[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
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>>> ALL RIGHT, 7:00. WE CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, MAY 16, 2024 TO ORDER. LET'S START WITH THE ROLLCALL. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR .
COUNCILMEMBER WILCOTT. NEXT WILL BE LED AN INVOCATION BY PASTOR ARTHUR L SPENCE FROM EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH. IF YOU
WILL PLEASE RISE. >> SHALL WE PRAY? DEAR GRACIOUS LORD WE COME NOW TO GIVE YOU HONOR AND GLORY AND PRAISE, LORD. AS WE GO INTO THE MEETING, WE ASK YOU HEAVENLY FATHER TO BLESS EVERYONE THAT IS HERE. HEAVENLY FATHER WILL BLESS THE MAYOR , AND EVERYONE IN THE CABINET, HEAVENLY FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HEAVENLY FATHER WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING. WE GIVE YOU HONOR, WE GIVE YOU -- HAVE ANGELS AROUND US HEAVENLY FATHER AS WE GET TO OUR DESTINATION AS WE MAKE THERE SAFELY. WE GIVE YOU ALL THE
HONOR IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN. >> STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[5. PROCLAMATIONS]
>> NEXT OF COUNSEL WILL JOIN ME UPFRONT FOR A PROCLAMATION.
>> THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WEEK, MAY 19 THROUGH THE 25 , 2024. WHEREAS THE GOVERNMENT OF HUTTO CELEBRATES PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO CONSISTENTLY PRIORITIZE THE WELL-BEING OF HUTTO THROUGH MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE , FACILITIES, AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY OF HUTTO , AND WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURES, FACILITIES, AND SERVICES CANNOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING, AND PROTECTING OUR CITY'S WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT, WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM, SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC HOLDINGS, AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR A RESIDENCE. AND WHEREAS, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST FOR THE RESIDENCE , CIVIC LEADERS, AND TO CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF HUTTO TO MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS RESPONDERS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE WELFARE OF RESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2024 MARKS THE 64TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION , CANADIAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION , BE IT NOW THEREFORE RESOLVED THAT WE THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HUTTO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 19 THROUGH THE 25, 2024 , AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WE CAN ENCOURAGE ALL HUTTO RESIDENTS TO APPLAUD THE STRENUOUS WORK THAT ARE PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS MY ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, AND EMPLOYEES DO TO ENSURE OUR NATIONAL SAFETY, HEALTH, AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? I WILL SAY IT IF YOU
DON'T. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU , MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR THE RECOGNITION OF HOW IMPORTANT PUBLIC WORKS IS , AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU ARE INVESTING IN DAY IN AND DAY OUT. TODAY, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS ON A ROUTINE BASIS, TODAY WE HAVE GROUPS FROM INSPECTIONS, STREETS, UTILITIES , AND SO FORTH, SO ON A RAINY DAY, YOU MIGHT HAVE THINGS LIKE WINDSHEAR , AND HAVE STREETLIGHTS GO DOWN, SAVE TO BARRICADE THAT FOR SAFETY
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FOR THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS FLOODING. YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO ENTER INTO A LOW CROSSING WATER , SO SOMETHING GOES UP AS A BARRICADE AS WELL. THE LIGHTNING STORM, YOU HAVE OUTAGES , ELECTRICAL OUTAGES. YOU SOUGHT TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE THE CITIZENS STILL NEED TO HAVE WATER. SO THOSE THINGS HAPPEN DAILY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE ARE , NOT ONLY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUT CRITICAL SERVICES THAT HAPPEN DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THAT CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, SO THANK YOU.>> I WILL ADD, MOST OF YOU ALL'S WORK IS NOTICED BY THE PUBLIC, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY ALL KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING IT.
WHETHER IT IS FLOODING OR A PIPELINE BREAKS OR YOU ARE OUT WORKING ON ROADS AND IT IS 110 DEGREES, MOST OF US ARE IN AIR-CONDITIONED CARS, ENJOYING LIFE, COMPLAINING ABOUT THE POTHOLE BUT GLAD IT IS BEING FILLED HIM ABOUT YOU ALL ARE OUT THERE IN THE ELEMENTS. YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE SOMETIMES WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, EARLY IN THE MORNING, ON THE WEEKENDS. IT IS EASY FOR US TO COMPLAIN ON FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT WHY THIS IS GOING ON, BUT THEN VERY FEW TIMES DO WE EVER THINK YOU ALL FOR WORKING SATURDAY AT MIDNIGHT ARE WORKING WHEN THERE IS A RAINSTORM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALSO , COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR BROUGHT SOMETHING UP , SHE IS NOT JOKING, IT IS A SERIOUS THING. I AM ALMOST SURE IT IS SERIOUS, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD IT IN ANOTHER CITY, AND THAT IS FLUSHABLE WIPES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE FLUSHED. DOES EVERYBODY UP HERE AGREE WITH THAT? SO, FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE, I AM GOING TO POST ABOUT IT, BUT WE NEED TO STOP FLUSHING STUFF LIKE THAT ON THE TOILET BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CREATING AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE NOW CHARGING MORE MONEY TO DO. IF YOU WANT YOUR RATES TO GO DOWN AND NOT KEEP GOING UP, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS BE BETTER STEWARDS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONLY PUT DOWN THERE WHAT IS MEANT TO. WE WILL TALK TO PROCTOR AND GAMBLE ABOUT TAKING FLUSHABLE OFF OF THEIR -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
>> NEXT HAVE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS.
>> LET ME, HOLD ON, MAY RECOGNIZE THAT COUNCILMEMBER
CLARK IS IN AT SEVEN: 08. >> OKAY. YOU ARE GOING TO STAND WITH ME? THIS MICROPHONE IS PERFECT FINE. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF HUTTO , CITY MANAGER , TONIGHT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO ANNOUNCE.
