[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER ]
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>> ALL RIGHT, IT IS 7:00 AND WE WILL CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2024 WE WILL START
>> NEXT, IF YOU WILL RISE, WE WILL HAVE INVOCATION TONIGHT BY
MAYOR PRO-TEM GORDON. >> OUR BELOVED FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WHICH WE HAVE TOGETHER HERE TONIGHT IN THIS BUILDING TO DISCUSS THE AFFAIRS OF OUR WONDERFUL CITY OF HUTTO. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WHICH SEVERAL OF US HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO SERVE IN THESE CAPACITIES. THE TRUST THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO US BY THE VOTERS IN THE ELECT TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE DECISIONS WE WILL BE MAKING. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE IN WATCHING TONIGHT, OR WHO WILL WATCH IN THE FUTURE. THEIR INTEREST IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE. TO LET US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES. TO HELP MOVE THE WORK OF THE CITY FORWARD. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO COME TO HUTTO, WHETHER TO MOVE HERE, BUILD YOUR, OR HELP OUR CITY GROW. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US NOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WE BE GUIDED AND DIRECTED IN A VERY COOPERATIVE WAY, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUR MINDS, THAT WE MAY ABLE TO SPEAK WITHIN OUR HEARTS AND ULTIMATELY MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY STAFF AND THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN AND GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS WORK . WE ASK FOR THESE THINGS NOW IN THE NAME OF JESUS
CHRIST. AMEN. >> JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[5.1. Veterans Day - November 11 ]
>> NO, COUNCIL, JOIN ME IN FRONT FOR TWO PROCLAMATIONS.
>> DO NOT GET ME ONE THAT I CAN WALK AROUND WITH.
>> THERE ARE MEMBERS FROM OUR VETERANS GROUP THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, AMERICAN LEGION, OTHER VETERANS?
>> LET'S GET YOU GUYS OUT IN FRONT HERE. JOHN, HOW ARE YOU? COME ON UP. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING VETERANS DAY. WHEREAS, IN 1954, PRESIDENT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER SIGNED THE FIRST VETERANS DAY PROCLAMATION CALLING ON OUR NATION TO "PAY APPROPRIATE HOMAGE TO THE VETERANS OF ALL ITS WARS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED SO MUCH TO THE PRESERVATION OF THIS NATION," AND WHEREAS, THE WORDS OF THAT FIRST PROCLAMATION STILL RING TRUE, "LET US SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF ALL THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY, ON THE SEA, IN THE AIR AND ON FOREIGN SHORES, TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM, AND LET US RECONSECRATE OURSELVES TO THE TASK OF PROMOTING AND ENDURING PEACE SO THAT THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN," AND WHEREAS, THE CITIZENS OF TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CONTINUE TO LIVE IN FREEDOM BECAUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SACRIFICES MADE BY THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES IN TIME OF NATIONAL PERIL, AND WHEREAS, WILLIAMSON COUNTY RANKS 10TH IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, HOUSING APPROXIMATELY 38,000 VETERANS WHO, BY THEIR CONTINUED DEVOTION TO THE HIGHEST IDEALS OF CITIZENSHIP, CONSTITUTE A FOUNDATION OF BOTH THE STRENGTH AND PROGRESS OF THIS STATE, NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, DO HERBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 11, 2024 AS VETERANS DAY. AND ENCOURAGE ALL HUTTO RESIDENTS TO OBSERVE WITH APPROPRIATE CEREMONIES AND ACTIVITIES THE SACRIFICES AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR VETERANS WHO FOUGHT FOR PEACE AND DEFENDED DEMOCRACY IN OUR LAND AND ABROAD.
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>> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SOME THINGS
COMING UP? >> THANK YOU EVERYBODY. WE ARE VERY HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS HONOR FROM THE CITY. WE DO HAVE OTHER EVENTS COMING UP. SUNDAY, FOR VETERANS, OUR DUFFEL BAG AS WELL. I HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF YOU GUYS THERE.
>> THANK YOU. >> IS THAT LOUDER THAN NORMAL?
[5.2. National GIS Day - November 20 ]
>> I AM NOT SURE WHO TO CALL UP FOR THE NATIONAL GIS DAY. TALK? I.T.? ENGINEERING? MATT WILL HAVE SOME STUFF TO TEACH US ABOUT HERE, I THINK. WASN'T GIS ONCE WHEN YOU WENT AND TOOK THE CLUES AND WENT FOR THE -- OH! THAT IS GEOCACHING. SORRY.
OKAY. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING GIS DAY. WHEREAS, GIS DAY IS CELEBRATED ON NOVEMBER 20, 2024, AS A DAY DEDICATED TO SHOWCASING, EDUCATING, AND INSPIRING OTHERS, AND WHEREAS, GEOGRAPHY HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCED THE SETTLEMENT, HISTORY, AND CULTURAL HERITAGE OF HUTTO, TEXAS, OUR NATION, AND HUMANITY AS A WHOLE, AND WHEREAS, UNDERSTANDING, MANAGING, UTILIZING, AND SHARING GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION IS VITAL FOR THE EFFICIENT USE OF CITY RESOURCES, ONGOING ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND EFFECTIVE DECISION-MAKING BY THE CITY, AND WHEREAS, GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS, GIS, TECHNOLOGIES SERVE AS A POWERFUL TOOL FOR ENHANCING EMERGENCY SERVICES, HOMELAND SECURITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, CRIME MAPPING, HEALTHCARE, LONG-TERM PLANNING, AND MUCH MORE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, MIKE SNYDER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 20, 2024, AS "GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS (GIS) DAY" IN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF GIS IN OUR DAILY LIVES. PROCLAIMED THIS 7TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2024.
>> US MORE ABOUT IT SO PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN LEARN MORE. JUST A LITTLE. FOR INSTANCE, HOW WOULD -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC, I WOULD PUBLIC KNOW, WHAT IS GIS AND THEY GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND ARE LOOKING AT THINGS? IS IT THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR PARCELS? WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY LOOKING FOR THAT IS GIS?
