Aug 15, 2024 City Council

[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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>>> 7:00 O'CLOCK AND WE CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, AUGUST 15, 2024 TO ORDER. WE WILL START WITH ROLLCALL. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER THORTON? PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARK? MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? MAYOR SNYDER IS HERE. NEXT IF YOU WILL RISE WE WILL BE LED IN THE INVOCATION BY SISTER SHARPE OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

>> DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO BE HERE GATHERED TOGETHER THIS NIGHT AND PLEASE BLESS US THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS OPEN, AND THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PATIENCE. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THIS WONDERFUL CITY THAT WE LIVE IN AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY . WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE THIS COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF AND PLEASE HELP US TO KNOW HOW WE CAN BETTER GROW AND STRENGTHEN THIS COMMUNITY. WE SAY THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.

>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS, ONE

[5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

>> JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER. WE WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO EVERYONE. YOU CAN USE THE QR CODE TO FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. ON AUGUST 20, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 28, COUNTY ROAD 142 BETWEEN BRINSON BOULEVARD AND 3349 WILL BE CLOSED BETWEEN 9:00 A.M. AND 4:00 P.M. THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR A TRENCHING FOR A WASTEWATER PIPE THAT IS BEING INSTALLED AS A PART OF ONE OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS.

RESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES AND YOU CAN FIND DETAILS ON THE CLOSING THROUGH THAT LINK OR ON THE CIP DASHBOARD. WE WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE THAT APPLICATIONS ARE NOW OPEN FOR THE NEXT HUTTO CITIZENS UNIVERSITY. CLASSES WILL RUN EVERY TUESDAY FROM 6:00 - 8:00 P.M. BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 10. THE CITY IS HOSTING THIS FREE NINE WEEK PROGRAM TO INTEGRATE RESIDENCE INTO HOW-- INTO THEIR COMMUNITY AND FACILITATE A MORE IN-DEPTH UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS AND HOW COMMUNITIES DEVELOP. PLEASE APPLY ONLINE THROUGH THE APPLICATION PORTAL BEFORE AUGUST 30 TO HAVE YOUR APPLICATION CONSIDERED. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS SATURDAY, WE HAVE A TOWNHALL ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PROPOSED BUDGET , SO WE INVITE ALL RESIDENTS TO COME TOGETHER FOR AN INFORMATIVE AND ENGAGING DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE CITY'S FINANCIAL PLANS, ASK QUESTIONS AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW AND THRIVE AS A COMMUNITY. BRING THE FAMILY BECAUSE WHILE YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE TOWNHALL ITCH WILL BE IN THE LOBBY, THE KIDS CAN BE IN HERE ENJOYING A FUN MOVIE IN COUNCIL CHANGING-- CHAMBERS. THAT IS AT 6:00 O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY, I BELIEVE? MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

>> WHAT WAS THE MOVIE THAT WAS ELECTED?

>> INSIDE OUT. INSIDE BURGERS? OUT BURGERS?

[6. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, HE WILL START SPEAKING AND THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN. WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT IT WILL GO TO YELLOW AND THEN READ BEFORE WE CUT YOU OFF. FIRST WE HAVE AARON KING.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, SUBTLY -- CITY ATTORNEY AND MANAGER. I LIVE IN HUTTO . NEEDS VERSUS WANTS. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ROADS, WATER, WASTEWATER AND PUBLIC SAFETY .

OUTSIDE OF THAT, ALL OF THE CATEGORIES FALL UNDER WANTS IN MY OPINION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE UNIMPORTANT. THEY SHOULD BE BUDGETED WITHOUT THE BURDEN OF INCREASING TAXES. IN SPEAKING WITH SOME OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES , THERE APPEARS

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SURE THAT HE HAS MORE NOW. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAY I FINISH? >> KNOW SOME OF SIR. -- NO, SIR. WHAT I DID WANT TO SAY TO YOU? THANK YOU FOR SIGNING THAT LETTER NOT TO INCREASE OUR TAXES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPLAUSE ] >> NEXT WE HAVE JOHN

STEPHENSON. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND IF I TALK. I'M THE CHAIRPERSON.

>> YOUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER STEPHENSON OR -- OKAY. MAYOR SNYDER AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF . YOUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD FOR A PROPOSAL TO FUND THE ACTIVITIES OF THE HBC FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. LAST FEBRUARY, OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS ATTENDED A GOALSETTING MEETING -- EXCUSE ME, I GET NERVOUS.

>> WE GET NERVOUS, TOO. >> MEETING WITH CITY LEADERS AT NADINE JOHNSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AT THAT TIME, MAYOR SNYDER MADE A GENERAL COMMENT TO ALL IN ATTENDANCE THAT HE HOPED OUR COMMISSION WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST A GROUP THAT REVIEWS CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION PLANS FOR OLD TOWNE HUTTO. WE ARE HERE TODAY -- EXCUSE ME.

>> I'M SHAKING. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THAT CHALLENGE AND OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN FOUR AREAS OR PROJECTS. NUMBER ONE, THE PRODUCTION OF A COMPREHENSIVE CITY HISTORY, CHAPTER 1 HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY. WE WILL SOON LAUNCH A MEDIA CAMPAIGN WITH CITY COMMUNICATION STAFF TO PROMOTE AND APPROVE CHAPTER ONE. MEANWHILE, WE ARE ACTIVELY

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THIS CHAPTER FOLLOWS THE PIECING TOGETHER OF 8 DIFFERENT LAND SECTIONS OVER A 35 YEAR PERIOD TO FORM WHAT WE NOW CALL OLD TOWNE HUTTO. THIS RESEARCH AND WRITING PROCESS COST MONEY.

NUMBER TWO. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE HUTTO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO PLAN AND HOLD EVENTS THAT CELEBRATE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IN 2025. WE ARE PROPOSING A MODEST BUDGET FOR THE CELEBRATION WITH THE CHAMBER ALSO PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THIS EVENT. THIRD, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ROTARY CLUB TO PLACE HISTORICAL MARKERS AROUND HUTTO WITH QR CODES PROVIDING VISITORS AND RESIDENTS WITH A FUN AND EASY WAY TO LEARN ABOUT OUR HISTORY. THE ROTARY CLUB IS PRIMARILY FUNDING THIS PROJECT, BUT WE PROPOSE THAT THE CITY ADD A MODEST AMOUNT TO THE EXPENSE OF THIS PROJECT. NUMBER FOUR. EACH YEAR, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THE TEXAS STATE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION SPONSOR CONFERENCES AND TRAINING SESSIONS. THESE EVENTS AND RICH THE UNDERSTANDING OF COMMISSION MEMBERS AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES. THESE EVENTS HAVE REGISTRATION FEES TO ATTEND IN PERSON OR A REMOTELY. WE PROPOSE THAT ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND AT LEAST ONE OF THESE EVENTS. WE REQUEST A MODEST BUDGET TO COVER THESE FEES. THERE YOU HAVE IT. WE WANT TO BE MORE THAN JUST A COMMISSION THAT REVIEWS BUILDING PLANS. WE WANT TO FULFILL THE VISION OF THE MAYOR THAT WE DO MORE. PLEASE GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO OUR REQUEST , AND LET US KNOW WHAT KIND OF HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION YOU WANT FOR YOUR CITY. THANK YOU. PLEASE EXCUSE MY EXTREME NERVES.

>> YOU DID GREAT.

>> IF Y'ALL HAVE SOME NUMBERS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD SHARE THEM WITH US. YOU COULD MAYBE SEND IT TO THE MAYOR AND HE CAN SHARE IT OUT. ASHLAND WOULD BE GREAT, TOO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE WILL WILLIAMS.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. I'M NOT A CITIZEN HERE BUT I VISIT A LOT. MORE THAN YOU KNOW. I AM WILL WILLIAMS FROM ROUND ROCK, TEXAS. I'M HERE TO HELP. I'M A VETERAN, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? I'M A VETERAN, AS MOST EVERYONE CAN SEE. I'M HERE TO HELP YOU GUYS WITH YOUR VETERANS. IT'S A SHAME THAT WE DON'T STAND UP FOR OUR VETERANS ENOUGH. IT IS.

AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. AND IN TURN, THE VETERANS HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING REVENUE IN FOR THE CITY.

I STAND HERE TO LISTEN ABOUT BUDGETS AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT TO SPEND. WE CAN BRING IN SOME MONEY FOR YOU. HOW? WE DON'T HAVE A HEADQUARTERS RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE A LOCATION. YOU GUYS HELP US GET A LOCATION, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO. FIELDS OF HONOR. A PARADE. THE PARADE IN ROUND ROCK BRINGS IN $60,000 REVENUE. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE HAD A PARADE HERE FOR THE RESTAURANTS, CONVENIENCE STORES ? HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD BRING IN? I MEAN, WE HAD ALMOST 30,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR IN ROUND ROCK.

ONLY ABOUT 10 WERE CITIZENS. SO, WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT 20,000 PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF ROUND ROCK. DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON THEM, FOR THEM, DON'T HAVE TO FIX THE ROADS FOR THEM BUT THEY LEFT THE MONEY THERE. THAT'S PURE MONEY. I'M SURE ALL YOU GUYS ARE BUSINESS PEOPLE AND YOU UNDERSTAND BRINGING IN REVENUE. I'M NOT HERE TO PREACH TO YOU, I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE NEED A BUILDING. RIGHT NOW THE AMERICAN LEGION DO NOT HAVE A HOME. BUT WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS BUT HOW CAN WE DO IT IF WE DON'T HAVE A HOME? NOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT LATER WE COULD SET UP MAYBE A BINGO HALL. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY BINGO HALLS BRING IN? THINGS THAT THE CITY SPENDS MONEY ON NOW TO RUN. PARADES. LET THE VETERANS DO IT. CHANGE THE FLAGS, LET THE VETERANS DO IT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN ROUND ROCK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT WE HAVE RICK HUDSON. >> ALL RIGHT. HEY EVERYBODY.

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LAST WEEK, WE HAD THREE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TELL CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD.

THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. THE THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO HAVE TOLD COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. THE ROADS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CROSSWALKS AND SIGNALS, THE SPORTS FIELD, THE SENIOR CENTER. WE TOLD COUNCIL WHAT TO PRIORITIZE FOR YEARS. BUT NOW WE ARE BEING TOLD A PLEDGE TAKES PRIORITY. THAT'S NOT HOW A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC WORKS. MAYBE IF THERE WAS DATA TO SUPPORT THIS PLEDGE, I WOULDN'T BE SO DISGUSTED. MAYBE IF THERE WAS A POLL, A SURVEY, A BALLOT MEASURE, ANYTHING BESIDES FACEBOOK CHATTER. BUT, THERE ISN'T. THEY'VE HAD FIVE YEARS TO ASK THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TAXES OR SERVICES. IT HASN'T HAPPENED. INSTEAD, WE GET A PLEDGE THAT THEY SPRUNG ON US. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEIR ATTENTIONS -- IF THEIR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD OR BAD, HELPFUL OR HURTFUL.

THAT'S NOT HOW A GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION. THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SEEM TO HAVE LOST SIGHT OF HOW A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. MAYBE THEY THINK THE DYSFUNCTION IN WASHINGTON DC IS ACCEPTABLE. NEWSFLASH, THIS AIN'T WASHINGTON DC. THE ELECTED DO NOT DICTATE TO THE ELECTORATE. THEY REPRESENT US AND IMPLEMENT OUR WISHES . WE ARE THE ELECTORATE. NOT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, CAMPAIGN DONORS, KEYBOARD WARRIORS, AND NONCITIZENS. COUNCIL'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SERVE US , NOT THEMSELVES. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONSTITUTION AND EXISTING LAWS.

THIS IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS, COLLEGES AND EVEN THE BOY SCOUTS. THIS IS NOT NEW. MAYBE SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FORGOT WHAT THEIR ROLE IS. THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO HAVE SPOKEN.

THEIR VOICES WERE COMPILED TO CREATE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN , YOU PRIORITIZE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. NEXT YOU WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT PLAN HAPPEN. DRAWING A LINE IN THE SAND IS NOT PART OF YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION AND IT NEVER WAS. THE CITIZENS OF HATO HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO. EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST NOISE. THE CLOCK IS TICKING. GET TO WORK.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE MILT-- APOLOGIZE . HOW DID I

DO? >> PRETTY GOOD. THANKS.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MILT, I LIVE HERE IN HUTTO AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. LAST WEEK, CITY COUNCIL HELD A MEETING WHERE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WAS LARGELY PUSHING A NO NEW PROPERTY TAXES AGENDA.

A DOMINANT PROPORTION OF PERSONS WHO APPEARED WITH SIGNS AND SPOKE LAST WEEK APPEARED TO BE PERSONS OF RETIREMENT AGE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND OVER 65 EXEMPTIONS, AND WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES. THE MAJOR STATED CONCERN WAS THAT CITIZENS WERE OR WOULD BE SELLING OUT , LEAVING THE CITY DUE TO BEING UNABLE TO AFFORD THEIR PROPERTY TAXES IF THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS WOULD BE THE CASE. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION REGARDING WHY PEOPLE MOVE OR LEAVE HUTTO IS NOT COLLECTED OR REPORTED. IN DEMOGRAPHICS IN 2022, OUR POPULATION WAS 36,647 , WHICH WAS AN 18.61 INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 2023 IT MOVED UP TO 38,675, WHICH WAS A 5.78% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND IN 24, THIS YEAR, ESTIMATED POPULATION IS GOING TO BE AROUND 42,000, WHICH IS A

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>> I'M SORRY. WE NEED TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY, THANK YOU,

SIR. NEXT WE HAVE DEBBIE. >> SHORT PEOPLE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. 104 HUTTO STREET. I MUST ADMIT THAT THE RHETORIC AND HATE ON FACEBOOK SEEMS TO HAS HAVE CALMED DOWN CONSIDERABLY AND FOR THAT I AM GRATEFUL. WHAT DOES CONCERN ME IS WHAT I PERCEIVE AS DIFFERING REASONS WHY SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SERVING, OR ATTEMPTING TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. YOUR POSITION AS A HUTTO CITY COUNCIL PERSON IS NOT AN EASY ONE. THERE ARE NO PREREQUISITE CLASSES OR TRAININGS TO COMPLETE. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AND RETREATS TO LEARN THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF SITTING ON THIS DAIS . THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS TODAY SITTING ON THIS DAIS WHO APPEARED TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROLE OF COUNCILMEMBER ENTAILS. THIS IS A JOB THAT YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO DO AND YET IT APPEARS YOU ARE FORGETTING WHO YOUR EMPLOYER IS. LET ME REMIND YOU, IT IS THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO. MANY OF WHOM ARE SITTING IN THIS CHAMBER OR VIEWING ONLINE, OR WILL BE WATCHING NEXT WEEK.

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BRINGING IN MORE HOUSING AND MORE BUSINESS IS TO HUTTO IS THE ANSWER, I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT. I REALIZE THERE ARE DIFFICULTIES AND DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF HUTTO THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER, BUT AT THIS POINT, I AM WONDERING IF THIS COUNCIL STAFF AND CITY MANAGER ARE IN CONTROL OF MUCH OF ANYTHING. I QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF ALLOWING A CITY MANAGER TO HAVE A SIDE GIG WHILE EMPLOYED BY YOU SEVEN AND ALLOWED TO BE OUT OF THE OFFICE AS MUCH AS IT APPEARS HE IS. GIVEN THE DIFFICULTIES OF COMING INTO THIS JOB AFTER THE PAST 6 TO 8 YEARS, I WOULD THINK HIS PLATE IS OVERFLOWING. TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO IN QUESTION , IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND AND COMMUNICATE WITH CITIZENS, YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED. YOU ARE LOSING CITIZENS THAT MUCH TOO RAPID OF A PACE AND SEEING LITTLE EFFORTS IN CORRECTING THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT WITH ONE ANOTHER. THOSE BEING ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, TAXES, LACK OF AMPLE WATER, JUST TO NAME A FEW. PLEASE GIVE US SOME THOUGHT TO WHY YOU ARE SITTING UP THERE ON THE DAIS , AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO PROVIDE A BETTER AND MORE COMPLETE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY ? WE ARE ALL WATCHING AND WAITING. THANK YOU.

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>> I AM KARINA , HELLO NEIGHBORS . I'VE BEEN IN HUTTO SINCE 2017. MY NEIGHBORS PROBABLY LOVE AND HATE ME BECAUSE I AM VERY INVOLVED IN SPORTS COMMUNITIES AND I SIT ON SEVERAL BOARDS, COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS. I TRY TO STAY ACTIVELY INVOLVED AND CONNECT WITH MY COMMUNITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM A LITTLE BIT DISTRAUGHT ABOUT SOME OF THE RHETORIC THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING. I'M VERY PROUD OF MY COMMUNITY FOR SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING UP ABOUT THE TAXES THAT THEY DON'T WANT. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. NOBODY WANTS HIGHER TAXES. BUT WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW VITRIOLIC SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE GOTTEN AND I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED BECAUSE BY AND LARGE I SEE MY NEIGHBORS DOWN THE STREET AT SPORTING EVENTS BUT SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA RHETORIC HAS GOTTEN VERY PERSONAL AND IT'S DISTRACTING BECAUSE IT'S BEING CONFLATED WITH WHAT WE ACTUALLY WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT AS A BUSY VOLUNTEER WHO ALSO WORKS FOR ALL TIME IS THAT BEING A VOLUNTEER IS VERY DIFFICULT WHETHER YOU ARE ELECTED TO IT OR PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION. I ALSO LEAD GROUPS OF VOLUNTEERS AND MY PERSPECTIVE AS SOMEONE WHO DOES A LOT OF THOSE HOURS IN THE COMMUNITY GIVING BACK, IS THAT I WOULD NOT WANT MY VOLUNTEERS TO TELL ME AS A PAID PROFESSIONAL HOW TO DO MY JOB. THEY WANT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DO THIS ON A VOLUNTEER, PART-TIME, PAID OR UNPAID BASIS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR EVERYBODY WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT PAID PROFESSIONALS WHICH ARE STAFF, WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO. THAT IS A MISTAKE. THE REASON WE HIRE PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK AND GIVE US INFORMATION WHETHER IT'S ABOUT FUNDRAISING OR CITY MATTERS IS BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FULL-TIME JOB. I WOULD NEVER EXPECT A VOLUNTEER WHETHER ELECTED OR WHETHER YOU PUT YOURSELF THERE, TO BE THE PRIME EXPERT ON WHAT A LARGE AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY WANTS, SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO PUNISH COUNCILMEMBERS OR OTHER VOLUNTEERS FOR HAVING A PERSONAL LIFE OR TAKING TIME OFF. I TAKE THAT PERSONALLY, SOMEONE WHO GIVES A LOT OF TIME BACK. I WOULD NEVER SACRIFICE MY PERSONAL TIME AS A VOLUNTEER OR FAMILY MEMBER OR COMMUNITY MEMBER BECAUSE I AM BEING PRESSURED THAT I'M A BAD PERSON FOR TAKING THAT TIME. I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT PEOPLE WHO GIVE THEIR TIME THIS WAY WHETHER PAID OR NOT IS BECAUSE IT IS A BIG ASK AND SACRIFICE SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STEP UP TO VOLUNTEER AND SERVE. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE IS AGAINST EVERYTHING COMING OUT SOMETIME. AS I REPRESENT WORKING FAMILIES WHO HAVE KIDS THAT ARE STILL IN SCHOOLS, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN NOT EVERYBODY WANTS A TAX HIKE AND THAT'S OKAY. MY FAMILY CAN PERSONALLY AFFORD IT BUT THAT IS NOT EVERYBODY'S SITUATION. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THAT WE GO WITHOUT THE TAX HIKE AND THEN ALSO GO WITHOUT THE ARCS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS THAT WE DO WANT. THINGS WE HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT WE WANT WITH IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND WHAT I REPRESENT, MY AGE GROUP AND THE ONES RAISING CHILDREN THAT HAVE A STAKE IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD GO WITHOUT THE TAX HIKE, GREAT BUT THEN WE ALSO GO WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TRAILS, PARKS, AND RECREATION. WE DON'T SPEND IT HERE BUT WE WILL SPEND IT IN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE GO TO ROUND ROCK AND WE WILL GO TO AUSTIN TO GO AND ENJOY THE AMENITIES THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INVEST IN AND GET SO WE ARE NOT KEEPING OUR MONEY IN OUR POCKET. WE'RE STILL GOING TO SPEND IT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PART OF QUALITY OF LIFE. SO NOT JUST COUNCIL BUT I HOPE MY NEIGHBORHOODS UNDERSTANDS THAT ARGUING AGAINST A TAX HIKE AND TRYING TO ACCUSE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF MISSED DOINGS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET ANYTHING DONE AND THAT WE KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE THINGS WE DO WANT, THE THINGS WE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT WE WANT TO ENJOY A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. THANK YOU.

] >> NEXT WE HAVE RUDY PEREZ.

>> GOOD EVENING, CITY MANAGER. MAYOR, COUNCIL DAN, COUNCIL EVAN, CITY ATTORNEY DOTTIE , THE PEOPLE OF HUTTO STILL HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INDECENT ACTIVITIES OF PAST CITY MANAGERS AND CURRENT COUNCIL. WE DESERVE ANSWERS.

PETER, RANDALL, BRIAN, ANNE-MARIE, -- AMBERLEY KOLAR, DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR HUTTO. LET'S MAKE HUTTO GREAT . DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF HUTTO. ALSO, LET'S MAKE SURE OUR HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE TAKEN CARE OF ALWAYS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> WE DID RECEIVE AN ONLINE COMMENT FROM CHRISTIAN. JUST

[7.1 Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Updates and Presentations (Matt Rector)\]

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>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD-- CITY ENGINEER. OF GETTING OLD NOW , WE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE SO I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A QUARTERLY UPDATE WE ARE FOCUSING ON TRANSPORTATION TONIGHT SO I WILL RUN THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK THE FIRST ONE UP HERE TO UPDATE YOU IS 6060, I THINK EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE AND WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE THAT WE'VE HAD OUR PRE-PAVE INSPECTION SO YOU WILL START SEEING PAVEMENT GOING DOWN SO WE CAN FINISH UP PHASE I AND START SHIFTING TRAFFIC CONTROL WHICH MEANS LANES ARE GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP PHASE I ONCE WE GET IT PAVED SO WE CAN START WORKING ON THE NEXT PHASE. CR 137 AT 1660, AN UPDATE ON THIS ONE IS WE ARE PROGRESSING FORWARD AND WE'VE SUBMITTED TO TEXT.-- TE X DOT BUT WE WILL NEED A RIGHT AWAY DONATION AGREEMENT AND WILL HAVE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE DOCUMENT AND THE PLANS THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN THE NEW ACCESS , ASSETS WHICH IS THE NEW ROUNDABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. CONSULTANTS ARE WORKING ON THOSE ITEMS NOW.

IS SOMETHING THAT TEXDOT THREW A CURVEBALL AT US WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT WE'VE ALREADY SHIFTED AND WE ARE RUNNING WITH IT. LAKESIDE ESTATE SIDEWALKS , PHASE 2 IS COMPLETE. I THINK IT WAS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SO TWO WEEKS AGO, WE ACTUALLY ACCEPTED THAT IMPROVEMENT. PHASE 3 IS FULLY DESIGNED AND IT IS IN THE CIP FOR NEXT YEAR FOR CONSTRUCTION ONCE THE CIP GETS APPROVED. CR 132 OVERPASS AT US 79. WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT REVIEW FOR TEXDOT AND SO WE ARE WAITING FOR THEIR COMMENTS. WE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY FEEDBACK FROM THEM, MINOR STUFF. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE DETAILED STUFF TO COME BACK AT ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT GENERALLY THIS PROJECT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD FROM US, SO THIS ONE IS MOVING FORWARD. EAST-WEST ARTERIAL, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON TRYING TO REVISE DRAINAGE AND GET THE CHANGE ORDER SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS ONE MOVING FORWARD AGAIN AND GET IT COMPLETED. FARMS, THE INTERSECTION IS OUT ON THE STREET FORBIDDING SO WE SHOULD BE BIDDING THAT-- AND CONSULTANTS ARE ESTIMATING 60 - 90 DAYS ONCE WE AWARD THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AND LIMBER. THE BIDDING IS COMPLETE AND WE HAD THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING TODAY SO YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE STARTING TO WORK, STARTING TO DO EROSION CONTROL AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

NOTHING TO IMPACT TRAFFIC YET BUT THAT WILL BE COMING SOON.

THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> JUST THE ONE RELATING WHEN YOU SAID THE CURVEBALL ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE. IF THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 1660 AT THE OVERPASS BRIDGE WE WOULD HAVE THAT MAINTENANCE ANYWAYS LONG-TERM, CORRECT? SO I JUST WANTED CITIZENS TO HEAR THAT THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THAT ROAD REGARDLESS SO HAVING THAT AGREEMENT I DON'T FORESEE IS A BIG PROBLEM BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP.

>> FOR THE RECORD JAMES , CITY MANAGER, YOU ALSO MIGHT POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COST OF MAINTAINING A RED LIGHT IF THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERSUS THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF A ROUNDABOUT.

>> OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE A SIGNAL, THERE'S CONCRETE, THERE'S POLES, ELECTRICAL. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO HELP YOU WITH SIGNAL TIMING AND RUNNING ALL THE COMPUTERS THERE. A ROUNDABOUT, YOU HAVE PAVEMENT, BASICALLY.

SO MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE A LOT LOWER ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, A LOT LOWER ON A ROUNDABOUT THEN AN

INTERSECTION. >> THANK YOU.

>> ON THE T5 PROJECT , HAVE WE STARTED GETTING RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH?

>> T5? YES AND NO. WE HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS BACK WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSING TO DO A PROJECT UP THERE , BUT MY

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ALL OF THAT UP RIGHT NOW. >> ALL RIGHT, ON THE T 07 PROJECT, WHEN DID THEY START THE DESIGN ON THAT? IS THAT -- HAS THAT DESIGN STARTED? IT DIDN'T START IN Q2, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED ORIGINALLY?

>> IT WAS SOMETIME AROUND -- YEAH, I WANT TO SAY MARCH OR APRIL, MAYBE MAY OF LAST YEAR THAT THEY STARTED THAT .

BECAUSE WE HAD THE PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH COUNCIL IN THE WORKSHOP I BELIEVE AUGUST OF LAST YEAR WHERE WE PRESENTED THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL CHOSE THE

OPTION THAT THEY WANTED. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MATT, ON T07 , ARE YOU SPEAKING WITH OUR MASTER DEVELOPER ON THAT PROJECT TO UNDERSTAND , NOT THAT THEY WOULD GIVE, LIKE , PREFERENCE, BUT ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AS FAR AS ANYONE THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT

THAT CORNER COMMERCIALIZE? >> THEY HAVE BEEN LOOPED INTO ALL OF THE PROGRESS MEETINGS WITH THE CONSULTANT SO THEY'VE BEEN A PART OF ALL OF THOSE. NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THEM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT AS WELL AS THE EDC CONSULTANT TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A JOINT PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL IN THE VERY NEAR

FUTURE. >> OKAY, COOL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IT. THANK YOU.

[7.2 Hutto Chamber of Commerce Quarterly Presentation (Joe Gonzalez)]

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 72. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

PRESENTATION . >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER MISTER JAMES EARP AND STAFF. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE HUTTO CHAMBER OF COVER COMMERCE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR AUGUST 2024. THIS REPORT WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR RECENT ACHIEVEMENTS , ONGOING INITIATIVES, AND FUTURE PLANS.

IT WILL BE SHOWCASING MEMBERSHIP GROWTH, EVENTS , MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION, AND OUR UPCOMING PLANS AND GOALS. AS ALWAYS, I WILL START OFF WITH MEMBERSHIP GROWTH. AS OF AUGUST 2024, THE HUTTO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS A TOTAL OF 353 BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS. DURING THIS PERIOD WE HAVE WELCOMED 27 NEW MEMBERS AND THIS GROWTH HIGHLIGHTS OUR ROLE IN FACILITATING THE BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT, AND STRENGTHENING OF OUR ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE AN EVENT DRIVEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE CHAMBER HAS HOSTED A SERIES OF SUCCESSFUL EVENTS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, AND SUPPORT OUR BUSINESS GROWTH. IN THE LAST QUARTER WE HAVE ORGANIZED 12 NETWORKING EVENTS WHICH INCLUDE LUNCHEONS, POWER BREAKFAST AND AFTER HOURS SESSIONS. IN REFERENCE TO LUNCHEONS, WE HAVE OBSERVED A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE AT OUR LUNCHEONS WITH THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES RISING, AND AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, 30 RISING, AND AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, 3220 , 33 YEARS AGO TO A WHOPPING 70 ATTENDEES ON THE AVERAGE. THIS LAST WEDNESDAY WE DID HAVE OUR MONTHLY LUNCHEON AND WE HOVERED, JAMES CAN ATTEST, WE HOVERED OVER ROUGHLY ABOUT 80 ATTENDEES. THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ATTENDEES AND A HIPPITY WITH OUR LUNCHEON DURING THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR.

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THESE CEREMONIES SERVE TO HIGHLIGHT AND CELEBRATE THE ONGOING GROWTH AND SUCCESS WITHIN OUR LOCAL SECTOR. THE SUPPORT OF THESE RIBBON CUTTINGS HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS, AS WELL, AND WE THANK EVERYONE HERE IN ATTENDANCE WHO HAS ATTENDED ONE OF THESE RIBBON CUTTINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT TO SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY THE BUSINESSES. THEY GREATLY APPRECIATED. THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM IS TREMENDOUS. IT IS ATTRIBUTED TO EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO IS DOING, THE CHAMBER IS DOING, AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS DOING AS WELL. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REALLY HONE IN ON THESE TWO EVENTS DURING THE COURSE OF THE REST OF THIS YEAR BUT ESPECIALLY GOING INTO 2025 . OF COURSE WE ARE ANTICIPATING GROWTH, SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT BOTH OF THESE EVENTS WILL INCREASE AND MUCH MORE, IN BIGGER NUMBERS. ALSO, YOU KNOW THAT HERE AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE ARE A VERY MARKET-DRIVEN AND SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. OUR MARKETING EFFORTS HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ENHANCING VISIBILITY AND ENGAGEMENT FOR OUR MEMBERS. OUR WEBSITE SAW SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY WITH 50,000 VISITORS AND A 15,000 DIRECT RESEARCHERS INDICATING IMPORTANCE OF A HUGE RESOURCE OF LOCAL BUSINESS INFORMATION. WE ARE CONTINUING WITH VIDEO PROMOTIONS, WE HAVE PRODUCED AND PROMOTED VIDEOS THAT HAVE ACHIEVED OVER 10,000 CONSISTENT VIEWS OVER THE LAST QUARTER. SOMETHING WE ARE ADDING THIS QUARTER AND MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A PHYSICAL MAP, A TANGIBLE MAP , TO FURTHER PROMOTE OUR MEMBERS. THIS HARDCOPY MAP WILL PROVIDE VISITORS WITH A TANGIBLE REPRESENTATION OF THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND IMPACT, ENHANCING THEIR ABILITY TO NAVIGATE AND CONNECT WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THIS. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS BUT AS SOON AS WE GET THAT WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU, AND OF

COURSE THE COMMUNITY. >> COUNCILMAN GORDON ASKED ME IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANYTHING NEW ADDED TO THIS QUARTERLY REPORT. THE ANSWER IS YES. WHAT WE HAVE ADDED TO THIS REPORT IS UPCOMING PLANS AND GOALS. LOOKING AHEAD, THE CHAMBER HAS SEVERAL KEY INITIATIVES PLANNED FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND OF COURSE GOING INTO 2025. OUR FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ON WEBSITE ENHANCEMENTS, MEMBER VIDEOS, AND ONE-ON-ONE CONSULTATIONS. WE WILL INTRODUCE TARGETED ADVERTISEMENTS ON OUR WEBSITE TO ENCOURAGE MEMBER VISIBILITY AND ATTRACT MORE TRAFFIC. ADDITIONALLY, WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT USER-FRIENDLY IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL WEBSITE EXPERIENCE. AND OTHER WORDS, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK IN AND REVISE THE WAY WE HAVE IT DESIGNED, MAKE IT EASIER, EASIER TO NAVIGATE TO GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH TOO MANY OBSTACLES TO FIND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO WORK ON AND CONTINUE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL VIDEOS TO SHOWCASE MEMBER BUSINESSES, HIGHLIGHTING THEIR PRODUCTS, SERVICES AND SUCCESS STORIES. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE 39TH ANNUAL HUTTO O TIME DAYS, THE BIGGEST LAST EVENT OF THE YEAR. PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT WILL BE ON OCTOBER 12, 2024. WE ARE ANTICIPATING BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW EVENTS , A NUMBER BETWEEN 8000 TO 10,000 PEOPLE TO ATTEND. OUR OUTSIDE EVENTS HAVE BEEN GAINING A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND A LOT OF INTEREST AND IT IS A TRADITION. SOMETHING HUTTO HAS DONE FOR SO LONG , 31 YEARS AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS EVENT AS WELL. SOMETHING WE HAVE IS MORE OF AN ADDED VALUE TO MEMBERS IS ONE-ON-ONE CONSULTATION. THIS WOULD BE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. WE WILL OFFER PERSONALIZED CONSULTATIONS COVERING BUSINESS STRATEGIES, MARKETING ADVICE AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT , EQUIPPING THEM WITH TOOLS FOR GROWTH AND SUCCESS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR A WHILE AND WILL BE TAKING FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS ON WHAT THEY REALLY WANT AND WHAT THEY REALLY WANT IS TRYING TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN FIND SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE. I AM A COMMERCIAL BANKER, THEY CAN COME IN AND SIT WITH ME FOR WHATEVER TIME THAT WE ALLOCATE AND CAN GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO DO

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ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU, JOE. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[7.3 Mosquito Management presentation by the Williamson County and Cities Health District (Jake Isbell)]

>> YOU ALL HAVE A NICE EVENING. >> 7.3, MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT PRESENTATION BY THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND CITY'S HEALTH

DISTRICT . >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JAKE ISBELL, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE RECENT ACTIVITY OF THE ADULT MOSQUITO POPULATION TRANSMITTING WEST NILE VIRUS, WE'VE HAD TWO TRAPS THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT 10 YEARS SO I THOUGHT IT PRUDENT TO BRING OUR CONTENT MATTER EXPERT AND GREAT PARTNERS AT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND HEALTH DISTRICT TO GIVE US A SHORT PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE COORDINATING TOGETHER. I WOULD LIKE TO

INTRODUCE JASON FRITZ. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO AS HE SAID, MY NAME IS JASON FRITZ AND I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH AT A MALL -- ENTOMOLOGIST AT THE CITIES HEALTH DISTRICT AND I OVERSEE THE MOSQUITO SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROGRAM DOESN'T TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT SITUATION COUNTYWIDE AND SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. OVERALL WITH MOSQUITO SURVEILLANCE OPERATIONS, WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR IS WE GO OUT FROM MAY TO NOVEMBER WHEN MOSQUITOES ARE MOST ACTIVE, TRAP THEM WEEKLY AND TEST THEM FOR DIFFERENT VIRUSES. ADDITIONALLY WE COULD CHECK AREAS OF STANDING WATER WHICH IS A PRIMARY HABITAT FOR MOSQUITOES, AND IF THERE IS ANY EVIDENCE OF MOSQUITOES AS YOU CAN SEE ME DIPPING THE LITTLE ROADSIDE DITCH, WE WILL TREAT THEM WITH A LARVA SIDE. ADDITIONALLY AS AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST, I INVESTIGATE HUMAN CASES OF THINGS LIKE DENGUE VIRUS, WEST NILE AND ALL OF THE MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASES THAT WE DO SEE HERE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND WE DO RISK ASSESSMENTS FOR ANY KIND OF PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT THAT COMES WITH THOSE.

COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IS ANOTHER BIG PART OF OUR PROGRAM. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MOSQUITO BREEDING. WHY DO WE TEST THEM? MOSQUITOES ARE THE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM. WEST NILE VIRUS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ENDEMIC HERE IN TEXAS AND HAS BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1999. IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, BUT WHEN WE GO OUT WE HAVE TRAPS ACROSS WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND ARE LOOKING OF EVIDENCE OF VIRUSES AND WHENEVER THEY TEST POSITIVE WE WILL CONDUCT MOSQUITO CONTROL USING MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, THE ENDGAME TO BE LIMITING HUMAN CASES BEFORE THEY HAPPEN. SO HERE'S A CYCLE OF WHAT WEST NILE VIRUS LOOKS LIKE IN NATURE. IT IS MAINTAINED BETWEEN MOSQUITOES AND BIRDS AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU ARE A HUMAN AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND BITTEN BY AN INFECTED MOSQUITO YOU CAN BECOME INFECTED. THE GOOD NEWS IS, MOST PEOPLE DO NOT GET SICK AT ALL. THE BAD NEWS IS, IF YOU ARE ELDERLY OR COMMUNITY IMMUNOCOMPROMISED YOU ARE AT HIGHER RISK FOR DEVELOPING FLULIKE SYMPTOMS THAT RESOLVE AFTER A WEEK, OR ON THE FAR END YOU CAN DEVELOP WEST NILE NEURO- INVASIVE DISEASE THAT IN 10% OF CASES IS DEADLY. THE GOOD NEWS IS, HUMANS DON'T PASS THIS BACK AND FORTH LIKE OTHER COMMUNICABLE DISEASES LIKE INFLUENZA OR COVID. USUALLY IT'S MEASURES LIKE BLOOD TRANSFUSION OR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS WERE OTHER HUMANS GET INFECTED BY HUMANS. HERE'S A LOOK AT ACTIVITIES SINCE 2012. THE ORANGE BAR IS HUMAN CASES, BLUE IS MOSQUITOES AND EQUINES ARE HORSES. 2012 THERE WAS A LARGE OUTBREAK IN DALLAS AND THAT'S WHAT SPURRED THE CREATION OF PROGRAMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN TEXAS. WE PILOTED THIS PROGRAM IN 2012, THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN AND SINCE THEN THE HEALTH DISTRICT ADOPTED IT AS A COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM AMONGST MEMBER CITIES. AS YOU CAN TELL WE SEE MOSQUITO ACTIVITY EVERY YEAR EXCEPT 2019 WHICH WAS A RATHER QUIET YEAR, BUT WE ALSO SEE HUMAN CASES ALMOST EVERY YEAR AS WELL. HERE'S A LOOK AT YOUR MAP OF HUTTO. HISTORICALLY WHEN I STARTED BACK IN 2019, WE PRIMARILY HAD ONE TRAP HERE.

