Sep 07, 2023 City Council

[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL A MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

LET US PRAY. HOLY GOD. THE BIBLE TELLS US HOW GOOD AND PLEASANT IT IS LIVE TOGETHER IN. FROM THERE THE LORD BESTOWS HIS BLESSING.

EVEN LIFE FOREVERMORE. WE KNOW GOD THAT UNITY IS NOT A PRODUCT OF PASSIVITY.

NOR DOES IT HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. IT TAKES WORK AND HUMILITY AND COURAGE SO WE PRAY THIS EVENING FOR YOUR WISDOM TO GUIDE OUR TIME TOGETHER. HELP US TO MAKE LIFE CHOICES ABOUT OUR FUTURE LIVES TOGETHER SO THAT MAY FLOURISH WITH DIGNITY.

GIVE US GRACE TO AGREE AND DISAGREE WITHOUT FORGETTING KINDNESS AND HUMILITY SO THAT WE MAY NOT LOSE SIGHT OF YOUR SPARK WITHIN US. GIVE US COURAGE TO WALK BOLDLY INTO THE FUTURE CONFIDENT IN YOUR WELL FOR OUR GOOD. I ASK GOD FOR THOSE GATHERED HERE YOUR BLESSING OVER THEM. FOR THOSE THAT PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND ASKED THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WORK AND MOVE WITHIN US IN SUCH A WAY AS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AN EXAMPLE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND FOR THE WORLD IN JESUS NAME AMEN.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> NEXT IF THE COUNCIL WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT WE HAVE TWO

[5.1. Library Card Sign-up Month]

ALRIGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH.HEREAS LITERACYIS A PATHWAY TO LEARNING , EXCELLING COMGROWING AND BECOMING A SUCCESSFUL AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SKILLS AND ABILITIES EVERY PERSON NEEDS. WHEREAS THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION HAS DECLARED SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH IN THE HUTTO PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS COMMITTED TO THE ANNUAL CELEBRATION DECLARATION AND PROMOTION OF THIS MONTH TO SUPPORT THE LITERACY NEEDS OF THE CITY OF TEXAS.

THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, THE LIBRARY MANAGER AND LIBRARY STAFF ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES, PROGRAMS, OUTREACH AND SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ITS LITERACY NEEDS. WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER THE CITY WILL BE INTENSIFYING EFFORTS TO PROMOTE PUBLIC USE AND ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND TO INCREASE THE COMMUNITY'S INVOLVEMENT EFFORTS, KNOWLEDGE OF AND USE OF THE LIBRARY TO REDUCE LITERACY IN THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE WE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF HUTTO TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2023 AS NATIONAL LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH.ROCLAIM THE SEVENTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023. [APPLAUSE] WHAT'S I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY RESIDENTS FOR

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I ALSO WANT HANNAH AND TONYA TO STAND UP. WITHOUT THESE TWO LADIES, WITHOUT THE HELP OF THESE TWO LADIES AND AMY JUST CAME IN THE LIBRARY WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT THESE TWO LADIES. I WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT TO HELP OUT THE LIBRARY AND THE COUNCIL WITH THE MAYOR FOR YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT AS WELL.

>> ANYONE FROM THE LIBRARY BOARD? >> AND VERY HAPPY THAT WE ARE RECOGNIZING THELIBRARY . I GOT INVOLVED AND I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THE LAST YEAR AND AND A HALF THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR OUR CHILDREN AS THE MAYOR SAID LITERACY I THINK IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW EVEN MORE AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE WILL CONTINUE THAT GROWTH AND CONTINUE HOW IMPORTANT THE LIBRARY IS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT MEMBERS FROM THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

[5.2. Emergency Preparedness Month]

WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO MAKE PLANS WITH AND FOR THEIR LOVED ONES IN CASE DISASTER STRIKES. AS WELL AS SIGNING UP FOR THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE REGISTRY.

ALSO KNOWN AS STEER TO HELP GET ASSISTANCE TO THOSE WITH FUNCTIONAL ACCESS OR MEDICAL DEVICE NEEDS DURING DISASTER AND POWER OUTAGES. WHEREAS THE CITY OF HUTTO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STRONGLY URGES EVERY HOUSEHOLD TO BUILD GO KITS WITH ENOUGH LIFE-SUSTAINING SUPPLIES FOR EACH FAMILY MEMBER FOR A 72 HOUR.

. WHEREAS THE NET THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY TRIBUTE TO AMERICA'S FIRST RESPONDERS WHO PUT THEMSELVES AT RISK FOR THE SAFETY OF THEIR FELLOW RESIDENTS. THESE BRAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESIDENTS, FIREFIGHTERS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS EXEMPLIFY THE COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT THAT HELP STRENGTHEN OUR COUNTRY. WHEREAS IN THE EVENT OF ANY NATURAL DISASTER, LARGE-SCALE EMERGENCY OR TERRORIST ATTACK AMERICA'S FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE IS PROVIDED BY FIRST RESPONDERS AND PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL. WHEN PROPERLY EQUIPPED AND TRAINED HAVE THE GREATEST POTENTIAL TO LIMIT IMPACTS AND SAVE LIVES.

NOW THEREFORE WE THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF HUTTO DO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO TAKE ACTION NOW TO BE PREPARED FOR ANY DISASTER OR EMERGENCY. [APPLAUSE]

>> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE THANKFULNESS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMPHASIZE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS ARE TYPICALLY NOT RECOGNIZED AS FIRST RESPONDERS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THESE ARE THE GUYS ALONGSIDE FIRE AND POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

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THIS IS A WHOLE COMMUNITY EFFORT. EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS THE SAME RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PREPARED FOR DISASTERS TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> NEXT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.

[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

ONE IS AN UPDATE ON OUR WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO WATER CUSTOMERS THAT ARE INNER-CITY TO FIT IF YOU ARE A CITY OF HUTTO WATER CUSTOMER WE ARE UNDER STAGE III WATER CONSERVATION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN ONLY WATER ONE DAY A WEEK AS A SIGN BEFORE 10:00 A.M. OR AFTER 8:00 P.M. ON THE ASSIGNED DAY. THAT KEEPS US IN A HIGH RISK FOR FIRES SO THERE IS A HIGH FIRE RISK. IF YOU HAVE BEEN GETTING MANY RED FLAG WARNINGS ON YOUR PHONE I'M NOT SURE YOUR PHONE IS PROBABLY BROKEN BECAUSE MINE GOES OFF EVERY DAY WITH A RED FLAG WARNING. DO YOUR PART TO PREVENT GRASS FIRES AND CONSERVE WATER.ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS AS A REMINDER IS IF YOU HAVE TO PULL YOUR VEHICLE OFF THE ROAD FOR AN EMERGENCY, A FLAT TIRE OR YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR KIDS TO GET OUT OF SCHOOL STAY ON THE PAVEMENT BECAUSE THE UNDERNEATH PART OF YOUR VEHICLE IS EXCEPTIONALLY HOT.

THAT'S JUST ENOUGH TO START A FIRE. I WAS IN A CITY ONE YEAR WHERE SOMEONE WAS WELDING AND REPAIRING A GUARDRAIL AND THAT CAUGHT FIRE AND IT STARTED A HUGE FIRE. NEXT STEPS ON THE ANNUAL CITY BUDGET THIS IS BUDGET SEASON.

IT ALWAYS IS FOR CITIES PARTICULARLY HERE IN HUTTO. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 21 ABOUT THE POSSIBLE TAX RATE. ALSO ON THAT RATE THE COUNCIL WILL BE TAKING THE FIRST OF TWO VOTES ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAX RATES.

FINALLY SEPTEMBER 28 THE COUNCIL MAKE THEIR FINAL VOTE ABOUT THE BUDGET TAX RATE ASSUMING THEY CREATE THAT REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

WE DON'T START IN JANUARY WITH THE CALENDAR YEAR WE START IN OCTOBER WITH THE FISCAL YEAR.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET YOU CAN SEE THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.

FOLLOWING CONTEST. WE ARE NOW TAKING REGISTRATION FOR THE ANNUAL HALLOWEEN HOUSE OFF. YOU CAN ENTER THE HOUSE DECORATING CONTEST.

IT'S AS IF YOU DARE AND FUNNY FONT SO I THINK THEY WANT ME TO SAY THAT WAY.

WORDS WILL BE GIVEN IN THESE THREE CATEGORIES. THE SCARIEST HOUSE, THE BEST USE OF MOTION OR ANIMATION AND THEN THE BEST THEME RELATED TO A HONING MOVIE OR CHARACTER.

THAT LAST CATEGORY IS NEW THIS YEAR. IT CAME DIRECTLY FROM PUBLIC INPUT FROM OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLATFORM. THERE IS HUNDRED 50 PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THAT CATEGORY. TO ENTER THE HALLOWEEN HOUSE OFF VISIT THE PARK AND RECREATION PORTION OF OUR CITY WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SIGN UP THERE.

SPECIAL EVENTS, WILL USUALLY LIST OFF THE SPECIAL EVENTS BUT OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS THERE ARE DOZENS OF SPECIAL EVENTS I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER THEM FOR THE SAKEOF TIME .

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IF YOU'VE SEEN THE TV SHOW THE BIG REVEAL IS THE EXCITING PART.

THEY HAVE THE SPACE FOR THIS BY THE WAY. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE CLUSTERED AROUND AND EVERYONE CHANCE. SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE SHOW.

AND THEN THEY MOVE THE BUS AND YOU SEE THE FAMILY'S REACTION FOR THE FIRST TIMEIT'S USUALLY HEARTWARMING . THEY HAVE KEPT THE IDENTITY OF THE FAMILY A SECRET.

I HAPPEN TO KNOW WHO IT IS NOW AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE VERY PLEASED WITH THE FAMILY THAT'S BEEN SELECTED. WE WILL FOSTER THIS INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. THERE WILL BE A SHUTTLE THAT WILL BE RUNNING FROM CITY HALL TO THE FILMING SITE OUT THERE. THE MOVE THE BUS FILMING IS BETWEEN 2 AND 3:00 P.M. ON SATURDAY. SATURDAY THE 16TH IS NEXT SATURDAY SO DON'T SHOW UP LOOKING FOR A SHUTTLE TO SATURDAY. YOU WILL BE SORELY DISAPPOINTED. THE SHUTTLE WILL START AT 10:00 A.M. AND HUTTO ISD, WE NEED TO THANK THEM FOR PROVIDING THE SHUTTLE BACK AND FORTH. YOU CAN GET AROUND THE TRAFFIC AND COME DOWN HERE TO RIDE THE SHUTTLE. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THIS IS THE LAST UPDATE FOR TONIGHT. RESIDENTS CAN VOLUNTEER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND PROVIDE VALUABLE ADVICE, FEEDBACK TO COUNSEL. IN OUR ONGOING EFFORT TO SPREAD THE WORD TO SERVE WE HAVE ADDED A SLIGHT TO MY COMMENTS IN THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE MONTH. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AND HOW DO WE STRONGLY VALUE COMMUNITY INPUT AND PARTICIPATION. THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE GREAT WAY TO GET INVOLVED AND POSSIBLY SHAPE YOUR COMMUNITY. THESE CONSIDER APPLYING.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS HE WAS REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE AND HOW YOU CAN SIGN UP AND APPLY. I WILL SAY IT'S THE FIRST OF THE NEW YEAR.

THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS GOING TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED AND MUCH SIMPLER, EASIER AND BETTER. AS IT IS RIGHT NOW YOU PRINT OUT A PDF, FILL IT OUT.

SUBMIT IT AND WE SHARE THOSE FOR THE APPOINTMENTS. MAYOR THAT CONCLUDES MY

[7. PUBLIC COMMENT]

COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT. >> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN THE TIME IS OF IT WILL GO

TO READ IT. FIRST UP WE HAVE JIMMY PIERCE. >> MAYOR SNYDER YOU HAVE COST THE CITY MORE MONEYTHAN ANY GOOD YOU CAN NEVER GENERATE . THERE IS A LAWSUIT THAT WAS SETTLED FOR $12.5 MILLION ABOUT RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. IN THE TRANSCRIPT YOU ARE QUOTED AS SAYING BLACKS ARE CROOKS. THE APPEAL FOR THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER. WHILE IT MAY BE LESS I'M SURE THERE WILL STILL BE A PAYOUT.

IT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET? THERE HAS BEEN A PAYOUT ON SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION CLAIM WHERE YOU WERE QUOTED AS SAYING WE HAVE TOO MANY WOMEN IN CITY LEADERSHIP.

YOU CONVINCED THE EDC TO PURCHASE THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY TO STICK IT AS A

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STREET PROJECT AT THIS POINT IT WILL COST 50% MORE TO COMPLETE. >> TO CONVINCE EDC TO SPEND $25,000 TO BRING THE BARBECUE COOKOFF TO TOWN THAT GENERATED NO INCOME FOR THE TOWN.

YOU HAVE CANCELED AND YES IT WAS YOUR ACTIONS THAT LED TO THE CANCELLATION.

A PROJECT THAT WOULD DRIVEN THE ECONOMY FOR YEARS TO COME AND ALLOWED FOR THE LOWERING OF THE RESIDENTIAL TAX RATE. YOU HAVE CLAIMED THAT THE PROJECT WAS ILLEGAL AND THIS IS PROVEN TO BE FALSE. PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT TAXES BUT YOU KILLED AT LEAST AT THIS PARTICULAR GROWTH POTENTIAL. YOU CLAIM THAT MONEY WAS MISSING AND AFTER AN EXTENSIVE AUDIT THAT WAS PROVEN TO BE FALSE.

YOU ARE PUSHING OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE PUT ON THE INTERNET.

THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING BEING AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THOUSANDS IN YOUR CAMPAIGN FUND FROM AUSTIN AND NOT HUTTO. YOU MEET PRIVATELY WITH DEVELOPERS. YOU HAVE MET WITH CITY OFFICIALS OUTSIDE OF TOWN SO IT'S NOT TO BE OVERHEARD. YOU HAVE TOLD STAFF NOT TO USE CERTAIN LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR CITY SERVICES WHICH IS ILLEGAL. YOU SEEM TO HAVE THE FORESIGHT AND EVERYTHING YOU DO SEEMS TO BE REACTIONARY AND THIS IS NOT A TRAIT OF A GOOD LEADER. HOW MUCH LONGER WILL THE CITY HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR ACTIONS IN BOTH MONEY AND OUR FUTURE. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TRUST WHAT YOU SAY PUBLICLY? I KNOW YOU HAVE LIED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND DIRECTLY TO ME.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PUT UP WITH YOUR PETTY VINDICTIVE RACIST AND SEXIST ACTIONS THAT YOU PRETEND OUR LEADERSHIP. [APPLAUSE] NEXT NEXT WE HAVE

IDA WEAVER. >> GOOD EVENING THIS IS FOR EVERYONE.

I AM IDA WEAVER AND I LIVE HERE IN HUTTO. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THIS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS USING OUR DESIRE FOR IMPROVED STREETS AS A BARGAINING CHIP.

THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE HEARING.E WOULD TRULY LOVE TO FIND ROOF REPAIRS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL BUDGET ITEM. TO DO SO WE WILL HAVE TO RAISE YOUR TAXES.

YOU WOULDN'T WANT US TO HAVE TO PULL DOWN OUR CONTINGENCY FUND WOULD YOU? THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO US. NO, WE WANT YOU TO FLUSH YOUR WASTEFUL SPENDING OUT OF OUR BUDGET. DO NOT RAISE OUR TAXES.

GO BACK TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. WHILE ASSIGNED TO THE NAVAL AIR SYSTEMS COMMAND IN WASHINGTON DC MY DUTIES INCLUDED INVESTIGATION OF WEAPON SYSTEMS, MATERIAL FAILURES. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS.

OUR ENGINEERING TEAM WAS TASKED WITH FINDING SOLUTIONS TO KEEP OUR AIRCRAFT FLYING.

I ADMIRE AND RESPECT OUR HUTTO ENGINEERS AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.

THEY ARE SOLUTION ORIENTED. KEEP OUR TAXES LOW AND OUR ROADS SAFE.>> NEXT WE HAVE CHASSE MOORE. LOOKS GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL FOLKS AND CITY MANAGER.

MY NAME IS CHAD MOORE I LIVE IN AUSTIN BUT I AM IN FLUVIAL HUTTO A LOT.

I'M HERE TODAY AND I ALSO RUN AN ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION.

WE DO ADVOCACY WORK AND I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD AT IT. I WAS INVITED TO THE WHITE

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I KNOW LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WHEN I HEAR ABOUT PARTICULAR MEMBERS ON CITY COUNCIL DOING THINGS THAT THEY KNOW IS AN APPROPRIATE AND GIVES ME A REASON TO COME VISIT MY NEIGHBORS DOWN THE STREET. HUTTO FROM WHAT I READ BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT BLACK PEOPLE CAN READ. I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE MIGHT NOT READ THAT BUT HUTTO WAS FOUNDED BY A BLACK GENTLEMAN. I ALSO COME INTO THIS ROOM AND I SEE WE TALK ABOUT DISASTER PREPAREDNESS WHICH MEANS THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER BUT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE TYPE OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY COULD BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER IF WE DO THINGS THAT REPRESENT THAT WE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER.

AS A LOOK AT THE SIGN APPEAR AND SEE THE PILLARS OF HUTTO. THEY ARE QUITE ADMIRE ABOUT ME BUT THEN I GET OUT TO THE LAST ONE THAT SAYS CREATE THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE WHICH BEGS ME A LITTLE GUY THAT KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOMETHING. THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF WHO? WHEN WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL PERSON SIT ON THE DYES AND HAVE AN OBJECT THAT REPRESENTS THE ANIMAL OF A MONKEY WITH BANANAS ON IT. NORMALLY WE HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR. WE HAVE BLACK PEOPLE'S RESIDENCE IN THE CITY WHERE THEY PAY TAXES AND A CITY THAT WAS FOUNDED AND SETTLED UPON FIRST BY BLACK MEN.

I THINK WE KNOW BETTER THAN TO DO ACTIONS LIKE THIS. IF YOU STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE COUNCILPERSON BRIAN THOMPSON I HOPE THAT YOU NOT ONLY REPRIMAND THE MAYOR WITH HIS HEINOUS ACTIONS. I HOPE YOU TAKE A SWIFT AND IS JUST AS ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IN HUTTO HAS SEEN AND HEARD. IT'S PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY CARE ABOUT UNITY AND THEY DO EVERYTHING WITHIN THEIR POWER TO READ THE CITY OF HUTTO'S ORDINANCE AND PROCEDURES AND LAWS. POTENTIALLY GET THE 6000 OR 7000 SIGNATURES THEY NEED TO RECALL THE MAYOR THAT HAS MADE IT GLUTEN THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE. I DON'T LIVE HERE BUT I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN BUT OF THE ROOM AND WHEN I HEAR ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE BEING MISTREATED GIVES ME A REASON TO DRIVE 27 MILES TO COME CHECK ON MY PEOPLE. AGAIN, I HOPE THAT NORMALLY YOU DO WHAT YOU CAN TO REPRESENT BUT I HOPE THE PEOPLE SHALL COME TOGETHER TO SHOW THAT THIS MAN CAN'T REPRESENTATIVE ANY BECAUSE HE CLEARLY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> NEXT WE HAVE ROBIN SUTTON. >> HELLO EVERYONE.HIS IS MY FOUR YEAR ANNIVERSARY AT THE PODIUM. IT FEELS GOOD.

I JUST WANT TO START WITH JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING. HOPEFULLY YOU ARE TAUGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT RULES THIS WEEK.

UNDER RULE OF MAYOR NUMBER 10. LEAVE THE COUNCIL INTO AN EFFECTIVE COHESIVE WORKING TEA . HOW IS ATTACKING COUNCILMEMBERS CREATING THIS? HOW IS LIVE STREAMING AND ATTACKING THE CITY MANAGER AND QUESTIONING HIS ABILITY TO BE ETHICAL RACIST? HOW IS ATTACKING STAFF CREATE THIS? THEN WE GO DOWN TO THE ROLE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHICH

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SERVE AS A MODEL OF LEADERSHIP AND CIVILITY TO THE COMMUNITY. DON'T TALK FOR THE SAKE OF THE CAMERA.INSPIRE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. YOU REPEATEDLY HAVE SAID ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND FROM THE DYES YOU SHOULD NOT TRUST ANYBODY ON THE DAIS.

OVER AND OVER AGAIN. HOW IS THAT INSPIRING THE CITY TO TRUST THEIR LEADERSHIP? YOU OVER AND OVER ATTACK AND SAY THAT CITY HALL IS CORRUPT. HOW IS THAT INSPIRING CONFIDENCE IN THE LEADERSHIP WITH CITY HALL? SEVEN, DEMONSTRATE HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN EVERY ACTION AND STATEMENT. SERIOUSLY.

YOU ALLOWED BANANAS ON THE DAIS WITH A MONKEY. IS THE RINGLEADER OF THE CIRCUS. ANYWAY. YOU POINT OUT THE RULES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. THERE ARE RULES THAT APPLY TO EVERYBODY.

AS THE PLACKET UP THERE ABOUT HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONDUCT OURSELVES ON THE DYES? THE COUNCIL VOTED FOR THEM. NOBODY CARED BECAUSE THE MAYOR DIDN'T CARE.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE BETHANY HOFFMAN.

>> AND WITH MY 10 TO TERRENCE OWENS. >> NEXT WE HAVE TERRENCE

OWENS. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF SINCE WE HAVE A CROWD HERE. MY NAME IS TERRENCE OWENS AND THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. I'VE MADE IT INTENTIONALLY TO MAKE MYSELF A BEACON OF LIFE UPLIFTING OUR COMMUNITY AND DOING THE THINGS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, MEETING PEOPLE AND THEIR PLACES, HAVING CONVERSATIONS, LISTENING TO THEIR STORIES AND SHARING MY STORY.