>> I GUESS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WHEN PEOPLE GO ON TO OUR CITY'S WEBSITE OR A LOT OF DIFFERENT WEBSITES TO FIND GIS DATA, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR MAPS, SPECIFICALLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, THE BOUNDARIES AND SHAPES, THE COLORS, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS PUT INTO THE MAPPING SYSTEM. WE USE GEO-LOCATED ITEMS SO THAT IT IS ACTUALLY REAL-WORLD DATA. SO WE LOCATE THINGS LIKE MANHOLES, WE LOCATE WATER VALVES, WE LOCATE BUILDINGS, PROPERTY LINES, WE LOCATE ROADWAYS, ALL OF THAT STUFF SO THAT WHEN WE DO OUR MAPPING AND PLANNING, OUR GROWTH STRATEGIES, IT IS ALL THERE. ISD, THE COUNTY, THE STATE LEVEL, THE NATIONAL LEVEL DOES IT. EVERYBODY IS DOING GIS. I DO NOT KNOW -- DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
>> GIS IS IN GOOGLE. THE PINS THAT YOU DROP, SO WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT HUTTO CITY HALL, WHERE IT IS, THAT WOULD BE A GIS SHAPE.
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>> THREE, TWO, ONE. THANK YOU. CRATE.
[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS ]
>> ALL RIGHT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS. CITY MANAGER, YOU ARE UP.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF HUTTO.
JAMES EARP, FOR THE RECORD. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT OUR QR CODE AND THE QR CODE WILL TAKE YOU TO A LINK THAT GIVES YOU INFO ON EVERYTHING I TALK ABOUT IN MY ANNOUNCEMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH AND THIS IS WHEN WE PULL UP AND INTRODUCE TO THE PUBLIC OUR NEW HIRES THAT ARE JOINING TEAM HUTTO. SO WE HAVE TWO OF THE THREE HERE IN PERSON TONIGHT. BUT THE FIRST ONE WAS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US. THE FIRST, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN WELCOMING LORRAINE HAYNES, AS A UTILITY TECHNICIAN IN THE PUBLIC WORK UTILITIES. LIVING IN HUTTO FOR OVER 20 YEARS, A HUSBAND TO HIS WIFE SIERRA AND FATHER TO SON PRINCE. A PERSONAL TRAINER FOR FOUR YEARS, HE DOES HAVE DREAMS AND AMBITIONS TO GROW HERE AND HIS ROLE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND CONTINUE TO WORK AND MAKE A CAREER HERE. NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU RYAN -- IF YOU COULD COME UP FROM. JOIN ME IN WELCOMING HIM TO TEAM HUTTO.
>> WORKS DEPARTMENT AS A UTILITIES TECHNICIAN AND CURRENTLY LIVES WITH HIS WIFE AND THREE DAUGHTERS WHO ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE SUPPORTING HIM, EITHER WAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> EQUIPMENT FOR 10 YEARS BEFORE CHOOSING TO JOIN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND IN HIS OFF TIME HE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY, FISHING, GOLFING, AND WATCHING HIS DAUGHTER CHEERLEAD. AND LASTLY IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TO TEAM HUTTO, EMILY -- . EMILY COMES TO US FROM TEMPLE WHERE SHE DECIDES WITH HER HUSBAND AND THEIR BELOVED DOG. A PROUD EDGEWOOD OF TEXAS A&M. UNIVERSITY'S BACHELOR OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION IN MARKETING AND HAS ALTERNATED A DIVERSE CAREER IN RECRUITING, DATA, AND ANIMALISM. SHE LOOKS FORWARD TO MAKING A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IS JOINING US AS THE BUSINESS RESOURCE SPECIALIST. WELCOME
>> THANK YOU! WELCOME TO THE TEAM.
>> GOING TO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS. FIRST, WE WANT TO RAISE AWARENESS THAT THE LIBRARY OR WILL BE CLOSED THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 8, FOR TRAINING. CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED FROM 11:00 UNTIL 2:00 FOR THE STATE STAFF THANKSGIVING LUNCHEON. WE ARE THRILLED TO INVITE EVERYONE TO THE MUCH ANTICIPATED RENOVATION OF FRITTS PARK. COME OUT TOMORROW, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 8 AT 1:45. IS IT RAIN OR SHINE? OKAY. BARRING SEVERE WEATHER WE WILL BE OUT THERE. COME OUT WITH YOUR PONCHO. IT IS FRIDAY, 1:45 AT FRITTS PARK. CELEBRATING THE IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY. THE PROJECT WILL TURN THE PARK INTO A PREMIER DESTINATION. FEATURING A BRAND-NEW SPLASH PAD, A THRILLING PUMP TRACK AND SKATE PARK. EXPANDED SHADED PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES AND MANY MORE ATTRACTIONS. THE
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CITY WILL ALSO BE CLOSED IN OBSERVANCE OF THANKSGIVING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20. AND FRIDAY NOVEMBER 29. VETERANS DAY ALSO. I THINK. THAT IS THIS MONDAY. IT DID NOT MAKE THE LIST BUT THAT WOULD BE MONDAY. THERE IS A CEREMONY PLANNED FOR VETERANS DAY. YOU WANT TO CHECK THE WEBSITE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.NEXT WE HAVE HOLIDAYS IN HUTTO COMING UP. IT BEGINS TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT NOT LIKE SUMMER AROUND HERE AND IS STARTING TO FEEL MORE LIKE THE HOLIDAYS, SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO START HOLIDAY SHOPPING PLEASE MAKE A PLAN FOR VISITING YOUR FAVORITE HUTTO STORES FOR SHOP SMALL SATURDAY ON NOVEMBER 30. LEADER COME TO THE TREE LIGHTING AND ROOM SHOW FROM 3:30 UNTIL 8:00 P.M. TAKE PICTURES WITH SANTA, ARTS AND CRAFTS, VENDORS, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT. WE HAVE TICKETS ON SALE FOR THE 21 AND UP EVENT DECEMBER 7 FROM 5:00 UNTIL 9:00. WHETHER YOU COME DRESSED LIKE A SANTA HELPER OR SANTA HIMSELF, STROLL ALONG THE STREET IN DOWNTOWN HUTTO AND ENJOY THE SWEET CRAFT BEVERAGES. VENDORS WILL FILL THE STREETS AT THE ANNUAL MARKET, A LOT OF COMBINED EVENTS ON THESE DAYS. FROM 9:00 UNTIL 5:00 DURING THE HOLIDAY MARKET YOU WILL FIND UNIQUE GIFTS AND HANDMADE TREASURES AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL MAKERS AND ARTISANS. LASTLY, HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES. IF YOU OPERATE A SMALL MINORITY OWNED , WOMEN-OWNED OR SERVICE DISABLED VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS IN TEXAS, THE UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESS CERTIFICATION PROGRAM CAN HELP UNLOCK A WORLD OF OPPORTUNITY. THE BENEFITS OF A FREE CERTIFICATION INCLUDE BEING INCLUDED IN THE DIRECTORY, REACHING PRIME CONTRACTORS AND OTHER BUSINESSES SEEKING DIVERSE SUPPLIERS. ALSO A COMPETITIVE EDGE AT A FAIR SHOT AT STATE CONTRACTS AND OPPORTUNITIES BY EXTENDING YOUR NETWORK. WHENEVER WE HAVE TO PROCURE ITEMS THAT WE GO TO THE HUB, WE GO TO THE OFFICIAL LIST OF THE STATE AND THAT IS WHERE WE PULL THE INFORMATION FROM. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, IF YOU FIT THAT QUALIFICATION, IF YOU HAVE NOT YET GONE THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS TO BE CERTIFIED AS A HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED IS THIS, THAT YOU DO SO. MAYOR, THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
[7. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
>> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE LIGHT WILL START AS GREEN AND WHEN THERE IS 30 SECONDS LEFT IT WILL GO TO YELLOW AND THEN GOES TO RED. UNFORTUNATELY I WILL HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF.
