15.4. Consideration and possible action on Executive Session in accordance with Texas Open Meetings Act Section 551.074, Personnel Matters: Closed Meeting to deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee - City Manager, Interim City Manager.

[15.4. Consideration and possible action on Executive Session in accordance with Texas Open Meetings Act Section 551.074, Personnel Matters: Closed Meeting to deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee - City Manager, Interim City Manager.]

IT IS 8:01 PM, WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION NOTHING WAS TAKEN FRACTION. NEXT CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION EXECUTIVE SESSION. IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT SECTION 551.074, PERSONAL MATTERS CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, CITY MANAGER AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER. ANY ACTION FROM --

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND ENTER INTO EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH JAMES EARP AS A NEW CITY MANAGER.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND, AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO REQUEST CITY STAFF TO RELEASE THE CONTRACT AFTER EXECUTION.

>> THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WANT TO SAY IS JUST THAT IT WAS A VERY OPEN PROCESS. WE HAD GREAT CANDIDATES IT CAME OUT AND WE THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT THAT WAS PUT FORWARD. I THINK WE HAVE A NEW CHAPTER IN HUTTO AND IT'S VERY EXCITING.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE OTHER CANDIDATES THAT WE HAD. WE HAD FOUR EXCELLENT CANDIDATES WHO CAME AND INTERVIEWED AS PART OF THE PROCESS ONE WEEK AGO. I PERSONALLY, REALLY ENJOYED THE TIME I WAS ABLE TO SPEND WITH THEM IN GETTING TO KNOW THEM. THEY DID NOT MAKE IT EASY BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE PICKED THE BEST PERSON FOR LEAVING HUTTO INTO THE NEXT DECADE I HOPE. SO, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE REALLY WANTED TO THINK THE OTHER CANDIDATES FOR THEIR TIME

AND WANTING TO COME TO HUTTO. >> SECOND THE MAYOR PRO TEM COMMENTS. I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS FROM THE CITIZENS ON WHAT THIS CONTRACT INCLUDES.

AS EXECUTED, WILL BE A START DATE OF AUGUST 3, PAY FOR THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE $240,000 A YEAR.

HE WILL HAVE HEALTH, DENTAL, VISION, DISABILITY, LIFE INSURANCE AS IS REGULARLY PROVIDED TO OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES.AND WE ARE PUTTING $20,000 TOWARDS HIS MOVING EXPENSES IN TERMS OF GETTING HIM TO MOVE TO HUTTO, INSIDE CITY LIMITS WHERE HE WILL HAVE 12 MONTHS TO FIND, TO ESTABLISH RESIDENCY IN THE CITY. OVERALL, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE A GREAT CANDIDATE. A GREAT CITY MANAGER.

[11.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 2022-064 approving and confirming term expiration dates and seat numbers for City board, commission, and task force members. (Mayor Pro Tem Peter Gordon and Councilmember Krystal Kinsey). (Part 1 of 2)]

ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM COUNSEL? OKAY WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 11.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO.

2022-064 APPROVING AND CONFIRMING TERM EXPIRATION DATES AND SEAT NUMBERS FOR CITY BOARD, COMMISSION, AND

TASK FORCE MEMBERS. >> MAYOR, THIS WAS AN ITEM I ORIGINALLY WANTED TO PRESENT ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

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I DELAYED IT BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY WAS NOT HERE AND WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

I HAD A LEGAL QUESTION. WE NEED TO APPROVE, BEFORE WE PROVE THIS TO BE NEED TO PROVE THE ORDINANCE MODIFYING THE

TERMS FOR DNI? >> YES BECAUSE THEN IT

[12.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. 2022-031 amending Section 2.02.203 of the Hutto Code of Ordinances to modify the staggered terms of the Diversity and Inclusion Commission. (Legal) (First Reading)]

REFLECTS THAT. >> OKAY MAYOR, COULD WE DO

ITEMS 12.1, 12.2 FIRST? >> YES ANY OBJECTIONS? ALRIGHT SO, TO ADD 12.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-031 AMENDING SECTION 2.02.203 OF THE HUTTO CODE OF ORDINANCES TO MODIFY THE STAGGERED TERMS OF THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION

COMMISSION. >> THE PURPOSE OF THIS ONE WERE ORIGINALLY WILL RESET THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION FOR WHATEVER REASON AT THE TIME, WE SET UP THOSE TERMS TO EXPIRE EVERY TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY THREE YEARS.

IT WAS KIND OF THE ONLY BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT WAS LIKE THAT. OTHER THAN THE TWO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAD THAT WERE REQUIRED TO BE TWO YEARS.

AND SO, MY PROPOSAL PROPOSING THIS TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS OFFICE. IT IS TO GET DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION IS LINED UP AND SYNCED UP TO EVERYONE ELSE WITH A THREE-YEAR TERM INSTEAD OF TWO-YEAR TERMS.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE 12.1 IS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON APPROVING 12.1 AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[12.2. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2022-031 to dispense with the second reading pursuant to Hutto City Charter Article 3, Section 3.13 (Legal)]

>> I AM MOVE TO DISPENSE A SECOND READING.

>> SECOND PAIR. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY.

DISPENSING OF THE SECOND READING.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. BRINGS US BACK TO ITEM 11.1.

>> BACK ON 11.1, THERE IS A SPREADSHEET AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, IT LISTS ALL OF THE CURRENT BOARD COMMISSION TASK FORCE MEMBERS, ALONG WITH DATES THAT THEY WERE APPOINTED AND THEN, THE PROPOSED SEAT NUMBER THAT THEY WOULD BE ASSIGNED IF YOU MAY RECALL, WE CHANGED THE PROCESS WHERE WE WENT TO A NOMINATING PROCESS THREE NOMINATING COMMITTEE RATHER THAN NOMINATED BY INDIVIDUALS. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE KIND OF GOT OFF ON WHO WAS APPOINTED WHEN.

IT WAS UNCLEAR FOR A GREAT NUMBER OF THESE APPOINTEES, WHETHER THEY WERE APPOINTED TO THEIR OWN THREE-YEAR TERM OR APPOINTED TO FILL THE REMAINDER OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S TERM.

IT WAS JUST REALLY UNCLEAR WHO WAS REALLY EXPIRING WHEN, WHAT SEATS WERE EXPIRING AND WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW.

AND SO, WHAT I DID WAS, I WENT THROUGH IT BASICALLY LOOKED AT THE LENGTH OF SERVICE AND KIND OF ALIGN THOSE UP WITH WHOSE TERM WOULD BE EXPIRING SOON OR, TO ALLOW PEOPLE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MONTHS OR YEARS TO SERVE.

I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY YOU KNOW, BE SERVING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE FILLING THE REMAINDER OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S TERM, WHO HAD RESIGNED.

THIS ALIGNS EVERYBODY UP BACK TO A SEAT NUMBER, 127.

AND THEN THE SEAT NUMBER, THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THAT SEAT WOULD BE LINED UP WITH THE SEAT NUMBERS ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

IN THAT WAY, WE CAN KEEP IT ALL STRAIGHT, WE CAN KNOW WHO IS WHAT AND WHEN SOMEONE IS APPOINTED TO A BOARD COMMISSION THEY ARE ASSIGNED THE NUMBER AND IT IS CLEAR WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES. THAT WAS KIND OF THE WORK WE WERE DOING. THERE ARE LIKE I SAID, TWO OF THE COMMISSIONS THAT BY STATE LAW, ARE REQUIRED TO BE TWO YEARS. EVERYTHING IS NOW WITH THE PASSING OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE A THREE-YEAR TERM.

SO. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL?

COMMENTS OR ACTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE 11.1 AS

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PRESENTED. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER

KINSEY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND PAIR.

>> SECOND, DO WE HAVE -- >> B&THANK MAYOR PRO TEM GORDO FOR ALL OF HIS WORK ON THIS. DEFINITELY A LABORIOUS PROCESS TRYING TO SIGN EVERYONE'S NAME AND DATE AND SO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE REALLY NEEDED TO HAVE THIS CLEANED P SO WE CAN MAKE APPROPRIATE APPOINTMENTS AND WE CAN KNOW WHICH SEAT AND WHAT TERMS AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS GETTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME ON EACH BOARD.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 2022-065 amending the City of Hutto's Public Improvement District Policy. (Legal, Ashley Bailey)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE A 11.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO.

2022-065 AMENDING THE CITY OF HUTTO'S PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT POLICY. I HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THAT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE OR AFTER THE PRESENTATION? AFTER? OKAY.

>> I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE A DUAL PRESENTATION BETWEEN US.

I CAN START OFF A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET.

THE POLICY WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN JULY 2020.

THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT OF THAT, WE DID GO OVER A FEW OF THE CHANGES IN YOUR PACKET. ONE OF THEM IS THAT -- MAKE REASONABLE I GUESS, EFFORT TO GET ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SIGN, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS REALLY JUST REDEFINES INSTRUMENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT ALSO MAKES IT I THINK WILL JUST GET A BETTER QUALITY WITH THIS.

A SET OF THREE COMMUNITY BENEFITS WE WANT MINIMUM OF FIVE, IF NOT ALL ON THE LIST. ONE OF THE ARTISAN LIST ADDED WAS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE VARIANCES.

AND THE ZONING WILL BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO THIS OF THE HEAVY ENTITLEMENTS COMING IN THIS IS NOT REALLY JUST TO GET

VARIANCES. >> SORRY.

>> YOU CAN HEAR ME? OKAY.

SO, THE OTHER PART THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET IS, WE DID A CHEAT SHEET DEFINITIONS, SO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND WHAT OUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS AND PLANNING TOOLS ARE NOT REALLY GOVERNED BY STATE JUST ZONING.

SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WE'VE ALL SEEN SOME OF THOSE COME THROUGH JUST HAD ONE COME THROUGH RECENTLY.

ALSO TIRZ. ALSO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REFER BACK TO ESPECIALLY TALK ABOUT THESE A LOT OF TIMES -- WILL BE A LOT OF FUN IN THE FUTURE WAS YOU GOING TO THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT FOR ZONING AND THEN WE GET INTO THOSE PUBLIC AND PERMANENT DISTRICT DOCUMENTS.

REALLY QUICK THIS IS ALSO A NEW PACKET THIS IS A REALLY QUICK SNIPPET OF HOW THE TIRZ DISTRICT WORKS WITH THE TAX FINANCING. THERE WE CAN GET INTO A FEW OF THE OTHERS THAT WE WILL BE SEEING COMING LIKELY THEY WILL BE BEFORE THAT WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALSO SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE THOSE IN FOR YOU AS WELL.

THERE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT AS I SAID EARLIER, A LOT OF THIS IS JUST REALLY STREAMLINING WHAT WE ALREADY HAD SO ANY PROPOSED PID HAS TO BE SUFFICIENT SUMMER PROBLEMS REQUIRES A DEVELOPER TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO BE THE PROJECT COST AND PRIOR EXPENSE DEVELOPING SIMILAR PROJECTS.

ENSURING DEVELOPER DOES NOT NEED MULTIPLE VARIANCES FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. SIGNAGE IS REQUIRED IN THE DISTRICT THE RESIDENTS SHOULD KNOW THEY IN THAT DISTRICT AND ALSO IN THE SALES OFFICE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE TIMES TO TRY AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

ALSO A CLAUSE THAT THERE IS DISSOLUTION OF THE PID IF IT DOES NOT OCCUR WITHIN THREE YEARS.

WE STILL HAVE -- >> IF YOU GO BACK ONE, HE SAYS WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE PID, IS THAT WHEN THEY TAKE UP THE FIRST BOND? WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF

OCCUR? >> START DATE.

>> APPROVAL. THEN THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE BONDS BUT WOULD JUST GET CANCELED.

QUICKLY APPROVE IT BUT THEY NEVER TAKE A BONDS WITHIN THREE

YEARS. >> WITHIN THE PID DISTRICT.

>> AND SOMETIMES A DEVELOPER MAY REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT WHICH THE BONDS WOULD BE ISSUED MAYBE AFTER THREE YEARS SO, THAT PROVISION MIGHT BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT.

>> OKAY. >> APPLICATION AND PROCESS

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WILL BE FAIRLY THE SAME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT FEE AGREEMENT AND THE FEE IS IN BEFORE WE START HAVING THE MEETINGS. A LOT OF IT STILL REMAINS THE SAME, REALLY PART OF IT IS SO THAT DEVELOPMENT IS PAYING FOR ITSELF AND NOT PUTTING THE CITY OUT TO PAY FOR THE LEGAL OR UPKEEP OF THE PID. I DID LIST OUT ALL THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THESE ARE IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY SHOULD BE ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL CREATE OR ENHANCE OR BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE. WE REALLY WHAT THE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES. THERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES AT THE END OF THE SLIDESHOW. IT COULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES ENHANCED WATER WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY, MINIS MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

WE HAVE VERY FEW OF THOSE RIGHT NOW USUALLY HAVE A POOL BUT WE LOOK AT DOING A LOT MORE ENHANCEMENTS.

ALSO ENHANCES TO THE PUBLIC ROADWAY NETWORK.

REALLY ANYTHING THAT COUNSEL CAN DECIDE ANYTHING THAT ENHANCES OR PROMOTES THE INTEREST OF THE CITY.

AND THERE IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART IN HERE, THE LAST FEW THAT WENT THROUGH, THE PER LOT COST WAS JUST, WHICHEVER CAME IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE ACTUALLY HAD A POLICY OF 5000 PER SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING.

THAT WOULD BE THE TIME OF FINAL PLAT.

SO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AS PART OF THIS DOCUMENT.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU JUST A FEW OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE ARE SEEING COMING UP IN TEXAS, THIS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY CLOSE SIX CREEKS IT'S IN KYLE, A MIX OF 50 TO 80 FOOT LOTS BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE MASTER PLAN IS NOT SMALL BUT THERE ALSO GETTING A LITTLE BIT LARGER LOT THAN WHAT WE ARE SEEING MOST ARE COMING IN AT 40 OR 45 FOOT. -- SAN MARCOS THIS IS MULTI FAMILY OF 300 MULTIFAMILY UNITS ARE SOME ZERO LOT LINES BUT ALSO 50 TO 70 FOOT LOTS. THERE STATE LEFT IN MAJORITY OF THE LOTS CANNOT REALLY SEE HERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ON YOUR SCREENS. THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS ARE 50 TO 70. EVEN FOR THE ZERO LOT LINES AND SOME SMALLER LOTS THINK IT WAS AT ZERO LOT LINE WAS LIKE 134 ON THEIR PLANS.HE LAST ONE, THE DALLAS AREA MUSTANG LAKES, IS THE MIX OF 40 FOOT TO ACRE LOTS WITH MAJORITY BEING 5060 AND 70. THE INTERESTING ONE ABOUT THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF AMENITIES THAT THEY HAVE, A FIVE EQUALLY, TENNIS AND BASKETBALL COURTS, AMPHITHEATER, A PRETTY EXPENSIVE POOL AND THE FRONT YARD MAINTENANCE IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE HOA FEE. OU'RE GETTING JUST A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF A DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

WE WANT TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP.

WE'VE HEARD YOU, WE'VE HEARD COUNSEL SAYING A LOT OF TIMES A PLANNING COMMISSION IS REWRITING THAT.

WE HOPE THIS POLICY HELPS TO SATISFY THAT IF WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION COMING IN PRODUCTION IS QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. >> DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO NOW OR WAIT UNTIL WE ARE DISCUSSING? [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

WE HAVE KEVIN PIERCE. >> THANK YOU.

MERIC, COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS KEVIN PIERCE, PARTNER WITH -- SINCLAIR. I AM A ATTORNEY FREQUENT FLYER HERE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. I'M HERE GENERALLY AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND KIND OF DEVELOPER SIDE OF THE CONSULTANTS AND ATTORNEYS.

WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CITY POLICY, WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND SOME CONCERNS WE WANT TO RAISE.

WE VERY MUCH THINK THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO HAS DONE SOME REALLY GOOD PID UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY WE DELIVERED THREE VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS. WE THINK THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLARIFICATION AND STREAMLINING.

BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A POLICY THAT BENEFITS THE CITY OF HUTTO FIRST AND FOREMOST, BUT ALSO IS VIABLE FOR DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY BRING THE PROJECT TO THE CITY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WITH MY TIME, I WANT TO DISCUSS THE $5000 FEE BECAUSE IT'S BY AND FAR, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ITEMS THAT IS GOING TO DRIVE DEVELOPMENT HERE OR

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DETER IT AWAY. I PROVIDED TO COUNSEL, MY RESEARCH ON PID FEES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND AREA AROUND THE HUTTO. YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART, THERE ARE A RANGE OF PER LOT FEES AS WELL AS CALCULATION BASED ON MANY CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS DO A FEE THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO 10 PERCENT OF WHATEVER THE NET BOND PROCEEDS ARE.

