[00:00:01]
MORNING, I'M SORRY, DID YOU ALL RIGHT.
[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
OFF TO WAIT FOR THE WASTEWATER MATCH REPORT.UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO GET AN UPDATE,
[4.1. Wastewater Master Plan (Wade Benton)]
UM, FROM ON THE WASTEWATER PLAN.SO, UM, WHETHER ON NET, TALKED ABOUT THE WATER SIDE OF THE UTILITY AND I TALK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER, UM, AREA.
THE TWO DARS GONNA WANT TO, UM, SIMILAR TO LAST TIME IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, IT WAS THROUGH MEANT TO BE WE OF A, THAT SLIDE HOPEFULLY GENERATE CONVERSATION PLAN AND SOME OF THE, SO I'M TO THANK YOU MARY.
IS THERE ANYBODY ON COUNCIL THAT'S HAVING ISSUES WITH EXCHANGE MICROSOFT EXCHANGE ON THEIR WORK PHONE STILL? IT CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS.
YEAH, YOU GOT MY PHONE ALREADY, YEAHS, I KICKED OFF THE UPDATES, SO I'M JUST WAITING ON THE UPDATES TO FINISH, SO I SHOULD BE OKAY.
OH YEAH, I'LL BRING YOU YOUR PHONE.
THE GENERAL STRUCTURE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I DO WANNA ECHO WADE'S, UH, COMMENT THAT PLEASE DON'T BE, DON'T HESITATE TO INTERRUPT ME AND, AND, AND HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT YOU HAD.
WE'RE GONNA RECAP SOME OF OUR GROWTH FORECASTS.
WE'RE GONNA TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, THE PH OF THE TREATMENT PLANTS FIRST, AND, AND WE HAVE SOME CONCEPT IMAGES TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UH, SPECIFICALLY AT SOUTH PLANT.
AND THEN ALSO WE'RE GOING TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA COVER THE MAPS, THE LARGE MAPS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE ARE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE LINE IN DETAIL.
WE'RE GONNA KIND OF COVER SORT OF THE BIG PICTURE THAT THE STORY BEHIND THE WAY THAT THE MAPS IS SET UP AND THE MASTER PLAN AND HOW FLOWS WILL TRANSITION THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
AND THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO SOME SPECIFIC HIGH SORT OF HIGH PROFILE PROJECT GROUPINGS THAT, UH, EXIST WITHIN THE OVERALL MAP STRUCTURE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OVERALL VIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF OUR FLOW PROJECTIONS.
THIS CABLE'S BROKEN DOWN, UH, BY THE WASTE WATER, UH, PLANT DRAINAGE AREAS.
THOSE DRAINAGE AREAS CORRESPONDS THE BACKGROUND COLORS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU SO THAT THE SORT OF, THE PEACH COLOR IS THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR THE SOUTH PLANT.
BLUE AREA IS THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR THE CENTRAL PLANT.
THAT IS, UH, THESE ARE THE DRAINAGE AREAS.
WHAT THEY WILL BE AFTER THE MASTER FINANCE IS IMPLEMENTED.
SO YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CENTRAL PLANTS SMALLER.
UH, A LOT OF THE GROWTH IS ANTICIPATED TO OCCUR AT THE SOUTH PLANT.
AND THEN THE, OF COURSE, THE TOTAL FLOW RATE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSE UP VERY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE FIVE YEAR, ONE DAY.
THIS IS A QUICK REMINDER OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE SERVICE AREAS, UH, THAT, UH, BETWEEN THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER SERVICE AREAS.
UM, A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF, UH, TOTAL AREA, UH, THAT, UH, INCLUDES THE, THE JONAH WASTEWATER CCM THAT'S BEING INCORPORATED BY THE CITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S REFLECTED IN WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, AND ON THIS MAP WE'RE ALSO SHOWING, UM, THE, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT ARE OCCURRING, BOTH IN TERMS OF, UH, CURRENTLY APPROVED, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS ACTIVE S SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.
THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.
THOSE ARE THE NUMBERED, UH, POLYGONS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.
AND THEN, UM, FUTURE ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDES THE MEGA SITE AND THEN THE, THE TAILOR AREAS THAT GONNA BE STARTED OUT TO THE EAST.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO THIS, THIS IS BLOWN UP ON THE HANDOUT THAT YOU HAVE IN PART OF YOU, MY 17.
SO TALKING QUICKLY ABOUT THE SOUTH PLANT.
SO IN TERMS OF THIS GROWTH FORECAST THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE DRAIN AREAS, IT'S A BIT THAT ARE GONNA BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE SOUTH PLANT.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE MOST GROWTH IN TERMS OF THE CONCENTRATION OF FLOW AROUND THE SYSTEM.
UH, WE, UH, LOOKED AT THE PLANT AND THE EXISTING PROCESSES AND, AND BROUGHT THROUGH SOME, UH, SOME, SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND PHASING TO BUILD THIS PLANT OUT.
UH, WE REVIEWED THOSE WITH CITY STAFF AND, AND, AND LANDED ON THIS, THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THIS INVOLVES, UH, THERE'S A FEW EFFORTS THAT ARE SORT OF FRONT LOADED IN THIS PROCESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, THE PLANT SORT OF THE DEMAND ON THE PLANT, WHICH IS REFLECTED BY THE BLUE BARS, BLUE VERTICAL BARS IN, IN EACH YEAR.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, THERE'S, THERE'S A, A DEFICIT OR I GUESS A DEFICIT IN CAPACITY OF THE PLANT.
UH, JUST WHILE WE GET THAT PLANT DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UH, WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THAT IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
[00:05:01]
PAPER RERATE THAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A COUNCIL PRESENTATION.THAT'S JUST GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS, UH, THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BAKED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE PLANT, REEVALUATING THOSE, NOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OF DATA, UH, FOR ILU, UH, FLOW VOLUMES, EQUALITY AND, AND ATTEMPTING TO RERATE THE, THE CAPACITY THAT PLANT BASICALLY BUMP IT UP JUST ON PAPER.
THAT'S A PERMITTING THING WITH T CQ.
SO WE WE'RE SHOWING THAT A A HALF MGD IMPROVEMENT THERE.
UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXPECTED BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE PLANT AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO AT THIS POINT.
OF COURSE, THAT IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TCQ.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UH, AT, AT THIS MOMENT.
UH, ANOTHER PART OF THAT GAP IS GONNA BE COVERED BY, UM, A FLOW BALANCING, UH, SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SETTING UP BETWEEN THE SOUTH AND CENTRAL PLANT.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE BECOME POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR PROJECT THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THAT IS ACTUALLY INSTALLING, UM, IT'S INSTALLING LIST STATION THAT THE CENTRAL PLANT TRANSFER FLOWS SOUTH, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE KEEPING THAT GLENWOOD LIFT STATION ONLINE AS WELL, SO IT CAN ALSO TRANSFER FLOWS NORTH THROUGH THE SAME PIPE.
SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF RUN THE SAME PIPE IN TWO DIRECTIONS AND, AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE AVAILABLE CAPACITY TO HAVE AT CENTRAL TO HELP US BRIDGE THAT GAP WHILE WE GET THE, THE GENERAL EXPANSION SOUTH, THE SOUTH PLAIN UNDERWAY.
SO WE'RE NOT DECOMMISSIONING ONE.
WE'RE GONNA HOLD ONTO THAT FOR, FOR A FEW MORE YEARS.
AND, AND, AND IT MAY REQUIRE A COUPLE OF BANDAIDS ON THAT LIST STATION, BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT ACTIVE JUST BECAUSE WE, WE WANNA HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE WAYNE IN A SCREWS BE ABLE TO BRIDGE THAT GAP.
AND THE 33 INCH INTERCEPTOR AND THE TWO NEW LIFT STATIONS, THOSE ARE 90% DESIGNED OR THEY, THEY'RE PRETTY FAR ALONG AND, UH, AND, AND THOSE, THERE WILL BE SOME REVISIONS THAT THEY MAKE TO THAT TOO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT BRIDGE, UH, WE ARE SHOWING INITIAL EXPANSION OF SIX MGD.
