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GOOD EVENING.[Planning and Zoning on September 5, 2023.]
THIS MEETING OF THE HU, CITY OF HU, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM TO ORDER ROLL CALL.HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE HAVE NONE.
OKAY, WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023.
4.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE ONE FINAL PLATT, 25.134 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 86 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ONE AMENITY LOT AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.
ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE TWO FINAL PLATT, 39.937 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 194 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SIX OPEN SPACE DETENTION LOTS AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 1 32 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
ITEM 4.4 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED HERITAGE MILL NORTH FINAL PLAT, 41.284 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 142 LOTS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FM 1660 EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 63.
ITEM 4.5 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED MUSTANG CREEK, PHASE SIX, FINAL PLAT, 11.69 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND COMPRISED OF ONE NON-RESIDENTIAL LOT EAST OF FM 1660 NORTH AND SOUTH OF MAINE HIPPO DRIVE.
DO WE HEAR IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING FROM SAID AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO PULL 4.1.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 4.2 AND 4.3.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE JUST ITEM 4.5 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COULD I GET A MOTION PLEASE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM 4.5.
UH, COMMISSIONER LEE MADE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER MORRIS SECONDED THAT MOTION.
COULD I HEAR A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I'M SORRY.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SORRY, I SECOND ON ON THE MOTION.
WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT THAT DID NOT GET PULLED.
I'LL MAKE, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
DISCUSSION OR A VOTE AND OR VOTE.
OKAY, NOW WE WILL VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTING OF JUST ITEM 4.5.
UH, SORRY IF YOU APPROVE OF THAT, SAY I I, AYE.
ANYONE THAT DISAPPROVES SAY NO.
HEARING NONE, IT PASSES 6 2 0.
OKAY, NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM 4.1, UH, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023.
COMMISSIONER MORRIS? YES, MA'AM.
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UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE ACCURACY OF THE MINUTES.THE ONLY THING THAT, THAT I, UH, UNDERSTAND IS THE UNDER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTORY REPORT IS BLANK AND I THINK THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A COMMON, UM, RESULT OF OUR MINUTES.
SO I GUESS THE, THE, WHAT I WOULD, I GUESS WHAT I COULD DISCUSS, UH, AT LEAST FROM MY MINUTES OF THE, THE MINUTES, I, UH, MY, MY NOTES FROM THE WAS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMISSION TRAINING EXERCISES, THE STATE CONFERENCE, AND ALSO SOME ITEMS ABOUT THE U D C, UM, UH, TIME TO, UH, GET THROUGH.
SO I GUESS WHAT, I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE A GATING ITEM TO APPROVE THIS.
I WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS TO THE REST OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION IS DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT, YOU KNOW, BULLET ITEMS? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LENGTHY SENTENCE, BUT JUST BULLET ITEMS LIKE I, THE NOTES I HAD TAKEN.
T TYPICALLY WHAT, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST ON THE MINUTES MM-HMM.
QUESTION ABOUT, UH, PROCEDURES FROM, FROM, UH, THE DAIS AT ALL OR SCHEDULING OR TRAINING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANYTHING COMING FROM US APPEARS PUSHING OUT OF THE YEARLY CALENDAR, ET CETERA, DOES NOT TYPICALLY.
I, AND I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
MY QUESTION, I GUESS IS, IS DO WE WANT TO HAVE WHAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ARE PUSHING OUT TO US? I'M NOT SAYING THAT I, IT'S WHAT I'M, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
DO WE THINK WE'D LIKE THAT, HON? HONESTLY, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE STRAYING OFF OF THE MINUTES THEMSELVES.
WELL, SO I WOULD, I WOULD ALMOST AGREE IN THE SENSE OF, I WAS LOOKING AT MY NOTES FROM THE LAST MEETING AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE U D C REWRITE COMMITTEE, AND ONE THING THAT WAS STATED WAS THAT THE, THE P N Z WOULD BE MEMBERS ALONG WITH OTHER CITIZENS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE PERTINENT INFORMATION SINCE SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS ARE AWARE THAT OH YEAH, THIS IS COMING UP AT THIS STATE AND HERE WILL BE THE MEMBERSHIP.
BUT I, I AGREE KIND OF WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ALSO, I DON'T THINK EVERYTHING WE BRING UP NEEDS TO BE IN THERE, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID THAT EITHER WE SPECIFICALLY BRING UP OR THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, I WOULD AGREE.
WE CAN JUST ADD THE BULLET POINTS YEAH.
AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE OR A MOTION HERE.
I GUESS IT'S MORE AS IS A DIRECTION TO STAFF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF TO MAYBE ADD SOME BULLET POINTS.
I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE A MOTION OR ANYTHING.
IT WELL, I JUST NEED A MOTION IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA APPROVE THE MINUTES THOUGH.
SO I WILL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, AS THEY ARE IN OUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 1ST AT 7:00 PM I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 1ST, 2023 AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE THING.
YES, DAVID, THERE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S GOT 'EM ALREADY.
WE'LL HAVE THAT CORRECTED FOR THE AMENDMENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I SAW ALREADY CORRECTED.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED WITH THE ONE TYPO CORRECTION.
IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, SAY YES.
AND ANYONE AGAINST THAT SAY NO.
I SHOULD PROBABLY GO OVER THESE SEPARATELY.
4.2 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT, 25.134 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 86 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
ONE AMENITY LOT AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.
SO A COUPLE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE ALREADY APPROVED.
SO THIS CAME BACK TO US IN APRIL AND WE DISPROVED THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES THAT STILL NEEDED TO BE MADE.
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JUST TRYING TO VERIFY 'CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THEM WERE NOT MADE YET.SO FIRST ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD ASKED FOR A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ON THE COUNTY ROAD.
WAS THAT, UM, ADDED TO THE PLATT AND VERIFIED? CORRECT.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS JUST, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS SUBJECT TO HOUSE BILL 31 67, UH, WHICH IS OTHERWISE LOVINGLY CALLED THE SHOT CLOCK BILL.
UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY SAID, UH, WAS THE PURPOSE FOR DISAPPROVAL.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE, UM, ESSENTIALLY GET COMMENTS OUT AND THEN, UM MM-HMM.
THE ONLY REMAINING CONDITION IS THE ONE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE DRAINAGE STUDY HAS TO BE APPROVED.
AND THAT GOES FOR BOTH ITEMS 4.2 AND 4.3.
SO EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN ALLEVIATED COMPLETELY.
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE ACTUAL PLATT STILL DOESN'T SHOW THAT IT STILL HAS RIGHT AWAY VARIES.
AND I KNOW THAT WAS A NOTED POINT IN THE ONE BACK IN APRIL.
I THINK YOU MAY STILL HAVE THE ONE WITH COMMENTS BECAUSE AN UPDATE CAME THROUGH WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES AFTER THE PACKET.
SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA, WE'D ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT ON STAFF SO WE KNOW THAT WE, DOES THAT POSSIBLY CHANGE? YESTERDAY WHEN THE FULL PACKET WAS POSTED, THERE WAS ONE PUT OUT SUNDAY AT 5:00 PM NO, BECAUSE THE ATTACHMENTS DIDN'T CHANGE.
FOR SOME REASON THE PROGRAM JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE THE STAFF REPORTS, BUT NOTHING'S CHANGED.
IT WAS ON ONE AFTER SUNDAY THE FOURTH.
NO, THAT WAS JUST THE COVER PAGES THAT WERE MISSING.
BUT, BUT YEAH, ON THE CURRENT ONE IT STILL SHOWS RIGHT OF AWAY VARIES ON SOME OF THEM.
I THINK IT ALWAYS WILL SHOW RIGHT OF AWAY VARIES.
UM, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PINS ON EITHER SIDE, BUT WE SHOULD BE GOOD ACCORDING TO ENGINEERING THIS.
UM, THEY HAVE A LOT REMAINING COMMENTS.
UM, AND THEN A QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS HAS CAME UP IN THE PAST AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
SO FOR THE FOUR OPEN SPACE EASEMENTS THAT ARE TECHNICALLY THE KIND OF THOSE WALKWAYS IN BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WILL ACTUALLY INCLUDE MULTI-USE PATHS TO ALLOW CONNECTIVITY BASED ON THE, THE CITY REQUIREMENTS VERSUS JUST ROCK WALKWAYS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.
WE CERTAINLY CAN INCLUDE THAT.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHERE WE WOULD, UM, CONDITION THAT.
BUT WE CAN JUST CREATE A CONDITION AND THEN I CAN CITE THE CODE IN THAT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE MINUTES REFLECTED THAT THE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE THE SIDEWALK.
I KNOW WE HAVE IT IN THE CODE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THE SECTION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION OR? YES, PLEASE.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE EASEMENTS WALKING IN, THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW THAT THEY JUST MAKE IT ALL ROCK.
IT'S MORE OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
YES, I SEEN THOSE VERSUS AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
BUT AS THE CITY, BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CONNECTIVITY, THOSE ALL NEED TO ACTUALLY BE MULTI-USE PATHS NOW INSTEAD OF JUST ROCK.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS JUST VERIFYING BECAUSE WE'RE, HOW THIS IS CURRENTLY SET UP.
THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF ACCESS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE WEST WHERE IT COULD CONNECT INTO THE BIG SANDY CREEK DRIVE.
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY INTEREST IN CONNECTING TO THAT ROADWAY TO ALLOW BETTER ACCESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF NOT, AT MINIMUM THERE'S NO CURRENT DEPICTION OF ANY TYPE OF SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY INTO THE ACCOMPANYING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE I BELIEVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FOR MUSTANG, THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE LIFT STATION WAS APPROXIMATELY GOING.
SO YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE CROSSING THROUGH THE TWO.
EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO GAP BETWEEN THE TWO, THERE'S JUST TWO CUL-DE-SACS THAT ARE BUTTING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
IF YOU SEE ON THE, UM, ON PAGE ONE OF FOUR OF THE PLAT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, THE, YOU'LL SEE THE TWO CUL-DE-SACS.
BUT THERE IS A LOT CALLED OUT THERE.
IT'S LOT 17 ON THE MUSTANG SIDE.
UH, WASTEWATER AND PRIVATE DETENTION.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT CONNECTIVITY, BUT THERE WAS NONE PLANNED BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THERE IS A LIFT STATION GOING THERE IS WHAT YOU'RE STATING IN THAT ONE LOT? UM, THERE'S ONE CLOSE TO IT.
THERE'S ONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BUT I KNOW IT'S JUST NORTH OF RIVERS CROSSING SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT LINE.
AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE WEST OVER HERE.
AND AGAIN, I'M BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU HAVE TWO CUL-DE-SACS BUTTING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
UM, SO IF THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE UH, VE VEHICULAR ACCESS, THAT'S FINE.
BUT AT MINIMUM, AGAIN, CONNECTIVITY WISE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BETWEEN THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE THAT IN THE CODE.
THE CONNECTIVITY ACCESS IN THE ADOPTED U D C IS LIMITED TO VEHICULAR ACCESS RIGHT NOW, UNLESS IT'S A PARKS TRAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UNLESS IT'S IN THE GREEN LINK WITHIN ITS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE CONNECTIVITY HERE WOULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THE LIDO WALKER, UM, EXTENSION OF MAIN HIPAA WAY TO THE NORTH.
BUT UNDERSTOOD, I JUST DON'T HAVE A CODE THAT I CAN CITE.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS BASED ON 31 67, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CITE THE CODE OF WHICH SECTION ARE WE SAYING THAT, THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT COMPLIES TO AND IT HAS TO BE AN ADOPTED CODE, NOT PART
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OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.I WILL MAKE THAT A NOTE FOR WHEN WE REWRITE THE E D C.
I GOT A COUPLE MORE PAGES FOR YOU.
UM, UM, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON BOTH THIS ITEM AND 4.3.
UM, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER THAT WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED BY PLANNING AND ZONING.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS WAIVED.
THAT ALSO WAS NOT DONE BY PLANNING AND ZONING.
JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
AND THAT WAS SEPTEMBER OF 2021, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND JUST FOR GOOD, GOOD POINT.
AND JUST FOR CITIZEN AWARENESS, IS THERE A REASON THAT NEITHER OF THOSE WERE DONE BY PLANNING AND ZONING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS? TYPICALLY, OR AT LEAST AS THE PROCESS IS NOW THEY'RE ONLY HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO CITY COUNCIL HAS THE PURVIEW OVER THOSE MM-HMM.
UM, SO WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL, THERE WERE REQUESTS ON MADE BY THE DEVELOPER THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD APPROVED AT THAT POINT.
ARE THERE GOING, I'M ASSUMING, I THINK THAT'S SCARY TO DO.
UM, THERE'S SIDEWALKS IN THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE RELATED TO SIDEWALKS NEEDING TO BE BUILT BY THE CITY.
THIS ONE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE U D C IS WRITTEN, UH, SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE WOULD HAVE SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET, UNLIKE SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ON OR THE OTHER, NOT BOTH SIDES.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, DOES THIS UM, DEVELOPMENT HAVE A PARK OR COMMUNITY TYPE OF FIELD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I KNOW A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE THAT OR POOL.
IT WILL, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPEN SPACE LOTS, NOT JUST OPEN SPACE.
THIS ONE AT LEAST ON LIDELL WALKER PHASE ONE BECAUSE IT'S SOUTH OF THE CREEK, WILL PROBABLY FUNCTION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S AROUND I THINK 1200 A, UH, 1200 LOTS, UM, HAS MULTIPLE AMENITY LOTS.
AND THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO INDICATED AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND POTENTIALLY IF THEY END UP, I BELIEVE THEIR PI WAS APPROVED THROUGH COUNSEL IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY MONETIZING THAT FLOODPLAIN THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THIS SIDE AND THE ONE ON THE NORTH.
UH, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A NICE CREEK THROUGH THERE AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.2? HEARING NONE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 4.2 WITH THE, UM, ADDITION FOR THE INCLUSION OF A SIDEWALK OR MULTI-USE PATH ON EACH OPEN SPACE EASEMENT.
