[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
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>> IT IS 7 O'CLOCK. WE WILL CALL TO THE SESSION TO ORDER FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 16 2022.
NEXT WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
NEXT WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.>> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. FIRST ITEM IS THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION EVENT WHICH IS THIS SATURDAY, JUNE 18.
STARTING FROM ABOUT 1 O'CLOCK UNTIL 6 O'CLOCK.
IT IS AT THE -- PARK ALSO BY THE HUTTO, BLACK FAMILIES OF HUTTO. THE CHIEF WILL BE THE SPEAKER IN THE PROGRAM. THERE WILL BE FOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT AND VISITORS. HUTTO MARKET DAYS IS ALSO THE SATURDAY FROM 9 O'CLOCK TO 4 O'CLOCK.
HISTORIC DOWNTOWN HUTTO. THEY WILL FEATURE LOCAL ARTISANS, HANDMADE PRODUCTS AND DELICIOUS FOOD.
THERE IS A NOTE THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY GET SOMETHING FOR FATHER'S DAY, IN CASE YOU FORGET.E ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT AS FATHERS. HUTTO PUBLIC LIBRARY SUMMER PROGRAM. THERE IS A VARIETY OF EVENTS OCCURRING, PLEASE LOOK ON THE WEBSITE TO SEE THOSE.
ONE OF THOSE INCLUDES MINI GOLF EVENT FRIDAY, JUNE 17 FROM 12:00 TO 4:00 PM. ANDY FAMILY MOVIE DAY NEXT WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22 AT 2:00 PM. FINALLY, IT IS GETTING VERY CLOSE TO 4 JULY. HUTTO WILL CELEBRATE 4 JULY ON MONDAY, JULY 4. THERE WILL BE EVENT FROM 5:00 UNTIL 9:15 PM AT THE AMPHITHEATER. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE FOOD AND FIREWORKS. THERE WILL ALSO BE LIVE MUSIC AND KIDS ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS A MYRIAD OF VENDORS.
[6. PROCLAMATION]
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT THAT BRINGS US TO PROCLAMATION.
PRIDE MONTH. >> MEMBERS, WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO COME UP? WE WILL MAKE IT EVEN.
A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING PRIDE MONTH FOR JUNE 2022.
WHEREAS, A POLICE RAID ON STONEWALL INN, EIGHT CLUB IN NEW YORK JUNE 1960 NEST BOX AND A PRESENT FOR GAY RIGHTS AROUND THE WORLD. WHEREAS THE FIRST PRIDE MARCH WAS HELD IN NEW YORK CITY IN 1970 TO MARK THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE STONEWALL UPRISING.
WHEREAS, PRIDE MONTH IS CELEBRATED IN JUNE, TO REMEMBER THIS HISTORY AND INSPIRE US TO LIVE UP TO OUR NATIONS PROMISE OF EQUALITY, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WHEREAS, PRIDE MONTH CELEBRATIONS INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO ARE LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, QUEER, QUESTIONING, TWO SPIRIT, PANSEXUAL, ASEXUAL, GENDER FLUID, NON-BINARY, INTERSEX AS WELL AS HETEROSEXUAL AND CISGENDER ALLIES. AND WHEREAS PRIDE MONTH IS A TIME TO REMEMBER THE SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION, SOCIAL STIGMA AND OTHER CHALLENGES OF THE LGBTQIA PEOPLE FACE AND TO REJOICE AND TRIUMPHS AS WE LOOK FOR FULL EQUALITY.
PRIDE MONTH CELEBRATES THE LGBTQIA PEOPLE AND AGAINST DISCRIMINATION AND INJUSTICE WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO IS STRENGTHENED AND ENRICHED BY THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE LGBTQIA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY REJECTS ANY DISCRIMINATION TO VALUES POLICIES AND PRACTICES AND
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WHEREAS THE CITY HAS MADE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION OF ALL GROUPS A PRIORITY AND SUPPORTS A CONTINUED WORK OF THE CITIES DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVE COMMISSION TO RAISE AWARENESS AND PROMOTE A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES ALL OF ITS CITIZENS. NOW THEREFORE, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE, 2022, AS PRIDE MONTH IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. THE CITY MAKES THIS PROCLAMATION TO CELEBRATE LGBTQIA PEOPLE AND AFFIRM THE CITIES COMMITMENT TO PROTECT AND SERVE EVERYONE THAT RESIDES IN, WORKS IN OR VISIT THE CITY OF HUTTO WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION. AND ITS BELIEF IN THE DIGNITY, EQUALITY AND THE RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE.[APPLAUSE] >> WOULD PUT THIS TOGETHER WE DECIDED THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE RIGHT NOW, ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE WHO THEY LOVE. AND WITH THAT THAT WOULD BE
FITTING RIGHT NOW TODAY. >> VERY GOOD.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU GUYS.
[7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]
>> NEXT, THAT BRINGS US TO CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS.
7.1, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE ACTUALLY. AS A PROUD MOTHER OF A GAY SON, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE THAT PROCLAMATION TODAY.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR IS TO ROSE MCMILLAN, WHO SERVED TIRELESSLY IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND SHE IS LEAVING US, AND SHE WILL DEEPLY BE MISSED. AND HER HUSBAND, TROY MCMILLAN, WHO SERVED THE CITY IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WHO SPENT A LIFETIME SPREADING MULCH IN 100 DEGREE TEMPERATURES AT HUTTO LAKE PARK. I JUST WANTED TO SEND OUR
COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? >> I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS SAID BY THE CITY MANAGER, BLACK FAMILY OF HUTTO EVENT WILL BE AT THE PARK ACTUALLY GOING TO KICK OFF WITH A MARCH, SO I KNOW MYSELF AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND AND IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY.
I BELIEVE THE D&I HAD REACHED ALSO HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP. IT WILL BE A REALLY BIG EVENT I THINK A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO IT AND THEY REALLY DID A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO USE ALL THE AVENUES TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE EVENT IS GOING ON SINCE EVERYONE ISN'T AS ACTIVE ON FACEBOOK SO THESE A LOT OF OTHER AVENUES TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. THE CITY OF HUTTO IS DOING THEIR DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE ON THE 18TH.
I BELIEVE TICKETS ARE STILL AVAILABLE AND THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCES DOING THEIR ANNUAL GIRLS NIGHT OUT.
ON JUNE 24, THIS IS A VIP EVENT.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME TICKETS AVAILABLE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY. BUT THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE, THEY RAISE FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BY DOING DIFFERENT EVENTS AND ALL OF THOSE FUNDS RAISED GO BACK TO SCHOLARSHIPS FOR HUTTO STUDENTS IN THE ISC. IT'S A GREAT CAUSE AND DOES A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HELPS EVERYBODY
GET OUT A LITTLE BIT. >> THANK YOU.
ANY OF THE COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? MOVE ON TO 7.2, CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.
>> I GUESS I WILL GO. I AM THE NEW LIAISON FOR THE PROX ADVISORY BOARD. I ATTENDED MY FIRST MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY, AND IT WAS GREAT.
WE TALKED BUDGET NUMBERS OF COURSE AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PARK LAND DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THE, IN LIEU OF LAND FEE THAT THEY ARE WANTING TO CHANGE SO THAT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION.
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AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND ALSO ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT NEXT SATURDAY, IS THE CHRIS KELLY 5K AT FRITZ PARK. IT IS AT 8:30 A.M., GET UP BEFORE IT GETS TOO HOT AND EXERCISE.I WILL BE THERE AND HOPEFULLY I CAN RUN BUT IF YOU WANT TO, PARTICIPATE IN THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON NEXT
>> I WALKED IT LAST YEAR. [LAUGHTER]
>> LIAISON REPORTS? HEARING NONE, WE ARE MOVING ON
[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
TO PUBLIC COMMENT. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.WE ARE MOVING ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL 9.3 AND MOVE IT TO JULY 7. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL MOVE ON.
TONIGHT ITEMS UP FOR CONSIDERATION 9.1 39.5.
>> I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 19, I BELIEVE THERE ARE COMMENTS MADE YOU ON 14 ÃONE THAT ARE NOT IN NOT IN THE MINUTES. OKAY WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT
AND NOT HAVE MAY 19 APPROVED? >> LET'S JUST NOT APPROVE MAY 19 UNTIL WE WE CAN GET THE COMMENTS INTO THE MINUTES FOR
THAT. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO BE
MADE? >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO PULL THE MINUTES OF MAY 19 FROM CONSENT AGENDA.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROVE THE REST OF 9.1, 9.2, 9.4 AND
9.5? >> I AM GOOD WITH THE REST OF
MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON APPROVING 9.1 IS PRESENTED WITH THE MINUTES FROM MAY 19, 2022 TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNSEL.
ITEM 9.2 AS PRESENTED, 9.4 AND 9.5 AS PRESENTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[10.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]
NEXT BRINGS US TO ITEM 10. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVAL TO THE CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA GOVERNMENTAPPOINTMENTS. >> WE DID HAVE A RESIGNATION FROM D&I FOR PERSONAL REASONS. THERE TWO SEATS AVAILABLE.
>> ALSO WE -- THE MAYOR SAID WE WOULD GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TIMING FOR SOME OF THE AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS WHEN THEY NEED TO BE MET SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A DECISION ON WHO COULD SERVE IN THAT.
STILL WAITING TO GET THE DATA. SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT NEXT
TIME. >> DID WE EVER BRING THAT TO COUNSEL FOR THE DATES AND READJUSTMENT?
>> WE WILL BRING THAT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING.
>> OKAY. >> I THINK THE QUESTION WAS
LIKE WHEN DOES AIR QUALITY -- >> I UNDERSTAND.
>> I BELIEVE THE NEXT IS IN SEPTEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. >> IF IT'S QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING I CAN DO IT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
>> EXCUSE ME MR. MAYOR. I COULDN'T HEAR THE ORIGINAL
QUESTION. >> I WAS ASKING WHEN SOME OF THE AREA GOVERNMENT MEETINGS ARE OCCURRING.
SO THAT WE COULD DECIDE WHO CAN BEST REPRESENT THE CITY FEELS BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY ARE OCCURRING. THANK YOU SIR.
>> I GUESS MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS HAVE ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS PAGE, JUST WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREA GOVERNMENT GROUPS ARE THAT WE ARE ALL PART OF.
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ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 10.1? >> ALSO THE PARK ADVISORY BOARDS, ROSE IS NOT SEEKING REASSIGNMENT.
WE DO HAVE THREE AVAILABLE SPOTS ON THE PROX ADVISORY BOARD. SO, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED DEFINITELY APPLY TO ITY.
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE REAPPOINTED TO P&Z AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'VE MET YET.
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE, THEIR TERM EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE WILL NEED TO APPOINT THEM IN
[10.2. Status update presentation along with discussion and possible action related to the 2022 Water and Wastewater Master Plan Updates. (Wade Benton)]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10.2.STATUS UPDATE PRESENTATION ALONG WITH DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE 2022 WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATES. GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO YOU TONIGHT. GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER R PLAN EFFORTS.
WITH ME TONIGHT, HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM -- WE WILL DO A COMBINED PRESENTATION, I WILL LET THEM TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING TO DATE.
AND THEN, WILL OF OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS HOPEFULLY AT THE END IF THAT'S OKAY. BUT I DID WANT TO KIND OF TEA UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE WORK. I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. AT LEAST THE GRAPHICS.
THE ACTIVITY, DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN HUTTO. I THINK WE ARE ON TRACK FOR A SIMILE OR THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AND ACTIVITIES. AS WE SAW AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, REQUESTS FOR SERVICE, WE START IMPLEMENTING A PROCESS TO TRY AND EVALUATE THOSE REQUESTS. AND SO, BASICALLY WE WERE REQUESTING THOSE DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION RELATED TO WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO AND WHEN, SO THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK KIND OF AT LONG-TERM VIEW OF WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE CITY, WHAT MAKES SENSE MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT COME ONLINE.AND SO, BACK IN THE FALL PROBABLY LATE OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, WE STARTED IMPLEMENT AND WILL CALL THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST OR, A LARGE NUMBER OF THEM CAME IN 50 SOMETHING RIGHT NOW. SINCE THEN.
THOSE ARE BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER.
SOME OME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS FALL WITHIN AREAS THAT ARE JUST WASTEWATER SERVICE. AND THEN ANOTHER WATER SERVICE PROVIDER PROVIDE SERVICE TO THEM, NUMBER OF THEM ARE BOTH INSIDE THE CITY WATER, SERVICE AREA AND WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA.AND SO, DCS WAS HELPING US EARLY UNDERVALUING THOSE PROVIDING INPUT, ENGAGING WITH DEVELOPER ENGINEERS AND MARCH, COUNSEL DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FULL-SCALE UPDATE OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLANS. AND SO WE HAD BRUCE NICHOLS ON BOARD TO DO WATER AND GO AROUND THE WASTEWATER.
AS PART OF THAT SCOPE, THAT INCLUDED SOME SHORT-TERM EFFORTS TO REALLY DIG AND AGAIN, TO THESE REQUESTS AND CONFIRM WHAT WAS NEEDED, WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS WERE FROM THE SYSTEM STANDPOINT, SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE COULD RESPOND TO THOSE FOLKS AND HAVE THEM, PROCEED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECT THE CITIES INTEREST.
AND SO, I'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION BUT I WANTED TO DIG IN NOW AND HAVE THEM COME UP TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE ON THE WATER SIDE, CAN TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC SCHEDULES AND THEN
TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE. >> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DAVE CHRISTIANSEN, I'M A WATER WASTEWATER ENGINEER IN THE OFFICE AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE CURRENT WATER MASTER PLAN EFFORT. WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE IS AN OVERALL SCHEDULE OF THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE LINES HERE.
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BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.WHAT WE ARE SHOWING IS A SCHEDULE ALONG THE TOP THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE TIMELINE AND THEN THE BLUE BARS REPRESENT WHEN WE ARE PLANNING A WORK IN EACH INDIVIDUAL.
I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL, TASK A IS A SHORT-TERM WATER SYSTEM ANALYSIS WHICH INCLUDED THE SER THAT WE'D MENTIONED AND HE WILL DISCUSS IN DETAIL MORE LATER.
