* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 2022 TO ORDER. FIRST IS ROLL CALL. UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BOYER, COMMISSIONER LAWYER HERE, AND COMMISSIONER MEYER HERE AND MYSELF, COMMISSIONER HUDSON. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT SINCE THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS FIRST. AGENDA ITEM IS UH, 4.1 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 2ND. THIS ONE IS COMING BACK BECAUSE OF CORRECTION. RIGHT. AND ANY COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA FROM AUGUST? AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 2ND MEETING AS PRESENTED. I WILL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. I'LL OPPOSED. SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM 4.2 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2022. UH, ONE POINT OF NOTE I DID, UH, I DID MAKE NOTE OF THE CORRECTION ON ITEM 4.5. WE'RE GONNA ADD COMMISSIONER IN FRONT OF DAVID MEYER. OTHER THAN THAT, ANY DISCUSSION ON LAST MONTH'S AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.2. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH WITH CORRECTION TO 4.5, ADDING COMMISSIONER IN FRONT OF DAVID MEYER. OKAY. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO I. NEXT IS ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED TITAN INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK, PHASE TWO, LOT THREE BLOCK ONE FINAL PLAT, 14.247 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE INDUSTRIAL LOT LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF LIER LOOP AND INNOVATION BOULEVARD. GOOD. NEED COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD. UM, ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. THIS PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF ONE, UH, CREATING ONE SINGLE LEGAL LOT THAT'S ALREADY ZONED, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO YOU CAN SEE AROUND, THERE'S SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL NORTH. THERE'S, UM, WELL REALLY THERE'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SURROUNDING THIS. THIS IS PART OF TITAN PHASE TWO. AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT ALSO OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONED, BUT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE EAST. UM, HERE'S JUST THE COPY OF LOT THREE BLOCK ONE. FIRST FACE. YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST A LARGE SINGLE BLOCK THAT WILL TAKE ACCESS FROM LIMBER AND THERE WILL BE SOME INTERNAL ACCESS EASEMENTS DURING SITE PLANNING WITH THAT. UM, THE FINAL PLAT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE, UH, WITH THE APPLICABLE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE DRAINAGE MEMO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE FINAL PLAT TYPE. VERIFY THE OUTFALL DETAIL ON SHEET C THREE TWO, UM, THAT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE UDC. AND THEN ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SES STORM TYPE THREE ANALYSIS. SO JUST A REALLY MINOR, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE. THESE, THIS MAKES SENSE TO THE SEALED ENGINEERS ON STAFF, BUT IT'S REALLY MINOR COMMENTS. AND THEN ALSO UPDATE THE UTILITIES SCHEMATIC TO SHOW THE CONNECTIONS TO THE EXISTING WATER WASTEWATER LINES BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO LIER. AND WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS WE HAVE. THERE'S PRIOR TO RECORDATION, WE NEED THOSE TWO THINGS TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. UH, QUICK QUESTION THERE. UH, IS THERE ANY DIRECT ACCESS TO LIER LOOP PLANNED? I'VE NOT SEEN A SITE PLAN, BUT I, UM, BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT SPACE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS LIER AND THEN ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL OF THESE LOTS ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE TIF. SO THEY SHOULD ALSO THEN BE PAYING INTO WHAT WE WILL BE USING TO UPGRADE SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS SURROUNDINGS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL HAVING SAFE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS. YEAH. MY, MY BIG QUESTION IS, [00:05:01] UH, I KNOW THAT THAT IS ON A UPS SLOPE IF YOU'RE HEADED MM-HMM. EASTBOUND. YEAH. AND IF WE'RE TALKING BIG RIGS EXITING THAT RIGHT. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WANT THEM TO, UH, USE TIF MONEY TO, UH, PAY FOR AN ACCELERATION LANE. OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP IN SITE PLANNING ONCE WE GET THROUGH. CUZ THE, UM, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO A TIA MM-HMM. , UM, AS PART OF THESE APPLICATIONS. SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME MITIGATION FACTORS THAT THEY CAN ALSO THEN LOOP INTO THEIR, UM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. CAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS ANOTHER LOT TO THE SOUTH TO GET DOWN TO ALLIANCE. AND NO, THIS WON'T EVER ACTUALLY DIRECTLY, YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE NEXT ONE. THIS WON'T REALLY EVER DIRECTLY, UM, CONNECT TO NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'LL BE A SACK. THE GRADES ARE SO DIFFERENT. OKAY. THAT TRYING TO GET BETWEEN THE TWO, THE WAY THAT PHASE ONE WAS BUILT, IT WOULD'VE NEEDED A RETAINING WALLS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. BUT IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OR UDC, THERE IS IS THE ALLOWANCE TO DO, UM, INDUSTRIAL LOTS BASED ON ACCESS EASEMENTS AND NOT FULL PUBLIC STREETS. SO THEY CAN STILL INTERNALLY ACCESS AND FIGURE THAT OUT WITH THE LARGER TRUCKS AND WHAT'S THE SAFEST MANEUVERING. OKAY. UH, WITHOUT IT HAVING TO BE A FULL CITY DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEN THE CITY HAS TO TAKE ON AS A DEPRECIATING ASSET. GOTCHA. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON 4.3? I HAVE JUST ONE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT DEDICATING TOO MUCH PUE IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO. UM, SO COMMENT NINES IS A 10 FOOT PUE IS HERE BY DEDICATED ALONG THE EAST LOT LINE. UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE SHOWING A 20 FOOT PUE. THEY KNOW IF WHICH ONE SUPERSEDES, IF THEY, IF IT'S A 20 FOOT PUE OR A 10 FOOT PUE ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. THEY'RE SHOW THEY'VE GOT A CALL OUT ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE FOR A 20 FOOT PUE. UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A CALL OUT ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, SAYS 15 FOOT PUE BY THE PLA. I KNOW THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE A A COMMENT TO ADDRESS IT, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OVERLY, UM, ADDING POES OVERLY A BURDENING OR BURDENING THE PROPERTY WITH ALL THESE PUE THAT THEY'RE NOT NEEDED. NO, I AGREE. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE OVERBURDENING IT BECAUSE THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD, UM, SOME ENCROACHMENTS ON THAT LOT TOO THAT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO, UM, THE WEST OF THIS LOT. SO DURING CONSTRUCTION THEY DID HAVE SOME ENCROACHMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. POTENTIALLY HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON ACTUAL ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE GAS LINE. UM, BUT I THINK WITH WHAT THEY PROPOSED THEY SHOULD BE OKAY. IF WE EVER DID NEED TO DURING SITE PLANNING REDUCE THOSE, WE WOULD JUST DO 'EM BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON 4.3? THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE, UH, HOLD ON A SECOND. I MOVE THAT WE, UH, RECOMMEND FOR, WHAT'S THE WORDING ON THAT ONE? YES, I RE I RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL FOR, NOPE, I CAN'T EVEN TALK RIGHT NOW. THIS, THIS IS FINE. AND NO COUNCIL WE APPROVE. YEP. FINAL LINES WITH PLANNINGS COMMISSION NOW. YEP. OKAY. SO WE APPROVE THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF. YES PLEASE. THANK YOU. SORRY. WOW. IT'S OKAY. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOYER, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEYER. UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSE SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM 4.4 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED TITAN INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK PHASE TWO LOT FOUR BLOCK ONE FINAL PLAT 17.509 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE INDUSTRIAL LOT LOCATED EAST OF THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF LIMMER LOOP AND INNOVATION BOULEVARD. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS UM, SECOND VERSE. VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST. AGAIN, IT'S A PROPOSED UM, SINGLE LOT TO JUST CREATE THAT ONE SINGLE LEGAL LOT CALLED LOT FOUR. IT IS SOUTHEAST OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER AND MENT, I'M SORRY, LIMMER AND INNOVATION. UM, SO AGAIN, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT'S REALLY SURROUNDED BY THE TITAN INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK AND THERE IS SOME UNDEVELOPED BUT ZONE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THIS. [00:10:01] BUT THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY AWAY FROM THE BACK OF THE EMORY FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WITH THAT, THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE JUST A 17 AND A HALF ACRE LOT. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT KINDA SURROUNDS THAT COVAL SITE THAT'S ALREADY UP AND RUNNING. THAT'S A LONG INNOVATION. UM, AND SO THIS ONE ALSO HAD ONE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, BECAUSE IT IS SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THEY NEED TO UPDATE THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND MODELING TO REFLECT THE LAST CLARIFICATION ITEMS RECEIVED ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2022. THERE IS AN OVERALL, I'LL EXPLAIN THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT. THERE IS AN OVERALL DRAINAGE, UM, PLAN THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED WITH THE PRELIMINARY MM-HMM. AND SINCE THEN SOME ITEMS HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE IN SOME OF THE CODES. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND JUST ENSURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE NEWEST REQUIREMENTS. BUT WE'RE ALL, WE CAN ALSO DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ON THEM AND SAY, GREAT, THAT WAS APPROVED. SO WE JUST NEED TO, UM, I BELIEVE ON THIS ONE THEY'VE CALLED OUT ATLAS BUT THEY DIDN'T TECHNICALLY HAVE TO. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR TS CROSSED AND EYES DOTTED ON THIS ONE. UM, LOOKING AT THE, UH, SATELLITE IMAGERY, I'M SEEING THAT THERE'S TEMPORARY ACCESS TO THE LOT ONE K V A L MM-HMM. . UM, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAYS? IS THERE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A CERTAIN DISTANCE BECAUSE NOT SEEING ACTUAL DRIVEWAYS ON LOT ONE AND THEN SEEING WHERE THIS IS GOING TO ACCESS INNOVATION? I'M THINKING THESE ARE SUPER CLOSE TOGETHER. THEY COULD BE. SO THERE IS A DRAINAGE AREA BEHIND THE CAVAL SITE AND, AND BEHIND, I MEAN TO THE EAST AND KIND OF IT SURROUNDS THAT LITTLE, UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON HERE, RIGHT. UM, IT'S TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY TO THE WEST. SO THEY WILL, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET ACROSS THAT DRAINAGE AREA, YES, WE WILL, UM, ENCOURAGE THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS. CUZ TYPICALLY BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS ON INNOVATION, YOU WOULD NEED ABOUT 420 FEET PER THE UDC MM-HMM. . SO ONCE WE GET INTO SITE PLANNING, THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. BUT AGAIN, THEY CAN ACCESS THROUGHOUT LOT TWO, UM, AS WELL AS LOT THREE. SO WE JUST WANNA SEE HOW THEY'RE COMING ACROSS. AND I BELIEVE ON THIS SITE PLAN, I'VE SEEN A DRAFT AND THEY WERE, LOOK, IT LOOKED LIKE THEIR ACCESS WAS GONNA COME MORE FROM THE NORTH, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE ONLY, I'VE SEEN A DRAFT OF A SITE PLAN, NOT ACTUALLY ANYTHING SUBMITTED. OKAY. UM, ONCE THIS, IF IT IS APPROVED AND THEN THEY, UH, COMPLETE THAT CONDITIONAL, UM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO, THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED ON HERE, THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SITE PLANNING AND ACTUALLY FULLY ENSURE THAT YES, THE ACCESS IS LEGAL, IT'S MEANING AT UDC THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO YEAH. OR THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A WAIVER FROM YOU FOR THEIR DRIVEWAYS. OKAY. OKAY. CAUSE NOT KNOWING WHERE LOT ONES DRIVEWAYS ARE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPACT LOT FOURS. YEAH. IF THEY'RE ACCESSING INNOVATION. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON, UH, THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.4 MOTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT WITH THE ONE OUTSTANDING, UH, STAFF. COMMENT SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEYER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOYER TO APPROVE 4.4 WITH, UH, AS WRITTEN WITH STAFF NOTE, UH, ANY DISCUSSION QUESTION ON THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. I'LL OPPOSE SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM 4.5. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED HERITAGE MILL SOUTH SUBDIVISION REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT 187.21 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 916 RESIDENTIAL LOTS LOCATED OFF FM 1660 SOUTH KERSS. THIS IS ONLY A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE REALLY IS NO ACTION NEEDED. BUT WE DID NOTICE FOR THIS, I'M EXPECTING THIS ONE WE'LL COME BACK ON THE NOVEMBER AGENDA AT THE EARLIEST. WE DO HAVE ONE LETTER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET OF OPPOSITION, BUT IT DID NOT SAY WHY. BUT AGAIN, PRELIMINARY PLAS HERE, UM, DESPITE STATE LAW BEING DIFFERENT, UM, WE DO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ALL PRELIMINARY PLATS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS BASED ON THE USE THAT WAS GRANTED, I BELIEVE IN 2019 OR IF THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL, I KNOW THERE WERE ALWAYS CONCERNS ABOUT THE DISTANCE OF THE POTENTIAL BACK OF HOMES TO THE CREEK. MM-HMM. TO THE OTHER HOMES ACROSS, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK. [00:15:03] ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS NO ACTION SIMPLY A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:16 PM AND WE HAVE NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:16 PM AND THAT WILL MOVE US ON. YOU CAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? BUT CAN, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT CONTACT INFORMATION OF THAT, THAT RESIDENT TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY OPPOSE THEY OBJECT IT SO THEY SENT IT IN. OKAY. SO THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. I DON'T HAVE A CONTACT OTHER THAN THEIR ADDRESS. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER EMAIL THAT I GOT, BUT IT WAS JUST MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION. IT WASN'T OPPOSITION, IT WAS JUST, HEY, WHERE ARE WE ON THIS? AND I'M LIKE, OH, WE'RE STILL, WELL WITHIN THE PROCESS OF, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA START SEEING DIRT MOVING OUT THERE FOR A WHILE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRICT HERITAGE MILL SOUTH? I BELIEVE THIS ONE'S THE ONE THAT'S IN LIKE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SORRY. OH, I DO NOT KNOW THAT YET. NO. I DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE A PROPOSED PIT OR NOT. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING COME IN AS A PIT. IT'S NOT ONE OF MY PENDING, IT'S NOT A PENDING PID RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS AN APPLICATION, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T ASK FOR IT LATER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS MAKE SURE IF UM, YOU, I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL AWARE, IT IS ALSO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH JUST WHY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS PRETTY SHORT TONIGHT SO EVERYBODY CAN GO UM, AND GET TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD GET TOGETHERS. UM, SO IT IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. I'M WORKING ON THE SUBMITTAL CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR. UM, ONE THING THAT WE ARE GONNA TRY TO WORK ON SURPRISE SURPRISES NOT TO HAVE A P AND Z MEETING ON NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AGAIN. UM, SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TUESDAYS AS IS P AND Z. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT MAYBE SWITCHING THAT TO A WEDNESDAY OR SOMETHING TO WHERE EVERYBODY CAN DO, UM, EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO AS PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO THAT'LL REALLY BE THE ONLY THING YOU'LL SEE COMING OUT OF US. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RATHER LARGE PROBABLY NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AGENDAS BASED ON WHAT WE JUST SAW COME IN YESTERDAY FOR THE MIDDLE DAY. I'LL STAY TUNED. IT'S ALWAYS FUN. . UM, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE GIVING ANY SORT OF UPDATE ON THE CPAC STUFF? NO. OKAY. YES, I CAN. . SO ZAK IS MEETING, CPAC IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, ACTION COMMITTEE. AND SO THAT'S REALLY JUST THE GROUP THAT WE, UH, WAS CHOSEN BY COUNCIL TO REALLY HELP GUIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS. WE HAVE SWITCHED UP A LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT'S WORKING POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A FEW MORE ON THE CALLS. WE'RE HOLDING LUNCHTIME TEAMS CALLS THAT ARE VIRTUAL INSTEAD OF DOING AFTER HOURS ON WEDNESDAYS. I THINK IT'S WORKING BETTER FOR NOT ONLY OUR CONSULTANT SCHEDULES, BUT IT'S KIND OF A LUNCH AND LEARN. I HAVE BEEN RECORDING THEM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT THEY STILL WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE HAD BEEN DOING AND REALLY GETTING THE NITTY GRITTY BECAUSE WE ARE NOW IN THAT LAST FINAL PUSH. WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY A DECEMBER ADOPTION. SO YOU WILL BE SEEING A LOT MORE. CPAC IS ACTUALLY LOOKING OVER CHAPTERS RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE HAVE THREE IN YOU'LL, YOU'VE HAD ONE. MM-HMM. , WE'RE REVIEWING TWO AND THREE. YOU'LL GET THOSE PROBABLY ON CPAC THIS WEEK. UM, SO REALLY JUST LOOKING OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING? DOES THIS REALLY JIVE WITH WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT? IS IT PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE HIPPO WAY? UM, EVEN JUST GETTING INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT THIS MAP TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE? AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT IN THE COMING, HONESTLY NOW WEEKS, NOW THAT WE'RE IN OCTOBER, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND SHOW YOU THAT. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT OVER TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A FEW READINGS AND STARTING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. SO IT'S GONNA BE, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THROW OUT THERE WHEN, UH, PARKS CAME AND TALKED TO US, UH, LAST MONTH MM-HMM. , THAT IS THE KIND OF COLLABORATION THAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CPAC. YEAH. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A MORE UNIFIED, LESS ONE HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER'S DOING TYPE OF PRODUCT. I THINK. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S BEEN A, UM, SO BENEFICIAL FOR THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAVE. THEY'VE ACTUALLY READ ALL THE OTHER MASTER PLANS, INCLUDING THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN AND ALL OF OUR IMPACT FEES, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED GETTING MORE PARKS, WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE REALLY NEED TO GET JEFF WHITE INTO THIS GROUP SO THAT WE CAN, EVEN IF HE'S NOT ON CPAC REGULARLY AND DOESN'T HAVE TO ATTEND REGULARLY, WE NEED ALSO HIS, YOU KNOW, HIS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. IT WAS ANOTHER ONE, WAYNE WATTS, WHO IS OUR INTERIM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS ON THERE BECAUSE WE WERE GOING OVER INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, HEY, DO WE NEED ANOTHER PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DO WE ACTUALLY NEED TO PLAN FOR THIS? DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANY STATEMENTS ABOUT CITY FACILITIES AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? AND SO REALLY TRYING TO TOUCH ON [00:20:01] EVERY DEPARTMENT SO THAT NOBODY, ONE, THAT EVERYBODY HAS REALLY CARED FOR IN THIS DOCUMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE, SEVEN YEARS. MM-HMM. . SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN RAMPING UP. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING ON FRIDAY. WE DID ONE LAST WEDNESDAY, ONE TODAY. WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE FRIDAY AND THEN WE'LL GET ANOTHER SCHEDULE GOING. UM, AND PROBABLY ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING AS WELL. MM-HMM. . SO IT'S GETTING REAL YOU GUYS, SO YEAH. AND JUST DON'T WORRY WHEN IT GETS ADOPTED. I'M GONNA CRY AND IT'S FINE. I'LL TOTALLY ADMIT IT NOW. I'M GONNA BE LIKE, THE BIGGEST LITTLE, UM, CRY BABY THAT NIGHT. WORTH IT. WORTH IT. A LOT OF WORK TO GET INTO THERE. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S BEEN A THREE YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT, SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING FOR THE CITY. ALL RIGHT. WELL IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND MOVE THE COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR NEXT OCTOBER, IF WE COULD DO IT A DAY OTHER THAN WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE ON A WEDNESDAY. OKAY. WE'LL DEFINITELY GIVE SOME OPTIONS. IT MAY JUST BE THAT WE PUSH IT OUT A WEEK AND IT'S STILL ON A TUESDAY. WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT ON THE ROOM SCHEDULES. I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT ON TUESDAYS IT GETS A LITTLE DIFFICULT, UM, LATER IN THE MONTH IF WE EVER WANTED TO HAVE TWO PNC MEETINGS, IF WE GET TO THAT POINT ON HOW BUSY WE ARE GETTING WITH DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT THEN THAT WOULD THEN CONTEND, I BELIEVE WITH HPC OR POTENTIALLY CBA. WHICH ONE? ONE OF THEM. ONE OF THEM. UM, AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT OUR GROUP DOES. SO WE CAN'T HAVE TWO CONFLICTING MEETINGS ON THE SAME NIGHT. SO REALLY STARTING TO LOOK AT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, WHAT IS THE CODE SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FULL CITY CODE MM-HMM. AND CHARTER THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, ABIDE BY. AND THEN ALSO THE UDC. SO TRYING TO GET THAT ALL CLEANED UP. DOKEY. ALL RIGHT. UH, NOTHING FURTHER. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN LET US ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:23 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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