Feb 24, 2022 City Council

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IT IS 6:01. I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE SPECIAL SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR

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WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL NEXT IF YOU'LL STAND AND JOIN WITH ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.

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THAT'S ALL. OK.

BRINGS US TO CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS, DO WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL?

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I'M WORKING WITH ST.

PATRICK'S CATHOLIC CHURCH TO DO A VIGIL NEXT WEEK, SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME WILL BE PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'D JUST LIKE TO REPORT BACK LAST SATURDAY, WE HAD THE CLEANUP EVENT OUT AT SHILOH CEMETERY. TONS OF PEOPLE WERE THERE.

I THINK WE HAD WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN WE WERE EXPECTING, PROBABLY 20 OR 30 PEOPLE.

WE GOT ALL THE WORK DONE THAT WE NEEDED TO GET DONE.

IN FACT, I THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR WHO ARRANGED FOR ANOTHER DUMPSTER TO HAVE DROPPED OUT THERE. WE FILLED THE ONE UP WAY TOO FAST AND SO WE HAD ANOTHER DUMPSTER OUT THERE.

SO REALLY LIKE TO THANK AL CLAWSON DISPOSAL FOR GETTING THAT OUT TO US AS WELL AND VERY SUCCESSFUL TURNOUT, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE LOCATION OF THE UNMARKED GRAVES.

SO GREAT, GREAT PROJECT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THAT RIGHT? THERE ARE NONE.

WELL, WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 81, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO

[8.1. Discussion and possible action to approve engineering services contract with Garver related to development of wastewater utility master plan. (Wade Benton)]

WADE GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU, LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR OR THAT THE RAPID PACE OF GROWTH TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, PLANNING AHEAD FOR THAT AND LOOKING AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CITYWIDE.

AND AS PART OF THAT IS BOTH THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER UTILITIES AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPACITY TODAY TO MEET THE DEMANDS IN FRONT OF US, BUT ALSO LONG TERM OUT IN THE LONGER TERM PLANNING HORIZONS SO THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING ACCORDINGLY. WE'RE MANAGING GROWTH AND WE'RE ALSO BEING PROACTIVE ON OUR WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM. AND SO THE FIRST ITEM TODAY IS RELATED TO AN UPDATE TO THE WASTEWATER UTILITY MASTER PLAN. THE LAST PLAN FOR THIS ONE WAS PERFORMED IN 2018.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CONDITIONS TODAY VERSUS 2018 ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE PACE OF GROWTH AND SOME OF THE AREAS OF GROWTH.

AND SO THIS ACTION ON THE WASTEWATER, AS WELL AS THE WATER WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE IS AN EFFORT TWOFOLD REALLY.

ONE THE INITIAL EFFORT AND WE'RE REALLY PRESSING OUR CONSULTANTS TO PUSH ON THIS INITIAL PHASE OF REFINING THE MODEL.

I'M CALLING IT SO FROM THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

WHAT WE'VE UTILIZED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS AS A MODEL THAT'S I'LL CALL IT A STATIC MODEL. IT'S ASSUMES THAT CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE CONSTANT.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF LIFT STATIONS, PUMP STATIONS AND SOME OTHER VARIETIES THAT REALLY PROVIDE SOME VARIABILITY TO THAT A MORE DETAILED, ROBUST MODEL NEEDS TO INCORPORATE AS WE

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AND SO THIS INITIAL EFFORT ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE IS IN ESSENCE CREATING THAT MODEL, CREATING GOING BACK TO THE BASICS AND MAKING SURE ALL THE PIPES ARE IN ALL THE PUMP STATIONS. WE GET ALL THE PUMP CURVES AND WE'VE GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION IN THE SYSTEM SO WE CAN ACCURATELY ADDRESS NOT ONLY WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY, BUT THEN ASSESS DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER NEEDS WHEN THEY COME IN FRONT OF US.

SO THE CONSULTANT, GARVER IS GOING TO BE LOOKING CLOSELY AT MAKING SURE OUR MODEL INCORPORATES ALL OUR RECORD INFORMATION THAT THERE'S SOME FIELD INVESTIGATION IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION, REVIEWING SOME OF THE PRIOR WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DATE BY OTHERS AND REALLY BUILDING ON THAT TO CREATE A SOLID MODEL MOVING FORWARD.

AND SO THE TARGET TIMEFRAME FOR THIS INITIAL EFFORT, BOTH ON THE WASTEWATER AND THE WATER IS WE'RE TARGETING 60 DAYS, SO TWO MONTHS EFFORT.