AND THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM TO COME TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY. TASK B IS AN UPDATE TO WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS. LOOKING UPDATED GROWTH PROJECTIONS FOR THE FIVE YEAR, 10 YEAR AND 25 YEAR PLAYING PERIODS. AND DEVELOPING ONE DEMAND PROJECTIONS TO FIT THOSE. TASK C IS A COMPLETE REBUILD AND CALIBRATION OF THE HYDRAULIC MODEL OF THE WATER SYSTEM. TASK D INVOLVES HYDRAULIC ANALYSES, USING THE HYDRAULIC MODEL AND DEVELOPING A CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE FIVE YEAR, 10 YEAR AND 25 YEAR PLANNING PERIODS. AND THEN DISRUPT EVERYTHING TO A MASTER PLAN AND PRESENTATION THAT WILL COME BACK TO Y'ALL WITH TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON JUST A FEW KEY ITEMS. AS PART OF THE EFFORT SO FAR. FIRST BEING THAT EXISTING SYSTEM ANALYSIS. AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD BUILT AND CALIBRATED NEW HYDRAULIC MODEL OF THE SYSTEM, THIS WAS A SCOPE ITEM THAT WE EXPEDITED SO THAT WE COULD USE SOME MODEL RESULTS AS PART OF OUR REVIEW OF THOSE SER.
WE ARE ABLE TO PUT UP SOME PRESS RECORDERS AND BUILD AND CALIBRATE THE MODEL IN ABOUT A MONTH IT WAS WE HAD A CALIBRATED MODEL WE CONDUCTED EXISTING SYSTEM HYDRAULIC MODELING SO WE DID A 24 HOUR WHAT'S CALLED AN EXTENDED PERIOD SIMULATION OF AN EXISTING MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND SCENARIO SO WE CAN SEE HOW THE SYSTEM REACTS.
OVER THE COURSE OF A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
AND WE ALSO DID SOME AVAILABLE FIRE FLOW ANALYSIS WHICH IS THE MAP THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT.
AREAS IN RED SHOW SOME AREAS THAT HAVE SOME RELATIVELY LOWER AVAILABLE FIRE FLOW AND THAT'S MOSTLY DUE TO SMALLER PIPELINES IN THOSE AREAS, YOU JUST CANNOT PUSH AS MUCH WATER TO THE SMALLER PIPELINE. AND THEN AREAS IN BLUE SHOW PARTS OF THE SYSTEM THAT HAVE A LOT OF AVAILABLE FIRE FLOW.
AND AS I MENTIONED, WE ACTUALLY USE THESE FIRE FLOATERS RESULTS IN OUR EVALUATION OF THE 14 SERS THAT FELL WITHIN THE WATER SERVICE AREA. AS PART OF THE SER APPLICATION, DEVELOPERS REQUIRED TO POST A REQUESTED FIRE FLOW FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, WE CAN'T COMPARE MODEL RESULTS TO THE REQUESTED FIRE FLOW AND FOR ALL 14 SERS ON THE WATER SIDE THE SYSTEM IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THE DEVELOPERS WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING. SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
WE ALSO EVALUATED THE EXISTING SYSTEM AGAINST TCQ MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS PAYROLL IS COMPLIANT WE DO WANT TO TOUCH ON CAPACITY. THE TOP NUMBER BEING THE CURRENT AVAILABLE PRODUCTION CAPACITY, THE 5.05.
THEN COMPARING THAT TO THE CURRENT TCQ MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, A 3.79. THAT IS WITH EXISTING CUSTOMERS THAT ARE USING WATER TODAY. WITH ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT WE KNOW IS KIND OF GOING ON IN THE AREA, WE ARE PREDICTING A NEAR TORRENT SHORTFALL IN TERMS OF PRODUCTION CAPACITY BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW THE CITY STAFF IS ACTIVELY INVESTIGATING SOME SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS TO WORK AROUND THAT ISSUE WHILE MORE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS ARE BEING BUILT.
NEXT, WE WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THESE.
WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THE GRAPH WE ARE SHOWING HERE WAS OUR FIRST ATTEMPT AT DEVELOPING GROWTH PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE TABLE IN GREEN THERE.
IT JUST PUTS NUMBERS TO THE GREEN LINE ON THE GRAPH.
WHAT WENT INTO THIS INITIAL STAB AT PROJECTIONS LOOKING AT HISTORICAL GROWTH RATES AND ALSO THOSE INCREASES IN BUILDING PERMITS, IT SHOWED ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE.
WE WERE USING PRETTY AGGRESSIVE GROWTH IN THE TABLE THERE.
THE COLUMN ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT.
SHOWS ANNUAL GROWTH RATES, 20 PERCENT, 15 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT AND EVEN SEVEN PERCENT OR NOT AT ALL TYPICAL.
SO, WE ARE USING SOME PRETTY HIGH GROWTH RATES THERE.
AS WE GOT INTO MORE AND TALK TO CITY PLANNING STAFF, DUCKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE DEVELOPER TAKEDOWN RATES THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY PLANNING, WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF
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THE NEAR-TERM GROWTH PROJECTIONS COULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THIS BLUE LINE HERE.AND WE HAVE VETTED THESE STAFF NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL SO OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW 100 PERCENT, BUT THERE IS THE FEELING THAT THESE PROPOSED TAKEDOWN RATES ARE PRETTY REALISTIC AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED THUS FAR.
SO AS I SAID, WHERE STILL THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING EXACTLY WHAT OUR FINALIZE GROWTH PROJECTIONS WILL BE.
THEY MAY END UP LOOKING LITTLE BIT MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THIS BLUE LINE IN THE NEAR TERM THE FIRST FIVE OR 10 YEARS.
AND THEN TAPER OFF FOLLOWING THE GREEN LINE IN THE LONG TERM. FINALLY, I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON, SORRY, GO BACK. THEY WANT TO TOUCH ON THE IMPACT OF USING, FOLLOWING MORE THE BLUE LINE RATHER THAN FOLLOWING THE GREEN LINE, WHICH HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS GROWTH IN THE NEAR TERM, OBVIOUSLY MORE GROWTH IN THE NEAR TERM MEANS MORE WATER DEMAND IN THE NEAR TERM, IT MEANS MORE CIP IMPROVEMENTS. I DO WANT TO GET ON THE RADAR THAT WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR WITH THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT THERE MAY BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT WITH NEAR-TERM CIP PROJECTS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS PLAN OF GROWTH. NOW, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, GETTING INTO THE PATH FORWARD ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE Y'ALL WITH THE ROADMAP SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THIS GROWTH THAT WE SEE GOING ON. AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? FIRST STEP IS TO DETERMINE WHERE THE SHORT-TERM WATER SUPPLIES COMING FROM AS I SAID, CITY STAFF IS ACTIVELY INVESTIGATING THAT RIGHT NOW. ONCE WE HAVE THAT AND WE KNOW WHERE THE WATER IS COMING FROM THE NEXT STEP IS TO DETERMINE HOW TO GET THE WATER FROM THE SUPPLY SOURCES TO THE PARTS OF THE SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE SEEING THE MOST GROWTH.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT OVERALL PLAN, IT'S REALLY PHASING IN THE DIFFERENT PROJECT INTO OUR FIVE YEAR CIP OR TENURE CIP AND 25 YOUR CIP. IN A STUNNING PLANNING LEVEL COST TO THOSE THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND REALLY GET THE BALL ROLLING ON SOME OF THOSE CRITICAL NEAR-TERM PROJECTS. WITH THAT, I'LL HANDED OVER TO IAN FROM GARVER TO TALK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS IAN WITH GARVER, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.
A PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT AND DRAWN BY DOCTOR JULIE FAR ON THE TEAM, SHE'S BEEN THE PRINCIPAL MODEL INVESTIGATOR FOR THE PROJECT. I APPRECIATE HAVING HER IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN HARD AT WORK AT THIS MASTER PLAN NOW SINCE MARCH.
WHEN WE GOT THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
OUR PROJECT WAS BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES.
PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2. PHASE 1 FOR US, OUR PROJECT WAS STRUCTURED TO FULLY THEN THE WATER SIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN.
OUR PHASE 1 FOCUSED ON REALLY HAD TO BUILD THE NETWORK MODEL FROM SCRATCH. RINGING IN ALL THE PIPELINES AND MANHOLES AND DETAILS AND SIZES AND EVERYTHING.
AND INCORPORATING THOSE AND DIGITIZING THOSE INTO A NETWORK MODEL THAT CAN RUN BOTH STEADY-STATE AND LIKE DAVE MENTIONED, THOSE EXTENDED. SIMULATIONS WITH TIME THAT CAN REFLECT STORMS PASSING AND SPIKES AND INFILTRATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT CAN HELP US REALLY TAILOR AND CALIBRATE THE MODEL TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE BEING SEEN IN THE SYSTEM. THAT WAS A QUICK BURN ON THAT.
WE DID THAT ABOUT TWO MONTHS. KNOWING THAT THE PRIORITY WAS TO HAVE A TOOL IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO BUY WITH THE BACKLOG OF EXTENSION REQUEST THE CITY HAD IN FRONT OF THEM, THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AND ALL OF YOU PROBABLY HEARD A LOT FROM DEVELOPERS IN THAT TIME PERIOD ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF TURNING THIS AROUND AND THAT REALLY WAS THE FOCUS OF THE FIRST TWO MONTHS. WE REACHED THAT GOAL IN APRIL.
AT THE END OF APRIL IMMEDIATELY SHIFTED GEARS AND STARTED TO PROCESS THE SERS. THE WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA IS SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER THAN THE WATER SERVICE AREA SO WE HAD ABOUT DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF SERS TO PROCESS.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT THROUGHOUT THE MONTHS OF MAY AND JUNE. FROM THAT POINT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE OVERALL MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.
TO ACHIEVE THE SAME KIND OF CIP OBJECTIVES SIMILAR STRUCTURE TO A DAVE DESCRIBED. ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF OUR STUDY THAT IS ALSO DIFFERENT IS THAT WE ARE DOING A FOCUSED EVALUATION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES.
TO EVALUATE THE CAPACITY OF THOSE FACILITIES, WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT IN THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH
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CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH THE CITY IS SEEING. SO AS DESCRIBED, THE INITIAL TWO MONTH EFFORT MARCH AND APRIL, WE ARE FOCUSED ON BUILDING SER MODEL. WE ARE MODEL ABOUT HUNDRED 38,000 GRAVITY MEANS 550 MANHOLES, FROM DIAMETER RANGE OF 10 TO 42 INCHES. ABOUT 51,000 FEET OF FORCE MEANS A PRESSURIZED PART OF THE SYSTEM AND 10 LIFT STATIONS IN THE SYSTEM AND AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF, PARTICULARLY PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, WERE ABLE TO LOCATE AND DIGITIZE A STACK OF ABOUT 53 SETS OF RECORD DRAWINGS SORT OF IN THE PAPER ROLLS THAT WE ROLLED OUT AND SCANNED AND HAD AND READ THAT WAS QUITE A BIG EFFORT AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF AND GETTING THAT DONE.YOU CAN SEE JUST A FEW IMAGES OF THE COMPLETED NETWORK MODEL THERE ON THE TOP RIGHT. AS WELL AS SOME OF THE CALIBRATION DATA THAT WAS USED TO ENSURE THE ACCURACY OF THAT MODEL. HERE IS A DEPICTION OF THE SERVICE AREAS. THE LIGHT COLORED, TAN COLORED SERVICE AREA DRAINS GENERALLY TO THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER PLANT, IT'S A SMALL WASTEWATER PLANT NEAR HIGHWAY 79.
CLOSE TO THE CENTER OF TOWN. THE LARGER SORT OF RUST COLORED AREA DRAINS TO THE SOUTH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, SELF PLANT IS ON SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER SITE.
AND IS GENERALLY THE PLANT THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATED MORE OF THE FLOW OF OVERTIME AS A HIGHER PERMIT LIMIT ETC. SO WE HAVE THOSE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH PLANT, ARE IN NEED OF EXPANSION RELATIVELY SOON.
AND WE DON'T SHY AWAY FROM USING THE TERM IMMEDIATELY.
A LOT OF THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE PROJECTING WILL END UP AT THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND NEED TO BE TREATED THERE. THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED INCLUDING THE MEGA SITE AND RCR SITE AND REGIONAL WASTEWATER OBLIGATIONS MAKING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE WORKING TO PLAN FOR THAT FLOW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BOTH CONVEY IT EFFECTIVELY TO THE TREATMENT PLANT SITE AND ONCE THERE, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TREATMENT PROCESS CAPACITY TO PROCESS IT BEFORE RETURNS TO -- CREEK. THAT ACCOUNT AS WELL FOR THE COLLECTION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. OUR GENERAL GOAL WITH ASSIGNING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OR PARALLEL EXISTING INTERCEPTORS. WE IDENTIFY NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED, IN THE FORM OF GRAVITY MEANS, WE ARE LOOKING AT KIND OF FORECAST GROWTH AND WHAT MIGHT COME ALONG EVEN IF IT IS NOT A PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED DEVELOPMENT OR SER, TO MAKE SURE IF YOU PUT A PIPE IN THE GROUND IT WILL BE BIG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE FLOW.
WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND CARRIED OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH THE BIGGER PIPE, 10 OR 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
WE ARE TRYING TO POLISH ALL CRISTOBOL BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL GROWTH.
AND THEN ANOTHER GOAL IS MORE OPERATIONAL OF NATURE.
THE CITY DOES RELINE A LOT OF LIFT STATIONS WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY SEWAGE PUMPING STATIONS.
THAT COMBINED INTO SINGLE PRESSURIZED MEANS THAT FEED, GO TO THE TREATMENT PLANTS THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF ENERGY AND MAINTENANCE TO KEEP THE LIFT STATIONS IN EFFECTIVE OPERATION AND WERE TRYING TO DO WITH SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS IS TO RELIEVE THOSE LIFT STATIONS WITH GRAVITY INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH THAT WE CAN TAKE THEM OFF LINE AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON A PRESSURIZED SYSTEM TO MOVE FLOW TO THE PLANTS.ND THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS, IT'S REALLY WITH AN EYE ON INTERNAL COLLECTION SYSTEM OPERATIONS AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
HERE IS A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE EXISTING AND PROJECTED FLOW THAT IS GOING TO BE ARRIVING AT THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO DAVE'S FLOW PROJECTIONS HERE.
