* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SURE IT'S ON THE ACTUAL SHEET. [00:00:01] WE SENT IT OUT, UH, AT SIX O'CLOCK. WE'LL START WITH THE CITY COUNCIL [1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER] WORK SESSION ON THURSDAY, JUNE 15TH, 2023. SERGEANT ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON. COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK. HERE. MAYOR STATUS HERE. MAYOR PROAM GORDON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINSEY. MCKINSEY AND COUNCILOR COLAR. ALRIGHT, FIRST ITEM [3.1. Development Services Processes (Ashley Bailey, Matt Rector)] 31, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PROCESSES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, FOR THE RECORD, ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. AND I'VE GOT MATT RECTOR, CITY AND ENGINEER HERE WITH ME AS WELL. WE WANTED TO GO OVER REALLY QUICK SOME OF THE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. SOME OF IT IS BASED ON HOUSE BILL 31 67, WHICH IS OTHERWISE CALLED THE SHOT CLOCK BILL. AND NOW THERE'S A NEW BILL THAT'S, UM, GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE AS OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS GOING TO ALSO THEN REFINE AND CHANGE SOME OF THE NOTIONS THAT WE ALL HAD FROM THE SHOT CLOCK BILL. SO FIRST OFF, THE SHOCK CLOCK REQUIRED. IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT IT REQUIRED ALL PERMIT TYPES TO FOLLOW A 30 DAY SCHEDULE WITH A 15 DAY SCHEDULE ON RESUBMITTAL, BUT YOU COULD ALSO HAVE APPLICANTS ELECT TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE MOSTLY HAD HAPPENED. UM, SO THOSE EMAILS HAD TO BE APPROVED APPRO CONDITIONS OR DENIED AND THAT'S WHY, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY SAW A LOT MORE APPLICATIONS BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR DENIAL. AND WE WOULD ALLOW FOR, NOT REALLY ALLOW, BUT WE WOULD ATTACH THE STAFF COMMENTS TO THE ITEM FOR DISAPPROVAL STATUTORILY SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM, SO NOW SUBSEQUENT APPLICATIONS STILL 15 DAY TIMEFRAME, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR TIMEFRAME. IN THE CITY OF HUS, WE DO REVIEWS WITHIN 15 BUSINESS DAYS FOR BUILD, UH, BUILDING PERMIT, SITE PLANS. PRETTY MUCH EVERY APPLICATION THAT COMES IN THAT IS A PLAT OR SITE PLAN OR PERMIT TYPE GETS SOME SORT OF ACTION WITHIN 15 DAYS, 15 BUSINESS DAYS. 15. OKAY, SO THREE WEEKS. YEAH. UM, SO THE ONE THING ON THE SHOP CLOCK THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS IT WAS DISALLOWING NEW COMMENTS. SO IF YOU HAD A SITE PLAN AT THAT TIME AND YOU MISSED A TREE, YOU COULD NOT THEN SAY, OH, WE MISSED A TREE ON THE SECOND ROUND REVIEW. IT WAS DONE BUT DIDN'T START OVER. NOPE. OR SO? NO. IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU DIDN'T, ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE STATUTE WAS WRITTEN, IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE COMMENT THE FIRST TIME WHEN THEY CAME BACK IN, YOU COULDN'T ADD THE COMMENT THE SECOND TIME YOU JUST MISSED IT AND YOU COULDN'T GO BACK AND TRY TO MAKE UP. BUT YOU'D HAVE TO DENY IT AND THEY'D HAVE TO START UNLESS YOU, UNLESS YOU TOOK IT AND STATUTORILY DENIED IT, THEN IT WAS LIKE STARTING OVER THAT WOULD THAT. AND SO A LOT OF CITIES, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK EVERYTHING TO THEIR P AND Z COMMISSION AND IF IT WASN'T APPROVED, IT WAS STATUTORILY DENIED SO THAT THEN THEY COULD GO BACK AND MAKE WHATEVER COMMENTS THEY WANTED TO THE SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH TIME. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. I HAVEN'T HEARD IT HERE SO MUCH, BUT PEOPLE WILL RUN SOMETHING IN ONE ROUND, SECOND ROUND AND THEN A COMMENT THAT HASN'T BEEN HIT FOR TWO ROUNDS, YOU'RE TRYING TO FINISH UP THE END. ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE NOW LIKE, OKAY, IT'S THIRD ONE NOW I'M GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO THE PLANS. THEN THEY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMENTS. WHEREAS THE FIRST ROUND IN SOME AREAS IT JUST GETS SKIPPED BECAUSE, WELL, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT NEXT TIME, SO I WON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. AND SOME OF IT, I THINK NOW IF WE'RE GETTING ANY LIGHT COMMENTS, I THINK IT'S CUZ WE HAVE, UM, TRUE ENGINEERING STAFF IN IN-HOUSE. AND SO SOMETIMES WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT OCCUR JUST ON SOME CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THINGS OF, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS NOTE WASN'T ON THERE. MAKE SURE YOU'RE ADDING THAT. WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN REALLY NIMBLE IN WORKING WITH US, SO WE HAVEN'T ALSO HEARD SOME OF THOSE SAME COMPLAINTS. UM, BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT'S, ONCE IT'S DEEMED COMPLETE, YOU'RE IN. THEN WE START OUR TECHNICAL REVIEW AND THEN AS SOON AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS, AND WE ACTUALLY DID CHANGE A LOT OF OUR PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE SHOT CLOCK BILL. NOW THAT HOUSE BILL 36 99, UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. AND WE HEARD ABOUT SOME OF IT AT THE TML CONFERENCE THIS MORNING, UM, THAT NOW THEY ARE TWEAKING THE SHOT CLOCK BELL JUST A LITTLE BIT. CAN I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? SO 36 99 UM, CLARIFIES A FEW POINTS. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ANYTHING BUT PLATS NOW, WHICH IS AMAZING. SO IF WE MISS A TREE ON A SITE PLAN, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE COVERED. WE WILL STILL REVIEW EVERYTHING WHEN THAT 15 BUSINESS DAY TIMEFRAME AS WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT PROCESS. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT'S KIND OF COOL, WHICH IS NOT OUR UDC, SO IT MAY BE UPCOMING, THEN I'LL COME TALK TO YOU AND WELL PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL ABOUT IT IS THAT PLATS OF ALL TYPES CAN NOW BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. THAT'S WHY I HAVE IF ALLOWED LOCALLY. I THINK ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL WITH THAT, AND I DISCUSSED IT REALLY BRIEFLY WITH DOTTY TODAY, WAS MAYBE IF WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, IT WOULD BE GOOD THEN TO ALLOW [00:05:01] FOR, UM, STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THOSE PLATS INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT STATUTORILY. WE'VE ONLY HAD THAT HAPPEN ONE TIME IN THE FIVE YEARS THEY'VE BEEN HERE. UH, BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING IT STATUTORILY APPROVED, IT MIGHT BE NICE JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE STAFF APPROVE. THERE ARE OTHER PLAT TYPES PRIOR TO THIS HOUSE BILL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY AND THOSE ARE AMENDING AND MINORS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT EITHER. BUT AMENDING AND MINORS, THOSE ARE PRETTY BASIC PLATS. YOU'RE EITHER SHIFTING A LOT LINE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING MINOR, UM, MINOR THOUGHTS OR FOUR LOSS OR LESS AND NO PUBLIC EXTENSION IMPROVEMENTS. SO ASHLEY, WHAT WHAT'S THE DISCRETION ON, ON PLA APPROVAL? BECAUSE IF, IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN AREN'T YOU, AREN'T YOU OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT? RIGHT. SO STATUTORILY, IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, WE STILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT THE USE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. TO ME, THE ARGUMENT FOR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WOULD BE WHY ARE WE TAKING STUFF TO A BOARD TO HAVE TO RUBBER STAMP AND APPROVE WHENEVER THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO HAVE TO APPROVE IT? IF IT, IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU WOULD ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT IN MY MIND. RIGHT. AND THAT ALSO WOULD HELP CUZ RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF, UH, SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS THAT HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN A MONTH JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN GETTING BUSIER. CAN I SAY ONE THING TO THAT? I I AGREE WITH YOU. WE'VE SAID IT HAS TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE STATUTORY APPROVED AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT EVEN, BUT IT'S LET PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC COME UP AND TALK, EVEN IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT AT LEAST HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT VERSUS BEING ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE SECOND IS IF THEY, IF THE BOARD IS VERY VOCAL ABOUT SOMETHING, YES, THEY HAVE TO LET THAT WITH THROUGH, BUT NOW IT'S GIVEN NOTICE PUBLICLY THAT THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GONNA CATCH IT EARLIER SO IT WON'T GO THROUGH FOR THOSE DEVELOPERS AND STUFF. WELL, SO WELL, WELL YOU CAN'T, WELL I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THERE IS VALUE TO THAT, BUT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO MODIFY YOUR RULES IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO CATCH IT SOONER AND NOT LET IT GO THROUGH. YEAH. AS LONG. SO TO THAT POINT, THE VALUE OF IT GOING BEFORE THE BOARD WOULD BE, OH, WE'RE SEEING THIS PATTERN THAT WE'RE NOT LIKING. BUT, BUT GENERALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S SIX, YOU CAN'T NOT APPROVE THE PLANET. YOU CAN'T NOT APPROVE IT. YOU CAN NOT LIKE IT AND GO CHANGE THE RULES, BUT THE RULES. BUT IF YOU'RE DOING IT, SO I GUESS TO, TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK'S POINT, IF IF STAFF IS JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVING THEM, THEN WHO'S EVER QUESTIONING WHETHER THE RULES ARE APPROPRIATE OR NOT? THAT'S MY POINT. THAT'S, AND I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE, I KNOW PROBABLY'S NOT SAYING IT EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RIGHT. I DID PROBABLY STILL HAVE LIKE A REPORT HERE ARE THE PLAS THAT WERE APPROVED. YEAH. HERE'S, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT TIME, THAT KIND OF STUFF. YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD END UP BEING IN A COMPLETE VACUUM. I MEAN THAT'S WHY I LOOKED AT IT LIKE, WELL, IF WE'RE NOT MEETING QUORUM, MAYBE THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR A LOT OF 'EM. THE ONLY ONE I THINK AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE STILL REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE ON PRELIMINARIES, THOSE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AT LEAST AS OUR RULES ARE WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. SO THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME PLAT TYPES THAT WOULD GO FORWARD FOR A FULL PUBLIC HEARING. UM, BECAUSE I, I AGREE. I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND START EDUCATING, UM, NOT JUST AT ZONING, BUT THEN EXPLAIN WHY. I MEAN CERTAINLY I, I ALSO DON'T LIKE WHEN WE SEND OUT NOTICES AND IT'S ALMOST REBEL ROUSING AND WE GET 'EM IN, THEY'RE REALLY UPSET ABOUT THE LAND USE AND WE'RE LIKE, AND WE ALSO CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. I'M THINKING MORE SO ALONG THE LINES OF WHEN WE HAD ALL THE STAR RANCH THINGS COME THROUGH. SO, SO YOU'RE POO-POOING ON MY EFFICIENCY CLAIM? NO, I REALLY LIKE THE EFFICIENCY. I THINK IT COULD WORK, BUT I THINK PRELIMS STILL HAVE TO GO FORWARD. PRELIMS DO STILL HAVE TO GO. PRELIMS WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO, BUT THEN AFTER THAT, IF FINAL, IF A FINAL PLAN MATCHES, A PRELIM FINAL PLAN DOESN'T GO TO COUNCIL ANYMORE EITHER. RIGHT? RIGHT. I MEAN, AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S LIKE, THEN JUST LET STAFF SIGN OFF ON IT BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN REDUCE WHAT WE HAVE JUST ON A CONSENT AGENDA ON A P NZ. IT WOULD JUST BE STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVE THIS, HERE'S WHAT YOU'VE HAD AND WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THE PACKET INSTEAD. UM, I JUST ASKED FOR SOME SORT OF APPEAL PROCESS. IF SOMEONE FEELS LIKE THE SCREWS ARE BEING LAID TO THE, THEY HAVE ONES, IT'S CALLED THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLA BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND THINGS THAT CAN BE PUT ON THERE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOOD, BUT HOW DO WE KNOW THREE YEARS FROM NOW SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE FORCED THINGS AND HAVEN'T BEEN FORCED ON THAT MAYBE AREN'T IN OUR UDC. EXACTLY. AND IF IT'S LIKE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THAT JUST TO GET, YOU KNOW, AN APPROVAL PROCESS WITH STAFF, THERE OUGHT TO BE A WAY FOR LISA TO BE ABLE TO SAY, LOOK, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE MY CHANCES IN FRONT OF P AND Z BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE REASONABLE THAN STAFF IS TODAY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT ACTUALLY IS IN THE HOUSE BILL THAT THERE IS, YEAH, THERE'S A APPEAL PROCESS. SO IF IT GOT DENIED, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY THEN TO GO BACK AND APPEAL TO A BOARD. AND I THINK STATE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS P AND Z BOARD CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THAT APPEAL PROCESS. UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THAT PLATS, MIDDLE CALENDARS HAVE TO BE POSTED. WE ALREADY DO THAT. SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO THERE. UM, AND THEN ALSO AFTER THE APPLICATION IS DEEMED COMPLETE, AGAIN, STAFF WILL REVIEW AND WE'LL BEGIN OUR TECHNICAL REVIEW. UH, SO THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST CHANGES. THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE, BUT I THINK WITH CHAPTER [00:10:01] TWO 12 AND STATE LAW, IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT US. AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE ACTUALLY MEET BETWEEN 31 67 AND 36 99. WE WERE ALREADY LEADING WHAT THE STATE LAW SAID. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE TOO MANY CHANGES. UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE GONNA START DOING, UM, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S SUBMITTED UNDER THE OLD SHOT CLOCK OR EVEN THIS NEW 36, UM, 99, IS THAT IF YOU ARE NOT WAIVING THAT TO YOUR 30 DAY REVIEW THAT'S STATUTORILY APPROVED, UM, YOU ONLY SUBMIT ONE DAY A MONTH, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTARILY SUBMIT A WAIVER. THANK YOU, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. UM, THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT ON ANY MONDAY BY NOON. SO THEN THAT'LL THEN WOULD ALLOW THEM KIND OF, UH, WITH MR. HERB'S EFFICIENCY COMMENT, WE WOULD THEN START ALLOWING WITH A WAIVER THAT, UH, BY NEW, SO HE WOULD, UH, EVERY MONDAY COULD BECOME A SMALL DATE AND THAT WOULDN'T JUST BE FOR PLOTS, BUT THAT WE'LL ALSO DO THAT FOR SITE PLANS SO THAT INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING SITE PLANS RIGHT NOW CAN COME IN WHENEVER THEY WANT, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT JUST SO I CAN HAVE ALL STAFF ON SITE, SINCE WE'RE DOING SOME REMOTE WORK TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA ALL SIT DOWN, THEY'RE ALL IN BY NOON. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE COMPLETENESS. WE KNOW WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S REJECTED, WHAT'S MISSING AN ITEM SO THEY CAN HAVE SOME TIME TO HOPEFULLY COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, I THINK IS GONNA BE THOSE MONDAY REVIEWS. THE THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS BECAUSE, UM, HOW DO I PUT THIS? BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THE ENGINEERING STUFF IN THE CITY IN THE PAST HAS BEEN HIT OR MISS, PUT IT THAT WAY. YEAH. WITH US . UM, SO, UH, AND BECAUSE I'M DOING ALL THE REVIEWS BY MYSELF ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER STUFF, UH, I ASKED ASHLEY IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A MORE CONSISTENT SCHEDULE AND BE MORE THOROUGH ON MAKING SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE SUBMIT TO US THAT IT'S A COMPLETE SUBMITTAL, THAT WAY I'M NOT WASTING A BUNCH OF TIME LOOKING THROUGH SOMETHING ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT IT WAS AN INCOMPLETE SUBMITTAL. AND I'VE WASTED HOURS OF MY DAY GOING THROUGH A REVIEW JUST TO SAY, OKAY, DENIED BECAUSE IT'S INCOMPLETE, START OVER. UM, AND SO WE ARE KIND OF WORKING TOGETHER TO STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS. UM, AND IN THE INTEREST OF BEING FULLY TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYBODY, WE'RE LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T GET IT IN BY THIS TIME ON THIS DAY, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT. YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT MIDDLE DAY OPERATE LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY. RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE DOING THAT ALREADY. NO, WE WE'VE BEEN VERY, WE'VE BEEN SOMEBODY'S ARM ENOUGH. YEAH, IT'S OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN VERY LENIENT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE, I MEAN HONESTLY THE LAST FIVE YEARS MONEY ON CERTAIN DAYS , IT'S A NON-ISSUE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK. YEAH. FOR US, I MEAN AT LEAST THIS WAY, IF THERE WAS THE WAIVER, ESPECIALLY FOR PLATS, THIS DOES ALLOW THEM TO NOT HAVE TO WAIT A FULL MONTH. BUT FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANNA WAIVE THAT, THEN THEY WILL BE WAITING THE FULL MONTH. BUT WE WILL HAVE THE ALTERNATE PROCESS FOR THEM STILL. AND THEN 30 HOUSE BILL, 36 99 ACTUALLY, UM, REITERATES THAT. SO EVERYTHING WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN EVERY MONDAY. AND NOW THAT SITE PLANS DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW SHOP CLOCK BILL, THAT'LL JUST BE A STANDARD THAT EVERY MONDAY BY NOON YOU CAN SUBMIT. BUT THAT ALSO THEN ALLOWS STAFF TO KIND OF CARVE OUT TIME AND NOT JUST HAVE THEM PEPPERED TO US ALL WEEK LONG THAT WE JUST KNOW, OKAY, BY NOON ON MONDAYS WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE SUBMITTALS IN. WE, WE CAN DEDICATE AN HOUR THAT AFTERNOON TO GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AT ONCE AND SAYING WHO'S REJECTED, WHO'S INCOMPLETE, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND REALLY STREAMLINING THAT AND JUST SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE INCOMPLETE. YOU CAN COME BACK NEXT WEEK. LET'S TRY AGAIN. UH, THIS WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE OR ON ZONING. WE HAVE ITS OWN, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SMELL DATES, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH THAT ON THE ZONING ONLY BECAUSE ZONING WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE REST OF IT, WE, WE ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL ON AND THAT DOES REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT, UM, I THINK MORE COORDINATION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TEAM. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I JUST WANNA SHOW THE CALENDAR. THIS IS WHAT ONE OF OUR CALENDARS RIGHT NOW LOOKS LIKE. WE HAVE ALL OF THESE ONLINE ALREADY. UH, WE COLOR CODE FOR CITY COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, YOUR ZONING APPLICATION DATE AND THE NEXT CITY HOLIDAYS ARE IN GRAY. SO THIS IS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. WE ACTUALLY BRING THOSE TO P AND Z, UM, USUALLY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF THE YEAR PRIOR AND GET THOSE ONLINE. UM, SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS OUR APPLICATION. YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE A WHOLE SCHEDULE ON THE SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, TOTAL REVIEW DAYS, UM, FOR THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO GET TO THE UM, P AND Z. SO IF EVERYTHING'S COMPLETE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A PLAT THROUGH WITHIN 30 DAYS IF YOU CAN UM, SUBMIT QUICKLY ENOUGH WITH STAFF REVIEW TIME, GETTING THAT BACK TO THE APPLICANT. WE HAVE SOME APPLICANTS THAT ARE VERY MOTIVATED WITH THEIR ENGINEERING TEAMS AND THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE A 30 DAY TIMELINE. AND SO UPCOMING IS THE NEXT SLIDE. THE MAIN THING IS, UM, IT'S NOT COVERED IN THE CHARTER OR THE UDC, BUT WE MAY END UP NEEDING TO MOVE TO TWO [00:15:01] PLANNINGS AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS PER MONTH. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A BIGGER DISCUSSION, UM, WITH THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THAT UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO CODIFYING SOME OF OUR PROCESSES IN THERE, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH LEGAL THAT THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE TO HAVE OUR PROCESSES CODIFIED IN UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODES. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT, WHICH THEN WE COULD THEN DISCUSS RIGHT NOW OUR P AND Z SECTION OF THE UDC SAYS SEE THE CHARTER. UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA MESS WITH NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR WHEN THEY'RE APPOINTED, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT MIGHT BE, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THESE MEETINGS AND HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA BE, UH, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH OUR MEETINGS IF WE CAN GET TO TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK ALL YEAR WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. I THINK JULY WILL BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WE DON'T. UM, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAUSE BECAUSE OF THE 4TH OF JULY AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR TWO MEETINGS OF THE MONTH. UM, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE FROM US COMING UP IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE REDOING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL AS WRITING OUR OWN ENGINEERING. UM, AND THOSE THINGS WERE ALREADY FUNDED AND IT REALLY ALLOWS FOR THE UDC OR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BE IN LINE WITH THE HU OUR 2040. BUT IT ALSO IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT HU IS PROVIDING SOME DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR HIS RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOALS OF CITY COUNCIL. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME MORE INNOVATIVE THINGS IN THERE. YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME WATER SAVING MEASURES. UH, WE'RE REALLY GONNA TRY TO NOT JUST BE CUTTING EDGE FOR THE SAKE OF IT, BUT GIVING THE RESIDENTS BACK WHAT WE'VE HEARD OF. WE'VE, I MEAN STAFF SEES IT TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY LIKES ALL THE DRIVE-THROUGHS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO MAYBE GIVING SOME ALTERNATE STANDARDS MAYBE DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A PROCESS. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT IF YOU WANNA DRIVE THROUGH, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. SO IT'S STILL A WALKABLE COMMERCIAL CENTER. I THINK WE SAW THAT WITH THE SCHMITZ FIELDS P U D AT THE LAST CASTLE MEETING. SO THINGS LIKE THAT. OR EVEN THE 50% LUMINOSITY AT NIGHT, THINGS OF THOSE OF THAT CLIENT MIGHT ACTUALLY END UP BEING IN THE CODE BY ITSELF. UH, SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT'LL COME FORWARD IN JULY. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA START WORKING ON THE UDC WITH UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND A FEW OTHERS THAT WE HAVE. AND PART OF THAT PROCESS IS WE WILL BE CREATING HUDDLES FIRST. STANDALONE ENGINEERING STANDALONE. WHAT WAS THAT ENGINEERING MANUAL WE DON'T HAVE. SO THE ONE THING WHEN YOU SAID ABOUT GOING TO TWO MEETINGS, WHATEVER, THE ONLY QUESTION, CAUSE WE ARE GONNA BE HAVING A CHARTER REVIEW AS PART OF LEGAL REQUIRED, PROBABLY STARTING THAT AUGUST AS A COMMITTEE. IF THERE IS SOMETHING WHERE IT SAYS ALWAYS ONE MEETING AND THEN YOU CAN ONLY HAVE YOUR SECOND ONE AS A SPECIAL MEETING. IF WE NEED TO GET THE CHARTER CHANGED TO SAY ONE, AT LEAST ONE MEETING A MONTH. YES. SO THEN THAT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY THEN MAKE THEM MANLY, FIXED REGULAR MEETINGS TWICE A MONTH UNTIL THEY'RE NOT NEEDED. CAUSE THE CITY'S STILL GROWING. I IMAGINE YOU'RE PROBABLY, ONCE YOU HIT A THRESHOLD OF TWO, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA STAY A THRESHOLD OF TWO WOULD BE MY GUESS. BUT IF NOT, I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT THERE. YOU ALWAYS WILL HAVE TWO. BUT MAYBE WE COULD GET, YOU COULD GET LEGAL IF THAT'S SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL IN SPECIAL MEETINGS BUT RIGHT. I MEAN, SO THAT'D BE THE ONE TWEAK I WOULD SAY IF THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE. YEAH, I'D HAVE TO SCRUB THE CHARTER CUZ I KNOW IN LOOKING AT IT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I DIDN'T SEE WHERE WE SAID WE HAD TO HAVE OR FIRST TUESDAYS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FIRST TUESDAYS, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN IT WRITTEN DOWN OF WHY I THINK IT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT WORKS OUT THE, THE BEST. BUT CERTAINLY I KNOW NEXT TUESDAY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MEETINGS OCCURRING ON THE SAME DAY. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH ANYBODY ELSE. BUT I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO GO TO TWO JUST BECAUSE THAT 15 DAY RULE FOR PLATS HAS BEEN REITERATED. WE'VE NORMALLY BEEN ABLE TO, WELL WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET IT SINCE THE SHOT CLOCK BILL WENT IN BECAUSE NO ONE HAS SUBMITTED SO SOON THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CALL ANOTHER MEETING OR THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE A REGULAR, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING ANYWAY. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ISSUE. BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T, I DON'T REALLY WANT THE, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ANYTHING BEING STATUTORILY APPROVED IF IT SHOULDN'T BE WHILE I'M HERE. JUST LIKE IT. SO THAT'S IT. WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT WE WANNA JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, SO YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY SEE SOME CHANGES ONLINE TO OUR PACKETS AND THEN OUR SUBMITTAL CALENDARS GOING TO BE AND Z UM, JUST TO REITERATE THAT, IT'S GOING TO GO TO A EVERY MONDAY FOR SITE PLANS FOR SURE. UM, AND THEN FOR PLATS IT'LL BE IF THEY DO THE WAIVER OF THE SHOP FOR THE REVISED SHOP BILL. AND SPEAKING OF UDC CHANGES WITH REGARD TO PLATS, CAN WE TAKE A HARD LOOK AT GETTING RID OF THE PVS THE WAY WE HAVE 'EM SET UP? ABSOLUTELY. WOW. WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY. THAT'S WEIRD. 10 OR 15 FOOT ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF A MAJOR ROAD. BUT LIKE EVERY HOMEOWNER, WHEN WE CIRCLE EVERY SINGLE LOT WHEN YOU'VE GOT, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HAVING THE ONE IN THE FRONT, BUT WE DON'T NEED EM IN THE BACK IF THEY, IS THAT WHAT YOU KINDA MEAN? YEAH, I MEAN LIKE I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE MY WHOLE BACKYARD NOT JUST ABSOLUTELY UP TO FIVE FEET HERE AND UP TO 10 FEET HERE. AND IF THE UTILITY DOES WANT TO COME THROUGH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S LIKE ANY OTHER ISSUE. THEY CAN EITHER COME TO THE FRONT OF THE ROAD OR TO THE BACK, BUT BASED ON THIS WHOLE FIBER THING THAT I'M SEEING, THE WAY [00:20:01] I'M UNDERSTANDING IT, THEY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST COMPLETELY TEAR UP EVERYBODY'S BACKYARD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AS LONG AS THEY STAY IN THIS 10 FEET ON MY SIDE AND 10 FEET ON THEIRS AND I'M GOING, YEAH, I DON'T THINK I EVER WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. UM, SO SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT JAMES AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IS UH, BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE IS THAT HE'S LEANING TOWARDS THE IDEA OF USING MUNICIPAL UTILITY EASEMENTS. DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? VERSUS PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS AND, AND I'M STILL GETTING UP TO SPEED A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT BASICALLY FORCES LEGAL BASICALLY. BUT GO AHEAD. BASICALLY FORCE ALL THOSE UTILITY COMPANIES TO COME TO US FOR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THOSE EASEMENTS RATHER THAN THEM JUST DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE IT'S A P U E AND THEY'RE A PUBLIC UTILITY. YEAH. THAT'S ONLY CITY I KNOW. YOU CAN JUST DROP ANYTHING YOU WANT ANYWHERE. THE OTHER PLA QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN IT COMES TO NEIGHBORHOODS, IF WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF REQUIREMENT THAT THERE'S GOTTA BE A MINIMUM THAT THE HOA IS GONNA HAVE AROUND WHATEVER IT IS AROUND THE WALLS AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU ABSOLUTELY. UM, ONE EXAMPLE IS LIKE, UM, EMORY FARMS THE WALL ALONG BACK RIGHT UP TO COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE HOA REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY LAND OVER THERE. BUT AT TIMES WHEN THAT WALL STARTS TO FAIL, PEOPLE COME TO THE HOA, HOA SAYS IT'S A CITY, THE CITY SAYS NO, IT'S A COUNTY AND YOU'RE THE HOMEOWNER AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WE CAN FIX A LOT OF THESE. THERE'S THAT OTHER ONE, I FORGOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SOMETHING ABOUT MOWING. WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT? YEAH, GLENWOOD HAS THE ISSUE WHERE THEY WERE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REVIEWING THAT ISSUE WAS THAT THE BUILDER AT THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS ALL PLATTED WAS TRYING TO KEEP THE, OR ENCAPSULATE THE THEN FLOODPLAIN AWAY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS. MM-HMM. SO THAT THEY WEREN'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FLOODPLAIN ON THEIR LOTS BECAUSE COTTONWOOD CREEK IS RIGHT BEHIND THEM. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S SOME SPACES WHERE THE LOT GOES TO A POINT AND IT'S MAYBE A FOOT WIDE AND THEY'RE NOT. AND IT WAS DEDICATED AS A GREEN BELT AND A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND A P U E AND OPEN SPACE. I THINK THERE WAS FOUR LABELS ON IT THAT THEY CAN'T GET DOWN THERE TO MOW OR THEY'RE NOT GETTING DOWN THERE TO MOW AND THEN IT DIRECTLY IS ADJACENT TO ANOTHER HOME BUILDER THAT THEN ESSENTIALLY OWNS ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THEM. RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE AND JUST HAVE SOME OF OUR STUFF LAID OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I CAN SAY IN 2015 I'M VERY SURPRISED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A RIPARIAN SETBACK ON THAT CUZ TYPICALLY FOR COTTONWOOD CREEK I THINK IT WOULD'VE A 75 FOOT SETBACK. SO I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THAT PLAT CUZ RIPARIAN SETBACKS I BELIEVE WERE IN THE ORIGINAL 2011 UDC. UM, UNLESS GLENWOOD ITSELF WAS APPROVED BEFORE 2011 AND THAT WAS JUST THE LATEST PLAT THAT WAS RECORDED. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT DATE. UM, BUT CERTAINLY TO MAKE SURE, ONE THING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS SO I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT ANYMORE. I THINK THAT WE HAVE, IF IT'S GONNA BE OPEN SPACE, IT NEEDS TO BE USABLE AMENITIZED OPEN SPACE. NOT JUST OPEN SPACE FOR THE SAKE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S DRAINAGE AND THEN POSSIBLY DEDICATED TO THE CITY LATER. WHERE THEN IT'S EVEN IN ISSUE FOR US TRYING TO DO THAT. YEAH. SOMEWHERE TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES. EVEN EMERY FIELD DRIVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN LIVO CONNECTS TO THAT, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD, THE HOA DOES IT, BUT THE HOA DOESN'T OWN ANY OF THAT LAND. IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY PRIVATE PEOPLE. BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU BUILD ALL THESE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE, THE LOT LINES ARE DETERMINED VERSUS THE PLANS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE OLD DAYS WE JUST WEREN'T CATCHING STUFF. AND SO IF WE PUT ON, MY THOUGHT IS IF WE PUT ALL ON STANDARDS THEN WE'LL HAVE A MORE STRUCTURED APPROACH TO WHERE YOU GUYS WON'T HAVE TO BUILD PROBLEMS LIKE YOU'RE DOING NOW 10 YEARS FROM NOW. AND HOPEFULLY, I MEAN I THINK WHEN WE KNOW BETTER, WE DO BETTER. CUZ I THINK THERE'S EVEN OLDER PARTS OF HUTTO WHERE WE ONLY DID SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET WHEN THAT STILL WASN'T THE NORM AND THE REST OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY. UM, SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY AND WE'RE THINKING AHEAD AND WE'RE DOING SOME OF THOSE, I MEAN WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL RAIN GARDENS AND ZERO ESCAPING AND, AND DOING SOME WATER SAVING MEASURES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE. AND SO TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT FOR NOT ONLY RESIDENTIAL BUT ALSO FOR COMMERCIAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE TERRA LIKE MY WHOLE BACKYARD. I WANNA TAKE FIVE OAK OUTTA STREET TREES. CAUSE I DON'T THINK STREET. OH NO I, I SAY YEAH, I MEAN I DON'T THE CITY'S NOT STOPPING YOU FROM DOING IT. NO, BUT I'M SAYING BUT WE COULD, YEAH WE COULD TO SAY THAT HEY THIS WOULD BE A GOOD, THAT'D BE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT CAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT WATERING. SO WE HAVE OPTIONS. SO UM, CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY COMMENTARY OR UM, IDEAS. AND THEN WE WILL BRING FORWARD, UM, WE'VE GOT A MEETING TOMORROW MORNING AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT IN JULY. UM, ONCE WE KNOW ALL, WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ENGINEERING MANUAL, WHICH WILL BE LEAST NEITHER THE CHARTER NOR THE CODE COORDINATES SPECIFIES HOW OFTEN THE YOU USED TO MEET. I DIDN'T SEE IT BUT I'VE ALSO, I DIDN'T JUST READ IT, I READ IT A FEW MONTHS AGO. . YEAH WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS OF YOU KNOW, AM WHAT AM I ALLOWED? [00:25:01] CAUSE I HAD A QUESTION EVEN OF ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, IS THERE SOMETHING I'M NOT ALLOWED TO PUT ON THERE? UM, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING SPECIAL CALL THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING OR IF IT'S A SUPER MAJORITY VERSUS JUST UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE A QUO GOING? AND IT'S KINDA THAT ZBA THING OF WE DON'T HAVE A THIRD OF A PERSON SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE FULL PERSON. MM-HMM . WELL IF YOU MAKE THE CHANGE THEN YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, I'LL TELL YOU REAL QUICK. YEAH. AS SOON AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. I'D RATHER HAVE THOSE, THOSE ISSUES DEALT WITH PRIOR. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROCESSES TO SPEED THINGS UP OR IS THERE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT, LIKE I ALWAYS SAW PLANTS HERE WERE LITTLE QUICK. UM, BECAUSE OTHER CITIES GOTTA DO LIKE A FLOOD STUDY AND YOU GOTTA DO ALL THESE STEPS AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES YOU FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS JUST TO GET TO APPLY. ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO PROCESS-WISE THAT MAKES IT EASIER ON THE BACKSIDE? SO TECHNICALLY BY THE WAY, THE CODE IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW HOW WAS SUPPOSED TO REQUIRE THE TIA AND THE DRAINAGE STUDY BEFORE THE FINAL PLAT. BUT UM, THAT WAS LITTLE WILLY-NILLY BEFORE MATT CAME BACK. YEAH. AND SO, UM, BUT THE NEW BILL SAYS WE CAN'T UM, DO THE TIAS OR ANY STUDIES WITH PLATS. IT'LL JUST BE DONE PRIOR. SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE SAY IS GIVE US THE APPROVAL SO IT'S DONE PRIOR AND WE JUST SAY GIVE US A COPY OF THE APPROVED DOCUMENT. YEAH. IT MIGHT BE WITH PRELIMINARY TIAS. I LOVE GETTING 'EM WITH ZONING WHEN WE CAN. I THINK SOMETIMES TAS ARE A LITTLE BIT, WE'LL HAVE TO JUST GET PEOPLE USED TO. THE REASON WHY THEY HAD BEEN WAIVED IN THE PAST BY A A SEPARATE CITY ENGINEER WAS PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY FINAL USE IS GONNA BE ON THIS COMMERCIAL CORNER. AND SO WHAT MATT AND I TALKED ABOUT IS WELL THEN DO THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST TRAFFIC GENERATOR. WE ACTUALLY LIE AND SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO HERE. AND THEN YOU GET WAD AND THEN YOU WOULD SEE THE PROBLEM. SO, WELL, SO IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER I GOT HERE. WE HAD THE A DEVELOPER ACTUALLY THEIR ENGINEER ARGUE, WELL THIS IS A COMMERCIAL LOT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE PUT THERE SO WE JUST WANT TO PARCEL THAT OUT AND SAVE THAT FOR A DIFFERENT TIA LATER. AND I SAID, WELL WAIT A MINUTE. IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY THEN THIS PARCEL OVER HERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ANALYZE ISN'T GONNA MEET THE REQUIREMENT. AND THEN THAT PARCEL OVER THERE BY ITSELF ISN'T GONNA MEET THE REQUIREMENT. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN YOU PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE. AND THEY, YEAH. AND THEY SAID, WELL HOW DO, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO ASSUME? AND I SAID, WHAT DID YOU ZONE IT FOR? USE THE HIGHEST DENSITY ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING AND GO FROM THERE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR TIA BASED ON IT AMAZED ME THAT PEOPLE COME AND TALK TO YOU GUYS LIKE I'M GONNA DEVELOP THIS LAND, I BOUGHT THIS LAND AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO BUT I WANNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE PROCESSES AND THEN I'M GONNA FIGURE OUT WHAT I'M GONNA DO. WHEN YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THEY DIDN'T PUT LAND ON A CONTRACT WITHOUT AN IDEA OR WELL NO. CAUSE THEY HAD TO DO THEIR PROGRAM RAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR NUMBERS WAS PENCILED OUT. YEAH, THAT'S MAKES YEAH, WE'RE PUSHING BACK. THAT'S A, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING . WELL THE ONLY TIMES I HEAR OF A COMPLAIN I'M LIKE, UH, IT'S EASIER HERE THAN SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO IF I YOU I'D STOP, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU TO DO. WELL CERTAINLY EVEN ON SOME OF OUR, THE TIA A THINGS THAT WE'RE, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SUN IN THE MOVE, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOMETHING REASONABLE. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S BEEN GREAT. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, IF THEY HAVEN'T GOT THEIR TIA A APPROVED AT PLAT OR THEY HAVEN'T GOT THEIR DRAINAGE STUDY APPROVED AT PLAT, I'M JUST LIKE, OKAY, I'M WORKING WITH YOU. I'LL HELP YOU GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, GIVE ME YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT, I'M GONNA REVIEW IT, I'LL MAKE COMMENTS AND THEN WE WILL CONDITION YOU YOUR PLAT THAT YOUR SITE PLAN AND YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN CANNOT BE APPROVED UNTIL YOUR DRAINAGE REPORT IS FINALLY APPROVED AND YOUR TIA IS FINALLY APPROVED. NOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH THE YEAH, HIS SITE PLANS ARE NOT, IT'S JUST WELL HE'S DOING IT AT PLAT THOUGH. HE'S DOING A NOTE AT PLAT. RIGHT? WELL I'M PUTTING A CONDITION ON THEIR PLAT THAT THEIR SITE PLAN IN THEIR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE CAN'T BE APPROVED UNTIL THEIR DRAINAGE REPORT IS SERVED IS BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION PLAN SITE PLANS ARE OUTSIDE THAT BIG BILL. JUST MAKE A CONDITION OF THAT THAT THEY HAVE. AND I ALSO THINK IS THERE STILL PROTECTION OR TWO, ONE OF TWO 12 THAT IT'S AN ADEQUATE SERVICE LEVEL SO WE COULD STILL FALL BACK TO ANOTHER CODE. EVEN THE HOSPITAL'S THERE. I DON'T THINK IT NAMES IT, BUT YEAH. OF ADEQUATE SERVICE OF AT LEAST FOR DRAINAGE OF DO WE HAVE ADEQUATE DRAINAGE FACILITIES FOR YOU? YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT. AND THAT WOULD JUST BE FURTHER CHECK. SO THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD'VE THERE, AND I'LL GET, I'LL GET WITH YOU TO SEE TO WORK THROUGH THIS IS IF THEY'RE DEVELOPING ON OR ADJACENT TO FLOODPLAIN, WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE MODELED THAT FLOODPLAIN TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S HOMES AND LIVES. AND SO, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE REFLECTED AT THE PLAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DELINEATE THAT DRAIN EASEMENT. SO PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE BILLS AREN'T THE PEOPLE THAT THAT ACTUALLY DOING DEVELOPED WORK. SO THEY THINK IT'S GOOD AND THEN YOU GUYS LOOK AT IT AND PROBABLY GO, WELL HOW THE HELL DOES THIS WORK? SO IT IS THE STORMWATER FLOOD PLAIN, IS THAT SEPARATE? WELL, [00:30:01] CAUSE NOT EVERYTHING HAS A FLOODPLAIN IN IT, BUT EVERYTHING HAS A DRAINAGE REPORT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE INCREASING RUNOFF. AND SO I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT OVERWHELMING OUR SYSTEM OR OVERWHELMING NEIGHBORS. AND THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THEIR DRAINAGE REPORT. BUT SO LIKE THAT I CAN SEE WHY WE COULD PUSH THAT OFF AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PEOPLE TO PUSH IT OFF FURTHER. BUT IF IT'S A FLOOD STUDY FOR AN ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE ON COTTONWOOD CREEK OR MUSTANG CREEK OR WHATEVER, LIKE BY OUR FLOOD PROTECTION ORDINANCE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND PROPERTY. SO THAT IS THE FLOOD ORDINANCE. IT'D BE OUTSIDE THE FLOODING. SO WHAT SHE, WHAT THE TAKEAWAY WE GOT WAS DON'T PUT IT IN THE PLATING PROCESS. TAKE YOUR STUDIES OR WHATEVER GONNA REQUIRE IT, PUT IT IN SOMEPLACE ELSE. OKAY. OR SEE WHAT AUSTIN DOES CUZ AUSTIN WILL HEAR THE LAW AND THEN SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN EVEN MORE AND FIGURE OUT HOW ALL THE LOOPHOLES AND YOU CAN PICK WHICH ONES YOU WANT. OR LIKE, OOH, LOOK WHAT, WHAT'D THEY DO. DON'T DO THAT MATT. IS THIS ALL GONNA BE WRITTEN OUT? AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU'RE CREATING KIND OF LIKE A, LIKE A BIBLE ENGINEERING MANUAL SIR. IS THIS ALL GONNA BE WRITTEN OUT IN THAT OR LIKE ASPECTS OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING GONNA BE WRITTEN OUT? SO IT'S MORE OF A STREAMLINED PROCESS WHENEVER SOMEONE DELIVERS TO YOU? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF A CASE BY CASE BASIS? NO, IT, IT'LL BE WRITTEN OUT ANNUAL. SO BECAUSE WE ARE RELYING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S ENGINEERING MANUALS TO GET OUR STUFF DONE, THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME ISSUES WITH WHERE, YOU KNOW, CUZ FOR LIKE DRAINAGE WE USE ROUND ROCK AND FOR STREETS WE USE GEORGETOWN AND IF THE, IF ROUND ROCK DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO SOMETHING THEN WE DEFER TO AUSTIN. AND SO LIKE TRYING TO GET THE ENGINEERS THROUGH THAT. I GOTTA IMAGINE THAT'S KIND OF PIECEMEALED TOGETHER. AND SO, BUT BUT SO LIKE ASHLEY AND I ARE WORKING TOGETHER THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS SO THAT THE UDC BACKS UP THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AND THE ENGINEERING MANUAL BACKS UP THE UDC. COOL. AND THEN WE CAN LAY OUT THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT UP FRONT. SO THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE, AS LONG AS THEY CAN READ, THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ABOUT RIGHT. WHAT THE PROCESS IS. OKAY, COOL. YEAH. CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE UDC THAT IT, IT CONFLICTS WITH ONE OF THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AUTHORITIES. RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS THE MOST EXPENSIVE CONSULTANT. YOU CAN'T READ . WELL I WAS JUST ABOUT TO THAT POINT, LIKE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. I DON'T KNOW. TO THAT POINT, ARE YOU LIKE DOING ANY TRANSLATIONS, UH, LIKE TO SPANISH, ENGLISH AND SPANISH ON, ON ON THE DOCUMENT? HAS THAT BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT? HAVEN'T I THINK LEGALLY ENGLISH JUST HAS TO BE THE DOCUMENTS OF RECORD FOR SUBMITTAL. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC DOCUMENT, RIGHT. ENGLISH IS THE LANGUAGE OF OUR TOWN. SO LIKE AS FAR AS DOCTOR FOR ENGINEERING DOCTORS TO FILE WITH THE CITY, WANNA BE CAREFUL SAYING THAT WELL NO I MEANT ENGLISH FILE LANGUAGE OF TOWN. I MEAN, WELL I MEAN I DON'T MEAN TO, I'M MEANT TO FILE WITH THE FOR COUNTY DEEDS AND RIGHT. WELL MAYBE, MAYBE ON SOME OF OUR APPLICATIONS WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING SOME OF THEM IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THE MAJORITY OF THE ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS THEY'RE GONNA BE DONE ENGLISH. IN ENGLISH BECAUSE I AM SOMEWHAT BILINGUAL BUT I SPEAK ARABIC AND ENGLISH AND SO THAT'S NOT GONNA DO ANYBODY ANY GOOD. RIGHT. AND SINCE MOST OF THE ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS ARE NUMBERS AS WELL, LIKE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT A BIG LANGUAGE BARRIER THERE. OKAY. UM, THEY'RE PICTURES AND NUMBERS USUALLY. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF, AND THE CERTIFICATION TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTS AND SIGN IT, THAT THAT IS STAT RIGHT NOW THAT IS ENGLISH IS FOR AFFIRMING DOCUMENTS FOR ENGINEERING APPROVAL DOCUMENTS. GOTCHA. IT'S LIKE I HAVE MY E E I T AND YOU HAVE IS PE SO THAT'S GOTCHA. COOL. WELL NO I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND SO THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE HOPEFULLY OR REMEDY A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY COOL. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE YEAH, WE DID EXPAND THE U D C CUZ ORIGINALLY IT WAS JUST THE U D C, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WE BUDGETED FOR AND THEN WHEN WE GOT MATT, HE WAS LIKE, WELL WE ACTUALLY NEED THIS WRITTEN TOO. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL LET'S JUST ADD IT TOGETHER. RIGHT. BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET EVERYTHING TO, UH, TO WORK TOGETHER MM-HMM. AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ISSUES OF, WELL THE UDC SAYS THIS, BUT THEN THIS DOCUMENT'S SAYING THIS AND WHICH ONE DO WE USE? I THINK THAT'S JUST GONNA, THAT DOUBLE STREAMLINE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. UM, JUST TO HAVE EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF WE'RE SAYING WE'LL GO USE GEORGETOWN FOR THIS OR GO USE THIS FOR THIS ONE. RIGHT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN HOUSE. RIGHT. THAT'LL BE THAT'S AWESOME. GREAT JOB ON THAT. BE A BIG CITY. GROW IT UP. NOT BIG YET. SO I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO I GUESS SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE WHENEVER I WALKED IN THE DOOR VERSUS WHERE WE ARE NOW BECAUSE ASHLEY AND MATT HAVE, IN MY MIND, I MEAN ASHLEY WAS ALREADY KIND OF PULLING MORE THAN HER OWN WEIGHT WHEN I GOT HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE TWO OF THEM HAVE, HAVE BASICALLY TURNED HOOD AROUND AS FAR AS THESE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES [00:35:01] GO. THEY'RE BOTH BEING VERY STRATEGIC IN THE RESOURCES THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN DEPLOYING AND RIGHT NOW FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S VERY FEW, IF ANY, DELAYS GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESSES. SO WHAT, WHAT ARE Y'ALL HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, IF AT ALL? IF ANYTHING AT ALL? I'VE HAD A FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT ASHLEY. I MEAN, BUT CHECKS OUT. CHECKS OUT. TELL THAT I CALLED YOU. OH, I DIDN'T GET THAT EMAIL. . THE VOLUME OF CALLS THAT I GET FROM DEVELOPERS HAS DROPPED. I MEAN I USED TO GET CALLS FROM DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON? WHO DO I TALK TO? OKAY. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE HOLDUP ON THIS OR THAT THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO VERSUS THAT. I THINK PEOPLE JUST KNOWING WHERE TO GO HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY, UH, A GOOD THING. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH DEVELOPERS IN AND AROUND HU WHERE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN FEELING REPERCUSSIONS OF WHAT DEVELOPERS HAVE CUT CORNERS ON AND HAVEN'T COMPLETED. AND I THINK CITIZENS KNOWING WHERE TO GO AND THAT THEIR ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED MAYBE NOT IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING, BUT THEIR ISSUES ARE BEING LOOKED AT. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S MORE, I THINK IT'S WEIGHT AND GOLD. SO I THINK IT'S NOT WITH MATT AND ASHLEY, IT'S MORE WITH THE A TWO TEAM. LIKE SOMETIMES IT, IT APPEARS CUZ I MEAN YOU SEE I GET COPIED ALL AS TO WHERE MM-HMM. AND TALK TO THEM. THEY'RE WAITING AND THIS IS OUTSIDE LOOKING. THEY'RE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT SOMETHING AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE SICK FOR A WEEK, THEN SOMETHING ELSE FOR A WEEK. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, A MONTH'S GONE BY AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE TEXT MIX GUYS, IT'S A LATEST EXAMPLE TO WHERE, TO ME ALLIGATOR, I ALWAYS OVERSIMPLIFY THAT THERE'S TWO CCNS OF WATER THEY JUST WANT TO ANSWER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A THREE OR FOUR MONTH PROCESS JUST TO GET TO A POINT. BUT THAT'S NOT THESE GUYS, BUT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND ADD THE TAX BASE AND WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING HERE AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT TIME BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. AND THEN SOMETIMES, LIKE FOR ME, I WAS LIKE, WELL WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER TO GIVE THEM ANYWAY. AND SO HOW EASY IS IT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE WATER LINES? YOU DON'T HAVE EXCESS WATER TO GIVE UP WHATEVER IT WAS 50 FEET. BUT THEY GET A LITTLE FRUSTRATED ON THAT CUZ THEY JUST WANNA, THEY JUST WANT IT BUILT. AND I THINK IT'S MORE, UM, ALMOST SOMETIMES IT APPEARS A LITTLE BIT BUREAUCRATIC TO WHERE NOW YOU'VE ADDED IN A TWO NOW'S TALKING WITH THEM AND THEN EVERYBODY'S GOTTA GET ALL TOGETHER. IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IT HAD BEEN. IT'S DEFINITELY GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT BETTER. BUT, UM, I'M ALWAYS, SO, I'M ALWAYS THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK. I, SO, SO Y'ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE GOING IS OVER TIME. SO, SO SARAH RAMPING UP, AS YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE DIRECTOR WILL EFFECTIVELY BE REPLACING THE BULK OF WHAT THE A TWO TEAM WAS DOING TO FILL THE GAP CUZ THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING, FILLING THE GAP ON THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO. THAT'S MOSTLY BEEN CAUGHT UP WITH, WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND, AND JONAH MM-HMM. . SO YEAH, THERE WAS, I THINK LIKE YOU SAID, THERE WAS A, A WEEK OR TWO WHERE, WHERE DAVID SPECIFICALLY WAS OUT SICK AND DIDN'T RESPOND, BUT THE BULK OF THE TIME IS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE ATTORNEYS ARE NOT COMING EYE TO EYE ON THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. SO YEAH. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, WHEN I ASKED MATT, YOU KNOW, HE SAID THAT THE SCRS ARE BEING TURNED AROUND IN 10 DAYS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERMIT, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVING ANY OF THE, OF THE PERMIT COMPLAINTS THAT I USED TO GET. UM, AND THERE WEREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY. BUT THERE WERE STILL SOME, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. WE, WE DID GET A COMPLAINT, UH, FROM ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I MADE OUR TEAM DO FIRST IN, FIRST OUT AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD BEEN SITTING WAITING FOR DECISIONS SINCE 21. SO WE FOCUSED OUR TIME AND ENERGY TO CLEAR THE BACKLOG AND THEN GET TO THE FOLKS EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE HAD TO WAIT 90 DAYS. I MEAN, IN THE GRANT SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT'S NOT TERRIBLY LONG FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NEGOTIATION. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE MOSTLY CAUGHT UP NOW. UM, AND I AND YOU TWO ARE A BIG PART OF THAT, SO THANK YOU. STILL NOT DOING THAT. UM, SO WE NEED MORE. WE NEED MORE. UM, I, I WOULD JUST SAY YEAH, WHAT I ALWAYS TELL JAMES WHEN I EMAIL I ASK ABOUT SOMETHING IS I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A YES OR NO, JUST A RESPONSE OF SOME SORT. I THINK YOU TWO HAVE DONE REALLY GOOD. THE PEOPLE MAYBE THAT WERE IN ENGINEERING BEFORE THAT, I USED TO TELL JAMES LIKE, IT'S LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REPLY BUTTON IS BECAUSE ALL GOTTA DO IS REPLY. I GET TO IT NEXT WEEK OR I'M SWAMPED TO BE NEXT MONTH, BUT EVERYBODY'S GOING, HEY, DID MY EMAIL GO THROUGH IT? I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT DID. AND SO JUST BY YOU GUYS RESPONDING, BECAUSE ALL [00:40:01] THE OTHER CITIES, I ALWAYS THINK THIS ABOUT HOW TO, YOU CAN BE A BIG CITY AND HAVE A SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE AND I THINK OF SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE TO WHERE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU COME TO CITY HALL, YOU COME UPSTAIRS, YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY MM-HMM. AND HOW DO I GET MY POOL INSPECTED? AND THAT PERSONAL TOUCH WHERE YOU'RE RESPONDING BACK TO SOMEBODY AND SAYING, HEY MAN, WE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WAS OUT ON VACATION, IT'S GONNA BE A COUPLE WEEKS. THE BIGGER CITIES, THEY JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DELETE THE EMAILS OR WHAT, THEY JUST DON'T RESPOND. THEY JUST, IT IS LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN CARE AND YOU'RE JUST A NUMBER. AND IF WE CAN, EVEN IF IT'S SLOWER, IF WE CAN MAKE QTO BE THAT CITY CITY TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE NOW KNOWING MATT AND THEY KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS ASHLEY. LIKE EVERYBODY KNOWS ASHLEY AND ASHLEY TALKED TO THEM AND ANSWER THE PHONE. BUT WE HAVE HAD OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT LIKE, THEY JUST LIKE, I JUST NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, PEOPLE ARE SEEING, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING HU INTERESTING TO SOME PEOPLE IS START HEARING THAT, HEY, YOU CAN GO TALK TO THE ENGINEER. LIKE THEY'LL TALK TO YOU WHERE IT'S ANOTHER CITY, THEY JUST WON'T EVEN, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU EXIST. SO I KNOW, PLEASE DECREASE THE CALLS I GET BECAUSE BEFORE WITH THE THIRD PARTY, HE WAS ALWAYS COMING TO ME TO GO FIGURE OUT WHERE'S THE THIRD PARTY ENGINEER, CAN YOU GO TRACK SOMEBODY DOWN FOR ME TO GET AN ANSWER? MM-HMM. . SO EVEN JUST I GET FEES ON IT. AN AMAZING THING, I CRIED THE FIRST TIME HE GAVE ME FEES. I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD. TOOK 20 MINUTES. DAVID AMSLER CAME BY AND HE WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THE MATTER? WHY ARE YOU CRYING? AND I WAS LIKE, I JUST GOT FEES IN 20 MINUTES OF ASKING NOT THREE MONTHS. LIKE HE ACTUALLY CARES. AND HE WAS LIKE, OKAY, CALM DOWN HERE , YOU'RE GONNA BE OKAY. I WAS LIKE, I KNOW. IT'S JUST SO GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL ADJOURN AT 6 41. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.