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[Special Planning and Zoning on May 16, 2023.]
WE WILL CALL THIS SPECIAL CALLED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TUESDAY, MAY 16TH TO ORDER.AND LET'S SEE, I HAVE COMMISSIONER MORRIS HERE.
I HAVE COMMISSIONER SCHWART FIGURE HERE, MYSELF, COMMISSIONER HUDSON AND COMMISSIONER BOYER HERE.
UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE JUAN PENI.
ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION OF LA HAR FOOD TRUCK TO BE LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 2 0 9 FARLEY STREET.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UM, MOBILE FOOD VENDOR OR FOOD TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED WITHIN HU'S, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT BY MINOR MODIFICATION, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED OT FIVE H, WHICH IS OLD TOWN HISTORIC AND IS A PART OF THE OLD TOWN CORE, WHICH IS A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALLOWS FOR RETAIL, LIVE, WORK AND RESIDENTIAL.
ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
THIS REQUEST IS TO SEEK GAIN OR IS TO GAIN APPROVAL TO OPERATE LA PRIA AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND FARLEY STREET.
AND THIS IS A LATIN AMERICAN CUISINE FOOD TRUCK.
THE CURRENT SITE IS ALSO LEASED OUT TO OTHER FOOD TRUCKS WITH ALL ACTIVE MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
PROPERTY OWNER HAS PROVIDED THEIR CONSENT, UM, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT NO CUSTOMER DRIVE UP SERVICE OR CUSTOMER PARKING SHALL OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS INCLUDED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
AND THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE LIMITS HOURS OF OPERATION FOR ANY MOBILE FOOD TRUCK BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM HERE WE HAVE, UM, A, THE ZONING MAP AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE FARLEY AND MAIN STREET INTERSECT, AND IT'S THAT SOUTHEAST UH, CORNER THERE.
HERE IS A LAYOUT OF THE SITE, AND THE FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE ON THAT LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.
AND WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE FOOD TRUCK.
AS THE REQUEST MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS ADOPTED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR MODIFICATION.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, REGARDING, WELL, TWO QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A, THIS IS REPLACING A TRUCK THAT IS NO LONGER THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THIS WOULD BE ADDING ANOTHER ONE.
AND THE OTHER FOUR TRUCKS HAVE THE SAME OPERATING HOURS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE EXISTING BATHROOM FACILITIES THERE? ARE THERE ANY, OR IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT FOR THAT IN THE FOOD TRUCK AREA? NOT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON, JUST FOR THE SITE ITSELF.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ONSITE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S ALL HANDLED THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND AGAIN, I WASN'T MENTIONING THAT ANY FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE SANITATION, LIKE HAND WASHING STATIONS ARE NORMAL, BUT USUALLY THEY BACK OFF.
A LOT OF TIMES FOOD TRUCKS ARE MORE OF A COME AND GO THAN A OKAY.
ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.1.
MOTION TO ACCEPT 4 41 AS, UH, PROVIDED BY STAFF SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOYER.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING ORDINANCE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS SCHMIDT FIELDS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 46.778
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ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED ON CR ONE 19.THE PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF JUST A LITTLE OVER 46 ACRES OF LAND, UM, ALONG COUNTY ROAD ONE 19, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED AMENITIES AND COMMERCIAL USE THAT WILL SUPPORT AND SERVE THE NEARBY RESIDENTS.
UH, TO THE NORTH, IT'S THE CTC AT EMORY CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE THE HUDDLE SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE, UM, EJ WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND TO THE WEST, IT'S EDGE, SCHMID BOULEVARD AND WILCO RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD.
HERE WE HAVE, UM, ON THE LEFT THE LOCATION, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT IS OUR ZONING MAP, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, EITHER BEING, UM, IN P D OR SF ONE, UH, MAXIMUM DENSITY WOULD BE 20 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH 80% OF ALL TOTAL UNITS SHOULD BE, UH, ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. THE PROJECT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH ALLOWS A COMBINATION OF DENSE RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES IN A COMPACT DESIGN TO CREATE A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO GOODS, SERVICES AND CIVIC ACTIVITIES, REDUCING RESIDENCES DEPENDENCE ON THE CAR.
THE PROPOSED REZONING IS TO MODIFY CERTAIN CODES TO ALLOW FOR A MODERATELY DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH PRIVATE AMENITIES AND ACCOUNTS FOR SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE DUE TO A LARGE 100 FOOT ELECTRIC EASEMENT.
THE P U D WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING CHOICES FOR RESIDENTS THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE DENSITY OR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES AS SUPPORTED BY THE HUTTO 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE TRAIL CONNECTING TO THE GREATER TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE P U D WILL ALSO INCLUDE INCREASED BUFFERS AND SETBACKS FROM THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY USES.
SPECIFICALLY THIS P U D PROVIDES A 80 FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, AND NOTHING GREATER THAN TWO STORIES WITHIN 125 FEET OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY LINES.
THE DEVELOPER WILL ALSO EXTEND BROOKSIDE STREET TO EDGE SCHMIDT VARD LINING UP WITH HORN BILL DRIVE.
HERE WE HAVE A LAYOUT SHOWING WHERE THE, UH, PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE AND WHERE THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL WOULD BE.
HERE IS A LAYOUT WITH THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PHASE ONE, TWO, AND THREE HERE IS A PROPOSED ELEVATION OF WHAT THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THE P U D REQUEST MEETS ALL THE P D CRITERIA AS OUTLINED BELOW.
THE P U D IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT OR RECOMMENDED LAND USES, IT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT PROPERTY NEAR THE SITE AND IT ACHIEVES THE BENEFITS OF IMPROVED DESIGN.
THE P U D WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT LAND WITH SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, RECREATIONAL, OR AESTHETIC VALUE.
THE P U D WILL GIVE BENEFITS THROUGH PROVIDING OPEN SPACE ARCS CONSERVATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, AESTHETIC FEATURES AND HARMONIOUS DESIGN, AND OUR ENERGY EFFICIENT SITE DESIGN.
THE BENEFITS OF PRESERVING LAND FOR OPEN SPACE PARKS OR OTHER PUBLIC AMENITIES OUTWEIGH THE POTENTIAL IMPACT FOR MORE INTENSE OR DENSE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
THE P U D CONTROLS EXTERNAL EFFECTS ARE NEARBY.
LAND USE USES SUCH AS MOVEMENT AND CONGESTION OF TRAFFIC, LIGHTING, TRASH ACCUMULATION AND LITTER NOISE, AIR AND WATER POLLUTION, AND OTHER FACTORS AFFECTING PUBLIC HEALTH, WELFARE, SAFETY, AND CONVENIENCE.
THE P U D WILL SERVE AS ADEQUATE FACILITIES INCLUDING STREET FIRE, PROTECTION, WATER, AND SANITATION.
THE P U D DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT GREATER BURDEN ON THE CITY'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND SERVICES, THEN DEVELOPMENT ADDED DENSITY PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING OR SUGGESTED UNDER COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS, OR THE ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE TO MITIGATE IMPACTS PD ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, LANDSCAPING, HARDSCAPING AND SIGN SIGNAGE PARAMETERS MUST GIVE EVIDENCE OF COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL CONSISTENCY OF DESIGN AND CONFORMANCE TO CITY DESIGN STANDARDS.
76 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 600 FOOT, UM, WERE NOTIFIED OF THE REQUEST.
AND TO DATE, UH, STAFF RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SCHMIDT FIELDS
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PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CONDITION.THE 5% MINOR MODIFICATION IS UPDATED TO REFLECT A 10% COMMUN CUMULATIVE REVISION.
AND WITH THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
THIS DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:11 PM AND IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
HEY, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS JUAN PENI, AND I LIVE CURRENTLY IN ONE OF THE APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTH OF AUTO.
UH, IT SAYS ON THE MENTION ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SLIDES THAT IT'S A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT IT'S, IN MY OPINION, AT LEAST ON THE LAYOUT ASPECT OF, OF THINGS, IT JUST MAINLY PARKING LOTS.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT SPECIFICALLY CREATE AN, UM, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY A, A PUSH FOR WALKABLE ENVIRONMENTS.
UH, I JUST SEE JUST PLAIN OLD BUILDINGS WITH PARKING LOTS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
I DO THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S MY PERSONAL BELIEF THAT AT LEAST, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MAYBE IF THEY'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE WELCOME ENVIRONMENT, MAYBE HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL IN THE MAIN FLOOR ON THE FIRST FLOOR, MAYBE THAT COULD IMPROVE OR CREATE A WELCOME ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE NOW GONNA DRIVE TO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHICH CREATES TRAFFIC, AND INSTEAD JUST STAYING IN A SPECIFIC AREA.
THAT'S BA BASICALLY MY OPINION.
BEFORE YOU LEAVE MY ASK STAFF, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, YOU SAID YOU, YOU SEE PARKING.
WAS THERE A SPECIFIC, WELL, I IMAGE THAT YOU TALKED, THAT WE SAW UP HERE THAT YOU WERE TALKING? WELL, FROM THE PICTURE AND THE LAYOUT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER, BRING UP THAT PICTURE.
JUST ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
SO, UH, UH, SO WHAT I SEE IS MAINLY PARKING LOT.
IS I DON'T SEE ANY PARTICULAR TRAIL IN BETWEEN BUILDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COULD, UH, ACTUALLY PUSH FOR PEOPLE TO WALK.
SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WANNA WALK WITH YOUR DOG, YOU'RE MAINLY GONNA, AT LEAST FROM THE LAYOUT, YOU'RE MAINLY GONNA WALK IN BETWEEN PARKING SPACES.
WHICH, THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY CURRENT, MY IN MY COMPLEX.
SO I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH DOGS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE NOT AWARE WITH THE DOGS, OBVIOUSLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE DOGS.
I'M, I'M A BIG DOG PERSON, SO I'M CARE ABOUT THE DOGS.
AND, UH, WELL, IT JUST, TO ME, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK KIND OF, OF A WELCOME ENVIRONMENT APART FROM THE LAKE.
IT LOOKS KIND OF NICE FROM THE LAKE.
UH, MY OTHER OPINION WOULD BE THAT IT, UH, ON THE ARCHITECTURE WISE, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER BUILDING IN THE AREA.
UH, I EVEN DROVE A BUNCH OF STATES AND JUST LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER APARTMENT BUILDING.
UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AUTO COMMUNITY THAT HAS HISTORY WITH THE HIPPO AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MAYBE IT COULD, SOMETHING THAT COULD ATTACH TO THE HISTORY HERE IN THE TOWN COULD ALSO IMPROVE THE AESTHETICS ASPECT OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT DIAGRAM HE WAS REFERRING TO.
WELL, BACK TO THAT SAME PICTURE.
CAN I, SO THERE'S A 10 FOOT TRAIL GOING ALONG THIS RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
I GOT A OH, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, SORRY.
SO IF THERE'S, UH, NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS ITEM, NO ONE ELSE.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN 14.
AND NOW I'LL OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FROM THE DIAS.
ON THIS SAME PICTURE ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE, THERE IS A 10 FOOT TRAIL FROM THE VERY TOP THAT GOES ALL ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT.
NOW, I, MAYBE I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT IT SHOWS THAT TRAIL DOES END AT NEW ROADWAY, SO IT DOESN'T EXTEND SOUTH PAST NEW ROADWAY.
BUT IT'S ALSO, THEY CAN DO THE FEE IN LIEU OF, SO IT MAY NOT EVEN BE CONSTRUCTED, BUT IF THIS IS, MIGHT, CONCEPTUALLY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO INCREASE WALKABILITY.
THERE IS ONLY THE TRAIL AS WALKABILITY FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
THERE'S ONLY THE TRAIL PROVIDING ACCESSIBILITY
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DOWN TO NEW ROADWAY.AND THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BE AT THE SOUTH END, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, HAS NO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO IT.
SO I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT IT, THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO SEEMED TO HAVE A VERY HARD BOUNDARY BETWEEN THEM.
AND THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE A DETRACTOR TO WALKABILITY CHAIRMAN HUDSON, IF WE COULD, UM, PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT A MOMENT FOR HER PRESENTATION.
AND THEN WE CAN, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE WALKABILITY QUESTIONS IN HERE, THEN OH, WE CAN GET INTO THAT.
I'M NOT SEEING GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS AMANDA BROWN WITH HD BROWN CONSULTING.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
I'M HERE, UM, REPRESENTING A, UM, THOMPSON REALTY, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT PROPOSING A REZONING WITH AN ASSOCIATED ANNEXATION TO ACCOMMODATE A, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S ON CR ONE 19 JUST NORTH OF, UH, LIMBER LOOP, UM, AND THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EDGE SCHMIDT.
SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP.
IT'S CURRENTLY UN ZONED CURRENTLY IN THE EJ.
UM, WE ARE CONCURRENTLY PROCESSING WITH THE ZONING APPLICATION AND ANNEXATION APPLICATION TO BE HERDED COUNCIL.
UM, MANY BENEFITS COME WITH ANNEX ANNEXING INTO THE CITY.
