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SO WE'LL CALL

[Diversity and Inclusion Meeting]

THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 35.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S HERE.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PRIETTO HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER WALKER, COUNCILMAN PEER SPOONS, COUNCIL MEMBER CHIN HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, NO, SIR.

WE DIDN'T KNOW.

AND I'M SORRY FOR THE RECORD.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE WERE CALLING ROLL CALL.

IT WAS, IT WAS, THEY WERE REFERRED TO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD.

MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT EDIT PROMOTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

OH, SORRY.

HE'S STILL IMPAIRED GRADUATIONS ALL.

UM, NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF CHAIRMAN.

I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT.

UM, THE NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH.

UM, AS YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE SPRING BREAK WEEK.

SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO, UM, I CAN SEND, UM, ALTERNATE DATES KIND OF LIKE WE DID THIS PAST MEETING, UM, BASED ON YOUR AVAILABILITY, WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT MEETING DATE WILL BE.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL WATCH FOR THAT EMAIL TO COME THROUGH ON POTENTIAL TIMES AND DATES.

CORRECT.

WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO POST NOTICE 72 HOURS PRIOR TO HAVING THE MEETING.

SO, UM, I WILL REACH OUT TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND BASED ON YOUR AVAILABILITY, IF YOU PREFER THAT WE, UM, ATTEMPT TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH OR, UM, OR EVEN THE SECOND OR EVEN THE SECOND, THE SECOND IS THE EIGHT.

I CAN'T DO THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH.

SORRY.

YOU CANNOT DO THE SEVENTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH.

OKAY.

SO I WILL, UM, I'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

AND THEN I'LL, LIKE I SAID, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY ALSO, JUST AS A REMINDER, PLEASE DO NOT DO A REPLY TO ALL.

UM, CAUSE THAT'S A VIOLATION OF OUR OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

SO IF YOU RESPOND, UM, I'VE BEEN KIND OF IN THE HABIT OF JUST SENDING THE GROUP THE MESSAGE.

UM, BUT WHEN YOU RESPOND, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU REPLY ONLY TO ME AND THAT'S ALL DID I DO THAT? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO ONE IN PARTICULAR IT'S JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND IT'S JUST, JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER SO WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AS OPPOSED TO REACTIVE.

GREAT.

I'M ACTUALLY REPLIED TO THAT'S ALL.

I WAS LIKE, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE.

YOU'RE FINE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPS? I'M SORRY.

I TRY TO HAVE A HELMET.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW ON THE COMMISSION, UM, THAT WE DID JUST COMPLETE HIPPO DAY WORLD HIPPO DAY IN CITY HALL LOBBY FROM FOUR TO 6:00 PM.

UM, AS PREVIOUSLY WAS, UM, THAT WE LET YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

WE HAD ABOUT 300 COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME THROUGH.

WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LIBRARY, UM, AND IT WAS AN OVERALL FANTASTIC COMMUNITY WIDE EVENT.

SO JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT IT DID TAKE PLACE AND IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.

I DID NOTICE SO MANY PEOPLE DOWNTOWN TAKING SELFIES WITH ALL THE HIPPOS AND POSTING THEM.

IT WAS SO COOL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES.

ANY COMMENTS? I LEFT MY CLASS NOTES AT WORK FROM THE THING FROM DIVERSITY.

OH, OKAY.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT I WROTE DOWN.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 6.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020 TO DNI COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.

DID WE HAVE THOSE, UM, COMMISSIONER OR GRACIE? DID WE HAVE THOSE? UM, AND THEY WERE SUPPLIED TO YOU IN THE PACKET AND THAT YOUR REVIEW.

OKAY.

SO DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS ONE? OKAY.

YES, SIR.

SO I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2021 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UM, COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.

I SECOND THE MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM,

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PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER WALKER.

AYE.

CHAIRMAN THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER CHIN.

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING.

SO I FEEL STUPID SORT OF VOTING ON SOMETHING I WASN'T EVEN AT, BUT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, I COMMISSIONER SPOONS, I AND COMMISSIONER GHETTO MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO, WAIT 5 0 5 OR 5, 5 0 5 1.

WOULD THAT WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO EIGHT OTHER BUSINESS, UM, ITEM 8.1 CON DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUB COMMITTEE GOALS AND PROGRESS.

AND SO FOR THIS, FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH OUR DIFFERENT, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES AND I GUESS GIVE AN UPDATE ON ANY PROGRESS OR ANY ITEMS TO BRING UP BEFORE OUR COMMISSION.

UM, WE CAN JUST RUN THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK.

SO THAT'S THE TRAINING, THE ASSESSMENT AND THE, UM, CALENDAR AND EVENTS OF COMMITTEES AND WAS ANYTHING DONE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I SENT YOU FOR THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH? LIKE THE, THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO POST NOTHING WAS, NOTHING WAS DONE WITH IT.

UM, I KNOW YOU SENT IT TO ME VIA FACEBOOK, CORRECT.

UM, LIKE YOU TAGGED ME ON THAT.

YEAH.

YOU TALKING TO ME ON THAT MESSENGER, I SENT IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO NOTHING WAS DONE WITH IT BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE AS A COMMISSION HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE OR ANY SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLET.

AND SO IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR ANOTHER MEETING, THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD HANDLE THAT, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT IN A SUBCOMMITTEE.

LIKE IF WE JUST WANT TO OWN THAT AS COMMISSIONERS, BUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

YEAH.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY A DISCUSSION TO HAVE IS IF WE WANT TO POST THINGS OR SO JUST SAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR JUNETEENTH.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER AVENUE TO PUT MORE INFORMATION OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO GATHER MORE INFORMATION LEADING UP TO JUNE TEETH.

WE DO SOMETHING, UH, HIGHLIGHTS, BUT WHERE WOULD THAT GO? LIKE ON A WEBSITE? UM, I'M THINKING WEBSITE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PUDDING.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING.

LOOKING BACK AT OUR NOTES.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SETTING UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD KIND OF FALL UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.

UM, CAUSE I WAS KINDA THINKING ABOUT THAT ALSO INFORMATION LIKE THAT.

THAT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO POST THERE.

YEAH.

AND ALSO, UM, UM, I'VE REACHED OUT AGAIN TO THE SCOUTS ABOUT TRYING TO MEET WITH THEM TO GET THE, BECAUSE NOW WHERE I WANT TO DO IS LIKE, I WANT TO GET IT DONE BY JUNETEENTH.

RIGHT.

I WOULD LOVE THAT PROJECT DONE BY JUNE 10TH SO THAT WE COULD HAVE INFORMATION AT WHATEVER FESTIVAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND YOU KNOW, OR THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, OR THE BLACK, UM, HOW DOES THE FAMILY PUTTING IT BACK ON AGAIN? RIGHT.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE, AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT ALSO.

I KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE ALL KIND OF BEEN DEALING WITH SOME HEALTH ELEMENTS AND STUFF, BUT WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU'RE NOT SET WITH THE BOY SCOUTS OR THE GIRL SCOUTS OR POSSIBLY, UM, MAYBE ALLOWING, UM, SOMEONE ELSE TO DO, YOU KNOW, NOT SO MUCH THE PROJECT THAN HAVING SOMEONE ELSE BUILD IT, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A PLAN, UM, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS DISCUSSING IT.

CAUSE I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, I LIKE PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME, I KNOW PEOPLE THAT KNOW PEOPLE AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO, BUT ALSO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO, HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT TIME IS CRUCIAL AND I KNOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR BABY, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO GET IT DONE.

AND IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

IT'S LIKE A MATERNITY THAT JUST KEEPS GOING.

THEY WON'T STOP.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

LET ME REACH OUT TO HIM ONE MORE TIME AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE ISN'T A, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT, THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO OR TOO EXCITED ABOUT.

RIGHT.

UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW,

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JUST FITTING, I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM ONE MORE TIME, UH, THIS WEEK AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE AN ADOPTION FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO TAKE UP THE PROJECT IN CASE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OR, OR OVERLOADED OR WHATEVER.

I'LL DEFINITELY WORD IT.

YEAH.

YOU'RE VERY POSITIVE.

RIGHT.

OR EVEN CAN WORK WITH THEM IF THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP WITH THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY NEED FUNDS CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE TIME.

YEAH.

SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, WAS THERE ANY MOVEMENT MADE ON A CALENDAR OF SOME SORT? WELL, OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, UM, WE ALL KIND OF, WE'RE DEALING WITH SOME THINGS, BUT I THINK I SAW A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK OUTSIDE OF THIS SETTING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND KIND OF, WE, WE HAVE SOME DATES AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT.

I DON'T HAVE A LIST AND ONCE WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN ALL BE TOGETHER.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND WE'VE OFFERED, YOU KNOW, ZOOM OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THIS IRONED OUT BECAUSE I'M AS I'M AS CRUCIAL.

YEAH.

UM, I, I'VE JUST BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE.

MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT WE, WHENEVER YOU GUYS START, YOU GUYS JUST START WITH THE MAY, JUNE, JULY THREE MONTHS STAND INSTEAD OF STARTING WITH ANYTHING HAPPENING IN MARCH OR APRIL, MARCH, APRIL.

YEAH.