HUTTO HAS GROWN A LOT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS SINCE I'VE

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WHENEVER THOSE TRAPS TEST POSITIVE AND WE CONDUCT ADULT MOSQUITO CONTROL, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE MOSQUITO CONTROL OCCURS. INTEGRATED MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT LIKE I SAID EARLIER , YOUR TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT IS. THE BIGGEST THING IS THE TOP FIVE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SURVEILLANCE WHICH IS THE BACKBONE OF THE PROGRAM. YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR EVERY YEAR AND GET A PHYSICAL AND SEE WHAT YOUR BROAD WORK LOOKS LIKE, I MONITOR MOSQUITO POPULATIONS. DO WE SEE NEW SPECIES? WHAT DISEASES DO THEY TRANSMIT? AND THEN AT THE VERY END MONITORING FOR PESTICIDE RESISTANCE. MOSQUITO CONTROL IS THE PIECE OF WHY I AM HERE GIVEN THE RECENT VIRUS ACTIVITY THAT'S NOT JUST WILLIAMSON COUNTY BUT A TEXAS THING. WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF WEST NILE VIRUS BUT WE HAVE MULTIPLE TOOLS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THAT IS TO CONTROL MOSQUITOES THAT SPEND THEIR ENTIRE LIFE IN WATER. PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS ANY MORE, BUT THAT IS WHAT IS USED TO CONTROL ADULT MOSQUITOES. KIND OF THE BACK END OF THIS, MOSQUITO CONTROL IS BASED ON ACTION THRESHOLDS AND NOT JUST WE GO OUT AND SPRAY BECAUSE IT'S TUESDAY. OR ONE RESIDENT SAYS I HAVE A BUNCH OF MOSQUITOES, CAN YOU SPRAY TONIGHT? AS A PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAM WE ARE NOT SET UP FOR NUISANCE MOSQUITO CONTROL AND FRANKLY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT MANY COMPLAINTS FROM FOLKS ACROSS THE COUNTY. THESE ACTION THRESHOLDS ARE MOST OFTEN BASED ON FINDING VIRUSES IN THE MOSQUITO POPULATION AND WE DO USE A CONTRACTOR FOR SPRING. MOST CITIES DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN MOSQUITO CONTROL EQUIPMENT SO WE USE A CONTRACTOR TO COME DO THAT FOR ADULT MOSQUITOES AND IN THE PAST, CITIES THEMSELVES WERE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CONTROL. THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THE HEALTH DISTRICT STARTED COVERING THAT COST FOR ADULT MOSQUITO CONTROL. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT A MAGIC NUMBER EACH YEAR SAYING JASON, YOU'VE GOT A BLANK CHECK TO DO MOSQUITO CONTROL. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION WHEN YOU SAY HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE EACH YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE REASON WE TALK ABOUT AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE WE'VE ESTABLISHED THIS WITH MEMBER CITIES WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. GOING FORWARD, THE HEALTH DISTRICT RUNS OUT OF MONEY FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL I WILL MAKE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON MOSQUITO SURVEILLANCE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE SHOULD SPRAY . AT THAT POINT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS ME TO CONTINUE COORDINATING THAT, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT FALLS ON THE CITY. IT WOULD JUST BE THE FINANCIAL COMPONENT. IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY ACCESS TO THE RATE THAT WE HAVE FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL WHICH IS ABOUT $1800 PERMISSION. $900 A NIGHT. THAT'S THE VERY HIGH LEVEL. I WANTED TO LEAVE IT OPEN TO QUESTIONS BUT THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE GREEN BAR IS THIS YEAR'S ACTIVITY, BLUE AND PINK OUR PREVIOUS YEARS. IT'S BEEN BUSY. A LITTLE BIT OF ARTIFICIAL INFLATION ON THE MORE POSITIVE THIS YEAR BECAUSE IN 2024 WE INCREASED TRAPS BY 40%. 2023 WE HAD 20 TRAPS RUNNING PER WEEK AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE 28. LAST YEAR HUTTO HAD TWO TRAPS AND THIS YEAR THEY HAD FOUR. LIKE JAKE HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE FOUND IT IN TWO LOCATIONS IN THE CITY BUT WE'VE HAD 30 ACROSS WILLIAMSON COUNTY, ONE HUMAN CASE OF WEST NILE VIRUS AND AS FAR AS MOSQUITO CONTROL WE'VE HAD EIGHT NIGHTS ACROSS 11 OF THOSE MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT AREAS. WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS

FROM COUNCIL? >> I THINK I HEARD THE ANSWER BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE INFECTED MOSQUITOES BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS A LOT OF THE RESULT OF TRAPPING AND TESTING MORE. WOULD THAT BE

SAFE TO SAY? >> WITH SURVEILLANCE IN GENERAL THE MORE YOU LOOK FOR IT THE MORE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT.

THE GOAL OF SURVEILLANCE IS TO IDENTIFY THE HOTSPOT WHERE WE ARE SEEING THE MOST VIRUS TO GUIDE WERE THAT MUCH MOSQUITO CONTROL IS GOING TO OCCUR. THAT'S WHY THOSE AREAS ARE VERY PREDEFINED SO WE ARE NOT GOING OUT AND SPRAYING THE WHOLE CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> JASON, TWO QUICK ONES. THERE'S A CERTAIN BUDGET THAT IS LIMITED. WHEN THE BUDGET RUNS OUT, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A POSITIVE, WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR COVERING THAT SPRAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT BUT THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HEALTH DISTRICT TO DO THAT. I DO HAVE

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>> YOU OPERATE ON A BOARD LIKE OTHER CITIES MAKING A PART OF THE BOARD, RIGHT? USING UP 50,000 AND THEN THE NEXT CITY THAT REQUESTS SERVICES HAVE TO PAY THAT EVERYBODY CHIPS IN.

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS LET'S SAY NEXT YEAR YOUR BUDGET IS CUT AND WE HAVE AN OUTBREAK. THE FIRST, WHATEVER, 10 CITIES GET IT FOR FREE AND THE REST OF THE CITIES ARE ON THE HOOK FOR EITHER I WILL PAY OR-- JUST AN IDEA. THE OTHER ONE, I USED TO LIVE ON THE EAST COAST AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN EAST COAST THING BUT I'VE SEEN IT IN OFTEN. EVEN IN SCOUTS WE USED TO MAKE PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE MADE BAT BOXES AND TOLD EVERYONE IT'S A BIG THING. WE SEE ALL THESE BATS AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR MY NUMBERS, I WAS READING HERE THAT AT-BAT CAN EAT 1000 INSECTS IN AN HOUR. I CAN'T SAY THE WORD,

I'VE DEMOLISHED IT? >> THIS STUFF IS ENTOMOLOGY SO

BUGS. >> IS THERE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF SPRAYING CHEMICALS DROPPED EVERYWHERE THAT THERE'S MAYBE NATURAL WAYS? I KNOW THAT IN AUSTIN, THE CONGRESS BRIDGE HAS BATS. WE'VE GOT A BRIDGE OVER 79.

TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO DO THAT WHERE WE CONTROL THE WHOLE

AREA. >> THAT'S WHERE THAT PEACE COMES IN. A LOT OF WHAT I PREACH IS GETTING AHEAD OF CONTROLLING ADULT MOSQUITOES BY TREATING LARVAL MOSQUITOES. THE LEAST CHEMICAL OPTION IS DUMPING STANDING WATER. THAT'S JUST A PHYSICAL THING THAT YOU DO. IN TERMS OF BATS , THEY WILL CERTAINLY EAT MOSQUITOES BUT I TELL FOLKS THAT IT'S LIKE IF YOU OR I GO TO A BUFFET AND WE CAN HAVE GRAINS OF RICE LITTLE BY LITTLE OR A STEAK, WE WILL PROBABLY PICK STEAK. SO WOULD BATS, THEY ABSOLUTELY EAT MOSQUITOES BUT IF A MOB FLIES BY THERE'S MORE NUTRITIONAL VALUE. MOSQUITOES ARE NOT MAINTAINING THE HUNGER OF BATS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>>> FOR COUNCIL I WAS ASKED TO MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND

[8.1 Conduct a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-042 Approving the Annexation of the Penske Annexation tract, 19.804 acres, more or less, of land located north of the northeast corner of US 79 and SH 130 and to Establish the Base Zoning of Commercial - General (B-2) District (Ashley Bailey)]

DISTRICT . >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION FOR THE THREE -- I'M SORRY THAT'S ONLY FOR TWO, 722 WAS ANNEXED IN 2021 SO THIS IS THE ANNEX FOR OUR CODE ENDING IN 895 AND OUR CODE ENDING IN 723. THIS IS JUST THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT TO HOLD A

PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE WILL OPEN OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:50 8 PM. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION? SEEING NO ONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:50 8 PM -- 7:58.

CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER-- I SHOULD ASK YOU. IS THERE ACTION WE SHOULD HAVE DONE? WHAT WOULD

YOU LIKE US TO DO? >> APPROVE IT.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE 8.1 AS PRESENTED?

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER GORDON? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON? I.

COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON? I. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. MAYOR SNYDER? I. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I. COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? I. COUNCIL MEMBER KOLAR? I.

[8.2 Continuation of a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-038 for the proposed Penske Planned Unit Development, 35.8 acres, more or less, of land, from Multi-Family and an original zoning to PUD at the time of annexation, located on the west side of Innovation Blvd (Ashley Bailey)]

>> SORRY, WE GET EXCITED ABOUT THE BUDGET COMING UP .

>> CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE O-2024-038, FOR THE PROPOSED PENSKE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 35.8 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND FROM

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>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THE MAP FOR THE 35.8 ACRES. IT LIES BETWEEN WHAT WOULD BE THE FRONTAGE ROADS OF STATE HIGHWAY 130 AND ALSO INNOVATION. IT HAS AN ANNEXATION DEVELOPED AGREEMENT AND THE REMAINING PORTION WAS ANNEXED IN 2021. IT WAS ZONE MULTI FAMILY AT THE TIME BUT THAT NEVER OCCURRED. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE, ESSENTIALLY, I WILL SAY NORTH IS GOING TO BE TO THE RIGHT AND OTHERWISE WE COULD NOT FIT THIS TO WHERE IT WAS VISIBLE ON THIS PAGE WHATSOEVER. WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT WAS THE EXTENSION OF SNYDER BOULEVARD AND THEN YOU SEE THE SEPARATE STAGES IN THE RETENTION POND ON THAT SIDE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD ALLOW FOR HIGHER INTENSITY OR AUTO - CENTRIC USES SO THIS MAKES SENSE AS A USE ON THIS MAIN CORRIDOR AND IS BOUND BY THE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY OF SCHNEIDER BOULEVARD AS WELL AS EASTERN WILLIAMSON COUNTY HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER TO THE NORTH. AN INTERESTING PART ON THAT ONE IS THAT IT IS STILL ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY, SO YOU WILL SEE IT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT IT ALSO HAS INDUSTRIAL ON THE EAST SIDE AND HAS NOT YET BEEN ANNEXED ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AGAIN, STATE HIGHWAY 130 ON THE WEST. THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE THE BASE ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR THOSE LARGE CLASS RENTAL ITEM SALES AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE REPAIR . THE LARGE CLASS ONE ITEM IS NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND COMMERCIAL ZONING WHICH IS WHY WE ARE SEEKING THE INDUSTRIAL BASE BUT IN YOUR PACKET , YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS AND ESSENTIALLY IT IS NOT DEVELOPING AS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT WAS JUST THE BEST ZONING FOR THIS. IN LIEU OF SECURITY FENCING WE WILL HAVE SOME OTHER DECORATIVE FENCING AROUND THAT DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE WERE AGREEABLE WITH AND THERE WILL BE ANCILLARY SECONDARY USAGES SUCH AS THE POTENTIAL FOR A FULL-SERVICE BODYSHOP. THEY CAN HAVE A CAR WASH AND A FUELING STATION BUT THOSE ARE LIMITED AND WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED WITH CAR DEALERSHIP USE SO WE CAN BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY SAY NEVER MIND. WE ARE ONLY GOING TO DO A

CARWASH. >> WOULD THE CAR WASH AND FUELING STATION BE FOR PUBLIC USE OR JUST FOR THEIR USE?

>> FOR THERE'S. THE REPAIR PROVISIONS WITHIN THAT PUD, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WOULD BE FOR SCRATCH AND DENT SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE REPAIR AS WELL AS GENERAL SERVICE WORK THAT IS TYPICAL WITH ANY SORT OF AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP. THERE IS THE ALLOWANCE FOR BODYSHOP, BUT YOU WILL SEE IN THE PUD THAT THOSE WILL BE ACTIVITIES LIKE ENGINE OVERHAULS LIKE SOME OF THE HEAVIER ITEMS WHICH WILL BE DONE COMPLETELY INSIDE THE BUILDING AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE, ANY VEHICLE WOULD BE STORED BEHIND IT. SO RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT'S A CAR DEALERSHIP BUT IF THEY GET TO THAT POINT THEY WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL SITE FEATURES THEY WILL HAVE TO ADD. STAFF NOTIFIED 32 OWNERS WITHIN 600' AND WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF THE TIME OF THE PUBLISHED PACKET AND THE PROPOSED PUD MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AS LISTED OUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE ONLY CONDITION THAT WAS APPLIED AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS TO ENSURE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DRAINING STUDY WOULD BE REMOVED AT THIS POINT. SO WITH STAFF, APPROVAL IS RECOMMENDED. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

>> THIS SAYS CONTINUATION SO I GUESS WE NEED TO ASK AND THEN CLOSE IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT. JUST IN CASE? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS.

>> I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE O-2024-038 AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON? I.

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[8.3 Continuation of a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-039 for the proposed Stromberg Planned Unit Development, 372.121 acres, more or less, of land, from Agricultural/Single-Family - Rural (SF-R) District to Planned Unit Development, located south of CR 132 (Ashley Bailey)]

COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? I. >> MOTION PASSES 7- 0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 8.3, CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2024-039 FOR THE PROPOSED STROMBERG PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT . 372.121 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL/SINGLE-FAMILY RURAL SF-R DISTRICT TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED SOUTH

OF COUNTY ROAD 132. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THIS PUD IS QUITE LARGE AND IS ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS OUT OF THE THOROUGHFARE MAPS AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE. THERE IS A PORTION JUST SOUTH OF THE EAST/WEST ROADWAY AND IS ALSO BOUND ON THE SOUTH BY THE FUTURE -- COUNTY HIGHWAY. IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF WHAT THE CITY REFERS TO AS THE MEGA SITE INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PART PARK AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY CAME THROUGH WITH A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT PRIOR TO BEING APPROVED IN DECEMBER 2022. WITH THAT WE HAVE TWO CLASSIFICATIONS. WE CAN USE THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A BASIS FOR THE PLAN FOR THAT COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD CLASSIFICATION AFTER THAT WAS DONE AND WE ALSO HAVE MORE ABILITY TO BE MORE CREATIVE. SO YOU WILL SEE YOU THERE WILL BE TWO DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS AND IT REALLY FUNCTIONS WELL WITHIN THE MARKET THAT IS EVER-CHANGING. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS IN YOUR PACKET. THE TWO SCENARIOS AND THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVIATIONS ARE VERY MINOR AND IT'S WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE WITH RESIDENTIAL PUD'S AS FAR AS VILLAGE STYLE OR HOUSEHOLD AND GETTING A LOT OF THAT HOUSING WE BEEN LOOKING FOR. IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY HEARTBURN OVER ANY OF THESE THINGS. I'M GETTING A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR PNC FOR THOSE DEVIATIONS. THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO WE WILL GET INTO IS ESSENTIALLY A SPLIT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. THIS IS MORE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT THEY HAD DONE . IT ALLOWS FOR, AGAIN, THE 10% STANDARD DENSITY CHANGES WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS BUT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THEM TO SAY OKAY WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THAT 10% OF NONRESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND GO STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ROADWAYS WHICH IS ALSO THE FIRST SLIDE THAT I SHOWED YOU. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY RESERVED THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE LOOP ON THE SOUTH SIDE BUT THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW THE COLLECTORS COME THROUGH AS WELL AS A NEW NORTH AND SOUTH ROADWAY THROUGH THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE 90% RESIDENTIAL AND 10% NONRESIDENTIAL, JUST THAT BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF THAT OBTAINABLE HOUSING WHICH IS WHAT WE BEEN LOOKING FOR . THE SECOND DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO IS MORE OF THAT 50/50 MIX. IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DEVIATION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HIGHER INTENSITY AS FAR AS ALLOWING FOR SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUT FROM THE TIME THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS DONE AND GROWTH IN THE MEGA SITE AREA, THIS REALLY DOES ATTAIN A LOT OF WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED WHILE BEING A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.

THIS ALSO SERVES EAST AND WEST AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE SAME ROADWAY PLANS. WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW FOR GETTING THAT 50 DENT-- THAT RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. IT STILL PROVIDES FOR A LOT IN THAT DEVELOPMENT ALONG AS -- AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL ALONG THE LOOP BUT ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL SO THAT ANY OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT COULD COME IN AS FAR AS A DATA CENTER OR ANY OTHER USES WE ARE GETTING , SOME OF OUR BIGGER MANUFACTURING AREAS ARE GOING TO BE SET BACK AT LEAST 120' FROM ANY ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DISTANCE. THIS IS ATTACHED TO

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CHILDREN TO BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE TRUCK WALK ABILITY AT THAT POINT. I'M GOING BACKWARDS, SORRY. I WILL GO FORWARDS AGAIN. WITH THIS, THE PUD DOES MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE LAID OUT AND WE NOTIFIED ABOUT 600' WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE IN FAVOR AND RECEIVED A RESPONSE THAT PEOPLE DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT COVERAGE AND IF IT IMPACTS OFF-SITE FOR WILDLIFE OR POTENTIAL FLOODING . IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT ANYBODY OFF-SITE. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT OFF-SITE. THOSE ARE THINGS WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AS PART OF PLANNING AND FURTHER DEVELOPMENT . WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND HAD TWO RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT. ONE IS THAT THE WORD WILL BE REPLACED WITH SHALL . IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT STRONGER LANGUAGE AND AGAIN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DRAINAGE STUDIES SHALL BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED PRIOR TO PRELIMINARY PLATS BASED ON THE SCENARIO CHOSEN.

SO IF THEY ARE CHOOSING SCENARIO ONE OR SCENARIO TWO, BASED ON THAT WE JUST NEED TO SEE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DRAINAGE STUDY. WITH THAT, IT IS PUBLIC HEARING I BELIEVE AND DEVELOPERS REPRESENTATIVE HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:12. P.M. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO

COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR ACTION. >> I HAD A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GIVE GUIDANCE MORE THAT WE PREFER VERSUS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FIX THAT? JUST ALLOWING MORE HOMES WITH COMMERCIAL-- WE KNOW PUTTING HOMES EVEN CLOSER TO A MEGA SITE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BUT A MORE TRANSITIONED AREA WHICH IS MORE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT. MY THOUGHT WAS, CAN WE MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY CAN ONLY DO MORE IN THAT SECOND DEVELOPMENT

SCENARIO ONLY? >> I WOULD THINK IT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND WE CAN HAVE THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE COME HERE. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED BOTH BECAUSE SCENARIO ONE WAS HOW THE CITY WAS DEVELOPING BUT SCENARIO TWO MAYBE HOW THE CITY IS DEVELOPING NOW THAT WE ARE 18 MONTHS PAST THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. CERTAINLY YOU CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST AND HAVE THAT

DISCUSSION . >> COULD WE HAVE HIM COME UP? I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT IS YOUR TRIGGER DECIDING BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO AND WHAT IS YOUR ANTICIPATION OF WHICH DIRECTION YOU THINK YOU WILL WANT TO GO?

>> MY NAME IS CRYSTAL HARRIS SO I AM ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, REPRESENTING THEM. IN THE SPIRIT OF THE TWO SCENARIOS, IT WAS ACTUALLY MENTIONED COMPLYING WITH THE FLUME AS IT PRESENTS TODAY , THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SCENARIO TWO , HAVING THAT FORWARD-LOOKING TRANSITIONAL OPPORTUNITY. AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DIRECTION FROM OUR CLIENT ON WHICH SCENARIO IS PREFERENTIAL. WE KIND OF WANTED TO SEE HOW THIS PROCESS WENT FIRST AND GET FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE. AND THEN FROM THERE

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>> WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PICK FOR YOU?

>> I'M SORRY? >> WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PICK

FOR YOU? >> WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE BOTH SCENARIOS BE APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF THE MARKET. THAT IS THE REQUEST FOR

APPROVAL OF BOTH SCENARIOS. >> MY THINKING WAS, I LIKED OPTION TWO BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING HAPPENING , EVERYTHING WITH THE MEGA SITE, EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH SAMSUNG. BUT ALSO I AM RELUCTANT TO BE TELLING YOU HOW TO DEVELOP SOMETHING, DICTATING SOMETHING THAT THE MARKET MAY NOT DRIVE TO THAT OR RESPOND TO THAT. IF YOU WANT MY PERSONAL OPINION I THINK TWO IS GREAT BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE UP HERE DICTATING THAT IF YOU NEED THE FLEXIBILITY AND FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO SAY HERE'S WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PIVOT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING AND HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO TO DEVELOP, I AM TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST ME.

>> DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS LAND IN, OR IS IT JUST PENDING WHEN Y'ALL GET

AROUND TO IT? >> WE WON'T BREAK GROUND UNTIL PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS. WE HAVE TO GET THE REST THROUGH -- GET TO THE REST OF OUR ENTITLEMENTS AND PRELIMINARY PLAT BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION OF THIS GETS APPROVED AND WE GET KICKED OFF ON A PRELIMINARY

PLAT WE WILL PROCEED. >> I'M KIND OF TORN. I DON'T REALLY CARE FOR PLAN ONE OR PLAN TWO BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S CITY COUNCIL'S JOB TO DIRECT PEOPLE HOW WE WANT OUR CITY DEVELOPED AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ORDINANCES AND QUITE FRANKLY WHY YOU ARE HERE WITH A PLAN. YOU ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCES TO OUR PROCESSES AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO, IN MY MIND DIRECT YOU OF HOW WE WANT TO SEE 300 ACRES DEVELOPED. I DO WISH YOU GUYS WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF WE DON'T PUT A DIRECTION, HALF OF US ARE GOING TO GET CRITICIZED FROM THE PUBLIC FOR MORE HOUSING AND HALF OF US WILL SAY WELL I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO PHASE I IF YOU DO PHASE 2. THAN THE PEOPLE WHO WANT PHASE I, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO PHASE I. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? FOR THE DEVELOPER IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO COME IN AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT AND FOR US TO GIVE IT TO THEM AND SAY WE WILL APPROVE YOU AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. NOT EVERYONE SEES IT THAT WAY BUT AGAIN I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EITHER ONE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE INSTEAD OF IN 18 MONTHS YOU MAY GET THIS OR YOU MAY GET THIS. THERE MAY BE AN IMPEDIMENT SO MAYBE OPTION THREE IN 18 MONTHS. SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I DON'T KNOW OF THAT NECESSARILY KILLS ANYTHING BUT I LIKE TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN

HUTTO. >> WE CAN WORK WITH ASHLEY TO OBVIOUSLY-- IS GOING TO COME BACK TO FRUITION RIGHT? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO BEFORE WE CAN GET PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL. IF AT THAT POINT THERE IS FURTHER COMMENTARY OR DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE THE MOST OPPORTUNE TIME TO MAKE WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL

REPRESENTED. >> ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS THAT WHICHEVER ONE, AND IF WE LET YOU EVEN HAVE THE FREEDOM, FUTURE -- NEEDS TO BE IN BOTH AND I DID NOT SEE THAT LISTED. THAT'S A NONSTARTER FOR ME ALREADY LEADING TO, THERE IS NONE IN MY MIND IF YOU ARE NOT HAVING THAT

IN BOTH OPTIONS. >> THERE IS CARL STERN EXTENSIONS IN BOTH SCENARIO ONE AND SCENARIO TWO. AND MY OTHER POINT, IF WE WENT WITH SCENARIO TWO AND THAT DOESN'T WORK THEY CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SCENARIO TWO SCENARIO 24 ORDINANCE NUMBER

O-2024-039. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. YOU SAID APPROVING SCENARIO TWO?

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>> WITH THE ADDITION OF -- THE RECOMMENDATIONS. OF WILL BEING REPLACED WITH SHELL AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DRAINAGE STUDY SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO PRELIMINARY-- PRIOR TO PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBMITTAL.

>> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> WITH THIS MOTION WE ARE SAYING NO TO SCENARIO ONE AND ONLY SCENARIO TWO, AND THEN IF THEY COME BACK LATER AND SAY SCENARIO TWO IS NOT GOING TO WORK THEY CAN COME BACK TO US

AGAIN? >> THAT WILL BE A COUNCIL. THEY

SAID 18 MONTHS, RIGHT? >> SOMETHING TELLS ME HE WANTS

SCENARIO ONE. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM SETH MERRICK, CEO OF -- ENGINEERING. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL CONSIDERING SCENARIO TWO. IT MAY BE WORTH PUTTING A TIMELINE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE SCENARIO 2 TO MARKET. LAND VALUES ARE CERTAINLY HIGHER FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE GOAL IS FOR THEM TO TAKE THIS TO THE MARKET AND SEE IF THE DEMAND IS THERE FOR THE PRODUCT THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN SCENARIO TWO. SCENARIO ONE IS SOMETHING OF A FALL BACK OPTION . WAY MAKER VENTURES WHO WAS THE DEVELOPER HAS TYPICALLY BEEN A SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPER AND IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE A WINDOW OF TIME TO BRING THIS TO THE MARKET BEFORE THEY PROCEED WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH SCENARIO ONE. AND AGAIN, IF THIS IS MARKETABLE THE LAND VALUES ARE CERTAINLY HIGHER FOR THIS VERSION IN SCENARIO TWO THAT YOU ARE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN

RIGHT NOW. >> PERSONALLY, I AM WITH COUNCILMEMBER CLARK AND TO ME THEY CAN ALWAYS COME BACK WE ARE FAIRLY REASONABLE PEOPLE SOME NIGHTS SO IF THERE'S A GOOD REASON, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T HOLD INTO INDUSTRIAL BUT I THINK THEY PROBABLY DID A LITTLE BIT OF DUE DILIGENCE, I WOULD HOPE. SO, YEAH. IT'S THE UNKNOWN THAT IS MOST BOTHERSOME FOR ME AND I KNOW THAT PUTS THE UNKNOWN ON THEM AND I GUESS THAT'S PART OF BEING A DEVELOPER. THEY GET THE UNKNOWN AND WE GET THE KNOWN TO TELL OUR PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. AND WE DON'T AGREE THAT MUCH, SO THIS IS NEW TERRITORY HERE. BUT ANYWAY.

DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> IT SOUNDS LIKE SCENARIO TWO WAS YOUR PRIMARY PLAN ANYWAY. SCENARIO ONE WAS THE FALL BACK LAND? AND I THINK NOTHING IN THE MOTION NOTHING -- WHAT YOU SAID. YOU TAKE IT TO THE MARKET AND SEE IF THERE'S AN APPETITE, IF NOT YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY WE TRIED AND WE JUST CAN'T DO IT AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER SCENARIO

ONE. UNDERSTOOD. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? I.

COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? I. MAYOR SNYDER? I. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? I. COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? I. MAYOR PRO TEM

[12. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

GORDON? I. >> MOTION PASSES 7- 0. NEXT WE GO TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. 12.1 THROUGH 12.18. ARE THERE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL?

>> I'D LIKE TO PULL 12.6, 12.8, AND 12.9. IF THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS TO PULL , I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SIX, EIGHT, AND NINE? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE

REMAINDER AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? I.

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I.

[12.6 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-184 to approve a revised Interlocal Agreement with Williamson County for the additional costs in the amount of $28,792 for the FM 3349 Bridge Beautification Project and directing staff to amend the budget. (Matt Rector)]

MAYOR SNYDER? I. >> MOTION PASSES, 7- 0 WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM 12.6. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION ARE - 2024 - 184 ARE - 2024 - 1842 APPROVE A REVISED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST IN THE AMOUNT OF $28,792 FOR THE FM 3349

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TO LOOK LIKE? >> THE LOGOS WITH THE LIGHTING ON THEM? DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE BUT WE CAN GET IT REAL QUICK. IT'S THE WELCOME TO HUTTO, THANKS FOR VISITING HUTTO, AND BASICALLY THE LOGOS WITH LIGHTING BUT IF SOMEONE COULD PULL UP THE GRAPHIC, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THIS BRINGS US UP TO ABOUT $84,000?

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. >> IF YOU DON'T PUT HUTTO ON THEIR, TAYLOR WILL PUT TAYLOR THERE?

>> TAYLOR HAS ALREADY ACCEPTED THIS AND IT WILL BE TAYLOR ON

THE BRIDGE, YES. >> ON BOTH SIDES?

>> YES. >> IT WILL HAVE WELCOME TO TAYLOR, THANKS FOR LEAVING TAYLOR ON THE BRIDGE.

>> DO THEY PAY $84,000? >> WE ARE SPLITTING IT DOWN THE

MIDDLE. >> THEY ARE PAINTING IT TAYLOR

AND LEAVING TAYLOR? >> WE ARE BOTH GETTING THE SAME THING. ONE IS VERSION HUTTO AND ONE IS VERSION TAYLOR?

>> IF WE DON'T PAY -- I THINK BEFORE, MAYBE I MISSED THIS A MINUTE AGO. IF WE DON'T DO IT TAYLOR IS GOING TO BE ON BOTH

SIDES. >> I'M SORRY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE OUR SIDE. I MEAN MAYBE THEY WOULD BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY VOTED TO DO SO FAR.

>> THEY COULD. IN THEORY THEY COULD COME BACK AND SAY --

>> IT COULD BE DUCKS AND GREEN. >> THE BIGGEST ROBBERY EVER.

>> MY QUESTION IS, WE ARE USING THE CITY OF HUTTO LOGO, IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT IS TAYLOR USING?

>> I THINK THEY ARE USING TAYLOR.

>> THEY ARE NOT USING THE DOC >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT USING THE DOCK BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THEY ARE

USING THE DOC. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A HIPPO THERE? I KNOW WE HAVE OUR

LOGO BUT-- >> I MEAN, COUNCIL, IF Y'ALL WANT A HIPPO IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THERE ARE WAYS TO GET TEXDOT TO AGREE TO ENTRY MONUMENT SIGNS. ANYTHING WE WOULD DO TO MESS WITH THIS WILL RESULT IN ANOTHER DELAY AND

ANOTHER CHANGE ORDER. >> UNDERSTAND. I DON'T REMEMBER

SEEING IT IS ALL. >> IT IS SUPER SIMPLE . WHEN YOU ARE HEADING WEST IT WILL SAY WELCOME TO HUTTO. IF YOU HAD EAST, IT WILL SAY THANKS FOR VISITING OR THANKS FOR

COMING. SOMETHING OF THE SORT. >> DO WE NEED TO DO A CMAR ON THIS? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY FEW MONTHS WE ARE BUMPING IT UP.

>> WE ARE PAYING THE COUNTY CONTRACTED TO DO THIS.

>> BECAUSE IT WAS $41,000 AND THEN WENT TO $51,000. IF WE DON'T GET THE BRIDGE BUILT OR THE SIGN PULLED UP WE WILL GET INTO SIX FIGURES.

>> ANTICIPATION IS KILLING ME.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> SECONDED. >> APPROVED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. I WANT TO VOTE FOR IT BUT I CAN'T SPEND $84,000 WITHOUT AT LEAST SEEING

A PEEK OF IT . >> IT'S IN THE EMAIL.

>> THE PRICE IS NOT GOING TO GO UP AGAIN, RIGHT?

>> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? >> NO GUARANTEES IN LIFE.

>> THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN THE WORLD OF CONSTRUCTION. I WOULDN'T HAVE EXPECTED IT TO GO UP TWICE AS IT IS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONTRACTOR NOW HAS THE BRIDGE SUPPORTS ACROSS AND INSTALLATION SHOULD BE FAIRLY IMMINENT. THAT I HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS PRETTY COMMON FOR THIS CONTRACTOR TO CONTINUE TO ADD CHANGE ORDERS.

>> WHICH ONE IS IT SO WE CAN REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES UP FOR

BIDDING? >> I DON'T WANT TO SAY AND GET IT WRONG SO I WILL FIND OUT FROM THE COUNTY AND SHARE IT.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY BECAUSE CHANGE ORDERS IS THE WAY THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES MAKE MONEY.

>> DO TEAMS PC. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE THE EMAIL?

>> TAKE YOUR LAPTOP AND-- >> THAT WILL WORK. OR JUST

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>> I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO-- AM AWARE SO TO THESE FOLKS.

>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A GRAPHIC? SO THERE YOU GO .

>> I DON'T LIKE THOSE TAYLOR ONES.

>> AT LEAST WE GOT AWAY FROM THE DUCKS.

>> WE CAN GO HIPPOS IF WE DON'T GO DUCKS.

>> CAN'T AFFORD ANOTHER CHANGE ORDER.

>> DON'T GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. AN OPPORTUNITY TO

CHANGE THEIR MIND. >> YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS TAYLOR . THAN ON THE FLIPSIDE YOU WILL SEE THANK YOU FOR VISITING

TAYLOR. >> AND LOAD THAT INTO THE TEAMS

FOLDER. >> AND THE LOGOS WILL HAVE

LIGHTS ON THEM. >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE LOGO BETWEEN NOW AND FOREVER WHEN THIS GOES UP, RIGHT? WERE GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR A WHILE?

>> IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. >> I REALLY LOOKED AT THE EMAIL

SO I AM GOOD. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I.

COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? I. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? I.

COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? I. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I MAYOR

[12.8 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-186 authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement with Yellowstone Landscape for City Mowing services in the amount of $358,361. (Rick Coronado)]

SNYDER? I. >> MOTION PASSES. NEXT WE HAVE 12.8. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION OF RESOLUTION R-2024-186 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPE FOR CITY MOWING SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT

OF $358,361. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RICK CORONADO, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE MOWING CONTRACT FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPING FOR THE AMOUNT OF $358,361 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS CONTRACT AND WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY LET OUT TWO YEARS AGO IS THAT WE HAVE ADDED FREQUENCY TO THIS CONTRACT AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL ACREAGE FOR THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. IT INCLUDES NOT ONLY RIGHT OF WAYS BUT MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. AND, SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE EASEMENTS , PONDS, FACILITIES SUCH AS PUBLIC WORKS , WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND SO FORTH. IN COMPARISON TO OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACT, THIS IS ABOUT $60,000 MORE. WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INCREASE IN FREQUENCY AND ACREAGE. WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANKS, RICK. ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO I THINK WE SWITCHED PLATFORMS. PLATFORMS THAT WE WERE GOING TO START DOING BIDDING ON. FOUR MONTHS AGO DIDN'T WE SWITCH? WE MADE A DIRECTION TO USE A DIFFERENT PLATFORM FOR BIDDING?

>> YES. THIS ONE WENT THROUGH, I BELIEVE -- THAT'S THE ONE THAT IT USED TO BE, CORRECT? THAT MADE ME WONDER, WE

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PFLUGERVILLE DOES IT AND WE DO IT AND THAT IS IT IN OUR AREA.

SO WE DIRECTED STAFF TO USE WHATEVER IT WAS. SO MY QUESTION IS , IF CITY COUNCIL SAYS IF WE USE CIVNET WHY DID YOU GET

BIDNET? >> I THINK WE GOT A TOTAL OF 11 BIDS THREE WERE DISQUALIFIED, SO WE HAD A VERY GOOD INTEREST EVEN PRIOR TO BIDDING. WE HAD A LIST OF VENDORS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THE SOLICITATION, SO WE KEPT THOSE LISTS AND I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 20 THAT WE SENT OUT DIRECTLY BUT I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER WHY THIS WAS DONE THROUGH BIDNET VERSUS SIVCAST.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH THE PURCHASING

SUPERVISOR. >> ALBERTA BARRETT , FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE USE BOTH. BIDNET WE USE FOR A LOT OF THE BIDS BUT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WE USE CIVCAST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION BIDS LOOK TO IS CIVCAST VERSUS BIDNET BUT WE DO USE BOTH.

