Jan 04, 2024 City Council

[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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MEETING FOR JANUARY 4TH, 2024. WE WILL START WITH ROLLCALL.

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NOTIFICATION? >> THIS IS A ROLLCALL SHEET FOR

YOU. >> REVEREND JOHNNY BROWARD, FROM THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK YOU COUNSEL. LET'S PRAY TOGETHER.

GRACIOUS GOD, AS WE GATHER THIS EVENING, IN THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATION. TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES ENTRUSTED TO US AS MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITIZENS, STAFF, FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS. NURTURING A COMMUNITY THAT THRIVES TOGETHER. DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. IF POLICIES ARE SHAPED. WE ASK FOR YOUR SPIRIT OF WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND UNITY. GRANT US THE INSIDE TO NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF GOVERNMENTS. CLEAR VISION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR CITY. WE ARE SHARING A COMMITMENT TO THE COMMON GOOD. WE SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE AND BLESSING. MAY THIS COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT TO BE A TESTAMENT TO OUR COMMITMENT TO WORK TOGETHER. THIS IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF HUTTO. AMEN.

[5.1. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day Proclamation]

>> NEXT, IF COUNSEL WOULD JOIN AS A FRONT FOR PROCLAMATION.

ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF OUR COMMISSION.

>> IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DAY. THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OF THE 1960S, HAS PROFOUNDLY IMPACTED THE COURSE OF AMERICAN HISTORY. IT CONTINUES TO SHAPE THE DIRECTION AND DEBATE OF OUR SOCIETY. WHEREAS ONE OF THE GREAT LEADERS OF THE 20TH CENTURY MOVEMENT, IS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. HIS NAME IS NO LESS INSPIRATIONAL OR IMPORTANT TODAY THAN WHEN WE FIRST EXPRESSED IT MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO. I APOLOGIZE. EVEN WITH THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OVER THE YEARS, THERE ARE MANY GOALS AND NEEDS TO OBTAIN OUR COMMITMENT, AND TO ACHIEVE JUSTICE. THIS INCLUDES JUSTICE IN THE FACE OF INCREASING EXPERIENCE, REACHING THESE GOALS. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE WITH OPTIMISM INSPIRED BY DR. KING'S LEGACY.

THIS IS FORMED BY HIS WISDOM AND VISION. LET US REDEDICATE OURSELVES TO KEEP HIS DREAM ALIVE, AND BE REMINDED THAT WE ARE UNITED TOGETHER AS ONE COMMUNITY. LOOKING AT THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE CITY OF HUTTO, I HERE BY PROCLAIM JANUARY 15TH, 2024, AS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DAY. I ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO REMEMBER DR. KING'S STRENGTH, PERSISTENCE, DETERMINATION, AND DEVOTION TO SERVING OTHERS.

>> SPEAK? NO? YOU HAVE SOMETHING, BRUCE, RIGHT?

>> I ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

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>> I APPRECIATE THIS TODAY. IT IS A SPECIAL DAY, OBVIOUSLY. I THINK WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THIS COMMISSION. JUST RECENTLY, WE ARE HAVING OTHERS JOIN. I THINK OUR GOAL, OBVIOUSLY, IS TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

PUTTING EVENTS TOGETHER THAT WILL BRING US TOGETHER. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT. WORKING THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK TO CONTINUE THAT POWER. IT HAS BEEN GIVEN WITHIN THIS COMMISSION. I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN USED ENOUGH IN THE PAST. I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE CHANGES THAT WILL SHOW US, AND SHOW HUTTO, OUR INVOLVEMENT. THIS IS WHAT WE

HAVE PUT TOGETHER. >> TANK YOU SIR.

>>

>> RICHARD IS GOING TO GET ANOTHER SET.

>> IT SHOWS THAT IT IS FULL. >> IT IS FULL. OKAY.

[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

>> NEXT, THAT BRINGS US TO THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS WORKING. I WOULD JUST ASSUME THAT IT IS SPECIAL-EFFECTS. MAYOR COUNSEL, FOR THE RECORD, CITY MANAGER, CITIZENS OF HUTTO, WELCOME, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. THANK YOU FOR ALL BEING HERE. LET'S CLAP. THAT'S ALL

RIGHT. >>

>> RAY 2023. LOTS OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING. THESE ARE WHAT MY COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE TROUT IN HUTTO? ONE DAY A YEAR, THEY ARE. THE DERBY IS COMING UP ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD, FROM 9:00 UNTIL NOON. WE WILL COME IN AND STOCK THE PARK POND WITH TROUT. IT IS A FREE FISHING DAY FOR ALL AGES. BRING YOUR KIDS OUT. LET THEM HAVE THE EXCITEMENT OF CATCHING THE LITTLE CHILD. MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO FISH WITH DOG FOOD, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE USED TO BEING FED. I DID NOT GIVE AWAY ALL THE SECRETS, BUT THAT IS PART OF IT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE PRIZES. CHECK THE EVENT CALENDAR. MAKE SURE THAT YOU REGISTER AS FAR AS I KNOW. ARE THEY GOING TO BE GIVING AWAY RODS AND REELS ON THIS ONE? BRING YOUR OWN ROD AND REEL FOR THIS ONE. FINANCE UPDATE. THIS MAY BE HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT WE ARE EXPECTING THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. THE BUDGET CALENDAR HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. WE ARE TRYING TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS IS ON THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER EXERCISE. WE HAVE A SATURDAY EXERCISE WORKSHOP LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR, COMING UP IN THE SPRING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THAT ON THEIR RADAR SO THAT YOU CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. THIS IS ON THE FINANCE SECTION OF THE CITY WEBSITE. WE ARE TRYING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE STAFF, AND THE CITY COUNCIL AS WE ARE BEGINNING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN THE SPRING. IT IS TIME FOR ELECTIONS AGAIN. ANOTHER FUN TIME OF YEAR FOR US. THE FIRST DAY TO REGISTER FOR A VACANCY, OR FOR A POSITION TO BE A CANDIDATE, IS JANUARY 17TH. THAT IS ALL HANDLED THROUGH THE CITY'S SECRETARY. YOU CAN GO TO THE SECRETARY'S WEBSITE. LOOK AT A PORTION OF THE WEBSITE FOR THE ELECTION INFORMATION.

DOWNLOAD THE PACKAGE WHERE YOU WOULD PUT IN YOUR CANDIDACY INFORMATION. THIS IS IN ORDER TO BE MAKING YOUR WAY ONTO THE BALLOT FOR RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL. THAT WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. BOARDS AND COMMISSION VOLUNTEERS, WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE SEEKING VOLUNTEERS. THESE ARE A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE CITIZENS PARTICIPATING. THESE ARE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES. YOU CAN SEE THEM UP THERE RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE CURRENT OPENINGS

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YOU HAVE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. MOST OF THEM HAVE A REGISTERED VOTER. SOME OF THEM ALLOW YOU TO LIVE RIGHT HERE, OR IN THE COUNTY. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS. UNFORTUNATELY. THAT IS THE DOWNSIDE FOR THE COMMISSION AS YOU NEED TO COME. SOME OF THOSE COMMISSIONS ARE QUARTERLY. THEY WILL MEET ONCE A MONTH. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR AVAILABILITY IS, OR WHENEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BOARD COMMISSION, MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN MEET THAT COMMITMENT IF YOU ARE SELECTED READ I AM LOOKING FOR THE PROFESSIONAL RECOGNITION THIS MONTH FROM OUR NEW HIRES. FOLKS THAT ARE JOINING TEAM HUTTO. GOING TO INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR BIO. FIRST, WE HAVE BEEN DRAINING US AS A LIBRARY TO NECK MISSION. -- TECHNICIAN. AMELIA, IS AN AUSTIN NATIVE WITH EXPERIENCE IN A WIDE VARIETY OF LIBRARY SETTINGS READ FIRST JOB AS A TEENAGER, WAS THE CAMPUS LIBRARY FOR AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE. SHE HAS WORKED FOR A PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND A UNIVERSITY LIBRARY. BACHELORS DEGREE IN CREATIVE WRITING AND LITERATURE. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, SHE HAS DECIDED TO LOOK AT BOOKS FROM THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. THEY WERE STARTING TO HAVE GAME NIGHTS FOR ALL OF US. JOIN ME IN WELCOMING AMELIA.

>> FLOREZ. LABORATORY ASSISTANT. ARE YOU HERE? SHE GREW UP IN BRAZIL. SHE GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS DEGREE IN PORTUGUESE. SHE WORKED FOR 15 YEARS AS AN ENGLISH AND PORTUGUESE TEACHER IN A BRAZILIAN PORTUGUESE SCHOOL SYSTEM. WORKING FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES IN AUSTIN BEFORE JOINING US HERE AT TEAM HUTTO. JOIN ME IN WELCOMING CLAUDIA.

NEXT, WE HAVE JAKE ISABEL. THEY ARE JOINING US AS THE ASSISTANT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. THEY WERE SERVING THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE REFER DIFFERENTLY. LOOKING AT THE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY. THEY SERVED AS THE ASSISTANT MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THIS CITY. THIS EARLIER CAREER WAS IN A VARIOUS ROLE SINCE 2012.

INCLUDING AN ELITE PASTOR. THIS GAVE HIM THE IMPACTS OF DISASTERS. THEY ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THEIR NEW OPPORTUNITY, STARTING WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO. WELCOME TO THE TEAM. NEXT, WE HAVE DIANA LEWIS. JOINING US IS A POLICE OFFICER. HERE SHE COMES. SHE IS ALL SMILES. THEY SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 23 YEARS. SHE WAS A MASTERPIECE OFFICER LICENSE AND CERTIFICATIONS AS BASIC INSTRUCTOR, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, AND SCHOOL-BASED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. THEY SPENT MUCH OF THEIR CAREER WORKING WITH JUVENILES. ON THEIR BEHALF, IS THE SCHOOL-BASED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. SHE HAS A PASSION FOR THE RELATIONSHIP THAT SHE HAS BUILT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SHE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING THAT EXPERIENCE AND STRENGTH TO THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHE IS VERY PROUD OF HER DAUGHTER, SON-IN-LAW, AND GRANDSONS. WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE YOU JOIN THE TEAM. I WANT YOU TO HELP ME WELCOME OFFICER LEWIS.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CERTAINLY A LOT OF FANFARE FROM AT LEAST ONE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN SITTING RIGHT HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTRODUCE TO YOU TO EVERYONE, OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR. AFTER A YEAR-LONG SEARCH, AFTER ANOTHER STENT, WE CAME UPON ALL OF THESE. THEY ARE BRINGING OVER THREE DECADES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE EXPERIENCE.

SHE MOST RECENTLY SERVED AS FINANCE DISTRACTOR INSTRUCTOR FOR DEL RIO. WE HAD A LOT OF THE WORDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE ASSOCIATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS READ ALBERTA HAS A BACHELORS DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING, AND A MASTERS DEGREE IN PUBLIC

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PLEASE CLAP. THIS LAST YEAR, IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS. NORMAL SEWER -- NONE MORE SO IN THE CITY OF HUTTO THEN MISS AND. WE ARE THINKING THAT SHE WOULD ONLY BE HERE FOR A FEW MONTHS. FEW MONTHS CANCER BUDGET. THAT CAME THROUGH THE BUDGET FROM THE END OF THE YEAR. HERE WE ARE, MOST AN ENTIRE YEAR SINCE SHE JOINED US IN THE INTERIM ROLE FROM THE CITY OF ARLINGTON. WE RECOGNIZE HER AT THE ANNUAL AWARDS BANQUET AND HOLIDAY BANQUET. WE GAVE HER SOME NICE STUFF. WE HAVE ONE MORE THING TO GIVE YOU.

TONIGHT, IS HER LAST IN-PERSON NIGHT. TOMORROW, SHE IS TRAVELING. SHE'S GOING TO WRAP UP HER DATE REMOTELY. WE JUST FRAMED THIS WONDERFUL PICTURE OF YOUR TEAM TO TAKE WITH YOU.

YOU CAN HANG IT ON THE WALL. YOU CAN THINK BACK ON YOUR TIME HERE IN HIPPO NATION. YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT WITH PRIDE, WARMTH, AND ALL OF THAT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU HAVE DONE. MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, SHE HAS BEEN STAYING IN AIRBNB LOCATIONS, MAKING IT WORK, IN ORDER TO BE HERE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING HER FOR HER COMMITMENT

TO US. >>

>> MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM SIX, SWEARING IN OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. I THINK THE JUDGE IS GOING TO MAKE YOU COME UP

FRONT. >> SORRY. I ALWAYS MAKE PEOPLE STAND UP IN FRONT OF THE BENCH. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS LUCAS WILSON. ON THE PRESIDING JUDGE FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, OR KNOW OF ME. I HAVE BEEN HERE QUITE A WHILE. IT IS ALWAYS MY PRIVILEGE TO SWEARING PEOPLE THAT SERVE WITH US, AND HELP OUT THE CITY. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPEAT AFTER ME, PLEASE. I, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR CONFIRM, THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF HUTTO CITY ATTORNEY. ALSO, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. I WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, OF THE UNITED STATES, AND OF THIS STATE. SO HELP ME GOD.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT REAL QUICK BEFORE SHE IS OFFICIAL.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

[7. PUBLIC COMMENT]

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>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THE LIKE WILL -- LIKE WILL GO GREEN, YELLOW, THEN RED. FIRST

UP. >> HELLO, COUNSEL. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE. ESPECIALLY CITY MANAGER. I HOPE THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD, AND PROPER SEER -- PROPER US YEAR FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. YOU CAN HEAR ME SAY THIS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. I HOPE WE HAVE A WONDERFUL YEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE THREE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

THE FIRST ONE, I HAVE PROVIDED A COPY AND A DVD. THIS GUY PRODUCED IT, AS A PART OF THIS THESIS. THIS IS WHEN HE WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA. HE IS A FILMMAKER. HE DID AN EXCELLENT FILM. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN FILM ON HIPPO.

THIS ONE IS CALLED IN PURSUIT OF HIPPO. IT IS REALLY GOOD. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE FOR CITY AND STAFF TO VIEW IT. SECONDLY, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE UPCOMING BUDGET, AND REMIND YOU ALL THAT OLD TOWN IS STILL NOT GIVING THE LOVE THAT IT DESERVES. I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO, IN IMPROVING THE STREETS, DRAINAGE, LIGHTING, AND SAFETY MEASURES WITHIN OUR LOVELY, OLD TOWN AREA. THE THIRD THING, IS ALSO RELATED TO OLD TOWN. THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE FARMERS MARKET. I HAVE SEEN MANY OF YOU DOWN THERE. I SEE YOU ENJOYING YOURSELVES, BUYING PRODUCTS FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS. IT IS A DELIGHT TO BE ABLE TO WALK DOWN, AND MAYBE EVEN TAKE A DOG WITH YOU. I QUITE OFTEN TAKE MY SON-IN-LAW, AND MY DAUGHTER'S I GO. I WILL S AT ONE OF THE STANDS OVER THERE. ALSO, I CAN GET GREAT TAMALES RIGHT THERE. I CAN GET DIFFERENT GIFTS. I HAVE DIFFERENT FOOD THAT I PROBABLY WOULD NOT EXPERIENCE OTHERWISE, FROM JAMAICA, AND THE MIDDLE EAST. IT IS A GREAT THING TO HAVE IN HUTTO. I REALLY THINK THAT NOT ONLY SHOULD WE SUPPORT IT, BUT WE SHOULD NOT BURDEN IT. WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO EXIST IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ALL LOVE AND ENJOY IT HERE IN HUTTO. THE FARMERS MARKET, IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GROWN IN THIS TOWN. IT IS REALLY GOOD. IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER IF WE DON'T OVERBURDEN IT WITH ORDINANCES, AND OTHER FEES.

THEY MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO DO BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE. I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE TO SUPPORT THE FARMERS MARKET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> NEXT? >> I AM JUST SPEAKING TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS BOARD. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE REIMBURSEMENT OF THE PARK DEDICATION. IMPROVE THE FUNDING MONEY THAT WAS USED TO KICKSTART THIS PROJECT. $1.2 MILLION. I DON'T THINK THAT MONEY WAS EVER INTENDED TO BE A PERMANENT PART OF THE PROJECT.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO REIMBURSE THAT MONEY. THIS MONEY IS VITAL FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS. THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT ARE BEING FUNDED THIS YEAR OUT OF THAT FUND. THIS INCLUDES THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN, AND THE ATHLETIC FEASIBILITY. THIS IS THE TRAIL EXTENSION. WE HAVE THE TRAIL EXPANSION FROM THE CREEKSIDE. PICKLE BALL COURTS, ANOTHER

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FROM THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, WE HAVE SUSAN. AND I SAY THAT RIGHT? IS SUSAN HERE? COME ON UP.

>> OKAY. >> NEXT, WE HAVE RONALD. AM I SAYING YOUR NAME RIGHT? NEXT, WE HAVE MITCHELL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY TIME TO ASIA AWARD.

>> LET'S DO THIS. I'M GOING TO WAIT ON YOU. IS ANYONE ELSE GOING TO YIELD HER TIME TO BRANDY THOMPSON? I'M SORRY? THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE THAT IS GOING TO YIELD? OKAY. IF THOMPSON COULD COME UP. THAT WAY, I'M GOING TO MISS SOMEBODY.

>> EIGHT TO 10 AGAIN. >> MY NAME IS BRANDY THOMPSON.

I AM THE OWNER OF COZY CANNABIS HERE IN HUTTO. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FARMERS MARKET. MY FIRST LOCATION OPENED UP SIX YEARS AGO. THIS IS WHERE THE MOUNTAIN COOKIES IS. I'M DOWNTOWN ON THE LOT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, REGARDING THE FARMERS MARKET. THE REASON I WAS ABLE TO OPEN A STOREFRONT ON MY OWN, WAS BECAUSE MY DAD LOANED ME $20,000. THE REASON I SAY THAT, IS TO SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MYSELF, AND SOME OF THESE VENDORS THAT ARE COMING TO THIS MARKET. SOMEBODY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. I HAD THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO OPEN A STOREFRONT. I WAS ABLE TO TAKE THAT $20,000, AND PASS BY. A LOT CAN COME OUT OF JUST A SMALL OPPORTUNITY. A LOT OF THAT MONEY AND REVENUE COMES FROM THE GEORGETOWN LOCATION, AND BEING DOWNTOWN IN THE SQUARE. TO START OFF, I WANT TO SEE THE ONE THING THAT FRUSTRATED ME, WAS WATCHING THE MEETING THAT HAD BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT RECENTLY, AND IN THE FARMERS MARKET. YOU SAID THAT YOU SPOKE WITH MOST OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS, AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WERE IN THE FARMERS MARKET. YOU DID NOT SPEAK TO MYSELF AND THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS THAT I HAVE SPOKE WITH. WE DID NOT TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. WITH THE ONE THAT YOU DID MENTION, I AM ASSUMING FROM WHAT WAS SAID, THAT IT IS REGARDING A LOSS OF CELLS, OR LOWER REVENUE ON THOSE DAYS THAT THE MARKET, ESPECIALLY THE WEDNESDAY MARKET, IS BEING BROKEN UP. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SATURDAY MARKET THAT IS NOT BEING BROUGHT UP. I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS JUST THAT SATURDAYS ARE BUSIER. SO FAR, WE HAVE BEEN UNWILLING TO ASK THEM FOR THE DATA TO PROVE THAT THE REVENUE IS DOWN ON WEDNESDAYS. I TOOK SOME TIME TO LOOK THROUGH MY DATA. TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ARE JUST SLOWER DAYS. SOME WEDNESDAYS GET REALLY PICKED UP IN THE EVENINGS. I ALSO LOOKED AT GEORGETOWN. IT DOES NOT HAVE A WEDNESDAY NIGHT MARKET.

TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ARE SLOWER DAYS. SOMETHING TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, WHEN WE ARE COMPARING IT TO OTHER DAYS. I JUST WANT TO SAY IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT LOSS OF REVENUE, BUT YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS, I'M LOOKING AT MARKETING, AND PROFIT EQUATIONS. THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT, ARE THE NUMBER OF LEADS THAT I CONVERT INTO CUSTOMERS. ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THESE MARKETS, ARE ACTUALLY JUST PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS. THEY ARE PROSPECTIVE

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INSTEAD OF GETTING RID OF BUSINESSES, WE SHOULD BE BRINGING MORE DOWN TO THE OLD DISTRICT. THIS IS BEHIND. WE SHOULD FILL THAT WITH MORE SHOPPING, AND MORE EXPERIENTIAL THINGS WERE PEOPLE CAN COME. NOT JUST TO STOP AT ONE PLACE.

MULTIPLE STORES IN ONE TIME. NOT TO BE UGLY, BUT BLESSED THAT WE JUST GAVE THIS A GOLD MINE. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WINERY, OR A NICE, DINING RESTAURANT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND COLLABORATE. WE SHOULD DO SOME KIND OF FLOWER ARRANGEMENT. THEN WE SHOULD GO TO DINNER. THERE NEEDS TO BE COLLABORATION. IF WE CONTINUE TO ISOLATE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE ARE REALLY GOING TO START OUR OWN GROWTH. THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF IT, AND HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. SALES TAX WAS MENTIONED. I LOOKED UP THAT THEY TOLD ME THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE ON THE WEBSITE. YOU CAN DIFFERENTIATE WHAT COUNTY YOU ARE IN. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TAXES. I RESPECT THAT. I POINT OUT THAT I DO BIG CONCERTS. I HAVE DONE ALL OF HIS CONCERTS. RAISING $20,000 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. ALL OF THAT MONEY CAME TO HUTTO. THEY DON'T ASK ME TO DO ANYTHING WITH MY SALES TAX. HEALTH CONCERNS, I WILL BACK YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. I HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE THREE MARKETS THAT ARE ON THAT LOT. ANY TYPE OF HEALTH CONCERNS OR REGULARIZATION THAT I WOULD TOTALLY STAND BEHIND, MAKE SURE YOU ARE DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SAFE. I CHARGE THEM A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEY CHARGE THE VENDORS. IF THEY CHARGE NOTHING TO THEIR VENDORS, I CHARGE THEM NOTHING TO USE MY LAND. I CHARGE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY. I'M TRYING TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY. IT IS BRINGING PEOPLE INTO MY STORE. I ALLOW THEM TO USE MY RESTROOM. I TELL MY EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TOILET PAPER. EVERY PERSON THAT WALKS IN THE DOOR IS A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER. MAYBE THEY DON'T BUY SOMETHING THAT DAY.

IF WE ARE SUPER GOOD TO THEM, THEY ARE GOING TO GO TALK ABOUT IT. WORD-OF-MOUTH IS HUGE. THAT IS WHY MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL. IN CLOSING, I WILL BE HONEST. AS A PERSON WHO HAS NO INTEREST IN THE DRAMA OF THIS TOWN, IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT HAS SOME HIGH SCHOOL BULLYING FROM WATCHING THAT VIDEO. WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO LOOK AT ANY DOWNTOWN MEETING OUT OF HUTTO. IF THE CURRENT SYSTEM CANNOT FIND THE ENERGY OR CREATIVITY TO PROFIT OFF OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND GROW, THEN LET SOMEONE IN WHO CAN. THAT IS

ALL I HAVE GOT. THANK YOU. >>

>> MITCHELL, YOU SAID YOU ARE GIVING YOUR TIME TO WHO?

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>> WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, MA'AM? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? CAN YOU

COME UP? >> HELLO, COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE DECEMBER 14 WORKGROUP RECORDING THAT I WATCHED ONLINE. I LIVE AND VOTE IN HUTTO. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN IN HUTTO. MY HUSBAND WHO WAS RAISED HERE, IS NOW A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER ON E STREET. I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW HE WAS EXTREMELY PROUD TO COME BACK HOME TO START HIS FIRST BUSINESS. I WAS RAISED IN A SMALL AGRICULTURAL TOWN IN MY OWN COUNTY. IT IS THE NEXT COUNTY OVER. I HAVE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE PASSING THROUGH HUTTO, AND EATING BURGERS .

THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD GO AND GET ONE. I WILL GO ON RECORD AND SAY IT IS STILL THE BEST ONE DOWNTOWN. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF WHERE WE COME FROM. WE ARE HONORED THAT THE COMMUNITY HERE HAS WELCOMED MY HUSBAND'S BUSINESS. BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY, WE DO OUR BEST TO STAY INVOLVED. PART OF THAT IS THAT I KEEP UP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDAS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE KIDS, A SMALL BUSINESS, PLUS MY OWN CAREER THAT WE WORK AT FULL-TIME, I CANNOT ATTEND IN PERSON. I AM JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE STAYING IN THE LOOP. WHEN I WATCHED THE SAID TO DECEMBER 14TH WORKGROUP RECORDING, WE WERE TAKING INTEREST. I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE DOWNTOWN. WE DO THE SAME FOR THEM. THE TACO TRUCK YOU MADE SURE TO BRING A CONTAINS AFTER THE BIRTH OF OUR SON. WE KNEW THAT WE LOVE THEM. THAT IS COMMUNITY. HEARING SOME OF THE RHETORIC, WAS TROUBLESOME. IT QUICKLY DEVOLVED TO LIKE THE STATEMENTS AS TO WHO DEVOLVES INTO BEING DOWNTOWN OR NOT. IT IS JUSTIFIED, OR IT ISN'T.

THERE IS ACE DEEP INSINUATION THAT SOME PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AT THE GAME. THIS IS A BOLD STATEMENT TO MAKE ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THEY LIVE, WORK, VOTE, AND HAVE KIDS HERE TOO.

THIS IS NOT LIKE THE COMMUNITY THAT I GREW UP IN. I WATCH THEM TIRELESSLY WORKED TO PRODUCE ENDS MEET. THEY CANNOT PRODUCE ENOUGH FOR THE MONOPOLIZED GROCERY STORE. THEY COULD NOT FOR THE BRICK-AND-MORTAR. THEY DID NOT DEPEND ON SMALL FARMS TO MAKE IT WORK. BECAUSE I GREW UP WATCHING THE COMMUNITY, I WENT TO GRADUATE SCHOOL TO PURSUE A DEGREE IN SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURAL POLICY. WHEN I HEAR MY CITY COUNCIL CALLING MY LOCAL FARMERS MARKET INTO QUESTION, AND QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR VENDORS WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE, OR ANY REPRESENTATION FROM THE FARMERS MARKET PRESIDENT, I HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS. THE WEDNESDAY MARKET IS SOMETHING THAT MY KIDS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO. WEDNESDAY IS AN EXTREMELY SLOW DAY DOWNTOWN.

WHEN HE CLOSES HIS SHOP ON THAT DAY, IT HAS REALLY STARTED AS A GREAT WAY TO GET FOLKS DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY MAY NOT USUALLY GO.

IT IS GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET LOCAL PRODUCERS, AND FORM ANOTHER GREAT COMMUNITY. I AM HERE FOR THE FARMERS MARKET.

THIS IS WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THEM. WHETHER THAT IS DOWNTOWN, THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO INCLUDE ALL STAKEHOLDERS, AND NOT JUST A SMALL, SELECT GROUP OF BUSINESSES. MAKING DECISIONS, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE WITH NO INPUT. THIS IS WHAT I SAW IN THE DECEMBER 14TH

WORKGROUP GRADE THANK YOU. >>

>> NEXT, WE HAVE KELLAN DARK. >> I GIVE MY TIME.

>> I'M SORRY? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT IS YIELDING TIME?

>> TOTALS YIELDING TO CHRIS. NEXT, WE HAVE CHRIS.

>> HELLO. I'M A VENDOR AT THE FARMERS MARKET HERE IN HUTTO.

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THAT WAS STRUGGLING. WE MADE PICKLES AND HONEY. TODAY, WE CONTINUE MAKING THOSE PRODUCTS AS WELL. WE ALSO BRING THEM TO THE FARMERS MARKET. 2018, I BROUGHT OUT MY BUSINESS PARTNER 100%. EXCUSE ME. I AM THE FULL OWNER OF THE COMPANY. THIS IS FROM 2020 ONWARD. I GOT MARRIED TO MY WONDERFUL WIFE. YOU JUST MET HER. WE PURCHASE OF HIGH FROM TEXAS CAKE, WE GOT A PIE.

2021, WE HAD OUR FIRST CHILD. THEY ARE BACK HERE IN THE STROLLER RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHEN SHE WAS BORN. THEY CAME TO VISIT. SHE HELPED COVER THE FARMERS MARKET FOR US. WE DIRECTED THEM TO DINE AT THE TEXAS CAFE. THE HALL OF FAME AS WELL. 2022, WE BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE. OCCASIONALLY, WE STILL DRIVE OUT HERE TO EAT DINNER, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES. 2023, OUR SECOND DAUGHTER WAS BORN. SHE IS ALSO BACK THERE EATING DINNER. TODAY, WE ARE HURTING FOR STAFF LIKE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY. WE MANAGED TO KEEP 10 TO 12 FARMERS MARKETS A WEEK. THIS HELPS KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE FESTIVALS WHERE WE CAN RESTRENGTHEN OUR BUSINESS WITH AN ONLINE SHOP GRADE WE ARE IN 65 RIGHT NOW. RECENTLY, WE LAUNCHED ON AMAZON. THE STOREFRONT CARRIES ABOUT 17 OTHER LOCAL PRODUCTS FROM THE FARMERS MARKETS. THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHERE WE HAVE MET. WE HAVE OTHER GREAT VENDORS. WE WORK TOGETHER TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER, AS WELL AS THE ELEGANT FARMERS MARKET. IT HAPPENS TO BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR STORE. ABOUT A BLOCK AND A HALF. WE WERE LOOKING AT BOTH DIRECTIONS. WE SENT THEM TO THE FARMERS MARKET. WE ARE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THESE

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WE GET UNOFFICIAL VISITS FROM USDA, STATE AND FEDERAL. WITHIN WORKING, THE FARMERS MARKETS ARE A LOT MORE WORK THAN PEOPLE THINK. A GOOD WEEK IS PROBABLY 55 HOURS. I HAD ONE WEEK THIS YEAR, 99 HOURS. YOU JUST CAN'T FIND HELP. THAT IS REALLY IT.

IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO GO OUT TO THE FARMERS MARKET. YOU HAVE TO SET EVERYTHING UP, PUT IT ALL TOGETHER JUST RIGHT IN THE CAR. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. GO TO THE MARKET, SET IT UP. TERRY DOWN. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK, RESET, DO IT AGAIN. SOMETIMES, MORE IN ONE DAY. MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE LOOKED AT EXPANDING TO OTHER TOWNS THAT SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. WE HAVE ACTUALLY GONE PAST HUTTO AS WELL IN THIS DIRECT AREA.

WE ARE QUICKLY OUTGROWING THE PHYSICAL ASPECTS. WE WILL NEED A PLACE FOR OUR DISTRIBUTION. TO CLOSE AND REITERATE, THIS IS OUR LIVELIHOOD. THIS IS MANY OF OUR FRIENDS LIVELIHOODS. WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY AND HOME FROM OUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. WE HAVE ONE MORE FARMERS

MARKET. >>

>> NEXT, I'M SORRY? >> OKAY.

>> ANYONE ELSE THAT IS YIELDING TIME? WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME? OWN THE COFFEE SHOP. I CURRENTLY RUN MY BUSINESS OUT OF MY HOME. I'M JUST OVER ONE YEAR OLD. I HAVE A WIFE, FOUR KIDS, SORRY, I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL. BEFORE OWNING MY OWN COMPANY, I WAS A FORENSIC TOXICOLOGIST IN AUSTIN. I HAD TO RESIGN FROM MY POSITION, BECAUSE MY WIFE'S HEALTH HAS DECLINED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I NEED TO BE MORE AVAILABLE TO HER. I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE HER TO DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS. I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO HELP HER TO THE RESTROOM. SHE GETS VERY WEAK VERY OFTEN. I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DROP ANYTHING I'M DOING IN ORDER TO GO TO HOSPITALS, BECAUSE OF WHERE SHE HAS SPENT MOST OF LAST YEAR. SHE SPENT MORE TIME THAN AT HOME. I HAD TO TAKE CONTROL OF MY OWN DESTINY. I HAD TO OWN A BUSINESS. I HAVE A PASSION FOR COFFEE. I LOVE ROASTING IT. I LOVE MAKING IT. I MAKE VERY GOOD COFFEE. THE ONLY PLACE THAT I CAN START MY BUSINESS OUT AT, IS THE FARMERS MARKET. WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY LOVE THEIR COFFEE. I HAVE TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT I CAN. I ONLY RUN FOUR MARKETS A WEEK. THAT'S THE ONLY MARKET THAT I CAN GET INTO AT THIS POINT. I AM DOING THIS ALL AT MY OWN. I ROAST, PACKAGE, LABEL, AND SET UP AT ALL MARKETS. I DRIVE TO

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I WENT STRAIGHT DOWN TO WORK VERY EASILY. I FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS TOWN. I RECENTLY MOVED INTO A HUTTO PROPERTY.