THE FIRST ONE IS APPEAR ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU TO SEE. WE HAVE NOW DEPLOYED A NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT DASHBOARD FOR THE PUBLIC. THIS IS THROUGH OUR CLEAR GOLF SOFTWARE PLATFORM, WHICH IS ALSO THE SOFTWARE WE USE FOR OUR BUDGETING. WHAT THIS ALLOWS IS FOR THE PUBLIC NOW AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO INTERACT WITH AN INTERACTIVE MAP , TO CLICK ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT AND BRING UP MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
IT WILL SHOW A GENERAL LOCATION OF WHERE IT IS AT. IT WILL SHOW THE BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT AND WHERE IT IS IN THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT STEPS OF PLANNING FOR CIP. VERY, VERY DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT. THERE IS A TIMELINE. IT SHOWS YOU WHERE IT IS HAD IN THE TIMELINE, AND IT WILL ALSO SHOW YOU IF TIMELINES ARE SLIPPING, AND THEN THERE ARE COMMUNICATION POINTS IF YOU NEED TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION. IF YOU WANT TO EXPLORE ON YOUR OWN, YOU JUST GO INTO THE MAP AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE , AND THEY ARE MIGRATED AND TIED INTO THE CLEAR GOLF SOFTWARE , SO AS THE BUDGET ITEMS ARE UPDATED AND/OR CHANGED, THEN IT IS REFLECTED AND LIVE ON THIS INTERACTIVE WEBSITE. SO , WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG THING, BUT FROM WHERE WE SAT FROM A YEAR AGO , WE DID NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT CIP PROJECTS WE WERE DOING AND NOW WE HAVE IT WRAPPED IN ALL THE INFORMATION GATHERED UP IN ONE PLACE THAT IS EASY TO SEE AND EASY TO ACCESS AS WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR TRANSPARENCY.
ANYTHING THAT I TALK ABOUT TONIGHT YOU CAN FIND BY ACCESSING THIS QR CODE. WE TOOK OUT OF MY COMMENTS HAVING TO REPEAT THE WEBSITE ALL OVER ANY , MANY TIMES. YOU JUST PULL OUT
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YOUR SMART DEVICE, SCAN THE QR CODE. IT WILL TAKE YOU TO A PAGE ON YOUR PHONE THAT HAS LINKS TO EVERYTHING THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. FRITSCH PARK CONSTRUCTION BEGAN THIS LAST WEEKEND, SO THE RENOVATION PLAN WILL MAKE FRITSCH PARK HUTTO'S PREMIER PARK WITH AMENITIES FOR ALL. CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED TO MOVE SWIFTLY. ASK PHASE TWO IS SET TO BEGIN IN JUNE. PHASE ONE IS PREDOMINANTLY GRADING AND EARTHMOVING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO GET READY FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START. AND THEN THAT IS GOING TO RESULT IN MUCH OF THE PARK BEING CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC. SO THIS SUMMER THE PARK IS GOING TO BE CLOSED WHILE IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT JUST MEANS YOU NEED TO GO FIND OTHER FUN PARKS IN HUTTO TO GO TO AT THAT TIME IF YOU ARE USED TO GOING TO FRITZ. YOU CAN GO TO HUTTO LAKE OR ANY OF THE OTHER PUBLIC PARKS THAT WE HAVE. STREET MAINTENANCE . SO ROAD RESURFACING IS SLATED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF MAY , BUT THAT IS ALL THAT IS PLANNED FOR THE YEAR. JUNE PUBLIC WORKS WILL BEGIN MAIL AND OVERLAY OF SEVERAL ROADS DESIGNED TO PROLONG THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROADS. THEY CONSIST OF REMOVING THE TOP LAYER OF EXISTING ASPHALT PAVEMENT AND REPLACING IT WITH A NEW LAYER OF HOT MIX ASPHALT. THIS, THE LIST OF THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING IMPROVED WITH MAINTENANCE ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. A REMINDER TO ALL HUTTO NONPROFITS THAT ARE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN , AND THOSE ARE DUE JUNE 21. ON MAY 22, A STAFF LEAD FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS SESSION WILL BE HELD VIRTUALLY FOR ANY NONPROFIT WHO IS CONSIDERING APPLYING THIS YEAR. THIS IS AN ANNUAL APPLICATION , AND THE APPLICATIONS ARE VETTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL , AND THEN ARE AWARDED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS , WHICH COMES TO CONCLUDE IN THE END OF SEPTEMBER. UPCOMING EVENTS, WE HAVE THE SUNSET SUMMER BLOCK PARTY BASH. THIS FRIDAY, THE 24, AT 6:00 P.M. MAKE SURE YOU JOIN THE NEIGHBORS AT THE HUTTO CO-OP FOR A FUN RELAXED TIME AT THE SPLASH PAD, CONNECTIVITY FOR FOOD TRUCKS, AND LIVE MUSIC AS WE CELEBRATE THE KICKOFF OF MORALITY WE CAN AS A COMMUNITY.IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO FILL UP OUR SUMMER CALENDAR WITH THINGS TO DO, OUR PROGRAMMING CAN HELP YOU OUT. COMING UP IS CATFISH DERBY WITH OVER 2000 FISH STOCKS ON SATURDAY JUNE 1 AND THAT STARTS AT 9:00 A.M.. FISHING ISN'T YOUR THING, YOU CAN BRING YOUR BLANKET OUT FOR MOVIE IN THE PARK TO WATCH "BARBIE" AT 7:00 P.M. JUST BRING OFF WITH YOU. GIRLS NIGHT OUT WILL BE A HUTTO ELEMENTARY ON FRIDAY , JUNE 14. IT IS FIVE DOLLARS TO ATTEND THE GLOW PARTY WITH A DJ , REFRESHMENTS, AND PLENTY OF PHOTO OPS. PARENTAL FIGURES ARE WELCOME.
AN AMERICAN RAP CITY IS GOING TO BE THE TITLE FOR HUTTO'S JULY 4TH CELEBRATION THIS YEAR. IT IS A FREE FAMILY-FRIENDLY CELEBRATION OF OUR NATION AND WILL FEATURE LIVE MUSIC, LOCAL VENDORS, TRUCKS, KIDS ACTIVITIES , THE FIREWORKS, AND MORE . AND THAT CONCLUDES MY CITY MANAGER COMMENTS FOR THIS
[7. PUBLIC COMMENT]
MEETING, MAYOR. THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE LIGHT WILL START AT GREEN . WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT IT WILL GO TO YELLOW AND WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP IT WILL GO TO RED. WHILE WE ARE GETTING THAT SET UP, WE DID RECEIVE ONLINE COMMENTS FROM SEAN HUBBARD AND GEORGE GREENE , SO THE COUNSEL HAS RECEIVED THOSE. FIRST UP WE HAVE RUDY
PEREZ. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY MANAGER , CITY ATTORNEY, MAYOR, COUNCIL DAN AND COUNSEL EVAN. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE GONE, THREE TO GO. DANA, ADIOS, HOPE ALL GOES WELL TO YOU. LET'S MAKE HUTTO GREAT AGAIN . GOD BLESS TEXAS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OUT ITEM 10.2 AND 11.1 TO NEXT ON THE
>> 10.2 AND 11.1. >> CAN WE DO 10.1 , 10.2 , AND 11.1? JUST KIND OF DO IT ALTOGETHER?