>> I GET WHAT YOU GUYS USE BUT COUNCIL SAID TO USE BIDNET SO TO ME IT'S LIKE IF COUNCIL DIRECTS THIS IS THE WAY WE WANT TO GO, WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH SIDEWALKS THAT GOT BUILT OVER AT RAY ELEMENTARY. HERE'S ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE I SEE US HAVING AN ISSUE WITH ONE ORGANIZATION SO WE SAY GO THIS ROUTE OVER HERE AND THEN WE HAVE BIDS COME BACK AND IT'S LIKE WE DON'T EVEN EXIST. SO I'VE GOT THAT PROBLEM AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK OUT TO BID. IF 20 PEOPLE HAD INTEREST ON BIDNET, WHAT WOULD CIVCAST HAVE? THE OTHER PART IS, I THINK I SENT SOMETHING TO JAMES ON THIS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS ON THIS BECAUSE I READ THE BID AND THE DOCUMENTS WERE EXTREMELY CONFUSING. NOT ALL THERE. IT OPENED UP ON JULY 1. YOU'VE GOT TILL JULY 12 TO ASK QUESTIONS, SO 11 DAYS AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL TAKING QUESTIONS AFTER JULY 12 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO IN, THERE IS AN ADDENDUM ON JULY 19 AND THEN ANOTHER THAT SAYS BASED ON QUESTIONS-- SO PEOPLE ARE STILL ASKING QUESTIONS AND ADDENDUM'S ARE COMING OUT UNTIL NEAR THE WEEK FOR WE APPROVED IT . I THINK IT'S BECAUSE FROM A BIDDING STANDPOINT IT JUST WASN'T VERY CLEAN AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE IS, AND I AM JUST ASSUMING, IF A CONTRACTOR DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, THEY JUST START GUESSING AND THEY NEVER GUESS LOW, THEY GUESS HIGHER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BID ON A CONTRACT AND LOSE MONEY AND EVERYBODY'S DOING THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF 60,000 MORE FOR A BIGGER SCOPE OF WORK, I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT. I'VE GOT THAT CONCERN AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS DO WE STILL USE OUR MOWERS FOR ANYTHING?

>> FOR PUBLIC WORKS WE DO USE IT FOR A LOT OF OTHER SITES THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED IN THIS CONTRACT SO WE DO HAVE MOWERS FOR PUBLIC WORKS. PARKS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT AS

WELL . >> SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. UNTIL YOU GUYS USE CIVCAST AND I GUESS I SHOULDN'T TAKE IT AS BEING BLOWN OFF BUT I GUESS I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT . I GUESS CIVCAST IS FOR CONSTRUCTION BUT EVERY CITY IN COLORADO IS IN BIDNET . I THINK IT'S AWESOME PFLUGERVILLE AND SAN MARCOS. THERE'S 300 ORGANIZATIONS WHEN I WENT ON

THE WEBSITE . >> MAYOR I WILL SPEAK TO THIS IN THE SENSE THAT I DON'T RECALL THE DIRECTION BEING NOT TO USE CIVCAST AND IF THAT'S THE CASE WE DID MAKE A MISTAKE IN THIS REGARD. WE WILL GO BACK AND REVIEW AND ELIMINATE IT. I THOUGHT WE HAD ADDED TO CIVCAST TO THE PORTFOLIO BUT IF THE

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THAT EXCLUSIVELY , WE WILL . >> I THOUGHT IT WAS TO DO BOTH BECAUSE WE WANT AS MANY PEOPLE BIDDING AS POSSIBLE.

>> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD THAT. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE RFP IT WENT OUT TO BOTH SO IT WAS NOT BIDNET AND CIVCAST, IT WAS IN BOTH PUBLICATIONS.

>> I DIDN'T SEE BIDNET WHEN I READ IT . PARAGRAPH 2.2 ONLY HAS THE DIRECTORY LINK. ANYWAY, I'M STARTING TO REALLY READ THESE BECAUSE I'M HAMMERING PEOPLE SAYING HOW COME LOCAL PEOPLE ARE NOT HITTING ON THESE? HOW CAN WE HAVE POLICIES WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE-- I DON'T KNOW OF ITS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BUT FIRST LOOK OR WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY IS TO LOCALS, MINORITY CONTRACTORS-- LOCAL PREFERENCES. THEY ARE ALL SAYING WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS EXISTS. AND THEY'VE GOT 11 DAYS FROM THE DATE YOU SAY GO . THEY HAVE 11 DAYS TO FIND IT, SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS, AND THEN REST THEIR CASE AND PUT IN A BID. SO THEY ARE SAYING I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AND THAT'S WHY I AM STARTING TO REALLY SCRUTINIZE THIS BUT AGAIN IT'S A $300,000 CONTRACT NOTHING COMPARED TO THE $102

MILLION WE HAVE COMING UP. >> ON THAT NOTE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. EVERY BID THAT WE DO IS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE SO IF YOU ARE A LOCAL BUSINESS, EVERY WEEK YOU CAN OPEN UP THE CITY WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE RFPS AND SEE IF MAYBE BEING ON CIVCAST COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON -- BIDNET IS NOT YOUR DAILY THING.

BUT NUMBER TWO, ONE OF THE ITEMS IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE E PROCUREMENT SOFTWARE WHICH ALLOWS LOCAL BUSINESSES TO REGISTER , WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO BEFORE, REGISTER AND THE TYPE OF WORK THEY ARE INTERESTED IN AND WHENEVER WE PUBLISH THEY WILL GET NOTIFICATIONS THAT SOMETHING THAT MATCHES THEIR INTEREST HAS

BEEN PUBLISHED. >> THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

>> MAY NOT CUT THAT ONE, SIR. DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THAT COST.

QUESTIONS OR ACTION FOR THIS ITEM?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON ? DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? I. COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? I.

MAYOR SNYDER? NÉE. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? I. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? I.

[12.9 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-187 authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement with Grass Works Lawn Care LLC for Parks Mowing services in the amount of $193,311.51. (Jeff White)]

>> MOTION PASSES 6 - ONE. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 12.9 , CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPE FOR CITY MOWING SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF 958,300 -- FOR $193,311 AND 51. I'LL SAVE YOU THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME THING. BUT I DO HAVE TO QUESTION THE MOWERS BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH OVER THE YEARS. I REMEMBER WE HAD A COUPLE AND THEN WE WANTED TO PURCHASE A COUPLE MORE AND NOW THE QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE PURCHASING TWO MORE? THE REASON OR BECAUSE THESE ARE FUEL-EFFICIENT AND I WAS WANTING TO KNOW HOW MUCH FUEL CAN YOU SAY BEFORE YOU SPEND $90,000 ON MOWERS? THEN WE HAD TO BUY SPECIAL BLADES BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TRANSFER WEEDS TO THE PARK FOR THE A ONE. I WAS STRUGGLING ON THAT ONE BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF TWO DIFFERENT BLADES, BUT WE DID IT. LAST YEAR WE APPROVED $20,000 FOR SPECIALIZED WHEELS BECAUSE WHEN THERE WAS A BLOWOUT ON A TIRE YOU ARE DOWN FOR DAYS AND I WAS QUESTIONING HOW MANY TIRES WE WOULD BLOW OUT. AND NOW WE ARE THIRD PARTY ALL OF THEM. SO I'M WONDERING WHY DID WE PURCHASE ALL OF THOSE LAWNMOWERS? WHY DID WE WORRY ABOUT FUEL EFFICIENCY? WHY WORRY ABOUT IT IF AT THE END OF THE DAY WERE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT? WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO SAVE THAT MONEY OR PUT IT IN A

PLAYGROUND? >> A LOT OF LOADED QUESTIONS

THERE, MAYOR. >> IT'S ONE QUESTION. WHAT ARE

WE DOING? >> JEFF WHITE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. BACK IN 2019 WE PURCHASED MOWERS WHEN WE WERE MOWING INTERNALLY AND THEN DURING THE COVID PEAK THE

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STAFF TIME. >> SO WHAT ARE YOU MOWING? AS I READ THROUGH THIS I DON'T SEE ANY PARKLAND LEFT. THESE GUYS

ARE DOING ALL OF IT, RIGHT? >> INSIDE THE AMPHITHEATER, AROUND THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND HOME-- FIELDS AND THE REST OF THE STUFF IS UNDER THE CONTRACT.

>> DID ADDENDUM THREE NOT INCLUDE THE KICK BALL FIELDS?

>> NO, THEY DON'T MOW THAT. >> SO YOU GUYS MOW THE KICK BALL FIELD? KICK BALL FIELD --

>> THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND INSIDE THE AMPHITHEATER.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE 12.9 AS PRESENTED?

>> SECOND. >> DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? I. MAYOR SNYDER? NAY. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I . COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? I. COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? I. COUNCILMEMBER

[9.1 Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

PORTERFIELD? I. >> MOTION PASSES 6 - 1. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO ITEM 9.1, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.

>> THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET . WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO

PRESENT TONIGHT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

[10.1 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-178 calling and setting up a public hearing on September 5, 2024 at 7:00 PM and September 12, 2024, at 7:00 PM on the proposed tax rate for fiscal year 2024-2025 and determining the proposed tax rate to be included in the hearing notice and meeting, and providing an effective date (Alberta Barrett)]

>> MAYOR, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF .459347 , WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 14.965% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? >> 459347. 14.965% INCREASE.

>> SO NOT THE NUMBER THAT THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDED US

ORIGINALLY? >> ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE DIRECTOR. AFTER THE BUDGET WAS DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL , THERE WAS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE RATE. I SENT AN EMAIL DESCRIBING THAT DIFFERENCE IS A SLIGHT CHANGE SO THAT RATE IS 0.459347. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A $13,000 DIFFERENCE FROM THE

ORIGINAL RATE THAT WAS GIVEN. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. LAST THURSDAY THERE WAS A SPECIAL CALL CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND WHILE I RESPECT THE PLEDGE AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE SIGNED BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON, COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD AND MAYOR SNYDER, THIS WAS -- THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE BUDGET AND THE FUTURE OF HUTTO AND CLEARLY LAST THURSDAY, THAT DID STOP THE CONVERSATION BEFORE THE CONVERSATION EVEN STARTED ON THE BUDGET. RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE BEGINNING PHASES OF DISCUSSING THE BUDGET OF THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE FUTURE OF THE CITY AND AGAIN LIKE I SAID, I DO RESPECT THEIR PLEDGE TO THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE BUT IT BROUGHT A HALT TO THE CONVERSATION BEFORE IT EVEN STARTED. SO THIS AGENDA

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THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE AT THE TABLE DICTATING THE FUTURE OF HUTTO AND THIS AGENDA ITEM ALLOWS SEVEN ELECTED MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TO BE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. HOW THIS WORKS IS YOU SET IT HIGH AND WORK DOWN LOW. THE SEVEN MEMBERS I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU TO CUT THINGS IN THE BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN DECREASE THAT RATE. IT IS NOT A COMMITMENT TO THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE AND IS SIMPLY SETTING IT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND MOVE FORWARD AND HOW THE CONVERSATION AND MOVE FORWARD FOR THE RESIDENTS OF HUTTO, FOR THE CITY AND OPERATING THE CITY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> BEFORE WE MAKE THE VOTE THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR AND CLARK. I UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR LOWERING THE TAX RATE BUT THE APPROACH TAKEN LAST WEEK , IN MY OPINION WAS VERY SELFISH AND ONE-SIDED. THE THREE OF YOU INDICATED THAT -- YOU DO NOT WISH TO HEAR FROM, COLLABORATE WITH OR BRAINSTORM WITH US ABOUT THE PRESENTED BUDGET. THIS NOT ONLY ATTEMPTED TO SILENCE OUR VOICES BUT THOSE OF THE HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS WHO VOTED FOR US AND WHO WE REPRESENT. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION TO IMPROVE OUR CITY. WE ALL WON ELECTIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BY THE BOATS OF PEOPLE WHO CARED ENOUGH TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD. THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU THREE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD BE REPRESENTED IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE FUTURE OF THEIR CITY.

743 RESIDENTS VOTED FOR ME TO REPRESENT THEM. IT'S DISTURBING THAT BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU TOLD ME THAT MY THOUGHTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T MATTER. I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU THREE AS WELL AS THE OTHER THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL CITIZENS ARE HEARD IN THIS PROCESS FOR 24 - 25 .

>> ANY OTHER? >> YOU WANT ME TO GO AND THEN

YOU GO? >> EITHER WAY.

>> I WOULD SEE THIS. I APOLOGIZE IF YOU GUYS TOOK LAST WEEK AS NOT BEING PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I THINK WHAT LAST WEEK WAS, WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TELL YOU WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO THE GAMES YOU PLAYED LAST WEEK. ALL THIS TALK SOUNDS GREAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION BUT LAST YEAR YOU GUYS DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME OR COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. WE AGREED ON NO NEW REVENUE, THE BUDGET WAS PROPOSED, YOU GUYS MANIPULATED THINGS, YOU ABANDONED THE RULES, YOU HAD THE NUMBERS, YOU RAISED THE TAXES, YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT WHAT WE HAD TO SAY. ALWAYS SAID LAST WEEK WAS WE AREN'T RAISING TAXES. YOU STILL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. WE OPENED IT UP. DOES ANYONE WANT TO START WORKING ON THE BUDGET? BUT YOU DON'T COME PREPARED TO MEETINGS. YOU WEREN'T READY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE COULD CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET. THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM. YOU ARE TOO BUSY TO DIG IN. THE EASY BUTTON IS TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSED, LET'S APPROVE IT ALL. LAST YEAR YOU GUYS DID EVERYTHING THE CITY MANAGER WANTED AND SOME. ALL COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON AND I ASKED WAS CAN YOU CUT A FEW THINGS ARE WORK ON A FEW THINGS? YOU KEPT OUT VOTING US WHICH IS FINE. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, THE PEOPLE WANT US TO FIGURE IT OUT. THEY WANT YOU TO EARN YOUR PAYCHECK AND FOR ME TO EARN HIS. FOR JAMES TO EARN HIS, ALBERTA TO EARN HERS, THEY WANT TO DO IT AND MAINTAIN THE TAX RATE. THE TAX BILL THAT THEY HAVE. THEY DON'T WANT THE LAZINESS OF WILL I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, LET'S JUST APPROVE IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT PLACES TO GO. SO SORRY YOU FELT THAT WAY, WERE NOT GOING TO GO ABOVE NO NEW REVENUE SO INSTEAD OF FOCUSING YOUR ENERGY ON HOW TO RAISE TAXES YOU WANT TO FOCUS YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON WHERE CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO LOWER THE COST OF SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE? WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT?

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>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON HE WASN'T GOING TO TALK UNTIL I

SAID SOMETHING. >> THAT WAS A COMPLETE MISCHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT HAPPENED. LET ME REITERATE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO EITHER WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR WHO JUST LISTENED TO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID AND ACCEPTS IT AT FACE VALUE.

WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS THERE WAS A VOTE AT THE KNOWN REVENUE RATE. THERE WAS A RECONSIDERATION ON THAT DIRECTION, AND WE THEN SET IT AT THE MAXIMUM RATE SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION. IF THE FIVE OF US FROM LAST YEAR WERE REALLY THE POWER-HUNGRY PEOPLE WE ARE BEING ACCUSED OF, WHAT WE HAVE SET THE RATE AT? $.47 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MAX RATE WAS. WE SPENT HOURS UPON HOURS LISTENING TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON ASKING THEM WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CUT? WHAT IS AGREEABLE? I CUT A LOT OF STUFF OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT FRANKLY I THOUGHT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THERE BUT BECAUSE I WAS WILLING TO NEGOTIATE AND WORK WITH THE MAYOR, WORK WITH COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON I WAS WILLING TO GET IT DOWN TO AS LOW AS WHAT I FELT I COULD DO AND STILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO CONSTITUENTS , WE GOT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO $.42. THE RATE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WAS $.40. WE COULD'VE DONE 47. WE DID 42. SO TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE OTHER TWO, THAT THEY WERE SILENCED AND DIDN'T HAVE A SAY, THAT IS A BUNCH OF BALONEY. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

WATCH THE VIDEO. IF YOU WANT TO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO. THAT WILL SHOW YOU HOW MUCH TIME THE REST OF US DEDICATED AND SPENT AND SAID WHERE CAN WE CUT? I HAVE CONSTITUENTS, AS MANY AS THE MAYOR DOES, WHO SAY I AM WILLING TO PAY MORE IF I CAN GET THESE THINGS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE. I MOVED HERE TO HUTTO BECAUSE I WANT QUALITY OF LIFE AND NOT JUST ROADS. HOW MANY OF US WOULD LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IF ALL THEY HAD WAS STREETS? THEY DIDN'T PLANT IN THE GRASS, PLANT ANY TREES, DIDN'T PUT SIDEWALKS IN, YOU DON'T HAVE A SWIMMING POOL OR A PARK BUT YOU HAVE STREETS AND YOUR TOILET FLUSH. HOW MANY OF US WOULD LIVE IN THAT

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I TALK WITH JUST AS MANY PEOPLE AS THE MAYOR DOES WHO SAY THE SAME THING. I LISTENED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE HAD MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS WHO SAID I'M WILLING TO PAY A LITTLE MORE IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHAT I'M GETTING FOR IT THAN THOSE WHO SAID I WANT TO STICK TO IT. SO THIS NARRATIVE THAT EVERYONE WANTS NO NEW REVENUE AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE MOVING OUT OF HUTTO BECAUSE OF THE TAX RATE IS A FALSE NARRATIVE.

IT'S NOT TRUE. AND I ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO GO AND WATCH THE VIDEO FROM LAST YEAR. TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW MUCH WE COLLABORATED, BECAUSE WE DID.

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WANTED WAS TO INCREASE THE POLICE FUNDING WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE COULD NOT GET NO NEW REVENUE AND WE GOT TO $.42. IF YOU WATCH THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS HE CHAMPIONED WE HAD TO CUT EVEN MORE BECAUSE OF HIS EDITION. THE OTHER REASON WHEN HE SAID GAMES WERE PLAYED IT'S BECAUSE WE MADE A VOTE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE ADDED TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FEE TO THE UTILITY BILL AND I SAID IF WE DO THAT I'M WILLING TO BE AT KNOWN REVENUE. THEN WHEN WE CAME TO VOTE, THE MAYOR CHANGED HIS VOTE AND VOTED IT DOWN. HE PLAYED GAMES. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I SAID FROM DAY ONE, THE REASON I RAN IS BECAUSE NOTHING HAD BEEN BUILT AND HAD BEEN STOPPED .

THE MAYOR HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME? GUESS WHO WAS IN AND CONTROLLED COUNCIL AT THAT TIME? HE DID. NOTHING WAS BEING BUILT OR SUBMITTED. I SAID I WAS GOING TO GET ALL THE ROADS GOING. THAT HAPPEN. I SAID WE ARE GOING TO GET THE PARK BONDS. I ONE OF THE OLDEST RESIDENTS. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE 18 YEARS, MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER. I GOT THE SECOND HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN AND NEVER ONCE RAN AND SIGNED A PLEDGE OF NO NEW REVENUE SO CLEARLY YOU SAYING THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE WANTS IS NOT TRUE. WE HAD OUR ELECTION WERE COUNCIL PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN WHEN THE MAJORITY OR 50% OF THE VOTE. THEY GOT IN BECAUSE OF A TECHNICALITY BUT THEY WERE RUNNING ON A NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THE PERSON WHO WAS NOT RUNNING ON THAT HAD TWICE THEIR VOTE TOTALS. SO HEARING THE STATEMENTS ONLINE AND FROM YOU IS A MISCHARACTERIZATION. ON SATURDAY WE SAID THE MEETING WOULD BE CANCELED AND WE RESCHEDULED. I SAID IT THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE SET THE NEW DATE SO ANY NARRATIVE SAYING THAT I'M GONE I DID HAVE A PERSONAL MATTER AND TO TAKE CARE OF THAT I SAID THAT. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON COULD NOT DO THE WEEKEND AFTER SO THEY DECIDED TO KEEP IT FOR THE UPCOMING SATURDAY. BUT THE DATA THAT YOU GAVE OUT WAS FALSE AND OUT OF DATE FOR WHERE WE EVEN KNOW OUR OWN STUFF. YOU FIRED UP PEOPLE WITHIN FROM-- MISINFORMATION. YOU COUNTED PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY BUT YOU STILL PUT IT AS YOUR TOTAL NUMBERS. SO I LIKE HOW YOU INFLATE THINGS FOR YOUR BENEFIT UNTIL-- AND TELL HALF THE STORY. IT'S TRUE BUT ONLY FROM A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW AND IT DOESN'T GIVE THE HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE GOING TO SET A RATE SO WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION. HE'S RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE VOTES TO GO ABOVE NO NEW REVENUE. IF THINGS DON'T GET DONE YOU WILL KNOW WHY. AND WE WILL GIVE STAFF THE CHANCE TO SAY THESE ARE WHY WE THINK THESE ITEMS NEED TO BE IN THE BUDGET, THIS IS WHAT CITIZENS ARE GOING TO GET FROM IT AND THEY'VE SPENT MONTHS OF TIME WORKING ON THIS. THEY ARE NOT WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY. THEY ARE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN THE CITY AND THEY HEAR FROM PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. WE WANT TO GET THEM TO -- THE TIME TO PRESENT THE BUDGET AND AT THE END OF THAT IF THEY STILL WANT TO HOLD A PLEDGE OF A DOGMA OF, WELL WE ARE JUST NOT

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BUT THIS YEAR I'M HOPING WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE THE DISCUSSION SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE THE RATE ABOVE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT TALK . WE COULD BE AT NO NEW REVENUE BUT YOU DID SAY THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, MAYOR. THAT IS ALL I

HAVE. >> THAT LEAVES COUNCILMEMBER

THORNTON AND PORTERFIELD. >> I THINK ONE OF THE WORST HABITS THAT MOST OF THIS COUNCIL HAS IS TELLING OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHY THEY DID THE THINGS AND IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> >> I'D LIKE TO GO ROUND ONE.

>> I WILL CUT YOU OFF AT FIVE MINUTES IF YOU GET LONG LIKE I

DO. >> WE WILL GO WITH A LITTLE HISTORY. LAST YEAR I WAS ON THAT SIDE OF THE BENCH AND NO NEW REVENUE WAS PRESENTED, WHICH I WAS HAPPY ABOUT. YOU GUYS DECIDED TO RAISE MY TAXES $181 A MONTH. I DIDN'T DO ENOUGH SO I DECIDED TO RUN. I GUESS I ONLY REPRESENT 18.8% OF THE VOTE, COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE 18.8% HAVE TOLD ME THAT WE ARE IN TOUGH TIMES. IT'S NOT LAST YEAR, IS THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS NO NEW REVENUE. THIS YEAR IS WORK WITHIN OUR MEANS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO DO. I MEAN, THAT SUCKS. IT REALLY DOES. BUT IT'S NOT A TIME TO GET FRIVOLOUS OR A TIME TO WORK BACKWARDS. IT'S A TIME TO WORK FORWARDS AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN OUR MEANS. IF YOU ARE THERE IT WAS A CHURCH EVENT, NOT A BIRTHDAY PARTY.

ALSO I THINK THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF THREE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT I HAVE SAID OR HEARD FROM THAT ARE WILLING TO PAY MORE. AND THAT'S FINE. I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A FUND WE CAN BUILD AND OF THOSE PEOPLE WANT TO PAY MORE, LET THEM. BUT THE MAJORITY PEOPLE CAN'T. THEY JUST CAN'T. IT'S ALREADY TOUGH. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. ALTHOUGH I AM A LOT OF PEOPLE REMEMBER. IT MATTERS WHAT WE DO THIS YEAR INTO SAY WE NEED THESE THINGS, GREAT. I SAID SOME OF THESE WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR. BUT WHEN, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WAIT.

PEOPLE IN HUTTO THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER THAN ME FEEL LIKE THEY WAITED LONG ENOUGH AND THAT SUCKS, TOO. BUT IT'S NOT LAST YEAR, IT'S THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR I'M NOT RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET.

EVERY PENNY COUNTS AND IT STARTS WITH AN ATTITUDE. THE BUDGET THAT INVOLVES THIS BILLION, -- THIS BUILDING, I CUT OUT 5 MILLION. IT ADDS UP . BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT WHO ARE ALREADY SHORT ON FUNDS AND I'M JUST NOT GOING TO TAKE IT FROM THEM UNLESS THEY OVERWHELMINGLY TELL ME DIFFERENT, I AM NOT. THAT'S

WHERE I STAND. >> GOOD. ONLY THREE MINUTES.

>> SECOND RUN? >> LET ME GO IN AND TELL ME I'M WRONG. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DID WE CUT LAST YEAR? USE MY TIME.

>> THERE WAS $500,000 WORTH OF SIDEWALKS, COMMUNITY SIDEWALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK. THAT WAS 1 MILLION THAT WAS CUT IN HALF. IT WAS PART OF I THINK $750,000 , COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEES. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE CUT SO THAT WAS $1 MILLION. THE NO NEW REVENUE BUDGET WAS PROPOSED AND

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POSSIBLY TWO. >> I WILL SLOW YOU DOWN.

>> I WAS HOPING MAYOR PRO TEM WOULD SAY IT BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT'S POSITIVE. YEARS WITH THE BUDGET LAST YEAR SAID.

THIS BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT OF TO ME A 945,900 WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 17.9% INCREASE. THIS PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY, THE GROWTH, ADDED TO THE TAX ROLE FOR LAST YEAR WAS $2.256 MILLION. WE ADDED $2.45 MILLION IN NEW POSITIONS. THE GROWTH GAVE US $2.2 MILLION TO PLAY AROUND WITH. WE SPENT ALL OF THAT AND MORE AND ALL WE WERE ASKING IS TO LOOK AT THINGS. YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO READ THIS BECAUSE IT WON'T DO GOOD ON YOU COUNCILMEMBER CLARK BUT GO TO AUGUST 2023. I CAUGHT A LOT OF CRAP FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FEE. ONE OF MY ISSUES IS YOU ARE ALWAYS TELLING ME WHAT A FACT AND WHAT I DID IS BUT YOU COME THE LEAST PREPARED OUT OF ANYONE I'VE SEEN. YOU DON'T EVEN COME WITH A POST-IT NOTE. YOU COULD HAVE PRINTOUTS. THERE ARE THINGS I DON'T REMEMBER AND I GET IRRITATED BY THESE.

POSSIBLE ACTION AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 -2 028 - 058. CREATING A STREET MAINTENANCE FEE. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON MADE AN AMENDMENT TO ADOPT A RATE WITH A TWO-TIERED FEE STRUCTURE WITH PROPER NUMBERS. NOT YOU, MAYOR SNYDER SECONDED THAT. THE VOTE PASSED 4 - 3. KOLAR, THOMPSON AND WILL CUT VOTED AGAINST IT.

A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON AND SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON WHICH PASSED 4 - 3. THE REASON I DID NOT VOTE FOR IT AT THE VERY END, I SAID I WOULD VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE YOU WERE RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES BUT YOU RAISE PEOPLE'S TAXES AND ADDED FEES ON TOP OF THAT. BUT STICKING A KNIFE IN AND TWISTING IT AND I SAID I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. YOU LIKE TO STATE-- SAY STUFF BUT IN SIX

MONTHS-- >> MAYOR? CAN I ENTER-- DID I

INTERRUPT YOU? >> DID I?

>> NO. >> OKAY. I GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF LEFT. SO THE INCREASED POLICE FUNDING? EASY TO DO. ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS CUT OUT A STREET SWEEPER. WE HAD TWO OF THEM BUDGETED ORIGINALLY SO TO YOUR POINT WE DID GO FROM 2 TO 139 POSITIONS, WE COULD HAVE HIRED 37. THERE'S 24 STILL OPEN. I HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OPEN POSITIONS TO TAKE THE MONEY AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T MOVE IT ON SOMETHING ELSE. WE COULD HAVE CUT OUT SOME OF OUR TRIPS, SOME OF OUR FOOD EATING BUT WE WANTED SALT GRASS AND ALL THAT TO EAT AND YOU WANT TO DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE COPS SO DON'T BLAME THEM WHEN THEY GET MORE MONEY. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SPEND ANY TIME CUTTING OUT THE FAT AND THE POLICE GOT THERE RAISE. IF YOU REMEMBER HOW THE POLICE GOT IT, YOU HAMMERED ME ABOUT NOT SUPPORTING POLICE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE STUDY. I TEXTED CHIEF AND SAID GOING TO GET YOUR RAISE AND I SAID YOU GUYS SUPPORT THE POLICE SO MUCH? OKAY. MOTION TO INCREASE THEIR PAY AND AFTER YOU CREMATED ME FOR NOT WANTING TO BUDGET A STUDY TO BUILD A NEW POLICE STATION, YOU WERE FORCED TO VOTE THEM A PAY RAISE WHICH YOU HAD NEGLECTED TO DO FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. IF THIS IS HOW YOU WANTED TO START THE BUDGET PROCESS TONIGHT, JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET COMPROMISED BY MAKING

ACCUSATIONS. >> TO REITERATE THE INITIAL MOTION WAS BOTH OF YOU BUT THEN WHEN IT CAME TO THE VOTE YOU SWITCHED YOUR BOAT SO IT FAILED AND I SAID FINE WE CAN'T GO THROUGH NO NEW REVENUE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS TO HAVE ROAD MAINTENANCE FULLY FUNDED SO WHEN YOU THEN REVERSED YOUR MOTION, THE NEXT WEEK WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT BACK TO ACTUALLY VOTE FOR IT, THAT'S WHEN WE SAID FINE, WE CAN'T BE AT NO NEW REVENUE AND DANA AND MYSELF RECALLED OF THE ITEM AND CHANGED THE TAX RATE ONCE YOU MADE THE VOTE SO THAT WAS THE ORDER FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING YOU WERE TALKING

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ITEM AT SOME POINT. >> I WILL BE BRIEF. IN 2022 ONE MOST OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT ARE SITTING UP HERE DID OUR INTERVIEW WITH OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER JAMES EARP, HE AS A CANDIDATE FOR CITY MANAGER ASKED COUNCILMEMBERS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND WHAT DOES THE SUCCESS OF HUTTO LOOK LIKE IN THREE YEARS? THEN COUNCILMEMBER SUTTON SPOKE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC ISSUES , A GROWING COMMUNITY.

COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, VOTES.

WASTEWATER AND PLANNING . THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL INCREASES THAT ARE COMING. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR HIM THAT THE TAX BURDEN IS LOWERED ON RESIDENTS. HE DID SAY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE RATE BUT THE OVERALL TAX BILL. YOU CAN LOWER THE RATE AND RAISE THE TAX BILL. MAYOR SNYDER TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO HIM. FOCUSING ON LONG-TERM STABILITY. HE'S AFRAID OF THE LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. INFRASTRUCTURE IS A PRIORITY. HAVING A PLAN AND STICKING TO THE PLAN. A PURSE TO HIM THE TAX RATE IS IMPORTANT AS WELL AND THE STABILITY OF IT AS WELL.

COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON HE SAID IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE RATE BECAUSE TO ME, THE RATE HAD ALWAYS BEEN IMMATERIAL. IT'S WHAT ACTUAL DOLLARS OUT OF THE POCKET ARE. MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SAME CITY MANAGER AFTER THREE YEARS. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, I COULD GO ON. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE RATE, BUT THE BURDEN. AT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE AT 39.399 , CONTINUED ON, THE NEW NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS ACTUALLY A 5.65% INCREASE ABOVE LAST YEAR'S 42 INCREASE ABOVE LAST YEAR'S $.42 TAX RATE . SO THE RATE IS NOT LIKE COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON AND MAYOR SNYDER SET IN 2022. THE RATE DOES NOT LOWER YOUR TAXES. AS PROPOSED THIS YEAR IT WILL NOT DECREASE. FOR SOME IT MAY, NON-HOMESTEADERS, BUT FOR HOMESTEADERS, YOUR BILL WILL INCREASE 5.65% . ALSO, GOING TO-- I HAVE A NOTE. I WILL DISS -- DISCONTINUE MIGHT TIME BECAUSE I HAVE A NOTE BUT I CANNOT FIND IT NOW.

>> ARE WE READY TO VOTE? >> ON THE RATE NOT MATTERING, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES TO THAT AND THERE ARE MANY HOMES THAT PEOPLE WHERE IF YOU GO WITH THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, THE AVERAGE RAISE IS 14 OR 15% . BUT THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS IN HUTTO WHO HAVE SEEN THEIR TAXABLE VALUE GO UP 50%. THE CHANGE IN THE TAX RATE WITH 10% IS A 20% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES SO A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE OWNED THEIR HOME AND BOUGHT IT IN 2020. EARLIER ARE LOOKING AT A 20% INCREASE AT THE RATE THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED TO PUT IN THE NOTICE. NOT 15% . SO YES, IT IS TRUE THAT EVEN WITH A NO NEW

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>> YOU READY? >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE TALK ABOUT HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS AND ALL THAT BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN HUTTO AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE IMPACT , PROBABLY TO THE NEGATIVE IF WE RAISE ANYTHING AND I CAN TELL YOU NOW IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, IT SUCKS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. IT'S BAD. IT'S REAL TOUGH. IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTS AND HOMESTEADERS AND NON-HOMESTEADERS AND RENTERS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. WE HAVE TO LOOK WHAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE GETTING HIT WITH AS WELL.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> THE MOTION WAS ON THE TAX RATE ONLY. DO YOU WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION?

>> WHAT'S TO PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.

>> YOUR RESOLUTION DOES NOT HAVE SPACE FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE . TO INCLUDE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IN RESOLUTION NUMBER

2024 - 178. >> FOR THAT MOTION -- OKAY.

MOTION FOR THE TAX RATE TO BE INCLUDED IN RESOLUTION R-2024-178. AND OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> SCHEDULING . >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT

CHANGE? >> YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON? I. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? NAY.

COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR? I. COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? NAY.

COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON? I. MAYOR SNYDER? NAY.

[11.1 Consideration, discussion and possible action regarding the current year budget for a budget amendment relating to vacant positions.]

COUNCILMEMBER CLARK? I. >> MOTION PASSES 4 - 3. THAT BRINGS US UP TO ITEM 11.1, CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET FOR AN AMENDMENT RELATED TO VACANT POSITIONS. SO THIS IS IN LINE WITH , WE SAID 24 VACANCIES? SOME OF THEM WE PROJECTED TO BE IN COURT AT THREE AND QUARTER FOR. SO I WAS HOPING TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO SPEND AND EARMARK THAT AWAY. I'M TRYING TO GET THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A YES

ON HOW MUCH THAT IS? >> I THINK ALBERTO OR CHRISTINA COULD PROBABLY CALCULATE IT, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF WE DON'T SPEND IT, IT ROLLS INTO FUND BALANCE.

>> IT DOES. NOT TO PLAY FUNNY HERE , BUT ONCE IT IS IN A DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT WITH THE MONEY IN THAT DEPARTMENT, CORRECT?

>> NOT ANYTHING I WANT. THAT'S NOT TRUE. I CAN APPROVE BUDGET TRANSFERS WITHIN DEPARTMENTS AND THEN WE REPORT THAT TO COUNCIL AND THEN IF I NEED TO OR FEEL -- FILL THE REQUEST, AND THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING TO TRANSFER FROM DEPARTMENT TO

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DEPARTMENT-- >> THE QUESTION IS, ONCE IT IS FUNDED, YOU CAN MOVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE RIGHT?

>> I HAVE DISCRETION TO DO IT BUT DOES

>> I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE DOING IT OR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUT IT'S A PERSONAL THING. IF WE SAY YOU HAVE THREE POSITIONS AT $100,000 AND THEY WENT UNFILLED, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT $100,000 ANY WAY YOU SEE FIT IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND REPORT IT TO US?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> ALL I'M TRYING TO DO, MAYOR PRO TEM WOULD TELL ME I NEED TO STOP LIVING IN THE NIGHTMARE OF THE PAST BUT IF THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SPENT, NOT THAT YOU WOULD DO ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO GO AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, TO SAY I DID NOT SPEND THIS MONEY, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC FEELS GREAT ABOUT ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ALLOCATE THAT BECAUSE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YOU SPEND IT OR LOSE IT SO YOU SPEND IT ALL AT THE END. THEORETICALLY YOU COULD SPEND IT IN SIX WEEKS ON THE MONEY YOU SAVED IS NOT THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD DO THAT BUT I WOULD NOT BE DOING MY JOB IF I SAID THERE'S LIKE 1 MILLION SOMETHING DOLLARS IN UNUSED WAGES. LET'S PULL THAT BACK AND PUT INTO THE SIDE SO THAT THIS NEXT YEAR IN MAY BE A BUDGET THING BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU COULD GO OUT AND PURCHASE SOMETHING AND TELL US. I'VE ALWAYS SAID MANAGE THE CITY MANAGER MANAGING THE MONEY. TWO RESPONSIBILITIES. SO AGAIN. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, YOU DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR AND WE HAD UNUSED MONEY BUT I ALSO THINK THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF OUGHT TO BE GOING, AS WE DO THIS, GUYS, WE ARE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT. HERE'S MONEY. OR REMEMBER THAT PROJECT HE WANTED TO DO AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE CUT IT OUT? THE $500,000 SIDEWALK MONEY? WELL I DID NOT SPEND MONEY IN SUCH AND SUCH DEPARTMENT LIKE I THOUGHT I WOULD THANK YOU TO WHICH FREED UP MONEY. WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO GO BUILD SIDEWALKS? I'M HOPING EVENTUALLY WE RUN BUDGETS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I RUN IT IN MY FAMILY AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER THAT'S HOW WE RUN IT. IF YOU HAD A GREAT MONTH MAYBE YOU TREAT EVERYBODY TO LUNCH BUT IF YOU HAVE A BAD MONTH YOU START CUTTING BACK. I CAN CRITICIZE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS BUT SPENDING MANY QUICK IS NOT ONE OF THEM. I'M JUST SAYING, I JUST THINK AS A COUNCIL WE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF THE MONEY AND WE OUGHT TO HAVE -- I WANTED MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS AND WE SAID MAYBE WE'LL DO THAT

EVERY SIX MONTHS OR QUARTERLY. >> MAYOR A COUPLE OF THINGS. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DO. THE MECHANISM ROLLS INTO FUND BALANCE AND WHEN YOU ARE IN BUDGET PROCESS YOU HAVE FUND BALANCE MORE THAN YOUR 20% REQUIREMENT BY POLICY THAT YOU CAN THEN PROGRAM FOR A FIXED EXPENSE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THIS YEAR WE BROUGHT DOWN THE BALANCE DRAMATICALLY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAD AND THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO PLAY OUT THE WAY THAT IT DID NORMALLY BUT NORMALLY YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN 20% OR WHATEVER NUMBER OF SALARY SAVINGS WOULD ROLL INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND THAT WOULD BE ON YOUR PLATE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO THE ONE TIME EXPENSE WITH A MONTH LATER. THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS BUT THE MECHANISM FOR IT , IT TRANSFERS THE FUND BALANCE AND THEN GETS

REPROGRAMMED . >> ONE OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO SAY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING LIKE FOR THE POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS. INSTEAD OF FUNDING FOR IT, WE DID NOT BUDGET TO KEEP THE TAX RATE AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.