SO THIS IS A VERY FAST, AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE, AND I WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND GET A HANDLE ON WHAT WE'VE GOT AND BETTER DEFINE THAT SO THAT AS WE MOVE INTO THE PLANNING STAGE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND PORTION OF THIS, WE'VE GOT A GOOD BASE TO BUILD ON.

WE COULD START LOOKING AHEAD TO SOME OF THESE PLANNING HORIZONS FIVE, 10, 15, 20 YEARS OUT AND MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT A GOOD BASE FOR ASSESSMENT AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD.

SO BEYOND THIS INITIAL EFFORT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CALIBRATION GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE MODEL RELATED TO IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PUMP STATIONS LOOKING AT THAT PUMP DATA, SOME OF THE FLOW INFORMATION PERFORMANCE, SOME CAPACITY EVALUATIONS ARE REALLY KIND OF MAPPING OUT THE SYSTEM NOT ONLY IN THE MODEL, BUT GRAPHICALLY IN TERMS OF WHERE OUR CAPACITIES, WHERE ARE WE, WHAT HAVE WE COMMITTED TO WITHIN THIS SPACE AND WHAT'S THE CAPACITY FOR IT? SO AS STAFF, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL, IT'S A IT'S MUCH MORE OF A TOOL AND THAT WE CAN USE THAT AS A BASIS MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN FROM THAT, DEVELOPING THOSE CAPITAL PLANS, THOSE PROJECT LISTS UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, THOSE AREAS WITHIN TOWN THAT WE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A NEED PRIORITIZING THOSE PROJECTS, COMING UP WITH THE ESTIMATES FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND DURATIONS AND REALLY MAPPING THAT OUT AND BRINGING THAT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND THEN USING THAT AS A TOOL ONCE THAT PLAN IS IN PLACE REALLY AS A BASIS FOR OUR PLANNING AS A CITY MOVING FORWARD ON THESE PROJECTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR AS WE LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE OVERALL TIME FRAME FOR BOTH PHASES COMBINED IS AROUND THE EIGHT, NINE MONTH TIME FRAME WE'RE AGAIN WE'RE TRYING TO ACCELERATE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THIS INITIAL FIRST PHASE, THOUGH, IS A TWO MONTH SPRINT, IF YOU WILL, TO GET THAT THAT INITIAL MODEL BUILT.

SO YOU SAY, THE INITIAL MODEL IS TWO MONTHS AND THEN WHAT'S THE EIGHT TO NINE MONTH? THAT IS TO DEVELOP THE FULLY TERM, THE LONG RANGE PLANNING EFFORT AND THE SCOPE, THERE WOULD BE A DRAFT REPORT THAT WOULD PRESENT WRITING AND COMMENTS, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME TIME FRAMES TO BE ON THAT TO UPDATE AND ISSUE A FINAL REPORT.

BUT WITHIN THOSE SEVEN MONTHS WAS HAVE A BASICALLY A PLANNING DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? THERE IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'VE GOT THE CONTRACT.

AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT NEXT WEEK YOU'VE GOT A BUDGET AMENDMENT, A SECOND READING THAT WOULD COVER THE FUNDING FOR BOTH THESE ITEMS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, AND I THINK YOU CITY MANAGER TURNER AND YOU WADE FOR GETTING ON THIS.

I DO WANT TO ISSUE AN APOLOGY TO THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO THAT THIS HAS SAT ON THE BACK BURNER FOR SO LONG AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS HAPPENED ON MY WATCH AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, AND I WISH WE COULD GET THIS DONE SOONER BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS CRITICAL TO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND POTENTIAL THAT'S COMING TO THE CITY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD THAT WE ALL SAT HERE AND WE LET IT NOT GET THE ATTENTION IT NEEDED, AND ULTIMATELY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

ISAAC HAS A QUESTION. OH, YES, SIR.

IN ADDITION OR ADDING TO WHAT WADE HAS SAID, IF THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, IF IT

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DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY WAS AT THAT POINT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF SOMEPLACE JUST.

WE HAVE TWO TREATMENT PLANTS, ONE OFF OF 1616.

OK, SO THE EXISTING CAPACITY IS SOMEWHERE IN THE TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY OR MGD RANGE.

WE'RE BELOW THAT CURRENTLY.

I'M SORRY. SO YOU SAY EXISTING, YOU MEAN AS IN TODAY? AS IN TODAY, YES, MA'AM.

SO AS PART OF THE THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS, IT WILL BE TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, BUT THE TREATMENT SYSTEM IN THIS CASE FOR WASTEWATER FOR BOTH PLANTS AND TO COME UP WITH THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD FOR THAT, ANY CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS AND TIMING AND COSTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THANKS.