MAY 25, 2020. GEORGE FORD HAPPENED. IT CHANGE THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD. WE HAVE TO TAKE A POINT TO REFLECT ON THE SERIOUSNESS OF THAT CRIME. WE HAVE TO LOOK INSIDE OURSELVES AND SEE IF WE CAN DO BETTER. THE CITY WAS FAKING AND ASKING THE CITY TO DO THE SAME.

TO COME OUT AND JOIN IN UNITY. JULY 2. THAT COMMITTEE WAS STARTED.

IT IS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION THAT WAS STARTED. COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE PUT ON THAT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MISS WILLIAMS WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE TO BEGIN WITH. THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THE WORK.

THAT FAILED. NOW WE SIT HERE ON AUGUST 31. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE I LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND THIS HAS BEEN A HARD WEEK FOR ME BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS HAPPY.

I'M ALWAYS TAKING THE SIDE CHEEK OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW DO NOT LIKE ME. THE CONVERSATION GOT STARTED.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THEM. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT BEING HEARD ANYMORE.

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EVERY PERSON THAT COMES APPEAR HAS THE RIGHT TO SAYWHAT THEY WANT .

IN ONE SHOULD INITIALLY CRITICIZE BECAUSE SHE HAS THE FIRST MENTAL RIGHT.HE HAS WHAT SHE WANTED TO SAY. THE STUDY WAS DONE IN 1920. THAT PARTICULAR EXPERIMENT WAS SENT AN EMAIL IN 2017 TO ALABAMA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS IS BROUGHT UP. I DON'T NECESSARILY BLAME NICOLE BECAUSE SHE HAS A STORY. SHE HAS A LIFE. WHAT SHE FEELS IN HER MOTHER-IN-LAW AND WHAT HER FAMILY DOES IS ALSO SECOND-STORY.

THOSE BANANAS SAT UP THERE FOR TWO HOURS. WE COULD NOT EVEN SEE THE MAYOR'S FACES. WHEN HE SPOKE WE SAW BANANAS. I'M CALLING OUT COUNCILMEMBERS.

THE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY FOR THE BANANAS TO SIT IN FRONT OF THE MAYOR.

I'M CALLING OUT THE TWO AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING. I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. SHE DOES AND I'M GETTING READY TO SAY THIS. YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT AFTER TWO HOURS OF IT THE NARRATIVE HAVE BEEN CHANGED. WE CAN'T LET THEM TRICK US INTO BEING FEARFUL.

THIS IS NOT MY NATURE. I AM HAPPY-GO-LUCKY LET'S GET ALONG.

LET'S FIND WHAT BRINGS US TOGETHER.'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE GOOD IN INDIVIDUALS.

I'M ASKING THIS COUNSEL FOR THESE THINGS. ONE, I WANT A LINE ITEM.

BE THE COMMUNITY ONCE A LINE ITEM FOR TRAINING FOR THIS COUNSEL THAT HAS BEEN REQUIRED AND REQUESTED FOR OVER A YEAR AND 1/2. FOR THE RECORD IT HAS NOT MET SINCE APRIL. IT HAS NOT HAD A QUORUM FOR FOUR MONTHS.

WE WONDER WHY NO AND WANTS TO SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU ARE NOT INTEGRATING WITH ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER THE COMMUNITY WILL CRUCIFY YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I IMPLORE YOU. I AM BEGGING YOU TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY HEAL. I WAS TOLD THAT COMING UP. SPEAKING WAS JUST GOING TO DIVIDE THIS COMMUNITY. PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME THAT IS NOT MY MO.

I AM ABOUT BEING KUMBAYA AND GETTING TOGETHER AND HAVING A GOOD TIME.

PLEASE, THE BUDGET AND THE OTHER STUFF, THAT'S ON YOU. THERE IS A SOUL IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS HURTING. WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND WE ARE STILL HERE WITH THE MONKEYS. YOU GUYS HAVE A BLIND SPOT AND I THINK IT'S FOR YOUR BENEFIT AND THIS COMMUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND HELP HEAL OF THE COMMUNITY AND DIVIDE.

THANK YOU.

ON IN HUTTO. >> CAN WE GET SOME ORDER MAYOR.

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YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ABOUT BANANAS. >> CAN WE HAVE SOME ORDER IN

THE CHAMBER. >> THIS IS INSANE. I AM SICK OF WALKING ON EGGSHELLS. THIS IS AMERICA WE SHOULD NOT BE LIKE THIS.

IT'S GUYS LIKE YOU THAT RUNTHE COUNCIL . I AM SICK OF IT TOO.

>> MAYOR CAN YOU BRING ORDER SO WE CAN HAVE ORDER IN THE CHAMBER?

>> WHAT'S UP WITH THE MUG SHO ? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE STUFF HERE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MUG SHOT?

>> CAN YOU PLEASE BE REMOVED. [APPLAUSE] >> I'M A TAX PLAYER I LIVE IN HUTTO. IT'S AMERICA WITH FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? >> IT'S AN UNTRUE ALLEGATION THAT I WAS COMPLETELY

EXONERATED FROM. >> BUT YOU WENT TO JAIL CORRECT?

>> EXCUSE ME PUBLIC, THIS IS NOT A TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> I WILL SEE THE NEXT MEETING I'M DONE.

[APPLAUSE] X NEXT WE HAVE PAMELA RICKEL. >> NEXT WE HAVE DOCTOR MURRAY'S CONTRACT. ASK I READ A LOT AND STUDY AND DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ANDWRITING . ONE THING I CAN WARN YOU OF, NOT WARREN LET ME TAKE THAT BACK, A SCIENTIFIC FACT. EINSTEIN PROVES THAT FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION. TO THESE THINGS PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP ALREADY, SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH LLOYD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH YOU SAW THE REACTION.

LET'S HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS. WHEN OBAMA BECAME PRESIDENT. THE REACTION WAS SARAH PALIN, THE TEA PARTY AND DON'T TREAD ON ME. WHEN FLOYD CAME UP IN THAT SITUATION OCCURRED WHEN HE WAS KILLED THE REACTION WAS BLACK LIVES MATTER.

TODAY WE HAVE MAG A AND SO FORTH.I THINK WE ARE. AND BY THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY SO THAT YOU KNOW IS THE MAJORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.THIS COMMUNITY IS A PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THAT YOU INSULT ONE SECTION OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

I DIDN'T GET IT. ANYWAYS I WOULD TELL YOU I MENTIONED YOU WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS YOU WHO THEY ARE BELIEVE THEM. AS SHOWN YOU WHO HE IS.

AT FIRST WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VOTE. IS THAT ALLOWED HERE TODAY? A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE CAN WE DO THAT TODAY YES, SIR NO? TELL ME SOMETHING.

>> IT HAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA. >> BUT FOR SURE IF YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED I AM A DEPUTY REGISTERED. MIKE OUT. YOU SHOWN US WHO YOU ARE.

THE GENTLEMAN SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NOT LIKING SOMEBODY. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME.

BECAUSE I'M BLACK YOU DON'T KNOW ME. YOU DON'T LIKE US BECAUSE WE ARE BLACK. ARE YOU GOING TO START CALLING NAMES SOME POLITICIANS CALL

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>> YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS MORE. >> NEXT WE HAVE TONY DO. >> GOOD EVENING I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ABOUT TAXATION. THE GOVERNMENT HAS A MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE.

TAXATION IS JUST THEFT BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN ENFORCE IT.

>> HELLO EVERYONE.I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT THIS SHIRT AND SAY IT'S FUNNY. I DEFINITELY PEOPLE. I'VE MADE AMENDS TO SOME MADE AMENDS TO PLACE ONE. THESE FIVE. AND WORKING ON IT WITH THE EX-MAYOR. IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF HUTTO SNYDER.

IT IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS ONGOING WITH BULLYING AND CYBER BILLING WHICH I'VE ARTIE BEEN THREATENED WITH HIS RESTRAINING ORDER TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR'S WIFE OWNS ANTHONY'S PIZZA. THE CITY FOR HAVE ITS HARASSMENT BASED ON RACE, RELIGION, SEX AND NATIONAL ORIGIN. WAS GENETIC INFORMATION WITH CHARACTERISTICS. THEY ARE HARMFUL WITHIN THE WORKING ENVIRONMENT AND WHEREAS THESE PERSONNEL POLICY PROHIBIT VERBAL OR PHYSICAL CONDUCT THAT SINGLES OUT, DISINTEGRATES OR SHOWS HOSTILITY TOWARD SOMEONE BECAUSE OF RACE, RELIGION, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, VETERAN STATUS, CITIZENSHIP OR ANY OTHER CHARACTERISTIC PROTECTED BY LAW.

PROHIBITED CONDUCT INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO SLURS AND NEGATIVE STEREOTYPING.

COMMENTS AND WRITINGS OR PICTURES THAT SINGLE OUT DENIGRATE OR SHOW HOSTILITY OR AVERSION TOWARDS SOMEONE BASED ON A PROTECTED CHARACTERISTIC AND WHEREAS THE CITY PERSONNEL POLICY REQUIRES REPORTING OF SUCH CONDUCT OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND WHEREAS THE CITY EDUCATION CODE GENERALLY DEFINES BULLYING AS A SINGLE SIGNIFICANT ACT OR PATTERN OF ACT BY ONE OR MORE INDIVIDUALS DIRECTED BY ANOTHER THAT EXPLOITS AN IMBALANCE OF POWER AND INVOLVES ENGAGING WRITTEN OR VERBAL EXPRESSION THROUGH ELECTRONIC MEANS OR PHYSICAL CONDUCT WHICH HAS THE EFFECT OF PHYSICALLY HARMING AN INDIVIDUAL. DAMAGING AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY OR PLACING AN INDIVIDUAL IN A REASONABLE SHARE OF HARM TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S PERSONAL OR DAMAGE TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY OR IS SUFFICIENTLY FOR SEVERE, PERSISTENT OR PRECISE PERVASIVE ENOUGH WITH THE ACTION CREATES AN INTIMIDATING THREATENING ABUSIVE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL. IT'S AN INTERNET WEBSITE OR ANY

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RESOLVED THIS DAY MAY 5 2022. SIGNED MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR. >> I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT CARD

FOR YOU. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? >> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS ANISHA WILLIAMS. I'M A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF HUTTO.

>> I LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. IN 2012 I SAW AMERICA CHEER FOR THE DEATH OF TRAVE ON MARTIN. IT RAISED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THE PERSON THAT MURDERED A YOUNG BLACK TEENAGER WALKING DOWN THE STREET. I HAD JUST HAD TWO BABIES.

TWO BLACK BOYS AND WONDERED OH MY GOD HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK DOWN THE STREET.

THE FEAR, THE PARALYSIS THAT YOU FEEL IS ALL BLACK. IN AMERICA.

THE WORK THAT I ASK MYSELF, WHAT CAN I DO TO FIGHT SUCH A BIG THING BECAUSE I AM A MOM AND YOU DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR KIDS. WE HAVE DONE GOOD.

WE CLEAN UP THE CEMETERY WHERE IT WAS DUMPED DECADES AND DECADES OF TRASH THAT PEOPLE KNEW WAS HAPPENING OVER VETERAN'S GRAVE. AFTER SCHOOL WE HAVE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS AND ESSAYS OF WORDS THE CITIZENS OF DIFFERENT RACES AND TYPES.

MY QUESTION IS ESPECIALLY AS I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE BEHIND ME BUT DO GOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY MY QUESTION IS DOES THE GOOD OUTWEIGH THE BAD? I THINK HUTTO IS A RACIST TOWN? I GAVE AN ANSWER IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHEN YOU SEE THOSE PICTURES WHERE YOU SEE THE DOUBTS AND YOU DON'T SEE THE IMAGE AT FIRST BUT IF YOU LOOK REALLY HARD AND YOU SQUINT AND TURN YOUR HEAD THIS WAY YOU SEE IT. I HAVE SEEN IT CLEARLY.

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WE ARE NOT REPRESENTED ON THE DAIS. NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT REPRESENTED BY OUR MAYOR BUT I CAN SAY THAT IN THAT 5 MILE RADIUS THIS HAS BEEN THE CORE AND THIS HAS BEEN THE CENTER. WHAT GOOD IS THE CENTER IF WE HAVE PEOPLE ACCEPTING IT BEING ROTTEN? IN WHAT WORLD DO I LIVE IN WHERE I CAN COST THE CITY AS A BLACK WOMAN $12.5 MILLION. IN WHAT WORLD COULD I RUN OFF THE WOMEN IN THE CITY COUNCIL AND IN WHAT WORLD COULD I SAY THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID MR. MAYOR AND STILL KEEP MY JOB BECAUSE IF I DO REMEMBER I WAS ON THE COMMISSION THAT I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING THAT WAS UNPROFESSIONAL OR DEROGATORY OR DISCRIMINATORY AND YET I WAS CONSIDERED TO BE THROWN OUT.

AND HIMSELF THAT STEREOTYPICAL OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT EDUCATING INTELLIGENT BLACK WOMEN. I AM ASKING MR. GORDON AND MR. THORNTON SPECIFICALLY SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE ALSO BEEN THE MAIN STAGE DOES THE GOOD OUTWEIGH THE BAD? IN MY CASE I STILL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MY CHILDREN WALKING DOWN THE STREET.

I STILL DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MY CHILDREN BEING PROTECTED BY THE SYSTEMS IN THE CITY. I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK.

I'M ASKING MR. SNYDER OF GETTING 6000 SIGNATURES CAN YOU PLEASE RESIGN? [APPLAUSE] THAT IS THE GOOD THAT CAN HAPPEN FROM THIS SITUATION.

GOING BACK AND BEING HERE IS HUNTING, TAUNTING, HARASSING, IT'S THE SAME AS GOING TO WORK AND HANGING A NOOSE AT YOUR DESK. HAVING BANANAS AND A MONKEY SITTING WHERE YOU RESIGNED TO DO THE WORK. A BLACK MAN NOR A BLACK WOMAN NOR ANY OTHER CITIZEN SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS IN THE CHARTER, I DO APPRECIATE BEING A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

IN THE CHARTER SECTION 1309 PROHIBITION NUMBER ONE SAYS NO PERSON SHALL BE APPOINTED OR REMOVED OR IN FAVOR WITH DISCRIMINATION IN RESPECT TO ANY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES BECAUSE OF RACE, SEX, POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS OPINIONS. THE PENALTY FOR THAT IS ANY PERSON WHO EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR WITH OTHERS WILLFULLY VIOLATES ANY PROVISION OR GOING SECTION SHALL BE INELIGIBLE. OF FOUR YEARS AND IF SUCH PERSON IS AN OFFICER OR PERSON OF THE CITY HE OR SHE SHALL FORFEIT SUCH PERSONS HOLDS.IF YOU ARE A LEADER YOU SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND YOU SHOULD HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE. PLEASE RESIGN.

THANK YOU. >> THAT BRINGS US ITEM 81. THE MONTHLY PERMIT PROJECTS.

[17.1. General Comments from City Council]

>> MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PULL 17.1. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS WE

WILL MOVE 17.1 UP. >> I HAVE A STATEMENT WILL GO TO 17 ONE GENERAL COMMENTS FROM

CITY COUNCIL. >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ MY PREPARED STATEMENT.

I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED AND DISAPPOINTED AND I STRONGLY CONDEMN LESS WEEKS COMMENT THAT SAW THE MAYOR ACCEPT A GIFT OF BANANAS HANGING FROM A MONKEY STAND WHILE TWO AFRICAN-AMERICAN COUNCILMEMBERS SAT ON THE DAIS IN THE PRESENCE OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITY

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ACCEPTING A GIFT OF BANANAS IS A HISTORIC RACIST SAID WILL DEHUMANIZE AFRICAN-AMERICANS NOT ONLY DISRESPECTING MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER WILL CUT BUT ALSO UNDERMINING THE TRUST AND INCLUSIVITY FOR GOVERNANCE. WITH THE FOUNDATION OF A $12.5 MILLION RACIAL JUDGMENT AGAINST THE CITY OF HUTTO LAST WEEK SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS AN ONSLAUGHT OF IGNORANCE.

ACTS OF RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION HAVE NO PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY AND WE MUST STAND UNITED AGAINST THEM. THEY ARE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GRAVITY OF THIS INCIDENT CAN TAKE THESE THREE IMMEDIATE STEPS TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. NUMBER ONE.

ISSUE A PUBLIC APOLOGY FROM THE DAYS NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER WILL CUT ALONG WITH AN APOLOGY TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR THE OFFENSE CAUSED.

STEP TWO, I BELIEVE MAYOR SNYDER MUST ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN AND LEAD EFFORTS TO EDUCATE HIMSELF AND OTHERS ABOUT THE HISTORICAL CONTENT AND IMPACT OF STEREOTYPES.

STEP THREE. THIS INCIDENT COUPLED WITH A 2023 $12.5 MILLION RACIAL DISCRIMINATION JUDGMENT HIGHLIGHTS THE GROWING NEED IN OUR CITY CULTURAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING DIVERSITY EDUCATION FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. COMPLETING TRAINING LIKE THIS IS THE BARE MINIMUM WHICH WE HAVE YET TO DO AS A COUNSEL. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ACTIONS OF THE MAYOR HAVE NOT SHOWN GROWTH. I CALL UPON OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS INCLUDING THE MAYOR AND MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS DEMONSTRATE TRUE LEADERSHIP AND DID NONSENSE INCIDENT UNEQUIVOCALLY AND TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION.

I EXPECT, I DEMAND MAYOR SNYDER TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO TRY AND REPAIR THE TRUST THAT THIS STUDENT HAS ERODED. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR SPEAKING.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. I GOT INTO THE COMMUNITY WORK WHEN I FIRST MOVE AND MY SON WAS IN KINDERGARTEN HE WAS CALLED A SNICKER IN SCHOOL. IN MEETING WITH HIS PARENTS THE RESPONSE WAS WELL ISN'T HE? I'VE BEEN ASKED TO STEP DOWN I WOULD BE HURT BECAUSE WE DON'T BELONG ON THIS COUNSEL. X YES YOU DO. WE ELECTED YOU.

>> I HAVE REMOVED MYSELF FROM MAKING ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, THANK YOU MR. SAMPSON BECAUSE I HAVE CHILDREN TO TAKE CARE OF AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.THIS IS STUPIDITY AND IT'S RIDICULOUS. LIKE TONY SHE SAID.IS THE GOOD OUTWEIGH THE BAD? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR SUPPORTING US THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTED.

[APPLAUSE]. X ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL?

>> HERE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. THE BANANAS COMING UP. THE SYMBOLISM THAT THAT PERSON WAS TRYING TO PRESENT TO EVERYONE, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE WHERE IT COULD BE TAKEN.

DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM IT. THOSE STAYING THERE WAS NOT

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MEANT TO BE A SLIGHT ON ANY PERSON OR COMMUNITY. >> YOU SHOULD KNOW.

NEXT I WILL CONTINUE LATER. X NO APOLOGY. WE WILL GO TO ITEM 81.

[8.1. Monthly Capital Improvement Projects Update Presentation (Matt Rector)]

EXCAVATING MAYOR FOR THE RECTOR AND MATT RECTOR THE CITY ENGINEER.

JUST A REMINDER WE WILL FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION PROCESS. THE FIRST ONE IS 1660 NORTH.

THAT ONE IS GOING AS YOU KNOW WE JUST DID A CHANGE ORDER BECAUSE OF THE STORM DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE FOUND THAT WERE IN PLACE.WE ARE JUST PUSHING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION. WE HAVE A COMPLETION DATE OF OCTOBER 31.

I AMHOPING THAT WE CAN BEAT THAT . I WOULD RATHER UNDER PROMISE AND OVER DELIVER. THE NEXT ONE IS 1660 AT LIMBURG LOOP.

THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE GETTING THESE PROJECTS MOVING. THE NEXT ONE IS LAKESIDE ESTATES.

WE HAVE AWARDED THAT CONTRACT AND IN THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING SO IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT ONE AND ANTICIPATING COMPLETION IN DECEMBER JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS. AGAIN TRYING TO PUSH THEM FASTER.

I WOULD RATHER UNDER PROMISE AND OVER DELIVER. THEN WE HAVE THE CR 132 OVERPASS. AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THE LAST WORKSHOP WE PRESENT AT THE COUNCIL FOR THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT THE FIRST OPTION WHICH WAS THE REGULAR TEXAS TURNAROUND OVERPASS WAS THE BEST OPTION.

I HAVE DIRECTED CARVER TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THAT OPTION AND TO START GOING INTO FIRE ANALYZING THEIR ENGINEER REPORT. EDDIE SMITH.

EARLIER THIS YEAR THE COUNCIL AWARDED A CONTRACT TO DO THE SAFETY STUDY.

THAT REPORT IS NOT COMPLETE. WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT. WE WILL BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ON THE 921MEETING . CR 199 REPAIRS IS COMPLETE. WE GOT THE CONTRACTOR OUT THERE AND THEY DID THE OVERLAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL?

[8.2. Police Department Quarterly Update (Chief Jeff Yarbrough)]

>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS PRESENTATION. >> NEXT WE HAVE A POINT TO THE

POLICE DEPARTMENTQUARTERLY UPDATE . >> HE JUST STEPPED OUT.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD I'M JEFF YARBOROUGH THE CHIEF POLICE. I WANTED TO COME UP FOR YOU THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE DEPARTMENT UPDATE REGARDING THE STATUS OF A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M GLAD THEY FIXED THE DATE. I KNOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A QUARTERLY UPDATE. IT'S A LITTLE LATE ON GETTING BACK TO YOU SO YOU WILL SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER BUT MOVING FORWARD REALLY DOING THE QUARTERLY UPDATE SO THIS HAS DATA FROM JANUARY 1 THROUGH JULY 31. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT I WANT TO EXPRESS. IT'S OF GREAT INTEREST.