THAT'S, UH, TAKING THE PLAN UP TO SIX MGD.
SO THE INITIAL EXPANSION WILL BE MORE LIKE FOUR MGD.
IF YOU COUNT THE RERATE, THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT MIGHT BE SIX AND A HALF OF THE PLAN, BUT WE JUST, WE DIDN'T WANNA MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS AND UNDERSHOOT OUR PLAN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING SIX MGD FOR AN INITIAL EXPANSION.
AND THEN, UH, THE, THE, THE TOTAL PERMIT IS UP AT 15 AND HALF, ROUGHLY 16.
SO, UM, WE'RE SHOWING, UH, GOING UP NOW TO SIX, DOUBLING THAT PLANT, GET TO 12 AND THEN MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE HAVE TO THE, THE PERMIT CAPACITY AT 15.
AND MOST OF THE EXTENSIONS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, NOT THE CENTRAL.
WE DO PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT TO TRY AND FIT IN MORE GRAVITY LINES AND JUST USE ITS OWN OR WHAT IS THE THOUGHT? UM, PART OF IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE PERMIT.
THE, THE DISCHARGE PERMIT THAT, UH, EXISTS AT THE PLANT.
UM, THE SOUTH PLANT GOES UP TO 15 AND A HALF, AND D THE PLANT JUST GOES UP TO THREE AND A QUARTER, UM, SPACE AVAILABLE.
AND IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE SPACE.
IT'S JUST SORT OF THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION OF THE CENTRAL PLANT AND WANTING TO, TO TREAT THAT WATER AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WHAT WE CALL TODAY AND THE EDGE OF TOWN.
SO THAT SHOWS IN 2025, WE'RE QUITE A BIT BELOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
ARE WE IN TROUBLE WITH TCEQ AT THAT POINT? I MEAN, WHAT'S, SO THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE, THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION EFFORT ON THAT PLANT IS, IS FIRST OF ALL, TALKING WITH THE RERATE, GETTING AS MUCH COVERED BY THE RERATE AS WE CAN, GETTING AS MUCH COVERED BY THE FLOW BALANCING OPERATION AS WE CAN AT GLENWOOD.
BUT ALSO, UM, IF, IF, IF THESE PROJECTIONS PLAY OUT THE WAY THEY ARE, WE DO HAVE SOME TIME AND AVAILABILITY TO PROCURE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PACKAGE UNITS, SOME RENTAL UNITS, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT IN LINE WITH THE FLOW STREAM TO, TO HELP JUST KIND OF MANAGE THAT THAT COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO TCQ, AS LONG AS THEY KNOW WE'VE GOT A PLAN AND WE'RE FIGURING THINGS OUT AND IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, I JUST WAS WORRIED THAT WE WERE GONNA BE LIKE, OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING FINES OR WHATEVER.
CAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE TRIGGERS, T C Q WHATNOT AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE PLANT IS WHAT CERTAINLY SOME OF THOSE ARE DOWN ON THIS GRAPH, YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINES, THE DASH LINES BELOW THE SOLID LINES.
THE SALT LINES ARE AT THE TOTAL CAPACITY, THE READY CAPACITY OF THE PLANT.
THE, THE SMALLER DASH LINE IS THE 90% LINE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A 75% OF CAPACITY LINE BELOW THAT.
UH, TCQ REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THE PLANT B AND DESIGN WHEN IT HITS THE 75% LINE.
AND IN CONSTRUCTION WHEN IT HITS 90%.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE DRIVING, UH, SOME OF THOSE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WINDOWS ON THIS GRAPH.
SO DESIGN AT 75 AND THEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT 90.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PARTIALLY WHAT'S
[00:10:01]
STRIVING THOSE INITIAL EXPANSION PHASES.ANOTHER THING THAT'S STRIVING IT IS THE DESIRE TO NOT HAVE OVERLAPPING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
SO WE DON'T WANNA LIKE START BUILDING ONE THING AND THEN HAVE TO START BUILDING ANOTHER THING WHILE WE'RE STILL BUILDING THE FIRST THING.
AND, AND THAT REALLY, THAT REALLY ESTABLISHES THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PHASE.
AND THEN, UH, ALSO JUST ALLOWING SOME TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, DESIGN.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE DESIGN EFFORT FOR THE 12 MGD EXPANSION MIGHT HAVE TO OVERLAP THE CONSTRUCTION OVER THE PREVIOUS EXPANSION A LITTLE BIT.
IF, IF THESE PROJECTIONS BE PLAY OUT.
THIS GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE OVER THERE.
NOW, IN THE PAST WE HAVE, WE HAD GROWTH RATE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND IT FOUND OUT THAT DATAS LEFT OFF THE BOARD AND WERE LY UNDER NOW BACK WHY WE'RE IN SITUATION THIS ACCELERATED MOMENT.
SO I CURIOUS HOW ACCURATE WE THINK THESE GROWTH RATES ARE FOR LS BETWEEN 3 24 5, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM? WELL, WE THINK THEY WERE PRETTY AGGRESSIVE AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE AGGRESSIVE IN THE EARLY YEARS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE BASED DIRECTLY ON DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE KNOWN AND APPROVED, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY BASED ON DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE SIGNATURE WEDDING ON THEM AND ARE, ARE MOVING FORWARD.
NOW WE'VE SEEN A FALL OFF IN NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALSO, I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM WAS MENTIONING THAT, THAT THEY THOUGHT THINGS WERE GONNA TAIL OFF, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD FULL STEAM.
THAT MAY BE A UNIQUE CASE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL DRIVERS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, RAISING NICHOLS, THEIR INITIAL GROWTH ESTIMATES WERE SHOWING LIKE A 30% GROWTH RATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS, WHICH IS QUITE A BURST IN POPULATION.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SCRAMBLING TO COVER HERE WITH THIS FIRST EXPANSION.
UM, IF THEY TURN NOT TO BE STEEPER THAN THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET CREATIVE.
UM, BUT THESE, THESE ARE ALREADY STARTING OUT AND, AND I THINK WE AGREED ON THE WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE GROWTH SCENARIOS AND WE PICKED THE MOST AGGRESSIVE ONE BECAUSE IT WAS BASED IN THE HARD NUMBERS THAT WERE OF DEVELOPMENTS.
THESE NUMBERS HAD THE 30% GROWTH AND POPULATION FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO WE'RE ADDING NINE TO 10,000 PEOPLE, WHICH BE HOW MANY HOME? WELL, SOME, SOME OF THAT MAYOR COULD BE, IT'S NOT ALL RESIDENTIAL.
SOME OF IT'S COMMERCIAL, SOME IT INDUSTRIAL, UM, THAT'S BASED ON DEMAND.
UM, BUT BAKED INTO THAT ARE THOSE RESIDENTIAL EMPLOYMENTS THAT WE KNOW HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND KIND OF THE TREND WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, YEAR AND A HALF.
UH, AND TRYING TO TEMPORAL THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S A GOOD MEMBER ALREADY APPROVED AND MOTION.
SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS INCLUDES THE MEGA SITE AND SOME OF THE RCR TRACKS.
I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THIS FIRST EXPANSION ANYWAY.
IF IT SLOWS DOWN A LOT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DELAY THE SECOND ONE IF, IF WE GET THERE.
BUT THAT'S THREE YEARS OUT BEFORE WE HIT DESIGNING THAT.
SO WE'LL KNOW MORE WHEN WE GET THERE.
WE'RE JUST SHOWING THAT OVERLAP NOW.
BUT I MEAN, THE FIRST ONE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT SLOWS DOWN, I DON'T SEE IT'S GETTING OUT OF NEEDING TO BE GETTING INTO DESIGNING.
WE'RE READING THAT EXACTLY RIGHT.
