Jan 19, 2023 City Council

[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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IT IS 7:00. I WILL CALL THE MEETING OF JANUARY 19, 2023, GERARDO. I WILL TO ROLL CALL. COUNCILMEMBER -- PEER

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>> NEXT, IF YOU WILL RISE, WE WILL BE LED BY PASTOR SCHULTZ.

>> GOOD EVENING. THAT IS PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF GATHERING.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOU HAVE DONE FOR US, HEAVENLY FATHER. FOR ALL OF 2022 AND COMING INTO 2023. I WANT TO SAY THANKS YOU LORD FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US. AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR US IN 2023. EVERYBODY HERE IS GATHERED -- WE LOVE YOU WITH ALL OF OUR HEARTS AND MINDS, LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO FOR US. WE LOVE YOU WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. YOU AR GOD AND HONOR. IN JESUS NAME, W

PRAY. AMEN. >> AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDE GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AN JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> GOOD EVENING. >> MAYOR COUNCIL. ECONOMIC

[5.1. Presentation of Economic Development Project V. (Bob Farley)]

IT HAS HELPED US CLOSE THE DEA AND GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A GOOD ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT. THANK YOU, ALL, VERY

MUCH. MITCH? >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. AS WAS MENTIONED, WE ARE HERE TO MAKE A PRETTY SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT. WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO SHARE. I BELIEV I HAVE HER PRESENTATION QUEUED UP BECAUSE I BROUGHT A COUPLE THINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.

ALREADY, SO THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAKERY MY NAME IS MITCH ROBERTSON I'M THE CEO OF -- ENTERTAINMENT AND LIBRARY PROUD TO BE COMING TO THE CITY OF HUTTO .

>> THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE YOU ARE DOING THE BUSINESS WITH SO I PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE SLIDES TO SHO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THEN WE'LL GET TO WHAT WE ARE HERE T TALK ABOUT WHICH IS WORKING HER IN HUTTO. LET'S SEE IF THIS IS RIGHT. YEP. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US GOOD AS BOB MENTIONED, WE STARTED IN -- IN 2014. GOT TO WORK FOR THE AMAZING CITY MANAGER DOWN THERE. THAT KICKED OFF A REALLY FUN JOURNEY FOR ME IT HAS LED US DOWN A GREAT PATH TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. TODAY, WE ARE THE NATION POSITIVELY JUST OPERATOR OF CINEMA ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS. WE HAVE 18 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE FIVE STATES ENTERTAINED BY 8 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR. WE HAVE, AS OF THIS MORNING, 10241 CAST MEMBERS. I TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DAILY. SO WE ARE PROUD OF WHERE WE HAVE COME AND TO BE BORN AND BRED HERE IN AUSTIN AN CENTRAL TEXAS. I HAVE TO GO OL

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>> TEAM, ALL BASED IN AUSTIN. VERY CLOSE BY. REALLY GREAT PEOPLE THAT I AM BLESSED TO WORK WITH EVERY DAY. OF COURSE, WE WILL B VERY HANDS ON HERE AS THIS IS ONE FOR THE HOMETOWN. A PICTURE THERE. SO WHAT WE DO, WE ARE CALLED ENTERTAINMENT FOR EVERYONE. THE CINEMA IS A CORE COMPETITOR AND WE OFFER OTHER COMPETITORS TO THAT. BOWLING, GAMING, TRACTIONS, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, BAR. A NUMBER OF THINGS ALL UNDER ONE ROOF. A BIG PIECE OF THAT IS WE CREATE A REGIONAL DESTINATION BY COMBINING ALL OF THOSE PIECES UNDER A SINGLE GROUP. THIS YEAR I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FITTING T PUT A PILE UP THERE CONSIDERING OUR HISTORY. THAT IS A MAP OF PINPOINT MAP OF WHERE OUR GUEST ARE COMING FROM. YOU CAN SEE A PRETTY BIG DRAW INTO AWESOME AL THE WAY DOWN TO SAN MARCUS. THE LITTLE DOUBT HERE IN HUTTO.

ABOUT 76% OF PEOPLE COME FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR IMMEDIATE CODE TO TRAVEL. THERE ARE MANY THINGS THEY CAN DO UNDER ONE ROOF, AS OPPOSED TO BOUNCING AROUND. AGAIN, BEING IN A SIMILAR BUSINESS COMING OUT OF COVID, GOING INTO THE MOVIE BUSINESS, THE CINEMA IS RECOVERING, IT REALLY IS. AT TH SAME TIME, CINEMA IS ABOUT 25% OF OUR BUSINESS. 75% COMES FROM THE OTHER ATTRACTIONS. THROUGH THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN FRONT OF US. ACROSS ALL CATEGORIES OF 2018, EVEN MORE SINCE 2014. JUST A LITTLE BIT THERE. NOT WHAT WE ARE REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHICH IS WHA WE ARE DOING HERE. TO HUDDLE. THAT IS OUR FIRST GROUND-UP BUILD SINCE 2019. THAT IS OUR BRAND-NEW PROTOTYPE. WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND IT HAS A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WE LEARNED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IT IS HEAVILY FOCUSED ON ENTERTAINMENT AND ATTRACTIONS , AS WELL AS MORE MODELING ENTERTAINMENT OF ATTRACTIONS SO VIRTUAL REALITY, SPORTS GAMING.

THINGS THAT REALLY POPPED UP AS POPULAR IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

OUR CORE COMPONENTS ARE CINEMA WITH OUR ABX. THE SEATING, ALL THE GREAT STUFF THAT PEOPLE COME TO EXPECT FROM OUR BRAND.

BOWLING. 8000 SQUARE FOOT OF ATTRACTIONS. WE ARE A FULL BAR AND LARGE, OUTDOOR PATIO. THE SPACE WHICH -- CORPORATE EVENTS. A NUMBER OF GRADUATION WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS. TO BE COMING BACK HOME TO BUILD OUR FIRST GROUND-UP BUILD FEELS REALLY, REALLY GREAT . WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE DOING THAT HERE IN HUTTO. THAT'S ABOUT IT. WE ARE GOING TO BREAK DOWN HERE I THE SPRING AND BE OPENED BY SPRING OF 2024. WE JUST CAN'T WAIT TO BE GREAT LONG-TERM PARTNERS TO EACH OF YOU AND COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED TO BE MAYOR MIKE SNYDER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

>> >> ALL RIGHT. THE CONCEPT

[5.2. Presentation of Fritz Park Concept Master Plan. (Jeff White)]

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU. I AM JOINED BY BILL CLARK AND PHILIP KELLY. HAS BEEN THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS AND WIL TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS. AS JEFF SAID, YOU

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TO MAKE THIS AN AUTHENTIC PLAC IT. IT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT AND WE CERTAINLY ENJOY THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. SO I COUL EVEN COME EVER. AGAIN, MY NAME IS DALE CLARK WITH -- CONSULTANTS. THAT'S ME SEE.

OKAY. I WILL TRY TO ORIENT THE FIRST AND WILL DO A QUICK WALK-THROUGH. THIS IS THE EXISTING PARKING LOT. WE HAVE PARKS DEPARTMENT BUILDING HERE AND A TON OF SUPPORTS. SO TRYIN TO CREATE MORE OF A GRAND ENTRY IF YOU WILL, INTO THE PARK. SO YOU ARE GOING THROUGH A GROVE O TREES AND KIND OF UP TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FOOD COURT. A FOOD TRUCK PARKING, THAT TYPE OF THING. AN THE MAIN ENTRY OF THE PARK WILL BE A SINGLE FOCAL POINT WILL B A SPLASH PAD THAT IS PROGRAMMED TO GO IN THERE. OVER TO THE LEF OF THAT, NEAR WHERE WE HAVE TH EXISTING RESTROOM, WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW RESTAURANT TO REPLACE THAT ONE. GOING STRAIGH UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK , THAT IS THE PAVILION THAT IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW. THAT IS STILL A CENTRAL FOCAL PART OF THE PARK. THERE WILL BE TWO PLAYGROUNDS. ONE FROM -- AND ONE FROM -- 12 YEARS OLD. REALLY TRYING TO HAVE ACCESS T THE PARK AS IT NEEDS TO BE FOREVER AND PUT IT IS GOOD IF YOU ARE KID AND PLAYING ON THE SPLASH PAD. A LOT OF PEOPLE JUS WANT TO GET AWAY AND WANT TO WATCH AND WALKER READ A BOOK. W ARE CREATING SOME LITTLE NODES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PARK FOR THIS COULD BE A SHADE STRUCTURE AT THE TOP OF THE PARK. AND A TRAIL THAT LOOPS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PARK TO A NEW PROPOSED LAKE, WHICH IS BASICALLY GOING TO DO SEVERAL THINGS. IT HELPS WITH RETENTION IF YOU HAVE A SPLASH PAD THAT PASSES THROUGH THAT WATER THAT IS COMING DOWN HERE. WE WANT TO CAPTURE THAT. AND WE CIRCULATE AND GET IT BACK TO USE IRRIGATION FOR THE PARK . WE TRIED TO PUT A BUNCH OF NOTES.

LIKE I SAID, THE POLLINATED GARDEN. THERE COULD BE TROUBLE IS, SHE. YOU SIT THERE, ONE-TO-ONE, HAVE A CONVERSATION AND NOT BE BOTHERED BY PEOPLE WHO MAYBE ARE SCREAMING AND YELLING AND HAVING A GREAT TIME AT A PROGRAM THAT YOU KIND OF WANT TO GET AWAY AND EXPERIENCE OTHER THINGS . BEHIND THE SPLAS PAD, WE HAVE GOT US A COOL FOCA POINT OF GRASS PROMENADE. THIS THING CAN BE OPEN TO EVERYTHING FROM BOCCE BALL TO CORN HOLE.

JUST KIND OF FAMILY ACTIVITIES. IN THE BLUE HERE, THAT IS THE EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT. WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO INCORPORAT SOME SHADE FOR THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS. BEEN TO ENOUGH EVENTS OUT HERE THAT IT REALLY GETS OU OF THERE. ALL SCRAMBLING FOR THE THREE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE. IN FRONT OF THAT, WE HAV

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AGAIN, THE EVENTS WHERE YOU HAV EVERYTHING FROM SUMMER MOVIE SERIES TO MAYBE LITTLE PLAYS AND DANCE TYPE THINGS THAT HAPPENED ON THAT STAGE, FOLLOWE BY THE POND. EXISTING PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 65 SPACE AND WE WANT TO DOUBLE THAT BY INTRODUCING AN ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THE PART EAST SIDE O THE PARK. THAT WILL BE TIED IN FROM THE EXISTING BRICK TRAIL SYSTEM. IT GOES DOWN BEHIND THIS FOOTBALL FIELD, BASEBALL FIELD. 79. WE DO WANT TO MESS WITH THAT. THAT IS A GREAT ASPECT OF THE CITY AND WANT TO KEEP THAT. WE HAVE A DROP OFF WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF GO LOOK A THE POND NEAR THE POND COULD BE IT IS EVERYTHING FROM CATCHING WATER THAT WE CAN REUSE. IT IS NICE ACTIVITY. LET'S SEE. THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF ALL THE TRAILS WE HAVE SHOWN AND ALL TH DIFFERENT NOTES THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED. YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD ORGANIZATION OF HOW TO GET AROUND THE PARK TO GET T EACH DIFFERENT AREA. HERE IS A VIEW LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE BASKETBALL. AGAIN, A NEW LAKE.

WE HAVE THIS GRAND LAWN, IF YO WILL, THAT CAN BE USED FOR CONCERTS, DANCES, OR FOR ANY -- ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING OVER THE CENTRAL PROMENADE . AGAIN, WE HAVE BOCCE BALL, CORN HOLE, TRYING TO LEAVE ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY. THERE ARE A LOT O ACTIVITIES THAT AS PROGRAM IS THAT FURTHER, WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANTS ALTHOUGH SPLASH PAD LOOKING AT THE PROMENADE LAWN BEHIND IT. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW LOOKING OVER THE TWO DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS ARE WRITING THE YOUNGER KIDS FROM THE OLDER KIDS. THIS IS YOUR EXISTING PAVILION THERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE. A DROP OFF COURT AT ONE END OF THE LAKE. THE LONG VIEW OVER THE WATER. WE HAVE THE FOOD TRUCKS AND ENTERING THE PARK, WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE REALLY NICE GROVE OF TREES, SHADE, ENTRIES WHERE YOU CAN SI AND HAVE LUNCH. YOU CAN GET IN YOUR LAPTOP, CHARGER PHONE, DO SOME ACTIVITIES AS YOU ENTER TH PARK ITSELF. THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE LAKE, LOOKING BACK ACROSS THE SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE BASKETBALL COURT. AS THE SUN SETS IN THE EVENING, IT GIVES A REALLY LONG SHADOW, HOTELS MAKE THE OUTDOOR SPACE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE IN THE EVENINGS. A SMALL LITTLE GETAWAY PLACE, A LITTLE SPOT WITH THE TRELLIS AND VINES AND TREES AND BENCHES FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO SORT OF GET AWAY FROM IT ALL AN WATCH. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTION, BUT OBSERVE THE ACTION, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR THAT.

ANOTHER VIEW OF THE LAWN PROMENADE. PLENTY OF SEATING AND ACTIVITIES AROUND THE LAKE ITSELF. OVER THE BASKETBALL COURT , A NICE SHADE STRUCTURE. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER THE SCENE TO TALK SOME NUMBERS.

>> THANK YOU, DALE. ONE OF TH MAIN THINGS AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE PARKS BOARD IS THAT POTENTIALLY A VETERANS MEMORIAL IS DESIRED HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. EVEN WITH ALL OF THIS, PUTTING PLACING OF THE MEMORIAL ON THAT SITE WOULD NOT BE A CHALLENGE WHATSOEVER. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DESIGNED BEFORE THE BOARD GETS DESIGN. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE THERE IS A PLACEHOLDER AND APPROXIMATE SIZ IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE DESIGN OVERALL. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, WE BROUGHT UP PUMP TRACKS . NOT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT A PUMP TRACK IS. AS A MOUNT BAKER, YOU KNOW, I AM INTO THAT SORT OF THING. VIA MIXERS ARE ALSO REALLY BIG INT IT. BUT ESSENTIALLY, A PUMP TRACK IS SERIES OF UNDULATING, IT IS AN UNDULATING TRACK WHERE THE GOAL IS TO GET AROUND THE TRACK USING MOMENTUM RATHER THAN PEDALING. AND SO IT IS A MATTER OF SHIFTING WEIGHT BACK AND FORTH. MOUNTAIN BIKERS LIKE TO USE THESE TRACKS TO WORK ON SKILLS FOR LITTLE KIDS HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH IT AND THEY ARE REALLY GOOD AT IT. EMBARRASSINGLY SO.

IT'S REALLY SOMETIMES NOT A LO OF FUN TO WATCH THEM GO AND YOU

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THE EXISTING PLUS THE NEW, SOMETHING ON THE SCALE ABOUT THIS SIZE WOULD FIT IN THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THERE. IT IS JUST A PROGRAMMING FEATURE WE WOULD RECOMMEND WITHIN THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN TYPICALLY BE PHASED-IN AS WELL. OVERALL COST WHEN WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING YO SAW IN THE RENDERING, THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME POTENTIAL FLEXIBILITY. THIS IS A MASTER PLAN AT THIS STAGE. SO KNOWING HOW MUCH EVERYTHING IS GOING TO COST, ESPECIALLY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, HIS LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. WE TEND TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS WITH THE OTHER STAGES AS WELL. BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER, THIS INCLUDES ALL PROJECTS AS WELL. THIS WOULD INCLUDE DESIGN FEES ALSO. THIS ISN'T JUST CONSTRUCTION. IT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN PROBABLY 10 O 11,000,002 POTENTIALLY AS HIGH AS 13 TO 15 MILLION. DEPENDING ON SOME OF THE CHOICES THAT YOU MAKE. FOR EXAMPLE, COVERING THE BASKETBALL COURT TO MAKE IT MOR OF A PAVILION FOR EVENING EVENTS. THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT GOES INTO THAT. THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER CHOICES. WESTERN CHOICES, FOR EXAMPLE. IF YOU REFURBISH AN EXISTING RESTROOM, THAT IS ONE THING, VERSUS US BUILDING AN ENTIRELY NEW RESTROOM. AND SO A LOT OF THOSE CHOICES CAN BE MAD THROUGH DESIGN. IF YOU, WHERE WE HAVE A BUDGET OF RIGHT NOW FOR PHASE ONE, WE NEED TO BE AT THIS. WHAT WOULD TAKE PLACE IS WE WOULD DO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO ADDRESS THAT PHASE AND HAVE ALL THE REST OF THE DESIGN READY TO GO WITH THE MONEY DEDICATED FOR LATER. THE FLEXIBILITY CAN BE THERE. SAME THING WITH SOME OF THE PROGRAM CHOICES WITHIN THE PARK AS WELL. ONE OTHER THING WE WANTED TO POINT OUT. THE QUIET SPACES. YOU SAW THOSE THREE NODES OUTSIDE. THERE REALLY ORIENTED TO THE LESS OCCUPIED PORTION OF THE PARK. SOME OF THIS IS NOT ONLY FOR OLDER RESIDENTS OR FO COUPLES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A NICE EVENING LAW, BUT ALSO FOR CHILDREN WITH AUTISM . THEY HAV AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AT THE PLAYGROUND, BUT THEN SEPARATE AND GET A LITTLE BIT OF QUIET TIME. EXCUSE ME. HAVE A SPACE TO THEMSELVES. WE WANTED THAT T BE IN FAIRLY GOOD OXIMETRY TO THE PLAYGROUND SO THAT THEY AR NOT HAVING TO MAKE A CHOICE. THEY'RE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE FULLY, BUT THEN GET AWAY AND GET A LITTLE BIT OF A QUIET MOMENT. SO THAT IS SOME OF THE CONSCIOUSNESS WE TRIED TO BRING IN. WE BRING THAT INTO ALL OF OUR DESIGNS. SO WHAT WE LIKE T DO IS HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS YO HAVE SEEN. WE CAN GO FROM THERE

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I REALLY LOVE THE CONCEPT. MATCHING UP WITH THE -- TO DOWNTOWN TO FRITZ PARK WITH TH WATER AND THE FOUNTAINS AND EVERYTHING. I WAS LOOKING AT SECTION 23 ON THE MAP POINT IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN A COMP PARK? I WAS

THINKING MAYBE A STATE PARK? >> THEY COULD ALSO COULD GO THERE AS WELL. IN FACT, A LOT O SKATERS WILL USE PUMP TRACKS.

>> OKAY. >> GETTING BACK TO THAT REAL QUICK. THERE WE GO. DID I ZOO IN ACCIDENTALLY? DID I ACCIDENTALLY ZOOM IN? OKAY. OH, YEAH, BECAUSE OF THAT ONE PAGE. YEAH, THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. FOR EXAMPLE, HE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY LIKE A DOG PARK. BU IT WOULD BE A LARGE ENOUGH DOG PARK TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BUT I WOULD PROBABLY FRUSTRATE PEOPLE MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO IT COULD JUST BE ONE AREA IF YOU WANTED

IT TO BE. >> IT IS A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO PLUG IN THEIR . A REASONABLE SIZED SKEE FACILITY COULD GO IN THERE AS WELL AND BE INTEGRATED WITH THE CONTRACT. IN FACT, THE HOUSTON BIKE PARK WHERE I OFTENTIMES PRACTICE, I'VE GOT A PUMP TRACK AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS A SWIMMING POOL, IF YOU WILL. IT IS A GIANT ONE. YOU WILL SEE TH SKATEBOARDERS WORKING RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE BMX'ERS AND ALONGSIDE THAT MOUNTAIN BIKERS. YOU'LL SOMETIMES SEE THOSE

THINGS CLOSE TOGETHER. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT FOR THE FOOD TRUCK AREAS. YOU SAID THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME SPACE FOR SOME TRUCKS. I WAS GOING T HAVE AVAILABLE POWER WHERE THEY

CAN PLUG IN? >> ABSOLUTELY. THE GOAL THERE

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>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ONE OF THINGS I'VE NOTICED WHEN WE HAV AN EVENT WITH FOOD TRUCKS THERE THEY HAVE GOT THEIR GENERATORS.

SO NOISY. >> YES, IT IS NOISY.

>> IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON . 100%.

THANKS SO THAT IS GOOD TO HEAR.

>> ON THE SAME THING WITH THE STAGE. THAT WOULD HAVE A POWER SOME AS WELL. WITH SUFFICIENT POWER TO BE ABLE TO PUMP AND DRIVE AN AMP AND SPEAKERS TO HAVE THE COUNT OUT THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. TO USE THAT ASTROTURF WOULD BE AT THAT SECTION THAT IS NEXT TO THE BASKETBALL COURTS? WHAT ABOUT THAT LITTLE BOCCE BALL AREA? IS THAT IN VISION --? THAT WOUL ALSO BE, BOTH OF THOSE AREAS, W ENVISION THAT BEING SYNTHETIC.

PROBABLY MORE LIKE FIELD TURF, A GRASSY OR TYPE OF ARTIFICIAL

OPPOSED TO REAL. >> LOVE THE DESIGNS. VERY AMBITIOUS. BASED ON THE PRICE, TOO.

>> HAVING PERMISSION , AGAIN, YOUR CITY MANAGER AND JEFF, THEY ACTIVATED THE POSSIBILITY TO REALLY EXPLORE THIS PARK.

OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ITCHING, SPECIALLY ONCE YOU PASS THE PARK SPY, TO BE ABLE TO SEE OR DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT WITH IT. IT IS PRETTY DOLLAR EFFICIENT, QUITE FRANKLY. IT IS EXPENSIVE, OBVIOUSLY. BUT IT IS PRETTY DOLLAR EFFICIENT FOR WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT POINT

>> ONE LAST QUESTION. DOES IT INCLUDE A REHAB OF THE EXISTING PAVILION? PAINTING OR ANYTHING TO IT?

>> YES, IF Y'ALL WANTED. THAT I , IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT.

BUT YES, WE HAVE SOME MONIES IN THERE, IN OUR ESTIMATE THE COUN FOR A NEW PAINTING. POTENTIALLY PATCHING -- AND RECOVERING THE BASKETBALL COURT AS WELL. THAT WOULD ALSO BE RESURFACED.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES TO SEE IF THEY WANT T PARTNER AND GET NAMING RATES O THE SPLASH PAD OR LIKE FROM -- SHOWING SOMETHING OR ANOTHER COMPANY THAT WANTS TO GET IN ON THE PLAYGROUND PRESENTED BY SOM OTHER ENTITY. IF WE COULD DO THOSE THINGS, THEN THAT WOULD -- THAT DOLLAR COST.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE , I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES REALLY BUILD AND UTILIZE THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I KNOW THAT TO ME, THE EASIEST THING IS, WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE PARK FUND MONEY . LET'S GO SPEN IT. WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON? AND THEN WE HAVE TO AFFORD THAT. I THINK THE HARDER PART THAT IS EASIER ON THE TAX PAYER LONGER-TERM, SOMETHING GREAT LIKE THIS. LIKE THE HOUSE MEMBER SAID, THE BASKETBALL COURT IS NAMED BY SOMEBODY. TH SPLASH PAD BY SOMEBODY. THE OPEN COURT, WHATEVER THE BIKE THING WAS CALLED. ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SPONSORED TO WHERE YOU WALK IN AND PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT, BUT THEN THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO WORK A SECOND JOB ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, PAYING FOR THE TAXES THAT PAID FOR IT. IT WOULD BE NICER PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY NOT BE STRESSED AND ENJOY IT. I THINK THIS HAS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY WITH ALL OF THESE PLACES COMING IN. I THIN IT IS VERY DOABLE WITH WORKING AT IT.

>> SO ALL OF THESE LITTLE NODE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCH THINGS. THEY'RE NOT ISOLATED, I YOU WILL. THEY ARE VERY WELL DEFINED. IF Y'ALL ARE OPEN TO IT, I THINK A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ENTITIES MIGHT FIND IT ATTRACTIVE. THEY HAVE GOT SOME DEFINITION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PLAZA THEY KNOW THAT THAT IS, PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THAT IS. IT I OF PROFOUND SPACE AND THEY CAN GET THEIR VALUE OUT OF IT FOR SPONSORING.