AND I THINK TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND'S POINT, SO THE CAPACITY IS TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT AS WELL.

WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED IT AT ALL FROM MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S STARTED AT TWO MILLION AND IT'S AT TWO [INAUDIBLE] AND IT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED, MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED TO, AS MOST PLANTS ARE, TO BE EXPANDED OVER TIME.

SO THERE'S AN ULTIMATE WHAT WAS ENVISIONED AS POTENTIALLY THE ULTIMATE SIZE OF THAT FACILITY. BUT WHAT WAS PERMITTED INITIALLY WAS JUST THAT FIRST PHASE.

OK. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM, SOMEONE SO CHOOSE TO DO, WANT TO DO.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT EIGHT 1 AS PRESENTED.

I WILL SECOND AND I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD AN AMENDMENT TO IT THAT WE APPROVE IT CONTINGENT UPON PASSING THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE MARCH 3RD COUNCIL MEETING.

YOU OK WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON? YES. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON APPROVING ITEM EIGHT 1 AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION THAT IT BE CONTINGENT ON A SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ON MARCH 3RD.

SOUND RIGHT? I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE PAYMENT, A PAYMENT THAT'S LISTED IN THERE.

THAT'S A CAP.

SO IF ANYTHING WERE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, IT WOULD COME BACK FOR.

THAT'S CORRECT. OK.

THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE] ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES SEVEN-ZERO.

NEXT UP BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT 2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ENGINEERING

[8.2. Discussion and possible action to approve engineering services contract with Freese and Nichols related to development of water utility master plan. (Wade Benton)]

AND AGAIN, COMING TO THAT RESET, IF YOU WILL, ON OUR EXISTING MODEL.

SO THERE IS AN EXISTING WATER MODEL.

PART OF THIS WOULD BE ULTIMATELY A CONVERSION OF THAT TO A DIFFERENT FORMAT.

BUT. AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE WASTEWATER GOING BACK, VERIFYING THAT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS INCLUDED IN THAT MODEL THAT WE HAVE THOSE CALIBRATIONS TEED UP AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EXISTING CAPACITY.

AND AGAIN, DURING THAT INITIAL TWO MONTH PERIOD.

SO OUR GOAL OF STAFF IS AFTER THAT TWO MONTH PERIOD TO HAVE A WATER MODEL THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED, UPDATED AND AS A BASIS MOVING FORWARD, THEN NOT ONLY TO ASSESS SOME OF THESE IMMEDIATE DEMAND REQUESTS, BUT ALSO STARTING INTO THAT LONGER TERM MASTER PLANNING EFFORT THAT WOULD TRACK ALONG A SIMILAR TIMEFRAME AS THE WASTEWATER PLAN.

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BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO PARALLEL PATHS THE FREESE AND NICHOLS SCOPE INCLUDES SOME POPULATION PROJECTIONS, ESTIMATES IN THERE AS WELL.

THERE WILL BE THE BASIS FOR REALLY BOTH MODELS WHEN WE LOOK AT FUTURE POPULATION AND DEMAND ISSUES, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR AND WE WEREN'T DOUBLING UP THAT EFFORT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH THAT ALONG AS EARLY IN THE PROCESS AS WE CAN SO THAT ONCE WE BOTH HAVE, BOTH TEAMS HAVE THAT MODEL DEVELOPED AND THEY CAN START PLANNING ON THAT IMMEDIATE KIND OF LONG TERM PLANNING HORIZON USING THOSE THOSE PLANNING NUMBERS, THOSE PROJECTION NUMBERS.

AND THEN SIMILARLY, THE WATER ON THE WATER SIDE IN THAT SCOPE WITHIN THOSE PLANNING HORIZON IS DEVELOPING THE CAPITAL PLANS OF IDENTIFYING THOSE PROJECTS, FUNDING TIMEFRAME HORIZONS NOT ONLY FOR DESIGN OR IMPLEMENTATION, BUT BUT HAVING THOSE ONLINE AND ON SYSTEM. SIMILAR TIME FRAME ON THE ON THE ON THE OVERALL SCHEDULE, TWO MONTHS ON THAT FIRST PHASE. APPROXIMATELY SEVEN MONTHS BEYOND THAT.

SO AND AGAIN, THEY'LL HAVE A DRAFT REPORT AS WELL WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME AND THEN ULTIMATELY A FINAL REPORT.

