Feb 02, 2023 City Council

[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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>>> IT'S 7:00, I'M GOING TO CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2023, TO ORDER.

WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON.

>> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.

>> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK.

>> HERE. >> MAYOR SNYDER IS HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON. >> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR. >> HERE.

>> NEXT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> NEXT, WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS.

[5.1. Black History Month]

OFTEN IN THE FAITH OF PREJUDICE AND HARDSHIP.

AND WHEREAS THEIR FIGHT FOR EQUALITY, REPRESENTATION, AND RESPECT MOTIVATES US TO CONTINUE WORKING FOR A MORE EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE FUTURE FOR EVERY AMERICAN.

AND WHEREAS SINCE FEBRUARY 1926, A WEEK TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY WAS INITIATED BY AMERICAN HISTORIAN CARTER G.

WOODSON. AND WHEREAS IN 1976, THE WEEK WAS EXPANDED TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS AN OCCASION TO REDISCOVER THE ENDURING STORIES OF BLACK AMERICANS, MANY OF WHOM LIVED THROUGH THE SCOURGE OF SLAVERY, SEGREGATION, RACIAL PREJUDICE, AND DISCRIMINATION.

AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS A TIME TO COMMEMORATE BLACK AMERICANS' CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CHARACTER, CULTURE, AND ECONOMIC LIFE OF OUR STATE AND NATION. AND WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS A TIME TO HONOR BLACK AMERICANS' HEROISM AND PATRIOTISM THAT HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUND THE CONFIDENCE AND COURAGE TO PURSUE THEIR OWN DREAMS. AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVANCE OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOCUSES ATTENTION ON THE PERSISTENT NEED TO COMBAT RACISM AND INJUSTICE OF ALL TYPES AND BUILD A SOCIETY THAT LIVES UP TO ITS EGALITARIAN IDEALS. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO IS STRENGTHENED AND ENRICHED BY HIS DIVERSE CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS HUTTO REJECTS ANY DISCRIMINATION IN POLICIES.

AND WHEREAS HUTTO HAS MADE DIVERSITY AND EQUITY OF ALL GROUPS A PRIORITY AND SUPPORTS THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION TO RAISE AWARENESS AND PROMOTE ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.

THEREFORE I, MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2023 AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF HUTO. THISES TO AFFIRM THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PROTECT AND SERVE EVERYONE WHO RESIDES IN, WORKS IN, OR VISITS THE CITY OF HUTTO WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION AND ITS BELIEF IN THE DIGNITY, EQUALITY, AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE.

CHRISTY BARNES. UNFORTUNATELY NONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS COULD BE HERE TONIGHT DUE TO WEATHER AND WHATNOT. BUT I DO HAVE A REALLY QUICK PIECE TO READ TO YOU ALL ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.

SO IN RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH DURING FEBRUARY, THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE LEARNING ABOUT THOSE EVENTS, HISTORICAL FIGURES AND STORIES AS PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR. ALL THE BEST, THE HUTTO

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>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE WANT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO COME UP? YOU WANT TO COME UP OR STAND BACK THERE AND HOLD THE SIGNS? EVERYBODY WORE GOOD SHOES.

[5.2. World Hippo Day]

AND WHEREAS A FEW THEORIES HAVE EMERGED OVER THE YEARS ON HOW THE HIPPO CAME TO REPRESENT HUTTO.

THE MOST POPULAR OF WHICH INVOLVES A TRAIN.

WHEREAS WHEN IN 1915, A CIRCUS TRAIN TRAVELING THROUGH TOWN STOPPED AT THE HUTTO DEPOT TO FEED AND WATER THE ANIMALS ON BOARD. A HIPPO SUPPOSEDLY ESCAPED ITS CAR AND WANDERED IN THE COTTONWOOD CREEK NEAR THE RAIL LINE. AND WHEREAS THE HIPPO SHOWED NO INCLINATION TO REMOVE ITSELF, SO RESIDENTS TRIED TO COAX THE RELUCTANT HIPPO FROM THE WATER. AND WHEREAS SOON AFTER THE CIRCUS TRAIN DEPARTED, HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL ADOPTED THE HIPPO AS ITS MASCOT. IN AS EARLY AS 1923, THE HIPPO APPEARED ON OFFICIAL GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AND WHEREAS THERE ARE MORE THAN 3,000 CONCRETE HIPPOS OF ALL SIZES ADORNING THE COMMUNITY AND COUNTLESS HIPPO SPIRIT WEAR, SOUVENIRS AND DECOR. WHEREAS THE HUTTO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY REFERS TO ITSELF PROUDLY AS HIPPO NATION. THEREFORE I, MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 15TH AS WORLD HIPPO DAY IN HUTTO.

>> OKAY WELL GOOD EVENING. AGAIN CHRISTY BARNES, OUTREACH PROGRAM MANAGER ALONG WITH TAYLOR WHO IS PART OF THE TEAM.

WE WERE EXPECTING A BIT MORE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE THIS EVENING AS WE DO PARTNER WITH THE ISD IN THIS EVENT.

BUT AGAIN DUE TO WEATHER AND ALL OF THAT, WE UNFORTUNATELY WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THEM HERE. BUT WE DO INVITE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT FEBRUARY 15TH FROM 4:00 TO 6:00 RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE LOBBY.

FREE TO ATTEND. IT WILL BE ALL THINGS HIPPO, AND WE ARE SUPER EXCITED, AT LEAST I AM VERY PERSONALLY EXCITED FOR THE DEBUT OF THE HIPPO STORY DOCUMENTARY AS PUT ON BY AND FILMS EDITED BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND ALLISON.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE HOPE EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT OUT ON FEBRUARY 15TH 4:00 TO 6:00.

[6.1. Monthly Presentation for Capital Improvement Projects for Fiscal Year 2023 (Matt Rector)]

>> WHICH ONE IS FIRST? >> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 6.1, MONTHLY PRESENTATION FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR FISCAL

YEAR 2023. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER AS MATT RECTOR MAKES HIS WAY UP TO THE FRONT. WE WILL BE INTRODUCING MATT AND A NUMBER OF NEW STAFF TO THE CITY DURING THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS ITEM BEFORE MATT BEGINS, THE INTENT WITH

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THIS FIRST PRESENTATION WILL TAKE QUITE SOME TIME.

THERE'S ROUGHLY 40 PROJECTS BY MY COUNT THAT ARE ALL BEING UNDERTAKEN AT THE SAME TIME BETWEEN ROADS, WATER, AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THE IDEA IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE OUR PROJECTS ARE AND WHAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE OR IN SOME CASES WHAT PROGRESS IS NOT BEING MADE. AND THEN FOR US EACH MONTH TO COME BACK AND TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU SAW THE PRESENTATION.

SO GOING FORWARD, I WOULDN'T EXPECT THE PRESENTATION TO TAKE AS LONG AS IT'S GOING TO TAKE TONIGHT BECAUSE MATT WILL BE DESCRIBING EACH PROJECT, GIVING YOU THE DETAILS ABOUT IT, SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND OVERALL SUMMARY.

THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS. BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I EXPECT THAT TO BECOME SOMEWHAT MORE STREAMLINE AND NOT TAKE QUITE AS LONG. WHEN WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, WE'LL HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROGRESS AND THOSE THINGS ARE ALWAYS FUN AND INTERESTING TO SEE.

BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, THE PUBLIC CAN EXPECT TO START SEEING THESE UPDATES AT THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH BARRING SOMETHING BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

>> IS THERE A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO BACK AND SEE EITHER THIS PRESENTATION OR SOME KIND OF WAY FOR THEM TO GO BACK AND REFER TO

-- >> SO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS BEING PUT ONTO THE WEBSITE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION IS BEING EMBEDDED CURRENTLY.

BUT ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S CONTAINED IN THE PRESENTATION IS BEING PUT ONTO THE WEBSITE FOR EACH OF THESE

PROJECTS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS MATT RECTOR. I AM YOUR NEW CITY ENGINEER.

AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO GIVE YOU THE FIRST CIP UPDATE OF THE YEAR. BEFORE I GET TOO FAR INTO IT THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE GARVER TEAM, THE A2 TEAM, THE COMS TEAM AND THE FINANCE TEAM WHO HAVE SPENT THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO GET ME UP TO SPEED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN HUTTO. AS THE CITY MANAGER INDICATED, WE HAVE ABOUT 40-ISH PROJECTS, 32 ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDING IN FY23. OF THOSE 32, 17 ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN. TWO ARE IN CONSTRUCTION, ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE HAVE 11 THAT ARE ABOUT TO BEGIN.

SO WITH THAT, IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH OF THESE CONTROLLERS I'M SUPPOSED TO USE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE FM 1660 NORTH AFTER US-79. DESIGN IS COMPLETE, IT IS AWARDED FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS TO CONSTRUCT A SOUTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE ONTO 79.

AND THE WAY THE CONTRACT WAS SET UP WAS SO THAT AND THIS WAS A PART OF A TXDOT REQUIREMENT WAS SO THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND AWARD THE CONTRACTOR, HAVE THE CONTRACTOR PREPURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO AWARD THE CONTRACT AND THEN HAVE THE CONTRACTOR MOBILIZE AND THEN JUST BE SITTING OUT THERE FOR MONTHS WHILE WE WAIT FOR THESE LONG LEAD ITEMS. THE EQUIPMENT IS BEING ORDERED AND THEN WE EXPECT THE CONTRACTOR TO RECEIVE ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT BETWEEN NOW AND MAY AND SOMETIME IN MAY, WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE THEM MOBILIZING OUT THERE TO START CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS ACTUALLY IDEAL BECAUSE OF IT WOULD MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO SCHOOLS AND OTHER THINGS. AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETE BY THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

>> MATT, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, LET ME INTERJECT HERE QUICKLY TO ALERT EVERYONE TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE SHARING.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE.

AND THERE'S YET MORE TO COME WITH THE NEXT ITERATION.

SO THE TITLE IS AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. AND THEN YOU SEE EACH OF THE FIRMS THAT ARE ASSIGNED THAT PROJECT WILL BE LISTED SO THAT WAY YOU KNOW WHICH ENGINEERING FIRM IS WORKING ON WHICH PROJECT. AND THEN THE LETTER THAT'S IN RED, THE T1, THAT ALIGNS WITH THE LIST THAT COUNCIL WAS GIVEN ON THE VARIOUS TRANSPORTATION AND WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS. YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SUMMER WHEN YOU WERE BEING PRESENTED THESE AND YOU CAN GO WHAT WAS PROJECT T1 OR W9 OR WHATEVER, I THINK I JUST SAID W9 BECAUSE IT'S TAX SEASON. BUT YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD ALIGN.

THE NEXT THING IS THE CURRENT STATUS.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT AS IT STANDS TODAY. THE WHAT'S NEXT IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAPPEN, WELL WHAT'S NEXT, WHAT'S COMING NEXT, THE IMPORTANT ITEMS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING.

AND THEN THE TIMELINE, THE CY THAT STANDS FOR CALENDAR YEAR.

A LOT OF TIMES IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT WE TALK FISCAL YEARS.

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THAT'S SECOND QUARTER CALENDAR YEAR 23 SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK IN MARCH WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK, WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ITEM WHERE WE WILL HAVE THE FINANCING PART OF ALL OF THIS.

SO ALL OF THE NUMBERS, ALL OF THE MATH, ALL OF THE BUDGET, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. ANYWAY AND THEN WE'VE TRIED TO INCLUDE A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT FOR THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, THESE NICE ONES THAT SHOW FROM THE WORK THAT COMMUNICATIONS HAS DONE AND THEN WHENEVER WE DON'T, WE JUST USE GIS MAPS THAT SHOW ROUTES.

SO ANYWAY, SORRY, MATT, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT DATA IS ON EACH OF THESE SLIDES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

I'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS, SO I ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS WHAT I DO. THE SECOND PROJECT IS THE FM 1660 LOOP AGAIN HNTB, THIS IS T2 IN THE ORIGINAL CIP.

WE ARE 95% DESIGN COMPLETE. WE ARE STILL AWAITING FINAL APPROVAL FROM TXDOT. BUT IN ORDER TO GET THAT, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION.

AND ON THIS ONE, WE HAD NINE DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT WE HAD TO ACQUIRE. THREE OF THEM HAD BEEN CLOSED.

ONE OF THEM IS EXPECTED TO CLOSE IN MARCH.

FOUR OF THEM ARE ALREADY IN CONDEMNATION, AND WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OTHER PARCEL.

SO UNTIL THOSE OTHER PARCELS ARE ACQUIRED OR WE HAVE SOME SORT OF POSSESSION AND USE AGREEMENT IN PLACE, TXDOT WILL NOT GIVE US THEIR APPROVAL WHICH MEANS WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD TO BIDDING WHICH MEANS WE CANNOT GET TO CONSTRUCTION.

WE ARE ANTICIPATING SENDING FINAL PLANS TO TXDOT THIS MONTH AND PREPARING THE BID PACKAGE. AND WE ARE HOPING THAT ALL OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION STUFF WILL BE FINALIZED IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH SO IN MARCH WE CAN PUT THIS THING OUT FOR BIDDING AND START WORKING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR BEING DESIGN COMPLETE AND BIDS STARTING.

AND THEN STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THE THIRD QUARTER AND COMPLETING IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF 24.

>> ARE YOU PREFERRING QUESTIONS BEFORE OR AFTER THIS SLIDE?

>> WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF WE GO THROUGH THEM RATHER THAN HAVING TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH.

>> I WANT TO SAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS. BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE OF HOW BEHIND THE PROJECT IS, WHAT DOES IT COST OR LOOK LIKE TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION AT NIGHT ALSO INSTEAD OF JUST A 9:00 TO 5:00. HAVE WE ENTERTAINED ANYMORE ON THAT? I THINK THE FEAR FOR SOME PEOPLE IS WHEN THIS THING GOES UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AS BAD AS IT BACKS UP TODAY, THERE'S NO OUTLET FOR ANYBODY.

I GUESS YOU COULD CUT THROUGH OVER TO WHAT IS IT, 119?

>> SO GENERALLY SPEAKING WHENEVER THERE ARE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT CANNOT CLOSE DOWN THE INTERSECTION AND IT HAS TO BE LEFT OPEN FOR OPERATIONS, GENERALLY THERE IS A TRAFFIC PLAN AND A PHASING PLAN OF THEY BUILD ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, LEAVE THE OTHER SIDE OPEN. THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

AND THAT'S USUALLY UP TO THE CONTRACTOR.

WHAT WE CAN DO WHENEVER WE GO OUT TO BID IS TO PUT IN THE BID DOCUMENTS, THE CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT IS CHANGING THE CONSTRUCTION TIME TO BE DURING THE NIGHT.

THE DOWNSIDE IS IF IT'S DURING THE NIGHT, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION NOISE GOING ON IN THE HOURS WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEP. AND ANYBODY THAT'S EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE VERY DISPLEASED ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T

ASK THE QUESTION. >> ALSO YOU DO IT AT NIGHT, IT ONLY -- SO IF IT ONLY SAVES YOU A FEW WEEKS, NOT A BIG DEAL.

BUT IF IT CUTS IT IN HALF OR SOMETHING.

THEY CAN REALLY DO ALL OF THAT IN SIX MONTHS, YOU THINK?

>> IT WILL BE TIGHT. OBVIOUSLY WEATHER PERMITTING.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE WINTER IS GOING TO BE LIKE HERE IN TEXAS AS WE SAW THIS WEEK. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE THIRD 1660 PROJECT IS 1660 SOUTH OF 79.

AGAIN HNTB IS DESIGNING THIS ONE.

WE ARE 60% DESIGN COMPLETE. AND THEY ARE PREPARING THE 90% PLAN SET. WE HAVE ONE FEE PARCEL STILL IN

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WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT LANDOWNER AND WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S OUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THIS ONE HAS THE RAIL COMPONENT AND SO WE HAVE THE COMPLETED AGREEMENT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN.

THAT AFA HAS BEEN SENT OFF. AND SO WE HAVE SOME EXHIBITS THAT GO ALONG TO TXDOT TO BE FORWARDED ON TO UNION PACIFIC AND THE FEDERAL RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S GOING TO BE SENT OUT THIS WEEK.

AND FOLLOWING THAT AND GETTING THE SIGNED DOCUMENTS BACK FROM TXDOT, WE CAN MOVE TO THE FINAL TXDOT APPROVAL TO GO TO BIDDING.

AND SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING BIDDING STARTING FIRST QUARTER OF 24, STARTING CONSTRUCTION SHORTLY THEREAFTER IN THE SECOND QUARTER. AND THEN COMPLETION IN SECOND QUARTER OF 25. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP ON A FREQUENTLY REGULAR BASIS, I GUESS, IN HUTTO, IS THE CONCEPT OF QUIET ZONES. AND SO IN I THINK IT WAS 2016, I FOUND THE STUDY, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE ON WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THE ED SCHMIDT, CHRIS KELLY INTERSECTION IN ORDER FOR HUTTO TO ADOPT QUIET ZONES IN THESE INTERSECTIONS.

ALL OF THOSE SAFETY SUPPLEMENTAL MEASURES WERE IMPLEMENTED, SO THAT ONE IS READY FOR A QUIET ZONE.

HOWEVER SINCE THE JIM CAGE AND THE 1660 ARE SO CLOSE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO ONE INTERSECTION QUIET ZONE AND THE OTHER TWO NOT. IN THIS ONE, I HAVE CHECKED WITH HNTB AND SOME SAFETY SUPPLEMENTAL MEASURES WERE INCLUDED LIKE THE RAISED CURB AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SOME ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN.

SO IF QUIET ZONES WERE SOMETHING WE WANTED TO PROCEED WITH SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE, THERE WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THAT INTERSECTION TO GET THAT QUIET ZONE APPROVED AS WELL AS DOING THE JIM CAGE BECAUSE THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENTS THERE. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> HOW DISRUPTIVE WOULD THAT ADDITIONAL WORK BE? LIKE ARE WE RIPPING THINGS OUT AND CHANGING ANYTHING?

OR IS IT JUST ADDING SOMETHING? >> SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY SOME OF YOUR PAVEMENT STRUCTURES TO ADD THINGS LIKE THE SPECIAL GATES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE HAVE A GATE GOING IN THE DESIGN OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S NOT THE HINGE GATES LIKE YOU SEE AT

CHRIS KELLY. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD BE IMPROVING THESE INTERSECTIONS WITHOUT MAKING THEM FULLY READY?

>> I THINK THE THOUGHT FROM HNTB WAS THAT THE QUIET ZONES AREN'T NECESSARILY THE FUNCTION HERE, IT WAS MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUME. THEY INCLUDE SOME OF THEM THAT MADE SENSE LIKE RAISED CURBS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THEY DIDN'T

GO FULL ON WITH THE WHOLE THING. >> SO COUNCIL MEMBER, SEEING AS HOW I DID NINE QUIET ZONES FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON THAT HUTTO WOULD CONSIDER DOING THEM, GENERALLY YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THE INTERSECTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS SO EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE TYPICAL HINGE, DROP DOWN ARMS THAT COME ACROSS YOUR LANE OF TRAFFIC ON THIS SIDE OF THE TRACKS AND THEIR LANE OF TRAFFIC ON THE OTHER.

IF THE UPRR WHO CONTROLS THIS BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT YOU HAVE TO GET UPRR TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT.

IF THEY ACCEPT YOU BEING ABLE TO KEEP THAT PARTICULAR SET UP WITH THE ONE ARM ON ONE SIDE, THEN THAT'S WHERE THE CURB BUMP IN THE MIDDLE BECOMES NECESSARY. AND IT HAS TO BE FOR SO MANY FEET. I WANT TO SAY 50, BUT IT MAY BE MORE THAN THAT. SO IT'S GOT TO BE AT LEAST THAT FAR. THAT IS MEANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING AROUND THE DOWN ARM. THE NEXT STEP IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THAT'S THE DUAL ARMS ON EITHER SIDE.

SO INSTEAD OF ONE ARM DROPPING ACROSS ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC, BOTH ARMS DROP ACROSS BOTH LANES OF TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES.

WHENEVER WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING THOSE INSTALLATIONS, THOSE WERE RUNNING NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE INSTALLATION.

AND THAT WAS 2017- 2016 DOLLARS. SO IT COULD BE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE ANY OF THE SIGNALS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. IN THIS CASE, THE CURB BEING THERE PREPARES YOU FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THE FIRST OPTION. THE OTHER THING THAT COMPLICATES IS WHENEVER YOU HAVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AS WELL.

AND YOU DO HAVE THAT HERE BECAUSE OF THE SIDEWALK THAT'S OVER THERE. SO THAT THEN IN TURN WILL GENERALLY REQUIRE ITS OWN ARM TO DROP DOWN ACROSS THE PEDESTRIAN

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AND UPR SAYS WE WANT YOU TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY.

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAYOR PRO TEM, ALL OF THE TIMES WE'VE HAD THIS COME BEFORE US, HAS IT NOT ALWAYS BEEN THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO TURN HUTTO INTO A QUIET ZONE AREA WITH SOME OF

THESE IMPROVEMENTS? >> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO OBTAIN QUIET ZONE LEVEL, BUT WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE HAVING TO BE TAKEN OUT. WE WEREN'T GOING TO THROW AWAY MONEY WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO REQUIRE US TO REDO THINGS.

THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> HE'S SAYING WE'D HAVE TO TEAR

SOME OF IT UP, RIGHT? >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO TEAR OUT THE CENTER LINE CURB, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT FOR UPRR, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO INSTALL THE OTHER ARM ANYWAY. SO IF YOU PUT THE TURN, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THESE THINGS ARE CALLED, CURB DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT TERM. BUT LET'S JUST CALL IT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT.

BUT CENTER MEDIAN, IF YOU PUT IN A RAISED CENTER MEDIAN THAT'S RAISED HIGH ENOUGH IN ORDER TO MAKE IT AN OBSTACLE TO DRIVE OVER, THAT ALLOWS YOU THE OPTION TO ASK UPRR TO ACCEPT IT AS A QUIET ZONE. BUT ALSO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ZONES AS A WHOLE. SO YOU CAN'T DO LIKE A QUIET ZONE HERE AND THEN NOT AND THEN A QUIET ZONE THERE.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE ENCOUNTERED WHENEVER WE DID THE SAME PROBLEM IS WE HAD TO DO LIKE ALL NINE OF OUR CROSSINGS BASICALLY AT THE SAME TIME. AND WE WOULDN'T GET ANY QUIET ZONES UNTIL WE GOT ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION DONE AND THEN UPRR

WOULD ACCEPT THE QUIET ZONE. >> IF I MAY, I THINK WE HAD COMMENTS MADE ABOUT MAKING A QUIET ZONE.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE THAT ENJOY THE SOUND OF THE TRAIN.

I MISSED THE SOUND OF THE TRAIN YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE.

BUT IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE BALL IN MOTION, WE ALREADY HAVE THE DIRECTION GIVEN WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THESE PROJECTS.

THESE PROJECTS DON'T NEED TO BE DELAYED ANYMORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN DELAYED. AND WE NEED TO ALLEVIATE THE SITUATION AT THIS INTERSECTION ESPECIALLY AS FAST AS WE CAN IF IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE DELAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ENTIRE CHRIS KELLY, JIM CAGE, AND 1660 A QUIET ZONE, WE'RE JUST ADDING MORE ON TOP OF, IT'S GREAT TO SAY OKAY IN THE FUTURE WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE SO BEHIND, WE JUST NEED TO GET THE WORK DONE. WE NEED TO STOP BEING CLEVER AND

GET WORK DONE. >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF MAKING THE DECISION TO HAVE AN ENTIRE QUIET ZONE.

IT'S AS WE DO EACH INTERSECTION, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A QUIET ZONE ARE BASICALLY HEIGHTENED SAFETY.

AND SO EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MAKING IT A SAFER CROSSING SO THAT IT'S THEN SAFE FOR THE TRAIN TO GO THROUGH WITHOUT BLOWING THE HORN. THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A QUIET ZONE UNTIL WE DO ALL OF THEM.

BUT IF WE DO EACH INTERSECTION, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT AS SAFE A CROSSING AS WE CAN GET WITH THOSE STANDARDS BAKED INTO THE DESIGN EACH TIME. I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE DOING THIS ON WHAT'S COMING OUT NOW. SO I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.

>> WHAT I TOOK IT AS THAT HE WAS SAYING JUST LIKE IN CHRIS KELLY, THEY DIDN'T PUT IT DOWN ON EACH SIDE AND UNION PACIFIC -- BUT THEY'RE DOING THE RAISED MEDIANS.