THIS IS WHERE I MET MY WIFE. SHE IS A TEACHER. WE MOVED TO THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS. FIVE YEARS AGO, I MOVED INTO HUTTO PROPER. I LIKE THAT WE ARE EXPANDING. I ALSO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE SMALL-TOWN FEEL, AS WE EXPAND. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE EVERYWHERE, STRUGGLES WITH THIS. GEORGETOWN AND ROUND ROCK, HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF MAINTAINING THEIR DOWNTOWNS. THIS IS A LITTLE, SMALL-TOWN FEEL. THEY HAVE GOTTEN INTO HUGE CITIES. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TOO. A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS THIS FARMERS MARKET. I PLAN WITHIN THIS NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE MY BUSINESS HAS ACTUALLY GROWN VERY QUICKLY THIS YEAR, THAT I'M SURPRISED HOW FAST MY BUSINESS HAS GROWN. JUST DOING FOUR MARKETS A WEEK, I PLAN ON HAVING A BRICK AND MORTAR IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. I COULD EASILY GO TO ROUND ROCK. THE RENT IS WAY CHEAPER. THE MONEY IS WAY BETTER. HOPEFULLY NOT FOR LONG. I WANT TO STAY HERE IN HUTTO. I HAVE IDEAS. I'M GOING TO DO IT. I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THESE COTTAGE FOOD LAWS, AND I'M GOING TO BE HUTTO'S PREMIER COFFEE ROASTER HE. I ACTUALLY HAVE A HIPPO BLEND THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME TO THE MARKETS FROM THE STATE OF MAINE, AND WANTED TO SEND OFF THE HIPPO BLEND TO THE FAMILY, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE HAS THEM.

THEY WERE SENDING IT OFF AS PRIDE. THEY COULD SEND THIS HUDDLE -- HUTTO COFFEE INTO THE STATE OF MAINE. YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR MAYBE A LOT OF ANGER, OR FEAR. THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM A LOT OF THE VENDORS TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT MEETING, AND WHAT WE WERE HEARING. I'M NOT HERE TO DO THAT. I'M HERE FOR CONCERN. CONCERN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT TO BE ANGRY AT THE CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO. AS RESIDENTS, WE SHOULD BE LIFTING EACH OTHER UP DURING THESE HARD, ECONOMIC TIMES. NOT POINTING FINGERS, AND BLAMING OTHERS FOR FAILING BUSINESS POLICIES. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, IS COLLABORATING. WHY IS MY BUSINESS HAVING TROUBLE? TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE. GET IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. I HAVE BECOME GOOD FRIENDS WITH THE COFFEE BASED OUT OF TAYLOR. THEIR OWNER IS A GREAT GUY. WE MAKE EXACTLY THE SAME PRODUCT. WE HAVE SLIGHT DISCUSSIONS. HE HAS GIVEN ME SO MANY TIPS ON HOW TO INCREASE MY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, HOW TO GET OUT THERE AND REACH MORE CUSTOMERS. WITH MY SCIENCE BACKGROUND, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HIM WITH EXTRA KNOWLEDGE ON ACTUALLY HOW TO ROAST COFFEE. WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COFFEE BEAN. EVERYTHING THAT COULD GO ALONG WITH IT. THIS IS MAKING BOTH OF OUR PRODUCTS BETTER. AS WE TALKED AND COLLABORATE, WE BOTH LIFT EACH OTHER'S BUSINESSES UP. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TECHNICALLY COMPETING. I JUST WANT TO BE THAT. HE WANTS TO BE A COFFEE SHOP. WE ARE DIVERGING IN OUR BUSINESSES. WE ARE DEFINITELY IMPROVING EACH OTHER. JUST BECAUSE I OPERATE A BUSINESS OUT OF MY OWN HOME UNDER COTTAGE FOOD LAW, MY MAIN OUTLET IS POP-UPS, FARMERS MARKETS, DOES NOT MAKE MY BUSINESS LESS LEGITIMATE. WE ALL HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE, AND I CHOSE A PRODUCT THAT DID

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HERE IN HUTTO. THANK YOU. >>

>> WHO IS YIELDING TIME TO JOSEPH? HERE WE GO. MY NAME IS JOSEPH CORTEZ, I'M A HUTTO BUSINESS OWNER, HOMEOWNER, AND NATIVE TEXAS. I'M ALSO A CO-OWNER OF HUTTO FARMERS' MARKET. A FEW MONTHS AGO I STOOD NEXT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU AS WE PROCLAIMED NATIONAL FARMERS' MARKET WEEK RIGHT HERE IN HUTTO IN CITY HALL. MAYOR SNYDER, THROUGH SOME DATA POINTS ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF A THRIVING FARMERS' MARKET LIKE OURS, PROVIDING ACCESS TO LOCALLY PRODUCED FOODS, SUPPORTING SMALL AND NEW BUSINESSES, EDUCATING OUR YOUTH ON THE IMPORTANCE OF AGRICULTURE JUST TO NAME A FEW. BY THE WAY, HUTTO IS AN AGRICULTURE CITY AND HOW WE STARTED, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE EVEN INVITED THE MAYOR TO COME TO SPEAK, COMMENTING ON HOW HE WOULD LOVE TO HELP US GROW. WE APPRECIATED THAT. ON FACEBOOK SAYING LOTS OF GREAT VENDORS, A LOT OF GREAT VENDORS WITH A BUNCH OF UNIQUE LOCAL PRODUCTS. YOU GOT TO CHECK THESE PEOPLE OUT EVERY WEDNESDAY. IT WAS AWESOME KNOWING OUR MAYOR CARED ABOUT OUR EFFORTS. SO THEN WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE. IN 2021, MY WIFE AND I STARTED A BUSINESS, HUTTO SOAP AND KETTLE COMPANY. COMPLETELY BOOT STRAPPED. WE JUST BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2020 HERE IN HUTTO, AND WE BOTH WORKED FULL TIME. ANY EXTRA MONEY WAS INVESTED INTO OUR NEW BUSINESS, SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, UTILITIES, ETC. WE APPLIED FOR OUR SALES TAX CERTIFICATE THROUGH THE CONTROLLER AND HAVE BEEN COLLECTING REMEDIATING SALES TAX SINCE DAY ONE. A FEW MONTHS LATER, WE SAW THE HUTTO FARMS' MARKET WAS TAKING PLACE. AFTER SOME DELIBERATION, WE JUMPED IN HEAD FIRST, PARTICIPATED IN OUR FIRST EVER FARMERS' MARKET. FROM THE THRILL OF MEETING THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS SUCH A FULFILLING EXPERIENCE. BY THE WAY, WE MADE $60, AND WE WERE HAPPY WITH THAT. WE BEGAN VOLUNTEERING AT THE MARKET, WHERE WE SAW HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THIS MARKET HAD ON PEOPLES LIVES AS YOU HAVE ALL HEARD, FAMILIES LIVES. COVID WAS STILL ON EVERYBODY'S MINDS AND TIMES WERE TOUGH. EASE BUSINESSES DEPENDED ON THE MARKET TO GET THEM OVER THAT FINANCIAL HUMP. FOR MANY IT WAS JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE IT TO THE NEXT WEEK. IT WAS DURING THIS TIME THAT WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS GOOD. AT THE END OF 2022, THE PERSON ORGANIZING THE MARKET, WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM LATER ACTUALLY, SHE TOLD US THAT SHE CAN CONTINUE AND REQUIRED A LOT OF TIME WHERE WE WERE JOINED BY OUR FELLOW BUSINESS OWNERS, AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORS WHO NOW HAD ACCESS TO HEALTHIER FOODS AND LOCAL, QUALITY PRODUCTS. SOME OF THEM ARE STILL HERE WITH US TODAY. WE COULDN'T JUST LET THIS MARKET FIZZLE OUT, SO WE STEPPED UP AND GAVE IT ALL THAT WE HAD. WHY? BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDED IT AND DESERVED IT, WE EACH SPENT OVER 700 HOURS DOWNTOWN HUTTO, MEETING NEIGHBORS, SHARING STORIES, MAKING FRIENDS, LIVING HEALTHIER, DOING LIFE TOGETHER. WE WERE OUT THERE SWEATING OUR BUTTS OFF. WE HAD WATER FOR EVERYBODY TO STAY HYDRATED.

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THERE IS A WAY FOR ALL TO CO-EXIST! MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS WE ARE COEXISTING. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GOING GREAT. FOR BUT I MOVED ON. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE THAT THE FARMERS MARKET WAS MENTIONED. I KEPT MY EARS TO THE GROUND. THURSDAY COMES AROUND, THE WORK SESSION HAPPENS, THEN THE COUNCIL MEETING HAPPENS AFTERWARDS AND I'M NOTIFIED BY THE CITIZEN IN ATTENDANCE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.

NOT ONLY WERE THE CONCERNS UNSUBSTANTIATED AND FALSE, BUT INFLAMMATORY AND DAMAGING. DAMAGING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE DEVOTED YEARS TO BUILD, AND THE WORK SESSION, MAYOR SNYDER ASKED ASHLEY BAILEY TO MODIFY THE DEFINITION OF A MOBILE FOOD UNIT, WHICH IS A STATE DEFINED TERM, PURSUANT TO THE STATUE TITLE VI AFTER 437. THE MAYOR'S REASONING IS BECAUSE UNFAIR BRICK AND MORTARS FOR THE FARMERS MARKET VENDOR TO COMPETE WITH THEM. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED, THAT THEY SELL TEA AT THE FARMERS MARKET. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENT THAT WANTS TO OPEN A BRICK AND MORTAR? SHOULD WE CLASSIFY HIM AS A MOBILE FOOD VENDOR, SO HE HAS MORE ORDINANCES? BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES, THEY WERE NOT RANDOMLY SELECTED TO OPERATE. THEY WERE NOT FORCED TO OPEN THE STORE FRONT. THIS WAS THEIR CHOICE. THIS IS THEIR CHOICE TO PAY FOR HIGHER OVERHEAD. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IF I WERE FORCED TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR AND CAME UP UPON $100,000 TO DO SO, I WOULDN'T BE BLAMING A FOUR-HOUR BUSINESS. I WOULD BLAME MY POOR PLANNING DECISION AND BUSINESS PLANNING. ANOTHER POINT BROUGHT UP BY THE MAYOR WAS, "I SPOKE WITH NEARLY EVERY BUSINESS THAT SELLS SOMETHING ON E STREET, AND I DON'T THINK A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WANTS THE FARMERS MARKET THERE." ALSO FALSE CLAIM AS YOU'LL BE HEARING TODAY. THE MAYOR DIDN'T TALK TO THE GENERAL STORE, INSPIRED INK, E STREET PIZZERIA, THE LAM POST PIZZA, MATE YOUR DIDN'T TALK TO E STREET TATTOO, HE DIDN'T TALK TO FROSTIES OR MARIOS OR THE SALON. WE ALL HAVE A VOICE HERE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE, WE WENT OUT AND WE TALKED TO EACH OF THESE PEOPLE AND GUESS WHAT THEY ALL SAID? THEY AFFIRM OUR PRESENCE DOWNTOWN AND THEY WELCOMED US. IN FACT THE OWNER OF COOKIES, CUPCAKES, AND MORE SAID SHE WOULD LOOK OUT HER WINDOW ON WEDNESDAY AND KNOW TO EXPECT MORE FOOT TRAFFIC. SHE SELLS COOKIES. SHE'S BEEN HERE. BY THE WAY, THE PREVIOUS OWNER, THE FIRST OWNER WHO STARTED THAT, SHE STARTED AT A FARMERS MARKET. IT RECENTLY CHANGED OWNERSHIP, BUT THAT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM AND THAT IS HOW BUSINESS WORKS. THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP. MAYOR, YOU SAID YOU MET WITH HENRIQA, YOU MET AT LAMP POST COFFEE. EVERY PARKING LOT WAS FULL. E STREET PIZZA WAS DEAD. COFFEE PLACE WAS DEAD. THAT'S THE WEDNESDAY WE WEREN'T EVEN DOWNTOWN, SO PERHAPS THAT WAS DEAD BECAUSE WE WEREN'T THERE, WE WERE AT THE CHURCH DUE TO FLOODING FROM THE CITY'S EVENT. SO I DON'T APPRECIATE TRYING TO FEAR MONGER PEOPLE BELIEVING WEDNESDAY IS DAMAGING BUSINESSES. SO GOING SO FAR AS TO MAKE CLAIMS WHEN WE WEREN'T EVEN THERE. WE'RE HAVING AN ASSOCIATION DOWNTOWN HUTTO WHO CLAIMS THEY WANT A THRIVING DOWNTOWN TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. THEY WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE. THEY WANT TO USE THE CHAMBER'S RESOURCES. IN FACT THE DOWNTOWN HUTTO BUSINESS ASSOCIATION HAS EVEN APPROACHED US, ASKING US TO MOVE OUR MARKET AND CLOSE THE STREETS IN FARLEY, SO THEY COULD GET SOME OF OUR FOOT TRAFFIC. THIS IS IN JULY. WE SAID NO BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME WE USED THE CITY-OWNED PARKING LOT IN APRIL, ONE OF THE BUSINESSES COMPLAINED TO ME. THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME, BY THE WAY, IN TWO YEARS THEY EVER REACHED OUT. THEY TOLD ME THEY HATED THE FARMERS MARKET FOR KILLING THEIR BUSINESS. IT WAS SO DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR WHEN WE SEE THEM EVERY WEEK GO TO THE MARKET TO THEIR BUSINESS, AND SEVERAL VENDORS USED TO EAT THERE AS YOU HEARD BEFORE OR AFTERWARDS. AND ANOTHER CLAIM WAS PEOPLE ARE BLOWING UP THEIR

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AS YOU HEARD, BRANDY SAY NOW WE USE HER RESTROOM. WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HER, AND EVERYTHING IS FINE THERE. SO OUR VENDORS ARE TAKING UP ALL THE PARKING IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT, ALSO UNTRUE. OUR VENDORS PARK ON THE LOT, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE EMPLOYEES DOWNTOWN PARK IN THE PARKING LOT. RELATIVELY THAT IS NOT SOMETHING ANY SMALL BUSINESS SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR. WHERE SHE NO CONTROL OVER THE PARKING. WE RELY ON THE CITY TO ADDRESS THAT. SO AFTER WE DECLINED THEIR QUESTION, THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, WE CARRIED ON. TO THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT DONE A SINGLE THING TO INHIBIT THESE BUSINESSES. WE HAVE ONLY TAKEN THEM INTO CONSIDERATION AND BROUGHT TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN EVERY WEEK. WE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN MARKETING AND ADVERTISING TO BRING CUSTOMERS FROM ALL OVER CENTRAL TEXAS. SO THE DECEMBER 14 SESSION, WHY IS THERE SUCH AN IMMENSE URGENCY FOR THE MAYOR TO SHUT DOWN THE MARKET? THAT IS WHAT REGULATING AND INHIBITING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES WILL DO. WHY WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OR DATA IS THE MAYOR SO ANXIOUS TO FAVOR THE MINORITY? WHY WERE SO MANY FALSE STANDARDS BEING MADE WITHOUT REPRESENTATION? I CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE OF IT. WE HAVE A PETITION HERE WITH OVER 400 PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OVER 300 OF THEM BEING HUTTO RESIDENTS AND VOTERS. THIS IS ALSO DONE IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING.

WHEN WE FOUND OUT BECAUSE NOBODY APPROACHED US. NOT A SINGLE BUSINESS, NOT A SINGLE CITY PERSON. MY FAMILY IS NATIVE AMERICAN. BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS WERE ENTREPRENEUR WHO DID ALL THEY COULD TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR KIDS. MY GRANDPA WAS A SKILL WELDER KNOWN THROUGHOUT HIS COMMUNITY WORKING FROM HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I WAS PROUD TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A PIECE OF HIS WORK TO REMEMBER HIM BY. HE MADE ME A BARBECUE GRILL OUT OF A WATER HEATER. IT WAS THE LAST ONE HE MADE BEFORE HE PASSED IN 2020. MY OTHER GRANDPA HAS HAD SEVERAL SMALL BUSINESSES HE STARTED AFTER HIS SERVICE IN THE NAVY FROM RUNNING HIS OWN DOG TRAINING COMPANY. HE FOUGHT FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM. HIS NAME IS GALLEGOS JR. HE PASSED AWAY THIS MORNING AT 2:00 A.M., BUT I HAVE HIS BUSINESS SPIRIT, AND I WILL STAND FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM, AND FREE ENTERPRISE FOR ALL PEOPLE. SO WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE.

AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, AS VOTERS, AS BUSINESS OWNERS, WILL YOU SUPPORT WHAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON? WILL YOU USE YOUR VOICE TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT HUTTO? FOR US, HERE TODAY AND BEYOND IN THIS PETITION, WE WILL USE OUR VOICE TO SPEAK UP AT THE BALLOTS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT WE HAVE TERESA GARCIA.

>> MY TIME IS BEING YIELDED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT IS YIELDING THEIR TIME TO DANIELLA? CHARLES CRAWFORD?

OKAY. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS DANIELLA.

I'M A NATIVE TEXAN, HUTTO RESIDENT, AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET HAS BEEN PRIVATELY OWNED AND MANAGED SINCE THE SUMMER OF 2021. I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL AND PROUD TO HAVE SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER TO NOW ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET. THIS PAST YEAR THE GOAL HAS BEEN TO EDUCATE, INSPIRE, AND ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PROVIDE A FAIR AND SUPPORTIVE PLACE FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO COME AND BRING THEIR HOME GROWN AND HOMEMADE GOODS TO THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE HOSTED A VARIETY OF FUN AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS, A SENSORY EARTH DAY OCEAN CLEANUP, FOSSIL HUNTING, NATIVE GARDENING, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS, AND WORLD HIPPO DAY TO NAME A FEW. AS I'M SURE YOU WILL ALL REMEMBER THIS PAST AUGUST WAS OUR FIRST TIME REQUESTING A CITY PROCLAMATION IN HONOR OF NATIONAL FARMERS MARKET WEEK. JUST FIVE MONTHS AGO. SEVERAL OF US GATHERED TO COME TO CITY HALL AND CELEBRATE THIS PROCLAMATION. WE WERE GLAD THEY CAME TO THE FARMERS MARKET THEY CAME AS A DISHEARTENING FARMERS MARKET AND SHOCKING TO HEAR SO MANY INACCURATE

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YET SO MUCH TIME WAS SPENT DISCUSSING THE HUTTO'S FARMERS MARKET. ONCE WE GOT ACCESS TO THE DECEMBER 14 WORKSHOP, IT WAS JUST SHOCKING. SHOCKING TO HEAR A LIST OF CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T FREQUENT THE MARKET VERY OFTEN ISSUE.

SHOCKING TO HEAR A GROUP OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DISCUSSED HOW THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD FIX THESE CONCERNS WHEN NO INPUT WAS SOUGHT FROM THE HUTTO'S FARMERS MARKET. A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID ON THE DECEMBER 14 WORKSHOP MEETING LIKE I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE WHETHER IT IS TRUE OR NOT AND WHO IS TRACKING THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FOOD LAWS ARE OR WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR SOUND. YET YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME DISCUSSING IDEAS ON HOW TO REGULATE A FARMERS MARKET WHEN IT WAS KIND OF CLEAR WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW FARMERS MARKETS OPERATED, OR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR BUSINESSES TO JOIN THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET. WE'RE A CAREFULLY CURATED MARKET AND HAVE STANDARDS THAT ALL THOSE WHO ARE WISHING TO JOIN MUST ADHERE TO. ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT COME TO THE HUTTO'S FARMERS MARKET WILL GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS. WE GET THEIR BUSINESS NAME, WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, ASK WHAT THEY MAKE OR GROW, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY SELL, WE REQUIRE A PROOF OF APPLICABLE PERMITS, LICENSING, AND CERTIFICATION FOR THE ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE FARMERS MARKET. AND NOT ONLY DO WE REVIEW EVERY SUPPLIER, BUT WE ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE BRICK AND MORTARS THAT OPERATE AROUND US. WE HAVE TURNED AWAY FLOWER VENDORS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOCAL FLOWER VENDOR ACROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE TURNED AWAY FOOD TRUCKS, PIE VENDORS, YOU GET THE IDEA. AND IN ADDITION TO THE SELF-REGULATION, WE ADMINISTER, AS DEFINED BY TEXAS STATUTE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE. CHAPTER 437, SECTION 437 AND THE FARMERS MARKET IS REGULATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND FARMERS MARKET PERMITS JUST TO NAME A FEW. WE PAY RENT BASED ON OUR HOME BASED BUSINESSES. WE PAY STORAGE AND FACILITIES THAT ARE NEEDED AND MAINTAIN ALL THE PROPER LICENSING AS WELL. ALL OF THIS IS DONE AS WE RECOGNIZE LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES, FEDERALLY AND BOTH BY THE UNITED STATES. ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES AT FARMERS MARKET ARE OPERATING AT THE CAPACITY THEY ARE AFFORDED TO. IT WAS HARD TO PICK THE MOST SHOCKING STATEMENT THAT WAS SET IN THE DECEMBER 14 MEETING, SO I HAD TO CHOOSE TOO. THE FIRST IS A COMMENT BY MAYOR SNYDER. I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER I FEEL LIKE WE WERE ABOUT TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR DOWNTOWN FOR THOSE PAYING TAXES AND NOT PAYING TAXES. NOT ONLY IS THIS STATEMENT INACCURATE, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY DEVICIVE AND HARMFUL. THE FIRST THING I NEED TO SAY ABOUT THIS COMMENT IS THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET STRONGLY STANDS AGAINST SUCH DIVISIVE COMMENTS. FROM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FROM BEING DOWNTOWN EVERY WEDNESDAY FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPACE FOR BOTH BRICK AND MORTARS AND THE FARMERS MARKET. SECONDLY ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AT THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET PAY THE TYPE OF TAXES THEY'RE REQUIRED TO. IF YOU STILL DON'T KNOW WHO MONITORS ALL TAXES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, IT'S THE STATE CONTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.

ON THE CONTROLLER'S WEBSITE, YOU'LL FIND THE FOLLOWING DESCRIPTION. "THE TEXAS CONTROLLERS OFFICE SERVES THE STATES BY COLLECTING, PROCESS, ADMINISTERING, OR OVERSEEING A HUNDRED SEPARATE TAXES, FEES, ASSESSMENTS, AND PROGRAM APPLICATIONS INCLUDING LOCAL SALES TAX. COLLECTED ON BEHALF OF MORE THAN 1,700 TEXAS CITIES, COUNTIES, OTHER GOVERNMENTS," THE TEXAS CONTROLLERS OFFICE NOT ONLY PROVIDES DETAIL ON THE WORK THEY DO AND ON WHAT TYPES OF PRODUCTS FROM BUSINESSES WARRANT SALES TAX SPECIFICALLY.

THE TEXAS CONTROLLERS OFFICE IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT

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>> NEXT WE HAVE VERONICA. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS VERONICA ACHERSON. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK, BUT I AM NOW. I AM THE OWNER OF WELL AND BEAUTY. I AM CLEARLY A WOMAN OF COLOR. I AM A MEXICAN WOMAN, AND WHAT I SELL IS SPANGLISH SHIRTS. THINGS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS MY HISPANIC SPANGLISH COMMUNITY. AND I HAVE BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS VENTURE. IN FACT I'M ACTUALLY WEARING ONE OF MY SHIRTS TODAY, IT SAYS SENORITA ADVICE. I'VE BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS VENDOR WITH HUTTO FARMERS MARKET. I HAVE CRIPPLING ANXIETY OF DOING MY VERY FIRST, MY VERY FIRST VENDOR. BUT A SWEET LADY BY THE NAME OF TAYLOR THROUGH HUTTO'S SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. JUST THIS PAST NOVEMBER WAS MY SECOND TIME. MY VERY FIRST ONE WAS IN 2021. SINCE THEN I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE CONNECTIONS I STUMBLED UPON THE FARMERS MARKET. A VERY DETAILED APPLICATION. WHEN I SAY I PRAYED AND HOPED THAT THEY ACCEPTED ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I ALSO SELL THESE OTHER CUTE LITTLE GLASS CUPS, AND THOSE ARE PRETTY POPULAR, AND I WAS JUST HOPING THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPER FLOODED WITH MY TYPE OF BUSINESS. TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE WELCOMED ME, AND I HAVE BECOME A COMMUNITY SOURCE OF SUPPORT FOR THEM AND MYSELF ALONGSIDE OTHER BUSINESSES. IT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE GREAT SALES. MY VERY FIRST MARKET, I WAS SO EXCITED TO CROSS THE 200 LINE IS WHAT I SAID. A LOT OF THE TIMES, I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB. I WORK AT A LARGE NON-PROFIT IN AUSTIN WITH A LOT OF SOCIAL JUSTICE, WORK, AND WOMEN'S ISSUES, CHILDREN'S ISSUE, EVERYTHING. AND SO I AM FORTUNATE AND I RECOGNIZE MY ABILITY TO HAVE BOTH MY FULL-TIME JOB AND MY SIDE SMALL BUSINESS. BUT A LOT OF THESE SMALL BUSINESSES DON'T. THIS IS THEIR ONLY LIVELIHOOD. AND THE FEAR OF IMPOSING OTHER FEES IS JUST HEARTBREAKING. I RECOGNIZE THAT I AM FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE OTHER E. I DON'T REMEMBER HIS

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HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

] >> NEXT WE HAVE MARINA CARTINA.

GOING TO YIELD MY TIME TO ENRIQUE, BUT HE WENT TO THE BATHROOM. I'M THE CHEF AND OWNER OF THE FOOD TRUCK. WE RUN TUESDAYS THROUGH SATURDAYS. AND FROM ABOUT 9:00 A.M. TO 9:00 P.M. EVERY DAY. SPEAKING OF SUPPORT OF HAVING THE MARKET IN TOWN BECAUSE THAT MEANS DURING THE SLOW PERIOD OR DURING MY LUNCH BREAK, I COULD SHOP AROUND AT THE MARKET, OR I COULD SHOP AT ALL THE LOCAL SHOPS TOO. BUT THIS PAST CHRISTMAS, I BOUGHT SOMETHING FROM EVERY PERSON HERE THAT I RECOGNIZE, AND THAT HAS BEEN A GIFT TO SOMEBODY ELSE. THOSE SAME PURCHASES COULD BE A GIFT THAT THEY GET FOR THEIR KIDS OR FAMILY OR JUST A NECESSARY PURCHASE. SO I'M REALLY JUST SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING THEM CLOSE BY. THAT'S ALL I'VE

GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> NEXT WE HAVE ENRIQUE. >> HELLO. HAPPY NEW YEAR'S.

YES, I'M ENRIQUE DIAZ. I CAME BY MISTAKE A YEAR AGO TO THIS TOWN, I MEAN I'VE BEEN LIVING 25 YEARS IN ROUND ROCK. AND DURING THE CHRISTMAS THING THAT YOU HAVE. THANKS TO A VENDOR WHO GAVE ME CAME IN AND DISCOVERED THAT LITTLE PARK THAT NOW HAS THE -- A FOOD TRUCK, AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY, I GUESS LIKE EVERY AMERICAN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM. AND IT DIDN'T START THAT DAY, IT WAS VERY SMALL. BUT WE NEEDED ANOTHER PLACE, A FRESH PLACE TO START. I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PLACE. AND SOMEHOW IT WAS DENIED FOR A WHILE. AND IT WAS NOT ANSWERING MY CALLS. BUT I KEPT PERSISTING UNTIL I KNEW THAT HE WAS WANTING TO SELL THE PROPERTY. AS CRAZY AS I AM, I SAID I'LL BUY IT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WILL COME, BUT SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, LOANS, I'M NOT A RICH PERSON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND NOW I AM THE PROUD OWNER OF A VERY NICE LOT, WHERE I CAN FINALLY GROW WITH THE HELP OF MY PARTNER. BUT THE POINT IS THE BEGINNING OF COMING HERE TODAY WAS, YOU KNOW, REMINDING YOU ABOUT THE RULE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN PLACE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO CHOOSE ANOTHER FOOD TRUCK TO COME IN AND HELP US. AND THE PLAN IS TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER, BUT I ALSO NEED THE RENT FOR THE OTHER FOOD TRUCKS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY I ALREADY HAVE LOST TWO GUYS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY TO GET THE PERMIT IS SO COMPLICATED THAT THEY WENT AWAY. SO HERE AGAIN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE TO PUSH THROUGH. AND I'M HOPING THAT WE TALK BEFORE WE WILL GO THROUGH AND ALSO THE CHANCE TO SERVE FOOD BEYOND 8:00. 10:00 WILL BE GREAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD A TABLE JUST LIKE YOU GUYS, A LONG TIME AGO. AND I HAVE PERSISTED. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SOMEBODY SAYS, IT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM. AND THAT YOU START SMALL AND YOU WORK HARD. AND YOU PAY YOUR DUES. AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, YOU'LL GET SOMETHING. AND YOU DREAM ABOUT HAVING THAT

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EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THIS, BUT IT WAS FRIDAY THEY COULDN'T STAY SOMEWHERE, SO THEY COME IN AND ASKED US AND I SAID YEAH, STAY. EVERY TIME AFTER THAT, THEY COME FRIDAYS AND WE MAKE MORE MONEY. NOT A LOT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $100 MORE, BUT IT HELPS US. COMPETITION IS VERY, VERY SOUND. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP US, PUT OUT A BILLBOARD, ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD, WHERE WE COULD PUT OUR FACES, SAY WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT IF NECESSARY. BUT THAT WOULD BRING BUSINESSES THAT REALLY WILL FULFILL EVERYBODY. NOT ONLY THE VENDORS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE GUYS THAT ARE THERE. GOOD BUSINESSES THROUGH A GOOD PRODUCT. IF YOU DO THAT, THEY WILL COME BACK EVERY TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE TEN A.

>> HELLO MAYOR AND EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL. I LIKE WHAT BRUCE ANDERSON, YOUR LIBRARIAN HAD TO SAY IN THE BEGINNING, CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT AND BRINGING COMMUNITY TOGETHER. I MEAN HE SPOKE UP FOR THE FARMERS MARKET WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. BUT ANY WAY I HAVE A SEAFOOD BUSINESS FROM ALASKA. I WAS VERY EXCITED TO COME TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND PROVIDE HEALTHY SUSTAINABLE SEAFOOD AND GET MYSELF INVOLVED WITH WHAT I HEARD, AND I HAVE VISITED HERE BEFORE IS A GREAT FARMERS MARKET LIFE. SO I WANT TO SUPPORT THE FARMERS MARKET. I LIKE WHAT NICK HAD TO SAY IN THE END. I WANT TO SAY IT IN CASE WE RUN OUT OF TIME.

JUDGING AND LISTENING TO WHAT I HAVE HEARD. IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS EVER A VOTE TO FURTHER BURDEN FARMERS MARKET BY FURTHER REGULATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL HIGHLY CONSIDER A VOTE NO TO THAT AND IT IS JUST SUCH A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY ENVIRONMENT AND SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN CAPITALISTIC THING AND APPALLING TO HEAR SOME OF THE RHETORIC AT THAT DECEMBER 14 MEETING. CONCERNING MYSELF AND MY BUSINESS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS SAID ABOUT FINDING IT HARD TO BELIEVE TO COME ACROSS ALL THESE METROPOLITAN AREAS, AND THE SARCASTIC STATEMENT OF DOING THE PEOPLE OF HUTTO A FAVOR. WELL LET ME EXPLAIN VERY SIMPLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SEAFOOD I'M SUPPLYING AS OPPOSED TO THE SEAFOOD THAT'S AVAILABLE AT COSTCO. I'M BUYING MY SEAFOOD DIRECTLY FROM THE FISHERMEN. MY SALMON, I'M PROCESSING IT, FLASH FREEZING IT 30 DEGREES BELOW ZERO, WHICH WILL MAKE IT A SUSHI GRADE PRODUCT. AND I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF TROUBLE. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY AS WE ARE NOT ONLY LICENSED, BUT BONDED TO BUY AND SELL IN THE STATE OF ALASKA, WHICH TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF BUREAUCRACY TO BECOME A KNOWN SHIPPER TO BE ABLE TO FLY MY PRODUCT, WHICH IT FLIES FROM KODIAK ISLAND INTO THE AUSTIN AIRPORT IF YOU LOOKED ON MY INSTAGRAM. THERE'S VIDEOS OF IT OF ME PICKING IT UP, OPENING UP THE BOXES, SHOWING THAT IT IS ROCK FROZEN, IN A CERTIFIED PUBLIC STORAGE AS IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED. I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND I GOT TO KNOW THE HEAD INVESTIGATOR OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I'M KIND OF A UNIQUE ENTITY. AND WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT ALL WORKED OUT. I CAN PROMISE YOU, CONTRARY TO WHAT WAS SAID AT THE MEETING ON DECEMBER 14, THERE IS A LOT OF CUSTOMERS, AND I'M NOW IN A COUPLE OF GREAT RESTAURANTS, SUPPLYING MY CRAB. THERE'S SOME GREAT CHEFS IN TOWN THAT ARE NOW BUYING MY SALMON. I WISH I HAD TIME TO MENTION ALL THE RESTAURANTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR NOT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL CUSTOMER BASE AND A LOT OF RESTAURANT OWNERS THAT DO NOT SUPPLY SEAFOOD, BUT THEY MET AND HEARD ABOUT ME THAT LOVE TO BUY MY HIGH QUALITY SEAFOOD. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HOPE I'VE EDUCATED WHOEVER HAD THE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT MY BUSINESS CORRECTLY BECAUSE I JUST THINK THEY WERE MISINFORMED. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK EVERYBODY DID A GOOD JOB. AND BRUCE ANDERSON, HE SAID IT WITHOUT EVEN TRYING FOR THE FARMERS MARKETS, BRINGING COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND CREATING EVENTS FOR EVERYBODY TO GET TOGETHER.