I WANT TO TALK YOU FOR THE DEPARTMENTS CRIME STATISTICS FROM JANUARY 1 TO JULY 31.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT INTERVENTION INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN THE CITY THAT WE THINK ARE VERY TIMELY RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT TO ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR GROWING CITY. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT STAFFING ISSUES. IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED PARTICULARLY YOU TAKE HOUSE BILL THREE WERE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ARMED SECURITY PERSONNEL .

WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A DEPLETED POOL AND YOU HAVE NO DESIRES OR INTERESTS OR NEEDS THAT CREATES AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE. ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT RECRUITING INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING HERE IN THE CITY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEF ACCREDITATION PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT TO RAISE OUR STANDARDS AND ALIGN WITH WHAT IS DESIGNATED AS BEST PRACTICES IN THE STATE. I'M GOING TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CRIME STATS AS OF JULY 31 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HOMICIDE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS A RARITY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S A TRAGEDY. THE SAMPLE SIZE IS SMALL. IF YOU HAVE ONE WITH THAT POPULATION THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS 100 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE AT LAST YEAR.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE HABITATION AND THAT NUMBER YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS YEAR SHOWS 13 SEE YOU ARE SEEING 44% INCREASE. SOME PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THAT'S A SMALL NUMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CONSIDER THE PER CAPITA WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT POPULATION NUMBER.

LET ME UNPACK THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. OF THOSE 13 NINE OF THOSE REPORTS WERE UNINHABITED HOMES THAT WERE ACTUALLY BEING BUILT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL HOME BURGLARY THAT WE COMMONLY KNOW AS BURGLARY THE NUMBER IS EXTREMELY LOW AND WE ARE PROUD OF THAT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I COULD SAY THAT THE POLICE ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR. IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR COMMUNITY DOES WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS MANY SEE THAT IT DOES MY HEART GOOD BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN PLACES WHERE THAT WOULD BE A LOW NUMBER IN ONE MONTH.

WHEN YOU TAKE A PHOTO AND YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER AT SOMETHING THAT I TRULY FIND REMARKABLE AND IS A TESTAMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. BURGLARS OF A BUILDING.

AGAIN A LOT OF THOSE CAN BE A STORE OR HOME THAT'S BEING BUILT.

SOMEONE CAN GO AND TAKE ITEMS FROM THAT. WE GOT A LOT MORE BUILDING GOING ON AND WE HAVE HAD SOME GROUPS THAT GO FROM CITY TO CITY AROUND CENTRAL TEXAS AND SOME FROM OUTSIDE THAT HAVE COME IN. THEY ARE OPPORTUNISTS AND THEY HAVE BENNETT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THAT

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LET ME UNPACK THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. WE HAD ONE LAST YEAR.

WHAT THAT IS IS WE HAD TWO INCIDENTS WHERE WE HAD A ROBBERY EACH INVOLVING TWO PEOPLE. SHE DID KNOW THAT ON BOTH OF THOSE INCIDENTS INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND SO WE HAVE 100% ARREST RATES OF THOSE THAT HAVE ENGAGED IN THAT.

AGAIN ONE OF THOSE GOES BACK TO BEING A TESTAMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAD OF TRADITION, AND RESPOND EFFECTIVELY TO MAKE THAT INDIVIDUAL.

AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CONTRADICT POPULAR DID THE BELIEF THEY CAN BE EVERYWHERE. ALTHOUGH WE TRY TO BE PROACTIVE YOU CAN'T PREVENT YOUR REQUIRED RESPONSE. OUR RESPONSE IS TO THE LEVEL THAT WE GET THE RISK SUPPORT, RESOURCES AND PROFESSIONALISM THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

>> AS OF JULY THE DOES THAT MEAN WE COULD HAVE MORE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR? WE POSSIBLY COULD BUT WE WILL HANDLE THOSE IF GOD FOR THAT WE HAVE A SITUATION THAT OCCURS WHERE WE HAVE ANOTHER AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY WONDER WHAT IS AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.F YOU WANT TO USE A WEAPON OR IF THE PERSON SUFFERS SERIOUS BODILY INJURY THOSE CAN BE CONSIDERED AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF FACTORS THAT CAN CREATE THE DESIGNATION FOR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.WE HAVE A LOWER NUMBER OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS IN THE CITY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE GROUPS THAT GO AROUND FROM CITY TO CITY AND THEY FOCUS ON OPPORTUNITIES MEANING THEY WILL GO AND TRY DOORS AND IF THOSE DOORS ARE NOT LOCKED THEY WILL GO IN AND BURGLARIZE THOSE VEHICLES PRIMARILY LOOKING FOR WEAPONS. THEY STRUGGLE WITH IT.

FORTUNATELY HERE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO OR THE TENANTS HAVE INSTILLED AND RAISED IN OUR SERGEANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PATROL OFFICERS ARE GOING OUT AND PROACTIVELY PATROLLING TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS AND HAVE LED TO A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ARRESTS FOR THOSE THAT ARE ENGAGED IN BURGLARY OF MOTOR VEHICLES. THAT IS A TYPICAL TREND THAT YOU WILL SEE. YOU DO HAVE AN INCREASE OF CURIOSITY THAT OCCUR WITH OPPORTUNITIES LOOKING FOR VEHICLES TO FIND QUICK VALUABLES.

CRIMINAL TRESPASS NUMBERS ARE DOWN FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. THEFT.

FORTUNATELY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO DATE WE ARE SEEING A DROP IN THE NUMBER OF THEFTS THAT WE ARE HAVING. IT WAS A TIMER WE HAD INDIVIDUALS COME IN TO STEAL GASOLINE AND WE WERE ABLE TO CATCH IT INDIVIDUAL THAT ONE OF OUR CONVENIENT STORES STEALING GAS OUT OF THE AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUMP THE GASOLINE FROM THE TRUCKS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT THE DRUG POSSESSION HAS.

THOSE ARE LOWER TO DATE. ASSAULT IS LOWER. JUST GOING THROUGH THE LIST YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THOSE ARE LOWER AND I WANT TO GET DOWN TO WHERE YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF TOTAL OFFENSIVE THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE WRITTEN. WE HAVE 1365.

THAT IS PRETTY COOL. YOU'RE NOT HAVING ONE MORE CRIME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AND WE GET TO TALK ABOUT STAFFING IT IS A TESTAMENT OF HOW CAN OUR

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YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBERS CURRENTLY ARE 19,000 5000 BUT THAT'S AS OF JULY 31.

IF YOU WERE TO TREND THAT OUT THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND THAT SAME.

IF YOU ARE TO SEE THE MONTHLY NUMBERS THEY WILL PROBABLY BE AROUND THE SAME OR A LITTLE BIT

MORE. >> CHIEF I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THERE IS SOMEONE THAT COMMITS AN OFFENSE THEYCONNECT MULTIPLE OFFENSES. THERE NUMBER IN EACH OF THOSE ROWS ? IF YOU HAVE A DRUNK DRIVER LIKE A NUMBER IN EACH OF THOSE? SOME OF THESE COULD BE HERE INCIDENTS? THEY ARE TALKED ABOUT WAYS THAT YOU CAUGHT IT? LIKE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER HE UNDERSTANDS AND WE UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. THAT IS THE DATA THAT WE DO DEEPER DIVES AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND ARE ABLE TO SIGN SOME OF THE CRIME ANALYST DUTIES. WE ARE ABLE TO BREAK THAT DOWN AND WE SIMPLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY AT THIS POINT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF THESE FREE OFFENSES AND CHARGES RELATED TO ONE INDIVIDUAL.

ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE ASK US WHAT IS IT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC AND SLOW

TRAFFIC DOWN? >> WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND STUFF EVERYONE WE WANT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS VERY PROACTIVE AND OFFICERS WILL TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE ONE OF THE GREATEST OPTIONS IN REDUCING THE DESIRE TO DRIVE RECKLESSLY OR ANXIOUSLY IT AUTOMATICALLY REDUCES THEIR RESPONSE TO THEIR DESIRE TO ENGAGE IN A TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.

WE ARE WORKING AS WE GO THROUGH IT WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE SEEING A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL AND THEN GOT IT'S NOT THE TRAIN THAT COMES THROUGH YOUR EVERYDAY. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY SO WE ARE SEEING THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING AND I WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

ONCE WE HAVE A FULL TIME IT GIVES OUR OFFICERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THOSE CALLS IN RESPONSE TO QUICKLY REDUCE RESPONSE TIME BUT IT ALSO KEEPS THEM FROM HAVING TO DIVERT WHEN YOU HAVE A MAJOR TRAFFIC INCIDENT THAT REQUIRES MORE THAN ONE OFFICER TO SAFELY ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. WE ARE LOOKING AT WOULD COMPLETE THAT BILL THAT WOULD SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. VICTIM SERVICES.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW VALUABLE THIS IS. I REMEMBER WHEN THE CITY MANAGER FIRST GOT HERE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. I THOUGHT I WOULD BE THE ONE TO

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WE HAD A VARIETY OF ISSUES THAT COME UP DAILY. WE HAVE A SITUATION TODAY WHERE VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATING AS THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT TO THE FAMILY.

THEY PROVIDE THAT INTERACTION WITH VICTIMS OF CRIME TO GET THEM CONNECTED WITH THE RESOURCES WE NEED. AS OF JANUARY 1 OF JULY 31 AT ONE VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR THAT WE HAVE HAS HANDLED OVER 106 CALLS. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT A LOT OF THE WORK THAT SHE DOES A LOT MORE LABOR-INTENSIVE THAN TAKING A REPORT LIKE BACK IN SERVICE. I'M GOING TO EXTEND IT PAST THAT.

I WILL EXTENDED TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE CITY. IT MAKES ME PROUD TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY DO AND DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. I WILL NEVER FORGET THE FACT THAT OUR OFFICERS IN THE CITY NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE PUT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE AND THAT'S IT WE CONTINUE TO FOSTER IN OUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE IS DIRECTLY TRANSLATED TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED AT VALLEY QUICK STRONG TECHNOLOGY.

PEOPLE WILL SAY YOU CAN GET OUT THERE AND GET SOME PRETTY VIDEOS.

WE MAY TRY THAT LATER BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW.

IT IS BEEN A REALLY GOOD TOOL. SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE THAN DESIRED BY OTHER AGENCIES FOR OUR SERVICES THAT WE INITIALLY THOUGHT. OUR DRONE PILOT CARPENTER IS THE FIRST DRONE PILOT THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR DEPARTMENT. INITIALLY WHEN HE GOT THE DRONE HE WAS CALLED OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR SERVICE BY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

HE WAS ABLE TO DEPLOY THE DRONE'S I ASKED HIM HOW LONG IT TAKES.

ONCE HE TAKES IT OUT OF THE BOX HE IS UP AND GONE IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES.

HE WAS ABLE TO ASSIST ANOTHER AGENCY THAT WAS OUT FOR DISTURBANCE AND WHILE THEY WERE THERE THE OFFICERS HAD SHOTS FIRED. THE DRONE WAS ABLE TO GET UP AND HE WAS ABLE TO WATCH AND MONITOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND GET OFFICERS THERE WERE THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE DIRECTION. ALSO WITH MISSING PERSONS THAT IS SOMETHING WE USE RECENTLY WITH THE PERSON WHO WAS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT THERE WAS A MEDICAL CONCERN THAT LEFT THE HOME AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE HIS RESOURCES AND THAT IS A TREMENDOUS ADDED VALUE FOR THAT. A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE STARTING TO USE DRONES AND SOME OF THEM HAVE FOUND PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC BUT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY WILL HAVE THE OFFICER DEPLOY THE DRONE, FLY OVER AND SEE WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

THE DRONE CAN TYPICALLY GET THERE BEFORE OFFICERS CAN AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THE ASSESSMENT SO THAT OFFICERS KNOW THE PROPER APPROACH AND HOW TO RESOLVE IT.

THEY GO OUT AND FLY THE DRONE TAKE A LOOK IT'S NOT THERE. THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES AND SOLUTIONS THAT WE SEE WITH THIS ADDED VALUE BOXES IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY VIDEO OF ACTUAL FIREWORKS GOING OFF IN THE CITY AND THEN YOU CAN ISSUE CITATIONS?

>> THAT'S VERY GOOD. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO EXPLORE.

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ONE OF OUR OFFICERS RECENTLY COMPLETED THE EMT TRAINING. OUR FIRE CHIEF CAN TELL YOU THAT THE VALUE OF HAVING AN OFFICER UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING HOW TO ADDRESS AN INDIVIDUAL IN CRISIS WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE IN MEDICAL CRISIS OR HAVING ISSUES WITH HEART ATTACKS THAT OFFICERS HAVE BEEN ON SCENE BECAUSE THEY GET THERE OR EMS OR FIRE AND THEY ARE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE LIFE UNTIL EMT AND THE PARAMEDICS ARE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND TAKE OVER. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

WE THANK GOD FOR AND BECAUSE SHE IS HELPED US IDENTIFY STATE FUNDING THAT WE CAN USE BECAUSE AS WE BUILD OUR DEPARTMENT WE HAVE OTHER OFFICERS THAT WANT TO EXPLORE THAT IN GOING TO THAT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR PEOPLE I DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

>> I SAW AN ARTICLE THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY HAD RAISED THEIR PAY FOR OFFICERS.

FANTASY AND THE CHALLENGE OF HIRING, WHAT IS OUR PAY SCALE COMPARED TO IF YOU KNOW THAT AND ALSO IS THAT INCREASE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY HINDERING ANY EFFORTS THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM

ARE MAKING AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT? >> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME THAT I CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY. I DO KNOW THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT WHERE THEY ARE AT THIS TIME. IT IS A CHALLENGE.

HWHEN I PRESENTED WOULD BE FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAKING HUNDRED $20 PER HOUR THAT ARE

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IF THOSE MAKE IT THROUGH THE BACKGROUND PROCESS AND THOSE CANDIDATES WILL REDUCE FROM A NUMBER OF VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS FILLING THOSE AND THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS IN THE CITY THAT WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO GIVE US THE WIND BEHIND OUR SALES TO PUSH US FORWARD TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE ENCLOSING THOSE.WE ALSO HAVE SIX STAFF THAT INCLUDES THE TWO CONTROLS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT WE HAVE A RECEPTIONIST WITH ONE ADMIN ASSISTANT THAT WORKS FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR SWORN POLICE OFFICERS IN THOSE NUMBERS WILL GET US TO A POSITION ONCE WE MEET REACH THAT MOUNTAINTOP WE CAN EXCEL FOR A BIT.

WE CAN PUT OUR SHOULDER AND KEEP PUSHING. I THINK THAT WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE AS FAR AS REMOVING AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A COUNSEL WORKING COLLECTIVELY RECOGNIZING AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEEDS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT AND THEY ARE STRUGGLING TRYING TO MAKE IT AND ANOTHER YEAR BECOMES ANOTHER YEAR AND ANOTHER YEAR BECOMES ANOTHER YEAR AND THEY END UP WITH FEWER OFFICERS AND WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL THAT WE DO HERE WITH THE CITY MANAGER. SOME OF OUR RECRUITING INITIATIVES.

SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T KNEEL THAT MUCH BECAUSE AGAIN TO YOUR POINT COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK IS WHAT DO YOU PAY BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK IN THIS AREA.

THAT IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH BUT WE ARE MAKING SOME INTERIMS AND I'M SURE THAT YOU WILL SEE THE FRUIT OF OUR LABOR SOON ENOUGH. WE HOST A CADET PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF PORTO AND WE PUT CADETS INTO THE ACADEMY LIKE E .

WE ALSO SEND THEM TO ACADEMIES THAT ARE HOSTED BY THE ROANOKE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE A RECRUITMENT TEAM AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SENT THEM TO TRAINING SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES OF HOW TO ATTRACT QUALITYOFFICERS . WE ALSO HAVE THEM ATTENDING THE PEACE OFFICER ACADEMY AROUND THE AREA TO FIND THOSE THAT ARE NOT SPONSORED.

WE PUT ON THE BEST SHOW WE POSSIBLY CAN. IF I HAVE TO DO SOME DANCING WE MAY LOSE THEM BUT I WILL DO WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO GET QUALITY OFFICERS.

ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAINING EVENTS.

HE TRAINS FOR THE ADVANCED LAW ENFORCEMENT METHOD RAPID ROOT PONDS TRAINING ASSESSMENT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. IT'S LIKE YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY

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REST ASSURED I WAS DOING SOME RECRUIT.HAT'S JUST HOW HE WROTE.

CREATE SOME CADET RECRUITMENT FLYERS AND THAT'S WHAT WE SENT OUT.

MR. THOMPSON I KNOW YOU SAID THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU DID WITH THE RECRUITMENT FLYERS BUT WE STARTED IT. ANYTHING THAT HE DID HIGHLIGHT HUTTO AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LET THEM KNOW TO COME JOIN THESUPERHEROES . WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.THE TEXAS POLICE ASSOCIATION ACCREDITATION PROGRAM. WHEN I FIRST STARTED.

THERE WAS SOME WORK BEING DONE ON THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT WAS CONSIDERED BEST PRACTICES. NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED TO A WHIM OR YOU CAN BENEFIT ONE INDIVIDUAL OVER ANOTHER.

MY POSITION IS ALWAYS WAY TO HAVE STANDARDS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE INPUT FROM THOSE THAT ARE IN THIS AGENCY THAT NOW. AT THE END OF THE DAY I TELL MY PATROL OFFICERS AND OUR CORPORALS AND SERGEANTS. I DON'T SEE WHAT YOU SEE. IN ORDER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE HAVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR INPUT. I HAVE TO LOOK FROM MANY ANGLES AND TAKE THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ME I A DHSS BE THE BEST IDEA BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT US. IN OUR DEPARTMENT WHEN WE DO THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION ACCREDITATION PROGRAM IT IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RAISE THE STANDARDS AND THE STATUS OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

CURRENTLY IT IS A STRINGENT PROCESS. THERE ARE LESS THAN 200 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE CURRENTLY ACHIEVE THAT.

STARTED THAT IN MAY. LIEUTENANT COLONEL METRO AND MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND POA HAVE GIVEN INPUT AND ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE TEXT POLICE CHIEF ASSOCIATION BEST PRACTICES ARE. WE ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE OUR ACCREDITATION BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE BEEN WORKING ON AND WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A COLORADO SET IN THE LAST GAME WE ARE COMING.

IT'S TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE NOT THAT LITTLE BITTY DEPARTMENT OR THAT LITTLE BITTY TOWN THAT WE ONCE WERE. WE ARE ULTIMATELY LOOKING TO SEE. TO QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL GRANTS THAT WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE OTHERWISE? AT ANY BENEFITS THAT COME WITH VETERANS THAT MANY JUST

RECRUITING? >> THERE ARE NO GRANTS TIED TO IT AT THIS POINT.

ONCE WE HAVE OUR ACCREDITATION YOU HAVE OFFICERS THAT WORK IN OTHER AGENCIES AND THEY COME INTO HER DEPARTMENT AND THEY KNOW THE EXPECTATIONS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WONDER HOW MY GOING TO BE DISENFRANCHISED BECAUSE THE CHIEF LIKES THIS GUY OVER ME? THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND THE PRACTICES ARE CONSISTENT. IT AGAIN PROVIDES ADDED VALUE TO OUR OFFICERS AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OKAY YOU HAVE THESE CHIEFS AND ATTORNEYS THAT ARE CREATED THE STAFF. YOU DON'T HAVE CHIEFS YARBOROUGH SITTING IN THE BREAK ROOM WRITING THIS STUFF DOWN ON MY. IT TAKES THE UNCERTAINTY THAT OFFICERS HAVE AND BUILDS CONFIDENCE TO WORK IN AN AGENCY THAT HAS MET THE STANDARD FOR

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THE STATE. >> RETENTION SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD OPTION TWO.

>> ABSOLUTELY SIR.A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DO IN BUSINESS LIST IS NOT EXHAUSTED WHERE PROUD TO HOST THE POLICE ACADEMY AND EXCITED ABOUT IN A COUPLE WEEKS WILL BE DOING THE UNIVERSITY. WE CREATED THIS SAFE PROJECT WHERE WE PROVIDED OUR SERVICES TO OUR CHURCHES AND CHILDCARE FACILITIES. WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND PROVIDE TRAINING NEXT WEEK. HAT'S A RESPONSE THE ACTIVE SHOOTER EVENTS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE OUR ENVIRONMENT SUCH TO WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNWILLING VICTIM IS A SITUATION THIS IS WHAT WOULD YOU DO.

WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND TO HOLD THE FORT BEFORE WE GET THERE. WE ARE PART OF THE CHRIS KELLY 5K MEMORIAL RUN.

I DO LEGISLATIVE TESTIMONY ON PUBLIC AND SCHOOL SAFETY. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT WE ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND WHAT WE DO AND WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN THE DECISION-MAKING TO SEE OKAY HOTELS ON THE MAP.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED. WE ARE SMALL RELATIVELY SPEAKING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OURSELVES WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. THOUGH I AM SEEN STEEP SHOOT OUR OFFICERS GO IN AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT. I'M ZERO FOR 10 SO DON'T GO BACK BUT THEY ARE DOING SOME PRETTY GOOD WORK. WE ARE PART OF THE JULY 4 CELEBRATION I WAS OUT THERE THIS PAST YEAR. VERY PROUD TO BE OUT THERE TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW IT PIECE THEY ARE. FOR ME BEING A VETERAN IT DOES MY HEART GOOD TO SEE HOW OUR COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER. THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN RELAXATION IS FOUNDATIONAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE LOVE BEING A PART OF OUR MEMORIAL. MAYOR PRO TEM AND I WERE THERE FOR THAT AND WE LOVE THAT.

THE LITTLE EBENEZER CHURCH HAD THE CONFERENCE AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THEM ABOUT LIFE AND THEM ABOUT BEING VULNERABLE IN THAT SPACE TO EXPLAIN ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I WENT THROUGH AND HOW WE BOOK THE ROUGH SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN AND YOU CAN COME OVER THAT MOUNTAIN PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT NOTHING CAN HOLD YOU DOWN. IF YOU GET OVER CERTAIN THINGS IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU CAN PUT YOUR MIND ON WHERE YOU WANT TO BE AND MAKE THAT YOUR OBJECTIVE AND GOAL AND USES RESOURCES AROUND YOU YOU ARE UNSTOPPABLE. I WAS VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT. JUST LAST WEEK THE ASSISTANT CHIEF JONES AND I WERE ATTENDING THE DREAM TOGETHER. I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK AT THAT EVENT.