THOSE PROTECTIONS WERE DEVELOPED FOR THE WATER SERVICE AREA. WE'VE HAD TO EXTRAPOLATE THOSE OUT TO THE LARGER WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA.O OUR FLOWS ARE LITTLE BIT HIGHER. AND THEN ROUTE THEM TO THE DIFFERENT PLANTS.HAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THIS IS CURRENTLY A 2 MILLION GALLON PER DAY MGD PLANT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE HISTORICAL DATA THERE WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY THE SCATTERPLOT WITH THE THREE MONTH TRENDING AVERAGE OR TRENDING TOWARDS THAT PERMIT LIMIT, AND HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND THEN, LOOKING FORWARD YOU CAN SEE THAT LINE BASICALLY TAKES WERE AT AND PRODUCTION FORWARD BASED ON THE DEVELOPER TAKEDOWN SCHEDULES THAT WE RECEIVED.
THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE EXPANSION AND GROWTH THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO SEE, EXPANSION AND FLOW BASED ON THE SCHEDULES. THE THREE HORIZONTAL LINES THAT YOU SEE, THE BAR AT TWO MGD THAT THE CURRENT PLANT
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CAPACITY. THOSE OTHER TWO LINES BELOW IT ARE REGULATORY TRIGGER LINES. THOSE ARE THE 75 PERCENT AND 90 PERCENT LINES THAT CORRESPOND TO THAT 2 MGD CAPACITY.THOSE TRIGGERS ARE WRITTEN INTO THE STATE REGULATORY CODE BY THE TCEQ. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED BEGIN DESIGN FOR 75 PERCENT THEN BEGAN CONSTRUCTION AT 90 PERCENT.
THOSE ARE SORT OF THE TIMING TRIGGERS.
GIVEN THE GROWTH RATES HERE, WE ARE EXPECTING THAT THIS PLANT WILL BE ACHIEVING THE 90 PERCENT CONSTRUCTION LEVEL TRIGGER BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, 2022.
AND SO, WE WILL BE NEEDING TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY WITH DESIGN OF THE PLANT IN ORDER TO MOVE TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND IN ORDER TO BRIDGE THE GAP, IF NEEDED, THERE ARE TEMPORARY PACKAGE OPTIONS THAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN AND DEPLOYED AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS TO HELP BRIDGE THE CAPACITY GAP. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE COUNSEL AWARE OF THE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A SIMILAR GRAPHIC, CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU CAN SEE SMALLER SERVICE AREA, LESS FLOWS GOING TO BE ROUTED TO THIS PLANT BUT WE ARE STILL AGAIN, APPROACHING THE CAPACITY TRIGGERS AT THAT PLANT. A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OUT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AROUND THE END OF 2022 FOR THE 75 PERCENT DESIGN TRIGGER. AND THE END OF 2023 FOR THE 90 PERCENT CONSTRUCTION TRIGGER. NOT QUITE AS URGENT BUT STILL KIND OF IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, SOMETHING THAT WILL NEED TO BE TACKLED HERE PRETTY SOON.
WE ARE A COUPLE OF KEY PROJECTS HERE IN THE GRAVITY INTERCEPTOR WORLD. THIS IS OUT IN THE SYSTEM.
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE INTENDED TO CAPTURE AND CONVEY FLOW THAT ARE OTHERWISE GOING TO THOSE PRESSURIZED LIFT STATIONS AS MENTIONED. ESPECIALLY THE BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR GOES THERE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN THAT IS KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAINAGE AREA.
-- THE COTTONWOOD CREEK INTERCEPTOR IS MORE CAPACITY ORIENTED AND ALSO A RELIEF LINE FOR THE EMORY CROSSING, AND LIFT STATIONS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF GROWTH. THAT GRACE THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND THEN THERE'S CURRENTLY A PROJECT GOING IN THERE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER FLOW AM CENTRAL IN THE SOUTH. AGAIN, STILL DIRECTING A LOT OF THAT FLOW DOWN TO THE SOUTH OF THE TIME.
THEN OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE.
OUR GENERAL PATH FORWARD IS FINISHING SENDING THE SER DEVELOPERS. WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WADE HAS DESCRIBED. THERE ARE MORE SLIDES COMING UP AFTER THIS TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
FINALIZING OUR POPULATION AND FLOW PROJECTIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING OUTSIDE SO THAT EXTRAPOLATION PROCESS GOING OUTSIDE THE WATER SERVICE AREA THE WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA.
OMPLETED THE WASTEWATER FACILITY EVALUATIONS.
DEVELOPING A DETAILED PATH FORWARD FOR EACH OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL PROCESSES WHERE THE BOTTLENECKS EXIST.
AND FINDING THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE AND SHORTEST ROUTES TO EXPANSIONS THAT WE CAN.
IDENTIFYING THE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AS MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. AND THEN, AGAIN, DEVELOP THE FINAL PRODUCT IS DEVELOPING THE CAPITOL PROJECTS LIST.
IN TERMS OF COST AND TIMING. I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO WADE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE SER PROCESS.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF MORE SLIDES.
I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE AND KIND OF COME BACK, IF I CAN.
THIS GRAPHIC UP ON THE MAP HERE, JUST KIND OF GRAPHICALLY GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF WAR THESE REQUESTS ARE.
THE CITY, THE BLUE, YELLOW AND WHITE, THE WHITE IS HARD TO SEE BUT THESE ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY LIMITS.
AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE AREAS, AND AGAIN THIS PROCESS STARTED THE END OF LAST YEAR. AND NUMBER OF THESE PROJECTS AS MENTIONED THE ANALYSIS AND STAFF, AND CONSULTANTS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS IS LOOKING AT THE LONG-TERM NEEDS IN THESE AREAS AND SO, WHAT WE'VE BEGUN ISSUING OUT IS SOME REQUEST BASICALLY -- WE HAD BASICALLY, 40 OF THESE BACK IN MARCH. WE HAD ANOTHER 10 OR SO COME SO
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WE'VE HAD 50 PLUS THAT HAVE COME IN THE DOOR.AND SO, WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL PROVIDE IS BASICALLY A DETAIL OF THEIR PROJECT, HOW MANY UNITS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT THE FLOW WOULD BE BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, THEN OUR DESIGN, OUR TEAMS WILL EVALUATE AND IDENTIFY IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED. AND THE RESPONSES THAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEND OUT NOW, TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS BASICALLY IDENTIFIES, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND THEN, ARE THERE ANY OVERSIZED REQUIREMENTS OR CITY PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS.
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS, TO SERVE YOUR PROPERTY.
FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT THE ONLY CONNECTION THEY HAVE IS TO INTERCEPTOR PROJECT THAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED. AND SO THAT IS A CONDITION OF THEIR APPROVAL. THE CITY PROJECT AS WELL AS THEIR IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE IN PLACE.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION IF THEY WANT TO TRY AND FUND SOME OF THOSE AHEAD OF TIME OR WE CAN WORK OUT SOME OF THOSE ARRANGEMENTS IN TERMS OF IMPACT FEE IMPLICATIONS.
BUT WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING THIS FOLKS IS, HERE'S WHAT'S NEEDED TO SERVE YOUR DEVELOPMENT WITH, FROM THE LENS OF THIS IS WHAT THE CITY NEEDS LONG-TERM, AND THIS IS HOW YOU WILL HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROJECT. AND SO, WE HAVE BASICALLY, THIS IS -- THE DESIGN, THE CONSULTANT TEAMS PROVIDED INPUT ON ALL OF THE SERS. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF SENDING LETTERS OUT. WE'VE HAD THE FIRST BATCH OUT WE HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER GOING OUT THIS WEEKEND NEXT.
BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE PENDING RESPONSES BACK TO THE CONSULTANTS.
AND SO, FOR QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO REEMPHASIZE JUST THE FACT THAT ON THESE REQUESTS AND THE WORK THAT THESE CONSULTANTS ARE DOING, THE LONG-TERM GOAL HERE, AND WE GET OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WE HAVE DRAFT AND FINAL FOR THE PLAN IS TO HAVE AN ACTIONABLE CAP LIST MOVING FORWARD.
NUNNALLY NEXT YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO YOU AS A COUNSELOR CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY, IDENTIFY THOSE FUNDING LEVELS AND DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. I'LL STOP AND OPEN UP FOR ANY
QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL?
>> WHEN I SAW SOME OF YOUR PLANS, LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF WILL BE ARRIVING AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO, ONE OF MY THINGS IS, WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE THE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE AND STARTED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
SO IS THERE NY WAY AT A MINIMUM THAT WE CAN GET THAT ON THE BOARD, WE JUST SAW THE FEDERAL THREE-QUARTER PERCENT RAISE ON INTEREST RATES YESTERDAY. WE'VE ALREADY INCREASED THE COST, IT WILL INCREASE AGAIN PROBABLY EITHER NEXT MONTH OR IN SEPTEMBER SO WE NEED TO MOVE NOW.
ON THE FUNDING SIDE EVEN IF WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE FINAL THINGS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AT LEAST FOR THE SHORT TERM THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GET ONLINE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR OF
WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH FINANCE, TO IDENTIFY KIND OF THAT HOT LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE CAN GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY ON. WHETHER IT IS PRELIMINARY PLANNING WORK, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, COUPLE ON THE LIST ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE AND GETTING CLOSE TO CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH US FORWARD QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET CIP FOR NEXT YEAR, WE ARE NOT WAITING UNTIL NOVEMBER TO DEVELOP THAT. WE ALREADY KIND OF LOOKING AHEAD ON THE ONES I WANT TO CALL THEM NO-BRAINERS BUT THE ONES THAT WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THOSE IN THERE. AND TRYING TO DETERMINE THE COST AS BEST WE CAN AND THE TIMING OF THOSE, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YES, SIR? >> MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WILL ALSO TALK WITH A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, ONE SUGGESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK MADE TO AVOID RATE INCREASES IF POSSIBLE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE SEVERAL.
SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF MORE BASED ON TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND THE OTHER MORE KIND OF IN -- IAN'S PRESENTATION.
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BASED ON THIS 23RD OF WAR IS A PROJECTION IF WE MAKE ABSOLUTELY ZERO IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT WITH THE GRAPHIC SHOWING? IF WE DON'T TOUCH THE SYSTEM ESSENTIALLY, 2034 IS WHERE IT WILL ESSENTIALLY MAX OUT, BASEDON THE GROWTH. >> WHERE THE BLUE AND GREEN LINES MEET. I THINK IT IS MORE THE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED GROWTH. THEY ALREADY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AND SERS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, IT'S KIND OF WHERE THE BLUE LINE STOPS. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE ARE MAKING GENERALIZING GROWTH RATE WHICH YOU SEE IN THE GREEN TABLE THERE. IT WILL CONTINUE PAST BUT ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS THE SERS ARE NOT ALL APPROVED BUT A SIGNIFICANT OF THE BLUE GROWTH IS ALREADY.
>> AGGRESSIVE PROJECTED AND THESE IMPROVED SERS ALREADY BUILT-IN, EVEN WITH THE IMPROVED SERS AND WITH RESULTS OF 2034, I KNOW WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE IN A FEW YEARS AND GROWTH RATE IN ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT WATERS LOOKING LIKE FOR NOW.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANT TO KIND OF REEMPHASIZE HERE IS THAT THIS DRAFT, WE STILL TRYING TO FINALIZE THESE BUT THE GREENLINE IS ESPECIALLY EVEN IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, IS REALLY AGGRESSIVE, EVEN THOUGH UNDER NORMAL TERMS. YOU KNOW, 20 PERCENT, 15 PERCENT GROWTH ISN'T REALLY NORMAL. IT'S BEEN, NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEWS RECENTLY A COUPLE OF NEARBY COMMUNITIES WERE -- IT IS HAPPENING, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A LONG-TERM STANDPOINT AND WITH DAVE'S EXPERIENCE AND OTHERS, THAT IS A FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE RATE AND SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS A KNOWLEDGE WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THE DOOR AND TRYING TO BALANCE THAT WITH SOME OF THESE MEASURES GROWTH AND TRYING TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A BLENDED PRODUCTION RATE THAT WE FEEL IS AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN MAKE IT AT THIS POINT.
>> AND THEN THIS IS JUST TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HUTTO CITY WATER, CORRECT? BECAUSE NOT A LOT BUT THERE'S A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF HUTTO RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT ON HUTTO CITY WATER, WHICH IS WHY WE SEE WITH WASTEWATER BECAUSE MOST ARE ON WASTEWATER, BUT WE HAVE MANVILLE AND JONAS APPLY WATER.
SO THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TO HUTTO CITY WATER.
I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP. AND THERE FOR YOUR FIRE FLOW, WHEN YOU GUYS DID THAT, WAS THAT ON A PARTICULAR DAY? OR WAS THERE METHODS THAT MADNESS?
>> WHAT WE TYPICALLY MODEL FOR ANALYSIS IS, LOOK AT HOW MUCH FIRE FLOW, HOW MUCH FLOW IS AVAILABLE AT EVERY POINT IN THE SYSTEM, DURING A MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND WITH THE HIGHEST DEMAND DAY WHEN EVERYONE IS WATERING THE LAWN SO THERE'S SOME CONSERVATISM BUILT IN THERE WHERE WE ARE ALREADY ASSUMING THE HIGHEST DEMAND FOR A SINGLE DAY THAT YOU SEE OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. AND THEN, AT EACH POINT IN THE SYSTEM, WE ARE MODELING HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FLOW ABOVE THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND CAN YOU GET OUT THERE BEFORE YOU DROP BELOW TCQ REQUIREMENTS IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
HOW MUCH MORE FLOW CAN YOU GET UP BEFORE YOU DROP BELOW THAT 20 PSI. THIS KIND OF WORK CREATES THE
MAP THAT YOU SEE THERE. >> AND KIND OF GOING ALONG THE LINES OF THE TCQ MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
WITH PRODUCTION AT 3.7 -- I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER SO IS CARL STERN, LOOKS LIKE THEIR MGD IS 2.16.
IS ALREADY NOT WITHIN THE STANDARDS?
>> SORRY THAT IS CONFUSING. THE PUMP STATION CAPACITY WE ARE SHOWING THEIR, THOSE ARE DISTRIBUTION PUMPING SYSTEMS. PRODUCTION CAPACITY IS GETTING WATER FROM THE SUPPLY SOURCE, TO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. SO TO THE DISTRIBUTION PUMP STATION. I SHOULD'VE EXPLAINED THIS BETTER, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THOSE PUMP STATIONS ACTUALLY PUMP THAT WATER INTO THE NETWORK WHERE THE CUSTOMERS
AND THEN, JUST A GENERALIZED QUESTION.