BECAUSE NOT THAT WE MISSED THE BOAT OR ANYTHING, BUT IT GIVES YOU GUYS TWO MONTHS OF RUNWAY TO PLAN, YOU KNOW, TO PLAN OUT ON THOSE MONTHS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS DEEM WE DO ON THOSE MONTHS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT PLAN.

AND THEN YOU COULD BRING THAT, HEY, IN, IN MAY WE WANT TO DO THIS.

CAN WE VOTE ON THAT? THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO CARRY IT OUT JUNE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO.

THIS IS HOW WE'LL CARRY IT OUT.

JULY MEN, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP MOVING ON AND HOPEFULLY WE GET INTO A CADENCE OF THREE MONTHS.

WE JUST LOOK AT THAT THREE MONTH SPAN INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE FOUR MONTHS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN THINK WE CAN COMPREHEND ENTIRE YEAR.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN NOVEMBER? IT'S LIKE, NO IDEA.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, I HOPE THAT ONCE WE GET THE FLOW GOING, UM, ESPECIALLY LIKE IF WE DO DEVELOP THE WEBSITE THAT KIND OF HELP HELP WITH SOME OF LIKE SAY, IF WE WANT TO POST SOMETHING FOR IT, LIKE WE CAN ALWAYS WRITE THE CALENDAR.

RIGHT.

WE CAN'T ALWAYS HAVE AN EVENT BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT EASY, BUT WE CAN'T ALWAYS POST CAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO EXACTLY.

UM, SO THAT'LL KIND OF HELP WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY HOPE THE WEBSITE WILL.

AND I MEAN, I THINK ONCE WE START DOING AN EVENT THAT MAY START TO CATCH FIRE AND PARKS AND REC MAY WANT TO DO AN EVENT IN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PARKS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EDC MAY WANT TO THROW SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SELENA FESTIVAL IN MAY OR AROUND HER BIRTHDAY OR THIS, OR IN SEPTEMBER.

I MEAN, WE GOT OPTIONS FOR LONDON.

YEAH.

JUST PLAN, JUST PLAN IT AND JUST PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR.

AND LET'S, IT'S LIKE THE BUS IN SAN ANTONIO IS AMAZING AND I WOULD LOVE A SMALL VERSION OF THAT.

AND LET'S DEFINITELY WHENEVER YOU GUYS DEVELOP THAT CALENDAR, IF YOU GUYS COULD HAVE A PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO THIS EVENT, THIS IS ROUGHLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT GIVE US AN OPTION TO NOT ONLY SEE YOUR VISION FOR WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING, BUT ALSO HELP US TO, YOU KNOW, JOG ARM ARM ARE.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF WE COULD PROVIDE ANY INSIGHT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT AS WELL, GET SOME SWAG TOGETHER TOO, BY THAT TIME.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM THE CALENDAR AND EVENT SUBCOMMITTEE? OKAY.

SO JUST ACTION ITEMS ON THAT.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALES, YOU, YOU WILL, UM, REACH OUT TO THE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS.

ONE MORE TIME JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UM, MOMENTUM THERE.

AND IF NOT, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AND START WORKING INTERNALLY WITH SOME, WITH SOME, UH, WITH SOME RESOURCES INTERNALLY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE, UM, BY JUNE AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY HAVE A THREE MONTH CALENDAR STARTING WITH MAY, JUNE, JULY TO FOUR, UM, EVENTS THAT WE CAN DO IN THE CITY.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO THE ASSESSMENT TRAIN OR THE ASSESSMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, CHIN, OR P IT THOUGH, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE EITHER ONE, IT, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE WAS THE SURVEY.

WHAT, WHAT OUR COMMITTEE, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE WORKED ON WAS WE HAD INITIAL QUESTIONS AND THEN WE SORT OF LIKE TRIMMED IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM ALL THAT

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WE WANT.

SO IN YOUR PACKET, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE, I THINK THERE WAS THE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AS THESE ARE THE ONES WE'D LIKE TO ASK AT LEAST TO PRESENT TO THE SURVEY COMPANY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO TRIM THEM FURTHER DEPENDENT ON HOW MANY CAN WE CAN END UP PUTTING IN, BUT LIKE WE TOOK THE ORIGINAL SURVEY AND TRIMMED IT.

AND THIS IS THE TRIMMED VERSION THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

YES.

AND WE DO HAVE THAT LISTED AS ITEM 8.3 TO KIND OF GO INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO WE, SO WE'LL GO INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN 8.3.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD WITH THE ASSESSMENT FROM YOU, COUNCILMAN BURRITO? UM, THE GOAL IS TO GET SOMETHING UP TO LIKE 10 TO 15 QUESTIONS WHERE WE'RE ABLE, LIKE EVERYONE CAN, UM, I GUESS BREAK IT DOWN TO LIKE, IF IT'S THREE QUESTIONS WE WANT, WE BREAK IT DOWN TO ONE WEEK THAT CAN ASSORT THOSE THREE QUESTIONS.

WE CAN GET THE ANSWERS FROM.

SO, AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE MULTI-QUESTION PART IS WHERE I'M KIND OF CONFUSED MYSELF.

LIKE IF WE SHOULD DO MULTI QUESTIONS OR JUST LIKE A YES OR NO.

AND ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO GO ABOUT IT OR ON SOME YES OR NO ONE OR JUST ABC OR I DON'T KNOW.

DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS NOW? OR WE WANT TO WAIT TO A POINT, RIGHT.

IT WAS JUST MORE OF LIKE, WANTING TO KNOW, LIKE IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE MORE OF YES OR NO QUESTIONS OR IT'D BE LIKE, OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S SOLD OUT FOR 8.3, THAT WAY WE COULD DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

OKAY.

SO SINCE WE HAVE THAT FOR 8.3, WE'LL MOVE TO THE TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, FOR THIS SUB COMMITTEE, WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS THIS TIME AROUND FOR THE TRAINING.

UM, JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KENZIE TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON, UM, POTENTIALLY WHEN THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO KIND OF LOOK FOR A TRAINING THAT WE CAN TAKE.

UM, I THINK ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE WILL KIND OF COME TOGETHER AS A COMMISSION.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, UM, KEY POINTS OR KEY, YEAH, KEY POINTS OF EMPHASIS THAT WE'D LIKE TO RECEIVE FROM TRAINING.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP US TO DEVELOP A ROADMAP ON WHAT SORT OF TRAINING WE WANT, UM, TO PAY FOR.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY ON, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE TRAINING.

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY JUST GET THOSE FUNDS? AND THEN FROM THERE, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH OUR COMMISSION ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS DO WE WANT, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT TO COME FROM THAT TRAINING? ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 8.1, HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO 8.2 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER CHINS OR COMMISSION MEMBER.

I KEEP SAYING COUNCIL MEMBER COMMISSION MEMBER CHIN'S ITEM.

YES.

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, I PUT TOGETHER A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW, MAKE ANY EDITS.

WE CAN CHANGE IT.

WE DO HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, LIKE ASAP BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THURSDAY, SWEETIE.

SO WERE WE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO YOU AND SAY THUMBS UP? IT'S GOOD.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.

OKAY.

AND IF WE CAN, UM, TONIGHT, IF THERE'S, UM, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH VOTING ON IT AND THAT WAY WE CAN OFFICIALLY, UM, TURN THAT OVER AND ADD IT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA FOR THE 17TH, WHICH IS THIS THURSDAY.

YEAH.

LIKE THE, THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION I THINK IS ALREADY ON THEIR AGENDA.

SO TO HAVE THE 72 HOURS.

CORRECT.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO DID EVERYONE RECEIVE AND VIEW THE PROCLAMATION? UM, SO DID ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR ANY, UM, ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS REGARDING THE PROCLAMATION? I DID NOT.

I DIDN'T, IT WAS VERY WELL WORDED.

I JUST TOLD FROM OTHER PEOPLE, I JUST LIKE FOUND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER CITIES AND MERGED THEM.

, DON'T RE DON'T RECREATE THE WHEEL, DON'T RECREATE THE WHEEL AND YOU'VE LICENSED LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I DID CHANGE WORDING, SO WE DIDN'T PLAY.

RIGHT.

AND I DID, I DID LIKE THE, THE BRIEF HISTORY AS WELL AS THE KIND OF, UH, GETTING INTO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO COMMEMORATE THE HOLIDAY OR THE MONTH.

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AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL-WORDED AS WELL AND NOT TOO LENGTHY, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST ENCOMPASS THE PAST, THE PRESENT AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WANT TO BE AS A CITY.

SO GREAT JOB COMMISSIONING.

GREAT JOB.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION GRACIE FOR YOU.

DO YOU GIVE IT TO CITY COUNCIL THEN? I DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

I'M GOING TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR YES.

OKAY.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, UM, AGAIN, OUR HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL ALL VOTE ON IT TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN, UM, SUBMIT TO THE, UM, COUNCIL AND OFFICIALLY ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.

GREAT.

GREAT.

WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION FOR HISTORY MONTH WRITTEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER, CHIN COMMISSION, MEMBER CHIN, UM, COMMISSIONED MEMBER BY COMMISSION MEMBER CHEN.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM WHEN WE WERE JUST IN THE CHAIRS.

SHE GET UP HERE NOW.

RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND THEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UM, SPOONS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONERS FOODS.

AYE.

CHAIRMAN THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER WALKER, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER CHIN HIGH COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, COMMISSIONER CHIN FOR, FOR WRITING THAT, UM, AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY.

SO ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT CAN MAKE IT JUST FOR, UM, FOR THAT, THAT'D BE NICE.

UM, THEY USUALLY DO THE PROCLAMATIONS AND OTHER BUSINESS AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY TILL TWO O'CLOCK.

WE DON'T HAVE TO STAY TIL TWO OR THREE UNLESS YOU WANT TO HANG OUT WITH US.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS .

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 8.3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION CITY OF HUDDLE ASSESSMENT.

UM, SO THIS ITEM GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN ITEM 8.1 REGARDING THE SUBCOMMITTEE GOALS AND PROGRESS.

UM, SO JUST, UM, WE CAN DIVE BACK INTO THAT CONVERSATION, UM, REGARDING THE ASSESSMENT.

SO I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER PRIETTO, IF YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE ASSESSMENT, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT.

WELL, WHEN WE CUT DOWN THE QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE IF WE WANT MULTIPLE QUESTIONS OR A YES OR NO COMMISSIONER, CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT THAT I THINK WOULD BE RELEVANT BEFORE YOU GUYS GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION? UM, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE.

WE DO HAVE A CITYWIDE SURVEY, LIKE WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE.

UM, AND WE ARE ABOUT TO SEND OUT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, WE'RE SENDING OUT AN RFQ, UM, TWO VENDORS FOR THE CITY-WIDE ASSESSMENT, NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO DNI, BUT WE DID, WE ARE REQUESTING IN THAT RFQ, THAT PART OF THE PROCESS BE QUESTIONS FROM THE DENAI COMMISSION INCORPORATED INTO.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE VENDORS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT, BUT DEFINITELY, UM, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EITHER HAVE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT AS PART OF THAT AS PART OF THAT OVERALL SURVEY.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE LIKE KIND OF SOME TIMELINES FOR THAT.

UM, AS, AS WE SIT RIGHT NOW AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THINGS COULD CHANGE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THIS, I LITERALLY JUST GOT THIS LIKE AN HOUR AGO.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE MOST UP-TO-DATE THING THAT I COULD.

SO, UM, BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, WE ARE SITTING HERE IN RFQ, WHICH I APOLOGIZE IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ACRONYMS. I KNOW, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, SO THOSE SHOULD BE PUBLISHED BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

UM, AS PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS, WE EXPECT TO KNOW BY MID MARCH, WHICH QUALIFIED COMPANIES ARE EVEN INTERESTED.

UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL GIVE THEM A MORE DETAILED RFP, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR BIDS.

UM, SO IT, AGAIN, IT'LL KIND OF BE UP TO THE COMPANY ON HOW QUICKLY THEY ANSWER THE RFP AND THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

WE CAN KIND OF NUDGE JUST AS WE WILL, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO FOUR WEEKS, UM, TO GET RESPONSES.

SO THEN THAT WOULD PUT US AROUND MID APRIL TIMEFRAME OR SO, UM, OF WHEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SELECT A VENDOR AT THAT POINT.

UM, LET'S SEE, 2, 2, 2, 2.

SO AS FAR AS SURVEY DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE CHOSEN VENDOR WILL ULTIMATELY WRITE THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PROFESSIONALS AND THAT'S KIND OF THEIR WORLD AND WHAT THEY DO.

UM, AND THEY KIND OF COMPOSE LIKE NON-LEADING QUESTIONS THAT PRODUCE THAT ACTIONABLE DATA.

UM,

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AND SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL START THE PROCESS OF PRELIMINARY DETERMINING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WANT TO GAUGE ABOUT.

UM, AND WE ARE HIGHLY RECOMMENDING THAT THE DENAI COMMISSION BEGINS DECIDING WHAT INFORMATION Y'ALL WANT.

UM, Y'ALL WANT TO KNOW.

SO TO BE ABLE TO NARROW DOWN THE SCOPE OF WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW AND HAVE A CLEAR, UM, MESSAGE.

UM, SO THAT ONCE THE VENDOR IS SELECTED, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY START THE PROCESS AND NOT HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WAIT ON ANY ONE PART, NOT NECESSARILY YOU GUYS, EITHER JUST OVERALL WE'RE GATHERING ALL THIS INFORMATION.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT WOULD PUT US AROUND MID APRIL WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO GO AHEAD AND SELECT A VENDOR.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND POSSIBLY AT, FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN MARCH HAVING A DISCUSSION, UM, OR NARROWING DOWN WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, RIGHT? SO WE'VE NARROWED THEM.

WE'VE NARROWED DOWN A ORIGINAL ONE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING, OR EVEN FURTHER, WELL, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I'M NOT SAYING ALL I'M SAYING.

I'M JUST, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A TIMELINE OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE VENDOR SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE CITYWIDE SURVEY.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE WE WERE, THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY SAID LAST LAST MONTH IS WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS KINDA IDENTIFIED.

AND I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF PROVIDING THE ROADMAP FOR WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM THE SURVEY VENDOR MAY CHANGE THE WORD.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING TO BE CLEAR.

SO AS FAR AS HER CLAIRE CLARIFICATION FOR HER, IT DOESN'T MATTER REALLY HOW YOU GUYS FORMAT IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO FORMAT IT THE WAY THEY WANT TO DO IT.

ANYWAYS, I WOULD ARGUE, AND I WILL SUBMIT THAT THE SURVEY COMPANY, YOU HIRE KNOWS LESS ABOUT DOING SURVEYS THAN YOU THINK, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE I DO SURVEYS FOR A LIVING.

SO I WOULD JUST BE CAUTIOUS THAT IF WE HAVE A PARTICULAR WAY, WE STILL CAN SORT OF ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IT.

LIKE HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING THEM? SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY IS LEADING THIS.

SO FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO HER WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THAT.

I MEAN, LIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, LIKE WHAT BUDGET WE HAVE SO THEIR GAMES, HEY, TO, TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE, OH, HOW CAN I SAY IT? UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS CITY-WIDE, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO THE, THIS COMMISSION IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND IT'S KIND OF STAFF LEVEL AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.

SO, UM, CITY COUNCIL IS ON AS CRYSTAL, UM, KENZIE COUNCIL MEMBER, KENZIE.

UM, AND SO IT'S KIND OF THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS I WOULD FUNNEL HER WAY, OR WE CAN FUNNEL YOUR, HER WAY.

I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE BUDGET IS BECAUSE THE BUDGET GOES, FOR EXAMPLE, I DEAL WITH SURVEYS ALL THE TIME.

YOU CAN HIRE SOMEBODY FOR $5,000.

YOU CAN HIRE SOMEBODY FOR $80,000.

THE SKILL LEVEL IS VERY DIFFERENT BASED ON THOSE.

AND MY GUESS IS IF, DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAS TO GO OUT TO BID, BECAUSE I'M GUESSING THERE'S A 50,000, SO WE'RE DOING AN RFQ FIRST.

AND THEN ONCE YOU REALIZE YOU'RE GOING PRETTY HIGH END WITH THIS, UM, I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP, LIKE THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.

FANTASTIC.

I MEAN, I'M A, YOU KNOW, A RESEARCHER AND THIS IS WHAT I DO.

SO I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THEM OUR BEST BET IF THEY CHANGE IT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

RIGHT.

BUT I WOULDN'T JUST SAY THESE ARE TOPICS BECAUSE I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I DEAL WITH THESE SURVEY NUMBERS ALL THE TIME.

IF YOU, IF I KNOW THE NAMES, LIKE I KNOW WHO'S GOOD AND WHO'S NOT, TO BE HONEST, NOT THAT EVERYONE HAS TO LISTEN TO ME.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, THIS IS I I'VE DONE SURVEYS WITH YOUGOV, I'VE DONE SURVEYS WITH IPSOS DYNAMIC.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG COMPANIES AND THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABILITY ON HOW GOOD THEY ARE.

SO, AND SO I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

SO TO ME, IF WE GIVE THEM QUESTIONS, WE WANT THEM OUR BEST, JUST WRITE PROFESSIONALLY, I GUESS.

EXACTLY.

EVEN KNOWING THEY MAY CHANGE THEM.

LIKE, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO AFTER IT LEAVES OUR HANDS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK, I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE THEY'RE WRITTEN, THEY'RE WRITTEN TO GO.

I MEAN, I, I WOULDN'T CHANGE THEM.

THAT'S JUST ME THOUGH.

I THINK IT MAY BE ALSO THAT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR ALL OF THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY DON'T, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS TO JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HOW COMFORTABLE PEOPLE FEEL IN HUDDLE.

LIKE I THINK IF WE GIVE THEM ACTUAL QUESTIONS, IT GETS, IT'LL GIVE THEM A BETTER IDEA OF HOW, WHAT WE REALLY WANT.

YEAH.

AND I, I ISN'T THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE GIVING THEM, WE'RE GIVING THEM THE QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK THE QUESTIONS WILL ALSO HELP US TO, LIKE, IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY, WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO GAIN FROM THIS SURVEY? WELL, LOOK AT OUR QUESTIONS.