UM, ANY SALES TAX OR PROPERTY PROPERTY TAX THAT GENERATES FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, WILL THEN GO INTO THE COFFERS OF THE CITY OF HUK.
ANOTHER BENEFIT OF A OF ANNEXATION IS, UM, WE ARE SUBJECT TO ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE IN THE CITY OF HU.
SO THAT'S ALL THE WAY FROM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO LIGHTING STANDARDS, NOISE ORDINANCES, UM, AND, AND, AND ZONING, WHICH IS, UH, THIS POD THAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT, UM, AS WELL.
UM, SO THIS IS A MAP OF THE FUTURE LAND, THE NEW FUTURE LAND USE THAT WAS, UH, RECENTLY PASSED WITH THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS, UH, CENTER IS A COMMUNITY ACTI ACTIVITY CENTER THAT CALLS FOR A COMBINATION OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND, UH, AND COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
SO, UM, IN THIS PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR POD, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TWO BASE OWNING DISTRICTS.
ONE IS MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEN THE NEXT BEING B2, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ROAD THAT WE'RE GONNA BE EXTENDING AS WELL, THE BROOKSIDE OVER THERE, UM, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE, UM, MAP.
UM, I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE B2 PORTION.
SO, UM, AT THE HARD CORNER OF EDGE, SCHMIDT AND LIMMER LOOP IS A 20 ACRE TRACT OF LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY, UM, UM, UN UNDEVELOPED, UN ZONED, ALSO NOT ANNEXED, WHICH WILL BE PRIME COMMERCIAL ACREAGE HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THIS ADDITIONAL FIVE ACRES WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT ADDITION TO THAT TRACK, CREATING ENOUGH ACREAGE, 25 ACRES TO REALLY BE ONE DAY A NICE SUBSTANTIAL COMMERCIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO THIS IS THE LAND USE MAP THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUT, THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL.
UM, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS WILL GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF, OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING, UM, HOPING TO BUILD.
SO THIS SITE IS BROKEN OUT INTO THREE PHASES.
SO PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE, KIND OF GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
UM, THE INTENT BEHIND THAT WAS TO, UM, AND IT, IT'S IN THE PUT THAT THESE PHASES ARE KIND OF SPACED OUT, AND THAT'S TO ALLOW INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS TO KIND OF COME ONLINE AS THIS DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE AS WELL.
AND SO PHASE TWO CAN'T GET BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL NINE MONTHS AFTER PHASE ONE HAS THEIRS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PHASES, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW ROADWAY THAT'S, UH, THE EXTENSION OF, UH, BROOKSIDE.
THAT'LL GO OUT TO EDGE SCHMIDT THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT WILL BE A TREE LINE STREET, SO WE'LL HAVE STREET TREES PLANTED, UM, PLANTED ALONG, ALONG BROOKSIDE.
UM, EACH PHASE WILL HAVE, UM, THEIR OWN SEPARATE AMENITIES.
SO THEIR OWN POOL, THEY'LL HAVE A, A NETWORK OF POCKET PARKS.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE CUZ IT'S A LITTLE ZOOMED UP, BUT THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ALL THROUGHOUT THIS, UM, CONCEPT PLAN.
SO ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND ALL THE RESIDENCES WILL BE, UM, THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE THINGS, UM, BY SIDEWALKS.
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THIS IS AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING, UM, THAT IS, UH, IS AN EXHIBIT IN THE PUT, THIS IS INTENDED TO, UM, REPRESENT THE ARCHITECTURAL INTENT OF PHASE ONE.UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CLASS, A APARTMENT, APARTMENT BUILDING.
UM, AND WE HAVE PUT PROVISIONS IN THE PUT, UM, TO ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF, UH, OF THIS, UH, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, ALL OF THOSE BALCONIES AND, UM, OPEN SPACE AND OUTDOOR SPACE FOR EACH UNIT THAT'S, THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, THERE ARE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AND STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE PHASES WERE COHESIVE BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT, UM, REQUIRE, UH, THAT THEY'RE SIMILAR.
SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA HAVE THE SAME COLOR PALETTE, BUT EACH PHASE NEEDS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PRIMARY COLOR.
UM, THEY ALL HAVE TO HAVE SIMILAR, UM, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THE POD THAT ALSO KIND OF EMPHASIZE THE CLASS A NATURE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE GOT ELECTRIC CAR PARKING, THERE'S GONNA BE GARAGE OPTIONS.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE PROPOSED AMENITIES IS A POTENTIAL SORT OF GRAB AND GO FOOD AMENITY, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.
UH, SO WE, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, UH, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS AND HAVE HAD, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
UM, AND, UM, SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT NEXT ARE SORT OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO THE FIRST THING I WANNA MENTION IS THE ENHANCED INCREASED COMPATIBILITY FROM, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY TO THE EAST, UM, TO THE ADJACENT SITES.
SO WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUILDING SETBACK TO 85 FEET.
SO NO BUILDING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF ONE STORY GARAGES WOULD BE WITHIN THAT 85 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, THAT'S AN INCREASE FROM, I BELIEVE, 20 FEET.
SO A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE SETBACK.
UM, THE SECOND THING I WANNA NOTE IS WITHIN 125 FEET.
SO REALLY ANY BUILDING BETWEEN THE 85 FEET AND THE 125 FEET WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES.
AND SO IT REALLY CREATES, UM, A, AN, AND THE TWO STORIES IS SIMILAR TO THE ALLOWED HEIGHT OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT REALLY CREATES A TIERED APPROACH, UM, REALLY KIND OF INCREASING THAT COMPATIBILITY FROM FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WITH ALL OF THE PHASES, WE DID HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM, OR OUR ARCHITECT DO THESE SORT OF SITE, UM, SITE LINES TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF VISUALS WOULD BE THERE, WHAT THE PROPOSED SETBACKS.
SO ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE WILL ALSO BE STREET TREES PLANTED 50 FEET ON CENTER.
UM, AND SO WITH THE TREES, THE INCREASED SETBACK AND THE DECREASE IN HEIGHT, UM, IT'S DESIGNED IN A WAY TO WHERE THE SITE LINES WILL NOT BE IMPEDED AT ALL REALLY EITHER WAY.
SO FROM THE EXISTING HOMES, UM, NOBODY'S GONNA BE LOOKING INTO ANYBODY'S BACKYARD OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THIS IS, UH, JUST SORT OF AMASSING THE YELLOW BUILDINGS ARE, ARE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES.
THEY ARE EN COACHING INTO THE 125 FOOT.
UM, AND, AND THE REST ARE FOUR STORIES.
UM, SO THE NEXT, UH, CONVERS TALK TOPIC I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE TRAIL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
SO, UM, IN THE PUT, AND THIS WILL BE REQUIRED, WE'VE COMMITTED TO IT AND WRITTEN IT, WRITTEN IT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S GONNA BE A 10 FOOT TRAIL THAT EXTENDS FROM BROOKSIDE ALL THE WAY UP TO A FUTURE PARK, UM, JUST TO THE NORTH.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE SITE, THERE'LL BE SHADED SIDEWALKS ALONG BROOKSIDE WITH STREET TREES.
AND THIS TRAIL CONNECTING, AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, 10 FOOT TRAIL CONNECTING UP INTO THE PARK, UM, I THINK ARE ALL REALLY GREAT COMPONENTS OF CONNECTIVITY, UM, OF THIS SITE.
SO THAT TRAIL WILL BE ENCUMBERED WITH A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT.
IT'S REALLY INTENDED FOR IT TO BE FOR USE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND ALSO THE NORTH SIDE OF HUTTO TOWN SQUARE AS WELL, WHO WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT TRAIL AND HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO ACCESS IT, UM, VIA THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OF BROOKSIDE AND BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THE NORTH.
UM, SO I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE REFRESHER COURSE REAL QUICK.
SO I WAS BEFORE YOU, UH, I GUESS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH THE CTC AT EMORY CROSSING WHERE WE DISCUSSED, UM, THE, THE, UM, 20 ACRE PARK THAT WAS PROPOSED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE WENT, WENT THROUGH COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CTC AT EMORY CROSSING WILL BE A 20 ACRE PARK.
AND THIS IS JUST TO SHOW CONTEXT OF THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THE ONE IN RADISH SCHMIDTZ FIELD, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE BROOKSIDE KIND OF STUBS OUT AND HOW A TRAIL GOING NORTH, UM, WITH A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT WOULD CONNECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
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AS WELL.SO THIS IS, UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES FROM THAT PREVIOUS PROJECT.
SO THIS IS THE 20 ACRE PARK, UH, THAT TRAIL'S ACTUALLY 10 FEET WIDE NOW, SO THAT'LL BE A 10 ACRE TRAIL.
AND THE BROOKSIDE, UM, THE, THE TRAIL COMING OFF OF BROOKSIDE WOULD STUB OUT JUST TO THE NORTH TO ACCESS THIS 20 ACRE PARK.
SO WHEN WE WERE PREVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH THAT PROJECT, THERE WAS ABOUT, UM, 2,441 HOMES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PARK.
AND NOW WITH THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT IN PLACE WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN PLACE, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE CLOSER TO 300, 3,400 HOMES.
IT'S NOT EVEN PEOPLE, SO MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PARK, UM, JUST BY WALKING TO IT.
UM, SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HEARD WAS, UH, ABOUT, UM, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO CONNECTING TO THE, THE, THE PARK AND THE TRAIL.
AND SO, UM, WE'VE COMMITTED IN THE PUT AS WELL, AND THIS IS ALWAYS OUR INTENT ANYWAY, IS TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN GATES FROM PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL PHASES AND, AND WE, WE DID THINK ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PARK, PHASE THREE, REALLY BEING ABLE TO ACCESS IT THROUGH THE BROOKSIDE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN THE PUBLIC ACCESS TRAIL, UM, AND THEN PHASE ONE AND TWO, BEING ABLE TO USE THAT PEDESTRIAN GATE TO ACCESS THE TRAIL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A BIG CIRCUITOUS ROUTE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO.
WHERE, WHERE'S THE, THE GATE THEY'RE CALLED OUT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF NORTHEAST, LIKE ON CLOSE TO THE EAST SIDE.
AND THOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONCEPTUAL, BUT IN THE PU IT IS REQUIRE THERE'S MORE THAN WHAT? DO WHAT? THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.
SO IN THE PU THERE, IT'S REQUIRED THAT EACH PHASE WILL HAVE, HAVE A GATE, THAT LOCATION MAY CHANGE, BUT, UM, YEAH, THE GATES, THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE FAMILY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE, UM, FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
CHRIS THOMPSON WITH THOMPSON REALTY IS HERE AS WELL.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HIM, I I DO HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, CAN WE GO BACK ONE SLIDE? SO, UH, THE GATES, UH, WHEN I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THIS, UH, PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, PHASE ONE WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM PHASE TWO.
IS THAT NOT THE CASE? THERE WILL BE PEDESTRIAN INTERCUT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND TWO.
THE, THE TWO PHASES WILL BE FENCED SEPARATELY.
THE PEDESTRIANS GATES ARE PRIMARILY TO THE TRAIL.
SO WALKING, LET'S DO A LITTLE EXERCISE HERE.
WALKING FROM PHASE ONE TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, COMMERCIAL THAT IS GOING TO BE TO THE SOUTH IS ONLY ACCOMPLISHED ON THE, ON THE TRAIL, IS THAT CORRECT? THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL PORTION AND THEN THE FUTURE 25 ACRE COMMERCIAL PORTION.
THAT WOULD BE FROM THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE WILL BE INSTALLING ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT.
SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD THEN LEAVE YOUR APARTMENT COMMUNITY AND WALK ON A PUBLIC SIDEWALK, CORRECT? EXACTLY.
UM, THE STREET ROADWAY JUST EAST OF PHASE TWO, IS THAT INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE? FOR PHASE TWO OUTSIDE.
AND THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET THAT IS STILL A PRIVATE STREET, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE, THE ACCESS EASEMENT WILL PRIMARILY JUST ENCUMBER THE TRAIL.
UM, BUT IT'LL, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE EXTENT OF IT.
SO THAT STREET WILL NOT BE A PUBLIC STREET, IT WON'T BE GATED, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
I HAVE A BIT OF A CONCERN WITH A STREET THERE, BUT VERY EASY.
HI, I'M CHRIS THOMPSON WITH THOMPSON REALTY.
UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE GATE AT THE BOTTOM OF PHASE
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ONE ON THAT, UH, SOUTHEAST SIDE.THERE WILL BE A VEHICLE GATE THERE FOR VERNACULAR.
THERE WILL BE EACH PROPERTY, EACH PHASE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, WALK GATE.
PHASE ONE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN ONE GOING OUT TO THE, UH, EAST SIDE.
PAGE TWO WILL HAVE ONE, AND THEN PHASE THREE AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, WILL GO UP AND YOU JUST HAD NEW ROADWAY SIDEWALK TO GET TO THE TRAIL.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A, THERE'S A GATE RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S GATE, GATE, THE PINK LINES ARE THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ARE THE FENCE.