IN YOUR OPINION IF WE HAVE A 16 INCH LINE, HOW MUCH MGD WOULD
THAT PUSH? >> WE TYPICALLY WILL SAY THREE AND HALF TO FOUR MGD FOR 16 INCH.
USUALLY, YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP YOUR VELOCITY ABOVE 500 PERCENT
OF THIS KIND OF THAT. >> AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. AND THEN, FOR IAN I NOTICED THE
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SAME THING, THAT THE FINAL REPORT JUST LIKE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAID OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME WHICH IS AFTER THE BUDGET CYCLE AND WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT.WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET, HE MENTIONED SOME TEMPORARY POSSIBLE PLANS, PACKAGE TREATMENTS.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT SOME OF THE TEMPORARY PACKAGES ARE? OR ALL YOUR ALREADY IN TALKS ON THOSE?
>> CERTAINLY. THE FIRST REALLY I GUESS, TIME AT WHICH WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT IS THIS WASTEWATER FACILITY EVALUATION AS PART OF THE LARGER MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.
WE ARE MAKING PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT AND WILL DISCUSS WITH STAFF TOMORROW. AND, THE NICE THING ABOUT THE SYSTEMS IS THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY LIKE MOUNTED ON AN 18 WHEELER ON A TRAILER MOUNTED TYPING AND CAN SORT OF DRIVE THEM AND SET THEM DOWN ON A PAD AND HOOK THEM UP AND THEY CAN BE USED TO TREAT FLOW. YOU DO HAVE TWO COMPETE FOR THOSE, THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY THAT EXIST OUT THERE TO BE BOOKED, PAY THE RENTAL FEE AND IT'S NOT CHEAP.
TO BE INCURRED TO BRIDGE THE GAP BUT, WASTEWATER PLANT, THE BASE WATER DOESN'T STOP FLOWING, IT KEEPS COMING TO YOU AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. ONCE THE SYSTEM IS IN PLACE.
LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION.
[LAUGHTER] >> IN THE LONGJOHNS OF COST AND I KNOW THAT YOU PUT IN GRAVITY LINES AS ABETTOR AND ENERGY-EFFICIENT OPTION, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IS THERE HUGE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE?
-- >> OVER TIME, WHEN YOU'RE PROJECTING FOR GROWTH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SURPLUS CAPACITY IN THOSE LINES. IN CASE IT DOES RAIN OR YOU EXPERIENCE BIG EVENTS. I WANT THE LINES TO BACK UP AND OF COURSE, COME OUT THE MANHOLE.
I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE MAIN DRIVER FOR THE COST DIFFERENCE.
THERE IS, YOUR CAPITAL COST UPFRONT WILL BE HIGHER BECAUSE YOU ARE INSTALLING LARGER RESEARCHER.
OPERATING EXPENSES WILL BE LOWER OVER TIME, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE ENERGY OR MAINTENANCE INVESTMENT IN THOSE LIFT STATION FACILITIES. THOSE CAN BECOME BOOKS FACILITIES, MAINTAINING PUMPS AND YOU GET A LOT OF LIKE CLOGGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAPPEN.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PERSONAL TIME THAT GO INTO GOING OUT AND CLEAN THE AND KIND OF GETTING THEM FIXED UP.
OBVIOUSLY OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE DOESN'T GO AWAY WITH A GRAVITY SYSTEM IS TO HAVE TO KEEP EVERYTHING CLEAN.
AND SO TO DO THAT PERIODIC MAINTENANCE.
THE NICE THING ABOUT GRAVITY LINES THAT YOU DO HAVE THOSE MANHOLES SO YOUR PHYSICAL ACCESS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU CAN GO IN AND CLEAN IT OUT IF NEEDED WHEREAS WITH THE PRESSURE SYSTEM, HAVE TO SORT OF GO IN AND SHUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN AND CUT OUT THE PIPE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO
MAINTAIN. >> SO UNLIKE THE SOUTH END OF HUTTO, TO THINK THE GRAVITY LINES WOULD WORK THERE? BECAUSE UNDER THE RECENTLY DID THE LAKESIDE LIFT STATION, THAT WAS A BIT OF A BEAR AND KIND OF FOR THOSE REASONS, GRAVITY AND THE WAY THINGS FLOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY WORK THERE. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION.
>> DID YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? I'M FEELING YOUR PRESENCE HERE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYONE GET THE WRONG IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD ELIMINATE EVERY LIFT STATION IN TOWN.
WE ARE WORKING IN THE WORLD TO LIVE.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND MINIMIZE THE NUMBER WE HAVE.
I WILL JUST JUMP IN AND TRY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, TELL ME IF I'M OFF-BASE BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU. THINK THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SOME TYPE OF PUMP STATION ON THE EAST SOUTHEAST SIDE OF
TOWN. >> I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE VIABILITY I GUESS. JUST WITH ISSUES THAT HAPPEN IN LAKESIDE IF THAT WAS MAYBE A GOOD CANDIDATE OR NOT.
>> THERE IS A NUMBER OF LIFT STATIONS WE ARE LOOKING AT TO ULTIMATELY ELIMINATE BY BUILDING SOME OF THESE LARGER
INTERCEPTORS. >> I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A POINT, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF, WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION WE CAN HAVE YOU KNOW THE TEMPORARY COST TIMELINE AND THEN, THE GRAVITY LINES, COST AND TIME ON THE KEEPING THE PRESSURE SYSTEM COST AND TIMELINE. SO WE CAN TRY TO COMPARE AND MAKE A HARD CHOICE AND A HARD DECISION FOR THE FUTURE.
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD. >> I HAVE WANT TO COME BACK ON THE WATER SIDE. FROM THE SIDE WHERE YOU TALK
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ABOUT ROUTE 379 AND WE HAVE AVAILABLE 505 IN GD.WHAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME WE TAKE THAT DATA, AND KIND OF OVERLAY THAT WITH REQUIREMENTS AND PROJECTED GROWTH, THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THAT TO THE MGD.
BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF GROWTH, I DON'T SEE THE INFLECTION OF WHERE WE RUN OUT OF ACTUAL WATER CAPACITY AND KIND OF LIKE WE DID ON THE OTHER WITH 75 AND 90 PERCENT. THAT IS NOT EXISTING AND WHAT I SAW FROM THE WATER PRESENTATION.
AND MAYBE I DON'T HAVE IT OR NOT BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT ALSO DICTATES WHEN WE HAVE TO EITHER DRILL A SECOND WELL OR A THIRD WELDER AND A LARGER PIPE COMING FROM -- OR BY WATER FROM ADDITIONAL YOU KNOW, WITH WHATEVER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WHERE WITH OTHER CITIES TO BRIDGE THE GAP UNTIL WE MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE A SLOT ATTEMPTED TO SHOW
THAT OR EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT. >> WE DON'T YET BECAUSE WERE SO FORMALISM WITH PRODUCTION PAY WAS ALSO FINALIZED, THEN WE CAN REALLY GET INTO THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS, WE DO HAVE SOME ROUGH NUMBERS THAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS SIMILAR IN THE NEXT YEAR TO MEANING TO PULL IN SOME MORE MAYBE SOME -- GETTING TO WORK ON EXPANDING THE WELLFIELD OBVIOUSLY IS AN OPTION.
>> SO, ON THE FIRE FLOWS. I KNOW WE HAD STOPPED SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING TO INCREASE CAPACITY AND TALKED ABOUT A YEAR AGO THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON WHEN WE FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS STILL GOING ON WAS INCREASING SOME OF THE PUMPING STATION CAPACITY, AND FIXING THE PRESSURE PLANES SO WE WOULD GET IMPROVED PRESSURE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THAT IS IN PLACE, SO THESE NUMBERS ARE REFLECT IN THE UNIMPROVED SYSTEM, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WHAT THAT WORK IS ACTUALLY
ONGOING AND -- > YES. >> SO A LOT OF THE GREEN AND YELLOW UP THEY WILL BE TURNING ORANGE.
IT WILL BE TURNING MORE GREEN AND POSSIBLY BLUE.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY. >> SOME OF IT WILL GO AWAY.
AND SOME OF THE RED WILL STAY BECAUSE WE CAN'T INTERFACE THE HIGHER PRESSURE WITH SOME OF THE OLD PIPES.
>> WE WOULD BLOW OUT ALL OF THEM.
>> A LOT OF THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THINK, WE ARE HELPING YOU GET IMPROVED A BIT. AND THEN ON THE WASTEWATER.
SO, I THINK THERE IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME CHOICE. WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH REPLACING LIFT STATIONS. SOME OF THAT IS A CHOICE.
VERSUS THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET CAPACITY.
DON'T WANT TO MAKE BAD DECISIONS AS WE IMPROVE THE CAPACITY FOR SMART TO REPLACE THE STATION AND THE PROCESS IS GREAT, LET'S DO IT. IF IT'S NICE TO HAVE WILL HAVE TO, SOME OF LIFT STATIONS MIGHT BE A 25 YEAR PLAN, NOT A FIVE
YEAR PLAN KIND OF THING. >> RIGHT, I GUESS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE THE BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR.
IT'S A MAJOR PROJECT. IT IS BEEN ON THE CITIES RADAR FOR A WHILE. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE TO PUT THAT IN AND IT WOULD LEAVE ONE OF THE MAIN, THE LARGEST LIFT STATION WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE SHORT TERM TO MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE OR SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW. WILL TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BUT LONG-TERM, THOSE BIG PROJECTS ARE ONES THAT IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO ACCELERATE SOME SEGMENTS OF THOSE OR PORTIONS OF THOSE, IF THERE DEVELOPS A COME ABOARD THAT WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
SOME OF THE ITEMS WILL RESPOND TO THESE REQUESTS COME WHERE DEFINING SOME OF THOSE KEY, EVEN LONG-TERM PROJECTS TO WHERE A DEVELOPER MIGHT DECIDE REMEMBER THERE ARE TWO OR THREE THE PARTNER UP AND DECIDE TO FUND SOME SEGMENT OF A MAJOR PROJECT IN THE LONG-TERM PLAN THAT -- IN THE SHORT TERM MAY BE A LIFT STATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
>> SAID THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET RID OF AS MANY AS WE CAN OVER TIME. BECAUSE DURING A STORM ACCRUES OUT THERE WORKING TO KEEP THOSE GOING.
-- -- >> AS FAST AS THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN YOU HAVE THOSE FACILITIES.
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OVER TIME HOPEFULLY PROJECTS WILL COME ALONG TO TAKE SOME OFTHOSE OFF-LINE. >> ON THE CAPACITY OF THE SELF STATION. I KNOW I BUGGED YOU GUYS ABOUT THE FLOW. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ROUND ROCK IS POTENTIALLY -- INTO THE CREEK IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND TCEQ SAYS EVERYTHING IS GREAT WITH WATER QUALITY.
BUT PEOPLE SMELLING AND SEEING WHAT'S IN THE WAR SAY IT'S NOT SO GREAT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THE OUTPUT THAT THEY ARE PUTTING INTO THE CREEK, AND WE ARE DOUBLING THE OUTPUT WE ARE PUTTING INTO THE SAME CREEK A FEW MILES DOWNSTREAM, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE WATER QUALITY COMING INTO THE PLANT IS ALREADY KIND OF CLOSE TO THE TCEQ LIMITS, WILL THAT LIMIT POTENTIALLY OUR ABILITY TO PUT MORE TREATED WATER INTO THE CREEK.
>> THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE SET AT THE STATE LEVEL BY TCEQ AND REGULATED BY PERMITS. THE DISCHARGE PERMITS ARE ISSUED BY TCEQ TO EACH OF THE ENTITIES.
ROUND ROCK AND THE CITY OF HUTTO INCLUDED.
ONE OF THE ISSUES HAPPENING UPSTREAM IS THAT THEY ARE, THEY DOUBLED THE CAPACITY BUT THE PLANT RATING HAS NOT CHANGED.
THERE ACTUALLY SEEING THAT INFLUENT FLOW SPIKE THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING IS ACTUALLY EXITING THE PLANT CAPACITY TO TREAT THE WATER. SO SOME OF THE WATER THAT IS NOW THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF TESTING AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS OF THE WATER QUALITY IN THE CREEK. BUT WHERE THE PLANT SIZED APPROPRIATELY LARGE ENOUGH TO TREAT THE FLOW, EVEN IT DID SPIKE UP LIKE THAT, THE WATER QUALITY ENTERING THE CREEK WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET AND FALL WITHIN THOSE LIMITS.
THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT, THE GOOD NEWS THAT FACILITIES THAT THE CITY HOLDS A PERMIT UP TO 15 1/2 MGD AT THAT LOCATION.
THE PLANT IS CURRENTLY AT TWO MGD.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IMMINENT EXPANSION GOING UP BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT MB RANGE PRETTIER STILL WITHIN THE CAPACITY TO DISCHARGE FLOW TO THE CREEK.
>> AND THEN JUST ONE MORE THING I LIKE TO SAY AS WE COME OUT OF THIS AND AS WE HAVE A PLAN IS TO IMMEDIATELY TURN AROUND AND DO A QUICK UPDATE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. I'M IMAGINING THAT THE PLAN WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AND WILL HAVE A LARGER POOL OF MONEY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT CAN BE -- SOME OF IT SHOULD BE SHOULDERED BY THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AS SOON AS WE HAVE A NEW PLAN WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE GOT THE FEES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. [INAUDIBLE] THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, IS RECENTLY FROM THE BUSINESS PARK, WE BROUGHT IN A COMPANY THAT SPECIFICALLY MAKES SOME EQUIPMENT THAT TREATS, HELPS TREAT WATER.
WANT TO KNOW IF WE ARE ALSO REACHING OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD WIN FOR US, GOOD PUBLICITY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A PARTNERSHIP.
IF THERE BUILDING THERE BUILDING IS NOT HARRIET BUT THEIR EQUIPMENT EXIST ALREADY. JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAKE IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT WITH THE ADVISORS AND STUFF FOR THEIR SOLUTIONS.
BECAUSE IT IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY BUT IF WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT WHILE WE ARE DOING IT THEN THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING WIN FOR
EVERYBODY. >> WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER IT.