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>> HELLO. FIRST I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT. I'M THE OWNER AND BAKER FOR THE KNOTTED KITCHEN. IT'S A COTTAGE LAW FOOD BUSINESS. IT MEANS I BAKE OUT OF MY HOME. I SPECIALIZE IN SOURDOUGH. I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR THEE YEARS NOW. I HAVE THREE VERY YOUNG CHILDREN. AND I GREW UP IN THE DALLAS AREA, BUT CHOSE TO COME TO THIS AREA INSTEAD AFTER COLLEGE. AFTER WATCHING THE WORKSHOP ON DECEMBER 14, I DID NOTICE THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT KNOWN ABOUT COTTAGE FOOD LAWS. IT WAS BEING LUMPED TOGETHER WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND FOOD VENDORS, AND FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ENTITY. AND I LOOKED INTO WILLIAMSON COUNTY, INTO HUTTO, TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ORDINANCES, ANY LAWS PERTAINING TO COTTAGE FOOD, AND THERE'S NOT. IT'S BY THE STATE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GO ON TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH AND SERVICES WEBSITE. SO THEY DEFINE A COTTAGE FOOD OPERATION AS AN INDIVIDUAL OPERATING OUT OF THE INDIVIDUAL'S HOME WHO PRODUCES ANY OF THE FOLLOWING AT THEIR HOME. IT'S A BAKED GOOD. AND THERE IS CANDY, COATED NUTS AND A HUGE WHOLE LIST OF PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE PRODUCED IN YOUR HOME AND SOLD UNDER COTTAGE FOOD LAWS. I DO BAKING, OBVIOUSLY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FOOD HANDLERS LICENSE. YOU KNOW LICENSES THAT ARE REQUIRED, EDUCATION IS REQUIRED. THERE IS LABELING REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S STATEMENT REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND LAWS THAT ARE REGULATED BY THIS OR PUT OUT BY THE STATE THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW. IT IS NOT A COTTAGE FOOD PRODUCTION IS NOT A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE AND PACKAGE ALL THE PRODUCTS AT HOME IN OUR HOME KITCHEN. IF SOMETHING IS MADE IN A MARKET, IT IS NO LONGER A COTTAGE FOOD PRODUCT. IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY MADE AND PACKAGED AND LABELED AT HOME. AND SO THAT IS JUST, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT BEFORE ANY ORDINANCES OR PERMITS OR REQUIREMENTS ARE PUSHED AGAINST COTTAGE LAW VENDORS OR COTTAGE LAW BAKERS THAT YOU JUST EDUCATE YOURSELF ON WHAT A COTTAGE LAW BUSINESS IS FIRST. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE ISAAC TORRES. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ISAAC TORRES. I'M A JUNIOR AT HUTTO HIGH SCHOOL. I LIVED IN HUTTO AND HAVE BEEN HERE MOST OF MY LIFE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER AT THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET LAST SUMMER, AND I SAW THE COMMITMENT ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES, ALL THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ADD TO THEIR CRAFTS AND THE COMMITMENT TO THEIR COMMUNITY TO SHOW UP EVERY WEDNESDAY REGARDLESS, EXCUSE ME, REGARDLESS OF PROFITS. HUTTO FARMERS MARKET BRINGS A COMMUNITY LOCAL, HEALTHY, FRESH PRODUCE. THE FARMERS MARKET HELPS THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN. AS A TEEN GROWING UP IN HUTTO, I'M PROUD TO FIND A PLACE WITH BETTER PRODUCTS IN MY HOMETOWN. AFTER WATCHING THE WORKSHOP, I WAS SCARED AT HOW QUICK MY COUNCIL WAS WILLING TO ACT ON THINGS THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT WILL AFFECT ME AND MY PEERS WHEN I GRADUATE. I EXPECT MY MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE WHEN MAKING DECISIONS ON OUR BEHALF. WE RELY ON YOU TO LOOK OUT FOR US, TO LOOK OUT FOR MY FUTURE, SO THAT ONE DAY I CAN PURSUE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND MAYBE EVEN START MY OWN FAMILY. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE CITY OF HUTTO'S ATTEMPT TO OVERREACH THEIR POWER AND TO USE YOUR POWER FOR US, NOT AGAINST US FOR MY FUTURE AND FOR THE FUTURE OF

HUTTO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

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WE HAVE VERONICA JOHNSON. >> HELLO COUNCIL, I AM VERONICA JOHNSON. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS. I AM THE OWNER OF LIBRO'S BOOK SHOP, FORMERLY LIBRO'S BOOK MOBILE. WE'LL AN INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE SPECIALIZING IN BOOKS ABOUT LATINAS. I HAVE BEEN A POP-UP VENDOR AT LOCAL AREA, EXCUSE ME, MARKETS AND EVENTS. I HAVE BEEN A MOBILE STORE INSIDE A CONVERTED SCHOOL BUS. AND NOW I HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR. MY VERY FIRST SALE AS AN INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE AS AN INDEPENDENT BOOK SELLER WAS ACTUALLY AT THE HUTTO FARMERS MARKET. I WANTED TO ADDRESS RECENT COMMENTS MADE BY MAYOR SNYDER ON THE MAYORAL FACEBOOK PAGE AND DURING THE DECEMBER 14 WORK SESSION. SEVERAL TIMES THE MAYOR HAS STATED OR IMPLIED THAT MOBILE VENDOR AND POP-UP SMALL BUSINESSES DO NOT PAY TAXES OR, AND I QUOTE, "I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE PAYING TAXES CORRECTLY." I WOULD LIKE THE MAYOR TO STOP SAYING THAT. THAT'S SLANDER AND VERY DAMAGING TO ANY BUSINESS, BUT ESPECIALLY TO SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST GETTING STARTED. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DO NOT KNOW ANY BUSINESS OF ANY SIZE FILES WITH THE TEXAS COMP CONTROLLER FOR A SALES AND USE PERMIT. THIS IS FREE AFTER YOU HAVE FILED WITH THE STATE FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE OF ANY KIND. THIS PERMIT HAS YOUR TAX NUMBER.

AFTER YOUR FIRST FEW MONTHS OF BEING A BUSINESS, THE COMPTROLLER WILL SEND YOU A LOVELY LETTER SAYING IT'S TIME TO PAY YOUR TAXES. YOU TELL THEM YOUR SALES TOTALS AND WHERE EACH SALE TOOK PLACE. THEY TELL YOU PAY UNAND THEN YOU DO. OTHERWISE JUST LIKE FEDERAL TAXES IF LEFT UNPAID, YOU GET IN TROUBLE. WE REPORT SALES AND PAY TAXES TO THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER. THEN ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE, THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY THEN DISTRIBUTES 6.25% TO THE STATE AND UP TO 2% TO THE LOCAL USE OR CITY WHERE THE SALE WAS MADE. WHETHER YOU, AS THE CUSTOMER, ARE EXPLICITLY CHARGED SALES TAX AT THE POINT OF SALE OR WHETHER THE BUSINESS ROLLS THAT INTO THE PRICE OF THE ITEM, WHETHER I CHARGE YOU OR NOT, I STILL HAVE TO PAY THOSE TAXES. JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE ACTIVELY TAKING TRACK OF WHERE A SALES TAKES PLACE DOES NOT MEAN THAT KIND OF RECORDKEEPING ISN'T HAPPENING. IT IS A PART OF BEING A RESPONSIBLE POP-UP OR MOBILE BUSINESS. JUST LIKE SETTING UP AN ENTIRE STORE IN A 10-BY-10 SPACE AND TAKING IT ALL DOWN IN ONE DAY. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT IT HAPPENS. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A PARTICULAR BUSINESS NOT PAYING TAXES, THE ANSWER IS NOT TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION ABOUT VENDORS AT THE FARMERS MARKET.

THE ANSWER ISN'T TO HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES REPORT THEIR CONFIDENTIAL SALES TAXES TO THE CITY ON TOP OF REPORTING TO THE COMPTROLLER. YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT TO MCDONALD'S. YOU CANNOT KNOW WHO IS PAYING THE RETAIL TAXES OR NOT BY THE SIZE OF THEIR BUSINESS, BY THEIR BUSINESS MODEL OR BY THE LOCATION OF THE BUSINESS. IF YOU NEED TAX INFORMATION, CONTACT THE COMPTROLLER. THE AGENCY TASKED WITH COLLECTING INFORMATION AND PAYMENTS. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND DIVISIVE TO SAY THAT AN ENTIRE CLASS OF BUSINESS MODEL DOESN'T PAY THEIR TAXES. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE CHRIS LIAM. FIRST OFF MEMBER CLARK, I GUESS, IS CARRYING ON CONVERSATIONS WITH SOMEBODY, I'M NOT SURE WHO IS IN THE ROOM THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LAUGHING, SMURKING, ESPECIALLY WHEN MR. PRICE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS WIFE BEING ILL. I DON'T FIND THAT PARTICULARLY APPEALING FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER. I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, MY NAME IS CHRIS. I'M THE OWNER OF TINY FEET FARM. WHICH IS A HONEY BUSINESS. MY WIFE AND I BOTH OWN IT. WE HAVE A DBA THAT STANDS FOR DOING BUSINESS AS. I SAY THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY

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THE EQUIPMENT THAT THE USE, THE FRAME, THE BEES FEED, THE TREATMENTS, MY TIME. BANNERS REQUIRED TO HAVE THE NAME OF THE COMPANY AND THE LOCATION. AND JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT A BUSINESS. AND I DIDN'T TAKE OUT AND BUY $100,000 FRANCHISE AND PICK A POOR LOCATION TO SELL MY PRODUCT. MR. CLARK OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T NEED ANY FACTS OR ANY INFORMATION TO BACK UP WHAT WAS SAID BY THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, THE HUTTO ASSOCIATION AND I REALIZE NOW WHY THEY DIDN'T NEED THE INFORMATION OR PROOF THAT THEY WERE LOSING MONEY IS BECAUSE UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED, THE MAYOR IS A REGISTERED -- REGISTERED, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, REGISTERED AGENT OF THE HUTTO DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. SO YOU BASICALLY WERE TELLING THEM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WHAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE. SO I CAN SEE WHAT HE DIDN'T NEED MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE IT IS ALL RIGHT THERE AND YOU'RE A PART OF IT AND YOU TOLD THEM WHAT THEY NEEDED TO KNOW AND TO SAY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT WHERE SHE STEVEN ROMERO.

ROMERO. I HAVE LIVED HERE IN HUTTO FOR 18 YEARS. I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AND THEY HAVE GONE TO HUTTO SCHOOLS. AT ONE TIME I WAS GOING TO FOUR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS PICKING THEM UP, DROPPING THEM OFF, PICKING THEM UP EVERY DAY, SO I'M VERY MUCH A PART OF THE HUTTO COMMUNITY. BUT I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. AND I HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS AND STARTED DRAWING, AT MARKETS ALL OVER THE STATE. AND SO I HAVE AN APPRECIATION OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THESE MARKETS. THESE VENDORS OF ALL SORTS. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY REAL QUICK, WHICH IS A FEW WEEKS AGO, MY CHILDREN, MY KIDS WERE

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GREAT, I'M GOING TO GET A TATTOO FROM THERE PROBABLY. BUT I SAW THE WEDDING VENUE PLACE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES AND I REALIZED IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FARMERS MARKET THAT I STARTED COMING DOWNTOWN WITH MY KIDS AND WE MADE IT A TRADITION TO DO THAT, SO I WANTED THOSE VENDORS TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THEM THAT ARE GRATEFUL THAT THEY ARE A PART OF THE HUTTO COMMUNITY AND THAT I GO TO OTHER FARMERS MARKETS LIKE A GEORGETOWN, ROUND ROCK, ALL THAT. AND IF THEY MOVE THE FARMERS MARKET HERE IN HUTTO, I'LL FOLLOW THEM. BUT I HOPE THEY DON'T. BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT I MOST LIKELY WILL NOT TAKE STROLLS AROUND DOWNTOWN ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A PART OF WHAT WE DO. AND I KNOW THAT MEETING ON DECEMBER 14, A STATEMENT WAS MAID THAT THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE FARMERS MARKET AND JUST BUY SOMETHING AND LEAVE OR PEOPLE THAT GO DOWNTOWN AND GO SOME PLACE. WELL, THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY, WE DO BOTH. THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US DOWNTOWN ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I SUPPORT THE FARMERS MARKET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

CRAWFORD. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS HEATHER CRAWFORD, AND I'M THE OWNER OF HEATHERS STREET. A SMALL BUSINESS OPERATED OUT OF HUTTO, TEXAS. I'M A WIFE AND MOTHER OF FOUR AMAZING KIDS, THREE ADULTS WHO ARE VOTERS AND ONE MINOR CHILD. I HAVE LIVED IN HUTTO FOR OVER NINE YEARS. EIGHT OF WHICH MY FAMILY RENTED A HOME. THIS PAST APRIL, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOME IN HUTTO. WE SHOP LOCALLY IN HUTTO AND SUPPORT LOCAL RESTAURANTS. ALL FOUR OF MY KIDS ATTENDED OR CURRENTLY ATTEND HUTTO ISD SCHOOLS. MY YOUNGER SON IS 7 YEARS OLD IN THE SECOND GRADE. HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM AT 2 YEARS OLD AND NON-VERBAL. BAKING OUT OF MY HOME AND PARTICIPATING IN MARKETS AND OTHER EVENTS SUCH AS THE DOWNTOWN CHRISTMAS FAIR ALLOW ME TO BE AVAILABLE TO MY SON WHENEVER HE NEEDS ME. THE SCHOOL CALLING HOME ABOUT SOME NEED MY SON HAS IS A WEEKLY OCCURRENCE. I CAN BE AVAILABLE TO GO TO HIS SCHOOL AND BRING WHATEVER HE NEEDS OR TAKE HIM HOME AS NEEDED. IF I RAN A BRICK AND MORTAR, I WOULD NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO THIS. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I DO NOT WORK JUST AS HARD, IF NOT HARDER TO MAKE MY BUSINESS A SUCCESS. I AM OFTEN UP BEFORE DAWN, BAKING FOR THE WEEK'S EVENTS OR CUSTOM ORDERS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. I HAVE NO HIRED HELP TO SUPPORT ME. I DO THIS ON MY OWN. EVERY COST OF EVERY INGREDIENT OR TOOL THAT I NEED FROM MY BUSINESS COMES OUT OF MY OWN POCKET. I DO NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LOAN TO HELP WITH EXPENSES. EVERY EVENT PARTICIPATION FEE, PACKAGING, LICENSING FEE WILL COME OUT OF MY OWN POCKET. THERE'S A LOT THAT COMES OUT FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS AND I DON'T JUST SWOOP IN, SELL SOME COOKIES, AND COLLECT $1,000 AND GO HOME. I'M PREPARING MENUS, SHOPPING FOR INGREDIENTS, BAKING FOR DAYS, LABELING, PACKAGING, ADVERTISING. I'M NOT HERE TO STEAL ANYONE'S BUSINESS. I SIMPLY LOVE BAKING FOR PEOPLE AND THIS IS THE WAY I CAN DO IT AND SHARE IT WITH THE TOWN THAT I LOVE. THE FARMERS MARKET IS VERY IMPORTANT. I SPEAK TO PEOPLE EVERY WEEK WHO ARE COMING OUT TO DINNER AND THEN STOP BY THE MARKET AFTERWARDS. THE BUSINESSES CAN COEXIST. A SOLUTION CAN BE FOUND. LISTENING TO ONLY ONE SIDE OF

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UNTIL THEN, I WILL RAISE MY VOICE TO ENSURE THE RIGHTS OF ALL SMALL BUSINESSES ARE BEING REPRESENTED. LET'S FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR ALL OF US. LET'S TRULY SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF HUTTO. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.

THISTOWN, ALL THAT AND I WAS VERY EXCITED, AND MOST OF DOWNTOWN HUTTO. SO WHEN I FOUND OUT, AND I LOVE SMALLTOWN HUTTO. AND THEN I HEAR THAT I TOLD THE MAYOR, WHERE ARE WE AT? HE TALKED TO EVERY BRICK AND MORTAR AND DOESN'T THINK THAT WE LIKE FARMERS MARKETS. THAT'S NOT IT AT ALL. I LOVE THE FARMERS MARKET, AND I FULLY SUPPORT THEM. AND IF ANYTHING IS MADE ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKET THAT THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ANY DECISION ABOUT IT AND I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT COMPETING BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN BECAUSE NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE WHEN YOU ALL APPROVED FOR A TATTOO SHOP TO OWN NEXT TO MINE. I FOUND THAT VERY ODD. AND COUNTY ROAD 137 IS A WRECK.

I HAVE MENTIONED THAT ON FACEBOOK ABOUT A THOUSAND TIMES AND NOTHING IS GOING ON WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT WE HAVE STEPHANIE. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT?

>> HI, I'M BEEN A VOLUNTEER AND OWNER OF FARMERS MARKET FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT DANIELLA AND JOSEPH BECAUSE WE FIRST STARTED THE FARMERS MARKET, BUT WE SAW WHAT THEY WERE WILLING TO DO OVER AND ABOVE AND WE WERE EXCITED WHEN WE HEARD THEY QUIT THEIR JOBS AND THEY ARE GOING TO GO 100% ALL IN. SO AT THAT POINT, I WAS REALLY EXCITED, AND I SAID YOU ALL SHOULD TAKE IT OVER. YOU LIVE HERE. AND SO THEY ASKED ME TO COME TODAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I PRETTY MUCH KNOW ALL ABOUT FARMERS MARKETS RULES, REGULATIONS, VENDORS. I MEAN I DON'T MAKE ANYTHING. I CAN'T COOK, I DON'T GROW ANYTHING. SO MY CONTRIBUTION IS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP CHIP IN FOR RENT WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE SHORT.

I HAVE DONATED THOUSANDS OF HOURS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO KEEP THESE MARKETS GOING. AND I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED. I THOUGHT THEY WERE PUNKING ME WHEN THEY SENT ME A COPY OF THE VIDEO. AND I SAID IT CAN'T BE RIGHT AND ESPECIALLY SPEAKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR VENDORS THAT I HAVE KNOWN SINCE LIKE CHRIS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH YEAR.

WHERE SHE LOST ABOUT 60% OF THE FARMERS, AND THE KIDS ARE SELLING THEIR LAND, BECOMING OVERNIGHT MILLIONAIRES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FARM ANYMORE, WHICH IS TOO HARD TO KEEP THEM GOING AND I'M BEHIND IT. AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS THINK TWICE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE IN COLD AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE I MAKE GOOD MONEY BEING IN AIR-CONDITIONING AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT I COULD GIVE BACK AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T COME ACROSS PEOPLE LIKE THAT EVERY DAY AND WE DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS LIKE THAT. SO THEY

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>> NEXT WE HAVE LARISSA. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT?

>> HI. MY NAME IS LARISSA AND I'M A HUTTO RESIDENT. WE GAINED MANY FRIENDS AND NOW SOME CLOSE AS FAMILY. EVERY WEEK WE ATTENDED THE FARMERS MARKET AND IT HELPED US GET FAMILIAR WITH OTHERS IN THE AREA. WHEN WE WANTED A GOOD MEAL, WE WERE SUGGESTED THE TEXAN CAFE AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. AND ONCE E STREET PIZZERIA OPENED UP, A VENDOR SUGGESTED THEM FOR DINNER. WE WENT IN FOR PIZZA AND I LEFT WITH A JOB APPLICATION. IT'S ALLOWING ME TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY AND GAIN EVEN MORE FRIENDS. ALL OF THIS STEMMING FROM IT OUR VISIT TO THE FARMERS MARKET. SINCE BEING THERE, I HAVE NOT NOTICED ANY DIFFERENCE FROM TRAFFIC COMPARED TO A TUESDAY OR THURSDAY. IF ANYTHING, IT IS SENDING NEW PATRONS IN EVERY WEEK. IT IS A CRUCIAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS THEY HAVE

BEEN. THANK YOU. >> AND NEXT WE HAVE CHARLENE.

>> HI, HELLO. MR. CLARK, YOU'RE WAY UP THERE. MY NAME IS CHARLENE KNOWN AS MILO'S MOM. MILO, MY DOG, WHO LOVES THE DOWNTOWN AND IS UNOFFICIALLY CALLED MILO, THE MARKET DOG, RIGHT? RIGHT? HOPEFULLY HE COULD RUN OPPOSED. THEY CAN LET HIM HAVE THAT OWNER. LIKE PRECOVID TIME, WEDNESDAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE VERY SLOW, WHICH IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY TYPICAL. BUT NOW I APPROACH E STREET AND I SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE. IT JUST WARMS MY HEART. TO SEE ALL THE ACTIVITY HERE. MILO AND I HAVE ATTEND THE 90, 95% OF ALL THE WEDNESDAY'S FARMERS MARKET. FOOD TRUCK FRIDAYS AND THE SUNDAY MARKETS. AND IT IS A PART OF OUR ROUTINE AND IT'S A PART OF OUR LIFE. IT IMPRESSES ME HOW THESE MARKETS ARE RUN ESPECIALLY THE THOUGHT AND CREATIVITY THAT'S PUT INTO THEM. I'M ESPECIALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THEY ELEVATE THE MARKETS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND OFTEN SERVE AS A PLATFORM TO TEACH HUTTO. THEY CREATE THEMED MARKETS, FOCUS ON FAMILY. AND THEY INCLUDE CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES. THEMES LIKE EARTH DAYS, HOLIDAY THEMES, BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

TEACHING US, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT COMPOSTING AND GETTING US INVOLVED AS A COMMUNITY. THE WEDNESDAY FARMERS' MARKET IS BEAUTIFUL TO START THE INITIATIVE. JOSEPH WILL TAKE IT TO THE PETERSON COMMUNITY MARKET ON OUR BEHALF. AND A LOCAL VENDOR, IT MAKES IT EASIER. THEY DONATED HIS TALENT AND TIME TO BUILD IT BY THE FARMERS MARKET. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW IT IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST A MARKET AND HOW IT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN DOWNTOWN. BUT

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AND THE BREAKFAST AT MARIOS. AND FROM THE HALL OF FAME JUST TO NAME A FEW. AND ALL INVOLVED IN THE POLITE AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER AND IN ANY BULLYING AND THREATS THAT IT WILL HURT MY HEART. AND TO LEARN THE STATE LAW AND THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR GOOD REASON, AND DOWNTOWN HUTTO. IF YOU SEE ME AT THE MARKET DOG, WALKING DOWNTOWN, PLEASE STOP AND PET MILO. THANK YOU.

IN THE HEART OF FARMERS MARKET SELLING COOKIES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN AND EXPRESS MY POINT OF VIEW IN RELATION TO THIS FAMILY PROJECT. MY HUSBAND, ANTONIO, AND I ARE IMMIGRANTS. WE'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTRY FOR SIX YEARS AND WE HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES SINCE DAY ONE. BUT IT IS NOT A SECRET HOW HARD IT IS TO IMMIGRATE. EVEN THOUGH ANTONIO AND I ARE BOTH ATTORNEYS IN OUR HOME COUNTRY, HERE WE HAVE TO REINVENT OURSELVES CONSTANTLY IN THE LAST SIX YEARS. SELLING COOKIES IS A MAJOR PART OF THAT. IT HAS GIVEN ME A WAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO MY HUSBAND'S INCOME AND SUPPORT MY FAMILY. AND I HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED OF ME UNDER THE LAW AND MY HUSBAND AND I PAY OUR TAXES EVERY YEAR. WE STRIVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW AND WITHOUT HARMING ANYONE. ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS IS THAT MARKETS WILL ONLY GET THERE TO SELL AND LEAVE WITH A THOUSAND OF DOLLARS IN THEIR MARKETS. AND NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THE COOKIES WILL REPRESENT A MONUMENTAL EFFORT.

SLEEPLESS NIGHT, TIME AWAY FROM MY KIDS, ALL IN THE NAME OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. WE CAME HERE TO ACHIEVE. I HOPE TO ONE DAY BECOME A BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS, BUT I CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH THE SUPPORT OF YOU ALL, THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY. IN MY OPINION, WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY IS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO TO TAKE US OUT. BUT INSTEAD, HOW OUR CONTRIBUTION ENRICHES THE CITY AND PROMOTES GROWTH. IT IS A FACT THAT THE POPULATION WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND THE CITY MUST RESPOND TO IT. COMPETITION IN ALL AREAS OF SERVICE IS WHAT PROMOTES THE QUALITY PRODUCTION AND SERVICES, AND THAT SHALL BE CELEBRATED. AND THAT IS THE AMERICAN WAY. THAT IS WHAT MY FAMILY AND I CAME HERE TO FIND. QUALITY PRODUCTS WITH CUSTOMERS, NO MATTER HOW MUCH COMPETITION THERE IS. AND EVENTS LIKE THOSE AND WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY WILL ONLY BRING MORE TO LIFE AND TRAFFIC TO THE CITY. AND IT WILL HELP A SMALL BUSINESS AND PROMOTES THE AMERICAN WAY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME AND I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE GREAT ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE HAD AND THAT WE HAVE AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE

THIS WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE JESUS HUTTO. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JUDITH SOTO AND I'M A NATIVE TEXAN AND CURRENTLY A CITIZEN OF FAR EAST

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AT ONCE I WAS FACED WITH THE GRIM REALITY THAT IN BIG BUSINESS, ALMOST EVERYONE IS A NUMBER AND THEREFORE DISPENSABLE. AT THE SAME TIME, REMEMBERING MY AND MY HUSBAND'S LONG-TIME DREAM OF BUILDING SOMETHING OF OUR OWN. GETTING CONNECTED IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY WAS ONE OF MY WAYS OF COPING WITH A LOSS OF A JOB WHILE ALSO GETTING TO MEET NEW PEOPLE, IMMERSING MYSELF IN COMMUNITY AND BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THE WAYS THESE SMALL BUSINESS MARKET VENDORS RUN THEIR BUSINESSES, WORKING TIRELESSLY TO CREATE OR PROCURE AND SELL THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES AND LOGISTICALLY OPERATE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. IN RECENT WEEKS, I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF MULTIPLE FLAGRANT AND IRRESPONSIBLE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THE WEDNESDAY'S FARMERS MARKET AND VENDORS. ONE SECOND.

SOME COMMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, INSINUATING THAT TAXES AREN'T BEING PAID, CORRECT OPERATING PROCEDURES AREN'T BEING FOLLOWED OR EVEN THESE BUSINESSES HAVE LESS RIGHT TO OPERATE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE HEY, THEY SUPPOSEDLY DON'T HAVE THE BURDEN OF ANY OVERHEAD OR PROPERTY TAXES ETC. COMMENTS LIKE THESE AND MULTIPLE OTHERS WERE DESPAIRINGER AND UNTRUE AND HUTTO FARMERS MARKET. AND THAT THEY HAVE HAD HOPES OF ONE DAY SELLING FRESH FOOD, SAUCES, SPICES AT THE VERY PARK. AND BASED ON THE DECEMBER 14 WORKSHOP CONVERSATION. WHILE I'M NOT A CITIZEN OF HUTTO MYSELF, I HAVE COME TO KNOW AND LOVE MANY LOCALS AND THE HEART OF THIS COMMUNITY AS I'VE SEEN IT TO DATE. . SO MANY BUSINESSES ARE COMING TOGETHER FREQUENTLY AND ENTHUSIASTIC TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER IN THE MARKET. IN THE AMERICAN SPIRIT OF FREE ENTERPRISE, I SINCERELY HOPE THAT ANY EFFORTS TO QUENCH THE FARMERS MARKET ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE FREELY. AND THAT IT WILL BE PARTICIPATING THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN THE FAIR AND LEGAL PARAMETERS SET FORTH BY NO ADDITIONAL RED TAPE. I HOPE FOR THE SAKE OF THE SMALL CITY WHO WILL BE RIGHT IN CHAMPIONING ALL SMALL BUSINESSES. FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO KNOW AND LOVE THE FARMERS MARKET THAT WILL COME EVERY WEEK. LASTLY I HOPE FOR THE SAKE OF MANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, CHASING THEIR DREAMS, AS WELL AS FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE WAITING TO BEGIN THAT CHASE OURSELVES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

COMMENT. I DO HAVE A COMMITTEE INTEREST. THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 1. FOR AND CITY ATTORNEY, WE DON'T CHARGE TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT?

>> NO. >> OKAY. THERE HAS BEEN SOME INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE CAN CHIP IN $8 AND HELP GET THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IT IS FREE. IT TAKES TWO PEOPLE OR THE MAYOR TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THIS WAS SCHEDULED BACK AFTER THE WORKSHOP, SO THERE IS NO

[17. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS (Part 1 of 2)]

>> ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? HEARING NONE, WE WILL BRING 17

1 UP. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS SHOWN UP TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE DECEMBER 14 WORKSHOP THAT HAPPENED. I THINK THAT I'VE BEEN EDUCATED TONIGHT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE. THE MULTIPLE CITIZENS COMMENTS. I MUST ADMIT THERE IS A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD SPECIFICALLY COMING FROM ME. I FEEL A LITTLE BIT HYPOCRITICAL AND MY FAMILY HAS ENJOYED THE FARMERS MARKET AND THAT I FEEL A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL FOR THE COMMENTS I MADE DURING THAT MEETING THAT WERE OUT OF POCKET. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND FOLLOWED UP WITH, THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. I'LL FOLLOW THAT UP AS WELL.

AND THAT WORKSHOP, WE WEREN'T, IT JUST HAD ON THERE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE PREPARED FOR THAT CONVERSATION AFTERWARDS. AND AFTER THAT MEETING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKET. BUT AS YOU CAN TELL BASED ON THE SUPPORT HERE FOR THE FARMERS MARKET THAT IT IS PRETTY HUGE AND IT HAS GROWN TREMENDOUS LAYOVER THE YEARS. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE WHEN IT STARTED UP. I'LL MEET WITH CRISS ON WHAT HE WOULD LIKE AND DISLIKED ABOUT IT AND BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S READY TO BE USED AGAIN. AND I SAID IT THEN AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE GREAT IDEAS THAT I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT BE THERE YET. BUT IT IS AN OPTION, I KNOW. BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT AND I LOVE YOUR SUPPORT AND THAT SMALL BUSINESS AND I SUPPORT THEM AND CAN'T WAIT TO GET THAT HIPPO BLEND AND I WISH I HAD IT FOR BREAKFAST IN THE MORNING AND I LOVE THE STORES BEHIND THE WHY. I'VE SEEN YOUR NAME ON EVERYTHING TO SEE YOU IN PERSON IS HUGE AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR YOUR FAMILY. YOU KNOW, THE WHY BEHIND IT AND WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND HOW YOU GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP ON A PLANTATION AS WE WERE FARMERS. AND OUR LAND SOLD LAST YEAR LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO FARM IT AND I GET IT. IT'S HARD IN THIS GENERATION. THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO IS AMAZING, LIKE IT'S TEN TIMES HARDER THAN ANYTHING I COULD DO. I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT. NOT ONLY FOR HUTTO, BUT EACH OTHER. IT'S HUGE. WE SEE IT, WE NOTICE IT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, SIR?

] >> THANK YOU.

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>> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE AS WELL. THE CONVERSATION THAT IT WAS POSTED FOR THE FOOD TRUCK HOURS.

OBVIOUSLY WE DID GET OFF TRACK AS A COUNCIL. I DO APOLOGIZE.

THE FARMERS MARKET GOT WRAPPED UP INTO IT NEGATIVELY. I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY. AND THE VOICE OF ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AND OUR BUSINESSES. AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MORE REGULATION. MORE BURDENS FOR OUR BUSINESSES. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT KNOWN AND THAT THE VOICE AND THE COMMENTS OF ONE, IT DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF THE HUTTO CITY COUNCIL, SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. I WISH YOU A PROSPEROUS NEW

YEAR'S AS WELL. >> I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I'M NOT SURE IF WE NECESSARILY GOT OFF ON THE FOOD TRUCK VERSES THE FARMERS' MARKET. THE REASON BEING SOME OF THE FARMERS MARKETS ARE BEING HELD IN FOOD COURTS. THE IDEA AND THE WAY THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE SOME OF THE FOOD TRUCKS IN THE POSITIONS WE'RE HAVING THEM IN. SO THE CONVERSATION WAS TO TAKE A AWAY A LOT OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS. RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE A FOOD TRUCK AND YOU WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY OF HUTTO AND MAINTAIN A PERMANENT SPACE, YOU HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION WITH THE CITY.