UNTIL WE GET THE JIM CAGE DONE THEN WE SUBMIT TO ALL.

THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY YEAH, WE'LL ACCEPT EVERYTHING IF YOU ADD THOSE EXTRA RAILS AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE AS A CITY DO WE WANT TO PAY THAT MILLION DOLLARS TO PUT THAT EXTRA BAR.

IF THEY ACCEPT IT AND SAY NO, WHAT YOU HAVE IS ACCEPTABLE, THEN WE SAVED $1 MILLION BECAUSE WE JUST DID THIS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A QUIET ZONE WHEN THIS IS COMPLETED NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE JIM CAGE AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT PROJECT RIGHT NOW.

I SAY THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR NOW, AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN GET ALL OF THEM DONE, IF IT TURNS OUT THEY WON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THE LEVEL WE'VE DONE AND WE HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE TO GET TO THE LEVEL TO DO THAT.

IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN PAYING ALL OF THAT MONEY AND THEM SAYING OUR STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.

>> 100%, WE DON'T GET ANYTHING DONE WITH THE QUIET ZONE UNTIL JIM CAGE IS DONE FOR SURE. AND THAT'S NOT A PROJECT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE. BUT I GOT KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT ANSWERS SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS.

AND MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT UP. >> I HEAR WE'VE GOT TO HURRY UP AND GET IT DONE AND WE'VE GOT TO GET GOING.

THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE BEEN DESIGNING THIS FOR FOUR YEARS.

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WHETHER SOME PEOPLE LIKE THE TRAINS OR NOT, THE POINT WAS WE WERE MOVING TOWARDS QUIET ZONES. I DISAGREE WITH THE THOUGHT THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THEN GET CERTIFIED AS A QUIET ZONE. I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD GET IT DESIGNED AND THEN GET IT APPROVED THAT YES BASED ON THESE DESIGN PLANS WHEN YOU DO WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT TO DO TO JIM CAGE, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A QUIET ZONE.

WE'VE GOT A STUDY, SOMETHING TELLS ME WE NEED SOMETHING BALLPARK TO KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE AN INTERSECTION TO COME BACK A YEAR LATER AND GO WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT IDEA, LET'S PUT THE INTERSECTION BACK UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND MAYBE PUT DOWN ANOTHER GATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK IT'S A WASTE.

IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU DO IT RIGHT.

IF WE WANT TO HURRY UP AND GET STUFF DONE, LET'S HURRY UP AND DO STUFF. BUT HASTE MAKES WASTE.

IN FOUR YEARS THE PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET A QUIET ZONE, AND WE GO YOU'RE NOT GETTING A QUIET ZONE, THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS FOR AN ARM AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

I GUESS WE NEED TO COME CLEAN WITH THE PUBLIC, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE QUIET ZONES IN THE CITY OR WE'RE NOT.

AND IF WE'RE NOT UNTIL FURTHER ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WE SHOULD PROMINENTLY TELL PEOPLE THAT.

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS COMING, ME BEING ONE OF

THEM. >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY HAVE COMMENTS.

BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT EVEN I'M CONFUSED ABOUT. IT APPEARS TO ME AND WHAT I BELIEVE I WAS BRIEFED ON IS THAT THIS DOES INCLUDE THE RAISED MEDIAN WHICH WOULD BE A PREREQUISITE OF IT BEING ELIGIBLE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR A QUIET ZONE.

SO THAT ANSWERS COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON'S QUESTION ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT, LET'S PUT THE STUFF IN TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE QUIET ZONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TEAR OUT THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE.

THE POTENTIAL IS UP COULD SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE RAISED MEDIAN AS THE ENHANCED SAFETY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN THE EXTRA ARM. THAT'S TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, WHERE WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ENGINEERING DOLLARS AND GET ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS DESIGNED AND THROUGH THE UP PROCESS AND WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'LL ACCEPT AND WHAT THEY WON'T ACCEPT BECAUSE IT IS A CORRIDOR THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND THAT'S PART OF THE LAST PIECE FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT WE CAN'T ASK UP TO JUST DO A SINGLE CROSSING AS QUIET. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HERE AND JIM CAGE IS NOT THAT GREAT.

AND THE TRAINS HAVE TO BLOW THEIR HORNS FOR A GOOD DISTANCE BEFORE THEY GET TO THE CROSSINGS.

SO EVEN IF YOU TRIED TO MAKE THIS ONE QUIET, IT WOULDN'T BE QUIET, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE BLOWING GOING EAST WHENEVER THEY HIT JIM CAGE, RIGHT, ON THEIR WAY HERE.

AND WHENEVER THEY'RE COMING IN FROM TAYLOR, THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW AT THE OTHER CROSSINGS AT 132 AND EVERYWHERE ELSE BEFORE THEY GET THERE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DO IT AS A CORRIDOR. SO EVEN IF YOU PUT THE IMPROVEMENTS IN AND GET THE ACCEPTANCE THAT THIS COULD BE QUIET, UNTIL WE GET THE CORRIDOR DONE, UP WON'T STOP BLOWING THE HORN. AND JUST FYI, THE ENGINEERS ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLOW THE HORN EVEN IN A QUIET ZONE, SO SOMETIMES THEY ELECT TO DO IT ANYWAY.

THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. I THINK THIS INCLUDES THE RAISED MEDIAN WHICH IS ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF A NECESSITY TO BE ABLE TO EVEN ASK. AND THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS IF UP REJECTS THAT, SO ON THAT NOTE, WE'LL TAKE THAT AS THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY GIVEN DIRECTION AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET EACH ONE OF THESE INTERSECTIONS INSIDE THE CITY. WE MAY HAVE TO -- ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS OF EACH OF THESE CROSSINGS SO ONCE THEY'RE DONE IN TANDEM AND COMPLETION ALL THE WAY FROM ONE SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER, THEN WE CAN SUBMIT FOR THE UPRR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OR

ACCEPTANCE. >> IF I CAN, COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON, WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS I CAN'T SAY DEFINITIVELY THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO RIP ANYTHING OUT.

WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CONVEY IS THAT IT IS A POSSIBILITY EVEN WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT UPRR COULD COME BACK AND SAY THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, NOW WE HAVE TO GO RIP SOME STUFF OUT TO MAKE IT WHAT THEY WANT. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT

MISCOMMUNICATION. >> THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF THAT IS WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE APPLY, RIGHT?

>> T4 IS COUNTY ROAD 147. THIS ONE THE IPO EXECUTED IN OCTOBER. WE JUST GOT 30% PLANS THIS WEEK.

AND WE ARE COMMITTING TO HAVE THOSE REVIEWED AND SENT BACK TO

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AND SO PART OF THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TXDOT ROAD HERE THAT'S INVOLVED. THERE'S A CITY ROAD HERE.

THERE'S SCHOOL PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

SO WE WANT TO TALK TO A LOT OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. CURRENTLY THE DESIGN TEAM IS LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ONE BEING THE TRADITIONAL SIGNAL, THE OTHER ONE BEING A VERY WELL DESIGNED ROUNDABOUT TYPE SITUATION. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH OF THOSE. SO PART OF THAT PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY IS TO GET PUBLIC INPUT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN. I THINK WE WERE TARGETING SOME TIME IN MARCH FOR THAT. AND THEN BIDDING LATE THIS YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR DEPENDING ON HOW THE PUBLIC MEETINGS GO AND WHAT KIND OF CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE AND GETTING ALL OF THE TXDOT AGREEMENTS AND APPROVALS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

STARTING CONSTRUCTION FIRST QUARTER OF 24 AND BEING COMPLETE

BY THIRD QUARTER OF 25. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THIS ONE, SO WE'RE IMPROVING THE ROAD DOWN TO BRUSHY CREEK, AND AT THE TOP OF THE ROAD ROUGHLY A MILE OR LESS SOUTH OF THERE IS WHERE THE NEW SOUTHEAST LOOP PHASE ONE IS GOING TO CONNECT TO COUNTY ROAD 137. HAVE WE ENGAGED THE COUNTY AT ALL OR HAS THE COUNTY TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING THAT SECTION OF 137 FROM WHERE WE'RE STOPPING TO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I'M BEING TOLD WE HAVE. >> THEY HAVE DONE SOME IMPROVEMENT UP THERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S STILL ONGOING

FOR THE LOOP APPROACHING 137. >> WHAT I ANTICIPATE IS THAT SOUTHEAST LOOP IS GOING TO END AT 137 FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE PHASE TWO IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE THE THIRD PIECE THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING COUNTY ROAD 137 TO GET IN AND OUT OF HUTTO.

SO YOU'VE GOT THIS NICE IMPROVED ROAD FROM 1660 TO BRUSHY CREEK AND THEN NOT IMPROVED TO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP AND THEN IMPROVED AGAIN. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO AT LEAST ENGAGE TO THE COUNTY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BUMPING THIS ONE UP IN THEIR PRIORITY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. >> I'M BEING TOLD THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

>> OKAY. >> T5 PHASE TWO, ACTUALLY THE IPO FOR THIS DESIGN EFFORT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION IS 100% COMPLETE. WHAT'S NEXT ON THIS ONE OBVIOUSLY IS THE AWARD OF THE IPO TONIGHT AND THEN STARTING PRELIMINARY DESIGN, IN THAT SCHEMATIC AND IT'S A LOT SMALLER THAN IT IS ON MY PAGE. BUT THE RED LINE IS WHAT WE COMPLETED WITH PHASE ONE AND THE BLUE LINES ARE WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR PHASE TWO AND JUST SO EVERYBODY IS KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THE CONCEPT HERE, THE CONCEPT WAS GET CONNECTION TO THE PARK AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

AND SO THAT WAS PHASE ONE, AND THEN FROM THAT CONNECTION, CONNECT TO ALL OF THE EASTERN SUBDIVISIONS SO THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A CONTINUITY OF CONNECTIONS TO THE PARK.

AND SO WE LAID OUT PHASE TWO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY AS WELL AS WITHIN THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE CIP. DESIGN BEGINS THIS QUARTER AND WE'LL BE DONE BY THE NEXT QUARTER, BIDDING LATE THIS YEAR.

CONSTRUCTION STARTS LATE THIS YEAR AND WILL BE COMPLETE THIS

YEAR. >> SO PHASE ONE, IS IT DONE OUT IN THE FIELD THE DESIGN, OR DID SOMEONE DESIGN THAT AHEAD OF

TIME? >> IT WAS DESIGNED AHEAD OF

TIME. >> HAS THAT BEEN INSPECTED FOR FOLLOWING THE TAS STANDARDS? THE REASON I SAY THIS, I DID THIS RIDE ALONG AND WE DROVE DOWN THROUGH THAT, AND IT'S THE WILDEST SIDEWALK I'VE EVER SEEN IN THAT IT'S, MOST SIDEWALKS ARE LIKE STRAIGHT ON THE STREET AND IT KIND OF SEEMED LIKE IT WENT UP AND DOWN, ACTUALLY HAD LIKE LITTLE TEPEE, AND I CAN IMAGINE THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AN IRRIGATION LINE OR WASTEWATER

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AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS DID WE EVER DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS SPEC OF CONCRETE, ARE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OLD SPEC OR ARE WE ADJUSTING IT?

>> THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION AMONGST THE STAFF ON THE SIDEWALK SPECIFICATIONS. I DON'T THINK THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO CHANGE TOO DRAMATICALLY.

BUT THEY DID TAKE A LOOK AT MATCHING NOT JUST WHAT GEORGETOWN AND ROUND ROCK ARE DOING, BUT ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF AUSTIN. AS FAR AS THE ADA GOES, IT LOOKS LIKE WADE IS WHISPERING SOMETHING IN MATT'S EAR, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO HAVE TO MEET ADA COMPLIANCE. WE CAN'T BUILD NEW STUFF THAT DOESN'T. SO THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.

SO WHENEVER YOU BUILD SOMETHING NEW AND YOU GO THROUGH PART OF THE INSPECTION PROCESS THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTORS ARE DOING, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE ITEMS. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE RAMPS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE FALLS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE DEGREE OF INCLINE AND DECLINE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE MEANDERING, THAT'S THE SYMPTOM OF BUILDING A SIDEWALK AFTER THE FACT INSTEAD OF DESIGNING A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A SIDEWALK IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WHEN YOU SEE THE MEANDERING, THEY'RE TYPICALLY MEANDERING AROUND AND I'M JUST GUESSING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE, MANHOLES, VALVES, OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE RELATIVELY LARGE THAT AREN'T JUST A SMALL CONCRETE CUT WHERE THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO TURN A VALVE. SO IT'S USUALLY MANHOLES OR STORM WATER INLETS IF THEY HAVE THOSE, AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM MEANDER AROUND.

THE LAST THING WOULD BE SOME SORT OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY THAT MIGHT BE IN THE WAY AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST GOING FORWARD TO HAVE COMPLETE STREET DESIGNS THAT INCLUDE ALL OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, THE SIDEWALKS, THE STREET TREES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING SO WE'RE NOT GOING IN AND TRYING TO RETROFIT SOMETHING IN THAT IT WASN'T PLANNED FOR OR DESIGNED

FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> SO IS THIS PHASE GOING TO BE REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED BY SOME THIRD PARTY?

>> I WAS JUST TOLD WE DID HAVE A TAS INSPECTION AND WE DO MEET TAS INSPECTIONS. OBVIOUSLY THE DRIVEWAY RAMPS WERE INSPECTED AS WELL, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY STEEP IN SOME PLACES, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TOLD.

>> AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT HE MEANS IS THE DRIVEWAYS WERE ALREADY INSTALLED AND THEN YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK COMING ACROSS AND THEN THOSE TWO THINGS ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CAMERAS CAN EVEN SEE ME.

IF THE DRIVEWAY GOES LIKE THIS AND THE SIDEWALK IS FLAT AND IT HITS THAT DRIVEWAY, WELL THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

AND THAT'S WHERE USUALLY THE DRIVEWAYS ARE DESIGNED WHEN SIDEWALKS ARE A PART OF THIS TO HAVE THE RIGHT PITCH SO THAT WAY THE SIDEWALK CAN CONVEY ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY WITHOUT THERE BEING A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. BUT THESE DRIVEWAYS WERE CONSIDERABLY STEEPER IN SOME CASES.

SO EVERY TIME THAT THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THAT TOUCHED A DRIVEWAY, IN SOME INSTANCES THEY HAD TO GO AND CUT THE DRIVEWAY BACK AND RELAY THE DRIVEWAY SO IT WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THE ADA

REQUIREMENTS. >> THAT'S PART OF WHAT WENT INTO CHOOSING WHICH SIDE OF THE STREET WAS DONE.

SO SIDEWALKS ARE ONLY DONE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND SO WITH THE DESIGN TEAM ESSENTIALLY CHOSE THE SIDE THAT HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DRIVEWAYS THAT NEEDED THE APRONS REDONE AND KIND OF THE LEAST AMOUNT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH REDOING ALL OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS AND JUST OF COURSE EASE OF ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHY THAT SIDE OF THE STREET WAS CHOSEN AS MORE OF A COST-SAVING MECHANISM.

>> T6 IS THE OVERPASS AT US-79. THERE IS NO CONSULTANT LISTED UP HERE YET BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT STARTED THE DESIGN ON THIS ONE.

THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED AS ALIGNMENTS HAVE SHIFTED AROUND.

PART OF THAT BEING THE OLD PERFECT GAME SITE.

PART OF THAT BEING STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE MEGA SITE.

PART OF THAT BEING OTHER CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. WE ARE TARGETING BRINGING THIS ONE TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD BY MARCH 16TH.

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AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS YET TO BE KIND OF FLESHED OUT AS WE FINALIZE THE IPO. T7 IS THE MEGA SITE EAST/WEST ARTERIAL. AND WE ARE AT 30% COMPLETE.

WE HAVE THE 30% PLANS UP AND ARE REVIEWING THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL GET THE COMMENTS BACK AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO START. THEY ARE WORKING ON COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPMENT PLANS. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE EDC TEAM AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING TO PLAY OUT AND HAVE SOME MEETINGS SET UP WITH BOB AND HIS TEAM SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS OUT THERE.

DESIGN STARTED -- I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGN STARTING THIRD QUARTER OF 22. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY MAYBE THE THIRD QUARTER OF 23. BIDDING IN FOURTH QUARTER 23.

AND THEN CONSTRUCTION STARTING AND WILL BE DONE BY THIRD

QUARTER OF 25. >> I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD TAKE ALMOST TWO YEARS TO BUILD THAT SMALL SECTION OF A ROAD THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION, YOU HAVE NO TRAFFIC ON IT. I QUESTION THOSE TIMELINES, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME AT ALL.

>> I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT. PART OF BUILDING A 4 LANE ROAD DIVIDED, RELOCATED UTILITIES, EXTRA WIDE SIDEWALKS, AND THE PROCESS TO DESIGN IT IS LIKE A FRACTION OF WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED AND THEN TO BUILD IT, IT'S MONTHS.

IT'S JUST RAW LAND OUT THERE. SO I'M WITH YOU, WHOEVER IS GOING TO DESIGN IT OR BUILD IT NEEDS TO JUST BUILD THE ROAD LIKE THEY BUILT LIVE OAK AND MAKE SURE IT ALIGNS UP.

>> BECAUSE FISCAL YEAR Q3 OF 25, THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE TIME.

THE ENTIRE SAMSUNG PLANT WILL BE BUILT AND OPERATIONAL BEFORE THIS ROAD IS BUILT. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

AS PART OF WHOEVER YOU GET FOR BID AND READY TO GO, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT PULLED IN IF THIS IS THE ACCURATE TIME.

>> IT'S GOT TO BE MORE COMPLEX BUILDING THAT SAMSUNG COMPUTER CHIP PLANT. I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF BEATING UP ON IT. BUT I THINK THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN HUTTO, IT WILL TAKE 4 OR 5 YEARS TO DO SOMETHING THAT OTHER CITIES CAN KNOCK OUT IN SIX MONTHS.

THERE'S NO RIGHT-OF-WAY TO GET IN OUR WAY, NO UTILITY

RELOCATES. >> IS THIS CONSIDERED THE SPINE ROAD THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT?

>> I'VE JOTTED DOWN A NOTE, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN REFINE THE

SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT UPDATE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THAT COULD BE DUE TO LACK OF FUNDING TOO.

BECAUSE WHEN WE DID OUR CIP THIS PAST BUDGET CYCLE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE ALL AGREED ON WAS NOT THE FULL FUNDING OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE BETWEEN DESIGN AND THE PROCESS DESIGN, BID, STARTING CONSTRUCTION, COMPLETION, ALL OF THE PROCESS THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH IS THAT THESE PROJECTS WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED.

AND SO NOW THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND FUND THAT NEXT THING SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A DELAY POTENTIALLY IN SOME OF THIS SO YOU MAY SEE THE DELAY BECAUSE OF

THAT. >> I'M GOING TO DISAGREE BECAUSE WHEN IT SAYS CONSTRUCTION START CURRENT YEAR 23 QUARTER FOUR, I'M THINKING THAT MUST MEAN LIKE OCTOBER AND SO IF YOU'RE STARTING IT, THE WAY I READ THIS LITERALLY IS WE'RE STARTING BY OCTOBER 1ST AND COMPLETION AND IF THERE'S A FUNDING ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THERE, BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CONSTRUCTION START IN CURRENT YEAR 23, WE'D SAY WHATEVER FISCAL YEAR 24, Q2 OR SOMETHING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M

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SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FUNDING, WE ACTUALLY JUST FUNDED IT, I

THINK. >> YEAH, WE DID THE 12 MILLION.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST -- I BROUGHT IT UP, IT'S A SPINE ROAD AND IT'S A SPINE ROAD THAT WE JUST WENT INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH. AND GEORGE, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE SITTING UP HERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE CITY IN THIS FASHION. BUT THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF IT WAS A SPINE ROAD BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF TAKING OUT DOING A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE EDC TO PUT THIS ROAD IN BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE MARKETING AND SELLING THIS LAND. THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY THAT'S HIGHER FOR THE CITY. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. AND WE'RE LOSING REVENUE AND WE'RE LOSING PROSPECTS BECAUSE THIS ROAD ISN'T THERE.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION AND, MATT, I'M SORRY IF IT FEELS LIKE I'M COMING OFTEN HOT ON YOU.

IT'S NOT YOU. I GET FRUSTRATED WHEN I HEAR THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS STILL IN HERE LIKE THIS WHEN WE ALREADY PRIORITIZED FUNDS AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME VOTES TONIGHT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT MORE FUNDING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE BACK IN THE BUDGET SEASON TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS ROAD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE UP IN PRIORITY AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T GIVE MORE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON IT. BUT I'M JUST, I'M GOOD NOW SO

THANK YOU. >> MATT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. DOES THIS ACTUALLY REACH ALL THE

WAY TO THE TITAN PROPERTY? >> YES.

>> BECAUSE IN OUR ORIGINAL SCHEMATIC WE WERE REPRESENTED WITH IN THE ACTUAL SPINE ROAD AND I CAN SHARE WITH YOU LATER WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IMAGE WISE OR SHARE WITH EVERYBODY, IT'S

JUST MUCH, MUCH LONGER. >> THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE --

>> RIGHT, BUT AS FAR AS DESIGN AND SCOPE AND WHAT WE WERE PLANNING AND THE PICTURE AND THE SCHEMATIC IS ONLY I WOULD GUESSTIMATE HALF OF WHAT'S BEING SHOWN.

SO IF WE'RE ONLY GETTING HALF OF THE AMOUNT AND WE'RE ALLOTTING THE SAME NUMBER OF DOLLARS, THAT'S A PROBLEM IN MY MIND AS WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING IS

GOING ON WITH THE SCHEMATICS. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS MAP, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SCHEMATICS OR ANYTHING TO SHOW YOU, WE JUST PULLED THIS FROM THE ORIGINAL CIP PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE LAST SUMMER. SO THAT GIS THAT WE HAD UP THERE MAY NOT BE THE LATEST AND GREATEST.

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. BUT I MEAN IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE AND THIS WAS JULY OF 20 IS THE PRINT DATE.

SO AGAIN I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU FROM THAT CIP

PRESENTATION. >> I'LL MAKE SURE THAT ON THE NEXT ONE, WE GET THIS UPDATED SO YOU CAN SEE A MORE UP TO DATE

SCHEMATIC. >> YEAH, SINCE THE 30% DESIGN IS COMPLETED, YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM PROVIDE YOU WITH A THUMBNAIL.

>> T9 IS LIVE OAK STREET, THAT'S THE PAVEMENT RECONSTRUCTION.

SO THE CURB DESIGN HAS BEEN DONE, THE WATER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT DESIGN HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETED.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE LANDSCAPE OR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES OR ANY OF THE AESTHETIC TYPE THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT THROUGH LIVE OAK THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE HEART OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AREAS. AND SO WE HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO UPDATE THEIR PLANS.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK I THINK AS LONG AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO TALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND TALK THROUGH THE TIMELINES AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO REVISE THEIR PLANS AND WORK WITH US.

WE'RE SHOOTING FOR BRINGING THAT BACK FOR AWARD IN MARCH.

SO THEN THEORETICALLY, WE COULD RESTART THE DESIGN WOULD HAPPEN IN PROBABLY THE SECOND QUARTER. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD

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WE COULD GET THOSE PLANS. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE ATMOS LINE RELOCATION. THEIR BIG PUSHBACK AS I RECALL WAS THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO THIS UNTIL THEY KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BE THROUGH. NOW THAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE DELAYED ARE THEY PHASING OUT THE RELOCATION OF THEIR LINES?

>> I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND THE ANSWER IS YES FOR TWO DIFFERENT REASONS OTHER THAN MAYBE WHAT YOU THINK. THE ATMOS RELOCATION THAT THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH WAS BASED OFF OF THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE JUST GOING TO MILL AND OVERLAY THE ROAD. BUT SINCE WE'RE GOING BACK TO DOING A FULL STREET DESIGN AND RECONSTRUCTION, THOSE LINES WILL NOT GO INTO THE SAME LOCATION. SO WE NEED THEM TO STOP AND THEN THE DESIGN NEEDS TO BE FINALIZED, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR ASSIGNMENT. AND THEN THEY NEED TO DO THEIR

RELOCATION. >> SO YOU'RE TELLING US BECAUSE WE JUST WANTED TO GET THE ROAD THROUGH WITH A QUICK MILL OVERLAY, THAT WAS GOING TO CAUSE ATMOS TO PUT THE LINE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPOT SO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE WENT TO REBUILD THE ROAD LIKE ORIGINALLY PLANNED, THEY

HAVE TO RELOCATE THE LINE? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> JEEZ, NO WONDER NOTHING GETS DONE.

I WOULD THINK YOU MOVE IT TO THE RIGHT SPOT TO BEGIN WITH.

>> THE RIGHT SPOT, THAT'S THE TRICKY PART BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, OTHER THAN THE GAS. MAYBE YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, IF YOU HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER THAT ISN'T THERE TODAY THAT MAYBE WILL BE THERE IN THE FUTURE, THEN YOU HAVE THAT TO DEAL WITH. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO KIND OF TO YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT DESIGNING THE INTERSECTIONS FOR THE QUIET CROSSINGS AHEAD OF TIME, YOU SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING FOR YOUR ROADS WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANY TYPE OF RELOCATIONS.

FOR THAT VERY REASON BECAUSE YOU NEED THE FULL DESIGN SO YOU HAVE ASSIGNMENTS FOR ELECTRICITY UNDERGROUND, FOR CABLE UNDERGROUND, FOR FIBER UNDERGROUND, FOR GAS UNDERGROUND, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR ASSIGNMENT IS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING. IF NOT, THEN WHAT ATMOS WILL DO IS JUST WORK WITHIN THE CITY'S APPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY OR EASEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE PUES USUALLY.

IN A PUE, ATMOS OR ANY UTILITY CAN GO WHEREVER THEY WANT WITHOUT AN ASSIGNMENT. THAT'S WHY YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL ASSIGNMENTS OF UTILITIES WITH AN IDEA OF A FULL BUILD OUT OF EACH OF YOUR SEGMENTS.

>> SO IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE GAS LINE BEING RELOCATED.

>> IT DID. IT HAD IT I THINK ON THE

OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. >> SEE WHAT I'M CONFUSED, IF THEY ALREADY DESIGNED IT FOR THE LINE TO BE PUT IN A CERTAIN SPOT WITH THE FULL BUILD OUT, THEN WHY WOULD ATMOS NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE TO PUT THEIR LINE AT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE PLANS TO

SAY HEY WE'RE GOING TO -- >> IT'S BECAUSE IT DIDN'T INCLUDE UNDERGROUND STORM DRAINAGE, AND WHEN YOU ADD IN STORM DRAINAGE, THAT THEN CHANGES THINGS.

SO THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE THE DITCHES OPEN IN MOST OF THE OLD TOWN AREA WHICH THEN DOESN'T REQUIRE THE STORM DRAINAGE TO BE BUILT. AND THEN THE GAS LINE CAN BE IN THAT SEGMENT. SO THAT'S WHY.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO UNDERGROUND STORM DRAINS BUT NOT THE UNDERGROUND ELECTRICITY.

THE POWER POLES WERE GOING TO REMAIN, AND THEY WERE INSTRUCTED BY THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND THEY SAID WE DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT WE'LL DO WHAT YOU TELL US TO DO. AND SO THEY DID IT THAT WAY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE COMING BACK AND TELLING THEM IT NEEDS TO BE DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

>> BUT THE MILL AND OVERLAY YOU DON'T HAVE THE STORM DRAINS --

>> THIS IS BEFORE THAT. ATMOS IS GOING THE CHEAPEST ROUTE FOR ATMOS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM AN ASSIGNMENT AND SAY PUT YOUR LINE HERE, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE. THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER I CAN

GIVE YOU ON THAT. >> IN ALL FAIRNESS, COUNCIL HAS CHANGED THEIR MINDS FOUR TIMES ON THIS.

IT WAS FULL BUILD OUT, THEN IT WAS JUST MILL AND OVERLAY, THEN IT WAS WE'LL JUST DO THE ROADS WITHOUT ALL OF THE SIDES AND PARKING AND SIDEWALKS, NOW WE'RE GOING BACK AGAIN SAYING THAT WE WANT THE SCOPE TO NOW INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE SCOPE HAS BEEN CHANGED ON HIGHLAND LANE ABOUT FOUR TIMES I'D SAY AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, AT LEAST THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF THIS BACKGROUND AND THIS INFORMATION.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT AT ALL. I REMEMBER A COMPLETE BUILD OUT AND THE ROAD IS TORN UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TERRIBLE SO WE SAID OKAY LOOK, IF WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME OF THESE UTILITIES TO BE RELOCATED, CAN YOU JUST MILL AND OVERLAY TO GET IT TO WHERE PEOPLE DON'T LOSE THEIR SHOCKS AND THINGS ON THEIR

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JUST HAVE TO PLAN BETTER. >> WE HAVE TO PLAN AND WE HAVE TO CONTROL THE ASSIGNMENTS OF THE UTILITIES.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM OF HAVING PUES WHICH ARE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS OR HAVING A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITHOUT A PERMIT REQUIREMENT. SO IF YOU HAVE A UTILITY COMPANY THAT IT HAS PUES, THEY'RE ALLOWED FIRST IN AND CAN GO WHEREVER THEY WANT TO. ALL PUBLIC UTILITIES OWN THAT EASEMENT. FIRST IN CAN GO RIGHT TO THE MIDDLE OR THE SIDE OR WHATEVER ELSE.

IF YOU HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WHERE THEY'RE UTILIZING YOUR EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY AND YOU DON'T REQUIRE PERMITS, THEN THEY CAN STILL DO EFFECTIVELY THE SAME THING. THEY CAN GO IN WHEREVER THEY WANT TO. SO AS WE GET MORE SOPHISTICATED, WE'LL GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO START PERMITTING THESE THINGS.

BECAUSE THE GAS COMPANIES, THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES, ALL OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY COMPANIES, WHENEVER YOU MAKE THEM MOVE, IT'S ON YOUR DIME GENERALLY SPEAKING.

SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY INTERESTED OR CARE IF THEY'RE IN THE BEST PLACE FOR FOREVER BECAUSE IF YOU NEED THEM TO MOVE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THEM TO MOVE AGAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY I HOPE AS WE GET MORE SOPHISTICATED WE START TO HANDLE THE PERMITTING FOR THESE ITEMS SO THAT WAY WE CAN GUARANTEE ASSIGNMENTS AND HAVE IT CONTROLLED.

>> IT'S GOOD TO NOTE ON THAT ONE AS WELL THAT THIS WAS NOT TO BE PAID OUT OF THE BOND, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THE DOLLARS APPROPRIATED, WE ONLY HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS. AND I EVEN HAVE WRITTEN NOT WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED, NO SIDEWALKS, NO DRAINAGE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT REALISTICALLY WE BUDGETED ONLY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE DRAINAGE. IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE MATH ON THAT ONE, AGAIN I THINK THAT THAT HAS BEEN A MISDIRECTION FROM COUNCIL OR AT LEAST A CHANGE OF DIRECTION IF ANYTHING JUST WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAD AND WHAT WE WERE ALLOTTING AND WE SAID THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE BOND THAT WE WERE PAYING THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND AS WELL.

>> WE'VE HAD OTHER THINGS COME UP.

>> OH YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING -- >> BUT WHAT I THINK IS A MILLION IS GOOD ENOUGH TO GET THE DESIGN RESTARTED.

WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT ARE WE ASKING THEM ON THAT DESIGN.

IT'S CHANGED. >> THAT ITEM WILL COME BACK WHENEVER WE'RE READY TO DO THE SCOPE, WHEN WE'RE READY TO AWARD IT AND Y'ALL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THIS IS JUST MEANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHERE WE'RE AT. YOU'RE AT 9 OF 37 PROJECTS JUST

FYI. >> THE DESIGN NEVER CHANGED.

THE SCHEDULING OF WHAT WE NEED DONE HAS CHANGED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IF YOU CAN'T GET THE WHOLE ROAD DONE TODAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE UTILITIES RELOCATED LIKE THE WATER LINE THEN MILL AND OVERLAY SO PEOPLE DON'T LOSE THEIR CAR, THE END RESULT IS STILL TO HAVE CURBS AND GUTTERS SO NONE OF

THIS EVER CHANGED. >> I DISAGREE, WE EVEN HAD PEOPLE FROM LIVE OAK COME AND SAY THAT NOW THAT WE'RE RELOOKING AT IT, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN AN ARGUMENT AMONGST THOSE PEOPLE OF DO THEY WANT TO HAVE THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL BOND PACKAGE.

THEREFORE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND WE WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY, DOING IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME VERSUS WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON LIVE OAK, I WOULD ARGUE IT HAS HAD TO CHANGE BECAUSE THE CHECKBOOK HAS HAD TO

CHANGE THE LAST THREE YEARS. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY.

SO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING BONDS AND SELLING BONDS FOR ALL OF THESE CIP PROJECTS BACK IN BUDGET SEASON, ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS FOR WHY WE NEEDED TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO WAS SO THAT WE COULD SHOW PEOPLE WE HAD THE MONEY IN HAND, WE'RE SERIOUS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.

SO IF I WERE ATMOS AND THE CITY GOES TO THEM SAYING WE HAVE THIS PROJECT, WE NEED YOU TO MOVE YOUR LINES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE DESIGN AND DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST THEIR MONEY TO HELP US WHEN WE'RE NOT INVESTING OUR OWN MONEY. I DON'T BELIEVE GOING IN AND NOT DOING THE FULL DRAINAGE IN OLD TOWN, BECAUSE LIVE OAK IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST IN ALL OF IT. BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE

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WE HAVE $1 MILLION WHICH ISN'T GOING TO TAKE US VERY FAR.

SO I MEAN JUST CLARIFYING, AM I UNDERSTANDING IT RIGHT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND TO SAY HEY WE NEED YOU TO MOVE THESE LINES AND THIS IS WHERE WE NEED YOU TO MOVE THEM TO, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK TO SAY HEY WE'RE READY TO GO, ARE YOU READY TO GO?

CAN YOU HELP US? >> YEAH, ONCE ATMOS KNOWS THAT WE'RE READY TO GO ON THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE AGREED TO AS A BODY, AS Y'ALL HAVE AGREED TO, NOT ME, BUT Y'ALL HAVE AGREED TO AS A BODY AND YOU'VE ELECTED TO FUND AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THEN ATMOS WILL GO AND RELOCATE THEIR LINES.

THEY WERE ABOUT TO RELOCATE THEIR LINES BASED OFF THE OF THE MILL AND OVERLAY ONLY AND NOT BASED ALL OF THE FULL DESIGN.

THAT'S WHAT I PUT A STOP TO UNTIL THIS GETS DONE AND WE KNOW WHAT THE REAL ASSIGNMENT NEEDS TO BE.

TO THE MAYOR'S POINT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE BEING ADDED THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

LIGHTING WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE TO POINT TO. I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR THEM TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO UNDERGROUND THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION TO BE CONSIDERED. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER OTHER TIMES THAT ARE TYPICALLY DONE IN A STREETSCAPE THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED ORIGINALLY THAT WE'RE ASKING TO ADD, AND THAT'S THE EXTRA EFFORT THAT KYLE WILL BE BRINGING TO US SHORTLY.

>> AND ONE THING THEN WE CAN MOVE ON BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK. BUT THE OTHER THING WAS I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE WANTED TO GET THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF WE DID THE ON STREET PARKING VERSUS NOT AND THEY WOULD LET US KNOW IN THE DESIGN SO WE COULD DECIDE IF WE WANTED ON STREET PARKING OR NOT TOO. I REMEMBER THAT AS BEING PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE FALL. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE BECAUSE FIRST WE'VE GOT TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO ENGAGE WITH US TO REDO THAT DESIGN AND THEN WE CAN GIVE THAT DIRECTION AT A

FUTURE MEETING. >> THE ED SCHMIDT SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE SAFETY ASSESSMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED. WE'LL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL TO AWARD THE SIGNAL WARRANT STUDY AND TRAFFIC MODELING AND PRELIMINARY DESIGN. WE PLAN ON BRINGING THAT BACK WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. I THINK I'M TRYING TO PUSH FOR FEBRUARY 16TH, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT SO IT MAY BE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH BEFORE I GET THAT IPO BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. SO ALL OF THE SCHEDULING IS SORT OF STILL UP IN THE AIR. T13 IS THE CR 199 REPAIRS.

AND JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE, WE ARE PREPARING AN IPO RIGHT NOW TO BRING TO YOU FOR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS.

THE THOUGHT BEING ON THIS ONE THAT MORE THAN LIKELY WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS DONE THROUGH ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS AND THEN STAFF WILL TAKE OVER GETTING IT TO BID AND CONSTRUCTION. STAFF IS NOT GOING TO CONSTRUCT IT JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR, JUST GET IT TO BID AND THEN GET THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED BY A CONTRACTOR.

AND SO ANTICIPATING DESIGN ON THIS ONE SECOND QUARTER THIS YEAR, BIDDING IT THIRD QUARTER AND GETTING IT CONSTRUCTED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. FRAME SWITCH PUMP STATION IS W1 BEING DONE BY DCS. WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME PREPURCHASE ON THE GENERATOR AND THE PUMPS.

AND WE ARE ABOUT 90% TO 95% DONE WITH PS&E AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING PUTTING THIS OUT FOR BIDS. I BELIEVE THE TARGET RIGHT NOW IS FEBRUARY 12TH FOR OUR INITIAL BID LAUNCH.

AND THEN TRYING TO AWARD IT IN THE SECOND QUARTER, GET CONSTRUCTION GOING, AND GET CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE THIRD QUARTER OF 24. THE PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS, THIS ONE IS DESIGN COMPLETE. BIDS WERE OPENED ON JANUARY 11TH. PRECONSTRUCTION WAS HELD ON 126.

CONTRACTOR HAS ALREADY STARTED SENDING SUBMITTALS OVER AND WE ARE PREPARING FOR THEM TO GET MOBILIZATION AND GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE ANTICIPATING CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETE BY THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

>> CAN WE JUST GO BACK ONE SLIDE ONE SECOND I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IS THERE STILL AN ANTICIPATION, IS THAT TYPICAL IT SHOULD TAKE

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CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS? >> YES, SIR.

SO I WAS MADE AWARE THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR CHARTS, SO I'M WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER A BIG CIP CHART THAT HAS ALL OF THE PROJECTS AND WHAT OUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINES ARE SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. BUT BIG THING ON THESE PUMP STATIONS IS THERE ARE SOME VERY LONG LEAD ITEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO CALL THE MANUFACTURERS AND TRY TO REACH OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE IF WE CAN SHORTEN THOSE THINGS AND THAT'S WHY ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR WE DID SOME PREPURCHASING ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS WHILE WE STILL PUSHED FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE DESIGN. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A CALL TODAY WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS ARE COMING UP TO BE EVEN LONGER LEAD THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT.

SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SQUEEZE THESE SCHEDULES DOWN.

I'VE HAD CALLS ALMOST DAILY SINCE I'VE GOTTEN HERE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN COMPRESS SOME OF THESE SCHEDULES AND PLAY THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT WITH ALL OF THESE MANUFACTURERS AND

SUPPLY ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

FRAME SWITCH, SO THIS ONE IS FOLLOWING THE SAME PATH AS THE FRAME SWITCH PUMP STATIONS. THIS IS FOR THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND SO THIS ONE IS BEING DONE BY FREESE AND NICHOLS.

IT'S 90% TO 95% DONE WITH DESIGN.

WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID, WE ANTICIPATE FEBRUARY 12TH TO BE THE FIRST BID ANNOUNCEMENT AND WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THAT AWARDED. WE'RE TRYING TO COMPRESS THE BIDDING SCHEDULE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET BIDS OPENED AND READY FOR AWARD BY THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH.

BUT THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO IT WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING WE BRING THIS BACK TO YOU FOR AN AWARD. W4 IS THE JONAH ORIGINALLY IN THE CIP IT WAS CALLED THE JONAH EMERGENCY CONNECT.

FREESE & NICHOLS IS DOING THIS. THE REASON I SAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED THAT IS BECAUSE THE WAY THE WATER MASTER PLAN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED IN THE SUMMER WAS UPDATED IS THAT IT'S NO LONGER CONSIDERED REALLY AN EMERGENCY CONNECT.

IN FACT NOW THE WAY THE PROJECT WAS AWARDED FOR DESIGN IS IT'S ACTUALLY A 16 INCH SUPPLY LINE INSTEAD OF AN EIGHT INCH SO IT'S MORE OF A SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT. IT'S ABOUT 30% DESIGNED APPROXIMATELY. SKPLT BIG TH -- AND THE BIG THI, AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN A MINUTE, BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL CIP THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE BECAUSE IT WAS BASED BEFORE THE WATER MASTER PLAN.

SO W5 WE'LL GET TO IN A SECOND AND W7 WE'LL GET TO SHORTLY THEREAFTER MOST LIKELY WILL NO LONGER BE NEEDED BECAUSE THIS ONE ENCOMPASSES ALL THREE PROJECTS.

SO W5 I JUST HINTED AT, THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY INCORPORATED INTO W4. AND W7 AGAIN INCORPORATED INTO

W4. >> SO OF THE MONEY THAT WE ANTICIPATED SPENDING ON THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW BEING ABSORBED BY W4, HOW MUCH DO WE ANTICIPATE SAVING?

>> THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHEN WE BRING THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS.

>> IF WE COULD GET THAT NUMBER SOMETIME IT WOULD BE NICE TO

SEE. >> AND KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE W4 GREW A LITTLE BIT, THAT BUDGET WILL INCREASE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU JUST GET TO SAVE ALL OF THE MONEY FROM W5.

SOME OF IT WILL HAVE TO SHIFT OVER.

W6 IS THE COUNTY ROAD 132 12 INCH AND 30 INCH.

30% COMPLETE. WE'VE GIVEN FEEDBACK TO THE CONSULTANT AND THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS 60% DESIGN.

WE'RE THINKING BID IT LATE THIS YEAR FOURTH QUARTER, START CONSTRUCTION, AND FINISH CONSTRUCTION BY THE THIRD

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AND ONCE WE KNOW THAT, WE CAN START WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING AN IPO TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESIGN THAT INTERCONNECTION. W9 THE WATER MASTER PLAN, THAT ONE WAS COMPLETED. I REFERENCED IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'M KIND OF SPEEDING UP HERE A LITTLE BIT JUST TO SAVE YOU GUYS THE TROUBLE OF LISTENING TO ME. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS JUST

FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. >> I THINK ONCE THE PUBLIC SEES THE ISSUES WITH THE ONES IN THE GROUND IT SEEMS LIKE FOR WHATEVER REASON WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FUND THEM, WE'RE MOVING RIGHT

ALONG. >> YES, SIR.

W10 IS THE MEGA SITE PHASE ONE WATER LINES.

THIS ONE IS KIND OF GOING PARALLEL WITH THE W6 THAT I MENTIONED WHILE AGO AND W16 WHICH YOU'LL SEE MOMENTARILY.

IT'S 30% DESIGN AND THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS 60%.

AGAIN ALL THREE OF THESE ARE IN THE SAME PACKAGE SO THINKING WE'RE GOING TO BID THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME AND CONSTRUCT THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. SO CONSTRUCTION STARTS LATE THIS YEAR AND WE'RE FINISHED BY THIRD QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

W11 IS THE FM 1660 16 INCH AND 20 INCH WATER LINES.

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE -- IS ROUGHLY RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE TO THE WEST, THAT IS BEING DESIGNED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

SO DEVELOPMENT IS DESIGNING IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT AND THERE WILL BE SOME COST PARTICIPATION BY THE CITY.

SO THE THOUGHT IS FROM THAT LINE TO THE EAST WHAT WILL ALSO HAPPEN WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY, AND THERE WOULD BE SOME COST PARTICIPATION.

SO THIS ONE IS KIND OF IN PROCESS BUT NOT BEING DONE BY

THE CITY ITSELF. >> THE COST PARTICIPANT IS

MEADOW BROOK? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUBDIVISION MEANS. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE WAYLON TRACK. SORRY I'M NOT QUITE UP TO SPEED

ON ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS. >> THERE ARE A LOT.

I REMEMBER THERE WERE SOME SEVERAL WE WERE GOING FOR MUDS

IN THAT DISTRICT. >> W12, SO THIS IS THE NEW 2 MILLION GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

TECHNICALLY ON THIS ONE, THE DESIGN WAS NOT PROGRAMMED FOR 23, BUT IT WAS PROGRAMMED FOR 25.

HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO ME THAT WE CONSIDER GOING AHEAD AND STARTING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THESE THINGS AND DOING SOME PRELIMINARY SITE SELECTION SO THAT AS ASHLEY AND I WORK WITH DEVELOPERS WE CAN START GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME A LITTLE BIT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THESE AND SEE ABOUT NEGOTIATING SOME LAND FROM THESE DEVELOPERS TO BASICALLY FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN FROM THE WATER SYSTEM PERSPECTIVE. W13, THERE'S NO CONSULTANT ON THIS ONE YET. SO AS I ALREADY MENTIONED, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE WHOLESALE PROVIDER THING TO GET US THAT SHORT-TERM GAP FILLED. AND SO THIS ONE WAS KIND OF HELD BACK A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE KIND OF HAVE A BETTER PATH FORWARD ON THAT AVENUE BEFORE WE START GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING ALL OF THE STUDIES AND LOOKING INTO ADDING ADDITIONAL WELLS. W W14 IS THE COUNTY ROAD 132 12 AND 30 INCH WATER LINES.

THAT WILL BE PHASE TWO. PHASE ONE IS ALREADY IN PROCESS.

IT'S ABOUT 30% DESIGNED. SO THIS ONE IS KIND OF BEING HELD BACK UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG IN THAT PROCESS BEFORE WE START TRYING TO DESIGN PHASE TWO WHILE WE'RE DESIGNING

PHASE ONE. >> THAT ONE IS MEADOW BROOK.

>> YES. W16, HIGHWAY 79 42 INCH WATER

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30% DESIGN. WE'RE APPROACHING 60%.

CONSTRUCTION LATE THIS YEAR BEING WRAPPED UP BY QUARTER THREE OF NEXT YEAR. AND WE'RE IN WASTEWATER.

TWO THIRD OF THE WAY DONE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS WW1, THE GLENWOOD STATION DECOMMISSIONING.

THEY WERE ABOUT 95% PRELIMINARY COMPLETE.

AND THEN SOME CHANGES HAPPENED SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR CONTRACT. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING DOWN IN THAT SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO C CONSOLIDATE THINGS IN FRONT OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THAT'S PART OF THE SCOPE WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT IPO CHANGE BACK TO YOU GUYS I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK OR NOT NEXT WEEK, SORRY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL AND CONSIDERATION. AND ASSUMING THAT THAT TIMELINE HOLDS AND WE GET EVERYTHING AWARDED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, DESIGN WILL RESUME THIS QUARTER, BIDDING IT IN THE THIRD QUARTER, STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THE FOURTH QUARTER AND THEN BEING WRAPPED UP BY THE END OF 24 OR BY THIRD QUARTER OF 24.

WW2 IS BEING DONE BY GARVER. IT SAYS THEY'RE 30% DESIGN COMPLETE. IT'S JUST A RERATE STUDY.

THE STUDY IS BASICALLY DONE. WE ARE SENDING EVERYTHING OVER.

WE HAD TO DO SOME COORDINATION WITH TCEQ TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE FLOW CALCULATIONS THAT WE HAD COME UP WITH.

WE DID ALL OF THAT COORDINATION TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND SO WE ARE PREPARING TO SUBMIT IT, WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE FORMS AND STUFF FINALIZED LAST WEEK SO WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THAT OVER TO TCEQ FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR THE RERATE STUDY I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK IS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.

AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE TCEQ APPROVAL BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

WW3 IS THE SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT TEMPORARY CHEMICAL AND UV SYSTEM UPGRADES. WE'RE ABOUT 30% DESIGN AND COMPLETE THERE. WE JUST SUBMITTED THE TESTING PROTOCOL TO TCEQ LAST WEEK I BELIEVE IT WAS.

JUST TO UPDATE EVERYBODY ON THAT ONE, SO THIS SAYS CHEMICAL SLASH UV SYSTEM UPGRADE. SO THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS WE WERE GOING TO PUT UPGRADES TO THE UV SYSTEM OR PUT A TEMPORARY UV SYSTEM OUT THERE. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT UV SYSTEM.

WE'RE BURNING THROUGH VALVES TOO QUICKLY.

SO THIS CHEMICAL TREATMENT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFECTIVE OVERALL.

AND SO TCEQ IS IN THE PROCESS OF ALLOWING IT IN TEXAS AND SO WHAT WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH THEM TO ALLOW THIS TO BE FAST TRACKED IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE KIND OF THEIR GUINEA PIGS.

WHEN I SAY GUINEA PIGS, THIS IS A TESTED AND APPROVED SYSTEM IN OTHER STATES. IT'S NOT APPROVED BY TCEQ IN TEXAS YET. SO WHAT WE HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THEM IS WE HAVE THEM PROVING OUR TESTING PROTOCOLS.

SO WE WILL BE SHARING ALL OF OUR RESULTS WITH THEM SO THAT AS THEY WRITE THEIR REGULATIONS TO MAKE THIS A STATE-WIDE ACCEPTABLE METHODOLOGY, THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT OUR TESTING RESULTS TO IMPLEMENT THEIR PROCEDURES MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS BEING SET UP AND DONE BY THE END OF 23.

>> SO THIS SAYS COMPLETION CALENDAR YEAR SHOULD THAT BE 24?

>> YES, SORRY, THAT SHOULD BE CY24, FIRST QUARTER.

SOUTHWEST EXPANSION, SO THIS WAS JUST AWARDED ON THE 19TH.

WE HAD A KICK OFF MEETING LAST WEEK AND WE WERE GOING TO START SURVEY AND ALL OF THE COORDINATION AT THE PLANT THIS WEEK. UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE WEATHER, WE HAD TO PUSH THAT OUT A WEEK. AND SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE SURVEYORS AND ALL OF THE DATA COLLECTION AND ALL OF THAT EFFORT STARTING NEXT WEEK. WE'VE ALREADY SET THAT UP, THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED OUR PEOPLE TO BE OUT THERE.

AND SO WE'RE SAYING DESIGN START FIRST QUARTER 23, AND THE 30%

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AT WHICH POINT WE WILL START WW5 WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN AWARDED, BUT THAT IS THE REST OF THE DESIGN TO TAKE IT FROM 30% TO 100% AND GET READY FOR THE BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THE AWARD SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR AND PICK UP IDEALLY WE WOULD DO A SMOOTH TRANSITION SO THEY KEEP MOVING FROM 30% INTO 60%, 90%, 100%.

SO THERE'S NO TIME LOST ON THAT ONE.

SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING STARTING AT THAT SAME THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR WITH THE NEXT PHASE. WW7, MEGA SITE WEST.

THEY'RE AT 30% DESIGN COMPLETE. ALONG THAT EDGE THAT GOES KIND OF SOUTH THERE, THAT'S THE GRAVITY PORTION AND SO THEY'RE GETTING THROUGH ALL OF THE RIGHTS OF ENTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ALL OF THEIR SURVEY AND ALL OF THAT DATA PROPERLY LAID OUT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO 60% AND 90% AND MOVE ON FROM THERE. WE'RE ANTICIPATING BIDDING FOR THIS ONE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

CONSTRUCTION TO START THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

AND COMPLETION BY SECOND QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

MEGA SITE WEST, SOUTH COTTONWOOD CREEK INTERCEPTER PHASE TWO.

FOR THE SAME REASONS WE DIDN'T DO THE WATER LINE PHASE TWO YET, WE'RE HOLDING OFF WITH THE PHASE TWO OF THE WASTEWATER LINE.

MEGA SITE EAST, FOUR INCH GRAVITY LINE.

SO THIS KIND OF GOES WITH THAT MEGA SITE WEST PHASE ONE BECAUSE THIS IS THE ACTUAL LIFT STATION AND FORCE MAIN THAT TIES INTO THAT GRAVITY LINE THAT YOU SAW IN THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO THIS ONE, WE'RE DOING THOSE TWO IN KIND OF A PACKAGE WITH K FRIESE. IT SAYS AH BODY T -- OBTAIN RIGHTS OF ENTRY BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE SCHEDULE IS BASICALLY THE

SAME FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS. >> SO IF YOU GO BACK, SO THAT LINE THAT JOGS DOWN 3349 FROM THE MAIN EAST/WEST SPINE THERE.

I'VE SEEN SOME DESIGNS THAT HAVE THAT, SOME THAT DON'T.

THIS ONE DOES, IS THAT STILL PLANNED TO DO A LIFT STATION

DOWN THERE AND THEN PUSH IT UP? >> SO THE LOCATION OF THIS FORCE MAIN AND THE LOCATION OF THIS LIFT STATION KIND OF CONTINUE TO BE IN FLUX WITH THE UTILITY COORDINATION THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. THE LAST ROUND THAT I SAW DID NOT HAVE THE LIFT STATION DOWN THERE.

IT HAD IT MORE UP THERE WHERE THAT EAST/WEST CONNECTER IS.

>> THAT'S THE LAST PICTURE I SAW.

SO THIS DIDN'T MATCH THAT. SO THAT'S THE LATEST PLAN?

>> YES, SIR. WW10, INTERCEPTER PHASE THREE.

YOU REMEMBER WHEN I SHOWED YOU HALF OF IT WAS THE DEVELOPERS, THIS IS THE WASTEWATER AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. SO THIS ONE REALLY IS MOSTLY BEING DESIGNED BY THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE THERE.

SO THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A COST PARTICIPATION ON THE CITY'S PART. SO THIS IS BEING DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

AND THAT THAT WE ADDED TO THIS LIST WAS THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER LINE. THIS WAS NOT IN THE CRP.

THE REASON THAT WE WANTED TO ADD THIS TO THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY PROJECT FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT PART OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT CREATING A REGIONAL WASTEWATER SERVICE SYSTEM OUT THERE. AND SO I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY PROJECT. WE DON'T HAVE ACTUALLY ANYTHING IN THE CIP FOR THIS. BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO BRING IT BACK FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND DIRECTION AT SOME POINT. SO IN THE INTEREST OF BEING TRANSPARENT AND TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS, I WANTED TO PUT IT UP THERE JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE ON HOW TO PROCEED AND GET THIS ONE DONE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. SO WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT KIND OF FOLLOWS THE WATER LINE. CAN THIS ALSO BERING WITH DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT AREA AND THAT PROPERTY?

IS THERE POTENTIAL FOR THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE DEFINITIVE

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ANSWER ON THAT. >> MATT, LET ME TAKE THIS ONE.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES BUT NO.

AND I'M NOT BEING CLEVER, WHAT I MEAN IS THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT OF A PROJECT FOR US TO WAIT FOR TO COBBLE IT TOGETHER WITH ENOUGH DEVELOPERS. AND THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED FROM THE COUNTY ARE FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO FUND.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHEN DOCUMENT COMES ON AND CONNECTS, THAT WE CAN'T DO SOME FORM OF CAPITAL RECOVERY AND GET COST PARTICIPATION THAT WAY. SO IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE OF IF WE HAD THE LUXURY OF JUST LETTING THIS BUILD SLOWLY OVER TIME PIECE BY PIECE FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BACK, THEN WE COULD MOSTLY WAIT ON DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE CAN'T.

>> AND IS THIS WHERE THE 10 MILLION WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY

IS COMING INTO PLAY? >> YES, THAT'S FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> GREAT, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS?

>> JUST WANT TO SAY WELCOME BACK.

YOU HAD A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> I'VE GOT A COUPLE BEFORE YOU GO. AND IT'S MORE JUST FOR KIND OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE ARPA. WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT AGREEMENT? OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT GOOD WITH THE HAND SHAKE WITH THE COUNTY. AND I KNOW WE'RE WELL IN THE WORK WITH TAYLOR. BUT HAVE WE GOT ENOUGH STUFF TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN GET SOMETHING SIGNED WHERE WE DON'T GO DESIGN AND START BUILDING SOMETHING AND THEN SOMEONE TELLS

US -- >> I THINK SPECIFICALLY ONCE WE HAVE THE IPO FOR THE DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GET THE LETTER FROM THE COUNTY COMMITTING THE $10 MILLION. CONTINGENT UPON THE ILA WITH TAYLOR ON TAYLOR BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE.

REMEMBER WE DID THE LETTER AGREEMENT IF YOU WILL, LIKE AN LOI FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM WITH TAYLOR.

BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE LOGISTICS OF EXACTLY HOW MUCH, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, SO ON AND SO FORTH BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THOSE VARIABLES. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US TO BUILD THIS SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO CHARGE TAYLOR TODAY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GET THERE, WE JUST HAVE TO DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT ORDER.

SO WHENEVER I WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THIS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER TIMEFRAME, THE MESSAGE TO ME WAS YOU'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, THE LETTER WITH TAYLOR SATISFIES OUR DESIRE TO SEE THAT YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE GET AN ACTUAL TO AN ILA WITH THE COUNTY UNTIL WE HAVE THIS UNDER DESIGN FOR THEM TO SAY OKAY, WE SEE THAT YOU'RE NOW COMMITTED TO EXPENDING FUNDS AND NOW AGREEING TO GIVE YOU $10 MILLION OF THE ARPA FUNDS IF YOU MOVE THIS INTO

CONSTRUCTION. >> AND WHEN DOES THE ARPA FUNDS

EXPIRE? >> NOT TOO TERRIBLY LONG FROM NOW. ANN, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? SO WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF

TIME LEFT. >> I'M HEARING WE HAVE TO BANG OUT AN AGREEMENT, START DESIGN, DO ALL OF THAT WITH TAYLOR, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THE COUNTY, KNOCK OUT ANOTHER AGREEMENT.

WE DON'T SEEM TO DO THINGS VERY FAST HERE.

SO YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ME PANICKED NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN DECEMBER AND GOING WE JUST LOST $10 MILLION.

>> WELL, I THINK THAT I WOULD HAVE FAILED AT MY JOB IF -- THAT

SAID -- >> LET'S NOT DO THAT.

>> THAT SAID, I DON'T LIKE TO FAIL.

SO THAT SAID, THE SHORT OF THIS PROJECT IS THE REASON THAT IT'S ON HERE IS BECAUSE I DIRECTED MATT TO GO AHEAD AND FIND AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO PULL TOGETHER AN IPO TO BRING TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO FIND MONEY TO BEGIN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS FUNDED IN THE CIPS. IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS FUNDED IN THE BUDGET. AND WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR UNRESERVED BALANCE AND OUR GENERAL FUND, THIS IS A UTILITY FUND PROJECT SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT BEAR SO TO SPEAK. SO I NEED THESE THINGS TO BE POPPING ALONG. THE LETTER TO TAYLOR WAS AN IMPORTANT STEP TO SATISFY THE COUNTY.

NOW WE NEED TO DO RIGHT AND GET IT UNDER DESIGN AND THEN THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO AUTHORIZE US TO EXPEND THE FUNDS TO DO THAT. ONCE WE HAVE THOSE COMPONENTS IN PLACE, IN MY MIND WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO THE ILA WITH THE COUNTY. WE WILL NOT HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AN ACTUAL ILA WITH TAYLOR THAT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THIS MUCH PER GALLON. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT CALCULATION UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US TO BUILD

THIS THING. >> OKAY.

THEN FROM A JUST HOW WE DO THINGS, I DIDN'T WORK WITH MATT ON THE AGENDA THIS WEEK WITH WEATHER I GUESS.

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IF WE CAN SEND THESE OUT AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMENTS LIKE I THINK THIS TIMELINE IS TOO SHORT OR WHATEVER, IF WE DO THAT BEFOREHAND LIKE NOT 72 HOURS BUT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN MARCH, IF WE COULD SEND THAT OUT THEN THEN WE CAN COME THROUGH AND JUST CLICK, CLICK, CLICK GO THROUGH THINGS.

>> I WOULD EXPECT, MAYOR, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 40 NEW PROJECTS IN MARCH. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME 40 PROJECTS, HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DESCRIBE WHAT EACH PROJECT IS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF POINTS HE'LL WANT TO CLARIFY NEXT TIME HE PRESENTS.

BUT HERE FORWARD IT WOULD JUST BE NO UPDATE, NO UPDATE, HERE'S WHAT'S CHANGED WITH THIS ONE. NO UPDATE, NO UPDATE, WE'VE GOT PICTURES. IT WILL BE MORE LIKE THAT.

>> SO IF WE CAN GET THAT AHEAD OF TIME THAT WAY IF WE DO HAVE A QUESTION. WE GOT THAT LAST ONE BACK IN I THINK AUGUST WE VOTED, HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT CIP PLAN PROJECTS AND WE VOTED AS A COUNCIL TO HAVE STAFF ON 5 OR 6 PROJECTS TO GO GET COST AND BRING THEM BACK TO US SO WE CAN DECIDE DO WE WANT TO EVEN ADD THOSE TO CIP PROJECT.

SO HERE WE ARE ROUGHLY ABOUT FIVE MONTHS LATER.

CAN WE GET THOSE, I CAN SEND YOU THE LIST.

BUT IF WE CAN GET THOSE AT THE NEXT UPDATE TO WHERE HE WE AT LEAST GET OUR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND.

WHILE THIS WORK INVOLVES 1660 BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT LIMMER AND ED SCHMIDT. SO ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH LIMMER AND 1660 GOES THROUGH LIMMER AND ED SCHMIDT.

NOT BEING FACETIOUS HERE BUT IF IT TAKES US TWO YEARS TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A PROJECT AND ALL OF THE CITY GOES THROUGH LIMMER AND ED SCHMIDT THAT TELLS ME WE'RE PROBABLY MINIMUM THREE YEARS AWAY UNTIL THAT'S FIXED AND 3 YEARS OF ROAD UP THERE IT BACKS UP TO RIO. IF IT BACKS UP ANY FURTHER, TXDOT IS GOING TO BE MAD AT US. I WANT TO KNOW THE COST SO WE AS A COUNCIL CAN SAY GO FORWARD OR NOT.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW I THINK SOMETHING ELSE.

>> JUST SO EVERYONE'S MIND IS CLEAR, IN MY MIND THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THIS IS A REPORT ON THE THINGS THAT EXIST AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ADJUSTING THE ACTUAL OVERARCHING CIP PLAN TO INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED OR TO MOVE ITEMS UP IN IMPORTANCE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING.

RIGHT? >> WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS SOME KIND OF ADVANCEMENT IN SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT PEOPLE IN HUTTO FEEL LIKE ARE MORE OF AN ISSUE THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSULTANTS AND ENGINEERS NOT LIVING IN HUTTO.

BECAUSE COMING INTO HUTTO, I'M NOT PICKING ON ANYBODY BUT IF YOU DRIVE IN AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING AND DRIVE OUT AT 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, A PERSON WHO'S HERE SATURDAY, SUNDAY, FRIDAY NIGHT, SO AT SOME POINT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET IT, I MEAN THE COUNCIL VOTED TO HAVE STAFF DO IT, IT HADN'T HAPPENED YET.

AT SOME POINT WHEN WE TALK CIP PROJECTS, SOMEONE IS GOING TO SAY WHAT ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT FROM STAFF. AND I'M JUST WARNING EVERYBODY THAT IF IT'S THREE YEARS TO BUILD A ROAD, ALL OF THE MONEY WE COULD SPEND WHATEVER, HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN. BUT IF YOU DON'T FIX THE BEGINNING OF THE PINCH POINT YOU HAVEN'T FIXED ANYTHING.

YOU'VE ONLY SOLVED HALF THE PROBLEM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS DONE, WHETHER IT BE A WHOLE SEPARATE ITEM OR WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN OR VOTE AGAIN.

>> THAT'S THE CIP WHICH IS LIKE A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT INCLUDES WATER, WASTEWATER AND STREETS. THERE'S A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS THAT AREN'T ON THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE ONES THE COUNCIL HAS AUTHORIZED US TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO.

>> ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PROJECTS WE HAD.

>> CURRENTLY. >> HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, WE MAY HAVE A PROJECT DO WE SAY THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT, THIS IS NUMBER FIVE IMPORTANT IN THE CITY.

WE WANT A SIGNAL AT INNOVATION AND LIMMER LET'S SAY BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED OF PEOPLE DYING. UNTIL WE GET A COST FROM SOMEBODY THAT TELLS US THIS IS GOING TO COST $500,000, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET INTO WRECKS AND ASK WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS DONE. ALL WE CAN SAY IS WE CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE ROADS WE'RE BUILDING FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.

WE KEEP SAYING WE WANT TO HAVE A LOOK AT AND DO SOME PROJECTS NOW ON, SO IF THAT'S NOT A CIP UPDATE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT AT SOME POINT AND I CAN JUST SAY I WANT AN ITEM FOR AN UPDATE ON THE COUNCIL ACTION FROM AUGUST.

AND THEN WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT THERE'S SIGNALS WE ASKED ABOUT.

THERE'S ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WE ASKED ABOUT.

AND TO ME WHEN WE'RE TALKING CIP PROJECTS, WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT COUNCIL SAID HEY MAYBE WE WANT TO CHANGE THE IMPORTANCE, MAYBE WE DON'T. WE HAVEN'T VOTED BECAUSE WE

DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS. >> YEAH, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU,

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MAYOR, THANK YOU. >> ALSO JUST A FOLLOW UP ON THE ARPA FUNDS. THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE UNDER CONTRACT BY THE END OF 24 AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE END OF 26.

THAT'S OUR TIMELINE FOR THE WASTEWATER.

>> COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN. >> UNDER CONTRACT BY THE END OF 24 AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE END OF 26.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR TIMELINE FOR THE WASTEWATER, THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER LINE. OUR TIMEFRAME.

>> COULD WE GET THIS PRESENTATION ADDED TO OUR DROPBOX? JUST IN TODAY'S FOLDER.

>> YES, SIR. >> MATT, WELCOME BACK.

IT SEEMS LIKE NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN HUTTO SINCE YOU LEFT.

IT HASN'T. WE'RE HOPING YOU GET US OUT OF THE DITCH AND BACK TO PROSPERITY AGAIN.

[7. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU. LOOKIN LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THINGS MOVING AGAIN.

THANK YOU. >> THAT MOVES US TO CITY MANAGER

COMMENTS. >> JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER.

HAPPY GROUNDHOG DAY. WE'RE STARTING TO WARM UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'VE GOT SIX MORE WEEKS OF WINTER EVIDENTLY.

KEEP THAT IN MIND. I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GIVE A BIG THANKS TO ALL OF THE FRONT LINE PERSONNEL THAT WERE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK THIS WEEK TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS SAFE AND ALL OF OUR UTILITIES RUNNING SMOOTHLY.

OF COURSE THE MOST VISIBLE ONES, THE POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS, AND PARKS. WE ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO WERE FUNCTIONING IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ROLES, INCLUDING OUR NEW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

I JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND BEING A PART AND SUPPORTING THIS AND WATCHING THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE PERFORMED VERY ADMIRABLY. I'M SURE THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE WORK THAT WE DO IS WE LOOK FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE THESE RESPONSES WORK EVEN BETTER.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT.

WE ALSO EVEN THOUGH CITY HALL WAS CLOSED DURING THE EVENT TO THE PUBLIC, EVERY DIVISION WAS STILL OPERATING VIRTUALLY, WE HAD VIRTUAL COURT, WE HAD A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE DEALT WITH. THE UTILITY BILLING LINES WERE BEING ANSWERED REMOTELY. SO THE LESSONS LEARNED DURING COVID COME IN VERY HANDY WHENEVER WE'RE TO RELOCATE OPERATIONS AND WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP FOLKS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY EVEN WHENEVER THEY'RE NOT HERE ALL THE TIME.

WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHO LIKE THE REST OF THE PUBLIC ARE AFFECTED BY POWER OUTAGES OR COMMUNICATION OUTAGES, DEBRIS AND WHATNOT. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING. WE WANTED TO THANK THE HUTTO RESIDENTS AND THE AREA WORKFORCE WHO FOR THE MOST PART LISTENED TO OUR WARNINGS AND STAYED OFF THE ROADS.

WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF SERIOUS ACCIDENTS INCLUDING AN OVERTURNED 18-WHEELER. BUT AGAIN ON THE FIRESIDE AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED A CITY DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY OPERATE AS IF THEY'RE A PART OF OUR TEAM, AND THE EMS, WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMS, EVERYONE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER IN EACH OF THESE ACCIDENTS AND INCIDENTS.

A NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT SLID OFF THE ROAD INTO DITCHES AND WHATNOT. I WILL ANNOUNCE THAT CITY HALL AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY WILL BE REOPEN TOMORROW FOR CITIZENS AND THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO COME IN WILL BE HERE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. BUT WE WILL NOT BE AT FULL STAFF MOSTLY BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST NOTED.

WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE POWER OUTAGES AND WHATNOT. SO WITH THE LIMITED STAFF WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE WELCOMING PEOPLE TO COME TO CITY HALL.

IF YOUR POWER IS OUT, COME RECHARGE YOUR DEVICES, THE LIBRARY WILL BE OPEN. VISIT WITH THE STAFF, WARM UP IF YOU'RE STILL WITHOUT POWER, AND NO HEAT AT YOUR HOMES.

AND THEN ALL OF THE SERVICES SHOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE VIA WEB, EMAIL, AND PHONE EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE EVERYONE PHYSICALLY HERE IN PERSON TO HAVE EVERY OFFICE OPEN.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE CLEANING UP DEBRIS.

ON THAT NOTE, IT WAS ASKED OF STAFF AND CERTAINLY A PART OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RESPONSE THAT WE LOOK AT A COMMUNITY DROP OFF EVENT FOR DEBRIS FROM THE STORM.

WE HAVE SLATED SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH ON COUNTY ROAD 137 TO BE THE DROP OFF LOCATION. THAT WILL BE FROM 8:00 TO NOON.

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SO IT'S BASICALLY BRUSH ONLY. DO NOT BE BRINGING US YOUR MATTRESSES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS FOR. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SO MANY LIMBS DOWN ACROSS THE CITY THAT IT WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT TO HAVE ACDI GO AROUND AND DO A SPECIAL PICK UP AT EVERYBODY'S HOME. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING EVERYBODY TO BRING THEIR DEBRIS IF THEY CAN.

IF THEY CAN'T, THEN THEY CAN FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ACDI HAS ABOUT THE EXTRA PICK UP AT YOUR CURB, JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S BUNDLED THE RIGHT SIZE SO THAT THEY CAN FIT IT INTO THEIR GARBAGE TRUCKS. WE REALIZE NOT EVERYBODY HAS A WAY TO HAUL DEBRIS AND LIMBS AND WHATNOT OUT TO THE PARK.

I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE FILING PERIOD TO BE LISTED IN OUR BALLOT IS STILL OPEN. THERE ARE THREE SEATS UP FOR ELECTION AND THE FILING DEADLINE IS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CHECK OUT OUR ELECTION PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE OR CALL ANGELA AND THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND ASK HER FOR INFORMATION. CALENDAR UPDATES, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THE WORLD HIPPO DAY CELEBRATION ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH.

EVERYONE IS INVITED HERE AT CITY HALL FROM 4:00 TO 6:00 TO CELEBRATE ALL THINGS HIPPO. AND TO KICK OFF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, OUR OWN POLICE CHIEF JEFF YARBROUGH WAS FEATURED TODAY ON KVEW. HIS PIECE BEGAN AIRING ON THEIR DAYBREAK PROGRAM THIS MORNING AND HAS BEEN REPEATING THROUGHOUT THE DAY. NOW TO OUR INTRODUCTION OF OUR NEW HIRES THAT JOINED TEAM HUTTO IN JANUARY.

SO AS I CALL OUT THE STAFF, IF YOU WILL COME UP TO THE FRONT AND STAND AT THE PODIUM, YOU MAY NOT BE IN THE ORDER UP THERE THAT I HAVE. SO ACTUALLY I'LL FLIP TO THAT ORDER. SO HERE WE GO.

ANN LAMIER IS SERVING AS OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR.

SHE LIVES UP IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA AND IS STAYING DOWN HERE DURING THE WEEK TO HELP US IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

SHE'S A LIFELONG TEXAN. HAS BEEN IN FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING FOR OVER 40 YEARS. SHE PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A STATE AUDITOR IN ADDITION TO HAVING SERVED THREE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS, TWO MUNICIPALITIES AND WORKING FOR VARIOUS GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS. NEXT WE HAVE MATT RECTOR.

MATT HAS BEEN HIRED TO FILL OUR POSITION AS CITY ENGINEER.

HE'S A RETURNING MEMBER TO HUTTO.

HE HAS 16 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.

HE'S A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. MATT HAS RECEIVED MANY AWARDS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER AND HAS BEEN HONORED FOR HIS SERVICE IN THE MARINE CORPS. BILL ZITO IS NOT HERE IN PERSON.

BILL IS OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, I TOLD HIM HE COULD SLEEP TONIGHT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HERE 24/7 THE LAST THREE DAYS IN CITY HALL. BUT THAT'S HIS PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT THERE. THIS IS A NEW POSITION FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. AND HE STARTED LAST WEEK ON MONDAY AND WE HAD OUR EMERGENCY THIS WEEK SO JUST FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU HIRE A NEW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR OR YOU LET A DEPARTMENT HEAD GO OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF TOWN FOR SOMETHING, EMERGENCIES HAPPEN. SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THAT. BUT ALL JOKING ASIDE, BILL DID AN AMAZING JOB. THIS POSITION WILL CERTAINLY HELP IMPROVE ABILITY TO PLAN FOR AND MORE SAFELY NAVIGATE A WIDE VARIETY OF EMERGENCIES. HE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AT LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL LEVELS.

HE WAS IN THE U.S. ARMY FOR 23 YEARS SERVING THREE TOURS IN IRAQ WHERE HE WAS AWARDED THREE BRONZE STARS FOR HIS SERVICE.

HE'S WORKED FOR THREE U.S. CONGRESS MEMBERS INCLUDING WORKING FOR THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

ETHAN SIMS IS OUR NEW BUDGET ANALYST.

HE MOVED TO AUSTIN TO ATTEND UT IN 2015 AND HASN'T LEFT.

HE EARNED HIS BACHELOR'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AT THE LBJ SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS. HE IS OUR ENTRY LEVEL A2 PIPELINE, THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER PIPELINE FOR ASPIRING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROFESSIONALS AND IS WORKING IN THE FINANCE DIVISION CURRENTLY. ANNA RODRIGUEZ IS JOINING MY OFFICE AS THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

SHE BRINGS TO HUTT O 13 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND MOVED HERE IN 2013 WHERE THEY WELCOMED TWO

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BRYCE DAVILLA PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK, AS WELL AS GOLD'S GYM AND UT SAN ANTONIO.

HE'S CURRENTLY PURSUING HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE AT UT SAN ANTONIO. HE'S EXCITED TO BRING HIS EXPERIENCE TO HUTTO PARKS AND RECREATION AND HELP GROW OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. SOPHIA SIERRA IS OUR NEWEST PLANNER AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SOPHIA GRADUATED FROM TEXAS A&M. OKAY THERE IT IS.

IN 2021 WITH A DEGREE IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING.

SHE PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND SHE'S EXCITED TO HELP SUPPORT THE GROWTH HERE IN HUTTO. KYLA COLEMAN.

KYLA IS OUR NEW VICTIMS ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR.

I DIDN'T SEE HER IN THE AUDIENCE SO I GUESS SHE CAN'T BE HERE.

THIS IS ALSO A NEW POSITION FOR THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING THE EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL NEEDS OF VICTIMS OF CRIME. KYLA SPENT THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AS A PROBATION OFFICER AND EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

SHE'S INVOLVED IN MANY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE BOTH HUTTO RESIDENTS.

TRACY RODRIGUEZ. TRACY IS ALSO JOINING THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

TRACY HAS BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT SINCE 1992 WORKING FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS OF ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND SHARE THREE CHILDREN.

THIS IS THE ROUND OF NEW HIRES FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN WELCOMING THEM TO TEAM HUTTO.

[8. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 8.1 COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF AS WELL STARTING WITH A WATER LINE BREAK. I FOUND OUT FROM A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT THAT THERE WAS MUD IN THE WATER.

AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE HAD A CREW, EVERYONE IN PUBLIC SERVICES WAS ON THE GROUND IN FREEZING TEMPERATURES TRYING TO FIX THIS UNTIL 7:30 IN THE MORNING.

SO THEY WERE OUT THERE FOR OVER 14 HOURS I WOULD SAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY MANAGER EARP FOR JOINING THEM, BRINGING THEM HAMBURGERS AND BEING IN THE TRENCHES WITH THEM SO TO SPEAK. FROM THE UPDATE I RECEIVED FROM CITY MANAGER EARP, THEY WORK WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND USE WHAT THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

SO I KNOW IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE HELP IMPROVE THE, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR, THE ABILITY FOR THESE CREWS TO GET OUT THERE AND FIX THINGS MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW AT THEIR ACCESS.

AND AGAIN THIS WEEK, THE PD, EVERYONE STEPPED UP SO MUCH IN THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT GETTING US COMMUNICATIONS WHEN WE NEED IT, PUTTING IT OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK AND JUST REALLY KEEPING THE COMMUNITY INFORMED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE SEEN.

AND RICHARD, I KNOW THAT NOBODY HAS REALLY SAID HELLO TO YOU, BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL YOU'RE HERE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MEETING ME AT A RESIDENT'S HOUSE THAT ONE DAY AND HELPING KIND OF NAVIGATE A VERY EMOTIONAL SITUATION.

BUT I JUST THANK YOU AND WELCOME YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN IN THE FIELD AS WELL THE LAST TWO WEEKS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> JUST ONE FOR TONIGHT. IN THE MORNING, IT MIGHT BE AT 31 RIGHT AT THAT FREEZING MARK AGAIN.

SO BE CAREFUL ON THE ROADS IN THE MORNING.

IN FACT HUTTO ISD HAS CANCELED SCHOOL AGAIN FOR TOMORROW.

I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE IF YOU HADN'T SEEN IT OR WEREN'T ANNOUNCED. SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AND WE'LL CLEAN UP AND GET PAST THIS IN HUTTO LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.

I LOST A LOT OF LIMBS ON TREES SO I'M TAKING ADVANTAGE OF GOING AND DROPPING THEM OFF ON THE 11TH.

THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> I HAVE A FEW.

SO THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE IS ACTUALLY DOING A GIRLS NIGHT OUT, 80S STYLE, ON FEBRUARY 23RD.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REALLY AWESOME, EXCITING EVENT.

EVERYONE IN YOUR 80S DRESS UP. IT IS $30 TO JOIN THE HUTTO

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SO THAT IS FEBRUARY 23RD. IT'S GOING TO BE A SUPER FUN NIGHT. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND APRIL 1ST IS THEIR HIPPO STAMPEDE.

SO IT'S A 5K. THERE'S USUALLY AN AMAZING T-SHIRT DESIGN AND I'M DEFINITELY A WALKER.

THEY DO A WALK AND RUN 5K. I WALK IT, BUT HEY I DO IT AND AGAIN IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND AGAIN THAT'S PUT ON BY THE HUTTO WOMEN'S ALLIANCE.

AND I ATTENDED THE CHAMBER GALA THIS LAST SATURDAY.

FANTASTIC JOB TO THE CHAMBER AND ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THEY HAD TO GET A LARGER SPACE BECAUSE IT'S GROWING SO MUCH. I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD SIGN TO THE CITY AND AGAIN JUST FANTASTIC JOB TO THE CHAMBER AND I THINK THEY JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THE CRAWFISH FESTIVAL THAT SHOULD BE COMING UP IN APRIL.

SO AGAIN THAT'S ALWAYS A REALLY FUN EVENT AND AS ALWAYS THEY DO LOOK FOR VOLUNTEERS AT THAT EVENT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT ONE, THE WORD CAME UP TODAY IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, I THINK IT WAS TODAY, PERSONAL TOUCHES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED OUT OF HUTTO OVER THIS PAST FREEZE, HPD, HFD, THE PARKS PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC WORKS, ALL OF THE STAFF THAT'S WORKING, THERE WAS SEVERAL EXAMPLES WHERE THEY WERE WORKING AND HELPING A LOT OF TIMES PUTTING THEMSELVES AHEAD OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES. SO I THINK IT WAS CHIEF YARBROUGH MENTIONED PERSONAL TOUCHES.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK AS HUTTO GROWS AS A BIGGER TOWN HOW YOU KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL IS YOU STILL HAVE STAFF THAT'S STILL WORKING THAT WAY. WE HAVE TO PAY THEM AND REWARD THEM FOR THAT AS WELL. BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE OUT TRYING TO HELP EACH OTHER GET THROUGH THE STORM.

AND THAT'S THINGS I DON'T THINK YOU SEE IN A LOT OF THE BIGGER CITIES. SO I TOO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID KNOWING THAT A LOT OF US THINK IT'S WORK YOU DON'T SEE. A LOT OF US, LET'S BE HONEST, WE DON'T THANK FOLKS FOR THINGS WE DIDN'T KNOW.

THE REASON YOUR WATER WAS STILL COMING OUT OF THE FAUCET DURING THE FREEZE IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS WORKING ON IT.

AND THANK GOD WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SERIOUS ISSUES THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO.

SO FOR THAT, I'M ALSO EXCITED THAT BILL HAS STARTED.

WE'LL HAVE MORE TO TALK WITH HIM ABOUT AS TIME GOES.

BUT OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TASK FORCE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'LL BE DOING IS TO KEEP HELPING THE CITY I GUESS RELIEVE THE BURDEN ON STAFF FOR THINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T PRIORITIES, LIKE DOWNED POWER LINES, THOSE ARE PRIORITIES.

BUT HEY, I NEED HELP CHECKING ON MY NEIGHBOR.

IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TASK FORCE WILL BE COMING UP WITH WAYS TO CHECK ON PEOPLE.

I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED THE STEER, WHAT IS THAT?

>> IT'S S-T-E-A-R, IT'S AN ACRONYM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT

STANDS FOR. >> IT WILL BE COMMUNICATION COMING OUT FOR OUR ELDERLY OR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE AREN'T AS MOBILE TO GET AROUND AND OTHER DISABILITIES.

WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON THAT AND KEEP IMPROVING.

SO EVERYTHING YOU SAW ROLLING THIS PAST WEEK, BY ALL MEANS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FEEL THAT WAY, PASS THAT ON SO THAT OUR STAFF AND BOARDS HELPING TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT CAN ALSO WORK TO WHERE NEXT TIME MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO ON TO THE

CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS. >> I JUST WANT TO LET THE REST OF THE COUNCIL KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T SEE, INSTEAD OF GIVING MY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UPDATE HERE, I PUT IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET AN UPDATE ON HOW THE HBC WENT, YOU CAN GET AN UPDATE THERE.

>> ANY OTHER UPDATES? HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'VE ONLY GOT TWO.

BRING BACK AT THE FEBRUARY 16TH MEETING THE DISCUSSION ON FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES NOW THAT IT APPEARS SOMEWHERE I READ I

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AND ALSO AN AGENDA ITEM HOWEVER WE NEED TO AWARD IT, WASTEWATER LINE WITH TAYLOR. NOT MAYBE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH TO WHERE WE HAVE A MONTH TO COME UP WITH WHO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE ENGINEER IT OR WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO AS A COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE AND WE'RE

NOT THE ONES STOPPING IT. >> MAYOR, I HAVE ONE I'D LIKE TO ADD AS WELL, NOT NECESSARILY WITH A DATE BUT HOPEFULLY IN MARCH, SEEING THAT COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS COMPLETED AND DONE, IF WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF -- IS THAT ALREADY PLANNED?

>> THAT'S PLANNED FOR THE WORKSHOP FOR FEBRUARY 16TH.

>> AWESOME, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHERS?

[9. PUBLIC COMMENT]

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN WHEN IT'S 30 SECONDS LEFT, IT WILL GO TO YELLOW AND THEN AT RED UNFORTUNATELY WE'LL HAVE TO END YOUR TIME. THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS RICK

HUDSON. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

RICK HUDSON, I AM A RESIDENT OF HUTTO.

LAST SESSION YOU WERE TRYING TO FIRM UP THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENCY. BUT I FEEL LIKE A COMMON SITUATION WAS MISSED. A RESIDENT WHO NEITHER OWNS NOR RENTS IN HUTTO. A COLLEGE STUDENT LIVING WITH PARENTS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS.

DOES THE VAGUE DECLARATION OF DOMICILE IN THE CHARTER SUFFICE? OR IS IT YOUR INTENT TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS FROM FILING FOR OR HOLDING OFFICE? SECOND ITEM FROM LAST SESSION, YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT 37 YEARS AGO I TOOK AN OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I AM STILL BOUND BY THAT OATH TO THIS DAY. I TAKE OATHS VERY SERIOUSLY, SO I WAS UNHAPPY THAT ONLY FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO THE SAME. UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING, NOT ONE OF YOU SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND THE HUTTO CITY CHARTER.

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE CONSTITUTION, YOU PRESENT YOUR ARGUMENT TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR POSSIBLE AMENDMENT. YOU DO NOT USE YOUR POSITION TO VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CONSTITUTION.

I CANNOT IMAGINE THE MENTAL GYMNASTICS REQUIRED TO JUSTIFY DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE STATE CONSTITUTION AS SOMEHOW PROTECTING OR DEFENDING IT. I SEE NO MENTION OF THIS ON THE AGENDA. SO IS THE COUNCIL NOT GOING TO ACT ON THIS? LAST ITEM FROM LAST SESSION.

THE CITY ATTORNEY ARGUED THAT PLACE FIVE DID NOT HAVE TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM VOTING ON 12.4 BECAUSE COUNCIL PAY DID NOT EXCEED 10% OF HER YEARLY INCOME. ACCORDING TO THE JANUARY 2023 COMMUNITY IMPACT, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, NOT INDIVIDUAL INCOME FOR HUTTO WAS $94,807. THE THRESHOLD FOR EXCEEDING 10% OF COUNCIL PAY IS $96,000. NEARLY $1,200 MORE.

IS IT THE INTENTION OF THIS COUNCIL TO ONLY ALLOW THE RICH TO VOTE ON CERTAIN ITEMS? I AGREE THAT THE CITY CHARTER NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. WE NEED THE ENTIRE CHARTER SCRUTINIZED AND FIXED THE RIGHT WAY THIS TIME.

THE PARTISAN POLITICS OF THE PAST WERE OBVIOUSLY NOT EFFECTIVE, COMPREHENSIVE, NOR FAIR.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE JAMES WEAVER OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE IDA FIRST? IDA WEAVER.

>> YEAH, IDA WEAVER, CITY OF HUTTO.

I YIELD MY TIME TO MR. WEAVER. >> ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE JAMES

WEAVER. >> MY NAME IS JAMES WEAVER.

I LIVE IN HUTTO. I'M HERE IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY. IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 19, 2023, MAYOR SNYDER MADE A MOTION TO REPLACE A FORFEITURE OF A SECTION OF THE CITY CHARTER.

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MS. KINSEY STARTED PUBLICLY AT THE END OF THE NOVEMBER 3, 2022, COUNCIL MEETING THAT SHE WOULD BE RESIGNING BECAUSE HER FAMILY WAS MOVING TO THE CYPRESS AREA NEAR HOUSTON.

HER RESIGNATION WAS PUBLISHED BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 19, 2023, AND AS SUCH WAS FINAL PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.

MS. KINSEY HERSELF SEEMED INCREDULOUS THAT SHE WAS ORDERED TO HOLD OVER. SURELY THIS WOULD BE A HEAVY BURDEN FOR HER FAMILY. OUR CHARTER DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY COUNCIL PERSON FOR A HOLDOVER. AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. GENERAL LAW IS NOT APPLICABLE TO CITY VACANCIES IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT IS TO CITIES INCORPORATED UNDER THE GENERAL LAW.

THE CITY LOOKS TO THEIR CHARTER FIRST.

AN AG OPINION SUPPLIED TO ME BY COUNCILPERSON CLARK DATED JANUARY 6, 2021, IT'S KEN PAXTON 0351 AN EXAMPLE OF THIS SITUATION. THE AG OPINION STATES THAT ARTICLE 11, SECTION 11 VACANCIES APPLIES TO THE RESIGN TO RUN PROVISION OF ARTICLE 16, SECTION 25 THE OFFICERS OF A HOME RULE CITY AND OFFICERS OF A CITY OPERATING UNDER THE GENERAL LAW.

HOWEVER, ARTICLE 11 SECTION 11 DOES NOT APPLY HOLDOVER NOR DOES ARTICLE 16 SECTION 65. UNDER ARTICLE 11, SUBSECTION 11C, ANY VACANCIES MUST BE FILLED BY A SPECIAL ELECTION.

HOWEVER, HOME RULE CITIES MAY PROVIDE BY CHARTER OR CHARTER AMENDMENT THE PROCEDURE FOR FILING A VACANCY OR FILLING A VACANCY, PARDON ME, OCCURRING ON ITS GOVERNING BODY FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM OF 12 MONTHS OR LESS.

HUTTO HAS THIS ADDRESSED IN ITS SECTION 3.06 OF OUR CHARTER.

THE CURRENT PLACE FIVE VACANCY DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE EXCEPTIONS OF ARTICLE 11 SUBSECTION 11C.

THIS VACANCY WAS A RESULT OF A RESIGNATION DUE TO THE COUNCIL PERSON MOVING OUT OF HUTTO LEAVING A REMAINING TERM GREATER THAN ONE YEAR AND ONE MONTH, THEREFORE IT MUST BE FILLED BY A SPECIAL ELECTION. COUNCILPERSONS SUTTON, CLARK, GORDON, KOLAR DID VIOLATE THEIR TEXAS STATE AND CITY OF HUTTO OATHS OF OFFICE BY EFFECTIVELY APPOINTING A NONQUALIFIED INTERIM REPLACEMENT TO PLACE FIVE.

MAYOR SNYDER SAYING MS. KINSEY FORFEITED PLACE FIVE BECAUSE SHE IS NO LONGER QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

ARTICLE 11 AND SECTION 11 MAKE NO PROVISION FOR COUNCIL PERSON HOLDOVER IN THE OFFICE. THE SUBJECT VOTE IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 19, 2023, ON THE FORFEITURE OF PLACE FIVE SHOULD BE VOIDED AND RETAKEN AS MS. KINSEY SHOULD HAVE RECUSED HERSELF. CITY COUNCIL MUST A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AS SOON AS PRACTICAL TO INCORPORATE THE -- AS APPLIED TO HOME RULE CITIES IN ARTICLE 11 SECTION 11.

ALSO THERE IS NO PROVISION IN OUR CHARTER TO APPOINT A REPLACEMENT TO FILL THE VACANCY FIVE VACANT TERM OF MORE THAN ONE YEAR AND ONE MONTH UNTIL THE QUALIFIED REPLACEMENT IS ELECTED BY A SPECIAL ELECTION IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS TIME.

FOR A SINGLE VACANCY, THIS IS NOT CRITICAL SINCE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ELECTED AT LARGE AND SERVE ALL THE POPULATION.

HOWEVER, IT COULD CRIPPLE OUR CITY IN THE CASE OF MULTIPLE VACANCIES. BOTTOM LINE, COUNCIL HAVE BEEN TRYING TO APPLY THE WRONG ARTICLE OF THE CONSTITUTION TO HOME RULE CITY ARTICLE 11 SECTION 11 APPLIES TO THE FILLING OF VACANCIES IN HOME RULE CITIES, NOT ARTICLE 16.

THIS IS THE COMMON THREAD FOR THE COMPENSATION, HOLDOVER, AND FORFEITURE ISSUES CONCERNING PLACE FIVE AND PLACE SIX.

IF SOME COUNCIL PERSONS ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THESE PERCEIVED APPLICATIONS OF GENERAL LAW ARTICLE 16 TO HOME RULE CITIES, THE HUTTO COUNCIL SHOULD REQUEST AN AG OPINION TO DETERMINE JUST WHAT GENERAL LAW PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN APPLIED TO HOME RULE CITIES SUCH AS OURS. I FULLY INTEND TO REQUEST RESIGNATION THIS EVENING, BUT IN STYLE OF ROBIN SUTTON, I'M NOT

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE RUDY PEREZ.

>> LAST MEETING I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED AT ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON HOW YOU VOTED TO KEEP KRYSTAL AROUND WHEN SHE SAID SHE WOULD RESIGN. HERE SHE SAID, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU ARE YOU DRIVING TO HOUSTON AND THEN BACK TO HUTTO ON TAXPAYERS MONEY? AS A HUTTO CITIZEN AND A TAXPAYER, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD MOVE HUTTO FORWARD, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE MOVING HUTTO BACKWARDS.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU FIVE ARE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELVES AND NOT THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. I HOPE THE CITIZENS WILL VOTE THE RIGHT PERSONS FOR COUNCIL THAT WILL AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. AND PLEASE DO NOT STARE AT ME WHEN I'M DRINKING A BEER, IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

I KNOW YOU WERE FEELING GOOD AT THE BAR, BUT I FEEL THIS IS HARASSMENT BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL. I WANT TO ENJOY MYSELF AND LISTEN TO THE JUKEBOX. I WORK HARD LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HUTTO. LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT, GIVE THEM ALL A GOOD RAISE.

COUNCIL, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE STILL.

DO YOUR JOB, YOU ALL WERE SWORN IN TO TAKE IN THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. PLEASE DO THAT, THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE NICOLE CALDERON. >> DEFINITELY A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SEEMS OBVIOUS.

IF YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, YOU SHOULDN'T SERVE.

WHY RESIGN IF YOU'RE STILL HERE. I DON'T HAVE INSIDER INFORMATION LIKE SOME OF OTHER PEOPLE. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN THE EMAILS OR THE MEMOS RELEASED. AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT. Y'ALL AS A COUNCIL TALK ABOUT RELEASING EMAILS, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT, IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. THEN YOU SAY RELEASE THE MEMO LIKE IT'S JUST GOING TO POP OUT. THAT'S NOT HOW IT HAPPENS.

IT'S NOT POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. I REQUESTED THE INFORMATION 13 DAYS AGO AND I STILL DON'T HAVE IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT RESIDENCY OR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IF THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, IT SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL.

SO I DID WHAT I COULD DO, AND I QUESTIONED WHERE KRYSTAL KINSEY IS LIVING. HER HOUSE HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR OVER 30 DAYS, IT'S EMPTY. SO I WONDERED WHERE SHE'S GETTING HER MAIL SO I USED THE POST OFFICE IN THE WAY THAT I CAN, AND I ADDRESSED AN EMPTY ENVELOPE WITH HER NAME ON IT AND HER HUSBAND'S NAME ON IT AND I SENT IT IN THE MAIL.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? WHILE I WAS IN FACEBOOK JAIL AND COULD NOT RESPOND, I GOT A MESSAGE FROM KRYSTAL KINSEY'S HUSBAND, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S BENDING DOWN TO LOOK AT HER PHONE. HE SENT ME A MESSAGE, THERE IT IS. IT WAS A PICTURE OF IT AND IT SAID HE SENT THIS TO ME. GOT YOUR MAIL.

IF I SEE YOUR NAME AND ANYONE IN MY FAMILY'S NAME ON THE INTERNET, I WILL BE FILING FOR HARASSMENT AND FOR RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST YOU AND FOR MY WHOLE FAMILY.

USING THIS LETTER AND ALL OF THE SCREENSHOTS OF YOUR WORD ON THE INTERNET. NO RESPONSE IS NECESSARY.

YOUR SILENCE WILL CONFIRM YOU UNDERSTAND.

YOUR HUSBAND SENT THAT TO ME. YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT.

I CAN CRITICIZE YOU, I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT ABOUT YOU AND HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. AND IF YOU WONDER ABOUT THAT, THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CHECK WITH LEGAL.

AND FOR HIM TO SEND THAT TO ME GOES BACK TO WHY I EVER CAME UP TO THIS PODIUM? BULLYING, HARASSMENT, AND INTIMIDATION. I GOT IT FROM OTIS JONES.

NOW YOUR HUSBAND IS DOING THIS. DO YOU EVEN LIVE HERE? WHAT KIND OF -- ARE YOU DOING? I'M NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THIS.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE SILENT. I COULDN'T RESPOND.

YOU TELL YOUR HUSBAND TO BACK OFF ME OR I WILL TAKE ACTION.

I HOPE THAT'S CLEAR. AND ROBIN, YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY, OR YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TELL EVERYBODY WHAT MY BURNER ACCOUNTS ARE BECAUSE YOU CAME UP HERE AND MADE A COMMENT DURING COUNCIL COMMENTS THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT'S INCLUDED. YOU VIOLATED YOUR OFFICE BY DOING SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

YOU DON'T GET TO CALL OUT CITIZENS FROM THE DAIS.

AND I EXPECT AN APOLOGY FROM YOU.

THAT IS ALL. >> THANK YOU.

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NEXT WE HAVE SHERYL STEWART. >> GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING.

MY NAME IS SHERYL STEWART. SO THE FIRST COMMENT IS IN REGARDS TO THE MESSAGE BOARD. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IT'S THERE AND I LIKE THAT IT'S BEING USED BY THOSE OF YOU THAT ACTUALLY USE IT.

I FIND IT INSIGHTFUL AND I HOPE THAT IT WILL BE USED MORE FREQUENTLY BY THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT UTILIZED IT YET, SO THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE UTILIZING IT.

IN REGARDS TO COUNTY ROAD 199, I SUBMITTED A TRACKER REQUEST A FEW TIMES ON THE WEBSITE REGARDING THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH IT. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT HAPPENED TODAY.

THAT PRESENTATION WAS JUST THAT. IT WAS A PRESENTATION, IT WASN'T UP FOR DISCUSSION. IT WAS A PRESENTATION.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS ARE JUST THAT. AND THAT Y'ALL WHO ARE SO ADAMANT ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES FOLLOW THEM.

ANYWAY, I DIGRESS. SO 199, THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE WIDENED. WE ALREADY NEED THAT FOR OUR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC. I HOPE THAT THE TRAFFIC THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE FOR THE MEGA SITE CONSTRUCTION IS ALSO CONSIDERED WHEN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROAD.

WE NEED STREET LIGHTS ON 199. IT IS PITCH BLACK AT NIGHT AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A SAFETY HAZARD.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF THIS IS SOLUTIONED PRIOR TO THE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING TO THAT AREA.

HEARING THAT 1660 SOUTH HAS A COMPLETION DATE OF THE SECOND QUARTER 2025 IS REALLY DISCOURAGING.

THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY HAZARD FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE TURNING ON TO 199. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A BOX LIKE WE HAVE AT FRONT STREET AND JIM CAGE TO ALLOW FOR EASIER TURNING ON TO 1660 SOUTH IF YOU'RE TURNING IN EITHER DIRECTION. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET, IT'S LIKE PLAYING CHICKEN IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN ONTO 199 AND IT'S SCARY. THE CURRENT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE GETTING WORSE AND THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. ADDITIONALLY IN THE PAST I RECALL Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL HOUSING BEING BUILT OFF OF 199 JUST SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING HAPPEN YET SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A TRUE RECOLLECTION IF THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

BUT IN THE EVENT THAT IT IS, I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD CONSIDER MOVING THERE IF THERE ISN'T A QUIET ZONE. I AGREE THAT SOME PEOPLE DO ENJOY HEARING THE TRAIN, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO HEAR IT IF IT FEELS LIKE IT'S IN YOUR LIVING ROOM.

I LIVE IN CROSS CREEK, AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO LIVE CLOSER TO 199 THAN I DO THAT WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THE QUIET ZONE NOW. FINALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WASTEWATER ITEMS THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON, HOW CAN THOSE OF US WHO WILL HAVE THE MEGA SITE AS YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR BE ASSURED THAT OUR PLUMBING WILL NOT BE IMPACTED IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE THE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES ON EXISTING RESIDENTS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A MINIMAL IMPACT TO THOSE OF US IN COTTON BROOK AND CROSS CREEK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, I'VE BEEN ASKED IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS IF WE CAN MOVE ITEM 12.2 UP. REGARDING THE COMP PLAN.

[12.2. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on the Hutto Soar 2040 Comprehensive Plan and approving Ordinance No. O-2023-009 (First Reading) (Ashley Bailey) a. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2023-009 to dispense with the second reading pursuant to Hutto City Charter Article 3, Section 3.13 (Legal)]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CAN COUNCIL.

ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

THANKS FOR MOVING THIS UP, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE AND THEY HAVE DRIVEN IN AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THEM OUT BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT SAFE TRAVELS HOME. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.

DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A RECAP ON THE PRESENTATION YOU WANT FROM ME. IN YOUR PACKET YOU DID GET THE COMMENT RESPONSES. THEY WERE ALL NUMBERED.

I THINK WE GOT TO 113 RESPONSES. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THOSE.

AND THAT'S ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE ACTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A RECAP, THIS TOOK PLACE OVER ABOUT THE LAST 15 MONTHS. AND WE HAD THE COMP PLAN

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SO YOU HAVE THOSE IN THE PACKET AND THEN AGAIN YOU HAVE THAT FINAL DRAFT. THE ONLY THING I DON'T HAVE IS THE LETTER, BUT OF COURSE IF YOU'D LIKE WE CAN ACTUALLY JUST TAKE THAT PAGE OUT AS WELL. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER FROM COUNCIL OR ANYONE. IT DOESN'T MATTER, WE CAN JUST MAKE IT ESSENTIALLY 269 PAGES WITHOUT THE APPENDIX.

WE CAN GO ON THOSE LINE BY LINE, I DO HAVE THEM LOADED INTO THE OVERALL PRESENTATION. IF YOU WANT WE CAN JUST DO QUESTION AND ANSWER. ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

NOT SURE HOW YOU WANT. DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF

YOUR TIME UP TONIGHT WITH IT. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO PAGE BY PAGE? I SAW 483 PAGES.

I THINK YOU'VE SET THE RECORD FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF PACKET

THAT YOU OWN IN ONE DAY. >> THIS ISN'T THE WORST.

I'VE HAD WORSE. I THINK ONE TIME WE GOT TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE DIGITS IN 2018. SO I'M TRYING TO GO LIGHT ON YOU GUYS. SO YOU'RE WELCOME FOR THAT.

BUT CERTAINLY JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THIS REALLY IS JUST A GUIDING DOCUMENT. AND AS I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, I KNOW I ASKED FOR THIS, I THINK I ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR THIS FOR THREE YEARS.

THIS IS JUST A GUIDE, IT'S A TOOL, IT'S ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING AND TO LOOK AT HOW GROWTH IS GOING TO AFFECT HUTTO.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GROWING. RIGHT NOW THE MAJORITY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP JUST SHOWS GREEN OR AGRICULTURE, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT WE HAVE ON THAT EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

THIS JUST HELPS US PLAN FOR THE GROWTH THAT WE KNOW THAT IS INEVITABLY COMING. SO WITH THAT, IT'S REALLY ESSENTIALLY JUST A GUIDE FOR US. JUST WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT'S IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

THERE'S A MASSIVE CHAPTER AT THE END.

IT'S PROBABLY THE DRIEST OF THE CHAPTERS.

BUT ALSO THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST FUN FOR ME BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND CONTINUALLY HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SOMETHING THAT I SAID BACK WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GAVE THE FUNDING AND APPROVED THAT, WE WERE NOT ALL GOING TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING IN THIS.

THE CITIZENS AND EVERYBODY, IT WASN'T GOING TO BE IN A COMPLETE AGREEMENT LOCKSTEP. I THINK WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON WHAT HUTTO IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE END.

BUT ONE THING WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO LOOK AT IS WE WANTED TO BE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE AND FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, AND I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO THE MYRIAD OF USES IN EACH OF THOSE AREAS. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE DASHBOARDS, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ALL OF THE USES LISTED OUT.

SO YOU DON'T JUST SEE THOSE MULTIFAMILY AS ITS OWN CATEGORY REALLY. AND YOU DON'T JUST SEE SINGLE FAMILY AS ITS OWN CATEGORY, YOU SEE USES MIXED TOGETHER SO YOU HAVE THIS WALKABLE VILLAGE WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND YOU HAVE THOSE TEN MINUTE CITIES. WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.

>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> SO I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A COPY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN HERE. WAS THAT PART OF IT? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING PART OF THAT MAP.

>> IT IS. I'VE GOT MY OLD ONE, IT IS IN

HERE. >> OH THERE'S EXISTING LAND USE MAP. I SEE THAT.

OKAY. SO HOW DIFFERENT IS THIS FROM THE ORIGINAL? I FOUND IT.

>> VERY. SO IN 2017, THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME ACTUALLY TOOK OUT FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP I THINK THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2015 AND THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE PRETTY MUCH FROM 132. SO THE NORTH/SOUTH 132, THEY TOOK OUT ALL OF THE LAND USES AND JUST WENT BACK TO AG.

OTHER THAN THE MEGASITE PROPERTY.

SO THIS ADDS BACK IN EVERYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OCCUR AS WELL AS LAND USES AROUND THE SOUTHEAST LOOP.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES AS WELL IS THIS IS THE FINAL LOCATION FOR THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT THE SOUTHEAST LOOP, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A MORE SOUTHERN ROUTE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY FROM THAT 2012- 2015 FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT STILL DOES HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S GOT THE COMMERCIAL, IT'S GOT A LOT OF THE EMPLOYMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

CERTAINLY WORKING WITH OUR OWN INTERNAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE BEING ASKED, AND WHAT ARE THE USES THAT THEY'RE BEING REQUESTED TO

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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING? HEARING NONE, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:25 P.M. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE COMP PLAN.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:26.

OPEN IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR ACTION.

HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

>> COULD WE GO BACK? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON TO ACCEPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER

KINSEY. >> AND JUST TO REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT ASHLEY SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A PLAN, THIS IS NOT ENGRAVED IN STONE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT, I REALLY DON'T WANT THIS OR I REALLY WANT THIS. SO THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE WILL LOOK TO TO HELP GUIDE OUR DECISIONS AND DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES.

THIS IS CERTAINLY INTENDED I THINK TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT WHERE WE COULD ADJUST AS WE NEED TO.

SO TO ALLEVIATE ANY FEARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD EXACTLY AS IT'S IN HERE, THAT'S REALLY NOT REALISTIC.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE CAN KIND OF AS THINGS COME UP, TIE UP THE ITEM AND THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER TO THOSE ITEMS SO THAT WE SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND IT RELATES BACK. KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH THE CIP BUT WE'VE GOT THE USER NUMBER.

SO WHEN WE BRING UP DIFFERENT ITEMS SAY THIS IS LU11, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE PLANS.

>> 100%, I LOVE THAT IDEA. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK TO CITY MANAGER EARP ABOUT COMING BACK FORWARD AND GOING OVER THE IMPLEMENTATION MAYBE IN A WORK SESSION AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANY OF THESE AROUND, ARE WE GOOD WITH THIS JUST SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO DO THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER AT P&Z AS WELL AS TO CITY COUNCIL

WITH ALL OF THE STAFF REPORTS. >> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO START WORKING ON A TIMELINE FOR UPDATES.

>> AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE SCORECARD OF WHAT WE CAN DO WHETHER IT'S SHORT TERM, LONG TERM GOAL THAT WE WORKED ON AND SO AS WE GO IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT PRIOR TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN THEN START FUNDING THESE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING ON A FIVE YEAR HORIZON AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CHANGE OVER, THEY SEE WHAT WE DECIDED AND THEN THEY CAN HOPEFULLY CHOOSE CONTINUING ON. AT LEAST WE COULD BE WORKING

TOWARDS MILESTONES. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON. >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE SECOND READING TO THE NEXT MEETING AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BARRING SOMEONE ELSE HAVING SOMETHING TO SAY FROM THE PUBLIC UNLESS THERE'S A RUSH ACTION.

LIKE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK IF WE DID THAT, RIGHT?

WHAT'S THAT? >> NO.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THEM? >> NO, THEY WON'T HAVE TO COME

BACK. >> ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT FROM THE COUNCIL? HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE THE SECOND READING TO THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY AS A CONSENT

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

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10.4. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 10.8.

>> 10.8. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS WE'LL HAVE ITEMS 10.2, 10.3, 10.5, 10.6, AND 10.7 UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY PROVING ITEMS 10.2, 10.3, 10.5, 10.6, AND 10.7 AS PRESENTED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER --

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

MOTION PASSES 7-0. WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING OF ITEM 202-08 IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO

THAT. >> CAN WE ALSO DO SUSPEND THE SECOND READING OF 02023-010 AS WELL.

>> IF YOU MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I WANT TO ADD THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

WAIVING THE SECOND READINGS OF 02023-010, AND 0-2023-08.

WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> WHO WAS THAT? SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. >> AYE.

>> THAT WAS SEVEN, RIGHT? MOTION PASSES 7-0.

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ONE, I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC THANK YOU.

THE AGREEMENT WAS NOT BOILERPLATE.

I HATE WHEN THE AGREEMENTS COME UP AND PEOPLE JUST THROW IT IN.

THIS LOOKED LIKE THEY LOOKED AT IT.

BUT I WANTED TO VERIFY THIS IS FOR DESIGN ONLY NOT FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE SIDEWALKS.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS WILL THE DESIGN INCLUDE WHATEVER NEW SPEC WE DECIDE ON SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS WE DESIGN SOMETHING AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT TO BID AND THEN WE COME BACK AND SAY LET'S DO A CHANGE ORDER.

I'D RATHER IT BE DESIGNED RIGHT OR WRONG OR NOT AT ALL.

>> YEAH, IT WILL BE DESIGNED TO THE SPECS THAT WE APPROVE.

>> THAT WE'RE APPROVING TONIGHT? >> ARE THE SPECS IN THAT

ACTUAL -- YEAH, PLEASE. >> HOW ARE YOU?

>> WE DO INCLUDE BIDDING -- >> I'M SORRY IF YOU COULD STATE

YOUR NAME. >> I'M ANDREA BRIAN, THE DESIGN CONSULTANT FOR FREESE & NICHOLS. WE HAVE BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SO WE INCLUDE A PROJECT MANUAL WITH SPECIFICATIONS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE BIDDING STARTING UNTIL JUNE OF 23.

SO IF WE WHATEVER SPEC WE NEED TO PUT IN THERE IF WE HAVE THAT BY JUNE OF 23 WOULD NOT BE A CHANGE ORDER.

>> OKAY, SO THAT'S EASY JUST TO PUT HERE'S THE ROUTE AND HOWEVER DEEP OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO?

>> YEAH, WE'RE QUANTIFYING SIDEWALK, BUT WE CAN JUST KIND OF KEEP IT SQUARE AREA AND NOT DEPTH.

THAT KIND OF A THING. SO THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY

BEARING ON THE SPEC CHOSEN. >> OKAY.

>> SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 10.1 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON PROVING ITEM 10.1 AS PRES PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER.

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>> AYE. MOTION PASSES 7-0.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.4, PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING NOVEMBER 30, 2022. ONE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, WE REALLY DON'T NEED ACTION ON THIS, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING TO ACT ON, IS THERE?

>> YOU'RE JUST ACCEPTING THE REPORT SO WE GENERALLY HAVE PUT THE MONTHLY REPORTS ON THE CONSENT FOR IT'S JUST AVAILABLE, IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC. THEN A QUARTER OF THE REPORTS WE DO IN PRESENTATION FORMAT SO THAT'S EVERY QUARTER.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY ACTION IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE REPORT.

>> OKAY. AND I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THAT --

>> SHE'S LIKE DAY 11, NO PROBLEM.

I GOT THIS. >> I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY THEY

DID SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DID. >> SHE CRACKED ME UP BECAUSE SHE SAID IT'S LIKE DAY 13 AND MY FIRST FOUR DAYS WERE NORMAL, THE NEXT FOUR DAYS WE DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET, AND THE NEXT FOUR DAYS

THE CITY WAS FROZEN. >> THAT'S REALLY PAR FOR THE

COURSE. >> NOT TOO FAR OFF.

>> OKAY, I NOTICED ON THE SALES TAX GRAPH, THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE. AND I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I SAW THE LITTLE ASTERISK OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, THE LITTLE FOOTNOTE A THAT OCTOBER NOVEMBER AND OCTOBER ACTUALS WILL BE TRUED UP TO ACTUALS IN DECEMBER. 697 NOVEMBER IS TRUED UP TO JANUARY 2019. SO I KNOW IT SEEMED LIKE WE'D HAVE AN OCTOBER, BUT THE OCTOBER WAS REALLY LIKE AUGUST.

SO ARE YOU MAKING IT TO WHERE LIKE OCTOBER IS ACTUALLY OCTOBER

NOW? >> CORRECT.

SO FOR THE RECORD ANNE LAMERE, INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR.

SO FOR OCTOBER WE RECEIVE THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ACTUALLY PAID IN AUGUST. SO YOU'RE TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

SO IN OCTOBER, WE DON'T WANT TO NOT BOOK REVENUE, AND SO WE BOOK AN ESTIMATE. SO THE ESTIMATE THAT WAS BOOKED WAS $500,000. BUT WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THE ACTUAL AT THIS POINT, WE RECEIVED IT IN DECEMBER.

SO I JUST FOOTNOTED THAT WE BOOKED $500,000, BUT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED $700,000. SO WE WILL TRUE THAT UP AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE DECEMBER FINANCIALS.

>> OKAY, SO DECEMBER INSTEAD OF 508, IT WILL SAY 697 AND THEN INSTEAD OF 585 FOR NOVEMBER, IT WILL SAY 719.

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY.

>> AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GET BETTER AT OUR ESTIMATING

TOO. >> AND YOU HAVE THAT CORRECT IN

THE GRAPH UNDERNEATH IT. >> RIGHT.

>> PERSONALLY I LIKE THAT BETTER.

I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY WE COULDN'T JUST HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION FOR THE RIGHT MONTH. LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE IT WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE.

IT ALWAYS SEEMED TO CONFUSE SOME THAT OCTOBER IS REALLY AUGUST AND NOVEMBER IS REALLY SEPTEMBER.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT RIGHT.

I COULDN'T GET THIS PULLED UP EARLIER.

SO ENGINEERING, THERE'S STILL NO ENGINEERING MONEY BEING SPENT?

>> CORRECT. SO WE DID FOOTNOTE THAT ON PAGE 7. WHAT I'VE DONE IS TRIED TO GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM WHICH IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR INVOICES FROM GARVER. THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANYTHING FOR PAYMENT. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL ACCRUE NUMBER ONE SO THAT YOU WILL SEE EXPENSE WHEN YOU GET YOUR JANUARY FINANCIALS. WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE JANUARY BOOKS YET. WE HAVE CLOSED DECEMBER, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN DECEMBER, YOU WON'T HAVE ANYTHING BETTER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE HERE. I'M WORKING WITH MATT RECTOR AND ALSO WITH WADE BENTON FROM GARVER TO GET THOSE INVOICES IN.

>> HERE'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS WHOLE DEAL, I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AN OPEN ENDED CHECKBOOK.

AND WE PASSED A THING THAT WE'LL GET THESE MONTHLY UPDATES OUT OF THE ENGINEERING PEOPLE, IT WON'T BE THAT BAD.

THEN WE ENDED UP SPENDING $750,000, IT WAS LIKE HOLY COW.

NOW I THINK WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING.

>> RIGHT. >> SO IF IT HELPS THEM GET RESOLUTIONS OR GET INVOICES, I DON'T MIND PUTTING A RESOLUTION ON THAT WE CANCEL THEIR CONTRACT GOING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FULFILLING THEIR CONTRACT WE ASKED THEM TO DO WHICH WAS GIVE US, GARVER, GIVE US MONTHLY UPDATES.

IF THEY CAN'T INVOICE US AND I CAN'T TELL WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST COLLECTORS OF TAXPAYER MONEY IN

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I THINK WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THAT WHATEVER YOU CALL IT THE DELTA THAT'S LEFT, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THAT MONEY BASED ON THE WAY WE WERE SPENDING MONEY WITH GARVER LAST YEAR.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE REAL HAPPY IF THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT COMES UP IN TWO MONTHS WE'RE $200,000 OVER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE SPENDING.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPENDING IF PEOPLE AREN'T INVOICING US. SO IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS LIKE CIP PROJECTS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND NOT $1 MORE THIS YEAR ON ENGINEERING BECAUSE WE SPENT 1,000,250 LAST YEAR AND WE GOT NOTHING OUT OF IT BUT DELAYS AND EXCUSES WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE THINGS ENGINEERED ON TOP OF THE THINGS WE SPENT BEFORE FOR THE SAME PROJECT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. I DO KNOW HOW TO FIX IT.

IF I DON'T GET THE INVOICES, I CAN GO BACK TO THE CFO AT GARVER AND GET THE INFORMATION, AND AT LEAST BOOK AN ACCRUAL AND WORK WITH THEM TO GET THE INVOICES AND MAKE THE PAYMENT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH MAKING THE PAYMENT, BUT IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE INTERNAL CONTROLS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T EXCEED OUR BUDGET AND THAT WE DO THE THINGS THAT WE TOLD OUR CITIZENS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS THE INTENT THAT WE REPLACE GARVER WITH IN-HOUSE ENGINEERING.

AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT ALSO.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH HR AND HR HAS A PLAN WITH ENGINEERING AS TO WHAT POSITIONS THEY'RE GOING TO FILL.

AND THEY ARE INTERVIEWING FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

SO IT ALL FITS TOGETHER AS A PACKAGE, WE DO HAVE A PLAN, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE

NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON THAT. >> TO GO BACK TO THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER, ANYTIME WE GO FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES, I THINK WE ALWAYS NEED TO HAVE A CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT THAT'S A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. AND IT CAN BE THAT YOU HAVE TO INVOICE, YOU CAN'T ACCRUE ANYMORE THAN A MINIMUM OF SAY $200,000, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT AN INVOICE OTHERWISE WE'RE AT BREACH OF CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THAT OVERAGE.

THAT MAY NOT BE MONTHLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LIKE YOU PUT A RETAINER OUT. IT'S LIKE WE'RE HAVING A RETAINER FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES SO THEY CAN DRAW DOWN ON THAT, BUT THEY CAN'T GO TO THE NEXT UNTIL THEY SUBMIT AN INVOICE AGAIN. NOT NECESSARILY CANCELLING A CONTRACT, BUT CHANGING HOW, AND IF THAT'S AN AMENDMENT WE NEED TO DO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD THINK OF INSTEAD.

>> AGREED. I'LL PULL THEIR CONTRACT AND LOOK AT THE PAYMENT CLAUSE IN IT.

AND IF THERE'S NOT AN NTE, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS PUT THAT IN.

>> YEAH, YOU MIGHT CHECK WHAT OUR COUNCIL ACTION WAS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED THE CONTRACT ON, THEN THEY PROBABLY OUGHT TO FULFILL THAT PART.

>> THE THING I WOULD ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH UNIQUE TO GARVER, ONCE GARVER IS ENDED, WE WILL HAVE GARVER, FREES & NICHOLS RUNNING OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SCRS BUT THOSE WILL BE TRANSACTIONAL.

SCR COSTS THIS MUCH. WE WILL THEN HAVE FEES TO BRING TO COUNCIL THAT WE WILL ADOPT THAT WE WILL CHARGE THE DEVELOPER TO PAY TO HAVE THAT DONE AND IT WILL JUST BE A PASS THROUGH. SO WE'LL GO FROM THIS OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT TO A TRANSACTIONAL RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE ASK YOU TO RUN AN SCR, YOU CHARGE US X DOLLARS, THAT THEN BECOMES OUR FEE THAT WE CHARGE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY ASK TO RUN THE SCRS.

>> LASTLY ON ENGINEERING, THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY THAT I CAN'T SAY THIS WITH A STRAIGHT FACE, WE PAID THEM $500,000 TO REVIEW SITE PLANS. ARE THEY STILL REVIEWING SITE PLANS AND IS THAT SOMETHING, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S COSTING?

BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE -- >> YES.

>> ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR.

>> YES, THAT'S K FRIESE, THAT'S WHO IT IS.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING SITE PLANS.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE JOBS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN HOUSE.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THE ENGINEER TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PLAN REVIEWS, WE WILL BE HOUSING THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN HOUSE AND NOT SENDING THAT OUT. WITH THE EXCEPTION IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE REALLY BIG AND COMPLICATED, LIKE I USED THIS EXAMPLE LAST TIME, BUT LIKE A HOSPITAL.

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BUT FOR MOST OF ALL BUSINESSES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE REVIEWS IN HOUSE. AND THEN --

>> CAN WE GET HER COMPANY TO JUST ALSO INVOICE US MONTHLY?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT'S NOT SHOWING UP THAT ANY MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT.

>> FOR ENGINEERING? >> YEAH.

UNLESS I'M READING IT WRONG, ENGINEERING IS LIKE --

>> RIGHT. THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT ENGINEERING LINE. BUT THAT FREESE & NICHOLS CONTRACT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR SITE PLAN REVIEWS MIGHT BE UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND NOT ENGINEERING.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN THE BUDGET?

>> THAT MIGHT BE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL

SERVICES. >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT MIGHT

BE, NOT UNDER ENGINEERING. >> WHAT PAGE IS ON THAT?

>> IT'S RIGHT UNDER ENGINEERING, SAME PAGE.

>> PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. >> THAT'S NORMALLY WHERE YOU

FIND THAT COST. >> OKAY, SO WE SPENT $132,000 A MONTH, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL THEM.

THAT'S ALSO -- >> CORRECT.

>> PROBABLY SOMETHING TO DO WITH --

>> OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WE HAD.

>> IF WE COULD JUST CONFIRM THAT THOUGH, BUT I SUSPECT THAT'S

WHAT IT IS. >> I WILL CONFIRM THAT.

>> THANK YOU. TWO MORE THEN I'M DONE.

POLICE SEIZURE FUND. >> YES.

>> THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THIS FINANCIAL I DON'T THINK, BUT MAYBE 4, 5 MONTHS AGO I WANT TO SAY WE HAD A BUST, WE TOOK IN LIKE $20,000 SOMETHING IN CASH AND GUNS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF. BUT I REMEMBER HEARING WE GOT TO KEEP THE CASH. SO WHERE DOES THAT GO? DOES IT STAY IN A FUND SOMEWHERE, DOES IT GO STRAIGHT

TO GENERAL REVENUE? >> SEIZURE FUNDS IS WHAT HE'S

TALKING ABOUT. >> WELL WHAT HAPPENS FIRST IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANOTHER AGENCY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT OR IF IT WAS ALL HUTTO POLICE. BUT IF ANOTHER AGENCY IS INVOLVED, THEN THAT OTHER AGENCY MIGHT HAVE THOSE FUNDS.

OR THOSE FUNDS MIGHT END UP IN THE EVIDENCE ROOM AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN AT SOME POINT THOSE FUNDS WILL COME OVER TO FINANCE. AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESS TO HANDLE THOSE. THERE'S A NOTIFICATION PROCESS AND THEN IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THOSE FUNDS COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR IF THOSE FUNDS ARE UNCLAIMED, THEN IT'S POSSIBLE THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY.

SO I WILL WORK WITH JEFFREY YARBROUGH AND SEE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUST. DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT WHEN IT

WAS? >> I'LL GET YOU, BUT YEAH THERE WAS LIKE $24,000 IN CASH SITTING THERE.

I'D RATHER IT BE IN THE BANK ACCOUNT IF THAT'S THE WAY IT CAN

GO. >> THERE WAS PROBABLY ANOTHER AGENCY INVOLVED AND GENERALLY THAT OTHER AGENCY ENDS UP WITH THE MONEY FIRST AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO THE CITY.

BUT I WILL WORK WITH JEFFREY YARBROUGH AND MAKE SURE THOSE FUNDS ARE HANDLING PROPERLY FOR SEIZURE.

>> AND THE LAST ONE WAS THE CLERK IMPROVEMENT FUND.

SO I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT DURING THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUDGET TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT NOW IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, I APOLOGIZE I'M TRYING TO

FIND IT. >> ARE YOU ON PAGE TEN?

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE? >> SO WE DIDN'T BUDGET ANY MONEY AND I REMEMBER GOING WE'VE GOT LIKE 2 POINT SOMETHING MILLION WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT ON THE PARKS.

THEN ALL OF SUDDEN NOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY.

WE SPENT ALMOST $100,000, I FORGOT WHAT THE REASON WAS WE SPENT THE $15,000 LAST MONTH, BUT NOW WE SPENT ANOTHER IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT ANOTHER $82,000 AND IT'S GOT ME A LITTLE CONCERNED SINCE WE DIDN'T BUDGET ANYTHING AND WE'RE SPENDING MONEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO.

BUT IF WE CAN HAVE LIKE AN EMAIL COME OUT TO US, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CALL ME OR NOTHING, BUT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IT WAS, PERSONAL OPINION WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON GOOD THINGS BUT MY GUESS IS WE JUST DON'T BUDGET WELL.

SO WE JUST HAVE A CHUNK OF MONEY, WE JUST DO WHATEVER.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US AS A CITY DO LIKE A LOT OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES DO WHERE YOU BUDGET YOU'RE GOING TO SANDBLAST A PAVILION AND REPAINT IT AND THAT'S GOING TO COST $20,000 AND YOU BUDGET THAT SO THEN WHEN WE DO A BUDGET WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS HOLD A CITY MANAGER ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET, IF I SAY YOU'RE PAYING THE PAVILION AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND HE DIDN'T GET IT DONE, I WANT TO SAY WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT? BUT IF IT'S NOT EVER IN THERE, WE CAN'T GIVE HIM KUDOS FOR GETTING STUFF DONE AND WE CAN'T HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHATEVER. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POPPED UP. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT'S ALL I SAW. AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR FINANCES

ARE DECENT. >> YOU ARE DOING WELL ON YOUR FINANCES. AND IN NOVEMBER, THE FUNDS WERE

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THE CITY. >> SO MY ONE QUESTION, I BROUGHT IT UP LAST MONTH OR YEAH, I GUESS IT WAS LAST MONTH, WE'RE NOW FEBRUARY. ABOUT FINDING OUT THAT MINIMUM VALUE WE NEED TO HAVE IN OUR BANK DEPOSITS VERSUS PUTTING STUFF IN OUR OTHER ACCOUNTS THAT ARE EARNING 3.73% INSTEAD OF THE .05%-YEAR-OLD SO WE'VE GOT $13 MILLION SITTING AND ACCRUING BASICALLY NOTHING. OR 15 MILLION ACCORDING TO THIS.

>> I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT.

IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 19 AND YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTNOTE IN THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY, $8 MILLION WAS TRANSFERRED OUT OF THAT WELLS FARGO ACCOUNT WHICH EARNS 0, INTO TEXSTAR.

AND I BELIEVE THAT $8 MILLION WAS THE RIGHT AMOUNT BECAUSE IN FEBRUARY WE MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF BOND PAYMENTS.

ABOUT $4.5 MILLION IN BOND PAYMENTS WERE MADE IN FEBRUARY.

SO WE NEEDED SOME OF THAT CASH FOR OPERATING.

SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CURRENTLY IN YOUR FINANCIAL REPORT, YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FINANCIAL STRATEGY IN YOUR FINANCIAL REPORT.

SO IN TALKING WITH JAMES WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS PRESENT A FINANCIAL STRATEGY AND NORMALLY WE DO THAT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

AND BRING TO YOU A STRATEGY FOR INVESTING.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY IN THE ECONOMY AND WITH THE FED, THEY'RE INCREASING THE FEDERAL RATE. AND CURRENTLY YOU CAN MAKE MORE BY INVESTING IN T-BILLS THAN YOU CAN MAKE IN THESE FUNDS.

SO THAT'S THE STRATEGY THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, GIVE YOU A DIAGRAM OF WHAT OUR CASH FLOW PROJECTION IS, HOW MUCH WE NEED TO HOLD IN OPERATING, AND HOW MUCH WE NEED TO HOLD FOR INVESTMENT STRATEGIES HERE.

AND PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IN INCREASED INVESTMENT REVENUE IF WE DID SOME TYPE OF AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY THAT WAS DIFFERENT. SO MY FOCUS CURRENTLY IS TO GET THE NOVEMBER BOOKS CLOSED. DECEMBER WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED THIS PAST MONDAY AND THEN WE'RE IN CLOSE FOR JANUARY.

SO I OWE YOU AN INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE END OF DECEMBER WHICH I WILL BRING TO YOU WITH AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING. PARDON?

>> CAN YOU MOVE TO HUTTO? >> NO, SORRY.

>> MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE A WORK SESSION ITEM INSTEAD OF FOR THE

-- >> INVESTMENT STRATEGY?

>> I MEAN SURE. FRANKLY IT'S VERY, VERY DOWN IN THE WEEDS. Y'ALL JUST NEED TO SET WE WANT AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY, WE WANT TO GENERATE BETTER REVENUE WITH OUR RESERVES, BECAUSE BEYOND THAT IT'S WHICH TIER YOU PUT THINGS IN, HOW OFTEN THINGS TURNOVER, WHAT'S YOUR CASH FLOW MATCH UP. THAT'S MORE ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DISCOURSE ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD USE THREE YEAR T-BILLS OR SIX MONTH -- THE ONE THING I WILL SAY BECAUSE ANNE BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME LAST WEEK, AND SHE PROBABLY FORGETS, I USED TO BE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

SO I USED TO DO THIS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES TIERING THEIR CASH RESERVES TO MATCH THEIR CASH FLOWS TO MAXIMIZE RETURNS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO IN CITIES TOO. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CASH FLOW IN ORDER TO DO THOSE TYPES OF STRATEGIES TO THEIR BEST. YOU CAN DO BIG CHUNKS AND JUST PUT MONEY ASIDE, BUT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WHERE IT'S TIERED AND YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE THINGS COMING MATURE TO MAXIMIZE YOUR LIQUIDITY, THAT TAKES SOME EFFORT AND A LOT OF DATA.

AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, OUR STRATEGY AT THE LEADERSHIP TEAM IS TURNING THE BASICS BASIC AGAIN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE REALLY BASIC.

THAT'S ADVANCED, GRANTED. BUT HAVING AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY IS A BASIC THING THAT A CITY OUGHT TO BE DOING.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE TYPES OF STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

SO CASH FLOWS WE NEED TO KNOW, AND HERE'S WHY.

THE $6 MILLION THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION, THAT WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE IF WE HAD PUT THAT OVER INTO T-BILLS BECAUSE YOU GET A PENALTY THEN TO TAKE IT OUT.

SO IT MATTERS ON YOUR CASH FLOW PROJECTIONS AND WHAT STRATEGIES

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>> BUT FROM THAT, IF WE DECIDE TO GO SAY 40% RESERVE, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND SAY WE WANT 20% OF THAT RESERVE STASHED AWAY ON LIKE SOMETHING WE SHOULD NEVER, EVER TOUCH.

BUT THEN WE WANT THE OTHER 20% TO GO TO A FUND FROM Q4 IN OUR FISCAL YEAR. OR Q1 IN OUR FISCAL YEAR WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR TO START.

>> YEAH, WHAT YOU DO IS YOU BASICALLY BREAK IT UP INTO 12THS AND YOU BUY 1/12 OF THAT FUND EVERY MONTH FOR A YEAR.

SO ONCE IT STARTS MATURING EVERY MONTH YOU GET 1/12 OF IT BACK.

YOU CAN DO THAT OR SPLIT IT UP TO WHERE IT'S NOT A YEARLONG TO WHERE IT'S ALL COMPRESSED DOWN TO EVERY 90 DAYS, THE WHOLE THING IS TURNING OVER. THAT'S THE STUFF THAT YOU CAN DO WITH LADDERING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

>> RIGHT, A LADDERED STRATEGY WHERE YOU PUT A PORTION OF YOUR MONEY IN SAY SIX MONTH T-BILL OR A PORTION IN ONE YEAR OR TWO YEAR T-BILLS SO THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE MONEY THAT'S MATURING SO IF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION ARISES, YOU'LL HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. PLUS YOU DON'T PUT ALL OF YOUR MONEY IN T-BILLS. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME AVAILABLE, YOU WOULD PUT YOUR OPERATING MONEY IN YOUR OPERATING ACCOUNT LIKE WELLS FARGO EARNING 0% INTEREST.

BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE MONEY IN TEXSTAR, SOME OF THESE FUNDS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY TO IT.

YOU WOULD EARN A SLIGHTLY LOWER RATE FOR IT, BUT YOU NEED THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO PULL MONEY OUT FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. SIMILAR TO THE $6 MILLION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

SO YOU WOULD NEVER TAKE ALL OF IT AND PUT IT IN T-BILLS.

ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE YIELD CURVE CURRENTLY, IT'S INVERSE. SO THAT IF YOU TOOK YOUR MONEY AND INVESTED IT IN 20 YEAR INSTRUMENTS WHICH I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND FOR A CITY. BUT IF YOU DID, YOU MIGHT EARN 3% TODAY. BUT IF YOU TAKE IT AND INVEST IT IN A SIX MONTH OR ONE YEAR T-BILL, YOU'RE GOING TO EARN ABOUT 4.5%, A MUCH HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THE YIELD CURVE IS INVERSE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU PREPARE YOUR STRATEGY IS THE YIELD CURVE AND DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY. AND THAT'S WHY YOU CALL IT AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY. AND THAT'S WHY YOU ALSO HAVE THE LADDERING, THAT'S PART OF YOUR STRATEGY SO THAT YOU HAVE MONEY THAT MATURES AT DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, TWO YEARS. YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO INVEST IN ANYTHING GREATER THAN TWO YEARS AT THIS POINT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH GROWTH GOING ON IN THE CITY AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON ROADS, WATER, AND

WASTEWATER PROJECTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT AS PRESENTED.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

>> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON ACCEPTING THE FINANCIAL REPORT AS PRESENTED.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> AYE.

[10.8]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.8, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO.

O-2023-011, AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 1, 2022, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2023, BY APPROPRIATING AND SETTING ASIDE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6 MILLION FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> SO THE REASON I WANTED THIS PULLED IS THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION GOING ON FOR MONTHS THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN HAVING ALONG WITH THE EDC AND THE CDC. AND I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE $6 MILLION OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND AND WHAT THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS AND JUST KIND OF LIKE WHY WE'RE IN A POSITION WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY WHAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I THINK THE CITIZENS AND THE TAXPAYERS DESERVE TO KNOW WHERE $6 MILLION IS GOING TO GO.

>> I KNOW I'VE SEEN A LOT ON SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SOCIAL MEDIA. WE POSTED A LOT OF IT ALREADY.

BEN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN SHARE THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN SHARED OUT THERE OR THAT WE CAN SAY UP HERE?

>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S BEEN SHARED ALREADY VIA SOCIAL MEDIA ON THE COUNCIL. BUT I THINK YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK TO THE CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR YOUR ACTION ITEMS OUT OF

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CERTAINLY ALSO PUBLICLY THERE WAS A MEETING BEFORE THIS MEETING, A JOINT MEETING OF THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ON SIMILAR ITEMS. SO I THINK YOU CAN SPEAK TO

THOSE. >> I THINK ITEM 14.6 ADDRESSES THIS VERY DIRECTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY THE $6 MILLION AND WHAT IT'S FOR. SO I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS IT WHEN WE'VE GOT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS.

>> SO MAYBE MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE 10.8 AFTER 14.6?

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THIS PROCEDURALLY DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS VOTE FIRST BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE?

>> I THINK SO. >> WE PUT A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE AND CONTRARY TO POPULAR OPINION, NOT EVERYBODY LIVES AND BREATHES ON FACEBOOK. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SITUATIONS AND CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE FORCED TO BE PUT IN THE PUBLIC BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ONE FROM THE DAIS. AND I FIND THAT CONCERNING.

I FIND THAT THE EVERYDAY CITIZEN MAY NOT KNOW WE LOST A LAWSUIT, THAT WE HAVE A JUDGMENT AGAINST US BECAUSE THE MAYOR DOESN'T PUT

THAT ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ARE APPEALING A LAWSUIT THAT WE'VE WON IN FEDERAL COURT THROUGH NEW ORLEANS WE WON THIS LAWSUIT IN FEDERAL COURT. WE WON, AND THAT WAS AFTER WE WON IN FEDERAL COURT, AND I SHOULD RESTATE THEN THEY APPEALED THE DECISION AT THE U.S. COURT OF APPEALS.

HUTTO WON THAT. THEY CHOSE NOT TO APPEAL TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAD SUCH A BANG UP REASON. THEY WENT TO DISTRICT COURT.

WE DIDN'T WIN IN DISTRICT COURT. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO APPEAL AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE $6 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE IS THE ACTION NECESSARY TO BUDGET FUNDS FROM THE CITY'S UNRESERVED GENERAL FUND BALANCE FOR THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND SO I THINK THIS IS MONEY THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE EDC IN PURCHASING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND IN HUTTO.

>> SO IT'S NOT GOING TO SETTLE THE JUDGMENT?

>> I THINK IT'S HOW YOU CUT IT. I THINK IN MY MIND IT'S GOING TO SETTLE A JUDGMENT, IT'S GOING TO PURCHASE THE LAND.

ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WILL GET THE MONEY AND THEY MAY BE SETTLING A JUDGMENT. BUT THIS 6 MILLION IS GOING FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND FROM THE EDC.

THE EDC DOESN'T OWE MONEY IN THE JUDGMENT.

>> AND THE EDC WILL BE PAYING THIS MONEY BACK.

>> IT'S A SHELL GAME TO ME. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'LL PUT THE LITTLEST THINGS OUT THERE THAT LET'S SAY A COUNCIL MEMBER LIKE ME WOULD SAY UP HERE AND MAKE A HUGE TO DO ABOUT IT, BUT YET WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS IN

REAL TERMS. >> SO I WAS JUST MADE AWARE THAT COMMUNICATIONS HAS A PRESS RELEASE THAT'S PREPARED TO GO

OUT AT 9:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING. >> OKAY.

>> THAT ADDRESSES THESE ISSUES PENDING THE COUNCIL TAKING THESE ACTIONS TONIGHT. SO IT SHOULD ADDRESS MOST OF YOUR CONCERNS, I HAVEN'T READ IT SO I CAN'T SAY.

>> I THINK THE CONCERN FOR ME IS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON THIS AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT FOR MONTHS, CORRECT? LATE NIGHTS MAKING VERY BIG DECISIONS AT THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING UNDER FATIGUE AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT, WE'RE NOT GIVING CITIZENS A CHANCE TO KHOUM AND SPEAK AT THE PODIUM WHETHER THEY WANT US TO DO IT OR NOT -- CHANCE TO COME UP AND SPEAK AT THE PODIUM WHETHER THEY WANT US TO DO IT OR NOT.

THAT'S THE POINT I'M GETTING AT. I KNOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

I JUST THINK IT'S BEEN UNFAIR TO THE TAXPAYER AND NOT TRANSPARENT FOR THEM TO KNOW FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE LAST TWO MONTHS WITH THIS LAND AND WHY WE'RE GOING TO

DRAIN OUR GENERAL FUND THIS WAY. >> WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCLOSE TO HELP BRING THE TRANSPARENCY OUT?

>> I HAVE A SUGGESTION, SORRY TO INTERJECT.

MAYBE WE CAN MOVE 10.8 TO BE BEFORE 14.1? THAT WAY LEGAL CAN BE ASKED WHAT EXACTLY CAN BE DISCLOSED VERSUS US ACCIDENTALLY PUTTING OUR FOOT IN OUR OWN MOUTH.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I THINK ALSO WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF US AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK THAT THE INTENT OF SOME OF THE RESOLUTIONS AND SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS WILL MAKE SOME OF THAT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR WHETHER

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I ALWAYS WANT TO DISCLOSE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE CITY'S INTEREST

AT THE SAME TIME. >> SO SAFE TO SAY THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO MOVING 10.8 INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> OR TO JUST MOVE IT TO AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> MOVE IT TO AFTER RIGHT BEFORE 14.1.

>> SO WE'LL TABLE IT FOR LATER IN THE MEETING.

[11.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution R-2023-021, a Resolution approving the appointment of William Zito Jr. as the Emergency Management Coordinator for the City of Hutto, Texas (City Manager James Earp)]

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2023-021.

A RESOLUTION PROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM ZITO JR.

AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS. MAY I SAY IT SHOULD SCARE PEOPLE THAT ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR -- I'M GLAD BILL IS COMING ON BOARD HOPEFULLY WITH THIS VOTE.

>> YEAH, I THINK THE ITEM IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

NOW THAT WE'VE HIRED A VERY QUALIFIED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, WE'RE ASKING FOR HIM TO BE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS SUCH. IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.

THE FORMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLED OUT AND SIGNED BY THE MAYOR APPOINTING HIM. SO THIS IS THE RESOLUTION DOING

THE SAME. >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT

11.1 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THAT.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY GLAD TO BE PASSING THAT OFF AT LEAST

A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH.

IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY IT'S REALLY SCARY THE POWERS THE MAYOR HAS. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER GORDON. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> AYE.

[11.2. Consideration and possible action regarding the adoption of Resolution R-2023-022, providing an interpretation for the meaning of residing within the City of Hutto, Texas, related to Hutto City Charter Sections 3.02 and 3.06(b)(1). (Mayor Snyder)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R-2023-022, PROVIDING AN INTERPRETATION FOR THE MEANING OF RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS RELATED TO HUTTO CITY CHARTER SECTIONS 3.02 AND 3.06B1.

>> SO I LOOKED AT THE RESOLUTION, IF WE VOTE ON THIS ONE IT MAKES IT IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE JUST PASSED EARLIER ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.

[12.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS, AND/OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS, AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.

>> SO I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS AS PART OF THE WE HAVEN'T MET FORMALLY AS A GROUP YET, BUT WE DID REQUEST TO GET THE LIST.

I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT GETTING OUR NEW EMERGENCY SERVICES DIRECTOR COORDINATED FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES TASK FORCE. SO THAT PROCESS IS GOING FORWARD AS WELL. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY NOT -- ANYONE WHO SERVES ON P&Z FROM BEING ON -- WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE VACANCY OF A MEMBER OF ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SO WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE IN FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HAVE THREE ALTERNATES WE CAN APPOINT CURRENTLY.

TWO OF THEM ARE ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE FOUR OPEN SPOTS FOR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE CITY FOR

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SO PLEASE REPORT THAT AND THEN THE NEXT THING I'M GOING TO DO IS GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND GET WHAT SEATS ARE VACANT ACROSS ALL BOARDS AND WHO IS GOING TO BE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN JUNE.

AND SO THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO THOSE CHAIRMANS OF THE

DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. >> CHAIRPERSONS.

>> CHAIRPERSONS AND FIND OUT, SORRY I WAS LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT TERM, AND FIND OUT IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WANT TO AUTOMATICALLY BE CONSIDERED FOR REUP WHEN THEIR TERM WAS EXPIRED IN JUNE SO WE CAN GET THAT IN PLACE OR NOT LET THE PEOPLE KNOW HEY SUBMIT YOUR RESUMES BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE

COMING ON POTENTIALLY. >> SO ZBA VACANCY, WE HAVE QUITE

A FEW. >> FOUR.

AND THEN ONE ON -- >> YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE ZBA PEOPLE ON THE P&Z?

>> THERE'S A RISK WE SHOULD POSSIBLY NOT DO IT IF THEY NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES IF IT CAME UP TO THAT, THEY COULD.

BUT RIGHT NOW IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD PROBABLY THEY WOULDN'T BE, POTENTIALLY ONE OTHER PERSON COULDN'T ATTEND, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING NOT TO REMOVE IT TODAY. I WANT TO GET FOUR PEOPLE AND REMOVE AND REPLACE AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE I CONFIRMED WITH ASHLEY ABOUT THAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE CITY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF WE NEED TO DO SO.

THAT'S WHAT I HAD ON THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 12.1? MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.3, DISCUSSION

[12.3. Discussion and Possible Action on Financial Reserve Requirement Limits (Councilmember Clark, Mayor Pro Tem Gordon)]

>> SO THIS IS ONE THAT ONCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING OUT THE 6 MILLION AND THEN WE HAD ASKED FOR AN OPINION ABOUT FINANCIALS FROM THE BOND COUNCIL, THEY CAME OUT WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SHOULD T POTENTIALLY WE'LL BE RELEASING 6 MILLION OF THAT TO GO TO THE EDC.

WHICH WOULD LEAVE US $3 MILLION. WE DO HAVE ROUGHLY $2.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN BOND MONEY TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND.

IF WE DO THAT, THAT GETS US TO 5.5 MILLION.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A RESERVE REQUIREMENT OF 20% BASED ON OUR FINANCIAL POLICY, NOT THE CHARTER, THE FINANCIAL POLICY, AS OF HOW OUR BUDGET IS SET TODAY, EVERY 10% WE STEP UP, THAT'S ABOUT 2.4 MILLION WE WOULD NEED TO ADD TO THAT

RESERVE. >> EVERY WHAT STEP UP?

>> EVERY 10% WOULD BE $2.4 MILLION ROUGHLY IN CURRENT

BUDGET SIZE. >> AND OF COURSE AS YOUR BUDGET GROWS, THAT NUMBER GETS BIGGER. SO IF WE WENT TO 30%, IF WE REIMBURSED OURSELVES THE $2.5 MILLION IN BOND MONEY, WE WOULD HAVE 3.1 MILLION OF EXTRA MONEY UNALLOCATED MONEY ABOVE THE 30%. IF WE WENT TO 40% WE WOULD HAVE ROUGHLY $37,000 ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 40%.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE $6 MILLION THAT WE WILL BE GETTING BACK FROM THE EDC HOPEFULLY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND SO FOR ME I'M COMFORTABLE GOING TO 40. EVEN THOUGH THAT WILL LEAVE US $700,000, IT'S ABOVE 40% NOT 20%.

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THAT'S KIND OF BEEN MY THINKING BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN UNCOMFORTABLE HAVING TO DO THAT PLAN OF GIVING THE $6 MILLION TO THE EDC TO DO THIS WHOLE DEAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT LATER. I KNOW MY FEELING IS IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT THIS KIND OF PUTS US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE FROM THE MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED FROM HILLTOP SECURITIES, THEY SAID THAT OUR RESERVE OF 20% IS VERY LOW COMPARED TO THE MEDIAN OF 42% OF DOUBLE A MINUS RATED TEXAS MUNICIPALITIES.

SO THE MEDIAN FOR SIMILAR CITIES FOR US IS 42% AND WE SCORE A FIVE ACCORDING TO THE CREDIT SCORING MATRIX.

THE SOONER WE CAN GET TO 40%, THE BETTER.

I THINK ONCE WE GET THE $6 MILLION BACK, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF EXTRA TO USE FOR EMERGENCIES.

I'D BE OKAY WITH 30%. I WANT TO GO UP BUT I'M ALSO

COMFORTABLE WITH 40%. >> SO I POSTED ON THE FORUM ABOUT THIS WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS COMING AT THAT TIME. AND I'M ON BOARD WITH GETTING TO 40%. I'M ON BOARD WITH PUTTING US ON SOME SORT OF AUTOPILOT TO GET THERE.

BUT LEAVING US ONLY $700,000 AWAY FROM VIOLATING WHAT WE JUST SET, THAT'S A BAD LOOK. IF ONE THING HAPPENS WE'RE VIOLATING IT. SO IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO 40%, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE AT 38%, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO 30% AND YOU'RE HOPEFULLY HOLDING 40% BUT IT SLIPS TO 38% THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY A PROBLEM FOR YOUR POLICY. AND THEN WHEN THE 6 MILLION COMES BACK, YOU'VE GOT PLENTY TO THEN SAY NOW WE'RE DEFINITELY

GOING TO 40% AT THAT POINT. >> IF WE DID THE 40% ONCE WE GOT THE 6 MILLION BACK I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I'M LESS COMFORTABLE TAKING A STAIR STEP APPROACH OVER YEARS.

>> BUT IS THAT GOING TO BE THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, IS THAT GOING TO BE NINE MONTHS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING

TO BE, RIGHT? >> BUT IF WE HAD THE RESOLUTION THAT SAID 30% FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE SET OUR BUDGET WHEN WE TECHNICALLY HAD A 20% RESERVE.

WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT TO 30 AND THEN ADDITIONALLY SAY AND FOR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE WE HAVE TO BE AT 40 WHICH THAT THEN GUIDES WHAT YOU SET FOR THE BUDGET.

>> THAT'S EIGHT MONTHS AWAY. >> I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT AND I COULDN'T DECIDE BETWEEN 2025 BEING 45% OR 50%.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO ABOVE 50%. I THINK YOU STAIR STEP IT 20% A YEAR, BUT YOU STEP IT THAT WAY SO THAT YOU DON'T GET WHAT COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON SAID POTENTIALLY AN ISSUE WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

HERE'S THE ONE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE $700,000 NOT TO GET BACK ON THE ENGINEERING DEAL, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE BILLS ARE. IF WE BUDGET 1 MILLION AND THEY COME OUT 1.5 MILLION, NOW YOU'VE GOT A CUSHION.

AND WE WENT OVER ON EQUIPMENT ON A BACKHOE AND STUFF.

AT LEAST THAT WAY WE CAN BUDGET IT AND IT'S ALREADY WRITTEN THERE. THE NEXT COUNCIL, NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, DEPENDING ON WHO'S HERE, EVERYBODY CAN GO BACK TO THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO DO 40 AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER CAN START PLANNING FOR 40 ALSO BECAUSE WE MAY GET OUR ROADS ASSESSMENT BACK AND MAY WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEND SOME THIS YEAR WHEN WE GET THE $6 MILLION BACK AND GO LET'S GO AHEAD AND KNOCK OUT SOME ROAD REPAVING. BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT, 30% FOR 2023. THESE ARE FISCAL YEARS, 40% FOR

2024 THEN 50% FOR 2025. >> I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT IF THE

40% WAS THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> I'M ALL FOR EXPANDING OUR RESERVES AND GROWING THEM. WE SHOULD TAKE A SMALL BITE INITIALLY TO SEE HOW THAT GOES. KIND OF WAITING ON TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE MARKET VALUES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT KIND OF HAPPENS THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT ALSO OUR CITY IS GROWING.

OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT NEEDS MORE FUNDING, DEFINITELY THE PD, WE ARE HIRING MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD MAYBE OUR BUDGET FOR THAT IS GOING TO TRIPLE THIS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE HIRING, WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE AND THEY'RE COMING ON BOARD SO I'D RATHER HAVE THAT MONEY TO

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HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE DEPENDING ON THE INVOICES.

BUT IN MY OPINION I WOULD SAY NO MORE THAN 25 JUST TO PLAY IT SAFE TO SEE HOW WE DO AS CITY MANAGER EARP IS IMPLEMENTING NEW CHANGES, BEING MORE INVOLVED WITH GETTING THE CITY UP AND RUNNING AND FUNCTIONING, AND PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS AND AS WE GROW, AS BUSINESSES WANT TO COME HERE AND OPERATE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

SO I'D RATHER HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE INITIALLY AS OPPOSED TO BEING PUT IN RESERVES. I AM FORECASTING THAT AS WE SEE FUTURE PROPERTY VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

>> I THINK I'M KIND OF MORE IN ALIGNMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I MEAN 30% AND 40%, YEAH THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT TO GET THERE BY NEXT YEAR WITH ALL OF THESE BIG LOOMING PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ALMOST EVERYTHING WITH THE COST, IT'S WAY ABOVE WHAT WE BUDGETED, WE'RE ALREADY EATING INTO THAT.

SO FOR ME, I THINK I'M KIND OF MORE LIKE A 5%, MAYBE 7.5% JUST TO SEE WHERE THAT ACTUALLY GOES, WHERE IT LEAVES US.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS IN DISAGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO GROW AT 20% AS PETER WONDERFULLY ILLUSTRATED IT'S NOT GOOD AND NOT GOOD FOR THE CREDIT RATING. BUT I'M ALSO WORRIED AS WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE CITY AND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND ALL OF THESE STUDIES ARE GETTING READY TO COME OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY. SO I MEAN I THINK THAT THOSE SOUND LIKE GREAT IDEAS. I JUST THINK THAT THE STAIRS BEING SET AT 10% HAVE A LITTLE STEEP.

SO FOR ME I THINK I'D RATHER SEE 5%, 7.5% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OR MAYBE REVISIT IT, SPLIT THE BABY, DO 7.5% AND REEVALUATE THE NEXT YEAR. SEVERAL PEOPLE UP HERE WILL

STILL BE ON COUNCIL. >> I THINK AFTER LAST WEEK'S EXPERIENCE WITH THE WATER LINE BREAK, IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT GO 10%, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. I SHOULDN'T SAY A LITTLE.

WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE IT TOO MUCH AND LIMIT JAMES' ABILITY TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE BECAUSE WE ARE IDENTIFYING THINGS AS WE GO THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON.

I'M I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THE 10%.

I DON'T KNOW THAT A 10% INCREASE NOW, BUT GOING ANOTHER 10% FOR THE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE MAYBE 5%, SEE HOW THINGS GO BEFORE WE RAISE IT AND JUST HAVE THE GOAL IN MIND TO GET TO 40% FOR NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. SO MAYBE BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE TO SEE HOW THIS YEAR PANS OUT, HOW THINGS GO.

I'M GOOD WITH THE TEN FOR NOW. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A CHANGE TO THE FINANCIAL POLICY LET'S SAY THAT BRINGS THE MINIMUM RESERVES TO 30% FOR 2023, 40% FOR 2024, 45% FOR 2025, AND 50% FOR 2026.

I'M TRYING TO SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE A LITTLE BIT.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MOTION BY MAYOR SNYDER, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON.

THE REASON I SET IT UP THAT WAY IS BECAUSE WE CAN HIT THE 40% TODAY AND NOT HAVE MUCH MONEY NEXT YEAR OR HAVE MORE MONEY THAT COMES IN. SO I DON'T SEE 40% NEXT YEAR BEING A PROBLEM. AND I DO AGREE THERE'S EXPENSES COMING UP IN THE FUTURE SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OUT THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD GOAL TO HAVE AND IF WE COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND THE WORLD WENT TERRIBLY WRONG, WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST THIS POLICY BACK, BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES US

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SO THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THAT.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT MOTION AND THE TIMELINE?

>> 30% FOR 2023. 40% FOR 2024.

45% FOR 2025. AND 50% FOR 2026.

THESE ARE ALL FISCAL YEARS. >> THE ONLY CHANGE I'D LIKE TO POSSIBLY LOOK WOULD BE NOT PUT THE 2026 ON THERE.

EVERYTHING ELSE I'M OKAY WITH. BECAUSE THAT'S SO FAR OUT THAT THAT'S EVEN PAST ANYONE HERE ON COUNCIL BEING ON COUNCIL.

>> YES YOU'RE MAKING IT ASPIRATIONAL TO GET TO NO NEW

REVENUE THOUGH. >> I'VE GOT A GOAL THAT WE DON'T PUT TAXES ON PEOPLE. WE MAY NEVER GET THERE, BUT I'VE GOT A GOAL. I'VE SHARED THAT WITH YOU HOW

MANY TIMES? >> AT LEAST ONCE.

>> I'D BE IN FAVOR OF TAKING 2026.

IT'S THE AVERAGE FOR OUR SIZE CITY IS 42%.

I MEAN GOING WITH 45%, THAT'S HARD TO IMAGINE AUTOMATICALLY AT THE START OF THE YEAR 50% OF ALL OF THE FUNDS ARE ESSENTIALLY NOT AVAILABLE. AND IN A CITY THAT'S GROWING AND IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND ALL OF THE CHARTS AND GRAPHS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE WATER, WASTEWATER, LUES, EVERYTHING, I JUST DON'T, AGAIN I GUESS THOSE PEOPLE IN 2025 CAN READJUST IT.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME -- >> A 50% RESERVE IS NOT 50% OF ALL FUNDS. IT'S ACTUALLY 1/3 OF ALL FUNDS.

BECAUSE IT'S 50% OF THE BUDGET. SO THE BUDGET WOULD BE 2/3, 1/3 WOULD BE RESERVED REALLY. SO IT'S KEEPING 1/3 OF YOUR

MONEY. >> BUT I MEAN --

>> ARE YOU OKAY TAKING 2026 OFF? >> WE GET TO 45%, I'LL BE OKAY.

45% IS BETTER THAN NOT. >> SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT,

WE'LL TAKE 2026 OFF. >> IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN

STAYING AT 20%. >> FOR SURE.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? THE MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK AM I SAYING THIS RIGHT, BRING BACK THE FINANCIAL

POLICY WITH THE CHANGES. >> YES, YOU'RE SAYING IT RIGHT.

FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY 2023, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE 2023 FISCAL YEAR. SO YOU MEAN FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND LOCK UP AN ADDITIONAL 10% RIGHT NOW? OKAY. THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FLIP IT BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO ADD 5% RIGHT NOW AND 10% LATER THAN 10% RIGHT NOW AND 5% LATER IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING 10%, 10%, THEN 5%.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DO 5% RIGHT NOW THEN 10%, 10%.

>> BUT WE'VE GOT 10% RIGHT NOW. >> WELL YOU DO, BUT AGAIN I MEAN TO YOUR POINT, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE IT, IF YOU LOCK IT UP, THEN IT BECOMES ENCUMBER ASKED THAT'S YOUR POLICY.

SO THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT.

YOU'LL BE DOWN TO ROUGHLY WHAT IS IT $800,000 AFTER THE

$6 MILLION LOAN GETS OUT. >> WE'LL GET 3.1.

>> 20% IS 4.8 MILLION. IF WE GO FROM 20% NOW TO 30%, WE WOULD HAVE $3.1 MILLION LEFT OVER BECAUSE WE WOULD BE GOING

-- >> NOT COUNTING THE $6 MILLION.

>> SO THE $6 MILLION GOES AWAY. >> SO THE $6 MILLION GOES AWAY,

YOU GO DOWN TO 3 MILLION. >> THEN WE REIMBURSE OURSELVES $2.5 MILLION FROM THE BONDS, SO THAT TAKES US BACK UP --

>> THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT COUNTING.

OKAY. >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD LIKE THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH SINCE WE'RE NOT QUITE HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE'RE APPROACHING THE HALFWAY POINT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE WE'RE ALREADY THERE PRETTY MUCH.

>> IF WE GO TO 30% WE'D HAVE OVER $3 MILLION LEFT OF MONEY THAT'S COMPLETELY UNINCUMBERED. TO ME THE HIGHER THE PERCENTAGE IS THE MORE CONSERVATIVE TO ME BECAUSE THAT'S SAVINGS.

THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING WE ARE SAVING MONEY.

TO ME I PROMISED THE CITIZENS I WOULD BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE UP

HERE. >> YEAH, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE MAY HAVE MORE $6 MILLION DEALS COMING UP.

>> THEN WE MAY HAVE TOHIS IS A THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

BUT THERE MAY BE FUTURE DEALS OF THAT CAPACITY AND THAT'S A SCARY

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THING TO HAVE TO MANEUVER. >> I CAN ALREADY THINK OF ONE

THAT HAS TO DO WITH -- >> YEAH.

>> I THINK I'M WITH THE CITY MANAGER IN DOING 5% FIRST AND

THEN 10%, 10%. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE REASON I WAS SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I WAS MISSING THE ADDITION OF THE 2.8 BACK.

IF WE REIMBURSE OURSELVES THE 2.8 THAT WE HAVE SPENT IN ADVANCE OF THE BOND ISSUANCES FOR 1660 NORTH SOUTH LIMMER AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S DIFFERENT. BECAUSE IN MY HEAD WE WERE DOWN TO ABOUT $500,000. BUT IF WE ADD BACK IN 2.8, I THINK WE'RE OKAY. MY MAIN CONCERN IS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I FULLY SUPPORT INCREASING OUR RESERVES.

AND THE REASON THAT I SUPPORT INCREASING THE RESERVES IS FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT AND THEY'RE NOT SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT CERTAINLY THEY'LL BE WATCHING THIS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

SUPER EXCITING STUFF. >> WE'VE GOT ONE LEFT BACK

THERE. >> WHAT THE RESERVES ARE FOR IS WHENEVER WE HAVE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT THAT WE HAVE NO MONEY COMING IN OR WE HAVE EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH EXPENDITURES, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE OUR OPERATIONS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO WHEN WE SAY PERCENTAGES, WE ARE EFFECTIVELY TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG OF A CALENDAR YEAR, FISCAL YEAR BUT CALENDAR YEAR CAN WE RUN WITHOUT ANY NEW REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY BECAUSE HALF OUR CITY GOT WIPED OUT BY A TORNADO OR WHATEVER MAY HAVE HAPPENED THAT WAS HORRIBLE.

SO I VERY MUCH AM ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF YOU PLAN MORE CONSERVATIVELY. SO I SUPPORT THE NOTION OF DOING IT, I THINK OPERATIONAL IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I WAS BALKING AT THE NUMBER I WAS THINKING WE WERE GETTING DOWN TO BY GOING UP 10%. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE, I THINK WE'RE OKAY. WE'LL PULL TOGETHER THE NUMBERS, SHOW YOU WHAT THE PROPOSED ACTION WOULD RESULT IN, AND THEN IF Y'ALL DON'T LIKE THAT OR YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO PIVOT FROM IT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT

AND AMENDING THE POLICY. >> AND AS PART OF THAT, PLEASE BRING BACK THE 2.8 REIMBURSEMENT AS PART OF IT.

>> STATEMENT. >> YES, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE

PART OF THE SAME RESOLUTION. >> ALL THIS VOTE IS IS DIRECTING

YOU ALL TO -- >> TO BRING IT TO YOU.

>> WE COULD SAY WE CHANGE OUR MINDS.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> I WOULD GO UP TO 40% OR 50% TODAY IF I KNEW IT MADE EVERYBODY FREAK OUT AND GO WE'VE GOT TO WATCH OUR BUDGETS BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO SPEND MORE THAN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE HAVING TO HANDLE THE ECONOMY.

AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE, THIS ISN'T A HUTTO THING, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL DOES THAT.

THERE'S ALWAYS MORE MONEY COMING IN JANUARY LIKE PAYDAY AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT UNTIL JANUARY AND THE MORE WE CAN GET INTO BUDGETING AND PUT MONEY ASIDE AND BE VERY CONSERVATIVE, I THINK ULTIMATELY THE LESS WE TAKE FROM PEOPLE AND THE LESS WE TAKE, THE MORE PROSPEROUS THEY ARE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I STARTED AT 30. I DID LIKE YOUR 40.

>> WE'D BE PUTTING THE HEAT ON THE EDC.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? 30% FOR 2023, 40% FOR 2024, 45% FOR 2025 IS THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. ALL RIGHT HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SUTTON. >> NAY.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KINSEY. >> NAY.

[13. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> MOTION PASSES 5-2. THAT BRINGS US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 10.34, WE HAVE ITEM ONE, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS, POTENTIAL CLAIMS, PENDING LITIGATION AND POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUESTS. ITEM 13.2, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATING TO PENDING EEOC CLAIMS FROM FORMER EMPLOYEE STACY SCHMITT.

AND 13.3, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071, 551.072, AND 55.087, TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING STRUCTURE AND FUNDING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND ROAD CONSTRUCTION BY THE HUTTO

[14. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

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>>> WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 12:08.

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE

-- >> 10.8.

>> 10.8, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO.

O-2023-011, AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 1, 2022, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2023, BY APPROPRIATING AND SETTING ASIDE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6 MILLION FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NOW BACK TO 14.1.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS, POTENTIAL CLAIMS, PENDING LITIGATION, POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND CITY COUNCIL

LEGAL REQUESTS. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE ANY AND ALL ACTION INCLUDING DOCUMENTS RELATED TO EXECUTIVE --

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> WHO SAID THAT? COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO NOT BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT MUST REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL UNLESS ASKED FOR BY PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE QUIET. >> UNLESS ASKED FOR BY A PIA, WHICH WE HAVE PLENTY OF CITIZENS WHO ARE VERY GOOD AT THAT.

>> RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> NAY. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-1.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 14.1? ALL RIGHT HEARING NONE, 14.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 RELATING TO PENDING EEOC CLAIMS OF FORMER EMPLOYEE STACY SCHMITT. ANY ITEMS THERE? HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO TO 14.3. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO LEGAL ADVICE RECEIVED PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071, LEGAL CONSULTATION, 551.072, REAL PROPERTY, AND 551.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REGARDING STRUCTURE AND FUNDING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I BELIEVE 14.3, 14.4, 14.5, 14.6

ARE ALL TIED TOGETHER. >> SO NO ACTION ON THREE.

AND THEN 4, 5, AND 6 ARE TIED TOGETHER.

>> SO NO OBJECTIONS, I'LL OPEN UP THE NEXT THREE ALL TOGETHER.

FIRST WE HAVE 14.4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION PROVING COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S SALE OF THE APPROXIMATE 250 ACRES OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CORPORATION, UNDER DURESS, ACCEPTING THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S OFFER TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AS CONTAINED IN THE BILL OF SALE ISSUED BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE B UNDER DURESS.

AND THEN 14.5 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION PROVING THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S RELATED EXPENDITURES TO PURCHASE THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROPERTY, AS CONTAINED IN THE BILL OF SALE ISSUED BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE B, UNDER DURESS. AND 14.6 APPROVE A RESOLUTION

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CORPORATION. >> SO IN CONSIDERING AGENDA ITEMS 14.4, 14.5, AND 14.6, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED UNDER DURESS AND TO CONTINUE THE APPEAL MINIMIZING RISK TO THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, PROVING THE FUNDING AND REFUNDING AGREEMENT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVING THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT CONVEYING THE 250 ACRES AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> I WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEDIA RELEASE REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR TRANSACTION AND SITUATION.

TO SAY IT'S UNDER DURESS IS I THINK FOR A LOT OF US IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS IS A MILD STATEMENT.

IT HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

BUT I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE LAND OWNED BY THE CDC.

AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A SECOND READING OF THIS.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR PUBLIC INPUT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OUT AND SPEAK ON THE

SUBJECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON, DO

YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> NOT AT THE MOMENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. >> JUST THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A BEST DECISION UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE'LL LET OTHERS FILL IN SOME GAPS AS WE

KIND OF AGREED. >> MY ONLY COMMENTS ARE TO BACK UP WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON SAID.

WE'RE BEING PRETTY MUCH FORCED INTO A DECISION HERE THAT IS NOT AN EASY ONE. AND SO TO SAY IT'S UNDER DURESS IS LIGHTLY. BUT IN MY MIND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A SETTLEMENT AND AS LONG AS I'M ELECTED, I'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH TO FIGHT WHAT PRESTON HOLLOW HAS ENGAGED IN BY TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HUTTO. SO AS LONG AS I'M HERE, I'LL KEEP PUSHING TO CONTINUE THE LEGAL EFFORTS TO COME OUT THE WAY WE KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD BE DONE.

>> SO YEAH, I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT AS BEST I COULD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I ASKED OUR ATTORNEYS IF THIS WAS APPROPRIATE TO SHARE HERE AND THEY SAID IT WAS.

SO I'LL SEE IF I CAN JUST SUMMARIZE BASICALLY FOR THE PUBLIC KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

SO THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION CREATED BY THE CITY SPECIFICALLY ORIGINALLY TO HELP BRING THE PERFECT GAME DEVELOPMENT TO HUTTO. IN ORDER TO DO THAT THEY PURCHASED APPROXIMATELY 250 ACRES IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THAT LAND FOR PERFECT GAME. IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THAT LAND, THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ENTERED INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT WITH A COMPANY CALLED PRESTON HOLLOW AND ULTIMATELY IS PART OF PERFECT GAME NOT COMING HERE, PRESTON HOLLOW TRIED TO TAKE OVER THE LAND AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE LAND.

WE'VE BEEN IN A NUMBER OF LAWSUITS WITH PRESTON HOLLOW, WE'VE WON AT LEAST TWO IN FEDERAL COURT.

THEY FILED A LAWSUIT IN STATE COURT AND A JUDGMENT WAS FILED IN THEIR FAVOR IN THAT ONE WHICH WE ARE APPEALING.

BUT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN AND GUARANTEE CONTROL OF THIS LAND AND IN ORDER FOR US TO BASICALLY HAVE A SAY IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT LAND, WE ARE UNDER DURESS PAYING THE JUDGMENT WHILE STILL ALLOWING US TO APPEAL THE JUDGMENT TO STOP THE CLOCK ON ANY FURTHER INTEREST THAT'S ACCRUING ON THAT LOAN.

BUT AGAIN WE'RE NOT CONCEDING ANYTHING, WE ARE APPEALING THIS.

BUT WE ARE GUARANTEEING THAT NOW THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS CONTROL OF THAT LAND, WE CAN THEN SELL IT, WE CAN DEVELOP IT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS PUTTING IN $15 MILLION, THE CITY IS PUTTING IN $6 MILLION IN ORDER TO DO THAT AS A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE INTENTION TO SELL OFF THAT LAND, GET THE MONEY BACK, MAKE OURSELVES WHOLE AND CONTINUE WITH THE APPEAL.

[03:45:01]

IS THAT ACCURATE? >> I THINK YOU COVERED THE REASONS FOR THE DURESS WHICH WAS KEY THERE AND THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO APPEAL. SO I THINK THAT'S THE MOST

IMPORTANT PARTS THERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KINSEY.

>> THANK YOU, PETER. THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE IN TWO MINUTES WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY MEETINGS, MANY, MANY HOURS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE PARTICULARLY LIKES IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVING THAT STABILITY FOR THE CITIZENS IS WHAT I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF US IS THE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING THAT STABILITY FOR THEM.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH MORE OTHER THAN I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE EDC AND I HOPE TO SEE VERY GOOD THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

>> SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR THE MOST ACCURATE EXPLANATION SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE. AND YEAH, THIS IS DEFINITELY THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN ON OUR PLATE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.

WE HELD SEVERAL SPECIAL CALLED COUNCIL MEETINGS IN DECEMBER THROUGHOUT THE HOLIDAYS WHICH WE ALL ATTENDED AND WERE A PART OF HOURS OF NEGOTIATION, CHATTING ABOUT THIS, DISCUSSING IT, OPTIONS, JUST EVERYTHING. AND DURESS IS THE MOST ACCURATE WORD TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH FROM DECEMBER UNTIL THIS POINT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

NOTHING EXTRA TO ADD, BUT HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE THE HUTTO EDC CAN DEVELOP THIS LAND WELL AND IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR

THE RESIDENTS OF HUTTO. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. IF THERE'S NO OTHER ACTION OR ITEMS, WE'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 12:12

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