WHERE WE ARE AT NOW IS WE ARE TRYING TO GET, DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND AS WE GET TO THE POINT OF LOOKING AT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, THEN THAT IS A TIME WE CAN TALK WITH THAT ENTITY AND OTHER ENTITIES TO SEE IF THEY CAN ASSIST US WITH SOME OF THE CAPACITY. I'VE ALREADY HEARD THEM TALKING NOT OFFICIALLY OR ANYTHING, BUT ABOUT SYSTEMS AND THAT SORT OF THING. THAT MIGHT BE KIND OF
INTERESTING. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR
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YOU. I KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOU AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE WORKING TO DETERMINE SHORT-TERM WATER SUPPLY SOURCES. I GUESS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND I GUESS, WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS FOR THE SHORTTERM? >> I COULD -- WE PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS IT INVOLVES, HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST TO MAKE SURE, BUT PART OF THAT INVOLVES SOME LAND ACQUISITION AND NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING, JUST IN THE OVERALL FUTURE. WE HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THERE ARE SOME IMMEDIATE NEEDS, PART OF THE REPORT IS GOING TO IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCES, BUT I'LL THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION TO JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER SO THEY'VE GIVEN YOUR INFORMATION.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK AND I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING US WATER AND WE CAN
BRIEF THAT TO YOU LATER ON. >> THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO, I TRIED TO FIND THIS INFORMATION.
HOW MANY DAILY GALS TO BE TRIBUTE TO ONE -- FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY CITY HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER THEY USE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> WASTEWATER IS 280 GALLONS PER DAY.
>> NO THAT IS PERMITTING. -- PER MINUTE.
>> NOT LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC -- 500 GALLONS? OKAY. SO THEN, IN HUTTO'S CCN RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS I FEEL LIKE WE ARE GETTING REAL IN-DEPTH ON SOME THINGS BUT WE ARE KIND OF, I'VE ALWAYS HAD QUESTIONS AND HAVE NEVER GONE I THINK ANSWERED ON EXISTING SOMETHING. FOR INSTANCE, HOW MANY LUE IS HUTTO CCN CURRENTLY DISTRIBUTED WATER? WELL THAT JUST BASED I GUESS ON A WATER BILL.
FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S OUT THERE BECAUSE OF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT COME WILL GET TO IT IMMINENT FOR EFFECT WE ARE OVER -- I DON'T BELIEVE THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE SEEING BUT SO, IF YOU HAVE LIKE IN A WEEK, I FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE A WEEKLY THING BECAUSE IT BEEN HERE THREE YEARS.
IN THREE AS WE BEEN APPROPRIATING MONEY AND TALKING ABOUT IT. FOR SOME REASON, IT SEEMS LIKE -- YOU WOULD REALLY GET ANYTHING GOING IS TO EITHER JUST SAY I MAKE A MOTION ESTOPPEL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, AND GET HEADLINES AND THEREBY IT'S LIKE MY GOD NOW WE HAVE TO REALLY GET TO WORK. I'M THINKING WE NEED TO START HAVING MORE MEETINGS UNTIL WE ALL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. BECAUSE I STILL THINK IT IS -- IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY LU WE 'S WE ARE CURRENTLY USING. AND THE REASON I SAID IS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE GRAPH, THE WATER MASTER PLAN, WATER LU WE SLIDE GRAPH. ON THIS ONE HERE, WHEN I LOOK AT, IF WE COULD ALSO ADD IN THE HUTTO CCN, WITH THE PICTURE LOOKS LIKE. WHEN I LOOK BACK, AND I LOOK AT THIS GRAPH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE LIKE AT 6900, CALL 7000 LU WE 'S AND YOU GUYS ARE PREDICTING A SCORE BY FOUR TIMES IN THE NEXT SAY, 25 YEARS. BOTTLED THINK THERE'S NO CCN AREA LEFT IN HUTTO, TO GROW THAT MUCH.
BECAUSE AS I GO THROUGH WHAT OUR CC ONE IS A KNOW WHICH CHUNK IS A HUGE CHUNK OF INDUSTRIAL, I KNOW WHERE THE SCHOOL IS, I SEE THE CREEK, I SEE WHERE THE CITY OWNS A BUNCH OF LAND FOR PARK. THE AMPHITHEATER AND SO, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS JUST REALLY RUDIMENTARY MATH.
I CAN'T TAKE THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND CCN, CHOP IT UP AND MAKE IT FOUR TIMES BETTER WITHOUT US BEING OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS, WHERE THE DATA IS COMING FROM TO GET TO THE POTENTIAL 31,000 LU WE'S BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF THE LOOP. OR WE ARE NOT GOING IN TO CUSTOMERS ARE LOOKING AT BRUSHY CREEK AMPHITHEATER AND GOING WITH, THERE COULD BE MULTIFAMILY THERE WHEN IN
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REALITY IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.AND BACK IN BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE PLOT FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UNLESS THE HIGH SCHOOL MOVES IT WILL PROBABLY NEVER DEVELOP MORE THAN THEM WHAT THEY USING. I LIKE TO SEE IT BECAUSE I SEE THOSE LU WE'S WORKING AS A CITY, CITY LIMITS.
I JUST CANNOT FATHOM THAT OUR CCN CAN GROW THAT MUCH WITHOUT A TOTAL TEAR DOWN OF OLD TOWN AND HIGHRISE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING I'VE STRUGGLED WITH FOR SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE HUGE PROJECTIONS BUT EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THE CCN AND HUTTO IT IS SO SMALL. IF WE CAN HAVE MORE INFORMATION
ON THAT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT. THE WATER NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW THE PROJECTIONS AND THOSE WERE, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY, I APOLOGIZE. THOSE WERE BASED ON ACTUAL CONNECTIONS. FROM THE BILLING DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, THOSE ARE ACTUAL CITY WATER CONNECTIONS.
AND THIS IS JUST THE WATER NUMBERS, AND SO, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS WAS, AND THEN THE BLUE ACCOUNTS FOR EITHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND IN VARIOUS STAGES DURANGO MAY BE A GOOD EXAMPLE.
PLUS OTHERS THAT HAVE YET TO BREAK GROUND.
THAT IS WHERE SOME OF THESE NEW, THE BLUE LINE NUMBERS ARE AND SO, THESE ARE NUMBERS IN THE HUTTO WATER CCN.
>> I LIKE TO SEE THEM ON THE MAP BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE APPROVED, THERE'S NOT MUCH LAND LEFT BECAUSE IN A YEAR OR TWO IT'S ALL GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. ALMOST THE ENTIRE HUTTO CCN WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION INTO YOUR SERVICE SAY THAT THERE IS STILL ANOTHER 50 PERCENT GROWTH COMING, BUT NOT 50 PERCENT OF THE LANDMASS, THERE'S LIKE 10 TO 15 PERCENT LANDMASS LEFT, THAT'S WERE STRUGGLING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S EASY TO GO, YOU'RE GOING TO 20 PERCENT A YEAR SO IF I PUT THAT UP FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT AT SOME POINT WE ACTUALLY LITERALLY RUN OUT OF, IF OVER JONAH, THAT SUCH A BIG AREA YOU COULD THROW IN, WILL HE BE MULTIFAMILY HERE, RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL.UT IN HUTTO BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT ALMOST EVERYTHING IS IN DEVELOPMENT OUR CCN, IT OUGHT TO BE A PRETTY EASY EXERCISE.
UNTIL YOU GET TO THE SOUTHEAST PAST FARLEY, THAT'S WHERE, EVEN THEM A BIG CHUNK OF THAT LAND IS THE HUTTO WASTEWATER PLANT.
BUT IF WE COULD SEE SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE I THINK ARE GROWTH PROJECTIONS ARE SHOOTING THROUGH THE ROOF WHEN IN REALITY, AT SOME POINT, ON THIS LINE YOU GUYS RAN OUT OF CCN.
THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE IT IS IF YOU TAKE OVER -- BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PROVIDE WATER WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY WE MAY BE ABLE TO
WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME MAPS.
COUNSEL WITH MAPS OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE CURRENTLY, THERE IN THE SYSTEM AS WELL AS ANTICIPATING AREAS IN THE NUMBER OF -- ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IT WILL PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE WHERE THESE WILL GO.
GIVE US A LITTLE TIME. >> ADJUSTABLE TABLE OF $25 MILLION WELL IN THE GROUND, STORE ALL THE WATER AND FIND THAT WE CANNOT USE THE WATER BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CUSTOMERS BECAUSE NOW WE ARE TRYING TO SELL TO JONAH.
IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT FINANCIALLY, THAT I THINK THAT IS HOW WE HIT IT. BUT IF WE GO AND SPEND ALL THE MONEY AND FIND OUT THAT NOW WE HAVE TOO MUCH WATER AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TO THAT SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
AND THEN, -- LET'S SEE HERE. YEAH, THAT WILL HELP OUT WITH PLAN GROWTH. WE TOLD COUNCILMEMBER THORTON THAT THE WORK IS THAT WE APPROVED, ALREADY IN PROCESS OF BEING DONE BUT WHAT IS IT EXACTLY THAT WE ARE DOING AND WHEN WILL IT BE COMPLETED? BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE, YOU WERE NOT HERE BUT TWO YEARS AGO WE BUDGETED SIDEWALKS.
AND TWO YEARS LATER WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
ONE YEAR AGO WE DUG UP A WHOLE DITCH FOR DRAINAGE WATER AND A YEAR LATER, IT IS STILL SITTING THERE.
SOMEHOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIMES, AND THIS IS IN YOU ALL BECAUSE EVERYONE IS NEW BUT IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY APPROPRIATING MONEY AND I WAS TELLING ISAAC THAT ON MY FOURTH BUDGET IN THE SAME CIP PROJECTS WE DID ON MY FIRST BUDGET 2019 AND I DON'T HOW TO GET OUTSIDE OF APPROPRIATING MONEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO ON THE COUNCIL.
SO I'M GETTING NERVOUS THAT WE WILL RUN OUT OF WATER AND IT'S NOT THAT WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE GIVEN THE MONEY. SO.
>> MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH THE OVERALL PROCESS.
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WADE PRESENTED YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH 1660.
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IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN DETAIL MADE WITH SOME PICTURES, SOME PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS, WE CAN CATEGORICALLY GET THAT TO>> GET AN OPPORTUNITY. >> SWITCH OVER TO WASTEWATER.
WHAT IS THE STATE LAW CONOCO RING WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHAT IS THE STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS US TO REUSE WASTEWATER? ISN'T THERE A LAW THAT ALLOWS SO MUCH PERCENT OF WHAT WE DISCHARGE, WE CAN TAKE BACK IN REUSE? AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER IT TONIGHT BUT WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK WAS SAYING, WE LITERALLY HAVE A COMPANY THAT THE WHOLE BUSINESS MODEL IS TAKING WATER THAT, SOME CITIES ROUND ROCK HAS CLEAN WATER, WASTEWATER IN THE CREEK AND SOME CITY DOWN THE ROAD IS PULLING IT RIGHT BACK OUT.
IN REALITY, EVERYONE IS REUSING WATER.
IF YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT LITERALLY IS IN THE WASTEWATER, CONVERTING IT TO DRINKING WATER BUSINESS.ND THEY'VE GOT THIS MODEL. I WOULD THINK LIKE WE HAVE THE WHOLE ACCOUNT WE HAVE A PROBLEM, FIRST YOU TALK TO FRIENDS AND SAY HAVE YOU EVER DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE AND THEY MIGHT SAY WHY ARE YOU DUMPING 2.5 MILLION GALLONS OF THE WATER? AT BRUSHY CREEK WHEN WE LITERALLY COULD FIX THAT AND PIPER RIGHT BACK IN.
YOU NEED TO RUN A 30 MILE LINE FROM LEE COUNTY ONE ALL THE WATER YOU NEED AND THANK GOD, ROUND ROCK IS INCREASING THE DISCHARGE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE AT.
THINGS THAT THAT TO HER IF YOU LIKE I'M NOT SAYING IT'S AN EASY ANSWER BECAUSE IT IS NOT EASY BUT I THINK IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE THERE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT RUNNING A PARALLEL WATERLINE AND DIGGING 30 MILES AWAY WHEN PART OF ME IS THINKING LIKE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, POTENTIALLY, THE WATERS ONLY A MILE AWAY IN THE CREEK.
AND I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION AND I THINK IT IS CALLED --
>> THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DISCHARGE CAN WE REUSE?
>> HOW MUCH CAN WE REUSE AND HOW SOON CAN WE ASK -- TO COME AND SAY EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS AND BALLPARK.F WE WANT TO TAKE 3 MILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER, TREAT IT AND PUMP IT BACK INTO THE FAUCET, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WHAT I'M AFRAID IS, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS, AGAIN, MILLIONS AND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. RUNNING WATER ALMOST FROM LOUISIANA OUT TO HEAR. IN REALITY, THERE'S ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING WATER RIGHT OUT OF THE CREEK WHICH IS WHAT SOMEONE DOWN THE CREEK IS GOING TO DO ANYWAY. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT MAY BE A CONVERSATION THAT MAY BE DOES NOT WORK, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE AT LEAST -- THAT IS THE QUESTION AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER THORTON. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE SOFT PLANT, THAT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION I THINK WE HAVE 30 SOMETHING MILLION AND THE UTILITY FUND ISOMERS FOR THINGS LIKE THIS. IF WE ALREADY KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO EXPAND IT. AND NO IS EASIER TO SAY LET'S GO OUT AND PUT OUT AN RFQ OR SOMETHING OR RFP FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND TELL US THEY WILL CHARGE US YOU KNOW, $1.8 MILLION TO DESIGN THE NEXT EXPANSION BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD ALREADY BE THROWING THAT REQUEST OUT THERE INTO THE MARKET BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO EXPAND THAT EXPAND, HOW MUCH I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS BECAUSE BASED ON THE GRAPH EXPAND 5 MILLION GALLONS, YOU WILL GOING TO A SEEMS LIKE AT SOME POINT IF WE WAIT FOR OCTOBER ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, AND THEN TO SELL BONDS IF YOU THINK IT WILL BE, THESE THINGS OUGHT TO BE A BALLPARK DOLLAR AMOUNT SOMEWHERE BECAUSE GEORGETOWN JUST $109 AND OTHER KNOW HOW MANY GALLONS IT WAS BUT IT SEEMED IF WE KNEW WE MAY NEED 50 MILLION, THAT WE SAY, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND BORROW $20 MILLION BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT NOW, IT WILL BE 200 BASIS POINTS CHEAPER IN THREE MONTHS. YOU WILL USE IT ANYWHERE THIS YEAR WHEREAS IF WE WAIT, I FEEL LIKE WE BEEN WAITING FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS AND KIND OF GETTING ITCHY TO EITHER JUST PUT A MORATORIUM WITH ALL CONSTRUCTION AND MAKE THE MOTION TONIGHT, THAT WAY WE CAN JUST FOCUS ON SER OR SOMEHOW WE
CAN -- >> TWO THINGS REAL QUICKLY.