>> OH, OKAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ADVISING US TO DO , JUST
NOT ACT ON 10.1? >> IT IS UP TO COUNSEL. HE
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WOULD ONLY ACT ON 10.1 IF YOU , YOU KNOW, IF YOU ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION, BUT IF YOU SEAT THE COUNCILMEMBER, THE TERM IS OVER. AS SOON AS THAT PERSON TAKES OFFICE, THE OTHER PERSON IS OUT OF OFFICE, SO THAT IS WHY 10.1 WOULD BECOME MOOT .[10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-110 accepting the resignation of Council Member Dana Wilcott (Legal)]
>> SO WE WILL START WITH 10.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2024-110 , ACCEPTING THE RESIGNATION OF COUNCILMEMBER DANA WILCOTT . I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ACT ON
THIS. >> IF THAT'S WHAT DOTTIE
ADVISES. >> IF IT COMES FIRST I THINK WE ACT ON IT. WHEN I HEARD HER SAY IS IF WE DO 10.2 AND 11.1 , THEN THIS ONE BECOMES MOOT. IF YOU ARE CALLING IT NOW THAN WE
WOULD ACT ON IT. >> LET'S NOT DO 10.1. LET'S
JUST DO 10.2. >> BUT I ALREADY CALLED IT. BUT IF WE DON'T ACT ON IT, LET'S JUST DO SOMETHING . I NEED A
[10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-096 declaring the election of Councilmember Place S (Legal)]
MOTION OR WE NEED TO MOVE ON. >>
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO TEND TO, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2024-096 DECLARING THE ELECTION OF
COUNCILMEMBER PLACE 5. >> MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION R-2024-096 DECLARING THE ELECTION OF
COUNCILMEMBER PLACE 5. >> SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM.
HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON . >> AYE .
>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. >> AYE.
[11.1. Action to swear in the newly elected official to Place 5]
>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.
>> THE MOTION PASSES 6-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11.1, ACTION TO SWEAR IN THE NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL TO PLACE 5.
>> COME ON UP. IT IS YOUR TURN.
>> THE JUDGE IS GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN.
>> HE'S THE CITY MANAGER AND HE DOES MAINTENANCE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LUCAS WILSON. I HAVE THE HONOR OF SWEARING IN MR. PORTERFIELD. MR. PORTERFIELD, IF YOU WILL REPEAT AFTER ME, PLEASE. I, EVAN PORTERFIELD.
>> I EVAN PORTERFIELD DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF CITY OF HUTTO COUNSEL PLACE 5 OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY PRESERVE , PROTECT , AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE SO HELP ME GOD.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANYBODY CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING.
>>> ALL RIGHT. IT IS 7:26 , BACK FROM RECESS. AND HOW DO WE
[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, City Council Liaisons, and Area Government appointments.]
GET COUNCILMEMBER CLARK BACK ON TV? THAT BRINGS US UP TO ITEM[00:20:07]
8.1, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS, AND/OR MOVABLES TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.>> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NEW APPLICATIONS. WE DID NOT MEET THE PAST TWO WEEKS. THE CITY STAFF IS STILL WORKING THROUGH THE LIST OF THOSE WHOSE TERMS EXPIRE IN JUNE, AND WE SHOULD GET A REPORT. WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THE REPORT WILL COME BACK? IN ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO. THEN WE WILL KNOW WHO IS INTERESTED IN REAPPLYING AND STAYING ON VERSUS WHO IS NOT,
[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-031 amending Chapter 1, Article 1.07 (Parades) of the Code of Ordinances (First Reading) (Councilmember Dan Thornton)]
SO WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE LIST OF THE VACANCIES SO WE CAN GETIT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. >> ALL RIGHT. ITEM 9.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2024-031 AMENDING CHAPTER 1 ARTICLE 1.07 , PARADES, OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. I BELIEVE THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING, AND THESE HAVE THE REQUESTED CHANGES BY STAFF.
>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF ARE PUTTING IN THE
WORK AND MAKING SOME UPDATES. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO STAFF ARE COLLABORATING WITH ALL ENTITIES AND GETTING THIS BROUGHT BACK WITH THESE NECESSARY CHANGES. THANK YOU ESPECIALLY TO CHIEF JONES AND CHIEF YARBOROUGH FOR PROVIDING YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL.
>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> BEFORE YOU CALL THE VOTE I WANTED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. SO ORDINANCES NOW DO NOT NEED TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER. YOU CAN PROVIDE FOR PUBLICATION. TYPICALLY IS THERE -- IF THERE IS A FINE OR PENALTY, YOU COULD PUBLISH THE CAPTION, OR THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THAT ANY ORDINANCE AT THE CITY PASSES TO JUST POST ON THE WEBSITE . SO IN YOUR MOTION IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO POST THIS ORDINANCE ON THE WEBSITE, THE CHARTER COMMITTEE THOUGHT THAT POSTING ON THE WEBSITE WOULD GET MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT THE COUNCIL ACTION WAS , RATHER THAN POSTING A CAPTION IN THE
NEWSPAPER. >> I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT RIGHT NOW? I THINK YOU SAID YEAH.
OKAY. WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU, BUT WE SAW.
>> SO PROCEDURAL, DO WE NEED TO DO THAT ON EVERY ORDINANCE NOW?
>> I CAN BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR YOUR HUTTO CODE ORDINANCES SAYING THAT ORDINANCES SHALL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, OR IF YOU WANT ME TO ADD THAT , OR PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER IF -- IF , IF, IF DIRECTED BY COUNSEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GIVE YOU THE OPTION. THIS WAY YOU CAN CHANGE IT EASIER THAN CHANGING THE CHARTER.
>> A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, AN ORDINANCE DISCUSSING HOW WE
PUBLISH ORDINANCES. >> CORRECT.
>> THAT'S GOVERNMENT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEAR VOTE.
>> IS FROZEN. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON?
>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON .
>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR .
>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK , ARE
YOU THERE? >> THE MOTION PASSES 5-0 --
>> SIX . >> 6-0 , YES, BUT 7:30, BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK IS NOT AT THE MEETING PICKETS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE NOT DOING WELL. WHEN HE COMES BACK IS GOING TO
BE A NIGHTMARE. >> I'M HERE. I'M HERE. I'M
HERE. I'M HERE. >> WAIT A MINUTE. YOUR PICTURE HAS TO BE -- I'M PRETTY SURE BY STATE LAW WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU , AND WE CAN'T JUST HAVE A PICTURE OF YOU. WE HAVE TO SEE YOU, AND IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO BE SEEN -- YOU ARE NOT ON VIDEO, SIR. IT IS A FROZEN PICTURE.