THAT WAY KIND OF SCALES WITH THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT BUT I'VE CALCULATED THAT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS THAT WERE IN THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE CITY OF MUSTANG RIDGE AND LIBERTY HILL, WITH THOUSAND DOLLAR PER LOT FEES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY OF ANNA AND HORSESHOE BAY WITH $3400 FEES. THERE IS A PRETTY WIDE RANGE, BUT THE HUTTO PROPOSED COST OF $5000 MINIMUM, IS BY AND FAR THE LARGEST MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEN I HAVE ADDITIONALLY PROVIDED OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE FEES AS PART OF THEIR PID POLICIES OR PRACTICES.

>> QUESTION. YOUR AVERAGE, TO INCLUDE OR

EXCLUDE THE HUTTO PROPOSED? >> IT EXPLODES THE PROPOSED

AMOUNT FOR THE 5000. >> ONE OF THE SMALL NOTE ON THE JURISDICTION FOR THE FEES. THERE ARE FOUR WITH ASTERISKS.

CEDAR PARK, ROUND ROCK, TAYLOR AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

IF ACTUALLY NOT PROCESSED A APPLICATION OF NONE ACCULTURATED A FEE BUT I WANT TO INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE SOME OF YOUR CLOSEST NEIGHBORS.

I DIDN'T WANT COUNSEL TO SEE A GAP THERE AND NOT KNOW WHERE YOU SIT. CURRENTLY, BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM SOME DEVELOPERS, THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT FEES RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE PID FEES -- PRETTY HIGH BASED ON SOME NEWS ARTICLES I'VE SEEN IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AT THE GROUND 19 THOUSAND AND SO, THE COST TO DEVELOP IN THE CITY OF HUTTO IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY. AS WE ENTER THIS MARKET WITH HIGHER INTEREST RATES ARE RISING IN THE BOND MARKET AS WELL AS SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, MATERIAL COSTS AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. IT IS BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES, BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD COMMUNITIES. IN INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF THE PID FEE, I'M SIGNIFICANTLY CONCERNED THAT IT IS GOING TO PUSH DEVELOPMENT WAY TO OTHER AREAS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS I WANTED TO NOTE WAS, THERE ARE COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE POLICY REQUIREMENT SUCCUMB WITH THE PETITION. SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE SOME REQUESTS FOR ENGINEER REPORTS OR DEMONSTRATIONS OF INTEREST SUCH AS LETTERS OF INTENT OR CONTRACT WITH EARNEST MONEY.

SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE LITTLE BIT CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT THE STAGE REQUESTING A PID THE DEVELOPERS TRYING TO GET THE FINANCING TO MAKE THE PROJECT PENCIL OUT.

AND SOME OF THAT MATERIAL IS JUST SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BE IN PLACE. BUT I AM HAPPY TO DIVE INTO ANY OF THE SPECIFICS. AND BE ABLE TO HELP OUT.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE THING I SAW IN THE NEW POLICY THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS, THE INCLUSION OF PID PETITIONS BEING BROUGHT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PRIOR TO GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT BASED ON AGAIN, JUST MY RESEARCH, THERE WILL BE A FIRST FOR ANY JURISDICTION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO DO.

PLANNING AND ZONING RESPONSIBILITIES TYPICALLY WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING FOR PROPERTY, A PID IS A FINANCING MECHANISM AND SO, QUESTION ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE PROCESS ASIDE FROM GETTING ANOTHER GROUP KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PROJECT WE TYPICALLY WILL HAPPEN ALREADY BECAUSE MOST OF THE PROJECTS REQUIRE ZONING OR PIDS WHICH PLANNING AND ZONING LIVE LOOK AT AS LONG AS A PLOT PROCESS.

NEXT, THE, ACTUALLY MENTION THE APPLICATION FEE.

DEVELOPERS ARE HAPPY TO PAY THESE APPLICATION FEES AND PAY THE DEPOSITS SO DEVELOPMENT DOES PAY FOR ITSELF THAT THE CITY AND ITS STAFF ARE NOT ON THE HOOK, WE WOULD ASK FOR TWO THINGS ON THAT. ONE, CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE FEE AMOUNT IS. IT IS NOT LISTED IN THE POLICY ANYWHERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

AND NUMBER TWO, IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN APPLICATION FEE THAT IS TYPICALLY NONREFUNDABLE APPLICATION FEE THAT GOES WITH THE PETITION FOR THE INITIAL REVIEW.

THEN AFTER THAT, THE DEVELOPER DEPOSIT AGREEMENT WHERE THE DEVELOPER PUTS MONEY WITH THE CITY TO BE HELD IN ESCROW THAT

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IS PULLED OUT OVER TIME. JUST SO YOU KNOW THE RULES OF THAT PROCESS. ONE OTHER KEY ITEM THAT WE WANT TO NOTE, THIS IS, IT'S ON THE REDLINE COPY PAGE 13 UNDER THE SECTION ENTITLED FINANCIAL LIMITATIONS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. ITEM 13.

THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BONDS IS THAT NO OUTSTANDING BONDS WERE IN DEFAULT. IN THE RESERVE FUND ESTABLISHED OUTSTANDING BONDS DRAWN UPON THE NOT BEEN REPLENISHED.

THAT IS ALSO A CONCERN FOR DEVELOPERS.

PARTICULARLY BECAUSE ON THE MULTISTAGE PROJECTS FOR EXAMPLE, LENORE, BROOKE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE DOING THREE STAGE PROCESS AND, THEY'VE SOLD A LOT ALREADY, THEIR PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PID MOVING IN AND PAYING THEIR ASSESSMENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING BONDS FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD PHASE IN THE FUTURE. BASED ON THE READING OF THE RULE, OF THAT REQUIREMENT, IF ONE OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT LENORE HAS NO CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY DO IF THEY PAY THEIR ASSESSMENTS, IF THEY DEFAULT ON THEIR ASSESSMENTS, IT IS A PENALIZATION ON THE NOR THE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED. ADDITIONALLY, THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT A MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY WAS RAISED BY SEVERAL OF MY CLIENTS AND DEVELOPERS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS.

IT CAN BE DEFINED IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE SAW SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE THAT CONCEPT THAT WE ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF GOOD PROJECTS THAT RING A DISTINCT VALUE TO THE CITY.

BASED ON A MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY.

THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, DOES THAT MEAN THE CITY OF HUTTO ONLY ONCE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS? WE UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE A FULL COMMERCIAL PROJECT IS THAT YOU KNOW THE CITIES TASTE BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MIXED-USE PROJECTS.

THERE IS A REQUEST FILED THAT INCLUDES A PROJECT WITH RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL COMPONENT ALONG THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. WE WANT TO KNOW IF THAT PROJECT IS STILL ON THE TABLE. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE ARE THREE PETITIONS I BELIEVE THAT EVERY BEEN FILED WITH THE CITY.

A COUPLE WHICH HAVE BEEN ON FILE FOR ABOUT 10 MONTHS NOW.

KNOW FOR FACT ONE OF THEM WAS SUBMITTED IN SEPTEMBER 2021. VERY EAGER TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND THE QUESTIONS ALSO BEEN RAISED, YOU KNOW, IF THIS POLICY, WHEN THE AMENDMENT IS PASSED, TO WHAT EXTENT OF THE NEW RULES APPLICABLE TO THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON FILE AND WAITING TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON AS WELL.

IF THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE ABOUT SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE POLICY AND YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW OUR VIEW ON IT, WE ARE, RICK AND I ARE BOTH HERE TO PROVIDE YOUR THOUGHTS AND ANY ASSISTANCE WE CAN TO THE COUNCIL.

OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR KEVIN? WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, KEVIN. OPEN FOR COUNSEL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO START BY PLACE AND GO THROUGH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE?

>> I WILL START. HOW DO WE COME TO THE $5000

NUMBER? >> THAT WAS DONE ONE OF THE MEETINGS WERE ALL STUFF WAS IN THERE.

I THINK FIVE OF US, -- >> I THINK THE DURANGO DEVELOPMENT IS EQUIVALENT TO 5000 PER LOT.

>> IT WAS NOT JUST SOMETHING WE PULLED OUT OF THE AIR WAS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT WE WERE

GETTING SO FAR. >> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PIDS?

WHAT WERE THEIR PER LOT? >> ECK GAVE INFORMATION.

I DON'T THINK THAT A COMMUNITY BENEFIT BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TO LIKE, IT WASN'T PER LOT AND ONE OF THE PIDS IS ALSO A CO-OP AREA. THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT BASED ON SINGLE-FAMILY OR HOUSE --

SORRY. >> WE DID AMEND AND RESTATE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS NEGOTIATED FEES.

ONE PID WAS $2 MILLION. ONE WAS 500,000.

AND THEN, DURANGO WAS MORE. I THINK DURANGO IS THE HIGHEST.

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>> AND WE CAN GAVE THE BREAKDOWN.

>> ALSO IF I COULD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE KEVIN -- NOT HEADING ABOUT THE PLAN COMMISSION I BELIEVE IS NOT THE PETITION IS JUST THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THERE KIND OF IN THE REALM OF RECOMMENDING DEVELOPMENT SO IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THEM ON SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC. IT WILL BE EVERY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT JUST SPECIFIC TO PIDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SORRY PLANNING COMMISSION CAN GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY DOES MEET ALL THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

BUT IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDATION ONLY COUNSEL HAS THE FINAL

DECIDING. >> THERE IS A CITY IN TEXAS THAT REQUIRES ALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND THAT IS DRIPPING SPRINGS.

ALSO, TO OTHER PARKS BOARD TO LOOK AT THE PARKS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROJECT. THAT IS NOT UNUSUAL.

>> ACTUALLY, JUST TO GO BACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT SAYS HERE HAVE THE PETITION AND DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REVIEWED BY PLANNING ZONING FOR THE POSITION AND DRAFT

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> I WAS TO THE PETITION WILL BE ATTACHED TO BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC NOTICES WAS TO ONLY BE

REQUIRED OF THE COUNCIL. >> WOULD THAT BE WHEN THEY --

ONE OR TWO MEETINGS? >> I THINK WOULD JUST BE ONE

FOR RECOMMENDATION. >> AND THE REASON WHY WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS, WILLS HAVE PROVISIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON CONTROLS AND SO, WHEN WE APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS A CONCEPT PLAN ATTACHED.

THAT IS LIKE THE FIRST PERMIT IN A SERIES OF PERMITS.

YOU ESSENTIALLY LOCKING IN THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

CITY COUNCIL STILL HAS DISCRETION TO DO ZONING THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CONCEPT PLAN.

BUT THE EARLIER WE CAN EVOLVE PLANNING AND ZONING AND GET THEIR COMMENTS SO THAT WHEN THE ZONING GOES THROUGH BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, EVERYBODY HAS HAD THEIR INPUT AND WE DON'T GET A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE CONCEPT PLAN AND WHAT ZONING EVENTUALLY IS

APPROVED. >> ARETE COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON,

OTHER ITEMS? >> NOT AT THIS TIME.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORTON? >> JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT.

HE SAID THEY WOULD HAVE ADVISORY ONLY, IT WOULD BE LIKE A DENIAL JUST, WE'RE NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS OR SOMETHING.

BUT NO MATTER WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ALWAYS

GOING TO BE TO COUNSEL. >> AND VISION IT WILL BE COMMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT NOT DENIAL OR THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO JUST BE, HERE THE COMMENTS WERE FROM STAFF AND FROM PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE, THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW.> AS SOMEONE WHO SERVED ON PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THREE YEARS, I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT PORTION OF IT. BUT I DO AGREE IT NEEDS TO JUST BE RECOMMENDATION THING, NOT DENIAL BECAUSE I WANT TO EXTEND TIME FOR THE DEVELOPER. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PER LOT FEE. I THINK HAVING A FIXED NUMBER THAT IS OUT THERE THAT IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT, EVEN IF OTHERS DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL FEE, BUT ENDS UP THAT THERE BENEFITS HIGHER WHICH I THINK IS TRUE, BUT THE PERCEPTION CAN BE THAT HUTTO IS SAYING WITH THIS, WE DON'T WANT PIDS BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN OF YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED AS MY WRONG OPINION FROM HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BUT I JUST WANT TO, THUS MY ONLY

CONCERN. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. I THINK TO THE POINT WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION BACK TO SHEA WITH A LOT BREAKDOWN IS RIGHT NOW, AND HOW WE CAME UP WITH ON STAFF.

THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WAS JUSTIFIED.

I APOLOGFOR NOT HAVING IN THE PACKET TODAY.

>> AND I WANT TO DIRECTED TO PAGE 5. YOU CAN SEE THE DIVISION DEFINITION. SAYS PROVIDE FOR COMMUNITY BENEFIT SO DOESN'T PREVENT THE DEVELOPER TO SAY THAT 5000 PER LOT IS TOO HIGH FOR MY PARTICULAR PROJECT.

SAY THEY ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

THAT MIGHT BE NOT SOMETHING BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

SO THIS IS A POLICY AND GUIDELINE, IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE $5000. THE DEVELOPER MAY COME AND SAY, YOU NEED THIS OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENT, AND WILLING TO BUILD IT SINCE I'LL HAVE MY CRUISE THERE SO IT TAKES AWAY

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THE CITIES COST OF HAVING TO BID OUT AND GO THROUGH YOU KNOW, THE BIDDING PROCESS, TAKING ALL THAT TIME.

THE DEVELOPER CAN SAY LET ME DO THIS OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENT, IS EQUIVALENT OF 5000 PER LOT BUT BECAUSE IT WILL BE A COST SAVINGS TO AND STAFF SAVINGS WHEN I EXTEND MAYBE IT'S A DRAINAGE OR YOU EXTEND A TRAIL SYSTEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THEY CAN COME AND SHOW HOW IT'S COMPARABLE.

AND HOW THE CITY RECEIVES THE COMPARABLE BENEFIT, EVEN THOSE

NOT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR HARDLINE. >> I WILL ALSO ADD, JUST THE LOT FEES, THE LOT FEE IS MORE OF A PROBLEM ON THE SMALL LOT SIZE THAN ON THE LARGE LOT SIZE.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE LOT SIZES THAT ARE LARGE.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL 70 FOOT LOT SIZES -- TO GET THE SAME TOTAL BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH HIGHER PER LOT FEE.

-- I THINK IN A WAY, THIS IS ENCOURAGING.

>> I CAN SEE THAT. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> NO. >> MAYOR PRO TEM?

>> I WAS INITIALLY CONCERNED WITH LOT FEE, SO GRATEFUL FOR THE DISCUSSION WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.

I DO NOT WANT THE LOT FEE TO BE A DEFECT OR DISCOURAGEMENT OF PIDS. WE SET UP SO HIGH THAT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY SAYING WE DON'T WANT IT, DIDN'T WANT THAT PEOPLE CAN DEFINITELY GET THE RESEARCH DONE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND I REALLY LIKE THE COUNCILMEMBER THORTON 'S POINT.

THIS IS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE BIGGER LOT SIZES.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS ENVISIONED A PID BEING.

IS THERE TO MAKE A PHENOMENAL AREA IN THE CITY, WHERE PEOPLE JUST SAY, I WANT TO MOVE THERE AND I'M WILLING TO PAY THE EXTRA 37 EQUIVALENT TAX BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE AWESOME AMENITIES, THEY HAVE THE BIGGER LOT SIZES, THEY HAVE HIGHER BUILDINGS WHATEVER IT IS. WHEN I LOOK AT WHETHER I WANT TO LIVE IN A PID THAT'S WHEN LOOKING AT.

WHAT IS MY BENEFIT AS A RESIDENT GOING TO BE? WHY WOULD I PAY THAT EXTRA EQUIVALENT TAX TO LIVE THERE? AND IF IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME HOME AND IS THE SAME BUILDER AND THE SAME LOT SIZES WHERE I'M LIVING AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME AMENITIES, I CAN'T FATHOM WHY ANYONE WOULD WANT TO MOVE THERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

I REALLY LIKE HAVING ME EXTRA BENEFITS AND HERE IT REALLY KIND OF OUTLINING, THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISION.

I REALLY LOVE THAT PART OF IT SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

I LIKE KEVIN'S COMMENT ABOUT ASKING ABOUT THE MIXED-USE PROJECTS. IT DID SEEM LIKE WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS THAT WAS REALLY GEARED TOWARD RESIDENTIAL PIDS.HERE'S A WAY WE CAN CLARIFY MAYBE SOME PORTIONS OF THAT OUTLINE, HERE IS WHAT A MIXED-USE PID WOULD LOOK LIKE AND ADJUSTED THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THEN I GUESS I COULD HAVE ASKED THIS BUT YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS YOU FELT WERE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. HAVE YOU SHARED THOSE KEVIN, WITH STAFF? ARE THEY AWARE OF WHICH ONES

THOSE ARE? >> YES.

