[5.1. Diversity & Inclusion Commission Presentation - Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Training for Effective Diversity and Inclusion Commission Leadership]

ARTICLE 5.1 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION PRESENTATION.IVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION TRAINING FOR EFFECTIVE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION

COMMISSION LEADERSHIP >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, KRISTI BARNES. STAFF LIAISON FOR THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. REALLY QUICKLY, I WANTED TO PRESENT THE CERTIFICATES OF COMPLETION FOR THE DEI TRAINING FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO COMMISSION, CONDUCTED AUGUST 24 AND 25. BY STAN -- THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE TRAINING WERE TO BUILD A COMMON LANGUAGE AND MUTUALLY UNDERSTOOD BASE OF THE TERMINOLOGY, AROUND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION. UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, THE DEMOGRAPHIC REALITIES OF THE UNITED STATES, TEXAS AND HUTTO.

O BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND INTERNALIZE BUSINESS RATIONALE, FOR FOCUS ON DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION, TO UNDERSTAND KEY COMPONENTS OF A DEI STRATEGY AND DEI EXECUTION.

TO UNDERSTAND THE KEY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF A DEI COUNSEL. COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION, INCLUDING ELEMENTS OF SUCCESS, TYPICAL ROADBLOCKS AND BEST PRACTICES. TO GAIN PASSION FOR THE COMMISSIONS OWN INDIVIDUAL ROLES, AND CONTRIBUTIONS WITHIN THE COMMISSION. TO BUILD SKILLS TO GROW AS INCLUSIVE LEADERS. AND TO LEAD WITH SCHOOLS TO CONTINUE DOWN AND IMPACTFUL PATH IN 2022 AND BEYOND.

THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE, BEFORE I CALLED THE COMMISSIONERS, ALSO WANT TO KNOW THE COUNCILMEMBER DAN THORNTON DID ATTEND THE TRAINING AND I DID AS WELL.

AND TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER -- IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT AND BE AWARDED YOUR CERTIFICATES. FOLLOWING THAT, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON WILL HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY.

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>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU COUNSEL AND I GUESS CITIZENS, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE THIS TRAINING, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR ALLOWING US THE FUNDS TO TAKE THE TRAINING. VERY INSIGHTFUL AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT I DIDN'T WANT OR THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EACH TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE EXCERPT ABOUT WHAT WE LEARNED, THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOUR FUNDS WERE SPENT. SO, ALL OF THAT, THE COMMISSIONERS GO FIRST. OR WOULD YOU WANT ME TO GO FIRST? ALL RIGHT.

LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A GREAT TRAINING. LOT OF GREAT THINGS CAME OUT OF IT. KRISTI ALREADY OUTLINED THE SCHEDULE THAT WE WERE ON. DAN WAS THERE SO, THINK YOU COUNCILMEMBER FOR BEING THERE. IT WAS OVER TWO NIGHTS AND ONE THING THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT I LEARNED BY HAVING TOUGH CONVERSATIONS. MR. CAMERON WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT DISCUSSING DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION, TOUGH CONVERSATIONS WOULD ALWAYS BE KIND OF AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND HE OFFERED UP FOUR SUGGESTIONS WHEN HAVING THESE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS.

FIRST, BEING TO NOT HAVE THEM WHEN ANGRY.

THE SECOND, TO BE RELATABLE, MAYBE TELL A STORY THAT WOULD HELP YOU TO RELAY YOUR POINT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

NOT TO EXPECT IMMEDIATE AGREEMENT, THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS VERY POIGNANT FOR OUR COMMISSION.

I THINK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT A NUMBER OF TOUGH CONVERSATIONS. WHERE IF WE DIDN'T COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I KIND OF FEEL WE FAILED OR FELT AS IF, THERE WASN'T PROGRESS BEING MADE AND I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE IMMEDIATE AGREEMENT WITH THESE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO US IN DOING THIS WORK THAT WE SET OUT TO DO.

THE FOURTH ONE WAS TO TIE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. THAT WAS SOMETHING WE IDENTIFIED THAT WE HAD NOT DONE YET ON THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. REALLY, LOOK AT A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ASSETS AND REALLY THE HELP THAT COMMISSIONER CHEN BRINGS IN STARTING TO DEVELOP THAT STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF MY MIND THAT I LEARNED FROM THE TRAINING. VERY THANKFUL FOR MR. KAMMER

AND EXPLAINING THAT TO US. >> I AM GINA CHEN.

I HAD TO APOLOGIZE, I NO LONGER AM CONTAGIOUS, BUT I HAD THE FLU LAST WEEK AND I'M A LITTLE CRUNCHY SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE. ANYWAY, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, WHAT I REALLY GOT OUT OF THE TRAINING WAS, I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK OF DIVERSITY TRAINING OF SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE, I REALLY NEED THAT IF I'M RACIST OR YOU ONLY NEED THAT IF I HAVE A PROBLEM. AND YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THAT, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMISSION, WILL CONSIDER OURSELVES HAVING A PROBLEM AND I WAS REALLY, WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT WAS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW IT IS ONE THING TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE PART OF A MARGINALIZED GROUP.

HOW THAT FEELS FROM YOUR GROUP, BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT. AND I FOUND THAT REALLY USEFUL ABOUT IT. THIS KIND OF TRAINING ISN'T JUST FOR SOMEONE WHERE THERE IS A PROBLEM IS JUST FOR, IT IS EYE-OPENING TO ALL OF US, EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY IN THEIR HEART, LIKE I REALLY BELIEVING THIS.

I LEARNED A LOT FROM IT SO I THOUGHT THAT REALLY WAS ENCOURAGING. THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING A SAY. ONE THING I LEARNED IS REINSTATING THE VISION AND MISSION OF THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. WHICH IS ADVOCATING THOSE WHO CANNOT ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES. I COME FROM A VERY DIVERSE BACKGROUND. AND STILL THERE ARE THINGS I STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERY PART OF MY COMMUNITY AND ONE THING I REALLY WOULD LOVE ABOUT THE CITY OF HUTTO IS THAT IT IS A COMMUNITY. IT IS A TRUE FAMILY, IT IS

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DIVERSE. IT HAS SO MUCH CULTURE AND ONE THING I GOT OUT OF THE TRAINING IS TO CONTINUE TO BE AWARE OF THE DIFFERENCES OF OUR CULTURES.

AND EMBRACE IT. AND SO, THAT'S WE WANT TO DO GOING FORWARD BECAUSE LEADERSHIP IS NOT ONLY ABOUT BEING UNDERSTANDING BUT TRUE EMPATHY OF OTHERS IN DIVERSITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE TRAINING, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> GOOD EVENING. SOMEHOW, I AM LAST! I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE TRAINING GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN PROPER TERMINOLOGY.

A LOT OF TIME, WE KNOW SOMETHING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS IT PROPERLY.

AND FILL OUT THE TRAINING WE ARE INTRODUCED TO THE PROPER WORDS TO SAY AND HOW TO INTERACT WITH OTHERS.

AND SO, THAT IS MY TAKE AWAY FROM EVERYTHING.

WE HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO KNOW WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU ADDRESS SOMEONE, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THEM IN A WAY THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO THAT WAS MY TAKE AWAY AND I DO THANK YOU GUYS TREMENDOUSLY, BECAUSE WE NEEDED IT. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE NEWLY DEVELOPED AND SO, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED AND I THINK WE ALL TOOK AWAY THE SAME THING.

LEARNING THE PROPER PHRASES, HOW TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONE THING IS, I LEARNED NOT TO BE A BYSTANDER, A LOT OF TIMES I LEAVE THE SITUATION, AND I'M LIKE, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING.

AND SO, THAT WAS ONE OF THE TERMS WE LEARNED.

HOW NOT TO BE A BYSTANDER AND HOW TO INTERACT AT THAT TIME AND TO SAY SOMETHING IN THAT MOMENT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE WALK AWAY AND WE ARE THINKING, THAT DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

WE LEARNED IN THE BRIEF TRAINING IT WAS TREMENDOUS FOR ME. I TAKE THAT AWAY AND I THANK

YOU FOR THAT. >> WITH THAT, WE WANTED TO BEING A RECOMMENDED BODY, WE WANTED TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL LOOK AT TAKING THE TRAINING.

LIKE I SAID, COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON HAS TAKEN IT.

I THINK IT WOULD NOT HURT TO TAKE IT AGAIN, LIKE THE COMMISSIONER SAID. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE STILL DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT WAS COMMISSIONER WALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS WE STILL DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT COUNCIL TAKING THE TRAINING BUT ALSO, NOT THIS TRAINING MAYBE THIS TRAINING OR A DIFFERENT TRAINING, WHATEVER.

MR. KIMMER IS ABLE TO DO PROTAGONIST TRAINING OR SIMILAR TRAINING. AND ALSO LOOKING AT HAVING EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION TAKING SOME SORT OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION TRAINING AS IT CAN ONLY HELP TO MAKE US MORE OF AN INCLUSIVE CITY. THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU SO

MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, IS THERE WITH YOU GUYS COULD TALK ABOUT, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU FOR TRAINING, I DON'T REMEMBER THE FIRST NIGHT, THERE WAS SOME SORT OF BOARD THAT COULDN'T GO TO APPEAR FOR THE PEOPLE HAVE A SCHEDULE CONFLICT OR TO YOUR POINT ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, IS THIS SOMETHING IS TO TALK ABOUT THAT MAY BE SET UP TWICE A YEAR? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR, BUT MAYBE WE WE KEEP GROWING AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING THIS OPPORTUNITY, JUST UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND HOW EVERYBODY THINKS THEY INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.

AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS INTERACT SO WELL.

MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON SOME SORT OF TRAINING SCHEDULE, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET CAUGHT UP.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

I THINK THE START WOULD BE, TO TAKE THIS TRAINING ARE SIMILAR TRAINING AS A KIND OF LAID THE FOUNDATION MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN FROM THERE, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT TASK THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE HONORED TO TAKE ON HIS GRADING SOME SORT OF TRAINING SCHEDULE THAT COULD BE ANNUALLY, THAT COULD BE BY QUARTERLY OR QUARTERLY. FOR JUST BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO KIND OF BE YOU KNOW, A CHECKUP SO TO SPEAK.

I THINK FOR FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES, IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR COUNSEL TO TAKE THIS TRAINING TO START OUT WITH AND THEN FROM THERE, AGAIN, WE CAN START CREATING THE

SCHEDULE. >> MY ONE THING IS WITH OUR COMPANY WE DO A THING CALLED DIVERSITY DAY WHERE WE HAVE LIKE 10 TO 12 PANELS AND THEY ARE ALL OCCURRING AT DIFFERENT TIMES SO YOU CAN GO TO LIKE TWO OR THREE AT THIS TIME AND YOU CAN DO IT ON A SATURDAY OR SOMETHING AND HAVE THE WHOLE OF THE COMMUNITY COME. AS WE GROW OVER TIME, IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW I DO A LOT OF THAT EVERY YEAR I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHERE WE HAVE PANELS AND YOU KNOW, A PANEL OF DIVERSE EMPLOYEES, TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE WORKING FOR A COMPANY, TO SEE THE VISION AND GET THEM SPOTLIGHTED.

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>> YEAH. AND THINK IT WILL BE GREAT.

COMMISSIONER SPOONS HERE FROM THE ACTIVITY CALENDAR AND EVENTS SUBCOMMITTEE ON OUR COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT IS A GREAT THING THAT SHE HEARD AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN SYNC UP ON THAT. I THINK SOMEONE HAS THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR MR. KIMMER. I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR COUNSEL TO ESTABLISH THE BASELINE.

SEE WITH THE TRAINING IS ABOUT BEFORE ANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TAKE IT. JUST SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT FOUNDATION VERSUS YOU KNOW, BOARDS AND COMMISSION HAVE IT THEN COUNCIL, WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK IT WOULD BE

APPROPRIATE. >> IF IT WILL BE GOOD FOR COUNSEL TO KNOW AS WELL, MR. KIMMER CAMERA SOMETHING WE DID HAVE TO PAY FOR BUT DNI HAS BEEN ON A TRAINING JOURNEY IF YOU WILL COME OUT ANOTHER NUMBER THAT YOU ARE UP TO AT THIS POINT BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH BEEN DOING ONE MEETING, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS NOW.

EVEN IF WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE PAID TRAINING, THERE DEFINITELY ARE SOME GOOD OPTIONS AND GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE TRAININGS THEY'VE DONE AND THAT MAYBE, CAPPING THE END WITH THE PAID TRAINING AND KIND OF DOING SOME OF THOSE TO BE COST-EFFECTIVE. AND MINDFUL OF THOSE THINGS.

D&I HAS BEEN PLUGGING AWAY A LOT OF THOSE TRAININGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. KIND OF THE CAPSTONE OF THAT

JOURNEY. >> AGREED.

[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 6, CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER. A QUICK EVENT RECAP FOR GRAND FINALE OF THE HOLIDAYS IN HUTTO SERIES.

THIS LAST WEEK AND HAVE THE DOWNTOWN CHRISTMAS FAIR.

I AM BEING TOLD THAT STAFF BELIEVES IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL FARES EVER. IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE, SALES AND HOLIDAY SPIRIT. I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF VENDORS MYSELF PERSONALLY AND MANY FOLKS HAD VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE EVENT. WE HAD MORE THAN 85 VENDORS AND ESTIMATED 5000 GUESTS AND DELIVERED 50,000 POUNDS OF SNOW TO SNOW HILL, THAT LESSON TILL 2:00 I THINK.

AND THAT'S HOW IT IS IN TEXAS. WE WANT TO THINK OF ALL THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, ALL OF THE MULTICULTURAL PERFORMANCE THAT CAME OUT, I SAW THE DANCING GOING ON AND REALLY THOUGHT THAT IT IS NEAT SEEING HOW EVERYTHING IS COMING TOGETHER HERE. IN TOWN AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND OF COURSE, THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS WHO WERE ABLE TO BE THE BACKBONE OF ALLOWING THAT EVENT TO HAPPEN.

THERE WERE A NUMBER FOLKS THERE BEFORE 6 O'CLOCK WHENEVER I GOT THERE. THE BARRICADES, POLICE OFFICERS, PEOPLE DOING ALL THE TRACKING AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY MENTION TAYLOR AND THE GREAT WORK SHE DID OVERSEEING THE EVENT.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAYBE DIDN'T GET TO GO JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE, PHOTOS AND VIDEOS OF THIS AND ALL THE HOLIDAY EVENTS ON THE WEBSITE. YOU CAN GO TO FACEBOOK PAGE AND SEE THE PICTURES THERE. COMPANY HAS A PLAN STARTING TO COME UP TO A WRAP. THERE WAS ONE OF THE BOOTHS ACTUALLY OUT AT THE EVENT AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO CAME TO THE FAIR SPECIFICALLY, TO COME GIVE INPUT TO THE COMPANY AS A PLAN WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS A NEAT THING. THE HUTTO CONFERENCE PLAN CALLED HUTTO SOAR 2040, THAT IS BASICALLY, A ROUGHLY 20 YEAR COMP PLAN ALTHOUGH WE ARE CREEPING UP A 17 OR 18 YEAR COMP PLAN. IT TALKS ABOUT LONG-RANGE PLANS FOR THE COMMUNITY IT HELPS SHAPE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT, WHAT LAND USES LOOK LIKE, ECONOMIC DEVELOP MEANT ROADS, MINIS, GENERALLY OVERALL LOOK AND FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO TARGET FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES AND IN DATA ANALYSIS.

WE WANT TO EXTEND THE THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS WHO HAS COME OUT TO THE VARIOUS MEETINGS AND THANKS THE COMP HAS A PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, HAS BEEN WORKING TO GIVE INSTRUCTION IN THAT REGARD.

THEY WILL HAVE ONE COMP PLAN FOR THE CITY BUT ALSO DEVELOPING A SEPARATE COMP PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SOME FOCUSED ON HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, THE DRAFT PLAN IS EXPECTED TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NEXT MONTH.

AND THEN, WE WILL BE MAKING A MAJOR PRESENTATION TO CITY

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COUNCIL EITHER THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY OR THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ADOPTING THE PLAN SHORTLY THEREAFTER. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATES.

WE RECENTLY RELEASED A NEW VIDEO THIS WEEK HIGHLIGHTING THE CITIES CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS THAT COUNSEL IS AUTHORIZED FOR THE ROADS, WATER, WASTEWATER.

IT IS CURRENTLY SITTING AT OVER 400 I'M SORRY, FOR INTERVIEWS THE FIRST DAY ONLINE. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, JUST TAKE THREE MINUTES OUT EVERY DAY AND WATCH IT, I WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPRESSED, I LIKE THE WAY THAT THIS, THE WAY THEY ELECTED TO AN OVERLAY OF DIFFERENT ROAD PROJECTS TO SHOW WHAT THE ROADS WOULD LOOK LIKE AT BUILDOUT, IT REALLY HELPS THE VISUALIZATION, AND THE VIDEO IS AVAILABLE IN THIS WEEK'S NEWSLETTER BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL IF YOU GO THERE. THAT IS PART OF THE VIDEO SERIES THAT WILL OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BUT THE THEME IS BUILDING OUR FUTURE. THAT IS TO GET THE WORD ABOUT PROJECT GOING ON COMMUNICATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PREDICT PRODUCING THOSE AND NEXT MONTH THEY WILL BE A NEW SECTION IN EVERY HUTTO KNEW LITTLE TO ALSO HAVE THE CAPITOL PROJECTS AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST TO MAKE SURE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND COUNSEL AND EVERYONE ELSE INTERESTED AS WELL PLUGGED IN ON THE PROGRESS BEING MADE. THE NEW SECTION WILL BE CALLED BUILDING THE FUTURE. FOLLOWING THAT, I ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO BEGIN ADDING CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PRESENTATIONS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. WE WILL BE GETTING UPDATES ON THE CIP AND THE VERY STAGES WHERE THEY ARE AT AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE KNOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SORELY NEEDED, ONE OF THE ORDERS THAT I FEEL COMPELLED UPON MYSELF WHENEVER I STEPPED INTO THIS ROLE.

BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS WE ARE MAKING.

WILL TRY TO DO OUR BEST WHEN WE SEE THAT, WILL GET TO THE VIDEO AND NEWSLETTERS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE GROUNDBREAKING FOR SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT TO THOSE AND SHARE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU SEE. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

[7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS.

GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.

ANY GENERAL COMMENTS? >> I HAVE ONE.

WE DO THIS EXERCISE WITH MY STAFF AND WE ALWAYS START OFF WITH PROFESSIONAL HIGH AND LOW, PERSONAL HIGH AND PERSONAL LOW.

JUST A WAY TO SET THE MEETING AND TONE, SOMETHING OF BEEN HEARING KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD IS, PERSONAL HIGH IS SPIRIT OF THE SEASON. SPIRIT LOW IS ALSO THE SEASON.

OBVIOUSLY, FINANCIAL REASONS, FAMILY REASONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW IN A SOCIETY WE ARE CONSTANTLY PUSHED TO SEE MATERIALISTIC VIEW ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR. I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE TRUE SPIRIT OF THE SEASON WHETHER IT IS HANUKKAH OR KWANZAA, CHRISTMAS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

JUST TO REMEMBER AND HOLD THOSE CLOSE TO YOU.

AND JUST TO BE MINDFUL AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL PEOPLE AND HOPING FOR A BETTER HUTTO AGAIN THERE'S A 24/7 CRISIS HOTLINE, 988. IF YOU HAVE ANY THAT ARE KIND OF HAVE A MOMENT THEY NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

>> THANK YOU MAN. >> WANT TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS HUTTO. HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> KNIFE WILL BE A TOUGH MEETING AND I PRAY THAT WE ALL CONTINUE TO HAVE GRACE AND PATIENCE WITH EACH OTHER. AND RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER.

AND TAKE A STEP BACK AND REALIZE THAT MAYBE THERE IS

SOMETHING TO LEARN HERE. >> THANK YOU.

ANY GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL? HEARING ON, MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.

>> I HAVE ONE TO START US OFF. THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD ACTUALLY MET LAST NIGHT AND IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING LOTS

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OF STUFF GOING ON. THERE WAS A PRESENTATION FROM THE HUTTO YOUTH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, WRAPPING UP THE YEAR AND HOW THEY WORK WITH THE CITY.

ALSO, WE ARE SEEING AN AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING SO IT IS INFORMATIVE ABOUT THAT. THEY ALSO SAW AN UPDATED MASTER PLAN FOR FRITZ PARK, IT WAS PRESENTED LAST NIGHT AND THE BOARD APPROVED A HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT, LOOK GREAT IT IS CLEAN, THE CITY MANAGER, JAMES ARP, HE LOOKED WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, WASN'T COMPLETELY FINISHED, HE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND GOT A BETTER PRODUCT TO START FROM SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD MAKING FRITZ PARK BETTER. THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD GREAT QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION WAS SUPER PRODUCTIVE.

ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN. THE VETERANS MEMORIAL WAS ALSO ON THE AGENDA. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BUT NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THAT. AND THE BOARD ALSO REVIEWED AND PASSED THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.

THAT IS A RECAP. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER LIAISON REPORTS? >> I HAVE ONE, HE WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING WE WERE HAVING OUR SPECIAL CALL, I DID WATCH IT THOUGH AND REALLY, ENJOYED THE DIALOGUE THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT MEETING.

THERE WERE, THERE WAS AN ITEM RAISED ABOUT THE TRUCKS HAVE TO GET SPECIAL PERMITTING TO OPERATE.

AND ASHLEY ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT PERSON ACTUALLY IS RUNNING THE AREA AND OLD TOWN HAS A TRAILERS, YOU WOULD NEED A TO HAVE MORE. EMMA PEREZ AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU ALL WERE HERE LATE THAT NIGHT.

AND I ALSO, LOVE THE DIALOGUE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LEADER IN 10.1. WITH THE ISD AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY VIBRANT MEETING AND A LOT OF INPUT AND I THOUGHT, I WAS VERY PROUD SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT.

THAT YOU PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO RECOMMENDATION TO THE

COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU.

>> A COUPLE OF BRIEF UPDATES FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. THEY HAVE NOT MET FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BUT I'VE TALKED TO THEIR CHAIRPERSON AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THERE IS SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO ATTEND THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION CONFERENCE.

COMING UP IN FEBRUARY AND THEY SHOULD BE WORKING WITH STAFF TO SEE IF THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE.

THERE ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN PRESERVING THE OLD REALTY PLUS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE HUTTO ISD, THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN DONATING TO US AND WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. I'VE ASKED HER TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA WHERE THEY CAN DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH A PLAN. WHAT TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE WITHOUT A PLAN WE WILL BE ABLE TO REALLY ACCOMPLISH MUCH.

AND SO, HOPEFULLY THE NEXT MEETING WITH US THE END OF THIS MONTH OR IN JANUARY THEY SHOULD BE MEETING AND COME UP WITH A PLAN WITH COUNSEL TO REALLY RECOMMEND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT, TAKING ON HOW MUCH WILL COST AND GET THE RESEARCH DONE. MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION.

>> THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER?

>> YES. >> ONE QUESTION, IS IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF HUTTO?

>> GREAT POINT. HAVEN'T SEEN ANY UPDATES RECENTLY BUT THERE WORKING ON THE HISTORY.

THERE WORKING ON CHAPTER BY CHAPTER AND REVIEWING IT AS I GO ALONG. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY CHAPTERS THEY COMPLETED. I THINK THREE OR FOUR.

>> THAT IS ONGOING. >> YES.

>> I MET YESTERDAY TRANSFER THE COUNCIL AREA OF GOVERNMENT.

THE FIRST AGENDA MEETING WAS TO ELECT EXECUTIVE STAFF FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN THEY HAD THE AUSTIN DISTRICT ENGINEER THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE AUSTIN AREA AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE MOBILITY 35 PROGRAM, I WANT TO SHARE BRIEFLY WITH SOME SLIDES WHAT'S COMING FOR THE 35 CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THE NEXT DECADE. AT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY WOULD KNOW EVEN THOUGH SLOW FURTHER WHERE THINK IT IS AN INTERESTING TOPIC.NE THING THEY WANTED TO SAY WAS THAT CENTRAL TEXAS IS POPULAR WE ARE SEEING

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UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH, NOT JUST HUTTO.

CURRENTLY 2.3 MILLION RESIDENTS AND THEY EXPECT US TO BE AT 4.5 MILLION IN CENTRAL TEXAS AREATH AVERAGE MILES TRAVELED IS CURRENTLY 38.5 MILLION MILES DAILY AND 93 PERCENT IS FOR PERSONAL VEHICLE USE. WE TRULY HAVE TRANSPORTATION IS NOT JUST IN HUTTO BUT IN THE WHOLE CENTRAL TEXAS MOBILITY SECTION, AS WE GO FORWARD. THE MOBILITY 35 PROGRAM IS A REGIONWIDE EFFORT ON NINE MILES OF I 35 FOR WILLIAMSON, TRAVIS AND HAYES COUNTY YOU CAN SEE DOWN LIST.

WE HAVE FOUR OF THE HUNDRED MOST CONGESTED ROADWAYS.

THERE IS $5 BILLION ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND DESIGN, 800 MILLION ACTIVE PROJECTS.

30 ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE REGION THAT ARE BEING FUNDED. SO, THE FIRST BIG GOAL IS TO UPDATE 35 IN THREE PHASES, THERE IS A EXIT SOUTH, NORTH AND CENTRAL. AND THE ABILITY IS TO MINIMIZE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY INCLUDE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC FLOW, ALLOW BETTER EAST-WEST CONNECTIVITY ACROSS 35. AN APPROVED COMPATIBILITY WITH NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE 35 CORRIDOR AND ENHANCE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN TRANSIT OPTIONS. NEXT SLIDE.

THE FIRST CONSTRUCTION STARTED LAST MONTH NOVEMBER 2022.

THIS IS NOT SOME ANALOGOUS THING THAT'S HAPPENING, IT'S HAPPENING APPEAR THE CAPITOL EXPRESS SOUTH ALREADY STARTED.

THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE TWO MANAGED LANES IN THE CENTER THAT WILL BE FOR HIGH OCCUPANT VEHICLES THAT GO EACH DIRECTION ON 35.E WILL HAVE HOV LANES AND 35.

THERE IS A SHARED USE PATH, THEY WILL CONSTRUCT THE BRIDGES, A LOT OF THEM -- UP TO THE, NOT DOMAIN BUT IN ROUND ROCK, WHERE BASS PRO SHOP IS, THE WEIRD BRIDGE CRISSCROSSES, IT WILL BE MORE OF THOSE BECAUSE IT -- BRIDGES GOING PAST UT WILL NO LONGER BE THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, HAVE SOME SCENES. BASICALLY, THERE ARE TWO ALTERNATIVES. ALTERNATIVE ONE OR TWO IS WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AND AFTER GETTING A BUNCH OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND TRAVIS COUNTY, THEY CREATED A CONCEPT WITH A WILL CREATED BOULEVARD AND GET RID OF THE ACCESS ROAD LONG 35. ASICALLY, FROM BETWEEN CESAR CHAVEZ AND PASSED THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY WILL HAVE A BOULEVARD YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN IT CROSSES OVER IN THE ORANGE. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A BOULEVARD ON ONE SIDE, BIG CONNECTIVITY BRIDGES ACROSS 35.

THEN THE BIG THING IS 35 WILL BE SUNK BELOW STREET LEVEL.

IT WILL ALMOST BE LIKE A TUNNEL.F WE GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE. THIS IS SHOWING THE STREETS WHERE THIS WILL OCCUR. ALL WE GOT TO 11TH ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO, THIS IS A BIG CONCEPT, GET RID OF THOSE OVERHEAD BRIDGES THAT ARE UNSIGHTLY, YOU CAN SEE THEY WILL SINK THE ROADS BUT THEN ON THE RIGHT, THEY WILL CREATE GREEN SPACES OVER THE HIGHWAY.

SO YOU CAN JUST WALK ACROSS THE DOWNTOWN.

AND THEN THAT'S THE BOULEVARD I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS KIND OF A CONCEPT OF WHAT DOWNTOWN WILL LOOK LIKE WITHIN 10 YEARS.

IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE A CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU CAN REALLY DO WHEN YOU TRY TO MIRROR MODERN DESIGN, ENVIRONMENTAL

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FRIENDLY, CREATE A MORE WALKABLE SPACE.

AND IT'S EXCITING. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

THEN THE OTHER THING THEY WILL DO IS REDO AROUND LADY BIRD LAKE AND HAVE SUNK PEDESTRIAN WALKING AROUND THE LAKE ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND THEN, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR THE FOURTH STREET WITH PEDESTRIAN WALKING AND THE RAIL LINE. AND THEN THE OTHER LESS THAN, THIS IS THE PSA TO EVERYONE -- UPDATE FOR THE EDC. I CAN'T SAY WHOLE LOT.

WE DID MEET, WE DISCUSSED A FEW PROJECTS.

PROJECT -- PROJECT GRACELAND, PROJECT TITAN, PROJECT SKYBOX, PROJECT POLY, PROJECT CHICAGO, PROJECT E IN THE OVERALL MEGA SITE. I THINK WE'LL SEE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS COME OUT JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND SPRING.

A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR A WHILE.

THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER FOR THESE BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPERS TO ANNOUNCE WHAT THEY ARE DOING BUT THE BALANCE OF HOMEOWNERS PAYING MAJORITY PROPERTY TAX SHIFTED LAST YEAR TO BE UNDER 50 PERCENT AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, HAVE THE PROJECTS MAKE IT, THE AMOUNT OF TAXES PAID BY THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE, WILL ONLY GO UP. WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE FOR THE CITY SECRETARY. YOU HAVE TO DICTATE ALL COMMENTS ANYMORE. SO, THAT CAME ON THE LAST TRAINING. OKAY.

ANY OTHER LIAISON REPORTS? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, 7.3, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY AGENDA ITEMS WE WISH TO GET

ON THE AGENDA? >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT AGENDA ITEM BUT I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

I REALLY LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE D&I COMMISSION TO ENCOURAGE US TO DO THE TRAINING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS CAPTURED.

AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO PUT AS AN ITEM OR INDIVIDUALLY REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY

WOULD BE. >> MAYBE LIKE WE DID FOR THE TRAINING AT THE OPEN MEETINGS THOSE ARE ABLE TO GO CAN AND --

>> DO Y'ALL HAVE AN INCLINATION AS TO HOW OFTEN IS TOO OFTEN HAVE GENERAL TRAINING THAT WE INVITE EVERYONE TO? DO WE WANT TO TARGET A QUARTERLY OR TWICE A YEAR TYPE TRAINING? WE KNOW WE WILL ALWAYS DO THE

OPEN MEETINGS AND ALL THE STUFF >> ANY OTHER ITEMS?

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>> THE ONLY OTHER ONE I HAVE, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE ABOUT A LOT OF CITIES IN TEXAS SOMETIMES TO CUSTOM COLORED SIGNS OR LOGO ON THEIR STREET SIGNS.

AS WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING, IF WE COULD LOOK ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO GET A HIPPO DESIGN ON THE STREET SIGNS, SO WE HAVE THE STREET SIGN WE HAVE ONE ON EVERY STREET AND AS WE REPLACED THREE TIMES TO THE CITY, THEY CAN GET REPLACED.

ALL NEW DEVELOPERS COMING IN, OUR CITY WILL DOUBLE IN SIZE IN 10 YEARS. THAT WOULD LOOSE BEHALF OF THEM, JUST BY WORKING ON THAT AND GET INPUT FROM THE

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CITIZENS. JUST SO WE COULD TIE IN THAT AS PART OF IT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE

INTERESTING. >> CAN YOU GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HOW YOU WANT THAT WORDED?

>> SURE, COOL. >> ANY OTHER ITEMS? HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT. I RECOGNIZE WE RECEIVED A COMMENT FROM MR. MARK LYONS. EVERYBODY RECEIVED, WANT TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. >> HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I ONLY GOT ONE PAGE. >> WHAT HUTTO CAN DO IS WHERE

IT ENDED. >> ANGELA, CAN YOU CHECK IF THERE IS A SECOND PAGE? NEXT, TERRENCE OWENS.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT CAME TO MAKE A PUBLIC PSA COMING.

I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE, TO THINK THE WORK.

I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BRIAN AND SOME OF THE TASK FORCE.

AS A RESIDENT OF HUTTO THE PAST 22 YEARS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED AND HAS GROWN. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS BUT I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SPOKEN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT MINDSET.

DIVERSITY TRAINING IS DIFFERENT, DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. AND SO, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE DISTRICT BUT WE DO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF YOU EVER WANT INFORMATION OR NEED SOME FEEDBACK, YOU'VE GOT GREAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN DOING THE WORK FOR OVER A YEAR. TONIGHT, I WANT TO INVITE THE COUNCIL MAYOR AND CITY, TIME TOGETHER AGAIN TO CELEBRATE KWANZAA. THIS YOU WILL BE AT THE HUTTO DISCOVERY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH FROM 530 TO 7:30 PM.

THERE WILL BE A PERFORMANCE AND ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS A POTLUCK SO, IF POSSIBLE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BRING A SIDE DISH. KWANZAA IS A CELEBRATED SEVEN PRINCIPLES UNITY, SELF-DETERMINATION, COLLECTIVE WORK IN RESPONSE ABILITY, COOPERATIVE ECONOMICS, PURPOSE, CREATIVITY AND FAITH. I THINK THIS TYPE OF EVENT AND SOME MORE EVENTS WILL BE HELD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WILL JUST STRENGTHEN THE BOND BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> YOU SAID ON DECEMBER 26?

>> YES 26 FROM 5:30 P.M. TO 7:30 PM.EING PUT ON BY THE BLACK FAMILIES OF HUTTO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS AN EVENT FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN. >> THANK YOU CERTAIN LOCATION

WAS THE HUTTO -- >> METHODIST CHURCH.

>> DISCOVERY OR? >> NEXT BRINGS US TO CONSENT

[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEMS 9.1 394 FOR

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CONSIDERATION. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEMS 9.2 AND 9.3. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.

HEARING NONE, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

DISCUSSION ITEMS 9.1 AND 9.4. >> MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

APPROVING 9.1 AND 9.4 AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2022-109 authorizing the City Manager to execute an Athletic Facility Use Agreement with Hutto Youth Baseball and Softball Association (Jeff White)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT ITEM 9.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. R-2022-109 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN ATHLETIC FACILITY USE AGREEMENTWITH HUTTO YOUTH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION . I WILL BRING THIS FIRST UP TO COUNCIL. READING THE AGREEMENT, OVERALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MAYBE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REWRITE PARTS OF IT. THE GENERAL THEME, IT FEELS LIKE THE CITY IS VERY INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR NONPROFIT.

BUT IN OTHER, THE SOCCER PROGRAM, YMCA AND OTHER NONPROFIT ACTIVITIES, THE CITY IS NOT AS INVOLVED.

