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[Planning and Zoning on November 5, 2024.]
UH, CITY OF HU PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER FOR TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 AT 7:00 PM ALRIGHTY.WE'RE MISSING, UH, COMMISSIONER LEE, WHO IS OUR CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I THOUGHT THAT WAS IN DECEMBER.
ASHLEY, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL LETTER.
YES, BUT IT'S FOR, FOR A PARTICULAR ISSUE.
MA'AM, IF YOU WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU NEED TO SIGN UP, UP HERE, PLEASE.
UH, NO, THIS LADY IN THE BACK.
I, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, JOHN.
OR, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT HE'S TALKING ABOUT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT.
IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME UP AND FILL OUT AN ITEM OR WE CAN JUST GET THEM TO FILL IT OUT AFTER THE FACT.
IF THEY HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT ON A SPECIFIC ITEM.
CAN YOU RELAY THAT TO ME PLEASE?
YOU, YOU, YOU ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT JUST WANTS TO TALK ON A GENERAL SUBJECT AND NOT ON AN AGENDA? ICE ITEM? OKAY.
WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR, I BELIEVE, I'M SORRY.
MAY YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THEM IF IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN SPEAK TO HIM AND JUST DEAL WITH JOHN.
WELL, HE SAID NO ONE WANTED TO SPEAK OF ANYTHING.
THERE'S NO AGENDA ITEM LIKE WE GO ALONG.
JUST GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO FOUR.
WE'LL GO DOWN TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE ITEM 4.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024.
ITEM 4.2, CONSIDERATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE 2025 SUBMITTAL CALENDAR IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS HOUSE BILL 36 99.
ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE THREE FINAL PLANT, 62.678 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND.
THREE OPEN SPACE LOTS, TWO DRAINAGE EASEMENT, OPEN SPACE, AND ONE PARK LOT LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.
AND ITEM 4.4 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE FOUR FINAL PLANT, 27.473 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND.
1 39 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND ONE OPEN SPACE.
LOT LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 1 32.
THESE FOUR ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO, BEFORE WE DO THAT.
WELL, I, I DO NOT WANT TO VOTE ON 4.1.
I WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AND THE MEETING IS NOT POSTED ONLINE, SO I WASN'T ABLE TO LISTEN TO IT OR WATCH IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TOOK PLACE.
SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT.
I'M ALSO, YOU CAN RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THAT VOTE.
YOU WANNA FURTHER DISCUSS IT FOR DISCUSSION? WE HAVE TO PULL IT FIRST.
WE HAVE THE OTHER THREE ITEMS. 4.2, 4.3, AND 4.4 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THEM? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM 4.2, 4.3, AND 4.4 AS WRITTEN.
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I SECOND.I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, SORRY.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR ANY DISCUSSION ON FOR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.
ITEMS 4.2, 4.3 AND 4.4 HAVE ALL BEEN, UH, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HUDSON.
IT DOES NOT LIST WHO MADE THE MOTION OR SECONDED.
COMMISSIONER HUDSON, WHICH ITEM? CORRECT? HONOR 5.2.
IS THERE GONNA BE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK OR, UH, IF IT'S A ADMIN CORRECTION, THEN, THEN I THINK I CAN MOTION TO APPROVE 4.1.
UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE CORRECTIONS, WITH CORRECTIONS BEING MADE, DO WE WANT LIST WHAT THOSE CORRECTIONS ARE OR JUST ASSUME STAFF WILL TAKE CARE OF IT? I'LL HAVE TO LIST AGAIN.
I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THE DAYS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE INTERNET, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, YEAH, THE RECORDING WASN'T WORKING THAT DAY, BUT I'VE GOT IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN AT HOME.
THEN WITH, WITH THE, UH, CORRECTIONS.
I MOVE TO MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE CORRECTION.
I'M ALSO GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF.
I WASN'T HERE, HERE FOR THAT MEETING.
WE HAVE MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 4.1 WITH THE CORRECTIONS OF WHO MADE THE MOTIONS ON 5.2.
IT WAS SECTORED BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS MORRIS AND COMMISSIONER STEWART IS ABSTAINING BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER STEWART WAS, OBS IS ABSTAINING WORDS.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE? YES, YOU APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM A PRIOR MEETING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PRESENT OR HAVE ATTENDED TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
SIMPLY AS STATED, THAT, UH, EXAMPLE 4.1 IS APPROVED WITH THE CORRECTION BY STAFF OF THE NECESSARY NAMES.
I WOULD LIKE LEGAL TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.
I I BELIEVE YOU ARE, YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT SINCE I WAS NOT HERE.
JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER STEWART.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG IN US DOING THAT.
UH, IT'S, TO ME IT'S JUST A SAFER WAY TO GO.
SO ALL THOSE IN, LET'S SEE WITH TWO DOWN.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING 4.1 WITH CORRECTIONS MADE BY STAFF, SAY AYE.
MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ZERO WITH TO ABSTAIN.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS ONE 40 SOUTH FM 1660 TO ALLOW A FUNERAL HOME IN THE SD, A SPECIAL DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT.
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GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.AS IT WAS JUST STATED, THIS IS A, FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A FUNERAL HOME LOCATED AT 1 4 0 SOUTH FM 1660.
THE PROPERTY IS, UM, JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST, SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE INTER INTERSECTION OF AUSTIN AVENUE AND FM 1660 SOUTH.
UM, TO, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS A LOCATION MAP, AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE ID OR THE PARCEL THAT HAS THE PARCEL NUMBER AND IS BOLDED IN THE BLACK OUTLINE.
THAT'S THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED.
ORIGINALLY, IT WAS PART OF THE 1911, UM, HU INCORPORATION PLAT, AND THEN LATER PLATTED A PART OF THE CHERRY 1660 SUBDIVISION IN 2007.
THIS LOT HAS FRONTAGE ALONG FM 1660 SOUTH, AGAIN, IS JUST SOUTH OF THAT INTERSECTION AT AUSTIN AVENUE AND FM 1660 SOUTH.
AND THEN THE PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH, UM, FRONTED OR WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY OF 1660 SOUTH.
AND, UM, RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST SIDE.
AS IT WAS JUST STATED, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED, UM, SDA OR SPECIAL DISTRICT ARTERIAL, WHICH CONSISTS OF THAT LOWER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE AND SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT'S, UM, ALLOWED BY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
PARKING IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THERE'S WITH LIMITED PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, ALL THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE STILL GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR CONNECTIVITY.
THE SDA ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF DOWNTOWN TRANSITION.
SO THE CODE CURRENTLY DEFINES FUNERAL HOMES AS A BUILDING USED FOR PREPARING THE DECEASED FOR BURIAL OR CREMATION, UM, DISPLAYING THE DECEASED AND OR RELATED CRE CEREMONIES OR SERVICES RELATED, UM, INCLUDING CREMATION AND THE STORAGE OF CASKETS, FUNERAL URNS, FUNERAL VEHICLES, AND OTHER FUNERAL SUPPLIES.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED, UM, THAT THIS SITE IS, WILL NOT HAVE ANY CREMATION SERVICES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE FIRST STEP IS OF COURSE, TO, UM, GAIN S UH, CP OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UM, APPROVAL.
AND THEN IF APPROVAL, UM, ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE A COA OR CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
UM, AND OF COURSE, IN THE REVIEW WITH THAT, COA STAFF, UM, WILL BE, UM, DETERMINING IF A TIA WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS USE.
AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, OTHER SUBMITTALS WOULD BE INCLUDING A SITE PLAN BUILDING PERMITS, UM, WOULD BE REQUIRED AS WELL.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THAT UDC, UM, THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY ANY SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE UDC DOES NOT PROVIDE THOSE, UM, EXPLICIT, UM, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, UM, THE ENTIRE CODE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE USE, UM, ESPECIALLY SECTION 10.2, 3.2, 1.2, WHICH STATES THAT SOME LAND USES MAY BE APPROPRIATE AND CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR PROVIDED A PUBLIC SERVICE, BUT THEY REQUIRE SPECIAL ATTENTION TO FIND IF THEY HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
USES PERMITTED BY SPECIFIC USE REVIEW ARE NOT USES BY RIGHT, BUT USES THAT MAY BE APPROVED IF THE APPLICANT SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS APPROPRIATE AT A CERTAIN LOCATION.
SO ALTHOUGH THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE, UM, THERE IS A BIG CONCERN WITH TRAFFIC CONGESTION, UM, BEING SO CLOSE TO THAT RAIL LINE.
AND THEN THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.
UM, SERVICES WOULD REALLY ONLY BE ABLE TO BE HELD DURING TYPICAL OFF PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS.
UM, WITH THE SITE JUST TO THE SOUTH, UM, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BUSIEST, UM, RAILS IN THE STATE, UM, WHICH IS GONNA LEAD TO ANOTHER CONCERN ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
UH, USING CARL STERN AS AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE WOULD REQUIRE FURTHER TIME LIMITATIONS TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON NEARBY SCHOOLS WITH DROP OFF OR PICKUP TIME.
