8.1. Consideration and possible action on approving the 5/5/22 and 5/19/22 City Council meeting minutes

[9.1. Consideration of a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance 2022-029 approving a Specific Use Permit request for the property known as 201 FM 1660 N., to allow a medical office (chiropractor) and associated parking. (First Reading) (Ashley Lumpkin) (Part 1 of 2)]

>> MOTION PASSES SIX ÃZERO. OKAY I'VE DONE THIS RIGHT ITEM 91 CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 Ã029 APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 201 FM 1660 N. TO ALLOW A MEDICAL OFFICE CHIROPRACTOR AND ASSOCIATED PARKING, FIRST

READING. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MEDICAL USE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. MOST OF YOU KNOW THIS IS THE EXISTING TREND FOR THIS LOCATION IS UP FOR SALE AND SO THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO HAVE A LIVE WORK TABLE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA WE HAD TO DO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MEDICAL USE. WITH THAT IT IS ZONED TRANSITION OT 14 AND IS ALREADY APPLIED A LOT THEIR PARKING PRETTINESS THE SITE AND BLUE, SURROUNDED BY OT 5H WHICH IS VACANT IS MORE THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TRANSITIONAL, THE OT 14 IS A TRANSITIONAL THAT SURROUNDS A

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SITE ON THE REST OF THE SIDES. YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THE SITE IS NORTH OF IT IS THE BEAUTIFUL GREEN HOME OFFICE 1660 AND SOUTH OF IT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMODEL THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME TO ALLOW FOR THE CHIROPRACTORS OFFICE AND AN EXTERIOR CHANGES ADDITIONS MODIFICATIONS HAVE TO GO TO -- THIS REALLY JUST FOR THE USE.

AND SITE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING PERMITS ALSO BE REQUIRED IF ANY MODIFICATIONS OCCUR BUT BUILDING PERMITS FOR SURE BECAUSE INTERIOR REMODEL. STAFF SINCE EVERYONE NOTICES AND WE GOT THREE APPROVAL AND JUST RECENTLY WE GOT ONE IN OPPOSITION THAT DID NOT SAY WHY.

WITH THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND

APPROVING THIS UNANIMOUSLY. >> ALL RIGHT, IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNSEL BEFORE WE START DISCUSSION WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WHERE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HEARING NO OBJECTIONS WILL START THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:16 PM. IF THERE'S ANYONE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING OR HEARING NO ONE, WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.

7:16 PM. WE OPENED THE ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> I HAVE ONE. HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE OVERALL PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN, SINCE WE ARE CREATING THAT

RIGHT NOW. >> I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY WORKING REALLY WELL BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ADDING SOME LIVE WORK UNITS ARE READY A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE SHIFT THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THIS IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE MORE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN.

I THINK THIS FITS PERFECT IF THIS WORKS, IT WORKS FOR US

TOO. >> YOU SAID FOR MEDICAL USE REQUIRES SIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA? IDEA WHY WE REQUIRE THAT FOR

MEDICAL USE? >> ADENOIDECTOMY BECAUSE MANY IT CAN INTENSE AND YOU CAN SEE THEM PARKING REGULATIONS IS TYPICALLY YOU WILL PARK THOSE A LITTLE HIGHER.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY GUESS BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WHY WE REQUIRED IT.T IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONUNDRUM TO ME BECAUSE ALSO HAVE A E A DENTAL OFFICE COME UP AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ADDING A PARKING THAT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ENOUGH ON N STREET PARKING.

RESTAURANTS MAKE NOTES IN THE CODE WILL GET TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE DOWNTOWN APPROVED AND WE GOING TO THAT AMENDMENT.

I THINK THERE WILL BE THINGS ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO CONVERT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS WHERE WE ARE READY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE WILL START LOOKING UP AT IT WILL BE FULL P&Z, HPC, CITY COUNCIL

DISCUSSION. >> THE REASON I ASKED, I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SUP, WE TALK ABOUT ENERGIZING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE WERE TALKING THE RODEO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW THERE IS NOT DOWNTOWN, IF YOU WANT TO BRING A FAMILY THERE LIKE TWO THINGS YOU CAN DO.

EITHER THE TEXAN CAFC) OR EAT A HALL OF FAME.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING GOING ON.

WE HAVE, AND THEY ARE ALL GREAT BUSINESSES.

I START TO WONDER IF WE WANT TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY TO MAKE DOWNTOWN BETTER, OUR DENTIST OFFICES, CHIROPRACTORS, I FORGOT WHAT IT IS MEDICAL, OCCUPATIONAL, ALL THESE TYPE BUSINESSES DON'T COME ACROSS WITH WHAT YOU SEE THE OTHER DOWNTOWN DRIVING. WHAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TO BE PUT LIGHTS UP AND TRY TO TRACK PEOPLE THERE? AND I LOOK AT THIS AND THIS IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU MAY MISS THAT MAYBE A RESTAURANT OR SOME OTHER BUSINESS CAN COME IN DETAIL ORIENTED THAT WOULD BRING OTHER THINGS TO DO WHILE WE ARE DOWN THERE VERSUS A CHIROPRACTOR AND THEN ONE MORE USE THAT POTENTIALLY, WILL NEVER BE RETAIL AGAIN WE WILL KEEP TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWN THERE AND SPEND MONEY. THAT'S ABOUT THE SUP THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF IF YOU PUT TOO MANY MEDICAL USES OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR ATTORNEYS OR INSURANCE SALESMAN OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE REALLY NOT HELPING THE DOWNTOWN.

>> I THINK THERE'S ALL GREAT POINTS.

IF YOU LIKE, I KNOW YOU ATTENDED SOME OF THE SESSIONS YESTERDAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO THE SIMPLE CITY DESIGN BECAUSE IF WE GET OFFICIAL POTENTIALLY DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS, JUST MAYBE A RATIO OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT

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SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS NOT JUST SUBDIVISIONS ACTUALLY CREATING NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK DOWNTOWN WILL BE RIGHT

FOR THAT TOO. >> THEY'LL BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME WAS THE ENDODONTIST THAT WAS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1660, BUT NOW WE GETTING CLOSER TO EAST STREET AND I'M GOING ANYWAY.

>> TO THAT POINT, I THINK ANYTHING PROFESSIONAL, THERE'S A LIMIT TO WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU MIGHT WANT BECAUSE IT WILL ALL CLOSED DOORS AND LIKE THAT AT 5:00 AND IT WILL BE A GHOST TOWN IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM.

BUT EVEN SOME RETAIL, THEY TO SIMILAR STUFF AND THEY WAKE UP EARLY, WE HAVE EMPTY BUSINESSES BUT WE DON'T HAVE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE CLOSE, IT WILL BE NICE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET MORE OPEN WITHOUT RESTRICTING PEOPLE FROM DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

>> THE APPLICANT IS HERE. >> MAYOR, I THINK YOU MAKE VERY VALID POINTS AND BECAUSE I DO FREQUENT DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN AREAS AND THEY HAVE RESTAURANTS AND THAT IS WHAT DRAWS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN. ARE YOU FAMILIAR THAT THE EXACT PROPERTY THAT I WANT TO PURCHASE HAD A CAFC) THERE PRIO

TO IT BEING RETAIL? >> NO MAN.

>> AND IT FAILED. ALSO, THE CO-OP WILL HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU PROBABLY DO WANT TO HAVE A THRESHOLD ON HOW MANY CAN BE NONDRIVING RESTAURANTS LIKE THE NIGHTLIFE. HOPEFULLY, I CAN GET IN AND GET YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE YOU PUT THAT ON IT.

AND HOPEFULLY, CO-OP WITH THE RESTAURANTS WILL GET THE DOWNTOWN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

ALSO, HIGH-VOLUME SO IT WOULD BE IN THE AREAS YOU'RE LOOKING

TO GROW. >> I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT COMMENTS AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE CAFC) WAS THERE.

I KNOW THE POPULATION OF THE CITY IS PROBABLY TRIPLED IN THE PAST, FIVE OR SIX YEARS IT SEEMS LIKE, AND I DON'T DISLIKE A CHIROPRACTIC BUSINESS AT ALL. ACTUALLY, SOMETIMES THERE ARE SUP OF HAD TO BE INVOLVED IN WHERE PEOPLE TELL ME WE LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING BUT MAYBE IS IT THE RIGHT SPOT? WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH THAT WHEN THERE IS A SUP DECISION IN MY MIND. IT'S NOT JUST HERE, WHETHER IT BE DRIVE-THROUGH OR WE HAD AN APPLIANCE RETAILER, ALL OF THESE THINGS AND IT REALLY MAKES FOR A GOOD DISCUSSION AND ALSO KIND OF A, WHERE IS EVERYBODY AT AND WHAT DO WE ENVISION AND HOW DO WE NOT RESTRICT A PROPERTY OWNER FOR DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IF A PERSON WANTS TO OPEN UP A NIGHTCLUB, WE WOULD DISCUSS THAT TOO BEFORE WE APPROVE IT.

>> LIKE I SAID, YOUR CONCERNS ARE VERY VALID AND JUST OPEN THE CO-OP IS WHERE MOST OF THE EATERIES WOULD BE AND THEN DOWN TALK AND HAVE THAT CHARMER YOU SAID YOU CAN EVEN SEE RETAIL CLOSE FIVE OR SIX. SO MAYBE THAT GIVES THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE FOOT TRAFFIC ALREADY BEING A COP AND DAYTIME

EVENTS. >> AND THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT WHEN I ATTENDED KEYNESIAN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE I HAD KIND OF THE SAME CONCERN.

HOW MANY MEDICAL THINGS WE WANT TO SQUISH INTO DOWNTOWN?AND YET, THIS IS THE FAR EAST SIDE WHERE WE ARE AT A SEEMS TO BE ON THE EDGE, IT MADE IT MORE PALATABLE FOR ME PLUS, I REALLY KIND OF ESPECIALLY AFTER TURNING THE RODEO AND DISCUSSIONS WE HAD A REALLY ENVISION SEEING THE AREAS BETWEEN THE CO-OP AND THE TRADITIONAL OLD TOWN WITH THOSE RESTAURANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THERE'S A LOT OF AVAILABLE SPACE WHERE WE CAN PUT THOSE IN THERE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN DRIVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC DURING THE DAY WITH YOUR CLIENTS WHERE THEY WERE, AND MAYBE THEY WILL GO EAT FOR LUNCH INSTEAD OF SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK HAVING A GOOD MIX OF DAYTIME DRIVERS AND GETTING MORE OF THE KIND OF NIGHTTIME THING A MIX IN THERE SO NOT A TOTAL GHOST TOWN AT 8:00 AT NIGHT.

DRIVING SOME MIXED AREA WILL BE GOOD.

FOR ME AT THIS ESPECIALLY FOR THE FAR EASTERN EDGE OF KIND OF

THIS DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. >> HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

I KNOW YOU SAID HIGH-VOLUME. ISSUES WITH PARKING AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONT AREA, CAN YOU GO BACK A FEW SLIDES? BECAUSE IT HAD ITS OWN PARKING, THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY

PARKING, RIGHT? >> YOU CAN SEE I THINK THERE

ARE FOUR OR FIVE SPACES. >> YES.

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THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE YOUR FLOW.

>> BECAUSE I AM HIGH-VOLUME IT IS USUALLY PRETTY EFFICIENT, OFFICE VISIT TIME I WAS ON TAYLOR STREET YOU MENTIONED IT'S ANOTHER PARKING LOT THAT WILL BE THERE, JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS DOWN FOR THAT THAT'S WHERE I GREW MY BUSINESS, I WAS THERE ALMOST 5 YEARS. WE ONLY HAD MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE SPOTS AND THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR TENANTS AND WE MADE IT WORK. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS

JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE IT WORK. >> AND I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ASHLEY BACK TO THE MAP.

THE TEAL COLOR. IS THAT ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL? AND THEN THE BLUISH COLOR, THAT IS THE LIVE/WORK OPTIONS?

>> YOU CAN WORK IN MOST OF DOWNTOWN WILL ALLOW RESIDENTS AND ACCESSORY AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT THE TEAL WILL BE MORE OF THE HEAVIER COMMERCIAL BUT NOT A REALLY HEAVY COMMERCIAL AREA. MORE OF A TRANSITIONAL ZONE WE HAVE OFFICE BUILDINGS, MEDICAL OFFICE, A LITTLE RETAIL SPACE COMING IN ABOUT TWO AND HALF BLOCKS NORTH AND REALLY LIGHT BLUE ON THE FAR RIGHT CORNER, THAT IS JUST RESIDENTIAL.

>> THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE SOMETHING.

I DO REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS THE COFFEE SHOP AND SALLY VELASQUEZ OWNED THE BUILDING AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS THE HUTTO BIBLE CHURCH OFFICE BUILDING. --

>>.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WILL BE A RESIDENCE AS WELL.

>> I WANT CHILDREN, I'M SINGLE, BUSINESS OWNER AND I REALLY, JUST PUT MY FATHER INTO A FACILITY.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO, IS GO BACK TO CHANGING TWO HVAC FILTER UNITS LIGHT BILLS AND IS TOO MUCH TAKE CARE MY FATHER AND WANTING TO HAVE CHILDREN. I NEED TO BUY MY OWN PROPERTY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO KEEP FRONTING, SPECIAL AND PARKING WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT OVERNIGHT, GOT ME OUT OF ONE FACILITY AND I AM NOW HOUSE GRACEFULLY INSIDE OF A HAIR SALON BECAUSE SHE IS AMAZING PARKING.

AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS A TENANT WANTED TO RESERVE PARKING JUST FOR HIM. IT DIDN'T WORK AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO HAVING TO DO TWO DIFFERENT FACILITIES.