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OUR QUESTIONS ARE VERY SPECIFIC AS TO HOW DOES A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE, UM, WAY THEY'RE WELCOMED ABOUT THE WAY THEY ARE.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY ARE TREATED IN THE CITY.

I THINK OUR QUESTIONS ARE GIVING THE ROADMAPS.

SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER 10, WE GIVE THEM THESE QUESTIONS AND THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, BEST AND GREATEST FINAL.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, RECEIVING INFORMATION BACK, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO IF YOU CHANGE IT, PLEASE KEEP IT IN THESE PARAMETERS.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LIMITATIONS ON SPACE AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SO I WOULD REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, IF YOU FEEL SO INCLINED, I'D REACH OUT TO HER, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION.

AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY IS VERY OPEN TO ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMISSION.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, GET ANY CONTACT INFORMATION TO SPEND.

I MEAN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING OUT TO BID, I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN $50,000.

RIGHT.

CAUSE THAT'S, I'M GUESSING YOUR BID THRESHOLD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT'S LIKE AT THE UNIVERSITY, IF WE, IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY FOR MORE THAN 50,000, WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID.

IF IT'S LESS THAN THAT, WE CAN JUST HIRE WHO WE WANT.

SO I'M GUESSING IT'S THE SAME WITH THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF YOU'RE SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY, YOU REALLY WANT THEM TO BE GOOD.

CAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

I'D REACH OUT TO HER AND DEFINITELY OFFER UP THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH US ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK.

UM, I THINK IT COULD BE TO GET WELL INTO EVEN GET THE TIMELINES HERE.

THIS IS REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR GIVING US THIS, UH, THIS ROUGH TIMELINE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 8.3? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE TO 8.4 TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE LED DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DIVERSITY FOR DUMMIES TRAINING COURSE.

UM, SO THIS WAS MY ITEM AND JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH AND, UM, HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING OUR TRAINING THAT WE HAD THIS PAST MONTH WITH, UM, DIVERSITY FOR DUMMIES.

I CAN GO.

OKAY.

UM, SO ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT WAS NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS CHECKING UP ON OURSELVES AND WORKING THROUGH OUR BLIND SPOTS.

UM, I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE HAVING AN ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER AT TIMES.

CAUSE THERE'S SOMETIMES WHERE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A THING.

AND SO I LOVE THAT REMINDER THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT BLIND SPOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S NO WAY.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GONNA LOOK FORWARD TO, TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER.

SO THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED FROM THE, THAT GREAT, GREAT HAVING AN ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER.

UM, IS THAT, IS, DID YOU, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU FELT OTHER, UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT, WHAT YOU CAN INCORPORATE INTO YOUR PROFESSIONAL OR PERSONAL LIFE.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW BEFORE? SO I GUESS YOU ANSWERED ALL THREE OF THOSE AT ONE POINT.

GREAT.

YOU KNOW, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, ARE WE, AND I PROBABLY MISSED THIS BECAUSE LAST WEEK WAS MY FIRST MEETING, BUT ARE WE LOOKING AT THESE SO THAT WE CAN DECIDE WHICH ONE TO USE FOR SOMETHING OR JUST FOR OUR OWN EDIFICATION? YEAH.

SO THIS WAS FROM THE TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE CREATED THIS TRAINING COURSE FOR OURSELVES THAT WE'RE ALL FREE TRAININGS, JUST TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER INSIGHTS BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY CAME TO US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TRAINING THAT'S PAID FOR.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS EDUCATE OURSELVES.

EXACTLY.

YEP.

OKAY.

NO, THAT, THAT IS SUPER HELPFUL.

UM, I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY GOOD AT FRAMING WHY THE TRAINING IS IMPORTANT.

I THOUGHT HE DID A GOOD JOB OF SORT OF SAYING IT'S NOT JUST IMPORTANT IN SORT OF A NORMATIVE SENSE, LIKE IN A SENSE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT CAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

RIGHT.

IT'S HE, HE KIND OF WENT BEYOND THAT.

LIKE IT IS GOOD FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A BUSINESS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'LL ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE AND IT'LL BE MORE WELCOMING.

SO I

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THOUGHT THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS OF IT WERE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, AND I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY BROAD, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT ENCOMPASSED A LOT OF DIVERSITY MEANT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

RIGHT.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WHEN I WAS JOINING THE COMMISSION THAT YOU ASKED IN THE INTERVIEW, YOU KNOW, LIKE THINKING ABOUT DIVERSITY, THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING OR THE OTHER.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.

IT'S GOOD FOR ME TO THINK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME PUSHBACK TO DIVERSITY EFFORTS AND THAT CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TO PEOPLE TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT PART OF THIS GROUP, BUT YOU'RE PART OF ANOTHER GROUP, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, AND THIS IS JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT, IT WAS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC TO ME THAT A WHITE MAN WAS DOING ALL THE DIVERSITY TRAINING.

AND I SAY THAT AS A WHITE WOMAN, LIKE I W I WAS A LITTLE, LIKE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE, IT'S INTERESTING.

I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMEBODY THAT'S DONE, OBVIOUSLY SOME WORK ON HIS OWN HE'S YEAH, HE'S FROM SOUTH ARABIA, BUT HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT HE HIMSELF IS THE, IS THE ONE THAT IS MARGINALIZED AND YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER.

AND HE SAYS THAT UPFRONT AT THE BEGINNING AND, AND, AND ALMOST EXPLAINS WHY HE'S THE ONE, THAT'S WHY HE'S DOING THIS TEACHING THIS CLASS, BECAUSE HE'S TEACHING IT THROUGH TEXAS A AND M I BELIEVE, AND THOSE ARE ALL REALLY VALID POINTS.

IT WAS JUST TO ME FROM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT INHERENT PRIVILEGE, EVEN IF HE'S EXPERIENCED MARGINALIZATION, IT'S NOT THE SAME MARGINALIZATION AS A WOMAN, BUT NOBODY SAYS, I MEAN, EVEN A HISPANIC WOMAN AND A WHITE WOMAN OR A BLACK WOMAN AND A HISPANIC WOMAN OR AN ASIAN WOMAN, THERE'S, THEY'RE ALL, THERE'S ALL THESE SOFT SOFTEN AND DIFFERENCES THAT I WILL BE MARGINALIZED DIFFERENTLY THAN, THAN YOU'LL BE MARGINALIZED.

AND THAT YOU'LL BE MARGINALIZED.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF AN UNDERSTANDING, I THINK, AND THIS IS WHERE THIS IS A VERY GOOD DIALOGUE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST US.

AND THAT'S WHEN HE WAS SAYING, WHEN IT WAS LIKE THE MYTHBUSTERS PART, WHEN HE SAID IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN AND RACE, IT'S ALL THESE THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF US BAR BROADENING OUR MIND IN THIS INSANE.

YEAH.

I GIVE HIM A COMPLETE, I ACCEPT WHAT HE'S TEACHING BECAUSE HE IS ALSO INSIDE THE DIVERSITY IN DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND WE, I THINK PART OF US SAYING THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN REALLY SHOULD BE TEACHING THIS ARE GOING TO BE MINORITIES AND WOMEN AND BLACKS, AND THAT'S WHO I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO BECAUSE THEY, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU, ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT SHE'S IN THAT? CAUSE WHAT, WHAT SHE'S LIKE, SHE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT A WHITE MAN WAS TEACHING THIS COURSE.

I THINK THAT THERE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT WE ALL ARE IN DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE MARGINALIZED, BUT THE MARGINALIZATION OF A WHITE WOMAN IS NOT THE SAME AS THE MARGINALIZATION OF A BLACK WOMAN.

THERE, I HAVE MORE PRIVILEGE AND POWER IN SOCIETY THAN A BLACK WOMAN EVER WILL.

AND SO THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE WITH IT IS THAT HE CERTAINLY COULD BE PART OF GROUPS THAT ARE MARGINALIZED, BUT AS A WHITE MAN OR AT LEAST PASSING AS A WHITE MAN, HE STILL HAS MORE SYSTEMIC POWER THAN ANYONE IN THE MARGINALIZED GROUP.

THAT'S THE ONLY POINT.

SO I HAVE AN INTERESTING STORY ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I'M, UH, I'M A SALON OWNER.

I DO HAIR, RIGHT? ADD THIS LADY COME INTO OUR SALON WHEN I WAS WORKING IN THE ARBORETUM AND SHE WAS GETTING HIGHLIGHTS AND SHE SAW ME AND SHE SAID, OH, YOU'RE DOING MY HAIR.

I SAID, YES, MA'AM I BELIEVE WE'RE DOING HIGHLIGHTS.

YES.

SHE SAYS, WELL, I HAVE FOUND OUT I, IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT, UM, BLONDE HAIRDRESSERS DO THE BEST BLONDE HIGHLIGHTING.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

I SAID, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, SO YOU SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THERE WERE ALL MY COLLEAGUES, I SAID HER HAIR, SHE DOES GREAT BLONDE HAIR.