DADDY CIRCULATED THIS, MYSELF AND SOME OTHERS DID PASS ON THE

FEEDBACK. >> OKAY, CAN YOU GIVE US ONE

OR TWO EXAMPLES? >> SURE! IF YOU FLIP TO PAGE NUMBER TWO OF THE PETITION ITEM NUMBER THREE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, PHASE THE PROJECT AND ENGINEERING IN FORM OF A ENGINEERING REPORT IF AVAILABLE. THAT'S KEY BECAUSE THE ENGINEER REPORT TYPICALLY IS NOT GOING TO GET REPAIRED THAT EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU FLIP TO LET ME FIND MY PAGE HERE. I HAVE THIS MARKED DOWN

SOMEWHERE. >> IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT THAT'S

FINE. >> THERE IS ALSO SOMETHING SIMILAR. STATEMENTS OF INTEREST IN THE PROJECT. LETTERS OF INTENT FROM -- AND

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PREFERENTIAL FACTORS. PAGE 10 OF THE REDLINE.

PETITIONER CAN DEMONSTRATE INDICATION OF DEMAND, LETTERS OF INTENT, -- PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. A DEVELOPER IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET COMMITMENTS FROM POTENTIAL BUYERS, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR BASIC FINANCING IN PLACE TO SHOW THE PROJECT IS

VIABLE AND GOING TO HAPPEN. >> AND IT WOULD BE TYPICAL AND IT IS TYPICAL THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THAT THERE IS NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS, NO ASSESSMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE LEVY WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION AT THE TIME A FULL ENGINEER REPORT BUILDER CONTRACT, TO EXPECT THOSE BEFORE EVEN DISCUSSION OF THE POTENTIAL PID IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

IN TERMS OF THE FEES, I'LL GO BACK TO SCHEDULE THAT KEVIN DISTRIBUTED. WE DID CALCULATE FOR THE THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE PAID OR WILL PAY $2 MILLION EACH IN HUDDLE, EQUATES TO ABOUT $2100 PER RESIDENTIAL LOT.

SO WE HAVE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION.

>> ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THAT IS THE QUESTION I

HAVE. >> THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR DOING THIS AND LISTENING TO COUNSEL.

I THINK THIS WILL BEEN ASKING WHATEVER PIDS KEEP COMING UP, THEY SEEM TO BE MORE FREQUENT NOW.

WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MORE STIPULATIONS, MORE ACTUAL COMMUNITY BENEFITS VERSUS THE DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITS OWN STREETS AND DRAINS WERE LOOKING FOR THINGS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. AND THEREFORE, THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THE COST OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER HIGHER.

I PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, WE DO NOT NEED PIDS. A RELATIVELY NEW FINANCING MECHANISM AND THERE ARE GOOD PIDS AND BAD PIDS BUT A FRECKLE OF THIS POLICY REALLY MAKES THAT MORE CONCRETE IN SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THERE IS MUCH MORE RED TAPE INVOLVED AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE WORK ON THE DEVELOPERS.

WE TALKED ABOUT WANTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HONESTLY, ELECTRONS WITH THESE PIDS THE AD VALOREM TAXES, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE AT ALL. IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT A NICER PRODUCT AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THAT NICER PORTION. ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT VERSUS JUST PAYING FOR THE STREETS AND ROADS AND IN NORMAL DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO DO ANYWAYS.

BUT THEN CALLING A PID -- I DO THINK THERE ARE GOOD ONES BUT ALSO BAD ONES. AND IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW FINANCING MECHANISM, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE KIND OF FLOCKING TOWARDS IT.

FOR ME IT KINDA MAKES ME THINK, I WONDER WHY? THERE MUST BE MORE BENEFIT TO THEM AT LEAST FINANCIALLY.

SO IF IT MAKES THEM HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT COMING TO HUTTO AND PLANNING OUT MORE AND HAVING MORE OF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, I AM PERSONALLY ALL FOR IT AND I FELT THIS IS WHAT WE BEEN DIRECTING STAFF, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE'VE BEEN ASKING. THANK YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, DESPITE MEAT MORBID DADDY QUESTION, AS FAR AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, SENIOR HOUSING ETC., IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE REQUIREMENT?

>> I THINK WE JUST MOVED IT UP THE CAN'T BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COME FORWARD WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, THERE MAY BE A LOT OF BENEFIT THAT THE CITY WILL GET BECAUSE IT IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. AND SO YOU MAY NOT SEE YOUR PER LOT FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ON PAGE 5, NUMBER EIGHT, YOU CAN IDENTIFY PROJECT THAT PROMOTES INTEREST OF THE CITY, THE PROJECT CONFERS A SPECIAL BENEFIT. YOU COULD SAY IF SOMEONE HAD SOME MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, AND A PART OF THE CITY WERE YOU FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED THAT DENSITY AND YOU KNOW WHATEVER THEY WERE BRINGING. YOU COULD, THEY CASSANDRA NUMBER EIGHT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL, NOT MASTER PLAN, NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE SPECIAL BENEFIT IN THE AREA.

LIVE/WORK UNITS, THINGS IN THEIR THAT ARE UNIQUE.

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THAT HUTTO DOESN'T HAVE. THAT WOULD BE IN A NUMBER EIGHT. WE DID TRY TO PUT FLEXIBILITY IN THE POLICY. NOT TO SAY HERE IS A REQUIREMENT IF YOU CANNOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT, YOUR PETITION WILL BE DENIED.THE PETITION IS ALWAYS DISCRETIONARY.

EVEN IF THEY MEET THE HIGHER POLICY, THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT A PID OR NOT. YOUR COUNSEL GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY ON PAGE 13 NUMBER 13 HAVE TO RUN THAT BY THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR. THAT WAS IN OUR PREVIOUS POLICY. THAT'S NOT REALLY A CHANGE AND I'LL TAKE THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WATCHING OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH SOME OF THE PROPOSED POLICIES THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING AND AMENDING. TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION FEE, ONCE HE IS HAVING A 25,000 NONREFUNDABLE REVIEW FEE.

AND SO, TO LOOK THE DEVELOPER NO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T YOU KNOW, MEET THE INTEREST OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

AND CONFER SPECIAL BENEFIT IS JUST REALLY A SPECIAL SUBDIVISION LIKE ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION.

SO, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BASED ON THE COMMENTS ON WHAT WOULD AN APPLICATION FEE BE?

>> I KNOW THIS IS ON SINGLE FAMILY, DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR MULTIFAMILY OR WHAT IT WOULD BE?

OR DO WE KIND OF -- >> NO, NOT IN THIS POLICY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I THINK THEY WILL BE TO THE DISCRETION OF THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT.

>> AND IT WOULD FALL INTO MASTER PLAN.

YOU MIGHT HAVE A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES.

ONE OF WHICH MAY BE MULTIFAMILY.

>> I THINK ONE EXAMPLE HAS MULTIFAMILY AND UP TO ACRES.

YOU CAN HAVE DEFINITELY -- >> IN THE POLICY CURRENTLY, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF LANDOWNERS I HAVE TO SIGN OFF?

IS IT 51? >> THE CURRENT POLICY JUST

SAYS, TRY TO GET ALL OF THEM. >> THE CURRENT POLICY MIRRORS A STATE LAW WHICH IS 50 PERCENT.T LEAST 50 PERCENT.

>> I REALLY LIKE THAT IS DEFINITELY MORE THAN 50 PERCENT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH AVAILABLE LAND AROUND HUTTO ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING CUT OUT OF THAT IF BASICALLY NOTICED WHEN IT COMES BEFORE US.

THAT HAPPENED THAT COVERED BRIDGE THE ONLY NOTE FOR THE CHURCH AND THE CHURCH HAD 51 PERCENT AND IT DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE LAND OWNER IN THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDED THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO, I'M NOT SURE IF 100 PERCENT IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION WOULD HAVE BEEN DOABLE. BUT I THINK MORE THAN 50 PERCENT NEEDS TO DEFINITELY BE DONE.

I JUST PERSONALLY KNOW THE PARTICULAR INSTANCE AND IT WAS REALLY SAD. AND HONESTLY, HUTTO HAS BEEN SO BEHIND ON FEES. WE ARE ALWAYS KIND OF CATCHING UP ON FEES AND ALWAYS MISSING OUT ON FEES.

SO I MEAN, IF WE END UP BEING AT THE TOP FOR A YEAR OR TWO, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ALREADY STARTING TO REEVALUATE AND MAKE THOSE ASSESSMENTS.

SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST BEING HEAD AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE BIT. HUTTO HAS BEEN SO BEHIND FOR SO LONG. THOSE ALL OF MY COMMENTS.

>> AND WE CAN GO BACK TO POINT WHERE YOU SAID THAT THEY DO SOME OF THE BENEFIT -- WE STILL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AS A

COUNSEL. >> DEFINITELY.

>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WAS PUT IN PLACE.

IS THERE A REASONING BEHIND WHY THE CITY IS WANTING TO AMEND

THE POLICY? >> I THINK FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IT'S MORE SO THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS STRONG ENOUGH AND WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER THE SECOND TIME AROUND. I THINK IT WAS A GOOD POLICY TO START BECAUSE WE WERE JUST DOING THEM PRIOR TO THE POLICY BUT I THINK IT WAS A GREAT FIRST -- HAVING LEGAL LOOK AT IT AND THERE IS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE WITH PID PULSES WERE TO BE MISSED AND WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING THE OTHERS ARE DOING.

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WE CAN SEE WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING ACROSS THE STATE AND TRY TO DO THAT LITTLE BIT MORE AND BE OUT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

>> HAVE YOU WILL SEE AN INFLUX IN PID APPLICATIONS? OR PETITIONS? WANTING TO COME TO HUTTO?

>> IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, YES. >> I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY CANNOT GIVE ME NUMBER BUT I GUESS LIKE, IN A YEAR.

>> AT FIGURE 5 IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE HAVE SOME PENDING RIGHT NOW BUT I BELIEVE ONE WAS CANCELED.

-- >> THERE ARE THREE PENDING.

UT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN APPROVED I GUESS, UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY?

>> OUR POLICY THREE. >> OKAY.

>> SEE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MUCH INFLUX OR AS I CONSIDER A

LOT? >> I WOULD SAY THIS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH AND THE SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENTS THAT WANT THIS INTIMATE MAJORITY ARE DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW.

>> SO, WITH THE COMMUNITY, -- IT SAYS THAT A MINIMUM OF 5000 PER HOUSEHOLD. IS A SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN INCREASE?ND OF COURSE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL THEN APPROVE IT. CAN IT POTENTIALLY GO UP FROM THE 5000? BECAUSE IT IS SET AT A MINIMUM

OF 5000. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR TO THE DISCRETION DOESN'T LIE WITH STAFF WILL BE MORE WITH COUNSEL. IF THE FEE WAS GOING TO LISTEN MORE WE MIGHT GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS IF THERE WERE NO AMENITIES MAY BE IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT WOULD BE MORE BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS MASTER PLAN AND HAS THE AMENITIES, IT TRULY IS LIKE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO ALL OF THE THINGS. LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID THAT WE SHOWED YOU THEN MAYBE IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE 5000.

THAT WOULD BE A COUNSEL DISCRETION.

>> AND I GUESS IS FOR DOTTIE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO 5000 WE COULD DO IN LIEU OF, RIGHT? WHAT IS IT, THE SOMETHING COMPARABLE, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL? OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR EIGHT POINTS THAT WE HAVE WEIGHED OUT. WHAT IT IS.

AND THEY MEET THE STANDARDS BUT WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE 5000 PER HOUSEHOLD.

SO, WHO DETERMINES THAT, DOES THE DEVELOPER COME TO CITY COUNCIL? OR DOES CITY COUNCIL SAY HEY, THIS IS IN LIEU OF 5000 PER HOUSEHOLD.

WE LIKE TO SEE IF PARKER MEAN THAT'S OUTLANDISH OF COURSE BUT HOW CAN WE DEFINE SOMETHING THAT IS COMPARABLE COMMUNITY

BENEFIT? >> ONE THING WE LOOKED AT AS A STAFF IS, MOST OF THE MONEY SPENT WITHIN PID ENTRY LOOKED OFF-SITE. IF THE DEVELOPER WAS SAYING I'M GOING TO PAY MORE MY FAIR SHARE OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO THE 5000.

IF THEY'RE EXTENDING A STREET OR DRAINAGE, OR EXTENDING A TRAIL CONNECTION TO CONNECT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, THOSE ARE

SOME EXAMPLES. >> THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, WHAT IS KIND OF REQUIRED, THAT IS ALREADY IN THE POLICY.

TO KIND OF GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THOSE ASPECTS.

>> RIGHT. IN OTHER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ANOTHER CITY THE DEVELOPER MADE A CASH CONTRIBUTION TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS DEVELOPMENT GOT WASTEWATER TREATMENT THAT HE NEEDED.

SO IT WOULD BE MORE DEVELOPER DRIVEN BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH, AND THEN SAY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS PER LOT FEE BUT I DO WANT TO DO THIS, IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUTSIDE THE PID AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE

COMPARABLE. >> AND THEN I GUESS, HAVING THIS NEW LANGUAGE, LOOKING AT OTHER PIDS, SO SOME LANGUAGE THAT IS COMPARABLE WHICH IS GREAT, ADDING IN THE LANGUAGE.

I GUESS WHICH COUNTY, CITIES, DID YOU KIND OF I GUESS, AS A BASELINE MAY BE COMPARABLE TO HUTTO? DID Y'ALL USE ANYTHING IS LIKE HEY, THIS IS WHAT CEDAR PARK

HAS. >> I KNOW I LOOKED A LOT OF THEM. FORT WORTH ACTUALLY HAS A LOT

OF PIDS. >> WERE FIRST TO THE POS WE HAD ABOUT 80. IT CAME UP THE FIRST POLICY AND WE HAD A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IN THE FIRST POLICY. THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MORE

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STAFF DRIVEN BASED ON COUNCIL COMMENTS.

BUT WE DID SEND THE DRAFT POLICY WITH THE RED LINE TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY COULD BRING FORWARD THEIR COMMENTS. AND WE DID CHANGE SOME OF THE PROVISIONS TO KIND OF MATCH WHAT THEIR COMMENTS WERE.

>> OKAY. AND THEN, LET'S SEE.

I KNOW THAT IN OUR SUMMARY, AND MENTIONED THAT IT STRIKES ACTUALLY IN THE LANGUAGE, THREE.

BUT THEN THE SUMMARY, HAVING THREE OF THE EIGHT QUALIFICATIONS REQUIREMENTS RATHER, SO, THE SUMMARY SAYS IT IS CHANGES IT FROM 3 TO 5. BUT IN THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE, IT STRIKES THREE BUT DOES NOT CLARIFY FIVE.

AND THEN IT KIND OF ELUDES TO HITTING ON EIGHT POINTS.SO I

GUESS, -- >> I CAN TELL YOU.

I WROTE THE STAFF REPORT THE DAY BEFORE THE FINAL HAD COME OUT AND THERE WAS FIVE AND THERE ONE POINT.

>> I THINK I JUST TOOK IT OUT. ARE YOU GOING TO DO A PID AND

HUDDLE -- >> I THINK I FINISHED MOST OF THE LITTLE EARLY BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS GOING TO BE OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR THE HOLIDAY. THAT WAS ALL IT REALLY WAS.

>> OKAY TOTALLY FINE. JUST LOOKING AT THE --

>> BECAUSE IS LANGUAGES SAYS WOULD REALLY PREFER TO HIT ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE EIGHT ITEMS.

AND GET THE HIGHEST. >> AND THEN, I ALSO DO HAVE A QUESTION ON PAGE 9, PART 21. IT SPEAKS TO NOTIFYING THE BUYER OF A PID PROPERTY AND MAKING THEM AWARE OF THIS ASSESSMENT WHICH I'M TOTALLY FOR THAT.

TRANSPARENCY, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO BUYING THE HOME.

BUT THEN IT INCLUDES LANGUAGE ABOUT INCLUDING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE PID. WHAT QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS WOULD THAT BE? IF IT IS IN THE CONTRACT, I GUESS, WHY QUESTION AND ANSWERS MAY BE JUST LIKE HIGHLIGHTING AND MAYBE -- LIKE HIGHLIGHTING AND MAKING SURE THIS COMMUNITY IS A PID. YOU ARE BUYING A HOME, YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT ON YOUR PROPERTY.

I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

>> FOR THAT I WOULD ENVISION MORE OF AN FAQ ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING THEY CAN PICK UP. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHAT IS A PID.

-- IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLANS HAVE FAQS WHAT IS THIS GO TO WHAT IS THE FEE AND WHAT IS THE PID AND WHAT DOES IT DO AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR ME? EVEN GOES INTO DESCRIBING THE ASSESSMENT CAN BE THINK WHAT ACTUALLY SAYS YOU CAN ROLL INTO MORTGAGE AND PAY FULFILL. THINGS LIKE THAT YOU CAN PAY IT OFF EARLY AND THINGS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND ALSO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE SALES OFFICE ALSO CANNOT -- TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS POINT YOU CANNOT SAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

>> AND AMENDMENTS A STATE LAW THAT PASSED LAST TIME, WHEN A BUYER COMES IN, BEFORE THIS ON THE CONTRACT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION SO THEY ARE AWARE IT IS A PID, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AND UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE ASSESSMENT. IT WAS TAKEN FROM THE STATE LAW AMENDMENTS. WE ENVISION THAT --

>> IS A DEVELOPER QUESTION AND ANSWER?