EVEN IF YOU ARE TO ABLE TO PUT SOME ATTEMPT WE COULDN'T DO THIS TONIGHT. EVEN IN THE NEXT MONTH YOU STILL HAVE DEVELOPING WITHIN THE SYSTEM NOW.
SOME OF THAT, YOUR OBLIGATIONS AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF SORT THROUGH THAT.
THAT IS ONE ITEM THAT STILL HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE NEXT THING THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF, IS THAT THEIR
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SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IF THE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT YOU GOT TO MAKE. AND SO, TO DO SOME LEVELS OF IMPROVEMENT WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT YOU WILL NEED ULTIMATELY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO SOME DEGREE, PUTTING YOURSELF IN A POSITION, YOU WILL HAVE TO REDO SOME OF WHAT YOU DID BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE.SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE WILL LOOK AT IT AND BASED ON THE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK'S QUESTION, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET THE MONEY NOW? SAY, CONSERVATIVELY, WHAT MIGHT THE MAX BE TO ENGINEERS, NOT THAT THE PRODUCT EXCUSE ME, THE PRODUCTS WILL BE DESIGNED TO ANYTHING BUT HOW MUCH MONEY SHOULD WE PULL OR TRY TO GET TOGETHER NOW BEFORE THE INTEREST RATE GOES UP.
NO HAVE COUNSEL BEHRMANN WERE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CITY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT TO SOME DEGREE AND -- BUT WILL CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT. IT IS MORE OF A MAXIMUM COST, MAYBE ENGINEERING ISSUE. BUT HOW TO GET THOSE RESOURCES OR IF THERE'S ANY ADVANTAGE IN GETTING THOSE RESOURCES EARLIER IS MORE OF A FINANCE ISSUE AND YOUR SOME PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY BOND FOLKS AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS CAN HELP WITH SOME QUESTIONS.
>> IT WAS A READY PRESENTED TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO BUT AT SOME POINT, IF HE CAME BACK AT WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THE BALL ROLLING, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE GET PRESENTATIONS AND AT SOME POINT JIM TALKED TO US WE KNOW WITH THE CAPACITY IS IN THE CITY AND SO, I'M JUST REALLY NERVOUS THAT FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT BORROWING SOME MONEY AND BY THEN IT IS 18 PERCENT INTEREST.
AND WE WERE SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FOUR MONTHS AGO.
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT PART.
PLEASE ALSO, THE INTEREST IS AN ISSUE AND WE HAVE TO ADJUST THAT AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND WILL PROVIDE THAT BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.
CONSIDERING THE ENORMOUS GROWTH RATE AND INFORMATION WE'VE GONE RECENTLY, THE NINE MONTH PROCESS IS A SPECIFICALLY FAST PROCESS OVERALL. I WAS THINKING OF SOME THINGS WE DID TODAY, AND THINKING ABOUT THAT THESE HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH THE PROCESS TO THE POINT WHERE WE END UP MAKING A BIG ERROR. AND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THAT BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN SET ASIDE, GET MONEY AND SET ASIDE BECAUSE WE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE EXPENSES COMING WHILE INTEREST RATES ARE LOW. WE GOT THAT.
I DO WANT TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE TIME FOR SPECIFIC CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE, SPECIFIC PROJECT PLANS, SPECIFIC PLAN IMPROVEMENT SO THEY HAVE TIME TO GET THAT RIGHT. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FIREWORKS HERE.
WE CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CURRENT INTEREST RATES, AND I WILL
START THAT MEETING NEXT WEEK. >> AND THEN I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE. I FORGOT HER BURDEN OF THE REVENUE LINE VERSUS THE LIFT STATIONS.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE, WHAT IS THE YEARLY OPERATIONAL COST MAINTENANCE OF A LIFT STATION VERSUS GRAVITY LINE.
BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO BUILD STUFF.
AND SO, I KNOCKED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S EASY TO SAY IT WOULD BE VERY COST-EFFECTIVE AND CHEAPER FOR YOU ALL LONG TERM TO FIX THIS LINE.
BUT IF THE DEBT SERVICE ON THAT IS 300,000 A YEAR AND WE ARE HAVING SAVING 200,000 YEAR THAT I FEEL LIKE THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO IS TO KEEP LIFT STATION.
AND SO, IT'S US ENGINEERING AND LESS WORK.
BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS SHOULDN'T BE ON HOW DO WE IMPROVE LIKE MONEY-SAVING THINGS, AS MUCH A SHOULD BE HOW DO WE KEEP THE TOILETS FROM NOT BACKING UP FIRST, AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT FIGURED OUT, THEN GO BACK TO, NOW HOW DO WE MAKE EVERYTHING MORE EFFICIENT? BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN KNOWN IN THE CITY, WE BOUGHT NEW LAWNMOWERS OVER TWO YEARS OLD BECAUSE IT WOULD GET SUFFICIENT.
ON THE GUERRILLAS AND THE SAVINGS ARE ULTIMATELY, BUT WE
MAKE THAT DECISION. >> MR. MAYOR? ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED THE GROUP TO DO, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXTENDED HISTORY WITH HUTTO, BUT ASKED HIM TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO DO IT ON THE CHEAP. AND IN ANTICIPATION THAT WE THINK COUNSEL WILL ONLY APPROVE THIS, ALTHOUGH THIS WOULD BE
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IDEAL. WE ASKED THEM TO BRING YOU THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU MAKE THE DECISION UP TO GO WITH THAT OR AM ALTERNATIVE. I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. THEY CAN BRING INFORMATION OF A MAIN VERSUS GRAVITY LINE OVER THE LIFETIME OF SOME PERIOD THAT IS NOT JUST ONE YEAR, BUT A 20 YEAR PERIOD OR SOMETHING.SO YOU CAN COMPARE AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE IMPACT.
>> OPTIONS ARE GOOD. SOMETIMES COUNSEL MIGHT WANT THE MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
IN OTHER TIMES, COUNSEL MAY WANT THE CHEAPER OPTION.
MAYBE IT SOUNDS NICE OR SOMETHING.
THE LAST MONTH INCOME WE TALKED ABOUT THE BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR. HAS NOT BEEN STARTED? OR DOES THAT NEED TO BE DESIGNED? IT IS IMPORTANT BUT WHERE ARE WE HOT?
>> IS BEING DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE DEVELOPERS, AND IS DEVELOPING A PLAN, HAS BUILT PLANS AND CITY STAFF AND CONSULTANTS HAVE REVIEWED THAT.
THAT PRODUCT IS IN FINAL DESIGN.
THAT IS FOR THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE PROJECT.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT SO THIS IS JUST -- BUT, THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT HAS NOT BEGUN.
THE INITIAL PHASE WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> AND IF I CAN ON THAT NOTE, I DID MENTION THIS EARLIER.
OTHER IDENTIFYING IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE CAN GET THE DEVELOPER TO HELP PARTICIPATE AND FUND THE PROJECT, THAT THE CHEAPEST RATE CAN BUILD THE PROJECT. YOU GET IT DONE QUICKER, NOT TO GO THROUGH SOME TIME AND PROCUREMENT.
ANY COST THE CITY MAY OCCUR WILL SAY, THAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY THAT COST WISE YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING IN THE GROUND. WE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS.
TO HELP IMPROVE THE SYSTEM MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.
>> TO THAT, I THINK WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS KIND OF BASICALLY I HEAR THEM SAY, IF YOU TELL US WHAT YOU NEED, WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD IT. BUT I THINK THE STRUGGLE YOU'RE HAVING IS, NO ONE IS COMMUNICATING EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. SO IF THEY PAY 4 MILLION TORR EXPANSION OR 2 MILLION, AND SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE READY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO PAY THEIR WAY THROUGH. BUT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED FROM THEM, WORST CASE SCENARIO DEVELOPERS LEAVE
AND -- >> I THINK YOU WILL BE PLEASED IF YOU SAW THE SER INFORMATION GOING OUT TO THE DEVELOPERS.
AND NATURALLY, I WISH IT WAS ALREADY OUT THERE BUT IT SHOULD BE OUT BY THE END OF THE MONTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS USING THOSE TO START DISCUSSION PIECES BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRETTY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT A SPECIFIC DEVELOPER NEEDS FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IS THE CITIES EXPENSE TO INCUR AND WHAT IS THE DEVELOPERS EXPENSE TO OCCUR.
WHAT THE DEVELOPERS EXPECT TO INCUR IN TERMS OF WHAT PROJECTS IS THE DEVELOPERS RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT SOME OVERSIGHT OF WHAT COULD BE THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND THOSE ARE SEEN AND SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT'S NEEDED. AND THEN THERE IS FLEXIBILITY TALK ABOUT HOW THOSE ENHANCEMENTS ARE MADE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED WITH ONE RECENT DEVELOPMENT, THEY DISAGREED WITH WHAT WAS ON THE PAPER, THEY COULD HIRE SOME ENGINEERS AND THEY CAN TALK.
THE MAIN THING WE WANT TO SEE IS THAT THE SYSTEM IS THE RIGHT SIZE AND IT WORKS. BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION TO DEVELOPERS AND IS PART OF WHY THIS PROCESS WAS BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES.
SO THE INFORMATION CAN GET OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE ONCE WE
HAVE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION. >> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, WADE. YOU'RE A 20 YEAR EMPLOYEE OF HUTTO AND THIS IS ALL ON YOU. YOU KIND OF WALKED INTO A YEARS LONG PROBLEM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH WITHOUT EVERYBODY YELLING AT YOU. I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS
ARE GOING THROUGH. >> AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, DAVID, AND ALSO, DCS FOR THE WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
THIS IS BEEN AN ONGOING THING FOR YEARS.
AS FAR AS THE -- BROUGHT UP AND GROWTH IN TRYING TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES WE HAVE APPROVED SINCE JANUARY THAT ARE COMING WITH THE 10 MILE RADIUS OF US.
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AND THAT IS ALL GOING TO BE HUTTO WATER.SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THE GN IDEAS -- GREAT IDEAS BUT WE ARE AT A POINT NOW, WE HAVE TO JUST GET IT DONE.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT, FOR I KNOW WE ARE IN A SITUATION WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
WHAT I'M SEEING, AND IT WAS THAT WAY A YEAR AGO, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW. I THINK WE ARE TRUSTING THE CITY MANAGER, TRUSTING WADE, TRUSTING THE PEOPLE WE ARE WORKING WITH AND WOULD GO WITH THAT.
I DON'T WANT COUNSEL TO STAND IN THE WAY AND ASK FOR MORE WORK TO BE DONE ON THE BACKEND THAT MAY SLOW THINGS DOWN.
SO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND GET THAT OUT THERE.
NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT ALL GREAT IDEAS AND THESE THINGS NEED TO COME UP, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD COME INTO PLANNING STAGES BEFORE WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO GET WORK STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND I KNOW THIS IS A PRESSING ISSUE.
>> THIS RAISING HAND THING, NO IT DOESN'T WORK BUT.
[LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER.ND CERTAINLY, IF I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED THAT WAS SO THIS DOWN OR BE AN IMPEDIMENT, I CERTAINLY FEEL THE FREEDOM BECAUSE THE WAY YOU ALL HAVE TREATED ME TO MENTION THAT. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN.
IF THEY SAY DOESN'T KNOW ASK YOU TO WAIT AND LET US GET TO THE ANSWER SUBSEQUENTLY. AS YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PROCESS HAS TO GO. I THINK WE HAVE SOME EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WE GET ON THE ROAD, TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOME WORK. PARTICULARLY WITH THE PLANTS, TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE CHATTED ABOUT. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF GETTING LARGE FIRMS TO DO THIS, AS YOU GET QUESTIONS WE CAN DRAW MORE RESOURCES TO GET THEM ANSWERED. I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS LITERAL BUT APPRECIATE THE TIME WE ARE TAKING IN DISCUSSING THIS.
IT'S KIND OF EXCITING FOR ME, THIS IS GOOD.
>> AND ONE LAST THING. >> I DIDN'T MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE ALL GREAT IDEAS WITH THE MONEY SITUATION AND GETTING THAT LOCKED DOWN I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL.
>> WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
THE MEASURED VALUE IS WHAT YOU SAY IS THE THEORETICAL MODEL.
THIS IS THE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THAT THEY THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT WILL BE NEEDED.
IT IS NOT THE MORE ACCURATE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH IS A MORE ACCURATE MODEL. EVEN IF YOU LOOK UNTIL 2028, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GETTING 19 PERCENT GROWTH THERE WERE 2025 IS 28 PERCENT VERSUS 10.
BUT I BASICALLY SEE A GAP OF DEVELOPERS TELLING YOU WE KNEW WILL BE 18 PERCENT FASTER THAN WHAT YOU ARE MODELING OVER THIS NEXT FIVE YEARS. LIKE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE ALIGNED. 2023, YOU THINK THEIR LITTLE GOING FASTER BUT AFTER THAT YEAR, EVERY YEAR, THEY ARE
HIGHER. >> I GUESS I DIDN'T TOUCH NOT MY PRESENTATION BUT I MEASURED, WE MEANT LESS AGGRESSIVE AND OBVIOUSLY IT IS VERY RELATIVE IN THE SITUATION.
WE DIDN'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT THAT IS REAL DATA OR ANYTHING.
THAT WAS OUR INITIAL GUESS. >> BUT IS DEVELOPER REAL?
THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> IS FINE AT NOT BEING AN ENGINEER, YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, I'M NOT.
THE QUESTION MY MIND WAS, WHEN THIS WAS BEING ASSESSED AND LOOKED AT AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS 1000 UNITS, WHEN THE MODELING IS BEING DONE, IS THE MODELING BEING DONE AS THOUGH THAT WILL TAKE PLACE, ONCE APARTMENTS ARE GIVEN? OR IS THERE SOME ABSORPTION RATE, THAT SORT OF THING BEING ASSUMED IN IT.
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT THESE AS GAUGES AND NOT ONE OR THE OTHER IS BEING THE ABSOLUTE FACT THAT GAUGES ARE INDICATORS SO THAT THEY CAN DO AND POLISH UP ON THE CRYSTAL BALL TO COME TO GIVE YOU ALL RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT ASSUMPTIONS WE OUGHT TO UTILIZE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
AND WHAT THAT THEN DOES TO OUR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE.