SO IN ADDITION, THE SIZE OF SERVICES WOULD NEED TO BE LIMITED SO THAT THAT OFFSITE PARKING, UM, IS NOT REQUIRED.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO REAL SAFE ADJACENT LOCATIONS AT WHICH TO PARK, UM, OR A SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ALONG, UM, FM 1660.
TXDOT IS REDESIGNING, UM, THE FM 1660 SOUTH AND US 79 INTERSECTION, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS THAT MOST OF THAT IS GONNA BE TO THE NORTH, NOT EARLY TO THE SOUTH.
HERE YOU HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF A POTENTIAL LAYOUT OF WHAT THE, UM, SETUP WOULD LOOK LIKE.
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STAFF DID SEND OUT NOTICES TO 88 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN, UH, 600 FOOT BUFFER.TO DATE STAFF HAD RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES.
ONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION TO THAT ORIGINAL QUEST, BUT THERE WAS, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A LACK OF A QUORUM.
SO WITH STATE LAW STAFF HAD TO RESCHEDULE AND SEND OUT PUBLIC NOTICES AGAIN.
SO WE SENT OUT TO THE EXACT SAME 88 PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, WE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES, ONE IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION.
AND THEN TODAY, UM, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED ANOTHER LETTER AND I HANDED THAT OUT TO YOU BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS IN OPPOSITION AS WELL.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, STAFF'S GONNA RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF THIS SUP, AND IT'S ALL GONNA COME DOWN TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION.
MY NAME IS THOMAS LOMBARDI, JR.
CIVIL ENGINEER, MCKINLEY HORN, REPRESENTING MY CLIENT, SCI.
OH, SO TONIGHT, UM, WE'RE HERE FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, FOR A FUNERAL HOME.
UM, SEI MAINTAINS AND, AND, AND, AND, AND FACILITIES LIKE THIS ALL OVER CENTRAL TEXAS.
UM, HERE'S A, HERE'S A MAP OF, OF THE FACILITIES IN THE AREA, UM, FOR THE SITE.
THE SITE IS A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES.
IT'S OWN SPECIAL DISTRICT A WITH THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY, A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
IT'S REQUIRED FOR THE BUILDING DESIGN RIGHT AWAY.
IT IS GONNA BE DEDICATED FOR THE SITE.
SO WE ARE DEDICATING 15 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY ALONG 1660, NO NEW DRIVEWAYS ALONG 1660.
WE'RE TAKING OUR ACCESS FROM THE PRIVATE DRIVE TO THE NORTH.
AND IF YOU WOULD LOOK, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL.
WE HAVE SELF STORAGE TO OUR EAST LANDSCAPING COMPANY TO OUR NORTH AND A PLUMBER TO OUR SOUTH.
SO HERE'S, YOU KNOW, A PLAN VIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN BUILDING'S A LITTLE UNDER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE HAVE OFFICES, SERVICES, VISITATION.
THERE'S NO CREMATION OR INVOLVEMENT SERVICES ON SITE.
THAT'S ALL GONNA BE DONE OFFSITE.
HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH ADDITIONAL CALLOUTS AND, AND DETAILS.
SO THE LOADING AND AND UNLOADING WILL BE DONE IN THE REAR, NOT VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT VISIBLE FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL, UM, PROPERTIES.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE ARE DEDICATING THAT 15 FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF TEX CAN, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AND THEN WE ARE NOT TAKING IT ANY, ANY DIRECT ACCESS OFF OF POINT IT TO THE LEFT, THE LEFT, LIKE THAT, THE WAY UP.
AND THEN SOME, THESE ARE SOME RECENT PROJECTS WE COMPLETED.
AND THIS THING IS THAT, CAN YOU HEAR ME FINE? MM-HMM,
SO HERES ARE SOME RECENT PROJECTS WE COMPLETED JUST SHOWING THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER LIKE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS YOUR CITY HAS, WE COULD, WE CAN FIT THAT NEED.
SO IN THE UPPER LEFT, WE HAVE MORE OF A BEACH THEME GOING IN PARALLEL TEXAS ON THE IN BOTTOM MIDDLE COLONIAL AND VIRGINIA, UM, SPANISH RENAISSANCE ON THE UPPER RIGHT IN FRESNO.
SO, AND AGAIN, WE'LL GO THROUGH A SEPARATE REVIEW, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT IS GONNA BE A NICE LOOKING FACILITY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC IS THE MAIN CONCERN WITH THE PROJECT.
WE DO HAVE THE SNIPPET OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS I STAFF WAS ALLUDING TO IN THEIR PRESENTATION, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS OF 79 AND, AND, UM, 1660.
THAT HAPPENS NORTH TO OUR TRACK.
WE DO HAVE OUR TRACK LO, YOU KNOW, HIGH, UH, HATCHED AND YELLOW THERE.
NOW, IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TWO TO THREE SERVICES A WEEK.
UM, AND THE SERVICES ARE GONNA BE DURING OFF PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES LIKE 10:00 AM TO THREE 30, AND THEN VISITATION AFTER SEVEN.
SO I THINK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FOR THIS FACILITY IS GONNA BE MINIMAL.
UM, ALL PARKING WILL BE ON SITE.
WE HAVE 70 PARKING SPOTS DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, PER OUR SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY, I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, WHICH WILL GO INTO THE CITY'S COFFERS TO IMPROVE, IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC NETWORK IN THE CITY OF HUTTO.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A TRIP GENERATION TABLE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER JUST SHOWING HOW FEW TRIPS A FUNERAL HOME ACTUALLY PRODUCES COMPARED TO OTHER USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE ZONING.
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ALL THE OTHER USES ARE MUCH HIGHER WITH THE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFFICE, OFFICE IS AT 1 58, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE DURING PEAK RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC TIMES, RIGHT? THAT'S GONNA BE SEVEN TO NINE IN THE MORNING, FIVE TO SEVEN IN THE EVENINGS.SO AGAIN, I KNOW TRAFFIC IS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AND WHY PEOPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS A, I THINK THE BEST USE FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT, UH, ON A TRAFFIC IMPACT BASIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
AM I GOOD TO SIT DOWN? YOU'RE FINE.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AT 7:21 PM IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE, STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, YOU WANT THAT UP, AND TURN YOUR SLIP INTO JOHN AND ASHLEY, IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, THAT'S FINE.
AND PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
I'VE GOT AN EAR INFECTION, I'M NOT HEARING REAL WELL.
I LIVE AT 100 COTTON COVE IN HURO.
I AM IN CREEKSIDE OF STATES, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED FUNERAL HOME JUST SOUTH.
UM, MY OPINION IS THIS VERY POOR LOCATION, BOTH FOR THE FUNERAL HOME, UM, AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD SERVE AS WELL AS LOCAL RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF.
UH, I'VE BEEN, UM, DRIVING IN THE, IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, DRIVING AROUND, I WOULD SAY LIKE 11 O'CLOCK, 1130.
I KNOW THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT PAST THE TIME THAT, UM, UH, THE GENTLEMAN WAS SPEAKING, BUT I EVEN THEN THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND AGAIN, YOU HAD THE, THE TRAINS THAT COME THROUGH AND THAT CAN REALLY STOP TRAFFIC.
SO MY CONCERN WAS LIKE FOR THE FUNERAL HOME, IF THEY WERE, UH, LEAVING TO GO TO A CEMETERY, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND THEN THE TRAIN COULD REALLY, UH, MAKE THINGS CONGESTED.
I'VE BEEN PASSED THERE IN THE EVENING, MORE LIKE SIX O'CLOCK, WHICH I HAVE BEEN TO, UH, VISITATIONS AT ANOTHER FUNERAL HOME WHERE IT WAS LIKE SIX TO EIGHT.
SO, AND THERE AGAIN, IT WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
SO TRAFFIC IS MY MAIN CONCERN, UM, BOTH FOR THE FUNERAL HOME AND FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:23 PM ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THIS.
FIRST OFF, I LIKE THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY IS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND A, A APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.
BUT IT'S WRONG TIME, WRONG PLACE.
I JUST LOOKED AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON A WELL KNOWN TRAFFIC PLACE AND WESTBOUND 79 WAS ALL RED FOR A QUARTER MILE WESTBOUND FRONT STREET, WHICH IS REALLY CR 9 1 99, UM, WAS ALL RED FOR EIGHTH OF A MILE.
AND EAST STREET EASTBOUND TRAFFIC FROM FRONT STREET, UH, WAS RED FOR LESS THAN A 10TH OF A MILE, AND THAT'S WAS SEVEN 14.
SO ANYTHING AFTER, ANYTHING AFTER FOUR 30 TO PROBABLY SEVEN IS YOU CAN'T HAVE TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, THE WAY IT IS NOW, OKAY, WE HAVE A MAJOR T TXDOT, WELL CITY OF HU AND TXDOT FOR THE 79 INTERSECTION WITH FM 16 16 60.
THERE'S ALSO, BECAUSE OF MATT RECTOR AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN SPEAK BETTER, BUT APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS AGO, A TDOT SAID, WE'RE GONNA REDESIGN THE FRONT STREET CR 1 99, UH, PROPOSAL AND HAVE A SECOND INTERSECTION THERE, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANTED TWO YEARS AGO, BUT THAT'S NONE OF US.