IT WAS AN EVENT FOR 60TH ANNIVERSARY OF DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING'S WE HAVE A DREAM SPEECH. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

HOW DOES NOT JUST A STOPLIGHT ANYMORE. WE ARE SOMEBODY AND WE ARE VALUABLE. WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER. IF THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE NOW THEY ARE GOING TO. WHAT'S WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH SCHOOLS GOING INTO SCHOOLS? I DID THE DARE PROGRAM WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL AND I REALLY LIKED IT. I THINK THAT SENT ME AN INTRODUCTORY FORGET THINGS. QUICKSET WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

THE SOMETHING THAT SHE COMES BACK FOR?ND I KEEP ASKING. >> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER POSITION. WHEN WE RAN LOW OF STAFFING WITH CORE PRIORITIES BECOMING YOUR PATROL OFFICERS THAT WAS ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAD. ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS INFUSION OF OFFICERS AND

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THERE A SITUATION THAT WAS OFF CAMPUS A FEW WEEKS AGO. THEY WERE A PART OF THAT MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE TAKING CARE OF THAT. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE HAVE AN EXTREME VALUE OF THAT POSITION.

IT WAS LAST MONTH AND THEIR OFFICERS FROM AROUND CENTRAL TEXAS.

IT'S THE WORK THAT THEY DO WHEN IT COMES TO DRUNK DRIVING. HE IS THE 46 OFFICER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THERE ARE A LOT OF LEADERS AND STATE AND I'M ONE OF THEM.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT. I'M PROUD OF HIM BECAUSE THAT SHOWS THE DILIGENCE AND DESIRE TO RAISE THE STANDARDS AND NEVER STOP LEARNING. HOW DO YOU PRODUCE THAT? THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TO BE THE EXAMPLE AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE ALSO HAVE TWO OFFICERS THAT RECEIVED COTTAGE DEGREES. THEY NEVER STOP LEARNING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME SO PROUD. THEY WERE KNOCKOFF NIKES THAT I BOUGHT WHEN I WAS A KID TRYING TO BE LIKE MICHAEL JORDAN. I TRIED. YOU SAY YOU REACH FOR THE MOON AND IF YOU FAILURE AMONGST THE STARS. IF YOU RAISE THE STANDARDS ERASE THE STANDARDS OF THOSE OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO SEE THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING IN THE QUALITY THAT YOU WANT TO EMULATE. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE OFFICER COULD HUTTON FOR RECEIVING HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE. HE IS A FEW COURSES AWAY FROM HAVING HIS MASTERS DEGREE AND WERE SO PROUD OF HIM. WE WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH. WE LOOK AT THEIR BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE. WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT WE DO. ANY QUESTIONS?

TOGETHER WE ARE ACTIVE. >> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

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ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2023-043 repealing Chapter 18, Article 18.02, Division 2, of the Code of Ordinances, After-School Recreation Program Standards of Care, in its entirety; adopting standards of care for the City's recreation programs for elementary-age children; and providing for: Findings of Fact, Enactment, Repealer, Severability, Effective Date, and Proper Notice & Meeting (Jeff White)]

IN ITS ENTIRETY ADOPTING STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE CITY'S RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY AGED CHILDREN AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT, ENACTMENT, REPEAL OR,

SEVERABILITY, EFFECTIVE DATE ANDPROPER NOTICE AND MEETING . >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL THERE WAS A CORRECTION THAT WAS POSTED. WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY REPEALING THE STANDARDS OF CARE.

JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNSEL ATTENTION. >> I'M JEFF WRIGHT THE

DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> ACCORDING TO TEXAS HOUSE.

IT ALLOWS CITIES TO OPT OUT OF STATE GUIDELINES AND ADOPT THEIR OWN STANDARDS.

THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING LIKE WE ARE DOING TONIGHT AND THE ORDINANCE SOME OF THE STANDARDS INCLUDE STAFFING RATIOS, STAFFING QUALIFICATIONS FACILITY HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS AND MONITORING ENFORCEMENT. THEREFORE WE HAVE NO LICENSED CHILDCARE. THEY APPROVED THE UPDATED STANDARDS SEPTEMBER 22.

WE DO ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS ITEM TONIGHT. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE ORDINANCE NUMBER OH ? 2023 ? 43. >> FOR NO OBJECTION TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:58 PM. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT PLEASE COME U . SEEING ON I WILL CLOSE THE OPEN

HEARING. >> I WILL APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO ? 2023 ? 043

REPEALING CHAPTER 18 ARTICLE 18 POINT 02 DIVISION TWO. >> .

>> I WILL SECOND AND AMEND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT ON REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER LIST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.S THAT COVERED UNDER

THE BACKGROUND CHECK? >> OF THE BACKGROUND CHECK DOES COVER THAT OBVIOUSLY.

SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS WRITTEN IN? TALK ABOUT LEADERS.

WE NOT WANT TO SPECIFY THAT? >> A LOT OF THE HIRES RIGHT NOW OUR STUDENTS AND HAD A HIGH

SCHOOL. >> IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT THAT SOMETHING WE CANDEFINITELY

DO . >> I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE EVEN IF IT'S JUST TO SEE IT. WITH EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

>> I WILL ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.> IT DOES SAY ON F. A NATIONWIDE CHECK OF DATA IS THE SEX OFFENDER REGISTRATION SENATE WILL BE CONDUCTED WITH THE RESULTS INDICATE THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE FOR REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS AND THEY WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR EMPLOYMENT. SO IT IS SEPARATELY COVERED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE

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MOTION? HEARING THEM IS CALLED THE VOTE.>>.

THE SECOND READING. >> A SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. DURING NON-PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

>> FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I'M ASSUMING ANGELA THAT WAS YOU THAT CREATED THE SLIDE ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS.WHOEVER DID THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP GET THE COMMUNITY OUT TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS. WE DO HAVE ONE THAT CAME IN AND ONE OF THEM WAS VACANT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT TURN YOUR WORD TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

QUICK SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. APPOINTING TONY AWARD TO THE ADVISORY BOARD.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT APPOINTMENT? YOUR NON-PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND FILL THEM. ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 10.1? X PROBE MAYOR IT'S PROBABLY A MONTH AND AND A HALF OR LONG AGO THAT WE HAD DELAYED OR DENIED APPOINTING LIAISONS. I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT TO LIAISONS TO HAVE NO DIVERSION AND INCLUSION. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER FILLING THOSE.

IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHANGE THE ASSIGNMENT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION. X THAT LEAVES P AND Z.

>> I WOULD BE OPEN TO CHANGING. I AM WITH THE FIRST ADVISORY BOARD RIGHT NOW. AND HE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT ON.

IF ANY WOULD LIKE TO DO PANSY I WILL STAND PARKS. COUNCILMEMBER WILL CUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT LIAISON I THINK THIS IS BEFORE YOU ARE ON COUNCILMEMBER THORTON. COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD REALLY SAID. I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM.

SO DON'T WANT YOU TO BE OVERLOOKED. >> I DID NOT HAVE THE TRAINING SO THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO KNOW. I AM OKAY WITH LIBRARY OR PARKS.

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>> I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO PNC. NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMIT TO PNC. QUICKSET COUNCILMEMBER WILL CUT YOUR CABLE GOING PARKS?

>>. AYES, SIR. Q?

>> I WOULD SAY LIBRARY'S QUARTERLY. I WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP LIBRARY

THEN. >> I'M HAPPY TO STAY ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR. QUICKSET LEAVES COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON WHICH ONE ARE YOU ON?

>> I'M ON THE UDC. >> THE MAN WAS THE LIAISON BUT I THINK TRADITIONALLY WE HAD THE LIAISON BEA MEMBER . CLICK SOME GOOD WITH EDC THANK YOU.ANDY HAS COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. IN PARKS IS COUNCILMEMBER WILCOX.

IS THERE A BOARD WE ARE MISSIN . >> TO THE STANDARD TRADITIONALLY HAS NOT HAD A LIAISON. SAME WITH THE ETHICS REVIEW.

THEY DON'T HAVE ONE BUT WE HAVE NEVER APPOINTED TO THOSE IN SAME WITH DBA.

>> NONE OF THOSE NEAT STANDARDS. ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS VERY RARE AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT NEEDS A LIAISON. EXITS ETHICS IS POTENTIALLY

BEEN REVIEWED WE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT. >> MAKE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD AND COMMISSION TO BE PREPPED MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON HPC MARRIED TIM GORDON. THE LIBRARY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

PANSY COUNCILMEMBER KOHLER. IN THE PARKS BOARD. NEXT I WILL SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? QUICK SINCE WE ARE NOMINATING OURSELVES AS LIAISONS CAN WE PLEASE SET A TIME TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING AS LIAISONS? I THINK THE CONVERSATION NEVER GOT RESOLVED IN A WORK SESSION SCOPE. IT'S WORTH IT FOR US AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING.

>> BULLET POINTS, FLYERS. >> CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE MOTION?

>> THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.>> CAN WE MAKE SURE WE GET THAT ON THE AGENDA?

>> THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> .

ZERO. ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT IN 10.1? HEARING THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO

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ZERO ? 2023 ? 058 CREATING A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE. >> HAVE A QUESTION CAN WE MOVE

OUT SOME OF THESE RESOLUTIONS TO DO FIRST? >> IF NO OBJECTIONS WILL MOVE 11.1 TO THE END. AND YOU KNOW OBJECTION TO LOOK AT ITEM 12.1 CONSIDERATION AND

[12.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-196 regarding outside agency funding to the Williamson County Crisis Center (Hope Alliance) (Anne LaMere)]

WILLIAMS AND CRISIS CENTER. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CHRISTINA BISHOP CITY CONTROLLER. TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW OUR FISCAL AND BUDGETARY POLICY ALLOWS FOR UP TO 1% OF GENERAL FUND REVENUES TO BE ALLOCATED TO NONPROFITS THAT SERVE THE CITY OF HOW TO. TYPICALLY AGENCIES GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS. OUR FISCAL AND BUDGET PROCESS SPECIFICALLY NAME THREE AGENCIES THAT DON'T NEED TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS IN OUR AUTOMATICALLY WORDED.

ONE OF THESE AGENCIES IS THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT.

THE CITY HAS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT AUTOMATICALLY RUNS THEM BASED ON A DOLLAR AMOUNT PER CAPITA. THE OTHER TWO AGENCIES HAVE NOTHING IN PLACE THAT DETERMINES A DOLLAR AMOUNT HISTORICALLY BEEN AWARDED $15,000 PER YEAR.

THESE SUBMITTED NEVER CUT AN APPLICATION CAN FUNDING AS A CITY GROWS.

WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT FOR $25,000 FOR THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY CRISIS CENTER.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.ASK ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2023 ? 196 QUICK SECOND.

>> DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? X WHEN WE DUG INTO THE DETAILS I COULD ONLY FIND THE RESOLUTION FOR THE HEALTH DISTRICT BUT NOT FOR THESE TWO AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ASKED TO BRING THESE BACK. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT WE WILL THE $25,000 WHICH IS WHAT WE APPROVED THIS YEAR. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT GOING FORWARD THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN THE PER CAPITA BASIS SIMILAR TO THE HEALTH DISTRICT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD INDICATED.

>> I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE NEXT ONE THAT THEY INDICATED PER CAPITA THAT THEY CONTINUE TO RAMP UP CRACKS IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY WANTED TO PER CAPITA GOING FORWARD WE JUST

NEED TO DO A RESOLUTION OR MODIFY THIS RESOLUTION? >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[12.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-197 regarding outside agency funding to the Williamson County Children's Advocacy Center (WCCAC) (Anne LaMere)]

I'M GOING TO SHARE A STORY ABOUT WHY I SUPPORT FUNDING THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER. ON SEPTEMBER 30 2018 MY 16-YEAR-OLD NEPHEW WALKED HOME FROM EMORY FARMS TOLD TOWN. AFTER HE WAS APPROACHED PHYSICALLY BY A GROWN MAN WHO OUTWEIGHED HIM BY AT LEAST 140 POUNDS. TO PHYSICALLY TAKE HIS PHONE AWAY FROM HIM. IT LEFT HIM WITH A HEAD INJURY AND A CONCUSSION.

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[12.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-191 regarding Rotation List for Transportation and Drainage professional services with K Friese & Associates, LLC (KFA), Freese & Nichols, Inc., TranSystems Corporation Consultants, WSB Engineers and Surveyors Inc., and Johnson, Mirmiran & Thompson (JMT) (Matt Rector)]

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN RAISED PREVIOUSLY WAS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT JUST USING THE SAME FIRMS OVER AND OVER HE SAYS YOU LOOK AT THE LISTS YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THESE FIRMS HAVE NEVER WORKED IN THE CITY OF HEAD TO. THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENT.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE SCORES CHECK OUT. THE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT WE EVALUATED THESE FIRMS ON, THE FIRST THING IS HER STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS.

IT'S THEIR AVAILABILITY TO WORK ON OUR PROJECTS. THE FOURTH ONE IS THE PROJECT APPROACH. AND SO I CAN TELL YOU I AM A PRETTY HARSH GRADER.

OF THE RANKINGS MY SCORES WERE PROBABLY LOWEST ON EVERY FROM ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE SAYING SOMETHING IN THERE.

WE WERE WILLING AND ABLE TO TAKE YOUR PROJECTS ON AND THAT WAS A BIG THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PROJECTS AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER.PROPOSED STAFFS WILL LOOK AT SEVERAL FACTORS. ARE THEY LOCAL. TO THE ACTUALLY OF PROXIMITY? IF YOUR ENTIRE STAFF IS LOCATED IN NEW YORK THE NUTS CAN AWAY AGAINST YOU WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOUR ENTIRE STAFF IS RIGHT HERE IN HUTTO OR ROUND ROCK.

WE WILL NOT TAKE THE POINTS THAT WE WILL DING YOU FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING IS IF WE LOOK AND NO THAT A LOT OF THE FIRMS DO BOTH WORK SO THEY DO PRIVATE AND PUBLIC.

THAT'S CONCERNING FOR ME IS IF THE FIRM COMES TO US AND SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO PRIVATE DESIGN WORK BUT THAT WE WANT TO USE THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE TO DO YOUR PUBLIC WORK, TO ME THAT'S A POTENTIAL ISSUE. IT WILL HAVE WHAT THEY CALL CHINESE WALLS WHERE IF THEY DO BOTH THE GUYS WHO ARE DOING THE PUBLIC STUFF DON'T CROSS THE PRIVATE SIDE.

THE GUYS THAT ARE DOING PRIVATE DON'T CROSS THE PUBLIC. I DID NOT DO PUBLIC WORK.

THERE WAS A PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND THEY DO THE WORK. WE DIDN'T CROSS.

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HOW THEY WERE GOING TO REACT WITH US AND HOW THEY WERE GOING TO RESPOND TO OUR DEMANDING SCHEDULES. IN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES WE SELECTED MORE FIRMS THAT IS ON THIS LIST. BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET ME THE PAPERWORK IN TIME TO BE READY FOR THIS MEETING I HAVE REMOVED THEM. IF THE WAY I SEE IT I CAN'T GET YOU TO RESPOND AND YOU WILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ME AT HOW WE RESPOND WHEN TO HAVE MY MONEY? IT COULD HAVE BEEN MORE FIRMS ON THE LIST BUT THEY COULDN'T RESPOND IN TIME TO REMOVE THEM. IT'S KIND OF HOW WE EVALUATE THESE AND SO THESE ARE THE FIVE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAG . WHISKEY AND JOHNSON MERRIMAN

AND THOMPSON. >> MY ONLY QUESTION IS HOW LONG IS THE ROTATION LIST IN EFFECT? I SEE WHERE THE AND IN SOCIAL CONTRACT IS FOR 24.

I HAVE TO DO ANOTHER RFQ OR WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? WHICH IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FOR THEM BECAUSE TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER I DON'T WANT TO DO SEVEN OF THESE EVERY YEAR.

I CAN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WHAT WE WERE DOING. THERE WILL BE SOME THAT IS ONE YEAR AND THEN SUMMER TWO YEARS. WE ARE STAGGERING THEM. I AM A PRETTY DEMANDING PERSON.

I HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF MYSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE. WE TALK THE CITY MANAGER THIS ONE-YEAR THING IS GOING TO BE IF THEY DON'T PERFORM DURING THAT ONE YEAR AND MAYBE WE DON'T INVITE THEM TO SUBMIT THE NEXT ROUND. THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO VISIT THEM. THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE ARE APPROACHING THAT ASPECT.

>> I LOVE THAT YOU CAN MEET CREATED A COMMITTEE OF STOCK TO CALIBRATE AND WORK THROUGH.

FIVE HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONES I LOVE THAT YOU WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.I LOVE SEEING THE DETAIL THAT THEY PUT IN HERE. INCLUDING THE CHALLENGES AND SOLUTIONS WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH CHALLENGES THAT SOME OF THE SELECTED COMPANIES WORKED THROUGH ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE. THEY ARE VERY DETAILED AND WHAT THEIR CHALLENGE WAS, THEIR SOLUTION. I SEE PICTURES OF HOW THEY OVERCAME THOSE CHALLENGES.

IT'S SO DETAILED THAT I CAN COMPLETELY TELL YOU WEREN'T OCD AND I LOVE IT.

>> I WILL TAKE THE CITY AS A COMPLIMENT. >> THERE IS A SPECIALIST THAT WE REQUESTED LIKE THE GEOTECH SPECIALIST. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS YOU WILL HAVE SOMEONE TO CONTACT TO IDENTIFY THIS PROBLEM AND CREATE A SOLUTION BEFORE WE HAVE IT SOMETHING WE HAD OVER THERE IN OLD TOWN. THIS IS GREAT WORK.

>> MERELY TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WASTE TIME AND TRYING TO DO RF WE TRY TO GO OUT FOR THAT WITH THE PIPELINE FULL AND WE HAVE

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THE GAME. IN QUEUE FOR THAT. >> WE ALSO HAVE STANDARD SO IF THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING WE ARE NOT LOCKED-IN SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE PART I LIKE THE MOST. WE SHARE MY CONCERNS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. A LOT OF THE WORK SEEM TO BE GOING TO ONE FIRM.

I DON'T HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT. UNLIKE A SYSTEM LIKE THIS WHERE YOU GET TO KEEP THEM. IN MY MIND IF THEY ARE TELLING YOU CAN DO SOMETHING AND THEY ARE DRAGGING. YOU CAN AFFORD TO HAVE DELAYS AND EXCUSES AND SO I THINK THIS IS A BIG STEP. NEXT TO THAT POINT ANY OTHER FIRMS THAT ALREADY WORKING WITH ME IF THEY CAN DO IT IN SIX MONTHS MXP HOW YOU CAN DO ITIN THREE .

>> MAYOR IF I MIGHT. THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADD FOR CLARITY AND THEN ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC. ROTATION LIST WORKS I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT REALLY QUICK WHICH IS NOW INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A LIST OF FOLKS WE HAVE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENTS ON STANDBY. FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD ARBITRARILY WE CHOOSE WHO WE GET THE WORK TO. IF IT'S IN THIS CATEGORY WE STARTED THE FIRST ON THE LIST AND THEY GET THE PROJECT. THAT'S THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT ROTATION LISTS ALLOW YOU TO DO.

THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS ONE OF A VERY QUIET PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY ON. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE HERCULEAN EFFORT THAT THEY PARTICIPATED IN DOING THIS.

IT'S WHAT THEY REALLY DID IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS TO US TONIGHT.

WHEN I ORIGINALLY CHARGED MATT I HAVE NOT HEARD HIM SIGH AT ME TOO TERRIBLY TOO MANY TIMES BUT HE SIGHED WHENEVER I SAID ANY ROTATION LISTS.IT'S THE SPECIFIC AREAS AND WE NEED TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE WE START OCTOBER 1 SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE NEXT THING TO SAY.

SQUIRRELS MATT, I WANTED TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY AND THOSE THAT HELPED.

I DON'T KNOW EVERYONE'S NAME BUT I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WERE DISSIPATED.

I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS. >> YOU KEEP SHOWING US THAT

YOU ARE REALLY ON THE TOP OF THIS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> WAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ALL ? 191 IS PRESENTED.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE CAN APPROVE 12 ? THREE THROUGH 12 ?

SEVEN IN ONE MOTION. >> YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THEN YOU CAN MOVE 12.4 TWO WHATEVER TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE CAN TAKE A MOTION THERE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO RESEND MY MOTION AND MOVE 12.3 TO 12.72 CONSENT.

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>> THIS IS $1 BILLION OF PROJECTS IN YOUR DISCONNECT GO THROUGH THIS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPANIES VERSUS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN

DIFFERENT THINGS QUICK SO I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IT

TO CONSENT. >> EDGE WILL JUST ASK THE QUESTION AS A CONSENT.

THAT IS FINE. >> I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> LET'S JUST GO ONE BY ONE.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R - 2023 ? 191 IS PRESENTED.>> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK AND SECONDED BY GORDON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING THEM PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[12.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-199 regarding Rotation List for Utility Engineering professional services with Garver, Cobb Fendley & Associates, DCS, Kimley-Horn Associates, and LJA Engineering (Matt Rector)]

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER R - 2023 ? 199 AS PRESENTED. HERE'S MY QUESTION ON THIS PARTICULAR GROUP WHEN IT COMES ENGINEERING THIS UTILITY PART OF IT.