SO I'M A PAUSE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE WATER PORTION? QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? YEAH, SO ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD STARTED DOWN A PATH OF WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, AND I'M SURE SOME OF THOSE MAKE SENSE NO MATTER WHAT, BUT SOME OF THEM, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE SENSE.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, DO WE ARE WE KEEPING THOSE IN MIND AND ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT? AND ESPECIALLY LIKE THE ASR IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE SINGLE ITEM I THINK THAT WE HAVE KIND OF IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW, WHICH COULD BE GREAT.

BUT IF SOMETHING IN THIS TELLS US, MAYBE THAT'S NOT SUCH A GOOD IDEA.

DO WE HAVE A WAY TO GET SOME INPUT ON THAT BEFORE WE GO AND SPEND MUCH MORE MONEY ON THAT? YEAH, SO THIS SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE CONSULTANT TO DO IN THIS CASE IS TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THE SUPPLY ISSUE AND DEMAND AND VET THAT OUT.

IF THAT'S THE SOLUTION, THEN THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE OR A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.

AND THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PLANNING.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE ON TRACK TO SPEND MONEY BEFORE DECEMBER ON THAT, SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THAT'S GOING TO FIT IN TIME WISE, SO YEAH, SO PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, THAT DESIGN EFFORT IS UNDERWAY, BUT IT'S IT'S THE PORTIONS THAT ARE THE THE PUMP STATIONS AND THE PIPELINES AND THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, IN MY OPINION, EITHER DIRECTION THAT YOU GO ARE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I DON'T.

I DON'T SEE KIND OF DOUBLING UP ON THIS IN THAT TERM, BUT.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE PUSHING HARD ON THE SCHEDULE HERE IS TO TRY TO GET TO A RECOMMENDATION AND A SOLUTION THAT COME BEFORE YOU AND HAVE CONSIDERATION AND BUY IN ON THE APPROACH MOVING FORWARD.

OK, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO I KNOW WE'RE SORT OF BEHIND THE, EXCUSE ME, BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND GETTING UP TO SPEED WITH ALL OF THIS.

THE FACT THAT THE COMP PLAN 2040 IS STILL AHEAD OF ALL OF THIS, HOW WILL THAT THEN BE INTEGRATED INTO WHAT'S OCCURRING NOW OR IS IT AN ISSUE? YES, SO AS WE LOOK AT KIND OF REGIONS OF GROWTH OR AREAS OF GROWTH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY BOTH TEAMS WILL NEED TO BE COORDINATING AND FREESE AND NICHOLS IS DOING THE COMP PLAN AS WELL.

SO THAT HELPS THAT YOU'VE GOT ONE LESS CONSULTANT TO DEAL WITH.

BUT THAT WILL BE A CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE LAND USES.

I THINK, IN A LARGE AREA OF THE UNDEVELOPED PORTIONS OF THE CITIES, ETJ I MEAN, SOME OF THAT LAND USE MAY BE CHANGING, BUT I THINK PRIOR TO THEM GETTING TO A FINAL PRODUCT, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF KIND OF WHERE THAT'S AT AND THAT CAN FEED INTO THIS EFFORT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON DEMAND.

SO SURE. THANK YOU.

WADE, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

DO WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS FROM BOTH GARVER AND FREEZE AND NICHOLS FOR BOTH OF THESE? YES WE DO.

OK. SO WADE AND I PREFACE THIS WITH YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR MOST OF WHAT KIND OF GOT US INTO

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WE'VE CRUNCHED EVERYTHING, WE'VE DONE THE MODELING, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE.

AND SO I STILL VOTED AGAINST IT THEN BECAUSE I STILL DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE HAD THE FULL PICTURE. AND WHEN I KIND OF GET WHEN I'M KIND OF HEARING IS WE'RE GOING TO VET ALL THE THINGS OUT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND BUY IN TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON BROUGHT UP A BIT AGO. I MEAN, IT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR ME THAT WE DID KIND OF GO DOWN A PATH AND NOW I FEEL LIKE I'D HATE FOR YOU GUYS FREESE NICHOLS TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT IDEA BECAUSE THEN I'D FEEL LIKE WE WERE MISLED AS A COUNCIL DOWN ONE PATH.

GRANTED, WE HAVE TO DO PUMPS AND PIPES AND ALL THAT.

BUT HAD WE NOT HIRED YOU AT SOME POINT AND THEN BROUGHT IN CITY MANAGER TURNER, WE'D BE GOING DOWN A PATH THAT I MEAN LITERALLY, WE MAY FIND OUT IS THE RIGHT PATH, THE WRONG PATH? IT JUST SCARY TO KNOW THAT WE WENT DOWN A PATH OF 20 MILLION DOLLARS AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK GOING LET'S DOUBLE CHECK.