SO, SO THAT DESIGN HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK IT'S ON TRACK AND IT'S GOING SATISFACTORY.
THE PROBLEM IS, THERE ARE TWO ENGINEERING FIRMS. BEFORE THERE WAS ONE ENGINEERING FIRM FOR BOTH IN INTERSECTIONS.
AND SO WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE HICCUPS THAT CAN OCCUR? YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THIS GOING ON AND A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT PRO PROCESS, AND AGAIN, STAFF CAN CORRECT ME, UH, IS THAT CR 1 99 IS GONNA GET TORN UP COMPLETELY AND IT'S HEADED TO THE EAST.
AND ALSO FRONT STREET WILL BE REDONE AS WELL, PLUS THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT THIS, THIS IS A NIGHTMARE THERE
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ALREADY FOR, FOR CITIZENS ESPECIALLY THAT ARE SOUTHEAST OF THAT LOCATION.WHAT IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT AREA? THE SOUTHEAST ON CR 1 99.
OH, THAT'S CROSS CREEK AND THERE'S CREEK, UM, CROSS CREEK.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT PROBLEMS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
CR 1 99 IS A HUGE, UM, EAST WEST TRAVEL POINT FROM FROM FRONT STREET OR, OR RIGHT AT 79 AND 1660 SOUTH, SUCH THAT, UM, AND I, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMEFRAME, BUT I THINK IT'S IN A ONE TO TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME IS WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PULL UP ON 99.
I'M TALKING ABOUT GRAVE IT TO AGRICULTURAL, BLACK, BLACK, UH, FARM SOIL AND REDO EVERYTHING ON THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S THIS WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THIS, I THINK IT'LL, WE'LL KNOW ENOUGH, MAYBE A YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL KNOW MORE.
AND I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS AN ENGINEER AND WORKING WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH FOR THIS INTERSECTION FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
AND EVEN THOUGH I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING SOME, NOT SOME GREEN LIGHTS GOING ON HERE, UH, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING, GETTING ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE AND, AND WORKING WITH TECH TALK.
AND AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, THE RAILROAD IS, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT DAILY DELAYS, I'M TALKING ABOUT APPROVALS, WHICH HAS BEEN, WE'VE DONE IN ADVANCE.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL CHECKED ALL THE BOXES WITH THE RAILROAD, BUT THE RAILROAD COMMISSION OR THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKES T STOCK LOOK LIKE A COUPLE OF CUB SCOUTS.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS MAJOR, MAJOR FEDERAL REGULATION THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.
UM, AND ANYTHING TO CLEAN THAT UP IS 10 OR 20 YEARS AWAY.
SO MY PERSONAL OPINION IS I DON'T, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL.
I APPLAUD THE DESIGN, I APPLAUD THE, THE LOCATION AND DEFINITELY THE, THE SERVICES THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I I LIKE ALL THAT EXCEPT FOR THE TIMING AND THE LOCATION.
SO I, I DO AGREE THAT HURO DOES NEED TO HAVE A FUNERAL HOME.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE THE NEED.
I DO LIKE IN THE POWERPOINT, HOW YOU SHOWED THESE MICS ARE CRAZY, THEY'RE HOT, HOW YOU SHOWED DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DESIGN IT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE DESIGNS SPECIFIC TO HURO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
I AGREE MOSTLY WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER MORRIS SAID, BUT I HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENTS WITH WHAT HE SAID IN THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A MATTER OF TIMING.
I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF LOCATION BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH 1660 SOUTH 1 99 FRONT STREET, I THINK THAT LOCATION IS NOT A GOOD ONE AT ALL.
AND IN THE PRESENTATION YOU MADE, YOU INDICATED THAT THERE'S 70 PARKING SPOTS.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT ALL 70 PARKING SPOTS ARE TAKEN.
IF THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY, BUT IF THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH THEIR POLICE ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH ANYWHERE IN TOWN, THAT PRESENTS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR MANY PEOPLE.
AND ALLUDING TO WHAT HE WAS INDICATING WITH THE RAILROAD, THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR EVERY RESIDENT WHO LIVES SOUTH OF 1660.
AND SO FOR ME, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
I WAS ATTEMPTING TO DRIVE HERE TODAY AROUND SIX O'CLOCK, WHICH IS THE SAME TIMEFRAME THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE VISITORS GOING TO YOUR 7:00 PM SERVICES TRAVELING, RIGHT? TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD AT THAT TIME.
I WAITED SEVEN CYCLES OF LIGHTS AT 1660 AND 79 TO TRY TO GET HERE.
THAT'S WITHOUT THE FUNERAL HOME BEING THERE RIGHT AT THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO, AND IF IT'S THREE DAY TIMES A WEEK, THAT'S THREE TIMES TOO MANY IN MY OPINION.
SO I THINK THE NEED, ABSOLUTELY IT'S NEEDED, BUT THAT LOCATION IS NOT A GOOD ONE.
SO I TOO AM VOTING AGAINST THIS AND I WOULD HOPE THAT Y'ALL CAN STILL PURSUE HURO, BUT MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT HAVING THE SAME IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING THERE, RIGHT? NO, I, WELL, I I DO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, I GUESS, UM, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, THIS IS THE LOWEST IMPACT USE OF THAT LAND, ASIDE FROM IT BEING VACANT.
SO, SO, BUT RICK, THIS IS THE THING I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER.
IT MIGHT BE LOW IMPACT, RIGHT? BUT WHEN IT IS A HIGH IMPACT, IT'S A HIGH IMPACT.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WHICH
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OCCURS.THE VISITATIONS ARE AFTER EVENING RUSH HOUR, WHICH, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE NOW.
BUT THIS FUNERAL HOME WILL BE HERE FOR FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEEDS WOULD BE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, RIGHT? SO YES, THAT MIGHT BE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING INITIALLY, BUT WE NEED TO BE FORWARD THINKING WE CAN'T REGULATE THEIR BUSINESS HOURS.
AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AT A VISITATION, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE CHAIN OF CARS WITH THE POLICE ESCORT THAT IS INDIVIDUALS ARRIVING AT THE SITE, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER BUSINESS GOING IN THERE.
NOW I'M NOT ARGUING FOR IT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS THE LOWEST IMPACT USE, ASIDE FROM VACANT LAND AND THE TRAFFIC IN THE EVENING IS INDIVIDUAL USERS.
IT IS NOT A PER FUNERAL PROCESSION THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING DURING THE DAY.
I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK OUT OF ALL OF THE POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT FUNERAL HOMES IS BY FAR THE LOWEST TRAFFIC PO LIKE POTENTIALLY CAUSING TRAFFIC.
RIGHT? YOU IF YOU PUT A STORAGE UNIT FACILITY RIGHT THERE, I DOUBT THAT I I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE LOWER THAN THIS PROPOSAL.
RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T SAY FACT FUNERAL HOMES ARE THE LEAST TRAFFIC CAUSING DEVELOPMENT.
SO WITH THE STUDY THAT THEY DID RIGHT, WITH THIS, AND THIS ISN'T RIGHT OUT OF THOSE FACTORS, SURE THAT'S THE LOWEST, BUT THAT'S NOT THE LOWEST OF ANY POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
WE COMPARED OTHER USES THAT WERE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
SO I, I DON'T THINK SELF STORAGE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
WELL, I DISAGREE WITH A COUPLE OF POINTS, NOT INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I, I WAS, WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING ABOUT TRAFFIC, I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT PROCESSIONS AT ALL.
AND, AND WHILE A STATE, WHILE YOU SAY THAT THERE'S OVERALL TRAFFIC IMPACT IS LESS, MAYBE BY TOTAL NUMBERS, BUT WHEN IT OCCURS, IT'S 50 TO 150 CARS.
IF IT WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE, THEY MIGHT HAVE 250 CARS DURING THE DAY, BUT THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, 10 OR 12 AN HOUR ON AVERAGE VERSUS HAVING 50 CARS THERE OVER TWO HOUR PERIOD.
AND, AND ANYWHERE FROM FOUR 30 TO SEVEN EVEN A-A-A-A-A-A VIEWING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, AGAIN, MOST FUNERAL DESIGN IS 50 TO 50, 75, ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO 75 CARS CAN COME IN THAT TIME FRAME.
AND AS I SAID, AT 7 14 79 WEST FRONT STREET OR CR 9 1 9 WEST AND FRONT STREET EAST ARE ALL RED AT SEVEN 14 IS WHEN I TOOK THAT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO THE TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM, PERIOD.
AND, AND I, I REFINED MY STATEMENT THAT, UM, LOCATION IS THE ISSUE, BUT THE LOCATION COMPOUNDED BY THE TIMING MAKES IT A BIG ISSUE.
BUT I AGREE, LOCATION IS THE PROBLEM.
AND IF IT WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE, I BELIEVE THE OVERALL TRAFFIC IMPACT WOULD BE LESS THAN HAVING ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED CARS THREE TIMES A WEEK AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY.