>> MY PENMANSHIP IS NOT EXACTLY THAT COULD.
>> THAT IS WHAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT. THAT IS WHAT I'VE HEARD
ABOUT MINE. IT IS TERRIBLE. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY AND STAFF. I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHO I AM MY NAME IS JOE GONZALES AND I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE HUTTO AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND OUR 365+ MEMBERS. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE CITY IN MAINTAINING ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH AL CLAUSE AND DISPOSAL INC. NOT ONLY ONE OF THE TOP DONORS TO MANY NONPROFITS IN THE HUTTO AREA, CONTRIBUTED TO THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. WE AT THE CHAMBER SEE THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS OF HUTTO TO MAINTAIN THE PARTNERSHIP. WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND KINDLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE BROADER IMPACT THE DECISION COULD HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY, BEYOND THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU TONYA FOR EVERYTHING SHE DOES. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD
EVENING. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE BRAXTON --
>> I JUST NOTICED THAT IT SAID -- AND IF YOU WANT YOU CAN
WAIT. OR DO IT NOW. >> THIS IS FINE. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS BRAXTON AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TEXAS DISPOSAL SYSTEMS. I WAS HERE LAST MONTH AND WANTED TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER REMINDER REGARDING TEDIOUS. WE ARE A SOLID WASTE
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IN THE REGION AND HEADQUARTERED SOUTH OF HUTTO. WE HAVE AN AWARD-WINNING LANDFILL, AN AWARD WINNING RECYCLING FACILITY AND OTHER BUSINESS ASSETS. WE ARE AN EMERGING LEADER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY CONSULTING INDUSTRY. I BELIEVE THAT A TOWN LIKE HUTTO POSITION TO GROW WILL SOON BE AT A CROSSROADS THAT NECESSITATE SUSTAINABLE INNOVATION. AS YOUR CITIZENRY WILL BECOME MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR WAIST AFTER IT IS HAULED. IT WAS ENCOURAGING TO SEE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION CONSIDERING THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. BEFORE YOU GET THERE I WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF A FEW THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT IS BEEN QUITE A FEW YEARS SINCE THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED PUBLICLY. I THINK IT IS WORTH YOUR TIME TO CONSIDER A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS. THAT ENSURES THAT DUE DILIGENCE FOR YOUR CITIZENRY IS BEING DONE. SECOND, A QUESTION YOU SHOULD ASK IS , WHAT HAPPENS TO MY WAIST AFTER IT IS HAULED AWAY? OUR UNIQUE VERTICALLY -- BUSINESS MODEL ALLOWS US TO NEVER BE RELYING ON A THIRD PARTY AND ALLOWS US TO HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER SOLID WASTE. MOST IN THIS INDUSTRY DON'T OWN ALL OF THEIR DISPOSAL FACILITIES AND CANNOT VOUCH FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR WAIST AFTER IT IS HAULED. LASTLY, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER A PARTNERSHIP EQUIPPED WITH THE RESOURCES AND CAPABILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S ANTICIPATED POPULATION GROWTH. I CANNOT SPEAK FOR ANYONE BACK AND SPOKE WITH TEDIOUS INSANE WE ARE TO SPEAK TO GROW WITHIN THE CITY. IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE IN THE EVENT THAT YOU YOU DECIDE TO MAKE A CHANGE, IT TAKES TIME TO ACCOMPLISH ANY TRANSITION WITH EXCELLENCY. THANK YOU YOURTIME. APPRECIATE IT. >> NEXT WE HAVE RON.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF -- LATER THIS EVENING YOU ARE LOOKING UNDER SPECIAL REVIEW, SOME THINGS, WHAT BROUGHT IT TO THAT IS UNDISCLOSED ITEMS AND THINGS THAT WERE FOUND DURING THE UTILITY TABS , AND THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE NEED TO COVER. THAT WAS PRIMARILY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET
ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE ALSO RECEIVED ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM MILTON GUTIERREZ. JOSEPH WALTER. ASHLEY MCCOMBS. DAVID ROURKE. DESMOND JONES. -- DAVID -- I APOLOGIZE. BUSH -- MARIE SCHMIDT. WE RECEIVED ALL OF THOSE. COUNCIL HAS A COPY. GO AHEAD. NEXT. THAT BRINGS US TO
[8.1. Police Department Quarterly Update (Chief Jeffrey Yarbrough) ]
HESITATIONS. ITEM 1, POLICE DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY UPDATE.CHIEF, HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> I AM WELL MAYOR, HOW ARE YOU DOING? MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. JEFFREY YARBROUGH. I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A QUARTERLY UPDATE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON. A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO COVER TONIGHT ARE OUR STAFFING LEVELS, I WILL POINT OUT A YOU CRIME STATISTICS, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE REQUESTED AND YOU HAVE GRANTED AND HOW WE HAVE PUT THOSE TO WORK. I WANT TO TALK VICTIM SERVICES, AND A FEW NUGGETS OF HUTTO NEWS. CURRENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING WE HAVE 51 AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICERS. YOU WILL SEE FIVE VACANCIES AND SOME MIGHT THINK WHY DO YOU HAVE FIVE? THAT INCLUDES THE FOUR NEW POSITIONS YOU GAVE US WHEN WE TALKED BUDGET ITEMS. THAT IS ENDING ADDITIONAL REQUEST THAT WE HAD THAT COUNCIL GRANTED US AND WE ARE PUTTING THAT TO WORK RIGHT NOW. YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS THAT WILL COVER THAT. THERE WAS ONE WHERE WE HAD A COVER LAST YEAR AND AN OFFICER THAT LOST -- THAT LEFT THE AGENCY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- LESLIE CAME FROM HAYES COUNTY, TO US, DAKOTA CAME FROM FLORIDA, AND TRISTAN CAME FROM NEW YORK. WE ARE GETTING SOME REALLY GOOD QUALITY OFFICERS COMPLEMENT THOSE QUALITY OFFICERS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR CITY. PROUDLY SERVING THE COMMUNITY. WE ASKED FOR THREE NEW POSITIONS. THE COUNCIL GRANTED THOSE REQUESTS AND WE