YEAH, I, I DIDN'T SEE THAT HERE.
I, I CAN'T, MY OLD EYES CAN'T SEE THIS.
THIS IS MORE OF A CONCEPT, BUT IN THE PU WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN GATE FROM EACH FACE.
MY, MY DOCUMENT DIDN'T HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN GATE ON IT.
YEAH, THIS IS A, A NEW EXHIBIT THAT I PUT TOGETHER THAT WAS A PUD PROVISION WE PUT IN RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
UM, SO THAT NEW ENTRY TO SHOW NEW ENTRY.
AND THEN, LET'S SEE ON THE EXHIBIT C, THE, UH, THE COLORED VERSION OF THIS ONE WITHOUT THE PINK, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY SLIDES BACK THAT IS.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, I'LL USE NEW ROADWAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON, UH, PROBABLY EASIER IF I JUST DO THIS.
SO WHERE THE SIDEWALK COMES OUT TO THE WALK LIKE THAT, ARE WE INTENDING TO PUT ANY SORT OF CROSSWALK OR ANYTHING TO INCREASE WALKABILITY AND ANY SORT OF TRAFFIC CALMING, UH, LET'S SAY A SPEED TABLE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? Y WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING THIS ROAD TO UDC STANDARDS.
IT'S GONNA BE GIVEN TO THE CITY, UM, AS A FULL PUBLIC ROAD, UM, AT, AT, AT THAT TIME.
IF THE CITY SEES THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF UP TO THE CITY AND THE CITY ENGINEER TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE IF THERE'S A NEED.
UM, WE EXPECT THAT IF ANY OF THOSE ARE NEEDED, OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES WILL BE IN THE COFFERS OF THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, AT THIS PHASE, AT THE PUD, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THOSE SORT OF ENGINEERING CALLS.
UM, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO HAVING THOSE, UM, HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY AS WE MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, I THINK IT'S ONE MORE BACK MAYBE.
THAT'S THE ONE SO HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, LOOKING DOWN HERE, THE MIX OF HOUSING AND WALKABILITY MM-HMM.
IF WE DON'T DESIGN FOR THAT, THEN IT DOESN'T.
SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE WALKABILITY TO THE SOUTH HERE, I HONESTLY THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING SOME OF THOSE FEATURES INTO THE PLANS, CODIFYING IT, AND GOING FORWARD WITH IT AS PART OF THE PUD, NOT NECESSARILY AS PART OF THE UDC.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT.
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH IF YOU GO TO YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT'S SITE LINE STUDY IS A BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING ONE TREE EVERY 50 FEET.
UH, LOOKS LIKE THOSE LOTS ON THE SIDE ARE ABOUT 65 FEET.
SO YOU HAVE BASICALLY ONE TREE PER LOT COVERING THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PER PERSON'S PROPERTY.
SO THAT SIGHT LINE STUDY SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MISLEADING CUZ YOU ARE GONNA HAVE SIGHT LINES INTO THE BACKYARD.
SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A BUFFER THAT'S MISSING ON THIS IN MY OPINION.
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YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THIS YEAH, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST MENTION THERE IS, THERE IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING FENCE AND SO THE RESIDENCE RIGHT, RIGHT.BUT MOST DEVELOPMENTS WE SEE THAT YOU GUYS WILL PUT IN YOUR OWN MASONRY SCREEN FENCE THAT IS SIX TO EIGHT FEET TALL MM-HMM.
CONSIDERING THAT, UH, CAN YOU GO TO YOUR SITE PLAN, YOU HAVE THE ROAD ON THE ONE SIDE AND THEN I LEAVE ON THE PHASE THREE, YOU'VE GOT PARKING THAT'S GONNA BE BACKING UP DIRECTLY TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE HEADLIGHTS AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT COMING IN, SHINING INTO THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.
I I LIKE THAT YOU'VE INCREASED IT.
UM, I THINK THAT THE, WHAT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING IS THE TWO STORY THOUGH.
YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 55 FEET.
SO I COULD HAVE A FLOOR FLOOR PLATE OF 18 FEET AND HAVE VAULTED CEILINGS IN THERE AND I'VE INCREASED MY SIGHT LINE ISSUES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD THAT WE ACTUALLY INDICATE THAT THE TWO STORY, WHAT IS THAT MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THOSE TWO STORY VOLUMES AND THE FLORIDA FLOOR PLATE SO THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING ANY ISSUES OF OUR SIGHT LINES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEN I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKLAND AND THEN THE, THE TRAIL BECAUSE AS IT READS HERE WE'VE GOT THE P U D PARKLAND, YOU'RE GONNA PUT MONEY INTO IT, BUT THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT, BASICALLY, WELL WE MAY DO THAT, BUT WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND BASICALLY CREDIT IT TOWARDS THE PUTTING IN THIS TRAIL.
SO TO ME IT'S, WE'RE NOT INVESTING IN HU TO AND PROVIDING THE PARKLAND.
WE'LL DO IT, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA GET A BENEFIT BACK OF, WELL NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS TRAIL CUZ WE'RE GONNA USE THAT MONEY.
UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE STRICKEN OUT, THAT IF YOU'RE PROVIDING A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO TIE THOSE IN, YOU SHOULDN'T BE PULLING OUT AND SAYING, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE TO THE REST OF THE CITY IN PROVIDING THAT MONEY INTO THE PARKLAND FUNDS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA ECHO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
UH, IT APPEARS TO BE THREE SILOED SITES THAT HAVE FENCING, WHETHER IT'S CHAIN LINK OR ROD IRON AROUND EACH ONE, A MAN GATE BETWEEN THEM.
YOU'VE BASICALLY SILOED THOSE.
WALKABLE, UH, TO ME MEANS THAT NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS ARE ABLE TO WALK IN AND OUT AND GET TO THE AMENITIES OF THE BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL SIDE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, HAVING THEM TO GO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, I'M WANNA SAY THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO WALK THROUGH YOUR, YOUR RESIDENCE AND TENANTS HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE EDGEMONT AND THEN GO DOWN THAT, UH, THE PARK OR THE SIDEWALK THERE TO THE, TO THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AREA SEEMS TO DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF WALKABLE.
YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, NO PATH THAT INTERCONNECTS 'EM, YOU, YOU'VE SILOED EACH OF THESE SITES, YOU DIVIDED THEM.
THEY'RE NOT WALKABLE, THEY'RE WALKABLE AT EACH BUILDING.
UM, SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN MY OPINION GOING FORWARD.
UM, I DID WANNA MENTION JUST A FEW THINGS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE BUFFERING, THE STREET TREES ALSO INCLUDE HEDGES AND SO WITH THE FENCE, WITH THE STREET TREES, WITH THE ASSOCIATED HEDGES, I MEAN THE WHOLE INTENT OF THAT IS TO REALLY PROTECT FROM ANY SORT OF, UM, HEADLIGHTS OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT THE PREFERENCE WAS FOR THE BUILDINGS TO BE SETBACK.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CARS ARE THERE, BUT THERE IS, THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T HEADLIGHTS GLARING INTO ANYBODY'S BACKYARD.
AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT OUR INTENT.
AND I KNOW WITH THE SCALE OF THIS MAP, IT LOOKS CLOSE, BUT THERE IS A 20 FOOT BUFFER THERE BUFFER.
UM, A PLANTING BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND SO IT'LL BE A 20 FOOT BUFF PLANTING BUFFER, THEN THE PARKING WILL START AND THAT BUFFER IS WHAT INCLUDES THE HEDGES AND THE TREES AND THE FENCE AND ALL OF THIS.
I MEAN, LOOKING AT THIS, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ONE LARGE TREE PER 60 FEET AND A HEDGE AT THREE FEET OF HEIGHT AT MATURITY FOR 50% OF THE RIGHT OF WAY SCREENING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO TO ME, YOUR HEADLIGHTS OF YOUR CAR ARE RIGHT AT OR ABOVE THREE FEET.
I MEAN, TO ME, WE'RE NOT REALLY SCREENING EVEN WITH THAT HEDGE AT FULL MATURITY, WHICH IS HOW MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND WHILE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, I CAN SEE THAT THIS GOES UP AND PHASE THREE COMES IN AND THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS ANGRY NEIGHBORS SAYING, YOU GUYS DIDN'T TELL US WE WERE GONNA HAVE HEADLIGHTS SHINING IN THE BACK, THAT WE ARE GONNA BE SCREENED AND THIS ISN'T PROVIDING THAT SCREENING.
WELL THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT OUR INTENT.
WE PULLED THE THREE FEET FROM THE UDC, WHICH I THINK IS GEARED SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THAT.
IF THERE'S A DESIRE FOR FOUR FEET, I MEAN, IS THAT, UM, I MEAN WE, WE CERTAINLY, OUR INTENT WAS TO SCREEN THE HEADLIGHTS.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE BETTER, WE'RE HA WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY AND OPEN TO, TO CONSIDER THAT FOR SURE.
IF ONE, ONE PAUSE WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S THE FENCE AND THE SHRUBS AND THE TREES, YOU'RE SAYING THE EXISTING PRIVACY.
SO LIGHTS ARE, ARE GONNA GO RIGHT
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THROUGH THAT.SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A FENCE THERE MM-HMM.
I THINK, I THINK THE COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I BELIEVE IT'S A PRIVACY FENCE WOULD, WOULD WOOD ON WOOD, BUT YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M PICKETS.
SO THERE'S A HALF INCH GAP OKAY.
SO HEADLIGHTS WILL GO THROUGH THAT.
SO IT'LL BE BARS OF BRIGHT LIGHTS SHINING IN MY PATIO.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, I THINK WITH A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS, MAYBE A FOUR FOOT HEDGE, UM, WHICH I CERTAINLY THINK WOULD BE, I MEAN I'M FIVE FEET WOULD, WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, UM, AT MATURITY THOUGH, I THINK.
BUT EXACTLY IN THOSE TWO YEARS, WON'T LIGHT STILL BE SHINING THROUGH? ASSUMING THAT'S TAKES TWO YEARS TO MATURITY? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW LONG IT TAKES TO MATURITY, BUT YES, THERE WOULD BE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INSTANT.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE WAS NO INTENT TO EVER BE MISLEADING IF ANY OF THIS INFORMATION.
UM, WE INTEND TO BUILD TWO STORIES, WHATEVER THE STANDARD FLOOR PLATE IS, WHICH IS PROBABLY 10 FEET, DO YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BE 12 TO EACH FOOT, 12 FEET.
SO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR HAS, HAS A 35 FOOT LIMIT HEIGHT LIMIT.
WE'D HAPPY BE HAPPY TO IMPOSE THAT AS WELL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAX WE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO INTENT TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, REALLY HIGH 18 FOOT FLOOR PLATE AND CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TWO STORIES.
UM, UNDERSTAND IT, JUST THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE.
SO IF COMMISSION WANTS TO PUT IN A CONDITION TWO STORIES AND 35 FEET, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THAT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT FEE, UM, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS A PARKLAND FEE IN LIEU, WHICH WE'LL PAY.
AND THEN THERE'S A PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT FEE IS PROCESSED BY EITHER JUST PAYING THOSE DOLLARS TO THE CITY OR USING THAT MONEY TO DO ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENT HERE WAS NOT TO NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING, UH, IT IT WAS MORE TO JUST FOLLOW THE STANDARD PROCESS OF THE CITY AS HOW THE DEVELOPMENT FEE IS USED.
UM, SO IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTION TO NOT ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT FEE TO BE APPLIED TOWARDS THAT TRAIL, I THINK WOULD WE BE, I THINK WE WOULD BE TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.
ASHLEY, CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE OR PARKLAND THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO.
UM, THEY'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF WHERE PARKS YOU'VE MET WITH JEFF ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
UM, I DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE OTHER PROJECT, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T MET WITH HIM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN.
WE WILL OWN IT, WE WILL MAINTAIN IT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, PARKS BOARD WASN'T REQUIRED, BUT IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ENCUMBERED WITH AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL GONNA BE OWNED BY THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER.
SO DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN WITH THAT ONE OR NOT? NO, NOT REALLY.
I MEAN, TO ME, WE'RE, WE WANNA PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARK LINE, WE WANNA PROVIDE THE REVENUE SO THAT, THAT WE CAN BUILD ADDITIONAL THINGS.
I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR SHOWING WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON A DIFFERENT PROPERTY, BUT TO ME, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS PROPERTY.
THE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE SITE.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE IN, IN SPECIFIC AND THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT INTO THE PARKS, UM, TO PROVIDE A TRAIL, UM, A VERY SMALL 10 FOOT WIDE TRAIL THAT GOES ALONG ONE SIDE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PROVIDING, UH, WHAT I ANTICIPATE THE PARKLAND FEES SUPPOSED TO BE DOING PUBLIC.