THERE'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT TAKING THE WHOLE PROCESS AWAY AND LEAVING IT SIMPLIFIED, LEAVING IT TO THE STAFF. BUT IN RETURN, ANOTHER FOOD TRUCK THAT WILL JUST COME IN TO PARK FOR ONE NIGHT AND NOT HAVE TO DO ANY KIND OF PERMITTING AND LEAVE. SO THE IDEA WAS FOR ME PERSONALLY WAS EVERYBODY OPERATES. YOU GUYS SAID EQUAL. EQUAL, EVERYBODY OPERATES UNDER THE SAME STANDARDS. ALL FOOD TRUCKS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY TO GET A SIMPLE PERMIT AND NOT GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING. NOT JUST THE ONES THAT WILL CHOOSE TO BE HERE MORE THAN TODAY. I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GET EVERYBODY TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT I THINK IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE THE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT AREN'T SET UP THE WAY THAT YOU ALL THINK THEY ARE. WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING OUR OWN ORDINANCES, SO WE HAVE TO AMEND THEM. AND I THINK IN EXTENDING THE HOURS IS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GROW DOWNTOWN, BUT EVERYBODY'S GOT TO LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER. IT CAN'T BE ONE SIDE LOOKING OUT FOR THEM AND THE OTHER SIDE LOOKING OUT FOR JUST THEM. YOU HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. I'M NOT SAYING NOT EVERYBODY DOES THAT, BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T. ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE, OKAY. SOME PEOPLE ARE ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR THEM.

I LOOK AT MY JOB AS LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CITY OF HUTTO. HOW DO WE MAKE HUTTO GROW AND MAKE IT MORE PROSPEROUS AND HOW DO WE USE THE FACILITIES? WHEN THE FARMERS MARKET HAVE A RAINY DAY, DO YOU WANT TO BE IN THE RAIN? YOU CAN'T ALWAYS MOVE TO A PARKING LOT. SO THERE IS A NEW BUILDING THAT WE JUST TOOK THE CO-OP BACK OVER JUST THIS PAST YEAR. SO WE NOW OWN THAT BUILDING. THE ONLY THING IT'S MISSING IS A RESTROOM. IT HAS A WAY TO PROTECT EVERYBODY FROM THE ELEMENTS. IT ALSO HAS A WHOLE LOT BETTER VISIBILITY TO 79 THAN E STREET DOES. SO THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS HOW DO WE EXPAND THINGS AND MAKE IT MORE OF A LEVELED PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYBODY TO GET IN NOT JUST THE ONES THAT FILL OUT A PERMIT. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION. I THINK FEBRUARY 1, IT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD MEETING FOR EVERYBODY TO GO TO THAT'S INTERESTED BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION. WHEN YOU SPEAK ON THE ITEM SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS AND GO BACK AND FORTH. MY HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT UP.

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THAT'S BECAUSE OUR REGULATIONS ARE TOO BURDENSOME. ONE OF THE IDEAS IS TO TAKE THAT AWAY. SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT MORE TO BE SAID. THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS. THAT EVERYBODY FINDS SOMETHING POSITIVE. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SPEAK. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE THE

PEOPLE COME OUT. >> THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THE FARMERS MARKET. >> AND IT IS JUST A COMMENT THAT I'M MAKING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, JOSEPH. WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION OF IT ON FEBRUARY 1.

[10.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]

ALL RIGHT, ON TO ITEM 8 >> -- SORRY, MAYOR, I WANT TO MOVE ONE UP. ITEM 10.1. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WAITED US OUT.

>> ANY OBJECTION? >> HEARING NONE, ITEM 10.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, RE-APPOINTMENTS, AND/OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS, AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA

GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. >> SO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MET AS YOU MAY RECALL ON JANUARY 1, THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE SWITCHED OVER TO MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. WE MET WITH THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR.

WE INTERVIEWED THREE CANDIDATES FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD, AND WE'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH THEIR NAMES TO BE NOMINATED AND TO BE APPOINTED TONIGHT. MORGAN HUBBARD, JAMES MATLOCK, AND STEPHANIE ALBA, ALL TO SERVE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD. THERE'S THREE CURRENT VACANCIES THERE.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER? >> MAYOR SNYDER?

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON?

>> AYE. >> KOLAR?

>> AYE. >> CLARK?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> MAYOR, I DID AN AUDIT AND THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT JUST FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ THEM OFF AND BE REAPPOINTED IN THE CURRENT POSITIONS THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVING. FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, NORMAN DELAY. CHARLOTTE TYRE, RAY ALBA, AND NORMAND DELAY. AND FOR THE BOARD NUMBER THREE, DAN THORNTON, AMBERLY KOLAR, AND SEAN LUCAS.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTIONED BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT? >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? >> AYE.

[8.1. Police Department Quarterly Update (Chief Jeffrey Yarbrough)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ANY OTHER ITEMS ON 11.1?

>> NOT FROM US. >> SO 8.1, POLICE DEPARTMENT

QUARTERLY UPDATE. >> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST MEETING. BUT THE WAY THE DATE HAS FALLEN, WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA FROM THE STATE UNTIL TOMORROW. SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF COUNCIL WOULD BE COMFORTABLE JUST RESCHEDULING THIS FOR THE 18TH, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE QUARTERLY

UPDATE ON THE 18TH. >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. ITEM 8.2,

[8.2. Fritz Park Update Presentation]

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEF BACKGROUND RECAP. THEN DALE CLARK AND SHANE HOWARD ARE HERE AND THEY WILL GO INTO PHASE I AND PHASE II. SO THE PURPOSE TODAY IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF FRITZ PARK RENOVATION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE I AND PHASE II TIMELINES AND SCHEDULES. AND JUST A COUPLE OF REMINDERS IN JULY AS COUNCIL APPROVED THE AGREEMENT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND THE USE OF THE C MARK AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

THEY ALSO APPROVE THE APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE FOR $750,000 MATCHING GRANT. IN AUGUST STAFF COMPLETED THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE RISK AND THOSE ARE BID OUT ON THE APPROPRIATE FORMS. BUT I THINK THROUGH THAT, LET ME TELL YOU. SEPTEMBER, WE INTERVIEWED THE SITE VISIT AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION. JUST AN UPDATE TO FRITZ PARK. WE OPEN APPLICATIONS FOR THE PARENT COMMITTEE TO ASSIST WITH THE PROGRAM AND THE SPLASH PAD AND VENDOR SELECTION. STAFF CONDUCTED BID OPENINGS, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE SALE OF BONDS. OCTOBER, WE SELECTED STR CONSTRUCTERS FOR AN INTERVIEW. THEY APPOINTED A MEMBER TO THE FRITZ PARK PARENT COMMITTEE. AND THE PANEL, THE PANEL CONFIRMED STR AS A QUALIFIED REPORT AND THEY INITIATED THE PLUG-AND-PLAY OPTION OF THE DOG PARK, PICKLE BALLPARK, OR A COMBINATION. NOVEMBER, THE BOND WENT THROUGH AND THE PARENT COMMITTEE REVIEWED FINAL RENDERINGS AND DESIGNS. THEY MADE RECOMMENDED OPENING USING THE SKATE PARK AS A PLUG AND PLAY OPTION. AND 90% OF THE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED FOR PHASE I. THEY FINALIZED THE RANKINGS AS THEY VOTED ON THE PREFERRED VENDOR RANKINGS FOR THE SPLASH PAD AND FOR THE SKATE PARK COMMITTEE AND THEN HERE WE ARE IN JANUARY. OBVIOUSLY GIVING YOU AN UPDATE TODAY AND AN ITEM THAT YOU WILL HAVE IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRIZE FOR PHASE I AND PENDING THE DATA APPROVE AND TO PROCEED AND THEY WILL POINT THE MEMBERS TO THE SKATE PARK. AND ON JANUARY 24 IS WHEN WE WOULD GET A NOTIFICATION IF WE NOTIFY IF WE WIN THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE GRANT AND THAT IS A RECAP. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SHANE HOWARD AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY

QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO DO A QUICK RECAP OF PHASE I AND PHASE II WILL ENTAIL THROUGH THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THIS SUMMER. THEN IN A WORKSHOP, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE NEED AND A GOAL TO GET SOME EARLY WORK DONE ON THIS PROJECT WHILE THE REST OF IT GOT DESIGNED OUT, SO WE RECOMMENDED THE PROCESS TO BREAK THIS UP. AND WHILE KEEPING THEM OPEN AND THAT PIECE THAT IS UP THE HILL IF YOU WILL. IT WILL STAY OUT OF THE WAY WHILE WE GET THE REST OF THE DESIGN DONE, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE THROUGH MAY OF THIS YEAR AND THEN THE FULL PHASE II WILL BEGIN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS WELL. TO JEFF'S POINT, WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH THE CITY PANEL.

AND THEY'VE BEEN ENGAGED EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES WITH THE CITY TO GET TO THIS POINT. AND THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT AND THEY SPENT ONE VERY COLD RAINY AFTERNOON OUT THERE WITH US TOGETHER, TAKING A LOOK AT SOME THINGS IN THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT STAGE WITH THE ROUGH GRADING PLAN AND SOME OTHER THINGS. AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER SO FAR TO BOTH OF YOU AND TO US AS A DESIGN TEAM. SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AS WE GET THIS DONE. AND THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR PHASE TWO. THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THINGS AND THAT SPLASH PAD AND GETTING THE PARKING LOT TAKING CARE OF AND ALL THE PAVILION WORK AND ALL THAT, THEY WILL BE WORKING ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTATION FROM JANUARY THROUGH APRIL, REALLY INTO MAY OF THIS YEAR.

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

WAY THAT YOU EXPECTED. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> AND ARE WE TALKING TO THAT CHURCH ON I FORGET WHAT SIDE, ALL THE WAY BACK, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT IMPEDING ON THEIR PROPERTY AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY OF THE SERVICES OR PLANNED EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE?

>> YES, SIR. AND IF YOU APPROVE THAT CONTRACT TONIGHT, WE'LL DO IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY KNOW THAT IN PHASE I, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WILL FIRST GO IN IS THE FENCING AROUND THERE, SO TO KIND OF KEEP THEIR PRODUCT AND OUR PROPERTY SAFE AND THAT IT IS THE PARK AS WELL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP THEIR INTEREST.

>> IS THAT THE SAME WITH THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SO FAR BACK THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER?

>> IT IS SO FAR BACK. ANY TIME WE DO ANY UPDATES TO THE FIELDS OR THE PARKS, WE'LL NOTICE THE SUPERINTENDENT AS WELL AS THAT PRINCIPAL THERE, SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT

WILL COME UP. >> GREAT.

>> THEY USE THAT PARK A LOT FOR GRADUATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO WE WILL PUT THOSE IN AND WE INFORMED THEM THAT THOSE THINGS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN AT THE PAVILION THIS YEAR.

>> GREAT, AWESOME, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMAN THOMPSON. THAT'S ONE THING TO ADD AND WHAT WE DID IN PHASE ONE AS WELL TO DEFINE WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION ROADWAY PATH WAS GOING TO BE TO GET INTO THAT AREA, SO WE DIDN'T CARVE UP THAT PART OF THE PARK THAT WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL WE GET THERE AS WELL.

THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING. ALL THAT TRAFFIC WILL GO AROUND TO GET UP TO THE HILL IF YOU WILL AND THAT WILL BE FENCED OFF, AND SO THAT PARK WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL WE GET TO PHASE TWO AND WE WILL THEN HAVE A BIG GRAND OPENING HOPEFULLY BY NEXT

SPRING, YOU KNOW, SPRING OF 25. >> YEAH, THANK FOR BEING MINDFUL OF KEEPING THAT PARK OPEN AND WHILE THOSE

PROGRESSIONS ARE HAPPENING. >> AND WITH STAFF, IT HAS BEEN

DILIGENT ABOUT IT. >> AND WHAT PART WILL REMAIN

OPEN? >> EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE USE RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HILLS. SO IF YOU DREW A LINE FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE BATHROOM. AND MAYBE 10, 15 FEET. AND THEN YOU JUST WENT NORTH WITH IT, A LITTLE CURVATURE WITH IT. WE ARE FOLLOWING A LINE FRANKLY BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO HELP US WHEN WE WOULD GO DO SOME OF

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>> OKAY. >> AND YEAH, IT WILL BEND BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE THE SUBDIVISION COMES IN BECAUSE WE WANT TO PREVENT THEM FROM COMING IN.

>> SO THE PLAYGROUNDS AND THE VOLLEYBALL HIT AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THOSE ARE STILL THERE?

>> THEY ARE GOOD TO GO UNTIL WE WOULD GET TO JUNE, JULY,

>> THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT IN PHASE I, BUT MAYBE PHASE II.

AND I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALS. BUT I JUST WANT TO, I GUESS, BE INSURED THAT THE POWER LINES THAT WILL RUN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS THERE, THAT I GUESS WHAT IS THE FUTURE FOR THOSE POWER LINES OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I FEEL AS IF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE IS A RIGHT OF WAY THAT IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE A STREET, RIGHT, AT THAT POINT. BUT I WILL JUST HAVE THOSE CONCERNS AND THAT THEY WOULD GO TO THE UNDERGROUND FOR THAT PART.

>> THE PORTION OF ALL OF THAT AND THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED WITH STAFF QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT RIGHT OF WAY. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COVER IT WITH THAT EXCEPTION OF DEALING WITH THE UTILITIES THAT ARE THERE AND THAT ABOVEGROUND FOR THIS PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT IT SHOULD NOT AFFECT ANYTHING WITH THE PARK. AND I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WILL BE ABANDONING THAT RIGHT OF WAY, BUT YOU WON'T MAKE A USE OF IT WITH THE ROAD. SO IT WILL BECOME A PART OF THE PARK.

>> THE POWER LINES, THEY WILL STAY THERE AND REMAIN THERE

ABOVEGROUND? >> AS A PART OF THE PROJECT, THAT IT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE HAD AS FAR AS POTENTIALLY INCLUDING THE COPE. THAT'LL BE A SECOND QUESTION PROBABLY.

MORE OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THAT AND THAT DESIGN, WHICH IS A VALID THING TO LOOK AT, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW AND IT IS NOT A

PART OF THIS PROJECT. >> OKAY, SO IT'S NOT A PART OF

THE PROJECT? >> NO.

>> AND THEY WILL BE THERE. THEY'LL BE THERE.

>> OKAY. >> AND THEN WHENEVER YOU ARE JUST KIND OF GIVING US THE RUNDOWN. MAYBE YOU COULD CLARIFY OR HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND IT. THAT THEY HAD SOME CONTRACT ISSUES WITH THE CITY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A

LITTLE BIT MORE? >> AND THAT ISSUE IS PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD AND JUST GETTING THROUGH, TAKING THAT CONTRACT AND THAT IS WHAT I MEANT BY THAT AND I APOLOGIZE.

>> YEAH, IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY EAR.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND THERE IS NO INSINUATION IN ISSUES. JUST A NORMAL PROCESS. BAD CHOICE OF WORDS IS

MY PART. >> AND OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. WHAT PERCENT ARE WE CURRENTLY AT

WITH THIS? >> SO WE ARE BEGINNING THE DOCUMENT PHASE FOR PHASE II. THE DOCUMENTS FOR PHASE ONE THAT HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE NOVEMBER. AND PHASE TWO, WE WIL WHERE WE GET THINGS SET. AND WHERE THEY WILL BRING IN WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEERS MORE DEEPLY AND INTO GETTING ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. ONCE ALL OF THAT IS SAID AND THERE ARE CHOICES, SPLASH SELECTIONS, ALL OF THAT, THAT THEY HAD GET TO SPEND A LOT OF THEIR TIME ON TOGETHER, PICKING COLORS. AND ALSO THE PARENTS COMMITTEE AND ALL THAT IS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE SET AND A LOT OF THAT IS SET THAT WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF LIGHTING, WE KNOW WHAT WE WILL BE DOING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. AND SO THAT IS ALL DONE ON PHASE ONE. IT'S READY TO GO AND SINCE THE END OF NOVEMBER FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE.

>> AND WHAT DOES THAT SAVE US? AND WHAT DOES THAT SAVE US TIME WISE? IT IS A GOAL THAT WE ALL HAD AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS THING STARTED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT WE CREATED THE PACKAGE, IN WHICH YOU COULD GET THAT STARTED. IT WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILER OUT THERE AND SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO

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YEAR AS OPPOSED TO LIGHTER. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, IT CAN'T BE, I MEAN WHAT IS IT? FOUR TO SIX WEEKS OF GRADING WORK? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FOUR TO SIX MONTHS?

>> NO. IT'S A HANDFUL OF WEEKS.

>> AND I FEEL LIKE WE ARE RUSHING TO THE POINT WHERE WE JUST WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE, SO WE'RE GOING TO PAY. I MEAN SOMEONE HAS GOT TO PAY FOR THAT TRAILER EVERY WEEK IT'S

NOT BEING USED, RIGHT? >> AND JEFF COULD PROBABLY ATTEST TO THIS OR PATRICIA CAN AND THE ARRANGEMENT THAT STR THREW OUT THERE THAT THEY ARE CHARGING THEM.

>> AND IF THAT SITS HERE FOR FOUR MONTHS AND NOBODY IS USING IT, THERE HAD IS NO CHARGE? THEY ARE JUST EATING THE COST OF THAT TRAILER SITTING THERE. THEY DON'T OWN IT AND THEY ARE

PAYING SOMEBODY FOR IT. >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR, THIS ITEM WILL BE BROUGHT UP, SO A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND I DON'T HAVE IT HANDY AT THIS

TIME ON THE ACTION ITEM. >> BUT YOU UNDERSTAND?

>> YES, THE PEOPLE ARE JUST PAYING MONEY TO GET IT STARTED AND THAT WE WOULD WATCH IT FOR FOUR MONTHS AND THAT THEY ARE REMOBILIZING IT TO ME. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, OKAY, THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, HOW ARE THEY GETTING TO AND FROM THE PARK? THE BULLDOZERS, THE GRATERS, THE DUMP TRUCKS.

WHAT'S THE PLAN TO GET THEM TO AND FROM THE PARK?

>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL WORK OUT TOGETHER. THOSE ARE THE LOGISTICS AND ONCE THEY HAVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS THAT WILL BEGIN TO TAKE PLACE AND WILL BE INVOLVED IF SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS TO HELP WITH

THAT. >> THAT'S CONCERNING THAT YOU'RE WANTING US TO APPROVE IT NOW AND THEN COME BACK LATER

WITH A PLAN. >> THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS WORKS,

MAYOR. >> YOU KNOW WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS? IT ALWAYS HURTS THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> ALL THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT IS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND TRUCKS UP AND COUNT RESIDENTIAL TREATS, WHY DIDN'T WE THINK ABOUT IT BETTER, AND THEN I'M BEING IS THE TO VOTE FOR IT NOW AND MY CONCERN HAS BEEN I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT OF THIS PARK AND THERE IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO GET TO THE PARK. THE WHOLE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

THERE'S NOT A DIRECT. SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GO DOWN AND VOTE, OR I HAVE NOT LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SMALL ONES TO TAKE A LEFT AND THEY COULD COME IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALIZE THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC IS COMING HERE AND TO THE CITY MANAGER, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO GO EASTBOUND TO MAKE A LEFT END THAT YOU CAN'T GO FROM SOUTH OF TOWN WITHOUT MAKING A LEFT AND FINDING A WAY TO MAKE IT RIGHT AND TO COME BACK IN. SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE DESIGNING TO SOMEHOW WORK ON A PLAN TO COME OFF OR TO GET THEM IN AND OUT OF THE PARK, THEN WE'RE GOING TO RUN ALL THIS STUFF THROUGH THERE AND WHERE SHE NOT REALLY, IT IS LIKE WE'RE FORGETTING THAT THEY HAVE DONE MANY URBAN PARK PROJECTS IN THE TIGHT COMMUNITY SPACES. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT VERY, VERY BEAUTIFULLY.

>> YOU'RE ONE OF THE DESIGNERS OF IT?

>> EXCUSE ME? >> YOU'RE ONE OF THE DESIGNERS?

>> WE ARE THE DESIGN TEAM. WE'RE THE DESIGN TEAM. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT SITE AND THE CONTRACTOR AND THE CITY HAS CONTROL OF THAT SITE. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR --

>> THAT'S WHEN THEY HAVE 5,000 PEOPLE VISIT THE PARK AND ENJOY ALL THE AMENITIES ON IT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNAGE ON 79.

WE DON'T HAVE. SO YOU GUYS ARE DESIGNING. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE PLAN ON HOW TO GET THEM IN AND OUT OF THERE AND BECAUSE IT

IS A VERY NARROW STREET. >> AND IF THAT IS HOW WE MOVE TO OUR SCOPE, WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE HAVE TO.

>> MAYOR, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HIS.

>> I MEAN WE DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT A PART OF THE EXISTING SCOPE. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD IT TO OUR SCOPE, WE CAN

HAPPILY. >> FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DESIGNED THE PARK, WHAT'S THE PLAN TO GET THEM IN AND OUT AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE PARK?

>> AND AGAIN, MAYOR, THE CONTRACTOR AND THE CITY ALONG WITH OUR ADVICE ON THAT, WE WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY TO COME UP WITH THAT AND THAT IS DETERMINED BY THE CONTRACTOR, NOT BY THE THIRD PARTY. THE OTHER THING WE CERTAINLY, THERE'S BEEN AS FAR AS THE DESIGN GOES, THERE IS NO RUSH. AND TO THE CITY MANAGER A LONG TIME AGO THAT IT WOULD BE

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>> YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A RUSH ON THE DESIGN? AND IT IS A RUSH. NOT START THAT IN JANUARY, WAITING FOR PHASE TWO.

THAT IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE ODD TO ME. BUT IF YOU HAVE A PLAN AND IT IS NOT COSTING YOU MONEY TO REMOBILIZE AND HAVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT THERE AND TO PARK. THAT'S ONE THING. I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN BEFORE. BUT I GUESS LIKE JEFF SAID, THEY WILL FIND THAT AGENDA ITEM. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, THANKS, MAYOR, THANKS, COUNCIL. NEXT, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS

AND THE UPDATES? >> WOULD IT BE OKAY TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK? WE'VE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE AND IT'S IT

ALREADY 10:00. >> ANY OBJECTIONS?

>> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL RECESS AT 9:53.

>> THANK

[12.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-004 approving the Certificate of Formation and Bylaws of Texas Coalition for Affordable Power (“TCAP”), a Political Subdivision Corporation; accepting membership in said corporation; approving the Professional Services Agreement; and committing to budget for energy purchases and to honor the City’s commitments to purchase power for its electrical needs through TCAP and adopting TCAP’S Gexa Energy’s Commercial Electric Service Agreement for power to be provided on and after January 1, 2024 (Alberta Barnett, Anne LaMere, Matt Wojnowski and Margaret Somereve, Executive Director TCAP)]

CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION 2024-004.

APPROVING CERTIFICATION UP FOR THE MISSION AND BYLAWS OF TEXAS CORRELATION FOR AFFORDABLE POWER , A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION CORPORATION, ACCEPTING MEMBERSHIP IN SAID CORPORATION, PROVING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND COMMITTING TO BUDGET FOR ENERGY PURCHASES AND TO HONOR THE CITY'S COMMITMENTS TO PURCHASE POWER PORTS ELECTRIC NEEDS THROUGH TCAP AND ADOPTING TCAP'S COMMERCIAL

ELECTRIC SERVICE AGREEMENT. >> INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR.

TONIGHT, WE HAVE WITH US MARGARET, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TCAP TONIGHT. IN OUR CURRENT ENERGY CONTRACT, IT EXPIRES JUNE OF 2024. THIS STOPS RECOMMENDATION WE BECOME A MEMBER OF TCAP. TEXAS COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE POWER, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE POWER FOR OUR CITY'S NEEDS HERE. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, CAN YOU QUEUE UP THE PRESENTATION?

>> I DID NOT RECEIVE A PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY. I'M SORRY. >> WE HAVE IN THAT PACKET.

>> IT IS IN THE PACKET. MARGARET, IF YOU WILL,.

>> I KNOW THERE ARE BULLET POINTS IN THE PRESENTATION.

SORRY WE DID NOT GET THAT QUEUED UP FOR YOU. PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT AND ALL THE BENEFITS . THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE STATE

OF TEXAS. >> THANK YOU. I WILL TRY AND BE QUICK. I KNOW IT'S A LOT. TALKING ABOUT ELECTRICITY IS A LOT. I WILL TRY AND BE QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING. AND YOU'LL WANT TO GET HOME. PHYSICALLY, TCAP, WE ARE A NONPROFIT POLITICAL SUBDIVISION CORPORATION. WE HAVE 161 THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ARE MEMBERS OF TCAP. WE BUY IN BULK. WE GO OUT, COMBINE ALL OF THE MEMBERS USAGE TOGETHER. WE GO OUT INTO THE WHOLESALE MARKET AND BUY A CONTRACT FOR OUR MEMBERS. WE DO HAVE A RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER BY SEPARATE CONTACT. ALL THEY DO IS OUR BUILDING. IF WE DON'T LIKE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ASPECT OF OUR PROVIDER, WE CAN CHANGE THE RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER. THE CONTRACT RATE DOES NOT CHANGE. IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO. IF YOU GO TO A BROKER OR ANOTHER RETAIL ELECTRIC PROVIDER. THEY CANNOT DO THAT. WE ARE ALLOWED TO BECAUSE WE ARE WRITTEN INTO THE STATE LAW. BRIEFLY, WHAT MAKES US ATTRACTIVE IS WE ARE CITY ORGANIZATIONS. CITIES HAVE GOOD ELECTRIC LOADS. WE HAVE STREETLIGHTS, BALL FIELD LIGHTS, TREATMENT , SEWER TREATMENT. OUR MEMBERS, THOSE ARE OVERNIGHT HOURS . BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GOOD USAGE FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE A LOTS OF THE WHOLE SALES THAT WANT IN ON OUR CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE ARE SUCH A GOOD LOAD FOR THEM. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LOAD, THE FLATTER YOU ARE IN YOUR USAGE, THE BETTER YOU CAN GET A CONTRACT. THAT IS A

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WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR

COUNCIL? >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD , WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE SMALL MEMBERS?

>> YOU WOULD. IT IS BASED ON KILOWATTS.

>> I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS ON POPULATION. OKAY.

>> BASED ON KILOWATT USAGE. >> DO YOU USE A SPECIFIC

GENERATOR? >> WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE GO OUT FOR MONTHLY RFPS IN THE WHOLESALE MARKET. WE ARE BUYING ONE 12TH OF OUR LOAD EVERY MONTH. IT SPREADS OUT ANY OF THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF THE MARKETS. ELECTRICITY PRICES CHANGE DAILY. RIGHT AFTER WINTER STORM MARY, THEY WERE CHANGING MORE THAN ONCE DAILY. WE PUT IT OUT INTO THE WHOLESALE MARKET. WE ARE NOT ALLOWING ANYONE GENERATOR TO PROVIDE MORE THAN 30% OF THE LOAD, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SQUEEZE OUT EVERYBODY ELSE, WHERE WE ONLY HAVE ONE VENDOR, AND THEY KEEP RAISING THE PRICES , AND EVERYBODY IS NOT WILLING TO BID ON IT. WE ARE GETTING REALLY GOOD PRICES RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING. I WAS TALKING EARLIER , AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 25 PRICE BEING BETWEEN THE HIGH SIXES AND LOW SEVENS, WHICH IS AND WHAT YOU WOULD GET ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES.

>> MY ONLY QUESTION AND CONCERN IS, IF I AM READING THIS RIGHT, WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THE DEAL AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATES COULD BE , BUT WE THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOWER THAN IF WE DID IT THIS WAY. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE A CONTRACT CURRENTLY, AND WE ARE PAYING ABOUT 14.7 CENTS PER KILOWATT, WHICH IS REALLY HIGH.

IF WE WERE TO GO OUT AND GET OUR OWN CONTRACT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BID ALL THESE MARKETS AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT KIND OF CONTRACT. CURRENTLY , CITIES ARE GETTING 10 OR $.11 PER KILOWATT. BIDDING CURRENTLY TODAY. IF YOU LOOK AT TCAP,

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>> YES. THE CONTRACT WE WOULD GET YOU ALL FOR THAT LITTLE TIME PERIOD , WOULD BE IN THE 8% RANGE. AS SOON AS WE GOT YOU OVER JANUARY 1ST, IT'S FALLING DOWN INTO THE HIGH SIXES, LOW SEVEN RANGE. WE ANNOUNCED THOSE RATES IN MARCH TO THE MEMBERSHIP, SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RATE IS BEFORE THE BUDGET

YEAR STARTS. >> CURRENTLY, THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE CONTRACTS NEGOTIATED, SO THEY CAN'T GIVE US A PRICE.

BASED ON WHAT THE CONTRACTS ARE RUNNING CURRENTLY, IF WE WERE TO GO OUT TODAY , I COULD SAY IT IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. I DO BELIEVE THE CITY IS GOING TO BE -- I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE. I KNOW YOU HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THAT. THE TRUSTED AND VERIFIED THING, I GOT IT. I DO PROMISE YOU, THOUGH, I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY BUDGET WISE. THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED APPROPRIATELY. WE HAVE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER CARRIER. IF WE WERE TO GO OUT TODAY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD BEAT THE RATES WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET WITH TCAP. WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT INTERNALLY, NOT JUST MYSELF.

WE'VE HAD OTHER STAFF MEMBERS LOOK AT IT. THEY ALL HAVE AGREED THAT TCAP IS THE WAY TO GO. A LOT OF US HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES THAT ARE ACTUAL TCAP MEMBERS. WE'VE BEEN PART OF THE PROGRAM WITH OTHER CITIES . WE KNOW THAT TCAP IS A

GOOD DEAL. >> THIS INFORMATION , WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING 14 ONE. ALL THE PUBLIC SEES IS RATES CAN'T BE DETERMINED AT THIS TIME. RATES WILL BE LOWER LATER. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE JUST GUESSING, WHEN IN REALITY WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. WE ARE MISSING AN IMPORTANT PIECE. IT SOUNDS BETTER. BUT IT WAS NOT IN WRITING. I READ THAT AND,

GO, OH, WE JUST HOPE. >> I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD ASK THE CITY SECRETARY TO INCLUDE MY COMMENTS IN THE MINUTES FOR THIS MEETING IF THAT'S

POSSIBLE. >>

] >> CORRECT.

>>

>> EIGHT IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. CURRENTLY WHAT YOU HAVE.

A YEAR FROM NOW IN JANUARY. >> OKAY, IF THE CITY WANTED A CONTRACT IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT NOW, A PRICE ON THE TABLE, IT IS GOING TO BE A .939. IF YOU SIGN THE CONTRACT TOMORROW, BECAUSE PRICES CHANGE OVERNIGHT, IT COULD BE LOWER, BUT IT WILL BE AROUND THE 8.9 RANGE. LIKE I SAID, THE ACTUAL TODAY PRICE TO SIGN THE SHORT CONTRACT FOR THROUGH DECEMBER IS A .939. WE KNOW 25 WILL -- WE WILL KNOW THAT RAY IN MARCH.

NOW. WE CANNOT SIGN UP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT THROUGH JUNE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE JUNE RATE FOR

ELECTRICITY WILL BE. >> WHAT'S THE DETERMINATION COST? I AM HEARING WE ARE PAYING 14 POINT SOMETHING. I AM HEARING WE CAN GET EIGHT. 40% CHEAPER. WHAT IS THE TERMINATION COST? IS THE TERMINATION COST IS 25,000 BUT WE SAVE 30,000 IN THE FIRST MONTH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A WIN FOR EVERYBODY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ELECTRIC BILL IS IN A

MONTH. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TERMINATION RATE WOULD BE. TYPICALLY THOSE ARE HIGH. THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE UNSOLD POWER. THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU FOR ANY LOSS THEY HAVE ON THE UNSOLD POWER. ANY OTHER FEES THEY WANT TO PUT IN THERE, WE'VE HAD CITIES THAT HAVE HAD LESS. THEY EARLY TERMINATED. DEPENDING ON WHO THEY ARE, WHEN THEY LEAVE -- YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE $300,000. THEY ARE LARGER CITIES. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN ASK FOR IT. WHAT YOUR TERMINATION RATES ARE. THEY WILL TELL YOU. IT'S HARD TO SAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND -- THE OTHER THING FOR YOU TO ROLL IN WITH US, YOU NEED TO APPROVE JOINING TONIGHT. YOU CAN JOIN TONIGHT FOR 2025. IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THROUGH DECEMBER, YOU COULD. YOU COULD JOIN TONIGHT AND SIGN JUNE THROUGH DECEMBER, LIKE I SAID. OR YOU COULD SAY WE ARE

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ARE YOU IN OR ARE YOU OUT. WE ARE GOING TO THROW THE KILOWATTS WITH THE REST OF THE GROUP FOR 2025. WE ARE BUYING TWO YEARS IN ADVANCE. WE ARE BASICALLY BUYING IN 2023. IF YOU WAIT TO GET CLOSER TO JUNE, THE RATES ARE GOING NOWHERE BUT UP. THE CLOSER TO YOUR ON THE EXPIRATION DATE, THE PRICES GO

UP SIGNIFICANTLY. >> SO IF WE AGREED TO JOIN TONIGHT, WE COULD LOCK IN THE A .9 TO START IN JUNE?

>> YES. IS THERE A MEMBERSHIP FEE? I DIDN'T SEE ONE IN THERE.

WE DO HALF OF THE BOARD EVERY YEAR. YOU COULD NOMINATE

SOMEONE FOR NEXT NOVEMBER. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE RATES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS ON THE CONSUMER SIDE IS THAT -- IS APPLE AND ORANGES. SOME INCLUDE OR DON'T INCLUDE ENCORE. TO THE EIGHT CENTS AND 14.7 INCLUDE ?

>> IT DOES NOT INCLUDE A. NO MATTER WHO YOU GO WITH ARE THE

ENCORE RATES. >> DOES INCLUDE THE ENCORE RAY?

