* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. I DO HAVE ONE, [00:00:01] ACTUALLY LET'S DO IT. [(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting] THE, UH, TIME IS NOW 6 31. WE WERE NOW BRINGING THE ORDER, THE, UH, UH, MEETING OF THE HUDDLE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE A AND TYPE B. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. MENDEZ PRESENT. VICE-CHAIR DON CARLSON, RAZA, TREASURE. SEAN LUCAS, PRESENT SECRETARY CHENEY, GUMBO HERE, BOARD MEMBER, MIKE SNYDER, BOARD MEMBER RANDALL CLERK. HERE. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. UH, WE STILL HAVE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE WANDA ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE PRESENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP. NO, SIR. SO MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE CONSENT AGENDA, OR IF THERE'S ANYBODY INTERESTED IN POINTING OUT TO DISCUSS, IF NOT EMOTIONALLY, IN ORDER TO ACCEPT ANGELA, ARE WE GOING TO GET A BRIEFING ON THE FINANCIALS OR JUST IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION THIS TIME, PULL IT OUT, PULL IT OUT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO PULL OUT THE UPDATE ON FINANCIAL MONTHLY FINANCIALS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT, UH, OR TO APPROVE FIVE ONE, THE EMOTIONS. SECOND, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE. DON CARLSON BOARD MEMBER RANDALL CLERK, SECRETARY CHENEY, COMPO BOARD MEMBER, MIKE SNYDER, TREASURER, SEAN LUCAS, CHAIRMAN MIKE MENDEZ. SO WE MOVE ON TO FIVE TO UPDATE ON MONTHLY FINANCIALS. ANGIE JUST THREE BUSINESS DAYS IS REALLY FAST TO TRY TO TURN FINANCIALS AROUND. SO I'M SORRY THAT YOU JUST GOT THEM THIS MORNING, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT I WOULD MAKE NOTE THAT THIS IS OUR REGULAR MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC, JUST OUR REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL. UH, WE RAN INTO SOME SCHEDULING ISSUES OF MYSELF AND THE GENERAL COUNCIL NOT BEING A BE HERE ON MONDAY. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S ABILITY TO MOVE THE MEETING ROUTES. WE CAN AT LEAST BE FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL. SO JUST MY QUESTION. OKAY. UH, JUST REAL QUICK, THE MEMBERSHIP AND DUES FOR ONE 50 WAS FOR WHAT I'LL HAVE TO CHECK. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I APOLOGIZE. I CAN LOOK REAL QUICK THOUGH AND GET THAT TO YOU BEFORE WE, AND I, I HAD ONE ALSO, UM, WHEN DO WE NEED TO RECONCILE THE OUTSTANDING BALANCE TO THE CITY? I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WAITING ON IS TO COMPLETE THE, UM, ANNUAL AUDIT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 9 30, 21 BALANCE THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS. CAUSE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND DID ASK FOR THE DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE, THEY KNOW WHAT MAKES IT UP AND THAT IT AGREES BETWEEN THE CITY'S BOOKS AND THE EDCS BOOKS. AND ONCE I KNOW THAT, THEN, UM, I KNOW WHAT ALL IS IN THIS, THESE NUMBERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT EVERY MONTH AND THEN, UM, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AT ANY TIME, BUT WE'LL MOVE THE CASH IN AND ACTUALLY GET IT REIMBURSED ONCE I GET THE NINE 30 NUMBERS, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOMETHING IF THEY FIND ANYTHING IN THE AUDIT. RIGHT? THANK YOU. WE'RE AT FIVE YEARS NOW WITH THIS, UH, THE SMALL CHECK, I GUESS IT'S STILL OUT ON 4 11 17. IT CAN WE TURN THAT OVER TO THE STATE AND AS WELL AS THE OTHER ONE, THERE'S TWO THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE. WE HAVE TWO OUTSTANDING CHECKS FROM 2007 AND THAT ONE IS SO SMALL. IT WOULDN'T QUALIFY TO GO TO UNCLAIMED PROPERTY. WE COULD JUST DISTRIBUTE IT OURSELVES ON THE BOOKS AND PUT IT ON OUR UNCLAIMED PROPERTY LIST THAT THE CITY HAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ADD, ADD TO OUR LIST, BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOID IT. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER ONE WE CAN SEND, BUT WE DON'T DO UNCLAIMED PROPERTY WITH EDC THOUGH. RIGHT? WE'RE NOT CORPORATION, SO WE DON'T NEED TO, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU, RIGHT? AND SO IT JUST WOULD NEED THE BOARD'S DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THOSE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO AVOID THEM AND WE CAN, OH, THEY'RE FROM 2017, THE CHECKS, RIGHT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO FOR REISSUANCE IF THEY WANTED THOSE FUNDS. AND CAN YOU CHECK ON INVOICE, UH, INTEGRATED IN ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS AS WELL? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A $2,500 CHECK HANGING OUT THERE SINCE, UH, UH, OCTOBER, IF WE COULD JUST FIGURE THAT OUT. CAUSE THAT'S ALMOST SIX MONTHS AS WELL. DEFINITELY STILL WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. SO GEORGE, ON THOSE, UH, STILL CHECKS, DOES THAT NEED TO BE AN ACTION ITEM WHERE THE BOARD [00:05:01] TO JUST AVOID THEM VOTING THEM? I WOULD LIKE WITH PREFERRED. SO WHEN ANGIE, IF THE BOARD JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH A BASE POLICY ON THAT, AND THEN THAT WAY SHE HAS DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT, AFTER, RIGHT AFTER SO MANY MONTHS OR A YEAR, WHATEVER TIMEFRAME YOU WANT TO SET AND WE CAN DO THAT AND THEN JUST, I CAN BRING IT IT'S NOT SITTING THERE ON OUR BOOKS. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? BECAUSE THIS IS SIMPLY AN UPDATE ONLY WE DON'T HAVE, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT, BUT YET YOU BRING A POLICY FORWARD. THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT IF IT GETS PAST A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME THAT THE CHECKS JUST BECOME STALE OR NON-NEGOTIABLE AND WHERE WE COME FORWARD. RIGHT. SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, ANGIE, UH, OUR, OUR OFFICE KIND OF LOOKED OVER THE MATERIALS THAT WE'D GOTTEN FROM BCL AND IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE VETERANS IDENTIFIED A BALANCE AND SO FORTH. HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT AND THAT CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, I WOULD NEED CONTACT INFORMATION. AND SO THE LIST I HAVE DOESN'T NECESSARILY, WELL, IT HAS A BUSINESS NAME. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ALL THE CONTACT INFORMATION. I THINK THAT SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE CAN HELP ME WITH THAT. UM, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE AN UPDATE COMING UP AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND TALK ABOUT, AND THEN LAST QUESTION FOR ME, JUST THE, UM, THE PERFORMANCE GRANTS, THE 30,000, WHO WAS, WHICH ORGANIZATION WAS THAT TO IT'S K TONIC. K TONIC. OKAY. CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY HAD 50. OKAY. SECOND PART TO THE SECOND FULFILLS ON THAT WE APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING, THAT NEW, THE REASON I HAD IN MY HEAD, IT WAS FIXED LIKE, WAIT, IS THIS A DIFFERENT ONE? OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ANDREW. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS ANDREW. UM, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING, I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, GEORGIA, ANYTHING ON THE ITEM AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST? UH, IT DOESN'T REALLY APPEAR TO BE SO, OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TO DISCUSS, WELL, I THINK AT 6.3, WE CAN TAKE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE OTHER TWO FOR PURPOSES OF PUBLIC. SO YEAH, SO, SO IT'S, THOSE ARE SIX. ONE'S NOT SIX, TWO. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST GO SAME THING AND BCL IN THE BACK FOR GENERAL COUNSEL CONVERSATION. YEP. PERFECT. CONFIDENTIAL WITH THAT INFORMATION. IF, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT ON THERE. OKAY. SO WE'LL DISCUSS IT FIRST. IF THE QUESTION COMES UP, WE'RE PUTTING A, THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE BACK. OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL THAT ONE. GOT IT. OKAY. LET'S GO ON TO OUR AGENDA OF 61 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND BOARD MEMBERS REPORT ON INNOVATING COMMERCE, SERVING COMMUNITIES ICSE CONFERENCE IN RED RIVER IN DALLAS, TEXAS ON MARCH THE 30, 22 TO APRIL THE FIRST 22, UH, LAUREN IS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE FIRST KIND OF OFFICIAL KICKOFF TO THE RETAIL SEASON. ICSE IS NOW BASICALLY RESTARTING EVERYTHING PUBLICLY AFTER THOSE LONG COVID LAYOVER AND ALL THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE A MASSIVE EVENT TURNOUT IN DALLAS. IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. WE SAW I WAS THERE THURSDAY. I WAS NOT THERE FRIDAY BECAUSE FRIDAY WAS THE LAST DAY OF OUR AUCTION AGREEMENTS. AND I NEEDED TO BE BACK HERE, BUT I SAW SIX, SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT RETAIL CONSULTING VERBS WHILE I WAS THERE, UM, IN A DAY, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD. WELL, FOR ONE DAY'S WORTH OF MEETINGS, UH, AGAIN, INTEREST IN HOW TO IS HIGH KNOWLEDGE OF THE GENERAL MARKET IS HIGH. ALTHOUGH NOT MAYBE IT'S CHRISTMAS, IT NEEDS TO BE. AND OF THE ONES WE SAW, UM, REPRESENTED DIFFERENT BRANDS OR DIFFERENT RESTAURANT OR RETAIL GROUPS, THREE OF THEM HAVE ALREADY MADE PLANS TO COME INTO TOWN SOMETIME NEXT WEEK. UM, I'VE BEEN RESPONSE FROM SEND SOME FOLLOWUP INFORMATION MATERIAL OUT BACK, UH, AND WE'RE EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IN THE MO IN THE MARKET, WHICH IS WHERE WE LIKE TO GET PEOPLE. UM, PROBABLY THIS MONTH, IF NOT THIS FIRST PART. UM, IT'S ALSO A GOOD DRY RUN FOR ICSE VEGAS, WHICH WILL BE MUCH MORE HEAVILY ATTENDED A GROUP. UM, BUT IT'S HELPED US GET OUR DATA PACKAGE TOGETHER, GET OUR INFORMATION LINED UP FOR THOSE MEETINGS. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE THERE A COUPLE OF THREE DAYS. SO WE SHOULD HAVE QUITE A BIT MORE CONTACTS WHILE WE'RE OUT THERE. AND AT SOME POINT WE JUST WANT TO COORDINATE AMONGST THE REST OF US WHO MAY BE GOING JUST TO MAKE SURE I COVER ALL OF THE OVERLAP, POTENTIAL OVERLAP BETWEEN ANYTHING YOU WISH YOU HAD, BOB, THAT WOULD'VE HELPED YOU BE MORE PREPARED THAT WE CAN DO [00:10:01] BETTER FOR THE UPCOMING ICSE TRIP FOR THESE GUYS. IT'S MOSTLY A MATTER OF DATA. AND SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY, THE ONES AT LEAST I MET WERE ALREADY SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS QUADRANT OF TOWN. IT'S REALLY JUST BEING HIGHLY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT AREAS ARE AVAILABLE, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR. AND IN SOME CASES, SINCE THEY REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN FIXED NUMBER OF RETAILERS, THEY WANT TO COME IN ON THEIR OWN TERMS AND KIND OF GET A LOOK, SEE THEMSELVES. SO I THINK IT'S MOSTLY A MATTER OF DIALOGUE OPENING THE DOOR AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S IMMEDIATE FOLLOW-UP. AND SO WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO GET IT OUT TO PEOPLE RIGHT AFTER THE CONTACT. SO IT JUST KEEPS THE DIALOGUE, ANYTHING LIKE THE BUZZ OVER THERE, LIKE YOU KIND OF WHERE MOST VENDORS WE'RE TALKING ARE WHERE MOST OF THE ATTENTION WAS LIKE, WHAT WERE YOU SEEING AS LIKE THE, THE BUZZ THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD CARRY OVER? WELL, I THINK THAT ONCE WE TALKED TO WERE MOSTLY EITHER