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O'CLOCK AND I WILL CALL THIS MEETING[Planning and Zoning]
OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 6TH TO ORDER.COMMISSIONER SCHWART, FIGURE HERE.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY EITHER.
WELL THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG INTO ITEM FOUR, 4.1.
UH, ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE 4.1 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING HELD ON MAY 2ND, 2023.
4.2 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING HELD ON MAY 16TH, 2023.
4.3 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED LIDL WALKER.
PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT, 25.134 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 86 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ONE AMENITY LOT AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.
CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED LIDDELL WALKER, PHASE TWO FINAL PLAT, 39.937 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 194 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SIX OPEN SPACE SLASH DETENTION LOTS AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 1 32 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
ARE THERE ANY, ANY REMOVALS CHANGES TO THE CONSENT? THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOYER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
NEXT IS ITEM 5.1, CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING IMPOSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 9 0 1 EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD TO ALLOW A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY UDC 10.30.
UM, THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES.
IT IS SOUTH OF THE, UM, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EDGE, SCHMIDT AND LIMMER.
AND IT IS PART OF THE EDGE SCHMIDT COMMERCIAL EDITION, WHICH YOU MAY RECALL CAME THROUGH A FEW MONTHS AGO.
UM, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN S U P OR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH, AS THAT IS TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT LESS AUTO ORIENTED.
THE ADJACENT ZONING AND USES, UM, TO THE WEST.
WE'VE GOT, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS POINT.
UM, TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE THAT CONVENIENCE STORE.
THE SEA STORE WITH THE GAS STATION EAST IS, UM, THE E T J DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE ARE FINALIZING THAT ANNEXATION THOUGH, SO THAT WILL BE IN THE CITY.
IT, YOU DID SEE THAT, UH, YOUR MAY 16TH SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
IT WAS CALLED UPPER SCHMIDTZ CREEK.
SO THAT'LL BE, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET AND FOR SOUTH IT'S JUST VACANT COMMERCIAL ZONING.
AGAIN, IT'S IN THE SAME, UM, PLATTED AREA.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 6,300 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT IN RETAIL MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WITH THAT DRIVE-THROUGH.
AND AGAIN, THE DRIVE-THROUGH IS THE ONE THAT REQUIRES THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW.
YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH THE SITE PLAN, UM, YOU'VE GOT THE DRIVE-THROUGH AT, AT THE SITE PLAN REALLY DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST STATUTORY THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UM, FOR THAT U YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF THE SHARED DRIVE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT PLAT.
IT WAS JUST THE OVERALL LETTER OF LIKE WHY THEY NEED THIS, BUT IT REALLY IS JUST TO SATISFY THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS OF UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WITH THAT WE HAD 40 ADJACENT OWNERS NOTIFIED.
UM, AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND AGAIN, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL THEN I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:06 PM IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 5.1? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
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AT 7:06 PM AND TO OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FROM THE DIAS.IF WE CAN GO BACK, I THINK IT'S ONE SLIDE TO THE, TO THE SITE LAYOUT.
IS THAT 6,300 SQUARE FEET? THAT BUILDING APPROXIMATELY? YEAH.
THAT'S PROBABLY A ONE TO 20 SCALE.
YEAH, FOR SOME REASON IT JUST LOOKS SMALL.
CONSIDERING THAT'S 182 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON EDGE SCHMIDT.
LITTLE BIT DEEPER YOU CAN OKAY.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FIT ON THE LOT.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT, UM, WE ACTUALLY DID DOUBLE CHECK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OKAY.
THE ELEVATION, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT I SAW IN THE PACKET.
BUT THEN LOOKING AT THIS SITE PLAN AS LIKE, IT KINDA LOOKS YEAH.
UM, SO WE WILL HAVE A VACANT LOT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND THIS BUILDING? YES.
CURRENTLY IT'S STILL UNDEVELOPED.
UH, I DID SEE SOMETHING ON THE, YEAH, HERE IT IS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT PAGE OR THE PACKET THAT IS, OR 19 OF 23.
IS THERE ANY, UM, CONDITION OR REQUIREMENT TO PUT TREES BETWEEN THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE AND THE HOUSES? UM, NO, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT, UH, INTERCEDING LOT.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE, I MEAN, THEY DO HAVE TO STILL MEET THEIR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ON SITE.
SO YOU MAY SEE TREES SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OVER BY, UM, CHIPOTLE, TACO CASAA, AND SOME OF THOSE, LIKE YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPE OR ANYWHERE BETWEEN POPEYE'S AND WENDY'S.
UM, BUT TECHNICALLY NO, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PUT THOSE AS A BUFFER BECAUSE THERE IS THAT INTERMEDIATE LOT.
I WAS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING BECAUSE WE HAD, UH, WAY BACK IN THE DAY, WE HAD THE THING WITH, UH, PANDA AND CHICK-FIL-A WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE SCREENING.
SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SCREENING.
WE JUST DON'T TRY TO DOUBLE UP SO THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME LANDSCAPING, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME.
THE SCREENING ISN'T GONNA BE AS ROBUST AS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER FOR A BUFFER YARD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.1.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, AGENDA ITEM 5.1 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHWARTZER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED NORTHTOWN COMMONS BLOCK B PRELIMINARY PLAT 3.1 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND TWO COMMERCIAL LOTS LOCATED ON LIMMER LOOP.
AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THERE IS NO ACTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE? CORRECT.
WE WOULD PREFER ONLY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE STARTING TO DO THESE JUST BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT WE DO KNOW, STAFF HAS ALREADY SENT THE COMMENTS BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER, BUT THERE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TIME TO GET EVERYTHING BACK.
BUT WE DO WANNA GO AHEAD AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING KNOWING THAT IT JUST MAKES IT MORE SIMPLE MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAVE STILL NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSES BACK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS, THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT MIRRORS WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE REVISED P U D A FEW MONTHS AGO.
UM, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE PLATTED WITHOUT THAT STREET SHOWN IN IT BECAUSE THE STREET WAS REMOVED FROM THE P U D.
SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL NEXT P AND Z SESSION? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I WOULD.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AMAZING JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, WE WERE HOPING THAT WE COULD GET THIS
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ON, BUT IF IT'S PUBLIC HEARING ONLY, CERTAINLY WE COULD POST, UM, OR I GUESS LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN CONTINUE, I BELIEVE AGAIN, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH LEGAL ON THAT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION AND NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.
SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:12 PM IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THIS ONE OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT P AND Z SESSION.
SO IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE SOMETHING, CAN WE MAKE THAT DATE SPECIFIC TO THE JULY MEETING AND I CAN LOOK UP WHAT DATE? CUZ WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS ONE ON THE SIX 20 MEETING.
THAT ONE WOULD BE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ONLY.
SO LET'S DO THAT FOR FUN TIMES JULY 11TH.
AND WE CAN JUST TAPE OR YEAH, JUST KEEP IT OPEN ON, JUST WALK IT OPEN HERE IT AGAIN ON JULY 11TH.
SO JULY 11TH CORRECTION OVER THE NEXT P AND Z MEETING.
CAUSE WE MAY HAVE A SPECIAL CALL DOWN THE 20TH.
ALL RIGHT THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS 5.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE.
APPROVE THE PROPOSED IRONWOOD FINAL PLAT 117.552 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND SIX INDUSTRIAL LOTS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INNOVATION BOULEVARD AND US HIGHWAY 79.
YOU MAY RECALL YOU SAW THE PULMONARY PLAT JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AGAIN, UM, IT'S 46, UM, LOTS ON JUST OVER 117 ACRES.
THIS IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ALLIANCE AND 79 OR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INNOVATION IN 79.
UM, SO DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE ACADEMY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, UM, THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL STORAGE USES LIE TO THE NORTH.
UM, IT REALLY IS JUST SURROUNDED BY EITHER STREETS COMMERCIAL 79 AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, THERE'S EXISTING E T J UM, OR FORMER E T J PROPERTY THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND THE TRACK'S GONNA BE SERVED WITH, UH, CITY OF HUK AFTER EXTENSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
UM, THEY DID HAVE AN S E R REVISION, OR I'M SORRY, MUNICIPAL SERVICE AGREEMENT, UM, REVISION AT COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS AGO.
SO WE DO KNOW THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THEM.
UM, AND THERE IS AN EXISTING WASTEWATER LINE WITHIN INNOVATION.
DEVELOPER WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN EIGHT INCH PUBLIC SEWER EXTENSION AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SHOWN ON THE SCHEMATICS.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING SURROUNDING AND THE AERIAL.
THIS IS A VERY LARGE TRACK THAT HAS YET DEVELOPED AND THROUGH THE PROPERTY YOU'LL SEE THAT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT BISECTS THE PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY.
SO THERE WILL BE GOOD FLOW WITHOUT HAVING TO GET ACROSS THAT LARGE DRAINAGE AREA ALONG 79.
UM, SO THAT STREET, THE NEW STREET WILL ACTUALLY GO BETWEEN ALLIANCE ALL THE WAY TO INNOVATION.
THAT, UH, SO THERE'S TWO STREETS THAT ON INNOVATION, ONE AT THE SOUTH END AND ONE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.
THE ONE ON THE MIDDLE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, DRIVING BY THAT FREQUENTLY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR CONSTRUCTION AND UTILITY VEHICLES AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN IMPROVED ROAD.
SO WHAT SORT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL ARE WE GOING TO BE SEEING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ON INNOVATION? UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA AS FAR WELL DO YOU MEAN THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE OFFSITE TO THE WEST? UH, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ROAD GOING THROUGH MM-HMM.
ARE WE LOOKING AT, UH, GOING AFTER A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR IS IT SIMPLY A STOP SIGN LIKE THERE IS AT, UH, SCHNEIDER ONCE IT GOES TO INNOVATION, LIKELY IT WOULD JUST BE A STOP SIGN AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MEAN WARRANTS FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THAT IT'S GONNA BE A, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A FULL ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
UH, AND KINDA LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S GONNA CONNECT TO THE ACADEMY EVO Y M C A AREA, CORRECT? ON THE EAST SIDE? ON THE EAST SIDE TOWARDS ALLIANCE? YES.
SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE FAIRLY HEAVY TRAFFIC DURING BUSINESS HOURS OF ACADEMY AND EVO AND THE Y M C A ON THAT STREET POTENTIALLY.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE T I A SHOWED FOR ACADEMY.
THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE TO HAVING TO, UM, HAVE SOMEONE TRY TO GET ALL THE WAY TO 79 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE A LEFT.
UM, YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK UNDER
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ONE 30 MM-HMM.BUT I WOULD THINK MORE SO IT MIGHT BE LEAVING ACADEMY TO GO BACK EAST.
IF YOU DON'T GO DIRECTLY TO 79 RATHER THAN THE EAST WEST OR GOING, YOU HAVE TO.
CAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FROM THE EVO DISC EVO ACADEMY DISCUSSION ALLIANCE IS NOT GOING TO BE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO SOUTH ON ALLIANCE AND TURN EAST ON 79, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THIS, RATHER THAN GOING UP TO, UH, EMORY FARMS AND SNYDER, THIS WOULD BE THE WAY TO GET OVER TO INNOVATION, UP TO LIMMER, HOPEFULLY A LIGHT THERE AND THEN GO EASTBOUND.
THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE.
SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE FIRST IS THAT ALL EASEMENT CALL-OUTS WILL BE CLEARED UP, CLEARED UP TO REFLECT ACCURATELY WHAT THEY ARE POINTING AT PRIOR TO RECORDATION.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL USE A FEMA 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND THE ATLAS 1400 YEAR FLOOD PLANE TO REGULATE ALL DEVELOPMENT ON SITE, INCLUDING THAT RIPARIAN SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED.
THE PROJECT WILL DE DEDICATE THEIR HALF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG ALLIANCE BOULEVARD AND THE CONFLICTS BETWEEN P E SHOWN THE SCHEMATICS AND THE PUE LISTED IN THE GENERAL NOTES WILL BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO RECORDATION.
THE NOTE 28 WILL BE REVISED TO INDICATE THAT NO STRUCTURES OR FACILITIES WILL BE PLACED OVER CITY INFRASTRUCTURE EXCEPT WHERE A CROSSING IS NECESSARY AND NOTHING EXCEPT FOR GRASSY PLACED OVER CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THE LAST IS THAT THEIR DRAINAGE, UM, WILL BE CONSIDERED PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL DRAINAGE REPORT WILL BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BEFORE SITE PERMITS ARE ISSUED.
SO THESE ARE ALL JUST KIND OF CLEAN UP THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH MM-HMM.
SO NUMBER THREE MENTIONS THE RIGHT AWAY ALONG ALLIANCE.
YEAH, SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
UM, SO THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY ALONG ALLIANCE IS A VARIABLE WIDTH RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.
SO WHAT I'VE TALKED TO THEIR ENGINEER ABOUT IS BASICALLY GO FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE CURRENT ALLIANCE BOULEVARD AND GO, UM, TO THEIR SIDE.
THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY AS IT'S CURRENTLY DEFINED WOULD BE 70 FEET.
SO BASICALLY IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE MEASURING IT.
LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE PAVEMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 33 34 FEET FROM, UH, THERE'S NO CURB BUT CURB TO CURB.
IN SOME PLACES, OUR RIGHT OF WAY ALONG ALLIANCE RIGHT NOW IS 30 FEET.
AND, AND THEN I THINK IT GETS UP TO 35 FEET IN SOME SPOTS.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE BASICALLY ENABLING US TO DOUBLE THE WIDTH OF ALLIANCE.
AND IN SOME, IN SOME LOCATIONS, IN SOME, SOME WE WON'T GET QUITE TO, TO THE FULL BUT CLOSE.
UM, AND ARE THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING THROUGH THE T I A TO IMPROVEMENTS ON ALLIANCE OR ARE THEY NO.
THERE, THERE'S NEITHER, NEITHER OF THE TIAS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY WERE DONE AND THE TIMING AND ALL THAT, UH, SHOWED ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON ALLIANCE.
SO ALL OF THE, ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES WOULD HAVE TO BE THEN ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT, BUT, BUT THEIR TIA WOULD IMPACT THAT THROUGH STREET COMING OUT ON INNOVATION.
WHAT WERE THE TWO TIAS? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE SCOPE OF THEM? UM, SO ON IRONWOOD, THE SCOPE WAS TO LOOK AT BASICALLY, AND THIS WAS, THIS PREDATES ME.
SO, UM, I'M GOING FROM JUST QUICK GLANCES, BASICALLY THE BOUNDARY OF THEIR PROJECT.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A LOW INDUSTRIAL, UH, USER AND SO THEY DON'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC MM-HMM.
UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, WHICH WAS THE, UH, ACADEMY OH, OKAY.
SO THEY, THEY ROUTED THEIR TRAFFIC TO MULTIPLE WAYS OF GETTING OUT OF THAT AREA AROUND LOWE'S AND THE Y AND ALL THAT.
AND SO, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS, THERE'S NO LARGE IMPACTS TO ANY OF THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS.
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WELL, MAYBE THIS QUESTION, THIS QUESTION IS, UH, UH, FOR THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT, MS. BAILEY, UM, BACK KIND OF ON RICK'S QUESTIONS ABOUT, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S CALLED PARKER WAY COMING OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, ACADEMY LOWE'S GOING, UM, WESTBOUND ON PARKER WAY WAS ANY THAT WAS, UH, IT LOOKED AT AS FAR AS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THAT'S JUST TRYING TO GET OVER TO ONE 30 NORTHBOUND AND JUST ALE.IN OTHER WORDS, NOT TO TAKE A SHORTCUT AND NOT GET ON 79 AND TAKE THE PROPER ROUTE.
IS THERE ANY CONCERN OR ANY STUDIES DONE ON LOOKING AT WESTBOUND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ON WHAT I SEE AS PARKER WAY? I DUNNO IF THAT'S CORRECT.
I MEAN, CUZ IF YOU HAVE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES, THAT'S BETTER.
UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT PARKER WAY DOES LINE UP WITH THE EXISTING CUT THROUGH FOR LOWE'S, Y M C A, SO THOSE WILL MARRY UP OR ARE THEY GONNA BE OFFSET? I WOULD THINK THEY'RE OFF THOSE LINE UP.
IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY LINE UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.
I'M TRYING TO JUST THINK ABOUT THE ACADEMY SITE PLAN, BUT YEAH, THEY DO.
THEY PURPOSELY HAD 'EM LINE UP.
YEAH, THAT'S, I DON'T LIKE THAT
DO THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.
THAN TRYING TO DOG LEG A TRUCK AND A TRAILER THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT COMES OUT WHERE THE, UM, CONTRACTOR EGRESS IS ON THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LOWE'S THEN.
SO WE HAVE ALL THAT CONTRACTOR TRUCK TRAFFIC RIGHT AT THAT ANYWAY, SO MAYBE THAT'LL, I DON'T KNOW.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF CONGESTION.
I I AGREE THAT IT'S PROBABLY A SMALL, YOU KNOW, SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA DO THAT.
ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ON, UH, 5.3? OKAY.
THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.3.
MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SHORT FIGURE, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY.
AND NEXT IS ITEM 5.4 PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON THE 2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN REMOTELY.
WELCOME BACK, MATT
UH, MATT RECTOR, I'M YOUR CITY ENGINEER.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND ON THE C I P FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24TH OR 29.
UM, THE BUDGET CALENDAR THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY FINANCE AND APPROVED BY CITY MANAGEMENT AND CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T SHOW US ACTUALLY GIVING YOU THE C I P UNTIL THE END, TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH THAT THE JUNE, 2020, JUNE, 2023, UM, MEETING.
BUT AS YOU WILL SEE, THERE'S A LOT IN THIS C I P.
UM, AND SO I, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE MAYBE NOT SAT THROUGH ONE OF THESE TYPES OF MM-HMM.
CITY ENGINEER SHOWS UP, SAYS, HERE'S THE C I P P AND Z TALKS ABOUT IT.
AND THEN BASICALLY YOU'RE FORCED TO GIVE A RUBBER STAMP AND YOU REALLY DON'T GET ANY INPUT.
AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT AND ACTUALLY GIVE YOU GUYS THE ABILITY TO HAVE INPUT, WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS TO BASICALLY CHEW ON IT AND LOOK AT IT, COME UP WITH, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS PROJECT? WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WHY IS THIS WATER LINE IN HERE? WHY IS THIS WASTEWATER LINE IN HERE INSTEAD OF THIS ROAD OVER HERE? AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT, UM, WE'RE HEAVY ON WATER, WE'RE HEAVY ON WASTEWATER, AND WE'RE LIGHT ON STREETS.
AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
THE REASON IS, IN 2022, THE CITY APPROVED A WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.
IN 2022, THE CITY APPROVED A WATER MASTER PLAN.
AND SO I PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THOSE MASTER PLANS AND STARTED TRYING TO PROGRAM THOSE PROJECTS.
THE REASON WE'RE LIGHT ON STREETS IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOT UPDATED
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THEIR 2018 TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.AND LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN THAT MASTER PLAN, THERE IS NO RHYME OR REASON TO HOW I WOULD BEGIN TO PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS.
SO I PUT IN PROJECTS THAT I KNEW WERE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, AND THEN I PUT IN SOME PROJECTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY CITY COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGEMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT I DID NOT TRY TO PROGRAM AND PRIORITIZE THE FIVE PAGES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MOBILITY MASTER PLAN SINCE IT'S FIVE YEARS OLD.
AND MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN STARTED.
UM, SO MY THINKING IS, WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THE WATER, WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THE WASTEWATER.
YOU GUYS CAN LOOK THROUGH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER AND GO, OKAY, WELL I DON'T THINK THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED SO HIGH, BUT I KNOW THIS ROAD PROJECT OVER HERE DIDN'T GET PUT IN AND IT PROBABLY DOES NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED.
SO THEN WE CAN SWITCH THOSE AROUND BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO A QUESTION ON THE, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER PRIORIT PRIORITIZATION.
UM, DO YOU INCLUDE ANY NOTES ON THERE AS FAR AS THE TCE Q REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN AT COUNCIL AND DURING THE DELIVERY OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS? SO I DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM IN THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AND AMOUNT OF STORAGE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO LIKE THIS, THIS PROJECT IS NEEDED TO MEET THE T C Q REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING OR PROJECTING FOR 2024 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO NO, I I DID NOT INCLUDE THOSE.
AND YOU'LL SEE WHY ONCE I START GOING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I'VE WORKED WITH ASHLEY AND WE ARE GONNA GET YOU GUYS THE PACKET BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT.
SO IT'LL BE IN YOUR INBOXES BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT SO THAT YOU CAN START.
I KNOW HOW EXCITED EVERYBODY IS TO GO HOME AND DESIGN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO AFTER, AFTER WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE SLIDES, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND STAY UP ALL NIGHT WORKING THROUGH, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW EXCITED EVERYBODY IS.
SO, AND COMMISSIONERS, I DID VERIFY CUZ I SENT IT TO MYSELF AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU ALL HAVE IT AT YOUR, UM, IN FOX.
ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE IT.
IT'S A LINK TO IT BECAUSE IT IS SEVEN MEGABYTES,
I THOUGHT THERE'S NO JUDGMENT.
AGAIN, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY I, HERE HERE JUST A SECOND.
SO, UH, HERE'S A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW AND IT IS REALLY LITTLE.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN, IT'S NOT BAD ON OUR SCREEN
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN.
WE HAVE 72 PROJECTS ALREADY PUT INTO THE C I P FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PROGRAM TOTAL, UM, IS JUST UNDER 700 MILLION.
UM, LOOKING AT JUST FY 24, YOU'RE TALKING JUST OVER 300 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE TABLE, YOU'LL SEE WHEN I SAID THAT I DIDN'T GO AS HEAVY ON TRANSPORTATION AS I DID, LIKE WATER AND WASTEWATER.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, WATER GOES ALL THE WAY OUT INTO 27.
AND THE ONLY REASON IT STOPS THERE IS BECAUSE THAT WAS ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN.
SO INSTEAD OF PROGRAMMING THEM OUT OVER 25 YEARS, I, I COMPRESSED IT.
UM, WASTEWATER GOES OUT THROUGH 2028.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN FIT IN INTO THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
UH, PARKS, THE PARKS DIRECTOR IS HERE AND SO HE, HE CAN HELP FILL IN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE PARKS PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE THE FULL FIVE YEARS THERE FACILITIES, WE'VE GOT THAT SPREAD OUT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, OR SORRY, THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THINGS HAVE, HAVE PLAYED OUT RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN REAL QUICK.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE WAY I PRIORITIZE THESE, UM, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST IN THE VERY RECENT PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS THAT WERE IN PROGRESS BUT THEY DIDN'T GET CARRIED OVER INTO THE C I P, THEY HAVE TO BE CARRIED OVER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE BUDGET FOR THEM.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE LIKE THIS FM 1660 AT LIER, THAT IS IN THE 2023 C I P.
SO YOU'LL SEE, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS PROJECT NUMBER, I'VE ASSIGNED A PROJECT NUMBER TO IT MM-HMM.
SO 2023 AND THEN T FOR TRANSPORTATION, W WHATEVER.
UM, AND THEN SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS 2023 TRANSPORTATION TWO.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND TRANSPORTATION PROJECT THAT WAS PUT IN THE 2023 C I P AND IT'S THE FIRST C I P PROJECT IN 2024.
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SO WILL IT BE RENUMBERED FOR THE NEW BUDGET OR IS IT DOING TWO? NO, NO.I PLAN TO KEEP THESE PROJECT NUMBERS MOVING FORWARD.
UNTIL THE PROJECT IS DEAD AND GONE.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA, I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF AN, AN OVERVIEW ON THESE FIRST COUPLE SLIDES SO YOU CAN KIND OF READ THROUGH THEM ON YOUR OWN.
AND THEN I'M GONNA SPEED THINGS UP AND TRY TO GET YOU THROUGH
UM, AND SO, UH, REAL QUICK, IN CASE YOU GUYS WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO A NEW PROGRAM CALLED CLEAR GOV MM-HMM.
AND SO ALL OF THIS DATA HAS BEEN ENTERED INTO CLEAR GOV.
AND THEN THE GOAL IS AT SOME POINT CLEAR GOV WILL LINK UP WITH OUR BUDGETING SOFTWARE AND IT'LL LINK UP WITH OUR WEBSITE.
AND SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN TO OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK STRAIGHT INTO CLEAR GOV.
AND ALL OF OUR C I P WILL BE THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT AND SEE THE STATUS OF ALL THESE PROJECTS.
AND SO ALL OF THIS IS PULLED STRAIGHT OUT OF THERE SO YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF START GETTING A FEEL FOR WHAT CLEAR GLOVE LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE REQUESTER, WHICH IS ME, UM, THE ESTIMATED START DATE, ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE, THE DEPARTMENT WHICH IS ENGINEERING, UH, THE TYPE IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PROJECT NUMBER AND THEN I PUT IN A BRIEF LITTLE DESCRIPTION.
NOW KEEP IN MIND I PUT IN ALL 72 OF THESE PROJECTS, SO I DIDN'T WANNA WRITE A BOOK ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
UM, AND THEN A LITTLE SCREENSHOT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF PROJECT IS LISTED AS OTHER BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT GIVES YOU CATEGORIES, UM MM-HMM.
AND SO THEN THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST IS.
AND SO, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE WRAPPING UP DESIGN ON THIS ONE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS ONE IS ALL THAT THEY'RE COLOR CODED.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS ONE IS ALL CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE IDEA BEING THAT ALL OF NEXT YEAR AND, UH, YEAH, ALL OF NEXT YEAR, THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON JUST CONSTRUCTION.
SO NO DESIGN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT DESIGN SHOULD BE COMPLETE.
SO THIS ONE'S BASICALLY THE SAME.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A CARRYOVER.
UM, AGAIN, THAT ONE IS FULLY IN CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.
SO THIS ONE DOES SHOW YOU, AND I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT, SO LET ME GET TO ONE THAT I CAN TELL BETTER.
UH, CR 1 37, 16 60, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE.
UM, THIS IS A CARRYOVER FROM 2023.
SO IT'S BASICALLY FIXING THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE BY, BY THE SCHOOLS.
UM, SO, UM, THEN YOU HAVE LAKESIDE ESTATE SIDEWALKS, UH, WHICH IS, YOU STARTED THAT IN 2022.
WE'RE DOING PHASE TWO IN 2023.
WE'LL DO PHASE THREE IN 2024 UNTIL, UM, CITY COUNCIL HAD ALLOCATED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO UNTIL WE RUN OUTTA MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT, WE'LL JUST KEEP DOING THESE SIDEWALKS.
SO THIS ONE IS, THIS IS, WHOA, SORRY.
I WAS LIKE, HOW AM I DOING THAT? I'M NOT TOUCHING ANYTHING
I WAS GONNA TRY TO HAVE IT ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, I AM SO GOOD.
I'M CONTROLLING THIS WITH MY MIND.
I WENT FROM BEING ABLE TO CONTROL IT WITH MY MIND TO NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL ANYTHING.
SO, UH, SO THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU TO SEE IS THAT YOU CAN SEE IT'S COLOR CODED.
SO ON THIS ONE YOU SEE A LITTLE WEDGE OF GREEN MM-HMM
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA KEEP FLYING THROUGH THESE CUZ THESE ARE ALL 20, 23 PROJECTS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE BUTTON THAT ONE IS.
UH, THAT ONE IS IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
AND SO CARRYING OVER, IT'LL BE MORE IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION IS A HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THE GREEN GREEN LOOKS SO SMALL.
UM, UH, MEGASITE EASTWEST ROAD, THIS ONE WILL BE FULLY INTO CONSTRUCTION, UH, NEXT YEAR, ACTUALLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, SO, UM, LIVE OAK RECONSTRUCTION, WE'RE AWARE OF THAT ONE.
THAT ONE IS THEN DESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT BEING FULLY INTO CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.
UM, THE EDGE SCHMIDT IMPROVEMENTS, SO THAT ONE IS BEING STUDIED RIGHT NOW.
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STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH DESIGN MM-HMM.AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS ON THIS ONE.
UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 1.5, 1.6 MILLION FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THAT'S JUST A ROUGH PLACEHOLDER AT THIS POINT CUZ WE'RE STUDYING IT.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE STUDY GONNA TELL US.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE EMORY FARMS ARCHWAY.
SO THAT'S THE UM, ONE, SOME PEOPLE REFER TO IT AS THE CAN OPENER PROJECT CUZ AT ONE POINT IT WAS DISCUSSED OF DOING A A CAN OPENER TO STOP THE TRUCKS FROM GOING THROUGH THERE.
AND SO, UH, CONCEPTS ARE DONE.
SO THAT ONE WILL BE FULLY INTO DESIGN.
AND SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE HAS EVEN MORE OF A BREAKDOWN.
SO YOU HAVE DESIGN, WE'VE GOT SOME CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN THERE CUZ WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MIGHT COME UP.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION, UH, UM, AND THEN NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO 2024.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE MY NUMBER ONE, MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
THIS IS NOT, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOURS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CITY COUNCILS, BUT MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE FOR 2024 IS TO UPDATE THAT MOBILITY MASTER PLAN AND THEN FOLLOW THAT IMMEDIATELY WITH AN UPDATE TO THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE.
UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY HIGH PRIORITY BECAUSE I THINK, UM, I THINK WE NEED THAT.
THE MASTER PLAN HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN ALMOST FIVE YEARS, SO IT'S TIME.
AND SO AS SOON AS YOU UPDATE THE MASTER PLANS, YOU SHOULD UPDATE THE IMPACT FEES.
AND YOU'LL SEE, UH, SO HERE'S ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
UM, AND SO THIS IS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT INNOVATION IN LIMBER LOOP.
AND SO, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S THINKING THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A SIGNAL, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT AN ESTIMATE IN, WE'VE GOT A PLACEHOLDER BASICALLY OF 2 MILLION, UH, TO START DOING DESIGN ANALYSIS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THEN LEAD ON INTO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THESE ARE BEST GUESS NUMBERS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN IS SO OLD THAT ANYTHING I PUT IN THERE WOULD BE WRONG BASED ON THE ECONOMY MM-HMM.
AND SO I'M JUST TAKING SCIENTIFIC GUESSES ON WHAT I THINK THE COST WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT I THINK WILL END UP HAPPENING THERE.
UH, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
AND SO THIS IS THE EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AT LIER LOOP INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THIS IS ONE WHERE PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT WE NEED A, A SIGNAL RIGHT THERE AT EXCHANGE AND, UH, LIER, UH, THAT'S ALSO RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, UH, GOT A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL ADD, I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN, IN THE ANALYSIS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING FUNDED BY, FUNDED BY BONDS, UM, I BELIEVE, AND WE'VE, WE'VE GOT REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALLOCATED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THEY'VE SET ASIDE TO HELP PAY FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN HERE AS BEING BOND FUNDED, THERE WOULD BE SOME REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT A CROSSWALK, UH, RIGHT THERE AT EXCHANGE IN LIMBER.
AND I WAS WONDERING, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY WITH OTHER PROJECTS, IS THERE A SAFE WALK TO SCHOOL GRANT THAT WE COULD BE PURSUING FOR THIS ONE? OR IS THAT GONE? I DON'T KNOW.
I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE DID THAT WITH THE SIDEWALKS ALONG 1660 MM-HMM.
THAT WAS PART OF THE SAFE WALK TO SCHOOL GRANT.
AND I, I WANNA SAY THEY MATCHED 500,000 OF IT.