BASICALLY WHAT THIS GRAPH IS TELLING YOU IS IF THINGS SLOW DOWN, THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD THING FOR US BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE TWO YEARS ALREADY TOO LATE ON TRIGGERING THE EXPANSION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS GRAPH IS TELLING YOU.
SO IF IT SLOWS DOWN, ALL THAT DOES IS START TO EAT BACK INTO THAT TWO YEARS THAT WE'RE BEHIND AND KIND OF LETS US CATCH BACK UP.
SO THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST TRANCHE OF THIS ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GO AND HAS TO GO IMMEDIATELY IF, IF IT HELPS KIND OF VISUALIZE.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY HIGH LEVEL, SO IT'S A MASTER FOUNDING LEVEL MOCKUP OF THE SOUTH PLANT EXPANSION PHASES.
UH, PHASE ONE, THE ADDITION OF FORUM GDS AND RED PHASE TWO IS IN BLUE.
I'M SORRY, PHASE TWO IS IN GRAY.
IT'S SORT OF THE PURPLEISH GRAY.
YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS SCREEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT TOO.
THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY PURPLE UP THERE.
UM, SO, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS IN MY NEW DETAIL.
A COUPLE OF OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I WANNA POINT OUT.
[00:15:01]
AND, AND WANTING TO RIGHT SIZE THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF THE PLANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, OVERTIME CONVERTING IT FROM A SEQUENCING BATTERY AFTER PLANT TO A, A UPLOAD THROUGH CONVENTIONAL ACTIVATED SLUDGE PLANT.UM, THAT'S A, A VERY TRIED AND TRUE TEST OF TECHNOLOGY AND ONE THAT THAT, UH, YOUR CONTRACT OPERATOR KNOWS, UH, WELL HOW TO OPERATE.
AND, UM, SO, UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ADDING SOME ELEMENTS TO KIND OF START US DOWN THAT PATH.
WE ARE GONNA RETAIN THE SBR, UH, SYSTEM FOR THIS, JUST THIS INITIAL EXPANSION.
ULTIMATELY THOSE BASINS WILL BE CONVERTED OVER TO SLEDGE HOLDING BASINS.
SO WE'RE GONNA RETAIN THE USAGE OF THOSE, UM, OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S NOT JUST GONNA GET DEMOED AND, AND WIPED OUT.
SO, UM, AND THIS, THE ADVANTAGE OF THE SOUTH PLANTS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF REAL ESTATE TO WORK WITH THE CENTRAL PLANT.
UH, AS, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S THE SMALLER PLANT.
WE DO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS OF CAPACITY AVAILABLE TO US IN THAT DRAIN AREA.
SO THAT, UH, AGAIN, IS THE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HABIT, THE FLOW, BALANCE AND APPROACH BETWEEN, UH, AT THE GLENWOOD LIFT STATION.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, A LONGER RUNWAY HERE FOR NEEDING A SUBSEQUENT EXPANSION, UH, UP TO, UH, TO GET UP TO THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT OF 3.25 MGD.
UM, THIS IS AS, AS WE MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, I WANNA MAKE A SIDE NOTE HERE.
THIS IS THE PLANT THAT WE'VE REALLY LOOKED CLOSELY AT USING, UM, MEMBRANE THAT, UM, MEMBRANE FILTERS.
UH, IT IS NOW, IT IS CURRENTLY, UH, A FLOW THROUGH ACTIVATED SLU, CONVENTIONAL ACTIVATED SLUDGE PLANT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE SUCH A CONVERTING SOUTH PLANT TOO.
UM, BUT IT'S VERY SPACE LIMITED'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, BEYOND RAILROAD TRACKING, UH, OFFICE 79.
AND SO, UM, WE HAVE AN ISSUE DISCUSSION WITH BOTH AVIVO AND AS WELL AS H DIGITAL INNOVATION, WHICH IS A PROPER SYSTEM WITH PRODUCT.
AND, UH, WE'RE SOLICITING PROPOSALS FROM BOTH, UH, BOTH OF THOSE VENTURE VENDORS TO DO SOME BASE RETROFITS, UH, TO ADD VR ANV PROCESS TO THAT PLAN, UH, TO REALLY BOOST ITS CAPACITY WITHOUT HAVING TO ADD A BUNCH OF, UM, NEW VERIFIERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE HEARD YOU GUYS ON THAT.
WE WANNA, WE WANNA HONOR THE, THE OF THAT BUSINESS IN NEW COMMUNITY AND GIVE 'EM A GOOD SHOT AT PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE IN THAT PROCESS.
WELL SAY THAT'S COST EFFECTIVE.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE SO EXPENSIVE WE DECIDE THAT'S NOT, WE JUST WON THAT GO WITH THE SLU ROUTE, BUT LET'S SAY IT'S COST EFFECTIVE AND IT MAKES SENSE.
SO WOULD WE, IF WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE THE SOUTH PLANT, WOULD WE NOT DO THE SAME THING THERE? WOULD, WOULD WE WANNA UPGRADE TO SOMETHING THAT WE GO, WELL WE JUST, THERE STILL A TECHNOLOGY BEHIND? OR DOES IT MAKE SENSE, DEPEND ON COST TO JUST JUMP A WHOLE GENERATION? WELL, I, I WOULD THINK OF MEMBRANES IN TERMS OF, UH, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR REAL, UM, I GUESS ECONOMIC BENEFIT IS IN SPACE CONSTRAINED PLANTS WHERE YOU CAN'T REALLY BUILD A, LIKE, LIKE CONVENTIONAL FIRES, RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD TECHNOLOGY.
UH, BASICALLY CON BASE AORS AND
UM, YOU CAN PRODUCE, UH, UH, A VERY CLEAN WATER WITH AN MBR SYSTEM, UH, AND THE VERY COMPACT FOOTPRINT, UH, UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN REALLY PUT A LOT OF CONCENTRATED FLOW, CONCENTRATED WASTE WATER.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN THROW AT IT AND IT CAN PRODUCE A CLEAN UPFLOW.
UM, HOWEVER, JUST THE, UM, THE UPFRONT CAPITAL COST OF INSTALLING THOSE IN A, IN A BASE AND THEN YOU HAVE A LIFE CYCLE OF, OF MEMBRANE REPLACEMENTS AND, AND UPKEEP AND UH, AND THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY KEEPING THOSE, UM, MEMBRANES ONLINE CAN, CAN LEAD TO A HIGHER, UH, KIND OF UNIT COST PER GOWN TREATED.
IT, IT DOES HAVE SOME OTHER BENEFITS LIKE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SECONDARY ARTICULATION, THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT UM, AGAIN, SINCE GIVEN, GIVEN THE SITUATION WITH THE SOUTH POINT WHERE WE KIND OF HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE TO WORK WITH AND WE CAN REALLY GO WITH A VERY KIND OF BASIC, VERY RIGOROUS, VERY RELIABLE TECHNOLOGY, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN.
THAT'S, UM, IT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW FROM THE SOUTH PLANT.
HOWEVER, UM, WE KIND OF, THE NEXT STEP AFTER ALL THIS IS CONCLUDED IS GONNA BE DIVING INTO THE, THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDY FOR THAT SOUTH PLANT SPECIFICALLY.
AND IN THAT REPORT WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT THE ECONOMIC BREAKDOWN.
SO WE COULD JUST MAKE THE DECISION.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO.
IT'S JUST THAT WAY YOU CAN AT LEAST TELL PEOPLE BASED ON THE DATA, THAT'S WHY YOU PICKED SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST, THAT'S WAY
[00:20:01]
WE HAVE IT ALL.THE, THE DIFFERENCE IS ON THE CENTRAL PLANT WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE, THE FOOTPRINT TO WORK WITH.
SO THE MEMBRANES ACTUALLY ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SOLUTION, UH, AT THAT PLANT.
BUT THE SOUTH PLANT, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE SUCH A LARGE AREA, THEN YOU HAVE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN PICK FROM.
