ALL RIGHT, AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE'LL CALL THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY,
[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
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FEBRUARY 17TH, 2022 TO ORDER.HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
NEXT WILL BE LED IN INVOCATION BY DEPUTY PHILLIP ANELLI OF THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE.
MAYOR SNYDER COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU ALL PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE? OUR MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE GATHER TONIGHT AS FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES TO SERVE OUR FELLOW MAN BY DOING THE REQUIRED BUSINESS FOR THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.
PLEASE GUIDE OUR EFFORTS SO THAT WE CAN DO THE VERY BEST FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND FAMILIES.
GIVE US ALL WISDOM, PATIENCE AND COURAGE.
BLESS THIS COUNCIL AND THE FINE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN TO LEAD US.
SO OFTEN OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS GO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION THEY SO DESERVE.
BLESS THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS AS THEY ENDEAVOR TO MAKE THIS A BETTER HOME FOR ALL OF US.
FORGIVE US ALL OF OUR SINS IN YOUR SON'S NAME, WE PRAY, AMEN.
PLEDGE] ALL RIGHT. NEXT THAT BRINGS US TO CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.
[5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
CITY MANAGER TURNER. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.ONE, THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL CALLED CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 24TH, BEGINNING AT 6:00 P.M.
THERE WILL BE TWO ITEMS ON THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR A MASTER PLAN FOR WASTEWATER AND MASTER PLAN AGREEMENT FOR WATER CONTRACTS.
ALSO ON MONDAY IS PRESIDENT'S DAY.
CITY HALL OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF LETTING ME ATTEND MY FIRST WORLD HIPPO DAY.
IT WAS A BLAST. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.
[6. PROCLAMATION - Black History Month 2022]
ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR COMING.ALL RIGHT THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION 2022.
WHEREAS THROUGH BRAVERY, PERSEVERANCE, FAITH, AND RESOLVE, BLACK AMERICANS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SHAPING THE ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT OF AMERICAN LIFE, OFTEN IN THE FACE OF PREJUDICE AND HARDSHIP.
AND WHEREAS THEIR FIGHT FOR EQUALITY, REPRESENTATION AND RESPECT MOTIVATES US TO CONTINUE WORKING FOR A MORE EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE FUTURE FOR EVERY AMERICAN.
AND WHEREAS SINCE FEBRUARY 1926 A WEEK TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY WAS INITIATED BY AMERICAN HISTORIAN CARTER G.
WOODSON. AND WHEREAS IN 1976, THE WEEK WAS EXPANDED TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS AN OCCASION TO REDISCOVER THE ENDURING STORIES OF BLACK AMERICANS, MANY OF WHOM LIVED THROUGH THE SCOURGE OF SLAVERY, SEGREGATION, RACIAL PREJUDICE AND DISCRIMINATION.
AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS A TIME TO COMMEMORATE BLACK AMERICANS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CHARACTER, CULTURE AND ECONOMIC LIFE OF OUR STATE AND NATION.
AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS A TIME TO HONOR BLACK AMERICANS HEROISM AND PATRIOTISM THAT HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS THE CONFIDENCE AND COURAGE TO PURSUE THEIR OWN DREAMS. AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVANCE OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOCUSES ATTENTION ON THE PERSISTENT NEED TO COMBAT RACISM AND INJUSTICE OF ALL TYPES AND BUILD A SOCIETY THAT
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LIVES UP TO ITS EGALITARIAN IDEALS.AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO IS STRENGTHENED AND ENRICHED BY ITS DIVERSE CITIZENS.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO REJECTS ANY DISCRIMINATION THROUGH ITS VALUES, POLICIES AND PRACTICES. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO HAS MADE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION OF ALL GROUPS A PRIORITY AND SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED WORK OF THE CITY'S DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION TO RAISE AWARENESS AND PROMOTE A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2022 AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF HUTTO.
THE CITY MAKES THIS PROCLAMATION TO CELEBRATE THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND TO AFFIRM THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PROTECT AND SERVE EVERYONE WHO RESIDES IN, WORKS IN OR VISITS THE CITY OF HUTTO WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION AND ITS BELIEF IN THE DIGNITY, EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE. PROCLAIMED THE 17TH DAY, FEBRUARY 2022.
CAN YOU INTRODUCE THE PEOPLE ON THE D&I THAT ARE THERE WITH YOU FOR THE RECORD? YES, YES. DO A PICTURE, AND THEN WE'LL.
SO WE HAVE CHAIRMAN BRIAN THOMPSON, WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER GINA CHEN AND BOARD MEMBER TARA SPOONS.
NO. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SAY? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[APPLAUSE] YOU GUYS WANT THIS? THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
[7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]
WE HAVE ANY THERE? I DO HAVE ONE.I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY MANAGER TURNER FOR COMING OUT TO DOWNTOWN HUTTO ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER.
GET HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE THE BUILDING AND MEET SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS DOWN THERE AND HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND MAYBE START CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO BETTER TO SERVE THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.
AND KIND OF START BEING MORE ENGAGED.
I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THEM HAVE REACHED OUT AND SAID THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO GO DOWN THERE AND BUY SOME TAFFY.
SO ANYWAY, I ENJOYED THE TIME GETTING TO KNOW YOU BETTER ON A SOCIAL LEVEL AND KIND OF INTRODUCE YOU TO THE HISTORY OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PLANS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY'VE MADE AND HOW THE CITY CAN COME TOGETHER AND WORK WITH THEM TO HELP PROMOTE THOSE BUSINESSES MORE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER AN AWESOME HIPPO DAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID TO MAKE IT A SPECIAL DAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT TO CITY HALL AND ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WE HAD VISITORS THAT I WAS MEETING FROM PFLUGERVILLE, ROUND ROCK AND GEORGETOWN, SO THAT WAS A NICE DRAW FOR THEM AND FOR WORKING WITH THE ISD DRUM LINE TO GET THEM HERE.
PEOPLE COULD HEAR THEM PRETTY FAR AWAY.
[LAUGHTER] AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS SUPER COOL AND THEN HAPPY PANINI BEING HERE WAS ALSO A REALLY NICE TREAT FOR EVERYBODY, SO IT WAS JUST AN AWESOME DAY WITH LOTS OF GREAT PEOPLE HERE AT CITY HALL.
THIS MORNING WE ALSO HAD A COMMUNITY AND ACTION MEETING, SO THIS IS A COALITION THAT'S BEEN FORMED FOR OUR NON-PROFITS THAT ARE HERE IN HUTTO AND SPOKE WITH ISAAC TODAY, AS WELL AS STACY ON JUST TRYING TO HELP OUT OUR NONPROFIT SPACE, LIKE HAVE A SPACE AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESOURCE SHARING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND WAS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE, AND IT WAS JUST REALLY AWESOME TO SEE ALL THE SHARING THAT'S GOING ON OF RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU SEE THAT ALSO WITH THE WOMEN'S NETWORKING GROUP AND ALL OF THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE MEETING FROM WEEK TO WEEK IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY AWESOME PROJECTS GOING ON.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED ON THE NONPROFIT SIDE, FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW AND I'LL GET Y'ALL CONNECTED WITH THEM.
AND JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR A GREAT WEEK.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? YEAH, I'VE JUST GOT A QUICK ONE.
LAST WEEK, I ANNOUNCED A PROJECT THAT THE BLACK FAMILIES OF HUTTO IS SPONSORING OUT OF THE SHILO CEMETERY.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO SHILO CEMETERIES IN HUTTO, SO THERE'S THE SHILOH MCCUTCHEON AND THEN
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THE SHILOH BLACK CEMETERY, AND THIS IS AT THE SHILOH BLACK CEMETERY.IT'S A CEMETERY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE 1800S DURING SEGREGATION, AND THERE ARE ROUGHLY 200 BURIALS IN THE CEMETERY, BUT ONLY A THIRD OF THEM ARE MARKED.
AND SO THERE'S UPWARDS OF 100 TO 150 BURIALS THAT ARE NOT MARKED THERE.
AND SO THEY'RE DOING A PROJECT TO CLEAN OUT AND GET RID OF ALL OF ANY METALLIC OBJECTS AT ALL THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO USE A MAGNETOMETER THAT'S GOING TO GO DOWN INTO THE GROUND AND LOOK FOR THOSE UNMARKED GRAVES.
AND SO THEY NEED EVERYTHING OFF THE SURFACE.
AND SO THIS SATURDAY, FROM 9:00 TO 2:00, THEY'RE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO COME OUT AND JUST HELP CLEAR THE LAND AND MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
AND THEN NEXT WEEK, DURING THE WEEKDAY, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW VOLUNTEERS TO HELP MARK OUT THE GRIDS. SO THE TEAM WHO COMES IN WITH A MAGNETOMETER CAN COME IN THERE AND BASICALLY MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING.
SO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT DETAILS ARE ON THE WEBSITE JUSTSERVE.ORG.
AND IF YOU PUNCH IN HUTTO'S ZIP CODE, IT'LL BE THE FIRST ONE THAT POPS UP AND YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION IN THERE. THERE'S CONTACT INFORMATION FOR BLACK FAMILIES OF HUTTO AND HOW YOU CAN SERVE AND HOW YOU CAN HELP OUT, SO JUST ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED THERE. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? I'D JUST LIKE TO TAG OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO ON THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD THIS MORNING. THERE WILL BE A SPONSORED FUNDRAISER THAT IS THROUGH AMPLIFY AUSTIN WITH THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER BEING THE SORT OF THE CENTRAL HUTTO FUNDRAISER OR ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, IT'S GOING TO BE ON MARCH THE 2ND FROM 4:00 TO 7:00 AT STOCKADE KITCHEN.
SO WE'D LIKE TO JUST INVITE EVERYBODY OUT.
GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF SEE A LOT OF THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE HERE IN TOWN AND FIND OUT WAYS THAT YOU, AS CITIZENS CAN HELP SUPPORT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
ANY OTHERS. I AM LOOKING FOR A SECOND FOR AN AGENDA ITEM TO GO OFF OF SOMETHING COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF AN AGENDA ITEM COMING UP TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF FORMING A BUSINESS BOARD FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND OTHER BOARDS.
ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN THAT ITEM.
SHOULD THAT COME UNDER 12.1 AT THAT TIME.
12.1. NO, THAT'D BE A FORMATION OF A NEW BOARD.
I'LL EMAIL SOME PEOPLE ON THAT.
YEAH, I'LL SECOND THAT. THANKS, SIR.
MOVE ON TO ITEM 7.2, CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.
SOMEONE HAVE A LIAISON REPORT? THE D&I MET ON TUESDAY, AND WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.
MS. STACY, ALISON, KRISTI, AND MATT SO A LOT OF STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT PROJECT TO HAVE THAT RFQ GO OUT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GO OUT AT THE END OF THE WEEK AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT COMMUNITY SURVEY OUT.
AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT JUST TO THE D&I COMMISSION AND THEN ALSO JUST THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO DEFINITELY STILL ON THE RADAR AND STILL HAPPENING.
SO I WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS APPRIZED OF THAT SITUATION.
AND THEN ALSO THE FUNDS FOR TRAINING THAT WE ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET.
I BELIEVE IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF ASKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM US.
DO WE WANT THEM TO PICK THE TRAINING FIRST OR TRAINER OR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT AND PRESENT TO US? OR DO WE WANT TO SAY GOES TOWARDS THIS AND KIND OF US PICK? SO THEY'RE KIND OF MORE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL GUIDANCE ON THAT.
SO OBVIOUSLY, I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL BEFORE I GAVE THAT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE SHOULD ALSO PUT ON JUST TO DISCUSS WHICH ROUTE WE WOULD PREFER TO GO.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? YES, SIR. OK.
WE HAD AN EDC MEETING, IT'S GOTTEN PRETTY ACTIVE.
I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL.
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WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMPANIES COME AND PRESENT.THEY GAVE KIND OF A PRESENTATION.
ONE WAS REAL INTERNATIONAL REAL ESTATE AND ONE WAS FLINT DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAVE IDEAS ON HOW THEY CAN, SHOULD HUTTO WANT TO SELL LAND OR ASSIGN OPTIONS TO THEM. THEY HAVE IDEAS ON WHAT THEY THINK WOULD MAKE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.
EVERYTHING FROM ROUGHLY 224 ACRE DEVELOPMENT UP TO 730 ACRES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS, THERE ARE MORE A LINE OF PEOPLE WANTING TO DEVELOP IN HUTTO COMMERCIALLY, AND SO THERE WILL BE OTHERS THAT WILL COME.
BUT THESE WERE THE TWO THAT PRESENTED TO US IN PUBLIC.
SO MORE TO COME ON THAT I ANTICIPATE.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NOT SLOWING DOWN, I THINK EVERYBODY'S HEARD BEFORE THAT COMMERCIAL FOLLOWS ROOFTOPS, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOFTOPS, AND NOW APPARENTLY THE COMMERCIAL WAVE IS HERE.
THOSE THAT PRESENTED WAS THAT FOR THE MEGA SITE OR FOR OTHER SITES OR SPEAKERS]. OTHER SITES. PART OF THE LAND TO THE WEST OF WHAT WE CONSIDER THE MEGA SITE.
OK. ANY OTHER COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.
ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, GRACIE, I DID NOT SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
NO, SIR. OK, SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS WE'LL MOVE NEXT TO CONSENT AGENDA.
[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
BUT I WAS ASKED IF THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO MOVE ITEMS 11.2 AN ITEM, 11.3 TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THEN THE CONSENT ITEMS WOULD BE ITEM 9.1, 9.2, 11.2 AND 11.3.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 9.2 FROM CONSENT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
SO MOVED. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON, DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
SECONDED BY? I DIDN'T CATCH IT GORDON HOLLAND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE ONE.
MS. CLAWSON IS HERE, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF SHE HAD WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT ALL. I HATE TO JUST SORT OF VOTE AND SAY BYE.
SO JUST TO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY IF SHE WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING TO THE COUNCIL.
HI, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE YOUR CITY AND WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT AND WE WERE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE QUICKLY.
I GUESS JUST FOR THE RECORD, I GUESS WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THERE WAS A FORM AND WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THEY'VE GOT IT FILLED OUT THE FORM 1295.
YES, SIR. EMAIL RECEIVED THIS WEEK AND IT WAS FILED NEXT DAY AND THEN HAND-DELIVERED THIS MORNING. AND THERE'S NO CHANGES IN FEES.
THIS IS JUST A FORMALITY? NO CHANGES ON ANYTHING.
IT'S A FORMALITY. THAT IS CORRECT.
THE CHANGE CAME OVER TIME DURING THE TENURE OF THE CONTRACT.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION APPROVING 9.1, 11.2 AND 11.3.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 9.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MODIFICATION TO THE KASSAB
[9.2. Consideration and possible action on a modification to The Kassab firm’s engagement agreement, modifying it to flat fee, pending the Texas Attorney General’s Office’s approval of the contingent fee engagement agreement.]
FIRM'S ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT, MODIFYING IT TO FLAT FEE PENDING THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE'S APPROVAL OF THE CONTINGENT FEE ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT.YES, SIR WE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL PROCESS TO.
CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.
I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS GEORGE HYDE.
I'M THE LITIGATION COUNSEL FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO.
THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS TWO OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS, HAVE AUTHORIZED THE ENGAGEMENT OF KASSAB LAW IN ORDER TO BRING LEGAL MALPRACTICE CLAIMS AGAINST FORMER
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CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE CITY BETWEEN THE TIME PERIOD OF 2017 THROUGH 2020.IT WAS IN MARCH OF 2020 WHEN THE CITIES BEGAN TO LEARN OF THE ALLEGED INAPPROPRIATE CONDUCT AND INAPPROPRIATE ACTIONS BY YOUR FORMER COUNSEL.
AND SO AN ATTORNEY CLIENT OR A LEGAL MALPRACTICE CASE IS CONTROLLED UNDER THE TORT CLAIMS STATUTE OF LIMITATION, WHICH IS TWO YEARS AND SO COME MARCH IF THERE IS NOT A SUIT FILED, THEN ANY OF THE CLAIMS THAT OCCURRED MORE THAN TWO YEARS FROM THAT TIME PERIOD ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO LITIGATE AND RECOVER FROM IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO BECAUSE A CONTINGENCY FEE CONTRACT BEFORE IT CAN BE ENGAGED AND ANYONE CAN WORK UNDER ONE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SOME OF OUR NOTICING WAS CRITICIZED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
I CAN GO INTO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW THAT WENT.
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS ITS CLAIMS WITHIN THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION AND DOES NOT LOSE ANY OF THOSE CLAIMS AVAILABLE TO IT WE RECOMMENDED THAT YOU ENGAGE THEM ON A LITERALLY $10 FLAT FEE TO ENGAGE THEIR SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR CLAIMS. WHILE WE ARE ABLE TO REFILE THE CLAIMS WITH THE NOTICES OF WHICH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTS TO SEE AND GET THAT APPROVED.
AND THEN ONCE THAT OCCURS, THE THE CONTINGENCY FEE CLAIM WILL SUBSTITUTE FOR THE $10 FLAT FEE CASE. AND I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU AS MY CLIENT THAT I'LL DONATE THE $10 IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF LIFE OR DEATH.
STATUTE OF LIMITATION IS A HARSH RULE, BUT IT'S THERE FOR A REASON.
SO I WANTED TO HAVE THIS PULLED JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE AND CAME OUT AND ENGAGED KASSAB LAW FIRM.
I GUESS WHERE I'M COMING FROM MY POSITION AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED DURING THOSE YEARS. I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE CAME UP WITH, A, WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN GOING INTO IT THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE AG THAT DOING WORK ON CONTINGENCY WASN'T GOING TO SATISFY THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
AND I ALSO FEEL IT ALSO SHOWS THAT SOMEHOW WE FOUND A LOOPHOLE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S HOW I FEEL.
FROM A PERSONAL MORAL PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A SITUATION THAT ISN'T COMFORTABLE FOR ANYONE, I DON'T THINK. I DO THINK THAT WHAT THEY DID AND I DO AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DID.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY CONCERNS ARE VOICED ON THE RECORD THAT IT COULD CAST A SHADOW ON THE CITY AS WELL AS, I DON'T KNOW.
I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US IN A WAY THAT WE ALREADY KNEW GOING IN OR EVEN KASSAB SHOULD HAVE KNOWN GOING IN THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T NORMALLY BE ACCEPTED BY THE AG OFFICE.
IT ACTUALLY IS, TO BE MORE PRECISE, THE TOBACCO LITIGATION THAT OCCURRED SOME YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.
THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A NEW LAW THAT GOES THROUGH THIS PROCEDURAL PROCESS OF APPROVAL. THAT LAW LIMITS THE RECOVERY, THAT THE MAXIMUM RECOVERY OF YOUR ATTORNEYS TO THIRTY THREE PERCENT OF THE AMOUNT MINUS EXPENSES THAT WERE INCURRED TOWARDS THAT.
IT REQUIRES SPECIAL PUBLIC NOTICES.
AND IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS OF DOING THE PUBLIC NOTICES, WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO CREATE A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THIS COUNCIL AND THE LGCS SINCE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY SIT ON THE LGCS.
AND SO WE PREPARED THE NOTICE FOR THAT PURPOSE SO THAT IT WOULD BE A JOINT MEETING.
ONCE THE MEETINGS WERE ACTUALLY SET, THEY WERE NOT JOINT MEETINGS.
AND SO THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL BELIEVED THAT OUR NOTICE THAT SAID THAT THIS WAS CONDUCTED AT A JOINT MEETING WAS AMBIGUOUS AND COULD CHANGE THE INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT POSITION.
AS WELL AS THEY IDENTIFIED, THEY SAID, WELL, WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY SUFFICIENTLY WHAT CLAIM WE WERE BRINGING AND WHAT WE WANTED TO RECOVER.
AND IT SAID THAT WE WERE BRINGING THE LEGAL MALPRACTICE CLAIM AND WE WANTED TO RECOVER DAMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ACTION AND ANY CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
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WELL, THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.BUT THEY DECIDED WHEN THEY REVIEWED IT THAT THAT WASN'T TO ANSWERING THEM.
RIGHT. THE ALTERNATIVE OF DOING THAT IS YOU CAN FILE AN APPEAL TO THE STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE A CONTESTED CASE OVER WHETHER OR NOT YOUR APPLICATION WAS SUFFICIENT.
BUT IN THE SENSE OF TIMING AND COST AND EFFORT, IT'S EASIER JUST TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT. GET IT DONE, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER 30 OR 60 DAYS TO GET THAT COMPLETED.
AND WHEN WE GET THAT COMPLETED, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD JUST LIKE WE WERE.
BUT THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH IT.
NOT THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT.
THEY MADE THAT RULE. I'M SORRY.
YEAH. SO WE HAVE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THE CITIZENS THAT ENGAGING IN THIS $10 DOLLARS IS ALL THAT WE'RE FINANCIALLY PUTTING UP FOR THIS PERIOD BECAUSE WE HAVE.
THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OUT THERE.
AND IF YOU WANT ME TO PAY THE TEN DOLLARS IT'LL BE ZERO FOR YOU.