INSTEAD OF FUNDING THOSE SALARIES FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR WE BUDGETED FOR THEIR SALARY FOR ONE ON THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR. SO IF THEY ARE VACANT, THAT'S ONE OF SALARY. NOT, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING OVER HERE. WHEN WE SAID THESE WOULD BE FILLED IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST A BUDGETED A 30 DAY ONE MONTH SALARY, NOT 12 MONTHS OF SALARY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM CITIZENS AND PARKING IT AT A BIG SOMEWHERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING SO I THINK THAT WAS THE CLARIFICATION THAT IS MAYBE A MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISS THINKING OF HOW MUCH MONEY IT IS. IT IS NOT THAT MUCH BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE VACANCIES WERE PROGRAMMED TO BE CONSIDERED VACANT IN AUGUST. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO JUST SHOVE THE MONEY AWAY FOR 10 MONTHS AND SAY WELL

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>> YES. THERE ARE A LOT OF POSITIONS WE ONLY BUDGETED FOR PART OF THE YEAR END OF COUNCIL DESIRES TO MOVE THE SALARY SAVINGS AVAILABLE FROM THESE POSITIONS AND MOVE IT OVER INTO FUND BALANCE BY REDUCING THE BUDGET OF THAT DEPARTMENT, WHAT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY DO WOULD Y OF THESE POSITIONS START ON THE FIRST AND THE MONEY WILL MOVE TO FUND BALANCE ANYWAY AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, YES, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCRETION THAT A CITY MANAGER HAS, A LOT.

WHICH IS WHY I TRY HARD NOT TO ABUSE THE TRUST IN MY POSITION AND I WOULD EXPECT IF I CAME IN AND SET I PURCHASED THIS AWESOME THING WITH ALL OF THESE SALARY SAVINGS AND YOU GUYS WERE LIKE, THAT WAS A BAD IDEA, YOU WOULD BE HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I GOT IT. EITHER WAY IT WILL END UP IN THE BALANCE SO IT'S SIX OF ONE AND HALF DOZEN OF ANOTHER FOR ME. MANY VACANCIES ARE EITHER POSITIONS THAT HAVE BECOME VACANT WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHICH IS WHY WE SHARED THEM THE WAY THAT WE DID, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IS VACANT AND WHY, WHETHER IT'S THE UTILITY FUND OR GENERAL FUND WHICH IS A DIFFERENT UTILITY POOL, AND TO THE POSITIONS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY SCHEDULED TO START IN FOURTH QUARTER OR IN THE CASE OF PD, ONE DAY. THE RATIONALE TO REMIND EVERYONE IS THAT WE WERE GOING TO AUTHORIZE THEM FOR ONE DAY BECAUSE THE FTES WOULD BE APPROVED AND IF WE GOT TO THIS POINT OF THE YEAR AND THERE WERE SALARY SAVINGS IN PD AND THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND HIRE THEM IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER OR THE END OF AUGUST, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH SALARY SAVINGS. BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING THE SAME THING. IF YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FTES, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING BECAUSE THAT IN TURN AFFECTS THE FOLLOWING BUDGET. IF IT'S TAKE SALARY SAVINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND DON'T HIRE ANYONE THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE A JOB OFFER BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER, THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION ON MY PART. YOU SAID, SAY WE MOVED THINGS AROUND AND IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT YOU SAID WE WOULD REALIZE THAT UNTIL WE DID THE BUDGET . SO IT'S ANNUALLY WE WOULD REALIZE THAT UNLESS YOU BROUGHT IT TO US FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC?

>> WHAT THE MAYOR IS TRYING TO SAY IS WE ARE GETTING TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'VE GOT SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT.

THAT'S MONEY WE ARE NOT PAYING RIGHT NOW BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE BANK OR ON THE BOOKS. IT'S ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT WE START TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO ROLL OVER INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGET. SO I TELL Y'ALL WHAT WE ARE THINKING WE ARE GOING TO ADD TO THE BALANCE BASED ON HOW THE YEAR PLAYED OUT. AND THEN WITH THE FUND BALANCE, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL FUND COUNCILMEMBER BECAUSE THE UTILITY FUND HAS A DIFFERENT RULE, BUT THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, THE CHARTER REQUIRES A 10% THAT WE HOLD, 10% OF OUR EXPENSES AS AN EMERGENCY RESERVE. 10%. COUNCIL HAS SET AN INTERNAL POLICY FOR THAT TO BE 20%. SO WHAT WE DO THEN, IS WE SHOW YOU HERE ARE THE EXPENSES, 20% OF THAT NUMBER IS HELD IN THE BANK FOR THE EMERGENCY FUND BY COUNCIL POLICY AND EVERYTHING OVER THAT IS FREE TO BE PROGRAMMED.

WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS OR NOT IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. DOES THAT AT ALL

ANSWER? >> I WON'T WORRY ANY MORE ABOUT ITEM-- I MADE IT A POINT WHEN WE START GETTING PEOPLE FILLING FACTS, IF I GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AND I FIND $1 MILLION IN RATE WAGES WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO RESPECTFULLY SAY IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO DEBATE AN ITEM WHEN PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TALK FACTS. SO I WON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW MY EXPECTATION. NOT THAT IT MATTERS BECAUSE COUNCIL COULD VOTE ANOTHER WAY BUT IF SOMETHING CHANGES AND SAVINGS ARE NOT THERE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WE ARE 1 MILLION - 100 MILLION -- 1 MILLION TO 1,000,000 1/2 SO I'M NOT COUNTABLE SITTING IN THAT RESERVE, WITHIN A MONTH . WE SET UP HERE ONCE AND WE ASKED

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IT'S GOING TO BE FINE. NOW WE ARE 2 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE. FOUR MONTHS LATER WE LAID OFF 48 PEOPLE. WE WERE ASKING THE QUESTIONS FOR BEING TOLD DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE'VE GOT IT. NOT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL, BUT WE MADE THE MISTAKE ONCE BEFORE, WE ARE SHORT ON INCOME AND I DON'T SEE ANY CATEGORIES THAT MAKE UP FOR IT. I KNOW THE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAYS THE SAVINGS WERE THERE FOR A DAY AND I GET THAT. I KNOW WHY WE DID THAT. WE ARE TALKING 24 OPEN POSITIONS, BUT LIKE I SAID. I DON'T CARE IF WE DON'T DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT. WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET AND THINK WE ARE WOUND UP AND READY TO GO FOR THAT

[11.2 Review and possible action on the Fiscal Year 2025 proposed budget.]

2025 PROPOSED BUDGET. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, JAMES EARP, CITY MANAGER. GENERALLY WHAT WE DO AT THIS STAGE OF THE BUDGET IS THE DEPARTMENT'S PRESENT WHAT WAS IN THEIR BUDGET AND WHY THEY ASKED FOR WHAT THEY ASKED FOR AND WHY THEY THINK THEY NEED WHAT THEY NEED. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S BEEN A Q&A BACK AND FORTH . LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID IT THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF Q&A. IT WAS MOSTLY PRESENTATION AND THE QUESTIONS CAME NEXT, BUT EVERYONE THAT IS HERE IS READY TO BE ABLE TO FIELD QUESTIONS SHOULD THEY BE RAISED. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO WE CAN TRY TO GET STARTED SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE BY 5:00 A.M. I'M GOING TO COVER THE ORGANIZATIONWIDE ITEMS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE BUDGET. EVERYTHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WAS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND CAME TO COUNCIL AND WAS DELIVERED AT THE END OF JULY AND WAS PUBLISHED. THE MAIN ITEMS THAT GO ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS IMPROVING THE ORGANIZATION WERE TO LOOK AT STEP PLAN CLASSIFICATION BESIDES JUST IN THE PD, TO LOOK AT REWARDING PEOPLE WHO ARE GAINING ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATIONS AND WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PERFORM OTHER TYPES OF WORK THEN THEY COULD WITHOUT THE OTHER CERTIFICATIONS. TO ALLOW FOR LATERAL TRANSFERS. WE CURRENTLY DO THAT IN PD AND THAT MEANS RECOGNIZING PEOPLE'S TENURE WHENEVER THEY COME TO WORK HERE. AND THEN, FOCUSING ON LONGEVITY FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. THERE'S ALREADY A MECHANISM TO PAY THEM A SMALL STIPEND PER MONTH THAT THEY'VE WORKED HERE AND MULTIPLY IT BY THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THEY'VE WORKED HERE AND THERE IS A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD INCREASE THAT AMOUNT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT AFFECT THE ORGANIZATION. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMMUNITYWIDE BUT THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO CALL UP KATE MORIARTY THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. SORRY, THAT'S MY OLD TITLE FROM 30 YEARS AGO . SO THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME TO PRESENT ON A BUDGET. SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE CITY MANAGER BUDGET AND I WILL BE HERE AS HER WING MAN SHOULD SHE NEEDED. PLEASE TAKE THE FLOOR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KATE MORIARTY AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED. THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU IS INCLUSIVE OF SEVERAL STAFF ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES THAT ARE NEW AND CONTINUED FROM PRIOR FISCAL YEARS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. SPECIFICALLY NEW TO THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET , FIRSTLY IS THE VETERANS FELLOWSHIP. THIS IS A LINK BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE THAT HELPS TRANSITIONING VETERANS AND THEN LASTLY, THE DEMOGRAPHER WOULD BE A NEW SERVICE. WE ARE CURRENTLY RESUMING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE ACTING SUPERINTENDENT HAD INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO POTENTIALLY SHARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE AS WE REQUESTED INFORMATION FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER THAT THEY USE, AS WELL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. >> SO FAR, SO GOOD.

>> FOR THE DEMOGRAPHER , WHAT IS THE PRICE TAG ON THAT?

>> WE BUDGETED THAT-- I'M SORRY.

>> IT'S KIND OF SLOW RIGHT NOW. THAT IS BUDGETED FOR 45,000 AND I DO BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY $40,000, SO CURRENTLY THAT IS THE PRICE TAG . AS I MENTIONED WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE

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>> AND THEN THE VETERANS FELLOWSHIP , THAT IS AT $20,000? IS THAT CORRECT? I GUESS, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THE VETERANS FELLOWSHIP AND WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THE VALUE ADD?

>> THE FELLOWSHIP IS DONE THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION. AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE RUNS WHICH I BELIEVE IS CALLED THE SCALE BRIDGE PROGRAM. IT'S A 12 - 15 WEEK PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW A TRANSITIONING VETERAN TO COME INTO A CITY, RECEIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE, AND WHATEVER COMES AFTER, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE AN ARRAY OF DIFFERENT CITY SERVICES WHILE HERE.

>> 15 WEEKS? PERFECT. >> IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO JUST LEVERAGE THE DEMOGRAPHER THAT THEY USE.

WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF REASONING BEHIND HAVING OUR OWN

DEMOGRAPHER? >> I THINK BECAUSE WE MAY BE LOOKING FOR MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION IN TERMS OF HOUSING. AS I MENTIONED, THIS WOULD INCLUDE SINGLE AND MULTI FAMILY TRACKING. WE WOULD NOT BE GENERALLY REFERENCING ESTIMATED NUMBERS WITHIN THE CITY WHILE SIDE MEAL SIMULTANEOUSLY REFERENCING NUMBERS THAT THE ISD HAS. IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO CITY BUILDING PATTERNS, SPECIFIC TO CITY LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES. I BELIEVE THE DEMOGRAPHER INFORMATION THAT THE ISD HAS IS SPECIFIC TO THEIR BOUNDARIES AND THAT WOULD VERY A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF NUMBERS.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> THIS IS WING MAN TIME. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT TRACK THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH PATTERNS THE SAME WAY THAT WE WOULD NEED THEM TO BE TRACKED. THEY DO CARE ABOUT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH PATTERNS BECAUSE THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THERE ATTENDANCE ZONES FOR DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. BUT THE REASON BEHIND THE DEMOGRAPHER TO BE CLEAR, IS TO MAKE PROJECTIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPACT FEE GENERATION. PERMIT FEE GENERATION. THE CCN AND USAGE FOR THE VARIOUS WALKER CAPACITIES. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE DEMOGRAPHER IS TO TAKE AWAY THE GUESSING GAME OF US TRYING TO GUESS WHAT WE THINK IT IS AND ACTUALLY USE SCIENCE IN ITS PLACE. PARTNERING WITH THE SCHOOL DOES NOT MEAN GETTING THEIR INFORMATION FOR FREE. IT MEANS WE MAY GET A DISCOUNT ON WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHER CHARGES US BECAUSE WE ARE EITHER GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ENHANCE THEIR SERVICE TO INCLUDE THIS OTHER DATA, OR THE DEMOGRAPHER ALREADY HAS THE DATA WHICH IS A LOT OF THE SAME DATA WE NEED AND WOULD DISCOUNT THE PRICE TO US IF WE USED THE SAME DEMOGRAPHER THAT THE SCHOOL HAS. IF WE USE OUR OWN THAT IS NOT TIED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT ALL AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL VIEW OF THE DATA POINTS IN THE SENSE OF MAYBE THAT DEMOGRAPHER DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE OTHER DEMOGRAPHER AND NOW YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF COMPARISON TO CONSIDER AND DO. BUT WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS TO SAY HOW MANY HOUSES WE WILL BUILD IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT CCN THAT WILL CONNECT TO THAT WATER LINE OR SEWER LINE SO THAT OUR PROJECTIONS WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET AND GET INTO IMPACT ON THE TAXPAYERS OR IMPACT ON RATEPAYERS, IT BECOMES MORE SCIENTIFIC AND A LOT LESS GUESSWORK.

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU GOING, LAURA?

>> I CAN. CITY COUNCIL, CITY SECRETARY AND YOU CAN HIT LEGAL

BECAUSE SHE HAS INFORMATION. >> THE PROPOSED ADD-ONS IS FOR INCREASED FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO DO TO INCREASE REVENUE, THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE FOR NONPROFIT SUPPORT IS INCREASED A BIT, AS WELL.

>> OKAY TO MOVE ON? >> JUST KEEP GOING UNTIL--

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>> FAIR. I JUST DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN.

>> WE LIKE TO INTERRUPT SO. >> I DO HAVE, I GUESS, A PROCESS QUESTION. WITH THE NONPROFIT SUPPORT, WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE AND AT WITH THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT WE END AT, IMPACT TO THAT NONPROFIT SUPPORT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? DOES THE NOMINATION COMMITTEE-- NOT THAT, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING COMMITTEE . DO THEY NEED TO MEET AND REAPPROPRIATE THE DOLLARS BASED OFF OF THE NEW

1%? >> THE POLICY SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THAT. SO Y'ALL CAN DECIDE AMONGST YOURSELVES TO SEND IT BACK TO THE, IS IT THREE? TO SEND IT BACK IN FOR THEM TO MAKE A NEW RECOMMENDATION. OR, NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THE VARIOUS POINTS, YOU ALL CAN VOTE TO MAKE THE CHANGES ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AS A PART OF THE BUDGET. THE MAIN THING IS, THE 1% WILL SLIDE DOWN AS THE TAX RATE COMES DOWN AND THEN SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AND REQUESTS ARE FIXED REQUESTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. THE COMMITTEE KIND OF KNOWS THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN THE ONES LIKE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND I MAY BE GETTING THIS WRONG, BUT THE HEALTH SERVICE DISTRICT WE HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT. THAT IS A FIXED ONE THAT GETS FUNDED SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DECREASE THE 1% A LOT, THEY ARE GOING TO GET FUNDED BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE POLICY IS SET UP. BUT THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES LIKE THE LOCAL NONPROFITS ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO HAVE THEIR NUMBERS DECREASED IN ORDER TO MATCH THE 1%. THE ONE PERCENT OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE.

>> I HAVE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. SO WHAT IS BEING ADDED OR PROPOSED TO BE ADDED IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS NOT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AS FAR AS SUPPORT TO NONPROFITS?

>> IT'S THE INCREASED AMOUNT THAT IS AVAILABLE.

>> THE RECOMMENDED TAX RATE IS HIGHER AND THEREFORE THERE'S

MORE MONEY AVAILABLE? >> ANTICIPATED REVENUES WOULD BE INCREASED AND THEREFORE MORE MONEY AVAILABLE.

>> ARGUABLY I THINK YOU MAY HAVE CHANGED SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE GOTTEN FUNDING LAST YEAR. ARGUABLY THERE COULD BE SOME SLOT CHANGES ABOUT WHO THE RECOMMENDED DOLLARS WERE TO GO TO BUY THAT COMMITTEE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE VALUE ADD IS THE INCREASED SUPPORT FOR NONPROFITS.

>> LAURA HALLMARK CITY SECRETARY. FOR THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, WE SUPPORT -- OUR FUNCTIONS SUPPORT THEIR A STRATEGIC PILLAR OF COLLABORATION FOR OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND EFFICIENCY AND THROUGH THAT, WE ARE PROPOSING THE IRON MOUNTAIN OFF-SITE DOCUMENT STORAGE TO SUPPORT OUR

RECORDS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS? DOCUMENT STORAGE AND AT THE HIGH LEVEL? YOU DON'T HAVE TO

GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS. >> CURRENTLY BOXES AND FILES ARE STORED HERE AT THIS CITY. THIS WOULD BE STORING BOXES AND FILES AT AN OFF-SITE LOCATION.

>> LET ME ADD TO THAT. WE DO USE LASER FISH, WE DO IS SCAN A MULTITUDE OF THINGS BUT THERE ARE PHYSICAL COPIES OF ITEMS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED AND OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, AND WHEN CITY HALL WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT, IT WAS NOT REALLY ANTICIPATED FOR A GOOD APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PAPER STORAGE THAT WAS NECESSARY.

WHAT IRON MOUNTAIN ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO INDEX THEM. WHATEVER IS INSIDE THAT BOX YOU CAN INDEX IT AND PUT ON THE BOX WHICH IS WHAT THEY WOULD DO IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT, THIS CAN BE DESTROYED IN SEVEN YEARS. THEN YOU INDEX IT AND SHIP IT OFF FOR OFF-SITE STORAGE. SO IT'S NOT HERE LEANING OVER IN A CLOSET. AND IF YOU CAN RECALL A DOCUMENT YOU CAN FIND THE BOX AND REQUEST IT AND AT THE END OF SEVEN YEARS THE AUTOMATIC FLAG FOR DESTRUCTION IS TRIGGERED AND THEY ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO DESTROY THE DOCUMENTS THAT

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>> COMMUNICATIONS? >> SHAYNA YOUNG COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER . HI, Y'ALL. I HAVE A FEW ASKS AND IT'S MOSTLY REALLOCATIONS IF YOU GUYS REVIEWED MY BUDGET. THE FEW DIFFERENT ASKS ARE MOSTLY SOFTWARE-BASED MOVING IN THE DIGITAL AGE SINCE THE MEETING AGE IS 35. MOST OF US ARE ONLINE AND THE FIRST ONE YOU SEE IS HUD SUITE SOFTWARE MANAGEMENT. YOU WILL NOTICE WE HAVE A SOFTWARE DEDUCTION.

THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR DIGITAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE USED IN COLLABORATION FOR OUR SURVEY SO WHENEVER WE PUT OUT OUR SURVEY SOFTWARE, WE PORTIONED THAT AND HAVE REDUCED THE COST SIGNIFICANTLY . HUD SUITE IS FAR MORE ADVANCED IN THIS SOFTWARE SO WE ARE ACTUALLY JUST TRANSFERRING THAT COST AND REQUESTING THE TRANSFER OF THAT COST. IT'S BETTER AT SOCIAL MEDIA MONITORING AND WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO GIVE ADMINISTRATIVE USE TO THE MANY USERS FOR SOCIAL MEDIA . PARKS, POLICE, LIBRARY AND THE CITY COMMUNICATION PAGES AS WELL. FOR BROADCASTING APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW WHENEVER YOU WANT TO STREAM THESE MEETINGS YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH THE WEBSITE BUT WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR A LOW-COST WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ON YOUR TV JUST LIKE YOUR SMART TV APPLICATIONS WERE YOU CAN HAVE YOUTUBE AND ALL THAT . IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN APPLICATION SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBILITY FOR YOUR PHONE, YOUR SMART TVS AND HELP US BE ABLE TO BE ON THE GO. JUST LIKE YOU CAN CALL INTO A ZOO MEETING, RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO LISTEN INTO THE MEETINGS AS WELL. NEXT IS THE COMMUNITY CALENDAR SO THE CALENDAR ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW IS SUFFICIENT THAT THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO NOT ONLY ENHANCE THE AESTHETICS BUT ALSO OPTIMIZE THE SEARCH ENGINE WITH BETTER OPTIMIZATION OF OUR SEARCH , AND ALLOW THE OPTION FOR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN EVENTS . IF WE WANTED TO OPEN UP TO THE IST BOY SCOUTS, ROTARY CLUB, THE CHAMBER, THEY COULD SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY AND WE COULD HAVE AN APPROVAL PROCESS AND POLICY IN PLACE ON WHAT EVENTS COULD BE APPROVED ON THE CALENDAR.

THE BEST PART ABOUT THE CALENDAR IS ACTUALLY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT ALL DEMOGRAPHIC DATA. PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO OPT IN AND PUT IN IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPT IN FOR ALERTS. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEGMENT AND KEEP ALL THAT DATA AND SEND OUT REMINDERS VIA TEXT AND EMAIL AND HAVE BASICALLY A ROLODEX OF RESIDENCE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON FACEBOOK MAILERS AND OTHER THINGS. KIND OF, SKIP THE ALGORITHM AND HAVE OUR OWN DATABASE. IF WE EVER CANCELED, WE STILL GET TO KEEP OUR DATABASE. FINALLY WE HAVE ADVERTISING DOLLARS. WE TOOK OUR LINE ITEMS FOR RENT ADVERTISING THAT WE HAVE SPENT AND MARKET SIGNAGE THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED AND WE TOOK 75% OF EACH OF THOSE LINE ITEMS AND PUT IT TOWARDS DIGITAL AD SPEND. LAST WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL MULTIMEDIA SPECIALIST. EVERYONE HAS REALLY BEEN ENJOYING THE WORK OF OUR PHOTOS AND VIDEOS AND WE SIMPLY CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND AS ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE GROWING SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER TO CONTINUE TO GROW ALONG WITH

THE REST OF THE CITY. >> WHEN I SEE THE LINE ITEM, THAT'S -- THEY ARE COMING AT .58% BELOW WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR OR IS THAT FTE NOT INCLUDED?

>> I'M SORRY COUNCILMEMBER-- >> IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, YES.

>> I CAN PULL IT UP AND LOOK BUT IF IT'S LESS THAN LAST YEAR IT IS LIKELY THAT WE CLASSIFY THAT POSITION DOWN WHICH MEANS THAT THE NEW POSITION HAS LESS SALARY THAN THE OLD POSITION . DOES THAT SOUND ACCURATE?

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD A JUNIOR MULTIMEDIA SPECIALIST BEFORE .

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>> SO MY POINT IS, YOU'RE COMING HERE AND YOU ARE GOING TO ADD THESE VALUE ADS AND DO IT LESS THEN WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR? I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

>> SHEA, THE FOCUS FROM PRINT TO DIGITAL ADS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN IF I GET ANY OF

THIS WRONG. >> OR I COULD DO IT FOR YOU.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME AND BORE YOU GUYS TO DEATH. WITH THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT QR CODES AND TRACKING PRINT ADVERTISING AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN VERY GOOD TRACTION ON READERSHIP . BUT ON OUR CLICK THROUGH RATE WITH MINIMAL SPEND, WE HAVE SEEN GREAT CLICK THROUGH RATES. SO WE ARE WANTING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SPEND FROM OUR PRINT ADVERTISING ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEDIA PARTNERS AND ALL OF OUR MEDIA PARTNERS LIKE COMMUNITY IMPACT AND TAYLOR PRESS ARE ASKING NOW FOR MORE DIGITAL ADVERTISING SPACE. IT'S A FASTER TURNAROUND, SO IF WE SUBMIT FOR A PRINT ADVERTISEMENT OUR DEADLINES ARE 2 TO 3 WEEKS IN ADVANCE WHEREAS IF WE WANT TO DO A DIGITAL ADVERTISEMENT WE CAN DO IT WITHIN THREE DAYS. IF WE HAVE MORE URGENT NEWS OR SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET OUT LIKE A MOSQUITO SPRAY IS GOING TO HAPPEN WE CAN SEND THAT OUT MORE URGENTLY . AND THEN WITH SIGNAGE, SAME THING. I THINK WE HAD ABOUT $9000 ALLOCATED TO SIGNAGE SO MOVING 75% OF THAT TOWARD DIGITAL MARKETING REALLY LEANS TOWARDS OUR 35-YEAR-OLD DEMOGRAPHIC.

>> THERE IS ONE MORE THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE WAY THE WORLD IS CHANGING AROUND US. SOCIAL MEDIA IS A BIG PLATFORM, AS WE ALL KNOW. GENERALLY THE ALGORITHM, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE ALGORITHM THAT AFFECTS SOCIAL MEDIA TENDS TO STEER YOU TOWARD PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING THE WAY THAT YOU ARE THINKING . IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS THOUGH, THE ALGORITHM HAS CHANGED TO WHERE WHENEVER YOU DO A POST , NO MORE THAN 10% OF YOUR FOLLOWERS WILL SEE THAT HOST UNLESS YOU SPEND MONEY TO BOOST THE ADVERTISEMENT, OR YOU PURCHASE THE AD IN ORDER TO HIT A TARGETED DEMOGRAPHIC. SO WHEREAS AN INDIVIDUAL POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA COULD GET A LOT OF TRACTION , BUSINESSES NOW ARE EFFECTIVELY BEING CHARGED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CONTENT IS GETTING SEEN. THAT'S ANOTHER

ASPECT OF THIS AS WELL. >> IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT YOU CAN SEE WHY THE COMMUNITY CALENDAR COULD BE SUCH A BENEFICIAL TOOL. IT'S LIKE HAVING YOUR OWN ACCESS AND SKIP THE ALGORITHM. SAME WITH ADVERTISING DOLLARS. I BELIEVE IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CALENDAR WITH OUR OWN DATABASE AND RESIDENTS TRUST THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPAM THEM WITH A BUNCH OF CONTENT, AND THEY SHOW THE VALUE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THEM, THAT WE WILL SPEND LESS ADVERTISING DOLLARS OVER TIME AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE SUCH BIG

LINE ITEMS IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES AND A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR DEPARTMENT . CHRISTIE BARNES WAS NOT ABLE TO BE IN ATTENDANCE SO ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING HER LINE ITEMS I WILL FIELD AS WELL. ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT GOALS ARE CLEARLY LISTED UP HERE. ALL THREE OF THEM TIE INTO CREATING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE . STRATEGIC COUNCIL OBJECTIVES FOR GROWING RESPONSIBLY AND SUSTAINABLY. BEYOND THAT , VALUE ADS. THE PUBLIC OUR PROGRAM IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO START UP. IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO DOWNTOWN GEORGETOWN OR ROUND ROCK YOU WILL SEE LITTLE SCULPTURES ON THE SIDEWALKS. YOU MIGHT SEE PUBLIC MURALS ON THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS. THIS LINE ITEM WOULD BE TO PUT THAT PROGRAM HERE IN HUTTO. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAD AND WORK FROM THE BOTTOM UP. THE NONPROFIT FAIR WAS HELD LAST YEAR AND WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST AND NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO FIELD EVERYONE WHO WANTED TO ATTEND. THAT LINE ITEM IS ANOTHER VALUE ADD EXPANDING ON THE BASIS THAT WE ESTABLISHED

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THOSE NONPROFIT PARTNERS. >> TO SARAH'S COMMENTS, I WOULD ADD THAT IF MEMORY SERVES, THE REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM WAS TO FUND IT FOR $25,000 AND I REDUCED THAT BY 90% TO $2500 AND THE THINKING WAS , TO HAVE SOME MONEY TO HELP -- THERE IS A NONPROFIT OR 501(C) TYPE ORGANIZATION FOR THE ARTS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET COORDINATOR THAN WORKING AND WE WOULD GIVE THE REST OF THE EFFORT FOR PUBLIC ART OVER TO THE SPONSORSHIP POSITION WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE , WELL ONE OF HER MISSIONS IS TO PARTNER WITH CORPORATE PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THESE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE QUALITY OF LIFE, WHEN AND WHERE SHE CAN. WHILE THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IS A VALUE ADD, AND A GOOD ITEM FOR Y'ALL TO SEE IN THE BUDGET SO YOU CAN SEE HOW I DID IT. I CHANGED THE QUANTITY FROM 12.1 SO THAT'S HOW 25,000 BECOMES 2500. BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 10%. AND THEN OF COURSE THE NOTES EXPLAIN ALL OF THAT ANYWAY.

THANK YOU. >>

OF HERE. >> JAMIE ARE BEING DISRUPTIVE,

SIR. >> SORRY.

>> I'M JUST GETTING. >> THANK Y'ALL .

>> GOOD EVENING. RICK CORONADO, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. WE HAVE YOU THE CONSTRUCTION DIVISIONS OF PUBLIC WORKS CONSISTS OF SIX DIVISIONS. THIS IS PRESENTING ONE OF THOSE SIX. WE HAVE A TEAM OF SEVEN CONSTRUCTION WORKERS THAT INSPECT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY RANGE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ANYWHERE FROM 15 SUBDIVISIONS TO OVER 30 CURRENTLY CIP, SITE PLAN LOCATIONS. SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE INSPECTORS FROM A RIGHT-OF-WAY INSPECTOR WHICH IS ENTRY-LEVEL ALL THE WAY TO A MID-LEVEL AND SENIOR LEVEL INSPECTOR HAVE DEDICATED PROJECTS WITH THEM. WHAT WE ARE ASKING HERE IS A VALUE ADD TO HAVE AN OVERSIGHT TO REDEPLOY. ONE OF THE THINGS IS REEVALUATE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOES NOT WORK AND ONE OF THOSE IS TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT VACANCY POSITION AND RECLASSIFY THAT TO MORE OF A SUPERVISOR FOR THAT TEAM. THAT WOULD HELP NOT ONLY MANAGE THAT WORKLOAD BUT ALSO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND REVIEW SOME OF THE STANDARDS AND CONDITIONS CURRENTLY , AND THIS ENTIRE TEAM WORKS DIRECTLY TO ME. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE . >> SO THE SUPERVISOR, WOULD THAT SUPERVISOR BE ALSO DOING INSPECTIONS AS WELL OR STRICTLY

SUPERVISING INSPECTORS ? >> AS A NORMAL ROLE, THEY PICK UP ANY SLACK THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE TEAM. SO THEY CAN REDIRECT THAT TO ANOTHER TEAM MEMBER OR THEY CAN BE PART OF THE INSPECTION . MANAGEMENT OF THE DOCUMENTS AND RECORD KEEPING IS VERY IMPORTANT SO ALL THE ITEMS THAT COME HERE BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY WOULD BE THE TEAM LEADER ALSO TO IDENTIFY IF THERE'S ANY GAPS IN THE INFORMATION INCLUDING

INSPECTIONS. >> NOW THEY ARE DOING IT, EACH INSPECTOR IS DOING THEIR OWN? OR IT'S FALLING ON YOU?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE SENIORS TAKE ON THAT LOAD AS FAR AS BRINGING ITEMS HERE. THE TRAINING OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ESPECIALLY THE ENTRY-LEVEL INSPECTORS ARE DONE BY THE UPPER-LEVEL SENIOR STAFF SO IT COULD BE WHERE I DO ALL THE EVALUATIONS FOR EMPLOYEES AND HANDLE ALL OF THEIR TIME AND THAT IS NOT A ROLE THAT EXISTS WITH SENIORS. THAT IS NOT IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION. THAT WOULD BE A ROLE THAT HELPS AUGMENT THAT AND WOULD SERVE AS A BACKUP FOR ANY OF THAT TIME.

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>> I THINK THERE IS THIS PERCEPTION THAT YOU TAKE A PERSON WHO IS AN INSPECTOR AND MAKE THEM A MANAGER AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO SIT IN CITY HALL WITH THEIR FEET PICKED UP AND SAY GET TO IT. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE FOR THE DAY AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE SITTING THERE. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THE INSPECTORS ARE DOING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ON AS MORE OF SUPERVISORY THINGS THAT OTHER MANAGERS THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT ARE NOW DOING THAT THIS PERSON WOULD NOW DO. AND IT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT DUPLICATION OF EFFORT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

>> FORTUNATELY FOR PUBLIC WORKS, IT IS A HANDS ON DEPARTMENT, SO YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR EYES OUT ON THE FIELD AND UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF THE COMMON ISSUES ARE. YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH CONTRACTORS AND ENGINEERS. IT IS A VERY COLLABORATIVE FUNCTION FOR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS BUT IN PARTICULAR WITH CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS THERE'S A LOT OF

HANDS-ON WITH THAT. >> SO WHO IS THEIR DIRECT

SUPERVISOR? >> THEY ALL KIND OF HAVE TO REPORT TO ME THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED.

>> SO THIS PERSON WOULD BE IN BETWEEN YOU AND THEM?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT NOW, EACH DIVISION UNDER PUBLIC WORKS HAS A MANAGER. CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT ASK OF THIS WOULD JUST BE A SUPERVISOR FOR THAT TEAM.

>> RICK , IS THERE COORDINATION WITH LIKE, COMMUNICATIONS AS FAR AS COMMUNICATIONS GOING OUT TO BUSINESSES FOR LIKE , WATER ISSUES OR ANY SORT OF BREAKAGE OR THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY? IS THERE ANY ON-CALL COMMUNICATIONS GOING OUT WHENEVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO HAPPEN?

>> IF YOU ARE SPEAKING TO LIKE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION , THAT GETS HANDLED THROUGH THE UTILITY DIVISION. THEY ARE THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO ANY BREAKS LIKE THAT AND WOULD COMMUNICATE SAY, IF THE CUSTOMER WAS OUT OF WATER. THEY WOULD GET THE FIRST CALL, IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, TACKLE A SOLUTION. AND PART OF THAT IS TO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG OUTAGE. IF IT IMPACTS A FEW CUSTOMERS IT IS MORE DIRECT, BUT IF IT IMPACTS A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OR STREET,

THAT KIND OF ESCALATES . >> HOW DEEP IS THAT TEAM?

>> FOR COMMUNICATIONS, THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION TEAM BUT FOR UTILITIES-- THAT TEAM IS PROBABLY LIKE ONE THIRD ONE 3RD TO ONE FOURTH STILL VACANT. THAT'S THE UTILITY TECHNICIANS . AND PART OF THAT TEAM IS TO EVENTUALLY BREAK THAT UP FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SO YOU WOULD HAVE A TEAM OF, SAY, 10 AND 10 TO HELP MANAGE BOTH WATER ISSUES OR WASTEWATER ISSUES. WE WILL GET TO THAT ONE IN MORE DETAIL, AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANOTHER THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS USING AN EXISTING VACANCY FOR A CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR AND USING THAT FTE TO CHANGE INTO A SUPERVISOR. NOT ADDING ANOTHER

FTE TO THE DEPARTMENT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IT IS LISTED AS A VACANT POSITION AS A CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR AND WOULD BE RECLASSIFIED FOR A SUPERVISOR.

>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU . >> GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS.

ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT OF YOU I HAVE THE THREE DEPARTMENTAL GOALS AND THE VALUE ADD AS THE WORKFLOW SOFTWARE AND ALSO PROPOSED CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD SINCE MARCH 2020. THAT IS A VITAL POSITION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND I AM

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TRAIN INSPECTORS. >> WHAT IS THAT AI WORKFLOW?

>> IT IS ACTUALLY REALLY COOL. IT HELPS STREAMLINE ALL THE COMMUNICATION SO IT'S AN ADD-ON TO OUTLOOK AND YOU WOULD INPUT ALL OF OUR SOP'S, OUR WORKFLOWS SO THAT ANYBODY WHO CALLS IN WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT. IT'S REALLY HAVING ONE VOICE. SO IF YOU ARE HAVING -- FIELDING GENERAL CALLS ABOUT HOW DO I SUBMIT A PERMIT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE SOP SO YOU ARE NOT GETTING MUCH INTO PEOPLE FISHING FOR THE ANSWER THEY WANT. IT'S ALL THE SAME ANSWER BECAUSE THAT IS THE PROCESS. AND FOR EMAILS IT LETS YOU HAVE PRE-WORDED EMAILS THAT JUST SAY, HERE'S HOW YOU WOULD SUBMIT OR HERE ARE THE LINKS IF YOU HAVE A GENERAL ZONING QUESTION. THERE WAS AN ROI INCLUDED WITH THE BUDGET THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS THAT IT CAN HAVE AN ESSENTIALLY , IT'S ALMOST LIKE ADDING AN FTE WITHOUT HAVING TO ADD ONE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT SAVED .

