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ALL RIGHT, SEVEN O'CLOCK.WE'LL CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
FOR THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19TH, 2023 TO ORDER START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON PRESENT.TONIGHT WE'LL BE LED IN INVOCATION BY PASTOR ARTHUR L. SPENCE FROM LITTLE EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH.
YOU PLEASE RISE, SHALL WE PRAY? DEAR GRACIOUS GOD, OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU LORD FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US HEAVEN.
FATHER, WE ASK LORD TO BLESS THIS MEETING THAT WE HAVE HEAVEN.
FATHER LORD, BLESS SOULS THAT ARE HERE.
LORD BLESS THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS HEAVEN.
FATHER BLESS THE MAYOR LORD, EVERYONE THAT'S ABROAD HEAVEN, FATHER LORD, WE ASK HIM, FATHER, HAVE SPIRIT AMONGST US, LORD.
LORD, AS WE HANDLE THE BUSINESS HEAVEN, FATHER, FATHER, LORD, CONTINUOUSLY TO BLESS HER LORD, IT GROWS AND GETS BIGGER, LORD AND STRONG LORD.
WE THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR GRACE.
THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR MERCY.
LORD, THANK YOU LORD FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US IN SPITE OF OURSELVES.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU CONTINUOUSLY DO.
AND HEAVEN, FATHER LORD, AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE, LORD, HAVE YOUR ANGELS AND PROTECTION AROUND US.
AND FATHER, AS WE GET TO OUR DESTINATIONS, MAKE IT BETTER.
AND WHERE WE LEFT THE LORD, WE GIVE YOU ALL THE HONOR AND, AND THE GLORY AND THE PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS.
AFTER PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TEXAS.
FLAG OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
THAT BRINGS US TO CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.
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MAYOR, BEFORE I DO THE COMMENTS, WERE YOU WANTING TO DO THE PROCLAMATION OR WANTING TO WAIT? IT, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT I KNOW YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO DO IT, SO OH, YEAH, YEAH.WE, LET'S, IF, UH, COUNCIL ADJO JOIN US UP FRONT FOR A PROCLAMATION.
MR. MAYOR, MAY I MOTION TO ALLOW? OKAY, PERFECT.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S BREAST CANCER AWARENESS AND PINK OUT MONTH AND EVERYTHING FROM THE CITY OF HUDU, A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING PINK STRONG MONTH.
WHEREAS BREAST CANCER IS THE MOST COMMONLY DIAGNOSED CANCER AND THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF CANCER OF DEATH AMONG WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES.
EVERYONE IS AT RISK FOR BREAST CANCER EVEN IF THEY HAVE NO FAMILY HISTORY OF THE DISEASE.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF JUDO STANDS WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AND RECOGNIZES ALL WHO HAVE JOINED THEIR LOVED ONES AND FIGHTING THEIR BATTLE, AS WELL AS THE ADVOCATES, RESEARCHERS AND HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS GIVING HOPE TO THOSE LIVING WITH BREAST CANCER.
AND WHEREAS IN SUPPORT OF THE MANY WOMEN AND MEN BATTLING BREAST CANCER, THE SURVIVORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER THIS YEAR, THE CITY OF HUDU IS PROUD TO GIVE CANCER THE BOOT AND BRING AWARENESS TO BREAST CANCER, BREAST CANCER RESEARCH, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PREVENTION.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HU SUPPORTS EFFORTS SUCH AS THIS THAT PROMOTE EDUCATION, RESEARCH AND OTHER MEANS TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH, WELLBEING, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ITS CITIZENS, EMPLOYEES, AND GUESTS.
NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HUDU PROCLAIM OCTOBER, 2023 AS PINK STRONG MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL HU CITIZENS, EMPLOYEES, AND GUESTS TO WEAR PINK THROUGHOUT OCTOBER IN SUPPORT OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
AND, UH, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY PERSONAL THING.
UM, MY MOM GOT DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER, UM, TWO YEARS AGO, AND SHE PASSED AWAY WITH COMPLICATIONS IN JULY.
SO IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
IT'S NOT JUST SAYING A PROCLAMATION.
AND, UH, SO LET'S EVERYBODY DEFINITELY MAKE SURE YOU GET SCREENED AND AND STUFF BECAUSE EARLY DETECTION IS, IS VITAL.
[5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
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COMMENTS.MAYOR COUNCIL CITIZENS OF HU JAMES ERP, CITY MANAGER.
UM, GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, OUR HU P O V, UH, WHICH IS OUR CURRENTLY UNDERGOING FOR STORMWATER SURVEY.
SO THE HU P O V IS A, IT'S A DIGITAL TOOL THAT WE USE FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
PO P O V POINT OF VIEW, THAT'S WHAT IT STANDS FOR.
UM, AND WE USE THAT FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MORE INFORMAL SURVEYS.
IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT OVERLY SCIENTIFIC.
UH, AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS SURVEY IS ABOUT STORMWATER, AND IT'S, AND IT'S MEANT TO DE IT'S DESIGNED TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW AND WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT STORMWATER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO BE TRUTHFUL ABOUT YOUR CURRENT KNOWLEDGE AND HABITS SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE NEED TO BETTER EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY, UH, ABOUT STORMWATER ALTOGETHER, AND, UH, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS IN WATER QUALITY, UH, WITH RUNOFF WATER, THE SURVEYS ON THE HOMEPAGE OF OUR WEBSITE, AS WELL AS THE HU P O V DEDICATED PAGE.
SO, HU'S, UH, BEEN RECOGNIZED A NUMBER OF TIMES AS ONE OF THE SAFEST CITIES IN TEXAS.
ONE WAY THAT WE STAY SAFE IS THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND COOPERATION.
SO THE HU POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS LAUNCHED A NEW APP, UH, TO ITS CRIME FIGHTING ARSENAL.
THE APP WILL HELP RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES CONNECT WITH H P D TO SUBMIT ANONYMOUS TIPS FROM THEIR SMARTPHONES.
IT'S AVAILABLE FOR APPLE AND ANDROID, UH, TO BE DOWNLOADED FROM THE APP STORES.
PLUS H P D NOW ACCEPTS CRIME TIPS BY TEXT MESSAGE ALSO ANONYMOUSLY.
SO, FOR MORE INFO ABOUT THAT, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE NEWS FLASH THAT WE HAVE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
IN CASE YOU MISSED LAST MONTH'S ANNOUNCEMENT, THE HU PUBLIC LIBRARY NOW HAS LINKEDIN LEARNING IN ITS TOOLBOX OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO LIBRARY CARD HOLDERS.
SO TYPICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THAT IF YOU WERE WANTING ACCESS TO IT PERSONALLY.
BUT WITH A LIBRARY CARD, YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT LIBRARY OF OVER 16,000 ONLINE COURSES TAUGHT BY REAL WORLD PROFESSIONALS AND ALL OF THAT'S AVAILABLE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS AT HOME, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMFORT OF YOUR OWN PLACE AND ALL OF THAT FOR FREE.
SO, SO VISIT THE LIBRARY WEBPAGE FOR THE LINK AND MORE DETAILS UPCOMING EVENTS.
SO ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, ON EVERYONE'S RADAR AND OUR VERY HIGHEST PRIORITIES.
UH, BUT A CLOSE SECOND TO THAT IS OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE, INCLUDING MAINTAINING A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND SPECIAL SMALL TOWN CHARM.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE DO THINGS LIKE BEAUTIFY THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THE DAY OF CARING, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT AND VOLUNTEERED FOR THAT.
AND DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, LOOKED NICE WITH ITS SPRUCE UP, UH, WAS IN TIME FOR OLD TIMES, DAYS TOO.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER GOOD BENEFIT THERE.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, ALSO LOOKING TO ENHANCE FRITZ PARK.
AND THEN WE ALSO HOST SPECIAL EVENTS ALL YEAR ROUND.
SO THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHERE THERE ARE LOTS OF EVENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO GET TOGETHER, MOSTLY BECAUSE WE CAN STAND TO BE OUTSIDE WITHOUT, UH, BURNING UP IN, UH, BLOWING AWAY.
SO, UH, SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF EVENTS THIS TIME OF YEAR, BUT ALSO THE HOLIDAYS KIND OF BRING OUT THE BEST IN EVERYONE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO TOMORROW TICKETS WILL GO ON SALE FOR THE SANTA CLAUS CRAWL.
I KNOW THAT'S VERY POPULAR HERE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON DECEMBER 2ND AND IT IS ADULTS ONLY.
UH, THERE ARE, UH, ADULT BEVERAGES AND OTHER SHENANIGANS THAT OCCUR.
UM, SO, AND EACH YEAR THOSE TICKETS TEND TO SELL OUT.
SO, UH, MY ADVICE IS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING THAT YOU LOG IN TOMORROW AND, AND PROCURE THOSE TICKETS, YOU CAN STILL GO WITHOUT THE TICKETS OF COURSE, BUT YOU DON'T GET THE MUG, UH, SAMPLES OF THE FESTIVE DRINKS.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK YOU GET THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE BAG WITH SOME OF THE GOODIES.
SO FOR IN, FOR TICKET INFO, JUST GO TO THE DOWNTOWN HU FACEBOOK PAGE.
SATURDAY, THERE'S GONNA BE A JOB FAIR OUT AT THE BRUSHY CREEK AMPHITHEATER.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE GROUP THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH IS LOOKING TO FILL A WIDE VARIETY OF ROLES TO, TO WORK.
IT'S PART-TIME FOR SURE, BUT, BUT TO WORK, UH, AT THE AMPHITHEATER, THIS CAN BE BOTH SKILLED IN ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS.
THE JOB FAIRS FROM 12 TO FIVE SATURDAY AND AGAIN ON SUNDAY.
IT'S ALSO INFORMATION ON THE AMPHITHEATER WEBSITE ALONG WITH TICKETS FOR THE BIG SHOW COMING UP THERE ON NOVEMBER 4TH, THAT'S GONNA BE STARRING THE FLUES BEAT SOUND SYSTEM.
AND MORE NEXT WEEK ON FROM OCTOBER 25TH TO 28TH IS THE COUNTY FAIR AND RODEO.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUT TO THAT AND GO SUPPORT, UH, ALL THE KIDS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED TO GET THEIR STUFF TO THE FAIR.
UM, THAT'S OVER IN TAYLOR AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
THE FULL SCHEDULE AND INFO, YOU CAN FIND THAT AT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY WEBSITE, OR THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE FAIR IS WILCO FAIR.COM.
NEXT WEEKEND, WE'LL FEATURE THE GREAT HU CLEANUP ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28TH.
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TAKE ITEMS FOR DISPOSAL TO EAST WILLIAMSON COUNTY HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER, THE PARKING LOT, UM, IT RUNS FROM 8:00 AM UNTIL ALL THE DISPOSAL BINS THAT THEY BRING IN FROM OFFSIDE ARE FULL.THIS IS REALLY, WELL, NOT REALLY, THIS IS ONLY FOR NON-HAZARDOUS ITEMS. SO EXAMPLES THAT YOU COULD DISPOSE OF WOULD BE LIKE OLD FURNITURE, MATTRESSES, UM, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
WHAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WILL BE REJECTED ARE THINGS LIKE PAINT, OIL, UH, ELECTRONICS, UH, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ITEMS AROUND THE HOUSE, AROUND THE YARD THAT YOU'RE ONLY NEED TO GET RID OF, UH, THAT IS NON HA WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED NON-HAZARDOUS OR ELECTRONIC, THEN, UH, PLEASE TAKE THAT OUT THERE.
ON THE SAME DAY ON OCTOBER 28TH, WE'LL ALSO BE HAVING FRIGHTS AT FRITZ.
THAT'S A COMMUNITY COSTUME PARTY GOES ON AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
UH, IT DOES INCLUDE SENSORY FRIENDLY, FUN, AND THEN AFTER SOME TRICK OR TREATING THE WINNERS OF THE HALLOWEEN HOUSE OFF WILL BE ANNOUNCED.
UH, THE EVENT WILL FINISH WITH A SHOWING OF HOCUS POCUS TWO AS A MOVIE IN THE PARK.
AND THEN THE LAST HALLOWEEN FOCUSED EVENT WILL BE THE BOO BASH AT THE HUDDLE PUBLIC LIBRARY ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 30TH, FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN, RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE COSTUME PARTY FOR KIDS WILL FEATURE CLASSIC PARTY GAMES SUCH AS MUSICAL CHAIRS AND PIN THE NOSE ON THE JACK OF LANTERN.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS TO RECOGNIZE TONIGHT, UH, THE NEXT CLASS OF OUR JUDO CITIZENS UNIVERSITY.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, THE, THE SECOND, UH, CLASS, UH, NOT SO I GUESS YOU'RE NOT THE FRESHMAN CLASS NOW.
UM, BUT THE SECOND CLASS OF THE, OF CITIZENS UNIVERSITY.
UH, SO WE WANNA RECOGNIZE ALL OF OUR GRADUATES.
KATE, DID YOU HAVE A, A PROGRAM THAT YOU WANTED TO DO, OR AM I READING FROM HERE? JUST GIMME DIRECTIONS AND I'LL FOLLOW, UH, READ THEIR NAMES.
WHAT IF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE ALL THEIR NAMES? 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE'LL GIVE THIS A GO.
OH, CINDY, YOUR NAME'S GONNA GIMME HELL.
UH, FIRST UP, OH, SO LET'S JUST BACK UP REAL QUICK.
SO, HU CITIZENS UNIVERSITY IS A 10 WEEK, EIGHT WEEK, NINE, NINE WEEK, JUST RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE TWO NINE WEEK PROGRAM ABOUT CITY SERVICES, ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THEY GET SOME HANDS ON.
UH, THEY TOOK A FIELD TRIP, I THINK, TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND TO THE, THE SILO FARMER, FARM FARMER MARKET.
SO WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CLASS, UH, AGAIN IN THE SPRING, OR, OR PROBABLY A SPRING.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO CREATE A, A CITIZENS UNIVERSITY TOO FOR LIKE THE SOPHOMORE CLASS, IF YOU WILL.
SO EFFECTIVELY WE'RE LOOKING FOR TWO OF THE, OF THE FIRST LEVEL CLASSES TO FEED INTO THE SECOND LEVEL CLASS.
AND THAT'LL BE EVEN MORE DEPTH, MORE TIME, UH, MORE FUN.
LET'S SEE HOW I DO, UH, ALEX COLLINS, IF YOU WANNA COME UP, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE TO THE END
CINDY B
I'M GLAD HE WASN'T HERE TO HEAR ME MISPRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME.
PRESTON PARKER AND SHARON GIBSON.
SO THESE PEOPLE WERE SUPER DEDICATED.
UM, AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM, UM, CAN WE INVITE THEM TO, TO SHARE? OH, YOU JUST WANNA SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW, YOUR EXPERIENCE? YEAH, SURE.
WOULD ANY OF YOU LIKE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
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SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, MAYOR SCHNEIDER AND THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY SECRETARY, I MEAN, SORRY, CITY MANAGER FOR, UM, I MESSED YOUR NAME UP.SHE WAS HERE WITH US EVERY NIGHT.
UM, SHE, OR EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT THAT WE WERE HERE AND BROUGHT US SOME AWESOME FOOD.
SO, UH, THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.
BUT IT WAS A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE CITY OF HUDU AND THE, THE PROGRAMS. I AM A 25 YEAR VETERAN, OR LIVED IN, UH, PFLUGERVILLE FOR 25 YEARS, AND I JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO HUDU ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN, UM, MAKING HUDU MY PERMANENT HOME.
SO I WANNA KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT, UH, THE CITY AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY AND HOW I CAN, UH, MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I'D LOVE IT IF THE COUNCIL WILL PLEASE STAND YEAH.
OH, I DUNNO, THE PINK BREAKS ALWAYS OVER THERE.
IT WAS LITERALLY LIKE I WAS IN THE STAIRWELL.
MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT ( Part 1 of 2 )]
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THE, THE LIGHT WILL BE GREEN.YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT, THAT'LL GO TO YELLOW.
AND, UM, WHEN IT GOES TO RED, YOUR TIME'S UP.
FIRST PERSON WE HAVE TO SPEAK IS ROBIN SUTTON.
ROBIN SUTTON, 25 YEAR RESIDENT AND EX-CO MEMBER.
I'M GONNA START WITH WHAT THE DEFINITION, DEFINITION OF WHAT IT MEANS TO DISPARAGE SOMEONE.
IT MEANS TO CRITICIZE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IN A WAY THAT SHOWS YOU HAVE NO RESPECT OR VALUE FOR HIM, HER OR IT.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE $12.5 MILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST CUDO.
HERE'S A SNAPSHOT FROM THE TRANSCRIPT DATED TO 2 28, 23, LINE SEVEN, PAGE TWO 30 IN MIKE SNYDER'S EXAMINATION.
THE OPPONENT, THE OPPOSING ATTORNEY QUESTIONED.
YOU'VE COME OUT TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR HURO AND HURO DOESN'T SPEAK FOR YOU, AND YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THE NON-DISPARAGEMENT AGREEMENT.
AND SO YOU THINK YOU'RE FREE TO MAKE DISPARAGING REMARKS ABOUT MR. JONES AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING SOME LAW OR COURT? THE ANSWER? I THINK IN GENERAL, ANYBODY SHOULD MAKE DISPARAGING COMMENTS, BUT I GUESS IT'S IN THE EYES OF WHO THE DISPARAGING COMMENT WAS.
I MEAN, A MINUTE AGO, I'M POSTING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THURSDAY NIGHT, AND YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT AS DEFAMING SOMEBODY OR BEING DISPARAGING, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE COMMENT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO INSINUATE THAT EVERY TIME I POST SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, THAT'S DISPARAGING, I CAN'T HELP HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT WHAT I POST ABOUT QUESTION.
SAY, I DON'T SPEAK FOR HUDU AND HUDU DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME, BUT YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE IS CALLED MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HU.
WHEN YOU POST ABOUT MEETINGS WITH BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPERS ON YOUR MAYOR FACEBOOK PAGE, IS THAT YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY FOR QT OR AS A MAYOR OF HURO? DO YOU HAVE A MIKE SNYDER REAL ESTATE MANAGER FOR QUICKTRIP FACEBOOK PAGE? I KNOW LINKEDIN IS, YOU HAVE ONE THERE, AND YOU ALSO ADD MAYOR OF HUTTO ON THAT.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT YOURSELF ON THAT PAGE.
I'M A HANDS-ON PERSON WHO'S NOT AFRAID OF A CHALLENGE.
TEAM BUILDING HONESTY AND INTEGRITY HAVE GUIDED ME THROUGH MY VARIOUS ROLES AT WHAT MANY CONSIDER THE BEST RUN, BEST MANAGED CONVENIENCE STORE COMPANIES IN NORTH AMERICA.
QUICKTRIP, I HAVE PROVEN, I HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF BUILDING RELATIONSHIP WITH VARIOUS INTEREST HOLDERS OF OUR VARIOUS PROJECTS.
BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IS THE MOST CRITICAL PART
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OF WHAT I DO IN REAL ESTATE.I HAVE WORKED, I HAVE WORKED IN OVER 20 YEARS, 20 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND USE MY EXPERIENCE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESSES FOR EACH OF OUR STORES AND TO COMBINE LOCAL INTERESTS WITH THE INTEREST OF QUICKTRIP.
SO LET'S GO BACK WHAT YOU SAY, HONESTY DEFINITION, JUST IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, HONESTY MEANS SPEAKING AND ACT AND ACTING TRUTHFULLY IS MORE THAN NOT LYING, DECEIVING, STEALING, OR CHEATING.
IT ENTAILS SHOWING RESPECT TOWARDS OTHERS AND HAVING INTEGRITY AND SELF-AWARENESS.
BUT YOU HAVE OPENLY SAID, ON RECORD AND IN WRITING, THAT NO ONE SHOULD TRUST YOU OR ANYONE.
AND IN CITY HALL, INTEGRITY, INTEGRITY IS AN INDISPENSABLE, INDISPENSABLE MORAL VIRTUE.
THAT INCLUDES ACTING WITH HONESTY, FAIRNESS, AND DECENCY.
I COULD EXPAND ON THIS BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE LOST, A LOST QUALITY IN OUR CULTURE.
AND IN YOU APOLOGY, A REGRETFUL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OFFENSE OR FAILURE.
YOU DON'T GET TO TELL SOMEONE THAT THEY'RE NOT OFFENDED OR HURT BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AN APOLOGY SOUNDS LIKE I MADE A MISTAKE, I APOLOGIZE, AND I'M CORRECTING MY BEHAVIOR, NOT FOLLOWED BY EXCUSES OR EXPLANATIONS.
JUST, I'M SORRY, I MESSED UP AND I HURT YOU.
HAVE AND CONTINUE TO HURT MANY PEOPLE IN HURO, YET YOU CONTINUE YOUR ATTACKS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT TEAM BUILDING.
WHAT ARE YOU
YOU SAY TEAM BUILDING, HONESTY, INTEGRITY, GUIDED YOU THROUGH YOUR VARIOUS ROLES WITH QUICKTRIP, YET YOU CONTINUE TO IGNORE A BLACK COMMUNITY WHO IS WAITING FOR A REAL APOLOGY FROM THE DAIS.
YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHEN THIS ISSUE IS OVER.
I THINK THIS TOWN IS WELL AWARE OF THE TYPE OF TEAMS YOU BUILT AND WHAT THE MISSION STATEMENT IS.
MIKE IS MY MAYOR, AND I STAND WITH MIKE.
YOU AND YOUR GROUPIES CONTINUE TO HURT AND ATTACK COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DISAGREE WITH YOU.
ATTACK AND DESTROY AT ALL COSTS.
I AM ONE OF YOUR VICTIMS. AND YEAH, I SAID THAT OUT LOUD TO YOU.
I AM ONE OF YOUR VICTIMS. AND WHEN I SAY YOU, I DON'T MEAN YOU SPECIFICALLY.
I MEAN ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU RECRUIT AND YOU BRING IN TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY, YOU CLAIM TO BE A HIPPO.
AS FOR ME, I STAND STRONG, I'M A SURVIVOR, AND I WILL NOT LET FEAR STOP ME FROM SPEAKING MY TRUTH.
I'D LIKE TO BE LAST IF POSSIBLE.
OH, I WAIVE MY TIME TO TERRANCE OWEN.
NEXT WE HAVE TERRANCE OWENS COUNSEL, UH, TERRANCE OWENS, UH, 23 YEAR RESIDENT OF HURO.
AND I THINK I SEEN, I WAS A FIRST CLASS, SO CONGRATULATIONS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA DO GOOD WORK TOGETHER.
UM, SO, UH, FIRST THING, I I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP.
FIRST IS, UM, WANTED TO BRING UP TO THE PUBLIC, UH, THE TRAIN DEPOT THAT SITS OVER AT THE HUDDLE I S D ADMIN BUILDING.
UH, LAST THURSDAY, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING, A CONVERSATION DOING THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATE, UH, THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE ABATED THE ASBESTOS OUT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EITHER AUCTIONING THE, THE BUILDING OFF OR DESTROYING IT.
AND THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN A, UH, A PASSION OF MINE FOR YEARS.
SO I WANTED TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.
SO I TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO REACH OUT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, MIKE FOWLER, UH, ANDREW AND TIM FROM THE CHAMBER, SOME OTHER LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SAVE THAT BUILDING.
THE BUILDING WAS, UH, BROUGHT OVER TO US.
IT'S THE ORIGINAL, IT'S THE THIRD TRAIN DEPOT THAT WAS, WAS BUILT IN 1930.
UH, IT WAS BOUGHT BY, UM, A, UM, A CITIZEN WHO HAD HIS FAMILY AND RAISED HIS FAMILY THERE.
AND, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD BEEN USING IT FOR THE HR FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BUT IT WAS JUST, JUST, IT WAS AN OLD BUILDING AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS GROWING AND IT NEEDED A NEW SPACE.
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WILL BE NOT LEADING, BUT BEING PART OF CONVERSATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, TO SAVE THAT BUILDING, UM, TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY.UM, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, AND JUST WANT TO, UM, GIVE A THANKS TO MIKE FOWLER.
I SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS ON HIS PORCH.
UM, THE MAN IS A, A AEG ALE LEGEND IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD INCUR PEOPLE TO, TO HAVE TIME TO SPEAK WITH HIM.