I MEAN, YES, IT'S BEHIND, SURE THE NEIGHBOR'S GONNA FIND IT, BUT THIS REALLY IS GONNA END UP SERVING THESE RESIDENTS AND TENANTS VERSUS, UM, THE NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, NOW IF YOU WERE TELLING ME WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING MONUMENTS AND WE WERE SIGNAGE THAT ARE GONNA DIRECT US TO GET TO THIS AND IT IS INDICATING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT AND YOU'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A LIMESTONE BLOCK WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT LEADS YOU TO FEWER PARKS ON EITHER SIDE, THEN I'D BE MORE WILLING THAT TO CONCEDE THAT POINT SORT OF A, A WAYFINDING MARKER MONUMENT.
UM, IF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH A CONDITION, THAT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
UM, AND I THINK WITH REGARDS TO THE
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FENCING, UM, THE ACTUAL FENCING MATERIALS IS SOMETHING THAT'S USUALLY DECIDED LATER.IT'S A LITTLE EARLY TO BE SORT OF HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, AND SO UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE GOING TO INTERCONNECT AS PEDESTRIANS AND EXACTLY WHAT THE FENCING TYPE IS, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE JUST YET.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON IT'S NOT ON THERE TODAY, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT, UH, IS SEPARATING YOUR SITES OR THE PHASES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S RAW IRON CHAIN LINK, BLACK VINYL CHAIN LINK OR WHATNOT.
REALLY MY CONCERN IS LOOKING THROUGH OTHER PDDS THAT WE HAD A SEPARATION BETWEEN OUR, THIS, YOU KNOW, SPACE, THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE RESIDENTS WE'RE RELYING ON THE RESIDENTS TO MAINTAIN THEIR FENCE.
NOW WE HAVE THIS GAP BETWEEN THE TWO AND WE'RE OPENING TO THE POTENTIAL FOR, YOU KNOW, DAMAGE, VANDALISM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
HAVING, YOU KNOW, A MASONRY FENCE THAT YOU'RE SEPARATING YOUR SITE FROM THE RESIDENTS PROVIDES THAT PERMANENT BUFFER THAT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA BE IMPACTING IN THE FUTURE AND HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE TO BE RELIANT ON IT.
UM, I THINK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, WHEN THERE'S AN EXISTING FENCE, IT GETS A LITTLE WONKY BY PROPOSING ANOTHER FENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE DUPLICATIVE AND SOMETIMES THE AREA IN THE MIDDLE CAN GET A LITTLE WONKY.
BUT WE WE'RE FINE WITH IF YOU WANNA AS ANOTHER CONDITION, DO A MASONRY WALL THERE, WE WERE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING WE WERE OPPOSED TO.
SO CAN THAT BE PUT IN THAT PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY THAT'S DEDICATED FOR THE TRAIL? YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT I WOULD SAY MASONRY OR FENCE CRATE BECAUSE SOME MASONRY IS GOING TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER FOOTING SO IT MIGHT IMPEDE THAT.
I WOULD DO SOMETHING WITH A SMALLER FOOTING LIKE THE FENCE CRATE OR GIVE OPTIONS CUZ ON THE SOUTH SIDE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT IN A MASONRY, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, EVEN THOUGH FENCE CRATE IS TECHNICALLY MASONRY, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT JUST SO IT DOESN'T IMPEDE THAT 10 FOOT TRAIL.
WELL I MEAN, AND AND MY THOUGHT I GUESS WOULD BE IS EVEN IF IT'S NOT MESS, IF IT'S MASONRY COLUMNS WITH THE WOOD FENCING THAT YOU ARE MAINTAINING BETWEEN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M THINKING ON ONE 30 BETWEEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'VE GOT THAT AT CARMEL CREEK THAT THEY PUT THE MASONRY PILASTERS, THEY'VE GOT THE WOOD FENCING, IT'S MAINTAINED BY THE HOA OR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I'D BE FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE A SOLID BUFFER AND IT'S, IF IT'S IN THAT PARK AREA OR THE TRAIL AREA, IT'S MAINTAINED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IF IT BREAKS DOWN, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE FIXED AND PULL, YOU KNOW, REONE AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THEM MAINTAINING THEIR FENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I THINK WE'D BE FINE WITH THAT.
MAYBE IF THERE'S LIKE THE CONDITION THAT IT'S EITHER A MASONRY WALL OR A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND PRIVACY WOOD.
YOU KNOW, UM, TYPICALLY WE SEE, UH, FIVE FEET AS THE MINIMUM BECAUSE YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, WEED EAT OR YOU CAN GET A MOWER BACK THERE.
YOU CAN USUALLY DO A RIDE ON, UM, A MINIMUM AT FIVE FEET.
WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THREE OR FOUR FEET, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PUSH MOWER.
YOU, THERE'S TOO MUCH STUFF THAT GETS CAUGHT BACK THERE.
THE FIVE FEET USUALLY GIVES A NICE BUFFER, NO, WON'T THE FIVE FEET THEN EAT INTO THE PUBLIC EASEMENT.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A SOLUTION.
I HAVE SEEN 'EM ALSO PUT TWO INCHES AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE FENCES.
THAT'S JUST MAKE IT SO CLOSE THAT IS THAT YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT YOU BASICALLY ONLY HAVE RATS AND SNAKES HIDING IN THERE.
WOULD THAT BE FOR THE ENTIRE ALL THREE PHASES OR JUST FOR PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE THAT BACK UP TO A SINGLE CAMERA? SO YEAH, SO PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT I'D BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UH, WHAT'S PHASE ONE? YOU'VE GOT YOUR POND AREA TO ME THAT GREEN SPACE PROVIDES THE BUFFER AND YOU DON'T HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE CARS DRIVING THERE.
UM, TO BE HONEST, PHASE TWO, I'M NOT AS BASED OFF YOUR CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.
I'M NOT CONCERNED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A FIRE ACCESS DRIVER, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT PHASE THREE IS REALLY THE AREA WHERE I WOULD SAY IS WE WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE.
SO WHEREVER WELL, YEAH, HERE, HERE'S A QUESTION.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT.
WHAT ABOUT A, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT
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VERTICAL SLATS ON THE NEIGHBORS OR ON THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERTICAL SLATS.WHAT IF WE WERE TO PUT HORIZONTAL FOUR FOOT HORIZONTAL, THERE'S STILL GAPS.
SO, AND, AND PUT THAT IN THAT 15 FOOT, UM, SETBACK OR 20 FOOT SETBACK.
SO WITH THEIR INTERSECT, THEY'D HAVE A POINT LIGHT IN WHICH SET? SORRY? VERTICAL SLATS AND HORIZONTAL SLATS.
THEY WOULD HAVE POINT LIGHT, A POINT LINE POSSIBLY IF IT LINED UP WITH A HEADLIGHT.
BUT THAT WOULD PROVIDE A VERY SOLID BARRIER.
IT'S MUCH BETTER THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO MATURE AND IT'S THERE ON DAY ONE TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, BLOCKING OF THE HEADLIGHTS.
IT CAN BE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING FENCE, IN FACT CLOSER TO THE PARKING SPACES IS BETTER.
BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORK OR IS THAT THE TRAIL DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PHASE THREE, RIGHT? IT'S CORRECT.
JUST PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, CORRECT.
YEAH, THE INTENT WAS FOR PHASE THREE TO TAKE ACCESS FROM BROOKSIDE TO GET UP TO THE PARK AND UM, CHRIS AND I WERE JUST TALKING AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT A TRAIL WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE EASEMENT AREA, EDGE SCHMIDT'S PLANNING ON BEING WIDENED.
SO IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY TO, UM, INCREASE THAT SIDEWALK.
UM, BUT IF, IF, IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES, WE CAN DO ANOTHER TRAIL ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT SORT OF A 10 FOOT ME ENDURING TRAIL DOWN TO THE COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.
SO IT'S NOT JUST WALKING ON EDGE, MIT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE LIKE A PARK-LIKE KIND OF 10 FOOT SHARED USE PATH.
HOW, HOW LIKELY IS THAT FIRE LANE TO REMAIN ON PHASE TWO ON THAT PROPERTY LINE? AS FAR AS I KNOW, VERY LIKELY.
IS THAT'S GONNA BE AN ACCESS FOR THE PHASE ONE.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FROM A SAFETY FIRE MM-HMM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE ONE UH, QUESTION.
THIS IS RICK'S QUESTION ACTUALLY.
LOOKS LIKE IT GOES UNDER THE FENCE LINE.
I KNOW THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, BUT WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE IN REALITY? DO YOU THINK I'M CAN YOU OH, I SEE HE TALKING JUST SOUTH OF I THINK THAT MAY HAVE THIS IS THE ONE THAT GOES INTO THE CATTLE THAT'S EXISTING.
YEAH, THAT'S THE EXISTING THAT'LL GO AWAY.
SO IF I MAY JUST SUMMARIZE STEPS
I KNOW THE 125 FOOT HEIGHT BUFFER WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES AND 35 FEET.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT FEE WILL NO LONGER BE APPLICABLE TO THIS TRAIL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, A TRAIL ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT WILL BE PROVIDED A 10, A 10 FOOT SHARED USE PATH ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT IN THE L C R EASEMENT.
IF I MAY DO WHAT? BY PHASE THREE? BY PHASE THREE.
UM, IF I MAY, UM, IN THE PUT, IF WE CAN PUT A CONDITION IN THERE, YOU KNOW, PENDING APPROVAL FROM L C R A, IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF OUR HANDS.
BUT IF WE CAN DO IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT.
SO, AND THEN, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, IN THE FENCE, SORRY.
SOME SORT OF VISUAL BARRIER IN PHASE THREE, ESPECIALLY TWO.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HARD BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH A PUBLIC EASEMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO EAT INTO THE PUBLIC EASEMENT WITH THREE IS WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS.
SO THREE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART TO PUT A VISUAL BARRIER IN.
SO PHASE THREE WILL EITHER HAVE A MASONRY FENCE OR A COMBINATION OF WOOD AND MASONRY PILONS.
I NEED SOME SPECIFICITY FOR THAT PHASE TWO PORTION THOUGH.
FOR THE PHASE TWO FENCING, I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT PHASE TWO FENCE FENCING, EXTRA FENCING IN BETWEEN.
YOU'RE JUST GONNA SAY ADJACENT TO THAT PARKING, IT'S THE PARKING
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ADJACENT TO THE PARKING.I DON'T THINK IN PHASE TWO WE WANT TO EAT INTO THAT PUBLIC EASEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL FENCING.
SO CAN, I'M LOOKING OVER TO ASHLEY REAL QUICK.
SO IN THIS POD, CAN WE, FOR THE FENCING, UM, REQUIRED AT PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, BUT THE STIPULATION IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY P AND Z THROUGH THE, UH, PLAT SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THE FINAL PLAT AND DECIDE WHETHER THE FENCING IS NECESSARY.
I LIKE THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE, THEY GREAT, THEY GIVE US A GREAT PLAT AND WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T NEED THE FENCING THERE, BUT, BUT THE PLAT, YOU WON'T SEE THE BUILDINGS JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR.
BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO NOT HAVE IT ON PHASE TWO ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT PUBLIC TRAIL.
YOU DON'T WANNA CREATE AN ALLEY WITH THE PUBLIC TRAIL.
THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S MY THINKING ON IT.
SO ON PHASE THREE, YES, DEFINITELY PHASE TWO.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS SOME, IF THERE WAS SOME WAY WE COULD HAVE THEM TAKE THE BACK FENCE, I KNOW THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT HAVE THEM TAKE THE BACK FENCE OF THOSE HOUSES, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT, BUT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
WHAT IF WE INCREASED THE TREE PLANTINGS FOR PHASE TWO? THERE'S, THERE'S NO, I WOULD RATHER SEE MORE, THERE'S NO MORE BUSHES IF YOU WERE DOING THAT.
WELL THE, I MEAN THE HEDGES ARE THERE, SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO PARKING LONG PHASE TWO.
THAT'S GOING TO BE BLASTING INTO THOSE WINDOWS.
SO I'M NOT SO YOU'RE REAL CONCERNED WITH BLOCKING THAT VISUAL AND YOU'LL BE PROVIDING THE ONE TRAY PLUS 67% OF THE LINEAR FOOTAGE WITH THE HEDGE.
YEAH, I JUST THINK PHASE THREE.
YOU'VE GOT ALL THE NOTES,
SO, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I HAVE ONE QUESTION OR FOR A POINT FOR STAFF.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE JOHN, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT AT THE BEGINNING WHERE YOU, I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME SLIDES IN THERE THAT WEREN'T IN OUR PACKET.
I CREATED SOME, NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT YOUR, NOT PRESENTATION, A STAFF, UH, WHAT YOU PROVIDED TO US AT THE BEGINNING.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME ITEMS IN THERE.
THERE'S SOME NEW ENTRY
I MEAN, WE CAN'T KEEP EVERYTHING UP TO DATE, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME, SOME DOC SOME THINGS IN THERE IN YOUR, THAT WEREN'T IN MY PACKET THAT YOU SHOWED UP HERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT WAS NEW WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND AGAIN, EXCUSE ME, NEW ENTRIES, WE CAN'T KEEP EVERYTHING PERFECT.