I SECOND THAT MOTION MICROPHONE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED DALE WALKER.
PHASE TWO FINAL PLATT, 39.937 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 194 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SIX OPEN SPACE DETENTION LOTS AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 1 32 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
UM, SO AGAIN, SAME ONE AS ITEM FOUR TWO.
I WILL ASK FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT THOSE SIDEWALKS IN THE UM, I THINK FOUR OPEN SPACE EASEMENTS HERE.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, IS THE DEVELOPER CURRENTLY GOING TO BE BUILDING OUT MAIN HIPPO DRIVE BEFORE OR DURING THIS DEVELOPMENT OUT ALL THE WAY TO THIS CURRENT POSITION? WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, I SAT DOWN WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE THERE IS A SMALL PIECE MM-HMM.
AND I BELIEVE WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE HAVING TO GO TO, UM, A CITY ASSISTED CONDEMNATION.
AND THE CONDEMNATION, SORRY, THE CONDEMNATION PORTION WAS ACTUALLY ALSO IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021, THAT IF THE DEVELOPERS COULD NOT SUCCEED, UM, WITH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, THE CITY WOULD HELP BECAUSE THIS IS ON OUR MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE REACHED, UM, AN AGREEMENT.
THEY JUST, WE NEEDED TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND JUST EXPLAIN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE AND UM, PURPOSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR EXISTING PROPERTY THAT THEY
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ACTIVELY FARM.AND AGAIN, I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS VERIFIED BEFORE IT'S BUILT.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE THE ONLY ACCESS SHOWN IS THROUGH, UM, THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, UM, WHICH WOULD NOT BE IDEAL TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
FIRE CODE WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR IT EITHER.
UM, AND THEN JUST CONFIRMING AND I, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER STEWART MIGHT HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT JUST CONFIRMING IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THAT ALL OPEN SPACES RIGHT NOW ARE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS EXCEPT FOR ONE VERY SMALL PARKLAND SPACE TO THE FAR SOUTH.
IS THAT CORRECT? A LOT OF THIS DOES HAVE THE DRAINAGE BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT FLOWS DOWN TO THAT CREEK AREA THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THAT LAST, UM, PLAQUE.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT DOES MEET THE CURRENT PARKLAND REQUIREMENTS IN THE U D C BECAUSE UM, THEY'RE STILL DEDICATING PARKLAND THAT JUST IS DRAINAGE AREA.
SO A LOT OF THESE, IF IT'S DRAINAGE, THE CITY IS NOT ACCEPTING THOSE AREAS.
IT WILL BE OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A PARKLAND LOT.
EVEN IF IT'S A PRIVATE AMENITIZED PARK LOT, IT'S USUALLY OWNED BY THE H O A AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE ON EACH OF THE NOTES.
UM, IF IT'S ONE OF SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY, WE WOULD INDICATE THAT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A PARKS BOARD MEETING ON THAT WITH APPROVAL.
UM, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN MOST OF THESE, BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATE PARKS IS WHERE, UM, GETTING THE FEE IN LIEU OR IT'S NEGOTIATED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
I DON'T THINK THIS ONE WAS, UM, FOR AT LEAST WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL OR WITH A PID, BUT MOST OF THESE OPEN SPACE LOTS WILL NOT BE DEDICATED OVER THIS FEE.
SO I'M ASSUMING FOR THIS ONE WE DID GET PARTIAL FEE IN LIEU SINCE THAT ONE SMALL PARKLAND SPACE WOULDN'T MEET THE U D C REQUIREMENTS? CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT, AS FAR AS I KNOW FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THIS APPLICATION, THERE'S NO, UM, PROPOSED PUBLIC PARK.
AND THEN THAT'S THE SAME ON THEIR PIT APPLICATION THAT POTENTIALLY THE FLOODPLAIN TO THE SOUTH OR BETWEEN PHASES ONE AND TWO COULD COME INTO THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CONNECTION TO HAVE.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN THE MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING IT.
BUT THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THEIR HID DOCUMENTS THAT WENT TO COUNCIL THAT SAID IF THE CITY WANTS IT AT, AT SOME TIME, THAT THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO, UM, DEDICATING THAT OVER.
BUT AT THIS POINT THEY WERE LOOKING AT JUST PAYING THE FEE IN LIEU BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT PRIVATE PARKS.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE AT RISK WITH HAVING THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN OR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST FOR MY OWN EDUCATION.
DOES OUR EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, CAN IT FULFILL THE NEEDS OF THIS NEW BUILD? I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING OF THE NEW ONE THAT'S BEING BUILT IN COMPARISON TO ALL OF THESE NEW HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDING ADDITIONAL LOAD MM-HMM.
SO ARE WE PUTTING OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FLUSH HANDLE THIS
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
IS THE TIMING OF THESE EFFORTS, DO THEY ALIGN WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT THESE NEW RESIDENTS IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY? SURE.
GREAT QUESTION COMMISSIONER STEWART.
SO WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS WHEN WE WERE, UM, LOOKING AT THE PRELIM PLATS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE SPACE FOR THIS, I MEAN LITERALLY WITHIN OUR, UM, EXISTING WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR ALREADY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT FULL BUILD OUT.
BUT THERE SHOULD, THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
SOME OF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT 2021 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, A LOT OF IT NOW OUTSIDE OF THIS PROJECT, UM, A LOT OF THAT IS NOW COVERED THROUGH THAT SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST THAT EVERYBODY IS REQUIRED TO DO.
AND WE GET THOSE AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN ANNEXED SO THAT THE DEVELOPER ALREADY KNOWS WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE TO THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT CAPACITY.
AND THEY ALSO GIVE THE CITY THEIR TIMELINE OF WHAT THEIR BUILD OUT LOOKS LIKE SO THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY, THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE, THERE'S MODELING THAT OCCURS ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
UM, A LOT OF THAT JUST TO MAKE REALLY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IN A FAST-PACED DEVELOPING CITY, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING SPACE FOR THAT AND WE'RE CONSIDERING ALL OF THE ELU E THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE SPACE FOR.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.3.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM 4.3 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE INCLUSION OF SIDEWALKS OR MULTI-USE PATHS FOR EACH OPEN SPACE EASEMENT.
I'LL SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.3.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT INCLUDES THE SAME GREEN LINK ACCESSIBILITY PORTION
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AS THE PRIOR ITEM OR BECAUSE THIS ONE HAS LESS GREEN LINKS, DID YOU NOT WANNA INCLUDE THAT AS AN F Y I STATEMENT? UH, ISN'T THAT WHAT THE MOTION WAS IT FOR SURE.ARE WE GOOD? I'M WRITING IT ALL DOWN.
IT SHOULD BE THE SAME MOTION AS THE PREVIOUS ONE.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT I LOOKED IN THE GREEN LINKS.
MAYBE SHE SHOULD REREAD THIS
THAT IS THE SAME THING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE YEAH.
WHEN THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING IN, HOW DOES THE I S D GET NOTIFIED THAT, HEY, WE'RE ADDING ON ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL HOMES AND THIS IS GONNA INCREASE YOUR STUDENT POPULATION.
SO JUST F Y I YOUR BUSES ARE GONNA NEED TO GO THERE AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF.
SO WHAT DOES THAT COMMUNICATION LOOK LIKE WITH THEM? UM, DEVELOPMENT STAFF MEETS WITH THE I S D ABOUT EVERY SIX WEEKS IN A REOCCURRING SETTING.
AND THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, SO FOR ABOUT THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.
UM, AND THEN THE I S D IS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALSO SHARE THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT WITH US.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN OUR CITY.
MICROPHONE'S GONNA KILL ME TONIGHT.
UM, WE WILL, UM,
SO, UM, WE DO KEEP IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.
CERTAINLY WHEN WE HAVE THOSE MASTER PLAN LARGE COMMUNITIES, WE LET THEM KNOW EARLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE NINTH GRADE CENTER AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE PLANNED UP THERE, UM, IS IT'S GONNA IT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING ONE.
IS THAT AN OPEN OR CLOSED MEETING? UM, IT'S JUST A STAFF MEETING.
SO IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE P Z OR IT'S DIGITAL.
I MEAN, I GUESS IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD HAVE ANGEL ADD YOU IF YOU WERE CURIOUS, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST THE TWO GROUPS SAYING WHAT DO YOU HAVE? WHAT DO WE HAVE? UM, WHAT NEEDS TO COME UP? WHAT DO WE NEED TO TALK TO DEVELOPERS ABOUT? 'CAUSE WE'LL SEE A LOT OF THINGS EARLIER.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN GOING OVER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REVISING WITH THE I S D AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
WE KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE THEY NEED FOR ANY OF THEIR SCHOOL PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT THEN STAFF CAN ALSO ADVOCATE FOR THE I S D AND SAY, HEY, YOU REALLY NEED TO GO TALK TO THEM.
THEY MAY NEED A SCHOOL OVER HERE.
THAT'S, UM, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THE I S D WAS ABLE TO GET ANOTHER SCHOOL SITE, UM, IN A LARGER PROJECT ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE.
SO, UM, THERE'S JUST CONSTANT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS.
A ACTUALLY THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER MORRIS BROUGHT UP A A QUE UH, HIS QUESTION SPURRED AN IDEA ON ME.
UM, IF WE WERE TO HAVE, LET'S SAY FOUR MEMBERS OF P AND Z ATTEND THAT, WOULD THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM DISRUPT THE PROCESS? IT COULD.
ONLY BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO POST A QUORUM AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULD HAVE MAYBE WOULD GET FORCED INTO PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME QUARTERLY UPDATES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO B M Z AND COUNCIL.
I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT OR EVEN JUST A REPORT IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF AN F Y I IF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR.
AND UM, AND I CAN TALK TO, UH, MR. GIDEON ABOUT THAT.
THE OFF OF THE H I S D AND CITY OF HU YOU KNOW, GIVE IT, GIVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS.
I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD HAVE A FRIENDLY AGREEMENT THAT MAYBE ONE PERSON DOES IT EVERY ONCE, YOU KNOW, WE, A DIFFERENT PERSON GOES AND REPORTS BACK OR, OR, OR GETTING A REPORT I THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD, OUR REPORT A GREAT IDEA.
AND THAT, AND THAT WAY THERE IS NO, NO, I LIKE THAT P AND Z INFLUENCE ON THIS.
THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS EITHER GONNA BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR IT'S ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HEY, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST A F Y I MEETING FOR BOTH SIDES TO BE ABLE AND THEN SOMETIMES WE'RE ONLY 30 MINUTES 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH 'CAUSE EVERYTHING'S, UH, SMOOTH SAILING.
SO ITEM 4.3, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LEE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON.
ITEM 4.4 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED HERITAGE MILL NORTH FINAL PLATT, 41.284 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 142 LOTS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FM 1660 EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 63.
COMMISSIONER HUDSON, I BELIEVE YOU.
NOPE, IT WASN'T YOU, COMMISSIONER MORRIS.
WAS THAT I, I, COMMISSIONER MORRIS? I REQUESTED COMMISSIONER.
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SORRY.MY MAIN QUESTION IS, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THEY DIDN'T MEET THE UH, U D C, UM, ARE THEY PLANNING ON COMING BACK? YES.
SO PART OF, OH MY GOODNESS, I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A DISAPPROVAL SINCE YOU'VE BEEN BACK ON.
SO WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN SOMETHING HAS RE NOT REQUESTED A VOLUNTARY WAIVER FROM HOUSE BILL 31 67 IS BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO RESPOND THE FIRST TIME.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME BACK WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL CALENDARS THAT SHOWED YOU, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTAL DATES, RESUBMITTAL DATES, ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO SOME OF IT IS REALLY JUST TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW AND THE CLARIFICATIONS MADE THIS YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE, UM, FOR 31 67 AND I THINK 34.99 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THEY COME IN BUT IT HAS TO BE STATUTORY OR IT HAS TO BE DISAPPROVED BY THE APPROVING BODY.
SO WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ADMINISTRATIVELY HERE.
SO WE HAVE TO BRING IT HERE AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE A SEPARATE RESUBMITTAL DATE FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS ON DENIAL TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR THOSE COMMENTS.
IT'S REALLY JUST WHAT STATE LAW REQUIRES NOW, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT COULD BE STATUTORILY APPROVED IF WE DID NOT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
AND THERE WERE TOO MANY COMMENTS AT THIS POINT PRIOR TO GETTING THE PACKET READY THAT WE COULD PUT IT ON FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.
IF WE CAN CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THOSE ITEMS, WE DO.
UH, BUT YEAH, THEY'LL COME BACK.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT UM, WE JUST, WE HAD A FEW LAST MINUTE ITEMS THAT WE JUST SAID.
LET'S JUST PUT IT ON BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT 30 DAY TIMEFRAME.
IF WE DON'T, IT WOULD BE STATUTORILY APPROVED.
SO ASHLEY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'LL ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT WAS READ? YES, THEY SHOULD IN THE PACKET.
BUT BY THE TIME IT COMES BACK TO US, THOSE SHOULD ALL BE ANSWERED AND CLARIFIED.
SO FIRST ROUND OF REVIEWS FOR ANYTHING THAT, UM, IS UNDER THE HOUSE BILL 31 67 RULE IS GOING TO HAVE A 30 DAY TIMEFRAME BETWEEN SUBMITTAL AND GETTING TO AN APPROVAL DATE OR DISAPPROVAL DATE, BUT JUST GETTING TO THE DECIDING BODY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A 15 DAY REVIEW CYCLE THE SECOND TIME.
SO THE WAY THE CALENDAR LOOKS NOW IS THAT WE'VE TRACKED OUT EVERYTHING FROM SUBMITTAL DATE TO P AND Z IS TYPICALLY FOR US 28 29 DAYS.