>> SO SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE OR HOW TO SUBMIT A PLAN , THIS ASSISTS WITH THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND YOUR TIME ANSWERING THE EMAILS AND PHONE

CALLS ? IT'S OUTWARD FACING? >> WE STILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO PICK UP THE PHONES AND ANSWER EMAILS BUT CERTAINLY IT HELPS BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST, DO I NEED TO SUBMIT A PERMIT? WE GET A LOT OF GENERAL QUESTIONS OVER FENCE PERMITS. WE WOULD HAVE A RESPONSE SO IF IT COMES TO -- PEOPLE ARE NOT ALWAYS USING THE GENERAL EMAIL LINE. THEY ARE JUST EMAILING AN ADMIN SPECIFICALLY. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. HOLD ON LET ME GET YOU TO THE RIGHT PERSON. THEY CAN ALSO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND IT RAPIDLY INCREASES OUR RESPONSE TIME.

>> SO IT'S CHAT GPT? >> WE STILL HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THE INPUT AND WE STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE EMAILS BUT IF IT GOES TO SOMEONE AND THEY ARE NOT 100% SURE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS RESOURCE SO THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT THE SAME ANSWER . ONE THING WE'VE LOOKED AT IS THAT IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE ACTIVE LINKS. RIGHT NOW IF I GOT A QUESTION ON ZONING I HAVE TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, COPY AND PASTE THE UDC. YOU COULD TAKE THAT AND IT'S ALREADY FILLED OUT AND IT CAN BE SPECIALIZED TO THAT ONE.

>> SO A FASTER RESPONSE FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION?

>> MUCH FASTER. WE WOULD STILL WANT TO PERSONALIZE IT BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE INSTEAD OF A 20 OR 30 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME IT COULD BE DOWN TO FIVE MINUTES.

>> ALSO IT WAS SUGGESTED ABOUT OVERPAYING FOR BOOTS SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT CLOTHING. HOW QUICKLY DO THEY GO THROUGH THEM AND BASED ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE?

>> SURE THING. FOR OUR BOOT ALLOWANCE TYPICALLY IT'S TWO PAIRS A YEAR . NOT A MONTH. MOST OF THE TIME WITH MY INSPECTORS THEY HAVE LITERALLY WORN HOLES IN THE BOTTOM OF

THEIR BOOTS . >> SO IT'S $100 PER PAIR?

>> THERE ARE TIMES THEY KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WEAR STEEL TOE DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF INSPECTIONS THEY HAVE LINED UP SO SOMETIMES THEY CAN WEAR A LITTLE BIT LESS. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY LESS EXPENSIVE BUT IT'S NOT FULL EXPENSIVE LIKE STEEL TOED. THE OTHER ITEM IS THAT I AM LOOKING TO GET THEM THE EXTERIOR WINTER ALL LEATHER JACKETS THAT HAVE THE LINING AND WOULD BE HUTTO BRANDED SO THAT IF IT IS ON-SITE AND IT HAPPENS TO BE RAINING OR THEY GET A FLAT , IF THEY HAVE TO PULL OVER AND FIX A FLAT THEY ARE STILL USING VERY VISIBLE BRANDED JACKETS AND NOT HAVING TO WEAR THEIR PERSONAL ITEMS OUT ONTO THE FIELD FOR THEIR INSPECTIONS.

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>> NO QUESTIONS HARDLY . >> THANKS, ASHLEY.

>> HELLO. DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL DEPARTMENT GOALS REALLY FOCUSED ON EFFICIENCY SO DOING MORE WITH LESS OR LEVERAGING SOFTWARE TO DO THE WORK OF PEOPLE IN A MORE EFFICIENT FASHION. SOME OF THE VALUE ADDS OUT OF THAT. WE WILL SEE HOLIDAYS AND HUTTO THAT HAS BEEN REASSIGNED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO HELP ELEVATE THOSE EVENTS AND MAKE THEM MORE ECONOMICALLY IMPACTFUL . WE ARE ALSO COLLABORATING WITH THE DNI COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT SERIES OF EVENTS MORE INCLUSIVE AND WELCOMING . ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE ADDED CAPACITY FOR PRIVATE RELATIONSHIPS AND SPONSORSHIPS THROUGH A POSITION IN THE DEPARTMENT DESIGNATED TO THAT EFFORT FOR SOME ALTERNATIVE FUNDING AND SPONSORSHIPS SO WE CAN START SECURING FUNDING FOR THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO NOT USE

TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR THAT. >> LASTLY YOU SEE ENHANCED LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT TRAINING. THE CORPORATION HAS LAND SO WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT HOW WE DEVELOP THAT. WE HAVE SOME TRAINING IN THE BUDGET FOR SOME LAND PLANNING AND THROUGH THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE THEY HAVE SOME GREAT OFFERINGS SO THERE ARE A FEW SESSIONS FOR THAT SO THAT STAFF CAN ADVISE THE BOARD. YES THE BOARD HAS LAND BUT STAFF IS THE LIAISON AND ADVISES THE BOARD ON HOW TO PROCEED. YOU WILL SEE SOME SOFTWARE IN THE BUDGET, MOST NOTABLY CIVIC SERVICE SOFTWARE WHICH IS AN INCENTIVES MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. WE ARE IN THE INITIAL SET UP STAGES OF THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT FINANCE BECAUSE IT HELPS US MANAGE TOURS AND WE HAVE NOT ADDED THAT CAPABILITY YET BECAUSE WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AT THE MOMENT. THAT IS A GREAT VALUE ADD AND IS GOING VERY WELL. I'M VERY HAPPY WITH IT SO FAR. LET ME JUST LOOK THROUGH THE LIST HERE. WE ALSO HAVE EXISTING SOFTWARE THAT WE WERE NOT LEVERAGING TO ITS FULL CAPACITY SO OUR MARKETING ANALYST IS LEANING INTO THOSE EXISTING SOFTWARE IS TO BETTER LEVERAGE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO SO THAT WE CAN DO MORE TARGETED MARKETING EFFORTS TO INCREASE VISIBILITY AND ATTENDANCE AT DIFFERENT EVENTS BUT ALSO WHEN WE DO RECRUITMENT FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL PROJECTS SHE WILL BE LEADING THOSE EFFORTS TO BETTER LEVERAGE SOME OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE BUDGET AS WELL. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD?

>> QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ? >> OKAY HERE WE GO . DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY TRIPS OR ANYTHING ALLOCATED?

>> WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS CONFERENCES AND

>> GENERAL FUND . SO SHE IS SAYING THAT CONFERENCES AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND 35?

>> WHAT ARE THE CONFERENCES? >> THERE ARE SEVERAL AND I TRIED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE POSITIONS AND MAKING SURE WE ARE SHARPENING THE SOFTWARE THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BE EFFECTIVE . SO FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE THE BR EI TRAINING AND THAT'S FOR THE BUSINESS SPECIALIST POSITION FROM THE BUSINESS RETENTION INTERNATIONAL. THAT IS IN THERE AND THEN THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC SPONSORSHIP TRAININGS FOR STAKEHOLDER PARTNERS AND FOR THE DIRECTOR THERE IS TRAINING THAT LEADS TO CERTIFICATION THAT IS PUT ON BY THE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND THEN WE HAVE SOME STATE TRAINING AS WELL THAT IS MORE ON ECONOMIC FUNDAMENTALS, THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE. IT IS BROKEN UP THERE SO YOU WILL SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING AND WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS. I BELIEVE THE

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>> I GUESS I WAS TALKING ABOUT CONFERENCES, SPECIFICALLY FOR TRADE SHOWS, FOR GENERAL FUND LET ME SEE .

>> DALLAS? >> YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES THIS YEAR PROPOSED FOR FY 25 . STAFF IS PROPOSED NOT TO GO TO ICSC IN LAS VEGAS. IN FY 24 WE HAD ONE STAFF MEMBER GO AND DISCUSSING IN THE DEPARTMENT, MY EXPERIENCE GOING AND AS STAFF, I REALLY FEEL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE COMING ON, DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS ARE BETTER POSITIONED TO MARKET THOSE LARGER PROPERTIES AT THE NATIONAL TRADESHOW WHEREAS WE CAN FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON THE RED RIVER SHOW IN DALLAS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SMALLER AND REGIONAL COMPANIES ATTEND DALLAS SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A REASON TO DUPLICATE THOSE EFFORTS BY GOING TO LAS VEGAS.

>> SO WE ARE SWITCHING TO LAS VEGAS TO A MORE TEXAS-BASED--

>> THAT PARTICULAR TRADESHOW OCCURS IN TEXAS BUT HAS

NATIONAL RETAILERS THERE. >> ALSO, I DON'T SEE GOING TO

JAPAN HERE IN YOUR STUFF . >> KOREA?

>> THAT'S IN THE CORPORATION BUDGET.

>> IT IS NOT HERE IN THIS GENERAL FUND.

>> CORRECT. >> I STILL DIDN'T FIND IT.

I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE NEW ONE COMES OUT .

>> 35, I'M GOING WITH THE PRINTED ONE ONLINE THAT THE

PUBLIC LOOKS AT. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU A

SCREENSHOT SO YOU CAN SEE IT? >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> GOING TO JAPAN IS WHAT I KNOW--

>> GOING TO KOREA. SORRY. >> BEFORE JAKE STARTS, YOU CAN

COME ON UP -- >> IS THIS YOUR WINGMEN SPEECH?

>> I'VE GOT IT, OKAY? >> THE REORGANIZATION EARLIER IN THE YEAR. OTHER PLACES WERE MOVED OVER . THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIVISION IS THE ONE THAT I ASKED AND I BASICALLY SPLIT STAFF. THAT'S THE ONE THAT I CUT AND BASICALLY GIVEN DIFFERENT ROLES WHICH IS WHY SOME ARE PAIRED TOGETHER AND TAYLOR HAS MOVED INTO THE ROLE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO COMPARE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE LINE ITEMS HAVE SHIFTED OVER. AND THEN-- I'M SORRY? THOSE HAVE MOVED OVER . HOLIDAYS IN HUTTO FOR EXAMPLE WAS BUDGETED LAST YEAR IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WHEN IT SAID REASSIGNED THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS. IT EXISTED OVER THERE BUT MOVED OVER HERE AND NOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL BE OVERSEEING IT. ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED THE POSITION INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT BECAUSE I NEED MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING MORE BUSINESSES IN TOWN, IT'S A THAT THAT BRANCH TOUCHES A LOT OF OTHER AREAS. CHENEY IS SHOWING HERSELF TO BE A VERY ASTUTE AND GOOD MANAGER . SO I GAVE HER PEOPLE TO MANAGE WHO ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO A BUNCH OF OTHER AREAS. SO WHILE THE OVERALL BUDGET SHIFTS WERE BASICALLY NEUTRAL, THAT'S WHY YOU MAY SEE SOME DEPARTMENTS LOOK SMALL AND THEN HER DEPARTMENT GET BIG. PARKS GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT WAS IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE.

>> I'VE BEEN TRYING NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE IF I SAY SOMETHING IT'S THREE MORE PEOPLE AND SOMETIMES I LIKE THAT -- OR FOUR PEOPLE, THANK YOU. BUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THE WAY WE DO BUDGETS. WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE EVERY TIME WE GOT FINANCIAL REPORTS MICHELLE WAS OUR CFO. AND I SWEAR TO GOD EVERY MONTH WE CLOSED AN ACCOUNT DOWN HERE AND MOVED IT OVER HERE AND THEN THE NEXT

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PAYROLL IS RISING FASTER. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE KEEP CHANGING TITLES, DEPARTMENT TITLES, CONSOLIDATING, EXPANDING. IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY AND I MAY BE THE OLD -- AND I MAY BE THE -- AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. HAVE A LITTLE SPIKE HERE BECAUSE WHATEVER, WE ADDED SOMEBODY. BUT IF WE KEEP MOVING EVERYTHING AROUND IT MAKES ME DISTRUST THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING THERE LIKE I CAN'T FIND A $7000 TRIP. I'VE BEEN TOLD EXACTLY WERE TO LOOK AND I CAN'T FIND IT. I KNOW THAT IT'S IN THEIR BECAUSE THE BOARD TOLD ME IT WAS IN THEIR BUT YOU SEE THESE INCREASES, DECREASES . I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I INK YOU ARE DOING IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS BUT WHAT IT'S DOING TO PEOPLE WITH MY MINDSET, AS RARE OF A PERSON AS IM, IS IT'S MAKING ME FEEL DISTRUSTFUL OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM BECAUSE I CAN'T TRACK ANYTHING. I WANT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT YEAR-OVER-YEAR TO SEE AN INCREASE IN IF YOU START ADDING COMMUNICATIONS WITH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND TWO YEARS LATER WE DECIDED THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT, NO ONE CAN TELL ANYTHING OTHER THAN, TAXES ARE GOING UP AND THE NEED KEEPS GROWING. I SAY THAT NOT TO LIST A BUNCH OF FEEDBACK BUT I'M ALWAYS THINKING LIKE, WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL CHANGE IN SIX MONTHS? I THINK SOME OF IT IS APPROPRIATE BUT ANYWAY--

>> THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. I WILL SAY THIS. I SPECIFICALLY KEPT FINANCE FROM MOVING ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES EVEN AFTER I DID THE REORGANIZATION BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY ABOUT WHO REPORTS TO WHO AND WHAT THEY DO. SO THE EXPENSES STILL LIVE WHERE THEY LIVED BUT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A NEW BUDGET, NOW I NEED TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS WERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY BEING CONTROLLED AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DOLLARS. IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHERE THAT DEPARTMENT ENDED UP BASED OFF OF WHERE IT WAS LAST YEAR, THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE. I PRESERVED THAT SO THAT WAY WE COULD SHOW IT . I DID GET ASKED BY FINANCE MULTIPLE TIMES, CAN WE MOVE THOSE LINE ITEMS? ABSOLUTELY NOT . I MOVED WHO REPORTS TO WHO AND THAT HAS MEANT THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS OF HAD TO COORDINATE WITH OTHERS TO GET MONEY SPENT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE OVERALL TRENDS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY DID WHAT THEY SAID THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I HEAR YOU. I'M REALLY TRYING TO FIND TWO THINGS. TO ME I TOOK THE DIRECTION LAST YEAR FROM COUNCIL TO NOT FUND THE ADDITIONAL HELP IN THAT DIVISION FOR THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW AS A STATEMENT THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T REALLY SUPPORT THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON THERE AND THE WAY THAT IT'S HAPPENING TODAY. SO WHENEVER I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SHIFTING WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING, I TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT IS WHY I SEVERED THAT

DEPARTMENT. >> IF YOU THINK THIS IS BAD YOU SHOULD COME WORK FOR DELLA. HOLY MOLY. WE REORGANIZE EVERY QUARTER. WE'VE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT NAMES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MANAGERS . WE WENT THROUGH LAYOFFS LIKE A LOT OF OTHER TECH PENNIES AND NOW MY MANAGER HAS TWICE AS MANY EMPLOYEES AND THEY MOVED EVERYTHING AROUND. I CAN'T IMAGINE WORKING IN FINANCE. YOU BUY IT AND YOU SELL IT, YOU BY ALIEN WARE AND SHOVE IT OFF AND IT'S JUST LIKE, THIS IS

NOTHING. >> SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I

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USED TO THAT ENVIRONMENT. >> NOT ME, SIR. I'M GOING TO JUMP ON MY SOAPBOX BUT AGAIN YOU PLACE ME IN A BOX WHERE I NEVER MADE A STATEMENT ON CERTAIN THINGS AND YOU PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH AND THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> PETE, RANDALL, DAN, BRIAN.

TO BE CLEAR . SO ANYWAY , I TOLD JAMES ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, I AM USED TO A VERY STABLE ENVIRONMENT. I'VE TOLD HIM MY FOLKS RETIRE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT WAS EXTREMELY UNSTABLE BECAUSE EVERY TIME THERE WAS A SHUTDOWN THEY DIDN'T GET PAID. THEY KEPT WANTING TO CLOSE DOWN WHERE THEY WORKED MY ENTIRE ADOLESCENT CAREER. I DO FEEL YOU GUYS ARE MORE-- PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING IN ORGANIZATIONS, GOING DOWN THIS PATH AND THESE PEOPLE GET LAID OFF, I DON'T WANT THAT FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. WHERE I AM DIFFERENT MAYBE THEN YOU GUYS. SO NOT GOOD AND NOT BAD. JUST A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. NOT TO MARRY AND DIVORCE AND MARRY AND DIVORCE. I'M USED TO THE EXACT SAME THING FOR 30 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. MY FOLKS WERE THE SAME WAY AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A JOB LONG-TERM, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE MODIFIED-- MODEST BENEFIT AND PAY INCREASES AND ALL THE COMING AND GOING ALWAYS GIVES ME ANXIETY. THAT I DID TELL JAMES THIS WEEK THAT I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS , THE FOUR THAT WORK IN TECH ARE MORE USED TO THIS AND MAYBE THAT'S THE FUTURE AND THE WORLD WE LIVE IN. BUT I AM NOT ACCUSTOMED. I DEAL WITH THE SAME CITY PEOPLE IN OTHER CITIES. I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING IT UP. I DON'T WANT TO COME OFF AS OFFENSIVE AND I BROUGHT IT UP AND OFFENDED

SOMEBODY. >> YOU DIDN'T OFFEND ME BUT THAT SPEAKS A LOT TO OUR BACKGROUND. I THINK YOU WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT HAS PROBABLY VERY FEW REORGANIZATIONS, I WOULD GUESS . I'M NOT TALKING LAYOFFS, BUT REORG . WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME WITHOUT LAYING PEOPLE OFF. HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT EITHER. THE SUBJECT BROUGHT OFF WAS -- BROUGHT UP WAS REORGANIZATION AND THOSE OF US IN TECH EXPERIENCE REORG'S, SHIFTING THINGS AROUND, MOVING THINGS AROUND. NOT LAYOFFS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, I WOULDN'T SAY COMFORT BUT MAYBE

UNCERTAINTY? >> REORGANIZED THREE MONTHS AGO

>> AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO GO. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT JAKE. JUST IN THERE. YOU'RE GOING TO GO AT SOME POINT. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO DISTRACT THE CONVERSATION BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT POINT. MAYOR BACK TO YOUR POINT I KEEP ALL THE DOLLARS WERE THEY LIVED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR SO THAT WAY IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THE DATA IT HAS INTEGRITY AND YOU KNOW WHERE IT GOT MAP TO AND FROM. IN THE LAST BIT I WILL SAY ON THIS AND HOPEFULLY

WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK-- >> I'M IN IT, NOW.

>> I'M TRYING TO FIND TO THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL AND LOOK WHERE THINGS ARE WORKING AND NOT WORKING, WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO SHIFT AND PIVOT AND WHERE WE NEED TO PUSH RESOURCES BASED OFF THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN GIVEN AN OFF OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THE BUDGET IS MANAGEMENT GUIDANCE.

I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HATES IT BUT IT'S A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT BUT IT IS NOT THE BIBLE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO AMEND, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? ANYWAY, OKAY. READY?

>> OH MAN. WELL FOR THE RECORD, JAKE ISBELL, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. NOTHING LIKE CHANGING GEARS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISASTERS. LOVE IT.

>> WHAT IS THIS DISASTER, SIR?

>> I'M GOING TO STICK TO THE BUDGET HERE. MAYOR, COUNCIL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SPEAK TO THE MISSION OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. AND ALL HAZARDS APPROACH TO BUILDING A

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IT IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING SATELLITE COMMUNICATION . THE DIRECTIONAL SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY IS KIND OF OUTDATED. THIS SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY IS ONE THAT FINDS THE SIGNAL ITSELF AND DOES NOT NEED EXPENSIVE MOTORS OR SOME TYPE OF MECHANISM TO LOCATE THE BEST SIGNAL. IT'S REALLY ADVANCED. NEXT YOU WILL SEE OUR EMERGENCY SUPPLIES. IT'S KIND OF COMBINED WITH THE CLIMATE CONTROL WAREHOUSE UNIT . THIS WAREHOUSE UNIT AND THE SUPPLIES THAT WOULD GO WITH IT ARE THINGS LIKE WATER AND MEALS, LIKE SHELF READY MEALS ALONG WITH BASIC MEDICAL SUPPLIES THAT WOULD ALLOW US, IN THE EVENT OF ANY SUPPLY CHAIN SHORTAGE OR FAILURE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE BASE SUPPLIES ESPECIALLY FOR THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF BOC SUPPORT . WE HAVE MEALS, BASIC MEDICAL SUPPLIES AND WATER TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN OUR OPERATION AND EVEN POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME FOR DISASTER SURVIVORS, AS WELL. THAT STORAGE UNIT WOULD ALSO BE A STAGING AREA FOR ANY DONATIONS DURING AN INCIDENT WHERE WE ARE DOING DONATION MANAGEMENT. THEN YOU WILL SEE THE WEATHER STATIONS. THIS ONE IS A WEATHER MONITORING STATION PROPOSED TO EVERY SINGLE PARK THAT ALSO HAS AN OUTDOOR ALERTING SYSTEM. WHAT IT IS ABLE TO DO IS

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I AM INTERESTED IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTION ON THE WEATHER STATIONS. IS THAT AUTOMATED? LIKE IT'S TIED INTO NOAA OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE MONITORED?

>> IT IS AUTOMATED AND CAN GO OFF IN BOTH WAYS. WE CAN SET UP PREESTABLISHED POLICIES AND TRIGGERS THAT WILL TRIGGER THAT ALARM AND THEN THE FUNCTION OF THE ALERT SYSTEM, OR WE CAN DO IT MANUALLY BASED ON ONE LOCATION OR SEVERAL. IT ALSO PROVIDES A TEXT TO SPEECH SO IF WE NEED TO GIVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION OTHER THAN, A LOUD NOISE OR SOMETHING LIKE, GO TO YOUR CARD NOW -- GO TO YOUR CAR NOW, THAT IS SPECIFIC AND WE CAN GET IT ACROSS THROUGH A TEXT TO SPEECH FEATURE.

>> IF IT'S A STORM COMING IT'S LIKE STAFF TO BUT A RANDOM THUNDERSTORM ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND THE LIGHTNING GETS CLOSE TO THE PARK IT WILL JUST GO OFF BY ITSELF AND NO ONE HAS

TO BE THERE? >> CORRECT. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A PERSON ON SITE TO MANAGE THE STATION.

>> THREE QUESTIONS. THE CLIMATE CONTROL WAREHOUSE UNIT .

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A PUBLIC WORKS AREA, A POLICE STATION. WHAT DOES THAT UNIT LOOK LIKE? AND THEN EMERGENCY SUPPLIES, WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL? WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN? THE WATER IN THE FOOD. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ? WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO REPLACE THAT AND WHERE WOULD THAT BE STORED? THE SUPPLIES ONCE THEY REACH THEIR LIFESPAN, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE DONATE THAT TO THE NONPROFITS AND PURCHASE NEW SUPPLIES? AND THEN THE PUBLIC PREPAREDNESS EVENT. WITH THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING? OR REOCCURRING OR YOU ARE TEACHING FOLKS HOW TO PREPARE FOR LIKE A 72 HOUR KIT OR HOW TO PREPARE DURING A HURRICANE OR TORNADO ? A POTENTIAL FREEZE? SORRY TO

THROW OUT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. >> IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'M

TRACKING. >> FIRST OFF WITH THE STORAGE UNIT, THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE START FOR US TO GO FROM REALLY NO SUPPLIES TO HAVING SOME SUPPLIES. IT'S THE FIRST STEP . IT'S NOT LIKE A HUGE WAREHOUSE. IT IS A SMALL STORAGE UNIT THAT WOULD HAVE BASICALLY A PALLET OF WATER AND A PALLET OF MEALS READY TO EAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE WATER IS CYCLE THROUGH. MAYOR WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT UTILIZING SOME OF THE WATER FOR SMALL INCIDENTS AND ALSO CITY EVENTS TO KEEP THAT ROTATION WHERE WE ARE NOT HAVING TO MAKE ONE HUGE PURCHASE OF WATER ANNUALLY SO WE ARE MONITORING THE SHELFLIFE OF BOTH WATER AND MEALS. THE MEALS SHELFLIFE IS PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS. VERY EXTENSIVE. BUT WATER SITTING IN PLASTIC IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP FOR A LONG TIME. DEFINITELY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ANNUALLY AS WE USE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME AND REPLACE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME FOR THAT. NOW REGARDING THE EVENT, THE SUMMIT. IT IS MORE TIED TO ORGANIZATIONS VERSUS INDIVIDUALS. IN THIS BUDGET WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS AND INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS THINGS WE WANT TO PROMOTE. DEFINITELY IN OUR WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND PREPAREDNESS MESSAGING, THIS SUMMIT IS DESIGNED FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS OF HUTTO TO GET SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON ORGANIZATIONAL PREPAREDNESS. A

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>> NICE, THANK YOU. >> I KNOW THAT I AM

LONG-WINDED. >> YOU DID GOOD. WE TALKED MORE

ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. >> WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO ANSWER

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YOU DID GOOD. THANK YOU,

JAKE. >> WIDE WITH THE SCREENS BREAK

EVERY TIME I'M UP HERE. >> THE SLIGHT GLARE.

>> BEAR WITH ME. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE, IT WON'T WORK.

>> WELL, ENGINEERING IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, RIGHT?

>> IT IS IF YOU WANT TO LIVE VOTE .

>> OR IF YOU WANT YOUR WATER TO WORK OR YOUR STREETS TO BE DESIGNED PROPERLY. OKAY. BACK IN ACTION. GOOD EVENING AGAIN MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER. I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL THE DEPARTMENT GOALS . REAL QUICK ON THE VALUE ADD. JUST A REMINDER, LAST YEAR I WAS HIRED ON TO START AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY AND WE'VE BEEN GROWING STEADILY EVER SINCE. PART OF THAT IS TO -- WE ARE TRYING TO BRING HUTTO BACK WHERE IT SHOULD BE IN LINE FOR A CITY OF ITS SIZE. THIS YEAR WE HIRED ON A GIS ANALYST /MODEL PERSON AND HE'S WORKING HARD ON DOING THAT KIND OF STUFF SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE GPS FIELD EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW US TO GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY LOCATE OUR ASSETS, WHEREAS HISTORICALLY ALL OF OUR GIS MAPS ARE BASED ON INTERPRETATIONS OF DRAWINGS. SO THIS IS ALLOWING US TO GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY LOCATE WITH ACTUAL GPS COORDINATES SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE IN THE FIELD AND EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. THE BIG THING ABOUT ENGINEERING FOR YOUR REFERENCES, ENGINEERS ARE ALL ABOUT MANAGING RISK. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT I GET TRAINED AND TAUGHT HOW TO MANAGE IN THE WORLD OF CIVIL ENGINEERING. THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND GETTING THIS FIELD EQUIPMENT. IT MINIMIZES RISK , WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE AND SAME THING WITH THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN. THAT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR US TO HAVE AND NOT ONLY IS IT A GOOD THING FOR US TO HAVE, IT IS NOW ACTUALLY REQUIRED AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. BUT THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN TAGGED BY THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE THE ENFORCER OF THIS . TAKING YOU GUYS BACK TO TITLE II OF THE ADA ACT . IT REGULATES ALL PUBLIC ENTITIES AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS. FINALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING WE ARE GOING TO START BEING HEAVY-HANDED ON GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND FORCING YOU GUYS TO DO THIS STUFF. THEY'VE HANDED DOWN A DECREE AND TEXDOT HAS SAID NOTIFICATIONS TO PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS SAYING IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS PLAN YOU AREN'T GETTING ANY MONEY. PART OF IT IS HAVING THE PLAN SHOWS WE ARE MAKING GOOD EFFORTS TO

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ADDITIONAL LICENSES FOR THE MODELING SOFTWARE THAT WE PURCHASED . THAT'S BECAUSE WE PURCHASED ONE BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS JUST ME TRYING TO HANDLE IT. WE HIRED THIS MODELER BUT IF HE'S WORKING ON A MODEL, WE CAN'T BE BOTH THERE AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S CUMBERSOME, IT'S DIFFICULT, I HAVE TO BE OVER HIS SHOULDER LOOKING AT WHAT HE'S DOING AND THIS KIND OF STUFF AND IT ALLOWS A LOT MORE FUNCTION AND A LOT MORE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS.

THE FTES THAT WE HAVE, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE ASSOCIATE ENGINEER, BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING UP . THIS YEAR WE HAVE I THINK IT'S, 54 CIP PROJECTS AND SIX OTHERS THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS LARGE PLANS OR PROJECTS SO A TOTAL OF 60 PROJECTS . JUST TRIED TO KEEP THAT BETWEEN ME AND ONE OTHER ENGINEER IS, LET'S JUST SAY DIFFICULT. AND THE ASSOCIATE ENGINEER TO HELP ON THE PLAN REVIEW SIDE, I'VE GOT ONE ENGINEER HELPING ME DO PLAN REVIEWS. ENGINEERING LOOKS AT PLOTS , PRELIMINARY PLATS, ENGINEERING LOOKS AT PUDS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ASHLEY'S TEAM LOOK AT BUT WE LOOK AT IT FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE.

CONSTRUCTION PLANS, DRAINAGE REPORTS, ALL THOSE THINGS. IF YOU REMEMBER ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TEST WITH IS TO REDUCE RELIANCE ON THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANTS. WE HAD GARVER ACTING AS THE CITY ENGINEER, A CONTRACT TO DO ALL OF OUR PLAN REVIEWS, GARVER WHO WAS DOING OUR WASTEWATER MODELING , ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE GONE. MY TEAM IS DOING EVERYTHING IN-HOUSE AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL BODIES TO KEEP ME SANE, BASICALLY. THAT IS MY QUICK SUMMARY AND I WILL BE GLAD TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THAT ADA DEAL, HOW COME WE ONLY GET OUR STUFF -- THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARD IS THE STATE STANDARD AND WAS UPDATED FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE PRO-AG BUT THAT BASICALLY GETS SIDEWALKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH ADA BECAUSE THEY CAN BE MORE OF A CROSS SLOPE AND 2% OR A RUNNING SLOPE

THAN 5%, >> I SEE SIDEWALKS AND I KNOW THEY ARE ABOVE THAT BECAUSE THEY COME TO A POINT SO I'M THINKING WE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING CERTIFIED AND CONCERNED ABOUT BEING SUED BY THE FEDS I DRIVER IN LAKESIDE ESTATES THAT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO CUT IT. I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE FEDS TO COME DOWN ON US LIKE THEY DID ,

SAY, SAN FRANCISCO. >> THE TRANSITION PLAN DOES NOT ONLY LOOK AT STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. IT WILL LOOK AT

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THESE THINGS INTO COMPLIANCE . >> I GET THAT. WHAT I AM ASKING IS IF WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ADA ISSUES, WHEN THEY ARE ACCEPTING THESE IMPROVEMENTS , HOW CAN WE ARE NOT ASKING TO ALREADY HAVE THEM ADA CERTIFIED? FORGET THE PLAN, WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THAT WITH STUFF COMING ONLINE?

>> I THINK IT'S JUST GENERALLY THE NORM IN THE REGION IS TO ACCEPT THE TAS CERTIFICATION THAT MEETS ALL THE

REQUIREMENTS. >> WE'VE GOT FOUR OR 5 MILLION THAT WE'VE BUMPED INTO IT . I'M ALMOST POSITIVE NO ONE IS GOING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. THIS GUY SIGNING OFF ON A TAS BUT IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WHEN WE SAID WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ADA AND THE FEDS CRACKING DOWN AND I'VE BEEN THINKING THIS WHOLE TIME WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING IT BUT I COULD BE WRONG. ONE WAY TO FIND OUT IS TO HAVE THE FEDS COME INTO TOWN.

>> DID I COUNT, YOU GOT HIRED LAST YEAR. WE HAD FOUR CONTRACTS . FOUR THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTS.

>> OR CONTRACTORS. >> WE HAD -- GARVER HAD THE STAFF AUGMENTATION CONTRACT , WE HAD GARVER DOING THE WASTEWATER MODEL , WASTEWATER SERS, WE HAD K DOING PLAN REVIEWS, WE HAD FREEZE AND NICHOLS DOING WATER SERS'S.

>> YOU GOT HIRED LAST YEAR, YOU HAVE A TEAM OF FIVE PEOPLE?

>> NOT COUNTING THOSE TWO. WE HAVE 60 PROJECTS AND THERE ARE

TWO ENGINEERS? >> SHE AND I HANDLE ALL OF THE PROJECTS. I HAVE A PLAN REVIEW ENGINEER AND SHE AND I HANDLE ALL PLAN REVIEWS AND ALL THAT STUFF . WE WORK ON ALL OF THE MODEL STUFF UPDATING WASTEWATER MODELS AND KEEPING ALL OF THAT ACCURATE AND PRODUCING THE MODEL BACKGROUND. AND THEN I HAVE AN ADMIN WHO HELPS KEEP MICE SCALE AND BUDGET AND ALL THOSE THINGS BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE IN SO MANY PLACES THAT I NEED SOMEONE TO KEEP ME ORGANIZED.

>> >> WHAT WAS THE TOTAL FOR ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS? IT WAS EXCESSIVE WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS.

>> I DIDN'T RUN ALL THE NUMBERS. THE GARVER CONTRACT WAS OVER $1 MILLION. THE K FREEZE CONTRACT -- THE WASTEWATER MODEL CONTRACT WAS AROUND 50 OR 60,000 . THEIR MODEL CONTRACT WAS THE SAME AND THEN SAME THING FOR FREEZE AND NICHOLS. IT WAS 1.5, $1.6 MILLION?

>> SO YOUR BUDGET IS COMING IN AT $1.2 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE THING WITH THE NEW FTES WHICH IS $300,000 SAVINGS BALLPARK WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE. THE PUBLIC SAYING WE ARE NOT WORKING ON FISCAL THINGS AND WE ARE BECOMING A MATURE ORGANIZATION BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY IN THESE DEPARTMENTS. YOU HAVE TO GROW YOUR FTES. I HEAR IT SAID ON THE DAIS, WE DON'T NEED TO GROW GOVERNMENT. WE ARE GROWING BY TOO MANY PEOPLE. WE ARE GROWING PEOPLE BUT ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW IT IS BEING APPLIED AND KEEPING THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

>> BUDGET IS COMPLICATED. THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO LOOK AT IT INSTEAD OF HEARING ONE ECHO CHAMBER .

>> THANK YOU . >> RICK CORONADO, PUBLIC WORKS

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>> NO, SIR. >> I DID NOT THINK SO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER, ON THAT , THAT IS SOMETHING I KEEP

HEARING. >> I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PLAN TO TURN THIS INTO AN OFFICE BUILDING WHICH REQUIRES TO HAVE ITS OWN RESTROOM FACILITIES AND YOU HAVE TO ENCLOSE THE WALLS THEY'RE NOT ENCLOSED AND DO A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. THE PLAN HAS BEEN TO LEAVE IT AS AN OPEN AIR PAVILION, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT IT IS AND SPEND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY POSSIBLE TO GET THE WATER CONNECTED, ELECTRICAL CONNECTED, AND THE LANDINGS POURED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE LANDING COMING OUT OF THE DOORS IS NOT POURED. AND TO ALLOW THE FACILITY TO BE USED. DEVELOPERS HAVE A PLAN TO BUILD A PUBLIC RESTROOM, RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE THE BUILDING IS ON THE SIDE WHERE THE SPLASH PAD IS THAT ULTIMATELY ALL PEOPLE USE ON THE SPLASH PAD WILL BE ABLE TO USE BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC RESTROOM. OVERTIME, THERE WILL BE A RESTROOM FACILITY EVEN WHEN THAT BUILDING IS BEING USED BUT IF THERE IS AN EVENT OR WEDDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WILL NEED TO BRING IN THE TRAILER OR RESTROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. COOL, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO. ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE DIRECTOR. YOU HAVE MY DEPARTMENTAL GOALS AT THE BEGINNING, ONE OF THE VALUE AS IS THE ARMORED CAR SERVICE, IT

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WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR US IS PROVIDE SOME SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING THE DEPOSIT TO THE BANK AND STILL GIVE US A TIMELY RECORDING OF THE DEPOSIT. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT VALUE ADD FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. AND GIVE US A MAINTAINED FINANCIAL STABILITY WITH THAT. THE NEXT THING IS THE INVESTMENT AND ADVISORY SERVICE, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE FIRST. I WILL SAY, WE OVER BUDGETED THAT AMOUNT, WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED WAS THE FIRST YEAR, WHICH IS $42,005 -- $42,500. THERE IS SOME SAVINGS THERE, THIS WILL BE A GOOD PROGRAM TO ASSIST US IN FINDING INVESTMENTS AND FINDING THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE AMOUNT WE NEED INVESTED AND BRINGING THOSE INVESTMENTS WITH THE PAY APPLICATIONS ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT MATT IS WORKING ON. AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE BONFIRE OR EVE RETURN SYSTEM. THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO OUR DISSIPATING DEPARTMENT, IT WILL PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE SOLICITATION OF BIDS AND GIVES US A TEMPLATE, IT ALLOWS VENDORS TO GO ONLINE AND REGISTER, BE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT BIDS ARE OUT THERE AND GIVE THEM MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. IT WILL MAINTAIN THAT LIST AND REGISTRATION AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT FEATURE IS, IT HAS CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. IT WILL MAINTAIN OUR CONTRACTS AND GIVE US NOTICES AS TO WHAT IS COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS FAR AS MATURITIES OR RENEWALS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OR START LOOKING AT IN ADVANCE INSTEAD OF WAITING TILL THAT MOMENT. SO, THAT IS IT FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, IS THERE

ANY QUESTIONS? >> ALBERTA, DID I SEE SOMEWHERE THAT THERE WAS A POSITION? WHAT DEPARTMENT IS THAT IN?