SO ANY OTH ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.2? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.2
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 4.2 WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
UH, ONE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION THE CONDITION, THE 5% MINOR MODIFICATION IS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE 10% CUMULATIVE REVISION.
TWO, THE RESIDENTIAL BUFFER IS A FOUR FOOT HEDGE THAT ABU THAT ABUTS ALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THREE, THAT THE TWO-STORY BUILDINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THE 125 FOOT SETBACK HAVE A HEIGHT LIMITATION OF 35 FEET BASED OFF OF THE AVERAGE BETWEEN THE TOP PLATE AND THE TOP OF THE ROOF.
THE 10 FOOT TRAIL IS PROVIDED AT PHASE THREE ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT PENDING APPROVAL BY L C R A AND FIVE FENCING AT PHASE THREE IS PROVIDED ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, EITHER WITH MASONRY OR A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND WOOD FENCING.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WILL SAY THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FEE IN LIEU OF, UM, AND I DIDN'T ADD THAT ONE INTO MY COMMENTS OR THE STIPULATIONS BECAUSE THEY'VE OFFERED TO PROVIDE THE SECOND TRAIL IN PHASE THREE.
RIGHT? I, I THINK THAT'S AN AWESOME COMPROMISE FOR THAT.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
LITTLE BIT OF WORK, BUT WE GOT IT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING ORDINANCE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS UPPER SCHMIDTZ CREEK PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 40.8 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LIER LOOP AND EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD.
UM, THIS IS, LET ME GET TO ONE OF THE, I LIKE WHERE WE'RE RUN THE MAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THIS IS THAT LONG NARROW PIECE THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING OPEN BECAUSE OF THOSE LARGER L C R A LINES.
UM, THAT IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
AND LET ME GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE SPECIFICS NOW.
THIS, UM, TRACT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE YOU JUST HEARD BECAUSE IT IS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
SO THIS ONE HONESTLY HAS ALMOST AN EXACT 50 50, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHAT WE WANTED IS TO HAVE MORE WALKABLE, UM, MULTI-FAMILY TWO COMMERCIAL AND HAVE THAT 50 50 MIX.
NOW, I WILL SAY IN THE COMP PLAN, WE ACTUALLY PLANNED THIS OUT.
ORIGINALLY THIS CAME IN PRIOR TO THE COMP PLAN, UM, BEING FINALIZED.
WE ACTUALLY PLANNED THIS OUT FOR JUST MULTI-FAMILY.
WE WERE HOPING THIS WAS GONNA ACTUALLY OCCUR THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THE 50 50.
SO IT SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THEM GO BACK BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY THE MORE DESIRABLE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY NODE THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR.
UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S AT THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER, UM, AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
AND THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED UNITS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT MORE OF.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF YET NINE UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS LESS THAN WHAT, UM, IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ALLOWED TYPICALLY, ESPECIALLY FOR MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, BUT IT REALLY LENDS ITSELF WELL TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WHEREAS MOST PEOPLE, I THINK YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD'VE GONE A LOT MORE DENSE BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE.
NOW, WITH THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE A HUNDRED AND SEVEN SEVENTY THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, THEY COULD GO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OR LESS THAN THAT JUST WITH THAT NINE UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE 20% HAVE, OR OVER A QUARTER, SORRY, HAVE THE GARAGES, AND THEN 20% ALSO HAVE A 30 FOOT SQUARE FRONT PORCH.
SO YOU'RE GETTING SOME DECENT AMENITIES IN THERE AS WELL.
AND IN GARAGES ARE ONE THING WE ARE NOT TYPICALLY SEEING WITH A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, OKAY? MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO SITE PLANS WILL BE REVIEWED SEPARATELY FOR DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE P U D IF THIS IS APPROVED.
AND KEEP IN MIND, SITE PLANS DO NOT COME TO P AND Z.
SO YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS TO ENSURE PRIVACY OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THE UNITS ARE A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET AWAY, SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS ALONG THE SHARED PROPERTY LINE ONLY, AND THE PROHIBITION OF PORCHES FACING THOSE, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GATHERINGS ADJACENT TO THOSE EXISTING RESIDENCES.
UH, THERE ARE REPEATABILITY STANDARDS.
THERE'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE ROOF EVES, UNIQUE WALL PLANES.
THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED WITHIN THIS P U D.
AND THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ALSO HAS A 30 FOOT BUFFER YARD.
UM, AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THAT TWO TALL NATIVE TREES AND ONE SHORT NATIVE EVERY 50 LINEAR FEET, WHICH IS STANDARD IN OUR UDC.
UM, AND THERE IS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL SETBACK OF A HUNDRED FEET, WHICH IS NOT IN OUR UDC FOR ANY ADJACENT, UM, TRASH ENCLOSURES.
SO UPPER YOU DO HAVE COMMERCIAL THAT DIRECTLY AT BUTS, THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, ANY TRASH ENCLOSURES WOULD BE SET FURTHER BACK.
UM, THE LAST ONE IS THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS I KNOW AS A COMMISSION, UM, WITH STAFF AND LOADING DOCKS CANNOT BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THOSE, UH, EXISTING RESIDENCES.
AND IT ALSO EXTENDS THE EXISTING ALBANY WAY FROM HATO SQUARE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OVER TO ED SCHMIDT.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER CONNECTION WE JUST DISCUSSED.
ONE, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER CONNECTION THAT ACTUALLY, UM, DENNING WOULD CONNECT HATO SQUARE.
AND IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN IN THERE, YOU WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO ONLY TAKE ANDERSON TO GET TO LIMMER LOOP.
SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE EVERYBODY OVER THERE INCLUDING, UM, ANY OTHER TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, EVEN JUST TAKING ANDERSON I DID TODAY, AND IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THERE.
UM, SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE EVERYBODY EXTRA WAY OUT THAN JUST HAVING TO COME SOUTH TO 79 OR NORTH TILLER AND TAKE AN UNPROTECTED LEFT ACROSS TRAFFIC.
UM, THERE IS ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING IN THIS P U D, THAT THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL PARKING REQUIRED, AND THAT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT TO
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PARK IN AN EASEMENT AREA, THERE IS A CAVEAT THAT IT CANNOT BE REQUIRED PARKING.SO INSTEAD WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE TAKING OUT THE REQUIRED PARKING SO THAT PARKING CAN OCCUR.
AND PERHAPS THAT SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE, UM, BUT IT WILL WORK.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE COMMERCIAL WITHOUT THAT PARKING.
AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SO THAT THOSE, THAT AREA CAN STILL BE UTILIZED FOR PARKING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COMMERCIAL IS ALL ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT, AND THEN ALSO UP AT LIMMER, YOU CAN SEE THOSE ADDITIONAL SETBACKS UP THAT NORTHEAST SIDE ARE CALLED OUT UP THERE.
AND YOU ALSO SEE WHERE ALBANY, UH, COMES THROUGH.
SO WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER ROADWAY BEING COMPLETED.
HOPEFULLY ONCE YOU DISPERSE TRAFFIC, IT ACTUALLY GETS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UM, AND THAT WOULD GIVE, UH, PEOPLE AN, AN ADDITIONAL WAY OUT OF HATO SQUARE AS WELL AS THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
THEY'RE ALWAYS PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL DO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UH, LET US OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:07 PM IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WELL THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:07 PM AND OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FROM THE DIAS UNLESS THERE WAS A PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE WITH A PRESENTATION.
UH, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL THE PUBLIC NOTICES ARE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.
YES, WE DID GET SOME IN FAVOR.
WE GOT SOME THAT JUST HAD CLARIFICATIONS OF WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO OCCUR.
AND THEN WE DID ALSO GET SOME OPPOSITION.
AM I UP? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
AMANDA BROWN, AGAIN, HD BROWN CONSULTING.
UM, UH, THE PUTT IS UPPER SCHMIDT'S CREEK.
IT'S AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER LOOP AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED WITH THE, UM, MOST RECENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, ASHLEY KIND OF ALREADY WENT OVER THIS, BUT AGAIN, UM, IT'S, UH, INTENDED TO BE LIKE HI, UH, MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A COMBINATION OF MULTI-FAMILY, UM, AND C ASSOCIATED COM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP.
AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, UN ZONED AND NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY.
UM, WE'LL BE ANNEXING THIS PROPERTY AS WELL WITH ALL OF THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THAT IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX GOING INTO THE CITY.
UM, AND ALSO BEING SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF HOW TO LIGHT NOISE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING THAT, UM, IS INCORPORATED INTO THE BUD THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, THE PROPOSED REZONING IS A, A POD.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF B2 AND MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, UH, ONE THING I DO WANNA NOTE IS THAT ASPEN HEIGHTS, UH, IS THE DEVELOPER AND THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE CAME FORWARD WITH SH UH, SCHMIDT'S CREEK, WHICH IS JUST TO THE SOUTH.
SO THIS IS INTENDED TO BE AN EXTENSION OF, UM, UH, AN EXISTING COMMUNITY THAT'S GONNA BE JUST TO THE SOUTH.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONNECTED.
UM, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IS, UM, SIMILAR AND DENSITY TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF ATTACHED AND DETACHED HOMES.
UM, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE DENSITY ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, SO IT'S LIMITED TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONTEMPLATING ABOUT NINE.
UM, IT'S LIMITED TO TWO STORIES AND 35 FEET, UM, AND, UH, IN HEIGHT.
AND REALLY THAT WAS INTENDED TO SORT OF MIMIC THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE EAST.
AND SO YOU HAVE A REALLY NICE TRANSITION, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEN EXTENDS TO, UM, SORT OF COMMERCIAL
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USES A ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT AND AT THE CORNER OF LEER LOOP, OH, GO BACK ALMOST THERE, I PROMISE.UM, WE MET, UH, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY COMMUNITIES OF THIS, UM, OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE HAVE IMPOSED SOME RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY, UM, THAT I'LL GO ON INTO A LITTLE BIT.
UM, FURTHER, UM, WE'VE LIMITED CURB CUTS ON LI LIMBER LOOP TO NOT EXCEED TWO, JUST TO KIND OF INCREASE THE SAFETY, UM, AND, AND WALKABILITY OF THE AREA.
UM, WE'VE GOT ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH A MULTI-FAMILY PORTION.
UM, WE'VE, UH, IN ENHANCED IT BY REQUIRING PORCHES.
THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF AMENITIES AS WELL, KIND OF SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
UM, WE'VE IMPOSED A DRAINAGE PAWN SETBACK, UM, FROM THE, UM, ANY DRAINAGE PONDS NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HAVE, UH, REQUIRED A EITHER A SETBACK OR SOME GRADING.
UM, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP FROM A CONCERN OF DRAINAGE PONDS, KIND OF AFFECTING ADJACENT FENCES.
SO WE'VE PUT PROVISIONS IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN WITH THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, B2 PODUNK PROVISIONS, WE'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL COMPATIBILITY, UM, THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN, AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, A REDUCTION IN PARKING.
UM, SO AS ASHLEY AND ASHLEY MENTIONED, THE SITE IS VERY MUCH ENCUMBERED WITH TWO EASEMENTS, AN L C R A EASEMENT AND AN ENCORE EASEMENT, BOTH OF WHICH ARE A HUNDRED FEET AND WIDTH.
UM, AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, THOSE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS DO ALLOW PARKING, BUT ONLY IF IT'S SORT OF ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE.
AND SO BY VIRTUE OF THIS PUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PLACE THE PARKING IN IN THOSE EASEMENTS.
UM, I DO WANT TO, UM, UM, KIND OF TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT REALLY FOR SMALL, FOR RETAIL IN GENERAL, UM, THERE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE AMPLE PARKING PROVIDED, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE MARKET DEMANDS IT.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT ANY DEVELOPER OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A BUILDING FUNDED WITHOUT THERE BEING SUFFICIENT PARKING.
AND EVEN IF THERE WAS A BUILDING, YOU WOULD NEVER GET A TENANT.
UM, AND SO IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PARKING.
UM, AND THERE ARE CITIES ALL OUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE NATION THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, JUST GET DOING AWAY WITH MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY OF AUSTIN JUST RECENTLY PASSED, UM, A RESOLUTION TO DO AWAY WITH MINIMUM PARKINGS BECAUSE THE MARKET REALLY DICTATES AND DEMANDS IT, ESPECIALLY FOR, UM, SORT OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL RESTAURANTS, GROCERY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I COVERED EVERYTHING.
UM, SO THIS IS SORT OF OUR CREATIVE WAY TO ALLOW THIS LAND TO BE ACTIVATED, TO BE, UM, ALLOW FOR TAX PRODUCING LAND FOR THE CITY, BOTH PROPERTY TAXES, UM, AND SALES TAX.
AND ALSO, UH, TO REALLY TRULY BE AN AMENITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, THESE ARE GOING TO BE SMALL SCALE IN NATURE AS YOU CAN SEE.
SO IT REALLY WILL BE SORT OF NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING COMMERCIAL, YOUR, UM, UM, NAIL SALONS, RESTAURANTS, MAYBE SMALL GROCERS, UM, YOU KNOW, BARBERSHOPS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, FOR LAND THAT WOULD OTHERWISE JUST BE LAYING VACANT WITH THESE GIANT POWER POLES ON IT.