AND SO IT WILL DEFINITELY TIGHTEN UP THE TIMELINE IT DOES FOR STAFF JUST TO GO BACK THROUGH ONCE IT'S RESUBMITTED.
UM, BUT THEN WE KNOW OF DID THEY MEET ENOUGH THAT WE CAN JUST PUT ON FOR, YOU KNOW, A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANOTHER DENIAL.
AND WE JUST KEEP GOING BACK THROUGH THAT CYCLE.
SO SINCE, SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, I WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN IT COMES BACK, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I THINK THAT WE'RE MISSING.
ONE IS A NOTE REGARDING SIDEWALKS ON INTERIOR ROADS.
THIS IS A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, SO THE NOTES WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT THAT'S STILL NOT STATED ANYWHERE IN HERE.
COR UH, I THINK THIS ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE UNDER I THINK INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SIDEWALKS, NOT CITY OR COUNTY.
BUT I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING BUT THE INITIAL BUILD OUT OF THE SIDEWALKS ON THE INTERIOR ROADS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER VERSUS THE, IT'LL BE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DECIDE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MUD.
SO THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON BETWEEN CONSENT AGREEMENTS AND THE REST THAT THE COUNTY HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND UM, IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO WORK ON.
WE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE PLOTTING AUTHORITY, BUT IT'S VERY LIMITED TO DICTATE IF THEY PUT SIDEWALKS IN, THEY FOLLOW THE U D C.
IF THE DEVELOPER PUT SIDEWALKS IN IT WOULD THEN THE NOTES THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING OUT OF WHAT THE COUNTY SIDEWALK WANTS IS IT WOULD BE UP TO INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO MAINTAIN THOSE SIDEWALKS IN PERPETUITY.
SO HOW DO WE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO FATE LIKE HOW TO ASK MY QUESTION.
I'M JUST THINKING OF, I THINK IT'S LIKE SIDE OF STATES MM-HMM.
SO HOW DO WE PROTECT THE CITY TAX DOLLARS FROM BEING IN A POSITION IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE'RE NEEDING TO MAINTAIN SIDEWALKS THAT AT THE TIME WE AS THE CITY AGREED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, I'M ASSUMING WE WILL IN THE FUTURE.
LIKE HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO BUY THESE HOMES ARE AWARE THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE SIDEWALK? I DON'T THINK THAT ANY HOMEOWNER OR PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNER IS THINKING I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALK.
THAT WOULD'VE TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE HOMEOWNER BY THE BUILDERS.
TONY AND I DON'T CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE IN, IN THE CITY, HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIKE MANDATE THAT TO WHERE THE HOMEOWNER AT THE TIME OF SALE IS TOLD THIS IS PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A HOMEOWNER SO THAT WE AS A CITY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THIS ASSET ISN'T REALLY IN THE CITY.
IT'S A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
SO WE ARE MORE LIMITED IN THAT.
UM, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS.
I KNOW WE DO IN THE PID POLICY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO IN THE MUD POLICY.
UM, SO IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO RE-LOOK
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AT THE MUD POLICY? I BELIEVE ACTUALLY MUD AND PI POLICIES WERE PART OF WHAT I PUT DOWN AS MY SHORT TERM GOALS FOR THIS YEAR WITHIN THE BUDGET.UM, SO I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING UPCOMING, BUT UH, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE APPLICABLE TO THIS HERE.
'CAUSE THIS MUD HAS EXISTED, I BELIEVE WE WENT THROUGH 20 20, 20 21.
SO THERE IS A CONSENT AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE CONSENT AGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SIDEWALKS IS ONE OF THEM.
UH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE ONE THAT IS ON OUR WASTEWATER.
AND SO THE CONCERN WAS MORE SO THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE WASTEWATER IS MAINTAINED AND THEN PLACED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WHERE THE CITY WANTS IT.
UM, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE STREETS ARE BUILT THE SAME, OR AT LEAST IF NOT THE STREETS ARE BUILT TO THE SAME CITY STANDARD THAT AT LEAST THE, UM, PIPES UNDER THE GROUND ARE BUILT THE SAME.
'CAUSE COUNTY AND CITIES HAVE VERY DIFFERENT, UM, REQUIREMENTS ON HOW STREETS ARE BUILT.
FOR THE SIDEWALKS, UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE PROBABLY AN H O A POTENTIALLY.
AND SO THAT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD PROBABLY TALK TO THE H O A ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN THEIR DOCUMENTS.
BEING ABLE TO SHARE IT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AT FIRST BECAUSE THE H O A REALLY DOESN'T GET OFF THE GROUND UNTIL ONCE IT'S, THEY'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT LIVING THERE.
BUT THEY HAVE TO WRITE UP THEIR, THE H O A HAS TO WRITE UP ALL OF THEIR RULES AND EVERYTHING BEFORE THE FIRST PEOPLE MOVE IN.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS I DO, YOU'RE A REALTOR LIKE ME, THAT 99% OF THE PEOPLE WILL SAY, I NEVER GOT THE RULES AND I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO COMMISSIONER LEE, IF YOU WANT TO READ ANYTHING INTO THE RECORD ABSOLUTELY.
OR YOU CAN PUT IT BECAUSE IT'S FOR DISAPPROVAL, YOU CAN SEND THOSE OVER TO ME.
THERE ARE SIDEWALK NOTES FOR PHASE I BELIEVE OF THOUGHT.
UM, BUT IF NOT, CERTAINLY YOU CAN PUT THOSE OVER AND WE CAN DOUBLE CROSSCHECK THAT WITH THE CONSENT AGREEMENT ON WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
WELL, AND, AND, AND IF IT'S TRULY BECAUSE IT'S A MUD AND I REALIZED AGAIN IT'S IN THE E T J AND NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, THEN IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T TRULY ASK, I MEAN IT WOULD BE AN ASK VERSUS A MM-HMM.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'D REALLY BE PART OF A MOTION.
SO IF YOU WANNA SEND ME THOSE AND JUST THE CONCERNS AND I CAN SHOW YOU IN THE CONSENT AGREEMENT.
UM, WE'VE GOT THOSE GEO-REFERENCED ONLINE, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MAP, I DON'T BELIEVE ANY SPECIAL DISTRICTS WE'VE ALSO STARTED TO PUT IN THERE MM-HMM.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN ASK AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WON'T JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THE CONSENT AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO HOW WE, UM, ALSO HANDLE STAR RANCH.
'CAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE ASK FOR AND CERTAIN THINGS WE JUST DON'T.
AND THEN NOW THAT I REALIZE U T J, THE SECOND QUESTION MIGHT NOT HELP EITHER.
BUT, UM, ARE WE ALSO VERIFYING THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS STILL ADEQUATE FOR THE EVENTUAL SOUTHEAST LOOP BUILD OUT AT 440 FEET? CORRECT.
ARE THEY STILL ALLOWING THAT FULL RIGHT OF WAY? MM-HMM.
DUE TO A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 4.4.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE 4.4 AS WRITTEN TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE TO DIS WELL TO AS WRITTEN.
SO IF WE VOTE YES OR I WE'RE SAYING DISAPPROVE CORRECT.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'LL SECOND THE, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO DISAPPROVE
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.4? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE DISAPPROVAL OF 4.4 SAY AYE.
ANYONE AGAINST THAT SAY NAYYY? WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE.
I THINK YOU GOT THAT BACKWARDS, DIDN'T YOU? MM-HMM.
APPROVING THE MOTION TO APPROVE DISAPPROVING 4.4.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD YOU HEARD HER SAY, BUT OKAY,
I'LL, ALL RIGHTY, I'LL VOTE FOR IT.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEMS. 5.1.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ALTA EDGE SCHMIDT, PRELIMINARY PLATT SEVEN 7.881 ACRES
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MORE OR LESS OF LAND FOUR FAM MULTIFAMILY LOTS LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 19.I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:40 PM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:40 PM OKAY.
IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A PROCEDURAL STAFF PIECE.
I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT I KINDA WANNA BRING IT UP AGAIN.
I KNOW THIS IS ONLY A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY REVIEWING ANY OF THE PLATTS, BUT WE STILL, BETWEEN US AND THE PUBLIC, WE DO STILL NEED SOME TYPE OF PLAT DOCUMENT FOLLOWING THIS PAGE BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOTICING THE PUBLIC AND THEY'RE GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT, I KNOW THEY GET A VERY SMALL JUST PLAT, NOT EVEN PLAT, LIKE HERE'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN THE VICINITY WITH SOME WORDS, BUT THERE'S NO ANYTHING DESCRIBING WHAT IS POTENTIALLY COMING IN HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO EVEN PUT A ROUGH DRAFT PLAT FOR THE CITIZENS AND FOR US, UM, OR ANYTHING.
BECAUSE AGAIN, OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY POTENTIALLY WANT TO COME PROVIDE COMMENT ON.
AND THEN ONCE THE ACTUAL PLAT COMES UP, IT WILL THEN BE TOO LATE FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK THE PUBLIC NOTICE WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING NOW IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE A SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION MM-HMM.
AND SO I KNOW EVEN ON THE SECOND ITEM WE PUT IN THE NOTICE WHAT THE USE WAS.
AND THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH IS THE USE.
BUT SINCE THE ZONING HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT DEFINING THEIR UNIVERSE AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR PLAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO CERTAINLY PEOPLE CAN STILL COME AND DISCUSS, BUT WE CAN'T DECLINE BASED ON USE FOR A PLATT BECAUSE THE USE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.
I'M A LITTLE WARY OF THAT ONLY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SO WATERMARKED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS A DRAFT AND WE'RE NOT SHARING IT AS FAR AS A DISAPPROVAL OR APPROVAL.
PLA THAT'S THE ONLY HESITATION.
BUT UNDERSTOOD ON THAT WE'RE THE ONLY CITY ACTUALLY THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARINGS AT PRELIMS. IT'S NOT EVEN REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME VERY INTERESTING YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE OVER NOTICE HERE A LOT.
UM, I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME CHANGES MOVING FORWARD, BUT CERTAINLY NOTED.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA JUST, SOME OF THESE JUST SEEM LIKE WE'RE JUST GONNA NOTICE PEOPLE AND THEN THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THEY CAN, THEY CAN COME SPEAK, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT BECAUSE THE ZONING HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
AND THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE.
THE, AND I GUESS MY FOLLOW ON QUESTION IS, I KNOW ON OTHER ONES WE'VE ACTUALLY KEPT THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN INSTEAD KEPT OF CLOSING IT UNTIL IT ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO US.
WOULD THAT BE A BETTER WAY TO APPROACH THESE? JUST SO ONCE THE CITIZENS ACTUALLY SEE THE TRUE PRELIMINARY PLATT AND HAVE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, POTENTIALLY THEY CAN BRING IT BACK AT THAT POINT? CERTAINLY.
AND IF YOU WANTED TO, THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION.
I THINK THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER THING TO ADD TO THAT IS IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA, THEY CAN ALWAYS DO A PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST REGULAR PUBLIC.
SO, UM, WE DID NOT GET ANY RESPONSES ON EITHER OF THESE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I THINK I SAW SOME STUFF ON FACEBOOK, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT, UM, YES.
UM, AND WE ALWAYS INCLUDE OUR GENERAL PLANNING EMAIL IN THERE MM-HMM.
SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON STAFF SEE THAT.
SO, UM, CERTAINLY IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA, SOMEONE CAN ALWAYS SPEAK ABOUT IT.
BUT TRULY IT'S JUST USUALLY WHAT WE GET ON THE PLAIDS IS THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE THE USE, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE USE BY THE TIME WE'RE AT, UM, BY THE TIME WE'RE GETTING TO PLATING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 5.1? ALL RIGHTY.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED C T C AT EMORY CROSSING PRELIMINARY PLATT 56.318 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND ONE MULTI-FAMILY LAW LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 19.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:44 PM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:44 PM ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO 5.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION OF HAPPY PANINI FOOD TRUCK TO BE LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 2 0 1 WEST STREET.
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GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A, UH, FOOD TRUCK, WHICH, UM, OF COURSE BEAR MODIFICATION, WHICH IS OF COURSE VERY SIMILAR TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UH, THIS REQUEST SEEKS TO GAIN APPROVAL TO OPERATE HAPPY PANINI AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FARLEY STREET AND WEST STREET.
AND THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AS OT FIVE H.
OF COURSE, THIS, UH, BEING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, IS PART OF THE, UM, OLD TOWN CORE, WHICH IS A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALLOWS FOR RETAIL, LIVE, WORK AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND OF COURSE ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE AREA IS TO HAVE, UH, SU SUBSTANTIAL, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND THE ORDINANCE FOR MI UH, FOOD MI OR THE MINE MINOR MODIFICATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCK, UM, REQUIRE OR LIMITS THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM HAPPY PANINI IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 2 0 9 FARLEY STREET, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING TO TEMPORARILY MOVE TO 2 0 1 WEST STREET UNTIL THEIR SITE AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET IS READY TO FULLY OPERATE.
HERE YOU HAVE THE ZONING MAPS SHOWING THAT THE PROPERTY, UM, IS O OT FIVE H AND THEN THE HAPPY PANINI FOOD TRUCK.
WE HAVE THE SITE LAYOUT OF WHERE THE FOOD TRUCK WILL BE AT, UH, 2 0 1.
UM, WEST STREET STAFF'S REVIEWED THIS REQUEST.
IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVER APPROVAL OF THIS MINOR MODIFICATION FOR HAPPY PANINI TO OPERATE AT 2 0 1 WEST STREET.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UM, MINOR MODIFICATION IS FOR THE USE.
SO ONCE THEY LEAVE WEST STREET, THAT'LL BE THE END OF THE MINOR MODIFICATION FOR 2 0 1 WEST STREET.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
UM, HAPPY PANINI IS ALREADY AT 2 0 1 WEST STREET.
I WENT TO MARY MOUNTAIN'S COOKIES TODAY AS A MATTER OF FACT, AND SAW THE FOOD TRUCK THERE.