I KNOW THIS COUNCIL, UH, HANNO, HE SENT YOU YOU A, A LETTER, UH, GIVING SOME BACKDROP AND HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE'VE COME FROM.
THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS, GIMME ONE SECOND.
I HAVE A NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET AND I CONFER WITH HIM AND GOT HIS APPROVAL, AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF TIMING, UM, IN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
DANNY TRAN TAN IS A HUSBAND AND I'M READING HIS OFFICE FACEBOOK PAGE.
A HUSBAND, A DAD, A VETERAN, AND HE'S ALSO A CANCER SURVIVOR.
HIS MOTTO IS, LIVE BY INTEGRITY, KINDNESS, HONOR, GOD, AND LOVING ON OTHERS.
HE POSTED SOMETHING LAST NIGHT AFTER I GOT VERY FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY ABOUT SEEING SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, ABOUT PEOPLE CALLING EACH OTHER'S NAMES, GETTING AWAY FROM THE CONVERSATIONS AND GOING TO NAME CALLING THOSE WHO KNOW ME.
AND THIS IS TALKING TO DANNY, THOSE WHO KNOW ME, THAT I MAKE AN EFFORT TO USE MY CORNER OF SOCIAL MEDIA TO PROMOTE POSITIVE AND ENCOURAGEMENT.
I WAS RECENTLY CONTACTED BY SOMEONE ASKING, HOW CAN I BE SO OPTIMISTIC WHILE ENDURING SUCH A DREAD DIAGNOSIS AS CANCER? THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS DAY, DAY BY DAY.
I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE MENTALITY OF THE STRUGGLE WITH CANCER OR ANY HEALTH CONDITION AND CAN CREATE WITHIN US, ESPECIALLY WHEN OVERWHELMED BY DISCOURAGEMENT AND DETERMINED CREATED WHEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WORSEN AND THE TREATMENT EVENTUALLY RENDERS THEMSELVES AND EFFECTIVE.
WHILE I OFTEN TRY TO POST WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT NONE OF US ARE IMMUNE TO THE EMOTIONS WE MANEUVER WHEN WE COVERED IN FEAR, FRUSTRATIONS, AND UNCERTAINTY.
SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE TALKING, TAKING TWO STEPS BACK AFTER A VICTORIOUS LEAP FORWARD.
AND THE DESTINATION WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE OFTEN SEEMS FARTHER AWAY.
WITH EACH STEP BACKWARDS, WE STUMBLE.
AS AN OPTIMISTIC, AS AS I TRY TO BE.
ADMITTEDLY, THERE ARE DAYS WHEN IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET OUTTA THE BED, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE I'M BEING PHYSICALLY UNABLE, BUT BECAUSE THE MIND IS STUCK IN GRIEVING, SADNESS AND PROFOUND SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS.
EVEN ONE HAS SOLID IDEA OF WHO THEY ARE AND POSSESS THE TYPE OF CONFIDENCE DISPLAYED IN THEIR RESILIENCE.
HOPE CAN STILL APPEAR AS A DISTORTED PERCEPTION WHEN THE BURDEN OF ADVERSITY HITS THE HARDEST.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ADVERSITY IS A PART OF OUR LIFE THAT IS NOT TO MINIMIZE THE GRAVITY OF OUR ADVERSITY BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LEARN TO COPE AND SURVIVE THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THEY OCCUR.
THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN WE'LL FEEL OVERCOME WITH DEFEAT, SADNESS, GRIEF, AND LOSS.
THERE WILL BE DAYS WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS REPEATEDLY AND RELENTLESS HUNTING OUR MIND.
WHILE ALL OF THESE FEELINGS ARE VALID, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OVERCOME AND MOVE FORWARD IF WE'RE NOT WILLING AND ABLE TO REFRAME THE SITUATION.
REFRAMING IS A PROCESS AND HOW SITUATIONS AND THOUGHTS ARE CHALLENGING CHANGE.
AN EXAMPLE OF REFRAMING IS HOW YOU TALK TO YOURSELF ABOUT THE CHALLENGES YOU ARE FACING.
INNOVATING THE SETBACKS WITH A POSITIVE FRAMEWORK.
FOR ME, WHILE I HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY OF THOSE AFFIRMATION EMOTIONS, EXCUSE ME, I ACTUALLY CLICKED OFF OF IT.
UM, I DO NOT MINIMIZE THE GRAVITY OF THE, OF MY DIAGNOSIS, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS LIGHT TO BE FOUND AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
I'M STILL ACTIVE IN BREATHING.
I AM STILL ABLE TO SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH THOSE I LOVE, AND I'M STILL ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE AND FULFILL A PURPOSE BY MAKING SOME SORT OF DIFFERENCE BY REFRAMING THE SITUATION I AM ABLE TO TAKE TO MAKE A PLAN TO PUSH FORWARD, OVERCOME THE SETBACKS THAT CANCER HAS TRIED TO RENDER ME IN.
WHATEVER ADVERSITY BEFALLS YOU HOLD THE BELIEF THAT YOU WILL ENDURE AND OVERCOME.
YES, SOME DAYS WILL BE DIFFICULT.
THE STRUGGLE CAN BE AT BOOGER TO MANEUVER AND THE EMOTIONS THAT ACCOMPANY IT ARE CERTAIN VALID.
BUT DON'T DWELL ON BEING A VICTIM TO IT FOR TOO LONG.
AND DON'T EVER LET IT GET THE BEST OF YOU.
EVEN IN THE MIDST OF YOUR TR STRUGGLES, YOU ARE STILL CAPABLE OF VICTORIOUS ACHIEVING GREATNESS WHILE MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
THAT INNER FIRE CANNOT BE EXTINGUISHED IF YOU ALLOW IT TO BE THE GOD AND LIGHT FOR YOUR PURPOSE.
IT'S ABOUT TAKING IT DAY BY DAY.
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AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PREVAIL.MAY YOU SPEND YOUR DAYS AS A WARRIOR INSTEAD OF BEING A WARRIOR.
THOSE WORDS SPOKE TO ME AS I WAS STRUGGLING.
AND I TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS AN AMAZING MAN TO KNOW.
THIS IS WHO HE IS IN PERSON AND IN WORDS.
HE HAS STRUGGLED WITH HIS STRUGGLES, BUT HE IS THE MOST OPTIMISTIC.
AND YOU WONDER WHERE I GET IT FROM.
MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS, CYBER BULLYING, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
THESE ARE THINGS WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY UP HERE, ON THIS DICE, IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE GET TO A PLACE OF WHERE I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE SINCE SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH, AND I'M ASHAMED OF MYSELF FOR NOT COMING SOONER BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE TURMOIL IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAS HAPPENED AND HAS FESTERED.
WE HAVE HAD ARTICLES ABOUT US LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY.
AND HONESTLY, I FEEL KIND OF SADDENED BECAUSE OUT OF ALL THOSE ARTICLES, NO ONE REALLY TALKED TO ME BECAUSE I WASN'T CHAOTIC.
I DIDN'T DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE, THE ANGRY AND TO DISCUSS.
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BRING THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
AND NO ONE WANTED TO SIT AND LISTEN TO ME.
WHEN YOU, WHEN WE SAY WORDS AND WE TREAT EACH OTHER, WOULD YOU ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN TO AN EIGHTH GRADER IN A LUNCHROOM? WOULD YOU NOT INTERVENE? WOULD YOU NOT STOP THE NAME CALLING? WOULD YOU NOT TRY TO FIND A REASON TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON? CONFLICT RESOLUTION IS SOMETHING THAT WE TEACH OUR KIDS TO DO.
I, WE HAD KIDS UP HERE THE OTHER DAY FOR PARKS AND REC.
AND I TRULY BELIEVE WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND LISTEN TO OUR KIDS INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO US BECAUSE THEY'RE WATCHING US.
AND WE WONDER WHY WE HAVE BULLYING IN OUR SCHOOLS.
IT STARTS ON WHAT THEY SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND I WILL SAY THIS, I KNOW I WILL GET ATTACKED TOMORROW.
I KNOW I'LL HAVE A BACK, A TARGET ON MY BACK.
I WILL GET CALLED TERRENCE WOES ME.
BUT I AM A 31 YEAR INVESTED IN THE HEALTHCARE.
I TREAT PATIENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
IT IS THE ONLY WAY I SURVIVE AND DO MY JOB BECAUSE I HAVE TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND NOT ABOUT MYSELF.
WHEN WE SAY WORDS TO PEOPLE, THEY HURT.
AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THE MAN IN FLORIDA HAS HURT ME.
HE HAS WARMED ME OUT OVER THE YEARS.
I'M DONE NOT LETTING PEOPLE DICTATE WHO I AM AND MAKE FUN OF ME.
WE ALL ARE STILL DEALING WITH SOMETHING WE CAN POST AND WE CAN GO TO WORK.
BUT WHEN WE GO BEHIND OUR CLOSED DOORS IN OUR HOUSE, WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH SOMETHING.
WHEN WE HAD SOMEONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS COMMIT SUICIDE.
BUT I COULD TELL YOU, DEALING WITH THE SANDBOX OF MADELINE PLACE, DEALING WITH KIDS, SUICIDE IS A TEMPORARY, AS A, AS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY SITUATION.
SO WHEN WE SEE AND WE ATTACK EACH OTHER ON SOCIAL MEDIA, NO, YOU MAY BE BE THE ONE, YOU MAY BE THE PERSON WHO POSTS SOMETHING TO SEND AN INDIVIDUAL TO A PLACE WHERE THEY MAY NOT WANNA COME BACK.
BECAUSE WE BRING UP PERSONAL ISSUES, WE BRING UP MUGSHOTS, WE BRING UP EVERYTHING.
AND YES, I'M TAPPING AGAIN 'CAUSE I'M UPSET AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A HYPOCRITE.
I'VE BEEN A BIG, BIG HYPOCRITE.
I'M THE, I'M THAT GUY WHO'S WILLING TO MEET WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE.
AND THERE ARE A FEW THAT I HAVE NOT 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PLACE TO DO THAT.
BUT I GIVE YOU MY, MY HONOR AND MY, MY, MY WORD THAT I WILL REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS.
I WAD, UH, RETROACTIVE APPEARANCE, PLEASE.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE ANGELA OWENS AND SHE'S YIELDING TO ANISHA.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANISHA WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.
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MY NAME IS ANISHA WILLIAMS. I'M A 20 YEAR RESIDENT AND HURO, UM, I'VE COME UP HERE AND SPOKEN ABOUT CONSCIOUSNESS, RACE CONSCIOUSNESS, WHICH IS MY FORM OF ACTIVISM.AND I'M GONNA DO THE SAME THING TODAY.
UM, ONCE WHEN WE HAD A TOWN HALL ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE D N I COMMISSION, BECAUSE THE D N I COMMISSION WAS NOT FUNCTIONAL AND WE WERE ASKING FOR IT NOT TO BE DISBANDED, BUT TO BE SUSPENDED UNTIL IT WAS FURTHER TRAINED, UNTIL THE CITY WAS TRAINED, UNTIL THE CITY STAFF HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN TO LEVEL SET.
UM, MR. SNYDER ASKED ME IF I WAS QUALIFIED, HOW I WAS QUALIFIED.
SO I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY AND QUALIFY MYSELF.
UM, I AM A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON ETHNIC, CULTURAL AND RACIAL MINORITY ISSUES.
I GOT A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY AND THAT WAS MY SPECIALIZATION.
AS WELL AS I'VE WORKED IN COMMUNITY PROGRAMMING FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
I'VE WORKED FOR GOODWILL INDUSTRIES OF CENTRAL TEXAS, DOING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, HELPING PEOPLE WITH BARRIERS TO EMPLOYMENT.
I HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, HAVE DONE COMMUNITY-BASED POLICING.
AND I'VE WORKED IN HUMAN RESOURCES AND I'VE ALSO WORKED FOR ROUND ROCK I O C, UM, DOING AFTERSCHOOL, UM, TIMING PROGRAMMING, UM, INSTRUCTIONAL CURRICULUM FOR COLLEGE READINESS.
AND I'VE WORKED FOR, AS A CONSULTANT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS FOR VARIOUS STATE AGENCIES DOING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UM, FOR PROCUREMENT, CONTRACTING, ENGINEERING, ALL OF THAT.
SO I'VE WORKED GOVERNMENT, I'VE WORKED CITY, I'VE WORKED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
NOT ONLY IN MUNICIPAL, UM, BUSINESS, BUT I'M VERY VERSED IN COMMUNITY BUSINESS AND HAVE BEEN SPEAKING AND WORKING FOR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
SO I COME HERE TO SAY, UM, AS YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION TRAINING, WHICH I DID SEE AS AN AGENDA ITEM TODAY, AND I DID LOOK AT THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, BUSINESSES, UM, VENDORS THAT YOU GUYS HAD.
AND I WOULD SAY VERY EASILY THAT I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE ADEQUATE, UM, SELECTIONS.
AND IT'S NOT THE VENDORS THEMSELVES, BUT BEING A PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST AS WELL.
I'M A CERTIFIED TEXAS CONTRACT MANAGER.
I DON'T KNOW OR THINK THAT DUE DILIGENCE HAS DONE FOR THE AMOUNT OF ISSUES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN HU.
UM, CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS ARE VERY MAJOR AS YOU CAN SEE WITH US BATTLING A $12.5 MILLION LAWSUIT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS ADEQUATE TO DISCUSS MINIMAL BUDGET AND TO NOT PUT OUT A R F P POSSIBLY FOR OTHER, UM, VENDORS, UM, POSSIBLY LOCAL VENDORS AND POSSIBLY MORE INCLUSIVE VENDORS WHO CAN ADDRESS SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I ALSO DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A ONE-TIME TRAINING.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOES COME AND HAVE AN, SOMEONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT OUR ISSUES ARE AND TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME TYPE OF RESTORATIVE, UM, TRAINING SO THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY IN SOME TYPE OF WAY BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN VERY, UM, HARMFUL DAMAGE DONE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO ON A CONSCIOUSNESS LEVEL, WHAT I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW IS SHIFT.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH COLLEAGUES, WHITE PEERS, NON-BLACK PEERS, WE TALK ABOUT CENTERING.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT IS RACIAL CONVERSATIONS, I ASK WHITE PEERS TO NOT WHITE CENTER.
WHITE CENTER IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE.
IT IS THE MAJORITY CENTERING AND IN, IN AMERICA AT THIS POINT, NOT JUST AS FAR AS IN BEING A RACIAL MAJORITY, BUT ALSO A MAJORITY THAT MAKES LEGISLATION AND DECIDES WE CENTER THAT WAY.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT THE MAJORITY SOMETIMES DON'T GET CENTERED.
SO I'M ASKING EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TODAY TO SHIFT, SHIFT IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.
SHIFT AS A MAJOR, A MINORITY CENTER FROM A MINORITY CENTER.
UM, NOT JUST BLACK, BUT PEOPLE WITH MARGINALIZED VOICES HAVE BEEN HARMED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVEN'T JUST BEEN DIRECTLY HARMED, BUT THEY'VE BEEN SEEING THE HARM HAPPEN AND SEEING NO, UM, ONE IN SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY OUR MAYOR.
I SAY NO ONE IN SPECIFIC, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN BE COMPLICIT.
OUR MAYOR HAS NOT BEEN CONTRITE.
OUR MAYOR HAS ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, MOCKING, JOKING, UM, NOT ABLE TO SAY.
UM, AND, AND AT THIS POINT THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS NOT EXPECTING YOU TO APOLOGIZE.
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UM, WE UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE AND I'M SPEAKING AS A REPRESENTATIVE.I'M NOT SPEAKING AS EVERY BLACK PERSON, BUT WE SEE WHO YOU ARE.
AND IF SOMEONE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY WERE TRULY APOLOGETIC, IT WOULD SHOW AND THEY WOULD SIMPLY SAY IT AND IT WOULD BE DONE AND OVER WITH.
BUT MINORITY CENTERED MEANS I NEED THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAJORITY TO CONSIDER ME.
I NEED THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAJORITY TO CONSIDER MY NEEDS.
I NEED THE PEOPLE AND MAJORITY TO UTILIZE THEIR POWER FOR ME AND NOT AGAINST ME.
THE OTHER SHIFT, SHIFT FROM POLITIC CENTERED TO COMMUNITY CENTERED.
NOT EVERY TIME WHEN YOU GUYS ARE UP HERE IN THE DAAS, ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? SOMETIMES EGOS GET IN THE WAY, AGENDAS GET IN THE WAY AND PERSONAL ISSUES GET IN THE WAY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE COMING AND BULLYING AND ATTACKING PERSONAL ATTACKS, WHICH DON'T BELONG IN THIS DAAS, BUT SHIFT FROM POLITICKING TO COMMUNITY.
I DO KNOW THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO IDA WEAVER BEFORE, UM, I WAS TOLD THAT SHE WAS BETTER THAN ME.
AND THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO NICOLE CALDERONE BEFORE SHE CUSSED ME OUT AND TOLD ME, F YOU, I WAS IN COMMUNITY SPACES WITH THOSE PEOPLE DOING COMMUNITY.
I WAS AT A VENDOR AFFAIR WITH MY CHILDREN DOING COMMUNITY WITH NICOLE.
SHE WAS JUDGING MY CHILDREN'S VENDOR FAIR BOOTH.
AND I WAS AT MARQUITA KNOX'S, UM, HAIR SALON TRYING TO HELP HER KEEP HER BUSINESS WITH IDA.
BUT YET HERE WE ARE IN CITY HALL AND WE ARE AT ODDS.
WHY? BECAUSE OF THE POLITICKING, NOT BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE HEALED.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE UNITED.
WE NEED TRAINING THAT WILL HEAL AND UNITE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS EDUCATE YOU ALL AND THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO SHIFT FROM BEING MIKE FOCUSED TO HUDDLE FOCUSED.
AND I'M BEING VERY PERFECTLY HONEST.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT MIKE HAS NOT DONE GOOD THINGS, BUT MIKE HAS DONE SOME VERY HARMFUL THINGS.
NOT TO ONE PERSON, BUT TO MANY PEOPLE.
I CAN NAME THOSE PEOPLE, UM, BUT I CHOOSE NOT TO.
AND IT'S FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE OR MORE.
AND MIKE CANNOT BE THE BE ALL AND ALL POWER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE CANNOT FOCUS EVERYTHING ON MIKE'S ACTIONS, INCLUDING THE $12.5 MILLION AND HOWEVER MUCH RESOURCES HAS GONE TO THAT.
SO I'M ASKING FOR EVERYONE TO SHIFT FOR WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND NOT WHAT MIKE NEEDS.
AND I'M ALSO ASKING YOU GUYS TO SHIFT FROM WHAT IS THE BARE MINIMUM WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.
WE SHOULD DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE AS FAR AS THEN IT GOES, YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER.
YOU CANNOT MAKE HIM APOLOGIZE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING? SO CAN WE SHIFT FROM WHAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH TO WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THE RIGHT THING? SO I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TONIGHT TO DO DUE DILIGENCE WHEN YOU DECIDE WHAT WE NEED.
WE NEED A REAL D N I, RESTORATIVE JUSTICE FOCUSED TRAINING.
WE NEED THE BUDGET DEDICATED TO IT.
IF YOU HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT, DO THE AMENDMENT.
WE HAVE SPENT SO MUCH RESOURCES ON LAWYERS AND SO MUCH TIME DEALING WITH ISSUES THAT HAVE THREE YEARS AGO.
SO SPEND THE TIME AND THE, THE NECESSARY, UM, DELIBERATION TO DO THIS.
AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU GUYS NOT TO VOTE ON A DECISION TONIGHT.
AND IF YOU NEED ANY CONSULTATION ON RFPS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LEGAL, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED HERE, BUT AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON DIVERSITY, INCLUSION AND BELONGING, I'M HERE TO ASSIST WITH THAT IF NEEDED.
NEXT WE HAVE GREG CULVER THAT YOUR PHONE, IS THIS YOUR PHONE? YES.
UM, I WAS HERE DURING THAT, UM, BEATING WHERE THE MONKEY SITUATION CAME UP.
IN NO TIME WAS RACE BROUGHT UP.
I THINK PEOPLE BEING TOO SENSITIVE ABOUT THIS, THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP.
WE GOT BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF FOR THE CITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS BULLYING AND NAME CALLING STUFF, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO ON A REGULAR BASIS AS FAR AS HANDLING THE PEOPLE'S
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BUSINESS THAN NAME CALLING AND WHATNOT.UM, AS FAR AS THE MAYOR IS CONCERNED, I THINK HE HANDLED HIMSELF FAIRLY WELL DURING THAT MEETING.
AND MR. THORNTON SEEMED TO, UH, DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB KEEPING, UH, TRYING TO KEEP THINGS ON TRACK.
AND I NOTICED THAT, UM, DURING A ARTICLE THAT WAS TAUGHT ABOUT THIS MONKEY INCIDENT, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, THE MAYOR SEEMED TO BE OBLIVIOUS ABOUT THE ISSUE AND THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS INNOCENT.
WELL, MAYBE HE DID, WHICH WOULD LIKELY SAY THAT HE'S NOT RACIST.
HOW ABOUT WE, WE JUST FOCUS ON THE CITY'S BUSINESS AT HAND, LEAVE THE, UH, RACE OUT OF IT.
AND AS FAR AS THIS D E I THING, IT'S A BAD, IT'S A BAD PROPOSITION.
HOW ABOUT WE FOCUS ON PEOPLE'S MERITS AND THE BUSINESS' MERITS AND STOP TRYING TO SHAPE BOXES, SOCIAL BOXES? UM, WE SHOULD NOT BE A LAUGHING STOCK ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IN NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT THIS.
UH, THIS STUFF I'VE DONE SUPPORTED PLENTY OF CITY OF AUSTIN'S MEETINGS AND CITY HALL AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL ARE BETTER THAN THAT.
SO I THINK RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
OH, AND AS FAR AS THE D E I, UM, I PAY ATTENTION TO ENTERTAINMENT AND BUSINESSES QUITE A BIT.
AND D E I DOESN'T DO ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES ANY GOOD.
LOOK AT DISNEY, UM, LUCAS ARTS, LUCAS FILMS, HOLLYWOOD.
JUST FOCUS ON, ON MERIT AND THINK.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE WAS WHEN IT CAME IN FROM NITA GARNER AND SO I JUST WANTED TO LET HER KNOW THAT WE DID RECEIVE THAT.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM SEVEN ONE, FIBER INSTALLATION PRESENTATION.
[14.1. General Comments from City Council]
MAY I HAVE MOTION TO MOVE UP 14.1 GENERAL COMMENTS SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF SHARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST WEEK IN THE COMMUNITY? THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.ONE GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WELL, THERE WERE SO MANY EVENTS THAT, UM, HAVE HAPPENED THIS PAST WEEK.
I I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THEM.
ONE OF THEM WAS, UM, RANDALL DOING THE COIN TOSS AT THE PINK OUT GAME AT HUDDLE MEMORIAL STADIUM FOR PINK OUT.
HE WAS STOKED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, UM, ON HIS MOM'S BIRTHDAY.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF PERFECT.
IT WAS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT FOR HIM.
AND, AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON AND I ARE, ARE HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN THERE TO SUPPORT HIM.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, UM, AS SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, THE CURLY ELEMENTARY STUDENT COUNCIL WERE GUESTS AT THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, UH, MEETING THIS WEEK INVOLVING OUR LITTLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE, UM, RENDERING OF THE PARK AND, AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND HOW THE VOTING GOES.
AND, UH, THEY SAW THE VETERANS MEMORIAL RENDERING THAT CAME UP AND, UM, THEY ALL WERE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE COLOR FOR THE VETERANS STONE.
AND THEY ACTUALLY VOTED ALONG WITH WHAT THE BOARD DID, WHICH WAS BLACK.
THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD AGAINST THE WHITE.
UM, ONCE YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET IT.
BUT IT WAS SO NICE TO HAVE THEM ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN ASKING QUESTIONS AND THE PROCESS.
UM, SO I KIND OF, I CALLED IT KIDS IN COUNCIL, UM, AND I'M GONNA JUST GO WITH IT.
SO I'M GONNA INVITE MORE KIDS TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE KIDS IN COUNCILS AND WHATEVER THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE THEM PARTICIPATE.