>> IS IN FINANCE, I BELIEVE FINANCE ACCOUNTANT IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO. SOME DUTIES WE ASSIGNED TO THAT POSITION WOULD BE INTERNAL AUDITING. LAST YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL AWARDED FINANCE FOR TWO MORE POSITIONS. ONE WAS A SENIOR ACCOUNTANT AND THE OTHER WAS A FINANCIAL ANALYST. SO THEN, WHEN I CAME ON AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR CURRENT POSITIONS WERE AND WHAT WE HAD, WE FELT INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO SENIOR ACCOUNTANTS, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD ONE, AND YOU AWARDED US ANOTHER ONE, WE COULD USE MORE OF AN COMPLIANCE ACCOUNT. TO HELP WITH ACCOUNTING ISSUES AND ALSO LOOK AT INTERNAL AUDITING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY , HOW WE ARE PROCESSING THINGS, HOW WE ARE RECORDING, TO TRY TO MAKE IT

MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE. >> I'VE ALWAYS WANTED AN AUDITOR THAT ALMOST ANSWERED THAT ONE, BUT A SUPER MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, SOMEONE WHO NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT BEING FIRED FOR BRINGING UP , EXECUTIVES WENT ON A TRIP AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING AND SOMEONE CAN TURN THEM IN.

IT SEEMS THEY DON'T HAVE IT OR THEY ALWAYS WORK FOR SOMEBODY WHO COULD EASILY -- THEY COULD VERY EASILY GET FIRED. I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO DO IT, TO ME, AN AUDITOR THAT ANSWERS TO YOU OR JAMES ISN'T GOING TO DO AS GOOD OF A JOB AS AN AUDITOR WHO ANSWERS TO ALMOST NO ONE BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN BE FIRED ONLY BY FIVE COUNCILMEMBERS. WE HAVE PASSED AN ORDINANCE AROUND RESOLUTION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. EXPENSES HAVE TO GO BEFORE US BEFORE THEY GET APPROVED. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING COME UP TO US IN FOUR MONTHS. SOMETHING TELLS US WE HAD EXPENSES REIMBURSED. WHAT IF WE HAD AN AUDITOR -- I DON'T THINK THE

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ANYWAY. >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS

BEEN NO REIMBURSEMENTS. >> THAT BRINGS UP THE BIGGER ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, I WORK FOR A WEIRD COMPANY WHERE THE HIGHEST RANKING PERSON ALWAYS HAS TO PAY. IN THE OLD DAYS, THE LOWEST RANKING PERSON WOULD PAY FOR THE MEAL AND THE HIGHEST RANKING PERSON WOULD SAY, YOU PAY FOR IT, I WILL AUTHORIZE IT. WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE IT HAPPENS, IF I AM WITH THE MAYOR , AND HE IS AT ODDS WITH JAMES AND I'M NOT, I'M MORE LIKELY TO HAVE MY EXPENSES APPROVED. THAT'S WHY, TO ME, IT COMES DOWN TO THE AUDITOR. IT WOULD VERIFY WHO GAVE THE AUTHORITY,

WHO DID THIS. >> WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY.

>> I THINK THERE IS A CONFUSION ON THAT. THE AUDITOR THAT WE HAVE FOR FINANCES ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE INFORMATION WE GIVE THEM. THEY ARE NOT WORTH ANYTHING. IF YOU FAIL TO GIVE THEM IMPORTANT INFORMATION, IT IS LIKE HER TAX RETURN. YOU CAN CHEAT ON YOUR TAXES AND ALBERTA IS YOUR ACCOUNTANT AND SHE WILL MAKE THE TAX RETURN EXACTLY HOW IT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON WHAT YOU GIVE HER. THE FIELD TO GIVE HER ANY 1099S OR ANYTHING LIKE

THAT -- >> THEY WOULD STILL FLAG IT. IF THEY ARE DOING THEIR RANDOM ACCOUNTS, AND THEY PULL AN EXPENSE AND THERE IS NOT DOCUMENTATION, THAT IS WHERE

THEY FLAG IT. >> EVERY YEAR THEY FLAG IT AND EVERY YEAR WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

>> THAT IS DIFFERENT. >> I WANT SOMEONE WHO GETS IN FRONT OF US AND SAYS, THIS DEPARTMENT IS DOING THIS AND THIS COUNCILMEMBER IS PRESSURING PEOPLE -- A TRUE AUDITOR YOU ALMOST SCARED TO DEATH OF THEM WHEN THE PHONE RINGS BUT YOU KNOW IF YOU DO YOUR JOB RIGHT, THE PHONE WILL NEVER RING. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE AUDIT EVERY YEAR BUT WE HAD A CLEAN AUDIT -- I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY.

TOO MANY PEOPLE LYING. IT MAKES ME DISTRUST THINGS.

>> ALL GOOD? OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT ONE?

>> HELLO. MUNICIPAL COURT. OUR TWO VALUE ADDS, WE ARE ASKING TO RE-CLASS TWO POSITIONS AND ADD A DEPUTY COURT CLERK. THE REASON WE ARE ASKING TO RE-CLASS IS ONE OF THEM WE ARE WANTING TO RE-CLASS A SENIOR DEPUTY COURT CLERK , BASICALLY RIGHT HAND TO THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR. HAS SUPERVISORY ROLES, THIS POSITION, SHE HAS FILLED IT FOR 18 YEARS, SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND FOR BOTH OF THESE, OUR TICKETS HAVE INCREASED ALMOST 30, 31% THIS PAST YEAR AND A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FULLY STAFFED OR NEARLY FULLY STAFFED. THE NUMBER OF TICKETS ARE INCREASING. ON TOP OF THAT, THIS, STARTING IN SEPTEMBER, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE PATROL UNIT DO THAT PROGRAM AND SO, THAT WILL ADD ADDITIONAL TICKET IN CASES THAT OUR COURT CLERKS ARE HAVING TO HANDLE. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, THEY ARE DOING IT NOW WITH FOUR EMPLOYEES, SO WE WANT TO ADD THE DEPUTY COURT CLERK AND RECLASSIFY, WHICH I DIDN'T FINISH -- SORRY. DEPUTY COURT CLERK TO A SENIOR COURT CLERK AND MOVE THE SENIOR UP TO THE ASSISTANT, BASICALLY. BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN HERE, ONE HAS BEEN HERE 18 YEARS AND THE OTHER, 10 YEARS. THERE IS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WE HAVE IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE THEIR LEVEL TWO CERTIFICATIONS. THERE ARE FOUR LEVELS OF CERTIFICATIONS. LEVEL 1 IS PRETTY MUCH YOUR DEPUTY

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>> I GOT NOTHING . SORRY, I WAS THINKING OF SOMETHING.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I WILL JUMP IN WHILE SHE IS LEAVING. THE RE-CLASSES, THIS IS SOMETHING, MAYOR, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT. IN THE CITY WORLD, THERE IS NOT EQUITY, THERE ARE NOT THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT EXIST IN THE PRIVATE WORLDS. THE WAY THAT POSITIONS GROW AND EXPAND IS, YOU CREATE POSITIONS AND YOU HAVE VACANCIES, YOU HAVE MORE, I DON'T KNOW, TECH ONES, TECH TOOLS. YOU IF YOU WERE TECH TO . WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOWS FOR CAREER PROGRESSION AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY STILL BE TAX OR MUNICIPAL COURT CLERKS. THE DIFFERENCE IS THE LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION, COLLEGE, AND EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE BETWEEN THE LEVELS. IN THIS CASE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ACTUAL COURT CLERK POSITION. IT'S ONLY BEEN DEPUTIES AND SENIOR DEPUTIES.

THIS IS A RE-CLASS, THIRD TIER OF THE COURT CLERK, WHICH THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE OF. THAT IS FAIRLY COMMON WITH THE WAY CITIES NORMALLY DO THINGS. THE DIFFERENCES YOU MIGHT NOT NEED ANY EXPERIENCE TO BE A TECH ONE OR COURT CLERK. BUT YOU NEED 12 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO BE AT COURT CLERK. PART OF -- AND YOU WILL HEAR THIS AT HR -- PART OF THE STEP PLAN PROPOSAL IS BASICALLY YOU LOCK PEOPLE WILL DOWN INTO 10 STEPS, ONCE THEY GET TO THE 10TH STEP, THERE IS A MERIT OR SOMETHING THE CITY IS DOING. THE ACTUAL BASE SALARY WILL NEVER GROW AGAIN UNLESS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO A HIGHER PAY GRADE AND THAT IS WHAT THESE SORTS OF THINGS,. YOU WILL SEE THAT IN PUBLIC WORKS A LOT. YOU WILL HAVE TECH ONE, TWO, THREE, OPERATOR. THEN ASSISTANCE, THEN NOT ACTUAL LIBRARIAN LIBRARIANS. AND THEN, ACTUAL LIBRARIAN LIBRARIANS. THAT IS

PRETTY COMMON. >> ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS THE LIBRARY, WE HAD A LIBRARY MANAGER. THEN SHE LEAVES AND WE NEED A LIBRARY DIRECT HER. I DON'T UNDERSTAND , THERE IS A DIRECTOR ROLE AND THE MANAGER ROLE. THEN, WE HAD ANOTHER POSITION WHERE THEY WERE THIS AND THEN, THEY BECAME A SENIOR AND THEN WE HAD THE BOTTOM LEVEL. THE BUDGET WOULD BE, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SENIOR AND WE DEBATE THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE , I UNDERSTAND WANTING PEOPLE TO GROW AND GET MORE MONEY IN HIGHER LEVELS BUT WHEN YOU WORK IN A SMALL CITY WITH 1800 EMPLOYEES -- YOUR LEVEL OF GROWTH IS LIMITED AND HOPEFULLY, STABLE. YOU AND I, PHILOSOPHICALLY , I GUESS ARE NOT ON THE SAME DEAL , I'VE HEARD YOU SAY , DO THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE DESERVE THIS. WE ARE HERE TO GROW THE ORGANIZATION.

BUT WHEN YOU GROW THE ORGANIZATION, YOU GROW PEOPLE'S TAXES. AND IF YOU ARE GROWING IT BECAUSE IT IS FILLING NEEDS? TOTALLY ON BOARD. AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE I'M HAVING RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT GET PROMOTED BASED ON OBSERVING, THEY SHOULD GET IT BASED ON THEY HAVE EARNED IT AND THEIR -- THERE IS A SPOT OPEN. EVERYONE HERE IS DOING A GREAT JOB, EVERYONE HERE IS DOING SOMETHING. THE PROBLEM IS, ARE THEY DOING THINGS NEEDED BY THE CITY IN A TOWN OF 40,000? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE AND WERE TRYING TO COMPETE AND IT IS GREAT THEY HAVE ALL OF THESE SPECIAL ADD-ONS AND VALUE ADD BUT, THEY HAVE 1800 EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE 200. THAT IS WHERE I THINK WE ARE RUNNING

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OUR CONVERSATION. >> I AM NOT TRYING TO PRIME YOU INTO SPEAKING BUT I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS AN ISSUE SO WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE WHY SEE WERE ABLE TO HEAR AND THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO HEAR IT. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT -- INAUDIBLE ] -- BACK TO THAT PHILOSOPHY DIFFERING, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THEY DIFFER. MAYBE YOU USE EARNED AND YOU USE -- WHAT WAS THE WORD YOU SET UP?

>> EARNED. >> IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WERE HANDING OUT GIFTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE NOTION IS , WHILE THINKING ABOUT COURT, SPECIFICALLY, YOU WILL SEE OTHER ONES THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION WERE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TAX. THE VELOCITY THAT I HAVE IS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR PHILOSOPHY IN MANY WAYS BUT MINE IS, YOU WERE DOING MORE WITH LESS BY PAYING FOR QUALITY PEOPLE AND THEY ARE DOING THE MULTIPLIER EFFECT OF WORK. IF I DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND ADVANCEMENT, IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS MASSIVE ADVANCEMENT. IT IS VERY MODERATE, VERY CONSERVATIVE TYPE OF ADVANCEMENT. I'M NOT HAVING TO RETRAIN SOMEONE NEW, I DON'T HAVE TO LOSE EFFECTIVENESS. I CAN KEEP TENURED AND EFFECTIVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE DOING MULTIPLIER EFFECT WORK AND THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO WITH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROPOSALS THAT I END UP ACCEPTING INTO THE BUDGET. CRATING A POSITION TO CREATE A POSITION OR THAT SORT OF STUFF -- EVEN I/O DON'T -- I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH HER RESPONSIBILITY AND GIVE THEM A PATHWAY FORWARD, SOME ADDITIONAL CAREER GROWTH AS THEY PUT IN THEIR 18 YEARS, OR WHATEVER AND THEY ARE SUPER EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AT WHAT THEY DO? I WANT TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE. NOW, I HAVE TO START OVER WITH A NEW PERSON, RETRAINING AND CONSTANTLY REGURGITATING THE WHOLE LEARNING -- WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? THE LEARNING CYCLE OR CURVEBALL.

>> I AGREE ON THE EFFICIENCY. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A 14% INCREASE IN TAXES. EITHER THE EFFICIENCY IS THERE AND WE ARE EXPANDING GOVERNMENT OR THE EFFICIENCY IS NOT THERE. I ARGUE THAT WE ARE BROADENING OUR THING AND THE MAJORITY OF COUNSEL MAY BE OKAY WITH THAT. THAT IS FINE. FOR ME, PERSONALLY, I LOVE THE EFFICIENCY AND THE PROGRAMS, BUT IF WE ARE TRULY BEING EFFICIENT, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT TRIPLING TAXES IN FIVE YEARS. BETTER SERVICES, FASTER TIMES, CHEAPER RATES. BUT IF COSTS ARE GOING UP, WE ARE EITHER EXPANDING OR ARE NOT AS EFFICIENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT

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THE ANSWER IS. >> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS BOTH. WE ARE NOT IN A STABLE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THIS YEAR LOOKS LIKE LAST YEAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND OF SERVICES AND PROJECTS WE ARE HAVING TO DO EACH YEAR. IT IS GETTING BROADER AND BROADER, THE DEMAND ON YOUR EXISTING STAFF SO, YOU ARE SEEING BOTH. YOU ARE SAYING AN EXPANSION AND, YOU ARE SEEING EFFICIENCY. IT IS JUST THAT, WE ARE NOT IN A STATIC ORGANIZATION WHERE THE TOWN IS DEVELOPED OUT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES, IN THAT CASE, YOU CAN JUST FOCUS ON EFFICIENCIES WHEN YOU'RE ADDING 10% OF YOUR POPULATION , INCREASING WATER CONNECTIONS AND ROAD CONNECTIONS AND PARKS AND ALL THE THINGS TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE CHANGE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE REALITY OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, THERE IS THAT EXPANSION AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AND FEELING. AS YOU BECOME MORE SOPHISTICATED -- YEAH. LIKE, THE PUBLIC RT WERE TALKING ABOUT. THAT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION. IF WE DON'T WANT TO EXPAND IN THAT WAY, THAT IS A CONVERSATION HE WILL ULTIMATELY, HAVE TO HAVE. THANK

YOU. >> FLEET MAINTENANCE.

>> FLEET MAINTENANCE IT IS. >> HERE'S THE OTHER DIVISION, THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR IMPROVING THE MAINTENANCE MECHANIC, THIS YEAR. THIS IS A TEAM OF TWO, MANAGER AND MECHANIC. THEY SERVE AS BACKUP TO EACH OTHER AND FLEET MAINTENANCE COVER SUPPORT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. THERE IS ANYWHERE FROM 130 TO 140 UNITS AND THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THAT IS AN EXPANSION OF NOT ONLY SERVICES OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY BUT, THE DEMAND WE HAVE TO DO MORE WORK AND KEEP THESE VEHICLES AVAILABLE FOR STAFF, A LOT OF IT IS PROBABLY 50% PD VEHICLES. THAT IS DEMANDING CLIENT OR CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT THE VEHICLES ARE READY TO GO AND AVAILABLE FOR STAFF. THAT ASK HERE , THE VALUE ADD IS, THE MAINTENANCE COST IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE HISTORICAL COST , THIS IS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, HOW MUCH IS BEING SENT ON NOT ONLY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE , BUT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. THAT IS THE VALUE ADD HERE AND I WILL PUT THIS THEME OUT HERE AGAIN. PART OF THAT ASK THIS YEAR IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS WIDE ASSET MANAGEMENT WHICH INCLUDES A FLEET MODULE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR FLEET INVENTORY, UNDERSTANDING THE CONDITIONS. WHAT IS MORE EFFECT LIVE, LEASING VERSUS BUYING, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO COME OUT OF AN ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN

IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> DID YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE 130

VEHICLE UNITS? >> 130 IN THE FLEET, SOME OF THAT IS IN PROCESS FOR RETIREMENT, THERE IS PROBABLY A DOZEN OR SO OF THOSE READY FOR RETIREMENT.

>> WE HAVE 130 VEHICLES? >> 130 UNITS THAT WE HAVE FOR

THE ENTIRE CITY. >> WHAT IS AN UNITS?

>> I CAN PULL THAT LIST UP. >> TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD 120 EMPLOYEES. NOW WE HAVE 130 VEHICLES?

>> HOLD ON A SECOND. >> GOOD THING WE HAVE THAT

PARKING GARAGE. >> I THINK THAT INCLUDES THE

MOWERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. >> THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING. I DON'T MEAN TO ASK A QUESTION THAT -- GET TO IT LATER. WHAT I'M WONDERING IS OUR POLICIES ON TAKE-HOME VEHICLES. IF WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE, THEY HAVE TO LIGHT THE SIREN TO GET HERE. OBVIOUSLY, I LIVE IN TOWN SO, I

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>> HAS A TAKE-HOME VEHICLE. >> YOU SAID NO ONE HAS THE CAR

OUT. >> THEY ARE NOT AUTHORIZED.

>> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. >>

>> THERE IS NO INSINUATIONS. LISTEN, THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE FOR POOR CONTROLS. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARS WE HAVE? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES HAVE STICKERS ON THEM.

I KNOW I HAVE BEEN TO OTHER PLACES, I WILL NOT SAY THE DEPARTMENTS, MAYBE YOU WERE HAVING A PARTY AFTERWARDS, I DON'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE OF WAITING FOR THE BUDGET. IT DOES, IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD, I WONDER, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE A TAKE-HOME VEHICLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE GET CAR ALLOWANCES? THIS IS NOT INFORMATION GIVEN TO US.

>> ARE YOU ASKING, IF SOMEONE HAS A CAR ALLOWANCE, THEY ALSO HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO TAKE, CITY VEHICLE?

>> NO, IF THERE IS 130 VEHICLES OUT THERE -- WHO HAS THEM ALL? WHO IS ALLOWED TO TAKE A VEHICLE AND WHO IS NOT?

>> IT IS ALL THE SMALL ENGINE MOWERS.

>> ARE PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR LAWNMOWERS?

>> SERIOUSLY , ARE THEY CUTTING THEIR OWN GRASS?

>> HE'S SERIOUS. >> THEY COULD BE PROSECUTED.

>> WE HAD A MANAGER THAT WAS TERMINATED AT THEIR PREVIOUS JOB BECAUSE THEY USED CITY EMPLOYEES TO DO WORK ON THEIR HOUSE. TO SAY I AM CRAZY FOR ASKING A QUESTION -- NOT THAT YOU WERE SAYING I'M CRAZY BUT --

>> AN UNIT CAN INCLUDE THE EQUIPMENT SUCH AS THE FLUSHER TRUCKS. SOME OF THE SPECIALIZED, PATRICK TRUCK WE

JUST RECEIVED. >> SWEEPER, I'M SURE THAT IS FIVE UNITS. IT IS A BIG MACK DADDY.

>> PEOPLE, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? IT IS JUST A MANAGER --

>> THEY APPROVED A MECHANIC THIS YEAR.

>> IT IS JUST A MECHANIC -- >> YES, SIR.

>> AND YOU CAN'T TAKE VEHICLES ANYWHERE ELSE TO GET SERVICE?

>> WE UTILIZE CONTRACT SERVICES, WE UTILIZE THE POLICE WITH ENTERPRISE, WE DO SOME IN HOUSE MAINTENANCE, IT WILL BE A SMALLER LEVEL, WE ARE NOT GOING TO REDO REBUILDS. IF WE LOSE AN ENGINE, WE LOST IT FROM ONE OF OUR MAJOR UTILITY VEHICLES.

THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN AND REBUILDS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT. IF ONE IS OUT, THE OTHER ONE IS THERE TO HELP.

>> THEY DO A LOT OF TIRES. >> TIRES, BATTERIES, BRAKES.

>> BUT IT IS TWO PEOPLE? >>

>> BUT IT IS TWO PEOPLE? >> IT WAS ONE FOR A LONG TIME.

>> AND THEY ALL WORK OUT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE

PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING? >> IN THE BUILDING, ITSELF?

>> SORRY, THE PUBLIC WORKS TRAILER?

>> IT IS TIGHT, YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY AS 30 STAFF GOING IN AND

OUT OF THE TRAILER. >> 30?

>> THEY USE IT FOR BRAKES --

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>> I GUESS WE WILL SAVE ON HEAT WHENEVER IT IS WINTER TIME.

>> I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF SOMEONE HAS BROUGHT ONE HOME

, THAT IS A FIREABLE OFFENSE. >> FOR THE RECORD, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO HAS ALLOWANCES? I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE PEOPLE.

>> I THINK THERE ARE ONLY SIX.

>> I DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ON POSITION TITLES.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAD AN AUDITOR IN AUSTIN, DIDN'T YOU?

>> WHAT IS THAT? >> AN AUDITOR IN AUSTIN?

>> WE HAD THIRD-PARTY AUDITORS, INTERNAL AUDITORS .

>> THIS IS NOT CITY OF BOSTON. CITY OF HUTTO.

>> I KNOW THAT PD HAS TAKE-HOME VEHICLES. ON-CALL PUBLIC WORKS HAS TAKE-HOME VEHICLES. ANYONE WHO HAS TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO A JOB SITE, FIRST THING CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TAKE-HOME CAR.

IF THERE IS A BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO IS DOING A 3:00 A.M. PUBLIC CONCRETE FLOOR, THEY COULD BE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE IT HOME THE NIGHT BEFORE AND GHOSTS STRAIGHT TO THE SITE.

THAT IS A SORT OF STUFF I KNOW OF THAT HAPPENS.

>> IS THERE A LIMIT ON THE DISTANCE THEY CAN GO? CAN THEY LIVE AT THE COVE AND DRIVE IN EVERY DAY?

>> TECHNICALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE A LIMITATION BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPECT TO BE ROLLING. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS A TAKE-HOME VEHICLE BECAUSE THEY MAY BE CALLED OUT THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. AND THEY PASS IT BACK AND FORTH TO WHOEVER IS ON CALL DURING THE WEEKEND BUT, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF TAKE-HOME CARS THAT ARE NOT PD CENTRIC. IF YOU ARE SEEING SOMEONE ROLL AROUND IN THE TRUCK AT 8:00 , 9:00 AT NIGHT, CHANCES ARE IT IS A UTILITY TRUCK , LONG CALL, EMERGENCY CUT OFF, EMERGENCY TURN ON, WATER LEAK THEY ARE RESPONDING TO OR AN ALARM HAS GONE OFF.

>> IT COULD BE A GUY WHO GOT A HUTTO STICKER AND PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE VEHICLE. THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT PEOPLE ARE

DOING OUT THERE. >> SOME PEOPLE GO TO THE GOODWILL TO FIND THOSE CITY SHIRTS.

>> I'M SURE HE FOLLOWS YOU AROUND SO HE CAN GO TO THE LIQUOR STORE , CAN HIT UP THE GAME ROOM, YOU CAN CALL HIM

OUT. >> EVERYBODY IS IN THE MOOD. IN FRONT OF YOU, DEPARTMENTAL GOALS, I WILL GO STRAIGHT AHEAD ON THE VALUE ADDS, THE FIRST IS THE EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE MODULE, REQUESTING THIS ITEM, THIS SYSTEM WILL ALLOW CONSISTENT PROCESS AND TRACKING OUR EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE. RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AND THROUGH THE SOFTWARE, OUR EMPLOYEES AND SUPERVISORS WILL BE ABLE TO ALIGN THEIR OBJECT TIPS. -- OBJECTIVES. THIS WILL BE USED FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, ADDRESS ANY PERFORMANCE CONCERNS AND TRACK TRAINING RECORDS AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENTAL NEEDS. THE NEXT ITEM IS SUPERVISOR ACADEMY. INVESTING IN PROPER TRAINING AND DEVELOPING OUR EMPLOYEES TO BECOME FUTURE LEADERS IS A CRUCIAL STRATEGY TO ACHIEVE LONG-TERM GROWTH AND FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ASKED THE CITY GROWS, WE BELIEVE IN INVESTING AND TRAINING NEW LEADERS. THAT WAY, THE CITY WILL NOT REMAIN AS STAGNANT. WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND DEVELOP EMPLOYEES. OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSET OF OUR ORGANIZATION. INVESTING IN THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY IN ITS ENTIRETY. THE

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ANY QUESTIONS? >> I WILL SAY, I THINK SOMEONE ON THIS DAIS WILL SAY, HOW WILL THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION SYSTEM BE USED? IT USES A.I. TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. THEY CAN'T BE GIVING EACH OTHER CREDITS. IT PAYS ATTENTION TO THAT STUFF AND TRACKS IT AND WATCHES IT.

>> ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS UNDER OTHER EXPENSES, YOU HAVE $1 MILLION LISTED BUT I DO NOT SEE WHAT THAT WAS FOUR.

>> THAT IS THE PARITY, LONGEVITY, CERTIFICATION PAGE , HIS ASSIGNED LINE ITEM SO IT IS NOT BUILT INTO THE SALARIES. IT

IS ALL THERE. >> CAN I ADD A REQUEST THAT YOU

PUT THAT IN THE NOTES . >> IT IS IN THEIR.

>> I'M SAYING WHEN YOU CLICK UNDER CLEAR GROWTH NUC $1 MILLION, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

>> IS IT IN THE EXPANDED ONE? >> I FOUND IT , THANK YOU.

>> I DO AGREE WITH TRAINING. SOMETIMES, I DON'T KNOW WHEN A PERSON SHOULD BE TRAINED AND PAID FOR BY THE EMPLOYEE , MAYBE EXPAND THEIR HORIZON. IF I AM IN REAL ESTATE AND I WANT TO LEARN SOMETHING ELSE, MY EMPLOYER MIGHT NOT BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE MY JOB IS THIS AND THEY ARE EXCITED I WANT TO LEARN MORE THINGS BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE I WAS HIRED FOR THIS JOB. LOOK AT THE BUDGET, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAINING GOING ON AND IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW MANY DAYS PEOPLE ARE HERE AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

WHAT WAS THAT NAME OF THE LEADERSHIP TRAINING?

>> BLD. >> I LOOK AT AS A TAXPAYER, TWO HOURS DRIVING, TWO HOURS IN TRAINING, TWO HOURS GOING BACK AND FOR SIX MONTHS, EVERY OTHER WEEK, THERE IS A DAY OFF AND IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, VACATION, DAYS OFF, SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES MAY NOT BE IN OFFICE 20% TO 30% OF THE TIME BECAUSE THEY EARN THEIR VACATIONS, GET THEIR HOLIDAYS AND THEY DO TRAINING FOR SEVERAL WEEKS AND HAVE CONFERENCES. SOME OF THEM ARE GONE 30% OF THEIR TIME TRAINING, CONFERENCES , AND ALL OF THAT. DO THEY NEED MORE HELP BECAUSE THEY ARE GONE SO MUCH? AND IS THERE A TRAINING FOR LEADERSHIP, IS THAT OF OUR EXECUTIVES DOING IT THERE, THEY CAN DO IT HERE. YOU TELL ME, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME, WORK REMOTELY. WE COME FROM A WORLD WHERE ANYONE CAN WORK FROM HOME. BUT WE CAN'T DO ALL OF OUR TRAININGS REMOTELY, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THESE PLACES. IT CONCERNS ME THAT SOME OF OUR LEADERSHIP THINGS ARE TAKING A DAY AWAY THAT MUCH. THERE IS A LOT OF LEADERSHIP TRAINING, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD, IS IT SAID DAY DEAL, WEAK DEAL, HOW DOES IT HELP THEM IN THEIR JOB? ALL THESE THINGS POP IN. THESE CYCLES, I TELL THESE THINGS TO JAMES, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE TRAINED BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AND IF WE ARE NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOBS AND WE ARE GETTING VERY TRAINED SO WE CAN TELL JAMES, WILL YOU PROMOTE ME? I'M GOING TO ANOTHER CITY.

I DON'T WANT THAT EITHER BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE WILL STOP, -- STUCK, WHERE THEY THINK NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEM. A GUTS ME CONCERN THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRIAN. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE

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KEEP ME AWAKE AT NIGHT. >> THE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT IS EVERY OTHER TUESDAY, IT IS NOT AN ENTIRE DAY, IT IS ONLY HALF A DAY. THE PURPOSE OF THAT, WHY WE TRAVEL TO BRIAN IS NOT ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF TRAVELING, IT IS GIVING US AND ALLOWING US, THE STUDENTS TO FOCUS MORE ON WHAT IS IT WE ARE LEARNING WITH NO INTERRUPTIONS. THE ENVIRONMENT, ITSELF, THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAN LEARNING THE MATERIALS. US LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER THROUGH THE CONSULTANT, HELPING US, THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WEEKS, WE WERE DOING IT HERE THE LAST FEW WEEKS BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE THAT HAPPENED AND THE FACILITY HERE, WE WERE ACTUALLY MISSING THE PLACE THERE BECAUSE OF HOW WE CAN REALLY FOCUS AND DO THE WORK OFF THAT WHOLE PROGRAM , IN FACT, NOW THAT WE ARE DONE, WE GRADUATED, WE ARE EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM TO THE WORKFORCE.

WHILE WE WERE IN THE PROGRAM, WE ARE USING WHAT WE ARE LEARNING TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES DEVELOP. IT IS NOT, TAXPAYERS -- WASTED DOLLARS , IT IS PART OF WHAT I HAVE MENTIONED, TO DEVELOP AND MATURE THE LEADERSHIP WE HAVE IN THE CITY

OF HUTTO. >> IT IS A TWO HOUR CLASS?

>> YES, SIR. >> YOU SAY HALF DAY BUT I SAY FULL-DAY BECAUSE IT IS TWO HOURS THERE, TWO HOUR CLASS, TWO HOURS BACK, I'M LEAVING 30 MINUTES EARLY BECAUSE OF LIABLE TO GET TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH CAMERON. IT'S NOT THAT I THINK IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY, THIS IS A VERY BIG PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATES. WHEN PEOPLE GET COMP TIME OVER EIGHT HOURS, YOU HAVE TAXPAYERS WORKING EIGHT HOURS A DAY DOING NOTHING, THEY DON'T GET A PAT ON THE BACK, THANK YOU, YOU PAY THE WATER BILL THREE DAYS LATE. THEY LIVE WITH THAT AND WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT INSIDE THIS BUILDING THAT THERE IS A FINE LINE -- WE TOLD THE PUBLIC, EVERY OTHER TUESDAY, TOP 10 PAID PEOPLE ARE OFF IN BRIAN TRAINING FOR LEADERSHIP, WHAT WOULD THEY SAY? SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY I LIKE IT, SOME WOULD SAY HOW TO WHY LEARN LEADERSHIP -- LEARN LEADERSHIP, HOW DO I DO IT? TO ME, THAT IS A FULL DAY OUT THERE.

>> LET ME REDIRECT THAT. WE ARE NOT EXPANDING TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO BRIAN. WHAT SHE MEANS BY EXPANDING, WE ARE TAKING THE MATERIALS AND THE THINGS BEING DEVELOPED AND ROLLING OUT INTO THE ORGANIZATION HERE. IT WILL BE ROLLED INTO THE STUFF THAT WE ARE WORKING ON BUT WE ARE NOT SENDING MORE PEOPLE.

ANOTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU, TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS. FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAVELING -- CARPOOLING AND TAKING ONE OF THE FLEET VEHICLES , THEY TAKE TURNS WHO IS DRIVING AND THE REST ARE WORKING WHILE THEY ARE TRAVELING BACK AND FORTH. IRENE HAS BEEN IN THAT, MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN IN THAT CARPOOL. I DRIVE MYSELF INDEPENDENTLY BUT I HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE. WHILE I'M DOING IT, I AM MAKING PHONE CALLS OR THINKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROBLEMS OF THE CITY I HAVE TO GET SQUARED AWAY AND I HAVE QUITE TIME ON THE ROAD. IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS FAR-REACHING AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE. THERE IS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT HAS GONE INTO KEEPING THE COST CONTAINED AN UNDERSTANDING WE ARE OUT OF THE OFFICE BUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT VERY ONE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THE GROUP AS A WHOLE WAS SAYING, WE ARE TOO BUSY, WE HAVE TOO MANY THINGS TO DO, WE DON'T SEE THE VALUE IN COMING OUT TO DO THIS THING BEFORE THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT

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IT MAY BE THAT FIVE PEOPLE ARE DOING TWO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOP MEANT THINGS ARE AT THE ENTIRE YEAR. AS YOU'RE TRYING TO READ AND INTERPRET THIS, PAY ATTENTION TO THE QUANTITIES BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I AM REFLECTING IT TO YOU AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO A THING, SO YOU ARE NOT THINKING THAT THE WHOLE GROUP IS GOING TO EVERY SINGLE TRAINING, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT IT IS MEANT TO DO. IF YOU ARE THE FINANCE PERSON, YOU ARE GETTING FINANCE STUFF. IF YOU ARE THE PLANNING PERSON, YOU ARE GETTING SOME PLANNING STUFF. IF YOU ARE THE ENGINEER PERSON, YOU'RE GETTING ENGINEERING STUFF. AND THE ONE DEPARTMENTAL THING, IT'S THE STATE CONFERENCE. THAT IS HOW IT WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT INTO EVERYONE'S PROFESSIONAL PLAN.

>> IT'S OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THIS ONE HAS REALLY GOT MY INTEREST.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. I AM DAVID REEVES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY MANAGER. THIS YEAR, WE PUT A LOT OF PRIORITY FOCUS INTO COMPUTING HARDWARE WITH THE MAJOR REFRESH WE DID AT PD TO SERVERS AND STORAGE. IN THIS NEXT YEAR, WE ARE PUTTING MORE PRIORITY INTO CYBERSECURITY, WHICH IS A NEVER-ENDING TASK , MAINLY TO HARDEN AND STRENGTHEN OUR CYBERSECURITY RESOURCES WHICH INCLUDES UPGRADED TOOLS FOR MANAGING THE TEXANS TO POSSIBLE INTRUSIONS. AND SERVICES TO IMPROVE OUR BUSINESS CONTINUITY AND VAST RECOVERY ABILITIES IN CASE OF A MAJOR DISRUPTION. ALL OF THOSE SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PILLAR OF FINANCIAL STABILITY. TO SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PILLAR OF OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THIS IS SECURITY-RELATED TOO, TOOLS TO ENHANCE AND IMPROVE OUR MOBILE DEVICE MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE TOOLS, NOW. THERE WHAT I WOULD CALL LOW-LEVEL TOOLS, WE NEED BETTER TOOLS FOR THAT.

BETTER TOOLS AND ENHANCED AUTHENTIC -- AUTHENTICATION.

MANY DEPARTMENTS ARE ALREADY USING IT, IN PARTICULAR, PD AND I.T. WE ARE LOOKING AT ROLLING THAT OUT TO EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE SOME HARDWARE THAT IS NEEDED AND IT IS CORE SWITCHES.

PD WOULD BE THE LAST THING , THE NEW COURSE SWITCHES WILL GET OUR VALUE OUT OF THE NEW NETWORKING HARDWARE TO PUT IN THIS YEAR AND WE NEED NEW COURSE SWITCHES AT PUBLIC WORKS. THOSE ARE PRETTY OUTDATED, THERE. THOUGH THE SWITCHES THAT ARE THERE WILL NOT GET THE BENEFIT OF THE FIBER RING WE HAVE COMING SOON, NEW SWITCHES WILL, AND WILL IMPROVE THEIR COMPUTING AND RESOURCES AT THOSE LOCATIONS QUITE A BIT. THE LAST THING, IT IS ALSO A SECURITY ENHANCEMENT, THE NETWORK TOOLS, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DETECT ISSUES BEFORE THEY BECOME AN ISSUE AND WITH OBSERVABILITY TOOLS, YOU CAN DETECT A POSSIBLE SECURITY RISK BEFORE IT BECOMES A FULL-BLOWN SECURITY RISK. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON IN THIS BUDGET, HERE. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS

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TIME? >> I'M AFRAID TO ASK, ARE WE DOING ENOUGH AS A CITY, EVEN WITH THIS, IS THIS ENOUGH? YOU AND I HAVE TALKED, HAVE TO PUNCH IN THREE PASSWORDS TO GET TO MY LAPTOP BUT HERE, I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. EVERYTHING I DO HAS LIKE A PUSH NOTIFICATION FROM A PROGRAM, DO WE NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE OF THAT? ONE HACK AND I'M SURE WE

ARE DONE, RIGHT? >> THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION, I ALREADY HAVE TO PUT IN AUTHENTICATION TO LOG IN OF COURSE, I HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T. PD HAS ACCESS TO A LOT OF THINGS OTHER PEOPLE DON'T.