WE CAN, WE CAN CHECK INTO THAT.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I JUST PUT EVERYTHING IN AS BOND FUND BECAUSE THAT'S WORST CASE SCENARIO IS THE CITY HAS TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
UH, SO THE NEXT ONE IS JUST BASICALLY FIXING EXCHANGE BOULEVARD IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED IT'S GETTING KIND OF ROUGH.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, JUST KIND OF COMING UP WITH A BALLPARK TO FIX THAT ONE, REPAVE IT, AND IT PROBABLY MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA DO IT MILLING OVERLAY, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE RECONSTRUCTION.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GOT A PLACE ORDER IN THERE ABOUT 4 MILLION TO DO DESIGN AND, AND CONSTRUCTION IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE
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THE DEVELOPER? I THOUGHT THEY MADE A PROMISE.UH, THE ONE DOING THE PARKING GARAGE, THE RESURFACE EXCHANGE.
ARE YOU THE I'M NOT AWARE THAT A TRUE STATEMENT.
ASHLEY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? THE DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING THE PARKING GARAGE AND THAT'S THE 270 DAYS AT THAT.
PART OF THE THINGS THEY CO-OP AS INCENTIVE FOR THE CO-OP WAS THE, UM, DUE RESURFACING OF EXCHANGE.
I, I THINK THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT, BUT A LOT.
I DON'T THINK THAT EXCHANGE CAN JUST BE RESURFACED.
I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL ENGINEERING ACCOUNT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO SOME FUN.
YOU MIGHT WANNA JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO THROW IN SOME MONEY ON THAT.
I THINK THEY'RE THROWING IN MONEY BUT NOT DOING, BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT EXACTLY, THEY WERE LOOKING AT EVEN PUTTING IN SOME ON STREET PARKING.
DON'T TELL ME HE HATES ON STREET.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN, AT LEAST BACK WHEN IT WAS FLICKS, IS THEY WERE GONNA HAVE SOME ANGLED PARKING MORE SO BECAUSE EXCHANGE IS JUST SO WIDE AND IT LIKELY DOESN'T NEED TO BE MM-HMM.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK ON THAT ONE.
UM, AND THEN THIS ONE CAME FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, REQUESTING THAT WE DO RECONSTRUCTION ON FRONT STREET.
THIS IS PART OF THE PAVEMENT CONDITION ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY JUST DID AND THIS ONE SHOWED TO, UM, NEED SOME TOUCH UP.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AND IT'S BASICALLY, UH, FROM CARL STERN TO LONE STAR IS THE, THE LIMITS OF THE, THE PROJECT.
SO IT FROM LONE STAR TO LET'S SAY, UH, JIM CAGE WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROJECT THEN? YES.
AND SO THIS NUMBER ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE PAVEMENT CONDITION, UH, REPORT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A BIG DROP IN NUMBERS BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME REAL DATA TO BACK THIS ONE UP.
UM, AND SO THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, FIXING THE LIMBER LOOP AND THE HAY BARN INTERSECTION.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WHY THIS ONE IS IN HERE.
IT CAME UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IS THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROJECT COMING, UM, AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY COMPLY WITH THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN TO REALIGN HAY BARN SO THAT IT LINES UP WITH, UM, LEMON LEMONS.
AND SO THAT WOULD BASICALLY CREATE A, A TRUE FOUR-LEGGED INTERSECTION.
AND SO ONCE YOU DO THAT, THEN THERE'S OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN THAT WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR.
AND SO TRYING TO BE SOMEWHAT STRATEGIC, I MADE SURE THAT THIS ONE WAS INCLUDED IN HERE IN CASE THE CITY NEEDED TO HELP MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THEN CR 1 63 RECONSTRUCTION.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, CR 1 63 IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BROOKLYNS AND, UH, FARLEY AND RAY ELEMENTARY AND ALL THAT.
IT IS AN OLD COUNTY ROAD THAT'S NEVER BEEN PAVED.
UM, WHEN THE BROOKLYNS CAME IN, WE ANNEXED THE MAJORITY OF THE ROAD AND THEN WE HAVE A DEVELOPER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT, UM, AT ONE POINT STAFF WAS SAYING, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS ROAD.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOW DO WE FIX HALF OF A ROAD? AND SO, UM, THE REASON THAT THIS ONE IS IN HERE IS BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT ULTIMATELY CAME OUT OF ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS IS YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD HALF OF A ROAD AND THEN EXPECT SOMEBODY ELSE TO MIRACULOUSLY BUILD HALF OF A ROAD.
WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A COST ESTIMATE FOR WHAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO BUILD FOR YOUR HALF AND YOU'RE GONNA GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE CITY.
AND THEN BEING STRATEGIC AGAIN, THE CITY WOULD PUT THIS PROJECT IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN THEY GIVE US THEIR HALF OF THE MONEY, WE TAKE OUR HALF OF THE MONEY AND WE GO FIX THE ROAD SO THAT IT'S AN ACTUAL PAVED CITY ROAD.
AND AM I CORRECT IF I HAVEN'T DRIVEN 1 63? I DON'T HAVE A FOUR BY FOUR VEHICLE, UM,
IT ALSO SERVES AS, UM, A EMERGENCY AC ACCESS BACK TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE AMPHITHEATER, AND IT'S ALSO THE MAIN ACCESS FOR THE, UM, SHILOH CEMETERY.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF CR 1 99.
THIS, THE, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS IN THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.
IT'S ALSO A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT
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WITH THE COTTONWOOD CREEK DEVELOPMENT AND THE, UM, CROSS, WHAT IS IT CALLED? CROSS CREEK COTTONWOOD COTTON.I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH IANA AS WELL.
AND SO IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT, BUT N LIKE IT'S NEVER ACTUALLY GAINED ANY TRACTION.
AND SO I WAS LIKE, WELL, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE IT IN HERE AND SEE IF IT MAKES THE CUT MM-HMM.
AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR TRANSPORTATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE PRETTY LIGHT, ESPECIALLY AS WE START GETTING INTO WATER AND WASTEWATER.
YOU'LL SEE HOW HEAVY WE ARE THERE.
UM, WHEN I SAY WE'RE LIGHT, IT'S RELATIVELY SPEAKING BECAUSE IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, 76 MILLION IN UM, 24, BUT ISN'T A HUGE PART OF THAT, THE BRIDGE.
BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
ALL RIGHT, SO THEN WE GET INTO WATER.
UH, FIRST ONE IS, UH, CONTINUING THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH SHILOH AND NOAH PUMP STATIONS.
THAT'S TO EXPAND THOSE PUMP STATIONS SO WE CAN BOOST THE WATER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THOSE OF YOU DON'T, DON'T KNOW, TALKED ABOUT THURSDAY, WASN'T IT? YES.
SO ON THE SHILOH SITE, WE ARE TRYING TO EXPAND THE PUMP STATION THAT WE HAVE THERE AND THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, UM, ON, ON LAND.
THAT PART OF IT IS ON LAND THAT WE, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY OWN.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING TEAM AND THE CONTRACTOR TO FIX ALL THAT.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LANDOWNER TO ACTUALLY ACQUIRE THE LAND.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THAT.
BUT THE PROJECT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING WORKING, UM, WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY RULES OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T OWN YOUR LAND, BUT I'M GONNA BUILD ON IT.
UM, SO THAT'S A 2023 PROJECT THAT'S A CARRYOVER.
UH, THE FRAME SWITCH, UH, GROUND STORAGE TANK NUMBER TWO, THAT'S IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS A 2023 PROJECT THAT'S A CARRYOVER, THE NORTHWEST TRANSMISSION LINE, IT'S ALSO SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE HU JONAH INTERCONNECT LINE.
UH, THAT ONE IS ALREADY IN DESIGN.
UH, SO WE SHOULD WRAP UP DESIGN THIS YEAR AND BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION BY LIKE OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.
THE MEGASITE WATER LINES IS A 2023 CARRYOVER.
THAT ONE WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR, UH, THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT ONE YET BECAUSE WE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT ONE IS TO CREATE A CONNECT WHEN WE HAVE A NEW WATER SUPPLIER.
WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER SUPPLIER YET, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE CONNECTING TO.
SO THAT ONE IS JUST SITTING OUT THERE WAITING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
THEN YOU HAVE THE FM 16 60 16 AND 20 INCH WATER LINES.
UH, SO THIS IS A 2023 CARRYOVER, BUT THIS IS IN COOPERATION WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO REALLY THIS IS JUST A COST PARTICIPATION ON IT'S PART OF THE CITY TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR BUILDING PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OUT FOR US NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
SO THIS DOES GET A LITTLE BIT TO SOME OF THE TCEQ STUFF THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY, SO THIS IS A 2023 CARRYOVER KIND OF, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS JUST DO A PRELIMINARY SITE STUDY SO THAT AS ASHLEY AND I ARE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS AND WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF AND THE EDC AND EVERYBODY ELSE, AND WE START FINDING ALL THESE LAND PIECES WHERE IT WOULD BE AN IDEAL PLACE FOR ANOTHER ELEVATED TANK THAT WE CAN START TRYING TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THAT TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE CITY HAVING TO GO BUY LAND FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE START THE 2024 PROJECT.
SO JUST LIKE I PRIORITIZED MOBILITY MASTER PLAN AND IMPACT FEES AS MY NUMBER ONE IN TRANSPORTATION, I'M SAYING THAT OUR NUMBER ONE FOR WATER IS TO UPDATE OUR IMPACT FEES.
JUST MY THINKING BECAUSE WE'VE UPDATED THE MASTER PLANS, THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IS TO UPDATE THE IMPACT FEES TO HELP PAY FOR ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT I'M SAYING WE NEED TO GO BUILD.
UM, AND SO THEN WE GET INTO THE, THE ACTUAL CONTINUING AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GEEK OUT, YOU CAN GO LOOK AT THE WATER MASTER PLAN THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND THAT SCREENSHOT THAT YOU SEE THERE IS PULLED STRAIGHT FROM THE WATER MASTER PLAN.
SO I'M, I'M LITERALLY PULLING THIS STUFF STRAIGHT OUT OF, OUT OF THE BOOK.
UM, AND SO THIS IS A, UM, 24 AND 30 INCH WATER LINE, UH, TO UH,
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BASICALLY EXTEND FROM, SO WE HAVE THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE HAVE THE MEGA SITE LINES THAT ARE BEING DESIGNED MM-HMM.THIS PROJECT BASICALLY PICKS THOSE LINES UP AND RUNS THEM SOUTH.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MEGASITE WATERLINE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS, UM, SO THE CURRENT MEGASITE PHASE ONE PROJECTS ARE ALONG 33 49.
THEY'RE ALONG 79 AND THEY'RE ALONG 1 32.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF OUTER EDGE OF THE MEGASITE.
THIS PROJECT IS TO START PUTTING STUFF IN THE MIDDLE.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FM 1660 SOUTH WATER LINES.
SO, UM, THESE BASICALLY WOULD PICK UP FROM THAT PROJECT THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER WHERE THE DEVELOPER'S BUILDING PART OF IT, IT PICKS IT UP AND CONTINUES OUR WATER LINE TOWARDS THE EAST, THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, AND THEN THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS, IS LOOKING INTO.
SO ONCE WE GET SHILOH AND FRAME SWITCH ONLINE OR SHILOH AND NOAC ONLINE, THE PURPOSE OF THEM IS TO BOOST THE PRESSURE SO THAT WE CAN PUSH THE WATER, PUSH MORE WATER TO THE CITY FASTER.
THERE'S SOME CONCERN THERE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE PIPE.
AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS TRY TO BE PROACTIVE AND GO OUT AND TEST THAT PIPE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN HANDLE ALL OF THE EXTRA PRESSURE THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT INTO IT.
CUZ WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS PUT A BUNCH OF EXTRA PRESSURE INTO THAT PIPE AND HAVE IT START POPPING OUT OF THE GROUND.
AND SO THE, THE SMART BALL GOES THROUGH AND IT LOOKS FOR, YOU KNOW, PLACES WHERE WATER, WATER BUBBLES ARE HAPPENING CUZ WATER BUBBLES IN PIPES IS A BAD THING.
UH, IT ALSO LOOKS AT WHERE PIPE MATERIALS SWITCH BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THE WAY WHEN WE BOUGHT THE SYSTEM FROM H O T, WHAT WE, THE INFORMATION WE GOT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MATCH WHAT WAS PUT IN THE GROUND.
AND SO THE SMART BULK WOULD CONFIRM THAT STUFF FOR US.
AND THEN THE PRESSURE TESTING IS TO GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY TEST THE PIPES TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN HOLD UP THE PRESSURE.
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS TO LOOK AT ADDING IN SOME IRON REMOVAL FR TO SHILOH AND FRAME SWITCH.
AND THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD IT, BUT I, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT SOME OF THE BROWN COLOR IN THEIR WATER.
UM, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH IRON IN THE WATER THAT IT CREATES A, A RUST COLOR.
AND SO REMOVING THAT IRON WOULD THEN THEORETICALLY REMOVE THAT RUST COLOR AND MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL BETTER ABOUT DRINKING CLEAR WATER INSTEAD OF BROWNISH COLORED WATER.
AND WOULDN'T THAT ALSO REDUCE TO SOME EXTENT THE MINERAL DEPOSITS COMING THROUGH? YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BETTER FOR YOUR HOME PIPES.
SO NOTHING GLAMOROUS, IT'S JUST LIKE DOING OUR DUE DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OIL CHANGE.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING A, A FULL HYDROSTATIC TESTING ON THOSE LINES? YES.
AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO DO THAT IN LIKE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MM-HMM.
WHEN, WHEN WE ACTUALLY NEED FULL FLOW THROUGH THOSE LINES BECAUSE THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IMPACT FLOW A LITTLE BIT AND IT DOESN'T HURT US AS MUCH.
UH, SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE HIGHWAY 79 WESTERN WATER LINE CROSSING.
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT THE MEGASITE WATER LINE THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79.
WELL, WE'VE GOT STUFF ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 79 TOO AND 79 AND THE RAILROAD ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE IMPEDIMENTS.
AND SO THIS BASICALLY GETS US ACROSS.
UM, AND THEN CARL STERN WATERLINE REPLACEMENT.
SO THIS GOES FROM THE, THE CARL STERN TOWER TO I BELIEVE ABOUT THE CREEK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT MAP, SO I'M GOING COMPLETELY OFF MEMORY.
UM, AND BASICALLY THE IDEA IS THAT WE NEED TO EX EX EXPAND THE PIPE.
WE NEED TO REPLACE THE PIPE THAT'S THERE WITH A LARGER PIPE TO IMPROVE THE PRESSURE AND IMPROVE THE VOLUME OF FLOW THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT PART OF THE CITY.
AND THAT'LL INCREASE FLOW TO LEGENDS AND, UH, CREEK BAND, CREEK BAND AND THOSE AREAS.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, FRAME SWITCH GROUND STORAGE TANK NUMBER THREE.
SO AS WE GET MORE AND MORE DEMAND, WE NEED MORE AND MORE STORAGE TO MEET THOSE TCEQ REQUIREMENTS.
HUDDLE'S NOT SLOWING DOWN IN ITS GROWTH.
AND SO AS MORE AND MORE CONNECTIONS COME ONLINE, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE STORAGE.
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OF OUR WATER COMES IN AT FRAME SWITCH IT MA AND WE'VE GOT LAND THERE, IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A THIRD TANK, UH, THERE TO HOLD THE EXTRA WATER COUNTY ROAD 1 32 WATER LINE NORTH.UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING THE COUNTY ROAD 1 32 PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE GOT PROJECTS HAPPENING ALL UP AND DOWN THAT STRETCH OF ROAD.
AND SO, UM, TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS WAS IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN TO PUT A, PUT A NEW WATER LINE ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ROAD, UM, A NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AT CARL STERN.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE ONE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT WE STARTED THE PROCESS IN, UH, 2023 STUDYING THAT ONE.
WE'RE THINKING THAT ONE MOST LIKELY WILL END UP BEING, UH, WE'RE CALLING IT COTTONWOOD AREA, BUT UM, THAT'S JUST THE FIRST WE, BASED ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN, WE NEED AT LEAST THREE NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS.
SO, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE, I THINK THIS ONE IS, I'VE GOT IT SCHEDULED FOR 2026 IF I CAN SEE THAT CORRECTLY.