THIS CAME UP AND IT JUST SEEMED MEANT TO BE.F IT DOES GO THROUGH, IF IT IS APPROVED IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS A PERFECT SOLUTION TO ONLY HAVING TO MAINTAIN ONE EXTERIOR, ONE YARD, ONE HVAC. AND I CAN FINALLY START MY

FAMILY. >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL RESIDENCE. I MEAN, HONESTLY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE WHAT WAS THE -- HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU AND THAT WAS A BUSINESS. AT FIRST WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS, I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE IT THINK ABOUT HOW TO REGROW DOWNTOWN? BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN I LOOK AT THE LOCATION AND THE FACT THAT YOU ALSO WANT IT TO BE A RESIDENCE, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT HOME WAS BUILT FOR. FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE AND GROW THERE. SO, YOU CAN SEE THE VISION NOW.

MAJORITY IS RESIDENTIAL. >> I CAN SEE THE VISION.

>> AND THE SITE IS WHERE THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE.

I WANTED TO FURTHER -- THANK YOU.

I DID WANT TO MENTION THE PARKING.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. MY CONCERN WAS MORE NOT ME AND MY PATIENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN PARKING BUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND BECAUSE DURING LUNCHTIME IT GETS REALLY FULL.

I AM ASSUMING I'M ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THE FEW PARKING SPOTS I HAVE WITH SIGNS THAT IT IS FOR MY PROPERTY.

IS THAT OKAY TO DO? I DON'T MIND SHARING AFTER HOURS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. I JUST DON'T WANT MY PATIENTS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES I HAVE DIFFICULTY WALKING DUE TO PAIN, TO NOT HAVE A SPOT BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DOWNTOWN

WITH THE RESTAURANTS. >> I GUESS I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IS THE BUILDING ADA APPROVED? DOES IT FALL INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE RULES? BECAUSE SOME OF YOUR PATIENTS WILL BE IN PAIN AND NEED RAMP

ACCESS. >> THERE IS A RAMP THERE, YES.

AND I'M NOT FOR SURE IF THERE'S A HANNAH ON THE VERY LAST ONE, BUT THAT WE WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO DESIGNATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO ACCESS THE RAMP ON THAT SPACE.

IT HAS TO BE. I AM A CHIROPRACTOR.

>> ENTRY WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THE PE ORDER TO DO THE

IMPROVEMENTS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS SOMETHING I'VE HAD

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DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FOR THE DOWNTOWN PROPERTIES, DESIGNATED PARKING BECAUSE DURING THESE HOURS, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE STUDIO AND UNDER WHAT KIND OF HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PHARMACY BUT THIS IS SOMETHING IN DISCUSSION AND NO WITH YOUR PROPERTY, HAVING LIKE YOUR PARKING SPACES DURING YOUR HOURS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO SPILL OVER IF YOU DON'T HAVE SIGNS.

>> RIGHT TO REQUEST IF THERE IS AN EVENT OR WEDDING AND YOUR CUSTOMERS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PARK OR YOUR CLIENTS OR PATIENTS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PARK.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IT IS SOMETHING BEING EXPLORED.

I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEIR BIG EVENTS DOWNTOWN, HOW DO WE ALLOW THE BUSINESSES TO STILL HAVE THEIR PARKING?

>> DEFINITELY CONCERN FOR ME. >> IS A CRAWFISH FESTIVAL, THERE'S OLD-TIME DAYS AND THAT THE ONLY TWO OR THREE MAJOR EVENTS. ALSO, ON THE HUTTO.GOV UNDERNEATH YOUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS, SPECIFIC TO ALL OT FOUR STONES AND LOCATION ON THE STREET AND THE GORGES GENERAL SHALL BE LOCATED ON ALLEYS AT THE REAR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THIS WAS A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. THE BUILDING IS ALSO GREAT FOR ME BECAUSE THAT IS AN ALLEY THAT I CAN USE TO BE ABLE TO STILL ACCESS MY PROPERTY ON THE DAYS THAT Y'ALL HAVE YOUR EVENTS. AND YOUR EVENT IS USUALLY SATURDAYS. I'M LOOKING TO PLAY WITH MY KIDS ON SATURDAYS AND NOT BE OPEN SO IT SHOULD WORK OUT!

>> A GREAT BACKYARD BY THE WAY.

>> IT DOES, AMAZING! >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? A MOTION WILL BE IN ORDER.

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE 9.1. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. APPROVING 9.1 IS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE ROAD.

>> MOTION PASSES FIVE ÃONE. >> THANK YOU.

[9.2. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2022-028 establishing an Outside Agency Funding Advisory Committee; and providing for related matters. (Second Reading) (City Council)]

AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND. >> THAT BRING THIS ITEM 9.2.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ORDINANCE ZERO Ã2022 Ã 028 ESTABLISHING AN OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND PROVIDING FOR ATED MATTERS.

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION, DO WE HAVE A

SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MAYOR HAVE A DISCUSSION ON 9.1, WHERE THE SECOND MEETING

ON 9.1? >> YES.

>> I LIKE TO RECALL ITEM 9.1. > NO OBJECTION TO RECALL ITEM 9.1. IS THAT A MOTION TO DISPENSE

THE SECOND READING? >> YES SIR.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. DISPENSING OF THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 Ã029.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES FIVE ÃONE. RESIST ITEM 10.1, CONSIDERATION

[10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2022-038 approving an Advance Funding Agreement (AFA) between the City of Hutto and the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) for the FM 1660 Intersections Improvement project, and authorizing the Interim City Manager to execute the AFA. (Wade Benton)]

AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2022-038 APPROVING AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FOR THE FM 1660 INTERSECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER EXIT GATE BE AFA.

HOW'S IT GOING? >> GOOD EVENING.

THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A FOLLOW-UP TO LAST UPDATE ON 1660. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT

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GOES ALONG WITH THE FUNDING AGREEMENT.

TXDOT IS MOVING TOWARDS ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE PROCESS, SO YOU HAVE THE DRAFT AGREEMENT IN YOUR PACKET, ONCE COUNSEL APPROVES THE RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZED SIGNATURE TO EXECUTE THAT THEN WE SHOULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE DOCUMENT FROM TXDOT FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE.

IT WILL NOTE THAT THIS AGREEMENT, I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU BROUGHT A DRAFT AGREEMENT TO YOU ON THIS ONE HAD ALL THREE PROJECTS IN THE AGREEMENT.

THIS IS JUST TWO OF THE THREE AND THE REASON THEY SPLIT THOSE UP IS IF YOU REMEMBER, THE SOUTH PROJECT INCLUDES FEDERAL MONEY. THE FRA WITH THE GRANT AND SO, THE TXDOT SUGGESTED THAT FOR EFFICIENCY IN ALL SIDES THAT WE BREAK UP INTO TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS.

WE WILL HAVE TWO SEPARATE FUNDING AGREEMENTS.

THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. IT INCLUDES THE LUNAR LOOP INTERSECTION AS WELL AS NORTHSIDE OF 1660 AND 79.

ONCE WE GET THE UPDATED DRAFT ON THAT SECOND ONE WE WILL BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU AS WELL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? >> JUST TO CLARIFY, 6060 S.

AND 79 -- >> CORRECT.

>> PROJECTS DESIGN, IS CURRENTLY BEING PERMITTED TO TXDOT. DO WE KNOW WHEN BALLPARK THIS WOULD BE BID AND THE PROJECT WILL BE LED?

>> NORTH PROJECT, THE TURNLEY MAYOR AT 79 ON THE NORTH SIDE, LOOKING AT AUGUST TIMEFRAME TO BID.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME FINAL PERMITTING THERE AND WE'VE GOT I THINK THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SECURITY IN TERMS OF ACCESS THAT ONE PARCEL. THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE LATE THIS YEAR AS THE, WHAT IS LOOKING LIKE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS.

BUT ON BOTH OF THEM, ON THE NORTH SIDE TXDOT HAS A SON FINAL SET OF PLANS, THEY GOT 100 PERCENT SO WE ARE WAITING ON FINAL COMMENTS TO CLEAR THERE.

>> THANKS. >> A COUPLE OF PEOPLE LOOKING

FORWARD TO THE CONSTRUCTION. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER.

>> HIGH MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-2022-038 AS

PRESENTED.>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2022-055 authorizing the Interim City Manager to submit a grant application to the US Dept of Justice, Office of Community Orienting Policing Services (COPS Office), for the Cops Hiring Program (CHP) and authorizing the Chief of Police to act as the City's authorized grant official. (Chief Jeff Yarbrough)]

>> MOTION PASSES SIX ÃZERO. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10 ÃTWO CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2022-055 AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ORIENTING POLICING SERVICES, COPS OFFICE, FOR THE COPS HIRING PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZING CHIEF OF POLICE TO ACT AS A CITIES AUTHORIZE GRANT OFFICIAL.

EVENING CHIEF. CHRIS GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. [LAUGHTER] I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH A REQUEST FOR GRANT RESOLUTION AND I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THAT. BEFORE I DO, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE AND SAY ABOUT HUTTO, WE ARE KNOWN AS ONE OF THE FASTEST COMMUNITIES AND WITH THE GROWTH WE KNOW COMES INCREASE IN NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE GREAT CITY.

AND THOSE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS ALSO TRANSFER OVER TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS THERE. EXPECT US TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES AND VISITORS. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION FOR THIS COPS GRANT. THIS IS A GRANT FOR THIS YEAR THAT IS COMING OUT THAT'S OUT OF THE COPS HIRING PROGRAM THAT COMES OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

AND IT IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM.

IN FACT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING ONLY AWARDING ABOUT 185 GRANTS

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THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. AND THERE IS HUNDRED $56 MILLION IN SEVERAL THINGS THERE LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY WERE THERE LOOKING FOR PRICES PERSISTENT POVERTY, LOOKING FOR PLACES WHERE CRIMES ARE REALLY HIGH THEY HAVE GUN VIOLENCE, LOOKING FOR PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE ACTUAL VIOLENCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON, THE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING NEED. AND SO THE FUNDING IS DESIGNED TO INCREASE THE ABILITY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO HIRE COMMUNITY POLICING IN A CAPACITY SO THAT YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS, ALSO DESIGNED SO THAT WE CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS AT A LEVEL TO WHERE AGENCIES ARE CURRENTLY STRUGGLING WITH BUILDING THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY, GIVES US THAT PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. IN THIS PROGRAM, IT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THREE YEARS OF AN OFFICERS BASIC, FROM THE ENTRY-LEVEL SALARY INCLUDING THEIR BENEFITS AND THEY GIVE YOU A FIVE YEAR, 60 MONTH WINDOW, FIVE YEARS OR 60 MONTH WINDOW TO DO THE HIRING, GET THE PROGRAM STARTED SO SOMETIMES IT MAY TAKE A YEAR TO HIRE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU GET. AND THERE'S A MINIMUM OF 25 PERCENT MATCH THAT THEY REQUIRE AND THAT MATCH REQUEST INCREASES AS EACH YEAR PASSES AND THEY DO REQUIRE THAT EACH AGENCY MAINTAINS THAT GRANT FUND POSITION FOR 12 MONTHS FOLLOWING THE THREE YEARS OF THE FUNDING FOR THE POSITION.

THIS CHART SHOWS THE COSTS, THE ANNUAL COST FOR ENTRY-LEVEL SALARY POSITION CURRENTLY IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE BENEFITS, THAT'S ABOUT $79,606. THE FIRST YEAR THE GRANT COVERS 75 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY TO HAVE A MATCH OF ABOUT $19,101 PER OFFICER.

AND IT GOES DOWN EVERY YEAR. , AND OUR CONTRIBUTION HAS O INCREASE TO COUNTERACT THAT. WE HAVE A TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE O PAY PER OFFICER, EACH YEAR ABOUT $112,000 PER OFFICER. AND AGAIN, THE GRANT ENDS AFTER THREE YEARS OF BEING THE PROGRAM.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDING AN ADDITIONAL FOUR OFFICES, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO THE GRANT.

AN ADDITIONAL FOUR OFFICES AND THIS GRAPH YOU'RE ACTUALLY LAYS OUT HOW MUCH WE WOULD BE PAYING AT THE FOREFRONT AND WHAT THE TOTAL COST THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE THREE YEARS WOULD BE FOR THE CITY. AND YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT WILL COVER THAT'S A $675,000 OVER THREE YEARS FOR FOUR OFFICES AND YOU SEE THE CITIES MATCH FOR THAT.

IT IS LIMITED TO $125,000 OVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD PER OFFICER. AND IF YOU NOTICE, THE NUMBER WE HAVE FOR THE OFFICERS WERE 126,000.

WE WOULD INCUR THE ADDITIONAL $1500 THAT EXCEEDS 125,000 MAXIMUM EACH YEAR. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES, EQUIPPING, TRAINING OR OVERTIME COSTS.

NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE COVERED.

THEY GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR UP TO 20 PERCENT OF YOUR ACTUAL SWORN FORCE, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR FOUR.

NINE WOULD BE THE 20 PERCENT WE'VE GOT 45 OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE LOOKING TO ASK FOR FOUR AND ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS IS HISTORICALLY, BY MY EXPANSE WHEN YOU APPLY YOU ASK FOR TOO MUCH, THEY MAY TOTALLY CUT YOU OUT AND YOU NOT GET ANYTHING. WE ARE LOOKING TO ASK FOR FOUR AND HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BE AWARDED THAT.

THOSE FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE USED TO REORIENT THE MISSION AND ACTIVITIES OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WE SERVE HERE.