WILL NOT ONLY ROLL THAT OUT BUT INCREASE ACROSS -- EVEN YOUR CLOUD TOOLS, YOU WILL HAVE TO BE AUTHENTICATED TO LOG INTO OUTLOOK OR ONE DRAFT. THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> IS IS ENOUGH TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE OR JUST A COUPLE

STEPS DOWN THE ROAD? >> THIS JUST GETS US DOWN THE

ROAD. >> WHAT DO WE NEED?

>> THIS GETS US TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE EVER DECREASING THE CHANCES WE HAVE A MAJOR HACK. YOU CAN GET TO THE UPPER LEVEL, SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY AND START REQUIRING AFTER EVERY DEVICE YOU USE, IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED WITH OUR I.T. OR CAN'T EVEN HIT OUR RESOURCES.

>> I'VE HAD TO WHITE MY PHONE AND A MINUTES NOTICE.

>> CITY OWNED PHONES, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. YOU HAVE TO RAMP UP.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WRITE A CHECK FOR 10 TIMES WHAT WE ARE SPENDING NOW AND ONE BUDGET YEAR BUT THE FURTHER WE GO DOWN THE ROAD, THE MORE WE PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE UPPER LEVEL

OF SECURITY. >> THERE WAS A MASTER PLAN THAT

WAS LAID OUT. >> ALL OF THESE ARE SUPPORTED BY THE I.T. MASTER PLAN. AS I SAID WHEN I FIRST TALK TO YOU, THEY HAVE A GOOD 5 TO 7 YEAR PLAN TO KEEP RAMPING UP YOUR SECURITY DEFENSES BUT IN THREE YEARS, THE SECURITY RESOURCES MAY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THEY DO TODAY. WE KEEP RAISING THAT WALL AS HIGH AS WE CAN.

>> WITHIN TWO YEARS, WE SWITCHED COMPLETE SYSTEMS. THERE'S NO REASON TO LEARN THE LAST ONE BECAUSE HE WILL LEARN AGAIN. BUT, I'M NOT AN I.T. GUY.

>> WHAT IS AVERAGE COST OF A RAN SOMEWHERE ATTACK? DO WE HAVE THAT BUDGET -- IS IN OUR INSURANCE POLICY?

>> WE HAVE TML, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE EXPANSION THAT THEY

WILL COVER IT. >> I DON'T REMEMBER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE RANSOME WARE. YOU WILL NEVER BE COMPLETELY IMMUNE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TRAINING AND TOOLS. I WOULD TAKE THIS TIME TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT YOUR STATE REQUIRED SECURITY TRAINING IS DUE BY THE END OF THE MONTH BECAUSE YOU ARE LISTED AS MY REPORTS, IT COMES TO ME.

>> I'M LUCKY I MENTIONED THAT.

>> CAN YOU SEND THAT AGAIN ON MONDAY, MAYBE, NOT TOMORROW.

>> I DID THAT WORK. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE GUY TEACHING US USED TO BE A HACKER. KNOW, I NEED TO TAKE IT BECAUSE MY CERTIFICATE WON'T WORK HERE.

>> SINCE DAVID IS HERE, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION I'VE HEARD ABOUT PHONE ALLOWANCES. THE WAY THAT PHONE ALLOWANCES WORK RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE A JOB AND YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED A PHONE, A CITY PHONE AND YOU ARE LIKE, I DON'T WANT THE CITY PHONE, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IT COSTS THE CITY TO HAVE THE SERVICE OF THE PHONE TO HAVE AS A PHONE ALLOWANCE TO GO TOWARDS HER PERSONAL PHONE. SOME PEOPLE CHOSE NOT TO GET THE PHONE AND HAVE THE PHONE ALLOWANCE. OTHER PEOPLE TOOK THE PHONE, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. IT COSTS US THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY,

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EITHER WAY. >> WHAT ABOUT CONTROL? I'M NOT ALLOWED TO USE VERIZON AT WORK --

>> OUR VERIZON -- >> NOW, VERIZON IS GOING TO SUE

ME FOR SAYING THAT. >> IS LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE

AND HIGHER PRIORITY. >> IF IT IS AN EMPLOYEE USING THEIR OWN PHONE, PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THING THEY ARE ACCESSING IS OUTLOOK AND TEAMS, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

>> I PICK MY PHONE, THEY PICK THE SERVICE. THAT IS WHAT I WONDER ABOUT THIS STUFF. WHEN I GO TO MEXICO, I CANNOT GET ON MY WORK LAPTOP BUT I CAN GET ON THE CITY STUFF. THEY SAY IT IS NOT SECURE AND HERE WE ARE, HOW MUCH ARE WE MOVING OURSELVES UP , HAVING A PLAN THAT IS MAYBE NOT AS STRINGENT AS OTHERS, TRYING TO BE NICE TO EVERYBODY. IF YOU GET COMPROMISE, IS NOT ABOUT YOU, IT PROBABLY COST THE WHOLE CITY MILLIONS IN LOST PRODUCTIVITY AND ISSUES. IF YOU WANT TO USE T-MOBILE, USE YOUR OWN PHONE. WHATEVER THE CASES.

>> TAXPAYER PROVIDED PHONES ARE ON OUR NETWORK.

>> WILLOUGHBY PHYSICALLY PROVIDED OR PROVIDED WITH MONEY? IF WE DECIDE THERE IS A SYSTEM THAT WORKS BEST ON AT&T OR WHATEVER, IF YOU WANT TO BE SENSITIZED OR HAVE A PHONE, YOU'D DO THE MOST SECURE WAY THAT DAVID AND HIS TEAM DETERMINED. IF YOU WANT T-MOBILE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING ELSE, THAT IS TOO BAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, YOU WOULD THINK I WORK FOR THE CIA , WITH THE STUFF I HAVE TO DO AND HERE, IT FEELS REALLY

LAID-BACK. >> THE DUO AUTHENTICATION, I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT. THAT IS THE NEXT STEP AND WITH THE CLOUDS, IT IS A -- PROTECTING THE CLOUD TOO. IF YOU LOG INTO TEAMS, YOU HAVE TO DO THE PUSH NOTIFICATION TO MAKE SURE IT IS YOU AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT NOT USING A PARTICULAR PHONE AT WORK, YET, BUT IF THAT IS THE THING, THAT IS A THING.

>> HOPEFULLY, WE WON'T GET HACKED, NOW.

>> I REMEMBERED, YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE I.T. DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY, IS THERE AN I.T. HAD FOR PD OR THAT STILL YOU?

>> WE ADDED A POSITION THIS YEAR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THAT. WHO JUST TALKING TO THE CHIEF BUT WHAT A GREAT JOB THAT POSITION IS DOING. THEY HAVE AN I.T. SPECIALIST

WHO IS DEDICATED. >> YOU STILL COORDINATE, OF

COURSE? >> YES, HE IS AN I.T. TEAM

MEMBER. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> HELLO, EVERYONE, I AM KRISTIN PHILLIPS, THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR. OUR DEPARTMENT GOALS ARE LISTED THERE. THE ONLY PUZZLE WE HAD WAS THE RECLASSIFICATION OF OUR LIBRARY INTO LIBRARY MANAGER. SHE HAS SERVED AS AN INTERIM LIBRARY MANAGER THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. IT IS A LOT MORE RESPONSIBILITY, WE WANT TO GIVE HER A HIGHER LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND LEADERSHIP.

>> WE HAD A LIBRARY MANAGER , THINGS RAN GOOD .

>> THINGS RAN. >> I WILL SAY GOOD BECAUSE NO ONE SAID BOOKS WERE NOT THERE. NO ONE HAS EVER COMPLAINED TO ME ABOUT THE LIBRARY, BUT WE HAD A LIBRARY MANAGER, THEY LEFT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE HAD YOU AS OUR DIRECTOR, WELCOME. I NEED TO GO DOWN THERE MORE. NOW, WE NEED A LIBRARY MANAGER, THIS SEEMS LIKE WHAT I TELL JAMES, IT

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IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD A MANAGER, WE MADE A DIRECT. WHAT WHAT A MANAGER DO THAT NOW YOU WERE DOING AS A DIRECTOR THAT THEY WEREN'T DOING? AM I MAKING SENSE?

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT. I DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A STRATEGIC PLAN, I OVERSEE MANAGEMENT OF LIBRARY OPERATIONS. I AM A CITY LIAISON FOR THE LIBRARY AND VISOR REPORT AND WORKING WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. WORKING TO GET REVITALIZED AND RESTARTED ONCE AGAIN. HIRING, TRAINING , PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS , I CULTIVATE AND MAINTAIN AFFECT THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY , SCHOOL, AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. ONE OF MY BIGGEST ROLES IS LESS ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND MORE ABOUT CREATING PROGRAMS AND ORDERING THE BOOKS. IT IS MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. MAKING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS MY PRIORITY, ADVOCATING FOR THE LIBRARY AND WITH OUR INCREASED PATRONS, INCREASE OF USAGE AND PROGRAMS, TRYING TO CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO USE SPACES OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIMIT ON OUR SPACE.

PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES TO PROMOTE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND GIVE US SPACES TO DO A PROGRAMMING OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARY. A LIBRARY MANAGER WOULD BE MORE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO WOULD DEAL WITH SCHEDULING, THE PROGRAM IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE LIBRARY DURING THE DAY OR TWO COUNCIL CHAMBERS. LIBRARY MANAGER WOULD MANAGE THE ACTIVITIES OF THE LIBRARY WHERE THE DIRECTOR IS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND FINDING OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES.

>> IS THE DIRECTOR MORE OF , A FUNDRAISER -- MANAGER IS THE

ONE MANAGING THE LIBRARY? >> THE FUNDRAISING IS ONLY IN HER REALM. NOT THAT SHE DOESN'T MANAGE THE LIBRARY EITHER. I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE DESIRE I HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL ABOUT HOW WE PAY FOR THINGS, WHETHER WE USE TAX DOLLARS FOR IT OR NOT, WHY ARE WE NOT PARTNERING? IT TAKES SOMEONE WITH A HIGHER LEVEL OF AWARENESS AND CAPABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WHERE, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A NEW LIBRARY FACILITY FOR ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING PROGRAMS AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM THAT DAY TO DAY THAT DAY IN ORDER TO DO THAT STUFF. IF YOU DO THAT STUFF AND DO NOT HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS OVER THE DAY TO DAY, YOU ARE LEAVING YOURSELF EXPOSED. WHENEVER I ELECTED TO RE-CLASS THE LIBRARY MANAGER TO DIRECTOR, IT IS BECAUSE I KNEW I NEEDED SOMEONE WITH KRISTIN'S SKILL SET AND EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO SHEPHERD THAT ACROSS THE LINE FOR US. NOW, WE ARE LOOKING BACK, WE STILL HAVE THE STAFF THAT WE HAD BEFORE, THAT IS 100% TRUE. THE POSITION WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE -- WE CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT I WENT BACK WITH MANAGER BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WAS FAMILIAR TO EVERYONE. SUPERVISOR, YOU CAN CALL IT THAT. THE POINT IS TO TAKE THE SENIOR PERSON, WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH IT ALL AND HAS BASICALLY FILLED IN ALL OF THESE OTHER TIMES AND HAS THE SKILL SET TO DO THE SCHEDULES, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE THING GOING ON, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT A POSITION THAT EXISTS FOR THE OVERALL SUPPORT

OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. >> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY TOO, AS A LIBRARY DIRECT OR, WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS I WAS TALKING ABOUT, TALKING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, VISITING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, VISITING WITH THE PARENT AND FAMILY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST, TALKING WITH THE RESOURCE CENTER, I AM ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS , OR I WILL BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE OUR MANAGER WILL HANDLE THE DAY TO DAY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS IN THE LIBRARY.

>> ALL RIGHT. IT SEEMS ODD IN A CITY THIS SIZE TO HAVE A TWO

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WORK WITH ANYBODY. >> I COME FROM EDUCATION, I WORKED 20 YEARS IN EDUCATION WITH ISD. I KNOW THAT SIDE, IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THE ISD. EIGHT -- MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SHARE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN PIGGYBACK OFF OF PROGRAMMING. I SPOKE WITH THE ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST AND THEY HAVE A PROGRAM COMING UP FOR FIRST-GRADERS FOR ALL OF THE KIDS GET THE STUFFY, READING PROGRAM PARTNER. ISD, MAYBE HAVE A SLEEP OVER SESSION IN THE LIBRARY, SOMETHING FUN THAT WE CAN PARTNER THE TWO SO THE STUDENTS ARE USING LIBRARY AFTER SCHOOL, DURING THIS SUMMER, SO THEY ARE UTILIZING BOTH RESOURCES. ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> NO, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I TOLD YOU --

>> THAT IS MY WING MAN OVER THERE.

>> WE WILL SEE IF IT HAPPENS, TOO.

>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU, CHIEF .

>> HE IS PROBABLY BACK THERE PLAYING ON HIS PHONE OR

SOMETHING. >> GOOD MORNING, NOW, COUNSEL.

DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, AT THE TOP OF OUR SLIDE, YOU SEE OUR GOALS FOR THIS YEAR. OUR VALUE ADDS, WE ARE INHERITING SPECIAL EVENTS ARE LOOKING TO ADDING CULTURAL EVENTS, MEMORIAL PARADE, CHRISTMAS DECOR WITH THE WALKING LIGHT-RAIL. AS YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGIC PILLAR WE ARE REFERRING TO IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE. OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY RANKED RESPONSES TO QUESTION 30, IT WAS RANKED NUMBER TWO IS WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. IT RECEIVED THE SECOND MOST VOTES, OUR MOST RECENT MASTER PLAN HAD AN OPTION OF WHAT TYPE OF EVENTS PEOPLE WANT AND SPECIAL EVENTS RANKED AT NUMBER ONE.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GETTING OUR INPUT AND DRIVING THESE.

THOSE ARE THE CULTURAL FESTIVALS, MEMORIAL PARADE AND THE WALKING LIGHT TRADE -- THEY ARE COMING OUT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK. THE GREEN TRAILER , THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE TWO ENCLOSED TRAILER EQUIPPED WITH LAWN AND CLEANUP TOOLS THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR WAY AND STORM RECOVERY PROCESS. EACH TRAILER WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH GASOLINE AS WELL AS SUPPLIES THAT ARE GENERALLY NEEDED FOR CLEANUPS. TRASH CANS, STUFF LIKE THAT. ADDITIONAL REQUESTS IS THE DOWNTOWN IRRIGATION PLAN. THIS IS TO REPLACE THE OUTDATED IRRIGATION 616 TO WEST, THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS OVER 10 YEARS OLD. HAS LEAKS IN IT. NEW SYSTEM COMES WITH A SMART CONTROLLER, RAIN CENTERS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS WILL ENHANCE THE ARSENIC AND THE APPEAL OF DOWNTOWN. THE NEXT ONE IS A MULTI FUNCTIONAL -- THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BUY

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>> I HAVE HEARD IT ASKED. IS THERE A DUPLICATION OF EFFORT BETWEEN WHAT PARKS DOES AND WITH WHAT THE YMCA DOES? COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT DUPLICATION OF EFFORT IS THERE AND WHAT DUPLICATION OF SERVICES ARE THERE, AND MY WE HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT AND WHY THEY ARE NECESSARY OR IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO COMBINE FORCES AND WORK TOGETHER?

>> I THINK THERE ARE ONLY THREE AREAS WHERE WE DUPLICATE SERVICES. ONE OF THOSE IS A DADDY/DAUGHTER DANCE, USUALLY HOST THERE IS AROUND VALENTINE'S DAY, WE HOST HOURS ON FATHER'S DAY. IT IS DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR, I BELIEVE THE SAME THING IS DONE FOR MOTHER/SON. OBVIOUSLY, THE BIG ONE IS THE SUMMER CAMPS. HAVING MORE SOURCES OUT THERE WILL NOT NECESSARILY A BAD BAD THING. WE WANT TO TRY TO STAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, IF WE CAN, AND LET THEM HAVE THE SOUTH SIDE SO WE ARE COLLABORATING WHERE PEOPLE CAN

GO BASED ON WHERE THEY LIVE. >> THERE IS MORE DEMAND FOR SUMMER CAMPS THAN EITHER ONE --

>> THEY HAVE 500 ON THE WAITLIST -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR WAITLIST WAS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> YES.

>> THERE IT IS. >>

>> 40% OF THE BUDGET. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I COME BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THE VALUE ADDED NEEDS WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED FTES, WE HAVE A CRIME ANALYST. WHEN I GOT TO THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT IN 2022, WE DID AN ASSESSMENT AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE SAW THAT WERE LACKING AND AN ANALYST WAS ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS. SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK, IT IS CREATING REPORTS LIKE OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT OR SOME OF THE OTHER MANDATORY REPORTING WE HAVE TO DO. IT IS MORE THAN THAT. IT HELPS US TO PROVIDE DATA-DRIVEN INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT IS GOING ON. GEOSPATIAL DATA RELATED TO SATELLITES, CELL PHONE DATA, GAPS THAT MAY EXIST CURRENTLY. THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON IN OUR AREA RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE ELEMENTS OF CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS MOVING AROUND. HAVING A CRIME ANALYST GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION, ON WHAT THE TRENDS ARE AND WHAT THE MOVEMENTS ARE AND THE THINGS WE ARE TO LOOK FOR SO WE CAN MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT PULLING UP ON A VEHICLE BLIND AND NOT HAVING THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND WE ARE LEARNING THERE IS SO MUCH MOVE IN AND INFORMATION OUT THERE AND WE ARE DOING THAT IN OUR DEPARTMENT BUT DOING IT IN A BUCKET THAT IS THE COMMAND STAFF, BUCKET THAT IS CIVILIANS AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE IT. HOW DO YOU EXTRAPOLATE

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THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR POSITION, WE ARE WANTING TO ADD THAT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CASES SHE PROVIDES, SHE IS DOING TRAUMA ADVOCACY, HELPING WITH CRIME FIT COMES, COMPENSATION, VICTIMS OF CRIMES HERE OR OTHER PLACES, GETTING THEM CONNECTED WITH RESOURCES, BEING FOLLOW-UP SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND BEING ADVOCATES FOR THEM. SHE HAS A CASELOAD OF 40 TO 45 CASES PER MONTH AND THAT IS ONE INDIVIDUAL. YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS MANY TIMES, THEY DO IT AND DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND NOT SAYING OUCH. AT SOME POINT, IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING. SOMETIMES I HAVE LEARNED, WHEN PEOPLE WILL BURN OUT, IT IS QUICK FOR THEM TO SAY PEACE OUT. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT TO BE AS AN ORGANIZATION. ALSO WITH OUR CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST, THAT POSITION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT YOU WILL FIND THEY WORK WELL TOGETHER. IT'S LIKE THE SAYING, YOU GO DOWN IN THE WELL OR HOLD THE ROPE FOR THE ONE GOING DOWN BUT EITHER WAY, THERE WILL BE SCARS ON YOUR HANDS. THEY'RE WORKING WITH A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT OVERLAPS IN THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE. THE SPECIALIST , I THINK SHE STARTED IN FEBRUARY AND HAS OVER 120 PLUS CASES THAT SHE PROVIDES SUPPORT FOR. SHE PROVIDES ONGOING SUPPORT, CASE MANAGEMENT, SERVES AS A LIAISON FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE SOCIAL, BEHAVIORAL, SUBSTANCE ISSUES. SHE SERVES AS A LIAISON TO MAKE SURE SHE IS NOT ONLY PROVIDING THE SUPPORT HERE, IF THERE IS A CRITICAL ENTITY AND A HOME, IF YOU HAVE A PERSON IN CRISIS, SOMETIMES THAT CAN MIMIC CRIMINALITY. IF AN OFFICER IS UNAWARE, THEY COULD MISINTERPRET. THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS MAYBE SUICIDAL IDEATION BUT THEY ARE NOT A THREAT TO OTHERS, IT GIVES OFFICERS A WAY THAT THEY CAN RESPOND TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING PROPER RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS A POSITION THAT IS LABOR-INTENSIVE. SHE MAY HAVE 25 CASES A MONTH, THAT MAY SOUND LIKE IT IS NOT THAT BAD, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE ONE CASE IN YOU CLOSE THE BOOK. THERE IS ONGOING SUPPORT. NOT ONLY TO THE INDIVIDUAL BUT THE FAMILY AND THE SUPPORT SERVICES THERE RECEIVING THEIR CARE. SHE HELPS US HELP THOSE WHO ARE IN ACTUAL CRISIS THEY CAN GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED. THERE IS SO MUCH SUPPORT WE ARE FINDING IN THE TWO POSITIONS. THAT IS WHY WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE ANOTHER ADDED VALUE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE VALUE ADDS. AND TO CREATE OUR OWN HONOR GUARD HELPS US TO

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EXCEEDED THEIR LIFE. >> WE OWN A PROPERLY -- PROPERTY THAT WE ARE RELEASING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE NO LONGER USING THAT FACILITY SO IT WAS LEGAL TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY REPURPOSED BACK TO THE CITY AND IT WAS USED FOR THEIR AD AND THEIR ANIMALS , WE CALL IT FFA , IT WAS USED FOR THAT AND SO IT HAS THE REALLY GOOD BONES WERE BUILDING THAT OUT AND ALSO HAS OFFICE SPACE, SOME WE NEED IF WE HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL MOVE OUT TO THAT SPACE AND FACILITY, WE ARE ABLE TO HOUSE ANIMALS MUCH BETTER. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD. ALSO A CONNEX BOX OFFICE SPACE IS SOMETHING WE REQUESTED TO BE ABLE TO USED TO A DAD -- ADD ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACES. FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING MY OFFICE AND CUTTING IT IN HALF TO GET AN ADDITIONAL OFFICE. UTILIZING THE COMMAND STAFF ROOM TO ADD CUTICLES PRIMS FACING THE LAST THING WAS TWO SPECIALIZED DRONES. HERE SEEN THE BENEFIT OF THE CURRENT DRONE PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED IN OUR DEPARTMENT UNDER CORBEL CARPENTER AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL WE REQUEST, ONE IS AN ADDITIONAL EXTERIOR DRONE , ONE THAT WE CAN USE OUTSIDE, A MORE MODERN ONE AND HAS A LOT LONGER LIGHT TIME AND ALSO GIVES US THE BANDWIDTH TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE TWO DRONE PILOTS WORKING TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINTS ARENA HAVING TO CALL ONE IN THAT WE ARE HAVING TO DO HIM WHEN THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE NEED THAT SUPPORT ALSO IF YOU HAVE TWO ELSE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE OF THE SAME TIME IF ONE BATTERY IS STARTING TO WANE , YOU CAN PUT THE OTHER UP. THE OTHER IS AN INTERIOR DRONE DESIGN FOR BEING INSIDE OF

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YOU MAY HAVE. >> I WILL TELL YOU LITERALLY I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE EARLIER TODAY AND I SAID IF WE HAD THESE THREE IT'S LIKE ASKING ME OKAY, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE BREAD OR WATER. THEY'RE BOTH EXTREMELY VALUABLE IN BOTH SOMETHING YOU REALLY NEED , BUT IF I HAD TO SAY OUT OF THOSE THREE WHICH WHAT I HAVE TO GO WITH RIGHT NOW I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE CLIMATE ANALYST AND THAT IS BECAUSE THAT SOLUTION -- WE ARE MISSING SO MUCH BY NOT HAVING THAT. WE HAVE THE SEE INTEL AS THE CENTER. ALSO WHAT THE TRENDS ALREADY BURGLARIES HAPPENING IN RETAIL SET. FOR EXAMPLE WE HAD A SITUATION AND A RECENT BOARD MEETING WHERE SERGEANT CODY LONG WAS HERE AND WE HAD A PURSUIT WITH A PERSON THAT HAD A LONG , EXTENSIVE CRIMINAL HISTORY AND HE HAD TO GET ON HIS COMPUTER AND PULL INFORMATION ON THE VEHICLE TO FIND OUT WHO THE POTENTIAL OWNER OF THE VEHICLE WAS. HE FOUNDED THE ADDRESS AND HE WENT AND PULLED AN IMAGE OF THIS PERSON TO CONFIRM WITH THE OFFICER INVOLVED TO DETERMINE IF THIS WAS THE PERSON YOU WERE SEEING SO THIS GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO POSITIVELY IDENTIFY THIS PERSON IN REAL TIME SO THAT WE COULD DISENGAGE BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A PURSUIT THAT WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO DISENGAGE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY IDENTIFY WHO THIS PERSON WAS , SO THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT THESE CRIME ANALYSTS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MAXIMIZE -- MAXIMIZES OUR EFFECTIVENESS IN THIS WAS THROUGH THEM DOING WHAT THEY DID AND AGAIN WE DO IT , THERE IS A SAYING, FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT, WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE IT IS ALL WE CAN DO, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THAT BILL AND THEY ARE PULLING IN THAT INFORMATION IT IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER BEYOND WHAT YOU COULD IMAGINE. IF I HAD TO GO WITHOUT I WOULD DO WITHOUT THE CRIME ANALYST AND VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR AND REVIEW SOME OF OUR OFFICERS OR WHATEVER COULD TO HELP SUPPORT THE CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALISTS UNTIL WE CAN GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS SHE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ENERGY THAN HAVING TO HAVE CARRIED THAT LOAD -- YES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR US. THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOMEBODY -- RELIEF TO THE CURRENT ASSISTANT COORDINATOR AND IT WOULD ALLOW OUR CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT SHE'S DOING AND ASKED TO HELP FILL IN THE GAP WHERE WE CAN AS BEST WE CAN.

>> DRONES, OUTDOOR OR INDOOR ? >> I WOULD GO WITH THE OUTDOOR BECAUSE SO MUCH MORE OF OUR STUFF IS OUTDOOR AND IT WOULD PROVIDE ADDED VALUE AND PLUS WE CAN PROVIDE IT FROM ONE SHIFT

UNTIL TWO SHIFTS. >> SO WITH THIS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GUESS THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF YOUR CURRENT SITUATION. THE FACILITY THAT YOU ARE IN I GUESS HAS AC ISSUES THAT POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET. AND THEN MEETING EXTRA SPACE , BUT PUTTING YOU ALL IN A -- SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE CURRENT WORK ENVIRONMENT OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE FIELD AND WORKING BUT THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING WORKING I GUESS CAN YOU SPEAK MORE ON THAT? ADAPTING AND HOW THIS KIND OF WOULD HELP ?

>> YES, MA'AM AND I HAVE HEARD FOR YEARS STARTING IN LAW

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>> THANK YOU. SPEAK -- >> I DON'T THINK MAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT IS ANYTHING A TAXPAYER WOULD WANT TO HEAR. I WOULD HOPE A TAXPAYER WOULD NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT ESPECIALLY COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF JONES AND TALK TO ME ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CHIEF JONES TALKED ABOUT. HE SEES THAT AS SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE RISE AND TALKING ABOUT THE CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALISTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITHOUT BUT HEARING ALSO THAT MENTAL HEALTH CALLS AND CASES ARE ON THE RISE , THAT IS CONCERNING AS WELL SO UNDERSTANDING THAT A THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THAT POLICE OFFICERS , YOU KNOW, MULTIFACETED, BUT MENTAL HEALTH CASES ON THE RISE , THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE EQUIPPED AT HANDLING AND SELF NOT HEARING THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO WITHOUT THAT CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST, THAT COULD BE CONCERNING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THIS CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST WOULD BRING IF NOT PROVIDED.

>> AND TO CLARIFY FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CRIME ANALYST. WE CAN PRETEND TO BE STATISTICIANS WE ARE NOT AND SO WE USE WHAT WE CAN WHILE WE CAN UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO SAY WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE ONE WE WOULD NEED, BUT KNOWING HOW MUCH THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CRIME ANALYSTS AND FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT UNITS IN THE DEPARTMENT INSTANTLY , WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT AND THAT'S WHY IF YOU ASKED THE STAFF THEY WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. IT IS HARD AND THE REASON BEING IS WE HAVE A CRISIS FOR A SPECIALIST WHO CURRENTLY HANDLES THE SITUATION -- THE CASES THAT SHE HAS WHAT SHE IS DOING IN THE VOLUME OF CALLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT SUSTAINABLE LONG-TERM BUT WE DO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT REPORT AND YOU'RE HOPING TO GET ONE OF

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THERE IS A NEED AND ONCE WE CREATED THAT DEPARTMENT , THE NEED MANIFESTED ITSELF BECAUSE THE BLINDS WERE OPEN AND YOU SAW AND DIDN'T REALIZE. HAVING THAT CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST, BY SAYING THAT I THE CRIME ANALYST IS ONE I WILL GO WITH IS IN NO WAY DIMINISHING THE VALUE OF THAT ROLE BECAUSE IT IS A TREMENDOUS ROLE IN THERE HELPING INDIVIDUALS DAILY.

THERE HELPING INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES DAILY AND THE NEED IS THERE AND HAVING -- IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE MORE YOU HAVE THE MORE YOU START TO REALIZE THE TRUE NEED AND IMPACT THAT THEY

ARE MAKING SO -- >> CHIEF, THE ONE THING I HAD NOT HEARD YOU MENTIONED WHICH WAS A POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WHEN WE TALKED, RIGHT NOW EACH ONE OF THESE FOLKS WHILE THEY ARE HELPING EACH OTHER ARE IN THE FOXHOLE SO WHICH MEANS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND I'M THE MENTAL HEALTH PERSON I'M BASICALLY ON CALL ALL THE TIME, SO THE EXTRA POSITION NOT ONLY HELPS WITH THE CASELOAD BUT ALSO HELPS TAKE OFF SOME OF THE STRESS THAT THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRACKED INTO THIS TYPE OF WORK PUT ON THEMSELVES.

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT AND 100% CORRECT AND OUR OFFICERS ARE CALLING OUR VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR'S AT NIGHT ON TRAGEDIES LIKE THE ONE WE HAD OVER THE WEEKEND. IN THE EVENINGS. THEY'RE CALLING OUR CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALISTS WERE HELPING TO FIND FACILITIES THAT THEY CAN NAVIGATE AND GET BEDBOARD DOZING CRISIS. THEY NEED IS HERE AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE QUALITY OF THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE ON A BRICK ASSISTANCE AND CRIME SUPPORT -- CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST, WE ARE PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO IN THE QUALITY THAT THEY BRING, WE JUST KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE WORK THAN THE TWO OF THEM CAN DO ALONE FOR LONG TERM THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE

PROPOSING THIS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> IN QUEUE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD SAY THE CRIME ANALYST FIRST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BUT I DO CONSIDER THOSE TWO POSITIONS TO BE CRITICAL POSITIONS. I THINK I DON'T WANT TO USE THE D WORD BUT RECOGNITION AND THAT MOVEMENT STARTED WAS WELL NEED MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES. THE MISTAKE WAS THINKING THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE RESOURCES AWAY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE NEED TO ADD THOSE RESOURCES ON TOP OF IT. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ADD THOSE RESOURCES SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND THEY CAN DO WITH THEY NEED TO DO AND IT'S DONE IN A SAFE MANNER AND SERVES THE COMMUNITY AND MEETS THE NEED. I THINK THOSE ARE VERY CRITICAL POSITIONS. YOU DON'T NEED THEM ON CALL 24 SEVEN. I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING TIME OF THIS REVIEW A TIP AND IF YOU CHANGE YOUR DEPARTMENT NAME TO THE AWESOME POLICE WHO COULD HAVE BEEN DONE THREE HOURS AGO.

>> THANK YOU SIR . >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU STILL HAVE STREETS , UTILITIES .

>> READ THEM OFF, LAURA. >> STREETS AND DRAINAGE.

STRATEGIC OPERATIONS. PUBLIC WORKS ADMIN.

>> SEEING RICK UP HERE IS LIKE WATCHING ROCKY.

>> I ONLY HAVE THREE MORE TO GO.

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>> RICK CORONADO, PUBLIC WORKS AND WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT STREETS AND DRAINAGE. THIS DIVISION AND NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET HITS MULTIPLE WALL STRATEGIC OBJECT TIPS AS THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTED UP HERE. THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A 2.1 MILLION CONTINUATION OR ANNUAL BUDGET. THAT WOULD HELP ROTATE EXISTING ROADS AND ALSO -- THEN ANY NEW ROADS TO COME INTO THE TERRITORY. IN ADDITION TO THAT THAT INCLUDES SIDEWALK REPAIRS AS A VALUE ADD WHICH WOULD BE TIED TO THE FTE PROPOSALS WHICH YOU HAVE LISTED THERE, A TOTAL OF FOUR POSITIONS, STREET TECH 1 WHICH IS THE ENTRY LEVEL. STREET TECH TO, TO THOSE AND THEN -- MANAGE A DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALK CREW. THAT IS THE PROPOSAL ON THE FTE STREETS ALSO INCLUDES EQUIPMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT INCLUDING MINI EXCAVATOR AND A DUMP TRUNK -- TRUCK FOR THAT CREW OR TEAM. IN ADDITION TO THAT VALUE ADDS THERE WILL BE BUDGETING FOR SIGNAL OPERATIONS IN ANTICIPATION OF HAVING ANY INTERSECTIONS TO MANAGE -- ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IS JUST TO CONTINUE WITH THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WHICH IS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND SEALANTS OF SOME OF THE ROADS AND THEN A DRUM ROLLER WHICH WE HAVE HAD TO LEASE SOME OF THESE LARGER DRUM BOILERS JUST TO DO SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE WORK. WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE VALUE ADDS IN THE POSITIONS PROPOSED. I WILL OPEN UP TO ANY

QUESTIONS. >> SO, MY BIG THING ON THIS AND THIS IS WHY -- ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO REALLY BE CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC IS THAT WE NEED TO DO D.C. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PRICES WILL BE ASTRONOMICAL LATER. IF WE DON'T DO THE MAINTENANCE WE WILL HAVE ROAD FAILURES MUCH FASTER. OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THINK WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND THIS , PERHAPS THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS YOU DO THAT. YES, THIS IS A NEEDED EXPENSE. IT'LL COST ASSISTANCE WHICH WILL LONG-TERM

BE A LOT MORE MONEY. >> I THINK THIS PROGRAM IS BUILT AROUND KEEPING GOOD ROADS GOOD AND JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE INVENTORY IN THE STREETS ARE NEW AND IN GOOD CONDITION. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME ROADS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH HIGHER COST, BUT IN ORDER TO CRACK SEAL OR JUST PUT A CEILING DOWN OR JUST PRESERVE GOOD ROADS, THAT'S WHAT THIS BUDGET IS BUILT AROUND, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MODEL MOVING FORWARD IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN ONLY NEW INVENTORY COMING IN BUT EXISTING TO CONTINUE TO

KEEP -- >> AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, HE HAD A THIRD-PARTY COMPANY WHO DID A STUDY AND CHECKED ON ROADS AND THEY CAME OUT WITH THAT FUNDING FIVE-YEAR PLAN SO HE DIDN'T JUST THOUGH A NUMBER ON THE WALL AND SAID THIS. IN LIGHT OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE SHOWING UP IN THE BUDGET IS BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE AND DONE PROFESSIONAL STUDIES BECAUSE WE HAVE LAYPEOPLE ELECTED AND WE HAVE STUDIES TO BE DONE WHAT ARE WE REALLY DOING AS A CITY. THIS WAS ONE

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OF THEM. >> JUST CLARIFY THIS CREW OF FOUR PEOPLE WOULD BE TAKING ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE I GUESS PROJECT LIST FOR THE MOST PART I GUESS PENDING CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT MAY BE KIND OF OUT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW --

>> SO LET ME CLARIFY. THE PROPOSED FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD BE DEDICATED MORE TOWARD DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALKS. IN PARTICULAR, OLD TOWN WOULD BE ONE OF THE WORST AREAS AND THAT INCLUDED SOME OF THE AREA THAT COMES WITH THAT. OBVIOUSLY THEY USE OTHER EQUIPMENT AS WELL, BUT THEY WOULD BE FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. THEY WOULD BE PART OF THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE PONDS AS WELL. THAT IS JUST KIND OF A GROWING FOCUS. IF I UTILIZE THE STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT EXISTS , THINKING COUNSEL FOR ALL THESE APPROVALS, WE ACTUALLY ALMOST ARE COMPLETELY FULL. WE LACK ONE VACANT SEAT THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF INTERNAL PROMOTION.

THAT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO A LOT OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE. ALSO REVEALED THE ROADS , A CRACKED CEILING, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS.

>> WHAT DOES OUR DRAINAGE SITUATION LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS COMPARED TO OR NOT COMPARED TO, BUT BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT IS OUR DRAINAGE SITUATION LOOKING

LIKE? >> A LOT OF IT RIGHT NOW IS REACTIVE AND SO IT WILL BE SPOT REPAIRS AND I WILL EXPAND ON NOT ONLY THE DITCHES BUT WE RECENTLY HAVE HAD AT LEAST TWO FAILURE STORM DRAINS AND YOU WILL TAKE THE FOCUS OF THIS CREW TO GO FIX A STORM DRAIN THAT HAS COLLAPSED.

>> THE STORM DRAIN COLLAPSING. WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF

THAT? >> AN IMPASSABLE ROAD. THIS WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO OR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO WHERE WE HAD A SECTION OR SEVERAL SEGMENT OF PIPE COLLAPSE SO THAT INVOLVED IN MASTICATION AND HOW TO RECTIFY THAT NEED AND THEN WE PROBABLY HAD TO ORDER MATERIALS, BUT THAT WAS A ROAD CLOSURE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL WEEKS UNTIL WE GOT MATERIAL. SO PART OF THE PLAN IS TO HAVE MORE DEDICATED CRUISE JUST FOR THOSE TYPES OF SPOT REPAIRS, BUT ALSO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE CLEARING ALL THE DITCHES.

THERE ARE SOME CULVERTS THAT ARE PRETTY CLOGGED AND SOME OF IT MAY BE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES AND SOME MAY BE FOR FLOODING, YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE COLLAPSED CULVERTS THAT HAVE TO BE CLEARED AND REBUILT.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF NEEDS, IS JUST GETTING STARTED IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT FOCUS AND WE WILL BUILD OVER TIME.