SO THIS IS BEING PRESENTED AS IF THIS WILL BE HAPPENING, NOT THAT IT ALREADY HAPPENED, SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING WHY IS THIS BEING PRESENTED TO US AS IF THIS IS A PERSPECTIVE THING INSTEAD OF A FACTUAL THING.
SO I CAN CERTAINLY LET THE APPLICANT, UM, RESPOND.
WE KNEW THAT THEIR LEASE WAS MOVING, SO I BELIEVE, UM, WHEN I DROVE BY THIS MORNING, IT WASN'T THERE YET.
UM, AND I, AND MAYBE I'M, I'M OFF, BUT BASED OFF OF WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE MAP AND THE APPLICANT, PLEASE COME UP AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT TYPICALLY
BUT IF THEY NEEDED TO MOVE FROM A PRIOR LEASE SITE WHERE THE LEASE WAS ENDING, THEN WE TELL 'EM, YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE.
'CAUSE CHANCES ARE BASED OVER THERE THAT IT WAS LIKELY TO BE APPROVED.
AND THAT'S, AND WE'VE LET THEM KNOW THAT AS WELL.
UM, I DROVE BY THIS MORNING AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN FRONT OF MARY'S MOUNTAINS, BUT I'VE BEEN, I GO IN ON WEST EVERY DAY JUST TO BE LIKE, IS IT THERE YET? IS IT THERE? UM, I THINK ALSO THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT IT CANNOT OPERATE YET.
I JUST, THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING PRESENTED IS IF, YEAH, THE FOOD TRUCK ISN'T THERE YET AND I SAW IT SO IT'S NOT OPEN FOR BUSINESS, BUT YEAH, THEY LOCATE, THEY WERE ABLE TO TO MOVE ON SITE, LOCATE.
UM, AND CERTAINLY WHEN LEASES ARE ENDING, WE'LL TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST WANNA MOVE IT ONCE AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY BE OVER HERE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT, BUT THEY ARE NOT UP AND OPERATING.
CAN THE APPLICANT JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND? YEAH.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO CAN YOU CLARIFY, ARE YOU OPERATING AT THE NO, WE'RE NOT OPERATING.
YOU'RE NOT OPERATING, YOU JUST MOVED YOUR TRUCK THERE TYPE OF THING.
SO WE JUST MOVED THE TRUCK, WE PLUGGED IT IN AND WE'RE JUST OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION TOO, SIR.
UH, FOR BEING AT THE 2 0 1 WEST STREET BEFORE THE SITE OVER AT 1 0 1, UH, IS THERE A SPECIFIED LENGTH OF TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE OR DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, I, I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC TIMELINE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A COST CHALLENGE FOR US.
1 0 1, UH, MAIN STREET IS PRESENTING A, A WASTEWATER CHALLENGE FOR TRYING TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE BEST AFFORDABLE RESOLUTION TO REQUIREMENTS AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
SO 2 0 1 WEST STREET, GENEROUS ENOUGH OFFER UP.
WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'S 30 DAYS OR LESS MM-HMM.
BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SIMULTANEOUSLY MOVE FORWARD ON BOTH.
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DEFINITELY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ALRIGHT.AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, 5 5 3 AND FIVE FOUR ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT, SO THAT WE'RE KNOCKING IT OUT ALL AT ONCE.
WE GOT THE 2 0 9 TEMPORARY MOVE BEFORE THE PERMANENT MORE PERMANENT MOVE TO 1 0 1.
JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'LL BE MOVING TO 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS CLEAR.
WE'RE SEEING ALMOST THE SAME ITEM TWICE, JUST DIFFERENT ADDRESS, BUT ONE'S ATTEMPT AND ONE'S A MORE PERMANENT.
AND THEN CERTAINLY JUST TO NOTE ALSO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAD STATED, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING A RUSH ON THEM FROM OUR SIDE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LIKE SURE.
BECAUSE CERTAINLY IN DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN RUN INTO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE ROAD BUMP THAT TURNS INTO EXACTLY.
ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING PRESSURED TO LEAVE A CERTAIN SITE.
UM, 'CAUSE CERTAINLY I THINK WITH THE FOLLOWING AND EVERYBODY BEING REALLY EXCITED THAT THEY'RE STAYING DOWNTOWN, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STILL PROVIDING THEM WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ABILITY TO LOCATE IF THEY NEEDED TO LOCATE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UM, AND NOT HAVE THEM BE RUSHED OFF OF THAT SITE.
AND I DO ACTUALLY LIKE THIS TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT MM-HMM.
BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES THE BUSINESS OWNER, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF FORECASTING ABILITY, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THIS HAS ALSO BEEN APPROVED SO WE CAN GO FORWARD.
AND THEN ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY MINOR MODIFICATION, IT'S FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TRUCK.
SO IT'S NOT THAT IF THIS ONE LEAVES IN IT'S TEMPORARY LOCATION, THEN ANOTHER ONE CAN COME IN AND LOCATE AT THE SAME TIME IT'S SPECIFIC TO THEM.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN AND THESE ARE APPROVED, IT IS SPECIFIC TO THAT TRUCK.
NOW, IF THEY WERE TO SELL THE TRUCK TO A DIFFERENT OWNER, THEN YES, IT COULD STAY IN PERPETUITY, BUT WITH THESE IT IS TRUCK BASED, NOT USE BASED.
ON ITEM 5.3 ON THE AGENDA, THE ADDRESS SHOULD BE 2 0 9, NOT 2 0 1.
ON THE AGENDA REPORT IT SHOWS 2 0 1.
SO, WELL, IT WAS THEN THE, THE SITE WAS AT 2 0 9 FARLEY STREET, BUT THEY'RE AT 2 0 1.
THEY'RE GONNA BE OPERATING AT 2 0 1 WEST STREET TEMPORARY AT 2 0 1 WEST.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 5.3.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 5.3 AND PRESENTED.
UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STEWART.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO I HAVE A QUESTION CLARIFICATION.
SO I, I KNOW THE APPLICANTS AND I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE ADVICE TO THEM TO BRING THIS TO THIS BOARD.
SO I WAS GONNA OFFER IF I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE VOTE OR NOT.
IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A COMMISSION QUESTION.
I THINK THAT'S THE ETHICAL THING TO DO.
I THINK IT'S WANTED TO ASK, I'D SAY PLAY SAFE IF WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH VOTES.
SO I WOULD THINK IT'S FINE IF WE WERE IN DANGER OF NOT HAVING A YEAH.
A FULL QUORUM THEN I'D SAY YOU DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS THEN I'M NOT NO FINANCIAL INTEREST, BUT, BUT IN THIS CASE, YEAH.
AND BE SURE AND GET WITH THEM ABOUT SIGNING THE RECUSAL SHEET.
AND THAT WILL GO FOR FIVE FOUR AS WELL, RIGHT? YES.
SO WE HAVE A FIRST BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART.
HEARING NONE, IT PASSES FIVE ZERO.
5.4 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION OF HAPPY PANINI FOOD TRUCK TO BE LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
SO AFTER THE, OUR ONCE 1 0 1 MAIN STREET IS, UM, READY TO OPERATE HAPPY PANINI WILL BE MOVING FROM 2 0 1 WEST STREET TO 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST THAT MINOR MODIFICATION FOR THAT.
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UM, AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR THE TRUCK HOURS OF OPERATION, 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM UM, EVERYTHING OF COURSE MEETS, UM, THE ORDINANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE MINOR MODIFICATION FOR HAPPY PANINI TO OPERATE AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 5.4.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING REALLY QUICK SO I KNOW SINCE WE'RE, IF YOU'RE RECUSING YOURSELF, YOU CAN'T ASK
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY NOT BE IN THE ROOM IF I ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.
A RECUSAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT YOU'RE OUT OF THE ROOM AND YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT ROOM FIRST TIME EVER ON THIS BOARD.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, WE DON'T NORMALLY MAKE YOU LEAVE THE ROOM, BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AT ALL.
ALRIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 5.4 AS PRESENTED.
UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT SAYS THEY CAN OPERATE AT BOTH LOCATIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON FIVE FOUR SAYING UPON VACATING 2 0 1 WEST, THEN THEY'RE AUTHORIZED 1 0 1 MAIN.
I THINK IF YOU WANNA PUT THAT AS A MOTION, WE CAN DO THAT.
WOULD, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT AMENDMENT? CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? I'M SORRY.
SO, SO FIVE THREE SAID THEY'RE AT 2 0 1 WEST.
RIGHT? THIS ONE IS ALSO BEING APPROVED PROBABLY FOR 1 0 1 MAIN.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN OCCUPY 1 0 1 MAIN WHEN THEY VACATE 2 0 1 WEST.
SO THEY CAN'T HAVE TWO TRUCKS.
SO I'M, YEAH, I ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SO, OKAY.
ALRIGHTYY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHTY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 5.4 SAY AYE.
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION OF PETE'S CAJUN SEAFOOD TRUCK.
SEAFOOD TRUCK TO BE LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
SO CURRENTLY PETE'S C CAJUN SEAFOOD FOOD TRUCK IS CURRENTLY AT 2 0 9 FARLEY STREET.
UH, ELISE IS ENDING, SO THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING TO MOVE.
UM, THEY WILL BE MOVING TO 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
UM, OF COURSE ONCE THAT SITE IS READY FOR, UM, OPERATION AGAIN, IT'S LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, OT FIVE H.
UM, AGAIN, MINOR MODIFICATION REQUIRED, UH, BY ORDINANCE WE HAVE OUR ZONING MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION AND THEN AN IMAGE OF THE FOOD TRUCK SHOWING WHERE, UM, THE, UM, FOOD TRUCK WILL BE LOCATED.
AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UM, HAPPY PANINI.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF'S REVIEWED THE REQUEST.
UM, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET BY THE ORDINANCE.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR MODIFICATION FOR PETE'S OCCASION SEAFOOD TO OPERATE AT 1 0 1 MAIN STREET.
QUICK QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY.
THERE IS NO, EXCUSE ME, THERE IS NO TEMPORARY LOCATION LIKE THERE WAS ON FIVE THREE? CORRECT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE DA BESIDES THAT ONE? UM, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT? ALL RIGHTY.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ACCEPT 5.5 AS WRITTEN SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 5.5? HEARING NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
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OPPOSED? SAY NAYYY.NUMBER 5.6, CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 40 37 FM 1660 NORTH TO ALLOW AN ELEVATED WATER PUMP STATION U D C 10.30 4.8.
UH, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:00 PM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:00 PM JONAH WATER HAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE HU UM, I S D FOR OWNERSHIP OF LOT TWO BLOCK A OF THE HU INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT MAINTENANCE FACILITY SUBDIVISION.
AND WHAT JONAH WATER IS LOOKING TO DO IS TO USE THE SITE AS A PUMP STATION FACILITY, UM, TO RECEIVE AND DISTRIBUTE WATER.
UM, THE FACILITY WILL INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO A 2 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK, PUMPING UNITS, ELECTRICAL DISINFECT, DISINFECTION BUILDING, AND OTHER NEEDED ITEMS TO OPERATE.
THE WATER PUMP STATION CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BE REQUIRED FOR ANY PUBLIC UTILITY SUBSTATION IN THE SSF ONE ZONING DISTRICT, AND BY DEFINITION AT A 10.3 9.2 IN THE U D C.
UM, THIS WOULD FOLLOW UNDER, UNDER THAT CATEGORY.
YOU HAVE A MAP OF THE ZONING ALONG WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND THEN HERE IS A COPY OF THE, THE PLOT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WOULD BE LOCATED AT, UH, WHERE 40 37 IS LETTER OF INTENT.
AND THAT JUST DESCRIBES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AS I MENTIONED, UM, A COUPLE SLIDES AGO WITH THE, UM, HOW THEY PLAN ON LAYING OUT THE SITE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FALL WITHIN 600 FEET.
AND TO DATE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST.
AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS SS U P AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A COUPLE.
UH, FIRST ONE, UH, ON THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA REPORT, UH, IT SAYS THAT IT IS A SS U P TO ALLOW AN ELEVATED WATER PUMP STATION AND THEN IT SAYS A 2 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK.
IS THERE ANY PART OF THIS THAT IS ELEVATED
BUT WHEN I PICTURE AN ELEVATED TANK, I PICTURE THE BIG JONAH TANK ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS ONE MM-HMM.
RIGHT? THIS ONE WILL BE SIMILAR.
IT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT IS A VERY LARGE ABOVE GROUND TANK, BUT IT IS ON THE GROUND.
A YES, IT SHOULD BE ON THE GROUND WITH ITS SIZE.
IT WILL NOT BE ESSENTIALLY AERIAL LIKE OUR NORMAL HU OR RIGHT JONAH TANKS.
NO, IT SHOULD JUST BE ON THE GROUND.
AND WHEN I TYPICALLY SEE ELEVATED TANKS, I'M PICTURING THE TOWERS, NOT THE, NOT THE BLISTERS ON THE GROUND.
WELL IT SAYS ELEVATED, ELEVATED WATER PUMP STATION.
BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHAT PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED LIKE THAT? NOT ON THE GROUND.
UH, SECOND ONE, UH, YOU SAID THIS WAS GOING TO GO IN, UH, 40 37 MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHAT OH, BECAUSE THE RED YES.
RED IS COMMERCIAL ON THIS MAP.
THAT GOT CHOPPED OFF ON THE LEGEND, SO.
I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS THE TARGET AREA OR NOT.
SO THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NINTH GRADE CENTER? CORRECT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE IS ON THE, THE MATCH LINE, THERE'S A 41 99 IN THE VICINITY AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHERE THIS WAS GOING, BUT THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS.
I DUNNO, I DON'T JUST GOOGLE THOSE.
SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS ONLY FOR POTABLE WATER,
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DRINKING WATER.THERE WILL NOT BE ANY POTENTIAL OF SMELLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO ANY RESIDENT OR BUSINESS AND THE NEARBY VICINITY.