THAT OPERATE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY POLICING. WE CURRENTLY DO THOSE THINGS THERE ARE PROACTIVE POLICING, WE DO THEM THROUGH TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, THROUGH CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, COMMUNITY POLICING INITIATIVES. SOME CHALLENGES WE FACE MANY ARE WHERE WE'VE HAD STAFFING ISSUES IN THE PAST AND SOME MAY WONDER, AM I TALKING TOO LOUD? I'M HEARING THIS -- PEOPLE MIGHT BE WONDERING IF YOU HAVE STAFFING ISSUES WE CANNOT EVEN FILL THE POSITIONS WELL JUST FOUR MORE? WE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. WHEN I STARTED WE HAD LIKE 10 OPENINGS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR THAT WILL BE STARTING ON JUNE 13, SEVEN THAT ARE IN THE APPLICATION POOL THAT WOULD FILL WOULD BE ABLE TO EXTRACT THE RELATIVE QUALITY APPLICANTS OUT OF THAT AND WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO TOTALLY FILL OUR

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VACANCIES AND IF WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET THE POSITIONS, HAVE ALL THE POSITIONS FILLED WITHIN ONE CALENDAR YEAR.

THAT IS OUR ANTICIPATION. AND SO, BASED ON THE NEED AND CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE CITY THE FEDERAL POLICE DEPARTMENT SEEKING A RESOLUTION THAT WILL AUTHORIZE US TO SUBMIT THIS GRANT TO THE COPS HIRING PROGRAM.

TO FUND FOUR POSITIONS. AT THIS TIME, I WILL DETAIN ANY

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> HAVE A COUPLE.

WHAT YOU CHANCE THAT YOU THINK WILL OBLIGATE THE PROGRAM TO

QUALIFY? >> THEY TAKE IN SEVERAL FACTORS. ONE OF THE FACTORS, THEY GO BY A 33 PERCENT MATRIX. THEY SAY 33 PERCENT IS ON THE AMOUNT OF CRIME YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY.

33 PERCENT AS MEASURED ON THE EMPHASIS PUTTING A COMMUNITY POLICING AND ANOTHER 33 PERCENT THAT IS BASED UPON THE FUNDING NEED. GIVE SOME PLACES THAT THEY MAY BE STRUGGLING BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, 33 PERCENT MAY WAY MORE THAN IN SOME OTHER AREAS.

IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY APPLY BUT THE COMPETITION IS GOING TO BE STIFF.

WERE ABLE TO PULL SOME OF THE PREVIOUS AGENCIES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT WERE ACTUALLY AWARDED THE GRANT, AND YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST PLACES LIKE ARLINGTON, HOUSTON, CHICAGO, PLACES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO PULL SOME DATA IN THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE AWARDED BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU APPLY, THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.

>> BASED ON GROWTH RATE, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GRANT WHICH I WAS LOOKING TO COME TO COUNSEL TO ASK TO ADD TO THE FORCE BASED ON THE POPULATION.

>> THERE IS A STAND, HISTORICALLY THERE IS A STANDARD ABOUT THINGS TO SAY PER 1000 OFFICERS.

NOW YOU'VE GOT TO THE DOJ AND FBI PUSHED OUT THAT IS TYPICALLY ABOUT ONE OFFICER PER 500.

TWO OFFICES PER 1000 IS WHAT HAS BECOME THE NATIONAL STANDARD IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT THE DYNAMICS THAT ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IF YOU HAVE HIGHER CRIME SOME AREAS WHERE THERE'S DEAFLY JUSTIFIED TO HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE IS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. YOU MAY NOT NEED THAT MANY SO DEPENDS ON THE CALL VOLUME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HAVING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS NOT OUR CALL VOLUME IS STEADILY INCREASED, I WAS OF THE DATA IN 2007 AND SOME IS USED TO THE GRAPH AND NUMBERS GO UP IN FACT LAST YEAR WE WERE AT WOULD SAY APPROXIMATELY 33,000 EVENTS AND THAT WAS ABOUT 88, BUT 88 CALLS A DAY I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE ARE ABOUT 96 CALLS, EVENTS PER DAY. WE ARE SEEING THE INCREASE.

AND I'M SORRY -- AND SO, COMMUNITY AND RESPONSES DICTATE THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE. CURRENTLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO SEE IS, WE ARE STRUGGLING IN AREAS WHERE WITH PATROL, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE ENOUGH PATROL OFFICERS.

AND WE'VE HAD WITH THE SHORTAGE, WITH HAD TO PULL OFFICES OUT OF INVESTIGATIONS TO PUT INTO PATROL.

WE HAD TO PULL OFFICES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY LIAISON OFFICE.

WE HAD TO PULL OFFICES OUT OF DIFFERENT AREAS SO THEY CAN FILL THE GAPS. AND IF WE HAVE THAT AND FILLING OUT THE PATROL POSITIONS, OUR INVESTIGATIONS WHERE WE CAN HAVE A GENERAL DETECTIVE, WE CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL JUVENILE DETECTIVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE AND ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

ALSO AGAIN, WE HAVE HRT TEAM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE STAFFING, GETTING UP TO BE AS ROBUST AND EFFECTIVE AS IT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT ADDITIONAL STAFF WOULD DEFINITELY ALLOW A SPIRIT AND ANOTHER THING WE'VE SEEN, COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON HAS MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A DEDICATED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.

AND SO, THOSE ARE NEEDS THAT COME WITH A GROWING COMMUNITY THAT AT SOME POINT, WE AS A COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENT AND CITY WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS SO THAT WE CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY

WITH FIDELITY. >> I DO HAVE SOMETHING AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS GREAT THAT THE CITY IS APPLYING FOR THIS PROGRAM, ANY KIND OF HELP FINANCIALLY IS GREAT. OF COURSE, WE NEED THOSE OFFICERS AND TO FUND THEM AND OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR PORTION WE PARTICIPATE IN. I SPOKE WITH THE ASSISTANT MANAGER AND APPLYING TO THESE GRANTS IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE, ESPECIALLY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

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AT THE STATE LEVEL MAY BE LESS SO.

BUT I ASKED HIM IF THE CITY HAD A GRANT WRITER OR MAYBE EVEN SOME ONE OF THE ALSO THAT WE HIRE TO HELP US WITH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY HEFTY.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS IT IS PRETTY HEFTY ESPECIALLY WITH IT BEING SO COMPETITIVE. MY QUESTION IS THAT LIKE, THE DEADLINE FOR THE FIRST, THE FIRST DEADLINE IS A WEEK FROM TODAY ABOUT THIS TIME AND THEN THE SECOND DEADLINE THE FINAL DEADLINE IS TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY ABOUT THIS TIME.

I GUESS HOW PREPARED IS YOUR STAFF, TO SUBMIT THIS AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE. I GUESS, HOW PREPARED ARE THEY TO GET THIS APPLICATION COMPLETED.

I THINK THERE TWO PHASES THE FIRST PHASE IS PROBABLY NOT AS THOROUGH AS THE FINAL BUT I GUESS TO MEET THE FIRST DEADLINE OF NEXT WEEK THEN OF COURSE WORKING DILIGENTLY THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, DONE.

I GUESS, HOW PREPARED IS YOUR STAFF? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ARE SHORTSTAFFED TO TAKE THIS ON.

BECAUSE IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM AND I WANT US TO GET THIS BUT

-- >> AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE APARTMENT WHO IS WELL-VERSED IN GRANT WRITING AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, IT WASN'T TO SAY YOU KNOW PLEASE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AHEAD OF THAT SO THE INITIAL GRANT, INITIAL APPLICATION THROUGH GRANTS .GOV WE RESTARTED OUT AND COMPLETED AND THE COMPLETE APPLICATION THROUGH JUST GRANTS.GOV IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED ON AND SO WE ARE AT A POSITION WHERE IF WE GET THE THUMBS UP WE CAN PUSH A BUTTON. IF WE GET THE THUMBS DOWN, WE DELETE. WE HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE IN THAT AND HAVING A STAFF MEMBER WHO IS WELL-VERSED AND HAS THE ABILITY TO PREPARE THESE GRANTS AND HAS DONE IT BEFORE, AND TO BE GRANT MANAGER IS SOMETHING WE CONSIDER INTERMITTENT

LUXURY. >> THANK YOU BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THAT WE HAD THE RESOURCES FOR THAT.

I KNOW IN GENERAL THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND NOT NECESSARILY PSALM THAT IS FULL TIME BUT MAYBE A CONTRACT WORKER THAT CAN HELP US WITH THESE THINGS THAT IS CONSTANTLY WORKING ON FEDERAL GRANTS AND STATE GRANTS. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION

AND AM EXCITED. >> YOU MENTIONING THE THREE BUCKETS THE 33 PERCENT. WHAT YOU THINK WE ARE COMPETITIVELY TO BE CONSIDERED THE TYPE OF GRANT.

>> IS DIFFICULT TO SAY. SOME OF THE THINGS, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT THEY ALSO FACTOR IN, AND ONE OF THOSE IS COMMUNITY-ORIENTED HIRING.

MEETING ARE YOU HIRING FROM IN THE COMMUNITY, AND ALSO, ARE YOU HIRING PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE YOUR COMMUNITY AND WILLING TO MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO LOOK AT ARE YOU HIRING VETERANS, TO THE TAKE ALL THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND WHICH BUCKET THOSE FALLEN, IS KIND OF UNCERTAIN. IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I FEEL LIKE, WE ARE GUARANTEED NOT TO GET IF WE DON'T APPLY AND WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE DO. WE ARE HOPING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING AND BEING EXTREMELY GREEDY, BUT BEING YOU KNOW GOING IN AND SHOWING OUR EXACT NEED AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, WE ARE FEELING GOOD ABOUT THE EMPHASIS WE ARE PUTTING ON THE ABILITY FOR US TO REPURPOSE OUR INITIATIVES IN A MANNER TO WHERE WE COULD TARGET THE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING WHERE YOU COULD BECOME PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE. AND WE WERE ARTICULATING THAT

IN THE GRANT. >> IS VERY EXCITING HERE THAT WE HAVE COMING ON BOARD AND YOU HAVE SO MANY APPLICANTS CHOOSE FROM, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO INVEST IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN SECURITY AND SAFETY OF ALL RESIDENTS.

I THINK IT'S WORTH A SHOT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD IN THIS, WE REALLY, YOU CAN'T WIN IF YOU DON'T TRY.

OR YOU CAN'T WIN IF YOU DON'T PLAY, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES MA'AM THANK YOU. >> MALA QUESTION I HAD, WAS THE FOUR POSITIONS THAT YOU WOULD FUND THROUGH THIS.

THERS FOR A POSITION AS YOU READY CURRENTLY PLANNED TO HIRE ANYWAY? OR IS THIS FOUR ADDITIONAL?

>> WE KNOW WE HAVE A NEED AND THEIR MANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT. THESE FOUR POSITIONS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE THAT WILL BE +ONES IF WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE FACING.

WE KNOW WHEN WE CONSIDER THE STAFFING NUMBERS AND THE POPULATION AND CURRENT GROWTH. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED

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AT THE PARTICULAR POSITIONS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THESE IN. AND ADDING ONTO WHATEVER POSITIONS WERE ABLE TO GET DURING THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WILL GIVE US A REALLY GOOD COMFORTABLE POSITION WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD AND BE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT IN OUR SERVICES

PROVIDED. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

I'M LOOKING AT ESPECIALLY THE FIRST YEAR COVERING 75 PERCENT YOU'RE REALLY GETTING THREE FOR ONE RIGHT? MORE OFFICERS ANNUALLY AT THE BUDGET FOR ONE BUT YOU GET A

COUPLE MORE. >> YES SIR.

>> OKAY. >> CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOU WORK ON THIS AND BRINGING THIS TO US.

I THINK THIS IS YOUR SECOND GRANT REQUEST AND IN THREE YEARS, AND WE'VE HAD A SINGLE REQUEST SO I THINK IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE DYNAMICS OF THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY, HOW DO WE BEST ALLOCATE IT, WHAT WE DO GET MONEY THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE STATE AND FEDERALLY.

NOTHING VENTURED, NOTHING GAINED.

IT IS LEARNING FOR THE OTHER GRANTS AND THEN WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM, ALSO SAID WE HAVE TO ADD INCREASED, WE HAVE AN INCREASE TO POSITION I CAN REMEMBER IN THE LAST TWO YEARS SO WE'VE ADDED MAYBE 3000 HOMES AND WHATEVER, 10,000 PEOPLE.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE LEVERAGE SOME FEDERAL MONEY TO HELP US JUMPSTART THE BIGGEST THING I'M EXCITED ABOUT AND YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, IS COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I KIND OF HAD BEFORE WAS THAT AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT SEEMED LIKE EVERYBODY WAS INSTRUCTED TO STAY WITHIN THE PUBLIC. DON'T GO TO THINGS LIKE TRUNK OR TREAT AND DO THINGS AT THE END OF A WAS FELT THAT THE MORE THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, THE MORE PEOPLE GET THE ROLE MODELS THEY WOULDN'T OF HAD A HOME BECAUSE ISSUES AT HOME THEY ABLE TO TALK TO OFFICER SO-AND-SO, SERGEANT SO-AND-SO AND HELP THEM THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME.

WHEREAS, THERE MAY RELY ON THEIR BEST FRIEND WHO IS NOT THE BEST PERSON TO GET ADVICE FROM AND SUBSEA COMMUNITIES WHERE THE POLICE WERE SO ACTIVE AND INVOLVED THAT WHEN THE CRIME HAPPENED, EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, IS NOT JOHNNY'S GOT TO BE JIM, BECAUSE JOHNNY WAS OVER HERE HELPING OUT AND EVERYBODY KNEW EVERYTHING. IT'S EXCITING TO SEE ALL THE PROGRESS THAT INTERIM STEWART STARTED AND YOU PICKED UP ON AND I WILL TELL A STORY TO THE COUNCIL THAT I SHARED WITH YOU.