>> WAS THAT A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE THIRD-PARTY COMPANY THAT LOOK AT OUR ROADS?

>> THEY DID NOT DO AN ASSESSMENT OF DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

THE THIRD PARTY. THAT WAS MAINLY THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT. IT WAS A PAVEMENT STUDY. THEY DID A GAP ANALYSIS FOR SIDEWALKS THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL VALUE THAT ADDED TO THEIR PROJECT. THEY DID NOT DO ANY DRAINAGE.

>> SO THEN IS THIS RECOMMENDATION JUST COMING FROM

YOU? >> NO, THIS ALSO COMES FROM OUR WORKSHOPS AND IDENTIFYING WHAT SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN AND IT'S KIND OF THE PART OF ALSO IN OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WHO IS IDENTIFYING THESE THROUGH THAT AS WELL SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE AREAS THAT THIS --

>> DO WE HAVE CURRENT DISHES THAT ARE ON THE VERGE OF THESE

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>> >> WE JUST HIRED A COMPANY THAT WILL DO SOME CAMERA INSPECTIONS. AND SO THERE IS A SUBDIVISION WHERE WE WILL DO SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND STREET OF INSPECTIONS OF 48 TO 20 INCH STORM WATER PIPING SO THERE IS SOME INVESTIGATION THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH JUST AS A RESULT OF THAT COLLAPSED TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE

ANY OTHER SAFETY ISSUES. >> SO THE IMMEDIATE NEED IS

THERE? >> THERE IS A NEED TO INVEST IN PREVENTATIVE MEASURES AS WELL AS REACTIVE MEASURES.

>> THANK YOU . >> QUESTION ON SIDEWALKS. WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN AND I HAVEN'T SEEN -- HOW DO WE SAVE MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON SIDEWALKS IF WE HAVE A CREW? DO WE HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE?

>> LET'S SEE HERE. IN THE SIDEWALKS I BELIEVE FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT BUDGET SO VEILED SIDEWALKS WILL GO THROUGH AND HAVE REPLACEMENT AND I THINK THIS YEAR WE DID AT LEAST 7000 SQUARE FEET OF SIDEWALK REPLACEMENTS AND NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSAL IS TO TRY TO MAYBE EVEN DOUBLE THAT IF WE DO SOME OF THAT IN-HOUSE THAT IT WILL OFF SOME OF THAT CONTRACTOR WORK THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. OR EXTEND THE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK FOR OUR PLACE.

>> WHAT ABOUT LAKESIDE VERY HAVE NEW SIDEWALKS GOING IN.

>> THAT WILL BE UNDER THE CIP PROGRAM. THIS IS STRICTLY THE O

AND M BUDGET. >> SO THEY WON'T HAVE THE

CAPACITY TO DO NEW SIDEWALKS? >> THEY CAN. THAT CREW CAN IF THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO NEW SIDEWALKS, THAT WOULD BE A

PERFECT TARGET. >> THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF WANTED TO SEE, THE COST BENEFIT. I UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THEY CAN DO, BUT WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT?

>> WE NEED TO TAKE EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT.

>> WHEN I TALKED TO JAMES I SAID HOW MUCH SIDEWALK CAN FOR PEOPLE LAY IN ONE WEEK. HOW MANY SCURVY? MY FEAR IS AND IT IS LATE TO BE UNARTICULATED, BUT YOU CAN HIRE FOR PEOPLE THEY CAN OUTWORK THE MONEY WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT. YOU CAN DRIVE AROUND AND SEE THERE IS NEED FOR SIDEWALK EVERYWHERE.

>> LET'S SAY WE WOULD RUN OUT OF MATERIAL.

>> I WOULD LIKE WHAT TO KNOW WHAT CAN FOR PEOPLE DO? IF YOU COME BACK AND THEY SAY FOUR MONTHS OR 7000 LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK, THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS? WE ONLY HAVE ONE .3 MILLION IN DRAINAGE. HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN THEY DO AND MY FEAR IS WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM ENOUGH RESOURCES TO KEEP THEM BUSY AND IT GOES WITH WHAT YOU

ARE SAYING. >> HOW-TOS EVERYTHING AT UP IN THE END? IS THIS THE BEST WAY TO DO THE WORK? I DON'T KNOW.

>> RICK, YOU ARE ASKING FOR THIS AND YOU FEEL THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. CAN YOU ARTICULATE THAT FOR US IF NOT

TONIGHT IN THE FUTURE? >> WELL I WILL START OFF WITH A PRIMARY GOAL FOR THIS CREW IS DRAINAGE AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS DRAINAGE IN OLD TOWN, PROBABLY ONE OF THE PRIORITY AREAS. WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF UNDERGROUND STORM DRAINS THAT

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THAT'S NOT A CONCERN. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE WANT TO BUDGET OVER TIME , HOW MUCH WE WANT TO COMPLETE. I THINK THAT IS THE MAIN QUESTION I AM NOT ASKING TO INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR SIDEWALKS AND REPLACEMENT , IT MAY BE THAT WE OFFSET THAT MATERIAL WITH THE LABOR TO DO MORE FOOTAGE. SO I THINK IT IS A MATTER OF JUST STARTING THAT PROGRAM AND ENSURING IT WILL CONTINUE ON BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A SHORTAGE WORK ON ANY OF THIS WHETHER IT'S AGE MATERIAL FOR AGING

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> I THINK THE CONCERN IS HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU NEED EVERY YEAR TO KEEP THOSE GUYS BUSY? THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY BASED ON THE WAY THEY CAN LAY SIDEWALK WE NEED $5.5 MILLION IS HERE TO KEEP THEM BUSY. FOR ME THE QUESTION IS IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT PART TIME BECAUSE AGAIN, -- WE CAN SIT THERE AND KEEP SOMEONE BUSY AT ALL TIME. YES, THE WORK IS THERE, BUT WE HAVE THE MONEY

AND THE RESOURCES? >> OTHERWISE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, NOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM? I THINK FOR ME THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. HOW MUCH YOU NEED TO KEEP THEM

BUSY. >> FROM THIS NEXT PROPOSAL, IT ACTUALLY STAYED THE SAME OTHER THAN ADDING THE POSITIONS. THE MATERIALS IN THE DRAINAGE AND THE SIDEWALKS I THINK IS -- 150,000 AND SO SOME OF THAT IS ALREADY CONTRACTED WORK AND SO ANY MATERIALS WE JUST BE OFFSET WITH INTERNAL RESOURCES SAID OF

CONTRACTED OUT. >> IT'S LATE, I WILL HELP HIM.

>> I UNDERSTAND. 150 GRAND. KNOCKING THAT ARE IN THREE

MONTHS. >> THERE IS NO INVESTMENT IN OLD TOWN HATO, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MOVEMENT ON THE ROADS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DRAINS, THE DITCHES , THE PARKING SITUATIONS, SIDEWALKS, IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT TO START TO ADDRESS THAT. WE STARTED ADDRESSING LIVE OAK BUT A FEW OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON COUNSEL FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND STILL NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AND IT CAN CAN YOU REALLY GET KICKED DOWN THE ROAD BY CITY COUNCIL TO NOT ADDRESS THIS AREA AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS LIKE THIS NEXT STEP FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE AT LEAST THE CITY IS PROVIDING DITCH MAINTENANCE, THEY ARE REPAIRING THE CULVERTS. SO WITH THIS THIS IS A SERVICE BEING PROVIDED TO THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACTUAL SOLID COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING THE SAFETY OF THE AREA, THE AREA, PATHWAYS IMPART . THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD A LEASE IS THERE IN THE NEXT SAY THREE YEARS IT CAN KIND OF AT LEAST TAKE A FEW STEPS FORWARD

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INSTEAD OF THE ABSOLUTE -- >> AND THIS IS WHY WE ARE HAVING A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I WANT US TO HAVE A STRATEGY AND NOT PICK AND CHOOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AND NOT COVER EVERY THING. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE WHOLE REALITY OF THE PROBLEMS THERE AND I HAVE A STRATEGY ON HOW WE CAN ATTACK THEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIX THEM ALL. CANNOT REBUILD THEM ALL TO THE STANDARD OF CURRENT CONSTRUCTION ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE IT'S JUST INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO , THINGS TO MAKE IT DRIVABLE AND LIVABLE. HAVING A WHOLE WORKSHOP ON THAT IS UP FOR IT.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE EXACTLY, BUT IT IS COMING UP.

>> THIS IS A BIG TICKET ITEM BUT IT WILL COME AT A COST AND THE COST IS TO THE RESIDENCE OF -- AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN OLD TOWN. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

>>

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AM DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS FOR THE RECORD. BEFORE I GO INTO THE VALUE ADDS I WANTED TO GIVE JUST PICKED DEPARTMENT SUMMARY . THE STRATEGIC OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT NEWLY FORMED THIS YEAR COLLABORATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE AND EXECUTE INNOVATION AND EFFICIENCY, OFFER BUDGET GUIDANCE AND SET KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, KPIS FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THE DEPARTMENT MANAGERS THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE , COMMUNICATIONS WHICH ARE ALL CRUCIAL FOR EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS IN MANAGEMENT. GREAT VALUE ADDS , THE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS OF THE CREATION AND ONGOING INFLAMMATION OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS PASSED I BELIEVE JUNE 28TH .

OVERSEAS COMMUNICATIONS IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENT THAN THE ASK IN THE BUDGET. THE ONLY ASK IN THE BUDGET IS THE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT CONSULTING, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS IS PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT FOR THE ORGANIZATION, OFFERING DUAL EMPLOYEES TO HELP DEVELOP KPIS FOR THE ORGANIZATION . HOW I CURRENTLY SEE THIS HAPPENING IS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PASSED THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN , NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE PILLARS THIS YEAR IN SPECIFIC SECTORS. SOMETHING NEW YOU HAVE NOTICED IN THE BUDGET BUCKET, THE POWERPOINT AS DEPARTMENT GOALS TIED TO A ACTIVES AND MEASURING THOSE OBJECTIVES TO KPIS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CONSULTANT COME IN AND HELP DEVELOP THAT SIMILAR TO AN AUDIT THAT WE HAVE FINANCE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE CONSISTENTLY LOOKING IN BOOKS AND THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIRD-PARTY COME IN AND GIVE AN OUTSIDER PERSPECTIVE OF AREAS THAT WE SHOULD BE MEASURING. NAME HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE TERMINOLOGY LIKE THE OTHER DAY.

I WILL READ YOUR THING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE AN ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR OF THE CITY MANAGER. TO ME I HEAR STRATEGIC OPERATIONS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD CALL THE NAME DIFFERENTLY ONLY TO THEN HAVE YOU DO -- COMMUNICATIONS. I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU EVERYTHING I'M SHARING WITH JAMES BECAUSE HE SAID NOTHING I SHARE IS EVER SECRET. SO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS. I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS ADDED AND CREATIVE THIS YEAR. I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S

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>> TO SPEAK TO THAT JUST BRIEFLY THE POSITION ITSELF, DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS WAS A RE-CLASS OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS. THERE WASN'T AN -- ADDED, THE SALARY WAS CHANGE. CITY MANAGER SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND HER SCOPE ON THAT SPECIFIC POSITION AND PROVIDE MORE

INFORMATION. >> WHAT IS SO BIG -- BY THIS PUSH -- TO BE A DIRECTOR? COMMUNICATIONS IS STILL RUNNING GOOD WE STILL DON'T HAVE A DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.

WHAT DOES IT DO? WE HAD A LOT OF MANAGERS --

>> THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DIRECTOR AND A MANAGER IN THE ORGANIZATION IS THE AMOUNT OF DISCRETION, THE AMOUNT OF RISK AND POTENTIAL FOR SERVICE BUT ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR INNOVATION ON ORGANIZATION . IT'S HIGHER AT A DIRECTOR LEVEL THAT AT A MANAGERIAL LEVEL AND BY -- IN MY ROLE BY TAKING EFFECTIVELY A POSITION THAT WAS SUPPORTING MEDICATIONS AND NOW HAVING HIS SUPPORT MULTIPLE DIVISIONS INCLUDING COMMUNICATIONS, AND ACTUALLY THE PAY DID CHANGE BECAUSE IT CAME DOWN A PAY GRADE OR TWO SO IT INCREASED AMOUNT OF MONEY I WAS PAYING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFTER AND AS I LOOK IN THE ORGANIZATION AND I SEE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT FOR TO ALIGN AREAS THAT HAVE OVERLAP OR TO HAVE A REASON HAVE SIMILAR MISSIONS , THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GETTING MORE EFFICIENCIES. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS AND , YOU KNOW, FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE. THIS WASN'T A POSITION I CREATED AND THEN GAVE TO DAVID. HE COMPETED FOR THAT JOB. WE HAD EXTERNAL APPLICANTS JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH EVERY POSITION. THEY INTERVIEWED AND DAVID WAS LIKE BECAUSE HE WAS

THE BEST FOR THE JOB. >> SO, YOU HAD A COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER? COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR AND NOW YOU HAVE A STRATEGIC OPERATIONS DIRECT WHO DID THE SAME THING THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR DID PLUS OVERSEAS ,

>> I.T. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ENTITY SECRETARY.

>> YOU ARE DOING A LOT MORE FOR LESS. IT IS NOT LIKE YOU GOT A FREE PROMOTION AND PAY RAISE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIRECTOR FOR

YOUR NAME. >> THAT IS AN ACCURATE

REPRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE DIRECTORS LIKE VPS? >> THIS IS DELL. WERE NOT

TALKING ABOUT DELL. >>

>> RIGHT NOW THE HIERARCHY CHART, HAVE YOU , MATT, KATE, ANNA , AND IF I AM BEING HONEST, MATT LOOKS LIKE HE IS

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>> HE SHOULD HAVE 10, IF NOT 11.

>> I AM JUST SAYING FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART I AM USED TO BEING MORE OUT AND THIS IS ALL HEAVY ON ONE SIDE.

>> AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE SOME OF THEM NESTED UNDER OTHERS. I AM TRYING TO KEEP -- I'M NOT EXACTLY THERE YET, BUT THAT IS THE BEST SO FAR, I DID NOT WANT GO DOWN TO THE PATH OF CREATING ADDITIONAL DIRECTORS SO MY MANAGERS I'M ABLE TO VERY UNDERNEATH EXISTING POSITIONS AND HAVE THEM REPORT. I TEASE MANAGER, NOT A DIRECT , SO AND SO FORTH.

>> IF THE CITY SECRETARY BECAME A DIRECT WHAT WOULD CHANGE IN

HER ROLE? >> CHANGE IS THAT THERE ARE THE OTHER THINGS SITES JUST TO ROLL THAT SHE DOES, LIKE IN SAN MARCUS, FOR EXAMPLE. CITY SECRETARY'S -- PASSWORDS, BIRTH RECORDS AND ALL TYPES OF OTHER THINGS AND IN THAT CASE -- BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE MANAGING MULTIPLE BUDGETS AND MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND JUST FUNCTIONING AS A CITY SECRETARY

>> THE PUBLIC IS DIFFERENT. >> IT IS. I DON'T DISAGREE.

>> THESE ARE THE UTILITY FUND DIVISIONS , AN ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS THE ADMINISTRATION I RESIDE IN. SO WE HAVE HERE A VALUE ADD AND AN REQUEST TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT -- SYSTEM FOR PUBLIC WORKS. I WOULD CONSIDER MODULES EVERYTHING FROM PLEAT TO SHOW THESE TO WASTEWATER. ALSO TO ANY CUSTOMER INFORMATION THAT MAY COME FROM THE PUBLIC TO INTERFERE WITH OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM. THIS IS A HUGE LIFT AND --

>> THAT IS A KEY VALUE ADD BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE LEADERSHIP THAT HELPS GUIDE THIS TYPE OF FUNCTION AND TO MAINTAIN IT SO THERE IS A REQUEST HERE IN THE BUDGET FOR PROPOSAL FOR A FIELD -- UTILITY FIELD MANAGER THERE WOULD BE OVER NOT ONLY THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR UTILITIES BUT ALSO SUPER INTELLIGENT -- INTELLIGENCE WERE SKATER . YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE I.T. FOR OPERATIONS. THE OPERATIONS NETWORK AND SO IT HELPS TO GUIDE NOT ONLY CONTROLS FOR ALL THE WATER DISTRIBUTION PUMPS IT ALSO DOES THE SAME FUNCTION FOR TREATMENT PLANT AND THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL THAT HAS TO DO WORK. THAT IS BEING STOOD UP THIS YEAR TO TRY TO SHORE UP SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM FIELD

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FUNCTION AND ALSO IN DOING SO STANDING OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ACTUAL ASK MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE SO THIS GOES HAND-IN-HAND IN ORDER FOR US TO GET FURTHER DOWN THE LINE OF BEST PRACTICES WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT LARGE CITIES HAVE . THIS IS MORE GEARED TOWARDS A SMALLER CITY. AS THE SYSTEM GROWS YOU ADD MORE TO THAT PROGRAM IF YOU ADD MORE ASSETS SAY STORMWATER, THAT'S ANOTHER MODULE YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THE FUTURE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN TODAY BEFORE YOU GET TOO BIG AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT -- MAY KNOW, THE SPREADSHEETS AND THE EMAILS AND THE TAX AND THE CHANCE AND ALL THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD EFFICIENCY IN TRYING TO DELIVER YOUR SHARPNESS SO IT'S INTENDED TO HELP YOU DELIVER THAT SERVICE MORE EFFECTIVELY. IT IS A HEAVY LIFT BUT ALSO TO SUSTAIN THAT , THE UTILITY'S LIFE.

>> RICK, WHAT ARE THEY USING NOW AS FAR AS THE ASSET, --

>> TO MENTION EVERYTHING FROM CHATS, TEXT, PRINT SHEETS , NOT MANAGED IN SUCH A WAY THAT I CAN SAY THIS WORK ORDER IS TIED TO THIS ASSET. THERE IS MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET WORK COMPLETED . THE EASIEST WAY IS ON THE BOARD, HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND THE DAYS OF -- THERE IS A LOT OF MOBILE DEVICES SO WE CAN SEND THAT INFORMATION TO A GROUP CHAT OR AN EMAIL OR IT'S LISTED ON THE SPREADSHEET OF WHAT PROJECT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF, BUT IS NOT REALLY A MANAGED SYSTEM.

>> GO BACK TO WHAT DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. IF WE WERE TO GET HACKED , HEAVEN FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH OUR SYSTEM AND THINGS GO HAYWIRE. BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN DIFFERENT PLACES. THAT COULD BE -- THAT CAN BE LIKE THE END OF

IT? >> NO. A LOT OF NEW SYSTEMS ARE CLOUD-BASED AND SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM WHICH INCORPORATES A LOT OF SECURITY FEATURES AND BACKUP

SYSTEMS THAT IS A STANDARD -- >> WHO WOULD ALSO AS A CITY WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE MULTI FACTOR INDICATIONS AND DEFINITELY LOCKING OUR SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE MOBILE DEVICES, THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN ACCESSING THE --. THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST SECURE SYSTEM THAT WE CAN OPERATE. THAT CAN CONTROL A --. I CAN CONTROL CHEMICALS. THAT IS MORE OF HIGHER RISK ON THAT NETWORK THAT IT IS OR A WORK

ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. >> OKAY.

>> AND UTILITIES IS THE NEXT ONE.

>> EARLIER YOU ARE ASKING HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE IN THE UTILITIES? THERE'S ABOUT 20 IN TOTAL. UTILITIES CURRENTLY , THIS BUDGET CYCLE WE ARE REQUESTING TO -- WE RECENTLY

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THIS INCLUDES SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE WANT TO DO ON THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM WHICH I MENTIONED WE CURRENTLY DON'T -- WE HAVE LIMITED CAMERA SYSTEMS TO INSPECT PIPELINES AND IT IS IN RANGE AS WELL AS HOW WE CAN GET INTO SOME OF THE LARGER -- THIS WAS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A ROVER. KIND OF LIKE A ROBOT FOR AND APPLES. THAT IS ONE OF THE ASKS FOR THIS YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT I MENTIONED THAT IN OUR FLEET DISCUSSION AS WE HAD A FULL MOTOR FAILURE , THE MOTOR FAILURE ON HER VEHICLE WAS ONE THAT HAD A CRANE AND SO THAT CRANE IS USED TO LIST SOME OF THE PUMPS AND THE RELATIVE STATIONS SO THAT WAS A RISK THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT SIMILAR WORK. THIS REQUEST IS TO ENSURE WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN BILLABLE SHOULD SOMETHING GO DOWN IN ONE OF ARE YOU TOTALLY -- IN ADDITION WHAT WAS ALSO PLACED INTO THE BUDGET IS LEAK DETECTION FOR OUR CRITICAL PIPELINES INCLUDING -- AND WITH THAT I WILL OPEN UP FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY.

>> THANK YOU. >> DRUMROLL.

>> LAST ONE. >> SO I'M ON UTILITY BILLING .

THE ONLY VALUE ADD THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN THIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS A UTILITY RATE STUDY. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE WHAT OUR CURRENT RATES ARE BASED ON CURRENT

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WASTEWATER RATE. >> HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST NOW?

>> WE INCLUDED 52.5 AS OUR ESTIMATE.

>> SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS WE HAVE TO HAVE

>> THE WASTEWATER PLANT. >> WHAT I AM THINKING IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BENEFIT WE GET OUT OF A RATE STUDY, BECAUSE I AM GUESSING THEY WILL SAY WE NEED TO RAISE RATES AND IF WE KNOW WE WILL RAISE THEM $40-$50 SPENDING 50 GRAND TO TELL US, YOU COULD GO UP EVEN MORE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULDN'T WAIT ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE AGAIN IF YOU TELL ME WE WILL DO $50 PER MONTH THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, THIS STUDY WON'T MEAN ANYTHING PERSONALLY BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING

AT A $50 INCREASE. >> SO, FAIR. STAFF CAN PRETTY MUCH DO THAT. WHAT A UTILITY RATE STING DOES IS IT IT -- GOES MORE NUANCED THAN THAT. WE THROUGHOUT THIS IS HOW MUCH THE AVERAGE BILL WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT . THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO ABOUT COLLECTING THAT. YOU CAN SEE HEY, EVERYBODY WITH A METER BIGGER THAN THIS PASTE THIS MUCH AND IT'S A BIGGER NUMBER AND THEN BACK ITS WORK IN OR YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR TEARS OF USAGE SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW LIVING ALONE OR ARE WIDOWED OR THAT SORT OF STUFF, THEY DON'T USE AS MUCH WATER AS SOMEONE LIKE WATERS MORE OFTEN. THIS WILL GIVE YOU OPTIONS ON HOW YOU CAN SET RATES TO COLLECT THE CORRECT REVENUES. ARGUABLY, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TWO YEARS UNTIL THE PART OF THE PLANT TAKES IN THEN WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING THE NEXT RATE INCREASE. EITHER WAY IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO DO GREAT STUDIES. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU CAN KEEP GOING THE WAY WE ARE GOING OR WE CAN TRY TO DETERMINE THE BEST AND MOST FAIR WAY TO COLLECT THE REVENUES THAT NEED TO BE

COLLECTED. >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I BELIEVE THAT YOUR POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RATHER SEEN RATE INCREASES BEFORE LIKE NOW, SO INSTEAD OF THE $12-$18 THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED DID, YOU WOULD HAVE RATHER -- YOU WOULD'VE PREFERRED A $40 FRONT LOADING ON IT AND THEN DO A -- I'M QUITE CONFUSED ON WHY YOU ARE WILLING NOW TO CHANGE YOUR POSITION AND PUSH OUT TWO TO

THREE BACK YEARS? >> SO, IT IS LATE, I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. THE RATE STUDY DOES NOT CHANGE THE PROBLEM OF $50 A MONTH TO -- SO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

>> $50 TWO YEARS? >> IT DOESN'T CHANGE. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED. AND THE SATURDAY WHERE YOU PULL THE NUMBER FROM, IS THAT THE ONE? WE DID AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT WE DINGED. THAT RATE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE ALSO AND THAT INCLUDES CAPITAL EXPENSES WHICH EASILY COULD BE OFFSET BY HIGHER -- SO YES, THIS WOULD COME ONLINE IN ABOUT

LATE 2026 OR EARLY 2027. >> WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS, RATE STUDY DOES NOT AFFECT THE NEED OF THE NEW --

>> IT DOES NOT. >> TO HELP CLEAR THIS UP, IN MY MIND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GO $15 INCREASE, FIVE DOLLARS INCREASE . YOU SPREAD IT OUT PEOPLE CAN SPREAD IT OUT MORE .

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THINKS. >> THE RATE STUDY WOULD -- YOUR RATE STUDY WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND THEN IT WOULD BE GIVING RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BEST AUCTIONS OF HOW TO COLLECT THOSE DOLLARS. IT IS NOT JUST EVERYBODY PAYS $50 MORE $20 MORE. IT IS HEY, JAMES LIKES TO RUN HIS WATER ALL DAY LONG AND HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GREEN GRASS. HE WILL PAY 10 TIMES --

>> WE WILL PAY 50 GRAND >> IT'S NOT JUST HIGH WATER UTERUS, ALSO THE BITTER -- FOR EXAMPLE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MULTI FAMILY AND THE RESIDENTIAL. DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND MULTI FAMILY. IRRIGATION METERS VS. -- YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY EVERYBODY'S BASE RATE GOES UP AND IT IS EVENLY SPREAD, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST WAY AND IF IT IS A MULTIYEAR PHASE IN, BASICALLY ARE JUST PLAYING SOMEONE TO CRANK OUT THE NUMBERS AND SAY HERE IS HOW YOU COULD IMPLEMENT THIS AND SPREAD IT OUT. HERE'S HOW YOU COULD DO IT. SPREAD IT OUT THIS WAY TO GIVE Y'ALL OPTIONS.

>> YOUR PAYING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. TO MAKE THE SMARTEST DECISION WE CAN. SOME OF US MAY BE WILLING TO INVEST THAT MONEY SO WE KNOW WE ARE MAKING THE BEST

DECISIONS. >>

>> NO. FOR 50 GRAND I WILL ARGUE IT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE AT

1:30. >> YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU WOULD RATHER SEE IT DOWN UNTIL SEEING A BIG INCREASE YOU WOULD

RATHER LEVEL SET? >> IT IS NOT ME. A LOT OF PEOPLE I TALKED TO WOULD RATHER HAVE EVERYTHING BE MORE FLATTENED OUT IN THESE BUMPS LIKE THIS. THEY WANT TO SEE US DO THINGS -- THE THING THAT WE HAVE GOT , THE ONLY INFORMATION I HAVE AND THAT IS --. LIKE I SAID, 1:30 AND WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER TWO HOURS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN ARGUE OVER 50

GRAND. >> THE WHOLE YEAR YOU HAVE SAID THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN DO NEW REVENUE THIS YEAR AND I WOULD RATHER INCREASE TAXES 15% IS WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO NOW IN ORDER TO LEVEL LOAD THIS SOAPY DON'T GET HIT WITH 30 FOUR --. YOU SAID I WOULD RATHER AND LET'S JUST DO A TAX

INCREASE NOW. >> IF WE STICK TO NEED , NOT

WANTS. >> YOUR DEFINITION OF NEEDS AND WANTS. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS YOUR DEFINITION OF A NEED AND WANT IS DIFFERENT

THAN ANYONE ELSE'S. >>

>> OKAY. GOOD. >> WE ARE NOW READY FOR OUR

SECOND WIND. >> THANK YOU STAFF .

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> STAYING AWAY AND THEN JUST SHOWING US AND EXPLAINING WHAT THIS BUDGET IS ALL ABOUT AND WHAT EACH OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE BECAUSE YOU ARE YOUR EXPERT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. YOU WERE

ABLE TO PORTRAY THAT TO US. >> AND TO THE CITIZENS. THANK

YOU. >> AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS. IMPORTANT DATES. LET'S GO WITH THAT. IF YOU HAVE IMPORTANT DATES, REMIND EVERYONE. THIS IS A BIG GROUP EFFORT AND I SHOW YOU EVERYBODY THAT WORKS PERCENT ONLY ON THE BUDGET PHYSICALLY, BUT EVERY PERSON IN HERE THAT PRESENTED HAS PUT NUMEROUS HOURS IN IN ORDER TO GET THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS IN. WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THE

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>> FOR SATURDAY, IS THERE ANY NEW INFORMATION? HAVE YOU MADE ANY CHANGES TO THE BUDGET? SATURDAY WE HAD THAT ONE DEAL WE TOOK OUR SATURDAY PAPER WORK AND EVERYONE IS CALLING FALSE INFORMATION. APPARENTLY THINGS HAVE CHANGED. I KNOW ALBERTA SOME $1800 OR WHAT EVER DIFFERENCE BUT CAN YOU PROVIDE

US WITH THE UP DATE? >> YES, BUT IT IS VERY MIDDLE SCHOOL BECAUSE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT I HAVE MADE -- THAT ISSUE CLEAR GOLF HAD WITH A -- MODULE. MATERIALLY NOTHING HAS

CHANGED. >> WE STILL HAVE THE SAME

TERMINATION? >> THE AMOUNT RECORD SHEET THAT TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS IS THE SAME. WE PROJECTED EXPENSES FOR THE USERS OR WHATEVER AT TOP OF THAT TABLE AND REMEMBER WHENEVER I EXPLAINED THAT JUST LIKE I SAID EARLIER. THAT IS WHAT IS SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE. THIS IS IMPACT FEES ARE INCREASED -- ALL OF THOSE -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT INFORMATION WE WANT TO COVER SATURDAY BECAUSE INFORMATION TAKEN BEFORE --

>> TAX RATE PERCENTAGES, 15 OR 20, WHATEVER.

>> THE PROJECTIONS OF OUR GROWTH OVER TOWN -- TIME ?

>> SEND US AN UPDATED EMAIL TOMORROW WITH THE LINK TO

WHATEVER IT IS YOU HAVE . >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO RUN THE NUMBERS? THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE .

>> THAT IS WHOLE OTHER DEBATE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DECREASE IN CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EQUALS. IT MAY BE A NET GAIN OR LOSS. PEOPLE THINK WE CAN BE LIKE -- HAVE A HIGH IMPACT FEE. I WILL HAVE TO PAY THE BILL AND SO TO ME DO THEY NEED TO GO UP? PROBABLY, BUT IF WE WILL DO A $20,000 HOUSE IMPACT THREE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK OUT A MORATORIUM ON

HOUSING. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE

20,000 AS -- >> 19 , NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.

WATER AND WASTEWATER. >> I THOUGHT WAS LIKE 12 FOR

WASTEWATER. >> ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE KNOW THAT WE ARE INCREASING -- THAT WILL DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE IMPACT THAT WE WOULD SHOW ON THE CALCULATION FOR THE WASTEWATER USER BECAUSE HE MADE ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE NO IMPACT FEES TO PAY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS . EVERYTHING HAS TO BE PEOPLE WOULD THAT THAT IS BEING PAID FOR BY THE -- AND THAT SOME ACTOR IN A SENSE OF WE LIKELY TO INCREASE IMPACT ? TO PROVIDE DEBT SERVICE WHICH REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER YOU WANT.

>> WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BRING, BRING. AS LONG AS OR SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE TWO RHYTHM WE CAN ARGUE THE NEXT ONE.

>> WHAT YOU HAD THAT SATURDAY THAT HAD GREAT CHANGES, PROPERTY TAX INCREASE CHANGES WITH ALL CIP PROJECTS FOR FIVE

YEARS . >> I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING ANY OF THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS TO HAVE STAFF

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>> THAT'S SHORTSIGHTED. >> THAT IS WHAT WE WANT FROM

THE CITIZENS. >> WE WERE THERE, YOU ARE. WHAT WE TOLD THE PUBLIC IS WE HAVE TO MAKE BIG-TIME DECISIONS , NOT JUST THIS YEAR, NOT JUST NEXT YEAR, REAR OR YEARS OUT AND YOU'RE TALKING 1 BILLION IN PRODUCTS, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. YOU WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN SATURDAY ?

>> I DON'T. >> CAN YOU TELL JAMES.

>> IT IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP. >> THE BIGGEST ONE WAS LIKE A BRIDGE. DIDN'T DO THAT THE NUMBER BECAUSE YOU GET ACCEPTED, YOU CAN'T. HAD TO FULLY PUT THAT INTO BEING PAID BY THIS THIS AND CITIZENS AND A CIP PROJECT. YOU WENT OUT THERE AND SAID IS THIS TAX OR NOT. EVER SAID THAT EACH TAX YEAR IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT BODY OF COUNSEL. THEY DID ALSO GET THAT GRANT FUNDING. OR THIS WAS THE GROWTH RATE OR -- SO EACH YEAR YOU DO BUDGET FOR THIS. YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN BUT THEN TO SAY IT'LL BE 20% EVERY YEAR? NO. REALISTICALLY IF IT WERE THAT HIGH YOU WOULDN'T VOTE TO DO IT. WILL PUSH STEP OUT THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR AND SAY WHAT CAN WE AFFORD TO DO

THIS YEAR? >> THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU ARE SAYING THAT I WANT TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING IN A

ONE-YEAR WINDOW? >> HOW DO YOU KNOW THE PROJECTS YOU ARE DOING THIS YEAR -- IF YOU HAD YOU PICK THE TOP 10 PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, ARE WE DOING THE TOP?

>> YES. >> I DISAGREE.

>> WE HAD A STRATEGIC SECTION. WE DID IT IN MARCH. WE DID IT AGAIN IN THE PUBLIC IN MAY. WE MET AGAIN IN JUNE. HE HAD THE LIST COME UP AGAIN FROM THE CIP PLAN. YOU SAY THAT ALL THE CITIZENS -- IT HAS BEEN TALKED AND PRIORITIZE.

>> YOU HAVE NEVER PRIORITIZED IT.

>> WE SENT THE LIST AND WE TOLD STAFF TO MAKE YOUR BUDGET. THEN YOU COME IN AND SAID I DIDN'T PRIORITIZE BECAUSE IT IS NOT

WHAT I LIKE. >> WHAT WE DID WAS WE MOVE THE PROJECTS TO HIT A NUMBER WE DIDN'T DO ANY PRIORITIZATION, WHATEVER, LOOK IT IS LIKE I SAID THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, YOU KEEP CALLING ME OUT TO THE MEETING, THAT'S FINE, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO RAISE TAXES TO GO SOME CRAZY THING YOU WANT TO DO IT YOUR FAX AND GUARANTEES THAT ARE LBS AND YOU'RE GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU CALL ME OUT OR YOU MAKE SOME FALSE ACCUSATION ALL YOU ARE MAKING ME DO IS TAKE IN MORE AND MORE, NO NEW REVENUE AND IS MORE IMPORTANT TO DO IT NOW THAN EVER BECAUSE YOUR RAGS AND YOUR SWAGS ARE GOING TO GET THE CITY IN TROUBLE AND YOU WON'T BE HERE TO DO WITH IT.

YOU WILL BE GONE. YOU WILL BE IN HARRIS COUNTY AND JOINED THE GOOD LIFE IN THE REST OF US WILL DEAL WITH THIS AND THEY WILL WANT TO POINT PICTURES -- FINGERS ABOUT WHY MY TAXES ARE GOING UP. KEEPING HEIDI AND MAKING ACCUSATIONS. THAT'S FINE. YOU NEED TO BE WORKING MIKE, HOW DO WE GET YOU TO COME UP ? INSTEAD, YOU WANT TO BE A FOOL, AND THAT IS FINE. AT THIS POINT IT'S A NEW REVENUE BUDGET AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT SOMETHING OUT OF HERE, BUT YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP DOING A 15% INCREASE AND DO IT . SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WILL HAVE A BUDGET THAT WILL WORK AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO HOUSTON AND TALK ALL THE TRASH YOU WANT ABOUT ME, I DON'T CARE BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE

WREAKED OUT. >> YOU ARE FREAKING THEM OUT.

>> AND WITH FALSE INFORMATION.

>> WHAT'S FALSE? >> YOU ARE TELLING PEOPLE THAT

TAXES ARE GOING UP. >> IT MAY NOT BE FALSE, BUT THE

RHETORIC OR THE TONE. >> THAT THE INFORMATION GIVEN

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THAT TAXES WILL TRIPLE. >> TAXES WILL NOT TRIPLE.

>> THAT'S RIDICULOUS. >> WHEN IS THE PENALTIES ARE STATUTORILY RESTRICTED GROWTH . PRIOR TO 2019 CITIES CAN INCREASE THEIR BUDGETS UP TO 8% EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AFTER 2019 THAT NO LONGER EXISTED AND IT WENT TO 3.5%. A CITY CANNOT INCREASES TAXES HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GROW YOUR M&O BY MORE THAN 3%. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?

>> YEAH. >> SO DON'T SAY YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING MORE THAN 3% WHEN YOU CAN --

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF

THE BUDGET. >> INS IS AT $.13 CURRENTLY WITH NO MOVEMENT AFTER TAKING A PIPE HUNDRED , THE CITY IS 500 MILLION IN DEBT.

>> BRING OUT THE CLAWS. >> 13.1 , TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE

[13. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

C, RELATED TO AGREEMENT FOR A WHOLESALE WASTEWATER DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS CAL SAWN D AND SECOND AMENDMENT TO RECHARGE WATER SELL AGREEMENT FOR THE WHOLESALE DELIVERY OF WATER . DECEMBER 12, 2023. CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING POTENTIAL CLAIMS. PENDING LITIGATION INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO -- DATED MARCH 4TH 2021 TWO BEGINNING IN A LAWSUIT IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 BY 171 , CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE -- AND CLAIMS RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. TIME IS 1:53.

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