DIVIDED BY OUR TOTAL KILOWATTS. >> THAT INCLUDES THE ENCORE

RATES. >> CORRECT.

>> ON THE CONSUMER SIDE -- TYPICALLY FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. WE ARE NOT REALLY PAYING 14.7 VERSUS EIGHT WE ARE PAINT 10 SOMETHING VERSUS EIGHT. IT IS STILL A SAVINGS, BUT IT'S

NOT AS BIG OF A SAVINGS. >> YOU DON'T TALK MUCH, BUT

WHEN HE DOES, WE LISTEN. >> COST OF TRANSMISSION.

>> ALL I HEARD WAS SAVINGS. I AM GOING FOR THAT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHENEVER A WINTER STORM HAPPENS -- WE DIDN'T LOSE POWER. CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PACK CITY DID.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. WITH THIS BEING A GOVERNMENT FACILITY, OBVIOUSLY PD, OTHER BUILDINGS WE HAVE , IS THAT CONSIDERED -- DO YOU ALL HAVE A GUARANTEED POWER SOURCE? I KNOW WE HAVE GENERATORS COMING IN.

IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GOVERNMENT BUILDING? DO WE GIVE

PRIORITY FOR POWER? >> OKAY. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON IN THAT QUESTION.

>> YES. SORRY. >> POWER TO YOUR FACILITIES HAS TO GO TO THE GRID. IF YOU ARE CAUGHT SHUTS THE GRID DOWN LIKE THEY DID THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE YOU GET POWER PER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS MAKING SURE CRITICAL FACILITIES ARE NOW ON THE LIST. ALL THE CITIES SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED THEM TO SAY OUR POLICE STATION IS HERE, OUR FIRE STATION IS HERE. OUR HOSPITAL IS HERE. OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DO THAT AS WELL. THAT GIVES THEM -- BEFORE THE WINTER STORM, THEY DID NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT ANYBODY WAS. THE IDEA IS NOW THAT THEY KNOW, THEY CAN -- OKAY, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT ON. OR NOT THAT ONE. IT ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS TO MAKE SURE FIT -- MAKE SURE CITY FACILITY STAY ON. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT. LIKE I SAID, WE STARTED IN 2001 WHEN THE MARKET CHANGED. WE ARE TRYING TO HELP CITIES CHANGE SO IT DOESN'T GET PASSED THROUGH

TO THE TAXPAYERS. >> JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AMOUNT, WE DO HAVE EMERGENCY PROTOCOL, AND WE DO HAVE GENERATORS. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THERE IS A STORM AND POWER GOES OUT, THE CITY IS GOING TO SHUT DOWN. IT

DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> DOES TCAP HAVE BEST PRACTICES FOR RESOURCES YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER UP IF WE WERE IN A PARTNERSHIP? IS THAT SOMETHING -- I GUESS, CONTINUED LEARNING FOR BEST PRACTICES. BEST WAYS OF -- I DON'T KNOW -- CONSERVING

USAGE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? >> WE DO. WE HAVE PUT OUT ENERGY CONSERVATION TIPS. WE ALSO , THERE'S A CASE STUDY IN

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THEY SAVED ABOUT $2.2 MILLION IN SAVINGS. THEY HELP THEM FIND THAT SAVINGS. WE WILL DO TOP-LEVEL FREE ENERGY AUDITS TO POINT THINGS OUT. WE ARE DOING WEBINARS EVERY MONTH.

THEY ARE 30 MINUTES. LAST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH. THIS MONTH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN SOLAR COMES KNOCKING. A LOT OF CITIES ARE INTERESTED IN SOLAR, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE CONTRACTOR, WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REPUTABLE PEOPLE . THERE ARE SOME NON-REPUTABLE PEOPLE IN THAT BUSINESS. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CONTRACTS CITIES HAVE SAID WE ARE DOING THIS. AND WE SAID DON'T SIGN THIS.

IT'S AWFUL. IT'S NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE ENERGY CONSULTANTS WE USE THE UNDERSTAND THAT AND KNOW WHAT'S GOOD AND NOT AS GOOD. WHAT ARE THE PITFALLS TO LOOK FOR.

AGAIN, MOST CITIES DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN SOLAR PANELS AND HOW THEY WORK. ARE THEY GOOD. WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. ANYTHING A CITY WANTS OR NEEDS, WE WILL HELP THEM IN

THE ENERGY FIELD. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. WE CAN ALL SIT UP HERE AND DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS WE CAN AND TRY TO SOUND KNOWLEDGEABLE. HAVING THAT BACKING TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS , AND INFORM THE PUBLIC, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPERCRITICAL AND VALUABLE.

I AM GLAD TCAP OFFERS SOMETHING LIKE THAT .

>> MR. MAYOR, WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND PERIOD >> MOTION DID -- MOTIONED AND SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM?

>> IN THE ITEM IT SAYS WE AGREE FOR POWER TO BE PROVIDED ON AND AFTER JANUARY 1ST. DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO JUNE 1ST? OR IS THAT WHEN WOULD BE -- WHEN WE WOULD BE GETTING

IT? >> I'M SORRY, IT DOES NEED TO

SAY JUNE 1ST. >> I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CATCH. >> 5.0979 CENTS PAY. IS

NOT THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY? >> WHEN YOUR BILL GETS PASSED US, THE ENCORE RATES JUST FLOW RIGHT THROUGH. IT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME. IT DOESN'T MATTER. HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS IS ENCORE PUTS THEIR COST INTO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.

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CITIES ARE DOING THIS. >> IF I CAN, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, AND LIKE ANN SAID, THE CONTRACT YOU ARE UNDER WAS SIGNED IN 2018. A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 2018. WE HAD WINTER STORM ERIE. WE HAD THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE.

THAT HAS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN ELECTRICITY PRICES.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRACT PRICE WE SIGNED IN

2018 WAS 3.6 CENTS. >> PLUS ENCORE.

>> WE ARE JUST MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. YOU ARE TAKING MY WORD, WE ARE TAKING THE PERSON WE JUST MET FROM TCAP, AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO PUT THE CITY INTO CONTRACT FOR YEAR BASED ON THE THING IN WRITING ON PAPER, JUST VERBAL . HERE'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT I'VE HEARD. NO ONE HAS IT IN WRITING.

THAT'S MY PROBLEM. TALK IS CHEAP. NO ONE WANTS TO PUT IT IN WRITING. WHEN IT'S IN WRITING I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. IN JUNE, IT MAY BE $.18, AND SOMEONE'S GOING TO TELL ME WHOLE OTHER STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. I WOULD JUST LIKE IN WRITING. I NEVER GET IT THAT WAY. THAT'S WHY USUALLY VOTE NO. IF IT'S VERBAL AND NOT IN WRITING, THEN IT'S NOT WORTH VOTING ON. IF SOMEONE GIVES ME SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE CAN HOLD SOMETHING -- SOMEONE TO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

NO ONE CAN DO THAT. FOR ME, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE ELECTRIC CHARGES. DELIVERY, I DON'T CARE ANY -- ABOUT ANY OF THAT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOUR NUMBER INCLUDES THE DELIVERY CHARGE.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY WE USE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR MONTHLY BILL IS. WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS IN A VACUUM WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION. AND WILL FIND OUT HOW WE DID IN SIX MONTHS. LUCKILY WE ARE A SMALL CITY AND IT CAN'T BE THAT BAD BECAUSE OF A BIGGER CITY LIKE DALLAS WOULD HAVE A

BIGGER ISSUE. >> MAYOR, THE 8.939, I CAN PUT THAT IN OUR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW FOR YOU TO SIGN. FOR JUNE 1ST.

THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST. THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE RATE THAT IS GUARANTEED. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE BEFORE JUNE 1ST. IT WON'T CHANGE JUNE 1ST. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ENCORE RATES -- THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS EVERY METER HAS A DIFFERENT ENCORE RATES. ENCORE RATES ARE DETERMINED BY THE METER ON HOW

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AGAIN, YOU SIGNED A CONTRACT PRE-2018. THOSE RATES DON'T EXIST ANYMORE. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A 45 CENT RATE IN THIS MARKET. IT'S NOT THERE. I AM TALKING TO ANOTHER CITY RIGHT NOW. THEY'VE GONE OUT AND GOT A $.12 PRICE. FROM THEIR PROVIDER. THE MARKET IS NOT THERE. THE OTHER THING IS CAUGHT IS PUTTING MORE COSTS INTO THE MARKET TO MAKE SURE THE GRID DOES NOT FAIL. THEY HAVE SPENT OVER $1 BILLION, OR $8 MILLION IN THE LAST YEAR , THAT COMES BACK IN YOUR RATES. EVERYONE IS GOING TO SEE THEIR ELECTRICITY BILLS GOING UP HOW MUCH? WE DON'T KNOW. THE NICE THING ABOUT TCAP IS WE ARE A LARGER GROUP. YOU WOULD JOIN IN WITH THE GROUP. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT YOUR JANUARY 1 RATE IS GOING TO BE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN A .939 CENTS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT FOR YOUR MOTION.

THAT WE ONLY SIGN THE AGREEMENT A .93 STARTING JUNE 1ST.

BECAUSE YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT, RIGHT?

>> I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. THAT'S MY MOTION FOR THE

AMENDMENT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING ANYWAY. A .9 WHAT?

>> 39. >> I WANT HASSELL OVER THE

1000TH OF A CENT. >>

] >> ACTUALLY WE WILL HAVE THOSE PRICES ANNOUNCED TO THE MEMBERSHIP IN MARCH.

>> ANY DISCUSSION OR AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? HEARING NONE,

PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> PASSES OBAMA AND HIS OR HER. THAT LEAVES US --

>> ITEM FOR APRIL TO DISCUSS FURTHER CONTRACT --

>> MARGARET SUMMARY. >> CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THOSE

NUMBERS WITH THE STAFF? >> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER THING. WE ARE AGREEING TO JOIN. ONCE WE ARE JOINING, WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT OUR RATES ARE GOING TO BE . THERE'S NOT

ANOTHER ACTION. >> THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ACTION.

>> HIM AS WE DON'T LIKE THE RATE.

>> IN MARCH, IF THEY POST THEIR RATES --

>> $.25. >> IT WON'T BE $.25.

>> IF SHE SAYS IT SIX OR SEVEN, WE DO ANOTHER ONE AND CONTINUE

THE CONTRACT. >> I GOT IT.

>> WHATEVER. >> COME JANUARY 1 WE ARE TRYING TO FIND -- THEN WE ARE BACK UP TO --

>> KNOW. >> MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT WE JUST DID. I THOUGHT WE AGREED TO JOIN TCAP AND WE WOULD GO WITH YOUR RATES, WHATEVER THEY ARE IN JANUARY, BECAUSE YOU ARE TELLING US THEY ARE GOING TO BE LESS THAN A .9 CENTS. WE AGREED WE ARE GOING TO SIGN THIS CONTRACT STARTING JUNE 1ST. WE ARE PAYING JUST UNDER NINE CENTS, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER THE GROUP IS GETTING. WE WILL FIND OUT IN MARCH. WE ARE EFFECTIVELY GETTING THAT THE FOLLOWING

JANUARY. >> YES. WE DON'T HAVE --

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ACTION TO TAKE AND VOTE.

>>

>> DO WE NEED AN ITEM FOR THAT?

>> WE DON'T HAVE AN ITEM IN THE CALENDAR?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> PUT IT ON CONSENT.

>> OKAY, WHAT IS OUR LEGAL COUNCIL? WHAT JUST HAPPENED AS

FAR AS THAT VOTE? >> FROM JUNE 1ST TO DECEMBER, YOU HAVE A POINT -- WHATEVER THE RATE IS. IN JANUARY.

BECAUSE YOU JOIN THE GROUP AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE AGGRAVATED.

AND INCLUDED. THAT RATE WILL START JANUARY 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST FOR ONE YEAR. EVERY MARCH IS THE SAME PROCESS. YOU WILL

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>> LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NOT 11/12 OF THE LOAD FOR 2025. YOU WILL GET ADDED IN FOR THE LAST 12. THE 11/12 TO THIS POINT ARE SITTING IN THE SIX TO SEVEN CENT RANGE. JANUARY IS A GOOD MONTH TO BUY ELECTRICITY GOING TWO YEARS OUT. WE KNOW THIS MONTHS RFP IS GOING TO STILL STAY IN THAT SIX, EIGHT, 7.1 RANGE. THAT'S WHY I CAN ALMOST -- I WON'T SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLES, BUT YOUR RATE FOR 2025 IS GOING TO BE LOWER

THAN WHAT YOU JUST SIGNED. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANKS, MARGARET .

>> SORRY FOR KEEPING YOU. DRIVE SAFE .

>> BEFORE I CALL MATT OUT, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MOVE ANYTHING UP

BEFORE WE DO A .3. >> IS 12.3 THE ONLY OTHER ITEM

[8.3. Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Updates and Presentations]

YOU HAVE? >> NO.

>> NEVERMIND. >> A .3, CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT

PROJECTS. >> I AM OBJECTING IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MOVE AN ITEM AROUND, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> BEFORE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AGAIN.

>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CITY ENGINEER. CIP PROGRESS UPDATE, SO YOU ARE TRACKING, THIS IS THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER. THIS IS A QUARTERLY UPDATE. IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO THAT WE STARTED THESE UPDATES . THE FIRST TIME I STOOD APPEAR I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAD 50 SOME ODD PROJECTS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER. WE WERE GETTING THEM ROLLING. THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY. AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, MOST OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THE DATE SECTION BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS MOVING. I AM GOING TO FLY THROUGH THEM PRETTY QUICK AND KEEP THIS HIGH LEVEL. OTHERWISE THIS WOULD BE A VERY LONG PRESENTATION , AND WE ARE ALREADY PRETTY LATE INTO THE EVENING. FIRST ONE, COMPLETE. AT 79, 100 DESIGN PLANS ARE IN REVIEW. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE APPROVALS. THAT IS A GOOD THING. THE BAD THING IS, BECAUSE OF THE TEXTILE AND CORE NATIONS IN THEIR TIMELINES, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCHEDULE, WE ARE SHIFTING THINGS TO THE RIGHT. 137, 60% ARE IN REVIEW WITH US AND -- RIGHT NOW. LAKESIDE ESTATES , PHASE THREE, DESIGN PLANS ARE IN REVIEW. THEY ARE GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP CONSTRUCTION THIS MONTH. MEGA SITE IS NOW IN CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING SCHEDULE. WE HAVE THE DESIGN KICKED OFF.

THEY ARE OUT THERE GETTING READY TO DO THE FIELDWORK. YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. 199, THE REPAIRS ARE DONE. INNOVATION. WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE TEXTILE -- TRAFFIC SIGNAL REPORTS. I WILL TELL YOU KNOW, I READ THE REPORT TODAY. I GIVE THEM COMMENTS SO THEY COULD UPDATE IT. THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. EXCHANGE BOULEVARD.

THE REASON THESE ARE IN HERE IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING PEOPLE RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE OVER TOWN. I AM PUSHING EVERY CONSULTANT TEAM TO MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. FIELDWORK IS GOING ON. FIELDWORK IS GOING ON IN EXCHANGE. ON 199 CONSTRUCTION. NORTHWEST TRANSMISSION IS IN FINAL DESIGN. WE ARE STARTING THE PROCESS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. MEGA SITE WATERLINE IS IN CONSTRUCTION.

WE ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY STUFF FOR ENCORE OUT THERE PENDING. THE NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK , WE JUST GOT RIGHTS OF ENTRY. THEY ARE GOING TO START DOING THE FIELDWORK. I HAVE BACKWARD NATION WITH THEM TODAY. WE ARE GOING TO DO THE FIELDWORK AND START WORKING ON IT ONCE WE GET THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND WE WILL GO BACK TO THE LANDOWNER AND START GETTING ACQUISITION. THE TEST -- PRESSURE TESTING WE HAD THAT THIS WEEK . 90% IN REVIEW. WE ARE SCHEDULING THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET PLANS COMPLETED. DOWNTOWN TANK ELEVATION, 100% DESIGN PLANS ARE IN REVIEW. YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE SLIGHT DELAYS THERE. WE ONLY SHIFTED BY ONE QUARTER ON THE DESIGN COMPLETE. GLENWOOD. SURVEY IS COMPLETE. LAND ACQUISITION IS GOING ON. THEN WE ARE GETTING READY TO PUT THAT OUT FOR

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I AM MARKING THIS ONE IT'S COMPLETE. WE NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND WORKED IT OUT. THIS PROJECT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. THAT NEEDS TO COME OFF THE FUNDING AND CIP. WE ARE DONE. THAT IS A SAVINGS TO THE CITY. THE ESTIMATE WAS STILL $150,000. THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS. TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AWARD FOR PHASE ONE. TRAIL LIGHTING, DESIGN IS COMPLETE. WE HAVE IT ON , I BELIEVE, ON CONSENT FOR TONIGHT. CROSS CREEK TRAIL, DESIGN IS COMPLETE. WE ARE PUTTING THAT OUT FOR BID THIS MONTH. HUDDLE LAKE PARK TALK REPLACEMENT IS COMPLETE. REPLACING THE FENCING EFFORTS PARK, INSTALLATION IS NEXT WEEK. PARK SECURITY CAMERAS, 100 PERCENT IN REVIEW. WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION. TAMPA THEATER. WE HAD A WORKSHOP IN DECEMBER.

ALL THE DATES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO TBD UNTIL WE CAN GET UPDATED INFORMATION AND FIGURE OUT THE PATH FORWARD.

PICKLEBALL COURTS, 30% IN REVIEW. WE GET INTO MORE GAIN. WE ARE DOING FIELDWORK. YOU SEE PEOPLE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THOSE CHANNELS, DOING THEIR SERVICE. THAT'S IN PROCESS. THAT IS ME FLYING THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS. IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS POWERPOINT, YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE VERY FEW SLIDES LEFT IN THEIR RESPECT BUCKETS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL IN THE UPDATE BUCKET.

>> WELL-DONE. >> CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? ASK WHAT THE PLAN IS THIS YEAR. THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING THAT. THAT AFFECTS EVERY DITCH. DO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIX IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> NO. WE TOLD THEM, WHEN WE HAVE THE KICKOFF MEETING, WE WANT TO SEE THE SURVEY. WE WANT TO SEE THE PRELIMINARY FLOOD MODELS. THEN WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE CAN WITH THE BUDGET WE HAVE. WE ARE GOING TO START THAT WAY.

FIX THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH.

>> WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, THERE ARE SOME DITCHES THAT LOOK OKAY.

AND THERE ARE DITCHES WHERE FENCES ARE FALLING INTO THE DITCH. DO WE NEED TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND SAY THAT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE FENCE IS FALLING IN? IS THERE A WAY TO -- IT TOOK A YEAR TO DESIGN. HE COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. IT TOOK A YEAR TO LOOK AT THE DITCH, DESIGN IT . I DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK SO LONG. I NERVOUS WHEN WE RUN AROUND.

ARE WE GOING BY VISUAL, OR DO WE NEED TO --

>> I GUESS -- LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH A QUESTION.

IS THE GOAL ONLY TO FIX THE FENCE ISSUE, OR IS IT TO FIX DRAINAGE AND DEAL WITH THE FENCE AT THE SAME TIME? IF WE ARE FIXING THE DRAINAGE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER. IF WE ARE GOING OUT AND FIXING PEOPLE'S FENCES, WE DON'T EVEN NEED A

CONSULTANT FOR THAT. >> FOR ME, PERSONALLY, THE GOAL IS TO DO SOMETHING, AND NOT EVALUATE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPEND SIX MONTHS FIGURING OUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WHEN YOU CAN DRIVE BY AND KNOW IT HAS AN ISSUE, THESE PEOPLE'S YARDS ARE RUNNING INTO IT. YOU CAN DRIVE BY, AND I'M SURE, GO, THAT ONE IS FINE, BALANCE FINE. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S IN POOR SHAPE. HIT THE POOR SHAPE ONE. MY GOAL IS TO GET SOMETHING DONE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS. WE FIXED

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I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING SPED UP.

>> WE USUALLY LIKE TO TAKE -- YOU USUALLY LIKE TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO THINGS RIGHT. IT'S FUNNY TO HEAR YOU SAY YOU WANT

TO GET SOMETHING DONE. >> YOU CAN TELL NOT EVERY

DITCH. >> HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHICH ONE TO START WITH? WE JUST DROVE BY AND SAW THIS DITCH.

THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO FIX THIS ONE FIRST.

>>

>>

>> PRESIDENT AND GET THE REPORT TO YOU GUYS. WE CAN GO OFF THAT.

NOT SEE AN UPDATE FOR 1660. THE LAST MEETING , WE KNEW CONSTRUCTION WAS IMMINENT, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN. WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THAT?

>> 1660, THERE WAS NO UPDATE BECAUSE WE SO THE CONSTRUCTION WAS IN THE PROCESS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, ONCOR IS OUT THERE DIGGING HOLES AND PUTTING IN NEW BULL SO THEY CAN MOVE THEIR LINES. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE , I BELIEVE, IN FEBRUARY , WITH THEIR FIRST PHASE. THEN EVERYBODY ELSE FOLLOWS THEM MOVING THEIR STUFF. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH ALL THE POLL MOVEMENT BY MARCH . AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR OUT THERE SETTING UP EROSION CONTROLS AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO DECREASE SOME OF THE WATER THAT'S IN THE CREEK AREA. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO PUMPING TO GET WATER OUT OF THEIR AREA. THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THEN WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT UTILITY WORK WHERE WE CAN, WHERE WE ARE NOT WAITING FOR ONCOR AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO GET OUT OF OUR WAY. WE ARE DOING THAT NOW. ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO START UNTIL APRIL OR MAY TIMEFRAME. THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL SEE THE BIG IMPACT TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL START SEEING REAL WORK .

TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES WILL GO UP. BARRICADES, THAT KIND OF STUFF. STARTING IN APRIL AND MAY.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> GREAT JOB.

>> NEXT ITEM . CITY MANAGER, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? SOMEONE TALK TO ME ABOUT -- WHO WAS THAT?

>> THAT WAS ME. I WAS POINTING OUT ITEMS NINE, ONE, TWO, AND THREE, WERE ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR DECEMBER CONSIDERATION.

COUNCIL, THAT POINT IN TIME, ASKED TO RESCHEDULE THOSE TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. DUE TO THE NOTION OF DEVELOPING A WATER RESERVATION FEE PROCESS , CR PROCESS. THE ITEM IS ON TONIGHT. 12.5, IF MEMORY SERVES. YOU MIGHT CONSIDER ADDRESSING 12.5 FIRST, SINCE THAT WAS YOUR CONCERN, BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST READINGS OF MINE ONE -- 9.1, 9.2, 9.3. ONE IS ACCEPTING THE PETITION , WHICH IS ALSO IN THE

[12.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution R-2024-012, a resolution adopting the City of Hutto Water Service and Development policy and authorizing the City Manager to enter into Water Capacity Agreements (Matt Rector)]

STATUS OF DEVELOPMENT AREA. >> WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 12.5 UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> ANY OBJECTIONS?

>> HEARING ON, WE WILL GO TO 12.5. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION 2024- 012. A

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>> AS THE CITY MANAGER INDICATED, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN DECEMBER WHEN THE MEADOWBROOK ITEMS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD. THE SECOND MEETING WE BROUGHT FORWARD A DRAFT POLICY ON HOW TO HANDLE THEM MOVING FORWARD. COUNCIL WANTED SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE AND WANTED US TO BRING BACK A REVISED POLICY AT THIS MEETING. WE ATTACHED THE REDLINES TO YOUR AGENDA.

EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE COUNCIL AT THE DECEMBER 14TH MEETING. I THINK IT WAS SIX-MONTH ORIGINALLY. I THINK THE CHANGES YOU HAVE ASKED FOR ARE IN THEIR. JUST AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS ABOUT US RESERVING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE DATES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SINCE 2022, JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS -- I'M AN ENGINEER, SO I LOVE THROWING DATA PEOPLE. WE HAVE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FOR 10,104 WATER EVALUATES. WE RECEIVED -- WASTEWATER . WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 3299. AS I INDICATED, IN THE WORKSHOP EARLIER, THAT'S 50 THAT WERE DONE IN 2023. 20 HAVE BEEN APPROVED. 30 HAVE BEEN OUT THERE IN SPACE WAITING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MOVE FORWARD. AS I INDICATED, THERE IS ONE THAT JUST SENT IN AN APPLICATION I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO YET BECAUSE I WAS WAITING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. WE HAVE RESERVED FOUR FROM ONE WATER SUPPLIER.

FIVE FROM A SECOND WATER SUPPLIER. THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO COME ONLINE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. MY RECOMMENDATION ON A FEE, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME, -- AND THIS IS JUST MY RECOMMENDATION -- IS THAT WE DO THE FEE AT $70 PER LUE PER YEAR. THAT COVERS OUR COSTS.

THOSE ARE THE MAIN CHANGES WE MADE IN THE POLICY. AND FORM

AGREEMENT FROM LAST TIME. >> IS THE 70S SPELLED OUT HERE

IN SOMEWHERE? >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT SPELLED OUT IN THERE. I THINK THE PRIOR CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO STATE THERE WAS A FEE AND WE WERE GOING TO UPDATE THE FEE SCHEDULE , RATHER THAN PUTTING THE FEE IN THE POLICY AND HAVING TO UPDATE THE POLICY EVERY TIME.

>> OH, I SEE. >> OKAY. I AM CONFUSED ON WHAT WE ARE PROVING HERE. I SEE RESOLUTION NUMBER R 2024 12.

352 WE ARE SIGNING . 353 IS ANOTHER RESOLUTION WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER REGARDING WATER. IS THAT PART OF THE RESOLUTION WE ARE PROVING? THIS ONE SAYS 2023 E- 340. IS NOT THE ONE WE DID AND TAKE ACTION ON?

>> THAT'S THE ONE YOU DIDN'T TAKE ACTION ON. WE JUST CHANGE

THE NUMBER. >> IF I TAKE THAT OUT THEN I GET TO ATTACHMENT A ON PAGE 355. IS THAT THE EXHIBIT A WE

ARE GOING WITH? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ATTACHMENT FROM THE FIRST TIME. WE KEPT THE ORIGINAL SO YOU COULD SEE THE ORIGINAL VERSUS WHAT THE

NEW VERSION IS. >> ATTACHMENT B IS FROM THE

ORIGINAL ONE? >> B HAS THE UNDERLINED IN THE.

>> HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. THE FIRST ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY

CHANGES. >> THE FIRST ONE IS THE

ORIGINAL. >> WE'VE GOT B THAT IS REDLINES. THEN ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE E, BUT IT'S NOT LABELED. IT LOOKS LIKE A A REDLINE.

>> WE ARE PROVING THE REDLINES AS PRESENTED IN THESE REDLINES. WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL DOCUMENT WE ARE WORKING ON, IS

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THAT RIGHT? >> THE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS WE WOULD SHARE THE REDLINES WITH YOU GUYS. IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES, WE WOULD BOTH HAVE THE DOCUMENTS HERE TONIGHT SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES .

ANYTHING YOU OUT TONIGHT, WE CAN MAKE THOSE AND YOU APPROVE

THEM. >> IT CONFUSES ME. I WOULD HAVE A CLEAN DOCUMENT AND A REDLINE DOCUMENT. THAT WAY WE CAN SEE WHAT TO VOTE ON AND WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. WE SOMEHOW PUT IN A NEW DOCUMENT. AND MIX IT WITH A REDLINE. I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO APPROVE THE OLD AGREEMENT ALL OVER AGAIN.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UNDER D, PART FOUR, THE APPLICANT WILL PREPARE PLAY -- PREPAY UP FRONT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OUT. THEY ARE GOING TO DO 100%

NONREIMBURSABLE OF THE FEE. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE --

>> IT'S IN THERE. >> 362.

>> BEFORE. >> I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE OVERLY BURDENSOME . ONE RESERVATION. 100% IMPACT FEE.

THREE IS NONREIMBURSABLE PAYMENT. FOUR.

>>

>> NOT UP FRONT. >>

>> PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT. >> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S

HOW WE HAVE IT. >> I ONLY TALKED TO ONE DEVELOPER. HE SEEMED TO LIKE IT. I SAW HIM AT THE WORKSHOP.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R 2024-012 AS APPROVED.

>> GOT IT. >> MOTIONED BY -- ANY

DISCUSSION? >> THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS

TOGETHER. >> IT PUTS THE TAXPAYERS IN A BETTER POSITION, SO THEY ARE NOT FUNDING OTHER PEOPLE'S OTHER PEOPLE'S PROCESS, OR ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GUYS. HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE CALL

THE BOAT. >>

[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-009 approving the municipal services agreement for the proposed annexation of the Meadow Brook tract, 87.8 acres, more or less, of land, located off FM1660S (Ashley Bailey)]

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. WILL GO BACK TO 9.1. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R 2024-009 APPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF THE MEADOWBROOK TRACT, A -- 87.8 AKERS, MORE OR LESS , OF LAND, LOCATED OFF OF FM 1660 S. DID WE LEAVE IT OPEN

>> YES, THIS WAS THE TRACT? HEARING NONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:06:00

P.M. >> DID THIS ONE? I THOUGHT IT WAS 9-2, 9-3 MENTION PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS ONE DOESN'T, 9-1 DOESN'T MENTION THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> QUESTIONS FOR ASHLEY?

>> DO YOU WANT A PRESENTATION?

>> YOU GUYS WANT A PRESENTATION?

>> OKAY, SO I WILL GO ALED AND COMBINE 9.1, 9.2, AND 9.3. IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME VERSE THREE TIMES. SO, THERE IS ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AFTER THAT LAST ITEM WAS VOTED

[03:45:04]

>> MY OPINION IS YES. >> YEAH.

>> YES. >> YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT ON THIS ONE. THIS ACTUALLY TRIGGERED THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION.

>> I KNOW. I WANTED TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ALL OF THEM. SO, THIS PROPERTY IS, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE MAP REALLY QUICK. THIS IS JUST OVER 87 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTH FM1660. JUST WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 134. SO IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT. THERE IS SOME FLOODPLAIN ON THERE, THIS IS A VOLUNTEERING ANNEXATION. WE HAVE TO DO THAT MUNICIPAL SERVICES PLAN. WE ARE DOING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. SO THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IS PUD WITH THE BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY SF2 OR COMMERCIAL WHICH IS ALSO GENERAL COMMERCIAL B2. THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERATELY DENSE THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE. AND IT REALLY KIND OF MATCHES IN WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WITH A KIND OF DIFFERENT LOOK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPROVED DECEMBER OF 2022. SO, WITH THAT, THEY WILL HAVE AMENITIES AND A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

I CAN GET TO THOSE MAPS IN A MINUTE. FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS SURROUNDED BY ETJ PROPERTY THAT IS UNDEVELOPED. THOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO THE NORTH. THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BUT IT IS NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THIS TRACT. SO, THIS DOES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES ON 50 TO 60 LOTS AS WELL AS ATTACHED TOWN HOME UNITS SO WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE MOVE UP HOME. THIS IS IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EVERYTHING WE ARE LOOKING FOR. AS WELL AS THE FACT THEY HAVE INCLUDED IN SOME COMMERCIAL ON THIS. FRONTING ON 1660 SO YOU WILL SEE IN THIS MAP, THERE IS A LARGE SPACE OF GREEN. A LOT OF THAT IS FLOODPLAIN FOR THE CREEK. SO THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE CLOSER TO 1660. THEY WILL HAVE SOME PRIVATE AMENITIES WITHIN THAT OPEN SPACE AND TO THE NORTH AND THAT LIGHTER YELLOW IS ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY THAT RANGES FROM THE ATTACHED TOWN HOMES ALL THE WAY TO 60-FOOT LOTS.

>> AND THE TOWN HOMES ARE FOR PURCHASE RIGHT?

>> YES. >> WE WANT TODAY SHOW YOU WHAT THE CONNECTIVITY LOOKED LIKE HERE. THIS AGAIN IS REALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. THIS IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND CERTAINLY I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WONDERING HOW THEY CAN ALSO APPLY THAT TO THIS PROPERTY. THE LEVEL OF CONNECTIVITY, THE LEVEL OF CONNECTIVITY JUST FOR INTERIOR OPEN SPACE AND BEING ABLE TO GET TO THAT OPEN SPACE AREA TOWARD THE SOUTH. SO PART OF THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF JUST OVER SEVEN-AND-A-HALF UNITS AN ACRE WITHIN THE ALLOWED DENSITY OF FOUR TO 20 THAT WE PROVIDE FOR. AND THERE WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS. WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER. 9-1 IS TO LOOK AT THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE PRIOR TO VOLUNTEERING ANNEXATION ON THE FIRST READING AND WE COULD GET TO THE FIRST READING OF A VOLUNTEERING ANNEXATION AND ALSO, 9-3 WILL BE THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FIRST READING OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

>> QUESTIONS REGARDING 9-1 SINCE THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I CALLED? HEARING NONE. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 9-1.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-224-009 AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> WHO SAID SECOND? >> MAYOR PRO TIM GORDON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> I THINK RANDALL WOULD LIKE

TO SAY SOMETHING. >> HAD WE REACHED OUT WITH THE

DEVELOPMENT. >> I THINK THIS IS JUST A MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. SO IT WILL DEAL UTILITIES.

