* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Planning and Zoning] [00:00:06] THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK, SO I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, MAY 2ND, 2023 TO ORDER. FIRST UP IS ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER MORRIS. HERE. COMMISSIONER LEE HERE. COMMISSIONER LAWYER HERE. COMMISSIONER SCHWART FIGURE IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER MEYER IS ABSENT. I AM PRESENT. AND COMMISSIONER BOYER? I AM HERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT. AGENDA ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MARCH 7TH, 2023. 4.2 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 4TH, 2023 AND 4.3 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED SJS FINAL PLAT, 11.139 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT LOCATED ON LIER LOOP. UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOUR POINT, UH, I DON'T KNOW. SHOULD I PULL FOUR? YEAH, PULL 4.3. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. OBJECTION. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.1 AND 4.2. I PRESENT A MOTION TO ACCEPT 4.1 AND 4.2 AS IS SECOND. SECOND. I GOT YOU FIRST. CAN WE AMEND THAT TO CHANGE? TO FIX MY NAME? YES. OKAY. OF COURSE ALL OF THAT WILL BE FIXED. SHE WAS WORKING ON THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. NEXT IS 4.3 ON, UH, THIS ONE. I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE SUBJECT VERSUS THE BACKGROUND. RIGHT. SO THE SUBJECT I SEE IS FOR ONE COMMERCIAL LOT. OH, DID I? IT'S A MIA TYPO AND THE BACKGROUND IS FOR FIVE. IT IS FIVE. SORRY, IT'S A ME ISSUE. OKAY. IT'S NOT YOU ISSUE. IS THAT GONNA BE AN ISSUE? NO, SINCE IT'S JUST ON THE AGENDA, BRIEF SHEET. NO, IT'S NOT. OKAY. IT'S FINE. THAT, THAT WAS MY CONCERN. OKAY. THEN WHERE IS THAT UH, ERROR AT? SO THE ERROR IS ON THE, IT SAYS ONE WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THE AGENDA ITEM. IT SAYS ONE LOT. IT'S ACTUALLY FIVE WATTS. SO THERE'S A PORTION THAT'S CORRECT IN THE AGENDA SECTION ITEM UNDER BACKGROUND ON THE, ON THE SUBJECT. THE SECOND LINE ON SAYS PAGE 10. OKAY. YEAH, PAGE 10. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I NEED. THANK YOU. ONE COMMERCIAL LOT AND IN THE BACKGROUND IT SAYS FIVE. UNDERSTAND DISCREPANCY THERE. UM, I, I HAD A QUESTION SINCE WE PULLED THIS. I, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PRELIMINARY IF WE ASK THIS, BUT, UM, WHAT TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN ACT, OH, WHAT TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS GONNA BE GRANTED BETWEEN THE REAR OF THIS SITE AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? NONE AT THIS POINT. NONE. NONE. IT WOULD ALL BE DONE THROUGH PERIMETER, UM, SIDEWALKS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY AND, AND OTHERS ARE NOT REALLY UP FOR PUTTING SIDEWALKS ON MAJOR ROADS AT THE MOMENT, THE PLAT SAYS THEY HAVE TO PUT THEM. SO OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HOLD THEM TO THAT. BUT THAT WILL BE THE, THIS IS THE ETHNICITY, SO WE'LL DO THEM. YES. SO THAT'S THE, THE ONLY WAY THAT THOSE RESIDENTS EVEN ON THE CUL-DE-SAC OR THAT EASEMENT ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS DEVELOPMENT? TYPICALLY. YES. CUZ THAT'S THE FULL RIGHT OF WAY LINE. THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, UNLESS WE WERE ABLE TO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CODE TO HOLD ANY ONE, TWO ON THE COMMERCIAL LOTS TO CONTACT THE HOA. WE CAN ASK AND JUST SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS? THAT'S TYPICALLY GONNA BE BACK OF HOUSE AND THEY'RE GONNA WANT A FULL MASONRY WALL. YEAH. AND, AND THE REASON I JUST ASK IS BECAUSE I MEAN YOU DO HAVE TWO CUL-DE-SACS THAT ARE LITERALLY ENDING INTO A MASONRY WALL, UM, AS WELL AS AN EASEMENT THERE AS WELL. SO I MEAN, YOU HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THAT'S NOT GONNA HINDER A RESIDENT. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE ASK AT THE SITE PLANNING. UM, OKAY. IT WOULD JUST BE IN AN UNOFFICIAL LIKE, HEY, COULD YOU DO THIS? BUT IT, WE CAN'T HOLD 'EM TO IT. OKAY. AND THERE IS A SIDEWALK LONG REDFISH, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THAT'S IN THE CITY, THEIR, THEIR SIDEWALK, I MEAN. OKAY. OKAY. WHERES REDFISH? THE ROAD TO THE LEFT WEST STREET WEST. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, THIS WAS ALL ANNEXED AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THAT WILCO RANCHER, HOWEVER THEY'RE MARKETING IT. IT CAUGHT BROOK SOMETHING [00:05:01] WELL ON, ON THAT CIRCLE FOR A GRAY FOX COVE. I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THAT CIRCLE GOES OVER THE RIGHT OF WAY, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S ON THE, NO, IT GOES RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE. MM-HMM. . YES, I AGREE. AND THEN THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS JUST A, A UTILITY. I MEAN THAT EASEMENT IS JUST UTILITY. MM-HMM. . YEAH, THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.3? HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.3. ALL RIGHT. I WILL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT 4.3 AS PRESENTED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEE TO UH, APPROVE 4.3 AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM 5.1 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED TOM WEST COMMONS. SECTION EIGHT FINAL PLAT 15.7215 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT LOCATED ON ALLIANCE BOULEVARD AT US 79. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SCREEN UP HERE, THIS IS THE SINGLE LOT. YOU'LL ALSO REMEMBER THIS IS WHERE THE EVO AND THE ACADEMY, UM, WERE ANNOUNCED. THIS IS JUST A SINGLE LOT COMMERCIAL PLOT. IT'S ALREADY BEEN ZONED, UM, P D WITH A BACKGROUND OF UM, B2. AND THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEP IN PROGRESSING AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THERE WAS, IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THE SITE, THERE IS A GRADING PERMIT AND GRADING IS CURRENTLY OCCURRING ON SITE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. UM, SO WE JUST RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE DO HAVE ONE CONDITION THAT ALL PROPOSED EASEMENTS WILL BE SHOWN ON THE FACE OF THE SCHEMATIC PRIOR TO PLAT RECORDATION. LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE EASEMENT CONFLICTS. OKAY. WELL ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD ON THIS ONE EARLIER THAT WE WERE HOPING TO SEE IN, UH, THE SITE PLAN WAS THE CONNECTING ROAD BE IN FRONT OF THE Y M C A TO LOWE'S SEEING THAT SOMEHOW DISPLAYED. SO THAT'S ON ACTUAL ROAD, IT'S JUST A DRIVEWAY. MM-HMM. . SO IT'LL JUST BE ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT THERE SHOULD BE, UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE ONCE WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH, THERE ARE NOTES FOR A JOINT ACCESS EASEMENT. SO IT'LL GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS CUZ THE Y M C A LOT IS STILL OWNED, UM, BY THE CITY OF HUK AND THIS GOES UP THROUGH IT. RIGHT. SO WE'LL GET THOSE AT SITE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY OVER THE DRIVEWAY AND NOT ERRONEOUSLY PLACED ON A FLAT. OKAY. THAT SINCE THAT'S CITY OWNED PROPERTY, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS STILL CONNECTED. YEAH, WE HAVE TO, IT'S A FIRE LINE. OKAY. SO, UM, UH, YOU, YOU MENTIONED JOINT AC USE ACCESS EASEMENTS. SO ALONG ALLIANCE BOULEVARD, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO PUT ANY MORE UM, ACCESS POINTS ALONG THERE OR JUST THE Y M C A AND THE CURRENT ONE TO THE SOUTH SO THEY CAN HAVE ONE MORE. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S ON THEIR SITE PLAN. UM, IT WILL LIKELY BE SHARED WITH THAT Y M C ON THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION JUST SO YOU CAN GET YOUR SPACE IN. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN A QUESTION THAT I THINK WE ASKED THE PRELIMINARY THAT I WANTED TO BRING BACK AGAIN IS WHAT WITH ALLIANCE AND ITS FUTURE EXPANSION AND REALLY SOON EXPANSION WITH ALL OF THIS, I KNOW WE HAD ALREADY TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER ON THE WEST THAT WE APPROVED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TO ASSIST WITH THE EXPANSION OF ALLIANCE. UM, WHAT IS THIS DEVELOPER DOING TO HELP ASSIST WITH THE EXPANSION OF ALLIANCE EITHER DURING OR BEFORE DEVELOPMENT? THERE IS NOT MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT WAS CALLED OUT IN THE T I THINK THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF THEIR IMPROVEMENTS IN INTERNAL 2 79 TO GET A CROSS, UM, LEFT-HAND TURN LANE. MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD ON THE T I? YEAH. UM, THE MICROPHONES? YES. THAT BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ON . UH, MICHAEL WE CAN HEAR YOU. PROPERTY DEVELOPER, UH, THE TOWN WEST COMMONS. UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH TECH DOT. WE'VE ALREADY GOT APPROVAL OUT AT A LEFT TURN ONTO ALLIANCE BOULEVARD. MM-HMM. . SO IF YOU'RE COMING AS WELL AS A U-TURN. SO YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF IF YOU, IF YOU'RE COMING, IF YOU'RE GOING AC YOU COME BACK, YOU'RE GOING WEST AND YOU COME BACK TO THE EAST INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ROUND BLOCK, YOU COMING THERE AS WELL AS ANOTHER RIGHT TURN LANE COMING ONTO A [00:10:01] TRAFFIC THERE. UM, I DON'T THINK WE REQUEST FOR ANY RIGHT OF WAY. WE ARE A LITTLE HIM IN ON THAT SIDE THAT LONG MM-HMM. . SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE ROAD YEAH, NO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. MY, MY QUESTION WAS MORE A LONG ALLIANCE ALLIANCE CUZ RIGHT NOW IT'S A, IT'S A TWO-LANE, REALLY NOT VERY IMPROVED ROADWAY AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INCREASING, WELL THEN TRAFFIC TRAFFIC'S ALREADY INCREASING PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT NOW IT'S GONNA INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY TO GET INTO THE NOW THREE ACCESS POINTS THAT'LL BE THERE. UM, AND SO THE QUESTION WAS MORE OF WHAT, WHAT CAN YOUR DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY PROPOSE TO HELP BE THE PROCESS OF IMPROVING ALLIANCE? WE, WE'VE DONE THE TIA, IT DIDN'T SHOW THAT THERE RIGHT NOW. UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED WITH MATT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING WE KIND ARMSTRONG CLIENTS RIGHT NOW DITCH. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE TRAFFIC COME IN AND OUT AS MANY OPTIONS IN AND OUT OF THE CENTER SO THAT IT'S NOT ALL THE TRAFFIC'S NOT HAVING DRIVE. FOR INSTANCE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DRIVE KIND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE Y M C A PAD EVERY TURNING YMCAS SOUTH. SO IT'S NOT OKAY. AND, AND WE MENTIONED THIS A PRELIMINARY, BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UH, VERBALLY THAT THE ENTIRE UM, DRIVEWAY TO THE SOUTH THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND LIKE THE VERIZON AND THE STARBUCKS AND EVERYTHING, THAT WILL REMAIN ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ALLIANCE. CORRECT. THAT WILL REMAIN, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY IN A DEDICATED ACCESS EASEMENT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH. THAT'S PART OF YOU. WE WE DIDN'T OWN SONIC STARBUCKS BUILDING. YES. SO IT'S KIND OF IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE GUYS. THERE'S AN EASEMENT BETWEEN THOSE THREE DEGREES. THE DRIVE THAT RUNS FROM Y M C A AT LOWE'S, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE OVERALL GENERAL ALLOWS EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW MM-HMM. , I CAN DRIVE THROUGH YOUR PARKING LOT TO GET TO THAT PARKING COURSE NEED TO GET UPSET OVER SO THAT THAT ONE WON'T NECESSARILY BE IN DEFINED EASEMENT. BUT IN THE UH, D WHEN WE SOLD THE LAND FROM Y MCA THAT WAS SOLICIT. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REGRADE IT A LITTLE BIT. DEPEND ON SEE BETWEEN LOW THE ROAD . YES. LOVE. YEAH. SO TO AVOID HAVING FIVE STEPS IN FRONT OF THE ACADEMY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA REGRADE THAT ROAD A LITTLE BIT, WHICH WE'LL GET RID OF THAT HUMP. IT'S KINDA, YEAH. OKAY. NO, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH I DON'T MIND THAT HUMP JUST CUZ IT SLOWS TRAFFIC DOWN RIGHT THERE. . I'M NOT GONNA LIE, WELL THERE IS, THERE IS A STOP SIGN AS YOU GO INTO THE LOWS AND I, I, WE MAY WANT, WE MAY TALK TO LOWE'S ABOUT HAVING TO STOP SIGN FOR THE TRACTOR CUZ I, CAUSE I DROVE UP TONIGHT AND YOU KNOW, KINDA COME FROM THE HOTEL SIDE THAT'S DOING 50. RIGHT. AND THERE'S NOT A STOP SIGN FOR THEM. SO. YEAH. AND, AND THE BUILDING'S GOTTA, I THINK YOU NEED TO MITIGATE THAT WITH SOME TYPE OF BUMPS. LARGE BUMPS. YEAH. BUT THAT WOULD BE LOW ON LOWE'S PROPERTY, RIGHT? YEAH, LET'S DO RAISED CROSSWALKS DON'T DO LARGE BUMPS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. BUMPS. WELL, I MEAN BUMPS I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST NOT A SPEED BUMP BECAUSE LIKE A PARKING THING, IT'S MORE OF A FOUR TO FOUR INCH ELEVATED BUT THEY'RE SPEED TABLE. YEAH. SPEED TABLE THOSE WORDS. TWO FOOT. YES. YOU KNOW, DO NOT PUT SPEED BUMPS. OKAY. YES, I AGREE. I DON'T WANT THE, OKAY, I I HAVE A QUESTION. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALLIANCE SOUTHBOUND ALLIANCE WHERE IT TERMINATES ON 79 AND YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE LEFT TURN GOING EASTBOUND AND THEN ASSUME A RIGHT TURN GOING INTO, UM, FROM, FOR WESTBOUND ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY TURN LANES? THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LEFT TURN GOING BACK TOWARDS HUDSON. YOU COULDN'T GET THAT. OKAY. FROM TRIED, YOU KNOW, TRIED THE COURSE. WE CAN PULL MEDIA A TRAFFIC LIGHT. OKAY. TEXT SIGNAL. UM, SO THE BEST WE COULD GET WAS WHY I AGREE WITH THAT. COMING FROM THE EAST, YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT ONTO ALLIANCE. UM, SO ALLIANCE WILL STILL JUST BE A RIGHT OUT. UM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT OFF OF OH NO, NO I'M, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT TURN LANES. SO IF YOU'RE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE PA IF YOU'RE COMING, IF YOU'RE GOING WEST, SO IF YOU'RE COMING COMING FROM MAIN PART HOOD TOWARD THIS, YOU CAN, WE'RE GONNA ADD A RIGHT TURN LANE ONTO ALLIANCE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. SO IT GETS KIND TRAFFIC OUT OF THE WAY RIGHT. AND STARTS SLOWING DOWN. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN THERE'S LIKE I SAID, THERE'LL BE A RIGHT I UNDERST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT JUST TO NOT TO STACK UP THE TRAFFIC. YEAH. AND THEN KEEP IN MIND AS WELL, BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER CROSS ACCESS SOUTH OF THIS, THAT TURN LANE WILL HELP, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE OTHER TURN LANES TO GET THROUGH ONCE IT'S ALL BUILT. RIGHT? MM-HMM. DID YOU ALSO SAY IT WOULD BE A, A DOUBLE USE, UH, U-TURN LANE AS WELL TO HEAD BACK TOWARDS ROUND ROCK OR AM I THINKING OPPOSITE ALLIANCE? YOU CAN U-TURN. NO COMING. YOU'RE COMING IF YOU'RE COMING WEST. YES. MAKE A U-TURN. GO BACK TO THE EAST. SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU, SO THE OPPOSITE HAVE STARBUCKS EXIT. GOT IT. YEP. YOU CAN MAKE A U-TURN AND GO BACK INTO TOWN. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE HILL UNDER BLOCK A, [00:15:01] I ASSUME THAT IS GOING TO BE REGRADED OR FLATTENED OR REMOVED. YEP. IS THAT GOING TO SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT WATER FLOW OR ENGINEERING? NO, THE DRAINAGE PLAN WAS APPROVED WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. OKAY. THEY'VE GOT A LARGE LARGER DRAINAGE POND AT THE REAR OF THE LOT AND THEN ALSO DOWN THAT EAST SIDE. UM OKAY, GOOD. SO THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY ENGINEERING. YEAH. CUZ THAT IS ALTERING THE CONTOUR OF THE LOT. YEAH. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE MOVING A BUNCH OF DIRT BUT WE'RE NOT CAUSING FLOODING. THAT WAS, UM, THEY GOT THAT APPROVED PRIOR TO THE FIRST GRADING PERMIT BEING RELEASED. OKAY. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER. PERFECT. MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 5.1 THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.1. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 5.1 WITH THE ALL EASEMENTS WILL BE SHOWN IN THE SCHEMATICS BEFOREHAND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAWYER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOYER. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE I WILL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. NEXT IS ITEM SIX, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT. OKAY. SO I ONLY HAVE ONE THING FOR YOU. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE WELL UM, INTO OUR BUDGET, UM, PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WITH THAT WE WILL HAVE TO PRESENT THE C I P WE BEING STAFF, UM, THAT IS PLANNED FOR JUNE 20TH RIGHT NOW IN THE BUDGET CALENDAR AS A SPECIAL CALL, WHICH I KNOW YOU GUYS LOVE SO MUCH TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE C I P IS SO ROBUST AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL C I P UM, COMING TO YOU, WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING PART OF IT ON THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN JUNE AND THEN THE SECOND PART ON THAT 20TH JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO DIGEST IT AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAVE ROADS, BUT WE HAVE WATER WASTEWATER AND PARKS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DISCUSS. IT'S REALLY THE ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS THAT SOME OF THOSE WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT MEETINGS IF WE NEED TO. I THINK WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT, WE DO ALWAYS HAVE REC UH, RECORDINGS OF THESE AFTER THE FACT, BUT IT MAY ALSO BE IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS, WANTS TO PARTICIPATE AND WE ALREADY HAVE A QUORUM, WE'LL SEE ABOUT, UM, GETTING AN ALLOWANCE TO HAVE CALLIN OR TEAM'S ABILITY FOR THAT MEETING FOR, FOR THOSE TWO, DID YOU SAY I'M, I'M SORRY, I THINK I MISSED THE VERY FIRST PART OF YOUR WORDS. DID YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A C I P, UM, REORDERING OF THE CURRENT C I P OR JUST WITH EVERY BUDGET YEAR WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT CIP P TO SEE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN LET, WHAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND. WHAT ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES AT THAT POINT? SO IT'S GONNA BE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THE C I P, UM, ON GOT IT. JUNE 6TH AND THE 20TH AND THEN WE SEND OUR PROPOSAL TO CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. AFTER THAT JUNE 20TH MEETING. OKAY. WE JUST THOUGHT IF WE DO IT ALL IN ONE NIGHT, THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY LONG EVENING. MM-HMM. . UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AT ONCE. SO WE'RE JUST, MATT AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, WE'D RATHER BREAK IT UP IN A TWO. NOW WITH, WITH PARKS BEING ON THE C I P, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO POSSIBLY NOTICE A P AND Z A JOINT P AND Z PARKS MEETING? SO WE COULD HAVE EVERYBODY THERE OR NO, POTENTIALLY LET ME DISCUSS IT INTERNALLY. OKAY. YEAH, I CAN SEE IF WE CAN GET, UM, GET THAT DONE. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT JEFF'S TIMING IS OR IF IT'S ALREADY GOING TO GO TO PARKS AND THEN COME HERE CUZ BY THE CHARTER IT HAS TO ONLY BE HEARD BY P AND Z AND THE COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY WELCOME PARK'S INPUT. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. UM, ARE WE DOING A SPECIAL THIS MONTH OR NO, ON THE 16TH? WE ARE. OKAY. PRETTY MUCH THROUGH JUST WITH THE EDC PROJECTS AND HOW BUSY WE GOT. YEAH. WE HAVE TO DO IT JUST TO GET EVERYTHING OFF. OKAY. UP AND RUNNING. UM, ONE MORE THING POSSIBLY FOR JUNE, UM, ARE WE STILL LOOKING TO DO THE ELECTION OF CHAIR, VICE CHAIR? YES. IN JUNE. OKAY. I WOULD RATHER DO IT AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY FROM WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT UM, IF THE JUNE 20TH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST HAVE THAT B C I P NO PROJECTS MM-HMM. . UM, SO I WOULD THINK THE EARLIEST IN JUNE, THAT SIXTH MEETING. OKAY. WAIT, I THINK I'M UP THIS YEAR. I SEE. SO YOU SAID THE CIP P'S GONNA COME OUT ON JUNE 20TH, SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A DRAFT OF THE CIP P THAT'S WHAT I GONNA PART OF IT ON THE JUNE 6TH MEETING SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND YOU'LL HAVE THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION AND THE REST OF IT'LL BE ON JUNE 20TH JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FIVE, SIX HOUR MEETING. I LIKE THAT. I MISSED THAT. I THINK, I THINK I HEARD THAT BUT I MISSED IT. YEAH, IT WASN'T GOING TO ACTUALLY BE, I THINK IN DRAFT FORM UNTIL JUNE 20TH [00:20:01] OR AT LEAST WHEN WE GET THAT PACKET OUT. THIS JUST MEANS THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO TALK BETWEEN TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS. WE KNOW THAT THAT JUNE 20TH IS LIKELY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. AND, AND IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'RE, LET'S SAY THERE'S 10 SECTIONS IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, EIGHT OF 'EM ARE NAILED DOWN PRETTY CLOSE AND TWO OF THEM ARE QUESTIONABLE. IF YOU JUST KINDA LET US KNOW THAT, THEN WE CAN FOCUS ON THOSE ONES YOU HAVE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UH, THERE BEING NOTHING FURTHER ON THE AGENDA, LET, I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:21 PM OOH, WOW. NOT A RECORD, BUT CLOSE. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.