SO MY ONLY QUESTION, DOES WE HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF I LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT, EVEN WITH THE REWRITTEN STUDIES, WE'RE AT TWO AND A HALF NOW WITH NO CONSTRUCTION RIGHT AT THE SOUTH PLANT.
AND YOU KNOW, BY 20 TO BIAS TIME, WOULD IT MAKE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO VERY QUICKLY EXPAND TO 1.7 AT THE CENTRAL PLANT TO BUY YOU THE TIME OVER 24, 25 VERSUS ONE OF THE THINGS, INSTEAD OF FITTING MONEY TO, TO CREATE THE SOUTH PLANT, IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY FEDERAL OF DOLLARS TO YOUR BRANCH FOR TWO YEARS WHILE WE'RE INSTRUCTING ALL OF THIS, WE PUT THAT MONEY INSTEAD AND ACCELERATE THE CENTRAL PLANT EXPANSION TO COVER THE GAP DIFFERENCE THE STUFF SOUTH, THE CENTRAL PLANT, SOUTH PLANT WOULD NEED.
SO THAT THEN WE'RE JUST BUILDING TWO THINGS.
RENT ANYTHING AS WE'VE EXPANDED THIS ONE INVIVO AND OR THAT'S THE MEMBRANE SOLUTION, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THAT PUT IN FASTER.
I I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU LOOKED AT IT THAT WAY, SINCE WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT WHERE WE CAN SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOADING AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, YES WE HAVE ACCESS CAPACITY NOW, BUT IF THE GROWTH RATES ARE TRUE, WE CAN GET THAT 1.7 OUT THE CENTRAL AND THEN THAT WOULD BUY THE TIME TO DO CONSTRUCTION PHASE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO GET SIX SOUTH.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT TWO AND A HALF AND IT GOES TO FOUR NEEDED AND WE'RE AT UH, YOU KNOW, 0.7, 4.7, THAT RANDOM, THAT HAS TO ASSUME THAT WE CAN MOVE FROM THAT BASIN BACK TO THE CENTRAL BASIN ENOUGH.
AND AND THAT'S WHERE THAT LIFT STATION BEING LEFT ONLINE COMES INTO PLAY.
AND, AND WE MIGHT EVEN END UP RECOMMENDING THAT THAT LIFT STATION STAYS ONLINE IN PERPETUITY.
SO IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER WE HAVE AN ISSUE AT THE SOUTH PLANT, WE CAN SHIFT SOME FLOW BACK TO THE CENTRAL PLANT AS A, AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ABILITY TO PULL A LEVER AND SWITCH FLOW FROM ONE PLANT TO THE OTHER IS, IS A REALLY GREAT THING FOR YOUR OPERATIONS.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK EVEN IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU WERE SUPER AGGRESSIVE ON THE CENTRAL PLANT, MOST MOST ANY TYPE OF PLANT EXPANSION, ANYTHING THAT YOU TALK ABOUT IS 18 MONTHS.
RIGHT? SO BUT SO LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY 24 TO BE CONSERVATIVE, LET'S SAY TWO YEARS.
SO THE CLOSEST FASTEST THING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IF THEY STARTED TO DESIGN TODAY WOULD BE COMING ONLINE AT THE END OF 24, BEGINNING OF 25.
SO THE ONLY THING IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IS IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SHIFT ENOUGH FLOW TO THE CENTRAL IS TO NOT REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE TO HAVE A PACKAGE PLANT INSTALLED A TEMPORARY PACKAGE PLANT DOWN AT THE, AT THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT DOES GIVE YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY AND THAT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS TELLING ME THAT WE SHOULD WAIT ON ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE TREATMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, PROJECTS.
THOSE THINGS NEED TO GO RIGHT, BUT I DON'T JUST SEE WE WAITING A YEAR ON THE, THE OTHER ONE.
SO JUST LIKE IT, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY TRUE BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS KICKING OFF IN 23.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN OF IT WAS ANYWAY, SO, SO TO RANDALL'S POINT, I MEAN WE, WE WE HAD BORROWED MORE MONEY OR WE GOTTA SELL BONDS AND WE HAVE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
SO WHY WOULD WE, THIS IS WHY I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHAT BEEN AS A CITY WHY WAY TO DESIGN SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT.
LET'S JUST KICK IT OFF AND DESIGN IT NOW WE WILL, WE TOTALLY WILL THAT THIS IS COMING OFF THE HILLS OF THEM ACTUALLY DOING THE PLAN TO DETERMINE THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED IT.
SO THIS IS YOU GETTING TO SEE THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE NEED IT AND HOW MUCH WE NEED.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DESIGN DO YOU THEN DO, DO YOU DESIGN ONE AND A HALF MGD? DO YOU DESIGN 12? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE NUMBER? SO WHENEVER THE PLAN GETS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, THEN THE NEXT THING TO DO IS IMMEDIATELY TO TRIGGER THE DESIGN OF THOSE TWO, OF THOSE TWO FACILITIES.
SO THE PLAN IS TO MOVE THE DESIGN IN THE CENTRAL UP, CORRECT? WELL IT WAS LISTED IN STARTING IN 23, WHICH IS JUST THE NEXT QU IT'S ONE QUARTER AWAY FROM NOW.
WELL WHEN I LOOK AT THE WATER FLOW, IT LOOK LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH 23 WE COULD APPLY JUNE OR JULY.
YEAH, I GUESS THOSE GRAPHS ARE CAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE MISLEADING.
OH WHEN YOU HEAR LIKE 23, THEN YOU'RE LIKE, IN MAY WE STARTED, IT'S COMING BE PATIENT AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU'RE IN NOVEMBER GOING, ARE WE GONNA DO IT? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
[00:25:01]
KICKS OFF AND SO I'M KIND OF LIKE, THINK LIKE WHAT COMES SAYING, IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT, THEN LET'S HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA IN DECEMBER WHERE WE'RE HIRING SOMEONE TO START DESIGNING, WHY WAIT TILL MARCH FOR SOMETHING? MM-HMM.SO AS SOON AS COUNCIL ADOPTS THAT THIS IS THE PLAN, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO DO IS SCOPE THE TWO, THE TWO PROJECTS.
AND THEN ONCE YOU SCOPE IT, THEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE TASK ORDER AND THEN COUNT AND THEN THE DESIGNS OFF TO THE RACES.
AND WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD START CUZ THAT THAT RFP PROCESS THAT YOU DO WITH THOSE VENDORS IS NOT TYPICALLY SOMETHING YOU DO WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
BUT WE WANTED TO, TO START BALL ROLLING ON, ON THE MEMBRANE.
SO, SO THIS IS THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE LARGE MAP, UM, A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE ON THE TABLE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE HIGH LEVEL ELEMENTS OF THIS MAP TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH IT.
UM, THE COLORING IS RED, BLUE, AND GREEN FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S BASED ON THE TIME SCALE OF 5, 10, 25 YEARS RESPECTIVELY.
UH, AS I MENTIONED THE BACKGROUND.
SO THE DRAINAGE AREAS FOR THE, THE SOUTH AND THE CENTRAL PLANTS.
AFTER THE, AFTER THE MASTER PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED, THERE ARE SOME HATCHED AREAS OF BACKGROUND.
YOU SEE THAT'S WHERE ONE RANGE AREA IS CONVERTED OVER TO THE OTHER BY, UM, BY SHIFTING HOW FLOWS SORT OF MOVE THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
UM, YOU'LL SEE EXISTING LINES ARE IN BLACK, UH, AND OF COURSE DIMENSIONS AND EVERYTHING.
UH, ONE LAST AND THEN THE KIND OF THE, THE LINE WEIGHT OF THE PIPE IS REFLECTED OF HOW BIG A SIZE IT IS.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU THAT'S GOT, UH, YELLOW HALO AROUND IT, UH, IS ONE THAT WE HAVE FLAGGED FOR POTENTIAL COST PARTICIPATION BY DEVELOPERS.