BECAUSE IF YOU'VE GONE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, YOU DON'T WANNA BE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.
IF YOU LIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA LIVE CLOSE TO THAT.
SO I'M JUST MAKING CLARIFICATION THAT FOR THIS, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ANTICIPATED STENCH.
BECAUSE THIS IS DRINKING WATER.
THIS IS NOT A WASTEWATER PURE DRINKING WATER.
DOES, DOES JONAH EVEN HAVE WASTEWATER? UM, AT THIS POINT I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I, I'M ALSO NOT AN EXPERT ON ALL THINGS JONAH.
I KNOW WITHIN HUDU CURRENTLY THERE'S NO WASTEWATER C C N, BECAUSE I WOULD JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF I LIVED CLOSE TO THERE THAT I WOULDN'T SMELL IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH, NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT WASTEWATER.
I MEAN JONAH, SO THEY DO A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IN HUDU RIGHT NOW THEY DO NOT HAVE WASTEWATER.
RISK TREATMENT JUMP REAL QUICK.
IT SAYS THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONE SINGLE FAMILY.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO REZONE? NO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO ADD, ASK A QUESTION, JUST MAYBE THIS IS A WEIRD QUESTION, BUT KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT COMMISSIONER STEWART BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
UM, WE'RE WE'RE APPROVING AN S E P RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN YOU JUST STATED IT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO IN THE SAME SENSE THAT SHE ASKED ABOUT A POTENTIAL FOOD TRUCK OPERATING BEFORE WE APPROVED IT, HOW EXACTLY ARE THEY ALREADY CONSTRUCTING IT BEFORE WE'VE APPROVED THEM TO CONSTRUCT IT? THIS IS ONE THAT, UH, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION STAFF WAS IN THE FIELD AND THEY STARTED DOING INSPECTIONS AND NOTICED THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY OCCURRING IN THE CITY AND NOT ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY NOT ON ANNEXED PORTION.
SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND SUBMITTED THAT S U P TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS 'CAUSE PREVIOUSLY, OKAY, PERFECT.
IF YOU RECALL, THIS WAS THE MUCH LARGER I S D SITE THAT WAS ANNEXED MM-HMM.
NO, THAT'S PERFECT EXPLANATION.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STICKING WITH WHAT WE NEED TO STICK WITH.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING THING.
I WILL ENTER OUR CONSTRUCTION CENTER.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 5.6.
COMMISSIONER LEE IRUN, WHOEVER WANTS TO, ALL RIGHTY BRIAN, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 5.6 SAY AYE.
NUMBER 5.7, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN WEST COMMONS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT P 18.83 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED NORTHWEST OF US 79 AND EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:08 PM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:08 PM OH COMMISSIONERS.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE THE STAFF PRESENTATION BEFORE DISCUSSION? AWESOME.
SO FOR THIS ONE, THIS IS, UM, LET ME ACTUALLY JUST GET TO A MAP REALLY QUICK SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THE LOW SITE IS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, PUDS IN THE CITY BACK IN 2006.
SO PART OF THAT P U D AND THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT YOU SAW THE ORIGINAL, UM, IS THAT PHASE TWO WAS LARGELY LEFT OUT OF THAT P U D.
SO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED SO FAR AS PART OF THAT P U D.
SO, UM, WHAT IS UP CLOSER TO 79, THAT'S THE NEWER CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS ALL BUILT TO U D C STANDARDS, WHICH AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE, UM, SUBMITTED WITH THIS AMENDMENT, IF IT'S JUST A STANDARD RETAIL, THAT TOTALLY WORKS AND IT'S FINE.
AND OUR U D C WORKS, WHERE WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A PICKLE IS WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THOSE MUCH LARGER USERS.
AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD, UM, A MOVIE THEATER OR ENTERTAINMENT CENTER LIKE AN EVO, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT IN OUR CODE.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS A P U D, THEY'RE ABLE TO AMEND THAT TO MAKE
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SPACE FOR THEIR EXISTING ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS THE ACADEMY BECAUSE WE DO REQUIRE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY OR GLAZING ON THOSE BUILDINGS.SO AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS IS SURROUNDED ESSENTIALLY BY EXISTING COMMERCIAL OR PLANNED COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH.
WE DO HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF THE EMORY FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU MAY ALL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE IRONWOOD DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW THAT, THAT WE'VE HAD A FEW PLATS ON HERE.
IT WAS ANNEXED, UH, PROBABLY IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS OR SO.
UM, AND THAT IS STILL ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
SO, UM, THEY ARE WELL POSITIONED IN THIS AREA FOR A MUCH LARGER COMMERCIAL CORNER.
SO PART OF WHAT THIS PUD IS SEEKING TO AMEND IS THAT IT PROVIDES THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE FOR THAT PHASE TWO DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS, AGAIN, JUST LEFT IT KIND OF BLANK IN THAT ORIGINAL P U D.
UM, IT'S TO ADD THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED BUILDING SO THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY THAT WE, UM, WE NEED IN THESE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR UNIFORM PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
A SMALL IN, UM, PORTION OF OUR CODE IS THAT EVEN IF IT IS ACROSS PARKING LOTS, UM, REALLY, SO EVEN HOME DEPOT, LOWE'S, A LOT OF OUR LARGER AREAS, BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT LOTS, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY LIGHTS SPILLING
SO THEY'VE JUST ASKED, YOU KNOW, HEY, CAN WE NOT HAVE EVERYTHING HAVE TO CUT OFF IMMEDIATELY AT THAT PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE LARGER AREAS? SO WE WERE GOOD WITH THAT ONE.
UM, IT'S ALSO TO MODIFY THE PYLON SIGNAGE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
UM, AND THAT'S ALSO IN YOUR PACKET IN THERE.
UM, THE REVISED LANDSCAPING PLAN, ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE U D C, BUT FOR EACH OF THOSE LOTS IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE LIGHTING IDEA.
THEY WILL MEET IT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE.
MAYBE NOT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SHARING PARKING AND DRIVEWAYS ARE WORKING OUT.
BUT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT WOULD MEET THE U D C REQUIREMENTS FOR SHRUBS, UM, BUSHES SHADE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ALLOWANCE FOR POLE MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS AND OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES IN LIEU OF UNDERGROUND AND GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS REQUEST.
SO AS YOU CAN TELL FROM YOUR, UM, FROM YOUR PACKET, AND I'LL GET TO THIS REALLY FUN PART.
SO THIS IS THE RETAIL, UM, AREA THAT IS PROPOSED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WOULD BE IN HERE.
THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED TODAY FROM ANY USER WHO WALKS IN.
UM, THIS SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING UM, THAT WOULD BE CONCERNING.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF COOL.
THEY'RE INCLUDING THE ARTWORK OR MURAL THAT IS, UM, IN THE P U D THAT WOULD BE APPROVED ON A STAFF LEVEL.
SO WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE PUBLIC ART IN THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS FOR A LITTLE VISUAL INTEREST.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER, UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT BACKSIDE.
UM, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS, THAT'S THE CORRIDOR IN THE THEATER BETWEEN THIS RETAIL BUILDING AND THE THEATER.
AND WE'LL GET TO THE EVO IN JUST A MOMENT.
SO THERE IS A BUILDING IN FRONT OF THE EVO BUILDING, UM, AND IT, IT CREATES THIS REALLY COOL CAR COURTYARD CONCEPT IN FRONT OF THAT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE RETAIL.
WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL OF THE RETAIL THAT WE HAD SHOWN.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BACKSIDE WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT FOR THAT EAST ELEVATION.
UM, THAT WOULD BE FACING MORE OF THE LOWE'S PARKING LOT AT THAT POINT, UM, OF WHAT THAT LANDSCAPING WOULD ALSO LOOK LIKE.
SO YOU REALLY GET TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF UM, THE BUILDINGS AND IT REALLY DOES SUBSTANTIALLY MATCH, UM, THE NEWER CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OVER THERE.
YOU REALLY WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
SO IT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HAD WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THEIR TIMELINES KNOWING THAT THEY WERE HOPING TO BE OPEN BY NOVEMBER, WHICH IS A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND FOR WHEN EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED.
SO WE HAD ALREADY ESSENTIALLY APPROVED THESE ELEVATIONS, BUT WE DO WANNA GET THEM CODIFIED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY CONFORM TO THE CODE.
BUT WE WERE GOOD WITH IT AS A STAFF.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS JUST A LOT OF GLAZING ON THE FRONT.
SOME OF THESE ARE NOT WORKING WINDOWS SO YOU WON'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GO INTO IT, BUT IT'S A SAFETY THING FOR ACADEMY.
IT'S ALSO THEIR MERCHANDISING, BUT WE STILL GET THE SAME LOOK FROM THE OUTSIDE.
AND THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR SOME OF THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE FOLK GLAZING BUT JUST NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS WHAT THEY NEEDED.
AND I THINK WE WERE A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS OFF.
WE ALREADY KNEW THAT THE P U D AMENDMENT WAS GONNA BE COMING THROUGH AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GIVING THESE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE ACADEMY THAT'S COMING, UM, IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ULTIMATELY WHEN IT IS FULLY BUILT.
SO HERE'S JUST ANOTHER LOOK OF, OF THE RENDERING.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, JUST THE LOOK AND FEEL.
IT DEFINITELY HAS THAT PEDESTRIAN SCALE THAT THE U D C IS HOPING FOR AND IT REALLY IS A GREAT ANCHOR FOR THAT SECOND PHASE.
AND THEN TO COMPLIMENT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO GETTING EVO.
AND THAT WAS A SUPER EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT.
YOU'LL SEE THE UM, EVO ELEVATIONS ARE ALSO INCLUDED ON THAT VERY TOP ON THE EAST ELEVATION.
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UM, THAT HAS, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT IN HERE.YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT COURTYARD AND IN A, IN AN ATTEMPT TO MEET THOSE GLAZER REQUIREMENTS, THE U D C DOES ALLOW FOR SOME UM, MOSAIC TILES, SOME OTHER THINGS, KIND OF SOME ARTWORK.
AND SO WHAT THEY'VE REALLY DONE THAT'S COOL AND IT'S UM, EXPLAINED IN YOUR PACKET IS THAT THEY'RE ADDING IN SOME GREEN SCREENS.
THEY'RE ADDING IN SOME MORE ARTWORK.
AND WE WERE EVEN SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEY THAT COULD BE MOVIE POSTERS, LIKE WE COULD REALLY DRESS THIS UP AND IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE WINDOWS.
YOU JUST WANT THAT VISUAL INTEREST IN THE FRONT.
SO THEY'RE ALSO SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMING, BUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T QUITE MEET.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT CONCEPTUAL PIECE.
WE LIKED THE ELEVATIONS AND WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION AND IT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF OUR CODE SAYS 50% AND THERE'RE AT 48, WE CAN'T SAY YES TO IT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO UM, GIVE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS REALLY COOL DEVELOPMENT.
THE ONE THING I DO WANNA POINT OUT ON THAT TOP ELEVATION WHERE YOU SEE THE RED OUTLINED BOX, THAT IS WHERE THAT OTHER BUILDING IS GOING THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY.
SO THERE WILL BE, WHAT CAN I DO? THERE WILL BE A THANK YOU.
THERE WILL BE A RETAIL BUILDING UM, HERE.
SO WHERE YOU DON'T SEE THERE IS A PURPOSE FOR NOT SEEING ON THE FRONT OF THAT BUILDING.
THERE IS A REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE OF THE ARTWORK OR GLAZING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S BECAUSE YOU WILL ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, IT'S THAT BUILDING UM, POTENTIALLY OUT FRONT.
SO YOU WILL HAVE THE GLAZING AND EVERYTHING ON THE FRONT BUILDING, BUT THE SPACE BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS AS MORE OF A SERVICE CORRIDOR.
SO IT WON'T BE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
SO WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL.
IT'S GONNA LOOK GREAT, BUT IT ALSO STILL FUNCTIONS FOR BOTH OF THESE GROUPS.
UM, SO IT COULD BE A BACK OF HOUSE FOR THIS.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE HERE IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED OUT THAT IT'S, THIS IS THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE THEATERS.
SO IF YOU WERE TO BE OUTSIDE, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR BACK OF HOUSE.
UM, BUT ALSO WE DON'T NEED WINDOWS OR ARTWORK ENTICING PEOPLE TO COME BACK WHERE THIS IS TRULY JUST A SERVICE CORRIDOR.
PART OF THIS APPLICATION ALSO DOES AMEND THE SIGNS A LITTLE.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE ARE UM, REVIEWING THIS AS A STAFF IS THAT THE SIGNS WILL SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THIS AS WELL.
SO WHERE TYPICALLY WE WON'T SEE ANY SIGNAGE POP ABOVE A ROOF LINE, WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW IT ON THIS PORTION OF THE EVO BECAUSE IT'S REALLY STYLIZED AND IT WORKS WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S A REQUEST THAT THEY SHOWED US ON THESE, UM, ON THESE ELEVATIONS.
AND WE SAID ABSOLUTELY THIS LOOKS AMAZING.
ANOTHER ITEM, I'M GONNA GET TO A COOL PHOTO.
IF NOT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST BE IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE WAS A RENDERING WHERE YOU CAN SEE, I THINK IT'S JUST IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THERE ARE LIGHTS ON THESE SLIGHT DIAGONALS.
SO WHERE YOU UM, THERE'S STILL VISUAL INTEREST EVEN.
EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A WALL BECAUSE THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, TWO D ESSENTIALLY THERE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A LOT MORE VISUAL INTEREST IN THE FIELD ONCE IT'S BUILT BECAUSE OF THOSE L E D STRIP LIGHTS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON THE BUILDING IN AREAS THAT REALLY UPLIGHT THE BUILDING.
UM, YEAH, GOOD IT IS IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE SOME REALLY COOL BUILDINGS COMING TO TOWN.
