* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WE'LL CALL THE SESSION ORDER [1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER] FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, MAY 5TH, 2022. WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL, SALVO, SORRY. MAYOR PRO TEM CUSTOMER GORDON MCKINSEY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. HERE THEY ARE. SNYDER'S HERE. NEXT WE HAVE INVOCATION. IF YOU'LL STAND WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, PRAY WITH ME, OUR BELOVED FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THIS, UM, OPPORTUNITY, WHICH WE HAVE TOGETHER HERE TONIGHT IN THIS BUILDING, UM, TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY OF HUTTOE AND FOR THOSE THAT FOUNDED IT, AND FOR THOSE THAT FELT IMPRESSED TO COME AND TO SETTLE HERE AND THOSE THAT CONTINUE TO COME, UM, BY THE HUNDREDS AND BY THE THOUSANDS, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE WONDERFUL GROWTH THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN HADOW AND PRAY THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS AND WISDOM TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO COME AND BE A PART OF HUDDLE AND MAKE HUDDLE OF THEIR HOME. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US WITH, UM, BY WISDOM AND THEY PATIENTS TONIGHT, AS WE DISCUSS THESE IMPORTANT MATTERS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS, UH, THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITIZENS AND OURSELVES. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE RAIN THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WE ENJOY BEING IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF WHICH WE ARE A PART OF A COUNTRY, WHICH ENABLES US TO GOVERN OURSELVES AND TO HAVE FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION, OF POLITICALNESS, OF ANYTHING THAT, UH, UH, IS RIGHT IN OUR LIVES. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR, UM, THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY. WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T ENJOYING THOSE FREEDOMS. NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE WAR TORN AREAS OF THIS WORLD, WE ARE MINDFUL OF THEM. WE PRAY FOR ALL OF OUR LEADERS IN THIS NATION, UH, THAT THEY MAY LEAD US AND GUIDE US AND DIRECT US AS THAT WOULD SEE FIT. WE, UM, ASK FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS AND, UH, EXPRESS GRATITUDE AND THANKS TO THEE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN, WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. THAT [5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS] BRINGS US NEXT TO THE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS TO THE MANAGER, TURNER, AARON MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL. UH, JUST A FEW ITEMS. ONE, UH, THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS STARTED A BUTTERFLY GARDEN AT, UH, HUDDLE LAKE PARK. ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING WITH THAT, UH, P A R D AT HUDDLE, TX.GOV TO GET INVOLVED, UH, TOMORROW AT SIX 30 HERE AT CITY HALL, WE'LL BE THE COWBOYS AND MOMS DATE NIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO DO THAT, IT'S SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND. PLEASE COME. UM, WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER CITY SUMMER CAMP. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER FOR THAT, YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBPAGE AT HUDDLE, TEXAS.GOV. AND FINALLY, THERE WILL BE A SUNSET BLOCK PARTY BASH FRIDAY, MAY 27TH FROM SIX O'CLOCK TO NINE O'CLOCK AT FRITZ PARK. THAT'S ALL MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE SOME [6.1. May - Motorcycle Safety and Awareness Month ] PROCLAMATIONS. FIRST ONE IS MOTORCYCLE REDNESS. COME ON UP. WE HAVE THE CARIBBEANOS AND SEEK OR MC AUSTIN IN THIS PLACE. SOULS RIGHT MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS. WHEREAS THE LONE STAR STATE IS HOME TO ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST MOTORCYCLE RIDING POPULATIONS AND WHEREAS OUR BEAUTIFUL ROADWAYS AND MILD LENDERS MAKE GREAT PERFECT. YEAR-ROUND RIDING SEASON CONTRIBUTING TO THE POPULARITY OF MOTORCYCLING, I SUPPOSE, TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION FOR MANY TEXANS AND WHEREAS WHILE NIMBLE AND EFFICIENT, BUT A TRANSPORTATION FOR CELL ANY PAST TIME THAT LEADS TO FUN AND EXCITING ADVENTUROUS FOR OTHERS. MOTORCYCLISTS ARE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY OVERREPRESENTED IN TRAFFIC CRASHES. AND WHEREAS [00:05:01] IT IS VITAL THAT ALL OF US BECOME MORE AWARE OF EVERYONE. THEY SHARE THE ROADMAP, ESPECIALLY MOTORCYCLISTS AND RAS WITH THE LIVES OF OUR FELLOW TEXANS ON THE LINE, WE MUST DO MORE TO PROPERLY SHARE THE ROAD AND ENSURE THE SAFETY OF MOTORCYCLISTS WHO REPRESENT SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE DRIVERS. AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR, THE MONTH OF MAY IS DEDICATED TO AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS THAT COMBAT MOTORCYCLE RELATED CRASHES AND FATALITIES. AND WHEREAS THERE ARE MANY WAYS THE TEXAS DRIVERS CAN HELP KEEP MOTORCYCLISTS, INCLUDING BY INCREASING THEIR FOLLOWING DISTANCE WHILE BEHIND MOTORCYCLES AND BEING MORE AWARE OF INTERSECTIONS AS MOST CRASHES OCCUR BETWEEN THE MOTORCYCLIST AND THE PASSENGER VEHICLE TURNING LEFT, WHEREAS MOTORCYCLISTS SHOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT OR THEIR SAFETY BY ALWAYS WEARING APPROPRIATE WRITING DIETER, AVOIDING WRITING IN POOR WEATHER CONDITIONS, POSITIONING OF MOTORCYCLE TO AVOID A DRIVER'S BLIND SPOT CONSISTENTLY USING TURN SIGNALS FOR TURNS AND LANE CHANGES AND ALWAYS RIDING SOBER. AND WHEREAS IF ALL TEXANS ARE TO DRIVE SAFELY AND REMAIN AWARE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OTHERS ON THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY MOTORCYCLES. NOW, THEREFORE I MIGHT EXCITE OR BAYER ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DO RECOGNIZE THE LACK OF MANY AS MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH AND YEAH. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FELLOW HUDDLE RESIDENTS TRULY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. UH, I THINK ALMOST EVERYONE IN HERE PROBABLY HAS EITHER WRITTEN A MOTORCYCLE, BEEN A PASSENGER, AT LEAST KNOW SOMEONE, MAYBE NEIGHBOR, FAMILY MEMBER, CLOSE FRIEND, UH, THAT RIDES MOTORCYCLES. SO YOU ANNOUNCING THIS IS MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS. WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY DAY, UH, THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE ROAD, WE'RE FACING IT, BUT WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR AWARENESS. ALWAYS LOOK TWICE. UH, CAUSE THOSE, THOSE MEN AND WOMEN OUT ON THE ROAD COULD BE, COULD BE A LOVED ONE. THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO SOMEONE IN THIS TOWN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARILYN SAVING. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. , WE'LL BE SAFE. RIDING BIKES AND ONE OTHER PROCLAMATION [6.2. Annual Professional Municipal Clerks Week - May 1 - 7, 2022] FOR THE 53RD ANNUAL PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK. WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL AND MUNICIPAL CLERK, A TIME HONORED AND VITAL PART OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK IS THE OLDEST AMONG PUBLIC SERVANTS. AND WHEREAS THE OFFICE OR THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK PROVIDES A PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES AND AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS. AND WHEREAS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY AND IMPARTIALITY RENDERING EQUAL SERVICE TO ALL. AND WHEREAS THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK SERVES AS THE INFORMATION CENTER ON FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS PROFESSIONAL AND MUNICIPAL CLERKS CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK, THE PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAMS, SEMINARS, WORKSHOPS, AND THE ANNUAL MEETINGS OF THEIR STATE PROVINCIAL, UH, COUNTY AND INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT, SORRY, WE'RE AT IS, IS MOST APPROPRIATE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL AND MUNICIPAL CLERK. SO NOW THEREFORE I MAKE SAT. OUR MAYOR OF HADOW DO RECOGNIZE THE WEEK OF MAY 1ST THROUGH MAY 7TH, 2022 AS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK AND FURTHER EXTEND APPRECIATION TO OUR PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS AND TO ALL PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS FOR THEIR VITAL SERVICES THEY PERFORM AND THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY REPRESENT. ANGELA. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. [00:10:05] NO, I WEAR MY GOOD SHOES TODAY. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE CITY [7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS] COUNCIL COMMENTS, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. MARY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, YOU AND CITY STAFF, WHOEVER THOUGHT OF DOING THAT, UM, PROCLAMATION ON MOTORCYCLE SAFETY. MY FATHER, WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER WAS INVOLVED IN A NEAR FATAL ACCIDENT. UH, HE WAS A MOTORCYCLE RIDER AND ALMOST DIED AND I HAD A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, UH, LESS THAN A MONTH AGO, DIED ON A MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT HERE IN AUSTIN. UM, AS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, UH, PAY ATTENTION TO AND BE AWARE OF, UM, HIS DRIVERS, THOSE WERE NON MOTORCYCLE DRIVERS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I GUESS JUST HIT HOME WITH ME TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO A CITY MANAGER, TURNER FOR WORKING TO EXPEDITE THE LIGHTS ON OUR BASKETBALL PAVILIONS AND, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WAS NOW SKI. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT. I'M TRYING. UM, I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS A PRIORITY FROM THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, Y'ALL HAVE PUSHED THAT FORWARD FOR THE PARKS THAT WE DO HAVE AND THE PAVILION LIGHTS. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THAT ON AND BEING SERIOUS ABOUT IT. UM, SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO LET THE COMMUNITY REMIND YOU THAT BLACK FAMILIES HAVE HADOW IS STARTING ALL THEIR PREPARATIONS FOR OUR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION. AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT ADAM MORGAN PARK THIS YEAR, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING. UM, THAT ONE, WE HAVE OUR PARK NAMED AFTER OUT OF MORE GAIN, UM, WHO WAS OUR FIRST SETTLER HERE IN HADOW A SLAVE AND OUR BLACK FAMILIES OF HUDDLE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE JUNETEENTH IN THAT PARK THIS YEAR, WHICH IS I THINK PRETTY COOL. UM, AND THEN FINALLY HAPPY CINCO DE MAYO TO ALL OF MY FAMILY OUT HERE IN HADOW. UM, IS THIS IS A CELEBRATION PRIMARILY IN PUEBLO, MEXICO. UM, THE REST OF MEXICO DOESN'T REALLY CELEBRATE IT, BUT HERE IN AMERICA IT'S DEFINITELY BECOME A CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC CULTURE AND HERITAGE OF, OF WHICH I AM. AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE REST OF THE 54% OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY HERE IN HUTTOE. UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M WEARING MY, MY ATTIRE TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT I WORE WHEN I GOT ENGAGED. SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A VERY EXCITING DAY FOR, FOR HISPANIC PEOPLE AND TO SHARE OUR, OUR CULTURE. SO, UH, THANK YOU. UM, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A FUN CINCO DE MAYO AND OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. I DO, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, IF, IF THOSE OF YOU KIND OF HUNG OUT OR WATCHED, UH, THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, I DID CALL TO QUESTION, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS HONOR HERETO CITY COUNCIL EXPECTATIONS. UM, THIS CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY ADOPTED THESE TO DATE ON FEBRUARY 17TH, AFTER GOING THROUGH A STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, SESSION. I WANT TAXPAYERS TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY PAID FOR THAT SESSION, JUST SO THEY KNOW THE MAGNITUDE OF, UM, WHAT WE ADOPTED AND WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO OUR CITIZENS. UM, YOU, THE TAXPAYER ME, THE TAXPAYER AND THE REST OF US PAID $14,000 FOR THAT TWO DAY FACILITATOR. YOU ALSO PAID FOR $700 IN FOOD. WHAT CAME OF THAT IS OUR PILLARS, WHICH WE WILL BE SHARING MORE ABOUT LATER. AND I KNOW WE KIND OF SHARED THIS AND, UM, CITY MANAGER, TURNER KIND OF WENT THROUGH IT, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE ADOPTED DIDN'T HIT HOME TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ADOPTED IT. THE FIRST ONE IS DISCUSSED RESPECTFULLY, WHICH IS THE ONE I CALLED OUT. UM, A THAT MEANS TAKE TURNS. DON'T INTERRUPT. DON'T USE ACCUSATORY OR INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE, RESPECT SOMEONE ELSE'S STANCE TO FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM, NOT THE PERSON THREE STAY ON YOUR SACRED GROUND. DON'T SHRINK. DON'T POP UP THREE. I'M SORRY. FOUR. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK, BE RESPONSIVE, NOT REACTIVE FIVE, NO, BACK-CHANNELING SIX. DON'T GO TO BED ANGRY. AFTER A COUNCIL MEETING. WHEN I ATTEMPTED TO CALL ATTENTION [00:15:01] TO ITEM ONE AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING AFTER OUR CITY MANAGER WAS SILENCED AND REPEATEDLY GOES ON IGNORED DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, I REQUESTED, UM, SORRY, SAML TO AND CONTINUED AND DISRESPECTFUL CONVERSATION ENSUED. IT WAS MET BY ONE INDIVIDUAL'S JUDGMENT ON WHAT IS DEEMED DISRESPECTFUL AND WHAT ISN'T WITH NO TIME TO THINK BEFORE THEY SPOKE. NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WEIGHED IN ON IT. ALL SEVEN OF US ADOPTED THIS CRITERIA, BUT YET I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT STOOD UP FINALLY AND SAID, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE ADOPTED. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE TAXPAYERS PAID FOR. IF WE AREN'T GOING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, AND THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE SEATS, DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE WASTED WHAT ALMOST $20,000 OF YOUR MONEY. SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW MOVING FORWARD. SO WHEN IT HAPPENS AND HOPEFULLY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SPEAK UP AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO OF YOUR EXPECTATION SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU'VE MADE TO THE CITIZENS OF HUDDLE. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? I HAVE A COUNCIL COMMENT MIRROR. SO I'M GONNA READ THIS, UM, UH, COUNSEL. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. TO ONCE AGAIN, SERVE THE CITIZENS OF HEDO FROM THE DIOCESE. THIS WILL BE MY LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS THE S THIS IS A SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY AND I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY. THE CITY OF HADOW HAS HAD MANY CHALLENGES IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, BUT WE MUST KEEP OUR FOCUS ON WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS ONE, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PERSONAL AGENDAS ON THIS, A DYESS TOO. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY. THREE IT'S ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF HADOW AND IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE THEM. WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WHERE THE CITY HAS BEEN BROKEN. IF WE DON'T GET IT RIGHT, WE WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FACE THAT PROBLEM. AGAIN, WE ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE, PAST AND PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND CITIZENS. LET'S NOT FORGET OUR ROLE IN THIS EQUATION. ANY OF US LET'S REMEMBER WHERE OUR ROLE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER STARTS AND STOPS. WE HIRED THE CITY MANAGER AND THAT MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STAFF, NOT US. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE YOUR TRAINING AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. NONE OF US KNOW IT ALL. THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. SOCIAL MEDIA CAN BE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT, BUT EQUALLY IT IS A DIVISIVE AND DETRIMENTAL ASPECT OF THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY. I WOULD CAUTION COUNCIL AND CITIZENS TO BE A BIT MORE THOUGHTFUL IN YOUR WORDS, AND IN YOUR ACTIONS, WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER. WE WILL WIN, OR WE WILL LOOSE. I WILL STEP DOWN THIS EVENING FROM THIS POSITION AS THE ELECTION IS ON SATURDAY, BUT I WILL NOT STEP AWAY. I WILL CONTINUE AS A CITIZEN OF HADOW AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK FOR THE SUCCESS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL BE WATCHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEBBIE. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS, RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL, LIAISON REPORTS. ANY REPORTS THERE? YEAH, WE ACTUALLY, UM, HOW THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A HPC MEETING, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, MEETING. AND THERE IS A PROPERTY AT 1 0 2 WEST PECAN STREET THAT IS ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. AND, UM, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS BUILD A NEW RETAIL STRUCTURE. THERE, THERE ARE, UM, IT WAS APPROVED. UM, BUT HOWEVER, THERE ARE EXPECTATIONS THAT NEED TO CONTINUE [00:20:01] TO HAPPEN AS FAR AS THE FACADE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. AND ALSO, UM, WITH THE EXITING OF, UM, MR. ALLEN DEANN, WARLEY WAS NAMED CHAIR OF THE HPC IS ON REPORTS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY ON, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING WAS GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT, UM, THUMBS, THUMBS UP. UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL, UH, I THINK WE'RE OPENING UP THAT HERE SOON. I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DUE OR THE DEADLINE IS GOING TO BE IN JUNE. UM, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF THE DNI FOCUS ON A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, SO THE DNI CHAIRMAN, UM, SAT IN ON SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AND HELPED TO FORMULATE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, SO I AM REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT AND KIND OF WHAT ACTUALLY COMES TO THAT. UM, SO I DID JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE FROM THAT FOR THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT ONE FOR A P AND Z. THEY MET THIS PAST WEEK. UM, AND, BUT JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DO HAVE A NEW OPENING. SO RANDALL CLARK, UM, AS RESIGNED FROM P AND Z. AND SO WE DO HAVE AN OPENING. IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY. AND THEN ALSO, UH, JUST WAS AGAIN, IMPRESSED WITH THE PROFESSIONALISM AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY WENT THROUGH. THEY'RE ASKING REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, BEING VERY DETAILED AND DENYING PLATS WHEN THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA. AND THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO SAY NOPE, DO IT AGAIN. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, IT WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE WORKING REALLY HARD. THEY'RE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS WELL, REPRESENTING THE SABLE. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO OTHERS WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE TO SPEAK, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SHEETS UP HERE. SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT ONE OF OUR, UM, SPEAKING FORUMS. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO A SPECIFIC ITEM, YOU'LL STILL NEED TO FILL OUT A FORM, BUT YOU HAVE TO WRITE THAT OUT. SO WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. SEE NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT [9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA. YOU HAVE ITEMS 9 1 9 2 9 3 9 4 AND NINE FIVE UP FOR CONSIDERATION MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 13 ONE UP IN LIGHT OF A LETTER RECEIVED TODAY BY CITY COUNCIL, UM, FROM THE LEGAL FIRM OF HASHANA AND PETERS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, UM, IN EXECUTIVE AND THEN COME OUT AND DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT. SO YOU WANT TO DO 13. YOU WANT TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION RIGHT ON THAT ONE SPECIFIC ITEM. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER LEGAL MATTERS THAT NEED PENDING LEGAL, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. IF WE CAN WAIVE THAT IN, I WOULD ALSO REQUEST A CITY MANAGER TURNER INSTEAD OF GOING UPSTAIRS. IF WE COULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION HERE AT EXPEDITE, THE TIME FOR THOSE WHO ARE AWAITING, UH, FOR ME, I OBJECT TO MOVING THAT UP. MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE REST OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS AND TO MOVE IT ABOVE. EVERYBODY ELSE IS HERE WAITING. I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT TO BE MOVED UP. IF YOU WANT, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON MOVING IT UP. SURE. ALRIGHT. CALL THE VOTE TO MOVE ITEM 13 ONE UP NEXT, THE VERY SECOND. DID WE NEED A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. IT, YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. MAY MAYOR SNYDER SOME MEMBER VILLA, RURAL SALVA. I TELL SOME MEMBER KINSEY HOW SOME MEMBER HOLLAND NAY. NOW SOME MEMBERS SETTING I TELL SOME MEMBER GORDON IS THAT FOUR, THREE MOTION FAILS. FIVE TO TWO OR TWO TO FIVE. I GUESS MAYOR I'D LIKE TO MOVE NINE, FOUR OUT OF CONSENT, PLEASE. WE HAVE NINE, FOUR OUT OF CONSENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NINE, FIVE OUT OF CONSENT. THE OBJECTIONS TO MOVING 9, 4, 9, 5 OUT OF CONSENT. VERY NONE. THAT LEAVES ITEMS 9 1 9 293. I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED 9 1 9 2 AND 93 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL SALVO. SECOND BY CUSTOMER MCKINSEY APPROVING 9 1 9 2 9 3 AS PRESENTED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. I HAVE SOME MEMBER SETTING. I ALSO MEMBER HOLLAND I [00:25:01] COUNCIL MEMBER KENZIE. I HAVE SOME, A REAL, A REAL SALVO MAYOR, SCHNEIDER MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON QUESTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. NEXT. WE HAVE ITEM NINE FOR [9.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution R-2022-017 authorizing the City to continue its membership with the Atmos Cities Steering Committee to protect the interests of the City of Hutto and protect the interests of the customers of Atmos Energy Corporation, Mid-Tex Division residing and conducting business within the City limits (Matt Wojnowski, Legal)] CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION OUR DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 7, AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO CONTINUE ITS MEMBERSHIP WITH THE ATMOS CITY STEERING COMMITTEE TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE CITY OF HADOW AND PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE CUSTOMERS OF ATMOS ENERGY CORPORATION, MID TEXT DIVISION RESIDING, AND CONDUCTING BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. UM, MARY, I ASKED HIM WHO THIS OUT SINCE WE HAVE FINALLY RECEIVED, NOT FINALLY, BUT WE HAVE NOW RECEIVED THE DATA THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THIS. AND, UM, I KNOW THIS IS ONLY $1,500 TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT IT'S $1,500 AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROI IS THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE TAXPAYERS. UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED WERE HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO WE HAVE THAT ARE AT MOST CUSTOMERS, UM, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN LOOKING AT JUST THE, WHAT THE ROI IS. AND I THINK A 3000% ROI ON A $1,500 ASSESSMENT IS A PRETTY GOOD REASON FOR US TO JUST STICK WITH IT. UM, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH ATMOS. AND, UH, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DATA THAT WILL MAKE IT GOING FORWARD A LOT FASTER OF A DECISION ANNUALLY, I W I WOULD JUST CONCUR WITH THAT. I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE, IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO PULL OUT AND THEN WE'RE ONLY ONE CITY THAT'S TRYING TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOTHING WE HAVE NO LEVERAGE. SO BEING PART OF THAT GROUP, UM, IS CERTAINLY TO OUR FAVOR CMH, RETURNER, WHERE YOU ABLE TO FIND OUT IF WE WEREN'T, IN FACT, THE ONLY CITY IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA HERE, THAT IS PART OF THIS. YES, THAT WAS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO ASK MATT TO BE THE BETTER ALSO UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UH, TEXAS CITIES IN THAT GROUP. MOST OF THEM WERE IN NORTH TEXAS IN THE METROPOLITAN DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. UM, HOWEVER, LIKE KALENE HARKER HEIGHTS, UH, SOME OF THOSE CITIES ARE ALSO IN THIS GROUP. OKAY. I'D DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT CITIES WERE PART OF IT. I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISCOUNT THAT BENEFIT OF IT. I DO FIND THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE LOBBY GROUP THAT TELLS US HOW GOOD IT IS TO BE PART OF THE LOBBY GROUP. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALMOST HAD TO HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF A DEAL, BUT I AGREE AT 1500, WE'VE PROBABLY SPENT 10 OR $20,000 IN STAFF TIME. HAVING QUESTIONS ANSWERED OVER $1,500. SO FROM AN ROI STANDPOINT, WE'VE GOT TO, WE EITHER GOT TO MAKE A DECISION, I THINK TONIGHT, OR MOVE ON EXCEPT AS PRESENTED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLAREAL, SALVO I'M PROVING NINE FOREST PRESENTED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAY OR APRIL 10TH. JORDAN COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. I ALSO REMEMBER SAID, AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, MAYOR SNYDER, NELSON RIVER VILLA REAL SALVO. I ALSO REMEMBER HOLLAND I MOTION PASSES SIX ONE NEXT WE HAVE ITEM NINE, FIVE [9.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 2022-043 condemning bullying and cyberbullying. (Councilmember Robin Sutton)] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2, 2 DASH 0 4 3, CONDEMNING BULLYING AND CYBER BULLYING. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UM, CAME UP AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE SEVERITY OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND SEXUAL ASSAULT WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAPPENED, UM, DURING THE TENURE OF THE NEXT CITY MANAGER. UM, I BROUGHT UP THE BACK THAT THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF BULLYING AND THREATENING AND, UM, JOB LOSS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME TOO. AND, AND WHILE NOT DOWNPLAYING THE SEVERITY OF, UM, SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT BULLYING AND CYBER BULLYING IS ALSO ABUSE AND IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME. UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW IT ENDED UP IN, UH, IN CONSENT ITEMS BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT AS A CITY AND AS A COUNCIL THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC AND IN TRANSPARENCY. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE [00:30:01] PROBABLY HITTING YOUR KEYBOARD AND SAYING THAT IT IS HYPOCRITICAL FOR ME TO BE ASKING FOR THIS RESOLUTION. UM, AS A CITIZEN, I WAS IN THE, IN THESE SHARES ON END MONTHS ON END, UM, BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019, I SPOKE AT THE PODIUM MULTIPLE TIMES IN ONE MEETING AND DIDN'T LEAVE UNTIL THE MEETING WAS OVER SOMETIMES THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. UM, I WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT FIGHTING FOR HADOW AND I STARTED THE PAGE BY FOR HEDO. I STARTED THAT PAGE AS A CALL TO ACTION TO GET CITIZENS INVOLVED, GET THEM INTO CITY HALL AND TO SHOW THEM THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR CITY, GOVERNMENT SHOW UP. UM, I KNOW MY WORDS AND ACTIONS HURT PEOPLE AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE AND APOLOGIZED TO THEM. UM, AND TO, TO THOSE, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO, UM, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE, UM, SO THAT I CAN SHARE, UM, IN MY SINCERE APOLOGY FOR THE GRIEF I'VE MAY HAVE CAUSED YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WHILE I STOOD AT THAT PODIUM, I'M NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE NOW I'M THE BUTT OF PERSONAL ATTACKS. UM, THE PART OF THE PERSONAL ATTACKS, BECAUSE I STILL CALL BS WHEN I SEE IT AND I HEAR IT AND THAT'S WHO I AM. AND THAT'S THE ROBIN THAT CAME TO THE PODIUM. AND THAT'S THE ROBIN WHO DECIDED TO SIT ON THE DIETS, NO JOY OR PRIDE SHOULD EVER COME FROM HURTING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. NO ONE WHO WANTS TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION OR ON THIS COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE PLEASURE IN THE SITES THAT ATTACK HUMAN BEINGS WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS. THERE IS A WAY TO STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AN EXERCISE, YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, WITHOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS, BULLYING, AND THREATS JUSTICE. WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT AS ACCUSATIONS BEING REPORTED IN CITY HALL. WE ALSO HAD, AND CONTINUE TO HAVE REPORTS OF BULLYING AND THREATENING BEHAVIOR. I'M A VICTIM OF THAT IN JANUARY BY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, OVER AN AGENDA ITEM, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM OUR MYSPACE MISTAKES AND HOLD THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO ACCOUNTABLE THAT ARE BULLYING AND THREATENING OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, THE WORDING THAT WAS USED AGAINST SEXUAL HARASS, HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT, AND EVERYONE SHOULD REPORT IT. AND ANYBODY THAT KNOWS IT AND DOESN'T REPORT IT IS CULPABLE. I SAID THAT WHEN I STOOD UP FOR EMILY PARKS, WHEN WE SETTLED HER LAWSUIT AGAINST OUR EX CITY MANAGER, I TOLD EVERYONE SITTING ON THIS DIOCESE, THAT IF YOU KNEW THIS PERSON WAS CAPABLE OF THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR, YOU ARE COPEABLE. YOU CAN CONDEMN THE ACT WITHOUT TAKING AWAY SOMEONE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. SO BEEN IN HADOW 23 YEARS. AND WHY, WHEN I HEAR CITIZENS SAY, THEY'RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT. THEY'RE AFRAID TO PUT A SIGN OF A CANDIDATE IN THEIR YARD, AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO APPLY FOR A BORDER COMMISSION OR EVEN RUN FOR OFFICE. THAT'S DISGUSTING. HADOW DESERVES BETTER AND HADOW CAN DO BETTER. AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS A COUNCIL AND MIRROR THAT LEADERSHIP. IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, WE ARE FAILING EVERYONE THAT SITS UP HERE IS FAILING. IF WE DON'T STOP THIS NONSENSE AND THIS HATE THAT IS SEPARATING OUR TOWN APART AND SCARING PEOPLE FOR STANDING UP FOR THEMSELVES. AND NOW IF Y'ALL MAY, LET ME READ THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME IN AND IF IT'S ON CONSENT, MAYBE THEY DON'T READ IT OR HEAR IT JUST AS WE READ THE HARASSMENT AND SEXUAL ASSAULT RESOLUTION. WHEREAS ALL CITY EMPLOYEES ARE ENTITLED TO A WORKPLACE FREE OF UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT BY MANAGEMENT SUPERVISORS, COWORKERS, CITIZENS, AND VENDORS. AND WHEREAS THE CITY PROHIBITS HARASSMENT BASED ON RACE, RELIGION, COLOR, SEX, NATIONAL ORIGIN, ACE, DISCIPLINE, RACE, AGE, DISABILITY, MARITAL STATUS, VETERAN STATUS, CITIZENSHIP, GENETIC INFORMATION, OR ANY OTHER CHARACTERISTIC PROTECTED BY LAW. AND WE'RE AS BULLYING AND CYBER BULLYING ARE HARMFUL WITHIN THE WORKING ENVIRONMENT. AND WHEREAS CITY PERSONNEL POLICIES PROHIBIT VERBAL OR PHYSICAL CONDUCT THAT SINGLES OUT DENIGRATES OR SHOWS HOSTILITY OR AVERSION TOWARDS SOMEONE BECAUSE OF RACE, RELIGION, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, AGE, DISABILITY, VETERANS, DALIT STATUS CITIZENSHIP, OR ANY OTHER CHARACTERISTIC PROTECTED BY LAW [00:35:01] PROHIBITED CONDUCT INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO EPITAXY SLURS AND NEGATIVE STEREOTYPING, THREATENING, INTIMIDATING, OR HOSTILE CONDUCT, DENIGRATING JOKES AND COMMENTS AND WRITINGS OR PICTURES THAT SINGLE OUT DENIGRATE OR SHOW HOSTILITY OR AVERSION TOWARDS SOMEONE BASED ON A PROTECTED CHARACTERISTIC AND WHERE AS THE CITY'S PERSONNEL POLICIES REQUIRE REPORTING OF SUCH CONDUCT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE AS THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE, GENERALLY DEFINES BULLYING AS A SINGLE SIGNIFICANT ACT OR PATTERN OR ACTS BY ONE OR MORE INDIVIDUALS DIRECTED AT ANOTHER THAT EXPLOITS AN IMBALANCE OF POWER AND INVOLVES ENGAGING IN WRITTEN OR VERBAL EXPRESSION EXPRESSION THROUGH ELECTRONIC MEANS OR PHYSICAL CONDUCT. AND THAT HAS THE EFFECT, OR WILL HAVE THE EFFECT OF PHYSICALLY HARMING AN INDIVIDUAL DAMNING AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY, OR PLACING AN INDIVIDUAL, AN INDIVIDUAL IN REASONABLE FEAR OR HARM TO THE INDIVIDUALS PERSON OR A DAMAGE TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY, OR IS SUFFICIENTLY SEVERE PERSISTENT OR PERVASIVE ENOUGH THAT THE ACTION OR THREAT CREATES AN INTIMIDATING THREATENING OR ABUSIVE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL INCLUDES CYBER BULLYING. AND WHEREAS CYBER BULLYING IS BULLYING THAT INVOLVES THE USE OF AN ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION DEVICE, INCLUDING THE USE OF A CELLULAR OR OTHER TYPE OF TELEPHONE, A COMPUTER, A CAMERA, ELECTRONIC MAIL, INSTANT MESSAGING, TEXT MESSAGING, A SOCIAL MEDIA APPLICATION AND INTERNET WEBSITE, OR ANY OTHER INTERNET BASED COMMUNICATION TOOL. AND WE'RE AS ELEMENTARY STUDENTS WHO ARE BULLIED OR FOUR TIMES AS LIKELY AS ANOTHER OTHER STUDENT TO STAY, THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY FEEL AFRAID OR UNSAFE. WHEREAS NEARLY ONE QUARTER OF 10TH GRADERS WHO REPORTED BEING BULLIED ALSO REPORTED HAVING MADE A SUICIDE ATTEMPT IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS. AND WE'RE A SUICIDE IS THE 10TH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG INDIVIDUALS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 TO 34. AND WHEREAS BETWEEN 1999 AND 2018, THE SUICIDE RATE IN THE UNITED STATES TO INCREASE 35% FROM 10.5 SUICIDES TO 14.2. SO SUICIDES FOR EVERY 100,000 INDIVIDUALS. AND WHEREAS IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION, 400 SUICIDE ATTEMPTS EACH YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS MORE THAN HALF OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DIE BY SUICIDE DID NOT HAVE A KNOWN MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION. AND WHEREAS ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS OF DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, MANY FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO SUICIDE AMONG INDIVIDUALS WITH, AND WITHOUT KNOWN MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, INCLUDING CHALLENGES RELATED TO RELATIONSHIPS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND STRESS REGARDING WORK, MONEY AND LEGAL PROBLEMS OR HOUSING. I'M ALMOST DONE WHEREAS PAST AND PRESENT ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS MAY HAVE FAILED TO REPORT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO ERADICATE SUCH CONDUCT FROM THE WORKPLACE. AND WE'RE AS THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AND SUICIDE, SUICIDE ABILITY, HINDER SUICIDE PREVENTION BY DISCOURAGING AT-RISK INDIVIDUALS FROM SEEKING LIFE-SAVING HELP AND CAN FURTHER TRAUMATIZED SURVIVORS OF SUICIDE LOSS AND AN INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVED EXPERIENCE OF SUICIDE. WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL DESIRES TO CONTINUE TO PROHIBIT SUCH CONDUCT CON CONDUCT FOR ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND REQUIRE THE REPORTING OF SUCH CONTACT OF ANY ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER. AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL DESIRES TO RECOGNIZE SUICIDE AS A SERIOUS AND PREVENTABLE PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE CITY NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HEDO TEXAS. THAT SECTION ONE, THE FINDINGS SET FORTH IN THE RECITALS OF THIS RESOLUTION ARE HEREBY FOUND TO BE TRUE AND CORRECT. AND HEREBY ADOPTED AS FINDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE BODY OF THIS RESOLUTION AT SPOOLIE SET FORTH HERE IN SECTION TWO, THE CITY COUNCIL HEREBY CONDEMNS BULLYING, CYBER BULLYING, AND ALL OTHER FORMS OF UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE AND BY ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND REQUIRES THE REPORTING OF SUCH CONDUCT RECOGNIZES SUICIDE, A SERIOUS AND PREVENTABLE HEALTH PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE CITY AND SUPPORT STRATEGIES TO INCREASE ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY MENTAL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION SERVICES, AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER TREATMENTS. SECTION THREE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL REQUIRE TRAINING IN THE PREVENTION AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF BULLYING, CYBER BULLYING, AND OTHER FORMS OF UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT PER ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS. AND THE CITY MANAGER SHALL REQUIRE TRAINING IN THE PREVENTION AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF BULLYING, CYBER BULLYING, AND OTHER FORMS OF UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT PER CITY EMPLOYEES SECTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY FINES AND DECLARES THAT WRITTEN NOTICE OF THIS DATE, OUR PLACE AND SUBJECT OF THIS MEANING [00:40:01] AT WHICH THIS RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED WAS POSTED. AND THAT SUCH MEETING WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW AT ALL TIMES, DURING WHICH THIS RESOLUTION AND SUBJECT MATTER HERE WERE DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED AND FORMALLY ACTED UPON ALL AS REQUIRED BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER BY FIVE, ONE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED SECTION FIVE, THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY FROM AND AFTER ITS PASSAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SETTING FOR PULLING THIS OUT OF CONSENT. I AGREE. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN CONSENT, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. UH, THOSE OF US SITTING UP HERE ALONG WITH OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEMBERS AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD, ET CETERA, IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE LEADERS. AND, UM, IF OUR BEHAVIOR ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR BEHAVIOR PUBLICLY BEHIND THE SCENES, TALKING WITH OUR FRIENDS IS THAT WHICH ISN'T HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. THEN THAT CULTURE WILL PERMEATE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S BEEN A SHAME. I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT THIS EVEN HAS TO BE FORMALIZED. UM, WE'RE ALL ADULTS AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, GLASS STONES AT GLASS HOUSES IS WHAT I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. AND IT'S, IT'S BECOME VERY EASY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA TO BULLY OTHER PEOPLE. AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY BEHIND IT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I TEND TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA AS A PLACE TO DROP INFORMATION. AND THEN I WALK AWAY THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT WAYS OF CONTACTING OR MULTIPLE WAYS OF CONTACTING EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP HERE AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CITY AND TO COMPLAIN AND HARASS A COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO YOU ON FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM WHEN YOUR QUESTIONS ARE HOSTILE AND WHEN YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY ATTACKED THEM PERSONALLY. UM, IF THE QUESTION IS IMPORTANT TO GET ANSWERED, YOU CAN EMAIL US, YOU CAN CALL US, YOU CAN COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND DO A PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO EXPRESS YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. AND I ENCOURAGE THAT. UM, RIGHT NOW THE, THIS COMMUNITY IS HURTING WITH A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. AND UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE ITSELF AFTER COUNCIL MEETINGS, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT ONE ANOTHER IN DEROGATORY TERMS AND ALLOWING PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO TALK BADLY AND NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE JOB AS LEADERS TO CALL IT OUT AND SAY SOMETHING. AND IF WE DON'T, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED WHEN THE YOUNG ADULTS AND THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE ACTING OUT GRAFFITI IN OUR BATHROOMS THAT OUR CITY PARKS, I ALWAYS SAY WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR CHILDREN THESE DAYS? WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE ADULTS AND THE ACTIONS THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING. UM, I SAY IT A LOT CULTURE EATS STRATEGY FOR BREAKFAST, AND THAT CULTURE STARTS AT THE TOP. AND WHEN IT COMES TO CITY, UM, BEHAVIORS, WE'RE PART OF THAT TOP OF THE PYRAMID. AND, UH, I'M GLAD THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON AND I HAVE BOTH EXPERIENCED A LOT WITH, WITH BULLYING, UM, BEFORE WE WERE EVER INVOLVED WITH POLITICS, UM, IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES. AND SO IT DOES HIT HOME AS WELL AS FOR BOTH OF US. SO DID THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HARASSMENT RESOLUTION. SO I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT AGAIN, WE'RE FORMALIZING THIS AND I AM THANKFUL THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SAT AND TOOK THE TIME TO READ THE RESOLUTION OUT LOUD AND, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY. I HOPE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO, OR TAKE A MOMENT TO, TO READ THE RESOLUTION IN ITS ENTIRETY AND, AND MAYBE CONSIDER, TAKE MOMENTS OF IT, OF IT A WAY AND CONSIDER HOW YOU CAN ALSO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENACT UP HERE. UM, CAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE DISTRACTING FROM THE WORK OF THE CITY AND FROM THE, THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE CAN ALL ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER. SO, UM, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SAID MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON, ANYTHING THAT I THINK THE RESOLUTION PRETTY MUCH SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND READING IT OUT LOUD WAS JUST A GOOD IDEA. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. [00:45:02] PLEASE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. I KNOW. UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN A LOT OF, UM, STRESS ON THE DIOCESE. I MEAN, TO THE POINT TO WHERE, I MEAN, UH, I TOTALLY GET IT WITH DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO BLOCK ONE FROM MESSAGING ME DUE TO THINGS. AND SO I, I GET IT AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT. UM, SO I THINK AS A WORD I LEARNED PERFORMATIVE, IT'S ONE THING TO DO THIS RESOLUTION. IT'S ANOTHER TO HAVE IT TO WHERE WE AS COUNCIL LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL, SALVO SAID, WE SET THE STANDARD, THE BACK CHANNELING, THE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC, UM, BEHIND EVERYBODY, THE UNDERMINING OF EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IN DECISION, THE STUFF'S GOT TO STOP. UM, I HAD A GREAT, UM, A GREAT DEAL THAT, UM, UH, A CITIZEN SENT ME AND HE BASICALLY SAID, HOW CAN AS A COMMUNITY? HE SAID, HOW CAN THE COUNCIL GET ALONG WHEN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET ALONG? BECAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEONE GETS MAD, THEY START A NEW FACEBOOK PAGE. AND SO WE HAVE A 2 0 3, OH, WE HAVE 2, 4 0 5 OH AND 8 0 2 TEXAS NEIGHBORS. AND SO THEY'RE ALL PART OF SOMEONE LEADING. IT IS ALL GOT SOMETHING WE GOT TO FIGHT FOR HUDDLE WE FORMED. AND SO WE HAVE ALL THESE, I THINK NOW IT'S FIGHT FOR BETTER HUDDLE OR FIGHT FOR ANOTHER HUDDLE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT CHANGED TO, BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS AND ALL REPRESENTED BY A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND SO, UM, I THINK THE MORE WE CAN GET A GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND, UM, FOLLOW LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SET SAID, THE EXPECTATIONS, UH, FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM, NOT THE PERSON. THEN I THINK YOU'LL SEE A CHANGE IN A PUBLIC, BUT UNTIL WE SET THE STANDARD, I DON'T THINK IT CAN HAPPEN, BUT IT COULD BE WRONG. SO CUSTOMER GORDON, UH, NO, I, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, UH, THE RESOLUTION. I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY WITH CYBER BULLYING. I'VE SEEN A VAST INCREASE IN THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I AVOIDED FACEBOOK. UM, I WAS NOT ON IT AND ONLY GOT INTO IT BECAUSE I GOT INTO POLITICS, WHICH IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS. UM, I USED TO TELL PEOPLE, WE DON'T USE THE F WORD IN MY FAMILY AND THAT WAS FACEBOOK AND WE STEERED AWAY FROM IT AND WE GOT ON AND I GOT ON IT. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART I REGRET IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO STAY UP WITH FAMILY, BUT THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HORRIBLE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO, UH, TO ENGAGE IN THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY. AND IT'S VERY TEMPTING, UH, TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND WE JUST NEED TO KINDA LEARN TO CONTROL OURSELVES AND TEACH OUR CHILDREN AND TEACH EACH OTHER BY EXAMPLE, UM, NOT TO RETALIATE WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY HAD TO TRY TO LEARN AND TRY TO EMULATE AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE THOSE EXAMPLES FOR PEOPLE. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S WHERE MACKENZIE, UM, DEFINITELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER SET. AND I REALLY THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND HONESTLY, IT'S JUST BECOME OF OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. IT REALLY IS. I MEAN, SOCIAL MEDIA AND IT'S, IT'S A GREAT WAY. IT JUST COUNSELING FOR HALL AND SAID, I MEAN, IT'S CAN BE A HUGE BENEFIT AND ALSO GREAT DETRIMENT. UM, I THINK PETER'S PROBABLY THE SMARTEST ONE AT ALL, STAYING OFF OF IT FOR AS LONG AS HE COULD. UM, UH, BUT I DO WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT IT DOES TRICKLE DOWN FROM US. SO BEING A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU DO HAVE TO SET THE BAR, SET THE STANDARD AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HAVING A PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR. AND WE'RE ALL, OF COURSE ENTITLED TO OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS, BUT WHAT WE POST, UM, DEFINITELY CARRIES WEIGHT. AND ONCE YOU POST IT, IT'S THERE FOREVER. IT CAN'T BE DELETED. UM, SOMETHING THAT, UM, STRUCK ME AS ODD WHENEVER I RAN, UM, I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND SAY, WOW, THAT WAS THE CLEANEST ELECTION HADOW HAS EVER HAD. THAT. THAT WAS THE, THE, JUST THE MUDSLINGING JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN. UM, AND I KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ELECTION SEASON, EVERYTHING IS ON A HEIGHTENED AWARENESS AND EVERYONE AND TRYING TO VIE FOR MY POSITION, YOUR POSITION, THEIR POSITION. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT LINE DEFINITELY DOES COME TO QUESTION A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IS THIS INFORMATIVE, IS THIS BACK-CHANNELING IS WHAT, WHAT'S THE REAL REASON BEHIND IT. UM, SO I, I JUST THINK THAT IT IS, UM, AS A SAD REALITY THAT EVERYBODY AND HOW TO ROLLS THEIR EYES AND IT'S ELECTION SEASON. AND HONESTLY THEY TURN IT OFF. A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST COMPLETELY TUNE OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S, WHAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY SAD. UM, SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY, MY OPINION ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO CALL SOMEONE OUT, INCLUDING OURSELVES OR EACH OTHER, WE HAVE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. UM, AND IT, IT TRULY STARTS WITH US. UM, SO I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, SUTTON, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND SAID A LOT OF REALLY GREAT POINTS ABOUT PEOPLE WATCHING AND, UM, MAYBE AREN'T SUPER VOCAL, BUT THE CITY [00:50:01] AND THE CITIZENS OF HOW-TO DO WATCH AND THEY DO READ AND ONLY A PINPRICK ARE ACTUALLY TYPING THINGS OUT AND EVEN SMALLER PINPRICK ARE ACTUALLY COMING HERE AND SPEAKING. SO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT MENTALITY AND CULTURE NEEDS TO CHANGE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, TO HAVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE, SPEAK ABOUT THIS, UM, SAYS VOLUMES FOR, UM, HOW, HOW SERIOUS WE FEEL THAT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IS. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE CAN DO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, AND HOPEFULLY SOME CITIZENS COULD DO IS DON'T BE REACTIONARY. UM, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE SAYING SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, DON'T PUT IT ON FACEBOOK, CALL THEM GOOD CHANCE. THEY WON'T HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU BECAUSE THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IS BEHIND THEIR KEYBOARD OR BEHIND THEIR SCREEN. SO, UM, CAN WE FIX IT ALL? PROBABLY NOT. UM, CAN WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OURSELVES? IT'S ON US TO DO THAT. AND, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO THE HUDDLE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STUFF WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS THAT YOU HEAR AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S EVERYWHERE, UM, ALL ORGANIZATIONS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT EACH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ALL ARE A PART OF, UM, IF YOU'RE A PART OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER THE CHAIR OR THE PRESIDENT OR WHATEVER, IS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ABOUT THIS AND REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR ONCE AS A COMMUNITY AND SAY, WE WANT THINGS BETTER THAN THIS. ALL RIGHT. WITH EVERYBODY SPEAKING, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT NINE FIVE AS PRESENTED THE SECOND AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL SALVO, APPROVING ITEM NINE, FIVE AS PRESENTED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAYOR SCHNEIDER, MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON COUNCIL MEMBER, GORDON HELSON MEMBER SETTING. I ALSO REMEMBER KINSEY. I ALSO REMEMBER VILLA REAL SALVO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THE NEXT STEP BRINGS US TO ITEM 10, [10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 2022-041 approving an agreement for Basketball Court Lighting at Hutto Lake Park, Fritz Park, and Hutto Community Park with Musco Sports Lighting, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $106,200.00 through BuyBoard Contract No. 592-19; and authorizing the Interim City Manager to execute the Agreement. (Jeff White, Parks Superintendent)] ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2 2 DASH 0 4 1 APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR BASKETBALL COURT LIGHTING AT HUDDLE LIGHT PARK, FRITZ PARK, AND HOW-TO COMMUNITY PARK WITH MUSCOW SPORTS LIGHTING, LLC IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 100, $6,200 THROUGH BUYBOARD CONTRACT NUMBER 5 9 2 DASH ONE NINE, AND AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. JEFF, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME. I HAVE A FROG IN MY THROAT THERE I'M JEFF WHITE PARK SUPERINTENDENT BASKETBALL COURTS, OR A POPULAR FEATURE AT HADOW LAKE, UH, LAKE A COMMUNITY AND FRITZ BARK. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TONIGHT TO GET THESE COURSES. I DID A PETITION WAS INITIATED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN LATE 2021, UH, REQUESTING THIS ITEM. WE HAD 655 SIGNATURES SUPPORT. THIS REQUEST. THIS IS A BUYBOARD QUOTE BUYBOARD IS A NATIONAL, UH, PURCHASING COOPERATIVE THAT THAT'S ALL THE PROCESSES FOR BIDDING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAWS. UH, WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THIS AGREEMENT WITH MACKOW LIGHTING. UH, INTERESTING FACT, MOSQUITO IS THE LEADER IN THIS AREA AND THEY LIKED EIGHT OUT OF 10 COURTS OR FIELDS IN THE UNITED STATES. CAN WE JUST LET THAT SINK IN? THAT'S A LOT. SO THEY ARE A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD. THEY DO PRO SPORTS, COLLEGIATE SPORTS PARKS, AND EVEN THE OLYMPICS. UH, THESE LIGHTS WILL BE AN LED LIGHTS THAT WERE SHINING DIRECTLY ON THE COURT. THEY HAVE SHADES AND SHIELDS IN PLACE THAT PREVENT IT FROM GOING TO HAVE STRICTLY ACCESS HEIGHT. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE SHINING IN THE NEIGHBOR'S WINDOWS, UM, MIGHT HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS HAD BEEN A PRIORITY FROM THE PUBLIC PARKS BOARD, AND EVEN THIS COUNCIL, UH, BASKETBALL IS A GREAT WAY TO BE FISCALLY FIT. AND IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, YOUNG AND [00:55:01] OLD TO STAY ACTIVE OUTDOORS, UH, FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT WILL COME THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUND. THIS BID INCLUDES INSTANT LIGHTING. THEY JUST COME ON, NO NEED TO WARM UP. SO IF YOU'RE OLD SCHOOL LIKE ME, YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON. THEY GOTTA WAIT FOR HIM TO WARM UP. THESE ARE JUST LIKE THE LIGHTS IN HERE. THEY JUST TURN ON. THEY COME ON INSTANTLY, UH, PUSH BUTTON ACTIVATION. THAT MEANS THE LIGHTS WON'T BE ON ALL THE TIME. ONLY BE USED WHEN THE USERS HIT THE BUTTON AND THEY'LL GO TYPICALLY AN HOUR AND THEN IT'LL SHUT OFF. UH, WE HAVE CLOUD-BASED APP THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FOR HOME SHRUNK. SO OUR STAFF IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS. IT GIVES US KIND OF OVERRIDE AUTHORITY. SO IF, UM, IF WE KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A SNOWBIRD 20, 20, WHATEVER, COME AGAIN, WE KNOW NOBODY'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE. WE'LL JUST TURN THE LIGHTS OFF SO NOBODY CAN GO UP AND HIT THEM AND TURN THEM ON. YOU KNOW, UM, IT ALSO COMES WITH 24 AN HOUR, A DAY MONITORING FROM MOSCOW AND ALERT STAFF AT ANY CONCERNS. WE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD AN ISSUE EARLIER THIS YEAR AT, AT, AT HOME AND WE HAD A, UM, ONE OF THOSE STORMS CAME THROUGH AND TIPPERARY KNOCKED OUR POWER OFF. UH, I GOT 25 EMAILS WITHIN A MATTER OF AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING, HEY, SOMETHING'S WRONG, SOMETHING'S WRONG, SOMETHING'S WRONG? AND SO WE INITIATED THAT PROTOCOL AT BEST. YEAH. I THINK IT COMES WITH A 25 YEAR WARRANTY. SO THEY WILL MAINTAIN PARTS FOR THIS FOR 25 YEARS. THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. UM, IF APPROVED, WE CAN GET ON THEIR SCHEDULE AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH A LATE SUMMER OR EARLY FALL INSTALLATION DATE. AND THAT KIND OF CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DID YOU GUYS WANT TO, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEAK, I JUST NEED TO FILL OUT A FORM. OKAY. SO YOU MANAGER, I JUST WANTED TO SAY CREDIT FOR THIS GOES TO JEFF AND MATT AND ANGIE. SO THANK YOU, JEFF. WE'LL START WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. WELL, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, JEFF. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING THIS TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION AND JUMPING INTO THE PROCESS. I KNOW I HAVEN'T MET YOU GUYS BEFORE. WE KNOW YOU'VE MET SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AS YOU WENT THROUGH THIS, APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP AT MEETINGS, MAKING YOUR CASE, BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION, UM, AND GETTING INVOLVED. AND I HOPE THAT THIS ISN'T THE LAST TIME YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ISSUE. I HOPE YOU FIND OTHER WAYS TO GET INVOLVED GOING FORWARD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS OUT THERE PLAYING, UH, PLAYING BASKETBALL IN THE FALL. LET ME GET THESE LIGHTS UP, THEIR CUSTOMER VILLAREAL SILVA, UM, TO ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AGAIN. I KNOW FOR SOME OF YOU, THIS IS YOUR THIRD TIME TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING OR PARKS MEETING. AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S AWESOME JUST TO SEE OUR YOUNG ADULTS PARTICIPATING IN THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE FOCUSING ON UP HERE, ESPECIALLY WHILE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING BACK INTO FULL OPERATIONS AND, UM, TO JEFF AND ANGIE'S AND, UH, AND MATT, THANK YOU GUYS FOR MAKING THIS A PRIORITY. UM, I KNOW OUR PARKS BOARD HAS, HAS REALLY, SINCE WE HEARD FROM THE YOUNG GENTLEMEN THAT CAME INTO BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY, EVERY SINGLE PARK'S BOARD MEETING AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT MOVE VERY SLOW, UM, WHICH I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE NOW COME TO UNDERSTAND. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROCESSES THAT WE ARE BOUND TO FOLLOW BY STATE LAW, FEDERAL LAW, AND LOCAL, UM, ORDINANCE. SO, UM, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR INCREDIBLE KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF, UH, DOING THIS, IT WOULD TAKE EVEN LONGER. UM, SO GUYS, I, I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT'S JUST, UM, AN INDICATION OF HOW OUR PARKS ARE MOVING FORWARD AND BECOMING A PLACE FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY SPEND TIME AND, UM, RELAX AND HADOW, AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO ROUND ROCK AND ALL THOSE OTHER CITIES THAT WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO, UM, THANK YOU, MATT. I APPRECIATE IT. SORRY, JEFF AND, AND ANGIE. YEAH, WELL SECOND WHAT THEY SAID, I'M EXCITED FOR THE LIGHTS, BUT I'M MORE EXCITED TO SEE THAT, UM, WHAT STARTED OFF AS A CONVERSATION QUICKLY LED TO AN ONLINE, UM, I FORGOT WHAT THE PETITION WEBSITE WAS, BUT, AND THEN WE HAD THESE GUYS THAT WERE TAKEN UPON THEMSELVES AND YOU GUYS WERE SHARING IT ON DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND GETTING THE WORD GOING AND THEN SHOWING UP AT MEETINGS. AND SO, UM, I QUIT THE MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, UM, WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE, UNFORTUNATELY IN GOVERNMENT, AS I TOLD YOU GUYS THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT DONE, UM, IT'S EASY TO GET INVOLVED AND TO SHOW. AND THEN, UM, THAT'S USUALLY HOW YOU GET COUNCILS, UH, COUNTY COUNTY COMMISSIONER. OF COURSE YOU GET INVOLVED IN FIXING, SO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE. YOUR EFFORT SHOWS A LOT FOR SOME GUYS IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WANT LIGHTS ENOUGH TO SPEND THEIR EVENINGS [01:00:01] MESS AROUND WITH US. SO THANKS GORDON. UH, YEAH, I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD HOW MANY SIGNATURES OVER 600, UH, 655 AS OF THIS MORNING. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. AND WHO HEADED THAT UP? WAS IT THESE GUYS HERE THAT DID THAT? SO VERY IMPRESSIVE. AND THEN ALSO IF I READ THIS RIGHT, UM, THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUND. YES, SIR. IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT USE OF THAT MONEY THAT WE GET FROM DEVELOPERS WHO GIVE US MONEY TO IMPROVE OUR PARKS. AND SO THIS ISN'T COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET, BUT IT'S COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT HELPS PAY FOR ITSELF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT. SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT. CAUSE FOR MCKINSEY, YEAH. THAT'S UM, THE FUNDING COMING FROM AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF IS KIND OF THE, NOT SO MUCH FUN SIDE OF THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. UM, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. UM, SO YEAH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL AND RECORDING. THIS IS A GREAT USE OF THAT, UM, MONEY AND FUNDS AND IT WILL BE IN HOPEFULLY BEGINNING OF FALL. SO JUST WHEN THE DAYS GET A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO BE OUT THERE LONGER. UM, I DRIVE BY A HOW TO LIKE PARK EVERY DAY ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK. UM, AND THERE IS ALMOST ALWAYS A GROUP I'M OUT THERE PLAYING BASKETBALL. AND I REMEMBER, UM, MR. HAMAR, THE OLD CITY MANAGER, WARREN HOT MOCKERY, SHE'LL ALWAYS SAY, OH, WELL THEY WOULD, THEY NEED SHADES OUT THERE. NOBODY PLAYS OUT THERE IN A HUNDRED DEGREE WEATHER THEY'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY. SO I THIS'LL BE, THIS WILL GIVE THEM SOME, UH, ABILITY TO PLAY, WHATEVER IT COOLS OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL HAVE LIGHTING TO BE ABLE TO SEE FROM A HOME. THIS IS WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. GOOD JOB. I AGREE WITH EVERYONE. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I LOVE TO SEE THE YOUTH IN ACTION. YOU'RE THE FUTURE AND THIS IS HOW YOU GET THINGS DONE. ENTERTAIN A MOTION AFTER I MOVE TO APPROVE. TEN ONE IS PRESENTED. SECOND QUESTION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER OF VILLAREAL SALVOS SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. PROVING TEN ONE HAS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLA REAL SALVO MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON COUNCIL MEMBER TELL US MEMBER OF HOLLAND I COUNCIL NUMBER SUTTON. I HAVE SOME MEMBER KINSEY. I MAY HAVE SCHNEIDER MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO IT'S GUYS. THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL A MOVE UP. ITEM 12 TO THE FOR REPORT NEXT HEARING NONE. THEN WE'LL GO TO ITEM 12 [12.2. Presentation and possible action of the Annual Comprehensive Finance Report for the year ended September 30, 2021. (Angie Rios)] TO PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCE REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. AS YOU GET EVEN WHEN GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH THIS IS JOHN WATSON FROM BRIX WATSON, THE AUDIT FIRM THAT WAS HIRED TO CONDUCT THE AUDIT. AND HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE RESULTS OF THAT. UM, HE DID PROVIDE YOU WITH A HARD COPY OF THAT FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH IF YOU'D LIKE. SO I WILL, HE DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION STIRRED UP SOME SLIDES BACK AND FORTH. THANK YOU, ANGIE MAYOR COUNCIL. UM, SO WE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE AUDIT OVER THE YEAR, ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. MY NAME IS JOHN WATSON, UM, AUDITOR THAT LED THE AUDIT TEAM. UM, I'LL GO OVER SOME HIGH POINTS OF THE AUDIT, UH, OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AT THE END. CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE ANY, AS I GO FEEL FREE TO INTERJECT AS WELL. SO THE POWERPOINTS HERE YOU'LL HAVE A HANDOUT AS WELL INSIDE YOUR BOUND REPORT. IF YOU FLIP IT OPEN TO THAT FRONT COVER THERE. SO THE AUDIT ITSELF, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AUDIT PROCESS, IT'S A THREE PHASE PROCESS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH US GAS. THAT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS. FIRST PHASE OF THE PLANNING PHASE. THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT CURRENT YEAR RESULTS. WE COMPARE THEM TO PRIOR YEAR AND COMPARE THEM TO OUR EXPECTATIONS HELPS US TO FOCUS ON AREAS WE THINK ARE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO RISK OF ERROR FRAUD IN THE NEXT PHASE IS THE FIELD WORK PHASE WHERE THOSE AREAS WE DETERMINE APPROPRIATE FOR TESTING. WE ACTUALLY TEST, UH, WE SEND CONFIRMATION TO THIRD PARTIES, WE'VE VOUCHED SAMPLES TO EVIDENCE TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RECORDED PROPERLY. AND THAT LEADS TO THE LAST PHASE CONCLUSION REPORTING PHASE. THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD PROPOSE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS. IF THERE ARE ERRORS, UH, DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE ERRORS, THE WHY AS TO WHY THOSE ERRORS HAPPEN, UH, AND THEN HELP PREPARE THIS REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF LETTERS I'LL TOUCH ON IN THE END. SO ANY US GUESTS AUDIT IS GOING TO FOLLOW THAT, UH, GENERAL APPROACH, THE REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, IT'S A SEVEN SECTIONS TO IT. THE [01:05:01] FIRST SECTION IS THE INTRODUCTORY SECTION. A PRIMARY PART OF THAT SECTION IS A LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL THAT'S FOR MANAGEMENT DESCRIBES, UH, PERTINENT DETAILS FOR THE YEAR AND LOOKING FORWARD INFORMATION. SO A GOOD PLACE TO READ ABOUT THAT NEXT SECTION IS THE AUDIT OPINION. SO THAT'S A LET FROM US DESCRIBES WHETHER THE FINANCIALS ARE CONSISTENT WITH US GAP, GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES, OR IF THERE ARE ANY MODIFICATIONS, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT, UH, IN A MINUTE YEAR, UH, SECTION AFTER THAT IS MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS CURRENT YEAR RESULTS COMPARES TO PRIOR YEARS, A GOOD PLACE TO LOOK, SEE HOW, HOW YOUR CITY PERFORMED RELATIVE TO PRIOR YEAR BASIC FINANCIALS FOLLOW THAT THEY'RE PRESENTED ON DIFFERENT BASIS OF ACCOUNTING, A GOVERNMENT WIDE LEVEL, WHICH SHOWS YOUR CAPITAL ASSET ACTIVITY AND YOUR DEBT ACTIVITY, AND THEN A FUND LEVEL, WHICH IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH HOW YOU BUDGET, UH, IN THE BACK OF YOUR REPORT OR THE REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION SECTION. THAT'S GOT YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL SCHEDULE. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU FARED RELATIVE TO YOUR BUDGET. AND WE'LL TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THAT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN YOUR PENSION SCHEDULES, WHICH ARE GOING TO SHOW YOUR PENSION POSITION YEAR OVER YEAR. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. UM, AND THEN THE VERY BACK YOUR REPORT, IT'S THIS STATISTICAL SECTION, GREAT PLACE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF TEN-YEAR TREND INFORMATION. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE CITY OF HUDDLE WAS FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AND SOME OPERATING METRICS TOO, AND SEE WHERE THEY'VE COME TODAY. SO KIND OF A NEAT, UH, AREA IN THE BACK THERE NEEDS TO MEET AT LEAST. SO, UM, SO I MENTIONED TOWARD THE FRONT, UH THAT LETTER FROM US, YOUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR, UH, THE AUDIT OPINION, REALLY BASIS OF WHY WE'RE HIRED AND WHAT WE ATTEST TO, UH, THERE'S FOUR POSSIBLE OUTCOMES YOU COULD RECEIVE, UH, CAN KIND OF SEE BY THIS BASIC COLOR CHART WHAT'S BEST HERE IS UNMODIFIED, UH, MODIFIED WOULD BE SECOND BEST, AND IT GETS PROGRESSIVELY WORSE FROM THERE. THE CITY RECEIVED A MODIFIED OPINION. UH, SO WE'VE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS AGAINST IS, IS THE BEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE OR HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE OVER ALL AREAS, EXCEPT FOR THE EDC, THE ONE AREA IN THE EDC THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO FORM AN UNMODIFIED OPINION. IT RELATED TO THE NOTES RECEIVABLE, THERE WAS A CERTAIN SUPPORT THAT WE REQUESTED THAT COULD NOT BE PROVIDED. SO WE HAD TO QUALIFY OUR REPORT OVER THAT PART. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN YOUR REPORT, UH, WE PROVIDE FULL ASSURANCE, UH, THROUGH THE AUDIT OPINION OVER. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS. SO THIS INFORMATION AGAIN IS AS OF 9 30, 21, AND FOR THE YEAR ENDED THE SAME FIRST BULLET HERE, YOUR TOTAL ASSETS EXCEEDED TOTAL LIABILITIES BY 177 MILLION APPROXIMATELY, UH, INCREASE IN NET POSITION FOR THE YEAR OF 75,414,000. THE MAJORITY OF THAT WERE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM YOUR DEVELOPERS. UM, NEXT THIRD BULLET HERE, CITY'S GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS REPORTED A COMBINED ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 19 MILLION, 87,000, WHICH WAS A DECREASE OF 14,835,000. WE WILL LOOK AT A SLIDE TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHERE THAT CAME FROM AS WELL. UH, FOURTH BULLET HERE, UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABOUT NINE AND A HALF MILLION, WHICH IS 65% OF YOUR ANNUAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, A PRETTY IMPORTANT BENCHMARK, WHICH IS WHY WE HIGHLIGHT IT HERE. UM, THAT'S YOUR MO YOUR, UH, FUND BALANCE. THAT'S NOT EARMARKED OR RESTRICTED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES. UH, WE, WE RECOMMEND AT LEAST THREE MONTHS, THREE TO SIX MONTHS IS IDEAL, WHICH WOULD BE 50%, 65% IS ACTUALLY HIGHER. SO THAT IS A GOOD THING. UH, ONCE YOU RUN UNDER THREE MONTHS, YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE TOO LEAN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. SO IN GOOD POSITION THERE WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO, UH, THIS SLIDE HERE IS A PIE CHART OF YOUR REVENUES ON THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITY SIDE. SO WHERE DID THE REVENUES COME FROM? UH, FIRST BULLET HERE, TOTAL GOVERNMENTAL REVENUES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR WAS 85,661,000 PRIOR YEAR WAS 34,767,000. WE'LL LOOK AT THE COMPONENTS OF THAT IN THE INCREASE, UH, TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES. SECOND BULLET MADE UP 15% OF YOUR TOTAL REVENUES FOR GOVERNMENTAL 12,479,000 PRIOR YEAR WAS CLOSE 12 MILLION, 492,000, UH, SALES TAXES MAKE UP 8%, 6 MILLION, 450, 3000, UH, APPROXIMATELY A MILLION A LITTLE OVER A MILLION INCREASE FROM PRIOR YEAR, WHICH WAS 5 MILLION, 338,000. UM, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN QUITE A FEW CITIES, UH, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BUMP IN SALES TAXES. UH, CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS I MENTIONED AT THE FRONT, UH, WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND I MADE UP A LOT OF YOUR INCREASE IN NET POSSESSION. WE CAN SAY 66%. SO 56,729,000 BIG NUMBER, UH, FOR THE CITY PRIOR YEAR WAS 9.4 MILLION. SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT LED TO THAT BIG INCREASE. WE SEE IN A BULLET ONE HERE, TOTAL CHARGES FOR SERVICES, 7%, UH, IN CURRENT YEAR SIX ABOUT CLOSE TO 6.2 MILLION PRIOR YEAR WAS, UH, CLOSE TO 4.6 MILLION. SO PERMITS INCREASED QUITE A BIT, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR, AS YOU I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE. SO THAT WAS THE REVENUE SIDE. NOW THIS IS, GO [01:10:01] AHEAD, PLEASE. IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS YOU ASK TO SAVE THOSE TO THE END AND THEN JUST KIND OF HIT THEM ALL THE, OKAY. WAITING UNTIL HE'S DONE, THEN WE'LL GO. WE'LL GO IN AN ORDER. THAT'S FINE. I'LL JUST TAKE MY NOTES. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO HERE ARE THE EXPENSES. SO THE OTHER SIDE WAS THE REVENUES HERE. WHERE DID YOU DEPLOY THOSE FUNDS? UH, WE CAN SEE GOVERNMENTAL EXPENSES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR 30,706,000. APPROXIMATELY PRIOR YEAR WAS CLOSE TO 28 MILLION. AND WHAT MADE UP THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE THIRD BULLET DOWN HERE. PUBLIC SAFETY MAKES UP 17%, 5 MILLION, 264,000. UH, PRIOR YEAR WAS FIVE, 5 MILLION, 195,000 PUBLIC WORKS WAS 12%, 3,713,000 PRIOR YEAR WAS 3 MILLION, 970,000. SO SLIGHT DECREASE CITY ADMINISTRATION MADE UP 10% ABOUT 2.9 MILLION PRIOR YEAR. IT WAS 4 MILLION, 359,000, UH, BUSINESS IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 14%, 4 MILLION, 329,000 PRIOR YEAR WAS 3 MILLION, 329,000. AND, UH, INTEREST IN FISCAL CHARGES MADE UP 25%, 7,780,253 PRIOR YEAR WAS, UH, CLOSE TO 5.8 MILLION. UH, SOME OF THAT IS A DEFAULT INTEREST FOR THE COTTONWOOD. UH, I THINK THE PRESTON HOLLOW LOAN. UM, SO SOME OF THAT INCREASED IN INTEREST RATE WITH THAT DEFAULT, UH, LED TO A LOT OF THAT INCREASE THERE. OKAY. SO THAT WAS GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES. THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED LOOK FUN BY FUN. I'M NOT GOING TO KILL YOU WITH THE DETAILS, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD GET A GENERAL PICTURE OF, I MENTIONED THAT THAT A DECREASE OF ABOUT 14 AND A HALF MILLION, AND HERE'S, WHAT'S GOING INTO IT. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE LEFT COLUMN. SO THESE ARE ALL YOUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS WORKING LEFT TO, RIGHT? THE GENERAL FUND IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ACTIVITY OCCURS. WHAT I'VE CIRCLED HERE IS YOUR NET CHANGE. SO REVENUES AT THE TOP, AS YOU WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT EXPENDITURES AND THAT, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL OTHER FINANCING SOURCES, WHICH TYPICALLY ARE TRANSFERS FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS AND THEN THE NET CHANGE. SO JUST WORKING LEFT TO RIGHT ON THIS CIRCLE, I'VE CREATED IN RED, YOUR NET SURPLUS FOR THE YEAR OF THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABOUT FIVE, ABOUT 5.7, 7 MILLION FOR THE YEAR. SO THAT'S, WHAT'S FEEDING INTO THAT 65% I MENTIONED OF THAT UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE. YOU HAD A POSITIVE CHANGE, UH, FROM YOUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES, UH, DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, NO ISSUES THERE OPERATING A SLIGHT SURPLUS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND. IT'S GOING TO BE NEGATIVE UNLESS YOU HAVE A DEBT, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE. SO IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IT'S USING THOSE FUNDS. THAT'S THE NEGATIVE THERE OF 877,000. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE TWENTY-FIVE MILLION 47,000. SO THAT'S, WHAT'S CAUSING THAT, THAT LARGE DECREASE THAT I MENTIONED ON THE FRONT ABOUT 14 AND A HALF MILLION OR WHATEVER IT WAS. UM, A LOT OF THAT IS DEBT, PRINCIPAL, AND INTEREST THAT CAME DUE. UH, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT RELATES TO THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT THE REVENUE SOURCE TO, UH, TO PAY THAT IT, UH, LEADS TO THAT LARGE DEFICIT FOR THE YEAR. OKAY. I MENTIONED BUDGET TO ACTUAL SCHEDULE. THIS IS FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND. UH, SO THERE'S A DETAILED, UH, STATEMENT IN TOWARD THE BACK OF YOUR REPORT, UH, PAGES 96 AND 97. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY LEFT COLUMN IS YOUR FINAL BUDGET. SO THIS IS YOUR ORIGINAL BUDGET WITH ALL AMENDMENTS AND THEN THE MIDDLE IS THE ACTUAL, SO WHAT WERE THE ACTUAL RESULTS? AND THEN THE RIGHT IS THE VARIANCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND ACTUAL, UH, JUST WORKING TOP TO BOTTOM TOP, RIGHT TO BOTTOM, RIGHT. UH, WE CAN SEE TOTAL REVENUES BUDGETED, 18.7 MILLION, UH, YOUR ACTUAL WORK 21,486,000. THAT WAS A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF ABOUT 2.7 MILLION SALES TAXES, WHERE WE'RE A BIG CONTRIBUTOR THERE, AS WELL AS PERMITS, BOTH EXCEEDED YOUR BUDGET BY QUITE A BIT, UM, EXPENDITURES. WE CAN SEE WE'RE BUDGETED WAS ABOUT 17.4 MILLION ACTUAL CAME IN ABOUT 14 AND A HALF MILLION THAT LED TO A POSITIVE VARIANCE WHERE EXPENDITURES WERE LESS THAN ANTICIPATED OF ABOUT 2.8 MILLION. UH, THAT WAS EVERY, EVERY, UH, DEPARTMENT WAS UNDER BUDGET. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT LED TO THAT THERE. UM, AND THEN, SO THIS FED IN, IN ADDITION TO THE TRANSFERS OUT AND OTHER FINANCING SOURCES, THIS FED INTO THE POSITIVE OVERALL BUDGET VARIANCE OF 4 MILLION, 474,000 FOR THE YEAR. OKAY. SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION RELATED TO YOUR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES, AND I ONLY GOT A COUPLE MORE SLIDES FOR YOU. UM, THIS IS YOUR, THESE ARE YOUR PROPRIETARY FUNDS. SO YOUR UTILITY SYSTEM AND YOUR SOLID WASTE, JUST, UH, JUST A QUICK SLIDE ON THIS ACTIVITY FOR THE YEAR. SIMILAR TO THE OTHER PRESENTATION, WE'VE GOT OPERATING REVENUES AT THE TOP OPERATING EXPENSES, AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE NET CHANGE. IF THESE ARE EVER OPERATING AT A DEFICIT, THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE SOMETIMES A LOT OF WATER RATES STUDY, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT WE'RE NOT CHARGING ENOUGH OR WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH. UM, SO WE LOOK FOR LOOK AT, FOR IT TO BE SELF-FUNDED, THAT'S WHY IT'S A PROPRIETARY FUND. IT SHOULD REALLY FUND ITSELF. UM, AND WE CAN SEE HERE THE NET FOR THE UTILITY SYSTEM AROUND [01:15:01] 5 MILLION. SO IT'S OPERATING OUT OF SURPLUS SOLID WASTE AS WELL, 239,000. SO REALLY NOTHING, NOTHING MORE THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE CONTRIBUTED CAPITAL ASSETS JUST BELOW THE 5 MILLION, 8015.2 MILLION. AGAIN, THAT'S HELPING CONTRIBUTE TO THAT VERY LARGE INCREASE IN NET POSITION FOR THE YEAR. THAT'S JUST THE, UH, THE CONTRIBUTION FOR THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS. ALL RIGHT. SO ALSO MENTIONED EARLY, UH, IN THE BACK IS A SCHEDULE YEAR OVER YEAR OF YOUR PENSION. YOUR PENSION IS VERY WELL-FUNDED, UH, AT THE TOP IS YOUR ESTIMATED PENSION. SO THIS IS WHAT THE ACTUARY GETS PAID TO DO FOR TRS. THEY ESTIMATE WHAT YOUR PENSION LIABILITY IS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE TOTAL PENSION LIABILITY ENDING TOWARD THE MIDDLE THERE, THE BOTTOM SECTION THAT SAYS PLAN FIDUCIARY NET POSITION, THAT'S YOUR ASSET. SO THAT'S A MORE TANGIBLE FIGURE. IT'S NOT ESTIMATED IT'S BASED ON MARKET VALUES. AND WE CAN SEE THE NET AT THE BOTTOM IS JUST A COMPARISON OF THE ASSET AND THE LIABILITY. UH, SO STARTING LEFT IS THE MOST RECENT WORKING RIGHT AS OLDER. SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR CURRENT POSITION IT'S SHOWN IS NEGATIVE 896,000 4 54. IT'S SHOWN AS A NEGATIVE BECAUSE TYPICALLY IT'S A NET PENSION LIABILITY. SO BECAUSE IT'S NEGATIVE, IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING. YOUR ASSET IS GREATER THAN YOUR LIABILITY. UH, YOUR PENSION IS OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED, UH, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. I DON'T SEE IT THAT OFTEN. I SEE IT OCCASIONALLY. UM, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING. UH, NATIONWIDE A STUDY, I LOOKED UP, THIS WAS NATIONWIDE GOVERNMENT PENSIONS, UH, UH, AVERAGE FUNDED POSITION. THIS IS HOW MUCH IS THE ASSET RELATIVE TO THE LIABILITY? 72.6% IS AVERAGE. SO OBVIOUSLY OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT AS WELL, ABOVE AVERAGE, UH, ABOVE A MOODY STUDY. SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OVER 90% IS VERY WELL FUNDED, SO SOMETHING POSITIVE TO TAKE AWAY. IT'S, UH, IT'S IN A GREAT POSITION AND WHERE THAT'S FEEDING THROUGH OUR, YOUR CONTRIBUTION RATES. WE CAN SEE THE LAST BULLET HERE AT THE BOTTOM. UM, SO THAT'S HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE BUDGET. I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES IN, IN LESS, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY AREN'T WELL-FUNDED AS FAR AS THEIR POSITION. AND THEY HAVE TO INCREASE THAT INCREASE, THAT CONTRIBUTION RATE I'VE SEEN AS HIGH AS 26%, WHICH IS 26% OF PAYROLL. SO YOU'RE SITTING AT 12.27% FOR 2021, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY NORMAL AND AVERAGE AS FAR AS WHAT I SEE. OKAY. SO THAT'S A KIND OF A LONG AND SHORT OF THE DETAILS. I WANT TO GO OVER HIGH POINT A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE TWO LETTERS. THESE ARE REQUIRED AUDIT LETTERS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS FROM US AUDIT WAS CONDUCTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ETHICS REQUIREMENTS REGARDING, REGARDING INDEPENDENCE. THERE ARE NO, UH, RELATIONSHIPS OR INDEPENDENCE ISSUES WITH ANYONE FROM OUR FIRM AND THE CITY. UH, NO DIFFICULTIES WERE ENCOUNTERED IN DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT. UH, THEY REALLY DID A GREAT JOB, HONESTLY, IT, UH, I THINK CIRCUMSTANCES OF, OF, OF SOME TURNOVER IN THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT IN PARTICULAR AND JUST THE, AND FOR THE AUDITOR FOR THAT MATTER, UM, WE HAD TO COORDINATE WITH THE PRIOR AUDIT TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION FROM THEM. AND, AND THEN JUST THE, THE NEW STAFF COMING IN, UH, REALLY, UH, CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW GREAT THEY DID TO, TO JUST GET US INFORMATION WHERE WE WERE VERY THOROUGH. I THINK IT MIGHT'VE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, BUT, UM, JUST, JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT CHRISTINA AND ANGIE IN PARTICULAR, JUST DID IT, DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. SO NO DIFFICULTIES IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT BY ALL ACCOUNTS. UM, NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED. UH, THERE ARE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS, THERE'S A LETTER. SO ANYTIME AN AUDITOR HAS AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS, IT NEEDS TO BE IN A LETTER AND IT SHOULD BE PRESENTED WITH IT. YOU ALL HAVE THAT. UH, ALL THOSE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS ARE LISTED THERE. UM, SECOND LETTER COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THE INTERNAL CONTROLS. YOU HAVE A LETTER ON THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE, UH, UM, NATURALLY WE'RE GOING TO COME ACROSS THINGS YEAR OVER YEAR. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LESS AND LESS AS MORE THINGS ARE IMPLEMENTED. UM, BUT AS WE IDENTIFY THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THOSE WITH YOU. THOSE ARE IN THAT LETTER. UM, SO WITH THAT, THAT'S EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SHARE TONIGHT. AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANKS JOHN. THANKS NEXT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER BURRELL SALVO. UM, JOHN, IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A PLEASURE SEEING HOW BROOKS WATSON HAS APPROACHED OUR FINANCES FROM AN AUDIT PERSPECTIVE AND OUR BONDS YEAR OVER YEAR, COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED LAST YEAR FOR THE CAFFER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOW DEDICATED YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH US AS WE'VE BEEN, UM, FIXING A LOT, UNCOVERING A LOT. AND ANGIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE DILIGENT WORK WITH THE TURNOVER AND JUMPING IN, AND REALLY JUST FIGURING THIS OUT, CAUSE IT'S, THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK. UM, I, UH, I'M CURIOUS, LOOKING AT, UM, SO OUR REVENUES AND OUR EXPENSES, ET CETERA, UM, THESE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN UNIQUE YEARS, UH, GLOBALLY. AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WITH THE OTHER [01:20:01] CITIES THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH, OR YOUR FIRM HAS WORKED WITH, IS THIS ABOUT ON-TREND WITH HOW EVERYBODY ELSE'S IS LOOKING OR HAVE WE PERFORMED BETTER? BECAUSE WE, WE KIND OF PUT A HOLD ON ON A LOT OF THINGS FOR A FEW YEARS AND JUST LET THINGS MELD WHAT YOUR OPINION IS ON THAT. YEAH. SO I, AND I MENTIONED IT VERY BRIEFLY SALES TAXES. UM, WE HAVE OBSERVED THEY'VE INCREASED, UM, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE A BETTER BEAT ON THAT THAN, THAN ME, BUT I CAN IMAGINE WHY, BUT YEAH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT. SO REVENUE WISE, UM, WE'VE SEEN MOSTLY A DIP IN SAY COURT REVENUES IN PARTICULAR, A LOT OF THAT'S MORE NEAR THE SHUTDOWN AND IN SOME CITIES EXTENDED THAT LONGER THAN OTHERS, AS FAR AS WHEN THEY FULLY REOPENED COURT, UM, SALES TAXES HAVE BEEN UP FOR, FOR MOST CITIES. UH, UH, SOME HAVEN'T BEEN THE EXPENSES I WOULD SAY ARE REASONABLY UNIQUE. IT'S CLEAR THAT, UH, THIS CITY HAD IMPLEMENTED SOME THINGS TO, TO CONTROL AND CURTAIL EXPENSES. SO THAT PART OF IT WAS DIFFERENT. AND THEN THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, NOW SOME OF IT, SOME OF THIS IS JUST THE STAGE THE CITY IS AT AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE GROWTH YOU ALL ARE EXPERIENCING, OF COURSE WE HAVE OTHER CITIES IN SIMILAR POSITIONS, BUT THAT ALL THOSE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS ARE MASSIVE JUST WITH RESPECT TO NET POSITION. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT AGAIN, THE SALES TAX IS, ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I SEE THE CURTAILING OF EXPENSES I SEE FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT THERE'S NO CONSISTENCY, UH, FROM ONE CITY TO ANOTHER, AS FAR AS THAT. SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE TO YOU, BUT IT CERTAINLY THERE'S OTHER CITIES OUT THERE DOING SIMILAR THINGS, BUT THAT, THAT REALLY FED INTO YOUR VERY POSITIVE, UH, CHANGE IN GENERAL FUND AND THAT UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, UM, IN CREATING THAT RESERVE, ONCE YOU GET THOSE RESERVES DOWN, IT, IT, IT, UH, IT REALLY INHIBITS WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND, AND ALSO, UH, EVENTUALLY WILL IMPACT YOUR CREDIT RATING. SO, UM, IT HITS YOU ON THE BOTTOM LINE, ON YOUR, ON YOUR, ANY NEW BOND ISSUANCES AND THE RATES YOU PAY. SO, YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THE INTERNAL CONTROL MATTERS THAT Y'ALL AT THE END W KIND OF THE, THE, SOME SUMMATION OF EVERYTHING THAT I THINK WE REALLY LOOK AT, UM, IS A OUT OF ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALL VERY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK THEY'RE WONDERFUL. AND I'M CURIOUS HEARING FROM OUR CFO, ANGIE, UH, ARE THESE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO US ABOUT, BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE PRETTY SIMILAR FROM WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ADVISING US. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WAS NEW TO YOU OR THAT IS AS A NEW RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING? NO, IT'S, EVERY EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, THESE WERE KIND OF WHAT WE EXPECTED TO SEE. SO NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY THERE FROM, JUST FROM WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING FROM THE TWO OF YOU, UH, IN YOUR EXPERT OPINION, WHAT OF, WHAT OF THESE INTERNAL CONTROLS IS GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR, UM, FINANCE, NEW FINANCE POLICIES THAT WE'RE DOING? UM, WELL, THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST ONE IS CLOSING PROCESS. UM, WE'D LIKE TO, AND I, IT JUST WITH ANGIE AND CHRISTINA AND THEIR LEVEL OF EXPERTISE, UM, THAT'S NOT BLOWING SMOKE. THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UM, IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER THE TIMING OF WHEN THEY CAME IN, IT WAS A VERY CHALLENGE. IT WAS A CHALLENGE. UM, SO IT'S NOT THAT WE EXPECT THINGS TO BE PERFECT EXPECT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THERE'S A LOT TO INTEGRATE. UM, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF AREAS THAT THEY'RE HANDLING THAT I'M JUST GUESSING MAYBE WEREN'T BEING HANDLED TO SOME DEGREE, MAYBE THE, MAYBE, MAYBE THE AUDITOR WAS COMMONLY, UH, FILLING IN THE GAP. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THIS IS HERE, RIGHT? WE POSTED AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE YOUR FINANCIALS ARE CONSISTENT WITH GAP. UM, BUT WITH THAT WITH TIME, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA KEEP TAKING OVER THOSE AREAS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST BEFORE THE MEETING OF, OF JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING OVER MORE AND MORE IN THEIR INTEGRATING IT. UM, SO THAT'S JUST GOING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER. IT'S, IT'S THE ODDS OF IT BEING PERFECT. I MEAN, IT, IT TAKES TIME. UM, SO, SO THAT ONE IS, IS IMPORTANT TO ME. I THINK IT, AND IT'S, I'M SURE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ANDREA AND CHRISTINA. UM, AND THAT'S SIMPLY JUST, JUST GETTING MORE COVERAGE OVER VARIOUS AREAS AND WORKLOAD WISE, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE. HONESTLY, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, BECAME A LITTLE BIT OF A TEAM EFFORT, UH, JUST, JUST TO GET ALL THE AREAS COVERED TO WHERE WE COULD GET THIS REPORT, UH, WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT AREA TO ME. THE OTHER AREAS THAT BECAME VERY IMPORTANT, UH, FROM THAT OTHER ENGAGEMENT WE HAD WAS KIND OF THOSE CASH MANAGEMENT AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE OTHER CONTROLS, YOU KNOW, POOLED CASH IN GENERAL. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THESE, YOU KNOW, SOME [01:25:01] OF THESE, I, UH, I CAN'T FORGET EVERYTHING I LEARNED FROM THAT, WHICH, WHICH I THINK IS USEFUL. UM, A LOT OF THAT WAS LOOKING OVER OLD INFORMATION THAT, UH, TYPICALLY I WOULDN'T KNOW FOR THIS AUDIT. SO I FOUND IT VERY USEFUL, BUT JUST GETTING BETTER CONTROLS OVER THAT CASH SPENDING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST THOSE DUAL CONTROLS OVER THAT AND MAKING SURE, UM, IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH COUNSEL AND WE'RE NOT RUNNING THOSE NEGATIVE CLAIM ON CASHES AND THOSE TRANSFERS THAT WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT EVENING. UM, SO THAT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO ME, IT, IT, TH THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD TERM, BUT, UM, THAT THE EDC NOTES RECEIVABLE WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE LOVED TO ISSUE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION OVER THE ENTIRE, UH, TIRE FINANCIALS HERE. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS JUST AN INTERESTING PREDICAMENT THERE. SO, UM, IN THE WAY TO LOOK AT THESE TWO THERE'S MATERIAL WEAKNESSES, RIGHT, AND THAT'S THE FIRST SECTION, AND THEN THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES AND THEN THERE'S OTHER MATTERS. UM, SO JUST THINK OF MATERIAL WEAKNESSES AS KIND OF YOUR TOP PRIORITY ITEMS, KNOWING THAT AGAIN, LOOK THE CLOSING PROCESS, THERE'S IT STILL MIGHT BE AROUND, BUT IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET LESS AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THAT, THAT JUST GIVES US MORE TIME TO, TO DO EVEN MORE WORK, UM, IN, IN KIND OF LESS ADJUSTMENTS. SO, YEP. I THINK THE CASH MANAGEMENT IS A BIG ONE FOR US TOO. IT'S IT'S NEEDS TO NOT MONEY COMING IN AND MONEY GOING OUT JUST IN HOW THAT'S ALL HANDLED, HOW IT'S RECORDED, REPORTED, ALL OF THAT. JUST HASN'T BEEN DONE THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON THAT ON OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WORKING WITH OTHER STAFF IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RECORDING ALL OF THE MONEY'S COMING IN CORRECTLY, AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING TURNED IN TIMELY, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEN ALSO TRYING TO COME UP WITH BETTER, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE GOT THE MONEY SEGREGATED, HOW WE'RE REPORTING, ALL THAT KEEPING TRACK OF ALL OF IT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE REPORT THAT TO YOU IN A TIMELY MANNER, UM, STAFFING WAS AN ISSUE. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WELL BEING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CLOSING WAS, YOU KNOW, WITH TWO ACCOUNTANTS AND MYSELF AND NOT A SHORT, YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF TIME TO GET FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON. UM, THOSE THINGS WILL GET BETTER WITH TIME AND WE HAVE ADDED MORE STAFF. SO THAT'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, SOME OF THESE THINGS, NOT JUST THE CLOSING, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES IN THE MANAGEMENT OF SOME OF THIS STUFF DURING THIS YEAR WILL BE BETTER. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THAT GOING FORWARD. SO, AND ON THE EDC ISSUE THEY DID HAVE, UM, SO THEY DID SOME BUSINESS LOANS DURING COVID AND THEY CONTRACTED WITH A COMPANY TO DO THAT. UM, WHEN THEY STOPPED DOING LETTING THE COMPANY HANDLE IT, WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO RECEIVE THE RECORDS BACK FROM THEM, NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT NECESSARILY THE EDC DID WRONG, BUT JUST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE RECORDS TO VALIDATE THOSE LOANS AND THE AMOUNTS AND ALL THAT. SO AUDITORS COULD NOT VOUCH THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT ONE. I KNOW WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON GETTING THAT, UM, RESOLVED, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN JUST AS OF YET. SO, BUT I DON'T FORESEE THAT BEING A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD. WELL, THANK YOU, ANGIE AND JOHN, UM, AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS HEADS AND SHOULDERS ABOVE WHAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF DETAIL AND INFORMATION, AND THEN TO, TO ANGIE IN YOUR TEAM, CITY MANAGER, TURNER, UM, I REALLY COMMEND YOU ALL FOR JUMPING IN AND GETTING THE WORK DONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY CREDIBLE. AND THE WORK YOU DID WITH OUR BOND INFORMATION, I'M GLAD THAT THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT DID ASSIST WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL START BY SAYING, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 21. SO LITERALLY I THINK ANGIE WAS IN POSITION MAYBE TWO MONTHS, SO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS. AND THEN SHE CAME IN AND THEN I THROUGH, HEY, WE NEED A BUDGET IN THREE MONTHS. SO, UM, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IT WHEN THEY READ THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS. THIS ISN'T CURRENT PRACTICES, THIS IS ALL PRACTICES FROM EIGHT MONTHS AGO. SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. UM, CAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE GET FIRED UP ABOUT MONEY. SO I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT? THE BINDER YOU GAVE US THERE? SO ON PAGE 1 43, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. I MEAN, I READ IT, IT FELL ASLEEP A COUPLE OF TIMES WOKE UP, YOU KNOW, FINISHED READING IT. UM, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION, SOMETHING TO CAUGHT MY EYE WAS ON THIS SALES TAX. WHAT MAKES THIS SALES TAX NUMBER B THESE NUMBERS? AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IN 2021, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD A DOWN YEAR IN SALES TAX SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. AND SO THIS SHOWED, UH, ALMOST, UH, LOOK LIKE ABOUT A 9% DROP IN SALES TAX. AND SO I WAS WONDERING, IS, ARE THESE NUMBERS ON PAGE 1 43? DO WE KNOW, ARE THOSE GROSS NUMBERS? ARE THOSE NET AFTER WE DO THREE EIGHTIES AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS? YEAH. IT'S NET OF YOUR THREE EIGHTIES. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF IT WENT DOWN, THAT DOES NOT TO SAY THAT COLLECTIONS WENT DOWN. THAT'S JUST THAT YEAH, IT COULD BE THAT OF A LARGER REIMBURSEMENT THAT'S RIGHT. AND JUST, JUST TYING IT BACK. [01:30:01] I CAN'T, UH, AT LEAST 2021, I CAN VERIFY, I JUST VERIFY THAT NUMBER NOW. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS VERIFIED WHEN WE DID IT, BUT UM, SOME OF THE OLDER, NOT THE NATURE OF PREPARING A REPORT THIS SIZE, WE CARRY FORWARD A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM PRIOR REPORTS. SO, BUT AT LEAST 21 IS, IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS AUDITED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN. AND I'M SORRY, I PRINTED OFF INDIVIDUAL PAGES. AND THEN LOOKING AT THIS SPROUT BOOK, THERE'S A PART ON NOTES THAT FINANCIALS WHEN IT DEALS WITH THE BOND ISSUANCES. YES. AND SO I THINK THE 80 MILLION SERIES, 2010, I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SERIES 2017. WHAT, UH, DO YOU HAVE A PAGE NUMBER? OH YES. WELL, 69 IN THE PACKET, BUT YEAH, LET ME SEE HERE. YEAH. UM, AMOUNT. IT MIGHT JUST BE A NOTE, UH, CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FIX IT IF I AM. RIGHT. AND IF I'M WRONG AS WE CAN, WE CAN FIX IT IN THE ELECTRONIC VERSION. UM, BUT I MIGHT JUST BE A NOTE BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE 80 MILLION IN COS WAS, WAS ISSUED IN 2017. UM, YEAH. SO IT WAS JUST THAT ONE THAT COULD BE A TYPE OF THAT 2010 COULD BE A TYPO. I CAN'T, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU MIGHT KNOW MORE CLEARLY THAN ME OFF, BUT I JUST REMEMBER, CAUSE THAT HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL AND I WAS LIKE, IT WAS BASICALLY SOLD $80 MILLION IN BONDS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH NO DISCUSSION. YES, SIR. I'D ALWAYS STUCK OUT, BUT UM, ALL RIGHT. WE CAN UPDATE THAT BEFORE WE POST IT ONLINE. YEAH. AND THEN I THINK YOU ANSWERED YOUR PRESENTATION IS PRETTY GOOD. CAUSE SOMEBODY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD WRITTEN DOWN, WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL ANSWERED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, LAST I'D JUST SAY IN MY MIND, I THINK OUR CASH BALANCE ISSUE IS GOING TO GO UP EVEN HIGHER. AND I THINK PREDOMINANTLY IT IS BECAUSE DUE TO OUR INABILITY TO SELL ROAD BONDS, WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO PAY IN CASH OR FIGURE THIS OUT. SO HOPEFULLY THE, UH, THE DAYS OF BEING REALLY, UM, TIGHT AND HERE FAIRLY QUICKLY, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T SIT THERE AND SAY, HEY, LET'S HAVE ALL THESE IN, IN PROCESS GOING. SOME OF THEM WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME WHEN WE HAVEN'T, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A PLAN TO WHERE SAY, UM, BY THE END I NOTICED IT'S A PROCESS, BUT WE CAN START A DEAL TO WHERE LIKE HOW SOON COULD WE IMPLEMENT ALL THESE CHANGES? IS THIS LIKE A THREE TO SIX MONTH PROCESS, A SIX MONTH TO 12 MONTH, OBVIOUSLY STAFFING AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE THOUGHT YOU GUYS GOES IN AND ALL THAT MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU GIVE US A MONTH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WE CAN BRING YOU BACK AND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AT THAT TIME. THAT'S ALL I UM, SO A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD YOU ANSWERED, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE MAYOR ASKED FOR ABOUT SALES TAX. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX PROPERTY TAX ALSO WENT DOWN AND IS THAT BECAUSE WE WERE DOING, UM, PROPERTY TAX REBATE DEALS AND WE WERE DOING SOME OF THOSE AND THAT TOOK IT AWAY FROM THEIR REVENUES. YES, SIR. RIGHT. THAT MADE SENSE. AND THEN THE QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT THE EDC, YOU ANSWERED IT WAS REALLY TIED UP IN THAT LOAN DEAL THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING ON. UM, YEAH, I JUST, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT WERE AREAS OF CONCERN JUST SEEMED TO REALLY BE WRAPPED AROUND STAFF, TRYING TO MAKE THINGS MORE CONVENIENT AND MAKING DO WITH THE LOWER STAFF TO THE ADD. THAT IS REALLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMMINGLING THE CASH WAS ONE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, YOU'RE PRINTING OUT CHECKS THAT ALREADY HAD THE SIGNATURES ON 'EM AND PRINTING OUT THE CHECKS WHEN YOU HAVE THE, ALSO THE REPORT, WHICH TEND TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO AVOID MORE CHECKS IF YOU DID THAT WAY. AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS JUST ALL TRYING TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE UNDERSTAFFED, RIGHT? AND SO I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A POINT TO SAY, I'M GOING TO BE VERY STRONGLY SUPPORTING IN OUR NEXT BUDGET THAT WE FULLY FULLY STAFF YOUR DEPARTMENT. I'M GOING TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES IS GOING TO BE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FINANCE CREW IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. AND THEN ONCE YOU DO THAT, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE GOES SMOOTH. AND IF YOU'VE GOT THE MONEY, ALL RIGHT, THEN, THEN YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE MONEY FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO I'M GOING TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I'VE ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE DETAIL THAT WE RECEIVED IN THIS REPORT AND IT WAS GREAT. UM, A LOT OF GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED ALSO WHEN I SAW THE MANAGEMENT REPLIES, IT'S EITHER WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT OR WE HAVE A PLAN TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. COOL. COUNSELOR MCKINSEY. UM, JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER, GORDON SAID, UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, UM, WAS UNDERNEATH, UM, LONG-TERM ASSESS ASSETS, PIDS AND DEBT TRACKING. UM, SO THE WAY THAT I READ THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT EVERYTHING IS STILL PAPER TRAIL, IT'S NOT COMPUTERIZED. [01:35:01] IS THAT ACCURATE? SO KIND OF GOING ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON IS SAYING, AS FAR AS STAFFING WISE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T CONVERTED YET TO A COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS TO HELP AUTOMATE SOME OF THESE PROCESSES. I THINK JUST FURTHER EXACERBATES THE EFFICIENCY ISSUE, THE STREAMLINING ISSUE AND JUST ALL OF THE DUPLICATED EFFORTS THAT'S PROBABLY GOING ON. SO I THINK LOOKING INTO GETTING ONE OF THOSE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO MAKE THAT PROCESS EASIER, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING HOW MANY PIDS WE HAVE BEEN APPROVING AND TRYING TO TRACK ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY'RE 25, 30 YEARS, I MEAN, WE REALLY NEED, UM, A BETTER SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. SO THAT ONE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT STOOD OUT THE MOST TO ME AND SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS BUDGETING AND STAFFING, BUT THAT WAS JUST REALLY CRAZY TO ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE A COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM. UM, AND THEN I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT LOW-HANGING FRUIT. WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO SOON. UM, ONE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THE, THAT WE DIDN'T COLLECT FRANCHISE FEES, UM, ON GARBAGE FROM TEN ONE TO SIX 30. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD MADE ANY HEADWAY ON THAT SENSE, THIS OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS, UM, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I CAUGHT EARLY. AND SO WE ACTUALLY CORRECTED THAT IN OCTOBER. UM, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND THEY, UM, THEY GOT ALL THE REPORTS IN AND KNOW, AND THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH IT SINCE, SO WE'VE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT WE DID RECTIFY THAT. THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S GREAT. ENDED NICELY. UM, AND I TH I THINK THAT OVERALL, I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE WAS VERY PLEASED. WE'RE STARTING TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, HOPEFULLY WITH STARTING TO MOVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, AHEAD. UM, I AM STILL VERY CAUTIOUS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS ALSO GO WITH 37 VACANT POSITIONS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PENSION SURPLUS THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLAYING OUT THE BENEFITS TO THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THERE. UM, SO I, I JUST, I'M A LITTLE, I WANT TO BE VERY OPTIMISTIC AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT BOTTOM DOLLAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE STORY HERE WITH ALL THE VACANT POSITIONS THAT PLAYS LARGELY INTO THAT PART OF THE BUDGET, UM, AND ALSO THAT'S GREAT THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND ANY MONEY, BUT THAT ALSO MEANT THAT NO WORK GOT DONE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A POSITIVE THAT REALLY IS FOR THE CITIZENS TO HEAR. I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, BUT IF YOU AREN'T DOING ANYTHING WITH IT, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP. UM, AND I, OF COURSE, I'M, I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. UM, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRING THOSE TWO THINGS TO LIGHT THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF VACANT POSITIONS THAT JUST AREN'T BEING USED IN THE BUDGET. UM, SO THEY WEREN'T EXPENDED. AND THEN ALSO JUST OUR EXPENDITURES ON ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAD BUDGETED DIDN'T GET DONE. UM, SO I, I JUST WANT TO LET THAT KIND OF BE KNOWN AS JUST KIND OF A PUBLIC STATEMENT, AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THE DARK THAT KIND OF PLAYED INTO THIS, THIS POSITIVE LIGHT THAT KIND OF BUILT IT TO THE NUMBER THAT IT IS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR, UM, THE SOFTWARE WE HAVE WE'LL DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL TRACK THE ASSETS AND DO SOME OF THE STUFF. IT JUST IS NOT BEING USED TO ITS FULL CAPABILITY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. SO REMEMBER HOLLAND, JUST A QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR ANGIE, UM, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO THE, THE, THE CHECKS AND THE VOIDED CHECKS AND ALL OF THAT, THAT THAT'S CONFUSION. AND, AND THEN PEOPLE DOING THE DEPOSITS IN THE CASH AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE, THERE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT'S DOING THAT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE SEVERAL HANDS TOUCHING ALL OF THAT. SO ARE Y'ALL IN THE PROCESS, UM, OF WRITING THAT DOWN IN SOME KIND OF POLICY? YES, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING ALL OF THAT ESTABLISHED. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE VACANCY THAT WE'RE HOPING TO FILL ACTUALLY EXTRA INTERVIEWS TOMORROW, HOPING TO FILL THAT SOON, UM, WHICH WILL HELP US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FINAL SEPARATION AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE, THE PERSON WHO'S ISSUING THE CHECKS AND THE PERSON WHO'S TAKING IN THE CASH AND THE PERSON WHO'S RECONCILING ARE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND, AND, UH, ACCOMPLISHING THAT AND GETTING THAT DONE. SO, AND WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, WHAT, HOW WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND WE'VE MADE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES ALREADY CHECKS ARE NO LONGER ISSUED. UM, THEY'RE NOT PRINTED UNTIL MYSELF OR THE CONTROLLER REVIEW THE, UM, THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE RECORDS AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND MAKE SURE OF THAT. AND THEN THE CHECKS ARE PRINTED, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, THAT WE DON'T PRINT CHECKS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO, OR IF THEY'RE SITTING THERE, WE FIND IN THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE, WE IMPLEMENTED THAT, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ACTUALLY, UM, CHANGE THAT UP. AND THEN, UH, WORKING ON, WE ACTUALLY JUST CHANGED THE SIGNATORIES FOR THE BANK ACCOUNT TO ADD SOME, UM, SOME [01:40:01] MORE PEOPLE AND ANOTHER PERSON IN FINANCE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE LETTER ALSO TO APPROVE THE OUTGOING FUNDS IN THE BANK AND ALL THAT. SO WE ARE WORKING ALREADY TO, TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES AND HAVE BEEN DOING THAT. SO, AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, IF WE CAN GET THIS ONE MORE STAFF PERSON ON, I THINK WE'LL BE HOPEFULLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO GET ALL OF THIS, UH, WHERE IT SHOULD BE. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION, UM, ON THE TOTAL CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS, THERE WAS A 66% INCREASE. WHAT CAN THAT BE ATTRIBUTED TO? UH, THOSE WERE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS FOR YOUR PIDS, PRIMARILY STREET WATER, SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. YEAH. SO JUST BASED ON TIMING OF WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS, SO IT CAN BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, AS YOU, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THOSE ASSETS ARE WORTH A LOT. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. OKAY. NOT RELATED TO IMPACT FEES THOUGH, SINCE THIS WAS SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. OKAY. YEAH. IT COMES TO COUNCIL FOR YOU TO APPROVE LIKE PHASE ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION OR WHATEVER, WHAT YOU'RE PROVING THERE IS ASSETS THAT NOW THE CITY IS TAKING OVER. SO EVERY TIME YOU DO THAT, THAT'S CONTRIBUTED CAPITAL IS WHAT WE CALL IT FROM THE DEVELOPERS. AND SO, UM, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF THAT LAST YEAR, THINGS COMING, YOU KNOW, GETTING COMPLETED PROJECTS, MOVING ALONG IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. SO THAT'S WHAT, WHAT, UM, ALL OF THAT IS, IT'S LIKE SHE SAID, WATER STREET, SEWER LINES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT NOW BELONG TO THE CITY AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF AND MAINTAIN THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PUT IN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, YOU KNOW? UH, WELL THANK YOU FOR DELIVERING WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO DO. UM, WHEN WE BROUGHT YOU IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD YEARS AND YEARS OF EVERYTHING'S FINE, WE'RE DOING GREAT. AND WE KNEW WE WEREN'T AND WE WANTED THE TRUTH AND YOU BROUGHT US THE TRUTH. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE ANGIE WORKING TO CORRECT THINGS BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, AS YOU WERE WORKING WITH HER THROUGH IT. I KNOW SHE'S, SHE'S BEEN DOING SOME OF THAT WORK ALREADY AND THEN GOING FORWARD, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS NEXT YEAR SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE MUCH SHORTER AND CONTINUE ON THAT PATH GOING FORWARD. UM, BUT WE HOPE YOU DO THE SAME TURNING OVER EVERY ROCK, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR THAT YOU DID THIS YEAR AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP, KEEP, KEEP GIVING US A THOROUGH LOOK AT EVERYTHING. UM, ON THE EDC, JUST, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL MAKE, PROBABLY ARE SITTING AT HOME OR WATCHING US WONDERING ABOUT THAT. IF YOU WATCH THE EDC MEETINGS, THEY'RE ON THIS ADC COUNCIL IS ON THIS, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE RECORDS. SO, I MEAN, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM, SO YOU SHOULD BRING IT UP. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING THAT'S JUST FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING ACTIVELY WORKED BY THE EDC TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE RESOLVED AND FIXED, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE HERE. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UH, KEEP IMPROVING, GOING FORWARD. UM, DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT STAFFING LEVELS TO, TO GET YOUR WORK DONE WITHOUT, UH, I'M SURE YOU PUT IN A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS TO GET THIS DONE. HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR, MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE LESS, LITTLE LESS TIME, UH, PUT IN THE OFFICE TO GET ALL THIS WORK DONE. IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT STAFFING LEVELS. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO CHRISTIAN, THIS HAS PRESENTATION POSSIBLE ACTION. I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DID NOT. WE DID NOT ACT ON IT BECAUSE WE FIND IT. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A FORMAL ACTION NEEDED BY CITY COUNCIL. DO YOU, DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE OR I DON'T. IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT YOU CAN ACCEPT THE REPORT AND JUST TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. AND BY ONE TO MAKE A MOTION, TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, ARE YOU GUYS JUST GOING TO MOVE ON? ALRIGHT. YES, SIR. THEY HAVE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. IF THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE AN ACTION, AT LEAST ACCEPTING IF NOT APPROVING THE AUDIT. UM, I WAS SORRY. I WAS WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY BEFORE I MADE A MOTION, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED. I BROOKS WATSON I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT CAN WE MODIFY THAT TO MAKE THE ONE CHANGE ON THE BOND INFORMATION ON THE ACCEPTED REPORT A YEAR? YEAH, MY MORNING. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL SALVOS, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON, EXCEPTED AS PRESENTED WITH THE ONE CHANGE ON THE BONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, GARY? NONE. PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. OH, WHAT'S THAT? OH, IT'S ON 12 ONE. OH, COOL. COUNCIL MEMBER SAID HI, MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. REMEMBER GORDON? I ALSO REMEMBER KENZIE. I MAY HAVE SCHNEIDER [01:45:01] COUNCIL MEMBER VILLA. ROSALVA ALSO MEMBER HOLLAND. I MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANKS JOHN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM TEN TWO, AND THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION TO PULL THIS OUT AND BACK UP. OKAY. [11.1. Hold a public hearing and consider action for the proposed Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning ordinance request for the property to be known as Village at Hutto Station Planned Unit Development (PUD), 30.595 acres, more or less, of land, located off of CR 138. The land use proposal is attached and detached multi-family uses. (First Reading) (Ashley Lumpkin)] HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 11 ONE, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION FOR THE PROPOSED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, HUD ZONING ORDINANCE REQUESTS FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE KNOWN AS VILLAGE AT HADOW STATION. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUD 30.595 ACRES. MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED OFF OF CR 1 38. THE LAND USE PROPOSAL IS ATTACHED AND DETACHED. MULTI-FAMILY USES LOW ASHLEY GETTING TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS JUST OVER. IT'S ABOUT 30 TO HALF ACRES, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SANDWICHED BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 1 38 AND THE NEW SOUTH EAST LOOP. SO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WILL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE. 1 38 WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. IT IS CURRENTLY IS ON THE SINGLE FAMILY ONE. THIS WAS BROUGHT IN WITH THE 2019 ANNEXATION OF RIVERWALK SOUTH. AND WHEN THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, WHEN, AND IT KIND OF LEFT US A LITTLE OUT PERSONAL. SO THAT'S THE PORTION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TONIGHT. UM, THIS IS LOOKING FOR A REZONING FROM SF ONE OR SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY PUD. THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CATEGORY WITHIN OUR UDC THAT ALLOWS FOR THIS TYPE OF CREATIVITY OR INNOVATION, UH, OF A DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS. THE ONE BEDROOMS WILL BE ATTACHED TO IN THREE BEDROOMS WILL BE DETACHED. SO IT'LL LOOK REALLY SIMILAR TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WILL BE DETACHED GARAGES. THERE'LL BE LANDSCAPE SIMILAR TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT WILL BE A FOUR REDD PROJECT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE OVERALL CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT. ONE THING THAT DID COME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION, CAUSE IT'S JUST WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON TUESDAY NIGHT, UM, IS TO FLIP THE LEASING OFFICE AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO BE TO THE NORTH SIDE OFF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, NOT OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 1 38, BECAUSE THE SOUTHEAST LOOP SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE TIME THAT THEY'LL NEED TO BE OPEN. SO HERE'S JUST A LOOK AT SOME OF THE PRODUCT TYPES THAT THEY HAVE. HERE'S ONE OF THE ATTACHED STRUCTURES. HERE'S ONE OF THE DETACHED. UM, SO STAFF DID HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO GET US THE LIST OF CONFIRMED AMENITIES. SO THIS IS THE FULL LIST OF ALL THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ADDING TO THE PUD AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU'LL HAVE COMMUNITY POOL AREA, BARBECUE AREAS, DOG PARK, A STANDALONE COMMUNITY CENTER YOU'LL HAVE CARWASH AREAS, CAR CHARGING STATIONS, PET WASH AREAS, TRASH COMPACTORS, AND ALL OF THE ATTACHED AND DETACHED UNITS WILL HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL ENTRIES, PRIVATE FENCED YARDS AND UM, BACK PATIOS. SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE SEND OUT THE NOTICES TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 600 FEET. WE DID NOT GET ANY RESPONSES. UM, BUT THE POD COMPLIES WITH EVERYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE A PUD FOR BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THE UDC. OOPS, SORRY. SKIPPED A LITTLE TOO FAR. SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON TUESDAY NIGHT RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN TO ZERO WITH THE CONDITION THAT THESE AMENITIES ARE INCLUDED IN THE PUD, AS WELL AS FLIPPING THAT, UM, ENTRY TO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP SIDE. AND WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. FIRST HEARING NONE WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:48 PM. THERE WAS ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PUD ZONING REQUEST. ALRIGHT, SEE, NO ONE WHAT CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:48 PM AND OPEN US UP TO COUNSEL, I THINK THE NEXT IN ORDER. SO AS YOU JUST ONE QUESTION, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE OUR, BONNA JUST A DIFFERENT COMPANY, RIGHT? SAME TYPE OF CONCEPT. IT'S A HORIZONTAL RENTAL COMMUNITY. VERY SIMILAR. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE STORY PRODUCT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AHEAD. UM, NO QUESTIONS. I WAS AT P AND Z AND I THOUGHT THEY ASKED SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. I REALLY LIKED THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY HAD OF MOVING THE LEASING OFFICE UP ONTO THE, UH, SOUTHEAST LOOP, WHICH WILL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE BY THEN ANYWAY. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT. UM, A LOT OF GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, A GOOD PRODUCT FOR THIS, FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT KIND OF GOT BISECTED THERE AND IT'S GOING TO USE FOR HI ASHLEY. UM, I HAD PASSED ON SOME OF MY QUESTIONS TO MATT, SO I'M NOT SURE IF HE HAD GOTTEN THOSE TO YOU OR NOT. SO WE'RE OF GOING PUD BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING VARIANTS WITH DENSITY. IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH MODIFICATIONS BE OF WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE OR HOW IT'S FORMED. IT'S MORE JUST, JUST THE DENSITY PER ACREAGE. THAT'S WHAT THE VARIANCES [01:50:01] ARE. THE PET IS FORMS ARE DENSITY REALLY IS WITHIN THAT MULTIFAMILY. IT'S ABOUT 12 UNITS, AN ACRE. UM, IT REALLY IS BECAUSE THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CATEGORY FOR. UM, WE DON'T HAVE A QUASI SINGLE FAMILY, BUT NOT ON PUBLIC STREETS, UM, MORE ON DRIVE ISLES TYPE OF PRODUCT. AND WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR DUPLEXES AND THE DETACHED UNITS ALL IN THE SAME AREA. SO THIS WORKS PERFECT IN THAT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN AS FAR AS JUST GOING WITH THE REGULAR MULTIFAMILY, SO NOT THIS QUASI, WHAT WOULD BE, IF WE WERE TO REZONE, JUST MULTIFAMILY FOR HERE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE PER ACRE? UM, YOU COULD GO UP TO 16 ARE ACTUALLY ABOVE 16 ON THIS TRACK TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF YOUR DRAINAGE, BUT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT A KIND OF TYPICAL, WHAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT ON COUNTY ROAD, 1 38 BEING BUILT IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. SO A LOT OF THE THREE STORIES, STEREOTYPICAL APARTMENT COMPLEX STRUCTURES. GOTCHA. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, BUT I'M GUESSING WITH THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, THEY'RE HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS PROJECT. I KNOW THAT CAME UP AT P AND Z, BUT WE DO HAVE THEIR ENGINEER HERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO ANSWER, TO RESPOND TO THAT GOOD EVENING. I'M CRYSTAL HARRIS WITH BGE. UH, YES. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY TO COORDINATE ON THE, UH, POTENTIAL DECELERATION LANE THAT WOULD HAPPEN, UM, OFF OF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROJECT. AND HAVE YOU GUYS ALREADY CONDUCTED YOUR TIA? WE HAVE NOT. DO YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS YOU'D EVEN BE ABLE TO DO THAT SINCE THE SOUTHEAST LOOP ISN'T THERE INTO HOW WE, HOW CAN WE PROPERLY ASSIGN IMPACT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THE TIA ISN'T REALLY, OR I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT, I GUESS. YEAH. SO WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THE TIA PROCESS AS OF YET, BUT WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT. GOTCHA. UM, AND I'M GUESSING THAT PROPERTY 8 0 1, IS THAT WHERE THE MANVILLE WATER TOWER IS? THE ONE THAT'S LIKE. OKAY. GOTCHA. UM, AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WETLANDS THAT ARE THERE SHOULD BE THE 25 FOOT RIPARIAN SETBACK, CORRECT. THERE IS A PORTION ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL HAVE SETBACKS. I HAVE THAT. OKAY. UM, IS THIS THE SAME OWNERS AS A DR. HORTON? THEY OWN THE SOUTH GATE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT CORRECT. OKAY. WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY? WAS THE GOTCHA. I'M SORRY, COULD YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE LOUDER? SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE ANSWER? SO HARRIS STROBBE IS, IS THE SELLER FOR THIS PROPERTY, SO DID SOUTH GATE SELL IT TO THEM OR I DON'T. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOUTH GATE WASN'T OWNED BY THAT PERSON. OH, UH, BRIAN FRAIL WITH EMPIRE GROUP WHERE THE DEVELOPER, UM, YEAH, SO, SO, UH, HARRIS DRIVE OWNS THAT PROPERTY. THEY DID NOT SELL IT TO, I THINK THEY WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS TO SELL IT TO THEM, BUT THEN WHEN THE SOUTH LOOP, UH, CAME OUT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, CHANGE THAT PROCESS. SO WE, WE ARE BUYING IT DIRECTLY FROM, UH, PARIS DROP. YEAH. OKAY. GOTCHA. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS FLIPPING THE LEASE OFFICE, DO YOU GUYS HAVE KIND OF A CONTINGENCY PLAN? WOULD YOU PUT YOUR PLAN ON HOLD? JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THE COUNTY, MAYBE ISN'T ALWAYS AS, UM, EFFICIENT OR TIMELY AS WE WOULD LIKE. UM, SO DO YOU GUYS PLAN TO PUT YOUR PROJECT ON HOLD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SOUTHEAST LOOP OR ARE YOU JUST GONNA PRETTY MUCH GO ON WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL AND THEN USE 1 38? I MEAN, YEAH. I, I, BASED ON EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, YES. ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING, UH, COALESCING WITH, WITH OUR PRIMARY ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. I MEAN, OUR, OUR RUNWAY TO, TO DEVELOP A PRODUCT IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN, WE WOULD START DELIVERING UNITS PROBABLY 12 MONTHS AND THEN FINISH IN 18 MONTHS. AND THAT'S FROM THE TIME OF STARTING AND WE'D HAVE PERMIT PROCESS. SO, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY PROBABLY 18 MONTHS FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO TODAY BEFORE WE BE, UM, ACTUALLY DELIVERING UNITS. SO EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT IS, I THINK WE CAN WORK OUT AN ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENT FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN FOR THE FINISHED PROJECT, WHAT DO YOU GUYS PLAN TO CHARGE PER SQUARE FOOT? LIKE WHAT IS RENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? YEAH, SO, UM, THE W W WE, WE DO ALL OUR, ALL OUR PROJECTS GET STUDIED BY JOHN BURNS, YOU KNOW, SO WE DO, UM, DETAILED STUDIES THAT COME UP WITH, UH, ESTIMATED RENT ANALYSIS. AND ON THESE, THE ONE BEDROOMS ARE GOING TO BE ROUGHLY AROUND 1600, UH, UH, DOLLARS PER MONTH. AND THOSE ARE AROUND 700 BUCKS OR 700 SQUARE FEET. SO WE'RE PROBABLY LIKE 2, 2 30, 2 40, A, A SQUARE FOOT. AND THEN THE, THE TWO BEDROOMS ARE PROBABLY AROUND, UH, 22,000, 2050. AND THE THREE BEDROOMS WILL BE OVER 2200. SO, I MEAN, A LITTLE BIT OF A PREMIUM [01:55:01] RENT PRODUCT, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NECESSARILY A YOU QUESTION OR MAYBE JUST KIND OF FOR EVERYONE ON COUNCIL TO BE AWARE, UM, AND ASHLEY, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, THEY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE GOING IN, BUT ON THE OTHER SERVER, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LITTLE LAKE DRIVE ON THAT'S PFLUGERVILLE, TJ, THEY JUST PUT A PROSE, WHICH IS A THREE-STORY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE ON THERE. IT IS A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. UM, IN 1 38 IS ESSENTIALLY ONE LANE. UM, IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DANA DRIVE ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY, WHICH IS ALSO PFLUGERVILLE ETJ THAT IS ALSO SLATED TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES. UM, AND IT'S ALSO MY FURTHER UNDERSTANDING THAT FURTHER DOWN ON 1 38, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND I BELIEVE THOSE HOUSES MIGHT BE ONLINE ALREADY. UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE PFLUEGER REALLY TJ. UM, WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT THAT'S GOING INTO 1 38. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THIS I, THIS, THE SOUTHEAST LOOP HAS TO BE OPEN. LIKE I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE, UM, TRYING TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ONE LANE ROAD WITH ALL OF THESE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS COMING ONLINE, ROUGHLY THE SAME TIMEFRAME. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S SOMETHING CREATIVE WE CAN DO OR, UM, BECAUSE I, I REALLY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PASSING IT WITH, WELL, IF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP ISN'T QUITE FINISHED YET, THEN THEY'LL JUST USE 1 38, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING CREATIVE THERE THAT WE CAN DO, UM, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. CAUSE I'M, I'M VERY, VERY WORRIED FOR THAT ROAD AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ON THAT ROAD. SO ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT THE TA WILL TYPICALLY COME IN AT PLOTTING, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING ALONG THIS LINE. SO WE CAN GET ALL THAT INFORMATION WHOEVER'S GOING TO BE PREPARING THE TA WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS IN THE AREA, BUT TO THE POINT OF ONLY BEING ABLE TO USE 1 38 BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT FOR THE IFC OR INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE TWO POINTS OF ENTRY ANYWAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE SITES ACTUALLY COME ONLINE AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, NO, I DEFINITELY AGREE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THE MAIN ENTRY POINT IS THE SOUTHEAST LOOP I'M CONDITIONED AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO STRESS IS THAT 12 SOUTHEAST LOOP ISN'T DONE YET. OH, WELL, WE'LL JUST USE 1 38 AS KIND OF THE, THE MAIN, I JUST, I'M JUST VERY, VERY FEARFUL OF THAT HAPPENING. AND JUST THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT IS BEING PACKED ONTO 1 38 RIGHT NOW IS VERY ALARMING. AND THAT IS NOT SOLELY ON HEDO SIDE. IT'S HONESTLY MOSTLY ON THE PFLUGERVILLE ETJ SIDE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THE HETERO CITIZENS DAILY, UM, THAT TAKE THAT WAY HOME. THERE'S, IT'S ALWAYS BACKED UP. AND SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT I JUST REALLY, REALLY WANT TO BE, UM, MINDFUL. I MEAN, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HAVE A QUASI HOUSING. UM, IT'S NOT THE PROJECT NECESSARILY THAT, UM, I'M AGAINST, IT'S JUST MORE JUST KIND OF WHERE IT IS AND JUST THE TIMING OF IT THAT JUST REALLY CONCERNS ME. AND I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAXING OUT THOSE BENEFITS AND GET AN ACCURATE TIA AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER, HELEN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN, UM, A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL AS CROWDED AS SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS. AND THEN, AND I JUST HEARING THAT ABOUT ALL OF THESE APARTMENTS THAT'S GOING AROUND THERE, THAT THAT WHOLE AREA IS JUST PRETTY INTENSE. SO THANKS FOR MAKING SOMETHING LOOK. YEAH. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT I DO SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS OVER THE TROPIC OVER THERE ON 1 38, AND YOU KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE ALLEVIATED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN REALLY DO UNTIL ONE 30, UH, THE LOOP IS, UM, COMPLETELY COMPLETED. SO CERTAINLY I THINK ONCE WE GET THE TIA IN WITH THE PLATTING, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE AREA FOR TURN LANES OR ANYTHING ELSE, OR ANY OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS, AND THEN KEEP IN MIND AS WELL. THIS IS IN THE CITY. SO THIS WILL PAY TIF, UM, IMPACT FEES. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT AT LEAST THIS ONE WILL BE PAYING, UH, AS OPPOSED UNFORTUNATELY, TO THE ETJ PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR CITY OR NOT. JENNY, WOULDN'T THERE BE SOME RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE TIA HAS DONE ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE [02:00:01] IN PFLUGERVILLE, ETJ TO PARTICIPATE IN 1 38, POTENTIALLY. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A PFLUGERVILLE REVIEW AND CERTAINLY CAN REACH OUT, BUT IT MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN A TRAVIS COUNTY REVIEW OR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1 38, IT WOULD BE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REVIEW. UM, BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, PLANS FOR THAT AREA OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH 1 38, KNOWING THAT THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WAS COMING IN AND WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY AMAZING 90 DEGREE JOGS JUST EAST OF THIS SITE. SO JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE ON THE STREETS. SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTIONS DO KIND OF REVOLVE AROUND THE TRAFFIC. UM, I DUNNO IF YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO THESE OR NOT. UM, BUT, UM, I ASSUME THE SOUTHEAST LOOP IS NOT EVER GOING TO BE CITY MAINTAINED, AT LEAST NOT FOR THE, NOT FOR SOME TIME, BUT WITH US HAVING ANNEX PROPERTY ALONG 1 38, IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE COUNTY ROAD? IS THAT, IS THERE POTENTIAL THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING PARTS OF THAT? UM, AND I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THE PFLUGERVILLE IS DEVELOPING RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. I DON'T KNOW. ARE THOSE STAYING IN THE ETJ AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE AS FAR AS ANYTHING ELSE ON 1 38, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL IN PFLUGERVILLE. SEE TJ AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COUNTY PROJECTS. UM, AS FAR AS 1 38 MAINTENANCE, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW WEIGHTS IN THE BACK, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS THAT ANSWER, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU ANNEX, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN 2019, YOU WOULD TAKE ON, UM, AT LEAST YOUR ETJ PORTION OF THE STREET. YEAH. SO WE MAY, SO WE MAY BE PUTTING SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO 1 38, BUT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I GUESS THAT'S THE OTHER POINT, SORRY, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DEVELOPING THERE AND THEY'RE NOT ALL HADOW AND WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE HADOW IMPACT. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF LIBERALS. WE WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER FINANCIALLY PAYING FOR THEIR SAME IMPACTS ON THAT STREET. OKAY. BUT I MEAN THE IMPACT ON THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, THAT'S KIND OF FREE FOR US. WE DON'T KNOW IT'S BEING BUILT. THAT'S A COUNTY AND TECHSTOP PROJECT. YEAH. OKAY. OH, SHOOT. I'M SORRY TO JUMP. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THAT. SO WHENEVER WE ANNEXED COVERED BRIDGE SOUTH GATE, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF ALONG 1 38, THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, SINCE WE ANNEX THOSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THAT MAINTENANCE THOUGH. CORRECT. ALL THAT IS, WAS KIND OF EMINENT DOMAIN. YEAH. BY THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE. SORRY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ASK OKAY. SORRY. NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. UM, I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT Y'ALL'S ENGINEERS ARE ALREADY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ON THE DECELERATION LANES FOR YOUR ENTRANCES. I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL FOR US WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, MY CONCERNS ARE, ARE VERY MUCH IN LOCK STEP WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE REGARDING THIS AREA IS A CONGLOMERATE OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT TAXING ENTITIES WITH WHO IS IN CHARGE OF WHAT, AND MY QUESTION TO YOU, ASHLEY AND YOUR TEAM IS WE KNOW THAT WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH THIS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND IT'S, IT'S BECOMING MORE SO WITH HOW PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET AROUND HADOW AND AROUND PFLUGERVILLE, ET CETERA. UM, IT TAKES SOMETIMES TWO YEARS FOR US TO GET STOPLIGHTS WITH TXDOT, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR PLAN. SO, UM, WHATEVER THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE THERE'S A MEETING THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH THE ENTITIES THAT ARE AROUND 1 38, RIGHT HERE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHO'S DOING WHAT ALREADY, SINCE THEY'RE FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THOSE PROJECTS ON THE PFLUGERVILLE SIDE, THE TRAVIS COUNTY SIDE, THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY SIDE, WHATEVER, THEY'RE ALL THERE, THEY'RE ALL THERE. RIGHT. I KNOW. UM, SO THAT WE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING OF YOU GUYS AS A DEVELOPER GOING FORWARD. AND WE'RE MAKING AN EDUCATED DECISION. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL DO MEETINGS LIKE THAT WITH FIVE DIFFERENT WE HAVE BEFORE. OH, WELL JUST DO THAT AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE REALLY TOO MUCH TO ASK. I THINK CERTAINLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING AGAIN, THE TIA, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING OFF SITE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS FURTHER WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AND MAKE IT, MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT STOP SIGNS UP AND, AND THEN WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET ON THE TXDOT LIST. AND, UH, IF WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THAT WITH THE PROCESS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ALONG WITH PFLUGERVILLE AND THE COUNTIES, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, ASHLEY IS RELATED TO THE EDC. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COOL PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING OUR WAY THAT ARE PUDS AND THEY'RE SIMILAR TO IRVANA AND THE BELL YARD AND, UM, SCHMIDT'S CREEK. UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE GREAT PROJECTS. IS THERE SOMETHING [02:05:01] MISSING IN OUR UDC THAT CAN BE CAPTURING THESE THINGS SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DO A PUD? UH, POTENTIALLY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF WITH, IF, ARE WE MISSING ANY HOUSING? OF COURSE WE DO HAVE SOME, TWO TO FOUR, UM, IN OUR SO TWO TO FOUR UNITS JUST BY RIGHT. OR UDC, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY CAPTURE WHAT THIS IS. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT ADDING TO THE UDC. BUT A LOT OF THESE TIMES IT'S BETTER JUST TO GET THE PD CAUSE YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE VARIETY. UM, SO IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT THE UDC IS MISSING IT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GETTING REALLY GOOD PRODUCT AND IT TAKES ABOUT THE SAME TIME AND THEY DON'T, THEY MAY HAVE TO DO A PUD ANYWAY, JUST BECAUSE WHATEVER WE WRITE MAY NOT ACTUALLY WORK FOR THE PRODUCT. SO IT'LL HAVE TO BE A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDING TO THE CODE RELATED TO THIS SINCE IT COMES UP OFTEN, BUT THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, THAT'S IT? SORRY, NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF WHY WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PLAN IS THAT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT BUDGET, WE PUT THE MONEY IN TO UPDATE THE UDC SO THAT WE GO AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DON'T ADDRESS ALL THESE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, MAYBE A LOT OF THESE ARE KIND OF ONE-OFFS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE, I THINK I KNOW BEST, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK BEST FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT MAYBE WE'LL FIND SOMETHING THAT IS KIND OF A FRAMEWORK THAT WORKS FOR AT LEAST A LOT OF THEM AND BRINGS US CLOSER. SO HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT BY NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A CLEARER IDEA. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THE UDC REVIEW IS PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. AWESOME. BUT THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO QUESTIONS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT. UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT, YOUR PRICING, KNOWING WHAT A SINGLE ROOM AND A TWO BEDROOM IS PRICING AT THE EMERY, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT FOR A MULTIFAMILY. UM, THEY'RE STARTING AT 2100 FOR A SINGLE ROOM AND YOU'RE OFFERING A PRIVATE SPACE WITH A GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY AND IT'S YOUR OWN PRIVATE ENTRANCE, LESS THAN THAT POTENTIALLY. AND I THINK THAT'S PHENOMENAL THAT REALLY HELPS WITH OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING NEED THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, SENIOR AFFORDABILITY, UM, STUDENTS THAT ARE ATTENDING TSTC OR TEMPLE COLLEGE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, UM, ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS DATA. I APPRECIATE IT. ONE MORE THING. OKAY. UM, SO FINAL PLOT GOES TO P AND Z. UM, SO I KNOW THIS IS A FIRST READING. ASHLEY, CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME WHAT OTHER CHECKS ALONG THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH THIS PRODUCT? WE'VE GOT THE ZONING TONIGHT AND THEN WE WILL END UP WITH A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT THAT WILL BOTH BE APPROVED BY P AND Z. SO WITHIN THAT, WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO WORK OUT THE TIA AND GET THOSE, UM, THAT APPLICATION SETTLED. AND THEN AFTER FINAL PLAT IS APPROVED, WE CAN GET INTO SITE PLANNING AND AFTER THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED AND THE FINAL PLAT IS RECORDED, WE CAN GET INTO BUILDING PERMITS. WE'VE GOT SEVERAL, AT LEAST FIVE MORE REVIEWS PLUS TIA. BUT AS FAR AS COUNCIL GOES UP HERE, WE'LL HAVE A SECOND READING. AND AT THE SECOND READING, WE WON'T HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAVE THE SECOND READING TONIGHT. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR THE ZONING. THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT. A LOT OF THIS COULD CHANGE ONCE THEY GET INTO MORE, UM, MORE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AND THEY GET INTO MORE OF THE ENGINEERING WORK ON THE DRAINAGE AREAS AND THE REST OF WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT ON THE SITE. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ANOTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM. MAY I MOVE TO APPROVE 11.1 AS PRESENTED SECOND CUSTOMER HOLLAND SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR MEMBER HOLLAND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION P AND Z APPROVED SEVEN. OH YEAH. WITH THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HEAVILY RELIANT ON P AND Z TO ENSURE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS ALL GO BACK INTO WHAT WE HAVE TO, IF YOU WANT TO CONDITION ANYTHING OF, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO CONDITION THAT THE FLIP. UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF THERE'S TRAFFIC, I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THE, UM, THAT'S STILL IN HERE ON STAFF HAS HEARD IT AND I'VE HEARD IT. SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T LET IT PROGRESS WITHOUT THE TIA. SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE FAILS TOPS WITHIN THE PROCESS ITSELF. SO IT HAS TO HAVE THAT TA TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THEM. I GUESS IT'S LIKE, I WANT A CONDITION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, LEGALLY, I WANT TO CONDITION, UM, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TAXING ENTITIES ON WHO'S DOING WHAT, AND WILL THAT BE PART OF THAT TIA PROCESSES? IS THAT WHAT YOUR THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING? JUST CAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING AND ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT, UM, ANYBODY ELSE IS BRINGING TO THAT AREA AND THOSE STREETS. OKAY. CAN WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE TIA [02:10:01] HAS DONE THAT WE ALL GET COPIES OF IT? SURE. AWESOME. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL COME INTO P AND Z. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. I MAY OR PRETEND THORNTON HOW SOME MEMBER GORDON, HOW SOME MEMBERS SAID HI, HOW SOME MEMBER OF KINSEY. I MAY HAVE SCHNEIDER. NOW SOME OF OUR VILLA REAL SALVA MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. MAY I MOVE TO WAIVE THE SECOND RAINING SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON WAVING THE SECOND READING. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLA ROSALVA MAYOR SNYDER. TELL US A MEMBER KINSEY. I TELL SOME MEMBER SATIN. I KNOW SOME MEMBER GORDON. I HAVE SOME MEMBER. I'M SORRY. MAYOR. PRETEND THORTON. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. AYE. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS THE TITLE 11 TO [11.2. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2022-019 amending the budget for the fiscal year of October 1, 2021 through September 30, 2022, by appropriating and setting aside the necessary funds for additional expenditures, in accordance with existing statutory requirements; finding municipal purposes; providing for a severability clause; and providing for an effective date. (First Reading) (Angie Rios)] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER OH DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 9. AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022, BY APPROPRIATING AND SETTING ASIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, FINDING MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING IN FRONT OF EFFECTIVE DATE. WELCOME BACK. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WERE APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING, THE 2% FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, EXCEPT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE 4% FOR THE POLICE. SO WHAT I DID DO THOUGH, AND I APOLOGIZE, BEEN CRAZY. I DID PUT A FULL YEAR'S WORTH IN THERE AND I ONLY NEED SIX MONTHS OF IT. SO IT'S LARGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. SO, UM, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. UM, BUT I HAD TO, I MEAN IT A SLIDE IN HERE, SO IT'S, IT REALLY ONLY NEEDS TO BE HALF OF THOSE TWO NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE THERE. UM, IF, UH, FOR THE, THE AMOUNTS THAT YOU APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING. SO WHAT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK THOUGH, IS THAT, UM, IF YOU WOULD ADD 13,000 INTO THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, IT'S NOT IN THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD ADD THAT FOR SOME TEMPORARY HELP FOR THE HR DEPARTMENT, WITH ALL THE, UM, SUMMER STAFF COMING ON FOR THE PARKS PROGRAM AND IN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE GOT GOING ON, THEY NEED A LITTLE HELP FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO, ALRIGHT. SO THE NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILMAN GORDON WAS FIRST. UM, SO WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION, WE COULD MAKE THE MOTION TO JUST CUT THAT IN HALF IF WE NEED TO. AND THAT'S GOOD. AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO ADD THE 13, WE COULD AS PART OF THIS MOTION TONIGHT. OKAY. UM, KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT OTHER THAN I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE DO HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THERE FOR, UM, IF WE DID 4% ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT JUST FOR THE PD. SO I APPRECIATE, UM, WHOEVER GATHERED UP THOSE NUMBERS, THEY WERE LOWER THAN I WAS EXPECTING. AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE GETTING THAT IN THERE SO THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER THAT TONIGHT. AND THAT'S LIKE IN FULL YEARS, WHAT EVERYTHING YOU'RE SEEING ON THAT SPREADSHEET'S A FULL YEAR WORTH. SO, UM, SINCE WE'RE HERE IN MAY AND THAT TAKES EFFECT, OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T INCUR ALL THOSE COSTS THIS YEAR. SOME WE WILL FOR THE ONES GETTING THE, THE ONE-TIME PAYMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT. ALRIGHT, NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MCKINSEY. UM, AND I'D ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE GOT FORWARDED ON TO YOU. UM, SO AS OF TWO YEARS AGO, HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS GOTTEN RAISES OR ABOVE, ABOVE AND BEYOND COLA AS OF TWO YEARS AGO. AND THEN, AND THEN LAST YEAR WAS, OR SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS OR NO RAISES OR ANYTHING. UM, LET ME MAKE PERMISSION IN FRONT OF ME. I APOLOGIZE. DOCUMENT COME OUT. RIGHT. LOOKING AT THAT REALLY QUICK. I DO WANT TO SAY WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE GET THE STAFF, THE QUESTIONS AND THE STAFF GETS IT TO YOU. WE DID EMAIL YOU SOMETHING, UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS 1 16, 1 18 THIS AFTERNOON. SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, MAYBE JUST EMAIL IT AND TEXT TO YOU. SO WE DID TRY TO GET THAT, BUT WE APOLOGIZE IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YOU WEREN'T KNOWING THAT IT WAS THERE. OKAY. [02:15:02] I'M SORRY. YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT ALL THE OTHER, JUST, JUST KIND OF ABOUT LIKE RAISES IN GENERAL. CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VACANCIES ON STAFF. UM, RIGHT. SO, UM, BACK TO 2019, THE, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1920, UM, THEY WERE, THEY GOT THEIR MERIT INCREASES DURING THAT YEAR. SOME STAFF DID, BUT, UM, IT WAS ONLY FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THEN THAT WAS FROZEN, UH, RIGHT AS THE FINANCIAL CRISIS STARTED TO OCCUR AND BEFORE THE LAYOFFS, SO PDS CONTINUED TO GET MERIT THROUGH ALL OF THESE YEARS. AND THEN WHEN WE FROZE THAT FOR STAFF, THEY DIDN'T UNTIL THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 22 YEAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE 2% THAT MAG, NO, THEY'RE GETTING THEIR ELIGIBLE FOR 3% MERIT IN THEIR EVALUATIONS. RIGHT. AND LAST YEAR IN APRIL OF 2021, COUNCIL DID GIVE 3% TO ALL EMPLOYEES, UM, NOT PD, BUT ALL THE OTHER EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE PDN MEN. RIGHT. BUT THAT YEAR THEY GOT 8%. IS THAT CORRECT? 