OK. GEORGE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND PRIORITIES THAT MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO.
YES, MA'AM. SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
WHAT IS THE $10 DOLLARS AND OTHER VALUABLE CONSIDERATION.
THAT IS CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE FOR PURPOSES OF CREATING WHAT'S CALLED CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT TO A CONTRACT? OK.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MOTIONS OR OTHER ACTION ITEMS? I MOVE TO APPROVE 9.2 AS PRESENTED.
I'LL SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON, APPROVING 9.2 AS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX TO ONE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 10.1, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS,
[10.1. An ordinance of the City of Hutto, Texas, amending the budget for the fiscal year of October 1, 2021 through September 30, 2022, by appropriating and setting aside the necessary funds for additional expenditures, in accordance with existing statutory requirements; finding municipal purposes; providing for a severability clause; and providing for an effective date. (First Reading)]
AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 1ST 2021 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH 2022 BY APPROPRIATING AND SETTING ASIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, FINDING MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.GOOD EVENING, ANGIE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE HAVE A FEW BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO TO MAKE.
ONE, FIRST ONE IS FOR THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER CONTRACT, AND THAT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY USE THE SALARY FUNDS THAT WERE THERE BUDGETED FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
BUT IN THE PAYOUT OF THE CITY MANAGER, WE EXPENDED MOST OF THOSE, SO WE DO NEED TO COME BACK. AND SINCE WE EXPECT THAT THE INTERIM WILL BE HERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT COVERED.
SO. AND THERE'S A VERY SMALL ITEM I TOLD YOU ABOUT LAST WEEK WHERE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
IT IS BASED, THE CHARGES FROM THEM ARE BASED ON OUR POPULATION.
AND SO WE NEED TO UP IT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO COVER THE POPULATION GROWTH WE HAD AND WHAT THEY'RE BILLING US FOR ON THAT ONE.
SO IT'S JUST A SMALL, SMALL ITEM THERE.
AND THEN IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S ACTUALLY NO CHANGE TO THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S STILL ALL WITHIN MY DEPARTMENT IT'S JUST MOVING IT FROM MY DEPARTMENT, MY FINANCE KIND OF ADMIN TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.
MUNICIPAL COURT HAS BEEN GROWING TREMENDOUSLY, LOTS MORE CITATIONS COMING IN, NOT JUST FROM THE CITY BUT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
ALSO, WE DO HANDLE ALL OF THOSE AND THEY ARE JUST DROWNING IN WORK IN THERE.
AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, I HAD AN ACCOUNTING SPECIALIST POSITION THAT I DO NOT NEED AND I'D LIKE TO CONVERT IT TO A COURT CLERK.
AND SO THAT'S ALL I'M DOING IS MOVING THE MONEY JUST IT'S REALLY ABOUT CHANGING THE POSITION IN THE BUDGET.
SO SINCE WE BRING ALL OF THE STAFFING TO YOU GUYS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS TO APPROVE, THIS IS JUST A CHANGE WHAT'S ON THE STAFFING LIST FROM THIS ACCOUNTING SPECIALIST TO A COURT CLERK.
SO THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE BUDGET IN ANY WAY.
SO BUT THEY WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, AND THE STRESS IS BEGINNING TO AFFECT THEIR HEALTH. SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT TOO, AS THEY ARE A SMALL DEPARTMENT.
SO AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME UPDATES FOR SECURE FORMS, AND I KNOW WE BROUGHT SOME A BUDGET AMENDMENT FORWARD, BUT IT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.
THERE WAS SOME EXTRA CHARGES WE JUST RECEIVED RECENTLY WHEN WE FINALLY GOT THOSE FORMS
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UPDATED. SO IF YOU HADN'T SEEN THE FORM THAT YOU CAN FILL OUT A FORM TO HAVE YOUR BANK FOR YOUR UTILITY BILL TO BE DRAFTED FROM YOUR BANK ONLINE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.FEDERAL LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT TO BE A SECURE FORM BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IN PERSONAL INFORMATION LIKE YOUR BANKING AND YOUR UTILITY ACCOUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT OTHER PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE BANKING INFORMATION, YOUR PERSONAL, THAT SOMEBODY ELSE COULD USE. SO THAT HAS TO BE IN A SECURE FORMAT.
AND WE HAD ALL OF THAT WORK DONE AND THEN WE'LL BE USING THAT TO ALSO CREATE OTHER SECURE FORMS. NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, WE'RE HOPING TO CREATE ONE SO THAT CUSTOMERS CAN SIGN UP FOR SERVICE ONLINE AND NOT HAVE TO FILL OUT A PIECE OF PAPER AND DO ALL OF THAT.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, NOW THAT WE HAVE THESE SECURE FORMS, WE PAID FOR THIS SERVICE, THAT IS THE NEXT THING MY UTILITY BILLING MANAGER WILL BE WORKING ON.
AND EVEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A FORM IF YOU WANT TO STOP US DRAFTING YOUR BANK.
AND SO THAT ONE'S AN EASY ONE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON SO THAT YOU CAN COMPLETE THAT ONLINE TO SAY, PLEASE STOP, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN YOUR INFORMATION.
AND THEN ALSO TRYING TO MOVE INTO THAT AGE WHERE YOU CAN DO ALL THAT STUFF ONLINE SO WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR SERVICE.
AND THAT WOULD GREATLY HELP OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO THESE FUNDS WILL BE USEFUL AND THEN WE CAN USE IT AT ALL DIFFERENT OTHER AREAS.
I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, IT WON'T JUST BE UTILITIES, BUT WE COULD USE IT IF WE NEED TO IN COURT OR IN FINANCE OR, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING, PLANNING, WHATEVER.
SO AND THEN YOU'LL SEE TWO AMENDMENTS INTO THE UTILITY FUNDS FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS COMING THOSE CONTRACTS ARE COMING TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
BUT WE DO NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE FUNDS DESIGNATED FOR THOSE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT IT BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES IN THE FUNDING THAT'S THERE FOR THAT.
AND THEN AT THE EDC APPROVED NOT THIS WEEK, BUT AT A PREVIOUS MEETING TO AN ADDITIONAL 50,000 FOR SOME LAND OPTIONS.
AND SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE EDC BOARD.
SO NOW WE JUST NEEDED APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS AWARE OF THE NEED FOR THE COURT CLERK, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT WITH EXISTING FUNDS.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD AND THEN ALSO APPRECIATE GETTING THE UTILITY BILLING SET UP ONLINE AND THE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO COME WITH THAT, THOSE WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DID APPROVE IS SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR ME IN THAT DEPARTMENT DURING THIS BUDGET YEAR.
SO THAT HAS HELPED US GREATLY TO SO MY MANAGER COULD FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS AS WE'VE BEEN GROWING. WHEN YOU'RE ADDING NEW CUSTOMERS A YEAR, THEY ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING A LOT OF WORK IN THERE. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED AND WE WANT TO DO.
BUT YES, COURT IS DEFINITELY AND LIKE I SAY THEY WILL BE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
SO ANGIE, ON THAT NOTE RELATED TO THIS BANK DRAFT THAT CAN OCCUR WITH THE UTILITY BILL.
YES MA'AM. SO THIS WON'T BE A CHARGE TO THE CITIZENS WHERE AS IF THEY WERE USING THEIR CREDIT CARD, IT WAS BEING CHARGED.
YES, MA'AM. OK, SO IT'S NO CHARGE TO DRAFT THEIR ACCOUNT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ENCOURAGE.
BUT THE FORM WAS ONE THEY HAD TO KIND OF PRINT OFF AND DROP OFF OR BRING IN.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SO THAT THEY CAN DO THIS ONLINE AND NOT HAVE TO COME BY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK, YOU KNOW, NOT IN TOWN AND TRYING TO GET HERE DURING 8:00 TO 5:00 OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS.
BUT WE NEEDED IT TO BE A SECURE FORM TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAW.
AND THEN I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WILL MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS? WE POSTED IT. SO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, I DO BELIEVE, POSTED THAT IT IS POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE AND WE DID PUT THAT UP.
SO WE SENT OUT AN EMAIL, I BELIEVE, TO UTILITY CUSTOMERS.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE'VE BEEN WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING THAT BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SET UP, INCLUDING MYSELF ON CREDIT CARD, WHERE IT WOULD CHARGE YOU EVERY MONTH ON THAT AND SO SWITCHED OVER WHEN WE STARTED CHARGING THE FEES.
ANGIE ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THE BILL SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE ON THE BILL THAT KIND OF REFERENCES WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY OR THEY LOOK FOR A WEBSITE THAT IT KIND OF HELPS THEM KNOW THAT THIS CAN NOW BE YOU CAN NOW GO ONLINE AND FILL OUT A FORM AND HAVE LIKE AUTO DRAFT.
WE CAN PUT IT ON THE BILL AND THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON THE ONLINE PAYMENT.
SO WHEN YOU GO, THERE IS A PLACE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO MAKE YOUR PAYMENT ONLINE, BUT IT HAS TO BE BY CREDIT CARD AND WE CAN ALSO ADD THAT INFORMATION.
WE DO HAVE A NOTE THAT YOU'LL BE CHARGED A FEE FOR USING YOUR CARD, BUT WE CAN ADD THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THERE.
WE'LL WORK ON THAT WITH OUR THAT'S THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE PROVIDER THAT DOES ALL OF OUR UTILITY BILLING, SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE.
MOVE TO APPROVE 10.1 AS PRESENTED.
I'LL SECOND. I JUST HAD A QUESTION, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT.
SO THIS THE $600,000 DOLLARS THAT'S BEING ADDED TO THE BUDGET FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
SO WHERE'S THAT COMING FROM? THE FEES WE COLLECT FROM DEVELOPERS? OK. THE DEVELOPER FEES.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, APPROVING 10.1 AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
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HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON.AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 11.1 PRESENTATION OF AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON
[11.1. Presentation of and possible action on Resolution R-2022-016 for the results from City Council Strategic Visioning Session (City Manager Turner)]
RESOLUTION R-2022-016 THE RESULTS FROM CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC VISIONING SESSION.EXPECTATIONS, CORE VALUES AND PILLARS AND GOALS.
MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I FEEL LIKE YOU ALL OUGHT TO ACTUALLY BE PRESENTING THIS. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS STRATEGIC VISIONING PROCESS ON JANUARY THE 28TH AND 29TH OF THIS YEAR.
WE APPRECIATED YOU WORKING WITH DR.
SCOTT WILLINGHAM TO COME UP WITH THESE OUTPUTS, AND I WILL GO OVER THOSE AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE HAVE THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE THAT THEY'RE COMING UP.
GOOD. SO UNDER THE EXPECTATIONS, AND THIS IS FOR COUNCIL INTERACTIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER.
NO ACCUSATIONS / INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE.
RESPECT THE STANCE EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM AND NOT THE PERSON / PERSONAL.
GIVE THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT AND ERASE ASSUMPTIONS.
BE RESPONSIVE AND NOT REACTIVE.
AND MY FAVORITE, DON'T GO TO BED, OR LEAVE THE COUNCIL MEETING ANGRY.
UNDER THE CORE VALUE ITEMS, HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.
COOPERATION, AND COOPERATION, COMPROMISE AND COLLABORATION, MUTUAL RESPECT WITH EQUAL VOICES, SERVANT LEADERS / LEADERSHIP.
CONSISTENCY AND FORWARD THINKING.
AND THEN UNDER THE PILLARS, WHICH ARE YOUR GOALS? MAINTAINING FINANCIAL STABILITY, CREATE THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH, BUT NOT LIMITED TO PARKS, TRAIL SYSTEMS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
BUILD UPON RESPONSIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE GROWTH THROUGH, BUT NOT LIMITED TO INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER TREATMENT, CITY SERVICES, DIVERSE AND TAX BASE AND A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
COLLABORATING FOR OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND EFFICIENCY.
THAT IS NOT LIMITED TO, BUT INCLUDES ENCOURAGES COLLABORATION, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNERSHIPS. THE OTHER ITEM THAT'S A FIFTH ITEM WAS BECOMING A DESIRABLE CITY, AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE THAT AS ONE OF THEIRS, WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK ON THAT.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE FOUR PILLARS THAT WERE AFOREMENTIONED.
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THE PILLARS ARE THE COUNCIL GOALS.
AND THE STAFF HAS ALREADY BEGUN WORKING ON THOSE AND BRINGING TASKS AND OBJECTIVES FORWARD THAT FOR THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION SO THOSE GOALS CAN BE MOVED, THOSE PILLARS CAN BE MOVED FORWARD. WE LOOK FOR THAT TO HAPPEN EITHER IN LATE MARCH OR EARLY APRIL.
ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THE REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY TO STICK WITH WHAT WE'RE AGREEING UPON.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT STAFF AS WELL AS COUNCIL FOR THE FRIDAY AND THE SATURDAY TIME, AND I FOUND IT VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE, USEFUL AND LEARNED A LOT.
AND YOUR STAFF WILL BE CREATIVE WITH THE GOALS AND THE CORE VALUES AND HAVE THOSE PLACE SOMEWHERE IN THE CHAMBERS SO THAT THEY'RE VERY LARGE, VERY ABLE TO SEE TO NOT ONLY SHARE THOSE WITH COUNCIL, BUT WITH THE PUBLIC.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PILLARS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE PLUS YEAR GOALS, SO JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THESE PILLARS ARE A LOT TO BITE OFF AND A LOT TO CHEW AND A LOT OF WORK FOR STAFF AND COUNCIL.
SO THESE ARE MUCH MORE LONG TERM LONGEVITY GOALS.
SO THESE AREN'T THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PROVEN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
THESE ARE KIND OF FIVE PLUS YEAR LONG TERM GOALS.
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SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME WHENEVER I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I WANTED MORE IMMEDIATE GOALS AND KIND OF A YEAR OR TWO, WHAT CAN WE SEE? BUT THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MORE ALL ENCOMPASSING OVERARCHING PILLARS FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT POINT.I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I REALLY ENJOYED THE PROCESS, I THINK IT WAS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE.
IT WAS A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAN WHAT WAS TAKEN IN OUR FIRST RETREAT, AND I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL WITH SO MANY POWERFUL PERSONALITIES IN THE ROOM.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING THESE AND WORKING TOWARDS HUTTO FUTURE.
AND I MOVE TO APPROVE 11.1 AS PRESENTED.
I'LL SECOND. A MOTION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO, APPROVING 11.1 AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM OR MOTION.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. MAYOR SNYDER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON.
AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE
[12.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]
APPOINTMENTS, RE APPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.SO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MET LAST NIGHT, WE INTERVIEWED TWO CANDIDATES, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH BOTH OF THEM FOR NOMINATIONS AS FOLLOWS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
AND THEN, ANTHONY DEFRANCISIS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM TO SERVE ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
ANTHONY, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE LAST NAME? DEFRANCISIS. SO D E F R A N C I S I S.
TO THE ZBA? YES. WAS THAT A MOTION? YES, SIR. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.
APPOINTING NORM DELAY TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND THE HUTTO PRESERVATION COMMISSION. ANTHONY, I APOLOGIZE IF I MESS THIS UP DEFRANCISIS ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. YEP.
ALL RIGHT ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I THOUGHT THEY WERE BOTH GREAT CANDIDATES.
IN FACT, WHAT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IS THEY BOTH MENTIONED THAT THEY SAW THIS FLIER. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT A HOLD OF IT, BUT THEY BOTH APPLIED AS A RESULT OF SEEING IT. SO WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IS WORKING STACY GOOD JOB.
[LAUGHTER] AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSES.
I THINK. ASHLEY LUMPKIN IT'S HER EMAILS, PRETTY MUCH ON ALL THE PAGES TO CONTACT.
SO SHE KEEPS SAYING, I GOT ANOTHER ONE, I GOT ANOTHER ONE, GOT ANOTHER ONE.
SO I THINK WE GOT AT LEAST TWO MORE PEOPLE WE NEED TO INTERVIEW FOR OTHER POSITIONS.
SO THEY'RE COMING IN A LOT MORE THAN THEY USED TO.
ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. EXCUSE ME, MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
THE ADA TASK FORCE IS STILL LOOKING FOR PEOPLE AS WELL TO SERVE ON THAT TASK FORCE.
WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE CITY AND PARKS AND SUCH.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME PEOPLE JOIN THAT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR AVENUES THAT MAYBE I'M NOT EXPLORING AS THE LIAISON, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO LISTEN OR TO REACH OUT TO CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, AND MAYBE THEY JUST NEED THAT LITTLE EXTRA PUSH.
SO IF YOU THINK OF ANYBODY, JUST LET ME KNOW.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION DOTTY ARE COUNCIL MEMBER'S PERMITTED TO BE ON TASK FORCES.
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YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION CREATING THE TASK FORCE TO SEE THAT WOULD ANSWER THAT.THANK YOU. I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE JUST TO BRING UP HERE.
SO THE FULL COUNCIL WAS AWARE.
SO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE HAS BEEN DISCUSSING COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND BROUGHT UP A CONCERN WITH HAVING MULTIPLE PEOPLE SERVE ON MULTIPLE BOARDS, SPECIFICALLY PLANNING AND ZONING AND ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
AND SO WE ASKED OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE US SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
CRISTIAN RESPONDED AND SAID IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE THOSE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
SO WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF P&Z WHO ALSO SERVE ON ZBA.
AND SO WE'LL BE BRINGING FORTH RECOMMENDATIONS AS A NOMINATING COMMITTEE TO START ROLLING THEM OFF AS WE GET NEW PEOPLE COMING IN TO HAVE A COMPLETE SEPARATION THERE.
AND JUST SORRY, JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR, THERE'S NO AG OPINION THAT SAYS THERE IS A PROHIBITION IN DOING THAT.
IT'S JUST THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR FUNCTIONS, IT'S BETTER TO NOT HAVE THE SAME PERSON DO BOTH. ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER, SHOULD EVER BE FROWNED UPON.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE FOR 12.1? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.2 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPEAL FROM A
[12.2. Discussion and possible action on Appeal from a denial of a Special Events Permit to Outlaw Nation in accordance with Section 1.07.090 of the Hutto Code of Ordinances. ]
DENIAL OF A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT TO OUTLAW NATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1.07.090 OF THE HUTTO CODE OF ORDINANCES.SURE, IF YOU'LL GIVE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY, SIR.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION, SO IT APPEARED THAT IT WAS DENIED DUE TO THE APPLICATION BEING INCOMPLETE, SO.
CORRECT. I'VE HAVEN'T EVER SEEN AN APPEAL ABLE TO BE MADE ON SOMETHING THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN APPLIED FOR.
SO ARE WE ABLE TO EVEN HEAR AN APPEAL WHEN THE APPLICATION HASN'T EVEN BEEN PROPERLY SUBMITTED BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO START A PRECEDENCE WHERE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT APPLY PROPERLY TO THE CITY AND THEN REQUEST A COUNCIL TO HEAR AN APPEAL BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT KIND OF CIRCUMVENTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM THAT WE SET UP HERE.
I THINK THAT ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST THE APPEAL.
HE DISAGREES THAT HIS APPLICATION WAS DEEMED INCOMPLETE.
WE WERE I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY DENIALS BEFORE, CERTAINLY NOT VERY MANY DENIALS, BUT WHAT TO DO WITH AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION.
I THINK THAT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IF YOU ALLOW US AS STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WE'LL CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT WE SAY THE APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE AND CAN'T BE CONSIDERED, BUT LET US TAKE A LOOK AT IT [INAUDIBLE] STAFF AND TALK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN WE'LL SEND SOMETHING BACK TO YOU.
I THINK THE ORDINANCE IT WAS KIND OF A SEMANTICS WITH THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE ACCEPTED IT, WHETHER IT'S COMPLETE OR NOT, IF WE ACCEPT IT, WE SUBMIT THE DENIAL.
AND THE ORDINANCE SAYS IF WE DENY IT, THEN HE CAN APPEAL TO US.
SO IT'S MORE JUST A SEMANTICS OF US ACCEPTING THE APPLICATION VERSUS FINDING LIKE A WHOLE APPLICATION VERSUS ACCEPTING IT AND THEN DENYING IT.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST MAYBE A LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT STAFF NEEDS TO COME BACK WITH.
SO I BELIEVE MYSELF AND MR. TURNER, TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE, JUST A LANGUAGE ISSUE IN THE ORDINANCE BUT I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THAT WITH THE PRECEDENT.
THANK YOU, SIR. I REPRESENT OUTLAW NATION CHARITIES.
WE PRODUCE MUSIC AND ARTS FESTIVALS CALLED TEXAS FEST, AND WE ARE BELOVED BY OUR COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE FREE FESTIVALS.
AND IF YOU MAY HAVE YOUR PHONE HANDY, IF YOU MAY TYPE IN TEXAS FEST F E S T AUSTIN .COM PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE FOR A FREE FESTIVAL TO HAVE WINNERS OF THE VOICE AND AMERICAN IDOL, GRAMMY WINNERS ON STAGE AND FRISBEE DOGS AND COWBOY SHOWS AND CLASSIC CARS AND SO MUCH TO SEE AND DO, AND IT'S FREE.
WE DON'T EVEN CHARGE FOR PARKING.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF OUR GREAT, GREAT CORPORATE SPONSORS, THE GREATEST COMPANIES IN AMERICA.