AND SO, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT REGULATIONS HAVING TO DO THIS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ORDINANCES WOULD HAVE THEM DO WHEN IT PERTAINS TO ALMOST EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING THERE. I FEEL LIKE IS A COUNCIL WE ARE OKAY LET HIM USE THE BASEBALL FIELD AND WE SHOULD TREAT THEM THE SAME WAY WE TREAT THE PEOPLE THAT USE OUR SOCCER FIELDS. IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE ALL IN THEIR BUSINESS. HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE RAISING AND EARNING AND WE DON'T DO THAT WITH OTHER NONPROFITS.

IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL, I CAN GO LITERALLY POINT BY POINT BUT I WOULD RATHER US TAKE A BREAK.

MAYBE POINT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. IN A COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON IS

A BIG PROPONENT. >> SO, THERE IS ONE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THAT. THERE CONCERT IS OVER NOW.

THEY NEED A CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN JANUARY.

THEY NEED TO START REGISTERING PEOPLE FOR THE SPRING SEASON IN JANUARY BECAUSE PRACTICES START SHORTLY AFTER THAT.

THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO WAIT.

ONE OF THE TIMES IS GOING TO ASK WAS THAT IT BE CHANGED.

THE CONTRACT IS DONE EARLIER IN THE YEAR SO THERE ISN'T PRESSURE TO GET IT DONE. THUS THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW.E DON'T HAVE TIME TO CHANGE THIS, THEN WE WILL COME BACK IN JANUARY. THE LEAGUE WON'T BE ABLE TO START REGISTRATION SO IT WILL THROW THINGS OFF IF THAT HAPPENS. I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS FROM OTHER AGREEMENTS. WHAT HAPPENED WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THE CITY GOT WAY UP IN THE BUSINESS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A PULLBACK BUT NOT TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE

THAT. >> MAYBE THIS IS A TOPIC WE CAN TAKE UP DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE THERE IS SOME COST-SHARING AND WITH THE CITY TAKING ON SOME RESPONSIBILITIES, AND ALSO BEING REIMBURSED FROM THE NONPROFIT AS WELL. MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A TOPIC DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. POTENTIALLY.

>> BECAUSE IT IS A RESOLUTION, AND TO YOUR POINT, THREATS OF COUNSEL THINK THEY ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE, WE COULD GO BACK AND AMEND LESTER'S AGREEMENT TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE. AND EXTEND IT TO SAY, MARCH OR APRIL SO THAT THEY CAN OPERATE ON THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

MY FEAR IS, IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE AGREEMENT AND WE APPROVE IT, IT IS HOW CITY GOVERNMENT IS, WE WILL NOT COME BACK TO IT UNTIL NEXT SEPTEMBER.

AND SO, IF WE JUST MAYBE AMEND IT TO MAKE IT GO UNTIL MARCH OR APRIL, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN BRING THE AMENDMENT NEXT WEEK.

FOR THE NEXT MEETING THEN WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE.

I WILL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK EXAMPLES.

WE'VE GOT LET'S SEE -- ANY AND ALL SIGNAGE AND BANNERS TEMPERING PERMANENT NEED TO GO THROUGH RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

ANY TEMPORARY SIGNAGE. I THINK IT GOES THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. WE GOT ALMOST 2 THINGS.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE PASS THE ORDINANCE LAST YEAR. DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL OF THESE FIELDS ARE AT SOME OF THEM FACE ROADWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK IF WE DON'T MAKE THE YMCA RUN, I DON'T THINK WE DO RUN EVERY SIGN THEY PUT UP. IT IS NOT LIKE IT'S A NEW

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ORGANIZATION THAT JUST CAME TO HUTTO.

IT RELEASED THE FACILITIES LIKE WE DO AT OTHER PLACES.

BUT THAT WAS ONE -- I APPRECIATE THE LOW FEES FROM RESIDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO REGISTRATION.

I DID WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF OUR PEOPLE PARTICIPATE ARE FROM HUTTO AND NOT BECAUSE I DON'T MIND A LOWER RATE FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT BUT THEN NONRESIDENTS, IT IS ONLY FIVE DOLLARS MORE. BUT THEN I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE ACTUALLY DICTATING HOW MUCH THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE BECAUSE LIKE ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE OUR FACILITIES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DICTATED WERE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TELL THEM HOW MUCH TO PAY AND REPORT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

EVEN USE OF CONCESSION STANDS. WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT TELLS YOU HOW YOU CAN RENT CONCESSION STANDS AND THIS HAS OTHER TYPE OF THINGS. THE LAST ONE, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT THEY CANNOT EVEN CHALK THE FIELD WE HAVE THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW FOR PEOPLE ON SATURDAY BUT WE ARE PAYING CITY EMPLOYEES TO GO OUT AND CHALK FIELDS I GUESS EVERY SATURDAY OR SUNDAY WHEN THEY PLAY.

I THINK THEIR CABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THAT FOR THE SOCCER, WE DON'T DO THAT FOR THE YMCA. LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT WERE THINK WE OUGHT TO AGREE IS A COUNSEL APPEARED TO BE MORE TO THE HOUSE BASEBALL SYSTEM RUN BY A NONPROFIT, WHICH I THINK IS 100 PERCENT THE WAY TO GO. OR DO WE WANT THE CITY TO DO IT? THE WAY IT'S SET UP WE HAVE THE CITY SO INVOLVED IN WHAT THEY DID WHEN HIS PEOPLE COUGH THAT LITERALLY COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE CITY.

IT'S JUST NOT WHAT I SEE OTHER NONPROFITS DO.

THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

>> I THINK THAT MAYBE WITH TRYING TO, THE INITIAL IDEA OF JUST AMENDING THE AGREEMENT, TO EXTEND THROUGH MARCH OR APRIL, I WAS, SPRING SEASON IS KICKING OFF, MORE FUNDS WOULD NEED TO BE ALLOCATED TO A BEER BUDGET AMENDMENT.

AND AFTER THAT OF COURSE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I ASSUME THAT THE BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR PROBABLY COVERED LAST YEAR AND NOW LIKE YOU SAID, THEY HAVE TO GET EVERYTHING APPROVED THROUGH THE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WERE KIND OF PIECEMEAL THAT TOGETHER TO KIND OF DO A BUDGET MEMO JUST TO GET IT THROUGH MARCH OR APRIL AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BIT I DID JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE TO DO A

BUDGET MEMO AS WELL. >> AND THIS IS A PULLBACK OF THE PREVIOUS ONCE OR LOOK AT IT AS A STEP FORWARD, AND NEXT YEAR WE GET A REWRITE AGREEMENT.

BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT IT'S IMPROVEMENT FROM LESTER'S AGREEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY TO EXTEND A WORSE AGREEMENT. NOW WE JUST SET YOU KNOW YOU AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM PUT OUT A LIST FOR US TO FOLLOW UP ON THINGS. THIS WILL BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE THIS ONE GETS ADDED AND TRACKED AS A PROJECT FOR NEXT

YEAR. >> I THINK IF WE MAKE AN ITEM THAT WE WILL HAVE FOR FUTURE DINNER AND TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC, THEN HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TEST CASE WE ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE DOING THAT.

>> I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR MIDDLE OF THE GROUND KIND OF GOING WITH THE MAYOR! ALSO WITH THE DATES.

ON PAGE 27 OF THE PACKET, UNDER 13 SCHEDULING STATUS CONDITIONS, SAYS -- MUST BE RESERVED THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THE FIELDS ARE CLOSED FROM DECEMBER 31 UNTIL JANUARY 31 AND AUGUST 1 UNTIL AUGUST 31, TO ALLOW PROPER MAINTENANCE UPKEEP AND RENOVATION SO THE CITY CAN KIND OF REJUVENATE THE FIELDS.

AND THEN THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GENERAL.

IF WE PUT THIS CONTRACT UNTIL AUGUST 31 AND GET THEM THROUGH SPRING AND SUMMER IF THERE IS A SUMMER LEAGUE IT ALSO LINES UP WITH OUR BUDGET, RIGHT? TIMELINES THAT WE CAN HAVE IT IN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT WE CAN GET THEM.

THE CONTRACT RENEWED. AND MAKE CHANGES WE LIKE.

APPROVE THIS UNTIL AUGUST 31. >> WHAT IF WE APPROVE THIS

UNTIL APRIL 1? >> I'M JUST TRYING TO LINE UP THE TIMELINE SO WE DON'T MISS THE BALL ON GETTING ON THE AGENDA. TO YOUR POINT, YOU SAY IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT SOMETIMES IT GETS MISSED.

BUT THIS KIND OF ALSO LINES TO THE BUDGET.

>> THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT YOUTH SPORTS CONTRACT TERMS RUN ON THE CALENDAR YEAR. AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

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>> I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T KNOW AUGUST 1 WE WOULD

HAVE SUCH LATE MEETINGS. >> JUST FOR INFORMATION,

SOCCER, IS NOT A NONPROFIT? >> GOOD EVENING MARY AND COUNCIL JEFF WHITE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION IS NOT IN OUR PROPERTY IS A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS AND RENEGOTIATION FOR THE FACILITIES AGREEMENT WITH

THEM AS WELL. >> I THINK ALSO, WHENEVER WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND AWARDED THE NONPROFITS THEIR FUNDS, THEIR REQUIRED TO DO QUARTERLY REPORTS AND BRING RECEIPTS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FUNDING.

WHILE IT MAY NOT BE QUITE ASTRINGENT OF A CONTRACT, NONPROFITS DRIFT ME QUARTERLY REPORTS, AND IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY AND FUNDS, THEY DO HAVE THE SHOW ALL OF THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING EXPENDED AND I BELIEVE CHRISTIE WAS HERE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR COUNCIL THE OTHER NONPROFITS HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES. MAYBE NOT ASTRINGENT BUT THEY

ARE THERE. >> I THINK IS DIFFERENT THOUGH BECAUSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR RECEIVING GRANT FUNDING.

HIS IS JUST RENTING THE FIELD.

THIS CONFLICTS WITH ORDINANCES FOR EXAMPLE.

WHEN YOU SELL PRODUCTS AND CITY PARKS YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE I BELIEVE IS 10 PERCENT OF THE SALES, IS THAT CORRECT?

BACK TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. >> THERE IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THAT. I THINK THE CAVEAT IS UNLESS YOU ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IF WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, YOGA IN THE PARK, THEY ARE SELLING THEIR SERVICE.

THEY'VE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT STRUCTURE AGREEMENT WITH US THEN THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THAT. AND THIS CASE IT WOULD BE EXEMPT. AND I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS FOR AGREEMENTS. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS DICTATING WHAT FEES ARE AND ARE NOT GOING TO BE COLLECTED.

AND SO THEY GET TO DECIDE, NOT CITY COUNCIL.

FOR ME THIS TAKES POWER AWAY FROM CITY COUNCIL.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DECIDES WHETHER THEY WILL CHARGE YOGA PEOPLE OR BASEBALL PEOPLE. AND THEN, WELL YOU SELL T-SHIRTS OR NOT. I REALLY THINK IT IS THE PURVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SHOULDEST BE RUNNING THE PARKS AND IMPROVING THEM, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHERE A LOT OF THINGS ARE CONTRARY TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALIZE HOW MANY OF THESE ARE DIFFERENT. ANYWAY, I DON'T MIND EXTENDING COME ON MONDAY PROVING THIS ONE UNTIL APRIL SO THAT IT MAKES US WORK THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, BUT IN MY MIND IF WE GO TO AUGUST, WE WILL FRAME THIS WITH THE BUDGET.

>> WE CAN CHANGE THE DAY. >> WE CAN HAVE AN ORDINANCE COME BACK NEXT MEETING THE CHANGES THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD HATE TO VOTE NO ON AGREEMENT THAT I THINK IS THAT BARELY RAN BECAUSE PREVIOUS TIMES WE VOTE YES FOR STUFF ONLY TO COME BACK AND SAY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.

ANYWAY. >> JEFF, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE AGREEMENT AND HER HISTORY AND EVERYTHING? DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

>> THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION. THIS IS AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT WITH HAD IN PLACES 2019, THERE'S ONLY A FEW MINOR CHANGES FROM THE CURRENT ONE. RELATED TO THE MOST RECENTLY ADOPTED PARKS AND RECREATION ORDINANCES BE ADOPTED IN OCTOBER, RELATING ALCOHOL. WE HAVE LANGUAGE ON THAT.

WE UPDATED SOME OF THE OTHER LANGUAGE RELATED TO, LET ME VERIFY BEFORE I SPEAK. LEE, FOR THE ALL-STARS, FOR THE TERMS OF USE. IT WAS AN HOURLY FEE FOR LIFE AND FIELD SO WE MADE A SET FEE, WHICH REDUCED THE COST FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE FEE LOWERED TO $25-$10.

THE FINANCIAL REPORTING DEADLINE WAS EXTENDED TO 30 DAYS. THE FIELD CLOSURE TIME WAS EXTENDED FROM NOVEMBER 15 UNTIL DECEMBER 31.

THAT GIVES MORE OPTIONS IF THEY WANT TO DO A SANTA BASEBALL TOURNAMENT IN DECEMBER, THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.

THOSE ONLY MAJOR CHANGES WE HAVE FROM EXISTING ONE.

ON THE BOOKS. >> TO MY POINT, ALL OF THE

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UTILITY RATES ALL ELECTRICITY RATES ARE GOING UP.

SO, WHY DID PARKS AND REC LOOK AT LOOK GOOD TO LET ME THIS IS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE HISTORY ANALYSIS WAS BEING SPENT FOR THE TIME THE FLIGHTS ARE ON? REPLACEMENT COST OF THE BULBS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THAT TIME, THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL COST.

DID THE PARKS BOARD GO THROUGH ALL THAT? I DON'T MIND THE AGREEMENT BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE NUMBERS OR WHERE THE CALCULATIONS WERE MADE.

I'M ASSUMING YOU ALL DO THAT BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, WAS THAT DONE? AND IF NOT, HOW DO YOU DISCERN WHAT THE RATE IS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THEN YOU'RE JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP.

>> THE RATE IS SET IN THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE HOURLY RATE THAT WE CHARGE FOR THE LIGHTS, WHERE IT'S IN THE FEE SCHEDULE.

THAT'S BASED ON BEST PRACTICES, FROM OTHER CITIES AND WHAT OUR FEES ARE TO TRY AND COVER AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR ENERGY PROVIDER, IS GREATLY REDUCED FROM WHAT YOU PAID A RESIDENTIAL RATE.

THEY HAVE FOR THE YEAR, FOR ELECTRICAL, -- HOW LONG THE SEASON EXTENDS FOR, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> RIGHT, BUT MY QUESTION WAS, YOU LOWERED IT TO A FLAT RATE VERSUS HOW LONG THE GAME GOES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE BASEBALL GAME COULD GO LONGER BECAUSE OF STUFF.O I DON'T KNOW WHY LIKE DID YOU DO THE ANALYSIS IS A FLAT RATE IS STILL COVERING OUR OPERATIONAL COST? I DON'T MIND IF A NONPROFIT, I'M NOT SAYING WE ARE A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION EITHER SO IF WE DO THOSE THEN IT MAKES SENSE BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU DIDN'T DO THAT, AND JUST SAID WILL JUST MAKE IT 500, THAT WAS

MY QUESTION. >> WE DID ANALYSIS OF WHAT THEY PAID IN THE PAST AND TOOK THAT, WHEN THE TYPICALLY FELLOW AND THEN -- IF THEY HAVE 10 TEAMS TO QUALIFY FOR ALL-STARS, THEY PRACTICED 2 TO 3 TIMES A WEEK, WE TOOK THAT NUMBER TIMES OF FIELD RENTAL FEE BASED ON HOW MANY WEEKS THEY ANTICIPATE GOING, THAT'S WHAT HE CAME UP WITH A FLAT FEE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TRACK INDIVIDUALLY, THIS TEAM PRACTICE THIS WEEK OR THIS TEAM PRACTICE THIS WEEK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT MAKES IT EASIER ON OUR END TO HAVE A FLAT FEE.

>> I GET THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> I WASN'T GOING TO ASK YOUR QUESTION WITHIN I WILL ASK YOU.

DO WE TRUST THEM? ARE THEY TRUSTWORTHY PEOPLE? LIKE FINANCIALLY? ARE THEY DISHONEST? OR ANYTHING? LIKE WHAT IS YOUR VIEW?

>> THEY ARE A VOLUNTEER RUN 501(C)(3), AND PART OF OUR AGREEMENT, REQUIRES A PROVIDE FINANCIALS TO US.

THAT COVERS THE CITY, IN CASE THERE IS ANY DISCREPANCY IN THE FUNDING. THEY ARE VERY TRUSTWORTHY ORGANIZATION THEY'VE ALWAYS PAID, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEM. BUT THAT IS IN THEIR TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY ISSUES.

>> LIABILITY WITH A NONPROFIT, WHAT WOULD THAT BRING TO A CITY? LET'S SAY THAT AN INVESTMENT OF $500. HOW DOES THAT COME BACK?

>> IT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON OUR PROPERTY.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO SEE LEGAL OPINION BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO RENT A PAVILION IN THE CITY. I MEAN, THIS LIABILITY THING, I THINK IT'S AN EXCUSE TO GET IN AND I THINK THIS IS WHY BUT IT APPEARED HE FORCED INTO THE CHECKING ACCOUNT.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S FAIRLY EASY.

THEY CANNOT GIVE REIMBURSEMENT OF OVER $25 TO ANY ORGANIZATION. ALL CASH REIMBURSEMENTS MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY RECEIPT. DO WE REQUIRE THIS OF THE YMCA? BECAUSE THERE NONPROFIT OPERATING ON CITY PROPERTY.

TO YOUR POINT, THAT IS LEGITIMATELY A VALID LEGAL REASON THE YMCA NEEDS TO PROVIDE THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE COULD GET SUED BY THE CITY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO GIVE DOCUMENTATION.

THEY HAVE TO KEEP ALL CANCELED CHECKS.

NO ONE KEEPS CANCELED CHECKS. THEY ARE DIGITAL NOW.

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THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION TO VERIFY THEY ARE A VALID NONPROFIT. THAT IS AN ONEROUS THING, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR THE PAYMENT OF OFFICIALS WITHIN THE FINANCIAL REPORTS.

THEY HAD TO NOTIFY YOU OF ANY FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY.

I WOULD THINK THEY NEED TO NOTIFY THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE OF THEIR FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY, WE JUST OPENED UP A HUGE LEGAL -- NO OFFENSE TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BUT THEY NOTIFY YOU, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE DIRECTOR GOT NOTIFIED OF PROBLEMS AND IT WASN'T NOTIFIED TO THE CITY MANAGER. JUST THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A POLICY EACH YEAR BY JANUARY 31, AND I'M GOING, THIS IS SO MUCH OVERREACH INTO AN ORGANIZATIONS -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POLICY FOR THE YMCA, THE SOCCER CLUB, AND ANY OTHER NONPROFIT THAT DOES BUSINESS IN HUTTO, I LIKE TO SEE IT ALL.

BECAUSE WHY WE MAKING THEM, WHAT YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS, THERE LITTLE BIT OF A COMPETITOR BACK IN SKYBOX WE WANT TO BE CITY OF HUTTO LEAGUES AND WANTED NONPROFITS.

AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF THE NONPROFITS BUT IF WE MAKE IT DIFFICULT ENOUGH THAT WE CAN COME IN WITH HER OWN LEAGUES. I PREFER TO HAVE NONPROFITS RUNNING ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMING IS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

BUT WHEN I SEE THIS, I FEEL SORRY FOR THESE GUYS BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING QUITE LIKE THIS.

AND SO, THAT IS WHY I THINK IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SCRAPPED AND WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THE SOCCER CLUB I HOPE YOU WILL DO THIS BECAUSE YOU WILL DO THE EXACT SAME ISSUES.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I ASKED IF WE TRUST THEM.

$25 REIMBURSEMENTS, THEY'VE GOT TO NOTIFY THE CITY OF.

AND TODAY'S DAY AND AGE, -- IF THEY BUY A COUPLE OF MEALS HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU. THEY GET PAID ENOUGH MONEY TO WHERE IS IT WORTH SPENDING TAX DOLLARS WITH YOUR SALARY, YOUR TIME COULD BE BETTER SPENT MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, BUILDING BATHROOMS AT PARKS INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT WHO SPENT $20.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY, JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER.

I CAN'T THINK OF, I CAN'T THINK OF MANY VALUABLE REASONS FOR THIS LEVEL OF REPORTING. CERTAINLY, WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO AUDIT THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE ARE CHARGING IS BASED OFF OF WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US THEY ARE DOING. THE FIELD RENTAL OBVIOUSLY AND IS AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE WE KNOW IF THEY ARE THERE OR NOT BUT IF WE ARE RECEIVING PAYMENT BASED OFF OF HOW MANY PLAYERS THERE ARE AND HOW MANY TEAMS AND HOW MANY UMPIRES DOING THIS THAT AND THE OTHER, EFFICIENTLY NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF REPORT BUT I DON'T SEE AND DOTTIE CAN DEFINITELY WEIGH IN ON THE LEGAL SIDE. BUT IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO STRIKE THE SECTION, I DON'T THINK THAT IS OVERLY DETRIMENTAL. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THEIR RECORDS, IF WE WERE CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE UNDER REPORTING FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH WOULD BE YOUR CONCERN, IF YOU WERE CONCERNED THEY WERE UNDER REPORTING THEY WOULD AGREE TO GIVE US THE RIGHT TO CHECK THEIR BOOKS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN IMAGINE WHY WE REALLY NEED ALL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS.

DOTTIE? >> MY SUGGESTION WAS GOING TO BE, THE SUMMARY CITY FIELDS ARE SHUT DOWN FROM DECEMBER 31 UNTIL JANUARY 31? CAN WE LOOK AT THESE CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK JANUARY 5? > THE NEED TO REGISTER -- QUICKLY WHEN OPEN REGISTRATION UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACT.

BECAUSE IN THEIR TAKING MONEY FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE.

I THINK THE CONTRACT EVEN SAYS I HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT.>> I PROPOSE WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

WE ASK THE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE TAKING AWAY, BECAUSE AGAIN, I WANT THE POWER OF THINGS TO BE IN THE COUNCIL I WANT TO BE TOLD WE HAVE TO APPROVE A CONTRACT AND WHEN WE DON'T. AND JUST THAT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT OR WHATEVER, AS SET BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND SHARING MY NOTES TO SOMEBODY IF YOU DON'T WANT ME ON THE COMMITTEE BUT COUNCILMEMBER THORTON BEING INVOLVED AND HYBSA OR INVOLVED IN VISTA WITH HIS CHILDREN AND OF COUNCILMEMBER AND OTHER PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, THE ONE LAST ONE HAD TO REPORT WHAT THEY WILL SELL AT THE CONCESSION STAND.

I'M LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE SELLING FUND DIPS AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OUR EMPLOYEES MAKE TOO MUCH

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MONEY TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT FLAVOR OF FUN DIP OR RING POP OR WHATEVER. IF WE DON'T TRUST THEM, THEN WE DON'T DO IT. BUT WOULDN'T REQUIRE THAT OF EVERYBODY ELSE WHO RUNS OUR CONCESSION STANDS.

I REMEMBER PASSING THE ORDINANCE AND WE DECIDED TO GET TO PAY A FEE AND RENT THE SNACK BAR.

BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, WE HAVE TO KNOW IF THERE DURING YOUR DRUGS. I JUST DON'T THINK, I THINK WE CAN EASILY, TWO OR THREE OF US COULD GET TOGETHER, GIVE INFORMATION WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING PASSED AT THE NEXT MEETING. BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE WERE GOING TO ADD REGULATIONS TO THEM, THEY SHOULD BE JUMPING UP AND DOWN HAPPY THAT WE ARE GETTING BUSINESS IF THEY DECIDE TO GO

THAT WAY. >> JUST TO CLARIFY.

WE WANT TO GET MORE OUT OF THE CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY TO BE MORE VAGUE, BUT YOU WANT COUNCIL HAVE MORE CONTROL, CORRECT?

I'M JUST TRYING TO MARRY THEM. >> RIGHT NOW WE CAN ALL DO CONTRACTS THAT RUN JANUARY 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31.

WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT AS A COUNCIL, TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN WE DO CONTRACTS AND MAY BE WILLING WANT A SIX MONTH CONTRACT. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS MORE POWER. THE COUNCIL HAS ABILITY TO PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT IN THE AGREEMENT.

I JUST THINK IF YOU TRUST IN NONPROFIT, AND A 501(C) THREE, ONE OF THE MAIN MISSIONS OF A 501(C) THREE IS TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON GOVERNMENT. AND SO, TO ME THIS IS DOING THAT. SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GOVERNMENT BE SO FOR INVOLVED THAT WE ARE NOT LESSENING THE BURDEN OF GOVERNMENT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN EMPLOYEE TO MANAGE THIS.

THINK FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE SHOULD TREAT THEM LIKE EVERY OTHER NONPROFIT. WHY THE SANDBOX ON THE -- WHO

ELSE IS USING THIS. >> IS NOT GETTING OFF THE DAY

TODAY? >> NO BECAUSE HIS APPEAR FOR COUNCIL. WE GET TO VOTE YES OR NOT.

>> IS NOT OUR JOB TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

>> IS OUR JOB TO APPROVE OR MAKE CHANGES AS WE SEE FIT.

THE DAY TODAY IS, THE DAY TODAY IS WE TOLD CITY MANAGER WHAT HIS EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE WEARING WHEN THEY COME AGAIN TO PROVE THE POSITIONS. WE APPROVE WHO WILL USE THE FACILITIES AND WHAT RATES WILL CHARGE THEM.

OTHERWISE, -- >> BACK TO COMIC YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO BY MOTION, AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER SIGN AN EXTENSION FOR 30 DAYS OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT.

AND THEN HAVE THE CITY MANAGER BRING BACK CONTRACTS.

FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

>> BUT THAT DOESN'T FIX THEM BEING ABLE TO REGISTER PEOPLE.

ND THEY PROBABLY NEED TO REGISTER.

>> CAN THEY REGISTER? >> NO BECAUSE HE WON'T HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THE ACTUAL SEASON STILL.

YOU'RE JUST EXTENDING IT 30 DAYS WAS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM. I SAY WE PROVE THIS AS IT IS AND DO THE AGENDA AND CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, THEN COME BACK AND IF WE WANT AN AMENDED CONTRACT WITH THEM, THEY WILL PROBABLY BE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE NOT AS ONEROUS, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T APPROVE THIS ONE AS LONG AS THERE'S LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT IS MUTUAL BENEFICIAL. IF THEY WANT TO ACCEPT A NEW COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE UNDER THE YOKE OF THIS ONEROUS CONTRACT, THEN LET THEM BE. I THINK THEY WOULD SAY YES WILL ACCEPT ANYONE, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAVEN'T INTERRUPTED ANYTHING. I THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO GO.

>> I BASICALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIMPLIFY THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. BUT THEN WE HAVE, WHAT ORDINANCES DO HAVE TO CHANGE TO MAKE THIS WORK? AND THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

I'LL BE OKAY WITH APPROVING THIS, AND THEN, TRYING TO AMEND IT AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY. AND WE CAN SET A DATE ON THAT.

WE CAN SET A TIMELINE, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT THERE TO MAKE

SURE IT HAPPENS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE 9.2 AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR APPROVING 9.2 AS PRESENTED.

I WILL OFFER UP AN AMENDMENT. WE APPROVE IT WITH EXPIRATION

OF JULY 1. >> CAN WE DO THAT WITHOUT

CHANGING ORDINANCE FIRST? >> I DON'T MIND BREAKING THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I'M HOPING IT WILL CHANGE.

>> COMMUNICATIVE AUGUST 1 TWO SETS WHEN THE FIELDS CLOSE?

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BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL-STARS.

>> AUGUST 1. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> YES WITH AUGUST 1. >> ALL RIGHT, AMENDMENT TO THE

MOTION WITH CONTRACT EXPIRES -- >> FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

>> IS IT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? ARE YOU BOTH OKAY WITH IT?

>> IF DOTTIE FEELS WE CAN. >> WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO BE CONSISTENT.

>> WE LIKED ON THE NEXT COUNCIL ITEM.

THE CHANGE ORDINANCE. >> YOU WOULD BASICALLY SAY, CONTRACTS RUN ON THE CALENDAR YEAR UNLESS COUNCIL AUTHORIZES, KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR CONTRACTS ANYWAY.

>> ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO PROVE 9.2 WITH EXPIRATION OF AUGUST 1. ARE WE OKAY DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK AN AMENDED ORDINANCE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING?

ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> YES SIR.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.3. Consideration and possible action to authorize the City Manager to execute a contract with DigDug Construction, LLC for the concrete repair to the Cottonwood Trail in Creekside Park for $67,877.00 (Jeff White)]

NEXT, ITEM 9.3. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH DIGDUG CONSTRUCTION, LLC FORTHE CONCRETE REPAIR TO THE COTTONWOOD TRAIL IN CREEKSIDE PARK FOR $67,877.00 .

I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS. THERE ARE TWO REASONS.

ONE, I BELIEVE OUR SPEC ON SIDEWALKS IS INSUFFICIENT.

FOR THE PRAIRIE AND I GO TO THE PICTURES AS AN EXAMPLE ANY SIDEWALK BUILT CORRECTLY, WOULD NOT DO THAT.

AND THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THE BIDS TO UNDERSTAND WHY ONE GROUP OF $60,000 THROUGH GROUPS LIKE 100-5200 90,000. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF DETAIL WAS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH THE CHEAPEST CARS IN THE FIVE YEARS OF SIDEWALKS LOOK LIKE THAT AGAIN. HUTTO COMMUNITY PARK, WHEN HEATHER SIDEWALKS DONE, THEY ARE STILL CLEAN.

IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO AND THEY ARE READY SHIFTED AND CRACKED AND BROKEN UP. AND SO, I THINK WE NEED TO MEASURE IS A CITY, AS YOU PUT IN SIDEWALKS, WE ARE DOING IT CORRECTLY. I DON'T THINK WAITING --

>> TO YOUR POINT, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS 100 PERCENT ACCURATE. I AM PRETTY SURE THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT IS ALREADY IN THE AREA, DIGDUG, IS THAT CORRECT? AND I THINK MAYBE THAT IS.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT WOULD BE WHY WE CAME IN SO MUCH LOWER. QUICKLY DOING THE LAKESIDE ESTATES PROJECT. CRACK THAT WOULD BE WHY THEY CAME IN SO MUCH CHEAPER, THEY ARE ALREADY HERE.

PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED, EQUIPMENT IS ALREADY HERE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE ENTIRE REASON BUT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY ARE DOING WORK WITHIN THE CITY ALREADY AND WE HAVE APPROVE THEM TO DO WORK IN THE CITY.

I HOPE LAKESIDE SIDEWALKS DON'T GET MESSED UP BUT I SAY THAT THEY, I-DRIVE DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY EXPEDIENT, VERY EFFICIENT AND OBVIOUSLY, BRAND-NEW BUT THEY LOOK GREAT AND HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS PATCHED AND PUT BACK CORRECTLY AND THEY'VE DONE A

REALLY NICE PRODUCT FOR MERCY. >> A GOOD QUESTION.

ANOTHER THEY WERE THE SAME COMPANY DURING LAKESIDE ESTATES. IS THERE A CONCERN WITH QUALITY? I AM GUESSING THAT YOU WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE SPECS, HE WENT TO THE PROPOSALS AND THE BIDS. AND IT LOOKED NOT JUST AT THE COST BUT I'M GUESSING A LOOK AT WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING, HOW THEY WOULD BE BUILDING THEM AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT THESE ARE GOING TO JUST START CRACKING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS?

>> SURE, PART OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK WAS TO INCLUDE SIDEWALK DETAIL HAS BEEN APPROVED, THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REBAR TO BE USED. CERTAIN SAND AND CERTAIN DISTANCE. I'M NOT A SIDEWALK EXPERT THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE USE THE APPROVED SIDEWALK DETAIL FOR THIS PROJECT. AFTER THE BIDS WERE RECEIVED, INTERNAL PANEL MYSELF AND TWO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS REVIEWED THE BIDS. WENT THROUGH AND CHECK REFERENCES. AND THIS VENDOR, HAD EXCELLENT REFERENCES AND THEY DOING SIMILAR WORK IN LAKESIDE ESTATES AND THEY'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB THROUGHOUT THE

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PROJECT. >> AND SO, WAS IT FOR? THREE OR FOUR THAT BID. DID ALL OF THEM, WE GIVE THEM THE SPECS OF KIND OF WHAT WE WANTED AND THEY ALL SAID, WE WILL BUILD IT TO YOUR SPEC. AND SO, DIGDUG WASN'T PROPOSING CUTTING CORNERS OR DOING LESS SAND AND LESS COMPACTION.

SO, IF WE WENT WITH ONE OF THE HIGHER ONES, THEY WOULD'VE BUILT IT TO THE SAME SPECIFICATIONS.

>> YES SIR. >> WELL AND WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT SO THEY BID BASED ON THAT. I CAN NOT EXPLAIN WHY THEY BID THIS PRICE. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CHECKED AND LIKE I SAID HAVE EXCELLENT REFERENCES.

>> AND MY LAST QUESTION, IS THERE ANY KIND OF WARRANTY ON THE WORK?> TYPICALLY IT IS A ONE YEAR WARRANTY.

>> TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE. THE COTTONWOOD TRAIL, WAS IT BUILT TO THE SPECIFICATION THAT YOU ALREADY ASKED THEM TO DO? OR IS IT UPGRADED FROM WHEN THESE WERE INSTALLED? AND SECOND PART OF THAT BEFORE YOU ANSWER, OR IF IT WAS THE SAME, IS IT BECAUSE WE HAD THE 500 YEAR FLOOD EVENT WHEN THESE WENT UNDERWATER AND IT WENT, HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE ANOTHER 500 FLOOD EVENT BUT THESE WERE UNDERWATER FROM THAT 500 YEAR FLOOD EVENT. THAT IS WHY IT FAILED, NOT BECAUSE OF THE SPEC BEING WRONG.

THAT WAS KIND OF MY TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS.

>> THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THOSE 100 PERCENT BECAUSE THOSE ARE BEFORE MY TIME IN HUTTO.

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD, ARE SIDEWALK DETAILS BEFORE THE MUCH OTHERS.

WE ARE ASKING ALL VENDORS TO DO MORE THAN TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD

SEE IN OTHER CITIES. >> SINCE YOU SAID THAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN OTHER CITIES? BECAUSE TWO INCH BASE OF SAND, IS HARDLY ANYTHING. WHAT DO YOU SEE OTHER CITIES DO? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN SIDEWALKS BREAK THE WAY THAT THEY DO IN HUTTO.

WHAT IS THE STANDARD THE OTHER CITIES USE?

>> IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MINUTE I WILL SEE IF I CAN GET WAYNE.

WAYNE IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

AND MAYBE COULD FILL IN A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT OTHER CITIES DO VERSUS WHAT HOURS DOES. I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE

SPOT. >> WAYNE WATSON, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. CITY OF HUTTO STANDARD SPECIFICATION FOR SIDEWALKS MATCHES CITY OF LEANDER, CITY OF GEORGETOWN AND CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARDS.