>> OKAY. LET ME RECONNECT, BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT I AM ON
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VIDEO. >> FOR THE RECORD, I REALLY, REALLY , REALLY DISLIKE WHATEVER THIS IS CALLED .
>> SO ARE WE GOING TO DO 6-0 ON THIS ONE?
>> WHEN WE -- WHEN YOU COME BACK ON, WE WILL COLLECT YOU
[11.2. Consideration and possible action relating to TPDES Wastewater Permit Applications in the City of Hutto Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (Legal)]
BACK IN ON THE MEETING. 6-0 FOR ITEM 9.1. ITEM 11.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO TPDES WASTEWATER PERMIT APPLICATIONS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. THIS IS OUR STANDING AGENDA>> THE CITY MANAGER AND I MET WITH THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK ON MONDAY, HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING. THEY ARE WORKING. IT IS VERY COLLABORATIVE. WE ARE WORKING ON WAYS TO RESOLVE SOME OF OUR ISSUES ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF HUTTO . I DON'T KNOW JAMES , IS THERE ANY OTHER , THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP,
RIGHT? >> UNLESS HE WANTED ME TO GIVE
MORE DETAIL THAN THAT? >> I'M JUST TRYING TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WE ARE ACTIVELY MEETING NOT JUST WITH DEVELOPERS, BUT ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP WITH THE SITUATION SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE ARE JUST BLOWING OFF. AND 7:33 , COUNCILMEMBER CLARK BACK IN THE MEETING.
>> AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE PRAIRIE CROSSING T CQ APPLICATION .
>> PRAIRIE CROSSING, WHERE IS THAT WHEN AT?
>> IT IS -- WHERE IS THE PRAIRIE CROSSING? IS THAT A NEW
ONE? >> I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME.
>> NOT LOOK LIKE THAT WHEN HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE UPDATED MAP YET, UNLESS IT IS ONE OF THESE THAT I DON'T RECOGNIZE.
>> THERE IS IN A ONE CALLED PRAIRIE CROSSING?
>> ANYWAY, RAGA TEAM AND IS THE DEVELOPER AND HE IS MEETING WITH OUR JOE FREELAND, OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT IS HELPING THE CITY . THEY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THE
MONTH ON THAT ONE. >> SO IT IS DOWN ON THE
SOUTHERN SIDE -- >> SOUTHEAST. WHAT IS IT CALLED
AGAIN? PRAIRIE -- >> CROSSING.
>> WE ARE CALLING AT THE PRAIRIE CROSSING'S GROUP. THAT
MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT -- >> SO FOR THE RECORD, MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER. PRAIRIE CROSSING IS ACTUALLY A MUD THAT IS FARTHER TO THE EAST , SO COUNTY ROAD, SORRY, FM 3349, WE KNOW ABOUT CLO WHICH IS ON YOUR MAP. FURTHER TO THE EAST, CLOSER TO THE SAMSUNG PLANT, THERE IS ANOTHER MUTT OUT THERE CALLED PRAIRIE CROSSING , AND WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT HOW ALL OF THAT SERVICE IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN
THE SOUTH, SOUTHERN PORTION. >> IT IS EARLY TO WHERE THEY HAVEN'T STARTING APPLYING . THEY WANT MORE INFORMATION FOR
WHAT WE HAVE FOR SERVICES. >> I BELIEVE THEY HAD APPLIED, BUT THEY HAD APPLIED BASED ON THEM SERVING CIELO , WHICH WE ARE TALKING TO THEM RIGHT NOW, SO WE ARE GOING TO MEET AS A GROUP TO TALK THROUGH WHO IS DOING WHAT AND WHERE IT'S
GOING TO GO. >> IT APPEARS TO BE BASED OFF OF THE DOCUMENT THAT IS HERE IN MY POSSESSION THAT THERE WAS AN ORDER GRANTING THE PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF PRAIRIE CREEK CROSSING UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 22, 2021 , SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR MOTTO ESTABLISHED , BUT NOW THEY ARE TALKING TO US ABOUT IF THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THEM. WITH THAT THE ALTO --
APPROPRIATE? >> THE CLO GROUP WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THEM, EAST OF US , JUST TO THE EAST OF 3349 , WAS TALKING TO THAT MUD, MUD NUMBER TWO ABOUT THEM PUTTING A PACKAGE PLANT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE PLANT TO SERVE NOT ONLY THE PRAIRIE CROSSING, BUT THE CIELO GROUP AS WELL . BASICALLY THEY WERE TRYING TO FORM THEIR OWN LITTLE
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WASTEWATER CONGLOMERATE SOUTH OF TAYLOR .>> OKAY. >> IT IS FM 973 , DOES THAT
SOUND FAMILIAR? >> THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH.
>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
[11.3. Consideration and possible action on the recommendation for the update to the Wastewater Utility CIP projects to accelerate the Avery Lake Interceptor (WW13 and WW23) (Matt Rector)]
COUNSEL ON 11.2? ALL RIGHT. 11.3 , CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE UPDATE TO THE WASTEWATER UTILITY CIP PROJECTS TO ACCELERATE THE AVERY LAKE INTERCEPTOR , WW13 AND WW23. THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT ON THE AGENDA BASED ON A MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH LANDOWNERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 130 , AND I WILL LET YOU TELL US WHY THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US.>> AGAIN , MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER. THIS ITEM, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED , PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ARE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2022 WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE WASTEWATER MAP REALLY QUICK? OR THE PACKAGE PLANT? SO IT IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE UP THERE, BUT IF YOU SEE NUMBER SIX, THAT IS THE PEARL ESTATES DEVELOPMENT , AND SO, THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A PACKAGE PLANT , AND WE WERE LIMITARY TALKING TO THEM LAST YEAR ABOUT POSSIBLY GETTING SERVICE FROM THE CITY, SO WE WORKED WITH THEIR TEAM AS WELL AS ANOTHER TEAM TO COME UP WITH KIND OF A PLAN , AND WE EVEN INCLUDED A BUNCH OF THE OTHER LANDOWNERS THAT WERE IN BETWEEN TO SEE HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT I'LL HAPPEN.