WELL, WE APPLIED THROUGH YOUR WEBSITE TO UTILIZE YOUR AMPHITHEATER THAT WAS BACK AT THE
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END OF OCTOBER.AND WE FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION.
AND WE HAD SOME SPORADIC BACK AND FORTH EMAILS, BUT CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT WOULD IDENTIFY A PROBLEM.
WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH YOUR POLICE AND YOUR STAFF MEMBERS IN EARLY DECEMBER.
WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WERE MINOR SPECIFIC TO TRAFFIC CONTROL, HANDLING PARKING, BUT NOTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE.
WE THEN SENT CONTINUAL EMAILS.
MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, MS. HEATHER ALTMAN AND I ON HOW TO PAY THE RENTAL FEE AND WE CAN NEVER SEEM TO GET A REPLY.
WE WOULD CALL AND SOMEONE WOULD SAY, WELL, THEY'RE ON COVID.
YOU HAVE TO CALL BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
WE KIND OF GOT PUT AROUND IN A CIRCLE.
BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK ANYTHING OF IT.
WE FIGURED, WELL, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, THEY WOULD HAVE LET US KNOW THEY'RE JUST REAL BUSY AND IT'S JUST WE'RE NOT GETTING CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE DATE WHERE THEY'RE PAYING IT ANY ATTENTION RIGHT NOW.
THEN AT THE END OF LAST MONTH, JANUARY, WE HAD TO PAY THE FEE AND WE COULDN'T GET A REPLY ON HOW TO DO IT.
SO MS. HEATHER, WHO LIVES IN HOUSTON, CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE AND SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO COME OUT THERE WITH THE MONEY SO WE CAN GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF.
SHE GOT ABOUT HALFWAY AND SHE GOT A CALL FROM A MS. KRISTI THAT SAID, DON'T BOTHER, DON'T COME.
TWO DAYS LATER, WE RECEIVED A DENIAL.
THREE AND A HALF MONTHS AFTER WE FILED.
AND THAT DENIAL WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE.
IT HAD, I BELIEVE, 11 BULLET POINTS.
WELL, WE WENT THROUGH THE BULLET POINTS AND MS. HEATHER, AND BY THE WAY, Y'ALL HAD A PILE OF DOCUMENTATION YOU KEPT GIVING US MORE AND MORE. AND WE THOUGHT, WOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER FILLED OUT SO MUCH STUFF.
WE GOT THIS DENIAL, AND ALL OF THE ANSWERS WERE ALREADY IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE SUBMITTED. SO I SAID TO MS. HEATHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH STUFF THAT THEY PROBABLY OVERLOOKED IT.
WHY DON'T YOU EDIT IT OUT, PUT IT IN AN EMAIL AND ANSWER EACH BULLET POINT SPECIFICALLY.
AND SHE DID. AND SEVERAL DAYS LATER, WE GOT THE SAME DENIAL AGAIN.
SAME EXACT BULLET POINTS IT WAS LIKE THEY DIDN'T READ ANYTHING THAT WE SUBMITTED.
WE DID HAVE A ZOOM CALL THAT IN FEBRUARY, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I BELIEVE IT DID NOT GO TOO WELL, WE WEREN'T REALLY SURE WHY, WHY ARE THEY BEING SO HATEFUL TO US, MS. HEATHER. NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
I MEAN, THE COUPLE OF CHANGES WE MADE WERE INSIGNIFICANT.
YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE IS GOING TO GO HERE INSTEAD OF HERE.
I MEAN. AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY, AND I COMMEND MR. GORDON. HE'S A GOOD MAN.
HE DOESN'T BELONG IN POLITICS.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
HE'S A MAN OF HONOR AND INTEGRITY.
AND WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY, AND IT WENT VERY POORLY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF HATE AND ANGER.
AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY, BUT WHAT HAVE WE DONE? AND IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH A PERSON ON THEIR STAFF BY THE NAME OF MS. TAYLOR. AND TODAY'S THURSDAY SO I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS ON MONDAY.
AND AT LEAST SHE LAID IT OUT THERE STRAIGHT.
WE WERE, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
SHE SAID WE DO NOT DO THIRD PARTY COMPETING EVENTS.
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AND I SAID, WELL, MA'AM, WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL US THIS THREE AND A HALF MONTHS AGO, WE COULD HAVE GONE TO GEORGETOWN, LEANDER, I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE OPEN ARMS FOR US.DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE BRING INTO THEIR BUSINESS COMMUNITIES? ONCE WE GET THIS OFF THE GROUND, IT'S MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND MS. SONIA, YOUR CHAMBER? SHE'S WONDERFUL.
SHE INTRODUCED US TO MR. GORDON, BUT MS. TAYLOR SAID WE DON'T ENTERTAIN IT.
I SAID, WELL, MA'AM, WHY DIDN'T YOU LET US KNOW THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? SHE SAID, WE TRIED.
YOU WOULD NEVER GET THE MESSAGE.
SO SEE TO YOUR STAFF'S IDEA WAS WE'LL KEEP THROWING MORE PAPERWORK AT THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET DISCOURAGED AND QUIT AND WE WON'T RESPOND TO THEM.
WE WON'T RETURN THEIR CALLS, WE WON'T RETURN THEIR EMAILS.
SURELY THEY'LL GO AWAY? WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW.
WE THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST BUSY.
NOW, I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, SIR, AND I'LL BE AS STRAIGHT UP AS I CAN.
WE DONATE ALL OF OUR PROCEEDS TO OUR FOUR CHARITY PARTNERS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE AND THE WOUNDED WARRIOR PROJECT.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE PROFITS GO.
WHEN WE DO AN EVENT, WE'RE AT ZERO AGAIN.
SO WE ACCEPT OUR CORPORATE SPONSORS MONEY TO DO ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO PUT THE EVENT IN PLACE ABOUT FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND WE ACCEPT SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS FROM OUR ARTISTS AND CRAFTERS, OUR VENDORS WHO ARE ON SITE, ABOUT A HUNDRED OF THEM, THEIR LOCAL ARTISTS, THEY WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE SO THEY CAN SELL THEIR WORK.
WE CHARGE THEM 125 DOLLARS FOR A 12 BY 12 BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE BROKE.
WE KNOW HOW MUCH COVID HAS HURT THEM.
WE'VE SPENT THE MONEY WE DIDN'T KNOW.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REFUND THEM.
IF YOU CANCEL THIS FESTIVAL, THIS LITTLE NONPROFIT WOULD HAVE TO DECLARE BANKRUPTCY.
I'M A VOLUNTEER, SO IS MS. HEATHER. THE ONLY MONIES WE'VE EVER TAKEN WERE OUR TRAVEL EXPENSES.
AND, SIR, YOU GAVE AN INVOCATION, AND WE'RE CHRISTIANS AND WE FEAR THE LORD JESUS.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE HONORABLE TO THAT.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED ALL OF THE PAPERWORK AND MS. HEATHER SPENT MOST OF THE DAY WITH LIEUTENANT BOMER.
TO GET US THROUGH THEM, THERE WERE MINOR THINGS, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM SPELLED OUT, OK? THE PARKING CREW'S GOING TO BE HERE.
ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE STATIONED HERE.
NOTHING YOU WOULD DENY A PERMIT ABOUT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERY I DOTTED, EVERY T CROSSED.
SIR MS. SONIA TOLD HER BUSINESS PEOPLE AT THE CHAMBER ABOUT OUR EVENT AND THEY KNOW ABOUT TEXAS FEST, AND ABOUT TWO DOZEN OF THEM CALLED ME OR EMAILED ME AND SAID, WE'RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE IT.
WHY? BECAUSE PEOPLE COME, THEY STAY IN THE HOTELS THEY EAT, IN THE RESTAURANTS THEY SPEND. THAT'S WHY EVERY COMMUNITY WANTS EVENTS COME AND SPEND MONEY.
AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WILL SEE HUTTO FOR THE FIRST TIME AND LOVE IT, AND THEY'LL WANT TO BECOME TAXPAYERS AND MOVE HERE.
YOU WOULD PUT OUR LITTLE COMPANY INTO BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO PAY THE MONEY BACK NOW.
EVERYTHING WE'VE HAD TO PAY OUT, THAT'S NOT REFUNDABLE.
NONE OF IT IS FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE PORT-A JOHNS TO THE SECURITY.
THE INSURANCE, WE CAN'T GET THAT MONEY BACK.
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IF YOU WILL JUST ALLOW US TO HAVE WE REDUCED IT TO A SINGLE DAY, SATURDAY, MARCH FIVE.IT'S JUST A LITTLE 10 UNTIL 6 EVENT.
WHAT'S THAT EIGHT HOURS? WE HAVE A FULL CLEANUP CREW.
YOU HAVE A TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR SURETY BOND ANYWAY TO MAKE SURE IT'S LEFT SPOTLESS.
WHY NOT HAVE THE EVENT? YOUR CITIZENS WILL LOVE IT, YOUR BUSINESSES WILL LOVE IT.
YOUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY BUILT A BIG AMPHITHEATER.
BUT SIR, YOUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY BUILT THAT SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME TO HUTTO WITH THEIR VISA CARDS OUT AND SPEND MONEY.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO FROM HERE.
ROUND ROCK'S GOT AN AMPHITHEATER THAT KICKS OFF THE FIRST WEEKEND IN APRIL, BEAUTIFUL ONE . LEANDER'S GOT THEIR PARK.
CEDAR PARK'S FINISHING THEIR AMPHITHEATER.
I KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE THE FIRST EVENT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO WASTE THAT BEAUTIFUL FACILITY.
THE REASON YOU BUILT IT WAS TO HAVE EVENTS.
WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR ME, SIR.
WOULD YOU ALL BE GOOD TO YOUR WORD? MAY I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? SURE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE.
THANK YOU. WE'RE ONLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MARCH 5TH.
WHAT ARTISTS DO YOU HAVE LINED UP FOR THIS EVENT? WHAT ARTISTS? ARTISTS? YES.
IF YOU GO TO OUTLAW NATION, I'M SORRY.
I DID LOOK TODAY AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY.
IF YOU GO TO TEXASFESTAUSTIN.COM AND CLICK ON CONCERTS.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S KREE HARRISON, THE WINNER OF AMERICAN IDOL.
AND THEN TWO FINALISTS FROM THE VOICE, JOHNNY HAYES & THE LOVESEATS AND MICHAEL LEE, WHO'S B.B. KING'S GUITAR PLAYER.
IS IT THE WINNER OF ABC'S THE RISING STAR, IF NOT ITS STONE SENATE, WHO'S CURRENTLY ON TOUR WITH THE FOO FIGHTERS.
OK. HAD A HEADLINE ARTICLE IN ROLLING STONE ON THE LAST ALBUM? YEAH, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE ENTERTAINMENT.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT CHRIS STAPLETON, BUT FOR A FREE EVENT.
WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT? YEAH. SO AT THIS TIME, HOW MANY TICKETS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FREE, HOW MANY TICKETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD FOR THIS EVENT? IT'S A GREAT GREAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU. ABOUT ELEVEN HUNDRED.
OK. WE CAN CUT IT OFF AT ANY TIME.
WE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION INITIALLY AT 1500, AND THE POLICE CHIEF SAID WE AIN'T BUYING THAT YOU BETTER CRANK UP THE ATTENDANCE NUMBER OR WE AIN'T APPROVING NOTHING, SO WE R E-SUBMITTED IT AT FOUR THOUSAND.
NOW KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S OVER THE COURSE OF THE ENTIRE DAY.
IF I MAY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU DO NOT INSULT ANY CITY EMPLOYEES FROM THE PODIUM RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU WOULDN'T INSULT CITY EMPLOYEES DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.
OH, NO, NO, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INSULT.
YOU DID SAY THAT YOU FELT LIKE TRAFFIC CONTROL WAS INSIGNIFICANT.
IT WAS AN INSIGNIFICANT DETAIL IN ALL OF THAT.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH YOU DID ON THE AMPHITHEATER IN THE LARGE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HOSTED THERE BEFORE AND HOW MUCH IT IMPACTS TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
MA'AM, I DID NOT MEAN TO IMPLY I THOUGHT TRAFFIC CONTROL WAS INSIGNIFICANT.
JUST A COUPLE OF MINOR MODIFICATIONS WE MADE WERE NOT OF ANY REAL SIGNIFICANCE.
MS. HEATHER MADE THOSE TODAY WITH LIEUTENANT BOMER, BUT NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE HAD CHANGED. OK, SO FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, AND YOU'RE OPERATING A NON PROFIT AND YOU ARE INVESTING MONEY FROM SPONSORS WITHOUT AN APPROVAL TO HOLD THE EVENT, AND IT FEELS TO ME AND I COULD BE WRONG, IS THAT NOW YOU'RE BEGGING US TO SAVE YOU BECAUSE YOU OWE OTHER PEOPLE MONEY? AM I RIGHT IN THAT DIRECTION?
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IT'S BOTH CORRECT, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A PERMIT UNTIL THE WEEK OF THE EVENT, EVER CITIES DON'T ISSUE THEM UNTIL THE WEEK OF THE EVENT.NORMALLY IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON THEIR SECURITY, THEIR POLICE, THEIR EMTS.
AND GETTING THE NUMBER AND GETTING THOSE CONFIRMED.
EVERYTHING WE'VE EVER DONE IS SPENT ON GOOD FAITH.
WE OBVIOUSLY WE DID THIS ON GOOD FAITH, WE JUST ASSUMED WE HAVE NEVER HAD A CITY SAY NO.
SO WHEN IS THE LAST CENTRAL TEXAS CITY THAT SAID YES? WHERE WAS YOUR LAST BIG EVENT? YOU TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY WELCOMES YOU OPEN ARMS. CONROE.
CONROE. IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
THIS IS OUR FIRST ONE FOR 2022.
OK. AND HOW DID THAT GO? OH IT WENT FINE.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO PEARLAND THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, BUT THE WEEKEND THAT CONROE HAPPENED WAS THE SAME WEEKEND AS THE ASTROWORLD TRAGEDY.
AND JUST THE PEARLAND FOLKS, AND THEY'RE WONDERFUL, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, AS ARE THE CONROE FOLKS. THEY SAID, JOSH, THIS JUST ISN'T A GOOD TIME.
SO WE DIDN'T DO PEARLAND IMMEDIATELY AFTER CONROE, LIKE WE WERE SCHEDULED TO BECAUSE THE ASTROWORLD TRAGEDY HAPPENED, THEN.
I'M GOING TO DIVE DEEP AND [INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, BEFORE I PASS YOU OFF TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS QUESTIONS. I MEAN, I HAVE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY AND INSURANCE ISSUES WITH WHAT YOU HAVE ON THIS MAP HERE.
WHY DO YOU NEED A HELICOPTER LANDING? Y'ALL DO.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT LIEUTENANT BOMER NEEDED.
WE DO. IS THAT WE DON'T PUT ANY TENTS OVER IT.
OK. AND OUR INSURANCE IS HERE.
WE PAID IT. IT'S ATTACHED, OK? I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN THE NINTH INNING WITH, YOU KNOW.
WE ARE, MA'AM, BECAUSE WE HAD NO POSSIBLE REASON TO THINK WE HAD A PROBLEM.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF MONTHS.
SURELY IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH US.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE, MR. BROWN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU.
JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET A FULL, COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON BECAUSE WE'RE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME HEARING EVERYTHING.
SO IS THAT OKAY? I FULLY UNDERSTAND.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOT RIGHT NOW? I JUST WANT TO HEAR SOME INFORMATION, IF POSSIBLE, FIRST.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE MET WITH MR. BROWN IN PERSON, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ZOOM CONFERENCES WITH HIM REGARDING HIS APPLICATION. ORIGINALLY, WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WERE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING TO THIS EVENT.
WE LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE AND AS IT WAS ADVERTISED, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE 30,000 PEOPLE SHOWING UP TO THIS EVENT. SO MY CONCERN INITIALLY WAS I TALKED TO LIEUTENANT BOMER WAS, CAN WE GET 30,000 PEOPLE IN THERE? I KNOW WE CAN'T PARK THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THERE.
SO WHAT'S THE PLAN? AND THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO STAFF THIS EVENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS TAKEN CARE OF? THE APPLICATION INITIALLY SAID 1500 PEOPLE WERE COMING IN.
SO WE TRY AND DETERMINE WHAT IS THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN YOUR WEBSITE AND WHAT YOUR APPLICATION SAID, AND THIS WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT, WHATEVER THE COMPANY WAS ON THERE.
MR. BROWN'S EXPLANATION TO US WAS THAT THIS WAS THEIR FAULT, AND HE WASN'T EXPECTING ANY MORE THAN SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO A THOUSAND.
HE RESUBMITTED THE APPLICATION AND THEN CAME BACK WITH A NUMBER OF 4,000.
SO I SAY, OK, WHAT CHANGED AS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT? AND THIS IS JUST A MINOR PART.
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER INCONSISTENCIES IN HIS APPLICATION THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED ON YOUR APPLICATION.
THESE THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED ON THE PLANS FOR EMS FOR MEDICAL, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, OFF SITE PARKING IN CASE THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE THERE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND JUST AS EARLY AS TODAY, I FOUND OUT HE'S HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER PERSON NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS, INDICATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE 14,000 PEOPLE AT THE EVENT.
SO I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ACCURATE INFORMATION FOR WHATEVER
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REASON, AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO PLAN FOR THE EVENT.SO WE TOLD HIM WE WERE GOING TO HAVE 12 OFFICERS, TWO SERGEANTS AND 10 OFFICERS AT THE EVENT. HE ASKED WHAT THAT WOULD COST AND WE TOLD HIM WHICH IS GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON THE EVENT. IT'S THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
THE DATES HAVE CHANGED ON HOW LONG WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, BUT INITIALLY IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR OUR SERVICES TO COME OUT.
AND I'LL LET, YOU ADD A LITTLE MORE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE OF IT IS JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY COMING TO THIS EVENT.
JUST YESTERDAY IN OUR MEETING, HE TOLD US 375 TICKETS WERE SOLD.
AND WE JUST HEARD A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND ON THIS.
SO AGAIN, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE INCONSISTENCIES IN HIS STATEMENTS AND IN HIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHIEF AND LIEUTENANT BOMER AND ALL YOUR STAFF THAT HAVE HELPED US ON THIS FOR THE COUPLE OF MONTHS AND ALSO KRISTI AND TAYLOR AND THE OTHER STAFF THAT HAVE PUT IN COUNTLESS HOURS ON THIS.
AS CHIEF MENTIONED THERE'S LOTS OF INCONSISTENCIES.
THE ATTENDANCE IS ONE OF THOSE.
THERE'S ALSO INCONSISTENCIES AND A LOT OF, AS OF LATE TODAY, NEW PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THOSE PLANS WE HAVE FOLLOWED UP ON AND RESEARCHED AND THE SECURITY COMPANY THAT HE HAS PUT IN HERE THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING SECURITY OFFICERS WE HAVE VERIFIED THAT THERE IS NO CONTRACT IN PLACE AND THAT THEY WILL NOT BE PROVIDING SECURITY.
AS WELL AS IT LISTS OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT WILL BE PROVIDING THE FIRE AND EMERGENCY, AND I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATION ON THAT.
SO AS MR. BROWN ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE MOST RECENT INCIDENT AT ASTROWORLD, THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR CITIZENS IS THE FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO US, AND THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR STAFF AND WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY IN MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN WHAT'S BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THOSE THINGS ALONE, NOT TO MENTION SOME OF THE OTHER INCONSISTENCIES AND INSURANCE.
INCOMPLETE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE TABC PERMIT HAS STILL NOT BEEN SUBMITTED.
I THINK THOSE ARE. THOSE ARE THE REALLY THE CRITICAL THINGS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO US THAT OUR CITY, OUR REPUTATION IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE ARE HOSTING EVENTS THAT ARE OF QUALITY.
AND THAT WE WANT THE BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR BUSINESSES HERE, AND WE HAVE JUST FOUND TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES IN THAT.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO OTHER EVENT PRODUCERS THAT HAVE PRODUCED EVENTS IN OUR AMPHITHEATER, AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NOT GIVEN US POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS.
ONE OF THESE, AS WE ALL KNOW, KOKE FEST, WHO THEY WORK MONTH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT TO HAVE OUR VERY FIRST KICKOFF MEETING FOR THEIR EVENT IN AUGUST THEY GO THROUGH THIS PERMIT PROCESS THOROUGHLY WITH US AND MEET ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS.
AND WE VALUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND THEY ADHERE TO THIS ENTIRE PERMIT PROCESS.
AND SO THEIR FEEDBACK IS VALUABLE TO US.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS.
IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING, WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
STACY WHEN KOKE FEST COMES, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU GUYS NORMALLY GIVE THE PERMIT? LIKE HOW FAR IN ADVANCE? WE'RE USUALLY THROUGH THE PERMIT PART OF IT.
WE'LL START THAT PROCESS IN ANOTHER WEEK.
WE HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING AND THAT TAKES A COUPLE MONTHS.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES UNLESS THEY'RE CHANGING OR ADDING, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR HAVE THEIR PERMIT WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT WE HAVE MEETINGS ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE EVENT WITH THEM.