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ANNEXATION OR PROBABLY THE PUD. >> I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THE ISD IS AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS WAS NOT AN AREA WE HAD LOOK AT FOR ANY SORT OF SCHOOL OR IT WASN'T DESIRED AT THAT TIME WE WERE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS. SO, THE DISCUSSIONS WERE HAD BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE HAD REQUESTED THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE IT WASN'T REQUESTED OF US.

>> THANK YOU. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THE MUNITION PAL SERVICES AGREEMENT? HEARING NONE, CALL

THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER COLAR, THORNTON, MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. MAYOR SNYDER. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK? COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT.

[9.2. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. 0-2024-001 approving the Annexation of the Meadow Brook Tract, 87.8 acres, more or less, of land, and to Establish the Base Zoning as Single Family (SF-2) and Commercial (B-2) located off FM 1660S (First Reading) (Ashley Bailey)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 9.2. CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON O-24-001 APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF THE MEADOW BROOK TRACK AND TO ESTABLISH THE BASE ZONING AND SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL B2.

>> SO JUST TO RECAP WHAT I ALREADY SAID, THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. WE CAN NOW PROCEED WITH THE FIRST READING OF A VOLUNTEERING ANNEXATION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 9.2 AS PRESENTED.

>> BEFORE YOU DO THAT, HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OH, SORRY. >> SO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. 11:14 P.M. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THE THE MEADOW BROOK TRACT BEING ANNEXED? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE AT 11:15 P.M. COUNCILMEMBER

THOMPSON? >> MOTION TO APPROVE 9.2

ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-2024-001. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> WILCOTT?

>> YOU GUYS SOUND SO MUCH ALIKE.

>> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE

MOTION? >> I HAVE NO.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON.

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON?

[9.3. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-002 for the Planned Unit Development (PUD) request for the property known as Meadow Brook Planned Unit Development (PUD), 87.8 acres, more or less, of land, located off FM1660S (First Reading) (Ashley Bailey)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. THAT BRIDGES US TO ITEM 9.3. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 0.224.002 FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD87.8 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED OFF F.M. 1660 SOUTH.

>> OKAY, SO THIS IS THE LAST OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS RELATED TO MEADOW BROOK. WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY, THIS MORE THAN MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EXCEEDS IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS. SO, STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> WOULD THEY BE THE ONES TO SHOW US THIS EXHIBIT?

>> THEY CAN. >> I DO WANT TO SEE IT.

>> OKAY. >> I WANT TO SEE THE BENEFIT.

>> I LET THEM HAVE ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES.

>> THEY ARE IN A PACKET. >> THEY HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE

11:00. >> THEY MIGHT AS WELL.

>> MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE IT WAS WORTH THEIR WAIT.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. WE HAVE OUR FULL TEAM HERE TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. AGAIN, WE ARE COMING UP ON THREE YEARS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND PRESENTING THE COUNCIL. SO, WE ARE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THIS PROJECT GOING. IT MIRRORS WHAT WE DISCUSSED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 21. IF YOU HAVE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS, WILL LET ABBY TALK ABOUT OUR PLAN. SHE IS WELL VERSED IN IT.

>> THANKS JOHN. SO ABBY GILFONE. WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK ON THIS PLAN. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS PACKAGE. WE DESIGNED THIS PLAN WITH REALLY FIVE GOALS IN MIND. ONE BEING

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THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE GET AROUND A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES WILL FRONT ONTO COMMON GREENS OR OPEN SPACES.

THE STREETS ARE SHADED AND HAVE TREES ALONG THEM. WIDER SIDEWALKS THAN NORMAL. AND SO, REALLY AN ACTIVATED CONNECTED COMMUNITY FOR THE NEW RESIDENTS OF HUTTO. SO YEAH. WITH THAT, I WILL JUST APPRECIATE BEING HERE AND YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE. RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS IN THE PAST. PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD PRESENT, GET GOING.

AND WE NEED SOME RIGHT AWAY. THAT IS WHY YOU LEAVE CITY HALL AND YOU GO WESTBOUND, YOU WILL NOTICE THE ROAD DOESN'T LINE UP. WE BUILT A BUILDING BEFORE THE ROAD LINED UP. SO HERE IS MY QUESTION. WE ONLY HAVE 80 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY FOR 1660. 30 FEET ON THE NORTH SIDE. HAS STAFF LOOKED AT THAT AND ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT IS ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO WHERE WITH ROUND ABOUTS, SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO GIVE FIVE OR TEN FEET OR SOMETHING. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL PADS RIGHT, IT IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT GOT A LITTLE CONCERNED. IT SEEMS LIKE DEVELOPERS HANDLED IT RIGHT AWAY. AND WE NEED TO COME BACK AND BUY IT FROM YOU. I THINK WE TURNED A CORNER ON THAT. BUT THIS ONE HERE I DON'T REALLY KNOW YET. SO THERE IS THAT. ON PAGE NINE, OF YOUR GUYS', THIS PRESENTATION, IF YOU GUYS GO TO PAGE NINE.

>> OH I'M SORRY. >> IT IS A PERSONAL THING. I

WILL PROBABLY GET DRUG OUT. >> PAGE 127.

>> TELL ME WHERE TO STOP. THERE ARE TREES ON THE STREET. YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON THERE. PAGE 127 THE PACKET. YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE YOU HAD EITHER THE ALLEYS IN THE BACK. THE TREES ARE RUNNING DOWN BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALK. AND I PERSONALLY, I HATE THAT. BECAUSE THAT IS NOW A CITY RESPONSIBILITY. AND I WOULD RATHER YOU GUYS NOT HAVE ANY TREES ON THAT STREET BECAUSE EVERY YEAR, WE ARE HAVING ICE STORMS OR SOMETHING HAPPENING. SO ON THE TOWN HOMES IN THIS PICTURE, I DIDN'T KNOW WE STILL DID THIS. THAT IS WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES ARE SO I'M THINKING DOES THE CITY REALLY WANT TREES BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK? OR IS THERE A BETTER LONG TERM MAINTENANCE. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ISSUES OF TREES CUTTING IN. WATERING THEM. FIXING BROKEN LIMBS.

>> FOR THE MOST PART, RIGHT NOW, THE UDC DOES REQUIRE THE STREET TREES. IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF ANY DEVELOPMENT.

NOT JUST A PUD. I THINK THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HELP.

BECAUSE IT DOES HELP LESSEN THE HEAT COMPLEX WHEN YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALKS. THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE.

THAT IS ONE THING WE HAD NOT DONE WHERE YOU SEE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THE CIVIL PLANS WERE COMING IN, SOMETIMES WE WERE GETTING LIVE OAKS IN THAT NICE LITTLE TREE LAWN.

THAT IS NO LONGER OCCURRING. WE HAVE A LOT MORE OCCURRING. IT COULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT COULD COME UP IN THE UDC. RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD NEED TO LIKELY STICK TO THE STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY SECTION. THE TRAVEL LANES, THE CURB. THE TREE LAWN AND THE

SIDEWALK. >> MR. MAYOR, FOR THE RECORD, OUR CITY MANAGER, A NUMBER OF THE CONCERNS YOU RAISED ARE ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY INCORPORATING A MANDATORY PAYING HOA RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE TREES ARE THERE. MAKING SURE THAT THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS TAKE CARE OF THE TREES AND WATER THE TREES. JUST BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY DOESN'T MEAN IT IS A CITY BURDEN. TAXPAYER BURDEN TO HAVE TO TAKE

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CARE OF. >> RIGHT.

>> AND THE POINT OF THE PUD. >> IT IS ALSO AN EIGHT FOOT DOME DOME. OUTSIDE THE TREE ZONE COMPLETELY.

>> SO, LET ME JUMP INTO THE CONVERSATION. FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY ENGINEER. WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT STREET TREES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY INTERFERE. WHEN A LOT OF PROJECTS COME IN AND THEY ARE THE TRYING TO DO PUDS, I'M SAYING CAN WE MOVE THE STREET TREES TO OUTSIDE THE SIDEWALK.

YOU ARE GETTING THE SHADE ALONG THE SIDEWALK. THAT ALLOWS THAT TREE LAWN AREA TO BE RESERVED STRICTLY FOR UTILITIES SO, TYPICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE A PUE FOR SOME SORT OF UTILITY. WET UTILITIES ARE WITHIN THE ROAD SECTION. IN THE UTILITY AREA YOU ARE REFERRING TO, THE TREE LAWN AREA, YOU MIGHT FIND A GAS LINE, A ELECTRIC LINE. ONE OF THE THINGS ASHLEY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY AS WE STARTED THE UDC REWRITE IS HOW DO WE WANT THINGS TO BE MOVING FORWARD? SO AS WE DO PUDS OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT INGREDIENT,

AGREEMENTS, WE ARE ASKING. >> IS A PUD NOT PART OF THE PROCESS OF A PUDS TO MASSAGE UDC TO YOUR DEVELOPMENTS

LIKING? >> YES.

>> WHEN I HAVE A QUESTION ON IT AND THE UDC SAYS DO THIS, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS TO SAY WE DON'T WANT STREET TREES MAYBE. BUT THEN I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS. LET THEM PICK SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A MAINTENANCE I ISSUE. SOMEONE TELL ME ONE STREET YOU DRIVE BY IN TEN YEARS AND THE TREES ARE BEAUTIFUL. LINED UP, THEY ARE ALL STRAIGHT. THEY ARE BLOOMING. THEY ARE EITHER BROKEN OFF, LAYING ON THE GROUND. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS WHEN THERE IS AN EASIER WAY? JUNIPERS OR SOMETHING. I HAPPENED TO LIVE ON A STREET MORE THAN A DECADE THAT HAD THE STREET TREES EXACTLY THE WAY THESE ARE BEING PROPOSED. THEY WERE MEXICAN SYCAMORES WHICH ARE GIGANTIC TREES. I HAD TWO OF THEM IN MY FRONT YARD IN THAT STRIP. YOU LOOK DOWN THE ENTIRE STREET. AND ALL THE TREES ARE THERE. EVERYTHING IS GROOMED. EVERYTHING LOOKS NICE.

BECAUSE THE HOA MAKES SURE IT STAYS THAT WAY. SO, TO ME, THAT IS WHERE THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WHERE THERE IS NOT GOOD CONTROLS, THEN YOU HAVE PROBLEMS AND WHERE THERE ARE GOOD CONTROLS, IT WORKS FINE. SO.

>> I JUST BRING IT UP. YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE IT OUT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD IS ON PAGE FOUR, WHAT IS THAT FUTURE ROAD THAT GOES TO THE EAST? WHAT IS THAT? SEEMS LIKE IT IS GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. RIGHT? OR AM I

WRONG? >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHT GRAY THAT SERVES THAT YOU GO SOUTH? GOES TO THE SOUTHEAST? SO THAT IS LOVERRINGLY REFERRED TO AS THE HUTTO ARTERIAL. THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO HAND BERNARDINO ROAD. THAT WOULD GO OVER OUR OVERPASS WE ARE WORKING ON.

>> EVENTUALLY FOUR LANE? >> IT WOULD BE A SIX LANE

ROADWAY. >> SO THOSE HOMES ARE GOING TO HAVE JUST FOR YOU GUYS' PSYCH, YOU ARE GETTING READY TO BUILD SOME 60-FOOT LOT. SO THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE IN 700, $800,000 HOUSES BY THEN. AND YOU ARE GETTING READY TO BUILD THEM RIGHT UP NEXT TO SIX LANE DIVIDED ROAD. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE YOU PUT THE TOWN HOMES OR, MULTIFAMILY. BUT I SAW THAT ROADWAY AND I WAS LIKE MAN, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ROAD. BUT MAYBE YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT. IT'S A SELLING THING ON

YOUR END I GUESS. >> AND WE ALIGNED THE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION TO THAT. YOU CAN SEE IT COME IN ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER THERE. BECAUSE THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH ALSO INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE PROJECT. SO THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE PLUS YEARS NOW. IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE IN. IT IS ONE OF THOSE. WE FEEL THAT THE AESTHETIC OF THE COMMUNITY IS

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>> IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, WHO AM I TO TELL YOU HOW TO

SELL YOUR HOMES? >> TRUTHFULLY, IT IS ANOTHER GOOD ACCESS POINT. FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW. IT WILL CREATE A MUCH BETTER ACCESS TO THE NORTH. TO ALL THE NEW STUFF COMING OFF THE 79. I WILL GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION.

THE RIGHT OF WAY ON 1660 ON THE NORTH SIDE, MOST OF THAT IS OPEN SPACE. SO DEDICATING ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THERE IS TRUTHFULLY NOT AN ISSUE. THAT IS SOMETHING THE CITY NEEDS OR REQUIRES THAT IS FINE WITH US. THAT COMMERCIAL SITE THERE, IS REALLY A SINGLE SERVE KIND OF COMMERCIAL.

CONVENIENCE TYPE OF SITUATION. WE KNOW THAT THE CITIES ARE LOOKING FOR THAT AS WELL AS WE HAD SOME FRONTAGE THERE ON 1660. SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING THERE. THE STREET TREES, TRUTHFULLY, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CITIES. THIS CITY'S REQUEST. AND SO, AESTHETICLY THEY LOOK GREAT. WE DO DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER STATES THAT ARE VERY ARID. AND WE CAN GO TO ROUTE. I'M NOT SURE IT WILL FIT WITH THE AESTHETIC WITH WHAT HUTTO HAS BEEN DOING MOVING FORWARD. ALL THE STREET TREES ON THE FRONTAGE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HOMEOWNER.

ALL OF THE TREAT TREES ON THE EASTERN ROAD THERE, THAT'S ALL MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. SO THERE IS MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE WILL BE REQUIREMENTS BY THE HOA. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY A LONG TIME HERE. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE ANNEXATION AND SERVICE AGREEMENT. I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST THE FIRST READING AT THE SAME MEETING. THAT'S OUR GOAL HERE. WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE IN A CERTAIN

ORDER. >> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ANNEXING IN. THAT'S WHY I SAY IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, THAT'S FINE. IF YOU SAID WE DON'T LIKE STREET TREES AND WOULD RATHER DO SOMETHING ELSE, I WOULD PUSH STAFF TO FIGURE THAT OUT. WE HAVE A LANDSCAPING TEMPLATE LIKE YOU'RE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, H DIES. FREEZES IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. OR IT DIES IN DECEMBER AND DRIES OUT. IF YOU

GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT? >> TRUTHFULLY, IT IS TRYING TO INCORPORATE THE CITY'S REQUESTS. WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LANDSCAPE DESIGN PROCESS NOW FOR MEADOWBROOK. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUBMIT SOME. I DON'T THINK IT FITS TO THIS AREA.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A CORN FIELD. THERE IS GREEN IN THIS REGION.

IN COLORADO, WE USE WHAT WE CALL COLORADO-SCAPING. NOT STRAIGHT ZERO. THERE ARE TREES. LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED. THAT ARE LESS WATER CONSUMERS. THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN. WE ARE TALKING WATER. SO WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT DESIGN.

>> COOL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN

A MOTION. OH WAIT A MINUTE. >> DID WE DO THE PUBLIC

HEARING? >> WE DIDN'T DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COME SPEAK REGARDING THE PUD REQUEST FOR MEADOW BROOK? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:31. AND ENTERTAIN THE

MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9.3 ORDINANCE 0-2024-002 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. AND CAN I MAKE THE REVISION OF ADDING THE 10% CUMULATIVE REVISION THAT WAS SUGGESTED?

>> THE WHAT? >> IN THE PUD, YOU WILL SEE THE DEVELOPER IS AT A 5% CUMULATIVE. WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS 10%. MORE STANDARD. THEY CAN HAVE A 10%

VARIANCE. >> CUMULATIVE WHAT?

>> FOR DEVELOPMENT CHANGES. SO, A RISE? LOTS. SO IF THEY WENT 10%, ADDITIONAL WITHIN A REDESIGN, WE COULD NEED TO COME

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BACK. >> YOU GUYS OKAY WITH 10%?

>> YEP. >> OKAY.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT?

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR?

>> AYE. >> SNYDER?

>> AYE. >> CLARK? THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAY

SOMETHING? >> NO. HE SAID AYE.

>> DID HE? >> I SAID AYE.

>> I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM. >> YOU'RE OFF CAMERA. SO YOU ARE ABSENT UNTIL YOU ARE BACK ON CAMERA.

>> HE WAS JUST LIKE. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0.

>> I SAID AYE. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW, ANY POINT, NO ONE CAN SEE YOU, YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERED ABSENT UNTIL YOU

[12.1. Consideration and possible action relating to Resolution No. R-2024-010 of the City of Hutto, Texas, accepting a petition and calling for a public hearing on the creation of the Meadowbrook Public Improvement District (PID) within the City of Hutto, Texas (Sara Cervantes)]

CITY OF HUTTO DISTRICT. >> DIRECTOR OR REAL ESTATE FOR THE RECORD. THIS ITEM IS BUILDING OFF OF WHAT ASHLEY BUILT UP FOR US. SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE. THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT IS 15 DAYS PUSHING IT PAST OUR NEXT MEETING DATE SO IT WILL BE OUR FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO OCCUR. SHOULD HAVE ALL THE NOTES AND

EVERYTHING. ANY QUESTIONS? >> YOU OKAY WITH THAT BEING THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> IT IS EITHER THE FIRST OR LATER. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WITH THE NOTIFICATION TIME LINE.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS STATUTORY. >> CORRECT.

>> CAN'T GO ANY EARLIER. >> IF YOU SAID NO.

>> WE WOULD DO IT ANYWAY. >> OKAY, SO WHAT YOU NEED OUT OF US IS TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 1ST.

>> CORRECT. AND ACCEPT THE PIP ADDITION.

>> SO WHEN WILL WE GET THE DETAILS OF THE ACTUAL PID? WOULD THAT BE ON THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY? I SAW A LOT OF THE DETAILS HERE, BUT IT WAS FROM 2021 SO I GUESS A LOT

OF THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED? >> CORRECT. YEAH. SOME OF THOSE ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN OUR EXEC SESSION LEADER. RIGHT NOW

WE ARE CALLING PUBLIC HEARING. >> TO GET THE PUBLIC HEARING

SET. >> FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE ARE GOING THERE FOR A LEGAL QUESTION? OR WHY WOULD WE TALK ABOUT THE PID IN THE EXECUTIVE

SESSION? >> IT IS JUST A LEGAL REVIEW OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IF THEY ARE REQUESTING A PID AND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONING AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PID

POLICY TOO. >> OKAY. FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL SEND TO SARAH EARLY NEXT WEEK, UPDATED PID FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. SO THEY CAN BE REVIEWED PRIOR, WE'LL HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION AT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. BUT, YOU'LL SEE THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS FOR THAT.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT, TOO?

>> OF COURSE. >> SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR

12-1? >> MOTION TO APPROVE, R-224-010 IS PRESENTED IN ADDITION WITH A CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE

HELD ON WHAT'S THE DATE? >> FEBRUARY 1ST.

>> FEBRUARY 1ST. >> I HAVE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MY YOUR PRO TEM GORDON. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. >> AYE.

>> I'M SORRY? >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ITEM 12.2. YOU SAID WE NEEDED TO?

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>> CAN WE GO TO 11.1? >> HOLY COW. WE SURE DID.

[11.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-003 amending the 2020 Parks, Recreation, Open Space and Trails Master Plan related to the methodology for calculating the parkland dedication fees and amending Appendix A, Article a1.000, Section a1.004, Development fees, of the Code of Ordinances to add the Parkland Fee-in-Lieu of Land Dedication Fees and the Parkland Development Fee (Jeff White)]

CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-2024-003 AMENDING THE 2020 PARKS RECREATION OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN RELATED TO THE METHODOLOGY FOR CALCULATEING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES AND AMENDING APPENDIX A ARTICLE 1.000 SECTION A1.004. DEVELOPMENT FEES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ADD THE PARKLAND FEE IN LIEU

OF LAND DEDICATION U FEES. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL.

I FORGOT TO MENTION HAPPY NEW YEAR. TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE HUTTO PARKLAND METHODOLOGY AND FORMULA. THE SUBJECT IS COMPLEX AND HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WANT TO THANK DOTTY AND HER TEAM FOR WORKING THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF THIS AND WE WILL GO GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION. SO THE PURPOSE IS TO, THE COUNSELOR CONSIDERING TO ADOPT THE PARKLAND METHODOLOGY. WE HAVE A SECOND READING FOR THIS ITEM ON JANUARY 18TH. SO WE HAVE A NEW COUNCILMEMBER. JUST TO RECAP. THE COMPONENTS OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE ARE THERE'S THREE COMPONENTS. ONE IS THE LAND REQUIREMENTS. THEM, THE SECOND IS THE FEES IN LIEU OF LAND AND THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEES. SO, IF THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, AND CAN MEET THE LAND REQUIREMENTS AND IT IS WITHIN OUR PARKS AND MASTER PLAN AND ACCEPTED BY PARKS BOARD, THAT IS WHAT WE GO FOR. IF THEY CAN'T, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FEES IN LIEU OF. THERE IS A TERM CALLED ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY. THAT SAYS THE CITY MUST MAKE SOME EFFORT TO QUANTIFY FINDING AND SUPPORT OF THIS DECISION. TO PROOF OF THE CITIES. TRANSLATES. WE CAN'T POST A FEE WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION OR USE SOMEBODY ELSE'S FEE AS A JUSTIFICATION.

>> TYPICALLY YOU NEED A STUDY TO FIND THE FEE.

>> YES. SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE FORMULA IS THE ASSUMED MARKET VALUE OF THE LAND.

BASICICALLY 16,335 ACRES. THE BODY OF THE LAND WAS ROUGHLY 824 MILLION. YOU DIVIDE THAT AND YOU GET ROUGHLY 50,469 PER ACRE. THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHICH REALTOR YOU TALK TO OR WHICH CALCULATION YOU USE. THAT'S THE NUMBER WE LANDED ON. SO HOW WE DEVELOPED THE FEES IN LIEU OF FORMULA, WE TOOK THE 2020 CENSUS NUMBER. TOOK OUR TOTAL CITY PARK ACREAGE WE GATHERED FROM. THEN, CENSUS HAD THE AVERAGE OCCUPANCY PER DWELLING WAS 2.6 PEOPLE. SO YOU DIVIDE L3, L1 DIVIDED BY L3 AND YOU GET ROUGHLY 10,606 DWELLING UNITS IN HUTTO. SO IT IS DOORS, HOUSES, APARTMENTS, WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. THAT'S THE NUMBER WE CAME UP WITH ON THAT.

IF YOU TAKE L4, WHICH IS THE HOUSES, DWELLING UNITS AND YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THE PARKLAND, YOU GET 35.47. THAT'S THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER PARKLAND THAT WE HAVE. SO WE HAVE 300, 299-ACRE OF PARKLAND. SO THERE'S 35. DWELLING UNITS.

WE TAKE THE MARKET VALUE OF 50,469 AND YOU DIVIDE L6 INTO L5. FOR THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE, WE TOOK THE MOST RECENTLY PARKS AND MASTER PLAN HAD AN OPINION OF PROBABLE COST FOR A 15-ACRE PARK AT 4.6 MILLION. SO YOU DIVIDE THOSE TWO NUMBERS INTO EACH OTHER. AND YOU GET ROUGHLY A

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WHAT OTHER CITIES CHARGE. SO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS.

IF THIS GOT ADOPTED, THE 195 DWELLING APARTMENTS AT $2,300 WOULD BE 448,000. AND HOUSES WOULD BE 485 DWELLING HOUSING UNIT WOULD BE $1.15 MILLION. REMEMBER, IF THEY CAN'T MEET THE LAND OPTION, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FEES. SO, WHY CHANGE THIS NOW? IT SETS US UP FOR LONG TERM GROWTH. LONG TERM SUCCESS. AS WE KNOW IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 15 YEARS, HUTTO IS GOING TO GROW A LOT. YOU SEE A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. THIS IS A WAY TOTURE SOME OF THAT FUNDS COMING IN FROM THAT. COUNCIL HAS REPEATEDLY SIDE GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH. THIS IS ECHOING THAT. IT ALSO PAYS FOR FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. WE ARE USING 1.7 MILLION OF THE PARKLAND FEE FOR NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE CIP. THOSE INCLUDE NEW RESTROOMS, TRAIL EXTENSIONS. PARKS MASTER PLAN. ET CETERA.

AND POTENTIALLY A REDUCTION ON THE GENERAL FUND REQUEST. IF WE HAVE THIS FUND TO DO PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK THOSE THINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I MAY RELY ON MY COLLEAGUES OVER HERE FOR LEGAL QUESTIONS. AND OR JUST THEIR GENERAL

EXPERTISE. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> WAS THERE ANY DIVISION YOU MISSED OR MULTIPLICATION?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. BUT MATH IS NOT MY STRONG SUIT. THE LAST MATH CLASS I TOOK WAS COLLEGE ALGEBRA.

>> I WONDERED IF WE WERE MISSING ANY EXPONENTS.

>> WE MIGHT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU GO BACK? YOU SAID GROWTH. RIGHT THERE. SO WE HAVE AN ITEM.

12-.3. WHERE WE SPENT A MILLION TWO ON SOMETHING AND WE ARE ASKED TO REIMBURSE THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND. AND THIS HERE, THIS IS GOING TO THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND RIGHT?

>> YES. THE FEES WE COLLECT. >> SO THIS IS A CONCERN I'M HAVING BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO PAY BECAUSE IT WILL PAY FOR GROWTH. BUT THEN WE HAVE A HARD TIME SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT. AS SOON AS WE SPEND IT, WE IMMEDIATELY WANT TO REPLENISH THAT ACCOUNT. AND TO ME, THE ACCOUNT OUGHT TO BE, IT SHOULD BE HOLDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SO WERE ARE BORROWING MONEY, RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES SO THAT WE CAN REFUND A FUND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING FOR GROWTH. IF GROWTH IS GOING TO PAY FOR GROWTH, YOU SPEND THE MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT. NOT TAX PEOPLE AND REIMBURSE IT. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LOTS OF PROJECTS BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. BUT I'M OKAY WITH THIS IF I KNEW THE MONEY WAS GOING TO GET SPENT.

BUT IF IT IS JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND NOT GO TOWARD A PARK IMPROVEMENT, AND IT WILL BE SITTING THERE SEVERAL YEARS WHILE WE SPEND IT ON SOMETHING ELSE TO ME ALL PARK

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THERE'S A VALID POINT. >> WHEN WE INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS TO YOU, THERE WAS AN OPTION THAT YOU VOTED FOR JUST TO BRING THAT BACK UP TO RENEW THAT. SO THAT ITEM WILL BE

COMING UP. >> I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING TAXES WHEN WE ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY.

>> SO, THE PARKLAND, THIS FUND CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS. SO IT CAN'T SUPPLEMENT THE GENERAL FUND OF REPAIRING A BROKEN ITEM OR A STAFF ALLOWANCE. IT HAS TO BE FOR PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT OR ACQUISITION. SO SOMETIMES IT MAY SIT THERE A WHILE BECAUSE WE NEED IT TO BUILD UP A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW? THIS YEAR, WE ARE DRAWING DOWN A LOT OF THAT MONEY. SO IF WE DON'T REIMBURSE THE 1.2 MILLION, THIS FUND WILL PRETTY MUCH NOT BE AT ITS END, BUT AT ZERO.

>> FEELS MORE LIKE A RAINY DAY FUND.

>> NOT NECESSARILY A RAINY DAY FUND. BUT JUST IT LIMITS, WITHOUT FUNDS, IT HAS MORE ON THE GENERAL FUND. BECAUSE WE

MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. >> I'LL WAIT FOR MY COMMENTS ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS GOING TO THE SAME FUND I THOUGHT IT WAS.

>> WHAT'S THE CURRENT FEE? TODAY?

>> SO THE CURRENT FEE IS $800. >> SO IT WOULD BE TRIPLE?

>> UH-HUH. GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

>> MY QUESTION WAS, ALL THAT STUFF, MY QUESTION IS WHAT RATIO WE ARE JUST GOING TO GET MONEY OR WE ARE GETTING A BUNCH OF DEVELOPMENT. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT IS THE SCOPE? REDUCING IT BY 10%. WHICH MEANS THAT.

>> SURE. WHAT WE TOOK AS WE BROUGHT THIS UP LAST YEAR, WE REDID THE LANGUAGE IN THE PARKLAND. DEDICATION. AND WE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE COUNCIL RETREAT TO GIVE FEEDBACK. AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE MORE OF THE MONEY. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THAT IS WHERE WE LANDED ON THIS FORMULA TO SET THIS FEE. AND COUNCIL SETS THE FEE. IF THEY WANT TO CHOOSE TO SET A DIFFERENT FEE, YOU CAN GO HIGHER HIGHER.

>> WE WILL ACCELERATE. >> SO

>> SO COUNCILMEMBER, I WILL ADDRESS THAT BASED OFF OF EXPERIENCE WITH DOING SO MANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. THIS IS PREDOMINANTLY AFFECTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, SUBDIVISIONS AND APARTMENTS. THAT IS GENERALLY THE FOLKS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY AFFECTED BY THESE FEES. SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. THEY ARE GENERALLY GOING TO WANT TO DONATE TO THE CITY. THE UNUSABLE LAND. THE FLOODPLAIN, THE CREEK, THE RIPARIAN AREA,

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WHICH IS WHERE THE HOA IS MORE PREVAIL. THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THE DRAINAGE WAY. PARK RECREATIONAL SPACE. BUT NOW IT IS MORE ON A REGIONAL DRAW INSTEAD OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD . I'M SEEING A 15-ACRE PARKLAND MINIMUM, THAT'S TELLING ME THE PARKS BOARD, THE COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID WE DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT POCKET PARKS. IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 15 ACRES WHICH IS SIZABLE ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED AT LEAST A MINOR REGIONAL PARK. IT IS SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 15 ACRES TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ACCEPTED. IF IT IS LESS THAN THAT, CHANCES ARE THE PARKS BOARD IS GOING TO SAY WE ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION UNLESS IT IS CRITICAL TO TRAIL CONNECTION OR IT IS CRITICAL TO AN OVERALL REGIONAL PLAN. YOU CAN SELL HOUSES, YOU CAN COMPETE IN THE MARKET. YOU WILL NOT GET ANY CREDIT FOR THAT. YOU WILL CUT US A CHECK INSTEAD. THAT IS WHERE THIS COMES IN. YOU GENERALLY END UP GETTING BOTH. YOU GENERALLY END UP GETTING THE POCKET PARKS.

THE TRAILS. THE OPEN SPACE. AND ALL THAT STUFF INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE FLOODPLAIN . THAT STUFF STARTS TO HAPPEN NATURALLY. AND WE JUST TAKE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DOLLARS AND PUT IT INTO AN AGGREGATE FUND DEDICATED TO PARKLAND PURCHASE OR PARK IMPROVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE MORE REGIONAL PARK PROJECTS. THAT'S BASICALLY HOW IT ALL

WORKS. >> YOU MISS ANYTHING?

>> SOUNDS LIKE THE FEE OF 2300 ISN'T SO OVERBURDENSOME THEY ARE NOT GOING TO. THEY WILL GIVE US LAND INSTEAD OF THAT FEE. BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US 15 ACRES WHICH WOULD ADD UP TO BE MORE THAN LIKELY A LOT MORE THAN THE 2300 PER

HOUSE. >> YEAH. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 15 ACRES AGAIN. LIKE SAY, IT IS A CRITICAL TRAIL CONNECTION. YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD A TEN FOOT MULTIMODAL TRAIL FROM THE CREEK AMPHITHEATER TO 130. AND, THEY ARE GOING TO DONATE A STRIP OF LAND. THEY WANT CREDIT FOR THAT TO CONNECT THE TRAIL. THAT IS PART OF THE BIGGER PROJECT. BUT FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT WOULD COME IN AND SAY I HAVE A CREEK GOING THROUGH MY PROPERTY, AND 30% OF IT IS FLOODPLAIN, I WANT TO DONATE THAT TO THE CITY. THAT IS WHAT I THINK YOU END UP SEEING IS THOSE SPECIAL AREAS THAT CAN BE DONATED. BUT I THINK THE MAYOR BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME. IT IS LIKE THE COST PER ACRE IS SO MUCH. YOU KNOW. THEY ARE GENERALLY NOT WILLING TO DONATE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY THAT THEY COULD DEVELOP INSTEAD. THEY ARE NOT USUALLY WILLING TO DONATE. BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT INSTEAD.

>> PAYING THE MONEY MORE THAN RESIDENTIAL. TYPICALLY, YOU PAY THE FEE. BECAUSE YOU USED UP THREE ACRES. AND YOU ARE NOT

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>> THE APARTMENTS GENERALLY JUST CUT CHECKS. SO.

>> TO MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON'S POINT, KARMA CREEK IS ONE WE TOOK THE LAND ON, THAT WILL CONNECT INTO THE BRUSHY CREEK REGIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM. THAT WAS A VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND WE HAD. BUT LIKE THE HUTTO TOWN SQUARE ONE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR US AND WE TOOK THE CHECK.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY CLARK, SECONDED BY KOLAR. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> GORDON. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. >> AYE.