>> YES THE DEVELOPER WOULD DO THAT.

>> AND THEN, I GUESS JUST I GUESS SOME SMALL THINGS, JUST TO TIGHTEN IT UP ON PAGE 10. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DEFINING WHAT IS REQUIRED. PRIORITY WOULD BE GIVING -- GIVEN TO PETITIONS -- THEN IT LAYS OUT A 3G.

BUT THEN IT GOES ON TO NUMBER TWO, PROTECT AND PRESERVE EXISTING. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THIS IS CORRECT BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE H, NOT ANOTHER --

>> OKAY. >> THAT SHOULD BE H BECAUSE AS PART OF OUR -- WHAT WE ARE DEFINING.

BUT IF IT IS CORRECT MAYBE JUST GLANCE AT THAT.

AND THEN, THERE IS, THERE'S LIKE A LINK IN ONE OF THE

PAGES. >> I THINK THERE'S A LINK AT

THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN. >> YES PAGE 2 THERE'S A LINK

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THAT WAS A COPY AND PASTE HERE. AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

-- JUST TO TIGHTEN THAT UP. I GUESS THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE CONCERNS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE KIND OF AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR WITH OUR PID AND DEFINING APPLICATION FEE AND THEN, ALSO DEFINING MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> MR. MAYOR, BEFORE HE GIVE UP COMMENTS, CAN I HAVE ONE MORE?

>> YES SIR. >> ON PAGE 9, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER -- SABLE MET WITH REALTORS ASSOCIATION DURING THE PRE-ELECTION STUFF, THEY HAD A BUNCH OF COMMENTS ABOUT PID STUFF PIER 1 THE QUESTIONS WERE, HAVE YOU REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK FROM THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY WANTED SOME INSIGHT MORE TENDING UP ON THE CONSUMER SIDE. SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE NUMBER 21 ON PAGE 9. THEY WANTED TO BE SPECIFY THAT IT HAS TO BE LIKE THE FIRST PAGE OF THE CONTRACT, NOT BURDEN PAGE 23 OR WHATEVER AS IT IS NOW, OR CLICK UP THE DEVELOPER WHERE THEY STICK IT IN THE CONTRACT.

IF POSSIBLE TO DO THAT YOU KNOW THAT WAS MY ONLY OTHER FEEDBACK. IF WE REACHED OUT TO THE

DEVELOPERS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE REACHED OUT TO THEM BUT I WILL ASK DOTTIE IF WE CAN PUT THAT IN

THE POLICY. >> I THINK THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT IT HAS SOME VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD PREEMPT US FROM REQUIRING IT IN THE POLICY.

BUT IF YOU LIKE US TO, WE CAN FIND THAT.

>> JUST REACH OUT TO THEM, TO HAVE THEM GIVE COMMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM THE DEVELOPERS AND THE REALTORS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> GET READY TO START WRITING.

I'M GOING TO TALK FAST. KEVIN, MORE OF THESE WOULD JUST BE -- OVERALL I THINK THE AGREEMENT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS MADE IT EXTREMELY, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT WOULD DO A PID AND HUDDLE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS ARE AMBIGUOUSIN TERMS OF , YOU HAVE TO PAY A FEE, PUT MONEY UP AND THEN GO TO STAFF.THEN STAFF IS LOVE CONTROL BUT THEN COUNSEL HAS CONTROL BUT DEPENDING WHAT STAFF SAYS, YOU MIGHT HAVE ALL OF SOMEBODY'S MONEY THEY PUT UP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THERE SUPPOSED TO DO AND IT COULD JUST COME TO COUNSEL. IT GOES BACK TO LOW PROCESSING WE HAD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WITH THE DEVELOPER.

JUST COME TO THE COUNCIL FIRST AND SEE WHAT WE WANT THE STAFF KNOWS WHAT TO DO. THE WAY WE HAVE SET UP, STAFF WILL HAGGLE WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

AND THEY WILL COME TO COUNSEL WHEN THEY SHOOT IT DOWN.

OR WE MIGHT SAY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS OR WISH YOU WOULD'VE DONE THAT. I DON'T GET TO THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

I'M AWFUL NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GOING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING FIRST IS RECOMMENDED. IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO THE BOARD, IT OUGHT TO BE SOME SORT OF POWER TO IT.

THE DEVELOPER WORLD, IS JUST ONE MORE MEETING, ONE MORE THING TRYING TO GET ON THE AGENDA, ONE MORE DEAL TO GO THROUGH AND SO IF THEY MEET EVERYTHING THAT MEAN -- IS JUST MORE TIME, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE IS THAT IT ALREADY TAKES FOREVER TO GET TO THE SYSTEM.

ON THE PETITION THUS WE HAVE A COMMENT YOU HAVE ALL THIS MORNING SPENT, AND HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL -- I THINK WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN THINGS DOWN WHERE WE TAKE LESS GRAY AREA.

BECAUSE GRAY IN MY OPINION KILLS DEVELOPMENT TO BLACK-AND-WHITE YOU CAN PENCIL IT, YOU GOT IT MAKE SENSE.

BUT IF YOU SPEND, DO ENGINEERING REPORTS AND TWO, THREE, 400,000 INTO IT, AFTER YOU GET THE WHIM OF THE STAFF, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT PUSHING FOR MORE HOME DEVELOPER.

WE PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT.

BUT IF WE DID WANT MULTIUSE ON THIS PETITION NUMBER THREE, JUST LIKE AT THE END, IF AVAILABLE.

WHO DETERMINES IF AN ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT OR ENGINEER REPORT IS AVAILABLE? BECAUSE IF YOU ASK FOR IT AND I DIDN'T DO IT I'LL TELL YOU IS NOT AVAILABLE.

LET ME GET THE CHECK THAT BOX OFF? AND IF I DO, MIGHT AS WELL TAKE IT OUT OF THERE.

BEFORE EVEN PLOT PROPERTY HAS A DUAL FLOOD STUDY WHICH IS A NIGHTMARE. BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLOT PROPERTY IT'S A BOX TO CHECK. ANYTIME I SEE, IF AVAILABLE OR IF POSSIBLE, I THINK FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT.

WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP AND SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT OR DON'T.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IT WILL GET US IN TROUBLE.

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PAGE 3, REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, NUMBER THREE. IT DOES DOES NOT REQUIRE MULTIPLE VARIANCES. WHAT IS MULTIPLE? IS IT FOUR GIVE TOO MUCH FOR THREE IS NOT ENOUGH? OR YOU DON'T LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT -- SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER, I THINK YOU WOULD MAKE JUST -- STAFF TIME SO MUCH EASIER IF MORE OF THE STUFF IS SPELLED OUT IF YOU ARE MORE THAN FOUR VARIANCES CITY CAN ONLY OF TWO. SO WITH FOUR YOU COMMITTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE MAY SAY NO.

THAT IS ONE, NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITIES EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER -- IF I'M READING THAT RIGHT YOU CANNOT DO PID

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CCN. >>.

[INAUDIBLE] >> IS AS AND.

OR EXPAND. MY GUESS IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS EXACTLY. THAT IS NOT NEW LANGUAGE.

NUMBER NINE, INE, THE COMMENT, TRAIL SYSTEM GREEN SPACES PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, WHAT DOES ALL S MEAN? WHAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND IS A PERSON COMING IN TO SAY I'M GOING TO THE POLICE STATION HIS WORK AND CHECK THE BOX. THEN STAFF SAYS WE DON'T WANT ONE THERE. THEY SAY BUT I WANT TO BUILD ONE THERE.HAT IS ONE OF MY THINGS.

SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE HOW TO GET COMMUNITY BENEFITS BUT PEOPLE JUST NOT GIVING UP SCHOOL SITES BECAUSE REALLY THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE ALSO ASKING THEM TO GIVE US A SCHOOL SITE. BUT THEN THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND ISD AROUND WHERE YOU WANT THE SCHOOL SITE. DO YOU EVEN WANT ONE THERE? PAGE NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER EIGHT, PROJECTS AS IDENTIFIED BY CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, BY THE TIME YOU COME TO US, YOU DOING THE PETITION YOU SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ONLY TO FIGURE OUT THEN, WHAT PROJECTS CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIES AND HOW DOES IT HAPPEN BECAUSE I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DEVELOPER COME TO US FIRST WRITTEN OPINION WE WANT THEM TO COME LAST APPEAR TO HAVE A STAFF KNOW WHEN THE PROJECTS ONCE OR WHEN THEY CAN CHANGE FROM QUARTER TO QUARTER, ELECTION TO ELECTION.

THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE, NOTHING KEVIN DID HIMSELF ANY JUSTICE BECAUSE I THOUGHT 5000 WAS REALLY HIGH.

THEN I LOOKED AND -- ONLY TALKING A GRAND, 1500 OR 1600.

BUT BECAUSE IT IS AMBIGUOUS ON HOW WE ARE DOING ALL THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE US LOOK AT SOME WAY WHERE WHEN YOU OVERSIZE A LINE WHEN YOU HAVE THE FEE MAY BE $10,000 BUT THEN YOU OVERSIZE, YOU GET CREDITED THAT MONEY TOWARD THE $10,000 FEE. BECAUSE A WAY FOR LOOKING TO SET UP NOW, THE COME UP AND GO, AND WILL BUILD THIS AND DO THIS AND THAT THE STAFF SAYS, 5000 MORE.

OR 4500. AND SO, I DON'T HOW YOU PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT AND DESIGN IT WITHOUT KNOWING AT ALL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU MASTER PLAN SOMETHING WITH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW IS GOING TO COST YOU JUST HAVE TO GO MILLIONS AND ESTIMATE HOPEFULLY THERE -- MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME DEAL WHERE IT LOOKS REALLY HIGH ON PAPER, BUT AGAIN GET CREDITS FOR ALL OF THIS OVERSIZE.

ANOTHER IS NO DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN HERE WE DON'T SAY, 12 INCH TO 15 INCH INSTEAD OF NINE OR 12.

AND WE HAD, I DO KNOW HE DIDN'T DO A PID BUT WE SAID WANT YOU TO OVERSIZE THE ROAD AND BUILD A BIGGER SIDEWALK.

AND THAT'S WHERE I WILL SAY COMPARABLE COMMUNITY BENEFIT OUT OF KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE WE FIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT AND WHAT IS NOT. IN A WAY, IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY DETAILED, BUT BLACK-AND-WHITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT SOMETHING AND GO, I'VE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WHEREAS NOW, IT'S JUST LIKE -- NINE, COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, KNOW THAT WE GOT STATE LAW WHEN IT COMES TO THIS POSTING IN A CONTRACT BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO TRY AND SQUEEZE SOMETHING IN. THE CONCERN THAT THEY HAD IS, I JUST DID A CLOSING TODAY AND THE PASTOR PAPER YOUR INITIAL

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AND SIGN, INITIAL AND SIGN. I SIGNED LIKE 15 PIECE OF PAPER. IF IT'S ALL 12 I WON'T KNOW IF IT IS STILL PID OR NOT. I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

WHAT THE REALTOR SAID IS, MAKE A PAGE OF BIGGER FONT, THIS IS LIKE ATTENTION LIKE A PACK OF CIGARETTES.

ATTENTION, PID ASSESSMENT WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SIGN IT.

IT JUMPS OUT AT YOU BECAUSE IS DIFFERENT AND I DON'T KNOW ANY DEVELOPER WOULD BE UPSET BY THAT BECAUSE YOU GET ON 23 -- QUERCETIN IS REQUIRED WHEN YOU FINALLY SIGN YOUR CONTRACT DOCUMENTS. YOU HAVE A FORM SAYING YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE IN A MUD AND PAYING THE FEE.

I THINK THAT WILL BRING THAT THING AT THE READY IN THERE.

>> IT'S ALL THE SAME FONT. I'M SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT THIS TODAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SIGNED.

BECAUSE I FIGURE THE NOT GOING TO LET ME CHANGE WORDING ANYWAY SO I CAN HAGGLE WITH THE TITLE COMPANY RIGHT? I JUST SIGNED BUT I COULD HAVE WALKED AWAY IF I SAW SOMETHING BIG. 23, THE SUN WERE GOING TO PUT.

WHERE READ 23, I CAN DO A LITTLE TWO BY FOUR SIGN AND PUT IT IN THE CORNER SOMEWHERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGN, THIS IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING.

YOU PUT LIKE, IT'S GOT TO BE FOUR BY EIGHT SIGN WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF YOUR ENTRY LEVEL OR ENTRYWAY.

BECAUSE THE WAY READ THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'LL PUT THE SIGN BUT IF YOU WANTED TO SHOW PEOPLE A PID IF YOU WANTED TO HIDE IT YOU CAN PUT BEHIND LANDSCAPING.

AND TELL STAFF TO PUT THE SIGN UP.

ALMOST DONE HERE. PAGE 10.

I DISAGREE WITH -- KEVIN SAID ABOUT THE LETTERS OF INTENT BEING A DIFFICULT THING. LETTERS OF INTENT MEAN NOTHING.

THEY AREN'T EVEN LEGALLY BINDING.

IF WE REQUIRE SOMEONE TO HAVE AND IS LETTER OF INTENT, THAT WAS STANDARD LANGUAGE. GETTING A LETTER OF INTENT IS REALLY MEANINGLESS. I JUST FIND IT DIFFICULT AS A BARRIER TO GETTING A PID. BUILD CONTRACTS WITH EARNEST MONEY MAYBE IS DIFFICULT BUT LETTERS OF INTENT, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT ONE. THERE WAS A REOCCURRING, I DON'T KNOW -- IT IS LIKE A LEGAL THING.

VERY FIRST PAGE THE PURPOSE, THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PARENTHESES PID NOW SAYS PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PID, I THINK THE DISTRICT SHOULD BE UNOBSTRUCTED.

>> RIGHT. THEY WERE A COUPLE.

>> YES. OUTSIDE OF THAT, ONLY A FEW WORDS FOR KEVIN AND SOME STUFF KEVIN SAID.

IN MY OPINION, ONE PERSON OF SEVEN, THIS IS EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES BACK UP FOR PID. SOME PEOPLE GET MAY BE SHORTENED BECAUSE COST WENT UP BUT THE PROJECT MOVED FORWARD.

RIGHT NOW THE EXCITED IS NOT MOVE FORWARD.

COSTS ARE GETTING MORE COSTLY. HIS PUSHING DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER AREAS. BE MORE CAREFUL SAYING THAT PUBLIC. BECAUSE THE ONE THING WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY HOMES BEING BUILT. IF YOU SAY THIS IS MAKING IT HARDER TO BUILD HOMES IN HUTTO, MAKES OUR JOB EASIER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, SOMEONE HAS TO PAY MORE OR WE HAVE A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING. SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT FOR ME IS ALWAYS THE NEW HOMEOWNERS.

WHOEVER PAYS FOR IT I DON'T REALLY CARE.

MAY WE NEED TO JACKET UP MORE JUST TO LEVEL UP THE PRESIDENTIAL BUILDING. PUTTING CONTRACTS OUT BEFORE BUYING, I FORGOT WHAT THAT WAS. WE TALKED ABOUT PID PETITION, CLARIFICATION, FEES NOT CAUGHT UP I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THAT DONE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO CHEW UP SOME DEPOSIT FEES PRETTY QUICK MY GUESS IS GOING THROUGH THIS. AND THEN, PID THE DEFAULT, PAGE 13, THAT WAS A GOOD COMMENT THERE.

I GUESS YOU COULD READ IT TO THE EXTREME THAT IF ONE DOESN'T PAY THEN YOU CANNOT DO ANYMORE. I THINK THAT'S AN EASY FIX TO BE ABLE TO SAY, A IF IS TO FIND THAT HERE WERE DEVELOPER IS.

WHERE THE PID PETITION BUT THINK IF YOU ADD IN THERE THAT YOU DON'T INCLUDE HOMEOWNERS THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A REFERENCE TO ONE OF OUR PIDS WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE ARE SIDEWAYS WITH. ALSO, I THINK WE HAD SOME MORE CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF PID ARE GOOD OVERALL, I THINK THE

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REASON EVERYBODY'S DOING THEM IS BECAUSE IT IS WHERE YOU CAN EITHER PUT 20 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE AND AND BUILD YOUR HOMES AND CHARGE MORE PER LOT, WAKE UP AT 20 MILLION INCOME GET 10 OF IT KICKED BACK TO YOU AND OFFER CHEAPER LOT.

BUT THEN THE HOMEOWNER PAYS FOR THE SAME HOUSE PRICE, WITH A PID ASSESSMENT. ON BACARI'S DOWN PERSONALLY.

AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE PROPERLY NOTIFIED SO THEY MAKE THE DECISION IS MARKET-BASED AND IT DOESN'T COST EXISTING TAXPAYERS ANYMORE MONEY. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO A PID, SOMEHOW BENEFITS THE CITY, I'M HAPPY BUT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOUR BENEFIT TO THE CITY. IF IT GOES AWAY, I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL.

ANY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, IF IT IS NOT -- IF SOMEHOW IT BENEFITS US, MAKES IT EASIER TO LIVE HERE, I'M FOR IT.

I THINK I'VE HIT ALL OF THE -- THAT'S IT FOR ME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS.

SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST I THINK.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK THE SECOND MEETING OF

AUGUST. >> OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE TO

TURN IT AROUND IN A FEW DAYS. >> ALSO, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED, BUT MAYBE JUST TO CLARIFY I GUESS, WHAT THE CURRENT PIDS IN THE PIPELINE, WHERE THEY STAND WITH OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE -- CHRIS BEFORE THE

SECOND MEETING. >> CLARIFY THE POLICY.

>> ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT SEPARATE TO ALL COUNSEL.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT TONIGHT SO WE WILL MAKE THE CHANGES.

>> AND TO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE'S NO GRANDFATHERING OF POLICIES. A POLICY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CLAIM I HAVE A PETITION IN THE PIPELINE SO I'M UNDER THE OLD POLICY. POLICIES OR GUIDELINES THAT CAN

CHANGE. >> WHICHEVER IT MAY BE, JUST THAT WE ARE CLARIFYING. I GUESS WHERE THEY STAND SO THEY CAN EITHER MOVE FORWARD OR GET OUT OF HUTTO.

GET OUT OF HUTTO, NOT GET OUT OF HUTTO BUT LEAVE AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT. [LAUGHTER] SO, WRONG CHOICE OF WORDS, I'M SORRY.

>> HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS. THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP A FEW POINTS. I THINK THAT GOING TO P&Z DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAVE THE DEVELOPER TIME BUT IT SAVES US TIME AND AS COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE PUBLIC INPUT. THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD AND COMMISSION DOES AND PROBABLY KNOWS AND CAN DO CIRCLE ON PID AND MORE. I WOULD PERSONALLY LOVE TO HAVE A GO TO THE P&Z FIRST. HER LEAST THE ORDER THAT OUTLINES THAT IS THE PUBLIC INPUT.

THEY ARE PUTTING WHAT THEY THINK IN THEIR EDUCATED, INNER THOUGHTS AS WELL. I THINK THAT IS VERY VALUABLE PUBLIC INPUT AND HONESTLY, A LOT OF TIMES THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE WHEN IT COMES TO US.

WE SEE THE MAP BEFORE P&Z THEN AFTER P&Z AND WILL GO, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED. I THINK THEY VERY MUCH ARE IN TUNE WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS WELL.

AND I ALSO THINK THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH PUTTING EVERY SINGLE THING IN BLACK-AND-WHITE, IT LEAVES NO ROOM FOR CREATIVITY. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE VARIANCES. AND THE PIDS.

HAVING THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THE NICER COMMUNITIES AND THOSE DIFFERENT AMENITIES, THE MORE THAT WE TRY TO LIST EVERY SINGLE CATCH ALL, AND IF WILL EVER ENCAPSULATE EVERYTHING.

I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CUTTING OFF THE ACTUAL ABILITY TO HAVE CREATIVITY WITHIN SOME OF THESE MASTER-PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. I DO THINK THAT MAYBE 5000, IF COUNSEL FEELS THAT IS TOO HIGH, HONESTLY DO NOT WANT TO LOWER IT TO MUCH MORE. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON THAT IT KIND OF ENCOURAGES THE LARGER LOTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GET SO MUCH CAUGHT UP IN THE BUREAUCRACY FOR US NOT TO REMEMBER WHAT WE HAVE ALL ACTUALLY BEEN SAYING UP HERE AND DIRECTING STAFF TO DO.

A LOT OF TIMES, THESE DISTRICTS AND PIDS, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY PUT THE BENEFIT INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY BUT A LOT OF TIMES, THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING THINGS YOU KNOW LIKE LIGHTS AND KIND OF LEADING UP TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PID DISTRICT. SO AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF OUR RIGHT FOOT AND WE CAN WALK BY PUTTING SO MUCH DETAIL IN BLACK-AND-WHITE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM FOR THOSE

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VARIANCES AND THEN, WE CAN GO AGAINST OUR OWN POLICY.

SO I THINK A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF LOOPHOLES AT THE END MAY BE OUR NECESSARILY BAD THINGS. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE SOME VARIATION FOR US TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO US, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, WORSE IS IT JUST BEING IN BLACK-AND-WHITE AND NOTHING WE CAN DO AND OUR HANDS ARE TIED. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AS ONE COUNCILMEMBER. SORRY IF THAT MAKES YOUR JOB

HARDER. >> AUTHOR HAS EVER TIED BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE WANT

ANYWAY. >> NO, AND WE CAN ALWAYS BRING

IT BACK. >> WE CAN ALWAYS OVERRIDE IT.

>> RIGHT.> HAVING THE POINT OF PUTTING THINGS BACKWARDS TO GIVE DEVELOPERS A BETTER IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT, LIKELY TO BE APPROVED. BUT I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY TAKES AWAY THE CREATIVITY.

YOU CAN SAY THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS BUT CAN WE TRY SOMETHING ELSE?

>> I THINK IT DEFINITELY IS. IF YOU CAN SAY CAN ONLY HAVE TWO VARIANCES VERSUS MULTIPLE VARIANCES, THAT DEFINITELY TAKES IT AWAY. LIKE IN THEIR PLAN AND PROCESS.

>> THAT I DISAGREE BECAUSE VARIANCES ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL. ONE PROJECT ONE VARIANCE MIGHT BE A WHOLE LOT MORE IMPACTFUL THAN ANOTHER PROJECT.

>> RIGHT AND I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT NARROWING IT DOWN TO TWO

VERSUS MULTIPLE. >> I DISAGREE WITH BUT IN GENERAL I THINK GIVING CLARITY IS A GOOD THING TOO.

IT'S A BALANCE. >> ADDITIONAL ATTEMPT TO TRY TO ENCAPSULATE EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY WORKING HARD AND THINGS GET MISSED AND IT'S WHAT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT ABOUT THAT. WE RUN INTO THAT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LIST THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY AND NO ONE -- THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES AND GROUPS.

SO IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS IS ALL.

>> STAFF WILL SHORTLY WORK ON ADDING PREDICTABILITY TO THE PROCESS. IN THE LAW FOR CREATIVITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY FUN TIME!E WILL BRING IT BACK.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, LET STAFF BRING IT BACK AUGUST 2.

>> THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST.

>> SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST. >> AUGUST 18.

I THINK THAT'S ALMOST DUE -- [INAUDIBLE]

[13.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ASHLEY.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 13.1. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, RE-APPOINTMENTS AND/OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT

APPOINTMENTS.>> MAYER, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY NEW APPLICATIONS. WE DID RECEIVE ONE BUT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. IT JUST CAME IN YESTERDAY.

RECENTLY ACTUALLY TOOK UNDER 11.1, WE SET ALL OF THE EXPIRATIONS TO OCCUR ON THE END OF JUNE, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK.

AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO BASED ON THE NEW PROCESS WE JUST SET UP, BASICALLY, EXPIRED A WEEK AGO.

AND SO, I SENT AN EMAIL TO DAN -- A NEPHEW ABLE TO REVIEW THAT IF YOU START EARLIER TODAY BUT I BASICALLY TOOK EVERY PERSON WHO IS SET TO EXPIRE THIS YEAR AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE REAPPOINT ALL OF THOSE. WE RECOMMEND FOR ALL REAPPOINTMENT. SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE GOING IN TO HAVE THE LIST. I COULD READ OFF.

>> DIDN'T GIVE ANYBODY FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? AS A JUDICIAL BOARD, BASICALLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN

ALTERNATE TO EVEN MAKE QUORUM. >> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY,

NO. >> REAR REAPPOINT EVERYONE

WHOSE TERM EXPIRED. >> AT LEAST GET THOSE.

LESTER OBJECTIONS. >> MAYER, I CAN DO THEM ALL TOGETHER, IS THAT OKAY? FOR THE MOTION TO REAPPOINT TO THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION, RYAN THOMPSON, ANNA GONZALES, TERRACE BOONES. TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION, APRIL WILLIS, BILL COLE, AND CHRISTINA GARZA.

AND I COULD EMAIL US TO EVERYBODY.

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, CURTIS --, ALEXIS ORTIZ AND DEANN -- TO THE LIBRARY ADVISOR WERE, TARA CHAPEL, EMMA PETERS, AND -- ORTIZ.

TO THE PROX ADVISORY BOARD, DAVID MEYER AND TERRY --.

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THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BRIAN LEE, DAVID MEYER AND SUSANNA BOYER. ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, JOHN NARINES, BRIAN LEE, TO THE ADA TASK FORCE, AND FOR THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TASK FORCE, RECOMMENDING REAPPOINTING ALL CURRENT MEMBERS BECAUSE THE TASK FORCE IS ONE YEAR TERM. THAT WOULD BE THOMAS --, DON JONES, STEVIE JONES, MATTHEW SELBY, MARCUS COLEMAN, PETE PALOMBO AND.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECOND BY -- DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. IN CASE YOU DID NOT CACTUS, I DID NOT RECOMMEND REAPPOINTING ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE. I SPOKE WITH CITY STAFF, I SPOKE WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE EXCEPT ONE, WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONTACT.

BUT WILL AGREE THAT THE TASK FORCE HAS FULFILLED ITS PURPOSE IN ESTABLISHING THE NEW WEBSITE AND DOING THE THINGS THEY DID FOR THE YEAR. AND WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT IT FULFILLED THE PURPOSE OF THE TASK FORCE AND THERE IS NO NEED TO REAPPOINT. WE WILL JUST LET THAT ONE GO

AWAY. >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO DISBAND THAT OR TAKE NO ACTION AND IT AUTOMATICALLY

GOES AWAY? >> I'M SORRY.

>> COMMUNICATION TEST WAS. MAYOR PRO TEM SAYS THEY DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO CONTINUE. DO WE NEED TO HAVE AN ACTION TO DISBAND IT?R IS IT JUST SUNSET AND GO AWAY?

>> I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO HOLD THAT WAS CREATED TO FUND THAT IF IT IS JUST SUNSET IT OR IF WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

>> OKAY. >> I DON'T KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED IT AND BRING IT BACK. THAT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T

PROPOSE ANY REAPPOINTMENTS. >> WILL REVIEW AT THE NEXT MEETING COMMUNICATIONS TASK FORCE, I GUESS FORMATION.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 13.1? >> THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I HAD WAS WE STILL NOT APPOINTED SOMEONE TO --.

I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER IS NEXT MEETING.

IT IS QUARTERLY I BELIEVE IS WHAT I FOUND OUT.

IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR IT.

IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD PREFER, I WILL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

WE NEED SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. APPOINTING TO --

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

ANY OTHER ITEMS? >> FOR THE APPOINTMENTS, I'LL

[13.2. Presentation - Information Technology (IT) Master Plan Update (David Reeves)]

EMAIL YOU A LIST. SO YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR THE

MINUTES. >> OKAY ITEM 13.2.

PRESENTATION - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY (IT) MASTER PLAN UPDATE. DAVID, GOOD EVENING.

CHRIS GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WERE GOING TO DO THIS THING.

THEN TWO AGO A LOT OF THINGS GOT CANCELED D OR POSTPONED.

SO, IT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE A PRETTY GOOD THING AS ANGIE SAID ONE OF OUR MEETINGS LAST TWO YEARS, SO MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING WE ARE DELAYED UNTIL NOW

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TO START THIS MASTER PLANNING. THE GOAL OF THE PLAN IS TO PROVIDE A 2 TO 5 YEAR ROADMAP. IN MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU GET A SOLID TWO YEARS OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY ROADMAP, IT IS A SUCCESSFUL PLAN.IF YOU'RE STILL GETTING DIRECTION AND GOOD THINGS CLOSE TO FIVE YEARS, IT'S AN EXCELLENT PLAN.

THAT'S OUR GOAL. FOLLOWED A PRETTY STANDARD PROCESS.E PUT OUT AN RFQ WITH FIVE COMPANIES, SUBMIT RESPONSES, A STAFF TEAM NARROWED ATTITUDE AND THEN WE CHOSE A COMPANY CALLED CLIENT FIRST.

TO CREATE OUR MASTER PLAN. THEIR PROPOSAL AND INFORMATION WAS IN THE PACKET BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT ONLY STOOD OUT TO US THAT THEIR VAST EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA.

THEY WORKED WITH IN THE GOVERNMENT STATE OF TEXAS AND SIMILAR TO OUR SIZE. THEY BY FAR THE MOST EXPERIENCE OF ANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT SUBMITTED.

WE ALSO LIKE THE METHODOLOGY, INCLUDES THE ME WITH ALL VARSITY OPERATIONAL STAFF, AND EXECUTIVE TEAM, LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW THEY ARE CONSUMING IT SERVICES.

DELL BETTER GUIDE AS TO HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT.

SOME OF THE OTHER BASIC ELEMENTS OF PLANNING THAT THEY DO, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE ELEMENTS, WE REQUESTED SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY TOUCHED ON AND INCLUDED IN OUR PLAN. NOT ONLY PLANNING ON HOW IT STAFFING HAS TO CHANGE AND GROW OVER THE YEARS, BUT TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE STAFFING FOR PD SUPPORT AND THEIR UNIQUE NEEDS.

ALSO, THE NETWORK AT PDP THAT USED TO BE THE CITY NETWORK.

BUT IT IS STILL THERE, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF A WORKLOAD NOW BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO FUNCTION AND WE WILL NEED TO BE REFRESHED AND RIGHT SIZED SOON.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY DID NOT JUST LOOK AT OUR NETWORK BUT REALISM IS A NETWORK OVER THERE TO LOOK AT.

ANOTHER THING ON THE SLIDE, I THINK EVERY CITY IN THIS AREA OR POSSIBLY STATE IS LOOKING AT BROADBAND AND FIBER ACQUISITION. OBVIOUSLY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TOO BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO INCLUDE SOME PLANNING FOR WHAT CAN WE DO TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE MEGA SITE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY LOOK AT THAT. AT THE TOP OF THE NEXT SLIDE, WE REALLY DO NOT DO A LOT OF CLOUD STORAGE RIGHT NOW.

BUT I KNOW IT IS A DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO TO.

LEVERAGING CLOUD STORAGE IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE FEASIBLE, RATHER THAN BUILDING A BUNCH OF HARDWARE IN THE DATA CENTER AND REFRESHING THE HARDWARE EVERY FEW YEARS AND LICENSING IT AND PATCHING IT AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICES, BEST WAYS TO LEVERAGE CLOUD STORAGE.

ESPECIALLY FOR ALL OF THE VIDEO DATA THE PD IS NOW GENERATING.

WITH THEIR BODY CAMERAS AND CAR CAMERAS AND ALL OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU REMEMBER FOR THE APRIL 7 COUNCIL MEETING. YOU HAD NO INTERNET SO, REDUNDANCY FOR INTERNET OUTAGES, THEY ARE ALREADY ON THE RADAR THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE, WHICH ALSO LEADS INTO REDUNDANCY AND INTEGRATION BETWEEN SITES.

WE HAVE THAT NOW BUT I KNOW IT CAN BE IMPROVED.

WHICH ALSO HELPS WITH DISASTER RECOVERY PLANNING AND PROCEDURES. THE BASIC TIMELINE, THE PROJECT WAS BUDGETED AND THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN EXECUTED.

OUR KICKOFF MEETING WILL BE THIS COMING MONDAY.

AND THEN THE EXPECTED LENGTH OF THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT 16 WEEKS. SOMETIME AFTER THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROCBRING YOUR ROADM. AFTER A FEW YEARS, IT SEEMED LIKE THE TIMING IS RIGHT AND YOU'RE EXCITED TO GET STARTED WITH IT. IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, I WILL TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? >> OWNER HAVE AND AM SURE IT WILL BE DONE WITH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY MASTER PLAN, BUT FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS AS COVID CHANGED THINGS, IS THAT INSTEAD OF TEXT MESSAGING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, EVERYTHING IS USING SOME KIND OF WEBEX OR ZOOM OR SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL THAT WAY, WHICH ONE GOOD THING IS IT UNTETHERED YOU FROM A SPECIFIC PHONE TO HAVE

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THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN EMAIL SITE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN INSTANT MESSAGING SITE.

IF IT'S PART OF AN INSTANT MESSAGING INDEPENDENT OF JUST A PHONE NUMBER. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY CAME UP WITH YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER WHEN HE COMES IN, WE'LL SEE HOW THEY'VE DONE FROM OTHER TOWNS.