WITH WASTEWATER, ARE THESE COMPANIES ON HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY INVOLVED OR NEW PROJECTS ALSO? GARVER HAS GOT THE LION SHARE OF THE PROJECTS AND I WOULD RATHER THEM JUST FOCUS ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN AND CRITICAL THINGS THEY ARE WORKING ON. IT'S THE BRIDGE OVER AT 132. WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE COMING THROUGH TIMELY AND WE DON'T HAVE A DELAY TO MEET THIS WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE. BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON I WOULD RATHER THAN FOCUS ON THOSE PARTICLES AND DCS WHO USED TO DO A LOT. I WOULD RATHER SEE THOSE GUYS AND WHATEVER NEW PROJECTS WE HAVE COMING. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN.

WE STILL HAVE LINE BY LINE MAXED OUT ENGINEERING FIRM THAT POTENTIALLY MAY GET THE NEXT

BIG PROJECT. >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. JUST IF I CAN PROVIDE ONE CLARIFICATION. IT'S THE GARVER TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING FOR THE CITY.

ONE IS TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE. ONE IS THE UTILITIES.

AT LEAST IN MY TENURE HERE THE TEAM HAS DELIVERED EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID THEY WILL DELIVER ON THE TIMELINE THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DELIVER IT.

IF YOU BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND THE TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE TEAM DID SUBMIT FOR TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE BUT THEY DID NOT MAKE OUR TEST FIVE.

UTILITIES TEAM THOUGH WHAT THE COMMUNITY REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW QUICKLY THESE GUYS ARE STAYING ON THINGS. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WORK FOR US IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE PERFORMED IN THE EYES OF THE COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE A STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS.

>> WILL FIND OUT LATER TONIGHT IF WE WERE BY NOW THESE CALLS ARE COMING TO US AND THEY ARE ON THE SIDE OF APPROVING AND ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. THE APPROVAL PROCESS COMES WITH THE VULGARITY KICKED OFF THESE PROJECTS AND THE CAPTION THE DESIGN.

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TURN THAT PROBABLY IS NOT SHOCKING. >> I JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE TEAM. YOU HAD RFQ'S. I UNDERSTAND CERTIFICATIONS AND TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. YOU ARE THE ONES AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT ARE DELIVERING THE PROJECTS WE DO AND WHO YOU WORK WITH. I WILL SUPPORT YOU GUYS IN THE AND LIKE I SAID ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A ONE YEAR DEAL WITH A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION POSSIBLE SO I'D SEE NO CONCERNS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ALSO ENJOY HAVING THIS IS A LIST SO WE DON'T HAVE A POLITICAL BACKBITING ON THE PARTICULAR FIRM WHICH IS RUN BY

THE ENGINEERING TEAM WHICH IS WHY I AM SO GLAD WE HAVE YOU AS A CITY ENGINEER.>> IS A

SWING HERE? I CAN KEEP TRACK OF IT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING THEN PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[12.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-200 regarding Rotation List for Surveying and Land Services professional services with Cobb Fendley & Associates, SAM, MWM DesignGroup, and Titan Valuations (Matt Rector)]

VALUATIONS. >> MAYOR AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 12.5 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION QUE MOTION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

AND ZERO. >> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.6.

[12.6. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-201 regarding Rotation List for Geotechnical Engineering professional services with Rock Engineering, Raba Kistner, Arias and Braun Intertec (Matt Rector)]

ROBERT KISTNER, AREA'S AND BRAUN INTERTEC. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

12.6 IS PRESENTED. >> I SECOND. >> DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS

ON THE MOTION? >> HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE BOW.

[12.7. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-202 regarding Rotation List for Architecture and Landscape Architecture professional services with MWM DesignGroup, Clark Condon, Sunland Group, and MHS Planning & Design (Matt Rector)]

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R - 2023 ? 202.

GUARDING ROTATION LISTS FOR ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH MW M DESIGN GROUP, CLARK CONDON DON , SUNLAND GROUP AND H M HS PLANNING AND DESIGNING.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 12.7 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> I DON'T REMEMBER US HIRING AN ARCHITECT OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT SERVICES SINCE I'VE BEEN APPEAR. WHAT DO THESE GUYS DO?

>> THIS WOULD BE A COMBINATION CURRENTLY MOST OF OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE IS RUN THROUGH VERDICT WAS DOING THE MASTER PLAN AND THEY ARE DOING THE DESIGN.

THIS WOULD BASICALLY BE FOR OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING.

SO THE THREE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN CIP ARE THE POLICE STATION, PUBLIC WORKS IN THE LIBRARY.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY SPACE PLANNING, PROGRAMMING AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS HELPING US GET THAT LAID OUT.

THE ARCHITECTURE SIDE WILL BE DOING THE PARK PRODUCTS. THE CAP WE HAVE THE CROSS CREEK TRAIL EXPANSION AND WE HAVE THE AMPHITHEATER UPGRADES. WE PICK A BALL COURT.

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POLICE THE CITY PLANNING IS A VERY UNIQUE PROCESS. IF THESE FOLKS ARE HERE CHANCES ARE WE WILL GO UP TO RFQ JUST FOR THAT. UNLESS SOMEONE ON HERE HAS A VERY DEEP BENCH UNDOING FACILITIES. YES, THAT'S LOTS OF PARKS

PROJECTS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> DID VERDICT PUT IN THEIR

SUBMISSION? >> THEY DID NOT SUBMIT I THINK BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL UNDER

THE ORIGINAL MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT. >> WE HAVE MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO

LEFT WITH THEM. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR WITH THEM WHAT THEIR CURRENT

AGREEMENT. >> SO THEY CAN COME BACK.>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[12.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-203 regarding Master Service Agreement for Archeological and Environmental professional services with Baer (Matt Rector)]

>> WE HAVE ITEM 12.8. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R - 2023 ? 203 REGARDING THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH BAYER. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT

APPLIED OR ACCEPTED. >> THERE WERE ACTUALLY OTHER FIRMS THAT HAD APPLIED BUT AS I INDICATED IF THEY COULD NOT RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER I REMOVED THEM FROM CONSIDERATION SO WE ARE DOWN TO JUST THE ONE FIRM THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY SEEMS LIKE WE COULD STILL GO OUT FOR A SEPARATE RFQ WE WANTED TO. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

>> BASED ON THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R - 2023 ? 203.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> IS NOT TRUE THAT ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE CAN STILL BRING IN SOMEBODY ELSE TO CIRCUMVENT THE LIST? OR ARE WE AGREEING ON THIS?

>> YES POTENTIALLY LIKE THE SAME MANAGER SAID THAT THERE'S A PROJECT WHERE WE THINK WE WOULD BENEFIT IN THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM GOING INTO ANY SPECIFIC RFQ TO GET A SPECIALIZED FIRM FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND YES WE CAN CIRCUMVENT THE ROTATION.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON 1220? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2023-058 creating a Street Maintenance Fee (Second Reading) (Matt Rector)]

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER R - 2023 ? 196.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THIS ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US AS OUR

OVERALL BUDGET AND TAX DISCUSSION.> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR GORDON AND SECOND BY THOMPSON. THIS BEING POSTPONED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 21, 2023.LEXI DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO GET US CLOSER THERE? ON THE 21ST WE HAVE 10 DAYS TO

DO THE BUDGET TWICE AND MAKE ANY CHANGES. >> IF WE MISSED THE DATE THAT

SOMEONE IS GOING TO PRESIDE. >> I'M GOING TO DO IT TOGETHER.

PERSONALLY I THINK IT BELONGS TOGETHER BECAUSE GOING TO BE ONE DISCUSSION.

>> AGREED. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE MOTION TO POSTPONE?

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AND ZERO. >> I WOULD ASK WHEN YOU SET THE AGENDA WILL YOU ALSO ADD THE TAX RATE. ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THIS ALSO. MAYBE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THEM TOGETHER.

>> THAT DISCUSSION IF WE NEED TO RECALL THE ITEM IS THAT WHEN WE WILL POSTPONE IT QUESTION MARK WHICH SHOULD'VE HAD THAT BEFORE WE VOTED. WE GENERALLY WITH THE ITEM AND

I WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM AGAIN. >> YOU JUST POSTPONED IT TO A DATE. THERE IS THE ORDER ON THE AGENDA THAT THE CITY MANAGER

CAN REVIEW.>> WHEN IT COMES HERE WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND IN WHATEVER ORDER.

>> MAYOR I REQUEST A RECESS . P.M. WE ARE BACK FROM RECESS. THE NEXT ITEM IS 13.1.

[13.1. Consideration and possible action on Fund Balance Reserve Discussions and Status (Anne LaMere)]

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD AND LEMAIRE.

IN DEALING WITH FUND BALANCE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR IF THERE SHOULD POSSIBLY BE SOME TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT TO OUR FISCAL POLICY WHICH STATES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 20% RESERVE. THAT RESERVE IS APPLICABLE FOR OUR GENERAL FUND IN OUR UTILITY FUND. THERE WAS FURTHER DISCUSSION IN MARCH AND THEN AT AT THE MARCH MEETING THERE WAS A MOTION TO DELAY ANY FURTHER ACTION UNTIL AUGUST.

COUNSEL WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON CURRENT YEAR RESERVE.

HERE WE ESTIMATE THAT I RESERVE WITH THE RESERVE FUND BALANCE WHICH WOULD BE 33% OF EXPENDITURES. BUT THE FY 24 BUDGET IT WILL BE 28%.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS IF WE HAD A $7000.

I'M SORRY $7 MILLION RESERVE WHAT WHAT THAT AMOUNT TERMS OF FUND BALANCE? FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IT WILL RUDIMENTS ELSE AND 28%. FOR FY 24 IT WOULD AMOUNT TO

23% RESERVE. >> OF THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD MEAN WE WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED 3%. THIS IS WHY THE COUNCIL TOOK THE ACTION NEEDED IN THE SPECIAL MEETING. THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT THERE.

THIS IS WHY WE HAD TO HAVE THA DISCUSSION . THAT'S WHY WE MOVED INTO A LATER MEETING TO TIE IN THE BUDGET. WE CAN EVEN BE AT THE FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK WITH THAT NUMBER.

ACCESS THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO PRESENT AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND WE WANT TO

DISCUSS SOME OF THEM YOURSELVES. >> I THINK THE REASON WE WENT DOWN TO SEVEN WAS WE WERE TRYING TO WILL THE GAPS CREATED WHEN WE ADDED POSITIONS.

WE REQUESTED THE POSITION ON THE BUDGET WE WERE TRYING TO FILL THE GAP ON STREET MAINTENANCE. IT TURNS OUT THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAD SUBSEQUENTLY FOUND

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SOME OF THE MONEY THAT COVER THE POSITIONS WE HAD. >> AND SO WE DON'T NEED TO

COVER THOSE. >> WHO COULD EASILY PULL QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BACK INTO THE

FUND BALANCE. >> MORE THAN HALF A MILLION I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE TOTAL IS. WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT 7 MILLION I WANT TO KNOW WHAT

THAT ACTUAL NUMBER IS. >> CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY MANAGED PROPOSED THERE $750,000 FOR STREET MAINTENANCE.IN DISCUSSIONS, JAMES I WILL LET YOU HANDLE THIS PART. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING FOR FOR THE STREET

MAINTENANCE WAS WHAT AMOUNT? >> $1.2 MILLION. >> THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 450,000 THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR. IF HE WERE TO FUND THAT WITH TAX DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE ONE SENT UNDER TAX RATE. ANYWHERE ESTIMATED $8.2 MILLION IN RESERVE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND SO YOU COULD PULL 450,000

OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE. >> WE ACTUALLY ONLY NEED TO PULL 350,000 BECAUSE WE HAVE 100,000 SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE STREET MAINTENANCE. THAT'S IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE

FOR TRASH. >> BUT THEN YOU ARE UNDERFUNDED FOR UTILITIES.

>> IS SUPPOSED GO TO STREET MAINTENANCE. BONDED OUT OF PROPERTY TAX.

>> THERE IS ONE OF THE THINGS. >> BECAUSE I WANT BACK AND READ THE PRESENTATION GIVEN FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.

1.2 MILLION WAS TO KEEP YOU AT STEADY STATE. NOT GET AHEAD OF ANYTHING WHERE WE ARE AT. THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU READ IN THE REPORT IT'S FOR PAVEMENT ONLY. JUST LIKE SEALANT AND DEALING WITH THE PAVEMENT.

AS YOU KNOW YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN STREETS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE REPAINTING OF THE SITE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT YOU NEED TO BE AT 1.5 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP SAYING $1.2 MILLION. IT NEEDS TO BE 1.5. 1.2 IS JUST FOR PAVEMENT.

THAT'S NOTHING ELSE. THIS WILL REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE FEE OR NUMBERS. THE NUMBER FOR THE WHOLE CITY IS $1.5 MILLION.

>> HE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ITEM SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

THIS ITEM IS FOR FUND BALANCE RESERVE DISCUSSIONS. AT PRESENT WE WANT WHAT WE DON'T WANT THAT SO WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON. WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THIS AS IT COMES AT A BALANCE AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT AT 20 OR 30%. WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS RAISING MORE MONEY AND NO NEVER TALKS ABOUT JUST SPENDING LESS.IF YOU WANT YOUR RESERVE BALANCE TO GO UP IT'S NOT ALWAYS TAKING MORE FROM PEOPLE. SOMETIMES IT SPENDING LAST SO WHATEVER PERCENT YOU PICK I JUST ASK YOU ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST NOT EXPAND PROGRAMS AS MUCH. FOCUS ON THE NEEDS. NOT ALWAYS THE ONES.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR AND WHEN WE ARE TALKING. NOT FOR TONIGHT BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT WE CAN'T RAISE IT ABOVE 20%. EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW FROM THE COUNCIL THAT WE SHOULD BE AT 30% IS RECOMMENDED. THERE'S NOWHERE TO GET THERE RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE GET LAND SALES AND STUFF PAYBACK LIKE THE 6 MILLION THAT WE DID TO THE DEA . THAT WE SEE CHANGES THAT.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THIS DISCUSSION IT BROUGHT THAT AMOUNT DOWN.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED BUT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL HAVE TO STAY AT 20% AND PERCENT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO STAY AT THIS POINT.WHEN IT GROWS UP NEXT YEAR WE CAN OVER TIME SET A STRONGER POLICY. NEXT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING TO SPEND OVER $11 MILLION.

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. >> RIGHT NOW THE END OF THIS CURRENT YEAR WE WOULD STILL BE

SITTING AT 33%. >> IT WOULD BE BASED ON 24 IS BUDGET WHICH IS 20%.

WITH A .2 MILLION SITTING IN THE BANK YOU ARE NOT ONLY AT 30% AND YOU CAN'T SPEND A DIME.

YOU ARE FAR BELOW THAT 30% WE WOULD GET A HIT ON THE RATING. I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD CHANGE FISCAL POLICY. WE CAN SAY WE WANT TO GET TO A HEALTHY 30 OVER THE YEAR BUT THAT'S NOT THE OFFICIAL POLICY BECAUSE IT HAS APPLICATIONS TO THAT QUICK SELECT THAT YOU PUT IN THE NOTES HERE WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO BRING BACK BECAUSE I ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST THIS MEASURE TO DO THIS TEAR. IT WAS MAYBE ONE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.

NOT SURE ON THAT BUT I DO KNOW THE TWO OF US DID VOTE AGAINST THIS TIERED OF 30% FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 45%. I KNOW THAT WAS EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAJORITY OF COUNSEL DID AND THEY WANT TO THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE HE ASKED YOU TO BRING BACK THESE NUMBERS. OF COURSE THE MAYOR MOVED TO THE END WITH THESE TALKS. IT'S JUST A BETTER CONVERSATION.

THE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS TO THE

SYSTEM OF INCREASING IT. >> ONCE WE GET THOSE DEALS AND THEY HAVE HAPPENED AFTER WE TOOK THAT VOTE DATE IS DIFFERENT NOW. I AM A DATA-DRIVEN PERSON.I DON'T JUST VOTE ON SOMETHING AND STICK IN THE MUD. I GET WHAT THE DATA SAYS THAT

IS THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY. >> TO DATE IS TELLING US THIS BUT NOTHING IS SAYING WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY. THERE'S NOTHING SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT.E CAN STILL DO A

BUDGET RESERVE AT 30% WHICH IS HAVE TO SPEND LESS. >> YOU CAN'T SPEND ENOUGH

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THAT CANNOT HAPPEN.T IS THE THINK YOU CAN CUT THAT MUCH OUT OF THE BUDGET TO GET TO 30%.

>> IT WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO SET THE FISCAL POLICY TO 30% BECAUSE WE WON'T CUT THAT MUCH.

>> COULD WE CUT ENOUGH TO HAVE A 30% FUND BALANCE? >> YES WE COULD.

>> WHAT'S THE 2% TO GET US TO 30? IS A $250,000?

OR WE CAN CUT SOMETHING. >> EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE CUT FROM THE BUDGET IS $0.30 CLOSER TO BEING AT THAT RESERVE LEVEL. EVERY DOLLAR WE ADD TO SOMEBODY'S TAXES IS 30% MORE WE ADD TO THAT WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT AND THAT GOES INTO THE RESERVE.

WHERE SPENDING $0.70 AND TELLING PEOPLE WE NEED TO DOLLAR BUT WE TOOK $0.30 AWAY.

THAT MAKES IT A HARDER CASE FOR ME.ASK WHAT IS THE RESERVE? IT'S CURRENTLY 20% OF WHAT?

>> EXPENDITURES. >> THE PLANNED EXPENDITURES. >> IT'S NOT PLAN TO TEXT

RECEIPTS. IT'S JUST EXPENDITURES. >> THAT IS A LITTLE BIT

DIFFERENT I THINK. >> AND WITH THESE GUYS OVER HERE.

I THINK MAYBE GET TO 30% ONCE WE GET TO $6 MILLION FROM THE EDC AND WE HAVE THAT EFFORT.

IF YOU HAVE A FISCAL POLICY SET AT 30 AND THAT 30% CANNOT BE TOUCHED YOU HAVE ONE HICCUP LIKE WE DID THIS PAST YEAR. HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF HITS THAT WE GOT TO THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST DID NOT PLAN ON. THIS COACH HOOKS INTO IT WE ARE ALREADY AT 20 AND WERE NOT MAKING THE CHANGES AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ACTION TODAY. WHAT'S YOUR AMAZING AS ALWAYS.

[13.2. Consideration and possible action on Utility Fund Revenue and Expenses (Anne LaMere)]

>> A NO ACTION ON THIS ONE. QUICKSET BRINGS US TO ITEM 13.2.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON UTILITY FUND REVENUE AND EXPENSES.

>> I DID SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION IN YOUR EMAIL. I HOPE THAT YOU RECEIVED IT AND HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT. YOUR CHART ON THIS PAGE NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

WHAT THIS CHART SAYS IS THAT IN OUR UTILITY FUND REVENUE MINUS EXPENSES EQUAL TO A NET INCOME OR LOSS. THE FISCAL YEAR IS ON LINE 3. THERE IS AN ESTIMATION FOR FY 23 AND THEN THROUGH FY 28 WHICH IS SHOWN HERE. THE FIRST QUESTION THAT I WAS ASKED TO ANSWER IS IF THERE IS NO CHANGE IN HEAD TO. NO INCREASE IN OUR NUMBER OF UTILITY BILLING CUSTOMERS. NO INCREASE IN OUR NET INCOME. IF EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME EXCEPT THAT WE IMPLEMENT OUR CAP. WHAT IS THE IMPACT GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF DEBT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THAT DEBT THROUGH UTILITY BILLING BILLS? IF WE ONLY FUND THE DEBT THROUGH UTILITY BILLS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE BILLS IN HEAD TO? WITH THE NET INCOME WE DO HAVE

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BY 28 WOULD BE $200 INCREASE OVER CURRENT YEAR UTILITY BILLS.

YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT $200. THAT IS YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE THAT IS ASSUMING NO CHANGE IN CUSTOMER . NO CHANGE IN YOUR OPERATIONAL

NET INCOMES. >> IT'S CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THE FINANCE OFFICER IS SAYING. IF NOT A SINGLE PERSON MOVES INTO HOTEL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND WE WERE TO STILL BUILD THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

ASSUMING WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE MOVING HERE THAT WOULD HAPPEN. I SAT OUT ON THE POST OF THE SKY IS FALLING IN IS $200.IT WAS EVEN PRESENTED BY YOU THAT THIS IS A WORST CASE AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAPPEN. IF IT DID WE WOULD PROBABLY DELAY OUT.YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS OUT THERE. IF COUNSEL DOES NOTHING THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IN REALITY. THE REALITY IS IT'S MORE LIKE IF THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOTHING IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT CHART THERE WHICH MEANS IN FIVE YEARS YOU WILL BE PAYING HUNDRED AND $34 MORE WHICH ASSUMES A NORMAL GROWTH THAT WE DO EXPECT. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ON THAT PART SO THAT WE CAN PLAN AS A COUNSEL LOOKING FOR FIVE YEARS. HOW DO WE MITIGATE THIS LINE THAT WE KNOW IS THE REALISTIC POSSIBILITY OF COUNSEL DOES NOTHING? WE HAVE A LARGER CUSTOMER BASE GROWTH THAT WE DO EXPECT THAT THIS TIME WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO OFFSET THAT. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS COMING THAT WE COULD DO TO OFFSET THIS BUT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR. IF WE DO PLAN FOR IT APPROPRIATELY DENNIS WON'T HAPPEN. INSTEAD OF HAVING DISCUSSION OF RAISING YOUR RATES INSTEAD WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE HERE.

WE DISCUSSED THE SOLUTION SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. PLEASE TYPE RECEIVED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU NEED TO COME OUT AND FIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT COUNSEL WANTS DUTY. ASK IF WE DID NOTHING WE WOULD BE $834.05 YEARS FROM NOW. WHAT ARE THOSE SCENARIOS AND WHAT ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO AND WE MAY HAVE TO ALLOCATE OTHER FUNDS AND SOURCES.

>> YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT. JUST TO STAY FORWARD WITH THE NUMBERS YOU ARE CORRECT.