UH, AND WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GET THROUGH THE MAINLY MANAGED.
SO WE'RE ON THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT A FEW KIND OF THE HIGH PROFILE PROJECTS.
UH, FOR EACH OF THE NEXT FIVE SLIDES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A ZOOM IN OF THE MAP ON THE RIGHT.
UH, GONNA KIND OF MOVE IN ZOOM IN ON THE PROJECT AREA.
SO I'LL TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE REFERENCING THERE.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE TABLE ON THE LEFT FIVE, THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
THERE'S PROJECT NUMBERS CORRESPOND WITH THE TAGS THAT ARE ON THE MAP AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME, THE PROJECT INFORMATION THERE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, UH, AGAIN, I WANT TO, I KNOW THAT WE'RE OUR, THE EYES GO TO THE COST COLUMN FIRST.
I WANNA SAY THAT THESE ARE MASTER PLANNING ESTIMATES.
UM, MASTER PLANNERS TRY TO TRY TO SET THE CEILING FOR THE COST OF PROJECTS AND THEN THE DESIGN DOWN FROM THERE.
THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, WE, WE TRY TO CAPTURE SOME CONTINGENCY AND ESCALATION THOSE NUMBERS.
SO, UM, ALL THE ENGINEERS THAT NEED TO BEHIND ME CALCULATING COST PER LINEAR FOOT, UH, ASSUMPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF WHAT THE REALITY OF THE MARKET IS RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THAT JUST WANNA GIVE THAT CAVEAT AS WE GO FORWARD HERE.
WHAT IS THAT LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? COST PER LINEAR FOOT? UM, I DO HAVE A SET A TABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT I CAN, I CAN PULL OUT.
MAYBE JULIA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN.
IT SEEMS LIKE FOR WHATEVER REASON THE CITY COSTS ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE HIGHER THAN PRIVATE MARKET COSTS.
AND SO I'VE NEVER FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, I ASSUME THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT MARKUP CUZ IT'S JUST A GOVERNMENT MM-HMM.
I, I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, I, I'VE GOT A LOT OF BACKGROUND WORKING FOR CITIES INCLUDING FOR CITY OF NEGOTIATING AS AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS.
AND IT, IT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY TO ENTER INTO THOSE KINDS OF AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS AND REIMBURSE FOR ANY UPSIZING COSTS IN, IN THAT KIND OF AN ARRANGEMENT BECAUSE THEIR ABILITY TO MANAGE COST AND SCHEDULE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE IS A LOT QUICKER AND TIGHTER THAN, THAN IT IS FOR CITY CAPITAL PROJECT.
UM, OF COURSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE INSPECTION SIDE KNOWING THAT THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE CONVEYED AS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE IT'S INSTALLED IN GOOD STANDARDS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO FROM THE PROCESS.
SO THIS IS THE MEGA SITE ABLE TO, UM, THIS IS THE MEGA SITE ZOOM IN MOST, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE MEGA SITE UP HERE IN THE, IN THIS AREA.
UM, THIS, THIS DOES INCLUDE THE RCR TRACK, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IN THIS AREA COMING IN FROM TAYLOR.
UM, THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT IS IN TWO PARTS.
THE NEXT SLIDE COVERS THE 10 YEAR PHASE OF THIS.
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FIVE YEAR PHASE.
UH, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS FOR, UH, MEGA
[00:30:01]
SIDE IS DIVIDED, UH, SORT OF TOPOGRAPHICALLY INTO TWO PARTS AND THAT THAT RIDGE LINE IS RIGHT ABOUT HERE WHERE EVERYTHING WEST OF THIS LINE CAN DRAIN BY GRAVITY BACK DOWN THIS WAY AND THROUGH SOME EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THE GLENWOOD, THE PROPOSED GLENWOOD LINE.HOWEVER, EVERYTHING ON THIS SIDE DRAINS TO THE EAST.
IT FOLLOWS SORT OF THESE CREEK LINES THAT YOU SEE HERE.
AND, UH, THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR THE INTERIM IS TO BUILD A LIFT STATION HERE AND TO CONVEY THAT FLOW BACK THROUGH THE MEGA SITE AND INTO THAT GRAB THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DRAIN BACK DOWN TO THE CENTRAL PLANT.
UM, THERE'S TWO REASONS FOR THAT.
ONE IS CUZ THAT ALLOWS US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT GLENWOOD STATION OPERATIONAL BALANCING APPROACH.
UH, AND TWO IS BECAUSE, UH, THE COUNTY STILL DOESN'T HAVE THIS RIGHT OF WAY FULLY DEDICATED TO 1660, THE SOUTHEAST L PROJECT.
AND SO KNOWING THAT MEGA SITE IS NOT GONNA WAIT ON THE COUNTY TO FINISH DEDICATING THAT RIGHT OF AWAY, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A GRAVITY LINE DOWN THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO HIT THE GROUND AND HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO SERVE THEM ON, YOU KNOW, DAY MINUS ONE OF THEIR OPERATION BEING UP AND RUNNING.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW THERE'S, THERE'S A SORT OF A SECOND PHASE KIND OF A PARALLEL LINE FORCE MAIN RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE RCR SITE.
IT'S KIND OF GOT ITS OWN DEDICATED LINE JUST BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S ON ITS OWN TIMELINE.
SO, UM, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE PLAN FOR THAT.
UM, AGAIN, SO WE BUILD A SECOND LINE.
WHY NOT JUST MAKE THE FIRST LINE BE BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE IN? UM, IT'S UH, I GUESS FOR RIGHT NOW IT IS A SINGLE LINE.
IT'S, IT'S THE 14 INCH FORCE THAT WOULD BE, YOU HAVE TWO LINES.
YOU HAVE THE GRAVITY LINE THAT GOES TO THE LIFT STATION AND THEN THE FORCE MAIN THAT COMES BACK THE OTHER WAY TO PUMP IT BACK.
SO YOU HAVE THE COLLECTOR DRAWING IT TO THE LIFT STATION AND THEN THE FORCE MAIN COMING BACK UP.
SO THEN ONLY HAVE TWO LINES GOING TO THE SAME SPOT.
WE HAVE ONE COMING IN AND ONE COMING ONE COLLECTING FROM THE AREA.
TALKING ABOUT, YOU WERE SAYING TWO LINES.
I WAS THINKING WHY WOULD YOU DO LIKE A 14 INCH TODAY AND THEN COME BACK AND SOMEONE'S GONNA PUT IN WHATEVER, EIGHT INCH OR NINE INCH TO COLLECT SOMETHING TO THESE.
BUT IF YOU GOT IN ONE COMING OUT RIGHT, THIS ONE'S KIND OF GRAVITY DOWN FROM HERE THIS WAY AND RCR, THEY'RE DOWNHILL OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THEY MAY HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN LIFT STATION, BUT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE LIFT STATION THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY TAYLOR OWN, WHOEVER THERE.
AND THAT WE'RE GONNA WHOLESALE THE PLAN FOR THE NEXT PHASE, UH, IN THE 10 YEAR KIND OF WINDOW.
UM, AND I, AND I DO WANNA SAY IF THE COUNTY GETS THIS WHOLE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATED BEFORE WE GO AND BUILD THE OTHER PROJECT.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE PREFERRED ROUTE CAUSE THIS IS THE GRAB THESE SOLUTION ELIMINATES NEED TO HAVE A LIST STATION HERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WORKS FOR ABOUT THE MERCY OF, OF THE RIGHT OF WAY GETTING DEDICATED, UH, IN THE SOUTHEAST LOOP AREA TO MAKE THIS A REALITY.
SO, UM, THE, THE PLAN HERE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY TO HAVE A LARGE DIAMETER INTERCEPTOR RUN DOWN THIS WAY.
UH, IT WOULD CONNECT TO UH, SOME, UH, I'LL, I'LL GO INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER INTERCEPTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE PLANT.