I GOT A CALL PROBABLY A MONTH AGO OR MONTH AND HALF AGO.

WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE CHIEF WAS DOING BECAUSE HE PULLED UP TO A CROSSWALK, GOT OUT, HE HUNG THE CROSSWALK PERSON AND THEN HE GAVE THEM A SACK WITH SOME BREAKFAST TACOS AND THE PERSON HEARD THE CHIEF THANKING HIM FOR THE WORK THEY'RE DOING.

AND I WAS LIKE MAN, THAT TO ME, THAT IS A STEP I THINK THIS WILL HELP CONTINUE THAT WHERE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES INSTEAD OF CHASING CALL AFTER CALL AFTER CALL.

YOU GOT TIME TO SLOW DOWN AND ACTUALLY ASKED SOMEONE, CAN HELP YOU? OR HOW CAN I ASSIST YOU? I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU, AND THE GRANT WRITING PROCESS, WE KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE HIGH ENOUGH UP, THAT WE NEED TO WRITE A RECOMMENDATION LETTER TO HELP YOU KNOW, LET ME OR THE CITY MANAGER KNOW AND WE CAN MAYBE GET SOME EXTRA HELP TO GET HUTTO ABOVE THE OTHER TOWNS.

>> YES SIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? IF NOT, I THINK A MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER. QUESTION WAS TO PROVE 10.2 IS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. APPROVING 10.1 IS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> IS 10.2.

>> SORRY, 10.2. R-2022-055, HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.3. Consideration of a public hearing and possible action on Resolution No. R-2022-021 authorizing and creating the Estates of Hutto Public Improvement District within the City of Hutto pursuant to Chapter 372 Texas Local Government Code, providing an effective date, and related matters thereto. (Legal)]

>> MOTION PASSES SIX ÃZERO. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.3, CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2022-021 AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE ESTATES OF HUTTO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 372 TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND RELATED MATTERS THERETO. LEGAL SOUNDS LIKE A CHRISTIAN.

>> I THINK KEVIN IS HERE PRESENT ON THIS BUT.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS KEVIN PIERCE PARTNER OF -- I

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REPRESENT GFL HOMES. TONIGHT, JUST TO CATCH THE COUNCIL UP INTO NEW COUNCILMEMBERS ON WHERE THE PROJECT STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.

GFL HOMES WAS ON A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE THOMPSON'S IT WAS CALLED THE THOMPSON TRACK I THINK LOCALLY.

AND ON BEHALF OF THEM, WE SUBMITTED A PIT PETITION ON SEPTEMBER 16 LAST YEAR WITH A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SINCE THEN, THERE BEEN SOME DELAYS ON TRYING TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SQUARED AWAY AND SOME SERS LOCKED IN.

SINCE THAT TIME WITH THE DISCUSSIONS HERE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND SINCE IT HAS BEEN CLOSED 89 MONTHS NOW, COSTS HAVE CHANGED, DEVELOPMENT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN THE ORIGINAL PETITION IN SEPTEMBER ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF DATE BECAUSE COSTS HAVE CHANGED. AND BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL, WE ARE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE AMOUNT IN ORDER TO FUND MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SERVES THE CITY AS A WHOLE INSTEAD OF JUST THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY.

AND SO, WE WERE HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FOR THE LESSER DOLLAR AMOUNT.

SINCE THE AMOUNT NEEDS TO CHANGE AND WE NEED TO RESUBMIT, GFL HOMES HAVE SINCE CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY SO NOW THEY ARE THE TRUE TITLE OWNER TO THE PROPERTY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND BRING A NEW PETITION TO THE CITY WITH NEW OWNERSHIP AND NEW AMOUNT SO WE CAN FIND MORE TRUE COMMUNITY BENEFITS. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS SIMPLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED FROM THE LAST SESSION A FEW MONTHS AGO AND THEN, TAKE NO ACTION AND LET THIS SIT AND WILL BRING YOU NEW PETITION BACK HOPEFULLY ONCE WE HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THE CITY NEW POLICY THAT WE UNDERSTAND IS CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS.

AND HOPEFULLY, WITH AN APPROVED SER.

>> AT THE TIME WE WOULD OPEN UP A NEW PUBLIC HEARING WITH

NEW COST. >> WE BASICALLY START THE

PROCESS OVER. >> SO YOU ARE ASKING THE ONE THAT WE STARTED MONTHS AGO TO BE CLOSED AND COME BACK LATER

FOR A NEW ONE. >> JUST LET THIS RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO IT.

>> DISCUSSION OF QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> DID YOU SEE -- HE SAID WE NEED TO DO IT.

>> I DID. BUT I THINK THIS WORKS JUST AS

WELL. >> WORKS THE SAME.

>> OKAY. >> THEY WANT TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES SO IT SOUNDS BETTER TO CLOSE IT.

>> I WILL LET THE COUNCIL KNOW PETER DID MEET WITH DEVELOPER A MONTH OR SO AGO, WE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT, I GUESS THAT A CONCERN ABOUT MY CONCERNS REGARDING WHAT I FELT WAS A LACK OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND I TOLD HIM MY POSITION WAS PRETTY STRONG. COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT BENEFITS HUTTO AS A COMMUNITY, AND SO, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT -- ONE THING, THEY WERE GOING TO OTHER COMMITTEE BENEFIT, DONATE RIGHT AWAY. BUT NOT BUILD THE ROAD.

THERE WILL BE MILLION-DOLLAR HOMES MY ISSUE THEN WAS IF YOU BUILD MILLION-DOLLAR HOMES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE MILLION-DOLLAR TYPE ROADS NOT POTHOLES AND ALL THAT.

WE DO HAVE THE MONEY AS A CITY TO GO OUT AND BUILD ROADS FOR NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE EXISTING, SO I WAS OF THE OPINION I TOLD THE DEVELOPER THAT, TO ME, COMMITTEE BENEFIT AS YOU JOURNEY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LIKE WE DID WITH THE DEVELOPER OFF EXCHANGE, AND THEN MAKE THEM BUILD THE ROAD ALSO. AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL, BASICALLY IT DOESN'T COST TAXPAYERS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND I TOLD THEM, IT SWUNG IS OPINION A GAL VOTED REGULARLY. IT IS 1/7 OF THE VOTE BUT I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT IT. AND MAYBE TRYING TO TWEAK IT AND COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN.

>> WE THINK WE WILL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT. IT WILL BE BETTER THAN IT WAS ORIGINALLY. AND THAT'S ALWAYS OUR GOAL.

>> OR IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY. WILL WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME

BACK. >> THANK YOU.

>> HEARING NUMBER CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

RESOLUTION R-2022-021 AT 8:05 PM, JUNE 2, 2022.

[11.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

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THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM 11.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENT AND/OR REMOVAL CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPER CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.> THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MET ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND INTERVIEWED TWO APPLICANTS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO UNANIMOUSLY PUT FORWARD TWO NAMES FOR NOMINATION. SO CHUCK SPRINGS, WE NOMINATE HIM TO BE POINTED TO THE ADA TASK FORCE.

AND BART HUTCHINGS, WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM TO BE POINTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> MOTION? >> YES.

>> I WILL SECOND. THEY WERE BOTH EXPERIENCED, STRONG CANDIDATES IN THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HELP

SERVICE. >> WHAT WAS THE SECOND?> ART HUTCHINGS. ONLY BECAUSE WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN PNZ IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

CAN YOU ALSO TELL US WHAT HIS QUALIFICATIONS ARE?

>> YES HERE'S -- HE IS HERE. HE ALSO SERVED IN WISCONSIN.

>> NORTH OF HERE. >> IS THERE ANY WAY IN THE FUTURE, THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE WILL AT LEAST HAVE THE ONES OF THAT BEFORE THAT THE RESUMES THEY APPROVED, SO

WE SEE THEM BEFORE WE VOTE. >> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> I GOT TO TALKING, YOU SECONDED?

>> YES. >> ANYMORE DISCUSSION? CHUCK SPRINGS AND BART HUTCHINGS.

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.2. Discussion on the FY 2023 budget process and major revenues (Angie Rios)]

MOTION PASSES SIX ÃZERO. GOOD LUCK, A LOT COMING WITH PNZ. NEXT IITEM 11.2.

DISCUSSION ON FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET PROCESS AND METER

REVENUES. >> I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TO START THE DISCUSSION FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. WE HAVE LOTS TO GO BUT I'M HAPPY WE WILL HAVE A FULL PROCESS THIS YEAR AND GO THROUGH IT. I WANTED TO START THIS YEAR TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDS, THE THRILL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS UP TO DATE. ANOTHER SUMMER BEEN THROUGH MAYBE ONE BUDGET AND SOME HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH ANY WITH THIS YET. AND SO, TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT AND THE MAJOR REVENUES SOME INFORMATION ON THE PERSONNEL, SOME OF THE KEY FINANCIAL DATA AND TALK ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WILL CONTINUE ON.

SO OF COURSE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE GENERAL FUND, THUS THE BIGGEST FUND WORRY OF AD VALOREM TAXES, SALES TAX, THE MAJOR SOURCES OF REVENUE IN THE FUND.

ALONG WITH FRANCHISE FEES THAT WE GET FOR ELECTRIC, CABLE, OTHER UTILITIES. GAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PERMITS AND LICENSES THAT COME THROUGH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, FINES OR BE ALL THE COURT FINDS THE CITATIONS ISSUED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE SCHOOL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE DO HAVE DRAINAGE FEES THAT ARE IN THE FUND TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE STREETS AND MANAGE ISSUES THEN CHARGES FOR SERVICES JUST VARIOUS THINGS. SO WHEN PEOPLE APPLY FOR PERMITS FOR EVENTS OR THEY USING OUR PARKS FACILITIES, THE PAY FOR RENTAL ON THAT AND THEN THEIR CREDIT CARD FEES WOULD BEGIN CHARGING FOR THE COURT AND PERMITS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE DIVISIONS.

THE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT WHICH INCLUDES THE CITY MANAGERS OFFICE, CITY COUNCIL, HUMAN RESOURCES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. FINANCIAL SERVICES, THE FINEST APARTMENT IN MUNICIPAL COURT. IT IS ACTUALLY NOT REPORTING TO ME TEMPORARILY. WHILE WE ARE IN A TRANSITION PLACE SO THAT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE UNDER FINANCIAL SERVICES.

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YOU HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS AND STREETS AND DRAINAGE. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNICATIONS WHICH INCLUDE THE CITY SECRETARY COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, IT WAS IN THERE AND YOUR LIBRARY. AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, PARKS AND, BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND FLEET MANAGEMENT.

ALL OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. LOT OF STUFF THERE! WE HAVE SOME UTILITY FUNDS, PUBLIC WORKS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATIONS ARE PAID FROM OUT OF THAT AND THEN ALSO COME UTILITY BILLING FOR THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND UTILITY BILLING DEPARTMENT IS IN THE UTILITY OPERATING FUND. WE ALSO HAVE UTILITY IMPACT FEE FUND WHERE THE WATER IMPACT FEES ARE RECORDED BECAUSE THEY RESTRICTED THEY HAVE TO BE IN A SEPARATE FUND.

THERE WE HAVE THE SOLID WASTE FUND WHERE ALL THE CHARGES AND PAYMENTS FOR GARBAGE COLLECTION FROM THE RESIDENCE IS REFLECTED

IN THAT FUND. >> THUS MOSTLY PASSED THROUGH.

>> JUST JUST TO PASS THROUGH, RIGHT.

WE COLLECT FROM THE CITIZENS AND THEN, PAY FOR THE SERVICE.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, A LOT OF THEM SMALL. COURT FUNDS ARE VERY SMALL BUT THEY ARE STATE-MANDATED FEES THAT GET CHARGED WHEN YOU HAVE A CITATION AND BUT THEY RESTRICTED FOR USE IN CERTAIN THINGS LIKE SECURITY, TECHNOLOGY, TRUANCY PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR THAT BY STATE LAW. THEN WE HAVE THE PEG FUND, FEES RECEIVED BY THE CABLE PROVIDER BUT THEY RESTRICTED FOR USE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS BROADCASTING, EDUCATIONAL MEDIA, GOVERNMENT ACCESS TELEVISION. WE DO GET THAT FROM SPECTRUM CABLE AND WE ARE RESTRICTED AND REASON FOR BROADCASTING THESE MEETINGS AND LIKE CLOSED CAPTIONING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT ON.

GIVE THE HOTEL TAX FUND WHICH IS OCCUPANCY TAX FROM THE LOCAL TELLS US TO PASS THROUGH. THEY CHARGE THE PEOPLE THAT STAY THERE AND THEN REMIT TO US.

IT IS ALSO RESTRICTED BY STATE LAW FOR USE IN ADVERTISING AND EVENTS THAT BRING TOURISTS IN. THE TERM IS HEADS AND BEDS.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO USE IT FOR THINGS THAT WOULD HELP BRING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY. A LOT OF CITIES USE IT FOR A VISITORS CENTER, BUT IN THEIR MARKETING.

ADVERTISEMENTS THAT GO OUT ACROSS THE STATE OR SOMETIMES YOU SEE BROCHURES AND DISTANT PLACES WE GO IN.LOOK AT AUSTIN AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

ALL OF THAT RADIO ADVERTISING, DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE'VE ALSO USED SOME OF THE MONEY FOR COKE FESTIVAL AND BIG EVENTS THAT WOULD BRING PEOPLE INTO TOWN.