AND SO WE DO THE FIRST ONE, COTTONWOOD STARTING 20 23, 20 24, GET THAT ONE GOING, GET IT UP AND RUNNING.
AND THEN WE DO THE NEW CARL STERN, UM, IN 2026.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT INCLUDES THE DECOMMISSIONING AND REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING CARL STERN TOWER.
SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD GET THAT ONE DOWN AND PUT A BIGGER ONE UP IN ITS PLACE, OR A VERY CLOSE WAY MAY, MAYBE I'M MISREMEMBERING WAS FRAME SWITCH A T OR AN E S T FRAME SWITCH WAS A G S T.
MY, MY, I ALWAYS FORGET THAT I'M DOING ENGINEERING AND ENGINEERING VERNACULAR.
SO JUST, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR.
G S T GROUND STORAGE TANK, E S T, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LIMBER LOOP ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD THAT THE WATER PLAN SAYS WE NEED TO ADD.
AND SO THIS ONE WOULD BE UP IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF TOWN UP OFF OF 1 32 LIER LOOP AREA.
ROUGHLY 1 32 OR 1 37, 1 32? NO.
CAUSE 1 37 DOESN'T GO UP THERE.
I WAS GONNA SAY HOW IT'S, OKAY, HOW'S THAT WORKING?
LOOK AT THE MAP, NOT UP THE TEXT.
UH, OKAY, SO THAT'S THE WATER PROJECTS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH NOTHING SCHEDULED IN 28 RIGHT NOW.
SO NOTHING GLAMOROUS, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO THIS IS THE GLENWOOD LIFT STATION.
TECHNICALLY THAT'S, I I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THAT TITLE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE PROJECTS IN THIS ONE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S THE CENTRAL LIFT STATION TO UPGRADE THE LIFT STATION AT THE CENTRAL PLANT.
THERE'S A LIFT STATION AT THE SOUTH PLANT, AND THEN THERE'S THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR, WHICH GOES BETWEEN THE TWO, BASICALLY MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT'S A CARRYOVER FROM 2023.
IT IS IN DESIGN, IT SHOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION, UM, BY EITHER LATE THIS CALENDAR YEAR OR EARLY NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.
THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT UV SYSTEM UPGRADES.
THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO IT, IT SHOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION AND BE WRAPPED UP BY EARLY 2024.
UH, SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT FINAL DESIGN, WE JUST AWARDED THIS LIKE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO.
UH, SO THEY WILL BE WRAPPING UP DESIGN I BELIEVE IN FEBRUARY OF 24.
AND WE WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN 24.
UM, AND SO THAT GETS YOU TO THE SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT CONSTRUCTION.
UM, NOW JUST PREPARE YOURSELF, THIS IS A BIG NUMBER.
30 PER, AND THE 30% ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT HAS GONE UP SINCE WE DID THIS SLIDE.
SO AGAIN, NOTHING GLAMOROUS BUT IT'S ALSO NOT CHEAP.
AND IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN T C E Q IS, WELL, IF
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WE DON'T DO IT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO KEEP SERVING ALL THE GROWTH, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO STOP GROWING.UM, MEGASITE WASTEWATER LINES, THIS ONE'S ALREADY IN PROJECT, IN PROCESS.
UH, IT'S, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE I PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, I THINK LAST MEETING THAT, UH, HAD BEEN DELAYED BY SEVERAL MONTHS BECAUSE OF RIGHTS OF ENTRY.
WE NOW HAVE RIGHTS OF ENTRY RESOLVED, AND SO WE'RE UP AND MOVING.
UH, MEGASITE WASTEWATER PHASE TWO.
SO THIS ONE HASN'T STARTED YET BECAUSE PHASE ONE IS DELAYED
UH, BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE THREE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE SIMILAR TO THAT 1660 PROJECT WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE BUILT BY A DEVELOPER, BUT THIS IS A COST PARTICIPATION BY THE CITY.
AND THEN, UH, YOU GET THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR.
THAT'S THE, UH, QUASI TAYLOR QUASI COUNTY, QUASI CITY.
IT'S A REGIONAL PROJECT THAT THE CITY'S DOING THAT'S IN TO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND TAYLOR TO CREATE A REGIONAL, UH, SOLUTION.
AND THERE'S ARPA MONEY AVAILABLE FOR IT.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING MONEY FROM TAYLOR AND THE COUNTY ONCE WE FIGURE OUT CAPACITIES AND NEEDS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
SO THE COUNTY HAS ARPA MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BOTH HUK AND TO TAYLOR.
AND I BELIEVE THE WAY THE AGREEMENT WORKED OUT WAS IF TAYLOR, IF HUK WILL BUILD THIS LINE AND LET TAYLOR DRAIN INTO IT, THAT THE COUNTY WILL GIVE HUK THEIR MONEY, BUT THEY WILL ALSO GIVE THEM TAYLOR'S MONEY.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE THE BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE FOUR.
SO THIS IS GETTING INTO 2024 PROJECTS, AND THERE IS A METHOD TO MY MADNESS.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT BRUSHY CREEK PHASE THREE IS BEING DONE BY THE DEVELOPER.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LINED UP TO DO BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR.
BUT HERE'S THE THING, IF WE DON'T DO BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR, WE CAN'T TAKE THE ENCLAVE LIFT STATION OFFLINE.
IF WE CAN'T TAKE THE ENCLAVE LIFT STATION ONLINE, THEN WE HAVE A PINCH POINT IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WOULD RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST AND SOUTHWEST SIDES OF HUK.
AND SO I'M PRIORITIZING THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE IT GETS US TO THE ENCLAVE, ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE ENCLAVE OFFLINE, AND THEN IT ALLOWS, YOU'LL SEE IT IN A, IN A, IN A FEW SLIDES YOU'LL, WHERE WE CAN REALLY OPEN UP THAT SOUTHWEST, NORTHWEST AND NORTH CENTRAL AREA FOR MORE GROWTH.
UM, THEN YOU HAVE THE LAKESIDE MUD FORCE MAIN AND LIFT STATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A COST PARTICIPATION THING BECAUSE YOU HAVE LAKESIDE MUD GOING IN.
THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING ON BUILDING SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO UPSIZE THINGS AND INCREASE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN FACILITATE MORE GROWTH.
AND SO THERE'S SOME COST PARTICIPATION THERE.
UM, SO I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT MAP THERE.
SO THIS IS WHERE THIS ONE STOPS.
ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS WHERE THAT BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR WOULD END ON ITS FAR WESTERN SIDE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE AVERY LAKE PHASE ONE TAKES IT FROM BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR UNDER ONE 30 AND THEN STARTS GOING NORTH PARALLEL TO ONE 30.
SO THAT OPENS UP THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HU FOR MORE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A DEVELOPER WORKING ON THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THIS COULD END UP BEING SOME SORT OF COST PARTICIPATION.
BUT I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THE FULL AMOUNT IN HERE JUST IN CASE.
THEN YOU HAVE THE, UH, IRONWOOD WASTEWATER LINE.
SO YOU GUYS JUST TALKED ABOUT THE IRONWOOD PLAT.
UM, THERE IS SOME, UH, UPSIZING BEING ASKED OF THEM TO DO.
AND SO THIS IS JUST ANTICIPATING THEM COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR US FOR COST PARTICIPATION.
UM, SO WE ARE EXPANDING THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLANT SAYS WE ALSO NEED TO EXPAND THE CENTRAL TREATMENT PLANT.
AND I'LL SAY THAT THAT'S A NO-BRAINER BECAUSE WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEEDED TO EXPAND THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND WE STILL HAVEN'T DONE IT.
UH, WE'VE FOUND WAYS TO WORK AROUND IT AND ROUTE MORE FLOW TO THE SOUTH, BUT THE CENTRAL IS BY ALL ACCOUNTS, PRETTY MUCH AT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE DON'T EXPAND IT, WE HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
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AND SO, BUT AGAIN, THIS ONE IS NOT CHEAP, THAT'S A 25 MILLION PROJECT.UM, THEN YOU HAVE THE MUSTANG CREEK LIFT STATION UPGRADE.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN AND A LOT THEM ARE COUNTING ON THIS LIFT STATION.
AT SOME POINT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PUT BIGGER PUMPS IN THERE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ANTICIPATING.
AND THERE COULD BE SOME, UH, PARTICIPATION FROM SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS, BUT JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER, I'VE GOT THIS ONE IN HERE IN CASE WE NEED TO PULL THE TRICK.
UH, SO THIS IS, UH, JUST BASICALLY PUTTING IN A, UM, SORRY.
ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER IN MY HEAD.
THIS IS JUST PUTTING IN A GRAVITY LINE.
I BELIEVE IT'S A 15 INCH GRAVITY.
IT'S A 15 INCH, 2,600 LINEAR FEET.
REMIND ME, WHERE'S THE KIRK TRACK? I'M TRYING TO PICTURE.
KIRK TRACK IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1660 SOUTH, JUST WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 34.
SO THIS WOULD TIE INTO, UH, THE BRUSHING CREEK CHASE FOUR MM-HMM.
SO THEN THIS PROBABLY WOULD BE SOME COST PARTICIPATION ON THE CITY TO UPSIZE FROM A DEVELOPER.
SO, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT MEADOWBROOK THAT WOULD ALSO TIE INTO THAT BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR.
UM, THEIR S E R INDICATES THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME UPSIZING.
AND SO THIS IS JUST COST PARTICIPATION TO HELP THEM COVER THOSE COSTS.
UM, ONCE WE GET THE, THE BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR IN LINE, WE CAN TAKE THE BROOKLYN'S LIFT STATION OFFLINE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE I KIND OF PRIORITIZE THESE BASED ON THE SEQUENCE THAT THEY NEED TO HAPPEN.
NONE OF THESE LIFT STATIONS OFFLINE UNTIL THIS INTERCEPTOR IS, IS CONSTRUCTED.
UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT'S RIGHT BY THE BROOKLYNS LIFT STATION.
WE'VE GOT THE FARLEY LIFT STATION.
SO HAVING THAT BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR ALLOWS THIS FARLEY TO COME OFFLINE.
AND THEN BRUSHY CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE FIVE, UM, I BELIEVE THIS ONE TAKES IT, UH, UP.
CAN YOU SEE THE MAP? I'M TRYING, IS THAT, IS THAT A LONG 1 34? YES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A LONG 1 34.
AND THAT'S AS FAR AS A, LET ME, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
YEAH, SO THIS IS JUST EXTENDING IT TO THAT SOUTH CENTRAL PART OF HUTTO TO GET GRAVITY.
AS MORE AND MORE GROWTH COMES INTO THAT AREA, WE'RE GONNA NEED GRAVITY SEWER THERE.
AND YOU'VE GOT CONTROL AGAIN, ASHLEY.
OH, WELL I'LL JUST START DOING YOURS.
NO, I DON'T EVEN HAVE CONTROL
SO IN THIS NICE PAUSE, COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, KEEP MENTIONING THAT THE COSTS ARE, ARE LARGE AND I ACTUALLY THINK THEY'RE UNDERSIZED.
WHAT TYPE OF, UH, ESCALATION ALLOWANCE ARE YOU FACTORING IN FOR EACH OF THESE YEARS? SO I ASSUMED 4% GROWTH FOR COSTS.
WELL, BUT I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT, IT'S BIGGER THAN WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY ASSUME.
SO I, I MEAN CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CONTINGENCY BUILT IN, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
BUT THE CONTINGENCY ONLY APPEARED TO BE ABOUT 7%.
SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, COVID HIT, WE WERE HITTING 20%.
WE ARE STILL TWO TO 3% A MONTH IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
HOW ARE WE FIGURING THAT WASTEWATER AND SEWERS AND EVERYTHING, LIKE THAT'S ONLY 3%.
CUZ I'M NOT SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW.
I'M SEEING THE NUMBERS BEING WOEFULLY UNDER.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 24, 25, 26, 27, THIS JUST APPEARS THAT WE SHOULD BE AT LEAST 30% HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU GOT SHOWN THERE.
AND SO, AND IT GETS INTO THE PARK STUFF BECAUSE I, I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS ON THE PARK SIDE AND THE BUILDING SIDE, AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WHAT WE'VE GOT PRESENTED IN THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT ACCURATE WITH WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS RIGHT NOW.
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I'LL PICK ON THE BASEBALL FIELDS.4.4 MILLION FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF BASEBALL FIELDS IS LOW.
ALMOST HALF AS MUCH AS I WOULD EXPECT.
UM, SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING FACILITIES ARE, BUT IT WAS AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THESE FACILITIES TOTAL OF $10 MILLION.
I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN BUILD A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION BUILDING RIGHT NOW AT A SCHOOL FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHERE THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM CUZ THEY DON'T SEEM TO REFLECT WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
YEAH, SO I CAN, I CAN LET JEFF ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM UPON THE PARKS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE NUMBERS CAME STRAIGHT OUT OF OUR MASTER PLAN.
AND SO, UM, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T, I MEAN WE CAN ESCALATE THEM EVEN MORE, BUT OKAY.
SO WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT RS MEANS WE'RE NOT GETTING INDUSTRY NUMBERS.
WE'RE TAKING THE MASTER PLAN'S BEEN DEVELOPED, BUT WE KNOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE, WERE GONE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A YEAR OLD, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S SIX MONTHS OLD, THINGS HAVE GONE DRASTICALLY CHANGED IN SIX MONTHS.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOU WOULD'VE EXPECTED 106 MILLION COME IN AT 180 MILLION.
YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT YOUR OTHER PROJECT THAT WAS AT 75, THAT'S UP TO A HUNDRED NOW.
YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY SEEING IT, AT LEAST WITH THAT PROJECT.
IT, IF WE GO ACROSS THE BOARD AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TYPE OF INFLATION, HOW IS THAT GONNA IMPACT THIS PLAN AND HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE REALIZED IF WE'RE GONNA BE BONDING IT AND WE'RE FIXED AT A BOND LEVEL, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THESE.
SO WE NEED TO, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT AND GET A WORSE CASE SCENARIO AND REALLY PUSH THAT THIS BOND HAS TO BE LARGER THAN IT IS TO BE ABLE TO, TO AFFORD THESE PROJECTS.
I CAN WORK, I CAN WORK WITH FINANCE AND COME UP WITH UH, UH, THEIR BEST GUESS ON, ON WHAT WE SHOULD USE FOR AN INFLATION RATE AND THEN RUN THOSE NUMBERS.
I MEAN, CUZ LIKE THE 75 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S AT A HUNDRED THAT'S DRIVEN BY ESCALATION OR DESIGN CHANGES.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHICH PROJECT THAT WAS.
I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ONE 50 THAT WENT UP TO 180.
IS THAT HOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO THAT WAS, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SOUTHWEST WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE MOST PART BY CHANGES TO THE, TO THE DESIGN.
UH, SO IN THEIR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE ANY ABILITY, WELL THE, THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THIS PHASE THE ABILITY TO CONVERT WASTEWATER BACK TO UM, WATER.
ONCE WE CLEAN IT, WE'RE JUST DUMPING IT IN THE CREEK.
AND SO WHEN I CAME IN, THE FIRST THING I DID WAS I SAID, NO, WE'RE IN A WATER CONSTRAINED AREA.
THE FUTURE OF HUK MAY DEPEND ON WHAT WE DO WITH THIS PLANT RIGHT NOW.
AND SO LET'S LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO CLEAN THAT WATER UP AND AT LEAST GET IT INTO SOME SORT OF NON-POTABLE REUSE.
SO WE ADDED COST TO THE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN BASICALLY A, A WATER REC RECLAMATION PIECE OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, BUT THAT WE ALSO THEN ARE TRYING TO OFFSET THAT COST BY GOING OUT AND DOING A GRANT APPLICATION WITH THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION FOR THE FEASIBILITY AND ANALYSIS PORTION TO DO WATER RECLAMATION.
I JUST WOULD, WOULD CAUTION THAT THE NUMBERS TO ME APPEAR TO BE LOW AND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ESCALATION FACTORED IN ALONG WITH A, A LARGER CONTINGENCY.
UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE MARKET IS TRENDED.
AND WHILE IT DID SLOW DOWN FOR A BIT, IT HAS PICKED RIGHT BACK UP.
I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, WITH THEY DOING EVERYTHING ON I 35, THE PRICE OF CONCRETE LIKE TRIPLED.
UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THIS AREA THE MARKETPLACE DROP BACK DOWN.
AND SO I WOULD RATHER SEE EVERY YEAR THAT HEY, YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER, BUT WE ARE ALSO ADDING AN ESCALATION FACTOR OF 10 OR 15% TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY.
CUZ I'D HATE TO GET DOWN THE ROAD AND WE BOND ALL THIS AND THEN FIND OUT, WELL SORRY WE REALLY NEED THIS PIECE BUT WE CAN'T DO IT.
OR SORRY, PARKS AND REC, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING CAUSE WE GOTTA TAKE ALL THE MONEY TO FINISH, YOU KNOW, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN OR SOMETHING.
I I THINK THAT, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SPECIFICALLY BY THE ENGINEER THAT WAS DOING THE WASTEWATER PLANT, UM, UH, FOR THE UV THAT THAT SITE, UH, HE WAS SAYING THAT CUZ WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST SAN CONSTRUCTION FOLKS THAT ALL THAT LABOR HAS ALL GONE UP CUZ OF THE COMPETITION AND YEAH.
BUT SO, AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF US BRINGING THIS TO YOU GUYS EARLY INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING UNTIL THE END OF JUNE AND SAYING, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S THE C I P LET'S TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL IS WE GET THAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE THE OTHER, THE FLIP SIDE OF ALL OF THIS, AND THIS IS WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE TO HELP WEIGH THE BALANCE, IS IF WE ESCALATE THE NUMBERS TOO HIGH AND THEN THEY SAY, OKAY, WELL LET'S CUT THIS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
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THIS THING IS GONNA GET CUT.CUZ RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING $300 MILLION IN 2024.
I DON'T SEE A PATH WHERE THE CITY TRIES TO GO AND BOND FOR 300 MILLION IN 2024.
THE BIGGEST C I P I'VE EVER SEEN IN HUDA IS A HUNDRED MILLION.
AND THAT WAS INCLUDING, THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WE BOUGHT THE H O T SYSTEM MM-HMM.
AND SO, UM, TO GO FROM THAT TO DOING OUR FIRST C I P IN 2023 TO ASKING FOR 300 MILLION IN 2024, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
AND SO THE FLIP SIDE, WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO DO, WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE THIS OUT IS IF WE INFLATE THOSE NUMBERS TOO MUCH, THEN WE START CUTTING ALL THESE PROJECTS OUT AND THEN IF THE NUMBERS COME IN LOWER, THEN WE'VE GOT EXTRA MONEY BUT NO PROJECTS TO EXECUTE.
SO WOULD IT BE PRUDENT, SMART, WHATEVER TO GO AND LET'S SAY ASSIGN A 10% FOR THE 2024 PROJECTS AND THEN GO WAIT YES.
THEN GO WAY TOO HIGH ON THE 2020 FIVES AND 2020 SIXES, 2020 SEVENS, ET CETERA.
AND THEN AS WE GET TO THE END OF 2024, WE CAN BRING THOSE NUMBERS BACK DOWN INTO, OKAY, THIS IS PRETTY CLOSE TO ACTUAL AND MAKE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT FOR A BOND ISSUE FOR A 2026 PROJECT IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
SO WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS DOABLE OR IS THAT JUST WAY TOO LABOR INTENSIVE? NO, WE, WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST DO LIKE A, FOR LACK OF TERM, THE POINT ESCALATION BY YEAR? YEAH, YEAH.
SO LIKE A LOWER INTEREST RATE FOR 2024 AND THEN OVER ESCALATED ON 25, 26, 27, 28.
SO THAT WE GET A KIND OF A, UH, FIVE YEAR LOOK AT THIS AND IT, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THREE QUARTERS OF A BILLION DOLLARS.
BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO TRIM THAT DOWN AS WE GET CLOSER TO THOSE BUDGET YEARS.
I CAN TALK TO FINANCE AND WE CAN ADD IN SOME, ESCALATE SOME ADDITIONAL, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY THINKING OVER WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN.
IT'S GONNA BE A BILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY IN HUK, BUT I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THERE AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
YOU KNOW, AND THERE MAY BE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ONES, LIKE YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT MM-HMM.
UM, I'M JUST, YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THESE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL SOUND GREAT.
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING IS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR GROWTH IN THIS AREA ALONG WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA CONSTRAIN OURSELVES AND HAVE AN ISSUE.
UM, ALSO BEING, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE FORESIGHT TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THESE AREAS BECAUSE WE COULD SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS LAND BEING DEVELOPED IN ALL THESE HOUSES COMING IN OR ANOTHER SCHOOL BEING PUT IN THERE.
IT'S JUST THAT, UM, TO ME WE JUST HAVE TO BE AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE.
AND I'M COMING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, I KEEP WATCHING SCHOOLS THAT HAVE, WE GO WITH OUR BONDS AND WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING A YEAR LATER WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THEY'RE 25% MORE.
YOU KNOW, I, I JUST HAD A PROJECT BID AND IT'S BEEN LESS THAN A YEAR SINCE THE BOND.
YOU KNOW, AND SO IN CONSTRUCTION, I'M JUST SEEING THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP FASTER THAN ANYBODY'S EXPECTED.
YOU KNOW, WE HIT COVID, WE ARE EXPECTING 5% A MONTH, IT SLOWED DOWN, BUT WE'RE STILL SEEING IT.
AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IF WE DON'T PROJECT A LARGE NUMBER THAT WE'RE GONNA SHORTCUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CUT OUR FEET BASICALLY AND NOT HAVE THE MONEY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO THIS.
OR WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES BECAUSE WE ONLY PUT IN, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR 5% OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND WE'RE GONNA, OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A CHOICE.
WE EITHER PAY THIS AND NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD IT TILL THE NEXT YEAR OR, YOU KNOW, COME INTO SOME CRUCIAL ISSUES FOR THE, FOR OUR CITY.
SO YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT, THOSE ARE ALL VALID CONCERNS.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH A HIGHER ESCALATION FOR 20, 24 NUMBERS.
AND THEN I, I JUST WANT SOMETHING SHOWN I THINK IN THE PLAN OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PROJECTS AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASING IT OFF OF COST NOW, I'M ASSUMING WITH SOME COST, YOU KNOW, SOME CONTINGENCIES.
BUT IDENTIFYING, HEY, THIS IS THE ESCALATION.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE TAKEN THESE VALUES AND WE'VE APPLIED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FIVE TO 15% OR 10 TO 20%, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE VALUES GO UP.
BUT THIS IS AT LEAST THE RANGE THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, TO GIVE US AT LEAST A COMFORT LEVEL SO THAT WHEN CITY COUNCIL GETS IT OR YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE IN A HOT MARKET, IT'S NOT SLOWING DOWN.
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SHOULD BE 2 MILLION, BUT IT COULD BE UP TO THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SO THAT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.IS IT CUSTOMARY, UH, TO, TO, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE TO THREE YEARS OUT, UM, TO YOU DO A FAMILY OF CURVES OF INTEREST AND THEN KIND OF, WELL THAT BRACKET IT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT AS BEING LABOR INTENSIVE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE SEE THIS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN WITH 72 DIFFERENT PROJECTS IF WE'RE GOING WITH A FAMILY OF CURVES.
NO, TO ME IS I THINK THAT MIGHT BE TOO LABOR INTENSIVE AND YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE VALUE WHEN WE'RE APPLYING A FACTOR TO IT FOR ESCALATION AND CONTINGENCY AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRONT SPREADSHEET WHERE YOU WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND HAD ALL THE VALUES.
SOMETHING THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT MM-HMM.
KIND, KIND OF A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO WHO'S GOT CONTROL
AND SO, SO I MEAN YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THESE, SO WE DO HAVE IT KIND OF BROKEN DOWN IN SOME OF THESE.
SO THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE CAUSE IT'S GOT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN IT.
YOU CAN SEE DESIGN, YOU CAN SEE THE CONTINGENCY, YOU CAN SEE CONS, CONSTRUCTION OR MAINTENANCE, BUT IT'S REALLY CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF, ADMINISTRATION, THAT ONE SEEMS NEW.
UM, SO ON A LOT OF THESE WASTEWATER PROJECTS WE PUT ADMINISTRATION IN AS CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION CUZ UM, THE, SO THE WAY A LOT OF THE PROJECTS WERE HAPPENING BEFORE I GOT BACK WERE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A, AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT FOR DESIGN, BUT THEN IT ENDED WHEN YOU AWARDED THE PROJECT.
AND SO TYPICALLY WHAT I'M USED TO IS YOU WOULD HAVE AN ENGINEERING CONTRACT THAT TAKES YOU FROM BEGINNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO COMPLETION.
AND SO WHEN THEY BROKE THESE DOWN, THEY'VE GOT ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN THEY'VE GOT THE DESIGN SEPARATE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS YOUR ACTUAL CONTRACTOR.
I I I WAS JUST CONCERNED THAT MAYBE ADMINISTRATION WAS L C R A ADMINISTRATION.
I'M LIKE, WAIT, THAT HAPPENS AFTER WE'RE DONE
BUT, UM, SO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS YOU DO SEE A, A, A MORE IN DEPTH BREAKDOWN, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, ON THE SUMMARY SLIDE AND THEN BUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP IT AS WELL.
SO I SHOWED YOU AVERY LAKE PHASE ONE, THIS GOES FURTHER UP NORTH PAST 79.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOUTH FORK, MUSTANG CREEK INTERCEPTOR, UM, EMAIL FOR INTEREST OF TIME.
I'M JUST GONNA START TRYING TO FLY THROUGH THESE.
YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ALL SEEM VERY EXCITED ABOUT READING ALL THIS
I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE, UH, THE PARKS REX.
I CAN, I CAN, YEAH, I CAN FLY THROUGH HERE CUZ I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WASTEWATER STUFF.
UH, SO THERE'S AN SH ONE 30 LINE, UH, THERE'S COTTONWOOD CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE ONE, WHICH BASICALLY IS A PARALLEL LINE TO RUN UP AND DOWN COTTONWOOD CREEK TO ALLOW MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTER, CENTER PART OF TOWN.
UH, THE LANDING INTERCEPTOR ABOUT SEVEN, UM, AND MAYBE I'M YOUR OLD, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? AND SO THERE YOU GO.
THERE'S YOUR WASTEWATER SUMMARY.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE AS IT STOOD, WE WERE AT 155 MILLION FOR 24 AND TOTAL OF 364 MILLION FOR THE, FOR THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
MIGHT BE TO GO BACK REAL QUICK.
IT MIGHT BE THAT, UM, SO YOU'VE GOT 14% CONTINGENCY, WHICH WOULD COVER YOUR CONTINGENCY AND ESCALATION BASICALLY.
YEAH, TO ME I WOULD, I'D ADD ANOTHER LINE FOR ESCALATION JUST BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE UN THE FACTORS ARE UNKNOWN AND I DON'T THINK THAT CONTINGENCY WOULD COVER BOTH DESIGN CONTINGENCY, CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY AND ESCALATION.
WELL JUST SO YOU, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN PUT INTO THE SOFTWARE.
SO ANY ESCALATION WOULD PROBABLY STILL HAVE TO GO INTO THAT CONTINGENCY, BUT WE COULD JUST PUT A NOTE THAT WE CONTINGENCY AND ESCALATION.
AND SO, UM, I CAN LET JEFF COME UP AND TAKE OVER, UM, BECAUSE HE, HE KNOWS THESE PARKS PROJECTS BETTER THAN I DO, PLUS I DON'T TALK THIS MUCH.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS
JEFF WHITE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, HIT THESE PROJECTS PRETTY QUICK.
THESE HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE PARKS BOARD.
THIS IS THEIR RANKING OF WHERE THESE PROJECTS SHOULD RANK.
UM, AND THE FUNDING SOURCES WHILE THESE CAME FROM, UM, OUTREACHING TO OUR ARCHITECTS
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THAT WE HAVE ON IN A CONTRACT WITH AND JUST KINDA GETTING BALLPARK PRICES, WHAT THEY'VE SEEN AND WHAT THEY'RE FORECASTING.THERE IS SOME ESCALATIONS INTO IT, BUT IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE 20 OR 30% YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE, THE FIRST ONE IS FRITZ PARK.
UH, WE, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.
ON UH, ON THE CONCEPT, UM, I'M SEEING THIS ONE IS, UH, 2024.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY 2020 THREES IN HERE.
UM, THEY'RE NOT IN HERE CAUSE THERE, THERE ARE NO 2023 PARK PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT CIP.
IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET 'EM ADDED.
NO, JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO LOOKING FOR 2020 THREES AND THEY'RE NOT IN HERE.
WE, WE DID HAVE SOME FUNDING THAT WE CHOSE TO DO THE MASTER PLAN CONCEPT WITH, BUT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS REALLY, IT'S LIKE 25,000, SO IT WAS A SMALLER AMOUNT.
UH, SO THIS IS OUR BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FRITZ PARK.
UM, AND WE'RE SEEING, UH, OBVIOUSLY A RENOVATION OF THE PARK, NEW SPLASHBACK WALKING TRAIL, PLAYGROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAD A MASTER PLAN CONCEPT PRESENTED, UH, IN JANUARY AT CITY COUNCIL.
UH, IT'S ON OUR WEBPAGE FOR THOSE THAT WANNA LOOK AT IT.
WE'RE PROJECTING THIS TO COME IN AROUND 10 MILLION, UH, PROBABLY 3.5 MILLION IN 24 FOR, WE EITHER DESIGN A FIRST PARTY CONSTRUCTION AND THE REST OF IT.
OBVIOUSLY IN THE NEXT YEAR, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEAR PROJECT WITH EVERYTHING WORKED OUT BECAUSE IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE US SIX MONTHS TO GET THROUGH CHARETTES AND ALL THE FINAL DESIGN CONCEPTS.
BECAUSE THE MASTER PLAN CONCEPT WAS JUST THAT A BIGGER MASTER PLAN CONCEPT.
SO YOU KINDA SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS HERE.
THERE'S SOME SET ASIDE FOR DESIGN CAPITAL COSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS FIELD LIGHTING.
UH, THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE PROPOSED TO BE PAID OUT OF THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUND.
SO, UM, THIS WAS INCREASE THE D DELIGHTING THAT WE HAVE AT MAKER.
SO THE FIELDS WERE IN PUT IN THERE IN 1970 ISH.
I HAVE A PICTURE SOMEWHERE ON MY PHONE THAT HAS THE EXACT DATE.
UH, AND PROBABLY THE BULBS HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN.
AND THE NEW TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS YOU JUST TO SHINE RIGHT ONTO THE FIELDS.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, ADDING IN THE T-BALL LIGHTING TO LIGHTING TO THE T-BALL FIELD.
UH, THOSE ALL COME WITH, UH, VERY EXTENDED WARRANTIES AND ULTIMATELY WILL PAY FOR THEMSELVES ON ROIS OVER TIME WITH ELECTRICAL FEES.
WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HOW, HOW ARE THEY CONTROLLED? THEY'RE CONTROLLED THROUGH AN APP THAT WE USE.
THEY'RE ALSO MANUAL OVERRIDES BASED TO AN APP THAT WE CAN MONITOR.
SO OUR CURRENT LIGHTS AT OSTROM SOFTBALL FIELD, UH, THE FOOTBALL FIELD, THE NEW BASKETBALL COURTS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND THE TENNIS COURTS THAT WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR, THOSE ALL ON THE SAME APP.
SO WE CAN MONITOR WHEN THEY'RE BEING USED.
WE CAN ASSIGN USERS TO THOSE GROUPS.
WE CAN TRACK WHEN THE HOURS ARE BEING USED.
SO IT'S A FULL, AND IT HAS 24 HOUR ACCESS.