BUT THESE ARE, SOME OF THESE ARE DEVELOPER SPECIFIC UH, GRAVITY LINES THAT THAT WILL BE GOING IN AHEAD OF THIS INTERCEPT COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS HAS THE ADVANTAGE COURSE OF BEING ABLE TO PICK UP THIS WHOLE AREA BY GRAVITY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO EVERYTHING BACK UP.
UM, OF COURSE ANYTHING THAT GOES IN SORT OF DOWNHILL OF THIS WILL HAVE TO LIFT UP BUT WE CAN COLLECT ALL THAT KIND IN A SINGLE POINT AND POP IT BACK UP IN THE FUTURE.
SO THOSE ARE THE MEGA SIDE PROJECTS.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? WELL MY ONLY THOUGHT IS WE DON'T GET THE RIGHT OF WAY IN AT TIMES FRAME.
UH, IS THIS GOING TO ACCELERATE THE NEED CENTRAL STATION UH, INCREASE SOONER BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE MEGA SITE WASTEWATER COMING INTO THAT CENTRAL PLANT, RIGHT? IS THAT COMING IN? WELL IT WOULD BE COMING INTO THE GLENWOOD STATION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT CAN GO OUT WAY.
SO WE WOULD ALSO HAVE, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR NEXT SLIDE IS THE GLENWOOD PROJECT AND THAT THAT IS INSTALL THE GRAVITY LINE DOWN TO CLOUD.
FUNNY ENOUGH, I HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKING AT THE PRICES SO MUCH CAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT'S GRAVITY AND WHAT'S FORCED.
CUZ AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION WE WERE GONNA TAKE FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT TAKE FORCE MAIN AND TURN 'EM INTO GRAVITY.
ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT DOING THAT OR HAVE WE SEEN THE, THE COST BETWEEN MAINTAINING THE LIFT STATION AND THE DEBT SERVICE OF B THE GRAVITY WHERE WE TO EXPLAIN
[00:35:01]
TO UM, DID YOU WANT TALK ABOUT THAT ON ASPECT? WELL COST THAT YOU HAD TO COMPARE COST OF INTERCEPT, GOT TO DO THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS OF EQUIPMENT, POWER COSTS SO FORTH OVER THE LIFETIME.UH, WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE LIFETIME INTERCEPT INTERCEPTS GOT TIP FOR LIFE SPA 50 YEARS ACTUALLY WITH MATERIALS WE USE NOWADAYS.
SO BASICALLY BE IN THE GROUND FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED, 200 YEARS.
UM, CAUSE THEY, WE USE MATERIALS TO DUMP MATERIAL.
SO YOU START ADDING UP THE LIFE CYCLE COSTS ARE THE LIFT STATION, WHICH IS 20 YEARS.
MOST YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT THE LIFT STATION WHERE YOU BASICALLY OUTTA REPLACE EVERYTHING IN THE LIFT STATION, PUMPS, RAILS, OTHER OTHER COMPONENTS.
YOU'VE GOT GENERATORS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT HAVE TO BE REPLACED OVER EVERY TIME CAUSE THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER.
BUT TYPICALLY IN, IN THE INDUSTRY, WASTE SMART INDUSTRY, YOU ALWAYS WANNA BE PASSIVE AS OPPOSED TO ACTIVE SYSTEMS THAT OF INTERCEPTS ARE TYPICALLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN THOSE STATIONS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERM OF 20, 30, 50 YEARS.
SO FROM WHAT AGAIN FROM A PROPERTY STANDPOINT, LET'S SAY YOU GOT 25 MILLION IN FORCE MANAGE YOU WANNA TAKE TO, I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE WHAT THE MAINTENANCE COST OF THAT IS BECAUSE FROM A PRIORITY STANDPOINT, MAYBE 50 YEARS FROM NOW IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
BUT MAYBE RIGHT NOW FROM A PRIORITY STANDPOINT IT'S BETTER TO PUT IN ALL THE NEW LINES AND SPENDER MONEY THERE THAN IT IS TO TAKE A LINE THAT'S WORKING RIGHT NOW THAT HAS THE MAINTENANCE COST BORROWING $20 MILLION.
CUZ THERE'S A DEBT SERVICE AREA THAT I WOULD HATE TO BE THE PERSON WHO PUT IN AND SEND, WE SAVE YOU GUYS HALF MILLION A YEAR AND IS MAINTENANCE COSTS, BUT YOU'RE SPENDING 2 MILLION A YEAR IN DEBT SERVICE.
AND SO IF I DON'T SEE THAT THEN I CAN'T, IT SOUNDS GREAT UNTIL I SEE IT.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THESE IS GRAVITY THAT IT'S A REDO OF AN EXISTING LINE, BUT LIKE IF THAT 14,000,001 WAS WORKING RIGHT TODAY, IT COSTS A QUARTER MILLION A YEAR.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT COSTS AROUND 14 MILLION AND DO WE NOT BORROW 14 MILLION AND GO SPEND 14 MILLION ON SOME OTHER QUICK WASTE WATER PROJECT.
THE OTHER PART THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT THE UNKNOWN.
CAUSE IN 20 YEARS WHEN YOU HAVE TO FULLY REPLACE THAT AND YOU GO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PLACE IT WITH GRAVITY, YOU HAVE THE MAINTENANCE POSTURE OVER THE 20 YEARS YOU DID FOR THAT INTERCEPTOR PLUS THE COST IN FUTURE DOLLARS TO PUT IN THAT NEW GRAVITY FEE AT THAT PLACE.
AND THAT IS PROBABLY A LOT MORE OVER 20 YEARS THAN EVEN THE, THE INTERCEPTOR TODAY AND PAY THE MAINTENANCE.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
YOU TAKE THE FUTURE VALUE OF THAT AND YOU JUST KIND IT BACK TO PRESENT VALUE TODAY AND YOU CAN THAT CALCULATION, BUT THAT'S THE OTHER PART THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.
NOT JUST STRAIGHT DEBT SERVICE.
BUT THAT'S, WELL YEAH, SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, HAVE FOCUS ON IS IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS I IDENTIFYING THE LONG TERM VALUE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF THESE ARE INTERSECTS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET AWAY FROM HAVING ONE LIFT STATION THAT PUMPS TO ONE ANOTHER LIFT STATION THAT PUMPS ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT YOU GOTTA TAKE IT ALL UP ON BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE EXTENDING SERVICE.
SO TO EXTEND SERVICE FOR SETTING THIS UP TO WHERE WE'VE GOT A PLAN TO WHERE WE PUT IN WHAT WE NEED AS WE EXTEND THE SERVICE, WHETHER THAT'S A INTERCEPTOR OR THE POWER THREE NEEDS, WE NEED A PUMP STATION WHERE THAT MIGHT BE.
SO SOME THESE, YOU KNOW, SO ON THE MAP HERE YOU'VE GOT ONE LIFT STATION, UM, AND, AND THAT IS PARTIALLY FOR TOPOGRAPHY AND PARTIALLY BECAUSE THAT'S A, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY OF COST THAT WAIT DELIVERING SERVICE LIMIT.
SO, SO MAYOR, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THESE ARE ALL NEW LINES.
SO THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF TAKING FORCE MAINS OFFLINE TO BUILD GRAVITY LINES, RIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AT SOME POINT I, THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME, WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS, WE NEED TO DO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, BUT, BUT WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND ON THE FRONT END THAT WE BUILD GRAVITY EVERY TIME THAT WE CAN.
IF IT'S A NEW LINE THAT'S RIGHT.
I JUST DON'T WANNA TEAR UP A PERFECTLY OPERATE IN LINE THAT FLUSHES TOILET THAT'S SPEND 10 MILLION.
WE GO, WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT ANYMORE.
BUT WE COULD HAVE SPENT THAT MONEY BUT IN SOMETHING ELSE, YEAH.