WE HAVE A PARKING PERMIT FUND WHICH IS THE FEES THAT DEVELOPERS ARE PLAYING IN THE USE OF GIVING IS PARKLAND ALSO RESTRICTED FOR USE ON PARK IMPROVEMENTS OR PARKLAND ACQUISITION AND WE ARE USING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT TO DO SOME OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS SINCE YOU REPROVE THE BATHROOMS AND SOME OF THOSE LIGHTS AT THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE PUTTING THOSE TO USE.

LAST YEAR YOU REINSTATED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE.

SO THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT FUND IS WHERE THOSE WILL BE RECORDED AGAIN THOSE ARE RESTRICTED. THEY CAN ONLY BE USED ON PRODUCTS IDENTIFIED IN THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE FEES BEGIN TO COME IN BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT JUST YET.

THOSE WILL BE PICKING UP. THEY HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS, GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEBT SERVICE WHICH IS ALL AD VALOREM, THAT'S ALL OF YOUR TAX SUPPORTED THAT THE MONEY HAS TO GO IN THERE BECAUSE ONCE WE SET THE RATE, IT IS RESTRICTED TO ONLY BE USED FOR DEBT SERVICE CANNOT BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS IN HIS OWN FUND AND THE UTILITY HAS DEBT, ALSO WE ARE PAYING FOR IT BY THE RATEPAYERS USING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES PAY FOR PART OF IT AND IMPACT FEES ARE PAYING FOR PART OF THE DEBT SERVICE AND UTILITIES. TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR REVENUES THIS IS AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY'VE BEEN GROWING PRETTY STEADILY WITH GROWTH HERE IN THE CITY, 2020 Ã2021 IS PRETTY FLAT BUT SOME OF IT, WHAT MAKES SOME OF THE SLIMMER DIFFICULT ARE SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS WHERE WE HAVE TO REIMBURSE PEOPLE PROPERTY TAXES, SO THAT WILL BE NETTED OUT OF THE NUMBERS WHICH DEPENDING ON HOW THAT IS GROWING, IT CAN AFFECT SOME OF THAT HERE RIGHT NOW I AM BEING EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE AND THE PROPOSED 23 NUMBER I REALLY HAVE NOT PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE THE REVIEW WE KNOW WHAT THE VALUES GOING UP PEOPLE WILL PROTEST.

24 PERCENT OF VALUES ARE UNDER PROTEST RIGHT NOW.

$1 BILLION. 4 BILLION TOTAL IN THE INITIAL ROLE, BILLION DOLLARS CURRENTLY UNDER, HAS A PROTEST FILED AGAINST AND WILL BE GOING FOR THE TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THEN, AS THEY MAKE THE DECISION RESTRICTED TO THE NUMBERS, SEE

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HOW OTHERS ARE GOING AND HOW IT'S TRENDING, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BETTER PROJECT WHAT WE THINK THE INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR WILL BE. BUT WE ARE KIND OF HOLDING OFF TO SEE HOW THAT WILL ALL PLAY OUT.

WE DO HAVE ACCORDING TO THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TO US FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WE HAVE 500 MILLION DOLLARS IN A NEW VALUE, NEW HOMES AND NEW COMMERCIAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DO HAVE THAT. WE HAVE $1 BILLION UNDER PROTEST RIGHT NOW. WE DO EXPECT THAT SOME OF THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY GET REDUCED. SO IT WON'T BE THE SAME NUMBERS WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW THAT WILL TREND THROUGH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

>> DO YOU HOW MUCH OF THAT IS HOMESTEAD PROPERTY VERSUS NOT

HOMESTEAD AND COMMERCIAL? >> I DON'T, BUT IT SHOULD BE

ON THE REPORT OR I CAN GET IT. >> THEY MAKE IT A REDUCTION BUT IT WON'T CHANGE WHAT THEY GET TAXED ON BECAUSE IF YOU WENT UP 50 PERCENT AND THE UNIT 10, THEY CAN SAY IS ONLY 40 PERCENT YOU CAN STILL GET CAPPED AT 10.

>> IF YOU CAN'T GET THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FLOAT BACK TO WHERE CURRENTLY -- YORK ALREADY UNDER WHAT IT IS.

THE HOMESTEAD ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE.

>> WE HAVE SOME PROTESTED THAT HER FROZEN PROPERTIES ARE AT SOME DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EXEMPTION.

EVEN SOME OF THE FROZEN PROPERTIES HAVE --

>> THERE BEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WITH 65+ SOME OF THE EXEMPTIONS WERE DROPPED OFF I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OFFICE AND OF COURSE, I GUESS --

>> IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE DID --

>> OKAY COMPLAINT TO THE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEKING

TO GET THAT ADDED BACK ONTO. >> I THINK WAS JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING FOR ALL THE WAS A TALK TO THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY VOTED TO REMOVE THAT. BECAUSE IT REALLY HAD NO IMPACT TO THOSE PEOPLE ARE FROZEN AT 65.

GIVING THEM AN EXEMPTION DIDN'T CHANGE I PULLED IT MANY RIGHT PULLED UP THIS I WOULD PUT THE TAX BILLS AND PAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX THE LAST THREE YEARS.

THEN WITH 60,000 EXEMPTION TWO YEARS AGO, 30 LAST YEAR AND YOU KNOW SO EVEN CHANGE FROM 60 TO 30 DIDN'T CHANGE HER TAXES.

BECAUSE OF HER FROZEN FOR SO LONG.

BECAUSE IS BASED ON THAT DATE THAT TIMEFRAME WHEN THEY WERE

FROZEN. >> THANK YOU.

>> AFTER LOOKING AT THE END TALKING TO MY OFFICE AND COMMUNICATIONS, WE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO EITHER CAME IN OR CALLED US ON THE PHONE AND WE HAVE TRIED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT SO THEY UNDERSTAND.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT IT MIGHT AFFECT SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DIDN'T, WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THAT.

THAT WAS, IT WAS REVOKED BY COUNSEL.

REALLY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT FOR THEM.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SEEING IS VERY SMALL INCREASE IN MUSCLE BECAUSE WE REALLY ADD AN ONSHORE POINT HERE, WE ARE STILL VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS OF THE NUMBERS OF AD VALOREM AND WE WILL WATCH THAT. THE CERTIFIED ROLE IS OBVIOUSLY BY LAW DUE BY JULY 25. WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE KNOW REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THERE.

SALES TAX, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF IT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU PUT IN PLACE TODAY, MAYOR. BECAUSE IT IS, AND WITH THAT AWFUL WORD OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND, RECESSION, THIS WOULD BE, COULD BE AFFECTED VERY QUICKLY WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN. SO, WE DID BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY THIS YEAR, WE DO, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY OVERBUDGET, WE ARE LOOKING TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING RECESSION AND WE DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS DUE TO INFLATION.

IF PEOPLE STOP SPENDING OR INFLATION, SOME NUMBERS CHANGE, IT IS REALLY UNSURE WHAT IT WILL DO SO WE STILL TRYING TO STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT. UNTIL WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY WE HAVE MORE MONEY WITH A COME BACK AND TRY TO CUT THE BUDGET.

I THINK WILL AGREE IT'S A BETTER AVENUE FOR THAT.

WE HAVE OUR FRANCHISE FEES. THEY HAVE GONE, SOME OF THE BIGGEST ONE ACTUALLY COMES IN LATER IN THE SUMMER.

WE WILL BE MONITORING NOT TO SEE IF IT'S GOING UP, THAT IS OUR ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEE. IF WE SEE THAT TRENDING UPWARDS, WE WILL ADJUST THIS NUMBER A LITTLE BIT.

THAT IS 650,000 OF THE 950. THAT IS THE BIGGEST PART OF IT.

WE DO GET FROM THE CABLE COMPANY AND THINGS LIKE THAT

BUT THE ELECTRIC -- >> THE COMPANY PLANNING ON BRINGING FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY DON'T PAY THAT BUT TO THE PROVIDERS THAT COMMIT TO SERVE THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS, THEY

WILL BE PAYING? >> YES.

IF THERE CABLE SERVICES. >> IT HAS TO BE PROVIDING TV

SERVICES? >> COULD BE INTERNET ONLY?

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>> NO INTERNET WOULDN'T. IT'S USUALLY TELEPHONE OR CABLE AND THEN THE STATE LEGISLATURE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO SAID THAT COMPANIES WHO PROVIDE BOTH ONLY HAD TO PAY THE HIGHER OF THE

TWO. >> OFFER REMEMBER THERE'S SOME KIND OF COURT CASE GOING THROUGH WHERE BECAUSE INTERNET PROVIDERS ARE STREAMING PHYSICALLY CABLE CHANNELS, SOMEONE IS SUING TO SET THEY SHOULD BE PAYING THE FRANCHISE FEE ALSO. I THINK THAT IS STILL OUT

THERE. >> RIGHT AND THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ON YOUR SATELLITE PROVIDERS TO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE DIRECTV AND THINGS LIKE THAT PROVIDE SERVICES THAT YOU DO WITH SOME OF THE STUFF? IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SALES TAX YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU CHARGE PEOPLE FOR SOME OF THE SERVICES.

THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT, INTERNET SO, AS STREAMING HAS GROWN YOU ARE RIGHT THERE LOOKING MORE AND MORE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH THAT.

>> THIS IS PERMITS AND LICENSES YOU CAN SEE THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE HAD TREMENDOUS RIGHT NOW, AS YOU SEE FROM THE REPORT AND PERMITS THEY REALLY SLOW DOWN, HER BACK TO THE 2020 NUMBER PERMITS RIGHT NOW. WE DO THINK THAT, WE HAVE CHANGED SOME OF THE FEE SOME EXPECT IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BUT RIGHT NOW DEPENDING WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD WHERE IT WOULD BE FOR NEXT YEAR SURRENDER WERE STILL BEING CONSERVATIVE ON THAT NUMBER UNTIL WE CAN KIND OF WATCH THAT TRENDS DO THE SUMMER BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS ON TRACK, ACTUALLY SAID TO BE THE SAME AS FOLLOWING THE 2020 PERMIT

NUMBERS. >> COURT FINDS, THESE ARE CITATIONS, IT DROPPED WAY OFF AND COVID OF COURSE AS EVERYBODY DID BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PULL PEOPLE OVER, NOBODY WAS DOING ANY OF THAT TO STAY SAFE AND FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FORCE, WE'VE SEEN THAT REALLY PICK UP THIS YEAR.

SOME OF THAT IS IN THE SCHOOL, AND SOME OF THAT IS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A TREND UPWARD IN THOSE FINES AND NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN AND NOT RUN STOP SIGNS AND DO THOSE THINGS. THAT IS TRENDING BACK UP A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN SEE 19 HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST YEAR FOR A

WHILE. >> YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS ANSWER BUT I KNOW THAT WE MOVED OVER A PERSON INTO THE COURT SYSTEM TO HELP WITH I GUESS, ALL THE ISSUES PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH AND GETTING IN TROUBLE, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ARE MEMBER A LOT OF IT WAS COMING FROM THE SCHOOL AND SO, HOW DOES THAT WORK EXACTLY? DOES HISD ISSUE FINDS INTERESTING THAT WE PROCESS THEM AND WE COLLECT THE FINES?

OR DOES IT GO TO THE ISD? >> WE COLLECT THEM.

>> SO THEY ARE WRITING ON BEHALF OF US.

>> AND WE CAN ONLY COLLECT ON, I BELIEVE MISDEMEANOR OR ONLY LOWER-LEVEL CRIMES. DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS, SOME OF IT MAY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY, EVEN WHEN THE OFFICERS STOP PEOPLE THE COURT CANNOT HANDLE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL AND THEN HAS TO GO ON TO THE BIGGER COURT.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF TICKETS COMING IN FOR DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THE SCHOOLS AND WE DROP THEM OFF HERE AND THEN WE HAVE HAD TO ADD BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CASES OF JUVENILE COURT DATES, HAVING EXTRA STAFF PERSON IS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO US AND SHE IS AMAZING. SHE HAS JUMPED RIGHT IN AND PICKED RIGHT UP ON THAT. WE'VE ADDED EXTRA COURT DATES THAT AND THEN WE HAD SOME, JUST A LOT OF EXTRA CITATIONS NOW THE SCHOOL IS OUT FOR THE SUMMER, WE ARE HOPING MAYBE THAT WILL SLOW FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS UNTIL SCHOOL PICKS BACK UP IT MAY JUST MEAN OUR GUYS OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE BREAKING CURFEW AND BEING SILLY.

WE WILL SEE. BUT YES, HISD, A LOT OF THAT DOES COME TO US. THIS IS HOW THE REVENUES, WE TAKE ALL THOSE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TOGETHER FOR 2023 RIGHT NOW AS WE START THE BUDGET THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT BREAKS DOWN AD VALOREM IS STILL THE BIGGEST NUMBER.

LIKE I SAID WE EXPECTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT NOW 47 BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO 50. THEN THE SALES TAX THAT THE SECOND BIGGEST ONE. THEN PERMITS AND THEN SOME OF OUR FRANCHISE FEES AND SOME OF THE OTHER REVENUES.

THAT'S HOW IT IS SHAKING OUT RIGHT NOW.

SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE SEE HOW THINGS GO IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND OUR DEPARTMENT, THIS CHART IS A LITTLE MISLEADING. IN 2020 NUMBER IS NOT ACCURATE

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AS THE AUDITORS MADE A BAD EVER, SO THE NUMBERS NOT -- IT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE IN LINE PROBABLY WILL BE LESS THAN THE 2021 BUT IT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH THAT.

YOU WOULD SEE AN INCREASE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE RIGHT NOW WITH THE CUSTOMER NUMBER IS. WATCHING THE ESTIMATE THERE FOR 22 TO SEE IF IT'S IN LINE AND IF IT IS WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE. MAY BUMP THAT AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET UP. SOME OF THE WATER GROWTH IS TIED TO PERMITTING AND NEW HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT ONE.