>> TWO INCH SAND? >> YES SIR.

I MIGHT SAY THAT ON HOW THE SUBGRADES WHICH WE HAVE HERE IN HUTTO, YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO USE A SIX INCH TO EIGHT INCH LAYER OF SAND. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD CONSIDER CHANGING IF I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

>> 4 TO 6 INCHES IS NOT ALL SAND, SIDEWALKS DON'T MOVE WHETHER YOU FLOOD, PARK A UTILITY TRUCK ON THEM.

THEY DON'T MOVE IN THE ONLY PERSON, DEALING WITH THE

SIDEWALK >> LIKE THAT IS IF YOU TAKE A JACKHAMMER TO IT.

ACTUALLY, I'M GLAD JEFF WROTE YOU A BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I WOULD RATHER SPEND MORE MONEY AND DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. HEN TO KEEP COMING BACK AND DOING THIS BECAUSE TAXPAYER MONEY IS TOO VALUABLE TO ME.

>> THAT'S WAS GOING TO SAY. THE STATE IS THE LIST YOU SAID LEANDER, AUSTIN AND? GEORGETOWN? THOSE ALL WEST OF I 35. EAST OF I 35 YOU GET INTO CLAY AND I KNOW HOW IT SHIFTS BECAUSE MY WHOLE HOUSE SHIFTED.

>> IT IS TOUGH HERE. I MEAN WITH STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, AND STRUCTURES. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE FOR THIS. VERY LARGE TRANSFER THE ISSUE IS THAT IT CHANGES THE SEASONAL CHANGES AND MOISTURE.

RISES AND FALLS, UP AND DOWN. >> GO AHEAD.> RESTRICTS THAT LOOK LIKE THIS IN HUTTO. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN A LOT ABOUT OUR ROADS. NOT TO SAY THAT THIS ISN'T A SAFETY HAZARD FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THIS TRAIL.

WE CAME HOME AFTER THANKSGIVING IN OUR DOOR DIDN'T SHUT.HAT IS HOW MUCH SHIFTING HAPPENED. WE HAD TO JIMMY THE LITTLE YOU KNOW, LATCH, TO BE ABLE TO SHUT THE DOOR BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SHIFTING AND I GET THAT AND I DO RESPECT THAT THINGS NEED TO BE BUILT DIFFERENTLY ON THE SOIL.

I JUST HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM. YOU KNOW AND EMERGING INTO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE SOME FINANCIAL SECURITY AND WE HAVE SOME STABILITY. TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS ON WHAT WE HAVE -- LOOKING THE WAY IT DOES.

I MEAN THAT IS WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

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I AM THINKING ABOUT, JUDICIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

DO WE SPEND $70,000 ON THIS TRAIL, THE SIDEWALKS WHEN WE HAVE ROADS THAT ARE CAUSING DAMAGE TO VEHICLES.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY THAT PERSONALLY, BUT I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE NEED TO PUT SIDEWALKS WHERE SIDEWALKS NEED TO BE. I'M JUST GLAD THAT THERE IS A TRAIL. I MEAN HONESTY, WE DRIVE DOWN

THE ROADS. >> THIS IS NOT A ROAD FUND YOU

CAN SPEND THIS MORNING ROADS. >> LET'S UPGRADE OUR PARKS.

>> IS THIS MORNING COMING FROM PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT?

OR GENERAL FUND? >> THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE MOST RECENT BUDGET. THE GENERAL FUND.

>> OKAY.> I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL FEBRUARY 16. 2023, AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO COME UP WITH A SIDEWALKS BACK THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE RESILIENT.

IT MAY NOT EVEN BE CONCRETE COULD BE CRUSHED STONE OR SOMETHING THAT THESE BUT TO BRING BACK A COUPLE OF OPTIONS,

>> TO BE FAIR THIS IS JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE FIXED FOR SAFETY AND LIABILITY ISSUES.

I THINK IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAILS MASTER PLAN COMING TO US. YOU KNOW ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE CITY IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET CAUGHT UP ON.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY WHERE IT WILL FIT IN.

WE DO NEED TO BETTER OUR STANDARDS.

AND RIGHT NOW, PUTTING YOU KNOW, SLAPPING A BAND-AID ON THE WOUND, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE IS AN OVERALL PICTURE BECAUSE IF WE DO IMPLEMENT BETTER STANDARDS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE CITY, AND WE HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE 3.5 MILES, RIGHT? OF THE TRAIL.

>> THE EXISTING, YES AND NO TO THAT ONE.

I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL FEBRUARY 16.

AT THE DIRECTION OF STAFF, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I HAD ONE QUESTION. >> CAN JEFF ANSWER?

>> YES AND NO ANSWER? >> REMINDER THE QUESTION.

>> , SLAPPING THE BAND-AID ON IT AND FIXING IT.

MAYBE IN FEBRUARY WE COULD BETTER STANDARDS FOR THE FUTURE

MASTER PLAN. >> THIS TRAIL RUNS BASICALLWEL A RUNS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL GIVE OR TAKE.

CONNECT THROUGH DIFFERENT AREAS.

THIS PORTION OF IT IS BETWEEN FRONT STREET AND CARL STERN.

NOT THE WHOLE SECTION JUST THE PORTIONS THAT ARE DONE PROPERLY. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PICTURES, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY USE THE SIDEWALK STANDARD WE ADHERE TO NOW. IT WAS PROBABLY DONE BEFORE THAT WAS ADOPTED. BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL FROM THE BREAKING, EVEN THE PARTIAL REPAIRS THAT WE MADE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO KEEP WITH WEAR AND TEAR OF THE TRAIL AS WELL AS THE FOUNDATION. THIS IS JUST REPLACE A PORTION OF THE WORST PARTS OF THE TRAIL THAT ARE CRACKING AND BECOMING

POTENTIAL HAZARDS. >> MAYOR, MAY I?

>> YES, SIR. >> ANOTHER THING THAT COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER DOING, YOU COULD AWARD THE CONTRACT, THEN DIRECT STAFF TO GO AND REQUEST THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE SPECS THAT YOU WANT. THIS COMPANY IS NOT GOING TO BE SCARY WAIVER ANYTHING WE MAY COME UP WITH WE WANT.

IF YOU AWARD IT AND THEN THE CHANGE ORDER COMES BACK OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO BID ANYWAY.

IF WE CHANGE THE SPEC BECAUSE WE CHANGE THIS BACK, OUTSIDE OF THE CHANGE ORDER THEN IT CHANGES THE BID STATUS FOR EVERYONE. BASICALLY, YOU BE THROWING OUT THE ENTIRE LIST AND START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.

IF YOU AWARD IT AND THEN GO ASK FOR CHANGE ORDER TO THE NEW SPEC, IN MY UNDERSTANDING CAN DO THAT.

DOTTIE CAN WEIGH IN ON THE CHANGE ORDER PROCESS.

BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MOVE FORWARD AND ALLOW YOU TO GIVE THEM THE NEW SPEC FOR THEM TO TELL YOU WHAT THE NEW MATERIAL COST IS, AND THEN YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S HOW CHANGE ORDERS ARE TYPICALLY UTILIZED IN PROJECTS.

>> IC CHANGES HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

THEY ENCOUNTER SOMETHING THAT WAS UNEXPECTED, THEY COME BACK,

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WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ROCK YOU KNOW AT TWO FEET WE THOUGHT IT WAS FOUR FEET, WE HIT ROCK. THAT'S WHERE SHE CHANGE ORDERS, ME PERSONALLY, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING CONTRACT WOULD IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO DO CHANGE ORDER, I WOULD RATHER US JUST REBID IT AND WHO KNOWS YOU MIGHT HAVE THREE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WE WOULD LIKE A PIECE OF THIS BECAUSE FOR ALL AND A LITTLE SCARED THAT THE SPEC WAS SO INSUFFICIENT THEY FELT WOULD HAVE TO REPAIR THIS AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO CHARGE EXTRA BECAUSE WE ARE COMING BACK.

>> ON THAT NOTE THEN, I FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THEN THAT TABLING IT DOESN'T GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

YOU REJECT THE BID AND DO THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING YOU DETERMINED. WHEN SHE CHANGE THE SPEC CHANGES THE NUMBERS. IF YOU ARE DOING CHANGE ORDER, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK OUT TO BID ANYWAY.

>> MY THING AS A LIABILITY. BECAUSE IF WE PUNT ON THIS, SOMEONE RIDES A BIKE AND FALLS OFF, THEY ARE SUING THE CITY.

AND THEY WILL PROBABLY SAY, THIS MEETING COULD'VE STARTED AND HE DELAYED THREE MORE MONTHS.

NOW, IT IS NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THE WINTERTIME.

[INAUDIBLE] I THINK THE CHANGE ORDER WOULD BE THE BETTER WAY TO GO. IT MINIMIZES LIABILITY OF SOMEONE GETTING INJURED, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE DOING THE FIX RIGHT NOW AS A BANDIT, TO PREVENT INJURIES.

>> WHAT ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON? WE WILLINGLY KNOW AND TALK WHAT ROLES ARE DAMAGED THIS ONE

IN SEPTEMBER. >> WOMEN IN THE BUDGET?-- WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET? I DIDN'T SEE PICTURES LIKE THIS

ON THE LAKESIDE SIDEWALKS. >> WHY IS IT FOR -- INSUFFICIENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT NOT THE PARK? AFTER LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT THE SAND WAS OUT OF NOWHERE EVEN HAD THIS MUCH. AS MANY TIMES AS THE LAKESIDE SIDEWALKS HAVE COME UP OVER THE YEARS, I DON'T BELIEVE EVER HAD THIS MUCH OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SIDEWALK ITSELF EVER.

>> MAYBE I'M NOT EXPECTING MORE UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT THE SPEC IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT BID, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. ALL WE KNOW THEY ARE DOING FOUR INCHES AT BASE WITH A TWO INCH SAND ON TOP.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL EWART DIVERTING FROM THE AGENDA

TOPIC. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND

SECOND, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> I'M LEANING TOWARDS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAID. I LIKE TO GET THIS GOING AS SOON AS I CAN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE REBID PROCESS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, 50 PERCENT MORE, THEY ARE STILL CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID IT HAS TO BE -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ANYWAY.

IT'S ALLOCABLE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.

>> YOU LEANING TOWARDS -- >> I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR SPECS, AND A CHANGE ORDER, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE

PROBLEM IS. >> OKAY I DIDN'T HEAR THAT

PART BEFORE. >> I WAS TRYING TO JUMP IN.

>> THANK YOU. THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.> THIS IS 1/10 OF A MILE. I THINK WHEN THEY DO THE MATH WE WERE SAME 2/10 OF A MILE. THE PIECES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIXING. I DON'T THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE.

YES, WE NEED TO UP OUR STANDARDS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE FOR DOING THAT FOR THESE PIECES. ALONG THE WHOLE PATH.

>> YOU'RE SAYING, GET THIS FIXED AND THEN AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE THE WHOLE TRAIL WITH THE NEW SPEC.

MAYOR, COUNCIL. I HAVE SEEN, MAYBE IT WASN'T DONE THE RIGHT WAY, BUT I'VE SEEN THE SPECIFICATIONS CHANGE AFTER THE BIDS GO OUT. I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.

THERE IS A CAP. IF YOU EXCEED THAT YOU FORCED TO GO BACK OUT TO BID BECAUSE NOW YOU DEVIATED TOO FAR FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL SPECS WERE.VIRGIL SUSPECT A THREE ROOM BUILDING, AND YOU

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HAVE A BID AND TAKE KIDDING WE WANT A 15 ROOM BUILDING.

THAT NUMBER WOULD BE SO MUCH LARGER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK OUT TO BID. I'VE SEEN SPECS CHANGE I'VE SEEN MATERIAL CHOICES CHANGE I'VE SEEN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AFTER YOU GOT THE BIDS AND IN THE CITIES LIKE WELL ACTUALLY, JUST WILL HAPPEN HERE. WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD WANT ADDITIONAL SUB BASE FOR THE SIDEWALKS.

WE WILL LOOK AT AMENDING SPECIFICATIONS, WHAT WOULD IT COST TO GO FROM TWO INCHES TO SIX INCHES OF SAND? AND THEN ASKED THE CONTRACTOR THAT TO GIVE YOUR NUMBER AND IF THE NUMBERS TOO BIG WE GO BACK OUT TO BID.

IT IS NOT TOO BIG THEN WE DON'T.

I'M BEING A LITTLE COY ON PURPOSE.

I'M NOT SAYING OUT LOUD EXACTLY WHERE THE CUTOFFS ARE SO THE NUMBERS DON'T END UP EXACTLY THAT.

>> YOU CAN SURPRISE ME IF THIS GOT TABLED AND BRING IT BACK IN

TWO WEEKS. >> THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ABOUT CHANGE ORDERS AND CHANGES IN PLANS OR SPECS NECESSARY AFTER THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CONTRACTORS BEGIN OR NECESSARY TO DECREASE OR INCREASE QUANTITY OF WORK TO BE PERFORMED.

I GUESS THAT, I WOULD YIELD TO THAT.

INTERPRETATION. >> WE STILL HAVE YOUR MOTION

ON THE TABLE. >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. IS THIS PARK MONEY OR GENERAL

FUND MONEY? >> ABLY STAFF ANSWERED IT WAS

BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND. >> NO WONDER THE FISCAL NOTES IT SAYS GENERAL FUND PARKS AND REC.

PARKS AND REC GENERAL FUND. >> I DIDN'T READ THAT.

I READ GENERAL FUND, PARKS AND REC.

>> YOU HAVE GENERAL FUND, THEN THAT WOULD BE EVERYTHING THAT IS TAXED SUPPORTED. IF IT SAID THE FUND WAS THE PARKS IMPROVEMENT FUND, THEN IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FROM THOSE UNDER DEVELOPER DOLLARS PRODIGIOUS COMMISSION PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION INSIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S WHAT

IT SOUNDED TO ME. >> IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT THIS MORNING SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU HAVE TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE

PARKS. >> CORRECT.

>> BUT I GUESS WHERE MY MIND GOES, AND LACK OF INVESTMENT NOW PARKS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE

TO PUT THE MONEY AT THIS TIME? >> GIVEN MY -- I'D RATHER BE BUILDING THINGS BUT WHENEVER YOU HAVE --

>> LIGHTS IN THE BATHROOM.> WE HAVE CRACKED SIDEWALKS OR TRIPPING HAZARDS, IT IS WISE, AND THIS IS A TRAIL MUCH AS A SIDEWALK. WE KEEP CALLING IT A SIDEWALK BUT REALLY, IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR RECREATION.

IT IS THE MAJOR RECREATION TRAIL NORTH-SOUTH IN THIS TOWN, THAT CONNECTS THE NORTH PART OF 79 AND SOUTH PART OF 79.

>> ALMOST ALL THE MAJOR 5K OR LARGER RUNS USE THIS TRAIL.

SO, WHATEVER THEY DO THE CHRIS KELLY 5K, THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE, A LOT OF THE LADIES USE A PARTICULAR TRAIL AND HAVE IT, VETERAN'S DAY. THIS IS KIND OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR A LOT OF THOSE 5K AND FUNDRAISERS.

ONLY DO 5K MAYBE THEY DO 10. BUT I TOO FIVE!

SO I KNOW ABOUT THOSE. >> AND WHO LIVE SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACK, THIS IS HOW WE GET TO FRITZ PARK.

THE ENTIRE GLENWOOD, LEGENDS OF HUTTO AND SOUTH, THIS IS THE WAY YOU GET TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

>> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON STAFF, APPRECIATE THE MAYOR BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I NEVER AM GOING TO SHY AWAY FROM LOOKING AT INCREASED SPECIFICATIONS.

THAT ARE GOING TO DELIVER A BETTER PRODUCT.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS IF BY LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE CRACKS, IT EVEN HAS, THE ORIGINAL TRAIL HAS REBAR IN IT AT ALL BECAUSE IT DOESN'T APPEAR.

BUT I'VE NEVER CUT IT OPEN TO LOOK.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP AND WAS ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SPECIFICATIONS.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL SIDEWALKS AND ALL THE CITY AS OF TODAY.

SO, THEY MET HERE. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, WITH CONCERN TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT BEEFING UP OUR SIDEWALK SPECS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR OUR HIGH PI -- BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LIMESTONE AS DULY NOTED ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35.

FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF COUNCIL DOES END UP APPROVING THIS, THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND ASK THEM TO GIVE US A CHANGE ORDER QUOTE FOR INCREASINGLY DEPTH OF THE FOOTING, TO WHATEVER IT IS THE ENGINEERING STAFF DECIDES IS

APPROPRIATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS. >> AND IS A LIMIT OF 25 PERCENT OF THE CONTRACT PRICE. YOU CAN IN YOUR MOTION, ALLOW THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER IF IT'S WITHIN THE 25 PERCENT.

>> WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T WANT TO SIT PUBLICLY.

>> MOST OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT DO THIS KNOW THAT.

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>> IT IN THE STATE LAW. >> THEY KNOW.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S A CHANGE ORDER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TABLE IN?

>> JUST ONE MORE. WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF THIS SIDEWALK? HOW LONG IS IT?

>> OVERALL? >> OVER THE LINK.

>> THE OVERALL LENGTH RUNS FROM, OVERALL LENGTH OF REPAIR IS TWO SECTIONS, THERE IS A SECTION OF 490 FEET FROM FRONT STREET TO THE CREEKSIDE PARK ENTRANCE, THEN THERE IS 190 FEET FROM THE RESTROOM AT CREEKSIDE, TO CALL STERN.

THERE'S PORTIONS OF THAT THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

THE PRIMARY SECTION IS BETWEEN THE PARK AND FRONT STREET.

AND THAT IS AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SECTION, THE SECTION PASS

CREEKSIDE IS 10 FEET WIDE. >> DO YOU KNOW IF THOSE ARE IN A FLOODPLAIN NOW? BECAUSE THE FLOODPLAINS OF

CHANGE RECENTLY. >> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE MAPS TO VERIFY. I WOULD ASSUME.

>> I KNOW THE FLOODING IS A FACT IF THEY'RE IN A FLOODPLAIN IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY THEY WILL FLOOD MORE OFTEN IN THE FUTURE. INCREASE IN THE SPECS REALLY

SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED. >> I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT IS WHATEVER WE DO THE MASTER PLANNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AS FOR RIGHT NOW, WITH THE SAFETY HAZARDS AND IN THE SPRINGTIME IS ONE A LOT OF THOSE 5K START KICKING OFF IN MARCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND TO HAVE IT FIXED IN TIME FOR THAT, IS IT THE BEST FIX POSSIBLE? NO, AND WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AS WE ARE AWARE THAT THROUGH THE REST OF THE CITY. FOR THAT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF

TABLING THIS. >> HOW LONG, MOST OF TIME ON THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? IF WE ARE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT WITH THE SPECS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> LET ME CHECK, HANG ON ONE SECOND.

>> LAKESIDE ESTATES, THEY ARE JAMMED.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON, WE WOULD DO A TENTATIVE KICKOFF TOMORROW DECEMBER 16 IF APPROVED TONIGHT. THEY INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON JANUARY 4, PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 32 DAYS, IT WILL BE IDEALLY DONE FEBRUARY 17 IS THE PROJECT TIMELINE. GIVE OR TAKE COLD WEATHER AND RAINOUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD CAUSE DELAYS.

>> 30 DAY CONSTRUCTION. >> 32 WORKING DAYS.

WITH NO CHANGE IN SPECS. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION FAILS. 2-5.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9.3 AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT WITH DIGDUG CONSTRUCTION ANDAUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER , TO ISSUE A CHANGE ORDER WITH DIGDUG, TO INCREASE THE BASE TO A LEVEL THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

>> MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER

THORNTON. >> IF IT COMES IN THE CHANGE ORDER ALLOWED BY STATE LAW, DO YOU WANT TO AUTHORIZE A CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE IT, RATHER THAN HAVE TO BRING IT BACK?

>> YES, I CAN ADD THAT. IF THE CHANGE ORDER FALLS WITHIN WHAT IS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW TO OPERATE, THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THAT.> THAT IS OKAY WITH ME.

>> I WOULD RATHER MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT THEN DO IT CHEAP AND COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND DO IT AGAIN.

>> I'M JUST NOT WILLING TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON, BECAUSE THIS IS LITERALLY PATCHING THE TRAIL.

SO, I WOULD RATHER SPEND MORE MONEY IN THE LONG TERM, WHENEVER WE HAVE A BIGGER PICTURE OF THIS BECAUSE THIS IS FIXING 1/10 OF A MILE OF PIECES, NOT THE WHOLE THING, BUT PIECES, THAT ARE DAMAGED AND SO, I AM NOT WILLING TO INCREASE THIS SPEC FOR THOSE PIECES WHEN THE WHOLE TRAIL IS

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NOT GOING TO BE IN THE SAME STANDARDS.

AS THOSE PIECES. >> YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR

INCREASING THE SPEC? >> I AM IN FAVOR OF INCREASING THE SPEC, BUT NOT WILLING TO SPEND MORE TO UP THE SPEC BECAUSE IF YOU DO INCREASE THE SPEC, YOU WILL SPEND MORE

MONEY. >> RIGHT SO IN THIS SECTION YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF INCREASING THE SPEC ON THE

SECTION? >> SHE SAYS UNTIL THEY DO A REBUILD OF THE TRAIL. THAT'S WHEN WE DO IT.

>> AND I WILL TELL YOU MY THINKING ON IT.

YOU REPAIR THESE PARTS AND DO IT RIGHT.

THEN WHEN THE OTHER PARTS ARE FAILING, REPAIR THOSE RIGHT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, YOU DON'T REPAIR OR REPLACE EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

HE REPLACE THESE, DO THEM RIGHT AND WHEN THE OTHER PARTS START TO FAIL, IN A YEAR OR SO THEN YOU DO THOSE RIGHT AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP EVERYTHING, YOU JUST TEAR UP WHAT'S FAILING IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHY KIND OF -- AND TO ADD ON, THE EVIDENCE OF SOME OF THE CRACKS, THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF REBAR STICKING OUT ANY OF THE CRACKS.

IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT'S THERE DOESN'T EVEN MEET THE CURRENT STANDARD. SO WE ARE UPGRADING A LITTLE BIT, EVEN IF WE DO THAT, WE MIGHT AS WELL UPGRADE TO THE CORRECT STANDARD.> MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, BUT DIRECTED CITY MANAGER TO GET A CHANGE ORDER TO INCREASE THE SPEC OF WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BUT THEN ADDED 25 PERCENT POTENTIAL INCREASE IN THE BID, ABLE TO BE DONE BY THE CITY MANAGER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.2. Conduct a public hearing and consider the adoption of Ordinance No. O-2022-060 amending Section 10.609, Parkland and open space dedication, of the Hutto Unified Development Code to update the minimum standards and fees related to parkland and open space dedication requirements (Jeff White)]

BRING LIST ITEM 10.1. >> MAYOR, I LIKE TO MOVE 10.2 UP IF POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE ARE TWO CHAIRMAN HERE FROM PARKS AND P&Z. ALSO, WE'LL KEEP JEFF IN THE

HOT SEAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS. >> NONE FOR ME.

>> ITEM 10.2. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. O-2022-060 AMENDING SECTION 10.609, PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATION, OF THE HUTTO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENTCODE TO UPDATE THE MINIMUM STANDARDS AND FEES RELATED TO PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATION

REQUIREMENTS . >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JEFF WHITE, DIRECTOR PARKS AND RECREATION. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU, IS TO REVISIT OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES.

THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THE CITY HAS ENOUGH PARKLAND TO MEET RECREATION NEEDS OF RESIDENTS, THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD WANTED TO BRING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IN ALIGNMENT WITH MARKET CONDITIONS AND GROWTH PATTERNS.

THE THIS WAS ENACTED IN 1988 AND ARAIZA 1982 IN THE 1997.

T'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE LOOKED AT IT.

-- WHAT OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES AND REQUIREMENTS.

THERE ARE THREE ELEMENTS. IT MUST HAVE A LAND DONATION BASED ON DRAWINGS MUST PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF AND PAY PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE, THE GOAL IS TO QUIT OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE PARK SYSTEM AND BETTER SERVE THE GROWING POPULATION AND HUTTO. WE WORKED WITH DOTTIE AND HER TEAM, TO REVISE THIS CURRENT LANGUAGE, IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 3 TO 6 MONTH PROCESS, AND THIS IS THE NEW LANGUAGE WE HAVE PROPOSED. 10.6 9. HOW DO YOU SAY THAT? APPLICABILITY. THE MAJOR CHANGE HERE WAS ADDED THE MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENT, THE MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2020 AND IS OUR GUIDING TOOL FOR HUTTO PARKS AND RECREATION AND CONTAINS FUTURE TRAILS, MAPS, RECOGNITIONS FOR NEW PARKS AND RENOVATIONS TO EXISTING PARKS.

10.609.4.1 PARKLAND DEDICATION PLAN TO REMOVE THE CREDIT FOR

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PRIVATE PARKS, REMOVES SLOPE AND FLOODPLAIN POSSIBILITIES, AND CREDIT PARKLAND DEDICATION PLAN, WHICH HAS THREE COMPONENTS. ONE IS A PROPOSED PARKING SHOULD BE 15 ACRE MINIMUM, CONFORMING TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND APPROVED BY STAFF AND PARK ADVISORY BOARD.

WE LANDED ON THE 15 ACRE BASED ON TWO SCENARIOS, OR TWO CRITERIA. ONE IS, THIS FEEDBACK FROM THE 2020 ADOPTED PARKS MASTER PLAN, WHAT TYPE OF PARK SIZES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? YOU CAN SEE THAT 15 ACRES AND MORE WAS HIGHLY REQUESTED. THE OTHER REASON IS, BASED ON NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION, RECOMMEND WE HAVE 9.9 ACRES OF PARKLAND FOR 1000 RESIDENTS BASED ON POPULATION.

WE NEED 305 ACRES AND CURRENTLY HAVE 165, GIVE OR TAKE AND WE

ARE SHORT 140 ACRES. >> I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS CHANGE IN 10.609 4.2 PERMIT THEM OVER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF PARKLAND PER DWELLING UNIT. GIVES A DEFINITION OF WHAT A DWELLING UNIT IS. 15 ACRES IS 653,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT EQUATES TO 653 DWELLINGS.

ANYTHING ABOVE 653 DWELLINGS, WOULD HAVE TO EXCEED IN ITS PLAN, 15 ACRES. I LIVE IN HUTTO HIGHLANDS, IT HAS 747 DWELLINGS, SO, THEY WOULD EQUATE TO 17.14 ACRES WOULD BE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

LAND ELIGIBILITY. WE ADDED STAFF AND PROCLAMATION BOARD HAS A FINAL DECISION RELATED ON THE ACCEPTANCE, THE CURRENTLY SAYS THAT THEY JUST MUST APPROVE, KIND OF GAVE PARK ADVISORY BOARD MORE SAY IN WHAT LAND THEY WILL TAKE.

WE ALSO ADDED UNDER THIS SECTION, WHAT LAND WE WILL CONDITIONALLY ACCEPT WHICH IS RETENTION PONDS, DRAINAGE WAYS, PRIVATE GOLF COURSES, PRIVATE COMMUNITIES COMMUNITY CENTERS AND GOLF COURSES COUNTRY CLUBS AND SIMILAR.

USABILITY, IN THIS SECTION, WE GIVE THE OPTION FOR US TO ACCEPT FLOODPLAIN. IN THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PLAN. OTHERWISE, THE CURRENT ONE CORNERED US INTO HAVING TO ACCEPT 50 PERCENT FLOODPLAIN WITHOUT -- NOW WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT ACCEPTING IT OR ACCEPTING IT. 10.609, IMPROVEMENTS BY SIGHT.

TWO ADDED CHANGES HERE, ALL BRIDGES MUST BE APPROVED BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. ALL ACCESS POINTS MUST COMPLY WITH STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT.

10.609 IS PARK IMPROVEMENT FUNDS.

FUNDS SHALL BE COLLECTED OR FUNDS COLLECTED SHALL ONLY BE USED FOR PARK IMPROVEMENT AND ACQUISITION.

AND PROHIBITING FUNDS TO BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING PUBLIC PARKS OR FACILITIES. STAFF IS SEEKING APPROVAL ON THIS ITEM HAS BEEN BEFORE THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD FOUR TIMES, PLANNING AND ZONING TWICE.

BOTH HAVE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OUR PARKS CHAIR, PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIR HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> IT'S OKAY TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.

HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL.

>> I THINK IT WAS A PART OF IT WHENEVER IT WAS PRESENTED TO P&Z. A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK.

I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE AT LEAST FOR ME, NOT AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTING PARKS IN THE FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE THAT IS OFTEN TIMES WHAT THEY IMMEDIATELY OFFER UP.

WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THIS IS PARKLAND WHEN REALLY IT IS FLOODPLAIN, AND HAS NO MONETARY VALUE.

IN ESSENCE, THEY WERE GIVING US THINGS WE COULDN'T TURN INTO FIELDS OR REALLY DO MUCH WITH BECAUSE, THAT IS ALWAYS WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DONATE, FLOODPLAIN.

SO, I LIKE THAT THIS FIRST OF ALL, GIVES US MORE PARKLAND, BUT ALSO ACTUAL USABLE PARKLAND THE ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BRING MORE OF A BENEFIT.VERALL, I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH IT AND THOSE WERE KIND OF THE TWO BIG PLUS POINTS FOR ME.

>> MY ONLY CONCERN IS, WE GET ALL THESE FEES IN LIEU OF, WE

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ARE NOT ACTUALLY BUYING PARKLAND.

SO WHERE'S THE TEETH THAT GETS US ACTUAL PARKLAND? AND AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND LAND IS MORE SCARCE, THE COST IS GOING TO ALWAYS CHANGE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

TO BUY LAND IF IT IS NOT DEDICATED FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

SO, THAT IS MY ONLY KIND OF CONCERN BECAUSE BEFORE, WILL ALLOW THE FEE IN LIEU OF AND SOME INDUSTRIAL SITUATIONS BUT NOT WITH DEVELOPERS. SO, THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN

ABOUT THIS. >> I FEEL IT WHENEVER SORT PRESENTED THAT I FORGET TO BREAK DOWN, THE NUMBERS BUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING THE IN LIEU OF, WAS REALLY SMALL. AM I REMEMBERING THAT

CORRECTLY? >> IT DEPENDS ON THE SUBDIVISION AND HOW THE LAYOUT IS.

IT DEPENDS IF THEY HAVE PROPERTY THAT THEY CHOOSE TO GIVE US OR THEY JUST PAY THE FEES.

SOMETIMES THEY JUST PAY THE FEES BECAUSE THEY WOULD RATHER

MAXIMIZE THE SPACE THEY HAVE. >> I REMEMBER THERE BEING A GRAPH OR SOMETHING SHOWING THAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE

NUMBERS ARE NOW. >> THUS THE TOPIC.

WE EXPECT 1000 SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING.

THE FEE IN LIEU OF HIS $800 FOR SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.

THAT WORKS OUT TO $0.80 A SQUARE FOOT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE CAN GET LAND FOR $0.80 A SQUARE FOOT RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD BE USED FOR PARKS.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF TOUCH ON

THAT. >> THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS COMPONENT, COUNCILMEMBER THORTON.

THE FEE ANALYSIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO THIS BODY IN EARLY 2023 WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CONSULTANTS AND UP-TO-DATE MEMO

TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. >> SO THAT IS GOING UP.

CLICK FOR CISCO BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEY HAVE A FORMULA USED FROM TEXAS A&M KIND OF A GODFATHER OF PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT AND CREATIVE FORMULA THAT IS STANDARDIZED THAT MOST PEOPLE USE AND REFER TO.HE BIG PORTION OF THAT IS WHAT THE CURRENT PRICES ARE OF LAND.

AND SO, WE ARE WAITING ON THE ANALYSIS TO COME BACK BUT IT IS SUPPOSED BE BACK BY THE END OF THIS MONTH WERE EARLY JANUARY.

WE WILL BRING IT BACK AS A FEE SCHEDULE CHANGE.

IDEALLY IN LATE JANUARY AND EARLY FEBRUARY.

THAT KIND OF GIVES SOME TEETH TO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING TO ADOPT

TODAY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THEN DO WE WAIT ON THIS AND TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT SCHEDULE?

>> I DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON WHETHER IT IS SOME MONEY, NO MONEY. EITHER WAY IT'S EXTRA PARKLAND.

UNTIL 2023, THUS POTENTIALLY A LOT OF LOST REVENUE OR WE DO NOTHING THEN IT IS LOST REVENUE AND LOST PARKLANDS.

THAT WOULD BE A BIG NO-NO IN MY OPINION.

>> WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WAIT? WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN SOMETHING TO DO IT RIGHT AND NOW WE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT, WAITING WHEN THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WILL CHANGE IS HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE.

FOR ME, 1000 HOMES, HOW MANY ACRES? IF I WAS GOING THOUSAND HOMES HOW MANY WOULD HAVE TO DONATE

TO PARKLAND? >> GIVE OR TAKE 20.

CHRIS CAN GO BACK TO THE MAP? >> YES SIR.

>> I DON'T HAVE A CAT LITTER IN FRONT OF ME BUT IF THE NUMBER OF DWELLINGS, TIMES 1000 SQUARE FEET, DIVIDE THAT BY 4000 SORRY, 42,560, WHICH IS NUMBER SQUARE FEET IN ONE ACRE.

IMAGINE 747 HOMES WITH 17.14 COUNCIL.

>> DIVIDE BY -- OR PAY $800,000 TO GET OUT OF IT.

>> CURRENTLY. >> THEY GO UP AND THEY MAY LOWER IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

I'VE GOT THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAD DONE A COMPLETE TERRIBLE JOB OF OUR PARKS, TO THIS DATE.

I APPRECIATE WE'RE SHORT ON ACREAGE.

IT'S LIKE I TOLD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE MORE POLICE IF YOU ARE GOING TO PAY THE ONES WE HAVE CORRECTED.

I WANT TO SAY TAKE ON A BUNCH OF PARKLAND IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT. I-- WE'VE KNOWN JUMPING UP AND DOWN OUR PARKS LOOK GREAT. I DO QUESTION, WHAT IS PARKS IMPROVEMENTS AND ACQUISITIONS ACCOUNT? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT AND I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS

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IN THAT. >> IS A PARKLAND DEDICATION

FUND. >> I DON'T EVER REMEMBER

SEEING THAT. >> EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, JUST AUTHORIZED US TO SPEND $600,000 FROM THE FUND.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS CALLED THAT.

I'M TRYING TO IDENTIFY WITH THE NAME OF THE FUND IS BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING IN THE BUDGET.

WE DID AUTHORIZE MONEY SPENT OUT OF AN ACCOUNT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PEOPLE ARE PUTTING MONEY INTO, WHEN IT SAYS, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF CO-MINGLING FUNDS.

I'M IN HERE SAYS THE MONEY HAS TO GO FOR PARKLAND ACQUISITION.