SO THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING AMAZING.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS OLD TIME DAYS, WHICH WAS BEAUTIFUL.
IT WAS, THE TRAFFIC WAS GREAT, THE SETUPS WAS GREAT.
UM, THEY SET IT UP A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR WITH THE STAGE AND THE CAR SHOW.
AND IT WAS, THE STAGING WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.
UM, IT'S BEEN, I I'VE BEEN A PART OF OLD TIME DAYS FOR WHAT, ABOUT 10 YEARS.
AND THIS WAS THE, BY FAR, THE BEST SETUP WE'VE HAD.
I SEE SOME KNOTS, THE BEST SETUP WE'VE HAD IN YEARS.
WE HAD GOOD BANDS, WE HAD A GOOD TIME.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, UM, I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE STARTED AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, KIND OF SHARING WHAT'S OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE.
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WITH, UM, HOW DO I S D AS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS.WE DO OFFER, UM, MONEY TO THE, THE H E F GRANTS FOR THE, THE TEACHERS TO USE.
SO WE DID, UM, WAS IT, I THINK IT WAS TWO DAYS WE DID SOME GRANT GIVEAWAYS AND, AND SHOWED UP AND WE HAD SOME VERY HAPPY TEACHERS AND KIDS WHO WERE EXCITED THAT THEIR, THEIR, UM, PROJECTS WERE SELECTED.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, IT'S THE HU EDUCATION FOUNDATION GRANT.
TEACHERS WRITE GRANTS FOR THEIR CLASSROOM AND THEIR STUDENTS AND ALL THE MONEY GOES RIGHT TO THEM.
NOBODY ELSE BUT THEM AND THE KIDS AND THE KIDS ARE SO EXCITED TO SEE SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS BEING SELECTED.
SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THOSE COME OUT TO FRUITION.
I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE WHAT'S OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL? SO THE, UH, D N I COMMISSION HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED THIS WEEK.
UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, THERE WERE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION AND ONE MEMBER WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.
SO THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL MEETING.
BUT THE THREE MEMBERS WHO DID ATTEND WERE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION AND SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING INTO, UH, AN AGENDA ITEM TO DO SOME GOAL SETTING AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.
UM, THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME TRAINING FOR THEMSELVES AND, UH, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT MIGHT APPLY FOR US AS WELL SO THAT WE COULD DO JOINT TRAINING POSSIBLY, UM, AND TO BRING US ANYTHING THAT THEY, THAT THEY WANNA RECOMMEND.
UM, AND WHEN WE GET TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT TWO, HOPEFULLY THERE ARE SOME IDEAS I HAVE THERE THAT WILL MAKE IT LESS LIKELY THAT WE'LL NOT HAVE OFFICIAL MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET MORE BOARD MEMBERS AND ALSO MAYBE AVOID SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARRIVE AND THEY WANNA DO WORK AND THEY CAN'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL MEETING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL JUST DO A QUICK, UH, UPDATE.
ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT I ATTENDED THIS PAST WEEK WAS THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR SEGMENT ONE OF THE, I KEEP CALLING IT THE SOUTHEAST LOOP.
THEY RENAMED IT EAST WILCO HIGHWAY, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT NOW? EAST WILCO HIGHWAY.
SO IT CONNECTS, UH, AT COUNTY ROAD 1 38 AND THE TOLL ROAD RIGHT WHERE H E B IS.
AND IT CONNECTS, UH, IT GOES EAST AND IT CONNECTS TO COUNTY ROAD 1 37.
SO AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, JAKES HILL, UM, RIGHT UP AT THE TOP OF THE HILL BEFORE YOU GO DOWN AND YOU GET TO BRITISH CREEK, CAMPY THEATER AND, AND, AND THE ADAM MORGAN PARK THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, UM, ENHANCE TRAFFIC AND FLOW FOR ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BROOKLYNS AND SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE SOUTHEAST AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
UM, SO IT'S A NICE LITTLE SEGMENT OF ROAD AND THEY'VE GOT SEGMENT ONE IS NOW OFFICIALLY DONE, SEGMENT THREE IS BEING WORKED ON, AND, UM, THEY ARE GOING OUT FOR BOND FOR SEGMENT TWO IN THE NOVEMBER, UH, BOND, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND, AND SEE THAT OPEN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I GUESS I HAVE ONE.
UM, EARLY VOTING STARTS ON MONDAY.
UM, SO JUST, UH, FOR AWARENESS, IT'S NOT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE TEND TO VOTE FOR, YOU KNOW, CITY ELECTIONS, PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS, BUT ELECTIONS HAPPEN, UH, VERY OFTEN.
SO, UH, THIS ELECTION IS, UH, AS, AS IMPORTANT AS ANY, ANY OTHER ELECTION.
UH, THERE ARE LOTS OF CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ON THERE.
UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE TO BE MORE INFORMED ABOUT THOSE, UH, 14 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
YOU HAVE A SAY SO IN HOW YOU CAN CHANGE THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION ALSO AS COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, UH, GORDON MENTIONED, UM, PROPOSITION A I BELIEVE IS THERE'S TWO PROPOSITIONS, UH, FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY PROPOSITION A IS THE ROADS, AND I THINK PROPOSITION B IS, UH, PARKS, UH, DEFINITELY A READ UP ON THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UH, WEBSITE AS TO HOW MUCH IS BEING PROPOSED.
AND ALSO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THAT LIST.
I THINK TWO OR THREE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR AREA, SPECIFICALLY.
SECTION TWO, I THINK EVEN MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO SECTION ONE.
UM, SO DEFINITELY JUST, UH, GO ON TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY'S WEBSITE TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW YOUR TAX DOLLARS COULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR AREA AND THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING AND HOW IT COULD, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, UM, CONNECTIVITY, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST MOVING ACROSS TOWN AND ALSO PARKS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT TOO.
SO JUST A REMINDER THAT STARTS ON MONDAY.
AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE ELECTION DAY OFFICIALLY IS THE FIRST TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE,
[7.1. Fiber Installation Presentation - Rick Coronado]
MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN ONE, FIBER INSTALLATION[00:55:01]
PRESENTATION.UH, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION PER SE, UH, BUT I WILL VERBALLY TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, Q AND A THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH IS, UH, KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THE FIBER TO HOME PROJECTS THAT, UH, THE CITY IS EXPERIENCING.
UH, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE, UH, IN THE EXISTING, UH, CODE AND OR ORDINANCES, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS HAVE, UH, HAD IN THE LAST OR MORE RECENTLY.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE THE CUSTOMERS FOR, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION.
I THINK THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE QUE Q AND A.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, MAYBE SOME NEXT STEPS THAT, UH, COUNCIL CAN TAKE AS WELL AS THE CITY TO KIND OF HELP PROVIDE A BETTER EXPERIENCE, UH, THAT WE ARE HAVING, UH, WITH THE INCREASED, UM, UH, FIBER COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE INCREASED, UM, EXPERIENCES AND SOME GOOD, SOME NOT.
UM, I'LL START OFF WITH, UM, LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM A RESIDENT TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UH, CONTRACTOR EXPERIENCES INCLUDING, UH, WHAT DOES THE CITY DO TO VET, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTRACTORS? UH, DO WE REQUIRE ANY LICENSING? CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY LICENSING FOR DRY UTILITY CON CONTRACTORS.
UH, IF THE CONTRACTOR DOES HIT A, UM, UTILITY, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, THAT, THAT REPAIR WITH THE LICENSED PLUMBER IF IT'S ON THE, UH, PRIVATE SIDE.
SO A LICENSED PLUMBER IS REQUIRED TO DO THE, THOSE REPAIRS.
UH, IF IT IS ON THE CITY SIDE, THE CITY HAS TO DO THAT WORK OR THE CITY DOES THAT WORK, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE HIT SOME OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING WATER OR WASTEWATER.
AND THE CITY CREWS WILL DO THAT REPAIR SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UH, THAT, THAT REPAIR.
WE WILL SEND A BILL TO THAT CONTRACTOR, IT'S CALLED A SPECIAL BILLING, UH, TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THAT THAT COST IS RECOVERED.
UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AND, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY RECEIVED, YOU RECEIVED A MEMO FROM LEGAL, UM, ON, AND, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL, WE WILL KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE MORE DIALOGUE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT, UH, PROBABLY, UM, HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING BONDING, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS, UH, IS THE, UM, CITY INSPECTOR ENSURING THAT REPAIRS ARE DONE BY CODE? UM, IT'S THE, AND IF, IF THERE IS AN OPEN HOLE, UH, DO THEY ENSURE THAT THAT IS PERFORMED CORRECTLY BEFORE THOSE, UH, REPAIRS ARE COVERED UP? UM, AND THE, THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT IF, IF THERE IS A CONTRACTOR THAT HITS ANY OF THESE UTIL UTILITIES, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE INSPECTORS IMMEDIATELY.
THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE RELYING ON THOSE CONTRACTORS TO CONTACT US, BUT UH, ALSO PROVIDE, UH, INFORMATION INCLUDING INVOICES THAT, UH, A PRI A PLUMBER HAS PERFORMED THAT WORK ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
UH, AGAIN, WE WOULD PERFORM THAT WORK ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AND ENSURE THAT, UH, WE FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, THAT COMPANY TO UH, RECOVER THOSE COSTS.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP IS, UH, DO YOU KNOW, UM, WHO THOSE CONTRACTORS ARE, UH, THAT ARE PERFORMING THAT WORK AND WHAT IS THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION? ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE A FIBER TO HOME, UH, INTERACTIVE MAP THAT'S UPDATED ROUTINELY AND THAT PROVIDES NOT ONLY, UH, THE COMPANY'S NAME BUT ALSO A CONTACT INFORMATION.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT OUT, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE AND UPDATE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT IS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER THAT WILL ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS FROM THE CUSTOMER, INCLUDING, UH, SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THAT AREA.
SO IT ACTUALLY LAYS OUT, UH, DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH DIFFERENT, UH, COMPANIES ARE PERFORMING WORK OR HAVE A PERMIT TO DO WORK.
SO THERE IS A, UM, INTERACTIVE, IF YOU GO TO A CITY OF HU INTERACTIVE MAPS, OKAY.
THERE'S AN UPDATED G I S MAP THAT IS CALLED FIBER TO HOME, UH, FIBER TO HOME.
AND, UH, IT IS UPDATED ROUTINELY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT CONTACT
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INFORMATION IS THERE, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, WHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, UH, CONTRACTORS ARE WORKING.THERE'S OTHER COMMUNICATIONS, UH, ALL UH, COMPANIES SHOULD, UH, NOT ONLY POST IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE WORKING, UH, WITH A CONTACT INFORMATION, BUT THEY ALSO SHOULD HAVE DOOR HANGERS TO PROVIDE THAT SIMILAR INFORMATION, UH, IF THEY'RE PERFORMING WORK AT A HOUSE OR A A RESIDENT.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANY OF THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THESE THINGS? 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD THEY'RE NOT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU KNOW, BUT DO YOU FOLLOW UP INDIVIDUALLY? SO, UH, IN, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN OCCASIONS WHERE WE RECEIVE THOSE CONCERNS AND SO WE HAVE INSPECTION STAFF THAT WILL GO OUT AND, UM, LITERALLY JUST COME UP TO SOME OF THE STAFF MEMBERS OR SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS NOT ONLY IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A PERMIT TO DO WORK IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO, UH, DEMONSTRATE SOME OF THEIR, UM, DOOR HANGERS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM IF THEY HAVE ALREADY, UM, PUT THOSE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, ON OCCASION WE DO FIND THAT, UM, THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING AND SO WE WILL, UM, MAKE THEM DO THAT.
UM, YEAH, SO TO MY CONCERN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO GET A NEW POLICY OR SOMETHING PUT IN PLACE AS AN ORDINANCE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PENALTY OR IF THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT LICENSED, UH, PLUMBER TO FIX ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WITHIN 72 BUSINESS HOURS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LIFE THING.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER TO YOUR HOUSE THERE, THERE'S SOME NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A 24 HOUR REPAIR, 48 HOUR REPAIR, IT NEEDS TO BE SOME NUMBER.
AND THEN UNTIL THAT'S DONE, IF THEY MISS THAT DATE, THEN WE NEED TO SUSPEND THEM TO DOING ANY WORK IN THE CITY UNTIL THEY'VE CURED IT FOR THAT RESIDENT BECAUSE THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE MORE DAMAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE IF THEY'RE NOT EVEN FIXING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU CAN TIE THEM, TIME IS MONEY AND IF THEY'RE HAVING TO THEN FIX STUFF BEFORE THEY CAN GO ON, THEN THAT'S THE TEETH.
'CAUSE DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE LIKE THAT? SO WE, WE HAVE, UM, STOPPED WORK FOR THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
UH, WE ARE TRYING, TRYING TO, UM, UM, MAKE THAT MORE CONSISTENT.
UH, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OR CHALLENGES IS THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE, WE ARE NOT NOTIFIED THAT THAT, THAT THAT DAMAGE HAS OCCURRED.
AND SO, UH, I MENTIONED ON SPOT CHECKS, IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT TO WORK, THERE IS PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THERE'S CURRENTLY NO PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU KNOW, NOT TURNING AROUND, UM, WATER RESTORATION WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
HAVE YOU HAD CASES WHERE YOU IDENTIFY THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE LICENSED PLUMBERS DO THE WORK OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CITY INSPECT IT? YES.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A CITY PENALTY FOR THOSE CASES, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPORTED TO THE STATE? 'CAUSE THE STATE PLUMBING BOARD WOULD, WOULD, UH, BE THE ONES WHO ENFORCE SOMETHING ON THAT, WOULDN'T IT? SO, SO THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS THERE AS WE BRING IN, WE, WE MAKE THEM COME IN WITH A LICENSED PLUMBER TO RECTIFY THAT.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE RECENT, UH, EVENTS AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO DIG IT BACK UP AND, AND FIX IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
IF IT WASN'T, AND IT'S STILL OPEN, THEY HAVE TO DO THE CORRECTIONS IN THE FIELD.
SO THE, THE PART THAT I THINK IS DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION TO IT, BUT A CREW WILL COME, THEY'LL HIT A LINE, THEY'LL PATCH IT THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S THE QUICKEST THING TO DO AND HOPE NOBODY NOTICES.
AND A RESIDENT BASICALLY HAS TO BE AWARE THAT, HEY, YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A LICENSED PLUMBER DO THAT AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND INSPECT IT.
AND IF THE RESIDENT'S NOT AWARE, THEN NOTHING HAPPENS AND NO CONSEQUENCES HAPPEN.
THAT IS CURRENTLY ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CRACK THAT, BECAUSE, UM, LIKE YOU MENTIONED IS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY REPAIRS IS NOT A STANDARD PROCESS, THAT THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE PROCESS.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMANENT REPAIR BY A LICENSED PLUMBER.
UM, AND SO IF THAT DOES NOT OCCUR THAT, THAT'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.
AND SO IF A RESIDENT HAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS DONE PROPERLY, IF THEY CALL THE, IS THERE A WAY FOR THEM TO CALL THE CITY AND SEE IF THERE WAS AN INSPECTION DONE? 'CAUSE THEY, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE AT WORK ALL DAY, EVEN IF THEY DID IT THE RIGHT WAY, A RESIDENT MAY NEVER KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED.
WE'LL WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS.
UH, I WOULD, I RECOMMEND THAT IN, I'LL PUT THAT IN MY NOTES AS TO, WE HAVE THE CITY OF HURO, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE AND THERE'S A, UH, GENERIC, UM, UH, LEADERSHIP, UH, EMAIL, UH, HURO PW THAT THEY CAN
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SEND THAT AND WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ON THAT.RICK, I'VE SEEN, UH, LIKE THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK WHERE THEY HAD MULTIPLE, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS DURING THEIR RECONSTRUCTION OF UNIVERSITY WHERE THEY WOULD POST, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT, HOW IT WAS DONE, UM, THEY WOULD POST, YOU KNOW, WHAT THINGS ARE TO KIND OF SOFTLY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO KIND OF MAKE SOME SORT OF VIDEO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, DISPLAYS POTENTIAL HAZARDS OR THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN AND, UM, WHERE THEY COULD GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE OR WHO THEY COULD CALL TO, TO GET THEIR CONCERNS OR, OR, OR FRUSTRATIONS ANSWERED.
UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT RESIDENTS AND, AND THE EASIEST WAY TO ABSORB INFORMATION, UM, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD EXPLORE, YOU COULD TAKE NOTES ON AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU AND ALLISON COULD WORK OUT? LIKE A LITTLE P S A VIDEO.
UH, I'LL WORK WITH ALLISON TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, FAQS WE CAN POST OUT THERE IN WITH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, UM, INTERACTIVE MAP THAT WOULD HELP IDENTIFY NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, BUT THEN HOW TO FOLLOW UP.
'CAUSE YOU'RE A SHARP DRESS MAN.
I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE.
LET'S LET, LET'S LET HIM FINISH OR EVERYBODY COME THROUGH ONCE BEFORE WE START.
I'LL, I'LL WAIT TILL THE NEXT QUESTION.
SO IN IN THOSE LINES, IF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY ASKS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT DAMAGE, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION.
OBVIOUSLY IF THE, IT, IT'S THE CONTRACTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT DAMAGE.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THIS DAMAGE ALSO EXTENDS INTO THE HOME.
AND SO JUST LIKE THE CITY WOULD BILL A SPECIAL BILL, THE CONTRACTOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CUSTOMER HAS THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER THAT THEY CAN CALL AND MAYBE MAKE A CLAIM ON, ON DAMAGE THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH IN ON THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO, UM, AGAIN, PERMIT RELATED.
UH, I DID MENTION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO, UH, NOT ONLY HAVE A PERMIT, BUT ALSO HAVE A INITIAL, UM, CONSTRUCTION, UM, MEETING, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING TO GO OVER ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING NOTIFICATION TO CITY STAFF TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IF INFRASTRUCTURE IS DAMAGED, UH, HOW TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, I DID MENTION THAT THERE ARE FINES, UM, RELATED TO REALLY, UH, NOT HAVING THAT PERMIT, UH, ESPECIALLY IF, I MEAN, THE PERMIT IS ONE FEE AND THE FINE IS DOUBLE THAT FEE.
SO I'D RATHER PAY ONE FEE THAN HAVING TO PAY DOUBLE THAT.
UH, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL LAID OUT IN THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THEY STAY IN COMPLIANCE.
NOW WE HAVE HAD, UH, SOME OF OUR STRETCHED OUR RESOURCES TO HOLD AD HOC MEETINGS IF THEY'RE HAVING PERFORMANCE ISSUES OR IF THERE'S, UH, CONCERNS OF A CERTAIN CREW NOT, UH, FOLLOWING THE, THE LICENSE REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO KIND OF BRING THEM BACK INTO SOME CORRECTIVE ACTION.
SO THAT, THAT HAS OCCURRED AT LEAST MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TOUCH ON PROBABLY SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEXT TIME.
AND I THINK THIS WAS ALSO PART OF, UM, DOTTIE'S, UM, KIND OF NOTE ABOUT WHAT NEXT STEPS MAY LOOK LIKE, UM, INCLUDING MAYBE, UH, REVIEWING SOME OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER, UH, RIGHT OF WAY MANAGEMENT.
UH, SHE'S SHARED SOME OF THE, UM, UH, OTHER CITIES ON WHAT THEY DO.
UM, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES FACING THIS TYPE OF CHALLENGE.
SO KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING, UH, POTENTIALLY, UM, A RECOMMENDATION ON, UM, UH, WHO PUTS THESE PLANS, UH, TOGETHER THAT MAYBE, UH, COULD BE BY LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
I KNOW WHEN I CAME FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT NOT ONLY REGISTRATION WITH THE CITY, UH, BUT ALSO LOOK AT, UH, SOME OTHER, UH, REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING BONDING, LIKE I MENTIONED.
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UH, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING SOME OF THE, UM, OTHER CITY'S ORDINANCES.UM, THERE'S SOME SUBSTANTIAL ONES INCLUDING, UH, AN EXAMPLE FROM THE CITY OF ARLINGTON.
SO I THINK PRESENTING SOMETHING IN MID-NOVEMBER, UH, TO COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION MIGHT BE, UH, A, UH, AN OPTION.
SO I'LL SEE IF DOTTIE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO.
UM, ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE MADE WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CITIZEN CONCERNS AND WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
SO A LOT OF THE, THOSE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THE CITIZEN ISSUES ALL SEEM TO BE IN THE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT.
AND THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IF WE FIX THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT DOESN'T FIX THE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE EASEMENTS.
SO JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.
UH, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE WATER LINES ARE GETTING HIT AT THE CUSTOMER'S HOUSE, AT THE CITIZEN'S HOUSE, THAT'S IN THE EASEMENT.
THAT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO, YEAH, I THINK, UH, TO RANDALL'S COMMENT ABOUT, UM, UH, THE TURNAROUND TIME FOR SOME OF THESE REPAIRS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE EXPLORE TO SEE IF WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT.
UH, SO THAT WAY CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S A CRITICAL SERVICE.
WE, WE DON'T NEED THEM OUT OF WATER.
UH, AND THEN FOR THEM TO CONTINUE DOING WORK, UH, IN OTHER PARTS JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE'S OUTTA WATER.
SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME VERY, UH, UH, IMPORTANT ISSUES HERE THAT WE WANT ADDRESS, INCLUDING UTILITY HITS.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO SINCE WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL PROTOCOLS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IS GOING IN ORDER.
AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA START DOING THAT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THINGS ALONG.
SO I'LL START WITH HOUSE MEMBER LAR, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, DISCUSSION POINTS OR ANYTHING.
SO DO WE HAVE A PERMIT PROCESS FOR THESE COMPANIES WHEN THEY COME IN TO DO WORK? YEAH, CURRENTLY THEY, THEY, UM, APPLY FOR A PERMIT, A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT MM-HMM.
AND, UM, THAT INCLUDES A REVIEW OF, OF PLAN SETS.
UM, THEY'RE ISSUED A SIX MONTH PERMIT, AND IF, UM, THEY NEED AN EXTENSION OF THAT PERMIT, UM, IT HAS TO, UM, BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER, UH, IF THEY ARE, UH, CONTINUING TO DO WORK IN THE AREA MM-HMM.
SO THE, THE EXTENT THAT RIGHT NOW IS A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, YEAH, WHENEVER I WENT TO T M L, I DID ATTEND THE LEGAL CLASS ON THIS.
AND OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT A LAWYER BY ANY MEANS, BUT I REMEMBER THERE, I GUESS THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE, I GUESS FOR CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES JUST BECAUSE OF, I GUESS FIBER NOT BEING FITTING IN WITH A UTILITY AND, AND LIKE TRADITIONAL LIKE TELEPHONE LINES.
IF, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT RIGHT, DOTTIE CAN CORRECT ME COMPLETELY.
SO IT'S KIND OF IN THIS GRAY AREA OF THINGS.
AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, I JUST PULLED IT UP, THEY HAVE 120 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT THEY ADOPTED A YEAR AGO, OCTOBER 25TH, 2022.
SO WE'RE A YEAR BEHIND A BIG CITY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, FAIR ENOUGH.
THEY FIGURED IT OUT BEFORE WE DID.
THEY PROBABLY HAD A LOT MORE ACTION THAN WE DID.
UM, BUT, UH, LIKE, UH, RICK SAID THEY HAVE A GREAT, THEY THAT WAS REALLY KIND OF SOMETHING AT T M L THAT THEY KIND OF, UH, PORTRAY TO US.
AND I'M SURE, UM, LEGAL HAS BEEN USING THAT WITH OTHER CITIES.
UM, I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCES ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT IS IN THIS GRAY AREA.
UM, AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE COMPANIES CAN GET A PERMIT THROUGH THE P U C, NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, SO THAT CAN AUTHORIZE THEM TO DO WORK TOO, WHICH IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS, GETTING A PERMIT THAT WAY.
UM, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOING, UM, MUDS, RIGHT? YOU, YOU CAN GO THROUGH T C E Q OR GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL, LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR LEGISLATIVELY, UH, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UM, IT'S BECOME AN ISSUE I THINK THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY USE OTHER CITIES, UM, TO GUIDE US AND I THINK THAT JUST STRENGTHENING OUR ORDINANCES, UM, IS JUST WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD.