NEW STUFF SHOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
I MEAN THAT, THAT WOULD ACTUAL INTERSECTION
[00:40:02]
AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT YOU CURRENT DOING EARLIER IS TRYING TO, WHENEVER THAT LINE GETS IN PLACE, IT ALLOWS THE LIFT STATION TO BUILD TO COME OFFLINE.IT'S LIKE EVERY ROAD WE BUILT, IF YOU BUILD IT IN CONCRETE, IT'LL ALLOW A WHOLE LOT LONGER.
BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD A ROAD IN CONCRETE.
SO SUDDEN WE GOTTA BUILD ASPHALT, SUDDEN WE'VE GOTTA MAKE THE DECISION 40 YEARS FROM NOW AND COME BACK AND DO IT IN CONCRETE.
BUT IF WE DO IT ALL ON CONCRETE, THEN NONE JUST GONNA AFFORD A LIFT.
USUALLY THE LIFT STATIONS AND THE FORCE MAINS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE WANTING TO BE TAKEN OFFLINE ARE ONES THAT WERE BUILT BY DEVELOPERS AND DEDICATED OVER BECAUSE IT WAS A CHEAPER SOLUTION FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO JUST BUILD THE LIFT STATION THEN TO BUILD THE TRANSMISSION LINE ALL THE WAY BACK, YOU KNOW, TO GRAVITY FLOW.
SO SO IS THAT SOMETHING WHEN WE HAVE NEW KIDS AND STUFF COMING IN THAT WE'RE GONNA FORCE THEM TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO, ONCE WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN THEN WE'RE LIKE, NO, YOUR SOLUTION IS TO DO THIS.
THAT'S HOW THE, THAT'S WHY THE SCRS THAT, THAT EVERYONE WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, BILLY ACHING ABOUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND ROUGHLY SO WERE, WERE BEING SO DELAYED IS BECAUSE WITHOUT THIS IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GO TO THAT DEVELOPER AND SAY YOU NEED TO DO X, Y, AND Z IN ORDER TO SERVE YOUR PROJECT.
BUT NOW THAT THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED AND THE MODEL WILL BE IN PLACE FOR HERE ON OUT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH SMOOTH SAILING ONS AND ON DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE GETTING BUILT.
WHO WOULD BE THE FIRST TO, TO TELL SOMEONE HOW IT HAS TO BE DONE? COMMON THING, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE IS EXPLAINING HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
I'M GONNA SKIP ONE ONE CAUSE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE A BUNCH NEW INTERCEPTOR
UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS ONE'S THE MAIN DRIVER FOR THIS ONE IS, UH, THE EN STATION IS THE BIGGEST LIFT STATION IN THE CITY SYSTEM AND IT'S A REALLY BAD SHAPE.
UH, AND THERE IS A DECISION POINT THAT WE'VE REACHED WHERE WE HAVE TO EITHER INVEST A BUNCH OF NEW MONEY INTO THE ENCLAVE BUS STATION TO BASICALLY REPLACE IT AND UM, KEEP IT KIND OF IN SERVICE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
UH, OR DO THE, INVEST THAT MONEY INSTEAD IN A, IN A GRAVITY SOLUTION.
IN IN, IN THIS BRUSHY CREEK CEP.
AND UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE LINES, THESE, THESE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE BROOKLYNS LIST STATION, THE FAR LIFT STATION, ALL OF THESE LINES, UH, THEY SAID THE DASH LINES ARE AIR FORCE NAMES, UH, ENCLAVE IS UP HERE.
UH, THIS IS ITS FORCE MAIN AND THEN COUNTRY STATES SUCH HERE THAT ACTUALLY PUMP THE NORTH, THESE LINES ALL PUMP INTO A SINGLE FORCEMENT THAT RUNS, THAT ACTUALLY RUNS DOWNHILL, WHICH YOU DON'T USUALLY PUMP DOWNHILL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF, CUZ IT WAS SORT OF LONG TOGETHER OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE THAT WERE THEN GRAVITY THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE THAT RUN DOWN TO THE SOUTH PLANT.
AND SO THIS, THIS BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOLLOWS.
AND, AND WHEN IT'S BUILT, YOU'LL SEE IT'LL RELIEVE ALL OF THESE LIST STATIONS.
BROOKLYNS, FARLEY, ENCLAVE AND COUNTRY STATES WILL ALL THEN JUST DRAINED BY GRAVITY INTO THOSE LIST STATIONS.
SO YOU'RE LEAVING FOUR DIFFERENT LIST STATIONS WITH A SINGLE, UM, INTER CEP AND UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THE INTERCEPTOR ISN'T ONLY RELIEVING THE LIFT STATION, IT'S NOT, IT'S ALSO BEING SIZED FOR GROWTH AND, AND UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE UNDER MAP THAT THAT INTERCEPTOR GOES ALL THE WAY UP KIND OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY AND, AND PICKS UP ALL THAT, ALL THAT AREA AS WELL.
AND, AND A LOT OF THAT MATCHED AREA THAT YOU SEE, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND THAT'S CONVERTING FROM THE CENTRAL PLANT TO THE SOUTH PLANT IS, IS CONVERTING BECAUSE OF THAT INTERCEPTOR GOING TO THE SERVICE.
SO THAT'S ALSO REDIRECTING A LOT OF FLOW.
SO THAT'S ALSO ALLOWING US TO NOT HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT SOLUTION FOR THE CENTRAL PLANT.
SO IT, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT ABOUT THE COST CALCULATIONS ABOUT TAKING FORCE MILLIONS OFFLINE, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO RUN SOME OF THAT MATH ON BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS ALL WITH ONE PROJECT AND A GOOD NUMBER OF IT IS TAKING OFF FOUR, FOUR LIFT STATIONS, UH, ALONG THE WAY.
BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A A A $55 MILLION PROJECT TO TAKE OFF FOUR LIFT STATIONS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS, RIGHT? IT'S JUST THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO DESIGN THE INTERCEPTOR IN SUCH THE RIGHT WAY AND SIZE IT PROPERLY ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE OFF THE LIFT STATIONS WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO THIS OTHER, THIS OTHER ISSUE OF THE BASIN.
AND, AND I SHOULD MENTION THAT PHASE ONE OF THIS INTERCEPTOR IS ACTUALLY ALREADY, UH, APPROACHING CONSTRUCTION AND THAT'S BEING DONE BY A DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S THIS, THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY PUNCHING MOVING FORWARD.
UM, LOOK, YEAH, WE'RE DOWN TO 10 MINUTES, SO WE NEED TO GET TO THE NORTH.
IS THAT STRETCH EIGHT THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG
[00:45:01]
BEHIND, UH, F DEPARTMENT COMMITTEE IS ON THE ONE SIDE? ARE THEY PITCHING UNDER THAT? WHICH ONES ARE THE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION? THE ONES WITH THE KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHT AROUND? YEAH, AND THIS ONE, THE ONLY REASON IT'S NOT SHOWING UP IS BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPACT FEE PROJECT.SO IT'S BEING COVERED BY, UM, ESSENTIALLY IMPACT, WHICH IS THE CITY BASICALLY BY THE DEVELOPER.
UM, SO I, I DO WANNA TOUCH ON, UM, THE, THE, THE ROLLUPS FOR EACH OF THE FIVE, 10 AND 25 METER WINDOWS.
UH, WE HAVE THIS BROKEN DOWN, UH, A COUPLE OF WAYS HERE ON TYPE OF PROJECT.
OUR, UH, EACH ROW PIPELINE LIFT STATIONS AND WAY WATER PLANTS.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE TOTAL CIP P COST ESTIMATE, UH, THE, THE DEGREE TO WHICH THE CITY IS GONNA BE PARTICIPATING IN THE COST OF THE PROJECT, EITHER THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT OR, UH, BY, UH, THE COLLECTION OF IMPACT FEES AND THEN THE ANTICIPATED DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE WAY THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER IS WE LOOKED AT, UH, RATIO AN ESSENTIALLY A CAPACITY RATIO OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD JUST NEED FOR THEIR PROJECT AND WHAT THE CITY, UM, WOULD UPSIZE IT FOR.