VERY THOROUGH PROCESS WITH THEM.
SO IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WE USUALLY DON'T GRANT THOSE THE WEEK BEFORE AN EVENT.
NOT AT ALL. BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WELL AHEAD OF TIME WHAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR SAFETY, SECURITY. WHO'S WHEN LOAD IN IS WHEN IS LOAD OUT CLEANING ALL OF THOSE THINGS? I WAS NOT ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST SUBMITTED TODAY AS FAR AS CLEAN UP AND TRASH PROVIDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC
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SCHEDULE. WE DO KOKE FEST THEY RENT THE PARK A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT IS ALL SCHEDULED OUT. AND IT WAS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THAT AREA AND THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE SECURITY AND THAT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT AS WELL.SO IT'S SAFE TO SAY MOST SPECIAL PERMITS ARE GIVEN TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME, THREE MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. WELL IN ADVANCE, ESPECIALLY ON AN EVENT LIKE THIS.
AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ATTENDANCE IS GOING TO BE, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED FROM, YOU KNOW, FOURTEEN HUNDRED TO FOUR THOUSAND TO ON THE WEBSITES, THIRTY THOUSAND.
WE HAVE I'VE TAKEN LOTS OF SCREENSHOTS AND LOOK AT VARIOUS WEBSITES AND THERE'S AGAIN, SOME OF THE ARTISTS THAT ARE LISTED THAT WOULD BE ENTERTAINING ARE ALSO IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE ON OUR CONCERT DATE, THEY ARE PERFORMING AT ANOTHER LOCATION.
SO THERE'S JUST MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.
DID Y'ALL CONTACT ANY OF THE FORMER CITIES THAT HAVE ALLEGEDLY HOSTED.
WE HAVE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO CONROE AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A CALL BACK.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A CALL FROM ANOTHER CITY THAT HAS CONCERNS ABOUT AN EVENT THAT'S POSSIBLY BEING REQUESTED IN THEIR CITY.
OK. BUT NO CITIES THAT HAVE HAD AN EVENT THAT YOU TALKED TO? NO. OK. AND YOU SAID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD, RIGHT, SO YOU'VE GONE TO LIKE SOME OF THESE PERFORMING ARTISTS WEBSITES AND THEY AND ACCORDING TO THEIR ARTIST WEBSITE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PERFORMING ELSEWHERE ON THIS DATE.
YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR. I'M SORRY.
YES. I DO HAVE SOME SCREENSHOTS.
JOHNNY HAYES AND THE LOVESEATS, IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT THEY ARE PERFORMING IN LEANDER, TEXAS, ON THAT DAY.
ISAAC, DID YOU HAVE? YEAH. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN MY TIME IN WORKING WITH THE STAFF HERE, THE STAFF HAS REALLY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FOR BOTH OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS PEOPLE POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE COMING TO THE EVENT.
I DO WANT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE APPROPRIATE EVENTS AND FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES IN THE CITY OF HUTTO TO KNOW THAT WE WELCOME THEM AND THAT WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF HAVING THEM AND WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
I HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE IN INTERACTING WITH MR. BROWN AND HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH HIS PERCEPTION OF OUR DISCUSSION VERSUS MY PERCEPTION. I APPRECIATE MR. BROWN IS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND VERY COLORFUL.
I THINK I TOLD A COUNCIL MEMBER WE JUST WANT TO GET THE INFORMATION IN.
WE WANT IT TO BE ACCURATE SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PIECE DONE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE DONE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.
I WOULD ASK MR. BROWN IN TERMS OF HIS CHARACTERIZATION COLORISM'S IT'S OK TO DO THAT TO ME, BUT PLEASE DON'T DO THAT TO THE STAFF IN THE FUTURE.
MAY I ASK YOU WHAT THAT MEANS? JUST KNOW AREN'T ACCURATE, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE PARTICULAR STAFF MEMBER THAT HE MENTIONED, BUT I AM AWARE AND SOME THINGS THAT HE'S DIRECTED TO OUR STAFF IN AN EMAIL AFTER WE MET AND I WASN'T COPIED ON THE EMAIL THAT DID NOT AT ALL CAPTURE WHAT WAS SAID AND WHAT WAS STATED AND WHAT WAS DONE, AND IT'S OK, I GOT BROAD SHOULDERS, BUT I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE NOT DOING THAT TO STAFF, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GO OVER YOUR POINT BY POINT AND TIT FOR TAT.
BUT WE JUST WE'RE HERE TO SERVE AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
THERE'S NO SHAME IN THAT FOR US AT ALL.
SO WE'RE HERE TO SERVE, BUT WE'RE ALSO HERE TO HELP PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS? I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH.
CHIEF, I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS, AND NUMBER ONE TO ME IS THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AND ANYBODY VISITING OUR CITY.
AND FROM EVERYTHING I'VE READ AND HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS NOT
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SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT HUTTO IN ANY WAY OR PROTECT ANYBODY VISITING THIS TYPE OF VENUE OR EVENT.COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
THANK YOU, GUYS, THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
IF SOMEONE UP HERE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE SPEAKING, WE'D APPRECIATE [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU. I'M HEARING A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES FROM WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BY BOTH THE CITY AND OUTLAW NATION AND 15 DAYS BEFORE AN EVENT IT'S VERY CONCERNING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY INCONSISTENCIES AT THE MOMENT.
I DO. I HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT THIS EVENT OVER THE PAST FOUR WEEKS AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY WERE EITHER GOING TO BE SETTING UP AS VENDORS OR THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TICKETS OR THEY WERE GOING TO BE GOING TO THIS.
AND SO ALSO HEARING THE FEEDBACK OF WHAT THEY'RE HEARING AND THEM SHOWING ME CORRESPONDENCE WITH OUTLAW NATION.
I'M HEARING LIKE THREE DIFFERENT STORIES.
AND SO THAT'S VERY CONCERNING AND FROM SEEING WHAT OUR CITY HAS PRODUCED IN CONCERTS AT BRUSHY CREEK IN THE PAST AND WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE DO ON THE PERMITTING SIDE FROM DAY ONE TO BEYOND THE EXECUTION OF THE EVENT.
SO FROM THAT CONSIDERATION, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, JUST FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING AND WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION.
THAT'S JUST WHERE I AM SITTING RIGHT NOW, AND I'M SORRY THAT WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS. AND YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
ME TO GO, OR YOU WANT TO GO NEXT.
EITHER WAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I APPRECIATE STAFF DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.
I APPRECIATE MR. BROWN, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN WRONGED IN SOME MANNER, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSES OUT OF A CITY AND THEY'RE NOT RETURNING EMAILS, THEY'RE NOT RETURNING PHONE CALLS THAT SOMEHOW YOU THINK IT'LL JUST WORK IT OUT SO YOU GO SPEND MONEY AND JUST GO ON LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE LAST MINUTE.
IF YOU, IN FACT, HAVE DONE THIS REGULARLY I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT MANY CITIES OUT THERE DON'T GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOU UNTIL A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE AND YOU RUSH IT ALL TOGETHER AND YOU GET A PERMIT THE DAY BEFORE.
SO I'M NOT PERSONALLY, I'M NOT BUYING THAT.
I DEAL WITH CITIES A LOT AND IT TAKES MONTHS TO GET SIMPLE PERMITS DONE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CONCEPT WORKS.
THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR ANYTHING, BUT SOMEHOW YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GIVE TO ALL THESE CHARITIES.
THE CITY IS NOT A CHARITY, AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE WORKING OVERTIME AND NOT GETTING PAID BY YOU.
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ACCUSED OF THE STAFF, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU TALK ABOUT GOOD PEOPLE AND IT'S A GOOD TALK, BUT HUTTO HAS A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE FLUSHING OUT CERTAIN TYPE CONCEPTS, AND SO I THINK A LOT OF US ARE SEEING THIS FOR WHAT IT IS PRETTY EASILY.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO GET FOOLED UP HERE.
SO I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO AN EVENT JUST GIVING YOU FREE BUSINESS ADVICE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, DON'T START TAKING MONEY AND SPENDING MONEY.
GET A PERMIT FIRST AND THEN DON'T TRY TO COME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE AND YOU KNOW, TELL US ALL THE BAD THINGS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES IN HUTTO AND ONE OF THEM IS NOT RUSHING AND WE TAKE OUR TIME ON THESE THINGS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS, BUT WE WANT TO GET OUT EARLY.
AND I'LL SAVE THE FUN FOR ANOTHER NIGHT.
THANKS SO, JOSH IT'S BEEN GOOD TO KNOW YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE INTRODUCED TO ME THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE YOU MY EMAIL AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME CONTACT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY HOPE WHEN I SAW THE FIRST DENIAL LETTER WITH THOSE 12 ITEMS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST RECEIVE MORE CLARITY OVER THE WEEKS RATHER THAN HAVING IT LESS CLEAR. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHERE I'M AT NOW, I'M LESS CLEAR TODAY THAN I WAS ON FEBRUARY 1ST WHEN WE FIRST HAD OUR INTERACTION.
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YOU KNOW, I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUST HAVE THIS PROCESS WHERE, OK, THERE'S 12 ITEMS THAT ARE NOT OUTLINED.LET'S JUST GET THOSE CLEARED OUT AND LET'S CHECK THOSE OFF AND GET THEM DONE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, STAFF STILL HAS REVIEWED THESE AND THEY'RE STILL NOT ONLY ARE A LOT OF THINGS STILL OPEN, BUT NOW THERE'S EVEN MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID THAT ARE CLOSED, LIKE WITH THE ESD.
BUT THE ESD SAYS THEY'VE NOT BEEN CONTACTED, SO THAT'S WORRISOME TO ME.
I GUESS I JUST WHERE I'M AT, IS I'M LESS CLEAR TODAY THAN I WAS AT THE START.
AND SO I JUST DON'T SEE HOW I COULD MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH WHERE THE CITY STAFF'S AT TOO SO. HONESTLY, I'M A LITTLE JUST TAKEN BACK, I GUESS, BY THE WHOLE SITUATION A LITTLE FLABBERGASTED, TO BE HONEST.
AND ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE TO USE RELIGION AND PLIGHT OF BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS REALLY UPSETTING TO ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, A LOT OF UNTRUTHS BEING TOLD, WE HAVE THIS PERSON, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THIS PERSON.
SO FOR ME, SIR, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR CHANCE.
SIR. OK. OK.THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT GOES AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT OUT.
SO TO HAVE TWO DENIALS AND NOT BE ADDRESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND HONESTLY, WHEN I WENT ON THE WEBSITE AND I SAW THE EVENT UP THERE AND I THOUGHT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT AND I'M SORRY, THE PRESENTATION WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS BELIEVABLE TO ME.
THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
NORMALLY I'D JUST DO NO ACTION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW AND WE NEED TO PROTECT OTHER CITIES OUT THERE THAT KNOW.
AND SO THERE CAN BE A RECORD, POTENTIALLY THAT THIS CITY DENIED THEIR ABILITY.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPEAL FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT.
I'LL SECOND IT YEAH. OUTLAW NATION.
COUNCIL, COULD YOU ADD TO YOUR MOTION OF FINDING THAT YOU'RE UPHOLDING THE CITY MANAGER'S DETERMINATION THAT THE APPLICATION IS NOT COMPLETE? I'M GOOD WITH THAT OR WHO SECOND IT? YOU. ALL RIGHT, UPHOLDING THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION OR FINDING ON THE INCOMPLETENESS.
IF I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT BEING ON YOUTUBE, I WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT OF STUFF AND BROUGHT HIM BACK UP HERE, BUT I WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE.
MOTION BY MAYOR SNYDER, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ADD IT HERE OR NOT, BUT JUST FOR THAT LANGUAGE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE VERSUS COMPLETE APPLICATION VERSUS DENIAL, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT IF STAFF COULD MAYBE HOPEFULLY GET THAT CLEARED UP.
MOTION IS TO DENY THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT TO THE APPEAL AND ALSO TO HAVE A FINDING OF UPHOLDING THE CITY MANAGER'S.
DETERMINATION. DETERMINATION OF INCOMPLETENESS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, JUST THANK YOU CHIEF FOR NAVIGATING THROUGH THAT AND CITY MANAGER.
YOU'RE WELCOME. STACY'S RESEARCH SKILLS.
AND STACY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO.
AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 12.3 JANUARY FINANCIAL REPORT.
[12.3. January Financial Report (Angie Rios)]
DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THIS PAST AGENDA ITEM, SO [LAUGHTER].[01:30:03]
[INAUDIBLE] I LIKE THE IDEA WHEN I DRAG IT OUT FOR AN HOUR, BUT.WELL I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUN.
SINCE YOU JUST SAW ME LAST WEEK, I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF ON THIS, NOT A LOT'S CHANGED SINCE LAST WEEK.
FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY YOU SEE, REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND WERE 2.7 MILLION, AND OF THAT, 1.6 OF THAT WAS AD VALOREM TAXES PEOPLE HITTING THAT, TRYING TO GET IN BEFORE THAT DUE DATE OF JANUARY 31.
SO I HAD A CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON THE COLOR CODING ON THIS.
IS THE COLOR CODING BY QUARTER? BY QUARTER. OK. BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THE NEXT SLIDE, IT WAS THE SAME COLORS I THOUGHT, IS IT REFERENCING? OK.
OK, GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING IT WAS.
NO IT'S YES, IT'S FOR THE QUARTER.
SO THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE JUST HAVE THE ONE MONTH, BUT IT'LL BUILD ON THAT.
SO AND THEN EXPENDITURES FOR THE MONTH WERE A MILLION DOLLARS, WITH A LOT OF STAFF OUT WITH COVID AND THINGS, WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH IN A COLD MONTH, NOT AS MUCH ACTIVITY FOR THE MONTH, BUT I SUSPECT WE'LL SEE THAT PICK UP.
SO. I KNOW THIS WAS OF INTEREST, I KNEW IT WOULD BE.
SO WE GOT THESE SALES TAX NUMBERS FOR DECEMBER LAST WEEK, AND WHEN THEY CAME IN, WE WENT, WHOA, WHAT? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRENDING UP FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.
AND SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOCK TO SEE THIS NUMBER TO BE LOWER THAN LAST YEARS.
AND THAT IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT IS WHAT WE RECEIVED AS A CITY.
BUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, SO THIS DATA IS FROM THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER PUBLIC ACCOUNTS WEBSITE AND THEY PUBLISH.
YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND FIND ANY ENTITY THAT RECEIVES SALES TAX.
THEY PUT THIS OUT THERE EACH AND EVERY MONTH.
AND SO THE MONEY THIS IS FOR FEBRUARY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE RECEIVED THE MONEY.
BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT THE PRIOR PERIOD COLLECTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE THE COLLECTIONS FOR DECEMBER, WERE ACTUALLY A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A FANTASTIC CHRISTMAS MONTH.
HOWEVER, THE PRIOR PERIOD COLLECTION NEGATIVE NUMBER OF THREE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND IT WAS TAKEN BACK BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE CAUSED US TO HAVE THIS NUMBER THAT WAS BELOW PRIOR YEAR.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY TOOK BACK.
I CALLED THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WHOA, WHAT'S GOING ON? THAT WAS A BIG NUMBER I WANTED TO KNOW.
THEY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE SALES TAXPAYER INFORMATION IS PRIVATE, THEY COULDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THE SALES TAXPAYER.
WHAT THEY COULD TELL ME WAS THAT ONE SALES TAXPAYER FILED AMENDED RETURNS FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD OF 2021.
AND WHEN THEY FILED THOSE RETURNS, THEY DIDN'T OWE AS MUCH TO THE CITY OF HUTTO AS THEY HAD ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY FILED THEM.
HMM. MY QUESTION WAS THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO.
IS SOMEBODY REVIEWING THAT AND LOOKING INTO IT? THEY CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IT COULD TRIGGER THEM TO AUDIT OR LOOK AT THOSE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY. BUT THEY CAN'T TELL ME BECAUSE ALL THAT INFORMATION IS PRIVATE.
BUT I DID FIND THAT ODD THAT THEY ORIGINALLY PAID ALL THE SALES TAX AND THEN DECIDED TO AMEND IT, AND THEY DIDN'T OWE THAT TO US.
SO THIS MONTH, THIS KIND OF AN ANOMALY BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A REALLY GOOD MONTH, A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THIS ONE TAXPAYER GOT ALL HIS MONEY BACK FROM US.
WOW. BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS MONTH.
IT IS VERY STRANGE. IT'S GOING TO LOOK ODD ON THAT, BUT I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED THERE BECAUSE IT ISN'T NECESSARILY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING TO THE SALES TAX. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHAT YOU POSTED, MAYOR, YOU ARE CORRECT.
THIS IS BECAUSE OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS AND BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF IT WE DO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY FOR SALES TAX TO TRY TO ACCOUNT FOR ODD THINGS AND FOR THE VOLATILITY OF THAT. SO LUCKILY, WE HAVE BUDGETED CONSERVATIVELY, SO THIS WON'T HURT US IN ANY WAY.
AND BECAUSE THE PRIOR TWO MONTHS HAVE ALREADY BEEN VERY GOOD, THIS KIND OF BALANCES OUT AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE MONTHS CONTINUE.
BUT HOPEFULLY, IF THIS IS ANY INDICATION, WHAT DECEMBER LOOK LIKE, THEY'LL CONTINUE THIS WAY. WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH THE ECONOMY.
BUT I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN HUTTO.
AND THAT HIT COVERED A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
SIX MONTH PERIOD IS WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT THEY FILED SIX MONTHS OF AMENDED SALES TAX RETURNS. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THAT BEFORE? I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE THAT LARGE.
LIKE, I SAID THEY CAN'T TELL ME ANY INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE, BUT, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED, WOULD THAT TRIGGER AN AUDIT OR A REVIEW? AND OF COURSE, THE COMPTROLLER WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S NOT THAT BIG, AND I SAID, WELL, IT MAY NOT BE THAT BIG TO YOU.
MAYBE IT'S NOT THAT BIG TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORING TOWNS AND OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IN MY TOWN, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. I TOLD THEM, AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D LOOK INTO IT.
SO THEY CAN'T TELL ME FOR SURE, BUT I HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FILE AMENDED AND GET MONEY BACK. I'VE NOT SEEN ONE THIS LARGE, BUT I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE NOT ON A
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DOWNWARD TREND. SO, AND THEN THE UTILITY FUND WAS WE ALL KNOW THE CITY IS GROWING, AND SO THIS FUND IS GROWING STRONG.$5 MILLION TO DATE OF REVENUE, SO WE'RE ALREADY OVER 40 PERCENT OF THE REVENUE BUDGETED THERE, AND THE EXPENSES ARE TRACKING JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT, BUT WE'RE DOING VERY WELL IN THAT DEPARTMENT. WE'VE BOUGHT A LARGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING OUR OPERATIONS EVEN THROUGH SOME OF THE WINTER PREPAREDNESS WHERE WE DID SOME EXTRA WORK AND THAT FUND IS DOING WELL.
I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL YOU ONE OTHER THING.
SO YOU GUYS, WE IMPLEMENTED THE CREDIT CARD FEES BACK IN OCTOBER.
WE STARTED THOSE KIND OF, I WANT TO SAY, THE 18TH AROUND THAT TIME IN OCTOBER.
SO OUR CREDIT CARD FEES IN THE UTILITY FUND SO FAR YEAR-TO-DATE HAVE BEEN ABOUT EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
OUR CREDIT CARD REVENUE IN THE UTILITY FUND IS RIGHT UNDER 60, SO IT IS COVERING A LOT OF THAT. I BELIEVE I TOLD YOU THAT IT WON'T COVER ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE USUALLY CHARGED ABOUT A THREE PERCENT FEE ON AVERAGE, BUT WE'RE CHARGING TWO TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
NOW THE GENERAL FUND IS NOT COVERING AS MUCH.
SO WE'VE PAID A LITTLE ABOUT $110000 IN FEES THROUGH JANUARY AND ONLY RECOVERED FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE, AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CREDIT CARD FEES ARE COMING FROM THE DEVELOPERS FILING THEIR PERMITS, AND WHEN THEY FILE IN LARGE CHUNKS, THEY'LL PAY SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF FEES.
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CREDIT CARD CHARGES BECAUSE OF THE LARGE TRANSACTION BATCHES, SO WE'RE NOT JUST PAYING THREE PERCENT, THEY'LL ACTUALLY TACK ON AN EXTRA SURCHARGE ON THOSE. SO THAT'S WHY THE GENERAL FUND IS NOT COVERING IT QUITE AS MUCH, BUT IT IS PICKING UP SOME OF IT. SO IT'S RIGHT UNDER UNDER 50 PERCENT ON THAT.
I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW THEN THAT IS HELPING TO COVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR, AND DEVELOPERS, WE CAN ADD, WE COULD COME BACK INTO THE FEE ORDINANCE.
WE'D HAVE TO ADD IT IN THE FEE ORDINANCE, BUT ON A TRANSACTION OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT, WE COULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL--WHATEVER THE COMPANY CHARGES US IS WHAT SPEAKERS] APPROPRIATELY PASSED ON.