SO THIS IS ONE WHERE WE SAY ABSOLUTELY LET'S WORK WITH WHATEVER WE CAN DO, UM, AND LET'S GET CREATIVE.
AND SO REALLY THIS TRULY MEETS THIS SPIRIT OF UM, WHAT WE HAVE AS ADOPTED.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S THAT OVERALL SITE PLAN.
UM, THE EVO IS OVER HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THIS AMAZING COURTYARD AREA AND THAT LITTLE RETAIL BUILDING IN FRONT.
UM, THAT'S ANOTHER RETAIL BUILDING.
THERE'S MORE RETAIL ON THIS SIDE AND THIS IS THE ACADEMY THAT'S THE EXISTING Y M C A.
SO IT ALL FUNCTIONS WELL TOGETHER.
YOU CAN SEE HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE LOT LINES 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE ACADEMY LOT LINE ACTUALLY COMES DOWN LIKE THIS.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SAYING THE ACADEMY CAN HAVE ITS TREES BUT WE WOULD STILL COUNT THEM ON THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE SITE PLAN.
NOT JUST THAT EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY HAS TO MEET BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET INTO EITHER HAVING TO DOUBLE PLANT SOMETIMES WHERE THOSE TREES COULD REALLY COUNT FOR, YOU KNOW, TREES IN A DRY VILE.
THEY COULD REALLY COUNT TOWARDS BOTH.
WE DON'T WANNA OVERT TREE A SITE.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT IS ONE LARGE COHESIVE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOT LINES THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SELL OFF SOME OF THAT RETAIL SPACE.
SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE P O D PROCESS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE CREATIVITY, THE FLEXIBILITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO WE DO HAVE A FEW STANDARDS.
THESE ARE ALL IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL AND ONLINE.
SO YES WE ARE LOOKING AT THE, THIS P U D IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OTHER APPLICABLE LAND USES.
I THINK, UM, WE'VE DEMONSTRATED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HOW MUCH WORK THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS.
THIS REALLY DOES SPEAK TO WHAT HUDU HAS BEEN HOPING FOR.
UM, AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOME BUILDINGS GOING UP BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF MOVEMENT OUT THERE UNTIL RECENTLY.
SO THIS IS SUPER EXCITING AND WE'RE ALL ON BOARD.
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DEFINITELY CONSISTENT WITH THOSE GENERAL COMMERCIAL STANDARDS AND WHERE IT WASN'T, WE WERE ABLE TO REACH A LEVEL OF UM, COMPATIBILITY WITH THAT.UM, THIS WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT LAND WITH SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, RECREATIONAL OR AESTHETIC VALUE.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T ADVERSELY AFFECT.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO NOT IMPACTING THAT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME QUESTIONS.
SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, ANYTHING THAT WAS UM, OCCURRING IN THE POND IN THAT DETENTION POND.
IT IS STRICTLY DETENTION POND.
THERE WAS A WORK BEING DONE, BUT IT IS NOT ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
IT WILL, THE AREA BEHIND Y M C IS GOING TO STAY AS A DETENTION POND.
UM, THIS DOES GIVE BENEFITS THROUGH PROVIDING OPEN SPACE.
SO IT IS JUST OVER ALMOST 19 ACRES.
UM, IT UTILIZES THAT EXISTING DETENTION POND AND IT'S NOT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL PARKS, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF TELL WITH WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PLAZA AREA IN FRONT OF EVO AND THAT LAWN ENTRY IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, THERE'S UM, A LAWN ENTRY KIND OF FEATURE AND THEN ALSO A STAGE AREA.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ELEMENTS THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO SEE ANYWAY.
AND SO WHILE IT'S NOT PROPOSING ANY, YOU KNOW, STRICT PARKLAND, WE ARE GETTING AN ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE THAT'LL BE USABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THIS ALSO, YOU KNOW, STILL PRESERVING OF LAND FOR OPEN SPACE PARKS OR OTHER AMENITIES.
UM, THIS DEFINITELY HAS THAT WITH THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AND THE BUILDING MASSING AND BRINGING A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED AND THE MURALS.
AND THERE'S ALSO, I'VE RUMORED TO HAVE SEVERAL HIPPOS ON SITE.
UM, ALL STONE OF COURSE WE ARE NOT BRINGING ANY LIVE ONES.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BIGGER DEALS.
SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT, UM, CURRENTLY TO THE TRANS, UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES WHICH MAY BE UTILIZED ON THOSE ADJACENT ROADWAYS WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL BECAUSE ONCE THOSE FUNDS ARE PAID, THAT ALSO MEANS IF THEY'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE THE MASTER MOBILITY PLAN.
THEY CAN ALSO ASK FOR CREDIT BACK ON THAT.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE IS THEY WENT AND REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH TDOT.
AND SO THERE WILL BE, THEY WILL BE INSTALLING A MEDIAN BRAKE ACROSS 79 FOR A LEFT TURN.
IT'LL BE FROM, IT'LL BE A LEFT TURN IF YOU'RE HEADED EASTBOUND ON 79.
SO YOU COULD TURN ONTO ALLIANCE BOULEVARD UM, FROM 79.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WORKED OUT ON THEIR OWN HONESTLY MOST, I THINK THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE IT'S ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE ANYBODY BE TO GET ACROSS.
BUT I GUESS UM, THEY ASKED IN THE COMPLETE RIGHT WAY WITH THE RIGHT PROJECT AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT.
UM, THIS P A D WILL BE SERVED BY ADEQUATE FACILITIES INCLUDING STREETS, FIRE PROTECTION, WATER AND SANITATION.
SO THAT IS UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME EXTENSIONS BUT FOR THE MAJORITY THEY'VE GOT WHAT THEY NEED.
THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT ON UM, AT THE WRITING OF THE STAFF REPORT IS THAT BY THE 2006 P U D AS WELL AS THE 2011 ADOPTED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE PREFER THAT ALL OF THE NEW UM, OVERHEAD LINES ARE TAKEN UNDERGROUND.
AND SO THEY ARE ASKING RIGHT NOW IF THEY COULD HAVE A POLE MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS.
SOME OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF JUST ORDERING AND BACK ORDERS AND EVERYBODY BEING BUSY BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHAT STAFF WAS GOOD WITH IS SAYING THIS COULD BE UNTIL YOU CAN GET THE GROUND MOUNTED, BUT WE DON'T REALLY WANNA SEE THOSE AERIAL CONNECTIONS BEING CONTINUED.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY POINT.
THEY WERE LIKE, HEY, IF IT COULD BE MORE OF UM, NOT REALLY A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, UM, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT ENCORE'S LIKE HEY THAT'S STILL, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TOO, BUT MORE SO OF JUST ONCE WE CAN GET THE TRANSFORMERS ON SITE AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA WORK, THAT WE COULD SWITCH THAT OVER TO BE COMPLETELY MEETING WITH THE U D C BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ABOUT A YEAR LEAD TIME ON GROUND MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS RIGHT NOW.
SO EVEN HAVING, WORKING ON THIS, I THINK FOR THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, YOU'VE STILL GOT A LITTLE BIT OF LEAD TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET ACADEMY UP AND RUNNING.
SO THE REQUEST IN THE P U D UM, IS ONLY FOR THE ACADEMY BUILDING BUT WE JUST, WE WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GIVE THAT TO ANYBODY ELSE.
WE HAVE ALSO SAID THAT HEY, WE CAN'T REALLY GIVE THAT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT WE COULD WORK OUT SOMETHING WHERE THIS IS A UM, SOLUTION FOR THE MEANTIME UNTIL THE GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT IS ABLE TO BE INSTALLED.
UM, THIS DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER BURDEN ON THE CITY'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, BECAUSE IT SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMS UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH THAT SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THIS IS A CONTINUATION AND A COMPLETION OF THAT EXISTING P U D BUT CERTAINLY THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER BURDEN THAN WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT IS THE ABOUT THE PUD ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, LANDSCAPING HARDSCAPING SIGNAGE.
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WHAT WAS EXISTING SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, WOW, THAT'S TOTALLY COMPARATIVELY NEW FROM THE LOW SITE BECAUSE THEY'VE REALLY MAINTAINED THAT SITE WELL.AND THEN WITH EVERYTHING FOR THE RETAIL PORTION IN FRONT, THAT STILL LOOKS GREAT.
IT ACTUALLY MEETS U D C SO IT DEFINITELY COMPLIMENTS THE AREA.
UM, I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT, YOU KNOW, THE BLENDING OF THE NEW PLUS THE OLD AND A COMPLETION OF SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HOPING FOR FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WITH THAT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED WITHIN 600 FEET AND WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, WHICH I THINK IT'S PROBABLY JUST THE EXCITEMENT OF THIS AREA.
FINALLY, UM, COMING INTO INTO DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS P U D AMENDMENT, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE POLE MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS ARE UTILIZED AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO PRO UNTIL THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ACADEMY, UM, WITH GROUND MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS INSTALLED.
SO WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS USUAL.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT, I THINK IT'S EXHIBIT F, THE, THE OLD PHASE ONE, NOTHING ON PHASE TWO.
UM, AND I'M KIND OF USING THAT AS A COMPARISON WHEN I LOOK AT THE, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT IS THAT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 PAGES LATER? KIND OF THE LINE DRAWING MAP.
WHAT PAGE NUMBER? IT'S NOT PAGED.
THIS ONE, UH, NO I CAN'T COUNT
NO, I THINK THE PRINTOUTS GOT YOU.
SO UM, THERE, IT'S KIND OF COMPARING THE TWO OF THEM.
I CAN SEE THAT THE SPOT WHERE 1 45 UM, RHYMES WITH UH, CAR TRUCKS IS UH, THAT LOT AND THEN THE EXISTING DOUBLE BUILDING NEXT TO IT, NOT THE ONE ON THE CORNER, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STUFF FACING UH, HIGHWAY 79.
MM-HMM
ARE THEY GOING TO THEN BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR LANDSCAPING TO MEET THIS PHASE TWO PUD LANDSCAPING? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO I WOULD SAY NO BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN IS ALREADY APPROVED.
SO AFTER APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN, YOU'RE HELD TO THAT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THE ONLY TIME THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPING IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THE REST OF THE SITE WILL MEET THE U D C.
IT'S JUST THOSE INTERNAL LOT LINES ARE PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF CONFLICT ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, WELL TECHNICALLY THOSE TREES DON'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT SITE, IT COUNTS TOWARDS THIS SITE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING MORE SO WITH THIS LANDSCAPING IS REALLY JUST TO SAY THIS IS OUR DEVELOPMENT AREA.
WE MEET ALL THE TREES, SHRUBS, EVERYTHING ACROSS THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT SITE.
REALLY JUST AS THOSE FRONT BUILDINGS WERE ABLE TO DO.
'CAUSE THEY HAD THEIR OWN LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION ON THEIR LOT.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS REALLY JUST SAYING OKAY, ACROSS THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT SAW SITE, IT MEETS THE U D C.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO ANY OF THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING FOR THOSE FRONT.
THEY MET THE U D C WHEN THEY DEVELOPED, WE WOULD STILL HOLD THEM TO THAT SAME U D C STANDARD.
AND THEN KIND OF RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT, THERE IS A BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF ALLIANCE IN 79 THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY THERE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT THAN THE DOUBLE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
SO THAT ONE WOULD ACTUALLY, MICHAEL I. MAY NEED YOUR HELP ON THAT ONE 'CAUSE THAT ONE ISN'T DEVELOPED YET.
I THINK THAT ONE ACTUALLY WHAT WE'VE, I'VE SEEN IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT MEETS THE U D C.
UM, JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
AS, AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, TRACK D WHICH IS TWO MULTI RIGHT, THAT EXISTS, THAT WAS BUILT AND MEETS THE UDC MEETS THE U D C LANDSCAPING OR UH, THE, WHAT'S GONNA BE A RESTAURANT USER TRACK THAT WILL ALSO BE THE U D C.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE LOOKING AT LANDSCAPE WISE, KIND THIS LARGER PHASE TWO HERE.
SO FROM THE EXISTING SERVICE DRIVE KIND BACK TO POND IS THAT'LL COME LOOK AT 1 1 18 ACRES.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT ACADEMY AND THE NINE ACRES
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IS GETTING DEVELOPED WITH IT, IT MIGHT BE SHOWING 10 INCHES.BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS OVERALL 18 ACRES, I REMEMBER EXACTLY AND MEET U C FOR THE OVERALL AND THESE INTERNAL LINES THAT ARE SHOWN FOR H ONE AND H TWO AND J ARE JUST LINES, THEY'RE NOT LOCKED.
ONLY A LOT LINES OUT THERE IS Y YOU C, WHICH A PROPERTY LINE ACTUALLY FALLS ON THE DRIVE AISLES THAT'S OUT THERE.
MM-HMM
AND WHAT YOU SAID MAKES SENSE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING, OKAY, WELL YOU GOTTA DO IT THIS WAY FOR THE DOUBLE AND THIS WAY FOR THE, WITH THE LANDSCAPING WE'RE GONNA MEET U D C.
IT'S JUST THAT, THAT THING THAT BACK AREA VO ACADEMY AND OTHER
UH, NEXT QUESTION I HAVE, AND THIS REALLY DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY APPLIES TO THIS IN PARTICULAR, BUT UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN, OPEN SPACE AND SO ON, I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS HAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE BUT IT'S NONPERMEABLE OPEN SPACE.
SO I THINK WHEN I'M SPEAKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE, WHAT I'M MOSTLY LOOKING AT IS REALLY GONNA BE THAT LARGER COURTYARD IN FRONT OF EVO THAT DID SHOW AS YOU SH SAW IN THE RENDERINGS,
SO I WOULD STILL CONSIDER THAT PERMEABLE AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOT, I CONSIDER THAT LESS OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S CERTAINLY GONNA BE SOME CONNECTIVITY AND SOME PLANTING AREAS, BUT I WOULDN'T ACTUALLY CONSIDER THAT TO BE OPEN SPACE.