>> I WILL MEET YOU AT THE SPLASH PAD OVER AT FRITZ PARK.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> IT'S BEAUTIFUL. NOT TO DYIN THAT POINT WHAT IS THE UPKEEP COST? DO YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER? IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE -- THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WITH REGULAR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COST FOR THAT AT THIS STAGE. BUT YOUR MOWING COST IS GOING TO COME DOWN . PROBABLY THE BIGGES CHANGE IN COST WOULD COME WITH TREE CARE. ONE OF THE THINGS WOULD BE RECOMMENDING WITHIN, WOULD BE SOME PLENARY STUFF FRO THE MASTER PLAN PERSPECTIVE. WE ALWAYS TRY TO SOURCE TREES THAT ARE AS INDIGENOUS TO THE AREA AS POSSIBLE. LOW MAINTENANCE

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, ALL . VERY MUCH.

[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

THAT WILL BE HIS CIP UPDATE NIGHT. WE ARE GETTING CLOSER TO WORLD HIPPO DAY. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY, BIG THING HERE HUTTO CELEBRATION IS WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH. AND FROM 4:00 T 6:00 P.M., EVERYBODY IS INVITED TO CITY HALL TO CELEBRATE ALL THINGS HIPPO. PHOTO OPS, GIVEAWAYS, EVEN THE PREMIERE OF A NEW FILM ABOUT THE HIPPO LEGEND. I'VE HEARD MIGHT BE THE RETURN OF THE BRIGHT LIGHTS OUTSIDE AND MAYBE EVEN AN ORANGE CARPET APPEARANCE THERE INSTEAD OF THE RED CARPET. AND MAYOR, FOR COUNSEL INFORMATION I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ITEM NUMBER 92 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THERE IS A SWAPOUT OF THE BIG TAB. THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME, EFFECTIVELY IS WHAT I ON THE AGENDA. WHAT IS THE BIG TAB ITSELF NEEDED TO BE UPDATED THAT IS BEEN SWAPPED OUT BUT IT SAYS HERE IT HAS BEEN SERVING

[7. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THAT BRINGS US TO CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS.

GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

>> I HAD ONE POINT I POSTED A WEEK AGO ABOUT PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEEN IF THEY ARE DRIVING , THE AT&T FIBER IS ASSIGNING A PEOPLE. I GOT CONFIRMATION FROM THE AT&T REPS THAT TODAY IS TH FIRST OFFICIAL DAY THEY CAN ACTUALLY SIGN UP TODAY. THEY WERE TAKING NUMBERS AHEAD OF TIME. BUT TODAY, THE FIRST SUBDIVISION OR OFF CALL ANOTHE SIDE OF THE STREET. HALF THE STREETS HAVE NOW FINISHED THEIR ENGINEERING TEST TO AND YOU CA

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>> THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> OKAY. SELECT ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR COUNSEL? ? I HAVE GOT ONE. SO SOME OF YOU KNOW I SERVE ON THE HUTTO DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND OCCLUSION COMMITTEE IT USED TO BE A TASK FORCE AND NOTICED THE COMMITTEE. THEY WIL BE HOSTING OUR NEXT PUBLIC FORUM. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE WINTER FORM. IT WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 1ST FROM 6:30 TO 7:45 AT THE NINTH-GRADE CENTER. AND SO WE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE ALL THE PUBLIC TO COME AND FIND OUT WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING AN THE GREAT WORK THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING. AND ALSO, WANTE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE TOPIC WILL BE SHARING THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT PLAN GOAL EIGHT TO CREATE A CULTURE OF EQUITY AND SAFETY IN EVERY DISTRICT HOLDIN AND IN EVERY CLASSROOM. THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK OVER THERE. I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TEAM WHO WITH THE CITY CHAIRMAN THERE.

JUST WANT TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO THAT. I POSTED IT ONLINE AS

WELL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHERS ?

>> IN LIGHT OF THAT, THIS WEEKEND IS THE LUNAR NEW YEAR.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSITY THA IS COMING TO HUTTO WHICH IS FANTASTIC. THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE THINGS WE CAN GROW WITH OUR EVENT PLANNING. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IS THIS WEEKEND. AND THEN THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE KICKED OFF THEIR FIRST ANNUAL 5K. THE WAL RUN. KIM CAN BITE. THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS A GREAT RISER PUT O BY THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE BUT ALL OF THE MONIES RAISED WILL GO BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR YOUTH INSIDE OF HUTTO. IT IS FANTASTIC. I HAVE DONE IT EVERY YEAR. I HAVE RUN THE BUT I DO LIKE. I THINK THERE'S AN OPTION TO A 10K OR A 5K. EITHE WAY, IT WAS TO A GREAT CAUSE AN USUALLY, WE GET A PRETTY AWESOM SHIRT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS? HEARING ON, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 72. CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.

NOLLIES ON REPORTS? I WILL GO AHEAD FOR THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. SO A LOT OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED THIS EVENING SO I'LL KIND OF REITERATE A FEW POINTS.

BUT OF COURSE, THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD LAST WEDNESDAY.

AND EVERY BOARD MEMBER WAS PRESENT SO THAT WAS GREAT TO SE EVERYBODY THERE. FYI, THE OPEN SEAT , SO IF ANYONE LIKE TO SERVE WITH PARKS, YOU CAN APPLY IN THE WEBSITE. SO YOU CA TELL THE -- THE MASTER CONCEPT WE SAW THIS EVENING. SO AGAIN, TO THE RESIDENTS , THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR INPUT ON THAT PRESENTATION. SO IF YOU HAVE AN QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE CONTACT JEFF OR THE -- AT PARD@HUTTOTX.GOV. AGAIN, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL , THEY DISCUSS IT EVERY, IS AN AGENDA ITEM ON EVERY MEETING. BUT THEY DO DISCUSS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THE PLACEMENT OF THAT. THE PARKS BOARD IS LOOKING TO WORK THE VETERANS MEMORIAL INTO 24.

IF ANYONE IS ANY INPUT ON THAT OR ANY OTHER IDEAS OF OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT THAT IS KIND OF THE ROUTE THAT THE PARKS BOARD IS RECOMMEND ADDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO ANY INPUT ON THAT.

BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK THA MEMORIAL INTO THIS BIG MASTER PLAN THAT HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOIN TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH.

ANOTHER THING THAT THEY DID WA THEY REASSIGNED PARK LIAISON.

SO EACH BOARD MEMBER IS NOW ASSIGNED A PARKING HUTTO, KIND OF AS ANOTHER PAIR OF EYES. MAKING SURE THAT JEFF AND THE CREW ARE MAINTAINING EVERYTHING. A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT. AND ALSO, KIND OF BEING THE LIAISON WITH RESIDENT IN THE AREA FOR ANY ISSUES. SO THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

ALSO, AS CITY MANAGER SAID , TH RESTROOMS AT . 20 COMMITTEE PARKER STARTING CONSTRUCTION FO THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY OF LAST YEAR. JUST KIND OF TIMELINE WISE. SO THEY'RE STARTING CONSTRUCTION. IT SHOUL BE FINISHED AT THE END OF FEBRUARY. SO IN ABOUT SIX WEEKS THE FULL RESTROOMS SHOULD BE IN

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THEY HAVE REALLY REVIVED THIS FRITZ PARK MASTER PLAN AND REALLY KIND OF PUSHED IT AND WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO DISCUSS IT. IT WAS ALWAYS 90% COMPLETE, THE DESIGN OF IT. THE REALLY GOT WITH JEFF , AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY MANAGER. KIND OF HIS TOUCH ON THINGS TO FINALIZE IT AND FINISH THAT GAP OF THE 10% TO BRING US THE PRESENTATION WE SAW. WHAT WE SAW EARLIER WAS GREAT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM REALLY KIND OF PUSHING THA TO IMPROVE FRITZ PARK AND FOR US TO INVEST IN OUR PARKS IN THE FUTURE. OF COURSE, THAT WAS THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE POTENTIAL OF THE PARK. FROM THERE, WE CAN DO OUR INPUT AND THEN GO FROM THERE AND INVEST I HUTTO AND THE PARKS. THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER LIAISO REPORTS? ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER YOU FIND IT APPROPRIATE IF I SHARE SOME OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT -- IS OR IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. I KNOW, W HAVE ANNOUNCED IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS. IF YOU DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE EVO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT THAT DEVELOPMENT FOR , I THINK, BOB AND I FIRST MET WITH THE DEVELOPER IN NOVEMBER OF 21. AND THEN, EVERYTHING CHANGED AN SO THEY HAVE REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB WORKING THIS. IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE APPROXIMATELY 52,000 SQUARE-FOOT VENUE. I DO KNOW HOW BIG THE HOME DEPOT IS. WHA THAT COMPARES TO, BUT I KNOW IT IS LIKE 80 OR 100,000 SQUARE FEET. SUPPOSED TO HAVE 10 BOWLING LANES. 7200 SQUARE FEE OF GAMING ATTRACTIONS. AND THEN WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN FOR HUTTO? IT'S EXPECTED TO BRING IN 3 MILLION IN SALES TAX REVENUE PER YEAR. THAT WOULD NEATLY BOOST OUR SALES TAX REVENUE 25%. ONCE THEY ARE OPE AND RUNNING. SO JUST THIS ONE GROUP WILL HAVE THAT BIG OF A INCREASE BUT ALMOST 3 MILLION I ONE YEAR WE CAN USE FOR PARKS, ROADS, SIDEWALKS , EMPLOYEES, ALL SORTS OF STUFF. SO WHEN HE SAID THAT WAS GOING TO OPEN, THAT WAS OUR BIG ONE THAT WE

HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. >> MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THAT AS PART OF EVO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME OTHER BUSINESSES COMING IN. THE WILL BE A SEPARATE PRESENTATION ON A SEPARATE NIGHT? MORE GREAT NEW COMING, IT SOUNDS LIKE? SMACK YOU, THIS IS ONE PIECE OF A BIG PROJECT.

>> I BELIEVE THE NEXT BIG ANNOUNCEMENT NIGHT IS THE SECON MEETING IN FEBRUARY. THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. SO SAVE

THE DATE. >>

>> ALI, ANY OTHER LIAISON REPORTS? I'M HEARING ON. IF AN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. HEARING ON, WILL MOVE ON TO

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PEERS. >> WENT WITH A SOUND DECISION AND THEN HE FLIPPED HIS VOTE TO ASK FOR THE MONEY BACK. I WOUL CONSIDER THAT WELL-MANAGED EITHER.

WHEN THERE WAS MERIT TO FIRE WITH CAUSE, AND TO ASK HIM ABOUT IT. I DO KNOW WHAT HE WOULD SAY, BUT THAT IS KIND OF THE TIME. ALSO RELATED TO CONNECTEDNESS IN EVERY SENSE, THERE WAS NO PLAN IN THIS PLAN FOR NATURE CONSERVATION. SO HO ARE WORKING TOWARD THE VISION O HONORING HISTORY AND CULTURE WITHOUT BEING ECO-CONSCIOUS? OR ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSERVATIVE AND SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE? AND WHAT IS SUSTAINABLE EVEN MEAN T EVERYBODY? IS IT FOOD, OR ELECTRIC? ALSO, I FOUND THE WORDING ALL WALKS OF LIFE TO BE UNPROFESSIONAL. IT MAY BE BETTE TO SAY PEOPLE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS OR EXCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE. MY BIG CONCERN IS JUST THAT IN THE HOUSING ASSESSMENT ON 162, DOESN'T TAKE -- THE SUBDIVISION FOUNDATION REPAIRS ISSUES WITH THREE OR STARTING TO SEE ACROSS THE CITY. ALSO, THE ADDING ALL OF THIS IMPERVIOUS COVER WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ISSUE. AND JUST TODAY, THERE WAS A -- IN GLENWOOD PRISON WITHOUT THE PAVING ASSESSMENT, THE RANGE REPORTS, I DON'T THINK WE ARE READY TO APPROVE THIS REPORT

TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE --

PEREZ. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING PEOPL THAT DO NOT LIVE IN HUTTO TO SERVE ON THE FOUR OF THEM BUT AFTER TONIGHT, I WENT TO CALL MAYOR -- TO SEE IF HE WANTS TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL GET. I KNO A GUY FROM GEORGETOWN THAT IS A PART OWNER OF BUSINESS IN HUTTO THAT CAN BE A RESIDENT TO SERV ON THE HUTTO CITY COUNCIL. ALSO MASKING THE PEOPLE OF HUTTO DELIVER QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. NO PETTINESS OR BA BEHAVIOR. JUST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO RIGHT FOR HUTTO, TEXAS. YOU GOT MY VOTE FOR HUTTO PLACE ONE. ONE MORE THING. PETER GORDON. IF RE-ELECTED, YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IN HUTTO? IF I MEMBER RIGHT, YOU VOTED FOR OTIS'S GOLDEN PARACHUTE. LET'S WORK ON GIVING OUR HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT A GOOD PAY RAISE.

WHILE OUR COUNSEL CITY MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO REFUSE THE REQUIRED BY OUR CHARTER IF THEY DON'T GET PAID, THEY ARE NOT ON COUNSEL. I WILL USE MY READING TIME TO ADD A WAIVER. TRACK NEXT, WE HAVE -- WAIVER POIN

>> HELLO. I DO LIVE IN HUTTO. THIS IS MY VISION. I ENVISION PEDESTRIAN ONLY COMMERCIAL TOW WITH SUBTLE LANES AND A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER HIGHWAY 79. CREATE AN E STREET PEDESTRIAN LOT WITH POP-UP SEATING , STROLLING, AND MUSIC FOR LINE DANCING BUT DOESN'T MEET THE AREA AS OPEN BEVERAGE CARRY, SERVICE BY E STREET RESTAURANTS AND LOTS . WHERE TH LOVER LOT ONCE OR, BUILD A FULL-SERVICE COMMITTEE CENTER WITH MULTIPLE FLOOR PARKING. RE-CREATE THE ORIGINAL FACADES ON THE EAST SIDE OF E STREET WITH CONTEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION BUILDING METHODS. FOR ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT DEVELOPMENT. PARK FEATURES . LUSCIOUS LANDSCAPING TREES AND STATUTORY ART COULD B WOVEN INTO THIS PLAN. BUILDING EXTERIORS WOULD PROVIDE A PALLE FOR PROMOTING -- AND IS THE SILOS NOW FOR THE CO-OP. PLAYIN ON THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE AND SIGNAGE OF OUR HISTORICAL BUILDINGS. ARCHITECTURAL ART COULD BE USED HERE TO REFLECT THE CULTURAL THIS OF THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. WE HAVE AMAZING ARCHITECTURAL ARTISTS RIGHT HER IN HUTTO. THIS PLAN WRAPS UP OUR OLD TINE TRADITION AND FUNCTIONALITY , AND WILL SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS BETTER THAN THE CONCEPT PROPOSE IN THIS PLAN. FIGURE 8.9 ILLUSTRATES THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE LAND BORDERED BY EASTERN ARTISTRY, -- IT INCLUDES A SIDE OF THE FORWARD

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FIGURE 8.9 DOES NOT EVEN SHOW THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HISTORICAL BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT.

THOSE ARE CONCEPT DOES NOT TAK INTO THE COUNT THE IN PROCESS TRAFFIC UPGRADE FOR HIGHWAY 79 AND 6060 INTERSECTION, THE RETURN LINE. OVERSIGHT OR IGNORANCE? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THE 60 AND 60 NORTH RIGHT TO REMAIN WITH ASSOCIATED EASEMENT AND SETBACKS WOULD LEAVE AN ADEQUATE SPACE FOR THE PROPOSED HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ENVISIONED IN 8.9 IN THE PLAN.

SO WHY A SHINY OBJECT WAS PLACED IN THE WAY OF SERIOUS DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS BLOCK THIS DISREGARDS THE TUMULTUOUS EARLY HISTORY OF HUTTO. IT IS JUST A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT OF THE PLANNERS EVALUATION. IT DISTRACTS FROM A COULD BE AN UPLIFTING AND USEFUL PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS AREA. WE CAN DO BETTER. OUR HUTTO HISTORICA TREASURES SHOULD BE ENVISION TO ALLOW RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO MORE FULLY ENJOY DOWNTOWN WHILE PROVIDING NEEDED PARKING AND MEETING SPACE AND BY OPENING UP OUR DOWNTOWN TO PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES. IT WOULD SHOWCASE MEMORIES, SWEET AND TRAGIC , OF OUR HERITAGE. IT WOULD BE AN EVEN MORE AMAZING PLACE TO HOST OUR CITY EVENTS.

THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. I TO READ THE ENTIRE , THE ENTIRE PLAN, WORD FOR WORD. IT IS RIF WITH THESE TYPES OF THINGS! IN ACCURACY, JUST RIDICULOUS STUFF AND BAD GRAMMAR. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THAT IF THAT CAME ACROSS MY DESK WHEN I WAS WORKING, IF IT CAME TO ME, I WOULD HAVE PUSHED IT RIGHT BACK TO THEM. I WOULD'VE SAID BRING IT BACK WHEN YOU ARE READY TO

EARN YOUR $500,000. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, WE HAVE JAMES WEAVER.

I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN HUTTO. THE DRAFT REPORT HAS BEEN SENDING US A DIFFICULT TIME DISCUSSING THE CO-OP IN -- JUS WHAT I'M LOOKING THIS FROM A JADED FORENSIC EXAMINER MIND-SET. THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY RED FLAGS HERE. -- SAFET AND SOUNDNESS. IS A COOL INVESTMENT SOUND AND STAND A GOOD CHANCE TO BE COMPLETED WITHOUT FINANCIAL LOSS? IF MY CONSUMER OPINION MAY BE ON THE HOOK FOR LOSSES CAUSED BY THIS PROJECT. -- HAS BEEN IN DEFAUL THREE TIMES A NEED TO BE RESTRUCTURED TO ENSURE IT IS COMPLETED IN A TIMELY AND TRADITIONAL MANNER. THE EXTENT OF LOSS IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME AN UPDATED APPRAISAL AND CURREN OPERATING STATEMENTS , DETAILS, EXPENDITURES, ANALYSIS OF MARKET EFFORTS, AND OTHER FINANCIAL STUDIES MUST BE COMPLETED. WE MUST DETERMINE THE CURRENT VALUE OF THIS VENTURE IN ORDER TO PROTECT TH VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT. FOR SEVERAL REASONS, I CALLED INVESTMENT A SUBSTANDARD ASSET. I SEE SEVERAL BREAKDOWNS IN UNDERWRITING. LET'S START WITH THE BID. IF THE BID FINALIZED? FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH IS STILL IN OPERATION FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS AFTER THIS DEAL. THE CHURCH IS A TAX-EXEMPT ENTITY. IT ALSO APPEARS TO BE A FAILURE TO ENFORCE TIMELY ENFORCEMENT TRIGGERS IN THE OPERATING DOCUMENTS. TECHNICAL EXPERTISE EXPERIENCED IN SOME FORMS OF DEVELOPMENT ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRANSFERRED TO DIFFERENT SPECIALIZED VENTURES SUCH AS THIS. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN VACUUM OF SUPERVISION DUE TO LAYOFFS, COVID, AND WEATHER.

LIKE WITH, THERE IS A LACK OF ATTENTION TO CHANGING ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. THESE FACTORS DID NOT CAUSE A PROBLEM, BUT RATHER MATCHED THEM. MOST OF ALL, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT EVEN IN THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN IT WAS PROPERL DOCUMENTED OR VETTED. THESE COMMITMENTS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT WERE THEY REAL? OR JUST WAIT FOR AN AGGRESSIVE OWNER TO CREATE A BOGUS OR INFLATED ROI? I'M NOT PRIVY TO THE JV DOCUMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. SO I'M NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIONS NEED TO BE TAKEN BY THE CITY. THIS JV NEEDS TO BE REASSESSED TO PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR GOING FORWARD. DON'T BUILD ON THE BAD FOUNDATION. YOU HAVE HEARD THAT BEFORE. HAVE REAL ESTATE AND LEGAL PROFESSIONALS ADVISE YOU ON THIS. I HAVE SAID HERE AND WATCHED OUR CITY PREP OVER THI THING FOR CLOSE TO FOUR YEARS. TURN THIS INTO A BEAUTIFUL

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THIS BRINGS US TO THE CONSEN AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE ITEMS 9-1, 9-2, NINE HAVE BEEN THREE 9-4, 9-5, NINE -- AND 9-14 UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

[12.4. Reconsideration and possible action regarding the qualifications of City Council member Place 5 as described in the Hutto Charter section 3.02 and any related action per the charter in accordance with Section 3.06(b)(1) including but not limited to forfeiture of office. (Councilmember Thornton)]

>> THE CONSULATE ALLOW, I WOUL LIKE TO MOVE TO -- ANY

OBJECTIONS? >> HEARING ON, LET'S MOVE ON T ITEM 12.4. POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE QUALIFICATIONS OF CITY COUNCILMEMBER AS DESCRIBE IN THE HUTTO SECTION 3.02. AN ANY RELATED ACTION FOR THE CHARTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 3.0 6B 1 , INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO , FORFEITURE

OF OFFICE. >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NECESSARILY BE AFTER 11.1 BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE TOPI WAS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. POTENTIALLY SETTING A DEFINITION. OR RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY. AND SO IF WE SET A NEW DEFINITION FOR THE CITY, THEN THAT CAN CHANGE THE SERVICES AND AFFECT THE VOTE BU I THINK 11.1 SHOULD BE ADDRESSE BEFORE 12.2. DRAG I THINK BASED ON THE LEGAL MEMOS WE GOT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, I AGREE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE FUTURE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE DIVISIONS BASED ON STATE LAW AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND VOTE ON A FORFEITURE AFTER-THE-FACT AND THE RESIGNATION IS ABATING ACCEPTED BY THE CITY AS OF -- , I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT SHOULD REMAIN TO 12.4, AND LESS I AM

NOT SEEING IT RIGHT. >> I WOULD SAY -- I DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT STATE LAW. WHAT I READ WAS, IS A KIND OF UNCHARTED TERRITORY. MOST PEOPL RESIGN WHEN THEY MOVE OUT OF TH CITY. HERE, IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. RESIGNING, NOT LIVING IN THE CITY, LIVING OUT. AND NOW WE ARE PICKING AND CHOOSING HOW TO DEFINE RESIDENCY. BEFORE, I THINK THE COMMON THOUGHT OF RESIDENCY WAS THAT -- IN HUTTO. YOU LEAVE YOUR HEAD DOWN IN HUTTO. NOT THAT YOU LIVED IN MINNESOTA OR WISCONSIN YOU ARE FLYING THAT FOR MEETINGS. I THINK IT IS CAUSING A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE. I THINK IT BRINGS UP SOMETHING THAT IS TYPICAL FOR HUTTO CITY COUNCIL AS AN UNCHARTED DEAL BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT THAT WITH THIS -- BUT AFTER OUR TALK AT THE LAST MEETING, I DID SOME LOOKING AND I MENTIONED SOME O THE COURT CASES. IF YOU DON'T HAVE DEFINITIONS DEFINE, A PERSON CAN GET A VOTER CARD AT THE BUSINESS. A PERSON UNDER OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS CAN HAVE A BUSINESS IN HUTTO, NOT LIVE IN HUTTO, AND A RUN FOR OFFICE IN HUTTO. ALSO, THERE WA A CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO OF THE PERSONS WHO OWN ALL LOT OF LAND AND HAD MAIL DELIVERED THERE. IT WAS FOUND BY A COURT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DEFINITION THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO HOLD OFFICE AND RUN FOR OFFICE. SO SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DEFINITION RESIDING IS AN RESIDENCE IS. BECAUSE AS WE HAV IT NOW, POTENTIALLY, ANY BUSINESS OWNER THAT OWNS PROPERLY IN HUTTO CANNOT RUN FO OFFICE . ANYBODY WHO LIVED HERE AND THEN MOVED AND RUN FOR OFFICE. SO I DON'T --

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE IT WAS BACK ON THE AGENDA. HONESTLY, IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW IF I

WOULD -- >> I DOUBT THAT.