BUT ANYWAY THAT WAS MY THING. I THINK THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE UNTETHERED HAVING TO HAVE A SPECIFIC PHONE.

>> I WILL MAKE A NOTE TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> DON'T YOU HAVE THE

CAPABILITY? >> IT DOES, IT REQUIRES PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT ON THEIR END. AS WELL.

SO, IF YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE ONE PARTICULAR THING AT THE OTHER END, AND IT'S ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS IS EVEN BETTER. SOMETHING I'M SURE WE CAN LOOK

INTO. >> DAVID, IT'S GOING TO BE 16 WEEKS BEFORE WE GET THERE REPORT.

OR WITH THE MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE.

>> CORRECT. >> IS THE KIND OF QUESTIONING ALL THE TIME. ONE IS FIBER COMING, WHEN DO WE GET BETTER INTERNET OPTIONS? HAT 16 WEEKS OF THE MEETING WILL JUST BE KIND OF, HERE'S THE ROADMAP AND AT THAT POINT, THAT WILL BE WHERE WE ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL CAPABILITY LIKE WHEN FIBER WILL COME?

AND WHAT THE OPTIONS WILL BE. >> AS WE HAD TO START MAKING A DECISION ON HOW, THEY WILL SUGGEST THE PRIORITY OF HOW WE GO ABOUT IT BUT WE WILL HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE AND YOU ALL WILL HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE. THEY PUT THIS IN NUMBER FOUR BUT WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE NUMBER TWO AND PRIORITIZE.

AND DECIDE HOW BEST TO SPEND THE MONEY FIRST AND SECOND AND THIRD. THAT KIND OF THING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> YES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THIS IS A BIG TO DO AND FOR THE PRICE WERE GETTING IT AT IS GREAT. I'M EXCITED FOR THE REPORT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT! [LAUGHTER] BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THE CITY NEEDS.

I DEFINITELY LIKE THE EMPHASIS OF WHERE THE ASPECT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UPGRADING THEIR CAPABILITIES, EVERYTHING IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME. THAT IS DEFINITELY A PARTY FOR ME AND OF COURSE FOR THE CITY, PUBLIC SAFETY IN GENERAL, SUPER IMPORTANT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND AGAIN, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

[13.3. Presentation of Fiscal Year 2023 Proposed Budget (Angie Rios)]

I'M LOOKING FORWARD. >> LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AS

WELL. >> THANKS DAVID.

>> THANK YOU. >> HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST ITEM 13.3, PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROPOSED BUDGET.

GOOD EVENING, ANGIE. >> IF ANY WOULD LIKE, DO A PRINTED COPIES OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET IF YOU WANT ONE TO TAKE NOTES OR. [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M GOOD.

YOU KNOW ME! >> DO WE WANT TO WAIT FOR THEM

TO RETURN? >> NO, YOU'RE OKAY.

>> OKAY. A LITTLE NERVOUS AND EXCITEMENT HERE TO ACTUALLY STUDY REAL BUDGET PROCESS WITH YOU GUYS, IT'S KIND OF FUN! I LIKE THE BUDGET.

HE IS LAUGHING AT ME BECAUSE WE LIKE THE BUDGET A LOT.

SO, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IN ANOTHER MAYOR SAID AND ALL YOU'VE SAID THE BUDGET IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS. KIND OF WHAT DRIVES A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR PILLARS AROUND HERE AND I THINK THE BUDGET IS HOW WE START TO ACHIEVE AND REALLY WORK TOWARDS SOME OF THAT, THAT WE MAINTAIN THE STABILITY THAT WE CREATE THAT YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE DO THOSE THINGS. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABLE TO GROW. THIS IS WHERE WE WILL GROW RESPONSIBLY, WE WILL DO ALL THAT.

THIS IS A CRITICAL PART OF IT, OF WHAT WE DO AS A CITY.I'M VERY EXCITED WITH THIS. WE'LL START WITH THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING 24 MILLION IN REVENUE AND 24 MILLION IN EXPENSES.

AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME YOU DID A BUDGET PRESENTATION WE TALKED ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH WE'VE TAKEN ON A LOT OF THE REVENUES.

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SO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW WE DON'T OVER EXTEND OURSELVES. IN THE GENERAL FUND, THIS YEAR RIGHT NOW IN THE BUDGET YOU HAVE, WE'VE ADDED A MILLION IN PERSONAL, AND 100,000 IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, 200,000 IN CAPITOL OUTLAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AS WE GO FORWARD. THIS IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT, IT MEANS INCLUDES A GENERAL FUND AND IT HAS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE BY THEMSELVES, VERY SMALL PIECE, THAT IS MUNICIPAL COURT FUND, THE PEG FUNDS, PARKLAND FUNDS, HOTEL TAX, THINGS LIKE THAT.

VERY SMALL PIECE OF WHAT THIS IS BUT WE DO HAVE THEM SEGREGATE OUR PETER DOOCY PROPERTY TAXES THE BIGGEST REVENUE. SALES TAX IS GAINING ON IT.

MOVING UP THERE.HEN PERMITS AND SOME OF THE REVENUES.

THIS KIND OF COMPARES THE 22 BUDGET TO THE 23 PROPOSED THAT YOU HAVE THERE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE GOTTEN VERY SMALL INCREASES IN THE PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU HAVE A NO NEW REVENUE RATE IF WE CHOOSE TO STAY AT THAT.

YOU HONESTLY REVENUES ON NEW PROPERTIES.

SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES ON THINGS THAT AREN'T YOU KNOW SOME OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT IS ABOUT 1.8 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

ROUGHLY, BUT SOME OF THAT WILL PAY DEBT.

OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF IT WILL END UP IN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN, YOU WILL SEE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SALES TAX.

WE HAVE AN INCREASE THERE. WITH A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER THIS YEAR. NUMBER 423 STILL VERY CONSERVATIVE WHEN WE ENDED UP OVER 8 MILLION FOUR 21.

BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT AT THE POSSIBILITIES OF RECESSION. A READY TALKING ABOUT LUMBER PRICES AND OTHER THINGS DECREASING AND SO, HOME SALES SLOWING LITTLE BIT SO WE CONTINUE TO WANT TO KEEP THAT CONSERVATIVE AND MONITOR IT. DURING COVID, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT TO PROCESS CITATIONS AND GET PEOPLE IN AND HAVE -- THEY BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF SOME, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN GENEROUS HELPING WITH THEIR TIME, TO COLLECT UNWARRANTED THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE SEEING MORE, IT IS NOT A BIG NUMBER AND THE TOTAL REVENUE BUT IT IS GOING UP. IT'S A HUGE INCREASE BUT ALSO A VERY SMALL NUMBER IN THE BUDGET BUT IS MADE UP OF TWO PIECES, THAT IS CREDIT CARD FEES WHICH WE IMPLEMENTED AFTER WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET. WE MOVED FORWARD AND THINGS STARTED IN OCTOBER BUT THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET NUMBER. WE ARE PLANNING TO RESTART A LOT OF THE RECREATION PLANS SO THERE REVENUES IN THEIR SERVICES FOR THOSE PROGRAMS FOR SUMMER CAMP AND OTHER RECREATION AND THINGS. THAT'S THE BIG INCREASE YOUR SING. PERMITS, SLIGHT INCREASE, AGAIN, WITH WHAT THE HOUSING MARKET WILL DO.

>> THOSE PARTS PROGRAMS, OR THOSE DESIGNED TO BE A BREAKEVEN? WE CHARGE THE PARTICIPANTS --

>> FOR MOST, FOR LIKE ATHLETIC LEAGUES AND SUMMER CAMP AND THOSE THINGS, YES. THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT IS TO COVER THE COSTS. AND THOSE OF THE BIG ONES IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY.

WE GOT YOUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES.O SURPRISE, PERSONNEL IS 50 PERCENT OF ALL EXPENDITURES.

THAT IS THE SERVICE INDUSTRY SO IT IS GOING TO ALWAYS BE THE BIGGEST COST. THEN YOU GOT YOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND SOME CAPITOL OUTLAY GENERAL EXPENSES AND OTHER THINGS ARE NOT AS BIG BUT, PERSONNEL WILL ALWAYS BE THE BIG ONE. HERE IS A COMPARISON FROM THE 22 BUDGET TO THE 23 BUDGET AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

SLIGHT INCREASE IN PERSONNEL, WE ARE ADDING SEVERAL POSITIONS IN THE BUDGET WHICH WILL GO THROUGH IN A LITTLE WHILE AND TALK ABOUT THAT. IT DOESN'T LOOK AS BIG BECAUSE OF HOW WE ARE CHANGING UP THE ENGINEERING.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT TOO. MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES, SOME OF THE GROWTH, A LOT OF IT IS DUE TO ADDING IN THE SUPPLIES THAT WE NEEDED FOR THOSE RECREATION PROGRAMS. TO SUPPORT THAT. SO, TO BUY IF THERE IS YOU KNOW IF WE NEED NEW BALLS OR WHATEVER FOR THE YOU KNOW, THE SPORTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THOSE ITEMS THERE. MAINTENANCE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE

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IT'S GOING DOWN BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS A LIE WHERE THE GENERATORS ARE BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THE BUILDINGS AND SO, WE TAKE OUT THE VERY LARGE NUMBER, YOU WILL WE'VE INCREASED A LITTLE BIT, IT IS STILL A DECREASE BECAUSE WE HAD $600,000 FOR GENERATORS BUDGETED THERE.

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS SHOWING A VERY LARGE INCREASE BUT THAT IS DUE TO ENGINEERING. BECAUSE WILL BE CONTRACTING THAT OUT AND NOT, IT WILL BE IN PERSONNEL.

THAT IS A SHIFT GOING ON THERE. AND THEN, THE OTHER ITEM MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES IS FUEL. IT IS IN THERE AND WE ALL KNOW THE COST OF GAS IS, SO -- WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE OUR FUEL LINE ITEMS IN ALL DEPARTMENTS. AND HERE WE HAVE INCREASES DUE TO INSURANCE AND SOME CONTRACTED, NOT CONTRACTED BUT INSURANCE. WE ALSO HAVE MONIES SITTING THERE. IT IS SITTING THERE UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE LATER.

SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.

UTILITY FUND, SHOWING 15 MILLION REVENUES, 15 MILLION EXPENDITURES. A SMALLER FUND, WE'VE ADDED SOME PERSONNEL, LITTLE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

SEVERAL CAPITAL ITEMS. THIS IS HOW THE REVENUES BREAK DOWN IN THE UTILITIES. WATER, WASTEWATER, WASTEWATER IS BIGGER THAN THE WATER. JUST BECAUSE OF OUR SERVICE AREA. WE GOT YOUR SOLID WASTE AND SOME REVENUES GOING THERE. YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE HERE, IN THE WATER SALES AND WASTEWATER SALES, JUST THAT GROWTH IN CUSTOMERS, NEW HOMES, ALL OF THAT COMING ONLINE.

BECAUSE WE REDUCED THE WATER RATES SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS ALL TO THE GROWTH. THE OTHER OPERATING REVENUES THAT YOU ARE SEEING OTHER CREDIT CARD FEES AGAIN THAT WE ARE COLLECTED FROM CUSTOMERS. THAT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET BUT IT IS FOR 23. IN THE UTILITY, THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IS DEBT.

HAT'S FRIGHTENING. WE HAVE A LOT OF DEBT IN THE UTILITY FUNDS. IT IS THE LARGEST PIECE OF YOUR PERSONAL AND CONTRACTED SERVICES, GOING BACK AND FORTH ON HOW WE ARE DOING ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. PERSONNEL IS UP BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED A COUPLE OF POSITIONS IN THERE. MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES.

WE ARE SEEING A BIG INCREASE IN CHEMICALS COST NEEDED FOR THE PLANTS. AND TO MAINTAIN THE WATER SYSTEM, WE HAVE GOT INCREASES THERE BECAUSE OF THAT AND THEN AGAIN FOR FUEL. MAINTENANCE HAS LITTLE INCREASE THERE. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES HAS A BIG INCREASE BECAUSE OF ENGINEERING COSTS.

AGAIN, WE ARE BUDGETING FOR ENGINEERING THERE AND WITH THE PROJECTS WE HAVE COMING UP, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NEED SOME OF THAT. THEN THE CONTRACTED SERVICES INCREASES LITTLE BIT. THAT IS OUR ERA CONTRACT FOR THEM TO MANAGE THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND WE DO TYPICALLY SEE A SMALL INCREASE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THE COST IS NCREASING ALSO. MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES ARE AGAIN, INSURANCE, AND THERE YOU KNOW WITH THE PROPERTY VALUES GOING UP, ONE OF THE THINGS WERE TOLD BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT WE NEED TO BUDGET AND INCREASE INSURANCE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE VALUE OF THIS BUILDING AND PROPERTY IS WORTH MORE THAN THE INSURANCE WILL GO UP, BECAUSE IS BASED ON A LOT OF THAT. SO, WE ARE SEEING SOME INCREASES IN THAT AREA. THE DEBT SERVICE IN THE UTILITY FUND DOES HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE.

YOU CAN SEE IT THIS YEAR. THAT PAYMENT IS GOING UP.

WE DID INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKET, THE SCHEDULE FOR THE DEBT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WITH THE INCREASES.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE WILL BE SEEING INCREASES FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND THE DEBT AS IT KICKS UP.

THAT WAS INTENTIONAL WHEN THEY DID THE HEART OF TEXAS DEBT ISSUANCE. YOU WILL KNOW THAT THERE WAS NO PRINCIPLE OF VERY LITTLE PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS IN THE BEGINNING AND THOSE ARE REALLY RAMPING UP IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. CAPITAL LA IS NOT A LARGE NUMBER BUT THIS WEEK BUDGET TO GET ONE TRUCK AND ANOTHER COUPLE ABOUT HIS BACKHOE AND TRAILER AND SOME THINGS.

AND A DUMP TRUCK. I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE A

QUESTION? >> I WAS SAYING IF WE KNEW WE HAD TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL UFF, DO YOU THINK THE DEBT SERVICE CE WILL GROW OW LARGER THAN NOW? BASED ON THIS YEAR? IF WE ISSUE BONDS AND STUFF.

-- >> IT WILL DEPEND ON WHEN WE ISSUE THE DEBT. AND THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION

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WE WILL HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE CIP AND THE DEBT AT THE NEXT MEETING. WORKFORCE INVESTMENT.

SINCE WE ARE A SERVICE INDUSTRY, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL OF THESE YOU KNOW PROVIDE SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 15 FTES IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE HR, WE WILL LISTED THE EDC MANAGER BUT THERE SAID TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE REPORTED TO BOB ELLIS THAT CHANGES.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER COURT CLERK AND THE OTHER POSITION I WILL TELL YOU WILL NOT BE HIRED RIGHT AWAY.

WHAT THAT WILL BE RESPONSE TO HIS ADDING ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO GIVE THE OFFICERS ON AND SET UP MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. THAT WOULD TRAFFIC CONTROL CREATE MORE CITATIONS. WHICH WOULD MEAN THE COURT WILL BE BUSIER. BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, THAT POSITION WON'T BE FILLED RIGHT AWAY.

BUT IS THERE IN RESPONSE TO CONTINUING TO ADD IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CREATING THE TRAFFIC UNIT THAT THEY WANT.

ANOTHER BUILDING INSPECTOR. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT A LOT OF INSPECTIONS ON IS VERY COSTLY, WILL ADD ANOTHER INSPECTOR AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND ONE, THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR ALL THE CITIES AROUND US. WE'VE GOT TWO CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS. SENIOR TO OVERSEE THE OTHERS AND ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR, THEY ARE ALSO HAVING TO CONTRACT OUT SERVICES BECAUSE OF THE GROWING NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS OF ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS IS REALLY WHEN THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IS CORN A LOT. AND IT'S REALLY DRIVING A LOT OF THEIR DAILY WORK. AND THEN, OF COURSE ALL THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, STREETS AND THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEING BUILT.

THERE WE HAVE THREE NEW POLICE OFFICERS BUDGET.

GRAPHIC DESIGNER FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, THEIR SERVICES ARE IN VERY HIGH DEMAND.

WHICH SPEAKS TO THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING, THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WANT THEM TO DO THINGS AND THEY HAVE TO TURN DOWN DEPARTMENTS SAYING THAT THEY CANNOT HELP THEM. THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO MORE IN THAT DEPARTMENT. THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARIAN, THERE'S A DEMAND FOR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING IN THE LIBRARY REALLY GROWING. AND MORE PEOPLE COMING BACK INTO THE LIBRARY. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE BRINGING BACK THE PARKS PROGRAMS, WE WANT TO ADD THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, THEN WE HAVE TWO SUPERINTENDENTS PER THE PARK SUPERINTENDENT OVER PARKS MAINTENANCE AND THAT CREW. YOU WOULD HAVE THAT OVERSEEING ALL THE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THE PARKS.

