RIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE'LL CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH, [1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER] [00:00:05] 2022 ORDER. WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY HERE COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND SHUTTERS HERE. NEXT WE'LL DO INVOCATION. WE'LL BE LED BY PETE VAN WARD. PLEASE RISE. JOIN ME IN PRAYER. PLEASE, LORD. THIS IS MORE THAN A PERFUNCTORY MOMENT WHERE WE PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. THIS IS A REAL MOMENT WHERE BEFORE WE UTTER ALL THAT IS ON OUR HEARTS, WE STOP FOR A MOMENT AND HONESTLY ASK WHAT'S ON YOURS? AND WE TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY SERIOUSLY. I KNOW THAT PRAYER IS OFTEN SEEN PRIMARILY AS THAT WHICH WE SAY TO YOU, BUT. WE HOPE YOU ALSO DO THINGS, AND WE HOPE THAT HEARTS ARE CHANGED AND MOVED BY YOU, OBJECTIVES ARE ACCOMPLISHED. AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THAT. THAT'S OUR JOB. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THIS TRADITION TO START THESE PROCEEDINGS WITH PRAYER, WHICH IS AN HONEST ACT OF HUMILITY. IT'S A CHANCE FOR US TO SAY WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW. SO MAY YOU GIVE US A FRESH PERSPECTIVE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. SPEAK TO US, EVEN IN THESE MOMENTS, LORD, GIVE US EARS TO HEAR A MIND THAT'S READY TO BE LED BY YOU AND THE COURAGE TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHAT WE CAME IN INTENDING TO DO. AND WE ASKED US IN YOUR POWERFUL NAME, AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE PLEDGE TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US UP TO CITY MANAGER COMMENTS. [5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS] MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS WITH YOU. WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT WE HAVE A INTERIM CITY SECRETARY THAT WILL BE SWORN IN MOMENTARILY. WE WELCOME ANGELA WALTON TO THE CITY OF HUTTO AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER. SHE COMES FROM CALIFORNIA, WHERE SHE SERVED AS A MUNICIPAL CLERK. SHE ALSO HAS A MASTER'S OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, AND WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO HAVE HER IN THIS ROLE AND LOOK FORWARD TO HER HELPING US TO DO EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING. JUST PERSONALLY. ALSO SAY THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AGAIN. THE COUNCIL BROKE HER BROKER BACK IN AGAIN WITH YOUR JANUARY 28TH AND 29TH STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS THAT WERE TWO DAYS, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR PARTICIPATING WITH THAT AND TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT AT YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WE WILL HAVE YOUR PILLARS, YOUR CORE VALUES AND EXPECTATIONS FOR YOU TO FORMALLY ADOPT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING THAT ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON THOSE ITEMS ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. ALSO, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WORKED VERY HARD FOR THIS COMMUNITY DURING THE ICE STORM, BOTH IN PREPARATION FOR IT AS WELL AS DURING THE EVENT ITSELF. PARTICULARLY WANT TO THANK POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS AND THE PARKS GROUPS WHO ARE OUT ON THE STREETS. THERE WAS A VERY GOOD COORDINATION FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION, VERY GOOD COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE CERTAINLY THANK THEM AND THE FIRE ESD. WE ALL WORKED IN COORDINATION AND THAT WENT EXTREMELY WELL. WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS SO THAT YOU GET WARNINGS DURING THOSE EVENTS TO SIGN UP WITH WARREN WARREN, CENTRAL TEXAS, AND IT SAID WARREN CENTRAL TEXAS DOT ORG AND YOU CAN RECEIVE EMERGENCY CALLS THAT WILL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE IN THE EVENT OF SUCH AN EMERGENCY. I LOOK FORWARD TO MY FIRST CELEBRATION OF WORLD HIPPO DAY. I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROCLAMATION ON IT. I HAVEN'T HAD THAT PRIVILEGE BEFORE, SO I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND I WILL TELL YOU YOUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR IS EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THE REACTION TO THE EXTENDED LIBRARY HOURS. WE WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC WHO HAS BEEN SO GRACIOUS TO COME OUT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE HOURS, AND SHE'S EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND MORE HOURS SERVING THE CITIZENS AND NOT HAVE TO CLOSE A LIBRARY DURING LUNCH BECAUSE OF SHORTAGE OF STAFF. SO THANK YOU, COUNSEL, AND THANK YOU PUBLIC FOR SUPPORTING THAT. AT THIS TIME, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME SWEARING INS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, SO I'LL [Additional Item] TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MR. MAYOR AND GEORGE LUCAS. GORDON. HE. [00:05:12] KIM, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE, RIGHT? OK. COULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME, I. DEBBIE HOLLAND. HI, DEBBIE HOLLAND. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE, FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE? SIX REPLACE SIX OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE UNITED STATES. AND OF THIS STATE. THIS STATE. SO HELP ME, GOD. GOD, CONGRATULATIONS. THE REAL THE PICTURE, OK? ARE YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND FOR ME, PLEASE REPEAT AFTER ME, I ANGELA WALTON. HI, ANGELA WALTON. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID THAT I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID. OFFERED. OFFERED PROMISE TO PAY. PROMISE TO PAY. CONTRIBUTED TO OR PROMISE TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR THING OF VALUE. OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT OR EMPLOYMENT FOR THE GIVING OR WITHHOLDING. ARE THEY VOTE OF A VOTE AT THE ELECTION AT WHICH I WAS ELECTED AT THE ELECTION, WHICH I WAS ELECTED OR AS A REWARD TO SECURE MY APPOINTMENT AND MY APPOINTMENT OR CONFIRMATION, WHICHEVER THE CASE MAY BE? SO HELP ME, GOD, SO HELP ME, GOD. ALL RIGHT. ONE OTHER ONE FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. I, ANGELA WALTON. HI, ANGELA. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE OFFICE OF CITY SECRETARY FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO, FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE. SO HELP ME, GOD. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S RIGHT. SUPPOSED TO READ IT FIRST. OKAY, OFFICIAL PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, FOR [6. PROCLAMATION] HIPPO DAY WHEREAS HIPPO DAY IS A GLOBAL CELEBRATION OF THE HIPPOPOTAMUS HELD ANNUALLY ON FEBRUARY 15TH, WHEREAS THE CELEBRATION HOLDS SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO AS THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES WITH THE HIPPO AS ITS MASCOT. AND WHEREAS A FEW THEORIES HAVE EMERGED OVER THE YEARS ON HOW THE HIPPO CAME TO REPRESENT HUTTO, THE MOST POPULAR OF WHICH INVOLVES A TRAIN. WHEREAS WHEN IN NINETEEN FIFTEEN, A CIRCUS TRAIN TRAVELING THROUGH TOWN STOPPED AT THE HUTTO DEPOT TO FEED AND WATER THE ANIMALS ON BOARD, A HIPPO SUPPOSEDLY ESCAPED ITS CAR [00:10:06] AND WANDERED INTO COTTONWOOD CREEK NEAR THE RAIL LINE. AND WHEREAS THE HIPPO SHOWED NO INCLINATION TO REMOVE ITSELF, SO RESIDENTS TRIED TO COAX THE RELUCTANT HIPPO FROM THE WATER. WHILE THE TELEGRAM WAS ISSUED TO THE EAST AND WEST OF HUTTO STATING STOP TRAINS, HIPPO LOOSE AND HUTTO AND WERE SOON AFTER THE TRAIN DEPARTED HUDL HIGH SCHOOL ADOPTED THE HIPPO AS ITS MASCOT. AND AS EARLY AS 1923, THE HIPPO APPEARED ON OFFICIAL GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND WHEREAS THERE ARE MORE THAN 3000 CONCRETE HIPPOS OF ALL SIZES ADORNING THE COMMUNITY AND COUNTLESS LOCAL SOURCES OF HIPPO SPIRIT WHERE SOUVENIRS AND DECOR AND WHEREAS THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BY EXTENSION, THE ENTIRE HUTTO COMMUNITY REFERS TO ITSELF PROUDLY AS HIPPO NATION. SO NOW, THEREFORE, I MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, ALONG WITH THE HUTTO CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 15TH AS WORLD HIPPO DAY IN HUTTO. OH, THAT'S AWESOME. OH, OH. OH, RIGHT, OK, JUST CAME IN RIGHT ON MY HANDS. OK. ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US UP TO CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS. [7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS] SEVEN ONE GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL MAYOR. I HAVE ONE. IT'S A PROJECT OR IT'S A CLEANUP EFFORT THAT I THINK IS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SO THE BLACK FAMILIES OF HUTTO HAS ARRANGED FOR THE JOURNAL OF TEXAS ARCHEOLOGY TO COME OUT TO THE SHILOH BLACK CEMETERY SOMETIME IN THE MONTH OF MARCH TO DO WHAT'S CALLED A MAGNUM SCHMITT MAGNETOMETER. AND YOU SAY THAT, BUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS LOCATE SOME UNMARKED GRAVES. THEY'VE GOT A ROUGHLY 150 GRAVES OUT THERE AND ONLY ABOUT A THIRD OF THEM ARE MARKED. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO USE THIS MAGNET MACHINE THAT'S GOING TO TRY TO DETECT WHATEVER'S UNDERNEATH THE GROUND. AND SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY NEED HELP IN CLEANING UP, GETTING EVERYTHING CLEARED RIGHT AWAY FROM THE LAND AND MARKING IT OUT AND MAKING SURE IT'S ALL READY FOR THAT. AND SO ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH, THEY'RE INVITING THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND HELP CLEAN UP. IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ALL AGES AND ALL YOU REALLY NEED IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOME CLOSE TOED SHOES AND SOME GLOVES. IF YOU'VE GOT SOME EQUIPMENT TO HELP CLEAR SOME SOME BUSHES AND BRUSHES OUT, YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. BUT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME. THIS PROJECT IS POSTED ON JUST SERVER ORG, AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO THERE. SIGN UP SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING AND BE EXPECTED, AND WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT. SO IF THIS IS DONE ON THE 19TH AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THAT GROUP TO COME OUT AND DO THAT SURVEY, SO ENCOURAGE, ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. THANK YOU. COMING OFF OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON JUST SAID THIS MONTH IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THE PASSING AWAY OF A OF A LOCAL LEGEND. MR. HAROLD CURLY JUST PASSED AWAY AND HE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE HIS VISITATION AND INTERMENT [00:15:06] AT THE SHILOH BLACK CEMETERY THIS WEEKEND, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS ALL BEEN INVITED TO PARTICIPATE. IT'LL BE IN TAYLOR AND THEN AT THE HUTTO CEMETERY AFTERWARDS THIS WEEKEND. BUT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A BIG, BIG PART OF THE HUTTO LEGEND AND AND JUST HIS FAMILY BEING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY DECADES. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE PUTTING TOGETHER. DIFFERENT EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH AS WELL AS OUR LIBRARY, SO I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THE COMMUNITY COMING OUT AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE LITERATURE ASKING QUESTIONS. JUST YESTERDAY, LEAD HUTTO HAD OUR SECOND CLASS AND IT WAS AT THE STEGMAN FARMHOUSE HISTORIC JACKMAN HOUSE HERE IN HUTTO AND OUR HISTORIAN MR., FORMER MAYOR MIKE FOWLER, ACTUALLY GAVE SOME TALKS ABOUT SOME OUR FIRST SETTLER THAT WE HAVE MR. ADAM MORGAN AND TALKED ABOUT JUST SOME OF THE UNFORTUNATE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN HUTTO. AND I THINK IT'S A POIGNANT TIME FOR US TO REFLECT ON HOW DOES HISTORY, ESPECIALLY THIS MONTH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO TALK MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THAT AT SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT'LL BE HELD LATER THIS PAST WEEK. THIS PAST WEEKEND WAS THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER'S SUPER BOWL. I KNOW A NUMBER OF COUNCIL WAS THERE LOTS OF MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY? IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. THERE WAS A FOURTH ANNUAL AND THEN THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER AND ALL OF THE COALITION OF ITS CALLED CIA COMMUNITY AND IMPACT. THEY ARE DOING A MARCH ON HUTTO EVENT FOR AMPLIFY A DAY OF GIVING, AND THAT'S ON MARCH 2ND. IT'S GOING TO BE AT STOCKADE KITCHEN, SO THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT ABOUT THAT. BUT YEAH, GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU. IN THE OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS. I DO HAVE ONE, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THANK STUFF FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND WHAT THEY ENDURED HERE IN CITY HALL, AS A NATION AND AS A CITY, WE WERE ALL IMPACTED BY COVID. SIGNIFICANTLY, IT WAS NOT A VERY FUN CHRISTMAS OR NEW YEAR'S PRESENT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO SAY IN CITY HALL, THERE WERE 41 CONFIRMED CASES. SO IF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE SERVICES THAT YOU WERE NEEDING OR LOOKING FOR, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT. AND I DO WANT TO APPLAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO STEPPED UP AND DID JOBS. MAYBE THEY WEREN'T HIRED TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'D LIKE TO THANK MS. FROM THE HUTTO FLOWER MARKET FOR THESE FIVE ARRANGEMENTS. THEY FEATURE THE ORANGE CRUSH DAY, LILY. AND THAT IS THE HUTTO FLOWER. AND SO WITH MRS. HELP, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF FURTHER THE NATIONAL HUTTO HIPPO DAY COMING UP. OK WITH THAT, WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS. ANY COUNTER REPORTS THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD HAD OUR MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, AND THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION DONE BY THE YMCA. SINCE 2017, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ON THE EXPANSION. AND SO THAT SAID TO ME FORMALLY COMING TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD IN MARCH AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO COUNCIL FOR FUNDING MECHANISMS, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER ENTITIES, ET CETERA. ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION, OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT JEFF WHITE HAS BEEN TAKING ALL OF SUGGESTIONS FROM ALL SEVEN OF THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, AND TONIGHT WE'LL BE HEARING THEIR REPORT TO US AS COUNCIL ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE NEXT STEPS FOR FINANCING ON PARKS, IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE. SO IT'LL BE PRETTY IN-DEPTH AND DETAILED, AND I HOPE YOU'LL ENJOY IT. AND THEN FINALLY, CAPE COD, SO THIS IS THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS. I'M ON CLEAN AIR COALITION. WE MET ON WEDNESDAY AND IT WAS AN ANNUAL REPORT OF OUR EMISSIONS FOR THE 10 COUNTY REGION THAT CAPE COD REPRESENTS. PARTICULATE MATTER 2.5. VERY DETAILED REPORTS, AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE CITY THAT I'VE PASSED ON TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR FOR US, AS WELL AS THE ISD COMING FROM CAPE COD. SO LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION COMING FROM THAT RELATIONSHIP. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, WE RECEIVED A RESIGNATION BY TRAVIS ALLEN FROM THE CAMP 40 PLAN, BUT ALSO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION COMMITTEE HE SERVED AS CHAIR. HE'S BEEN COMMITTED TO PRESERVING HUTTO HISTORY, AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS HE LEFT BEHIND THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION. [00:20:03] THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'VE GOT ONE THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE MET THIS PAST MONDAY, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT AND SO I WROTE IT ALL DOWN AND I DID A POST ON IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO THAT IT'D BE EASIER JUST TO READ WHAT I WROTE DOWN. SO I DON'T FORGET, INCLUDING ANYTHING. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN A STATEMENT ISSUED RECENTLY FROM UBIQUITI, AN INTERNET PROVIDER WHO WANTS TO INVEST IN A FIBER NETWORK THROUGHOUT HUTTO. THIS TIMING ALIGNS WELL WITH ONE OF THE 2022 GOALS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE, WHICH IS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT SERVICE OPERATIONAL OPTIONS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AND IDENTIFY THE NEEDS AND OR WANTS OF OUR CITIZENS. CITY STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN LOOKING INTO A BROADBAND INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY AND HAS IDENTIFIED SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND A PLAN, LEVERAGING PLANS FROM OTHER CITIES TO CREATE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP TO WORK ON THIS INITIATIVE. THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE MET ON MONDAY AND IS EXCITED TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO BRING TOGETHER A MULTISECTOR COMMUNITY TEAM, INCLUDING THE ESRD NEIGHBORHOOD WAS LOCAL BUSINESSES, CITY STAFF AND OTHERS TO COLLECT DATA AND INFORMATION AND IDENTIFY OUR NEEDS. THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF BROADBAND TO THE FOREFRONT, WITH MORE AND MORE STUDENTS AND PARENTS WORKING FROM HOME AND INCREASE IN TELEHEALTH VISITS. COMPLETING JOB APPLICATIONS AND CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS ONLINE, ETC. THIS INITIATIVE WILL ALSO HELP OUR COMMUNITY BETTER UNDERSTAND THE STATUS OF OUR CURRENT DATA INFRASTRUCTURE AND IDENTIFY WHAT ACCESS ISSUES OUR CITIZENS MAY HAVE. THIS ALSO COINCIDES WITH THE RECENT STATE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED TO CREATE A BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE TO ASSIST COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT TEXAS WAS ONLY ONE OF SIX STATES THAT DID NOT HAVE A STATEWIDE BROADBAND PLAN. I'M EXCITED FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE TO LEAD OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS BROADBAND INITIATIVE. SO PRETTY EXCITED THAT THERE. THIS IS ONE OF THE GOALS THE THREE GOALS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND THEY WANT TO WORK ON IT AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO WORK ON IT. AND SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME ABOUT. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING OUR CITIZENS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR. SO GREAT. THANK YOU. I WAS ASKED TO GIVE AN EDC UPDATE. THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN SAY, BUT I TRY TO ADDRESS WHAT I CAN FROM OUR LATEST MEETING. SO AS MANY KNOW, WE'VE HAD A REALIGNMENT OF OUR EDC OVER THE PAST PROBABLY NINE MONTHS WITH A FOCUS. WE HIRED BOB FARLEY. HE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. YOU HAVE A BOARD MADE UP OF PROFESSIONALS IN ALL DIFFERENT FIELDS, AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS WE HAVE ONE PROJECT NAMED PROJECT ACROPOLIS RECENTLY HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS BASED ON THAT DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S PROJECT D12 THAT WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON AS THAT ONE MOVES FORWARD. AND THEN THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION STARTED ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW THE EDC CAN LEVERAGE ITS ABILITIES WITHIN TEXAS TO HELP WITH POTENTIALLY OUR ROADS, BRIDGES AND SOME OF OUR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. THEY'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN A CITY CAN. SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE WITH A CONTINUED FOCUS OF THE EDC, MORE PROJECTS COMING AND ALSO MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES. SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE UNFORTUNATELY WAS EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER REPORTS? YES, I HAVE ONE FROM DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE A BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION FOR US TONIGHT. THEY UNFORTUNATELY, WERE UNABLE TO MEET BECAUSE OF QUORUM FOR COVID. THEY HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS OUT WITH COVID, SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR US AT OUR NEXT MEETING. IT DEFINITELY IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM AND FOR US AS A CITY TO HAVE THAT. THEY ARE JUST CONTINUING ON WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL TRAININGS AND THEN COMING TOGETHER AS A GROUP. THEY FOCUS ON UNCONSCIOUS BIAS AT THEIR LAST MEETING, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY AS WELL. FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION LIBRARY. SO IT WILL KIND OF BE MORE EVERY MONTH. USUALLY THERE'S A FOCUS, SO FOR FEBRUARY, BE BLACK HISTORY MONTH. SO THEY'LL KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE LITERATURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE HERE OR WITHIN OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO. AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY GET HERE FOR THE CITIZENS. AND THEN MONTH OF MARCH IS FOCUS ON WOMEN'S MONTH. SO JUST THEY'RE ON AND THEIR FOURTH. USUALLY THERE'S THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS THE MONTHS GO ON. SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH COLLEEN AND THE LIBRARY TO HAVE THAT COME TO FRUITION. WE HAVE ONE SPOT OPEN ON THAT DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMISSION. SO IF YOU OR YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING, THERE IS ONE SPOT OPEN. AND ALSO, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE ADA TASK FORCE KIND OF OFF THE GROUND. WE HAVE ONE MEMBER THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THAT TASK FORCE. I DO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR NORMAL COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS IN THAT IT'S A TASK FORCE. [00:25:02] SO IT'S NOT A THREE YEAR TERM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WILL EXPIRE AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM TO MEET. SO IF WE ONLY HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED, THE TASK FORCE CAN STILL MEET WITH JUST THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE AND IT CAN MEET VIA ZOOM. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN THIS ORGANIZED SETTING, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WITH DISABILITIES. SOMETIMES COMING OUT CAN BE REALLY CHALLENGING, SO ZOOM MEETINGS, PHONE CALLS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE ADA TASK FORCE. SO I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE SAID IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE A FOCUS ON. SO WE REALLY WANT TO PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY OR THE POSTING IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE AS WELL AS TO HOW YOU WERE TO APPLY TO BE ON THAT TASK FORCE. THANK YOU. AND JUST AS A NOTE IN OUR WE HAD AN AGENDA REVIEW MEETING FOR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IN ITEM SIX ONE IS ACTUALLY A PROCLAMATION ON BLACK HISTORY MONTH, O GRACIE FROM THE CITY OR FROM THE DNI. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. I KNOW THE DNI HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MEET QUORUM SO THEY CAN APPROVE IT OFFICIALLY. I THINK IT'D BE LIKE LAST YEAR WHERE WE'RE THERE. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S DOING IT. OK. ANY OTHER CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. [8. PUBLIC COMMENT] FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE IS BRIAN BYRD. IT ME. RYAN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND WERE YOU LET ME ASK THIS WHERE YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT OR YOU WANT TO TALK ON THE ITEM WITH TITAN? OK, SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO 30 SECONDS OR GO YELLOW AND THEN IT READ YOUR TIME IS UP. PERFECT. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, SORRY. MY NAME IS BRIAN BYRD. I WORKED FOR TITAN DEVELOPMENT AND AS MANY OF YOU JUST KNOW, WE HAVE INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK HERE NEAR INNOVATION BOULEVARD AND LOOP. AND AS TITAN FINISHES PHASE ONE OF THE PARK AND BEGINS PHASE TWO, WE ARE COMMITTED TO INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO ENERGY FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. WE BELIEVE THIS INCREASED COMMUNICATION WILL BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO AND DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE FOR THE CITY. TO THAT END, WE HAVE WE WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ATTEND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AT LEAST ONCE PER QUARTER TO PROVIDE A STATUS UPDATE ON THE INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF OUR COMMITMENT. LAST MONTH, WE MET WITH OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, THE EMORY FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE TO OPEN A DIALOG OF ADDRESSING, ADDRESSING CONCERNS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK. WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONDUCT THESE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN ON ANOTHER NOTE, PERSONALLY, I HAVE JOINED THE LEAD HUTTO THROUGH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CULTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE WAYS WE CAN PRESERVE THIS CITY'S PAST WHILE FORGING INTO THE FUTURE. HUTTO WAS GROWING, AND TITAN DEVELOPMENT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF PARTNERING WITH SMALL COMMUNITIES TO HELP THEM GROW THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE FOR THEM. CABLE CHOSE HUTTO TO RELOCATE ITS FAMILY RUN BUSINESS FROM CALIFORNIA TO THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS 050, AN INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION, DECIDED TO RELOCATE THEIR PLANT FROM DENMARK TO HUTTO. HUTTO HAS GAINED NOT ONLY NATIONAL INTERESTS, BUT INTERNATIONAL NOTORIETY FOR ITS FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. HIGHLY EDUCATED WORKFORCE AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BRING THEIR FAMILIES. THESE COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED INTO THE CITY OF HUTTO AND PLAN TO PROVIDE COMPETITIVE, GOOD PAYING JOBS SO THAT KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL TODAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY AND WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO. THESE COMPANIES HAVE ENGAGED TO STACY FOR EMPLOYEES, AND I KNOW THAT K-VILLE HAS ALREADY STARTED HIRING FOR STUDENTS TO BEGIN WORKING THIS YEAR. AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION TYPEKIT GOES, CABLE BUILDING IS SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE THIS JUNE. THE VIVO BUILDING WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION THIS MONTH AND COMPLETE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. BOTH BUSINESSES WILL BE OPERATIONAL THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND BRING MORE JOBS TO THIS COMMUNITY. TITAN IS CURRENTLY DESIGNING BUILDING SIX AT THE CORNER OF LIMMER LOOP AND INNOVATION BOULEVARD, WHICH WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR AND COMPLETE EARLY NEXT YEAR. THAT'S ALL YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, BRIAN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE JAMES WEAVER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS JAMES WEAVER, AND I DO LIVE IN HUTTO. WHEN I WAS ASSIGNED AS A FEDERAL OFFICER FOR THE FEDERAL SAVINGS AND LOAN INSURANCE CORPORATION IN DALLAS, ONE OF MY DUTIES WAS TO OVERSEE THE TRACKING OF LEGAL CASES THAT [00:30:02] AROSE FROM SAVINGS AND LOANS THAT WE CLOSED OR MERGED WITH SURVIVING INSTITUTIONS OVER AN EIGHT YEAR PERIOD. THESE LEGAL CASES NUMBERED IN THE THOUSANDS. DURING THE MOST RECENT COUNCIL MANDI MEETING, I GUESS IT WAS A SECOND ONE BACK. I FOUND A DISCUSSION ON THE DIAS PERTAINING TO THE PENDING LITIGATION. AMATEURISH AT MEDIUM AND IT WAS BORDERING ON JEOPARDIZING SOME OF THE CITY'S LEGAL STANDINGS. PARTIES PENDING TO LITIGATION SHOULD NOT BE IN CONTACT WITH ONE ANOTHER OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES OF A COURT. THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT OTHER LITIGANTS IN PUBLIC OR IN PRIVATE. THE COUNCIL CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT ATTEND SOCIAL FUNCTIONS THAT WILL BE PHOTOGRAPHED. WITH THE LITIGANTS WHO ARE HAVING OR HAVE BEEN DEPOSED IN THE CASE. THE CITY'S LITIGATION COUNSEL ADVISED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO AVOID CERTAIN DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF THINGS, ONE OF THOSE BEING ALLEGATIONS OF WITNESS TAMPERING, AS DISCUSSED BY THE JUDGE ON MARCH 9TH, 2021. TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT LINE OF DISCUSSION. DOTTIE WARNED SEVERAL TIMES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS WOULD SHOW DISRESPECT TO YOUR LITIGATION COUNCIL'S CONCERNS AND YOUR CORPORATE COUNSEL'S DIRECTIVES. THE CASE IN QUESTION IS UNIQUELY IMPORTANT AS IT MAY ACTUALLY GO TO THE SUPREME COURT. IT'S ALREADY IN APPEALS. I HAVE SEEN SLIP UPS THAT HAVE RESULTED IN MS. TRIALS AND EVEN ATTORNEYS BEING CUFFED AND PLACED IN HOLDING UNTIL OUR GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE BANK BOARD CAN GET THE PROPER PAPERWORK TOGETHER TO JUSTIFY TO THE JUDGE THAT THE OFFENDING ATTORNEYS HAD BEEN REPLACED. THIS WAS A FEDERAL JUDGE IN MIDLAND AND I APPEARED BEFORE HIM ON TWO SEPARATE CASES. PLEASE BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR COUNSELORS, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF. THEY OPERATE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY. IT DOES NO GOOD TO WORK AGAINST THEM AT BEST. IT IS A HINDRANCE FOR THE ATTORNEYS AND AT WORST IT JEOPARDIZES THE SUCCESS OF THE CASE. IS THAT THE RESULT YOU ALL ARE HOPING FOR WITH YOUR SOPHOMORIC ACTIONS? I HOPE NOT. THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, THAT BRINGS US TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL LIKE TO LOOK AT MOVING ITEM 11:08 TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOVING ITEM NINE THREE. OKAY, SO YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE NINE THREE TO OUT OF CONSENT, NINE THREE OUT OF CONSENT. AND WITH ITEM 11 EIGHT IN. RIGHT HERE, NO OBJECTIONS. WE'LL DO THAT, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT, ONE THAT WAS EMAILED IN THAT THEY SHOWED UP. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SO IF ROBERTO. WE'LL COME UP. GOOD EVENING, AMIR SNYDER, CITY MANAGER, TURNER AND HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M BOBBY VOSS, COMMANDER OF THE RICHARD ACKERMAN AMERICAN LEGION POST THREE OR TWO OF HUTTO. I'M NOT A MIND READER, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO ARE JUST NOW THINKING, I NEVER KNEW HUTTO HAD AN AMERICAN LEGION POST. THAT'S OK. WE STILL HEAR THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN CHARTERED IN CONGRESS. IN 1999, THE AMERICAN LEGION IS THE NATION'S LARGEST ORGANIZATION OF WARTIME VETERANS. POST 300 TO RECEIVE HIS CHARTER IN DECEMBER 2008 AND IS NAMED AFTER RICHARD ARLEN OMAN. RICHARD GREW UP ON A FARM NEAR WHAT IS NOW VETERAN'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. HE ATTENDED HER TO HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADUATING IN 1961 BEFORE GOING ON TO EARN HIS BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION FROM TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY. IN 1965, RICHARD WAS WORKING AS AN AG TEACHER IN FAYETTEVILLE WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED INTO THE U.S. ARMY IN THE FALL OF NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT. BARELY HALF A YEAR LATER, HE WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN SOUTH VIETNAM IN APRIL IN 1968, WHEN HIS BASE CAME UNDER SCRUTINY. APRIL 1969, WHEN HIS BASE CAMP CAME UNDER DIRECT ENEMY MORTAR FIRE, RICHARD WAS THE [00:35:05] BROTHER OF DAVID OMAN, WHO WE ALSO KNEW AND LOVED. AS READ ON OUR POST MODEL IS TO PROUDLY SERVE OUR VETERANS, THEIR FAMILY, THE HUTTO COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY, WHETHER WE'RE SPONSORING YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS HUTTO, YOUTH FOOTBALL AND CHEER BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS, PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS FOR HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR PARTNERING WITH OTHERS SUCH AS HUDDLES, FIRST RESPONDERS OR HUDDLES, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THE MEN AND WOMEN OF POST WERE TRAINED TO TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE SO THAT OTHERS MAY STRIVE AND EXCEL. MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT IS TWOFOLD. FIRST, WE INVITE EACH OF YOU TO SEE POST THREE OR TWO IN ACTION, SERVING OUR MILITARY FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY AS WE CARRY OUT OUR ONGOING MONTHLY SERVICE PROJECT, THE DUFFLE BAG INITIATIVE. THROUGH OUR DUFFEL BAG INITIATIVE, WE PROVIDE OUR VETERANS AND MILITARY FAMILIES WITH THE VARIETY OF MERCHANDISE SUCH AS PERIL SCHOOL SUPPLIES, HOUSEWARES, TOYS, PET FOOD, ETC. ALL FREE OF CHARGE. THROUGH OUR DUFFEL BAG INITIATIVE, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE OF OUR DUFFEL BAG INITIATIVE. NOT ONLY ARE WE SERVING OUR VETERANS AND MILITARY FAMILIES, BUT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO HELP OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THE SANDBOX AND MADELINE'S PLACE TO KEEP HUTTO BEAUTIFUL FOUNDATION, HUTTO ANIMAL CONTROL AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. HUTTO ISD HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL AIR FORCE JUNIOR ROTC PROGRAM HUTTO HIGH SCHOOLS ARE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND THEIR PROM COMMITTEE FARLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL CHEERLEADERS HOWARD NORMAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HENNINGSEN HIGH SCHOOLS, MARINE CORPS JUNIOR ROTC PROGRAM, HUDL LIVING CENTER. TAYLOR S-BASED, A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, D-TEXAS, TEXAS CHILDREN HOME, AUSTIN HOMELESS SHELTER, FORT HOOD, SANTA'S WORKSHOP AND ON AIR REALTY'S TOYS FOR TOTS CAMPAIGN AND TROOP PACKAGES. SECOND, WE HOPE TO BE CONSIDERED IN FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AFFORDED BY THE CITY'S GRANT PROGRAM SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO BETTER SERVE OUR VETERANS AND COMMUNITY. WE HOPE YOU'LL ACCEPT OUR INVITATION. OUR TEMPORARY FACILITY IS LOCATED AT SIX THREE SIX WEST FRONT STREET SUITE 11 HUNDRED, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EACH OF YOU THIS SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 13 FROM TWO TO THREE P.M. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SHARE OUR STORY. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO ALL OF YOUR ELDERS. OK, SO CONSENT. [9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS] WERE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT? THERE WAS A COUNCIL WANTED FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA NOW WILL BE ITEMS NINE ONE NINE TWO NINE FOUR NINE FIVE NINE SIX AND 11 EIGHT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER I'VE VILLARREAL SALVO APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED TO HAVE A SECOND SECOND CIRCULAR BY ISAAC COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY HOLLAND APOLOGIZE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HARRY NUNN, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON I. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON I. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO, MAYOR SNYDER I. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON I COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY I COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I FELL IN FAVOR. A MOTION PASS IS SEVEN ZERO. MAYOR, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO MOVE 11:05 UP EARLIER IN THE NIGHT. [11.5. Staff updates on park improvement projects. (Jeff White) ] OK. ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT FROM COUNSEL THAT WILL GO TO 11, FIVE STAFF UPDATES ON PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. JEFF, WELCOME BACK. IT'S THE FIRST TIME BACK, RIGHT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JEFF WHITE PARK SUPERINTENDENT GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A STAFF UPDATE REGARDING TO THE PARKS IMPROVEMENT. YOU WERE. LIVING THROUGH. YOU MRS.. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE PARKS BOARD, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON HELPING COMPILE THIS LIST. WE'VE BEEN WORKING SEVERAL MONTHS ON IT AND WE MET LAST NIGHT KIND OF DID ONE FINAL REVIEW TO PUSH FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO HERE PRESENT SOME OF THE ITEMS TO YOU TODAY. SO FIRST UP IS JUST SOME GENERAL OVERALL CONCERNS THAT HAPPENED AT MORE THAN ONE PARK. [00:40:03] AND THESE ARE UPDATE ON RESTROOMS AND RENOVATION OF THE RESTROOMS AND STAFF HAS INTERNALLY HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS ON KIND OF FILTERED THROUGH SOME OF OUR SELECTIONS OF OUR EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NINE MILLION DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAUCETS OUT THERE FOR COMMERCIAL RESTROOMS. SO WE'VE KIND OF DONE ALL THAT PROCESS. WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE ARE STARTING TO DRAFT AN RFQ TO GO OUT TO SEEK BIDS. AND SO WE SHOULD SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR RESTROOMS FAIRLY SOON. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A DATE BECAUSE THINGS COULD HAPPEN AND WE MAY NOT GET ANY BIDS AND IT COULD BE A DELAY. SO THE PARK BENCHES AND PICNIC TABLES ADDITION TO THOSE HAZARDS AND OR SAFETY CONCERNS TREES. OBVIOUSLY, WE ALWAYS NEED MORE TREES. BASKETBALL COURT AND T-BALL FIELD LIGHTINGS. WE'RE ACTUALLY WAITING ON A VENDOR FOR A QUOTE FROM A VENDOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR AREA, MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN WERE THE ANTS AND PESTICIDES UPDATING OUR SIGNAGE RELATED TO OUR ENTRANCE SIGNS AS WELL AS OUR PARK ROAD SIGNS, TRAIL SIDEWALKS REPAIRED. YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE THERE REMOVING ANY DEAD BRUSH OR TREES, MAKING SURE OUR PLACE GAPES HAVE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF MULCH OR ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER. SO WE MEET THE FALL FALL FALL ZONE MATERIALS. FALL ZONE SAFETY GUIDELINES SORRY, IT'S HARD TO SAY AND PERFORM ANY PAINTING, TRIMMING TREES AND CLEANING. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WE'LL GET INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. NEXT UP IS ADAM MOORE GAME PART. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE WERE THE FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE STEPS GOING TO THE CREEK, THE WHICH WE'VE GOT AN OPINION FROM A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT. SOME OF THE WOOD RAILING AT THE EXISTING THE OLD PAVILION OR PAVILION BE SOME OF THAT WOOD RAILING IS STARTING TO SPLINTER, REPURPOSE THOSE HUGE LIMESTONE BOULDERS THERE AND IN THE BRUSH PILE IN THE FAR NORTHWEST CORNER. WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUOTES OUT FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. NEXT UP IS CREEKSIDE PARK. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE WERE REMOVED. THE BRUSH PILES YOU CAN SEE THERE. OUR STAFF'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT ONE. THAT'S A FENCE PILE, AND THEY'VE KIND OF RELOCATED THAT NOW. WE JUST GOT TO DO SOME MORE WORK ON THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF PRETTY SOON. REPAINT THE HIPPO, THE PRACTICE FIELD REPAIRS CUT BAMBOO ALONG THE TRAIL AND THEN RENOVATION OR REMOVAL OF THE BIRDHOUSE, THE PURPLE MARTIN HOUSE THERE. HYDRAULIC PARK. SO THE PRIMARY CONCERNS HERE WERE THE OVERGROWN VEGETATION OF THE LAKE. WE WERE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE WILCO EXTENSION OFFICE TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A PLAN OF ACTION AND DEVELOPING. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET ON TO THE WATER AND CUT IT BACK. AND THEN THERE'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF ROUNDUP. YOU CAN APPLY TO DO THAT. BUT BEFORE WE HAVE TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO GET A STAFF CERTIFIED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPRAY THAT. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PROCESS, BUT WE'RE FEEL LIKE WE'RE A LOT FURTHER ALONG AND HAVE MORE ANSWERS THAN WE DID WHEN I STARTED. SO OVERALL, THE LAKE'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. WE JUST NEED TO DO SOME MAINTENANCE ON IT. YOU TELL ME IF THE LIGHTS WERE FIXED. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG SAFETY CONCERN AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS, YES, THEY'VE BEEN REPAIRED. THE SECOND AREA WAS A DESIGNATED WILDFLOWER SPACE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PARKS BOARD MENTIONED LAST NIGHT. WE REACHED OUT TO THE LADY BIRD JOHNSON WILDFLOWER CENTER TODAY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME GUIDANCE, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OPTION FOR US IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OVER THERE AND WE NEED TO GET THOSE REPLACED BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF JUST HAVING THOSE THERE AND NOT USING THEM. AND THEN EIGHT FOOT WIDE CONCRETE TRAIL, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL THAT WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT WE CALL DECOMPOSED GRANITE. THANKS TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WHO KIND OF CAME IN AND CUT A CHANNEL SO WE CAN KIND OF KEEP WATER OFF THIS TRAIL AND GO TO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A RIDGE OR A CHANNEL THAT GOES OVER THAT HUMP AND IT WASHES OUT THE GRANITE THERE. SO THEY CAME IN AND HELPED US CUT THAT TRENCH. AND SO WE THINK THE WATER WILL FLOW THROUGH THERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE THAT CATCHES A LOT OF WATER ON THAT. IS THIS BECAUSE THE SLOPE AND FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S COMING DOWN THERE, BUT WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET TO DO A TRAY, A CONCRETE SHELL FOR THAT AREA. SO WE HAVE ROUGHLY $95000. THAT WON'T COVER THE WHOLE PARK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET IN PHASES FOR THAT. NEXT IS FRITZ PARK, SOME OF THE MAIN QUESTION WAS THE STRUCTURE OF THE [00:45:09] PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, AND WE'VE GOT AN ENGINEER GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK AND I'M GOING TO PUT ON MY CHEATER'S AND READ THIS HERE, OK, BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE THE BRIDGE, WAS IT THE DECKING, WAS IT THE WHERE IT'S KIND OF PULLING AWAY HERE IN THE CENTER, WHERE MAYBE SOME SELLING OR SOME MOVING OF THE STONES? WAS IT THE THE STRUCTURAL TIES UNDERNEATH THE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE KIND OF BENT FROM WHERE KIDS HAVE HANGED ON THEM OR PEOPLE HAVE HANGED ON THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS? OR WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE ANY MAINTENANCE ON THAT BRIDGE, PROBABLY SINCE PUT IN. SO THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS. AND ONCE AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE WITH HUTTO LAKE PARK, WE'RE WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING A FORMAL REPORT FOR US. BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE THAT MAINTENANCE THAT IS RECOMMENDED IS MOST NOTABLY THE TIMBER DECK REPAIR. SO THAT'S THE DECKING ON THE BRIDGE. SOME OF THAT'S FAILING. IT'S SAFE RIGHT NOW FOR PEDESTRIAN. IT'S NOT SAFE FOR VEHICULAR TRAVEL. WE DON'T ALLOW VEHICLES ON IT, BUT THIS IS SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS RIGHT NOW. THE BRACING UNDERNEATH IS FINE. THAT IS JUST TO HELP CARRY THE LOAD. SO THERE'S EVEN THOUGH IT'S BENT, IT'S OK. THE EMBANKMENTS AND RETAINING WALLS WERE OBSERVED TO EXHIBIT SOME SETTLEMENT AND SOME ROTATIONAL DISTRESS. WHILE IT'S NOT URGENT, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE THE OUTLINE, OF COURSE, OF REPAIRS FOR THE MAINTENANCE. SO THERE ARE LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSED A BIT LAST YEAR AND JUST HAVING UNKNOWNS RELATED TO IT. NOW WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PLAN GOING FORWARD. SO WE'RE NOT AS BAD SHAPE AS WE THOUGHT WE WERE. NEXT UP IS THE POND PAVILION OPTION. OUR STAFF IS GOING TO CLEAN THAT OUT. WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A LONG TERM PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THERE, PREVENT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN AT THAT PARK. WE NEED TO ADD MORE BOLLARDS OR ROCKS TO BLOCK IT, JUST SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE ESTHETICS OF THE PARK, BUT STILL CAN DO THAT. THAT TASK, THE NEXT ONE, IS THE STANDING WATER IN THE PAVILION. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN I WAS PREVIOUSLY HERE. ONE OF THEM WAS ADDING NEW SAFETY SURFACING ON TOP OF THAT, SO ROLLING BACK UP. SO WHEN IT RAINS OR ANY TYPE OF DRIZZLE THEIR STANDING WATER IN THE PAVILION WHEN IT WAS DONE, IT JUST WASN'T SLOPED RIGHT? SO THE WATER DIDN'T RUN OFF AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS PROBLEM. SO THE TWO PROBLEMS, TWO SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS ONE IS ADD A NEW SAFETY SURFACE SURFACING ON TOP AND KIND OF DEGRADED IT. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST ENCLOSE IT IN. AND SO WE LOOKED AT A SAFETY SURFACING MATERIAL. THIS WAS 2019. IT WAS GOING TO COST RIGHT AROUND 75. $80000 WAS BALLPARK. I SAID, WELL, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? IN CLOSING, HE GOES ABOUT THE SAME. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT ADDRESSING THAT. WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE 75 OR $80000 MANDI, SO WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT OUR. SHORT TERM ANSWER IS, IS OUR STAFF GOES OUT THERE AND USES BACKPACK MOTORS TO BLOW IT OFF, AND SO IT'S NOT A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT THAT'S TIME AWAY FROM DOING OTHER THINGS. NEXT UP IS HUTTO COMMUNITY PARK. SOME OF THE CONCERNS HERE AND REPAINT THE PAVILION. A NEW RESTROOM, WHICH WE'VE GOT TO IDENTIFY A SEWER LINE WHERE THAT COULD BE. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR WATER DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ONE, BUT IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF PARK AND IT'S 15 FEET DOWN. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAYBE LOOK AT A DIFFERENT ONE. ADDING A PET WASTE STATION, SOME CONCRETE BASES UNDER THE BENCH, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE PICTURE THERE, THE BENCHES THERE, THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS LIKE TO PLAY THERE WHEN IT RAINS, KIND OF WATER COLLECTS CONCRETE THAT IT KIND OF KEEP THE MUD OFF THE COURT AND THEN A WATER FOUNTAIN NEAR THE PLACE, WHICH ACTUALLY COULD BE INCORPORATED WITH THE NEW RESTROOM. LASTLY, IS MAJOR FIELDS HERE IS TO OUR BLUEFIELD NEEDS 70 FOOT BASES TO TO BE ABLE TO LET THE 12 AND UNDER KIDS PLAY THERE INSTEAD OF TAKING UP THAT SPACE AT HOLMSTRÖM. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO KIND OF CUT SOME OF THE GRASS BACK, REWORK SOME OF THE IRRIGATION, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVER SPRAYING THE IRRIGATION AND WE HAVE STANDING WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO IT INTERNALLY OR HAVE TO BID THAT OUT GATES FOR OUR T-BALL FIELDS. THIS IS REQUESTED BY WBSC JUST TO HELP CONTROL WHO USES THOSE FIELDS. FINISH THE CONCESSION STAND AND WHAT I MEAN BY FINISH. IT IS KIND OF JUST ADD SOME THINGS TO BRING IT UP TO CODE. SO WE HAVE WE NEED TO ADD SOME COVE BASED, SOME FLOORING, SOME CEILING FANS, PROPER [00:50:06] HAND-WASHING, SINK THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND THEN THE RESTROOM PRIVACY FENCE. THIS IS SERVES TWO FOLD PURPOSE. WE HAVE AN HVAC OR SORRY, A MINI SPLIT SYSTEM IN THERE AND WE HAVE THE CONTROLLER ON THE SIDE AND IT IS A NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WHERE WE BLOCK THAT OFF, WHERE PEOPLE COULDN'T POSSIBLY RUN INTO THAT. AND SO ALSO, IT'S SO WHEN THE DOORS OPEN UP FOR THE RESTROOM, YOU HAVE DEFENSE BLOCKS, THE VISIBILITY TO THAT. AND LASTLY IS TO REPAIR OR REPLACE ANY DAMAGED NETTING. WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE VENDOR WHO SENT US A BUNCH OF EXTRA SCRAPS TO REPLACE THAT. SO IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS AN EXCELLENT NOT TIRE AND HAS SOME FREE TIME, WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO TAKE THEM UP ON TESTING THEIR SKILLS THAT REPLACING THE NETTING BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50 DIFFERENT BREAKS IN THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PAINSTAKING CHORE. SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE FUNDED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITH RESTAURANT RENOVATIONS IS $500000 IN THE PARK MAN DEVELOPMENT FUND, THE MEGA PROJECTS, THE PRIVACY FENCE CONCESSION STAND, THE BILL GATES. WE THINK WE CAN COVER THAT AMOUNT IN OUR PARKS GROUND MAINTENANCE FUND. IT'S GOING TO BE A RIDE AROUND. IT SHOULD BE UNDER $3000 AND THEN THE HUTTO. BLAKE TRAILS THE CONCRETE IS IN 95000 IN THE STREETS, CAPITAL OUTLAY FOR SIDEWALKS AND THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. WE HAVE $20000 IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, JEFF. I DO HAVE ONE. NICE TO SEE YOU HERE. THANK YOU. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AT HUTTO LAKE PARK THAT THERE WAS A ROUNDUP SPRAY THAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE OR YOU GOT THE CERTIFICATION FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. IS THERE ANY IMPLICATIONS TO THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE WILDLIFE THERE IN THE FISH? GREAT QUESTION. THAT WAS WHAT WE DID. IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS WE ASKED OUR EXTENSION OFFICE GURU. AND NO, IT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR WATER BASED APPLICATION. IT ACTUALLY ADHERES TO THE SOIL INTO THE IN THE WATER, AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE WILDLIFE. IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY A CHILD THAT COME UP AND ACTUALLY PUTS IT IN THEIR MOUTH. SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WOULD BUY AT A BIG BOX STORE, RIGHT? I'M SURE PEOPLE WOULDN'T MIND IF THE WATER MOCCASINS WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF THAT EXCAVATION. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M JEFF, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. IS THE FIRST ONE IS HAVE YOU ALL DISCUSSED INTERNALLY ON THE STAFF SIDE WHEN YOU ALL MIGHT START, INCLUDING THE DURANGO FARMS PARK THAT WE'VE ADOPTED RECENTLY INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK WE HAVE? WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS WE NEED TO GET ANSWERED. OK. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IF POSSIBLE, FOR THE MARCH MEETING TO FOR THE PARKS BOARD AND THEN MAYBE FOR COUNCIL WOULD BE JUST TO HEAR WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR MAINTENANCE SINCE WE'VE TAKEN THAT OVER. I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON HAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE. AND AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR STACY ON THE COMMUNICATION TEAM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN PARKS UPDATES AND OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE ALL WELCOME TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE SIMILARLY TO HOW WE HAVE A CP UPDATES ON THE WEBSITE TO DO A DROP AFTER COUNCIL MEETINGS OR AFTER THERE'S A PARK UPDATE ON ALL THESE PROJECTS? SOME ARE ON THE WEBSITE. OK, THAT WAY WE CAN DIRECT THE PUBLIC TO CHECK THERE FOR UPDATES. YEAH. OK. AND THEN MY SORRY LAST THING WAS YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS LAST NIGHT, AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAYBE GIVE A HEADS UP TO THE COUNCIL OF IT LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS COMING OUR WAY OVER THE YEAR WITH JUST THE SCOPE OF MAINTENANCE WITH WHAT'S COME TO US FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD. CAN YOU MAYBE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT FOR ALL OF US? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO COUNT WHEN THINGS BREAK, AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T NECESSARILY PLAN FOR THAT IN OUR BUDGETS, AND SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND AND DO THOSE. I DON'T WANNA GET INTO SPECIFICS, YOU KNOW, LET ANGIE TAKE CARE OF OF THOSE. BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE I THINK THE ONE WE MENTIONED LAST NIGHT WAS THE FOUNTAIN AT THE AMPHITHEATER. WE NEED TO GET FIXED AND THAT IS GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE THAT WE PROBABLY CAN'T COVER IN OUR ALLOTTED IN OUR BUDGET. SO WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? JUST ONE COMMENT ON THE PARK THAT CAME FROM DURANGO. I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PARKS BOARD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT BECAUSE OF WHERE THAT PARK IS AND THE WAY THAT CAME ABOUT, I THINK [00:55:01] IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE OLD TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY ON THAT AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SOME, SOME INPUT INTO THAT. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A COUNCIL MEETING, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS AGO WHERE THE PARKS BROUGHT KIND OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS OR THINK THERE'S OPTIONS A, B AND C, AND THEN WE KIND OF ALL TRIED TO DISCUSS WHAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO FIX AND WHAT POSSIBLE COST ASSOCIATIONS ARE THAT GO ALONG WITH THOSE. THE ONES THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED HERE IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOURSELF AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARKS BOARD HAVE COME UP WITH? YEAH, SO GREAT QUESTION. AT OUR MEETING LAST NIGHT, WE KIND OF TAKE IT EVERYTHING THEY PUT TOGETHER AND HAD IT DIVIDED UP INTO TWO SECTIONS. ONE WAS RENOVATIONS AND ONE WAS ADDITIONS. SO KIND OF BREAK IT OUT THAT FORMAT AND WE WENT OVER KIND OF EVERY ONE OF THEM, EVERY PARK, JUST LIKE WE DID HERE. IT WAS MORE IN DETAIL, BUT WE WENT OVER EVERY ONE OF THOSE AND ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AND WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY. AND THAT'S THE KIND OF LIST THAT WE'RE GOING WITH NOW. WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO INTERNALLY, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE TO TO OUTSOURCE AND WHAT THOSE ARE. AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF COME BACK TO THE PARKS BOARD AND SAY, OK TO ADD THE SCOREBOARDS AT MEGA FIELD'S GOING TO COST US FIFTEEN THOUSAND OVER FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE CAN PLANT A WILDFLOWER AREA AT HUTTO LAKE PARK, YOU KNOW, VERY EXPANSIVE ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THEY THEY'LL DEFINITELY HAVE. LET'S SAY WHERE WE KIND OF SPEND THAT MONEY AND ALLOCATE IT. I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK BECAUSE I KNOW WE LOST OUT ON QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING THE LAST YEAR. I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF BIG GRANTS THAT WE KIND OF MISSED OUT ON. SO HOPEFULLY WITH HAVING YOU BACK ON BOARD THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND POSSIBLE OTHER FUNDING OUT THERE VERSUS NECESSARILY FROM JUST THE BOTTOM DOLLAR. AND I'M SURE ANGIE WOULD BE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT, TOO. SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, PART PART OF YOUR QUESTION LAST TIME WE CAME BEFORE YOU WAS FOR PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT MONEY TO RELEASE MONEY FOR THINGS THAT WE HAD DETERMINED TO BE NOT A NICE TO HAVE, BUT A NEED TO HAVE. SO RESTROOMS WAS NO. ONE ON THE LIST, AND THE SECOND THING THAT WAS ON THE LIST WAS SAFETY CONCERNS. SO SIDEWALK REPAIR, TRAIL REPAIR, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT NEED TO BE DONE. WE ALSO DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT HOW A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE IDENTIFIED BACK ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE SIX MONTHS AGO IS ACTUALLY MAINTENANCE AND AS MAINTENANCE SHOULD COME OUT OF THE PARKS BUDGET, BUT NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF DEVELOPMENT MONEY. WHAT SHOULD COME OUT OF DEVELOPMENT? MONEY IS A NEW STUFF, SO LIGHTS ON BASKETBALL COURTS HAVE NEVER HAD LIGHTS ON BASKETBALL COURTS BEFORE, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO FOR NEW. WE'VE NEVER HAD A RESTROOM AT COMMUNITY LAKE, BUT HUTTO COMMUNITY PARK, THAT'S NEW. THAT'S MONEY THAT WE SHOULD USE FROM THE PARK. PARK DEVELOPMENT MONEY THAT WE GET AND THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED BY JEFF TONIGHT IS PRETTY MUCH THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TO AT LEAST TRY TO START CLEANING IT UP. GOTCHA. YOU KNOW, WE KNEW WE NEED TO MAKE THE PARKS. WE NEED TO MAKE THE PARKS LOOK PRESENTABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT PAY FOR THEM. YEAH. YES, SIR. BECAUSE I JUST GOT ONE ONE OVERALL COMMENT. I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED I WAS HERE LAST NIGHT. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE INTERACTION WITH THE PARKS BOARD. HOW CONNECTED YOU SAID JEFF. THEY WENT ITEM BY ITEM, ALMOST LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL, WENT TO THE BUDGET AND TALKED ABOUT EVERY ISSUE. EVERY PARK'S GOT ITS OWN PARKS BOARD MEMBER. AND SO WHAT WOULD BE GREAT WHEN YOU GUYS COME UP FOR THE THE BUDGE AMENDMENT, ALMOST LIKE A PRIORITIZATION OF THINGS TO WEAR? JUST IN CASE WE CAN'T FUND EVERYTHING, WE CAN ALSO KNOW FROM A ONCE LIST WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, LIGHTS ON A BASKETBALL COURT OR BATTING CAGES AND ALL THAT. AND I THINK AS WE KIND OF PULL OUT OF THE RUT AND START A PLAN ALMOST LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR ROADS AND SIDEWALKS, WE CAN. BE NICE TO HAVE LIKE A LONG LIST TO EACH YEAR INSTEAD OF US GOING OVER EACH PROJECT, WE COULD JUST ALLOCATE MONEY TO THE PARKS BUDGET AND THEN IT CAN GO AND JUST START KNOCKING OFF THE NEXT PROJECTS IN LINE, AND EACH YEAR WE CAN JUST REPRIORITIZE THEM. BUT OVERALL IMPRESSED. YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING, HAD PICTURES IN A DISCUSSION, SO IT WASN'T ANY KIND OF WILLY NILLY. JUST SPEND MONEY OR NOT DO SOMETHING. SO APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS JUST WORK. THANK YOU. JEFF, I JUST HAD ONE QUICK THING, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING CHRISTIE CAN HELP OUT WITH. HUTTO LEGACY CHURCHES GOT AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS THAT I THINK THEY MIGHT BE TALENTED AND NOT NOT TIME. AND IF NOT, THEY MIGHT. THEY BE PROBABLY HAPPY TO LEARN, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A FUN PROJECT FOR THE JURY TO HELP. ABSOLUTELY. [01:00:02] COOL. ALL RIGHT, THANKS, JEFF. THANK YOU. IT'S OK WITH THE COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 11:09 UP. [11.9. Consideration and possible action on presentations by outside agencies not receiving funding in the Annual Budget for Fiscal Year 2021/2022. (Councilmember Villareal Salvo, Councilmember Gordon). ] WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING ITEM 11:09 NO OBJECTIONS. MOVE ON TO ITEM 11 NINE. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PRESENTATIONS BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES NOT RECEIVING FUNDING IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR. 2021 2022. AND SINCE WE HAVE. SOME PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK WELL, LET THEM SPEAK FIRST. FIRST, WE HAVE BOBBY VASQUEZ, I'M SORRY, MY SEEING YOUR NAME RIGHT, BOBBY? OK. DO I GET TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? SORRY, SINCE I PRESENTED IT. YES, I'LL JUST LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK FIRST. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, THE AMERICAN LEGION POST, THAT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS IS WITH REGARDS TO REQUIREMENTS AND TIMELINES SO THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET YOUR SUPPORT IN HELPING US MEET OUR NEEDS AS WELL. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO MEET EVERYBODY'S NEEDS, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP US MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, OR MAYBE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT BE IN THE SAME POSITION WE ARE THAT WE DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS FOR APPLYING AND WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE THAT MIGHT BE. MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR US. I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, OK, WHERE IS IT? AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ON OUR BEHALF, THAT WAS A DIFFICULTY WE HAD AND GOING BACK AND MAKING SURE WE HAD EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OK. NEXT, WE HAVE JAMES WEAVER. MINE'S GOING TO BE REAL SHORT TODAY. I PERSONALLY DO NOT AGREE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING AND SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON OUTSIDE AGENCIES SUCH AS NONPROFITS. AND BELIEVE ME, I HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH NONPROFITS FOR YEARS. I RAN ONE UP IN NORTHERN TEXAS FOR NINE YEARS AND IT WAS A HOUSING AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER. I NEVER WENT TO THE CITY FOR ANY MONEY. THERE'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS FOUNDATIONS THROUGHOUT THIS STATE WHERE YOU CAN GET FUNDING. IT'S A LITTLE MORE WORK. YES. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PREPARE A SUBMISSION AND THAT SUBMISSION WILL BE LOOKED AT BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. BUT USUALLY. YOU DO HAVE A REVIEW PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WILL TREAT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING FUNDING. ON THE SAME BASIS, I'M NOT SURE THAT CAN BE DONE HERE. MAYBE IT CAN. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE FOR A WHILE, WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH PERSONNEL AND ALSO FINANCIAL ISSUES. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT EQUITABLY. WE MAYBE CAN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A POINT THAT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE HANDLED THROUGH OTHER WAYS OF FUNDING AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH FOUNDATIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. HOWEVER, IF YOU DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THIS, I THINK THE AMERICAN LEGION WOULD DEFINITELY BE A VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR FUNDING. THANK YOU. THANKS, SIR. NEXT, WE HAVE RICK HUDSON. AND SPEAK AFTER. SURE. OK. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO WAS YOUR ITEM. THANK YOU. SO OVER THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, JUST COUNCIL. SO TO BRIEF YOU ALL ON EVERYTHING OR HOW THIS CAME UP TO US AGAIN, WE HAD THIS ON OUR AGENDA BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, AND WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AS WAS DIRECTED TO US AND WAS PRESENTED TO US ON THE DAIS. AND OVER THE HOLIDAYS I WAS REACHED OUT TO BY ONE OF THE NONPROFITS THAT WE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION EARLY ON IN THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING PROCESS, WITH A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM ONE, JUST HOW THE COMMUNICATION WAS FROM THE CITY TO THEM, HOW IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN HOW IT'D BEEN DONE IN PAST YEARS AND THE PROCESS SEEMINGLY HAD CHANGED. AND THEN WHAT WAS SAID ON THE DIAS IN REGARDS TO THEIR FOUNDATION WAS NOT FACTUAL [01:05:05] INFORMATION, AND THERE IS CONCERN OF THAT. THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF THE NONPROFITS OR AGENCIES THAT WERE SEEKING FUNDING HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND DO AN OPEN Q&A WITH US. I CAME BACK TO STAFF AFTER THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AND I ASKED THEM HISTORICALLY, HOW HAS THIS PROCESS GONE EVERY YEAR WITH COUNCIL? I WASN'T ON COUNCIL FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR, SO I DIDN'T KNOW. I DO REMEMBER BEING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THOSE PRESENTATIONS, AND IT WAS DIRECTED TO STAFF THAT COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SIT AND LISTEN TO PRESENTATIONS, AND THIS WAS DIRECTED TO STAFF BY THE MAYOR AND THE THEN FORMER CITY MANAGER. AND SO THEY WERE TOLD TO GIVE US A LIST OF AGENCIES TO CONSIDER, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE LIST THAT WE RECEIVED IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US WAS. SELECTED INFORMATION, SO AFTER SITTING DOWN AND MEETING WITH ONE OF THE FOUNDATIONS THAT DIDN'T DIDN'T GET CONSIDERED, I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD COME TALK TO STAFF AND SEE IF WE COULD IF THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR US TO EVEN RECONSIDER AT THIS TIME. AND SINCE WE HAD MOVED SO MANY THINGS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS DOWN INTO THE GENERAL FUND, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST DESERVING OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR UP ANY MISINFORMATION THAT I KNOW. I SAID SOME THINGS UP HERE ON THE DICE THAT I WAS MISINFORMED ON WITH THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION, WITH HOW THEY USE THEIR FINANCING FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN IN DETAIL TO US THE SITUATION AND AND WHAT THEY DO WITH THE DOLLARS FOR THE COMMUNITY. IF THEY'RE IF WE'RE NOT WANTING TO FUND OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A BODY WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO MAKE. BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE CUTTING FUNDING OFF IMMEDIATELY WITH NO CONVERSATION TO THESE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE BEEN RELYING ON US FOR ALMOST A DECADE, LIKE SOME OF THEM. AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME DECENCY AND RESPECT DESERVE TO THOSE THAT HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM US IN THE PAST AND AN OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT FOR THEM TO AT LEAST MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE DIRECTLY. AND AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION GOING FROM THERE. BUT THAT'S JUST HOW THIS ALL CAME ABOUT, AND ANYBODY COULD HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS WHEN THEY SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA, LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. BUT I KNOW WE HAVE CLAUDIA HERE, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE RECONSIDERED. ALL RIGHT. GORDON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL KRYSTAL ROEBUCK, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND PROGRAMS MANAGER SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO WAS MENTIONING, WE WERE DIRECTED TO REACH BACK OUT TO THE FOUR APPLICANTS THAT DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDING. AND OUT OF THOSE FOUR, WE DID RECEIVE TWO THAT RESPONDED TO THE REQUEST IN A VERY, VERY TIMELY MANNER. AND SO TONIGHT WE DO HAVE THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION HERE AND WE ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WILLIAMSON AND BURNING COUNTIES. BOTH EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ARE HERE AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE FOR HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION AS WELL. SO FIRST STEP, WE DO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION, CLAUDIA CARDWELL. THEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR SNYDER, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIRST OFF, ENJOY A HIPPO'S RUN THE WORLD STICKER FROM THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION. WHAT A TIMELY NIGHT TO BE HERE WITH THE PROCLAMATION. SO I AM CLAUDIA CARDWELL, THE DIRECTOR OF THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION. I THINK I'VE MET MOST OF YOU OUTSIDE OF HERE. IF NOT, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY AND INTRODUCING YOU TO OUR THRIVING, AWESOME ORGANIZATION. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND INSIGHT INTO THE MISCOMMUNICATION SURROUNDING OUR ORGANIZATION AND ALSO TO RESUBMIT THE 2020 GRANT REQUEST FOR POSSIBLE RECONSIDERATION. I WANT TO START BY THANKING COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO WE FOR LISTENING WHEN WE INITIALLY REACHED OUT TO HER ABOUT THE ISSUE. WE WENT TO HER BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION ON THE DAIS RELATED TO US WAS INITIATED BY HER. SHE WAS OPEN TO HEARING OUR STORY AND QUICK TO TAKE ACTION TO HELP REMEDY THE SITUATION. SO THIS GOES BACK TO AUGUST, SEPTEMBER 2020. LIZZIE SAMPLE'S WAS THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME. I WAS ONE WEEK OUT FROM STARTING AS THE DIRECTOR, SO I CAME TO WATCH HER PRESENTATION HERE AT CITY HALL. LIZZIE PRESENTED TWO GRANTS AT THE TIME. ONE WAS TEACHER AND FACULTY, WHICH IS A GRANT REQUEST TO SUPPORT INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS FOR TEACHER AND FACULTY, AND HUTTO ISD AND ONE WAS A BUILDING GROWTH GRANT, WHICH WAS AN [01:10:03] ADMINISTRATIVE REQUEST TO SUPPLEMENT THE DIRECTOR'S FULL TIME SALARY. AT THE TIME, IT WAS PART TIME. I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH DOING AN ADMINISTRATIVE GRANT REQUEST, BUT IT WAS DONE AT THE TIME, SO THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE. CONVERSATION ON THE DAIS DURING THE GRANT SELECTION PROCESS LEAN TOWARDS FUNDING TEACHER AND FACULTY PROGRAMING GRANT REQUESTS, BUT IT WAS CLEARLY DOCUMENTED AND COMMUNICATIONS TO ME THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE TO FUND BUILDING GROWTH GRANT. OUR BOARD. I WAS SURPRISED AND OUR BOARD AND EXECUTIVE TEAM WAS VERY SURPRISED WHEN I SHARED THE NEWS WITH THEM. WE WERE SURPRISED THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE GRANT HAD BEEN CHOSEN OVER THE PROGRAMING GRANT. THE ADMINISTRATIVE GRANT WAS JUST PITCHED FOR. IF YOU WANTED TO FUND BOTH GREAT, IF NOT PROGRAMING WAS KIND OF A NO BRAINER. WE WERE SURPRISED BECAUSE THE TEACHER AND FACULTY PROGRAMING GRANT HAD BEEN FUNDED FOR FOUR YEARS, STATE FOUR YEARS STRAIGHT PRIOR TO THAT. SO WE REACHED OUT TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS AND TO CLARIFY THE DIRECTIVE WE HAD BEEN GIVEN. SO I SENT AN EMAIL TO MY CONTACT ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2020 THAT SAID THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF HUTTO FOR THEIR ONGOING SUPPORT. CAN YOU PROVIDE MORE INSIGHT AS TO THE COUNCIL'S DECISION ON FUNDING THE BUILDING GROWTH GRANT AND NOT THE TEACHER AND FACULTY REQUEST? I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH THE BOARD. ALSO, WHAT ARE THE STEPS WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE TO DIVIDE THE APPROVED FUNDING AND ALLOCATE SOME OF THE FUNDS TO THE PROGRAMING REQUEST BEING NEW TO THE PROCESS? I'D LOVE INSIGHT AND ASSISTANCE. MY CONTACT WAS QUICK TO RESPOND. SHE SENT ME THE LINK SO THAT I COULD WATCH THE DISCUSSION ON THE DAIS. SHE SAID I ALSO ASKED ABOUT ALLOCATING FUNDS TOWARD THE PROGRAMING GRANT, PER OUR INTERIM CFO. THIS WOULD NOT BE PERMISSIBLE AS FUNDS CAN'T BE DIVIDED BECAUSE COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY APPROVED THE BUILDING FOR GROWTH GRANT RAISING FUNDS TO OPERATE SO YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FUND FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROGRAM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE PROCEEDED TO USE THE GRANT AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE BUILDING GROWTH GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $25000. OUR REPORTING WAS TIMELY AND COMPLETE EACH QUARTER. WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES TO OUR SUBMISSIONS FOR REQUESTS FOR CLARIFICATION, ADDITIONAL REPORTING OR CONCERNS WITH THE INFORMATION PRESENTED. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION HAS STAYED EXACTLY IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY OF HUTTO PROVIDED FUNDS FOR. WE MADE AN EFFORT TO REMEDY THE SITUATION TO NO AVAIL. WE PUT THE CITY'S FUNDING TO GREAT USE AND MADE THIS POSITION FULL TIME, AS STATED IN THE GRANT REQUEST. HAVING ME AS A FULL TIME DIRECTOR HAS OPENED SO MANY DOORS FOR OUR FUNDRAISING EFFORTS AND PROGRAMING SUCCESSES. IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE GRANTS AWARDED SURPASSED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, ALMOST A 10 PERCENT INCREASE EVEN DURING A PANDEMIC. THIS IS GREATLY IN PART TO THIS POSITION BEING FULL TIME AND TO MY ABILITY TO DEDICATE MORE TIME TO RELATIONSHIP BUILDING. THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY WILL ALLOW OUR OUTREACH TO EXTEND EVEN FURTHER IN ESTABLISHING ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION WITH CORPORATE PARTNERS, FAMILY, FRIENDS AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS MISCOMMUNICATION AND CONFUSION. MORE SO WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR THE AIR BECAUSE THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND THE CITY OF HUTTO IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO US NOW. NOW, MORE THAN EVER, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS ITS VILLAGE TO RALLY AROUND THEM, UNITED IN SUPPORT OF EDUCATION AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS. PARTNERING WITH THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION MEANS PROVIDING INSPIRED AND ENHANCED EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN A VERY CHALLENGING TIME TO TEACHERS AND STUDENTS WHO WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THE FIBER IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A GREAT HISTORY OF PARTNERING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE CLASSROOM FOR PROGRAMS THAT GO FAR BEYOND FAR BEYOND WHAT IS COVERED BY TRADITIONAL TAX DOLLARS. IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, OUR PARTNERSHIP BEGAN AND WE RECEIVED A GRANT FOR $2500 FROM THE CITY OF HUTTO. TWENTY EIGHTEEN FIVE THOUSAND TWENTY NINETEEN TEN THOUSAND TWENTY TWENTY FIFTEEN THOUSAND TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. SO THE PARTNERSHIP IS REAL. THE PARTNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT AND I WILL STOP THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF NOT, I AM HAPPY TO GO INTO MY PRESENTATION FOR RECONSIDERATION. QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL. SO, YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION, SO I I BELIEVE I MADE THE MOTION IN 2020. HMM. AND DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO? I DID, BECAUSE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WAS WE DO NOT WANT TO FUND A STAFF POSITION. ABSOLUTELY. HE JUST LAID OFF OVER 40 PEOPLE. THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE FUNDING A STAFF POSITION FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY I EMAILED MY CONTACT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MOTION TO GIVE THE GRANT FOR A PROGRAM AND DENY THE GRANT FOR [01:15:06] FUNDING A POSITION WAS EVER MISUNDERSTOOD OR MISAPPLIED, RIGHT? IT WAS NOT MISUNDERSTOOD BY ME. OK, SO WELL, YOU SAID THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT THE COUNCIL DID NOT DIRECT THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECTED THE COUNCIL, APPROVED THE BUILDING FOR GROWTH GRANT, WHICH WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE GRANT. IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, THE CONVERSATION LEANS TOWARDS, THEY WANTED TO FUND OUR TEACHER AND FACULTY PROGRAMING, BUT THEY CLEARLY FUNDED BUILDING FOR GROWTH. AND SO THAT'S WHY MY EMAIL, I SAID, CAN WE MOVE THE FUNDS THEN? THE ONLY THING I THINK IS THAT THOSE WERE MISIDENTIFIED TO US AS WHICH WAS WHICH IN THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE ALL DISCUSSION WAS WE'RE NOT FUNDING THE ONE THAT THAT IS FUNDING A POSITION. THAT'S AND I THINK SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO IN TURN, BUT AND I THINK PROBABLY WHERE THE MISCOMMUNICATION COMES FROM IS I WAS GETTING IT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT. THE NAMES OF THE TWO GRANTS, ABSOLUTELY. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, DON'T THEY? AND SO I THINK THAT'S MY GUESS IS THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH STAFF IS THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE VERY INTERESTED IN FUNDING PROGRAMING, NOT STAFFING. BUT THEN WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE NAMES OF THE GRANTS, THERE WAS AN ASSUMPTION MADE THAT EACH GRANT WAS THE OPPOSITE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY THEY THEY GAVE YOU THE FUNDING. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING TO US THAT YOU TRIED TO CORRECT THAT WITH CITY STAFF, AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION. AND THE CITY STAFF SAID, NO, WE'RE FUNDING THE RIGHT ONE. SPEND IT AND YOU DID. RIGHT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, DIRECTION THAT YOU GOT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS A THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING ON MY PART WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE 2022 WAS THERE WAS ALMOST KIND OF AN ASSUMPTION MADE THAT YOU FUNDED THE WRONG ONE INTENTIONALLY. AND AND SOUNDS LIKE THAT WASN'T THE CASE, RIGHT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY? AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LEARNING AS WE'RE GROWING AS A CITY OF HOW TO DO THINGS, BUT AND WITH OUR PROCESSES AS THEY'RE IMPROVING. BUT FOR IF THERE WAS CONFUSION, IF THE COUNCIL DID MAKE A MISTAKE, THEN IT COULD HAVE COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANOTHER VOTE AND A FIX BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT? WHEN Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE THE PRIORITY. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S HOW THE DISCUSSION ON THE DIAS WAS GOING THAT NIGHT. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A LESSON LEARNED. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WANTING TO CLARIFY THE SITUATION. AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR, FOR MY PART, IN THE CONVERSATION FOR THE 2022 FUNDING BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL FOR THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING BACK IN SEPTEMBER, THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO GO OFF OF. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REACHING OUT AND FOR ALL OF YOU ON THE BOARD FOR MEETING WITH ME AND EXPLAINING THE DETAILS AND THE FOUR YEAR HISTORY THAT WE'VE HAD WITH YOU GUYS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO BEFORE YOU GET THAT STARTED. SO I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR COMMUNICATION ISSUES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO APOLOGIZE THINGS COME UP IN ELECTION SEASON TO WHERE WE START MISCONSTRUING THINGS. SURE. AND SO. WHAT OCCURRED BACK IN THE BUDGET SEASON WAS THERE WAS AN IDEA FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS STAFF THAT AT TIMES NONPROFITS TURNED TO GET POLITICAL TO WHERE PEOPLE START, ALMOST LIKE PANDERING TO CERTAIN GROUPS AND GIVING MONEY OUT. AND SO THE IDEA THAT HE HAD BROUGHT UP WAS THAT THE STAFF UNKNOWN THAT UNBEKNOWNST TO THE COUNCIL, WOULD RECEIVE EVERYTHING, SCORE EVERYTHING, PRESENT THE THINGS TO CITY COUNCIL AND SO THEY PREVENT IT. THEY PRESENTED THAT TO CITY COUNCIL. WHAT THEY FELT WAS MOST OF WHAT I GUESS THE CITY'S VALUES WERE, AND THEY ALSO GAVE INSTRUCTION TO EVERY PERSON UP HERE THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE'RE THE FINAL SAYERS. AND SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME, ANY ONE OF THE SEVEN MINUS, I DON'T KNOW, KINSEY WAS HERE OTHER THAN COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS, AND I THINK MAYBE WE COULD HAVE GONE BACK AND ASKED OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT THE ANY KIND OF ISSUES REALLY RESTS WITH THE ENTIRE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE WERE ALL KIND OF GIVEN THE DIRECTION. SO COMMUNICATION'S ALWAYS GOOD. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION TOMORROW. YEAH. AND I AND I DO LIKE I UNDERSTAND YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, SO WE WILL TOTALLY SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE. MY MAIN POINT OF BEING HERE IS JUST TO CLEAR THE AIR THAT WE USE THE FUNDS FOR WHAT WE WERE GIVEN MISCOMMUNICATION. YES, I CLEARLY SAW IT FROM THE OUTSIDE. I TRIED TO CLEAR IT UP AS BEST I CAN WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING HOW THINGS WORK. TO NO AVAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW NEXT TIME TO PUSH HARDER AND ASK MORE QUESTIONS IF IT WERE TO EVER HAPPEN AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T. YEAH, AND JUST REACH OUT TO ANY OF US. YEAH, YEAH. IF ANYBODY TELLS YOU THAT WE'RE TOO RUSHED TO DO ANYTHING OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME, WE'RE USUALLY HERE UNTIL 2:00 OR 3:00 OR 4:00 IN THE MORNING, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GLADLY TO TALK FOR AN HOUR ABOUT $500 DEAL, SO WE'LL ALWAYS BE WILLING TO SPEND [01:20:02] THE TIME TO TALK TO EVERYBODY. WELL, THANK YOU. YEAH. AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT STAFFER TO YOU ALSO WAS I REMEMBER A COUNCIL MEMBER WAS REALLY WANTED IN DEPTH. REVIEW OF THE FINANCIALS OF THE STAFF WOULD DO THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE BY COUNCILMAN, NECESSARILY IN THE PAST WHEN THEY JUST GET A PRESENTATION. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY COMING UP AND GIVING GREAT REASONS WHY THEY NEED THE MONEY AND THEN THE COUNCIL MAKING A DECISION ON THE FLY, RIGHT? HMM. IT WAS GETTING STAFF TO ACTUALLY GRADE THINGS AND GIVE US REASONING BEHIND IT, AND THEN WE COULD STILL DO IT. SO I THINK MAYBE AN ENHANCEMENT WOULD BE TO DO THAT SAME PROCESS WE DID THIS PAST YEAR, BUT THEN ALSO BRING THE ORGANIZATIONS IN FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN COMBINE THE TWO AND MAKE IT A BETTER PROCESS. YEAH, YEAH. YES, SIR. I DEFINITELY AGREE. I THINK THAT WHENEVER IT WAS PRESENTED WITH THE SCORE SHEET AND THE CRITERIA, IT WAS WORDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD STRONG MISSION, STRONG VALUES, BUT IT WAS ALMOST KIND OF TO ME, PRESENTED IN A WELL, THEY DIDN'T USE THE MONEY HOW THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. SO FOR ME, IT WAS AN IMMEDIATE LIKE, WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO ABSOLUTELY WANTED OR ALLOCATED FOR ME, IT WAS AN IMMEDIATE NO RIGHT. SO I DEFINITELY THANK YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING THIS BACK UP BECAUSE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CLEAR THAT AIR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S HOW I READ IT AND THAT'S HOW I HEARD IT. SO WHETHER IT'S A COUNCIL MISCOMMUNICATION OR STAFF OR I'M NOT REALLY HERE TO PLACE BLAME WHATSOEVER, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT. YEAH, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO I WILL GO INTO MY PRESENTATION, SO AGAIN, IT'S IT'S KIND OF PERFECT TIMING THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT. SO OUR FOCUS THIS YEAR AT THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION, SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR, IS ONE VISION BEING THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH A HIPPO AS THE MASCOT. WE WANT TO SHOW THE WORLD THE POWER OF THE HIPPO, SO IT'S ONE VISION, ONE HIPPO, ONE HUTTO. SO OUR REQUEST THIS YEAR THAT WE ASKED TO BE RECONSIDERED. OH, I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED AHEAD. SO OUR MISSION IS TO. HERE WE GO. OUR MISSION IS TO PARTNER WITH HUTTO ISD TO ENHANCE, ENRICH, MOTIVATE, MAXIMIZE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN HIPPO NATION. SO THIS COMES IN THE FORM OF TEACHER GRANTS, WHICH WE CALL OUR EXCELLENCE AND EDUCATION GRANTS TEACHER AND FACULTY STUDENT IMPACT GRANTS, WHERE WE GET TO HEAR FROM THE STUDENTS DIRECTLY AND THEN STUDENT SCHOLARSHIPS. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SINCE OUR INCEPTION, WHICH WAS BACK IN 2006, THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION HAS FUNDED OVER $1 MILLION IN TEACHER AND FACULTY GRANTS, STUDENT GRANTS, STUDENT SCHOLARSHIPS, ET CETERA. SO OUR REQUEST THIS YEAR IS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN OUR IMPACT AS THE DISTRICT CONTINUES TO GROW. THESE FUNDS WILL HELP US INCREASE OUR REACH THROUGH OUR GRANT PROGRAMS. THIS YEAR, WE ARE PLANNING ON GIVING 20 PERCENT MORE IN EXCELLENCE. EDUCATION GRANTS TWENTY FIVE PERCENT MORE IN STUDENT IMPACT GRANTS AND APPROXIMATELY 20 PERCENT MORE IN STUDENT SCHOLARSHIPS. WE ARE HUTTO, SO THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HUTTO, AS MENTIONED ON THE CITY OF HUTTO WEBSITE, AND IT'S GROWING AT A RAPID RATE. AS WE ALL KNOW AT THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION, WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO WE ARE DEDICATED TO CONTINUING TO FUND CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION THAT MAKES HIPPO HIPPO NATION THE PREMIER CHOICE IN EDUCATION. PARTNERING WITH US MEANS SUPPORTING TEACHERS AND STAFF DURING A CRUCIAL TIME AND INVESTING IN YOUR FUTURE LEADERS. NOW, MORE THAN EVER, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, HOW DO I ISD NEEDS A VILLAGE TO RALLY AROUND THEM? SO JOIN US AS WE FOCUS ON ONE VISION HOW DO ISD CONTINUES TO BE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THE CITY OF HUTTO? APPROXIMATELY FIVE PERCENT OF OUR TEACHERS AND FACULTY ARE ALUMNI THAT HAVE RETURNED HOME TO TEACH. 