NOT NECESSARILY US JUST FOOTING THE BILL.
BUT PARTICULARLY ON THOSE, AND I LOOKED INTO IT, I MEAN, IN ONE MONTH, I KNOW WE HAD ALMOST $900000 IN PERMITS PAID BY CREDIT CARD AND OUR CREDIT CARD CHARGE FOR THAT MONTH WAS ALMOST $45000.
SO ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT PAYMENT? A CHECK, YES, AND THEY A LOT OF THEM DO, BUT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER CHOSE TO PAY IT BY CREDIT CARD, WHICH THEY CAN.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING PROHIBITING THEM SO WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT THE FEE ORDINANCE AND BRING THAT BACK AND HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL ADDED IN, BUT THAT WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT FOR TRANSACTIONS OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL FEE IN.
WELL, I WILL BE THE SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER FOR AN AGENDA ITEM TO BRING THAT BACK TO PASS THAT ON TO THE DEVELOPER AS A FEE.
JUST SAY THAT THE FEE WILL MATCH THE EXPENSES? SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK IF THOSE CHANGE OR IF THERE'S SOME--WE CAN, BUT I WILL SAY, I'D PROBABLY WANT TO KEEP IT OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT IF YOU'RE OK WITH THAT SO THAT WE DO HIT THOSE BIGGER ONES BECAUSE I THINK THAT, LIKE I SAY IN THE UTILITY FUND WHERE WE'VE BEEN CHARGED, YOU KNOW, $80000 AND WE'VE COLLECTED NEARLY 60, I THINK IT'S PAYING FOR QUITE A BIT OF.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PASS ON 100 PERCENT TO THE CUSTOMERS THERE, BUT MAYBE ON THOSE LARGER DEVELOPERS.
SO, I'LL LOOK INTO THE CREDIT CARD CHARGES AND SEE WHERE THAT CUTOFF IS WHERE WE START GETTING HIT THAT EXTRA.
THERE SHOULD BE, AT A MINIMUM, A PASS THROUGH, RIGHT.
WE SHOULD JUST WHATEVER WE GET CHARGED, THAT'S WHAT WE CHARGE.
AND SO I CAN SAY ON ALL TRANSACTIONS OVER X DOLLAR AMOUNT WE'LL PASS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE CHARGE WILL BE THIS, AND THAT SHOULD COVER IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PAYING UTILITY BILLS OR COURT FINES.
IT'LL BE OVER SEVERAL THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WHO.
I'D ALMOST LOOK FOR THE FEE TO BE LIKE A THREE OR EVEN A FOUR PERCENT FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT FEES, NO DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE YOU GET THREE PERCENT BACK ON MOST CARDS WITH REWARDS, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE $100K AND WE'RE CHARGING TWO PERCENT, THEN--I SUSPECT THERE'S SOME BENEFIT TO THEM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT LIKE SAY, IN THE MONTH OF OF DECEMBER, THERE WAS ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS CHARGED IN PERMITS.
YEAH, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK.
SO JUST ONE MORE QUESTION RELATED TO THAT, AND WITH YOU BEING NEW, ANGIE, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, BUT HISTORICALLY THERE HAVE BEEN BENCHMARK CITIES THAT THE CITY WOULD KIND OF CONTACT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING RELATED TO--ISAAC, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT NOW?
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REACH OUT TO THE SURROUNDING CITIES AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND ASK THEM.THAT'S REALLY EASY AND WE HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM.
THEY WE TRADE INFORMATION ALL THE TIME, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT GOOD CITIES DO.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT AND I CAN SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT FEES.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS ON WHAT WE TAKE? IS IT JUST VISA, MASTERCARD OR DO WE TAKE BECAUSE I KNOW AMERICAN EXPRESS AND DISCOVER TYPICALLY HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAT THEY CHARGE US.
IT DOES HAVE A HIGHER FEE, AND WE DO TAKE AMERICAN EXPRESS.
DO WE TAKE DISCOVER? WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHARGES ON THE AMERICAN EXPRESS.
I JUST [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE TWO IN PARTICULAR, HAVE A HIGHER--RIGHT, AND SOME CITIES AND BUSINESSES HAVE DONE AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS A PARTICULARLY HIGHER FEE ON THE AMERICAN EXPRESS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHARGES ON THAT.
ALL RIGHT. I PLAN ON BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU IN MARCH SO WE CAN GET THAT CHANGED.
SOUNDS GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO WANT TO JUST VERIFY SOMETHING.
OH, WHERE DID I WRITE IT DOWN? SO JUST TO CONFIRM, ON OUR SALES TAX NUMBERS, WHAT YOU SAID LAST WEEK WAS THAT THEY'RE REALLY DUE TO INFLATION, THE RESIDENTIAL INCREASE THAT WE'VE HAD AND SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH AN AVERAGE OF NINE COMMERCIAL PERMITS ANNUALLY, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING PAY. SO YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE BUSINESS, WHAT THEY DO, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT EACH BUSINESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM SEEING, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, WE DO ASK THOSE COMPANIES WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S SOME OF WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO GIVE BACK.
SO A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES DO KNOW KIND OF HAVE A GUESSTIMATE OF WHAT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE A FRANCHISED COMPANY OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT'S LARGER, BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME AND THEN SOME OF IT IS ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CONSTRUCTION, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE ORDERING THEIR SUPPLIES FROM, THAT CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE, BUT I MEAN, YOU GUYS KNOW IF YOU'RE PAYING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, MAYOR, IF YOU'RE PAYING $70 FOR A SHEET OF PLYWOOD VERSUS 20 FROM A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE SALES TAX COMING IN ON THAT.
SO, THAT'S GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SO MANY THINGS HAVE GONE UP. I MEAN, WE ALL CAN BUY THE SAME AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, FILL OUR GROCERY BASKET WITH THE SAME THINGS AND PAY MORE MONEY FOR THAT.
SO THAT IS PROBABLY A HUGE CONTRIBUTOR, PLUS THE INCREDIBLE GROWTH WE ARE SEEING HERE IN TOWN. ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE FINANCES? NO, SIR. OK, THANK YOU.
THANKS, ANGIE. THAT'S IT FOR YOU TONIGHT, HUH? NOPE, I HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
OH, DANG, TRYING TO GET YOU OUT EARLY.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 12.4 QUARTERLY ENGINEERING UPDATE.
[12.4. Quarterly Engineering Update (Ashley Lumpkin and Wade Benton)]
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON SOME THINGS RELATED TO ENGINEERING AND I STOLE THE GRAPHIC FROM ASHLEY FROM LAST WEEK.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, IT'S NO SURPRISE AND ANGIE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE GROWTH AND HUTTO AND IN THE AREA AND JUST THE SHARP INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PERMITS FOR A GIVEN YEAR, AND SO THIS WAS A GRAPHIC THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST MEETING, AND I THINK IT'S TELLING IN TERMS OF JUST THE INCREASE IN ACTIVITY ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, AND THAT'S CREATED SOME CHALLENGES FOR STAFF IN TERMS OF MEETING THAT DEMAND AND KEEPING UP WITH THAT.
SO JUST YEAR-TO-DATE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS.
SO EVERY TIME A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN THAT TRIGGERS A NUMBER OF PERMITS. ASHLEY TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT WHAT I'VE TRIED TO REFLECT HERE ARE THE TYPES OF REVIEWS AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF REVIEWS AND NUMBERS OF REVIEWS THAT ENGINEERING STAFF OR PART OF OR LEADING THE EFFORT, AND SO EVERYTHING FROM UTILITY EXTENSION REQUESTS TO SITE PLAN PERMITS, SUBDIVISION PLANS, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES WHEN IT GETS TO FINAL PLAT EARLY ON IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGE, THOSE ARE ALL PERMITT ACTIVITIES AND THAT ENGAGE NOT ONLY PLANNING STAFF BUT ALSO ENGINEERING STAFF AS WELL, AND SO AS WE STARTED LOOKING AND THESE ARE JUST
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THE ONES TO DATE, SO IF I DO THE MATH, THAT'S OVER 70 THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT STAGES OF THEIR PERMITTING. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL 70 CAME IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS, AND SO WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE AND SO THAT'S CREATED SOME STAFFING CHALLENGES THAT WE WANT TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT.TONIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO ADDRESS THOSE MOVING FORWARD, AND SO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STAFFING.
SO IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, THE TABLE UP THERE IS SHOWING KIND OF WHERE WE WERE BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN A FEW MONTHS BACK INTO THE YEAR AND THEN AS OF WELL NOW IN FEBRUARY.
SO YOU ALL HAD APPROVED SOME POSITIONS IN THE BUDGET WHEN YOU APPROVED THE BUDGET.
WE HIRED A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, PADMA'S HERE AND SHE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB, AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME STAFF TURNOVER AS WELL, AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY DOWN FOUR POSITIONS, AND SO THAT'S CREATED SOME CHALLENGES, JUST DEALING WITH THE VOLUME OF REVIEWS, AND SO BACK IN MID-OCTOBER, WE STARTED LEANING ON SOME OF THE THIRD PARTY OR ON-CALL ENGINEERING FIRMS TO HELP US GET THROUGH SOME OF THIS INCREASE IN DEMAND, AND SO WE'VE UTILIZED SEVERAL OF THE FIRMS THAT WERE ON THE LIST THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR, AND THEY HAVE BEEN A BIG HELP IN TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE TIME FRAMES THAT ARE GIVEN ON THESE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND ADDRESS THOSE THINGS MOVING FORWARD, AND SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE KIND OF INTERNALLY COLLECTIVELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WITH ASHLEY AND PADMA MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TRIED TO LOOK AT, OK, WHAT CAN WE DO TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AS A GROUP AND REALLY TRY TO FOCUS IN ON WHAT ARE OUR CORE AREAS TO FOCUS ON AND REALLY KIND OF CARVING OUT THE ENGINEERING ASPECT AND STAFF TO REALLY SUPPORT BOTH OF THESE KEY DEPARTMENTS? AND SO WITH THAT, THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS IS FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE INSPECTIONS WORK WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THEY'RE STILL INVOLVED IN ENGINEERING ASPECTS ON A VARIETY OF THINGS, BUT THEIR CORE FOCUS IS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OBVIOUSLY WITH PERMITTING AND LAND-USE PLANNING IS, YOU KNOW, THE CORE OR [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU'VE SEEN, AND THEN THE ENGINEERING SUPPORT GROUP WOULD PRIMARILY FOCUS ON SUPPORTING BOTH DEPARTMENTS, AS I MENTIONED, AND ALSO OVERSEEING ANY ENGINEERING SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING OR HAVING THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY.
SO DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS ARE ONE ASPECT.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ENGINEERS WORKING ON A VARIETY OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SO MANAGING THOSE OVERSEEING THOSE AND THEN REALLY TRYING TO LOOK BEYOND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY AND TRY TO ENGAGE IN SOME LONG TERM PLANNING, UPDATING OUR DESIGN STANDARDS AND TRYING TO GET SOME BEST PRACTICES IN PLACE, AND SO WITH THAT, THE THREE GROUPS GOT TOGETHER AND REALLY TRY TO AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THIS LIST, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS REALLY TRY TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS AND IDENTIFY WHAT AREAS EACH PARTY WOULD TAKE A LEAD ON AND WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OUTSIDE SUPPORT, AND SO IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS SLIDE, BUT ON THE TOP, THOSE BLUE AREAS PRIMARILY RELATED TO SUBDIVISION AND PERMIT ACTIVITIES, WE'RE GETTING SOME HELP FROM SOME OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRMS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO MOVING FORWARD.
THE ITEMS ON THE LOWER PART OF THAT LIST ARE REALLY MORE KIND OF INTERNAL STAFF, [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WORKING ALONG WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND GROUPS, AND SO COLLECTIVELY, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO FOCUS IN ON WHAT ARE OUR CORE NEEDS AND RESOURCES AND TRYING TO BRING THOSE TO BEAR MOVING FORWARD.
ANY QUESTIONS ON--I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO FLOAT AN IDEA OUT.
I'VE TALKED TO WARREN ABOUT IT.
I MENTIONED IT TO ISAAC AND I KNOW FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO FIND A DIAMOND RIGHT NOW IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND TEXAS IN GENERAL, BECAUSE THEY CAN NAME THEIR PRICE, BUT I'VE SEEN THIS AT WORK TO WHERE WE'LL HAVE WORK DONE IN ANOTHER STATE REVIEWED LOCALLY BY A LICENSED PERSON WHO THEN STAMPS THE PLANTS, AND SO IT SPEEDS UP A PROCESS TO WHERE WE'RE DOING WORK.
AND SO THE IDEA I'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES IS THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER STATES BECAUSE I
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KNOW THEIR POPULATIONS ARE SHRINKING, LIKE IN THE RUST BELT OR, SAY, MICHIGAN OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE LICENSED PEOPLE THAT IS THERE NOT A WAY TO HIRE THEM BECAUSE ENGINEERS ARE BEING HIRED ALL OVER IN THE TECH INDUSTRY, ALL OVER THE WORLD TO DO WORK IN AUSTIN, BUT IS THERE NOT A WAY TO DO THE SAME THING AND HAVE AN ENGINEER IN ANOTHER STATE? REVIEW PLANS, REVIEW A SITE PLAN, COMMENT ON IT, DO ALL THAT WORK, TRAIN IT THROUGH BECAUSE AT WORK WE SEE AUSTIN'S NOT MOST OF THE STAFF IS NOT, YOU CAN'T MEET THESE PEOPLE IN TRAVIS COUNTY IN PERSON.IT'S ALL DONE ONLINE, AND SO IS THERE NOT A WAY TO DO THAT TO WHERE WE CAN TAKE WHERE THERE'S A SEVERE SHORTAGE OF A CERTAIN TYPE HERE AND GO TO ANOTHER STATE, LIKE I SAID, AND HIRE SOMEBODY, TRAIN THEM.
WE CAN PAY THEM A GOOD SALARY, MAYBE EVEN BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THEM OFF TEXAS WAGES. DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF IT WHERE WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS DOES EVERYBODY HAVE TO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THIS AREA TO WORK FOR A HUTTO OR CAN THEY NOT--THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING I'M THINKING THAT CAN REVIEW A SITE PLAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE IN TEXAS TO REVIEW A SITE PLAN AND COMMENT ON IT, RIGHT? OR PLATS OR I JUST THROW IT OUT TO YOU AS AN IDEA.
I JUST SEE THIS PROBLEM NOT BEING RESOLVED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
I SEE IT BEING LIKE UNTIL CENTRAL TEXAS SLOWS DOWN.
WE'VE GOT TO GET INNOVATIVE AND THINK OF SOME OTHER WAY TO GET YOU GUYS SOME HELP.
YEAH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE CITY POLICY ON WORKING REMOTE AND TELECOMMUTING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF STATE OR WHATEVER. REALITY IS WITH THE ENGINEERING SERVICES WE ARE UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE FIRMS, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE SITTING IN DALLAS AND OTHER PLACES AND SUPPORTING THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE.
SO YOU KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT IS A TOUGH MARKET, AND SO I KNOW THE CITY STILL HAS OPEN [INAUDIBLE] FOR STAFF POSITIONS, BUT GIVEN THE LIMITED STAFF WE HAVE, I MEAN, THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD AND OPEN TO IDEAS.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE YOU BACK FOR ITEM 12.5 UPDATE ON THE UTILITIES MASTER PLAN.
[12.5. Update on Utilities Master Plan (Wade Benton)]
SO TAGGING ON TO THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD, ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS AND A LOT OF THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON AND INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS A NEED TO RESPOND AND BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT ACTIVITY, AND SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE LIST, I PUT UP ON THE SLIDE HERE, KIND OF OUR OVERALL PLANNING FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED EARLIER IS WE WANT TO START LOOKING OUT BEYOND WHAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US TODAY, AND SO THE LAST TWO UPDATES TO THE UTILITY PLANS FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER WERE DONE IN 2018 AND 2016.SO FOR MOST MUNICIPALITIES, THAT TIME FRAME FOR UPDATING OR REASSESSING THOSE PLANS IS USUALLY FIVE TO SIX YEARS, SOMETIMES LESS, SOMETIMES MORE.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE AREA, THE GROWTH.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE A VERY RURAL, YOU KNOW, LOW GROWTH AREA AND YOU MIGHT GET BY WITH SOMETHING CLOSER TO 10 YEARS.
HERE IN HUTTO, WE HAVE A HIGH GROWTH RATE, MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED NORMAL, AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING MORE FREQUENTLY AT THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE RATE INCREASES, TRYING TO PLAN THOSE OUT, BUT WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH, LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLAN FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, ASSESS THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, THE REQUEST WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND GENERATE THOSE LISTED NEEDS, AND THERE ARE OUR NEEDS FOR THE SYSTEM, PLAN THOSE OUT AND BRING THOSE FORWARD TO YOU, SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IN TERMS OF ANY CAPITAL RELATED TO THOSE PLANS? AND SO I JUST PUT A NOTE UP HERE RELATED TO THESE REQUESTS WE'VE RECEIVE SINCE JUST OCTOBER, ABOUT 18 OF THEM TOTALING ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE ANYWAY, OVER EIGHTY THREE HUNDRED LUES, THAT'S EQUIVALENT OF EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED HOMES THAT ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL SERVICES. SO JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS, NOT ONLY THE ONES THAT WE'VE RECEIVE IN HOUSE, BUT THAT ARE IN THE WORKS, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT LEVEL TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH UPDATING BOTH THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN AND COME BEFORE YOU THE NEXT
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MEETING WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON CONTRACTS TO DO JUST THAT.ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? THANK YOU. ARE THESE NUMBERS ON TOP OF THE NUMBERS THAT ASHELY PRESENTED TO US LAST WEEK, SO ROUGHLY FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PLUS THE OTHER, I THINK IT WAS ROUGHLY FIVE THOUSAND OR SO THAT ACTUALLY HAD SHOWED US.
THESE ARE RESULTING FROM THOSE, PART OF THAT.
SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THAT NUMBER.
[CHUCKLING] JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
ALL RIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.6 UPDATE ON INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
[12.6. Update on infrastructure projects. (Mayor Snyder)]
SO I WANTED TO MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT A FEW PROJECTS AND GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON A FEW OF THOSE, I'M GOING TO START WITH THE 1660 PROJECTS, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT THREE INTERSECTIONS ALONG 1660 THAT ARE UNDERWAY.FOR THE INTERSECTION OF LIMMER LOOP AND 1660, THE DESIGN CONSULTANT [INAUDIBLE] SUBMITTED THEIR UPDATED PLANS TO TXDOT BACK IN EARLY JANUARY.
WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS FROM TXDOT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, AND WE'VE GOT A DESIGN REVIEW MEETING SET UP WITH THE AREA OFFICE ON THE 28TH.
SO WORK IS CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE DESIGN.
WE'RE STILL ON TRACK TO COMPLETE THAT DESIGN LATE THIS SPRING.
ON THE RIGHT OF WAY FRONT, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOLKS HAVE BEEN BUSY EXTENDING THOSE OFFERS.
THEY'VE CONTACTED ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON ALL THE AFFECTED PARCELS FOR ALL THREE PROJECTS AND EXTENDED THREE OFFERS TO DATE.
SOME OF THOSE PARCELS THERE WERE SOME UPDATES ON THEIR APPRAISALS THAT WERE NEEDED EITHER DUE TO A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP SINCE THE LAST APPRAISAL OR IN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES, A PARCEL HAD SPLIT OWNERSHIP, AND SO THOSE ARE BEING UPDATED.
ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THOSE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, AND SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE THOSE, THEN THOSE OFFERS WILL START GOING OUT TO THOSE OTHER FOLKS.
CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO MOVE FORWARD THIS SUMMER.
THE LAST ITEM ON THERE I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION OR TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT OR THE AFA.
I THINK WHEN I TALKED TO YOU LAST TIME RELATED TO THIS, WE WERE ANTICIPATING POSSIBLY THREE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS FOR THE PROJECTS.
THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE AGREEMENT.
THERE'RE INDIVIDUAL SCHEDULES, IF YOU WILL, WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT FOR EACH PROJECT.
SO THAT GIVES THE CITY FLEXIBILITY RELATED TO THOSE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOT A HARD DEADLINE.
IF YOU DON'T FINISH PROJECT ONE, YOU CAN'T GO TO PROJECT TWO, BUT THAT WAS A REQUEST TO TXDOT THAT WE COULD CONSOLIDATE THOSE.
WE ARE AWAITING THE FINAL DRAFT TO COME BACK.
CITY LEGAL HAD PROVIDED THEIR INPUT AS WELL AS STAFF, AND SO WE HOPE TO RECEIVE THAT DOCUMENT BY EARLY MARCH.
ONCE WE DO, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL, ALONG WITH A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THAT, AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT IN HAND BACK TO TXDOT, THEN THAT WILL TRIGGER SOME ACTIVITY ON THEIR END THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS THAT HASN'T FULLY STARTED YET.