I MEAN, REALLY, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S EARLY MORNING, I MEAN MIDDAY, YOU KNOW, 10 TO, TO THREE OR 10 TO TWO, THAT TIMEFRAME, IT'S OKAY.
BUT ANYTHING AFTER FOUR 30 IS A PROBLEM FOR, FOR JUST VIEWINGS, LET ALONE A PROCESSION.
BUT THOSE ARE GONNA BE DURING OUR PEAK HOURS AND THE VIEWINGS ARE AT SEVEN.
UM, I GUESS ON THE TIMING OF IT, YOU SAID MAYBE IF THIS IS LIKE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AWAY, YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, SO, WELL, I DON'T, YES, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, PERMANENT TIMELINE, THIS IS GOING TO BE, THIS IS LIKE A LONG PROCESS.
THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST STEP OF MANY STEPS TO GET THIS FACILITY OPERATIONAL.
UM, AND DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR MIND AT ALL, OR NOT REALLY? WELL, IT DOES NOT CHANGE MY MIND NOW.
BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STEWART THAT THAT LOCATION IS NOT A GOOD LOCATION, JUST THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WITHOUT ANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, WITHOUT ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD LAST 18 MONTHS, MAYBE LONGER.
UM, AND THEN ALSO KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CR 1 99, WHICH IS A SEPARATE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE TORN UP FOR TWO YEARS, IS MY FEELING, NOT JUST MY EXPERIENCE.
IT'S NOT A PLANNING AND ZONING STATEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST THIS COULD BE A TWO YEAR THING AND, AND WE'LL KNOW MORE IN A YEAR.
WE'LL DE WE'LL DEFINITELY KNOW MORE IN A YEAR.
WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT BALL ROLLING ON THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS, WHICH WE JUST FOUND OUT LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
WE GOTTA DO TWO INTERSECTIONS NOW.
BEFORE IT WAS ALL ONE INTERSECTION.
'CAUSE A TX DOT'S MANDATE TWO YEARS AGO.
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THAT RIGHT ASHLEY? ALRIGHT.WE NEED TO LET COMMISSIONER HUDSON FINISH HIS STATE.
I LOOKED AT HIM AND ASKED IF HE WANTED TO AND NEEDS TO NOT GO.
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS TOUCHING AUSTIN AVENUE.
SO THAT MIGHT CHANGE YOUR THINKING BECAUSE TEARING UP 1 99 WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON THIS SITE.
IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON 1660 TRAFFIC.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THE VISITATION HOURS ARE, I'VE NEVER SEEN A FUNERAL HOME WITH VISITATION HOURS DURING THE WORKING DAY.
SO THERE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT VISITATION HOURS WOULD BE AFTER THE WORKING DAY, AFTER PEOPLE CAN GET HOME AND THEN CHANGE, EAT, WHATEVER, AND GET OVER TO THE VISITATION.
SO I AM GOING TO ASSUME THAT THE VISITATION HOURS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE OFF PEAK FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THIS OPERATION.
I'M NOT A FUNERAL HOME DIRECTOR.
SECONDLY, A CONVENIENCE STORE OR ANY OTHER USE IS GOING TO WANT TO PUT DRIVEWAYS ON 1660.
NOW MY ONLY AD TO THIS SITE WOULD BE SIDEWALK YES.
WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS.
THEY JUST WEREN'T ADDED IN THAT CONCEPTUAL AT THE TIME.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE GONNA BE LOCATED, YOU KNOW, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY ADD FOR THIS.
IT'S A, LIKE I SAID, A LOW IMPACT.
IT MAY NOT BE THE ABSOLUTELY LOWEST IMPACT OUT OF ALL BUSINESSES THAT EXIST, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS A LOW IMPACT.
IT IS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ON 1660 AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT HU NEEDS NOW AS FOR THE RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT LOCATION, RIGHT TIME.
I TEND TO THINK THAT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON AT THE TWO INTERSECTIONS NORTH OF HERE, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA NOW, BUT I THINK WE COULD MAKE THIS WORK.
I JUST DO NOT THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS IS A GOOD PLAN.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THIS.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL.
I'M LOOKING AT THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND HAVE VESTED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE THERE, REGARDLESS OF HOW CLOSE OR HOW FAR YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE FROM THEM.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE BUILDINGS LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
THEY DO, BUT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THEIR PROPERTY VALUE.
UM, I I BELIEVE EVEN THOUGH IF YOU BUILD IT WITH A LARGE SIDEWALK AND THERE'S NO ENTRY TO THE PROPERTY FROM 1660, I'VE DONE IT A MILLION TIMES.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IT.
THEY'RE GONNA CROSS OVER THE SIDEWALK PARK ON THE SIDE STREET IN FRONT OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO GET INTO THAT, UM, PROPERTY BECAUSE PARKING SPACES ARE NEVER NEARLY ENOUGH IN THE FUNERAL.
I JUST THINK THIS IS THE WRONG LOCATION.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE NOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT THIS COULD GO ON.
WE DO NEED SET BUSINESS IN HUDDLE, BUT I'M GOING TO, UM, VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE PROPER PLACE.
CAN WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING AND NOT TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT? MY MIND'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE NEXT MEETING.
IF YOUR LOCATION DOESN'T CHANGE, THE VOTE WON'T CHANGE.
WELL, SO POINT OF ORDER WE HAVE AN AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S CALLING FOR ACTION.
SO I GUESS WE CAN, STEPH HELP ME HERE.
WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE TO TABLE AND WE CAN VOTE TO TABLE AND WE CAN VOTE TO FOR A, A FINAL ACTION.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TIMING STAFF, UM,
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IF IT'S NEXT MEET, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR MEETING SCHEDULES ARE, BUT THAT'S A MONTH AWAY.SO BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, I JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE THAT WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC COME OUT HERE NOW TWICE FOR THIS.
THE LAST TIME THEY COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH OF US HERE AND MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT TWICE TO DISCUSS THIS, BUT I, I WANT US TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THEIR TIME.
SO UNLESS WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE WOULD NEED TO POSTPONE THIS AGAIN, I RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED.
ANTHONY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? COMMISSIONER WETZ? UM, I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE ON BOTH OF IT.
UM, I GUESS MY CONCERN MAINLY IS, UM, WHAT IF, WHAT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 70 CARS? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? WE ARE OVER PARKED LIKE PER, LIKE, PER OPERATIONS BASED ON THE FUNERAL HOMES AT THE OPERATING THE AREA.
BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED CARS, THAT MEANS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 30 CARS THAT HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.
THE ONLY LOGICAL PLACE FOR THEM IS TO GO ON AUSTIN AVENUE OR THE OTHER STREET.
I CAN NEVER REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT STREET.
AND, AND THE, THE PEOPLE WOULD WALK AND HAVE TO GO ACROSS 1660 TO GET INTO THE, INTO THE FUNERAL HOME.
I DO AGREE THAT HUDA COULD USE A FUNERAL HOME.
UH, I ALSO AGREE WITH, WITH COMMISSIONER HUDSON THAT IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LOWEST IMPACT BUSINESSES THAT WE CAN PUT THERE.
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT THE LOWEST, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, UM, SO IT, IT, I HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.
UH, UM, CAN I MAKE ONE MORE ARGUMENT? SURE, GO AHEAD.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS NEEDS P AND THE APPROVAL THIS THIS PROPOSED USE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT GENERATE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAT THAT CAN BE PERMITTED BY.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SEE MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU SEEM IN FAVOR OF A FUNERAL HOME, JUST NOT AS LOCATION DUE TO TRAFFIC.
BUT, BUT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO DO A REGULARLY, A VERY LOW TRAFFIC USE ON THIS PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA GET DEVELOPED.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S GONNA GENERATE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAN A FUNERAL HOME AND IT WON'T GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW THE SELF STORAGE WAS USED AS ANOTHER USE THAT WOULD BE HAVE LESS IMPACT.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.
WOULD THEY WANNA SEE A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY DIRECTLY ACROSS THEIR STREET FROM THEIR HOMES? IT'S PROBABLY NOT.
UM, THEY DO ALREADY ALREADY THERE THOUGH.
THERE'S ONE RIGHT BEHIND IT THEY DO NOW, SO IT'S NO DIFFERENCE.
BUT MY, MY FIRST POINT AGAIN, LIKE THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO PERMIT A LOW TRAFFIC USE WHERE THERE ARE MANY OTHER USES THAT WON'T EVEN NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OTHER SITES FURTHER NORTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OR FURTHER SOUTH AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC, HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS? WE WILL CONTINUE.
COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH, I CAN'T HEAR.
SOME OF US ARE OLD AND WE'RE HARD OF HEARING.
YEAH, WE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER PROPERTY NORTH, UH, THIS PROPERTY CAME AVAILABLE.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD PRICING POINT FOR US AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT FOR IT.
AND, AND WE ARE COMMITTED JUST TO, WE, WE, WE AGREE ALSO THAT THE, THE COMMUNITY HAS A NEED AND WE ARE ESTABLISHED, BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME IN THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT AND WE WANNA SERVE THE FAMILIES OUT HERE.