IF WE ASSUME 8% INCREASE IN CITIZENS PER YEAR WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN AVERAGING OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE WOULD BE AT $134 INCREASE ON THE BELL AND FY 20 AND THEN THE LAST SCENARIO IS IF WE INCREASED OUR INCOME BY 8% AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS WE BID 120. AND THEN SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT COUNSEL COULD LOOK AT THAT WE REDUCE AT HUNDRED AND 20 THESE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE. AS A TEAM AND I'M SURE WE WOULD CREATE MOAT TO REDUCE THIS.

>> I KNOW WE ARE APPLYING FOR GRANTS UNTIL THE ACCOUNT GET THE GRANT WE CAN'T COUNT ON IT.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT DEVELOPERS WILL BUILD HOMES IN AREAS AND CONTRIBUTE IF THEY ARE IN A PIT OR WHATEVER TO THESE PIPELINES THAT THEY WOULD BUILD IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WOULD ALSO REDUCE THE PART THAT THE CITY WOULD OWE. I JUST WANT TO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT. IT IS IN REALITY BECAUSE THIS IS AN SAYING IF WE DO NOTHING

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CRAZY. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT SAYS.

>> IT'S NOT EVEN REALITY WORST CASE SCENARIO. I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE TO THROW THAT NUMBER OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TOHAPPEN .

>> IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE. >> I DON'T SEE IT. >> THIS IS CLEAR.

QUICKSTART DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COSTS. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE OF THE GROWTH COMING IN PAYING FOR IT.

JUST TO KEEP THE BILL DOWN TO HUNDRED AND $35. I THINK YOU ARE FORGETTING MOST PEOPLE ARE LIKE $100. YOU'RE TALKING MORE THAN A DOUBLING OF THE BILL UNTIL A

LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN. >> YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH AND D POWER TIES A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS BECAUSE THE VAST BULK OF THIS IS GOING FROM THE $2 MILLION PLANT TO THE $6 MILLION PLANT. WE WANT TO DO THREE OR FOUR THAT SAID WE MADE THAT DECISIO . WE MADE THAT A YEAR AGO AND KICKED IT OFF. YOU CAN SAY IT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH HUNDRED AND $35 PER

MONTH INCREASE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO GROW THIS 8% FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. WE ARE AT A STAGE III WITH DROPPING.

WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL WATER WITH ANY ADDITIONAL WASTEWATER. CAN WE DO THIS AND NOT RUN OUT

OF WASTEWATER CAPACITY? >> YES WE CAN BUT THERE IS A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THE CALCULATION LIKE THAT BOX IT'S ONE COMMERCIAL USER AND THAT'S ONE ACCOUNT THAT USES 1.5 MGD PER DAY. THEN NO YOU CAN'T. THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THOSE. QUICKSET ARGUMENT ACTUALLY WORKS THE OTHER WAY TOO.

IF YOU GET ONE BIG COMMERCIAL USER YOU CAN MANAGE IN THIS TWO-YEAR WINDOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT IS VERY DIFFERENT. THE POINT OF THIS NARRATIVE IS TO RAISE AWARENESS. WE HAVE TO BE FOR THINKING AND PAYING ATTENTION.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING POPPING OFF PROJECT SO TO SPEAK BEFORE THEY REALLY NEED TO GO.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT. WHENEVER I SAID THAT I COULD SEE THE CLIFF COMING WHATEVER I WAS DOING WITH THE BUDGETARY NUMBERS THIS IS THE CLIFF I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE PLANS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY PRESENTED. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE

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WE NEED TO START BEING ABLE TO REASSESS AND DECIDE WHICH PROJECTS WE SLAYED FOR 25 THAT CONNOTE DELAYED TILL 26. WHICH PROJECTS THAT WE PUT IN 26 THE CONNOTE DELAYED TO 27.

OR? THAT'S THREE PRIORITIZATION. THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.

THESE COPING. WHAT THAT IS IS I WERE TO CEASE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT CASSETTES WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP. IT'S AN EXPANSION FROM 2 TO 6 WHICH IS SEVEN IN TOTAL WHEN YOU ADD IN THE CENTRAL. YOU CAN DE-SCOPE THAT FOR 2 TO 4 AND WE WILL GO FROM 4 TO 6. THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT WAY AND THAT'S

THE POINT OF THE CONVERSATION. >> WHAT WE ARE DOING IN FISCAL YEAR 24 OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE CITY ENGINEER, CIP AND PLANS THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GO. EVERYTHING ELSE AND 24 GOT MOVED TO 25. WHENEVER WE COME TOGETHER AS A BODY TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE TIMING OF THOSE PROJECTS IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND HOW WE PAY FOR THEM.

QUICKSET PITCHES THE FUNDING UPON THEM AS WELL. >> ABSOLUTELY DOES.

LET ME PUT ON STICKY VALISE FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ARE STILL HERE I HAVE TO TELL THE HORROR STORY AND THIS IS A TRUEHORROR STORY . IN 2006 I DID THE FIRST WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPANSION. WE WENT TO ONE HALF-MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST ME IN 2006? WE'RE GOING FROM 2 TO 6 AND 2023 AND THAT'S HUNDRED AND $80 MILLION.

IT IS NOT EVEN ON A MULTIPLE OF TWO OR THREE. IT'S MULTIPLES OF TENS, 20S AND 30S OF HOW FAST THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE ESCALATING.

ANYTHING SCHEDULED FROM 25 ON THAT IS IN A CONTINUATION OF A 24 PROJECT THAT'S UP FOR

DISCUSSION. >> THE LAST ONE WE HAVE IS FROM HERE STRAIGHT UP.

HOSTAGE PLATEAU AT SOME POINT. >> IT'S ACTUALLY NOT. HERE'S THE THING ABOUT CCN'S.

IT MAY APPEAR THAT IT'S BUILT OUT BUT CITIES DON'T STOP BUILDING JUST BECAUSE THE LAND IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. CITIES THEN SHIFT AND START BUILDING VERTICALLY.

THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS. IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO SEE GRAPHS TO CONTINUE ON.

IF YOU HAVE AN UPPER LIMIT OF WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO OR FOUR.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. JUST BARELY PAYS ATTENTION PROBABLY BUT I THINK THE UPPER

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LIKE I SAID. YOU GET ONE SAMSUNG AND THAT NUMBER IS NOW 34 MILLION

GALLONS PER DAY. >> 17 MILLION GALLONS AND WE POSITION OURSELVES FOR 20 YEARS BUT THE PROBLEM IS KNOWN HERE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO WARD THE PATH TO GET THERE BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE DON'T INCENTIVIZE THEM.

>> TWO YEARS AGO IS HAVING ARGUMENT SINGLY ARE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF WATER AND BEING TOLD BY THE COUNCIL MISINFORMATION. THEN WE WOKE UP ONE DAY AND SAID TC CUES GIVEN US A NOTICE.

QUICKSET POSTED SOMETHING A MONTH AGO THAT SAID WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION AND IT WILL GO UP. IT'S MISLEADING AND FENCED MISCHARACTERIZATION.

NOW I TELL PEOPLE CAN GROW THE CITY IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO IT WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING. IT'S WHAT I THINK IS INCREDIBLE RESPONSIBLE.

IT'S ROSIE DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY. WE COME UP WITH A PLAN. TO ME THIS IS THE SKY IS FALLING. THIS IS HUNDRED AND 20 PER MONTH ON TOP OF THE TAX

INCREASES WE WILL NEED FOR THE $80 MILLION BRIDGE.>> SO POLITICS ASIDE.

WHEN PRESENTING TO COUNSEL ARE THE FACTS BASED OFF OF THE PLANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.THOSE PLANS CAN BE CHANGED AND I EXPECT THEM TO BE CHANGED BUT I'M REPORTING TO YOU WHAT THE PLANS AND THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD RESULT IF WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M REPORTING. THE POINT IS SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT BALANCING THE THINGS, TIMING THE PROJECTS. TO BE TO SCOPE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. WE CAN WAIT FOR DEVELOPMENT TO COME AND BUILD THAT ONE.

NYTHING THAT IS NOT IN FISCAL YEAR 24 IS FAIR GAME FOR THAT TOPIC X TRYING TO BE NICE ABOUT THIS. A YEAR AGO I MADE THE SAME ARGUMENT OVER ENGINEERING.

I'M BLOWN OFF AND EVERYBODY SAYS NO YOU'RE CRAZY. HERE WE ARE YEAR LATER AND MAYBE WE CAN DE-SCOPE AND PUT SOME THINGS DOWN BUT WE ARE ALREADY OUTSPENDING MILLIONS OF

DOLLARS DOING THESE PROJECTS. >> THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THE LOOP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAMERE LOOP WE WERE RUNNING LIKE WHAT IT WAS AN 8 INCH LINE.

MEANWHILE JOHN IS RUNNING A 15 INCH LINE GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY.

WHY ARE WE RUNNING WATER PARALLEL TO ANOTHER WATER COMPANY AND THERE'S NO WAY TO TAP INTO. THERE IS AN $8 MILLION DEAL SOMEWHERE OTHER ENGINEERING THAT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN DE-SCOPE THAT AND THAT'S FINE BUT WE SPEND DOLLARS WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET BACK. WE SHOULD ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THEN.

STAFF SHOULD OF TOLD US THEN. >> TWO YEARS AGO WE LOWERED THE WATER RATE BECAUSE STAFF CAME UP ANDSAID THERE IS SO MUCH MONEY COMING AND WHAT ABOUT THE CAB PROJECT ? IT'S GOING TO BE FINE AND COVERED. WE DROPPED THE WATERING WE

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THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE APPROVED OPEN TO PROJECTS TO GO FORWARD AND NOW WE LOOK AT SCALING BACK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FREAK OUT WHEN THE WATER BILL GOES FROM $100-$250 AND THREE OR FOUR YEARS. YOU GUYS CALL ME ANY NAME YOU WANT BUT I'M TELLING YOU PEOPLE ARE APPEAR FREAKING OUT OVER FIVE DOLLARS. NOW THERE'S NO PANIC ABOUT

HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH WHO SAYS NO IS PANICKING. >> WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. WE JUST STICK TO THE FACTS AND WE COME BACK LATER.

IN SIX OF MONTHS FROM NOW WE WILL STILL TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

>> AS A SINGLE PROJECT IT'S A BIG NUMBER. IF MEMORY SERVES I AM DOING THIS FROM MEMORY. OF THE BILLION DOLLARS WE KEEP SAYING ABOUT 800 OR 750 MILLION OF THAT ARE WATER PROJECTS. CURRENTLY WE CAN SAY $500 MILLION AND THERE IS SOME PATH THAT WE DON'T NEED THAT AND THEN I WOULD SAY WHY WE NEED I .

>> IT'S NOT OVER ENGINEERING. YOU STILL NEED THE ENGINEERING WORK DONE.

THE ONLY DEBATE IS WHEN DO YOU DO IT. YOU HAVE TWO DEBATES.

IF YOU DO IT NOW IT'S GOING TO CAUSE X AMOUNT OF MONEY. HE DELAYED THREE YEARS YES YOU MAY NOT HAVE NOW BUT YOU'VE NOW DOUBLED THE COST BECAUSE INFLATION IS STILL IN DOUBLE DIGITS FOR CONSTRUCTION. TO SAY IT'S OVERENGINEERED IS A FALSE STATEMENT.

>> YOU DON'T NEED THE WATER LINE. DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN ORDER

TO SIGN? >> FOR $8 MILLION THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO TAKE WATER FROM THE

NORTH SIDE OF LUMBER LOOP TO THE SOUTH. >> WE ARE USING IT TO BALANCE A PRESSURE PLANE. THERE IS A WHOLE OTHER SYSTEM OF ENGINEERING WORK THEY ARE

NEGATING BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> IN MY DAY JOB I MEET WITH JENNA PRETTY REGULARLYAND I'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS . THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER WAY OF DOING IT BUT WE REFUSED. WE WERE PLANNING OUTLINE NEVER EVEN TALK TO HIM. YOU CAN'T TELL ME IT'S JENNA YOU CAN'T WORK WITH THEM.

YOU CAN'T WORK WITH THEM IF YOU DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THEM.

WE WERE RUNNING A LINE SOUTH. THEY ARE RUNNING NOT TALKING TO THEM.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CCN WHERE WE ARE WORKING TO BRING WATER OUT OF OUR AREA INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S CCN AND WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IS CITY BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING TO THE CITY AROUND. WE ARE TRYING TO GO OUT ALONE AND WE WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY. YOUR WRITING STUFF NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE TODAY BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE. IT'S THE LAST AFFORDABLE PLACE WHEN THEY PICK UP AND MOVE THE PEOPLE BUYING THEIR HOUSE WILL BE PAYING THOSE BILLS.THAT'S OKAY BE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. THAT'S PEOPLE THAT LIVES HERE IN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE AFFORDABILITY IS GONE. YOU GUYS CAN CALL ME CRAZY OR TIGHT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE ANYTHING BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT TO WHERE SOMEONE IS ENOUGH TO WORK TWO JOBS. HALF OF THE KIT SECULARIZE THE AFTER LUNCH IS PAID FOR. THEIR PARENTS CAN AFFORD LUNCHES.

>> HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE? IT'S LIKE 80,000.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU'RE CRAZY BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO SEE THE SPECTRUM AND I THINK IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US AT ONE END. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER AND AND OBVIOUSLY MAYBE REALITY IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THAT THE SKY

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MAYBE IT'S IN THAT SPOT TO BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT SPOT. I BELIEVE WHAT AND HAS PRESENTED TO US AS A WORST-CASE SCENARIO. IF WE CONTINUE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WE DON'T GROW OUR INCOME INTO THE CITY I GUESS REALITY IS WITH THESE THINGS RIGHT HERE ONE THROUGH 6+ SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WILL THEN BRING IT FROM ONE EXTREME CLOSER TO THE CENTER. IT MAY STILL KEEP IT AT THE EXTREME BUT IT MAY PUSH IT TO THE OTHER SIDE TWO. I STOOD IN FRONT OF US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND TOLD US ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CITY WILL BE SEEKING OUT THAT EVEN THE FEDS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EVEN THE FEDS REACHED OUT AND SAID PLEASE APPLY TO THIS.

OBVIOUSLY NO MONEY IS GUARANTEED MONEY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BANK ON THE BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO ME. IT'S GREAT AND IT WILL GO TO OUR WASTEWATER EXPANSION TREATMENT PLAN. IT'S EXCITING AND WILL TIP IT AWAY FROM THE EXTREME. IT'S ONE BIG MOVE. IF WE CAN GET THAT GRANT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE AN EMPTY ANYMORE. THERE ARE MANY WHAT IF SCENARIOS BUT WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US AS INCH WORST-CASE SCENARIO.

THE BEST CASE SCENARIOS WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING AND WE WILL STOP PEOPLE FROM MOVING HERE.

>> I GUESS THAT IS AN OPTION. >> WHAT HAPPENED TO FLICKR AT 6%? WE DO 8% THIS YEAR AND LET'S SAY THEY HIT A RECESSION. THIS NUMBER START KICKING UP

BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE MENTAL ONE AT EIGHT. >> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING YOU IS IF WE ISSUE THE DEBT TO BUILD THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SLATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 AND 26. 27 AND 28. IF WE PUT IT AS A RECESSION WE DON'T KICK OFF PROJECTS 25, 26 AND 20. WE DON'T.

>> IT'S NOT THAT EASY BECAUSE THE RECESSION IS GONNA BE 20 HOMES OVER HERE AND 50 OVER HERE. THE WATER PRESSURE SO LOW THAT THE ICE PRESSURE FREEZES UP.

>> I WILL HAVE THEM COME CHECK THE WATER PRESSURE. >> YOU HAVE A WATER SOFTENER?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART HERE AND I DO EXPECT WERE GOING TO HAVE 8% GROWTH NEXT YEAR.

I DO BELIEVE WE WILL HIT AT 14,000 UTILITY BILLS. ISSUE $311 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL DEBT AND TO PAY INTEREST ON THAT DEBT OF 311 MILLION THAT AMOUNTS TO $8.33 PER MONTH AS

AN INCREASE ON UTILITY BILLS. >> WERE NOT ACTUALLY SHOWING THE 330 MILLION.

>> WE ARE. >> THAT'S LESS THAN $50 MILLION FOR THE GRANT.

YOU HAVE OTHER LOSSES. >> 30 MILLION FOR THE GRANT IS INCLUDED IN THERE.

$8.33 IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE UTILITY BILLS BY PER MONTH.

THEN WHEN YOU GET TO FY 25 THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL $126 MILLION IN DEBT.

THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS TO REALLY HURT. IT'S IN THE $200 MILLION IN

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REPRIORITIZE. >> THAT IS CONTINGENT ON GETTING THROUGH TONIGHT.

TONIGHT WE ARE NOT GOING TO SET THAT WERE BETWEEN NOW AND THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. PERSONALLY WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO GET TO.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION OF LIKE TO MOVE ON SITE AND WITH NO ACTION TAKEN.

>> TO DEAL WITH THIS ITEM IS THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE RATE. HER AND I GUESS WERE GOING TO

DO EVERY RATE STUDY POTENTIALLY COMING UP. >> I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE HAVE A RATE THAT HE PLANNED OR NOT. I KNOW WE HAVE THE IMPACT FEE STUDY.

>> THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE RATE PAID. HERE WE GO BACK TO LOW MAINTENANCE. IT'S LIKE HOW WE WILL FIND IT THROUGH TEXTING DOLLARS OR UTILITY BILLING.THIS IS THE PRESENTATION IS UTILITY BILL OR LIKE A FEE OF THE FIVE DOLLARS OR $10. THEY PAY OUT OF POCKET VIA TAX DOLLARS.

THE TAXPAYERS WILL PAY ON THE DEBT TO DO SOME PROJECTS OR MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD BALANCE OF THE DEBT SERVICE AND FEES. BUT THE COMBINATION OF THAT SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS IT BEING ON THE USER SIDE IF THEY PAY FOR 100% OF THIS STUFF.

>> WE THOUGHT IT WAS CAN BE CLOSE TO $50. >> IT WAS $50 IN YEAR THREE.

THAT'S THE NUMBER. >> HOW DO WE INCREASE REVENUES NOW AND WOULD PEOPLE BE MORE OKAY WITH PAYING FIVE DOLLARS MORE PER MONTH IN THEIR BILLS TODAY UNLESS LEADER? HOW DO YOU SPREAD IT OUT? IF WE KEEP SAYING YES THESE NUMBERS ARE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> YOUR TALKING PARKS THE SITE UTILITIES. >> WHETHER IT BE WATER WITH A SET OF 4 MILLION GALLON VERSUS 6 MILLION GALLON MARKETING LIKE THE COST OF THE SIX.

IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD IT NOW THAN WHEN WE BILL TELLING MILLION DOLLARS PER DAY? IF IT'S CHEAPER THE POINT BEING THAT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO PAY FORIT .

>> YOUR CHANGING THAT NARRATIVE STORY ONCE AGAIN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

WITH THE RATE YOU WERE TOLD WHEN WE DID THAT. WE IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE SIX TO GET TO THAT NEXT NUMBER AND IT WOULD COST 50% MORE TO DO THAT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SAVING THE RATES IF WE DONE YOUR PLAN IT WOULDN'T BE EIGHT AND 33 WOULD PROBABLY BE A 33.

>> WERE TOLD TO STOP? THE COMPANY WHO TOLD US THAT WAS THE COMPANY IS GETTING PAID TO. THEY ARE INHERENTLY GOING TO TELL YOU.

YOU THINK I'M POSTING THE SKY IS FALLING SCENARIO WITH RATES. THAT'S WHEN I FELT LIKE THE ENGINEER TOLD US AT THE TIME IT WAS A SKY IS FALLING. IF YOU GUYS SOME BUILD $6 MILLION YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND SO WE SAID OKAY DO IT. THEY BENEFITED OFF OF THAT.

CARVER WAS UP HERE. MOST OF THE MONEY IS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WHICH THEY

ARE NOT BUILDING. >> CARVER GETS BILLED 10%. >> THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO.

THE REASON THIS HAS ACTION IS OUR CONVERSATION IS HERE. >> AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TO DIRECT STAFF TO SAY HEY, DO SOMETHING. THERE TRAVESTY WHAT WE TELL

THEM TO DO. >> I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE. THE ONE THAT SHE HAS SUGGESTIONS ON IS WHAT WE SENT TO FOCUS ON. NEXT WE ALREADY DO AN IMPACT

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WHEN THAT COMES UP ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY DEVELOPER THEY WANT IT TO CONTRIBUTE TO HIS PAIN. THE WHOLESALE EXCESS WATER WILL NOT HAPPEN FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS WATER. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAD TO DO SOME LONG-TERM AGREEMENTS. HOPEFULLY ONE OF THEM WE ALREADY HAD AND WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON. NEXT WE HAVE THIS EXTRA WATER LET'S NOT TRY TO SELL IT FOR TWO YEAR AGREEMENT IF WE KNOW THE PERCENT RATE SO WE RECUPERATE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND SAVE IT. THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE LOOKED AT.

IT'S ON A DECISION FOR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER BECAUSE IT'S TWO YEARS

BEFORE WE POTENTIALLY HAVE THAT PART. >> THE CREATIVE FINANCING SIDE

ALREADY SAYS WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT IN OCTOBER. >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION TO TAKE TONIGHT. THE OTHER ONE IS DO WE HAVE TO ADD TO THE BUDGET $8.33 FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.THAT PROBABLY HAS TO BE DECIDED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> NO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO TAKE THAT DECISION AT THE POINT THAT YOU ISSUE YOUR BONDS.

>> SOMEONE TO ANTICIPATE DOING THAT THIS YEAR? >> I BELIEVE IT'S IN NOVEMBER?