UNFORTUNATELY , WHEN THE PRICE TAG CAME IN, THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT ABLE TO PUT THAT BILL , AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE IT IN OUR CIP , WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FOOT THE BILL EITHER. SO THE DEVELOPER WENT TO FIND ALTERNATIVE METHODOLOGIES. LAST WEEK ON MONDAY , THERE WE GO, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT POTENTIALLY EXPEDITING THESE TWO PROJECTS , TO ADD THESE TO OUR CURRENT CIP , ADD THESE TO THE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED BOND AMOUNTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY AUTHORIZED US TO GO ISSUE , TO CONSTRUCT THESE WASTEWATER LINES THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY SERVE NOT ONLY THE PEARL ESTATES , BUT IT WOULD ALSO SERVE THE LAND BETWEEN PEARL ESTATES AND 79. IT WOULD SERVE THE ISD PROPERTY THAT IS OUT THE PEARL ESTATES , THE AVERY PROPERTIES THAT ARE SOUTH OF THE ISD PROPERTIES, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 79. WHEN YOU CROSS UNDER 79 AND THAT IS WHEN YOU GET TO WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE TEX-MEX SITE OR THE AUTO INDUSTRIAL SITE, SO IT WOULD SERVE THEM, AND THEN IT WOULD CROSS UNDER 130 AND CONNECT INTO OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. SO IT IS KIND OF A LENGTHY RUN. THERE ARE A LOT OF CROSSINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CROSS 179 AND 130. IT IS NOT CHEAP. IT IS NOT EASY. YOU ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SCS RESERVOIR THERE, AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED BY THE TEAM, WATER CONTROL INDICATING THAT THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US ON THIS, BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY HAVE BLANKET EASEMENTS ALL THROUGH THAT RESERVOIR AREA , AND WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN THE LOOP EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT THEY CONTACTED ME TODAY AND SAID. ALL THAT SAID, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN , THESE PROJECTS PENCIL OUT TO BE AROUND $18 MILLION IN THE COSTS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN 2022. WE HAVE LOOKED AT CAN WE FIT THAT INTO THE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED AMOUNT , AND OF COURSE THE ANSWER IS YES. WE JUST HAVE TO SHIFT OTHER THINGS AROUND. WE SENT OUT A MEMO EARLIER TO COUNSEL EARLIER THIS WEEK BASICALLY OUTLINING OUR RECOMMENDATION, SO WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO IS WE CAN DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PHASE ONE, GO AHEAD AND GET THAT ASSIGNED, BUT DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT FREES UP SOME OF THE MONEY WE WOULD NEED, BUT NOT ENOUGH. SO THEN WE WENT TO THE DEVELOPER AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION , AND PAY THEIR PRO RATA SHARE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN THE CITY JUST PAY THE REST OF THEIR PRO RATA SHARE IN THE NUMBERS ROUGHLY WRECKED OUT TO AROUND , I THINK THEIR PRO RATA SHARE IS ROUGHLY
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19% AND OURS WOULD BE AROUND 81% OF THE COST, SO THEN THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY, AND IT DEFINITELY REDUCES THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO PAY. THE DEVELOPER INDICATED THAT THAT WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTION . UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO GET US WHERE WE WANT TO BE . SO, THE NEXT THING WE LOOKED AT, WE WENT BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL LIST THAT YOU GUYS>> PRO RATA SHARE AGAIN. I THINK THE DECISION FOR US NEEDS TO BE INITIALLY TO ADD THIS TO THE CIP. IF THE ANSWER IS NO, PEARL ESTATES, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PACKAGE PLANT AND THERE IS NOTHING WE ARE GOING TO DO TO STOP IT. IF WE DO GIVE IT TO CIP THAT GIVES US TIME TO FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS TO FUND THIS. TO ME THE IMPORTANT VOTE TONIGHT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TELL THE DEVELOPERS, THE VERTICAL LINE OR THE PACKAGE
PLANT, IS THAT SAFE TO SAY. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WILL ADD IN MR. MAYOR IS THAT PEARL ESTATES IS ALSO MEETING WITH THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK, SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A CONVERSATION, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD BE LOOKING TO ROUND ROCK FOR THIS
SERVICE, SIMILAR TO -- >> JUST ADD IT TO THE LIST.
QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS FROM COUNSEL?
>> SO WITH THAT I THE , IS THERE -- I KNOW DAY JUST RECENTLY ACQUIRED THAT LAND. DO THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF ETA ON WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THAT SCHOOL? JUST LIKE
TIMEFRAME? >> I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME. I WAS THERE THIRD HIGH SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR, FOR THE RECORD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID NOT CONVEY TO US THEIR INTENTION OF WHEN THEY WOULD BE TARGETING A BOND ELECTION, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE A BOND ELECTION TO BUILD THE FACILITIES OF THE VOTERS, AND WHAT THEY EXPLAINED WAS IS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IMMUNE FROM PAYING IMPACT FEES, BUT THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY IMMUNE FROM PAYING THEIR PRO RATA SHARE OF THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD , THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THEIR PRO RATA SHARE OF THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO INCLUDE WHEN THEY GO TO BOND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE US. AS FAR AS TIME GOES, WE DO NOT KNOW A TIMELINE ON ANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD BE CARRYING, AT THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, WOULD BE PAYING THE CARRYING COSTS FOR, BUT THE BENEFIT IS THAT THIS WOULD ALLOW SEWER SERVICE TO THAT AREA, AND THEN REMOVE THE POTENTIAL OF A PACKAGE PLANT. THE ONE COMPONENT ABOUT THE ROUND ROCK POSSIBILITY IS THAT WHEN WE MET WITH THE CITY, IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE TO SERVE THIS SITE AS IT WAS TO SERVE 705 FOR ROUND ROCK. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, IT IS NOT LIKE THE LINE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING IS FINE. THERE IS QUITE A BIT MORE TO IT FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE CONSIDERED FROM THE ROUND ROCK SIDE. EVEN IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN , IF WE INTEND TO SERVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 130, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
>> YEAH, I GUESS FOR ME, OF COURSE, I AM FOR INVESTING, YOU KNOW, IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, THAT PART,
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THAT AREA OF HUTTO IS GOING TO DEVELOP , YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IN WHATEVER TIMEFRAME. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. I GUESS, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE PEARL ESTATES, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH THE PACKAGE PLANT. IF THIS HELPS SOLVE IT, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH, YOU KNOW, DE-ANNEXING FROM THE E TJ AS WELL. BUT I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, LIKE , I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE ITEMS BE PUT INTO THE CIP LIST, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN A MASTER PLAN, WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN . WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HANDLE THIS EVENTUALLY . NOT QUITE SURE THE TIMEFRAME. WE CAN, I DO SEE SOME, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUNDING MECHANISMS , BECAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW I GUESS WHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO AUTHORIZE MOTHER 350, BECAUSE WE KIND OF, FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER WE'VE DONE, SO IT IS GOING TO BE IN TWO DIFFERENT PACKAGES, LIKE 278 MILLION, AND THEN IN 26 IS GOING TO BE $72 MILLION, SO IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE FUTURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MUDDY THE WATERS WITH THE FUNDING WHENEVER WE DO GET TO THAT POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE VERY CLEAR ON THE FUNDING MECHANISM, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO APPROACH THIS.>> I LIKE THE PLAN. I THINK IT IS A SMART WAY TO SEE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY TELLING OUR CITIZENS AND THOSE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR A PACKAGE LANCE. IF WE HAVE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO AVOID ONE OF THOSE AND PUT IT INTO OUR PLANS AND SHOVEL SOME THINGS AROUND, AND CARRY THE COST FOR A LITTLE BIT , I THINK THAT IS WORTH THE COST. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR WITH THE CITIZENS WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT, AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE KIND OF THE BEING CREATIVE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO THIS AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS AT LEAST ONE OF THE PACKAGE PLANS, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY SAYING WE DON'T WANT THEM, BUT THAT IF WE GO AND WE SAY WELL, WE ARE GOING TO BUILD IT ANYWAYS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO WORK WITH YOU, I THINK THIS IS, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
>> SO I THINK, IF I COULD, WE NEED TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS AND MAKE A MOTION AND THEN DISCUSS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS FROM COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM
12.1. >> WELL I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. A MOTION TO -- LET'S SEE WHAT THE ACTION ITEM IS.