WE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.
THE HONEST FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD, UH, TO, TO BUILD SOMETHING AND CREATE A LOT OF HAVOC, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO NOT WANT TO DO.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL ENTER, UH, REAL, REAL, REAL QUICK.
UM, HAS HPC SEEN THIS AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND LOADED ON IT OR ANYTHING? NO.
HPC WILL NOT SEE THIS UNTIL, UM, THE USE WOULD BE APPROVED BECAUSE THEY WOULD ONLY BE LOOKING AT THE
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BUILDING AND THE ARCHITECTURE.THEY WON'T SEE IT UNTIL IT'S APPROVED ARCHITECTURAL PURPOSES.
UH, I, I GUESS I HAVE ONE FINAL COMMENT.
CAN WE POSSIBLY GET A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT CAN GO IN SDA, JUST FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT USES.
FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT SHOWING.
UM, I DUNNO WHY IT WOULDN'T BE SHOWING DO THAT.
NOPE, IT'S NOT GONNA, DO YOU WANNA BRING IT UP? I HAVE BOTH OF YOURS.
UM, SO BY RIGHT, YOU COULD DO OFFICE, YOU COULD DO A MEDICAL OFFICE ARTERIAL.
UM, YOU COULD DO A BANK BY, RIGHT.
YOU COULD DO A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GASOLINE SALES BY RIGHT.
UM, THERE'S A GROCERY STORE THAT YOU COULD DO BY RIDE INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY, UM, AN INSTRUCTIONAL FACILITY, ALL LOW VOLUME LODGING ESTABLISHMENT.
NONE OF THOSE WOULD PARK IN FRONT OF RESIDENCE HOMES FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.
I SAID NONE OF THOSE WOULD PARK IN A RE IN FRONT OF A RESIDENCE'S HOME, LIKE ON THE STREET LIKE WE WERE DISCUSSING.
SO 75 PARKING SPOTS, IF THEY WERE THE SAME, WOULD MORE THAN COVER A BANK, A DAYCARE THAT, THAT CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT, WITHOUT FUEL STILL.
THAT'S IF IT WASN'T SUBDIVIDED, BUT WE COULD SAY NO TO THAT TOO.
A SO THAT'S THE COLUMN ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT.
YEAH, WE GO LET'S GO TO THE OTHER, UM, BAKERY.
AND THEN SOME OF THESE ARE BY CONDITIONS.
CLUB OR A AND A A CLUB OR EVENT HALL OR CLUB OR LODGE FACILITY WHERE SAY A WEDDING IS HELD, THEY'RE GONNA PARK IN FRONT HOUSES JUST YEAH, THAT PARKING WOULD GO EVERYWHERE.
IT BE A CLUB OR LODGE WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE DEFINITION AND THE CODE, NOT JUST, UM, AN EVENT FACILITY WOULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN A CLUB OR LODGE.
I, I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT VFWS AND SO ON.
UM, BUT THE POINT IS IS THAT THERE'S DOZENS OF USES AND YES, MOST OF 'EM ARE LOWER TRAFFIC FOOTPRINT.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.
I I WHO GOT THE LETTER AND THOSE OF US WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED WHO DIDN'T GET THE LETTER.
I WOULD AGREE THAT THE USES, MANY OF THE USES APPEAR TO NOT HAVE THAT OVERFLOW PROBLEM IF THERE IS AN OVERFLOW FLOW PROBLEM.
BUT AGAIN, I, THIS IS A VERY LOW IMPACT FIT, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.
SO RICK, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME DROP MY CHILDREN OFF AT SCHOOL WITH ME RIGHT AROUND, I DON'T LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I DIDN'T GET THE LETTER.
I LIVE OFF OF 1 99 AND I'M AFFECTED BY THE TRAFFIC NOW AND WE CAN DRIVE DURING THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC CAUSING TIMES.
AND YOU CAN SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE.
BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US
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TO UNDERSTAND IMPLICATIONS IF WE'RE NOT LIVING IT.SO I DON'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENS OFF OF LIMMER LOOP.
I DON'T LIVE UP THERE, I DON'T HAVE THAT SHARED EXPERIENCE.
BUT I FEEL LIKE I CAN SPEAK IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY REGARDING THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I AM AFFECTED BY TRAFFIC NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT OTHERS DO THAT ARE HERE.
AND, AND THAT'S BEFORE ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVEN THOUGH WE CAN SAY 1 99 IMPLOSION AND RE REDEVELOPMENT WON'T HAVE A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT, BUT ANYONE THAT'S GOING SOUTH ON 1660 AND WANTS TO TAKE 1 99 AS YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN 79 OR GO DOWN SOUTH 1660.
SO, SO IT WILL IMPACT, JUST, JUST TO CORRECT YOU, I DIDN'T SAY IT WOULDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT.
I SAID IT DOESN'T TOUCH THIS SITE.
AND I SAID WE, I SAID THAT NOT YOU ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FOR THE OTHER USES.
I'M, I'M JUST AN ENGINEER AND I JUST LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE DATA SUGGESTS THAT THIS IS LESS THAN THOSE OTHER USES YOU DESCRIBED.
I THINK IT'S JUST ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THE PEAK HOUR TRIP DATA FOR THE FUNERAL HOME COMPARED TO THOSE OTHER USES IF THAT'S MORE HELPFUL THAN THE THE PEAK DAY TRIP.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE ITE MANUAL SAYS ON THE TRIPS ON A FUNERAL HOME? I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
THE IT E MANUAL DOESN'T HAVE ONE, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A FULL BLOWN TIA.
SO I THINK IN SAYING THAT IT'S COMPARED TWO TEXT THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THE ITE MANUAL ACTUALLY HAS A TRIP GENERATION COUNT FOR A FUNERAL HOME BECAUSE IT DOESN'T YEAH.
OUR, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS CAME UP WITH THAT, WITH THAT NUMBER.
YEAH, I THINK THE TIA WOULD'VE TO BE THROUGH TXDOT, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, IT WOULD BE IN CONCERT THAT ROADWAY IS GOING TO BE DONE IN PART TXDOT IS LOOKING AT IT.
UM, THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AND THE CITY IS ALSO, THAT'LL BE A MULTI-REGIONAL TIA.
BUT THIS, UM, SUP DOES NOT HAVE AN APPROVED TIA AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS ITEM YET.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEFINITIVELY STATE IF IT IS MORE OR LESS IF THE REQUEST IS STILL TO TRY TO POSTPONE AND COME BACK AT A LATER TIME.
UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE EITHER A DATE SPECIFIC OR WE AGAIN HAVE TO PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THIS AGAIN.
UM, AND I COULD TELL YOU THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TIME TO SUBMIT A TIA AND HAVE ENGINEERING REVIEW THIS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
IT'S A GREAT NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHICH Y'ALL ARE PLANNING AND WANT TO DO WITH THIS LAND.
I HAD, I ADMIRE AND, AND, AND THANKFUL AND, AND HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THIS HERE OR SOME OTHER LATER DAY.
BUT THAT LOCATION IS NOT VIABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND MY PERSONAL OPINION AND AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND FROM MY TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE RETIRED.
I MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE AGENDA ITEM 5.1.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STEWART, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS TO DISAPPROVE ITEM 5.1.
I THANK YOU Y'ALL FOR COMING OUT HERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT FOR THIS AS WELL.
ITEM 5.2, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
PROPERTY KNOWN AS 2 5 9 9 INNOVATION BOULEVARD LOT ONE BLOCK A OF THE IRONWOOD SUBDIVISION TO ALLOW A DATA CENTER IN THE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT AS IT WAS JUST STATED, THIS IS FOR A, EXCUSE ME, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A DATA CENTER AT 2 5 9 9 INNOVATION BOULEVARD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE, AN AERIAL MAP OF THE LOCATION.
AND THEN OUR NEXT MAPS ON THE LEFT, YOU HAVE OUR ZONING SHOWING THAT IT IS LI AND THEN THE, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN SHOWING THAT IT DOES MATCH UP, UM, TO OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING A DATA CENTER TO THE WESTERNMOST
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PROPERTY.UM, WITHIN THAT IRONWOOD DEVELOPMENT DATA CENTER WAS ADDED TO THE UDC IN FEBRUARY OF 2024 WITH THE REQUIREMENT TO GAIN SUP APPROVAL FOR A DATA CENTER USE.
THE UM, SUP PERMITS ARE EVALUATED WITH THE INTENT THAT SOME LAND USES MAY BE APPROPRIATE IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS OR ESSENTIAL FOR PROVIDING A PUBLIC SERVICE, BUT THEY REQUIRE SPECIAL ATTENTION TO FIND IF THEY WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
USES PERMITTED BY THE A SPECIFIC USE REVIEW OR NOT USES BY RIGHT, BUT USES THAT MAY BE APPROVED IF THE APPLICANT SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS APPROPRIATE AT A CERTAIN TIME.
THE UDC FURTHER STATES THAT ZONING REGULATION, LAND USE, IMPLEMENTS, COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS PROMOTES SOUND PLANNING.