>> AND THE REASON WHY IS IT I A RECONSIDERATION OF A PAST ITEM. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO PUT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM BEFORE IT IS BRAND-NEW, BUT ACTUALLY RECONSIDERING SOMETHING FROM A PAST MEETING. SO TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO DANCE AROUND SOMETHIN AND TRYING SO HARD TO GET THIS I NEED TO GO FIRST. AND THIS CA GO THIS WAY. SO IF WE ARE GOIN TO DO THE AGENDA ITEM WILL .4, IF IT IS A FORFEITURE OF OFFICE I AM ALL FOR THAT. AND IF THERE IS A QUESTION BY RESIDENCE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I NEED TO KNO THE ANSWER TO THIS FIRST.

BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN 12.4 THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A FORFEITURE OF OFFICE, THEN ALL THE ROADS AND

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>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BACKDATING COMES SOME. I NEVER SAID RETROACTIVELY . SAY THAT I WAS FORWARDED BEFORE. SO THE WA LOOKED AT THIS IS I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE.

YOUR HOUSE COULD BE SOLD TOMORROW. AND SO THAT CHANGES THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE FORFEITURE. THERE ARE OTHER CONDITIONS OF FORFEITURE IN THE CHARTER. YOU COULD MISS SEVERA MEETINGS IN A ROW AND TRIGGER FORFEITURE UNDER THAT. NOBODY HAD ANY INFORMATION WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS REQUESTED , SAYING THAT YOU COULDN'T DECLAR FORFEITURE AFTER A SEAT WAS THINK IT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION UNTIL WE GOT A LEGA MEMO AFTER THIS WAS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA. I STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TOO. THE LEGAL OPINION SEEMS TO BE THAT BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T MENTION FORFEITURE, THA FORFEITURE CANNOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON SOMEBODY IN -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ALL LOGICALLY MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE UNDER THAT , BASICALLY, THE CONSTITUTION SAYS YOU COULD BE A HOLDOVER. GOOD FOR FOR FOR AN REASON. YOU CAN FORFEIT, NOT YOU, BUT SOMEBODY COULD FORFEIT FOR BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME OF MORAL FORTITUDE AND THEIR SEAT BECOMES VACANT AND IN THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THE VACANCY I A HOLDOVER.

>> NO, NO. THE VACANCY , THE HOLDOVER ONLY APPLIES IF THEY RESIGN. IF YOU CAUSE A FORFEITURE, YOU CAN'T DO A

HOLDOVER. >> SO SOMEBODY COULD RESIGN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOIN TO BE KICKED OUT BECAUSE THE MEETING IS TWO WEEKS AWAY THEY CAN RE-SIGN. EIGHT DAYS LATER

THEY HAVE GOT A HOLDOVER. >> EXACTLY.

>> IT IS A HOLD.

SEPARATE, I AM NOT -- THERE PROBABLY HOLD ANOTHER W

>> THERE ARE, AND HUTTO SEEMS T FIND IT.

>> NO, WE DO. LAUGHTER MAKES THEM EXERCISE BACKDATING, I'M GOING OFF OF THE AGENDA ITEM REPORT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THI THAT THE PUBLIC GOT.

ON THE AGENDA ITEM REPORT FOR 12.4, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. THAT IS WHERE I'M GETTING THAT. IF THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE JANUARY 5TH OR SIX. IT IS REALLY, THE RESIGNATION HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED. IT HAS BEEN EIGHT DAY SINCE IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. I IS AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTED. SO THE RESIGNATION IS THERE. SO TH HOLDOVER PROVISION APPLIES. SO WE HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED IT , THE RESIGNATION. BUT NOW WE WAN TO GO BACK AND SAY, NO, WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS DEFINITION SO THEN WE ARE GOING TO BACKDATE I AND IT BECOMES A FORFEITURE. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SEEING AND TRYING SO HARD TO MANIPULATE WHAT IS GOING ON. I GOT AND ASKED FOR AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT.

>> I UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT IS WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM REPORT SAYS. AND THAT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS. SO I JUST --

>> CITY COUNCIL, IF I MAY. I AM THE ONE THAT WORDED IT RECONSIDERATION AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF ROBERT RULES OF ORDER. BECAUSE IT ALREADY TAKE ACTION ON THE EXACT WORDING OF THIS ITEM BY TAKING NO ACTION. SO IN ORDER TO BRING IT BACK, ROBERTS RULES , REQUIRES IT TO BE A RECONSIDERATION. SO PUT IT RECONSIDERATION DOESN'T MEAN BACKDATING NECESSARILY. BECAUSE SURFACE ANSWERS CAN CHANGE POIN

>> I LOOKED AT THE IF YOU WERE GOING TO DECLARE THE OFFICE FOR RICHARD, YOU HAD TO DO IT BEFORE A RESIGNATION TOOK EFFECT BY OPERATION OF LAW. BECAUSE ONCE THE OFFICE HOLDER HAS RESIGNED , AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT BY OPERATION OF LAW, AN THE ORGAN THE CONSTITUTIONAL STATUS OF HOLDOVER AND IT SAYS YOU CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL YOU SUCCESSOR IS DULY MOLLIFIED.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT RESEARCH AND CASES AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, COULD YOU, SINCE THE PERSON IS A HOLDOVER, IF THEY MOVED OUT OF TOWN, OR IF THEY DID SOMETHING ELSE , THAT CONSTITUTED A FORFEITURE OF OFFICE, COULD THAT EVER APPLY BECAUSE OF HOW THE CONSTITUTION IS WORDED, WE THINK YOU ARE PREEMPTED. THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK YOUR CHARTER WOULD BE , THE COMMITTEE, MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT CLARIFYING. CIRCLES THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER KENZIE KRYSTAL KINSEY RESIGNED

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>> WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T? WHAT HAPPENS IF SHE JUST SAYS I AM NOT GOING TO FOLLOW ANYTHING AN I'M GOING TO START HANGING OUT CITY HALL AND TELL THEM WHAT T DO. IF WE CAN EVER FORFEIT A PERSON WITH A RESIGN, TO THE COUNCILMEMBER 'POINT, IF YOU DI SOMETHING REALLY BAD, A COUNCILMEMBER IN THE FUTURE, AN ALL THE SUDDEN, I'M GOING TO GE KICKED OUT OF OFFICE. BUT IF I RESIGN RIGHT NOW AND THEY WANT FIND OUT AND ACCEPT IT AND 80S PASSES, THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. THEY COULD'VE ROBBED OF VAGUE AND GOT CAUGHT BUT IT WOULDN'T MATTER. ERIC IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW, AND IF THEY DON'T UPHOLD THE OATH OF OFFICE THEN YOU WOULD SET WHAT OTHER CRIMINAL PENALTY WAS ATTACHED T IT WAS TO BE TO THE ETHICS ORDINANCE BUT IT WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO THE MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES AND BE PROSECUTED I MEDICINE BOW COURT. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CRIME OF MORAL FORTITUDE AND SHE NEEDED TO SERVE JAIL TIME. SHE WOULDN'T BE A HOLDOVER AND SERVING AT TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO , YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ACTION IN WHICH YOU DID AND TH LEGAL COUNSEL POINT THAT AS FAR AS CONTINUING TO SERVE, THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS HER TO CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL THE SUCCESSOR'S IS DULY QUALIFIED.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THIS. I YOU WANT CLARITY AND COLOR ON THIS, BECAUSE , FROM WHAT I REA IN THE LEGAL MEMO, AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION , THE CONSTITUTION STAT LAWS ARE SILENT. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT BASED ON HUTTO SECTION 3.02 AND SECTION 3.0 6B 1, THAT KRYSTAL KINSEY HAS FORWARDED HER OFFICE TO FOR NOT RESIDING AS A COMMON KNOWLEDGE OF RESIDING IN THE CITY OF HUTTO.

>> SECOND. >> I KNOW THAT WHATEVER WE CA SAY BACKDATING COULD BE COSTING TAXPAYER MONEY. AS I SAID LAST MEETING , I BELIEVE IT IS THE PROFESSIONAL WAY TO HAVE DONE THIS WAS DUE AT THE WHAT YOU KNOW ARE GOING TO BE MOVING YOU PHYSICAL ITEMS AND THINGS OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD OUT OF HUTTO, I THINK THE PROPER METHOD WOULD HAVE BEEN TO NOT PUT US IN THI POSITION , TO HAVE A MEETING, HAVE A RESOLUTION, WHERE WE AS COUNSEL DISCUSS IT AND SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION, EFFECTIVE SUCH AND SUCH DATE. NOT TO TRIGGER AN EARLY SPECIAL ELECTION. BUT BY STAYING AND DOING ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF, TO ME, IT HAS FORCED US TO EITHER JUST TRY TO FIND A WAY TO NOT FOLLOW THE CHARTER AND COME UP WITH , YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT AREN'T MENTIONED IN THE CONSTITUTION.

WITH DOUBLE PAYS AND EVERYTHING I THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY

TO DO THIS. AND SO -- >> I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS ON THAT. PROFESSIONAL , I MEAN, FEEL LIKE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY , ONCE WE KNEW THERE WA EVEN A JOB OFFER ON THE TABLE, SAID IN A PUBLIC MEETING. I EXPLAINED THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

THE DAY BEFORE I SUBMITTED MY RESIGNATION, I ANNOUNCED IT AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER. SO I HAVE NO IDEA OF KNOWING WHAT THIS WOULD HAVE CAUSED. I THOUGHT THAT MY TRANSPARENCY WAS A GOOD THING. AND NOW IT I BEING TWISTED AS AN UGLY, MANIPULATIVE, I KNEW THIS WAS WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I SUBMITTED MY RESIGNATION. NOW YOU CAN'T MAKE ME FORFEIT AND ALL OF THESE CRAZY HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS. I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT MUCH THOUGHT OF HOW I CAN GET THE CITY OF HUTTO DID NOT GO INTO THAT AT ALL. SO IN MY OPINION, I FEEL LIKE I REALLY DID TRY TO DO EVERYTHING ON THE UP AND UP, AS HE WOULD SAY. THIS IS UNCHARTED TERRITORY.

LIKE YOU SAID. I THINK, ULTIMATE, DO YOU WANT TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF VOICES THAT REPRESENT THE CITIZENS? TH

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I WAS DISHEARTENED TO SEE THAT IT WAS PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

THE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MOS CONTENTION WITH IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO ME. THAT IS WHAT IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT, YES WIT ME TO INDICATE WITH YOU, BUT THAT IS A TWO WAY STREET POINT DID NOT GET RECIPROCATED BACK T ME. IT SEEMS THAT WE AGREE WIT LEGAL AND LEGAL SAYS WHATEVER IT GOES ALONG WITH CERTAIN COUNCILMEMBERS. WHENEVER IT DOESN'T, AS IT BEING IN MULTIPL MEETINGS, DRUG OUT, STAFF TIME, LEGAL TIME, AND IN AG OPINIONS THAT REALLY AREN'T VER CONCLUSIVE AND DON'T GET US ANYWHERE. SO WHAT IS REALLY DUE FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO? WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE TO THE CITIZENS? WE NEED TO START OPERATING AND LOOKING FORWARD MIND-SET. OKAY YOU FOUND THERE IS AN ISSUE.

UNDERSTOOD. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT DONE WITH MALICIOUS INTENT. AND LET'S FIX IT. WE CAN FIX IT. WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I FEEL LIKE IT IS, IT HAS BECOME A MUCH DIFFERENT AGENDA THAN WHAT IS BEING PORTRAYED. I JUST THINK THAT IF WILL FEEL I AM NO LONGER DOING POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE CITY , IF YOU THINK I DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR TH WANT TO SERVE THE CITY, THEN YES. HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

>> SODA MY UNDERSTANDING , DOTTIE, BY TEXAS STATE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE O TEXAS, CRYSTAL HAS RESIGNED HER SEAT. AND KRYSTAL KINSEY IS LEGALLY A HOLDOVER. IS THAT CORRECT? THE CORRECT PERIOD ONLY TOOK OATH OF OFFICE, ALL O US, WE SWORE THAT WE WOULD DO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF TH UNITED STATES AND THE STATE. SO HELP ME GOD. AND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO IS TO VIOLATE OUR OATH OF OFFICE.

>> ANY COMMENTS? >> THAT WILL BE I WILL ALWAYS UPHOLD THE STATE CONSTITUTION . I MADE THAT VERY CLEAR. YOU HAVE SEEN IT FROM, AND I WOULD ASK FOR THE MEMO TO BE RELEASED TO SEE THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODES THAT APPLY TO THIS. PEOPL MAY NOT LIKE IT TONIGHT. AND W MAY BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT IT CAN'T , THIS COLD OVER THING CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

AS OF NOW, THAT IS WHAT THE STATE CONSTITUTION SAYS AND THA IS LEGALLY WHAT IS HAPPENED. AN I'M NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST THE STATE CONSTITUTION. I AM SORRY BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> -- OFFICE BECAUSE REC MY COMMENT IS ON THE SIMILAR LINES FOR THE WAIVER THE MEMO, I'M GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN CLARK MENTIONED ABOUT RELEASING THE MEMO. I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION TONIGHT. THEY READ IT AND UNDERSTOOD IT WAS THE SAME. THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION BY THE PROCESS WE WERE FOLLOWING RIGHT NOW. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THI IS KIND OF UNCHARTED WATERS FO HUTTO BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF RESIGNATIONS OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS AND EVERY ONE OF

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>> I GUESS AS FAR AS I GO, O THIS ISSUE, DO WE NEED TO DEFINE RESIDENCY? ABSOLUTELY. WAS A PROPONENT OF GOING AHEAD WITH CHARTER REVIEW AMENDMENTS , AND ALSO POSSIBLY PUTTING THEM ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS UPCOMING ELECTION. SO I WAS KIN OF ON THAT PATH. I THINK THAT THIS, IF WE COULD HAVE LAST-MINUTE HYPOTHETICALS, RIGHT? IF WE DO THAT HYPOTHETICAL, IF WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT MEASURE TO KIND OF SEES THE BALLOT AND MAYBE A COULD'VE BEEN EASY FOR PEOPLE T EVEN ADD THIS. WE COULD AMEND I AND PUT IT ON AS AMENDMENT TO OUR CHARTER SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN HAVE THEIR INPUT ON THIS TOPIC. IT COULD'VE BEE SOMETHING. LEGAL COULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE LIST AND THEN WE COULD HAVE, THEY COULD'VE EASIL OR QUICKLY, STIFFLY WORKED HARD TO PUT THIS ON THERE SO THAT TH RESIDENTS COULD HELP COUNSEL I DETERMINING RESIDENCY AND DEFINING THAT. SO ABSOLUTELY, W NEED TO DEFINE IT. SO THAT IS WHERE I AM OUT WITH THAT AND THEN BECAUSE RESIDENTS THE IN OUR CHARTER AND ORDINANCES , AND THEN ALSO IN STATE LAWS , I IS VERY BROADLY DEFINED.

UNFORTUNATELY. THAT IS THE LEGAL WORLD. THE LEGAL WORLD IS VERY , I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. IT IS ALL ABOUT INTERPRETATION. I AM NOT A LAWYER, BUT IT IS ALL ABOUT INTERPRETATION . TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, HE READ SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT SOMEONE HAVING A LOT OF LAND AND HAVING MEAL THERE.

THAT IS THE CASE. AND THAT IS ALLOWED BY LAW FOR YOU TO RUN FOR OFFICE. WHETHER YOU THINK IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG, I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OPINION AND THEIR STANCE ON THAT SCENARIO.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A SCENARIO HERE. BUT BECAUSE RESIDENCY IS VERY BROADLY DEFINED IN STATUTE, AND THEN ALSO, IS NOT DEFINED IN OUR CHARTER. IT IS HARD TO ESTABLISH THAT. SO I WILL UPHOLD MY OATH AS OF OFFICE AS

WELL. >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH PART OF THE MOTION THAT THE NUMBER GET RELEASED?

>> ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF -- >> A FOLLOW-UP MEMO. I AM

ASSUMING -- >> I WOULD SAY EVERYTHING.

>> I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMEONE IS FOLLOWING THE CHARTER OR STATE LAW OR SILENCE ON THIS. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY, HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ROBIN SUTTON? WAIT, HOLD ON A SECOND.

>> THE MOTION IS TO DECLARE TH PLACE FIVE POSITION AS FORFEITE , BASED ON SECTION 3.02 AND 3.0 B 1 OF THE CHARTER. AND TO RELEASE ALL LEGAL MEMOS THAT PERTAIN TO A.

>> THE MEMOS, THE LEGAL MEMOS ARE SEPARATE?

>> WHY DO WE JUST DO THIS VOTE AND THEN SOMEONE WANTS TO COME BACK WITH THE VOTE TO RELEASE THE MEMOS ONLY. I DON'T -- THA WE WILL GET ALL OF THESE SPLIT VOTES AND GET ALL CONFUSED. ALL

RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> FOR MEMBER ROBIN SUTTON?

>> NÉE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL

KINSEY? -- >> AYE. COUNCILMEMBER -- .30

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? >> NAY. CHEMICAL

>> THE DOUBLE ESTIMATE THE COUNSEL FAILS.

>> I MAKE THE MOTION TO RELEASE ALL LEGAL MEMOS REGARDING THE RESIDENCY OF COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL KINSEY.

>> SECOND. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IS I A CONFLICT TO BE -- WHEN YOU ARE A PART OF IT.

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>> NO, BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE EVEN THOUGH SHE HAS PAID TO HOLD THE OFFICE, AND DOESN'T ANNOUNCE 10% OF HER SALARY SO THERE IS NO CHAPTER 171 CONFLIC OF INTEREST. THERE IS NO OTHER DEFINITION WITHIN THE ETHICS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD APPLY TO

PREVENT HER FROM VOTING. >> AND CAN WE LOOK AT EMAIL TOO EMAIL THAT JUST WENT OUT TO I THINK, DAN HAD A QUICK QUESTION

. >> I MEAN, THE ONE BACK TWO MONTH AGO. ASKING ABOUT THE EMAIL THAT --?

>> THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD QUESTION TO ADD TO IT , ALL THE EMAILS REGARDING THIS PARTICULA 12.4 ITEM.

>> I'M SORRY. HE SAID OF THE COUNSEL PAY ADDS UP TO 10%?

>> THAT'S WHAT CHAPTER 171 SAYS .

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT. SO AS AT 10% OF YOUR SALARY OR THAT LESS

THAN 10%? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE

SAYING. >> OKAY. SO THE MOTION TO RELEASE ALL LEGAL MEMOS AND EMAILS RELATING TO THE RESIDENC

QUESTION. >> 12.4.

>> I'M SORRY? >> AND 12.4, THE ITEM.

>> 12.4. >> ALL RIGHT. THE DISCUSSION O THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE .

>> COUNCILMEMBER -- AYE . CONSUMMATE BIRTHER? AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER GORDON -- AYE . COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL KINSEY?

[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ]

AYE. >> THE MOTION PATCHES 7-0. OKAY WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THOSE ITEMS 9.1 29.14 FOR CONSIDERATION. ? I'VE A QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO

AMEND 9.2? >> NO, COUNCILMEMBER. THERE IS NO REASON TO AMEND IT. IT IS A SUBSTITUTION OF YOUR PACKET AND

THE BID TAB. >> OKAY.

>> $50 LESS AND POTENTIALLY APPROVED.

>> NO, THAT IS WHAT THE VERB I SAYS, BUT THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY ACCURATE. THE BID TAB, THE AMOUNT IS THE -- THE BID TAB THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKE DID NOT INCLUDE THE KOHLER GENERATOR ALTERNATE. SO THAT IS WHAT GETS YOU TO THE 43950.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET, THAT NUMBER IS IN THE LOWER 300,000 FOR THAT IS WHY THE TAB MISSED THAT LINE. IT NEEDED TO INCLUDE

IT. SPENT SO THE ITEMS AS -- >> THAT IS CORRECT. YOU CAN HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS THE BID AMOUNT HAS BEEN REVISED

TO 43, 900. >> YEAH, WHO EVER DID THAT, THAT IS A TYPO. IT IS 48, 950. THE ISSUE IS THE TAB ITSELF, WHICH IS WHAT IS REPLACED. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA IS CORRECT. TURKEY IS TALKING ABOUT --

>> YEAH, THERE WAS A LITTLE NARRATIVE THAT SOMEONE ON STAF HANDED OUT TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION.

>> TO PRESENT THE ASCENT AGEND ?

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ROBIN SUTTON. APPROVING THE

CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> CAN I MAKE ONE STATEMENT?

>> YES. >> SO ONE THING WE HAVE ASKED STAFF TO CHANGE OVER TIME IS THAT ALL OF THESE CONSENT ITEMS OR SOMETHING THAT IS BEEN SEEN BEFORE OR PREVIOUSLY COUNSEL HAS LOOKED AT. THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE CONSENT ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLE MEETING MINUTES, I GUESS. SO SECOND READINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS A CHANGE WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS, THIS COUNSEL PACKET, SPECIFICALLY. ISN'T THAT --?

>> OKAY, I THINK THAT IS THE PLAN. BUT FOR THE RECORD, THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX ITEMS ARE THE -- THREAT BUT NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS . THOSE WERE IN BUDGET WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS

WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE. >> I GOT THAT. IF THE IDEA IS THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN BEFORE IS, WHAT KIND OF GENERATED BY AND HOW MUCH? AND THE BUDGET AND TH ACTUAL -- SOME OF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AND IT WILL EXPLAIN

>> OKAY, FEAR POINT. >> MY COMMENT WAS GOING TO BE

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YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING TO HEL WITH THAT TRAFFIC THAT IT IS WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, AT LEAS FOR ME.

>> IS ON TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT IS GOING INTO THE AGENDA ITEM MEMOS. IT IS IN THE PACKET AND AVAILABLE TO THE CITIZENS IF THEY WANT T SEE THEM BEFORE THE MEETING SO THEY KNOW AND HAVE THE HISTORY THAT ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAV AS WELL. HE MET I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THANK YOU TO THE STAF FOR THE DETAILS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FISCAL NOTES. I THINK MAYBE MATT IS PART OF THAT? BUT I LOVE THE FISCAL NOTES. THAT SECTION OF IT. IT IS KIND OF THE COST FOR THE CITY, WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM, THE POT, ET CETERA. IT IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE RESIDENCY TO KNOW. TO KNOW MORE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. I APPRECIATE THAT WITH THE FISCAL NOTES.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING NONE ,

PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER? AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? AYE . COUNCILMEMBER GORDON? AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER -- AYE. COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL KINSEY

[10.1. Consideration and possible action regarding Ordinance No. O-2023-008 to amend Section 2.03.042 of the Code of Ordinances to provide a definition of residency for the city manager residency requirement. (Mayor Snyder)]

AYE AYE. >> THE MOTION PASSES TO ZERO.

THROWING CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO 2023 E- 007. APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF THE MAYOR SNYDER 62 TRACK , 62.91 ACRES. ESTABLISH THE BAS ZONING AS LI, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF U.S. 79 AND COUNTY ROAD 132 -- GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, ASHLE -- THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO PULL THIS ITEM TONIGHT AND WILL PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

>> SAYS IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK YOU AT LEAST NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE IT.

>> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IS THERE A REASON FOR THE POLLING? I KNOW BEFORE, IT HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT WE HAVE HAD SOME SHAKEUPS. WE WENT AHEAD AND ANNEXED BECAUSE THAT WAS A THING WE WANTED TO DO. IS THERE A REASON THEY ARE WANTING TO PULL THIS? THEY DID NOT GIVE THAT ONE. THEY SAID THEY JUST

NEEDED TO PULL. >> IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS? A: 27 AND WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN

>> OKAY, WE CAN CLOSE IT. >> UNIT TO SEE IF ANYBODY CAME

TO SPEAK. >> IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THE ANNEXATION OF THIS LAND? OKAY. SAY NO ONE, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH LEAVING IT OPEN?