>> IT SHOULD BE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME. >> WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS AND TRY TO ACCELERATE ON TRYING TO GET THIS STUFF BUT WE WON'T HAVE THE GRANT SOLUTION BEFORE

THAT SO WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THAT $8.33 THIS NOVEMBER. >> IT'S STILL NOTHING TO TAKE

ACTION ON TONIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING ASK WHAT ACTION WE TAKE TONIGHT?

>> AND THINKING I DON'T SEE US IMPACTING IMPACT FEES. >> WHAT WE DO TO GET PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THE IMPACT FEES? WE GIVE THEMSELVES TAX DOLLARS AND PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS TO OFFSET THAT. I THINK IMPACT FEES IS BY GIVING OUT PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES. IF YOU GO TO 12 OR 13 WE ARE TALKING TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. NEGOTIATION FOR DEVELOPER AND PAID INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE ALREADY MAKING HIM PAY FOR EVERYTHING THEY CAN. WE ARE SPENDING THIS BUDGET AND IT'S NOT GOING TO ANYTHING WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO. THE TELL PEOPLE THE NEXT DEAL THAT COMES IN IS TO MAN DOLLARS YOU'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

WHAT WITH A YEARLY DEBT SERVICE BE ON 300 MILLION? IT'S GOTTA BE 10, 15 OR $20

MILLION PER YEAR. >> I BELIEVE IT'S 11 MILLION FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.

>> HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AS A COUNSEL. >> THE LAST THING IS TO HOST THE ELECTION. IF YOU TOLD ME IN TWO YEARS TAYLOR WAS GOING TO HAVE AN

EXCESS SUPPLY OF WATER ALSO. >> TRUE. >> IF WE HAVE ACCESS AND THEY

HAVE ACCESS WE WON'T HAVE ACCESS IN TWO YEARS. >> IT WON'T BE UNTIL THE CORE

COMES ONLINE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> I PERSONALLY THINK WOULD HAVE TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND START COLLECTING A HIGHER RATE.

EVERY MONTH WE ARE NOT DOING THIS. IT'S JUST ONE MOMENT THAT WE

ARE GETTING CLOSER TO THAT INCREASE. >> THE GOAL OF PUTTING THIS

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EVENING. >> MISSION ACCOMPLISHED GREAT JOB.

>> WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST STRATEGY IS.

>> STARTS AN INCREASE ON THE VALVE RATHER THAN LATER. >> WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL NOVEMBER. WHAT IS NOT DUE TO HER PEOPLE WOULD RATHER PAY STARTING TODAY HAVE TO BE $50 MORE PER MONTH OR WOULD YOU RATHER PAY FIVE OR 10 MORE DOLLARS MORE PER MONTH FOR HER. AND THEN IT AMPS UP. WHAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS THAT IF YOU ARE SERIOUS AND I THOUGHT IT WAS 58 AND EVEN TELL PEOPLE WE HUNDRED AND $26 PER

MONTH. THEY ARE LIKE HIT ME NOW. >> I THINK YOU WANT MORE THAN THAT. I HAD A COPY OF IT SOMEWHERE BUT I THINK YOU WILL MORE ON

THAT POST. >> AND TRY TO THINK OF THIS BECAUSE I SEE THISIS KIND OF THE SAME THING . THE LANDSCAPE OF HUTTO IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS CHART STARTING TO CHARGE PEOPLE NOW FOR FUTURE USES. BUT AS HUTTO GROWS INTO THE USAGE OF THIS I THINK THAT IT'S MORE WISE TO NOT COLLECT ON PEOPLE NOW AND INSTEAD OF THE PROJECTS GET DONE TO USE IT THROUGH THE TAX REVENUE STREAM. WE CAN USE ON BOTH LIKE UTILITY FEE INCREASE AND TAX BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN 10 YEARS.

STATES 30 YEARS FOR DEBT SERVICE. OF THE 300.

YOU WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT SITUATION. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE NOW IN YEAR 10, 15 OR 25 THE LANDSCAPE IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT AND THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT PLAYERS PAYING INTO IT VIA THE TAX AND DEBT SERVICE VERSUS THE MONTHLY

RATE. >> MAYBE IT'S HARD FOR ME. I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING.

I FEEL LIKE WHAT'S THE EASIEST PATH OR THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

>> VERY SELDOMLY OUR UTILITY PROJECTS PAID FOR OUT OF INS FROM THE TAX RATE ON PROPERTY TAX RATE. I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T BE DONE BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE UTILITY FUND AND THAT USUALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN.

USUALLY IT'S PAID FOR BY THE RATEPAYERS. >> THE PROPRIETARY FUND IS DEFINED AS A FOR-PROFIT KIND OF OPERATION WHERE IT'S THE USER FEES THAT SUPPORT THAT FUND.

IT SUPPORTS THE EXPENDITURES AND THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FUND.

>> IF YOU THINK OF IT THIS WAY OF YOUR HAVING TO BUILD MORE STUFF BECAUSE WATER IS BEING USED IF I'M CHOOSING TO BE A WATER HUG AND USE A LOT OF WATER WHY SHOULD YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIGGER HOUSE PAY MORE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO USE AS MUCH WATER AS I WANT.

WE SET THE RATE FOR THE WATER AND IF I CHOOSE TO WATER MY GRASS WHEN WE ARE NOT IN STAGE III RESTRICTIONS BUT I CHOOSE THE WATER EVERY SINGLE THING. IF I CHOOSE TO ZERO SKATE MY

YARD AND NOT WATER THAN I DOUBT PAY THAT FEE.UTILITY THAT'S WHY IT'S DONE THAT WAY.>>

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I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T GET STARTED ON THAT NOUN TO THE MAYOR'S POINT WE WILL BE ISSUING THE DEBT IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S NOT UP FOR DEBATE. WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT.

OR THE ARPA FUND AGREEMENT WE HAVE ALREADY. WE ARE NOT STOPPING THIS PROJECT SO GETTING AHEAD OF THE RATE FEE RIGHT NOW SHE SAYING WE NEED TO BE AT $8.33.

I WOULD SAY THEY NEED TO COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.

IT WILL BE IN MARCH. >> I STAND CORRECTED. YOUR POSTED SAFETY PER MONTH IN TWO YEARS AND IF YOU WAIT TILL THEN I GET IT AT ONCE OR WOULD YOU RATHER PAY FIVE TO $10 PER MONTH NOW AND THEN IN TWO YEARS ONLY SEE ANOTHER FIVE OR 10 INCREASE.

BEFORE THAT IT WAS ABOUT THIS PLANT. I WASN'T HERE WHEN THIS WAS DONE. WE ARE GOING FROM A 2.0 MILLION PLANT TO 6.0.

SET DONE? HAS THAT DECISION BEEN MADE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT

PART AGAIN? >> THAT'S DONE. CAN THAT BE CHANGED?

>> KNOW IT CANNOT. >> CAN WE NOT FOCUS ON WHAT WAS DONE I MOVED TO WHAT WE CAN

DO TO IMPROVE. >> THE WRONG EXAMPLE I GUESS IS OUR JOB IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO THINGS. STAFF COMES UP IN EVERY DEPARTMENT WANTS EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN GET. WE START TELLING PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GOING TO BE A ABLE TO AFFORD A LIVING. WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST THAT PLANS FOR PEOPLE THAT OWN HOMES IN THE MARKET. WE WILL HAVE WATER BILLS WITH THREE TO $500 RANGE. I'M JUST THINKING I DON'T SEE THAT BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL.

I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE BEING EXCITED WHEN MY BILL NOW IS 200.

I HEARD THE WATER NOW. >> DON'T AGREE. I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN JUST NOT KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND FOCUS ON HOW YOU FIX IT NOW BECAUSE POSTING INFORMATION LIKE THAT IS KIND OF FEAR MONGERING. IT'S DONE AND IT'S OVER.WE SHOULD MOVE FIVE TO $10 MORE. I'M COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH MOVING TO A HIGHER FEED NOW.

>> INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE WATER BILL BY FIVE OR $10 WOULD PREFER THAT YOU ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH THE CHANGE TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT WE BILL IS SOMETHING LIKE $5.08 PER THOUSAND GALLONS.

THEN IT'S ALSO PER WATER METER SIZE. THE SCHEDULE OF HOW WE BILL IS A PRETTY LARGE AND DETAILED SCHEDULE. WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS SOME CALCULATION ON HOW WE WOULD CHANGE THE AMOUNT PER THOUSAND DOLLARS OF CONSUMPTION.

>> AND THE BASE RATES. >> AND SO YOU COULD DIRECT US TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO CHANGE THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR THE UTILITY BILLING RATE THAT WOULD EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY X AMOUNT INCREASE IN WATER BILLS PER MONTH.

>> FOR THE AVERAGE USER. >> I GET STUCK PAYING FOR BOTH OF THOSE INCREASES WERE SOMEBODY SHOULD ONLY BE PAYING A PORTION OF THAT APPLIES TO WASTEWATER.

>> CAN THAT BE A YOUR ACTION TONIGHT? TO ASK YOU TO DO THAT?

THAT LITTLE CLEAN NUMBER. >> WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO ALSO DIRECTING STAFF FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ON DECK? WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR FOR 24 I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT SPECIFICALLY JUST TO BE HONEST.

TO LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY AND ALSO LOOK AT MIXTURES PHYSICALLY YEAR TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S PROJECTED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME ANTICIPATION AS TO RECOUPING THE COST.

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YOU CAN GO A LITTLE HIGHER TO FUND THAT. >> I DON'T WANT TO CHARGE HIGHER BUT AT LEAST HAVE SOME EXPECTATION. ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT LIST.

EVEN THE STAFF TO BE LIKE A THESE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE CAN PUSH TO THE THIRTY-YEAR.

>> IT GIVES US A STARTING POINT, WE ARE LOOKING AT, WHAT THE OUTLOOK IS OPEN CAN START

PARTIALLY FROM THEIR QUARKS. >> KNOW WE HAVE TO GET A HIGHER NUMBER FOR THE REST OF

THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DELAYED. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MIGHT PROPOSE THEN WHAT WE WILL DO A STAFF IS COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS THE ADOPTION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS HE WOULD ADOPTED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH ENDED UP THE FEE SCHEDULE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. WE WILL SLAKE THIS CONVERSATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. IT IS THE TIME THAT LEADS UP TO STARTING THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE NONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 EXCEPT FOR THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE STARTING IN 24 AND FINISHING IN 25 SLATED TO BEGIN.

NONE OF THOSE FORCES HAVE GONE UNDER THE BARN SO TO SPEAK. WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS FOR ANYTHING SLATED BEYOND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE 24 PROJECTS.

>> I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE A WORK SESSION. >> THE LIBRARY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SETH IS PUT ON HOLD. WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING ANYTHING

UP. >> THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE IN SEPTEMBER.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THESE STUDIES. LIKE I WAS TELLING THE CUSTOMER

DON'T KNOW I WOULD DO A STUDY FOR SOMETHING. >> AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH BONUS AND HIS PEOPLE. CAN WE BORROW $500 MILLION FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS? WHAT ARE THE CREDITS THINK WHEN WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE MAY WANT TO BORROW 300 MILLION AND BUILD A LIBRARY AND A STATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

DURING THE STUDIES TODAY FOR SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR FOR FIVE OR SIX

YEARS YOU PROBABLY NEED TO WAI . >> PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT REEVALUATING IT. WE HAVE A DESIGN BUT TO GOD AND SPEND $10 MILLION TODAY BECAUSE YOU WILL BE HELP DOING PEOPLE'S TAXES? X ON TOP OF DEALING WITH WATER INCREASES ANOTHER ROAD PROJECTS THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT IT ONE YEAR AT A TIME BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM.FIVE YEARS AND START SEEING THE DECK CLIFF WHICH IS NO 2028. THIS IS WHY THE MAYOR AND I FIRST GOT UNTIL COUNSEL AND IT WAS STRUCTURED PHONES TO BE WHERE THERE IS A MASSIVE INCREASE IN SO HE REFUNDED SOME

UNTIL HE TOOK THE INCREASE AWAY. >> YOU GET TO THOSE POINTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STRATEGY GENERALLY IS FOR THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS.

IT'S TO PHASE IN THE PAYMENT OF HER TIME. >> GOT A $2.5 MILLION

INCREASE. >> AS PART OF ONE OF YOUR STRATEGIES WHICH IS FREE PRIORITIZATION OF PROJECTS WE WILL LOOK AT REPRIORITIZING THOSE PROJECTS AND MAYBE PUT A HOLD ON SOMETHING SO THAT WE ARE NOT CHARGING OUR TAXPAYERS TOO MUCHAT ONE TIME .

WELL DONE THANK YOU. NO ACTION FOR THIS ONE. >> WE DID.

>> WEEK GOING GET STAFF DIRECTION. >> WE HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE.

IF YOU WANT STUFF DIRECTED TO DO SOMETHING YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AND DIRECT THEM OTHERWISE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS QUARKS THEY HAVE

[04:05:18]

>> WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK BEFORE THE VOTE ON THE 20 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE

FEE SCHEDULE AS PART OF THE BUDGET. >> WE CAN ADOPT THE WEEK AFTE

[13.3. Consideration and possible action on the addition of September 28, 2023 as a regular Council meeting date (Anne LaMere)]

. >> WE HAVE THE FEE SCHEDULE SLATED TO BE ADOPTED.

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.3. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE

ACTION OBSERVED FOR 22,023 AS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING DATE. >> AND MAKE A MOTION TO SET

SEPTEMBER 20, 2023 IS A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. HERE'S MY QUESTION.

THE WAY WE DO THIS, WHAT WOULD CAUSE US TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING? IT WAS ONE THIRD PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.

THEY ALWAYS SAID THAT YOU CAN SCHEDULE ADDITIONAL REGULAR MEETINGS AND ADDITIONAL SPECIAL MEETING WORKSHOPS. IT HAD A LAUNDRY LIST. THE ONLY THING WE ADDED TO IT WAS RESCHEDULING OF MEETINGS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT.

IN THE PAST WE HAD DONE IN ORDINANCE FORWARD IN A MEETING OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

NOW SINCE YOUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS YOU TO DO IT AS AN ADDITIONAL MEETING YOU CAN DO IT BY MOTION. THE ORDINANCE SAYS YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY SPECIAL MEETINGS,

WORKSHOPS AS YOU WANT. IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE COUNCIL. >> I WAS THINKING MORE OF REGULAR IT SEEMS LIKE NOW AUC REGULAR MEETINGS OF IMPORTANCE AND I WOULD JUST MOVE MEETINGS AROUND AND MAKE NEW MEETINGS AND CALL THEM REGULARS TO GET BUSINESS DONE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT SOME POINT IT'S GOOD. >> THE REASON WE ARE CALLING THIS A REGULAR IS TO COMPLY WITH THE CHARTER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS ON THE REGULAR MEETING DATES. BEFORE WE ALWAYS KIND OF RIGHT INTO THAT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TWO WEEKS APART.IT WOULD MATCH ONE OF YOUR NORMAL MEETINGS.

IN LOOKING AT IT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE AND THE ADDITION OF THIS MEETING WITH THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE WRITTEN TO REGULAR MEETINGS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 13.3? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[14. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

ITEMS 14.1 THROUGH 14.10. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 14.4 AND 14.5.ARE THERE ANY OTHER

ITEMS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PULLED? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 14

THREE AND MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> ANY OTHER ITEMS? NO OBJECTION TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 14.1, 14.2. 14.6, 14.8.

14 POINT NINE AND 14.10. >> SOME OF. >> SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

[14.4. Consideration and possible action adopting Ordinance No. O-2023-059 related to Parks and Recreation Ordinance Section 18.02.006 Sale of Goods and Services (First Reading) (Jeff White)]

>> THE MOTION PASSED THE SEVEN AND ZERO. 14.3 WENT TO EXECUTIVE.

14.4. ORDINANCE NUMBER R - 2023 ? 059.

[04:10:04]

SOME INSIST THEY SOLD THOUSAND CANS OF BEER AND WE TAKE 10% OF THAT.

. TO ME IT AUTOTEST BE CONFUSING WITH HOW WE ARE DOING THIS.

THEY HAVE TO PAY A CUT. BACK TO US BUT A PERSON WE ARE PAYING TO MANAGE PAYS US AS PART OF A PROFIT. WE ARE NOT MAKING THEM PAY. DIRECTORS OF CHAOS.

A PORTION OF THE PROFIT, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, PER THE AGREEMENT THEY PAY US THREE DOLLARS A TICKET.

BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD WITH THE THE AGREEMENT WAS ADOPTED IN APRIL, THERE WER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SALES RELATED TO THIS AGREEMENT, SO THIS IS A CHANGE THAT LEGAL IS RECOMMENDING RELATED TO OUR SALES OF GOODS AND SERVICES ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE DOCK AGREEMENT.

>> AND READING IT, FIRM RIGHT, IT WAS ANYTHING MORE THAN 5,000 TICKET SALES IN ORDER TO AVOID THIS IF THEY DO A SMALL EVENT, THEY'D STILL NEED TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE?

>> YES. WHICH I'M FINE WITH. >> BUT THEY'RE NOW MANAGING SOM OF THE EVENTS THAT WE ORIGINALLY, THAT PEOPLE DID ON

THEIR OWN. >> DIRECTORS OF CHAOS?

>> YES. >> THEY'RE MANAGING --

>> I UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S ASIAN MARKET NIGHTS THAT'S GOIN

THROUGH THEM. >> WELL, THEY HELPED THEM THE

FIRST YEAR. >> HOW MUCH DID WE GET OFF THAT THAT WASN'T PART OF THE FEE THE PAID. THE SALE OF GOODS AND SERVICE, THE WHOLE ORDINANCE IS PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM USING TH PARK AS A HOME BASE BUSINESS, S THEY CAN'T ALLOW IF SOMEBODY SELLS WIDGETS, THEY CAN'T JUST GO UP AND SELL THEM TO PARK GUESTS. THIS ORDINANCE PROHIBIT THAT AND GIVES POLICE STANDING GROUND TO NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. BUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS JUST ASKING TO ALLOW THAT BASED ON THE AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THAT MINOR CHANGE.

>> I READ IT INDIVIDUALS ENGAGE WITH THE PROVISION SELL OF GOOD OR SERVICES ON CITY PARK PROPERTY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PA NO LESS THAN 10% OF GROSS PROCEEDS.

>> BECAUSE PART A SAID THEY HAD TO HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION. WE WENT THROUGH THIS TWO MONTHS AGO, AND YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND YOU SAID NO, YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS, AND EVEN THE BASEBAL LEAGUE CAME UP AND SAY WE WANT THIS IN THERE SO PEOPLE CAN'T SELL THEIR STUFF WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR STUFF AND HAVE THE 10%, AND WE ALL VOTED AND AGREED TO THIS. THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE RED LINE TO COVER FOR OUR ONE FOR CONTRACTS.

>> THIS DIDN'T COME BEFORE US TWO MONTHS AGO. JUST FOR THE

RECORD. >> WE DID DISCUSS --

>> WE DID NOT. WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT I THINK IS THE HYBSA CONTRACT. I'M NOT SAYING TAKING OUT A WHICH IS THEY HAVE TO GET PERMISSION. I'M JUST SAYING WHEN THEY GET PERMISSION I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO CHARGE THEM 10% OF GROSS PROCEEDS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY OF MEASURING WHAT THEY TOLD, AND WE'VE HAD NONPROFITS GET PERMISSION TO SELL AND THEN TEL

THEM THEY HAVE TO GIVE US 10%. >> JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T TRUST THEM, OKAY, SO WHAT IF YOU LIED YOU STILL GOT REVENUE FOR THE

CITY? >> MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION IS WE TAKE OUT AT THE TIME, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE COLLECTED LAST YEAR. DO WE

EVEN KNOW? >> LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED MINUSCULE AMOUNTS. A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS. THE MONEY JUST GOES INTO THE PARK GENERAL FUND

>> AND THE WAY I READ THE POLIC WAS THE ASIAN MARKET NIGHTS DOE NOT GET OUT OF THIS. YOU GET PERMISSION TO SELL, THEN YOU PA 10%, BUT WE KEEP LETTING PEOPLE NOT PAY THE 10%, SO I'M JUST PROPOSING SINCE NO ONE IS PAYIN IT, WHY HAVE IT IN THE ORDINANCE. LAST YEAR WAS 200 BUCKS OR ROUGHLY, I MEAN, YOUR GUESS. BUT IT WASN'T SUBSTANTIAL. I'M JUST SAYING WH HAVE IT IN THERE WHERE IT'S ANOTHER THING WE'RE KEEPING

TRACK OF -- >> JEFF, IS NO ONE PAYING IT?

>> WELL, WE'RE NOT HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW. TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PEOPLE THAT DO I EITHER FOOD TRUCKS THAT WANT TO SHOW UP TO DIFFERENT EVENTS OR PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ONES THAT USE PARKS AS

[04:15:03]

>> SO WE ARE COLLECTING? >> WE DO COLLECT SOME, BUT IT'S

ON THE HONOR SYSTEM -- >> AND IT GOES TO PARKS AND REC

>> YEAH, THE GENERAL FUND. >> SO BASKETBALLS FOR THE KIDS.

TALKING ABOUT NEEDING MORE REVENUE, BUT WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE LITTLE REVENUE WE COULD BRING IN, SO.

>> TAKE IT FOR THE KIDS. >> HERE'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO

WE DON'T CHARGE MARKET NIGHTS - >> BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE MORE

THAN 5,000 PEOPLE -- >> THOSE ARE CITY PERMITTED EVENTS, TOO. THOSE ARE CITY PERMITTED EVENTS.

>> OKAY NOW WE'RE GETTING TO SOMETHING. YOU'RE SAYING 5,000? THAT'S NOT PART OF SECTION 180-2006. YOU'RE COMBINING SOME OTHER SECTION INTO THIS, AND YOUR SECTION IS NOT GOING TO SA THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 5,00 PEOPLE --

>> IT DOES. I'M READING PART B. THE SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY T CONTRACTS PURSUANT TO SUBSECTIO A FOR THE GOODS AND SERVICES OF ANY EVENT VENUE SITUATED ON CIT PARKLAND WITH A CAPACITY OF 5,000 PEOPLE OR MORE OR ANY VENUE ASSOCIATED WITH PARKING O

PROPERTY AREA. >> SO THEN THAT'S THE PART

THEY'RE ADDING IN? >> RIGHT.