SO THE DEVELOPER MIGHT BE PAYING FOR 25% PAID FROM 75% CENTER MINUTES.
THAT'S THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT IT WE'LL ALL BE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN HERE FROM THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
UM, ESSENTIALLY A LOT OF THIS IS, IS DRIVEN BY, UM, THE WASTEWATER PLANT PROJECT AND THEN SOME OF THAT, THAT PIPELINE WORK AND THEN CENTERED AROUND MEGA SITE.
SO THE IMPACT FEE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT, UH, COME IN HAVE IS THAT AMOUNT, ASSUMING THE CURRENT IMPACT FEED RATE THAT WE HAVE IN THE ON BOOKS TODAY, IT, IT IS CONTEMPLATING THE, THAT'S THE, THE DEGREE, THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED IN THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE REPORT.
AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY WHEN I GO TO THE 10 AND 25 YEAR TABLES HERE IN A SECOND, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT COLUMN ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING START GETTING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE NOT IN THE CURRENT IMPACT REPORT.
AND SO THAT IS DEFINITELY OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOW TO FINISH THE MASTER PLAN TO REVISE THAT REPORT, GET ALL THOSE PROJECTS ROLLED IN THERE SO YOU CAN COLLECT IMPACT.
THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WERE YOU TALKING MORE ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE WHEN WE INCREASE THE IMPACT FEE? I'M DID YOU RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE PRODUCTS WE HAD, WE HAVE THE COST BASED ON THES COMING IN PER IMPACT FEE FOR OH, OKAY.
IS THAT NUMBER FROM THAT NUMBER AT THAT IMPACT FEE OR ARE YOU ASSUMING WE NEED TO GET 189 MILLION, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT FEE NEEDS TO BE DOUBLED WHAT IT IS TODAY? LIKE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, LIKE WE RIGHT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A DISCONNECT THE THAT NUMBER'S BASED ON THE, I GUESS IT'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT IN FACT THESE WOULD BE COLLECTED FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PLAN BASED ON THE CURRENT, IN FACT THE RATE IS WHAT, RIGHT.
WHICH IS LOVE AND SO, BUT IT'S LIKE YEAH, I WOULD CALL IT THAT.
LIKE UNLESS IT ALWAYS GO UP, RIGHT? YEAH, REMEMBER THAT INSTANT.
UM, AND SO, SO THAT'S THE FIVE YEAR ROLL UP.
THE 10 YEAR ROLL UP IS, UM, WE'RE GONNA START TO TAIL OFF HERE, BUT THIS IS, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE YOU START TO SEE THE BULK OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT EXPANSIONS COMING IN AND THEN, UH, 25 YEAR FURTHER OUT SINCE WHEN WE'RE GETTING UP TO THE, THE CAPACITY OF THE SOUND PLANT.
AND THEN, UM, SO THIS HAD A THING SAYING 25 YEARS ON THE 10 HERE.
IS THAT A MISTAKE? IS IT JUST YEAH, THAT, SO THE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT JUST TO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.
[00:50:02]
UM, THERE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE TO IT.UH, IF WE HAD MORE TIME THAT WE COULD COVER, UM, HAVING BROAD STROKES, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR SORT OF THE, THE LONG TERM PLANS FOR, FOR FLOWS TO BE TRANSITIONS BY GRAVITY AS MENTIONED.
UM, A LOT OF THE FLOW UP TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SYSTEM IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, A, A LONGER RANGE VIEW, UH, IN THIS KIND NORTH NORTHEAST AREA AND, UH, TRYING TO TRANSITION THAT DOWN, BUT YOU THINK YOU SIDE OF THE SERVICE AREA AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT, UM, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE IMMEDIATE WORK IS IN, UH, CHINA, THAT SOUTHERN AND WESTERN PART OF THE SYSTEM.
SO I KNOW THE STRONG, YOU KNOW, WE IMPROVE THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL THOSE DON'T KNOW YEAH, SOME DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A PLAN PLAN BUT THEY, THEY'VE NOT SUBMITTED ANYTHING IN TERMS OF WATER REQUEST DOC ON THE OCCASIONS.
THE SD NUMBERS HERE, SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST NUMBER, IS THAT THE PRIORITY OF WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED OR IS THERE A SIGNIFICANCE TO THE ORDER THAT YOU GOT ON THIS? IT'S THE, THAT'S BASICALLY ORDER THAT, THAT CAME IN SORT OF TAKING OFF FIRST TIME FOR SURVEYS.
SO JAMES, CAN WE GET THE IMPACTS, THE UPDATES ROLLING SO THAT WHEN WE APPROVE THESE PLANS, WE'VE ALREADY GOT A COMMITTEE NAMED AND WE CAN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT AND GET THAT GOING SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE IMPACT FEES ON DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY COME IN.
UM, I MEAN, YOU, I MEAN YOU'RE, I I GUESS I THINK IS THE, IS THE ANSWER.
I JUST DON'T WANT, I JUST DON'T WANNA HAVE A BIG GAP THERE.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE CAN'T, THE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT FEE ADOPTION PROCESS REQUIRES THAT THE ENGINEERING PLAN BE DONE, RIGHT? SO, BUT WE CAN GET GOING AND BE READY TO HIT THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANT US TO TRY TO, YEAH, I DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO DO WHATEVER UPFRONT WORK SO THAT WE'RE NOT, OH WELL WE'VE GOT A NAME COMMITTEE A MONTH ON THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL NAME COMMITTEES HERE FOR IMPACT WE DID LAST TIME AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, TELL US I'M USED TO THE ENGINEERS JUST DOING IT.
THEY, THEY GO DO THE MATH AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY PRESENT, SAY, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE NUMBER.
SO, BUT I, I NEED TO CHECK THE CHARTER AND ASK, YOU KNOW, LEGAL TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME PROCESS HERE THAT IS DIFFERENT.
SO, AND ANYTIME THIS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S DOING THINGS FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES AND GROUPS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THESE THINGS FOR THE FIRST TIMES.
I DOUBT YOU HAD PROBABLY AN IMPACT FEE UPDATE WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME SINCE THE LAST ONE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE BEFORE THAT.
I DOUBT THERE WAS, RIGHT? NO, IT WAS WAY OVERDUE WHEN WE DID IT.
BUT WE RECOGNIZE DOING ALL THIS THAT RIGHT.
YEAH, LET'S, LET'S DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IT A JUMPSTART AND THAT IS REALLY THE NEXT STEP.
SO THE NEXT STEP IS FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THE FINAL PLAN, ASSUMING THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC OR FROM Y'ALL ON ANY OF THIS THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU THAT YOU FEEL LIKE REALLY DRAMATICALLY NEEDS TO CHANGE.
UH, THE NEXT THING IS FOR THEM TO FINALIZE THE NUMBERS AND FINALIZE THE REPORT AND FINALIZE THE MODEL AND THEN TO PRESENT THAT TO, TO COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY, UM, AFTER THIS WORKSHOP SO YOU HAVE SOME TIME IN ORDER TO GIVE THEM SOME FEEDBACK.
IF YOU LIKE THE MAYOR'S POINT ABOUT THAT ONE THING, WANTING TO SEE THAT MATH, ANY OF THOSE OTHER TYPES OF COMMENTS, UM, THAT'S THE TIME TO PASS IT TO THEM SO WE CAN GET THIS PRESENTED AND, AND ACTUALLY WRAPPED UP, YOU KNOW, IN NOVEMBER AND THEN IMMEDIATELY BE WORKING ON THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMPACT FEED ISSUE.
SO, SO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.
WE WANNA DO DOWNSTAIRS ON THE GUYS, BUT RANDALL'S BIRTHDAY, SO I THINK GOOD, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RANDALL BIRTHDAY TO YOU.