THEY'VE BEEN COOPERATIVE IN TERMS OF REVIEWING OUR DOCUMENTS, BUT WE'LL NEED TO GET SOME FURTHER CLEARANCE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOLKS AND WE NEED THAT AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO DO IT. SO THE NEXT PROJECT, SO ANY QUESTIONS ON LIMMER BEFORE I MOVE ON? ON THE INTERSECTION AT WHAT WE'RE CALLING 1660 NORTH, WHICH IS BASICALLY AT 79 AND JIM CAGE AGAIN, THE PLANS WERE UPDATED AND SUBMITTED TO TXDOT BACK IN JANUARY WE DID GET COMMENTS BACK TWO WEEKS AGO.
WE HAVE A COMMENT REVIEW MEETING ON THE 28TH AND HAVE [INAUDIBLE] IN CONTACT WITH THE ONE PROPERTY OWNER ON THIS ONE IN TERMS OF RIGHT OF WAY.
WE HAVE A UP AGREEMENT ON THIS PROJECT.
SO THE OTHER PROJECT, WHAT WE'RE CALLING 1660 [INAUDIBLE] HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS, I
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THINK, EXECUTED BACK IN 2019.IT COVERED A VARIETY OF THINGS.
IT DID NOT EXPLICITLY COVER THIS INTERSECTION, BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND AS PART OF THE FINAL DESIGN IS THAT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLES ARE PARTIALLY WITHIN THE UP RIGHT OF WAY, AND SO THE SIGNALS BEING REWORKED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, AND SO THE NEW POLES WILL BE BASICALLY AND UP RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL.
IN ESSENCE, THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT IS UP RIGHT OF WAY LIMITS, IN ESSENCE.
SO, WE'VE HAD TO ENTER IN A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR THAT JUST TO GET THEM TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THAT WORK. SO WE'VE GOT A AGAIN THE AFA, WHICH IS A JOINT ONE WITH THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS, AND THIS CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME IS IS TARGETING FOR FALL OF THIS YEAR.
SO ARE WE DOING BOTH ENDS OF 1660 FALL OF '22? WELL, THIS ONE AND--THIS ONE, AND LIMMER.
SO THEY WILL BE GOING ON SIMULTANEOUSLY, ROUGHLY? YES, IN THE SAME GENERAL TIME FRAME.
SO HOW WILL THAT WORK? THAT'S GOING TO BE ROUGH.
JUST IN TERMS OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF TRAFFIC FLOW AND IF WE'RE TAKING UP BOTH INTERSECTIONS, I THINK AS WE GET CLOSER THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO DIG INTO A LITTLE TIGHTER.
RIGHT NOW, HONESTLY, WE'RE PUSHING NEED TO PUSH IT BACK, WE CAN ALWAYS PUSH IT BACK.
OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO PUSH IT BACK.
DO WE HAVE OPTIONS LIKE MAYBE CONSTRUCTION OVERNIGHT WHERE IT'S NOT AS BIG A TRAFFIC IMPACT? COULD BE, WE'RE NOT DOING ON THIS PROJECT.
THERE IS SOME WORK ON 79, AND SO AT THE INTERSECTION, AND SO SOME OF THAT TXDOT WILL LIKELY REQUIRE SOME OF THAT WORK TO BE DONE AT NIGHT.
SO I THINK WITH BOTH PROJECTS GIVEN THE DISTANCE THEY ARE IN PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER.
I THINK WITH THE TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED, THEY COULD FUNCTION AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD WANT TO COORDINATE MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER INTERSECTION WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SOUTH INTERSECTION, THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN UPDATED. IF YOU RECALL, PART OF THE CHANGE WAS TO REWORK THAT [INAUDIBLE] INTERSECTION OVER THE RAILROAD TO TRY TO SMOOTH THAT OUT, AS WELL AS SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON 79 ITSELF AND UPDATE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THERE IS A MEETING--KIND OF JUMPED IN AT THE BOTTOM--WE HAVE A MEETING WITH UP REPRESENTATIVES ON THE 28TH TO COME OUT TO THE SITE, WALK THROUGH IT.
SO IT'LL BE KIND OF A JOINT CITY TXDOT-UP MEETING AND BEEN WORKING REAL HARD TO GET THAT MEETING TO TRY TO SPUR THAT ALONG SO WE CAN MOVE THAT.
THE HNTB HAS BEEN WORKING OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH TXDOT TO FINALIZE THE GRANT DOCUMENT WITH FRA, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE'RE WAITING TO GET ANY COMMENTS BACK FROM THEM AND/OR A FINAL VERSION OF THAT [INAUDIBLE] GRANT. SO SINCE THOSE FUNDS GO THROUGH TXDOT THE AGREEMENT IS WITH TXDOT AND FRA, BUT HNTB FOLKS HAVE BEEN HELPING DRAFT THAT AND KIND OF PUSH THAT ALONG.
SO APPRECIATE THEIR HELP ON THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE FINAL DESIGN COMPLETED SOONER THAN 18 MONTHS FROM NOW? I WOULD SAY THAT ACTUAL DESIGN WORK.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT DATE IS WE HAVE FINAL PERMITS, APPROVALS.
WE'RE READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION, AND REALLY THE DRIVER ON THAT IS THE RAILROAD AND THE ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING TIME FRAME THAT REQUIRES, AND REALLY, IT'S THE RAILROAD THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE SCHEDULE.
I CATCH GRIEF FOR, I DON'T OBVIOUSLY DO THE DESIGN WORK, BUT I DO SEE THIS AND I GO HAND, THERE'S LIKE NO WAY TO SPEED THIS UP BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF AGENCIES, TXDOT, THE RAILROAD. SOME OF THIS STUFF INVOLVES THE COUNTY AND OF COURSE, THE CITY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THIS ONE.
I FEEL THE FRUSTRATION I REALLY DO, AND IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT THAT DATE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, TXDOT HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND AS WELL AS AT LEAST TO DATE, THE RAILROAD HAS BEEN HAS WORKED WITH US.
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SO IT'S TO THEIR BENEFIT QUITE HONESTLY ON THIS CROSSING TO UPGRADE THAT CROSSING AND TXDOT WANTS IT AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON 79.SO UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SLOW MOVING MACHINE, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH AS FAST AS WE CAN, BUT WHERE WE SIT TODAY, THAT'S OUR ASSESSMENT ON TIME FRAMES.
BUT, TO YOUR BENEFIT, WE LOST LIKE 9 TO 12 MONTHS BECAUSE OF INEFFICIENT ACTIVITY ON BOTH THE CITYSIDE AND THE FORMER PROJECT MANAGER WE HAD ON THIS.
SO LIKE YOU ALL ARE MOVING AT THE PACE WE NEED TO, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE OVERSIGHT ON THE PROJECT AND SO WE LOST A LOT OF TIME, AND THIS IS JUST WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW THAT WE'RE BACK ON TRACK. OK.
YES. SO HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, YET? I KNOW THAT THEIR CURRENT PARKING IS RIGHT OF WAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY MAYBE REALIZE THAT. HAVE WE STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE THEY CAN START PLANNING NOW BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND PERMIT SOME WAY TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS WITHOUT BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE A RETAINING WALL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOWN THERE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, RIGHT? WELL, NOT A RETAINING WALL, BUT THERE'S SOME CURBS AND SOME OTHER THINGS, AND THERE PARKING TO SOME EXTENT, ADJACENT TO THE INTERSECTION WILL BE AFFECTED.
WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM YET, AND ONLY BECAUSE WE WERE WANTING TO HAVE THIS MEETING WITH UP, AND WITH TXDOT ON THE REVIEW TO REALLY UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
THIS IS THE FIRST REVIEW THAT TXDOT HAS HAD ON THIS DESIGN, SO SOME OF THE GEOMETRY CHANGED SLIGHTLY, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THAT STANDS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST NOT TO KEEP GOING BACK IF THE LINE CHANGES OR, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS MAY CHANGE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT HERE IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS TO VISIT WITH THEM AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN ON WHAT THAT WILL BE BEFORE WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO WE CAN TALK REAL THINGS.
MY LAST QUESTION THIS INTERSECTION, I SEEM TO REMEMBER THERE BEING A TALK, I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS INTERSECTION THAT WITH THE UPGRADES, WHEN IT'S ALL DONE THAT IT TURNS THE CITY INTO A QUIET ZONE.
IS THAT STILL PART OF THIS TO WHERE WHEN THE TRAINS COME THROUGH, THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORNS BECAUSE WHATEVER THE UPGRADE IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS.
THAT'S NOT EXPLICITLY PART OF THIS PROJECT.
NOW THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN WOULD, WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS BECAUSE THAT INVOLVES A CORRIDOR LENGTH ALONG THE RAILROAD THAT ALL THE CROSSINGS HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS.
SO, I THINK LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD OR DOWN THE TRACT, SO TO SPEAK, I THINK THAT COULD BE IN A POSSIBILITY.
THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED HERE WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT WITH THE SIZING AND LOCATION OF THE GATES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD FACILITATE AT LEAST THIS CROSSING BEING ELIGIBLE TO BE PART OF THAT CORRIDOR.
SO IT'S A SERIES OF CROSSINGS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE AND THEN GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE UP.
SO THIS PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD NOT TRIGGER THAT, BUT IT COULD BE PART OF THAT LARGER SOLUTION.
SO TO THAT POINT, THE 79 NORTH INTERSECTION, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY TOUCHING THE RAILROAD CROSSING. WE'RE ONLY DOING THE SIGNAL.
SO THAT'S ONE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND IMPROVE TO MAKE A CORRIDOR THROUGH THE CITY.
CORRECT. OK, AND THEN THE PERMITTING FOR ALL OF THAT IS LIKE 15 MONTHS TO GET IT ALL APPROVED FROM--THERE'S A PROCESS, BUT YEAH, AND TO YOUR POINT, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT STRETCH THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE IN PLACE.
YEAH, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AT LEAST DOWN TO 132 AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING STUFF THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S COVERED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? LET'S SEE. SO LIVE OAK, I WANT TO GET YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THIS PROJECT.
SO ALL THE WATER MAIN PIPE HAS BEEN INSTALLED, SO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PARK, THE CONTRACTOR IS RIGHT NOW COMING BACK IN AND INSTALLING SERVICE CONNECTIONS AND SOME OTHER TIE INS WITH SOME OF THE ADJACENT LINES, AND SO ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, THEN THEY'LL DO ALL THE PRESSURE, TESTING AND DISINFECTION AND THEN BE READY TO KIND OF OPEN THAT UP FOR SERVICE. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT ALL THAT WORK, TESTING AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FINALIZED IN APRIL.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S KIND OF BEEN OUT THERE FOR A WHILE HAS TO DO WITH THE GAS LINE, AND SO WE DID GET SOME CONFIRMATION FROM ATMOS HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT REPLACING A PORTION OF THEIR GAS LINE, AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO DO IS REPLACE THE SECTION BASICALLY WEST OF 1660 FROM BASICALLY JUST KIND OF EAST OF CITY HALL HERE,
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ALMOST TO 1660, AND SO WE'VE REQUESTED A DETAILED SCHEDULE ON THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM THAT, BUT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO DO THAT, AND SO THAT'S A POSITIVE, AT LEAST IN THAT AREA.
THE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS ON THE ON THE PAVEMENT PORTION.
SO THE PROJECT, AS IT WAS BID, WAS BID FOR A THREE INCH MILL AND OVERLAY, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING TO GRIND OFF THE TOP THREE INCHES OF ASPHALT AND THEN PUT DOWN NEW ASPHALT. THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FOUND AS THEY'VE BEEN PROGRESSING WITH THE WATER INSTALLATION, IS THAT THIS IS GENERAL BUT WEST OF 1660, THE DEPTH OF THE ASPHALT VARIES FROM AN INCH AND A HALF TO TWO INCHES.
SO OBVIOUSLY NOT THREE INCHES THAT ARE THERE.
NOW DOWN NEAR THE PARK, IT'S MORE LIKE FOUR.
SO, WE'VE GONE OUT AND BEGAN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THOSE AREAS AND COMING BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.
SO WE'VE DONE SOME FIELD WORK AND HOPEFULLY VERY SOON WE'LL HAVE A PLAN MOVING FORWARD ON HOW TO APPROACH THAT. SO OBVIOUSLY, THE THREE INCHES WON'T WORK WHEN YOU HAVE AN INCH AND A HALF TWO INCHES OF HOT MIX. SO THERE IS A SOLUTION THERE, BUT WE NEED TO QUANTIFY THAT A LITTLE BETTER TO TRY TO HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF ANY COST IMPLICATIONS AND THEN ENGAGE THE CONTRACTOR AND COME UP WITH A POTENTIAL SOLUTION.
WE DON'T PLAN ON STARTING TO PAVE AT LEAST CERTAINLY WEST ON 1660 UNTIL WE GET THE GAS LINES SQUARED AWAY.
WE KNOW WHEN THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR, SO WE CAN TIME THAT WORK ON THAT SECTION TO FOLLOW THE GAS LINE INSTALLATION.
SO LET'S SAY THIS, THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO FUND THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS COMPLETELY AND WANTED TO COME BACK HERE AND TURN THIS INTO A CONCRETE ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS IN TEXAS.
I'VE SEEN OTHER STATES WHERE SOMETIMES THEY'VE USED AN OLD ASPHALT ROAD TO BE THE BASE FOR THEN A CONCRETE ROAD THEY PUT ON TOP.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THAT WE'RE ABLE--ASSUMING THE MONEY WORKS OUT--TO DO LIKE IN THIS AREA? IS THAT ALLOWED OR? THERE'S NO PROHIBITION IT.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN REHAB STREETS AND RECYCLE MATERIALS.
YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, SINCE THE PAVEMENT DEPTH IS [INAUDIBLE], I THINK PART OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AND WE'VE STARTED DOING IS LOOK AT, OK, WHERE ARE THERE AREAS WHERE MAYBE THE BASE YOU'VE GOT SOME BASE FAILURES OR SOME QUESTIONABLE AREAS AND YOU'VE GOT SOME CRACKING THAT'S JUST GOING TO LEAD TO POTENTIAL FAILURE.
THE SOILS OUT HERE IN HUTTO ARE VERY HIGH, SHRINK SWELL CAPACITY, YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW.
AND SO THAT REALLY DRIVES THE PAVEMENT DESIGN, AND SO I THINK THE ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR THE GROUP OF STREETS HERE INCLUDED BASICALLY A FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETS.
SO, IF AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN OR PAVEMENT MIX IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. CONCRETE STREETS VERSUS ASPHALT STREETS, REALLY, THAT GETS DOWN TO DOLLARS AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DESIGN THAT PAVEMENT LIFE FOR AND THE LOADING FOR IT.
WE ALSO HAVE THAT ISSUE ON THOSE ROADS THAT THE ROADS ACTUALLY SET HIGHER THAN THE LAND THAT HOUSES ARE ON.
SO THAT CREATES A FLOODING ISSUE, WHICH WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH WITH DRAINAGE, BUT I THINK LONG TERM, THE PLAN WAS TO LOWER THE STREETS SO THAT THEY WERE MORE LEVEL WITH THE LAND CORRECT, DEBBIE? AM I RIGHT IN THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE OUR STREETS ARE WAY HIGHER THAN WHERE OUR LAWN IS.
NOT WAY HIGHER, BUT THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE, TOO, IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD ON TOP OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, IT'S LIFTING IT UP MORE.
SO, IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S UNDERWAY, I THINK PART OF WHAT OUR JOB IS JUST TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHAT WHICH WAY TO MOVE FORWARD IF WE TRY TO REHAB WHAT'S THERE WITHOUT A FULL BLOWN RECONSTRUCTION, THAT'S ONE OPTION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ADDRESS AT LEAST PORTION OF THAT AREA WHERE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE EXISTING PAVEMENT DEPTHS AND WE NEED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH ON THAT.
SO ATMOS HAS NO INTEREST IN TOUCHING ANYTHING EAST OF 1660 UNTIL WE DO A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, IS THAT ACCURATE? AT THIS POINT, THEY ARE, I GUESS GENERALLY, YES, THE AGE OF THAT PIPE IS SUCH THAT THEY
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ARE NOT WILLING TO MOVE THAT ON THEIR OWN COST.OK. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, I HEARD FROM A RESIDENT, THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN FIND THOSE LINES ON THAT SIDE OF 1660.
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I MEAN, SOME OF THAT STUFF HAPPENS CONFIRM NOR DENY. [CHUCKLING] YEAH.
SO ATMOS IS MOVING THE LINES THAT ONLY WEST OF 1660? THEY'RE REPLACING THE PORTION OF WEST OF 1660 BECAUSE OF AGE.
IT'S AN OLDER LINE, SO THEY'VE COMMITTED TO PAVING.
OKAY, AND THEN EAST OF 1660, THEY'RE NOT GOING.
I MEAN, I KNOW THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS THEY'LL DO IT AS PART OF OUR FULL BLOWN RECONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY'RE STILL SAYING IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE FULL BLOWN RECONSTRUCTION, WE'LL DO IT IF YOU DO THAT, BUT IF YOU DON'T, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THE LINES AT ALL? CORRECT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED MONEY, LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.
GOT IT. WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT THAT MEANS.
THIS ISN'T A PART OF THIS UPDATE IN PARTICULAR, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS WE HAD APPROVED.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS ROUGHLY $100000 FOR LIKE A GPS SYSTEM, LIKE A TRUCK SYSTEM THAT WOULD ACTUALLY RATE THE ROADS AS FAR AS PRECEDENTS AND WHAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED.
IT WOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE WAY OF REALLY PRIORITIZING WHICH ROADS NEEDED MOST ATTENTION FIRST. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT OR I KNOW THAT WE ALLOCATED MONEY FOR IT, BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY I KNOW THAT WE ADDED THAT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING JUST TO KIND OF PUT A TACK IN AND DEFINITELY START CIRCLING BACK TO THAT. SO WE CAN WHEN THESE PROJECTS AND HOPEFULLY EXTRA MONIES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OBJECTIVELY PICK WHICH ROADS ARE IN FACT THE WORST AND WHICH ONES DO NEED THOSE APPROPRIATIONS.
BECAUSE THEN ALL OF US KIND OF LIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WE HAVE KIND OF OUR THINGS THAT WE DRIVE EVERY DAY AND SO WE NOTICE EVERY DAY.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY BENEFICIAL THING TO KIND OF GET GET STARTED SOON.
OKAY, NO, I'M AWARE OF THAT FOR SURE.
YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON LIVE OAK? OH, I'M SORRY, I HAD A QUESTION.
ARE WE THE ONES, IS IT THE CITY OR IS IT ATOMSTHAT HAVE BEEN CUTTING THE TREES FOR THIS PROJECT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING LATELY? ONCOR, RIGHT? IT'S THE [INAUDIBLE].
JUST CURIOUS. I WANT TO GIVE YOU UPDATE ON THE LEGEND OF HUTTO DRAINAGE PROJECT THERE AT HERRERA TRAIL.
SO WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD OR FINISHED AN INITIAL CONCEPTUAL DESIGN EFFORT TO LOOK AT THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN THERE IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN WAS THE AREA THAT WAS KIND OF THE AREA OF CONCERN IN TERMS OF STABILIZING THAT AREA, IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE CAPACITY, AND THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED AN INITIAL DESIGN.
WE MET WITH ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS LAST WEEK AND WALKED THROUGH SOME CONCEPTS, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH FURTHER DEVELOPING THAT AND COMING UP WITH SOME FINAL PLANS.
WHAT WE ARE INCLUDING IN THE DESIGN, IN ADDITION TO THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW IS NOT ONLY CHANNEL STABILIZATION IN THAT AREA, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT, SO IT DOESN'T CONTINUE TO SLIP OFF INTO THE DITCH, BUT WE'RE ALSO CREATING A WALKABLE SPACE OR A BUFFER, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE DITCH SO THAT SOMEONE CAN GET BACK THERE, MAINTAIN THE FENCE THEY CAN MOW IF THEY WANT TO, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE ONE FOOTPATH, BUT TRYING TO AT LEAST WIDEN A PATH THAT CAN BE REASONABLY MAINTAINED AND FOLKS CAN GET BACK THERE. IT'S NOT AN AREA THAT'S REALLY STEEP AND THEN HAVE THE CHANNEL THERE AND ARMORED AS WELL, BUT ALSO AS WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THIS PROJECT, PART OF THE CHALLENGE THERE IS IS THAT DITCH EMPTIES INTO THE POND.
THE POND'S MEANT TO HOLD WATER, SO IT'S GENERALLY RELATIVELY FLAT, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, IT'S VERY FLAT, AND SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME IS IT'S TILTED UP AND IT TENDS TO NOT DRAIN VERY WELL, AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO BASICALLY CREATE A TRICKLE CHANNEL OR A PATH FROM THE END OF THE DITCH TO THE OUTFALL ACROSS THE CHANNEL.
SO TO HAVE A MEANS FOR THE WATER WHEN THERE IS WATER STILL [INAUDIBLE] AT LEAST A CONCRETE PATH, A NARROW ONE THAT IT CAN KIND OF DRAIN THE WATER OUT.