SO I JUST SAY THAT, THAT'S NOT YOU, THAT I DON'T AGREE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON THE COUNCIL NECESSARILY BECAUSE IF WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS OR BEING TOLD BY CONSULTANTS, ONE THINGS I MEAN, WE'RE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS.

ALL WE CAN DO IS HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP MAKING STAFF CHANGES UNTIL AT SOME POINT THE INFORMATION PRESENTED WE CAN ALL RELY ON AND EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH, WHICH I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

BUT, SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH, I KNOW YOU AND PADMA AND YOUR GROUP ARE BASICALLY DRINKING THE FIRE HOSE AND PROBABLY SHOCKED AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN DOING SO I APPRECIATE YOU STICKING WITH IT.

OK, NOW I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS POINT, I THINK HIM AND I, I THINK, WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT VOTED NO ON THAT ITEM SIX MONTHS AGO, MAYBE NINE MONTHS AGO NOW.

IT'S JUST AGAIN FEELS LIKE WE'RE POURING SIDEWALKS AND THEN TEARING THEM UP, SO WE APPROVED ALL THOSE MONEYS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS, SO I'M KIND OF TO THE POINT THAT MAYBE INSTEAD OF CONTINUING ON WITH DESIGN, MAYBE WE NEED TO AT LEAST FOR A MOMENT, MAYBE PAUSE. I'M NOT SURE AS FAR AS CONTRACT AND STIPULATIONS HOW WE COULD GO ABOUT THAT, BUT I MEAN, MONEY AND IMPROVEMENTS IN DESIGN ON THAT, THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED MAYBE NEED TO BE HALTED UNTIL THIS STUDY IS COMPLETE.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE HAVING AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE, BUT I KNOW I WAS A LITTLE UNEASY WITH IT TO BEGIN WITH.

AND NOW IT REALLY DOES SEEM LIKE WE'VE WENT DOWN A PATH TOWARD THE SIDEWALK, AND IT SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN AND TEAR IT UP.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT 100 PERCENT, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS POINT, BUT FOR ME IT VERY MUCH I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE AS OF SIX TO NINE MONTHS AGO, I MEAN, WE WERE TOLD EVERYTHING WAS ROSES AND FLOWERS, AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS IS WATER FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, AND SO JUST TO BE TOLD THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY DIRE SITUATION AND WE NEED TO DO THIS IN A RUSH REALLY CONCERNS ME.

WELL, I WILL JUST SAY THAT ECHO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, WHICH IS THE WORK THAT'S ACTIVELY UNDER DESIGN AND OR CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW ARE ALL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR WATER SUPPLY SITUATION MIGHT BE OR APPROACH.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

BUT FROM WHAT I KNOW RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WORK THAT'S BEING ACTIVELY PERFORMED RIGHT NOW, EITHER DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M CALLING SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SO I GUESS I JUST KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT LINE IS THAT WE CROSS OVER TO THAT NEXT PHASE, THAT NEXT PHASE WHERE IT'S NOT JUST THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT, IF WE APPROVE THE WHOLE THING OR IF IT COMES BACK TO US AT EACH PHASE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE PHASES. SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE THAT COME BACK AGAIN AND HAVE IT PRESENTED WITH IT WITH THE NEW INFORMATION HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL HAVE.

CITY MANAGER TURNER.

MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY WASN'T HERE SIX MONTHS AGO OR SO.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, KIND OF LIKE THIS.

THE PROJECTS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE TO DO AS BEST I UNDERSTAND WITH MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WORK PROPERLY.

THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A CAPACITY ISSUE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT NEED TO GROW? HOW URGENT IS THE GROWTH? YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE IN BOTH OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT THERE IS REQUIRED SOME REVIEW OF EXISTING PUMP STATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TREATMENT PLANTS AND THAT WHOLE NINE YARDS.

SO WITH THE NEW REPORTS FROM BOTH OF THEM, YOU WILL HAVE A REVIEW OF SOME OF YOUR EXISTING FACILITIES, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AS MR. BENTON HAS INDICATED, HE CAN TAKE A LOOK JUST TO KIND OF DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THOSE RAISES A QUESTION MARK IN HIS MIND IN TERMS OF THEY NEED TO BE

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HE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.