CALLED ON ONE SECOND. >> I THINK IT'S JUST TO ADD
WW13 AND WW23 -- >> TO UPDATE THE CIP PROJECT TO ADD THE AVERY LAKE INTERCEPTOR , YEAH? OKAY, SO MOTION TO APPROVE 11.3 TO UPDATE THE WASTEWATER UTILITY CIP PROJECTS TO ACCELERATE THE AVERY LAKE INTERCEPTOR , WASTEWATER 13 AND
WASTEWATER 23 PROJECTS. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON.
>> AVOIDING A PACKAGE PLANT IS A BIG DEAL. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. NO PROBLEM THERE. ADDING IT TO THE CIP IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. FIGURING OUT WHERE IT FITS AND HOW TO PAY FOR IT. THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS, ESPECIALLY ON THE WATER SIDE, WE ARE ASKING, WELL, THIS IS A WASTEWATER PROJECT, BUT WE ARE ASKING OUR CURRENT RESIDENCE TO FUND A LOT OF FUTURE PROJECTS, AND ARE WATER CUSTOMERS , THEY ARE GETTING SOME BENEFITS WITH WATER PRESSURE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN I BELIEVE WITH THIS, RIGHT? WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS? IS THAT TRUE ARNO? NOT WITH THIS PROJECT. THE OTHER WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS WILL IMPROVE WATER PRESSURE. THAT IS ONE COMPLAINT, BUT THAT NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT FROM HER WATER CUSTOMERS I BELIEVE HAS TO BE THAT THE SCHOOL COLORS ARE COMING OUT OF THEIR FAUCETS. WE DON'T WANT RUST COLORED WATER, AND THAT IS A BIG DEAL TO FIX THAT . THAT IS A QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT IN ALL THIS MONEY THAT CURRENT RESIDENCE WERE GETTING THAT I THINK WAS GOING TO HELP THE CURRENT RESIDENCE , VERSUS PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, AN EXPANDED SYSTEM TO FUND GROWTH. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHATEVER WE CAN TO TO MAKE THAT PROJECT STILL HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS IT CAN.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. FOR ME THIS IS ADDING IT TO THE LIST .
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I AM STILL EXPECTING STAFF TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT NEXT YEAR AND TELL US THEY NEED MORE FUNDING ANYWAY, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THE RATE INCREASE NEEDS TO BE HIGHER, SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, SO I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER DISCUSSION LATER IN THE YEAR ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIND SOME OF THESE. I AGREE WITH YOU, THE PUBLIC , I SEE THE PICTURES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHAT MOTHER LOOKS LIKE -- AND WE SAY IT'S OKAY TO DRINK, BUT , PEOPLE JUST BUY BOTTLED WATER BEFORE THEY TESTED. SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO KEEP A FOCUS ON THAT, BUT STILL ADD THIS TO THE CIP. ALL RIGHT. NOTHING ELSE,[12. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL ? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 12.1 AND 12.5. SORRY, JUST 12.1. IF THERE IS NONE OTHER ITEMS TO PULL , THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A
MOTION -- >> I WAS CALLING MATT BACK UP
TO THE -- >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, 12.23
12.10. THE MEXICAN. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, TOP -- 12.2, 12.3, 12.4, 12.5, 12.6, 12.7, 12.8, 12.9, 12.10. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT,
[12.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-109 authorizing the City Manager to execute a change order with Joe Bland Construction for $341,328.45 for improvements to FM 1660 (Matt Rector)]
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2024-109 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CHANGE ORDER WITH JOE PLAN CONSTRUCTION FOR $300,041 328 45 . I'M GETTING CONFUSED ON ALL OF THE THINGS AT THIS INTERSECTION. IF YOU CAN KIND OF GO BACK TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, BECAUSE EVERY TIME I SEE A CHANGE ORDER THE FIRST THING I THINK IS PEOPLE ARE LOW BIDDING US , WE ACCEPT THEM, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND PUT IN THE REAL COST . I KNOW THIS IS NOT QUITE THAT. THIS IS A COMPLICATED DEAL , BUT IN LOOKING FOR A REFRESH.
>> SURE .12 .1 IS RELATED TO 12.5 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO, BACK IN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE TIMELINE, LAST YEAR SOMETIME , WE REVISED THE AGREEMENT WITH DURANGO FARMS. PART OF THAT REVISED AGREEMENT WAS THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT FUNDS INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR THIS CHANGE ORDER SO WE COULD ADD IMPROVEMENTS FURTHER TO THE SOUTH ALONG 1660 TWO PROVIDE A TURN LANE AND DRIVEWAY INTO THEIR PROPERTY THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1660. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT , THEY HAVE HIRED AN ENGINEER. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE DESIGN. THEY'VE SENT IT TO OUR CONTRACTOR, JOE BLAND, AND JOE BLAND PROVIDED THEN THE MISSED NUMBER TO DO THE CHANGE ORDER. THEY ARE PUTTING THE MONEY INTO ESCROW , AND THEN JOE BLAND WILL DO THE EXTRA WORK, AND IN THE CITY IS USING THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS CHANGE ORDER.
>> THIS IS A NORTHBOUND RIGHT INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS. I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THESE PARTNERS AND THINGS, WE HAVE SWITCHED AND CHANGED SO MUCH THAT I WANTED
TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD . >> AND THIS IS THEIR MONEY.