THEN YOU HAVE RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF OVERSEEING ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, CREATING ALL OF THE LEAGUES, DOING THE RECRUITING. HANDLING ALL OF THAT PART OF IT. THEN YOUR DIRECT WOULD BE LEFT TO HELP OBVIOUSLY, OVERSEE ALL OF THAT BUT ALSO, MANAGE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE BIGGER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IN THE PARK. AND SO, THAT WOULD GIVE THE PERSON THAT TIME TO REALLY WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD AND COUNTERMANDED SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS SO WE CAN GET THEM MOVING. IN THE UTILITY FUND, WE NEED TO ADD TWO UTILITY TECHNICIANS. OBVIOUSLY, WE CONTINUE TO GROW, MORE HOUSES, MORE SERVICES, MORE LINES FOR THEM TO TAKE CARE OF AND THE UPKEEP. THEY REQUESTED THE UTILITY TECHNICIANS TO HELP WITH ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

THERE IS A LOT OF IT. EXCUSE ME.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALSO IN THE WORKFORCE, THIS IS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF ENGINEERING.

WE TRIED TO HIRE ENGINEERS. AST YEAR WE HAD THEM IN THE BUDGET OR IN THE CURRENT YEAR. WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.

REPORTS TO THE JOBS, DID REALLY APPLICATIONS WE HAD TO CONTRACT THE SERVICE OUT. WE REMOVED THE ENGINEERING POSITIONS OUT OF SALARIES AND MOVED INTO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IF LATER ON, THE CITY MANAGER OR SOMEONE DECIDE WE WANT TO TRY AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE THOSE DOLLARS BACK INTO SALARIES.

TO FUND THOSE POSITIONS. WE WERE ESSENTIALLY KIND OF FLIP-FLOP THAT A LITTLE BIT. IT IS A LITTLE MORE THAN HIRING THOSE PEOPLE BUT IN ORDER TO CONTRACT THE SERVICE OUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ENGINEERING GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

>> EVEN WITH THE SAVINGS OF NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR BENEFITS, IT IS STILL MORE EXPENSIVE TO CONTRACT OUT?

>> YES SIR. >> IF THEY BECAUSE YOU'RE

PAYING FOR THE BENEFITS. >> DREW IT.

>> AND YOU ARE PAYING A MARK UPON THE SERVICES I'M SURE.

AND THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE SALARIES,

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PART OF MY UNDERSTANDING WHY WE CANNOT HIRE THEM IS BECAUSE A SALARIES EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD OR WHAT WE WERE OFFERING BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE OF ENGINEERS.

IT IS A HARD MARKET. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DOESN'T WORK, WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING FOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ENGINEERING LINE WAS BUT IT WAS SO HIGH IT COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HIRE POSITION THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN HUTTO FROM CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND SO, ALL OF THE SERVICES CAN BE DONE LIKE IN THE RUST BELT STATES OR SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, ALL OF THE COMPANIES ARE DOING IT. YOU CAN HAVE AN EMPLOYEE IN INDIANA, WHERE THERE'S NOT A HUGE DEMAND FOR INDIANAPOLIS FOR SERVICES. YOU CAN TRAIN THEM ON THE TEXAS HIRE THEM AND TRAIN THEM ON TEXAS CODE AND THEN HAVE THEM TAKE ON A LOT OF ENGINEERING RESPONSIBILITIES THAT A PERSON HERE, HAS TO BE IN THIS BUILDING.

I THINK THAT'S NO PROBLEM.E ARE TRYING TO HIRE PERSON -- HAS TO BE SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT HE OR SHE DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE. BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A STRONG IN DETROIT OR SOMETHING.

AND SO, I THINK WE HAD TO BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MILLIONS THAT WE ARE PAYING, BASIC CONSULTANTS AND TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM 'S POINT IF THEY MAKE 150 GRAND A FIRM, WE ARE PAYING 150 PLUS A HUGE MARKUP AND SO, WE ARE PAYING EVEN MORE. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. IF YOUR SPELLING $2 MILLION FOR CONSULTING SERVICES, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT WORKING.

I MEAN -- >> THAT IS FOR VACANT POSITIONS, TWO FOR PRODUCTS AND UTILITIES THAT WE HAD TWO ALREADY ON STAFF. THE LAND ENGINEER AND THE

ASSISTANT LAND ENGINEER. >> THEY HAVE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. >-- WE DO IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SO I'M THINKING WE COULD REALLY LOOK HARD AND FIND A NATIONWIDE SEARCH AND BRING IN, IT'S LIKE AN ACCOUNTANT ALMOST. NICE TO SEE YOUR ACCOUNT BUT IF YOU HAVE TO DO WITHOUT AN ACCOUNT, OR ONE THAT WAS IN SAY, ST. LOUIS, YOU COULD FLY THEM IN ONCE A MONTH AND HAVE YOU KNOW, GET TO KNOW THEM AND THINGS.

I THINK YOU'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE A BODY VERSUS NOTHING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW YOUR. >> ACCOUNTING NEEDS TO BE HERE. [LAUGHTER] IT'S JUST PERSONAL.

>> MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THE ENGINEERS THAT WE'VE HAD TO HIRE, AGAIN, AS ANDY SAID, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO RECRUIT, I THINK THE NUMBER WAS CLOSE TO 150, THAT WAS THE TOP OF THE RANGE 143 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. BUT WE WERE NOT GETTING ANYBODY IN. WE DID GET A PERSON WITH TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AT ONE POINT THAT CAME.

THE SCALE FOR HIRING THEM, IS MUCH HIGHER.

THIS NOT JUST A HUTTO PROBLEM. IT IS A MARKET ISSUE.

THE ENGINEERING FIRMS WE HIRED IN TERMS OF GARVER, HAVE HAD PEOPLE PHYSICALLY BE HERE, WHICH HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO OUR STAFF MEMBERS. SO THAT THEY CAN GO AND CONSULT THEM AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THEM OUT TO SEE THIS THING OR THAT THING, AND THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT A REMOTE ENGINEER THAT COMES HERE MIGHT NOT WORK, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE HAD A FIRM WITH SOMEBODY DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. THEY DON'T REALLY COME HERE, WE HAVE HAD TWO PEOPLE LOCATE HERE PERMANENTLY.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS COME HERE FOR A DAY OR TWO PER WEEK. THE OTHER THING THAT WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO, WAS WHITE IN OUR BANDWIDTH AND ENGINEERS.

WE HAD TO HIRE THREE OR FOUR WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN BAND WITH.

BUT IF WE HIRE A FIRM AND COUNSEL THANKS WE WANT TO RAMP UP ON A BUNCH OF PROJECTS, WE CAN USE THE FIRM AND THEY BRING OTHER PEOPLE TO THE TABLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM HERE FULL-TIME. WE ARE TRYING TO BE A SMART ABOUT AS WE CAN. WITHIN THE MARKET AND CERTAINLY YOUR NEW MANAGER SHALL HAVE MANY IDEAS THAT THEY CAN BRING

TO END TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT IT. >> WE HAVE SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FOR -- IN THE GENERAL FUND INTO THE UTILITY FUND WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY DECISIONS ON WHAT ANY PERCENTAGES FOR EITHER OF THOSE. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE INSURANCE PAID HEALTH INSURANCE BIDS ARE COMING IN RIGHT NOW.

BROKERS ARE WORKING ON COLLECTING THOSE AND STAFF WILL

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BE REVIEWING THOSE. WITHOUT THAT PEACE WHICH IS A BIGGER PIECE OF THE BUDGET, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM PLACED BEFORE MAKE DECISIONS ON COLA AND MERIT GOING FORWARD.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME MONIES ALREADY EARMARKED FOR THAT IN

THE BUDGET. >> THE OTHER THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REMEMBER ON THAT, ONE OF THE THINK THE BUDGET HAS IN IT IS THAT, A SALARY AND BENEFITS SURVEY.

AND SO, HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE SALARY BENEFITS SURVEY. BEFORE YOU COMPLETE THE DECISIONS ON WHAT TO DO IN TERMS OF INCREASES AND THAT

SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. >> THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURE INCREASES THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THIS BUDGET. WE ARE MOVING FROM BUYING VEHICLES IN SOME DEPARTMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LEASE THE VEHICLES.

THIS ENSURES THAT WE HAVE A REGULAR ROTATION OF THOSE VEHICLES. WHICH WE HAVE NOT DONE WELL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THIS ALLOWS US TO SAY NO, WHAT EVERY FIVE YEARS, THIS MANY VEHICLES WILL BE TURNED OVER AND REPLACED, SO THAT THEY DO HAVE, PARTICULARLY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE NEWS VEHICLES AND OTHER VEHICLES ON THE ROAD THAN DRIVING 2008 AND 2012 VEHICLES WHICH SOME ARE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE IN THE AREA. VEHICLE LEASES ARE BECOMING VERY POPULAR. UNDER THE CITY OF PFLUGERVILLE HAS CONVERTED THEIR ENTIRE FLEET TO VEHICLE LEASE.

ALONG WITH SOME OTHER CITIES AND SEVERAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS BUT THAT'S THE WILL KNOW FOR SURE IN THE AREA.

AND SO, THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS BECOMING, BECAUSE YOU CAN SET BRING THE SCHEDULING OF THAT THE VEHICLES WERE TURNED OVER THEY DO HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM WE GET THE CREDIT.

IN FIVE YEARS WHERE YOU GET THE VEHICLE SOLD WHATEVER THEY GET ON IT COMES BACK AND GIVES CREDIT AGAINST THE NEW VEHICLES. IT WORKS TO HELP US MANAGE SOME OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TURNOVER FOR SUSPENDING HAVING TO BUDGET 500,000 WORK $600,000 A YEAR TO REPLACE VEHICLES. THE BUDGET FOR THE LEASE WHEN THE LEASE ALSO INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, THAT HELPS IN THE FLEET DEPARTMENT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STAFF OR A LOT OF ROOM EVEN RIGHT NOW TO DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

LINK LEASE INCLUDES A AND HAVE OVER HUNDRED VENDORS WITHIN 20 MILES OF US THAT CAN DO ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING EXCEPT TIRES. THAT ONE THAT WOULD PROBABLY THE MOST TIRES ARE THE PD VEHICLES BUT IT DOES INCLUDE A SET OF BRAKES, IF THE TRANSMISSION WERE TO GO OUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ALL THE OLD CHANGES AND EVERYTHING.

THAT IS ALSO A GOOD BENEFIT BECAUSE IT HELPS ENSURE YOU KNOW IT KEEPS THOSE, WE ARE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY GET THEM IN AND GET THEM MAINTAINED AND BACK ON THE ROAD.

WITH ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE FLEET DEPARTMENT SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER. WE DO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT IS IN THE CITY MANAGERS BUDGET RIGHT NOW BUT THERE IS ALSO REVENUE IN THEIR AND A GRANT TO HELP KIND OF OFFSET SOME OF THAT, BUT TO CREATE THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WE DO HAVE COMPENSATION IN A STUDY BUDGETED IN NATURE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND GET THAT DONE AND HAVE A BETTER PROGRAM. WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO THE STREET MAPPING THAT COMES BACK WE EXPECT THAT THEY WANT TO DIVIDE AREAS WHERE WE NEED MAINTENANCE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO GET GOING ON THAT.

WE'VE ALSO INCREASED PROX MAINTENANCE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE THINGS TO BE DONE THERE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN. WE WANT TO GET MOVING ON THOSE.

THEN THE RECREATION PROGRAMS THEMSELVES HAVE QUITE A FEW COSTS. BUT AGAIN, IT HAS REVENUE TO OFFSET THAT. WE HAVE SHOWN THAT REVENUE IN THERE. WE'VE ADDED A LITTLE BIT MORE FACILITY MAINTENANCE. WE ARE SEEING THAT WITH AN OLDER FACILITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE REPAIRS OVER THERE. WE HAD TO INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO CREATE IS A FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT PLAN SO THERE'S MANY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THERE.

TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND LOOK AT ALL FACILITIES, TELL US YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ROOF WOULD NEED TO BE TO PLACE OR WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONERS. ALSO KIND OF LOOK AT THE FACILITIES THEMSELVES. ARE THEY SUFFICIENT? WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW ONE OR HOW SHOULD WE DO SOME OF THAT? TO HELP US LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE.OT JUST MAINTENANCE BUT IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THE ROAD. HOW DID WE DO THAT? WE TALKED ABOUT FUEL, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE ALL PAYING FOR THAT SO WE KNOW IT HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.E'VE HAD TO INCREASE THE BUDGET. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SHORT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. WE WILL PROBABLY BE COMING BACK WITH BUDGET AMENDMENTS LATER. ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THAT. THEN INSURANCE.

WE ARE SEEING THE PROPERTY MY BUILDING INSURANCE, THEY TOLD US IS GOING UP SO, JUST EXPECT THAT WITH THE COST OF THINGS

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GOING UP. THE PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING UP ON ALL OUR FACILITIES BUILDINGS.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT.

WILL INCREASE THAT IN THE BUDGET TOO.

THEN THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS WE SEE INCREASE UTILITIES LIKE A LOT OF PLACES BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW THE ELECTRIC GOING UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE HAD TO INCREASE A FEW OTHER LINE ITEMS IN THERE. AND THEN THIS IS THE BUDGET CALENDAR GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE OF THE HIGH POINTS IN WHAT'S NEXT. AT THE NEXT MEETING WILL DO A CAP PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION AND REALLY GO THROUGH AT THE END OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET THERE IS A CIP LIST AND IS KIND OF THE FORMAT WE ARE LOOKING AT USING, YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ON THAT WILL BE HAPPY IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO SEE DIFFERENTLY. WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO SPECIFICALLY REALLY GET INTO THE LIST AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S URGENT AND WORK ON MAKING SURE WE HAVE THAT PRIORITIZED CORRECTLY AND THE FUNDS AND TIME A LOT OF PROJECTS AND WILL BRINGING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

ON AUGUST 4, I'LL PRESENT THE PROPOSED BUDGET WHICH HAS TO BE ACCEPTED BY COUNSEL BECAUSE IT IS THE ONE THAT GOES ON THE WEBSITE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION BY THE PUBLIC.

WE HAD TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE MAKE THE DEADLINE, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

ON THE 18TH OPPOSITE THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLES AND WILL TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATES. AND ALL THAT THERE.

THEN ON THE FIRST WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND FIRST READING TO ADOPT. ON THE 15TH WILL HAVE THE SECOND MEETING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AND VOTE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE. THOSE, WE HAVE A LOT COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS. GOING BACK A SLIDE, PLEASE.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ON AUGUST 4, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL WORK WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNSEL.

YOU'LL GET A MAJOR PRESENTATION ON SOME FUNDING FOR BONDS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING.

>> POSSIBLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.

>> ON AUGUST 4. >> POSSIBLY ON THE 21ST.

>> OKAY I WILL GO EARLIER, NOT LATER.

THAT'S GOOD.>> HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY BUT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

>> I WANT TO IMPRESS UPON YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY VERY HARD FOR THE MEETING ON THE 21ST AND THE MEDIATION ON THE FOURTH, TO MAKE SURE WE ROOM AND TIME FOR YOU ALL TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND CIP ITEMS BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ITEMS. WE MAY MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND AND DELAY THEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE YOUR ATTENTION FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO WE CAN DISCUSS THEM IN DEPTH. GOOD ONE, APPRECIATE IT.

>> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL?

>> YOU ARE ALWAYS FREE TO EMAIL THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING LATER THAT YOU THINK ABOUT.

IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND YOU WANT TO MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF, WILL BE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE A MEETING TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING WITH YOU. YOU CAN LET US KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU NEED. WE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANYTHING. >> WE WILL TEND TO SHARE SOME OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ASKED BY MORE THAN, ESPECIALLY THE QUESTION GETS ASKED BY MORE THAN ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILL PROBABLY SHARE THAT WITH ALL OF YOU.

SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE THAT IN THE BACK OFYOUR MINDS .

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL AS ANGIE SAID, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MEETING, TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH ANGIE AND MYSELF, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

WHATEVER HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER, WE WOULD BE MORE

THAN HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU. >> ACTUALLY SOMETHING TO ADD.

JUST LOOKING OVER THIS AND SOME AGENDA ITEMS I'VE ASKED FOR AND SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE WE WILL BE TALK ABOUT LATER.

BUT JUST, LEGAL PROBABLY HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ON IT. AND PERSONALLY, I JUST THINK IT IS ALL BECOME REALLY GREAT AS FAR AS WHICH BUCKET EVERYONE IS PULLING OUT OF WE HAVE SO MUCH LITIGATION GOING ON.

FOR ME, THAT WILL BE A BIGGER ONE THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATELY BUDGETING FOR AND WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SPENDING. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF BUCKETS GOING ON AS FAR AS LEGAL EXPENSES.

>> MOST OF THOSE, THE ONGOING LITIGATION IS NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND, IS BEING CHARGED INTO OTHER FUNDS.