THAT'LL BE FINE. JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAINTENANCE ISSUE AND MOST IN MOST CASES, MAINTENANCE IS OFTEN NEGLECTED ON THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES AS OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE CAPACITY, AND THE CONTRACTS AGAIN DO REQUIRE THAT SOME ASSESSMENT OF EXISTING FACILITIES AND INSPECTIONS OF EXISTING FACILITIES.

IT WON'T BE EXTREMELY THOROUGH, BUT SOME EYEBALL LOOKING AT GOING THROUGH THE PLANTS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU GET ESTIMATES FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED, THAT THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATION OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND NOW AND SOMEWHAT LOOK AT WHAT CONDITIONS THOSE THINGS ARE IN.

NOW, I DEFINITELY HEAR YOU, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO ME THAT IN THE REPORT SIX OR NINE MONTHS AGO THAT THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THOSE EXISTING FACILITIES AND KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY WAS FOR THOSE TO GIVE US THOSE ESTIMATES OF HOW MANY YEARS OUT WE HAD SECURED WATER FOR.

SO I'M NOT DISCREDITING YOU OR MR. BENTON. I'M JUST IT'S JUST VERY CONCERNING, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE MONEY I WANT TO PUT INTO THAT WELL, NO PUN INTENDED AT THIS POINT.

ONCE THAT MAINTENANCE IS DONE, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE MAYBE THEY DID THEIR PROPER DUE DILIGENCE. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING NOW, JUST BEING PRESENTED.

BUT JUST SOME CONCERNING THOUGHTS ABOUT MAYBE ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THE MAINTENANCE PART IS OVER, MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE WHERE OUR PHASES END WITH THAT CONSULTANT COMPANY. SO I'VE GOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

SO MAYBE, WADE, MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS WRONG.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DCS WHO RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO DOWN A CERTAIN PATH AND WE DO THE ASR AND WE DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

THEY WERE NEVER THEY NEVER ONCE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, SAID THAT, YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A MASTER PLAN AS A RESULT OF THIS.

THEY WERE SAYING, THERE'S AN URGENCY HERE.

IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SECURE WATER, HERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.

HERE'S THE WAY WE RECOMMEND YOU DO IT.

AND I UNDERSTOOD WHEN I TOOK THAT VOTE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT THERE WAS SOME LEVEL OF RISK IN THAT BECAUSE WE HADN'T DONE A WATER MASTER PLAN.

AND SO I UNDERSTOOD THAT I WAS VOTING, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME RISK ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT DOWN THE ROAD, WE WOULD NEED TO DO A WATER MASTER PLAN.

WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH.

SO I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT AS DCS SAYING, YOU KNOW, TELLING US ONE THING THAT WASN'T TRUE.

I MEAN, I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TELLING US WAS THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE.

THIS IS THE BEST THING THAT WE THAT YOU CAN DO AS A CITY TO SECURE THAT YOU'VE GOT WATER.

HERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL US IF FREESE NICHOLS IS GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL US, YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA OR ACTUALLY, WE'VE GOT A BETTER IDEA.

ISN'T THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM IN THAT IN THE PLAN IS, YEAH, THE PATH YOU'VE GONE DOWN OR YOU'VE STARTED DOWN IS WE AGREE THAT'S THE BEST PATH.

OR ACTUALLY THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER.

SO I GUESS I JUST I DON'T SEE IT AS YOU KNOW, DCS COMING TO US WITH A STORY THAT WASN'T PROPERLY VETTED.

I THINK AT LEAST I KIND OF ASSUMED AND KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO DO THIS EVENTUALLY AND THAT WE WERE TAKING SOME LEVEL OF RISK A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD TO PULL SOME TRIGGERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOING TO NOT RUN OUT OF SUPPLY.

MM HMM. SO CORRECT ME WHERE I'M...

I NOT BEING HERE WHEN THAT ORIGINAL VOTE WAS TAKEN, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE PRIOR THE CURRENT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED IN 2016, AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DECISION MAKING AND SOME RISKS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BACK WHEN THE ASR WAS PRESENTED AS AN OPTION.

YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, I'M GOING TO CLAIM TO DEFER TO OTHERS ON THAT.

THAT'S...

WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT ON THIS OFF TOPIC, JUST KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. BUT I JUST KNOW THAT I WAS NOT NECESSARILY FOR IT IN THE PAST, AND IT JUST SEEMS AGAIN LIKE POURING SIDEWALKS AND THEN RIPPING THEM UP.

SO IT SEEMS A LITTLE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW BUT.

I WILL SAY THIS, I WOULD THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THAT ANY ENGINEER STANDING BEFORE YOU OR DOING WORK FOR THE CITY WOULD SAY.