A DESTINATION TYPE ENTERTAINMENT TYPE ACTIVITIES OR SPECIALTY RETAILERS OR RESTAURANTS, AND THOSE SEEM TO BE THE GUYS WHO WERE MAKING THE BIGGEST QUICK PUSH BACK INTO THIS PART OF TOWNS. UM, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF GETTING THEM HERE, HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIALOGUE THAT AN HOUR LONG OR 45 MINUTE. ONE GOOD QUESTION. SO BOB, YOU MET WITH, YOU SAID SIX OR SEVEN RETAIL CONSULTING GROUPS, SOME CONSULTING GROUPS, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OVER DEVELOPERS TOO. AND OUT OF THOSE, YOU SAID THERE'S ALREADY PROBABLY, MAYBE THREE OF THEM. THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING PLANS. I'VE HAD TWO ALREADY CONTACTED THAT COMING IN. SOMETIMES ADDITIONAL BELIEFS FOR PUSHING NEW QUESTIONS ARE HERE. SO THEIR INTEREST IS TO JUST FOLLOW UP. THEY TELL YOU, WHAT'S MAKING THEM LOOK AT HUDDLE VERSUS I DON'T KNOW, OTHER CITIES, I THINK IT REALLY, THEY JUST PERCEIVE THERE ARE HOLES IN THE FILM HERE AND THERE'S ENOUGH MOMENTUM IN THE MARKET NOW TO, TO JUSTIFY DOING IT. UM, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING SOME OF THE SAME BUZZ AMONGST THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT WE'RE GETTING ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE OR OTHER USER TYPES. JUST THE MARKET'S REALLY HOT, THE PUB, WHAT SEAN SAID. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT AS A CITY WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT WOULD MAKE US BE MORE, MORE FAVORABLY VIEWED IN SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, ANY KIND OF POLICIES OR ORDINANCES OR, UM, I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE BRAIN GOES SITES IS ALWAYS HIGH ON OUR LIST AD SITES PRETTY WELL, RIGHT. THAT'S ALWAYS REFERRED OR, UM, WE DID NOT GET ANY PUSHBACK ON THE REGULATORY SIDE AND WE WEREN'T FAST ENOUGH OR WHATEVER, BUT IF THAT COMES UP, IT TYPICALLY COMES UP IN THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS PART OF THE CONVERSATION. SO WE MAY HAVE JUST GOTTEN TO THAT POINT. AND I KNOW BOB, DID YOU PARTICIPATE IS KIND OF LIKE A, JUST A PARTICIPANT OR DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A BOOTH OR ANYTHING SET UP? UM, WE DIDN'T DO A BOOTH IN DALLAS AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD'VE MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. THERE WAS A SMALL ENOUGH TURNOUT THAT THERE'S A NETWORKING SESSION OR SECTION RATHER WHERE YOU CAN MEET HAVE BREAKOUT SESSIONS, FRANKLY, THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL IN VEGAS. WE ARE GOING TO DO A BOOTH. UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOME OF THAT AS THE VOLUME OF THE SHOW, HOW MANY FOLKS ARE THERE AND GETTING OURSELVES A PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS ALSO A PART OF WHERE ESTABLISHING OURSELVES AS BEING ACTIVE IN THE MARKET. OKAY. MY QUESTION ON A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A BOOTH, UM, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE STAFF GO WITH YOU TO MAN THAT WHEN YOU DO BREAKOUT SESSIONS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO STAFF THAT? UM, WELL I THINK WE'LL NEED SOMEBODY IN THE BOOTH BALLING WHILE WE'RE THERE. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I'VE GONE IN THE PAST, I'VE JUST GONE OUT NETWORK YET. SO I HAVEN'T GONE TO VENDORS. THAT'S A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET A CONVERSATION GOING. WE HAVE HAD AT A TIME IN THE PAST, UM, IN MY PREVIOUS JOB, WE HAVE HAD SOME VOLUNTEERS GO OUT AND AMANDA BOOTH, I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL IS ATTENDING, IF ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE WARRANTS GOING OR, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN ROTATE PEOPLE IN AND OUT A LITTLE BIT, REACH WE'D COME UP WITH A STAFF LIST OF HOW WE WOULD DO IT. WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BOARD THAT'S PLANNING ON GOING? I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE, UH, UH, LUCAS IS GOING SEAN AND LUCAS GOING UP LEAVE. YOU WILL BE THERE ALSO QUICK TRIP IS TAKING YOU. BUT AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE THE HAT OFF OF MAYOR EDC, NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO. SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT ALSO. SO WE, I KNOW WE HAVE TO, UH, I WAS SCHEDULED TO GO, BUT MY COMMISSIONER SCHEDULED OUR MEETING FOR THE 24TH, WHICH IS THE TUESDAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND. I KNOW THAT A PART OF WHAT WAS ASKED TO ME WAS TO FIND OUT IF ANY OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS CAN ATTEND. UH, I THINK I HAVE NOT, NO ONE ELSE HAS BEEN ABLE TO GO. I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, IF, UH, BOARD MEMBER CLARK CAN GO, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THEM, BUT YEAH. AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE 22ND THROUGH THE 25TH, [00:15:01] 24TH OF MAY. SO JUST KIND OF FYI, IF YOU ARE THEN OF COURSE WE CAN GET YOU THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S JUST A, TO, UH, YOURSELF MAYOR AND ALSO, UH, SEAN WILL BE THERE. SO YOU HAD STRONGLY SUGGESTED, I KNOW, UH, I DIDN'T GO TO THE RED RIVER ONE THIS YEAR, BUT TYPICALLY THAT ONE'S JUST GOT TABLES. LIKE BOB HAS LIKE A BLACK TABLECLOTH AND THEY'RE JUST, THERE MIGHT BE A HUNDRED OF THEM IN A ROOM, LIKE YOU SAID, WITH A ROOM OFF TO THE SIDE, THE ONE THAT IN VEGAS IS MORE, YOU'LL HAVE DEVELOPERS ALMOST BUILD LIKE, UH, THEIR OWN BUILDING INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE OR INSIDE THE CONVENTION CENTER. AND IT'S REAL BIG. BUT THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE LIKE EVERY RETAILER IN THE NATION, EVERY FOOD GUY, EVERY DEVELOPER, BIG TIME LAND OWNERS, BUT IN THE RED RIVER, IT'S MOSTLY TEXAS, I'D SAY TEXAS, OKLAHOMA PEOPLE GENERALLY THAT'S REALLY THE MARKET THAT SHOWS I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS THAT IN ORDER TO GET, IF WE LOOK AT THE TIMELINE WISE OF WHEN THIS EVENT IS GOING TO KICK OFF, WE NEED TO START MOVING AS A BOARD TO APPROVE MARKETING MATERIAL FOR THE BOOTH SO THAT HE'S NOT STANDING IN A WHITE BOOTH WITH NOTHING REALLY IN IT, BUT HANDOUTS. UM, SO WE NEED TO, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN SOME IDEAS BACK TO ME AND TO CHENEY AND WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT OUTSIDE OF JUST KIND OF, UM, BRUSHING UP SOME OF THIS STUFF TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION LOOK RIGHT. I, I, I THINK THE BOOTH LOOKS FINE. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I THINK WE, AS A BOARD, WE NEED TO MOVE ON IT QUICKLY. YEAH. BASICALLY THE WAY THE DESIGN IS, THE BOOTH IS THE MOST TIME SENSITIVE IS WHEN WE TURN THAT OVER TO THE VENDOR AND BASICALLY HE'S GOT FOUR OR FIVE, SIX WEEKS TO BUILD IT, SHIP IT, ET CETERA. UM, WE HAVE A PRETTY SIMPLE DESIGN, SO IT'S EASY TO MAKE CHANGES. OKAY. PAST, YOU KNOW, MID APRIL, WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO PRODUCTION NEXT WEEK, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. SO WE SHOULD LOOK AT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NEEDS. LET ME ASK YOU, IS IT, WE'VE GOT A BUDGET FOR THE MARKETING AND ALREADY CORRECT. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, I THINK IT, AND THIS MAY BE WHERE SOMEBODY, I CAN GET CORRECTED IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD ALLOW THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT MARKETING MATERIAL THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE ICSE SHOW IN VEGAS. SINCE WE HAVE THE LOGOS ALREADY, I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DEVELOPING THE, THE, THE BOOTS AND THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I, I, IN MY OPINION, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, THAT YOU'D HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO GO DO THAT. CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE MARKETING MATERIAL BUDGET FOR THAT. SO I DO WANT TO GET IT AROUND SO PEOPLE CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT IT. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME PAST NEXT WEEK. LET'S FIND SOME TIME. CAUSE I KNEW I WAS SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT IT. AND THIS ISN'T A THING WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO PUT OUT FOR BID TO THE PRINTING LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE AN APPROVED VENDOR LIST THAT WE CAN JUST IMMEDIATELY ISSUE TO. I'VE USED A GROUP THAT'S IN DALLAS THAT DOES THIS KIND OF PRODUCTION. AND MOSTLY THEY DO IT FOR VERY HIGH END, LIKE GAMING SHOWS AND THINGS ELABORATE SAYS, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. SO THEY HAVE SOME PRE-PACKAGED THE LAYOUTS ALLOW YOU TO DO ACCURATE DISPLAYS AND ALL YOU REALLY DO ONCE YOU PRODUCE IT, THEY STORE IT, THEY SHIP IT. IF YOU WANT TO CHASE SOMETHING TO FOLLOW THEM, PEOPLE DON'T COST TO DO SO. SO THE FRAME IS KIND OF WHAT WE NEED TO START MOVING ON PRETTY QUICKLY TO GET APPROVED, RIGHT? JUST THE BASIC FRAME OF WHAT THE STAND WOULD LOOK LIKE AND POSSIBLY THE BACKLIT, BECAUSE ALL THE MARKETING MATERIAL CAN BE CHANGED OUT RELATIVELY QUICKLY. SO YEAH, NORMALLY IT'S JUST KIND OF VELCRO THAT GOES UP, PEEL IT OFF AND IT MIGHT BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, PRINTED ON A TRANSPARENT CARD WHERE IT LIGHTS UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I KNOW, I KNOW THE DESIGN YOU GAVE US IS PRETTY BASIC, BUT THAT'S NOT THE THING THAT NEEDS URGENTLY APPROVED. IT'S JUST THE FRAME. GOTCHA. AND I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN. I THINK IF THE MARKETING TEAM AT EDC IS SIGNS OFF ON SOMETHING, THAT WAS THE DIRECTION OF THE MARKETING TEAM IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED. PERFECT. AND SO I THINK ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE NOT TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED MULTIPLE FOR THE PEOPLE TO DO IT. SO I'VE BEEN APPROVED. SO I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO BE AT, SO THAT WAY IT DOES ONE THING, IT JUST KIND OF EXPEDITES. IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO, TO RUN AND GET THAT STUFF SO WE CAN GET ON TOMMY MANNER AND GET IT IN. I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE OUT THERE, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE SALES PROCESS STARTS. SO THINGS COME OUT OF THOSE CONFERENCES, NOTHING. WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER EVERY SINGLE. AND, UH, HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, BUT IT WAS CONCERNING A ENTITY THAT I HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IN THE PAST, IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE. UH, THERE'S A GROUP OUT THERE. OF COURSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY KNOW AND MAY NOT CALL THE RETAIL COACH [00:20:01] THAT THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF DATA AND ARE ABLE TO DO KIND OF A MARKET ANALYSIS. AS AN EXAMPLE OF HADOW THAT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE STRENGTHS OF THE AREA FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT. I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW. SURE. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS HEARD OF THE RETAIL, UM, WELL IT WAS LUCK AS LUCK WOULD ADD. THAT'S WHO I'M USING FOR THE DATA SIDE OF THIS FOR THIS YEAR. AT LEAST THAT MAKES IT EASY. THEN DON'T SAY, I THINK A GROUP LIKE THAT IS GOOD FOR THE DATA. THE PART THAT ALWAYS BOTHERS ME ABOUT GROUPS LIKE THAT IS THEY JUST START CALLING PEOPLE AND THEY TEND TO IT ALMOST, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY TEND TO SOMETIMES GET IRRITATING BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE CALLING EVERYBODY TO CHECK BOXES. IT'S ALMOST, I'VE CALLED FIVE CONTACTS TODAY. AND SO THEY GOT GREAT DATA, BUT ONCE YOU GET PAST THE DATA PART, IT GETS MORE INTO, I THINK REALLY WHAT BOB AND THE TEAM WERE TRYING TO BUILD AROUND. BOB WILL PROVIDE, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL TALKING WITH PEOPLE, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN LIKE BOB, WE'LL FIND OUT THROUGH THESE PEOPLE, WHAT HADOW HAS THAT MAKES THEM INTERESTED IN HOW TO GO SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET LIKE, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LOCATE SOME RESTAURANT THAT WOULD NEVER COME HERE, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. UM, CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE FOR TOURISTS TRAPS AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE MORE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS TYPE THINGS COME UP OFF ONE 30. AND I THINK THAT, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE DATA IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THE ONE THING THEY CAN'T DO IS THEY CAN'T TELL OUR STORY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO OUT OF HERE IS TO TELL OUR STORY, THEY'LL GIVE US A DATA POINT. SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD GO TO, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HELP US TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, UH, AND, AND TO KNOW TO, TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE OUR MARKET PENETRATION AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN, IN THE MSA OF HADOW, WHICH I'M JUST NOW CALLED IT MSA HADOW. AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO BRING IN AS AN EXAMPLE, P OF CHAINS THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MARKET PENETRATION. RIGHT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING THAT THEY CAN DO. THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND YOU WRAP UP YOUR TRADE AREAS AND DRYER IS JUST LIKE OUR LABOR MARKET, WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT RESTRICTED. THAT'LL GIVE VENDORS A MUCH BETTER SENSE OF HOW BIG THAT STRETCHES AND WHAT'S IN THAT MARKET NOW WHAT'S UNFILLED IN THAT MARKET. SO YEAH, WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHIC POSITION BECAUSE WE CAN SORT OF PULL FROM DIFFERENT CORNERS, WHICH HELPS US QUITE A BIT, BUT PEOPLE HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY THOUGHT ABOUT US AS MAYBE A TOURIST DESTINATION. I THINK WE CAN NOW KIND OF START TELLING THAT STORY. RIGHT. I KNOW THE ISD RECENTLY HAD A, UH, THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE DEMOGRAPHER ALSO, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST EDU, UH, ON FAST-GROWTH DISTRICTS. SO THEY MAY HAVE SOME DATA THAT WE CAN PULL AS WELL. THAT IS ALREADY DONE, PAID FOR PUBLISHED ALL THAT TOO. SO, WELL, I THINK THIS IS A, THIS IS A GREAT START BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE YEAR THAT BOB HAS BEEN HERE, HE SIMPLY HADN'T BEEN IN CATCH-UP AND ANSWERING, YOU KNOW, UH, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COMING IN AND SENDING THEM BACK OUT AND NOW, UH, WHICH GOES ALONG THE LINE THAT WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IS, UH, THAT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND START PLAYING OFFENSE AND START SEEKING THINGS OUT TO TRY TO FIND. AND SO THAT MOVES INTO THAT DIRECTION OF ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL RECRUITMENT PORTION OF IT, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO GET BEHIND EIGHT BON AND ACTUALLY KIND OF FEEL IT, EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING IN. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, BOB, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, I KNOW WE PAY FOR THE SALESFORCE STUFF TO PUT KIND OF A BUILD UP OUR OWN DATABASE WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, I I'M SURE YOU CAN PROBABLY PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT YOU'VE ALL THE CONTACTS YOU'VE GOT. THAT'D BE GREAT. THAT WAY IT CAN HAVE LIVES THROUGH. AND WE HAVE FOR FUTURE REFERENCES IF NEED BE, WELL, ONE LAST QUESTION, WHEN, AND EVERYBODY, YOU TALK TO, HOW IMPORTANT IS, HOW IMPORTANT ARE TAXES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE WORRYING ABOUT AS A, SOMETHING TO BE COGNIZANT OF? LIKE WHAT, YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK ANYTHING THAT LOWERS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS TURNS FOR PROFITS IN THE COMPANY, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE GET, WHAT WE OFFER IS SIMILAR FOR SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. BUT IF WE OFFER THAT BENEFIT PLUS A LITTLE BIT MORE AT LOWER COSTS, ESSENTIALLY. SO THEY'RE KIND OF CONSTANTLY IMPOSED WHETHER IT'S TAX RATES, WHETHER IT'S DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S IMPACT FEES, WHATEVER THE WHOLE FAMILY SETTINGS ALL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S PERSONAL, UM, MARKET, IF YOU CAN GO FASTER AND CHEAPER THAN THE COMPETITION THAT I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME ONCE ABOUT GRAPEVINE BEING FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE ON TAXES, BUT THAT SEEMED LIKE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, YOU KIND OF MADE IT UP, MADE IT OUT, LIKE THAT HELPED AT TIMES WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE YOU WERE GETTING. YEAH. THEY HAD SUCH A LOT OF WRONG LOWERING THEM. I THINK THAT EFFECTED WHEN YOU DO THAT [00:25:01] YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. NOW IT IS THE RAPE OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT SORT OF SHOWS THE COMMITMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL COME HERE AND YOU'LL MAKE MORE MONEY AND YOU'LL STILL HAVE A HIGH QUALITY OF SERVICE, WHICH I THINK IS A HUGE STORY. IF YOU COULD TELL IT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THANK YOU, BOB ADAM, SIX TO UPDATE ON RULE TWO OR TO PETITION. NO MATTER OF HOW DO WE GET OUT DEVELOPMENT TYPE B VERSUS BCL, TEXAS CALLS NUMBER TWO, TWO DASH 0 1 2 8 DASH C 4 2 5 IN THE 425TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS GEORGE. YES. CHAIR. THE EFFICIENT WAS HEARD BY JUDGE LAND, BUT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, UH, DURING THAT, UH, HEARING, WE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR THE INFORMATION. OH, I'M SORRY. I CAN HEAR YOU CLEARLY, BUT I'M SURE I'LL TRY AGAIN. UM, ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD THE, UM, THE HEARING ON THE PETITION FOR A DEPOSITION AND DISCOVERY WITH BCL AUSTIN. UM, AT THAT HEARING JUDGE LAMBETH OF THE 425TH PRESIDED, UH, THE, UH, UH, BCL AUSTIN, UH, CORPORATION DID NOT HAVE ANYONE PRESENT AT THAT HEARING. SO THEY WERE IN DEFAULT. UM, NEVERTHELESS, THE COURT REQUIRES THAT YOU CREATE A RECORD THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT WARRANTS, THE DEPOSITION AND THE USE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, COURT OFFICER POWERS OF SUBPOENA TO GET THE INFORMATION. UH, WE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT, UH, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BY FOLLOWING THE, THE RULE 2 0 2 BY ITSELF, WE RECOVERED $8,000 OF MONEY THAT, THAT BCL HAD OF OUR MONEY THAT WE GOT RETURNED TO THE CITY OF FOUR ON A FOUR YEAR BEHALF. UH, WE DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF RECORDS, BUT AS ANGIE MENTIONED IN HER UPDATE, UH, ON FINANCIALS, FOR INSTANCE, UM, THEY'VE GOT LIKE 45 FOLDERS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ALL THE, THE LOAN INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AND YOU OPEN THOSE FOLDERS AND THEY'RE EMPTY. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT LOOKS LIKE IT. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE MEANT TO HAVE IT IN THERE, BUT MAYBE WHEN WE DID A MIGRATION, IT DIDN'T IT CORRUPTED OR THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. BUT AT ANY RATE, UM, W WE'VE ALSO FOUND SIGNIFICANT, UM, FAILURES IN, IN THE, UH, UM, THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CONTRACT WAS CARRIED OUT, UM, AND THE, UH, WA THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A BREACH OF CONTRACT. AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE AND COMPLETE THE INFORMATION GATHERING PROCESS. UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEPOSITION ON MAY 4TH, UH, TO CONDUCT THAT DEPOSITION. WE HAVE TO, UM, HAVE THE PERSON SERVED BY, BY A PROCESS SERVER WITH THE SUBPOENA AND THE DEPOSITION, UM, NOTICE. AND, UH, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUR COLLECTION OF OUR INFORMATION THERE FROM THERE. UM, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO, UH, PROVIDE AUSTIN BCL AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO, UH, RESOLVE THIS, THIS CONCERN WE HAVE, UH, BY PROVIDING THEM WITH A LETTER LETTER A NOTICE. AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO THE, UM, THE BOARD, WHETHER TO FILE SUIT IN ORDER TO COLLECT ON THE, UH, THE, THE LOST COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EFFORT TO FIRST TRY TO GET OUR OWN RECORDS BACK. AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, UH, THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT SHOWED THAT WHEN INDIVIDUALS CAME AND PAID OFF THEIR LOANS WITH, UM, WITH THE EDC MONEY THAT THEY WERE, UM, IMMEDIATELY IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD, UM, UH, SOUGHT OUT TO TAKE DIFFERENT LOANS FROM THE BCL AUSTIN ORGANIZATION. UH, AND SO THERE WAS, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SOME, UH, SELF DALE DEALING KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS THAT WAS IN THE COURSE OF HANDLING IT. SO FUNNY. YOU SHOULD SAY THAT THERE'S TWO THINGS. I'VE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS PROGRAM SINCE IT CAME OUT. ONE IS THAT THE MEMBER'S NOT ON THIS EDC ANYMORE, BUT I HAVE SEEN THE RECORDS WHERE A MEMBER OF THE EDC RECEIVED A LOAN FROM A PROGRAM APPROVED BY THE EDC. AND ABOUT THE TIME THE CITY COUNCIL WAS HAMMERING THEM FOR WHO'S GETTING THE LOANS, THEY AUTOMATICALLY AUTOMATICALLY PAID IT BACK. LIKE IT'S THE ONLY LOAN THAT GOT PAID BACK IN 90 DAYS. AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ME. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ETHICAL ISSUE, MORAL ISSUE, OR IF A LAW WAS BROKEN, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE UP HERE DOING ONE THING, VOTING, THEN ON THE BACKSIDE, YOU'RE GETTING ALONE. THE OTHER THING THAT'S CONCERNED ME, I BRING ALL THIS UP BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO OR NOT, BUT WE WOULD ASK HOW DO PEOPLE, HOW, HOW WOULD PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE LOANS? BECAUSE I WOULD ASK THEM, I DON'T SEE [00:30:01] ANY KIND OF, UM, THERE'S NO ADVERTISING FOR IT. THERE'S NO EMAILS. AND WHAT I GOT FROM, UH, MARQUETTO WHEN SHE WAS HERE, IS THAT A PERSON WOULD JUST WALK IN AND GO, HEY, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING A LOAN? WE WERE TOLD IN COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHO'S GETTING THE LOANS. AND THEN IT ALL GOES STRAIGHT TO BCL. BUT OUR RECORDS, OUR EMAILS IN THE CITY CONTRADICT THAT, AND THAT OUR, THIS ISN'T BOB EDC DIRECTOR, BUT THE PREVIOUS EDC DIRECTOR WAS ACTIVELY RECEIVING APPLICATIONS AND CHECKING ON APPLICATIONS AND WORKING ON GETTING OTHER PEOPLE LOANS. ONE OF THEM WAS AN ORGANIZATION IN HUDDLE THAT THEY WERE ALSO A PART OF. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SALE BILLING, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MORAL ISSUE IN ETHICAL OR IF LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF CRIMINAL THING, BUT IT'S INTERESTING. THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN, I'M REAL SHAKY ABOUT US EVER DOING THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU SIT BACK AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECORDS AND IT'S A WONDER, THEY'RE NOT GIVING US A RECORDS BECAUSE WE SAT IN COUNSELING AFTER COUNCIL MEETING. AND PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THE QUESTIONS, BUT THE MAYOR PRO TEM. AND I WOULD SIT THERE AND ASK REGULARLY THESE QUESTIONS. AND WE WERE ASSURED EVERYTHING WAS ABOVE BOARD AND ALL THESE FIREWALLS. AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE THE RECORDS BEHIND THE SCENES, YOU'RE GOING THERE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE COMPLETELY INVOLVED TO WHERE YOU'RE LITERALLY SENDING THE APPLICATIONS TO FELLOW EDC MEMBERS, IS THIS ONE OKAY TO GO. AND SO THAT, SO IF YOU NEVER GET THE RECORDS, IT WON'T SURPRISE ME. BUT AGAIN, IT'S NONE OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY AWARE THAT IT'S, WELL, THAT'S ALL BEEN CORRECTED TO SOME EXTENT, BUT THIS WHOLE THING IS IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE EVER GOING TO GET THE RECORDS. CAUSE AS SOON AS I SHOW THE RECORDS, THE GUN THAT SHOWING THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE. SO THE PROCESS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REQUESTED THE RECORDS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED. THE RECORDS IS PUBLIC RECORDS, WHICH HAVE, UH, A, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY A CRIME TO DESTROY PUBLIC RECORD IN ITS AVAILABILITY, UNLESS IT'S GONE THROUGH A PROPER DESTRUCTION PROCEDURE. UH, SO IF, IF WE GO TO THE DEPOSITION AND THEY DON'T APPEAR OR OTHERWISE, UM, DON'T PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO. THEN WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE JUDGE AND HAVE, UH, REQUEST A CONTEMPT ORDER. UH, ONCE A CONTEMPT ORDER IS DONE, THEN THE JUDGE ACTUALLY ISSUES, UH, UH, CAPIAS. IT'S A TYPE OF WARRANT THAT SAYS THAT IF THEY DON'T COME TO COURT ON THIS DATE, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PLACE COME AND GET THEM. UM, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW WHY THEY DID NOT OBEY THE COURT ORDER AND COOPERATE IN THE RULE TO A TWO. AND THOSE PROCEEDS ARE THOSE PROCEEDINGS TYPICALLY INCLUDE AN ATTORNEY'S FEE AWARD FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE FOR THEIR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES. UM, ALSO JUST TO REMIND YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT A CORPORATION CANNOT REPRESENT ITSELF IN A COURT, IT HAS TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IMMEDIATELY, IF THEY ARE TO ENGAGE AN ATTORNEY, THAT'S ANOTHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. AND RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T APPEAR AS IF THEY'VE TAKEN ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION IN CONNECTION WITH THE, UH, THE REQUEST EXCEPT TURNING OVER WHAT THEY HAVE. AND, UM, THAT'S BETTER THAN NOT HAVING WHAT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING IT, BUT WE'VE, WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO BECAUSE WE CAN TELL NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS RELATES TO THIS DOCUMENT AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT'S MISSING, THEN THAT'S REFERENCED OVER HERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE. THAT'S KIND OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE, IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE HOLES ARE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEPOSITIONAL DISCUSS, WHERE THOSE HOLES, YOU FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR GEORGIA. UH, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE JUMPING WAY FURTHER DOWNSTREAM ON THIS, BUT I MEAN, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME AFTER ALL THIS HAS DONE, DO WE END UP INVOLVING ANY OTHER REGULATORY BODIES TO MAKE SURE THAT A, ANOTHER ENTITY LIKE US DOESN'T OR ISN'T, UH, UH, RUNNING THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH BCL SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF OPTIONS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS AND THEN SEE WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE. AND BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK SOMETHING SIMILAR. ARE WE ABLE TO FILE SOMETHING WITH A BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU? LIKE SOME KIND OF COMPLAINT OR, OH YEAH. I MEAN THAT YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT I'M, I'M THINKING OF, OF MORE, UM, LITTLE FIRMER ACTION THAN THAT THE, UH, EITHER STATE OR, OR, OR LOCAL ACTION IN ORDER TO ENSURE. I MEAN, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT THERE, THERE ARE A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT. UM, THE TEXAS DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICES ACT WOULD APPLY TO THEIR BEHAVIOR. AND IF THEY DIDN'T PERFORM IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTED, THEN THAT'S A DECEPTIVE TRACK PRACTICE. [00:35:01] IF THEY, UM, THEY LOSE A DECEPTIVE TRACK PRACTICE, A CASE THEY HAVE TO PAY ATTORNEY'S FEES AND TREBLE DAMAGES. SO AS A PENALTY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DECEIVED OR MISLED PEOPLE IN THE COURSE OF COMMITTING A COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION, WOW, WELL, WHAT THE VICE CHAIR WAS SAYING, I ALMOST THINK WE'D HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE POTENTIALLY YOU MAY GET INFORMATION AND THIS MAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EDC CAN DO, BUT YOU MAY, THIS MAY GO FROM A POTENTIAL SELF DEALING TO WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE TO TURN IT OVER TO WHETHER IT BE THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO WHERE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ISSUES IN THE CITY WHERE WE'VE HAD TO ALMOST STOP AND GO, OH MY GOD. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM, PEOPLE. AND THEN THAT ALL TAKES A BACK BURNER. UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, SHARE THE DATES AND TIMES OR THE THINGS I WAS TELLING ABOUT EARLIER SO THAT YOU, IF YOU DECIDE YOU NEED THOSE OR WANT TO SEE THEM, I CAN, I CAN GET YOU THE, YEAH, YEAH. WE COULD DO THAT, UM, OUTSIDE THE COURSE OF A REGULAR MEETING. WELL, SO IF, IF, UH, THERE ARE NO OTHER LEGAL QUESTIONS, THIS WILL NOT BE AN ITEM NECESSARY TO CALL FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT? SPEAKING OF WHY DON'T WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, LET'S GO INTO ITEM SEVEN, TWO, UH, FOR PURPOSES OF THE EXEC. UM, WE WILL SKIP SEVEN ONCE WE ARE. WE WILL NOT ADDRESS SEVEN ONE AND EXECUTIVE SESSION SEVEN, TWO PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5, 5, 1 0 8, 7 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY FIVE ONE. OH. SO ONE CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY AND SECTION 5, 5, 1 0 7 TO REAL PROPERTY DELIBERATE AND SEEK THE ADVISERS LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN TOURISM INCENTIVE MEGA SITE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, DEVELOPMENT AND PROPERTY CONVEYANCES, INCLUDING OPTIONS IN CONSIDERATION PROJECT D PROJECT E PROJECT, ACROPOLIS PIPELINE, PROJECT UPDATES ON COURSE REQUESTS FOR AN EASEMENT ON CORPORATE OWNED PROPERTY, CITY, WATER, AND WASTEWATER EASEMENT REQUEST MATTER HORN EXPRESS PIPELINE EASEMENT REQUEST. THE TIME IS NOW 7 0 8. WE'LL ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE EVERYTHING READY. THE TIME IS NOW 7 57. THE BOARD RETURNED BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. LET'S TAKE OUT BY ITEM 6.3, UM, UPDATE. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT. I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN LONG ADOBE. I'M SORRY, CHAIR. UM, FOR, FOR SECTION EIGHT, YOU NEED TO RECALL A PORTION OF 7.2 FOR CONSIDERATION ACTION. ONE IS TO DISCUSS, BUT DO WE NEED TO DO SIX, THREE? THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW? 6.3. DO WE NEED TO DO AN UPDATE ON THE ENCORE? YES. GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO THE UPDATE ON NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE, HOW DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ENCORE REGARDING THE ELECTRICAL UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE MEGA SIDE AT THE CORNER OF HIGHWAY 79 AND FM 3 30, 3 49, UH, BOARD. UH, LAST TIME WE MET WE, UH, THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO WORK WITH ENCORE IN ORDER TO NARROW THE DESCRIPTION OF THE EASEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, UH, INSTALLATION OF, UH, ELECTRICAL UTILITY LINES, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE ROADWAY, EXPANSIONS THAT, UH, H UH, WHAT IS IT? 33 49 FARM-TO-MARKET ROAD, 33 49 AND HIGHWAY 79. UH, WE'VE MET WITH OUR COUNSEL AND THEIR STAFF. WE'VE COLLECTED, IDENTIFIED, UH, ONLY THE MATERIALS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND NO MORE. AND WE HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE AND READY TO FOR ACTION FOR THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS LET'S MOVE ON INTO MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ENCORES REQUESTS FOR AN ELECTRICAL EASEMENT AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT ON THE MEGASITE PROPERTY, OWNED BY THE CORPORATION AS MODIFIED AND DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE, UH, THE, UH, EASEMENTS SECOND. AND SHOULD WE A MOTION A SECOND? I WOULD STATE THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, ACTION, RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN RELATIVE TO SIX THREE. SO I SEE WE DO HAVE AN ACTION, OR WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THE CONVERSATION IN QUESTIONS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER, RANDALL CLARK, I TREASURE SOUND LUCAS. I SECRETARY CHENEY, GUMBO. AYE. CHAIRMAN MIKE MENDEZ BOARD MEMBER MIKE SNYDER, VICE CHAIRMAN, DON CARLSON MOTION CARRIES SIX. OH, WE'RE NOW, UH, STILL ON ITEM EIGHT. ACTION. RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, RECALL [00:40:01] THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES DEVELOPMENT IN PROPERTY CONVENIENCES, INCLUDING OPTIONS, CONSIDERATION OF PROJECT D AND TO APPROVE THE ASSIGNMENT AND A S UH, ASSESSMENT, UH, AGREEMENT TO TITAN MEGA DEVELOPMENT, LLC PER, UH, PERMITTING THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE OPTION CONTRACT TO PURCHASE 43.988 ACRES OWNED BY THE TRICKERY AVERY TRUST REFERRED TO IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS PARCEL NUMBER R 0 2 0 9 1 5 AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. WE HAVE MOTION. SECOND, SECOND. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ROLL CALL PLEASE. VICE CHAIRMAN, DON CARLSON BOARD MEMBER, MIKE SNYDER, CHAIRMAN MIKE MENDEZ. I TERRY CHENEY, GUMBO. I TREASURE SEAN LUCAS BOARD MEMBER RANDALL CLERK MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS. BEFORE THIS BOARD, WE STAND ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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