UM, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING A, UM, AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
WE'VE GOT A FLEET OF ATTORNEYS WORKING ON IT.
UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN A NOD FROM BOTH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UM, THIS, THIS PUD WILL IN FACT ALLOW THIS PARKING TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE STILL GOING ON, BUT THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, UM, IN, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE STAYING AWAY FROM THE POLLS AND EVERYBODY CAN, THEY CAN COME IN AND MAINTAIN THESE AND, AND, AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT IT WORKS FOR, FOR THEIR NEEDS AS WELL.
UM, OKAY, SO WE'VE IMPOSED SOME COMMERCIAL COMPATIBILITY.
SO THIS, UM, THESE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS ARE IN REGARDS TO THE COMMERCIAL B2 PORTION THAT IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, SO THE UDC DOES HAVE CERTAIN LIGHTING RESTRICTIONS.
IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO BE SHIELDED AND KIND OF POINT DOWN, BUT THERE'S NOT LIKE A DEFINITIVE MEASUREMENT.
AND SO WE HAVE IMPOSED IN THE, PUT A DEFINITIVE MEASUREMENT, WHICH IS A 0.5 FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THIS GIVES THE NEIGHBORS AND STAFF TO HAVE MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO BE LIKE, YOUR LIGHT'S TOO BRIGHT AND SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT THAT POINT.
UM, LOADING DOCK ORIENTATION MUST BE, UM, ORIENTED AWAY FROM HOMES.
UM, WE HAVE LIMITED HOURS FOR LOADING FROM 6:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SO THERE'S NO MIDNIGHT LOADING GOING ON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE HAVE IMPOSED A 100 FOOT TRASH ENCLOSURE SETBACK.
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SO ANY SORT OF DUMPSTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED FEET AWAY.UM, AND THEN A ALONG THE, ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AGAIN WILL BE A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UM, WITH STREET TREES AND THOSE SAME HEDGES WILL BE IN PLACE AS WELL, 50 FEET ON CENTER.
UH, SO WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY.
SO THIS IS REALLY INTENDED FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING, UM, COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THE FIRST IS NO HOME WITHIN 25 FEET OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY CAN BE GREATER THAN UM, ONE STORY.
UM, THERE'S A BUFFER ALONG THERE AS WELL.
AGAIN, THE HEDGES ARE THERE AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE PROHIBITED ANY PORCHES FROM FACING THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, UM, AND PROHIBITED ANY SORT OF FRONT ENTRIES, UM, TO THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AS WELL.
SO REALLY TO KIND OF HAVE THE MORE QUIET SIDE OF THE HOME, SORT OF THE SIDE BEING WHAT'S ADJACENT, UM, TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS REALLY INTENDED TO REFLECT WHAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE FENCE.
SO MANY OF THOSE BACKYARDS, I THINK ONE OF 'EM IS SMALL AS THIS EIGHT FEET AND SOME OF THEM ARE 12 FEET.
UM, AND SO REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND, AND INCREASE IT.
UM, I DID WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TRAFFIC WILL BE ADDRESSED.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DEDICATED AND CON CONSTRUCTING THE NEW ROADWAY, WHICH I JUST LEARNED IS ALBANY WAY.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ROAD IS.
UM, WE EXPECT THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND SO ANY UM, ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS OR MITIGATION FUNDS, UM, REQUIRED FOR THAT TO, TO BE DONE WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UM, IF TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, UM, ARE IN PLACE.
THEN WE DID AN ESTIMATE OF JUST THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION ONLY, UM, WHICH IS ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
UH, WE, IT WAS TOUGH TO DO THE RETAIL JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THERE.
SO THAT REALLY DEPENDS A LOT ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE USES AND WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE THERE YET.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION ONLY.
UM, WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S INTO MY PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
MICHAEL BATES WITH ASPEN HEIGHTS IS HERE WITH THE DEVELOPER.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR ENGINEER, ALEX GRANADOS WITH KIMLEY HORN, UM, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ALRIGHT, WELL I WILL START THIS OFF.
FIRST OFF, LOVE THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE GOING IN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS OUTSTANDING.
IT'S VERY CONSCIOUS, CONSCIOUS OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
I LOVE THAT DEVELOPERS ARE STARTING TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY YOU
UM, DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS? OKAY.
UH, FIRST I'M GOING TO, UH, HIT THE TRAFFIC ON ED SCHMIDT AND ALBANY.
IS IT, UM, DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL AND KIND OF BALL PARKING? WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, THE TIFF MIGHT BE? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD PREVIOUSLY THAT A LIGHTED INTERSECTION IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
AND IF I'M SEEING THAT YOU'RE COVERING A THIRD OF THAT JUST ON THE RESIDENTIAL, I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF A PIECE DO YOU THINK THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BRING IN? JUST WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I MEAN AS THIS COMES ONLINE, WE'LL WE'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANY CONCEPT OR IDEA.
IT IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK ONCE WE GET INTO SITE PLANNING, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THESE WHERE WE DELAY A LITTLE BIT ON THE T I TO SEE WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA BE.
CUZ WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY.
AND THEN WE HAVE THAT PER MILE FEE, WHICH I THINK FOR THIS ONE IT'S 400 A MILE.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A QUOTIENT, BUT MOST OF THE, FOR MOST RETAIL JUST OF THOSE, GRANTED IT'S THE BUILDING, NOT THE LOT SO STANDARD WE'RE RUNNING AROUND 130,000 FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT ON EACH OF THOSE LOTS.
IT'S 400 PER VEHICLE MILE, $400.
SO JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR LIKE, UM, ACTUALLY I CAN LOOK ONE UP.
RIVERS, ALBANY, IS THAT THE EAST WEST? NO, THAT'S THE CUT THROUGH ROAD.
THAT'LL CONNECT TO EMORY COVE.
WELL THAT COLLECTED JUST LINES UP SO THAT WHEN WE'RE UP REDOING OR LOOKING AT FORWARD FOR EDGE SCHMIDT, WE DON'T HAVE COMPETING INTERSECTIONS.
IT ACTUALLY WASN'T THE DOWN FOR US CAUSE WE'RE LIKE, WE REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME, UM, CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE TWO AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME NAMING CUZ IT MAY BE THAT ALBANY GETS RENAMED,
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UM, BECAUSE NO ONE'S ADDRESSED OFF OF IT.OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE EXISTING HOMES, BUT LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THAT, ONCE WE GET INTO PLATTING OF, WELL MAYBE THEN WE ACTUALLY DO CHANGE THIS OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, NEXT, UH, WILL EACH LOT HAVE THEIR OWN ACCESS TO EITHER EDGE SCHMIDT OR LIMMER LOOP? NO.
SO ALONG THIS ROADWAY THERE'S UM, A REQUIREMENT FOR A DRIVEWAY SPACING OF 425 FEET.
AND SO THE SPACING, I MEAN THAT'S A REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S GONNA BE A SAFETY REQUIREMENT WHEN WE COME IN TO, TO PLAN THESE.
AND SO THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THOSE SITES.
UM, SPEAKING OF INTERCONNECTIVITY, IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE SOUTH END OF THIS, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME SORT OF CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH MM-HMM.
I MEAN I THINK, I THINK THE INTENT THERE IS TO REALLY CONNECT TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
SO IT'S KIND OF A COHESIVE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND, AND REALLY TO ALSO HELP DISTRIBUTE TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
SO NOT EVERYBODY'S LOADING ONTO ONE ROAD.
AND THAT KIND OF FEEDS INTO THE WALKABILITY ISSUE MM-HMM.
SO IS THERE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, THE NORTHERN PART, PARCEL EIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A STUB PARKING LOT TYPE THING.
LOOKS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A VERY EASY ACCESS POINT.
ANOTHER EASY ACCESS POINT WOULD BE JUST BELOW WHERE IT SAYS PARCEL NINE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A NATURAL FLOW INTO THIS.
AND THEN POSSIBLY, I DON'T KNOW, A 15, 20 FOOT GAP IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
AGAIN, IF WE DESIGN IT TO BE WALKABLE, IT'S GOING TO BE WALKABLE.
IF I MAY, UM, I THINK WE COULD DO VERY SIMILARLY TO THE PREVIOUS ONE IS AGREE, UM, TO, I MEAN THIS WILL BE A GATED COMMUNITY AS WELL MM-HMM.
AND SO A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, MAYBE TWO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS GATES.
SO YOU'VE GOT TWO PEDESTRIAN ACC ACCESS, ACCESS GATES, AND ALSO ALBANY ROAD.
UM, MAYBE COVERING ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE.
IT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING TO THESE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SPACES, BUT IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON ONE END, YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE TO THE OTHER MM-HMM.
UM, IS IT FEASIBLE LIKE BETWEEN LOT SIX AND SEVEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOCKED AND DASH LINED AND THEN BETWEEN LOT FIVE AND LOT FOUR AND PARCEL EIGHT AND THEN BETWEEN LOT BASICALLY THAT, THAT NORTH SOUTH THOROUGHFARE THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL LOTS, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME WALKWAY THERE THAT GOES, THAT BASICALLY EXTENDS ALL THE WAY FROM LIER LOOP BETWEEN LOT SIX AND SEVEN AND THEN, UM, WEST OF LOT 5, 4, 3, I, I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT IN BETWEEN THOSE LOTS LIKE THAT MM-HMM.
WELL IT, IT'S BEHIND THE HOUSES, BUT NOW BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE STREET ITSELF, THE LOTS KIND OF BLENDING INTO EACH OTHER.
YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY WALKING THROUGH A PARKING LOT.
WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
UM, OH, UM, THERE WE GO ON LOT SIX.
SO I'VE GOT AN EASEMENT CHOPPING OFF THE WEST SIDE OF LOT SIX AND THEN THE POWER LINE EASEMENT TURNS AND YOU'VE GOT THIS USABLE SPACE OUT THERE.
IS THAT NOT EVEN GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR ANY SORT OF, I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, COFFEE HUT DRIVE THROUGH TYPE THING? YES, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT.
ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS EVEN SAID THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT.
YEAH, CLEARLY IT WOULD HAVE TO,
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I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE THERE WOULD BE JOINT ACCESS.I MEAN, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO ACCESS IT FROM LIMBER LOOP.
THAT COULD BE A SMALL SORT OF COFFEE SHOP COFFEE HU SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, YEAH, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF ACCESS ONTO EDGE SCHMIDT AND ONTO LIMBER LOOP.
UM, I WOULD PREFER IF THERE WERE NONE AND THAT IT ALL FLOWED INTO, UH, ALBANY AND HOPEFULLY A SIGNALED INTERSECTION THERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON EDGE SCHMIDT.
UNTIL WE GET EDGE SCHMIDT FIXED, UNTIL WE GET EDGE SCHMIDT WIDENED, GET THE CORRECT LANES IN THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A MESS IF WE'VE GOT DRIVEWAYS ALONG THERE CUZ YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET OUT.
I SEE PEOPLE STUCK AT THE EXXON AT THE CORNER, THEY JUST CAN'T GET OUT BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP TO EMORY COVE OR FURTHER MM-HMM.
SO I THINK IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTION TO THAT WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN AN OPTION TO IMPEDE TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF LIMITATIONS WE'VE GOT WITH FIRE, WITH EMERGENCY WITH BY RIGHT.
OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IN IS THAT THERE WILL BE NO, WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF LOT SIX, THAT THAT LITTLE HUT, UH, LOT ONE THROUGH FIVE AND LOT SEVEN WILL NOT HAVE ANY DRIVE THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LEGALLY PROHIBIT.
I MEAN YOU CAN REQUEST, SAY THAT AGAIN WHAT YOU WERE NO, NO DRIVE THROUGH FOR LOT ONE THROUGH FIVE AND FOR LOT SEVEN DRIVE THROUGH AS IN LIKE A MCDONALD'S.
SO A HIGHER INTENSITY VEHICLE USE.
OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE THIS WALKABLE SPACE, WE WANT TO CUT DOWN ON VEHICLE TRAFFIC SEVEN.
SO SIX WOULD HAVE A DRIVE ON PUT THESE YEAH.
THAT'S TO LEAVE THE COFFEE SHOP.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL BATES, I'M WITH THE ASPEN HEIGHTS PARTNERS.
UM, I THINK WHAT WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY TRYING TO RESTRICT THERE WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH IS THIS QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT BEING SPECIFIC AND SAY NO, NO QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER BUSINESSES MIGHT NEED OR WANT A, A BANK.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF COFFEE'S CONSIDERED A RESTAURANT.
YOU COULD PUT AN EXCEPTION IN DON'T RESTRICT COFFEE.
BECAUSE THAT'S AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA, IF SOMEONE'S GONNA WALK ACROSS THE PARKING LOT TO A COFFEE HUT, THEY'RE GONNA WALK ACROSS THE PARKING LOT TO A COFFEE HUT.