PRACTICE PROTECTS PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND ENSURES THE RIGHT THING STAYS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THIS REQUEST FOR A DATA CENTER AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF US 79 AND INNOVATION BOULEVARD IS IN LINE WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND EXISTING INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
GIVEN THAT THIS SITE IS BOUND BY, UM, EITHER LARGE RIGHTS OF WAY LIKE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY CURRENTLY, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING A LARGE PENSKE DEALERSHIP, UH, THE REQUEST FOR A DATA CENTER USES IN COMPLIANCE WITH HU'S LONG-TERM USE AND ECONOMIC GOALS THAT ARE STATED IN THE HU SOAR 2040 PLAN.
A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ALONG WITH THE SITE PLAN BUILDING PERMITS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING.
ABSENT OUT NOTICES TO ALL FIVE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT FALL WITHIN A 600 FOOT BUFFER AND TO DATE STAFF RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SUP WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE BUILDING SHALL INCLUDE HIGH QUALITY DESIGN ALONG PUBLIC FACING FACADES.
ANY ASSOCIATED SUBSTATIONS SHALL BE PLACED TO MINIMIZE FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET AND BE FENCED WITH THE MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL AT THE PERIMETER.
AND SECURITY FENCING SHALL BE VISIBLE, APPEALING, AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE GATEWAY OVERLAY DESIGN CRITERIA AS LISTED IN THE UDC.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME AND DO THEIR PRESENTATION PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS AMANDA BROWN WITH HD BROWN CONSULTING.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.
AS JOHN MENTIONED FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DA DATA CENTER, UM, GENERAL LOCATION MAP, WE'RE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INNOVATION BOULEVARD AND 79, UM, VERY CLOSE, JUST WEST OF STATE HIGHWAY ONE 30.
OUR FUTURE LAND JUICE MAP IS EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
UM, AND OUR CURRENT ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
WE'RE SURROUNDED TO OUR NORTH AND UM, EAST WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH.
THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, BUT THOSE ARE COMPOSED OF INDUSTRIAL USES.
THEY WERE JUST GIVEN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING UPON THEIR ANNEXATION.
UM, AND THEN ETJ TO THE WEST AND THEN 79 TO THE SOUTH.
SO THIS IS A VERY CONCEPTUAL KIND OF SITE CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA OF HOW THE BUILDING MAY LAY OUT ON THE SITE.
AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED IN THE STAFF CONDITIONS, WHICH WE ARE AMENABLE TO.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN, DOES THIS WORK? OKAY.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THE TREE AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERING ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY.
THIS IS A BUFFER ZONE THAT'LL BE COMPRISED OF BI AND TREE PLANTINGS.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE SORT OF ARCHITECTURALLY, UH, HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THIS BUILDING THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT, THERE'LL BE, UM, EXTENSIVE TREE PLANTINGS AND, AND GROOMINGS ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY AS WELL.
I ALSO WANT TO, UM, POINT OUT THE, UH, EQUIPMENT AREA TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING, UM, SET BACK FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL.
SO THAT WILL, IN ADDITION TO BEING TO THE REAR OF THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING, WE'LL ALSO BE SCREENED AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THE, UM, SORT OF CORNER OF THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE INTERSECTION IS SORT OF A, AN OFFICE, UM, OFFICE FLEX SPACE AS WELL.
THAT'LL BE INCLUDED AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
SO THESE ARE SOME, UH, IMAGES TO SHOW ARCHITECTURAL INTENT
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OF WHAT THIS BUILDING MAY LOOK LIKE.WE, UM, ARE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED SPECIFIC RENDERINGS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UM, BUT THIS WILL GIVE YOU A, A GOOD IDEA OF THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY, UM, THAT YOU CAN EXPECT AT THIS LOCATION.
THIS IS, UM, UH, A DATA CENTER THAT ATTRACTS HIGH TECH CLIENTS.
UH, THIS IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY ONE OWNER, WHICH MAINTAINS A HIGH QUALITY OF SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
UM, AND ALSO A QUALITY OF SERVICE TO THE LITTLE LAND ITSELF.
SO THE LANDSCAPING, THE MANAGEMENT OF, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT'S A UNIQUE COMPONENT TO THIS PARTICULAR, UM, TYPE OF DATA CENTER IS THAT IT IS MORE HUMAN CENTRIC THAN MANY DATA CENTERS THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE KIND OF MORE WALLED OFF.
UM, AS I'D MENTIONED IN THE SITE PLAN SLIDE, THERE IS SORT OF AN OFFICE FLEX AREA AND THAT'S INTENDED TO WHERE CLIENTS AND CU CUSTOMERS CAN COME INTO THE BUILDING AND TALK TO IT PROFESSIONALS IN PERSON.
AND I THINK THAT'S A UNIQUE COMPONENT IN THE WAY THAT, THAT THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED ARCHITECTURALLY.
SO YOU'LL SEE GLAZING, UM, ALONG ALONG THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FACADE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PLANNED TO BE ALONG IN INNOVATION.
YOU'LL SEE LANDSCAPING, YOU'LL SEE SIDEWALKS, YOU'LL SEE SORT OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND CANOPIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALONG THAT FACADE AS WELL.
SO IN, IN SUMMARY, UM, GENERALLY JUST HIGH QUALITY EXTERIOR FACADES, REALLY FOCUSING ON ENSURING THOSE TO BE GEARED TOWARDS INNOVATION IN 79, UM, INCLUDING GLAZING SCREENS, UM, SCREENING BOTH IN TERMS OF FENCING AND TREES AND LANDSCAPING.
UM, THIS DEVELOPER HOLDS ITSELF TO A HIGH ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY WITH TIER FOUR AND SET EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS UM, AN EMISSION STANDARD NATIVE LANDSCAPING.
UM, DATA CENTERS GENERALLY PROVIDE HUGE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO CITIES.
THIS WILL BE A $500 MILLION MINIMUM INVESTMENT INTO THIS PROPERTY, ADDING TO THE PROPERTY TAX, UM, FOR IN THE COFFERS OF THE CITY OF HURO.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THE HUGE ECONOMIC BENEFITS THAT THESE FACILITIES HAVE, THEY'RE VERY LOW USERS ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN A CITY AS WELL.
UM, LOW IMPACT ON SCHOOLS, FIRE POLICE, GENERALLY LOW WATER USER, LOW WATER AND WASTEWATER USERS AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE FACILITIES ON A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, SO REUSING WATER THERE AS WELL.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER AND THE DEVELOPERS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT $500 MILLION INVESTMENT, IS THAT OVER A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME OR, UM, IT WILL BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, THE FIRST PHASE PHASE.
SO, AND CONSTRUCTION'S INTENDED TO START IN 2026.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING ON THIS SITE OR OTHER SITES? UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR EXPANSION.
OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE THAT THIS IS SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO.
UM, BUT THAT'S VERY, VERY DEPENDENT ON, UH, ENERGY AVAILABILITY.
AND YOU DESCRIBED THIS AS AN EM, AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
WE, THAT'S OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
MY QUESTION IS, IS ARE YOU GONNA HAVE SERVERS AND HOW MANY LARGE SERVERS OR JUST A FEW? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE AND JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THE COMPANY OR RUNNING THE SITE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT DATA, DATA MININGS DATA CENTER.
SO IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEES, WELL YOU CALL IT AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, SO IS IT AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER OR IS IT A DATA MINING SERVER BANK? IT'S A DA, IT'S A DATA CENTER.
THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER IS SOME, IS A DESIGNATION THE CITY HAS PUT ON THIS SITE.
HOW MANY STORIES? UM, TWO OR THREE.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED HER? HOW MANY STORIES? OH, THANK YOU.
ALL THE BUILDING WOULD BE, AND WE'LL OF COURSE BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS OF THE CURRENT ZONING OF LI.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT WILL BE, UH, DRAWN.
SPEAKING TO YOUR MICROPHONE MORE PLEASE.
OH, SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU COULD HEAR ME.
HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY ARE Y'ALL GOING TO BE DRAWING FROM THE CITY'S POWER GRID? I DON'T THINK WE KNOW AT THIS POINT.
THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WITH ON ENCORE ARE ONGOING.
UM, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN QUITE FIGURED OUT YET.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME UP.
IS THAT BE THAT MUCH
THAT'S A FAIRLY RELATIVELY LONG PROCESS IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH ENCORE, IF SHE DOESN'T MIND COMING UP.
UM, WE, MY NAME IS MANDY SQUIBB AND I'M WITH SLS CONSULTANTS.
MY NAME IS MANDY SQUIBB AND I'M WITH SLS CONSULTANTS.
UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ENCORE.
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CURRENTLY ABOUT 40 MEGAWATTS OF UTILITY POWER.UM, WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN, UM, UH, EARLY INDICATIONS THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AS WELL AS PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE BY ENCORE.
SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING YOUR OWN POWER GRID OUT THERE? OH, I'M SORRY.
SO, SO NO, ONE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SITE IS THAT THERE'S NO ONSITE SUBSTATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS SOME LARGE CAMPUSES DO HAVE THEIR ONSITE SUBSTATION, WE WOULD NOT.