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ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING RIGHT NOW OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION SPECIALIST. WE HAVE 49 APPLICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS NEED FOR THAT. AND INTERESTINGLY, I WAS TELLING A MEMBER OF COUNCIL THE OTHER DAY THAT AFTER THE POSITION CLOSED I HAD A PERSON CALL ME AND SAY, ARE YOU STILL HIRING? MY SON HAS WORKED ALL AROUND THECOUNTRY AND GRADUATED FROM UT. >> WE CLOSED IT! SO WE HAVE GOT SOME REALLY STRONG INTEREST IN COMING TO HUTTO TO SET UP THAT POSITION SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE EFFORTS AND YOU WILL SEE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THAT. FOR THE CRISIS INTERVENTION SPECIALIST WE HAD 12 APPLICANTS. WE WILL GO THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS ON THAT ONE AND HOPEFULLY OFFER A JOB AT THE END OF THE MONTH. FOR THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE ADVOCATE WE HAD 37 APPLICANTS FOR THAT AND HOPE TO DO THE SAME BY THE END OF THE MONTH. HAVING GONE THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND MAKING A JOB OFFER. MANY OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THAT WE HAVE A VACANT ANIMAL CONTROL DECISION. ONE OF OUR OFFICERS HAD A NEW ADDITION TO THEIR FAMILY AND DECIDED THAT SHE WANTED TO STAY WITH THE BABY. I UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY PRECIOUS. BUT THAT LEFT AN OPENING SO WE HAVE 24 APPLICATIONS FOR THAT AND WE ARE LOOKING TO FILL THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. CRIME STATS, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I KNOW BURGLARIES OF MOTOR VEHICLES HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY AND AROUND CENTRAL TEXAS AND BEYOND. THIS TIME LAST YEAR OR AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, BETWEEN JULY 15 AND SEPTEMBER 30 OF LAST YEAR WE HAD 30 AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE 32. SOME MAY THINK WE ARE GOING UP. BUT I WANT TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT, IN 2022 DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD WE HAD 12 IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. THAT WAS AROUND THE TIME YOU HAD THE EMERGENCE OF THESE GROUPS THAT ARE GOING AROUND CENTRAL TEXAS ANDY STATE AND BEYOND IN COMMITTING THE CAR BURGLARIES. WE WENT FROM 12 IN 2022 TO 30 LAST YEAR AND WE ARE AT 32 RIGHT NOW. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE LEVELED OUT.
MEANING THAT THERE ARE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE OF IMPLEMENTING IN OUR CITY AND YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE. JUST LIKE WE DID WITH A LOT OF RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ISSUES. WE WERE LOSING OFFICERS AND FINALLY STOPPED THE MIGRATION OUT AND LEVELED OFF AND STARTED TO ADD ADD. YOU WILL SEE OVER TIME THAT THE NUMBERS ARE LEVELING OUT AND YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE CRIME STATS REDUCED.
BURGLARIES OF A BUILDING. SOME MACY YOU HAVE 14, 18. IN ANY NEW CITY, I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES BUT WANT TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT. IN A GROWING CITY LIKE HUTTO, THE MORE BUILDINGS YOU BUILD, HOMES YOU BUILD, THE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO GO IN AND TAKE WINDOWS, DOORS, APPLIANCES, AND IF NO ONE IS LIVING THERE THAT IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY ARE HAVING. IN THE CITY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE GROWTH AND AS RAPID AS WE ARE EXPANDING IN THIS CITY, WHEN YOU THINK OF 18 IN THE LAST QUARTER, I THINK THAT IS A TESTAMENT. NOT ONLY TO WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING BUT EVEN MORE SO TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY WILL SAY SOMETHING IF THEY SEE SOMETHING. THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO CALL US AND WHEN THEY DO IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT. WHEN WE ARE TARGETING ELSEWHERE THEN WE CAN GET OUT AND -- BURGLARIES OF COHABITATION, BURGLARIES WHERE A HOME IS COMPLETELY BUILT OR SOMEONE HAS TAKEN STUFF AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN EITHER SEPARATED THEM THEIR SPOUSE OR GIRLFRIEND. YOU WILL HAVE THEM BREAK INTO HOMES. WE HAVE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE THAT. YOU SEE THOSE NUMBERS HAVE DECLINED. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THIS TIME AND THAT TIME LAST YEAR IN 2023. TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. I KNOW THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR YOU ALL, FOR US, THE COMMUNITY. IS A PROBLEM WE ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS. WE HAVE GOT AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH. I GUESS BY DEFAULT WE WILL HAVE THE ASSUMPTION OF MORE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, FROM LAST YEAR, TO THIS SNAPSHOT THIS YEAR, WE HAVE GOT 10 ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STOPS YOU WILL SEE OUR OFFICERS HAVE MADE ALMOST TWICE AS MANY. THAT SHOWS WE HAVE INCREASED OUR EFFORT TO INTERVENE AND MITIGATE SOME ISSUES BY BEING PRESENT, VISIBLE, BY GOING OUT AND RESPONDING TO A VARIETY OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS. IN ADDITION WE HAVE THE CITATIONS ISSUED. IS LISTED BUT NOT THE WARNINGS.