THEY ARE PAYING IT AND NOT US.
>> THAT IS WHAT 12.5 ON THE AGENDA WAS, THE ESCROW AGREEMENT. THEY HAVE TO DEPOSIT THAT MONEY INTO ESCROW SO WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED TO PAY JOE BLAND.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R-2024-109 AS
>> MOTION BY 16 AND SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE , PLEASE CALL THE
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>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO
EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> I ONLY POSTED ONE ITEM FOR EXECUTIVE, BUT I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REQUEST FOR UPDATES
OR INFORMATION TO PROVIDE. >> I DO HAVE ONE ITEM. YOU CAN TELL ME IF WE MIGHT DISCUSS IT HERE IN THE BACK, BUT IT DEALS WITH THE COTTONWOOD BID AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO DISBURSE MONEY AND WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT.
>> WE DID EXECUTE THE COTTONWOOD SIDEWALK AGREEMENT.
WE DID HAVE COMMUNICATIONS TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE WEEK ABOUT THEM GETTING THE MONEY INTO ESCROW . THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ADDED TO THEIR AGREEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT IS IN PROCESS. ALBERTA OR MATT CAN ADD SOME MORE INFORMATION, BUT THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED, AND I EMAILED THEIR ATTORNEY TODAY TO JUST MAKE SURE HE WAS IN THE LOOP AND HAD A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT. AND I EMAILED OUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR AND ASKED HIM TO START THE PAPERWORK, BUT THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY ADDED, THE PROVISION WAS THAT THEY WOULD PUT THE MONEY IN ESCROW, AND THEN WE WOULD RELEASE THE FUNDS. WE ARE WAITING ON THEM.
>> AGREEMENT IS SIGNED. ONCE THEY DEPOSIT THE MONEY, IT IS IN PROCESS. P3 IS DISBURSING THE MONEY OR WHATEVER THAT
PROCESS IS. >> YES. I ASKED HIM TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT, SO AS SOON AS THEY WIRE THE MONEY HERE, WE CAN GET THE TRUSTEE TO WIRE THAT MONEY TO THEM.
>> DOES THAT SOUND , ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT , THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED, WE ARE WAITING FOR I GUESS CONFIRMATION OF THE ESCROW , AND THEN IT IS ALL BEING PROCESSED AND WE WILL BE WRAPPED UP HERE ?
>> THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED. AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE, WHO IS ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT, ABOUT WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO DO ESCROW OR THE BOND, BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. DOTTIE HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE PIT ATTORNEY TO START THE PROCESS OF RELEASING THE FUNDS. OTHER COMMUNICATIONS ARE HAPPENING. WE ARE PROCESSING EVERYTHING. WE ARE MOVING THAT
ALONG AS QUICK AS WE CAN. >> JUST FROM A, TO HELP ME , NORMALLY IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE HAD OTHER, LIKE, WE HAVE AGREED TO A PIT OF SAY $50 MILLION, AND THEN SOMEONE WILL COME UP AND ASK RAY DISPERSEMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CHECKING OFF FOR WHAT IT IS, BUT WE GO OUT AND WE RELEASED $3 MILLION AND THEY SELL BONDS. WHAT WAS THE HANGUP ON THIS ONE
-- >> SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP ON PART OF THE PROPERTY OF THIS PID THAT STARTED THIS ANALYSIS. IN ORDER TO ALLOW ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT WAS THE HUTTO 372 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY HAD SOLD EVERYTHING, SO I SENT OUT TO THE EMAIL, BECAUSE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO RELEASE ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM ANY OBLIGATIONS IS THAT ALL OF THE OBLIGATIONS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED, AND THAT IS WHEN WE DISCOVERED THE SIDEWALK PROBLEM , SO THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED -- AND THE CITY HAS AN OFFSET ORDINANCE THAT IS , IF YOU OWE THE CITY, IF YOU OWE SOMEBODY SOME MONEY, YOU CAN OFFSET IT IF THEY OWE YOU SOMETHING , AN OBLIGATION. THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED US BEING ABLE TO WITHHOLD THE PID FUNDS.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE DO, BUT SHOULD WE HAVE DONE THAT , I MEAN IS THERE ANOTHER PROCESS?
>> THE OTHER CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THEIR ATTORNEY WAS EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS , THOSE PLANTS ARE IN THE ORDINANCE WITH THAT PLAT NOTATION THAT THOSE SIDEWALKS HAD TO BE BUILT, SO IT WASN'T , IT WAS AN OBLIGATION OF THE PID TO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS , SO THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE FACTOR , AND WE JUST TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE
THAT IT WOULD GET BILLED. >> SO WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ESCROW, OR FISCAL BOND, AND ASSUMING THAT GOD FIGURED OUT TOMORROW , AND CONFIRMATION OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THAT IS DONE , WE ARE TALKING END OF THE MONTH.
>> I ALREADY TALKED TO FINANCE, AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT ONCE THEY SIGN EVERYTHING, THERE IS A PID ADMINISTRATOR ONLY WORKING ON IT, THERE IS A 5 DAY PROCESS TO TRANSFER ALL THE
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MONEY. SO, ONCE WE GET THE FINAL BOND ESCROW THING FIGURED OUT , I WILL TELL FINANCE WE ARE GOOD, GO , AND THEY WILL SIGN IT AND IT WILL BE JUST A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE THEY HAVETHEIR MONEY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER LEGAL -- I LIKE TALKING LEGAL STUFF OUT IN PUBLIC .
>> IT IS A FACTUAL THING. THERE IS NO REAL LEGAL TO .
>> AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T PUT IT IN HARMS WAY, I LIKE TALKING
ABOUT THAT. >> WE ARE NOT IN ANY KIND OF
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LITIGATION OR THREATENING ANYBODY. WE ARE JUST TRYING TOGET THIS DONE. >> ALL RIGHT. THEN I GUESS WE WILL MOVE ON AND SKIP 14.1 , AND GO TO 15.1, GENERAL
COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL. >> I HAVE ONE. JUST A REMINDER THAT THE CHRIS KELLY 5K RUN , THE NINTH ANNUAL ONE, IS GOING TO BE ON JUNE 22 . IT IS GOING TO BE AT FRITZ PARK , AND I THINK THEY ARE JUST ACCOMMODATING WITH THE FRITZ PARK RENOVATIONS. SO STILL IN THE SAME LOCATION , SO GET REGISTERED FOR THAT. IT IS FUN. IT IS WARM , BUT WITH THE WEATHER THAT WE HAVE HAD SO FAR, WE SHOULD BE OKAY IF IT CONTINUES. JUST A REMINDER TO REGISTER AND COME OUT FOR A
GOOD TIME. >> YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. SO THE ONE DETAIL I BELIEVE IS INSTEAD OF STARTING IN THE PAVILION, THE START WILL BE AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD. HOLMSTROM IS THE BASEBALL FIELD. THE NEW IN
FOOTBALL FIELD. >> I HAVE A COMMENT. AS SUMMER IS STARTING , I KNOW THAT THE HRC IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO COME AND STOCK SHELVES AND HELP OUT WITH VARIOUS ACTIVITIES AND SO I WANT TO PUT THAT PLUG OUT THERE FOR THE HRC. I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER THEIR.