>> I'M AGAINST NOT TAKING FREE MONEY.

>> AGREED. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.

>> I'D LIKE TO AMEND IT TO ASK THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO

NONPROFITS AS WELL. >> I CAN TAKE THAT.

>> I'D SECOND THAT. >> I'D BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT A

AN AMENDMENT. >> DOES THAT MEAN THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE SAY JUNETEENTH OUT THER AND THERE'S FOOD TRUCKS --

>> WELL, THE NONPROFIT DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY.

>> A FOOD TRUCK IS STILL A COMMERCIAL ENTITY.

>> YEAH, IF YOU'RE FOR PROFIT YOU HAVE TO PAY.

>> JUST CHECKING. THAT'S THE THING. I'M NOT SEEING ANY OF

THIS MONEY COMING IN, SO -- >> JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN TODAY DOESN'T MEAN THAT AS WE GROW, WE WON'T HAVE IT. IT'S A

GOOD POLICY TO HAVE IN PLACE. >> FREE MONEY IS FREE MONEY.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE MILLIONS FO THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT

-- >> IT'S SOMETHING TO MONITOR AL

THE TIME. >> EXACTLY, FACTOR THAT ONE IN.

HAVE TO WALK INTO THE TRUCK AND CHECK THE REGISTER OUT.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THAT

>> ALL RIGHT, SO THE MOTION WIT THE MODIFICATION NONPROFITS ARE

EXCLUDED. IS THAT RIGHT? >> SO 501C3S OR THEY CALL

THEMSELVES A NONPROFIT? >> THEY HAVE TO BE A 501C3.

AMERICAN LEGION IS LIKE A 501C1 OR SOMETHING.

>> SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT NONPROFIT THAT'S REGISTERED WIT

THE -- >> IRS.

>> GOVERNMENT? IRS? >> YEAH, THAT'LL WORK.

>> UNDER 501. >> YOU HAVE SOME NONPROFITS REGISTERED TO IT CAN THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED WITH THE IRS THA

-- >> THEY'RE NOT A 501C3, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO SELL A SHIRT AND SAY YOU HAVE TO PAY 10%

BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A 501C3. >> HOW DOES THIS WORK? DO YOU A THE PARKS PERSON, DO YOU LIKE FOLLOW BACK UP WITH THEM AND SA FOOD TRUCK X, WHAT WERE YOUR SALES?

>> NO, NO, WE DON'T DO THAT. IT'S IN THE CITY PERMITTING PROCESS BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ON PARK PROPERTY. DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE SAY THERE'S AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE FOR SALES OF GOODS AND SERVICES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL STUFF, 10% OF THE GROSS RECEIPTS NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PARKS.

>> I WOULD SAY NONPROFITS WITH APPROPRIATE STATE OR FEDERAL

DOCUMENTATION. >> BAM.

>> DONE. SECONDED. OR APPROVE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

>> STATE OR FEDERAL. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON. >> AYE.

>> WILCOTT. >> AYE.

[14.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-192 regarding the Update of Library Policy and Procedure Manual and Library Brochure (Trudy Williams)]

>> COLAR. >> AYE.

>> CLARK. >> AYE.

>> THORNTON. >> AYE.

>> THANKS JEFF, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. NEXT ITEM 14.5

[04:20:09]

THROUGH THIS QUICKER. >> YOU'RE A TROOPER, GIRL.

>> OH, YEAH. >> DID YOU START EARLY THIS

MORNING? >> HUH? NO, I GET UP ABOUT 6:30

TO WALK MY DOGS. >> OH, GOOD LORD.

>> I'D GOOD. EVERYBODY GONNA VOTE? ALL RIGHT, GOOD NIGHT, THANK YOU! UNDERSTOOD THE PACKET OF THE LIBRARY DEAL WAS THAT IF A PERSON, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THIS RIGHT. IF A PERSON COMES IN AND DON'T LIKE A BOOK OR SOMETHING, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT, AND THERE'S A APPEALS PROCESS, BUT THE FINAL

DECISION RESTS WITH YOURSELF? >> I KNOW YOU SAID PAGE 18, BUT

WHAT ITEM? >> OH, I THINK IT'S THE GENERAL

THING. >> AT THE TOP?

>> LIKE NUMBER ONE, A CONCERNED PATRON DISSATISFIED WITH EARLIE DISCUSSIONS, THEY'LL GET OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND SECTION POLICY AND THEN THE PATRON IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A

CONSIDERATION FORM. >> THIS DIDN'T CHANGE FROM WHAT

WAS ALREADY IN PLACE BEFORE. >> HE READ THE WHOLE THING AND

LOOKS FOR EXTRA STUFF. >> WELL THEY'RE COMING TO US WITH BOOK ISSUES, BUT WE'RE NOT PART OF IT. I GUESS THE CITY MANAGER COULD TELL TRUDY YOU NEED TO NOT HAVE THIS BOOK OR HAVE IT, BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME T US, DO WE AS A COUNCIL WANT SOM APPEAL PROCESS TO US WHERE WE'R LIKE --

>> I THINK WE HAVE A LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, WE HAVE A CERTIFIED LIBRARIAN, AND I DON' WANT TO GET INTO, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, FREE SPEECH OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IS ALLOWED.

>> MAYBE WE CAN ALLOCATE THAT NEW LIBRARY POSITION TO DO THIS

INSTEAD OF US. >> MY PAGE 18 IS DIFFERENT THAN

YOURS. >> IT'S SECTION E, CONSIDERATIO

OF MATERIALS. YOU SEE THAT ONE? >> IT STARTS ON 17.

>> ARE YOU, WHAT IS THE TOPIC O THE PAGE YOU'RE ON?

>> RECONSIDERATION OF MATERIALS BUT IT HAS A NUMBER 2

DISPOSITION AT THE TOP. >> PARDON ME FOR JUST A MOMENT.

I'M SORRY. >> TRUDY, IT'S UNDER COLLECTION

DEVELOPMENT POLICY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT TAB. THAT TAB. >> PAGE 1,468 OF THE CITY

COUNCIL TABLET. >> TRUDY, I HAVE IT ON MY COMPUTER, DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT UP TO YOU?

>> IF YOU PLEASE, WOULDN'T MIND I'D APPRECIATE IT.

>> LOOK AT PAGE 17. >> RECONSIDERATION OF THE

MATERIALS. >> OKAY, UM, YEAH.

>> WELL IT SAYS DISCUSS THEIR CONCERNS WITH A LIBRARY MANAGER

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY! >> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THA PORTION WAS ON THE BOOKS BEFORE I WAS HERE.

>> OH, YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND. >> AND I DO KNOW IT'S BEEN USED I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. WITH TH PREVIOUS LIBRARIANS.

>> SO THAT WAS MOTION BY COUNCI MEMBER CLARK SECONDED BY MAYOR

PRO TEM GORDON. >> AND ONE HIGHLIGHT OF THE CHANGES I LIKE IS MOVING TO TWO-YEAR LIBRARY CARDS FROM ONE

YEAR. >> AGREED.

>> THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER ON STAFF WITHOUT AS MANY RENEWALS.

MY CARD EXPIRED AFTER THE MEETING, BUT BEFORE NOW, AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO G THROUGH SO I CAN GET A TWO-YEAR CARD INSTEAD OF A ONE-YEAR CARD I WILL BE IN SOON TO GET MINE.

>> SAME. >> EVERY DAY YOU BECOME MY

FAVORITE COUNCIL MEMBER! >> ANOTHER QUESTION. USE OF VOLUNTEERS. I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

IT DOES SEEM TO KIND OF CONFLIC IN HERE BECAUSE ONE PART SAYS,

THIS IS ON PAGE 51 -- >> IS THIS ONE OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES OR JUST SOMETHING ELSE YOU FOUND?

>> IT'S NOT A FINDING, IT'S WHE THESE POLICIES COME UP, IT'S --

>> REVIEWING WHAT'S SUGGESTED T BE CHANGED. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I IT ONE OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES

>> NO. >> IT IS NOT.

[04:25:01]

>> WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE NEED TO VOTE ON

THAT FIRST. >> WE CAN STILL DISCUSS THINGS BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO BE MADE.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST TAKE WHATEVER STAFF SENDS US, I HAVE AN IDEA, LET'S STOP REVIEWING ALL OF IT AND JUST AUTOMATICALL TAKE THINGS.

>> OR CALL STAFF IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION AHEAD OF THE MEETING S WE CAN ALL BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING UP AND WE CAN BE BETTER PREPARED FOR THE MEETING. MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.

>> IT'S MORE AN IDEA FOR BOOK BANNING AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. DOES THE COUNCIL SEE AN ISSUE WITH THE PROCESS.

>> NO. >> IS THE ISSUE WITH THIS

PROCESS? >> IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH TRUDY, IT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE

COUNCIL. >> NO, YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE LIBRARIAN AND YOU ADD IT TO THE THING AS A POSSIBLE AREA THAT WE DISCUSS. WE ALL SE IT IN THE PACKET AND KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP, AND WE'RE PREPARED FOR THE DISCUSSION. IT'S RESPECTING YOU FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

>> THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION ON VOLUNTEERS. THE WAY I READ THIS THE VOLUNTEERS MAY BE USED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, PROJECTS, OR ACTIVITIES OR ON A REGULAR BASI TO ASSIST STAFF. LATER ON THOUG IT STAYS VOLUNTEERS WILL NOT BE USED IN PLACE OF HIRING FULL OR PART TIME STAFF. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VOLUNTEERS DOING THINGS FOR ACTIVITIES AND ON A REGULAR BASIS TO ASSIST BU NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, IN PLACE OF A PART TIME

STAFF? >> A LOT OF THEM ARE UNDER AGE.

VOLUNTEERS ARE PRETTY MUCH LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN DO BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER AREN'T EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES ARE ON THE CLOCK. THEY'RE COMMITTED TO COMING EVERY DAY. A VOLUNTEER, UM, JUS LIKE WHEN SCHOOL STARTED, HALF OF THE KIDS CHANGED THEIR SCHEDULE, STOPPED COMING. SO THAT'S ONE THING. VOLUNTEERS AREN'T EXPECTED TO BE THERE AND OFTEN ARE NOT. NUMBER TWO IS STAFF ARE PRIVY TO, UM, PATRON RECORDS, AND WE DO ALL OF THE CIRCULATION DUTIES. VOLUNTEERS HELP US WITH PROGRAM PREPARATION. THEY HELP US WITH KEEPING THE COLLECTION LOOKING GOOD ON THE SHELVES. THEY HELP US, UM, PICK FROM OUR LIST OF ITEMS WE NEED TO TAKE OFF OR MOVE OR, YOU KNOW, THEY DO KIND OF, UM, IF YOU LAYER THE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES, STAFF ARE DOING THE DEEP STUFF, AND VOLUNTEERS DO THE UPPER LAYERS OF STUFF. THE LIGHT WORK.

>> TRUDY, IF I MAY, I'VE SEEN THE VOLUNTEERS, MY DAUGHTER WAS A VOLUNTEER IN THE LIBRARY. THE WOULD DO ARTS OF CRAFTS WITH TH KIDS. IF THERE WAS A GROUP OF KIDS COMING IN, THEY'D READ TO THEM. THEY'D DECORATE FOR AN EVENT OR IF THE REPTILE SHOW IS COMING, THEY'D MAKE COPIES OR HAVE THINGS THAT WERE READY FOR THEM. BUT MOST OF THEM ARE UNDE THE AGE OF 18, SO THEY CAN'T BE

A FULL TIME -- >> AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SET LIBRARY HOURS BASED ON VOLUNTEER SERVICE --

>> NO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT COMMITTED LIKE AN

EMPLOYEE. >> THEY'RE NOT GUARANTEED TO BE

THERE. >> RIGHT, AND THEY CAN CALL AT

ANY TIME -- >> AND NOT SHOW UP.

>> AND, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT ALSO LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT DOING, UM, THE DEEPER WORK. THEY'RE NO LOOKING AT CUSTOMER RECORDS.

THEY'RE NOT DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, FEES, MISSING ITEMS. SOMETIMES STAFF HAVE TO CONTACT THE CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING INTO THEIR RECORDS. ALSO, IN THE EVENT THAT I HAD AN INCIDENT IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY, A GENTLEMAN WAS SPEEDING, PULLED INTO THE LIBRARY PARKING LOT, AND RAN INTO THE LIBRARY. THE POLICE WERE WANTING TO LOOK FOR HIM, WANTED TO LOOK AT OUR CAMERAS. THE POLICY OF THE LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION WAS WE DON'T HAND OVER ANYTHING WITHOU A WARRANT, SO THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO WALK AROUND AND TRY T DETERMINE WHO IT WAS, AND, YEAH IT WAS THE GUY WHO SMELLED LIKE MARIJUANA. ANYWAY, UM, VOLUNTEERS CAN'T DEAL WITH THINGS LIKE THAT. VOLUNTEERS, YOU KNOW, CAN'T INTERACT WITH THE POLICE. THEY CAN'T INTERACT WITH OTHER PATRONS. I CAN'T HAV A PATRON TELL A MOTHER TO MAKE YOUR KID STOP CRYING WHERE I CA HAVE A STAFF MEMBER SAY IS THER ANYTHING WE CAN HELP YOU DO. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT VOLUNTEERS CAN DO, WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO COME AND KEEP THEIR COMMITMENT. NOT THAT VOLUNTEERS ARE BAD PEOPLE WHO DON'T KEEP THEIR COMMITMENTS, BUT JUST SAYING THEY HAVE MORE FREEDOM THAN A STAFF PERSON DOES. ONCE YOU'VE COMMITTED TO THE JOB, YOU'RE EXPECTED TO SHOW UP, EXPECTED TO DO YOUR JOB

[04:30:02]

DIFFERENCE. >> AND THEY ALSO DON'T GO THROUGH THE TRAINING, AND THERE'S RULES YOU HAVE TO

FOLLOW. >> YEAH, YEAH. TANYA JUST GOT HER DEGREE NOT LONG AGO. HANNAH JUST GOT HER DEGREE LAST FALL.

GOT MY DEGREE BACK IN, YOU KNOW SO, THERE IS A DEBATE WITHIN TH FIELD WHEREVER YOU HIRE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A DEGREE OR DOES HAVE THE DEGREE. THE TRAINING IS INVALUABLE.

>> YES. >> I WASN'T LOOKING, THE QUESTION WASN'T TO TRY AND REPLACE PEOPLE. IT WAS HOW DO YOU SUPPLEMENT PEOPLE, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND --

>> OH, I'M SORRY. I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.

>> NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WANTIN TO KNOW WHEN IT SAYS VOLUNTEERS CAN BE USED ON A REGULAR BASIS TO ASSIST STAFF, BUT LATER ON THEY CAN'T BE USED IN PLACE OF PART TIME STAFF. THAT MADE ME WONDER WELL, WHAT WOULD A VOLUNTEER DO TO ASSIST STAFF, BUT SAME THING A PART TIME PERSON WOULD DO. I WAS JUST WONDERING, IT WAS MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND THAT MORE. I KNOW THE LAST TIME FOR BUDGET YOU MENTIONED YOU CAN'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS IN PLACE OF STAFF.

>> RIGHT. >> I WASN'T WANTING IN PLACE,

JUST SUPPLEMENT. >> THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY JUST HELPING US OUT WITH LIGHT DUTY TYPE OF THINGS AND NOT DEEP DIVING ACTIVITIES. AND THEY CAN'T, LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN'T GET INTO PATRON RECORDS, THEREFORE THEY CAN'T GET BEHIND THE CIRCULATION DESK. THEY'RE JUST THERE TO HELP. PREPARATION AND THAT TYPE OF THING. FOR INSTANCE, SATURDAY IS OUR REPTILE PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS HELPING US DIRECT PEOPLE BUT THEY CAN'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO. THAT'S

UP TO STAFF. >> SO A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBE CLARK, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TE GORDON. APPROVALLED AS

PRESENTED, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> MAYOR GORDON.

>> AYE. >> COLAR.

>> AYE. >> SNIDER.

>> AYE. >> CLARK.

[15. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> AYE. >> THORN SON.

>> AYE. >> THOMPSON.

>> AYE. >> WILLCOTT.

>> AYE. >> MOVING ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE ITEM 14.3 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION O RESOLUTION R-2023-127 ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AS APPROVED BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. T H I D MEETING ON JULY 21ST, 2023 --

>> YOU HAVE TO READ THE 551.07 WITH THAT DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

>> THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION.

>> 14-3 PERTAINING TO 551-0073 --

>> .087. >> OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT --

>> RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY REPEALING RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2023-181 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A GROUN WATER RESERVATION AGREEMENT OR SIMILAR AGREEMENT AND WHOLESALE DELIVERY AND SALE OF PURCHASE O POTABLE WATER SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

ITEM 15-2 PURSUANT TO 551.071, CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY RELATED TO FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE IN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

ITEM 15.3, CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY RELATED TO ANNEXATION AND DISANNEXATION OF LAND WITHI WILLIAMSON COUNTY DRAINAGE DISTRICT 3 ALSO KNOWN AS STAR RANCH MUD. AND 15.4 RECEIVE

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>> LIKE THAT. >> YOU CAN BE LATE.

>> BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN, 16 POINT

[16. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

SESSION OF EXECUTIVE ITEMS. >> ARE WE GOING TO DO 14.3?

>> I'M ON 16.1. >> FORGET IT OR COME BACK LATER

>> EMOTION TO POINT -- APPROVE 14.3 IS PRESENTED.

>> WE ARE ON 16 POINT ONE, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> 14.3 WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.

>> 14.3, THE MOTION IS WHAT? >> AS PRESENTED.

>> AND SECONDED BY THOMPSON, MOVED BY CLARK. RESOLUTION ARE 2023 R 20/20 3173, ANY DISCUSSION QUICK

>> THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMEMBER THORTON FOR PULLING IT AND -- HELPING US WITH MORE INFORMATION.

>> PLEASE CALL THE QUICK >> WILCOTT QUICK

>> MAYOR QUICK >> YES.

>> HOUSE MEMBER KOHLER ? >> -- KOLAR YES.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON. >> IT PASSES 7-0. ANYTHING

ELSE? >> NO SIR.

>> DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION O ANY OF THOSE?

>> 15 POINT ONE, WE NEEDED TO TAKE ACTION. -- 15.1 . A MOTION TO REPEAL DOES NOT APPROVE R 23 194, REPEALING 181 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE GROUNDWATER AGREEMENT FOR THE WHOLESALE THE DELIVERY AND SAL OF POTABLE WATER, SUBJECT TO TH APPROVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY CLARK, SECONDED , BY KOLAR. DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE.

>> THOMPSON. >> YES.

>> WOOLCOTT QUICK >> YES.

>> MAYOR QUICK >> YES.

>> PRO TEM QUICK >> YES.

>> CLARK QUICK >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON.

>> YES. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION QUICK

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIO TO APPROVE 551 .071, WITH WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE DIRECTION GIVEN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY MOVING FORWARD. REGARDING FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE AND PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

>> WHAT WERE THOSE ITEMS? >> I THOUGHT WE HAD TO WAIT AND SHE WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH THAT, OR WAS THERE A SPECIFIC

ACTION? >> AND SPEC SIX -- SPECIFIC

ACTION. >>

>> OKAY, AND THE MOTION. >> ANYTHING ELSE? LET'S MOVE O

[17. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS ]

LIAISON REPORTS? >> HEARING 17.3, ADDITIONAL O RESCHEDULE MEETINGS AS ALLOWED BY THE CITY CODE SECTION 1.02 .33, ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULE MEETINGS? I MISSING THE ITEM,

I DON'T KNOW THAT'S FOR . >> THAT'S IF WE WANT TO.

>> WE DID ALREADY DO THAT, WE SLEPT SINCE THEN BUT THE ONE ON OCTOBER 5, AND OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON OCTOBER 5, TO OCTOBER 12.

>> WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. >> I THINK WE ALREADY DID. I'M

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ALMOST SURE. >> WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THE ORDINANCE TO PASS TO DO IT, I THOUGHT WE DID, THAT IS WHY I

WAS ASKING. >> THOUGHT WE DID IT AS A CONSENT LAST TIME, THAT IS WHY WAS ASKING.

>> I BELIEVE THAT WE DID. THEY CAN PULL OF AUGUST, AND AUGUS 3. OCTOBER 5. OCTOBER 12. THAT WE DISCUSSED IT.

>> WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO ADD SPECIAL MEETINGS, ALLOWING FOR THAT. WE DID IT, WE MEET EMOTION LAST TIME ON THE 17TH

MEETING. WE ALREADY DID IT. >> READY DONE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I'M NOT SEEING COMES TO MAYOR YOU SAID THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA. THE CITY COUNCIL

LIAISON REPORTS. >> 17.2.

>> 17.3 REPLACED IT. >> THE AGENDA ITEM. CAN WE

HAVE THE NEXT MEETING? >> WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THAT, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN ITEM FOR THAT.

>> WAS THE ITEM, I WAS TOLD I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THEN. ACRE IT WAS PROUDLY A MISTAKE. IF YOU LOOK THE SLIDES. AND THE LIAISON REPORTS. WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU WANT TO.

IT OR WE JUST TAKE IT FROM THERE. THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT, DUTIES AND RULES AND COUNSEL LIAISONS. AND LOO AT WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE AND CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. THEY WORK SESSION ON THE ARTICLES HAPPENS ONE.

>> SEPTEMBER 21. AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE PROTOCOL.

>> THE NEXT AVAILABLE ONE. YES >> THE LIAISONS. AND YOU WAN

TO DO THEM. >> JUST LOOKING AT UPDATING

WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. >> 10-12 WORK SESSION.

>> ANYTHING ELSE.

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