THAT, THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE IS INTERESTING.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A, A VERY, VERY GOOD DESIGN AND MARK BAKER I THINK CAN COME UP WITH IT IF HE'S THE ONE THAT THEY, THAT THE BUYER WOULD CHOOSE.
BUT WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED IN STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT AND THESE SITES TO RETAILERS WITH COFFEE SHOPS JUST STARTED LINING UP.
WE REALLY HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT AS A LOCATION FOR A COFFEE SHOP BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL AND BECAUSE IT'S A TRIANGLE.
AND, AND THEY, HERE THEY COME, YOU KNOW, SHOWING US HOW IT FITS.
SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THAT IS DESTINED TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO GO OUT TOO FAR INTO THE MARKET, GET, GET OVER OUR SKIS ON THIS APPROVAL BECAUSE IF I START SHOWING THINGS AND SAYING I CAN DO IT AND THEN YOU WANT TO RESTRICT IT, I'LL BE, I'LL HAVE TO BE TAKING THINGS BACK.
BUT YEAH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PRESENTATION YOU SHOWED A LOT OF, UH, SMALLER RESTAURANTS AND SMALLER RETAIL AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AS PART OF THE APPEAL OF THE WALKABILITY AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20 CAR DEEP DRIVE-THROUGHS ALL THROUGH HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT COOK SERVICE RESTAURANTS, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PUT ONE IN, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M GONNA ASK WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE DOWN ON EDGE SCHMIDT WITH WENDY'S AND ALL THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF COMMUNITY RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
SO WHY WOULD WE LIMIT IT HERE WHEN WE
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HAVE THAT AREA? HAS EVERYTHING OPEN ALSO BECAUSE THAT, UH, MY MY OPINION, THE ONE SOUTH OF 79 MM-HMM.I WANT THAT P U D
THAT, THAT ONE HAS MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
I'M JUST, AND AND THIS ONE WE'RE, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO BE THE COUNTERPOINT TO THIS CONVERSATION OF I DON'T WANNA LIMIT BUSINESSES AND REVENUE COMING TO MY COMMUNITY AND THERE'S ENOUGH, THERE'S ENOUGH CONSTRAINTS ON THIS SITE THAT SAYING YOU CAN'T PUT IN SOMETHING, THEY'RE GONNA BE CONSTRAINED RIGHT NOW BY THE 200 FOOT EASEMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LIMITED TO EVEN THE LOSS THAT THEY COULD PUT A DRIVE THROUGH ON JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE BUILDING'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SITUATED ON THE SITE AND YOU'RE PUSHING ON THE BACKSIDE AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A WAY TO GET THE CARS THROUGH AND TURN EVERYTHING.
I WOULD RATHER NOT PUT A LIMIT ON IT SO THAT HEY, I WANT THE REVENUE COMING IN HERE.
WE WANT TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY, WE WANNA HAVE THESE SHOPS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT NORTH OF LIER LOOP, WHAT FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS DO WE HAVE? WHAT COFFEE SHOPS, WHAT RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS IN THAT VICINITY ARE THERE, THERE ARE 1, 2, 3 GAS STATION CONVENIENT STORES AND THAT'S IT.
SO I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS AS THAT BRIDGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMUNITY THERE THAT WE'VE GOT IT OPEN AND THEY CAN PUT WHATEVER THERE WITHIN A REASONING OBVIOUSLY, BUT GIVES THEM, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? LOT SIX THEY CAN PUT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IN.
NOW YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ON THAT SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY CUZ EVERYTHING IS RIGHT ON 79.
UM, SO QUESTION FOR, UH, ASHLEY MM-HMM.
WE HAVE SOME TWO STORY KIND OF OFFICE SLASH RETAIL MM-HMM.
THERE'S A DRIVE-THROUGH AT LCS LC.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I I WOULD SAY LCS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CUZ IT'S MORE IN THAT COMMERCIAL CENTER.
UM, CUZ YOU ALSO HAVE A KFC RIGHT OVER THERE AS WELL THAT'S NEXT TO THE ROAD.
WE CAN ADD IN SOME THINGS TO THE P D IF THAT'S THE CONCERN.
CAN WE ADD A THAT IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ANY QUICK RE QUICK DRIVE THROUGH WHATEVER THAT CALL, QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT.
QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT, QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT.
YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO IT OR YOU COULD SAY TWO BY RIGHT.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO ME.
I DON'T WANNA LIMIT IT, BUT IF YOU'RE CONCERNED IF WE DO IT THE, THAT INSIDE THE P U D AT LEAST GIVES P AND Z THE OPPORTUNITY OF TO LOOK AT THAT PLAN AND SAY, OKAY, THIS WORKS OR IT DOESN'T WORK AND HERE'S OUR CONCERNS MM-HMM.
CAN, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? UM, I THINK MAYBE TO AVOID HAVING IT ALL BE DRIVE THROUGHS, UM, MAYBE LIMIT IT TO MAYBE THREE WITHIN THE PUT AND MAYBE ANOTHER PROVISION TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT ADJACENT AND JUST MAKE A GENERAL LIMIT.
I DON'T LIKE THAT YOU DON'T WANNA LIMIT.
I DON'T WANT, THAT'S NOT, I WOULD RATHER ALSO LIKE ALL BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE LIMITING YOUR TRAFFIC FLOW AT ONE SPACE'S.
GOOD IF WE PUT 'EM ALL IN LOT SIX, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MINIMIZES CONFLICTS.
THINK ON THAT ONE CUZ I DO HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT.
I WILL CONTINUE TO CHEW THAT OVER.
SO, UM, THE LIGHTING, UH, I SEE YOUR, THE, THE VERBIAGE THAT'S IN HERE, UM, ARE THESE FULL CUTOFF? ARE THESE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AND THEN CONSIDERING HOW ADJACENT IT IS TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT IN ANY OF OUR STANDARDS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE'RE DOING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE INTEGRATED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT WE HAVE A STIPULATION THAT ESPECIALLY PARKING LOT LIGHTS THAT, UM, AT A CERTAIN TIME 50% OF THEM HAVE TO TURN OFF AND IF THERE'S NO ACTIVITY, THE OTHER 50% HAVE TO DIM 50% SO THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A VERY NICE ATMOSPHERE IN THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT'S A PUT
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SO THE UDC ALREADY REQUIRES THEM TO BE SHIELDED.UM, IT IS NOT DARK, DARK SKIES COMPLIANT.
UM, BUT THE CODE ALREADY DOES REQUIRE FOR THEM TO BE SHIELDED.
SO THE FOOT CANDLE REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER LIGHTING IS PROVIDED, IT HAS TO BE SHIELDED, FULLY CUT OFF, POINTING DOWN.
UM, AND ALSO NOT EXCEED THE 0.5 FOOT CANDLE.
UM, OUR MOTION CENSORED LIGHTING IS, IS THAT, SO I'VE NOT HEARD OF THIS, BUT, SO YEAH, SO I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, YOU'RE SHIELDING, UH, YOU'RE GOING BY FOOT CANDLES INSTEAD OF BUGGER RATING, I BELIEVE THE BG RATINGS FOR THE LIGHTS.
BUT ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT'S MOVING FORWARD, UM, FOR SUSTAINABLE TYPE COMMUNITIES IS THAT WE WANNA LIMIT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL, THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT.
AND SO BECAUSE THESE ARE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS, YOU'RE SEVEN TO NINE OR SIX TO NINE AT NINE O'CLOCK, 50% OF THOSE PARKING LOTS GO OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE THERE.
AND THE OTHER 50% DIMMED DOWN TO 50% THRESHOLD UNLESS THERE'S MOTION DETECTED AND THEY AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THAT GIVES YOU THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE SITE, BUT IT ALSO THEN LIMITS ALL THE LIGHT ON THE SITE SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER ATMOSPHERE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I BELIEVE WE WILL BE OKAY WITH THAT.
I MEAN THIS IS, UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT LEAD.
THIS IS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEAD VERSIONS OF MM-HMM.
I, LET'S, I MEAN IF WE CAN PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT'S, THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERNS AND DOESN'T BOX ME IN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME BACK AND, AND REVIEW THAT WITH, WITH, UH, THE, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
UH, IT, I MEAN, IN THEORY, THESE, THESE SHUTS SHUTTING OFF OF LIGHTS AND REDUCING THE, THE, UH, POWER TO THEM IS GONNA SAVE MONEY ON THE OPERATING SIDE.
SO IT'S NOT AN ALTOGETHER BAD THING FOR US.
I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE THINGS, UNLESS THERE'S AN AN IMPETUS TO PUT FORWARD WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, BY SOME REGULATORY AUTHORITY, WE DON'T ALL DO 'EM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WELL THAT'S, NO, I UNDERSTAND.
WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT LEAD, THAT'S A BAD WORD.
SO I WOULD RATHER START INTEGRATING SOME OF THESE THINGS INTO THE PUS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT YOU GET USED TO IT, YOU SEE THE BENEFIT TO YOUR FACILITIES, AND THEN YOU START TAKING ON THAT THRESHOLD OF DOING ON YOUR NEW FACILITIES.
SO, SO WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO CHEW.
I, I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIVE WITH THAT.
AGAIN, I'D LIKE MAYBE A CONDITION IN THERE THAT IF, IF A, IF THE, THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO PUT SOMEONE ON ANOTHER LOT, WE CAN COME BACK TO THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AS WELL.
UM, WE CAN, YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A, YEAH.
I, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THREE TOTAL.
I'M JUST THINKING FOR THE WALKABILITY FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM.
THAT MIGHT BE WHERE YOU'D RATHER JUST HAVE THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, AND THEN PUT MORE OF IT UP ON THE CORNER, MAYBE SEVEN AND SIX AND EVEN LOT ONE WITH THAT LINING UP THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE ENCORE SUBSTATION ACROSS THE WAY.
I WANNA MAKE A LITTLE NOTE HERE.
AND WHAT IS THE LIGHTING STANDARD THAT YOU WERE GOING WITH? SO FOR THE COMMERCIAL THAT, UM, 50% OF THE PARKING LOTS ARE TURNED OFF AT NINE O'CLOCK AND THAT THE OTHER HALF ARE DIMMED TO 50% WHEN NO ACTIVITY IS DETECTED ON SITE.
IS THAT JUST FOR LOT SEVEN? FOR WHAT? FOR THE LIGHTING? THE LIGHTING.
LIGHTING WOULD BE ALL COMMERCIAL LOTS.
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UH, ANY FURTHER? YEAH.THESE, UM, THE NOTICES, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
IF YOU'RE THE NOTICE IS THAT, UM, THAT YOU RECEIVED, I GUESS THEY WERE ADDRESSED TO, TO THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE CITY.
WELL I COUNT 19, ALTHOUGH I THINK THERE ARE TWO DUPLICATES MM-HMM.
CAN YOU SUMMARIZE WHAT, WHAT THE, UM, OBJECTIONS WERE TRAFFIC? MM-HMM.
I THINK WE DID HAVE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UM, AT THEIR POOL.
UM, AND IT, IT WENT REALLY WELL.
I MEAN, O OVERALL, UM, THERE WERE, UM, EVERYBODY'S EXCITED TO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL AMENITIES UP HERE.
UM, I THINK, UH, I THINK THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY WAS VIEWED FAVORABLY.
UM, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT ABOUT A CONCERN OF THE ROADWAY EXTENSION, UM, AND THEN JUST GENERAL COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE HOMES.
UM, BUT THAT WAS, I WOULD SAY THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS TRAFFIC.
AND THEN I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND THAT PRIMARY CONCERN WAS LIGHTING AND NOISE.
WELL, I JUST WANNA KIND OF FOR THE RECORD, GET THOSE INCLUDED.
UM, I NOTICED THAT EVEN ON A COUPLE OF THE OBJECTIONS, THEY WERE KIND OF SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF TRAFFIC WAS MITIGATED, WHICH IS NOT Y'ALL'S, NOT THAT'S NOT IN Y'ALL'S PURVIEW, BUT IN OTHER WORDS IT'S, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS REALLY TWO TO ONE OBJECTION, EVEN SOME OF THE ONES THAT OBJECTED, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S ONCE KIND OF, THEY'RE FEELING AND I'M, I'M, I'M PARAPHRASING OR SUMMARY OR PARAPHRASING WHAT THEY SAY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID, BUT TO ME, AS, AS ONCE THE TRAFFIC GETS A LITTLE BETTER, THIS IS, WE'RE REALLY FOR THIS STUFF.
IT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED ON THE RECORD.
THAT'S THE CENTER WE HAVE GOTTEN AS WELL.
I, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR, PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON ONE OF THESE RESPONSES.
IT SAYS THEY'RE 14, THEIR HOUSE IS 14 FEET AWAY FROM THE COMMERCIAL END OF THIS.
CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN WHERE THAT'S AT? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ON THAT VERY NORTHERN, UM, CUL-DE-SAC EXISTING UP TOWARDS.
AND THEN I BELIEVE MAUREEN IS THE ONE THAT YOU REACHED OUT, CHAD SEPARATELY, BUT THERE'S A 30 FOOT BUFFER THERE.