WHAT I DON'T WANT IS SOMEONE JUST TAKING CHECKS AND DROPPING INTO AN ACCOUNT. THEN SOMEONE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT LATER ON, HOW MUCH IS THERE FOR PARKLAND AND THIS.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE COLLECTED AT THIS POINT.HRIS IS ACQUISITION OR IMPROVEMENT TO EXISTING PARKS.

>> THE ACCOUNT THEY HAVE IN HERE IS PARKS IMPROVEMENTS AND ACQUISITION ACCOUNT. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT

ACCOUNT. >> YOU CAN CHANGE IT TO WHATEVER THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT IS.

IT IS FUND 40. I DON'T KNOW THE OFFICIAL TITLE IS BUT IS THE SAME ACCOUNT.> IS CODED 10 POINT 06.09.

>> I WANT TO GO TO THE BUDGET AND LOOK AT THE ACCOUNT AND SAY WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? ARE WE GOING TO CO-MINGLE? WHATEVER WE DO AND WHAT WE DECIDE, WE NEED TO START SEPARATING THINGS CORRECTLY BECAUSE, I SEE 2.4 MILLION SITTING IN A PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR, BECAUSE EACH YEAR CLOSING BALANCE. BUT EACH OR WE CAN'T EVER GET ANYBODY TO SPEND ANY MONEY. SO WHATEVER YOU DOING HERE FOR CHARGING PEOPLE MORE MONEY, THE LESS START PUTTING MONEY INTO THE PARKS. BECAUSE CASH DOES NOTHING FOR US. THIS IS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT TEETH ON BUYING PARKLAND.

I THINK WE ARE THE TEETH. AND SO, IF WE WANT TO BUY PARKLAND THAT WE NEED, SO WE NEED TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND WE NEED TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO GO FIND US 30 ACRES. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO GO OUT SHOPPING FOR LAND UNTIL WE AS A COUNSEL, INSTRUCT HIM TO DO IT, GIVEN THE MONEY TO DO IT.

IN MY OPINION, WE ARE THE TEETH.

AS SOON AS WE HAVE MORE LAND, THAT IS A MOTION.

>> I THINK WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE AWAY FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT. WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT, IS GIVING THE PARKS BOARD AND PARKS DEPARTMENT, A FIRM GUIDELINE ON WHAT WE CAN ACCEPT AND WHAT WE CANNOT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, WILL OUR HANDS ARE TIED LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT 50 PERCENT. OUR HANDS ARE TIED AS TO WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE. IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS I GOT THIS PARKLAND HERE, AND ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, WE CAN GIVE YOU THIS IN THE WEALTH.

WE HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY NO. THIS IS TELLING US THAT WE CAN SAY NO. AND THE REST OF IT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE CHARGING, $800 A HOUSE, $1500 HOUSE, $5000 HOUSE, WE WANT TO GO THE WAY OF AUSTIN, THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.> I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WE TALK ABOUT CHARGING, AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO DIRECT STAFF THINGS WE WANT. MAYBE THERE'S MAJORITY COUNSEL WHO DOESN'T WANT TO CHARGE DEVELOPERS MONEY.

MAYBE YOU WANT TO CHARGE DEVELOPERS MONEY AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO DO. I THINK IT ALL PLAYS INTO THE OVERALL PICTURE. THE IDEA IS JUST TO COLLECT MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS, THAT'S FINE.

BUT TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS POINT, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO HIT THE EASY BUTTON WRITE A CHECK.

MAYBE WANT SOMETHING ABOUT THINGS SO I THINK IT ALL REVOLVES AROUND MONEY. IF IT DIDN'T, EVERYBODY WOULD

DO ALL THE FUN STUFF. >> WILL STOP TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING ALWAYS GO BACK -- YOU CAN ASK 100 PEOPLE IN TOWN, DAY TO STAND UP IN FRONT -- WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW AND ASK -- FUND OF PEOPLE LIVING HUTTO, ASK WHETHER SPLASH PAD IS, THEY DON'T KNOW. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE LAND, IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE LAND FROM THE DEVELOPER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LAND IS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY IN HUTTO, NOT JUST THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOODS GOING INTO.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOT TO BE. >> SO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR THE RECORD, JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER.

I THINK YES, SO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, GOING ALL THE BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PAYMENT IN LIEU, THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR RULES ARE TOO EASY FOR DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO MEET. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE NOT DOING PAYMENT IN LIEU BECAUSE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE JUNK LAND AND AM

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GOING TO CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS, IS THE JUNK LAND, NOT ACTIVATED, IS NOT ABLE TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS IS JUST CARVE OFF A PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT IT MEETS MY REQUIREMENTS I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

THEN, THE CITY OWNS AND THE CITY HAS TO MAINTAIN AT THE COST OF THE TAXPAYERS. GENERALLY, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, AS TO LIKE THIS OF DEVELOPING AND BUILDING MORE AND MORE HOMES AND HAVING NEIGHBORHOODS COME IN TO DEVELOP DENSER AND SMALLER LOTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THEY HAVE TO PUT IN PARKS IN ORDER TO BE COMPETITIVE.

IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH AND SAY THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN WALK A COUPLE BLOCKS AND YOU ARE AT A LITTLE PARK.

THOSE PARKS NEED TO BE OWNED, MAINTAINED AND OPERATED BY THE POA OR HOA, SO ON AND SO FORTH, NOT GENERALLY THE CITY.

YOUR RULES YOU ESTABLISH THEN, GIVE THE PARKS BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, NO, TO SOME DONATIONS.

IT IS TOO SMALL OR THAT'S NOT ORIGINAL DRAW TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL DRAW THAT WOULD SATISFY THE COMMUNITIES DESIRE FOR PARKS.

AND INSTEAD, WILL TAKE THE FEE IN LEO, WHATEVER AND THAT BEING DOLLAR WISE AND WE WILL THEN IN TURN, USE IT TO INVEST IN THE PARKS THAT WE DO OWN, THAT WE DO WANT TO BENEFIT FROM, OR TUBERCULAR REGIONAL PART THAT WE REALLY NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE X, Y OR Z HAPPEN. I THINK THAT, I THINK WHERE THIS IS GOING, IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IT IS GIVING FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, TO BE MORE OF A PARTNER REGIONAL PARKS COMMENTS ARE JUST PASSING OFF THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE PARKS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T EVER, NOT ONE A SMALL PART. I CAN THINK OF A NUMBER OF REASONS YOU MIGHT. I.E. IT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE COTTONWOOD, CONCRETE TRAIL.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU MIGHT WANT THAT PARK, WHERE AS YOU WOULD WITH THE PARK THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEW YOU KNOW, DEVELOPER PROJECT, WHATEVER IT IS.

SO, I THINK, I THINK ALL THE POINTS, AS FAR AS THE NAMING OF THE ACCOUNT, IF OUR ACCOUNTING DOESN'T MATCH WITH THE ORDINANCE CALLS OUT, THAT'S AN EASY FIX ON OUR SIDE BUT YES, IT SHOULD BE CARVED OUT, SET ASIDE, SPECIAL USE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE CO-MINGLED OR ANY OF THE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. IT SHOULD BE A SPECIAL USE AND I'VE EVEN SEEN DOUBLE FEES, WHERE THERE IS A FEE SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKLAND AND BE SPECIFICALLY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO PARKLAND. THIS ONE IS ONLY FOR PURCHASING, AND THIS ONE IS FOR, WE WANT TO GO BUILD A TRAIL OR WANT TO GO DO X, Y OR Z YOU CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR THAT. GENERALLY, I THINK THE PROPOSAL IS UNDERSTANDING. IT SEEMS TO BE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IN ORDER TO GIVE THE PARKS BOARD MORE ABILITY TO SAY NO. AND TO PUSH TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THE COUNCIL DOES GET TO DECIDE.

>> AND IT ALSO GIVES US A PATH THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING.

BECAUSE PRIOR TO THIS, THEY ARE THE ONES ARE PROVING PLATS.

AND REALLY WASN'T ANY ACCOUNTABILITY, DID YOU GO TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD? OR ARE YOU JUST PAYING THE FEE? IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, AT LEAST NOW THEY KNOW, P&Z NOW KNOWS, THAT WE HAVE TO SEE THEM FIRST.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? GIVE US LAND? MONEY? A COMBINATION OF BOTH? THAT WAY, THEY ARE BASING THEIR DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL APPROVE THE PLAT BASED ON WHAT WE PRESENT TO THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE GIVING FOR LAND. AND THEN THAT WILL COME TO YOU, AND JAMES IS RIGHT, YOU ARE THE FINAL DETERMINATION.

YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT.

OR YOU CAN SAY, WE ARE, EVEN THOUGH WE SO WE DON'T WANT IT.

>> I WILL REEMPHASIZE THAT. >> THAT YOU NAME.

>> RICK HUDSON FOR THE RECORD, P&Z CHAIR.

PERRY IS RIGHT. DEVELOPERS HAVE TO GO TO PARKS, GET PARKS TO BUY OFF IF THE DONATED LAND.

IF THEY ARE NOT, BASICALLY THEY WOULD SKIP OVER PARKS, BUT THEY ARE PAYING A FEE. THAT FEE IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED WHEN YOU DO THE FEE ADJUSTMENT.

RIGHT NOW, IT IS $0.80 OR WHATEVER IT IS PER SQUARE FOOT.

WAY TO GO TO BINDING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WE CANNOT ADJUST THAT HERE. IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A FEE ADJUSTMENT. BUT, FOR THE FUTURE, FOR THE PATH FORWARD, NOT NEXT YEAR, WE'RE TALKING 10, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW. HAVE A PATH WORKING WITH PARKS, AND P&Z, TO GIVE TWO BIG BOARDS, RECOMMENDATIONS TO

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COUNSEL IN ONE PACKAGE. FOR THE BETTERMENT OF HUTTO.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT PERIOD THING IS, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT A YEAR UNTIL WE GET A PARKLAND FEE OF $0.80 WE WILL HAVE OTHER DEVELOPERS COMING IN OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T HAVE A BASELINE FEE WITHIN

JANUARY. >> BUT THE FEE RIGHT NOW, ISN'T BEING PAID BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVING PARKS GARBAGE.

>> THE MOMENT WE ADOPT THIS, THEY WILL START RIDING THE CHIEF DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GIVE THE LAND.

>> THAT'S MY POINT. >> MY IDEA, FIRST SESSION IN JANUARY LOOK AT FEE ADJUSTMENT. IF STAFF CAN HAVE THAT READY.

>> SORRY IF THAT WAS MISUNDERSTANDING.

THE CURRENT FEES ARE $800 FOR SINGLE-FAMILY AND COMBINED AND 675 MULTIFAMILY. THAT WAS THE LAST ADOPTED IN 2007. MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED.

WE ARE ASKING THEM TO VERIFY AND REESTABLISH WHAT A NEW FEE IS. AND SO, THAT SHOULD GET ADOPTED HERE AS PART OF THE FEE SCHEDULE AMENDMENT IN JANUARY.

OR FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR. 2023.

>> HE SAID BEFORE 2023, THAT COULD BE DECEMBER.

>> SORRY JANUARY. >> OKAY THAT MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. I KNOW FEES ARE COMING IN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. MY QUESTION IS, LIKE WE DID WATER WASTEWATER FEE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE, I WANT TO SEE AN ANALYSIS SHOWING WHAT OTHER CITIES, PARKLAND FEE IS.

SO THAT WE SEE WHERE WE ARE RELATIVE TO OUR SURROUNDING

CITIES. >> SURE.

LOGO. >> AS FAR BUT YOU STILL HAVE ON THERE TO SHOW HOW FAR OUT THAT IS.

>> YES. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, ARE THERE CURRENTLY FEES FOR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS?

>> THERE IS, I BELIEVE IT IS $1000.

>> SQUARE FOOTAGE? I GUESS.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IT IS PER DWELLING.

>> I GUESS, HOW -- >> IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD.

>> OR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SAY, WE WILL HAVE THE DATA CENTER. IS THERE GOING TO BE GREEN

SPACE OUT THERE? >> THE UDC DEFINES COMMERCIAL AS NONRESIDENTIAL USES OR NONPROFIT GOVERNMENT USES.

CURRENTLY ADOPTED FEE IS KIND OF UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS ON THE FEE SCHEDULE, IT SAYS $1000.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NEVER CHARGED EIGHT NONRESIDENTIAL

PARKLAND ABOUT ME. >> IT WILL BE GREAT TO ENCOURAGE CHARGING A COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THEN WE COULD COLLECT AND HAVE A GOOD BASELINE FEE, COLLECT ON THAT, THEY CAN OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS WITHOUT GIVING UP THEIR LAND.

AND THEN THE CITY COULD BENEFIT AND THAT WE KIND OF FLIPPING IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT MORE PARKLAND BUT WE CAN TAKE THE MONEY FROM THEM, AND THEN PURCHASE PLAN.

>> WE DID THAT FOR TAX MIX I THINK THEY WERE THE FIRST ONE.

IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE P&Z. ALSO SAYING WE WILL START GETTING A BUDGET WILL PAY THE MONEY.

THAT'S WHY WANTED TO MAKE SURE. QUESTION IS MAKE ME WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER AUDIT OF THE PARKLAND FEE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF BECAUSE THAT ACCOUNT HAD ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE COMMERCIALS.

>> WE NEED THE DOGMA BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE FUND THE BUYING OF THE LAND, THROUGH COMMERCIAL AND THEN TO THE RESIDENTIAL, IS THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE LAND OF THE

PARKS. >> OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.

>> THANKS. I HAD A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. A DEVELOPER BUILDS THEIR DEVELOPMENT, 1000 HOME DEVELOPER, THEY PUT IN A ORNAMENTED CENTER AND HAVE THEIR OWN HOA PARK MANAGED BY THE HOA.HAT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE ACREAGE, CORRECT?

>> NOT, DOES THE CURRENT ONE BUT NOT IN OUR PROPOSED ONE.

>> OKAY.O IT DOES COUNT CURRENTLY.

>> A FIVE PERCENT CREDIT. >> GRADE I WAS A WORD ABOUT THAT. IF THEY WERE JUST GOING TO DO THEIR OWN POCKET PARKS AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GETTING AWAY FROM GIVING US MONEY OR LAND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNITY PARKS. OKAY GREAT, I LIKE THAT.

THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS, WHAT IS THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE OF LAND THAT A DEVELOPER GAVE THE CITY, THAT IS CITY OWNED LAND, BASICALLY UNUSABLE, CAN YOU THINK OF THE MOST RECENT?

>> MUSTANG CREEK. >> GIVES A BUNCH OF DRAINAGE

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OR SOMETHING? >> THAT WAS A PART OF A EARLY AGREEMENT, THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THE LAND.

>> AS PART OF THE PID? >> OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED EARLIER

THIS YEAR. >> OKAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE IS A BIG USELESS SECTION THAT KINDA BORDERS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT GOES BETWEEN OURS AND HUTTO PARK AND THE CITY SAID WE ARE NOT TAKING THAT.

SO OUR HOA GOT IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO WITH IT.

BUT IT IS QUITE A BIT OF ACREAGE BUT THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE CITY YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO GIVE THAT LAND AND SO I AM GUESSING THAT DEVELOPER GAVE THE MONEY BECAUSE -- QUICKLY PAID THE FEES.

>> ESCROWS DOUBLE CHECKING TO SEE.

>> COTTON BROOK TOO. [INAUDIBLE]

>> HAVE OUTSIDE WHAT THEY WERE BUILDING.

[INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A GRID SCALE THAT CONNECTS TO THE BRUSHY CREEK TRAIL

ULTIMATELY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> COTTON BROOK TOOK A BIG CHUNK TOO.

THAT LENNAR DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FROM GLENWOOD.

>> ONCE AGAIN THAT WAS -- >> A HUGE CHUNK OF FLOODPLAIN.

>> THAT WAS IN THE PID OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

>> MY CONCERN OR INTEREST HERE, IS REVOLVING AROUND THE INCENTIVES. AND THE SHOT CLOCK AND HELD THE PLACE TOGETHER, IT SEEMS LIKE WE CREATED ONE PATH WHERE IF YOU WANT TO DEDICATE LAND, YET GO TO THE PARKS BOARD TO HAVE A LONGER PROCESS, THINGS TO GIVE STAFF A LITTLE MORE TIME TO REVIEW SOME THINGS MAYBE GET MORE STUFF DONE BUT FOR A DEVELOPER, IF YOU WANT TO ACCELERATE YOUR PLANS, I CAN GO TO THE PARKS BOARD OR IF YOU JUST WRITE A CHECK AND BE DONE WITH THE WHOLE THING. AND I THINK WE ARE FURTHER INCENTIVIZING WRITING THAT CHECK.

ALMOST REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FEE IS.

WHEN YOU RAISE THE FEE IT HELPS REDUCE INCENTIVE BUT IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE CREATING A FAST PATH OF JUST DOING A FEW VERSUS A SLOWER PATH. I THINK IT I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THE PATH BECOME EQUAL FOR EVERYBODY.

>> MAYBE HAVE TO GO TO THE PARKS BOARD, TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH DOING A FEE OR IF THEY WILL TRY TO DEMAND YOU DEDICATE SOME LAND. I DKNOW.

>> LAY WITH THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, LET ME FIND IT HERE.

THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE I SHOULD SAY, IT GIVES US AT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN STAGE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ASKING DEVELOPERS TO COME IN. THAT'S WHERE IT IS INITIALLY APPROVED BY MYSELF AND OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

DURING THOSE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL QUALIFY. WE THINK IT WILL QUALIFY.

IF IT QUALIFIES, THEN IT GOES TO THE PARK BOARD THE NEXT MEETING. THAT WAY IT WILL BE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED AT THE NEXT MEETING.

>> THE DEVELOPER CANNOT CHOOSE TO BYPASS THAT?

AND PAY THE FEE. >> THEY CAN, HAVE THE OPTION IF THEY WANT TO PAY THE FEE, THEY CAN.

>> AND THEY GET FASTER PATH THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FASTER.

>> IT TO BE FASTER BECAUSE DEPENDING ON, PARKS MEETS THE SECOND WEEK OF THE MONTH. PLANNING AND ZONING IS THE FIRST WEEK OF THE MONTH. ABOUT A MONTH.

>> THAT WAS COME THE POINT WHERE I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOA.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I SEE HAPPENING.

IF THEY CAN'T CUT THE HOA PARK A PART OF THE LAND THEY'RE DEDICATING, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD HOA PARK AND GIVE US LAND IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A COMMUNITY PARK.

I SEE THEM GOING THE MONEY WAY, AND SO, THEN THE CHALLENGE IS, WHERE DO WE, IF WE GOT MONEY, EVEN IF WE RAISE THE RATES, WE ARE GOING TO BUY THE LAND FROM? BECAUSE EVERY DEVELOPER WILL WANT TO BUILD HOUSES ON THEIR LAND.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO FIND LAND WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE.

THAT IS WHERE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS COME IN BECAUSE WE

WILL HAVE TO BUY LAND. >> WE ARE AT A CRITICAL POINT RIGHT NOW. CURRENT POLICY, WE ARE IN EITHER LAND RICH OR MUDDY RICH. IF THIS GETS ADOPTED, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PENDULUM SWINGS, MAYBE A COMBINATION BUT YOU EITHER HAVE MORE CASH ON HAND, MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS OR HAVE MORE LAND BETTER SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PARK LAND.

WE ARE KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE WILL AND REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY PAY THE FEES IN THE WORLD.

THEY DO HAVE LAND REQUIREMENTS, THEY CAN MEET WITHIN THE PLAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT COME ON BOARD AS A FUTURE PARK

POTENTIALLY. >> THIS IS A FACT PIDS AS WELL. HAVING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT

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DISTRICT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 15 ACRES.

>> SO, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, I'M LOOKING AT, WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SAYING IT RIGHT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR PID EXECUTED, THIS DOES NOT TROMP, CORRECT? IS THAT THE RIGHT TERMS?

>> THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AGREEMENTS ARE NEGOTIATED. REMEMBER, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE. WE HAVE A LOT OF WAYS, WE CAN ALSO USE DOLLARS UNAUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS LIKE A PUBLIC PARK BECAUSE THE PID IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE

CITY. >> WITH THIS AGREEMENT SUPERSEDE THAT? IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 15 ACRES? OR DOES IT WORK IN TANDEM?

>> IT WILL BE NEGOTIATED. IT WOULD WORK IN TANDEM MORE.

>> I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT MAYOR PRO TEM HAS ABOUT NOT HAVING NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. I DISAGREE THAT IT IS EITHER OR. EITHER THEY GIVE THE LAND OR PAY THE MONEY. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE KIND OF, WHATEVER WE WANT.

DO WE WANT MONEY? OR DO WE WANT LAND? BUT WE ALSO NEED TO INCENTIVIZE MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE PARKS OTHERWISE, YOU WILL BE PUSHING EVERYBODY, TO A BIG PARK. THAT IS MORE OF A BURDEN ON US, WHEREAS, POTENTIALLY, THERE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS HAVE REALLY NICE PARKS THAT PEOPLE DO GO TO.

THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT 30 DAYS IS GOING TO BE TOO BIG OF AN ISSUE FOR DEVELOPERS TO PAY.

YOU'RE ASKING -- 800 GRAND MY GUESS IS $800,000, MOST PEOPLE AT LEAST GIVE IT 30 DAYS. PLOTTING IN HUDDLE CAN BE DONE IN 30 DAYS IS THE ONLY COMMUNITY NO THAT YOU CAN PLOT 30 DAYS. EVERYONE ELSE HAS SO MANY REQUIREMENTS PLOTTING TAKES ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO MAYBE 12 OR 15 MONTHS JUST TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN APPLY FOR A PLAT. WE ARE STILL EXTREMELY LIGHT ON REGULATIONS BUT AS THIS IS WRITTEN, I THINK WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER PERSONALLY WHERE WE DON'T, TAKE AWAY PARKS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE TO INVEST MORE INTO THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE I SAID, SOME TIMES WOMEN WANT THE MONEY, SOMETIMES YOU MAY WANT THE LAND AND I DON'T KNOW THE EASY ANSWER BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT ONE OF THE OTHER AND THEN WE END UP LAND RICH WITH NO MONEY TO FIX OR ONE UP WITH SO MUCH MONEY THAT WE CAN SPEND IT ALL ON THE PARKS WE HAVE SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWERS BUT -- IF THEY PUT A NEIGHBORHOOD TOPPER ON THEIR OWN WHICH MANY DO, LEGENDS OF

HUDDLE HOUSE, GLENWOOD HAS, >> WHY DO THEY DO? NOT TO INTERRUPT BUT WHY DO THEY? BECAUSE A 25 PERCENT PREVIOUSLY?

>> GLENWOOD GAVE THE CITY .87 ACRES.

FOR 670,000. THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE BUT THEY BUILT THE SPLASH PAD. THEY BUILT THE SPLASH PAD AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY. IT IS A CITY PARK.

WE PUT IN A PARK AREA HOA PUT IN A PARK.

THE PLAYGROUND AND WORKOUT STATIONS, SWIMMING POOL, WE HAVE SEEN IT, WE BEEN OVER THAT.

WE PUT THAT IN AND WE PAID FOR THAT IS NOT BEING TAKEN, THE ONLY THING COMING OF THE CITY IS REPAIRS AND UPKEEP AND WATER FOR THE SPLASH PAD. THAT'S IT.

QUESTION UNDERSTAND THE WAYS PRESENTED, YOU START BY SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT, LAND OR

MONEY. >> DEVELOPERS WILL STILL COME TO THE PARKS BOARD AND MAKE THEIR CASE.

WHETHER THEY GIVE US LAND AND PAY IT IN MONEY, WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO P&Z WHETHER THEY WILL SIGN OFF ON AND WE MUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU SO IT COULD COME OUT TO A MIXTURE OF CASH AND LAND, AND A COMMUNITY PARK THAT THE HOA TAKES CARE OF. IT COULD BE ALL THREE OF THOSE BUT WHAT THIS IS DOING RIGHT NOW FOR US, THIS IS TELLING US, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE LAND AND NOT TO TAKE 25 PERCENT.

>> ARE THING OUR CONCERNS ARE THAT.

WANT TO KEEP TAKING THE SCRAP CRAP LAND I DON'T THINK ANYONE

IS ADVOCATING FOR THAT. >> ONE THING WE HEAR WILL BE ASKED ABOUT PARK LAND ON P&Z, THAT IS A SELLING POINT FOR THAT COMMUNITY. SO, IF THEY WANT A HIGH QUALITY

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COMMUNITY, THEY'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD HOA PARKS. BECAUSE THAT IS A DRAW FOR

SELLING. >> THAT IS WHAT ASPEN HEIGHTS

IS DOING. >> IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. DON'T THINK WE ARE TAKING WE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS BY PUTTING US IN. THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTAL

MARKETING AND SELLING POINTS. >> WHAT I VIEW THIS AS, WE ARE NOT GIVING THEM AN OUT BY SAYING, WE GIVE YOU AN ACRE AND 1/2 PARK WITH PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

THAT COUNTS, WE'RE GOOD.E ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

>> THE DEVELOPER COMES IN AND GOES, LIKE THESE PARKS AND THEIR GREAT AMENITIES, HELP US SELL HOMES.

THEY TELLING YOU WHATEVER THEY WANT TO TELL YOU BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO APPROVE THEIR PLAT BECAUSE THEY ARE GIVING THE BARE MINIMUM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, AS A CREDIT FOR THIS FEE. ALL I'M SAYING IS, AS SOON AS HE CHANGES, COUNSEL MERRILL CLARK TALKS ABOUT CONSEQUENCES AND THINGS CHANGING. THE MINUTE THE CHANGES, YOU MAY NOT HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT HOW THESE PARKS HELP SELL HOMES BECAUSE HOME SELLS SO FASTER LET'S BE HONEST, IF I BUILD 10 HOMES, NOBODY CARES WHAT COLOR THE PAINT IS OR WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, THEY WILL SELL. THE WHOLE ARGUMENT ABOUT THEIR TELLING YOU, THEY WILL TELL YOU WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET YOU TO APPROVE THE PLAT AND GET THE CITY TO DO THINGS.

>> THAT IS RESEARCH-BASED, PEOPLE NATURALLY WANT TO BUY A HOUSE THAT HAS THOSE NICER AMENITIES, THAT'S WHY PAIN HOA FEE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN THERE WILL BE NO PARKS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.

>> PART OF THE FEE SETTING ADJUSTMENT AMENDMENT THAT IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO HAPPEN, SHOULD BE TIED IN OR SHOULD BE REVIEWED MORE THAN ONCE EVERY 15 YEARS.

SO THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT, YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF PAYING $800,000 FOR 1000 HOMES, MAYBE IT IS $8 MILLION FOR 1000 HOMES. NOW, MAYBE I REALLY DO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT 15 ACRES LAND IS GOING TO COST ME $6 MILLION LET'S SAY. WHICH ONE DO I WANT TO DO HERE?

>> ALWAYS GET SCARED WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE

DOING. >> I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE BY. I'M TALKING ABOUT I HAVE CHILDREN, WHERE WERE GOING TO BUY HOUSE? HOPING TO BUY ONE IF THERE'S A PARK CLOSE BY.

[INAUDIBLE] >> I DO WANT TO SAY THAT P&Z CONSIDERED IT ABSENT THE FEES, KNOWING THAT THE FEES WILL BE CALCULATE AND CONSIDER AT A LATER DATE.

HE LOOKED AT IT LIKE THIS IS A GOOD WAY FORWARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. >> LET ME DO THIS.

I DON'T SEE AN ORDINANCE IN HIS POCKET.

IS THERE AN ORDINANCE THAT CAME OUT THAT I MISSED? I WAS GETTING READY TO HAVE YOU LOOK AT THAT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY.

ANYBODY OBJECT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE -- HEARING NONE, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING 9:28 PM.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IN THE AUDIENCE, REGARDING THIS CHANGE? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO ONE, WILL CLOSE, 9:28 PM.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO Ã2022 Ã060 AMENDING SECTION 10.609.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND.

FOR THE RECORD, I CANNOT VOTE FOR ANYTHING.

WE ARE LITERALLY TAKING ACTION TO PROVE AN ITEM YOU GUYS HAVE NOT READ. IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE

THAT I'M GOING TO SIGN. >> WAS IT PRESENTED AS P&Z?

>> ELSE WAS GOING TO SAY. >> AND NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY

THE ORDINANCE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BACK UP.>> IS THIS

WHEN IT WAS SENT TO US? >> THIS WILL COME BACK ON SECOND READING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO, IS TYPICALLY JUST YOUR ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENITIES ATTACHED TO IT. THAT IS NOT INCLUDED.

>> WE'VE SEEN THE AMENDMENTS, IT JUST KIND OF THE PAPERWORK

PORTION OF IT IS MISSING? >> YOUR GUYS CALL.

>> WILL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.

>> WE CAN APPROVE ANYWAY BECAUSE IS NOT REALLY APPROVED UNTIL IT IS READ A SECOND TIME BUT A RATHER TABLE IT AND BRING IT BACK AND DUE TO READINGS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

WAVE THE SECOND READING AT THAT MEETING.

>> IF THE SAME THING. >> OVER THE JET BECAUSE WE'LL GET TO AN ISSUE HERE LATER. WE WENT OVER ITEMS AND WAS A COUNSEL TEND TO IMPROVE THINGS CONTINGENT ON SOME STIPULATION,

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THAT STIPULATION IS NEVER BEING FOLLOWED BY ANYBODY.

AND SO WE ARE PROVING THINGS REGULARLY WITH THIS THOUGHT INFORMATION AND SO, I WOULD K, JUST TELL EVERYBODY TO BE CAREFUL. WE THINK IT WILL COME BACK FOR THE SECOND, WE HAVE THINGS THAT NEVER COME BACK.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

APPROVED, SO WE NEED TO VOTE. >> WITH THAT, ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE AND IT WAS PRESENTED P&Z.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THIS.

IT IS OUT THERE AND I HAVE SEEN IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 10.2 AND REQUEST IT BE BROUGHT BACK IN THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. WITH THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED AND IT ALSO INCLUDES POSSIBILITY OF A SECOND READING SO WE CAN

IMPROVE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. >> SECOND.

IF WE CAN MAKE THE MEETING JANUARY 5.

>> SURE. >> MOTION TO TABLE 10.2 AND DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THE ITEM BACK.

WITH ORDINANCE ON JANUARY 5. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT WE JUST, MADE CHANGES TO THE HUTTO YOUTH BASKETBALL AND SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION ON THE FLY IN CONSENT SO, I GUESS WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT ON SOME OF THE ACTION THAT WE DO.

>> THANK YOU. I ALWAYS VOTE NO IF IT IS NOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME SO THANK YOU BECAUSE --

>> IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

>> SOMETIMES I WON'T VOTE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE WRITTEN THE RIGHT WAY. OKAY.

HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON TABLING UNTIL JANUARY 5.

[10.1. Conduct a public hearing and take possible action on Ordinance No. O-2022-059 approving the proposed Specific Use Permit for the Hutto Independent School District at 573 Chris Kelley Boulevard (Hutto High School), 76.135 acres, more or less, of land, to allow a reduction in the required landscaping (UDC 10.407.5), required parking (10.405.9) and roof-mounted mechanical equipment (10.406.6.8). (Ashley Bailey) ]

>> MOTION PASSES, 6-1. I AM 10.1.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. O-2022-059 APPROVING THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE HUTTO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AT 573 CHRIS KELLEY BOULEVARD (HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL), 76.135 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, OF LAND, TO ALLOW A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING (UDC 10.407.5), REQUIRED PARKING (10.405.9) AND ROOF-MOUNTED MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT

(10.406.6.8). >> GOOD EVENING.

>> FOR THE RECORD, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEVELOPER FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. AS STATED IN THE TITLE OF THIS, THIS IS REQUESTING LANDSCAPING -- FOR THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT EXIST TODAY. I WANT TO UPDATE YOU BRIEFLY.

WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IN JANUARY. TO REVISIT THIS IT'S BEEN A POINT OF DISCUSSION SO, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING AND THE NEW YEAR. THE MEETINGS WERE SCHEDULED.

OWEVER, WE KNEW THAT THIS MODERNIZATION PROJECT WOULD OUTPACE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. HE WENT AHEAD AND PROCESSED THIS AS AGAINST THE EXISTING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

YOU CAN SEE HERE FOR THE PARKING, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE 31 LESS SPACES THAN ALL OF THE SPACES REQUIRE BUT ARE PROVIDING OVER 1900 SPACES ON SITE. ONE OF THE THINGS DISCUSSED AT P&Z WAS THAT THEY WOULD GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE SHUTTLES OF THE ACTION AT ALL 2000 SPACES OR WHEN THEY WILL HAVE A LARGE EVENT AT THE STADIUM. HERE IS THE PARKING ADJACENT.

YOU CAN SEE, THE MAIN CAMPUS HERE YOU CAN A■LSO SEE PROXIMIT OF THE OTHER CAMPUSES SO THEY DO HAVE AMPLE ABILITY AS THEY'VE DONE FOR EVENTS BUT OTHER CITY EVENTS WITH OTHER

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THINGS OUT OF THE AMPHITHEATER. THE SECOND REQUEST IS FOR ROOF SCREENING. THAT ACTUALLY ALSO WAS DISCUSSED AT P&Z AND IT CAME OUT FOR THE NEW PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING, WE STILL NEED TO BE SCREENED BUT YOU CAN SEE HER FOR THE MOST PART, HOW WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT SCREENING, A LOT OF THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE SCREENED FOR THE HEAD OF THE BUILDING WE TAKE IT FROM AN AVERAGE SIZE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET ESSENTIALLY FROM THE SIDEWALK ACROSS THE STREET OR EQUITABLE DISTANCE. AND THE LAST THING WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY THE LANDSCAPING.

SOME THAT CAME AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN JULY 15 OF 2021 LESS TIME THE STADIUM CAME THROUGH THE SEP THE FINAL WAS THAT THEY WERE GOING UP 50 PERCENT REDUCTION LANDSCAPING. AND PROVIDE 24 PERCENT OF THAT AND EQUALED 33 TREES YOU CAN SEE THEM IN BLUE, THERE IS THREE HERE, THREE HERE, TOO HERE, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE MISSED AND ALSO REMAINDER ALONG FRONT STREET.

THOSE WERE CAPTURED IN THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE REST AFTER DISCUSSION WITH P&Z, YOU'VE GOT THE BUSHES NOW ALONG HERE ALONG THE PARKING AREA. IT IS 185 FIVE GALLON SHRUBS.

EQUALING TWO SHRUBS PER PARKING ON CHRIS COLEY BOULEVARD, THE REMAINDER ON SITE OR 30 PERCENT REQUIRED SHRUBS, 185 OR 30 PERCENT OF THE OVERALL REQUIRED SHRUBS ON SITE WITH TWO SHRUBS PER PARKING STALL ON CHRIS KELLY AGAIN IS A FIVE GALLON IT IS LARGER THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED. ALSO THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE MINIMUM OF 16 FOUR INCH TREES ALONG CHRIS KELLY BROUGHT ABOARD. YOU HAVE THREE INCH CALIPER TREES LOCATED ON SITE MORE THAN UDC AND ALSO MORE THAN TWO AND HALF INCHES. AND THEY ARE AMENABLE TO THE CHANGES PAGES TO GO BACK APPROVE THE DEFINITION OF SCREENING ON THE ROOF ON THE PORTIONS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE THE ISD ARCHITECT HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> LUCKY WITH COUNSEL WILL DO THE SAME THING AS LAST TIME.