>> YEAH, THERE IS NO OBJECTION SO WE WILL CONTINUE IT . WHAT

AGENDA SHOULD BE PUT THIS ON? >> I TOLD THEM IT WOULD LIKELY , I BELIEVE, COME BACK IN MARCH BUT I DON'T HAVE A DATE

SPECIFICALLY. >> LIKE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH? THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH? THANK I WOULD SAY THIS.

THEY PAID TO HAVE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THIS, RIGHT?

>> IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I SAY WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF IT IS IN MARCH, THEN THEY CA PAY. BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY TO RELIST. ALL RIGHT. SO HEARIN NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL CLOSE TH

[10.2. Consideration and possible action regarding Ordinance No. O-2023-008 to amend Section 2.03.042 of the Code of Ordinances to provide a definition of residency for the city manager residency requirement. (Mayor Snyder)]

BUT WHEN THE RESIDENCY CAME UP, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION FROM THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER THAT WE ARE GOING TO CALL IT RESIDENCY AND NOT LIVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND SO WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, THAT MADE ME THINK IT IS BETTER TO ADDRESS. I WAS TRY TO ADDRESS THINGS THE MINUTE I FIND OUT IF THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE. SO TO HAVE THIS DIAL DOWN, NOW IS PROBABLY THE TIME TO DO IT. IN HUTTO SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE

LATER. >> AND NOW I AM TRYING TO GET

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I MEAN, IT IS LIKE AND INSTEAD OF OR KIND OF THING. THERE ARE LOT OF THEM ON THERE. AND I LOO AT THE LAST ONE. IT, YOU HAVE T PROVE YOU ARE CONDUCTING ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR DOMICILE. LIKE THAT IS REALLY, THAT COULD BE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. I DUNNO. I JUS --

>> THAT WAS A LEGAL PRECEDENCE ON THAT. ? I DUNNO. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, MAYBE SIMPLE IF I THIS? IS THERE A WAY? DO WE HAVE TO LIST EVERY POSSIBLE THING IN THE BOOK?

>> OKAY. SO -- TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE. BUT THEY DID AND THE YOU HAD TO HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE, VOTER REGISTRATION, AN I THINK , I FORGOT WHAT ELSE BU I SAID WELL, IT IS A VALID DRIVERS LICENSE. AND SO THEN IF YOU RELY ON A DRIVERS LICENSE, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE IT AFTER 30 DAYS OF MOVING. BUT IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE DIDN'T SAY WAS VALID SO SOMEONE IS GOING T COME OUT AND GO, YOU JUST SAID LICENSE. AND THEN VOTER REGISTRATION, THAT IS ANOTHER ONE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO MOVE WIT YOU. AND SO WHAT I DID WAS, I SUMMED UP WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR AN WHERE THIS CAME FROM IS, IT IS THE IRS DEFINITION OF PRIMAR RESIDENCE. I KID YOU NOT, IT IS WICCAN LOANS, WHAT THEY DETERMINED TO BE A PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND THAT IT IS -- COUNTY, FLORIDA. THAT WAS ONE O THE FIRST WHEN I WAS TYPING WHA IS RESIDENCY. ONE OF THE THING THAT CAME UP, AND THEY HAVE IT FILLED UP PRETTY GOOD. THE WAY LOOK AT IT --

>> ALL OF THOSE WERE AND? SO M WIFE DOES MY TAXES SO I DON'T KNOW. IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VOTER REGISTRATION CARD AND A TEXAS DRIVERS LICENSE AND RECEIPTS FOR EXEMPTION AND ALL

THE STUFF? >> NO. IT SAYS IN SECTION 10, I SUPPORTED BY FACTUAL EVIDENCE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO -- I DON'T MIND ADJUSTING IT. HERE'S WHAT I WANT. A PERSON WH LIVES IN HUTTO, GOES TO BED IN HUTTO, THEIR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN HUTTO. I WANT THE PEOPLE TO RUN. THE WAY IT IS SET NOW, I THINK ALMOST ANYBODY CAN MAKE A CASE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. WE MAY

WANT TO VOTE, IF THAT'S OKAY? >> I DON'T. MY -- ABOVE. IT SAID YOU HAVE TO RESIDE IN THE CITY LIMITS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION. THE CITY MANAGER MEETS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT IS KIND O WHY I WAS SAYING -- MERRICK THERE'S SOME KIND OF OPEN-ENDED THINGS IN THERE, LIKE OTHER ACTIVITIES INDICATIVE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DOMICILE AN

HOME LIFE. >> WALKING HER DOG IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU HAVE TO BUY A THE LOWE'S IN HATO, BUT OUT OF THE LOWE'S AND -- I DON'T KNOW.

>> AND ALSO, I MEAN, WHAT IF YO WOULD LIKE A PRIVATE SCHOOL EDUCATION? I MEAN, THAT IS A DECISION OF ANYONE, RIGHT?

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO ALL O THOSE RHYTHMIC THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERSON'S DOMICILE AND HOW MY PROSPECTUSE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING

REQUIREMENTS. >> SO DO WE MAY BE SAY LIKE FOU OF THE FIVE? ME, THE PROBLEM I YOU EITHER , YOU STRIKE THAT ON BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT APPLIES REALLY.

>> AND DPS IS MAKING YOU GET A APPOINTMENT LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF OR TWO MONTHS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE BUT IF YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL IT IS CLOSE TO THE EXPIRATION, YOU MAY HAVE AN EXPIRED DRIVERS LICENSE FOR WEEK OR TWO BUT IF SOMEBODY FROM THAT ORDER JUST THE RIGHT TIME -- CIRCUIT IS KIND OF A SILLY THIN THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY

SENSE. >> HOW DO YOU WORD IT TO IF PEOPLE WANT TO USE THESE AS POINTS OF RESIDENCY, THEY DIDN' HAVE TO HAVE ALL POINT YOU COUL BE A CITY MANAGER AND NOT -- IF EVERYONE IS FINE WITH THAT. AND YOU CAN MAYBE WALK TO WORK AND YOU DON'T HAVE A VALID DRIVERS LICENSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T DRIVE YOU CAN'T DRIVE, MAYBE, BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY. I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE HELD AGAINST YOU SHOULD

>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU SHALL RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND B, PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REWORDED TO RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE ACTIVITIES. BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR CITY MANAGER TO BE A QUALIFIED VOTER, BUT IF H DOESN'T GET HIS VOTER REGISTRATION, DOES THAT REALLY IMPACT HIS ABILITY IF HE BUY

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BACK? >> YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE ANYTHING THAT WE ARE NO READY TO BE OKAY WITH IN TERMS

OF WORDING. >> WE TRY TO DO IS LOOK AT CASE LAW, LOOK AT DEFINITIONS THAT WERE MORE CONCRETE , THAT WORKE SO SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION.

>> YEAH, THE NOT LIMITED TO JUST KIND OF, GOING TO ADD IT AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO ADD IT. YOU DON'T HAVE CABLE TV. NEED

CABLE TV. >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONCRETE

HEADBOARD IN YOUR FRONT YARD. >>

>> REMEMBERED THAT WAS -- IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO ADD? REMEMBER THAT WAS SOMETHING THA WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE JUST BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER AND TH LEVEL OF EXECUTIVE HOMES THAT WE HAD IN HUTTO WAS SEVERELY LIMITED . OF THOSE , WE WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE MORE THAT UPSCAL LEVEL . MOST ARE IN THE E TJ. I JUST KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY KIND OF TOSSED AROUND BEFORE. SHOULD WE OPEN IT TO ETJ OR NOT. I'M REMINDING

COUNSEL . >> WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

>> I APPRECIATE CHANGING IT. IT IS CHANGING AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE STANCE AND -- S QUICK. I WASN'T USED TO LIVING HERE. BUT MY CONVERSATION HAS BEEN, I WANT YOUR SPOUSE, HIS OR HER SPOUSE , TO BE IN THE SAME TRAFFIC JAM, THE SAME POTHOLE, AND THE SAME LACK OF SERVICES. THAT EVERYBODY ELSE LIVES IN GOOD WHEN THEY GO HOME THEY HEAR THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

AND POTENTIALLY, THEY CAN LIVE OUT CHANDLER ROAD BY A REALLY, REALLY THE AREA, THEY ARE IN AN OUT , AND THEY DON'T KNOW ALL O THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE MY CITY MANAGER AT HOME DEPOT FIXING ATTIRE BECAUSE THE POTHOLE BROKE HIS TIRE.

>> I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO PAYING PROPERTY TAX IN THE CITY THAT YOU ARE -- OR INDIRECTLY PAYING IT BY THE LINK YOU'RE PAYING IF YOU'RE RENTING. YOU ARE PAYING IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY. IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE CITY, YOU ARE

NOT PAYING IT. >> I AGREE. AND COUNCILMEMBER THORTON. I THINK IT SHOULD BE I THE CITY. WE DID HAVE A

CONVERSATION. >> GREAT. AND PREVIOUSLY, THE MANAGER AND DOING INTERVIEWS AN POTENTIAL OFFERS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED. IT IS JUST NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME T BRING THAT UP, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO.

>> ALREADY. SO ARE WE OKAY WITH LEGAL RINGING IT BACK? SOME TWEAKS TO MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING. BU THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS YOU GOT TO DO SOME OF THESE? I DON'

KNOW HOW TO WORD IT. >> DEFINITELY WE NEED TO DEFINE

IT . >> I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS CLEAR AND THE COUNT IS QUESTIONABLE. SO IT I

NOT ARGUABLE . >> SOMEONE ELSE GOT LOOK FOR SOMETHING AS A DISQUALIFIER OR QUALIFIER IN THE FUTURE THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF I SAY WE -- WHEN IT COMES TO THESE RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY. WE LOOK FOR THE MISSED COMMA. WE WILL SAY FEBRUARY 2ND AND ALSO WITH THAT AGENDA. MATT AND I WILL RECOMMEND AGENDA SO WE WILL KIND OF HAVE A GAME PLAN. WE WILL PLAN FOR FEBRUARY 2ND , BUT THAT COULD BE MOVED , DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF THE

AGENDA PEER >> I ALSO THINK THIS IS NOT PENDING BECAUSE YOU CURRENTLY WOULD NEED, IN MY OPINION, HIS RESIDENCY. IT WOULDN'T TIGHTEN IT UP, BUT I THINK OUR CURRENT

CITY MANAGER W >> I HOPE WE DON'T -- INDISCERNIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

>> >>

>> I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE LOOPHOLES.

THAT IS THE THING THAT CONCERNE ME. HONESTLY, I CLOSE ON THE HOUSE I LIVE HERE, MY WIFE LIVE THERE. WE ARE HERE IN MEETING THE INTENT POINT MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IT BE WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THERE IS NOT A WAY T HAVE A GOTCHA MOMENT. WE DON'T LIKE MR. SUDDENLY AND OH, WE ARE GOING TO FIND SOME WAY TO FINAGLE HE DOESN'T QUALIFY AS A RESIDENT HE DOESN'T QUALIFY TO LIVE YOUR AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY A SEVERANCE OR ANY OF THAT ART OF NONSENSE. I DON'T CARE. I HAVE CHANGED MY DRIVERS

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[11.1. Consideration and possible action regarding the adoption of a Resolution providing an interpretation for the meaning of residing within the City of Hutto, Texas, pursuant to Hutto City Charter Sections 3.02 and 5.02.]

>> WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 11.1, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE ADOPTION O RESOLUTION PROVIDING AN INTERPRETATION FOR THE MEANING OF RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 3.02 AND 5.02. MY GUESS IS SOMEONE SAID IT IS TH SAME WORDING WE KIND OF HAVE

THE SAME ISSUE? >> WORD FOR WORD.

>> IS THIS SOMETHING YOU CAN BRING BACK TOO? OR DO Y'ALL --

>> THEY WERE TO DO A LITTLE BI DIFFERENT. RICKETS IS MEETS

ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND -- >> BUT THEY PUT THE INTENT IN THEIR. INCLUDED BUT NOT LIMITE TO. I THINK MEETS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS IS REALLY THE WORDING THAT NEEDS T

BE ADJUSTED. >> YEAH, I AGREE. WITH THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO HAVE A VALID I.D. AND -- AT THE HOMESTEAD. AND YOU CAN'T -- YEAH, I GUESS THAT

SENTENCE . >> THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ORDER O

SOMETHING . >> IT SAYS IF YOU ARE A HOMEOWNER OR NOT A HOMEOWNER AN THAT COVERS IT . BUT THAT OPTIO SIX I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IF THEY SAID AS HUTTO GOES LARGER, HOME LIFE WOULD BE YOUR SPOUSE ALSO WORK IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. HER JOB I IN HUTTO. YOU NEED TO WORK HERE

TOO. NOT JUST LIVE HERE. >> MIKE IT IS ENROLLED IN THE

PUBLIC SCHOOL OR WHATEVER. >> YEAH, OR THE YMCA. MIKE ISN' THAT ILLEGAL? IS THERE THAT COMES OUT FROM THE LEGAL CASES THAT YOU INTEND TO HAVE YOUR DOMICILE AND DOMICILE IS A LEGA WORD WITHIN THE CITY. SO LET'S BRING THIS ONE BACK TOO. WE

JUST NEED TO TIGHTEN IT UP. >> YEAH. GO AHEAD. NUMBER THRE , THE TAX RECEIPTS WITH -- WITH THAT, THAT IS YOUR PRIMAR RESIDENCE HAVING THE EXTENSION BUT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE, I MEAN, I THINK , I GUESS IT'S FINE. BUT I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT ONE IS NO INCLUDED IN THE CITY MANAGERS .

OKAY. >> MY ONLY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW SOMEONE COULD HAVE, WE TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THEY SHOULD DO A HOME STUDY EXTENSION BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD THING. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T KNO THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING HER 15 YEARS. I WANT TO BE IN CITY COUNCIL, BUT ONCE YOU APPLY, YO HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PAPERWORK. IT IS LIKE -- WHAT THEY WERE RENTER, THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN RENTING FOR THE SAME TIME AND OUT OF FILL OUT THE SAME PIECE OF PAPER WITH THE COUNTY. YOU ARE ALMOST ADDING AN ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION -- THEY ARE STILL LIVING HERE, BUT HOW IS THAT AN DIFFERENT THAN A RENTAL AGREEMENT? IF THEY SHOW THEY HAVE PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS AND THEY ON THAT PROPERTY AND IT IS -- I GUESS YOU'RE TRYING TO TIGHTEN IT UP SO COULD BE ANYBODY THAT OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN HUTTO. I GET THAT. TRACK YOU, BY SING EVER PRIMAR RESIDENCE ON SOME PROPERTY OUT IN WEST TEXAS, RIGHT? BUT YOU LIVE HERE , YOU WORK IN THIS AREA AND YOU LAY YOUR HEAD DOWN IN HUTTO, TEXAS. BUT YOU WANT THAT EXEMPTION FROM PRIMARY RESIDENCY OUT THERE. YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY FULL TAXES HERE ON YOUR SECOND PROPERTY, WHICH I SAY, IS A BIG BENEFIT FOR THE CITY OF NOT HAVING THAT HOMESTEAD, RIGHT? AT THE SAME TIME, I'M SICK, THAT IS A HYPOTHETICAL, RIGHT?? I THINK W ARE KIND OF GOING, POTENTIALLY IN TROUBLE WITH THE STATE OR SOMEBODY IF YOU ARE CLAIMING A PRIMARY RESIDENCY THAT IS NOT REALLY THAT WELL, YOU ARE DOING PRIMARY RESIDENCY FOR TAXING PURPOSES ON THAT PRIMARY RESIDENCY GOOD BUT YOU DON'T RESPECT THEIR RULES ABOUT WHAT IS THE PRIMARY RESIDENCY. LIKE THE SECOND -- POINT THEIR RULE ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME YOU CAN SPEND AT A SECOND RESIDENCY, USUALLY. SO AT LEAST THERE IS FOR -- AN THAT IS WHERE THIS STUFF CAME FROM.

>> I'M NOT A TAX PROFESSIONAL, I JUST KNOW -- THE WHOLE POINT IS SO YOU CAN'T BE A MILLIONAIR AND HAVE COME YOU KNOW, A $20 MILLION RANCH THAT YOU CALL YOU HOMESTEAD SO YOU COME OUT HERE AND PAY MINIMUM TAX . YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLAIM IT. YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY YOUR HOMESTEAD. SOMEBODY HAS TO CACH THAT. SO THE PROBLEM IS I THINK YOU GET A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT SAYS THE STATE CONSTITUTION SAY YOU CANNOT HAVE HOMEOWNERSHIP

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>> AND THE -- DOMICILE. AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. AS OF THAT

JUST A PIECE OF PAPER? >> AGAIN, DOMICILE IS A LEGAL TERM. IF YOU ARE DECLARING THAT AND THEN -- TRACK AS PART OF THIS, CAN WE ADD THE FIRM THAT WILL BE A DECLARATION OF DOMICILE SO THERE IS NO -- AND IT WOULD ALSO BE PART OF THE CANDIDATE PACKET AND ALL OF THA STUFF?

>> LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. I WE BRING THIS BACK, WITH WHAT W KNOW NOW, IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT , I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH OPENED UP THE ELECTION TO ANYBODY THAT OWNS A

PIECE OF PROPERTY . >> NO, BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE ALREADY HAD TO HAVE RESIDENCY FOR 12 MONTHS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VALID VOTER REGISTRATION CARD IN THAT LOCATION FOR THE

PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS . >> SO SOMEONE ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN HUTTO IS A BUSINESS , AND THEN HAD THEIR VOTER REGISTRATION HERE, -- MAKE IT THERE IN THE PAST, THEY COULD G DO IT TODAY.? YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT PERSON THAT MAYBE LIZ AND

W >> I AM NOT, AND ONE VOTE FOR THEM IN THAT CASE, RIGHT? THE VOTERS DECIDE IF THAT PERSON SITS UP HERE. YEAH THEY WOULD PRETTY DON'T THINK SOMEONE WOUL FIND OUT THEY DON'T LIVE HERE AND PUT IT ON FACEBOOK OR

SOMETHING? >>

>> I'M JUST SAYING, I AM JUST SAYING.

>> SO THE FILINGS OPEN NOW BUT IT DOESN'T CLOSE UNTIL, IS AT THE 18TH? OF FEBRUARY? WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SET THIS AND LET'S SAY SOMEBODY FILES TOMORROW. AND THEN WE SET THE DEFINITION ON FEBRUARY 2ND. THE WOULD THEN BE DISQUALIFIED. A

APPLICATION HAVE TO -- >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO -- BECAUSE THE FILING IS NOT CLOSE YET.

>> UNDER THAT THING THEN, THAT MEANS WE CAN CHANGE RULES IN TH MIDDLE OF FILING. AND GET PEOPLE ON THE LAST DATE AND SAY ALL THESE PEOPLE -- TO ME, YOU FILED TODAY IN YOUR APPLICATION ACCEPTED BY THE CITY SECRETARY, YOU ARE DONE. WE HAD THAT ONE YEAR OR WE FOUND AN APPLICATION ERROR LIKE SIX MONTHS LATER. BU TO ME, IF YOU ARE APPLYING THIS WEEK, AND WE CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE A CHANGE, HOW DO YOU GO BACK AND SAY, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE T RUN THE FIRST WEEK AND LAST WEEK BUT NOT -- I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE.

ARE YOU SAYING THE CURRENT RESIDENCY, THEY WOULD BE

ELIGIBLE? >> I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WOULD SAY IS UNCLEAR AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, WE ARE JUST CLARIFYING. IN MY OPINION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. W ARE JUST CLARIFYING WHAT WE MEAN.? IF WE ARE THAT CONCERNED DO WE APPROVE THIS ONE TONIGHT AND THEN WE DO A REVISION IN TW WEEKS?

>> >> WE HAVE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE

TURN IN. >> WE HAVE, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PACKETS HAVE GIVE OUT OR THAT SHE HAS RECEIVED. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY SECRETAR CAN TELL IS THAT .3. AND ARE THOSE THREE -- ARE THEY IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES ON THE OUTS OR WHATEVER?

>> WE ARE NOT REALLY POSTED TO TALK ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS SO

WE SHOULD NOT DO THAT . >> NO, JUST SAYING, I THINK WE

CAN. >> GETTING PAST THE SECRETARY T

IDENTIFY -- >> SHE HAS TO IDENTIFY.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THEY SAY ARE OUR RESIDENT AND THEY

ARE IN THERE -- >> EXACTLY.

>> IT DOES -- >> IT IS THERE HOME RESIDENCE

AND NOT JUST APPLICATION -- >> AND IT ALSO HAS TO MATCH TH

VOTER REGISTRATION CARD AS WELL >> SO --

>> BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE HAVE BEEN THERE 12 MONTHS? WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THEIR APPLICATION?

>> THE MOTORIZATION CARDS IS HOW LONG THEIR VOTER FRUSTRATIO -- SO YOU CAN TELL BY THE MOTORIZATION CARD. SO YOU CAN'T CHANGE HOW YOU TREAT A CANDIDAT FILING FOR OFFICE BY LOOKING AT THE WAY WE ARE TRYING TO SAY THIS DOWN HERE SHOULD BE MAINTAINING THE QUALIFICATIONS, NOT FILING. FILING IS ALREADY I THE CHARTER AND YOU CAN'T REALL CHANGE THAT DEFINITION. IF YOU

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>> SO DOWN IN SECTION 2 , FOR PURPOSES OF FILING FOR OFFICE, YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT OUT. THAT IS A BLACK-AND-WHITE DETERMINATION OF THE VOTER REGISTRATION CARD AND THE RESIDING FOR THE 12 MONTHS BY LOOKING AT WHEN THEY REGISTER T VOTE. WHETHER IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN 12 MONTHS.

>> CAN WE FURTHER DEFINE WHAT RESIDED IS?

>> SO REALLY WANTING TO LOOK A MAINTAINING THE QUALIFICATIONS OF OFFICE. THAT IS MORE OF THE RESIDENCY ISSUE. HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN YOUR RESIDENCE ONCE YOU GET ELECTED?

>> SO OKAY. SO SOMEBODY UNDER THAT, LET'S SAY THE SCENARIO, SOMEBODY FINAGLED THE SYSTEM AN THEY DON'T LIVE HERE. THEY WERE CARE. THEY HAVE SOMEHOW, A YEAR AGO, NOT TO CHANGE THEIR VOTER REGISTRATION TO THE WORK ADDRESS. THEY GET IN AND FILE PEER THEY SOMEHOW WIN THE ELECTION. THEY WOULD IMMEDIATEL

BE DISQUALIFIED? >> ONCE WE ADOPT THIS.

>> WE ADOPT THIS AND SO AS SOO AS THEY GET ELECTED, WOULD THE

BE IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIED? >> THE WAY THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE FILING FOR OFFICE IS IF THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY GET ON THE BALLOT. IF THEY DON'T, WE CAN'T PUT THEM ON THE BALLOT. SO IT WOULD BE THEY QUALIFY ON THE BALLOT, THE GET ELECTED. AND THEY DO SOMETHING WHICH MAKES THE RESIDENCY NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO. THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE ISSUE IS. HOW DO YOU CLARIFY THAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE A LOOPHOLE LIKE THEY RUN FOR COUNCIL, GET ELECTED, THAT THEY REALLY HAVE RANCH, YOU KNOW, 20 MILES AWAY OR SOMETHING. THAT THEY LIVE AT. AND THEY JUST HAVE A RENTA

FOR 12 MONTHS. THAT'S -- >> YOU MAY NOT -- WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS OWNERS HERE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE THAT CARE. BECAUSE THEIR HIGHEST TAX BILL IS NOT THEIR HOUSE, IT IS THE TAX WE PUT ON THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO, THEY MAY BE VOTING IN OUR CITY

ELECTIONS. >> IS THAT LEGAL? CAN YOU LIST YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION ADDRESS AS YOUR NONRESIDENTS?