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A LOT OF TRAFFIC STOPS WILL RESULT IN EITHER A CITATION OR WARNING. IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS MAKING OURSELVES VISIBLE AND RESPONSIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. OUR VICTIM SERVICES AND SPECIALIST , WE ASKED FOR THESE POSITIONS OF THE COUNCIL CAME THROUGH. IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO FOR THE COMMUNITY. I WERE ONE COORDINATOR HAS HAD 360 CASES AND THE ONE CRISIS ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST HAS HANDLED 260. TRAINING, IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE OFFICERS BUT IT IS VERY NECESSARY AND VERY IMPORTANT AND IT IS A SIGH OF RELIEF WHEN YOU HAVE GOT QUALITY AND HIGHLY TRAINED OFFICERS SERVING YOUR COMMUNITY. IF YOU LOOK YOU WILL SEE DIGNITY OF POLICING. THERE IS A SAYING THAT ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP AND WHAT YOU DO AT THE TOP WILL TRICKLE DOWN. THAT IS WHY WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMAND STAFF, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE GOD A LOT OF TRAINING TO THE OFFICERS, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT COMMAND STAFF GETS QUALITY TRAINING. IT HELPS THE GENERATIONS COLLIDE. I HAVE 30 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPENSE AND WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH 30 DAYS EXPERIENCE AND WE ARE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COLLIDING, MEETING THEIR NEEDS, MAKING SURE THEY ARE MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HAD DIGNITY IN POLICING AND EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND TRAINING FOR THE DEPARTMENT IN OCTOBER. WE HAD EVERY LEADER IN THE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER YOU WERE A COMMAND STAFF, ANIMAL CONTROL, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE HAD ALL OF OUR LEADERSHIP COME IN AND TAKE PART OF THE TRAINING SO THEY CAN TAKE WHAT WE LEARNED AND APPLY IT IN THE DEPARTMENT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY ADMIRABLY.THE NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM THAT THE LIEUTENANT AND THE CHIEF ATTENDED. IT HELPED US ALIGN OUR EXPECTATIONS AND HELP THEM LEARN WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COUNCIL. OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WENT THROUGH A RECONSTRUCTION COURSE AND WE ARE NOW SELF SUSTAINABLE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT. THE TRAINING HOURS WERE OVER 5800 TRAINING HOURS COMBINED FOR THE DEPARTMENT IN 2023-24. AND I WILL SUM THIS UP WITH SOME HUTTO PD NEWS. WE HAD SOME EMAILS THAT WERE SENT TO US FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTER JUST GIVING KUDOS FOR WHAT KYLA COLEMAN IS DOING NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT THE RELATIONSHIP AND COLLABORATION THAT SHE IS PROVIDING WITH THE CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTER. WE ALSO HAD DETECTIVE VARGAS AND -- THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE -- PROGRAM DESIGNED TO RAISE MONEY TO CONTINUE SUPPORT THE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR FAMILIES. MS. EDNA -- RECEIVED SOME RECOGNITION. I GOT AN EMAIL FROM WILCO FINANCE. THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE OF HER PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THEM IN DOING SOME EVALUATIONS OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER'S ACCOUNT. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE WERE ASKING EVERYONE FOR ASSISTANCE. NOW WE ARE ONE OF THOSE THAT PEOPLE COME TO US BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE, RESOURCES, AND WE ARE BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF WHO WE ARE IN A GOOD NEIGHBOR OF WHO WE SERVE IN THE GREATER COMMUNITY. WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? GOOD REPORT, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CAMERAS? I SEEM TO REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT GOT SIDEWAYS WITH TXDOT. AND RIGHT AWAY. IN MY THINKING OF THE
WRONG THING? >> NO, YOU ARE ON POINT. WE HAVE ONE CAMERA READY UP AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME LOGISTICS WITH TXDOT. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE -- IN HUTTO TO MAKE SURE THE CURRENT BARRIERS THAT EXIST ON MAKING SURE WE GET THE ALIGNMENT DONE. ONCE WE GET THAT UP AND RESOLVED WE WILL BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE ADDITIONAL NINE WE
HAVE. >> AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING, THAT ARE HOPING FOR VIDEO OR SOMETHING, CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WITH THE CAMERAS WILL DO SO THEY CAN
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KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT? >> IT IS A LICENSE PLATE READER. AND WE WILL HAVE THE CAMERAS STRATEGICALLY PLACED THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO WHEN VEHICLES COME INTO THE CITY OR LEAVE, IF THERE IS A VEHICLE INVOLVED IN A CRIMINAL ACT IN OUR CITY OR INVOLVED IN ANOTHER CITY AND IT COMES THROUGH HUTTO, WE ARE ABLE TO GET A NOTIFICATION THAT THE VEHICLE WAS INVOLVED, FOR EXAMPLE, A MAJOR INCIDENT IN ROUND ROCK AND IT HIT THEIR CAMERAS. IT WAS ABLE TO TELL US WHEN THE VEHICLE ENTERED THE CITY HERE AND WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION. AND VICE VERSA. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CRIMES, KIDNAPPINGS, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, MURDERS THAT HAVE BEEN SOLVED BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, WHERE THE VEHICLE IS LOCATED, AND THEN IT HELPS OFFICERS CONVERGE IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THEY BELIEVE THE VEHICLES ARE ENTERING AND TRAVELING AND WE CAN KEEP THE
COMMUNITY SAFE. >> AWESOME. LOOKING FORWARD TO
[10.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments. ]
>> THANKS. >> IF I COULD ASK THAT WE MOVE
ITEM 10.1 OF. >> ANY OBJECTIONS FROM COUNCIL? HEARING NONE. WE WILL GO TO ITEM 10.1. POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS, AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.
>> MAYOR, THE COMMITTEE MET LAST WEEK AND CONDUCTED A COUPLE INTERVIEWS FOR THE CURRENT VACANCY ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH A NOMINEE OF -- GONZALEZ, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT. WE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT NAME TO FILL THE VACANCY.
>> OKAY. TO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. >> CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR
COMING. >> WELCOME ABOARD. ANY OTHER
[9.1. Conduct a public hearing for the proposed Specific Use Permit request for the property known as 140 S FM 1660, to allow a funeral home in the SD-A (Special District) zoning district. (Ashley Bailey) ]
ITEMS FOR 10.1. OKAY. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 9.1. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 140 S FM 1660 , TO ALLOW A FUNERAL HOME IN THE SD-A SPECIAL DISTRICT ZONINGDISTRICT. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. THE NIGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO TO PNC WE DID NOT GET A QUORUM SO WE RESCHEDULED. IT WAS REHEARD AT THIS WEEK'S MEETING AND WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER.
>> OKAY. WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:38 P.M.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THE SEP ON A FUNERAL HOME? I AM SEEING NONE AND I WILL CLOSE
[9.2. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-068, Adopting Updated Land Use Assumptions; Adopting Updated Capital Improvements Plans and Amending the Maximum Impact Fee to be imposed on New Development for Providing Transportation Facilities. (Matt Rector) ]
THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:38 AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.2.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2024- 068, ADOPTING UPDATED LAND-USE ASSUMPTIONS, ADOPTING UPDATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AND AMENDING THE MAXIMUM IMPACT FEE TO BE IMPOSED ON NEW DEVELOPMENT FOR PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
>> AT EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER.