[12.6. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-013 regarding Ad Valorem Tax Exemptions for Licensed Childcare Facilities (Mayor Mike Snyder)]

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 12.6 UP NEXT HEARING NONE, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. R-2024-013 REGARDING AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTIONS. WHERE THIS STARTED, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T READ THIS THING EXACTLY. THERE WAS PROPOSITION 2 I BELIEVE. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WAS PASSED?

>> YES. >> WHICH ALLOWS THE CITIES SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO PUT EXEMPTIONS ON PROPERTY THAT IS USED IN THE CHILD CARE BUSINESS. AND DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THIS? YEAH. I APOLOGIZE. YOU GUYS GOT TO SEE

SIX HOURS. >> WELCOME TO TOMORROW.

>> IF YOU GUYS WANT TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES. DO MULTIPL CENTERS. AND, THE NEW ONE, IN DOWNTOWN HUTTO. CURRENTLY, WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL THE CITIES TO HELP US WITH THIS PROP #.

AND BRENDA WILL ABLE TO EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS PROP 2.

>> SO AUSTIN IMMEDIATELY TOOK IT UP. AND OFFERED IT. SO, IN THE AUSTIN AREA, WE HAVE 15 SCHOOLS. WE DID HAVE OTHER

PEOPLE HERE. BUT THEY GAVE UP. >> IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, RAISE YOUR HAND AND I WILL MOVE YOU UP.

>> NO WORRIES. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS LATE. IT'S A THANKLESS JOB, BUT THANK YOU.

BUT WHAT THIS DOES, IT IS NOT ALL CHILD CARE CENTERS. IT IS CHILD CARE CENTERS THAT WILL OFFER 20% OF THEIR ACTIVE CHILDREN AND CHILD CARE. THAT INCENTIVIZES THEM TO GO AHEAD AND OFFER SUBSIDIZED CHILD CARE.

>> AT LEAST 20% HAS TO BE SUBSIDIZED CHILD CARE .

>> SO ANNIE FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. MY POSITION IS WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS NOW. IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET INTO. THE LAW WAS PASSED AND THEN US NOT DO ANYTHING AND WAIT UNTIL MAY AND GO AND DISCUSS THE PROS AND COPS. AND THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. I'M LOOKING MORE FOR DISCUSSION. I

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SO IT MADE ME WONDER IF I WAS LIKE, $10 BILLION FACILITY. CAN THEY THEN CARVE OUT A 1200 SQUARE FOOT PLACE CALLED A CHILD CARE FACILITY AND BOOM, THE WHOLE THING COMES YOU SAID YOU COULD DO THAT WITH RISING 2%. IT IS NOT LIKE THEY CAN JUST PUT A CHILD CARRY CONSULTED THERE. IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THAT CHILDCARE FACILITY EVEN IF IT WAS IN A

STRIP CENTER. >> IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE

WHOLE STRIP CENTER. >> THAT IS WHAT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND ON YOUR LEGAL MEMO, I READ THAT TO BE IF IT WAS IN A STRIP CENTER IT WOULD MAKE THE WHOLE STRIP CENTER BE TAXED

-- >> THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TOO. SPIVAK YOU CANNOT SEPARATE OUT THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT FROM THE REST OF THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. IT IT EITHER APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY OR NOT IS THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT.

>> I'M NOT SAYING HE IS A TERRIBLE GUY THAT IF I WAS PAYING $400 BILLION IN TAXES, I WOULD FIND A WAY TO THE RISING STAR PROGRAM. WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, I WAS TELLING ANDY, IS I THINK THERE IS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND SO IF WE ARE READING THIS CORRECTLY AND THE COMPTROLLER SAYS YES IF YOU PUT SOMETHING IN A SUBURBAN SHOPPING CENTER, THE WHOLE THING GOES TAX-EXEMPT. I DO NOT -- RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT IN EFFECT BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RASH OF -- LOWE'S IS GOING TO HAVE A CHILD CARE FACILITY. IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CHILDCARE BUSINESS BECAUSE OF A PASSION FOR IT AND NOT ALL OF A SUDDEN GET THE HIGH PROPERTY TAX PEOPLE TO START DOING THIS, THEN I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TRY TO LOOK AT. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE GOT HERE. OPEN TO YOU

ALL. >> THE TEXAS RISING STAR PROGRAM IS NOT AN EASY PROGRAM TO GET INTO OR BE A PART OF, THERE ARE SO MANY SPECIFIC THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO SO I DO NOT SEE SOMEONE WHO -- UNLESS THEY ARE REALLY INTERESTED, GETTING APPROVED TO BE A PART OF THE PROGRAM JUST FOR THE

REBATE. >> IF THEY PAY 300 MILLION A YEAR IN TAXES, WITH THAT GIVEN ENOUGH INCENTIVE TO --

>> I DON'T KNOW, MAN. >> THE CHILDCARE CENTER INDUSTRY IS HIGHLY REGULATED. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. TO JUST GET PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WORK THERE, ALL THE HOOPS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH, IT IS NOT SOMETHING TO GO INTO. I WOULD BE SURPRISED -- STATEMENT MY MOM USED TO HAVE AN IN-HOME DAYCARE AND IT WAS HELL ON WHEELS.

>> THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS THAT THESE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE, ARE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES WHICH ARE GOING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE TAKING AN EMPLOYER RELEASE. THE TEXAS LICENSE CHILDCARE ASSOCIATION STARTED LOBBYING YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO GET THESE TAX REBATES AND WE NEVER REALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD EVER HAPPEN. THIS YEAR, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WITH THE CAVEAT THAT 20% WOULD BE SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE. PART OF THE REASON TEXAS RISING STAR IS SO IMPORTANT IS THE QUALITY PIECE BECAUSE YOU CAN BE A CHILDCARE CENTER AND JUST BE A CHILDCARE CENTER, THEY WILL PAY ONE RATE BUT WHEN YOU ARE THE TEXAS RISING STARS, THE REBATE GOES UP SO IT IS A HIGHER-QUALITY . WHEN YOU HAVE HIGHER-QUALITY SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE THEN IT OPENS IT UP TO YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR YOUNG FAMILIES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY, REALLY, ALL THE TIME. I KNOW WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MOM, I WENT, WHAT, CHILDCARE? SO IT REALLY DOES GIVE BACK TO YOUR

PEOPLE. >> THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES TO HAVE EQUITABLE EDUCATION SO YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN GUIDELINES, IT IS NOT JUST DAYCARE, IS ACTUALLY A LEARNING CENTER WHERE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE MET TO GIVE LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS AN EQUITABLE PLAYING FIELD. IT IS AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM , THE REASON WHY THEY OFFER THIS REBATE, I WAS ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER WAS TO KIND OF BRIDGE THAT GAP THAT WE SEE IN EDUCATION OF OUR LOW INCOME KIDS THAT COME IN AT THE BOTTOM LEVEL BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A QUALITY EDUCATION AND FOR THOSE FAMILIES WHO

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>> QUITE OFTEN THE HIGHER-QUALITY CHILDCARE CENTER -- I HAVE BEEN A CENTER DIRECTOR FOR OVER 30 YEARS, I WAS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER PRIOR TO THAT AND IT IS ALWAYS REALLY SAD, THE CHILDREN NEED THE MOST, TRULY GET THE LEAST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL OFFER THE SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE ARE OFFERING MINIMUM WAGE, THEIR WORKERS AREN'T THE GREATEST, AND THOSE ARE THE CHILDREN THAT NEED THE MOST AND THE BEST CARE SO THIS IS A WAY TO BRIDGE THAT TO LET EVERYONE HAVE MORE OF AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS -- THE LATEST IN CHILDCARE , BACK FROM COVID, THEY ARE GETTING SO FULL THAT NO ONE IS ACCEPTING CCS AND WE GET 10, 20 CALLS A DAY AND I STARTED TAKING IT AT THE MOMENT. IN THE HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL ADOPT THAT LAW BECAUSE MY AUSTIN LOCATION ADOPTED IT AND IT IS AN UPPER MEDIUM CLASS BUT WE STILL ARE OFFERING IT FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT CANNOT GET CARE IN THAT AREA. THEY ARE GOING TO BE

APARTMENTS -- >> MIRANDA WANTS TO SPEAK.

>> THAT -- IF WE SAY IT HAS TO BE A STANDALONE BUILDING , IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT WOULD WANT TO GO INTO A STRIP CENTER SO IS THERE A WAY TO MANEUVER A BUSINESS GOING INTO A STRIP

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>> THE LAW SAYS THAT IT APPLIES WITH THE TEXAS STAR AND THE 20% TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE PERSON OWNS AND OPERATES. SO THAT IS A PIECE PROPERTY, OR A PORTION OF THE REAL PROPERTY THAT THE PERSON OWNS AND LEASES TO A PERSON HAS THE PROPERTY SO THAT IS WHY I SAID IT WAS ONLY A PORTION.

IT WASN'T THE ENTIRE STRIP CENTER. SO I DIDN'T WRITE THE STAFF REPORT. THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION IN THE MEMO. AND HER PHYSICAL NOTE, INTERPRETED IT THAT WAY BUT I DO NOT READ IT LIKE THAT. BUT LET'S VERIFY THAT.

>> ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION, WE ARE GETTING THE LEGAL OPINION OF THE INFORMATION, NO OFFENSE TO THE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT THE EAGLE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TELL US BECAUSE I SAW THAT, I CALLED ANDY RIGHT AFTER AND I SAID, HEY, I WOULD GIVE YOU 100% BUT THERE IS NO WAY THAT I CAN ALLOW A DAYCARE TO MOVE INTO THE HOME DEPOT SHOPPING CENTER AND THE WHOLE THING GO BECAUSE IF I AM A DEVELOPER, I AM NOW PUTTING A DAYCARE CENTER HERE BECAUSE IT IS MONEY. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD BRING UP IS ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER IS EXPLORING A MECHANISM TO PROVIDE LICENSE TO REGISTER HOME-BASED CHILDCARE FACILITIES, SIMILAR POPULAR TAX RELEASE TO CREATION OF A FUND, I AM NOT AS INTERESTED IN THAT PERSONALLY, ONLY BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW THE PROCESS TO BE RISING STAR BUT IF I CAN WRITE OFF MY HOUSE I KNOW WHAT I PAID FOR CHILDCARE AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS A RAISE WHEN MY DAUGHTER WENT TO KINDERGARTEN. AND SO IF I COULD WRITE OFF MY ENTIRE HOME TAXES BECAUSE I FOUND A WAY TO BE REGISTERED AND WATCHED MY TWO KIDS AND WATCHED MY NEIGHBORS KID, I THINK THAT REALLY DOES HELP THEM. YOU MAY HAVE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM TO WHERE YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TO TRACK THOUSANDS OF HOMES THAT ARE NOW DAYCARE CENTERS WHERE I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE A SEPARATE INSTITUTION , IT COULD BE A CHURCH, IT COULD BE -- THEY ARE ALREADY TAX-EXEMPT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, I WOULD BE HESITANT TO CREATE A FUND OR

380 PROGRAM WITH HOMEOWNERS. >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOME OF MY SCHOOLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FULL WITHOUT SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THIS. BECAUSE THE SUBSIDY, DOING THE PAPERWORK FOR THE SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE AND -- WE MAY GET NO TAXES BUT IT IS NOT WORTH IT TO ME. THIS MAY BE AN INCENTIVE, IF THEY ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THEY MAY NOT EVEN -- IT IS HARD TO FIND QUALITY SUBSIDIZED CHILDCARE, IT JUST

IS. >> I GUESS FOR ME, I LIKE THAT THIS IS GIVING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, COUNTIES, CITIES , THE AUTHORITY TO DO A TAX ABATEMENT FOR LICENSED CHILDCARE FACILITIES UNDERNEATH ALL THE RULES AND THE LAW. I GUESS THAT IS KIND OF WHERE IT STOPS FOR ME. I FEEL LIKE THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT MAY HAVE BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID. I THINK IF IT WERE TO HAVE HAPPENED BACK IN 2021 WHEN WE WEREN'T REALLY HAVING ISSUES WITH STAFF, COSTS, THINGS OF THAT SORT. HOW YOU PRESENT IT IS THAT YOU ARE ENCOURAGING THIS AND WANTING THIS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU ARE HOPEFUL THAT OTHER BUSINESSES WILL ALSO THE TEXAS RISING STAR PROGRAM. WHICH I THINK IS A VALID ARGUMENT. OR SOMETHING TO PUSH , LIKE AN INITIATIVE TO PUSH, HOWEVER I THINK IT WAS JUST KIND OF BASICALLY RED AS THAT THIS TAX ABATEMENT FOR THESE FACILITIES COULD USE IT TO PAY THEIR TEACHERS MORE , INVEST IN THEIR FACILITIES, OBVIOUSLY USE THOSE SAVINGS FOR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATE BUSINESS, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE WITH THAT MONEY SO IT DOES NOT GIVE US THAT -- I DO NOT LIKE THAT -- I THINK TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, WHAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AND PUT -- WHAT YOU ALL ARE ENCOURAGING, I THINK IT IS GREAT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THAT BUT I THINK IT IS A DELAYED REACTION TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BUSINESS.

DURING COVID, TO THEN BE LIKE, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO HELP OUT THE TEACHER SHORTAGE AND THINGS OF THAT SHORT SO WE CAN INVEST TO MAYBE ATTRACT MORE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS AND MORE TEACHERS. I TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS RATE ,

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CATEGORIES. >> IT ALSO ENABLES MORE PEOPLE TO WORK BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD CHILDCARE. IF YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE -- AFFORDABLE QUALITY CHILDCARE IN YOUR CITY THEN IT ENABLES MORE MOMS TO LEAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO WORK IN THE WORKFORCE SO YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS SPREADING OUT.

IT IS ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE MORE TO THE ECONOMY IN THIS AREA AND IT IS A MORE DESIRABLE PLACE TO WORK BECAUSE I CAN FIND QUALITY CHILDCARE THAT I CAN AFFORD.

>> KIND OF WHERE I AM AT IS THE BURDEN WILL BE PICKED UP ON TWO OTHER TAXPAYERS AND I AM NOT QUITE SURE IF THE OTHER TAXPAYERS -- IF ALL THE TAXPAYERS ARE WILLING TO DO THIS ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE A SMALL COST, RIGHT? IT IS JUST KIND OF

-- >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU ARE PAYING MORE PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE. THEY ARE PAYING

MORE TAXES. IT SPREADS IT OUT. >> I THINK SHE IS TALKING ABOUT A TAX CALCULATION BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE -- I'M SORRY, I FORGOT WHO THE PERSON WAS. I THINK HE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING, SENIORS OVER 65 DISABLED ARE NOT IN THE CALCULATION AND SO THAT IS A WHOLE SEPARATE THING SO IT DID NOT AFFECT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE. WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THEIR TAXES.

BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE RAISING ANYBODY'S TAXES SO -- SHE IS TALKING MORE ABOUT IS A CALCULATION WE FIGHT ABOUT EVERY AUGUST. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM

COUNSEL? >> THE LEGISLATURE PROBABLY DID NOT ADDRESS THAT BEING CHANGED IN THE CALCULATION SO THIS YEAR WE MIGHT BE STUCK BUT IT IS $140,000 MAXIMUM. WE HAVE BEEN GOING UP $2 MILLION EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS SO IT IS NOT -- TO GO UP 1.9 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2 MILLION ISN'T GOING TO REALLY BREAK ANYTHING THIS YEAR. SO I THINK WE CAN EASILY FIGURE THIS OUT AND NOT HAVE IT IMPACT MUCH OF ANYTHING. AS FAR AS THE BENEFIT TO PEOPLE, WE HAVE GOT 31 PROVIDERS , 142,000 MAXIMUM, YOU'RE TALKING AN AVERAGE OF UNDER $5000 PER FACILITY IF THEY WERE ALL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AT 100%. SO THERE IS NOT A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING TO THEM SO THE SIGNING UP FOR THE PROGRAM FOR THE 31 IS STILL A PRETTY BIG BARRIER BECAUSE IT IS ONLY $5000 THEY MIGHT BE SAVING SO I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE ALL 31 OF THEM SIGN UP. I DON'T THINK WE WILL SEE TOO MANY ADDITIONAL ONES SIGN UP. MAYBE ONE OR TWO WILL SAY OKAY, THAT TIPS ME A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE EVERYBODY CHANGE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM THE CITY SIDE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE CHECKS WORK WHERE, HOW DO YOU CERTIFY YOU ARE IN THE PROGRAM AND TO THE STAFF HAD TO GO OUT TO DO WORK TO VERIFY THEY ARE IN THE PROGRAM? WHEN IT IS THE PART OF IT WHERE THE PROPERTY

IS LEASED -- >> I THINK THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION WILL HAVE THE LIST OF THE PEOPLE .

>> CITY STAFF HAS TO GO TO THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION AND VERIFY . THAN THE OTHER PART IS, WHEN IT IS LEASED , THE PROPERTY BENEFIT GOES TO THE OWNER, THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO DOCUMENT THAT THEY ARE PASSING THE SAVINGS ON IN SOME WAY TO THE PERSON THEY ARE LEASING TO. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT HAPPENS AND SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY STAFF HAS TO DO TO VERIFY THAT AND THE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A LOOPHOLE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARTIAL PROPERTY, YOU SAID IF IT WAS LEASED, IT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE IF YOU JUST MAINTAINED YOURSELF AS OWNER OPERATOR FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY, THAT MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A LOOPHOLE AND GET YOUR WHOLE PROPERTY INCLUDED EVEN THOUGH YOU ONLY USED A SMALL PORTION OF IT FOR DAYCARE AS LONG AS YOU ON IT THE WHOLE TIME. AND DO NOT LEASE IT TO ANYBODY. BECAUSE THE WORDING THERE WAS VERY -- IT LOOKS LIKE A LOOPHOLE TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THAT. IF THE LAW IS FLAWED , THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL 2025 BUT IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF THERE WAS A LOOPHOLE THERE.

>> THEY ARE GOING TO GET THE TAX , WHATEVER THE COUNCIL

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HAVING TO VERIFY -- >> THAT IS THE OTHER PART OF THIS. HE PROBABLY SHOULD BE ESTABLISHING THE PLAN SO THEY WILL SAY WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THIS IN MARCH AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL HAVE UNTIL MAY TO IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IF YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS OR NOT. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR PLAN IS AND HOW THEY PLAN TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE REVENUE CALCULATION.

>> IT IS JUST LIKE THE SENIOR THING , WE GAVE IT TO THEM AND IMPLEMENTED IT ON THE PERSON 'S TAX BILL. IF WE PASS THIS AND GIVE IT TO THEM YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW THAT CHILDCARE FACILITY LEASES TO BE ABLE TO GIVE IT TO THEM. I WOULD THINK. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT BUT WE

WILL FIND IT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THOSE ANSWERS FOR SURE AND NOT JUST ASSUME ANSWERS.

>> WHAT IS THE DROP DEAD DATE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS? IS IT AS LATE AS MAY LIKE THIS IS? I FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO BE BEFORE THAT, DOESN'T IT?

>> TEXAS RISING STAR HAS A CALENDAR YEAR, IT IS A SCHOOL CALENDAR YEAR. SO IF YOU GUYS DECIDE YOU CAN OPERATE BY ME, FOR MOST CHILDCARE YOU NEED TWO MONTHS OF SUBSIDY CHILDREN.

THE EARLIER THE BETTER. THAT GIVES US TIME UNTIL AUGUST WHEN TEXAS RISING STAR'S SCHOOL YEAR ENDS TO AT LEAST GET THAT 20% OF OUR ACTIVE ENROLLMENT.

>> IS THERE A DEADLINE FOR WHEN THEY HAVE TO CERTIFY? TO GET IT THIS YEAR? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS EITHER.

>> I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, THEY ARE STILL WORKING ALL OF THIS OUT. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ANSWERS.

IF IT TAKES THE LEGISLATURE TO FIX SOMETHING, IS GOING TO BE

LONGER. >> WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTED THAT THIS IS THEIR . AND THE FAMILY OF HUTTO AND I'M GOING TO GO TO MAYNARD AS WELL TO HELP THE FAMILY OF MAYNARD AS WELL BECAUSE IT IS A MEDIUM CLASS IN THIS COMMUNITY. SOME OF THEM ARE LOW INCOME THAT HAVE BEEN DRIVING AN HOUR JUST TO PUT THEIR CHILDREN AT THE FACILITY THEY CAN FIND. WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING HERE IN OUR HOME WHICH IS HUTTO.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING. WE WOULD HAVE CALLED ON THIS PROBABLY UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LATE.

>> OKAY, GOING BACK UP, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.2. I

[12.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution R-2024-005 regarding payment of all Fritz Park Renovation Costs from $11M Bond Issuance (Anne LaMere and Jeff White)]

BELIEVE CITY MANAGER -- >> I THINK IT IS 12.3 ACTUALLY IS THE ONE THAT -- 12.2 IS ACTUALLY DOING THE GNP FOR

PHASE 1. >> 12.3 WAS WHAT YOU SAID.

>> 12.3 IS THE ONE I AM GOING TO ASK COUNSEL TO RESCHEDULE ITEM 12.3 , THIS IS EFFECTIVELY DEALING WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO REIMBURSE THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND FROM THE BOND FUND OR NOT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THE GMP FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARK PROJECT. WE WILL HOWEVER HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT COME BEFORE COUNSEL ON JANUARY 18TH TO AMEND THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE COST OF THE 1.2 MILLION. BECAUSE IT WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET, IT DID NOT GET ADDED TO THE FISCAL YEAR 24 SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO AUTHORIZE THAT. I HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN STAFF SQUARED AWAY FOR THAT. ONCE WE HAVE THE GMP FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT AND WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS REMAINING, THEN COUNSEL CAN DECIDE, DO YOU WANT TO USE MONEY TO PUT IT BACK IN THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND? DO YOU WANT TO USE THE PARK BOND FUND REMAINING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE? WE WILL MOVE 12.32 A MEETING WITH, THE CITY MANAGER DETERMINES WE ARE READY FOR THAT. AND OTHER HOUSEKEEPING, MAYOR IS OKAY WITH 13.1 MEETING -- MOVING TO THE NEXT MEETING?

[12.2. Consideration and possible action of Resolution No. R-2024-011 authorizing the City Manager to execute a Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) of $277,087 with STR Constructors for Phase 1 of Fritz Park (P02-2023) (Matt Rector)]

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FOR PHASE 1 OF FRITZ PARK. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR, COUNCIL. ONCE AGAIN, CITY ENGINEER . AS INDICATED, THIS ITEM IS THE PHASE 1 GMP, I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS -- THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE PHASE 1 WAS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND SO AS INDICATED, PHASE 1 IS JUST A SICKLY DIRT WORK. IT IS ON THIS WESTERN SIDE OF THE PARK. IT IS PRETTY MUCH SO WE GET OUT THERE, GET THE DIRT MOVING, START DOING SOME EARLY GRADING, DO SOME CLEARING AND GIVING, RUSSIAN CONTROLS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AS INDICATED, WITH SDR, IT IS $277,000.87 -- $277,087. THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS SHOWING THAT IT WOULD START ONCE WE HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE COUNCIL WE WOULD ISSUE AND THEY WOULD MOBILIZE. GOING BACK TO EARLIER QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BEFORE THEY GET RAISED ON THIS, THE WAY WE WORKED OUT THE CONTRACTOR TRAILER ISSUE IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY OWN THEIR OWN TRAILER AND SO THEY ARE NOT RENTING IT FROM ANYBODY ELSE. SO THEY ARE GOING TO MOBILIZE, WHEN THEY PUT THE TRAILER OUT THERE WHEN THEY ARE DONE AND NOBODY IS WORKING ON SITE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THE TRAILER THERE BUT THEY ARE NOT CHARGING US FOR IT. SO THAT IS HOW WE HAVE WORKED OUT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING CHARGED FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO COST TO THEM TO HAVE THEIR TRAILER SITTING THERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED EARLIER WAS HOW IS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PARK? YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY THE WAY WE HAVE GOT LAID OUT ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU, CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE IS RIGHT OFF OF THE DEAD END OF PARK STREET. WHICH DEAD ENDS INTO THE PARK, THERE IS ACTUALLY FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY WERE OBSERVED THERE ALREADY, WE JUST HAVEN'T EXTENDED THE ROAD, SO WE PUT THE CONSTRUCTION INTEREST THERE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WE ARE ROUTING THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT ARROW BASICALLY AROUND THE PARK TO GET INTO THE WORKS OWN.

OF THE ARK? THEY ARE COMING OFF 79, THEY CAME UP 130. HOW DO THEY GET FROM 79 TO THEIR? JUST SO WE CAN TELL PEOPLE , YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

>> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR YET, WE WOULD THLOGI PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING. AND SAY, ARE YOU COMING FROM EAST? ARE YOU COMING WESTBOUND ON 79? BECAUSE THEN WE JUST WANT YOU TURNING NORTH ONTO PARK AND COMING STRAIGHT INTO THE PARK. ARE YOU COMING EASTBOUND ON 79? THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GO PAST 1660 SOUTH AND TRY TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER SO THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT, WHERE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT? AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING THAT WE WOULD NOT ROUTE THEM TO LIVE OAK, THAT WE WOULD ROUTE THEM, IS IT COLLEGE? SOUTH OF THERE. MOSTLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE PULLING ALL THOSE TRAILERS, YOU WANT THE ABILITY TO MANEUVER AND STRAIGHTEN YOURSELF OUT BEFORE YOU ARE MAKING ANOTHER TURN SO IF YOU'RE COMING OFF OF LIVE OAK AND YOU ARE MAKING A SHARP TURN TRYING TO TURN OFF OF LIVE OAK STRAIGHT INTO THE PARK, WHEREAS IF YOU COME OFF OF COLLEGE AND TURN, AND I HAVE TIME TO CORRECT, YOU GO STRAIGHT UP PARK INTO THE PARK.

BUT THAT IS ALL TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THE CONTRACTOR, I CANNOT TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT STREETS TO USE, WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE BRINGING.

>> BUT NEGOTIATE AFTER WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT BECAUSE ONCE WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT, WE COULD PUT IN HERE, IF THE COUNCIL WENT, WE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS ROUTE AND EVERY TIME YOUR CUT BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE THAT ROUTE YOU HAVE TO PAY US $2000 BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIND THEM BECAUSE IT IS A $50 STATE FEE BUT CONTRACTUALLY THEY HAVE TO PAY A SAFETY SO IF WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT NOW, WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEGOTIATE REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, BECAUSE WE MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU NEGOTIATED OR -- YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING?

UNDERSTAND. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, SINCE NO ONE CAN GET THERE EASY, WE HAVE GOT TO GET CREATIVE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT CONCRETE TRUCKS, DIRT TRUCKS , EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THEY DO IT ON EVERY CONSTRUCTION SITE, WE ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO BUT WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS SO NOW WE CAN CONTROL IT. BUT WE CAN CONTROL IT AT THE CONTRACTUAL POINT AND RUNNING THIS ISSUE WITH THE EDC TO WHERE THE COUNCIL APPROVES SOMETHING THREE MONTHS AGO AND THEN DIDN'T GET TO SEE

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>> IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTIVE, WE CAN GO BACK AND REVISE -- THE CONTRACT IS STILL WITH SDR'S LEGAL TEAM , OUR LEGAL TEAM AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM ARE WORKING OUT THE FINAL --

>> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR LEGAL TEAM'S COMMENTS.

>> SO IF THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS ADD A REQUIREMENT ON WHICH PATH THE CONTRACTOR COULD USE, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS. WE DID NOT THINK TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE NORMALLY INCLUDED IN ANY OF OUR CONTRACTS, WE ALWAYS TASH MAC WEATHER BE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS OR PUBLIC DEVELOPMENTS WE ALWAYS HANDLE THAT AS PART OF THE LOGISTICS PORTION OF THE PRECONSTRUCTION. IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE THAT POLICY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

>> THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THE WAY IT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA IS AUTO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT ONCE IT MEETS THE LEGAL SATISFACTION.

THEIR LEGAL COMMENTS YESTERDAY. BUT WE DIDN'T. AND THEN THEY HAVE ASKED FOR MORE TIME UNTIL NEXT WEEK.

>> WE DON'T NEED TO BE APPROVING THIS TODAY ANYWAY.

>> NO. >> DO WE NEED TO MOVE IT TO JANUARY 18TH AND HAVE COMMENTS THEN?

>> I DO NOT WANT TO MOVE IT AND THEN IF WE HAVE COMMENTS, CHANGE AND HAVE TO -- IF WE HAVE COMMENTS I THINK WE SHOULD GET THE COMMENTS OUT NOW. AND THEN YOU CAN ADD COMMENTS THEN IF YOU THOUGHT OF SOMETHING NEW BUT -- BECAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACCESS PATH. HOW IS THAT DELINEATED

AND BLOCKED OFF? >> YOU MEAN ONCE IT IS INSIDE

THE PARK? >> WELL, YEAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE SLEEPING AROUND THE PARK AND YOU HAVE A KID PLAYING BASKETBALL MAYBE LIVES UP IN HIGHLANDS AND WANTS TO HOP ON THEIR BIKE AND GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND UP THE BIKE PATH AND THEY ARE NOT EXPECTING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK. THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SEE A KID GETTING HIT IN THE PARK BECAUSE WE DID NOT CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY.

>> I KNOW THAT WE MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT ADDING THAT TO THE LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT SAYING YOU HAD TO PUT CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE ENTIRE PATH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN GO BACK AND TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT FENCING IT OFF OR WRAPPING IT UP OR IF YOU WANT SIX-FOOT TALL CONSTRUCTION FENCING THROUGH

THAT WHOLE PATH -- >> IF YOU DO THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO SEPARATE. THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.

>> YOU ARE CHANGING THE PRICE AND CUTTING OFF ACCESS. ONE OF THE GOALS WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF DOING THIS SO THAT WE COULD SHOW PROGRESS AND LET US DO PHASE I AND FOLLOW UP WITH PHASE 2 WAS WELL, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT THAT WAY, LET'S KEEP BASICALLY FREE ACCESS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS TO THE PARK. BELIEVE ME, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S LIVES AND SAFETY AND THAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT I THINK OF TOO. BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT AND STILL KEEP DIRECT ACCESS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS? THAT IS A CAVEAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

>> TRUE, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT SAFE THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU KNOW? >> ARE YOU SAYING WHY NOT JUST BUILD THE HORROR -- HOLE PARSING AT ONE TIME?

>> YOUR CUTTING THE PARK IN HALF AND THE PEOPLE ACTING TO GET FROM ONE PART TO THE OTHER AND THAT IS A LOT OF KIDS CUT,

-- IT IS A CONCERN. >> I AM HEARING THAT ISSUE BUT THAT PATH IS GOING TO BE A LEG OVER THERE. AT THE POINT THEY

ARE DOING THAT -- >> WE WILL BE CLOSING AN AREA,

YOU WOULD THINK. >> DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO -- WE JUST CLOSE THE WHOLE PARK DOWN, YOU START CONSTRUCTION, IT OPENS UP SIX MONTHS LATER BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE -- PHASE 1 IS GOING TO HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING BUT I THOUGHT A HIGHWAY GETTING BILLED, WE PLAYED ON THE HIGHWAY ALL SUMMER BECAUSE IT HAD PLACES TO JUMP ON THE BIKES AND DO ALL THAT SO THAT IS A PLAY AREA NOW. IT IS BROKEN OFF SO YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON, WE ARE NOT SAVING MONEY. TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE CREATING A HAZARD AREA THAT IS GOING TO SIT THERE OVER THREE MONTHS WAITING FOR

EVERYTHING ELSE TO KICKOFF. >> REPORTER: IF IT IS JUST TO SHOW THAT WE STARTED AND THEN WE ARE WAITING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS IN BETWEEN, IT IS KIND OF --

>> I WOULD JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE, PERSONALLY.

>> I THINK THIS WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED EARLIER, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED IT, THE WHOLE IDEA OF HIND DOING THE MULTIPLE PHASES WAS BECAUSE THE DIRECTION AT THE TIME WAS, LET'S SHOW PEOPLE THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING SO THAT IS WHY

WE ARE DOING IT THIS WAY . >> BUT I DON'T WANT TO SHOW PEOPLE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING STUPID, YOU KNOW? I DON'T THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO, BUT ALL IT TAKES IS ONE KID TO GET HIT.

>> HONESTLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS DO THE BEST POSSIBLE

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THAT FENCE SO TO SPEAK. >> CAN I INTERJECT SOMETHING HERE? JEFF WYATT, PARKS AND REC, WHEN WE WERE AT BREAK EARLIER I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF HUTTO LUTHERAN CHURCH, THEY MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY, WE HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE ABOUT EITHER USING PART OF THEIR LAND AS A CUT THROUGH TO THE PARK , SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK FORMALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE AS AN OPTION TO POST

TO THIS . >> TO JUST KIND OF DO THE FENCE

AT THE END. >> YEAH.

>> YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A BIG LOOP AROUND.

>> YEAH, BUT THEN IT'S GOING TO TEAR UP -- IS GOING TO TEAR UP THEIR PROPERTY, THOUGH, SO WE HAVE TO EITHER DO SOME -- AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO MAKE THE REPAIRS OR LIVE WITH IT OR WE HAVE TO GRATE IT OR SOMETHING. THEY MAY NOT BE OPPOSED WITH THAT, HE WAS JUST MENTIONING THAT , I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER AS WELL.