COUNCILMAN WILCOTT, HE'S ANSWERED MINE.
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POTM GORDON.SO MY QUESTION WAS AROUND, UH, THE UTILITY EASEMENTS IN OLD TOWN.
SO WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DID MINE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND THEY WERE QUITE A BIT FURTHER IN THAN I WAS EXPECTING.
DO WE KNOW HOW FAR THE UTILITY EASEMENTS GO IN OLD TOWN? I'M BEING TOLD BY SOME RESIDENTS THERE THAT THEY AREN'T VERY DEEP INTO THEIR YARDS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF OUT BY THE STREET.
DO WE KNOW
JUST, JUST IN PARTICULARLY WITH OLD TOWN ITSELF.
PARTICULARLY WITH OLD TOWN, BECAUSE IT'S, I MEAN, IT WAS PLATTED, YOU KNOW, 1911.
UM, BECAUSE I GUESS THE CONCERN THERE IS IF THE EASEMENT ISN'T FAR UP AND KIND OF AWAY FROM THE STREETS, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO START SOME PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON LIVE OAK, WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE WIDENING THOSE STREETS AND ADDING, YOU KNOW, WET UTILITIES AND ADDING DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT WE'RE KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THOSE, UM, DRY UTILITIES FOR THE, THE FIBER THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DIGGING THOSE UP AND RUNNING INTO THOSE WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR WORK WHEN WE COME BACK, YOU KNOW, A YEAR LATER.
RICK, SO WHEN, I CAN'T REMEMBER, WHEN DID THE FIBER INSTALL START IN HUDA? LIKE ESTIMATE? I MEAN, ESTIMATE WHAT IF WE HAD TO GUESS WHEN WAS THE FIRST DAY WE, SOMEONE STARTED DIGGING AND PUTTING THE STUFF IN? UH, IF I HAD TO ESTIMATE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A ISSUE? COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CLARK, ABOUT A YEAR AGO THEY STARTED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST.
WHEN WAS THE TIMELINE FOR THAT? FOR WHICH THING? FOR FIBER THEY BEGAN WHAT, IN WHAT MONTH? PROBABLY IT WAS THIS YEAR.
YEAH, IT WAS, I THINK I GOT FIBER AT MY HOUSE IN MAY, BUT IT, IT WAS, IT WAS ONE COMPANY.
AND SO MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT YEAH, JUST TIMELINE.
I WANNA SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN MONTHS AND, UM, THERE WERE A FEW, UH, INSTALLS, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT, THEY STARTED EVEN IN THE, THE WINTERTIME MM-HMM.
SO IT MAY ALMOST BE COMING UP ON A YEAR.
SO, UH, AND MAYBE I CAUGHT, MAYBE YOU SAID THIS, I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
SO THE COMPANY DOES SOMETHING WRONG.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY SAY, I'M NOT GONNA PAY GUYS BACK, SEND 'EM A $50,000 BILL FOR BUSTING A MAIN LINE.
AND THEY GO, YEAH, THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DOES THAT COME AROUND? IS THERE LIKE A STATE LAW THAT WE WE CAN PIN 'EM TO OR WHAT'S THE, THERE'S NO STATE LAWS FOR, UM, FIBER BROADBAND.
WE JUST TAKE THEM TO COURT OR SOMETHING.
WELL, IT, IT, WE STRENGTHEN OUR REGULATIONS AND WE REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
THEN WE CAN, UM, TAKE 'EM TO COURT BASED ON THAT.
OR MUNICIPAL COURT IF THEY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE.
SO WE COULD LEGALLY MAKE THEM HAVE BONDING AND WE COULD LEGALLY MAKE THEM HAVE THIS OTHER THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE WOULD, SO THAT'S WHERE, THIS IS WHERE MY FRUSTRATION REALLY GETS IS WE GOT A DEVELOPER, HE WANTS TO CIRCUMVENT A, UH, A POND OR WHATEVER IN THE CITY.
WHOEVER WE RUSHED TOGETHER, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, WE COME UP HERE, BOOM, WE FIX THAT A YEAR AGO, FIBER COMPANIES ARE STARTING TO COME TO HUDDLE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY RULES, ANY ORDINANCES.
AND IT'S NOT ON YOU GUYS, QUITE HONESTLY.
IT'S ON THE CITY MANAGER, IT'S ON COUNCIL.
THIS THING COMES THROUGH AND WE JUST SIT BACK AND I HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY CALLS AND PICTURES OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE, I MEAN SOME OF THESE, WHAT DO THEY CALL 'EM, THESE TRENCH DIGGERS ARE SO BIG.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE CLAIMING THEIR, THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE BROKE, THEIR DRIVEWAYS ARE BROKE, THEIR WATER LINES ARE BROKE.
AND WE'RE HEARING NOW, AND I THINK WE GOTTA BE TOWARDS THE END OF THE INSTALL NOW, IT'S, WE PROBABLY NEED TO TIGHTEN UP OUR ORDINANCES.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COLLECT $250,000 OUT OF A CONTRACTOR OR A DEVELOPER ON A ATTENTION POND, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH AND AFFECT EVERY SINGLE HOMEOWNER, WE WOULD STOP SOMETHING IN THE CITY AND GO, HEY, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS FOR A MINUTE, GUYS.
LIKE WE, WE'VE GOT EVERY COMPANY COMING.
INSTEAD, WHAT I GOT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE FRUSTRATED BY THIS, IS THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
AND SO WHAT I STARTED TELLING PEOPLE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL THEN WHY ARE YOU GUYS EVEN IN GOVERNMENT? LIKE, THE ONE THING I NEED IS I NEED SOMEONE TO REPAIR MY YARD.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, I DON'T KNOW.
SO I SENT TO JAMES, JAMES HAS HIM CALL A NUMBER OR YOU GUYS CALL A NUMBER.
BUT HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING OUTTA
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THIS, IS IF WE HAVE ANOTHER THING COME UP, WHATEVER THE NEXT FIBER THING IS, INSTEAD OF US FOCUSING ON THESE LITTLE BITTY CRUMBS OF PROBLEMS THAT REALLY DON'T AFFECT 30,000 PEOPLE, WE AS A CITY HAVE GOT TO FOCUS AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S A MAJOR ISSUE COMING COUNCIL.THIS IS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
INSTEAD, I FEEL LIKE WE LET THE COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, WE LET EVERYBODY DOWN IN THE CITY BECAUSE PEOPLE GOT THE YARDS TORE UP.
AND NOW THE, I FORGOT WHAT THEY CALL IT, THE AFTER, UH, WHATEVER THAT THING'S CALLED, THE AFTER THING IS, WELL, WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
SO, AND I NEED TO CORRECT MY STATEMENT THAT I DID GET THE LEGAL REQUEST TO RESEARCH THIS IN APRIL.
WE DID BRING TO THE COUNCIL THE, UM, A REQUEST TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT, UM, THE BROADBAND ISSUE.
UM, THERE IS A CITY THAT IS BEING SUED, UM, FOR THEIR REGULATIONS.
WE, UM, JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THIS ISSUE IN LIGHT OF ALL THE OTHER ISSUES WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE, WE HAVE KIND OF CONCLUDED OUR RESEARCH AND, UH, PRESENTED EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE KNOW THE PEOPLE IN ARLINGTON, WE'VE TALKED TO THEM AND WE FEEL LIKE THEIR REGULATIONS ARE GONNA BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, LOOK AT FOR HUDU.
ALL ALL I'M GETTING AT IS, AND NOT FOR BIG DISCUSSION, IT'S JUST, I THINK WE GOTTA PICK WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND THEN FIGURE OUT LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE LOST WATER AT SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THESE GUYS ARE JUST LIKE, JUST BLOWING THROUGH AND CUTTING STUFF UP AND THEN COME BACK LATER.
AND NOW I'M HEARING LIKE, YEAH, PEOPLE WERE REPAIRING WATER AND SO WE WORRY ABOUT POTABLE WATER AND BACKFLOW PREVENTERS, BUT THESE GUYS ARE PROBABLY LETTING SEDIMENT AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF IN OUR PUBLIC WATER AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN KNOW.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD A LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT WE COULD HAVE RAISED HELL WITH OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE THAT, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THAT THESE GUYS GOT A DITCH WITCH? AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, TRENCHING THE WHOLE CITY.
BUT, SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE THIS OUT AND UM, I'M HOPING WE GET SOMETHING QUICK AND WE FIGURE OUT, UH, HOW TO DO ALL THIS.
YEAH, FOR THE RECORD, MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER.
UH, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARITY TO DOTTIE'S POINT.
SO I DON'T REMEMBER THE YEAR DOTTIE, BUT I KNOW THAT RECENTLY YOU GUYS DID UPDATE YOUR RIGHT OF WAY ORDINANCE BEFORE EITHER OF US GOT HERE.
UM, 'CAUSE I, WHEN THIS SITUATION CAME BACK UP IN LIKE MARCH OR APRIL, I REACHED OUT TO DOTTIE'S TEAM AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THIS.
AND UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY ORDINANCE.
AND SO I KNOW IT WAS UP RECENTLY UPDATED, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 21 OR 22.
IT, WHAT WE UPDATED WAS THERE WAS LEGISLATION FOR THESE SMALL CELL, UM, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO WE UPDATED THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE ALLOWED US TO ONLY REGULATE IN CERTAIN AREAS.
SO WE UPDATED THE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A DESIGN MANUAL, BUT THE, WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING IN YOUR RIGHT OF WAY IS THE TECHNOLOGY IS SO MUCH FURTHER AHEAD MM-HMM
AND AS SOON AS WE START LOOKING AT THESE REGULATIONS AND THE NEXT LEGISLATION SESSION COMES AND THE FIBER COMPANIES START COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MEAN WE ARE AND BAD WITH OUR REGULATIONS, WE'RE GONNA LOSE OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE THEM.
'CAUSE THAT'S JUST HAPPENED WITH ALL OF THE USERS OF YOUR RIGHT OF WAY.
THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT WAS DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE? SO THE WAY THAT ORDINANCE CURRENTLY READS IS WE CAN TELL THEM TO GO FIX SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO GO FIX IT OURSELF AND THEN BILL THEM.
IF THEY DON'T PAY THE BILL, THEN WE CAN TAKE THEM TO COURT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PROCESS THAT'S LAID OUT IN OUR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY.
AND WE WILL LOOK INTO WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE PUBLIC, UH, EASEMENT AS FAR AS UM, WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE FROM THEM AND WHAT KIND OF NOTICE THEY NEED TO GIVE TO THE HOMEOWNER AND TO MAKE IT TO WHERE THE HOMEOWNER KNOWS WHO IS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO MY, MY BIG THING, I, I CORRECT, I, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY POSTS.
SO THEY, THE, THE COMPANY THAT FIRST CAME THROUGH, IT WAS SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2022 IS WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED TRENCHING IN THE AREA.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY WAY PAST SIX MONTHS.
SO THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU GIVING 'EM EXTENSIONS? HAVE THEY DONE MOST? AND UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST MY CONCERN IS WHAT CAN WE DO FROM, I DON'T NEED FIVERR LINES RUNNING TO MY HOUSE FROM FIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
NOTHING YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT.
SO, BUT SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WHAT WE DID IN THE PIT IS WE REQUIRED THEM TO CREATE, TO PUT A BIG, UM, TUBE SO THAT THEY CAN ALL SNAKE THEIR SAME ONES DOWN SO THEY COULD PUT FIVE THROUGH IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TRENCH PEOPLE'S YARDS.
SO I THINK WE FIXED IT IF MY UNDERSTANDING, IF THAT IS NOT CORRECT AND WE STILL HAVE A GAP,
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THAT ONE THING THAT WE DID IN THE PIT POLICIES WAS SO THAT WE COULD FIX THAT.AND WE HAD ONE COME UP WHERE WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THEM LINE A PARTICULAR LINE, BUT WE PUT THE PIPE IN SO THAT THEY COULD FEED IT THROUGH.
SO WE'D AVOID THIS ISSUE FOR NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.
MY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, IS THERE A POLICY WHERE IF IT'S THE FIRST MOVER THAT WANTS TO GET THERE, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THEM FIRST MOVER ADVANTAGE, WE REQUIRE THAT WHEN THEY PUT IT IN THEY HAVE TO PUT THE PIPE.
SO THEN IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME THROUGH, THEY CAN GET COST RECOVERY BACK IF ANOTHER LINE COMES THROUGH JUST LIKE WE DO WITH OTHER ENTITIES, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD, AT LEAST EVERYBODY THAT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE MINE IN IN THAT AREA HAS ALREADY HAD BEEN ENTRENCHED.
BUT NOW WE GOT ANOTHER COMPANY COMING THROUGH ENTRENCHING THOSE SAME PEOPLE, THEIR YARDS JUST NOW GOT BACK TOGETHER AND NOW EIGHT MONTHS LATER THEY'RE GONNA GET IT TORN UP AGAIN.
AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA HIT THAT OTHER RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE TEARING UP UP A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THEIR YARD.
AND BECAUSE IN SOME OF THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, THE UTILITY EASEMENT IS 10 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK, WHICH GOES ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THEIR ACTUAL PROPERTY OF THEIR HOUSE.
AND SO THEY'RE TICKING UP STRAIGHT THROUGH THEIR FLOWER BED IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR YARD JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS.
'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ANY OTHER LINE IS.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I WANT TO FIX.
SO WE MAY BE SCREWED AT THIS POINT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT AT LEAST GOING FORWARD IN A PERMIT, CAN WE AT LEAST SAY THAT? OKAY, THE, THE, JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE PIS, ANY NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FIRST MOVER, THEY GET THE ADVANTAGE OF NOW BEING THE FIRST PERSON THERE.
SO THERE'S AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THEM.
AND THEN THEY COULD DO COST RECOVERY OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PIPE THAT, THAT THEY PUT IN THE PLASTIC PIPE THAT THEY CAN THEN RUN THE OTHER LINES THROUGH.
SO AT LEAST WE PREVENT TEARING UP PEOPLE'S YARDS MORE THAN ONE TIME.
'CAUSE I THINK PEOPLE DO WANT FIBER, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY WANT THEIR, THEIR HOUSE TORN UP FOR FIVE DIFFERENT FIBER LINES RUNNING THROUGH THE SAME YARD.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT WORTH IT, BUT GOOD.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? I, I DON'T KNOW.
WE LOOKED AT, UM, JOINT TRENCHING REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT'S HARD TO, UM, REGULATE SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S NO REGULATIONS AND AS SOON AS WE ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE JOINT TRENCHING FOR THE FIBER OR A PIPE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY ATTRACT A LAWSUIT ON THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CAREFUL.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND UM, WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK AT IN NOVEMBER.
YEAH, SO I DON'T THINK THE REQUIREMENT ON THE PS REALLY HELPS THAT MUCH THERE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES 'EM TO PUT, PUT IN, YOU KNOW, THE PIPE SO THAT YEAH, YOU CAN RUN IT THROUGH.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES ANYBODY TO SHARE THAT.
SO THE FIRST PROVIDER WILL GO AHEAD AND USE IT.
AND THEN THE, THE OTHER PROVIDERS AFTER THAT PROBABLY AREN'T GONNA GET TO USE THAT SAME ONE.
THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO RUN THEIR OWN SEPARATE LINE.
UM, THEY'LL ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE, IF YOU'RE RUNNING THEM IN THE SAME CONDUIT, YOU'LL BE HAVING SERVICE DISRUPTIONS BECAUSE THEY DAMAGE SOMEBODY ELSE'S LINE.
IT, IT'S NOT A SIMPLE THING TO JUST SHARE IT.
UM, BUT I THINK ECONOMICALLY THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW MANY LINES IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COMPANIES ARE GONNA WANNA BE THE THIRD AND FOURTH ONE IN A GIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD TO RUN FIBER AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE IS ALREADY THERE.
SO I THINK THAT WILL BE THE THING THAT KIND OF NATURALLY LIMITS IT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE ALREADY HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH AT LEAST TWO, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL.
UM, AS FAR AS PEOPLE QUESTIONING WHERE THE EASEMENT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CLOSING PAPERWORK FOR YOUR HOUSE, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A SURVEY IN THERE THAT SHOWS A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THE EASEMENTS ARE IN YOUR PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFERENT.
USUALLY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FAIRLY CONSISTENT AND THE CITY'S PROBABLY FAIRLY CONSISTENT BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT IN THE SAME SPAN OF YEARS.
BUT THINGS LIKE OLD TOWN MIGHT BE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, LEGENDS OF HU ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, IT'S A 10 FOOT FOOT EASEMENT FROM THE SIDEWALK, IT'S FIVE FEET EVERYWHERE ELSE AND THAT'S MASSIVELY DIFFERENT.
TEAR UP IN THEIR YARD AND THEN THEY, THEY SEE THEM TRENCHING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND GO, HEY, WHY ARE THEY NOT TEARING UP THEIR YARD? AND YOU'RE TEARING UP WAY INTO MY YARD.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND.
IT'S SO, I UNDERSTAND IT VARIES.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS CITIZENS GO, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR YARD AND DOCUMENT WHAT YOU SEE, TAKE PICTURES.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY REPAIRING SOMETHING, TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS REPAIRED BY A, BY A LICENSED PLUMBER THAT IT WAS INSPECTED BECAUSE THE LAST THING ANYBODY WANTS IS SOMEBODY REPAIRED YOUR WATERLINE AND SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WE'VE GOT A FREEZE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER AND THAT REPAIR THAT WASN'T DONE RIGHT, BREAKS, YOU'VE GOT A BROKEN WATER LINE AND GOOD LUCK FINDING THE CONTRACTOR AT THAT POINT AND GETTING THEM TO FIX IT.
SO GET IT, MAKE SURE IT, TRY TO MAKE SURE IT GET IT DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO ENFORCE THAT AND I DON'T
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HAVE A GREAT ANSWER ON THAT AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.BUT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
I'D LOVE TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'LL BE COMING BACK THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
SO I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAID PROMPTED ME OR KIND OF SPURRED SOMETHING.
SO IF, IF A PERSON KNOWS THAT A REPAIR WAS DONE, LET'S SAY THAT THEY WERE COMING THROUGH THREE OR THREE MONTHS AGO AND THEY REMEMBER THE WATERLINE BEING BROKEN AND THEY REMEMBER IT GETTING FIXED, CAN THEY CALL THE CITY AND SAY, HEY AND ASK IF THERE WAS AN ACTUAL PERMIT FILED WITH THE CITY TO FIND OUT? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY TO TELL IF, IF THEY JUST PATCHED IT OR IF THEY DID IT RIGHT? IS THAT, IS THAT THE WAY TO TELL? WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP AND UM, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD A LICENSE.
THEY HAVE THE, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT A LICENSED PLUMBER PERFORMED WORK THERE.
UM, THAT'S ONE, ONE OF THE AVENUES THAT WE CAN KIND OF, UM OKAY.
BECAUSE IF THEY DID IT RIGHT, THEY WOULD'VE CONTACTED THE CITY.
THEY WOULD'VE, AND YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
THEY WOULD'VE PROVIDED DOCUMENTA, THEY SHOULD HAVE DOCUMENTATION IN HAND.
AND I MENTIONED, UM, HURO PW, UM, IS THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS EMAIL.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I'LL SEND THAT GOES TO THE LEADERSHIP OF PUBLIC WORKS AND WE CAN KIND OF CHASE THAT, THAT ANSWER DOWN.
OH, SORRY TO JUMP PROTOCOL, BUT ONE SUGGESTION HERE, IF WE'RE GONNA ADD THINGS TO AN ORDINANCE, IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION, LET'S REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE THAT DOCUMENTATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE THAT WAY, THAT WAY THEY'RE ALREADY THAT WAY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PASS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND IF THEY DON'T THEN THAT'S A SIMPLE THING TO SAY, HEY, THEY NEVER GAVE ME THAT.
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT ( Part 2 of 2 )]
THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM COUNSEL.I NEED TO GO BACK TO ITEM SIX FOR JUST A SECOND AND READ IN TO THE RECORDS SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US IN OUR PACKET.
SO ITEM SIX, PUBLIC COMMENT, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WE ANGIE ROBINSON, WE RECEIVED A COMMENT FROM TRICIA BURKEY, TERRY AND MICHAEL DITO, LAURIE SCHULTZ AND PAM LAWRENCE.
I'M SORRY, THE LOOSE ONE DID YEAH, I DID THAT ONE EARLIER.
SO MOVING ON, WE'LL GO TO ITEM EIGHT ONE, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.
DOES EVERYBODY AGREE? NO ACTION.
[8.2. Consideration and possible action on review of Boards and Commissions Ordinance (Councilmember Dan Thornton)]
POSSIBLE ACTION ON REVIEW OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.UM, SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BOARDS THAT HAVE HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULTY MEETING BECAUSE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM, UM, TRY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE IN BOTH CASES WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY EAGER TO DO SOME WORK AND NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY.
SO ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, WE'VE ALREADY MADE A CHANGE A WHILE BACK TO ALLOW THE BOUNDARY TO BE EXPANDED TO THE HU DO I S D.
AND I THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE THERE.
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR BOARDS ARE CITY FOCUSED AND NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT THEN SOME OF THE BOARDS ARE MORE COMMUNITY FOCUSED AND HAVING A BROADER DEFINITION FITS THOSE.
AND I THINK THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMISSION IS ONE THAT'S A COMMUNITY FOCUS AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM PERSONALLY SAYING WE SHOULD EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES TO THE HOW DO I S D 'CAUSE IF WE ONLY DID THE E T J, WE'D BRING IN STAR RANCH, BUT WHEN WE DO THE I S D, THEN WE BRING IN SIENNA, WE EVEN BRING IN THE NEW APARTMENTS THAT ARE PFLUGERVILLE, UH, E T J, THAT ARE DOWN BY, UH, ACROSS FROM H E V.
SO IT GETS A LOT MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND WHO HAVE IDENTIFICATION AS BEING A MEMBER OF THE HU COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE THAT CHANGE TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARY TO HU I S D, UH, THE SECOND CHANGE.
AND THAT WAS FOR WHICH ONE? THAT, THAT IS FOR D N I.
LIBRARY BOARD ALREADY HAS THAT.
UH, THE SECOND CHANGE, UH, COULD BE APPLIED TO BOTH THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THE D N I AND I WANTED TO CONSIDER REDUCING THE, THE, UH, THE QUORUM TO THREE MEMBERS SO THAT AS LONG AS I'VE, AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, THEY'RE ABLE TO MEET, TO GO ALONG WITH THAT TO MAKE IT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TWO TO ONE VOTES WHERE HARDLY ANYBODY'S PARTICIPATING.
I THOUGHT WE COULD ALSO MAKE A MINIMUM OF THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FOR ANYTHING TO PASS SO THAT IF THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THEY
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ALL AGREE THAT THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.IF YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE SHOW UP, YOU COULD MEET AND SOMETHING COULD PASS THREE TO ONE OR THREE TO TWO.
SO THREE PEOPLE VOTING FOR IT IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
NOW OBVIOUSLY IF SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE SHOW UP, THEN YOU HAVE FOUR, FOUR VOTES AS A MINIMUM.
BUT TO ALLOW THREE PEOPLE TO, TO, TO DO WORK AND THREE PEOPLE TO, TO VOTE THINGS FORWARD AND MOVE FORWARD IF THEY CAN AGREE ON IT, I THINK ALLOWS THOSE BOARDS TO DO WORK WITHOUT TURNING IT INTO JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE SHOWING UP.
I THINK IT KIND OF WORKS THAT LINE WHERE IT, IT ALLOWS ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GET SOME WORK DONE WITHOUT JUST MAKING IT A ONE PERSON SHOW OR A TWO PERSON SHOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, SO THOSE WERE MY RECOMMENDATIONS AND WANTED TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE AND, AND, UH, WHAT WE COULD DO.
AND IF YOU AGREE WITH SOME OR ALL OF THOSE, THEN WE CAN ASK COUNSEL TO LEGAL COUNSEL TO BRING BACK A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT YOUR NEXT.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR PRO TIMM GORDON.
UM, THE ONLY RESERVATION I THINK I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ADDRESSING THE, THE, THE ROOT ISSUE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO APPLYING AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT.