THIS IS A REPEAT. WE ARE HOPING NEITHER TIME IS A TERM. YOU SAW THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER. ORIGINALLY ON SEPTEMBER 5TH. WE RESENTED THIS AND YOU ASKED US TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. THE TEAM WENT BACK AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS AND WE READ PRESENTED IT BACK TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER 12. HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE PUT OUT THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER AS FAR AS THE COST, IN EACH OF THE FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE CITY, WE COULD NOT ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION TO ADOPT IT AT THAT TIME. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE CI AC. YOU HAVE THE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THE UPDATED REPORT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAW ON SEPTEMBER 12TH. AND WE HAVE EDDIE WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS, INC. HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. SICKLY YOU WILL SEE THE SAME THING YOU SAW SEPTEMBER 12TH. AND WITH THAT I
WILL TURN IT OVER TO EDDIE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM BACK. EDDIE WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS, INC.. WE PREPARED THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE PROGRAM, THE REPORT, THE AMENDED REPORT BY WAY OF UPDATE. OR REFRESHING. WE HAVE
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A PROGRAM THAT NOW FEATURES FOUR ROADWAY SERVICE AREAS, UP FROM ONE SERVICE AREA. THAT IS BECAUSE CITY LIMITS HAVE GROWN.CONTEMPLATING ALSO FUTURE ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT, WE BROKEN INTO FOUR AND THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE LONG-TERM. WE HAVE A ROAD CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT ALIGNS WITH THE RECENTLY ADOPTED THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR CLASS FACILITIES WERE CONTEMPLATED INTO THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE CIP. THESE ARE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THAT IS WHY UCD SEGMENTED MAP THERE. THE CIP HAS ABOUT 83 PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE FOUR SERVICE AREAS TOTALING ABOUT -- MILLION DOLLARS. THE COST AT HER BUT IT TO GROWTH IS ABOUT $62 MILLION. ALL OF THIS PROVIDED BY THE PROJECTS WILL BE CONSUMED BY GROWTH OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD. IN WITH HIS TABLE HERE SUMMARIZING IS ON THE FAR RIGHT THE AMENDED OR ADJUSTED COST PER SERVICE UNIT THAT CONTEMPLATES THE BRIDGE COST. COUNTY ROAD 132. ALSO CONTEMPLATES DUFFEL COST FOR FM 1960. IN THE FRONTAGE ROAD. THE MIDDLE COLUMN WHERE THE PREVIOUS NUMBERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY EVALUATED. THE COLUMN ON THE FAR LEFT IS THE 2018 NUMBER. WITH THE FAR RIGHT NUMBER, THAT REPRESENTS THE CEILING THAT YOU CAN COLLECT ON THE COST PER SERVICE UNIT BASIS. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE TO ADOPT THE WEST SERVICE AREA, 1298 PER SERVICE UNIT AND WANT TO ADOPT THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU HAVE ROOM FOR MOVEMENT ACROSS THE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HIGH CAP. IN THE INITIAL PROGRAM, TWO COLLECTION RATES WERE ADOPTED, RESIDENTIAL RATE OF $7.84 PER UNIT. AND A NONRESIDENTIAL A $400 PER UNIT, WHICH REFLECTS ABOUT 20% AT MAX AT THAT TIME FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL AND 40% AT MAX FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
THAT IS BY WAY OF HISTORY THERE. WE DATED REPORT SOME OF THE BENCHMARKING SLIDES. THESE ARE TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE HUTTO WOULD BE RELATIVE TO SOME NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE IMPACTING PROGRAMS, DEPICTED ON THE CHART HERE FOR THE ACTUAL IMPACT FEE THAT IS BASED ON COLLECTION RATES BY EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY. THE CITIES OF ROCKWALL, PFLUGERVILLE, TAYLOR, AND GEORGETOWN. EACH CITY HAS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF SERVICE AREAS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING BY WAY OF COLLECTION RATES BY SERVICE AREA. MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU HAVE BEEN THE DARK COLOR, BASED ON THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE, WHAT THEY ARE COLLECTING. IN THE LIGHTER SHADE OF COLOR IS WHAT THEY COULD HAVE COLLECTED BASED ON THE CALCULATED MAX. IT WAS A POLICY DECISION ON WHERE THEY WERE TO COLLECT. YOU CAN SEE VARIATIONS BY COMMUNITY, BOTH ROUND ROCK IN PFLUGERVILLE HAD ONE COLLECTION RATE APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD SO IT IS UNIFORM ACROSS THE SERVICE AREAS. TAYLOR HAD ONE SERVICE AREA WHERE THEY WANTED HIGH COLLECTION VERSUS THE OTHERS. I DON'T KNOW THE THINKING BEHIND EACH ONE OF THE PROGRAMS. THEN YOU CAN SEE GEORGETOWN, THEY HAD A VARIATION OF HIGH SERVICE AREA. HERE IN HUTTO, DEPICTED IN ORANGE, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL IMPACT FEE YOU ARE CURRENTLY COLLECTING $3167 A DWELLING UNIT. THAT IS ACROSS-THE-BOARD, YOU ONLY HAD ONE SERVICE AREA AT THE TIME. HOW THAT MIGHT STACK UP TO THE MAXIMUM COLLECTION RATE , IF YOU WERE TO ADOPT THE MAXIMUM NOW. THERE IS A BUST IN THE NUMBERS HERE.
BUT THEY ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER. FOR EXAMPLE IN THE WEST SERVICE AREA WE ARE SHOWING 5294. THAT SHOULD BE 500 594. IT IS JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE BASED ON THE SERVICE. WE KIND OF TAINT THE NUMBER CRUNCH THERE. THE SERVICE UNIT EQUIVALENCY TABLE, WHICH MEASURES THE IMPACT BY LAND-USE TYPE, THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE 2017. PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF CHANGE IN TRIP GENERATION CHARACTERISTICS. THE NEW EQUIVALENCY TABLE IS ROOTED IN CURRENT DATA. TRIP GENERATION RATE DATA, LENGTH DATA, THAT CREATES THE VEHICLE MILES, SO STAFF CAN CALCULATE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. THIS DEPICTS THE IMPACT FEE BY CITY, SERVICE AREA. WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER LAND USES THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED. JUST FOR EXAMPLE PURPOSES, THIS IS A GENERAL
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LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND TO TRY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, RATHER THAN GOING WITH A CERTAIN SIZE DEVELOPMENT, WE WENT ON A PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BASIS. AGAIN, WE HAVE THE COMPARISON SERIES OF ROUND ROCK, PFLUGERVILLE, TAYLOR, GEORGETOWN. AGAIN, BASED ON ORDINANCE AND WHERE THEY ARE WITH THEIR COLLECTION RATE IN THE DARKER COLOR, ON A PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BASIS AND WHAT THEIR CEILING COULD BE WITH THE LIGHTER COLORS AND HOW WE STACK UP IN HUTTO BASED ON CURRENT ORDINANCE. AGAIN, FOR GENERAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WE ARE COLLECTING AT $400 A SERVICE UNIT, ABOUT 20% OF MAX.SHOPPING CENTER ON A PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BASIS, AGAIN THE COMPARISONS, HERE WE ARE IN HUTTO COLLECTING AT $400 A SERVICE UNIT. AGAIN, 20% OF MAX. THEN FINALLY, OFFICE, GENERAL OFFICE ON THE PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BASIS AND HOW WE ARE CURRENTLY COLLECTING IT AT 40% OF MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE.