SHE'S PLATINUM IS GORGEOUS ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

IT WAS LIKE, AND THAT ONE AND THAT ONE, I SAID, WOULDN'T YOU RATHER GO TO THE STYLIST THAT MAKES THAT BLONDE HAIRSTYLIST BLONDE INSTEAD BECAUSE MY HAIR WAS JET BLACK, BUT SHE COULDN'T SEE PAST THE FACT THAT I HAVE A LICENSE AND I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE IN HER MIND SHE HAD THIS PREJUDICE OR PREJUDGMENT THAT TO DO BLONDE HAIR WHEN NEEDED TO BE BLONDE.

SO THIS, AND I'M PUTTING THIS INTO THE CONTEXT OF THIS GENTLEMAN JUST BECAUSE HE'S NOT A BLACK FEMALE SHOULD NOT BE, HE SHOULD NOT BE DISCOUNTED FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT YOU'RE

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JUST COUNTING THEM, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT IN THIS CLASS BECAUSE IT'S A WHITE MAN TEACHING THIS CLASS.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW WE HAVE OUR, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, JUDGEMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

AND THESE ARE LIKE, UM, NOT THAT IT'S A MICROAGGRESSION AT ALL, OR ANY OF THOSE KEY TERMS THAT HE WAS USING IN HIS VOCABULARY IN THIS CLASS THAT OBVIOUSLY HE HAS STUDIED A LOT ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO TEACH THIS CLASS.

UM, BUT I JUST THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE OUR OWN WAY OF ALREADY, ALREADY LISTENING, ALREADY, ALWAYS LISTENING, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIKE STEP BACK AND SAY, WHY AM I THINKING THIS? WELL, I MEAN, LISTEN, I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT IT.

I DON'T THINK I AM PROJECTING A STEREOTYPE.

I THINKING THAT, I THINK THAT IT'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE OPPRESSIONS THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE FACED THAT WAY.

PEOPLE HAVEN'T.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS THAT YOU LIKE YOU CAN'T EQUATE WOULD, HE WAS, HE USED AS ONE OF HIS EXAMPLES THAT A CONSERVATIVE, A POLITICAL CONSERVATIVE, EXPERIENCED MINORITY STRESS.

WELL, POLITICAL CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT A MARGINALIZED GROUP.

THEY WERE NOT ENSLAVED.

THEY WERE NOT COLONIZED.

ALL THESE THINGS DID NOT HAPPEN TO THEM.

SO THEY MIGHT FEEL THAT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT SYSTEM OF OPPRESSION AND THAT'S ALL, AND THIS CLASS WAS SO MUCH MORE GLOBAL THAN JUST THE UNITED STATES.

YEAH.

IT WAS AN, I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE IT.

I FELT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER RECEIVED IF THERE WAS MORE DIVERSITY IN THE DIVERSITY TRAINING.

LET ME, CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I THINK YOU'RE HEARING WHAT SHE'S SAYING AS I DIDN'T RECEIVE WHAT HE SAID BECAUSE I'M VISUALLY SEEING A PERSON AS A WHITE MAN.

YEAH.

WHAT'S SHE SAYING IS HIS LEVEL OF EXPLAINING AND UNDERSTANDING AND FEELING HOW I FEEL WE'LL NEVER BE THERE, WHICH IS TRUE.

HE WILL NEVER COMPLETELY A HUNDRED PERCENT UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL.

AND UM, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

I WAS GOING TO BUY MY HUSBAND A GIFT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY AND IT WAS A FAMILY THERE AND IT WAS NO ONE ELSE THERE AT THE COUNTER.

AND SO I WAITED PROBABLY ABOUT 20 MINUTES WHILE THE LADY WAS WAITING ON THE OTHER FAMILY THAT WAS THERE.

NOW MIND YOU, NO ONE ELSE WAS THERE.

AND A WHITE MAN WALKED UP AND AFTER SHE COMPLETED THE SALE WITH THE FAMILY SHE WAS WORKING WITH, SHE WALKED DIRECTLY TO THE WHITE MAN.

AND I JUST CALMLY SAID, EXCUSE ME, MISS.

I WAS NEXT.

AND SHE SAID, HE WAS HERE EARLIER.

AND I GO, HM.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME IF I'M SHOPPING AT WALMART, WHICH IT WASN'T WALMART.

IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE WATCH.

I HAD ALREADY PICKED IT OUT BEFORE I MADE IT THERE.

AND I'M LIKE, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME IF I'M AT WALMART AND I GO TO THE RESTROOM AND I COME BACK AND I DON'T MAKE A DEAL WITH THE PERSON BEHIND ME, THEN I CAN JUST JUMP BACK IN LINE.

AND SHE GOES, WELL, UM, I WAS HELPING HIM FIRST.

NOW THE OLD ME WOULD HAVE JUST WALKED OUT OF THE STORE.

BUT THIS MEAN, HE GOES, NO, MA'AM, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

I'VE BEEN WAITING HERE 20 MINUTES PATIENTLY.

AND YOU DIDN'T CALL BACK UP.

YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING NOR DID HE JUMP IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HE KNOW HE AGREED WITH HER.

HE GOES, YES, I WAS HERE EARLIER.

SO MY DAUGHTER WAS WITH ME AND SHE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE, UM, WELL SHE'S YOUNGER THAN ME.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT.

AND SO SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WANTED TO BE MORE VOCAL AND I GO, NO, SWEETIE, WE WERE HERE.

SO SHE COMES OVER THERE AND SHE GOES, WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT? AND I GO, OH, WATCH.

AND SHE GOES, WELL, WHICH WATCH DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT? AND I GO THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

AND OF COURSE IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE WATCH IN ACCOUNT UNDER THE COUNTER.

AND I ALREADY HAD PRICED IT AT HOME AND I, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO GET IT FROM HER HUSBAND.

CAUSE I LIKED THE WATCH.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE PRICE.

THE PRICE DIDN'T BOTHER ME.

THIS LADY DID NOT WANT TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE COUNTER.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE THOUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORE IN BROAD DAY LIGHT, I WAS GOING TO SNATCH AND GRAB THE WATCH IF MY 21 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

YEAH.

SO SHE TAKES IT OUT AND SHE TELLS ME THE PRICE.

IF THAT POINT SHE GOES, NOW WHAT I GO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COUNTER AND WE'RE GOING TO BUY IT CAUSE ALREADY PRICED IT.

AND I KNOW I WANT IT.

SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENED TO ME.

RIGHT.

THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

THAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO ME, BUT THEY DON'T EQUAL THAT.

THAT'S MY ISSUE.

THAT ACTUALLY WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE.

WHETHER, WHETHER YOU REALIZE, I KNOW IT WAS MY EXPERIENCE, BUT SEE THE THING ABOUT IT IS YOU HAD THE SKILL AND YOU WERE IN THE POSITION TO SAY, I TAUGHT HER.

AND THAT'S THE THING.

EVEN IF I HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN MY POCKET,

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THAT LADY WILL SAY THAT I ROBBED THE BANK ON THE WAY THERE TO BUY THE WATCH PRECONCEIVED IDEAS AND HER MICROAGGRESSIONS.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

SO THAT'S JUST WHERE SHE'S COME.

SHE'S COMING FROM A PLACE WHERE SHE UNDERSTANDS AND SHE'S SHOWING EMPATHY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PICTURE WHERE YOU SEE IT AS WELL.

HE'S HE UNDERSTANDS AS WELL, BUT HE DOESN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HE'S NEVER HAD TO WALK HIM IN THAT SITUATION, DISQUALIFY HIM FROM TEACHING.

I THINK SHE'S SAYING AT ALL THAT, SHE'S NOT SAYING AT ALL THAT HE'S DISQUALIFIED.

THEY'RE SAYING IT'S INTERESTING THAT, THAT HE IS DOING, HE'S TEACHING THIS.

HONESTLY, I TEACH THIS IN MY GENDER AND THE NEWS CLASS.

YEAH.

BUT I SAY EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID, I'M A WHITE WOMAN.

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ME IN THE SAME WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK HE DID.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S THERE WAS LIKE A PLANNING OF THIS.

I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB.

I HAVE IT ALL, ALL I'M SAYING ONLY THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS HIS VOICE WAS SO CALMING THOSE OFF A COUPLE OF TIMES I DID TOO.

IT WAS MY THING.

THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

AND KHAN IS LIKE, YEAH, HIS VOICE COULD HAVE BEEN.

SO LIKE, WHY IS HE WHISPERING? LET'S DO, LET'S DO A POINT OF ORDER.

LET'S DO A POINT OF ORDER BECAUSE I DO WANT TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH EVERYBODY GIVING THEIR UPDATES.

SO COMMISSIONER GONZALES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR UPDATE OR TALK ABOUT, UM, THE THINGS THAT I GOT OUT OF THERE THEY'RE GOING INTO LIKE THE, UM, THE GENDERS, MEN, WOMEN PRICING, ALL THAT, OR LIKE PAY GRADE AND ALL THAT.

CAUSE MY MOTHER IS CONSTANTLY TELLING ME ABOUT THE TIME WHEN SHE WAS WORKING BECAUSE IT WAS HARDER.

DEFINITELY A LOT HARDER.

SINGLE MOM, SINGLE HISPANIC MOM, THREE DAUGHTERS AT HOME, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND MY MOM'S TRAINING MANAGERS FOR HER BOSS TO DO THE THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WOULD GET IT.

SHE ALSO POSTED THE CHECKS.