THE LAST PLAN WAS DONE IN TWENTY SIXTEEN, IT'S TIME TO DO AN UPDATE.

AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DCS HAS BEEN DOING SOME SYSTEM UPDATES TO THEIR MODEL TO TRY TO ASSESS SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY COME IN.

BUT THIS EFFORT IS REALLY KIND OF THE LONGER TERM PLANNING EFFORT BEYOND THIS INITIAL ON THE WATER SIDE, ESPECIALLY WHAT I'M CALLING THE TOOL VERIFICATION ON THE MODEL, VERIFYING WHAT WE HAVE, MAKING SURE IT'S ACCURATE AS APPROPRIATE AND THEN STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT

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AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARE SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN GREAT IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE AT LEAST HAVE SOME OPTIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION ON PATH MOVING FORWARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH BOTH OF THESE TEAMS AND REALLY LOOKING, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR THESE PLANS ARE WHAT IS IN THE LONG TERM BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY, BOTH ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED TO DO THAT? WHAT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? AND MAKING SURE THAT USE COUNSEL ARE INFORMED AND CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND POLICIES MOVING FORWARD. SO I'LL ASK A QUESTION, I THINK GOES TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS GORDON AND KINSEY ARE KIND OF ALLUDING TO IN MAYBE DIFFERENT WAYS.

DO WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAD IF YOU HAD TO ANSWER? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY LUES WE'VE PUT OUT THERE? LIKE WE'VE AUTHORIZED PEOPLE TO DEVELOPMENTS ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE SAID ARE GOOD TO GO AND WE'VE APPROVED? I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF TOP MY HEAD, I KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US TODAY THAT I BELIEVE ON THE WATERSIDE OR SOMEWHERE IN THE 4000 LUES ON WASTEWATER IS PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ACTIVELY APPROACHED THE CITY ON REQUESTING SERVICE.

SO I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH WITH WHAT I GUESS WHAT I'M GOING TO WITH WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH NOW TO WHERE ALL THE COMMITMENTS WE'VE MADE WERE GOOD TO GO OR DO WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT? BECAUSE TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY SAYING, FREQUENTLY WE WOULD BE TOLD BY THE CONSULTANT, EVERYTHING IS GOOD, THIS IS GOOD.

HEY, THIS WILL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

YES, SHE'LL BE GOOD TO GO AND KIND OF WHAT I'M SEEING BETWEEN THE LINES IS, WE NEED TO KIND OF REFINE SOME THINGS AND GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS RIGHT.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'VE COMMITTED AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOOD TO GO FOR WHOEVER'S DEVELOPING OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GOOD TO GO AND THAT WE HAVE A GOOD GRASP BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD FREQUENTLY FOR DARREN AT DCS WAS WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT WATER PROVIDERS IN THE CITY.

WHEN WE DO A NEIGHBORHOOD, I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON WHAT WATER SYSTEM. BUT WHEN HE WOULD SAY WE HAVE 4000, LUES, WELL, HOW MANY IS ON MANVILLE? HOW MANY IS ON JONAH, HOW MANY IS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO? AND I NEVER REALLY GOT A GOOD GRASP FROM HIM ON.

WHAT WE'VE ALLOCATED TO EACH PLACE TO WHERE OVERALL, WE MAY HAVE CAPACITY FOR FOUR THOUSAND, WE JUST MAY HAVE TWO THOUSAND GOING TO ONE PLACE THAT ONLY HAS A THOUSAND.

AND I HOPE THIS KIND OF FIXES THAT TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND GO, YES, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT ON EVERYTHING.

AND SO WE DON'T WIND UP ONE DAY HAVING TO DO A MORATORIUM OR SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'VE OVERALLOCATED OR OVERCOMMITTED WATER.

BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOME OF US HAVE DIFFERENT, I GUESS DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THINGS IS BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY IS RIGHT.

IT'S JUST THINK WITH WANTING STUFF ACTUALLY IN BLACK AND WHITE WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MIGHT.

WADE, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS COMPREHENSIVELY LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM, RESPECTIVELY.

WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE UTILIZATION CURRENTLY IS AND WHAT CAPACITY OR NOT THE SYSTEMS EACH RESPECTIVELY HAVE IN THOSE, AND THAT'S WHAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL AND SHARED WITH COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS OR SOMETHING AGO, AND CERTAINLY NOT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

SOMETIMES WHAT WILL HAPPEN, THOUGH, IS CIP PLANS WILL BE DEVELOPED ANTICIPATING THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT LIKELY TO APPROVE THIS OR APPROVE THAT.