AND SO, UM, ARE WE REDUCING IT? I MEAN, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO, TO TRY TO FIX THE ISSUE? UM, I GUESS I JUST, I WORRY ABOUT HAVING FEWER MEMBERS ON A BOARD OR A COMMISSION, UM, THAT WOULD LESSEN THE NUMBER OF VOICES THAT WOULD BE HEARD.
I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE ONLY RESERVATION THAT I'VE GOT ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GET THAT THEY CAN'T MEET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY, THEY CAN'T GET A QUORUM AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT.
BUT MAYBE WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF IT'S THE CULTURE OR CHANGE THE PERCEPTION OR WHATEVER IT IS IN THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY ENCOURAGE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO APPLY AND TO KIND OF WANT TO BE ON THESE BOARDS.
UM, I'M THINKING, AND I'M HOPING THAT WITH ALL THESE, UM, GRADUATES FROM HU CITIZENS UNIVERSITY THAT WE'VE GOT, I ONLY RECOGNIZED ONE NAME IN THIS GRADUATING CLASS.
UM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE I DIDN'T KNOW, RIGHT.
AND, AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD THINK IT'S, OH, IT'S KIND OF THE REGULARS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE SEE OFTEN AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND, AND THESE ARE BRAND NEW PEOPLE.
AND I'M HOPING AS WE, AS WE GET MORE AND MORE GRADUATES FROM THESE AS WE GO OUT TWICE A YEAR, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE HOPEFULLY PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THESE BOARDS OF WANTING TO SERVE IN, IN OTHER WAYS.
SO I GUESS THAT'S MY ONLY RESERVATION.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP.
UM, I, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH EXPANDING TO THE I SS D I MEAN BOUNDARIES.
WE CAN SAY CITY LIMITS AND SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO BECAUSE OF STATE LAW, BUT THEN OTHER THINGS, UM, MORE THAN JUST THE CITY, UH, RESIDENTS SHOP IN OUR STORES, RELY ON CITY GOVERNMENT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, USE OUR PARKS, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, AND, AND I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT POSSIBLY THREE PEOPLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WHAT THE D N I AND THE LIBRARY BOARD WOULD BE.
THEY'RE NOT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADVISORY.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE HAD HAPPEN IS WE'VE HAD NO ADVISORY OPINIONS OR POSITIONS COMING, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A QUORUM.
AND SO TO ME, I'D RATHER HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE GIVING US SOME ADVICE AND, AND SOME DIRECTION ON THINGS THAN SAYING, THAN TAKING NONE.
SO, BUT I THINK BY OPENING UP TO THE I S D BOUNDARIES, I THINK WE OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UM, MORE PEOPLE ENGAGED AND UM, WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK, UM, YEAH, I LIKE, I LIKE OPENING IT TO THE I S D BOUNDARY.
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS ADVISORY IN NATURE ONLY.
I WOULD BE WILLING FOR D AND I AND LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO DO THREE AFFIRMATIVE, BUT I WANT THE LANGUAGE TO BE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT ONCE YOU GET TO FIVE, THEN YOU'RE AT THAT THRESHOLD OF YOU NEED FOUR SIMPLE MAJORITY, UH, TO PASS FIVE, YOU KNOW, OR, OR I GUESS FIVE, YOU COULD DO TWO BE THREE TOO.
BUT ONCE YOU GET TO SIX AND SEVEN, WE HAVE TO BE, SO JUST HAVE THE LANGUAGE THAT IT'S ALWAYS THREE OR SIMPLE.
YEAH, MAJORITY, BUT AT LEAST THREE.
RIGHT? AND SO, UM, YEAH, I, I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT FOR, FOR THESE TWO BOARDS ONLY JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ADVISORY AND NATURE AND WE, AND THEN, AND I'M HOPING THAT BECAUSE OF CITIZENS UNIVERSITY, THIS IS A STOP GAP AND IT WON'T BE A, IT WON'T BE AN ONGOING THING.
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, AND IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD CUSTOMER THORNTON? YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, PETER.
I MEAN I, I THOUGHT THE I S D WAS KIND OF A SLAM DUNK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THE OTHER ONE WAS ONE THAT EVEN, I KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, I'D RATHER HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
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I'D RATHER US HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE ON THE BOARDS, BUT I SEE WHERE WE'VE HAD THREE AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MEET AND I WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO.WE ACTUALLY LOST A MEMBER OF D N I RECENTLY, THE LAST ONE WHO RESIGNED, SPECIFICALLY RESIGNED BECAUSE THEY WERE FRUSTRATED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO HOLD MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY REALLY WANTED TO SHOW UP AND DO THE WORK AND THEY COULDN'T.
AND MAYBE IF THE MOTION WAS TO HAVE IT BE FIVE MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT LIMITED TO LIKE, WE COULD SAY IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE SAYING THE THREE, YOU GOTTA HAVE AT LEAST THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AND IT'S A MINIMUM OF FIVE MEMBERS, BUT UP TO SEVEN AND WE'D KINDA LEAVE THAT.
SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE IN ORDER.
THAT'S NOT CHANGING MEMBERSHIP.
THE MEMBERSHIP IS STILL SEVEN.
HOLD ON BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH DISCUSSIONS.
WITH THE PROTOCOLS, THAT'S YEAH, WE CAN, YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS.
I THINK THE WAY TO CHANGE A CULTURE IS TO, IS TO DO SOMETHING.
AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING THAT, UH, HAVING SEVEN, HAVING SEVEN MEMBERS, UM, THAT'S BEEN THE NORM.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
I KNOW SITTING ON THE D N I COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, UM, THERE WAS TIMES WHERE WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE, BUT WE STILL COULDN'T MEET.
SO I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIVE SEATS, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
UM, AND ALSO OPENING IT TO THE I S D, UM, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT VOLUNTEERS ON THESE BOARDS TO KIND OF FORM A BENCH FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO GO OUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, UM, A PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, BUT WE ALSO HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT THE PARKS AND ADVISORY BOARD COULD REACH OUT TO, UM, FOR PARK CLEANUPS OR, OR FOR, UH, WALK-A-THONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, OPENING IT UP TO THE I S D HELPS IN CREATING, YOU KNOW, A BENCH PER SE TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF WE NEEDED VOLUNTEERS FOR ANY OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WE COULD TURN TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ON THE BOARDS, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A SPACE WE COULD TURN TO THOSE PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO BE A VOLUNTEER? UM, SO THAT WAY IF WE HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, EVENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD BE OUR FIRST, YOU KNOW, CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT HOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKS SERVE THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BE EXTENDED TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET, BUT JUST AGAIN, OPENING UP TO THE I S D, HAVING THOSE VOLUNTEERS, I THINK THAT'D BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE KIND OF EMPOWERING TO THE CITIZENS.
UM, BUT FOR NOW, IF IT JUST HAS TO BE THE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AS WELL AS LIBRARY BOARD, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
SO, THANKS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
ALRIGHT, THIS TIME WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SEE, I'M GONNA, I'LL BE HONEST, I'M GONNA MAKE MISTAKES BY DOING THIS, CHANGING THIS ORDER, BUT IT'S OKAY.
UM, I, UH, I LIKE THE, UH, D N I COMMISSION, UH, EXPANDING TO THE I S D BOUNDARIES.
UM, I DO SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS, UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM GORDON ABOUT THE, THE VOTES LESSENING THEM, JUST LIKE THE IMPACT, UM, THAT THAT CAN MAKE.
AND IS IT ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE, THE ROOT CAUSE OF US LACKING, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, UH, DUE TO, UH, COMMUNITY CULTURE, PEOPLE NOT HAVING TIME, PEOPLE NOT BEING WELL-INFORMED.
YOU NAME IT, IT COULD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A, UM, AN ISSUE.
RIGHT? BUT, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, FROM THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, 'CAUSE I SERVE, SERVE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON AND, UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM GORDON, WE ARE COMING UP COME JANUARY.
BUT HAS THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE REACHED OUT TO ANY OF THE LIKE GRADUATES OF THE HU HU CITIZENS UNIVERSITY? SO, SO THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD PUT FORWARD WITH THE, AND WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET IT MORE FORMALIZED WITH, UM, KATE, BUT THE, THE REQUEST WAS THAT WE GAVE A LIST TO THEM TO PROVIDE ALL THE OPENINGS AS PART OF THE CITIZENS UNIVERSITY MM-HMM.
UM, AND IF THAT WAS MISSED AND DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'VE SET AND SAID WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN.
UM, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND ONE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAPPENED, THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT OKAY.
THAT WAS SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY NO I GUESS, WHICH IS FINE.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS IMPROVE ON THINGS THAT HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY YEAH.
OUT REACHING OUT TO THEM, I GUESS MAYBE GETTING THAT LIST, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SHARING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY REACHING OUT.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW, IS KATE STILL HERE? SHE'S PROBABLY NOT UHUH, I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS.
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MR. UM, IS THERE LIKE AN EXIT SURVEY AT ALL FOR THE HU CITIZENS UNIVERSITY? LIKE SAYING LIKE, WE LOVE KATE, SHE'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT.BUT, UH, BUT ALSO JUST ASKING DO YOU WANNA SERVE, LIKE WHAT'S YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, UM, OR GET MORE INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY ON A SCALE OF ONE TO 10? LIKE ONE, NO, LIKE NOT INTO IT OR LIKE, HEY, I'M INTERESTED NEED MORE INFORMATION OR JUST, OR, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE THOSE PEOPLE THAT JUST WANNA LEARN ABOUT HOW A CITY OPERATES, LIKE WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HU CITIZEN UNIVERSITY IS FOR, RIGHT? IS UH, FOR THEM THEIR BETTER UNDER UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OPERATIONS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE THE, ARE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT MAY ONE PERSON BEING I WANNA SERVE AND THE OTHER PERSON JUST LIKE, WOW, THIS IS GREAT.
I CAN SEE THE CITY WORKING BEHIND, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO IS THERE LIKE A SURVEY THAT THEY RECEIVE THAT Y'ALL KINDA GET FEEDBACK ON ABOUT THAT? YEAH, WELL I MEAN WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD A, A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, GEARED TOWARD THEIR DESIRE TO GET INVOLVED FURTHER AND MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST KINDA GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THEIR POSITIONS.
AND IT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T WANNA SERVE IS TOTALLY FINE IF YOU'RE IDAHO CITIZENS UNIVERSITY.
AND, AND ON THAT NOTE, THE, THE LIST OF VACANCIES ARE BEING SHARED AND THEY'RE ALSO BEING LISTED MONTHLY AT THE, AT THE MEETINGS TOO.
SO I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THOUGH, WHAT I'D BE WILLING TO COMMIT TO, AND MAYBE THAT WHEN YOU'RE BOARD Y'ALL, HOW Y'ALL DO IT IN JANUARY MM-HMM.
SO LIKE MAYBE THE LAST TUESDAY WE SHOW UP AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE LIST.
IF Y'ALL WANNA MEET WITH US AFTERWARDS TO GET INFORMATION, THEN WE CAN GET YOU SET UP FOR AN APPOINTMENT TO INTERVIEW.
AND WE JUST KIND OF GET THAT FIRE GOING RIGHT THERE AS THE LAST MEETING.
AND SO IF WE JUST CHANGE IT TO BE THAT AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THEN WE'RE JUST IMPROVING THE CITIZENS UNIVERSITY.
SO LET ME INTERRUPT THIS, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO VEER OFF.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS DO WE WANNA CHANGE ORDINANCE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CITIZENS UNIVERSITY OR HOW YOU GUYS ARE MEETING? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT DEAL.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT I'VE MISSED THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ORDINANCES OR OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A OH, THOUGHT HE DOES.
I JUST, UH, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAID ABOUT THE FIVE TO SEVEN YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER ALTERNATES HAVE A FIVE MEMBER BOARD, TWO ALTERNATES THAT CAN PARTICIPATE AND VOTE WHEN ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ISN'T THERE.
SO THEN YOU'D ALWAYS MAINTAIN YOUR FIVE.
SO WE'VE USED THE ALTERNATES IN OTHER, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
SO AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST LEGAL COUNSEL TO BRING BACK ORDINANCE CHANGES TO, TO CHANGE THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS FOR THE D AND I COMMISSION, UH, FROM THE CITY LIMITS TO THE HU DO I S D BOUNDARIES AND TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A QUORUM FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE D N I COMMISSION TO BE THREE MEMBERS AND TO REQUIRE THAT, UM, TO HAVE A ADD A VOTE REQUIREMENT OF A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS PRESENT, BUT NO LESS THAN THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS ANY ITEMS. IS THAT DETAILED ENOUGH? MM-HMM.
SO THE MOTION IS TO CHANGE THE D N I FROM CITY TO I S D, MAKE THE QUORUM B THREE MEMBERS FOR BOTH D N I AND LIBRARY D N I AND LIBRARY AND THAT THE VOTE REQUIRED.
HOW DID YOU WORD THAT? IF IT'S LESS, A MAJORITY, A MAJORITY OF OF MEMBERS PRESENT, BUT NO LESS THAN THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
MAJORITY OF PRESENT NO LESS, THEN THREE.
MAY I MAKE A REQUEST OF, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD BREAK IT BETWEEN THE TWO HALVES? 'CAUSE I KNOW THE I S D BOUNDARY IS GONNA PASS.
I THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ALTERNATES FIVE TWO IN ADDRESSING OTHER STUFF, BUT I DON'T WANNA VOTE NO, JUST BECAUSE OF YOU CAN'T DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE THE OVERALL.
HE CAN DO, HE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TO AMEND IT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO SPLIT THE VOTE.
AND THEN YOU TAKE THE TWO PIECES AND YOU, YOU TAKE THEM SEPARATELY.
IF, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND.
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I DON'T KNOW.AND DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON MOTION TO SPLIT THE VOTE IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION STUDY? UM, NO.
ANY OBJECTIONS? HEARING NO OBJECTIONS? WE'LL, ALRIGHT, SPLIT THE VOTE.
SO HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, THEN WE'LL START OFF WITH, THE FIRST PART OF IT WILL BE A VOTE ON TO CHANGE THE D N I MEMBERSHIP FROM THE CITY LIMITS TO THE I S D LIMITS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT MOTION, SIR? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER LAR AYE.
THE NEXT VOTE IS TO CHANGE THE QUORUM TO THREE MEMBERS FOR THE LIBRARY AND D N I AND TO ADJUST THE VOTE REQUIREMENT TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT, BUT AT NO TIME, LESS THAN THREE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
SO IS THE MEMBERSHIP STILL SEVEN FOR BOTH? MM-HMM.
SO DOTTIE, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO STILL LEAVE THE, THE MEMBERSHIP IS SEVEN BUT HAVE CHANGE THE QUORUM TO LESS THAN 50%? LIKE I, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY A QUORUM IS ONLY THREE MEMBERS OF SEVEN, NOT THREE OF FIVE.
IS THAT, IS THAT, CAN WE DO THAT? IS THAT, OR DO WE NEED TO DO WHAT YOU SUGGESTED CHANGE THE ACTUAL MEMBERSHIP TO FIVE VOTING MEMBERS OR FIVE MEMBERS WITH TWO ALTERNATES? MY RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE QUORUM IS ALWAYS DEFINED AS A MAJORITY OF, UM, BUT YOU COULD SAY IT, IT WOULD BE HARD TO DEFINE IT THAT WAY.
IT'S EASIER TO SAY THREE OF FIVE AND THEN TWO ALTERNATES.
SO I BASED THAT ON THE FACT THAT THE CHARTER SAYS THAT A QUORUM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IS FIVE.
SO I MEAN, IT SEEMED LIKE WE COULD ARBITRARILY SET A NUMBER.
I KNOW THAT IT'S STILL MORE THAN HALF, BUT IT'S STILL AN ARBITRARY NUMBER BECAUSE IT WAS MORE THAN HALF.
THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T GO LESS THAN HALF, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT YOU CAN'T GO LESS THAN HALF.
IT'S NOT REALLY MEETS THE DEFINITION OF A QUORUM.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS ONE OF MY OTHER CONCERNS.
JUST THE DEFINITION OF QUORUM.
IT WOULD 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF IS, SO I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WAY AND SEE WHAT EVERYTHING'S, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE MEMBERSHIP OF, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MM-HMM.
SO I THINK YOU CAN, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MM-HMM.
SO THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT, ONCE YOU HIT FIVE, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY FULL, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE TWO MORE.
AND THAT'S, AND YOU STILL HAVE THE THREE VOTES ON THE LIBRARY AND D N I OR EVERYTHING? WE'RE BOTH LIBRARY AND D N I.
AND, AND THREE MEMBERS IS STILL A QUORUM BECAUSE IT'S MAJORITY.
SO MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER CLARK.
CHANGING THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS TO FIVE WITH TWO ALTERNATES FOR THE LIBRARY.
AND D N I SOUND RIGHT? MM-HMM.
RIGHT? AND THEN YOU, BUT YOU CAN STILL DO THE WORK WITH THREE AND THE ALTERNATES PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY JUST DON'T VOTE UNLESS SOMEBODY'S ABSENT, THEN THEY MOVED IT.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE MOVES INTO THE SLOT.
ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO I GUESS I, I DON'T LIKE REDUCING IT TO FIVE.
I DON'T LIKE ONLY HAVING FIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BOTH BOARDS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN FULL AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PAST AND IT'S GONNA BE HARD.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WANNA SIGN UP TO BE AN ALTERNATE WHO, WHO CAN'T ACTUALLY VOTE ON ANYTHING.
UM, IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE THE MEMBERSHIP BE FLEXIBLE WHERE IT'S AT LEAST FIVE BUT IT CAN GROW, IT CAN BE UP TO SEVEN FULL MEMBERS AND THEN THE QUORUM IS BASED ON HOWEVER MANY FULL MEMBERS YOU HAVE AT THE TIME.
CAN YOU DO THAT? I'D RATHER JUST KEEP IT AT FIVE.
'CAUSE UH, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET SIX AND THEN SO WHAT, WHAT'S A QUORUM ON SIX AND IT'S FOUR AND THEN I THINK WE'D SET IT AT FIVE AND THEN IF WE GET TO AN ISSUE AND WE HAVE A FULL BOARD AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE, UH, THIS ISN'T FAIR, THEN I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND CHANGE IT.
JUST KEEPING IT NICE AND CLEAN.
JUST REDUCE IT FROM SEVEN TO FIVE AND JUST SEE, AND IF WE HAVE AN OVERWHELMING, LIKE INTEREST IN THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS UP IT RIGHT WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, HEY, I, I REALLY WANNA SERVE.
AND WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SEVEN ONCE THEY GET UP AND RUNNING AND ROCKING, BECAUSE I GUESS HERE'S, OR KEEP THE SEVEN AND HAVE TWO ALTERNATES.
SO THAT THE, WELL, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE INITIAL PROBLEM OF NOT HAVING
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ENOUGH.SO, 'CAUSE HERE'S, HERE'S MY, HERE'S KINDA MY CONCERN WITH DOING IT.
THE, THE FIRST WAY, SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE, UH, YOU'VE GOT SEVEN MEMBERS, BUT YOUR QUORUM IS THREE.
THREE PEOPLE VOTE ONE WAY AND ALL SEVEN MEMBERS SHOW UP AND FOUR VOTE THE OTHER WAY.
BUT IT'S A MAJORITY OR THE VOTES HAVE TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT, BUT AT LEAST THREE VOTES.
BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF THREE.
BUT IT'S A MAJORITY OF WHO'S PRESENT.
SO FIVE PEOPLE FOR THE VOTING ISSUE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IF FIVE PEOPLE SHOW UP, UNANIMOUS MAYBE IS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, YOU STILL HAVE THREE VOTES.
IF SEVEN SHOW UP, THEN YOU GO TO FOUR, RIGHT? SIX PEOPLE SHOW UP.
SIX PEOPLE SHOW UP, YOU GO FOUR TO HAVE THREE.
RIGHT? IF THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE, FOUR PEOPLE.
YOU'RE AT THREE, SIX GOES TO FOUR.
THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO IT THAT WAY.
I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT
'CAUSE THEN IF YOU HAVE ALL SEVEN SHOW UP AND THEN IT, THEN IT BUMPS TO FOUR, YOU GOTTA HAVE FOUR BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON HOW MANY'S PRESENT.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW MY, MY AMENDMENT.
WELL THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU HAVE A QUORUM TO, TO FIND IS THREE WHEN YOU HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE BOARD AND SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN'T WELL HERE'S WHAT I SUGGEST.
YOU'RE RESCINDING, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WHY DON'T WE VOTE TO, OR YOU'RE JUST VOTING TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK.
SHE MAY BRING IT BACK AND SAY YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
WE'RE DEBATING ON WHAT'S LEGAL OR NOT BEFORE WE'VE EVEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO.
ALRIGHT, SO THE ITEM THAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS THAT THE DECORUM FOR THE LIBRARY AND D N I BECOME THREE MEMBERS AND THERE'S THE VOTE REQUIRES A MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT BUT NOT LESS THAN THREE IN THE, I GUESS IT'D BE AN AFFIRMATIVE OR UH, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD FOR OPPOSITE OF AFFIRMATIVE? NEGATIVE.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT FOR YOU GUYS? MM-HMM.
AND THAT IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER.
THAT WAS THE MOTION TO SPLIT THE VOTE.
THIS GOES BACK TO THORNTON AND THOMPSON.
ANGELA, YOU GOT ALL THIS
BECAUSE I'M THINKING I'M CONFUSING IT FOR MYSELF HERE.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-267 approving an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement with Williamson County for Participation and Access to Williamson County's Dispatch Services and Public Safety Software Systems and Related Support Services (Chief Jeffrey Yarbrough)]
ITEM NINE ONE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2023 DASH 26 7 APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR PARTICIPATION IN ACCESS TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY'S DISPATCH SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY SOFTWARE SYSTEMS. AND RELATED SUPPORT SERVICES.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I'M NATE SPRAGENS, I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, UH, THE NEW CHANGE IS WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS BILLING ALL ENTITIES THAT THEY DISPATCH AND PROVIDE IT SERVICES FOR.
WE HAVE GONE AT A VERY LONG TIME WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT.
AND NOW WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS LOOKING TO, UM, START BILLING ALL THE OUTSIDE ENTITIES, INCLUDING WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND SOME OF THEIR ESDS.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE FEE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THE PERCENTAGE, 'CAUSE IT IS A STEPPED, UH, STEPPED AGREEMENT FOR THE INTERLOCAL.
AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR FOR TIM GORDON.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
I SAW THAT THE STEP IS 33%, 66% THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AND THEN, THEN WE'RE PAYING FULL PRICE BY YEAR THREE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE STEP IS.
THE ESTIMATES ARE ROUGHLY 350,000 THIS YEAR THAT WE BUDGETED FOR.
700 THE NEXT, AND THEN I THINK IT'S JUST, JUST UNDER 1.2 ON THE, ON 25, 5 ON THE FINAL.
AND IF I REMEMBER READING IT RIGHT, WE GET THE FIRST 2,500 CALLS FREE AND THEN WE'RE PAYING ANYTHING ABOVE THAT.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? HOW MANY, HOW MANY CALLS ARE WE, ARE WE SENDING THEIR WAY NOW? DO WE KNOW? IT WOULD BE JUST UNDER A MONTH'S WORTH OF CALLS FOR US.
THAT'D BE ABOUT ONE MONTH'S WORTH OF CALLS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A LOT.
WE'RE AVERAGING, I WOULD SAY 3,100 CALLS A MONTH.
IT'S ABOUT AVERAGE IF YOU TAKE IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
I'M SORRY, NOT NOT ACTUAL PHONE CALLS.
WHETHER WE INITIATE THEM OR WHETHER SOMEBODY WHO DIALS 9 1 1 INITIATES 'EM, IT'S ROUGH.
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE HUNDRED OR 3,300 A MONTH.
SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS.
I GET THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY LIKES TO LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY, SO I'M GONNA SAY IT.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY CHARGE ON A PER CAD EVENT.
I GET THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THOSE WHO USE THE SERVICES MORE.
BUT IF I REMEMBER FROM MY RIDE ALONG
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DAYS, IF YOU ALL DRIVE THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN PUNCH THAT IN AS A CAD EVENT.AND THAT'S HOW YOU GUYS ARE LOGGING THAT YOU JUST DROVE THROUGH.