SO KIND OF TO IMPROVE THAT WHOLE AREA AND HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE ANY ADDITIONAL OR FUTURE SEDIMENTATION THERE IN THAT CHANNEL, AND SO WE WERE PUSHING HARD TO GET THE DESIGN FINISHED AND GET THAT BID LATER THIS SPRING AND HOPEFULLY GET STARTED VERY SOON AFTER
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THAT BY AT LEAST SUMMERTIME.SO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I DON'T REMEMBER, PETER, WHAT DID WE VOTE ON THE DESIGN, WHAT IT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THAT WAS OVER LIKE A YEAR AGO, RIGHT? LIKE A WHOLE BUDGET CYCLE AGO? IN NOVEMBER OF '20.
I'M TRYING REMEMBER. SO WE VOTED ONCE AND APPROVED THE DESIGN.
THERE WAS LIKE THREE. THERE WAS LIKE ONE THAT HAD THE ROCKS IN WIRE BASKETS, ONE THAT WAS CONCRETE, ALMOST LIKE A FLUME, AND THEN I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE THIRD ONE WAS, AND I THINK WE VOTED FOR THE CONCRETE.
I'M NOT USING THE RIGHT TERMS, BUT, YOU KNOW, POURED CONCRETE FLUME.
IS THAT STILL THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING OR? YES. OK.
YEAH, AND WE LOOKED AS WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE SCENARIOS, THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL. SO NOT NECESSARILY [INAUDIBLE] BUT THE LARGER STACKED ROCK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WALL AND CONCRETE CHANNEL, AND THEN ANOTHER THAT TRIED TO THERE'S NOT REALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A GOOD SOLUTION FOR A GRASS-LINED CHANNEL, BUT SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF ARMORING AND DESIGN, AT LEAST CONCEPT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IS A CONCRETE RIPRAP [INAUDIBLE] DITCH.
THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN ON THE BOOKS, ANOTHER LONG ONE.
THANKS. LAKESIDE ESTATES SIDEWALK.
SO WE'VE GOT A DESIGN CONSULTANT IDENTIFIED, WE'VE GOT I THINK THIS WILL BE COMING TO YOU THE NEXT MEETING OR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN. THE PLAN FOR PHASE ONE IS TO HAVE OVER 13000 LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK, AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S TARGET FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET ALONG STATE DRIVE, BASICALLY FROM ONE 138 UP PAST THE PARK.
AND SO AS SOON AS THAT CONTRACT IS EXECUTED, WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED AND HOPE TO HAVE THAT DESIGN COMPLETED IN AND EXPEDITED AND HAVE THAT OUT TO BID THIS SUMMER.
WE DO WANT, THOUGH, TO HAVE SOME ENGAGEMENT OR OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO WE PLAN TO DO THAT EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ON THIS ONE.
SO AS MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW, THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT'S FROM 1660 DOWN TO BRUSHY CREEK BY THE AMPHITHEATER. THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, AND I THINK, WAS IN THE BUDGET, AND I THINK WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW IS FOR TO BASICALLY MILL AND OVERLAY THAT EXISTING ROADWAY, AND BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT'S OUT THERE AND OTHER CONDITIONS WE'VE REALLY BACKED UP IN ARE REALLY LOOKING AT THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, I MENTIONED THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.
SO AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, THAT INTERSECTION AT 1660 AND 137 IS IT NEEDS A A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF 1660 ONTO 137, AS WELL AS THE LEFT TURN LANE ON 137, GOING NORTH ON 1660 TO UPGRADE THAT SIGNAL.
IN ADDITION, AS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW, THIS SECTION HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE CHALLENGES, AND SO THE PROPOSED SCOPE WOULD ADDRESS THOSE.
THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT, THOUGH, WITH THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS WOULD REQUIRE TXDOT COORDINATION AS WELL.
AND SO SOME TENTATIVE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DATES HAVE BEEN PUT IN THERE AND THAT REALLY IS CONSIDERATION OF THE TXDOT PORTION OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE INTENT HERE IS TO AGAIN UPGRADE THE ROADWAY.
AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT OTHER THAN FARLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL, EVERY, UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT THERE HAS A EITHER A SITE PLAN OR A SUBDIVISION PLAN OR DEVELOPMENT PLAN UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW AND WANTING TO GET STARTED RIGHT OF WAY, AND SO THAT WHOLE AREA OUT THERE IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY SEE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM WHAT WE SEE TODAY.
QUESTIONS? I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE TIMING BECAUSE WE WE BUDGETED IT THIS YEAR, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED THE RIGHT WAY, AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WAS NOT GOING TO FIX IT THE RIGHT WAY.
IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AGAIN, PRETTY SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS PROBABLY STILL GOING TO FLOOD WITH WITH THAT WORK DONE.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING IN AND FIGURING OUT THE RIGHT WAY.
I HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FIND IMPACT FEES FROM ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THERE THAT
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ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COVER THE COST DIFFERENCE ON THIS AND GET THIS DONE.RIGHT, AND SO AS PART OF THAT, WITH THE TRAFFIC, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AS WELL AS JUST SOME OF THE GENERAL IMPACT RELATED TO THAT.
I MEAN, ASHLEY CAN TALK TO SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICS, BUT ABSOLUTELY TO TRY TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THAT, THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ON THIS OR OVERALL? I THINK THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE, SO.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS UPDATING AND ADDING IN THE ADDITIONAL SLIDES.
I WANT TO RUN SOMETHING BY YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OUR CIP LATELY, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ONCE ABOUT THE ED SCHMIDT AND LIMMER LOOP THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC GOES NORTH AND THEN TAKES IT RIGHT AND THEN GOES TO AN INTERSECTION WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU FIX ONE INTERSECTION, BUT THEN WE STILL GOT A CLOG.
WHAT I NOTICED IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LEFT AND A STRAIGHT RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON ED SCHMIDT. OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ONE PERSON GOES STRAIGHT AND IT BACKS UP WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS MAKING A RIGHT.
SO UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE INTERSECTION, ARE WE ABLE TO UPGRADE IT, THE SIGNAL TO WHERE IT'S A LEFT STRAIGHT? AND A DEDICATED RIGHT, BECAUSE IT APPEARS WHAT I'M UP THERE, I MEAN, I COUNT TRAFFIC SOMETIMES DURING THE DAY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING RIGHT AND VERY FEW PERCENTAGE ARE MAKING LEFTS AND GOING STRAIGHT, AND SO IF THEY ALL ARE ON ONE SIDE, THEN IT CAN BACK UP IN A SUICIDE LANE OR THE TWIDDLE.
AND THEN THE RIGHT PEOPLE CAN KEEP GOING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T THINK IT WORKS NOW BECAUSE YOU JUST BACKING UP LIMMER AND 1160 NORTH, BUT AS WE FIX THAT, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WE CAN MAKE SOME FREE FLOWING RIGHTS.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. KNOWING THAT THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE FLUID OUT THERE WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THESE TIAS OF TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSES THAT COME IN OR THESE STUDIES IS REALLY TRYING TO LOOK BEYOND NOT ONLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, BUT WHAT MAY BE THE TRICKLE EFFECT OF THAT, AND SO IF THAT'S ONE THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
YOU MENTIONED A CIP PLAN THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT'S HIGH ON OUR PRIORITY LIST TO GET THAT DEVELOPED. SO WE'VE GOT A WORKING LIST OF OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS AND TRYING TO GET THAT ORGANIZED AND MOVING FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO LOOKING AHEAD AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF BUDGET AND CAPITAL PLAN, TRYING TO OUTLAY THAT OUT NOT ONLY ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, BUT THE WATER WASTEWATER SIDE AND TRY TO REALLY PAINT A LARGER PICTURE.
SO YOU'VE GOT A PLAN, A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT'S BROKEN OUT BY YEAR, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OUT THERE AND THEN YOU AS A COUNCIL CAN HELP PRIORITIZE WHERE YOU WANT TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS AND ANGIE CAN CERTAINLY HELP WITH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND WHERE SOME OF THAT MAY COME FROM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HELP GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT A SOLID PLAN THAT CAN INFORM YOU AND ALSO GIVE YOU A TOOL TO MAKE DECISIONS.
IT'S LIKE WE'RE STILL PLAYING SEVERE CATCH UP.
THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT CAME UP WAS, I THINK IT'S 132 OR 1660 NORTH AND YOU'RE COMING TO 79 AND YOU TAKE FRONT STREET AND YOU GO EAST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PART OF THAT IS COUNTY AND CITY.
I KNOW THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE OUT TO THE EAST, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STARTING TO FAIL KIND OF LIKE 137 DID LAST YEAR, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY THAT ROAD IS, BUT THAT WAS ONE THAT AS WE'RE DOING A CIP, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT ALSO IN TERMS OF HOW LONG IT CAN MAKE IT BEFORE WE CAN'T USE IT.
YEAH. OK. I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE, I HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT TO ISAAC ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION OR JUST KIND OF WHERE IT FALLS.
THE STREET LIGHTING ON LIMMER THAT'S ACROSS FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
THEY PUT IN A REQUEST BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN THE EVENING, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE CROSSING OVER, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THAT ISSUE FURTHER UP NORTH, EXCUSE ME, FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AT COTTONWOOD ELEMENTARY.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD INTO THE SCOPE OF JUST SAFETY LIGHTING AND SEEING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE DOWN THE ROAD AS WE'RE PLANNING EVERYTHING OUT.
ABSOLUTELY. WHICH INTERSECTION? INNOVATION? NO, ACROSS FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS A BRAND NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GETTING
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DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW. YEAH, AND THAT'S THE ONLY, THE ENTRANCES ARE ALMOST LIKE RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER ACROSS OF LIMMER, AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCIDENTS HAPPENING AND THE PRIESTS KEEP HEARING IT.BUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON'S POINT, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK ALL THE WAY OUT TO INNOVATION THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP, INNOVATION.
I TALKED TO WARREN ABOUT THIS AND HE THOUGHT THAT THERE WERE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THAT AREA WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE TIA MONEY FOR THAT, BUT INNOVATION ON LIMMER, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF NEAR FATAL ACCIDENTS THERE.
THAT'S A PRETTY BAD ONE. SO, THAT'S AN INTERSECTION THAT TXDOT HAS IDENTIFIED TO DO BASICALLY TO A FLASHING STOP SIGN, NOT A LIGHT, BUT A STOP.
NOW IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO GO BEYOND THAT, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT, AND IF THAT'S WARRANTED, TRY TO PUSH THAT, BUT THAT THEY'VE GOT A I THINK IT'S FY24 OR 23 IDENTIFIED THAT INTERSECTION FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION SEVERAL TIMES AND I KNOW IT CAN BE KIND OF DICEY.
SO, I'M NOT AWARE THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT HAS BEEN DONE THERE RECENTLY, I KNOW TXDOT HAD DONE ONE A FEW AT LEAST A YEAR AGO, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH CONSIDERING OR WE CAN LOOK AT TO SEE IF RELATED TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION. WELL, IT'S JUST IT'S SOMETHING TO DEFINITELY LOOK AT BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] IS STARTING TO DO IN-PERSON CLASSES AGAIN AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE GYM COMING IN THAT'S GOT TRAFFIC AND THEN OF [INAUDIBLE] ALL OF THAT, PLUS THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF '23-24 IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR A FLASHING LIGHT, BUT YEAH, OK, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT WAS THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO MENTIONED A POTENTIAL LIGHT THERE AT RIGHT IN FRONT OF COTTONWOOD CREEK ELEMENTARY.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AND POSSIBLY WORKING WITH THE ISD IN KIND OF CO-FUNDING A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE. WE HAD MADE THE CHANGES TO OUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW A CROSSWALK THERE, AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT PUTTING A LIGHT THERE SO THEY CAN THEN PUT AN ACTUAL CROSSWALK PERSON THERE AND MAKE IT A LOT SAFER FOR THOSE KIDS THAT ARE CROSSING.
MM HMM. I JUST HADN'T HEARD AN UPDATE ON THAT IN QUITE A WHILE.
LET ME DIG INTO THAT ONE. SINCE WE'RE ADDING THINGS I MIGHT AS WELL [CHUCKLING] WADE, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED. I'VE SEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF CARL STERN AND 130, AND APPARENTLY MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY DATA ON THAT THE COUNCIL'S RECEIVE THAT I KNOW OF, BUT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE SAYING THEY'VE SEEN MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS THERE.
I DO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU COME OFF OF 130, THE SIGNAGE I DON'T THINK WAS UPDATED WHEN CARL STERN OPENED. SO IT KIND OF TELLS YOU TO GET IN THE RIGHT LANE IF YOU WANT TO GET ON 79, BUT IF YOU GET IN THE RIGHT LANE, YOU GET STUCK AT CARL STERN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU KIND OF JERK BACK TO THE LEFT TO GET UP TO 79, AND THAT HAS TO HAVE CAUSED ACCIDENTS AT SOME POINT. SO I THINK EVEN AT LEAST IF THEY COME BACK AND UPDATE THEIR SIGNAGE FOR WHICH LANE TO BE IN AND ALL THAT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET CONFUSED WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW OF NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THERE, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT.
I CAN ASK. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF HAS SOME NUMBERS OR TXDOT MAY HAVE SOME NUMBERS.
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHO WOULD BE TRACKING.
IT'S JUST ONE ISSUE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO ON THAT NOTE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WHY WE KEEP HITTING YOU WITH IS BECAUSE WE KNOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC INCIDENTS.
COULDN'T WE JUST ASK, CHIEF, WHERE ARE WE HAVING A HIGH PREVALENCE OF TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND ISSUES? YEAH.
OK, THANK YOU. YEAH, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST HODGEPODGE THROWING STUFF AT YOU, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MOVABLE SIGN AROUND, AND SO NOT ONLY DOES THAT FLASH, YOU KNOW HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING, BUT IT'S ALSO CLICKING DATA, AND SO WITH THAT, THAT SHOULD GIVE US SOME BETTER IDEA OF KIND OF AT LEAST SOME NUMBERS, AND THEN HE'S ALSO KEEPING TRACK, OBVIOUSLY, OF ANY ACCIDENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I DID REACH OUT TO TXDOT AND ASK THEM ABOUT THE CORRIDOR ALONG 79.
RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CORRIDOR IN THEIR PLAN, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR, FOR ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC CORRIDOR STUDIES, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A DESIRE THERE AND AS WE TALK MORE ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO VISIT WITH THEM ABOUT THIS. WE WILL BE VISITING WITH THEM HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, JUST RELATED TO SOME
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OF THOSE THINGS. HAVE A JUST A GENERAL CONVERSATION WITH TXDOT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AT LEAST WHAT'S IN THEIR PLANNING QUEUE FOR HUTTO AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAYBE EITHER ENCOURAGE PROJECTS OR, IF NOTHING ELSE, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR PLAN IS, AND THAT WILL HELP US DEVELOP OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD.YEAH, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WANTING TO GET THEM TO DO A STUDY ON 79 THE LIGHT ROTATIONS, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MAYBE OUT HERE, JUST IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC? AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WAITING A YEAR, IT'S GOING TO EVEN BE WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY, AND THE OTHER THING I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO CITY MANAGER TURNER ABOUT WAS ALSO LOOKING BACK AT OUR CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ON ED SCHMIDT AND THE SPEED LIMIT AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT POSSIBLY JUST DOING THAT SPEED STUDY ALL THE WAY THROUGH INSTEAD OF JUST THAT ONE AREA THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE SPEED LIMIT THERE, THAT CURVE WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN REALLY FAST AND ALMOST, YOU KNOW, THEY DROPPED TO THIRTY FIVE REALLY QUICK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I MEAN, I CAN SIT, YOU KNOW, WITH CITY MANAGER TURNER AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH AN AGENDA ITEM FOR IT, BUT AFTER THE ACCIDENT WE HAD THERE RECENTLY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SOON, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW BUSINESSES OPENING UP IN THAT AREA, THE CAPACITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH, ESPECIALLY CONSTRUCTION.
SO ANYWAY, NOW WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER BUNCH TO YOUR LIST.
[CHUCKLING] I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT ON--YOU, EITHER, PADMA, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL WERE THE ONES THAT WERE LOOKING INTO IT--THE DISCREPANCY THAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE TXDOT START DATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE [INAUDIBLE] LIGHT.
THE [INAUDIBLE] AT CHRIS KELLY LIKE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE START DATE, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WERE BEING TOLD SPRING, AND OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME WERE TOLD THIS PAST FALL, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEEN FIGURED OUT.
YEAH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW IS THAT SIGNAL IS BEING INSTALLED AS PART OF THEIR LARGER KIND OF DISTRICT WIDE PLAN, AND SO THEY HAVE A TWO YEAR PLAN THAT THEY PROGRAM DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS, AND SO THAT PROJECT OR THAT CONTRACT WAS AWARDED IN THE FALL.
THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, I WAS TOLD BY TXDOT STAFF WAS KIND OF HIGHER IN THE QUEUE AND THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THEY HAD.
WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND THIS IS NOT JUST THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD IS SOME SIGNIFICANT LEAD TIMES ON MATERIALS, IN PARTICULAR THE TRAFFIC STANDARD [INAUDIBLE] THE POLES. I MEAN, THEY'RE SEEING FOUR TO SIX MONTH DELAYS ON JUST THE POLES.
SO WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO HIT THAT DATE, IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE, AND SO THEIR COMMITMENT IS IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EARLY IN THE YEAR AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ON EXACT START DATE AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM, BUT EVEN THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN GET THE MATERIALS PUTTING GUARANTEES OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER ON CITY ENGINEERING, CITY BUILDING SIDE BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEN THE PUBLIC GETS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND THEN THEY'RE DISCOURAGED OR UPSET, AND.
SO ONCE WE DO I MEAN, WHAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO US IS ONCE THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE TO GIVE US AS MUCH NOTICE AS POSSIBLE, AND SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GETS COMMUNICATED, BUT IT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN GET THOSE MATERIALS.
GREAT, THANK YOU, WADE. ALL RIGHT.
ONE MORE THING. I'M JUST JOKING.
[CHUCKLING] WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK, CAN WE HAVE A SLIDE LIKE THIS NEXT MONTH ON THE NORTH SOUTH ARTERIAL? TALKING ABOUT THE 132? YEAH, LIKE I THINK WE HAVE THE BRIDGE SIXTY OR SOMETHING PERCENT DESIGNED AND JUST FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S MONEY TXDOT WAS TELLING ME A WHILE BACK, THERE'S MONEY THAT THEY HAVE THERE WAITING FOR US TO USE, BUT I CAN [INAUDIBLE].
ALL RIGHT. I KNOW YOU'RE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE, SO APPRECIATE ALL YOU AND PADMA HAVE DONE. ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM 12.7 PRESENTATION ON STROMBERG DEVELOPMENT.
[12.7. Presentation on Stromberg Development (Mayor Snyder, Council Member Thornton)]
GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS SETH MEARIG, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR BGE, WHERE THE ENGINEERS FOR WIDOWMAKER VENTURES ON THE STROMBERG PROPERTY.[02:40:04]
WE WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THIS EVENING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS PROJECT.IT'S BEEN ALSO IN FRONT OF P&Z, BUT HAS BEEN KIND OF CAUGHT UP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOME INPUT FROM COUNCIL, AS WELL AS FROM P&Z AND FROM STAFF ON HOW EVERYBODY WAS LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT AS WE WAIT FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND ALSO WORK THROUGH OUR CONCEPT PLANS AND A FUTURE PRELIMINARY PLAN. I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT'S ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE'S A KIND OF AN OVERALL MAP THAT MAYBE WE COULD BRING UP FIRST MAYBE THE NEXT SLIDE.
PERFECT. SO THIS PROJECT IS SOUTH OF 79, NORTH OF 1660, JUST NORTH OF THE SOUTHEAST CONNECTOR, THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY FUTURE FREEWAY.
SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN BLACK ON THAT MAP WITH THE LABEL OF STROMBERG.
SO ROUGHLY BETWEEN LENNAR'S COTTON BROOK DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEW SAMSUNG PLANT ABOUT HALFWAY. IT'S 390 ACRES AND IS GENERALLY SLATED TO BE A MIXED USE COMMUNITY, WITH SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES, SOME MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND SOME STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE WORKED THROUGH A COUPLE OF PRETTY DETAILED LAND PLANS AND GOTTEN SOME STAFF COMMENTS ON DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING FOR THAT PROJECT, SO WE HAVE DONE SOME FURTHER REFINEMENTS ON THAT TO ADD A SCHOOL SITE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE BRIEFLY WITH THE SCHOOL'S BROKER ON SUITABILITY FOR THAT SITE ALSO ADDING SOME WALKABILITY TRAILS.
KIND OF A NETWORK OF GREEN SPACES BETWEEN THE LAND-USES THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO GET TO THESE RETAIL USES VERY QUICKLY.
SO IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OR BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, SORRY, THERE WE GO.
SO JUST ORIENTING AGAIN, THAT'S COUNTY ROAD 132 ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO THE OVERALL HUTTO MEGASITE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
THAT'S THE SOUTHEAST LOOP SOUTHEAST CONNECTOR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL IN TAN ON THE SOUTH AND NORTH SIDE OF THAT.
THEN UP AGAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE'S COMMERCIAL THE ASSUMING THIS DOES POINTING THE SCHOOL SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER ALONG A COLLECTOR.