SO IF WE EVER HAD AN EMERGENCY, WE CAN ALWAYS CALL THEM TOO.
IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR ALL THAT QUESTION.
SO IT'S, IT'S BOYS AND GIRLS AND IT'S REALLY, THEY COULD PLAY ON THAT FIELD AS SIX AND UNDER, SO LIKE BY FOUR AND UNDER SIX AND UNDER.
AND SO SOMETIMES THEY GET BUT DO THEY IS YEAH, THEY DO.
THEY PLAY GAMES OF TOOK IT'S DARK.
SO I WAS JUST LIKE, HMM,
AND Y M C A, I MEAN, NOT THE Y M C A, BUT THE H Y B S A COULD EXPAND THEIR PROGRAM TO EVEN YOUNGER KIDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, YEAH, IT JUST CREATES MORE FLEXIBILITY.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SIX YEARS, SIX YEAR OLDS OUT THERE AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT,
WELL, THEY KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS, THE HUDDLE YOUTH BASEBALL PARTNERS WITH KIDS FROM PFLUGERVILLE OR MAYNARD TAYLOR, AUSTIN, ALL THE ROUNDING AIR IS PLAYING A BIG LEAGUE.
SO THEY LOVE PLAYING IN HUDDLE.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY MORE LIGHTS MEANS MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR TOWN.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS THE TRAIL LIGHTING.
UH, I'VE USED AN EXAMPLE, TERRENCE WILL HEAR IT AGAIN, SO HE'S GONNA HAVE TO HEAR IT TWICE.
SO A LOT OF TIMES IN FEBRUARY WHERE IT'S A NICE 70 DEGREE DAY, BUT THE SUN GOES DOWN AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND IT'S DARK.
AND SO WE DON'T FEEL, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANNA WALK ON A TRAIL.
SO BY ADDING SOLAR LIGHTING TO THE TRAILS, UH, WILL ALLOW US TO EXPAND THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO GET EXERCISE.
BECAUSE THE TRAIL IS A GREAT SOURCE FOR ALL LEVELS OF FITNESS.
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CAN RUN, BIKE, RIDE, STROLL, WHEEL, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.NOW DO, AM I REMEMBERING CORRECTLY THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT UH, A LOW AND A HIGHLIGHT? WE WOULD MIX IT UP, YEAH.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE PAID OUT OF PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.
AND SO THESE WOULD BE, UM, COME ON AT NIGHT AND STAY ON THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.
AND OBVIOUSLY AT LIKE A CERTAIN TIME, LIKE 11 O'CLOCK, THEY WOULD REDUCE DOWN TO 30% UNLESS SOMEBODY WALKED UNDERNEATH IT, THEN IT WOULD KIND OF SHINE BRIGHT.
A SOLAR PANEL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUGH, THAT YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL SENSOR THERE.
WHEN A DUST TO DAWN, BASICALLY WHENEVER IT HITS DUSK IT DOESN'T MATTER OR IF IT'S OVERCAST, THEY WOULD COME ON.
BUT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO OVERRIDE 'EM.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE SOLAR PANELS ON THEM TOO.
JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE COST OF THE ELECTRICAL HAVING TO TRENCH ALL THAT PULL IN METERS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ROUGHLY ALMOST TWO MILES OF THIS.
SO IT'S EASIER TO BUY 62, 65 POLES AND SOLAR PANELS TO, TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE REDUCED POWER, UH, DISC GOLF WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS VERY RANKED REALLY HIGH.
UH, I THINK THE FACTOR OF THIS WAS LIKE 250,000.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE PAID OUTTA THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUDE DESIGN AND DISC GOLF COURSE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS FOR THAT.
THE FINAL DESTINATION OF THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME VIABLE RESOURCES FOR THAT.
AND ONCE AGAIN, PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IS AN OPTION FOR THAT.
WHAT WILL BE THE, THE SOURCE OF THAT? NEXT WE GET INTO ATHLETIC FIELDS.
UH, THIS WAS FOR A, UH, FOURPLEX CONCEPT WITH, UH, CONCESSION PARKING AND SYNTHETIC TURF.
AND THIS NUMBER CAME FROM, LIKE I SAID, OUR ARCHITECTS THAT ARE SEEING SIMILAR PRODUCTS.
AND SO WE OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST OF, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S AT, HOW MUCH IS INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY THERE, THAT COST MAY INCREASE DRASTICALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOTTING ALONE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT.
WELL, AND IF YOU SEE IT SAYS SYNTHETIC TURF, WHICH IS WHERE THAT RIGHT THERE GETS ME THAT $4 MILLION ISN'T ENOUGH.
YEAH, I THINK THEY, THEY JUST PRICED IN.
UM, BRIAN, THEY JUST BUILT SOME FIELDS IN BRIAN.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE PULLED THAT NUMBER FROM AND WE ADDED A, A FEW DOLLARS TO IT, BUT NOT, AND THERE'S NOTHING RIGID OBVIOUSLY.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY, IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO IMPROVE THAT NUMBER, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AS WELL.
NOW ONE, ONE THING I DIDN'T SEE ON THIS ONE OR THE PREVIOUS ONE IS AN ACTUAL LOCATION.
BUT THIS RANKED HIGH AMONG OUR, UH, PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES AND UH, PRIORITY FOR US, WE DID A 2018 BOND ON THIS.
SO I GOT A QUESTION BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THE ONE YOU JUST SHOWED AT MAKER FIELD.
YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ARTIFICIAL TURFS FIELDS WITH THE LIGHTING, WOULDN'T THAT RANK HIGHER THAN JUST PUTTING SOME LIGHTS AT A T-BALL FIELD WHERE THIS WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE YEAR ROUND? YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RAINOUTS AND YOU GET MORE OF THE COMMUNITY ACCESS TO IT.
WE HAVE RENTAL REQUESTS A YEAR ROUND TO USE THOSE FIELDS AND WE JUST, WE NEED ALL THE FIELDS WE CAN GET TO BE HONEST HERE.
BUT, UM, WE'VE STILL UTILIZED THOSE FIELDS AT MEGER, UH, FOR DIFFERENT LEAGUES OR EVEN PRACTICES AND WE STILL NEED LIGHTING THERE.
AND THEN AS A SOCCER DAD, MY, MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR OUR SOCCER TEAMS THAT ARE OUT HERE? CUZ WE DON'T HAVE ANY ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS OUT HERE THAT WE CAN USE.
NO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, GOING FORWARD.
SO THAT WE DO, WE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE SOCCER FIELDS IN 2020 AND IT KIND OF SAT DORMANT, UH, FOR A WHILE.
AND SO WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
SO PROBABLY NEXT YEAR C I P WILL MAKE A REVISION TO START PLANNING LONG TERM.
UH, NEXT UP IS WHAT WE CALL DURANGO PARK.
IT'S A PROPERTY, THE PARK AT LIBERTY AND EAST.
THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS YOU CAN CHARACTERIZE THIS, BUT THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THERE IS THIS THREE AND A HALF ACRES.
UH, AND IT RANKED, UM, HIGH ON THIS LIST PRIMARILY BECAUSE THERE IS A, UH, $2 MILLION COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED FOR THAT PARK.
SO IF THAT WERE TO BE USED, DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS DESIGNED THERE, UH, THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD STARTER FOR THAT AMOUNT CUZ I MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF EXPRESSED A LOT OF, UM, PRIORITIES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT PARK.
WASN'T THERE A LOT OF TALK AT THE PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT MUSEUM? THAT WAS BEEN ONE.
THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT ATHLETIC FIELDS.
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ABOUT, UH, EXPANDING, MAKING IT MORE OF A POCKET PARK AND EXPANDING FOR THE PARKING DOWNTOWN.UM, LIKE I SAID, E EVERYBODY'S HAD A, A THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT IT DID RANK HIGH FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS OUR, OUR PARKS SUPERVISOR BOARD.
UH, NEXT UP IS THE, UH, ADAM ORGA PARK.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IS UH, IS HOME TO OUR AMPHITHEATER.
IT'S ALSO HOME TO OUR, PROBABLY OUR LARGEST EVENT HERE, KOCH FEST.
UM, SO WE DO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AREA, BUT WE REALIZE HA REALLY HASN'T HAD A TRUE DESIGN AND A TRUE LONG-TERM VISION OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS IS TO, TO SEE THEIR, IT MAY BE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE PARK ENDS UP BEING OR LET'S REV REVITALIZE IT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL AS ACCOMMODATE THOSE GROUPS.
UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS OBVIOUSLY IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SPORTS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PLACE FOR THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME POSSIBLE POSSIBILITIES OF THIS LOCATION, UH, BUT WE'VE GOTTA BE SENSITIVE.
PICKLEBALL IS, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A GREAT SPORT.
IT'S LIKE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW US, LIKE, UH, PLAYING PING PONG BY STANDING ON THE PING PONG TABLE, THIS KIND OF WAY, BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY LOUD.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO LAWSUITS, UH, ABOUT THE NOISE AND NOISE ORDINANCES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A WOODEN PADDLE HITTING A BALL, HOLLOW BALL, WHIFFLE BALL OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT ECHOES QUITE A BIT AGAINST THE CONCRETE WALL.
SO WE JUST NEED TO BE SENSITIVE.
WE DON'T WANNA BE IN THAT LAWSUIT GROUP.
SO WE'D BE SENSITIVE ABOUT WHERE WE PUT THIS.
SO THE FINAL, UH, LOCATION HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED, BUT WE DID WANNA PUT THIS ON HERE BECAUSE IT IS A PRIORITY.
WE DO GET ASKED A LOT ABOUT PICKLEBALL.
UH, TRAIL EXPANSION WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME UP AND UM, SOME OF THIS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH, UH, PARKS DEVELOPMENT, THE SMALLER PORTION OF IT.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT EXTENDING, UH, A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT BASICALLY GOES FROM UNIVERSITY TO THE AMPHITHEATER AND THEN CONNECTING THE BRUSHY CREEK TRAIL, YOU'RE TALKING, UH, ABOUT MULTIPLE MILLION DOLLARS OF, OF CONCRETE JUST BEING POURED THERE ON, ON THIS ONE.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO KINDA ID THOSE SO THAT MM-HMM.
I'M JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY WITH THE, UH, RECENT DEVELOPMENTS WE DID ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN AND THEIR TRAIL PLANS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WOULD BE A BIGGER PRIORITY TO FILL IN THIS A HUNDRED FOOT GAP HERE MM-HMM.
WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
SO WITH THIS, UM, IN THE LAST ONE THAT YOU HAD ON THE LIGHTS FOR THE TRAILS, UM, HOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR TRAILS ARE HA OR WILL HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING SYSTEM? SO WITH, UM, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, WE WILL LIGHT FROM MEGER DOWN TO CARL STERN MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S, UH, ROUGHLY 1.72 MILE, 1.75 OR TWO MILES.
AND THEN AROUND, UH, HUDDLE LAKE PARK, WHICH IS ANOTHER MILE AND A QUARTER.
SO, UH, PREDOMINANTLY THE HEAVILY USED TRAILS IN HU WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED FROM UNIVERSITY ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT TYPE OF SECURITY FEATURES OR CALL BOXES DO WE PROVIDE ON THE TRAILS? WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING SOME SMALL SIGNAGE WITH A LIKE A MILE MARKER DESTINATION IN THERE MM-HMM.
SO AS IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PINPOINTED OF AN AREA FOR LET POLICE KNOW.
AND WE COULD LOOK AT CALL BOXES.
THE THING WITH THOSE IS THEY JUST TYPICALLY SEE A LOT OF INTERESTING AND JUST PICK IT UP AND HANG UP AND THEN PLEASE GOTTA RESPOND.
AND THIS POTENTIAL EXPANSION, LIKE I SAID, WOULD CONNECT INTO THE BRUSHER CREEK REGIONAL TRAIL NETWORK.
WHICH BASICALLY, UH, WHEN WILCO GETS DONE, IT'LL GO ALL THE WAY TO LIBERTY HILL MM-HMM.
SO IT'S A BIG BENEFICIAL FOR OH, ABSO FOR OLIVE AUTO AND ABSOLUTELY.
I, ANYTHING, I'M JUST, LIKE I SAID, YEAH, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF THIS PIECE IS SOMETHING WE CAN PRIORITIZE BECAUSE THIS WILL CONNECT MM-HMM.
AND SOME OF THAT IS, IS DEPENDENT ON, UH, WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, BUT WE THINK WE CAN GET AN EASEMENT OR THINK IT'S IS OWNED BY DEVELOPER AND THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA TAKE OWNERSHIP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE GOTTA MAINTAIN IT.
SO, UH, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MAINTAINING OUTSIDE THE TRAIL? UM, SIDE
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QUESTION.SO LIKE, I'VE SEEN SOME TRAILS, UH, DOWN BY BRUSH CREEK THROUGH CARMEL THAT IT'S THE CONCRETE AND IT'S OVERGROWN ON EACH SIDE.
AND SO TO ME, IS THERE NOT A, A BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED? THERE IS, THERE'S TYPICALLY A, A 10 FOOT BUFFER ON EACH SIDE OF AREAS OF TRAILS THAT ARE NOT, UM, AS VISIBLE OR, OR HAVE, HAVE THAT GAP ISSUE.
BUT LIKE THE CARAMEL CREEK ONE THAT IS MOWED BIMONTHLY.
AND SO THAT WHOLE AREA SHOULD BE MOWED PRETTY FREQUENTLY.
SO IF WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT, THEN
SO IT'S ON A, MOST OF THOSE ARE ON A BIMONTHLY MOWING SCHEDULE.
UM, AND SO SOMETIMES THEY, THEY MOW AND IT RAINS THE NEXT DAY AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE DEAL YOU SEE IS A LOT OF DALLAS GRASS AND WEEDS THAT MM-HMM.
BUT IT'S LIKE A 10 FOOT BUFFER IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO ON EACH SIDE.
UH, HUDDLE LAKE PARK, UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, TO DESIGN AND RENOVATE THE, THE ENTIRE PARK WITH A NEW PLAY SCAPE, WALKING TRAIL LAKE ENHANCEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, KEEP IN MIND THIS ONE IS UNDER A EASEMENT FROM UPPER BRUSHY CREEK WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.
SO IT DOES REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO DO THAT.
UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE DAM THAT'S THERE.
UM, THIS IS, UM, AN AREA THAT'S KIND OF MORE OF A LINEAR PARK AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, DESIGNS AND RENOVATIONS OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THERE, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, HOME TO, UH, MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS OR WORKOUT FITNESS OR NATURE TRAILS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST OPENS PARK SPACE.
YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION GO ALONG WITH THAT, UH, REC CENTER.
THIS OBVIOUSLY TIES INTO THE, UH, THE 2018 BOND WHERE REC CENTER WAS MENTIONED.
UH, SO THIS IS THE INITIAL, UH, FUNDING OF THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA, THAT COULD BE DESIGN, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE DESIGN COST I IMAGINE, THAN ANYTHING.
WHAT IS THE, WHAT WAS THE PLAN FOR THAT REC CENTER? LIKE WHAT IS THE ENVISION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT? SO THE, THE ORIGINAL VISION WAS TO BUILD, UM, IN THE, UM, R WHAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE RSI, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IT CALLED NOW? EMORY FIELDS, I BELIEVE.
CROSSING, CROSSING, EMORY CROSSING.
THE, THE BIG, THE BIG ONE A THOUSAND HOUSE IS TO PUT, UH, WHERE THEIR AMENITY CENTER WAS.
THAT WAS WHERE THE, THE REC CENTER WAS GONNA ENVISION TO LIVE.
UH, SINCE THEN, OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE CHANGED, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A IDENTIFIED AT A NEW LOCATION FOR THAT YET.
I KNOW THERE WAS TALK WHEN THE BONDS WERE VOTED IN THAT OH YEAH, THE REC CENTER'S GONNA BE IN PART OF THE PERFECT GAME MESS MM-HMM.
SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT ON THE C I P WHETHER OR NOT JUST KEEPS GETTING PUSHED BACK EVERY FIVE YEARS.