AND ON THE WASTEWATER, THE SAME THING.

YOU CAN SEE THE WASTEWATER REACTIVE MORE CUSTOMERS THAN WASTEWATER BECAUSE THIS IS SMALLER BUT WE SERVE, WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS, WE ACTUALLY MORE WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS THAN WATER. THE REVENUES ARE HIGHER.IS ACTUALLY GROWING FASTER THAN THE WATER SERVICE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU DO TO THE JOB BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THAT PICKUP. PERSONNEL, SOME KIND OF AN INTERESTING CHART. SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COME UP TO 112, I FORGET WE WERE AT PAYROLL THIS WEEK.

HOW THOSE COME HOW THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY ARE BROKEN UP. WHERE EVERYBODY, DIFFERENT AREAS THEY SERVE. WHETHER THAT IS THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, 18 PERCENT OF THE STAFF WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE DO. OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN EVERY CITY GOING TO BE THE LARGEST TYPICALLY EMPLOYEE GROUP. AND THEN, WE HAVE UTILITIES AND ALL OTHERS ARE PRETTY SIMILAR TO PERCENT, THREE PERCENT, THE PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IN

THIS HOW IT BREAKS OUT. >> THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE SALARIES THE PAST YEARS COMPARED TO THE COST OF BENEFITS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO LOOK AT IS HOW THAT IS TRENDING WHERE HOW IT'S AFFECTING YOU KNOW US AND THE EMPLOYEES ON THE COST OF THOSE BENEFITS THEY'VE KIND OF BEEN DELIVERED UP AND DOWN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE CAN ALSO SEE THE SELLING OF THE GREEN IS GROWING BACK AGAIN DROPPED OFF BACKUP.

THE SKIN IS FOR THE CITY AS WE ARE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THOSE SERVICES BACK AND LOOK AT OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND THINGS FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES. YOU CAN SEE THIS YEAR IS THE HIGHEST THE BENEFITS COST HAS BEEN FOR THE CITY.

BUT MORE EMPLOYEES WILL MEAN MORE COST.

NOTHING UNUSUAL THERE. AS YOU GO TO THE BUDGET, THINGS WILL LOOK AT, ONE OF THE THINGS FOR YEARS AND YEARS YOU HAVE YOUR EXISTING PEOPLE SO WE START TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WILL COST YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT THEM TO HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE SO THAT WHEN WE DO THE ANNUAL REVIEWS, YOU GET MERIT INCREASES OR IF WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER COST-OF-LIVING OR SOMETHING FOR THEM AS INFLATION IS HIGH, WHAT THAT WILL COST ON EACH FUND.

AS WE TRY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THE BUDGET. THIS IS THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET HOW IS BROKEN DOWN IN THE GENERAL FUND, UTILITY GENERAL FUND IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST SOME UTILITY FUNDS, UTILITY DEBT SERVICE, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

THE UTILITY FROM THOSE PROBABLY STAY FAIRLY ONLINE.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE CURRENT BUDGET I DON'T EXPECT ANY FLUCTUATIONS OR ANYTHING THERE. THE SPECIAL DIFFERENT FUNDS ARE LIKE THE KIDS AND YOU ARE THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET FOR THOSE BECAUSE WE DO COLLECT AND PASS THROUGH THOSE FUNDS AND PAY FOR SERVICES THERE.

>> IS YOU SPEAK OF THAT FUND, WE HAVE WHAT, 11 OR SOMETHING

-- NOW? >> SIX.

>> AT SOME POINT -- >> WE HAVE TWO OFFICIALLY, TWO TIRZ AND THE PIDS AND TWO LG --

>> IS AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHERE WE BUDGET SOMEONE THAT HE OR SHE WILL JUST HANDLE SPECIFICALLY, KNOWING THAT WE NOW HAVE SO MANY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP A PERSON BUSY, TO

WHERE -- >> ACTUALLY READY, ONE MUST PEOPLE IS ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THEIR TIMEF THE JOB OF ONE OF M

PEOPLE. >> WE ARE ABLE TO CHARGE OUR

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TIME, TO INCLUDE THAT, BUT ALSO, THEY PAY FOR P3 TO BE ADMINISTERED SO THEY WILL BRING THE PLANS IN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO AND SEE THEM COME FORWARD AND THEN WITH THE DEBT LOOKS LIKE AND THE LEGAL FEES AND THEIR FEES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THEY'LL GO ON THAT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES IN THE AREAS. YOU WILL SEE THAT INFORMATION PROBABLY I WOULD SAY IN AUGUST. INFLATION.

AS OF APRIL, INFLATION FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS IS 8.3 PERCENT.

THAT IS A LOT, THE HIGHEST WE'VE SEEN IN A REALLY REALLY LONG TIME. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT NUMBER TO CONSIDER WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE FUEL AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT A PROJECT MIGHT COST TO DO A SIDEWALK OR REPLACED BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE COSTS ARE CHANGING VERY RAPIDLY TO GET LUMBER, TO GET CONCRETE TO DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY AWARE OF THIS NUMBER AS WE ARE GOING TO THE BUDGET AND LOOKING AT THAT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS OUT THERE IS EMPLOYEE COST INDEX. IT LOOKS EMPLOYEES NOT TO STATE AND GOVERNMENT WORKERS I PULLED US SPECIFICALLY BUT ALSO FOR CORPORATE AND ALL EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS THIS WAS AS OF MARCH.

THEY DO IT QUARTERLY. WAGES AND SALARIES FOR STATE AND GOVERNMENT WORKERS AND SO OVERALL ONLY CHANGED 3.2 PERCENT. EIGHT PERCENT INFLATION.

THE CORPORATE IS DOING BETTER ACCORDING TO THIS THEY'VE INCREASED SALARY AND BENEFITS BIKE .2 PERCENT.

THEY ARE MANAGING SOME OF THAT BETTER, OF COURSE IT IS HARDER FOR GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, YOU'VE GOT LIMITED BUDGETS AND TAXPAYER MONEY TO MAKE SURE YOU HANDLE BUT LUCKILY WE JUST, AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF NURSING SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHER CITIES TALKING ABOUT FOUR ADJUSTED 4 BUT IT STILL MEANS EMPLOYEES ARE BEHIND 8.3 PERCENT INFLATION RIGHT NOW. AND FEELING YOU KNOW IN THEIR BUDGETS AT HOME. AT LEAST WE ARE, WE DID FOUR SO I FEEL? OR AT LEAST KEEP UP WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE ACROSS THE NATION IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE TO TREND.

THE CORPORATIONS AND PRIVATE BUSINESSES -- JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THIS THE AMOUNT OF DEBT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING CURRENTLY. THIS IS JUST A PRINCIPAL, NOT THE INTEREST. -- WATER AND WASTEWATER HUNDRED 23 MILLION AND THEN A SMALL BIT OF DEBT FOR THE MEGA SITE 8.5 MILLION. THOSE ARE FACTORING IN ALL OF THAT, THIS BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT.

>> COULD WE ADD A COLUMN WITH INTEREST?

>> SURE. QUICK JUST SO WE HAVE THE FULL PICTURE. IT CAN BE REFINANCED AND STUFF BUT AS INFLATION GOES UP RATES ARE GOING UP SO THE OPPORTUNITY

IS GETTING MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. >> YES, RIGHT.

THAT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN THE 185.

>> AND ODDS OF GETTING IT LOWER NOW.

>> PRETTY SLIM. BUT, THE 122 MILLION IS A BIG IMPACT IN WATERWAYS, WATER FUNDS WHEN WE ARE BUDGETING.

THOSE REPORT NUMBERS TO KEEP IN MIND.

BECAUSE THAT DEBT ALSO, THE PAYMENTS ON THAT AT A POINT WHERE WE INCREASE IN THEM RIGHT NOW.

>> ONE OF THE QUESTION. 70 MILLION OR 60 MILLION WAS SPENT FOR THE WATER SYSTEM, WAS THROUGH GEO BONDS.

>> COS. QUESTIONS THAT FALL UNDER WATER AND WASTEWATER?

>> YES BECAUSE REVENUE TO PAY THOSE WAS PLEDGED BY THE SYSTEM AND WE DO HAVE SOME REVENUE BONDS IN THEIR, REVENUE BONDS ARE OBVIOUSLY -- BUT BECAUSE ARE BEING SUPPORTED BY WATER AND WASTEWATER, THAT'S THE INTENT.

>> SO THE INSP IS NOT AFFECTED BY THAT, BY THE COS.

>> NO, ONLY OTHERS BUT WILL ISSUE THOSE WHO BREAK OUT THE PART WE BELIEVE THAT WILL BE TAX SUPPORTED TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT WILL IMPACT WHEN WE DO THE OFFICIAL STATEMENTS AND OFFERINGS. AND THEN THE WATER WASTE PIECE OF IT.TONIGHT JUST KINDA START THE PROCESS.

WE KIND OF WENT OVER SOME OF THE HIGH-LEVEL STUFF, TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDS, REVENUES AND ALL OF THAT.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A FIRST DRAFT COMPLETE THIS FIRST WEEK.

WHICH THEN I'D BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU LITTLE ABOUT JUNE 16.

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FOR EACH MEETING YOU PLAN TO BE HERE TO TALK TO ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. SOME OF IT WILL GO THROUGH THE BIG STEP PERSONAL REQUEST AND WHAT WE ARE THINKING FOR NEW PERSONNEL AND BIG PROJECTS CAPITOL PROJECTS, CAPITOL EQUIPMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND TALKING ABOUT THE BIG THINGS IN THE BUDGET.

ANY BIG PROJECTS LIKE A REWRITE THAT WILL COST SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR LIKE THE COMP PLAN, THINGS IT MIGHT BE BIG IN THE BUDGET WERE BIG CHANGES IN CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS IN CERTAIN AREAS. WE WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE AREAS. ON AUGUST 4 WHEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET COMES FORWARD, YOU KIND OF ALREADY HAVE SEEN THE BIG STUFF AND YOU KNOW AND FEEL, YOU KNOW IT'S THERE WHEN YOU START TO SEE THAT. LAST ONE THAT WILL GO, HAS TO GET PUBLISHED FOR INSPECTION AND GOES OUT ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. THAT IS MY GOAL, TO KIND OF WORK US THROUGH EACH COUNCIL MEETING THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT. NOT TRY TO DO INTO MEETINGS LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. AND THEN SEPTEMBER 1, THE BUDGET HEARING AND FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN, SEPTEMBER 15 WOULD BE THE SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET TO ADOPT IT AND THEN THE TAX RATE.

THAT'S HOW IT WILL ALL PLAY OUT RIGHT NOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I LOVE THE BUDGET, I'M SORRY.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT THIS BUT I KNOW IT'S A LOT FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LAST YEAR WAS NOT FUN.

LITERALLY WALKED IN THE MONTH BEFORE THE BUDGET WAS DUE.

>> BUT WE GOT IT DONE. >> MAYOR --

>> VITAL JUST, WE WERE HEADED MEETINGS AT DEPARTMENT LEVELS AND WITH THE FINEST DIRECTOR AND MYSELF AND CITY MANAGER WITH EACH DEPARTMENT TO GO OVER THE BUDGET REQUEST.

SO WE HAVE DONE THE STEP ALREADY AS WELL.

>> THAT'S AWESOME. AHEAD OF THE GAME FROM LAST

YEAR. >>! NEXT WE? THINK WILL BUILD UP AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND REQUEST AND TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE 16TH.

IN EACH OF THE MEETINGS GOING THROUGH DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE THINK IS NEEDED FOR THE

CITY. >> AWESOME.

>> IT'S EXCITING. >> THANK YOU.

[11.3. Consideration and possible action on the Outside Agency Funding (OAF) Process (Kristi Robich, Angie Rios)]

>> NEXT ITEM 11.3. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING PROCESS.

KRISTI, HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND WELCOME TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOT MET YET. THIS EVENING, I AND ANGIE WILL BE PROPOSING A SCHEDULE AND PROCESS FOR THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING THIS YEAR. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST, THIS WILL BE MY THIRD YEAR MORE OR LESS ON THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND RELATIONS SIDE AS FAR AS ORGANIZING THE NONPROFITS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO, BUT A KNOWN ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP OVER THE PAST CYCLE WAS EITHER NOT EVERYONE BEING AWARE OF THAT WE DO OFFER OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING, OR THEY'RE NOT CLEAR ON THE PROCESS.

IT TOOK ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING THEY SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SCHEDULE I BELIEVE THAT YOU DID VOTE TO HAVE THAT COMMITTEE FOR OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING WHICH WOULD BE COMPOSED OF SOME CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS STAFF LEVELS, SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. TONIGHT, WE ARE ASKING IS FOR WE ARE PROPOSING AS A TIMELINE. WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF DEPENDING ON IF Y'ALL APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE ARE READY TO GO FOR TOMORROW WITH POSTING ON THE WEBSITE.

AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA TO REALLY MARKET THAT WE DO HAVE THIS OFFERING AND TO KIND OF PUT THE BALL OUT THERE IN THAT COURT MAY BE FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE JUST DON'T EVEN KNOW EXIST. AND GIVING THEM THE TIMELINES ARE PUBLICLY POSTED. IT PUTS THE BALL IN THEIR COURT AND THEY ARE TO SUBMIT THAT THROUGH US AND AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE TIMELINES HOW THAT WOULD GO ALONG.LSO WORKED WITH ANGIE AND HER TEAM TO HOST A WORKSHOP.