>> SAYING YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS AS MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM YOUR CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED TO GO RIGHT THROUGH.

>> IF YOU ARE OPENING UP TO POTENTIAL COSTS TO HAVE TO REPAIR SOMETHING THAT YOU DAMAGE OR BROKE , WHAT IS THE HARM IN CLOSING THE PARK? AND JUST GETTING IT ALL DONE?

>> THERE'S REALLY NO HARM IN CLOSING THE PARK TODAY OTHER THAN THE FACT OF LOSS OF PEOPLE TO BUILD ACCESS.

>> YOU WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY PUSHING MORE TRAFFIC TO OUR OTHER PARKS HERE IN THE CITY . I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY GOING THROUGH POTENTIALLY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THEN DAMAGING SOMETHING AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. I MEAN, THAT IS NOT EVEN -- THAT IS NOT A PLANNED EXPENSE. IT JUST KIND OF SEEMS MORE EFFECTIVE TO JUST CLOSE

THE PARK AND GET IT DONE. >> WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME BETWEEN PHASE 1 IF WE AUTHORIZE IT TONIGHT, VERSUS STARTING

PHASE 2? >> I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, PHASE 2 WAS PROJECTED TO START CONSTRUCTION MAY, JUNE MAYBE JULY? SOMEWHERE IN THERE, JUNE OR JULY? A MEMBER EXACTLY. AND THEN THIS PROJECT , I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE DONE IN, LIKE, 6 TO 7 WEEKS TO DO THE GRADING WORK?

>> 6 TO 7 WEEKS TO GRAY THAT. >> IF WE CLOSE THE PARK, COULD IT BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY? PHASE 1 AND TWO?

>> PHASE 2 IS NOT FINISHED BEING DESIGNED YET. PHASE 2 IS STILL IN DESIGN. PHASE 1 IS JUST THE EARLY PART OF PHASE 2 , BECAUSE PHASE 2 IS THE WHOLE PARK, YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE PHASE 2 OVER THERE, SO AGAIN, PHASE 1 WAS JUST, HEY, WE CAN GO DO SOME WORK OVER HERE AND IT IS NOT GOING TO INTERFERE WITH THE ULTIMATE PLAN. AND SO WE CAN SHOW THAT WE ARE MAKING

PROGRESS. >> IT IS GOING TO INTERFERE NOW

WITH THAT WHOLE THING. >> WHAT TIME DO WE LOSE IF WE JUST DO PHASE I AND PHASE 2 SIMULTANEOUSLY OVERALL?

>> YOU DON'T LOSE ANY TIME BECAUSE YOU ARE IN COMPLETION IS STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME. YOU DON'T LOSE ANY TIME.

>> I SAY WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE. DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE? I

SAY WE JUST -- YEAH. >> JUNE 3RD, PHASE 2 IS SCHEDULED TO START. EVERYTHING STARTS JUNE 3RD?

>> I MEAN, SO SDR IS HERE, THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEM?

>> GOOD EVENING, GUYS. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JON ROBINSON, I AM THE CEO OF SDR CONSTRUCTORS, I WANT TO INTERJECT TO HELP YOU GUYS. AND EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT PHASE 1 AND ALL THIS WORK, MOST OF THAT SITE IS A BALANCE AND WHEN WE SAY BALANCE IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE HAULING A BUNCH OF TRUCKS OR ESCORTING A BUNCH OF TRUCKS. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT GOING AROUND THAT ROADWAY IS HE WILL PROBABLY HAVE ONE DELIVERY OF A FLATBED 18 WHEELER THAT DROPS OFF A SMALL DOZER, EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE PROBABLY A BOBCAT ON A TRAVEL TRAILER, ONE-TIME TO THAT AREA AND THAT WHOLE PHASE I AREA WILL BE FENCED OFF. SO IT WILL NOT BE TRUCKS GOING IN DAY IN, DAY OUT AROUND THIS CURVE. PEOPLE PLAYING, PEOPLE WORKING AT THE PARK, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT SAFETY BECAUSE ONCE WE MAKE THOSE DELIVERIES, WE ARE GOING TO BE INSIDE THAT PHASE I AREA AND ONCE WE ARE DONE GRADING PHASE 1, THE BALANCE OF THE DIRT WILL BE LIKE ONE DAY WHERE WE EXPORT DIRT AND THERE WILL BE SUPERINTENDENTS, SAFETY GUYS IN VESTS DIRECTING TRAFFIC, IT WILL NOT JUST BE TRUCK DRIVERS DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS.

>> IS NOT GOING TO BE EVERYDAY LIKE ALL THOSE TRUCKS GOING IN

AND OUT. >> WHERE WERE YOU AN HOUR AGO?

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AND THEN WE ARE GOOD. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT THAT WAY.

>> WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR DIRT OUT, WILL YOU PAY A FINE TO US CONTRACTUALLY IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE DIRT OUT ON THE PATH THESE GUYS TELL YOU TO? YOU SAY TREKKERS DO NOT GO WHEREVER

THEY WANT TO. >> I'M GOING TO LET MY LEGAL TEAM ANSWER ALL THAT WITH YOUR LEGAL TEAM, I KNOW WE JUST HAD

THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. >> HOLD ON A SECOND, IT IS NOT A LEGAL ISSUE, IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION, RIGHT? YOU ARE TELLING ME , YOU'RE TELLING US YOU CAN TELL TREKKERS WHERE TO GO AND I AM TELLING YOU YOU CAN'T TELL THEM, I AM ALMOST POSITIVE YOU CAN'T AND FOR ONE DAY THE TREKKERS ARE GOING TO RUN WILD ALL OVER OLD TOWNE BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN TREKKERS FOLLOW THE TRUCK ROUTE IN THE PATH. LEGALLY SPEAKING, ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE AGREED TO IS LEGAL BUT ARE YOU GUYS WILLING IF THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO COME UP COLLEGE, THIS IS THE ROUTE YOU HAVE GOT TO GO, FOR ONE DAY, CAN YOU ARE VESTED PEOPLE MAKE SURE PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT THE ONE PATH? IF YOU CAN'T DO IT THAT IS FINE, IT IS JUST EASIER TO TELL THE PUBLIC FOR ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SDR TRUCKING ALL UP AND DOWN ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO GET OUT OF TOWN. 79 WILL BACKUP. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN HURT BY THE CLOCK, IT WILL BACKUP YOU AND I GUARANTEE THOSE GUYS WHO GO ARE THE EASIEST ROUTE OUT OF TIME TO WHEREVER YOU'RE HAULING IT TO, BUT YOU WANT TO SAY IT IS A LEGAL THING? I THINK IT IS A CONTRACTUAL BUSINESS DECISION.

THERE, I WILL TELL HIM. I WILL DO IT, I GOT YOU. I WILL TAKE

CARE OF IT. >> I AM NOT GOING TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING JUST LIKE YOU HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO ANYTHING YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IN WRITING SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT STANCE TOO. I CAN'T COMMIT TO SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN A

PLAN OF. >> MY LEGAL TEAM WILL TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND THEN I CAN MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION.

>> I LIKE THAT BECAUSE STAFF IS ASKING US TO APPROVE A DEAL WITH YOU AND WE WILL FIGURE THE DETAILS OUT LATER. I AM LIKE, WE OUGHT TO HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER AND APPROVE THE PLAN, THE DETAILS, THE CONTRACT ALL AT ONCE AND THAT WAY YOU ARE HAPPY, WE ARE HAPPY AND NO ONE IS UPSET.

>> THE STAFF IS ACTING -- ASKING YOU GUYS TO TAKE YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO APPROVE THE DEAL, NOT YOU GUYS JUST, HEY, GENTLE D1 IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING. THEY ARE ASKING TO GET PERMISSION FROM YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO APPROVE THAT DEAL.

>> NO, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE ARE A LOT OF SUBSTITUTE CHANGES LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT A TRUCK ACCESS PLAN AND IF THEY DO NOT STICK TO IT THEY GET SOME SORT OF FINE OR PENALTY. THAT IS NOT IN HERE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THAT LANGUAGE OUT.

>>

A GOOD POINT. >>

>> YOU KNOW IT IS COMING. >> MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 12.2 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE LEGAL CHANGES ARE BROUGHT BACK TO US. OR -- WITH THE CAVEAT OF THE LEGAL CHANGES COMING BACK TO US.

>> YEAH, SO YOU ARE APPROVING IT AS PRESENTED WITH THE LEGAL

CHANGES ? >> RIGHT, CORRECT, WITH THE LEGAL CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN STR'S LEGAL TEAM AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

>> JUST TO UPDATE EVERYBODY, OUR LEGAL TEAM DID RECEIVE THE CONTRACT UNTIL CHRISTMAS EVE AND SO THAT IS WHY WE HADN'T INTERVIEWED BUT WE WILL GET COMMENTS BACK EITHER LATE TUESDAY OR EARLY WEDNESDAY , YOU GUYS WILL HAVE OUR COMMENTS

BACK FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND. THAT WAS WILL CUT.

>> SECOND BY COUNSELOR WILL CUT. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> THE RECOMMENDED WORDING FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY WAS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT AND ALLOW MINOR MODIFICATIONS AS LONG AS THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNSEL. IS

THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO? >> THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD

WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. >> WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES AND I WOULD PREFER TO MAKE SURE

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I DON'T VOTE FOR ANYTHING UNLESS I ACTUALLY SEE IT, I TRUST DOTTIE AND JAMES BUT I CANNOT VOTE FOR CONTRACTS PERSONALLY THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN BECAUSE WHEN I DO SEE THE END RESULT I GOT A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW I AM TRYING TO GET A COPY OF BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD IT IS VAGUE AND MISSING A BUNCH OF DETAIL OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER DEAL SO WITHOUT SEEING IT, IT IS LIKE I AM GIVING UP MY AUTHORITY AS A VOTING MEMBER AND VOTING BLIND. BUT IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL VOTES THAT WAY IT IS ONLY 277,000.

>> TO ME THIS IS AN URGENT? I WOULD JUST PREFER WE POSTPONE

UNTIL NEXT MEETING. >> I AGREE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> UNTIL SOMEONE PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT. SO ARE YOU PROPOSING

AN AMENDMENT? >>

MAKING A MOTION? >> SURE.

>> DAN, WAS THE SECOND.

>> OKAY. >> THAT WORKS.

>> OKAY, SO YOU ARE OKAY TO THE 18TH? HIS MOTION?

>> 18, YEAH. >> OKAY, SO MOTION IS TO -- CAN YOU DO A TABLE MOTION WHEN THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE OR DO YOU HAVE TO RESEND THE OTHER ONE AND THEN DO A TABLE? APPROVE IT BUT BRING IT BACK ON THE 18TH. AND SO THE AMENDMENT IS JUST TO POSTPONE IT TO THE 18TH. AND SO IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES THEN THE MOTION WOULD BE AMENDED TO JUST BRING IT BACK ON THE 18TH, I GUESS YOU WOULD JUST VOTE AGAIN.

>> OKAY, TWO VOTES. THE FIRST VOTE IS TO POSTPONE, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON?

>> VOTING TO POSTPONE, CORRECT. GOT IT.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOT?

>> AYE. >> MAYOR ?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> AMENDED. MOTION PASSES, 7-0. NOW THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE.

>> AND NOT APPROVE IT? >> NOT APPROVE.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? ARGUE AGAINST IT, IT IS A WEIRD ROLE BUT --

>> MAYOR SNYDER? MAYOR GORDON? COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? COUNCILMEMBER THORTON?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. OKAY.

[14. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> 1:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU ALL.

>> THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 14.1, 14.2, 14.3, 14.4, 14.5, 14.6. ARE THERE ANY THAT ANYONE WISHES TO PULL? THEN, NOT HEARING ANY MOTIONS TO PULL, I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON 14.5 TO ADD IN THE STATESMAN AS AN ADDITIONAL OFFICIAL PAPER RECORD. CAN WE HAVE TWO?

>> I THINK THE LAW SAYS YOU JUST DESIGNATE ONE. YOU CAN ADD INTO THE RESOLUTION TO REQUIRE THE STAFF TO -- IN ADDITION TO YOUR OFFICIAL PAPER -- TO PUBLISH IT IN THE AUSTIN.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND -- THE MOTION TO APPROVE

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>> HOLD ON A SECOND, MAYOR SNYDER MADE A AMENDED MOTION AND MAYOR THORNTON SECONDED IT, COUNCILMEMBER CLARK?

>> SIMULTANEOUS? LIKE IF ONE POSTS AND THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T, ARE WE STILL GOOD? OR DO THEY BOTH HAVE TO POST? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD ADD ON TO THAT TO COUNCILMEMBER CLARK?

>> THE REASON FOR MY MOTION WAS THAT AS I HAVE BEEN INQUIRING ABOUT, HOW COME NO ONE BIDS ON OUR PROJECTS? THEY DO NOT DO BY BOARD, NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THE TAYLOR PRESS AND SOWETO THINGS OUT IN THE SMALL TOWN OF TAYLOR, TEXAS, WHICH I LOVE THEIR PAPER, AND WE EXPECT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS TO SEE THAT PAPER, DIG IN AND START BIDDING ON THEIR PROJECTS. SO IF WE GET ONE PERSON OUTSIDE OF THE METRO AREA IN TAYLOR, TEXAS THAT BIDS ON A PROJECT AND IT COMES IN LOWER BY, SAY, 50,000, IN MY MIND, WE HAVE SAVED A LOT OF

MONEY . >> SO THEN WHY NOT JUST TAKE OUT THE TAYLOR PRESS IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT NO ONE READS IT,

WHY NOT TAKE IT OUT? >> THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THAT IT HAS A PAY WALL, SO NOT EVERYBODY CAN READ THE TAYLOR PRESS. I BROUGHT THAT UP TO, I FORGOT THE REPORTER'S NAME BUT

I BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE -- >> THE STATESMAN HAS A --

>> THAT IS WHY I AM THINKING -- THE COST CANNOT BE -- TO ME THE COST TO GET THE COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY, IT IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. THAT IS WHY I

BROUGHT IT UP. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL SEE THIS, MAYBE YOU WILL SEE THIS AS FRIENDLY, MAYBE YOU WANT, I THINK WE ONLY NEED TWO FOR ANYTHING WE ARE GOING OUT FOR BIDS AND CONTRACTS. WE DO NOT NEED TWO FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ELECTION NOTICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHERE THE NEED IS, I THINK THE NEED IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND RESPOND TO OUR --

>> I THINK THAT IS GOOD. >> I ONLY WANT THIS FOR EVERY

ITEM. >> AGENDA ITEM TO A FUTURE MEETING TO ADDRESS THAT. TO ADDRESS THE BIDDING PROCEDURES AND PUBLICATION.

>> UPDATED BIDDING PROCEDURES. I AM LOOKING AT THAT.

>> YOU ARE RESENDING YOUR AMENDMENT?

>> YEAH, I WILL RESEND MY AMENDMENT.

>> YOU GUYS TALKED ME OUT OF IT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE JUST HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AS PRESENTED.

>> ARE WE TAKING OUT 14.5, MAYOR?

>> HE IS JUST TAKING OUT THE STATESMAN PART.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER?

>> AYE. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? COUNCILMEMBER ? MEMBER WILCOTT?

[15. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 15.3 AND 15.5 , IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.

>> IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY HAVE PUT -- I WILL NOT SPEAK

UNLESS -- >> ANY OBJECTIONS?

>> WELL, I GUESS I OBJECT, THEN.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO PULL 15.3 AND 15.5.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> AND THE REASON FOR 15.3 IS , IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED IN EVERY MAJOR METROPOLITAN PAPER WE HAVE IN THE AREA. SO I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING WE ARE GOING TO GET, I DO NOT KNOW THAT THERE IS A REASON TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT IS DONE SO THAT IS WHY ON 15.3, 15.5 WE ALREADY AS A BODY APPROVED EVERY ITEM RELATING TO THIS MATTER TO BE RELEASED INTO

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I BROUGHT THAT UP. >> MY QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN WHY WERE THEY PUT ON EXECUTIVE? WHO PUT THESE TWO ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE AND WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THEM GOING ONTO EXECUTIVE?

>> WELL, I PUT THE TITLE ON EXECUTIVE BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE GOT THE INFORMATION IN AN EMAIL , BUT NOT THE LETTER. SO, I WAS GOING TO GET THE LETTER AND SEE IF COUNSEL HAD ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS. 15.5 IS THE PAYBACK FOR FORMER COUNCILMEMBER.

REMOVE THOSE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO,

CAN WE -- >>

>> HOLD ON, THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE THEM OUT OF EXECUTIVE SECTION, IT HAS BEEN SECONDED SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE AND IF THE VOTE IS TO PULL IT OUT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC THAT THE VOTE IS TO KEEP IT IN THE BACK, WE ARE GOING TO GO IN THE BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.

>>

>> OKAY. >> YEAH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION HAS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE.

>> OKAY. SO, HOLD ON. SO, COUNCILMAN CLARK, WAS YOUR CONCERN ONLY YOUR QUESTION IS ONLY ON 15.5? NOT 15.3? OKAY.

AND THEN CITY ATTORNEY , IF WE START INTO A DISCUSSION ON THE ONE COUNCILMAN CLARK HAS AN ISSUE WITH AND IT STARTS GETTING INTO SOME KIND OF A LITTLE THING WE CAN STOP THE

DISCUSSION? >> WE CAN RESERVE THE LEGAL FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? >> NO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? >>

>> MAYOR SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT? >> NO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES A 4-3. 15.3 RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CURE OF THE NOTICE OF DEFAULT WITH TITAN LEGOLAND INVESTORS LLC.

>> I HAVE THEM UPSTAIRS. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO GET THEM I

CAN. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, PASS OUT THE LETTER AND THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CURE WAS, WHAT THEY AGREED TO. BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THE EMAIL HAD THE LETTER ATTACHED TO IT. SO COUNSEL, IF THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

>> WE'VE GOT TO WAIT ANYWAY. >> I WOULDN'T HAVE PULLED IT OUT, BUT SINCE I READ ABOUT IT IN THE STATESMAN AND THE COMMUNITY IMPACT I THOUGHT, WHATEVER YOU TELL US, IT MUST BE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HOLD ON THAT AND WE WILL GO TO 15.5, THEN. FOR ANY KIND OF MATTER OF FACT TALKING BEFORE WE GO TO EXEC. 15.5, RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY RELATING TO THE RETURN OF COUNSEL PAY PURSUANT TO HUTTO CHARTER SECTION 3.04 BY FORMER COUNCILMEMBER VILLAREAL-SALVO. ALL RIGHT, I ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THIS A WHILE BACK AS I WAS GOING THROUGH MY END-OF-THE-YEAR LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR ON THINGS. WE ALREADY WERE TOLD WE WERE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK. IT LOOKS LIKE A PAYMENT WAS ALREADY MADE AND THEN STOPPED FOR WHATEVER REASON. MY POSITION IS THIS. IF YOU OWE THE CITY OF HUTTO $50 FOR A WATER BILL, WE HAVE EMPOWERED THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND HIS PEOPLE OVER AND SHUT YOUR WATER OFF UNTIL YOU PAY THAT MONEY. IF YOU DON'T PAY

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A BODY. >> YES, WE HAVE. WE HAVE, I

FOUND IT. >> YOU DID?

>> SO, OCTOBER 20TH, 2022. >> OCTOBER 20TH?

>> ITEM 10.1. THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PASSED, SO I'LL READ IT, IT SAID CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION ARE DASH 22 DASH 089 RELATED TO COMPENSATION UNDER SECTION 3.04 OF THE CITY CHARTER, AND ITS PERNICIOUS PERMISSIBILITY UNDER ARTICLE X VI, WHAT IS THAT, 16? SECTION 40 B OF THE CONSTITUTION IN AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL REASONABLE AND NECESSARY ACTION TO RECOVER ANY COMPENSATION PAID TO CITY OFFICIALS IN VIOLATION OF SUBSECTOR 40 B ARTICLE 16 OF

THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION. >> I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION

ABOUT THAT. >> BUT THAT PASSED ON A VOTE OF

5-1. OKAY. >> WE ARE JUST TALKING FAX.

>> REACHED A POINT IN THE DISCUSSION WHERE WE HAVE A

LEGAL QUESTION, NOW. >> BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC ITEM.

THIS IS AN ACTION TAKEN, IT'S RECORDED. HE'S GOT WHO VOTED FOR IT AND WHO VOTED AGAINST IT.

>> IT'S AN OFFICIAL RESOLUTION, SO IF THERE IS A LEGAL QUESTION ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S LEGAL, IT'S OF LEGAL RESOLUTION UNTIL IT'S OVERTURNED BY A COURT, BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL.

>> I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION PERTAINING TO HOW IT WAS OR WAS NOT WHAT IT IS. BUT THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T DONE. WE NEED TO GO

TO EXEC AND TALK. >> MY QUESTION WAS VERY SIMPLE.

WHAT HAS BEEN DONE? TO IMPLEMENT THAT RESOLUTION?

>> AS FAR AS THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE, WAS WARREN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT STEPS HE TOOK TO COLLECT IT OTHER THAN THAT EMAIL FROM STACY SMITH. AND I DIDN'T WRITE

A LETTER OR ANYTHING. >> OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY FACTUAL QUESTIONS. THAT I THINK IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S NONLEGAL? ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM 15.3. RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CURE OF THE NOTICE OF DEFAULT WITH TITAN MEGA LAND INVESTORS LLC.

>> FROM 12.3? >> WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT, THIS IS NOW PUBLIC INFORMATION, SINCE WE PASSED THAT IN A

PUBLIC MEETING? >> SO ARE WE TALKING?

>> JUST POINT OUT WHAT IT MEANS.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR HUTTO. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE LETTER OF AGREEMENT AND NOTICE TO PROCEED DULY EXECUTED BY BOTH TITAN MEGA LAND INVESTORS AS WELL AS THE EDC BOARD. JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU SINCE THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE SEEING IT, THE INITIAL PART, THERE, ARE JUST THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENTS, THE INITIAL NOTICE OF DEFAULT DELIVERED IN APRIL OF 2023, AND THEN THE CONTINUING DEFAULT NOTICE DELIVERED TO THE EDC AND EDC LEGAL IN NOVEMBER OF 2023. IN SECTION 1 , WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FIRE ACCESS ROAD. THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR TITAN IN

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BUT I HAD A FEELING Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THE GENERAL ADDITIONAL COSTS INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S IN THERE.

AND THEN THERE IS A NOTE FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY DO ASK THAT WE PROTECT THEIR EXISTING RAILWAY ACCESS. THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A CURRENT FARM LEASE THERE AND THAT'S THE ACCESS POINT FOR THE FARMER TO GET ON THE LAND AND DO ACCESS LAND FOR FARMING. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> I DID. I KNOW THAT TALKED ABOUT OF THAT QUESTIONS OR DISAGREEMENT WHATSOEVER, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S BEEN SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED, I'LL BE HONEST, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE SAY APPEAR. YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. TO ME, THIS IS INFORMATION DOWNLOADING AND WE CAN JUST TAKE IT AND RESPOND WITH COMMENTS. NOT TO DIMINISH WHAT YOU'VE DONE, I APPRECIATE IT. I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S NO REASON FOR US IN MY MIND TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.

>> OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE?

>> I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT ANY KIND OF ISSUES WE SAY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT'S NOT OUR LAND AND WE'RE NOT PARTY TO THE

AGREEMENT. >> SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? I'M GOOD WITH IT. CAN WE JUST MOVE ON? WHY DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS? IT'S DONE. IT'S A DONE DEAL. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE'VE GOT STUFF TO DO.

>> SHOULD ANY COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT VIA THE APPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION CHANNELS, WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, Y'ALL ARE RIGHT, THE DEAL IS DONE, WE'RE BACK IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE TITAN AGREEMENTS WHICH WAS A GREAT WAY TO END THE YEAR, SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT

TO GET US THERE. >> IS THIS AGREEMENT ADDRESS

THE DRAINAGE? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I WILL READ IT DONE IF WE MISS A DEADLINE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY. WHOEVER IT IS THAT AGREED TO WHATEVER DEADLINES I'M GOING TO READ LATER, THEY BETTER MAKE SURE

THEY'RE IN THE OUTLOOK. >> OCTOBER 1, 2024.

>> THAT'S COMING QUICK. >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, TO CITY STAFF, FOR GETTING THIS DONE. AND ALLOWING

EVERYONE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> THANK YOU, AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU, MATT. YOU HELPED DIG THIS OUT OF THE DITCH, SO THANK

YOU. >> THE EDC DID A GREAT JOB BRAINSTORMING, FIGURING OUT BEST APPROACHES, I THINK WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AS WELL AS CITY MANAGER, I THINK THE EDC WAS WELL INFORMED AND MADE THEIR DECISION, AND WAS VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF CITY MANAGER, SO THANK YOU, GREAT WORK BY THE EDC AS WELL FOR

GETTING THIS DONE. >> I'LL PASS THAT ON. THANK

YOU. >> SORRY TO MAKE IT SO QUICK.

>> KEEP ME UP THERE LONGER NEXT TIME.

>> OR MAKE IT QUICK AT 9:00. >> WE'LL GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1:11:00 A.M. 15.1 AND RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS CODE.071 RELATING TO FAILURE OF DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS IN THE COTTON BROOK DEVELOPMENT AND THE CROSS CREEK DEVELOPMENT. 15.2 RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY RELATING TO THE FOLLOWING PETITIONS FOR RELEASE OF THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, PETITION OF GLENN, STEPHEN, AND BRIAN WALL FOR THE RELEASE FROM THE CITY'S E TJ OF FIVE ACRES OF LAND OUT OF THE CARMEL CREEK ESTATES LOCATED AT 600 LEMMONS AVENUE HUTTO TEXAS, B, PETITION GLENN, STEPHEN, AND BRIAN WALL FOR THE RELEASE OF THE CITY'S E TJ OF APPROXIMATELY 7.0084 ACRES OF LAND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 2, BLOCK FOUR OUT OF OUR 020230 IN THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY DEED RECORDS LOCATED AT 1151 FM SIX SIX D, HUTTO, TEXAS. ITEM 15.4, RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY RELATING TO THE MEADOWBROOK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ITEM 15.5, RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071

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[16. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> ON EXECUTIVE ACTION ITEMS.

>> MR. MAYOR, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO LIVE BY THE DEVELOPER OF COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPER OF THE CROSS CREEK DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD SIDEWALKS AS REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND AS INDICATED ON THE APPROVED AND THAT THE CITY WILL WITHHOLD ANY AMOUNTS THAT THE CITY MAY OWE AS AN OFFSET UNTIL THE SIDEWALKS ARE COMPLETED, AND MORE DEMAND ON PERFORMANCE

BONDS. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING THEM, PLEASE CALL

ABOUT. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON?

>> AYE. THE >> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> MAYOR, I'VE GOT A MOTION RELATING TO ITEM 15.2, MOTION TO DENY THE PETITION OF GLENN, STEPHEN, AND BRIAN WALL FOR THE RELEASE OF THE CITY'S E TJ OF FIVE ACRES OF LAND OUT OF THE CARMEL CREEK ESTATES LOCATED AT 600 AVENUE HUTTO, TEXAS. TO BE DENIED BECAUSE SP 2038 IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL DELEGATION OF LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY AND IT CONFLICTS WITH THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 42.023. THE CITY DOES NOT CONSENT TO A REDUCTION OF ITS E TJ TO INCLUDE THE DENIAL OF THIS PETITION TO THE ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH MESSER FORT, PC, IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE LITIGATION.

>> SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE,

PLEASE CALL ABOUT. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND TO DENY FOR THEIR RELEASE FROM THE CITY'S E TJ OF APPROXIMATELY 7.0084 ACRES OF LAND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 2, BLOCK FOUR OUT OF R020230 IN THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY DEED RECORDS LOCATED AT 1151 FM 1660 HUTTO, TEXAS . TO DENY THAT PETITION, TO REMOVE THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY'S E TJ, BECAUSE SP 2038 IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL DELEGATION OF LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY AND IT CONFLICTS WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 4.0 2.23. CITY DOES NOT CONSENT TO A REDUCTION OF ITS E TJ, AND WE REQUEST THIS BE INCLUDED IN THE DENIAL OF THIS PETITION IN THE ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH MESSER FORT PC IN THE GRAND PRAIRIE LITIGATION.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY MAYOR SNYDER , SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR.

DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL

ABOUT. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER

>> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ANY OTHER

[17. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS (Part 2 of 2)]

AGENDA ITEMS? >> I HAVE ONE. AN ITEM ON THE CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATING THE $1.7 MILLION THAT WAS RELEASED FROM THE DURANGO COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

>> THAT'S GOOD. IS THAT OKAY IF WE DO THAT ON FAIRBURY 15TH?

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>> YES. >> SO WE'LL CALL THAT DURANGO RELEASE. UPDATE. IS THAT COOL? ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER ITEMS?

>> MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE AN ITEM TO DISCUSS THE MAYOR'S GOLF TOURNAMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS IN OUR BUDGET, SO UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT MONEY GOES, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEING USED AS A CITY BUSINESS, UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THE

NUANCES, THERE. >> WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE? TO TALK

ABOUT? >> EARLIEST CONVENIENCE. A

BREAK? >> IT SHOULD BE A QUICK ONE. NO STAFF, JANUARY 18TH? THERE WON'T BE ANY STAFF WORK ON

THAT. ANY OTHER ITEMS? >> SINCE WE MENTIONED THE BATHROOMS AND STUFF, CAN WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ] WHATEVER THE COST FOR US TO DO

>> ALL RIGHT, CAN WE DO THAT >> MARCH, MAY BE PEER

>> WE DON'T HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR IT, BUT

>> WE WILL DO A MIDYEAR BUDGET TO TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE, OR GET ON THE PLANNING PORTION

>> JEN BUILDING BATHROOMS. >> WHATEVER FACILITY UPGRADES NEED TO HAPPEN FOR THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER ITEMS? MARCH 7TH. OKAY. HERE'S WHAT I'VE GOT COMING UP, WE HAVE DNI TRAINING THURSDAY, THE 18TH WE HAVE OUR AMPHITHEATER DISCUSSION FOR GUIDELINES THAT STAFF IS BRINGING BACK BASED ON OUR INPUT. STAFF IS ALSO BRINGING BACK A FEE SCHEDULE. I HAD UPDATES, THERE, BUT SINCE THEN WE HAVE ACQUIRED IT.

>> THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR RENTING.

>> RENTING THE JEN BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING THIS, MY NOTES ARE TERRIBLE. I HAVE THE CLEAN AIR COALITION APPOINTMENT ON THE 18TH. I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ITEM I'M ASKING FOR IS A DISCUSSION ON COUNSEL AND CITY MANAGER EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS. I'LL GET WITH JAMES TO TALK ABOUT THAT. ON THE 18TH I'M GOING TO ASK FOR AN ITEM I HAVE TO GET WITH DOTTIE ON THIS FOR THE EXACT WORDING, BUT REGARDING THE RESIDENCY OF PLACE THREE AND THE MATTERS THAT REVOLVE AROUND COUNCILMEMBER PLACE THREE POSITION.

>> CURRENT PLACE THREE? >> CURRENT PLACE THREE. THEN WE HAVE THE HPD QUARTERLY. IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE THE HPD QUARTERLY UPDATE, THAT WILL BE ON THE 28TH, IT'S BEEN MOVED. THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS TO BE ON THE 18TH, GOING FOR MY STUFF WE ALSO HAVE THE YMCA EASEMENT. WE TABLED, BUT I DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF WHERE WE TABLED THAT TO. I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE ON THE 18TH BUT I GOT THAT THERE. WE ALSO IN TALKING TO MAYOR PRO TEM WE MOVED THE CITY COUNCIL TRAINING OPPORTUNITY FOR 2024 BUDGET. TO THE 18TH. AND THE HUTTO MAYOR UPDATE ON THE CHARITY GOLF TOURNAMENT.

>> IF THE 18TH IS TOO BIG, YOU CAN MOVE MY NOW.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL LIVE THAT OUT. IT'S FILLING UP QUICK. CITY COUNCIL TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. 2024 BUDGET.

>>

>> WRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR ITEMS WE WANT ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. FEBRUARY, WE HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE ON THE FIRST, I'LL BE ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION ON THEIR ESCAPE, WE HAVE THE MEADOWBROOK, THE CHILDCARE

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>> AT ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVED TO

INAUDIBLE ] JULY 11TH. >> JULY 4TH, JULY 11TH.

>> WE CAN DO THAT AS A MOTION RIGHT NOW, RIGHT, DOTTIE?

>> ARE WE UNDER FUTURE? >> ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS WE WANT? OKAY, THEN 17.3, FUTURE ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULED MEETINGS AS ALLOWED BY HUTTO CITY CODE SECTION 1.0 2.033 ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULED MEETINGS. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE THE JULY 4TH TO THE 11TH?

>> YES. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> JUST GIVE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC AND FEDERAL HOLIDAY MAKES SENSE THAT WE SHOULD

>> ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL ABOUT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER >> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ANY OTHER MEETING ISSUES? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE

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