SINCE, YEAH, I MEAN THE PROPERTY LINE, IT'S CORRECT.
BUT YEAH, UM, WHEN WE SEND THESE OUT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE FINALIZED AND CERTAINLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING HADN'T OCCURRED.
SO THEY'RE USUALLY JUST WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND MY HOUSE.
UM, UNTIL, AND IF THEY ASK, WE ALWAYS PROVIDE THEM EVERYTHING, BUT WITH STATE LOBBYING THE WAY IT IS, WE DON'T SEND THE FULL P U D PACKET TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 600 FEET.
AND I HAD A CONVER A SPECIFIC CONVERSATION WITH JUST HER.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT DROVE A LOT OF THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN HERE NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE FENCING ON THAT LOT.
SEVEN OF, OKAY, CAN WE PROVIDE A MASONRY FENCE BETWEEN BEHIND THE TREES BETWEEN THAT AND THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS? BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEADLIGHTS, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT WERE MITIGATING THE LIGHT.
BUT TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE OF HOW ARE WE PROTECTING THOSE NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THE PERSON'S HOUSE THAT IS RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND MY CONCERNS COULD, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE EIGHT FEET.
YOU KNOW, THOSE YARDS ARE FAIRLY SHALLOW FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
IF WE PUT UP AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, THE SUN'S GONNA CUT OFF IN THOSE BACKYARDS PRETTY EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
I DON'T, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
THAT COULD BE MORE SHADE, BUT I'M JUST YEAH.
I MEAN, OR SIX FOOT WOULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO, UM, BECAUSE THIS, YOU KNOW, SITE HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED MM-HMM.
CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE SITE NATURALLY FLOWS.
UM, BUT IF, IF IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS HEAD-ON PARKING GOING TOWARDS THEM, THEN A MASONRY WALL, IT'S NOT REALLY THE HEAD-ON PARKING.
IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, UM, PRIVACY A, A BUFFER.
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A BUFFER, BUT IT'S MORE GETTING TO SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THESE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE THESE HOUSES SO CLOSE.WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT BACK UP THERE, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TE YOU COULD QUICKLY PARK THEIR CAR, JUMP OVER THE FENCE, BREAK INTO THE HOUSE, THEIR CAR IS SHIELDED FROM ANYTHING, THE NEIGHBORS WON'T SEE IT, THEY GO BACK OUT THAT BACKSIDE AND THEY ZOOM OFF.
AND THAT PROVIDES 'EM AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY OF, HEY, THEY PUT UP THIS FENCE.
SO TO ME IT'S EITHER, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE OR A MASONRY FENCE THERE TO PROVIDE A BUFFER FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
CAN WE DO THE MASONRY AND THEN THE WOOD MASONRY WOOD KIND OF THE SAME DEAL? MM-HMM.
ON SEVEN ON LOT SEVEN ON LOT SEVEN.
I JUST, JUST NON-SCALABLE AS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
WIRE UP THERE AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO.
BUT THEY'RE ONLY ON MASONRY WALLS, SO THAT COULD BE A WIN.
WELL HOW DOES, UH, KURT, HOW DOES THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LOOKING AT LOT SEVEN AND SIX, YOU KNOW, ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH PARCEL A AND THEN LOT FIVE WITH PARCEL A, UM, ARE THOSE BLACK LINES FENCES? NO.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ALSO CONCEPTUAL.
THE, THE LOTS THAT, SO I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY NOW THE, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ARE MUCH LARGER.
BUT, SO TO ME THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THIS IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
AH, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY'RE PARCEL EIGHT AND EVERYTHING IS PART, THE WHOLE THING IS DEVELOPMENT.
SO TO ME THAT'S ON THEM TO MITIGATE, I WANT TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING THERE AND DIDN'T EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COME IN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.3 THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.3.
AND ARE YOU TAKING ALL THE NOTES? YOU ARE NOT TAKING ALL THE NOTES.
I MAKE A MOTION NOW I GOTTA GO TO THE FRONT REAL QUICK.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL THE UPPER SCHMIDTZ CREEK PD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE 5% MINOR MODIFICATIONS SHALL BE AMENDED TO 10% CUMULATIVE ALLOWANCE.
NUMBER TWO, LIMIT, UH, IN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THREE QUICKER, UH, FACILITIES.
UM, NUMBER 2, 3, 3, UM, THAT ON LOT SEVEN, EITHER A DRAINAGE ZONE OR A MASONRY AND WOOD EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE BE PROVIDED ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND NUMBER FOUR,
THE REMAINDER OF THE 50% WILL BE ON MOTION SENSORS THAT WILL DIM DOWN TO 50% THRESHOLD AND ACTIVATE UPON MOTION.
IF I COULD OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UH, SORRY, I WILL SECOND, BUT IF I COULD OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT INSTEAD OF THREE QUICKER RESTAURANTS, THREE LOTS ARE ALLOWED QUICKER.
RESTAURANTS TRYING TO KEEP IT, KEEP A DOUBLE FROM HAPPENING ON THE SAME LOT.
WELL, SO I WAS TRYING TO DO THREE TOTAL BECAUSE THAT THREE LOTS COULD MEAN THEY COULD HAVE NINE RESTAURANTS.
AND I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO LIMIT IT DOWN TO JUST A FEW.
WE ARE TRYING, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE LOT SIX COFFEE HUT AND LOT SIX MCDOUGALS.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE MORE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO LIMITING IT TO THREE LOTS ARE YOU, IF, IF YOU WANT, THAT'S TWO TO THREE.
NO, I'M, I'M, THAT WORKS FOR ME.
WOULD THAT BE ONE PER LOT? SO STILL ONLY THREE? UH, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE ONE PERLO, BUT AGAIN, LOT SIX IS KIND OF WONKY.
YEAH, IT MIGHT, WE COULD HAVE TWO, MAYBE EVEN THREE ON THERE.
I MEAN, I, YOUR MAXIMUM AMOUNT I'D, HONESTLY I'D LIMIT IT BY LOTS.
AND I THINK ABOUT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS, UM, CHIPOTLE AND THERE'S A TACO PLACE AND THAT LOT CAN FACILITATE TWO OR THREE RESTAURANTS,
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SO MM-HMM.AND SO I WOULD SAY I'LL GO WITH LOTS.
IF, IF I MAY PUT ON THE RECORD, UM, LOTS MEANING LOTS IDENTIFIED IN THE PUT DOCUMENT, THE ULTIMATE SUBDIVIDED PLATTED LOTS MAY BE YEAH.
LOT LOTS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT B.
WE GO WHAT, WHAT IF, WHAT IF THE A BUYER WANTS TO CHANGE ONE OF THOSE LOTS INTO A SMALLER OR BIGGER LOT? IT, IT'S, THEY CAN PLAT IT DIFFERENTLY.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THERE WAS A LOT TO EAT THERE.
ALL GOOD THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
NEXT ITEM IS 4.4 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED NORTHTOWN COMMONS.
LOTS TWO THROUGH FOUR BLOCK, A FINAL PLAT, 2.864 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND.
THREE COMMERCIAL LOTS LOCATED SOUTH OF FM 1660 ALONG THE EAST SIDE.
UH, SHOULD BE SOUTH OF LIMMER LOOP RIGHT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF FM.
YEAH, CUZ THIS ONE ISN'T, IT'S SOUTH OF LILO BUT IT'S SOUTH OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LILO.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S SOUTH OF 1660 ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST OVER TWO AND A HALF ACRES.
UM, IT IS SUBDIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS.
THIS MEETS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN, I BELIEVE TWO MEETINGS AGO.
LET'S JUST CALL IT TWO MONTHS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A FEW SPECIAL CALLED, UM, MEETINGS IN THERE.
AND THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ENLIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE, UM, AND THE DURANGO P U D TO THE SOUTH THAT IS NOT YET CONSTRUCTED, THAT HAS, UM, POSSIBLE MULTI-FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL USES.
AND UH, FURTHER EAST IS AN ADDITIONAL NORTHTOWN COMMONS LOT INTO THE WEST IS THE 1660 STREET.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE LOT SEVEN IS AN EXISTING, UM, NORTHTOWN COMMONS TO THE SOUTH.
AGAIN, MULTI-FAMILY COMMERCIAL, NORTH COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE LOT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS ACTUALLY ALREADY EXISTING GAS STATION C STORE.
SO WITH THAT, ALL COMMENTS WERE CLEARED DURING REVIEW AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UM, SUBJECT TO THE GUIDELINES OF THE UDC AND STATE LAW.
I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW IS ACC VEHICLE ACCESS TO LOT FOUR ACCOMPLISHED? IS THAT THROUGH THE SPLIT DRIVEWAY BETWEEN LOT TWO AND THREE? YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF JOINT ACCESS EASEMENTS ACROSS THIS ENTIRE AREA.
THERE'S ONE THAT GOES TO THE NORTH, THERE'S LIKE A 30 FOOT JOINT ACCESS EASEMENT AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 15, UM, ALONG THAT NORTHERN BOUNDARY WITH WHAT YOU SEE AS BLOCK A LOT ONE.
AND ALSO THAT ACTION PLUS ENTERPRISES, IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS PLAT.
UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THAT LITTLE AREA THAT ACTUALLY DOES THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT TRIANGULAR SHAPE ON THE FINAL PLAT.
UM, SO THAT YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING ACCESS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CROSS ACCESS ACROSS.
AND THEN WITH THAT 15 FOOT JOINT ACCESS, THEY CAN ALSO COME IN OFF OF THAT ONE CUL-DE-SAC THAT'S SHOWN JUST OFF TO THE EAST OF LOT SIX.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THERE IS NO JOINT ACCESS ACROSS LOT THREE OR LOT FOUR RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY.
PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH? NO, IT'S MORE ON THE FRONTAGE PORTION OF THAT.
THERE'S THE LARGER JOINT ACCESS EASEMENT.
UM, THAT CONTINUES FURTHER NORTH.
SO IT'S ABOUT A, I WANNA SAY IT'S STILL 15, 20 FEET.
YEAH, I SEE A 40 FOOT, IT'S A 40 FOOT ACCESS AT THE FRONT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ALONG THE SOUTH BORDER.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING DURING SITE PLAN IF THEY NEEDED TO, BUT AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOTHING ON THE PLAT FOR THAT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.4.
UM, I, UH, ENTERTAINED A MOTION
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TO ACCEPT 4.4 AS PROVIDED BY STAFF AND RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOYER TO APPROVE 4.4 AS PRESENTED.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
I'M SORRY, THIS IS, UM, I'M SHOULD ON MOTION ON ITEM 4.3.
WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WASN'T LISTED 4.4.
I WROTE A NOTE HERE BUT I DIDN'T BRING IT UP AT THE PROPER TIME.
I ASSUME WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, FINAL PLAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ONE.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A MINUTE,
SAME, BUT APPARENTLY I CAN'T TYPE SO
UH, SO ANY UH, QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON 42 AND 43.
YOU DID NOT STATE WHO MADE THE MOTION AND WHO SECONDED? UH, ON 42.
UH, THAT WAS UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCHWART FAGER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON.
AND SAME FOR 4.3? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS ITEM FIVE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT SLOWING DOWN, WE HAVE AN UPCOMING MEETING ON SIX SIX THAT WILL INCLUDE A PORTION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE CITY ENGINEER IS THAT THIS IS A VERY ROBUST C I P UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ROBUST, ROBUST, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO UM, GET THE INFORMATION, LOOK IT OVER, AND THEN NOT ACTUALLY MAKE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL UNTIL SIX 20 IN THE BUDGET CALENDAR.
SIX 20 IS A SPECIAL CALL JUST FOR THE C I P.
WE ARE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ON THAT MEETING OTHER THAN C I P.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THAT INFORMATION, WHAT WE HAVE EARLY ENOUGH IN THE MONTH SO WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO SEE IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON IT IN THE SAME NIGHT.
CUZ WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WE WILL TRY TO COVER A MAJORITY OF IT ON THE SIXTH.
UM, THERE MAY BE A PART THAT WE JUST GET TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIVE TO 10 YEAR PROJECT AND, AND WE KIND OF, UM, JUST DIVE INTO THE BULK OF WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THE C I P RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'LL INCLUDE WATER, WASTEWATER, STREETS AND PARKS.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
UM, QUESTION FOR YOU REGARDING THE U D C PROJECT.
UM, THERE WAS A MEETING THAT WAS NOT HELD, I THINK IT WAS CUZ I, WE'LL MEET THIS FRIDAY.
WE WERE GONNA HAVE A MEETING AND THEN I GOT SUBPOENAED, UM, FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY COURT.
UM, AND WE WILL GO OVER THE SUBMITTALS AND MAKE THE START NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL, UM, SOMETIME IN JUNE, NOT JUNE 6TH.
UM, SO I'M HOPING THE TO AWARD EITHER THE SECOND MEETING OF JUNE OR POTENTIALLY IN JULY, BUT WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON THAT ONE.
WELL I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
UH, AND I SEE THERE IS NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 9:00 PM.