>> I GUESS -- YOU CAN DO IT? >> SAN ANTONIO, THE GUY HAD A LOT OF LAND. HE JUST HAD A PLOT REGISTERED THERE, RAN FOR

OFFICE. >> YEAH, THE SAN ANTONIO CASE GETS WRECKED THEY CHALLENGED IN COURT AND THE COAT COURT RULE BECAUSE YOU ONLY IN THEIR AND BECAUSE THE WAY THEIR DEFINITIO WAS WRITTEN, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE T BE, TO RUN .

>> SO LIKE ETJ -- >> HAD ALL OF THOSE -- HE OR

SHE . >> SO LET'S SAY THEY RUN AND THEY GO THROUGH THAT SYSTEM AND THEN WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE QUALIFICATIONS TO MAINTAIN OFFICE. ON DAY ONE , THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED, THEY ARE NO LONGE QUALIFIED ?

>> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> AND THEN COUNSEL WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER THEY QUALIFY AND CONSIDER THE ISSUE OF

FORFEITURE . >> WITH THE COUNCIL.

>> THAT IS REALLY WHAT YOU ARE WANTING TO DO FINE IN HERE IS THE MAINTAINING THE QUALIFICATIONS. SO IF THEY DO SOMETHING THAT MEANS THEY DON' HAVE THEIR RESIDENCE WITHIN HUTTO, THEN YOU LOOK AT VACANCY BECAUSE OF FORFEITURE.

SOMEONE WHO IS IN PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND MNAGEMENT BY ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES, IT IS NOT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF

HUTTO, THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. >> GREAT.

>> SO AND IF SOMEONE -- >> AND IF THEY WERE GETTING ELECTED, IT IS A TOUGH DECISIO FOR SOME COUNCILMEMBERS. BUT YOU SEE THEM AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND SAY YOU ARE DONE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS, NOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.

>> AND WE DO IT BEFORE THERE IS --

>> YEAH,

HOLDOVER. >> VACANCY ARE ON A FORFEITURE

THERE IS A HOLDOVER. >> REMEMBER THERE IS THAT

OPINION? >> RIGHT, IF WE HAVE THAT PART DOWN PEERS THAT IS REALLY WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. I THINK

WE SHOULD EARN IT BACK. >> OKAY. DO THE SAME THING

FEBRUARY 2ND AND PENDING AGENDA >> ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT ONE IS THERE 100% DISABLED, DISABLED VETERANS, THEY DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHERE DOES THAT SHO

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UP FOR THAT PEOPLE ASK? >> I DOUBT THEY CAN REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES TO BE ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE I

THE CITY. >> BUT WHENEVER THEY GET THE EXEMPTION FORM, IT JUST SHOWS A DISABLED VETERAN. IT HAS EXEMPTION, CORRECT? OR THE HOMESTEAD EXAM SENT WHAT A

BENDABLE TEST >> YOU, IT IS LIKE IF YOU HAD OVER 65, YOU HAVE EXCEPTIONS FO THAT. IT IS JUST LISTED.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS ONCE YOU ARE MAINTAINING YOUR OFFICE, RIGHT? SO FILING FOR OFFICE, THE BASICS. THAT IS JUS YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE OR BRACKET OR THEIR IS SOME BASIC OUTLINES FOR FILING FOR OFFICE SO ONCE YOU ARE IN OFFICE AND MAINTAINING, CAN WE DO THAT TO WHERE WE CAN RESTRICT IT? SO

TIGHT? CAN WE DO THAT? >> WHATEVER GOES TO THE

MAINTAINING PART? >> WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS TRYIN TO, IN A CAPTION, PROVIDE THE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT MEANS TO RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY. AND REALLY, FOR THE FILING FOR OFFICE, SINCE THAT IS A CHARTER REQUIREMENTS, I DON'T, IT'S PRETTY CONCRETE HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT. WHAT THE ISSUE IN THE CHARTER IS, IS MAINTAINING THE QUALIFICATIONS OF OFFICE. THAT IS IF SOMEHOW , RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE CITY - YOU KNOW, FACTUAL THINGS TO B ABLE TO YOU HAVE NOT MAINTAINE

QUALIFICATIONS . >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. ON THE UNEXPIRED TEXAS DRIVERS LICENSE. YOU HOPE THAT EVERYBOD REMEMBER WHAT DATE THEIR DRIVERS LICENSE EXPIRES. BUT THERE'S ALSO A WAIVER OF UP TO SIX MONTHS. SO IT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVEN'T MOVED OUT OF THEI HOUSE, WHICH IS WHY, LIKE WHAT DON'T WANT TO SEE IS SOMEBODY FOUND, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD FIND IT OR THEY WOULD SEE THAT SOMEONE HAS THAT ONE DAY EXPIRE DRIVERS LICENSE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL TRUE T KICKOFF COUNSEL. BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO --

>> THAT IS WHY I SAID WE JUST NEED TO BRING THIS BACK.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> EXCUSE ME. FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

[12.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM 12.1 POIN CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS, AND SOCIAL REMOVERS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA

GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. >> THE BOARD, WE DID NOT MEET.

WE HAVE NO REQUESTS WITH ANY BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS RESIGNING I'M GOING TO GET WITH THE CITY SECRETARY WHEN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS COME OFF AN WHEN WE CAN START TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR THE ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK FOR THE CITY SECRETARY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PNC. AREA I DON'T KNOW IF IT I THE WEBSITE IS WRONG , OR THIS OTHER MASTER SHE DOES WRONG. FO EXAMPLE, IT HAS LIKE FIVE, NEXT JUNE AND LIKE ONE COMES UP THI JUNE. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE STEGER. WENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS SO EITHER THE WEBSITE I WRONG. THEY ARE NOT RECONCILED.

SO FOR ME TRYING TO GET WHO WE ARE GOING TO DO AND WE NEED TO START GETTING THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN START FINDING PEOPLE AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO REAPPLY AND HAVE THE BOARDS REACH OUT SO WE ARE NOT MAKING QUORUMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> ANGELA, I STILL HAVE THE MAT SERVER LIST WE DID WHEN WE DID THE MASTER REAPPOINTMENTS. I CA GET WITH YOU ON THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND COMPARE WITH THE WEBSITE. CAN YOU SEND IT OU TO COUNSEL TOO?

>> AND SHE CAN SHARE? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 12.1?

[12.2. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on the Hutto Soar 2040 Comprehensive Plan. (Ashley Bailey)]

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> HELLO, ASHLEY BAILEY --

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THROUGH THE WEBSITE. >>

] >> THIS IS THE PART I ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT CITY GOVERNMENT. AND JUST POP IT IN THE COMPUTER. -- SOMETHING I NOTICE WHEN I'VE GONE TO OTHER CITIES AND PRESENTED. I JUST PULL IT OUT OF MY POCKET AND STICK IT IN TH COMPUTER.

>> I WANTED TO DO A QUICK THAN YOU. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS THIS STARTED IN THE END OF 2021. WOMEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR. WE HAD A DIVERSE CONSULTANT TEAM WE HAD KRISTIN NICHOLS AS OUR NEED AND WE HAD -- IS ONE OF OUR SUBCONSULTANTS WE HAD CITY DESIGNS ON THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. READ JOHNSON PLANNING FOR PART OF THE PRESERVATION WORK. WE ALSO HAD TX P WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK WE HAVE GOT GOING ON. WE HAD A PRETTY DIVERSE GROUP AND THEN YOU MAY RECALL THAT CITY COUNCIL WENT THROUGH AND PICK DAY COMP PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE COOKED THAT OFF IT END OF 2021. WHAT YOU SEE HERE WAS ALL DONE THROUGH THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS, WE PICKED THE LOGO , SOLAR, I EXPLAINED THAT THAT MEDAL MEMBER. I CAN GO OVER THA REALLY QUICKLY. I JUST WAS STRENGTHS , OPPORTUNITIES, ACTIONS, AND RESPONSE. AND THEN THE PACK PICKED THE VISION STATEMENT AND THOSE GOALS UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAD A PRETTY LONG OPEN HOUSE MEETING. THE OTHER THING BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MAIN PART OF THE PRESENTATION, I WANT A CHANCE T GO OVER, WE DO GIVE YOU ALL NEW COMMENTS WE HAD THAT WERE SENT IN ONLINE. THAT WAS PART OF THE PACKET. THOSE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE . SO WE COMPARED THE WORK COMMENTS. WE WILL BE COMPILIN THOSE AND GIVING FEEDBACK AND ANSWERS IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND THEN MAKING THOSE CHANGES A WELL.

>> I DIDN'T READ ALL OF THOSE TODAY.

>> I DID READ ALL OF THEM. >> I LIKE, SO -- CAN TAKE OVER FREESE NICHOLS FROM OUR -- OFFICE. REALLY EXCITED TO BE HE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE THE 24 DAY CONFERENCE OF PLAN. IT IS ALREADY IN A BIT OF -- INTRODUCING THE CONSULTANT TEAM THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALL REPRESENTE HERE TONIGHT. THEY CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND SOME PRESENTATION SUPPORT A WELL. I'M TO START THIS BY GOING OVER THE PROCESS AND THE TOUCH ON SOME OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AND KEY ITEMS FROM THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. FROM THIS PROCESS , YOUR CURRENT COVER IS A PLAN ADOPTED IN 2015 AND THE ADOPTED IN 2019 , IN REALITY, I DATES BACK TO 2008. THAT WAS TH LAST PRIMARY ADOPTION.

OTHERWISE, IT IS LARGELY COLLECTION OF POLICIES, STATEMENTS, AND DIRECTION. COORDINATION AND EFFICIENT USE OF CITY RESOURCES . YOU HAVE TH ADVANTAGE THIS PLAN WAS DONE AT THE SAME PAN AS A WATER MASTER PLAN AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN THAT IS A REALLY FORTUNATE THIN THAT YOU ALL DID, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE WERE FINDINGS THA INFLUENCED THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN ITSELF. THIS PROVIDES ALIGNMENT FOR DECISION-MAKING.

THIS CAN BE A BUDGET TOOL. WE OFTEN SEE THIS INCORPORATED INT STAFF REPORTS, COVER PAGES, FOR AGENDAS. THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT IT IS AFTER IS ENSURING THAT THE GROWTH YOU HAVE , YOU WILL HAVE GROWTH, IT IS PROMOTING THE COMMUNITY VALUES

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THE APPROACH WAS TO LEAN INTO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WE TALKED ABOUT WITHIN THIS PROCESS IS HOW BUSY PEOPLE ARE THAT LIVE IN HUTTO. THEY HAVE LOTS OF THINGS VYING FOR THEIR ATTENTION. DON'T TRY TO MAKE THEM, TO SOMETHING SEPARATE. TR TO GET THEM THERE ALREADY GOING IS A CRITICAL PIECE. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME KIND OF UNDERLYING ISSUES OF TRUST DUE TO PAST THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE. THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT MAKES IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND EASY FOR PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT. SO THIS IS THE GENERAL PROCESS FROM AUGUST TO DECEMBER, WE ARE REALLY HEAVILY DRAFTING CONTENT. MADE A NUMBE OF CHANGES AS YOU HEARD ASHLEY REFERENCE AND MOVING INTO THAT ADOPTION PHASE. WITHIN THE ENGAGEMENT, WE TALK TO STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. VERY ACTIVE ENGAGEMENTS. WE APPRECIATE IT.

RESIDENTS WILL BE A LARGE FOCUS GROUP AND WHAT WE FOUND IS MORE FOCUS GROUPS ARE MORE WILLING T PARTICIPATE THAN OTHERS. EVEN WITH MULTIPLE INVITATIONS. THAT IS A CHALLENGE WE SEE HERE.

SOMETHING WE TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS RELATIONSHIP BUILDING. FOUR MAIN PUBLIC EVENTS THAT CORRESPOND WITH VIRTUAL ENGAGEMENTS. EVERY TIME HER OW IN PUBLIC THAT THERE IS SOMETHING VIRTUAL GOING ON. IF SOMEBODY CAN'T COME, OR IN THI CASE, WITH ALL THE PANDEMIC STILL ACTIVE. MAKING SURE PEOPL CAN ENGAGE ON THEIR TERMS ALONG THE WAY. SOME SURVEY RESPONSES. SOME WEBSITE VISITORS. I LIKE THE RESPONSE CABINETS, THOSE AR MY FAVORITE. IT STRIPS AWAY ANY PRETEXT FROM ANSWER SELECTION AND YOU ARE GETTING WRONG RESPONSE. WHAT WE HEARD, OVER MILLION, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY IS A HUGE PRIORITY FRO THE PUBLIC. IT IS BECAUSE THEY EXPERIENCE IT EVERY DAY. THE MORNING RUSH HOUR, THAT EVENIN PEAK HOUR, THAT IS GOING TO -- IT IS FRONT OF MIND FOR THEM. W HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON AND PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS MAY ALSO RELATE TO INVESTMENTS WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE SOMETIMES AS AFFECTED -- RATES. THAT IS FRON OF PEOPLE'S MINDS BRING LAND-USE, ECONOMICS, CITY SERVICES JUST TO KIND OF ROUNDED OUT. HYDRO CITIES, WE OFTEN SEE TRANSPORTATION RISE T THE TOP OR THE FACT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS -- IS A LITTL SURPRISING AND FOLLOWED BY LAND-USE. WHAT PEOPLE WANT HUTTO TO BE LIKE? THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE INDEPENDENT BUT STILL INTERCONNECTED. THEY WAN TO BE UNIQUE AND SELF-RELIANT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD OVER AND OVER IS THEY DON'T WANT TO COME HOME ONLY TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK TO -- OR AUSTIN TO SPEND OUR EVENINGS DOING SOMETHING. THEY LIKE TO BE WALKABLE. LOTS OF ARTS AND ACTIVITIES. DON'T JUST FOCUS O CARS . FOCUS ON ALL OF THE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. AND SEVERAL OF THESE COMMENTS WERE ASPIRATIONAL. IN 2040, OR TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.

THEY WANT TO BE SAFE AND WANT T BE IN AN INCLUSIVE AND WELCOMING PLACE FOR THE ALSO TALKS ABOUT THINGS LIKE SHIFTIN DEMOGRAPHICS. WHAT YOU RUN INTO A SHIFTING HOUSEHOLD SIZES AND MAKEUP. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS KIND OF SUMMARY, OVER A THIRD O THESE ARE REALLY DIRECTED AT TRANSPORTATION. THAT IS GOING T BE REINFORCED OVER AND OVER. A YOU HEAD TO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF IT IS BROKEN OUT INTO REALLY NINE TOTAL SECTIONS, PLUS APPENDIXES. IT IS A HEFT OF A PLAN. THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS HIGHLY COMPREHENSIBLE. IT IS GOING INTO AREAS WE DON'T ALWAY SEE -- INTO. KEY ASPECTS OF TH SNAPSHOT. THE SNAPSHOT IS WE

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WE HAVE GOT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. HOW DO WE ACT ON THEM? THAT IS WHAT STARTED TO CREATE THIS HOW TO REACT AND RESPOND? THAT'S WHER SOAR CAME FROM. THAT GROWTH IS GOING TO CONTINUE. YOUR OPPORTUNITY IS TO SHAPE IT. YOU CAN'T REALLY STOP IT . THAT REALLY CHAINED ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAD SOME SOME HAPPENING IN THE REGION. IT HAS REALLY CHANGED AND RESHAPED, ESPECIALL THE EASTERN SUBURBS OF AUSTIN.

THE STRENGTHS WE SAW COME OUT O THIS IS IDENTITY AND PASSION.

PEOPLE CONNECT WITH HUTTO'S IDENTITY. THE WEAKNESSES THAT WE HEARD WAS KIND OF THIS NEED TO FOCUS AND ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD ADVANCED IDEAS. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT FRITZ PARK IS ON THE MEETING TONIGHT. I'M CITED THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAD. AND ALSO, PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WORK HER MORE IF THEY CAN. EVERYBODY IS A LITTLE TIRED OF THE COMMUTE, I THINK.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY GOT A TASTE OF VIRTUAL WORK AND GOT REALLY USED IT TO NOT HAVING TO COMMUTE. WE SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY AS A GREAT TIME TO BUILD PARTNERS. WE HEARD THAT A LOT. PEOPLE ALSO NOTED IT IS PERCEIVED AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY BELIEVE IT IS SOMETHING MORE.

THEY WANT TO THINK LONG-TERM THAT HUTTO HAS GOOD MATH TO D ALL THE THINGS THEY HOPE CAN BE DONE HERE. IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS BUSINESS STATEMENT WAS CRAFTED BY THE COMMITTEE, BUT WHAT WE SAW HAPPENING IS IT START OUT SIMPLE AND THINGS GOT ADDED TO IT MORE AND MORE. THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKE IS SHOULD WE REFORMAT THIS? WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THIS IS HOW PEOPLE TALK. SO LET'S STICK WIT HOW PEOPLE TALK FOR THIS VISION STATEMENT. THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A TIME ISSUING STATEMENT. I YOU TAKE THIS STATEMENT, THIS I WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET ON TH TIME MACHINE. YOU JUMP TO 2040 AND YOU GET INTO HUTTO . WE WAN THIS STATEMENT TO BE STRIDENT. IT IS ASPIRATIONAL ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO BE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE EMPHASIZED IN THIS CONVERSATION IS SMALL TOWN FEEL AND A SMALL TOWN FEEL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POPULATION. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE AND INTERACTION AND CONNECTING PEOPLE. SOME VERY LARGE CITIES FEEL LIKE VERY LARGE VILLAGES. THAT IS, I THINK, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE PERCEIVING HERE. TO KEEP THAT WERE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW OTHER LABELS . THE HIPPO WAY WAS A SPECIFIC TERM THAT CAME FROM THE ADVISEMENT COMMITTEE.

YEAH, THE HIPPO WAY WAY . DESCRIBED THAT AND THEY WERE DESCRIBING THE BITING PRINCIPAL . WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR OVERRIDING PRINCIPLE AND WE SAI OKAY. WE ARE COMFORTABLE WORKIN WITH THE HIPPO IN THIS WAY. WE CAN DO THAT. AND SO HENCE, THE CREATION OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES. THE THING WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS THESE WER DESIGNED TO HELP YOU IF YOU ENCOUNTER THE UNEXPECTED. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE THIS IS A SITUATION, MUCH LIKE WHAT WE SEE TODAY. WHEN YOUR PLANS WERE DONE 10 YEARS AGO, TESLA, NIKOLAI TESLA WAS IN A STORE SICK INVENTION. TODAY, I IS A LARGE CAR COMPANY. SO SAME OR, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MEANINGS A DECADE APART. SO TAKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE UNEXPECTED. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. WITHIN LAND-USE, THE KEY THEMES , WE HAVE THE LAND-USE MAP . WE TALK A LOT ABOUT 10 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS WHEN THEY GET HOME, THEY LIKE T BE GET TO SOMETHING EITHER AS A SHORT DRIVE OR THAT THEY COULD WALK OR BIKE. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO GO. THEY ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DIVIDE THAT IS CREATED BY MAJOR ROADWAYS. THAT IS THE APPROAC OF THE CITIES AND VILLAGES. IF IT IS DIFFICULT TO CONNECT THE YOU SEEK TO REPLICATE EXPERIENCES. DECISION-MAKING CRITERIA. WE USE A DASHBOARD METHOD IN YOUR PLAN. WE DON'T DO THIS IN OUR PLANS. THE REASO FOR THIS CAME FROM STAFF. HOW YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS WHAT WE HEARD IS THAT THE CURRENT PLAN, IT IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR WHAT IS OKAY AND WHAT IS NOT OKAY. ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES WHERE SOMETIMES IT IS AND SOMETIMES IT ISN'T. SO WE INTENTIONALLY FRAMED THIS TO HELP THOSE QUESTIONS, SET UP DEVELOPMENT TYPES, DEGREES OF APPROPRIATENESS. THE COMMENTAR ON HOW DO YOU MOVE SOMETHING

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GETTING THOSE INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING TO THE REALITIES OF -- IN THE INTERIM YEARS. THERE IS ALSO A BIG EFFORT TO NORMALIZE YOUR STREET SECTIONS. THE STREET SECTIONS YOU HAD HA KIND OF UNUSUAL DIMENSIONING . IT WASN'T CONSISTENT REGIONALLY ALSO, WE WANTED TO REFLECT TH NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. WE HEARD A LOT OF IT IS FAMILIES. BIKE LANES AREN'T ALWAYS THE BEST CHANCE IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES BUT SOMETIMES THE BETTER CHOICE IS THE MULTIUSE PATH. THINKING ABOUT KIDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE . THE BIG THEME OF THIS IS KIND OF A SYSTEMS THINKING APPROACH THAT EVERYTHING IS RELATED. ALSO, EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THIS PARTICULAR CHAPTER ITEMS ABSURD CITIES TYPICALLY HAVE A STANDALONE PROCESS FOR THAT IS ALSO TRUE FOR TRANSPORTATION.

YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLA AND PULL IN DATA FROM THAT. THERE ARE THEIR NEEDS OUT THERE PARTICULARLY YOU WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT LONG-TERM FACILITIES PLANNING. SOME STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING, ESPECIALLY WITH -- REGIONALISM. YOU ARE IN UPPER PORTIONS OF WATERSHED FOR THE CREEKS THAT GO THROUGH THE CITY. YOU MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY YOU COULD REGIONALIZED IT AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SIMPLIFY A LOT OF THINGS. AND ALSO, OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMENITIES . YOU CAN TURN THOSE INTO REALLY GREAT PARK FACILITIES. A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU OUT OF THIS. STARTING T THINK ABOUT WASTEWATER BENEFICIAL REUSE. ESPECIALLY GIVING THE EMPHASIS ON THE INDUSTRIAL MEGA SITE. WITH PROPER TREATMENT, INSTEAD OF USING YOUR DIVESTING WATER SUPPLY. IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT SERVE AS INDUSTRIAL PROCESS WATER, FOR EXAMPLE.

THINKING ABOUT SOME INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS. GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO HEAVILY ENGINEERED SOLUTIONS. LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE THINGS DUAL-PURPOSE. A GREAT EXAMPLE O THAT IS WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR LINES , STORMWATER DRAINAGE ROUTES , AND TRAILS ALL TEND T LOOK FOR THE SAME THING. THEY LIKE TO BE A LONG LOW POINTS , WHICH TYPICALLY HAVE CREASED.

THEY TYPICALLY FOLLOW THE SAME WATERSHED PATTERN. YOUR SUICIDES TYPICALLY LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR DRAINAGE WATERSHEDS. LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DEWY ROSE YOU EMAILS. SO YOU CAN BUILD OUT A NETWORK GOING FORWARD. PUBLIC FACILITIES. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME DESIGN TRENDS.

AND THINKING ABOUT 20 YEARS FRO NOW, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF POPULATION AND NEED? WHAT ADJUSTMENTS ARE GOING TO B NECESSARY ALONG THE WAY? BASICALLY LOOKED AT THOSE FOR YOUR STAFFING NEEDS LONG-TERM. HOW YOU ARE GOING TO FIND THAT SPACE AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THE CURRENT BUILDINGS AND WHO I USING THEM. BUT WE FIRST THOUGHT ABOUT WAS THE POLICE STATION. AND WHAT ARE THE NEEDS WHAT COULD THEY REALLY USE? THEY REALLY NEED A ROLE ROBUST FACILITY AS THEY GROW. WANT TO THINK ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES LONG-TERM. WHAT IS THE RIGHT LOCATION? SOMETHINGS LIKE THAT. WE RECOMMEND LOOKIN AT A SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AN USING THAT 20 YEAR HORIZON.

THAT WAY, YOU ARE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE AND NOT FOR THE NO.

PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. AGAIN, YOU HAVE AN OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. WE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS. SOME OF THIS IS EMPHASIZING ITEMS THAT WERE IN THERE. LIKE THE FRITZ PARK UPDATED EXPANSION. A REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE CONCEPT THAT WAS PUT FORWARD TONIGHT AN HOW WAS SPOKEN ABOUT AS THIS CENTRAL FEATURE. WE ALSO TALK ABOUT AN AREA WE CALL THE -- EXPLORATION PART BUT IT IS KIN OF DOWN SULTAN RUSSIAN CREEK. I IS AN AREA THAT FEELS LIKE THI COULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FO PEOPLE TO EXPLORE AND INTERACT WITH. WE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT FUTURE GROWTH UNDERNEATH THE REGIONAL PARKS . WE IDENTIFIED AN AREA UP TOWARD MUSTANG CREEK . IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS ALL A LO OF GOOD NATURAL AMENITY TO IT TO MAKE IT INTERESTING. THE

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THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING PRESERVATION, WE ACKNOWLEDGE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE PREVALENT THING GOING FORWARD I HUTTO. WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY. WHAT WE HEARD IS PEOPLE SEEKING CHOICES WE HEARD MOST COMMONLY IS PEOPLE THAT WILL TEAR MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO, THEY HAVE THEIR KIDS, THEIR KIDS HAVE MOVED OUT THEY ARE STARTING THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP OF LIFE? THEY'RE THINKING LIKE TO DOWNSIZE, BUT DOWNSIZE TO SOMETHING NICER. WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT A NEED FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HOUSING. NOT JUST THINKING ON AN AFFORDABLE SCALE, BUT THINKING FULL-SPECTRUM FROM EXECUTIVE T MORE ATTAINABLE. THINKING ABOU HOW TO BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD FRAMEWORK FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD STAY HEALTHY AND SKIP THE DOWN CYCLE AND STAY STEADY. AGING I PLACE WAS A BIG TOPIC WE HEARD LOT ABOUT. JUST CONVEYING THE CHARACTER OF HUTTO. LOOKING FOR SMALL WAYS TO DO IT. YOU CAN GO BIG'S PLACE SHE IS, IVY CITY, BUT LOOK FOR THE SMALL WAYS IN THAT. WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS WE THINK WARRANT FURTHER STUDY FOR Y'ALL IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS A TOMORROW THING YOU HAVE TO DO. ONE OF THEM IS THE SOUTHEAST PORTAL. YOU HAVE A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENT TO AN AREA THAT HAS UTILITIES AROUND IT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET LOT OF INTEREST OUT THERE. WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU SHAPE AN DEFINE THAT GOING FORWARD. THE AREA THAT IS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HUTTO , WHAT WE HEARD FROM PUBLIC RESPONSE IS LIKE T HAVE THAT HER ACCESS TO GOODS AND SERVICES . DIFFERENT WAYS T DEPRECATE THINGS YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE CITY. THINKING ABOUT TH AREA SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WHAT DOES THAT SHAPE LOOK LIKE? HOW DO YOU CELEBRAT KEY PIECES OF THAT? YOU KIND OF HEAR THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN ELEMENT. ONE OF THE AREAS WE COUNT ON IS THE AREA AROUND THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE. IN THAT HAS THIS INNOVATION AREA. YOU ARE WELL LOCATED IN TERMS OF AXIS TO THE TRANSPORTATION MODES. YOU HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL PRESENC THERE. YOU HAVE MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL EMPLOYERS , ESSENTIALLY SURROUNDING YOU. W THINK THAT IS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL POINT THE FACT THAT STEPS US INTO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN -- A GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. BY NAME IS MATT LEWIS . WE WERE IN CHARGE OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. THAT BEGAN WITH WHAT WE CALL A DNA ANALYSIS. IT WAS A PHYSICAL AND NUMERICAL ANALYSIS OF THE PATTERNS YOU HAD DOWNTOWN. WHAT ARE THE BLOCK SIZES? WHAT ARE THE BUILDINGS? HOW TALL AND WIDE ARE THE BUILDINGS? HOW MUCH GLASSES AT THE GROUND FLOOR? WHAT ARE THE TURN RADIUS IS OF YOUR STREET? THESE ETHICAL COMPONENTS ARE WHAT MAKE UP YOUR DOWNTOWN. THESE SMALL WALL GRIDS YOU HAV

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USING THE HEART OF HUTTO MASTER PLAN IS THE FOUNDATION FOR THI WAS BROKEN INTO THREE DISTRICTS ONE IS THE CLUB DISTRICT WHICH IS UNDER A PLAN UNIT. WE ARE TRYING TO BE REALLY MINDFUL OF THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS CREATED, AND THE GOALS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE SPECIFIED WITHIN THE PUD AS WELL. DO NOT OVERSTEP THE BOUNDARIES, BUT REALLY CREATE THAT FRAMEWORK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO SEE HO THESE BUILDINGS CAN MY NOSE STREETS AND START TO REASSEMBL THE BLOCK STRUCTURE. GOING TO THE ORGAIN DISTRICT SOUTH OF THE TRACKS. IT IS A DISTRICT THAT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

THERE IS A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTY DOWN THERE. WE DID A SERIES OF SMALL AREA PLAN TO SHOW HOW DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPE CAN FIT DOWN THERE FROM TOWNHOMES, SHOP HOUSES, TINY HOUSES, LIVE/WORK UNITS. THE WHOLE PREMISES, SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY CAN BUY A LITTLE BIT OF LAND AND GENERATE A LITTLE BIT OF WEALTH AND BUIL A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSE AND LIVE RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN HUTTO. THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE SERVICES. IT PROVIDES A REAL HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE RIGHT HER IN DOWNTOWN HUTTO. WE DID A SERIES OF RENDERINGS TO HELP EXPLAIN THE VISIONS. THE ARCHITECTURE MAY NOT BE EVERYONE'S FAVORITE. WE WERE TRYING TO USE SOME MODERN TECHNOLOGIES AND MODERN ARCHITECTURE THAT WE SEE A DEVELOPER MAY USE. THERE IS A VARIETY OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT. YOU CAN CREATE LOW-TECH , BITE-SIZE PIECES TO BRING SOME OF THIS STUFF TO LIFE BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE IN A BIG TAKEDOWN. IT COULD BE DONE BY RECLAIMING SOME RAID AWAY AND STRINGING UP LIGHTS AND THROWIN HAMMOCKS OUT THERE AND HAVING PLACE TO SIT AND GATHER AND LINGER. IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, WE WERE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT 1660 AND THE INTEGRATION OF THE EXISTING RIGHT AWAY HERE AND RESERVED AN ADDITIONAL RIGH AWAY AS REQUIRED. THOSE BUILDINGS ARE TWO SCALE AND TO RESERVE THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY NECESSARY FOR 1660 TO MAKE THIS FUNCTION. THE PREMISE HER IS THAT IT CREATED THIS REALLY SOLID STREET EDGE PEER THIS IS THE MOST URBANE AREA IN HUTTO. REYNAUD, EAST STREET IS ONE-SIDED. YOU GET THIS BUILDING AS A CONTINUOUS ROW

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FARLEY STREET ALSO HAS THAT ROL BUILDING DOWN PROBABLY STREET LEADING TO THE COURT . THAT CONNECTION STREET FROM FARLEY TO THE CLUB TO DOWNTOWN IS CRITICAL. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A COMFORTABLE WALK. STREET TREES EVERY 30 FEET. TH CANOPIES OF THE STREET OF THE TREES START GROWING TOGETHER AN YOU WILL GET THAT TUNNEL EFFECT OF THE TREES GROWING. YOU HAVE TREE-LINED STREET THAT ACTUALL MATURES IN A NICE MANNER.

PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING EVERY 30 FEET SO YOU HAVE COMFORTABLE LIGHT AND MAKES PEOPLE LOOK PRETTY AS THEY'RE WALKING ON TH STREET, RATHER THAN HAVING THE BIG LIGHTS SOUNDING DOWN ON THEIR HEADS CASTING CHARTERS FOR THESE ELEMENTS IN DOWNTOWN REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY IMPORTANT. THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN FOCUSES ON DOWNTOWN ECONOMICS AND HOW TO BRING THESE ELEMENTS TO LIFE. I LOOK AT SOME OF THE EVENTS YOU HAVE GOING ON IN TOURISM AND REALLY CELEBRATING THE ELEMENTS YOU HAVE GOT, AS WELL AS RECOMMENDING SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENT THAT CAN TAKE PLACE . CELEBRATING ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. IT IS THIS. IT IS ALLOWING THE STOREFRONTS TO SPILL THEIR MERCHANDISE OUT ONT THE SIDEWALKS BUT IT IS GRADING THE ACTIVE SPACE BUT IT IS USIN MURALS AND STATUES TO BRING PEOPLE OUT AND THE PEOPLE JUST HAVE AN EXPERIENCE . PEOPLE NOW ARE SEEKING EXPERIENTIAL RETAIL THEY WANT TO GO AND DO SOMETHIN WITH PEOPLE AND HAVE AN EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN THEIR SHOPPING ONLINE. MAIN STREET IN THE AGE OF AMAZON IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY CHALLENGING . NOT JUST FOR HUTTO, BUT FOR ALL TOWNS. WHEN PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING ONLINE AND NOT GOING TO SHOP IN THE DOWNTOWNS NECESSARILY, IT REALL MAKES IT TO WHERE DOWNTOWNS NEED TO BE INNOVATIVE AND HAVE WIDE VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES TO MAKE PEOPLE COME, STAY, LINGER, SHOP, EAT ICE CREAM, LET THEIR KIDS PLAY IT/PADS. ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS. HUTTO IS DOING A GREA JOB BOTH FRITZ PARK ON ONE END AND THE CO-OP DISTRICT ON THE OTHER. IT IS CREATING A LINEAR ENVIRONMENT. HOPEFULLY, ALL AGES COME AND CELEBRATE THIS.

ADDING HOUSING DOWNTOWN , ONE O THE KEY COMPONENTS IS TRYING TO DIVERSIFY THE HOUSING. BUILDING ON WHAT WE ARE HEARING TO THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, BUILDING THAT INTO THE DOWNTOWN ELEMENT.

YOUR ZONING CODE AND YOUR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK ALREADY ALLOWS FOR THIS. SO SEEKING LOCAL DEVELOPERS AND TRAINING LOCAL BUILDERS TO BUILD THESE TYPES OF HOUSING CAN BE REALLY USEFUL. LOW-TECH TYPE OF ITEM. FUNCTIONING ON COLLECTIVITY.

AGAIN, CONNECTING THE SIDEWALKS THE STREETS, THE VARIOUS DISTRICTS. AND ACTIVATING THE SPACES YOU HAVE. THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL. HISTORIC PRESERVATION WAS A KEY COMPONENTS WE WERE ANALYZING. THE MORTAR USE IN SOME OF THE BUILDINGS TO THE BUILDING MATERIALS.

Y'ALL COULD, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AN A STRIKE MEANS REDESIGNATION. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CAN ACTUALLY REGULATE BUILDING MATERIALS IN THIS DOWNTOWN. THE LOCATION YOU CAN REGULATE WELDING MATERIALS. W HAVE SEEN SOME TOWN FINANCIALLY PUT PREAPPROVED BUILDING PLANS INTO THEIR DOWNTOWN SO WHEN TH BUILDERS COME TO TOWN, YOU CAN SAVE THEM A LOT OF MONEY BY HAVING PREAPPROVED PLAN SETS THAT EMULATE WHAT YOU ARE ASKIN FOR GOOD RATHER THAN SENDING THROUGH A REGULATORY PROCESS

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ALL THREE OF YOUR LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION. Y'ALL HAVE A LOT IN COMMON. IF YOU WORK TOGETHER, YOU CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE YOUR LEVEL OF INFLUENCE. WHETHER IT'S THAT THROUGH DIRECT ACTION OR WHETHE IT IS TO JUST BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO SHARE THINGS. YOU CAN ADVANCE MUCH FASTER IN THAT MANNER.

YOU WILL ALSO SEE WITHIN THE ACTION ITEMS IS PERFORMANCE METRICS. THESE LOOK AT THE IDE OF ARE YOU DOING THE THINGS AN CHECKING THE BOXES, BUT ARE YOU DOING THE RIGHT THINGS THAT ARE HAVING THE DESIRED IMPACT? SO ALL OF THESE ITEMS COULD BE LOOKED AT. YES, THESE ARE THINGS WE CAN TRACK , THAT WE CAN DO. IT IS NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK. SO THAT WILL HELP YOU WIT THE ACCOUNTABILITY SET UP FOR THIS. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS TH PLAN DOESN'T STOP AT THE END. AND NOW YOU SPENT TIME LISTENIN TO THE PUBLIC AND NOW YOU NEED TO SPEND TIME SORTING THE PUBLI THAT YOU LISTENED AND ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT GOING FORWARD. SO THAT IS KIND OF TH HISTORY OF THIS. THE DOCUMENT ITSELF AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, W WERE LOOKING TO MAKE REVISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS COMING BACK IN FEBRUARY WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR FORMAL PRESENTATION. I AM SURE THERE ARE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, AND WHATNOT. EAGER TO

HEAR. THANK YOU. >> YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THE COUNCIL FIRST OR YOU WANT TO -- WE WILL JUST DO PUBLIC. SO OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT 9:30 NIGHT . SPIRIT PUBLIC HEARING, SORRY. IS THERE ANYONE FROM TH PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD? SINCE WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN, IS THERE A REASON TO CLOSE , TO POST PUBLIC HEARING TO MAKE YOUR ONLY REQUIRED TO -

>> WE WILL CLOSE -- >> IT DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM HAVING ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING NEXT TIME.

>> SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:39 AND OPEN UP

DISCUSSION TO COUNSEL. >> I WILL START POINT I WANT T SAY THANK YOU TO ASHLEY AND HER TEAM AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS SERVED THE COMMUNITY ON THIS EFFORT. I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO IT. A LOT OF PLANNING AND A LOT OF PAUSES.

HAVE TO SAY , ME PERSONALLY, TH DOWNTOWN PLAN DOESN'T FEEL LIKE HUTTO TO ME. I AM AN OLD TOWN RESIDENT . I FEEL LIKE IT LOOKS TOO URBAN. THERE IS NO ADDRESSING OF PARKING. I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY , WILL HAVE THE CO-OP DISTRICT TO BE THE MORE MODERN LIKE URBAN LIVING ENVIRONMENT. BUT YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT THE SPECIAL AND NOT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT IS

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COMMENTS ? QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTS AND I LOOK AT THOSE AS IDEAS. NONE OF THOSE ARE PLANS THAT ARE READY TO IMPLEMENT BY ANYBODY. THEY ARE NOT INTERLOCKED AND IS NOT LIKE ANYBODY WENT OUT AND SAID, HEY WHAT DO YOU THINK? -- I UNDERSTAND. AND ALSO, 95% OF THIS COMMUNITY WAS HERE , WASN' HERE 25 YEARS AGO. I'VE BEEN EVER 12 YEARS AND I AM ONE OF THE OLDER PEOPLE IN TOWN NOW.

THAT IS KIND OF CRAZY. BUT THA DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO RESPECT THAT WE HAVE -- IT I A BALANCE.

>> WHAT STRIKES ME MOST ABOUT THE PLAN AND THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IS THE INTERCONNECTION OF EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD. THE LAND-USE , THE MOBILITY, THE PARKS AND TRAILS. IT ALL FITS TOGETHER . WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AS HE PUT THOSE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER AS THE CITY GROWS, THA WE KEEP LOOKING BACK TO THE PLAN. NOT THAT IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FOLLOW EXACTLY IN AN WAY, BUT IT IS A GUIDE. IT'S WHAT DECISIONS ARE REMAKING , AND IF WE GET A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND, IT MADE IT LOOK LIKE PUTTING A TRAIL IN DOES MUCH FO US. WHEN THE NEXT COMES IN AND THAT TRAIL CONNECTS TO NOTHING, IT IS TO DO SOMETHING FOR US WITH MAKING SURE WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE AS WE BUILD OU WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE. WE HAVE GOT SO MUCH GOING ON WITH THE SOUTHEAST LOOP IN DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR AS THAT BUILDS OUT. THE CITY IS GOING TO KEEP EXPANDING AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KEEP MOVING IN THE AREA. HAVING THE ACTIONS WE CA TAKE SHORT-TERM IS GOOD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET STARTED, BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING , NOTHING IS GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE I IS IN THIS PLAN. THIS IS KIND O OUR GUIDE FOR SLEEPING THAT GOING FORWARD, MOST LIKELY.

>> SO DAN AND I WORKED ON THIS PLAN FOR THE LAST YEAR -- AND IS ONE OF THE COUNCIL WRAPS. AND DAN IS THE COUNCIL REP.

I'VE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN STUFF. I WANT TO SAY IT IS JUST A RENDERING. TO PUT THIS OUT . IT IS SOMETIMES HARD TO CONCEPT WHAT IS EVEN POSSIBLE IN THE SPACE WHEN YOU'RE SEEING AN EMPTY LOT. I KNOW THEY DID CHALKING DOWN THERE AND WE GOT LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK WHEN IT WA TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT COULD BE. THAT IS PRIVATE LAND, SO WHO IS TO SAY WHO THAT PERSON SELLS TWO. SO RIGHT NOW, THEY'VE BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE HUTTO MARKET DAYS AND STUFF THERE. WE MAY NEED TO MOVE IT O THAT IS PART OF, THAT COULD HAPPEN AS WELL BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF ACTIVITIES. I KNOW YOU'R THINKING WE DO THAT -- AND WE HAVE THE KIDS BOUNCY HOUSE THER ON THE GRASS. I GET THAT. IT MA BE THAT THAT MAY MOVE AND BE DOWN AT FRITZ PARK. MAYBE SOME OF THOSE FEELINGS MOVED FROM

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THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE TO ADD BEYOND WHAT WAS SAID. I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE CONNECTIVITY, CONNECTING CO-OP TO OLD TOWN , FRITZ PARK. I REALLY LIKE THE FOCUS THAT WAS PUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE. ANY IDEAS THAT COULD BE HAPPENING IN THE ORGAIN DISTRICT DISTRICT PROTECTED SO TO BE HAPPENING AND THAT PART OF TOWN SO IT IS GOOD TO SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND WHAT MIGHT BE COULD BE DEVELOPED OVER THERE AND REALLY SEE THAT AREA GROW TOO. I JUST WOULD REITERATE I APPRECIATE AL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND TO THE PART CITIZENS WHO PARTICIPATED IN DEDICATED THEIR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL KINSEY?

>> IVY CITY, THERE IS A LOT WITH THIS. THAT IS FANTASTIC.

WE'RE ALWAYS WANTING MORE AND LOOKING FOR MORE INPUT AND SURVEYS AND QUESTIONS AND WHAT WAS ASKED. I THINK YOU GUYS DEFINITELY PUT A LOT OF GOOD FAITH EFFORT INTO TRYING TO CAPTURE THE TRUE PUBLIC OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE.

I UNDERSTAND, AS FAR AS TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A UNIQUELY HUTTO THING. I THINK IT IS KIN OF HOW THINGS ARE, UNFORTUNATELY, NOWADAYS. SO SOMEHOW WE NEED A BETTER WAY T TRY TO DO BETTER AS A WHOLE. OU CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD THAT PROBLEM GOING OUT AND INAUDIBLE ] FOR ME, I THINK TH BIGGEST AREA OF OPPORTUNITY WA THAT SOUTHEAST LOOP CORRIDOR. FOR ME, I THINK THAT THAT , WITH ALL OF THIS GOING ON HERE IS FANTASTIC. BUT AS FAR AS AN ACTUAL BLANK SLATE AND ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON ROADS AND HOW THINGS ARE SET UP. NO MORE LOLLIPOPS AND -- SAID THAT.

LAUGHTER ] BUT REALLY, I THINK THAT DISTRICT AS THINGS ARE GETTING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, CONNECT CORRIDOR REALLY BE? I KNOW INITIALLY, EVERYONE THOUGH THE SAMSUNG IS GOING OVER THERE, SO IT IS GOING TO BE ALL INDUSTRIAL. HOWEVER, IT IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL THERE. BUT KIND OF ALONG THE CORRIDOR ITSELF, TO REALLY EXPAND THAT INTO MORE RETAIL ENTERTAINMENT. THAT TYPE OPTION. SO PERSONALLY FOR ME, THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING TO BE LOOKING TOWARD.

OBVIOUSLY, NONE OF US, AT LEAST I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WE WERE IN COUNSEL, NECESSARILY, WITH THINGS AS THEY START GETTING PU ON THAT SOUTHEAST QUARTER.

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>> OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER ? >> I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO ADD I LIKE THE CONNECTIVITY LIKE TH CO-OP DOWN TO FRITZ PARK, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE SEPARATED. YOU KNOW, THE COURT OLD TOWN, FRITZ PARK. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DIVIDED, YOU KNOW, AREA. I THIN IT SHOULD ALL FLOW WELL. I REALLY LIKE THAT CONCEPT. TO BRING THE WHOLE AREA, THERE IS LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THAT AREA. I LIKED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, USING THIS TO COUNCILMEMBER TRAN FIRST POINT, TO REVISIT THIS OFTEN AS A GUIDE. IN THE PRESENTATION, THE MENTIONED THAT THIS COULD BE USED AS A GUIDE FOR A BUDGET TOLL. AND SO WHENEVER I HEARD THAT, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNINGS OF THIS, OUR STEP ON TO BE FRITZ PARK. THAT IS KIND OF PUTTING THAT IN THE BUDGET AND STARTED TO WORK THE NUMBERS ON THAT. AND REVISITING IT. AND WHAT WEEK GET FRITZ PARK RENOVATED AND EXPANDED, WE CAN MOVE TO DIFFERENT AREAS. I LIK THE REVISITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES. WHAT PRIORITIES ARE. AND THEN I LIKE THE SOUTH, THE ORGAIN DISTRICT, THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79.

THE POTENTIAL THAT THE AREA COULD BE AS GREAT. HUTTO HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL WITH THE LAND WE HAVE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? THE SMALL-TOWN FIELD OR OLDFIELD, I FEEL LIKE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE HIPPO WAY , IT IS ALSO CHEESY. BUT IT IS A FEELING. IT IS SOMETHING YOU CANNOT PUT YOUR THUMB ON AND A FINE, RIGHT? THE HIPPO WAY. IT IS ABOUT COMMUNITY , AND IT CAN BE BOTH MODERN AND CAN BE HISTORICAL AS WELL.

ALSO, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY COMMUNITY, I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS AND LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. THAT IS LIKE THAT COMMUNITY FEEL WITHIN MY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. T TAKE THAT OUT SIDE OF MY

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YOU. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION. THE SEATING DOWNTOWN I FEEL HAS TO BE A PRIORITY. I KNOW WHENEVER I HAVE WORKED OR VOLUNTEERED WITH THE CHAMBER, SELLING CRAWFISH FOR THREE HOURS, I WANT SOME PLACE TO SIT AND TYPICALLY, THERE IS NO PLAC TO SIT. IT IS GREAT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE. BUT USUALLY, THE VENDORS ARE BLOCKING THE PART FOR YOU WOULD KIND OF SIT SO THE CURVES ARE TAKEN. THE GREEN SPACES WERE USUALLY WHERE THE MUSIC IS GOIN ON. THERE IS NO PLACE TO SIT AT ALL. I PERSONALLY KNOW I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PLACES TO SOMEHOW INCORPORATE THAT INTO DOWNTOWN AND MORE PLACES TO SIT OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. IF YOU'RE GOING WITH YOUR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS OR THE HALLOWEEN DOWNTOWN TRICK-OR-TREATING EVENTS, MY GIRLS UPON -- THE GREAT GRANDPARENTS ARE LITTLE BIT OLDER. THEY STILL COME AND THEY ARE STILL MOBILE. BUT THAT IS KIND OF A DECIDING FACTOR SOMETIMES FOR THEM. THE MOBILITY PIECE AND BEING ABLE T HAVE A PLACE TO SIT POINT LIKE OH, THERE REALLY ISN'T. SO SOMETIMES THEY DECIDE NIGHT TO

COME EAST ON THAT. >> AND TO NEAR THAT POINT. THA IS ONE THING I LIKED WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CONCEPT THING.

AND IF YOU NOTICED, THERE WAS THE SECOND FLOOR WAS SEATING OVER THE WHOLE BUILDING FOR THA OLD A WHOLE BUNCH OF SEATING AREA WHERE YOU CAN SIT AND WATC AND STUFF.

>>

VERSUS -- SO. >> IT IS JUST THE STEPS TO GET

UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK.

I APPRECIATE THE STAFF. I WAS TAKE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TAC TO EVERYTHING , AS YOU HAVE NOTICED AT SEVERAL MEETINGS. SO -- I LOOK AT US AS LIKE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF A COMPAN CALLED HUTTO. PROVIDING THE DOCUMENTS TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I WOULD HOPE, IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE MULTIPLY POO WROTE IT, BECAUSE CALLOUTS OF ROAD NAMES AND THINGS DIFFERED ALL THROUGHOUT. AND SO I HAVE READ SEVERAL -- IN MY TIME.

WHEN YOU GO IN AND I'M TRYING TO REZONE PROPERTY INTO SOMETHING, I READ THAT TO FIGUR OUT WHAT TO THESE PEOPLE WANT? WELL, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HUTTO IT WOULD CONFUSE YOU READING THIS , BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY HAVE LIKE THREE DIFFERENT HIGHWAYS AND THEY ONLY HAVE ONE I THINK SOME OF THAT REALLY HAS TO GET TIGHTENED UP. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS A TOOL. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT. BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AN WANTED TO CHANGE ZONING AND SOM ON COUNSEL AND P&Z WOULD SAY WHAT IS THE COMP PLAN SAY? I LOOK AT IT AS A GUIDING TOOL, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH PEOPLE' PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. IF A GUY CAN ZONE BY RIGHT AND BUIL A GUN RANGE, THAT WE NOT IN THE COMP PLAN BUT IF IT FITS A MAZZONI, WE NEED TO BE ACCEPTIN OF THAT. I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF COMMUNITIES GET TO WHERE THIS I LIKE THE BIBLE. EVERY TIME YOU CHANGE, IT IS A HUGE OPERA. NOW EVERYBODY TO GO IN THIS KNOWING IT IS A GUIDE. I THINK YOU GUYS CALL THAT A LIVING DOCUMENT A COUPLE TIMES. THE POPULATION NUMBERS SEEM TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. AGAIN, IF I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND DIDN'T KNOW HUTTO, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE UPDATED TO LOOK LIKE WHERE USING A 2019 NUMBER. I THINK THE 2020, I WANT TO SAY THE CENSUS CAME OUT FOR THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A FEDERALLY USED NUMBER TYPE THING. AND THEN UPDATE THE WATER WASTE WATER. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TOWARD THE TAIL END. BUT I WOUL NOTE THAT. BETWEEN THE MONEY W SPENT ON THAT AND THE MONEY WE SPENT ON THOSE PLANS, IT MAKES ME SICK TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAD TO SPEND ON PLANNING, BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO DO IT, RIGHT? PAGE 10. I DON'T ANYBODY CAUGHT THIS BUT ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS FOR US TO BE A RETAIL PUBLIC TRANSIT AREA. AND SO THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO THAT. THE PRO IS PROFITING BY -- TO GET TO AUSTIN AND TAKE A SEPARATE OTHER FOR THE CON IS IF YOU DON'T WAS FROM AUSTIN AND HUTTO, NOW YOU JUST OPENED UP FURTHER, YOU KNOW, $.75 . THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE IN AUSTIN ARE NOW IN HUTTO. IT COULD BE

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I'LL BE HONEST, WE PAY YOU GUYS A LOT OF MONEY. EXPECTATIONS AR ALWAYS IT IS NOT FOR ME TO FIGURE IT OUT . IT IS YOU GUYS.

I WAS A LITTLE, I GUESS DISAPPOINTED TOO, THAT THERE WERE SO FEW PEOPLE IN THE GOT ENGAGE IN SOME OF THESE. AND WE BASICALLY HAVE HUNDRED 50 PEOPLE TO NEED THE COMP PLAN AT SOME POINTS. I DO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO DO GET THAT UP IT IS TOO LATE FOR THIS ONE. TH WORLD IS CHANGING AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. THE RAILROAD. I DO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO CALL IT, BUT THERE WAS SOME INSTANCE OF WE ARE USING THE TERM THAT IS CALLED THE 1876. THAT WAS INTERESTING. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED THE AND AS WE GO DOWN, I THINK THERE AR THREE DIFFERENT NAMES. SO JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CATCH ON. AND WITH THE HIGHWAYS I THINK THERE IS A JUST 130. THERE WAS TEXAS 130. AT ONE POINT, I THINK 79 WAS CALLED INTERSTATE I-79 OR SOMETHING.

AND SO I'LL SEND HUTTO KNOW THIS, BUT SOMEONE ELSE MAY NOT KNOW . THEY MAY LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. THAT THERE IS AN INTERSTATE HERE. WE GET TO FIGURE 1 . YOU WILL SEE -- I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER WAY TO DO THIS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE , WHEN WE GOT TO FIGURE 1.5. I DO KNOW WHAT PAGE THAT IS ON. 2 SOMETHING. I WILL LOOK REAL QUICK. WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS. THE ONE THING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO, IS WE HAVE LIKE BOX 12%. WE HAVE AMERICAN INDIAN, ASIAN, AND WE HAVE 74% WHITE . THERE IS NO MENTION OF, I KNOW WE GO THROUGH LIKE TERMS WITH RACE AND ETHNICITY. I DUNNO IF THAT IS DONE EXACTLY TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE DONE. AT SOME POINT, THINK WE HAVE GOT TO CALL THIS THE HISPANIC POPULATION. AND WHO IDENTIFIES AS WHITE AND HISPANIC , I DON'T KNOW. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE ARE NO HISPANIC PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HUTTO. I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. YOU GET DOW TO ETHNICITY, THEN IT'S EITHER HISPANIC OR UNITED HISPANIC. SO I DO KNOW THE PROPER WAY TO DO ALL OF THAT PIT MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT POINT MOST OF THE TIMES I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT. BUT HOUSING NUMBERS IN 2022 AND HOUSING COSTS . OVERALL, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PLAN, EVEN ON THE SOUTHEAST , I GOT A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THINGS.

THE 1300 SQUARE FOOT ENTRY-LEVEL HOME , I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN EXECUTIVE HOUSE IS , RIGHT? BUT THAT 1300 SQUARE FOO ENTRY-LEVEL , I DON'T THINK THA IS ENTRY-LEVEL HOME. PEOPLE KEE SAYING THAT, BUT BIKERS ON COLLEGE BUT IN THE GET OUT OF COLLEGE, I HOPE THEY CAN FIND A $400,000 HOUSE. MY GUESS IS THE CAN'T. PEER TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE THEIR ALL THESE DEFINITION WE COME UP WITH COME EXECUTIVE. I THINK I LIVE IN THE EXECUTIV HOUSE BECAUSE THE BILLS I AM PAYING TO LIVE THERE MAKES ME FEEL LIKE AN EXECUTIVE. I DON'T OUR PLAN, WE TALK ABOUT ALL OF THESE FEATURE HOUSE BUT I DON' SEE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY ALONG THE SOUTHEAST CITY. I WOULD THINK IF YOU WANT TO NATIVITY ANYONE PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND NO HAVE TRAFFIC, THE SOUTHEAST LOO IS GOING TO BE AT THE 30 FOOT WIDE HIGHWAY. INSTEAD OF HAVING SINGLE-FAMILY ALL ALONG THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, THERE IS REALLY NO, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OTHER ENTITIES OF MULTIFAMILY AND OU CITY THAT YOU GUYS ARE SHOWING. IT SEEMS TO ME, THE NEXT 20 YEARS, AT LEAST IN THIS MARKET, MULTIFAMILY IS WHERE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO BE. I'M NOT A PLANNER BUT I LIKE TO HAVE THAT ALONG THE HIGHWAY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A $20 MILLION ROAD TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT. I THROW THA IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EXECUTIVE HOUSING AND ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HOUSING HEARD YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE RICH TO BE A HOUSE. I DON' KNOW WHEN THAT IS CHANGING. SO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST COMING OUT OF COLLEGE AND CAN START A FAMILY IN HUTTO AND NOT BE A VICE PRESIDENT OR SOMETHING. A FEW TIMES WHEN I'M LOOKING AT CITATIONS, IT ONLY SEE CITATIONS. TO SAY LIKE U.S. CENSUS. I DIDN'T SAY ZILLOW.

BUT IF IT'S AT ZILLOW, ARE YOU GUYS GETTING IT FROM? I'M USED TO ASSIST CITATIONS AND DATES WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IN 20

[03:05:02]

THAT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO THE WHOLE LOT OF THINGS. I THIN IT IS LOWER THAN THAT. AGAIN, SOMEONE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AND WANTING TO INVEST IN THE CITY AND PURCHASE A CITY BLOCK , IT WOULD BEHOOVE THEM TO READ THIS BUT I THINK IF THEY READ THIS, THEY WOULD THINK MY GOD, THE WHOLE CITY OF TEXAS IS IN THE THREES. WHY IS THE CITY OF HUTT IN THE SIXES? THE CITIES AND VILLAGES. I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TERM. THAT WAS INTERESTING. I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED -- DOCUMENT. I GOT SOME NOTES AND CARE ABOUT PICTURES. I MEAN THIS POSITIVELY. IF YOU ARE GETTING PAID BY THE PAGE OF HO BIG THE DOCUMENT WAS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST WHITE PAGES. AND SOMETIMES THERE IS A PICTURE ON THE PAGE. IF YOU WAN PEOPLE TO READ THIS, THAT I THINK THERE IS GOT TO BE AWAY, I'M NOT SAYING MAKE 400 PAGES IN THE 50, BUT JUST DON'T HAVE GRAPHS THAT DON'T MEAN ANYTHING HER PICTURES THAT ARE JUST PICTURES. LET'S JUST GET TO TH NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE INFORMATION SO SOMEONE WILL REA IT ALL. IT TOOK ME A COUPLE DAY TO GET THROUGH IT. THERE WERE SOME INSTANCES, PAGE 90, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING THAT WE SOMEHOW GET PEOPLE -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. ONLY START TALKING ABOUT ETJ'S AND ALL OF THAT, WE ARE SO LIMITED. WE DO IS GIVE PEOPLE THE FALSE SENSE IS THAT NOW GOING FORWARD, SOME OF WHAT I SAW IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN HUTTO IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, PEOPLE WITH PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND MNAGEMENT BY ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES BUILDUP ALSO HOME NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN SAY NO AND THEN THEY GO AND BUILD IT ANYWAY. OR WE SAY, WELL, IS THE WAY YOU CAN TWEAK THAT AND DRES IT UP AND DO WHATEVER? I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE REALLY CAN'T DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS IN ETJ. WE CAN HAVE A PLAN, BUT IN A WAY, IT'S LIKE YOU WANT THE VISION, BUT YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO APARTMENT CAN GO THOUGH. IT ONLY CAN BE SINGLE-FAMILY . IN REALITY, IF PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ETJ, THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT. I AM ALMOST DONE HERE. WE HAVE GOTTEN THIS IMPRESSED ALSO PARTICULARLY CONFUSING. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT COLORS. THE COLORS WERE ALL, THE PINKS ALL LOOK TH SAME. TO ME, I THINK I WOULD RATHER THIS STICK WITH HUTTO. I WOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT -- THA IS OVER BY REDBUD.

THAT IS IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE AR DOING HERE. AND SO FOR ME, I WOULD KEEP THE MUDS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, EVEN THOUGH LIKE THE WATER SUPPLY EXHIBIT, GET U TO JONAH AND YOU HAVE MANVILLE.

BUT THEN WE HAVE WATER DISTRICT THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED. IT WAS NEAT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO HUTTO. I NOTICED ON PAGE 125 , READ THIS DEMAND OF THE YMCA HAS OUTGROW THE FACILITY. I BRING UP BIG PROPONENT OF EXPANDING AND , THAT IS A COUNCIL WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THIS. I'M GLAD YOU NOTICED THAT. I ALSO LIKED YOU COMMENT ABOUT THE LIBRARY PART IN THE LOCAL SCHOOLS. HE OR SO AGO, I WAS ASKED BY SCHOOL BOAR MEMBER, WHY DO WE RUN A LIBRARY AND YOU GUYS WANT A LIBRARY? WHY CAN'T WE JUST RUN ONE LIBRARY SYSTEM? IT SEEMS LIKE WASTE OF MONEY TO HAVE SEPARAT SYSTEMS FOR THAT WAS EXCITING T SEE THAT. UNDER CHAPTER 69.

JUST TO PUT THINGS, I CAN TELL IF IT WAS A ONE-YEAR TO FIVE-YEAR, TENURE. YOU HAD GRAPHS WITH THE NOTE. I DIDN'T KNOW. AND THEN -- YOU GUYS SAID HOUSING COSTS ARE NO MORE EXPENSIVE IN MANY COMMUNITIES BUT BELOW THE AVERAGE. BUT THE LATER ON, YOU SAID THAT HUTTO HAS A BELOW AVERAGE HOUSING PRICES FOR CENTRAL TEXAS EACH IN, BUT HIGHER PRICES WHEN COMPARED TO LOCAL CITIES SUCH A -- AND TANNER. I READ IT A COUPLE TIMES AND IT MADE SENSE, BUT WE JUST REDO THAT. IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE SAYING MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSING THAN EVERYBOD ELSE BUT THEN LATER ON, WE HAV SOME OF THE CHEAPEST HOUSING THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT. I KIND OF LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ALL REALISTIC OUT THERE. AGAIN, SHOWING'S PICTURES OF THE WHOLE

[03:10:01]

OVERALL, IT KIND OF FELT LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A SUBURBA AREA AN URBAN AREA AND WE ARE TRYING TO BRING AUSTIN TO HUTTO WITH A LOT OF THINGS. I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL THAT MEET FROM CALIFORNIA TO CALIFORNIA HAVE MOVED HERE.

THEY DON'T LIKE AUSTIN AND THEY MOVE HERE. AND KIND OF THE OVERALL PLAN IS WE ARE GOING T BE DENSE, URBAN STUFF. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RETAIL AND STUFF ON THE TOP. YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ALL COMMERCIAL UP ON THE STREETS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT DOES NOT GO WELL. I ALWAYS SAY THIS ARGUMENT WHEN I GO IN FRON OF CITIES THAT WANT THAT. IF IT WORKED, CAPITALISTS ARE GREEDY PEOPLE. SO IF IT WORKS, THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. IT DOESN'T WORK AND THEY DON'T LIK THAT. SO AS SOON AS YOU START MANDATING THAT, YOU SEE A LOT O THIS STUFF GO OUT. AND WHAT I FOUND HIS DENSITIES WOULD TO WIDEN THE ROAD, THEY CAN'T, BECAUSE THEY HAVE $1 BILLION WORTH OF RETAIL SITTING ON THE CORNER FOR THE OTHER THING I SA IS YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON HOME SOPHISTRY. AND THEN PEOPLE PAR IN THE BACK AND ALL THAT. WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT. THINK EVERYBODY HATES IT.

THEY'RE ALL PARKING ON THE STREETS ON THE STREETS WERE DESIGNED TO HAVE PARKING. IT WAS DESIGNED TO PARK IN THE BAC BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST LAZY. THE FRONT DOOR IS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PARK IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND WALK AROUND TO THE FRONT. SO THEY PARK AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST HAVE TO GET USED TO IT. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THINGS LIKE THAT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF COMPLETELY -- HUTTO . LET'S SEE OVERALL, I LIKE THE IDEAS. I LIKE THE THEORIES. WAS TALKING TO CINDY MANAGEMENT ABOUT THIS.

I WAS GET CONCERNED ON THESE PLANS BECAUSE YOU CAN IDENTIFY ROADS AND WATER WASTEWATER WITH DATA. YOU CAN ONLY PUMP SO MUCH THROUGH THE LINE. IF YOU THRO TOO MANY IDEAS THAT ARE UNREALISTIC THAT ARE NEVER GOIN TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO, YOU GUYS DIDN'T DO IT, BUT SOMEBOD WANTED TO BUILD A PARK OVER 79.

I MEAN, THE COST ON THAT WAS SO SUBSTANTIAL THAT A TONE OF OUR SIZE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. PEOPLE THINK OH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. SO WE SPENT ALL OF OUR TIME TRYING TO BUILD A PARK OVER A HIGHWAY THA I DON'T EVEN HAVE PEOPLE USING.

I SEE TOO MANY PARKS OVER HIGHWAYS FOR THAT'S NEWEST THING, RIGHT? I HOPE THIS COMES BACK, WE KIND OF TAKE THE URBANIZATION OUT OF IT AND LOOK AT IT MORE LIKE WE ARE A SUPPER WE CAN'T HAVE SOME OF THAT FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION THAT LIKES IT OR THE OLDER GENERATION THAT MISSES URBAN AREAS. BUT OVERALL, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT.

I'M PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. IT IS JUST IT NEEDS SOME TWEAKING. SO. I AM SURE JAMES AND -- WHAT I WROTE.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE ACTION ON THI TONIGHT? OR CAN WE JUST NOT TAK ACTION AND HAVE IT COME BACK? WOULD SAY BECAUSE THIS FIRST READING, GO AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION AND DIRECT US TO RESPOND AND MAKE THE CHANGES SUGGESTED AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK

FOR A SECOND MEETING. >> YOUR COMMENTS HAS BEEN

[03:15:06]

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. ON THE SOUTHEAST COURT OR, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT MAKE SENSE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT DOING MORE , THIS IS ALL CONCEPTUAL. BUT HAVING MORE O THAT COMMERCIAL BE ON THE FRONTAGE AND IN THE MULTI FAMILY BEHIND THAT? AND IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY. OR YOU WANTING T SEE THE COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND THEN INDUSTRIAL?

>> IF I WAS PLANNING SIMCITY AND THIS IS WHAT I KEPT THINKIN ABOUT ON THIS. IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN FRONT, FOLLOWED BY MULTIFAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY UP FRONT. AND THEN GOING TO SINGLE-FAMILY. THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU GO TO THE TEMPLE AREA, THEY HAVE LOOPS BUILT EVERY AREA IN THAT CITY, EVERY MOUNTAIN. AND NOBODY IS BUILDING ON THE LOOPS. IT IS NO AS HIGH GROWTH. THEY JUST DON' BUILD. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS BECAUSE I THINK FOR MYSELF, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A MAJOR INTERSECTION. LIKE A 1660 IN SOUTHEAST, MAJOR INTERSECTION.

YOU CAN PUT A GROCERY STORE IN THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MOS OF YOUR COMMERCIAL LOOPS ARE PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO COME. S

I DON'T KNOW. >> THEY DO LOOPS DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OURS DON'T EVER LOOP IN CENTRAL TEXAS IN AUSTIN. SO MAYBE THAT IS WHY , BUT I TELL YOU IN THOSE COMMERCIAL AIRS, I YOU LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD, MULTIPLE FAMILY IS A PART OF THOSE DASHBOARDS AND COMMERCIAL IT IS SHOWING ON THE FUTURE LAN USE MAP BUT YOU CAN FLIP IN THE DASHBOARD. THAT DOES CALL OUT

SOME MULTIFAMILY'S AND THERE. >> I COULDN'T TELL.

>> IT WAS WE WANT COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS , BUT THAT IS WHERE WE WANT TO GET THOSE MIX OF USES.

YOU CAN HAVE THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY. WE DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS ONE SWAP IS JUST MULTIFAMILY. WE DO WANT TO SEE THAT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS AND THOSE MIX OF USES. YOU CAN WALK SOMEWHERE FO THAT.

>> IF YOU PUT FIVE OR 10,000 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY ALL IN THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, BUT THEN YOU HAVE 1000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL THAT WAS BETWEEN THE LOOP AND THAT, YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL THAT A SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTHEAST LOO THE BOTTOM WITH ANYBODY UP NORT , GO DOWN TO 79, AND THEN GO TO 54 NINE, AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE TO DO ANYTHING. WE ARE INPATIENT PEOPLE. WE COMPLAIN WHICH IS FIVE MINUTES AWAY. THAT IS AN HUTTO. WE WANT A HUTTO GROCERY STORE . TH COMPLAINT OUGHT TO BE YOU HAVE TO PARK AT THE CHINESE RESTAURANT TO GO TO -- TO VISIT. INSTEAD, THE COMPLAINT I AND HOW BUSY IT IS. IT IS NOT AN HUTTO. AND THAT IS FIVE MINUTES AWAY. ? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT BOB IS GOING T BE ABLE TO BRING IN ON THIS, OBVIOUSLY. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE

UP TO IT. >> THE MANAGER VISIT. THEIR OW 35. IT REALLY WAS AWESOME TO SE ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS , DINING SHOPPING. AND THEN SPACE AND THE MULTIFAMILY AS A BUFFER.

AND THEN , LIKE TOWNHALL AND KIND OF LIKE THEN IT WENT AND

WE, IT WAS REALLY COOL. >> I THINK JUST -- I THINK WE ARE DOING. IT IS LIKE IF YOU SA YOU HAVE A STUDENT WHO LIVES HERE WITH THEIR PARENTS, THEN THEY GO TO TFCC AND THEY GET THEIR OWN APARTMENT POINT THEY HAVE AN APARTMENT HERE IN HUTTO WHAT KIND OF STAYS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO EDUCATE HERE, GET A JOB HERE, LIVE HERE, BEARD THEIR FAMILY HERE. I MEAN, THI IS IDEALISTIC, RIGHT? PEOPLE D MOVE. BUT IF YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP THEM HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? WITH HOUSING AND OTHER BUSINESSES, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, THEY ARE A

STUDENT. >> TRYING TO GET INTO A JOB AN WITH THE TITAN FACILITIES , RIGHT? EVENTUALLY, THEY GET A SENSE OF JOB AND THEY GO TO EXECUTIVE LEVEL HOUSING. RIGHT? THEY KIND OF STILL STAY IN THI AREA AND THEY'RE BUILDING THIS AREA AND BRING IN, YOU KNOW, QUALITY.

THAT CONCEPT. BUT JUST HUTTO, KEEPING THAT SMALL-TOWN FIELD .

RIGHT? >> THE GENERATIONAL ROOTS.

>> I LOVE THAT. I HAVE EXTREME CONCERNS ABOUT THE GENERATIONAL COACH NO WHERE THEY GO TO LIVE. BECAUSE THE HOUSING IS SO EXPENSIVE , AND I IS ONLY GOING TO GO HIGHER.

I DON'T KNOW. UNTIL CONSTRUCTION COSTS COME DOWN,

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>> I THINK IT IS A BALANCE, RIGHT? WE DID HAVE APARTMENTS IN HUTTO UNTIL RECENTLY WE HAV STARTED TO HAVE MORE. THERE IS PORTRAIT IS TOO MANY. WHAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, THOSE AR THE PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE HERE. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST OUT OF COLLEGE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. THE LOOK FOR AN APARTMENT BEFORE THEY LOOK FOR HOUSE FIVE OR 10 YEARS LATER.

THEY LIVE IN AN APARTMENT FIRST RIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL AND GET ESTABLISHED. THEY CAN'T DO THAT IN HUTTO VERY EASILY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE AREN'T VERY MANY APARTMENTS. I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE, NOBODY DOES. BUT WE HAVE GOT AREAS AROUND THE -- IN THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THERE. AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING T COME IN AND FILL SOME OF THAT GAP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT IT'S ALL A MATTER OF HOW MUCH T ENCOURAGE, HOW MUCH TO ALLOW IF

IT IS GOING TO BE TOO MUCH. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIO TO APPROVE THE HUTTO COMPLINE PRESENTED WITH THE COMMENTS TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR THE CHANGES AND THE COUNSEL COMMENTS AND THE TREATMENTS OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND PRESENTE BY THE PUBLIC AFTER THE DRAFT POSITION.

>> A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ? HEARING ON, THE MOTION DIES. T HAVE A QUESTION. DOES IT HAVE TO BE TWO SEPARATE READINGS? O THE SAME DAY?

>>

>> THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T SECOND , BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER SEE THE CHANGES. THE SECOND READING AN THEN -- A LOT OF PEOPLE SUBMITTED THINGS. SO THAT IS MY PREROGATIVE.

>> IF THERE IS ENOUGH CHANGES COMING, IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES BACK. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT I AM APPROVING RATHER THAN A PROVE SOMETHING AND IT'S GOING TO

CHANGE, POTENTIALLY >> I THINK I HEARD WE HAVE CHANGED. I DON'T THINK I SAW TH REVISED DOCUMENT. THE CHANGES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE BY SOMEBODY ELSE'S NOTES? SPOKE WITH HAD SOME CHANGES MADE. I'V SEEN THAT DOCUMENT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FAIR OF P&Z AND THEN YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFEREN

-- >> I HAVE READ THIS LIKE FIVE TIMES. YES.

>> IF WE CAN GET A CHANGELESS? >> YOU HAVE THE LIST OF CHANGES TOO. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE. YOU HAVE THE COMMENTARY AS WELL. OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SENT IN. THE ONLY THING I WANT CLARIFICATION ON , THE LETTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO RIGHT THAT WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO DO THAT

>>

AND JAMES CAN MARKET UP . >> IT IS LETTER FROM LEADERSHIP THAT IS WHY WE HADN'T TAKEN IT ON BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL HAS THE ABILITY T EVEN GO OUT FOR THIS PLAN. THAT IS WHY I WAS THINKING THIS WAS FROM COUNSEL.

>> WHY DON'T I DO A DRAFT , THE STAFF PASSES IT TO YOU ALL AND WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES. IT WON'T BE A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR. IT WILL BE A CHANGE OR LETTER -- IT WORKS WE ALL TAKE

CREDIT. IF IT BOMBS -- >>

>> GOT IT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT BACK ON SO IT GOES TO YOU. AGAIN, WE REALLY NEED THOSE COMMENTS BY NOON ON THE 25TH WHICH IS JUST UNDER A WEEK. SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THEIR YOU WOULD LIKE A SECOND OR SOMETHING, YOU HAVE AN ITEM WIT SOME CLARIFICATION, I TOOK NOTES. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THIS GROUP RECORDED SO IF YOU COULD GIVE ME CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. CERTAINLY, HAVE READ THROUGH THIS A LOT AN HAVE PLACED IN MY DOCUMENTS SO

[12.3. Discussion and possible action regarding Old Town Speed Limits. (Councilmember Sutton)]

YOU CAN MAKE THE CHANGES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.3 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING OLDTOWN SPEED LIMITS.

[03:25:07]

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS AGAIN.

NOW THAT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANC TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT CHIEFS T ITS PRESENTATION. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOU WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IN OLDTOW IS PEDANTIC A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS 35, BUT IT IS 30. THERE IS ONE 30 PER ALL SIGN. THE REASON I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SPEED LIMIT BE REDUCED TO 25 IS ACTUALLY TWO FOLD, REALLY. ON IS SAFETY. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. WE HAVE VER DEEP DRAINAGE DITCHES ROOTS O SOMEBODY HAS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF A CAR, THEY ARE IN A DITCH ON THE SIDEWALK OR SOMEONE'S YARD. I SPOKE WITH CHRIS WEINGART TODAY. HE IS HEADING UP THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AT DURANGO. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE TH CLUBHOUSE OPEN IN MARCH AND START LEASING IN APRIL. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE 280 SCHEDULED UNITS , GRANTED, THEY WILL NOT SELL ALL OF THE SAME TIME. BUT I AM OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF LET'S GET AHEAD OF THE PROBLEM BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM. WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY TEARING UP 1660. WERE GOING TO HAVE AN INFLOW OF TRAFFIC GOING TO AND FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THROUGH OLD TOWN. I THINK BECAUSE OF OLD TOWN'S UNIQUE SITUATION AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK OUR STREETS , AND THE CONDITION OF THE ROADS, WE GOT THE REPORT TODAY. WE HAVE THE WORST ROADS IN TOWN . THAT IS NOT A SURPRIS TO ANYBODY. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO GET AHEAD OF IT, AND LOWERED THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25. LIKE I SAID GET AHEAD OF IT BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM. I HAD ONE GIRL, I GOT OUT OF MY CAR. SHE WAS FLYING BY. I DIDN'T SAY SHE WAS SPITTING, BUT SHE WILL DO HER WINDOW, SHE SAID I PROMISE, I AM GOING 35! I AM THINKING, THAT IS STILL TOO FAST. ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT I REALLY LOVE THE CULTURE AND THE NATURE OF OLD TOWN, NOT JUST OUR SIDE OF IT, BUT THE EAST SIDE OF IT AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE. I THINK THAT 1660 SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THAT FEE LIMIT LOWERING. I DON'T KNOW I WE CAN DO THAT IN THE OLD TOWN TERRITORY. SO THAT'S WHY I A ASKING COUNSEL TO ALLOW US TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT THE SITUATION , WITH THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT SHOULD BE. WHAT THE COST TO PUT UP SPEED LIMIT SIGN WOULD BE SO WE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US. JUST KINDA GET AHEAD OF IT BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE OR SOMEBODY GETS HURT SO WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY

WANT TO TALK? >> WELL, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT WAS GIVEN, THE AVERAG SPEED FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPL IS 24 MILES PER HOUR. THEY'RE ALREADY DRIVING UNDER 25 WITH A LIMIT OF 30. SO I DON'T SEE WH WE WOULD GO SPEND A TON OF MONE TO TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE ABLE TO LOWER IT TO 25. WELL, THERE IS IT REQUIRES A BUNCH OF OTHER DOCUMENTATION AND A TWO YEAR MONITORING OF IT TO GET IT LOWER TO THAT. WE ARE ALREADY THERE AT MAYBE 5%. I MEAN, THER WAS .77% OF PEOPLE , VEHICLES THAT WENT OVER 30 MILES PER HOUR. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD , IF YOU DID A TRAFFIC STUDY, HE WOULD SAY THE DATA DOESN'T WARRANT LOWERING THE SPEED.

>> CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO LOWER I

TO 25? >> TECHNICALLY, THAT IS A LEGAL QUESTION. DOTTIE WON'T GIVE ME TOO BAD OF EVIL LIES.

>> IT IS LAID OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH ERIC IT IS EXACTLY IN THE STAFF REPORT AND NO, YO DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPEED STUD TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION . BUT IF YOU DON'T, THEN THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY. I THINK THAT IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK WAS ALLUDING TO . THERE ARE DIFFERENT REPORTING REQUIREMENT AND COMPARISONS THAT HAVE TO BE

DONE. >> YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT IS UNREASONABLE OR UNSAFE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DO THE STUDIES EVER YEAR TO SHOW YES, THIS IS, WHA IT IS GOING TO SAY IS WE'RE GOING TO REPORTING SAYING THERE IS NO CHANGE. EVERYBODY IS DRIVING THE SAME SPEED LIMIT

[03:30:02]

>> HERE IS WHAT MY PROBLEM IS. I GET TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE.

WITH THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM. THE

ROUNDABOUT. >> THE ROUNDABOUTS.

>> THERE IS SCARY. >> WE HAVE GOT THIS REAL NERVOUS -- AND A FLOOD OF PEOPLE THAT IS GOING TO CLOG AL THE STREETS. EVERY TIME I DRIVE THROUGH THEIR, I DON'T SEE ANY CARS ON THE ROAD. I JUST DON'T EVER SEE THEM. I GET THERE ARE 280 APARTMENTS COMING. BUT 99. PER SIX PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 21.14 ON THIS LINE .91 WITH 50% OF THE PEOPLE WERE 20.57. AND AT THE ENDPOINT WERE DRIVING 20.81. YOU COULD SET THE LIMIT AT 20 MILES PER HOUR AND YOU WOULDN'T CATCH ANYBODY SPEEDING THE WAY THEY ARE GOING SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING W NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON WHEN THINGS FILL UP. BUT I JUST, I CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO SPEND MONEY ON A CODE OF WHEN WE HAVE THINGS WE KNOW TODAY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SIT AND WAIT WHEN THE APARTMENTS COME UP IN MARCH BECAUSE WE GO AND MARK ALL THIS, I CAN TELL YOU MY NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GO 25. AND I A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS THEY, 30 IS A GOOD, REASONABLE SPEED LIMIT. THEY WERE ALL GOING TO BE 25 AND THEN WE ARE TALKING NOT JUST 10 SIGNS, WHER TALKING, I DO KNOW HOW MANY WE HAD. BUT IF IT IS AN ISSUE, I THINK WE COME BACK. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, THIS DATA IS SO INTERESTING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COST IS TO PARK A TRAILER OUT THERE. HAVING SOME OF OUR BUSIER CORRIDORS WITH SIGNS AND OPERATE WAS SOLAR. THAT DOESN'T FLASH THE SPEED LIMIT THE TRACKS INFORMATION AL THE TIME. WE JUST HAVE A REOCCURRING INFORMATION. BECAUS AS I READ THIS STUFF, PEOPLE -- IT IS MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE DITCHES ON THE SIDE IF YOU DO DRIVE OFF INTO THE CARPET A LOT OF THINGS WITH THAT.

>> ARE YOU ALMOST HIT SOMEBODY AND ARE KIND OF SHUFFLING.

>> I THINK ANOTHER FACTOR IS , AND FOURTHLY, THE ROAD CONDITIONS OF OLD TOWN. I DON' DRIVE THE ROADS FREQUENTLY BECAUSE I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 79. THAT WHENEVER I AM UP THERE, I AM VERY CAUTIOUS BECAUSE I AM NOT COMING YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. EVEN WHEN I APPROACH THE TRAFFI CIRCLE, I AM LIKE, HOLD ON.

I'M NOT GOING TO YIELD BECAUSE DON'T TRUST THIS. I JUST THINK THE ROAD CONDITIONS ARE KIND O KEEPING THIS BE DOWN. I KNOW THAT I DON'T WANT TO BOTTOM OU MY CAR. I DON'T WANT TO POP A TIRE. YOU KNOW? MESS UP MY ALIGNMENT , WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY THING THAT WOUL HAPPEN FOR SOMEONE WHO IS SPEEDING . IF THERE IS SPEEDING THEY COULD FLIP THEIR CAR , ROL OF, YOU KNOW, THE WORST OF THE WORST, RIGHT? IF YOU ARE SPEEDING THROUGH ON MOST ROADS IN THAT CONDITION. SO I THINK THAT THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROA ARE WHAT IS KEEPING PEOPLE UNDER 30 OR LIKE KIND OF IN THAT SPEED LIMIT.

I THINK , OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE OUTLIERS AND EVERYTHING. BU I DON'T THINK THAT IT I GUESS NECESSARY TO LOWER IT FIVE MILES AN HOUR TO 25. WITHOUT KIND OF KNOWING THE ROAD CONDITIONS. AND ALSO, I REMEMBE A RESIDENT COMING UP HERE.

REMEMBER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES? ARE TALKIN ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. LIKE WHY AR WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THESE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW ONCE WE OPEN UP THE GATES TO DURANGO, WHATEVER YOU DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DRIVE . YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACT AND WHAT ROUTES THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE. THERE AR A LOT OF UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT EVEN WITHOUT THE APARTMENTS STARTING TO RENT OUT. SO I GUES WE SHOULDN'T TAKE HIM I GUESS. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE PREEMPTIVE ACTION, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.

>> FAIR ENOUGH. >> I THINK IT IS KIND OF OPEN A CAN OF WORMS . I KNOW EMORY FIRMS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO COME IN RIGHT AWAY AND SAY SLOW DOWN THE TRUCKS IN OU NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEED TO SLOW OUR SPIELER. I KNOW THE CARAMEL

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SPEEDING. >> I WASN'T BREAKING.

LAUGHTER ] >> OH, PETER. BUCKET WAS IN TH AFTERNOON BETWEEN 2:00 AND 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON .

>> IT IS THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

>> YET, BUT I THINK WITH SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE DRIVING UNDER THE SPEED LIMIT ALREADY, I THINK IT REALLY ISN' GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. SO GIVEN THAT, I DON'T SEE A REASO

TO CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT. >> OKAY, IS THERE KIND OF LIK THE -- AFFECT ? IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF IT TOO, RIGHT? THA IS WHY THEY RUN IT WITH THE SIG UP FOR PART OF THE TIME. AND OU GUYS SAID BOTH TIMES WITH IT ON AND OFF.

SCHOOL ZONES . AS SOON AS I SEE THAT I AM LIKE GO CHECK THE SPEEDOMETER. I I AM CONSCIOUS OF IT, RIGHT? SAME WITH THE

TRAILER. >> I'M SORRY. I DO MEAN TO INTERRUPT. WHEN WE DO IMPROVE THE ROADS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOU THE ROAD CONDITIONS. YOU KNOW HOW WE HAVE THE NICE GRAVY NEEDED THING COMING UP THE BOULEVARD? IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALONG THE STREETS, AN THEY DID IMPROVE, THAT WOULD KEEP THAT SPEED DOWN AND WE WON'T HAVE TO SPEED LIMIT EITHER EVEN IF THE ROADS IMPROV BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE NATURAL

SLOWDOWN EFFECTS. >> YET.

>> THAT WAS ANOTHER OPTION WITH THIS OPTION.

>> WE DON'T WANT TO RIP IT UP BECAUSE THE COST A LOT MORE.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS THERE, S WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE

THE SIDEWALKS. >> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS. A MILITARY BRAT AND MOVED AROUND WHOLE LOT. THIS IS A TEXAS THING. EVERYTHING IS BIGGER AND FASTER IN TEXAS . THIS ONLY PLACE I HAVE LIVED FOR RESIDENTIAL IS -- HAS ALWAYS BEEN 25. IT IS ALWAYS 25. AND U TALKING ABOUT WANTING IT TO B DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY. WANTING IT TO BE MORE COMMUNITY FRIENDLY, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTED, WALK ABILITY.

POSSIBLY SOME OF CONTAINERS. I LOVE THAT.

>> FAVOR OF DROPPING IT TO 20. I THINK HAVING THOSE KIND OF CLEA BOUNDARIES OF WHERE DOES OLD TOWN START , WHERE DOES OLD TOWN END. I THINK HE DOES OLD TOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONCRETE BOUNDARY AS FAR AS WHAT IT CONSIDERED OLD TOWN. AN IF WE ARE WANTING TO INCREASE THE COMMUNITY BY THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND KITS AND PARKS AND WE ARE HAVING ALL THESE GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HER WANTING THIS WHOLE CONNECTIVITY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FRITZ PARK, I THIN THAT MAYBE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT TO 20 MIGHT BE A BETTER THING. I WOULD ARGUE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT -- WITH EMORY FIRM ARE EVER IT MAY BE.

IT IS NOT THAT I'M AGAINST THAT IT IS JUST THE WHOLE PURPOSE O US WANTING TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN IS FOR PEDESTRIANS VERSUS JUST INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THAT THE ARE UNIQUE IN THAT FACT. THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT WE WANT TO WORK TOWARDS. EVENTUALLY, THE QUALITY OF THE ROADS WILL GET BETTER, HOPEFULLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW.

FOR ME, I'M KIND OF MORE IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THAT AND I WOULD LOWER IT TO 20 MILES PER HOUR.

>> YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT A STUDY THOUGH, FOR SURE.

>> I THINK OF IT -- ONE PERSON'S LIFE OR ONE KIDS LIFE.

IF SOMEONE IS GOING 20 VERSUS 30. I DON'T KNOW.

>> ANYMORE DISCUSSION OR ACTION?

>> I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MAY BE IN THE FUTURE REASSESSING THIS AS OLD TOWN DEVELOPS AS THE SAFETY MAJORS AND YOU GET SIDEWALKS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I KNOW PEOPLE WALK O THE ROAD. I THINK THAT THERE I JUST A LOT OF STUFF WE HAVE TO DO FURTHER ROAD, SIDEWALKS, SPEED LIMITS, SAFETY, EVERYTHING. I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE KIND OF -- BECAUSE

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IT IS NOT OFF THE TABLE FOR ME. BUT JUST IN THE FUTURE AS WE

SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. >>

[13. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[14. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> 14.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO 551 . 0071. LEGAL CONSULTATION. 551 .

007 TO REAL PROPERTY, AND 551 . 087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS REGARDING STRUCTURE AND FUNDING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REAL PROPERTY, ACQUISITIONS BY THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO IMPROVE EXPENDITURES TO THE CORPORATION TYPE B TO ACQUIRE LOANS. THIS IS NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE COMPLEMENT ORGANIZATION PROPERTY.

>> SECOND. >> IN A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> PETER GORDON, MAYOR SNYDER, FRITZ PARK, PETER GORDON, ROBIN SUTTON, KRYSTAL KINSEY , ANYONE ELSE?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES TO ZERO. WE HAVE CONSIDERABLE POSSIBLE ACTION.

>> NO NECESSARY ACTION. >> MOVE ON FROM 14.4.

REALLOCATING THE 1.2 MILLION OF APPROPRIATED AND BUDGETED FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE NORTH ARTERIAL ROADWAY ON THE MEGA SITE TO FUND THE EAST-WEST SPINE ROAD FOR THE WEBSITE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND?

>> THE MOTION IS DIFFERENT. >> IS A?

>> NEEDED TO DO A DIFFERENT ONE?

>> THAT WAS 14.5. >> ARE WE DOING TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? ARE WE DOING JUST THE ONE? I SEE. DO WE NEED TO READ

14.5? I WILL WITHDRAW. >> WILL NEED TO READ 14.5,

SINCE IT COVERS BOTH. >> IS IT BECAUSE IT IS AFTER MIDNIGHT? DO WE NEED TO READ THAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS SEPARATE. >> IT WAS CONFUSING. IT WILL ALSO COVER REALLOCATING THESE FUNDS.

>> PART OF THAT IS --

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>> OKAY. >> WE ARE DIRECTING THE STAFF TO HAVE THE ALLOCATION ISSUE OF UP TO 12 MILLION IN BONDS FROM THE 2022 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND. THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF SPINE ROAD AT THE MEGA SITE.

>> I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AN $8 MILLION FUND ROAD CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE B

MEGA SITE PROJECT. >> SECOND.

>> LOOKING TO DISCUSSION WITH PETER GORDON.

>> DON'T WE NEED TO KEEP GOING THROUGH? WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE RELOCATION OF THE 11.2.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY MOTION AMENDMENT TO ADD THE ACTION TO REALLOCATE THE 1.12 MILLION APPROPRIATED BUDGET FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE NORTH ROADWAY, AND TO FUND THE MEGA SITE. IN ADDITION TO THE

12 MILLION FUNDS. >> ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THAT

FROM THE AMENDMENT? >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?

>> OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING?

>> I DON'T. >> I DON'T EITHER.

>> I WILL COLLECT THE MOTION TO PUT IT WITH THE PACKET.

>> QUESTION AND CLARIFICATION. THE INITIAL MOTION WAS 8

MILLION? IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, INSTEAD OF 12.

>> IT WAS 8 MILLION OUT OF FUNDS INSTEAD OF BONDING FOR 12. I MISTAKENLY TOLD HER THAT THE 1.2 RELOCATION WAS PART OF THAT. IT WASN'T. THAT IS WHY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK BROUGHT IT

UP. >> I THINK WE ARE ALL TIRED. I THINK WE SHOULD STOP, GO BACK INTO 14.4 BY ITSELF, AND HAVE

OTHERS THAT ARE NOT 4.8. >> IT IS NOT NEEDED?

>> IT IS NOT. I THINK YOU ARE GETTING CONFUSED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THAT NUMBER. BE MAC WE HAD THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CORPORATION. THIS IS HOW IT

WAS WRITTEN. >> 14.5 WAS THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR THE SPINE ROAD. WAS IT IDENTIFIED TO THE MOTION?

>> SHE ONLY SAID EIGHT IN WHAT IT WORKED OUT.

>> THE EIGHT WAS NEEDED AFTER THE END OF THE 1.12.

>> IT WAS 14 DOWN TO 12. >> HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW ABOUT WE SAY WE DO 14.4 ON ITS OWN, THEN WE GO TO 14.5, AND WE GO UP TO 12. THE STAFF COMES BACK, AND WE ARE COVERED. WE ARE COVERED.

>> THAT IS FINE. >> THIS WAS UP TO 13?

>> LET'S MAKE IT UP TO 14. >> YOU CAN'T GO OVER.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> ARE WE SENDING ALL OF THE MOTIONS?

>> I'M GOING TO GO FOR 14.4 MOTION.

>> THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

>> THIS IS NOT YOUR MOTION. THIS IS ALL OF MY MOTION.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE PRIME MOTION THAT YOU GUYS TOLD ME I

DIDN'T NEED TO DO. >> IT IS A LITTLE BIT PUNCHY.

>> THEY ARE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE 14.4. IT IS READY TO

GO? >> PRESENTED.

>> HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER, CLARK, FRITZ PARK, PETER GORDON, MANDI VILLARREAL SALVO, ROBIN SUTTON, DAN THORNTON, ANYONE

ELSE? >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSED. NEXT, PER VOTING STAFF FOR THE ALLOCATION ISSUE OF UP TO 12 MILLION IN BONDS FOR THE 2022 OBLIGATION BOND FUND. THIS IS THE TO A CONSTRUCTION FOR THE

MEGA SITE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE? THIS IS

AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

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>> CALLED ON. >> THIS MOTION WAS TO ISSUE BONDS? I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL WANTED TO ALLOCATE EXISTING FUNDS, RATHER THAN ISSUING BONDS FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T

HAVE. IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT IS OTHER BONDS?

>> THANK YOU. >> WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO

DO THE FULL THING. >> REMEMBER, IT IS UP TO 12

MILLION. >> COUNCILMAN PETER GORDON, ASSISTANT TO MANDI VILLARREAL SALVO, WHAT ARE WE THINKING?

>> IT WAS 12 MILLION FOR FUNDING TO THE EDC.

>> THIS IS UP TO 12 MILLION IN BONDS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BOND ISSUANCE. WE CAN DO THAT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

EDC. >> I REMEMBER. WE WERE JUST GOING TO ISSUE UP TO 12 MILLION TO THE EDC. THIS IS TO THEM. WE KNOW WHEN THE BOND STUFF COMES BACK TO US. WE KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE. THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

>> THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

>> IT IS JUST ABOUT NUMBERS. >> WE ARE GETTING WAY INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS ONE. THIS IS JUST COMING THROUGH WITH IT. WE ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO BASICALLY BRING THIS BACK FOR MORE PAPERWORK TO WORK ON. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. THAT IS WHAT

WE ARE GOING TO BRING BACK. >> ALL IT IS IS TO ALLOCATE UP TO $12 MILLION IN THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER

CORPORATIONS. >> HE WROTE THE WRONG NUMBER ON

IT. >> READ THAT, AND MAKE IT 12.

>> WE HAVE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE

MOTIONS. >> YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO

THROUGH WITH IT. >>

>> BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION, WE HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WE CAN SAY NET. THIS COULD CAUSE IT TO GO ABOVE 12, RIGHT? THIS CAN ONLY BE UP TO THAT, AND THAT IS IT.

>> BECAUSE THIS IS A FUNDING AGREEMENT, THERE IS NO NET.

>> YOU CAN'T SAY NET. >> OKAY.

>> I WILL TRY THIS AGAIN. MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE UP TO $12 MILLION IN SPINE ROAD CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT

OF PROJECT. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? BECKY? ROBIN SUTTON AND PETER GORDON.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY.

>> WE DON'T NEED TO CLARIFY THESE AS A GL, CORRECT?

>> THAT IS A DETAIL. >> THIS IS JUST FOR THE BUDDING AGREEMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING

NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER ROBIN SUTTON, COUNCILMEMBER KRYSTAL KINSEY, MAYOR SNYDER, DAN THORNTON , FRITZ PARK, I THINK THAT IS SEVEN.

>> AYE . >> MOTION PASSES. HEARING NONE, WE WILL ADJOURN AT

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