SO SHE SAW HOW MUCH EVERYBODY WAS GETTING PAID.

AND SHE SAID, WHY IS HE GETTING PAID THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT THAT I DO? AND HE SAYS, BECAUSE HE'S, UH, HE'S A, HE'S THE BREADWINNER FOR THE FAMILY.

AND MY MOM WOULD SAY, WELL, SO AM I? YEAH, BUT HE'S GOT A WIFE AND KIDS.

AND MY MOM SAYS, I DON'T HAVE A HUSBAND, BUT I'VE GOT KIDS AND I'M DOING THIS WORK AND WHY AM I NOT? AND SO THERE'S BEEN THIS WHOLE FIGHT THAT MY MOM HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT I HAVE, THANKFULLY NOT HAD TO GO THROUGH AT ALL.

UM, AND SO THERE WAS THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TOO, WHEN IT WAS COMING TO THE LGBT I Q Q I PLUS WHAT LGBTQ PLUS IS HOW I KNOW IT.

SO IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO ROLL THAT OFF MY MOUTH.

IT WASN'T LIKE THAT ON THERE.

I WAS LIKE, YEAH, HE HAD A DIFFERENT ONE, BUT SO IT WAS, UH, SO, UM, AT OUR SALON, WE'RE A GENDER NEUTRAL SALON AND THERE WERE JUST THESE REALLY KIND OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, HEY, THIS IS COOL.

WE HAVE GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOMS. WE HAVE GENDER NEUTRAL PRICING.

WE'RE EVEN PART OF STRANDS FOR TRANS IT'S A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, TO JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE A SAFE PLACE.

SO, AND I, BECAUSE I'M IN THE INDUSTRY THAT I'M IN, I'M WE, WE, ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WELCOME BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AROUND ALL THE TIME.

AND PLUS MY KIDS ARE TRANS, I HAVE A TRANSGENDER AND I'VE GOT TWO GAY SONS AND ALL THAT.

BUT, UM, SO I WAS, I WAS KIND OF HAPPY TO KNOW THAT, WELL, WE HAVE THESE GENDER NEUTRAL CONVERSATIONS WHERE IT IS A SAFE SPACE FOR EVERYBODY COMING IN AND I GET TO SEE MY TEAM INTERACT WITH EVERYBODY COMING IN.

AND WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD REPUTATION IN TOWN BECAUSE OF OUR GENDER NEUTRAL PRICING AND HOW SAFE PEOPLE FEEL EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME IN OFF HOURS, LIKE WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT.

OR WE'LL COME IN EARLY OR WHATEVER, JUST TO JUST TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY KIND OF SAFE.

AND WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, BUT FOR US, I GUESS IT'S JUST SUCH A NORMAL CONVERSATION THAT IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND I CAN SEE HOW DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO REALLY HAVE THIS.

AND I FEEL SO LUCKY TO BE IN A CAREER PATH THAT IT'S INCLUSIVE AND IT'S INVITING, OR I SHOULD SAY IN MY SALON COMPANY OURSELVES, THAT WE'VE CREATED THIS WORLD OF ALL THAT BECAUSE A LONG TIME AGO, I THOUGHT, WELL, WHY DO MEN GET CHEAPER HAIRCUTS? IF, IF, IF YOU KNOW, MRS. MARY JANE COMES IN AND SHE'S GOT A SHORT HAIRCUT, WHY DO I CHARGE HER MORE AND HIM LESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, BUT SHE'S EASY.

AND HE'S THE ONE THAT'S VICKY.

SO WE JUST HAVE SHORT AND REGULAR HAIRCUTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN OUR SUB.

SO NOTHING HAS GENDER ANYWHERE.

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AND SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY, YOU KNOW, INSIDE ALL THAT AND JUST THINKING, OH, WE DO THIS, OH, WE DO THAT.

AND THEN I THINK AT OUR BATHROOMS, LIKE, WELL, DOGGONE, IT THAT'S A GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOM.

THAT WAS KINDA NEAT.

BUT A LOT OF IS SOME OF THE THINGS WERE JUST LISTENING TO MY MOM'S.

MY MOM'S CONVERSATIONS JUST KEPT COMING TO THE FOREFRONT OF, UM, THE, UM, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE BEING HAD INSIDE THERE.

GREAT.

GREAT.

AND THANK YOU.

THINK ABOUT IT.

YOUR HOUSE IS GENDER NEUTRAL FOR YOUR HOUSE, YOUR HOME, MY DISHWASHER.

CAUSE REMEMBER YOU HAD TO, DID YOU WANT TO GO, OR DID YOU WANT ME TO GO FIRST? I ACTUALLY DID NOT TAKE THE COURSE CAUSE I WAS SICK.

SO I WAS VERY NOT WATCHING IT.

I WAS IN THE MENTAL STATE TOO, BUT I AM SO SORRY.

NO WORRIES.

NO WORRIES.

UM, SO I, I LIKED, UM, ITEM SIX BARRIERS TO LEADING ACROSS LINES OF DIFFERENCE.

AND, UM, I LIKED SPECIFICALLY THE MICRO AGGRESSIONS AND THE DIFFICULT DIALOGUES, THE EIGHT ROUND RULES.

UM, THE MICROAGGRESSIONS, I TH I REALLY LIKED THOSE, UM, THIS PAST WEEK WE TRAVELED TO PARIS AND MY WIFE AND I, UM, AND IT WAS JUST SO INTERESTING TO SEE MICROAGGRESSIONS.

LIKE, IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT MICROAGGRESSIONS ARE OR THE DEFINITION, I THINK YOU SHOULD TRAVEL TO A DIFFERENT COUNTRY BECAUSE, UM, JUST THE THINGS THAT YOU DO, THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN, AND CAN'T SAY THE THINGS THAT ARE RECEIVED WELL, UM, THE, THE COMMON, YOU KNOW, CLUTCHING YOUR BAG WHENEVER YOU WALK INTO, UM, A HOTEL OR AN OFFICE SPACE, UM, SMILING AT PEOPLE, UM, THESE ARE ALL MICROAGGRESSIONS, UM, PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, SOME OF THEM, THEY DON'T TAKE WELL TO SOME OF THEM, THEY DO, UM, SAYING THANK YOU AT THE WRONG TIME.

UM, WE LEARN FIRSTHAND HOW KIND OF BAD THAT IS SAYING THANK YOU AT THE WRONG TIME TO AN UBER DRIVER.

UM, SO MICROAGGRESSIONS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY, UM, REALLY EYE CATCHING FOR ME THAT I THINK, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL DEFINITELY BE MORE SENSITIVE TO IN MY PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIFE.

UM, JUST THINGS THAT YOU DO THAT MAKE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT REALLY DON'T SIT WELL WITH OTHERS, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WAS AGAIN, VERY EYEOPENING TO ME.

UM, AND THEN THE DIFFICULT DIALOGUES THEY ROUND RULES.

I REALLY LIKED, UM, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT, UM, ALL OF THESE REALLY, BUT SOMETHING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT WAS THE LISTEN, EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN.

UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, AS WELL AS JUST IN REGULAR DAY IN LIFE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF PUT ON YOU KIND OF SAVE FACE AND YOU KIND OF HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LISTEN WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN.

AND THAT COULD REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE A BRIDGE TO, TO JUST THE TOPIC OF BARRIERS, UH, THAT LEAD ACROSS LINES OF DIFFERENCE.

AND I THINK WHENEVER YOU LISTEN, UM, WHEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN, YOU'RE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM, AND IT HELPS YOU TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK, A DIFFERENT MINDSET ON WHAT YOU KNOW IS BEING RELAYED TO YOU BY THAT PERSON.

SO I REALLY LIKED THE TRAINING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY SIMPLISTIC.

I THOUGHT, UM, HE DID A GREAT JOB ON, UM, TAKING SUCH COMPLEX ISSUES AND REALLY SIMPLIFYING IT DOWN.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, EASILY DIGESTIBLE, BUT IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

AND IT'S EASY TO KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER WALKER, OR COMMISSIONER WALKER ABOUT KIND OF PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE SH KIND OF PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE SHOES OF, UM, TAKING A STEP BACK AND KIND OF DOING A SELF-INVENTORY.

I THINK HE REALLY HELPED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THESE COMPLEX ISSUES VERY SIMPLISTIC.

SO YOU CAN THEN TAKE THAT AND SAY, AM I DOING THIS IN MY M M IS THERE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHECK MYSELF ON, UM, SO THAT I AM BEING MORE INCLUSIVE, MORE OPENING AND WELCOMING TO OTHERS.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THE TRAINING.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, A VERY GOOD TRAINING FOR ANYBODY THAT REALLY WANTS TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY AT ITS CORE.

THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD TRAINING.

UM, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE DIALOGUE THAT WE HAD.

I THINK THIS WAS GREAT DIALOGUE, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THESE TRAININGS, NOT ONLY FOR OURSELVES, BUT ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE NOT QUESTIONS OR, UM, UH, ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THESE ARE TOPICS AND, UM, POINTS OF INTEREST THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE.

AND I THINK US STARTING THIS, THESE CONVERSATIONS CAN, MAYBE IT WON'T HELP

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IN, IN, IN A MONTH OR IN A YEAR, BUT I THINK AT WHENEVER IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR S OUR, OUR COMMUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, EASILY TALK ABOUT THESE, THESE TOPICS AND ISSUES.

SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE DIALOGUE.

DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION ON 8.4? ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, WE SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT WE WILL BE DOING FOR OUR NEXT TRAINING FOR NEXT MONTH.

UM, IF YOU HAVE TO DO WITH IT, THE XL SPREADSHEET, I ACTUALLY PRINTED IT OUT.

UM, I THINK WE HAD IT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.

UM, GRACIE, ARE WE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP? IT WAS SENT IN THE PACKET BACK IN DECEMBER.

UM, I THINK I ATTACHED A COPY AS WELL IN YOUR PACKET FOR THIS AGENDA.

UM, IT DIDN'T GET WAS UNDER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER PROBABLY ITEM 8.4, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HERE, LET ME JUST BRING UP THE WEBSITE.

OH, YES, IT IS IN THE PACKET.

IT'S PAGE 14.

YOU'RE ASKING WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO NEXT.

YES.

SO I WAS WAITING FOR GRACIE TO, TO PULL UP THE, UH, WHICH ONES HAVE WE DONE FROM HERE.

UH, SO WE HAVE DONE THE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS.

UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE THE DIVERSITY FOR DUMMIES, UM, AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT WE'VE DONE.

CORRECT.

WHAT ABOUT UNDERSTANDING DIVERSITY INCLUSION? THE SECOND PAGE, ONE OTHER LEARNING NORMAL THAT'S THE ONE DAY.

NEVERMIND.

DID WE DO THAT ONE? I THOUGHT WE'VE ONLY DONE TWO CAUSE TO DO THE NEXT ONE.

SO YOU'RE VOTING FOR THAT ONE.

NO, I'M SAYING EITHER THIS ONE, BUT I SAW THIS ONE WAS ONE DAY.

SO THE ONE NEXT WEEK.

YEAH.

THE FOUNDATIONS OF DIVERSITY INCLUSION FROM UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA.

IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, I WAS SAYING THAT ONE'S ONE DAY AND EIGHT HOUR.

SO I HAVE THAT WE'VE DONE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS ON DECEMBER 1ST AND THEN THE DIVERSITY FOR DUMMIES TODAY.

AND THEN THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT I HAVE.

HAVE WE DONE ANOTHER ONE? I THOUGHT WE DIDN'T.

I THOUGHT WE SKIPPED ONE IN JANUARY.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I WAS MONA WAS THREE WEEKS.

WE DIDN'T DO ONE FOR DECEMBER.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO WE DID THE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS AND THE DIVERSITY FOR DUMMIES.

SO THAT'S JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

SO NOW, UM, WE ARE PICKING OUR NEXT ONE.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE MANAGING A DIVERSE TEAM FOUNDATIONS FOR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE, DIVERSITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING, UNDERSTANDING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND UNDERSTANDING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AS WELL.

YEAH.

THESE ARE TWO, BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE DIFFERENT COURSES.

UM, THE BELONGING, YEAH.

SINCE WE HAVE A FULL MONTH, I WOULD SAY I THROW MY VOTE FOR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE.

THAT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE.

OKAY.

THE E S S E C BUSINESS SCHOOL ONE, CORRECT.

I'LL SECOND.

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DO WE HAVE A VOTE FOR ANY OTHER ONES? OKAY.

SO WE HAVE OUR, I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION, SO I MAKE A MOTION FOR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER PRIETTO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? OKAY.

WITH THAT, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

HI, COMMISSIONER CHEN.

AYE.

CHAIRMAN THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER WALKER.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER SPOONS.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER GHETTO.

HI, MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

SO FOR OUR MARCH, UM, DNI COMMISSION MEETING, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE, UM, UM, TRAINING.

AND SO I WILL GET THAT LINK OUT TO GRACIE TOMORROW, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THAT.

AND, UM, AND GRACIE JUST, UM, FOR OUR, FOR THE PACKET, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS, THOSE THREE QUESTIONS ADDED, SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE KIND OF SOME STRUCTURE TO THE DISCUSSION.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM 8.4, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO 8.5 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WEBSITE SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, SO FOR THIS ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT COMING BACK AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE VOTED LAST, LAST MEETING ON THE ACTUAL SUB COMMITTEE MIGHT NOT REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY.

UM, YOU DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING OF CREATING ONE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBERED.

I REMEMBER I THOUGHT WE VOTED BECAUSE THEN YOU VOLUNTEERED.

AND I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO JUST BACKGROUND AGAIN, REFRESHING MINDS.

UM, SO THIS CAME ABOUT, UM, WE LOOKED AT A, ANOTHER CITY'S WEBSITE, THEIR STRUCTURE.

UM, WE ALSO HAD, UM, A MEMBER OF THE WEBSITE SUB COMMITTEE THAT WAS THERE IN THE ROOM AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP OUR WEBSITE THE SAME, BUT WE CAN HAVE A LANDING PAGE THAT GOES TO OUR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WEB PAGE.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS.

UM, SO ALL OF THAT SAID, WE KIND OF JUST THREW AROUND THE IDEA OF HAVING A WEBSITE SUBCOMMITTEE COMMITTEE AND WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE FOR IT.

UM, YAY OR NAY, IF WE WANTED TO CREATE ONE, UM, THIS WEBSITE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD HANDLE THINGS SUCH AS PUTTING ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE ON OUR WEBPAGE, SO THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE INQUIRING ABOUT OUR CITY, UM, CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE THESE PROCLAMATIONS.

UM, THEY CAN ALSO, CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT TYPES OF TRAININGS ARE BEING OFFERED, UM, THAT WE ARE DOING ON OUR SUBACUTE ON OUR COMMISSION, AS WELL AS TRAININGS THAT WE'RE DOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WE CAN PUT ITEMS SUCH AS QUOTES OR RECOGNITIONS, UM, FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS.

WE COULD PUT THAT ON THERE.

UM, WE CAN ALSO POST THE CALENDAR AND EVENTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

SO THIS WOULD BE JUST KIND OF A CENTRAL PLACE FOR CITIZENS TO COME AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HUDDLE IS DOING TO BE MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE.

UM, AND SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD SUB COMMITTEE FOR US TO, TO START.

UM, ALSO I COULD SEE THIS BEING SOMETHING WHERE IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD AND HAVE SOME SORT OF ONLINE LIBRARY RESOURCE THAT, UM, CITIZENS CAN USE FOR A BOOK CLUB OR, UM, STUDENTS COULD USE FOR SUMMER READING.

THIS COULD BE A GREAT PLACE AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, WANTED TO THROW THIS IDEA OUT THERE AND FIRST GET THOUGHTS AND THEN HOPEFULLY BRING IT TO A VOTE, UM, ON FORMULATING A WEBSITE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I THINK I'VE ALREADY STATED, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, THAT'S MY POSITION.

THERE WE GO.

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I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SPOONS, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE GOT A LOT OF WORDS OUT THERE KNOWINGLY, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF PUT THE WORD OUT THERE.

UM, OUR, WHAT WE'RE DOING INVOLVED, PUTTING STUFF IN THE WEBSITE, IS THIS WHAT WE'RE ALL LIKE, IF WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING WE GET ON THERE, LIKE HOW LIKE, WELL, I THINK TO KEEP IT ORGANIZED, THAT'S WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE FOR.

UM, SO THAT EVERYBODY'S NOT LIKE HAVING A FREE FOR ALL AND THROWING STUFF ON THERE.

AND MY KID'S PICTURE ON THERE.

SO WE'RE NOT LAYING THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

OH YEAH.

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

AND THROWING IT ON THERE.

UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YEAH, AND I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITES OF COMMITTEE, THEY WOULD FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WANT IT TO BE STRUCTURED.

UM, I THINK WE CAN GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A COMMISSION WHOLE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, HEY, I'D LIKE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROCLAMATIONS TO BE THEIR OWN PAGE ON OUR, ON OUR, YOU KNOW, ON OUR PAGE OR, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR THE TRAININGS TO SCROLL ON THE SIDE CORNER THAT SAYS PROCLAMATION PROCLAMATION.

YEAH.

SO I THINK WE CAN HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THAT.

UM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO POST THE FINDINGS OF OUR ASSESSMENT ON, ON, ON THE WEBSITE, JUST SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, OUR MAKEUP AND HOW OUR CITY IS DOING, UM, BEING MORE INCLUSIVE.

UM, I THINK WE CAN ALL BRING DIFFERENT IDEAS TO THE WEBSITE.

SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR US TO SHOWCASE WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

RIGHT.

I AGREE.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKING MOTIONS.

SO I'LL JUST WAIT, UM, MOTION THAT WE, UM, HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OR, UM, THE INCLUSION DIVERSITY, TWO INCLUSION WITH SITE SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE GOT A SECOND, A THIRD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WALKER AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PRIETTO.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? WOULD THAT PLEASE CALL THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER WALKER? I CHAIRMAN THOMPSON, MR. CHEN, MR. GONZALEZ.

I MISSIONER SPOONS.

I COMMISSIONER PIETRO, I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

AND SO FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AROUND AND WE WILL, UM, SEE, WHO'D LIKE TO SERVE ON THOSE COMMISSIONS OR ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND THEN FROM THERE, UM, I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE GETTING WITH THE, UM, COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE.