10, UM, POLICE GOT 10% IN OCTOBER, 20, 20 AND 5% IN OCTOBER, 2021. IT ALSO GOT 8% IN OCTOBER OF 2021, THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO, UM, YEAH, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT KIND OF PUTS YOU GUYS IN A BAD SPOT CAUSE MAG KIND OF UP UNTIL WAS SAYING 2% FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE NUMBERS AND BUDGETS AND THINGS THAT YOU HAD PREPARED FOR US. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE DAY OF THE MEETING, THEN THEY WANT TO SUGGEST 4%. SO I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT KIND OF PUT YOU GUYS IN A WHERE YOUR PREDICAMENT OF HAVING THINGS PREPARED, UM, AND KIND OF SHOW WHAT THOSE TOTAL MONIES AND BUDGETS WILL BE. UM, PERSONALLY, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF MAKING IT, UM, EVEN ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD. UM, IF WE'RE DOING 2%, 2%, IF IT'S 4%, THEN IT SHOULD BE 4%. UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING ALL OF THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE. UM, WE HAVE 37 VACANCIES WITHIN THE CITY, NOT INCLUDING PATROL OFFICERS, UM, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER REPORT SAID THAT THERE WAS 37 VACANCIES, WHICH IS QUITE A FEW. SO WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE, UM, KEEPING THOSE EMPLOYEES. AND NOT THAT MONEY'S ALWAYS A MOTIVATING FACTOR, BUT IT DEFINITELY HELPS. UM, SO I, I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF WHICHEVER WAY THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD JUST FOR STAFFING, UM, ISSUES FOR MORALE ISSUES. CAUSE IT DEFINITELY CAN BE CONCERNING IF YOU ONLY SEE ONE DEPARTMENT KIND OF CONTINUALLY, ALWAYS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO AND THREE YEARS. UM, AND I DID KIND OF GO THROUGH AN AVERAGE FOR, UM, WITH THE 2%, WITH JUST THE 2%, UM, JUST OUR PATROL OFFICERS WOULD BRING THEM AT ROUGHLY $65,944 AND 28 CENTS, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE MID RANGE. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, I AM COMPLETELY FINE IF WE WANT TO LEAVE IT AT 2% FOR EVERYONE, IF WE WANT TO BRING IT TO 4% FOR EVERYONE, BUT IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT SHOULD BE EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD. UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF MY, UM, OPENING THOUGHTS ON THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS, UM, ON THAT. UM, I ACTUALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. UH, I AM AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY, UM, ON MAKING IT EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD. UM, IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM MAG FOR EVERYBODY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE LAST MINUTE, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR 4%. UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY. AND I SAID IT THE LAST MEETING, IT'S NOT TO SAY WE DON'T VALUE OUR OFFICERS OR KNOW WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY AND PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER. I THINK, UM, AGAIN, TO KEEP WITH MORALE AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM EQUALLY. AND AGAIN, IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SALARIES AND THE RANGES OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR OFFICERS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY LOOK OUT IF WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET. DEFINITELY. BUT I AGREE. I THINK, UM, IF WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT AND IF WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG STRAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD. UH, SO W ONE QUESTION FIRST, UM, YOU MENTIONED CUTTING THE AMOUNTS IN HALF, BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING LUMP SUMS AND SOME ARE GETTING RAISES, SO THE RAISES WOULD BE CUT IN HALF ANOTHER LUMP SUMS. SO WE CAN'T TRULY CUT IT IN HALF, RIGHT. WE CAN IN HALF BECAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS IN MAY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE SEVENTH MONTH OF THE YEAR. SO NOT IT W THE RAISES WILL TAKE EFFECT FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN HALF THE YEAR, AND THAT WILL ACCOUNT FOR THOSE THAT ARE GETTING THE LUMP SUM PAYMENTS. OKAY. SO, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AS FAR AS 2%, [02:20:01] 4% WITH INFLATION BEING WHAT IT IS, I DON'T THINK 4% IS, YOU KNOW, A VERY LARGE RAISE TO BEGIN WITH. I MEAN, I THINK 4% IS FAIR FOR EVERYBODY AS FAR AS DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND, UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, W WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE GETS PRIORITY OVER YOU, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FEEL GOOD, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, ON, UH, PRIORITIZING DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE CITY. AND I DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT PRIORITIZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UM, WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PAY EVERYBODY A FAIR WAGE, BUT WHEN WE NEED TO, UH, POTENTIALLY PAY OUR OFFICERS MORE, I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE CAN ONLY DO THAT. IF WE RAISE EVERYBODY THE SAME AMOUNT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT, THAT IT, UH, HAS TO WORK. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. TELL US SOME OF OUR VILLAREAL SILVA I HAD, UH, ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THANK Y'ALL FOR GETTING ALL THE RESPONSES BACK ON WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED, WHAT, WHAT IS THE HIRING BONUS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS? AND $2,500 IS A TWO TO 4% INCREASE BEING APPLIED TO VACANT OPEN POSITIONS. AND Y'ALL EXPLAINED VERY NICELY. THANK YOU. UM, CITY MANAGER, TURNER, THAT THE INTERPRETATION WITH MAG IS ACTUALLY THE, THE RANGE. SO IT WOULD BE A PERCENTAGE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A CONVERSATION I'D LIKE TO HAVE COME BACK, BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THE 4% INCREASE FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, I DO THINK THAT THAT RANGE NEEDS TO BE BUMPED UP 2% BASED, BASED ON MY CONVERSATION WITH CITY MANAGER TURNER. I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE. ON LAST TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, RECRUITMENT AND WHEN TALKING WITH CITY MANAGER TURNER IT'S OKAY, IS THIS A RETENTION, UH, FE ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH? ARE WE TRYING TO FOCUS ON RECRUITMENT? AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR LONG-TERM EMPLOYEES THAT SINCE 2019, HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN INCLUDED IN AN, IN A RAISE, UM, THAT THEY STAY HERE AND THAT THEY LIKE WORKING HERE, BUT THEN 37 OPEN POSITIONS, THAT'S A RECRUITMENT. AND THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION FOR US UP HERE WITH WHAT THAT RANGE IS FOR MAG. UM, SO I HAD ASKED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WHAT WERE THE PAY RAISES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD AND 2019, OUR POLICE WERE ELIGIBLE FOR A 3% MERIT, AND THEN SOME CITY STAFF WAS RECEIVING INCREASES, BUT THEN ALL MERIT WAS STOPPED FOR NON-POLICE EMPLOYEES DUE TO THE FINANCIAL SITUATION WE UNDERWENT THE NEXT YEAR IN OCTOBER, 2020, OUR POLICE, EXCEPT FOR SENIOR LEVEL AND ADMIN STAFF RECEIVED A 10% INCREASE. AND POLICE WERE ADDITIONALLY OF ELIGIBLE FOR THE 3% MERIT, UM, AND APRIL 21, ALL EMPLOYEES, EXCEPT FOR POLICE RECEIVED A 3% AND THIS INCLUDED THE POLICE ADMIN. AND THEN IN OCTOBER 21, POLICE RECEIVED A 5% INCREASE FOR ALL OFFICERS, BUT NOT ADMIN, AN 8% INCREASE FOR IT STAFF. AND THEN ALL EMPLOYEES WERE ELIGIBLE FOR A MERIT INCREASE. SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON'S POINT, I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE IN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE ARE FINANCIALLY AND WE'RE REBUILDING. HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF WHICH DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR US TO DO A COST OF LIVING INCREASE. UM, THREE YEARS OF DATA ARE SHOWING THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN, UM, EQUITABLE TO ALL OF OUR STAFF. AND IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD? AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 51,000. SO IF WE'RE CUTTING IN HALF THE SALARY INCREASE, IT'S ON THE SCREENS IN FRONT OF US. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING 51,000. WE'RE STILL UNDER WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN OUR GENERAL FUND AND UTILITY FUND. AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO SO, THEN THIS IS THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY ON OUR STAFF, AS WE'RE COMING OUT OF COVID AND WE'RE COMING OUT OF ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND COST OF LIVING HAS SIGNIFICANTLY GONE UP, THAT EVERYBODY RECEIVES A 4% INCREASE. I WILL NEVER BE GRUDGE. OUR POLICE RECEIVING INCREASES. THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE THAT. UM, [02:25:01] THEY, THEY DO A LOT, AND I THINK THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS INCLUDED WITH THAT. BUT SEEING THAT CONSISTENTLY YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED ALL STAFF DEPARTMENTS. UM, I WORRY ABOUT RETENTION AND I WORRY ABOUT US NOT BEING A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WORK. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ON US AS A COUNCIL. SO, UM, 51,000 TO DO AN ACROSS THE BOARD, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY. NO, UH, THAT WAS FOR THE POLICE TO GO TWO TO FOUR WAS 51,000. IT'S 86,000 OR 64 FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND 22 FROM THE UTILITY FUND. AND THAT'S A FULL YEAR. SO IT'S 43,000 OR 30, 2000 FROM THE DIFFERENT FUNDS AND 11,000 FROM UTILITY. ANGIE, IS THAT WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF THE BUDGET, THE OPERATING BUDGET, GENERAL FUNDS EXPENSES, THE PREDICTIONS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YES, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WELL, AND PART OF THAT'S THE INCREASED REVENUES WE'RE SEEING WITH THE SALES TAX AND IN SOME OF OUR PERMIT FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TOO, WILL HELP, UM, WITH THAT OFFSET RIGHT NOW, WE DO STILL HAVE SOME MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T. IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET, WE LEFT 1,000,001 ON THE BOTTOM LINE AND WE STILL HAVE WELL OVER 200,000 OF THAT. SO, UM, WELL, IF WE PROVED THAT WHOLE THING, IT WOULD HAVE GONE OVER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT, LIKE I SAY, THAT'S AN INCORRECT NUMBER, WHICH I APOLOGIZE FOR. UM, WE STILL WILL BE WITHIN THE, THE, UM, THE RANGE, THE RANGE OF THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. YES. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, TURNER, AND FOR ANGIE, FOR ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD ON THIS AND FOR BEING ON THE PHONE WITH ME FOR ALL, AGAIN, ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD, I JUST, I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL DATA OF WHAT WE'VE DONE ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BEST EDUCATED DECISION FOR OUR STAFF. UM, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF A 4% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL CURRENTLY EMPLOYED CITY OF HADOW STAFF MEMBERS. UM, YEAH, FOR THIS YEAR I'M DONE, OH, IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF COMMENTS. UM, SO I STARTED THE WHOLE 4% CONVERSATION. IT WASN'T SO MUCH THIS WHOLE SALARY IN GENERAL, THAT NEEDS TO ALL BE LOOKED AT IN MY MIND, IT'S MORE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BELOW THE MIDPOINT OF THE PATROL OFFICERS. AND SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE DATA, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY, WELL, THEY GOT A 10% OF 5% AND YOU CAN GO BACK THROUGH ALL THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEIR, WHAT WAS HER WAGE TWO YEARS AGO. AND SO AT 10% INCREASE ON A $40,000 SALARY. IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. IF IT WAS A 10% INCREASE ON AN $80,000 SALARY, THAT'S A COMPLETE DIFFERENT STORY. SO HISTORICALLY WE HAVE UNDERPAID OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HIRED. I MEAN, WE JUST SETTLED A LAWSUIT FOR AN OFFICER THAT, UM, ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY AND YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. AND SO I THINK ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THE REASON THE IT DEPARTMENT ONLY, I SAY ONLY GOT AN 8% INCREASE LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE WE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I TOLD ISAAC. I SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW DAVID DOES A GREAT JOB. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CAN COME TO WORK BECAUSE THE WAGE WE'RE PAYING HIM. HE'S SO MUCH MORE VALUABLE IN THE WORKFORCE IN AUSTIN. AND SO AN 8% INCREASE. I STILL THINK WE'RE UNDER PAYING HIM, BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL WE HAVE A STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE IT. SO EACH DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY. SOME MAY BE PAID APPROPRIATELY FOR THE MARKET. SOME MAY BE DRAMATICALLY UNDER IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A GREAT TECH PERSON AND YOU WANT TO PAY THEM $60,000, THEY CAN GO TO ANY TECH COMPANY OUT THERE AND MAKE THAT. SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU RETAIN YOUR TALENT? SO WITH ALL EMPLOYEES BEING IMPORTANT, ONE THING I LOOK AT, I LEARNED THIS KIND OF MY DAY JOB IS, IS SOME POSITIONS. I THINK UNFORTUNATELY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS. AND THE HIGHER UP YOU GO, THE MORE REPLACEABLE YOU ARE. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE A CITY MANAGER. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THE BOTTOM PERSON. AND SO THEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IN MY THREE YEARS, WE'VE OUTSOURCED ALMOST EVERY JOB IN OUR CITY TO, UM, UH, CONSULTING FIRMS COME IN AND DONE SOME OF THIS. WE'VE HAD AN INTERIM PERSON DO THIS. THERE'S ONE POSITION. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN OUTSOURCE AND THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO IF WE DON'T PAY THEM A WAGE, THAT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM HERE. THEN, YOU KNOW, ISAAC IS DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT HE'S, HE'S ON LOAN, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE PAYING HIM TO FILL IN WHILE WE FIGURED THAT OUT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH 28 OR 30 OFFICERS. YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT. AND SO THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRIVATE SECURITY FORCE [02:30:01] AND IN MY MIND, PUBLIC SAFETY HAS GOTTA BE THE NUMBER ONE THING, UM, FOR OUR CITY. SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON WAGES FOR ME, THE POINT ABOUT THE POLICE OR TOPIC, I THINK IN A BUDGET IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM TODAY. BUT IT, THIS EQUITY THING, IF YOU'RE MAKING 70,000, LET'S SAY WORKING IN ONE DEPARTMENT AND OFFICER'S MAKING 52,000, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, THE OFFICER WOULD MORE THAN, PROBABLY MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO DO THE $70,000 A YEAR JOB. BUT THE $70,000 A YEAR JOB DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE 52,000 BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO OUT. THEY DON'T WANT TO MIDNIGHTS. WE ONLY HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS MIDNIGHTS REGULARLY, AND IT'S NOT EVEN, I MEAN, I WAS JUST TOLD TODAY, THERE'S GETTING READY TO SWITCH. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. IT'S NOT AS EASY AS COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES, BUT THAT'S MY THING, WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO DO AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM, IF, IF PAYING EVERYBODY MORE MONEY TO MAKE IT FAIR WITH THE POLICE IS THE WAY TO GO, THEN THAT'S FINE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET TIME, IF YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE IT GUY A 15% INCREASE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY IN THE STAFF GETS A 15% INCREASE. SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH A THREE OR A FOUR. MAYBE NOT. SOME PEOPLE IN OUR CITY ARE ACTUALLY, WE MAY FIND OUT THEY'RE OVERPAID. AND SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT A TERRIBLE, THAT THEY'RE A TERRIBLE EMPLOYEE AND DON'T DESERVE MORE, BUT SOME PEOPLE MAX OUT. AND SO, UM, THAT'S JUST STAFFING ONE-ON-ONE IN A WAY, BUT SO THAT'S ALL, I REALLY HAVE ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. AND I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION OF ENERGY THAT JUST KIND OF CAME UP. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS 30 PLUS EMPLOYEES THAT ARE STILL VACANT, UM, IS THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE TONIGHT RELATED TO THIS, UM, INCREASE. IS THAT GONNA SLOW DOWN THE EFFORT TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS OR DO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT MONEY READY? WELL, WE HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET. UM, SOME OF THEM WE'RE ACTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT, TO POSSIBLY INCREASE. WE HAVE SOME POSITIONS WE POSTED NOT RECEIVED A SINGLE APPLICATION AT 17 AND $18 AN HOUR BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS FOR THEM TO DO OTHER THINGS. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL OTHER CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD ABOUT SOME OF THAT. SO YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, YOU ALL KNOW THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE WERE SOME COMPONENTS LACKING IN THE SALARY SURVEY THAT WAS DONE THAT COULD PUT YOU IN A BETTER POSITION TO ANALYZE THE WORKFORCE AND THE PAY OF THE WORKFORCE AND MAKE PLANS TWO TO THREE YEAR PLANS TO BRING THE WORKFORCE TO CERTAIN LEVELS RELATIVE TO THEIR PAY PLANS. UM, HAVING SAID THAT IF YOU DO 4% ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, I CAN'T SAY 100%, YOU WON'T BE OVERPAYING ANY ONE, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, BUT YOU WON'T BE OVERPAYING YOUR WORKFORCE. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO STRESS. I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO TWO THINGS, UH, POST MY TIME ONE IS TO DO A THOROUGH, COMPLETE SALARY AND BENEFITS STUDY, AND THEN SECONDLY, TO DO A STAFFING STUDY. AND SO I THINK ONCE YOU DO THOSE THINGS AND YOU DO COMPLETE COMPREHENSIVE STUDIES, YOU'LL BE IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE WHERE YOU'RE AT DETERMINE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE. I DON'T THINK THE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD IS GOING TO, UH, UH, OVERPAY YOUR STAFF AT ALL. YOU'LL STILL HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE, UH, UH, LIKELY UNDERPAID. UM, AND I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT THERE, I'VE TALKED TO HIM ENOUGH ABOUT THE MAX STUDY. SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT ANYMORE, BUT YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO IN HOLES TO REPAIR WATER MAINS THAT ARE BROKEN. AND, UH, WHILE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT WITH THE CREWS HERE, I HAVE DONE THAT ON MY CAREER AND THAT'S NOT THE SAFEST WORK AND IT'S NOT THE MOST CONVENIENT WORK TO, AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT, WHETHER IT'S MORNING, NOON, OR NIGHT, AND YOU LET A MAIN BREAK AND UNDER A STREET, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME WORK IN. SO WE DO WANT TO PAY PEOPLE APPROPRIATELY BEARING IN MIND THAT THESE ARE TREASURY TAXPAYER DOLLARS. UM, BUT WE WANT TO PAY AS APPROPRIATELY AS WE CAN AFFORD TO PLAY, UM, TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. UH, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS AS A COST OF LIVING INCREASE, NOT HAVING THE DEEP DIVE THAT WILL HAPPEN DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. UM, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY MANAGER, TURNER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A STAFFING STUDY AND ANOTHER SALARY [02:35:01] STUDY CONDUCTED THAT IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE IN SCOPE, INCLUDING BENEFITS, BOTH TRADITIONAL AND UNTRADITIONAL, SUCH AS DAYCARE, STIPENDS, ET CETERA, FOR OUR STAFF, UM, CONDUCTED. AND HOPEFULLY THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN GET IMPLEMENTED INTO THAT BUDGET PROCESS WHEN WE'RE DOING THE DEEP DIVE ON, OKAY, LAST YEAR WE GAVE IT TO IT BECAUSE DAVID NEEDED IT. HE DESERVED IT. AND THIS IS A COST OF LIVING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MID-YEAR. THIS IS NOT, I THINK, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, IT, THE SALARY STUDY CAME OUT AND THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION. AND I THINK IT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO DO THIS, UM, COST OF LIVING. EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF IS IMPACTED BY THAT EVERYBODY. AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN THE HISTORICAL DATA THAT I'VE SEEN BEFORE. SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A 4% INCREASE TO ALL CITY OF HADOW STAFF. UM, I'LL SECOND, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF WE COULD DO MAYBE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, WE NEED TO ADD IN THAT 13,000, RIGHT. IS THAT DIVIDED BY TWO? NO, THAT'S UM, THAT'S FOR THE NEXT, JUST FOR THREE MONTHS, 13,000 WOULD BE FOR, FOR THE SIX MONTHS THAT YOU NEED IT, OR THE THREE MONTHS IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY, IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY FOR LIKE THREE, FOUR MONTHS OF HELP FOR THEM. YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT. ADDING THAT IN. YEAH. SO, UM, MOVED TO ADOPT A 4% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR CITY STAFF WITH A $13,000, UM, ADDITION FOR TEMPORARY HR STAFFING , UH, CITY MANAGER, POLICE CHIEF, CAUSE THE POLICE CHIEF WAS, IT'S A, I'M SAYING A COST OF LIVING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL CITY STAFF. OKAY. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN HE PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLAREAL, SALVO SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON, GIVEN A 4%, UH, COST OF LIVING INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD AND 13,000 FOR HR SERVICES. THAT SOUND RIGHT. THAT INCLUDES JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THAT INCLUDES THE ADOPTING ANOTHER CLASSIFICATION STUDY THAT THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDATION DON'T PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED. THAT ALSO INCLUDES LIKE POLICE CHIEF ALSO. RIGHT? WHO WASN'T IT. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE? I'D JUST LIKE, OH, OH, I WAS GOING TO ASK TO CLARIFY THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. YEAH. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE? WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU. NOPE. OKAY. OKAY. SO I ADDED IT UP, RIGHT. BUT I'M NOT, SO WE'VE GOT 3 30, 2 DIVIDED IN HALF, AND THEN WE'VE GOT 64,000 FOR THE GENERAL FUNDS TO GET THE OTHER RAISES UP TO 4%. THAT'S ALSO DIVIDED IN HALF OR NO, RIGHT? YES. BUT WITH BENEFITS, IT'S ACTUALLY 76,000. SO IT WILL BE HALF OF 76, 76. OKAY. AND THEN HALF OF 26 FOR THE UTILITY FUND, I CAME UP WITH 238,000 IS WHAT I CALCULATED. I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THAT IS, BUT I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE 76,000 GENERAL FUND NUMBER OF THE 64, UM, THAT WAS TAKING, UM, TWO TO 4%, 64,000 DIVIDING THAT IN HALF TO 32. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WHO WAS 22, TAKING THAT DOWN TO 11. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO THE COMMON, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE US, I KNOW WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE 37 PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR JOBS IN 2020, BUT I DON'T KNOW MAY OR MAY DISAGREE WITH ME. WE WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT WERE HERE. WE WERE TOP HEAVY. I MEAN, I, I DON'T EXPECT THAT WE REALLY FULLY NEED TO GET BACK ALL 37 BECAUSE WE GET OVER HIRED. WOULD YOU AGREE? IN 2019 WE HAD SIX PEOPLE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO, I MEAN, SO WE DO, I MEAN, WE, WE ARE SHORT-STAFFED, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AS BAD AS KIND OF W WE KIND OF KNOW PERCEIVE OFTENTIMES BECAUSE WE WERE PRETTY TOP BABY. UM, AT THAT I THINK IT'S MOVED IN MY MIND IN SHORT STAFFING IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO AND THAT WE HAVE MORE PARKS. SO THERE'S MORE UPKEEP THERE WE HAVE IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE'VE PROBABLY ADDED 3000 HOMES. AND SO WE HAVE WHATEVER THAT CAUSES IN TERMS OF, UM, YEAH, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO, I MEAN, I THINK OVERALL IT'S GOING TO BE AN UNUSUAL BUDGET IN TERMS OF STAFFING, POSITIONS, MONEY, ALL THAT. BUT YEAH, IT IS. IF [02:40:01] YOU WOULD LIKE, I, YOU CAN PUT THIS ITEM ON HOLD FOR A MOMENT AND MAYBE DO SOME OF THE OTHERS. I CAN COME BACK WITH THE EXACT NUMBERS FOR YOU. IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES BACK. UM, UH, I PERSONALLY OKAY WITH WHATEVER THE NUMBERS ARE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE TALKING, SO THERE'LL BE A SECOND READING THAT I'LL HAVE THE CORRECT NUMBER OF SKIN FOR AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. HI. TELL SOME MEMBERS SUTTON I COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. I MAYOR SNYDER. TELL SOME MEMBER VILLA REAL SAVO, HOW SOME MEMBER HOLLAND MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. NEXT WE [11.3. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2022-020 reimbursing the park rental fees for Hutto Resource Center's 2022 Community Wide Appreciation Picnic in the amount of One Thousand Five Hundred Dollars ($1,500.00). (First Reading) (Cristian Rosas-Grillet)] HAVE ITEM 11, THREE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER OH DASH 2022 DEATHS 0 2 0. REIMBURSING THE PARK RENTAL FEES FOR A HUDDLE RESOURCE CENTERS, 2022 COMMUNITY-WIDE APPRECIATION PICNIC IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,500. SO MOVED BY, HOLD ON. MA'AM COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND APPROVING HAS PRESENTED DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLAREAL SALVO. WE'D LIKE TO SEE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM ON AN ORDINANCE, UM, ADDING IN SOMETHING TO OUR FEE, A FEE, UM, FEE SCHEDULE, EXCUSE ME, FEE SCHEDULE, UH, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SITUATIONS LIKE THIS FOR THE FUTURE, SINCE THIS IS JUST ADDRESSING THIS ONE EVENT, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US SO THAT STAFF IS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING THIS DECISION, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL, OR IF IT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL, WE ALREADY HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED WITH AN ORDINANCE TO, TO HANDLE THIS. OKAY. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO DO THAT. WE MAY NEED TO CHAT WITH YOU TO TRY TO GET SOME INDICATION OF WHAT TYPES OF EVENTS YOU WOULD BE INCLINED TO WAIVE THE FEES ON SO THAT WE DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR TOO MUCH. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, PLEASE SEND THEM TO STAFF. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. I TELL SOME MEMBER VILLA REAL SAVO. I MAY HAVE PRETEND THORTON ALSO MEMBER GORDON. I HOW SOME MEMBER CERTAIN I TELL SOME MEMBER OF KENZIE. I MAY SCHNEIDER. AYE. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11. WE'RE ABLE TO WAIVE SECOND READING. YES. I MOVED TO WAIVE SECOND READING ON THE LEFT 0.3. OKAY. SECOND READING WAVE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING, HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAYOR SNYDER, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. AWESOME RIVER SUTTON. I ALSO REMEMBER GORDON MAY HAVE A TIM THORTON. THAT'S A MEMBER VILLA REAL SAVO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE ITEM [11.4. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. 2022-016 amending Chapter 2, Article 2.03, Division 1 of the Code of Ordinances to adopt the city’s classification and compensation plan, as amended. (Second Reading) (Interim City Manager Isaac Turner)] 11 FOR CONSIDERATION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 2 DASH 0 1 6, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE 2.03 DIVISION. ONE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ADOPT THE CITY'S CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION PLAN AS AMENDED. SO IS THAT WHERE WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO FOUR? YEAH. SO WHAT'S PRESENT, SORRY. WHAT'S PRESENTED IN THERE. IT HAS THE 2% FOR THE OTHER EMPLOYEES IN THE 4% FOR PD ONLY, BUT PART OF THIS IS ALSO JUST ADOPTING THE ACTUAL PAY PLAN WITH THE RANGES AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE THE SECOND READING TO ADOPT THAT A PAY PLAN ITSELF AND THEN MAKE THAT CHANGE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RANGES, IF WE'RE OKAY. SWITCHING GEARS NOW FROM RETENTION TO RECRUITMENT, UM, IS THIS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? CITY MANAGER, TURNER, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN FLORIDA WHERE THERE'S THERE OPEN RECORDS. LAW IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTED THAN TEXAS. YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE NOTICED THAT WHEN I TALKED TO YOU, ONE OF YOU ABOUT SOMETHING, I VERY RARELY SAY ANYTHING TO THE OTHER PERSON, ANOTHER PERSON ON THE COUNCIL. SO LET ME DO THIS SINCE WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC SESSION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SALVO, AND I HAD A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION BASED ON SOME QUESTIONS THAT SHE HAD ABOUT PAY RANGES AND SALARY SURVEYS AND, [02:45:01] UM, HOW THEY'RE SET UP IN THE STRUCTURE. SO THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WHEN THE TWO OR 4% RESPECTIVELY IS, UH, APPROVED, DOES THAT MOVE THE RANGES OR DOES THAT MOVE PEOPLE OR JUST MOVE PEOPLE ALONG THE RANGES I SHARED WITH HER THAT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND CERTAINLY MY RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT MAG BROUGHT THAT IT WAS JUST TO MOVE PEOPLE ALONG. THE RANGES THAT THE RAIN STRUCTURE WAS SET UP IN THE MAG STUDY. THAT WAS PART OF WHY THEY WERE HIRED. AND SO THE 2% WERE MOVED THEM ALONG THE RANGES, UH, SAME ISSUE ON THE 4%. IS THAT JUST TO MOVE THE, THE, UH, EMPLOYEES ALONG THE RANGES TO GET THEM TO THE MIDPOINT QUICKER? OR DO WE MOVE THE RANGES? UH, ONE OF THE, UH, UH, COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SALVO MADE, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH OR ANYTHING WAS THAT, COULD WE DO 2% TO MOVE THE RANGE, WHICH WOULD ALSO CAUSE EMPLOYEES TO GET A 2% INCREASE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO MOVE THE RANGE AND THEN THE OTHER 2% TO MOVE EMPLOYEES, UH, WITHIN THE RANGE, IF I'VE CAPTURED THAT CORRECTLY. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I WAS CONCERNED WITH, UM, IF WE'RE DOING A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR OUR CURRENT STAFF, HOW ARE WE REFLECTING THAT IN THE RANGE THAT WAS REPRESENTED? DID MAG ALREADY INCLUDE THAT 2% IN THE RANGE THEY PRESENTED TO US? OR DID WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT 2% IN THAT RANGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO POTENTIAL HIRES THAT WE DO? WELL, LET ME ANSWER THAT THIS WAY, THE SALARY SURVEY IS SUPPOSED TO, UH, PROVIDE YOU WITH COMPETITIVE RANGES. THAT'S PART OF THE PURPOSE OF YOU DOING THAT SO THAT THEY PROVIDE YOU COMPETITIVE RANGES. I CANNOT SIT UP HERE HOWEVER, AND SAY THAT IF THOSE RANGES ARE MOVED UP 2%, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BREAK SOME GOLDEN RULE AND ALL HIS LOSS FROM THAT SORT OF THING I WOULD CAUTION YOU ABOUT, AND THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING NOW, BUT, UH, NOT TO MOVE IT TOO MUCH, NOT TO MOVE IT TO 4%, DO THE NEXT STUDY. AND IF THE FIRST ONE WAS OFF, THEN MAKE SOME CHANGES TO IT. I CAN'T SIT UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT IF YOU MOVE THE RANGE IS 2% AND IT JUST SHIFTED EMPLOYEES IN THE NEW RANGES. AND THEN THE OTHER 2% WOULD BE, UH, MOVING THEM WITHIN THAT RANGE. I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT'S A BAD THING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP JUST FOR EDIFICATION PURPOSES. THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHY I ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS OF CITY MANAGER, TURNER. UM, NOT THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M ADVOCATING. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS JUST WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF US TO HAVE, UM, CONSIDERING THE BUDGET IS SEASON IS UPON US. AND WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO DO ANOTHER SALARY STUDY. THAT'S MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE. UM, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S EASIER TO INCREASE, THEN TAKE AWAY RANGE. IT IS DOWN THE LINE. UM, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND JUST BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A 2% INCREASE ON THE RANGE, UM, WILLY NILLY, BUT, UH, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WORTHY OF HAVING A DISCUSSION AMONGST ALL OF US ON WHAT WE WERE THINKING. I LOST TRACK OF WHO'S NEXT. I THINK IT'S CUSTOMER NUMBER KINSEY. UM, I MEAN, I THINK MAG PUT THE RANGES THERE AND THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR WHOLE GOAL WAS TO LOOK AT IT. AND I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, THE CLIMATE AND THE INFLATION JUST OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS HAS REALLY CHANGED. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY AT WHAT POINT IN THEIR RESEARCH, BECAUSE IT DID TAKE A LOT LONGER TO GET THE SALARY STUDY BACK, YOU KNOW, WAS THAT, WAS THAT REFLECTIVE? UM, SO IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY HARD TO, TO MAKE THAT CALL. AND ESPECIALLY SINCE MAG THEMSELVES HAD CHANGES ON WHO WAS WORKING ON THE PROJECT. UM, SO THAT'S JUST REALLY, UM, A TOUGH CALL, I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT, HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. AND THEN IF WE WANT TO KIND OF DEEP DIVE INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE AND OF ALLOCATING MORE MONEY FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS, UM, OR MAYBE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY HAVING PROBLEMS ATTRACTING CANDIDATES, UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT THAT WAY UNTIL WE CAN GET A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY DONE THAT REALLY GIVES A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF ALL OF THE, NOT ONLY JUST COMPENSATION, BUT ALSO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, BENEFITS THAT GO INTO THAT COMPENSATION VERSUS JUST THE, THE, THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, SALARY. UM, SO FOR ME, I THINK I'M IN FAVOR AND JUST LEAVING IT, HOW IT IS FOR RIGHT NOW, THE RANGE IS HOW THEY ARE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN REALLY GET BETTER INFORMATION, LOOK AT IT, DO A BUDGET, DEEP DIVE. THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I AM. I THINK I AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PIECES RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, WE APPARENTLY WANT TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL [02:50:01] LOOKING AT S SALARIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE 37 INDIVIDUALS, UH, POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN AND HOW MANY OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE NECESSARY OR NOT. SO, YEAH, I, I THINK JUST LEAVING IT AS IS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US. WE GOT, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH PLATES SPINNING IN THE AIR. I AGREE. UM, THIS IS, UH, A STUDY THAT WE PAID FOR AND, YOU KNOW, IT CAME BACK WITH INFORMATION. WE HAVE, MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING MORE COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IT'S A STARTING POINT. UM, LIKE I SAID, AND LIKE EVERYONE SAID, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD ONE, IF WE NEED TO TWEAK IT, WE ALWAYS CAN DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE AND AS NEEDS ARISE. YEAH. I THINK, UM, UH, I'M KIND OF COMFORTABLE LEAVING THE RANGERS WHERE THEY ARE. I THINK THAT SOME OF THEM DO NEED TO CHANGE, BUT, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY RECRUITMENT ISSUES. I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN 18 HOUR, $18 AN HOUR JOB NOT GETTING FILLED, I DON'T KNOW THAT BOOSTING THAT 2% IS GOING TO MAKE ANY IMPACT AT ALL IN RECRUITMENT. UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A $52,000 POLICE OFFICER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE MUCH OF AN IMPROVEMENT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ENGINEERING POSITION WHERE THE ENGINEERING JOB MARKET IS CRAZY RIGHT NOW, 2% IS NOT MUCH AT ALL, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT TAKE A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE IF WE WANT IT TO ACTUALLY BE COMPETITIVE, BUT IS THAT EVEN THE RIGHT FINANCIAL ANSWER FOR THE CITY RIGHT NOW? THERE'S, OH, THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AROUND A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT IS KIND OF BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS RIGHT HERE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE NEED TO GET THE RIGHT DATA, GET THE RIGHT EXPERTISE, GET THE RIGHT ADVICE. AND THEN IF WE HAVE HOT ISSUES THAT COME UP, LIKE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE FILLING THE POLICE POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING SHORT TERM WE TO DO OUTSIDE OF THAT SCOPE? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THERE IS A CHIEF IN THE CITY MANAGER TELL US THERE IS THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. BUT I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, WE WANT TO DO THINGS IN A PLANNED WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT FOR THE EMERGENCIES AND THINGS THAT COME UP. SO MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, THERE'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF, OF WE DO POSITION BY POSITION. WE MAY DO A SIGNING BONUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PDS HAD A SIGNING BONUS PROGRAM. UH, I THINK WE DID ONE FOR INSPECTORS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE I'M REMEMBERING ANOTHER CITY THE WAY ANGIE'S LOOKING AT ME. SO WE'LL JUST SKIP THAT ONE. BUT WE TRY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IN PARTICULAR IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HIRING PEOPLE. AND SO WE DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS OF THAT FOR ONE TIME COMPONENTS OF THAT. AND IF SOMEBODY COMES TO THE TABLE AND THEY'VE GOT, UM, A POLICE, OFFICER'S GOT 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SOMEWHERE ELSE, PLUS A MASTER, UH, POLICE PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION, WE MAY HIRE THEM ABOVE THE ENTRY, UM, AND SEVERAL STEPS ABOVE THE ENTRY, JUST COMMENSURATE, WHAT THEY EXPERIENCE AND SKILLS THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE. SO YOU HAVE SOME BUILT-IN EXPERT, SOME BUILT IN FLEXIBILITY FOR US HR FINANCE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT COME TOGETHER. AND WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE. UM, AND NOT WITHSTANDING THAT. IT'S JUST A VERY TOUGH JOB MARKET AROUND HERE. AND IT'S A GOOD THING FOR WORKERS, BUT IT IS A TOUGH JOB MARKET. UM, I FEEL THAT MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH MY GOD, THIS, THIS CONVERSATION IS EXHAUSTIVE, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON, ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT CONFIRMS THAT THERE IS FURTHER DATA AND STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADEQUATELY RECRUITING AND RETAINING THE BEST THAT WE CAN HAVE HERE IN HADOW. UM, AND THAT'S THE IDEAL FOR OUR STAFFING SIZE. SO, UM, I AM DEFINITELY ON BOARD WITH WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN SAYING, WE'RE, LET'S KEEP IT AS MAG HAS RECOMMENDED. AND AS WE GO FURTHER INTO THE RATE STUDIES AND, UM, POSITION SURVEYS THAT WE, UH, ADJUST AS NEEDED AND NECESSARY. UH, SO I'M, I'M GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND THE ONLY AMENDMENT TO IT, JUST MAKING IT 4% RATHER THAN 2%. YEAH. AND SINCE YOU DON'T, I HEARD A LOT OF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS RIGHT, AND I KNOW WE, WE OURSELVES HAVE HAD SOME CONCERNS. UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, I MIGHT ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUSH FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, INTERIM CITY MANAGER TURNER SAID, WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER STUDY AND ALL THAT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WILL MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET AND THAT YOU WILL ENCOURAGE STAFF TO MOVE ON THAT, UH, SOONER THAN LATER TO GET THAT INFORMATION. THEN I THINK THAT ALL OF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RECOMMENDATION. SO I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH ANYTHING THAT ANYONE SAID, CONSTABLE GORDON, EITHER, RIGHT? A LITTLE BIT UP [02:55:01] FOR THE, FOR A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE 11 FOUR WITH THE AMENDMENT FROM 2% TO 4% OR TO ACCEPT. OKAY, WELL, IT SHOULD BY COUNCIL MEMBER, SALVO, SALVO SECONDED BY COUNSELOR, EMBER, KENZIE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. MAYOR SNYDER. NOW SOME MEMBERS SAID, AYE, AYE. AYE. AYE. NOW SOMEONE FOR GORDON MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. I DIDN'T VOTE. OH, OOPS. IT'S TOO FAST. NELSON MEMBER KINSEY BEHALF OF MANY OF THE STAFF OR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEY WILL BE VERY APPRECIATIVE HAVING HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MEETINGS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT THAT [12.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.] BRINGS UP ITEM 12, ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS REAPPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISON, SOME AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I HAVE A, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT, RANDALL CLARK. HELLO. MY NAME IS RONALD CLARK. I SPOKE WITH MANY OF Y'ALL BEFORE, UM, A YEAR AGO IN JUNE. UH, I WAS APPOINTED TO THE EDC AND MAYOR SNYDER. YOU ASKED ME, WOULD I STAY ON P AND Z OR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF I WAS ON THE EDC AND I COMMITTED TO YOU THAT I WOULD FINISH OUT MY TERM, BUT THEN I WOULD NOT SEEK TO BE RENOMINATED OR APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD. SO THAT'S WHY, UH, COMMISSIONER COUNCILMAN GORDON SPECIFIED TONIGHT THAT, UH, TUESDAY WAS MY LAST DAY FOR THE, UH, PNC AND ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE MEETINGS. SO I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT TONIGHT, SO Y'ALL COULD FIND REPLACEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN STAY AT A FULL BOARD FOR BOTH AFTER I'VE SERVED FOR FOUR YEARS ON THOSE TWO, UH, COMMITTEES. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHY, CAUSE I'M KEEPING THE COMMITMENT THAT I MADE TO YOU A YEAR AGO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT. AS A COMMITTEE, HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? UH, YEAH, SO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MET AND INTERVIEWED A ONE CANDIDATE FOR THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TASK FORCE. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH THE NAME OF CAT SKIING, UH, TO BE NOMINATED TO THAT TASK FORCE. WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND. IT'S A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND POINTING CAT SCAN TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS BOARD OR TASK FORCE. I'M SORRY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. I TELL SOME OF HER HOLLAND HI MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. I TELL SOME MEMBER GORDON. HI MAYOR SNYDER. I ALSO REMEMBER VILLARREAL SALVO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, AYE, MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THIS? NO, I DON'T MOVE ON. ITEM 12, THREE PRESENTATION [12.3. Presentation of the Second Quarter Financial Report for the quarter ending March 31, 2022. (Angie Rios)] OF THE SECOND QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE QUARTER ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2022 QUICKLY. THE QUARTER ENDING. I SAID WE'RE 50% THROUGH THE YEAR, HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR HERE. SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THINGS ARE LOOKING VERY WELL. YOU CAN TELL FROM THE CHARTS HERE, THE REVENUES ARE DOING GREAT. THEY ARE AT 70, ALMOST 78% OF THE BUDGET. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NORMAL PLACE FOR IT TO BE WITH THE AVALARA COLLECTIONS. BEING EARLY IN THE YEAR, UM, SALES TAXES AT 46% OF THE BUDGET ALREADY, AND WITH ONLY FIVE MONTHS OF COLLECTIONS. SO NOT QUITE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR THERE AND PERMITS ARE AT 86% OF THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO THE, UH, THE REVENUES THAT YOU SEE THERE. SO WE'RE STILL DOING, WE'RE DOING VERY WELL. UM, EXPENDITURES ARE WELL BELOW THE BUDGET. THEY ARE ONLY AT ABOUT 35% OF THE BUDGET. AND, UH, THE BIGGEST CAUSE FOR THAT IS THE PERSONNEL THAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT. UM, THAT'S THE BIGGEST EXPENDITURE IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S ONLY AT 37% OF THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR AT 50% OF THE YEAR. SO THAT IS SEE WHEN, WHEN TWO THIRDS OF YOUR BUDGET IS PERSONNEL AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT EVEN AT THE 50% MARKET, 50% OF THE YEAR. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THAT. WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS TOO, THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THE WORKS [03:00:01] AND BIGGER ITEMS IN THERE THAT I KNOW ARE STARTING SIDEWALKS AND ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET GOING, WHICH WILL, WILL IMPACT THIS BOTTOM LINE TOO. BUT, UM, I THINK PERSONNEL IS YOUR BIGGEST FACTOR IN THOSE LOW EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS TRUE FOR, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PRIOR YEAR THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT TOO. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR HEAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALES TAX AND SOME OF THE AD VALOREM AND HOW IN THE PRIOR YEAR HE SAW THAT DECREASE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE DO HAVE SOME THREE 80 AGREEMENTS THAT AS THOSE TEXAS GROW IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS, THEY'RE GETTING MORE MONEY BACK. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT TREND PROBABLY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WE DO HAVE IN PLACE ALREADY. UM, I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET THE NEXT REPORT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IN A COUPLE OF THESE, UH, REVENUE ITEMS ACTUALLY DECREASE BECAUSE OF THE LARGE, UH, RE REIMBURSEMENT WE JUST DID ON SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS. SO, UM, THAT IS PART OF JUST SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT, UM, DON'T EXPIRE FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS OR SO YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT, BUT ON THAT NOTE SALES TAX IS, UM, IS STILL GOING STRONG. I SAID, UH, WE'RE AT 46% OF THE BUDGET WITH FIVE MONTHS COLLECTED. OH, WE SAW ANOTHER GREAT MONTH. UM, THE FIVE MONTHS YEAR OVER YEAR IS UP 18 AND A HALF PERCENT. SO, UM, THAT'S A GOOD, STRONG NUMBER. IF WE CONTINUE AT THAT AVERAGE, WE WILL FAR EXCEED THE BUDGET NUMBER THAT WE HAVE THERE, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY CONSERVATIVE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING THE ADOPTION, BUT THAT WE'LL EITHER ADD MORE MONEY TO THE FUND BALANCE OR GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED LATER ON. SO, UM, BUT NO END IN SIGHT WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY AT, UH, EIGHT, 9% INFLATION THAT WE'RE SEEING AGAIN, I ASKED YOU THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU DO A FINANCIAL PRESENTATION, THE YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO INFLATION, RIGHT? THE COMPANY THAT WE PAID TO DO THE ANALYSIS, ESTIMATES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE INCREASE, WE'RE SEEING OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE INCREASE WE'RE SEEING HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR MONTH, JUST IN THE FEBRUARY COLLECTIONS FOR THAT WE GOT IN APRIL WAS DUE TO INFLATION. SO THEY'RE SAYING IT'S AN EIGHT TO 9% AVERAGE RIGHT NOW IN WHAT WE'RE SEEING IMPACTING THE SALES TAX NUMBERS. SO YEAH, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, MISINFORMATION BEING PRESENTED ABOUT IT BEING BECAUSE OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH OR OTHER PRODUCTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE DID THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR STAFF JUST NOW IS, UM, INFLATION IS HUGE, HUGE, AND OBVIOUSLY CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SEEN A POPULATION INCREASE IN THIS AREA, SO THAT SPENDING SOME OF IT, A LOT OF IT IS HAPPENING HERE IN TOWN, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT. SO THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF IT TOO, WHICH IS AGAIN, LIKE SAY THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO GO TO YOUR GROCERY STORE OR YOUR HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE, THOSE THINGS. SO THAT ALSO BENEFITS US, UM, WHICH IS GOOD TO SEE. SO, AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR UTILITY FUND HERE, UM, WHICH AGAIN, THIS IS EVIDENT OF THE GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR REVENUES ARE AT 57% AT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE GROWING, WE'VE GOT MORE CUSTOMERS COMING ON BOARD AND THE EXPENDITURES ARE RIGHT AT, AT 49, 50%. SO THEY ARE RIGHT ON TARGET AS TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. UM, WHICH AGAIN, WITH THE GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IS NOT, UH, IS WHERE YOU WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE. SO, BUT THOSE, THOSE REVENUES, UH, WITH THE INCREASE IN THE CUSTOMERS, WE'RE SEEING THAT. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. LET'S MOVE ON TO HOLLAND. I THINK YOU'RE NEXT. UM, I THINK I DO NOT HAVE QUESTIONS. I DO NOT HAVE QUESTIONS LOOKS GOOD. I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. SO IN YOUR OPINION, THE STAFFING SHORTAGES, THE, THE STRUGGLE WE'RE HAVING IN HIRING PEOPLE WITH WHAT'S DRIVING THAT, IS IT BECAUSE OUR WAGES THAT WE'RE OFFERING ARE TOO LOW? IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A DEARTH OF THE RIGHT QUALIFIED PEOPLE FOR THE RIGHT POSITIONS? OKAY. I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF MANY THINGS. I THINK IN SOME POSITIONS IT MAY BE THE RATE, UM, BUT IN OTHERS IT'S GOING TO BE COMPETITION THINGS LIKE IT AND ENGINEERING AND THINGS THAT THERE'S A JUST, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON THE MARKETPLACE, UH, PD, YOU CAN'T, IF YOU COULD FIND A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S FULLY STAFFED, GOOD LUCK, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THAT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THAT AREA. UM, SO IT'S JUST, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE POSITION ITSELF. UM, SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, AT 17 AND $18, THEY CAN PROBABLY, THERE'S PROBABLY LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THAT SAME WAGE. AND DO THEY WORK OUT HERE IN THE SUN AND THE HEAT ON OUR STREETS STAFF, OR, YOU KNOW, AS A WATER METER TECHNICIAN OR THOSE THINGS, BUT, UM, [03:05:01] YOU KNOW, THAT'S HARD TO SAY IT'S NOT ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S HELPFUL. DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANKS ANGIE. THANK YOU. PROBABLY BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 13, FIVE OUT INTO THE PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13, FIVE [13.5. Receive legal advice pursuant to Texas Government Code Sec. 551.071 related to litigation matters and litigation bills of the Russell Rodriguez Hyde Bullock Law Firm representing the City or its former and current officers.] RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5 5 1 DASH ZERO SEVEN. ONE RELATED TO LITIGATION MATTERS AND LITIGATION BILLS OF THE RUSSELL RODRIGUEZ, HYDE BULLOCK LAW FIRM REPRESENTING THE CITY, OR IT'S FIRMER, UH, SORRY. IT'S FORMER AND CURRENT OFFICERS. I BELIEVE THIS IS CUSTOMER VILLEREAL SALVOS ITEM. SO WE'LL LET YOU GO FIRST. UH, SO ACTUALLY A COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, AND I BOTH REQUESTED THIS ITEM, UM, AND WE HAD ASKED FOR IT TO BE ON THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA, NOT IN AN EXECUTIVE. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION FOR MONTHS. UM, JUST FIRST, IT WAS FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THEN IT BECAME BECAUSE OF A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANTING TO KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT IS TML COVERING, WHAT IS THE CITY COVERING, ET CETERA. AND SO, UM, THIS INFORMATION IS FOR THE MOST PART, THERE IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. AND, UH, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH JUST A SIMPLE SUMMATION OF THIS AS WHAT HAS BEEN PAID OUT TO TML. THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN PAID BY CITY OF HADOW, ET CETERA. UM, THERE, I DIDN'T NEED THE FULL GAMBIT OF WHAT WE RECEIVED. I APPRECIATE IT THOUGH. UM, BUT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON HAD SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS DISCUSSION, BUT THAT WAS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC. WHAT WAS TML AND WHAT WAS CITY OF HADOW PAYOUTS? YEAH, I, I DIDN'T KNOW. WE WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, PUT IT ON AN AGENDA. I WAS JUST ASKING OUR ATTORNEYS WHERE WE WERE AT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY LAWSUITS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, WITH WHAT, AND WHAT'S BEEN SETTLED, WHAT'S BEEN APPEALED AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND SO I JUST SAID, HEY, CAN WE GET A SUMMARY OF LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT IN A RUNDOWN OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS? UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AND IT WAS VERY DETAILED EMAIL. SO I, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT. UM, AND JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOME DOCUMENTS TO CANVASSY FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, HOW THESE ARE GOING TO KIND OF CHUGGING THROUGH THE SYSTEM. SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE, THE JONES LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING COVERED BY CML WHAT ISN'T, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FAR LESS, THAT ISN'T COVERED THAN I WAS THAN I WAS THINKING, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR ME. SO, ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SETTLE THEIR PROTEST. IT WAS GOOD TO GET THE INFORMATION, UM, IN THE FORM THAT IT'S IN. I'M NOT SURE. I MEAN, PEOPLE, PEOPLE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING, BUT WHILE YOU HAVE ACTIVE CASES, YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM EVERYTHING. AND SO TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE EVERYTHING PEOPLE WANT TO SEE RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO ALL SEE IT AND REVIEW IT AND KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT AND SEVEN PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS. BUT, UM, IF WE ALL REVIEW IT AND GO FROM THERE, WELL, I HAD A COUPLE THOUGHTS. UM, ONE IS THAT EVERY, EVERY TIME WE'VE ENTERED INTO A LAWSUIT ON OUR OWN BEHALF, WE AS A COUNCIL, HAVE WE HAVE ENGAGED THE LAW FIRM MADE A VOTE AND PROCEEDED WITH IT. IN MY MIND, I WON'T READ THE, I WENT BACK THROUGH THE, UH, THE OATH WE TAKE AND THE OATH IN MY MIND, I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE TAKE A NOTE TO UPHOLD THE UNITED STATES, CONSTITUTION, TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND THE LAWS. AND WHEN THINGS ARE BROUGHT UP, THAT WE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DUG A HOLE FOR THREE YEARS, DOING THINGS WRONG, ILLEGAL, INVALID, AND I HATE SPENDING MONEY MORE THAN ANYBODY, BUT TO FILL THAT HOLE IT'S I THINK IT WAS ME, THE CITY MANAGER. WE'RE TALKING, YOU HAVE TO COMPACT THE DIRT. WHEN YOU PUT IT BACK DOWN AS IF IT COSTS YOU 2 MILLION TO DIG THE HOLE, IT PROBABLY IS GOING TO COST YOU FOUR MONEY TO DIG IT OUT. AND SO I CAN'T WITH GOOD CONSCIENCE, JUST SAY, WELL, IT'S CHEAPER JUST TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING AND JUST FORGET IT EVER HAPPENED, BECAUSE [03:10:01] THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAD THE ISSUE WE HAD, I THINK TO BEGIN WITH. UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE DON'T WAIT FOR AN AGENDA ITEM JUST BECAUSE WE SEE GEORGE IN OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. ONCE A MONTH, WE JUST ASKED A QUESTION THERE AND ASKED FOR UPDATES ON COST AND THINGS BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S NO SENSE IN WAITING. THE LAST THING I WOULD CAUTION EVERYBODY ON IS WE HAVE, THERE'S THIS CRAZY HABIT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN A POSITION THAT IS ADVERSARIAL TO HADOW FREQUENTLY ARE ASKING FOR INFORMATION. AND SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE INTERACTING WITH, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THEM. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS A COUNCIL, WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING AND WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE PASSING ON, BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT SOMEONE WHO'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT INFORMATION AGAINST US. SO WHENEVER WE'RE ASKING, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE ATTORNEYS, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT YOUR FRIEND, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENGAGED AGAINST HADOW. AND SO IF WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT HUDDLE, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT BASICALLY HELPING THE ENEMY. SO TO SAY, BUT OF ORDER, HOLD ON, SORRY. YOU SKIPPED ME. YOU STARTED OFF FIRST. I WAS INTRODUCING THE ITEM AS YOU ASKED. SO, UM, NO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UM, CHRISTIAN, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET A SUMMATION DOCUMENT OR SOME, UH, DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN PUT ONLINE BECAUSE IT IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW THIS IS HOW MUCH TML HAS COVERED, OR THIS IS HOW MUCH THE CITY OF HADOW IS COVERING FOR OUR LITIGATION. THAT IS ONGOING. THEY DON'T NEED, BECAUSE THERE'S ONGOING LITIGATION, THE DETAILS THEY CAN'T HAVE. BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE THE NUMBER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT'S BEING ASKED OFTEN. AND I MEAN, IT'S TAKEN ME SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS TO GET THIS INFORMATION. AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO CAPTURE IT AND PUT IT OUT THERE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE IT. THERE'S NO ISSUE. I MEAN, THAT'S, THE NUMBERS ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION. AND SO IT'S, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED, THE ACTUAL AMOUNT SPENT AND HOW IT'S SPENT AND WHO PAYS FOR IT, THAT CAN BE COMPILED. I CAN GET WITH GEORGE TO SEE IF HE CAN JUST GIVE ME THE SUMMARY NUMBERS AND THEN PROVIDE IT, THE STAFF. AND IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE, BECAUSE THAT, AGAIN IS ALL OF THESE DETAILS ARE GREAT FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE OBVIOUSLY FOR US TO BE PROVIDING OVERSIGHT. UM, BUT IN OUR DUTY TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE ARE ALL BIG ON, UM, I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO THEM AND UPDATE IT REGULARLY, IF POSSIBLE. AND SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE, THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTY, BUT A LOT OF, SOME OF THE REASONS FOR SOME OF THESE LAWSUITS, IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE AUDIT, WE HAVE $25 MILLION IN LIABILITY AGAINST THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION. A LOT OF THAT IS TIED UP IN SOME OF THESE LAWSUITS. AND SO THE RISK OF, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THINK, OH, YOU SHOULD JUST SETTLE THE LAWSUITS. AND WELL, IF YOU SETTLE A LAWSUIT AND IT COSTS THE CITY OF $25 MILLION, THAT IS A WHOLE LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE LEGAL BILLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND SO IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RE RE PRESENT LEGAL CASES FOR ALL THESE CASES OUT THERE, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW SUMMARIZE WHAT THE DISPUTES ARE THAT ARE WHAT, WHAT IS IN DISPUTE AND WHAT THE RISK IS FOR THE CITY. UM, IF WE WERE TO NOT BE LITIGATING SOME OF THESE THINGS, I AGREE. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A PLACE ON THE WEBSITE THAT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THESE ARE THE LAWSUITS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN. HERE'S A BRIEF SUMMATION OF IT AND WHAT THE RISK IS AND WHY WE'RE UNDERGOING IT. I HAVE NOTHING WRONG WITH US BEING IN APPROPRIATE LITIGATION. I MEAN, THAT THAT'S NORMAL FOR A CITY. UM, BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ALSO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED AND, AND JUST LETTING THEM KNOW INFORMING THIS IS HOW MUCH IS BEING COVERED BY US AND BY DML. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. UM, AND TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT ON OUR ENEMIES, I, I DON'T, THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. THE NUMBERS ARE AND FAKE AND FOIL IT AND MAKE A PUBLIC REQUEST. AND I'M SURE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT INFORMATION IF THEY WERE IN THE LAWSUIT THEMSELVES. BUT, UM, [03:15:02] I MEAN, THIS IS JUST MY CASE HERE IS I'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER REGULARLY, AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE RUNAROUND. I'VE NOT BEEN ANSWERED DIRECTLY. I'VE HAD A HOLD ON, WAIT, I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU. OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY GIVE THAT OUT YET. AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS NOW. AND SO IF IT'S THAT DIFFICULT FOR ME AND ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SIT UP HERE AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS FOR DOCUMENTS, THAT WE ARE ALL BY, RIGHT. HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PROCESS. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM ASKING THIS QUESTION AND HAVING IT ON AN AGENDA. UM, THAT WASN'T MY INTENT INITIALLY, TO HAVE IT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT IT AND WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS AND NOT THE HEARSAY. SO I CONCLUDE TO A BOARD AD CUSTOMER. REMEMBER THAT? WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY, I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A, I THINK THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIA RAIL CELL, AND I KIND OF WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS INFORMATION. I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A SEPARATE FROM HER. I DIDN'T KNOW, SHE WAS ASKING FOR ANYTHING. I SENT AN EMAIL SUNDAY TO GEORGE AND SAID, HEY, UM, WHERE ARE WE AT ON ALL THIS STUFF? AND SO IT WAS TOTALLY SEPARATE. I WASN'T ASKING FOR AN AGENDA ITEM. I WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING TRACK OF, OF EVERYTHING. CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE ME A SUMMARY AND GIVE ME SOME DOCUMENTS SO I CAN READ THROUGH THEM. AND, AND THAT WAS KINDA MY REQUEST. AND SO, UM, BUT NOW THAT IT IS HERE AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT AS A COUNCIL, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, OUR LITIGATION ATTORNEY GEORGE HIDE. UM, MAYBE TELL US WHAT IN THIS EMAIL, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD SUMMARIES HERE. AND I THINK A VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S IN LAWSUITS AND IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN PUBLIC LAWSUITS. AND SO WHAT WE COULD SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC AND BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, OR THAT WOULD DAMAGE THE CITY OR THAT WOULD PUT US IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT IN A, IN A CURRENT LAWSUIT. UM, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO JUST GET IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE IN THE ASSUMPTIONS. PEOPLE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, AND THEN YOU KIND OF START PUTTING THE PINS IN YOUR, IN YOUR BOARD AND TYING YOUR RED STRING TO IT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT GOING ON. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MAKE THIS ASSUMPTION, THEREFORE, THIS MUST BE TRUE. THEREFORE, THIS MUST BE TRUE. THEREFORE THIS MUST BE TRUE. AND SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT, I'VE SEEN IT LIKE, NAH. AND SO I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR US JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S A, HERE'S A SUMMARY OF ALL THE LAWSUITS, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST GET IT OUT THERE AND GET THE TRUTH OUT THERE. SO PEOPLE DON'T, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING TONIGHT. I SAID TO THAT COUNCILOR GORDON, CHRISTIAN, CAN YOU ALSO WORK WITH YEAH. YEAH. SO I'LL WORK WITH GEORGE TO GET THE NUMBERS. THE TML NUMBERS MAY BE DIFFERENT. THERE'S OTHER, NOT CITY INFORMATION, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN GET NUMBERS OF WHAT HAS BEEN PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR ON THE CITY SIDE FOR THE LITIGATION COSTS. AND JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY OF PENDING LITIGATION. THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION AS FAR AS ALLEGATIONS AND WHAT THE RISK IS, AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE IT, UH, STAFF. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE COMING TO HOW-TO AND IF YOU JUST KIND OF PERUSE THE PAGES, YOU'RE LIKE IT IS, AND TO GO BACK, YOU KNOW, WATCH THREE YEARS WORTH OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IT IS IT'S A LOT. AND I MEAN, I'M JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH AND COUNTING. I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN DIFFERENT LAWSUITS AND WE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT POSITIONS. I THINK WE'RE DEFENDANTS IN FOUR AND PLAINTIFFS IN THREE. SO IT'S JUST VERY LIKE SMORGASBORD. SO, UM, IT IS DEFINITELY HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF WHICH ONE IS WHICH, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE SOME ENTITIES WERE INVOLVED IN MORE THAN ONE, SO IT IS VERY, VERY CONFUSING. UM, AND GEORGE IS HERE AT OUR DISPOSAL FOR QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT IN WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING JUST TO HAVE A BRIEF KIND OF SUMMATION. AND OF COURSE THESE ARE, UM, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL'S OPINIONS. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD ALSO KIND OF BE DENOTED AS WELL, THAT THIS IS KIND OF THEIR OPINIONS, OBVIOUSLY. SO WE'RE IN A LAWSUIT AND NONE OF WHAT IS BEING SAID IS, IS FINAL AS A FINAL NUMBER OR FINAL. UM, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. NO, FOR ME, I THINK THE, UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NUMBERS BEING PUT OUT AND EVEN A SUMMATION. UM, ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ATTORNEY B WHO MAKES THE SUMMATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET SO MUCH INFORMATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN, UM, INTENTIONALLY ARE NOT AS [03:20:01] A CONVERSATION COMES UP. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME OF US THAT ARE OVERSTEPPING OUR ETHICAL BOUNDARIES OF MAKING A COMMENT. AND SO IF THE ATTORNEY IS WHO MAKES THAT COMMENT, THEN, UM, WE'RE BEST TO JUST KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT. I AGREE. UH, SO I'LL INVITE EVERYBODY LESS THAN FOUR TO COME TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ROOM IT IS, BUT WE HAVE A DEPOSITION TOMORROW, WHICH IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. IT'LL PROBABLY BE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX HOURS, BUT IT TIES UP A LOT OF THE THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THAT IS THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS, THE REASON ARE RELATED IS BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE LOSE ONE, THEY GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT AVENUE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO WIN. AND SO THE IDEA IS TO WEAR US DOWN TO WHERE WE JUST GIVE UP AND PAY OUT MONEY, BUT TOMORROW'S DEPOSITION SHOULD BE A GOOD ONE. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHO IT'S WITH, BUT I TOOK OFF YESTERDAY TO PREP FOR IT. I'M TAKING UP. MOST OF MY VACATION TIME IS FOR DEPOSITIONS. SO I HEAR YOU OVER TWO OR THREE YEARS, IT'S TOUGH TO TELL YOUR FAMILY EVERY YEAR YOU HAD A VACATION TIME. CAUSE YOU SPENT IT ALL IN COURTROOMS, BUT WE'LL BE DOING THAT HERE. SO YOU GUYS ARE INVITED TO COME. IT'S GOING TO BE HERE. HEY, BRING EVERYBODY IN. AND, AND ALL THE LAWYERS WILL TAKE A ROOM AND WE ALL SIT THERE AND THEN THEY GRILL YOU FOR THREE TO SIX HOURS AND THAT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. CORRECT? OH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO YEAH, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS MORE GETTING THE NUMBERS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S, I THINK WE DID JUST GET THOSE IN JANUARY. UM, I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. WE DID JUST GET ALL THESE NUMBERS IN JANUARY. SO THIS YEAR WOULD BE AN UPDATE FROM JANUARY THREE MONTHS AGO. GOTCHA. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. RIGHT? ANYTHING ELSE FOR 13 FIVE? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HEAD BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 10 22 FOR ITEM 13, ONE RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH ZERO SEVEN. ONE RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUEST, POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUEST, ITEM 13 TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 7 1 AND DELIBERATE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 5 1 DASH 0 8 7 AND 5 5 1 DASH 0 7 2 REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS IN AND AROUND THE MEGA SITE AND CONSIDERATION AND CONVEYANCE OF ASSIGNMENT AND ASSUMPTION AGREEMENTS, CONVEYING OPTION TO PURCHASE REAL PROPERTY AGREEMENTS TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ITEM 13, THREE RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH ZERO SEVEN. ONE RELATING TO BROOKLYN'S PARTNERS LIMITED VERSUS CITY OF HUDDLE. CAUSE NUMBER TWO, TWO, ENDED IN THE 425TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. AND FINALLY, ITEM 13, FOUR RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 7 1 AND DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 8 7 TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO BUSINESS PROSPECTS, INCLUDING DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE SALE EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 0 7 2 TIMES 10 23 ISAAC DOWN HERE UPSTAIRS, RIGHT. IT'S 1142. BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ITEM 14, ONE CONSIDERATION [14.1. Consideration and possible action related to legal advice received pursuant to Texas Government Code Sec. 551.071 related to Pending Legal Requests, Potential Claims and City Council Legal Requests.] POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION FIVE, FIVE, ONE.ZERO SEVEN, ONE RELATED DEPENDING ON LEGAL REQUEST, POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUESTS, ANYTHING THERE. ALL RIGHT, SO I GOT A COUPLE LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM REGARDING INVALID AND OR ILLEGAL USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS REGARDING WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A SCHEME BY OTIS JONES AND BILL BINGHAM TO HIRE, UH, LARRY GONZALEZ AS A CONSULTANT FOR THE PERFECT GAME DEAL AT A RATE THAT I'M POSITIVE WAS NOT A COINCIDENCE BECAUSE THE RATE WAS $4,000 A MONTH FOR 12 MONTHS, 48,000. MY CONCERN WAS THAT THIS IS PAID THROUGH OUR THEN CITY ATTORNEYS AT THE TIME. IT WAS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. AND IT'S A DOCUMENT FOR YOU GUYS AS REFERENCED JULY 30TH, 2019 FROM BILL BEING TO OLDEST JONES AND MICHELLE SORRELL R E CONSULTANT SERVICES WITH LARRY GONZALEZ. SO THAT CAN BE ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO RELEASE IT TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. [03:25:01] THIS COULD BE A BIG LEGAL ONE. IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS ASKED FOR INFORMATION REGARDING EMAILS SENT BY IN-BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBER, VILLAREAL, SALVO, AND STAFF REGARDING THE REPAYMENT OF MONEY OWED TO THE CITY AND THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT BEING RELEASED. SO I LIKE THIS PARTICULAR EMAIL, GIVE THE DATE OR THE NEXT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION ON THE RELEASE OF IT. BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT TO RELEASE IT. AND THEN ALSO, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT CONVERSATION GOES, THAT MAY LEAD INTO AN INQUIRY INTO WHY THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT BEING RELEASED ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND THAT DOCUMENT IS, WAS SENT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2021 AT 6:18 PM. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021 AT 1:56 PM. SO PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THESE, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEM. ISN'T THAT A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN SIMPLY ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEYS OR CITY MANAGER TO LOOK INTO. CAUSE I HAVE, I'VE GIVEN ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FORWARD. IT'S JUST AN ITEM REQUESTS DUE TO MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC SEEKING INFORMATION AND THE STUFF THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE CITY IS NOT, IT'S NOT CORRECT. JUST BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IN THE PAST MAYOR, YOU HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO STAFF AND ASK FOR THESE THINGS. AND THE TWO ENTITIES THAT WE HIRE, OUR CITY ATTORNEYS AND OUR CITY MANAGER. SO IF SOMETHING'S NOT GETTING DONE, WHY AREN'T WE ASKING THEM DIRECTLY? DID YOU ASK THEM? AND THEN WE'RE HAVING AN AGENDA ITEM OR THEY DON'T PULL THE INFORMATION. STAFF PULLS THE INFORMATION MI WHO WORKS FOR OUR LAW FIRM IS WHO'S IN COMMUNICATION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEBATE THE ITEM. OKAY. THAT'S FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM OR THE NEXT MEETING. THAT'S WHEN WE DEBATE THE ITEM, IF YOU WANT IT, THE PROCESS, WE COULD PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PROCESS AND HOW INFORMATION IS WHO PULLS THE INFORMATION, WHO REDACTED, WHO GIVES IT? I DON'T MIND ON THAT. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS TO BE RELEASED. ONE OF THEM IS A LEGAL MEMO. SO I CAN'T GET, I CAN'T GET A LEGAL MEMO OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT THE CAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEWING IT AND DECIDING TO DO IT. SO, I MEAN, I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION. OKAY. IT ACTUALLY, IT HASN'T BEEN RULED ON THAT. THERE IS MONEY OWED, CORRECT? CORRECT. INCORRECT. OH, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS AN AGENT ROOM, THERE WAS A RULING, THERE WAS A RULING BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THE MINE NEEDED TO BE PAID. NO, THERE WASN'T. THAT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. IT, MY UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE MEMOS SAYING NO, AND THAT WE, AND THEN WE SPENT LIKE SIX COUNCIL MEETINGS ON IT. AND THEN WE ALL DECIDED JUST TO SEND IT TO THE AG AND THEN MY OPINION, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING BACK FROM THE AG. SO THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS LEFT. UM, IS THAT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE, I THINK ME, IF I'M WRONG, ARE WE DEBATING AN ISSUE? THE AGENDA, IT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, COUNSEL EXPECTATIONS, MAYOR, TWO ITEMS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP RIGHT NOW ARE COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE HOURS OF US BEING UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO CAMPAIGN. AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE. WHEN YOU COULD BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO OUR TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE HIRE. AND IT DEFINITELY FEELS LIKE A VERY PERSONAL POINTED VENDETTA THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW. AND IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL. UM, AND I HAVE COMPLETE RECOURSE TO BE SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW, YOUR OPINION, BY THE WAY, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF US SAY UP HERE IS MY OPINION IS AT BENEFITS OF COUNSEL TO BE TRANSPARENT. IF PEOPLE GO OUT AND SAY ONE THING INTO PUBLIC AND THEN COME UP AND SAY ANOTHER, THEN I SAY, WE SELL IT ON A DIOCESE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. AND ALL THIS DEBATING ON AN ITEM, W WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ON, WELL, MINE WASN'T A DEBATE. MINE WAS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WITH PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, THAT THERE WAS NOT A RULING WE'RE WAITING ON THE AG. SO THAT MINE WAS JUST A CLARIFICATION RULING BY THE CITY OF PAUL MAYOR. PLEASE TELL US WHAT DAY THAT THERE WAS A RULING BY THE CITY ATTORNEYS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE ATTORNEYS THAT ALL WEIGHTED ON THIS, AND THERE WAS NO RULING, BUT ANY OF THEM, ANY OF THEM, UNDOCUMENTATION IN A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS RECORDED. WE'RE GETTING OFF, WE'RE GETTING OFF THE SUBJECT, YOU BROUGHT IT UP, YOU BROUGHT IT UP EMAIL FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT. BUT HE PREFACED IT WITH THE MONEY THAT WAS RULED THAT SHE OWED. AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN THE TOPIC ON, THERE'S A LOT OF EMAILS THAT WERE ON THAT DAY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHICH ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHICH ONES I AM IN. I'M NOT SURE ALL MEMOS RELATED TO THAT ENTIRE SITUATION WERE ALL VOTED ON BY THE DIETS [03:30:01] OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. AND THIS IS NOT A MEMO. THIS WAS AN EMAIL WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A LEGAL MEMO OR A LEGAL MEMO JUST A SECOND AGO. LIKE FIRST ONE WAS A LEGAL MEMO, WHICH HAS BEEN ALL RELEASED. NOPE. THIS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED. THE FIRST ONE IS A LEGAL MEMO THAT I'M ASKING TO BE RELEASED THAT DEALS WITH LARRY GONZALEZ, THE SECOND ONE THIRD, ONE OR EMAILS THAT HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEYS ON THERE, THAT IT WAS BETWEEN A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND A MEMBER OF STAFF WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS. GOTCHA. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WAS NO RULING FROM THE AG. THAT'S MY INFORMATION. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO CLARIFY. FIJI DOESN'T ISSUE RULINGS. ANYWAY, FINAL ISSUE, OPINIONS, FINAL OPINION. I HAVE ONE AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, WAIVE THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON THE DEMAND LETTER FROM HART, HAGAR AND PETERSON LAW FIRM DATED, UM, WAS IT MAY 3RD AND RECEIVED BY COUNSEL ON MAY 5TH. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THINGS IN THE REALM OF TRANSPARENCY, LET'S DO IT. WHAT WAS THE DATE ON THAT? MAY 3RD? YOU SAID THE LETTER IS DATED MAY 3RD. WHERE IS IT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT THIS. YEAH. THE LETTER IS DATED MAY 3RD. THE LETTERS DATED MAY 3RD AND WE RECEIVED IT TO MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, SUTTON, CUSTOMER MCKINSEY. I PERSONALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS GETTING RELEASED. IT INCLUDES DISCUSSIONS THAT HAPPEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT HAVE MADE IT OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WOULD BE ILLEGAL BY LAW. SO ANTICIPATE A WHOLE, WHOLE HOST OF THINGS COMING TO FIND OUT HOW INFORMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION CONTINUES TO MAKE IT OUT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. LET'S, IT'S CALLED A VOTE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. I DON'T SOME MEMBER SUTTON. I HAVE SOME MEMBER KINSEY MAYOR SNYDER. I ALSO REMEMBER VILLA REAL SALVO NELSON MEMBER HOLLAND. I SHOULD PASS THIS SEVEN ZERO. NEXT. WE HAVE ITEM 14 TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5 5 1 DASH ZERO SEVEN. ONE RELATING TO BROOKLYN'S PARTNERS LIMITED VERSUS CITY OF HUDDLE. CAUSE NUMBER TWO, TWO DASH 0 5 0 0 DASH C 4 2 5 PENDING IN THE 425TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. UH, QUICK VERIFICATION. DO WE NEED TO DO 10 TO FIRST, UH, THE GARAGE? [10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 2022-042 accepting the infrastructure improvements for the Subdivision known as Brooklands Section 5 in the City of Hutto, Williamson County, Texas, Repealing any prior inconsistent resolutions; providing a severability clause and providing an effective date. (Legal)] UH, SO NO OBJECTIONS WILL RECALL. ITEM TEND TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2, 2 DASH 0 42. ACCEPTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS BROOKLYN, SECTION FIVE IN THE CITY OF HUDDLE, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS REPEALING ANY PRIOR INCONSISTENT RESOLUTIONS PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THERE'S SOMETHING FOR THAT ONE. YEAH. SO IF I REMEMBER, RIGHT, SO, UM, HIS DADDY ON THE PHONE, IF NOT. OKAY. SO CHRISTIAN, DO YOU RECALL, SO THIS RESOLUTION NUMBER 22 0 2 2 DASH 0 4 3. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE SAW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT. AND SO THAT ONE HAS THE WORDING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT, CORRECT. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2 0 2 2 DASH OH FOUR TWO, UM, AS PRESENTED IN THIS ITEM SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UNLESS YOU BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON APPROVING TEND TO AS PRESENTED ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, JUST TO LET THE PEOPLE ON THE BROOKLYN'S KNOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK, TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES IN THE BROOKLYN'S. YUP. ALRIGHT, PLEASE. CALL THE [03:35:01] VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, MAYOR PRO-TENANT THORTON HOUSE MEMBER, GORDON, MAYOR SNYDER. NOW SOME MEMBER VILLA RURAL SABA COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, DANG, I DID IT AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. [14.2. Consideration and possible action related to legal advice received pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.071 relating to Brooklands Partners Ltd. v. City of Hutto, Cause No. 22-0500-C425 pending in the 425th Judicial District Court in Williamson County, Texas.] NOW WE DON'T NEED TO DO 14 TO RIGHT. DIDN'T WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND ACTION. YES. THERE WAS A SECOND ACTION RELATED TO THE OKAY. THEN 14 TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION. RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5, 5 1 DASH ZERO SEVEN. ONE RELATING TO BROOKLYN PARTNERS LIMITED VERSUS CITY OF HADOW CAUSE NUMBER 22 DASH 0 5 0 0 DASH. PENDING IN THE 425TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. SO IN THIS ONE, CHRISTIAN, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THIS IS ENTERING INTO THAT A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH BROOKLYN'S THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. YES, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE IT SECOND. WELL, I SAID BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON, SECOND BY A MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON, AND AS MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED FOR THE PUBLIC. SO WHAT THIS IS IS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PHASE FIVE TO PROCEED THE BROOKLYN'S, UH, AND ACCEPT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO WORK WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPER AND THE CONTRACTOR TO GET SECTIONS ONE AND TWO FIXED. SO WE'RE NOT GIVING UP ON THAT. WE'RE STILL PURSUING THAT. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT METHOD OF, OF GETTING THERE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, CARRIE, NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. ALSO MEMBER VILLA, RURAL SALVO. I TELL SOME AT MCKENZIE, I MAY HAVE PUT TIM THORTON, TELL SOME MEMBER BORDEN. I TELL SOME MEMBER SUTTON I MAYOR SNYDER, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. I MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. [14.3. Consideration and possible action related to legal advice received pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.071 and deliberations regarding economic development pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.087 to deliberate the offer of a financial or other incentive to business prospects; including deliberations regarding the purchase, sale, exchange or value of real property pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.072.] NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 14, THREE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 7 1 AND DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 8 7 TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO BUSINESS PROSPECTS, INCLUDING DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE SALE EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 5 5 1 DASH 0 7 2. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING THERE. RIGHT. AND THEN 14 FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED. WE DIDN'T GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THAT ONE. ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ADJOURN. 1156. I DID IT. ANGELA. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.