WE WILL CLOSE THAT OPEN UP FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE CAN START BY ASKING ISD IF THEY LIKE TO COMMENT BEFORE DISCUSSION. WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO.

ISD FIRST? ALL RIGHT, HEARING OBJECTIONS, LET'S LET ISD PRESENT AND THEN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION WITH

COUNCIL. >> LEMON LOVES LIME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN SUTTON FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT MUNICATION HAD WITH P&Z WAS VERY BENEFICIAL, SOME GREAT DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE HOURS WORTH OF DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE.T IS VERY COLLABORATIVE. WE ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND I THINK WE CAME TO THE UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT THAT WE REFER WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THIS CITY TO MAKE IT THE BEST PLACE FOR PEOPLE AND CHILDREN.

TO GET AN EDUCATION AND A REFERENCE TO THE MAYOR'S REMARKS EARLIER ABOUT WHEN THESE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES COME ONLINE, THAT IS JUST GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE TAX BASE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WHICH WILL LESSEN THE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS AND HOMEOWNERS. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT WE WILL EXPERIENCE IN THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS WHEN THE CITY WERE CURRENTLY AT 10,000 STUDENTS, WE ARE PREDICTED TO BE 17,000 IN THE NEXT 7 TO 10 YEARS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL AND BEFORE YOU EVEN GET INTO DISCUSSION OR TALK ABOUT VOTES, EARLY IN THE PROCESS, WE WERE GIVEN EXCELLENT FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION ON HOW TO CREATE OUR PROPOSAL. SHE GAVE US A LOT OF DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE FOR THAT. AND THEN, FOR THE P&Z MEMBERS EXCELLENT DISCUSSION. WE ACTUALLY HAD CONVERSATION WITH THEM IN THE NOVEMBER P&Z WHICH DIDN'T MAKE WAR BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD GUIDANCE FROM THAT AND REINSERTED THAT GUIDANCE INTO THIS SUBMITTAL. PRIOR TO ANYTHING ELSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ACTUALLY SAID IT BEST, WITH HER EXPLANATION OF THE SUBMITTAL AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING FORWARD, I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST BECAUSE I WASN'T IN THE POSITION. I WASN'T PART OF ANY CONVERSATION OR DISCUSSIONS BUT I KNOW MOVING FORWARD, AS A REPRESENTATIVE HUTTO ISD AND AS A STEWARD OF TAXPAYER ENTITIES, IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN, AND THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR KIDS. I CAN TELL YOU WE WILL DO OUR PART TO WORK WITH YOU TO MEET WHATEVER EXPECTATIONS WE CAN THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR KIDS.HANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> CAN I GET YOUR NAME AGAIN? >> I'M SORRY, MARK WILLOUGHBY DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES PLANNING AND CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS FOR

HUTTO ISD. >> DIRECTOR OF?

I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THAT? >> FACILITIES PLANNING AND

CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS. >> WELCOME TO HUTTO.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK WHAT I LIKE THE MOST ABOUT THAT MEETING, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING IN.

IT IS THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO MOVING SHRUBS AND MOVING THE TREES OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AND AS YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SHRUBS AND TREES IN THE PARKING LOT.

BUT WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HIS GOALS AND WHAT HAPPENS, IT COULD DETER A CAMERA SOMEBODY FROM BEING YOU KNOW SO AND TO BE WHATEVER BUT I THOUGHT, EXPLAINING IN THAT WAY, AND THE WAY WE WILL APPROACH THAT AND MOVING THE SHRUBS WERE STILL PROTECT THE PROPERTY BUT YET, DOESN'T OBSCURE ANY SIGHTLINES.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. >> YES MA'AM THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE THAT WE FOLLOW. AS THE EVENT A MONTH AND HALF AGO WE HAD SOME STUDENTS THAT WERE NOT OF OUR OWN, NOT PART OF THE ISD BUT ON OUR CAMPUS AT A PERFORMANCE AT A FOOTBALL GAME AND HAD ILL INTENT.IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF SAFETY OFFICERS TO MONITOR THEIR MOVEMENTS WITH THE CAMERAS ALONG THE BUILDINGS, THEY COULD HAVE VERY EASILY ESCAPE SITE SO THAT IS A MAJOR FACTOR AND WHY WE DON'T HAD TREES IN THE PARK NOT BECAUSE IT OBSTRUCTS LINE OF SIGHT.

KIDS CAN HIDE BEHIND TRUCKS. THAT'S THE TRUTH OF IT.

WE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE, BUT IT IS ABOUT SAFETY.

>> OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS FROM COUNSEL?

>> I DO KNOW THAT THE OTHER PART THAT CAME UP ON P&Z BEFORE, THE OTHER THING IS A BAND PRACTICE IS ON THE PARKING LOT. AND SO, IF YOU ACTUALLY GO TO THE VISITOR PARKING THAT YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE 50, 40, 30 GARLANDS IN THE PARKING LOT THAT'S HOW THESE TO PRACTICE, THAT IS IF YOU HAVE THE RAISED AREAS WITH SHRUBS, YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY PRACTICE FOR THE MARCHING BAND.

THAT IS ANOTHER BENEFIT OR REASON THAT THEY HAVE IN

ADDITION TO THE CITY. >> I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

THE REDUCTION IN THE PARKING. DOES IT REALLY ONLY COME INTO PLAY WE HAVE LARGE EVENTS? OR WILL THAT AFFECT THE DAY-TO-DAY ABILITY FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH

PARKING DAY-TO-DAY? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, IT HAPPENS FOR LARGE EVENTS, A LARGE EVENTS ARE ABOUT 5 TO 70 YEAR, TALKING FIVE HOME FOOTBALL GAMES AND GRADUATION NIGHT. IN THE EVENT THAT MAY TAKE PLACE, COKE FEST, ANOTHER WAS A REQUEST FOR USER PARKING SPACE FOR THE CHRISTMAS, THE AMOUNT WE HAD DOWN SRA, THOSE ARE WHEN THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING WOULD BE REQUIRED.

5 TO 7 TIMES YOUR FOOTBALL GAMES AND GRADUATION.

EVEN ON THOSE NICE AND WITH CURRENT PLAYOFF GAMES THAT WE JUST POSTED, WE HAVE MOBILIZED AND HAD READY TO MOBILIZE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM, BUS DRIVERS AND SHUTTLE SYSTEM FOR PATRONS AND FANS TO PARK AT OTHER CAMPUSES AND WE RUN SHUTTLES BACK AND FORTH.T WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US AT OUR GRADUATION AND WE HAD MOBILIZATION ON HAND AND ON POINT READY FOR THE COKE FEST.

IT'S VERY RARELY REASON OTHER THAN THOSE.

>> AND HAD A QUESTION I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE, WHO HAS A CLICKER? IS THE ONE THAT SHOWED WHERE THE TREES WERE. WHAT SIZE ARE THOSE BLUE TREES? THAT ARE ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK?

>> YES SIR, THOSE BLUE TREES ARE THREE INCH CALIBER.

THOSE MORE THAN WHAT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT REQUIRED OR ASKED, THEY STIPULATED TO AN F INCH BUT WE IMPLEMENTED THREE INCH TREES ALONG THE STRETCH OF AREA.

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>> VILLAGES IS 100 INCH. >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO --

>> NOT THAT BIG. >> THAT IS GAME CHANGING.

>> IS CUMULATIVE. ACTUALLY JUST -- THE 100 CALIBER ENGINE IS THE LANGUAGE USED IN THE JULY 15 MEETING LAST YEAR. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT, BUT WAS DIFFERED FROM THE STADIUM PROJECT.

IT IS DISTRIBUTED FOR THREE INCHES.

THAT IS -- >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. MARK, YOU PROBABLY WERE WORRIED ABOUT ME. AS YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR TIME --

[INAUDIBLE] >> THEY SHOULD HAVE.

AS YOU'VE SEEN I'M MORE JUST A LITTLE PERSON.

A LOT OF TIMES I GET A BAD RAP, DULY EARNED BECAUSE I LOOK AT PLANS FOR LIVING AND I LOOK AT ALL THESE DEVELOPMENT CODES AND ALL THAT. WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS, TRY TO SEE WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS AND IF IT IS CORRECT.

LET'S START OFF WITH THE SITE PLAN.

THIS LOOKS A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE WERE GIVEN LAST JULY, WHICH ORIGINALLY COMMENT TO GIVE YOU LOW BACK STORY, WAS NOTHING AND I WAS LITTLE DISAPPOINTED I KNOW THE DRAWER ARCHITECT WAS. YOU TRIED YOUR BEST BECAUSE IT WAS NOTHING ON THERE. SO, THIS MAKES ME FEEL A LOT BETTER BECAUSE AS I SEE PEOPLE WORKING TOWARDS THINGS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO -- WE WAITED FOR A COMP PLAN TO THEN THE UDC WOULD GIVE PEOPLE VARIANCES ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. I ALSO GRIPED A LOT ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. IT IS NOT BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. THERE IS ONE ISSUE ON PLOTTING I THINK THAT HAS TO CHANGE. MY ISSUE WITH THIS QUITE UNASSAILABLE THE CITY OF HUTTO IS DOING THE JOB I DON'T BELIEVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING THEIR JOB.

YOU FIRST DO A SITE ON THE AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THE DISTRICT WILL FORMALLY MEET WITH THE CITY AND REGULARLY COMMUTE, COMMUNICATE TO DISCUSS APPLICABLE SITE SELECTION AND DEVELOP MENTAL ISSUES PRIOR TO THE DISTRICT FINALIZING PROPERTY ACQUISITION. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS REQUIRED, THIS IS WAY AFTER IT WAS ACQUIRED BUT RECENTLY THE DISTRICT HAD LAND UNDER CONTRACT AS I'M TOLD BY SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS, WOULDN'T QUITE MEET WITH THE CITY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IN MY MIND THAT THE CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, I HAVE TO FIGURE IS THIS A GOOD DEAL WHAT WE ARE PLANNING, THE PROBLEM I THINK WE REALLY BEEN MISSING IS, LATER ON IT SAYS, WAS A CITY AND DISTRICT AGREE ON THE DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT ARE APPLICABLE, TO A PARTICULAR PERMIT APPLICATION OF PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING, THE DEVELOPER AND SHE SHALL BE PUT IN WRITTEN FORM AND SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT AND APPLICATIONS TO THE DISTRICT DEVELOPED A SITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT CODES DISCUSSED AT THE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING.

DOES THIS DOCUMENT EXIST? BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THE PACKET, NOT IN ANY APPLICATION, THERE SHOULD BE SOME DOCUMENT FROM THE ISD IN THE CITY WHEN THE IDEA OF RENOVATION AND EXPANSION, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, SOMEONE FROM THE ISD SHOULD HAVE BEEN SITTING WITH THE CITY, GONE OVER ALL OF THE ISSUES, LAID THEM OUT, PUT THEM IN WRITING, DO YOU KNOW, AS IS

THE DOCUMENT EXIST ANYMORE? >> END OF THE DOCUMENT EXISTS BUT I KNOW IT HAD MEETING. WE HAD MEETINGS OVER THE PAST YEAR, MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH ASHLEY AND CITY MEMBERS TO DISCUSS THE PLANS THAT THE DISTRICT HAS AS FAR AS BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE GIVE UPDATES AND COMMUNICATE REGULARLY WITH ONE ANOTHER, AS FAR AS A LEGAL DOCUMENT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE TO GIVE AN ACCURATE ANSWER.> AS WE GO THROUGH AND THE DISTRICT IS EXPANDING, ASSUMING THIS MAKES IT INTO THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE DOCUMENT.

IF WE, THE CITY IS REQUIRING IF YOU GUYS COULD DO THAT LIKE WHEN I DEVELOP IN THE DAY I MEET WITH THE CITY, I GET EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN WRITING.

AT LEAST GET SOME SORT OF ON THE RIGHT PAGE BECAUSE I THINK WHAT HAPPENS, WE START, SOME THINGS TAKE A YEAR OR THREE YEARS SO THE COUNCIL CHANGES, SCHOOL BOARD CHANGES, STAFF AND CITY CHANGES AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE IS SAYING, TWO YEARS AGO SOMEONE SAID I COULD DO SOMETHING AND NOW YOU HAVE A NEW COUNCIL THAT IS GOING, LOOK, SORRY.

I THINK IT'S BEEN KIND OF SOME OF THE ISSUE.

I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE WERE CARTER'S ENTITIES TO PUT THINGS IN WRITING SO WE CAN SEE WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER, RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE CUTTING CORNERS, WE BEING TOO RIGID,

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I'M NOT THERE FOR ANY OF THE DISCUSSION.

I AM NOT EXACTLY EXCITED ABOUT THE HB 2439 REFERENCE.

BEEN DOING IT QUITE A LONG TIME SINCE THE LAW CAME OUT AND I HAVEN'T QUITE SEEN THAT REFERENCE.

ONE THING ABOUT ME, I'D RATHER PEOPLE JUST BE UPFRONT AND SAY I WILL PUT SCREENING UP BECAUSE THEY HATE SCREENING AROUND UNITS, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE START USING A LAW I START WORRYING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL STARTS SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF BLAH BLAH BLAH WE OUGHT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DICTATE BECAUSE 2439 WE CANNOT MAKE YOU WRAP THINGS IN EVERY DEVELOPER IN THE WORLD NOW WANTS TO DO THAT WOMEN'S WILL TAKE IT OUT.

ON THESE THINGS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE UNTIL DEVELOPERS ALL THE TIME, YOU GOT A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE, BE UPFRONT AND SAY LOOK, IT'S A COST, AESTHETIC, IT'S WHATEVER BECAUSE FOR ME ANYWAY, IF YOU TRY TO MANIPULATE A LAW, I USUALLY JUST -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AGAIN, I'M USED TO AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE CITIES MAKE ME DO EVERYTHING.

WHAT IS IT THAT THE CITY CAN DO THAT IF YOU ALL SAY, ALL THESE GREEN TREES AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE THERE.

WHEN THEY DIE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS TO ME, OUTSIDE LOOKING IN THE SCHOOL JUST CUTS OFF THE GROUND.

AND GOES ON ITS WAY. MY KIDS GRADUATE AND THEIR TREE STUMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE WE APPROVED TREES BUT THEN THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT OR SOMETHING. I WOULD LIKE WHATEVER WE DO HERE, THAT YOU GUYS ALSO, GO BACK AND PLANT THE TREES THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY PERMITTED ADEQUATE NATURE BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE CODES PEOPLE COME DOWN I WOULD RATHER JUST US WORKING TOGETHER AS A RELATIONSHIP, WE GIVE YOU VARIANCE IS NOT SORT OF THING. I WANT TO BRING AGAIN FOR THE GROUP, SCARCELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TREE ORDINANCE PRIOR TO UDC BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.

THE AMOUNT OF TREES WE ARE REQUIRING DOES HAVE SOME LAND BUT WE HAVE SOME DEVELOPERS COME APPEAR.

WE PLANT THEM SO CLOSE, THE TREE TRUNKS TOUCH EACH OTHER AND SO WE KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE, THIS ONE IS FOR ASHLEY, ONE OF THE LAST TIME A TIA WAS DONE ON THIS? ON THIS DEVELOPMENT? HAS IT BEEN DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT YOU KNOW OF?

>> THE LAST TIME WE HAD COORDINATION MEETING WITH THE ISD THEY SAID THERE WAS ONE UNDERWAY, BUT HAVE NOT SEEN ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND A BLUE SINCE BEFORE THE STATEMENT

WHEN THE STADIUM WAS EXPANDING. >> CITY MANAGER VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE MY GUESS IS THAT WE USING OLD TIA AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS, A COUPLE OF THINGS. NINTH GRADE TRAFFIC IS TERRIBLE WHILE MOLLY SAY FIX IT? WE CANNOT WIDEN EVERY WORD BECAUSE WE BUILD A SCHOOL. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE TIA IS FOR.

IF YOU ARE DEVELOPER, YOU'D BE FORCED TO DO SOME UPGRADES BASED ON THE TRAFFIC. THAT YOU ARE IMPACTING.

THE WAY THE ILA IS WRITTEN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHALL BE DOING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPACT JUST LIKE A REGULAR DEVELOPER. WE CANNOT CHARGE IMPACT FEES, BUT THEY HAVE TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE ISSUES THEY ARE CAUSING, THIS IS LIKE I MEAN -- CALL STERN AND CHRIS KELLY IS A NIGHTMARE. ALL THIS EXPANSION.

I THINK AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO LOOK HAVE AN UPDATED TIA AND REALIZE, NOT TELLING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHAT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY BUT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE ALL THIS EXPANSION AT THE SCHOOL BECAUSE POTENTIALLY, THE ROAD MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. AND IF IT IS GRIDLOCKED, GREAT, WE HAVE A SCHOOL THAT WILL HOLD 25,000 PEOPLE, THE STADIUM AND YOU CAN HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT THEY CANNOT GET IN AND OUT AND IT'S REALLY A MESS NOW, MY KIDS THAT HAD SOME KIND OF POWER AND WANTED ME TO FIX THE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE MORNING. BUT THE TIA, IT ACTUALLY TALKS IN HERE THAT IN THE EVENT THE DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 100 PERCENT OF THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS DESCRIBED IN TIA APPROVED AS SET FORTH ABOVE, THE DISTRICT WILL INSTALL ALL IMPROVEMENTS AND MAKE NECESSARY PUBLIC DEDICATIONS AS RECOMMENDED.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS, WE JUST DID A DEAL WHERE THE CITIES HELPING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUT SOME SIDEWALKS AND THAT MAYBE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. BUT GOING FORWARD TYPICALLY WIMPY DEVELOPMENT SURVEY DONE, CITIES USUALLY MAKE EVERYBODY UPDATE THEIR FLOOD STUDIES, MAKE, YOUR TAKE A LOT OF -- THEY CAN DO TIA AND I THINK ILA SPELLS US ALL OUT.

I REALLY THINK BARRING GIVE YOU GUYS TREE REDUCTION, YOU GUYS NEED TO DO THIS AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, MAYBE YOU GUYS CANNOT BUILD ALL THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN

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KNOW IF THE TIA WOULD SAY AND TELL YOU GUYS TO COMPLETE OUR GUYS LOOK AT IT, WE HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WHICH LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS. AN IMPERVIOUS COVER ADDED, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO ADD DETENTION SPACES OR IMPROVEMENTS TO DETENTION AREA SO THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, AND STANDARDS REQUIREMENTS, THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, WE WILL BUT OBVIOUSLY, AROUND THE CHRIS KELLY BOULEVARD ACCESS, WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT, IT IS A TXDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE DO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE ARE AWARE OF IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND HERE AND TELL YOU THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL EXPECTED LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE THOSE ANALYSIS AND TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE AS MUCH IMPROVEMENT AS WE CAN.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU SETTING UP THE RECORD BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE AT THIS POINT SOMEONE'S GOT TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY MANAGER ASKS US FOR MONEY TO FIX ROADS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE SCHOOL, HE ALREADY KNOWS I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.

I MAY BE OUTVOTED BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR PROBLEM.

YOU HAS HAD TO FIX THAT JUST LIKE A DEVELOPER WOULD.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS A GOOD PARTNERSHIP.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACTS ARE.

THE TIA MIGHT SAY THINGS ARE FINE AND I'LL GET YOUR CONCERN MAYBE IT'S A TXDOT ROAD. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY DO TIA? THEY HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

IF THIS AFTER WIDEN THE ROAD, WE ALSO TO TXDOT ROAD.

WE SAY, WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT AND COME BACK.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T FIGURE IT OUT, WE HAVE TWO.

AND WE GOT SO MANY PROJECTS WE CANNOT AFFORD.

AND YOU GUYS GOT PROJECTS YOU CAN'T AFFORD.

IF YOU CAN JUST COME BACK WITH THAT, AND THE LAST TWO THINGS, I'M NOT A REAL FIND THAT REDUCING PARKING.

UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS HAVE THIS EXHIBIT.

BUT THERE ARE LIKE THREE SCHOOLS, HAVE GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER TWO OF THEM WHERE THE RESIDENCE OR JUST RAISING CAIN ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE PARKING ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE HUTTO PD, HPD, NO ONE IS REALLY BREAKING THE LAW IN THEIR PARKING EVERYWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ISSUE OF SOMEONE DEDICATED PARKING PERMIT OR INSURANCE OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT IF EXTROVERTED TO REDUCE PARKING AND IS ALWAYS PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO MILL TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

YOU SEE THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING? HAVE TO ANSWER PEOPLE.

>> MAYBE I CAN HELP ANSWER THAT.

31 ADDITIONAL SPACES WILL BE ADDED TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG FRONT STREET. AND JUST TO KNOW THAT DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, THAT'S AN EMPTY PARKING LOT.

31 ADDITIONAL EMPTY SPACES ARE GOING TO IMPACT WAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THE PARKING IS TAKING PLACE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE PROBABLY STUDENTS AT DON'T HAVE THE PARKING PERMITS OR MAY NOT EVEN HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE.

I DON'T KNOW, IS NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RESPONSIBILITY TO MONITOR THAT AND DRIVERS WHERE THEY PARKED IN THE DAY.

OUR PARKING SPACES ARE MOSTLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STADIUM. WHERE STUDENT PARKING AREA IS AND ANY ADDITIONAL STUDENT PARKING WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE PARKING SPACES WOULD BE JUST NORTH OR SOUTH OF THAT FOOTBALL FIELD THAT PRACTICE AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT 31 SPACES BUT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, 31 ADDITIONAL SPACES AREN'T GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION AT THE P&Z MEETING, AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL PERSONS BROUGHT

THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. >> WE HAVE THIS ANIMAL MORE.

CAN YOU SAY WE CAN'T HELP THAT. WHEN DEVELOPERS BUILD NEIGHBORHOODS WE SHUT STREETS DOWN AND CHAT ACCESS BECAUSE THAT DEVELOPER COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEIR TRUCK STOP DRIVING OFF THE RESIDENTIAL ROADS.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER, HE SHOULD PROBABLY BE PROACTIVE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHILE THESE KIDS AREN'T PARKING OR PROPERTY BECAUSE WE SAY THEY ARE FOLLOWING RULES ARE A CURRENT LICENSE OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE GET THE RIGHT COUNSEL.

THAT CAN DO SOMETHING. WROTE TO BLOCK DRIVEWAYS AND --

>> THOSE AREN'T OUR DRIVEWAYS. >> THE DRIVEWAY TO YOUR SCHOOL IF YOU WANT TO BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT TO NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE SHUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN.

>> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SIR. >> 1111 EDUCATION PROGRAM OR

SOMETHING WITH YOUR STUDENTS. >> WE DO, WE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES HAVE TO GO TO GET PARKING ACCESS.

YOU ASKED ABOUT 31 SPACES AND ANSWER QUESTION.

31 ADDITIONAL SPACE ON EAST OF THE PROPERTY WON'T MAKE AN IMPACT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS ON HOW KIDS PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PARKING PERMIT OR

LICENSE. >> I WAS ASKED IF YOU CAN HELP

US AND WORK TOGETHER. >> ABSOLUTELY.

OPEN DIALOGUE. >> THEY HAVE A VOCATIONAL PERMIT OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET IT PERMITTED BUT.

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> A LOT OF TIMES IT IS INSURANCE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I JUST HAD TO KIDS GRADUATE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE RAISED THEM WRONG OR SOMETHING, THE PAINTED SPOT ON THE CONCRETE BUT FOR SOME REASON, THE NEIGHBORHOODS CANNOT FIGURE IT OUT.

THE PEOPLE WHO PARK THERE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT SO I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. LET'S WORK TOGETHER, LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO JUST FIGURE THIS OUT AND FOLLOW THE ILA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THERE SHOULD BE SMOOTH SAILING.

>> I CONCUR. >> THE MAJOR ISSUE I HAVE IS, WE WERE GIVEN AN EMAIL ON DECEMBER 1, SHOWING YOUR NEW TRAFFIC PATTERN WHEN NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS COMPLETELY BROKEN BECAUSE I LIVE OFF OF CARL STERN.

WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU ALLOW PARENTS TO PARK IN THE VISITOR PARKING OF THE HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL SIDE. SOME PARENTS AS TO BOTH THE DROPPER FLAME, WALK ACROSS A PROVIDER CROSSING GUARD THERE THAT STOPS THE ENTIRE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

BETWEEN THE TWO STOP SIGNS IT CREATES A BACKLOG.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COME FROM.

YOU ARBITRARILY CLOSED THE RIGHT TURN INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL IS CLOSED NOW YOU CANNOT GET IN THAT WAY.

AND YOU WILL CONTINUE THIS WAY CAN'T CIRCLE BACK ACROSS STERN YOU HAVE A RIGHT OUT ONLY WITH NO TURNING TO THE SCHOOL FROM CHRIS KELLY WHICH MEANS ALL TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING ON CARL STERN FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THIS CONSTRUCTION.

NOT ONLY THAT, YOU ONLY ALLOW SOME TO CROSS ACROSS THE PEOPLE TRYING TO, AND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ALREADY BACKS UP PAST THE ENTRANCEWAY FOR KIDS TO GET DROPPED OFF TO THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.O, THAT IS ALREADY BROKEN PEOPLE CAN'T TURN THE NOW YOU WILL FORCE THEM TO DO DROP OFF BY COMING OTHER THAN TO THE STOP SIGN ON FRONT STREET AND COME OVER TO THE PARKING LOT TO THE BACKSIDE. THAT INTERSECTION, THE WHOLE, IT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM NOW AND YOU'RE JUST MAKING IT WORSE FOR A YEAR, TWO YEARS, HOW LONG I THINK YOU SAID THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO LAST. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A TENABLE SOLUTION. IF IT WAS OVER THE SUMMER WHEN STUDENTS AREN'T DRIVING AND THAT WOULD BE THE TIME IT WAS SHUT DOWN, FINE. THIS IS EFFECTIVE STARTING IN JANUARY WHEN PEOPLE COME BACK. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE COMPLAINTS WE WILL GET WITH THIS TRAFFIC PATTERN AND IT WAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PLEASE CONSULTED, THAT IS MY BIGGEST PROBLEM.

JUST GETTING THIS EMAIL SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT. HOW CAN YOU SET A TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT WILL BREAK EVERYTHING IN THE TOWN WITH NO FEEDBACK FROM THE POLICE CHIEF? AND TRAFFIC PLAN FROM THE CITY.

THAT IS MY PROBLEM AND THAT IS WHY I CANNOT PASS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD UNTIL WE GET A TRAFFIC SOLUTION DURING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT MAKES SENSE, IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY IN CONJUNCTION WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY.

>> IS OF THE BIGGEST CHANGE WE'VE MADE ON OUR PLAN WAS TO LIMIT WHAT WE CALL THE PASSAGEWAY FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT AND THEREFORE THE BUILDING, AROUND THE NORTH END OF THE CURRENT PACKED FACILITY.

THE PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY AND GETS INTO THE STUDENT PARKING LOT. WHICH BUTTON? THE TOP ONE? CURRENTLY, THERE IS A PASSAGEWAY FROM HERE, THAT PARENTS, CAN DRIVE FROM THE WEST OF THE CAMPUS OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARKING SPACES. THAT IS THE ONE MAIN AREA THAT WE HAVE TO SHUT UP BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION.

THIS AREA HERE BEFORE THIS IS REDONE, IT WILL BE THE LAY DOWN YOUR THE CONSTRUCTION AREA. HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

AND SO ALL OF THEIR WORK, ALL THE CONTRACTORS WORK WILL BE COMING INTO THIS AREA. AND SO FOR THE SAFETY OF DRIVERS AND STUDENTS AND PARENTS, THEY CLOSED THAT ACCESS POINT FROM WEST TO EAST OR EAST TO WEST ON THIS PROPERTY. IN ADDITION, PART OF THIS FRONT PARKING LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTS RIGHT NOW WILL BE FENCED OFF AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF SPACE OUR STAFF CAN PARK AT.

AND BUT, WE STILL HAVE EXITING THROUGH OUR CIRCLE DRIVE OUR MAIN DRIVE RIGHT NOW BUT THERE IS STILL NO INGRESS IN THE AIR, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY BEFORE I BEEN PART OF IT.

>> OF HOW YOU CAN JUST TURN OFF, BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED ON HOW IST WAS ABLE TO SAY WE JUST WON'T ALLOW TURNING FROM KISS KELLY. WE JUST CREATED --

>> AND HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. IT'S BEEN A LONG-STANDING ISSUE THAT HAVE PRIVY TO. WE KNOW THAT NOW, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, WE WILL HAVE MORE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC FROM

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SOUTH TO NORTH FOR PICKUP OR DROP-OFF HERE.

WHERE PARENTS WILL EXIT WEST AND HAD TO TURN NORTH ON CHRIS

KELLY AS THEY CURRENTLY DO. >> BUT SIR, YOU ONLY LET THEM GET IN THERE BY TURNING IN OFF OF CARL STERN.

THERE IS NO TURNING FROM CHRIS KELLY.

IF YOU REOPEN CHRIS KELLY THEY COULD, JUST LISTEN.> UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IF I MAY, THAT CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE, IT WILL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT.

BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, IF WE HAVE PARENTS TURNING IN OFF OF CHRIS KELLY, AND THEN TRY TO TURN RIGHT TO COME DOWN AND DROP KIDS OFF, NOW WE HAVE STUDENTS AT A CROSSING TRAFFIC PATTERNS. AND THAT IS NOT IDEAL.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS, THAT IS A TRAFFIC CIRCLE THERE, SIR.

>> CORRECT. >> IF YOU COME IN AND YOU ONLY ALLOW THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, NOT WHERE THE PARKING IS IF IT'S ONLY FOR DROP OFF IN FRONT OF SCHOOL THEN COMES RIGHT BACK OUT, YOU AVOID ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE FROM COMING TO CARL STERN. HE PROBABLY CUT 20 TO 30 PERCENT OF THE TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE, PARENTS OF DROP OFF THEIR KIDS TO THE SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER BUT IN SHORT IS SIGNIFICANT. BUT YOUR LEASE TO LIMIT THE WHOLE PROBLEM BUT GIVE EVERYBODY CALM UNTIL SUMMER OF 2024, DRIVING DOWN CARL STERN ALL THE WAY TO FRONT STREET, WHICH IS THERE ANOTHER FOUR-WAY STOP AND BLOCKING ALL TRAFFIC.

>> IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR 18 MONTHS AND I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS WAS WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY, THE POLICE, AND I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN JUST MAKE THIS DECISION THAT WILL DISRUPT AN ENTIRE MAJOR PORTION OF THE CITY WHERE EVERYONE USES TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

FROM 1660 ALL THE WAY OUT, THAT'S HOW THEY GET OUT TO GET

TO 130 THROUGH THAT STREET. >> COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON.

>> I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP AND THE DESIGN PLAN PRESENTED AUGUST 5 OF 21 AND GRANTED, MY KIDS HAVE BEEN OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL FOR LITTLE WHILE.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT ANY OF THE WORK THAT WAS APPROVED ON THAT PLAN WAS ACTUALLY REFLECTED IN THIS PLAN.

>> SHOULD'VE PULLED UP. >> I WISH I COULD WATCH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION BUT I WAS THINKING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE LIKE STRUCTURAL ADDITIONS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THE PRACTICE FIELD NOW IS BEING PRESENTED TO US AND THAT AREA.

WHICH IS WHERE THE PRACTICE FIELD IT SAYS ON THERE, AT THE LIBYAN ART CENTER SOMETHING, LIKE I SAID, I WAS GOING WAIT A MINUTE, SO THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE HERE FOR THE STUDENTS AND IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A WALKING AREA BUT IT SAYS IN THE MAP FROM AUGUST 5 THAT WE WERE SENT, MASTER PLAN

FUTURE ADDITION. >> IF I MAY.

I'M GOING FOR MEMORY, WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS A BUILDING ACROSS A DRIVE, JUST NORTH, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, WHERE THE PRACTICE FIELD IS.

>> THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. >> OF COURSE I THINK I CAN GIVE MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT. THAT WAS AN EARLY DISCUSSION WE WENT TO THE PROCESS IN 2019. WHERE THOSE FACILITIES COULD POTENTIALLY GO. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE A CT FACILITY IF NOT MISTAKEN.

THIS IS BEFORE MARK'S TIME BECAUSE HE CAN'T HELP ME OUT HERE. AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HAD ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE DISTRICT ABOUT WHAT MADE THE MOST SENSE FOR THE STANDPOINT TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS GET BACK AND FORTH TO THE CLASSES IN AN APPROPRIATE TIME PERIOD. -- IT WAS SOMETHING WE COULDN'T AFFORD THIS TIME THE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO BALANCE ISSUES OF INFLATION, MIDDLE SCHOOL PRODUCT AND HIGH SCHOOL ADDITIONS AND FROM WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU TODAY, IT'S CONSIDERABLY REDUCED OVER WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED EVEN WITH THIS PROJECT. LONG-TERM, THE PLAN IS TO MAKE THE BUILDING MORE COMPACT TO ALLOW THE STUDENTS TO CIRCULATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, CLEANED THE PATHWAYS TO THE CAMPUS ITSELF, AND CREATE JUST A MORE HOLISTIC ENVIRONMENT BY PROVING SOME SPACES THAT ARE EXISTING ON THE CAMPUS.

THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT WAS SCRAPPED.

PROBABLY VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS SO THAT WE USED TO PLAN

THE PROJECT. >> WANT TO PARTNER WITH ISDN HAVE A RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD B, BE 50-50.

IT IS A CHILDREN, EDUCATION AND WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS AND I WAS ACTUALLY SUPPORTING IT, I THOUGHT THEY WOULD INVEST MONEY IN EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN. WHAT LOOKS LIKE TO ME NOW, IT'S

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BECOME, WE NEED MORE PARKING SPACES SO WE CAN HOLD BIGGER EVENTS. CAN I FINISH?

>> I'M SORRY. >> THANK YOU.

WE WILL PUT IN A PRACTICE FIELD AND JUST GO AHEAD AND DO AWAY WITH AN ART CENTER.> I'M SORRY, IT WAS LOST IN DISCUSSION. AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD TO SUBMIT OUR SEP FOR LANDSCAPE AND PARKING THAT WAS REQUESTED. THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE WILL ADD.

THIS PHASE 2 THAT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TWO PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION.

PHASE 1, RETROFITS AND UPDATES ALL OF THE FIRE ALARM SAFETY SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CAMPUS.

THE CAMPUS HAS BEEN ADDED ONTO SEVERAL TIMES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FIREBOMBS ISN'T AS SOLID AS IT USED TO BE. PHASE 1 IS TO UPDATE FIRE ALARMS, CLASS, BELLS AND PA SYSTEM.