WILL THERE BE A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF 79 SERVICE ROAD, I'LL CALL IT OVER 79.
WILL THERE BE A UH, RIGHT TURN LANE INTO YOUR PROPERTY FROM THE 79 SIDE NINE? WE HAVEN'T, I, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW YET.
UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT, THAT FAR DOWN THROUGH OUR REVIEW FOR THE ENGINEERING PHASE OF THIS.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT.
YES, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC THERE IS A D CELL.
WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC A WHOLE LOT, BUT TRAFFIC THERE IS A CRAZY OKAY, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS WILL BE A VERY, VERY, I MEAN, IT REALLY WILL BE A VERY, VERY LOW TRAFFIC USING, UM, FACILITY.
THE ONLY COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, IN ADDITION, SHE DID MENTION THE PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, BUT THIS DOESN'T GENERATE ANY SALES TAX FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT'S THE ONE ONLY, WELL, ONE OF THE NEGATIVE THINGS I ALSO, I WAS TALKING ABOUT LOCATION OF THE OTHER ONE.
I'M NOT THRILLED ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS EITHER FOR THIS CITY, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING DOWN ONE 30 AND LOOKING AT HURO AND SEEING A DATA CENTER, THAT'S NOT THE MOST INVITING THING TO WOO-HOO, LET'S GO TO HURO.
YOU KNOW, BUT THERE COULD BE WORSE IS WHAT IT ALSO, RIGHT.
SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, BALANCE IT OUT.
SO I'LL SAY IF THEY, IF THEY PUT THE ONE BUILDING THAT THEY JUST SHALE US UP THERE, I'M ALL IN FAVOR.
THAT IS A GOOD LOOKING BUILDING.
I'M GLAD THAT IT'S NOT 65 FEET TALL.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET USED TO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LAND AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START BUILDING UP.
I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
LET'S NOT ENCOURAGE THEM TO BUILD UP
WELL, ALRIGHT, GO UP IN HEIGHT.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR I GUESS STAFF AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR NOISE ABATEMENT, EITHER THROUGH THE CITY UDC, IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR DATA CENTERS WHICH CAN REACH 90 TO A HUNDRED DB? UM, AND, AND WITHIN, WITH, WITHIN LOCAL AREAS? I KNOW WE ALREADY, WE HAVE A DATA CENTER GOING IN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CODE.
UH, ASHLEY HERE, JOHN, ON WHAT SOUND DEBATE IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR DATA CENTERS? 'CAUSE THEY ARE, ARE ALLOWED.
SO WHAT IS, I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO IT.
UM, SO WE WILL BE, UM, PURSUING EXTENSIVE ACOUSTIC STUDIES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND I THINK IN ADDITION TO THAT, JUST DUE TO ITS LOCATION BEING AT ONE 30 AND 79, WE'RE NOT NEAR ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, WE EXPECT IT TO BE, UM, NOT AFFECTING ANYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE TESTING IS YOUR GENERATOR TESTING? CORRECT? THAT HAPPENS.
WHAT'S YOUR CADENCE FOR THAT? MONTHLY, QUARTERLY? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATES.
WELL, AND AT TIMES THAT YOU NEED THAT POWER REQUIREMENT FOR THE DATA MINING.
SO IF YOUR CUSTOMERS TAKE OFF, THE NOISE LEVEL GOES UP 'CAUSE YOUR GENERATOR'S RUNNING.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, NO, NOT POWER RATE.
SO THE, SO THE PRIMARY NOISE IS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE GENERATORS.
THE GENERATORS ARE ACTING IN A COMPLETE BACKUP, UM, CAPACITY.
SO THE PRIMARY POWER IS COMING FROM DISTRIBUTION FROM THE ELECTRICAL UTILITY.
SO IT'S ONLY IN A POINT OF, OR IT'S ONLY DURING THE TESTING, UM, WHICH IS STILL TDBD OR TBD, BUT WE CAN ASSUME, YOU KNOW, AROUND A MONTH, ONCE A MONTH TESTING AND THEN WHENEVER THE POWER, YOU KNOW, GOES OUT DUE, YOU KNOW, TO SOME STORM OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO WHENEVER THE FACIL AND THE FACILITY, UM, IS IN USE, IT'S NOT GETTING ITS POWER GENERALLY FROM, UH, THE BACKUP GENERATORS.
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WHAT'S THE DURATION OF THE TESTING? GENERALLY? AN HOUR.HOW LONG IS IT? SO, SO IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE A FULL DAY ON A CADENCE OF SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF GENERATORS GO ON, YOU KNOW, DURING HOURS ONE AND TWO.
A LITTLE PUSHBACK THAT I DISAGREE THAT ONLY THE GENERATORS CAUSE NOISE.
UM, THE SERVERS THEMSELVES CAUSE NOISE.
THE HVAC SYSTEM THAT RUNS THE COOL, THIS LIQUID COOLING AND ALL THAT.
UM, I'VE GOT DATA HERE SHOWING 96 DB, UM, AND SOME TESTS AND I AGREED THAT'S NOT YOU GUYS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT 90 TO 100 DB LEVELS, 90 TO 100 DEGREE DB LEVELS ARE QUITE COMMON IN DATA CENTERS PERIOD ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
I'M SURE IT ALL ARE DOING ALL THE NOISE ABATEMENT.
I JUST WANT THIS BOARD TO KNOW AND CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH DATA CENTERS.
UM, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A, A BIG, UH, BACKLASH IN A GOOD WAY FROM 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THINGS CAME OUT AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND WE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE OF THAT.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE GENERATORS ON A TRIAL BASIS, THAT'S NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT.
IT'S THE EVERYDAY RUNNING OF SERVERS, COMPUTERS MAKE NOISE, THE COOLING WILL MAKE NOISE.
THE POWER, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CERTAINLY ARE CORRECT.
SO IN ADDITION TO GENERATORS, UM, THERE ARE MECHANICAL UNITS, UM, CHILLERS TO BE SPECIFIC, UM, THAT DO GENERATE NOISE.
DEFINITELY NOT TO THE SAME LEVELS, UM, OF GENERATORS.
UM, UH, AMANDA MENTIONED ACOUSTICAL STUDIES.
UM, WE WILL BE DOING ACOUSTICAL STUDIES BOTH FROM AN EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR PERSPECTIVE.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN A DATA CENTER, IT IS QUITE LOUD.
UM, RARE
EMPLOYEES ARE IN THOSE AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS TESTING.
BUT STUDIES WILL BE DONE, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN PROCESS.
UH, FIRST OFF, AMANDA, CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON YOUR PRESENTATION TO THE SITE LAYOUT? THERE WE GO.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY HAVING BUILDINGS TO THE NORTHEAST ON, ACROSS THE FLOODPLAIN AND DRAINAGE CREEK, UH, BUILDINGS TO THE NORTHEAST THAT WOULD SERVE AS NOISE BUFFERS.
CORRECT? FOR ANYTHING, SINCE THE EQUIPMENT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS, THE SOUND WOULD BE GENERATED IN A NORTH OR NORTHEAST DIRECTION, BUT THERE WOULD BE BUILDINGS THERE AND AS, AS WE HOPEFULLY ALL KNOW, THERE ARE NO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES NORTH OF THIS.
IT, UH, AS FAR AS THE DECIBEL LEVELS, UH, BY MY GUESS ABOUT 300 FEET SOUTH OF THERE IS 120 DECIBEL TRAIN 26 TIMES A DAY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY RECOLLECTION ON THAT.
WE HAVE NO POWER OVER THE FEDERAL.
I I UNDERSTAND RAILROAD COMMISSION.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS COMPARABLE.
UM, ONE'S RUNNING 24 HOURS, ANOTHER ONE'S RUNNING 10 HOURS OF ACTUAL TRAIN TO THE CITY.
SO TWO AND A HALF X TIMES CONTINUING.
UM, AS FAR AS THE WRITE IN, WRITE OUT THAT COMMISSIONER WIRTZ MENTIONED, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SITE LAYOUT IS GOING TO BE ON THE OFF RAMP.
FROM 79, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT PROBLEM, RIGHT? YES.
SO IF IT IS ON THE RAMP, IT WOULD BE A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST, WE HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THIS FOR REVIEW AT THE CITY YET, SO UN UNDERSTOOD.
I'M JUST KIND OF LOOKING AHEAD.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY, PROBABLY EXPLORE A RIGHT AT INNOVATION, A RIGHT TURN LANE AT INNOVATION.
AH, INSTEAD OF DOING IT ON THE RAMP BECAUSE I THINK THE RAMP COULD CAUSE SOME HEARTBURN WITH TDOT.
IF YOU PUT A RIGHT TURN LANE IN THERE, YOU COULD DO IT, BUT IT'S STILL A RAMP.
DO THEY ALLOW RIGHTS OFF OF RAMPS? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
UM, BUT AS A, AS A FALLBACK POSSIBLY AT INNOVATION, PUTTING A RIGHT TURN THAT SHOULD WORK SINCE THAT IS A EXISTING ROAD
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COMING IN THAT'S NOT HERE.SO LET'S SAY THAT THE, THIS SUP IS APPROVED, UM, THE NEXT STEP THEN IS THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN PLOTTED.