AND IF I MISSTATED ANYTHING, PLEASE.
>> I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.
A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAUSAGE MAKING HERE BUT ROUGHLY 7000 AS
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OF TODAY THUS ACTUAL CUSTOMERS. WE CAN TOUCH THEM AND WE KNOW THEY ARE THERE. THE BLUE LINE IS KIND OF THE MORE AGGRESSIVE LINE FROM, STRAIGHT FROM THE DEVELOPERS AND ACCOUNTING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME SINS FROM THE DEVELOPER ON WITH THE BILL THE SCHEDULE IS AND TRYING TO PROTECT THAT OUT.THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT IS THE MOST REALISTIC EDUCATING YOU KNOW, ASSESSMENT ON MAPPING THIS OUT.
MOVING FORWARD THEM BASING PROJECTIONS BASED ON THAT.
>> 1000 APARTMENTS IS 500 LUES. -- SEE GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND THUS WERE GO TO THE HOLE AND THING, START LOOKING AT EXCHANGE AND IT'S LIKE IF IT WAS 1200 APARTMENTS ARE 600 LUES, IF WE GET TO 31,000, THAT'S GREAT WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR IT BUT I WILL GET FOOD FOR EVERYBODY THAT IF HE DID ALL THAT YOU'LL RUN OUT OF SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WILL HELP OUT BECAUSE THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH AND KNOW WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WHAT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE IS, I FORGET THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP NORTH UP 1660 BUT TWO YEARS AGO HAVE THE DEVELOPER PUT IN A LIFT STATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. TWO YEARS LATER, WE FIND OUT IT WAS UNDERSIZED AND WE REALLY NEED TO TEAR IT ALL BACK OUT AND THE NEW DEVELOPER COMES IN AND WANT TO BE REIMBURSED.
THE CONGRESS HASN'T HEARD YET AND WE'RE TEARING IT UP.
I HOPE THIS IS A PLAN THAT IN THE FUTURE WE CAN GO, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RIPPING A BRAND-NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
NOTHING DRIVES PEOPLE CRAZY MORE.
>> AND WE HAVE A WORKING MODEL OF THE DRAFT RIGHT NOW.
WILL FINE-TUNE IT FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES AND HOPEFULLY MAKE SENSE AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS LEVERAGE THE WORK ON THE COMP PLAN. LOOKING AT THOSE UNDEVELOPED AREAS AND WHAT THE LAND USES ARE.
AND BLEND THEM INTO THIS AS WELL AS FAR AS COMING UP WITH
THOSE PROJECTIONS. >> THE 2047 NUMBER THERE IS ROUGHLY, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS A BILL THAT NUMBER SO THAT IS KIND OF ASSUMING ALL UNDEVELOPED AREA IN THE CCN IS
INCLUDED. >> WILL HAVE THAT ON THE MAP.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- WILL HAVE IT FOR YOU, MR.
MAYOR. >> ON THE SOUTH GATE, THINK THAT WAS WHEN THE DEVELOPER IS PUTTING IN THE SER, IS THAT
CORRECT? >> THAT WOULD HAVE THE
DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. >> THAT ONE DID HAVE, OKAY.
WAS THAT AN OVERSIZED LINE? >> I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP
OF MY HEAD. >> I JUST KNOW THAT ONE IS IN PROGRESS. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE IT ON THE MAP. THAT IS WHERE WE HAD THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND LEVERAGE THEM PUTTING IT IN.
>> IS ACTION YOU NEED FROM US OR SOMETHING WE CAN DO?
>> NO, SIR. THE ENGINEERS WANTED TO UPDATE YOU, JUST LET YOU KNOW WHERE THEY WERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT OF THE FUN A POINT. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE SERS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU WILL HEAR FROM ENTITIES AS A RESULT OF RECEIVING LETTERS ON THE SERS, PLEASE LET STAFF KNOW ASAP, SO WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP THAT CAN SIT AND TALK WITH DEVELOPERS AND WALK THEM THROUGH SOME OF THE RATIONALE, AND SOME OF THE ENGINEERING AND ALSO, KIND OF VISIT WITH THEM ON -- WHAT IS NEEDED AND HOW IT CAN GET DONE.
>> ONE LAST THING. I WANT TO HAVE AN UPDATED AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE ARE ON THE UPDATED POLICY BECAUSE IT WILL DOVETAIL WITH THIS AND HOW WE DO THIS.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT, HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET.
>> THE POLICIES ON THE NEXT AGENDA I BELIEVE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT. BY THE WAY, IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MONTH AND 1/2 OUT OF AGENDAS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, AND WE'VE GOT THINGS ON THE AGENDAS. THE OTHER THING IF I GIVE YOU A DATE, PLEASE UNDERSTAND A FEW OF THOSE MAY CHANGE.
THEY MAY DROP AND GO BACK OUT. WE HAD ONE THING ACTUALLY MOVE UP. WE ARE TRYING TO PLAN THESE THINGS OUT AND I DON'T DISTRIBUTE THOSE BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING AND I WANT TO GET THAT LOCKED IN YOUR MIND A FEW QUESTIONS WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM UP AND WHERE IS IT AT.
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PLEASE LET ME KNOW. >> THANK YOU SIR.
[10.3. Discussion and possible action to select the highest ranking firm, Roadway Asset Services, to develop a Pavement Assessment and Management Plan and authorize the City Manager to negotiate a professional services agreement with the selected vendor for said services pursuant to RFQ# S22-04. (Wade Benton)]
THANKS. >> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 10.3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO SELECT THE HIGHEST-RANKING FIRM, ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES, TO DEVELOP A PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND MANAGEMENT PLAN AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE SELECTED VENDOR FOR SAID SERVICES PURSUANT TO RFQ S22-04.
>> THIS IS AN ITEM, PROJECT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THIS YEAR, THE CITY HAS AS YOU KNOW, BEEN GROWING, THE LAST TIME THE CITY HAD A PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT DONE WHICH WAS IN 2016 AND 17, IT WAS A FAIRLY BASIC ASSESSMENT. IT DID IDENTIFY SOME IMPROVEMENTS, AND DEVELOPED WHAT WE CALL A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. ECI THAT ASSESSES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE SO TO SPEAK, OF SEGMENTS OF STREETS.
IT GIVES A NUMERICAL VALUE TO IT.
AND THOSE ARE IMPORTANT AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR STREET PAVEMENT SYSTEM, TO OPTIMIZE YOUR OWO&M COST.
YOU MIGHT THINK BASED ON CONDITION OF PAVEMENT YOU'LL CLASSIFY THIS AS WE WILL RECONSTRUCT.
BUT YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR O&M DOLLARS ON PAVEMENT YOU CAN REALLY LEVERAGE AND EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT.
DOES A TYPICALLY, THE MIDRANGE. THE ASSESSMENT IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, WAS BUDGETED. I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD TOOL FOR THE CITY. AS WE LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD, DEVELOPING OUR O&M COST AND PROGRAM FOR MANAGING THE PAYMENTS. WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, TALKED TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FIRMS THAT DO THIS TYPE OF WORK OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
KIND OF TALKING TO OTHER CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE THAT HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS RECENTLY, GETTING SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S WORKED WELL FOR THEM, WHAT THEY LOOK INTO LESS, HOW THEY ARE USING THE TOOLS AND WE DEVELOPED A SCOPE FOR THE PROJECT BASED UPON THAT AND SO, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WAS BASICALLY TO GO OUT AND COLLECT DATA ON ALL OF THE CITY MAINTAIN STREETS. THAT IS NOT HIGHWAY 79, IT IS NOT 1660, THE STATE ROADS. BUT ALL THE CITY MAINTAIN STREETS THE WAY THE SCOPE IS DEVELOPED WHERE REQUIRING AND WANTING REALLY ALL THE FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED WE BASICALLY WANT A DIGITAL ASSESSMENT, DATA COLLECTION.
IN ESSENCE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM -- IS BASICALLY A SCANNING TYPE OF TOOL. THIS IS SOME VARIATION OF THAT.
IT'S A MOBILE TRUCK THAT DRIVES THE STREET, PICK THE DATA, VIDEO, IMAGES, AND MEASURES REAL-TIME.
THEY ARE REALLY PRETTY SLICK OPERATIONS.
USUALLY, IT CAN BE A ONE-PERSON PROJECT BUT A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A DRIVER AND SOMEONE IN THE BACK MONITORING ALL OF THE DATA COLLECTION AND THESE VEHICLES USUALLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 10 VIDEO CAMERAS, LASER DETECTION MEASURING EQUIPMENT, SO YOU GET A GOOD ASSESSMENT OF DATA COLLECTION WAS OUT THERE. WE HAVE DATA ON ALL EXISTING PAYMENTS, LOOKING FOR THEM ALSO POTENTIALLY TO INCLUDE INVENTORY FOR SIDEWALKS, SIDEWALK GAPS, SIGNAGE, REALLY A HOLISTIC ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE.
-- WE CAN RANK EVERY SEGMENT OF PAVEMENT TOWN, COME UP WITH A SCORE RELATED TO IT AND BASED UPON THAT, DEVELOP A FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTATION FOR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT WILL BE A FIRST RUN AT THAT, FIRST DRAFT.
AND HIS PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT PLANS ARE REALLY MEANT TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT.ND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, EVERY YEAR, AS YOU GO AND MAINTAIN SEGMENTS OF STREETS, THOSE COME OFF THE LIST AND MAYBE OTHERS THAT RISE UP TO IT.
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HAVING A ROLLING FIVE-YEAR PLAN SO THAT COUNSEL EACH YEAR CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO FUND FOR PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE, EACH YEAR. THAT CAN BE A CRACKED CEILING, SEAL COAT, OVERLAYS, THERE MAY BE SOME SEGMENTS YOU WANT TO REBUILD A SEGMENT OF STREET OR MAYBE A BLOCK OR TWO IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. HATEVER! THIS GIVES YOU THE TOOLS TO MAKE SOME FINANCIAL DECISIONS ON HOW YOU CAN BEST LEVERAGE OR DOLLARS.AND SO THE SCOPE IS DEVELOPED THE CONSULTANT AND VENDOR WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US SOFTWARE -- ADDRESS IS IMPLEMENTED THEY CAN GO IN AND DO WHAT IF SCENARIOS, US COUNSEL DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE A DIFFERENT PARTY MAY BE IN A CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN OR SEGMENT OF STREET OR ROAD, WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT DOES AND THREE RESPONDENTS WE HAD, ALL HAD NATIONAL PRESENCE WITH A LOCAL OFFICE AND TWO COME WITH THREE FIRMS SUBMITTED, ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES, APPLIED RESEARCH ASSISTANTS AND TRC ENGINEERS. BASED ON RANKING REALLY THE TOP TIER ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES AND BASED UPON THE SCOPE AND EXPERTISE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CONTRACT RES AND REAUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND GET THAT ROLLING. WITH THAT I AM OPEN TO QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE
PROJECT. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL?
[INAUDIBLE] >> IT WILL LIKELY BE DONE FROM DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU SO THE WATER PRESSURE MAP SOME RED AREAS WERE IN THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN WHERE THERE OLDER LINES AND SMALLER LINES.SUALLY THOSE ARE THE SAME PLACES YOU WILL NEED TO DO SOME MAJOR WORK ON STREETS. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE WORK ON THE STREET AND THEN GO BACK AND REPLACE A LINE AND TEAR UP THE STREET AND THAT SORT OF THING.
IT WILL BE A CORRELATION BEFORE THAT THAT WILL IMPACT WHICH AREAS YOU DO AND WHICH COMES FIRST.
>> IS A GREAT COUNT AND I WOULD ADD ONE OTHER THING TO THAT. IT ALSO GIVES YOU SOME TOOLS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEURAL PARTS OF TOWN.
IF YOU'VE GOT A PROJECT BASICALLY PAVED THE STREET OR REDO THE STREET AND SOMEONE WAS TO COME IN AND CUT IT.
WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT DEFINE A THRESHOLD OF WHERE THAT IS ALLOWABLE AND NOT AND WHAT MITIGATION MEASURES MIGHT NEED TO BE IN PLACE TO DO THAT. THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS BRAND-NEW STREET COMING IN AND PUT A BUNCH OF UTILITY CUTS ACROSS, THUS THE QUICKEST WAY TO END LINE FOR THAT STREET.
>> COUNSEL MADE GET IN THE SITUATIONS, SOMEONE WHO ALSO CUT THE STREET TO PUT IN A NEW WHATEVER.
AND STEPH MIGHT SAY THEY NEED TO GO UNDER IT SO THEY DON'T CUT THE PAVEMENT AND THAT WILL PUT PRESSURE ON YOU TO SAY WE WILL FIX IT BACK.S GOOD AS NEW AND NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO.
>> EVERYONE ELSE GOES UNDER THE ROAD SO --
>> WHAT DID THE BID COME IN AT?
>> THIS WAS QUALIFICATION BASED SELECTION.
BUT I WILL SAY WITH THE BUDGET WE HAVE, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN GET THE WORK DONE WITHIN THE BUDGET.
>> OKAY. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS SOME OF THE ORANGE, THE COUNTY ROADS.
I KNOW THERE IS QUITE A FEW SECTIONS LIKE 137 AND 199 WHERE WE HAVE ANNEXED THOSE BUT I THOUGHT THAT THOSE SHIFTED TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR 137 AND 199 OR
NOT? >> WE OFFER SOME OF THE SEGMENTS AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT MAP WAS CREATED AT A POINT IN TIME ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL DO FOR THE SCOPING MEETING A SIT DOWN WITH THE CONSULTANT WITH THE LATEST VERSION OF THE AND ALSO, LOOK AT AREAS THAT WE KNOW THAT MAY BE COMING IN FOR ANNEXATION IN THE NEAR TERM AND GET THOSE SEGMENTS INCLUDED AS
WELL. >> MR. MARY, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I HAVE CHALLENGED STAFF TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ASSUMED ROADS FROM THE COUNTY THAT WE MAINTAIN, TYPICALLY, A BEEN USED TO THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT DEFINING WHO WOULD MAINTAIN THE ROADS AND OFTEN TIMES, IT IS STATED THAT ONCE IT IS IN THE CITY IS A CITY ROAD BUT SOMETIMES IT IS NOT.