80 PERCENT OF THE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN HUTTO ISD ARE ALSO HUTTO RESIDENTS. SO THESE STUDENTS ARE YOUR FUTURE. WE PROVIDE PROGRAMS THAT ENRICH, INSPIRE AND SUPPORT STUDENTS THROUGH COLLEGE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO RETURN HOME TO BEGIN THEIR CAREERS. SO HERE'S A LITTLE SNAPSHOT. SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S COMING THROUGH LIKE THIS, BUT THANKS TO OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS, OUR EMPLOYEE GIVING CAMPAIGN, OUR SUPPORT FROM FRIENDS, FAMILY AND COMMUNITY, OUR PROGRAMS ARE THRIVING. SO THIS YEAR, THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION AWARDED THIRTY TWO INNOVATIVE GRANTS TOTALING ONE HUNDRED AND NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THOSE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES THE GRANT PATROL THAT WE DO THAT REALLY MAKES IT SINK IN AS TO WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO. SO IN JUST TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, THE GRANT THAT YOU GAVE US WASN'T FOR PROGRAMING, BUT BECAUSE WE VALUE THE RELATIONSHIP, WE VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP. WE THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE TWO OF US TO BE WORKING TOGETHER. WE CONSTANTLY TAKE YOU WITH US IN THESE IN THESE GRANT PATROLS. WE PUT YOUR NAME ON THE CHECK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH OUR ORGANIZATION. [01:25:05] SO YOU'RE ONE WITH US. SO EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN, WE MENTION THE CITY OF HUTTO IN OUR IN OUR PATROLS. NEXT UP, THE STUDENT IMPACT GRANTS. THIS YEAR, WE AWARDED FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN STUDENT DRIVEN GRANTS. AND SO THIS THESE ARE INITIATIVES THAT THE STUDENTS COME UP WITH. SO THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE ON THEIR CAMPUS, IN THEIR CLASSROOM, DISTRICT WIDE, THESE ARE STUDENT DRIVEN IDEAS. AND THE GOOD PART ABOUT THIS, THEY HAVE TO PARTNER WITH A TEACHER WHO IS LIKE THEIR TEACHER SPONSOR. SO THE TEACHER OVERSEES THE FUNDING, THE PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, TURNING IN ALL THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS. BUT THIS IS OUR FUTURE AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES WHAT WE DO SO IMPORTANT. SO SCHOLARSHIPS FOR HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS, SO OUR SCHOLARSHIPS ARE PREDOMINANTLY FUNDED BY OUR ENDOWMENT WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY SOLID WASTE. SO WE GET A PERCENTAGE OF THE TIPPING FEES FROM WILKO THAT WE PUT IN AN ENDOWMENT, AND THE EARNINGS FROM THAT FUND ARE SCHOLARSHIPS EACH YEAR. SO IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE FUNDED 18 HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL, GRADUATING SENIOR SCHOLARSHIPS AT $20000 AND THREE RETURNING SCHOLARSHIP SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS AT FIVE THOUSAND. SO THE GREAT THING ABOUT WHAT WE DO IF YOU GET A SCHOLARSHIP AS A SENIOR, IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. YOU ARE ABLE TO APPLY EACH YEAR IN COLLEGE FOR SCHOLARSHIPS TO KIND OF SEE YOU THROUGH. WE REALLY WANT TO BE THERE TO HELP OUR STUDENTS THROUGH COLLEGE. WE HAVE A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. CHECK SPECIFICALLY STACY. SO ANY HUTTO ISD GRADUATE IN THEIR THIRD OR FOURTH SEMESTER THAT'S IN GOOD ACADEMIC STANDING AUTOMATICALLY GETS A SCHOLARSHIP FOR $500 THAT THE STACY FOUNDATION MATCHES. SO AGAIN, JUST SEEING OUR STUDENTS THROUGH AND BUILDING BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS THAT SAYS THANK YOU, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT VERY WELL. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. WE DO. WE VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP MORE THAN ANYTHING. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DID RIGHT BY YOU. WE DID RIGHT BY WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE GRANT WAS FUNDED FOR, AND WE DID REALLY BIG THINGS WITH THE MONEY THAT WE WERE GIVEN IN 2021. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLAUDIA, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE USING THE EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION GRANTS SPECIFICALLY, LIKE HOW THE TEACHERS USE THE FUNDING THAT Y'ALL HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST? ABSOLUTELY. SO ONE THAT REALLY STICKS OUT IS MS. DEIDRE MILLING. SHE IS A DYSLEXIA SPECIALIST AT ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE TOOLS THAT SHE GETS FROM, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GREAT. BUT SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND SHE HAD THIS REALLY CREATIVE LIKE, I WANT TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, I WANT TO PROVIDE MORE FOR MY STUDENTS. SO SHE FOUND THIS PEN CALLED THE C PEN, AND SHE APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND WE REVIEWED IT. WE SCORED IT. WE FUNDED IT. SO THIS PEN ALLOWS STUDENTS TO TAKE THE PEN AND SCAN IT OVER TEXT AND THE PEN TALKS TO THEM. THE PEN TELLS THEM WHAT WORDS THEY'RE READING. THE PEN CAN LOOK UP A SPECIFIC WORD AND TELL THE KID WHAT IT MEANS. THE PEN CAN TRANSLATE TO OTHER LANGUAGES. SO THIS TOOL HAS TOTALLY TAKEN HER TEACHING CAPABILITIES TO A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL, AND SHE'S ABLE TO CONNECT WITH HER STUDENTS MORE BECAUSE OF THIS TOOL THAT WE PROVIDED. ANOTHER ONE YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE. A COUPLE OF STUDENTS ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON RECYCLING, AND THEY SAW THIS AWESOME NEW STADIUM GOING IN AND THEY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PLASTIC THAT COMES OUT OF THAT STADIUM. WE WANT RECYCLE BINS AS MANY AS WE CAN GET IN THAT STADIUM. SO THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION REVIEWED THE APPLICATION. IT WAS SCORED AGAINST ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS AND IT WAS SELECTED TO BE FUNDED. SO I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION, SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW, FROM BOOKS. ONE OF THEM WAS CALLED I LIKE BIG BOOKS AND I CANNOT LIE. AND SO IT WAS A LIBRARY OF BIG BOOKS FOR THE TEACHER TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH HER STUDENTS. DANA COOPER AT NADINE JOHNSON. ELEMENTARY RECEIVED EIGHT GRANTS THIS YEAR. SHE HAS A VENDING MACHINE WHERE STUDENTS CAN GO AND PUT COINS IN HER SPECIAL COINS AND GET A BOOK, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS READ AND LEARN SHE HAS BICYCLES WHERE KIDS CAN SIT AND READ AND WRITE AND READ. SO JUST SUPER CREATIVE THINGS THAT ONLY INSPIRE KIDS LOVE OF LEARNING FURTHER THAN WHAT A TYPICAL LIBRARY WOULD. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW TO KIND OF SPOTLIGHT WHAT WE DO. HOW MANY APPLICATIONS DO YOU TYPICALLY GET? SO THIS YEAR, I THINK WE HAD 42 AND WE WERE ABLE TO FUND 32 WITH THE STUDENT IMPACT GRANTS. I THINK WE FUNDED SIX AND THERE WERE MAYBE LIKE 10 OR 11. SO WE WE KEEP SEEING MORE INTEREST WITH THE STUDENT IMPACT GRANTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO INSPIRE IN OUR KIDS BECAUSE IT'S SO IT'S SO SWEET TO SEE [01:30:03] A APPLICATION WRITTEN IN A FIRST GRADERS HANDWRITING LIKE IT JUST WARMS THE HEART. AND I THINK SECRETLY, THAT'S MOST OF OUR FAVORITE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE GET TO, YOU KNOW, CONNECT WITH THE STUDENTS AND CELEBRATE WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AND DOING WITH NOT GETTING FUNDED THIS YEAR. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND AS MUCH OR AS MANY? OR WHAT'S THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS NUMBER OF APPLICANTS AND NUMBER OF STUDENTS HELPED OR NOT HELPED? YEAH. SO I JUST KEEP GOING. I AM A BIG BELIEVER IN RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, SO WE HAD MORE CORPORATE PARTNERS THIS YEAR. WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH OUR EMPLOYEE GIVING CAMPAIGN. WE MOVE THAT FROM A PAPER CAMPAIGN TO A COMPLETELY ONLINE CAMPAIGN, SO IT WAS EASIER FOR EMPLOYEES TO GIVE. WE HAVE THE STICKER CAMPAIGN. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING US, I COME UP WITH A STICKER FOR EVERY EVERYTHING. AND SO IN EXCHANGE FOR A DONATION TO THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION, YOU GET A STICKER OF YOUR CHOICE. SO JUST DIFFERENT WAYS OF CONNECTING TO THE COMMUNITY, CREATING EXCITEMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S GREAT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S SUPPORT, BUT IF NOT, I MEAN, WE WILL GO ON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND IF I RECALL THIS MORNING AT THE POWER BREAKFAST, DR. STRADA THOMAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE 9100 STUDENTS IN THE ISD RIGHT NOW, PROJECTING ABOUT 10000 FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THE TAX DOLLARS ONLY GO SO FAR. MM HMM. ALL RIGHT. JUST GOOD NUMBERS. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE. ALL RIGHT. DID ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO ADD TO OR ANYTHING JUST FROM YOUR COULD YOU COME, COULD YOU COME OVER TO THE PODIUM? THIS IS ELIZABETH MCMASTER'S, OUR NEW PRESIDENT. YOU WERE ASKING WHAT WE HAVE FUNDED, SO IF THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION WAS THE FIRST TO FUND THE ROBOTICS PROGRAM, SO AND YOU CAN SEE HOW AMAZING THAT PROGRAM HAS GONE, SO IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE'VE WON FOUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. YEAH, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AND IT HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY WHERE IT STARTED JUST WITH A FEW KIDS. AND NOW IT'S THE HIGH SCHOOL. MIDDLE SCHOOL STARTS AT THE ELEMENTARY, RAISING THESE KIDS INTO THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE LEARNING, MARKETING, SPIRIT ENGINEERING, WRITING, THE NOTEBOOKS AND THEN PROGRAMING. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S THE TIMELINE WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS FUNDING BECAUSE I HAVE BIGGER PICTURE? ABSOLUTELY. SO WE HAVE OUR CORPORATE DRIVE FROM FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY TO MARCH. THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY DO OUR BIG PUSH. YOU KNOW, FOR FOR CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS, BUT WE ACCEPT PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. YOU WILL ALL BE GETTING AN INVITATION. WE ARE HAVING A CORPORATE DRIVE KICKOFF ON MARCH 10TH AND IT'LL BE AT THE STADIUM. WE'LL HAVE SOME GRANTS IN ACTION, SO YOU CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENT ONES THAT I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THEM IN ACTION. WE'LL HAVE REFRESHMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEAUTIFUL SUNSET AT HUTTO MEMORIAL STADIUM. OK. SO JUST TO. PUT OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M JUST NOT NOT WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH AT THE CITY LEVEL. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A POLICY OF SPENDING ONE PERCENT ON OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. AND SO I NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE SIT ON THAT. IF WE ARE GOING TO ADD MORE FUNDING TO IT. SO I'D WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SECOND, WE ARE AWARE JUST NOW THAT WE NEED FUNDING FOR THE PARKS AND THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO DO ALL THE REPAIRS THAT WE WANT. AND SO WE NEED TO BALANCE THE PRIORITY OF FUNDING THE PARKS AND FUNDING THIS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, RESTORED RECREATION PROGRAMS AND LIBRARY PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS IN THE BUDGET CYCLE IS THAT WE'RE WEIGHING EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE AND WE HAVE COMPETING THINGS COMING IN AND IT'S. I DON'T WANT TO RUSH AND FUND SOMETHING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION AND PRIORITIZE IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE BUDGET, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FUND A PROGRAM. WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO DO OTHER THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. I'D LIKE TO JUST SORT OF TAG OFF OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAID, AND I'M SORT OF LATE TO THE PARTY HERE, BUT. THE ONE PERCENT THAT'S DICTATED BY OUR AND I THINK IT'S IN THE CHARTER THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S A REASON THAT WE DO IT AT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND I AM I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING THE. [01:35:01] THE MISCOMMUNICATION THAT THAT MAY HAVE OCCURRED, MAYBE FROM BOTH FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS FOR ME. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PRECEDENT FOR THE COUNCIL TO MIDSTREAM MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET AND AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HGF, RIGHT? IT'S THE PRECEDENT THAT IS WHAT MIGHT BE SAID OF ORGANIZATIONS COMING AND OH, I MISSED THE DEADLINE AND OR WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE GOOD GRACES OF THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THEIR FUNDING. AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE COMMUNICATION WAS RIGHT BETWEEN THE ORGANIZATIONS FROM CITY STAFF IN THAT IN THAT INITIAL PROCESS. AND MAYBE THAT WAS A LESSON THAT. MM HMM. SO YOUR STAFF AND COUNCIL COULD HAVE LEARNED, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH THIS WHOLE THING IS I JUST I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ABSOLUTELY THE MESSAGE THAT WE WOULD BE SENDING. SURE. I DO WANT TO NOTE, THOUGH, THAT OUR STUFF WAS ON TIME AND COMPLETELY COMPOSED. AND AGAIN, MY MAIN POINT BEING HERE IS TO CLEAR THE AIR, CLEAR OUR NAME BECAUSE WE DID, AS WE WERE TOLD TO DO WITH OUR GRANT FROM 2020. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THIS IS MORE OF AN APPEAL. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SET UP, I DON'T THINK, TO ADDRESS APPEALS WITH THIS, ESPECIALLY NOT NOW IN FEBRUARY. I DON'T THINK THAT IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT WHATSOEVER. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE DIDN'T LET YOU GUYS PRESENT, SO THAT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN AN OVERSIGHT AND TIMING ISSUE. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD NECESSARILY SET A PRECEDENT. IT'S UNPRECEDENTED THAT WE DIDN'T LET YOU GUYS PRESENT AND THEN WHEN YOU GUYS COULD HAVE CLEARED THE AIR RIGHT THEN AND THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIR POINT TO BE MADE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND ALL TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. BUT CLEARLY A MISTAKE WAS MADE. AND I KNOW WITH EDUCATION GRANTS IMPACTS, I MEAN, THOSE ARE HUGE IN OUR STUDENTS LIVES. SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT I'M NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF FUNDING THE WHOLE THING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MAY BE ABLE TO TO MAKE IT THROUGH THIS YEAR WITHOUT. BUT I DO THINK THAT NEXT YEAR, FOR SOME REASON, WE DON'T APPROVE SOMETHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR THAT WE DO REMEMBER THAT AND THAT IS NOTED IN THE NEXT YEAR'S PROCESS. AND HOPEFULLY THOSE DETAILED NOTES WILL BE INCLUDED. AND YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO PRESENT. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE THE PRECEDENT THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD GO WITH. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY AND THE FACT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S WE'RE IN DANGER OF CONFUSING ANYTHING WITH THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS WAS CHANGED UP A BIT ON Y'ALL, UNBEKNOWNST TO EVERYBODY. AND SO HERE YOU ARE. AND SO I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE MATTER OF US CHECKING WITH OUR CFO HOW HOW MUCH OF THE ONE PERCENT OF THAT WAS ALLOCATED AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE CARDS FOR US RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THERE'S FURTHER CONSIDERATION FOR US TO HAVE AS A COUNCIL TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS A WE'RE IN DANGER OF SETTING ANY NEW PRECEDENTS FOR FUTURE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHETHER YOU DECIDE TO FUND THIS YEAR OR NOT, WE STILL WANT A PARTNERSHIP WITH Y'ALL BECAUSE WE REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. YEARS PRIOR TO ME, JOINING A COUNCIL MEMBER HELD A POSITION ON OUR BOARD AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER FOR TEACHERS AND STUDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KRISTIE, THERE WAS ANOTHER PRESENTER, RIGHT? YES, YES, MAYOR. WE DO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR WILLIAMSON AND BURNET COUNTIES, MARCO CRUZ HERE SPECIFICALLY ON BEHALF OF THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND THANK YOU FOR HYPNOTIZING ME THIS LATER EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON THAT THAT WAS FUN. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR HAMPTON AND BURNET COUNTIES. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF WHO WE ARE. WE ARE THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY FOR WILLIAMSON AND BURNING COUNTIES. WE GO WAY BACK ALL THE WAY TO LBJ. SO OUR FOUNDATION STARTS WITH PROGRAMS THAT WERE FOUNDED AND PUSHED AND RUN THROUGH OUR WONDERFUL TEXAS PRESIDENT JOHNSON, PRESIDENT JOHNSON IN THE WAR ON POVERTY, THE EQUAL [01:40:04] OPPORTUNITY ACT. SO OUR PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE. OUR AGENCY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE. WE'RE GOOD AT WHAT WE DO. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER MANY DECADES. SO OUR AGENCY, I JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO. SO WE ALSO HAVE THE HEAD START PROGRAM. WE HAVE A HEAD START PROGRAM HERE IN HUTTO. WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAM. WE PROVIDE UTILITY ASSISTANCE, RENT ASSISTANCE, MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE SOON TO BE WATER ASSISTANCE. SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY. AND SO WE WE PROVIDE THAT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THOSE ARE ALL FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS. SO THESE ARE GRANTS THAT ARE CONTINUOUSLY RUNNING AS LONG AS WE DO WELL. AND THANK GOD, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE SIXTY FIVE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE DONE WELL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. SO WITH THAT SAID, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WAS ALSO AROUND BACK IN SIXTY FIVE THAT GOT LAUNCHED WAS THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. SO THE MEALS ON WHEELS, WE DO SERVE BURNETT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES. WE DO HAVE FIVE KITCHENS THROUGHOUT BOTH COUNTIES. FOUR OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY HERE AND WE HAMPTON COUNTY. WE ALSO HAVE FIVE SIX CONGREGATE SITES CONGREGATE, MEANING THAT PEOPLE COME TOGETHER. WE HAVE A KITCHEN. THEY GATHER. WE HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR THE OLDER PERSONS. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, WITH COVID, WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE OPEN AS OF THIS WEEK. WE NOW HAVE ALL THOSE SIX SITES OPEN. AND IT'S AND IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE WHO LIVES IN WIMS IN A BURNING COUNTIES. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A COVID YEAR, SO THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DOWN. BUT WE DID SERVE TO 220000 MEALS TO ALL OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS. WE DID HAVE OVER 12000 ON DUPLICATED PERSONS WHICH DELIVERED TO THEIR HOMES. WE DID NOT HAVE. WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE WAY TO COUNT WHAT WE CALL CONGREGATE. EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT DELIVER OR WE DID NOT HAVE THEM COME IN, WE DID DELIVER TO THEM SEPARATELY AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 500 PERSONS. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE THE CONGREGATE MEALS PERSON OR PARTICIPANTS CAN ACTUALLY COME TO OUR SITE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET IN A CAR, COME TO OUR SITE AND GET GET THE FREE MEALS. THE OTHER ONES, WE ACTUALLY DO AN ASSESSMENT. WE GO TO THEIR HOME, THEY APPLY. WE VISIT WITH THEM. WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE HOMEBOUND SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COME OUT AND GROCERY SHOP, COOK FOR THEMSELVES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE ALSO COMPLETE A FULL ASSESSMENT ON HOW THEY HOW THEY'RE DOING SO A WELLNESS CHECK. SO WE CERTIFY THAT. AND THEN WE WE PUT THEM IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE GET THEM A MEAL, USUALLY THE NEXT DAY. WE HAVE A LARGE VOLUNTEER BASE, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 400 VOLUNTEERS. IT COULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON. WE HAVE CORPORATIONS, WE HAVE ERCOT IS ONE THAT DOES IT, DELL DOES IT. SO WE HAVE CORPORATIONS THAT DO IT AS A TEAM. SOMETIMES CHURCHES AS WELL, THEY DO IT AS WELL FOR US AND LOTS OF TIMES IT'S JUST INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO GIVE SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY OR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'LL VOLUNTEER, SAY, WELL, I'LL DO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE GOT SIX PERSONS THAT ARE THAT I WANT TO GET A MEAL FOR. THEY'LL COME IN TO VOLUNTEER AND THEY'LL HELP US GET THOSE MEALS TO THESE PEOPLE. THEY'RE ALL VETTED. THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL CHECKED THROUGH, I GUESS, THROUGH LICENSING. SO WE HAVE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT PERSONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SUSPECT VISITING OUR OUR OUR CONGREGANTS ARE, NOR ARE OUR CLIENTS. SO WE DO LOTS OF TRAINING. WE CAN TRAIN THEM ON BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? ARE THEY TAKING THEIR MEDICATION, VISIT WITH THEM? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY FALL DOWN? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO THE DOOR AND THEN WE DO A RIDE ALONG WITH THEM, SOMETIMES BECAUSE SOME OF OUR CLIENTS CAN'T GET TO THE DOOR IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO IF YOU KNOCK? THEY DON'T COME TO THE DOOR. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE. IT JUST MEANS IT MAY TAKE THEM A WHILE TO GET TO THE DOOR. SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH. SO WE WE'RE VERY, VERY MUCH. MUCH IN TUNE WITH OUR CLIENTS, SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL. WE HAVE BEEN FUNDED BEFORE, WE'VE BEEN FUNDED FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS FOR ABOUT $10000, SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES HAPPEN IS WE ARE GOVERNMENT FUNDED MOSTLY IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, MEALS ON WHEELS. WE'RE ONLY FUNDED BY ABOUT 60 PERCENT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GET MONEY FROM FOUNDATIONS AND ALL THIS. WE DO ALL THAT WE GET. WE HIT EVERY FOUNDATION WE CAN. ANYBODY THAT'S HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE PARTNER WITH THEM, WE PARTNER WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. WE MAY NEED TO MAKE UP THAT 40 PERCENT. [01:45:02] WE HAVE FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE A CLAY SHOOT. WE DO HAVE THINGS THAT WE CALL A STYLE SHOW. WE HAVE AMPLIFY AUSTIN. IN FACT, THIS YEAR WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST YEAR KNOWING THAT WHEN COVID HIT, THERE WAS NO WAY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO OUR FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES IN PERSON. SO WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHED A VERY, VERY NICE CAMPAIGN WHERE WE DO THINGS ONLINE. SO DONATIONS HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY THEY'RE COMING IN. BUT AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WHEN TIMES ARE GOOD, DONATIONS ARE GOOD. WHEN TIMES ARE BAD, YOU PRAY THAT THEY CONTINUE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO THE DONATIONS HAVE COME UP BECAUSE WE'VE GONE ELECTRONIC. SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DONATE, BY THE WAY, 0W WBC X.ORG AND YOU CAN DONATE, THERE'S A DONATE BUTTON AND YOU CAN DONATE TO ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE MAKE IT. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE MAKE UP THAT 40 PERCENT. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TODAY, LITERALLY JUST I OBVIOUSLY WAS HERE FOR THE ROOM IN THE ROOM FOR HEARING THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. AND SO I WILL SAY THIS AND COUNCILMAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S FUNDING OR NOT ANY FUNDING. I WILL TELL YOU THIS THAT ANY FUNDING FOR US WOULD BE APPRECIATED. WE'RE ASKING FOR 15000. AGAIN, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN FUNDED FOR 10000. AND AGAIN, SOMEHOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE FIGURE IT OUT. WE FOUND A DONOR. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DONATE THAT ARE ON OUR LISTS THAT ARE YEARLY DONORS, AND THEY LOVE THESE PROGRAMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE PRETTY WELL WITH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IS WHEN PERSONS PASS AWAY. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WILL THEIR INHERITANCE TO US BECAUSE THEY JUST LOVE THIS PROGRAM. THEY CAME, THEY SAT, THEY PLAYED DOMINOES, THEY PLAYED LOTTERY OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL KINDS WE HAD. WE HAVE A BAND COME IN ONE OF OUR CONGREGATE SITES AND THEY JAM OUT. THE OLDER GENTLEMAN COME OUT AND THEY JAM OUT. SO THEY PLAY MUSIC, THEY PLAY BOARD GAMES, AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS THAT HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THEM ON AND DOMINOES? THEY WILL. THEY WILL TAKE YOU DOWN. THAT IS. YEAH, THERE'S THERE ARE SOME CHAMPIONS OUT THERE, SOME DOMINO CHAMPIONS OUT THERE, BUT IT'S MORE THAN THAT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IT'S IT'S CONGREGATING. IT'S BEING OUT THERE, IT'S VISITING WITH THEM, DOING WELLNESS CHECKS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE TAKING THEIR MEDICATION. ADDITIONALLY, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THIS, BUT ADDITIONALLY TO THAT WE ALSO HAVE A PET PROGRAM. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITH OUR CLIENTS WE HAD DISCOVERED IS THAT WE WOULD FEED THEM. WE'D BRING THEIR MEAL. AND THEY WOULD FEED HALF OF IT TO THEIR PET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PET FOOD. AND SO ONCE WE FIGURED THAT OUT, WELL, SO WE HAD TO GET A PARTNERSHIP TO TO HAVE A PET PROGRAM. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS WILL BRING SOMEONE A BAG OF PET FOOD, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT YOUR DOG COVERED AND GOT YOUR CAT COVERED. THE MEAL THAT I'M PROVIDING YOU TODAY IS FOR YOU. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT OUR MEALS IS THAT THEY ARE SCRATCH. OK. SO THIS IS NOT THE BANQUET MEALS OR THE TV DINNERS THAT YOU SEE. WE DON'T PURCHASE THOSE. WE ACTUALLY DO. OUR STAFF SHOWS UP AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND THEY BEGIN TO COOK AND WE DO TWO THINGS. WE NOT ONLY COOK FOR OUR OUR ELDERLY PERSONS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, BUT WE ALSO COOK FOR OUR MEALS ON OUR HEAD START CHILDREN. SO OUR COOKS, THEY HIT, THEY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. THEY MAKE SURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE BREAKFAST, THEY HAVE LUNCH AND THEY ALSO HAVE A SNACK. IN ADDITION TO THIS GROUP, BECAUSE WE'RE GOVERNMENT FUNDED, WE HAVE LOTS OF REGULATIONS. WE'VE GOT MANUALS, WE'VE GOT A ON-SITE NUTRITIONIST WHO VERIFIES WHAT TYPE OF MEALS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO THEY'RE NUTRITIONALLY BALANCED. WE WE HAVE TO VERIFY ALL THAT ON WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING, WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT OVER, YOU KNOW, HITTING ANY PARTICULAR THE CATEGORIES. SO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET A PROTEIN OF A GRAIN AND A VEGETABLE. YEAH. SO AND ALL THE CALORIES ARE COUNTED. SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S VERIFIED THROUGH A NUTRITIONIST. SO THAT'S THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE THOSE ARE THAT ELDERLY, DISABLED CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF SIX AND THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE DISABLED. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, GOING BACK TO 65, AND WE'RE GOOD AT IT. SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY IS GROWING, SO WE EXPECT MORE PARTICIPATION FROM OUR CLIENTS. AND I DON'T EVER, EVER, EVER WANT TO TELL SOMEONE WHEN THEY CALL US ON THE PHONE AND SAY, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON A WAIT LIST. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR FOUR YEARS. [01:50:01] WE'VE NEVER, EVER TURNED ANYBODY DOWN. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY. WE FOUND IT. WE MADE IT HAPPEN. AND IT'S THESE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT MAKE IT HAPPEN, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE WILLING TO ADJUST ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO. ANY KIND OF CONTRIBUTION FROM. YOU GUYS DOES HELP US. IT REDUCES OUR COST. AND THEN IT ALSO TELLS US, WELL, WE'VE GOT A FUNDRAISER AT ANOTHER, ANOTHER LEVEL OR ANOTHER PLACE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL I HAVE I HAVE A FEW, SO I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY JUST FOR HOW TO SEW YOUR BURN IT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY CORRECT OF ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE POPULATION, WHAT PERCENT OF THAT IS HOW TO THAT YOU SERVICE? IT'S TWO PERCENT. IT'S A LITTLE OVER TWO PERCENT OF THE TOTAL POPULATION BETWEEN GORDON AND WEIGHS OK. AND I I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THIS ONE, AND I THINK IT WAS OF NOTE THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T A STRATEGIC OUTREACH PLAN. HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN WORKING ON THAT OR MADE ANY SORT OF LEAPS AND BOUNDS IN THAT AREA? WE'RE STILL IN PROCESS. YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL IN PROCESS. I'LL BE HONEST, COBRA DID HIT US PRETTY HARD. I'VE ACTUALLY LOST 40 POSITIONS. SO I'M TRYING TO MAINTAIN GROUND. I'M GOING TO BE VERY, VERY HONEST. BUT I DO. WE DO WANT TO DO OUTREACH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS HAS BEEN VERY GOOD COMING OUT FROM COVID IS THAT WE HAVE GONE ELECTRONIC. WE WERE IN THE DARK AGES. I WANT TO BE HONEST AND I USED TO WORK FOR HEAD START FOR FOUR YEARS. SO I KNOW WHAT. OH, OH, WE'VE CHANGED. I WORKED FOR FOUR YEARS. YEAH, SO I KNOW. BUT WE HAVE. SO OUR OUTREACH PROGRAMS ARE PICKING UP. WE'LL TELL YOU THIS THAT WE'RE USING EVERY ELECTRONIC MEANS THAT WE CAN. SO YES, WE DO. I DO HAVE A I HIRED A MARKETING PERSON JUST TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON A MARKETING PLAN ON HOW TO GET THE WORD OUT BECAUSE HERE'S THE SAD PART ABOUT IT. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN AT IT SINCE NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE. THAT'S A REALLY SAD THING TO SAY, AND IT'S GOTTEN BETTER. WE'VE JOINED A LOT OF COLLABORATIONS. I'M TRYING TO GET MORE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF WILLIAMS AND CO. TO GET THE WORD OUT. BUT BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. WELL. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, RICK. READY. ROCK HUDSON. EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, ROCK HUDSON, 12.7, RON DICKOV LAST YEAR I SPOKE ON THIS AND I SPOKE ABOUT MY OPPOSITION TO HAVING ANY SORT OF CITY FUNDING FOR A ENTITY THAT IS BASED WHOLLY OR IN PART ON A TAXING ENTITY. CURRENTLY, THE ISD TAXES ME AT A RATE APPROXIMATELY THREE TIMES WHAT I PAY TO THE CITY. I'M CURIOUS IF THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION RECEIVES $75000 IN GRANT MONEY FROM THE ISD, WHICH THEY SHOULD BE IN VERY CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH. FOR SOME REASON, I DOUBT THAT IS THE CASE, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, I THINK, ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR. ONE ORGANIZATION IS VERY CLEARLY IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE FROM SOMEONE, AND THEY'RE ASKING THE CITY FOR IT. THE OTHER ORGANIZATION IS EXPANDING THEIR EXISTING PROGRAM AND SAYS THEY CAN GET BY WITHOUT THE CITY'S ASSISTANCE. THE CITY IS NOT IN GOOD FINANCIAL SHAPE. WE HAVE MONEY THAT $25000 CAN FIX SIDEWALKS AND BRIDGES AND PARKS. I SAY MY OPINION. WE TAKE CARE OF THE CITY WITH CITY MONEY. NOT OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT CAN GET MONEY FROM OTHER TAXING ENTITIES, THE TAXES ARE ENOUGH ALREADY. THANK YOU. THANKS, SIR. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WITH THE OVERALL PROCESS. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE GENERALLY A COMMUNICATION ISSUE. WE HAVE COMMUNICATION ISSUE FROM POTENTIALLY THE CITY TO NONPROFITS THAT UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS AND PUT THE STUFF IN ON TIME. WE HAVE COMMUNICATION ISSUE BETWEEN CITY, THOSE NON-PROFITS AND COUNCIL. WE HAVE COMMUNICATION ISSUES WITH NON-PROFITS THAT ARE UNAWARE OF OUR PROCESS, SO THEY [01:55:05] DIDN'T EVEN APPLY. WHICH LEADS ME TO THE SECOND THING THAT I SEE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A PROCESS ISSUE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GONE BACK TO THE DAYS WHERE I HAVE YET TO HEAR OF A CHARITY THAT I DON'T THINK IS. WORTHY OF MONEY. I MEAN, EVERY CHARITY JUST HASN'T HAPPENED THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY COUPLE OF YEARS HERE. AND SO I THINK AT SOME POINT WE NEED A PROCESS FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE A WAY FOR US TO SCORE AND SET WHAT OUR WHAT OUR MISSIONS ARE, MISSIONS TO SUPPLY WHATEVER WE CAN AND NONPROFIT MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT IN MY MIND, MAYBE THEY THEY HELP THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A CITY SERVICE OR AN ISD SERVICE TO HELP WITH LIKE SENIOR CITIZENS. THE HRC WITH FOOD, MADELEINE SANDBOX WITH TEEN MENTAL HEALTH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF BIGGER ORGANIZATIONS, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO APPLY AND MONEY MAY BE GIVEN. BUT IF WE HAVE A PROCESS, WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR GOAL AS A CITY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GIVE OUT. I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS. WE JUST LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND WE SAY, WELL, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT ORGANIZATION. YOU CAN HAVE IT AND YOU CAN HAVE IT AND SOMEONE DOESN'T GET IT. AND THEN WE'RE NOT NOTIFYING EVERYBODY. SO. I'D ALMOST LIKE TO SEE US. I'M A LITTLE HESITANT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT AS MUCH AS I AM DOING THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION SEASON. I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS DO DO THE MONEY AND THE BUDGETING AFTER THE ELECTION SEASON, BECAUSE THEN THEN YOU'RE NOT FUNNY IN PARKS BECAUSE IT COULD GET YOU VOTES. YOU'RE NOT FUNDING THE NONPROFIT BECAUSE IT COULD GET YOU VOTES. YOU'RE JUST MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON MARY. I THINK THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT YOU'RE MAKING PERSONALLY. I HAD ANOTHER NONPROFIT REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT AN ISSUE AROUND CHRISTMASTIME. IF I COULD JUST PLEASE FINISH MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. SO THESE ARE MY FEELINGS. OK. AND SO. I'D ALMOST LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS TO DO THIS AT THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO ALL CHARITIES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHAT NONPROFITS WERE COMMUNICATED TO WHAT WEREN'T. AND I'M REALLY AFRAID OF A OF WE DO THIS AGAIN. AND THEN ANOTHER NONPROFIT COMES UP AND SAYS, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD A PROCESS HERE. WHAT IS THAT? AND THEN WE DO IT AGAIN, AND SO WE CAN STILL GET THAT DONE FAIRLY SOON, I THINK. AND THEN MY LAST ONE WAS ALREADY KIND OF SAID, THERE'S MANY GREAT ORGANIZATIONS. WE SHOULD DEVELOP A WAY TO SCORE AND RANK THOSE. AND SO AGAIN, JUST MY FEELINGS. BUT SACHSE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, I AGREE WITH ABOUT 80 PERCENT OR SO OF WHAT YOU SAY. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE DOES NEED TO BE A BETTER PROCESS FOR THESE MS. COMMUNICATIONS DON'T CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS A PRECEDENT. I THINK IT WAS MORE THE EXCEPTION THAT WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THOSE OUTSIDE FUNDING. I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT BEING ELECTION SEASON. I HAD A NONPROFIT REACH OUT TO ME THAT WE DID FUND, BUT SHE WAS UNSURE OF THE AMOUNT. AND WHEN WAS IT HAPPENING? I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AND ALL THAT HAPPENED AROUND CHRISTMAS, AND I'M NOT UP FOR REELECTION AND I'VE BEEN. PUTTING THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION MAYBE HASN'T BEEN THERE, AND AGAIN, IS THAT A STAFF ISSUE COUNCIL, WHICHEVER. BUT I JUST I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THAT'S AN OBTUSE ASSUMPTION TO ASSUME THAT IT'S JUST SOLELY BASED ON ELECTION SEASON BECAUSE I'M NOT UP FOR ELECTION AND I'VE HAD NONPROFITS REACH OUT TO ME. OTHER THAN THAT, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THERE TO BE AN EQUAL WAY OF SCORING. I THINK THAT WHAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRIED TO DO WAS A GOOD THING. THEY HAD STAFF NUMBERED ONE THROUGH FOUR AND THEY GAVE US A TOTAL AVERAGE SCORE. SO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON SCORED EACH ONE. AND THEN WE WERE GIVEN A BRIEF THREE SENTENCE SYNOPSIS ON EACH. SO I'M NOT SURE IN WHICH WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE UPON THAT UPON THAT PROCESS. BUT OVERALL, I THINK THAT THE CITY STAFF REALLY DID TRY TO TAKE THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM PRESENT TO JUST HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET WITH SOME JUST KIND OF BRIEF SCORING, SOME BRIEF TIDBITS. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT WAS MAYBE UNFORTUNATE THE WAY THAT SOME OF THOSE TIDBITS WERE PRESENTED. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I WAS UP HERE AND PRIVY TO THE SPREADSHEET, BUT THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME WAS MORE NEGATIVE WAY THAT THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION HAD NOT USED THE MONEY APPROPRIATELY. AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT I READ IT ON THE SPREADSHEET. SO IF THAT'S MY MISINTERPRETATION, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. [02:00:03] BUT I AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO TO CLEAR THE AIR ON THAT. I THINK IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. AND I I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF US MAKING AMENDMENTS ON MY SIDE. I PERSONALLY, JUST FOR THOSE HERE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. I'M AN EDUCATOR AT HEART. I'VE WORKED FOR HEADSTART, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH MEALS ON WHEELS. IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR, BUT I DO AGREE THAT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET SEASON, THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO. AND WITH THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED OUT, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON THAT PRECIPICE OF THE ONE PERCENT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN OUT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE NOTED IN FUTURE AND FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET SEASON. FOR THOSE THAT MAYBE MISSED OUT ON FUNDING FOR US TO RECONSIDER THAT COMING UP IN SEPTEMBER, IF I COULD JUST ARTICULATE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING TONIGHT IS ABOUT THE ELECTION. I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL, WHETHER IT BE THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR OR ANY YEAR. JUST THAT'S THE PRESIDENT'S I DON'T THINK IS GOOD IS YOU DON'T, IN MY OPINION, YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING BUDGET WISE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION SEASON BECAUSE ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE GOING TO START PUSHING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO A CERTAIN WAY. WHEN YOU JUST DO ANYTHING BUDGET RELATED AFTER THE ELECTION SEASON, THEN WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A STREET BEING DONE. LET'S SAY IN, WELL, LET'S SAY OLD TOWN. WELL, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE IT'S ELECTION SEASON, EVERYBODY WANTS TO IMPROVE OLD TOWN BECAUSE THERE'S MORE VOTERS THERE. WHEN YOU DO THE PROCESS AFTER THE ELECTION, WHATEVER IT BE, ANYTHING WITH THE BUDGET, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE MORE OF A, I THINK, A LEVEL DECISION MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ANY KIND OF INTEREST. SO I'M NOT SAYING ABOUT TONIGHT, IT'S JUST IN GENERAL FOR ME WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET ITEMS OTHER THAN LIKE A FOUNTAIN BREAKING AT A POND, THAT WAS UNEXPECTED. THOSE ARE THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS. I THINK YOU DO, BUT THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY. DO YOU THINK A MISTAKE WAS MADE? IN THE BUDGET, DO YOU THINK A MISTAKE WAS MADE WITH OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING? I THINK THAT'S CLEAR AS DAY THAT THERE WAS MISTAKES IN COMMUNICATION, BUT THERE'S ALSO THERE'S THE AMERICAN LEGION. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO OTHER. FOR ALL I KNOW, THERE MAY BE FIVE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT DID NOT GET COMMUNICATED TO EFFECTIVELY. AND SO FOR ME TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON TWO OR THREE NONPROFITS THAT I HEARD FROM. WHAT DO WE DO IF WE HAVE, LET'S SAY, WE HAVE $40000 LEFT IN OUR BUDGET AND WE DOLE THAT OUT TODAY? AND THEN TOMORROW WE FIND OUT THERE'S THREE MORE CHARITIES THAT WE BECAUSE OUR COMMUNICATION IS POOR, WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE TO THEM. SO THEN WE JUST MADE THE MISTAKE ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS. AND ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS WE HURRY UP AS A COUNCIL. WE CAN'T DO IT NEXT WEEK, BUT WE START THE PROCESS IN MARCH. WE GET THE COMMUNICATION OUT. WE COME UP WITH THAT. THEN WE CAN INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME UP AND PRESENT AND THEN WE CAN DO IT IN, SAY, APRIL OR MAY VERSUS MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT AND FIND OUT WE WE JUST MADE A MISTAKE. WE JUST TRIED TO FIX ONE MISTAKE BY CREATING ANOTHER. I JUST WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE. THE MISTAKE, THE PROCESS, THE DEADLINE WAS THERE. ALL OF THOSE THAT APPLIED IT WAS THEIR BLACK AND WHITE. WE GOT AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET. HOWEVER, THE THREE SENTENCES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US WERE NOT MADE IN AN ACCURATE LIGHT. THAT IS THE MISTAKE THAT I'M REFERRING TO, NOT JUST OPENING THE FLOODGATES TO ALLOW EVERYONE AND ANYONE TO JUST START APPLYING. THAT'S NOT THE MISTAKE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE PROCESS WAS THERE. IT WAS MADE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DISCONNECT THERE IS FOR YOU. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HELP MAKE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HELP ME. I'M OK. I JUST. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REFER YOU INTO THE PACKET. YOU WILL SEE THE SETUP CITY OF HUTTO OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING CRITERIA. THIS IS PART OF YOUR BUDGET POLICY. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE GIVEN AND ALL OF THE NONPROFITS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN TO, OR THE NONPROFITS THAT REGISTER FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. THEY ARE NOTIFIED WHEN THIS PROCESS STARTS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANGIE AS SHE'S STARTING TO HER BUDGET PROCESS. THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF WHAT SHE WILL BE DOING, SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT PART OF IT. WHY IS THIS COMING UP? HOW DID WE COMMUNICATE TO THE NONPROFITS? I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY REGISTER WITH THIS, THEY GOT IT. BUT SO ALL NONPROFITS HAVE TO REGISTER. AND SO IF THEY'RE REGISTERED RIGHT AND THEY ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF HUTTO, THEY HAVE A HUTTO MS.. NOT YES, YEAH, NOT WITH US, BUT AS A AS A NONPROFIT, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY HAVE TO TO SUBMIT GOVERNMENT REGISTRATION AS AN INSTITUTION, AS A NONPROFIT. [02:05:01] SO IS IT AN EMAIL, A POSTCARD, A LETTER? IS IT A FACEBOOK BLAST OF SOME SAYING, HOW DID WE COMMUNICATE TO THEM? I DON'T RECALL HOW WE DID THAT WHEN WENT UP, AND I THINK THAT'S THAT WAS BEFORE I STARTED, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WHEN SO I APOLOGIZE. SO I WAS THIS PAST 20, 20 YEAR WHEN KIND OF ALL OF THIS WAS BORN OUT OF, YOU KNOW, NON PROCESS AND WHATNOT. IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO US STAFF TO JUST REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO HAD APPLIED IN THE PAST. AND SO WE HAVE AN ONGOING RECORD AND IT WAS IN THE PAST CONTROLLED BY FINANCE. AND THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE WHO HAD APPLIED IN THE PAST. AND THAT'S HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE APPLICATIONS. AND NOT EVERYONE WHO HAD APPLIED IN THE PAST WOULD APPLY IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT'S THOSE ARE THE CONTACTS THAT WE HAD. AND NOW KNOWING AND BOBBY, HEY, IT'S ME, CHRISTY, HOW'S IT GOING? SEND ME AN EMAIL AND THAT'S KIND OF SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US, AND WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR NOT ONLY LIKE NONPROFITS, BUT WHO CONTACTS AS WELL. WE'RE CONSTANTLY BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO QUICKLY. THERE'S SO MANY NEW FOLKS COMING THROUGH. I MEAN, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN COME UP WITH A GREAT PROCESS AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IN A MORE FLUID WAY. OK, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MIGHT WHEN WHEN I'M ASKED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, DO YOU THINK THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE? IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE MADE IN TERMS OF BY NOT HAVING A PROCESS. WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO ALL NON-PROFITS. WE JUST REACHED OUT TO THOSE WHO PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED FUNDING, WHICH THEN LEADS ME TO BELIEVE. HOW MANY DID WE NOT HIT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY NONPROFITS ARE IN HUTTO RIGHT NOW. AND IF THERE'S 50 AND WE REACHED OUT TO 10, THAT'S 40 LEFT OVER. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK FROM A MISTAKE THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE CAN INSTEAD OF RUSHING THIS. AND THAT'S ALL I SAY IS THAT. AND I DO KNOW THAT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE HAVE, I'M GOING TO SAY 60 OR 70 THOUSAND KNOW HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE? YOU'RE ABOUT TO TELL US, AREN'T YOU? ISAAC WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME IDEAS FOR PROCESSES THAT WOULD HELP THIS BE MORE STREAMLINE AND BRING IT TO COUNSEL FOR US TO DISCUSS ON THE 17TH OF MARCH? GIVE US A FEW WEEKS. AND I'M JUST SAYING I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, WHEN IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO GET EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE FINANCIALLY. I I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF GIVING OUT MORE MONEY TODAY OR UNTIL THE NEXT CYCLE. I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SOLID IN OUR FINANCES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE. I DON'T WANT THIS PROCESS TO BE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY MESSED UP, BUT JUST AS CONFUSING AS IT HAS BEEN FOR EVERYBODY. SO I THINK IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR STAFF TO COME BACK AND I DON'T KNOW, IT SHOULD BE A WORK SESSION OR WHAT IT SHOULD BE FOR US TO KIND OF DISCUSS HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, LET ME SHARE A COUPLE OF IDEAS, JUST REALLY QUICK, SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY YES, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY SERVE YOU IN YOUR TIME BETTER IF WE WERE ABLE TO OUTLINE WHAT THE PROCESS WAS. WHAT I DO NEED FROM YOU OR WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM YOU, COUNSEL, IS WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE AND CONCERNS ARE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND THOSE TO ME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND THOSE TO STACY AND THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE HERE. IF THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IF YOU DIDN'T EXPRESS THOSE HERE, PLEASE SEND THOSE TO MYSELF OR TO STACY SCHMITT HERE. SO WHAT COUNSEL? WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. WE CAN OUTLINE TO YOU THE PROCESS, AND BASED ON YOUR CONCERNS, WE CAN OFFER YOU SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU CAN DECIDE WHICH IS THE BEST WAY YOU WANT TO GO. HOPEFULLY, ANGIE TELLS US WE HAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE IF SHE TELLS US WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE HAD A HUGE DISCUSSION AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY EASY TO GO AND YOU STARTED WITH ME. I COULD HAVE SAVED YOU SOME TIME. YES, ANGIE. NEXT TIME, JUST YELL UP AND SAY, HOLD ON A SECOND. WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE AVOIDED A WHOLE THE WHOLE THING IF YOU ACTUALLY STARTED WITH ME FIRST. EVEN THE AGENDA ITEM? MAYBE SO ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER IS ONE PERCENT IS A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL NUMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BUDGET. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT CRITERIA, WHEN THAT TEAM WAS GIVEN THAT WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE ONE PERCENT FOR YOU. WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU WITH THAT ALREADY IN THERE. AND THAT'S WHY NOT EVERYBODY GOT WHAT THEY ASKED FOR BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FUND IT. AND YOU CAN OPEN IT UP TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY, AND YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE YOUR LIVES A LOT, LOT HARDER BECAUSE ONE PERCENT OF THE BUDGET IS SMALL AND YOU ALREADY HAVE ALMOST HALF THIS YEAR. ALMOST HALF OF THAT WAS ALREADY COMMITTED BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GIVE TO THE THE CRISIS CENTER, THE HOPE ALLIANCE, THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER AND TO THE HEALTH DISTRICT AND THE HEALTH DISTRICT. WHAT WE PAY THEM IS BASED ON THE POPULATION, SO THAT NUMBER IS GOING UP EVERY YEAR. IN FACT, I'M COMING BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WHEN THEY BUILD US, IT WAS MORE THAN I PUT IN THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE AGREED TO THAT. WE'VE ALREADY PROMISED THAT WE WILL PAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARTNERED WITH THEM AND WE HAVE [02:10:03] AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. SO WE TOOK THOSE NUMBERS. WE KNEW WHAT THOSE THREE AGENCIES KIND OF ESTIMATED WHAT THEY WOULD GET, THE HEALTH CENTER, WE ESTIMATED WE KNOW WE HAVE 15 TO THE OTHERS. AND THEN WE SAID, WHAT'S ONE PERCENT OF THE PROJECTED REVENUE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? AND WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER AND THAT'S WHAT WAS LEFT AND WHAT THEY CAME TO YOU WITH. SO THERE'S NOT ANYTHING LEFT TO BE ALLOCATED. SO AND I SAY THAT'S A VERY HARD DECISION, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR THE EMPLOYEES, I'M SURE, WHO ARE MAKING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO FUND EVERYONE. ONE PERCENT IS VERY SMALL, SO THAT'S A HARD DECISION AND I KNOW THEY LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AREAS WHERE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD CITY SERVICES, YOU KNOW, AREAS THEY WOULD BE TO THE YMCA FOR PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE NOT OFFERING RIGHT NOW OR TO, YOU KNOW THAT THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER, I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION UP HERE FOR YOU GUYS, TOO AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY IN THOSE AREAS. SO BUT THERE IS NO FUNDING RIGHT NOW FOR IT. ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS ASKED FOR IN ONE PERCENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE LEFTOVER WAS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND JUST FOR THOSE WATCHING AND THOSE ON COUNCIL THAT MAYBE CAN'T FIND THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET. SO ONE EIGHTY FIVE WAS ASKED FOR ONE 20 IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ALLOCATE. AND OF THAT, I BELIEVE I REMEMBER VERY SPECIFICALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ALLOCATED ALL 120. BUT RIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS ALREADY ALL ALLOCATED. SO I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE. AND JUST TO SAY THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON THE PROCESS AND MISTAKES WERE MADE. AND I, YOU KNOW, APOLOGIZE WHOLEHEARTEDLY TO THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION FOR THAT MISUNDERSTANDING. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MEALS ON WHEELS FOR BEING HERE. AND I APOLOGIZE TO BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON, THAT WHAT WAS APPROVED WAS NOT FOR THE SALARIES. I THINK A LOT OF US WERE. AND, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT ME ALONE, NOT YOU. I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION DURING THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY CLEAR. AND SO WHEN IT WAS LISTED AS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT WAS CONFUSING. BUT ALSO, I KNOW YOU REACHED YOUR THE PERSON YOU REACHED OUT TO. IT IS MY DEPARTMENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO DO THE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AFTER THE AWARDS. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. AND THE PERSON I HAD ON STAFF AT THE TIME WHO DID KNOW THAT DIDN'T SHARE THAT WITH ME. AND SO WE UNFORTUNATELY SAT ON THAT AND DIDN'T MOVE ON THAT AS FAST AS WE SHOULD. BUT THAT WILL BE REMEDIED GOING FORWARD. AND I DO APOLOGIZE TO THE AGENCIES AND TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE THAT IN A WAY THAT WE SHOULD AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT BETTER NEXT YEAR. SO I WILL OWN THAT, THAT THAT HAPPENED IN MY DEPARTMENT, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO JUST SO COUNCIL KNOWS THOSE THAT WERE FUNDED, I DON'T THINK CHECKS WERE CUT UNTIL JANUARY. CORRECT? CORRECT. WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WERE AGREEMENTS TO BE SENT OUT. WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY CONTRACTS. THE STAFF THAT HAD THAT WAS HERE THAT HAD DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH SOME OF THEM WEREN'T HERE ANYMORE. AND THEN THE ONES THAT WERE DIDN'T SHARE THAT INFORMATION. SO I JUST WANTED TO PAINT THE FULL PICTURE FOR ALL OF COUNCILS THAT WAY. THEY KNOW THAT IT WAS IT WAS LIKE SAYING WE. AND THAT'S WHY THIS CONVERSATION DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT SO THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO BE IMPROVED AND MY DEPARTMENT WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. OPPORTUNITIES? THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MOVE TO TABLE AGENDA ITEM 11.5. WELL, SECOND, YOU SAID 11.5. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I'M ON THE WRONG PAGE. EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE WE JUMPED AROUND. I'M SORRY. YEAH, OKAY. IT'S 11 NINE. A MOTION A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON TABLING 11:09. WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE COMMUNICATED TO US. I KNOW THAT I WAS REACHED OUT TO AS WELL BY THE HUTTO EDUCATION FOUNDATION AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO COME AND AND AND KIND OF CLEAR THAT UP WITH THIS. AND YOU KNOW, WHERE I WAS WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT ANYTHING LEFT OVER FROM THE ONE PERCENT, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TO RECTIFY SOME WRONGS BECAUSE MY DECISION DURING THIS PROCESS WAS BASED ON FAULTY INFORMATION. AND SO I JUST FELT REALLY BAD THAT THAT WAS THE REASON WHY YOU WERE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND SO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME AND AT LEAST TALK TO US ABOUT IT AND HELP US SEE WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE IN THE FUTURE. CLAUDIA, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW IN LIEU OF FUNDING, KNOWING WHAT THE FACTS ARE AS THEY ARE TODAY, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR A PARTNERSHIP WE'D LOVED, WE'D DEFINITELY BE OPEN TO CONSIDERATION OF THAT, I THINK, AND THAT COULD BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, SINCE THAT'S NOT REALLY AN AGENDA ITEM ON THIS AGENDA. THANK YOU, DADDY. AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SAME APOLOGY. I MEAN, THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENT AT ALL. AND SORRY THAT THIS GOT WHERE IT GOT TO. AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF NONPROFITS, I JUST DID A SEARCH ON THE IRS AND THERE'S 215 LISTED IN HUTTO. NOW A NUMBER OF THOSE ARE REVOKED. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A FULL LIST, BUT STILL THERE'S THERE'S WAY TOO MANY TO REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY. SO. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM? I GUESS I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. [02:15:01] SO I THINK I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE TABLING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON A PROCESS, BUT BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE STILL MAY CONSIDER? FUNDING MID-STREAM, I MEAN, THE CITY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND. THE CITY IS. WORKING TO RECTIFY ALL OF OUR ACCOUNTING PRACTICES. SO, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULD VOTE NO TO TABLE IT BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER. THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON. DO WE WANT TO FUND IF WE WANT TO FUND, THEN WHERE DO WE COME UP WITH THE MONEY? DO WE HAVE THE MONEY AND WE NEED TO SET UP PROCESSES? SO TO ME, THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IS IF IF THE COUNCIL IS WANTING TO SET UP THE PROCESSES, WHICH MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS AND THEN. LOOK AT THIS SITUATION AGAIN. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE IN MARCH OR MAYBE APRIL AND ACTUALLY THOSE KIND OF. REQUESTS TO NONPROFITS SHOULD BE GOING OUT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CHASING OUR TAIL, I GUESS POINT OF INFORMATION THEN FOR DADDY, FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, THIS AGENDA ITEM WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE AWARDING THE FUNDS CORRECT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM IF WE EVEN WANTED TO AWARD FUNDS. SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS IN ESSENCE WOULDN'T BE DOING. THAT RIGHT, IT'S JUST ACTION ON THE PRESENTATION. YOU LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO THIS TABLE THAT I WAS I WAS GOING TO OFFER THE. WE JUST DO NO ACTION, AND THEN THAT WAY, THE ITEMS AND WE CAN TABLE INDEFINITELY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AMENDING MY MOTION TO TABLE INDEFINITELY OR IF THE COUNCIL AGREES, YOU CAN JUST TAKE NO ACTION. OK, THAT'S FINE. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, SO THERE'S NO OBJECTION THAT ISAAC. YES, SIR. MANY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ONE OF THESE DAYS, I'M GOING TO REALIZE RAISING YOUR HAND REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. BUT UNTIL THEN, MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WANT FROM STAFF IS FOR US TO IN ESSENCE IN MY MIND, DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PROCESS THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR AND BRING YOU BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO IMPROVE APPROACH THAT IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR. BEARING IN MIND THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, AS WELL AS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE PRESENTERS THIS EVENING. THAT'S THE ACTION WE WANT. YOU WANT US TO COME BACK TO YOU FROM STAFF. I WOULD ASK AND MR. MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED IN MARCH, AND WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT IN MARCH, BUT WE GIVE BE GIVEN A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO DO MARCH, APRIL AND SHARE WITH YOU. WE ARE TRYING TO PLAN THE AGENDAS. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AHEAD AND I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THOSE WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN. JUST IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW TO CONDUCT THE NEXT PROCESS, AND WE CAN PUT A TIMETABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TIMETABLE AND TIME SPAN THAT YOU ALL SPENT LAST YEAR ON THIS. BUT I AM A BELIEVER IN PLANNING SCHEDULES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'LL HAVE A BUDGET SCHEDULE FOR YOU, I BELIEVE, AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO I UNDERSTAND AND CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I TENTATIVELY BASED ON COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON DISCUSSION, MY TENTATIVE WROTE DOWN JUST THE ITEM FOR MARCH 17. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH, I'M SURE IT'S OK IF IF IT BUMPED INTO APRIL, BUT I'VE ALREADY I'VE GOT IT WRITTEN DOWN TO WHERE WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE IT. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND I JUST I GUESS I HAD A THOUGHT ON THAT IS, I MEAN, IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE MOST, IF NOT ALL OF US WERE NOT WANTING TO FUND ANYTHING BECAUSE WE'VE NOW REALIZED THERE IS NO FUNDING AND WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. AT LEAST I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GOING ABOVE THE ONE PERCENT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT MARCH IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, URGENT BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW, MARCH WAS URGENT WHEN WE THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY IN, WE COULD KIND OF MAKE A DECISION IN APRIL, MAY. BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME, I I THINK AS LONG AS WE GET THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE BEFORE WE START THE PROCESS AGAIN, FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND YOU START, YOU'RE STARTING THE YOU'RE STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR US IN MARCH, CORRECT? IF NOT ALREADY. SO I THINK Y'ALL LETTING US KNOW WE STARTED THAT PROCESS. ESTHER, WHEN YOU SET OUT THE ORIGINAL, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER YOU WERE HIRED AS WHEN WE STARTED THE BUDGET PROCESS. I THINK, TO THE ASKING THEM TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION. OKAY, NOW THAT WAS I THINK I WANT TO SAY MAY THAT WE SENT THAT OUT, SO WE WOULD NEED THAT [02:20:04] SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT BEFORE WE COULD SEND OUT, YOU KNOW, GET THE APPLICATIONS ALL TOGETHER AND DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO SEND THOSE OUT. SO WE WILL NEED THAT THAT GUIDANCE BEFORE THEN. SO THAT PRIOR COMMUNICATION THAT HAD COME FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, I'VE BEEN SENT OUT RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS THE MISCOMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION. SO WHAT YOU ALL LET US GET AN OPPORTUNITY AS STAFF IS LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. IT'S HARD TO DO THAT ON THE FLOOR AS WE ALL REALIZE. LET US LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. LET US MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS YEAR. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW WHETHER IT'S THE COUNCIL OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE. 11:09 THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, YOU JUST RECORDED AS NO ACTION. SO ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? I'M FINE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT HERE, NO OBJECTION TO NO ACTION FOR 11:09 IF MY NOTES SERVED ME RIGHT. [9.3. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. 0-2022-001 for the proposed Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning request for the property known as Northstar Hutto Planned Unit Development (PUD), 11.74 acres, more or less, of land, located off of Exchange Boulevard. The land use proposal is active adult 55+ multi-family use. (Second Reading) (Ashley Lumpkin).] THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NINE THREE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 22 ZERO ZERO ONE FOR THE PROPOSED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS NORTH STAR HUTTO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HUD 11.74 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED OFF EXCHANGE BOULEVARD. THE LAND USE PROPOSAL IS ACTIVE ADULT FIFTY FIVE PLUS MULTIFAMILY USE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT YOU HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY. THIS IS THE SECOND READING I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH A FULL PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSAL. NO, I ASKED FOR ITEM TO BE PULLED. THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT I WAS AFRAID WOULD TURN INTO A BIGGER CONVERSATION, AND THAT WAS THAT CAME TO ME FROM THE COMMUNITY. HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THAT THIS STAYS AT 55 AND OLDER BECAUSE OF CONCERN WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS I HEARD WAS SOMEONE THAT WORKS WITH SENIORS. THEY'VE NOTICED A TREND AS A MARKET HAS CHANGED TO WHERE I GUESS THERE'S MORE MONEY IN UNDER FIFTY FIVE YEAR OLD. AND SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN OVER 55 COMMUNITIES AND THEY STARTED MOVING IN REGULAR FAMILIES. AND SO THE QUESTION WAS AND I SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT, BUT IS THAT AN ORDINANCE OR HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS AS AN OVER FIFTY FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IT DOESN'T TURN INTO JUST AN APARTMENT COMPLEX FULL OF 20 YEAR OLDS? I WOULD DEFER TO DOTTIE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE OVER FIFTY FIVE IF THAT'S EVEN LEGAL AS FAR AS THE LAND USE RESTRICTION. RIGHT. THEY USUALLY PUT A LAND USE RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. HMM. BUT THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WOULDN'T COME BACK TO THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE ORDINANCE SIDE THAT WE COULD DO. WELL, CAN WE NOT APPROVE THE SECOND READING UNTIL THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS HELD IN ESCROW WITH THE CITY TO WHERE UPON THE WE UPON THE PASSING OF A SECOND READING, THEN THE CITY CAN THEN GO RECORD THE DOCUMENT. BUT LET US TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW WE CAN PUT THAT PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY OWNER PLACE IT IN THE DEED RECORDS AND PROVIDE A COPY TO THE CITY SO THAT ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S AROUND THAT PROPERTY IS AWARE OF IT. YEAH, BECAUSE IF WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, I HAVE NO ISSUES, I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE MORNING AND WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST AND THEN BRING IT BACK. NOT ON THE 17TH, BECAUSE I THINK STACY IS NOT ON THE 17TH. THE FIRST CONCERN, MAYBE IF YOU FIX IT ANYWAY, I BELIEVE IF WE FIX IT, IF IT CHANGED THE ORDINANCE, WE MAY HAVE TO GO FOR A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING TO MAKE THAT OR WE NEED TO OR. WELL, IT'S NO, IT'S WITHIN THE OK OVER 50, THEN. YEAH, POTENTIALLY WE COULD THEN HAVE IT JUST ON. IT'S IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PUBLISHED THAT WAY. SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL, LET'S JUST MAYBE DO NO ACTION AND STAFF CAN BRING IT BACK WHEN IT'S FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS. ACTUALLY, WE WERE JUST TALKING ON HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN GET IT ALL RIGHT HERE, NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 10 ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON [10.1. Consideration and possible action on resolution R-2022-008 accepting a petition for the creation of a public improvement district for the project known as The Estates of Hutto, calling a public hearing on the creation of a public improvement district, directing the mailing and publication of notice of a public hearing on the creation of a public improvement district, and matters related thereto. (Legal - D. Palumbo)] RESOLUTION OR SDOHOBSH 2022 DASH ZERO ZERO EIGHT. ACCEPTING A PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THE PROJECT, KNOWN AS THE ESTATES OF HUTTO, CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. DIRECTING A MAILING AND PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND MATTERS RELATED THERETO. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. [02:25:06] MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS KEVIN PEARCE. I'M A PARTNER AT CLOSE SINCLAIR. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING JFO HOME ON THE ESTATES OF HUTTO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING TO ACCEPT THE PETITION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S PITT POLICY AND CALLED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MARCH 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE WERE HERE DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT. SO FOR THE COUNCIL'S BENEFIT AND OUR NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBER AND AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY REINTRODUCE THE PROJECT WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE. AND GFL IS BASED OUT OF DALLAS. THEY FOCUS ON EXECUTIVE LEVEL, HIGHER END HOUSING, BRINGING REALLY HIGH QUALITY PROJECTS TO THE AREA. SPECIFICALLY, THEY FOCUS ON VERY HIGH END ARCHITECTURE, VERY MODERN DESIGN, UNIQUE DETAILING, VERY HIGH QUALITY HOMES AND JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM SOME HOMES JUST TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY KIND OF A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING HERE. VERY MODERN ESTHETICS, VAULTED CEILINGS, LARGE OPEN WINDOWS, LOTS OF LIGHT, REALLY EXCEPTIONAL HOUSING THAT RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEONE IN HUTTO WANTS TO MOVE INTO A HOUSING STOCK LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE HERE IN HUTTO TO GO DO THAT. SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS PRODUCT TO THE CITY OF HUTTO. AND AS PART OF THAT, WE ARE REQUESTING A PIT FOR THIS PROJECT, JUST A COUPLE OF KEY NOTES ON THE PROJECT ITSELF. IT'S ABOUT 140. IT'S NOT ABOUT IT IS ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. IT'S A MIX OF 60 FOOT AND 70 FOOT LOTS ARE ESTIMATED. HOME PRICES ARE ABOUT SIX SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND FOR THE SIXTY FOOTS AND SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE 70 FOOTS. WE ESTIMATE THE ANNUAL AD VALOREM TAXES TO THE CITY OF BUILD OUT TO BE A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. ALSO NOTE THAT THE HUTTO ISD WILL BE GETTING APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION IN OUT OF LOREM TAXES. I KNOW WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING, EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITIES AND HUTTO. AND SO THIS PROJECT, LIKE MANY PROJECTS THAT TAKE GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, PUT IN HOUSES, INCREASES THAT AD VALOREM TAX TO GIVE FUNDING TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE CITY. THIS IS A JUST A GENERAL DEPICTION OF WHAT THE PROPERTY IS, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE LAID OUT. IT'S OVER ON THE CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD, 133, THREE AND 132, JUST IN THE NORTHERN QUADRANT OF HUTTO. A COUPLE OF SOME OF THE FUN NUMBERS, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT AS I AM. WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY COMPETITIVE TAX RATE IN THE 3.4 THAT'S BELOW SOME OF THE OTHER KIDS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND IT'S A COMPETITIVE MARKET. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AND REQUESTING A 30 YEAR BOND TERM. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE HIGHER THIRTY FIVE THAT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS BIDS HAVE REQUESTED. JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING WITH THE DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THIS, IT'S TO FUND STUFF THAT SUPPORTS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE STREETS, DRAINAGE, WATER, WASTEWATER, THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO END UP LIVING IN THESE HIGH QUALITY HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE USING EVERY SINGLE DAY. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT THAT A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS THAT ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENTS THAT THAT FUND THESE IMPROVEMENTS. NO CURRENT CITIZEN OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA HAS A SINGLE PENNY THAT COMES OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO PAY FOR THIS PIDS PAY FOR THEMSELVES. IT PAYS NOT ONLY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, IT ALSO PAYS FOR THE CITY'S STAFF TIME AND THEIR CONSULTANTS. SO THERE'S NO FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THE CITY IN THIS PROCESS, BREAKING THIS DOWN INTO SOME REAL NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE IN THE ESTATES OF HUTTO. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BASIC INFORMATION WHAT WE EXPECT THE HOUSES TO GO FOR THE ASSESSMENT THAT WILL BE ON EACH HOUSE, HOW MUCH THEY ANTICIPATE TO BE PAYING PER YEAR, AND THAT'S THAT SECOND TO LAST COLUMN AVERAGE ANNUAL INSTALLMENT. SO FOR A 60 FOOT LOT, THEY WILL BE PAYING THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THIRTY THREE DOLLARS A YEAR IN PIT ASSESSMENTS, AND THAT REPRESENTS ROUGHLY AN EQUIVALENT TAX RATE, ABOUT FORTY EIGHT CENTS. [02:30:01] AS HOUSE PRICES GO UP, THAT EFFECTIVE TAX RATE GOES DOWN BECAUSE IT'S A FIXED NUMBER AS OPPOSED TO A MUD, WHICH IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE HOME VALUE OF THE HOME. PRICES GO UP. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY MORE MUD TAXES AS THE HOME PRICES AND IPID GO UP. THAT ASSESSMENT STAYS THE SAME. IT'S A FLAT NUMBER SUBJECT TO SOME VERY MINOR CHANGES IN ADMINISTRATION COSTS, BUT THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY SMALL. SO EFFECTIVELY, THE PERCENTAGE YOU PAY OF YOUR HOME VALUE IN A BID AS THOSE HOME PRICES GO UP, THAT PERCENTAGE DROPS SMALLER AND SMALLER, MAKING IT MORE COMPETITIVE AS HOME PRICES AND INCREASE. AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TRENDING IN THE AREA, AND WE KNOW WITH ALL THE GROWTH COMING IN THAT IT'S A PRETTY SAFE BET THAT HOME PRICES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND GROW. AND SO THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME FACT THAT WE KEEP. THAT PERCENTAGE THAT THEY PAY LOWER. SO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A COUPLE OF THE KEY DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THE PYD, NAMELY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OUTLINING SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'RE DOING IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO SEPARATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY'S BOND COUNCIL. BART FOWLER HAD BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST REGARDING THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE. SO WE'RE SEPARATING IT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROTECTS THE THE BONDS AS A TAX EXEMPT FINANCING SO THAT THE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON THE THE FINANCING. SO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, I APOLOGIZE. THIS WAS WHEN I ANTICIPATED BEING HERE ON THE 3RD BEFORE THE WEATHER CHANGED MY PLANS. SO FEBRUARY 10TH TODAY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE PETITION AND CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE ALREADY COORDINATED WITH THE NEWSPAPER. NOTICE WILL BE PUBLISHED THIS SUNDAY IN THE TAYLOR PRESS. THE CITIES CHOSEN NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION. WE WILL ALSO BE SENDING NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN LAND IN THE PYD, WHICH AT THIS TIME IS THE PARTY THAT IS REQUESTING THE PYD. SO THAT MEANS ON MARCH 3RD, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR THE CREATION HEARING TO BE HELD AT THAT TIME. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME, SPEAK THEIR MIND ABOUT THE PIN. WE WILL ALSO BE ASKING FOR THE PYD TO BE FORMED. IN ADDITION, WE'LL ALSO BE, I'M HOPING, BRINGING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AGREEMENT TO THE CITY FOR APPROVAL AS THAT AS WELL. AND AS ALWAYS, MY COMMITMENT TO THIS COUNCIL IS THAT IF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AGREEMENT ARE NOT READY, WE WILL NOT ASK FOR THE PERMIT TO BE FORMED AT THAT TIME. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY AND THIS COUNCIL HAVE THE COMFORT OF KNOWING WHAT THE DEAL IS AND WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND NOT JUMPING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES IN PLACE SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. THEN WE CAN APPROVE THE BID. AFTER THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FAIRLY EFFICIENT DOCUMENT PREPARATION PROCESS. THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL BIDS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND I LIKE TO THINK WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER AT THEM. THE CITY'S TEAM IS THE BEST OF THE BEST. THERE'S NO OTHER GROUP OF CONSULTANTS I WOULD RATHER WORK WITH, AND THIS DEAL IS A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROJECT. IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY PORTION THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. THAT KIND OF MAKES THINGS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. WE'RE GOING TO BE STICKING AS CLOSELY TO THE CITY'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FORMS AS POSSIBLE, DEVIATING ONLY AS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND STICKING WITH THAT WITH A, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE PROJECT STICKING TO THE STACY FORMS. WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS PROJECT READY TO GO, READY TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS EARLY THIS SUMMER, WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO GET THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF, GET A GOOD FINANCING SQUARED AWAY AND DELIVER SOMETHING REALLY EXCELLENT TO THE CITY OF HUTTO THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE. AND SO THIS COUNCIL HAS A RESOLUTION BEFORE THEM TONIGHT. WE ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THAT. AND AS A REMINDER AGAIN TO THE COUNCIL AND TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS ALONG THE WAY WHERE THIS COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS, DOCUMENTS AND ORDINANCES. THIS IS THE VERY FIRST STEP. THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES THAT IF THERE IS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROCESS, HAVE CONCERNS. WANT TO DISCUSS ANYTHING. AS ANYONE WHO'S TALKED TO ME WILL TELL YOU, I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH AND CHEW YOUR EAR OFF. SO PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, REACH OUT TO ME. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK PIDS. SO WITH THAT, I THANK THE COUNCIL FOR FOR THEIR ATTENTION, AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS RICK ROSENBERG WITH DPG. THANK YOU, KEVIN. QUESTIONS OR ACTION FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. [02:35:05] I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COULD YOU GO BACK TWO OR THREE SLIDES TO THE HID BENEFIT PAGE RIGHT THERE? ONE MORE SO IN A PID, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO IN A REGULAR PID DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IN A REGULAR DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING STREETS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING DRAINAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WASTEWATER. AND SO IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE THE POTENTIAL PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN HERE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE SEEING DIFFERENT OR WHAT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF HOW IS IT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN JUST A NORMAL? DEVELOPMENT, SURE, THERE ARE REALLY, I WOULD SAY, TWO KEY THINGS THAT MAKE THIS PROJECT PID WORTHY. ONE IS THE. THE DEVELOPER IS ON THIS MAP IF YOU SEE THIS. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE AT THE TOP LEFT, THERE'S THAT KIND OF GRAY STRIP OF ROAD, A RIDE AWAY. THAT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY. HOWEVER, IT IS ALL BEEN DEDICATED AND ARE SET ASIDE FOR A RIDE AWAY EXPANSION FOR COUNTY ROAD. I THINK THAT'S ONE THIRTY THREE I'VE TEND TO CONFUSE MY NORTH AND SOUTH, WHICH IS TAKING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF THE OF THE PROPERTY AWAY, WHICH REDUCES THE THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY TO MAKE THE PROJECT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND SO THE PIT HELPS OFFSET THAT, WHICH ALLOWS THAT NORTH SOUTH ROAD TO GET IMPROVED AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING IN THERE. ADDITIONALLY, JUST THE THE ECONOMICS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE. COSTS THAT GO INTO GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THERE'S NOT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ON THIS LIST WOULD MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS SIMPLY NOT FEASIBLE WITHOUT THE PID, THE QUALITY OF HOUSES THAT WERE INTENDING TO BRING JUST AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE SECOND ONE. ARE ALL THOSE VERY HIGH QUALITY HOMES THAT I SHOWED AT THE VERY BEGINNING? THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE PIT IS BRINGING. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE SOME ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME WASTEWATER SOLUTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY ATTORNEY PUBLIC WORKS TREASURY TO TRY AND HELP ASSIST WITH SOME LONG TERM WASTEWATER NEEDS THAT THE CITY NEEDS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE PID MAKES THAT VIABLE TO OPEN UP THAT WHOLE NORTHERN AREA WITH A LONG TERM WASTEWATER SOLUTION. ANYTHING ELSE? ROSENBERG WITH DPP4, WE JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ONE OTHER BENEFIT. WE KNOW THIS IS A VERY DESIRABLE PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WITHOUT THE PID, THE SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND HOME IS LIKELY NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND. AND IT MAY NOT BE MARKETABLE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. SO THE HOMEOWNERS ARE GETTING A HOME PROBABLY WORTH MORE AT THE PRICE BECAUSE OF THE PIT IN TODAY'S MARKET TO BENEFIT FOR THAT HOMEOWNER. SO I CAN PIGGYBACK, IF I UNDERSTOOD COUNCILMAN GORDON CORRECTLY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT WAS AND IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, YEAH. SO LIKE IF I WAS WANTING TO MOVE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M GOING TO BE PAYING IN AN EQUIVALENT OF EXTRA FORTY EIGHT CENTS EQUIVALENT TAX ON MY HOME, I MEAN, MY FIRST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, WHAT AM I GETTING? WHAT AM I GETTING FOR THAT? FORTY EIGHT? SHOW ME WHAT I'M GETTING FOR THAT 48 CENTS. AND SO IF I HEARD RIGHT, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GETTING IS A LOT NICER HOME. DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? SO I'M GETTING A MUCH NICER HOME THAN I WOULD OTHERWISE. I'M GETTING ACCESS TO COUNTY ROAD 132, WHICH WE KNOW IS KIND OF ULTIMATELY INTENDED TO CONNECT TO 16, 60 NORTH AND SOUTH. AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUR BYPASS. AND SO I GUESS A BENEFIT COULD BE THAT I'VE GOT BETTER ACCESS TO TO BETTER ROADS BECAUSE OF MY PROXIMITY TO 132. AND YOU'RE DEDICATING THAT LAND? THAT'S CORRECT. OK. BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM A HOMEOWNER STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I CAN LIVE IN THE CITY AND PAY, YOU KNOW, EQUIVALENT CITY TAXES, 60 CENTS OR I CAN LIVE HERE AND PAY ALMOST DOUBLE. AND I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE ASKING MYSELF, LIKE, WHY WOULD I MOVE HERE? AND, YOU KNOW, HELP ME KIND OF SELL ME ON THAT? YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT I BRING UP THIS SLIDE. IT'S A COMPETITIVE TAX RATE RANKINGS WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA. A PERSON WHO MOVES INTO THIS HOME IS GOING TO BE. PAYING PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE IN TAXES TO WHAT OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA HAVE, ANOTHER COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING A $2000 PER LOT COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER PROJECTS HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. [02:40:01] THAT'S GOING TO BE CAPTURED IN THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AGREEMENT. WOULD THIS INCLUDE LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN I WHEN I THINK, OF COURSE, I'VE GOT FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN SIENA AND THEIR AMENITIES ARE PHENOMENAL, RIGHT? AND SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT AS A AS A BENEFIT FEE. IF I'M GOING TO LIVE IN THAT, IT'S A MUD, RIGHT? IF I'M GOING TO LIVE IN THAT MUD. WOW. YOU KNOW THAT THEIR SWIMMING POOL IS A LOT NICER THAN THE ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AND YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT NICER AREA, WIDER LOTS AND THE LANDSCAPING IS GREAT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THIS TOO? OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MAYBE UPGRADED AMENITIES AS PART OF THAT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT LISTED IN THAT, THAT LIST OF PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE SIZE OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER KIDS IN THE AREA THAT WERE, THIS IS PROBABLY KIND OF ON THE SMALLER END OF WHAT WE WOULD REALLY SEE IN A PIT IN THIS AREA. COMPARE IT TO SOMETHING LIKE COTTONWOOD CREEK, THE MEADOW, THE MEADOW BROOK PROJECT THAT LENNAR RECENTLY DID. YOU KNOW THEY HAD A LOT OF LARGER AMENITIES THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, SOME PARKLAND, SOME OTHER SIDES FOR THIS AND THAT THEY WERE ALSO ABOUT 10 TIMES LARGER THAN THIS SITE THEY HAD, I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THE ROUND OF 13 HUNDRED LOTS AS OPPOSED TO THE 140 THAT THIS ONE IS BRINGING. AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF A MINIMIZATION THAT YOU SEE IN A MUCH LARGER, LARGER PROJECT, BUT YOU SEE THE THE BENEFIT IN A SUPERIOR HOME A BIGGER LOT. I MEAN, THE BIGGER MINIMUM YOU HAVE. YEAH. SO LOTS IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE ZONING MINIMUM, IT'S OK THAT THAT HELPS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO THE REASON I ASKED THE CLARIFICATION WHEN I THINK OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT, I THINK OF BENEFIT OUTSIDE OF THAT PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER AND MORE OF A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I DO THINK THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR BIGGER LOTS AND DIVERSIFICATION OF OUR HOUSING STOCK AND UNDERSTAND THE $2000 PER LOT THAT WAS KIND OF LAST YEAR'S NUMBER OR THE YEAR BEFORE. SO I THINK AT SOME POINT. THE DEVELOPERS GOT IT. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY HOMES HERE THAT BACK AND WE ONLY BUILD AN 800 A YEAR, TWO THOUSAND SEEM RIGHT NOW, I'M KIND OF THE MINDSET THAT THAT DIDN'T SLOW THINGS DOWN. AND SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL BEING STRAINED. AND SO MAYBE THE NEW NUMBER IS TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED OR THREE THOUSAND OR FOUR THOUSAND, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. BUT A LOT OF WHAT I'M HEARING IS ALL THE BENEFITS TO HELP THE DEVELOPER SELL MORE HOMES, IT'S GOING TO BE A NICER LOOKING HOME. THAT'S GREAT. I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BUILD IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE, THAT'S THAT WAY. RICK SAYS, WELL, IT'S REALLY A NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE THAT YOU GET FOR SEVEN FIFTY. BUT TO ME, THAT'S US HELPING THE DEVELOPERS SELL HOUSES QUICKER BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE PASS THIS SAY, WE GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THEN A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO GO OUT TO EVERYBODY. YOU GET A NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE FOR SEVEN FIFTY. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THIS PIT THING, SO IN MY MIND, I'M LIKE, MAYBE NOT THE BEST SELLING OF THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS SO YOU GUYS ARE DONATING RIGHT AWAY AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WE STUCK IT TO A GUY OFF OF EXCHANGE AND WE NOT ONLY MADE HIM DEDICATE TO RIGHT AWAY, WE MADE HIM OVERSIZE THE ROAD ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE DO. AND WE MADE HIM GIVE US ALL THAT LAND AS WELL. AND. HE GOT IT DONE, AND SO HERE WE JUST GET THE RIGHT AWAY AND I'M THINKING, WELL, A GOOD COMMUNITY BENEFIT MAY BE THAT INSTEAD OF A 30 YEAR PIT, YOU KNOCK IT TO THIRTY FIVE AND INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING A RIDE AWAY, THEN YOU THEN ESCROW MONEY TO IMPROVE THAT ROAD. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T BUILD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE MAY NOT NEED THAT ROAD WIDEN AND EVERYBODY IS REALLY WORKED UP IN ALL THE OTHER ROADS THAT NEED BUILDING. AND SO THE MORE WE BUILD ON HERE, THE MORE WE HAVE TO SPEND. AND SO A TRUE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THIS. A TRUE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLETELY PAYS FOR ITSELF, AND I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT 140 HOMES AT TWO THOUSAND A HOME. WHAT IS THAT 2.8 MILLION? KNOCK KNOCK 80000. I'VE SEEN WORSE. THREE HUNDRED GRAND. YEAH. SO I DON'T THINK THREE HUNDRED GRAND IS GOING TO GET THIS ROAD DONE. AND SO WE JUST BUILT A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD WITH VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES, AND THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO BE EXPECTING NICE ROADS. AND SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN THREE YEARS AND HAVE TO TAKE A ROAD TO CURRENTLY NOW NEEDS WORK AND MAKE THESE PEOPLE HAPPY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN CRITICIZED FOR IS NOT THINKING AHEAD. AND SO I THROW THAT OUT THERE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROCESS TO KEEP GOING. BUT WHEN YOU GET TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME REALLY TOUGH QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSES ACTUALLY PAYING FOR ITSELF BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO OR THAT ISAAC WHOEVER THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO COME THIS AND WANT. AND ALL I HEARD WAS, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEY'RE NOT AS MARKETABLE AND I'M GOING, WELL, I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DEVELOPER ISSUE, NOT NECESSARILY A CITY OF HUTTO ISSUE, [02:45:05] ALTHOUGH WE DO NEED A DIVERSIFICATION OF STOCK. BUT SO JUST SOME THINGS THAT KIND OF CAUGHT ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN UPFRONT WITH YOU EARLY ON, SO YOU'RE NOT SURPRISED LATER ON. I APPRECIATE IT, AND WE'LL WELCOME THE HARD QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE THE BEST KIND. THANK YOU. JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT, SO THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU SAID, ALL THE PID COLLECTIONS ARE MADE FROM THOSE THAT LIVE INSIDE THE PID DISTRICT. THAT'S RIGHT. CAN THOSE? TRYING TO THINK HOW TOWARD THIS, CAN THE MONEY COLLECTED ONLY THEN STAY INSIDE OF THE PEID DISTRICT, THEREFORE KIND OF FURTHER BOTTLENECKING THE REAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT SO SO STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT PIDS PID FUNDS USE BE USED ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENEFIT THE DISTRICT ITSELF. THAT'S REQUIREMENT UNDER CHAPTER THREE SEVENTY TWO OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THERE ARE OCCASIONALLY STUFF THAT CAN BE PAID FOR OFF SITE IF IT IF IT BENEFITS THAT PROPERTY, IN PARTICULAR FOR THE THE ROUGH EQUIVALENT FOR WHAT THAT PROPERTY'S PROPORTIONAL BENEFIT IS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A ROAD THAT IT'S CALLED 50 PERCENT BENEFITED THE THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT WASN'T IN THE DISTRICT. HIT DOLLARS COULD BE USED TO PAY FOR HALF OF THAT ROAD, BASICALLY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS DERIVING 50 PERCENT OF THE BENEFIT OF THAT ROAD, JUST SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY LANGUAGE THAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR, THAT THE FUNDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE LIMITED ONLY TO THE PID INSIDE OF THE PID DISTRICT. JUST JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, I KNOW THAT ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS, MAYBE THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT THAT A LOT OF THOSE FUNDS CAN ONLY BE USED INSIDE OF THAT DISTRICT. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT I THINK THERE, I THINK I MAY BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS NOW. SO THERE'S THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE, WHICH IS THAT LIKE THE DURANGO HAD LIKE $2 MILLION. LENNAR HAD TWO POINT SOMETHING THAT WAS A SEPARATE FEE INDEPENDENT OF MONEY COLLECTED FROM THE PIT THAT WAS MONEY PULLED DIRECTLY OUT OF THE DEVELOPER'S POCKET, TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE BID THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GETS CHAINED TO SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE ELSEWHERE. THAT'S PART OF THE PURPOSE OF US HAVING THIS SEPARATE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AGREEMENT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT CONCERN CAPTURED IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR CONCERN PROPERLY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. I USE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL. OK, AWESOME. SO THE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY POINT, WE CAN JUST MAKE THE DISTRICT BIGGER TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE 1.32, RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE SOME INTERESTING ENGINEERING, SOME AND SOME LEGAL CALCULATIONS, BUT IT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT THAT $2000 BENEFIT. HAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. YEAH. AND I BELIEVE THIS THIS SETS ALSO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LIDDELL WALKER SITE, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S PUTTING IN SOME SIGNIFICANT MONEY FOR ROADS AS WELL. SO I THINK THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE COMING AT IT FROM FROM DIFFERENT WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT NORTH SOUTH ROUTE. BUT YES, THAT ROAD DEFINITELY NEEDS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT. MR PIERCE, HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS PROJECT? PUT MY PETITION REAL QUICK, AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER. IS IT LIKE 11.4? I REMEMBER. I MEAN, IT IS 53.12 ACRES. FOR THE RECORD, HOW MANY WAS IT? FIFTY FIFTY THREE ACRES, OK? DO YOU EVER TAKE A LITTLE CHANGE? THANK YOU. AND I DO LIKE THAT IT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OF HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND HADN'T REALLY HAPPENED. AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH THE SAMSUNG FACTORY AND THE TESLA GIGAFACTORY COMING IN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THAT. YES. EXECUTIVE LEVEL HOUSING, ABSOLUTELY. ONE OTHER BENEFIT WITH THE COST OF SERVICES WOULD BE THE SAME FOR A LOT HERE AS IT WOULD BE A LOT ELSEWHERE. BUT YOU GENERATE A WHOLE LOT MORE TAX REVENUE OFF THE HIGHER PRICE. SO IT MAY HELP IN THE ECONOMICS FOR THE CITY IN DOING ITS BUDGET FOR SERVICES. RICK, WORKING IT IT IS SOMETHING ABOUT WASTEWATER, WOULD YOU MIND TO EXPAND ON THAT OR THERE ARE SOME ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, AND I DON'T WANT TO STEP TOO MUCH ON A PADMA ANGIE. THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH A LOT OF PROPERTIES UP IN THAT AREA. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK WITHOUT KNOWING THE WHOLE STORY. I KNOW I KNOW THERE'S DISCUSSIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE FULL EXTENT ENOUGH THAT I CAN CONFIDENTLY SPEAK TO THAT QUITE YET. AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPENSIVE HOUSES TEND TO HAVE HIGH STANDARDS FOR THE SERVICES THEY EXPECT THEIR GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THEM, SO IT'S IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW. [02:50:01] IT COMES IT GOES BOTH WAYS. POINT WELL TAKEN, I THINK I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE IS SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO KEEP TICKING UP UNTIL WE FIND KIND OF A BALANCE AND DEFINITELY LOOKING AT WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET WORK DONE ON THE ROAD. THIS IS A GOOD THING AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED SOME HELP WITH. I FEEL CALCULATED WITH THE I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE, BUT THE IMPACT FEES FOR TRAFFIC AND ROAD, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON HAND, BUT I CERTAINLY WILL PUT IT TOGETHER AND HAVE IT FOR YOU BY. THAT'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL. YEAH, FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE PLAN OUT IN THE FUTURE. AND KEVIN, IF YOU CAN SEND THAT TO ME, I'LL DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU, JODY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, KEVIN. I HAD A QUESTION TO COUNSEL. DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT ROAD IN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES CURRENTLY DON'T INCLUDE IT? AND SO THE NOTICE IS GOING TO GO OUT WITHOUT THE ROAD IN THERE. WELL, IN IN MY MIND, I WOULD THINK THAT THE DISTRICT, I'M NOT SAYING THE WHOLE 132, BUT DEFINITELY ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DOES IT MEAN WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THE ROAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HARM IN HAVING A DISTRICT COVER THAT ROAD, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND USE MONEY FOR THE ROAD, WHEREAS IF WE SHORT OURSELVES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND BE TOLD LATER ON. SORRY, THE DISTRICT DIDN'T INCLUDE IT. UM, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST ANSWER FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT I DO KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS AT A POINT WITH HOUSING WHERE WE COULD BUILD TEN THOUSAND HOMES NEXT YEAR AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AND IF WE DON'T BUILD ANY HOMES NEXT YEAR. WELL, IT ALMOST HELPS US WITH SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE, SO THE BALANCE FOR ME IS HOW DO WE MAKE IT TO WHERE THERE'S EQUAL PAIN FOR THE CITY AND THE STRESS AND EQUAL PAIN ON A DEVELOPER TO GO? BOY, I DIDN'T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY IN HUTTO AS I HOPED, BUT AT LEAST I GOT THEM DONE IS WE HURRY UP AND GET ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MORE HOMES, AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR ALL THE SERVICES BECAUSE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER, THORNTON SAID, YOU DON'T BUY A MILLION DOLLAR HOME AND LIKE TO DRIVE OVER POTHOLES. SO THAT'D BE THE FIRST ROAD FIXED WHEN REALLY IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE THE LAST ROAD FOR THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO DO THAT, NOT IF IT'S LIKE A SIMPLE THING YOU GUYS CAN DO OR. THEY WOULD. IF THERE'S A. ISD OFFSIDE IMPROVEMENT OR YEAH, YOU WOULD THE PID COULD PAY ITS PROPORTIONATE SHARE WITHOUT HAVING TO BE IN THE DISTRICT. RIGHT. SO IS THAT? YES. BUT THAT WOULD INCREASE THE WAY YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE CAN WE CAN GO UP TO IS $8 MILLION. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE FORECASTING ABOUT A $6.2 MILLION BOND. SO THERE'S A WE HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE TO GO UP AS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT GOES UP. THERE ARE SOME OTHER KIND OF CASCADING EFFECTS THAT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE IF THERE ARE COSTS THAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR AND THE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE US TO GO UP TO THAT AMOUNT, WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY INCREASE THE. THE BOND THAT WE ISSUED, AND I PERSONALLY DON'T MIND ABOUT A 35 YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE TO SEE THE END OF IT ANYWAY. AND SO WHETHER IT BE 30 OR 100 YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE, WHETHER IT BE FIVE OR 10 YEARS MOVED TO ANOTHER HOME, ANOTHER PERSON IS DOING IT AS LONG AS IT PAYS FOR ITSELF, THEN I'M ALL ABOUT BUILDING HOMES. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, IF STEPH COMES BACK AND SAYS IT JUST. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE ACCREDITED TO THE CITY IN ANY WAY. THEN I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF REWORK THE NUMBERS AND I KNOW RICK'S GET IT. FINE TUNING AND MASSAGING, IT SOUNDS SO, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, I WOULDN'T HOLD UP THE PROCESS FOR THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION IN MARCH MAYBE ABOUT. WE HAVE TIME TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE FUN DETAILS, AND WE'LL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S PIT ADMINISTRATOR AND FINANCIAL ADVISER AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THEY ARE EXCITED TO RECOMMEND TO YOU. ACTION FROM COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I MOVED TO APPROVE 10 ONE IS PRESENTED. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO, APPROVING 10 ONE HAS PRESENTED TWO, WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO WE ARE. THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, NOT CREATING IT, BUT ACCEPT THE PETITION AND THEN ALSO CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THOSE AGAIN WILL BE PUBLISHED THIS SUNDAY FOR THE MARCH 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING. [02:55:04] OK. AND THE LETTERS WILL BE SENT OUT TO THE LANDOWNERS. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN DROPPED IN THE MAIL FOR TOMORROW. OK. GOOD THING WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT, HUH? WE WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE RUN A CONDOM AND IT'S GOING TO ONE PERSON, SO NO HARM DONE RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON HIGH. COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON I MR. SNYDER I COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO I. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY I COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON I. A MOTION PASSED THE SEVEN ZERO, THANK YOU, COUNSEL, THANK YOU. THANKS, KEVIN. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11 ONE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE [11.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments. ] APPOINTMENTS, RE APPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. AND WE HAVE RANDALL CLARK SET TO SPEAK. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND LAST MONTH WE HAD TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ARE OUT WITH COVID. WE'VE HAD ONE PERSON RESIGN AND SOMEONE MOVED OUT OF HUTTO. SO WE'RE DOWN TO MEMBERS. A CURRENT, AN ACTUAL MEMBER AND A ALTERNATE. SINCE IT'S A LEGISLATIVE BODY, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HIGHER QUORUM NUMBER THAN FOUR. SO WE HAD TO CANCEL LAST MONTH AND IT'S HOLDING UP A PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. SO I'M WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 23RD. SO YOU HAVE A STAFF, A COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 17TH THAT I SEE TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, BUT I'M ASKING TO THE PUBLIC, PLEASE. IT'S A THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR IS WHAT WE KIND OF NORMALLY MEET. IT IS MONTHLY, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MANY MEETINGS, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED PEOPLE TO SERVE. IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START LEARNING ABOUT THINGS IN THE CITY AND TO BE INVOLVED, AND ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS IS AN ALTERNATE. SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS WE DON'T MEET QUORUM. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT OUT. WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS AND Y'ALL CAN FILL IT NEXT WEEK SO THAT THEN WE CAN MEET ON THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY. THANK YOU. THANKS. OK. ALL RIGHT, FROM OUR EMPLOYMENT COMMITTEE, DO WE HAVE ANY? BUT YES, WE HAVE YEAH, WE HAVE ONE. SO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MET THIS PAST WEEK, INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION, WAS INCLUDED IN THE INTERVIEW. AND SO WE INTERVIEWED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UNANIMOUSLY NOMINATE LACEY RANSON HUDSON TO SERVE ON THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. LACEY RANSON, HUDSON, YEAH. WAS THAT A MOTION? YES. MY SECOND. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECOND I'VE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, EXCUSE ME, APPOINTING LACEY RANSONE HUDSON TO DENY COMMISSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HARRY, NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAYOR SNYDER I. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO, I COUNCIL MEMBER HALA I. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY I COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON I COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON I COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON I. A MOTION PESA SEVEN ZERO. I JUST LIKE TO ASK THE COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO FILL IN TWO SPACES FOR THE 2040 COMMITTEE NOW, SINCE MR. WALKER HAS RELOCATED OUT OF STATE AND MR. ALLEN'S RESIGNATION. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IN THE NEXT 20 40, ISN'T HE? BUT BUT JUST IF WE COULD HAVE THAT ON THE RADAR, I WOULD SUGGEST ALSO, CAN WE PLEASE PULL THE PARKS BOARD AND SEE IF ANY OF THEM ARE INTERESTED? THAT'S ONE AREA THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ORIGINALLY, AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO ADD. GOOD POINT. MM HMM. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS GOING TO BE. MY QUESTION IS I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHETHER THAT THOSE APPOINTMENTS WENT THROUGH THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY DO. MS. PERRY STILL HERE? OK. RIGHT, ANY OTHER ACTION FOR A LOVED ONE? YEAH, HAD ONE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROSE WAS THE LIAISON FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T THINK WE REPLACED THAT, DID WE? OH NO, I WOULDN'T VOLUNTEER FOR THAT IF THAT'S OK WITH THE COUNCIL. NO OBJECTIONS. THE OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL. I DON'T THINK WE VOTE ON THAT, RIGHT? WE JUST SAY, OK, WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS. [03:00:04] ALL RIGHT. MIKE, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO ASK THIS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THE SEES? WHENEVER WE DO LIKE LEAVES ON REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO GET ANY UPDATES FROM LG? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. GEORGE COULD TELL US THE LINKS ARE BASICALLY. ACTUALLY, I'M THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE LDCS. AND SO THERE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COTTONWOOD. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD RIVER CREEK MEET TO REPLACE COUNCIL MEMBER. WELL, WE DID PUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM MEET TO GET A CHAIR. BUT THE CHAIR COULD COME AND MAKE THAT REPORT. OK. IS THERE MUCH TO GIVE ON THIS, OR IS IT MORE JUST LEGAL TYPE? YEAH, IT'S MOSTLY LEGAL. WE DID APPOINT BOARD MEMBER IRIS MENDEZ TO BE THE LITIGATION REPRESENTATIVE. HE WAS ABLE TO COMMIT THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE'LL SEE. OK. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. YOU DON'T REALLY EVER HEAR VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT TODAY AT NOON. GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 11 TO PRESENTATION OF THE CITY. WHAT HAPPENED? QUICK POINT. A REMINDER, IF YOU WILL. ON THE TOUR'S APPOINTMENT FOR MYSELF. EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO IT MAY BE A GOOD TIME TO REAPPOINT OR FIND A NEW APPOINTEE FOR THE TOURIST BOARD, ONE WHICH IS APPRECIATE THAT, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, WE'RE ALSO STILL WAITING FOR US TO MEET. RIGHT. THE TEACHERS BOARDS, I DON'T THINK THE TERMS BOARDS GO THROUGH THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, RIGHT? EDC DIDN'T REMEMBER WE MADE A DECISION THAT EDC WOULDN'T. THEY WOULD FOLLOW THEIR OWN RULE AND I THOUGHT TERS BOARDS HAD THEIR OWN APPOINTMENT PROCESS. IS THAT WHAT WE DECIDED? THE COUNCIL APPOINTS FOR THE TOURIST BOARD? YEAH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO. WE TALKED ABOUT NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD JUST APPOINT OR WHATEVER THE BYLAWS SAID, AND WE DO HAVE THAT ON THIS ITEM AS A POTENTIAL. IS THAT A MOTION TO REAPPOINT? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT DERRICK HUDSON, WHO IS THE SECOND ME. OK, TOUR'S BOARD IS IT? WE'RE NUMBER ONE. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE WHERE ALL THE TERMS UP NOW ARE JUST. NO JUSTICE. RIGHT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY REAPPOINTING RIG CUTS INTO TERS BOARD NO. ONE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON I COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON I. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON I COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY I. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO I. MS. SNYDER I. BUSH AND PASSED THE SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 11 TO PRESENTATION OF THE CITY FINANCIALS FOR THE MONTH OF [11.2. Presentation of the City Financials for the Month of December as well as the Monthly Investment Report as Required by the Fiscal and Budgetary Policy. (Angie Rios) ] DECEMBER, AS WELL AS THE MONTHLY INVESTMENT REPORT AS REQUIRED BY THE FISCAL AND BUDGETARY POLICY. WELCOME BACK. GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT THIS DID NOT MAKE LAST MONTH'S I WAS ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT GOT COVID AND SO THINGS GOT A LITTLE BEHIND IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, SO I APOLOGIZE THAT THIS DIDN'T MAKE IT TIMELY. SO. SO WE'RE A QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR WITH THE DECEMBER FINANCIALS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO COMMISSIONER GORDON, YOU'D ASKED ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON ABOUT DOING LOOKING AT THE AVERAGES. AND SO WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT THE LAST THREE YEARS OF REVENUE COLLECTIONS AND EXPENDITURES FOR EACH MONTH, AND WE CAME UP WITH AN AVERAGE. AND THEN WE APPLIED THAT TO THE BUDGET. I HAVE IT HERE IN QUARTERS BECAUSE IF I DID IT BY MONTH, THIS CHART WOULDN'T BE IRENE. IT WOULD LOOK TERRIBLE. SO THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER HERE WE TOOK THE BUDGET, TOOK THAT AVERAGE. AND BASED ON THE LAST THREE YEAR AVERAGE, WE SHOULD WE WOULD EXPECT TO COLLECT THE $10 MILLION IN REVENUE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE 11.3. SO WE'RE DOING GOOD BASED ON, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT, THAT AVERAGE THAT YOU HAD THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE QUARTER ARE AT 3.5 COMPARED TO THE BUDGET, HISTORY WOULD HAVE BEEN 4.4. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. OK. I SAW THAT. I THOUGHT, YES, YES, I WAS LOOKING FOR. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE BROKE IT DOWN BASED ON THE LAST THREE YEAR AVERAGE, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO USE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. SO BUT THAT WILL IT WILL PROVIDE THAT AND I DO HAVE IT MONTHLY. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE CLOSER. BUT LIKE I SAY, TRYING TO PRESENT IT DOWN TO THAT LEVEL IS VERY DIFFICULT. [03:05:03] SO. AND THEN IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE REVENUE THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER, YOU CAN SEE DURING THE START FLIPPED A LITTLE BIT. THE AD VALOREM TAXES REALLY JUMPED UP AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD IN DECEMBER WHICH IS NORMAL, WE COLLECTED A $7.5 MILLION OF AD VALOREM TAX. PEOPLE WERE PAYING TO GET IN BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THEIR TAXES, GET IT ON THEIR TAX RETURNS. SO THAT KIND OF FLIP THIS CHART AROUND A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT AND IT WILL SHIFT AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR COLLECTING OTHER OTHER ITEMS. BUT. SO OUR BIGGEST MONTH FOR AD VALOREM, WHICH IS IT'S ALWAYS DECEMBER. EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT, THIS ACTUALLY IS LIKE RIGHT ON PAR FOR BUDGET RIGHT NOW, SO KIND OF THE WAY THE BUDGETS ALLOCATED WITH THE POLICE AND THE DIFFERENT SERVICES. SO EVERYBODY'S JUST KIND OF ROCKING ALONG AND PERSONNEL, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT ONE'S THE BIGGEST. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NORMAL COST THAT'S RECURRING ALL THE TIME. BUT EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO THEIR PART, YOU KNOW, GET THE ITEMS DONE THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET AND WORKING TO DO THAT. SO THE EXPENDITURES ARE KIND OF LINING UP. WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING UNUSUAL THERE. YOU WILL SEE SIXTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE BUDGET IS PERSONNEL SO THAT THIS CHART IS AGAIN RIGHT ON PAR WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE FOR RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE NEXT BIGGEST AREA IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH IS AGAIN THE SECOND BIGGEST PART OF THE BUDGET. SO NOTHING UNUSUAL THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN THIS. OK, ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT GRAPH. SURE. SO WE'RE ABOUT WHAT, 30 POSITIONS UNDERSTAFFED RIGHT NOW? WELL, I GUESS BASED ON BASING THAT ON WHAT WE LAID OFF OR WHAT WE KNOW BASED ON WHAT OUR BUDGET PHDS WERE. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THAT MANY THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY LATE 12. NO, I THINK WE'RE MORE LIKE 20 RIGHT NOW AND SOME OF THAT'S BASED ON VACANCIES BECAUSE OF THE HIGH TURNOVER WE'VE HAD, LIKE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THAT. SO WE HAD BUDGETED FOR 10 FTES, THREE TEAS AND THEN THE FOUR NEW POLICE RANKS. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR. RIGHT. BUT WHAT IF WE LOSE? THAT'S THE NEW FTES. BUT RIGHT RIGHT NOW WITH CONSIDERING THE NEW FTES WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE FILLED SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS, BUT THEN WE DO HAVE VACANCIES IN SOME OTHER AREAS. SO WE'RE MORE I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, SO. SO SHOULD OUR WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS IS SO FOR SAY, WE'RE IN THE MID TO LOW RANGE ON OPEN POSITIONS. SHOULD OUR PERSONNEL BUDGET BE, IS THAT A COUPLE OF SLIDES AGO YOU HAD IT TO WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE OUR INCOME WAS UP, BUT OUR EXPENDITURES WERE DOWN BY ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS. IS THAT A RESULT OF JUST BASICALLY WE'RE NOT PAYING PEOPLE THAT SOME OF IT IS PERSONNEL COSTS, BUT SOME OF IT IS. WE DO HAVE SOME LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPENDED A LOT OF MONEY, SOME OF THAT ROAD WORK THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET AND THE SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THAT THAT'S JUST GETTING STARTED. SO BECAUSE THOSE LARGER PROJECTS HAVE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF EXPENDITURES, THAT'S ALSO KEEPING SOME OF THAT DOWN RIGHT NOW, WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THAT. SO BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE NEW PERSONNEL HAVE STILL NOT BEEN FILLED YET. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND THEN OTHER VACANCIES. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT OUR SALES TAX CHART HERE, SO SO FAR FOR THE YEAR WE'VE COLLECTED. OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER SHOULD ACTUALLY COME OUT. WE'LL RECEIVE IT TOMORROW, I BELIEVE. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL TRENDING UP, WHICH WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON ON THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THIS AND YOU GUYS ALL KNOW BECAUSE YOU SHOP IS INFLATION. SO AND IT'S A BIG STORY. IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS. YOU KNOW, INFLATION'S UP AROUND THE SEVEN PERCENT RANGE BACK IN THESE MONTHS. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UNDER SEVEN. I MEAN, IT'S EVEN HIGHER NOW FOR THEY ANNOUNCED IT TODAY. TODAY'S NEWS NUMBER WITH 7.63. THAT WAS JANUARY CPI. SO THAT INFLATION RATE, SO A LOT OF THAT WHEN YOU START FACTORING THAT IN, PEOPLE ARE STILL SHOPPING IT AT THE LOCAL STORES, YOU KNOW, THE GROCERY STORE AND THE BUILDING SUPPLY STORES AND THOSE THINGS. BUT THOSE THINGS ARE BUYING. THEY'RE NOW COST MORE MONEY. SO THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO A LOT OF THIS. AND THAT'S NOT MY OPINION. WE DO PAY A COMPANY THAT DOES ANALYSIS ON THE SALES TAX, AND SO THEY DO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SALES TAX AND KIND OF DO THAT. AND SO THEY HAVE KIND OF TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT TO TO SEE WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. ALSO A GROWTH IN OUR POPULATION. SO WE'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE OUT SHOPPING, SPENDING MORE MONEY AS ADDING TO THAT. AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME INTERESTING ONE OFFS ALSO. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH ALL OF THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE WITH THE HOMES. SO WE'RE SEEING SOME ONE OFFS FROM MONTH TO MONTH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN OCTOBER THERE THAT MADE THAT ONE JUMP SO SIGNIFICANTLY WAS LIKE A ONE OFF ONE TIME PAYMENT FROM BUILDING MATERIALS BEING SHIPPED HERE FOR SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. IT DEPENDS ON WHO THEY BUY FROM AND WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE ORDERING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DO WE GET THE TAX OR ARE THEY ORDERING IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? YOU KNOW, IS THAT OTHER CITY IN THE TAX BECAUSE THEY'RE BUYING IT HERE? [03:10:02] YOU KNOW, THE SALES TAX RULES ARE A LITTLE CRAZY. SO THOSE OBVIOUSLY WERE ORDERED AND SHIPPED HERE AND WE GOT THE BENEFIT OF THE TAX, WHICH WE DON'T ALWAYS GET BASED ON THOSE BUILDING MATERIALS. SO WE'RE SEEING SOME SOME ODDITIES LIKE THAT THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. BUT A LOT OF IT'S JUST INFLATION AND GROWTH IN OUR POPULATION SEEMS TO BE THE MAJORITY OF IT IN THE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE TAX REVENUE INCREASE THAT WE'RE SEEING. THE MAYOR A FEW DAYS AGO SAID THAT IT WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S FROM INFLATION AND FROM THE FEW ODDITIES WE'VE HAD AND THEN JUST GENERAL RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. WE'RE SEEING SOME I MEAN, SOME OF IT IS SOME COMMERCIAL GROWTH, BUT IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN THERE. I MEAN, IT IS A SMALL BECAUSE WE CAN SEE NEW TAXPAYERS AND IT HAS SOME CONTRIBUTION, BUT IT'S IT'S NOT THE BIG, THE BIG PIECE OF IT. ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO CALCULATE THE PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT WOULD HAVE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SALES TAX REVENUE INCREASE? I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SOME REPORTS. THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THAT HAS SOME ABOUT NEW TAXPAYERS OR ONE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S HOW I'M ABLE TO SEE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE LIKE ONE OFF THINGS SO THAT THEY HAVEN'T PAID BEFORE. LIKE THIS ONE PARTICULAR BUILDING MATERIALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, YES, SO WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT AND SEE THERE'S I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS WE HAVE IS EXTENSIVE, SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT. I MEAN, EVEN JUST THE NEW TAXPAYERS MONTH TO MONTH, IT'S LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT PAGES OF DATA. SO BUT YES, SOME MORE TIME COULD. I COULD GO THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A BENEFICIAL REPORT FOR US TO MAYBE LOOK AT QUARTERLY OR BIANNUAL. WELL, I CAN'T PROVIDE YOU THE BECAUSE I CAN'T DISCUSS BY STATE LAW THE INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYERS SO WE CAN LOOK AT WE CAN TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIES AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I CAN BRING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION TO YOU. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TRENDS FOR THAT. THEN THAT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE. THEY HAVE SOME GRAPHS IN THIS, THIS COMPANY, ACTUALLY, I SHOULD SAY THE CITY DOESN'T PAY FOR IT. THE EDC PAYS FOR IT. SO FOR THIS WONDERFUL TREND, THIS WONDERFUL COMPANY THAT THAT GETS THAT INFORMATION AND DOES THAT FOR US AND IT'S IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL. SO HOW CAN I MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY IS LIKE THE SALES TAX NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH THE INFORMATION. NOW WE'RE GETTING IT, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE AS WE ONE OF THE THINGS I'M USING IT FOR IS AS WE ARE STARTING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY BE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT I BELIEVE THE SALES TAX WILL BE, YOU KNOW, AS WE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, WHAT KIND OF PROJECTIONS DO WE WANT TO DO? AND SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT FACTORS ARE MAKING UP THESE INCREASES SO WE CAN KIND OF GET A GOOD IDEA OF THAT. SO AS PART OF MY PRELIMINARY BUDGET STUFF I'VE BEEN, I'VE SPENT A LITTLE TIME ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. AND SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT AND YOU KIND OF MENTIONED IT SO. IT FOR ALL THE ONLINE PURCHASES. ALL THE AMAZON PACKAGES THAT I SEE BEING DELIVERED ON MY STREET EVERY DAY TO MY HOUSE HALF THE TIME, WHO PAYS THE SALES TAX? THE IS IT ON THE RECEIVING END IS WHERE THE SALES TAX IS CALCULATED AND OR A LOT OF IT, IT IS SO LIKE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PERSON THE COMPANY THAT'S WORKING WITH AMAZON. SO LIKE AMAZON HAS A BIG HOLDING FACILITY IN PFLUGERVILLE, BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THEY DON'T GET NECESSARILY ALL THE TAX ON IT BASED ON THE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE MOVING BECAUSE IT'S JUST A HOLDING FACILITY. SO THERE'S HOLDING THOSE PRODUCTS THERE. IT THEN COMES BACK TO THE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SHIPPING FOR THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH. SO DO THEY HAVE A PRESENCE IN THAT CITY? DO THEY HAVE A RETAIL STORE? DO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF THAT IS GETTING THE TAXES GOING TO WHERE THOSE ITEMS ARE SHIPPED TO SHIP TO? OK. SO WE ARE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THAT A LOT. WE ARE SEEING SOME OF THAT. YES, SIR. SO. YES. AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT WHO AMAZON IS WORKING WITH. OKAY. BUT. YOU KIND OF SEE THAT SALES TAX HAS BEEN TRENDING UP OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THIS YEAR COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO WE ARE STILL ON THAT UPWARD UPWARD MOVEMENT THERE. SO AND THE UTILITIES, AS WE KNOW, ARE GROWING NEW CUSTOMERS. WE ALL SEE THE HOUSES BEING BUILT AND PEOPLE MOVING IN. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE WELL OVER A THIRD OF THEIR REVENUE FOR THE THROUGH THAT FIRST QUARTER, YOU KNOW, OVER THE 25 PERCENT THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. SO THAT GROWTH IS STILL STILL THERE AND GOING STRONG. BUT AS SUCH, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES. WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR TO KIND OF OFFSET, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THAT EXTENSIVE GROWTH. SO. BUT UTILITY FUN ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A STRONG FUN BALANCE AND IT'S BEEN DOING WELL SO THAT THEY'RE KIND OF PRIMED TO AS WE GO INTO THIS GROWTH. SO. AND THEN IN YOUR PACKET IS THE FULL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DETAIL OF EVERYTHING AND THE INVESTMENT REPORT AND ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. AND I HAVE A QUESTION I KNOW THE MAYOR KIND OF HAD ALLUDED TO IT WITH THE EXPENDITURE [03:15:04] ACTUAL AND THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET, SOME OF THAT GAP IS MAYBE FROM EMPLOYEES IN THOSE POSITIONS THAT AREN'T FILLED. I JUST. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE LARGEST FACTOR THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW I JUST DON'T WANT TO FALL INTO THE SAME TRAP, NOT TRAP, BUT SAME THING THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAD THE FUNDS AND WE DIDN'T SPEND THE MONEY AND THERE WERE SO MUCH THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE IMPROVED IN THE CITY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IF WE'RE ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR WHICHEVER PROJECTS THAT AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THAT'S NOT JUST ON YOU WHATSOEVER, YOU JUST KIND OF MANAGE THE FUNDS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STAYING ON TOP OF WHAT FUNDS WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SPEND IN THIS QUARTER. RIGHT. THOSE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY BEING FOLLOWED UP AND FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THEM ON WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR. SO I KNOW THE EMPLOYEES DO CONTRIBUTE SOME TO THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T. PROJECTS DON'T JUST KIND OF FALL TO THE WAYSIDE AND WE KIND OF SEE WHO EXPENDITURE ACTUAL IS, YOU KNOW, DOWN. THAT'S GREAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE BUDGETED THINGS FOR A REASON. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A HEALTHY BALANCE THERE. AND EXPENDITURES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TRENDS ARE A LITTLE TRICKY. SO WHEN YOU GO BACK, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THAT QUARTER, YOU KNOW, DURING ONE YEAR, MAYBE WE HAD A BIG EXPENDITURE AND THEN WE DIDN'T IN OTHERS. AND SO IT CAN START TO SKEW, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THAT. BUT WE DID HAVE YOU KNOW, OF THE 10 NEW POSITIONS, FULL TIME POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, ONLY HALF OF THEM ARE FILLED. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A QUARTER OF THE YEAR NOW THAT THOSE HAVE SAT THERE EMPTY. SO THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THE MAYORS CORRECT THAT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SALARIES AND THEN WE HAVE LOST PERSONNEL SAY, LIKE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME SALARY SAVINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE THAT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE THAT ARE SITTING, YOU KNOW, TURNOVER SAID, YOU KNOW, NATURE OF THE BEAST, UNFORTUNATELY, IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. SO THAT'S THAT MEAN, ESPECIALLY IN GOVERNMENT. SO THAT'S NORMAL. THE OTHER THING IS WE ARE WORKING. I CAN TELL YOU, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PROJECTS AND WE DID HAVE WE DID MEET WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT AFTER IN JANUARY AND EARLY PART OF FEBRUARY HERE TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR BUDGETS THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID IS, OK, WE HAVE THESE ITEMS BUDGETED. AND SO IF WE BUDGETED THESE PROJECTS WHERE YOU AT? SO MATT AND I AND STACY ALL SET WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND TALKED ABOUT, OK, WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND SO SOME OF IT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, SOME OF IT WAS NEEDING THE STAFF IN PLACE TO START GETTING THAT STUFF OUT AND DONE. BUT WE, YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL OF ESPECIALLY THE DIRECTORS AND PEOPLE IN PLACE AND MOVING SOME OF THAT. BUT WE DID MEET AND TALK THROUGH THAT, AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS MOVING ALONG ON THAT. SO. AWESOME. THANK YOU. SURE. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS GENERATED FROM THAT DISCUSSION, SO LET'S SAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE DOWN EIGHT PEOPLE. RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE SAVING THAT MONEY FROM NOT HAVING TO PAY THOSE, THOSE SALARIES. BUT ARE WE EATING INTO THAT BY PAYING OVERTIME FROM FROM OTHER OFFICERS THAT ARE THAT ARE NEEDING TO COVER THOSE SHIFTS? I MEAN, IS THAT KIND OF. IT DOES. IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE. BUT YES, THERE WILL. THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL OVERTIME TO HELP COVER SOME OF THAT, BUT IT'S NOT 100 PERCENT OF WHAT'S NOT BEING PAID OUT. SO OK, THE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF ARE REALLY GOOD AT TRYING TO MANAGE AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE MAYBE JUST ON THE WEEKEND OR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT EVERY DAY, ALL THE TIME. OK, GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANKS, ANGIE. SURE. I GUESS WE'LL SEE YOU HERE IN JUST A SECOND, RIGHT? YEAH. ITEM 11 THREE. [11.3. Presentation of Bond Review by BrooksWatson & Co., regarding review of bond expenditures related to the following debt issuances: 2016 General Obligation Bond, 2017 Certificates of Obligation, 2019 Certificates of Obligation, and 2019 General Obligation, with discussion and possible action. (Angie Rios). ] IS NEXT PRESENTATION. BOND REVIEW BY BROOKS WATSON AND COMPANY REGARDING REVIEW OF BOND EXPENDITURES RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING DEBT ISSUANCES 2016 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND 2017 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION 2019 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION IN 2019 GENERAL OBLIGATION WITH DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION SO YOU REMEMBER YOU TEST BROOKS WATSON, THE ACCOUNTING FIRM WITH GOING THROUGH AND REVIEWING THOSE. JOHN WATSON IS HERE FROM THE FIRM TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE REVIEW, WHAT THEY FOUND OUT AND WHAT THEY SAW DURING THAT. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM AND LET HIM GO THROUGH HIS RESULTS, SIR. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, ANGIE. YEAH, SO LIKE ANGIE SAID, I LOOKED OVER THE BOND PROCEEDS AND SPENDING RELATED TO THOSE FOUR ISSUANCES. IF SORRY, MS. SECOND HERE TO GET THE FEEL OF THIS HERE. OK, SO PURPOSE OF WHAT WE DID WAS TO EVALUATE THE DISBURSEMENTS FOR THESE BONDS AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE SPENDING WAS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE BOND AGREEMENTS OR IF THERE WERE ANY ERRORS. AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN A SECOND HERE. OUR SCOPE OF TESTING SO TOTAL PROCEEDS GENERATED FROM THOSE ISSUANCES WAS ONE HUNDRED AND [03:20:03] NINETEEN MILLION EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND CASH DISBURSEMENTS FROM ACCOUNTS RELATED OR ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND 6.94 OF THAT POPULATION. WE TESTED 380 DISBURSEMENTS, WHICH CAME TO ONE HUNDRED THIRTEEN MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR THOUSAND FIVE THIRTY EIGHT MADE UP ABOUT 95 PERCENT OF THOSE DISBURSEMENTS. SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE. OUR TESTING CONSISTED OF VOUCHING TO THIRD PARTY SUPPORT CONSISTING OF INVOICES AND PAY APPLICATIONS FROM FROM THOSE THIRD PARTIES DOING THE SERVICES AND THEN THE PROOF OF PAYMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WHOEVER WHOEVER GENERATED THAT INVOICE, THAT THEY WERE IN FACT PAID. SO THAT IS THE TESTING THAT WAS PERFORMED. SO AGAIN, GO OVER THE RESULTS OF THAT TESTING. THE SAMPLE WAS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN MILLION. I MENTIONED THAT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, DISBURSEMENTS THAT WERE PROPERLY SUPPORTED. SO THIS WOULD MEAN THAT SUPPORT THAT I INDICATED WAS PROVIDED IN FULL IN TIED TO THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE RECORDED ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND. THAT WAS ABOUT NINETY ALMOST NINETY SEVEN PERCENT, NINETY 6.69 PERCENT OF THE SAMPLE WAS PROPERLY SUPPORTED. THE NEXT BULLET HERE DISBURSEMENTS WITH INADEQUATE OR NO SUPPORT SO INADEQUATE, MEANING EITHER THE SUPPORT WAS DEFICIENT OR IT DID NOT AGREE TO THE AMOUNT RECORDED. THAT TOTALED 3.7 MILLION THREE HUNDRED THREE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY TWO THOUSAND, WHICH MADE OF 3.28 PERCENT OF THE SAMPLE AND THEN THE LAST BULLET HERE DISBURSEMENTS APPEARING TO HAVE BEEN PAID TWICE OR IN DUPLICATE, 31650.03 PERCENT OF OUR SAMPLE. SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE SPEND A LOT OF THE TIME HERE. AND THAT WAS THE TESTING RESULTS, SOME INTERPRETIVE RESULTS. AS FAR AS HOW DID THE SPENDING WE EVALUATED, HOW DID IT RELATE TO THE BOND AGREEMENTS? SO FIRST BULLET JUST MENTIONED WE ARE NOT LEGAL EXPERTS. I'M AN AUDITOR, I'M A CPA. SO I READ, READ THE BOND AGREEMENT. WE READ A LOT OF THE BOND AGREEMENTS. SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH WITH BOND AGREEMENTS AND BOND SPENDING. HOWEVER, THE CITY SHOULD FORM THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS ON WHAT IS ALLOWED AND DISALLOWED. WE JUST APPLIED THE AGREEMENT AS BEST AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT. SO JUST JUST THAT CAVEAT THERE TO START. THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT THIS ENGAGEMENT IS WE TURNED OVER ALL OUR WORK PAPERS TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE ARRANGE THIS AS A CONSULTING ENGAGEMENT. IT'S NOT JUST IN THIS REPORT, FASHION OR THE LETTERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE WORK PAPERS AND HAVE ALL THE DETAILS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. SO WE'LL GET INTO THE THE INTERPRETIVE RESULTS HERE. SO THE SAMPLE PROPERLY SUPPORTED AGAIN WAS ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND OF THOSE PROPERLY SUPPORTED. THE EXPENSES APPEARING TO FALL WITHIN THE INTENT OF THE DEBT AGREEMENTS APPEAR TO BE ONE HUNDRED NINE MILLION THREE HUNDRED FORTY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FIVE, WHICH WAS NINETY 9.51 PERCENT OF THAT SAMPLE. SO THESE WERE AGAIN WERE THE SAMPLE THAT WERE PROPERLY SUPPORTED. THOSE EXPENSES THAT DID NOT APPEAR TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE DEBT AGREEMENTS CONSISTED OF FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWO FORTY EIGHT, OR 0.49 PERCENT. THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT DIDN'T APPEAR TO MEET ANY BOND CRITERIA THAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY SORRY, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER AND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY TWO THOUSAND THAT WAS SPENT ON CITY PAYROLL. IT APPEARED TO BE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, HOWEVER IT WAS FOR CITY PAYROLL. OBSERVATION, SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE SUBSTANTIVE FINDINGS, OK? THOSE THOSE ARE SAMPLE WHAT WE IDENTIFIED ARE INTERPRETIVE RESULTS AS FAR AS HOW IT RELATED TO THE AGREEMENT. JUST GENERAL OBSERVATIONS. WE DID PLENTY OF WORK THAT THERE'S SOME FEEDBACK HERE AND REALLY SOME GROWTH, POTENTIALLY FOR THE CITY. SO AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING TO THE CITY MANAGER, HE ALSO SUGGESTED WE PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAVE THOSE AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE REALLY GENERATED FROM THESE OBSERVATIONS AS WELL AS THE FINDINGS. THE DIFFICULTY IN IDENTIFYING THE RESPECTIVE BOND SPENDING ACTIVITIES WAS INCREASED DUE TO THE UNCLEAR ACCOUNTING PROCESSES APPLIED IN TURNOVER AND PERSONNEL. JUST SOME OF THE WAY THINGS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR EXTREMELY UNCLEAR TOOK A WHILE JUST TO IDENTIFY WHICH FUNDS THINGS WERE GOING TO BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE RECORDED IN ONE PLACE AND THEN MOVE TO ANOTHER AND THEN MOVED BACK IN. THAT KIND OF IS COVERED IN BULLET TO BOND FUNDS INEXPLICABLY, INEXPLICABLY MOVED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN FUNDS AND ACCOUNTS. A KIND OF A FRANK COMMENT, IT APPEARED THE ACCOUNTANT WASN'T SURE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, JUST WHEN YOU SEE THAT MUCH MOVEMENT AND MOVING THE FUNDS AROUND. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A LOGICAL CONCLUSION. THERE WERE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF JOURNAL ENTRIES IN REVERSING JOURNAL ENTRIES. TYPICALLY, IT CASH DISBURSEMENTS. IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO HAVE SO MANY JOURNAL ENTRIES IN ESPECIALLY REVERSING JOURNAL [03:25:05] ENTRIES, REVERSING JOURNAL JOURNAL ENTRIES. TYPICALLY, YOU DETERMINE THAT A CORRECTION IS NECESSARY, AND THERE'S THERE'S QUITE A FEW CO-MINGLING OF DEBT ISSUANCES AND OPERATING OPERATING FUNDS IN SOME CASES. SO VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THOSE DEBT ISSUANCES SEGREGATED ACTIVITY SEGREGATED. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY WHAT LED TO A LOT OF THE CONCERNS HERE AND WHY WE DID THIS ENGAGEMENT. NO SCHEDULE PROVIDED INDICATING THE SPENDING OF THESE BOND FUNDS. SO IN ADDITION TO KEEPING THINGS SEGREGATED AND ACCOUNTED FOR PROPERLY, CITY REALLY SHOULD HAVE A SCHEDULE IN TRACKING HOW THAT SPENDING IS OCCURRING OVER TIME. AND AS FAR AS AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, WE WEREN'T PROVIDED THAT IF IT WAS DONE. A COUPLE MORE SLIDES, SO THAT IS KIND OF EVERYTHING WE IDENTIFIED. OUR OBSERVATIONS AND THEN HERE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WENT OVER THESE WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND I'LL GO THROUGH THEM NOW. THE FIRST FEW GO OVER THAT SEGREGATION OF FUNDS, GETTING RID OF THE CO-MINGLING OF FUNDS THAT I MENTIONED CASH AND SPENT. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASH AND SPENDING FROM EACH BOND ISSUANCE IS HELD IN A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT, THEN ONLY INCLUDES FUNDS FROM THAT BOND ISSUANCE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE RIGHT COLUMNS IF THAT CONTROL HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND THEN IS IT IT IN OPERATION NOW THIS ONE? THIS ONE HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND IS IN OPERATION NO. TWO CASH EXPENDITURES PAID AND REIMBURSEMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE BOND CASH FUNDS FOR EACH BOND ISSUANCE ARE ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN A SEPARATE CLAIM ON POOLED CASH GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNT THAT IS DISTINCT FROM OTHER CLAIM ON POOLED CASH ACCOUNTS. COMBINING MULTIPLE ISSUANCES THAT MIGHT THAT HAVE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS AS FAR AS HOW THEY ARE TO BE SPENT IS A BAD WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR IT. IT'S A GOOD WAY TO SPEND MONEY AND EVENTUALLY END UP OVERSPENDING FOR ONE IN UNDERSPENDING ON ANOTHER. SO THAT'S A SUGGESTION YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT STATUS OF THESE ON THE RIGHT. NUMBER THREE, EACH BOND ISSUANCE IS SET UP WITH A SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FUND FROM ANY OTHER ACTIVITIES NOT RELATING TO THE BOND, WHICH IS USED TO TRACK ALL ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THAT BOND ISSUANCE AND SPENDING OF THOSE FUNDS. SO JUST ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE ACTIVITIES OF THAT ISSUANCE WITH ITS OWN DISTINCT FUND. IF THAT IF THAT WERE TO BE DONE WITH THESE, THIS PROCESS WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY QUICK. IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AGAIN, JUST JUST PULLING OUT THE ACTIVITY AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WAS FOR, WHICH WAS WAS QUITE A STRUGGLE. SORRY, NUMBER FOUR, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PREPARES A SCHEDULE QUARTERLY SHOWING ALL ACTIVITIES IMPACTING BOND FUNDS. THE SCHEDULE SHOWS THE BEGINNING BALANCE FOR EACH BOND. IT AGREES TO THE BANK STATEMENTS FOR THE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TIME, ALL TRANSACTIONS OCCURRING DURING THAT PERIOD AND THEN THE BALANCES TIE TO THE BANK STATEMENTS AT PERIOD END. SO IT WOULD BE A REAL ROLL FORWARD OF ALL ACTIVITY. THIS WOULD BE DONE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. SAME THING. NUMBER FIVE, THIS REPORT GOES HAND IN HAND, BUT IT'S IT'S AN ONGOING REPORT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS SHOWING WHAT ARE THE UNSPENT BOND PROCEEDS. I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF, IF, IF PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF WHAT THEY WERE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS COMING FROM FIVE YEARS DOWN. YOU KNOW, I'M WELL INTO THE FUTURE LOOKING BACK AND I'M WONDERING IF IF PEOPLE KNEW WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT AS THIS WAS GOING ON, JUST JUST FROM HOW IT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR. WE'LL FLIP TO THE LAST SLIDE HERE. COULD YOU JUST GO BACK TO THE SLIDE? SO WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF CONTROL ADOPTED AND CONTROL IN OPERATION? YEAH, AND THAT'S COVERED IN THE LETTER THAT YOU'LL HAVE, BUT I'LL MENTION THAT. SO IT'S ONE THING TO ADOPT THE CONTROL, SO WE MIGHT HAVE A GREAT DESIGNED CONTROL. LIKE I WOULD THINK THAT SOME OF THESE CONTROLS WOULD WOULD COVER THE RISK HERE AND MITIGATE THE RISK. BUT JUST JUST ADOPTING THAT CONTROL, IT ALSO HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, RIGHT? SO SO IT'S OK TO MAKE THAT MOTION. BUT THEN SO IN IN THE AUDIT WORLD, WHEN WE'RE TESTING INTERNAL CONTROLS, WE TEST A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE TEST THE DESIGN OF IT. DOES IT MITIGATE THE RISK? IS IT PROPERLY DESIGNED TO MITIGATE THE RISK? AND THEN, OF COURSE, IS IT ADOPTED? BUT IS IT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED? AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE SEPARATELY BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY TIMES WHEN YOU SEE A PROPERLY DESIGNED AND ADOPTED CONTROL THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AND YOU JUST THINK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU DO IN LIFE, YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE A GREAT PLAN. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT EXECUTING THAT PLAN, IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE EXECUTION. SO THAT'S WHY WE DO IT TO TWO STEPS. SO IF I COULD DUMB IT DOWN FOR ME. SO CONTROL ADOPTED MEANS THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. THAT'S OUR POLICY AND POLICY PROBLEM IS THAT'S OUR PRACTICE. YES, WE HAVE ALL THESE IN POLICY, BUT ARE WE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS? WE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, THANK YOU. SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER SIX AND I'LL OPEN IT UP INTO QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE HERE AND WANTED TO GET THROUGH IT ALL FOR YOU. NUMBER SIX IS REVIEW THAT QUARTERLY SCHEDULE. [03:30:02] SO ALONG WITH THE MAKING SURE IT'S IMPLEMENTED IS A REVIEW PROCESS. AND THAT'S THAT'S THIS NUMBER SIX IS CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE REVIEWS AND SIGNS OFF ON THE QUARTERLY REPORTS. SO THESE REPORTS I'M MENTIONING OVER BOND SPENDING AND UNSPENT BOND PROCEEDS THAT SOMEONE'S ACTUALLY REVIEWING THAT AND MAKING SURE IT'S DONE AND THEY HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING. AND, YOU KNOW, PUT POTENTIALLY COULD REPORT THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNSELOR OR WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO WITH IT. BUT THERE'S THAT REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S NUMBER SIX SEVEN AND EIGHT SEVEN EIGHT NINE. THOSE THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE. THESE ARE JUST GOOD TO KNOW THEY'RE THERE WITHIN YOUR PURCHASE. SORRY, PROCUREMENT POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2019. ANY EXPENDITURES OVER BASICALLY FIFTY THOUSAND AND ABOVE. CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, NUMBER EIGHT, ANY EXPENDITURES NOT OTHERWISE EXEMPT, INCLUDING BOND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GREATER THAN FORTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY NINE REQUIRED, THEY GO THROUGH A SEALED BID BIDDING PROCESS AND THEN CHANGE ORDERS. PART OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL, SO YOU DO HAVE THOSE CONTROLS IN PLACE. I LISTED THEM HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE RELEVANT. SO, SO YOU HAVE MY SUGGESTIONS, BUT ALSO GOOD CONTROLS IN PLACE. SO AS FAR AS IT COMES TO THOSE APPROVALS, SO THAT IS WHAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THOSE. THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO ANSWER THEM. QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO YOU MENTIONED THE FUNDS MOVING BACK AND FORTH KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH RHYME OR REASON TO IT WHEN YOU KNOW AND YOU SUGGEST AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION OF SOMEBODY NOT KNOWING, WOULD YOU HAVE COURT IF SAY, YOU MOVED A MILLION DOLLARS OVER TO FLOAT YOUR PAYROLL FOR A MONTH AND THEN YOU MOVED IT BACK? YEAH, SORRY, MY LITTLE DRY THROAT JUST PLAYED WELL. SO I MEAN, IF YOU THEN ULTIMATELY SPENT IT ON THE BOND THING. YEAH. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU USED IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE UNTIL YOU HAD ENOUGH MONEY. WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE PICTURE FUND. AND THEN IT GETS TRICKY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE CO-MINGLING, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPENDING THAT'S NOT BOND RELATED, RIGHT? BUT WHAT WE REALLY TRIED TO DO IS BEST WE COULD. SO, OK, LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEN I'LL KIND OF GET INTO WHAT WE DID. YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT BECAUSE WE WERE. THAT WAS PART OF WHAT TOOK SO LONG, JUST TO BE FRANK WITH YOU, IS WE HAD WE HAD A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FUNDS. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR VARIOUS FUNDS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY ACCOUNTS FOR THINGS AND AND THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WERE THOUGHT TO BE WHERE ALL THIS ACTIVITY WAS ACCOUNTED FOR. BUT WHEN YOU FOLLOW IT AND THEN YOU SEE IT GOING OVER HERE AND I DON'T HAVE THAT, I PHYSICALLY DON'T HAVE THAT FILE. IT WENT TO A FUND, I DON'T KNOW. AND SO I'M LITERALLY REQUESTING THAT FUND THAT LEDGER SO I CAN SEE IT GO THERE AND THEN FOLLOWING IT BACK OVER HERE AND THEN OVER HERE. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT. SO AND I'M NOT TRYING TO EXAGGERATE IT. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH, BUT I BELIEVE AND I PERFORM A LOT OF THE WORK. I DIDN'T PERFORM ALL THE SUBSTANTIVE TESTING THE VOUCHING, BUT I DID A LOT OF THE TRACING BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT. BUT I BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE. I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT. YES, I DO BELIEVE THAT. OK. AND TO THAT POINT, THIS PROCESS, THE ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN MILLION THOSE WERE AGAIN, THINGS WERE BEING COMMINGLED. THOSE WERE TRANSACTIONS THAT APPEARED LIKE THEY WERE. THEY WERE CONSTRUCTION RELATED. SO, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS THE PAYROLL EXPENDITURE WHICH WAS OUT OF ACCOUNT THAT THERE WAS ONLY CONSTRUCTION, SO IT WAS LESS COMMINGLED. SO THAT ONE TO ME WAS A RED FLAG THAT SAYS, WELL, CLEARLY EVERYTHING IN HERE IS CONSTRUCTION RELATED. THEN THIS ONE WAS AND IT SAID CITY PAYROLL FOR SOMETHING CONSTRUCTION RELATED. SO I IMAGINE THE CITY AND I'M BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION. I COULD IMAGINE THAT THEY WERE PERFORMING SOME WORK POSSIBLY RELATED TO THE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT. AND I DON'T HAVE NEAR THE SUPPORT TO SAY THAT THEY COULD SEND ME A PAYROLL AND I STILL WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE DOING. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I HAVE TO STOP. IRRESPECTIVE OF THE GENERAL LEDGER DESCRIPTION FOR THE TRANSACTION, THE BOND AGREEMENTS, NONE OF THEM SAID, YOU CAN PAY YOUR FOLKS TO DO THIS WORK. SO SORRY, I TRIED TO ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY, BUT I GOT A LITTLE LARGER. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS WATER WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. COME BACK TO ME, I GOT TO REFORM, I THOUGHT THERE. OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. [03:35:04] SO I GUESS I'LL GIVE A COUPLE OF THEM, YEAH, GO AHEAD. SO YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT A LEGAL EXPERT AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS THAT THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR THINGS THAT WERE ALLOWED BY THE DEBT AGREEMENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THIS ISN'T REALLY SO MUCH A QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU CAN PROBABLY JUST CONFIRM IT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY OUR BOND COUNSEL IS THAT WHEN A BOND ISSUANCE, WHEN WHEN THE BONDS BALLOT SAYS THIS WILL FUND PROJECTS A, B, C AND OTHER STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU SET ASIDE THE MONEY FOR A, B AND C BEFORE YOU GO TO THE OTHER THINGS. NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TESTING AS LONG AS IT WAS THE STREETS AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT THAT FITS THE WIDER SCOPE OF THAT BOND. YOU WOULD SAY THAT WAS OK, NOT NECESSARILY CATCHING THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T SET ASIDE THE PROPER MONEY FOR A, B AND C THAT WERE NAMED. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S ACCURATE. SO WE WENT BY THE LETTER OF THE AGREEMENT. AND AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD TURN OVER THE TRANSACTIONS THAT WE TESTED AND THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN OUR NOTES. SO NOT ONLY I MEAN, SO NOW THE CITY HAS NOT ONLY THE GENERAL LEDGER NOTES TAKEN BY WHICHEVER ACCOUNTANT DID THE WORK RECORDING IT BACK THEN. THEY HAVE OUR NOTES WHO VERIFIED THAT TRANSACTION AND SAID THIS IS FOR PROPERTY XYZ OR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT X Y Z. BUT YES, SIMPLY WE WENT OFF THE AIR AS DETAILED IN THE IN THE BOND AGREEMENT. SO THAT'S A FAIR DEPICTION. IF IF THERE'S MORE DETAIL THAT EXISTS BEYOND THAT, THAT THIS THIS DRAINAGE PROJECT IN THE BOND AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, SAID WAS WAS REASONABLY BROAD. HOWEVER, THERE WAS MORE DETAIL SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE BOND AGREEMENT. WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT APPLY THOSE PRINCIPLES. AND THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THAT LEGAL OR SOMEBODY ELSE THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH AND AND USE THOSE WORK PAPERS TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT. OK. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT DIFFERENCE, THAT DISTINCTION IS PART OF WHY WE'RE TIED UP WITH THE AG. NOT NOT BEING ABLE TO ISSUE MORE BONDS IS BECAUSE. THAT'S CORRECT. CORRECT. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT A BOND COUNCIL HERE, BUT WE'RE TIED UP BECAUSE SOME IT MIGHT MAY HAVE BEEN LEGAL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE BOND OVERALL, BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE NAMED PROJECTS THAT HAD TO BE COMPLETED OR ALLOCATED FIRST. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE POSITION WE ARE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. CORRECT? ANTIQUITIES ALLUDED TO IS WE HAVE, I THINK, WHAT KIND OF KICKED ALL THIS OFFICE, WE HAVE A STREETS AND DRAINAGE BOND THAT SAID IT WOULD GO TO DO THREE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE, AND WE WENT AND DID SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE DID THE THREE THINGS. AND SO THEN WE GOT CAUGHT TO WHERE. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION. IF YOU GO BACK, IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE, WHEN WHEN YOU'RE CHECKING THE EXPENDITURES, DID YOU VERIFY THAT EACH ONE HAD A CITY COUNCIL ACTION APPROVING THE EXPENDITURE? SO ANOTHER ANOTHER PROJECT WE DID FOR THE CITY WAS WE REVIEWED A SET OF MINUTES OVER. I FORGET THE NUMBER OF YEARS. YEAH. AND WE WE DOCUMENTED ALL THE APPROVALS OF NEW CONTRACTS, PAY APPLICATIONS OR APPROVALS THINGS ITS THINGS OF THAT NATURE SPECIFIC TO EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION. THE 380 WE DID NOT TIE EACH ONE TO TO A COUNCIL APPROVAL. JUST TRYING TO THINK IS GOING TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAID, WE HAD LIKE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT FIVE MILLION, LET'S SAY, OF STREETS AND DRAINAGE MONEY WAS BUILT TO GO BUY LAND FOR A DEVELOPMENT. AND SO I'M WONDERING, IS THAT IN HERE? LIKE, IS THAT FLAG THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE FROM ONE OF THESE CHARTS THAT ALL THESE TRANSACTIONS WERE IN FACT APPROVED IN SOME CHINA STAND? IF YOU JUST DID LIKE A SPOT CHECK OR IF? BECAUSE BECAUSE WE HAD I MEAN, WE HAD FREQUENT USES OF OVER 50000 THOUSAND THAT SOME OF US DIDN'T. EVEN WE DIDN'T EVEN SEE SOME OF THIS STUFF. YEAH. IN. DO YOU WANT TO I GOT. MY NAME IS GEORGE HYDE, I'M THE LITIGATION COUNSEL FOR THE CITY. THE QUESTION I THINK THAT YOU'RE POSING IS THAT IF IF I LABELED IN IN THE IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE EXPENSE THAT IT WAS A DRAINAGE EXPENSE AND YOU LOOKED AT THE BOND AND IT SAID IT WAS A DRAINAGE EXPENSE, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY ACQUISITION, YOU WOULD HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE THAT LABEL THAT THEY PUT INTO THE DOCUMENTS, IF IT'S A DRAINAGE THAN THAN, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S THAT CHECKS A BOX. BUT IF IT WAS ACTUALLY NOT DRAINAGE, BUT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURCHASE. [03:40:04] YOU WOULD HAVE A YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT, WOULD YOU? WELL, THE I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE VOUCHING TO PAY APPLICATIONS FROM THOSE PARTIES DOING THE WORK. SO IF THEY'RE DOING A DRAINAGE PROJECT, YOU KNOW THEY SHOULD IDENTIFY THAT PROJECT APPROPRIATELY. LIKE THE CITY, LET'S SAY THE CITY LABELED IT AS SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE AN EDC PURCHASE, LAND PURCHASE OR I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE CITY THE OPPOSITE. THE CITY SPENT IT ON LAND, BUT THEY WROTE IT DOWN AND SAID IT WAS FOR A DRAINAGE. WOULD YOU BE TO TELL THAT THEY BOUGHT LAND AND NOT DRAINAGE? OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING IT FACE VALUE? THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT I WOULD BECAUSE I'M NOT RELYING ON ANYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN. WE'RE TAKING THAT AS, OK, MONEY WENT OUT THE DOOR. NOW WHAT WAS IT FOR? AND THE FOR COMES FROM THE DOCUMENT, THE PAY APPLICATIONS FROM THIRD PARTY, IT DOESN'T COME FROM WHATEVER THE CITY SAID. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO. I MEAN, WE'LL CORROBORATE IT IF IT'S RIGHT, BUT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY TRYING TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, THIS MONEY WENT FOR THIS PURPOSE AND THEY SAID IT WAS FOR THIS PURPOSE AND THAT'S CODED IN THE LEDGER AND SAID IT WAS FOUR STREETS. AND THEN HE PULLED THE THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND IT'S TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. YOU KNOW, I CAN WRITE WHAT I WANT IN THE LEDGER, BUT HE'S ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO THE DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THAT. SO THAT'S WHY NO MATTER WHAT I SAY ME, BUT IT WASN'T ME, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WROTE IN THE LEDGER. THE PAPERWORK HE'S GOING BACK TO SAYS, YOU KNOW THIS PAY UP FROM WHOEVER FROM THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, AND THEY HAVE TO PUT THE PROJECT ON THERE, WHAT IT'S FOR. AND THEN IT'S BROKEN DOWN. IT'S USUALLY 20 PAGES OF STUFF OF ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WELL, I'M NOT, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A LAND PURCHASE. SO YOU ALL YOU HAVE IS I IS I PURCHASED FORTY FIVE ACRES OF PROPERTY, SO YOU HAVE A CLOSING TRANSACTION. BUT WHAT THAT PROPERTY, THE INTENT OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE IN THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS. OH YEAH. WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THE EXAMPLE WAS DRAINAGE FIRST LAND PURCHASE AND THOSE ARE STARTING. WELL, NO, I'M SAYING I'M BUYING DRAINAGE. I'M BUYING THESE FORTY FIVE ACRES TO CREATE A DRAINAGE PROJECT. YEAH, WE WOULDN'T KNOW THE PURPOSE OF WHY. IF IT'S A LAND ACQUISITION, WE WOULDN'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR ITS PURPOSE OR WHY. RIGHT. SO IF I USED A BOND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND I BOUGHT LAND WELL, LAND COULD BE USED FOR ROADS. AND SO THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD NECESSARILY FLAG. NO, WE WOULDN'T. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE TURNED IT OVER. AND ALL ALL THE LAND PURCHASES ARE IDENTIFIED WITHIN OUR WORK PAPERS. AND I THINK THE THE ATTORNEY RIGHT, THE BOND ATTORNEY, HE'LL BE HERE NEXT WEEK. SO HE HAS ALL THE ALL THE WORK PAPERS HE DOES. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL TELL YOU AND WHAT JONATHAN LOOKED AT IS THE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS, THE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS THAT WERE USED TO ISSUE THE DEBT AND THE DESCRIPTION IN THOSE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW WHICH DEBT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THESE 2019? WELL, I KNOW THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS APPROVED IN EIGHTEEN WAS $70 MILLION FOR ROADS AND $50 MILLION FOR PARKS. WHEN THAT OFFICIAL STATEMENT WAS ISSUED, IT SAID ON BOTH THE A AND THE B, AND I KNOW ONE OF THEM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR ROADS AND WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR PARKS, BUT BOTH OF THEM HAD THE EXACT SAME DESCRIPTION ON HIM. ROAD PROJECTS DRAINAGE THAT PARK LAND. PARK IMPROVEMENTS PARK CANADA. SO I MEAN, ALL OF THESE THINGS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT, YES, I CAN GO BACK TO WHAT THE VOTERS DID AND APPROVED, AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY. SO WE ISSUED AN A IN THE B AND WE SET THE VOTERS APPROVED SEVENTY MILLION AND FIFTY MILLION AND WE'VE ONLY ISSUED TWENTY TWO MILLION OF THAT TOTAL. SO WE'RE STILL THIS IS WHERE I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN BART'S GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH IN AND TALK TO YOU GUYS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. THAT LAND DIDN'T NECESSARILY VOTE BECAUSE IT DID SAY ON THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, PARKLAND, HE HAS NO WAY TO KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR PARKS, FOR DRAINAGE, FOR WHATEVER. BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT OFFICIAL STATEMENT DOCUMENT THAT SAID THAT LAND DIDN'T MEET THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT WAS HERE? I GOTCHA. MAKES SENSE. SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. HE CAN'T KNOW WHAT OUR INTENT WITH THE LAND WAS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE DONE NOTHING WITH IT. SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT IT'S WORTH SAYING AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF WHY I WANTED TO STRUCTURE THIS AS A CONSULTING ENGAGEMENT SO THAT IF THIS WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT, I COULD ONLY GIVE YOU A REPORT AND I COULD KEEP GIVING YOU A REPORT AND TRYING TO ADD INFORMATION. BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THOSE SUBSTANTIVE DOCUMENTS, WHICH WHICH ARE THE EVIDENCE, THE PAY APPLICATIONS, THE THE REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS IN LAND PURCHASES IN THOSE THINGS. AND OUR HOPE AND THE REASON FOR THE DISCLAIMER IS IF THERE'S A BOND ATTORNEY THAT SAYS THERE'S THERE'S SOMETHING BEYOND THIS, THIS VAGUE DESCRIPTION OVER HOW THESE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT, THAT THEY WOULD APPLY THAT AND USE THIS INFORMATION, I'D TRY TO GATHER USEFUL INFORMATION AND BE AVAILABLE AND ALL OF. [03:45:03] STATEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS BARTLETT WILL CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NORMAL FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND WOULD SAY THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE OUR GENERAL IN NATURE. WHEN WE DO THE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS, WHEN WE SAY THEY'RE FOR ROAD PROJECTS, CONSTRUCTION DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, WHATEVER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ENCOMPASS ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO AND WE DON'T. IF WE MAKE IT THIS SPECIFIC, THEN WE'D HAVE TO. WE COULDN'T SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND REDO SO MANY THINGS IN THAT. SO THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WHY THOSE THINGS HAPPEN THAT WAY. AND THEY'RE ALL WRITTEN THAT WAY. WHETHER IT'S I MEAN, YOU CAN GO BACK FROM FOR 10 YEARS ON THE ONES WE HAVE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, THAT'S THAT'S THE NORM ON THAT. SO WHY WE TOOK IT TO THE VOTE AND WE SAID IT WAS FOR THESE PROJECTS. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT GETS ISSUED, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LIST THOSE PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A BROAD YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND KNOW WHAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTE. SOUNDS LIKE A PROCESS ISSUE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF DONE THIS WAY, BUT THE VAGUENESS IS WHAT GOT US INTO THE PROBLEM THAT IF WE START DOING IT MORE DIRECT, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO ISSUE FUNDS FOR LIVE OAK, THAT'S THE STATEMENT. THAT'S IT. THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND GO, OH, SORRY, WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY UNLESS IT'S ON LIVE OAK. WHAT WE DID IS IS WE TELL THE VOTERS ONE THING AND THEN WE ISSUE VAGUENESS ON THE OTHER SO WE CAN GO DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO AND WE COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THE VOTERS APPROVED IT. AND IN REALITY, WHAT THEY'RE APPROVING AND WHAT WE'RE STATEMENTS. AND SO WHILE EVERYBODY MAY DO IT. THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO BE DONE, THOUGH, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOURSELF IN A PICKLE, WHERE YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS MONEY TO A MILLION DOLLARS ISSUED AND THEN YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEND IT AND THE ONLY THING YOU'LL HAVE LEFT TO DO WITH IT. AND IF YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON WHAT'S IN THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WITH THE MONEY IS TO PAY DEBT WITH IT. MR.. AND SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON HOW YOU DO IT. I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR 219 PROP EIGHT BOND ISSUE. THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS WENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THREE ROAD PROJECTS. INSTEAD, 7.3 MILLION WAS TAKEN TO PURCHASE LAND THAT THEY CLAIMED WAS FOR STREETS AND DRAINAGE PURPOSES. SO SO THAT. SO THEY GOT OUTSIDE THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS WHERE HE SAYS HE CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE LEGAL ISSUES. BART'S ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT WITH COUNCIL AND COME BACK AND TIE IT TOGETHER NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OK. ISAAC MR. MAYOR, ARE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. IT APPEARS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WASN'T JUST BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ON A DOCUMENT OR THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ON TWO DOCUMENTS OR THAT SORT OF THING. MS. RIOS IS VERY CORRECT, THE LANGUAGE THAT IS PART OF THE BOND COVENANT IS USUALLY VERY BROAD. BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN. AS BEING IN HIS PROFESSION FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS. THE DISCUSSION COMING FROM COUNCIL, WHAT'S PRESENTED TO VOTERS WAS APPROVED. YOU USUALLY HAVE A REAL CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THE INTENT WAS. IT APPEARED THAT. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS REALLY, REALLY CAREFULLY. THAT THAT WASN'T FOLLOWED, AND THERE WERE SOME DECISIONS MAYBE NOT TO FOLLOW THAT FOR SOME REASON. AND THAT IS KIND OF ON INDIVIDUALS. NOT THIS SYSTEM IN AND OF ITSELF. YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED HERE. OF SOME THINGS THAT OCCURRED. IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES AREN'T IN PLACE OR WEREN'T IN PLACE, IT WAS BECAUSE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOME PEOPLE. DIDN'T FOLLOW THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WERE IN PLACE. SOME OF YOU AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE SWINGING PENDULUM THAT IT WENT TOO FAR OVER THIS WAY. BUT DON'T GO TOO FAR OVER THIS WAY TRYING TO CORRECT IT. I WAS TALKING TO A COUNCIL MEMBER TODAY WHO SAID. THE CRITICAL THING IS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES. YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE POLICIES AND THEY HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED. BUT BECAUSE YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE WHOLE SYSTEM WAS BAD. THAT MEANS THAT THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT MADE SOME DECISIONS THAT WE ARE SEEING IS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE RIGHT NOW AND SUSPECT EVEN RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE ARE PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT GOVERNMENTS FOLLOW. THE GOVERNMENT IS AN HONORABLE PROFESSION. WE CAN GET THIS THING DONE. WE CAN GET IT DONE RIGHT. AND WE CAN GO BACK TO TAXPAYERS WITH WITH IT DONE RIGHT. I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO GO TOO FAR OVER. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE MORE OVERSIGHT. THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MUCH MORE CLEARER, MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT. YES. DON'T GO TOO FAR OVER WHERE YOU. IT'S SO RESTRICTIVE THAT YOU CAN'T DO THE FUNCTIONS THAT YOU WERE THAT YOU NEED TO BE [03:50:01] ABLE TO DO. YEAH. BASICALLY, ON INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, BUT THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AFTER STAFFS TALK WITH THE PROFESSIONALS ENGINEERS RECOMMENDATIONS AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND MADE PUBLIC IN A PUBLIC MEETING. AND THEY DO CHANGE. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO. IT SHOULDN'T BE ME THINKING, I'M GOING TO BE QUIET ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT, OK, YOU GOT THE BEST NATIONS HE HAS OR NOT, ANYTHING THAT I'VE NOT EVER DONE BEFORE. IT'S JUST MAYBE PEOPLE BEFORE ME HERE DIDN'T DO THEM. THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY HOW I'VE ALWAYS OPERATED AND WHAT I WOULD DO. I DO REPORTS. I TRACK EVERY PENNY OF IT AND AND IN LARGE, I MEAN, I'VE HAD LARGER ICONS AND YOU GUYS HAVE HERE THAT I'VE TRACKED AND SPENT AND DONE FOR YEARS. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD DO AND WILL BRING BACK TO YOU AS WE ISSUE THE DEBT AND COME FORWARD, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT EVERY PENNY IS SPENT ON AND HOW IT IS. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO TRUST ME ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT STICKING MY REPUTATION ON DOING SOME OF THIS OTHER WHATEVER. THIS IS, RIGHT? AND I WILL TELL YOU, I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FULLY TRUST HER. YOU CAN DO THE OVERSIGHT PIECE OF IT. YOU CAN MAKE NOT SAYING DON'T DO OVERSIGHT AND DOING EXTRA OVERSIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. TRUST, BUT VERIFY. WHAT I AM SAYING IS DON'T SET UP THE GROUND RULES SO TIGHT THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE PROJECTS DONE AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU FIND IN THE FIELD. VERIFY, VERIFY, VERIFY, RIGHT? SET THE EXPECTATION THAT I BRING THAT BACK TO YOU QUARTERLY THAT I SHOW YOU WHAT IT'S BEING SPENT ON, THAT I DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND I'LL DO IT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE DONE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD SEE. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT. AND THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN GOING FORWARD. IT'S UNFORTUNATELY NOT WHAT HAPPENED, BUT IT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE AND IT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN GOING FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, HE'S RIGHT. YOU SHOULD EXPECT FOR ME TO BRING THAT. YOU SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT ME TO. YOU SHOULD. IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA. IT SHOULD BE THERE. SHOULD IT BE REQUIRED FOR ME TO DO THOSE THINGS AND YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE DONE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. AND THAT WAS THOSE PROCEDURES WILL HAPPEN GOING FORWARD. SO RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO YOU ALL, THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE NOT IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDO WHAT'S ALREADY. HERE'S MY OTHER TWO COMMENTS, AND THEN I STARTED HAVING A THIRD ONE. THE MORE WE TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON POINT, SO NOVEMBER 18TH, I BELIEVE OF I THINK IT WAS 19, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRANSFERS OCCURRED. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LIKE 30 OR 40 TRANSFERS BACK AND FORTH WHEN I SAW THE AUDIT. AND THAT'S WHERE I START WONDERING WHERE WE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL? BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU MAKE SO MANY TRANSFERS? BUT THEN YOU COME BACK IN JANUARY, BECAUSE DECEMBER OUR ALL OF OUR PROPERTY TAX MONEY COMES IN. SO IF YOU'RE SHORT, I COULD SEE WHERE SOMEONE'S MOVING STUFF AROUND AND THEN THEY FIX IT FOUR WEEKS LATER, BECAUSE MICHELLE SORRELL WAS JUST LIKE YOU AND SHE SHE WAS A VERY LONG TERM VETERAN CFO THAT WOULD COME UP HERE REGULARLY. AND WE'D QUESTION AND SHE'D TELL US, NO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT WRONG? NO, I DID IT THIS WAY. NO, I'M DOING IT RIGHT. I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE. AREN'T I'M JUST SAYING FOR A YEAR, A COUPLE OF US WOULD GET IN ARGUMENTS WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING THE WHOLE STORY. AND SO AS WE QUESTIONED, WE WOULD HAVE I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON WOULD REMEMBER WE'D HAVE THESE FIGHTS OCCASIONALLY UP HERE, ONLY TO COME BACK TWO YEARS LATER AND HEAR EVERYTHING THAT WAS BEING DONE. WE CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WHY THE WHY. IT MAY HAVE BEEN SHADY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROFESSIONAL PERSON. SO I I AGREE WITH THE TRUST AND DON'T VERIFY OR TRUST AND VERIFY. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT, BUT SOMEONE HAS GOT TO BE ABLE TO TELL A COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTANTS. AND SO WHEN A PERSON COMES UP AND THEY SAY WHAT MAKES SENSE IS VERY EASY TO GO, YEAH, IT SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THEY GO OFF. IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'RE ACTUALLY JACKING IT ALL UP AND YOU GUYS GOT SO MANY TRANSFERS THAT WE HAD. AND I THINK SHE USED TO BE A CPA. AND SO I'M THINKING EVERY TIME SHE SAYS SOMETHING. SO THAT'S JUST MY OTHER COMMENT IS THAT I GET IT. BUT SOMEHOW SOMEONE'S GOT TO TELL US BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THE FIX. BUT YEAH, THERE'S A PROCESS WE WE MISSED. AND IF SOMEONE COULD GO BACK IN 2019 OR 2018 AND GO, HEY, COUNCIL MEMBER, HERE'S THE QUESTION SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING WHY? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ASKED A TON AND IT WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT WRONG. AND AND SO I THINK WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER SPOT TODAY. BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET COMFORTABLE, THEN YOU START NOT PAYING ATTENTION. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A CYCLE. BUT ANYWAY, COULD I SAY SOMETHING TO THAT POINT? OH YEAH, THE. SO THE TRANSFERS THERE'S THERE WERE IN THERE PROBABLY STILL WAS AT SOME POINT A DEFICIT BALANCE IN THE CLAIM ON CASH. SO IN, YOU KNOW, NO DISRESPECT. I DON'T KNOW Y'ALL'S LEVEL OF ACCOUNTING KNOWLEDGE OF POOLED CASH FOR A CITY, BUT IT'S BASICALLY DIFFERENT FUNDS. MAY THEY SHARE ONE POOLED CASH ACCOUNT. [03:55:02] IT'S ALMOST LIKE A HUSBAND AND WIFE IS HOW I EXPLAIN IT TO THE NEW STAFF AND THEY'RE SHARING THE ACCOUNT, BUT WE'RE KEEPING LEDGERS ON THE HUSBAND AND WIFE. WELL, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, THESE TRANSFERS WERE, AND I CAN'T SAY WHICH FUND YOU'RE REFERRING INTO. BUT IF IT'S ONE OF THESE ONES THAT I LOOKED AT, IT WAS A DEFICIT BALANCE, YOU KNOW, TWO MILLION. SO ON PAPER, IT'S MAKING YOUR HUSBAND LOOK LIKE HE'S DOING BETTER. HE'S MOVING MONEY OVER, BUT IT HAS A HUGE DEFICIT BALANCE. SO IT'S REALLY JUST A IT'S JUST A PAPER THING. IT'S I MEAN, IT'S ONE BANK ACCOUNT AND IT'S SPLIT, BUT THIS ONE'S GOING EVERY TIME IT GOES UP BY 100000, THIS ONE'S GOING FURTHER IN THE HOLE BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT IT ALL EQUALS THE BANK STATEMENT. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE REQUIRE ANJOU. ALL THE BOND MONEY COMES IN AND IT HAS TO BE SEGREGATED, AND THAT WAS ONE OF HIS THINGS. SO IT'S ALL SITTING IN DIFFERENT. IT'S SITTING OVER AT A POOL SOMEWHERE. I WRITE A CHECK TO PAY THIS CONTRACTOR OUT OF OUR BANK ACCOUNT, THE SAME ONE THAT PAYS PAYROLL, THE SAME ONE THAT PAYS ALL THE BILLS FOR THE CITY, THE SAME WHEN THE TAXES COME INTO THE SAME. ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO WE WRITE A BILL, WE WRITE A CHECK AND WE PAY IT OUT OF THERE AND WE'RE USING WHATEVER MONEY IS IN THE BANK. BUT IT'S NOT THE BOND MONEY BECAUSE THE BOND MONEY SITTING OVER HERE. SO I HAVE TO REIMBURSE THAT BANK ACCOUNT FOR THAT. THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT IS ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, I SAID IT'S LIKE YOU BOTH PUT YOU PUT TWO PAYCHECKS IN THERE AND I GO SPENDING AND SPENDING AND SPENDING. I'VE SPENT ALL MY MONEY AND SOME OF HIS. AND IF YOU CAN'T TELL UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT LEDGER AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. AND SO WE HAVE TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK. SO A LOT OF TIMES THE TRANSFERS ARE JUST COMING TO REPLACE THE MONEY THAT WE DID SPEND OUT OF THE OPERATING ACCOUNT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE ONE ACCOUNT. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT NO MATTER WHAT GOING FORWARD, THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME IN, IT'S GOING TO GO SIT IN THIS ACCOUNT OVER HERE. AND THEN AS WE SPEND IT, IT'S GOING TO BE PUT BACK. IT SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO STUART AS WE SPEND THAT MONEY TO REPLACE IT, RIGHT. WHAT I WAS SEEING WAS A MILLION TRANSFER FROM A TO B AND THEN 750 FROM B TO C AND THEN HALF A MILLION FROM C TO A AND THEN TWO MILLION FROM A TO D. AND I'M SITTING THERE ON THIS ONE DAY AND I'M GOING. SOMEONE MADE 30 DIFFERENT, 30 OR 40 DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS. I'M LIKE, GOOD GOD. I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL IN THERE, YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD GO FROM, LIKE YOU SAID, I NEED TO PAY A BILL AT ACCOUNT. SO I TRANSFER A TO B AND I NEED A PAY ACCOUNT, A BAILOUT ACCOUNT, SEE A TO SEE. YOU WOULDN'T THINK YOU'D HAVE 15 DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS CIRCLING MONEY AROUND UNTIL IT LANDS, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE ALMOST ONCE A QUARTER, WE NEED SOMETHING. HE VERY NICELY, I THINK, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE WE ALMOST NEED A QUARTERLY REPORT OF ALL FUND TRANSFERS, KNOW BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSFERS, WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OH PROBABLY APPEARED ACCOUNTANT WASN'T SURE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE SO WELL AND THEY WOULD MOVE IT, BUT THEN THEY WOULD REVERSE IT TOO. IT WAS AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I REVIEWED. IT'S A LICENSED ACCOUNTANT, SO IT MAKES YOU WONDER, LIKE, WAS IT AN ACCIDENT? YOU KNOW, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TIMES OR AT SOME POINT? WELL, AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT, AND IT'S IN THE LETTER AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY FRIENDLY ENOUGH TERMS. BUT WHEN YOU SEE REVERSALS AND LOOK, I REVERSE TRANSACTIONS, BUT IT'S USUALLY WHEN I MAKE AN ERROR. AND SO WHEN YOU SEE A NUMBER OF THEM, IT'S IT'S JUST A CORRECTION OF AN ERROR AND A LOT OF THEM. BUT I WOULD HAVE I KNOW YOU DON'T NECESSARILY MAYBE BELIEVE IT, BUT BASED ON MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE AUDIT TO. I WOULD HAVE TO CONCUR THAT SOMETIMES I'M NOT QUITE SURE. JUST BECAUSE I HAVE THREE LETTERS BEHIND MY NAME AND ONE IN A WHILE, DOES IT NECESSARILY? I'VE SEEN SOME BAD PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK PERFECTION IS IS THE EXPECTATION I CAN BE OR WHATEVER, BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT MAY BE THE KNOWLEDGE WASN'T ALL THERE. I'M TRYING TO FIND A NICE WAY TO SAY IT, BUT IT DOES. I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT WASN'T SURE WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING OR WHERE. IF YOU NEED ME TO SAY ANYTHING, I'LL SAY IT JUST BASED ON A NUMBER OF OTHER TRANSACTIONS I'VE SEEN, NOT JUST EVEN RELATED TO THIS, BUT OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THE BIG ISSUES WERE A LEARNING CURVE ON BEHALF OF PERHAPS THE COUNCIL THAT WAS UP HERE IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CAN'T DESIGNATE YOUR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY OVER. THERE ARE CONTROLS FOR A REASON AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK THOSE CONTROLS ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND AND THOSE THINGS WEREN'T BEING DONE. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE JOB OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE CONTROLS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY STAYS INTACT. AND WE HAVE WE KNOW THOSE ARE FACTS ALREADY THAT WEREN'T HANDLED. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AS A COMMUNITY, WE'RE SCALING AND GROWING THE WAY WE ARE AND WE LEARN, UNFORTUNATELY. I MEAN, IT'S FOR ME WHAT I'M SEEING FROM WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH BROOKS AND WATSON ON THIS AUDIT. 0.49 PERCENT OF NOT HAVING LIKE BACKUP. [04:00:04] OF THE SAMPLE IS PRETTY DANG IMPRESSIVE, IN MY OPINION. AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT BART FOWLER IS ABLE TO MAKE OF THIS. I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT STEP IS FROM HIS LEGAL PERSPECTIVE WITH WITH BOND. THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SET OF SKILL SET THAT YOU ALL HAVE. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A FURTHER CONTINUATION OF THIS CONVERSATION AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THOSE ANSWERS TONIGHT FROM YOU GUYS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT FOR US TO EXPECT THE TWO OF YOU TO HAVE THOSE ANSWERS FOR US. SO I THINK WHAT YOU ALL HAVE PRESENTED IS IS VERY INFORMATIONAL AND HAS PAINTED A REALLY A VERY THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A BIG 380 TRANSACTION SAMPLING THAT'S HUGE FOR OVER $119 MILLION OF ALLOCATION. SO I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S A LOT OF INFO AND DATA THAT WE'VE PULLED FROM THIS. AND AGAIN, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT BART'S ABLE TO TAKE FROM THE WORKSHEETS AND PRESENT TO US AS A COUNCIL AND JUST DISSEMINATE IT FURTHER. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO PROCESS TONIGHT. SO AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM TO ME AND ASK. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT WHAT THE 3.7 WITH NO DOCUMENTATION DOES TELL YOU IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THE PAPER RECORD KEEPING WAS MAYBE JUST AS BAD AS THE ELECTRONIC, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR IT. I HAVE UNCOVERED A COUPLE OF THEM AND WE ARE STILL DIGGING THROUGH BECAUSE IT IS IT IS DISORGANIZED AND WE'RE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT WITH THE LIMITED STAFF I HAD WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT. WE I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH TIME WE SPENT FILLING THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY DOCUMENTS. SO. THAT'S IT'S BEEN A LOT OF TRYING TO FIND THINGS AND HUNT FOR THEM AND DO SOME OF THAT, BUT MR WATSON, YOUR FIRM CONTACTED THE THIRD PARTY FOR ALL 380 TRANSACTIONS. NO, TO VERIFY IT. NO, THE CITY HAD INVITED THIS THIRD PARTY. HAD THAT DATA. OK? YEP. AND FOR THE MAJORITY, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. NO, NO, NO. THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLARS. NO STAFF DOING A JOB. THEY REALLY DID ON THIS, PULLING ALL THOSE OVER A PERIOD OF, I THINK, FIVE YEARS. SO. RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT IT IS OR? YEAH. THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TRANSACTIONS REPORT BANK STATEMENTS TO VERIFY THE TRANSFER AS WE PULLED INVOICES TO TO SUPPORT THE EXPENDITURES. SO WE PULLED MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE. THOSE ADDITIONAL BANK STATEMENTS WHERE THE MONEY IS WERE ORIGINALLY PUT IN AND THEN OUR OPERATING ACCOUNT. THERE'S LOTS OF DOCUMENTS HE WENT THROUGH THAT WE PULLED TO, BUT I MEAN, A LOT OF PAPERWORK. I MEAN, IT'S MORE THAN JUST. AND THAT'S WHY IT TOOK LONGER. HAVE YOU DONE A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE BEFORE? NOT THIS SCOPE. NO, THIS GREAT WHITE PAPER FOR YOU GUYS. YEAH, THIS IS A LOT. YOU WERE WARNED WHEN WHEN WE HIRED YOU, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF FUN SPENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SPAN IT FOR YEARS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE AUDIT A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE GROWING IN. SO WE AS AN AUDIT FIRM ON AUDITS, WE TEST THE HECK OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RISK HERE, YOU KNOW, SO WE WE WE DEFINITELY TEST THE HECK OUT OF IT. IT'S AN AUDIT. YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM THIS, BUT YEAH, JUST A SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENT. THIS IS PRETTY LARGE. BUT I DEFINITELY TEST THE HECK OUT OF IT. WE'RE WORKING ON THE AUDIT, TOO. BUT I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT, THAT WE HAVE ALL THE WORK PRODUCT THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL. IT'S ALL THERE. IT'S NOT PAST AUDITS. IT WAS, OH, WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING AND OK, CAN YOU SHOW US? NO, I WANT IT GONE. I WANT THE SCRUTINY. YEAH, YOU KNOW, I WANT THAT. I WANT THAT. HEY, IF THAT'S THAT SPECIFIC LAND PURCHASE, IT WAS A GOOD POINT BY THE ATTORNEY THAT, YEAH, IT'S YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND A LAND PURCHASE, I CAN IDENTIFY THAT. BUT IF IT'S A LAND PURCHASE FOR THIS PURPOSE OR THAT PURPOSE, LIKE LIKE HE MENTIONED, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DISCERN THAT. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR APPROVAL WAS FOR ONE THING AND SOMETHING ELSE WAS DONE. AND YOU KNOW, WHILE IT MIGHT BE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE DEBT AGREEMENT, IT MAY NOT BE WHAT WAS APPROVED AND THAT IT'S WHERE YOU ALL DETERMINE WHAT ACTION TO TAKE. AND THE ONLY THE ONLY OTHER THING I'VE MENTIONED, BECAUSE YOU'D MADE SOME POINTS ABOUT PEOPLE PRESENTING TO YOU AND GIVING INFORMATION TO YOU. PART OF THESE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, WOULD GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION AND ALSO THAT CLAIM ON. SO THE POOLED CASH AND THE CLAIM ON CASH, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THEY RUN DEFICITS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THEY CAN'T. THEY SHOULD NOT BE NEGATIVE $3 MILLION AT THE END OF YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO THAT'S WHEN I KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL YOU ALL GET TO SEE THAT, BUT. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO THAT, YEAH, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THERE, SO. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE QUESTION BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO BROUGHT SOMETHING UP TO MAY THINK SO. YOU GUYS CHECK THE INVOICES AND EVERYTHING CHECKED OFF, BUT HOW DO WE KNOW THE INVOICES WHO VERIFIES THAT THE INVOICES THEMSELVES ARE LEGIT? YEAH. SO THAT'S A RISK OF OF THAT TYPE OF TESTING. [04:05:02] THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPPORT AND THOSE INVOICES COULD BE FABRICATED. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN HIRE YOU TO? THE REASON I SAY THAT IS. WELL, LET'S LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THIS. I MEAN, SO THE PERSON THAT DID IT, BECAUSE LET'S JUST SAY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT, THEIR NEW RIGHT, SO THEY WOULDN'T FABRICATE IT SO. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE OLD, THE OLD PERSONNEL FABRICATING VARIOUS. I MEAN, BECAUSE THESE ARE DIFFERENT, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS. IT'S NOT ALL FROM IBM. LET'S SAY I DON'T HAVE 380. THEY'RE DIFFERENT AND THEY ALL LOOK DIFFERENT. IT'S POSSIBLE, I'D SAY. I'D SAY UNLIKELY, VERY UNLIKELY REAL QUICKLY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS CONSTRUCTION RELATED. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS JUST ONE SINGLE INVOICE. WELL, SO YOU KNOW, WE SPENT $3 MILLION TO THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO DO THIS PROJECT. SO THERE'S 10 PAY GAP. SO TO HAVE AND YOU HAVE ENGINEER SIGN OFFS WHO ARE OR WHO ARE INSPECTING THESE PROJECTS TOO. SO THAT'S. BUT THAT COULD BE FABRICATED TO, I GUESS, THE STAMP COULD BE FABRICATED. OKAY. WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT, MARY. YEAH. WELL, I DIDN'T SAY THE QUESTION. SO PLEASE. SORRY. SO THERE'S A MOVIE BAD EDUCATION ABOUT A NEW JERSEY SCHOOL DISTRICT FRAUD ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. AND MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION BILLS ARE FRAUDULENTLY DONE. AND SO THE REASON I'M ASKING ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T THINK IS GETTING INTO THE WEEDS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD IS HOW DID WE SPEND LIKE THE AMPHITHEATER WAS $10 MILLION, AND THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT DELL DIAMOND SAID YOU COULD BUILD A STADIUM WITH SEATS CHEAPER THAN YOU BUILT THAT AMPHITHEATER. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT. AND SO A LOT OF OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONED HOW DID EVERYTHING COSTS SO MUCH MONEY? AND I'M JUST WONDERING HERE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED BEFORE. IF I WENT TO STILL A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND ALL I GOT TO DO IS MAKE A FRAUDULENT INVOICE AND PUT A STAMP ON IT, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME A THING I CAN'T DO ON THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT LEVEL WE DID SO THAT THEN THE ATTORNEYS CAN COME BACK LATER ON, OR THE BOND ATTORNEY CAN SAY, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THIS OR, HEY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I'M JUST ASKING YOU NOT TRYING TO GET IN THE WEEDS AND VERIFY EVERY SINGLE INVOICE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT LEVEL YOU DID SO THAT WE KNOW. SO THIS FAR AFTER THE FACT, IT'D BE HARD TO DO A LOT MORE THAN LOOK AT THOSE DOCUMENTS AND VERIFY THEM TESTS THAT WE DO IN SEASON. SO LET'S SAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR FISCAL YEAR AUDIT OVER NINE THOUSAND TWENTY ONE, WE WE ACTUALLY BIG PROJECTS WILL GO LOOK AT IT. AND YOU KNOW, OBSERVATION IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF EVIDENCE THAN THAN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIVE DOCUMENTS DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT VALUE, BUT WE CAN APPLY SOME COMMON SENSE AND SEE WHAT'S WORTH A MILLION AND 10 MILLION. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, APPROVALS, THOSE THINGS YOU TALK TO SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER. BUT IT'S ALWAYS THERE'S ALWAYS, YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS RISK, YOU KNOW, FRAUD. IT'S IT IS A RISK. I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. SO I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. MOVING FORWARD FROM ALL OF THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN ASSUME THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO YOU ISAAC TO HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PROCESSES THAT ALL HAD NOSE ON THEM. CAN BE FLIPPED OVER AND HAVE A YES. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. OK. YES. I MEAN, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT CAN'T I MEAN, SOME THINGS CAN BE KIND OF FILTERED OUT AND DEALT WITH SOME OF IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. LESSON LEARNED THE AFTER THE DISCUSSION THAT I HAD WITH MR. WATSON AND MS. RIOS. THE QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NEED TO BE PUT FORTH? SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. EXACTLY. BUT RECOGNIZING THAT. THIS IS ISAAC TURNER TALKING. IF THAT MANY PLAYERS. IF YOU CAN GET THAT MANY PEOPLE TO ACT THAT WAY. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN EVER PREVENT IT. BUT THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THOSE TWO SHEETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS OR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED WAS TO HELP SET UP THE ENVIRONMENT. SO THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. MM HMM. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THOSE NO'S HAVE TO BECOME YESES. AND THAT'S WHAT MS. RIOS AND I WILL. GET TOGETHER, MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. OR IF NOT, TELL YOU A REASON WHY NOT. IT'S GOT TO COME BACK HERE AND WE'VE GOT TO FLESH THAT OUT OR HAVE IT FLESHED OUT FOR YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? [04:10:04] ALL RIGHT, THANKS. I GUESS WE'LL SEE IN A FEW MONTHS WITH THE. THE AUDIT PREPARATION, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM ELEVEN FOR PRESENTATION OF HUTTO DEVELOPMENT TRENDS. [11.4. Presentation of Hutto's Development Trends. (Ashley Lumpkin) ] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, MARION COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THIS ITEM IN YOUR PACKET, SO I'LL JUST GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE SOME POINTS AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY SEEN SOME UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO WE'VE REALLY KIND OF TAKEN OFF. YOU CAN SEE IN THESE FIRST TWO GRAPHS HERE, WE'VE GOT TOTAL SINGLE-FAMILY PERMITS AND THEN ALSO TOTAL PERMITS BY YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE STARTED TRACKING THESE IN TWENTY TWELVE THAT WE WERE GETTING TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX SINGLE HOME PERMITS. AND THEN LAST YEAR, FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE ENDED ALMOST AT TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A LOT MORE THAN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO. AND THEN WE PROJECTED EVEN FROM THE 2020 NUMBERS. IT JUST SKYROCKETED. BUT THERE ARE IMPACTS TO ALL OF THIS, SO IN THIS MAP, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS IS ALL THE BLACK IS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. AND SOME OF THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE WE'VE GOT THREE POTENTIAL PROJECTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, BUT WENT THROUGH AND WE GIS MAPPED ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE ALSO LEFT ON THE UNDEVELOPED OR VACANT LAND. AND THEN YOU SEE THE NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS. SOME OF THAT IS COMMERCIAL YOU SEE ON HERE. ONE OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS HERE IS ACTUALLY THE BRUSHY CREEK AMPHITHEATER PARK. SO WE'VE GOT SCHOOLS ON THERE, SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE EVEN FOR NONRESIDENTIAL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A CITY IS THAT WE ARE GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS WITH RESIDENTIAL, BUT NOT WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. SO JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT, WE'VE AVERAGED SINCE TWENTY TWELVE. GRANTED, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE THERE'S THIS IS DEFINITELY AN AVERAGE FIVE HUNDRED SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITS SINCE WE'VE BEEN TRACKING. BUT WITH THAT, WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT COMMERCIAL GROWTH. WE'VE ONLY DONE ABOUT NINE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS A YEAR IF WE AVERAGED EVERYTHING OUT. THE BIGGEST YEAR WE HAD SO FAR, I THINK, WAS TWENTY OR TWENTY ONE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS CAME IN IN 2019. THAT'S WHERE YOU SAW HANSEN'S CORNER GET BUILT OUT. THAT'S WHERE YOU STARTED SEEING SOME OF CHRIS KELLY BOULEVARD STARTING TO GET BUILT OUT AND SOME OF THE SMALLER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT STARTED HAPPENING. SO. REALLY, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE THESE DEVELOPMENT TRENDS ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE COMP PLAN. THIS IS WHAT WAS CHOSEN ON IN THE LAST COMP PLAN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT, ALTHOUGH WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING SOME INCREASED REVENUE FROM THIS AND WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE INCREASED IMPACT FEES, THIS IS WHAT THAT MAP ALLOWED. AND SO WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT OUR DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT STARTING TO BALANCE THAT BACK OUT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS THAT WE CAN HAVE. YES, WE ARE GETTING SOME INCREASED REVENUE, BUT THAT ALSO DOES INCREASE THE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING WATER WASTEWATER IN OUR STREET SYSTEM. SO AS A REMINDER, BECAUSE THIS IS THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE FUTURE, LAND USE MAP IS WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOCUMENT COMING UP. SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START HAVING MORE OF BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS AN ABUNDANCE OF RESIDENTIAL. ONE OF THE THINGS IN I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU RIGHT HERE. RENTAL UNITS THAT WE HAVE EITHER FULLY APPROVED, THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THESE HAVE BEEN ZONED. WE'VE GOT FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED RENTAL UNITS COMING ONLINE APARTMENTS OR SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT. SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM AND WE'VE GOT THE TYPE AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN, TRADITIONAL IS GOING TO BE YOUR TYPICAL TWO THREE STOREY VERTICAL BUILD. HORIZONTAL IS GOING TO BE MORE OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT COTTAGE STYLE. YOU SAW SOME OF THAT WHICH SCHMITT CREEK AT THE EXTENSION OF LIVE OAK AND ALSO URBANA, BUT THEN ALSO BELL YARD AND FARLEY FARMS OVER OFF 60 AND 60 SOUTH AT ONE THIRTY SEVEN. THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT PROJECT, SO EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S A RENTAL PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED UNITS COMING ONLINE, THEN FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THAT'S ALL THE REMAINING LOTS OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. SO WE HAVE FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO LOTS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR REALLY MORE OF THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED ALREADY PROVED. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER FEW PERSPECTIVE. APPLICATIONS IN SUMMER IN THE PROCESS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY COME IN, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO US A LITTLE BIT AND WE'VE GOT AN AVERAGE ABOUT ANOTHER THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED LOTS, AT LEAST IN THE WINGS. [04:15:01] SO WE'VE GOT OVER EIGHT THOUSAND LOTS RIGHT NOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN A BUBBLE, LET'S SAY FIVE THOUSAND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME TO FRUITION IN THIS NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. BUT YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE ALL ON THIS MAP IN THE BLOC, INCLUDING THOSE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS ON DO WE. SO I DON'T SEE THIS IN THE PACKET. THE SNAP WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PACKET, IT WAS NOT READY. CAN WE HAVE THESE? ABSOLUTELY. AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I JUST SAW, YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL. YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. AND ALSO, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE 20 40? AT SOME POINT, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, AFTER ALL, I DON'T WANT TO EVER GIVE OUT INFORMATION WITHOUT GIVING IT TO COUNCIL FIRST. IT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING OUT TO CPEC JUST SO THAT THEY SEE IT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ALSO GIVING TO THE CONSULTANTS OF. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN REAL LIFE. CERTAINLY THIS PORTION, THIS IS STUFF THAT I KIND OF GEEK OUT OVER AND WE START GOING INTO WHAT ARE WE DOING THIS YEAR? AND I KNOW THAT MY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, WHO IS FANTASTIC, HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 2012. AND WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2018, I WAS LIKE, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN BEAT LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS. MAYBE WE CAN JUST BEAT THEM BY A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN WHEN WE GOT INTO IT, I THINK AT THE END OF TWENTY TWENTY, SHE SAID, DON'T TELL ME WE'RE GOING TO BEAT THESE NUMBERS. AND SO I DIDN'T SAY A WORD IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND WE SKYROCKETED. SO THERE ARE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRAINTS. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME UPCOMING PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU ON THOSE IN THE COMING MONTH, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS THE CITY OVERALL IS JUST HOW MUCH RESIDENTIAL WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT ON THE BOUNDS. BUT ABSOLUTELY, I WILL GET YOU THESE OTHER NUMBERS AS WELL WITH THE FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED. AND CERTAINLY IF HE WANTS PROJECT SPECIFICS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ACTUALLY ON THIS? ABOUT 5000 KIND OF ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT, LIKE ESTIMATED COMPLETION, LIKE HOW FAR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE OUT, LIKE TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, LIKE SOME OF THEM ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ABOUT TWO YEARS OUT BECAUSE IF WE'RE ONLY NOW TALKING TO THEM, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO EVEN START GETTING A HOUSE CODE SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY FLUSH THE TOILET, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER WASTEWATER IMPACTS. YOU'RE USUALLY ABOUT TWO YEARS OUT FROM THE TIME THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO ZONE. BUT FOR SOME OF THESE, ESPECIALLY ON THIS LIST WITH BROOKLYN'S AT THE TOP, YOU CAN SEE THAT BROOKLYN'S HAS A FEW LOTS LEFT OVER IN SECTIONS ONE AND TWO, BUT THEY STILL GOT A FEW MORE HUNDRED LOTS COMING ONLINE IN THE NEXT THREE SECTIONS, SO THOSE WON'T TAKE THAT LONG BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX FOR BROOKLYN IS EITHER NEARING COMPLETION TO COME HERE FOR ACCEPTANCE THERE SOMEWHERE IN THAT LINE, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND KIND OF I CAN I'LL GO OUT, DRIVE IT AND GRACIE IT. SO DEFINITELY THAT THING'S ON IN THE MIDDLE SECTION ARE GOING TO BE THINGS TO BE COMING ON A LOT QUICKER BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALREADY APPROVED. YOU'LL SEE ON THERE ACTUALLY SOME PROJECTS THAT YOU HAD TONIGHT AS FAR AS THE THOMASIN PID THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED EARLIER. THE STATUS OF HUTTO THAT PRELIMINARY HAD ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE LOTS ON IT. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT, THE LIGHT L. WALKER APPROVED PRELIMINARY. BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE THIS BREAKDOWN WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY IS IS ASKING OF LIKE THE MATRICULATION FRAME OUT OF LIKE THESE SHOULD BE COMING ONLINE THIS MANY AND QUARTER AND Q3 OR THIS MANY IN Q4 IS THAT. YEAH, I CAN WORK ON THAT. I DEFINITELY SHOWN ANDREW WHAT I'VE DONE BEFORE FOR THE BUDGETING. IT'S KIND OF A GUESS. I MEAN, I CAN I'LL BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH AND WE GOT TO THAT EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY MARK, I WAS LIKE, OK, WE'RE ABOUT 50 OVER WHAT I WAS THINKING WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE GOT INTO LAST YEAR, JUST BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WHICH IS USUALLY A LITTLE BIT SLOWER IN DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS, BECAUSE WE HIT THAT KIND OF GROSS RAINY SEASON AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE DID OVER 500 PERMITS IN TWO MONTHS, AND DECEMBER IS ONE OF OUR SHORTEST MONTHS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TIME OFF AND YOU ONLY REALLY GET BE WORKING WEEKS WITHIN THERE. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE THAT IT WAS JUST UNPRECEDENTED TO CONTINUALLY ONE BIG MONTH, NO BIG DEAL. WE WERE HITTING NUMBERS THAT I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN HUTTO HIT. THERE WAS ONE MONTH LAST YEAR THAT WE MADE MORE IN REVENUE THAN WE DID IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN FOR ALL OF DEVELOPMENT. SO NEXT QUESTION IS, IS IT ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL US KIND OF WHAT A HEALTHY, BALANCED RATIO SHOULD BE FOR WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR RESIDENTIAL WITH VERSUS COMMERCIAL? LIKE HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO BUMP UP THOSE NUMBERS ON COMMERCIAL? TO KIND OF FIND SOME BALANCE IN MY EXPERIENCE, A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE BASED ON SOME OF THE ROOFTOPS, AND I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT NOW. THAT'S A PART OF THE PLAN DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO COME AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU NOW. PART OF THAT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IF WE CONTINUE THIS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR OUR TAX RATE LONG TERM? IF WE SHIFT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE ON THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE COLOR A LITTLE [04:20:04] BIT MORE TO BE EITHER HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SOMETHING THAT WOULD THEN BRING IN ADDITIONAL TAX FUNDING FOR SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT OUR TAX RATE COULD POTENTIALLY BE, THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THAT DEBT SERVICE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING AS PART OF THAT ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND THAT PLAN WE'VE GOT UPCOMING. I THINK WE CAN SEE A DECREASE, A DECREASE IN SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I KNOW WHENEVER WE APPROVE KIND OF SOUTHGATE AND COVERED BRIDGE, A LOT OF THAT WAS KIND OF WE APPROVED LIKE PHASE FOUR AND THREE FIRST BECAUSE THEY'RE THE FURTHEST FROM THE LOOP. ARE THOSE NUMBERS ALREADY LOCKED IN NOW THAT THEY'RE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LOOP HAS BEEN HAPPENING AND ALL THAT'S BEEN FIRMING UP? OR ARE WE STILL IS IT STILL KIND OF A GUESS AS FAR AS COVERED BRIDGE IN SOUTHGATE AND KIND OF ALONG THAT CORRIDOR? IS THAT JUST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS? YEAH, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE THE PLOTTED AND THE PLOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, A NUMBER OF LOTS THAT WHAT WE'VE GOT UP HERE, SOUTHGATE ACTUALLY IS. PHASE FOUR IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO THEY'VE ONLY GOT TWO LOTS LEFT. D.R. HORTON MOVES REALLY QUICK. THEY DROP OFF BIG STACKS OF PERMITS. IT'S A GREAT DAY. AND THEN WE GET WHEN WE DID THOSE, WE APPROVED, I THINK, THREE AND FOUR FIRST BECAUSE THEY WERE FURTHEST BACK FROM THE LOOP. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF LIKE THE THE LATER PHASES, LIKE ONE AND TWO, LIKE DO YOU POTENTIALLY SEE A DECREASE THERE? IF ANYTHING, BECAUSE THE LOOP IS ONLY ABOUT THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET, YOU'RE NOT SEEING A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE AND THAT LOSS HOPING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 12. OK. ALL RIGHT. I THINK REALLY SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TO THE FIVE THOUSAND MARK, BUT CERTAINLY WHERE WE DO SEE THEM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THESE AGAIN. I HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF THAT HELPS ME SO MUCH ON THESE THINGS WITH, HEY, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THIS ONE'S ALREADY EVERY TIME SOMETHING COS SHE ACTUALLY GOES BACK IN AND DECREASES THAT REMAINING A LOT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT STILL HAVE ONE OR TWO UNDEVELOPED PLOTS JUST DIDN'T DEVELOP. SO AS WE SEE THEM SHIFTING, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET IT. OOPS. WRONG WAY, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN SEE HERE SOME OF THOSE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS THEY HAD ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. I THINK THOSE TWO THAT YOU MENTIONED WERE THE TWO THAT MAY BE IMPACTED. EVEN THEN WITH COVERED BRIDGE AND THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND PART OF COVERED BRIDGE AGAIN IS ON THE RENTAL BECAUSE WE ALLOWED TOWNHOMES AND SOME SENIOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT AREA. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE. THIS IS AWESOME. THIS IS GREAT. GOOD JOB. WAIT A GO, ASHLEY AND TEAM. WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANKS, ASHLEY. SURE. AND I'LL FOLLOW THIS UP, PROBABLY TOMORROW, I'LL GET YOU ALL THESE MAPS AND THESE NUMBERS. OK, RIGHT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 11 SIX UPDATE ON WHETHER WINTERIZATION MAYOR I'D LIKE TO [11.6. Update on Weather Winterization. (Padma Patla) ] REQUEST A FIVE MINUTE OR 10 MINUTE RECESS. I'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 11 TWENTY THREE. MAN, I WAS ALL RIGHT. IT'S ELEVEN THIRTY FOUR. BACK FROM RECESS. MOVE ON TO ITEM 11.6 UPDATE ON WHETHER WINTERIZATION. AND SHE'S GLAD LAST WEEK WHEN, OK, BUT I WAS GOING TO MENTION WE HAD A GOOD TEST RUN LAST WEEK, SO CRAZY. BUT NOW YOU CAN COME OUT AND TELL US EVERYTHING THAT WORKED. YEAH, YEAH, ACTUALLY, THAT IS TRUE. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIGURE THIS. OK. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. HOW WE PREPARE, HOW WE PLAN AND HOW WE EXECUTE THE PLAN DURING A WINTER WEATHER STORM. LIKE IT WAS JUST SAYING WE WE DID HAVE A TRIAL RUN LAST WEEK AND IT ACTUALLY DID GO WELL. I BELIEVE YOU ALL SAW THE LIST OF WHAT WE GO THROUGH FOR OUR PREPARATIONS. I MUST SAY KUDOS TO OUR CREWS WHO WORKED REALLY HARD AND THINGS WENT WELL BECAUSE OF OUR PREPARATION. AND SO I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS WENT SMOOTHLY AND OUR GOAL WAS TO KEEP OUR KEEP OUR CITIZENS OF HUTTO SAFE. AND SO IT WAS A GOOD RUN. SO HERE HERE'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR SYSTEMS AND FACILITIES. SO WHAT WE HAVE UNDER PUBLIC WORKS IS UTILITIES, WHICH IS BASICALLY WATER. WASTEWATER STREETS AND DRAINAGE ALSO FALL UNDER HOUSES, AS WELL AS FACILITIES AND FLEET. SO THIS I NEED TO PRESS THIS, SO THIS IS WHAT WE OWN AND MAINTAIN IN OUR CITY. [04:25:04] THERE'S WATER WELLS, WE'VE GOT LIFT STATIONS, WE'VE GOT WATER SITES. WE ALSO MAINTAIN BUILDINGS, FIVE BUILDINGS ON THE VEHICLES. I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I RECIO ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT ON THE VEHICLES, BUT WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY HAVE NINETY NINE WITH NINE ON THE WAY, NINE PD VEHICLES ON THE WAY. SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. SO THIS IS THIS IS OUR I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING DIDN'T SHOW UP HERE, BUT THIS IS OUR UTILITIES FOR WATER WASTE WATER HERE. WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS INSULATED THE VALVES AND SOME CRITICAL PIPING. I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES AFTER THE SLIDE THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT. WE ALSO CHECK SOME OF THE CHECKS THAT WE DO HERE, AND THAT WAS LIST WAS ON THE LIST AS WELL AS WE CHECKED THE PRESSURE GAUGES, WE CHECK THE LEVEL INDICATORS. WE ALSO GO AROUND AND CHECK EVERY TEST, EVERY GENERATOR. WE TURN IT ON, ENSURE THAT IT COMES ON. WE ALSO CHECK THE FUEL LEVELS AND WE DON'T DO IT ONCE WE DO IT A NUMBER OF TIMES, JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING COVERED SO THAT THAT CHECKS THOSE CHECKS ARE DONE BY OUR GUYS. WE ALSO CHECK THE WATER TANK LEVELS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE THERE IN CASE SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS. SO THAT'S ONE THING. WE ALSO CHECK SOME OTHER SMALLER THINGS THAT WE DO AND WHICH IS NOT TO BE ACTUALLY IGNORED IS LOOK AT SOME OF OUR RESTOCK, SOME OF OUR HEATING GEAR LIKE THE BLOW TORCHES AND HEAT BULBS, ET CETERA. OH, IT SHOWED, LIKE I PROMISED, I DO HAVE A FEW SLIDES OF OUR PICTURES HERE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS OUR SHALLOW WATER PLANT, WHICH SHOWS SOME MILITARIZATION THAT WE DID ON THE EXPOSED PIPES THERE. ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE HAVE FRAMES WHICH JUST A LITTLE PICTURE OF OUR FRAMES, WHICH CARL STERN, ONE THING THAT'S MISSING HERE IS OUR NORTHWEST. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT MS., BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT WE HAVE HERE AS WELL. SO JUST BRIEFLY GOING OVER OUR STREETS AND DRAINAGE WHAT WE DO IN ORDER TO PREPARE, WE ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SAND PILES. I SEE A PICTURE OF THE SAND POWDER THAT'S ACTUALLY FROM OUR YARD, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED THAT. SO WE WE ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT SAND. WE ALSO HAVE AN ORGANIZED EFFORT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH THEM. WE WILL MONITOR THE ROADS, OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT AND THEN WE LIKE I SAID, WE ARE IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH THEM. WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THE SAND SPREADER THAT WE HAVE IS READY WITH SAND AND READY TO GO. WE ALSO MONITOR THE ROADS PRONE TO FLOODING. WE, I GUESS WE HAVE SEEN THIS ENOUGH TO KNOW WHICH ROADS ARE TROUBLE TROUBLE MAKERS FOR US. SO WE WE ACTUALLY TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF IT AND DO SOME EXTRA MONITORING ON THOSE ROADS. AND WE WORK, LIKE I SAID, CLOSELY WITH PD. SO WE'RE WE'RE MONITORING THE ROADS TO TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STREET SIGNAGE THAT IS NECESSARY. BY THAT, I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO CLOSE THE STREETS OR SOMETHING, SO WE WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE SIGNAGE IN PLACE, WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE STREETS. SO FOR FACILITIES, WE DO HAVE BUILDINGS THAT WE MAINTAIN, WE ENSURE THAT THE BUILDINGS ALL HAVE COVERS. HOST COVERS AND THEN WE TEST THE GENERATORS ON THE BUILDINGS AS WELL, JUST LIKE WE DO ON OUR LIVE STATIONS AND OTHER LOCATIONS FOR FUEL LEVELS, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT THEY COME ON SOME OF THE PARK'S RESTROOMS AND STUFF. WE'VE GOT SOME. WE GO THERE AND ENSURE THAT THE ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE WORKING AND THEY'RE ON. THIS IS JUST TO ENSURE THERE'S NO FREEZING PIPES AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO GO THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR JUST NOT HAVING TO ATTEND TO THAT. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE ELECTRIC HEATERS ARE ON AND ALSO THE HEAT PUMPS AND PARKS. I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD SOME INCIDENTS BEFORE, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THERE AND WE TURN OFF THE WATER AND THE DRAIN PIPES SO THEY DON'T FREEZE AND THEY DON'T BURST. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHECKS THAT WE DO AS WELL. SO THIS IS ON FLEET I MENTIONED BEFORE IT'S 108 VEHICLES, BUT NINETY NINE IS WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE INVENTORY RIGHT NOW AND NINE POLICE VEHICLES ON THE WAY. NOW THE SECOND BULLET HERE, KIND OF. I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE A FEW MORE, BUT WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES. WE ALSO HAVE WE ALSO ENSURE THAT THE VEHICLES ARE ALL FULL OF GAS AND THE TANKS ARE FULL. WE DO HAVE ONE HUNDRED GALLON DIESEL TANK, WHICH WE INSURE IS FULL AS WELL. [04:30:05] SOME OF THE CHECKS THAT WE DO SOME, WE ALSO ENSURE THAT WE DO HAVE JUMPER CABLES IN ALL THE TRUCKS. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'LL NEED ONE AND WHEN IT'S FREEZING OUTSIDE YOU, YOU KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT WHATEVER YOU NEED HANDY. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING WE DO AS WELL. SO HERE'S OUR GOOD LOOKING CREW OUT THERE, AND THIS IS OUR NEW BACKTRACK. THERE WAS A NICE PICTURE, SO I THOUGHT I'LL I'LL PUT IT IN HERE. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY A BIG THANKS AGAIN TO TO THE WHOLE CREW THAT REALLY WENT AROUND AND MADE SURE THAT OUR STREETS ARE SAFE. AND LIKE I SAID, LAST WEEK, WAS A GOOD TEST RUN. WITH THAT, IT'S A NICE SHORT, BRIEF PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. I'VE PADMA THANKS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL THIS THING? CATCH ALL OFF GUARD. I'M SORRY. DID ANYTHING CATCH YOU OFF GUARD? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAD EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF AND READY. NOT THIS ONE DID NOT CATCH US OFF GUARD BECAUSE I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE HAD A TRIAL RUN, WHICH REALLY HELPED US, I THINK, BUT NOT REALLY NOTHING OFF GUARD. WE WERE WE WERE PRETTY GOOD PREPARED, BUT WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, AS GOOD AS PREPARED AS WE ARE, WE ALWAYS WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, HEY, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE BETTER? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. YEAH. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, SO. YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS, SO PADMA ANSWERS ONE, ONE OR TWO THINGS YOU WISH YOU HAD THAT WE DIDN'T BUDGET OR THAT'S ON ORDER. THAT'S REALLY I'VE TOP YOUR MIND LIKE I KNOW, LIKE THE COUNTY HAS SOME SORT OF SOCKS THEY PUT ON TIRES FOR ALL THEIR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO BUDGET SEASON THAT? WELL, I DIDN'T CATCH US OFF GUARD WOULD BE A REALLY NICE TO HAVE OFF GUARD. MAYBE NOT, BUT I DID HAVE A TALK WITH OUR CREWS WE WE MADE EVERY WEDNESDAY. SO ONE THING I DID ASK EVERYBODY WAS WHAT WOULD YOU JUST PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU ASK? SO ONE THING THEY DID, TWO THINGS THEY MENTIONED WAS THE LIQUID SPRAY THAT THE TECH START HAS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IN ORDER SO THAT WE CAN PREPARE IN ADVANCE OF THE STORM COMING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY MENTIONED. ALSO, A STREET SWEEPER. JUST SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE ONCE WE SEND IT, WE GO BACK OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, STREETS ARE A MESS. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE WALKING ON SAND EVERYWHERE, SO A STREET SWEEPER WOULD BE NICE AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL SINCE ITEM 11, SEVEN, 11, 10, 11, 11 IS JUST COUNSEL MATTERS. ITEM 11 12. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT RYAN STILL AWAKE AND THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. [11.12. Presentation by Titan Development (Councilmember Villareal Salvo, Mayor Snyder)] I'D LIKE TO MOVE 11 12 UP. I'M HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO TO ITEM 11 12 PRESENTATION BY TITAN DEVELOPMENT. IT WASN'T SO MUCH A PRESENTATION JUST TO COMMENT FROM WHAT I ADDRESSED EARLIER AND. AGAIN, TO START CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION OUT OF THE PARK AND THEN ADDRESS IF COUNCIL DOES WANT TO ADDRESS A PERMIT FOR AFTER HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT WE THINK WE COULD DO TO OR WHAT THE CITY COULD DO TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED. SO JUST TO LET THE REST OF THE COUNCIL KNOW A FEW WEEKS AGO TIGHTENED DEVELOPMENT AND THE REFORMS NEIGHBORHOOD MET AT ST. PATRICK'S CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THEY HAD A LITTLE ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION AND MAYOR SNYDER AND MYSELF WERE IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL. AND IT WAS IT WAS REALLY DISCUSSING THINGS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED YEARS AGO WHEN PHASE ONE WAS HAPPENING. AND AND THEN KNOWING THAT BRIAN AND SAL, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, THE TITAN WHO WAS IN ATTENDANCE, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY ON THE PROJECT DURING PHASE ONE. BUT THEY ARE HERE NOW. AND THEY GAVE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF TITANS LIKE HISTORY, OF WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO HUTTO AND HOW INVOLVED THEY ARE ON COMMUNICATION AND SO TOOK TO TOOK TO HEART EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID FROM THE RESIDENTS. BUT THEN ALSO, IT WAS NOT JUST LISTENING, IT WAS ALSO LET'S TRY TO COME UP SOME SOLUTIONS GOING FORWARD, AND SOME OF THOSE WERE OPENING UP THE CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION MORE INTENSELY. SO ALLOWING TITAN RIGHT TRANSPARENCY, ALLOWING TITAN TO HAVE A SPOT WITHIN THE [04:35:01] EMORY FARMS, WHOSE FACEBOOK PAGE TO DO REGULAR UPDATES. THAT WAS ONE THING THAT CAME UP ASKING TITAN TO DO REGULAR UPDATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON HOW PHASE TWO IS GOING AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, IT BECAME, YOU KNOW, NOISE ISSUES. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING IN AN ALREADY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREA RIGHT THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO CONCRETE POURS. BRIAN WAS ABLE TO VERY IN-DEPTH TALK ABOUT THE CONCRETE PROCESS. AND SO THAT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR THE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE THERE THAT DON'T MAYBE KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE PORES TAKE 18 HOURS AND CONCRETE BUSINESS IS NOT A VERY SHORT TIME TURNAROUND, AND BRIAN EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. SO AGAIN, IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL AND IT BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THESE THINGS ARE PLANNED, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL KNOW IN ADVANCE. YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION KNOWS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO AN 18 HOUR POUR. AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR TITAN OR THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO A POOR IN 30 DAYS ON THIS DATE. SO YEAH, WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS BASICALLY A 30 DAY NOTIFICATION FOR WEEK OF SAY, REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, ON MARCH 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO BE POURING CONCRETE. AND THEN WHEN 15 DAYS ROLLS AROUND, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS. AND THE ONLY REASON FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS WOULD BE IF THERE WERE WEATHER OR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY EVEN WEEK OF WE CAN DO NOTIFICATIONS OF AGAIN THROUGH THE FACEBOOK PAGE, SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, EMERY FARMS OR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THERE TO THE TO THE EAST OF US. AND THAT WOULD BE KIND OF OUR OUR WAY OF MAKING SURE THEY'RE FULLY AWARE AND CAN PREPARE. IF THE NOISE IS IS A NUISANCE TO THEM, THEN THEY CAN. THEY CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND AND BE PREPARED, AT LEAST NOT HAVE IT BLINDSIDING THEM. AND WHAT WAS HELPFUL ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE PORES MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR, LIKE THE LONG 18 HOUR EARLY MORNING, IS THE MOST ACTIVITY THAT WE SEE ON THOSE ON THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS ARE CONCRETE. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS MOST RECENTLY, WHEN? WHEN? AFTER HOURS, PERMITS WERE NOT ALLOWED. IS THAT A NORMAL? PERIOD OF CONCRETE PAUSE WOULD BE MAYBE, SAY, FOUR PAWS, AND THEY WOULD ALL HAPPEN IN ABOUT MAYBE A WEEK OR WEEK AND A HALF TIME SPAN. WHEN YOU CAN'T OPERATE IN THOSE LARGE QUANTITY AMOUNTS OF PAWS, THOSE FOUR PAWS TURN INTO MORE LIKE 14 OR 16 PAWS. AND SO THERE MANY THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THE CONCRETE IN ORDER TO. SUCH AS ADDITIVES. AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORKING IT A LOT MORE TO BE ABLE TO FIT IT WITHIN ONLY A 12 HOUR WINDOW OF TIME FRAME. AND SO YOU END UP JUST ONE MAKING CONSTRUCTION LONGER, BUT ALSO MAKING THE PROCESS OF THE THE LOUDEST PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION LONGER AS WELL. SO THE WAY THAT WE LIKE TO LOOK AT IT IS WE WE'D LIKE YOU TO WE'D LIKE TO GET IN AND GET OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE MOST NOISE. AND HOPEFULLY, AGAIN, BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON DOWN THE ROAD KNOWING THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. OK. WELL, BRIAN, THANKS FOR YOU GUYS COMING, AND I KNOW WHEN I TALKED TO JOE ABOUT IT ALL. APPRECIATE YOUR ALL'S WILLINGNESS TO TO COME OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK AS A COUNCIL WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS IS TITAN WANTS TO DO THESE OVERNIGHT PORTS, BUT CURRENTLY IT'S NOT SET UP IN ORDINANCE, A PROCESS TO DO THAT TO WHERE ISAAC DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO OVERNIGHT PORTS AND AND WHEN WE'RE NOT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT WAS IF THESE HAD TO HAPPEN, WOULD THEY'D RATHER HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DAY OR TWO OF THESE CONCRETE PORTS STARTING AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING? OR THEY'D RATHER HAVE IT SPLIT UP, LIKE YOU SAID, OVER WHATEVER IT DOES IN DIFFERENT PAWS. AND IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF AS LONG AS THEY WERE COMMUNICATED TO. THEY CAN MAKE PLANS AND THEY WOULD DEAL WITH IT. AND SO ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO TAKE THAT APPROACH CITYWIDE AT SOME POINT RIGHT NOW, THEY STILL CAN'T DO THEIR PAWS. AND SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS GOES HERE. INPUT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING THAT UPDATING POSSIBLY THE NOISE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW A PROCESS TO WHERE THE CITY MANAGER CAN ALLOW SOMEONE WITH PROPER NOTIFICATION ALL THAT TO [04:40:02] GO OTHERWISE. TITAN, I THINK YOU START YOUR BILLING IN MARCH, RIGHT? WE'RE BUILDING SIX. YEAH. SO BUILDING SIX IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE, BUT JUST 050 IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE ALREADY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TO OPERATE OUTSIDE OF OURS FOR KNOWING THAT IT IS THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CAUSING JUST A NUISANCE. THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE. THERE IS A PERMIT IN APPLICATION THAT DOES GO THROUGH THE CITY RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT RIGHT? YEAH, IT BELIEVES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY APPROVES IT. SO IF THERE'S JUST MORE ROBUST, IT'S. LUCE, I WOULD SAY ON IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST UNDERSTANDING OF OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO PRESENT AS FAR AS TIME FRAMES, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, DATES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST A FORM THAT'S KIND OF JUST COMMENT SECTION. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THE DECISION EASIER FOR STAFF. I FEEL LIKE CODIFYING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YARDAGE LIKE WE DO FOR OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR DEVELOPMENT. I THINK CODIFYING THOSE THINGS AND PUTTING THAT INTO THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND DOING THAT. BEFORE YOU'LL ALL START ON, BUILDING SIX WOULD BE A GOOD NEXT STEP FOR US AND GIVING THE CITY MANAGER SIGNATORY APPROVAL FOR THE SPECIAL PERMITS. MAKES SENSE. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING? IT IS IT CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF CORRECT? YEAH, WHICH I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'VE JUST BEEN DECLINING ALL OF THEM CITYWIDE, RIGHT? YEAH, BITCH. AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF BROUGHT TO ME WHEN I TALKED TO JOE, I TOLD HIM, I SAID, HEY, HOW ARE THINGS GOING? HE SAID IT'S BOOMING AND I SAID, WELL, NOW EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CONCRETE POURS AND SOME ARE COMING UP. AND I SAID, IF YOU GUYS REALLY WANT TO GO TO POUR CONCRETE MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN TALK ON THE CITY COUNCIL OF LIMITING THE HOURS. THEY ACTUALLY REDUCING THE OPERATING HOURS FOR CONSTRUCTION TO SIX WITH NOTHING ON SUNDAY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE KIND OF STARTED REALIZING THAT, HEY, THE QUICKER WE CAN HEAD ALL THIS OFF, THE BETTER. SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME. AND WITH YOUR BEING COMMUNICATING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY, COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE YOU COME BACK AND AS WELL AS OTHER CONSTRUCTION FOLKS TO FIGURE OUT IF WE DO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, IF WE'RE DOING IT IN A MANNER THAT. IS NOT NOT FIXING WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO FIX. BUT ANYWAY, BRIAN, THE PUBLIC COMMENT YOU MADE EARLIER THIS EVENING, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEND THAT TO COUNCIL OR TO US SO WE COULD SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, THAT MAY BE MS. TO DO SO BECAUSE YOU HAD YOU HAD MENTIONED SOME BENCHMARKS WE HAD ASKED HILL ABOUT. SO WE ARE I'M PREPARING AN INITIAL COMMENT TO GO INTO THE FACEBOOK PAGE AS WELL, OK? TO KIND OF, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF REAFFIRM EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE THIS EVENING AND PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUST TO BUILD AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO. THANK YOU. COOL. SO I CAN SEE WHY THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY TO GET THESE BIG PORTS DONE QUICKLY. WHAT I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF IS THAT WE DON'T JUST OPEN UP A PRECEDENT WHERE WE'RE APPROVING FOR ANYBODY TO DO MIDNIGHT PAWS ALL AROUND THE CITY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU KNOW, DURANGO IS BUILDING 100 HOUSES AND THEY CUT A DEAL WITH SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY CAN GET BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY. BUT NOBODY'S NOBODY'S HAULING CEMENT OUT AT MIDNIGHT SO THEY CAN GET ALL MIDNIGHT PAWS. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT 100 HOUSES GOING IN WITH MIDNIGHT PAWS, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE OLD TOWN AND HUTTO TOWN SQUARE ARE UP IN ARMS BECAUSE THERE'S OVERNIGHT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON LEFT. AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT'S VERY BAD. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REASON. AND YET YOU HAVE TO BE FAIR BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM, HOW DO YOU DENY IT TO OTHER PEOPLE? SO WE'VE GOT A SET CRITERIA AROUND IT TO MAKE IT TO MAKE IT WORK. I WOULD SUGGEST QUANTITY OF A SINGLE PLACEMENT. AGAIN, WE'RE POURING 40000 TO 50000 SQUARE FEET. AND THOSE GUYS ARE MAYBE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND. OBVIOUSLY, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND TIMES 50, MAYBE. BUT AGAIN, YOU RUN INTO THINGS WITH WITH SPLITTING WHEN THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED FOR 200000 SQUARE FEET AND YOU NOW MAKE ONE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT PAWS. THERE'S A LOT MORE COLD JOINTS IN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY IS THERE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST IT'S A DIFFERENT CALCULATION AND NOT THE WAY THE THE INDUSTRY SET UP. SO THAT MAYBE IF COUNSEL IS OPEN TO A SUGGESTION FOR FOUR WAY TO IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETTING A THRESHOLD, SOUNDS LIKE THAT COULD WORK AS LONG AS THAT'S LEGAL. AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD WITH THAT. YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT JUST CANCELED TEX-MEX IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE [04:45:05] DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF INTEREST TO THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE PAUSE FOR LESS LITERALLY THEIR JOB. AND SO THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION AND SO MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE IT OUT HERE AND HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT MORE. AGAIN, THIS WAS KIND OF AN INITIAL BLUSH TO SEE HOW YOU GUYS FELT TOWARDS THE ISSUE, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE INPUT AS NECESSARY. COOL. SO LAST THING, IT DOESN'T REALLY INVOLVE RYAN, BUT MORE OF THIS IS ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL PROBABLY FUTURE DISCUSSION. SO PHASE ONE PHASE ONE WAS DONE. SEVERAL PROMISES WERE MADE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT BE THE BERM AND HOW THE LIGHTING AND GARAGE DOORS. SOME OF IT BECAME FIX, BUT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOUND OUT IS THAT AND WE'VE ALL REALIZED, IS THAT PHASE ONE IS DONE. THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN SOLD. TITAN IS NOT AN OWNER, AND SO THEY CAN'T REALLY GET INVOLVED IN THOSE PARTICULAR MATTERS. BUT A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR THERE'S ACTUALLY A LADY THAT WHEN YOU LOOK OUT HER BACKYARD, YOU CAN SEE LITERALLY THE BUMPER OF A SEMI, THE WAY THE GRADING OF THE LAND IS ABOVE HER FENCE AND SHE'S GOT THE STANDARD, YOU KNOW, SIX FOOT FENCE. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T FIX THAT. BUT SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE BERMS AND THINGS THE CITY WAS ON THE HOOK TO PUT IN AND THE CITY WAS ON THE HOOK FOR THE TREES. AND SO WE BASICALLY PLANTED LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE THREE GALLON TREE, BUT IT'S THE SMALLEST TREE MONEY CAN BUY. IT'S LIKE A ONE CALIBER AND IT'S BIG. YEAH, AND EVERYBODY WAS JOKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL THEY BE ALIVE WHEN THIS TREE GETS BIG? AND SO THAT MAY BE A DISCUSSION COMING UP THAT I THINK AS A COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET TIME, WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WERE SAID THEY WOULD BE DONE AND WE KIND OF CHEAPENED IT AT THE END AND DIDN'T DO IT. TITANS GETTING THE BLAME FOR IT AND MAYBE THE GUYS BEFORE HELPED MAKE IT THAT WAY OR WHATEVER, BUT THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY ACTUALLY FALLS ON THE CITY. WE TOOK THAT ON AND TO CLARIFY AGAIN, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WERE SOLVED THROUGH UPDATED CODE FOR PHASE TWO THAT THAT WE'RE CONCERNED. SO THIS ISN'T A REOCCURRING, RIGHT? MOVING FORWARD AND DOING THE SAME THING, RIGHT? A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. THIS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MR. MAYORS. YEAH, JUST THAT ONE STRIP THERE. SO THERE MAY BE, I GUESS, WHERE I'M GOING TO ASK OR MAYBE SOME ITEMS COME UP IN THE FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE NECESSARILY TIGHTENED ONLY ITEMS, BUT ITEMS THAT AFFECT TITAN AND THE REST OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE NEED TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S THOSE ISSUES ALL OVER THE CITY. I MEAN, LAKESIDE ESTATES WERE PROMISED THINGS OVER TEN YEARS AGO THAT THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON. I MEAN, HUTTO HIGHLANDS AND THEIR DITCH LIVE OAK. I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. SO THAT WOULD BE A VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST LIMIT JUST TO EMORY FARMS AND THEIR ISSUES THAT WERE PROMISED BY THE CITY THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY LONG LIST. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU, BRIAN. THAT WILL GO BACK TO ITEM 11 SEVEN DISCUSSION REGARDING TEXAS STATE [11.7. Discussion regarding Texas State Technical College (TSTC) interlocal agreement and appointment of committee. (Isaac Turner) ] TECHNICAL COLLEGE, STACY INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND THE APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE. SO THE IDEA THAT CITY MANAGER TURNER BROUGHT UP. I BELIEVE THREE OF US IDEA WAS THREE OF US TO GET TOGETHER AS A SUBCOMMITTEE TO AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. TO GO OVER THERE, LOCAL. SO I'LL THROW OUT, I WAS SOMEWHAT INVOLVED ON THE EDC SIDE WITH THAT AGREEMENT. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, TCC IS VERY HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT ONE TURNED OUT. I THINK I COULD OFFER SOME. SOME ASSISTANCE. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO WORK WITH ME. I'M WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TO WORK ON THAT. I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE AGREEMENT THAT HAD WITH THE EDC, WHICH DIDN'T QUITE GET ALL THE WAY THERE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWED ALONG WITH UPDATING THAT TOO, AND I THINK THE COLLEGE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THIS. YEP, DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT RIGHT AND AND STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIME FRAME WOULD BE ON THAT? WELL, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WE'VE GOT TO GET ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE WE HAVEN'T PAID THEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND IT'S CREATING A LITTLE BIT OF A BLACK GUY FOR US. I WOULD THINK IT'D BE FAIRLY QUICKLY AND. DEPENDING ON ANYTHING CHANGING, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. MUCH CHANGING OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE DID WITH THE EDC. [04:50:06] I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T BE TO COME BACK FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN MARCH. WE'RE NOT HERE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE TO IN MY MIND, WE NEED TO BE DOING WHAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO, WHAT WE SAID WE DO YEARS AGO, WHICH IS PAY THIS MONEY AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS LATER ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE THROWN IN OVER THE YEARS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE JUST FROM. FOR MUCH THE SAME REASONS AND JUST KNOWING MELISSA AND. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER ABOUT AND HAVE ASKED ON, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT THROUGH TO FRUITION. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, I WILL SAY TO THE COUNCIL I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH MISS ADAMS AND DO A TOUR OF THE FACILITIES LAST WEEK. SHE'S CERTAINLY READY TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND. THE GROUP THAT'S CHATTING SOME FOLKS FROM THE CITY AND SOME FOLKS FROM HER AREA, I WOULD. IF THE EDC MODEL IS A GREAT MODEL AND THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY, FINE, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY BE CREATIVE, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HAPPENED. MAYBE ONE NOT BEING AS COGNIZANT THAT THE PAYMENT WAS FOR THE BUILDING AND THEN TO THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION THAT HAS GROWN. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU, PROBABLY THEY'VE CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY THE WAY THEY'RE DOING THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE OF COVID, BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE HERE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SUCCESS STORIES THAT THEY'RE DOING TO TRAIN PEOPLE FOR OUR BUSINESSES. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT THE TRAINING THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS CAN GO THROUGH AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN MAKE AND THEIR EMPLOYEES OUT THERE NOW THAT ARE WANTING TO DO THAT AND AFTER TOURING WITH PARADIGM, WITH BOB AND HEARING SOME OF THEIR NEEDS AND STUFF. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME SUCCESS STORIES AND TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THEM, HOW THEY CAN HELP US. AND SO THIS IS NOT A DRUDGERY OR ANYTHING BAD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. YOU'VE GOT A JEWEL OVER THERE AS MAYOR AND A NUMBER OF YOU HAVE INDICATED IT MAY BE AN ISSUE OF THEM NEEDING TO SHARE STORIES AND WHERE THEY'RE HEADED AND AND SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE IN ADDITION TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO. MEND A RELATIONSHIP, BUT ALSO THEN TOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP SO THAT IT MAKES HUDDLE AS A WHOLE LOOK EVEN BETTER BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THAT TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND THE SKILLS THAT THEY'RE GIVING. PEOPLE THAT GO THERE, I KNOW NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CITIZENS OF HUTTO, BUT IT'S HERE IN HUTTO. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HERE, SO IT'S A GOOD DEAL AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG IN MY MIND EITHER. I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN, SHE GOT A GOOD THING HOW BEST TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEET THEIR NEEDS AND. EVERYBODY GOES ALONG THEIR MERRY WAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED ALSO FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. I THINK IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP THAT DOES NEED TO BE MENDED. I KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT. WHAT'S FRACTURED AND WHAT ISN'T DURING KIND OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING? SO I KNOW I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR THAT AND MOVING THAT FORWARD. AND I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE ANY CONNECTION. I NEVER HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY FROM TSMC. SO I FEEL LIKE I COULD BE A VERY UNBIASED PERSON IN THOSE DEALINGS. SO I JUST HOPE YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER THAT. BUT I THOUGHT I WAS HAVING AND IT CAME UP EARLIER THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE TWO PEOPLE BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT THIS KIND OF NEGOTIATION, I THINK, BECAUSE OF SOME OBVIOUS CONNECTIONS. I, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT DON'T I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF IT. BUT I JUST KIND OF THINK. FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TELLING YOU WHO I WANT TO PICK FOR IT NOW, BUT I THINK IT'D BE BEST FOR ANYBODY THAT'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE, NOT BE ON THE COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK HONESTLY OUT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND JUST DECORUM, ET CETERA, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER, KINSEY, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON AND COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD FIT FOR THE CONVERSATION. SO IT'S TOO CORRECT. [04:55:02] THERE'S NO MAGIC ON THAT. I JUST I JUST HAVE ISSUES ABOUT WHEN WE GET MORE THAN A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBER TOGETHER. YES, THAT'S JUST MY IDIOSYNCRASY. SO, OK, MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE. OH, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO THROW THEIR NAMES OUT, I WOULD NOT. AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION OF OF WHAT WHAT WAS THE TIME LENGTH ON THAT? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY HISTORY OF THE WHOLE CREATION OF TYPICAL AND STACY, BUT. AND I'D HAVE TO REALLY DIG DOWN IN MY BRAIN TO TO RECALL ALL OF THAT, BUT I KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I HAD THAT EXPERIENCE OF BEING A PART OF THE OF OF BRINGING IT HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THROW MY NAME OUT THERE ALSO. I LIKE THAT I LIKE HOLLAND COUNCIL MEMBER, KINSEY, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. YEAH, NO. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING THE RECOMMENDATION UP. AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE ANYBODY THAT'S NOT ON THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T GET INPUT, THE INPUT STILL GOING TO BE THERE. YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE. SO THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS AND COUNCIL MEMBER, HOLLAND, KINSEY AND THORNTON. ALL RIGHT. KINSEY. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 11 10 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADD A NOMINATION [11.10. Discussion and possible action to add a nomination process to Council Protocols. (Councilmember Thornton, Mayor Snyder) ] PROCESS TO COUNCIL PROTOCOLS. AND SO THIS IS BORNE OUT OF THE ITEM WE HAD AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING WHERE WE DID EVENTUALLY DECIDE TO GO WITH A NOMINATION PROCESS. BUT THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GO BACK AND ADD THAT INTO THE PROTOCOLS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY SEEMED TO LIKE LAST TIME, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT, YEAH, NO, I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS IT. SO YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, I WOULD SAY. UP TO THE MEETING, I TALKED TO COUNCILMAN I'VE THORNTON, I SAID I WORKED A LOT BETTER. BUT TO SAY THAT WE JUST WILL FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES, THERE'S THREE PATHS. THAT'S JUST CLARIFYING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, WHICH PATH I WAS SAYING, IF WE CAN. I WAS TRYING HIM. WE AGREED TO THE PATH CODIFIED IN OUR COUNCIL PROTOCOLS. AND IN THAT WAY, IT'S UP TO ANOTHER COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE PROCESS. BUT UNTIL THEN, IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN TO COME UP AND EVERYBODY AND GO A DIFFERENT WAY. OH, I AGREE. YEAH, I JUST WAS CLARIFYING THAT THAT'S THE THREE PATHS. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE WERE GOING WITH. THAT WAS THE PROPER NAME, AT LEAST, THAT I RECALLED FROM ROBERT NAME. I BELIEVE IT WAS FROM THE NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR. YEAH. CAN YOU CLARIFY IT FOR ME? IT'S NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR. WE'VE HAD RULES OF ORDER. YES, WE COULD FIND THE I KNOW I'VE GOT IT OR HAS THE EXACT SECTION AND EVERYTHING. WHEN I GO BACK TO CHRISTIAN, WE MAKE THAT GET IT EXACTLY CORRECT. YEAH. AND I WROTE IT UP, WENT THROUGH ROBERTS THE LAST TIME WHEN WHEN I PROPOSED IT AND WORKED WITH CHRISTIAN ON IT. AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN JUST DO THE SAME THING, WORK WITH AND GET IT. ADDED TO THE PROTOCOLS AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT. IT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME, I'M GOING TO GET IT IN. WORKS FOR ME ALREADY IN OUR DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO ITEM 11:11. [11.11. Consideration and possible action on appointing a Mayor Pro Tern in accordance with Section 3.05 of the City Charter. ] CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPOINTING A MAYOR PRO TEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 305 OF THE CITY CHARTER. WE'D LIKE TO DO HERE SINCE WE WANT TO HAVE THIS IN ORDER AND NOT HAVE IT ALL GET CRAZY. WE CAN JUST START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON WORK OURSELVES AROUND, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, WE'LL JUST DO THE PROCESS LIKE WE SAID. WELL, BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DEBBIE HOLLAND TO SERVE AS OUR PRO TEM. UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTION AND THEN WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. I THINK SHE HAS THE ABILITY AND THE EXPERIENCE TO RUN A MEETING. SO THAT'S MY NOMINATION. RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. I DON'T HAVE A NEW NOMINATION TO ADD. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO. I DO NOT HAVE A NOMINATION. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, NO, I DON'T HAVE ONE. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, I MEAN, HIS KNOWLEDGE OF ROBERT RULES HAS PROVEN ITSELF OVER AND OVER AND OVER. I THINK OF ANYONE ON COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD LABEL AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN. I THINK HE WOULD BE THE THE CLOSEST ONE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND. AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE MAIN ROLE AND DUTY OF THE PRO TEM IS TO ACT AS THE PRESIDING [05:00:03] OFFICER IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR. SO FOR ME, I THINK THAT PETER WOULD BE A FANTASTIC CHOICE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. I WAS NOMINATED, I WOULD NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUPPORTING OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I THINK THAT IT IS, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF FROM EXPERIENCE OF WATCHING FROM OUT THERE OR BEHIND MY TV, JUST AN EVEN KEEL STEADY GAIT THAT WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SEEMS TO HAVE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KIND OF PICKED UP, AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME AT THE RETREAT OF JUST WORKING ON OUR DECORUM AND. IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL HERE, BUT. NO, THANK YOU, I JUST. NO, NO. YEAH. I WOULD NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. FOR ME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. HE'S GOT EXPERIENCE ON SEVERAL BOARDS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT EVEN KEEL, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. NOT THAT ANYBODY ELSE DOESN'T HAVE AN INDEPENDENT THOUGHT, BUT SOMETIMES COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. HE SEEMS TO REALLY LOOK AT THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY THAN A LOT OF US TEND TO DO. HE'S NOT THE FIRST ONE TO TALK. SOMETIMES HE DOESN'T TALK AT ALL. BUT THEN ONCE HE SAYS SOMETHING AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A ALMOST LIKE A WIZARD OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE'LL SAY FOUR WORDS AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YOU JUST SUMMED UP 20 MINUTES IN FOUR WORDS FROM A DECISION MAKING STANDPOINT. HE'S BEEN A PRETTY BIG ADVOCATE OF FOLLOWING THE CHARTER AND FOLLOWING OUR RULES. AND SO SHALL I GET HIT BY A BUS OR SOMETHING OR THE NEXT PERSON GET HIT BY A BUS, WHATEVER HAPPENS? I THINK HE COULD FILL IN. OK. I'VE SUCH GREAT ANALOGIES, YOU NEVER KNOW. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GOT THE RULE SHEET. WE'VE GOT ONE PERSON WITH WE GOT THREE PEOPLE NOMINATED OVER THE NOMINATIONS, NOW WE VOTE ON THE NOMINATIONS. OK, SO WE'VE GOT COUNCILMAN, THORNTON, GORDON, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. AND SO YOU WANT TO START BACK AROUND, MAYBE YOU CAN START AN OPPOSITE ORDER THIS TIME, SO ROBIN DOESN'T HAVE TO GO FIRST. I'M ALWAYS IN THE HOT SEAT COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON COUNCIL MEMBER, GORDON I'VE, COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. THERE IS THORNTON COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLARREAL SALVO COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. AND COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. THORNTON. COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON HOLLAND. YOU JUST MADE US REPEAT IT NOW. SO YOU'RE WELCOME. PRETTY MUCH. NO, IT'S GOING TO GO. OK, SO NOW THAT NOW WE'RE DOWN TO COUNCIL MEMBER, GORDON AND THORNTON. AND SO AS ANYBODY'S VOTE CHANGED. WELL, MINE WILL HAVE TO. COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON, BECAUSE IT WILL BE IT'LL BE THORNTON, YOU'RE IT. OK. SO COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. IS THE. NEW MAYOR, PRO TEM. WE NEED IT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO THE WHOLE VOTE, SO THAT WAS DIDN'T CHRISTIANS SAY THAT WE DID THAT LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY VOTE TO CONFIRM IT? IT'S A MOTION BY MAYOR SNYDER APPOINTING COUNCILMAN THORNTON TO MAYOR PRO TEM. SECOND, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. WHO DID IT? HE DID MS. COZMO, GORDON SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. THERE'S A LOT LESS THEATRICS WHEN YOU DO IT THIS WAY. MR. SAYING SWAGIT THANK YOU, PETER, FOR ALL THE RESEARCH AND BRINGING IT BEFORE US. ROBERT'S RULES. I'M THE PARLIAMENTARIAN. [05:05:03] SO YOU'RE SAYING I DON'T WANT THAT GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON I. MAYOR SNYDER I. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO NE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY NEI. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON I. COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON I. MOTION PASSED IS FIVE TO. WITH THAT, WE WILL ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. [12. EXECUTIVE SESSION] WE HAVE ITEM 12 ONE RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS. POTENTIAL CLAIMS. AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL LEGAL REQUESTS. ITEM 12 TO DELIBERATE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN FOUR PERSONNEL MATTERS, ORGANIZATIONAL ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. ITEM 12 THREE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071. ATTORNEY CONSULTATION TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND DELIBERATE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN FOUR RELATING TO THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS. ITEM 12 FOR DELIBERATE TO PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, SALE, VALUE OR LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN TWO RELATING TO REAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS. AND FINALLY, ITEM 12 FIVE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE ATTORNEY CONSULTATION TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING SUBPOENAS ISSUED BY PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC IN PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC. V. NIVINE LLC, AT ALL PENDING IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF DELAWARE AND LONGHORN TITLE CO. V. PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC. THE TIME IS 12 TO 18. IT'S ONE FIFTY SEVEN. AND WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA ITEM 13, ONE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, NO ACTION [13. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION] COUNCIL. A MOTION. I'M 13 TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN FOUR PERSONNEL MATTERS, ORGANIZATIONAL ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY ACTION FOR THAT EITHER. NO, SIR. ACTUALLY, ITEM 13 THREE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE? CAN WE DO? CAN'T WE BE ALLOWED TO? OH YEAH. OK. DOTTIE WAS KIND OF ON THAT ONE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. CONSERVATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO LEGAL IT RELATING TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE ATTORNEY CONSULTATION AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 RELATING TO THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS. NO ACTION, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. 13. FOR CONSIDERATION YOUR COUNCIL. WE DID NOT GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TALK ON 34 THORNTON ITEM 13 FIVE. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO LEGAL RELATING TO LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE ZERO SEVEN ONE. ATTORNEY CONSULTATION REGARDING SUBPOENAS ISSUED BY PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC IN PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC. V. NIVINE LLC AT ALL PENDING IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF DELAWARE AND LONGHORN TITLE CO. V. PRESTON HOLLOW CAPITAL LLC. NATALIE, THERE WAS NO ACTION THERE, EITHER NO ACTION, NO ACTION, NO OBJECTIONS. WE'LL ADJOURN AT 1:59 A.M. ON FEBRUARY 11TH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.