A TECHNICAL WORKSHOP THAT IF ANYONE DOES HAVE QUESTIONS OR THEY'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE PROCESS WHERE THEY REALLY WANT SOME TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, WERE GOING TO HOST A WORKSHOP AS WELL. ROPING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF COME UP ACROSS THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND I DON'T KNOW ANGIE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD THAT OR IF YOU HAVE ANY, CITY COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO

ANSWER THOSE. >> CAQUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL START, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CHANGE, I THINK THE

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WAY YOU HAVE THIS SET UP, BROKEN IT UP LIKE HE SAID, BALL IS IN THEIR COURT. IF WE PUBLICIZE IT EVERYWHERE YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SHARING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE WEBSITE AND IF SOMEONE DOESN'T APPLY IN TIME, IS JUST LIKE A GRANT WRITING. YOU HAVE A DEADLINE AND YOU HIT IT OR YOU DON'T AND SO, I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HERE IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, I GUESS ADDRESS PEOPLES ISSUES.

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THAT. >> I'LL JUST SAY I REQUESTED THAT IT BE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL IN AUGUST SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE FINAL TAX NUMBERS IN JULY AND HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT REVENUE, SINCE IT IS ONE PERCENT OF THE REVENUE BEING GIVEN I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER FINAL NUMBER SO WE ARE ABLE TO AWARD THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT POSSIBLE SO WHEN IT COMES THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME TO BRING IT BACK.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?

>> I JUST THINK, IF I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING PROCESS AS PRESENTED, I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE SO I'M EXCITED I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE APPLICATIONS BUT TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE OVERALL IMPACT AND BEING ABLE TO DELIVER BACK TO THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION BUDGET AND SEE IF IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD TO DO BASED ON THE INFLATION RATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THIS IS TAXPAYER MONEY. SO WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT THE CITY NEEDS FIRST BEFORE WE DO OUTSIDE STUFF.

IN THE PROCESS EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT IS GOOD.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I WILL SAY THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGE.

I DO HOPE THAT THE NEXT YEAR, WE FIND A WAY AS A CITY TO EVOLVE OUT OF GIVING MONEY TO NONPROFITS THIS WAY AND INSTEAD, THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS FIGURING OUT A WAY TO USE RESOURCES AND EVENTS AND DO LIKE WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH OTHER CITIES TO WHERE THEY USE THEIR COMMUNITY EVENTS TO FUND THEIR NONPROFITS AND THAT WAY WE CAN USE THIS MORNING TOWARD SIDEWALKS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS BUT THEY DEFINITELY NEED YOUR HELP UNTIL SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES SIX ÃZERO. THANK YOU.

[11.4. Consideration and possible action regarding the removal of concrete barriers located within the Durango Farms Subdivision. (Matt Wojnowski)]

NEXT YOU WILL ITEM 11.4, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF CONCRETE BARRIERS LOCATED WITHIN THE DURANGO FARMS SUBDIVISION.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT

>> 700 MAIN STREET. I AM BACK HERE, TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO SPECIFICALLY, JUST WHEN DURANGO FARMS GOT STARTED WITH THE ISSUER BROUGHT UP WAS A CONCERN OF THE OF THE TRAFFIC FROM DURANGO FARMS, THROUGH EAST AND MAIN STREET TO OLD TOWN. AT THAT TIME, THE DEVELOPERS SAID HE FELT MOST OF THE TRAFFICKER WOULD GO THROUGH 1660 AND -- WERE THE MAIN ENTRANCES.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY BELIEVE THAT BUT NONETHELESS, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. WHAT WE ARE FINDING NOW IS THAT IT ISN'T SO. APPROPRIATELY SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DURANGO FARMS ARE FUNDING CONGESTION AT 1660, THEY CANNOT GET TO 6060 AND WAS TO GET THERE THEY CAN'T GET TO 79 SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO GET TO 79 SO THEY CAN GET TO WORK, THAT WILL ROUTE THEM THROUGH OLD TOWN OR POSSIBLY THROUGH HUTTO SQUARE, BUT PRIMARILY THAT WILL GO THROUGH A FEAST DAYS BLOCKED, TRAFFIC WILL COME UP THROUGH MAINE, EITHER GOING TO CUT TO THE LEFT AND GO TO EAST STREET, TAKE EAST STREET DOWN TO 79 AND HAVE THAT SAME TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1660 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1660, ACTUALLY, ON THE SET OF 1660 TOO IN THE MORNING TIME WILL BACK UP SEVERAL BLOCKS.

OR, THEY WILL COME UP MAINE AND HOOKAH RIGHT AND GO TO LIBERTY OR METCALF AND GOOD ON THOSE STREETS WHICH IS HUTTO SQUARE AND THEY WILL GO DOWN THE STREET TO EXCHANGE AND THEN TRYING TO GET ON EXCHANGE THERE, THERE ARE NO LIGHTS THAT

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YOU HAVE SCHOOL IN THE MORNING, YOU HAVE THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING IN. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE THAT TRAFFIC BACKED UP ALL THE WAY HALFWAY DOWN LIBERTY OR HALFWAY DOWN METCALF. SO EITHER WAY, YOU WILL BE ROLLING TONS OF TRAFFIC IN THEIR COMMENT AGAIN, TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE LOOK AT MITIGATION THINGS TO PUT IN PLACE, FOUR WAY STOP, SLOWER SPEED LIMITS.

NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN IT DONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME SO AGAIN, I KNOW OVER TIME, SEVERAL OF YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.

I KNOW IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE TO LET THE TRAFFIC GO THROUGH BEFORE THOSE MITIGATION THINGS WERE IN PLACE. SO I'M JUST HERE AGAIN TO ASK FOR THE MITIGATION TO BE PUT INTO PLACE SPECIFICALLY, I LIKE TO SEE LOWER SPEED LIMITS, I THINK IS APPROPRIATE, 25, FOUR WAY STOP TO THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO TRY AND SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC AS PEOPLE GO THROUGH.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER KIND OF MITIGATION FACTORS LIKE -- THOSE WILL PROBABLY BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THE FORWARD STOPS AND SPEED LIMIT SIGNS SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE REASONABLE THINGS TO DO SO THAT IS ALL THAT I'M HERE TO DO AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS SO HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE THE BARRIERS ARE REMOVED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST.

DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? >> I WILL DO THIS QUICKLY.

BACK ON JULY 1, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER TO INSTALL CONCRETE SAFETY BARRIERS MAY STREET AND EAST STREET AND IT DID SAY THE CITY COULD MOVE THOSE AWAY IF THEY WANTED TO.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPER AND RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE REQUESTED TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND SO THAT THIS IS TOTALLY A COUNCIL DECISION IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THERE BEEN REQUESTS FROM THE DEVELOPER AND RESIDENTS INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REMOVE THOSE

CONCRETE BARRIERS. >> COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON.

>> THIS IS WHY I'M SITTING OR ACTUALLY IT'S BROUGHT ME TO THE CHAMBER BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC AND HOW WERE THE ROADS ACTUALLY HANDLE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN DURANGO NOW BECAUSE I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT AS WELL IF THEY CAN ONLY COME IN 1660, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE

IMPACTED. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE AT A POINT TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS YET.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL BROUGHT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT SAFER, I DID REQUEST NOW TO CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT AND OLD TOWN AND WE DID A WHOLE PROCESS OF THAT TO CHANGE IT TO 25 BUT WE COULDN'T JUST ISOLATE ONE AREA IS WHAT WE ARE TOLD. CHANGES TO SPEED LIMIT.

I DO BELIEVE FOUR WAY STOP TO HELP.

WE HAVE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH ALL TIME TO GET AWAY FROM 79.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. HONESTLY, IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD PROBABLY DO IT TOO. FOR THE MOST PART YOU KNOW, I'M THE HOME ALL THE TIME SO I DON'T SEE HOW JUST TO GET TO KNOW YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BARRIER.

YOU I SEE A LOT OF TURNAROUND. I HAVE NOT SEEN AS MUCH CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WHICH WAS A HUGE HUGE DEAL.

I AM AFRAID THOUGH, IF WE OPEN THEM NOW, IT'S GOING TO BECOME A CONSTRUCTION THOROUGHFARE TO GET TO THAT OTHER SIDE AND AVOID 1660. IN MY OPINION, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M A RESIDENT RIGHT THERE, I DON'T THINK IT IS WISE WITH THE CONDITION OF OUR STREETS, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK THEIR DOGS AND KIDS THAT PLAY AND I WAS TELLING ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WOJNOWSKI TODAY ALMOST HIT SOMEONE HEADING DOWNTOWN SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE EAST STREET DIDN'T HAVE A STOP SIGN AND JUST WENT.

AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE YOU KNOW, IF WE OPEN IS UP HOW MUCH MORE PEOPLE WILL COME THROUGH AND WE MAY HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN. NO SIDEWALKS, BUS STOPS.

YOU HAVE A BUS STOP THERE, YOU CAN BARELY GET AROUND THE BUS.

YOU KNOW, NO THERE ARE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT DO HAVE THAT SAME CONCERN BUT I JUST THINK IT IS PREMATURE UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THE FUNDING AND THE RESOURCES TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE IF IT IS THE RIGHT TIME AND WHEN

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THE RIGHT TIME WOULD BE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE.

AND ANOTHER THING I DID TALK TO THE ASSISTANT MANAGER ABOUT WAS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE AS FAR AS SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE ESD. SINCE RESIDENTS ARE LIVING THERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAVING THOSE BARRIERS THERE, ARE WE RESTRICTING ACCESS IN ANY WAY? AND IF WERE GOING TO HAVE A GATE IN KEYCODE FOR THEM TO GET IN, IF WE NEED TO DO THAT WE COULD DO THAT TEMPORARILY SO THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN GET IN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS

LIVING THERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER --

>> I THINK WHEN THIS CAME UP IMMEDIATELY TO JUST WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONSTANT FLOW OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THOSE BYPASSING TEMPORARY BARRIERS AND YOU NEED SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT TO STOP THEM FROM BARRELING THROUGH CONSTANTLY ALL DAY LONG AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT BUILT OUT YET AND WILL BE JUST AS MUCH CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THEIR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS FOR THE RESIDENT FISH ULTIMATELY HAVE ANOTHER WAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE IT SAFER I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME FIGURING OUT, DO WE AT SOME STOP SIGNS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THAT, BUT TO OPEN AND WHEN IT WILL BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE HARDER ON THE ROADS ARE NOT BILLED FOR IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS PUTTING US IN THE EVEN WORSE POSITION RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S TIME TO MOVE AHEAD

WITH THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

>> MY THOUGHTS ARE IF WE OPEN IMMEDIATELY, METCALF IS GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE TO ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD HOW TO EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AND UNTIL GET THE EXTENSION OVER TO ED SCHMIDT WITH ANOTHER WAY OUT OF THE AREA, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE TRAFFIC PATTERN SINCE IN MY OPINION.

IN ADDITION TO THE STOP SIGNS FOUR WAY AT MAIN AND METCALF.

AND YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE TO MAKE EAST STREET OPEN UP MAIN STREET AND CHANGE THE FLOW.

DOING A STUDY ACROSS WHICH ONE IS RIGHT WHEN OPEN INVESTOR-OWNED IDENTIFY BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE OTHER ARTERIES OPEN BEFORE YOU OPEN ANOTHER VEIN IN MY OPINION.

AND IT'S GOING TO NOT BE SO GOOD TO HOPEFULLY WE GET 6060 STANDARD SOONER. HIS HAD THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS COMING, REBELS HAS DEALT WITH TRAFFIC, THEY CAN HANDLE A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHILE WE GET THIS FIXED IN MY

OPINION. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID SO FAR, WE ASK THAT FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, STAFF COMES UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE FOUR WAY STOPS PRIOR TO THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE 1660. BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BACKUP NOW WE WILL TEAR UP 66 AT BOTH ENDS OF OLD TOWN, AND WE ARE LITERALLY TOLD PEOPLE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GET OUT AND IT WILL BE A CONSTRUCTION MASS.

I DON'T MIND KEEPING THE BARRIERS UP NOW BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AND HAVE THE BARRIERS DOWN BY SAY SEPTEMBER 1. WITH STOP SIGNS AND MITIGATION, THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SO THAT WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION DOES HAPPEN, I THINK ULTIMATELY, THE REASON I DIDN'T THINK PEOPLE GO OUT TO 1660S BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED.

AND SO PEOPLE GO THE EASIEST ROUTE.

WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE I SEE THE PATTERNS CHANGING COMPLETELY AGAIN AND THEN IN THREE YEARS, WILL REMOVE 6062 NORTH-SOUTH ARTERIAL A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHANGE IN TRAFFIC PATTERNS AGAIN. UNTIL WE HAVE STOP SIGNS, NO WE CAN'T JUST -- WE BEEN THROUGH THAT ROBUST STOP SIGNS WITH THE CHIEF HAVING EXTRA PERSONNEL, I THINK WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY BUT MY HOPE IS, WE KEEP THEM IN PLACE NOW BUT WE DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO GET THEM GONE BY THE START OF CONSTRUCTION IN SEPTEMBER. WITH THE MITIGATION PRACTICES

WE TALKED ABOUT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM?

>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BARRIERS?

>> NO BECAUSE ONE IS AS I REMEMBER ONE WAS A LOCKBOX THAT WILL BE A PERMANENT LOCKBOX. WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE STREET.

>> I AM IN AGREEMENT I THINK WITH MOST OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

I AM IN FAVOR OF HAVING BOTH STREET EAST AND MAINE OPEN.