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I WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT AND I THINK TO SOME DEGREE, WE BUCKLE IN THE COUNTY TO ASK THEM AND TO ME THAT'S FINE, EXCEPT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DOCUMENTATION.THERE ARE STILL QUESTIONS SOME OF THE AREAS PROVIDING THE
MAINTENANCE, IN MY MIND. >> IS ALSO FAIR THAT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AT THE TIME THAT WE TAKE IT OVER SHOULD BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION?
>> THAT IS EXACTLY -- THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT, AND I'VE TALKED WITH STAFF. IF, AS PART OF ANNEXATION BEING PART OF WHATEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT TAKING OVER A ROAD WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR A PRIVATE ROAD, THE NEED TO BRING IT UP TO CITY STANDARDS FIRST. BEFORE WE WOULD TAKE IT OVER.
CERTAINLY, BEFORE THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING IT OVER.
>> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, BECAUSE WE FINALLY IMPLEMENT AGAIN, TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, SINCE THIS IS ONGOING I DO KNOW ABOUT THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BUT SINCE IT IS A PROJECT OUT ONCE WE GET TO THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE COUNTING AS A ONGOING CAP PROJECT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT WILL BE TRIGGERED BACK INTO AS YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE DRIVING THE ROADS -- THAT IS SOMETHING
I'M CURIOUS. >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, IT CAN BE. BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE UPDATE. I AM NOT SURE IF THIS PARTICULAR STUDY, IF YOU WILL, WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL
TIF CAPITAL PLAN. >> THERE GOING TO GIVE US ALL THE DATA. THEY WILL GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN HOW WE DECIDE TO IMPLEMENT KEEPING UP WITH THAT, WHETHER HE PUT IN A CIP OR ANYTHING. WE SHOULD BE DEVELOPING SOME KIND OF INTERNALLY IN THE CITY, SOME KIND OF SYSTEM OF HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS EVERY YEAR.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IS THE GIVE TWO ELEMENTS OF THAT. YOU HAVE A SECTION OF CIP THAT WILL TALK ABOUT STREETS. MORE THAN LIKELY, IN THE CIP, THIS WILL BE FOR STREET CONSTRUCTION, STREET RIBALD TYPE OF THINGS. THEN IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, TYPICALLY, YOU WILL HAVE STREETS THAT ARE BEING REHABBED OR REPAIRED AND THAT WILL BE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A LIST OF THE STREETS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND IT OUGHT TO BE BASED ON
THESE NUMBERS AS WELL AS -- >> I PERSONALLY REALLY LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT TAKES INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS OUT OF THE PRIORITIZATION. IT MAKES IT, I KNOW I-DRIVE 137 A LOT SO I WILL ALWAYS PUSH, IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. BUT THIS REALLY MAKES IT KIND OF COME FROM THAT SUBJECTIVE MINDSET TO MORGAN OBJECTIVE.
CIVIL GET OF THE RAW DATA AND PRIORITIZE.
OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE UP BUT I FEEL LIKE THE CONDITION -- WILL HAVE OUR OWN LITTLE POCKETS.
PERSONALLY, THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE IT FROM THAT SUBJECTIVE TO MAKING IT OBJECTIVE IN MY MIND. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HOPEFULLY GET ON THAT STREET IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND TO DO IN A FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY ACROSS
THE BOARD. >> I ALSO LIKE THAT LOOKING AT IT ON -- I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE I'VE LOOKED ALMOST 16 YEARS I'VE SEEN CARL STERN BE REDONE THREE TIMES.
AND IN 16 YEARS, THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE EITHER UNDER DESIGNED THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE PUT INTO IT DIDN'T LAST, AND WE'VE HAD WITH THE FREEZE, EXPANSIONS AND HUGE POTHOLES AND IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT HAS TO BE REPAIRED.
IT IS LIKE YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MAYBE WE WOULD NOT BE REPAIRING IT AS FREQUENTLY.
BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE COST TO THE CITY.
IT IS SOMETHING I NOTICE. >> AS AN ARTERIAL ROAD VERSUS A COLLECTOR ROAD, THE KIND OF TAKE THAT TRIP AMOUNT INTO IT BECAUSE THEY LOOK IF IT'S AN ARTERIAL ROAD OR COLLECTOR ROAD. A PRIVATE ROAD, CITY STREETS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD GO INTO CALCULATIONS. THIS IS ARTERIAL.
IT WILL HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.>> AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE SCOPE AS TO PRESENT THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL, AND SO, I WOULD ASK THAT THAT WOULD MAYBE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT IN TERMS OF AREAS THAT MAY BE AT LEAST FOCUS OR MAYBE A PRIORITY. OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL WILL NEED TO
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SET THE BUDGET EACH YEAR AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT IT IS A PARTICULAR ASPECT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO TRY TO A LITTLE MORE HEAVILY THE FIRST YEAR, I THINK THERE WILL BE A GREATOPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I GUESS ONE IS A QUESTION.
WHAT DO WE DO AN RFQ INSTEAD OF RFP? HERE IS WHERE ASK THAT. IT MAKES ME FEEL UNEASY THAT YOU PICK SOMEBODY, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE COST YET BUT WE THINK IT WILL BE WITHIN BUDGET BECAUSE POTENTIALLY, THE NUMBER TWO PERSON THAT FIRM MAY BE $60,000 CHEAPER, BUT IT IS UNUSUAL I GUESS MAY BE ASKED TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS. I WILL JUST REDO IT AND EXPERIENCE IS ANY INDICATION FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH, IT WILL COME BACK 215 BUT STILL THE BEST.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M NOT KNOCKING AND I'M JUST
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE REASON WHY WE OPTED WITH REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS IS BECAUSE AS PART OF THE SCOPE WERE ASKING FOR THEM TO DEVELOP THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND TYPICALLY THAT INVOLVES AN ENGINEER.
IF WE DIDN'T GO OUT TO GET THE SERVICES TO COLLECT THE DATA, SOMEONE WILL ASSESS IT. AND SO, WHAT ONE OF THE CRITERIA IN THE SELECTION WAS THAT EACH FIRM NEED TO HAVE A LICENSED ENGINEER THAT HAD EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPING THESE PLANS AND IMPLEMENTING THESE PLANS AND HAD A TRACK RECORD FOR THAT. THERE IS THE TECHNOLOGY PART OF THAT AND WE ABSOLUTELY COULD HAVE TACKLED THAT AS A VENDOR.
AND THEN HAVE ENGINEERING ON THE SIDE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR THAT SERVICE AS WELL AND STAFF, WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE PACKAGE IT IS ONE COMPLETE PACKAGE.
AND DO IT AS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
WE DID GO OUT AND TALK TO A NUMBER OF ENTITIES, BOTH IN AUSTIN METRO AND SAN ANTONIO METRO.
PLANS THAT THEY HAD PERFORMED AND LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
NOT ONLY ON THE TYPE OF WORK THAT WAS DONE, WHO THOSE FOLKS WERE BUT HOW MUCH THEY SPENT ON THE PROJECTS.
AND SO, THAT I THINK GAVE US SOME COMFORT LEVEL THAT LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFQ THAT WAY WE COULD PICK THE FIRM AND TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WANT TO USE. AND IN OUR OPINION, THIS IS THE BEST FIRM AND TECHNOLOGY FOR THE PROJECT.
>> I WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE, DON'T WANT TO SAY WOULD BE NO INTEREST TO MAP STATE AND COUNTY ROADS, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE COST NOT TO DO EVERY WORD YOU KNOW, BUT ALL THE MAJOR ROADS IN THE CITY REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT BECAUSE IF WE RANK JUST CITY ROADS, I WONDER HOW IT WOULD HELP IF WE WENT TO TXDOT MEETING AND SAID THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF ROAD, 1660 SO POOR, THAT ACTUALLY RATES A D AND IS ONE OF THE WORST RATED ROADS WE HAVE IN THE CITY. LET'S SAY WE GET WAY ABOVE AND START REALLY GETTING ROADS LOOK GOOD WE COULD ALSO GO TO THE COUNTY AND PUT PRESSURE THAT THE WORST ROADS WE CAN TELL THE VOTERS THE WORST RED YOU HAVE IN THE ROADWAY SYSTEM, THEIR COUNTY ROADS. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN FROM A CITY STANDPOINT BUT WE WON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO DO ANY OF THAT BECAUSE WE MAY WANT 137 DONE AND IS A COUNTY ROAD AND THEY SAY IS ADEQUATE. IT MEETS WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BUT WE MAY WANT TO ARGUE OTHERWISE BUT WITH RELEASE OF THE DATA TO COME BACK AND MAYBE EVEN SAY, MAY WE PAY 50 PERCENT OF THE COST IF YOU GUYS WILL KICK IN THE OTHER.
BUT AGAIN, IF IT IS $400,000 TO GET ON THE ROADS, MAYBE IT IS NOT WORTH IT BUT IF HE OR SHE IS DRIVING 50 MILES AN HOUR
DONE REMAPPING EVERYTHING, -- >> WE CAN CERTAINLY POSE THE QUESTION AND SEE IF, IF TECHNOLOGY ITSELF IS, IS PER MILE, IT IS DRIVETIME. IT IS THE BACKEND ON THE DATA.
MANIPULATION AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY MAYBE DO THAT AS AN OPTION TO SEE IF THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET. I WOULD SAY ON THE TXDOT ROADS, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT AS A LOT OF VALUE TO BE HONEST.
THE COUNTY ROADS OKAY YES, I THINK THERE IS VALUE THERE.
TXDOT HAS THEIR OWN PROCESS AND SYSTEM OF EVALUATING THE ROADWAYS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THEY WILL OVERLAY PLANS FOR THAT. ON A REGULAR BASIS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WILL HAVE 1660 THIS NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.
AND SO, THAT IS ON AN ANNUAL CYCLE.
I DON'T, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHAT THE COST IS BUT I DON'T
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SEE IT AS HUGE VALUE TO BE HONEST.>> TWO TXDOT ROSE JUST READ DID.
>> BUT THE COUNTY ROADS FOR SURE.
>> AND REMEMBER WE ARE MEETING WITH TXDOT PERIODICALLY.
WE ARE PUTTING PROJECTS BEFORE THEN.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER ROUTE THAT WE CAN USE WITH TXDOT.
WE CAN EXPLORE AND TALK WITH THE COUNTY COMPONENT OF THAT BUT THIS IS LIKE MOST CITIES AND COUNTIES WILL HELP WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN THE CITY PARTICULARLY IF THEIR COUNTY ROADS ANYWAY, SOMETIMES THERE ARE DEALS WHERE YOU SAY LOOK, WILL PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT HAVE YOUR PEOPLE -- IF IT IS APPROPRIATE BUT WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION.
>> IS A MAJOR ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PROBABLY MORE BENEFICIAL THAN A COUNTY ROAD THAT GOES TO FOUR
WE CAN POSE THAT QUESTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION RELEVANT TO COST WITHOUT KNOWING THE COST.
RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS THAT THE 2022 BUDGET INCLUDES 150,000.
SO, IS A MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED TO DO THIS? NSWER SAY, IF THIS BID, THIS COMPANY COMES IN AT 200, THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
THE REMAINING JUST I GUESS HYPOTHETICAL.
AT LEAST 150 OF IT HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED ALREADY, IS THAT
CORRECT OR NO? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> IT WAS AN IDEA AND WE'RE LIKE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, HOW
MUCH? >> AT LEAST WE HAVE AHEAD START RIGHT? LIKE ONE STEP FORWARD RIGHT? THEN TAKING THE SECOND STEP SO THAT'S GREAT.
I GUESS KIND OF LOOKING BACK, I KNOW THAT YOU WEREN'T HERE THEN AND HE SAID 2013 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THEY DID ONE OF THE
STUDIES OR ASSESSMENTS? >> YES.
>> WHAT WAS DONE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME ANYTHING DETAILED MAYBE JUST IF ANYTHING, EVERY YEAR, EACH YEAR WAS DONE, WHETHER IT WAS
SUBSTANTIAL OR NOT. >> THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2017 WAS A VISUAL SURVEY. SO SOMEONE WENT OUT AND EITHER WALKED OR DROVE THE STREETS AND DOCUMENTED ITEMS AND THEN CAME UP WITH A RATING. AND THEN THERE WAS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN DEVELOPED WITH SOME COSTS. YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WAS UTILIZED IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS, I'M REALLY NOT SURE.
BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING THE DATA COLLECTION AS WE ARE LOOKING TO DO, NOT ONLY DO YOU GET THE DATA, WE GET A LOT OF GIS DATA THAT WE CAN REALIZE CITY WISE.
>> TECHNOLOGIES OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN --
>> WITH THE LAST WILL JUST BASICALLY HAVE A SPREADSHEET, REPORT AND THE MAP. THIS TIME AROUND WE WILL HAVE
ACTUAL DATA. >> OKAY GREAT, THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ACTION.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF ONE IS SO --
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE SELECTED VENDOR FOR SAID SERVICES PREFERMENT-- PURSUANT TO RFQ. MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW THE PRICE I DO NOT SUPPORT THE ACTIVITY I GUESS, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT COST.
>> IF OVER BUDGET YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK, CORRECT?
>> YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU SIR.
>> THEY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK FOR THE CONTRACT ANYWAY.> I WILL SAY PART OF THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT GOES INTO BEING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED HOW THEY WILL BE DONE AND SCHEDULING, ALSO SOME DISCUSSION ON THE PRICING FOR THIS COMPANY THAT IT WILL BE LOOKED AT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOTHING OUT OF LINE AND IT'S PART OF THE
RESPONSIBILITY. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[11. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THAT BRINGS US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.IT IS 9:04PM WILL HEAD INTO LEGAL SESSION.
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RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUEST, POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUEST.11.2 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION DEFECTS IN THE BROOK LANDS SUBDIVISION INCLUDING POTENTIAL LITIGATION FOR REPAIR OF CONSTRUCTION DEFECTS.
ITEM 11.3, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.087 TWO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO BUSINESS PROSPECTS, INCLUDING DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE, SALE, EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072. FINALLY, 11.4, EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, SECTION 551.074, PERSONNEL MATTERS, CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE Ã CITY MANAGER, INTERIM CITY MANAGER. THE TIME
[12. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
>> IT IS 10:56 PM, WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. ITEM 12.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SEC. 551.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS, POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUESTS. . CONSIDERATION AND
ANYTHING THERE? >> WILL HAVE TO READ THEM LESS WERE TAKING ACTION.> IS ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ACTION?
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