DID A, YOU JUST DROVE THROUGH ALL THIS, I FORGET WHAT YOU CALL IT.
THAT'S A CAD EVENT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND SO IT WOULD BE A SELF-INITIATED CAD EVENT? YES.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO WHERE I'M GOING, WHAT I SEE LONG TERM, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH FOR US, BUT BIGGER CITIES, IS THEY'RE GONNA STOP LOGGING THOSE BECAUSE IT JUST COSTS MONEY WHEN IN REALITY IT'S NOT REALLY USING SERVICE MORE OF THEIRS, BUT IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THE OTHER OTHER THING I'D BRING UP TO THE COUNTY IS I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THIS BECAUSE I PAY COUNTY TAXES.
AND SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THE COUNTY MAKES A CHANGE AND SAYS, WELL NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE THIS SERVICE ANYMORE.
NOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
WELL, I'M NOT GETTING MORE FROM MY COUNTY TAXES.
I'M ACTUALLY GETTING LESS FROM MY COUNTY TAXES BECAUSE NOW THE CITY IS NOW TAKING THAT ON.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT POSITION FOR A, A ACCOUNT OF OUR SIZE.
IF WE WERE ROUND ROCK OR CEDAR PARK OR BIGGER CITIES, WE JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY WE'LL DO OUR OWN THING.
AND THEN FOR THE SMALLER CITIES, UM, WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE IT.
BUT, UM, WE JUST HAD TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.
THE COUNTY'S NOT GONNA COME BACK AND GIVE US A REFUND, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO PAY IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE COST OF WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR NEW POLICE STATION AS PART OF OUR STUDY THAT WE GO LOOK AND SEE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THIS OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS WHEN WE GO TO BUILD THE OTHER, DO WE THEN BRING IT IN-HOUSE AT THAT POINT? SO I'M HOPING THAT'LL BE PART OF THE SCOPE OF THAT OTHER THING.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
IT LOOKS LIKE COSTMAN THORNTON.
IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO DO IT YOURSELF TOO THOUGH.
IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO TAKE IT IN-HOUSE, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT ACTUALLY MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE TO DO THAT.
COUNCIL THOMPSON, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R DASH 2023 DASH 22 6 7.
BY THE PROTOCOLS, EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
I THOUGHT WE HAD SAID THAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S POTENTIAL CHANGES.
THE EXISTING PROTOCOLS ARE THAT WE, EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO SPEAK.
WELL I'M SPEAKING AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LEFT ON THE ITEM TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE I ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBER? NO.
WE'RE NOT ACCORDING TO THE PROTOCOLS.
WE'RE WE, EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK BEFORE MOTION'S MADE.
THAT'S THE CURRENT PROTOCOLS FOR FOLLOWING.
AND SO I'M NOT GONNA ENTERTAIN YOUR MOTION BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND COUNCILOR WILCOTT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR ANY KIND OF MOTIONS AND THEN YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO MAKE A MOTION AT THAT POINT.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL KOLAR, UM, I BELIEVE THIS, UH, INTER INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT, UH, PROVIDING THESE SERVICES.
I THINK THIS IS GREAT WITH HOW THE COMMUNITY WORKS TOGETHER.
THE ENTITIES, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON SOMETHING THAT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, DOING IT YOURSELF, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAID, IF WE TAKE THIS ON OURSELVES, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, NOT COST EFFECTIVE.
IT'S GONNA BE, UM, HIGHLY EXPENSIVE.
UH, EVEN IF WE DO THIS STUDY, UM, THIS IS I THINK WHAT THE CI THE CITY AND EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE KIND OF HAVE TO LIKE SPREAD OUR WINGS AND WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS, WHETHER IT BE TAYLOR OR PFLUGERVILLE OR ROUND ROCK OR GEORGETOWN, UH, EVEN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? WE'RE IN EAST WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND THIS IS JUST, UM, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES OR AN AGREEMENT, RIGHT, THAT IS, IS BEING DONE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THIS CITY THAT MAKES, YOU KNOW, THINGS FLOW A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
COMMUNICATION DISPATCH, YOU NAME WHATEVER GOES ON, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I'M NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WORK IN THIS, THIS LINE OF, OF WORK RIGHT HERE, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREATER AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE COUNTY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, YOU KNOW, BENEFITING THE RESIDENTS AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY.
UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
WILCOTT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UH, THERE IS ONE THING I DO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I'VE NOTICED THAT IS IN THE INTERLOCAL AND AS DI DESIGNATING THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE STAFF PERSONS, UM, TO SERVE THE POINT OF CONTACT, UM, UNTIL WE HAVE A PD IT SPECIALIST RECOMMEND.
UM, I CURRENTLY SIT ON THE REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM BOARD AND ON THE DISPATCH STEERING COMMITTEE THAT I WOULD BE THE PRIMARY ON THAT, UM, UNTIL WE HIRE ONE WITH ASSISTANT CHIEF JONES SERVING AS THE ALTERNATE.
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AND I WANNA BRING THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S NAMED IN HERE AS DESIGNATED BY, SO WHEN YOU SIGN THIS, THAT WILL BE PART OF IT.UM, SO I THROW MYSELF OUT THERE AS THE DESIGNATED PRIMARY WITH THE AC JONES ASSISTANT CHIEF JONES AS THE BACKUP UNTIL WE HIRE A PD IT SPECIALIST.
AND THEN I WOULD BACK TO ALTERNATE AND HE COULD GO DO CHIEFLY THINGS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
ALRIGHT, SO OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, R DASH 2023 DASH 26 7 IS PRESENTED WITH THE TWO NAMED CITY EMPLOYEES AS DEFINED.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK, SECOND BY MAYOR PROAM GORDON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.
ALRIGHT, NEXT STEP BRINGS IS ITEM TEN ONE
[10.1. Consideration and possible action relating to the Ed Schmidt Improvements report recommendations (CIP T10) (Matt Rector)]
CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO THE ED SCHMIDT IMPROVEMENTS REPORT.GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
I GUESS IT WAS, UH, WE BROUGHT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE REPORT THAT WE GOT.
JUST A QUICK REFRESHER, I WON'T GO IN DEPTH ON IT.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF SHAKE THE COBWEBS OFF, THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, SO THERE WERE THREE, I THINK, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS RECOMMENDED IN THE REPORT.
THE ED SCHMIDT AT LIMMER, THE ED SCHMIDT AT EMORY FARMS SLASH LIVE OAK, AND THEN THE ED SCHMIDT AT THE LOWE'S INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THEN THEY, THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE SAFETY, UH, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, THE MEDIAN THERE NEAR LOWE'S AND THEN, UH, SIDEWALKS AS WELL FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE WALKING FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL UP TO ALL THE RESTAURANTS.
AND LAST TIME WHEN I BROUGHT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON REQUESTED THAT, UM, THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE GO BACK AND TALK TO EMERGENCY SERVICES.
SO I REACHED OUT TO PD, I REACHED OUT TO E S D TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK.
UM, PD HAS RECOMMENDED THAT IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT, THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT LOWERING SPEED LIMITS IN THE AREA.
UM, I, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
E S D DID NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY ASKED TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP AS WE DECIDE WHAT PROJECTS WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY START WORKING ON.
AND AS THOSE PROJECTS EVOLVE, THEY WANTED TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION.
I HAVE NOTHING FOR THIS COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK.
RIGHT? Y'ALL READY? UM, I GUESS FOR THIS, THIS IS T 10 ON THE C I P LIST, WHAT IS THE, I GUESS, TIMELINE? WHERE IS IT PROJECTING IT OUT AS? OR WAS IT THE 2023? SO WE KIND OF BEHIND THIS WAS, THIS WAS T 10 FROM 2023.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE AN ED SCHMIDT PROJECT ON THE 2024 C I P, UH, THAT ONE, THE SCOPE IS T B D UNTIL WE KIND OF GET GUIDANCE FROM, FROM YOU GUYS ON WHAT, OF ALL THESE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WANT US TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT TRYING TO DO.
I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE.
I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO DO EVERYTHING.
AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE HOPES THAT I HAD OF, OF BRINGING THE REPORT FORWARD INITIALLY, WAS TO GET GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO PRIORITIZE WHEN I, WHEN I TALKED TO THE CONSULTANT THAT'S GONNA START DOING THE DESIGN FOR WHICHEVER PIECE OF THIS WE, WE SAY GOES FIRST.
UM, I GUESS MY ISSUE WITH THE REPORT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT REPORT.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IN THERE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET, GET STARTED ON.
MY CONCERN WITH THE REPORT IS THAT IT CLEARLY STATED IN, I GUESS EACH KIND OF SECTION IS LIKE, UH, THERE WERE NO IMPROVEMENTS MODELED, OR THEY DIDN'T SUGGEST ANYTHING AT THE INTERSECTION OF EDGE SCHMIDT AND 79 BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE CITY'S UH, JURISDICTIONS, IT'S, IT'S, UM, TX DOTS.
SO TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THAT DATA WAS NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE CITY TO PERFECT THAT INTERSECTION.
IT'S, UM, IT'S GONNA BE ON TXDOT TO DO THAT.
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MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, LIKE I GUESS WITH THE, WITH THE SIDEWALKS.I, I DO WANT SIDEWALKS FOR THE KIDS.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF WE PUT THOSE IN, IN THE FUTURE, TEXDOT MAY COME AND REDESIGN THAT WHOLE AREA AND THAT WOULD BE JUST MONEY KIND OF WASHED.
UM, DO WE KNOW IF THAT INTERSECTION IS ON TDOT'S RADAR AT ALL? DOES IT JUSTIFY, I GUESS, BEING, UM, AN INTERSECTION TO IMPROVE? UM, SO ACROSS THE STATE, LEMME LET ME SAY, I THINK IT'S ON THEIR RADAR IN THE FACT THAT THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF 79 ALL THE WAY OUT TO TAYLOR HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE CAMPO STUDIES THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO LOOK AT WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT OF THAT REPORT.
SO THEN TECH STOCK CAN PRIORITIZE THOSE.
SO IN THAT ASPECT, YES, I THINK IT'S ON THEIR, ON THEIR RADAR.
AT THIS POINT, AND I, I HAVEN'T GOT THIS VERBATIM FROM THE, THE AREA ENGINEER, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO 79 UNTIL THEY GET THAT CAMPO REPORT COMPLETE.
DO YOU KNOW THE TIMELINE OF THAT WHEN THAT REPORT'S SUPPOSED TO? I DON'T.
I JUST, UH, CITY MANAGER HAD ASKED ME TO REACH OUT TO CAMPO.
I REACHED OUT TO THEM ON YESTERDAY.
WAS IT? YEAH, TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
AND SO I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM, I'VE ASKED FOR A MEETING SO THAT I CAN START GETTING UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING AND, AND GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE IT, IT WASN'T IN HERE AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES.
AND ONE THAT'S MASSIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE THAT, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, HAS CONTROL OF THE, THAT INTERSECTION.
THAT'S A HUGE INTERSECTION IN OUR, IN OUR TOWN.
SO IT'S COMPLICATED AS ANN SAYS.
UM, SO OF COURSE WE HAVE THE CHALLENGE STILL ON THE INTERSECTION.
SO WE HAVE THE, UM, THE REAL OH, OKAY.
SO I, I BELIEVE IN JANUARY THEY'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE TIMING OF THE, UH, LIKE CHANGE THE TIMING 'CAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE STUDY, IF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR TALK ME, TALK ME THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS.
BUT, UM, SO THEY WILL BE CHANGING LIKE THE TIMING OF THINGS.
SO SOME OF THIS DATA MAY NOT BE ACCURATE ONCE THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IT CAN BE THROWN, THROWN OFF A LITTLE BIT? WELL, SO THIS STUDY SPECIFICALLY LOOKS MOSTLY AT TRAFFIC FLOW AS FAR AS VOLUME.
SO ONCE WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST, JUST FOR CONVERSATION, LET'S SAY THAT WE WERE GONNA DO THE, THIS SIGNAL AT, AT THE EDGE SCHMIDT AND LOWS INTERSECTION 'CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE CLOSEST TO 79 AND, AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
THEN WHEN WE GO ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD, OUR ENGINEER WOULD WORK WITH THE T TEAM ON SIGNAL TIMING TO LOOK AT HOW THAT WORKS TOGETHER IN TANDEM.
IF, IF WE ENDED UP DOING A SIGNAL, THE CITY MANAGER LAST TIME ASKED IF WE COULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT ROUNDABOUTS AND OTHER THINGS.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE OUR CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT JUST ASSUMING FOR THE POINT OF CONVERSATION THAT THEY DID A SIGNAL, WE WOULD HAVE THEM LOOK AT TRAFFIC TIMING.
WHICH WASN'T NECESSARILY PART OF THE SCOPE FOR THIS STUDY.
THEY WERE LOOKING MOSTLY AT VOLUME.
SO I GUESS FOR ME, THE PRIORITIES, UM, ARE TO ADDRESS LIMBER LOOP AND EDGE SCHMIDT INTERSECTION FIRST.
IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COSTLY OF THE FEW SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I'M KIND OF LIKE, IT MAY IT, IT, I JUST KIND OF FLOW SOUTH JUST BECAUSE I, ME PERSONALLY, I JUST WANNA STAY FROM THE WHOLE STAY AWAY FROM 79 EDGE SCHMIDT AREA.
EVEN IF THAT DOES MEAN NO SIDEWALKS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S COMPLICATED.
HOW ARE WE GONNA REDO SIDEWALKS? IT'S JUST, SO THAT'S KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF, END OF MY, UH, LIST.
SO DEFINITELY THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, LIMBER LOOP AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
THEN MOVING DOWN LIVE OAK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A LIGHT THERE AT LIVE OAK AND ED SCHMIDT.
UM, I GUESS IN THE STUDY IT SAID LIKE WITHIN 12 MONTHS THAT LIVE OAK WOULD BE COMPLETED OUT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S STILL THE CASE.
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, WHOEVER'S BUILDING THAT ROAD AS TO TIMELINE.
BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LIGHT THERE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WITH I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T WANNA SEE A LIGHT AT THE LOW AT LOWE'S AND EDGE SCHMIDT, UH, JUST BECAUSE, JUST PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE LIVE OAK
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LIGHT AND ALSO MAYBE LIVE OAK BEING OPEN.WE'LL TAKE OFF, TAKE, UM, SOME TRAFFIC OFF OF THE LOW, LIKE THAT CUTTING ROAD THAT KIND OF CUTS ACROSS HOME DEPOT THERE.
UH, DEFINITELY I LIKED THE, THIS MIGHT BE A CHEAP THING TO DO, BUT I LIKE THE, UM, FIXING OR GETTING RID OF THOSE YELLOW DELINEATORS.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE EVEN NEED, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NEED, I MEAN, PROBABLY, SO JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS.
SO IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO WORK ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, UH, TO HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, UPGRADED OR FIXED AND PAINT THE AREA TO WHERE IT'S, I GUESS NICER.
I, I SUPPOSE, UM, AND I GUESS THE REASON WHY I AM, UH, ADVOCATING FOR THE LIGHT AT LIVE OAK AS OPPOSED TO THAT LOW'S INTERSECTION THAT CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS IS BECAUSE, UH, SCHMIDT'S CREEK IS GONNA BE ON THE EAST SIDE, RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
MOST OF IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH A LITTLE BIT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF RESIDENTS RIGHT THERE.
AND SO IT JUST, IT MAKES SENSE FOR ME.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT KOHLER SAID EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO SAY.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION OR DO YOU NEED TO CALL? YES, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR OPEN FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
SO I'LL MAKE, UH, MAYOR MAKE A MOTION TO PROVIDE CITY STAFF WITH DIRECTION TO PRIORITIZE A, UH, SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS AT LIMMER LOOP AND EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD IS THE FIRST PRIORITY AND SECOND PRIORITY TO FINISH OUT THE SIDEWALKS BETWEEN HIGHWAY 79 AND HURO DISCOVERY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP AND IT'S LIKE AT LEAST HALF OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE THERE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? I KNOW IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE, RIGHT THERE.
YOU SAID SIGNAL AT LIMB EDGE SCHMIDT SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO LIKE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE WIDENING WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS.
WAS THAT NUMBER THE, THE ADDING THE 220 FOOT EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE, THE NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE.
AND THEN, 'CAUSE THOSE WERE THE SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENT WAS THE LIGHT.
SO YOU WERE SAYING MOVE THE LONG TERM UP.
IS THAT, WAS THE WELL, THERE'S ALREADY A LIGHT THERE.
SO WHAT DO YOU, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THERE'S TWO SETS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE'S A SHORT TERM WHICH IS ADDING THE LANES AND THERE'S A LONG TERM WITH THE SIGNAL.
ARE YOU WANTING TO MOVE THE SIGNAL UP AS PRIORITY OR YOU JUST WANNA DO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS? WELL, I GUESS I, I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT THERE WAS A SHORT TERM AND A LONG TERM.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM? AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.
SO SHORT TERM GETS US WHAT ADDITIONAL LANES TURN RIGHT, RIGHT TURN LANE, BUT NOT AS MANY.
TURN EAST, JUST A FEW EAST AND THEN RIGHT TURN LANES, BUT NOT THE, THE FULL BLOWN WIDENING.
RIGHT? YEAH, I, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
DOING THE SHORT TERM BUMP THAT UP FIRST AND THEN THE SIDEWALKS.
SO INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALKS ALONG 79 UP TO METHODIST.
AND COULD I ADD ONE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? HOLD ON.
CAN'T ADD AMENDMENT 'CAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN SECONDED.
IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT THAT YOU WERE GONNA PUT IN IT? NO, JUST THOSE TWO.
JUST THOSE TWO NOW YOU WANNA SECOND IT? YES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILOR MCC CLARK.
COULD I ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? IT CAN'T CHANGE.
I JUST WANNA ADD PART OF, CAN YOU ADD TO PERFORM THE SPEED STUDY AS WELL AS PDS REQUEST? OH, I SEE.
UH, SO NUMBER THREE, PERFORM SPEED STUDY.
SO THE MOTION IS TO DO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT LAER EDGE.
SCHMIDT SIDEWALKS ALONG 79 UP TO DISCOVERED ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT FROM 79 ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT FROM 79 UP TO THE CHURCH.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU SAID TO CONTINUE THE SIDEWALKS, SO JUST RIGHT THERE FROM, IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAP ON THE YEAH, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING ON THE WEST SIDE.
THERE'S OKAY, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BLOCK OF, UM, CEMENT THERE WHERE THAT YOU PUSH THE BUTTON TO CROSS AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING.
AND THEN IT PICKS UP KIND OF HALFWAY TO THAT DRIVE.
FIRST DRIVE TO WALGREENS AND THEN THERE'S A PIECE OF
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SIDEWALK AND THEN IT ENDS, UM, AT THE HU WILCO ANNEX, THERE'S LIKE A BIG GAP AND THEN THERE'S MORE SIDEWALK AND THEN THERE'S GAPS.SO I'M REALLY JUST SAYING, KIND OF FILL IN THOSE GAPS, CONNECT EVERYTHING.
SO THAT EVERYTHING'S CONNECTED.
AND THEN YOU SAID UP TO HU DISCOVERY AS FAR NORTH AS HU DISCOVERY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
BUT ON THE WEST SIDE? YEAH, ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO I'D SAY I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES TO FINISH OFF SIDEWALKS AT BOTH SIDES.
'CAUSE BOTH SIDES HAVE PARTIAL SIDEWALKS HERE AND THERE.
SO MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE HOTELS GOING IN RIGHT THERE, IS THE HOTEL GOING TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA? AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS GO, I WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR SIDE PLAN, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
SO DO I NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT IF, IF, IF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE, ON THE HOOK FOR PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK, WE SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING IT IN.
WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE WE WILL, WHEN WE GET THE CONSULTANT GOING, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ALL OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST PLANS FROM ME AND ASHLEY.
SO THAT THEY AREN'T, WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LAR, I FORGOT WHAT THE SECOND THING IS.
[10.2. Discussion and possible action regarding Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I) training options (Irene Talioaga)]
NEXT, MATT.NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10, TWO, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.
AND WE HAVE TERRANCE OWENS, UH, TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE RECORD.
SO THIS EVENING I'LL PRESENT FOUR, UH, DIFFERENT TRAINING OPTIONS FOR THE D E I.
UH, IF YOU CAN, IT'S IN FRONT OF ME.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAIN UP.
UH, DIVERSITY AND THE TRAINING OUTLINED, UM, DEFINES THE FIRST ONE IS, WHAT IS DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION? BRIDGING COMMUNICATION DIFFERENCES, EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
LEADING A SUCCESSFUL MULTICULTURAL TEAM CONDUCTING DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS SUCCESSFULLY, YOUR VISION AND PLAN FOR AN INCLUSIVE WORKPLACE PRACTICE AND APPLICATION AND PUTTING YOUR PLAN INTO ACTION.
UH, SO EACH ONE OF THOSE, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT, UM, UH, EXPLANATION, YOU KNOW, IN THE PACKET.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PACKET, UH, IN, IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, SO THE NEXT ONE, UH, OPTION TWO, TOTAL ENGAGEMENT CONSULTING.
UM, STAN KIMER, HE'S THE CONSULTANT THAT DELIVERED A TRAINING LAST YEAR.
I BELIEVE, UH, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ATTENDED THE TRAINING.
UH, SO, UH, HIS OUTLINE, TRAINING OUTLINE IS SETTING A BASE LEVEL OF D E I, EXPLORING UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, HOW TO GROW INTO AN INCLUSIVE LEADER, DIVERSITY OF LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATIONS, DIGGING DEEPER INTO CULTURAL COMPETENCE AND TAKING ACTIONS AND NEXT STEPS.
THIRD OPTION, UH, TEXAS DIVERSITY AWARENESS TRAINING.
YOU ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.
SO THE TRAINING OUTLINE IS WHAT IS DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION? LEGAL OVERVIEW, PROTECTED CATEGORIES, VALUE OF DIVERSITY STEREOTYPES, BREAKING DOWN THE BARRIERS, OPTIMIZING DIVERSITY.
DIVERSITY COMPLAINTS AS AN EMPLOYEE, DIVERSITY COMPLAINTS AS A MANAGER, DIVERSITY COMPLAINTS AS AN ORGANIZATION, CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, RESOURCES AND REFERENCES.
AND THE LAST ONE, IT'S LINKEDIN LEARNING.
THE TRAINING OUTLINE IS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION FOR ALL FOUNDATIONS OF DIVERSITY DRIVING ORGANIZATION ACCOUNTABILITY FOR D E I, INTEGRATING MENTAL HEALTH INTO D E I, INCLUSION AND EQUITY FOR WORKERS WITH DISABILITIES.
UNCONSCIOUS BIAS COMMUNICATING ABOUT CULTURAL SENSITIVE ISSUES.
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SO TO SUMMARIZE THAT, THE TRAIN UP WILL COST 3,295 FOR THREE DAYS TRAINING FROM NINE TO 5:00 PM THAT'S AN IN-PERSON TRAINING.AND THE VIRTUAL TRAINING, UH, WITH LIVE INSTRUCTOR IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
AND VARIETY OF COURSES CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHOOSE FROM DIFFERENT COURSES.
SO THEY WILL ALLOW US TO DESIGN AND ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO INCLUDE IN THE, UH, COURSE OUTLINE IF WE, UH, WERE TO CHOOSE, UH, THIS ROUTE.
THE NEXT ONE IS TOTAL ENGAGEMENT CONSULTING.
STAN KIMER, UM, WILL, YOU KNOW, IS FLEXIBLE AND HE WILL DESIGN THE MODULES BASED ON WHAT WE NEED.
THE COST FOR A VIRTUAL IS $1,500, 2000 IN PERSON.
AND BECAUSE IT'S FLYING IN FROM OUT OF STATE, UM, ANYTHING THAT WILL GO OVER, UM, $500, HE WILL COVER THAT.
SO THE, THE TRAINING MATERIALS AND TRAINING COURSE, IT'S, IT WILL RUN ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE HOURS.
UH, TEXAS DIVERSITY AWARENESS TRAINING.
THIS ONE IS, UM, PER PERSON, UH, $25 FOR ONE HOUR, $30 FOR THREE HOURS, $35 FOR FOUR HOURS, 55 MAXIMUM.