PHASE 2 IS ACTUALLY BUILDING AND THUS WE SEE IN THE ISLAND AREA IN RED IN THE DIAGRAM. WE ARE GOING TO -- THIS SMALL BLOCK, BOX OR THERE WILL BE AN ORCHESTRA ROOM.

WHERE WE INCREASE THE FINE ARTS CAPACITY FOR THE ORCHESTRA

PROGRAM. >> IS THAT JUST A RETROFIT OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? IT IS NOT BRAND-NEW

CONSTRUCTION. >> BRAND-NEW BUILDING.

THE SQUARE IS A BRAND-NEW BUILDING, FOR ORCHESTRA.

WE ARE GOING TO UPDATE AND RENOVATE THE EXISTING BAND HALL TO EXPAND INTO THE CHOIR AREA. BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST BANDS IN THE AREA. THIS SPACE RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE A TWO-STORY ADDITION, FINE ARTS ADDITION THAT WILL HOUSE CHOIR AND ADDITIONAL FINE ARTS PRACTICE ROOMS AND SUCH.

ACKAGE TO IS TO REALLY STRENGTHEN OUR FINE ARTS DEPARTMENT. PACKAGE THREE, WHICH IS NOT FUNDED OUT, ONE OF THE THINGS PRESENTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, PACKAGE THREE WILL THEN IDENTIFY AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY RETROFIT, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE REST OF THE CAMPUS.

TO INCLUDE THE AUTO MECHANICS SHOP IN THE BACK, TO BRING THAT UP TO CURRENT TIMES. AND GIVE OUR STUDENTS OPPORTUNITIES TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND GO QUICKLY INTO FIELD OF AUTO MECHANICS. ALSO GOING TO ADD IN AN ADDITIONAL WELDING AREA FOR THE WELDERS AND GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO GRADUATE AND MOVE INTO ORGANIZATIONS.O INCREASE THAT BUT ALSO, TO ADD IMPROVEMENTS TO HEALTH SAFETY CLASSES AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUILDING.

THE BIG PICTURE, IT'S A THREE-PHASE PROJECT.

BUT THIS ONE RIGHT NOW, IT IS FOR THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS IN THIS SECTION HERE.

OUR SEP WAS TO TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPE AND PARKING SPACES.

>> I KNOW IS NOT PART OF THIS, BUT IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PLAN I'M THINKING TO MAYBE CONTRACT AT LEAST DURING THE START AND THE END OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT PUTTING OUT THE EMAIL SAYING THIS WILL HAVE FOR 18 MONTHS.

>> BEHIND THE SCENES WE'VE DONE THAT.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT THE INTERNAL POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO COMMUNICATION WITH THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THEM AWARE AND WE KNOW WE MAY HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC MONITORS, PEOPLE TO HELP THE TRAFFIC ALONG THOSE AREAS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT WILL BE AN ADJUSTMENT.

>> JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION ORDER, ON AN SEP STIPULATIONS, NOT TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, MOST PEOPLE HATE THEM BECAUSE YOU ASK FOR ONE THING AND PEOPLE START GETTING CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS AND START PILING ON OTHER THINGS.

>> SUPS ARE FLEXIBLE. WE TELL HIM WE WANT A CERTAIN COLOR THEY WILL SEE YOU CAN'T MAKE US DO THAT AND THEN WE SAY IF YOU WANT THIS YOU HAVE TO DO THIS.

MOST PEOPLE TRY TO DO THINGS WITHOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST

A POINT. >> IS A GOOD POINT.

COUNCILMAN CLARK AND WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE SAFE INGRESS AND EGRESS, THOSE

CONVERSATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> I FELT LIKE THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

[LAUGHTER] >> WE ARE JUST GETTING

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STARTED. >> BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ORDINANCE. I HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE ARE PROVING. I GET THE GIST OF IT.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK TO THAT. OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> HAVE ONE COMMENT. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THE MAYOR OFTEN HAS DIFFERENT VIEWS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. I DO NOT VIEW THE ISD THE SAME AS THE DEVELOPER. WE ADD THE HOMES, WE ADD THE STUDENTS, THAT IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL DOES.

WE ADD THE ROOFTOPS, THAT PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE ISD.

AND THEN, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT TRAFFIC PATTERNS WE WERE GOING TO TEAR UP THREE SETS OF 1660 ALL AT ONCE, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT OBTUSE. THROWING STONES IN A GLASS HOUSE IS NEVER A GOOD THING. THE ISD DOESN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO TURN STUDENTS AWAY. LIKE WE CAN TURN A DEVELOPER AWAY. SO, TO TREAT YOU TO THE SAME, DOESN'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT IN MY BRAIN.

AND THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT MENTALITY AWAY, THE BETTER I THINK THAT OUR AGREEMENT AND CONVERSATIONS WILL BE.

DO I THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD JUST BE HANDED TO THE ISD? NOT SAYING THAT. BUT TO HOLD EACH OF THE SAME STANDARDS AS A DEVELOPER AND TO CONTINUALLY KEEP MAKING THE COMPARISON WHEN WE IN FACT, ARE THE ONES ADDING THE BREAD INTO THE ISD, DOESN'T SEEM FAIR. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT SENTIMENT WITH YOU. AND MOVING FORWARD, --

>> THANK YOU. I AGREE.

ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE MADE OF THE P&Z COMMISSION, WAS THAT WE HAD A TIMELY RESPONSE. WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ON A CAMPUS OF THIS SIZE, AT ANY CAMPUS REALLY, IT DISRUPTS DAY-TO-DAY LEARNING DISRUPTS LEARNING INTO THING IT DOESN'T, IT WOULD BE UNWISE. CURRENTLY, WE HAD TO RELOCATE SEVERAL PROGRAMS OF THAT BUILDING.

TO WORK IN IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE DEMOLITION AND DUST AND NOISE AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE TIMELY DISCUSSIONS, AND EFFICIENT DECISIONS.

BECAUSE THE LONGER IT TAKES, THE LONGER THEY ARE DISPLACED.

FROM THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY SHOULD BE IN.

THANK YOU FOR THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

>> NO OBJECTIONS, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

10:18 PM, IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS EASY.

WE ARE CLOSING AT 10:18 PM. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? DID WE FIND AN ORDINANCE?

>> THERE IS NO ORDINANCE IN THIS.

>> WE WOULD NEED A SECOND MEETING ON THIS.

SAME AS THE OTHER ONE. TABLE IT, GET THE ORDINANCE.

>> ANY CONDITIONS WANT TO ADD? >> START AND END TIMES, THE DAY OFF, THE TRAFFIC PLAN TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING WHILE THE NOT ALLOWING ANYTHING ON CHRIS KELLY. REALLY DO THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK ABOUT LOOKING INTO CHRIS KELLY WITH THE DROP-OFFS FOR STUDENTS CAN BE OPEN DURING THE CONSTRUCTION TIME.

SINCE YOU WON'T HAVE PARKING THERE WILL BE NO REASON WE JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO LOWER THE SCHOOL LONG TIME ON CHRIS KELLY WHICH WE COMING IN VERY SOON.

THAT FURTHER, THE REASON THEY CLOSED IT WAS SO THAT THE TRAFFIC SPEED WAS TOO FAST ON CHRIS KELLY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TURNING AND TURNING OUT. HAT'S WHY THEY DID THAT.

NOW THEY LOWERED THE SPEED LIMIT, THERE'S NO REASON IN MY

MIND THAT SHOULDN'T BE OPEN. >> AND TO HIS POINT, FOR DEVELOPMENT, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO REMODEL AND PARKING IN ALL OF THIS, GENERALLY, WHAT WOULD TRIGGER SOME TO DO AN UPDATED TIA AND BE REVIEWED AND FIND OUT WHAT IMPACT THEY ARE HAVING ON WHATEVER IT IS THEY ARE DOING.

>> IF IT'S FOR THE EXISTING CHILDREN THERE IS NO CHANGE.

THUS WE ARE LOOKING AT. MAYBE A GENERATION CHANGE BECAUSE OF STADIUM THAT'S WHY WANT TO LOOK BACK AT THE STADIUM. I THINK THAT WE GOT A STATEMENT

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AT THE TIME. >> I THINK HE WAS READING IT

BACK THEN. >> I WAS READING IT BACK THEN.

>> AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE THE EXPANSION IS GOING TO INCREASE THE OVERALL TRAFFIC.

THEY ARE ALREADY ON CAMPUS. >> IF SOMEONE WERE TO ASK IF A VOTE WERE TO COME OUT THAT THEY HAD, LET'S SAY FOUND OUT NO TIA HAD BEEN DONE IN 10 YEARS BUT IT DID INCREASE IN THE STADIUM, IF SOMEONE WERE TO MAKE IT, THE MOTION AND IT PASSED THAT ISD HAS TO DO AN UPDATED TIA AND SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND BASICALLY, BEING OUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD I GUESS, TYPICALLY HAPPEN, IF YOU GOING TO DO EXPANSION OF THE STADIUM OR GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE TRIPS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT ANYWAY. AND I GUESS, SHOULDN'T THEY DO THAT FOR THE TOTAL BUILDOUT OF THE SCHOOL SO THAT THEY COULD START PLANNING AND WILL KNOW WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN,

>> IF THEY KNOW THE TOTAL BUILDOUT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE CONTEND WITH IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE AND IT WILL CHANGE IT BASED ON FUNDING AND OTHER THINGS. WE COULD DO PIECEMEAL AND I THINK THIS WE BEEN DOING. WE HAVE HAD ABOUT EVERY SIX

MONTHS. >> ARE REALLY NOT CONCERNED FOR THE EIGHT EVENTS, AND THE STADIUM, EXTRA VERSUS THE MAX CAPACITY OF THE HOSPITAL, I WOULD IMAGINE IN THE INITIAL TIA WE CAN ONLY HOLD A MAXIMUM OF 3000 STUDENTS, AT THE SITE.

IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE MAX DECISION AT THE TIME, THEN THAT IS PROBABLY FINE. MY ISSUE IS JUST, CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION IS PART OF THE PLANET CAN'T JUST BE LIKE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE DRIVE FURTHER.

>> I JUST THINK THE REASON THEY DIDN'T DO THAT IS BECAUSE THE BACKUP AND THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT CAN FIT INSIDE OF THE PARKING AND COMING ONTO COSTUME LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, HE COULD POTENTIALLY FIT PROBABLY 45 CARS AND NOT LINE ESSENTIALLY VERSUS IF YOU'RE ONLY USING AROUND ABOUT IT WOULD BE LIKE 10. SO, IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC MORE INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT ITSELF AND USUALLY PARK MYSELF AS A ROUNDABOUT, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET A MAXIMUM OF 10 --

>> AND NOTHING ONLY FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.

EMILY'S SAME RIGHT NOW THE WAY TO SCHOOL IS THROUGH CARL STERN. THROUGH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, WHENEVER AND WAS TRYING TO GET OUT RIGHT, TO GET TO FRONT

STREET. >> I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY BAD BUT AS FAR AS WHY THEY POTENTIALLY USE THAT ROUTE VERSUS THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT MAKES MORE

SENSE -- >> IS THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT. THE TIA WILL DETERMINE BOUNDARY AND IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED AS RESULT OF PROJECTED TRAFFIC.

IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE SITE IS TO BE MULTI-PHASED, ALL ASSOCIATED FACILITIES WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE TIA.

SOMEONE HAS GOT TO PLAN BECAUSE PIECEMEAL IS WHAT WE GET STUCK WITH AND THAT IS NOT WHAT, WHETHER WE AGREE, AND JUST ASKING PEOPLE TO FILE THE AGREEMENT EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF ABOUT A PHASING PLAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES WILL BE PROPOSED BY THE DISTRICT WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE TIA AND AFFECT TRANSPORTATION BASED ON DISTRICT TRAFFIC CONSISTENT WERE HAVING ISSUES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT WILL MAKE IT RUN BETTER, BUT THIS PROBLEM CALLED SYNCHRO YOU COMPLETE INFORMATION AND ANNUAL TELL YOU EVERYTHING IS GOING TO FLOW AND YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT WORKS AND DOESN'T. THAT'S WHY KEEP GOING, YOU CALL ME OR WHATEVER. WE JUST WON'T HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS AND WE WON'T, WE HAVE DATA AND STATISTICS.

>> THAT THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD.

COUNCILWOMAN KENZIE'S POINT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO STOCK MORE VEHICLES IN THIS EASTERN PARKING LOT FOR STUDENT DROP-OFF AND PICKUP, FOR PARENTS COMING IN.

THE ACCESS POINT WILL BE ON THE SIDE AS ALLOWABLE WITH PROPER

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MONITORING ALLOWING STUDENTS INGRESS AND EGRESS HERE.

THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S COMING ON IN THE BAND AREA FOR BAND PRACTICES AND THE LIKE. BUT WHAT YOU SAID WAS ACCURATE, THEY WILL BE MORE AVAILABILITY TO STACK VEHICLES IN THIS AREA HERE. BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE 10.1 AND DIRECT STAFF TO BRING

BACK AN ORDINANCE. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOUR HONOR, BUT IF WE TABLE THIS AND DELAY DECISION ON APPROVING THIS SEP, IT DELAYS OUR PROJECT.

>> WE CAN'T APPROVE IT TONIGHT SARAH.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AND WE NEED A SECOND

READING. >> NO ORDINANCE WRITTEN.

AND SO AGAIN, I GET IN TROUBLE FOR TREATING IT LIKE A

DEVELOPER BUT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF P&Z LAST WEEK SPENDING TWO AND HALF HOURS OF IT APPEARS HE WAS TO PUT SUBMITTAL IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TO BE ACCEPTED. CHRIS IS A PROBABLY SHOULD'VE HAD AN ORDINANCE. IT'S A PROBLEM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> HOME, HERE, WORK, WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ORDINANCES BUT YOU HEARD EARLIER, I DON'T LOOK FOR THINGS THAT NEVER SEE BECAUSE YOU GET SURPRISED LATER ON.

A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL STAFF BRINGS BACK THE ORDINANCE WITH A COUPLE THINGS ADDED TO IT.

WE'VE GOT TO REPLANT FOR THE SEP, REPLANT THE TREES THAT

HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN, >> I CAN ANSWER TO TREES CUT

DOWN AND WHY. >> YOU HAVE THE ANSWER.

I'M IN AN SEP CAN MAKE YOU GUYS PAINTED BUILDING PINK.

>> AM SORRY YOU WOULD GO THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT

HOW I STARTED THE CONVERSATION. >> I JUST WANT THE TREES.

>> WERE ADDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREES.

>> THERE ARE THINGS IN THE PLAN THAT DON'T EXIST RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A STOPPER THERE.'M ASKING YOU TO PUT THE TREES UP PREVIOUSLY PLANT THAT DIED THAT ARE NO LONGER

THERE AND YOU GUYS CUT DOWN. >> AND WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ALLOWS ITSELF TO BUDGET FOR THOSE AND TO HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO THAT, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

BUT JUST RESISTING TREES THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE SUBMITTAL,

I DON'T -- >> MST FOR EXISTING TREES ALREADY APPROVED THAT SHOULD BE THERE.

MAY I FINISH THE MOTION OR OTHERWISE I WAS A MOTION TO DENY AND MAYBE GET THE VOTES. > I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK

YOU. >> IF I COULD JUST DO MY JOB

AND FINISH MY MOTION. >> YES SIR.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS. THERE ARE LIKE FOUR TREES.

IF WE NEED TO DO A FUNDRAISER I'LL HELP YOU GUYS.

I'M NOT TALKING MAJOR EXPENSES HERE.

PLANT THE TREES THAT ARE CUT DOWN A LONELY DRIVE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. COME UP WITH A TRAFFIC MITIGATION. I DON'T HOW TO PUT THIS IN THERE TO REQUIRE SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION, THEN A COMPLETED TIA WITH PLAN OF ACTION ON IMPROVEMENTS.

>> MAYOR, I THINK EACH OF THE ADS WOULD NEED TO BE SEPARATE BECAUSE IF YOU GOING TO ROLL THEM ALL INTO ONE MOTION, THAT WOULD FORCE US TO MAKE A DECISION.

WE MAY BE OKAY WITH ONE BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

>> WE CAN DO FOR SPREADING THE SECOND.

YOU COULD AMEND TO TAKE AN ITEM OUT AND IF THE VOTE ALLOWS IT

TO COME OUT, THEN IT IS OUT. >> I JUST --

>> IS THAT A SECOND TO HAVE A DISCUSSION? ANYBODY? NO ONE HAS TO SECOND ME.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> SECOND, DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE GOING FOR IT JUST MEANS DISCUSSION.

MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SNYDER, MAYOR SNYDER TO TABLE THIS.

UNTIL STAFF CAN BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE.

WITH SOME KIND OF DEAL ABOUT PLANTING THREE OR FOUR TREES CUT DOWN, TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN AND TIA FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

>> WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE?> TIA COMPLETE? WITH PLAN OF ACTION WITH THE CITY FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

>> REQUIRE REPLANTING OF THE TREES THAT ARE MISSING.

I THOUGHT THE SECOND ONE WAS TRAFFIC.

>> TRAFFIC MITIGATION. >> DURING CONSTRUCTION.

>> THE THIRD ONE, TO DO -- >> COMPLETE TIA.

>> NOT A NEW ONE. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ONE.

TO COMPLETED AND THEN EVENTUALLY STAFF, WHAT IT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WHICH I THINK THEY HAD TO DO ANYWAY. IF THEY DID IT FOR THE STADIUM, THEN WE HAVE THE PLAN OF ACTION.

>> ACTUALLY, HOW LONG DOES THE TIA TAKE? MAYBE FOR STARTED KIND OF IN THE BEGINNING, WHAT ARE WE

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LOOKING AT? >> I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO PROBABLY HAVE A SCOPING, JUST TOED OUT TO THE MAYOR! AND THEN WE CAN GET THAT REVIEWED.

TYPICALLY, ONE THIRD PARTY. USUALLY WE ARE GETTING

RESPONSES BACK. >> 15 OR 50?

>> 15. >> 15, OKAY.

>> THE SCHOOL YEAR, NOT THE SUMMER, RIGHT? WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED HERE? DURING THE SUMMER ANYTIME OF

THE YEAR? >> TYPICALLY DON'T DO THEM DURING THE SUMMER. NOT THAT WE CAN'T BUT TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT THE SAME. -- NOBODY WAS IN SCHOOL, WE'RE GETTING DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WENT TO HISTORIC NUMBERS.

I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE AN ISSUE ON THIS ONE.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE? AGAIN, ITEMS CAN COME BACK, WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN

ALWAYS TAKE SOMETHING OUT. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. MEANING, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEPARATE VOTES ON THE THREE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE MAIN TABLE MOTION SO WE CAN VOTE ON EACH OF THOSE SEPARATELY.

>> I AGREE. >> I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE THROWING SOMETHING IN THAT IS NOT PART OF -- TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. THE TREES THAT THEY PROPOSED A YEAR AGO ARE NOT IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

>> I MEAN, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, I'M TRYING TO REALLY KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THIS. UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

WHEN I DROPPED MY KIDS OFF SOMETIMES IT TAKES ME AN HOUR, AND I WAS ABLE TO GET IN, THAT'S THE WAY DROPPED THEM OFF. AND -- I SHARE THE FRUSTRATION OF JUST GET AN EMAIL, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING IN ADVANCE.

I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR FOR US TO LUMP IN ALL OF THESE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, WHEN WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS THIS RIGHT HERE.

>> IF WE ARE OKAY, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT?

>> I THINK THE REQUEST IS DIVIDED.

HE WOULD VOTE ON THAT FIRST. VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT

TO DIVIDE. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON DIVIDING THE QUESTION? ANY DISCUSSION?

>> IS THERE A WAY TO FIND OUT WHEN THE LASTACTUAL TIA WAS DONE ? I KNOW THAT IS A BIG ASK, SO NO, THERE'S REALLY NO BECAUSE -- QUICKLY JUST WASN'T PROVIDED

SO WE CAN TELL YOU. >> OKAY.

I'LL BE SURPRISED THE NORTH GRADE CENTER LOST A WHOLE GRADE

BUT ADDED SO IT'S HARD TO SAY. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE ON T DIVIDING THIS QUESTION.

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. UNCHARTED TERRITORY FOR ME.

>> THEY ARE JUST INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS.

JUST VOTE ONE, TWO, THREE. >> MOTION TO REQUIRE

REPLANTING -- >> I THINK FIRST WE HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION WE ARE TABLING IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT TABLING IT THEN IT CHANGES THE WHOLE THING, RIGHT? THE OTHER THREE DON'T GET ADDED. ASSOCIATE TABLES 1ST THEN IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL THINGS, IS THAT NOT THE RIGHT WAY?

>> THE THREE THAT YOU ADDED, WAS LIKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO TABLE. WASN'T IT?

>> YES. >> THAT'S FIRST.

>> GO DOWN INTO ONE, TWO, THREE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE WAS TRAFFIC MITIGATION DURING CONSTRUCTION.

>> REPLACE EXISTING TREES. >> MOTION --

>> YOU ARE GOOD! >> MOTION TO DIRECT -- [INAUDIBLE] MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO ADD IN REQUIREMENT TO REPLACE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN OR DIED.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THORTON.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> I WENT.

YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE FOUR TREES CUT DOWN.

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WHERE? BECAUSE IF THEY ARE ALREADY IN LOCATIONS WHERE THEY WILL BE PUTTING NEW TREES,

>> OR DURING CONSTRUCTION. >> JUST A MINUTE.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUT IN THE BECAUSE THE TREES WILL NOT BE PLANTED UNTIL AFTER ALL CONSTRUCTION IS DONE.

THAT PART DOESN'T MATTER. I'M SAYING IF THE FOUR ARE GETTING, ARE DEAD WHERE THEY WILL NOT BE A PARKING LOT, THEN THOSE WILL BE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

OR IF THEY ARE IN THE AREA WITHOUT REPLANTING THE NEW TREES, THEN WE DON'T NEED, WE WILL ADD FOUR MORE.

CAN YOU SHOW ON THE MAP WHERE THEY ARE?

>> WHAT I LIKE TO DO, LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPER DO, IF MOTION PASSES THEY CAN COME BACK AND TELL US THIS PARTICULAR TREE HERE, WE WILL PUT PARKING THERE.

WE ARE FLEXIBLE WITH EVERYTHING.

I DON'T THINK IS A ME TO WALK THERE SITE AND SAY ALL THESE TREES THAT ARE DEAD IN EVERYTHING, CAN YOU REPLACE THIS ONE AND, THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF SURVEY AS TO WHAT THEY'VE GOT. AN ARCHITECT AND A GUY AND HE THINGS ONLY EVER SEE IS HERE IS A NEW PLAN.

I DON'T EVEN SEE THE OVERLAY WITH THE OLD WORDS.

THEY CAN LEAVE IT TO ME TO MAKE A DECISION AND IT WILL BE A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION NEEDED.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO THAT DIRECTION.

>> I DIDN'T WRITE THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> IS KIND OF YOUR FORTE. >> ANYWAY, I TRIED TO HELP HENRY ALONG AND IT DIDN'T WORK. I THINK MARK WILL BE A LOT MORE WORKABLE PEER MOTION IS TO DO THAT AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THEY SHOW SOME KIND OF THING WHERE THERE TREES CUT DOWN AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE REPLACED. I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADJUSTING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE I WANT MAKE THEM PLANT A TREE THAT WILL

TEAR UP IN SIX MONTHS. >> IN ALL FAIRNESS, HE MADE THE COMMENT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK THE PROPERTY AND POINT OUT WHAT TREES ARE DEAD BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE

DOING. >> I HAD TWO KIDS I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE. AND EVERY TIME I GO TO THE SOCCER GAME OR FOOTBALL GAME, I LOOK AROUND AND I JUST SEE TREES MISSING. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TREE CANOPY LIKE EVERY EIGHT FEET SUPPOSED TO BE A TREE PLANTED AND WHEN YOU GO AND SEE ONE AND YOU SEE A STUMP IN THE STUMP AND YOU SEE A STOP, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT OUR STUFF, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT -- THE STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB BECAUSE OF ANOTHER PERSON OPERATING A BUSINESS AND THEIR TREE DIED THE CITY WILL COME DOWN AND TELL THEM, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREE BECAUSE YOUR PERMIT IS

CONTINGENT ON THAT TREE.>> MAYOR?

>> I HAVE TREE STUMPS IN MY YARD.

DO I NEED TO REPLANT THEM? I'M OVER THIS.

>> THE MANAGER IS REQUESTING TO SPEAK.

>> MAYOR, FMA. THERE IS A RECORD OF PREVIOUS PERMITS, SEP, SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THEY CAN EASILY DO AN AUDIT WHAT PLANTINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE AND CHANCES ARE THEY PROBABLY KNOW MOST OF THE TREES WHERE THEY ARE. THEN THEY CAN SIMPLY EASILY RESPOND. I REALLY DON'T THINK IS OVERLY COMPLICATED, IT DOES REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT OF ADDITIONAL EFFORT, OTHER THAN JUST THE TIME AND ENERGY TO GO DO A QUICK INVENTORY, REVERSES WHAT IS PERMITTED.

>> THE SERVER THAT THEY HAD TO DO PROBABLY REALLY HAS IT.

>> PROBABLY THAT TOO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY AMEND THE WORDING OF THE MOTION OR REQUEST REWORDING OF INSTEAD OF SAYING REQUIRING THAT THEY REPLANT THE TREES THAT HAVE DIED, SAY THAT BY THE TIME THEY COME TO THE NEXT MEETING THAT THEY HAVE AN INVENTORY AND PRESENTATION, HERE THE TREES ARE DARK, ARE THE ONES WE CANNOT REPLACE ANYWAY BECAUSE IT WILL BE APARTMENT HERE THE ONES THAT WE WILL REPLACE ALREADY ANYWAY. THEN HERE'S THE RANGER.

MY PREFERRED WORDING WOULD BE THAT WE REQUEST THEY DO THE INVENTORY AND PREPARE FOR NEXT TIME AND PRESENT TO US.

>> REQUEST INVENTORY AND HOW ABOUT, REQUEST INVENTORY AND PLANT THAT WHICH WOULD STILL BE THERE AFTER PROPOSED

IMPROVEMENTS. >> SURE.

>> A-OKAY WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER THORTON?

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> A WAY TO WORK IT OUT, THANK YOU. MOTION BY MAYOR SLATER, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THORTON WITH HELP OF MAYOR PRO TEM IS FOR EYES TO THE COME BACK WITH INVENTORY OF THEIR TREES AND WE HAVE THE REPLACING TREES THAT ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE AFTER THE IMPROVEMENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO WEAR THAT BUT THAT'S THE POINT, RIGHT?

>> YET. >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE

THE VOTE? >> SURE.

>> BASED ON THE PRESENTATION WE WERE GIVEN LAST YEAR AND

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WHAT I'VE SEEN TODAY, MY VOTE WILL BE BASED ON THAT.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS A DISCREPANCY FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION TO WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I WILL GO STUDY WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 5-2. NEXT MOTIONS OF THE CUMMAQUID TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN FOR THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? >> I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO GAIN BY THAT? IF THERE TALKING TO THE HUTTO ISD IN CONVERSATIONS WITH POLICE, WHAT EXPERTISE ARE WE BRINGING TO THE TABLE? WHAT ARE WE DOING? JUST KIND OF SAYING, THANKS FOR GETTING IT APPROVED?OR I

MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> ARE WE ADDING THIS TO THE SEP RIGHT? AS ANOTHER CRITERIA?

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> YES AND THINGS LOOKING FOR EXPERTISE FROM US. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT I VIEW IS, THERE IS POTENTIAL ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION AS A RESULT OF CONSTRUCTION AND IN THIS TRAFFIC LITIGATION PLAN, THERE WILL BE CONDUCTED BY SOME PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL SUSAN A WAY THAT WOULD WORK THE BEST IN TERMS OF HOW THE TRAFFIC WILL FLOW DURING CONSTRUCTION. WHERE IS POTENTIALLY RIGHT NOW, THE IDEA IS THAT SOMEONE JUST CLOSED DOWN SOME DRIVEWAYS, AND

WE ARE DEALING WITH BACKUP. >> RIGHT BECAUSE IF THAT MAY BE THE BEST SOLUTION BUT IT MAY BE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE ISD MAY HAVE TO PAY PART-TIME TO THE CITY POLICE TO BE TRAFFIC COPS. OUT ON THESE INTERSECTIONS WHEN THEY'RE GETTING IN AND OUT OF SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW THERE AT THAT 9 O'CLOCK START TIME AND 4:30 PM OUT TIME. THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING.

AND IN TURN ALSO HOW THEY WANT CARS TO GO FIND BUT THEN, THEY MAY HAVE TO DO SOME MITIGATION OFF-SITE.

AND WE'VE DONE THIS WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS, WAIVE CLOSED WAS FROM DURANGO SO CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS COULDN'T COME THROUGH PETERSON ON ORDINANCE BERNARD. I THINK WE NOT DOING THE CITIZENS A SERVICE, IF WE DON'T SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE IS MITIGATING THE MOST. WHEN I GOT THIS EMAIL AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS THE WORST WAY I COULD HAVE THOUGHT FOR TRAFFIC OFF-SITE FOR PEOPLE NOT GOING TO THE SCHOOL TRYING TO GET

THROUGH. >> WAS THE BEST WAY AND THE

WORST WAY? >> I THINK THIS MAY BE BUT EVEN ACTUAL TRAFFIC COP DIRECTING TRAFFIC BECAUSE IS NOT CONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS, THEIR FOUR-WAY STOPS.

YOUR PEOPLE COME TO THE FOREST OF CHOICE TO DROP OFF AND COME BACK OUT. IT IS THROUGH THE WORST TRAFFIC INTERSECTION WE HAVE. AND I THERE WILL BE, IF IT WAS ONLY OVER SUMMER I WOULDN'T CARE.

>> I JUST HOPE THAT HAVE THE SAME DILIGENCE WHEN WE DO ALL THIS. WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME CRITERIA THAT WE ARE BASICALLY, IN THE WAY OF BONDS AND BUDGETS. WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN REQUIREMENT? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 6-1. THE LAST REQUIREMENT MOTION TO HAVE THEM COMPLETE A TIA AND WORK WITH THE CITY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN OF ACTION FOR IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED.

>> MY QUESTION IS TO ASHLEY. >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE NEED A SECOND TO DISCUSS IT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> YES I WILL SECOND. DO YOU THINK IT IS WARRANTED

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THAT WE NEED A TIA AT THIS TIME, BASED ON, BECAUSE YOU WENT TO THE PLAN WITH THE STADIUM BEFORE A YEAR AGO.

THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS FOR THE BUILD OUT OF ALL PHASES, I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHAT

COUNSEL WANTS. >> I'M ONLY ASKING WAS IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> YOU WANT TO REQUIRE THAT TO BE COMPLETED --

>> I WANT, I THINK CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR THE START BUT TO GET A CO OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT MET,

RIGHT? >> YES, WE CAN DO IT PRIOR TO

THE CO. >> I'M OKAY WITH THAT JUST SOMETHING AS A TRIGGER SOMEBODY.

>> A THING HAS TO HAPPEN, IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED PRIOR BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY YOU GOTTA WAIT MONTHS TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE YOU CAN START. YOU CANNOT GET THE CO IT'S A

WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. >> THAT'S NOT FAIR, I WOULDN'T

DO THAT TO ANYBODY. >> OKAY.

IT IS OPEN ENDED. >> A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

>> A TIA. IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NO TIMELINE

TO IT. >> THEY CAN START USING THE IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL THEY GET THE CO.

>> OKAY. >> IS MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

>> IT GIVES THEM TIME TO DO IT. >> 18 MONTHS OR SOMETHING.

THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION PHASE AND EVERYTHING IS 18 MONTHS YOU

SAID. >> APPROXIMATELY.

>> THEY CAN COMPLETE THAT AND COME UP WITH A PLAN.

>> AND IN THAT TIMEFRAME GET APPROVAL AND COME UP WITH A

LIST TO BRING BACK TO SHOW. >> WOULD THAT BE SKEWED BY THE

CONSTRUCTION -- >> NO BECAUSE IT'S ON ADJACENT STREETS. I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE SKEWED. THEY WILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT

OF KIDS. >> TRIPS GENERATED.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, TIAS ARE DEALING WITH CHANGES TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE AT THAT LOCATION.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD SAY, ANOTHER WING AND BRING THE NINTH GRADERS OVER, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER FLOOR BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING 1500 MORE STUDENTS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF GROWTH. THAT'S WHAT THE TIAS DO.

ENHANCING SERVICES AVAILABLE ON-SITE, NOT REALLY CHANGING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO THE SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW THE BUILD OUT IS THE BUILD UP.

UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THEY ADD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WOULD ALLOW MORE STUDENTS. BUT THE ISSUE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE CURRENT FLOW, ABSOLUTELY, THAT WAS APPROVED ONE OF THE ORIGINAL TIA IS DONE AND OF COURSE, IT AFFECTS THE REST OF THE ROADS AROUND THE SCHOOL.

O, ON THAT REQUEST, IT IS LITTLE DIFFERENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ARE, BY CLOSING ENTRANCES AND FORCING PATTERNS TO CHANGE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE AN ANALYSIS.

GENERALLY WILLING TO PRODUCE A BASIC PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DIDN'T ALREADY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WE'VE ENGINEERED TO A TRAFFIC PLAN TO DETERMINE THAT EXACT TYPE OF STUFF. WHAT IS A TRAFFIC COUNT GOING TO BE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, CLOSURES, HOW DO WE HANDLE MOVING PEOPLE OFF THIS ROAD ONTO THAT ROAD, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S WHY WANTED TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE A DIRECT LINK HERE TO MAKING THIS TIA REQUIREMENT HAVING THE PROJECT ON BECAUSE IT'S NOT AT CAPACITY.

>> BUT IT IS FOR FUNDAL BUILDOUT.

>> WHAT IS THE COST ACTUALLY? >> A FINAL BILL THAT ONE

CHANGE IN NUMBER. >> IT WILL BECAUSE WHEN THIS WAS DONE IT WAS A THREE A HIGH SCHOOL.

ADDED NINTH GRADE WING, THEN THEY ORDER THE NINTH-GRADE WING AND MADE IT THE POLICE STATION. THEY COULD TURN AROUND THEY WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO AT SOME POINT, CREATE AN ISDN WILL TURN BACK INTO ANOTHER WING OF STUDENTS.

THAT WILL INCREASE IT AND NONE OF THAT WILL BE IN THE TIA ORIGINALLY DONE. DINNER AT A TWO-STORY BUILDING FOR THE THIRD PHASE WHEN I GET THE FUNDER THAT WAS PROBABLY NEVER CONTEMPLATED IN THE ORIGINAL TIA.

I HAVE A FEELING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, WE ANTICIPATE WHEN IT WAS DONE, ASSUME A MAX BUILDUP 3500 STUDENTS ON CAMPUS EVERY DAY. THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL BE THEN

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ONE. >> REMOVE THE ENTIRE NINTH

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GRADE. >> I'M NOT SEEING IT.