SO ABSOLUTELY SEEING, YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT APPLIES ON THIS ONE, BUT SEEING YEAH.
AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD SEEING THAT, SEEING THAT BIG PATIO AREA AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH THAT'S A GREAT AREA, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN PERMEABLE NONPERMEABLE.
THAT'S MORE OF JUST THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITY WHEN I'M SPEAKING OF THE OPEN SPACE, I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED.
IT'S REALLY JUST MORE OF THAT GRASSY AREA THAT'S OUT IN FRONT OF EVO, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT AMAZING PATIO OUT FRONT.
ANYWAY, SO I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO.
UM, I, OH ACTUALLY I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE WEST FACING ELEVATION WAS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME LIGHTING EFFECTS AS THE EAST FACING ELEVATION.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE NEON STRIPS OR WHAT? NO.
KIND OF, IT JUST KIND OF CREATES MORE EXCITEMENT, MORE ENGAGING AND, AND BEING THAT IT'S FACING THE PARKING LOTS AND THE INTERIOR OF THIS PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO PROJECT.
I JUST WOULDN'T WANT LIGHTING BLASTING WESTWARD OR NORTHWARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT ONLY, UM, IT KIND OF CONTINUES AROUND THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A LITTLE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE EVO ON THE NORTH SIDE, SO YOU'LL SEE IT CALLED OUT THERE, BUT IT'S A VERY SMALL STRIP.
BUT THAT'S ALSO KIND OF COOL THAT YOU'RE IN THIS LITTLE AREA THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE DARKER JUST FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CONNECT.
BUT THIS WILL BE LIT UP AND IT STILL GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MORE EXCITEMENT AS YOU'RE WALKING IN.
IF YOU'RE PARKED IN THAT BACK PARKING LOT, THAT'S GONNA BE OFF OF ALLIANCE AND SO, BUT OTHERWISE ON THE REAR AND THEN ON THAT SOUTH SIDE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE AS MANY LIGHTS UNLESS IT'S PART OF THE SIGNAGE OR PARKING LOT LIGHTING THE YEAH.
AND THE LAST, UM, I GUESS CONCERN I HAVE IS, UM, ANY SORT OF LOADING DOCKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE BACK OF THE EVO STRUCTURE.
I, I SAW THE RENDERINGS FOR THE BACK OF THE SMALLER, THERE'S A, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T THEATER DOCKS PER SE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THOSE KIND OF SUPPLIES BEING DROPPED OFF.
UM, THE, THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS, BIGGER RETAIL BUILDINGS NEXT TO YEAH.
THERE IS A LOADING SPACE SO A TRUCK CAN PULL OFF WITH YEAH.
THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE ACADEMY IS HOW DO THE TRUCKS GET BEHIND ACADEMY? 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TRUCKS.
THIS IS ALMOST MORE LIKE RESTAURANT DELIVERIES.
I MEAN, SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO STUFF A LOT QUICKER.
I MEAN 'CAUSE YOU FIGURE EVEN ALL THE OTHER RESTAURANTS IN TOWN, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE LOADING DOCKS TO THE BACK.
'CAUSE KIBO'S JUST, IT'S DIFFERENT AND IT'S COOL.
THIS, THIS, THIS IS JUST A MUCH LARGER SCALE SO I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS IS NOT,
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YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE YEAH, I REMEMBER WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE EIGHT CISCO TRAILERS BACK THERE.'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN A COMMENT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING OVER THE SITE PLAN, THIS SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED IS APPROVED AT THIS POINT.
'CAUSE THIS MEETS THIS SITE PLAN MEETS THE U D C.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LIKE WHAT ABOUT THE LOADING SPACES? WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR PARKING? SO EVERYTHING YOU'RE SEEING THIS P U D HAS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY FULLY MET THE UUD C WE JUST WANTED TO GET IT COMPLETELY JUST BECAUSE WE WERE OFF ON A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ORIGINAL 2000.
UM, AND SO THAT PERSONAL, THE SPACE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU CAN SEE THE PARALLEL.
UH, ASHLEY, YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE CREATING A LEFT IN TO ALLIANCE BOULEVARD OFF OF 79.
THE LINE DRAWING THAT RICK MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT LITTLE STRIP GOING IN THERE, IF YOU'VE EVER GONE 79 IN THE MORNINGS, TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP FROM THE LIGHTS DOWN UNDER ONE 30 ALL THE WAY UP TO STARBUCKS OR WHATEVER, I MEAN MM-HMM.
SO IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE AN OVERPASS? NO, IT'S JUST GONNA GO STRAIGHT ACROSS THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A SAY AS A CITY ACROSS THERE.
THERE WON'T LIKELY WON'T BE SIGNALS.
WE TRIED TO, WE TRIED TO GET FULL MEDIA WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THEY DENIED PROXIMITY TO THE, AND ALSO MISSION LINES.
SO THIS WAS THE BEST ACCESS WE COULD LEFT IN AND ALSO RIGHT TURN HELP.
SO YOU WILL ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE COMING INTO ALLIANCE.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE C V SS.
NOW OUR QUESTION ON THAT LEFT TURN LANE, DOES IT GO BACK TO THE CONCRETE OF THE UH, THE BRIDGE? THE ONE 30 INTERSECTION BRIDGE MODIFICATIONS? IT'S ABOUT A SIX.
GOOD LENGTH THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF BACKUP THAT WE SEE THERE, IT'S A, IT'S A LONG THREE LONG.
I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE ONE OF THOSE LITTLE, IT GOES TO THE C V SS SIGN.
I SO YOU SAID RIGHT TURN, SORRY.
NO, THE LEFT, THE LEFT TURN LANE.
IF IT STARTS AFTER THE, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, 50 FOOT LONG LEFT TURN LANE LIKE THEY HAVE IN MANNAR
SO SAME SIMILAR QUESTION TO THAT.
AND, AND SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LOOK IF THERE IS A BRIDGE THING.
SO WAS TDOT A MINI ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVING AN ACCELERATION LANE WHEN YOU'RE TURNING RIGHT OFF OF ALLIANCE ONTO 79? 'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS ALSO THAT IS NOW GONNA BE A HIGHLY USED ROAD FOR MORE THAN JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THERE'S NOT AN ACTUAL CONTINUOUS RIGHT TURN ONTO 79, THAT COULD BRING BACKUPS AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE DID TALK TO TEXTILE ABOUT GENERALLY MM-HMM.
YOU CAN MAKE THAT TURN AND THEN DON'T HAVE THE MERGERS.
SO, SO SOMETHING I WOULD BRING UP, AND I KNOW YOU, I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE WORKING WITH TEXT OUT ON THIS, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP YOU WITH THAT IS THERE ARE ALREADY ISSUES RIGHT NOW GETTING ONTO THE EXIT TO GO TO ONE 30 WHERE THAT IS ALREADY BACKING UP AND DOES NOT HAVE A DEDICATED LANE.
IF YOU COULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO EXPLAIN THAT THIS ACCELERATION LANE COULD CONTINUE INTO THAT EXIT LANE AND THEY MIGHT BE MORE AMENABLE TO IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
WELL, AND, AND I KNOW ALSO THAT YEAH.
BECAUSE I'M JUST FORECASTING WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TRAFFIC WISE WITH THIS.
I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL ACCESS.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
YEAH, I I THINK THE CHALLENGE OF A ACCELERATION LANE AWAY FROM ALLIANCE WESTBOUND IS THAT EXIT, AND I THINK YOU ALREADY, I THINK YOU ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING TO START BUILDING THIS MEDIAN BREAK AS SOON AS YOU
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GET APPROVALS.UM, WE, WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACTS READY SIDE, BASICALLY A DONATION AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THERE THING FALLS ON THE RIGHT TURN LANE BECAUSE RIGHT THERE MM-HMM.
SO SIMILAR TO ACTUALLY MENTIONED
WE'RE SEEING 50 TO 52 FROM THE SUPPLIER MANUFACTURER.
YOU KNOW, DOESN'T MATTER IF I'M TALKING A COMPANY, CALIFORNIA ENCORE HERE, CENTER POINT BACK.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S EITHER
NO, I'M GLAD THEY'RE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT ADDRESSES TO, BUT JUST WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THE EVO IN PHASE TWO KIND OF CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN BUILD OUT PLANS ARE READY.
I'M SORRY THE PLANS ARE READY FOR EVA UHHUH.
UH, THEY JUST DID NOT WANT STAFF BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE ACADEMY GOT TO A POINT WHERE I KNOW THERE'S SOME DOTS ON THAT NEEDED THIS P U D TO GET APPROVED MM-HMM.
IN ORDER TO JUST RUN INTO A BRICK WALLS, YOU KNOW.
SO I THINK ONCE THE, ONCE THE PUD AMENDMENT'S APPROVED BY AND UM, OUR PLANS MOVE THE CONTRACTOR FOCUSING ON PARKING LOT FOR ACADEMY TO GET THEM READY FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
AND THEN, UH, DIRECTOR BAILEY
SO I, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS AND I MISSED IT, BUT WHAT'S THE, AS ASIDE FROM THE DE DETENTION POND, ARE THERE ANY PLANNED USES FOR THAT? AND THEN I ALSO NOTICED THAT THE ENCORE HIGH VOLTAGE, HIGH TENSION LINES RUN EAST WEST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT DETENTION LINE.
IS THAT WITHIN THE DETENTION OR OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY? FOR THE DETENTION ON THE EDGE, I WANNA SAY.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN ENCORE.
THEY, THEY ACTUALLY RUN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RUN ALONG, UM, THEY RUN EAST, WEST AND THEN THEY GO SOUTH ON AND THEN THEY CUT AND GO ACROSS THE POND.
UM, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE ORIGINALLY, THAT POND WAS DESIGNED MM-HMM.
SO AS WE, AS WE LOOK TO DEVELOPING THIS IN 2023, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CHANGED IS THAT 14 TRENCHES ARRANGEMENT.
WE ANALYZED OKAY, THIS 18 ACRES MM-HMM.
IT'S GONE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL VOLUME COMES FROM THAT LARGER STORM.
BUT OTHER, OTHER THAN DETENTION POND, THAT IS THE ONLY PLAN USED AS A DE IT'LL REMAIN DETENTION.
BASICALLY THAT BACK PROPERTY, ACTUALLY THE CITY.
THAT'S ABOUT, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS RE RELATED TO THE DETENTION POND.
IT'S MAKING ME REMEMBER DURANGO FARMS AND HOW WATER DOESN'T FLOW CERTAIN DIRECTIONS.
SO IS MATT INVOLVED IN REVIEWING HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE FACILITATED TO ENSURE THAT ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED? SO THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS PHASE TWO OF SOMETHING AND THE PLAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, PART OF THAT DRAINAGE WORK THAT WAS DONE WAS MONTHS AGO.
MAN, IT'S LIKE OLD NEWS NOW,
AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY APPROVED BY MATT.
IF MATT WAS APPROVED IT THEN I FEEL BETTER.
IT WAS FULLY, UM, VETTED AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S KIND OF A BREAK IN THE MIDDLE THAT HALF THE SITE GOES THAT WAY AND THEN THE REST OF IT GOES TO THE FRONT.
AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT
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THAT.UM, GOSH, I THINK FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS AGO MM-HMM.
SO YEAH, THE PRELIM AND THE FINALS HAVE ALL BEEN DONE.
FINAL PLASS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED, SITE PLANS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
THIS IS REALLY JUST THAT FINAL JUST, HEY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LIGHTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST CUT THEM OFF, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, AND THERE WAS NO, I MEAN THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN FOR THE U T C UPDATE IS LIKE, HUH, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WHY DO WE DO IT THAT WAY? SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, KINDA THOSE CLARIFICATION ITEMS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT AND THOSE ELEVATIONS, EVERYBODY GOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT 100% APPROVED EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OFF A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS.
ONE WAY IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS A DISCUSSION WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THE MOUNTAIN FROM, FROM THE, THE LOCK.
THAT WAS THE GENERAL AREA WHERE, AND, AND IT'S LIKE, WAIT, HOW'S THE WATER GONNA FLOW? AND OKAY.
I I WANNA SAY THAT WAS FIVE, MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, UM, IS IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTRICAL.
SO IF IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO THIS WHERE YOU GET YOUR TRANSFORMER FOR NOW, RIGHT? I'M IMAGINING THAT ACADEMY WILL BE UP AND RUNNING BY THE TIME YOU GET THE GROUND MOUNTED.
UM, SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO ACADEMY'S BUSINESS TO, UH, BUSINESSES AROUND IT WHILE THAT'S BEING INSTALLED? WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM, UM, THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, FACILITATE THEIR OPERATION.
WE THINK IT CAN BE AS LITTLE AS IT GOES WITH THIS CURRENT PHASE.
WE'RE GOING AHEAD AND PUTTING IN BASICALLY THE UNDERGROUND CONDUIT.
WELL AS THE PAD, THE TRANSCO FINALLY DROP IT OUT SITE, WE CAN RELAY, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE SECONDARY NEW TRANSFORMERS.
IT WOULDN'T IMPACT Y M C A OR LOWE'S OR ANYBODY ELSE.
INDIVIDUAL SOLELY ACADEMY AT THAT POINT.
SOLELY ACADEMY AND SOLELY OPPOSED TO COVID.
SO IF YOU JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE YES YOU ARE MEAN
ANY OF THE POWER COMPANIES DON TO A CERTAIN POINT.
'CAUSE THIS IS TO LAY OUTLAY ON THEIR PART TO ORDER THAT TRAIN HOME.
ENCORE HAS TO ORDER IT KIND OF THING.
THEY HAVE TO WAIT, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE ACADEMY HAS FINISHED THEIR BUILDING PLANS, DECIDE THEN THEY CAN ORDER IT.