AND WITH THAT, THAT IS THE OVERALL PRESENTATION I HAVE. I DO HAVE SOME BACKUP SLIDES FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, SOME OF THE LAND-USE ASSUMPTION STUFF, CIP STUFF. BUT I THOUGHT WE WOULD KEEP IT SIMPLE AND GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE IN TERMS OF THE ALKYLATED COST PER SERVICE UNIT, THE BOLD COLUMN IN THE FAR RIGHT, THAT REPRESENTS YOUR CEILING. AND THEN IT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW ON A COLLECTION RATE. THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUBMITTED A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS OPEN TO -- THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER UP TO THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM. THAT PUTS YOU IN PURVIEW WITH THE COLLECTION RATE. IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, THERE WAS SOME GENERAL DISCUSSION, NO DIRECTION, SOME GENERAL DISCUSSION TO COLLECT SOMEWHERE AROUND 1237 A SERVICE UNIT FOR RESIDENTIAL, 765 A SERVICE UNIT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL. NOTHING WAS FINALIZED THERE. THAT WAS THE INITIAL DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT THOSE WERE AIMED AT ACHIEVING A TARGET RESULT. FOR EXAMPLE, RESIDENTIAL SOMEWHERE AROUND $5000 PER DWELLING UNIT. SOMEWHERE IN THERE. IN THE NONRESIDENTIAL, I AM UNCERTAIN WHAT THAT WAS BASED ON. IT IS THE BASIC INFORMATION ON THE RESULTS OF THE ANALYSIS. ALL OF THIS DOCUMENTATION IS IN THE REPORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE SINCE SEPTEMBER. MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR VIEWING. WE HAVE ALIGNED FOR ALL OF THE ACQUIREMENTS IN NOTICING AND CALCULATING THE TECHNICAL BOTTOM LINE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IN THE UPDATED PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU. RUSSIANS FROM COUNCIL OR ACTION?
>> THE NUMBERS YOU GAVE TO US THAT WE BATTED AROUND LAST
TIME, WHAT WERE THOSE? >> 1237 PER SERVICE UNIT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 765 OR NONRESIDENTIAL. I DID THE MATH GOING BACKWARDS. I THINK THE ATTEMPT WAS TO GET TO $5000, OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BOWLING UNIT. THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE. THAT NUMBER WOULD ACTUALLY BE 1160 IF THAT WAS THE IDEA TO ACHIEVE A TARGET PER DWELLING UNIT. OR, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, COLLECT THE LOWEST OF THE FOUR SERVICE AREAS AND APPLY THAT ACROSS-THE-BOARD. HOWEVER YOU
DO THAT. >> I WAS THINKING IT WAS REALLY CLOSE TO THAT 1298 AND THAT WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED TOO, KEEPING
IT THE SAME ACROSS ALL FOUR. >> THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION BUT I DO NOT RECALL IF IT WAS AIMED AT A TARGET RESULT. $5000 A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT OR SOMETHING ELSE. MY RECOLLECTION IS IT WAS TARGETING SOMEWHERE IN THE $5000 RANGE.
>> I REMEMBER 4500 OR 5500. >> YES, THAT IS ABOUT RIGHT.
BASED ON THE WEST THERE, THE ORANGE, ON THE RIGHT. SO THAT WE THE 5594. IF YOU COLLECTED AT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE, 1298.
ERRONEOUSLY SAYS 5244, BUT IT IS 59, 5594.
>> BY WAY OF OTHER COMMUNITIES UPDATING THEIR PROGRAM, GEORGETOWN HAS RECENTLY ADOPTED, SORRY, THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH AN UPDATE. THEY ARE STARTING WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE ALSO HEARD THAT PFLUGERVILLE WILL BE STARTING AN UPDATE ALSO. ROUND ROCK IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, AS IS TAYLOR. WE CAN EXPECT PROBABLY THE OTHER COMMUNITY NUMBERS TO GO UP AS OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
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>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR OTHERWISE --
>> CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THEY SAID IF WE ADOPTED 1298 IT WOULD BE 5500. IF WE ADOPT THE 765, WOULD THAT BE
THE 4751? >> NO, WHAT IS SHOWING WAS THE $400 OF SERVICING IN THE DARKER GRAY. 4751 WOULD BE IN THE WEST, THE WEST SERVICE AREA, FAR RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE 1298.
>> SO IF WE DID THE SAME AND DID NOT DO THE SEPARATE
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. >> ONE ACROSS-THE-BOARD?
>> THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT. THIS IS NOT POLICY CONSIDERATION. YOU COULD HAVE ONE NUMBER OR BREAK IT UP BY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONSIDERATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT IS DEPICTED THERE IS ON THE PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT
BASIS. >> SO 4751 IS PER SQUARE FEET?
>> IF WE DID 1298. >> CORRECT.
>> -- PUBLIC HEARING. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OR ACTION? WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:52 P.M. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:52 P.M. I WILL OPEN IT BACK UP FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR ACTION.
>> FOR ME, I KIND OF LIKE HAVING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, HAVING A LOWER RATE FOR COMMERCIAL. THAN THE RESIDENTIAL. THE 12, YOU KNOW, 1298 SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH IN THE BALLPARK THAT WE WERE TALKING. 5500. FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. AND THEN IF WE DID IN THE $800 RANGE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE ON THE SHEET HERE, WHAT WOULD IT --
>> IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ROUGHLY DOUBLE.
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT UNDER ROUND ROCK.
>> IF WE DID 800. 800 TIMES 3.66, THAT WOULD BE 20 , 2928
PER THOUSAND. >> IF WE DID $800 PER SERVICE
AREA. >> AND JUST SO WE REMEMBER, THESE ARE ASSESSED WHEN AND COLLECTED WIN, ONE OF WHEN IS
THE --? >> IN GENERAL THESE ARE ASSESSED WHEN THE PLAT IS RECORDED. THEY ARE RECORDED WHEN THE BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED.