GREAT INDIVIDUALS. I THINK IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU KNOW , TO PUT YOURSELF TO WORK IF, YOU KNOW , THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS GOING ON. I WANT TO PUT THAT PLUG OUT THERE, AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO PUT A PLUG FOR HAPPY BELATED MOTHER'S DAY TO THE MOTHERS HERE IN HUTTO , AND MOTHER -LIKE FIGURES.
>> THANK YOU ALL . ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER WILL CUT FOR HER SERVICE. SHE PUT A YEAR OF HER LIFE TOWARDS THE CITY OF HUTTO AND I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR HER WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD FOR PUTTING HIS HAT INTO THE RING. THIS IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO TO BE UP HERE AND KIND OF BE IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT, THE PUBLIC EYE. I ALSO WANT TO WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER THORTON BACK TO THE DAIS FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE ARE ALL COMMITTED UP HERE TO SERVE YOU AS YOUR ELECTED
OFFICIALS. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHERS? WE WILL GO ON TO ITEM 15.2, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.
>> AND I DO ONE FOR JUST FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FUNDING THE -- AVERY LAKE INTERCEPTOR , WASTEWATER, TWO LINES, THE TWO
WASTEWATER LINES. >> ALL RIGHT . I HAVE THE ORDINANCES ON PUBLISHING ORDINANCES ITEM.
>> AND THEN ALSO, MR. MAYOR CAN WE GET , I DON'T KNOW IF WE REGULARLY TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF COLLABORATION GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. CAN MAKE IT ANY UNDERSTANDING, OR GET A REPORT ON ANY MEETINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH HIGHEST THE DURING THAT,
DURING THAT TIME? >> LIKE , WHEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND I MEET WITH THEM, JUST REPORT BACK TO YOU ALL?
>> RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE THREE ITEMS. ONE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT , DISCUSSION , AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT?
>> THE CIELO OR HALCION. >> SO THAT DEAL IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN . IS CURRENTLY A MUD THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL TO BRING THEM INTO THE CITY, A DEVELOPING AGREEMENT DISCUSSION ON THAT. A PUBLIC UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE PACKAGE PLANTS -- PLANT .
>> NUMBER FIVE? >> NUMBER FIVE DOWN THERE. AND SPECIFICALLY THE REASON THAT IS NOT SEPARATE ARE NOT PART OF
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THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ONGOING IS THE START OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE END OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEEDED, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, ALSO EXPECTATIONS THAT STAFF HAS OF THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS , TO BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THAT LINE.>> I'M SORRY, NUMBER FIVE IS -- YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT IS DOWN THERE? THAT IS TIED TO THEIR PACKAGE. YES,
SIR. >> RETESTED THE PID. SO TWO ITEMS I GUESS. AND THAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR AND I ARE KIND OF ON AN EMAIL CHAIN BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE WHOLE COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC IS BROUGHT IN AND UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING, AND BY THEN ONCE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND WE HAVE A SENSE OF IT AND EVERYTHING.
>> IS THERE ONE RELEVANT TO THE LINE DOWN THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY ON THE EAST, NORTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN?
>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. YEAH. THAT IS A GOOD ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ONE IS CALLED, BUT THE 42 INCH LINE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON THAT. I WANT US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, BECAUSE IT CAME TO HER ATTENTION THAT IN ORDER FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY TO DEVELOP, WE NEED A 42 INCH LINE THAT HASN'T STARTED BEING DESIGNED YET, SO THAT PROPERTY CAN'T EVEN DEVELOP UNTIL WE GET THIS OTHER PART, WHICH MAY ADJUST FUNDING . SO WE WILL PUT, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THAT OVER THERE ?
>> WHAT YOU ARE TALKING THAT IS A WASTEWATER LINE THAT IS THE INTERCEPTOR FOR COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES?
>> WHAT IS THAT CALL TO NOW? ACTION ON THE 42 INCH LINE THAT GOES FROM THE LENNAR AND THE DRC?
>> FROM THE TRC, LAURA, AND FRITZ, AND GREINER, DOWN PAST COTTONWOOD AND ACROSS IS UNDER 79.
>> WHAT IS THE NAME THAT YOU ARE THROWING OUT BEHIND-THE-SCENES FOR THAT, THE 42 INCH --
>> WE ARE JUST CALLING IT THE OFF-SITE FOR FRITZ AND GREINER.
>> THE OFF-SITE FOR WHO? >> FRITZ AND GREINER. SO PUBLIC DISCUSSION ACTION ON THAT WHERE WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> I WILL TAKE A PICTURE AND SEND THIS ALL TO YOU PICK ANY OTHER ITEMS? THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCILMEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 15.3, FUTURE ADDITIONAL RESCHEDULED READINGS AS ALLOWED BY HUTTO CITY CODE SECTION 1.0 2.033 ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULED MEETINGS. ANYTHING THERE. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN ADJOURN AT EIGHT: 09R ARGUE FOR AN HOUR.
>> I GUESS WITH THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, I KNOW IT HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THE JOINT COUNCIL AND EDC MEETING BEFORE , I GUESS , BUDGET SEASON STARTS , YOU KNOW , TO FIGURE OUT , NOT GUARDRAILS, BUT, LIKE YOU KNOW , WHERE WE ARE AT WITH EACH OTHER ON PROPERTIES.
>> WELL , THE EDC IS TURNING IN THEIR BUDGET AT THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE, SO I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TO SEE THAT, AND THEN
-- >> YEAH, WE CAN. JUST, I GUESS, SOMETIMES BEFORE , I GUESS WE COMPLETE THIS BUDGET YEAR,
RIGHT? >> I LIKE THAT. THEN WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE LAST YEAR WHERE SOME OF US ARE THINKING OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK CAN ASK FOR IT, SO JUST ANOTHER, JUST TRYING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE SURFACE I GUESS.
>> WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT WITH THE CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER MEETING STUFF? WE WILL
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