AND ENCORE PLACED THE ORDER, THEN THEY'RE STILL HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE THEY COULD FIND ONE MIC SHAPE LOOSE OKAY.
SO WE'RE STILL, UM, THE REST, UM, WE'RE GETTING
THAT WAS GONNA BE ANOTHER QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
UM, WELL MAYBE A COUPLE BUT ONE, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE PARKING STANDARDS AND SECTION 8.1 OF HERE.
AND SO, UH, THE RED TEXT, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS WHAT WE ARE ADDING TO THIS DURING THIS.
SO I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY THIS BECAUSE THE, THE PIECE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CHANGING IS SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF 250 OR ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FOOT OF NET RETAIL FLOOR AREA, WE'RE CHANGING IT TO ONE SPACE PER, UM, 250 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT EXACTLY MEANS.
UM, AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THE SENSE OF THAT PHRASING IS SAYING THAT THE PARKING CAN BE REDUCED DUE TO SHARED, UM, SHARED USE AT DIFFERENT PEAK TIMES.
NOW LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT, I COULD SEE THAT TO A DEGREE.
BUT THE CHALLENGE IS YOU DO STILL HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED CONCURRENTLY.
SO I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY WHAT THAT VERBIAGE MEANS.
FIELD HERE THAT WE SHARED YOU VO IS OBVIOUSLY MIKE ACADEMY EARLIER IN, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PET CODE USER IS, SO IT'S OFFSET NEWS, HAVE SHARED PARKING SPACE NEED THE REQUIREMENT OF ONE 50.
YOU START TO LOOK AT NEWS USES, YOU WANNA KIND OF HAVE ONE KIND OF NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.
I, I THINK JUST PHRASING WISE, I'M TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHY.
IT'S JUST SAYING 200 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA.
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IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE GLU BILL MM-HMM.SQUARE FEET, THEY ALL MAKE YOU PARK FOR.
BECAUSE CERTAINLY THERE'S ONES THAT WE'D LOOK AT AND IF WE WERE PARKING LIKE IT WAS BACK IN 2006 FOR THE LOWE'S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING ON THAT SITE THAT IS NEVER UTILIZED.
AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REALLY, YEAH, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, LET'S TRY TO MAXIMIZE THAT RETAIL AREA.
UM, AND REALLY HAVE SOMETHING COOL AND NOT JUST HAVE IT BE A FULL SEA OF PARKING.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THIS MIND IDEA THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE FULL PARKING, PEOPLE WANT TO GO THERE MORE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BUSY AND THAT MUST BE REALLY COOL OVER THERE.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT BEATS THE INTENT OF THE CODE BECAUSE, AND THEN ALSO IN THE R U D C, WE HAVE A RANGE BETWEEN WHAT WE CONSIDER.
SO THIS HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY PARKED RIGHT NOW AND WITH THE SITE, UM, ALREADY COMPLIES.
BUT THIS GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE IF, UM, LET'S SAY ACADEMY NEEDS CART RETURNS OR WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO DO SOME OUTDOOR SALES, THEN WE'RE NOT LIKE, OH GOODNESS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REQUIRED PARKING.
IT GIVES THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABILITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE IN THAT SITE.
AND IS ISN'T A BOWLING ALLEY KIND OF LIKE A RETAIL SPACE HOG AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FEET WIDE, 40 FEET LONG AND THEY, THEY'VE COME REALLY WELL.
UM, SO, AND, AND I THINK YOU ALREADY SAID THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED.
SO THIS MAY BE, MAY BE TOO LATE OF QUESTION, BUT I KNOW FOR TRACK H TWO, THE LIKE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THERE'S A CURRENT DRIVE THROUGH ON THAT SPACE, BUT THE QUEUING ON THAT DRIVE THROUGH IS VERY SHORT, NOT ADEQUATE FOR ANY TYPE OF RESTAURANT, UM, ABILITY OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO BRING MORE AWARENESS TO IF THE QUEUE NEEDS TO BE LENGTHENED OR IF IT'S FOR MORE OF A, SOME KIND OF DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE VERY MANY VEHICLES, MORE CONCRETE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, I THINK YOU KIND OF ALREADY ADDRESSED IT.
I KNOW WHAT THE TIFF AND THE T I A AND EVERYTHING.
UM, SO ARE THERE ANY ACTUAL NEEDS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ALLIANCE BOULEVARD? ANY TYPE OF TURN LANES OR ANYTHING? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY.
YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR OUR, YOU LOOK AT MAP,
I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST, I WAS MAINLY JUST CHECKING FROM THE T I A SIDE AND I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH A DEVELOPER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD TOO, THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING SOME OF THOSE.
SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES, BUT PERFECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THIS ALREADY AND IF WE DID, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE TREES AND SO JUST MAKING SURE, 'CAUSE I'M JUST THINKING IT'S 105.
I WANNA PARK AS CLOSE TO A TREE AS I CAN AND I HEARD YOU ABOUT LIKE THE LIGHTING AND ALL OF THAT IN THE PARKING.
AND I, I REALLY LIKE IN THIS PICTURE HOW WE HAVE THE OPEN AREA WITH THE TREES.
UM, HOW CLOSE ARE WE GONNA BE IN REALITY TO WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US TODAY OF THIS AERIAL VIEW IS THAT OBVIOUSLY WHAT THE TREES GET SIZE, UM, BUT AS, AS WE MENTIONED WE'RE MAYBE SOME REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE WILL BE, IT'S SOMETHING I WAS, I WAS HEARING YOU SAY THAT AND I, I'M, I JUST DON'T WANT ALL THE TREES TO BE BEHIND EVIL.
WELL, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE IT WON'T, BECAUSE OF THE TRANSMISSION LINE WAS ALONG THE LINES.
CAN'T PUT ANOTHER THERE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY TREES ALONG BEHIND.
SO MOST OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE IN THE FRONT.
THOSE TRANSMISSION, THAT TRANS TRANSIT LINE WILL HAVE SOME BUSHES, BUT NOT, WELL I DO SEE THAT.
BECAUSE OF COURSE ENCORE, A ENCORE IS THE ONES TO ALLOW IT.
BUT DID THEY, IT'D BE POINTLESS.
SO WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF TREES AND MOVED DOWN THERE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE IMPORTANT MM-HMM.
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ALRIGHTYY.YEAH, THANK YOU MICHAEL ALRIGHTYY.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 5.7.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF ITEM 5.7 WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TEMPORARY SOLUTION, UH, TRANSFORMER FOR ACADEMY SECOND.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS FOR ITEM 5.7.
ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAYYY HEARING NO PROPOSALS.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
SO IRE, HONESTLY I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH.
WE DID HAVE AN INTERNAL, UM, KICKOFF, KIND OF QUICK MEETING, UM, JUST TO DISCUSS LOGISTICS WITH THE FREESON NICHOLS GROUP.
THAT WILL BE, UM, HEADING UP THE U D C REWRITE.
WE DO HAVE A FEW SUBCONTRACTORS IN THERE.
UM, IT IS LOOKING, AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GROUP, THESE WILL BE TEAMS MEETINGS AND THAT WE'LL DO THEM, UM, LIKELY TWICE A MONTH.
IF WE WANT MORE, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE MORE STAFF LED.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS JUST IN A TIMEFRAME THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE, EVEN IF YOU'RE AT THE OFFICE THAT YOU COULD POP ON.
UM, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY LUNCH HOURS ARE ALSO IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO DECOMPRESS FROM YOUR DAILY LIFE.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF WE NEED TO HAVE MORE, IF WE'RE GETTING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MEATIER, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE MORE.
UM, AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST HAVE A STAFF P AND Z DISCUSSION.
UM, AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL, UM, VOLUNTEERS, THE ONLY ONE I CAN REALLY THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE OTHER STAFF THAT WE INVOLVED BETWEEN NOT JUST, UM, ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF.
WE HAVE SOME FROM E D C, WE HAVE SOME OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
AND I BELIEVE, UM, WE DO HAVE A FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO REQUESTED AT THE TIME, UM, THAT IT GOES FORWARD THAT, WE'LL, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, FORMER COMMISSIONER, SCHWAR FAGER WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE LANDSCAPING PORTION JUST BECAUSE HE IS A LANDSCAPING EXPERT AND HE LIVES HERE.
UM, I'M, YES, I AM ENVISIONING AT THE TIME THAT WE GO FORWARD FOR HISTORIC OR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN THAT I'LL, I'LL LOOP IN H P C JUST LIKE WE DID FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET THEIR ASPECT ON IT.
UM, THAT'S I THINK EVERYTHING WE HAVE.
UM, QUESTION, QUESTION ON THAT IS, IS THERE GONNA BE A ELECTRONIC, UH, PACKET PUSHED OUT AT SOME POINT FOR REVIEW, OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE TEAMS AND THEN IT'LL ALL BE COMPILED AT THE END? SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO EAT PIECES OF THE ELEPHANT NOT SEE THE WHOLE THING.
I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO, WELL, FIRST IT'LL JUST BE THE PIECES AS WE'RE BUILDING IT.
AND THEN YOU'LL END UP SEEING THE WHOLE THING.
IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE I KNOW FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE CAN KIND OF DO IT CHAPTER BY CHAPTER.
UM, I THINK YOU'LL SEE, YOU MIGHT JUST, SOMETIMES THERE WILL BE MONTHS WHERE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT LANDSCAPE AND WE'RE JUST GONNA FOCUS ON LANDSCAPING.
BUT I, I DO ENVISION THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIMES WHERE WE HAVE OVERLAP AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ON THE ROADWAYS, BUT WHAT DOES THIS DO TO THE STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT REASONS WHY CONSULTANTS ON THIS IS GONNA BE AMAZING.
'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, IS THIS CREATING A CONFLICT WITHIN THE CODE THAT WILL END UP BEING AN ISSUE.
UM, I CAN SEE THEN THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE YOU SEVERAL CHAPTERS AT A TIME, OR AT LEAST THOSE THAT COULD CONFLICT OR LET'S LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY ACROSS THE, THAT GROUPING.
SO AS WE HAVE SOME OF THE FIRST TEAMS MEETINGS FOR THE DIFFERENT TOPIC AREAS, WILL THOSE KINDA BE OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO DROP OUR LIKE 30 PAGES OF CHANGES ONTO YEAR 71 PAGES OF CHANGES? YES.
OR HONESTLY, BECAUSE, UM, ONCE WE, THE BUDGET IS FULLY APPROVED AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND WE GET INTO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
IF YOU WANNA SEND THOSE OVER, FEEL FREE BECAUSE CERTAINLY, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE SHARING OUT AS WELL IS THAT COMPLETE LOOK AT HOW THE U D C DOES NOT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS NOTICED IN THERE.
UM, SO CERTAINLY I WANT TO GIVE IF I'M, I'M HOPING THERE'S SOME DUPLICATES IN ALL OF THE PAGES THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN ALL THE GROUPS.
UM, IF NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND, I MEAN IT, YOU KNOW, NOT
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HAVING REWRITTEN ANYTHING FOR OVER 10 YEARS.I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME STANDARDS.
YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF COBBLED SOME THINGS TOGETHER AND WE DID TALK WITH THE U D C GROUP, UM, ON THE CONSULTANT SIDE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE MORE PRESSING ISSUES THAT WE MAY GO AHEAD AND WRITE OUT AND THEN GET ADOPTED.
SO I THINK ONE OF THEM COULD BE ON THE STORMWATER PROTECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, A COMPLIANCE PERSON ON STAFF NOW, AND MINDY HAS INDICATED THAT THERE ARE SOME ORDINANCE NEEDS THAT WE REALLY NEED OUR U D C RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY DO AS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.
AND IT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME LANGUAGE IN THE NEXT U D C, BUT GET THAT DONE.
UM, THE OTHER ONE I COULD CONSIDER THAT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON STAFF IS THE E D C.
AND, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP HAS BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS, MOSTLY IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL AREAS BECAUSE THOSE MANUFACTURERS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR LIMIT IS 45
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP WITH, UM, THE CONSULTANT TEAM OF LIKE, HEY, THIS MIGHT BE ONE THAT WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT IN OUR NEXT CODE, BUT WHAT'S A REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, STANDARD, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING LIKE WE DID WITH COMMERCIAL, BUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE OF JUST KIND OF THAT STOP GAP TO LET US CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND THAT AS WE'RE ADOPTING AND WRITING THE REST OF IT.
AND OF COURSE ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, THAT'S GONNA BE WHEN, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD OUR OWN ENGINEERING MANUAL.
SO THAT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY NOT RECREATING THE WHEEL, BUT IT'LL BE A BIG DEAL FOR HUDU.
'CAUSE WE'RE USED TO USING OTHER PEOPLE'S STANDARDS.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GONNA BE UP HERE NOW.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'VE GOT NOTHING.
AND WE HAVE, UH, WE WILL HAVE A FULL AGENDA ON, UM, OCTOBER 10TH.
KEEP IN MIND IT IS NOT THE FIRST TUESDAY BECAUSE WE ARE ACTIVELY AVOIDING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FOR TEXAS.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY A BIG THANKS TO JOHN FOR SEEING THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL THESE THINGS LIKE, DON'T WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS ISSUE AND WE SHOULD JUST NOT DO THIS ANYMORE.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE CALENDAR IS.
BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU.
SO THAT'S ONE THING JUST TO KEEP IN MIND FOR YOUR CALENDAR NEXT MONTH, BUT IT WILL BE ON OCTOBER 10TH.
IT WILL NOT BE THAT FIRST TUESDAY, UNLESS POTENTIALLY THAT IS THE FIRST TUESDAY.
'CAUSE THE WAY THE SECOND, OH, IT'S THE SECOND.
THE THIRD WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.
SO WE'LL HAVE THAT FOLLOWING WEEK SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN WE WILL SEE THAT FOLLOWING WEEK WITH A FULL AGENDA AS WELL.
WELL, WE WILL ADJOURN TONIGHT AT 9:02 PM.