THAT'S, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WE THINK IT'S A PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, OURS IS MEASLY COMPARED TO MATT
WE'RE ALL ASKING FOR, UH, WHAT WAS IT, 28 MILLION THERE,
I KEEP MIND IN DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT EVEN IMPACTING THE ONE, ONE THING I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, OH, WHAT WAS IT? THE NATURE PARK AT ORGA? WHEN WERE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT? NOVEMBER OF 21.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY GO INTO THE, THE, THE ORGA PLANNING AND DESIGN AND SEEING WHAT WAS, WHAT WE COULD INCORPORATE OUT OF THAT.
BECAUSE YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING OVER THERE BY THE, UM, THE, UH, DOG BOARDING MM-HMM.
BUT TURNING THAT INTO A NATURE PARK AND TYING IT IN WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND I DON'T SEE THAT ON HERE.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE TRAIL EXPANSION, THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S CONNECTING ULTIMATELY TO, TO, TO GET TO THAT WAY.
WE'D LIKE, WE COULD USE CARL STERN TO GO DOWN THAT WAY, BUT, UM, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ALONG BRUSHY CREEK.
AND SO FROM CHRIS KELLY TO GO DOWN, BUT THE LAW OF THAT'S OWNED BY THE, THE HOA OR WHATEVER, AND SOME OF IT'S OWNED, PRIVATELY OWNED, AND THERE'S THE OLD 1 97
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THAT WE COULD USE BUT THEN DOESN'T COME OUT RIGHT AT THE AMPHITHEATER.IT'S KINDA LIKE ADJACENT TO LEFT.
AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO CROSS THE BRIDGE TO GET OVER TO THERE.
SO, UH, AND THE SCHOOL OWNS SEVEN ACRES ALONG BEHIND THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN GIVING TO US.
SO, BUT STILL WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO ACROSS PRIVATE LAND AND WHETHER OR NOT THE PRIVATE LANDOWNERS ARE GONNA BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT OR WE GET AN EASEMENT OR MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT'S IN THAT BIG, THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES THAT, UH, TRAIL EXPANSION THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT.
AND SO ALONG THOSE WAYS THEN IT BECOMES, OKAY, IF THAT WERE TO BECOME TO FRUITION AND WE HAD POTENTIAL PARKING THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE COULD EITHER LOOK AT ADDING A NATURE CENTER TYPE OF DEAL, A REC CENTER OR OKAY.
A STANDALONE BUILDING OR JUST MAKING IT MORE OF A TRUE NATURE TRAIL TO GO THROUGH THERE.
BECAUSE IF YOU'VE HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THAT OH 1 30, 1 37, IT'S REALLY, IT'S, YOU DON'T HEAR A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S KIND OF PEACEFUL OUT THERE.
BACK, BACK THERE WHERE THE DOGS ARE
WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT, AS NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY EITHER HAVE TO GIVE US 15 ACRES, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR THIS BOARD.
SO 15 ACRES IS THE MINIMUM THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE US NOW, OR THE MONEY.
SO, UH, THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR EITHER PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT OR PARKLAND ACQUISITION.
SO AS WE GO FORWARD, IF WE NEED TO BUY LAND AND BUILD THAT MONEY UP, WE COULD USE THAT FOR THAT.
SO DO YOU THINK THE, THE, THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE OR OUR LAND, UM, YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH GOING FORWARD 3, 5, 8 YEARS TO, OR DO WE THINK WE'LL NEED SOMETHING FOR THE FEE OR FOR, FOR NO, FOR LAND ACQUISITIONS.
UM, YOU THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL, THAT'LL SUPPLY ALL THE LAND WE NEED IS THE NO DEVELOPER.
WELL, AS AS WE ALSO HAVE THE BOND MONEY TOO THAT COULD POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THAT AS WE NEEDED TO.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TO FOCUS ON REALLY IMPROVING WHAT WE HAVE.
AND NOT NECESSARILY AVOIDING LONG TERM, BUT WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN ACQUISITION, YOU KNOW, LONGER TERM WOULD BE MORE 3, 4, 5 YEARS OUT? IT'D PROBABLY BE LONGER THAN THAT.
JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UH, THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY AND TRYING TO GET FRITZ PARK RE RENOVATED.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THE, UH, REVIEW OR A REFRESH OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE AND NO, THAT I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, YEAH, WE'VE KIND OF PUT THAT IN LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IN 26 OR 27 TO RE-LOOK AT THAT MM-HMM.
WE'RE THE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT FEES, WE'RE DOING AN ANALYSIS ON THOSE NOW.
SO THOSE WILL GET RENOVATED SOMETIME WITH THIS YEAR WITH ESCALATING COSTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IF WE WERE TO PLUG THAT IN HERE AND THAT STARTS PUTTING IT ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR MM-HMM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN SOON.
WELL THE TYPICAL FIVE, 10 YEARS.
TYPICALLY, UM, WE JUST GOT ADOPTED IN 2020.
SO TYPICALLY THEY RUN ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT ADDING IT TO THE 27 OR 28, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR SURE.
BECAUSE, AND I DON'T THINK PARKS BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
WITH, WITH THE C I P UH, COMMITTEE.
I WANNA SAY 18 MONTHS AGO, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEPT RUNNING INTO IS OH YEAH, WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON THE MASTER MOBILITY.
AND THAT TRIGGERS LOOKING AT THE FEES.
WELL, PRICES ARE SKYROCKETING AND IF WE'RE NOT RE-LOOKING AT THE PLANS TO RE-LOOK AT THE FEES, THEN WE'RE JUST FALLING FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND.
OFFSETS FOUR TIMES OURS RIGHT NOW, ROB, BY THE TIME THE MASTER PLAN GETS DONE, YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND ANYWAY, CUZ THEY'RE TRUE A YEAR AND A HALF PROCESS.
BUT, BUT GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND DOESN'T, DOESN'T HELP US OUT.
AND WE, I THINK WE HAVE, UM, SOMETHING IN THE, IN JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET REQUEST FOR TRAILS MASTER PLANNING BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS COST.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, I THINK WE'RE PACKAGING 50 TO 75,000, SO THAT'S LIKE A ONE TIME EXPENSE SINCE, WHEREAS A PARKS MASTER PLAN IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LABOR INTENSIVE, A LITTLE MORE TIME CONSUMING AND OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA, ONE LAST COMMENT THAT I HAVE ON THE PARK STUFF.
UM, TO ME THE COMMUNITY CENTER SEEMS LIKE A HIGH, HIGH IMPACT THING TO HAPPEN TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A SECOND HIGH SCHOOL COMING ON, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL TO
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NEW ELEMENTARY AS YOU KNOW, IN THAT BOND AND THE FORWARD LOOKING PROGRESS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 2030 TO ME, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GONNA THROW A NUMBER THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE LIKE, HOLY COW, YOU KNOW, A $20 MILLION COMMUNITY CENTER.WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS TO THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
WE'VE GOT, I LOVE ALL THE PARKS AND I LOVE GOING TO 'EM, BUT TO ME HAVING A CENTRAL PLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE ORGANIZATIONS COME, YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOY SCOUTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PINEWOOD DERBY AND HAVE GIRL SCOUTS THERE.
WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS THAT THAT SPACE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT LIKE 2028, YOU KNOW, A $20 MILLION FACILITY WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE ROLLING ONLINE RIGHT AROUND A LOT OF THE NEW ELEMENTARIES AND HIGH SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING HERE AND WE'RE GOING FROM, YOU KNOW, ONE HIGH SCHOOL TO TWO, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION GROWTH ALONG WITH OUR STUDENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMEWHERE WHERE ALL OUR COMMUNITY COME FOR SOME OF THESE EVENTS.
I MEAN WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, WE'VE BUILDING BACK AN OUTSTANDING RECREATION SIDE OF PARKS AND REC MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S NOT ONLY IMPACTING JUST PARKS AND REC THAT'S IMPACTING ALL THE FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE AND THEY'RE UTILIZING OUR SERVICES.
SO IT'S FOR, FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T HAVE KIDS AND DON'T GO TO SCHOOL EVENTS.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NOT ON THE PARKS.
CAN WE TAKE SOME OF MATT'S MONEY AND JUST PUT IT OVER HERE? YEAH.
JUST GIMME LIKE A 10TH OF MATT'S MONEY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE BRIDGE OUT OF TREES.
ALL RIGHT, SO LAST THING I'LL COME UP, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ASKED ME TO ADD THIS IN HERE.
UM, HE'S SAYING WE NEED A NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
WHAT IS THAT? SO, UM, IN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER BEEN, BUT WHERE OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS HOUSED RIGHT NOW IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO IT'S WHERE COUNTY ROAD 1 99 TURNS 90 DEGREES AND BECOMES COUNTY ROAD 1 32.
IF YOU GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM THE OLD, WHAT WAS IT? J R S BUILDING MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS CURRENTLY HOUSED AND THE BIG OPEN YARD BEHIND IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR DUMP TRUCKS, ALL OF OUR BACKHOE, ALL OF OUR, I THINK DOES PARK STILL SHARE SPACE OVER THERE.
AND SO ALL OF OUR UTILITIES, EVERYTHING IS CRAMMED INTO THAT TINY LITTLE SPACE.
AND SO, UM, WE'VE NEEDED MORE SPACE FOR A WHILE.
AND SO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ASKED ME TO ADD THIS IN HERE.
UM, JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, HE DID TRY TO GET INTO THE WHOLE THING OF GETTING INTO THAT JRS BUILDING, BUT IT WAS GONE AS SOON AS IT HIT THE MARKET.
AND SO, UM, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT HE CAME UP WITH.
UM, AND THEY'RE ALL BALLPARKS.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE, WHERE HE GOT THESE NUMBERS FROM.
UM, I'M JUST, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I, I'M ASSUMING YOU DON'T KNOW LIKE HOW BIG OF A BUILDING, HOW MANY PEOPLE HE'S TRYING TO PUT IN HERE.
ARE WE PROVIDING ANY MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? OR IS THIS, I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN, THIS NUMBER'S LOW FROM WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE NEEDS ARE FOR OUR CITY.
SO I, I THINK HE'S JUST BANKING ON THE IDEA THAT IF NECESSARY HE COULD SQUEEZE INTO ANOTHER SMALL LOCATION AND JUST SPLIT HIS FORCES.
CUZ YOU'RE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR, UH, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE GUY WHO WORKS OUT OF THAT SAME PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
AND SO, UM, EVERY TIME WE NEED TO DO A MAINTENANCE ON A VEHICLE, IT'S DONE IN THERE.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S SOMETHING MAJOR IT GOES OFF AND AND TO, TO THE LEASING.
BUT, UM, I CAN, I CAN TALK TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND SEE WHERE HE, WHAT, SO I'M, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
THE BUS BARN UP BY THE NINTH GRADE CENTER, THAT'S I S D PROPERTY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND I S D ABOUT HAVING A JOINT FACILITY THERE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT HAPPENED.
SO IT KINDA ALIGNED WITH THAT.
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WE HAVE ASKED THE SCHOOL ABOUT THE OLD BUS BARN ON BY FRITZ PARK AND INDI INDICATIONS BEEN, THEY'RE GONNA RE REUSE THAT FOR OTHER AREAS THEY HAVE OFFERED, POTENTIALLY OFFERED UP THE OLD AG BARN ON FRONT STREET AS A POTENTIAL PLACE, UH, THAT COULD BE THERE.BUT IT DOES HAVE A OPEN-ENDED, UH, SHELTER AND I THINK A RESTROOM THERE IN THE CORNER.
UH, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME STAFF IS JUST WINDSHIELD TIME TRYING TO GET FROM NORTH SIDE TO SOUTH SIDE.
BECAUSE THAT EX WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M, I'M JUST THINKING THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF LAND AND LIKE YOU JUST SAID, JRS GOT SNAPPED UP IMMEDIATELY.
BUT IF THE I S D HAS A CHUNK OF LAND THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY BEING USED, BUT COULD BE USED FUTURE, MAYBE WE COULD ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF JOINT PROGRAM WHERE WE BUILD THE PUBLIC WORKS, I'LL CALL IT MAINTENANCE FACILITY THERE.
AND THEN WHEN WE ACQUIRE LAND SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY TAKE IT OVER AS KIND OF A, A SHARE.
YOU KNOW, THEY THROW IN HALF, WE THROW IN HALF WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A BIGGER ONE OVER HERE AS THE NEED GROWS.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN TALK TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND SEE IF HE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
YEAH, JUST IT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BUS BARN AND THE NINTH GRADE CENTER AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, I WAS LIKE, WHY DON'T WE INCLUDE THE CITY ON THIS KIND OF THING.
UH, SO THAT IS THE IT
UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T EVEN DO THE WHOLE $1 BILLION.
UM, SO MOVING FORWARD, WE ONLY GET ONE MORE TIME TOGETHER BEFORE THIS IS READY TO BE FINALIZED AND GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ASHLEY AND I WANTED FEEDBACK ON FROM YOU GUYS IS HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THE NEXT MEETING SINCE IT'S OUR LAST CHANCE TO KIND OF THROW THIS STUFF TOGETHER BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL? BECAUSE I THINK ON THAT MEETING WE'RE RESERVING IT STRICTLY FOR C I P.
SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY OTHER REGULAR BUSINESS TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.
I, I PERSONALLY LIKE THE THE YEAR BREAKDOWN, LIKE THE 2023 PREFIX, AND I THINK THAT IS A HELP.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED EARLY ON IS THE, UH, THE ENGINEERING COLORS CHANGED, KEEPING THAT CONSISTENT MAY HELP WITH SPEEDING THE PROCESS ALONG.
IT'S LIKE, WAIT, WHY IS THIS ORANGE INSTEAD OF GREEN? LIKE IT WAS ON THE LAST ONE.
JUST, OKAY, EIGHT AN OBSERVATION.
BUT I THINK, I THINK KIND OF BREAKING IT OUT BY YEAR MIGHT HELP WITH HOW WE EAT THIS ELEPHANT IF WE DO IT BY YEAR.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? WELL, I WAS THINKING OF KIND OF PARSING IT OUT ON THINGS THAT ARE, LET'S SAY, LESS CONTENTIOUS.
UM, IF WE TAKES KURT'S EXAMPLE OF ADDING THE NUMBERS, MAKING THE NUMBERS LOOK MORE PALATABLE TO THIS, TO THE CURRENT RIGHT.
ECONOMIC POSITION AND ALSO LOOKING UP, YOU KNOW, ONE TO THREE YEARS, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE, YOU HAVE BETTER, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER FEEL AND A, AND A HIGHER CONFIDENCE FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS THAN OTHERS.
AND MAYBE IF ASHLEY, IF YOU COULD KIND OF MAYBE PARSE THOSE THINGS OUT.
AND I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS A, A MESSAGE BOARD.
AND IF SOMETHING, I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN JUST SET SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP, BUT IF WE CAN ON OUR OWN KIND OF PARLAY ABOUT WHEN WE CAN, I'M NOT ASKING THIS AS A, AS A, I KNOW EVERYONE HAS A LOT FOR YOUR TIME THAN I DO, AND UH, I'M NOT, AND I'VE BLESSED Y'ALL FOR HAVING KIDS AND THINGS GOING ON
UM, BUT IF WE CAN BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS IN THE BACKGROUND BETWEEN US AND, AND, AND POSSIBLY OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DEPENDS ON THE, WHAT THE, HOW THE BOARD MEMBERS, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH STAFF INVOLVED.
UM, BUT, UH, FOR US TO THE ONES THAT ARE MORE CONTENTIOUS THAT WE CAN KIND OF, KIND OF HAVE A PREEMPTIVE DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES.
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BUT AGAIN, PARSING THINGS OUT THAT ARE LESS CONTENTIOUS AND MORE CONTENTIOUS OR BETTER YET, THINGS THAT YOU HAVE BETTER CONFIDENCE IN AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS, THE PROJECT DATES, UM, UM, FUNDING THOSE THINGS AND GIVE THAT TO US KIND OF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT LOW HANGING FRUIT OUTTA THE WAY ON OUR OWN, NOT DECISIONS MADE.AND WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT QUORUM ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, UM, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF TAKE MAYBE A, A THIRD OF THE APPLE AND BITE OF THE APPLE RIGHT AWAY HERE IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, WEEK TO 10 DAYS.