NOT NOW, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE NOW BUT I THINK JUST LEAVING ONE CLOSED AND ONE OPEN DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING JUST PUTS TWICE AS MUCH TRAFFIC ON MAIN STREET IF YOU DON'T OPEN EAST, IT DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING, IT JUST CREATES AS MANY PROBLEMS AS IT WOULD TRY TO SOLVE BY KEEPING ONE CURRENTLY CLOSED.

I WENT AND DROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAD IDENTIFIED

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WHAT I FELT WOULD BE THE FOUR IDEAL INTERSECTIONS TO CHANGE TO FOUR WAY STOPS MAINE IN LIBERTY, MAINE AND HUTTO, EAST AND HUTTO, EAST AND LIVE OAK. THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY DROP THE, I THINK THE SPEED ON THE STREETS AND SO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REQUEST THAT WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JULY.

BUT TO HAVE CITY STAFF COME BACK WITH US WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT FOUR WAY STOPS THEY THINK SHOULD BE ADDED, THOSE ARE KIND OF MY IDEA BUT I'M NOT A TRAFFIC GUY, I JUST DROVE IT. AND THEN, TO COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON 'S COMMENT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TONIGHT, IF WE TOOK A VOTE TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND THEN, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE, LEAVING UP THE GATES THAT ARE THERE, BECAUSE I WENT AND DROVE IT AND THERE ARE GATES ON BOTH.

>> THERE ARE.> ARE GATES BOTH ON MAIN AND EAST.

AND SO I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THE CONCRETE BARRIERS LEAVING UP THE GATES LEAVING THE LOCKBOXES THERE.

ALLOWING OUR ESD TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE NEW HOMES.

THE HOMEOWNERS GET PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GET THERE QUICKER.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS BUT WITH ALL OF THAT, WE WILL GET CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER -- >> I AGREE WITH EVERYONE.

I JUST LOOKED UP ABOUT 250 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

IF EVERYONE HAS TWO CARS IS ABOUT 500 CARS.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY DO HAVE TO GET OUT ON BIGGER AND 1660 AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC.

THE INTERSECTION OF COURSE IS AN ISSUE, IT IS BEING ADDRESSED. ALONGSIDE WITH EVERYBODY HERE, I DO FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TAKE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS UP BUT NOT AT THIS TIME. IN THE FUTURE, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP. THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF AS A NEW COUNCILMEMBER BUT JUST KIND OF LIKE HEARING THE HISTORY IN THE PAST YEAR AND PARTS AS WELL. I THINK EVENTUALLY IF WE GO THROUGH THE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS, THAT NEED TO BE DONE, WE CAN OPEN THE AREA UP AND HAVE THE WHOLE AREA FLOW WELL AND HAVE THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE IN MY OPINION.

NOT NECESSARILY FOR TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT IS THERE ACTION TO BE HAD ON THIS OR DIRECTION WE WANT TO DIRECT STAFF?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PARTICULAR STREETS, THE OLD TOWN AREA.

RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, INCLUDING REMOVING THE BARRIERS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> DIRECT STAFF TO RECOMMEND PUBLIC SAFETY MEASURES AND THAT INCLUDING REMOVING THE CONCRETE

BARRIERS? >> WERE ESD ACCESS ONLY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? HOW DO WE MITIGATE --

>> I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON IS TRYING TO SAY IS, KEEP THE GATES IN PLACE BUT REMOVE -- DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH 50 MITIGATION OF FOUR WAY STOP TRAFFIC MITIGATION.

>> OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND. PRIOR TO REMOVING --

>> PRIOR TO REMOVING THE BARRIERS.

>> WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND. I WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY IT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF REMOVING CONCRETE BARRIERS NOW.

BOTH STREET DELEGATES WITH THE LOCKS, I DON'T SEE ANY DOWNSIDE TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS NOW AND LEAVING THOSE UP BECAUSE WE CAN IMMEDIATELY ALLOW ACCESS FOR THE ESD.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY MEASURES.

WHATEVER YOU RECOMMEND. WHETHER IT IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY CALL THEM, TRAFFIC SELLING DEVICES OR FOUR WAY STOPS OR SPEED BUMPS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE BUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS NOW AND ALLOW THE ESD ACCESS.

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>> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> YES.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> MOTION TO REMOVE CONCRETE BARRIERS NOW, DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SAFETY MEASURES BY WHAT DATE? DO YOU WANT TO DATE?

>> I WOULD SAY BY THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY.

BECAUSE IF ANY CHANGE, FEEL PUT IN STOCKS, WE NEED THE RESIDENCE THE ENTIRE YEAR LIVING THERE WITH NO STOPS US TO GET USED TO SEEING STOP SIGNS FOR A WHILE, BEFORE YOU OPEN GATES. OTHERWISE, THE PEOPLE THAT NEVER JUVENILE STREET BEFORE FROM DURANGO, THEY WILL SEE A STOP SIGN AND THEIR BEHAVIOR WILL BE TO STOP BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR STREET. EVERYBODY ELSE IS BEEN LIVING IN OLD TOWN, IS NOT SEEING THE STOP SIGNS AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE COLLISIONS.

WE NEED TO PLAN FROM STAFF AND IMPLEMENT IT FOR AT LEAST WHATEVER, AFTER THE POLICE HAVE LIKE 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS TO TAKE TO GET THE NEW PATTERN OF ENFORCEMENT FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENCE BEFORE YOU ADD NEW TRAFFIC TO IT, WOULD BE MY

THINKING ON THAT. >> DO YOU WANT A DATE BY?

>> I WOULD SAY AT LEAST BY THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.

BUT THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE

DECISION -- >> WE CAN DO THAT.

>> HAVE THAT DONE BY JULY 21. IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND BRING BACK BY JULY 21, A PLAN, RECOMMENDED PLAN FOR SAFETY MEASURES FOR OLD TOWN TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC.OES THAT SOUND RIGHT? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> I WOULD RATHER LEAVE THE BARRIERS UP UNTIL THEN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHO PUT THE BARRIERS AND GETS UP, IS THAT THE DEVELOPER, THE GATE PERSON OR JUST THE CITY WITH THE GATES AND THE CONCRETE BARRIERS?

>> THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY PUT IN THE GATES AND THE BARRIERS.

BUT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO REMOVE THE BARRIERS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WHEN WE ARE READY TO REMOVE THEM.

>> SO IT IS OUR JURISDICTION WITH THE GATES.

IF WE ARE PROVING THIS WE ARE NOT GETTING THE DEVELOPER YOU

KNOW, -- >> I RE-WATCHED THE JULY 1 MEETING AND THEY WERE VERY CLEAR.

THEY SAID, WE ARE PITTING THEM IN AND THEY ARE YOURS.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER IT IS ON THE CITY.

>> I REMEMBER AT THE TIME THEY WERE NOT PUBLICLY DEDICATED ROAD SO THEY WERE DEVELOPER PROPERTY.

WE DIRECTED THE DEVELOPER TO PUT THEM UP OR WE WOULD ANTICIPATE DEDICATED -- EAT IF THEY WANTED TO PUT THEM UP OR TAKE THEM DOWN, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO.

>> IT SAYS HERE THE BARRIERS SHALL BECOME PROPERTY OF THE CITY AND FOLLOWING INSTALLATION, EXCEPT IN CITY SHOP RIGHT TO REMOVE REPLACE OR MODIFY.

>> RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS CITY PROPERTY.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO MOVE THEM TOMORROW RIGHT AWAY BUT WE WILL MOVE THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF THAT IS

YOUR DIRECTION. >> IF IT'S OKAY BEFORE WE VOTE, IT LOOKS LIKE -- WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> LEAVE THE BARRIERS UP AND ADD UNTIL WE GET A LOCKBOX AND

DETAILS ON JULY 21? >> I WAS LIKE TO MOVE THE BARRIERS NOW. THAT'S HER EYE.

>> I'M HAPPY TO MODIFY IT -- >> LET'S DO THIS.

GOING TO GET ME CONFUSED! HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE AND SECONDED.

THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, DIRECT STAFF TO REMOVE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND PROVIDE US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SAFETY MEASURES BY JULY 21. I WILL ENTERTAIN AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO DO THAT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THAT WAY WE JUST --

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO SAY CONCRETE BARRIERS CANNOT BE REMOVED UNTIL A SUFFICIENT LOCKBOX OF SECURING THE CURRENT GATES.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT PEER. >> OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. WE ARE NOT GOING TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS UNTIL LOCKBOXES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON THE GATES. MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? >> YES SIR.

>> ANYTHING IS BEEN PROVEN THAT CONSTRUCTION CREWS WILL JUST BYPASS ANYTHING THAT IS NOT LOCKED AND PUSHED THEIR WAY THROUGH TO GAIN EASIER ACCESS. THAT'S WHAT WE SAW BEFORE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS WERE THERE. IF WE DON'T HAVE PROPER

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LOCKBOXES SECURING IT, THAT'S WHATWE WILL SEE .

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AFTER LOCKBOXES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON THE GATES.

AND THEN ALSO, RECOMMEND OTHER --

>> THE MOTION IS AMENDING. THE AMENDMENT IS ONLY REMOVING THE CONCRETE BARRIERS AT THE TIME THE LOCKBOXES --

>> I'M THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, I'M GOOD WITH IT.

IF THE SECOND IS GOOD WITH THAT.

>> YES WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

>> LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

>> WORK YOUR WAY BACK DOWN. >> THE MAKER AND SECOND ARE OKAY WITH IT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. WE CAN IF YOU WANT.

IF THE PRESIDING OFFICER ALREADY RESTATED THE MOTION THAT BELONGS TO THE BODY SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE AMENDMENT.

>> OKAY. >> YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE VOTING RIGHT NOW. REMOVING CONCRETE BARRIERS --

>> YES SIR. >> IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

NOW THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE CALMLY DIRECT STAFF TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE BARRIERS, ONCE THE LOCKBOXES ARE PUT ON, AND THEY ARE TO HAVE RECOMMENDED LIST OF SAFETY MEASUREMENTS BROUGHT TO US BY JULY 21 2022.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? >> YES.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL RIGHT, HEARING HIM PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.5. Discussion and possible action to approve and/or confirm board expiration dates and assign seat numbers to City board, commission and task force members (Mayor Pro Tem Peter Gordon and Councilmember Krystal Kinsey)]

NEXT 11.5, IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNT I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL SINCE COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY WAS PART OF THAT AND IS NOT HERE.

>> I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND, I WAS GOING TO REQUEST TO TABLE IT ANYWAY. AND I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE JULY 7 MEETING.

AND SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL, THERE'S WE FOUND THERE IS ONE ORDINANCE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THIS BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THE ORDINANCE WAS SET UP TO HAVE THEM EVERY LIKE THREE, EXPIRE ONE YEAR AND FOUR OF THE NEXT INSTEAD OF 2 TO 3 LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE DOES.

WE MAY NEED TO RECOMMEND MODIFYING THAT ORDINANCE AND THEN THERE WAS SOME OF THE QUESTION ABOUT PNZ BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TWO YEARS TO THREE YEARS AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC THING TO FOLLOW BASED ON HOW THAT WAS DONE.

[11.6. Consideration and possible action regarding IBCA BBQ Cookoff, Mayor’s involvement and the process related too, including but not limited to emails, text messages and legal memorandum from and including the City Council, City Staff and City Attorney into possible Interference with Administration, Alleged Interactions with Members of the Public, Alleged Interactions with the City Manager and to the release of all information completely unredacted. (City Council)]

SO ANYWAY, >> ANYTHING ON CABLING DECIDED

TO JULY 7? >> HEARING ON, TABLED.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11.6. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE IBCA BBQ COOKOFF, MAYORS INVOLVEMENT AND PROCESS RELATED TO AND INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES AND LEGAL MEMORANDUM FROM INCLUDING THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY AND THE POSSIBLE INTERFERENCE WITH ADMINISTRATION, LEDGE INTERACTION WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, LEDGE INTERACTION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THE RELEASE OF ALL INFORMATION COMPLETELY UNREDACTED. REALLY, ONE THING AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS LACK OF TRUST WE CAN ALL AGREE HOPEFULLY ON THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK I GUESS A LOT OF CONCERN TO THE POINT WHERE HE ACTUALLY SPENT DOLLARS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I HAD OR HAD NOT DONE. I THOUGHT I WOULD DO THIS IN A PUBLIC SETTING, DISCUSS WHAT I DID AND AS COUNSEL, WE CAN PUBLICLY REPRIMAND ME OR NOT REPRIMAND ME WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO BUT LET'S DO THIS IN PUBLIC.

MY GOAL IS TO TRY AND KEEP STAFF AND LEGAL OUT OF CONCERNS WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE CAN CALL, EMAIL AND TEXT.

THIS ITEM REALLY ORIGINATED ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO WITH A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN TERMS OF WE JUST HAD OUR ORDEAL AND ALL THE ISSUES WITH, FORGOT THE GROUP THAT WAS AT THE AMPHITHEATER. AND I HAD THIS IDEA THAT WE COULD FIND OTHER REGIONAL EVENTS WE COULD GO TO THE AMPHITHEATER AND WE CAN -- I TALKED TO MEMBERS OF NONPROFITS

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CONCERNING THIS WHOLE THING LIKE WE TALKED TO THE BUDGET PROCESS LAST YEAR FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE.

THAT I WANTED TO CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET.

IN THE MONEY WE SPENT TO PUT ON EVENTS.

ROUGHLY IN APRIL, A GUY BY THE NAME OF, I'M GOING TO FORGET HIS NAME APPEARED CHUCK REACHED OUT AND SAID HEY, TALK ABOUT THE BARBECUE STUFF, WE SHOULD COME DOWN TO SEE THE PLACE.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS -- THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE GOT A WIDE SELECTION OF BARBECUE ESSENTIALS.