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO UPDATE A TIA MODEL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN WORK WITH TECH DOT LOOK AT A FEW OTHER THINGS, SEE WHAT THEY WILL NEED AND THEN THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED.
UM, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT TURN LANE AND IT HAS TO BE DEDICATED, THAT'D BE REFLECTED IN SEPARATE INSTRUMENTS SO WE'RE NOT MESSING WITH THE PLAT.
AGAIN, IT WOULD ALL BE DONE THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, REVIEW PROCESS.
BUT IT WOULD ALL INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK AT AN APPROVED TIA HOW IT FUNCTIONS AND WORKING WITH UM, OUR PARTNERS IN TECH STOCK AND THEN THE BERMS AND NATIVE LANDSCAPE.
LOVE THE IDEA OF PUTTING NATIVE LANDSCAPE ON TOP OF THE BERM.
WOULD THE FENCE GO ON TOP OF THE BERM OR WOULD IT GO CLOSER TO THE BUILDING? IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING.
SO THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE SEEN.
AND IT, FROM THE ROAD IT WOULD BE KIND OF BI AND TREES LANDSCAPE BUFFERING, THEN A FENCE, WHICH BY THE WAY IS A HIGH QUALITY SORT OF MORE DECORATIVE FENCE SECURITY.
IT DECORATIVE SECURITY FOR SURE.
AND THEN THE BUILDING RIGHT AFTER THAT.
AND THEN, UM, I WOULD ASSUME SINCE YOU'VE GOT A SECURITY FENCE, YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, SOME SORT OF GATE ACCESS.
UM, WHICH I THINK COULD BE A FURTHER PROBLEM WITH ANY SORT OF ENTRY OFF OF 79 MM-HMM.
OH, YOU MEAN GATE ACCESS THROUGH THE DRIVE FOR VEHICLES? RIGHT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S CONTEMPLATED.
SO THE BASE CONCEPT, UM, WOULD NOT REQUIRE, UM, THAT SECURE, UM, INGRESS AND EGRESS OKAY.
UM, AT, AT THIS POINT THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED AND THE BASIS OF DESIGN TYPICALLY DOES NOT REQUIRE IT, WHICH IS UNIQUE, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR DATA CENTER OPERATOR AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY.
AND THEN WITH THE SECURITY FENCE, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF SECURITY PERIMETER LIGHTING? UM, WE DEFINITELY ARE NOT THAT FAR, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS REQUIRED, UM, FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT, FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, UM, THE BASIS OF DESIGN DESIGN DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT COULD BE A, I LOVE THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING OF HOW, HOW IT WOULD LOOK FROM 79 OR ONE 30 THAT IS COMPLETELY OUT THE WINDOW IF YOU'VE GOT A BILLION CANDLE POWER LIGHTS BLASTING AT PEOPLE ON THE FREEWAY.
THEY'D ALL HAVE TO BE TURNED IN EXACTLY TOWARD AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY.
PUTTED PROPERLY ANGLED PROPERLY.
IT, I WILL POINT OUT, UM, ONCE WE GET TO THE SITE PLANNING PORTION, WE DO HAVE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN OUR UVC THAT DO REQUIRE EVERYTHING TO BE SHIELDED DOWN WITH THE 30% C OF ILLUMINATION.
SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY KNOWING THE GLOW CHANGES THINGS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING DIRECTLY SHINING OUT FROM THE BUILDING.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WHEN DID YOU SAY THIS WOULD START? JANUARY, 2026 CONSTRUCTION.
HOPEFULLY MOVING A LOT OF DIRT OUT THERE.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:18 PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:19 PM ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 5.2.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ITEM 5.2.
I SECOND, UH, SHE, I, SORRY, I DID NOT, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WIRTZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD TO APPROVE ITEM 5.2 AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE DISCUSSION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY DISCUSSING ON THE MOTION DISCUSSION.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN OPEN DISCUSSION ON, ON A MOTION.
I MEAN YOU, YOU, I JUST WAS CURIOUS WHY THERE'S TWO PLATS.
THE THE 2 0 0 2 2 AND THE 2 0 9 5 5 THAT RUNS OVER THAT.
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I GUESS A FLOOD OR DRY CREEK OR FLOOD PLAIN TWO.UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE ON THE 49.
WHAT PAGE DID YOU SAY? FOUR NINE.
IF IT'S JUST R NUMBERS, THAT'S JUST THE COUNTY AND HOW THEY DID THEIR TAXES.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOME REASON THAT I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA AN ANSWER COUNTY NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON MY PART.
NOW WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WETZ AND A SECOND BY CHRIS COMMISSIONER SHERROD FOR TO APPROVE ITEM 5.2 AS PRESENTED.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
WHAT DO WE HAVE ON FRIDAY? UM, PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAILS.
WE DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED IF WE COULD GET A QUORUM POTENTIALLY.
WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THE HU UM, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THE HU FOOTBALL GAME.
WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED, IT'S AN APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS ITEM ON THE PLAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED INCONSISTENT WITH OUR TYPICAL BUT IS A UM, IT IS ONE OF THE SHOT CLOCK PLATS.
SO WE NEED TO GET THIS, UM, COMPLETED.
YEAH, IT REALLY WILL TAKE ABOUT 10 MINUTES IF YOU CAN'T BE HERE FULLY UNDERSTOOD.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE JUST HAD TO POST SOMETHING WITHIN SEVEN, TWO HOURS TO MEET OUR, UM, POSTING DEADLINES, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND WHAT TIME ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR THAT ONE? ABOUT FIVE 30 BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE TRAVELING FOR THE FOOTBALL GAME AND TRYING NOT TO COMPETE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS OCCURRING NOW THAT WE ARE NEARING ANY HOLIDAY SEASON AND ALL THE FUN ACTIVITIES AT NIGHT.
I MEAN, CAN WE CHECK IN WITH YOU? MAYBE AROUND FOUR 30, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THAT, THAT WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN LET OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET HERE THAT THE SHUTDOWN AND NOT RUSH.
SO WE'LL CONTACT AT FOUR 30 TO SAY YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE.
CAN YOU BE HERE? I'LL BE HERE.
I CAN BE HERE AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE A QUORUM.
WE, YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE FIVE THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE, SO THAT'S FINE.
CHERYL, CAN YOU BE HERE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S EARLY FOR ME, SO I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT OKAY? YEAH, JUST YEAH, LETTING PEOPLE THAT YEAH, THIS REALLY WAS SHORT NOTICE FOR SOME PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTAND.
NO, WE FULLY UNDERSTAND AS WELL.
IT WAS ONE THAT WAS NOT SUBMITTED TO OUR, UM, PROCESS NOW AND SO WE WERE A LITTLE SURPRISED BY THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE JUST NEED A QUORUM TO GET THIS DONE FOR THE CLIENT.
UH, ASHLEY, CAN I MAKE A ADD-ON TO YOUR REPORT? ABOUT A PA TEXAS? YES.
OH I DIDN'T THE CONFERENCE IN ALLEN.
HOW'D YOU LIKE IT? THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.
IF YOU GUYS GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO.
IT WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, A LOT OF LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES.
UH, YES THERE WAS SOME NETWORKING DONE, BUT WE, WE GOT TO HEAR ABOUT HOW, I GOT TO HEAR HOW TAYLOR IS WORKING WITH ALL, ALL THE CHALLENGES THEY WENT THROUGH WITH, UH, SAMSUNG AS FAR AS GETTING THAT TO THE POINT WHERE SAMSUNG ACTUALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THAT PROJECT AND THAT WAS PRETTY NEAT.
SOME STUFF WITH SAN MARCOS AND THEIR DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFICATION.
IT WAS ALL GOOD STUFF AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT IF GET A CHANCE TO ATTEND NEXT YEAR'S NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, IF I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD ANY TYPE OF EVENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY, IT'S JUST AN IDEA YOU CAN DO IT, YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PRESENTATION FROM WHOEVER ATTENDED, HIGHLIGHTING EXACTLY WHAT THEY LEARNED FROM IT.
I I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TODAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN A MORE FORMALIZED FORMAT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING IN THAT DIRECTION.
SHOULD I PREP A PRESENTATION AND PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD.
I THINK IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR YOU TO BE THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE CITIZENS TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS.
AND I THINK I, I'VE GOT MATERIALS THAT I CAN DO THAT WITH.
I JUST WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS APPROPRIATE.
OH, I SEE WHAT SHE SAYS WHEN SHE COMES BACK.
YEAH, I KINDA LIKE BOTH HAVING STAFF THAT WERE ATTENDED, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMENTS ALONG WITH
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MEMBERSHIP COMMENTS, WHETHER THAT'S ONE REPORT, IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE BOTH, BOTH PERSPECTIVES, RIGHT? SURE.ALRIGHT, IF WE HAVE NOTHING MORE, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AT 8:25 PM DO WE HAVE A PRESIDENT YET? THANK YOU EVERYONE.