UH, SO THIS ONE WILL TRACK, UH, AND THE CONS, UH, SOMEONE FROM THEIR OFFICE TO, UH, THAT I TALKED TO THAT YOU CANNOT CHEAT.
SO THEY'RE MONITORING IF YOU'RE REALLY, UM, DOING IT OR GOING THROUGH THE, UH, EACH COURSE, UM, THAT THEY HAVE ONLINE.
UH, IT'S A SELF-TAUGHT AND THERE'S NO LIVE, UH, INSTRUCTORS.
AND THE LAST ONE IS LINKEDIN LEARNING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SEVERAL, THIS, THERE ARE SEVERAL VIDEOS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU.
UH, THERE ARE RANGING BETWEEN 30 MINUTES AND SOME WE FOUND LIKE 18 MINUTES UP TO SEVEN HOURS.
SO WITHIN THAT SEVEN HOURS, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF COURSES, UH, WITHIN THAT ONE COURSE.
UH, AND THAT'S ONLY ONE OF THE MANY, MANY VIDEOS THEY HAVE, UH, AVAILABLE.
UH, SAME THING AS A SELF, YOU KNOW, PACE, UM, COURSE OR TRAINING.
COUNCILMAN CLARK? UH, I THOUGHT HE, I THOUGHT, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO, UM, THE, THE LINKEDIN IS REALLY GOOD.
UM, MY COMPANY, WE DO A DIVERSITY DAY TODAY, EVERY, EVERY YEAR.
AND WE HAVE TO PICK SOME COURSES FROM THAT TO DO.
AND IT RANGES, UH, UH, A WHOLE RANGE OF, OF DIFFERENT, UH, DIVERSITY, UM, TOPICS.
I WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY, BUT ALSO HAVE WHERE YOU HAVE INFORMED CHECK-IN TO WATCH THE MINIMUM FOUR HOURS AT THE TEXAS DIVERSITY ONE.
AND THEN COMBINATION WITH ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL SUB, UH, STUFF WITH THE LINKEDIN LEARNING.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE THIS AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE OTHER WE HAVE TO DO, BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU GET A CERTIFICATE FOR THAT'S THEN TRACKED AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TO STAY ON EACH SLIDE FOR SO MANY MINUTES SO THEY KNOW YOU'RE READING IT AND, AND BEING ENGAGED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT ON THAT, TO SAVE BALANCED TAXPAYER MONEY, BUT THEN ALSO HAVE FLEXIBILITY AND GIVE TIME FOR THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMITTEE TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF, THEY COULD GO FROM THE LINKEDIN ONES AND SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE MODULES WE REALLY WANT TO ADD TO, AND IT'S NOT ADDING A COST.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE CERTIFICATE ONE THAT EVERYONE HAS TO DO AND WE CAN SET A TIMELINE ON THAT ONE AND THEN SAY, HEY, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS TO GET X NUMBER OF LINKEDIN LEARNING HOURS IN ADDITION AS CONTINUING EDUCATION, WHICH IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, ALSO, THE TEXAS DIVERSITY AWARENESS TRAINING.
I REQUESTED A DEMO OF THE ACTUAL TRAINING.
UH, SO, UM, I WILL BE CHECKING INTO THAT.
AND, UM, THEY'RE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, TELL US MORE ABOUT IT.
SO AS SOON AS THE DEMO, UM, IS AVAILABLE, I'LL BE WATCHING IT AND SHARE IT WITH YOU.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LINKEDIN LEARNING IS VALUABLE, IT'S HELPFUL, BUT I THINK IT'S ALMOST MORE OF A SUPPLEMENTAL THING THAT, THAT PEOPLE DO ON THEIR OWN AND IT'S NOT TRACKED.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO PUT THOSE RESOURCES OUT THERE AND PUT RECOMMENDATIONS OUT THERE.
AND IF ANY OF US TAKE ONE OF THOSE CLASSES, WE SHOULD LET THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD ONE, YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT FILLS WHAT WE'RE AFTER ON ITS OWN.
UM, THE SELF-PACED CLASSES ARE ONE THING, AND THERE THERE'S VALUE IN THOSE.
I, I SEE THAT, UM, STAN KIMER CLASS, WHEN HE DID IT FOR THE DNI D N I COMMISSION LAST YEAR, IT WAS DONE AS TWO NIGHTS AND IT WAS REMOTE, BUT HE'S WILLING TO TRAVEL AND THE TRAVEL EXPENSE
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IS NOT REALLY VERY MUCH.HE IS WILLING TO COME AND DO AN IN-PERSON SESSION.
I THINK HE WAS A GOOD PRESENTER.
SO I THINK HE SHOULD GET SOME CONSIDERATION, UM, FOR DOING THAT.
AND BY HAVING AN IN-PERSON AND HE IS WILLING TO DO IT ON A EVENING OR A WEEKEND SO THAT IT DOESN'T, IT'S EASIER TO SCHEDULE FOR PEOPLE.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A WIDER AUDIENCE TAKE PART IN THAT ONE TRAINING SESSION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIMIT IS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT WE COULD HAVE THE D N I COMMISSION DO IT WITH US.
WE COULD HAVE OTHER PEOPLE INVITED TO TAKE IT AS WELL.
UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT, THE TRAIN UP SOUNDS REALLY GOOD, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, THREE WEEKDAYS AND I CAN PROBABLY FIND THREE WEEKDAYS OF VACATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL CAN TAKE THREE WEEKDAYS OFF IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH RELATIVELY SHORT NOTICE.
UM, NOT THAT IT'S NOT A WORTHY THING TO DO, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO SCHEDULE, UH, WITH THAT KIND OF SET UP.
SO THAT ONE, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE I SEE ON THAT ONE.
UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, GIVING STAND CAMPERS, UH, COURSE SOME CONSIDERATION.
AND, UM, THE ONLINE CLASSES WITH, WITH THE CERTIFICATES, THERE'S VALUE THERE, BUT, UH, IT'S KIND OF A STEP UP FROM LINKEDIN, BUT IT'S, UH, THOSE ON THEIR OWN DON'T REALLY KIND OF FEEL LIKE THEY FILL WHAT WE NEED TO, TO DO COMPLETELY.
UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.
I THINK THE LINKEDIN, UM, CLASSES ARE MORE SUPPLEMENTAL.
I THINK THAT WE NEED, UM, IN-PERSON TRAINING.
SO I WOULD BE IN, UM, AND I THINK I'M A LITTLE, UH, PARTIAL BECAUSE, UH, I TOOK THIS TRAINING LAST YEAR, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S VALUE IN, UM, THE TOTAL ENGAGEMENT CONSULTING TRAINING THAT YOU PRESENTED IRENE.
UM, I THINK THAT TRAINING WILL BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ALL SIT DOWN, WE CAN ALL, UM, ASK QUESTIONS.
WE CAN BE DIAGNOSED ON, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY, BUT THEN ALSO THE, THE, THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY AND, AND CAPITALIZE ON THOSE.
SO I THINK, UM, AGAIN, AGREEING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON, THERE SHOULD BE, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR STAN KIMBER'S, UH, UH, TRAINING.
THANKS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY IN ANY OF THESE TRAININGS TO HAVE THE PUBLIC INVOLVED WITH IT? WITH THE TRAININGS THAT, LIKE THE IN-PERSON TRAININGS? OBVIOUSLY THE ONLINE ONES ARE ONLINE, RIGHT.
BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK I DID, I DID NOT ASK THEM THAT QUESTION, BUT I CAN ASK.
IF IT'S IN PERSON, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC JUST FROM A OH, TRUE.
'CAUSE WE'RE OPEN MEETING ACT DEAL.
UM, I GUESS JUST AS FAR AS I GUESS PARTICIPATION, IF THAT INCLUDES, LIKE, IF WE WERE TO MAYBE JUST LIKE, KIND OF LIKE A ROUND TABLE, NOT NECESSARILY US UP HERE, IF THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE US, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIKE SAY 20 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, COMING HERE, DOES THAT UP THE PRICE FOR THESE PEOPLE? 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY DO GREAT WORK, THEY NEED TO GET PAID, YOU KNOW, I'LL FIND, I'LL FIND OUT.
UM, BUT I GUESS THAT'S MY MAIN QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE JUST, UH, FROM PUBLIC COMMENT, LISTENING TO MRS. WILLIAMS, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED CITY STAFF AND HR TO, UM, COME BACK WITH OPTIONS, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
UH, YOU GAVE US PLENTY OF OPTIONS.
BUT, UM, JUST FROM HER PERSPECTIVE AND HER EXPERIENCE, JUST, UM, OTHER, OTHER ONES THAT, OTHER CLASSES THAT SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH OR THAT CAN BE SOUGHT OUT BY THE CITY.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, LED LED BY HER, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVING US THAT EYE-OPENING, UM, VIEW THAT, UM, OF COURSE THERE'S A TON OF OF THESE CLASSES OUT THERE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIND THE CLASS THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR HUDU.
AS SOMEONE WHO DOES PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND WORKSHOPS ON A REGULAR BASIS, I DON'T LIKE ANY OF THESE OPTIONS.
IT FEELS LIKE IT'S KIND OF A COVER YOUR YOURSELF KIND OF DEAL, ESPECIALLY THE LINKEDIN LEARNING, DO IT SHOW ME CERTIFICATE, SO I KNOW YOU DID IT.
UM, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING THAT GIVES YOU HEART, THAT GIVES YOU PASSION, THAT ACTUALLY PUTS YOU IN THE MOMENT TO FEEL THE MICROAGGRESSIONS, TO FEEL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE ONE OF THOSE OTHERS.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE OPTIONS, UM, GIVE IT TO US.
THE CLOSEST WOULD BE STAN, WHICH I ACTUALLY WENT AND READ SOME OF HIS REVIEWS AND HE'S GOT GREAT REVIEWS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST TO IT.
BUT I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY NO SELF-TAUGHT,
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NO VIDEOS, NO ONLINE.IT'S GOTTA BE, IF WE'RE GONNA HEAL THE COMMUNITY AND IF WE'RE GONNA LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND GROW, IT HAS TO BE IN PERSON AND IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.
UM, I, STAN WOULD BE THE CLOSEST, BUT YOU KNOW, I AM A TRAINED LEADER AND DARE TO LEAD BY BRENE BROWN.
UM, I DO LEADERSHIP CLASSES WITH BRENE'S STUFF ALL THE TIME.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF I WANNA GET INTO.
NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST DOING TO SAY WE DID IT, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND KIND OF FORCE PEOPLE TO, TO CHANGE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S DONE HERE, BUT THANK YOU FOR TRYING.
I'LL SEND YOU SOME SUGGESTIONS.
UM, TO ME THE, UH, THE TWO ONLINE ONES, UH, JUST SEEM TO BE KIND OF CHECK THE BOX KIND OF THINGS THAT, SO I'M IN AGREEMENT THERE.
UM, I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING ANY OPTION THAT WASN'T IN PERSON INSTRUCTOR LED.
UM, I THINK I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, MID-YEAR REFRESHERS, WE ARE ENCOURAGED AND GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO GO TO LINKEDIN.
AND I, I DO A LOT OF LINKEDIN TRAINING WITH MY WORK AND THERE, THERE'S SOME REALLY GREAT ONES, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SUPPLEMENTAL THING TO ME.
UM, THE ONE I WAS LEANING TOWARDS WAS STAN KIMER, UH, BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO REALLY KIND OF CATER TO HU UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY CAME.
AND SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT HE KIND OF KNEW WHO WE WERE AND WAS BRINGING IN A LOT OF HU CENTRIC STUFF.
AND SO, UM, BUT I'M, UH, I'M WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UM, MAYBE KEEP HIM ON THE LIST AND THEN GO OUT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL ONES AND REALLY TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
UH, SOME MORE OF THE DEEP DIVE.
LET'S REALLY KINDA GET IN AND DO SOMETHING AND SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL EVENINGS WHERE WE COULD COME IN THE EVENINGS AND, AND DO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE VACATION DAYS OFF OF WORK, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT OVER MULTIPLE DAYS.
THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE I WAS LEANING.
I THINK IT'S WORTH THE TIME AND THE INVESTMENT AND DOING IT RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL OPEN UP TO FOUR, UM, FOR A MOTION.
UM, I THINK TERRANCE, TERRANCE WANTED TO, OH YEAH, SORRY, TERRANCE.
I GET OUTTA I GET OUTTA SINK AND THEN, UH, I'LL FORGET.
TERRANCE OWENS, UH, 23 YEAR RESIDENT OF HUDU.
UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT FIRST.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK DAN THORNTON FOR HIS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THINKING, UH, FOR THESE, UM, FOR THOSE TWO COMMITTEES, ESPECIALLY THE LIBRARY AND THE D N I, UM, FUN FACT.
AND WE HAVE VETERANS, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS 16 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SPOKEN.
WE HAVE 22 SPOKEN IN IN HU I S D.
SO WE HAVE A VERY MULTIVERSE CULTURAL, UH, GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE AS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, SHOULD, UH, SERVE THEM ALSO.
AND THEN WHEN I SAY SERVE, I SAY JUST KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY REPRESENT, MAKING SURE THAT AS MYSELF, WHEN I DO HOME HEALTH, I'M ALWAYS AWARE OF CULTURAL.
SOME PLACES I'M ALLOWED TO GO IN AND TAKE, HAVE TO TAKE MY SHOES OFF BECAUSE OF CULTURE.
I HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY FROM PATIENTS BECAUSE OF CULTURE, UH, NOT WANTING A MAN TO SERVE THEIR MOTHER.
SO I WANT TO THANK DAN FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX BECAUSE WHEN YOU BRING IN THE I S D UH, FAMILIES, PARENTS, UM, WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED IN THE, IN THE SCHOOLS AND WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT WORK, AND YOU BRING 'EM INTO AREAS WHERE THEY FEEL WANTED AND NEEDED, WHICH IS THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS THE DIVER DIVERSITY AND EQUITY INCLUSION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND ESTABLISHED.
AS FAR AS THE OPTIONS ARE CONCERNED, UM, I'M KIND OF IN AGREEMENT WITH SOME OF YOU GUYS.
STAN SEEMS LIKE TO BE THE BEST OPTION, BUT IF I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH MYSELF, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE A DEEPER DIVE.
LIKE, UH, COUNCILLOR WILCOX SAID, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS JUST NOT A CHECKOFF BOX.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I, I I I I, I JUST GOT OFF FACEBOOK AND I'M, I'M ALREADY BEING ATTACKED SO THAT, THAT'S COOL.
BUT I KNOW WHERE YOU STAND AND IT, IT REALLY MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO COME UP HERE AND TO EVEN CRITICIZE OR COMMENT ABOUT YOU GUYS.
'CAUSE I, I'VE, I'M, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE, BUT THE TRAINING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, THE, THE TRAINING NEEDS TO BE IN ORGANIC CONVERSATION.
UM, IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP SITUATIONS AND INSTANCES AND UNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN LAST MONTH.
UM, SOME SAY IT'S DIVIDED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.
SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S DIVIDED BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
AND I, I WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY, KIM, BUT I DO THINK STAN IS PROBABLY THE BEST OPTIONS.
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YOU'RE GONNA GO WITH SOMEONE.IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S SOMEONE WHO CAN SELF-DIAGNOSE HIS COUNSEL IN THE CITY AND TAILOR SOMETHING TO WHERE YOU GUYS CAN, LIKE YOU, LIKE COUNCILMAN CALL SAYS, SIT ON THE FLOOR AND A GROUND TABLE.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD OFFER THE SUGGESTIONS THAT PUBLIC IS WELCOME, BUT THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS.
AND I, I I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE ANY INPUT OR CONVERSATIONS.
THIS SHOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH YOURSELVES WITH THE PUBLIC LOOKING AT IT.
AND I DO CARE ABOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
AND I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO EACH AND ONE OF YOU SO WE CAN SIT DOWN AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GET HR TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL WITH STAN AND MAYBE TWO OTHERS FOR US TO EVALUATE.
UM, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE GOING WITH, UH, AND DEFINITELY BE IN PERSON.
UM, I THINK THE, THE PUBLIC SHOULD WATCH IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE US PARTICIPATING AND, AND YOU WOULD LOSE, IT'D GET DILUTED IF IT'S NOT JUST THE SEVEN OF US GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO THE MOTION IS DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL FROM STAN AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE FOR IN PERSON.
I WAS GONNA MOTION BY M CLARK, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? IS, IS IT, I DUNNO IF YOU NEED TO SPECIFY, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR EVENING OR WEEKEND ONLY.
I WOULD JUST SAY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE TRAINING.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS THIS IS A TRAINING, BUT IT CAN BE THE START AND IF THE START IS STAND, YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD AND DO MORE TRAINING THROUGHOUT MM-HMM.
I, I GUESS BECAUSE THE TWO OF Y'ALL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON AND THORNTON, Y'ALL TOOK STAN'S TRAINING.
UM, AND I GUESS YOU HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, WOULD HE OFFER SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN, TAKEN IT? I MEAN, THAT'D BE A GOOD QUESTION.
I MEAN, TO CHANGE, I DON'T, HE WOULD, I DON'T THINK HE WOULD.
I THINK IT'D BE THE SAME THING.
UM, BUT I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE, I WOULD AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
I DON'T THINK IT, I DON'T THINK IT NAILS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT MM-HMM.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING TRAINING, I THINK IT DOES MM-HMM.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, ON WHAT, WHAT THE GOAL IS.
I THINK IT GETS THINGS STARTED AT LEAST.
AND I THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S A VOCABULARY INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE TOPIC MM-HMM.
AND I THINK HE WAS PRETTY GOOD AT MAKING YOU AWARE THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF AND YOU KNOW, THAT YOU NEVER WOULD'VE THOUGHT OF.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN THAT.
IS IT EVERYTHING WE NEED? NO, I'M SURE IT'S NOT.
BUT I, I THINK IT'S VALUABLE ENOUGH TO START.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE MONEY THAT HE WAS CHARGING FOR WHAT IT WOULD GIVE TO US.
I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE BEYOND THAT.
I'VE TAUGHT CULTURAL PEDAGOGY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR 20 YEARS, SO I GET IT.
I WANT SOME PASSION BEHIND IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[11. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
US, BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS WE HAVE ITEMS 11, 1, 11, 2, 11, 3, 11, 4, 11, 5, 11, 6, 11, 7, 11, 8, 11, 9, 11, 10, 11, 11, 11, 12, 11, 13, 11 14, AND 1115 UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANYONE WISHES TO PULL TO DISCUSS? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 1115.
ANY OBJECTIONS? I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEMS. 11, 7 11 8.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THOSE? ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT.
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SHE SAID SO MOVED.SO MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL CLARK PINGING TO CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL, I'M SORRY, MAYOR SCHNEIDER.
[11.7. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-276 amending the Wastewater Modeling Individual Project Order with Garver, LLC. by extending the completion date to February 29, 2029 (Matt Rector)]
ITEM 11 SEVEN CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2023 DASH 27 6 AMENDING THE WASTEWATER MODELING INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ORDER WITH GARVER L L C BY EXTENDING THE COMPLETION DATE TO FEBRUARY 29TH, 2029.ONLY QUESTION, MATT, WAS THE WAY I WAS READING THE PACKET, IT, IT WAS ONLY GONNA GO TO 2024.
AND SO WHY, WHY THE FIVE YEAR EXTENSION AND THEN FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, ARE WE ALLOWED TODAY TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT THE NEXT, I GUESS, UH, SIX YEARS EVERYBODY'S TIED INTO, UH, AND THERE SOME KIND OF LAW OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THAT? MAYOR, IF I MAY, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE AGENDA IS A TYPO.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THE RE WAS 24 WAS TO GO UNTIL 29.
I THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO FEBRUARY OF 24.
SO WHAT I WOULD SAY, 'CAUSE THE PACKET WAS SAYING 24 AND THIS SAID 29.
I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH ONE HERE.
BASED ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 11.7, 11.8.
PRESENTED, UM, SINCE I PULLED THAT I TALKED, BUT WHERE'S MY LIST AT? HERE'S, SORRY, WE GOTTA GO WITH THE, OF THIS ORDER HERE.
SO I HAVE COUNCILOR THORNTON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM? NO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE DATES TOO.
NOW WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION.
MAKE A MOTION TO PRO APPROVE 11 7 11 8 AS PRESENTED WITH THE CORRECTION THAT IT'S FEBRUARY OF 2024.
SO, OKAY, 11 SEVEN IS PRESENTED WITH THE CORRECTION OF FEBRUARY 22ND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLARK, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THOMPSON.
AND THAT'S APPROVING AS PRESENTED OF FEBRUARY, 2026.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I CATCH HEARING NONE.
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE A MEMBER THORNTON AYE.
[11.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2023-277 amending the On Call Wastewater Services Extension Individual Project Order with Garver, LLC by extending the completion date to February 29, 2029 (Matt Rector)]
HAVE ITEM 11 EIGHT.CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION, ACTION AND RESOLUTION BLESS YOU.
NUMBER R DASH 2023 DASH TWENTY SEVEN SEVEN AMENDING THE ON-CALL WASTEWATER SERVICES EXTENSION INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ORDER WITH GARVER L L C BY EXTENDING THE COMPLETION DATE TO FEBRUARY 29TH.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT COUNCILMAN THOMPSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS? NOPE.
WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR A MOTION.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH 2023 DASH 27 7 AS PRESENTED WITH THE FEBRUARY, 2024 DATE? I HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR.
ANY DISCUSSION TO MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON AYE.
[11.15. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2023-033 for the proposed Specific Use Permit request for the property known as 901 Ed Schmidt Boulevard, to allow a drive-through facility (UDC 10.304.10) (Second Reading) (Ashley Bailey)]
WE HAVE ITEM 1115 CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O DASH 2023 DASH 0 3 3 FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 9 0 1 EDGE SCHMIDT BOULEVARD TO ALLOW A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY U D C 10.304 10.UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED, I, I DIDN'T, I LOOKED THROUGH THE PACKET.
I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY UPDATE ON THE SMOKE SCRUB.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ASHLEY BAILEY, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PACKET THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS, BUT THERE ARE NO SPECIFICS THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU UNTIL WE GET INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT.
AND MOST OF THOSE, WHAT I'M BEING TOLD ON THE BUILDING PLAN REVIEW SIDE IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE EXHAUST WOULD BE PER MANUFACTURER'S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPECIFIC
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MATERIALS THAT THEY'RE USING IN THEIR EXHAUST SYSTEM.BUT, UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS FURTHER WHAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT IN THE BUILDING.
I MEAN, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM, UM, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISION.
UM, DEAR JAMESON, CIVIL ENGINEERING, UM, OUR CLIENT, OUR ARCHITECT HERE AS WELL, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
UM, WE HAVE DECIDED TO PROPOSE PUTTING IN SOMETHING CALLED A GREASE TRAPPER, E S P, WHICH WOULD REDUCE SMOKE UP TO 95%.
UM, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE ROUND ROCK LOCATION PRODUCING A LOT OF SMOKE.
I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH TO THE CLIENT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE OF THEIR BUSIEST LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THEY'RE EXPECTING AT LEAST 50% OF THAT.
SO WITH THAT, WITH THE HUDDLE LOCATION NOT PRODUCING AS MUCH BUSINESS, WHICH EQUALS NOT AS MUCH SMOKE.
ALSO WITH THIS GREASE TRAPPER, E S P, WE EXPECT TO REDUCE SMOKE BY, FOR NOT TO BE A MAJOR CONCERN TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I BELIEVE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO, I BELIEVE I STARTED OVER HERE FIRST.
WE'VE GONE TO, SO COUNCILMAN KOHLER, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UM, ASHLEY, WHAT IS THAT, UM, THAT PIECE OF LAND? WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE ZONING ON IT? UH, COMMERCIAL.
UM, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SMOKE.
UM, WITH THIS, I GUESS MY, MY CONCERN IS NOT WITH, UM, THE USE, UM, I'M OKAY WITH WITH THE RESTAURANT.
UM, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, BUSINESSES WANTING TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, OUR COMMUNITY NOT GIVING THEM A CHANCE.
UM, AND ALSO JUST, UM, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME, SOME PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT A LOT OF GOVERNMENT IN, UH, IN THEIR LIVES.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE BUSINESS IS WILLING TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT SAYING NO TO SOMEONE WHO'S WILLING TO COME SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD LOOK FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS GREAT.