THE BEST THING WE THINK WE CAN DO IS X, Y OR Z, WHICH DOES NOT FIX THE SYSTEM.

IT PATCHES IT SOMETIMES AND BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A DEFINITIVE ANSWER IN TERMS OF CAN WE MEET ALL OF OUR COMMITMENTS WITH EXACTLY THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW? IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS ASSESSED.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH WADE AND PADMA, OUR ENGINEERS, ASHLEY AND STACY AND MATT AND OUR FINANCE PERSON, ANGIE.

AND THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE ROOM THAT COULD GUARANTEE WHAT CAPACITY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH WAS A CRITICAL ISSUE.

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AND SO AT THIS POINT, LIKE A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE, YOUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS FOR THINGS FROM THE PAST.

BUT WE'RE ALL VERY CONVINCED THAT THE DIRECTION TO GO IS TO GET THOSE TWO MASTER PLANS DONE AND TO GET THEM DONE AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT WADE IS NOT TELLING YOU IS HOW MUCH I'VE BEEN PUSHING AND PRODDING AND BEGGING THEM TO DO IT FASTER.

SO I WAS SO GLAD WHEN HE SAID A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT WE'LL HAVE PHASE ONE DONE ON THE WATER BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HEARING FOUR OR FIVE AND I WILL PUSH THEM SOME MORE.

WE'RE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING TO GET YOU ANSWERS, DEFINITIVE ANSWERS AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING TAXPAYERS MONEY.

I ABSOLUTELY HEARD THAT AND WE'RE ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

WE WERE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WILL HAVE AND MS. RIOS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS COMING UP IS THAT YOU WILL GET A DETAILED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET PACKAGE OR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN THAT WILL HAVE THE PROJECTS LAID OUT. YOU WILL NO DOUBTEDLY NEED TO DEVELOP A 10 YEAR PLAN FOR AREAS THAT ARE CAPITAL INTENSIVE THAT HAVE A LOT OF STRUCTURES LIKE YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

SO AFTER THE BUDGET IS DONE THIS YEAR, YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH FIRMER HANDLE ON WHAT PROJECTS ARE NEEDED BY WHICH AREA, AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE YOUR MASTER PLANS DONE IN THIS AREA AND CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DONE, SO YOU'LL BE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE THEN THAN YOU ARE NOW.

WHY THOSE WEREN'T DONE X, Y AND Z YEARS AGO.

YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT MY HISTORY THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT I DID YESTERDAY, I GUESS, BUT NOT AT WORK, OF COURSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST WANT TO HELP YOU TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD.

YEAH AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE, LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING HERE.

YOU ALL, ANGIE, PADMA, ARE HAVING TO COME IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DID AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, SO SAME THING ON THE EXPENSES, IF IT GOES ABOVE THIS CAP, IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ON THE BOTTOM OF THE VERY LAST PAGE IN THE PACKET, THERE WAS A DISCLAIMER WHERE IT SAYS IT'S UPDATED.

THE RATES ARE UPDATED EVERY FEBRUARY AND THOSE ARE UPDATED ANNUALLY, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2021.

SO ARE WE LOOKING FOR A RATE INCREASE OR THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PASSING WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED AS OF YET.

YEAH NO I MEAN, OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE ARE THE RATES FOR THIS CONTRACT.

OK. GOTCHA.

YEAH. NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ACTIONABLE ITEMS TO BE HAD.

MAYOR I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH FREEZE AND NICHOLS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF WATER UTILITY MASTER PLAN.

SECOND, IF I CAN ADD AN AMENDMENT, JUST A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, HOPEFULLY TO MAKE IT CONTINGENT UPON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT'S COMING BEFORE COUNCIL ON MARCH 3RD.

SURE. WERE YOU ABOUT TO SAY THAT? YEP. OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, APPROVING EIGHT 2 AS PRESENTED WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT IT BE CONTINGENT ON A SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR MARCH 3RD.

DOES THAT WORK? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES SEVEN-ZERO.

ALL RIGHT, WITH NO ATTORNEY DO WE CAN'T GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY, CAN WE? OK. ALL RIGHT.

OK. SO THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNCIL WITH JUST NO ACTION ON NINE 1 AND 10 ONE.

WHICH BRINGS US TO ADJOURNMENT.

WE'LL ADJOURN AT SIX FORTY ONE P.M.

ON THE TWENTY FOURTH.

THANK YOU. WADE, DO YOU HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER INFORMATION FOR FREESE AND NICHOLS?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.