>> THE ONLY REASON I MADE THE DEAL IS BECAUSE PER OUR AGREEMENT, THE CITY SIGN AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS SIGNED, WE DOING A PHASING PROJECT, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO A TIA, THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON IT MITIGATION AND HOW WE WILL PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER IF WE JUST KEEP APPROVING IN ADDITION HERE A CHANGE HERE AND EXPANSION HERE, WHAT HAPPENS HERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT ROADS BACKING UP, WE'VE ALREADY MISSED OUR RIGHT TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? THEY DO WHAT HAPPENED -- YOU PUT THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET SO YOU PAY FOR THAT. THE WEATHER IT IS WRITTEN, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ALL THIS WORKED OUT BEFORE WE EVEN START ALL THE PHASING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE DO WHAT WE ALL SAY WHAT WE DO THEN WITH YOUR OBLIGATIONS WILL BE. I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND WIDEN ROADS. WE HAVE TO WORK THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE INFORMATION COME AT WORK WITH THE CITY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS WILL GO BUT HOW TO GET 4000 STUDENTS IN AND OUT OF HERE WITHOUT PEOPLE SCREAMING AT EVERYBODY THAT IT'S ALL BACKED UP. THAT'S ALL THIS IS.

IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE, WE MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE DO THIS.

WE ARE DOING TIAS, WITH SPEED LIMITS AND THINGS.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO, NOT TRYING TO STICK -- I DISAGREE. SOMETHING IS TIED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IF YOU WANT TO TIE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE IT

MAKES MORE SENSE. >> I'LL ASK A QUESTION OF WADE MAY BE, IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE COST OF A

TIA? >> ABOUT 30 OR 40 GRAND.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT MORE ARE WE TAKING ONTO THE ISD. ESSENTIALLY, IT IS THE SAME TAX

BASE. >> THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. IT VARIES DEPENDING --

>> I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT -- >> IT IS MORE THAN ZERO.

>> OKAY! [LAUGHTER]

THANK YOU. >> ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE

MOTION TO HAVE A TIA COMPLETED. >> WE NEED TO HAVE THIS

AMENDED. >> PRIOR TO THE CEO.

>> RIGHT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

NOW ADD IT TO THE ORDINANCE FOR TABLING? MOTION TO TABLE ORDINANCE ZERO Ã2022 Ã59 WITH ADDITION REQUIREMENTS FOR TREE REPLACEMENT AND TRAFFIC

MITIGATION MEASURES. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS NOT ANYTHING THE ISD DID OR DID WRONG JUST THE ORDINANCE AND WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET THE PAPERWORK TO REVIEW THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S THE REASON WHY.

>> ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MOTION, CANNOT DISCUSS BECAUSE

WE HAVE A SECOND. >> I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND READING REGARDLESS.

WE ARE NOT GETTING PAST TONIGHT ANYWAYS.

>> WE CAN DO THE SECOND READING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. NOTE THE CHANGE IN THE

TIMELINE. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE

TABLING WITH THE ADDITIONS? >> GIVE ME ONE SECOND, I'M CHECKING THE PACKET REAL QUICK. [INAUDIBLE] SORRY, I'M LOOKING

FOR THE ORDINANCE. >> IT SAYS IT'S NOT IN THERE.

>> IT IS, PAGE 81. >> 81.

WHAT PART OF THE PACKET IS THAT?

>> IS UNDER THE CAMERA UNDER 10.1 AGENDA ITEM REPORT.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 XX . >> 81 --

>> PAGE 81 IN THE PACKET. >> I AM ON PAGE 81 AND WE'VE GOT MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES.

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>> I WENT TO THE PACKET ON THE --

>> EITHER WAY, I THINK COUNCIL IS CONFUSED.

IT WOULD BEST TO TABLE AT THIS POINT.

>> MAYBE GOT ADDED AFTER THE FACT, WASN'T SENT TO US

ORIGINALLY. >> I LOOK AT THE ONLINE POSTED AGENDA. UNDER 10.1, IS THE SECOND ATTACHMENT. ORDINANCE MODIFICATIONS.

[INAUDIBLE] >> EITHER WAY, WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION ON HERE TO WAVE A SECOND READING,

>> WE DO NOT. >> ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON TABLING? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES. WE ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

[11.1. Presentation, discussion and possible action to accept the Wastewater Master Plan prepared by Garver, Resolution No. R-2022-111 (Wade Benton)]

>> WELCOME TO HUTTO. >> OKAY WHEN YOU'RE READY.

NEXT ITEM 11.1, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN PREPARED BY GARVER,RESOLUTION NO. R-2022-111 .

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE HAVE GOT, THE SON AND MAX ARE RELATED TO MASTER PLANNING FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES. BACK IN FEBRUARY, COUNCIL PROVED MOVING FORWARD WITH AN UPDATE TO THE EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS THAT WERE LESS COMPLETED IN 2018. IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, BASED ON SOME EARLY RESULTS FROM THOSE PLANS, WORKING WITH THE TEAMS WE DEVELOPED A CIP PLAN THAT YOU ALL APPROVED.

THEN IN OCTOBER, THE TEAMS PRESENT IN THE DRAFT MASTER PLANS, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IN WORKSHOP TOGETHER FEEDBACK.

SINCE THAT TIME THE TEAMS HAVE GONE BACK AND MADE THOSE UPDATES, REFINED THE PLANT AND PRESENTED THOSE FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, FOR ADOPTION.

I WANT TO ASK GARVER TO COME UP AND WALK THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THE PLAN. AND ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M WITH GARVER. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE WORK WITH YOUR STAFF IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS ON THIS WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. IT IS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE MASTER PLANS THAT HAVE WORKED ON IN MY CAREER.

LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IN THE FORM OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE READY TO GO.

IT REALLY HELPED US DRIVE A LOT OF THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND COME UP WITH WHAT I FEEL IS A VERY SOLID END RESULT.

IT REALLY QUICKLY, WE STARTED THE PROJECT WITH A QUICK BURN INITIAL COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE CREATED A GIS HYDRAULIC MODEL OF THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM, AND THAT WAS BASED ON A LOT OF THE GIS INFORMATION THAT WAS OUT THERE ABOUT THE NETWORK. WE LOADED IN THE LOADING INFORMATION AND PERFORMED A CALIBRATION TO GET INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE LIFT STATIONS AROUND THE SYSTEM.

BROUGHT THAT MODEL UP TO SPEED AND WE EMBARKED ON TWO PARALLEL PROCESSES. ONE WAS ADDRESSING THE BACKLOG OF SCR AND DEVELOPMENT REQUEST THAT HAD ACCUMULATE OVER TIME.

I THINK JULIE CAN CORRECT ME IF I GET THIS NUMBER ONLY THINK IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 30S . OR IT GOT THERE DURING THE

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PROCESS. WITH THE FUNCTIONAL MODEL AT THE BACKLOG OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS AND GETTING THIS OUT THE DOOR, WORKED WITH CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROCESS, TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE AND COMMUNICATE THE RESULTS AND FINDINGS BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS TO GET THE PROCESS GOING.

PARALLEL TO THAT, USING ESSENTIALLY THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE CHEWING THROUGH TO GO THEN AND APPLY THAT LENDS TO THE SYSTEM FOR MORE OF A LARGER SCALE PERSPECTIVE.

SEE HOW WATER IN THIS CASE WASTEWATER FLOWS TO THE SYSTEM AND DEVELOP A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE BEST WAY TO CAPTURE THAT FLOW AND BRING IT TO THE CITIES TO WASTEWATER PLANTS.

SO, THAT DID INCLUDE, TEXAS THE NEXT ITEMS THERE.

WE DID HAVE A FOCUS ON THE WASTEWATER PLANT, CENTRAL AND SOUTH PLANTS. DOING A TECHNOLOGY EVALUATION, COMING UP WITH A MASTER PLANNING LEVEL CONCEPT PLAN FOR HOW THOSE PLANTS WILL GROW OVER TIME WE'VE GOT SOME EXHIBITS TO SHOW ON THAT. THEN OF COURSE, IT ALL TRANSFERS INTO A CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AS WE MENTIONED, YOU APPROVED THE FIRST PARTS OF.

THIS IS A QUICK RECAP OF THE WASTEWATER FLOW PROJECTIONS OVER TIME, THIS IS A 24 TIME HORIZON PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL GROWTH IN TERMS OF LIVING EQUIVALENTS ON THE RIGHT. EVENTUALLY, A TOTAL SYSTEM WASTEWATER FLOW AROUND 17.6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IN THAT 25 -- [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS JUST A QUICK REMINDER, A GLIMPSE OF THE RELATIVE SERVICE AREAS. FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

WATER IS IN RED WASTEWATER IS IN BLUE.

ILLUSTRATING THE DIFFERENCE IN SIZE.

WE DID ALSO INCLUDE IN THE PLANNING EFFORTS, RECENTLY, AND NEXT IS THE RIGHT WORD, CCN, INC. CCN FROM THE GENERAL WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA TO THE NORTH.

THIS IS THE RESULT MAP, HOPEFULLY YOU GOT ON YOUR SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU THAT YOU CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS TOUGH TO SEE BUT AS YOU CAN TELL, THE TWO COLORS ON THIS MAP, YOU HAVE RED POLYGONS AND BLUE POLYGONS IN RED IS A LARGER AREA THAT SHOWS WHAT DRAINS THE SOUTH WASTEWATER PLANT, THAT IS THE PLANT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO SEE A LOT OF THE EXPANSION AND GROWTH OVER TIME AND CAPTURE A LOT OF THAT BY GRAVITY. THEN THE CENTRAL PLANT SERVES THE AREA IN BLUE. MORE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN.

I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN ON SOME OF THE HIGHEST PROFILE PROJECTS THAT WE ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN. AGAIN, ALL OF THE INFORMATION WAS COMING OUT OF OUR COORDINATION WITH EDC AND PLANNING GROUP AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEGA SITE IN PARTICULAR AS A CAMEO WHEN THE MORE HER PROFILE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN. THIS IS SORT OF A THREE STEP PROCESS TO ADDRESS WASTEWATER FLOWS IN THE MEGA SITE AND SOME OF THE ADJACENT AREAS. THE FIRST IS REALLY CONTROLLED BY NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE GROUND QUICKLY, WE HAVE A RELATIVELY SMALL LIFT STATION THAT WILL COLLECT SOME OF THE INITIAL FLOWS THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THE FIRST TENANTS IN THE MEGA SITE. AND WILL BE ROUTED THROUGH ROADWAYS THAT THE CITY LARGELY HAS CONTROL OVER THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SO, THAT IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO THESE PROJECTS TO HAVE DEDICATED ACCESS TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND NOT HAVING TO WAIT ON ANOTHER ENTITY OR PROPERTY ACQUISITION PROCESS TO GET TO THAT POINT AND SO, THAT IS A SET OF PROJECTS HERE, TO GET THAT SERVICE TO THE AREA KICK STARTED. FURTHER OUT INTO THE FUTURE, WE WILL, AS DEMANDS NEED ANALYZE THE AREA TO BUILD ORGANICALLY, ULTIMATELY, THERE ARE SOME GRAVITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO THE WEST TO BRING FLOWS BY GRAVITY DOWN TO THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR TO THE SOUTH PLANT.

AND ULTIMATELY OUT AS EITHER DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN THE SOUTHEAST LOOP AREA, AND EASEMENTS ARE ABLE TO BE OBTAINED BY THOSE DEVELOPERS OR IF THE COUNTY IS ABLE TO DEDICATE SPACE WITH IN THE FUTURE RIGHT AWAY.

ESTABLISHING A GRAVITY LINE DOWN TO THAT CORRIDOR WILL LEAVE THE STATION THE LIFT STATION WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST PHASE IS NOT FOR THE ULTIMATE FULL BUILDOUT OF THE PLANT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP, THIS WILL PICK UP THE REST OF IT AS A TIMING LINED UP.

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ULTIMATELY, THIS AS MENTION HERE, THE LIFT STATION WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED AND THEN FURTHER OUT, WE HAVE ANOTHER LINE COMING DOWN FROM THE NORTH. RIGHT NOW, ALL THE FLOW IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SYSTEM GETS COLLECTED IN A DAISY CHAIN OF LIFT STATIONS AND GETS PUMPED BACK AROUND TO THE WEST, THEN FLOWS DOWN TO THE GRAVITY SYSTEM.

THAT GOES AGAINST THE GRADE WHICH IS WHERE USING NATURAL FALL OF THE TERRAIN TO THE EAST AS EVIDENCED BY THE CREEKS AND STREAMS FLOWING IN THAT DIRECTION.

WE LIKE TO REVERSE THAT LONG-TERM GRAVITY BRINGS IT DOWN TO THIS LINE TO THE SOUTH PLANT.

THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR IS ANOTHER KEY PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. AT FINAL DESIGN.

IT IS CLOSE TO ENTERING CONSTRUCTION.

THAT WILL BE THE FIRST GRAVITY LINE TO GO TO THE SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLAN IS ALL PUMPED TO THAT WASTEWATER PLANT AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STEP IN CONVERTING THAT TO GRAVITY FLOW TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT. THIS ALLOWS US TO RELIEVE THE CENTRAL AND SOUTH PLANT SORT OF, THEY ARE ABLE TO RELIEVE EACH OTHER BY VIRTUE OF THE EXISTING LIFT STATION THERE.

AT THE TOP OF THIS INTERCEPTOR, WE CAN EITHER COME IN BASICALLY OPERATIONS STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE TO EITHER DIVERT FLOW DOWN THIS GRAVITY INTERCEPTOR TO THE SOUTH PLANT OR CAPTURED AND PUMP IT BACK UP TO CENTRAL. A WAY FOR US TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF EITHER OF THE TWO PLANTS, MANAGE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S AN OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY TOOL. AS I MENTIONED THAT PROJECT IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION SOON.

THE NEXT MAJOR PROJECT IS THE BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR.

THIS ONE AS THE NAME WOULD IMPLY, IS AN INTERCEPTOR THAT FOLLOWS BRUSHY CREEK UP TO THE ENCLAVE LIFT STATION CURRENTLY IS. THAT LIFT STATION IS, NOT IN GREAT SHAPE IS IN NEED OF SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.

ALSO THE LARGEST LIFT STATION CURRENTLY IN THE HUDDLE WASTEWATER SYSTEM AND SO, MAKING THE DECISION TO EITHER YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY PUT MORE MONEY INTO EXPANDING THAT LIFT STATION AND REHABILITATING IT, THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL AND OPERATIONAL COST TO DOING SO.

BASICALLY THIS CONCEPT IS SWITCHING THE WHOLE SYSTEM OVER TO GRAVITY SYSTEM THAT WOULD RELIEVE THAT LIFT STATION AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE PAST.

ESSENTIALLY OF ENCLAVE PUMPS INTO A FORSTMANN THE SEVERAL OTHER LIFT STATIONS MANIFOLD INTO ALONG THE WAY.

BY HAVING A SINGLE GRAVITY LINE, GET TO GET RID OF THE WHOLE CASCADING SERIES OF LIFT STATIONS, TAKE ALL THE PUMPS OFF-LINE AND FLOW EVERYTHING BY GRAVITY.

FOR MAINTENANCE AND THAT PERSPECTIVE IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. LOOKING AT THE COST ESTIMATE OVER FIVE YEARS, AGAIN, THIS KIND OF THE HIGHER CATEGORY OF PRIORITY OF PROJECTS. A LOT OF THE REASON WHY THESE PROJECTS ARE SHOWING A FIVE-YEAR PLAN IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TIED TO DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL, BY THE CITY AND THOSE ARE GETTING PROCESSED. THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY YOU SEE THIS ANTICIPATED DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION COLUMN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE DO THAT SER PROCESSED THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL EITHER DO THEMSELVES, AND THEM TURN OVER TO THEIR CITY, TO THE CITY WITH SOME REIMBURSEMENT AND CLASS PARTICIPATION BY THE CITY WILL CONTRIBUTE FUNDS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THAT.

DEPENDING ON HOW THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS PUT TOGETHER.

AND SO, A BIG PIECE OF THAT GOES INTO THE PIPELINE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE REALLY TRYING TO DIAL DOWN THE INVESTMENT IN LIFT STATIONS. AND THEN A BIG CHUNK OF THIS IS AS WE SAW IN THE FIRST OVERALL MAP WE SO THE BIG RED AREA, THERE IS A LOT OF FEATURE CAPACITY WILL BE GOING INTO THAT SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

PARTIALLY BECAUSE THAT PLANT HOLDS A PERMIT UP TO ABOUT 16 -- AND THAT IS PRETTY -- IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO GO UP TO THAT STAGE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND APPLY FOR NEW WASTEWATER PERMIT. WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INITIAL, I'LL TELL YOU I'LL GET TO THE EXPANSION PHASE IN A MINUTE.

THE CENTRAL PLANT IS A SMALLER PLANT WE LOOK AT INCREMENTAL

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INCREASES FOR THAT. WE ARE EVALUATING THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AS A FILTRATION METHOD ON THE BACK END OF THE BIOLOGICAL PROCESS FOR THAT PLANT.

AND SO, JUST TO GIVE A MORE COMPACT FOOTPRINT IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE STUDIED FURTHER AS THE DESIGN PROGRESSES.

LOOKING AT 10 YEARS. WE DO HAVE SOME MORE PIPELINE PROJECTS, THEN THE SOUTH WASTEWATER PLANT WILL TAKE ANOTHER EXPANSION STEP UP TO 12 MGD.

IN THE 25 YEAR HORIZON, AGAIN, ANOTHER STEP IN THE SOUTH PLANT EXPANSION UP TO 15 1/2. THAT IS THE ULTIMATE CAPACITY AND THEN TAKING THE CENTRAL PLANT UP TO 1.7 MGD.

LOOKING AT THAT SOUTH PLANT, AND I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BUSY WITH HIS GREEN VERTICAL BARS ARE THE FLOW PROJECTIONS OVER TIME AND THESE ARE THE FLOW PROJECTIONS FOR THE PROPORTIONAL FLOW THAT SPECIFICALLY WILL BE ROUTED TO THAT FACILITY. AND SO, THAT, IT SORT OF ILLUSTRATES THE NEED FOR GETTING THE DESIGN IN PROGRESS PRETTY SOON WHERE WE ARE TAKING SOME INITIAL STEPS TO DO A CLOSE EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING SEQUENCING REACTOR PROCESS AT THE SOUTH PLANT. WHICH IS CURRENTLY READY FOR TWO MGD. AT THAT PLANT IS BEEN IN OPERATION FIVE YEARS, THE TC Q ALLOWS YOU TO GO BACK AND USE THAT DATA TO ESSENTIALLY REASSESS THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT AND REDEFINE WHAT IT IS CAPABLE OF TREATING.

AND WITH HOPES OF BUMPING THE NUMBER UP.

IT'S CALLED THE PAPER REWRITE IT'S ZERO CAPITAL COST TO INCREASE THE RATE OF CAPACITY WHICH IS THE WHAT TC Q USES JUDGMENT AGAINST THE FLOW THAT THEY ARE SEEING.

WE ALSO DOING, TAKING STEPS TO FLUSH OUT THAT CONCEPT WITH THE INTERCEPTOR THAT PIVOTING OPTION.

THERE'S MORE CAPACITY TO BALANCE THE FLOW.

PARALLEL OF COURSE WITH GETTING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLANT UNDERWAY. WE ANTICIPATE THAT PLANT TO COME ONLINE AND THEN, THE TIMING OF THAT NEXT EXPANSION IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, HELPING GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RUNWAY AFTER FINISHING THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BEFORE YOU HAVE TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE NEXT.

A LOT OF THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW THE GROWTH PLAYS OUT.

IF IT'S FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE AS IT WAS PRESENTED THE CASTLE EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS, AGAIN, THE FIRST FIVE YEARS ARE BASED ON A LOT OF REAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY. THIS WAS DRIVING INITIAL EXPANSION. WE DO SEE THINGS SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THAT JUST EXTENDS THE RUNWAY BUT WE'RE SORT OF PLANNING FOR THE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT. OFF GUARD BY ANYTHING.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT.

LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT THE PLANT CONCEPTUALLY WILL LOOK.

THIS IS A MASTER PLANNING LEVEL CONCEPT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONVERSION OF THE PLANT FROM SEQUENCING OVER TO A CONVENTIONAL ACTIVATED REACTOR PROCESS ADDING SOME CLARIFIERS, NEW TOWER.

IF YOU BEEN TO THE PLANT YOU'VE SEEN THE BIG TOWER THAT WORKS THERE AT THE FRONT OF THE PLANT.

THAT THE MAIN SCORE TO ONLY TO ADD AN LIFT STATION FOR THAT SINCE WE ARE CONVERTING IT FROM A FORCED MANAGER TO GRAVITY ENTRY. THAT MEANS PIPES COME IN YOU HAVE TO LIFT THE WATER BACK IN THE PLACE OF THE HYDRAULICS WORKOUT. THE EXISTING PLANT IS ALREADY SET UP TO BE CONVERTED TO AIR RATED SLUDGE HOLDING TANKS.

HE DONATES AERATORS THERE AND LOWERS HER ALREADY SET UP FOR THAT. AND SO, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO RETAIN THE VALUE OF THAT INVESTMENT BY THE CITY AND UTILIZE IT FOR THE TREATMENT PROCESS.

LOOKING AT CENTRAL COMEDIES GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SERVICE AREAS LOT SMALLER. THIS GIVES US A LITTLE MORE ROOM TO GO THROUGH THE EXPANSION AND GET THE PLANT IN SHAPE, FOR THE FUTURE BUILDOUT. JUST A COUPLE OF STEPS HERE, ESSENTIALLY, TO GET THE PLANT UP WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT.

IS THAT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT GLENWOOD STATION IS PUMPING TO CENTRAL OR SOUTH?

>> THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE NEED TO LIFT THE WATER

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BACK UP TO CENTRAL BECAUSE THE SOUTH PLANT IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO GET CAUGHT FIRST IN TERMS OF CAPACITY.

BUT THEN ONCE A SOUTH PLANT INITIAL EXPANSION IS IN PLACE, THERE IS MUCH LESS OF A NEED TO DO THAT ON A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONAL BASIS. AT THAT POINT IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF OPERATIONS TYPE THING.

CAN YOU GO BACK JUST REAL QUICK, THERE'S A COUPLE SLIDES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDOUT PLANS, HAD I THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE ON THE SLIDE, AND YOU GO BACK?

>> SURE. >> KEEP GOING.

BEFORE ALL OF THIS? >> YES, A COUPLE MORE.

NO. ONE MORE.

NO. YEAH.

NO, ONE MORE. NO WAIT, THAT'S THE ONE.

NOT ON HERE YOU NEVER SHOW THE 3.5, SORRY.

YEAH, YOU ARE SAYING THE FLOW, THE MAX IS GOING TO BE 20.

ON YOUR FLOW PROJECTION. BUT THEN WHEN HE WENT DOWN TO THE FINAL, SLIDE YOUR APP BEFORE, YOU SURE THAT WE HAD TO GET UP TO 3.25 BECAUSE WE WERE AT CAPACITY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

SO, WHY DO THEY CHANGE? >> WE'RE PROJECTING THIS TO

GET UP TO ABOUT TWO MGD? >> RIGHT.

>> YES IF YOU GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE.

RIGHT. >> AND 20/40,

>> I DIDN'T SEE WERE WILLING TO PAY TO GET TO THE OTHER COST PRODUCT BUT I GUESS THAT'S FINE.

>> I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. >> DID I SPOT SOMETHING?

>> PROBABLY BETTER MAYBE WE SIT DOWN ONE DAY.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. I COULD HAVE BEEN OFF.

BUT THERE'S -- >> A THING IS WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE COST. RIGHT HERE YOU ARE SAYING,

YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND TO 1.7. >> EXPANSION BY 1.7, MY APOLOGIES. >WE ARE GOING UP TO 1.7 AND

2026. >> RIGHT BUT THEN YOU SAID 2040, YOU'RE SHOWING 3.25 AND THUS NOT ON HERE.

>> I APOLOGIZE, THERE MIGHT BE A TYPO.

>> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING CONFUSED BECAUSE I WAS LIKE --

>> THIS IS 1.7. >> RIGHT AND I DIDN'T KNOW.

I KNOW I SAW A NUMBER THAT WASN'T RIGHT.

I WAS CONFUSED. THANK YOU.

I'M A LITTLE TIRED. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS ON THIS CENTRAL PLANT? THIS IS AGAIN, A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING INITIAL CONVERSION OF THE SECONDARY CLARIFIERS, TO A PROCESS CONCEPTUALLY WE HAVEN'T COMMITTED ANYTHING YET.

IT'S WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED BUT THEN EVENTUALLY, AND EVENTUAL CONVERSION, THERE IS AN EXISTING .1 MGD, VERY SMALL PLANT THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN OPERATION THAT WAS REPLACED BY THE PLANT NOW. AND SO DEMONSTRATING SOME -- DEMOING SOME OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD CAME MORE, OR A QUESTION FOR THE CITY I THINK.

CITY STAFF. WE HAD ALL THE TRACKING OF THE LUES, BUT PRODUCTS CHANGED OVER TIME.

IT'S NOT REALLY THE LANDING AND WORKS INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.

HOW WE TRACKING THOSE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE STAND WITH THESE DATA BEEN ASSIGNED FOR A SEER THAT MAY HAVE KIND OF SPLIT AND GUNNER IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND WE KEEP THE FINAL NUMBER IN LINE BECAUSE

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ONE OF THE REASONS WE KIND OF A INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A MESS HERE WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE, NOBODY WAS SURE WITH THE RIGHT NUMBER WAS THAT WE HAD LEFT.

IF WE ARE NOT, IF WE DON'T DO A BETTER JOB KEEPING TRACK HERE ON OUT, WE WILL END UP IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE

A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. >> PART OF, IAN MENTIONED BUILDING THE MODEL. PART OF THE INITIAL EFFORT WAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT'S BEEN BUILT. TO CREATE THAT BASELINE IF YOU WILL. AND ALSO, ACKNOWLEDGING THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, CERTAIN NUMBER OF THESE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED. SO, WE'VE GOT TRACKING PROCESS SET UP TO SAY OKAY, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A DEVELOPMENT HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THEY'VE GOT SO MANY LUES AND DISEASE PHASE COMES IN WE ARE LOGGING THAT AGAINST WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED. BUT IN THE PLANNING PHASE, IN TERMS OF OVERALL SIZING AND PLANNING, WE ARE ASSUMING THAT THOSE UNITS WILL BE THERE IN THE ULTIMATE PLANNING HORIZON.

AS WE GO ALONG, TRACKING THOSE. AS NEW DEVELOPERS COME IN AND INITIAL REQUESTS AND THE FILE EXTENSION REQUEST, THEY ARE STATING THIS IS OUR LAND USE, THIS IS DENSITY, NUMBER OF LUES AND WE ARE COMPARING THAT TO WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY MODELED WITHIN THE SYSTEM FOR THAT AREA.

AND HAVE COME UP WITH SIZING, WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN THAT. YOU ONLY WANT TO PUT A LINE ONE TIME AND HAVE THAT. AND SO, AS NEGATIVE ELEMENTS COME IN, WE LOOKING AT THAT, THE AGGREGATE FOR THAT BASIN, THAT FEEDS INTO THAT PARTICULAR SYSTEM AND DOWNSTREAM.

AND IDENTIFYING WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT IS ON THE GROUND NOW.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SYSTEM, WE TALKED ABOUT GLENWOOD LIFT STATION BEING ONE OF THOSE THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS SET UP WITH MULTIPLE PUMPING LOCATIONS, BRINGING WATER AROUND, THERE ARE DOWNSTREAM CONSTRAINTS ON A NUMBER OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

WHEN THINGS COME IN, WE SAY OKAY, AT YOUR DOORSTEP SO TO SPEAK, THESE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS MAYBE THEY HAVE TO BE IN PLACE TO CONNECT THE SYSTEM.

BUT THERE MAY BE FURTHER DOWNSTREAM IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED AS WELL AND WE ARE IDENTIFYING THOSE IN THAT RESPONSE AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED BEFORE WE CAN ACCEPT THAT FLOW.

THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING ACCOUNTING PROCESS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WHEN THIS MODEL WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED, THERE WAS SOME ACCOUNTING. WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED, WHAT'S THE DELTA? BASED ON THAT, WHAT IS THE OVERALL LAND USE PLANNING AND

PROJECTED USES? >> OKAY THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A GOOD NUMBER TODAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT AS A CITY THE NEXT FEW YEARS SO THAT THREE YEARS FROM NOW WERE NOT LOST AGAIN.

I KNOW WE HAD TO UPDATE IT A FEW YEARS OUT BUT DON'T WANT DUCT UPDATED BECAUSE WE LOST TRACK OF EVERYTHING.

THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRACKING IT AND WE HAD TO HOPEFULLY HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WILL BE NOT DEPENDENT ON YOU BEING HERE AND SOMEBODY ELSE BEING HERE, IT'S AN ORGANIZATIONAL SYSTEM. THUS THE KIND OF THING I WANT

TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOING. >> ON THAT NOTE, WITHOUT THE MODEL AND WITHOUT THE PLAN, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE STARTING FROM AND THAT IS WHY IT IS SUCH A BIG LIFT AS PART OF THESE THINGS CAN DEVELOP BUT ONCE THEY ARE DEVELOPED, YOU HAVE ANY SCR PROCESS. NOW THAT WE HAVE AN SCR PROCESS TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY SINGLE REQUEST FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS HOW THEY COME TO GET CAPTURED.

THEN THE MODEL IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT, IF YOU WILL BUT ALTHOUGH IT IS ACTUALLY A HYDRAULIC MODEL, AS YOU ACCEPT SERS, THAT GETS AGGREGATE INTO THE MODEL.

THIS MODEL GETS RAN AGAINST ALL KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE CAPACITIES ACCOUNTED FOR. AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO FUND AND PAY FOR KEEPING THE MODEL ALIVE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY WITH REAL DATA AND NOT BE GUESSING AT WHAT WE THINK WE

HAVE, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

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>> YOU HAVE A QUESTION. >> I WAS JUST SAYING, YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOURS. I WAS JUST SAYING YOU KNOW, THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

THIS IS NOT SAYING WE ARE GOING TO -- THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN OF WHAT TIMING SHOULD BE TO EVALUATE DURING BUDGET CYCLES

AND STUFF. >> WE DON'T KNOW GROWTH WILL DO. THREE YEARS FROM NOW DEPENDING ON HOW YOU MOVE SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

>> I WILL SAY THIS RELATED TO THE PROJECT.

WE ARE, AS JAMES MENTIONED, THIS IS ON THE WASTEWATER AND ON THE WATER SIDE, THE LIVING MODEL HERE SO, AS THINGS PROGRESS, WE WILL FINE-TUNE THAT AS WE GO ALONG.

BACK EARLY IN THE PROJECT, EARLY SUMMER, WE PUT TOGETHER A CAPITAL PLAN BASED ON INFORMATION AT THE TIME.

THERE BEEN SOME PROJECTS THE DETAILS MAY HAVE CHANGED SLIGHTLY AS WE BEEN REFINING THINGS.

BUT WHAT IS IN THE PLAN HERE, IS THE PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS. AND SO, THAT CLOSELY MATCHES WHAT YOU APPROVED. AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ON THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, OVER TIME, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS MAY MOVE AROUND DEPENDING ON COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY COME IN. THE LIST OF PROJECTS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT FROM HERE ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FROM THE CITY TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH

IN DEMAND. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS.

MORE TO THE CITY MANAGER. I WAS GET BUSTED FOR DIGGING INTO THE WEEDS. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ON HERE IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, THE 10 YEAR PLAN, WE ARE DECOMMISSIONING LIFT STATIONS. AND KNOWING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STARTED CONSTRUCTION WHEN I WAS ON COUNSELOR HADN'T BEEN HERE FOREVER.

I'M HOPING THIS PLAN, IF WE MOVE CONSULTANTS EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT BUT A LOT OF THESE LIFT STATION, EVEN THE ONE ON NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, WE INCENTIVIZE THOSE DEVELOPERS AND PUT THEM IN WE GIVE THE MONEY BACK TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONLY TO FIVE OR EIGHT YEARS LATER, DECOMMISSION SOME. SO I DO KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS ON PLANNING BUT EVERY TIME I SEE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING ON TEARING STUFF OUT, PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE RUST ON IT. IF A DEVELOPER PUT IN AND WE DIDN'T PAY ANY IS LIKE THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN WE WANT TO COME BACK LATER AND SAY IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH AND HAD TO TEAR IT OUT. I HOPE THIS HELPS US.

BUT IT IS JUST A CONCERN I HAVE IS REPORT INFRASTRUCTURE AND, I DON'T WANT A NEW ENGINEER COMING IN FIVE YEARS THING I HAVE A BETTER PLAN. TEAR THAT BACK OUT.

AND FOR $20 MILLION. >> SURE.

THOSE ARE CERTAINLY VALID POINTS.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN.

LIFT STATIONS SPECIFICALLY WITH WASTEWATER, ARE GENERALLY THE EASIEST THING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DO TO GET SEWER SERVICE TO THEIR PROJECT. IT'S EITHER BECAUSE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL CAPACITY SOMEWHERE ELSE OR THE TRUNK LINE ISN'T THERE FOR THEM TO GRAVITY FLOW, OR THE REAR AND SISTER IN A DIFFERENT BASIN AND WHERE THE TREATMENT PLANT ACTUALLY IS BECAUSE THOSE THINGS DO HAPPEN. SO, ALMOST ALWAYS, IF A DEVELOPER CAN WALK IN THE DOOR AND CAN DO A LIFT STATION REAL QUICK TO GET THERE SEWER ISSUE SOLVED AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF OFF-SITE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL DO.

DECOMMISSIONING LIFT STATIONS GENERALLY MEANS, NOW WE HAVE A GRAVITY SOLUTION.E CAN TAKE THE LIFT STATION OFF-LINE INTO EVERYTHING GRAVITY FLOW, THERE IS NO MAINTENANCE UPKEEP, NO PUMPS TO BURNOUT NO MANPOWER HAVING TO GO AND DO THE DAILY CLEANUP AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF.

HEADACHE LIES, AND COST WISE, DECOMMISSIONING LIFT STATIONS AS SOON AS YOU CAN, IS USUALLY A GOOD THING.

THERE'S ALWAYS A COST BENEFIT TRADE-OFF, SO THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO DROP A NEW GRAVITY LINE AT A HIGH CAPITOL EXPENSE IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DEMAND ON THAT LINE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

>> I KNOW HOW IT WORKS MNF THE ARCTIC INCORRECTLY, FRAWLEY WAS INSTALLED IN 2017. SOMEONE AT THE CITY ASIDE OF THIS GROUP HERE SAID THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, APPROVED IT, TOLD US

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IT WAS A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME. WE INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPER TO PUT YEARS, WILL TEAR IT OUT AND I'VE YET TO UNDERSTAND, I KEEP HEARING THIS MINUTES ISSUE BUT I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE I CARE MORE ABOUT THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND COST OF OPERATION. GLOBULINS ARE BUDDY BUT THE IDEA HAS BEEN -- THE BROOKLYN'S, THAT ONE EVEN HIT 10 YEARS. IN MY MIND, I JUST SEE WASTE.