IT'S ZONED, UM, APPROPRIATELY FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S JUST ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILCOTT, I AGREE.
UH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT, UM, A DRIVE THROUGH BEING SO CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SMOKE AND THE SMELL OF CHICKEN AND INUNDATING THEIR HOMES.
UM, SO I DO LIKE THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING PLANS TO ADDRESS THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE, INCLUDING THE ENGINEER, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT.
UM, SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS CAN BE RECTIFIED SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
UM, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU AS WELL.
UM, YOU HEARD OUR CONCERNS LAST WEEK.
YOU RESPONDED, YOU CAME BACK WITH A PLAN AND, AND 95% REDUCTION IN SMOKE I THINK IS A GREAT PLAN.
UM, I THINK THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE AROUND THERE WILL BE APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO THANK YOU AND SAY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IDEALLY HOW GOVERNMENTS AND BUSINESSES WORK TOGETHER.
UH, WE WORK TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT FITS EVERYONE AND, AND, UH, PUT IT INTO ACTION.
WHAT WAS THAT THING CALLED? AN E S G.
UH, LEMME ASK YOU THIS, IF, IF HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, A MOTION WAS MADE FOR THE S U P THAT ADDED IN A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAD TO INSTALL THIS MM-HMM.
WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH.
BELIEVE ME, I APPRECIATE THE ARGUMENT OF I LIKE YOUR BUSINESS, BUT THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT SPACE.
MY FEAR IS ALWAYS IF WE DON'T ADD IN CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, IT'S, WE'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO FORCE YOU TO DO SOMETHING.
AND SO, UM, VERY FEW BUSINESSES ACTUALLY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS WRONG PLACE, WRONG BUSINESS.
MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS I THINK WERE ABOUT SMOKE.
AND, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE FORESIGHT.
I I KID YOU NOT, WHEN I DRIVE BY ROUND ROCK, UM, EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY I ALWAYS THINK, MAN, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT THING'S ON FIRE? AND THEN, UH, WHEN I FOUND IT WAS COMING THERE, I'M LIKE, IF, IF IT, IT'S NOT THAT I LIVED BY THERE.
ONE OF THE ISSUES I THINK HUDU
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HAS HAD IN THE PAST IS WE HAD A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE REZONED AND BUILT 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.AND WE LET THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE WHERE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS COME THROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT SINCE THEY DID THAT.
AND SO WHEN I SEE AS WE INFILL ALL THESE LAST LITTLE THINGS JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE, WE, WE HAVE A WHOLE COMMERCIAL WING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND WE ACTUALLY, AS A COUNCIL VOTED THAT THE FAR EASTERN PAD THAT WAS NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE WAS NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO HAVE OUTDOOR MUSIC.
UM, JUST AS A PRECAUTION BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT LITERALLY, I THINK IT'S LIKE FIVE FEET FROM A GUY'S POOL.
AND SO I LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AS LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES AND OUR CODE HASN'T CAUGHT UP, BUT I THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUTTA BUSINESS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT'S WHERE SUVS COME IN IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO USE THESE AS AN EXAMPLE, NOT TO BE OVERBEARING, BUT TO TAKE A FEW THINGS LIKE THIS AND, UH, MAKE A CHANGE.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, I'M HOPING WE, THAT'S ALL WE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON Y'ALL.
THEN YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND PAY LOTS OF PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND, UM, JUST WANT TO BRING TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THAT, UH, THE ZONING IS APPROVED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
WE ARE HERE FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
UM, AND, AND THE CLIENT IS, IS SUPPORTIVE IN, UH, PUTTING THE, UM, GREASE INHIBITOR FAN INTO THE SYSTEM.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE, WE HAVE IS, UM, IN THE FUTURE, IF IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESTAURANT, THAT A CHANGE CAN BE MADE TO THE HOOD SYSTEM.
UM, IN, IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT'S GONNA BE AN ASK YOU QUESTION.
MY GUESS WOULD BE IF YOU GUYS GO TO CHANGE A RESTAURANT IN THE FUTURE, UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO PERMIT IT TO THE CITY.
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING, WE'LL DETERMINE WHAT THE CITY AT THAT POINT.
UM, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT MY GUESS IS YOU GUYS, WITHOUT A DRIVE-THROUGH, YOU MAY MAYBE WOULDN'T BUILD.
BUT IS THAT SAFE TO SAY, ASHLEY, THAT IN THE FUTURE THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUST GO THROUGH NORMAL PERMITTING AND YES, BUT BECAUSE THIS ZONING AT THIS POINT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC YEAS PERMIT FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH, I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO IF IT WAS THEN CONDITIONED BASED ON THAT GREASE TRAP, ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE INTERIOR, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BUILDING PERMITS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO.
SO IF LIKE IN 10 YEARS THEY SWITCH OUT USES AND, UM, AND THE NEW USE WASN'T GONNA BE, LET'S SAY IT WAS GONNA BE A SUSHI RESTAURANT AND THEY WERE GONNA HAVE THE SMOKE, THEN HYPOTHETICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME AND THEN SAY, WE HAVE A NEW USE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE SMOKE, BUT WE HAVE TO INSTALL OTHER EQUIPMENT.
DO YOU GUYS APPROVE TAKING IT OUT? CORRECT.
SO TO MODIFY ANYTHING AFTER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WOULD BE APPROVED, WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH P N Z AND COUNSEL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING, I WAS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TRY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, UM, WHEN, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL COULD JUST DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A DRIVE-THROUGH.
YOU COULD BUILD YOUR RESTAURANT EXACTLY AS IT IS.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT A GREASE TRAP IN THERE AND YOU ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL TO DO SO.
AND WE WOULD HAVE NO SAY ABOUT IT.
SO I WANTED THAT TO BE OUT IN THE PUBLIC FIRST, UM, TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, WE WORK TOGETHER AND WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
I, I IMAGINE THAT IF YOU THEN DIDN'T DO IT, SOME PEOPLE ON COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE, BUT THEN IT BRINGS UP A WHOLE OTHER ISSUES.
IF OVER TIME A RESTAURANT CHANGES OR WHATEVER, THEN IT CREATES A, A, AN UNDUE BURDEN.
I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU COULD DO IT WITHOUT THE DRIVE-THROUGH THAT THAT'S OVERBURDENING FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF US THEN TRYING TO PUT IT IN THE WRITTEN CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS SPECIFIC GREASE TRAP.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT EXACT MODEL'S NOT MADE ANYMORE? YOU CAN'T REPAIR IT.
NOW THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO, TO SOME FUTURE COUNCIL JUST TO KEEP THEIR RESTAURANT ALIVE.
EVEN IF IT'S THIS RESTAURANT, IF THEY DID A REMODEL, THAT AND THAT KIND OF THING IS A PROBLEM.
I IMAGINE THAT IF THERE WAS, UM, I MEAN WE ALREADY HAVE ORDINANCE ABOUT, UM, THE, THE LEVEL OF, UM, SMOKE OR WHATEVER THAT'S ALLOWED IN OUR ORDINANCE ALREADY IS ALREADY THERE.
SO THIS, IN MY OPINION, WRITING IT IN IS AN OVERBURDEN, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE, YOU COULD JUST DECIDE NOT TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
SO, UM, I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING IT.
I'M, I'M GONNA TRUST THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IT BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF ANGRY CUSTOMERS PICKETING SAYING NO SMOKE OUT FRONT, AND THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT YOU WANNA START IN HUD.
RIGHT? UM, SO ORIGINALLY, UH, WE DIDN'T GET A MOTION AND IT DIED.
UM, NOT BECAUSE I HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH THE RESTAURANT.
I WAS WAITING FOR THE LIMMER LOOP, UM, TRAFFIC STUDY TO
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COME BACK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO FOR MITIGATION, WHICH YOU HEARD ABOUT, UM, AS WELL.SO IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU GUYS, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF SEE THAT SITE PLAN AND THEN KNOW WHAT WE HAD AS A RECOMMENDATION TO WHAT WE DO.
SO WE DIDN'T APPROVE SOMETHING THAT THEN IS GONNA CHANGE AND KIND OF HANDCUFF OUR HANDS OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THE ROAD.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THAT PART OF IT.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I, I I VIEW IT.
SO THANK YOU GUYS AND WE'LL SEE HOW THE MOTION COMES OUT AND WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS CUSTOMER THORNTON.
YEAH, I HAD SOME OF THE SAME THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, MY INITIAL CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT WAS WHY WE, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT SEVERAL MONTHS BACK.
UH, SAME, SAME THOUGHTS OF, YOU KNOW, IF IT DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH AT ALL, THERE WOULD BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR ANYTHING AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO JUST BUILD IT AND WE'D HAVE THE SMOKE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD STOP THAT.
BUT A QUESTION FOR ASHLEY, UM, WHETHER WE PUT THE, THE, THE SMOKE REDUCTION IN THERE OR NOT, IF THEY CHANGE BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO UPDATE THE S U P IF THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO.
'CAUSE ONCE THE S E P IS DONE, AND I MEAN, AGAIN, CONCERN, SO IT CARRIES FROM BUSINESS TO BUSINESS EVEN.
IT WOULD BECAUSE IT STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO IF SOMETHING CHANGES, BUT IT'S ODD TO ME HONESTLY THAT WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A USE THAT REQUIRES AN ARCHITECTURAL CHANGE TO THE BUILDING.
SO TO SAY YOU HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, YOU CAN'T USE IT UNTIL YOU GET REAPPROVED OR YOU REMODEL THE BUILDING MIGHT BE A LITTLE AWKWARD.
UM, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS AT LENGTH WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE U D C COMPLETELY TO SEE IF SOME OF THESE MAKE SENSE OR IF THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE, UM, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS INSTEAD.
I STILL THINK THERE'S PROBABLY GOTTA BE SOME WAY WE CAN WORD IT TO MAKE IT NOT INCREDIBLY RESTRICTIVE.
IT'D BE GREAT TO GET IT IN IN THE S U P IN MY, IN MY OPINION, IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT WITHOUT MAKING IT BURDENSOME IN THE FUTURE, THAT'LL BE BASED ON THE USER.
I THINK THAT'S THE BURDEN OF GOING LAST.
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, I DID LOOK UP THE, UH, THE, UH, GREASE TRAPPER E S P.
UM, THAT'S A PRETTY INTERESTING MECHANISM.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, SO THANK YOU.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED ON SECOND READING, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILOR CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCIL KOLAR APPROVING THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS PART, UM, DOTTIE, BUT CAN YOU NOT MAKE, UM, AN SS U P THAT ALLOWS THE DRIVE THROUGH TO ONLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH SO LONG AS IT IS EL RICO? TO WHERE THEN, I MEAN, CAN YOU PUT A STIPULATION ON THE S U P TO THAT EXTENT? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN LIKE NAME THE BUSINESS, BUT UM, LIKE SO LONG AS IT'S A BARBECUE, UH, CHARCOAL CHICKEN RESTAURANT, IS THAT CLOSER
AND THEN THAT WAY THE WHOLE S U P GOES AWAY AND THEN THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THAT ONCE YOU APPROVE A O ONCE YOU APPROVE A DRIVE THROUGH, IT'S PERMANENT.
I WOULD THINK THAT EACH TIME THEY NEED TO COME BACK BECAUSE OTHERWISE WELL IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
BUT I, I'VE HAD SUVS THAT DON'T RUN WITH THE LAND AND I DON'T KNOW IF WALLS HAVE CHANGED, BUT, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE REASON I'M ASKING, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO MAKE THE MOTION.
I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA MAKE 'EM HAVE TO HAVE A GREASE TRAPPER E S P FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS, BUT IF THEY HAVE TO REZONE IT IN MY MIND OR COME BACK UP TO COUNCIL IN 10 YEARS, I MEAN, THERE'S WORSE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY FOR ME TO MODIFY THAT TO WHERE IT JUST GOES TO, SO LONG AS THERE'S A CHARCOAL CHICKEN GRILLING, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, HOW YOU SAY IT, BUT THEN I'M OKAY DOING THAT.
OTHERWISE I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE HIM INSTALL A GREASE TRAPPER.
E S P I DON'T ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I DIDN'T SAY A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXACTLY WORD IT.
WHAT IF WE DID IT BASED ON THE CO FOR THE EXISTING USER APPLYING AT THIS POINT.
SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THE CO WHAT THE CO WILL STATE THE BUSINESS OWNER AT THE TIME IT OPENS.
AND SO THE S E P WOULD RUN WITH THAT, BUT IT'S AWKWARD BECAUSE THE S E P IS REALLY JUST FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH USE.
IT'S NOT FOR THE SMOKE OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH USE.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE MITIGATING FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH, THAT'S WHAT THE SS E P IS FOR, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THE MITIGATION FACTORS FOR A MORE AUTO ORIENTED USE, NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SMOKE.
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO LIKE SHOEHORN SOMETHING AND YOU'RE ALSO SO HOLD ON.
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ABILITY TO OWN, SELL THEIR PROPERTY.WELL WE'RE NOT GONNA DEBATE, WE'RE NOT GONNA DEBATE THE MOTION YET UNTIL I UNDERSTAND HOW I NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN IF I GET A SECOND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEBATE IT IF I DON'T GET A SECOND AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DEBATE.
WELL I GUESS THE UM, CONDITION WOULD BE AS LONG AS THE USE CONSISTS OF A CHARCOAL CHICKEN, UM, CHICKEN DRIVE THROUGH DRIVE, DRIVE THROUGH CHARCOAL CHICKEN DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THEN THE MOTION WILL BE THAT SO LONG AS THIS IS A CHARCOAL CHICKEN DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT THAT THEY HAVE A GREASE TRAPPER E S P INSTALLED.
BUT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, COULD IT BE OR EQUIVALENT SYSTEM? YES.
CAN I BRING SOMETHING UP? SO WE'RE A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT PUTTING THAT SPECIFIC MODEL IN THERE JUST IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO THIS MODEL WOULD SAY YOU OKAY WITH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH OR EQUIVALENT SYSTEM? OR EQUIVALENT SYSTEM WOULD BE PERFECT.
IF YOU CAN CUT OUT 90 TO 95% OF THE SMOKE, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE GOT HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS BUT, OKAY.
SO, SO LONG AS IT'S A CHARCOAL CHICKEN DRIVE THROUGH, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A GREASE TRAP OR E S P OR SOME EQUIVALENT SYSTEM.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO LEGISLATIVELY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO IF THEY GO TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THEY DO SMOKEY MOST BARBECUE THAT ALSO DOES SMOKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT CHICKEN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, IT GOES AWAY.
IF THEY WANNA SELL THE RESTAURANT TO A SUSHI PLACE, THEY CAN STILL DO DRIVE THROUGH.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AT ALL.
'CAUSE IT'S THEIR PROPERTY AND IT'S JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT SYSTEM ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SMOKING A CHARCOAL CHICKEN SYSTEM.
I, I MEAN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE GOING DOWN TO SUCH A SMALL POINT.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY EVEN WHAT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IT WON'T EVEN REALLY IN TRUE FASHION EVEN BE ABLE TO BE ENFORCED OUTSIDE OF JUST THIS ONE BUSINESS AT THE MOMENT.
SO WHAT WHAT STAFF WOULD END UP DOING IS IF THE C E O OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WERE TO CHANGE WITH THE NEW OWNER.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT REQUIRES.
IF A BUSINESS IS, UM, BOUGHT BY SOMEONE ELSE, THE NEW OWNER IS SUPPOSED TO COME IN AND WE DO COURTESY INSPECTIONS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S UP TO CODE AND THEN THE NEW C O IS ISSUED.
SO IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, WE WOULD HAVE TO PULL THAT S U P AND SEE WHAT KIND OF USE THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE.
BUT THAT'S ALSO, IF THEY'RE FULLY DISCLOSING WHAT THEIR USE IS GOING TO BE.
'CAUSE THEY CAN SAY THEY'RE A RESTAURANT AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE THAT QUESTION ENDS.
I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO CHANGE IT TO BE, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE BUSINESS.
SO IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A SMOKE EMITTING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, I MEAN THE IDEA HERE IS TO LET A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS WORK BUT NOT AS A DETRIMENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF IT.
AND SO IF THE WORDING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, I DON'T DISAGREE THEN.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS.
SO IF IT NEEDS TO BE A SMOKE EMITTING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T WANT A BURGER KING TO GO THERE AND SOMEONE GO, I THINK I SAW A PUFF OF SMOKE.
AND SO, SO I'M NOT TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT.
BUT IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON FIRE, I THINK WE NEED TO CONTAIN IT.
UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE CODES FOR THAT.
BUT WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE SENTENCE ON ODOR AND THAT WAS IT IN THE UDC AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE.
SO, SO DOES THAT WORK BETTER NADI IF THERE'S A, IF WE CHANGE THIS TO BE JUST A SMOKE EMITTING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT OR IS THAT NOW, NOW ARE WE, HAVE WE GONE FROM TOO DETAILED TO SO VAGUE THAT I DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE YOU'VE LOST ME.
SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO IT.
NO, I THINK THIS IS OVERBURDENING THE ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S US GETTING IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS.
THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO, TO PUT THE, THE GREASE TRAP IN.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A REQUIREMENT ON A GREASE TRAP ON AN S U P THAT'S ALLOWING A DRIVE THROUGH.
I I JUST THINK WE'RE PERSONALLY, I JUST THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO JUMP THROUGH A BUNCH OF HOOPS.
SO LET'S CALL THE VOTE THEN WE'RE DOING TOO MUCH.
I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I LOST HER WHERE WE'RE AT HERE.
SO, UM, WE'LL JUST START AT THE END.
COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER, UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM GORDON.
UH, THIS SS U P IS SP SPECIFICALLY FOR DRIVE THROUGH AND I, I BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING INTO MICROMANAGING THEIR BUSINESS AND HOW THEY OPERATE AND HOW THEY CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, I AM, I I HOPE THAT THEY PUT IN THIS, YOU KNOW, E S P GREASE TRAPPER, UH, TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR COMMUNITY,
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BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO TELL THEM OR REQUIRE THEM TO, TO DO THIS.UM, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO, UH, ASK, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THIS A PART OF YOUR ARCHITECTURE DESIGN.
UM, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF HUDA, WE WOULD LOVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUSINESS HERE.
UH, BUT UM, TO REQUIRE IT, UM, I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT COUNCIL.
MAYOR WILCOTT, AYE, CONCUR MAYOR PRO TOM GORDON.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY COMMON THAT WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS US FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM CHANGED FROM WHAT THEIR LAIN ZONING THAT WE, WE ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNUSUAL TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME WITH, WITH, UH, WITH PUDS, UM, HAPPENS A LOT.
UM, WE GET PEOPLE TO PUT RESTRICTIONS IN BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMETHING.
SO WE GET SOMETHING THAT THAT BENEFITS THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I SEE THIS AS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
IF THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IN, THAT'S GREAT.
I'D RATHER HAVE IT IN THE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN DOWN AND, AND AGREED TO IN THE, IN THE, UH, PERMIT ITSELF.
SO I PLAN TO VOTE YES ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S OVERLY RESTRICTIVE.
COUNCILOR THOMPSON AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COLAY AND THEN MAYOR, YOU HAD ASKED HOW DO WE DESCRIBE IT? I THINK I LOOK THESE TYPES OF RESTAURANTS ARE TYPICAL CALLED SMOKEHOUSE RESTAURANTS.
SO IF IT WAS A SMOKEHOUSE RESTAURANT, YOU WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT LANGUAGE? I'M OKAY WITH THAT LANGUAGE.
SO, SO LONG AS IT'S A SMOKEHOUSE RESTAURANT, IT'S GOTTA HAVE A GREASE TRAPPER E S P R EQUIVALENT SYSTEM.
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE MAYOR FOR TIM GORDON NAY.
MOTION FAILS TWO TO FIVE SET LEAVES THE UNDERLINE MOTION TO APPROVE PROCEED.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL LAR OR COUNCILMAN CLARK.
SECOND BY COUNCIL LAR, ANY DISCUSSION? JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO DO IT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HERE'S ALL I'D SAY.
THIS IS THE REPETITIVE PROBLEM WE MAKE AS A COUNCIL IN MY MIND IS WE GO ON TRUST.
AND I DON'T KNOW THESE GUYS, I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY WOULDN'T DO THIS.
I PRAY THAT YOU DO BECAUSE, UM, IT'S HUDU AND YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT IT.
BUT EVERY OTHER CITY OUT THERE, WHEN WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE, YOU REQUIRE IT DONE.
AND IF AS LONG AS WE KEEP SAYING THINGS LIKE, UM, WE HOPE YOU DO IT AND YOU SAID YOU'D DO IT, WHY WOULD I DISTRUST YOU? WE'RE GONNA KEEP HAVING ISSUES IN HUDDLE THAT WE HAVE AND UNTIL WE MAKE A CHANGE, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY GONNA DO IT THROUGH THE U D C GOING FORWARD.
UM, CHANGES LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.
BUT I'M GONNA TRUST AND I'M GONNA VERIFY
'CAUSE WE GOT LITERALLY, SO LET'S SAY YOU TRUST AND VERIFY AND THEY DON'T DO IT.
WHAT YOU GONNA DO THEN? CHANGE THE U D C I.
WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT AS WE GO.
[14.2. Future Agenda Items]
WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE, UH, A LITTLE EARLY AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.A DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MAYOR SCHNEIDER IN CHAPTER 1 71.
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST REGARDING VOTING ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O DASH 2023 DASH 33 IF YOU ALL CAN BRING BACK WHAT THE LEGAL RULES ARE AND ANY KIND OF VIOLATIONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE OCCURRED AND TO HAVE IT IN A PUBLIC SETTING SO WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL GO TO EXECUTIVES.
THAT WAS ON WHICH ONE? THE ONE WE JUST VOTED ON? YEAH.
THEN DID YOU CALL UP 14 TWO? IS THAT, ARE WE DISCUSSING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? YOU CAN PUT 'EM UP.
[12. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
UH, SO WE'LL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE HAVE ITEM 12 ONE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.
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ATTORNEY CONSULTATION TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING JONES V.CITY OF HU, TEXAS PENDING IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, WESTERN DISTRICT, AUSTIN, AUSTIN DIVISION.
ITEM 12 TWO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO PENDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE HUDU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR THE CITY OF HUDU, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MEGASITE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND ITEM 12 THREE RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 RELATED TO PENDING LEGAL REQUESTS, POTENTIAL CLAIMS PENDING LITIGATION, POTENTIAL LITIGATION AND CITY COUNCIL LEGAL REQUESTS.
SO I THOUGHT WE'D BE OUT OF SOONER.
ALRIGHT, BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NEXT ITEMS 13, ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. IS THERE ANYTHING THERE? NO SIR.
14 TWO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THERE? HEARING NONE.
[14.3. Future Additional or Rescheduled meetings as allowed by Hutto City Code Section 1.02.033 Additional or Rescheduled Meetings]
ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULED MEETINGS AS ALLOWED BY HU CITY CODE SECTION 1.0 2.033 ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULED MEETINGS? YEAH, SO I WAS GONNA MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE MOVE THE DECEMBER 21ST TO DECEMBER 14TH SO THAT WE ALLOW, UM, THE SCHOOL BOARD, SCHOOLS AND I S D ARE OUT THE WEEK OF THE, THE 17TH.SO THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES DURING THEIR HOLIDAY WITH THEIR KIDS AND STUFF.
SO I WANNA MOVE THE, THE, THE REGULAR SCHEDULED THIRD THURSDAY FROM THE 21ST TO THE 14TH.
SO I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT.
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A ADDITIONAL OR DOESN'T THAT LET YOU DO IT? BECAUSE THAT'S SAYING THAT'S, YEAH, I THINK YOU CAN JUST VOTE ON IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
YOU SAY YOU WANNA MAKE THAT A MOTION? YEAH.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE DECEMBER 21ST REGULAR SCHEDULED MINI TO, TO BE A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH.
I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK SECOND BY COUNCILMAN THORNTON.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT ORDER WE WERE IN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION? THANK YOU.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER AYE.
QUESTION PASSES THE SEVEN ZERO.
ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR 14 THREE? AYE TIM, WE'LL ADJOURN AT 12:04 AM ON OCTOBER 20TH.