UM, KIND OF GIVE THEM OUR VISION FOR HOW WE'D LIKE OUR WEBPAGE TO LOOK AND, UM, YEAH, WE'LL BE OFF AND RUNNING.

SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR THAT NEXT ONE.

MOVE TO 8.6 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE ONLINE CITY OF HUTTOE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION LIBRARY.

UM, SO THIS WAS MY ITEM AS WELL.

UM, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE DID NOT VOTE ON IT.

SO THEN THIS, JUST TO REFRESH MINE'S ON THIS ONE.

UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME SORT OF ONLINE LIBRARY RESOURCE THAT WE COULD UTILIZE TO KIND OF PROMOTE A BOOK CLUB OR PROMOTE SUMMER READING.

UM, IT WOULD BE, UM, A LAUNDRY LIST OF BOOK TITLES AS WELL AS BOOK AUTHORS, UM, THAT ARE DIVERSIFIED.

UM, THAT'S WHEN CHRISTIE, YOU POPPED IN AND TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE A, UM, LIBRARY RESOURCE WITH, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WAS THAT CORRECT? NO.

SO WE HAVE A CONSORTIUM, UM, AND IT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN WE DO SHARE AN ONLINE, UH, E PRESENCE WITH HOW DO ISD.

UM, SO THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT HAS A LIBRARY CARD.

UM, AND REALLY WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE, UM, WAS THE COLLECTION THAT WE CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE THAT MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS IF Y'ALL WANT IT TO BRING AWARENESS TO THAT, OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING KIND OF SOMETHING SEPARATE, LIKE WITH THE WEBSITE, I WASN'T REALLY SURE.

I WAS JUST MORE OR LESS JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU WHAT WE, WHAT ALREADY WE HAVE, UM, TO BUILD OFF OF, OR, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF COLLABORATE WITH.

AND FROM THAT DISCUSSION,

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WE TALKED ABOUT MEETING WITH COLEEN ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, AS WELL AS THE LIBRARIAN, UM, TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE DONE AS FAR AS AN ONLINE CITY LIBRARIAN, KIND OF A DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION LIBRARY, UM, SEEING IF WE COULD T TAG TEAM THAT WITH THE LIBRARY COMMISSION OR IF WE COULD KIND OF JUST FORMULATE THAT OURSELVES.

I DID JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

SO COLEEN TIERNEY IS LIBRARY MANAGER, STAFF, UM, AND THE, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A CITY COUNCIL LIAISON FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, UH, SINCE, UH, TANNER ROSE IS NO LONGER ON CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED I BELIEVE, OR IS THAT GOING TO MAYBE HAPPEN SOON? SO, UM, DEFINITELY WORKING WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ON, UM, BEST ROUTE TO GO AS FAR AS, UM, MAYBE INCORPORATING AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE WEBSITE AND THIS ITEM ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS OR IF THEY'RE SOMEHOW CONNECTED.

UM, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE MAYBE FIRST ROUTE TO GO.

OKAY.

AND YOU WERE SAYING THE FIRST ROUTE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE GETTING WITH COLEEN.

YEAH.

SO SHE LET ME KNOW, UM, THAT SHE REACHED OUT TO YOU TO SCHEDULE A TIME.

AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AS FAR AS WHAT, UM, EXACTLY, UH, YOU WERE ASKING HER, LIKE, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S JUST, AND I'M HAPPY TO, I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE ALL KIND OF SIT DOWN AND CHAT ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE IN HER MIND, UM, IT MAY BE, UM, SHE'S THINKING IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE WEBSITE FROM WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE.

WE HAVE THIS LIBRARY CONSORTIUM THAT WE MANAGE AND OVERSEE.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST, THERE'S A BIT OF CONFUSION AS FAR AS WHAT EXACTLY THIS WOULD BE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THEN MAYBE THE BEST ROUTE WOULD BE TALKING WITH HER FIRST.

SURE.

AND CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UM, IT APPEARS ON MY NOTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING THAT YOU ALL DID VOTE ON THIS.

UM, AND THE MOTION I'M SHOWING WAS INITIATED BY YOU.

AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GONZALES AND IT WAS SIX TO ZERO.

SO THEN I GUESS THE NEXT STEP WOULD JUST BE TALKING TO COLEEN, SEEING IF WE'RE DUPLICATING EFFORTS OR IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD STILL CONTINUE ON DOING.

I THINK SO JUST TO KIND OF MAYBE SAVE SOME CONFUSION AND SOME MOVING FORWARD.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK PERFECT.

SO CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, GET WITH COLEEN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO FOLLOW UP WITH COLLEEN AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE IN ON THAT CONVERSATION.

I'D WELCOME THAT.

AND JUST, I GUESS, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IF WE'RE GOING TO DUPLICATE EFFORTS, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMISSION COULD TAG TEAM OR COUPLE WITH THE LIBRARY COMMISSION OR WITH COLEEN HERSELF, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

UM, BUT I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO, TO SPEAK WITH COLEEN AND THEN COME BACK TO OUR COMMISSION AND KIND OF GIVE A REPORT ON THAT.

SO DO WE NEED A SECOND AND VOTE ON THAT? WE DO.

OKAY.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? I DO.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN'T EVEN ASK THE QUESTION CAUSE I DON'T KNOW REALLY.

I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

UM, SO FOR A SECOND, I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU SAID THE WEBSITE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, IF THIS MAY COHEN, YOU KNOW, KINDA GO WITH IT.

I'M SORRY.

I DID THAT IN YOU, YOU FALLING, YOU FOLLOWED MY HANDS.

I'M SORRY, BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I HAVE THIS VISION IN MY HEAD.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S KINDA LIKE, UM, FOR US ALMOST LIKE A REFERRAL TO WHAT IS ALREADY THERE, LIKE MAYBE A FEATURE OF SOME BOOKS MAYBE, BUT BECAUSE MY, MY ISSUE IS I WANT TO STAY ON THIS APPROVAL LIST BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IN MY HEAD KIND OF LIKE THERE ARE CERTAIN BOOKS THAT ARE NO, NO BOOKS, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE WE SAY THERE ARE NO NO BOOKS, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OR WHOEVER, WHATEVER ENTITY, YOU KNOW, DEEMS THEM, NO, NO BOOKS.

SO FOR ME, I'M THINKING THE WEBSITE USES WHATEVER YOU CALLED IT TO FOR THESE BOOKS AND WE CAN FEATURE THEM.

SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF WHAT IS THE SAYING THE CART BEFORE, WHATEVER IT IS.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK WITH THE WEBSITE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON BECAUSE WE CAN, LIKE YOU SAID, FEATURE THE BOOKS AND SHOW THEM HOW TO GET TO THE BOOKS.

RIGHT.

UM, BECAUSE THE RESOURCE, LIKE YOU SAID IS ALREADY THERE AND WE DON'T WANT TO RECREATE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CREATED.

IF WE CAN JUST SHOW THEM HOW TO GET TO IT.

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AND, BUT IT'S STILL, UM, UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION SAYING, HEY, LOOK HERE THIS EXCELLENT RESOURCES HERE, LOOK AT THIS BOOK, YOU KNOW, AND FEATURE SOMETHING, JUST A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IN MY HEAD.

NO, NO, THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE.

AND MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE PITCHED TO COLEEN IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SECTION ON OUR WEBPAGE, BUT IT'S, IT LEADS BACK TO THE LIBRARY BOARD.

IT MIGHT BE.

CAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT SHE'S THINKING.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER.

SHE'S PROBABLY GONE.

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN IF IT'S ALREADY DONE? YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE ANGLE THAT WE TAKE COMMUNICATION.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER OR, SORRY.

UM, GRACIE, DO WE NEED TO, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COMMISSIONER GONZALES? I, MR. SPINS I, MR. WALKER, I CHAIRMAN THOMPSON COMMISSIONER PRIETTO.

I MR. CHIN MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

SO I WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THAT UPDATE FROM COLEEN.

ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE CLOSE UP SHOP TONIGHT, JUST TO RECAP, UM, THE CALENDAR AND EVENTS COMMITTEE WILL, UM, SPEAK TO THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA AS WELL AS THE GIRL SCOUTS, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE INFO BOARDS, UM, TO HOPEFULLY BE COMPLETED BY JUNE.

UM, AND ALSO, UM, TRY TO WORK ON A THREE-MONTH CALENDAR TO BRING BACK TO US, UM, FOR, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

UM, THE 10 TO 15 QUESTIONS BY THE ASSESSMENT COMMITTEE WILL BE GIVEN TO THE VENDOR THAT IS CHOSEN.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CHEN WILL ALSO REACH OUT TO, UM, OR COMMISSIONER CHEN WILL REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ABOUT VENDORS AND UNDERSTANDING KIND OF THAT RELATIONSHIP.

UM, AND THEN THE TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE WILL ALSO, UM, LOOK AT LEADING A DISCUSSION FOR THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE, UM, TRAINING FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT LINK WILL BE GIVEN TO GRACIE TO SEND OUT FOR TOMORROW.

AND LASTLY, WE WILL, UM, BE SPEAKING WITH COLEEN AND GIVING AN UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION LIBRARY FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

GREAT.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7 53.