THERE'S AN AMENITY SITE THAT'S ABOUT THREE ACRES UP ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THERE'S ABOUT 1500 LOTS IN TOTAL ON THE PROJECT, RANGING FROM SOME TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT UP THROUGH 45, 50, 60 AND 70 FOOT LOTS.
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
CURRENTLY DOWN ON 1660 AT YOU ALL'S SOUTH REGIONAL PLANT UP TO THE HUTTO MEGASITE.
THE CITY, PADMA AND HER STAFF AND IN ADDITION WITH DARREN AT DCS, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME CONCEPTS ON HOW TO MOVE WASTEWATER TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT ON THE REGIONALIZATION SIDE INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THIS IN A PIECEMEAL FASHION.
THIS PROJECT, THE WAY IT DRAINS WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] GOES REALLY FAST, AND THE WAY IT DRAINS WOULD ALLOW.
IT WOULD ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO DRAIN TO THE EAST AND THEN A LIFT STATION WOULD BE INSTALLED AND KIND OF DRAIN WEST BACK ALONG THAT PURPLE LINE INTO YOU ALL'S WASTEWATER PLANT AND THIS PROJECT CAN BEAR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THAT COST AND ALLOW YOU ALL TO GET WASTEWATER TO THE MEGASITE AS A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT WITH US.
I HAVE MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION.
SO THIS ISN'T BEING BROUGHT FORTH BY STAFF FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
YOU AS A DEVELOPER REACH OUT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND PUT IT ON AN AGENDA.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M JUST THE ENGINEER, THE DEVELOPER I BELIEVE WORKED WITH MAYOR SNYDER TO GET THIS PUT ON THE AGENDA JUST FOR COMMENT BECAUSE IT IS TABLED FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WAITING FOR
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P&Z TO RECONSIDER BASED ON THE PROGRESS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PRECEDENT DOESN'T GET SET EITHER, WHERE EVERY TIME A DEVELOPER WANTS TO GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THAT THEY JUST AND I KNOW BEFORE MAYOR PRO-TEM ROSE HAD A REALLY BIG ISSUE WITH THAT AND ESPECIALLY ANY COUNCIL MEMBER DOING THAT.
SO I'M NOT AGAINST YOUR PROJECT AT ALL.
I JUST KNOW AS A COUNCIL KIND OF MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PRECEDENT AS OF LATE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T BECOME KIND OF A FLAG.
WE'LL JUST CONTACT THE MAYOR OR CONTACT PLACE 5 AND SHE'LL GET YOU ON THE AGENDA.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS AND PROCEDURES TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
JUST SAYING THAT OUT AS A BLANKET STATEMENT.
ARE YOU AND MAYBE YOU SAID THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, ARE YOU PLANNING ON USING A PUD SINCE YOU HAVE SO MUCH MIXED USE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? IT COULD BE DONE WITH A PUD AND IT COULD BE DONE WITH CONVENTIONAL ZONING.
THE LAND-USE REALLY WOULD WORK ON ONE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING CATEGORY AND THEN LIKELY WITH A ONE COMMERCIAL ZONING CATEGORY IF THAT WAS EASIER FOR STAFF TO WORK THROUGH.
OK, AND IT SAYS ON THAT MAP ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RESERVE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE, I THINK IT WAS 13 ACRES, SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DONATING TO THE ISD OR SOMETHING THAT THE ISD CAN PURCHASE AT A LATER DATE.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ISD COULD PURCHASE AT A LATER DATE.
THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN STRUCTURING SOME OF THEIR DEALS IS KIND OF A FIVE YEAR WINDOW TO MAKE A PURCHASE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AS A SITE GIVES THE DISTRICT A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY INSTEAD OF SPENDING THAT MONEY ON DAY ONE TO GO PURCHASE THE TRACT.
HAS OFFERED ANY PUSHBACK ON THE FORTY FIVE FOOT LOT IN ALLEY LOADING AND FOLLOWING THE UDC. SO YES, IN GENERAL, I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT TO P&Z KIND WITH STAFF, THE NOTIFICATION CAME TO US A LITTLE BIT LATE.
WE WEREN'T AT THAT PRESENTATION.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S BEEN SOME PUSHBACK ON FRONTLOAD FORTY FIVES.
THAT'S WHY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF ON THE PLANNING SIDE, WE CONVERTED ALL THE FORTY FIVE FOOT LOTS TO REAR LOAD SO IT COMPLIES WITH THE YOU ALL'S REGULATIONS ON WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE FRONTAGE ON A FORTY FIVE CAN BE GARAGE.
SO THAT SWITCHED IT FROM ALL THE FIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE FRONT LOAD FORTY FIVES. DO YOU FORESEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR A LOT OF VARIANCES FROM THE UDC? NO, THIS DEVELOPER WAYMAKER VENTURES IS GENERALLY A SWIM WITH THE CURRENT TYPE OF DEVELOPER. SO INSTEAD OF SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT THOSE FRONT LOAD LOTS, LET'S WHILE THIS PLAN IS IN ITS EARLY STAGES, BAKE SOMETHING AND IT'S VERY COMPLIANT WITH THE UDC. HENCE, THE REAR LOAD FORTY FIVE FOOT LOTS.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING FOR ANY KIND OF PID OR MUD FINANCING.
I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON SO THIS HAS BEEN ANNEXED ALREADY BY THE CITY.
SO A MUD MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT A PID IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUESTS OF THIS PROJECT.
IF WASTEWATER TO THE MEGASITE IN AN OVERSIZE, VERY LARGE SCALE FASHION IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PURSUE, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT DONE.
SO I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE CITY ASKS WOULD BE ON THAT WASTEWATER SIDE.
TO COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY POINT NOT TO KNOCK YOU AT ALL, I'M A BIT BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS COMING IN FRONT OF US WITH NO OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL ACTION.
TALKING WITH CITY MANAGER TURNER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR MEETINGS GO TILL 2:00 A.M, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY PRESSING DECISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE MAKING, AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON STAFF TO FOLLOW PROCESS, AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND SO I HAD PRESENTED AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION BECAUSE I HAVE MET WITH WINEMAKER MULTIPLE TIMES AND I LIKE THE PRODUCT.
I LIKE WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED, AND THEY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT A NUMBER OF MY SUGGESTIONS AND I'M SEEING THEM REFLECTED, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY GREAT.
I'M EXCITED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, BUT THERE IS.
IF WE DO THIS FOR ONE DEVELOPER, WE'RE GOING TO GET ASKED POTENTIALLY, AND WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS BEFORE, AND SO MY SUGGESTION THAT I WANTED TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WAS IF YOU WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF US AND GET AN OPINION BECAUSE THERE'S A DELAY THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAS PUT YOU IN TERMS OF ON THEIR DOCKET. WE CAN MEET IN PERSON LIKE WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY WITH YOU GUYS, OR WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT'S EMAILED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SUBMIT OUR OPINIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK IN REAL TIME.
THAT WAY, WHEN WE'RE ON THE DAIS, WE'RE.
TAKING CARE OF ACTION THAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE'RE HERE AT NIGHT WITH THE PUBLIC, JUST BECAUSE OUR AGENDAS DO GET PRETTY HEAVY SOMETIMES.
I DO THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND I HAD SUGGESTED TALKING WITH ISD ABOUT THE SCHOOL SITE. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE COMMERCIAL IMPLEMENTED NORTH, SOUTH AND AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE ROAD COMING IN.
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I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THE SOUTHEAST LOOP AND GIVING IT A BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL FROM OUR MEGASITE THAT WE HAVE NORTH OF YOU GUYS.SO IT'S A REALLY COOL PROJECT AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I'M NOT TOO KEEN ON MORE FORTY FIVES.
WE HAVE A TON OF THAT IN HUTTO RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF INVENTORY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE FOR A PROJECT THAT'S OF THIS SIZE, SOME GOOD VARIETY.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT THE SITE PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHENEVER Y'ALL ARE READY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE SHOWING US TODAY, I THINK IT'S RIGHT ON THE MARK IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS LAND COULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU HAD INDICATED AN AREA ON THE NORTH END OF THAT, AS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T REFER TO IT AS PARKLAND, BUT--IT'S AN AMENITY CENTER, SO THAT WOULD BE A COOL RECREATIONAL TYPE FACILITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO HOW MUCH SPACE WOULD THAT BE? IT'S ABOUT THREE POINT TWO ACRES.
OUT OF A 390 ACRE DEVELOPMENT? CORRECT, AND THERE ARE OTHER GREENSPACE, PARKS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, IN ADDITION TO THE ONE LARGER AMENITY CENTER.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTIONS, WERE ONE, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF COMING BEFORE US TODAY OR WERE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR INPUT AS TO OUR OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THE KIND OF THE DESIGN IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR OR WHAT WERE YOU LIKE WHAT WERE YOU HOPING TO GET OUT OF TONIGHT? CORRECT, SO I THINK THE IDEA WAS AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BEING UPDATED AND THERE'S DELAY IN REVIEW AT P&Z TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S BUY-IN AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, AND I THINK THE OTHER OPTION AND WE WORK ON MANY PROJECTS IN HUTTO, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF LOTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY.
THE WASTEWATER OVERALL PLAN THAT I'VE SEEN RECENTLY THAT WOULD SEND KIND OF A BIG LOOP AROUND THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY AND SOUTH OF THE PLANT.
THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
SO I THINK GETTING SOME FEEDBACK ON OR PUTTING THAT BUG IN YOUR EAR THAT, HEY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THAT WASTEWATER REGIONALIZATION TO HAPPEN AS A PART OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.
OK, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION I HAD.
SO I'M LOOKING AT KIND OF A BLOWUP OF WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN HERE IN THAT TOP RIGHT CORNER, IT KIND OF HAS THE KEY FOR WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN THERE.
AM I READING THAT RIGHT THAT YOU'VE REDUCED THE 70 FOOT AND 60 FOOT LOSS TO ZERO? AM I READING THAT RIGHT OR IS THAT? THE WAY IT'S DEPICTED RIGHT NOW? WE TOOK THOSE LOT SIZES AND SCATTERED THEM ALL IN THOSE YELLOW LOTS.
WE HAVEN'T REALLOCATED WHERE ALL THOSE LOTS COULD BE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A MORE GENERALIZED VERSION OF THE LAYOUT.
THERE'S BEEN THREE OR FOUR ITERATIONS.
THIS ONE HAS THOSE LOT SIZES, ALL IN YELLOW.
SO, SOME OF THAT YELLOW WOULD TURN INTO THE ORANGE AND GREEN.
CORRECT, YOU CAN EVEN SEE KIND OF VISUALLY WHICH ONES ARE BIGGER AND WHICH ONES ARE SMALLER ON THE PLAN.
I GOTCHA. OK, AND YOU SAID YOU ESTIMATE SIX MILLION IN TRAFFIC IMPACT.
CORRECT AND THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF $6 MILLION IN TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE.
AND YOU WERE NOT PLANNING ON A PID? I THINK THE PID, AGAIN WOULD DEPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE REQUESTS FROM THE CITY.
THIS IS NOT EXACTLY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AND KEVIN IS HERE AS WELL.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M KEVIN PIERCE.
I'M A PARTNER WITH [INAUDIBLE] SINCLAIR.
JUST A COUNCIL MEMBER TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT.
WE DO THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS PID-WORTHY FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS BEYOND JUST THE BASICS OF MAKING THE PROJECT VIABLE, WHICH I HEARD ANOTHER ATTORNEY MENTIONED SOME TIME PREVIOUSLY. NO WE'RE GOING BEYOND THE PRESENTATION.
THERE'S BEEN NO SUBMITTAL OF A PID PETITION, SO YOU REALLY NEED TO CONFINE YOUR REMARKS TO THE PRESENTATION. I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
CERTAINLY, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT TO ANSWER IT SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE CONSIDERING A PID AND WE WILL SUBMIT MATERIALS WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO.
COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, ARE YOU FINISHED? FOR THE COMMERCIAL ARE YOU B-1, B-2, LIKE, WHAT WERE YOU KIND OF HOPING FOR THERE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY A HOPE ON THE COMMERCIAL AND IN TERMS OF DENSITY IT, I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND OR INTENSITY WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT HAPPENS ON THE MEGASITE, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANS ON THE SOUTHEAST CONNECTOR LOOK, THERE MIGHT BE SOME B-1S AND B-2S AND B-3, DEPENDING ON DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.
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I DO NOT LIKE PIDS.I'M AN ENGINEER, I LIKE MUDS [CHUCKLING].
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL REACHING OUT TO PRESENT TO US.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THIS IS A PRECEDENT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS COME UP AND JUST QUICKLY SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT DOING WHAT YOU GUYS' INPUT? I THINK THIS ACTUALLY MAKES FOR A BETTER PROJECT WHEN AND IT'S DONE IN THE PUBLIC, AS OPPOSED TO YOU ALL MEETING WITH SEVEN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SEVEN PEOPLE HAPPY OUT OF THE LIGHT OF THE PUBLIC, AND SO I THINK IT'S BETTER. IT'S ALMOST MORE RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT FOR YOU TO COME UP AND JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? SO THAT WHEN YOU DO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER POINT, WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A FASTER PROCESS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
YOU'LL COME BACK, HOPEFULLY PROVIDE US WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND THEN WE WON'T BEAT YOU UP, AND THEN YOU COME BACK AGAIN BECAUSE WE DENIED YOU OR TABLED IT OR WHATEVER.
SO I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.
IT'S DONE IN THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE PUBLIC SEES WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
INSTEAD OF TELLING YOU WHAT WE WANT AND THEN COME UP IN PUBLIC AND TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE, AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL PUTTING EFFORT IN THIS.
I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH P&Z AND YOU TAKE THEIR COMMENTS INTO ACCOUNT AND YOU FINISH WORKING WITH STAFF, YOU'VE HEARD MEMBERS ON COUNCIL.
I'M CONFIDENT WHEN YOU COME BACK IT'LL BE A MORE STREAMLINED, FASTER PROCESS AND YOU ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWEAKED THE DEVELOPMENT TO MEET WHAT A LOT OF US ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL REACHING OUT AND PUTTING THE PUBLIC FIRST.
P&Z ARE GREAT. I TRUST THE PROCESS.
WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT AS WELL. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL'S TIME.
TO THAT, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? IS IT ABOUT THIS PROJECT? IT IS ABOUT THIS PROJECT? SURE. IF THIS PROCESS OF HAVING THEM COME IN FRONT OF US IS SO POSITIVE, THEN SHOULD WE REVISE OUR POLICY TO ALLOW ALL TO DO WHAT STROMBERG HAS DONE TODAY? WE'VE HAD PROBABLY FOUR SINCE CHRISTMAS HAVE COME UP IN FRONT OF US AND PRESENTED SO WHATEVER POLICY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE FREQUENTLY HAD DEVELOPERS COME UP PRESENT.
THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE ABOUT THE LANDFILL THAT PRESENTED FIRST TOOK OUR INPUT CAME BACK.
SO IF YOU WANT TO BRING A THING UP, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SECOND IT SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT . CAN WE PLEASE ADD AN AGENDA ITEM THEN TO REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF WHEN DEVELOPER CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION? YEAH, DEFINITELY. SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STROMBERG DEVELOPMENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS? OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
NEXT, WE'LL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 13.1 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS
[13. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS, POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUESTS.ITEM 13.2 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087 TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO POTENTIAL BUSINESS PROSPECTS.
ITEM 13.3 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATING TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE CO-OP DISTRICT DATED OCTOBER 17, 2017, AS AMENDED BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND M.A.
PARTNERS LLC AND RELATED AGREEMENTS.
ITEM 13.4 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND SECOND AMENDED AND RESTATED DURANGO FARMS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ITEM 13.5 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.087 TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT AND TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, SALE, VALUE OR LEASE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072 RELATING TO REAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, AND FINALLY, ITEM 13.6 DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PRIOR EXPENDITURE OF CITY LONG TERM DEBT PROCEEDS AND ANY RELATED ACTION BY THE CITY IN RESPONSE THERETO.
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HERE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE DONE COMPLETELY AT TEN.WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF IT'S OK WITH THE COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP ITEM 13.6 DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PRIOR
[13.6. Discussion regarding the prior expenditure of City long-term debt proceeds and any related action by the City in response thereto.]
EXPENDITURE OF CITY LONG TERM DEBT PROCEEDS AND ANY RELATED ACTION BY THE CITY IN RESPONSE THERETO TO OPEN SESSION.DO I HEAR, NO OBJECTIONS? 13.6.
MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE BOND COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE ON FUTURE BOND ISSUANCES AND TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION BASED ON THE BROOKS WATSON AND COMPANIES REPORT OF JANUARY 25TH, 2022.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON.
SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON.
SO SAY THAT WE HEARD THE REPORT LAST WEEK, IT WAS NOT WHAT WE COULD CALL A HAPPY SANDWICH REPORT. I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD IN IT, AND I KNOW THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE.
IF WE WERE AN ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION AND WE WERE RAISING MONEY, WE WOULD EXPECT BETTER NUMBERS OUT OF THAT, AND SO I THINK THIS POTENTIALLY WILL LEAD US TO A [INAUDIBLE].
FIGURE A WAY TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.
WELL, MAYOR, I ACTUALLY THAT WASN'T WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT.
I MEAN, I GOT OUT OF IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN WORSE, BUT IT COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WASN'T PERFECT, BUT IT WASN'T A, YOU KNOW, IT CAME OUT A LOT BETTER THAN I WAS EXPECTING, SO I GUESS I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DETAIL THAT THEY PUT INTO IT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT CITY STAFF IS DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON.
SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON'S SENTIMENTS, I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE REPORT THAT WE ALL RECEIVE IN THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MS. RIOS' IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AUDIT'S RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS AND EVERYTHING SHE'S ALREADY DOING SINCE SHE'S BEEN OUR CFO.
SORRY. [CHUCKLING] THERE'RE SO MANY INTERIMS. NOT EVEN AFTER MIDNIGHT. BUT I THINK THE PERCENTAGE THAT DIDN'T HAVE SUPPORT WAS PRETTY NOMINAL, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BETTER, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY PRETTY GOOD IN TERMS OF REPORTING, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD ONTO THAT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME ANSWERS TO WHAT WE ALL HAD BEEN QUESTIONING FOR YEARS.
I AM HOPEFUL THAT THERE ARE CORRECTIONS THAT CAN BE MADE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE CAN POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO ISSUE BONDS AND GET SOME OF OUR PROJECTS DONE.
SO THAT'S VERY HOPEFUL INFORMATION FOR US IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
YEAH, SO I GUESS MY STANDARDS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I'M CERTAINLY GLAD THAT IT WASN'T TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS NOT SUPPORTED AND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS OUT OF BOUNDS ARE JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME.
SO WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP, WHICH WE'RE DOING AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE AS A CITY. POINT OF INQUIRY, MAYOR PRO TEM, YES.
IF YOU RAISED ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN MILLION FOR THE ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION, AND YOU ONLY TURNED IN ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE RECEIPTS FOR FOUR MILLION, WOULD YOU CALL THAT A GOOD JOB? IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO JAIL? I WOULD, MAYBE, BUT THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY UNACCOUNTED FOR.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION.
I NEVER ONCE SAID THAT THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS A CLARIFICATION.
I NEVER ONCE SAID THAT THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE OR THAT THIS WAS A GOOD THING, OR THAT THIS WAS GREAT AND THIS IS FLOWERY.
WHAT I DID INTEND TO SAY, IF I DIDN'T SAY IT CLEARLY WAS THAT IT CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH, MUCH WORSE, AND I THINK THERE WERE EXPECTATIONS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A LOT WORSE THAN IT WAS, AND IT WASN'T.
I MEAN, IT'S BAD ENOUGH TO WHERE WE HAVE TO FIX THINGS, GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALKED TO BOND COUNCIL ABOUT IT CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN A
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LOT WORSE. CERTAINLY NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.THINGS ARE VERY FIXABLE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PATH FORWARD TO WORK WITH THE AG'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT MORE BOND MONEY AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF FEAR OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT ANY BOND MONEY FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT OUTLOOK, I THINK, IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DIRECTING BOND COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE AG'S OFFICE TO PREPARE FOR THOSE BOND PROCEEDS THAT WE NEED TO. WE'VE GOT, I THINK, A VERY POTENTIALLY GOOD PATH FORWARD.
SO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WEREN'T MISCONCEPTIONS THAT I WAS SAYING SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T SAY. I APOLOGIZE.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
YEAH, AND WE'RE ALSO DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
SO WE ARE TAKING THE LEAD ON MOVING FORWARD IN THAT AREA AS WELL BECAUSE SPEAKERS]. YEAH, EXACTLY.
OK, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[14. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ITEM 14.1 CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION, DO WE HAVE ANY? IS THERE ANY ACTION, 14.1? ANY ACTION ON 14.2? NO, SIR.ANY ACTION ON 14.3? AM I DOING THIS LEGALLY, JUST SKIPPING LIKE THIS? CORRECT. ANY ACTION ON 14.4? 14.5? ANY OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THOSE? HEARING NONE, IF IT PLEASES COUNCIL, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 11:34 PM ON THE SAME DAY WE STARTED. [CHUCKLING] WOW! IT WORKED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.