WE ARE PAYING PEOPLE TO PUT THINGS IN CARMEL HERON OF THE CONSULTANT, THEY SAY I'LL SAVE YOU SOME MONEY, LET'S RIP IT ALL BACK OUT AND GO TO GRAVITY. I'M LIKE IF GRAVITY IS THE HOT THING TO DO, THEN WE AS A CITY, SONY SISTER PUSHING FOR THE GRAVITY IN THE BEGINNING. BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE LIFT STATIONS WILL TEAR OUT THAT DON'T HIT 10 YEARS.

>> 100 PERCENT. YOU ARE NOT WRONG! WITH THE MODEL AND THE MASTER PLAN, THEN IT DOES ALLOW THE CITY TO PUSH FOR GRAVITY TO GET DONE, INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING THE

LIFT STATIONS. >> BUT THE CITY HAS TO STOP ASKING US, AND NOTHING WAS YOU OR WADE BUT SOMEONE HAS TO STOP TELLING COUNSEL THESE DEALS ARE GOOD BECAUSE WE LISTEN TO YOU AS PROFESSIONALS. SAY THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU SHOULD VOTE YES. WE VOTE YES AND FIVE YEARS LATER, WE NEED TO TEAR THAT OUT IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

WE JUST WASTED MONEY. QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FARLEY BUT I'LL BE WILLING TO BET THE BROOKLYN'S BEING SO FAR SOUTH AND THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, YOU ARE DOING OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THE SEWER DOWN.

THAT'S PROBABLY GOING ALONGSIDE THE BROOKLYN LIFT STATION, AM I GETTING CLOSE? MAKE SENSE OF THE APPOINTED TIME IF YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THE GRAVITY LINE ANYWAY, TO TAKE AN ADJACENT LIFT STATION OFF-LINE THAT CAN GRAVITY FLOW,

THAT KIND OF STUFF. >> IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO DO

IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. >> ASKED WHY THE DETAILS IN THE DA, RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE WE RELIED HEAVILY ON THAT TO NEGOTIATE THOSE DIZZY FEELING THAT WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, IT IS SET IN STONE AND WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, WE SAY, THIS IS THE SIZE OF PIPELINE WE HAVE IN THE GROUND.

THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO FOR HOOKUPS, AND ALL THE DETAILS, AT LEAST WE HAVE THE STANDARD WEARS BEFORE WE DIDN'T. THAT KIND OF MADE ME CREATED AS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, LIFT STATIONS, THEY LIKE TO GO TO QUICK FIX WHICH THEY WERE AND THEY DO WORK BUT NOW WE HAVE

THIS. >> KEEP IN MIND WE DID HAVE ONE OF THESE. THEY'VE SHOWN IT TO US MAYBE

WASN'T UPDATED AND ALL THAT, >> AS WE HAVE GROWN YOU KNOW

SINCE THE ORIGINAL. >> PAGE 22.

THIS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU BUT THERE'S A GRAPH STARTS AT 2022 AND IT IS OUR FLOW. 2082.

I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE. AT SOME POINT THE CITY BUILDS OUT. WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE CITY LIMIT. SOMEONE CAN SHOW WHAT THE PROJECTED, THERE SHOULD BE A FLAT LINE AT SOME POINT.

WE HAVE GRAPHS GOING TO 2082 IMAGES KEEPS GOING UP.

35 MILLION GALLONS. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 22 WITH THIS GREG THRASHER CAN'T GET TO 35 MILLION GALLONS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND, YOU CAN'T MAKE MORE LAND.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WASTEWATER THE CITY CAN PUMP.

IF WE WERE GEORGETOWN OR CITY WITH A GIGANTIC E TJ I GET IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ULTIMATE IS AND THEN, SHOW IT LEVELING OFF, BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AND I GO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT MUCH. I'VE GOT SOME THINGS WHERE IN SOME GRAPHS IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SHOWING ONE LEVEL OF TOTAL NEED AND ANOTHER GRAPH IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS OFF.

SO BY A FEW MILLION GALLONS OR A FEW YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, I COULD BE LOOKING AT THTHAT WRONG.

WE TALKED ABOUT RECLAIMED H2O. BOTH PLANTS CAN MEET TYPE II.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TYPE IS, I'M LOOKING FOR THE TYPE YOU CAN DRINK. BUT ISOTYPE WHEN IRRIGATION, FIRE AND TOILETS, TYPE II CONSTRUCTION, I THINK THE FUTURE, ANOTHER MEETING WE HAD TODAY SAYS WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF WATER. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY THE CASE. BUT IT IS NICE TO KNOW WHAT

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DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION COST WISE WHERE YOU ARE DUMPING MILLIONS INTO A CREEK.

EVERYBODY TOLD HER WATER IS COLD BUT WE KEEP DUMPING GOLD DOWN THE CREEK. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO CAPTURE ALL

THAT? >> DIFFERENCE IN TYPE I AND TYPE II, THIS IS THE EFFLUENT CATEGORIES TYPE I IS ALLOW FOR CONTACT. THAT MEANS A HUMAN CAN TOUCH IT AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. THIS TYPE II IS NONCONTACT USES. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WHAT IF I WANT TO DRINK? >> IS NOT OF THOSE YOU HAVE TO

SEND IT TO TREATMENT PLANT. >> I'LL TAKE IT COME UP FROM HER TO A TREATMENT PLAN AND TO HOME.

WHERE LOOK AT IT, WE ARE TREATING AND DUMPING THE WATER TO CREEK THE NEXT GUY DOWN THE ROAD DOWN THE CREEK IS PULLING OUT OF THE CREEK, TREATING IT AND SERVING APPEARED TO ME IS THE SAME THING. -- YOU GUYS ARE SMARTER THAN ME WE TALKED ABOUT YOU BECOMING DISINFECTING.

THEY WERE SOMETHING A LITTLE SICK ON THE MEGA SITE THAT MAYBE THERE IS A CHEAPER THING THAT WE ARE DOING THAT'S PUTTING TEMPORARY STUFF ONLY TWO OR THREE YEARS, I WON'T GET INTO ALL THE NUMBERS AND ALL THIS BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION MAYBE JUST DO IT RIGHT THE FIRSTTIME . THERE IS ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT WHY THEY KEEP TELLING US STUFF WE JUST BUILT.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, SOME OF THESE HAVE ALTERNATIVES.

DON'T KNOW HOW BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ALTERNATIVES.

IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS A PREFERRED TO DO IT ONE WAY AND THE PREFERRED WAS LIKE $8 MILLION OR SOMETHING IN THE NONPREFERRED WAY WAS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPGRADE.

SO $8 MILLION WITH THE CELLULAR PERSON IF YOU HAD ONE GUY JUST OF KEEP ONE THING -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BIG THING. PROJECT 47 IS WHAT I HAVE LISTED, TEARING OUT SOMETHING WE JUST PUT IN.

AND MAYBE IT'S TEMPORARY. SOME OF THIS IS TEMPORARY BUT, SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. I LIKE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.

I THINK PROJECTIONS ARE STILL SKYHIGH BECAUSE IT'S 30 PERCENT GROWTH FOR A FEW YEARS. I KNOW THIS YEAR IS NOT 30 PERCENT. I CAN'T SAY WHAT NEXT YEAR WILL BE BUT IF ANYTHING I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE OUR FOOT OFF THE GAS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS, GET IT GOING. BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AS WE MAYBE DID A YEAR AGO JUST BECAUSE GROWTH IS SOMEWHAT CHANGED.

I'LL RUN THE REST OF IT LATER AS WE GO.

>> I WANT TO SAY ONE THING. ONCE WE GET THIS WITH THE GROWTH NUMBERS, WE DEFINITELY WITH THESE PROBABLY NEED TO DO WATER, WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE STUDY AGAIN.

JUST HAVE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

>> AND STAFF RECOMMEND MOVING TOWARD THAT.

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USING THE CIP AND MASTER-PLANNED AS THE STARTING

POINT. >> I DON'T WANT TO BE FACETIOUS BUT BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANOTHER WASTEWATER STUDY PLAN, I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT WE COLLECTED OR SHOULD'VE COLLECTED ON THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE.

SO I KNOW WHERE WE ARE. >> I HEAR YOU.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN FOR RESOLUTION R-2022--- AS PRESENTED.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. EXCEPT IN THE WASTEWATER PLANT AS PRESENTED. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE

MOTION? >> THANK YOU, LET'S ROCK 'N'

ROLL. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHEN I FIRST BECAME A COUNCILMEMBER, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND ALSO, WORKING ON THIS AND UPDATING US.

AND ALSO, TO THE MAYOR! YOU KNOW FOR LIKE ARE PROTECTED GROWTH, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS BUT THIS AREA IS GROWING, SAMSUNG IS IN OUR BACKYARD, THE COUNTY HAS GIVEN US $10 MILLION TO WORK WITH TAYLOR, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES, I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT, WE DO HAVE THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS HUGE AND IT HAS ROOM TO GROW.

AND WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO TAYLOR AS THEY GROW TOWARDS

HUTTO AS WELL. >> WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT, THOSE ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS.

ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AND ALL THE OTHER TRACKS INCLUDED IN THE PROJECTION OF FIVE YEARS, CORRECT? ALL OF IT IS ALREADY IN THERE SO THE GROWTH WE ARE SAYING IS SLOWING DOWN, WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THE GROWTH THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. FAR AS IMPACT FEES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT AS FAR AS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS, THAT'S ACTUALLY PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON REAL-TIME NUMBERS, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT SINCE IT SEEMS MAYBE WE WERE CLEAR OF WHAT IT WOULD BE IN

THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. >> IS APPROVED DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL BE BUILT IT COULD SLOW DOWN,

>> GUARANTEE GOING INTO THE PLAN AND X, Y, AND Z.

>> IT BELONGS IN THE PLAN BUT IT MIGHT NOT GET BUILT IN THE GROUND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY AND OTHER THINGS. IT MAY AND IT MAY NOT, WE DON'T KNOW SO WE JUST AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> I THINK THERE IS A CONFUSION HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE 8000 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND 5000 MULTIFAMILY LOTS AND HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE HAVE PUT STUFF IN AND HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SO THEY START MODELING ALL OF THAT, I'M SAYING IF WE ARE PROPOSING 30 PERCENT INCREASE IN OBVIOUSLY IS NOT HAPPENING THIS YEAR WE ARE ACTUALLY LAID DOWN, WE JUST HAVE MORE TIME, THEY'RE NOT MODELING EVERY TIME SOMEONE APPEARS SOMETHING CAN'T SAY GO BUILD CAPACITY FOR FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS DO, GO BUILD 1000 HOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WILL DO 100 HOMES A YEAR, WE WILL PROJECT 100 AND

YOU DO THAT, RIGHT? >> YET TO MAKE SOME TYPE OF ASSUMPTION HOW THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED.

>> WRIGHT, JUNIOR FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WON'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE SER REQUEST FOR WATER BECAUSE A WHOLE SYSTEM LITTERED WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED, NOT USING IT.

SO THEY CAN'T GIVE THE CAPACITY WAY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SPOKEN FOR.UT NOW EVERYTHING HAS DEADLINES.

TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS PART WHAT WE DID BEFORE, WHERE THE CITY ENGINEER JUST 1800 UNITS? NO PROBLEM.

NO TRACK AND ONE DAY WE FOUND OUT WE'VE GIVEN OUT MORE COMMITMENTS THAN WE HAD. SO.

I'VE GOT A GOOD GRASP ON EVERYTHING.

I JUST DON'T THINK IN 2087 WE WILL NEED QUITE AS MUCH CAPACITY AS WE ARE SAYING UNLESS THE CITY AGAIN, AND THAT THE POPULATION, THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK WE JUST DON'T HAVE

TO BE SO EXCITED ABOUT. >> CALL THE VOTE PLEASE.

[11.2. Presentation, discussion and possible action to accept the Water Master Plan prepared by Freese and Nichols, Resolution No. R-2022-110 (FN) (Wade Benton)]

YOU ARE STILL UP. >> PRESENTATION DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE WATER MASTER PLAN PREPARED

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RESOLUTION R Ã2022 Ã110. >> L ASKED DAVE TO COME UP AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN.

>> THANK YOU. AS HE SAID I'M DAVE CHRISTIANSEN WITHFREESE AND NICHOLS , IN THE AUSTIN OFFICE.

PROVIDING A SUMMARY ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE THAT WE JUST COMPLETED. QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT I WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY. WE WILL DO A QUICK WALK-THROUGH OF THE PROJECT SCOPE, AND THEN, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM LIMITATIONS AND DRIVERS FOR SOME OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS. THEN DIVE INTO OUR PROPOSED CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, CIP. THEN OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. THIS IS A QUICK LOOK AT THE SKULL, FIRST AND WE DEVELOPED GROWTH PROJECTIONS FOR FIVE, 10 AND 25 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. THAT INCORPORATED KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS WHICH INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT ALREADY APPROVED BY THE CITY, NEWER DEVELOPMENT, TRIP TO THE SCR PROCESS AND ALSO, PLANNING FOR THE MEGA SITE, AS WELL AS INFILL DEVELOPMENT LITTLE FURTHER INTO THE, FATHER OUT PLANNING PERIOD WHERE WE GOT FROM CITY PLANNING STAFF, TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON COUNTS FOR THOSE PARCELS. WE ALSO DEVELOPED AND BUILT A NEW HYDRAULIC MODEL OF THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, DEPLOYED 12 PRESSURE QUARTERS IN THE SYSTEM TO CAPTURE SOME REAL-WORLD DATA, USE THAT, ALONG WITH TANK LEVEL DATA FROM THE CITY TO CALIBRATE THE HYDRAULIC MODEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OUTPUT WILL GAIN FROM THE MODEL MATCHES REAL-WORLD RESULTS. AND THEN, USE THE MODEL TO PERFORM WATER SYSTEM ANALYSIS, SO, ANALYZING THE EXISTING SYSTEM FROM A MODELING PERSPECTIVE, ALSO CHECKING AGAINST TC Q MINIMAL CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS FOR PUMPING AND STORAGE, AND THEN ALSO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AT THE FIVE, 10, 25 PLANNING HORIZONS, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ENOUGH CAPACITY, PUMPING AND STORAGE TO MEET PROJECTED DEMAND, AND VERIFYING ALL OF THAT IN THE MODEL.

WITH THAT, WE DEVELOPED A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH HAS FACED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS AND 25 YEAR PLANNING HORIZONS. DEVELOP PLANNING LEVEL COST ESTIMATES TO GO ALONG WITH THOSE PROPOSED PROJECTS.

THAT'S WHY WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT ACTUALLY, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM LIMITATIONS, AND SOME DRIVERS BEHIND THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. FIRST ON THE LEFT, WE ARE PRODUCTION CAPACITY. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THE CITY IS ABLE TO PRODUCE AND DELIVER TO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. TCQ HAS REQUIREMENTS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY OF ENOUGH WATER TO MEET DEMAND ON A DAILY BASIS. AND CURRENTLY, DURING HOT, DRY PERIODS OF THE YEAR WE EXPERIENCE LIKE THIS PAST SUMMER THE CITY IS REALLY CLOSE TO ITS EXISTING PRODUCTION CAPACITY. THEN WATER CONVEYANCE IN THE MIDDLE, WITHOUT ADEQUATE WATER CONVEYANCE BEING ABLE TO MOVE WATER FROM ONE PART OF THE SYSTEM TOGETHER, YOU CAN RUN INTO OPERATIONAL ISSUES, ISSUES WITH MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE PRESSURE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SYSTEM.

AND SO, THAT IS THE CASE FOR SOME PARTS OF THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM. THERE IS A LACK OF PIPELINE CONNECTIVITY, SPECIFICALLY THE 801 PRESSURE PLAN CAUSING AREAS OF LOW PRESSURE, AND SOME OPERATIONAL ISSUES.

IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY. THEN FINALLY, STORAGE CAPACITY.

THIS IS TALK ABOUT GROUND STORAGE TANKS, ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS. WHICH REALLY JUST PROVIDE A BUFFER FOR OPERATIONS AND ALSO, PROVIDE SOME EMERGENCY STORAGE DURING A FIRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND CURRENTLY, THE CITY IS MEETING ALL MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. BUT THE AMOUNT OF NEAR-TERM GROWTH WE ARE PROJECTING, IS GOING TO NECESSITATE ADDITIONAL ELEVATED AND GROUND STORAGE. NOW WE ARE DIVING INTO OUR

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PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A MAP OF THE CITY WATER SYSTEM. THE TWO DIFFERENT COLORS, LET'S SEE, THERE WE GO, ORANGE IS 801 PRESSURE PLAN AND THEN, PURPLE IS THE 890 PRESSURE PLANE. EVERYTHING IN BLACK OR GRAY IS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.AND WHAT WE ARE SHOWING IN RED, ARE THE NEAR TERM SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.

THESE ARE WITHIN THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

A LOT OF THE WATERLINES THAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE, ARE TO SERVE NEW AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE IS NO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO GOT SOME FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AND EXPANSION, AT THE FRAME SWITCH PUMP STATION WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A NEW GROUND STORAGE TANK.

AND THEN, A NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THE 801 PRESSURE PLANE. HERE, WE'VE GOT SUMMARY OF THE NEAR-TERM IN APPEARANCE, TABLE ON THE LEFT SHOWS PROJECTS FIRST, THAT ARE REALLY NEEDED FROM AN OPERATIONS OR SYSTEM CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS STANDPOINT.HERE WAS TOTAL UP TO ROUGHLY $95 MILLION. THE FINAL FIVE PROJECTS THERE, ARE REALLY MORE TO SERVE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE CITY WILL ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH DEVELOPER ON THESE PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL FOR THOSE IS ROUGHLY 33 MILLION.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS.

SHORT-TERM PROJECTS ARE REALLY CRITICAL TO KEEP UP WITH THE ANTICIPATED GROWTH. AND THE CITY IS CURRENTLY RUNNING REALLY CLOSE TO PRODUCTION CAPACITY ON THIS PEAK DEMAND DAYS IN THE SUMMER. AND IN ADDITION TO THESE PROJECTS, ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY WILL NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND I KNOW CITY STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT AND WITH MULTIPLE LEADS BUT THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN ADDITION TO THESE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.

NOW, LOOKING A LITTLE FARTHER OUT, WE'VE ADDED BLUE AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS MAP. THE BLUE PROJECTS ARE PROJECTS IN THE 10 YEAR PLANNING WINDOW. WE HAVE A NEW 24 INCH WATER LINE -- AND A LARGER 2 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANK.

AS WELL AS ADDING A SECOND GROUND STORAGE TANK.

THEN FATHER OUT, AND THE 25 YEAR PLANNING WINDOW, WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL WATERLINES TO SERVE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT.

AN ADDITIONAL CROSSING UNDER HIGHWAY 79, TO IMPROVE CONDUCTIVITY IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK UP NEAR -- LOOP.

AND THEN IN A 25 YEAR, RIGHT AROUND 33 MILLION WITH 19 OF THAT BEING MORE OPERATIONS, CAPACITY REQUIREMENT RELATED PROJECTS. AND THEN, A COUPLE OF DEVELOPER

DRIVEN PROJECT AS WELL. >> CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? THE GREEN IS? 25.

SO, IS THAT ASSUMING THAT THE AREAS WHERE THE STORAGE TANK ARE TODAY ARE NOT DEVELOPED FOR THAT MANY YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT IS FILLED IN A LOT SOONER.

>> ALL THE INFILL DEVELOPERS, THAT'S NOT ALREADY APPROVED, AT THAT PROCESS OR THE MEGA SITE, THE SHEER NUMBERS ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS PUT IN THAT PERIOD BUT OBVIOUSLY, IF THE PATTERNS CHANGE, -- IS GOOD TO KNOW YOU MAY NEED TO REQUEST LAND FOR FUTURE TANK OR SOMETHING.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THERE ARE FEWER PROJECTS ON THIS IN THE NEAR TERM THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LARGE AMOUNT OF GROWTH BEING PROJECTED IN THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS. AS GROWTH SLOWS, AS A WORD OF

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SERVICE AREA WHICH, IF WE GO BACK TO THE MAP REAL QUICK.

THE WATER SERVICE AREA IS ENCOMPASSED BY THE ORANGE AND PURPLE AS THAT HAPPENS YOU NEED LESS AND LESS SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. THE LIST GETS SHORTER AS TIME GOES ON. I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE AGAIN, NOT INCLUDING ANY WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS IN THIS CIP SO LONG

RANGE NEEDS TO CONTINUE. >> UNDERSTAND THE LONG TERM BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR MODEL THAT YOU GAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO GET 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY LIKE NEXT YEAR, THEN ANOTHER FIVE BY 2025. BUT THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED ANYWHERE IN THIS MODEL. IT SEEMS LIKE A MASSIVE GAP, A WATER ISSUE WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND.

YOU MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS BUT DON'T HAVE ANYMORE WATER SOURCE, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE THAT'S THE TRIGGER POINT.

>> YEAH, FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE ARE ASSUMING THAT ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE WATER SUPPLY WOULD GET TO THE PUMP STATION WHICH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP IT IS IN THE UPPER RIGHT AND THAT IS WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING WATER SUPPLY COMES IN NOW. WE MADE THAT ASSUMPTION BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING A WATER SUPPLY EVALUATION THAT WILL WORK ON WITH THE CITY AND I THINK JAMES OR WADE COULD SPEAK BETTER TO SOME OF THE NEAR-TERM OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT WASN'T PART OF THE SCOPE, I GUESS, OF HIS MASTER PLAN

UPDATE. >> WITH THAT, WE BROUGHT UP ONCE, I WASN'T TRYING TO BE FUNNY, SEEMS LIKE WE ARE RUNNING ALL OF OUR WATER THROUGH ONE POINT AND SWITCH.

ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS, A SEMI LOSES CONTROL, WEARS OFF, WHAT I AM SEEING, ALL EGGS IN ONE BASKET.

IS THERE NOT A WAY TO SAY IN 10 YEARS, WE'VE GOT THIS OVER HERE AND YOU GUYS REALLY SHOULD HAVE A BACKUP, OR A LOOP THAT GOES AROUND IN CASE, I DON'T SEE ANY THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT EVEN IN TERMS OF A TERRORIST ATTACK OR SOMETHING.

IF THE ENTIRE CD IS DEPENDENT ON FOUR ACRES, YOU HAVE A

COPOUT THERE ALL THE TIME. >> AND WE HAVE OFFERED TO DEVELOP, WITH CALLING A RESILIENCY CIP.

SOME SORT OF SECOND DELIVERY POINT FOR WATER.

THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO A SEPARATE TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM

IN THE FUTURE. >> IT IS NOT IN THAT, THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH STAFF AND SOME OF THE WATER FOLKS THAT WE ARE TALKING TO, OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE TAKE NEW WATER IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION BECAUSE IT IS THE HIGH PRESSURE PLANE. WE CAN ALWAYS BLEED WATER BACK DOWN AND THAT WOULD KEEP, AND NOTHING ALL KNEW WHAT ABOUT SOME NEW WATER NEEDS TO EFFECTIVELY TRY TO GET UP THERE, WHETHER IT BE PARTNERS DRAWING A NEW LINE OR WE WILL CONNECT WITH AN INTERCONNECT WITH SOMEBODY, THE HIGH-PRESSURE PLANES OF THE TARGETED PLACE TO DELIVER SOME ADDITIONAL WATER FOR THAT VERY REASON.

BECAUSE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I BROUGHT UP WHEN I SAW THE PLAN.

ALL OF OUR WATER IS FLOWING THROUGH THAT ONE SIDE RIGHT NOW. AND FRANKLY, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WILL HAVE TO BE. JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE GET OUR WATER FROM. BUT, WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES, TO WIN THAT SITE GOES DOWN.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TERRORIST ATTACK OR 18 WHEELER.

IT COULD SIMPLY BE, ANGELA, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET SIGNED OUT FOR SOME REASON.

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>> I DON'T HAVE AS MANY CONCERNS YOU GUYS DID ADDRESS AN OVERALLOTMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE JONAH IS PUTTING ON THEIR LINE. WE HAVE A $7 MILLION INTERCONNECT COMMENT. AND I DO APPRECIATE SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE BECAUSE THAT ALONE $25 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF THAT IS NOT TO SAY IN FIVE YEARS WE DECIDE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. [INDISCERNIBLE] RESOLUTION ARE 22 ? 110.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ARTICLE NUMBER TWO HAS PRESENTED DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN WE ARE EXPECTING THE STUDY TO BE?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A STEADY.

I HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SUPPLIERS.

>> LOOKING AT OPTIONS.

>> YES ONE OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE TALKED IT WAS STILL WORKING AT THE MATH ON THEIR SIDE BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE IT WOULD TAKE TO GET WATER HERE I HAVE TALKED TO FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT POSSIBLE FOLKS. THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS BUT WILL HAVE TO BE APPROACHING THIS IN THE FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME WITH SOME SERIOUSNESS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THERE'S A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS GETTING DUMPED FOR THE NEXT GUY DOWN THE STREET.

>> YOU ARE NOT WRONG.

>> PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

>>.

FOR THE VOTE.

>>.

>> THAT WAS IT. MOTION PASSES 6-0.

>> I REQUEST WE MOVE ITEM 12.3 UP NEXT GREAT

>> ANY OBJECTIONS?

>> CAN WE HAVE A BATHROOM BREAK?

>> CAN WE GET THEM OUT FIRST? I MEAN.

[12.3. Discussion and possible action to execute Supplemental Agreement No 1 to the existing professional services agreement with DCS executed August 23, 2019 related to the Shiloh, Noack, and Frame Switch pump station improvement projects in the amount of $310,640.00 (Wade Benton)]

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF NOTES. ITEM 12.3 POSSIBLE DISCUSSION FOR EXISTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH DCS EXECUTED AUGUST 23, 2019 RELATED TO THE SHILOH, NOWAK AND FRAME SWITCH PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AN AMOUNT OF 3R $10,640.

>> SO THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD SEGUE FROM OUR WATER MASTER PLAN DISCUSSION I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE CAPITAL PROJECT LISTS WOULD BE A LIVING DOCUMENT.

I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THAT ALREADY WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO YOU LATE FOR EXAMPLE THIS LAST MONTH THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE WATER LINE THAT HAD WATER LINES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MEGA SITE THAT'S PORTIONS OF THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE CIP AS THE MASTER PLAN WAS COMING TO A CLOSE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH DCS ON THE PROJECT THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT FOR WHICH IS THE PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS THE FRAME SWITCH AND NOWAK AND SHILOH IT BECAME APPARENT TO ALL OF US THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE DOING THERE AT FRAME SWITCH WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO TACKLE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED FROM THE DESIGN BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD A WORK SESSION WITH FRIESEN NICHOLS WHO IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR A NEW STORAGE TANK AT FRAME SWITCH AND WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND HAMMERED OUT WHAT WAS NEEDED OUT THERE AND HOW THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AND IF IT MADE SENSE TO TRY TO COMBINE THOSE PROJECTS SO THE RECOMMENDATION

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WAS TO COMBINE THOSE PROJECTS IN THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT THEY WERE A NEAR FINAL DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT BUT AT FRAME SWITCH WITH THE ADDITION OF THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND YOU MENTION THE PROJECT EARLIER, MAYOR, THE LARGE 24 AND 42 INCH LINE THAT WAS DOWN THE IDEA ON THE PRIOR PLAN FOR THE PRESSURE PLANTS IN THE CITY. THE HIGH PRESSURE PLANT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN AND THE LOWER PRESSURE PLANT AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT AREA NORTH OF 79 WAS TO BE IN THAT HIGHER PRESSURE PLANT AND THAT REQUIRED A NUMBER OF THINGS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SOME ADDITIONAL PUMPS AT FRAME SWITCH THE LARGER SIZE PIPE AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE UPDATED PLAN WHICH WAS ALSO CONTINUING TO FEED THAT NORTHWEST PRESSURE ZONE WE WERE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE LARGE DIAMETER LINE AROUND SOME ADDITIONAL LINES THROUGH THE SITE AND COMBINE IMPROVEMENTS THERE AT FRAME SWITCH AND SO BY DOING SO WE COULD ELIMINATE THE HIGH SERVICE PUMPS SO WHAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH NOW THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT BASICALLY THE DESIGN CHANGES THE SCOPE CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT TO MERGE THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER. NOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR DCS THEY HAD ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WERE NOT CONTEMPLATED.

THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS FOR ONE PACKAGE WHAT WE BASICALLY CAME UP WITH AS A RECOMMENDATION 4 SEPARATE BID PACKAGES SIMILARLY PROCUREMENT EQUIPMENT PACKAGES COMBINING THE PUMP STATION AND THEN THE GROUND STORAGE TANKS AND THE GROUND STORAGE TANK IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AND THE PUMP STATION IS A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR BUT ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN GET THEM ON THE GROUND SO BY COMBINING THESE TOGETHER WE ARE WORKING HARD TO GET THOSE PROJECTS IN THE GROUND IN EARLY 2024 WE PROVIDED THAT ANTICIPATED TIME FRAME WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN MOVING OUT ON THESE PACKAGES WE ACTUALLY HAVE ADVERTISED THREE OUT OF THE FOUR PACKAGES THAT INCLUDE THE SHILOH AND COMP STATION AND THE PUMPS THE PREPURCHASE ON THE LONG LEAD ITEMS THE PUMPS THE GENERATORS TO GET THOSE OUT AND WE PLAN TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU IN EARLY JANUARY FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AND A COMBINED PROJECT FOR THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS PAINT THE PICTURE ON HOW WE ARE TRYING TO DELIVER THESE PROJECTS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER AND TO DO SO MEANT CALLING A TIMEOUT AND HAVING DCS DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK.

WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS OBVIOUSLY THERE SOME THINGS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO NOW AND THEIR TASK ORDER INCLUDED THE DESIGN PHASE SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THEIR PORTION OF WHAT'S ANTICIPATED AND DCS IS THE PRIMARY LEAD ON THE FACE AND I WILL PAUSE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM SURE YOU MIGHT BUT HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS PAINT A PICTURE ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> I WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THE TIMEOUT TO REEVALUATE SOME THINGS THIS IS A HUGE STEP TO GET A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN WE SET A PLAN IN MOTION AND WE ARE GOING THE MATTER WHAT SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE STOPPED AND MADE SOME CHANGES AND WE ARE

SPEEDING UP SOME THINGS >> SO IS THE DESIGN COMPLETE?

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>> THE DESIGN IS IN ESSENCE COMPLETE.

FOR THE PUMP STATION. AND THROUGH THE OIL FIELD IS AN IN-LINE WITH THE BOOSTER STATION AT NOWAK IN THE FRAME SWITCH SITE AT THE ELEVATED TANK SO THAT DESIGN IS BASICALLY COMPLETE AND THE GROUND TANK STORAGE PACKAGE ROACH WILL BE A DIFFERENT PACKAGE AND THAT SINCE THEY WERE AT THE FINISH LINE ON THE DESIGN WE HAVE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO GET THAT DESIGN SWITCH TO ACCOMMODATE WITH MERGING THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER VERSUS GOING AHEAD TO SOME THIS PROJECT OUT TO BID IT WAS BASICALLY READY TO GO OUT AND HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS ? TO TRY TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT WAS THE IDEA

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING THEN, PLEASE CALL THE BO VOTE.

>>.

>> >> MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

WITH NO OBJECTIONS LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND BE BACK AT 12:25 AM AND

>> BACK A MINUTE EARLY. 12:24 AM.

NEXT ITEM WE HAVE UP CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE CERTAIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AND ZONING AMENDMENTS WITH AN ORDINANCE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR CERTAIN PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE SPORTS HEALTH AND

ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT >> BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT ONE SOMEBODY WANTED TO TABLE IT RIGHT IF WE ARE GOING TO TABLE ITEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE WAITING WE CAN LET THEM GO HOME.

CERAMIC IT'S A GOOD POINT. NO OBJECTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO TABLING 12.4 AND 12.5?

>> I WOULD ALSO SAY. AND 12.2?

>> 12.1. 12.2.

[Items 12.2, 12.4, & 12.5]

>> WE NEED 12.1.

>> WE DO?

>> CARRY NO OBJECTIONS WE WILL TABLE 12.2 12.4 AND 12.5.

>> WE CAN TABLE 12.1 ALSO. IT'S FEBRUARY 8.

>> WOULD YOU RATHER WAIT OR GO HOME? WE ARE TRYING TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE.

>> SORRY WE DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION EARLIER.

>> SO ARE WE TABLING 12.1 AS WELL?

>> 12.1, 12.2. SPIRIT TAKING ACTION ON.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> ONLY IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD

AND GET GOING >> WE PROBABLY DO.

>> LET'S DO 12.1 BECAUSE WE WILL SPEND MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT IT. WE WILL TABLE 12.2, 12.4 AND 12.5.

>> NO OBJECTIONS.

[11.3. Consideration and possible action on a resolution to authorize the City Manager to initiate certain Comprehensive Plan, Map and Zoning Amendments, in accordance with the Hutto Unified Development Code, for certain properties owned by the Cottonwood Development Corporation that are located in the Sports, Health and Entertainment District, Resolution No. R-2022-112 (Legal)]

>> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO 11.3. SO IF THIS IS A RESOLUTION WE HAVE HAD SOME INTEREST ON THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES AND THIS WOULD ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MAP AND ZONING AMENDMENT AS STAFF WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL APPROVE THIS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 11.3 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> HEARING ABOUT THEM, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[05:15:02]

>>.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] WASTEWATER

[12.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments]

MASTER PLAN PART OF THE. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> ITEM 12.1 CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND/OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.

>> I HAVE ONE I FOUND OUT AT THE MEETING THAT MANDY MILLER IS STILL LISTED AS THE HUTTO CLEAN AIR ? WE HAVE TO REMOVE HER AND APPOINT SOMEBODY. AND IT MEETS QUARTERLY THE DATES FOR 2023 OR FEBRUARY 8, MAY 10, AUGUST 9, NOVEMBER 8, TYPICALLY ON A WEDNESDAY AN HOUR AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETS SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO WILL DO IT

>> A MOTION TO REMOVE MANDY. [INDISCERNIBLE] AND APPOINT SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> >> THIS CAME UP LAST TIME

>> FEBRUARY 8 MAY 10 AUGUST 9 NOVEMBER 8. THEY ARE ALWAYS A WEDNESDAY.

>> THEY ARE DAYTIME MEETINGS.

>> THEY MEET WHOEVER THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETS AT THE HILTON DOWN BY THE AIRPORT.

>> >> WHILE PEOPLE ARE THINKING OF WHO TO VOLUNTEER.

>> DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COUNCILMEMBER?

>> I DON'T KNOW. I CAN EMAIL SO IF WE WANT TO WAIT ON THAT ONE.

>> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE REMOVAL?