AND THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, LAST WEEK OR LAST HALF A WEEK KIND OF LOOKING AT THEM OF THE, THE METEOR ITEMS ALONG WITH YOUR UPDATED NUMBERS.
I, I ALSO THINK, KIND KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINES, WE'VE GOT THOSE MULTIPLE ENGINEERING, UH, WASTEWATER PROJECTS THAT ALL TIE INTO THE BRUSHY CREEK, UH, I WANNA SAY PHASE FOUR, BUT PUTTING THOSE AS I AGREE, ALMOST PRE-QUALIFICATIONS,
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY ALL ONE PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE ALL LINKED.
AND, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THE BRUSHY CREEK, UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THESE OTHER FIVE AS WELL.
WELL, IF THERE'S A KIND OF A, A CLUSTER, A LOGICAL WAY OF, OF, UM, SO YOU'RE KINDA SAYING COMBINING, SO INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, HEY, LET'S PRIORITIZE ITEM FIVE, WE, WE CAN'T GET TO FIVE UNLESS WE DO ONE THROUGH FIVE.
BUT I MEAN, HE CAN, HE CAN, THEY CAN PRE IT CAN BE PRESENTED IN THAT THESE ALL FIT TOGETHER MM-HMM.
UM, IT'S JUST NOT THIS TANK OR THIS STORAGE OR THIS, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOGICAL AND ENGINEERING PROCESS THAT MAKES SENSE MONEY-WISE, TIME-WISE, RESOURCE-WISE AND FUNDING, FUNDING WISE.
AND THAT MAYBE THOSE GET GROUPED TOGETHER AND THEN OUT OF THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT ARE MUCH MORE CONFIDENT, LESS CONTENTIOUS, AND THEN THINGS THAT ARE MORE CONTENTIOUS OR NOT AS CONFIDENT.
MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF KIND OF PARSING THE PARSING.
WE NEED THOSE, THE OTHER STUFF WE WANNA DO, BUT THEY DON'T IMPACT OUR, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING WATER, PROVIDING WASTEWATER, ALLOWING US TO GROW, YOU KNOW, IN THE TRANSPORTATION.
AND I'M KIND OF PUSHING THE TRANSPORTATION PARKS AND RECS IN THE FACILITIES OUTSIDE THAT SCOPE.
BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC STUFF WE CAN WORK ON.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT I WOULD WANNA KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE AND OKAY.
LIKE HE WAS SAYING, IF YOU HAVE THAT CHART OF WE GOTTA DO ALL FIVE OF THESE WASTEWATER PROJECTS AND THESE WATERLINE PROJECTS TO SERVE THIS AREA, AND THEN NOW WE'RE DEVELOPED AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO 2028, GREAT.
SO THAT WE CAN JUST GO, OKAY, WE'VE GOTTA GO FORWARD WITH THOSE AND THAT IT CAN BE PUSHED THROUGH EASIER.
AND ONE, ONE ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD PUT A, ANY SORT OF T C Q REQUIREMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, THE CAPACITY OF THE WASTE, UH, CENTRAL WASTEWATER FACILITY.
OKAY, WE NEED TO UPGRADE THIS, OTHERWISE WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
AND YOU KNOW THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A, ALONG THE SAME LINES AS, LOOK, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE CONSTRAINING OUR GROWTH, WE'RE CUTTING OUR, OUR FEET OFF.
WE CAN START TRYING TO THROW SOME THINGS TOGETHER.
UH, SO ONE THING THAT YOU DID NOT MENTION TONIGHT, AND I MEAN THAT'S PART OF MY GOAL IS TO NOT MAKE THIS A P AND Z RUBBER STAMP LIKE THE UP THE ENGINEER PRESENTED IT TO US.
SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT ADDING PROJECTS THAT THE P AND Z WANTS TO PUSH FORWARD? CAUSE THE, THE, I MEAN THESE, THESE ARE THE PARKS BOARD, THESE ARE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, THIS IS THE CITY ENGINEER'S OPINIONS.
I'M SURE CITY COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT ALL THAT, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE ALSO GONNA WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS.
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ARE THESE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WANTED TO CON CONSIDER OR ARE THERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT YOU GUYS WOULD'VE CONSIDERED THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO P TO CITY COUNCIL? WELL, AS WAS MENTIONED, I LIKE WHAT KURT SAID IS THAT WHAT IS GOING TO ADVANCE OUR GROWTH OKAY.WITHOUT IMPEDING IT AND THEN GETTING THE MOST BUCK, YOU KNOW, THE MOST PERFORMANCE OUT OF THE DOLLAR.
AND SO THE ONLY PROJECTS I'D SAY THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THAT MAYBE YOU HADN'T PRESENTED IS TO ME, UM, AS WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTIONS AND THE STREETS AND THE TRANSPORTATION STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW DO WE IMPROVE OUR CIRCULATION TO OUR SCHOOLS? YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I HATE HAVING TO GO DE NA JOHNSON NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL TO DROP MY KIDS OFF BECAUSE IT SUCKS.
AND MY WIFE HAS TO GO THROUGH THERE TO GET TO FIRE LEE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE, ONE, WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACTORS PUTTING IN A FIBER LINE BUST OF WATER LINE, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THAT ROAD THERE, THAT INTERSECTION WAS KIND OF ROUGH ANYWAYS.
BUT LIKE HOW DO WE IMPROVE THOSE AREAS THAT WE KNOW ARE ALWAYS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED? WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE OTHER MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, BUT LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIVITY AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, BETWEEN THESE SCHOOLS WE KNOW THERE'S SOME ISSUES, LET'S, LET'S FOCUS ON THIS ROAD BECAUSE ONE, YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IN BUY-IN THAT THEY'RE GONNA IMPROVE THIS, THAT'S GONNA MAKE MY LIFE EASIER.
I'M NOT GONNA BE GOING ON ROUGH ROADS.
AND TWO, THEN IT PROVIDES BETTER COM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY TO OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A HALF OUR COMMUNITIES TAKING KIDS THERE, OR THE BUSES.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THOSE AREAS YOU COULD IDENTIFY TO BRING BACK? OKAY.
AND MAYBE IT'S AS SIMPLE AS A, A LETTER GRADE SYSTEM, LIKE, OR A, YOU KNOW, A PRIORITY OR A COLOR CODE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
LIKE, HEY, THE, THIS PROJECT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS, SO IT'S A PRIORITY.
A, WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP THIS PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN KINDA LOOK AT IT AND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW MAYBE WE CAN SEE, YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE MIGHT BE ROOM TO PUT THE, THE NATURE CENTER IN THERE MIGHT BE ROOM TO DO A COMPLETE UPGRADE OF THIS INTERSECTION THAT ISN'T ON THE LIST.
THERE MIGHT BE ROOM TO DO THE REC CENTER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND I THINK IF WE'VE GOT A, A PRETTY CLEAR VISION OF OKAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ENGINEERING PARKS, ET CETERA ARE SAYING THESE ARE CRITICAL, THEN WE CAN KIND OF GO, YEAH, THESE, THESE WOULD BE NICE.
OR I THINK THESE MIGHT GO FROM NICE TO PRETTY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN WE CAN START MAKING THOSE KIND OF JUDGMENT CALLS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE NOT JUST RUBBER STAMPING.
THIS ONE, IT'S UNDERWAY, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE RUBBER STAMPING THAT ONE
ON FUTURE COMMUNICATION FOR ANY OF THOSE, DO YOU WANT THEM JUST TO RESPOND BACK TO THE CIP P EMAIL? DO YOU WANT THEM TO SEND IT TO ME AND I CAN CALL WHAT? CIP P EMAIL? UM, THE ONE WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT WENT OUT TONIGHT, I PUT MYSELF ON THE HEADING SO THEY CAN'T SEE THE BC BUT I DIDN'T, THEY'LL I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT, SO I'M NOT ON THAT LIST.
BUT YOU'LL YOU HAVE THE FORWARDED ONE, RIGHT? CONTACT IT ON THIS FUTURE EMAILS.
WELL, SO BECAUSE IT WAS BCC YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REPLY ALL.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY CAN I I WOULD NOT USE THE CIP EMAILS.
I THINK THAT GOES THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS.
I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT WHEN I INCLUDED ME AND YOU.
SO I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, IF YOU WANT, AND THEN WE CAN REITERATE THAT TO THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, OR THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, SORRY.
UM, THAT THEY CAN JUST OH MY GOD.
SEND IT TO US INSTEAD OF, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT A WALK IN QUORUM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
CAUSE WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
I, I THINK PROBABLY, PROBABLY COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, IDEAS, QUESTIONS.
WE SHOULD ROUTE THAT THROUGH YOU, I THINK.
AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN EITHER BLAST THAT TO JEFF OR MATT OR WHOEVER.
OR, OR JUST, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
I'LL, I CAN CALL THOSE AND AT LEAST PUT 'EM TOGETHER OF LIKE, THIS IS THE PROJECT BASE, THIS IS, THIS IS THOSE, AND GET 'EM TO JEFF AS WELL IF THERE'S, AND THEN WHEN I COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS, IF YOUR QUESTIONS DON'T GET ANSWERED THEN WE CAN ALL BLAME ASHLEY.
I HAVE A ZUCCHINI AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE IT.
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UM, THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL.I WILL, UH, REITERATE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT IT.
AND THEN JUST IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AND I WILL SEND ON AN EMAIL TO THIS EFFECT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYTHING ON, UM, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN OR ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE, SEND THEM TO ME AND I WILL GET THEM TO THE GROUP.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU LIKE THE LAYOUT CUZ IT'S, I KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT.
IT, IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO WHAT I'VE SEEN AT COUNCIL.
SO THERE'S THAT FAMILIARITY WITH IT, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
AND IF COUNCIL IS SEEING THINGS THAT LOOK FAMILIAR TO THEM, THEN THERE'S LESS, UH, DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ABOUT 'EM.
THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, THE ZUCCHINI REPORT.
NO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE ZUCCHINI.
NO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NEEDS TO HEAR ABOUT THIS THING.
OKAY, LET ME GET BACK INTO IT.
OKAY, SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE C I P.
UM, OUR MAIN FOCUS FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IS JUST TO FOCUS ON THIS FOR YOU.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL ONLY BE BRINGING BACK THE C I P ON THE SIX 20.
WE HAVE KEPT EVERY OTHER ITEM OFF.
UM, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE TIME.
THAT WILL BE A POSTED MEETING AT SEVEN UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO SEND OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING, SEND OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO DO THIS AT SIX AND JUST KIND OF GET, UM, A TEMPERATURE OF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO SEE IF WE COULD DO SIX.
I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO KEEP YOU HERE AS LATE.
WE COULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY CHANGE THAT TIMEFRAME.
UM, JUST, UH, I'LL MEET AT ANY TIME.
BUT NO ONE ELSE IS TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE YEAH.
I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A, A DIFFICULT ONE IF WE MOVE IT UP JUST BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, WE HAVE SOME THAT, UM, COMMUTE.
AND IT'S ALSO, UH, LIKE FOR, FOR ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE LEAD TIME.
WHAT ABOUT HAVING, WOULD IT FACILITATE SOME, GOT SOME PEOPLE FOR HAVING A ZOOM MEETING? UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK WITH LEGAL AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO EVEN ADD TEAMS SO THAT UM, THEY COULD LISTEN IN.
CUZ CERTAINLY I THINK ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM, I BELIEVE THAT'S STILL ALLOWED.
I KNOW THAT THE EDC HAD DONE THAT PRIOR.
UM, I CAN CERTAINLY SEE CUZ CERTAINLY IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BUT THEY JUST CAN'T GET HERE, I'D STILL LOVE TO HAVE THAT INPUT.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN GO TO COUNCIL WITH MORE THAN JUST A QUORUM.
UM, SO CERTAINLY LET ME DOUBLE CHECK WITH THAT.
I WON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT AND SEND SOMETHING OUT IF THAT WILL WORK AT LEAST ON THE TEAMS OR WITH THE EMAIL TOMORROW, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I WILL BE THE CONTACT TAKING ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ON THE C I P UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ALSO ADD IN THAT IF THERE IS THE INCLINATION TO WANNA MOVE THAT UP.
I THINK THE EARLIEST WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT WOULD BE SIX.
UM, I'M THINKING SIX IS PROBABLY, YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR, OUR EARLIEST STEP EARLY.
BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA PRECLUDE ANYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT TO DO THAT.
WE JUST WANNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME.
IT'S GOING TO CARRY MORE WEIGHT WITH COUNCIL IF WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE CHIMING IN ON OKAY THIS, BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE FOUR HERE, WE COULD HAVE THREE ON ZOOM.
AND, AND THAT THAT'S WHY I WANTED, WELL HOPEFULLY I'M GONNA DOUBLE CHECK WITH LEGAL.
I DON'T WANNA SAY YES CUZ I KNOW THAT THIS IS A LARGER VOTE SO I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING.
UM, WELL IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL, I CAN BE HERE FOR UNDER THE FOUR FOR SURE.
I JUST WANNA GIVE SOME OPTIONS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE BRINGING TO COUNSEL AND THE FOLLOWING WEEKS IS GONNA BE AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE AND HAVE AS MANY EYES ON IT AS POSSIBLE.
AS LONG AS WE BREAK FOR DINNER, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
NO, THE CITY'S PAYING FOR DINNER IF WE'RE HERE FOR NOON.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DON'T HAVE JULIOS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR DINNER, THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR MY GO JUICE
WELL MY, THAT'S GONNA GET EXPENSIVE SO I WILL HAVE, I DO HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP EMAILS TO SEND OUT.
AS FAR AS THE CIP P I WILL BE WORKING ON THOSE TOMORROW AND LIKELY THURSDAY DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET ANSWERS BACK FROM UM, COUNSEL.
BUT OF COURSE THE ONE ABOUT YOU YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME WILL GO OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
AND THEN, UM, COMMISSIONER MORRIS, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I DID ALREADY CONTACT ANGEL AND IT TO MAKE SURE, I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WERE NOT GETTING THOSE EMAILS, BUT I WANNA MAKE, IT'S MY OLD, I THINK WHAT I IN THE PAST HAS GONE TO MY OUTLOOK EMAIL, WHICH IS
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STILL ACTIVE BUT STILL IF YOUR GMAIL IS GOT OUTLOOK OR MY GMAIL.SO THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME CUZ YOU HAVE IT NOW FORWARDED AND WE WILL, I'LL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT LINK IS IN THE NEXT EMAIL.
JIM, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON THOSE AS WELL.
UM, ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, SO I HAVE UM, WE'VE GOT THE REAPPOINTMENTS.
I'M GONNA SAY OF TWO MEMBERS POSSIBLY
BUT OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WE SHOULD BE DOING CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
I TYPICALLY JULY, I THINK I SAW THAT IN THE COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES THAT I SAID JUNE AND I'M LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK CUZ WE WERE ALWAYS LIKE, OH IS IT JUNE, JULY? YEAH, WHICH ONE? UM, BUT YEAH, ONCE WE HAVE THOSE APPOINT REAPPOINTMENTS AND THAT, YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT.
I, CUZ I SAW IT AND I WAS LIKE JUNE.
UM, I COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR JUNE, UH, JUNE, UH, JULY 11TH FOR THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST IDEA.
AND WE'LL HAVE THE CANVASSING DONE AND SWORN IN DONE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO WE'LL HAVE A FULL COUNCIL AND THE SEVENTH MONTH WITH A BANG AND A FULL, UH, NOMINATING COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR.
I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT OCCURS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
WELL, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS OR CAN WE WRAP THIS ONE UP AND CALL IT TONIGHT? THIS ONE UP.
SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT NINE 17 OH A MINUTE.
HOW ARE YOU? YES, THANK YOU ALL.