WHICH I CAN IDENTIFY THE AND WILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU.

>> GOTCHA. I THE WHOLE ENTIRE THING AND THING THAT WOULD HAVE THE MOST BLANKS.

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THERE WAS JUST NO INFORMATION. >> THAT'S WHERE WE USED TO HAVE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT WHEN WE HAD AN IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY.

NOW THAT IS IN THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL.E HAD THE AS PART OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DOWN THERE.

IT'S JUST A CONTRACTED LINE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU. >> AND WHEN I HAVE IS ON PAGE 25. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DONE WITH THE YEAR BUT WE'RE SHOWING THAT WILL HAVE BASICALLY A ALMOST $7 MILLION SURPLUS ANY BALANCE VERSUS WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR.

IT SHOWS THE UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE OF 18 MILLION.

THEN PROPOSERS AND WE DROP DOWN TO 11.

WHERE DO THE $7 MILLION GO? >> I THINK IS A FORMULA EARLIER. IAPOLOGIZE, WE WILL CORRECT

THAT. >> BECAUSE I WAS LIKE MAN !

>> I THINK IS PULLING THE WRONG BALANCE TO START THE 23 YEAR. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

WE WILL CORRECT THAT. >> YES.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. >> IT IS PULLING THE 21 INSTEAD OF THE 22 ESTIMATE HERE.

WE WILL CORRECT THAT, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

>> OKAY I WAS LIKE OKAY WE HAVE $7 MILLION THAT JUST VANISHED! THAT WAS MY ONE THING.

>> AND WITH SALES TAX REVENUES WE ARE SEEING, SOME OF THE EXTRAS, INABILITY TO FILL SOME OF THE POSITIONS WE'VE HAD, AND SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL ONGOING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE SEEING THE LARGE NUMBER.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A SIMILAR NUMBER ON THE BOTTOM YOU KNOW FOR 21. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE, AND THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS HOW IT WAS DONE IN THE PAST BUT THIS IS HOW I'VE ALWAYS DONE IT. WE BRING BACK THE PROPOSED BUDGET WILL SHOW THE WAY USING FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND. THERE WILL BE THINGS LIKE GENERATORS AND UDC THAT WE NEED TO CARRY FORWARD.

THEY WILL FALL INTO THE 6.9 MILLION, THEY BEEN APPROPRIATED IN THE CURRENT YEAR. WE WILL THEN SHOW THEM TO THE FUND BALANCE NEXT YEAR SO WE WILL APPROPRIATE THEM AGAIN.

BUT TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE WITH A WOMAN TO COME OUT OF HIS CURRENT YEAR, -- THIS BIG WORD FOR THIS BUILDING IS NOT NG IN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS IT WILL BE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BEFORE WE HAVE THAT COME WITH THE MONEY APPROPRIATED IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THE UDC.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT WILL NOT GET STARTED UNTIL PROBABLY AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME. THAT WILL CONTINUE WELL INTO THE YEAR SO WE WILL MOVE IT OVER.

BUT I WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE LIST AND I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU. IT WILL LOOK LIKE IT IS USING FUND BALANCE BECAUSE IT IS BECAUSE THOSE THINGS DID NOT

GET SPENT IN THE CURRENT YEAR. >> OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I NOTICED. I THINK WE HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD TREND OF THE PERCENT OF PROPERTY TAXES TO THE REVENUES DROPPING IN THE SALES TAX PERCENT INCREASING, BACK IN LIKE 2018, REVENUES AND PROPERTY TAXES, LAST YEAR IT WAS 40 PERCENT. AND THEN SALES TAX WENT FROM 25 PERCENT, UP TO 31 PERCENT. EACH YEAR IT SEEMS LIKE SALES TAX HAS GONE UP A PERCENT, 2020 JUMPED 4 PERCENT.

2021 WAS THE SAME. I SAW THAT AS SEEING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRESS IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

HE ANSWERS SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ALREADY.

>> I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF THE PROPERTY TAX ALSO, IF WE ADD LARGER COMMERCIAL TO THAT, TO THE BASE, YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THAT GAP SPREAD AGAIN. BUT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE ARE ADDING IS RESIDENTIAL, IT IS NOT, THE

DOLLARS ARE NOT AS LARGE. >> YEAH, FULLY 2020 DROP THE PERCENT AND THEN IT'S GONE UP FROM 42 PERCENT TO 45 PERCENT.

ISAAC INFORMED ME THAT WE ARE TAKING A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH UNTIL JULY 30. ANY EXTRA REVENUE FROM INVESTMENT PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL.

THAT NUMBER EXPECT WILL CONTINUE TO DROP.

ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, JUST IN GENERAL WHAT IS THAT HUGE OF A NUMBER OVER THE WHOLE CITY.

START ONE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF YOU SPEND TWO OR $3 MILLION ON CONSULTANTS, I KNOW THAT EVERY TIME AN EMAIL GETS SENT TO THE CONSULTANTS THEY CHARGE YOU BY THE 15 MINUTES OR PER EMAIL. CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE BILLING US BUT IF IT IS LIKE I'M USED

TO. >> AND THEIR OTHER SERVICES IN THERE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE STAFFING FIGURES $400,000 IN CONTRACT MOWING AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

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BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF OBVIOUSLY, WITHIN THE STREETS AND PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DO THOSE.

IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF OF TIME TO WORK ON THE PROJECTS THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINING THE PARKS, MAINTAINING THE ROADS, WE HAVE HAD TO CONTRACT OUT ALL OF THAT MOWING AND THAT IS A

LARGER NUMBER. >> I HAVE A COUPLE NOTES IN THE PARTS AND MAINTENANCE. WE HAD TO REPLACE A WOOD BRIDGE AND REPLACE LIGHTS. THE LAST TIME WE DID LIKE IT CAME OUT OF PARKS IMPROVEMENT FUND, THE DEVELOPERS WERE PAYING INTO. SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT TO USE THAT MONEY ESPECIALLY AS WE TRY TO GET DEVELOPERS TO PAY MORE. AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

THIS YEAR, WE PUT $100,000 -- PARKS AND RECREATION, I DIDN'T SEE A LINE ANYWHERE REMOTELY CLOSE TO 100 GRAND.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE 100 GRAND THIS YEAR IS TO KICK THINGS OFF

AND GET GOING BUT -- >> MOST OF THAT IS IN PERSONNEL. 70,100 IS IMPERSONAL.

IF THE PERSONAL NUMBER AND PARKS BECAUSE THAT IS FOR THE COUNSELORS AND STAFF. IT IS UP THERE, IT WILL BE

INCLUDED AS A SEASONAL LABOR. >> IN THE NASA HR WENT UP, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A PART-TIME GO TO FULL TIME WHICH MADE ME THINK IT MAY HELP ALLOW OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO GO DOWN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PICKING UP ANOTHER 20

HOURS. >> SOME OF WHAT IS IN HR IS THE COMPENSATION AND A STAFFING STUDY THAT WE DID HAVE BUDGETED

IN THERE. >> WE TALKED ABOUT ENGINEERING, MILLION 350 FROM ENGINEERING ALONE.

WE TALKED ABOUT ATTORNEYS AND ALL THAT BUT WE ARE ESTIMATING WE SPEND $1 MILLION ON ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I'M SURE SOMEBODY WILL SCRIBBLE WHAT LET'S SAY $450,000.HEN WE HAVE TO BE THINKING, SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THERE'S A HUGE GRAY SPOT THERE. NOW IT MILLION 350 AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY HOURS THAT IS OR WHAT.

>> HE IS PUT TOGETHER. NUMBER ACTUALLY CAME FROM WADE SO HE'S WORKED ON LIKE, WHAT IS FIRM WILL BE DOING VERSUS THE PROJECTS THE CONTRACTING FOR TO DO THIS WHATEVER INFORMATION WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU ON THAT. AND I WILL TAKE IS ALSO ANOTHER HALF MILLIONS IN THE UTILITY FUND FOR ENGINEERING.

>> AND THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE. I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAY THIS CONCERNS YOU BUT I THINK OF THE WE ARE THREE COGNIZANT OF.

IF WE HIRE AN ENGINEER FROM COMPANY A COMMON COMPANY A STARTS GETTING ENGINEERING BUSINESS FROM US, IF WE ARE GOING TO HIRE A PERSON THEN THE SHOW MUST BE EXCLUDED FROM DOING ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH THIS BECAUSE IF I WAS AN EMPLOYEE HERE, -- WHY WOULD I NOT TRY TO GET BUSINESS BACK? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S HAPPENING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, NO INCESSANT QUESTIONS.

UPDATE MILLION OR A MILLION 850, HOW MANAGERS GOING TO HOURS AND HOW MUCH IS ON POINT, THE BOYS GO BACK TO THE COMPANIES AND EITHER BECOME A VP BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME HIS BUSINESS OR MAYBE NOT BUT IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE HER BROKEN NO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. >> I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL -- PAGE 30 PETER WANG FROM -- OF

2,000,001. >> I CAN SAY THE 747 A SHOULD FOR THE COLA MERIT IS BEING BLOCKED AND SITTING IN THAT BUCKET RIGHT NOW. THAT WILL GO BACK DOWN WHEN WE RELOCATE THAT BACK TO SALARIES AND INTO THE PERSONAL COST WILL

MAKE THE DETERMINATION. >> ALRIGHT I WILL THINK OUTSIDE OF THAT. I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS VERY -- I DIDN'T -- THAT IS IT. PUBLIC WORKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE. NOW, WE ARE UP TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION FOR PUBLIC WORKS, SALARY AND BENEFITS. AS PART OF THAT CONSULTANTS?

>> WHICH PAGER YOU WANT, I'M SORRY?

>> 37. THAT NUMBER IS TRIPLED JUST IN TWO YEARS, WERE 400,000 TO TO 1.3 MILLION.

I DID NOT KNOW WHAT ALL WAS INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT MS LIKE IT'S GOING UP ROUGHLY 50 PERCENT PER YEAR.

>> AND THE SALARIES? >> YES SALARY AND BENEFIT IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AGAIN, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO 580 GO TO 555 TO BEGIN ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES? I DON'T KNOW.

>> THE PROFESSIONAL -- THAT'S WHY SAID THE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING COURSES IN THEIR COUNTRY AND THING THAT OUT.

IN THE CURRENT YEAR WE BUDGETED TO HIRE AN ENGINEER WHICH WOULD

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BE IN THE 22 BUDGET BUT THEN NOW WE HAD TO KIND OF RELOCATE SOME OF THAT AND WE HAVE MONEY PUT IN THEIR FOR ENGINEERING

SERVICES. >> OKAY SO IF YOU BUDGETED IN 2022, 526 SALARIES AND WE END UP NOT DOING THAT AND THEN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, NOW HAVE A NUMBER GOING TO 722.

>> MY OTHER QUESTION ON THAT ONE REAL QUICK, IF WE END UP DOING A LARGE PROJECT, RIGHT? CAN WE THEN REIMBURSE THE CITY WITH THAT WITH THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES? BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING ON ACTUAL APPROVED CRP PROJECT, THEN WE TAKE IT OUT YES IS IN THE OPERATING FUND AND WILL BE REFUNDED BACK THROUGH WATER IMPACT FEES OR DEBT.

>> IF THE BIGGER PROJECT AND WE START HERE WE WOULD REIMBURSE FROM THE DEBT ISSUANCE AND IS VERY COMMON.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET THIS KICKED OFF AND WE MIGHT USE IMPACT FEES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN REIMBURSE IT FROM THE DEBT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN AND WE ISSUED DEBT ON IT BUT YES, THE IMPACT FEES, EITHER ONE.

>> IF A ONE TIME CHARGE FOR THE BIG PROJECT THIS PROBABLY HOW WE HANDLE IT. IT IS A ONE OFF COST.

>> AND THOSE PROJECTS WILL HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED OUT.

SOME OF THE LARGER ONES, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO THAT PLUS EVERYDAY THINGS THAT WE ARE

DOING. >> I GET THAT.

WE JUST SEE $750,000, IS IT A PROJECT? IS IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WE ARE SCRUTINIZING EVERYTHING.

> SOME OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, SOME OF THE PUBLIC WORKS SALARIES WERE BEING CHARGED INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

WRITTEN ON THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS THERE AND FACILITIES WHICH THEY DO OVERSEE.

WE TRIED TO MOVE SOME OF THAT OVER INTO PUBLIC WORKS THERE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WASTEWATER. WE TRIED TO ALLOCATE MORE OF IT OVER THERE. WHICH ALSO FREES UP MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE GOT SOME OF THE MONEY.

>> SOME OF THE MONEY MOVING AROUND.

INITIAL PERSONAL THING HOW WE DO THAT.

I ALLOCATE THE SALARIES BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE DEPARTMENTS IN BOTH FUNDS. IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DID, I CHOSE TO DO THAT TO HELP MOVE SOME OF THAT AROUND.

>> FOR ME, AS LONG AS CONSISTENT.

ONE THING WE HAD THREE YEARS AGO, IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY TIME WE HAD, EVERY TIME WE HAD A FINANCIAL PRESENTATION, WE ARE CLOSING AN ACCOUNT, OPINION ACCOUNT AND MOVING MONEY.

I COULDN'T KEEP TRACK OF IT. AS LONG AS IS CONSISTENT WE CAN START GOING, YOU'RE COMPARING FIVE YEARS AGO WHERE WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DID IN 2019 OR 2018.

I GET THAT IS VERY TOUGH. >> IT IS.

I CANNOT SPEAK TO 2021, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANYTHING PAST THAT. SOME OF THAT IS JUST SOME LEEWAY I'VE TAKEN TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE SALARIES, TO PUT MORE OF THE SALARIES INTO, AND ALSO WHEN THE PREVIOUS PERSON WAS HERE, WHEN TONY WAS HERE, HE WAS ALSO OVERSEEING PARKS ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS. SO THERE WAS MORE OF HIS SALARY IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF THAT.

WHEN WE REPLACE THE FIELD SERVICES MANAGER, I DID TRY TO PUSH MORE OF THAT OVER INTO UTILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A LOT OF WHETHER THEY'RE DOING AND TAKE SOME OF THAT OUT.

OBVIOUSLY CAME OUT OF THE PARKS COMPLETELY BECAUSE WE WERE IN OVERSEEING THAT. THERE'S BEEN A MOVEMENT ON SOME OF THAT BECAUSE OF HOW WE'VE CHANGED SOME OF THE POSITIONS

IN THE BUDGET HERE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? THANKS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT

[14.3. Deliberate pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.074 regarding a complaint or charge against the Mayor under the City Council Protocols, Section 2(m), Violations of Protocols]

NIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT, EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 14.3 OUT. BEFORE WE GO BACK THERE.

UNDER 14.3, DELIBERATE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074 REGARDING A COMPLAINT OR CHARGE AGAINST THE MAYOR UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS, SECTION 2(M), IOLATIONS OF PROTOCOLS.

>> EXCUSE E. I REQUEST THAT THIS ITEM LOOKED AT. IT WAS MAY 19 MEETING, THE COMMENTS WERE MADE ONCE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ALSO, REPEATED IN PUBLIC SESSION. PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I WORKED WAY MORE HUMILIATED BY THE PUBLIC, THEN WHAT WAS SAID IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'VE GONE THROUGH OR RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING, WE WENT THROUGH -- WE HAD A LOT OF VERY STRONG LANGUAGE REGARDING HOW

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WE WOULD ADDRESS SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE.

TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT POSSIBLY, SOMEBODY COULD LOSE THEIR SEAT ON COUNCIL.

SOMETIMES I THOUGHT I SHOULD JUST LET THIS GO BUT IF WE DON'T START SOMEWHERE, AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WHEN INDIVIDUALS CROSSED THE LINE WHOEVER THEY ARE, THEN WE ARE WASTING OUR TIME BY COMING UP WITH PROTOCOLS AND PASSING RESOLUTIONS ON SEVERAL ITEMS. ANOTHER THING THAT WAS PART OF THIS, AND IT WAS AT THE SAME MEETING THAT I BELIEVE ALSO VIOLATED PROTOCOLS, WAS THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN AT THAT TIME COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON IN THE MAIL REGARDING THE MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT. I FELT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY AND WAS NOT BEING RESPECTFUL, ALSO VERY ACCUSATORY OF THINGS BEING SAID THAT NOW, MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON SAYS HE DID NOT SAY.

AND I WATCHED IT BACK TODAY. I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS, AS A COUNSEL, HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT WE WANT TO SET SO THAT WE CAN GET OF THESE BEHAVIORS.

THAT DO AFFECT THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP OF ALL OF US APPEAR. GOING INTO THIS CONVERSATION, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF OUR COUNCIL EXPECTATIONS, TO DISCUSS RESPECTFULLY AND NOT INTERRUPT, NO ACCUSATORY INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE, NO ACCUSATIONS OR DEFLECTING AND POINTING THE BLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, AND THAT WILL BE WHAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT