* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Planning and Zoning] [00:00:04] I'M GETTING ALL SET UP OVER HERE. ALL RIGHT, . OKAY, I'VE GOT SEVEN O'CLOCK. SO WE WILL CALL THIS SPECIAL CALLED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TUESDAY, MARCH 21ST, 2023 TO ORDER. UH, FIRST UP IS ROLL CALL AND I SEE WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MORRIS HERE. UH, COMMISSIONER SCHWART FIGURE IS NOT HERE. UH, COMMISSIONER LEE HERE. COMMISSIONER BOYER HERE. COMMISSIONER LOYER IS NOT HERE. AND COMMISSIONER MEYER HERE AND MYSELF, COMMISSIONER HUDSON IS HERE. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS ITEM THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT IS, UH, JUSTIN COLLINS. UH, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU ON THE MICROPHONE. OH, HE WAS HERE FOR ALL OF THOSE DANIGAN . HE, HE DID WITNESS SHENANIGANS. YES. SO, UH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, GENERALLY YOU HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS AND AS THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO INTERACT ANSWER QUESTIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. GOTCHA. SO THE FLOOR IS YOUR, SIR. SO JUST MY PUBLIC COMMENT IS, UH, ON, I THINK IT WAS 5.1, THE EMORY CROSSING. UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR OF HUTTO FOR 12 YEARS. ROUND ROCK HUTTO FOR OVER 20 YEARS. UM, BUYING A HOUSE IN EMORY CROSSING, UH, RAISING A FAMILY. LIKE I SAID, I MOVED AROUND HUTTO, UH, WE BOUGHT THAT VIEW. I LIVE ON MOOSE ROAD. WE BOUGHT THAT VIEW FOR, UH, THE FARMLAND, JUST NO SUBDIVISION OR DEVELOPMENT BEHIND US. AND UNDER THE ASSUMPTION PER TAYLOR MORRISON SELLS OFFICE, THERE WAS NOTHING GOING TO BE BUILT BACK THERE. AND I KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS. SO, UH, MY BIGGEST, THE INEVITABLE IS GONNA HAPPEN. SOMETHING'S GONNA BE BUILT WHETHER WE OBJECT OR NOT, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN EVENTUALLY, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. SO MY BIGGEST THING WOULD BE TO PUT SOME TYPE OF EASEMENT, 20, 30, 40 FOOT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT TYPICALLY, USUALLY THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, KIND OF SEPARATE IT AND NOT HAVE A, UH, MULTI-FAMILY THING BACKED DIRECTLY UP AGAINST ANY OF OUR HOUSES, UM, FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, COMING AND GOING OF PEOPLE, IT'S NOT A, UM, SET PERSON THAT MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR PROPERTY. UM, ALSO, AND I KNOW THIS IS MAYBE A TECH DOT THING, BUT MAYBE YOU AS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMITTEE CAN HELP PUSH TECH.TO WIDENING LIER LOOP ED SCHMIDT, UM, AND POSSIBLY OPENING AN ON AND OFF-RAMP ON LIMMER LOOP ON ONE 30. UM, I'M ASSUMING MOST OF YOU LIVE HERE IN HUTTO OR OBVIOUSLY WORK HERE IN HUTTO. THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS AND IT'S ONLY GETTING WORSE. THE ACTIONS ARE ONLY GETTING WORSE. SO AGAIN, I KNOW IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A TEXT DOT THING, UM, BUT I JUST, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, Y'ALL CAN HELP PUSH THAT ISSUE TO WIDEN THESE ROADS. UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMENT, BUT OVERALL I OBJECT ON THE SUBDIVISION, BUT UM, I KNOW THE INEVITABLE IS GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S SOMETHING'S GONNA BE BUILT EVENTUALLY, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO INPUT ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, WELL THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS EMPTY THIS, THIS, UH, SESSION. SO ONTO ITEM FIVE, 5.1, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING ORDINANCE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS CTC AT EMORY CROSSING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 56.3 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND, LOCATED ON EDGE, MIT BOULEVARD, CR ONE 19. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD. ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. UM, JUST TO GO OVER THIS REALLY QUICK, UM, I WILL GIVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION. WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE WITH THEIR OWN PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO GET TO THE MEAT OF THAT CUZ THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW CHANGES EVEN SINCE THIS WENT INTO THE PACKET. SO AGAIN, IT'S 56.3 ACRES AS STATED IN THE TITLE. AND THIS IS PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ASSOCIATED AMENITIES. THIS IS A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT THAT'S REALLY SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT THROUGH THAT PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENT. SO THE, TO THE NORTH IS EMORY CROSSING TO THE EAST IS JUDO PARK SOUTH IS STILL UNDEVELOPED AND THE WEST IS THAT COUNTY ROAD ONE 19 OR EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD. SO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY HERE IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE WITH AN ATTACHED PROJECT, UH, PRODUCT THAT WILL MAKE 'EM ABOUT 20% AND THEN 80% WILL BE DETACHED COTTAGE DIAL UNITS. I DID WANNA POINT OUT ONE THING SINCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS JUST APPROVED, THIS ONE SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS PRIOR TO, SO WE'RE MAKING SPACE FOR THAT AND WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO, SO IT STILL SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAD THAT LARGER STATEMENT, UM, IN THERE ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE WITH [00:05:01] THIS PRODUCT. IT'S NOT 50 50 ON ITS OWN, BUT WE EXPECT THAT WHOLE QUARTER WILL BE 50 50 AND CERTAINLY WITH THE DRIVEWAYS, THE TRAFFIC, WE DON'T WANNA JUST HAVE OFF CORNER COMMERCIAL. UM, THAT USUALLY DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL. SO, UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS STILL SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE TRAIL EXTENSION, WHICH WAS CALLED OUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THE ACCESS TO THE TRAIL EXTENSION AND THEN THE BUFFERING FROM ED SCHMIDT BETWEEN ALSO HODO PARK, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME FLOOD PLANE BACK THERE, BUT ALSO FROM EMORY TO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE MORE COMMERCIAL ON THAT HARD CORNER, WE FELT THAT IT WAS SOME SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE CUZ IT HAS BEEN IN AND WE JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SPACE FOR THAT WITHIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO HERE'S WHAT, UM, THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S 115 UNITS AT THE NORTH ON ABOUT 8.3 ACRES. UM, AND THEN THERE'S 215 UNITS TO THE SOUTH ON JUST OVER 18 ACRES. ONE THING TO POINT OUT, THESE ARE ALL SINGLE STORY. UM, ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO ENSURE IS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORS, BUT CERTAINLY WANNA HAVE MORE OF THAT COTTAGE STYLE FEEL BETWEEN THE ATTACHED AND DETACHED PROJECT, UM, PRODUCT. THERE YOU ALSO SEE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE EASEMENTS THAT AFFECT THIS SITE. SO YOU'VE GOT THE LARGER DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED FEET WIDE THAT KIND OF, UM, BISECTS THE PROPERTY. YOU ALSO HAVE THE OVERHEAD ELECTRIC EASEMENTS ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN IN THE BACK THAT ACTUALLY SEPARATES THIS PROJECT FROM HUTTO PARK. AND SO HERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE PERIMETERS ARE AND THERE IS A 15 FOOT SITE SETBACK ON THAT NORTHERN BOUNDARY BECAUSE THOSE HOMES WILL BE SIDE SET TO THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE THERE THAT BACK UP TO THE ADJACENT, UM, IN EMORY. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. WHAT I JUST SAID, THESE HOMES BACK UP TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, THERE WE GO. UM, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A 20 FOOT REAR SETBACK FOR ANYTHING. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THAT RED LINE THAT THERE'S STILL A 20 FOOT SETBACK ON THAT HUTTO PARK SIDE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY DOES EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO THE, UM, COMMON BOUNDARY FOR HUTTO PARK. HERE YOU CAN SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. IT JUST, UM, TAKES OFF ALL OF THOSE LINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN SEE THE 70 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITHIN THAT 150 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. UM, AND HOW THIS KIND OF ALL CONNECTS BACK TO ED SCHMIDT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THIS SLIDE, IS SHOWING THE ADDITIONAL TREES FROM FOX. SO THIS SLIDE DOESN'T, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SHOWN ON ANYTHING YET, UM, THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE. SO HERE IS THE MAIN THING THAT'S BEING, UH, REQUESTED IN THE PD BESIDES, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY IN OUR UDC, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING FOR THAT MISSING MIDDLE. WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR LANDSCAPE CALCULATIONS OF WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED BECAUSE WE STILL CONSIDER THIS MULTI-FAMILY. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT THEY ARE, UM, PROVIDING, WHICH IS THE 660 TREES. SO TYPICALLY YOU'D HAVE 934. THERE'S JUST SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR 934, MOSTLY IN PART BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AS WELL AS THOSE LARGER EASEMENTS ON SITE. UM, SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE ALL THESE TREES ARE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT KIND OF, THAT TYPICAL TREE PLANTING HERE WHERE YOU SEE ON THAT EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE REALLY, UM, PUT A LOT OF TREES IN THERE AND WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO AVOID THOSE EASEMENTS. SO AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF 934, THEY WILL, THEY'RE PROPOSING 660 TREES TOTAL AND THEN 39 OVER 3,900, UM, SHRUBS, WHICH IS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO DO BY COATS. SO CERTAINLY THEY'RE STILL GETTING IN THE SHRUBS, THEY'RE GETTING IN THE TREES, UM, THEY JUST HAVE TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE AREAS. AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL TREES THAT WERE CONDITIONED BY THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD ALONG THE PUBLIC TRAIL. AND JUST SO YOU SEE ON EACH OF THE UNITS, THIS IS KIND OF THEIR TYPICAL PLANTING. SO YOU'LL SEE THE TREES AND THEN, UM, THE SHRUBS THAT ARE OUT FRONT FOR EACH OF THOSE UNITS. SO THE P U D DOES MEET ALL THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE THAT IN THERE JUST, UM, IN YOUR, UM, STAFF REPORT IN THE PACKET, BUT ALSO JUST HERE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK, IT MEETS EVERYTHING. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT LAND WITH SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, RECREATIONAL OR AESTHETIC VALUE. I THINK THE PROPERTY IS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, SO I WOULD, UM, I HAVE TO DENY THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S STILL, IT DOESN'T ADVERSELY AFFECT IT. UM, THEY ARE SAVING THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THOSE, UM, EXISTING PONDS ON THE PROPERTY. SO THEY ARE MAKING, UM, A STAND TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE WHAT THEY CAN, UM, WHICH IS ALREADY PRETTY ON THE PROPERTY. AND IT DOES HAVE BENEFITS PROVIDING OPEN SPACE PARKS AND THE CONSERVATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES AND IT PRESERVES WHAT THEY CAN AND IT DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER BURDEN ON THE CITY'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT. AGAIN, THIS IS ON ED SCHMITZ THAT IS STILL A COUNTY ROAD, BUT THEY HAVE HAD TO DO WORK [00:10:01] WITH TRAFFIC OVER THERE. SO WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS AND THESE CAME OUT OF THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WENT LAST WEEK TO THAT GROUP. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CTC AT EMORY P U D WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE MOWING FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM BIMONTHLY, UM, AND THEN MONTHLY NOVEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY, THE MAINTENANCE FOR WARRANTY OF THE CONCRETE WORK FOR A MINIMUM OF A YEAR IN THAT TRAIL AREA. AND THEN THE TREES TO PLANT APPROVED TREES AND BULBS ALONG THE TRAIL. AND THEN ALSO AN EASEMENT TO ENSURE THAT BOTH THE RSI OR EMORY, UM, PROPERTY AS WELL AS HUDDLE PARK CAN ACCESS THAT BECAUSE WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT PUBLIC PORTION IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL SWITCH OVER TO THE OTHER PRESENTATION, UM, AND THEN DEVELOPER CAN GIVE YOU THEIR PRESENTATION. HAVE A CLICKER. NICE . GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS AMANDA BROWN WITH HD BROWN CONSULTING HERE REPRESENTING TAYLOR MORRISON, UM, UH, ON A REZONING, UM, AND ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP A SORT OF SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT HORIZONTAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING MAP. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UN ZONED AND NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY. UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS ZONING APPLICATION, UM, TO ANNEX THIS PROPERTY. UM, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS THE NEW RECENTLY APPROVED, UH, FUTURE LAND USE. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH CALLS FOR, UM, RELATIVELY DENSE RESIDENTIAL, UM, A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES AND, UM, SUBSTANTIAL COMMERCIAL. UM, SO WE ARE SORT OF THE TOP THIRD, UH, OF THAT DESIGNATION. UM, AND I THINK CONSIDERING THE, UM, THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY BEING BOTH ON OUR NORTH AND UM, EAST AND WEST, THAT THIS IS A MODERATELY DENSE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TRANSITION NICELY INTO A MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT AS IT MOVES FURTHER DOWN EDGE SCHMIDT AND THEN HOPEFULLY INTO SOME MORE SUBSTANTIAL COMMERCIAL RIGHT THERE AT LIMBER LOOP. SO THIS IS AN, UM, OVERALL CONTEXT MAP. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD MAP TO KIND OF START OFF WITH JUST TO SHOW CONTEXT BOTH IN TERMS OF OF LAND USE AND HOW YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS HOUSING TYPE REALLY DOES PROVIDE A, A SUBSTANTIAL DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IN THE AREA WHILE ALSO PROVIDING THAT TRANSITION. UM, AND, AND ALSO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UH, PARKLAND THAT WILL BE DEDICATING WITH THIS PROJECT AND HOW THE PARKLAND AND ASSOCIATED TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS WILL REALLY CONNECT WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT, UM, MORE IN JUST A MINUTE. SO THIS IS OUR CONCEPT PLAN. UM, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, A COMBINATION OF ATTACHED AND DETACHED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. IT'S GONNA HAVE A COMBINATION OF DUPLEXES, UM, AND SORT OF DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY, UM, KIND OF COTTAGES. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING 330 UNITS. UM, THE, THE UNITS THEMSELVES WILL ACTUALLY BE SORT OF FACING ON SORT OF COMMON SORT OF OPEN SPACE PASEOS, UM, WITH SIDEWALKS SORT OF INTERCONNECTING TO THE AMENITIES, TO THE PARKING, UM, AND ULTIMATELY TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A MAXIMUM OF ONE STORY REALLY TO KIND OF REFLECT THE NEIGHBOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, WE'RE PROVIDING BOTH PRIVATE AMENITIES AND, UM, AND PUBLIC PARK SPACE, WHICH I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PRIVATE AMENITIES THAT, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO PROVIDE. THAT'LL INCLUDE A CLUBHOUSE IN PAVILION AND A POOL. UM, WE'VE REALLY LET SORT OF THE PARKLAND DRIVE THE OPEN SPACE OF, OF THIS PRIVATE, OF THE PRIVATE AMENITIES AS WELL. UM, WE'VE SITUATED THE DOG PARK IN A LOCATION THAT HAS, UM, ACCESS TO THE TRAIL AND WILL KIND OF BE AN AMENITY TO THE TRAIL. UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING TREE GROVE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE PUT AND COMMITTED TO PRESERVING TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, HOPING THEY'RE HEALTHY AND EVERYTHING, UM, AND, AND HAVE KIND OF GEARED OUR, UH, PARK SPACE AND OPEN SPACE TOWARDS THAT. UM, THE TRAIL YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AS IT GOES THROUGH THE SITE WILL BE AN EIGHT FOOT CONCRETE TRAIL THAT CONNECTS TO THE PUBLIC TRAIL [00:15:01] AS WELL. SO THIS IS THE, THE TREE PLANTING, UM, PLAN. UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THAT. UM, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PLANT, UM, TREES ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT, UM, TO KIND OF HAVE THAT NICE VISUAL FROM THE ROAD AND TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT. UM, AND SO THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PUT. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE PLAN, I KNOW THERE ARE PLANS TO EXPAND EDGE SCHMIDT, SO ALSO IF WE END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, WE'VE PUT IN THERE THAT WE WILL HAVE TREE PLANTINGS ALONG, UM, A ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EASEMENTS, I'M GONNA POINT OUT THAT EASEMENT REAL QUICK. SO THIS IS ALL HERE IS A, A LARGE OKAY, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT . UM, AND SO TREES WILL BE PLANTED SORT OF SHADING EDGE SCHMIDT EITHER ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT OR, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EASEMENT. UM, WE HAVE AN ENHANCED ENTRY, UH, AND I'LL SHOW THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND THEN THE, AGAIN, THE TREE PRESERVATION, WHICH IS LOCATED KIND OF RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS OUR FENCING PLAN, UM, WHICH IS ALSO AN EXHIBIT IN THE PUT IN. UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE YELLOW, THE LITTLE YELLOW.HERE. UM, SO WE REALLY WANTED TO BR PROVIDE A SENSE OF SPACE AND A SENSE OF PLACE FOR PEOPLE KIND OF ENTERING INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT HAD SORT OF A UNIQUE, UM, A UNIQUE FEEL. SO, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ENHANCED SORT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER. I THINK IT'S 500 SQUARE FEET WITH LANDSCAPING AND TREES AND A MONUMENT SIGN. UM, WE'VE DONE, UM, A LONG EDGE. SCHMIDT IS, UM, A LOWER MASONRY WALL AND THEN REALLY TO ALLOW FOR THERE TO BE VIEWS TO THE PARK IS THIS IS ALL GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, VIEW FENCING TO WHERE IT'LL BE VERY POROUS TO WHERE THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARK ARE REALLY VERY INTERTWINED. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL CONTEXT MAP. ONE MORE TIME, JUST AS I KIND OF INTRODUCED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS, UM, ALMOST 21 ACRES OF LAND THAT COMPRISES, UH, ABOUT 13 ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN, BUT IT IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF LAND THAT IS NOT IN A FLOODPLAIN THAT IS FULLY ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A FULL PUBLIC PARK ONE DAY. UM, SO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US, UM, HODO PARK, EMORY CROSSING, COTTONWOOD FARMS, UM, AND, AND CURRENTLY IN REVIEW IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE, HOPEFULLY TO PROVIDE THAT MORE DENSE MULTI-FAMILY THAT, UM, UH, IS CALLED FOR IN THE, IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL ALL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS TRAIL AND THIS PARK VIA PUBLIC, A PUBLIC TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THIS IS THE HEDO PARKS RECREATION OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN. AND YOU CAN SEE THE RED LINE, UM, THAT, THAT ALREADY KIND OF CONTEMPLATES AND ESTABLISHES, UM, A TRAIL IN THIS AREA. I BELIEVE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO CHANDLER AND, UM, AND ALSO CONNECTS BACK HERE, UH, TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY HAS IN PLACE A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CONTEMPLATES THIS TRAIL CONNECTION. SO THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. IT IS CURRENTLY UNI IMPROVED, UM, BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THAT TRAIL AS WELL, SO LONG AS THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY ARE OKAY WITH IT. SO WE, UM, THE ORIGINAL IDEA AND THAT WHAT GOT US VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS WAS TO BE ABLE TO DEDICATE THIS TO THE CITY, UM, AS A PARK. AND WE WENT TO THE PARKS BOARD, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY, WHICH, UM, HA HAD AGREED TO ACCEPT THE PARK AS PARKLAND SO LONG AS THERE WERE CERTAIN CONDITIONS PUT IN PLACE. SO WE'VE UPDATED THE PUT TO INCORPORATE MANY OF THOSE CONDITIONS AS WELL. A COUPLE OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE THE TRAIL MAINTENANCE, UM, ON 10 FEET OF EITHER SIDE OF THE TRAIL. SO THAT'S REGULAR MOWING MA MAKING SURE IT'S CONTINUED TO BE CLEAR. UM, THERE ARE, UM, UH, TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE PLANTED ALONG THE TRAIL AS WELL THAT WE WILL BE IRRIGATING FOR, UM, 18 MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN REALLY ESTABLISH A GOOD ROOT SYSTEM AND SURVIVE. UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO IN THE PU THE, THE WAY YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF STRUCTURED IS THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT FEE CAN EITHER BE PAID AS A FEE IN LIEU IF THE CITY WOULD PREFER TO JUST TAKE THE MONEY OR IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT THAT IS DESIRED ON THIS LAND. WHEN WE GET INTO THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS, THEN THAT MONEY CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS ANY ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE, ARE DESIRED IN THIS LOCATION. UH, THIS SLIDE KIND OF SUMMARIZES THE PARK. UM, ONE OTHER THING I DID WANNA NOTE IS THE, THE SOCCER FIELDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS, THOSE ARE REALLY JUST THERE TO SHOW SCALE AND [00:20:01] TO JUST SO THAT THE SIZE OF IT, THERE'S REALLY NO INTENT TO, UM, HAVE THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THERE. UM, I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED TO BE AN, AN IMPORTANT TRAIL CONNECTION AND ALSO, UM, JUST OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, AS OF NOW. UM, SO A AGAIN, IT'LL BE SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF, UH, PARK OF, UM, PARKLAND OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN 13 ACRES, UM, IN, AND THEN, UM, 3,200 LINEAR FEET OF AN, UH, EIGHT FOOT PUBLIC A D A, UH, TRAIL, A DEVELOPMENT FEE OF $46,000. AND THEN AGAIN, ALL OF THE PRI PR PRIVATE PARK LAND, UM, AMENITIES THAT WE'RE HOPING TO PROPOSE. UM, AND WE ADDED UP ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND AND IT'S ABOUT, UM, A LITTLE OVER 2,500 HOMES, SO THOUSANDS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PARK VIA THE TRAIL. AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UM, COMING ONLINE TO THE SOUTH. UM, AND SO I REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A VERY MEANINGFUL TRAIL THAT COULD CONNECT REALLY THROUGH ALL, ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, AND ONE MORE THING I DID WANNA MENTION WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS IS, UM, THE, THIS, THIS SETBACK HERE WILL BE 15 FEET. WE REALLY, AND, AND AGAIN, ONLY ONE STORY, UH, 15 FEET MIMICS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. IT'S EITHER AS BIG AS IT OR, OR LARGER, UM, THAN, THAN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AS WELL. UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UM, I'M AVAILABLE. RYAN MADDOX IS HERE WITH TAYLOR MORRISON FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT, WELL THIS DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:21 PM AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:21 PM AND OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FROM THE DIAS. UM, SORRY, WHILE YOU'RE ON THIS SLIDE, WHEN YOU SAY PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE OF 46,000, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, OKAY, SO A COUPLE THINGS WALKING THROUGH THE PUD. SO 1.4, THIS, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CITY OVER THERE. UM, IT SAYS MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONCEPT PANEL MUST BE APPROVED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT DOES STILL GO THROUGH P AND Z FIRST. CORRECT. SO THE CONCEPT PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE P U D, WOULD GO TO P AND Z AND COUNCIL, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL SEPARATE CONCEPT PLAN AS PART OF THE PLATTING PROCESS. THAT'S FINE. YEAH, I WAS JUST VERIFYING IT STILL COMES THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. YEAH. OKAY. UM, UH, AND FROM THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN, I KNOW IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN AT THE MOMENT, BUT UM, IS THERE NO REASON WHY THERE IS NO TRAIL COMING FROM THAT NORTH SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT? I'M GUESSING MAYBE BECAUSE ARE THERE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE CONNECTING ROADWAY ALREADY? LET ME FIND IT. GOOD. UM, OKAY, SO NO TRAIL CONNECTING HERE. NO, I'M SORRY. IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT YOU HAVE THE NORTH SECTION SEPARATED BY THE UTILITY EASEMENT, UHHUH . UM, SO GO BACK TO ONE THAT SHOWS YOUR, YOUR WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE YOU GO. SO LIKE THE NORTH DEVELOPMENT SECTION THERE YOU HAVE, SO YOU HAVE THE MULTI-USE TRAIL COMING FROM YOUR SOUTH PORTION, UHHUH GOING INTO THERE, BUT YOU HAVE NOTHING COMING FROM YOUR NORTH PORTION. RIGHT? IS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS THAT WOULD EXACTLY. IT'LL BE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS. UM, ADDITIONALLY PRETTY LIMITED, BUT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE CONNECTION HERE. OKAY. JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. YEAH, MAKE SURE THE CONNECTIVITY WAS STILL THERE. UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CITIZENS HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE GREEN BELT AREA CONCERNS. SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT AS YOU EXPLAIN LIKE THE GREEN BELT WILL GENERALLY STAY AS IS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE EVEN THAT THE PARK WILL STAY PRETTY WELL GENERALLY AS IS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAVE MUCH DISRUPTION EXCEPT FOR PUTTING A PATH IN. UM, SO THREE, 3.5 0.2 PARKLAND, UM, LOVING THE ADDITION OF KEEPING THE PONDS IN THE TREES. THAT'S GREAT TO KEEP THAT, UM, IN THERE. UM, AND JUST TO VERIFY, YOU SAID THAT THE ONLY REQUIREMENT FOR PARKLAND IS THE 3.58 ACRES, CORRECT? OR SORRY, 7.58 ACRES. CORRECT. IF WE CORRECT, IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TO, UM, IF THE CITY WANTED ONSITE PARKLAND DEDICATED TO THE CITY, THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENT WOULD BE SEVEN ACRES. OKAY. SO YOU, YOU'RE SATISFYING THAT WITH THE PARK WITH AN ONSITE PARK ONSITE WITH A 21 ACRE PARK. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. MM-HMM. . SO THE PARKLAND YOU'RE DEDICATING AND THE FLOODPLAIN ISN'T PART OF THE REQUIREMENT, IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE CORRECT. IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAS THE TRAIL COMPONENT DO IT. PERFECT. NOW JUST, JUST DOUBLE CHECKING SOUNDS PERFECT. UM, AND THEN 3.4 0.3 SIDEWALKS. UM, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY STATE IN HERE, BUT UM, DEFINITELY NEED TO ENSURE THAT [00:25:01] THE SIDEWALKS WILL CONTINUE AND CONNECT OVER TO THE COTTONWOOD SUBDIVISION. SO WHATEVER THE ENTRY, THE ENTRYWAY ROAD WOULD BE THAT THE SIDEWALKS WOULD ACTUALLY FOLLOW THAT ENTRYWAY ROAD AND CONNECT INTO THE COTTONWOOD SUBDIVISION ACROSS EDGE SCHMIDT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS OKAY, YOU'RE LOSING ME A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. SO FROM HERE, WHOA, WHERE AM I AT . SO, SO EITHER THIS IS JUST A FIRE ACCESS, BUT UM, THAT'S INTERESTING CAUSE IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH COTTONWOOD. I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S A FULL ACCESS. MM-HMM. IT IS, IT IS A FULL ACCESS. YEAH. OKAY. SO PROBABLY FOR THIS ACCESS THEN ALL I'M STATING IS MAKE SURE SOMEWHERE IN THE PUTT OR SOMEWHERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IT STATES THAT THERE'S REQUIRED SIDEWALKS MUST CONNECT OVER TO THE COTTONWOOD SUBDIVISION BECAUSE FOR CONNECTIVITY, I MEAN THE TRAILS ARE GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SUBDIVISIONS CONNECT TO EACH OTHER AS WELL. I GOTCHA. ESPECIALLY AS STUDENTS TRAVEL ALL THE WAY OVER HERE TO GET TO SCHOOL. OKAY, SURE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE, SO JUST A SIDEWALK, I MEAN BASICALLY CONNECTING TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT. YES. WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN ADA REQUIREMENT, IF NOT A CITY OF HU HUTTO REQUIREMENT. RIGHT. SO THAT'LL, DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE PUT WE CAN JUST REITERATE IT. JUST OKAY. WORK THAT. CAUSE I KNOW USUALLY IN THE PLATS IT'LL HAVE THAT IN THERE. IT WILL. OKAY. YEAH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS PART OF THE CUT AS WELL. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, SORRY, I'M, I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS. NO, GO AHEAD. GO FOR IT. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S A COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER BASED ON THE NEW, UM, KIND OF GENERAL GUIDANCE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER IS THAT MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER USES MM-HMM. TO INCLUDE SOME SMALL COMMERCIAL USE. YEAH. YOU ALSO JUST MENTIONED THE DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THE SOUTH POTENTIALLY. MM-HMM. IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT MORE DENSE MULTI-FAMILY. SO I'M NOT HEARING AT THE MOMENT ANYBODY THAT'S PLANNING TO LOOK AT EVEN SMALL COMMERCIAL ALONG THAT PROPOSED COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER. SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW. OKAY. SO, UH, SO HERE'S OUR PROJECT TO THE SOUTH. UM, THAT DEVELOPMENT KIND OF STOPS HERE MM-HMM. . AND SO THIS IS BEING HELD BY THE HANSEN FAMILY. UM, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT 20 ACRES. I MEAN IT'S SUBSTANTIAL MM-HMM. , UM, TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE AS COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO THAT THEN, AND THAT DEFINITELY SOUNDS GOOD. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH IS IF THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS THAT COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER MM-HMM. , I MEAN, HAVING COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH IS GREAT, BUT MM-HMM. STILL FINDING A WAY TO MIX THAT IN AS YOU GO ALONG THAT IN MM-HMM. AS YOU GO ALONG THAT AREA IS STILL A BIG BENEFIT. MM-HMM. . SO I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO ADD EVEN BASIC SMALL COMMERCIAL TO THE FRONT MM-HMM. THE FRONTAGE OF YOUR AREA OR NOT? YEAH, I THINK FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, NO, JUST BECAUSE IT IS SO CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF THE EASEMENT AND THE PARKLAND AND ALSO THERE, IT REALLY IS JUST SO MID-BLOCK. I MEAN, THERE'S NO HARD CORNER FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT. THIS ONE DOWN HERE, HOWEVER, WILL HAVE AN EXTENSION THAT GOES TO EDGE SCHMIDT AND WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL THAT WILL COME ONLINE HERE, MY EXPECTATION MM-HMM. , UM, IN INTO HAVING SOME MINOR SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL HERE AS WELL. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THINKING ABOUT EDGE SCHMIDT AND THE SIDEWALK ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT, TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THESE PEOPLE IN A WALKABLE WAY MM-HMM. , UM, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S REALLY AT THOSE MORE MEANINGFUL HARD CORNERS AS WELL. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. I GOT A QUESTION, I THINK IT'S ON YOUR PAGE SEVEN, UM, WHERE IT'S, UH, IT'S THE ONE WITH THE FENCING. WHERE DID I LOST IT NOW? OF THE, THE PUDDING? IT'S THE ONE THAT HAD THE, THE MASONRY, UH, FENCE. UH, OKAY. YES. HERE IT IS. UM, THIS, THIS ONE HERE. UHHUH . UM, I, WELL, WHAT IS THE DISCLAIMER? I I DO LIVE IN HUDDLE PARK. OH, OKAY. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2008. UM, I'M NOT WITHIN THE 600 FEET, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THAT ON THE, THE COMMON LINE BETWEEN HUDDLE PARK AND THIS, UH, IN THE, THE CTC, IS THAT BLACK LINE? UM, I THINK, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S PAGE, YEAH, THAT, THAT PAGE AS WELL. BUT THAT BLACK LINE ON PAGE FIVE OR PAGE SEVEN IS, UH, WHAT IS THAT? NOTHING. NOTHING. OKAY. MM-HMM. . UM, AND IT'S CONFUSING THOUGH. I CAN SEE HOW THAT NO, NO, NO, THAT'S OKAY. AND, AND IT'S THE PROPERTY LINE. AND YOU SAID IT EARLIER THAT ALL OF THESE AMENITIES HERE, THE BASEBALL FIELD, SOCCER FIELDS ARE PLACEHOLDERS. THERE'S GONNA BE NO DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF THE TRAIL ITSELF. CORRECT. AND WE ACTUALLY, UM, UPDATED THE, THE PARKS PLAN TO EXCLUDE ALL OF THAT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT. 10 MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. UM, THE, THE QUESTION I, A CONCERN I HAVE, AND Y'ALL MAY HAVE ALREADY RAN [00:30:01] INTO IT, IS THAT IS A HUGE RATTLESNAKE FIELD AND WE ALWAYS HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE SPRINGTIME. AND IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE, WE GET RATTLESNAKES. I MEAN, I'M TALKING 6, 7, 8, 9 FOOTERS. MY GOSH. THAT PILE UP ON YOUR FRONT PORCH. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT . AND, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION HERE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT. SURE. THANK YOU. FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT AND, AND THE MORE DISTURBANCE THAT OCCURS, THEN THE MORE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST IN THOSE, THOSE, UH, SURE. SO, UM, AND IT DOES, IT'S, UM, IT'S ALONG THAT, THAT DRY CREEK, SO IT'S REALLY NOT SO MUCH THAT PROPOSED PARK AREA OR OPEN AREA MM-HMM. , IT'S, IT'S JUST THE DRY CREEK. IT'S THE COTTONWOOD CREEK IS. UM, AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WHEN IN HUDDLE PARK, THE, UH, THE, THE FARTHEST NORTHERN STREET, UH, HARRINGTON WAS, UM, WAS DELAYED ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS CUZ OF THE DOWNTURN. SO WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS PUT IN, WE HAD A VERY LARGE RUN OF, OF RATTLE SIGNAL. FORTUNATELY, AND KNOCK ON WOOD, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANY SERIOUS INJURIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE AT THAT. AND, UM, SO OUTSIDE OF THE TRAIL PREPARATION AND, AND THE, THERE'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH AND IT'S A, IT'S, THE ISSUE WITH THE HOA IS THAT WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE THERE. MM-HMM. , UM, AND ALL THOSE, THOSE HOMES OFF OF, UH, UM, SAUL THAT BACK UP TO THAT COMMON LINE TO THIS CT C IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S NOT OWED AND MAINTAINED PROPERLY BY THE HUDDLE PARK HOA MM-HMM. . BUT IT'S THE SAME ISSUE. I MEAN, UM, THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, CTC IS GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS IF, YOU KNOW, IF THAT ISN'T MAINTAINED ON BOTH SIDES, CUZ I THINK THAT'S GONNA AFFECT MORE THE HUDDLE PARK RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE MUCH CLOSER MM-HMM. , UH, TO THAT. SO, UM, AGAIN, KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WHATEVER HOA OR PROPERTY THING AND, AND HUDDLE PARK HOA MAYBE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND WORK ON THAT, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANTED BRING UP MM-HMM. , AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION, BUT JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF IT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, THAT, AND, AND, AND THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS A, UH, WE WATCH OUT FOR THOSE, UH, SNAKES AND, AND JUST PESTS ENVIRONMENTS IN GENERAL. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD WARNING TOO FOR WHEN WE WELL, YOUR MAINTENANCE STORY, ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, SURVEYORS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A, ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIME OF YEAR TOO. YEAH. I'M GOOD. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MEYER IS THERE, I CAN'T FIND IT AND MAYBE I JUST, I JUST CAN'T FIND IT. UH, DOES THE P D MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT BEING LIMITED TO SINGLE STORY? YES. YES IT DOES. OKAY. SO I JUST CAN'T, I JUST OVERLOOKED IT. IT'S IN THE TABLE, UM, ON PAGE SECTION 3.1, BUILDING HEIGHTS 25 FEET AND ONE STORY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S THERE. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS AS FAR AS THE, THE UNITS THAT ARE BACKING UP TO EMORY CROSSING MM-HMM. , WOULD THE DEVELOPER BE AMENABLE TO INSTALLING AN EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OR WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE BACKING TO THE EXISTING HOMES FOR THAT SECTION? AN EIGHT FOOT OR A MASONRY FENCE? I'M GONNA HAVE TO PHONE A FRIEND ON THAT ONE. , THERE'S A MASONRY FENCE CORRECTLY CHEVY, CORRECT? NO, HE'S TALKING ABOUT, SO WE HAVE A MASONRY FENCE HERE AND THEN HERE IS A PRIVACY FENCE, THAT PORTION THERE. MM-HMM. JUST, JUST WHERE THE HOUSES ARE. WE'LL CONTINUE THAT MASONRY FENCE TO WRAP AROUND TO MEET THAT IN PROPERTY. WHAT CAN IT BE? EIGHT FEET? EIGHT FEET IN THE FRONT, TRANSITIONING DOWN? TRANSITIONING DOWN ME. BUT, UH, SURE CAN SAY FOR FURTHER PRIVACY BETWEEN YEAH, THOSE AND THOSE HOUSES, IF YOU COULD DO IT EIGHT FOOT FENCE. YEAH. I LIKE THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MASONRY, BUT IF YOU DID AN EIGHT FOOT MASON WOOD FENCE FOR ADDITIONAL PRIVACY. YEAH, SURE. WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? B EIGHT? I KNOW YOU'VE [00:35:01] GOT SOME DETAILS USUALLY. IS THAT IT? I, I HAVEN'T CAUGHT ANYTHING. OKAY. YEAH. WELL THEN, THEN I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THE BASEBALL FIELD AND THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE DISPLAYED ON HERE ARE NOT GOING IN CONFIRMED. OKAY, GOOD. UM, BECAUSE THAT BRINGS UP A HOST OF OTHER ISSUES. YEAH. EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE FIELDS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. OKAY. GOT IT. ALIGNMENT OF FIELDS. GOT IT. UM, HAS HUDDLE PARK AGREED TO CONNECT THE TRAIL ACROSS THAT UNDEVELOPED LAND BETWEEN YOUR LOT AND THEIR ALREADY DEVELOPED LOT? NO. OKAY. BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD BE PURSUING THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PRO. OKAY. SO PROCESS. SO WE COULD, WE COULD BE GETTING A STUB HERE IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO POSSIBLY SO IN THE POD, I MEAN, IT JUST IS ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND SO WE DID PUT FLEXIBILITY IN THERE LIKE IT IS REQUIRED. SO LONG AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU GONNA UHHUH CONNECT ME WITH THE HOA ONE I CAN. OKAY. UM, SO, SO IF IT, SO LONG AS THEY APPROVE IT, THEN WE CAN, WE'LL CONSTRUCT IT. OKAY. MM-HMM. AND THEN ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED, THEN THAT WOULD REVERT OVER TO CITY MOWING? NO, THE PORTION FOR THAT, FOR THAT PORTION, IS IT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY IT'S HUTTO PARKS. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE HUTTO PARKS. YEAH. IT'S GOTTA BE, IT'S GOTTA BE THE HUDDLE PARK ACTUALLY. MM-HMM. , MY, MY QUESTION, SUB-QUESTION TO THAT IS THAT, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE GONNA DO CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE HUDDLE PARK HOA JURISDICTION? THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. YES. YEAH. FROM SO LONG AS THERE, YEAH. YEAH. SO LONG AS THE HOA IS OKAY WITH IT. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S A PO THAT'S A POSITIVE. YEAH. OKAY. I I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT COORDINATION. AND AND SIMILARLY THE SAME WITH EMORY CROSSING TO THE NORTH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. MAKE SURE THEY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT UNITS. YOU MENTIONED BRINGING IN, UM, SORRY, I FORGET THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET. COTTONWOOD, COTTONWOOD, COTTONWOOD SOMETHING, COTTONWOOD FARMS MM-HMM. TIE IN THEIR SIDEWALKS. THIS, THIS IS KIND OF OUR PURVIEW TO PIECE ALL OF THESE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER SO THEY FIT, RIGHT? SURE. YES. SO YES. UH, IF I DON'T KNOW WHO'S UH HMM. WHO'S GOT THE BALL ON THAT ONE IS IF IT'S A DEVELOPER TO COORDINATE WITH THE EXISTING PROPERTIES OR IF IT'S CITY TO COORDINATE AND KIND OF GET EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE, WE USUALLY ASSIST MORE NECESSARY. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT MORE OF THE HOA CONTACTS WE'VE BEEN PASSING ALONG, BUT CERTAINLY IF PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITY INSTEAD OF THE DEVELOPER, WE JUMP IN. OKAY. WE, WE WOULDN'T ADVOCATE TYPICALLY AT ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WE SIMP WE SIMPLY JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. IT'S HONESTLY SIM SIMILAR. UM, TAYLOR MORRISON BUILT THE EMORY NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF THIS. RIGHT? SO, UM, AND THIS IS ANOTHER TAYLOR MORRISON PRODUCT, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO HOW THEY DID THE, TO ME, THE PUBLIC MEETING WITH THOSE, WITH THE HUDDLE PARK, UM, HOA WHEN THAT WAS ALL CONTEMPLATED CUZ WE MET OVER AT U CHECK. UM, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT WE CAN JUST GET EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM TOGETHER AND, AND DEFINITELY WITH THE TRAIL PLAN AND PARKS BOARD BLESSING OFF ON THIS, ET CETERA. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, I'M GONNA SAY MOMENTUM GOING INTO THIS ONE. IF HUTTO PARK WANTS TO DRAG THEIR FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, STALLED OUT MM-HMM. ON CONNECTING THIS TRAIL. LET'S GET THIS TRAIL IN. YEAH. BY ALL MEANS. YEAH. I WOULD THINK YOU SHOULD, SHOULD CONTACT THE HOA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND IF YOU CAN USE, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND MY, MY, MY HAT HERE. I, I DON'T MIND BEING, YOU KNOW, SHARING CONTACTS, BUT I'M DEFINITELY NOT ADVOCATING EITHER WAY. YEAH, I, I I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, WE ACTUALLY DID SEND LETTERS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 600 FEET FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR OFFICE TO GET IN TOUCH AND I KNOW THE CITY DID AS WELL. AND SO I THINK HAVING THAT H HOA CONTACT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. JUST HAVING A DIRECT POINT OF CONTACT TO YEAH. WHICH I THINK I JUST, I JUST, CAN YOU SEND ME BACK TODAY? THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE THE ONE I SENT YOU TODAY. I JUST GOT THAT TODAY. SHE STILL KEEPS THE RUNNING LIST, BUT SOMETIMES OUR LIST OF PEOPLE CHANGE. WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, LET ME KNOW. CUZ I, I WAS ON THE BOARD FOR FOUR, ALMOST FIVE YEARS THAT BEEN OFF FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I, I PERSONALLY KNOW SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS NOW. WE HAVE A NEW CREW IN THERE THAT'S A LOT BETTER. OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY WILL, WILL GO UNNAMED AT THIS POINT. IS, UH, IS, IS I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH AND NO ONE IS MM-HMM. . UM, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS, I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THEM. EVERYONE THAT'S ON THERE NOW, I VOTED FOR SO [00:40:01] ANYWAY, SO I'M SORRY, SHOULD I NOT SAY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE STARTING A TANGENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. , I ADHD. HIT PAUSE AT ANYTIME. YEP. YEP. STARTING TO TANGENT A SUB-QUESTION TO WHAT HE SAID, JUST TO VERIFY WHAT YOU SAID. SO THAT HUNDRED-ISH FOOT SEGMENT FROM THE EDGE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE IT CONNECTS INTO SAUL STREET, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS WOULD BE THE ONES SAYING THAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR THE INITIAL BUILDING OF IT. CORRECT. ARE YOU THEN SAYING THAT YOU AND YOUR HOA WOULD THEN MAINTAIN THAT PORTION? NO. OR THE HUDDLE PARK HOA WITH THE, THE HATO PARK H HOA WOULD, WOULD NEED TO TAKE THAT ON? YES. PERFECT. I'M JUST, JUST VERIFYING. I KNOW IT, IT GETS COMPLICATED. NO, NO, NO. I MEAN IT'S GOOD AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP. I HOPE IT TURNS OUT CUZ THAT WOULD BE A GREAT LIKE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OTHER GROUPS TO, TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN CONNECTIONS. CUZ AS HE STATED, WE HAVE LOTS OF STUBBS RIGHT NOW THAT WE, BECAUSE OF COORDINATION DIDN'T EVER FINISH. SO WE HOPE THIS ONE REALLY DOES WORK OUT. AND THERE IS AN EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT, CORRECT. GO THERE. YES. MM-HMM. . YEP. SO KIND OF, UH, DOVETAILING ONTO THE SIDEWALKS, UH, WANT TO KNOW, UH, JUST CONFIRMATION, THIS IS NOT A GATED COMMUNITY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WILL BE MM-HMM. IT WILL BE. MM-HMM. . YES. SO HOW IS PUBLIC GOING TO CROSS EMORY OR SORRY, CROSS EDGE SCHMIDT AND GAIN ACCESS TO THE PARK? YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I THINK, I THINK THE ANSWER TO TO THAT IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT THROUGH THE PUBLIC TRAIL SYSTEM. SO IF YOU LET ME BACK UP. SO, SO JUST VEHICLE ACCESS. I WAS GONNA SAY TO CLARIFY THOUGH, USUALLY A GATED COMMUNITY DOESN'T INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. CORRECT. SO PEDESTRIAN SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH BECAUSE ESPECIALLY BACK HERE IN THE REAR WHERE YOU HAVE THAT, WHAT YOU CALL VIEWING FENCE MM-HMM. MM-HMM , UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT SOME KIND OF ACTUAL ACCESS GATE WITH A CARD OR SOMETHING FOR PEDESTRIANS? THERE WILL BE. OKAY. SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE PARKS PLAN. SO WE HAVE A GATE CALLED OUT. SO WE HAVE A, AN INTERNAL PRIVATE MM-HMM. TRAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE USE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT KIND OF COAST TO HERE. SO RIGHT HERE, YEAH. SO THIS IS THE VIEW FENCING AND THEN THERE WILL BE A GATE HERE TO BE ABLE FOR OUR RESIDENCES TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS. BUT THE PLAN IS FOR THIS TO BE A NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM, OKAY. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. SO, SO THEN THE TWO ACCESS POINTS, VEHICLE ACCESS POINTS ARE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE GATED OFF AND NO PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS PARK FROM, I'M GONNA SAY COTTONWOOD ACROSS THE STREET. I WOULD, I SAY THAT THAT IS, YOU'RE GONNA TO GET IN THE CAR, TRUE CAR, GET IN A CAR DRIVE UP INTO EMORY CROSSING OR INTO OTTO PARK, NOT EVEN TO EMORY PARK CROSSING CUZ YOU CAN'T GET INTO IT. GET INTO IT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY ON LIMBER LOOP AROUND TO HEDO PARK PARK. WHY COULDN'T'T YOU GET, WHY COULDN'T YOU GET INTO IT FROM EMORY CROSSING? BECAUSE IT'LL BE GATED. OH, EMORY CROSSING IS EMORY CROSSING, I'M SORRY, EMORY CROSSING. YEAH. SO THIS, SO THIS COMMUNITY HERE HAS PUBLIC ROADS THAT COULD BE ACCESSED. THIS COMMUNITY HERE HAS PUBLIC ROADS THAT COULD BE ACCESSED. RIGHT? SO THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THE PARK IS THEN TO GET INTO A, IN A CAR AND DRIVE TO THE PARK IF YOU'RE WITH COTTONWOOD FARMS, EITHER THAT OR USE THE SIDEWALKS ON EDGE SCHMIDT TO GET UP TO EMORY CROSSING. I MEAN, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT. UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S 2,500 HOMES THAT DO HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO IT AS IT IS RIGHT. FROM YEAH. OH YEAH. YEP. I'M I'M DEFINITELY TRACKING ON THAT. I'M JUST CLARIFYING THAT. SURE. YEAH. EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF ED SCHMIDT DOES NOT HAVE WALKABILITY TO, AND I WILL ALSO JUST SAY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, UM, SO THIS ROAD EXTENSION WILL BE PUBLIC AND WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS. YEAH. AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT HERE, ASSUMING IF IT'S APPROVED. UM, AND SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE A REALLY GOOD ROUTE FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN PARK. BUT JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN WE SAY THAT, IS THAT ROAD EXTENSION A REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE CITY? BECAUSE IF THERE'S A STUBB STREET, YES, WE TRY TO, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT WITH MOST OF THEM IN THE UDC. IF THERE IS A STUBB STREET, WE ARE REQUESTING EXTENSIONS OF THOSE. SO, SO WE HAVE PUBLIC ROADWAYS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN BACK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT COUNTY ROAD 1660 SOUTH, OR SORRY, FM 1660 SOUTH AND COUNTY ROAD 1 37, WHERE THEY HAD PROPOSED A GATED SUBDIVISION WHERE LIKE YOU HAVE TWO STUB STREETS. WE NEED THE, WE NEED PUBLIC STREETS TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE CHILDREN TO FARLEY AND THE OTHER SCHOOLS. BUT I'M, I'M JUST, I HAVEN'T CON AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP AND YOU, YOU WERE PROBABLY GONNA STATE THIS, SO HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER, BUT JUMP IN. I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED NOW BECAUSE ONE, YOU, YOU NOW HAVE NO ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THE QUESTION UP ABOUT THE, [00:45:01] THE SIDEWALK CONNECTING TO THE EDGE SCHMIDT SIDEWALK MM-HMM. , YEAH. IS, I MEAN, YOU HAVE SCHOOLS UP 1660 THAT EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING TO, UM, WELL SCHOOLS ALL OVER THE PLACE PLUS NEW ONES COMING IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO YOU NEED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS NOT JUST TO THE PARK, BUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, TWO, THE, THE THING THAT, THAT STREET MIGHT CONNECT, I WOULD SAY YES THAT'S STUBB STREET, BUT WE ALSO JUST HAD A SITUATION DOWN ON LIMMER LOOP, WHEREAS STUBB, STREETE NO LONGER WENT THROUGH ONLY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO DO A DIFFERENT, UM, AVENUE. AND SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ONCE THIS COMES, WHENEVER THAT THAT STREET WILL NOT GO THROUGH. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WILL, AND, AND IF THAT DEVELOPMENT DECIDES THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY, THEN NOW YOU'RE LIMITING PEOPLE TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY NORTH TO THE EMORY CROSSING ENTRANCE TO THEN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PARK OR EVEN TO GET TO 1660 MM-HMM. . SO I'M SAYING ALL OF THAT, THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS SAYING ALL OF THAT TO SAY, HOW CAN YOU GUYS POTENTIALLY WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT, EASE THOSE OR MAKE THAT ACCESS A LITTLE EASIER THROUGH EITHER A POTENTIAL EASEMENT MM-HMM. OR AN ADDITION OF ANOTHER TRAIL OR, OR POTENTIALLY ONLY, I DON'T WANNA SAY JUST RESTRICTING ACCESS TO VEHICLES, CUZ THAT DOESN'T HELP IT STAY A PRIVATE AREA, BUT MM-HMM. , HOW CAN YOU HELP THE CONNECTIVITY BETTER FROM THE WEST? AGAIN, I THINK, UM, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO FACILITATE THAT CONNECTIVITY IS THROUGH THE SIDEWALKS ALONG ED SCHMIDT AND EMORY CROSSING. AND I'M PERSONALLY WORKING ON THIS PUT HERE AND WE'RE PUTTING IN, IN THERE THAT IT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE EXTENDED IN ADDITION TO THE SUBDIVISION CODE THAT ARE, ARE ALSO DOES REQUIRE THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS THERE COULD BE AN OPTION FOR SOME SORT OF PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, BUT IT, IT, IT'S JUST SUCH A TIGHT SIGHT ALREADY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY, UM, A BIG PILL TO SWALLOW FOR THIS ONE. SO QUESTION, UM, CAN WE FLIP BACK TO THE, THE DIFFERENT FENCINGS? SURE. THAT'S THE ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT, THAT, UH, DR. 70 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS NOT WALLED OFF ACCORDING TO WHAT I'M SEEING AT THE FRONT SIDE, WHICH MAKES SENSE. WATER DOESN'T FLOW THROUGH WALLS VERY WELL. SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ONLY ACCESS ALONG THAT DRAIN EASEMENT? AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR CITY AS WELL AS DEVELOPER. COULD WE PUT A TRAIL CONNECTION THROUGH THERE? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TRAIL CONNECTION THROUGH A FLOODPLAIN. SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THE RULE IS. IT JUST, IT'S AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER WATERWAY, IF THAT HELPS. WELL THAT DOES HELP, BUT NOT A LOT . UM, I WAS LIKE, IF IT'S CITY, WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS. IF IT'S A CORE PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE TYPICALLY IF IT'S FOR DRAINAGE FLOODPLAIN, IT FLOODS, IT GOES AWAY. IF IT'S A DRAINAGE, IT'S TRULY FOR CONVEYANCE. SO TYPICALLY YOU WON'T GET A SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING IN THERE. MM-HMM. . UM, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT ONE. OKAY. BUT I JUST CAN'T, I MEAN, YEAH, I CAN'T IMAGINE. I'M THINKING THAT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN. WE CAN'T RESTRICT THAT. MM-HMM. , THE WATER'S GOTTA FLOW THROUGH. WELL, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE HIKING THE TRAILS DURING A FLOOD, SO MAYBE WE COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT THERE. CAN, CAN WE TAKE, GET THAT ACCESS, LOOK INTO THAT MAYBE PRIOR TO COUNCIL AND SEE IF THAT'S YES. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO, WOULD YOU BE MINIMALLY INTO LIKE A DG PATH? YEAH, YEAH. A, A DG PATH. CAN YOU DO DG IN THE CORE? I DON'T THINK YOU AFFECT IMPER OR I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TOUCH IT. YEAH. NOTHING. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. TYPICALLY THAT'S ONE THAT ASSUME YOU'RE LIKE, IT'S THE CORN. I'M LIKE WHAT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S THE MOST STRINGENT WATERWAY OF ALL THE WATERWAYS. YEAH. TYPICALLY IT IS. I MEAN I CERTAINLY HEAR THE CONCERNS ON THAT. I THINK, YEAH, MOST OF IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY AROUND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE KNOW. MM-HMM. UM, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH, WE'RE GOING AROUND AND THEN ONCE THE CITY CONTINUES AND I THINK PARKS IS REALLY, UM, DOING A GOOD JOB OF THEIR TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, THEN THAT EVERYTHING BACK THERE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE THAT TRAIL ISN'T JUST FOR THIS, IT ACTUALLY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LIMMER 1660. EXACTLY. IT CONTINUES. SO ONCE WE GET MORE TRAILS BUILT, I THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE ACCESS BACK THERE. UM, AND THEN KNOWING THE EMORY PROJECT TO THE NORTH, THERE IS SOME ON STREETE PARKING, SO THERE WILL BE SOME ABILITY KIND OF JUST TO GO PARK, GET INTO THE TRAIL HEAD. MM-HMM. , THAT'S HOW THAT MAIN EASTWEST STREET WAS BUILT AROUND THAT ROUNDABOUT. THERE'S ACTUALLY ON EITHER SIDE THERE'S UM, [00:50:01] ON STREET PARKING THROUGH THERE, UM, THAT WAS ALREADY DONE AND THAT WAS PART OF THAT P AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE KINDA LOOKED AT IT LIKE, OKAY, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR INNER AREA, WE'LL GET THE PUBLIC TRAIL, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRAIL CONNECTIONS TO GO IN THROUGH PUBLIC STREETS. MM-HMM. AND NON-PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT THEN ALSO BENEFITING ALL THOSE RESIDENTS FOR NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT THE MOST QUICKLY. RIGHT. UM, CERTAINLY I WOULD AT THIS POINT, JUST KNOWING THAT I'D DRIVE ON EDGEMAN A LOT, I'D PROBABLY DISCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC MID-BLOCK UNLESS WE ARE GETTING, UM, LIGHTS OR SOMETHING, BUT MM-HMM. , THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS COMING IN. CAN YOU FLIP TO THE OTHER ONE WHERE IT SHOWED MORE OF THAT EDGEMAN THE WEST SIDE? SORRY, AMANDA. UM, I THINK IT'S, WE ARE GETTING A PROJECT THAT YOU'LL END UP SEEING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO THAT IS JUST NORTH OF COTTONWOOD FARMS. SO YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THERE, THAT THEY WILL END UP HAVING SOME CONNECTIVITY TO THAT MAIN, UM, EMORY POINT AT EDGE SCHMIDT. AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE, UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION TO SEE IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A LIT INTERSECTION AT THIS POINT. SO THERE WILL BE MORE CONNECTIONS. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. IT IS ON, SHE'S GOT SOME AND THEN I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT, THAT ONE IS COMING IN AS WELL THAT WILL BE NORTH OF COTTONWOOD. SO ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS TO HOPEFULLY GET THEM ACROSS. MM-HMM. YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THE ON IN THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR, THE PURPLE TRAIL, IT DOESN'T APPROACH ED SCHMIDT NOW IT DOES HAVE THE SIDEWALK THROUGH THE, THE DOUBLE ENTRY ONTO ED SCHMIDT. THAT'S THE VEHICLE ENTRY. SO THAT'S OKAY. BUT IT'S JUST OKAY. IT'S NOT OUTSTANDING. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M GOING FOR IS, HEY, IF WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL TRAIL CONNECTIONS, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. IF WE CAN'T, I UNDERSTAND ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TRUMPS EVERYBODY ELSE. GOT IT. BUT IF WE CAN SOMEHOW WORK THAT OUT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AND ANOTHER SELLING POINT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. HEY LOOK, WE'VE GOT THESE CONNECTED IN, WE'VE GOT THESE CONNECTED IN, YOU'VE GOT TO START PLUGGING STUFF IN HERE GUYS. NO QUESTION. NO DEBATE. SO THAT, THAT WAS MY THOUGHT ON THAT . UM, NEXT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE BUILDING STUFF. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THESE DOORWAYS DO NOT APPEAR TO BE VERY WIDE. OKAY. AND I'M THINKING A D A ACCESS AND WHEELCHAIR ACCESS, WHICH THEN GOT ME THINKING ABOUT PARKING. OKAY. IF THIS IS A FULL RENT PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING IN ORDER TO HAVE A D A ACCESS, CORRECT? YES. AND YOU DON'T HAVE COVERED PARKING ON YOUR CONCEPTUAL PLANS. UHHUH, . SO THERE, JUST TO CONFIRM, THERE IS NO GARAGE ANYWHERE ON THE SITE. UM, LET ME CHECK. UM, A MINIMUM OF 20% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING WILL BE LOCATED IN A DETACHED PARKING GARAGE. PARKING. OKAY. SO IT IS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE GARAGES. MM-HMM. , I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE GARAGES AND COVERED PARKING AS WELL. N NO, IT'LL JUST BE THE GARAGES. JUST THE GARAGE. YOU MEAN LIKE THE CARPORT THING? YES, EXACTLY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS JUST A CONCERN BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THOSE DOORS AND WENT, WOW, THOSE ARE NARROW. I DON'T THINK YOU'D GET A WHEELCHAIR. WAIT A MINUTE. WHERE'S THE, WHERE ARE THE ADA PEOPLE GOING TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES IF THIS IS FOR RENT AND CONSTANTLY CHANGING? YEAH. AND, AND, AND THERE'S CERTAINLY FEDERAL LAWS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY. THAT REQUIRE VISIBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY BE COMPLIANT WITH MM-HMM. . BUT IF, I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THESE UNITS ARE ADA COMPLIANT AND THESE AREN'T, OR IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT? AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS THAT THERE IS KIND OF A TIER, THERE'S VISIBILITY AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FULL 80 ACCESSIBILITY THAT HAS LIKE THE LOWER KIND OF CABINETS, I MEAN THE COUNTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THOSE ARE, ARE DIFFERENT. SO VISIBILITY. OKAY. YES. UM, FULLY ACCESSIBLE I THINK IS A RATIO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THOSE AS THESE ARE, I'M USED TO MULTI-FAMILY HAVING AD UH, MULTI-FAMILY, LIKE TYPICAL APARTMENT MM-HMM. . SO THIS CONCEPT IS A LITTLE ALL RIGHT. HOW'S THE ADA WORK ON A DETACHED FOUR HOME RENT ? RIGHT. THIS, THIS WILL BE REVIEWED FROM BUILDING CODE SIMILARLY TO, TO THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL I THINK THAT IS ALL I'VE GOT. YEAH, THAT LOOKS LIKE ALL [00:55:01] MY NOTES. . ALL RIGHT. UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SO, SO THE FULL GREEN HATCHED AREA IS ALL PARKLAND DEDICATION RATE. SO THAT WILL ALL GO TO THE CITY? CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS JUST THINKING AS WE'RE TALKING THE TRAIL CONNECTION, I MEAN, THERE IS STILL TRAIL THAT EVENTUALLY IN THE, IN THE FUTURE WILL CONTINUE DOWN THE CREEK. UM, SO I'M MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN STILL TEE OFF OF THE TRAIL THAT YOU GUYS ARE DEVELOPING TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I, I THINK THAT KIND OF EASES, I MEAN, EVEN THAT EASEMENT HELPS A LITTLE BIT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT A PAVED WAY TO ACCESS THE PARK, YOU STILL HAVE A WAY TO ACCESS THE PARK, EVEN IF YOU JUST HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT. SO THAT'S NOT HORRIBLE. THAT DOES MAKE ME REALLY CONFUSED HOW YOUR FENCING IS GOING TO WORK. YEAH. IF YOU'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE A HUGE GAP IN YOUR FENCING FOR THE EASEMENT AND THEN OPEN ON BOTH SIDES, OR, I THINK IT'S TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT, THOSE FENCING PLANS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COMMIT TO CERTAIN THINGS IN THE PU BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED AND DESIGN. YEAH. AND EITHER WAY, THE EASEMENT ITSELF WILL NOT BE FENCED OFF. CORRECT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CANNOT HAVE DRAINAGE COME TO A FENCE. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. JUST, OKAY, WE'RE GOOD THEN. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.1. UH, I CAN TRY, IF I CAN REMEMBER EVERYTHING. OKAY. UM, SO I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEM 5.1 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FIRST, UM, INTO SECTION 3 43. THAT SIDEWALKS MUST BE ADDED ALONG THE ENTRY ROAD TO CONNECT TO THE BOUNDING ROADWAYS AND NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST. UM, TWO FOR FENCING THAT AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE WILL BE ADDED ALONG THE NORTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE FOUR CONDITIONS FROM THE PARKS BOARD, DO WE NEED TO STATE THOSE OUT? HAVE THOSE OKAY. THE FOUR CONDITIONS FROM THE PARK BOARD AS PREVIOUSLY STATED. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A CORRECT SO THE EIGHT FOOT WOULD JUST BE A LONG BUDDING RESIDENTIAL, A BUDDING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. YES. BUT THE REASON I STATED THAT, AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN RESTATE IT, IS WHAT ELSE IS STILL HAPPENING AT EMORY CROSSING? ARE THERE ANY MORE UNITS BEING BUILT IN THAT AREA OR IS THAT GOING TO OPEN? PINCH POND? YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE FLOODPLAIN THROUGH THERE. I KNOW, BUT I'M SAYING AT EMORY CROSSING OR ANY MORE RESIDENCES BEING BUILT? NO. OH, YES. I MEAN, EMORY CROSSING DETENTION POND. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NOT ALONE. THAT PROPERTY LINE. YEAH. NOT THERE ANYTHING BEING BUILT RIGHT HERE. OH, NO, NO, NO HOMES. OKAY. THAT'S STAYING AS IS. OKAY. LOTS MORE HOMES THAN EMORY CROSSING. CROSS THE BOARD. JUST NOT RIGHT THERE. PERFECT. THEN YES, I WILL AMEND THAT TO STATE. HOWEVER, I STATED THAT, UH, THE FENCING WILL BE AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ADDED ALONG THE NORTH PORTION OF PROPERTY THAT IS ONLY FRONTING THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LEE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOYER. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DO WE, DO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT TO SAY ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL? DOES THAT MATTER THE CLARIFICATION, THE FRONTING TO A BUDDING, UH, YEAH. INSTEAD OF FRONTING, I THINK ABUTTING IS THE CORRECT TERM. OKAY. OR ADJACENT. YEAH. I HAVE NORTH ADJACENT TO THE HOMES ON MOOSE ADJACENT. I THINK THAT WORKS. YEAH. WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO THE HOMES ON MOOSE ROAD. YEP. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT. YES. SOUNDS GREAT. I MEAN, IT MADE SENSE TO ME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM 5.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED SJS. FINAL PLAT, 11.139 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT LOCATED ON LIMBER LOOP. SORRY, LET ME GET BACK TO IT. UM, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS SIMPLY A STATUTORY DENIAL. WE'VE HAD THESE ON HERE A FEW TIMES. IT JUST SIMPLY, UM, THIS IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER. YOU'VE SEEN THE PRELIMINARY COME THROUGH. THE FINAL PLAT JUST WASN'T THERE [01:00:01] YET. THE SAFEST ROUTE IS TO GET IT ON FOR DENIAL. IT'LL COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE. IT JUST WASN'T READY. THERE'S, THERE'S NO ISSUES. IT'S NOT, OH, DENY THIS ONE. IT'S NOT GONNA MEET. I'M FULLY CONFIDENT THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. IT'S JUST WE HAD A MEETING. IT IS SAFEST TO DENY WHEN WE ARE AT AN IMPASS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE, UM, STATE LAW READS. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL. THEY ARE AWARE THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONDING TO COMMENTS. THERE'S JUST SO LITTLE TIME AND SO MUCH WORK TO DO. . SO, UM, I DO HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. MM-HMM. ON THIS. MM-HMM. , UH, PAGE 12 HAS THE COMMENT TO INCLUDE OWNER NAMES FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. YEP. IS THIS, DOES THIS APPLY FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, OR IS THAT THE PROPERTY? THE HOA SUBDIVISION AS A WHOLE? THAT'S ACTUALLY ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR REVIEWS AND PART OF THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A COMPLETE PLAT, NOT A COMPLETE PLAT APPLICATION. MM-HMM. FOR, FOR CONTENT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ALL ADJACENT OWNERS TO BE CALLED OUT. SO IT'S A CLEANUP COMMENT ON THEIR PLAT. OKAY. SO, UH, JUST PROCEDURALLY, IF YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT A JONES OWNING THIS HOUSE AND A SMITH AND A VASQUEZ, DO YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY ALL THREE OF THEM AND PUT THOSE NAMES ON THERE? OR IS IT, SO WE WOULD NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS SUB, REGARDLESS, SUB SUBDIVISION AT, SO WE NOTIFY IT PRELIM, SO FOR THE FINAL, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO SEE THOSE NAMES. SO TYPICALLY YOU'LL JUST GET A LAST NAME AND USUALLY A RECORDATION NUMBER OR SOMETHING. OKAY. SHOWING WHEN THAT WAS BUILT. OKAY. UM, OR BOUGHT WHICHEVER ONE, UM, IT TIES BACK TO, OKAY. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE MINIMUM CONTENT REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE ON FINAL PLOTS. YEAH. YOU USUALLY, WELL, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN HAS BASICALLY BEEN OPEN FIELD OVER HERE OR THAT SORT OF THING. SO I'M LIKE, WAIT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? NOW IF MM-HMM. , YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE PLOTS COMING FORWARD. OKAY. BECAUSE THE CONTENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY WITH ONE LARGE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING A LOT MORE OF THAT. AND IT'S REALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SURVEYORS ARE COMING BACK THROUGH, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, YOU'RE BEING ABLE TO CROSS REFERENCE THOSE RECORDS. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. PLOTS ARE AMAZING. THEY'RE LINES ON A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT LINES ON A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF PAPER. OKAY. UM, DEFINING THAT UNIVERSE. SO, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS, IT'S BLACK AND WHITE. IT'S NOT THE MOST FUN PART OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION SO THAT IF THERE WAS EVER A MISTAKE, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR, YOU CAN PULL ALL OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS AROUND THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION. OKAY. OKAY. YEP. LIKE I SAID, PROCEDURAL QUESTION. YEP. YEAH. BUT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY SAW, WERE USING BLOOPING. THAT'S PART OF OUR, UM, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF OUR STAFF COMMENTS ON THESE. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT MORE OFTEN AS WE'RE, UM, LOOKING AT CHANGING OUR, SOME OF OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES. UM, SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, BUT YOU'LL DEFINITELY SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'RE TRYING TO BE A SUPER TRANSPARENT OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR IN A LOT OF THESE PLOTS. UM, AND THEN ALSO ENSURING THAT WE'RE MEETING EVERY SINGLE LIT POINT TO A T ON THE STATE LAW. LITTLE TRICK. T Z FIX YOUR, FIX YOUR BOX. . ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE DIAS? I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 5.2. UH, MOVE TO DISAPPROVE. I WILL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOYER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS TO DISAPPROVE 5.2 AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? WOULDN'T IT BE APPROVED? THE DISAPPROVAL TO DISAPPROVE? NO. A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE. OKAY. MOTION TO DISAPPROVE. YES. THANK YOU. . APPROVE THE, ALL RIGHT. UH, SO HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM 5.3. HOLD A PUBLIC EARRING ON THE PROPOSED TOWN WEST COMMONS. SECTION EIGHT, PRELIMINARY PLAT 15.7215 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT LOCATED ON ALLIANCE BOULEVARD AT US 79 WEST. SO THIS IS ONE WE ARE ONLY HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN, THIS ONE WAS NOT QUITE READY, BUT THEY WEREN'T COMMENTS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY CONDITION FOR APPROVAL. UM, SO WE ARE ONLY HOLDING A, UM, PUBLIC HEARING. WE DON'T HAVE A DENIAL OR ANYTHING WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THE COMMENTS. THIS TRULY IS JUST, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT TOWN. UM, TOWN WEST COMMONS. YOU MAY ALSO KNOW IT'S PART OF THE EVO SITE THAT WAS ANNOUNCED. UM, BUT WE, IT'S A PRELIM, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO WORK THROUGH ON A PRELIMINARY. YOU'VE GOT DRAINAGE AND TRAFFIC AND, UM, A BULK OF THOSE BIGGER, UH, FEE LIFTING, UM, ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS. SO [01:05:01] IT JUST, WE HAVE SOME TWEAKS THAT WASN'T READY YET. YOU WILL LIKELY SEE BOTH THIS PRELIM AND, UM, THE FINAL EITHER ON THE FOUR FOUR OR THAT SPECIAL CALLED FOUR 18 MEETING. SO WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD ON ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. BUT, UM, WANNA MAKE SURE AT AT LEAST WE GET THAT PUBLIC HEARING OUTTA WAY. IT WAS NOTICED TO 14 PEOPLE. NO ONE RESPONDED. I'M NOT VERY SURPRISED. IT'S MOSTLY COMMERCIAL . ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN, UM, I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:05 PM IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:05 PM AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME OR WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR ANY SORT OF REVIEW, WHICH, WHICH ONE WOULD BE PROCEDURALLY CORRECT? I'D PREFER IT ON THE NEXT, BECAUSE WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CHANGES ON THIS. OKAY. AND I'LL HAVE BETTER INFORMATION FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THEM WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER. PERFECT. I WILL SAVE MY NOTES THEN, OR IF YOU WANNA SEND 'EM TO ME. HMM. IF YOU WANNA SEND 'EM TO ME, WE CAN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF PERSON RESPOND. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO THAT REQUIRES NO ACTION. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT. SO FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I THINK THE ONLY THING I REALLY HAVE IS THAT IT'S ABOUT TO GET, WE THOUGHT WE WERE BUSY, WE WEREN'T, WE'RE GETTING BUSY NOW. UM, . SO, UM, WE DO HAVE THE MEETING ON APRIL 4TH, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE FOLLOW UP MEETING ON APRIL 18TH. THIS IS ALL MOSTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MEET THE DEADLINES THAT WE NEED, UM, FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER PROJECTS. AND WE ARE STILL PUSHING FORWARD INTERNALLY. SO WE JUST HAVE A FEW EXTRA OPTIONS TO GET SOME THINGS DONE. PART OF THAT, AND PART OF WHAT YOU SAID TONIGHT IS THE S SCRS HAD BEEN, OR THE SERVICE A EXTENSION REQUESTS HAD BEEN DELAYED. SO NOW WE HAVE A SLEW OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN READY ALL AT ONCE AND WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THEM WITHOUT HAVING SIX HOUR MEETINGS. UM, SO IT IS HELPING. SO ON A SPECIAL CALL, YOU WON'T JUST SEE US HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET SOME MORE THINGS ON THERE FOR YOU SO THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF. IT'S WORTH YOUR TIME TO SHOW UP AND ACTUALLY GET SOME, SOME GOOD WORK IN. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS ONE MORE PROJECT THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH THAN THE PROJECT THAT YOU SAW TONIGHT FOR THE P U D, IT WAS NOTICED, BUT IT WAS IN ERROR. AND SO WE ARE RE NOTICING FOR THAT. UM, WE DID HAVE A FEW CALLS ON IT. EVERYBODY THAT CALLED OR SAID ANYTHING, WE LET THEM KNOW WE'RE GONNA RE-NOTICE ON IT. IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE THIS PROJECT AND WE HAD TWO WITH UM, SIMILAR NAMES. SO BOTH OF THEM WENT OUT MM-HMM. AND WE DID NOT REALIZE IT UNTIL AFTER, WELL AFTER, WITHOUT ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY SEND OUT POSTCARDS TO SAY, HEY, THIS WAS, UM, THIS WAS AN ERROR, THIS IS CANCELED. UM, WE'RE FINE. I'LL PROBABLY TABLE THAT PUBLIC HEARING ONCE WE GET TO COUNSEL JUST BECAUSE IT'S EASIER. BUT EVEN THEN WE MAY JUST HOLD IT, SAY IT WAS, IT'S DONE. OR AT LEAST PUT SOMETHING ON THERE SAYING JUST DONE. BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK. WE WANNA ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE THE DECENT, LIKE THE GOOD INFORMATION ON WHAT IT IS. MM-HMM. NOT JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE HAVING ONE, BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. MM-HMM. , WE WANT THAT INTERACTION AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES ON THAT ONE AFTER TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND AGAIN, I SAID IT ON A PRIOR ITEM. WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR PROCESSES, UM, INTERNAL AS A STAFF, REALLY JUST ON DEVELOPMENT OF WHEN CAN WE DO CONCURRENCY, WHEN CAN WE START DOING SOME THINGS? YOU MIGHT SEE SOME TWEAKS ON HOW WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS TO YOU. I THINK THE BIG ONE THAT YOU'LL START SEEING MORE SO IS ALL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU. UM, TRYING TO SHOW YOU HOW WE ARE ENACTING. WE DO HAVE A FEW OF THOSE LINGERING PROJECTS THAT WE MADE SPACE FOR MM-HMM. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT CERTAINLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU'LL SEE HOW THIS MEETS, HOW IT DOESN'T MEET. YOU'LL HOPEFULLY NOT SEE TOO MANY TWO FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS CUZ WE JUST ADOPTED THE COMP PLAN. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE OF HATO IS ALSO EVER CHANGING. RIGHT. SO AS WE SEE THINGS CHANGE, WE WILL ALSO BE, UM, RECEPTIVE TO THAT AND THEN HOPEFULLY MORE A LITTLE WE'LL GO OUT AND ACTUALLY START LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS ANNUALLY, WHICH I THINK IS CALLED FOR IN THE, THE END OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO LOOK THROUGH WHAT WE'VE ALL DONE. MM-HMM. AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PORTION. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF IS NOW WORKING ON. OKAY. UM, QUESTION ON THE UDC REWRITE AND UPDATE HAS, IS THERE ANY NEWS ON THAT FRONT? I WANTED TO JUST TELL YOU. NO, BUT I WOULD BE LYING. . THERE IS, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE RFQ APPROVED AND ACTUALLY LET ME GET IN BECAUSE I SAW THE EMAIL EARLIER, BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER THE DATES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE SHOULD BE GETTING THAT ONE OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. I WANNA SAY, LET ME, I CAN DO A REALLY QUICK SEARCH AND ACTUALLY GIVE YOU, UM, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT OF DATES. IT LOOKS LIKE SOLICITATION RELEASE DATE WILL BE APRIL 2ND FOR THE [01:10:01] UDC RFQ. OKAY. SO REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. WE HAVEN'T A FEW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AROUND AFTER YOU DO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR IN A PRIOR YEAR AND IT WAS JUST HOLDOVER. SO WE'VE JUST BEEN SITTING ON THAT, JUST WAITING FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN GET THE RFQ OUT. SO, OKAY. YOU SHOULD SEE MOVEMENT ON THAT. THE DEADLINE WILL BE MID-APRIL, SO AROUND THE 20TH OR SO. UM, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL CHOOSING. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT YEAH, YOU'LL SEE SOME ACTIVITY STARTING UP NOW THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED CUZ EVERYTHING GOT APPROVED JANUARY, FEBRUARY, SO OKAY. TOOK A MONTH TO GET THE RFQ TOGETHER. TRY, TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA BE? WE DID ADD IN, UM, THE REQUEST TO DO THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT ALL OF OUR STANDARDS MATCH BY THE END OF THE UDC. OH, GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE TO HAVE EVERYTHING WORK OUT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, UM, MONIES THAT COUNCIL HAD, UM, PROVIDED AND APPROVED IN A PRIOR, UM, BUDGET YEAR, I THINK WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO DO BOTH. UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN THAT BUDGETING PERIOD, SO WE'LL PROBABLY SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE BUDGET, UM, WHEN WE START GETTING INTO THAT OF JUST SOME CONTINGENCY IF WE WERE TO NEED IT BETWEEN MY GROUP AND THE ENGINEERING GROUP ON THE REST OF IT. UM, AND I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION THEN IS I KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT DOING SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS. HOW INVOLVED IS DEVELOPMENT AND I'M WANNA SAY PLANNING AND ZONING IN THAT. SO, STRATEGIC PLANNING, FROM WHAT I KNOW, THEIR FIRST MEETING WAS ACTUALLY, UM, JUST BEFORE SPRING BREAK AND IT WAS A FRIDAY, SATURDAY MM-HMM. . AND SO THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT. UM, SO IT WASN'T, SOME STAFF WAS THERE, UM, BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THE BOARDS HAD TO BE INVOLVED WITH. SO THEY'RE GONNA SET THEIR PLAN AND THEN, UM, I THINK THAT'LL ALL GET FILTERED OUT TO ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. UM, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. SO TO BE CLEAR THEN, THE STRATEGIC PLANNING IS THEM PASSING DOWN THEIR VISION AND REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE COMP PLAN, ET CETERA, ALL THE SURVEYS, ALL THE CITIZEN INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, THAT'S NOT BEING FED INTO THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN? NO, I THINK IT IS. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY IT IS. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY HAD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN I THINK A FEW WEEKS LATER AT ANOTHER MEETING THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, RIGHT. UM, ALSO WENT TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. SO I THINK ALL OF THAT PLAYED INTO IT FROM ALL THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN. I THINK THEY'RE WELL AWARE AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF FOCUSING THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN. FOR ME, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT COMES NEXT, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS OF ONCE THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS OUT, WHAT I HAD TOLD THEM AT A MEETING, I BELIEVE SEVERAL OF YOU WERE AT, UM, IS ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS FOR THE CITY AND WE HAVE THAT DIRECTION SET, I'D WANNA COME BACK WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD ALSO BE WORKING ON AS A BOARD AND AS A GROUP. YEAH. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF DATA IN FROM THE CITY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THE SURVEY THAT WAS JUST DONE AND PRESENTED, I, I WANT TO SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT GOING INTO THIS AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO DROP THE BALL IN A CERTAIN AREA. I DON'T THINK SO AT ALL. I THINK WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN, I THINK IT WAS ALL RECEIVED AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN COME OUTTA THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. UM, IT SOUNDS REMARKABLE TO ME. COOL. YEAH, I HAD STAFF MEMBERS THAT WENT, I WAS UNFORTUNATELY OUT AND I WAS LIKE, HOW DID IT GO ? I WAS REALLY, IT WAS KIND OF BUMMED THAT I HAD TO MISS IT, BUT, UM, IT WAS, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME. AND THEN I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN AS A CITY, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE CITY COUNCIL COME FORWARD WITH THAT, UM, TAKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO ACCOUNT. YEAH. AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY SET OUR, OUR DRIVING PATH. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO START BUDGET SEASON AGAIN, SO. EXACTLY. YEP. IT ALL TIES IN WELL THE UDC REWRITE, DOES THAT INCLUDE US GOING TO MUNI CODE? I HOPE SO. OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOAL. WE'RE ALREADY TRYING TO WORK WITH THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY USED FRANKLIN FOR THE CITY CODE. UM, ORIGINALLY WE HAD BEEN TOLD NO BECAUSE WE HAVE A MORE, UM, GRAPHIC HEAVY UDC MM-HMM. . YEAH. WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SECRETARY HAD BEEN WORKING ON WITH THEM OF, OKAY, WELL WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS HOSTED ONLINE? BECAUSE JUST HAVING A PDF, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE PDF DOWNLOADS GREAT AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. MM-HMM. . UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. BUT THAT IS ONE THING THAT, UM, I'VE GOT ON MY LIST OF THINGS OF LIKE, THIS HAS TO BE READY TO HOST ON A SITE. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO HAVE JUST A PDF. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. JUST A FULL PRINTABLE VERSION WOULD BE GREAT. YES. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM, UH, DEVELOPMENT [01:15:01] SERVICES? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. WELL THEN WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT 8:15 PM AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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