>> HOW DOES THAT WORK ON A PLAT 20 ACRES AND I SAY I WANT TO BUILD INDUSTRIAL. BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM PLATTING AND NECESSARILY HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS. SO I GUESS WHEN YOU PLAT IT YOU JUST DROP IN WHAT THE FEE IS PER 1000 AND THEN WHEN IT ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT THAT IS WHEN YOU CALCULATE WHAT THE ACTUAL FEE IS GOING TO BE?
>> YES, GENERALLY. >> AND YOU SAID IT IS COLLECTED
WIN? >> AT BUILDING PERMIT. THAT IS
WHEN YOU PAY IMPACT FEES. >> I DO NOT WANT TO STOP SOME THINGS WE HAVE GOT GOING ON, BUT WHAT DEVELOPMENTS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLATTED? LIKE WHAT
IS THE ONE TO THE WEST? >> THE IRONWOOD VELTMAN.
>> THAT IS PLATTED. SO THAT WILL NOT AFFECT THAT. DATA CENTERS, SKYBOX, ARE THEY PLATTED?
>> THEY ARE PLATTED AND THREE OF THE BUILDINGS ARE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION. >> IT WOULD AFFECT MORE THE MEGA SITE AND I GUESS ANY OTHER --
>> AND TO THAT POINT WE COULD DO THE SAME THING, IN FACT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THE SAME THING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE AS WE DID THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WE SAID WE WOULD ADOPT IT BUT IT WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL FEBRUARY, I GET THE DATE ALWAYS WRONG. FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025. SO ANYTHING PLATTED BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY OF 2025 IS STILL ON THE PREVIOUS IMPACT FEE. ANYTHING AFTER THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE NEW IMPACT FEES.
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>> OKAY. >> NEAR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE RESIDENTIAL A 1298 FEE ACROSS ALL FOUR REGIONS. IN THE -- AND THE 800 COLLECTED FEE FOR ALL NONRESIDENTIAL, MAKE IT EFFECTIVE AS OF FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025, TO CORRESPOND LIKE THE WATER/WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.
>> YOU SAID EIGHT REGIONS BUT THERE IS JUST FOUR, RIGHT?
>> FOUR REGIONS. >> 1298, FOUR REGIONS. 800, FOUR REGIONS. EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY, THREE, DO WE HAVE A
>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? A MOTION?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH AN AMENDMENT. IF ANYONE WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND 1250 AND 750. I MEAN IT IS CLOSE, BUT THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD COME TO.
>> 1250 AND 750. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE. THE MOTION AMENDMENT DIES. CAN YOU GO ONE MORE? ONE MORE SLIDE. LET ME SEE, ONE MORE. LET ME SEE, ONE MORE. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT GOES TO 2920 FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE? SHOPPING CENTER. THAT WOULD GO TO WHAT? 49, SAME THING, 4928.
>> WELL, IT HAS A DIFFERENT SERVICE AREA EQUIVALENT. SO AT 800 TIMES 6.16, THAT WOULD BE 4928. GENERALLY.
>> I AM NOT A MATH MAJOR, BUT I FOLLOW ALONG SOMETIMES. I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I WILL PUT AN AMENDMENT. FOR ME, WHEN WE DID THIS , TWO YEARS AGO, I THOUGHT IF WE KEEP THE COMMERCIAL LOWER IT WILL INCENTIVIZE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WHAT I FOUND WAS IT REALLY DID NOT INTEND VICE -- INCENTIVIZE ANYBODY. IN FACT PEOPLE SAID I COULD BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER BUT I NEED $3 MILLION TO GET IT DONE. SO THAT MADE ME THINK THEY WILL ASK FOR MONEY ANYWAY AND CREATE JUST AS MUCH TRAFFIC, ACTUALLY MORE, THEN SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE. AND EVEN IF THAT DOUBLED TO 49, THAT IS STILL LESS THAN EVERYBODY ELSE EXCEPT FOR GEORGETOWN. AND SO 1298, NOT TO MAKE YOU USE YOUR CALCULATOR, THAT IS ALMOST A TRIPLING. RIGHT?
>> +1000. >> PER 1000 SQUARE FOOT.
>> WHAT IS +1000? I WANT TO ROUGHLY BE AROUND WHERE ROUND ROCK IS.
>> 6160. >> OKAY. SO IF WE DID 1000 AT 6160, AND IF YOU GO BACK ONE SIDE, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE THE DATE OF THE WAREHOUSE, THE 1000?
>> WHICH ONE? >> THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WHICH I DO NOT MIND BEING ABOVE. WE HAVE A COUPLE MILLION SQUARE FEET. THAT SHIP SAILED FOR MOST OF IT.
>> 3660. >> SO IT IS NOT REALLY THAT MUCH HIGHER. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD JUST MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL TO 1000.
>> AND THEN KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL AT 1298.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> AND THEN, MY ONLY DISCUSSION PLAN IS THAT PUTS US A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN ROUND ROCK INDUSTRIAL, BUT LIKE I SAID WE HAVE A COUPLE MILLION SQUARE FEET THAT IS BLOWING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND THEN FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER SIDE IT PUTS US RIGHT IN LINE WITH ROUND ROCK, ABOVE GEORGETOWN, AND UNDER PFLUGERVILLE AND WITH TAYLOR. AND RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT IT IS.
>> THESE COLLECTION RATES CAN BE AMENDED. YOU KNOW, BY LAW THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE OVERALL EVALUATED EVERY 75 YEARS. DOING THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, IF WE DO THE SAME CEILING, THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, YOU DECIDE YEAR TWO, MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, YOU CAN ALWAYS POST FOR A PUBLIC
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HEARING AND DISCUSS THE ITEM AGAIN AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT.>> ALL RIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT?
>> JUST A CLARIFICATION, RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS IT IS STILL 1298 SERVICE UNIT RESIDENTIAL, 800 PER SERVICE UNIT NONRESIDENTIAL. YOU ARE JUST LOOKING TO AMEND THE COMMERCIAL. IS THAT CORRECT, TO 1000?
>> YES. YES. >> THANK YOU FOR THE
CLARIFICATION. >> ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE
>> THE MOTION PASSES 7-0. SO NOW THE MOTION IS 1298 RESIDENTIAL, 1000 COMMERCIAL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
>> AND THEN 800 FOR THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
>> IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL.
>> OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. SORRY WE DID NOT KEEP YOU LATER THAN WE
[9.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-262 approving the municipal services agreement for the proposed annexation of the 2401 Limmer Loop — Urbana at Limmer Loop tract, 20.343 acres, more or less, of land, located along Limmer Loop, west of Redfish Lane. (Ashley Bailey) ]
NORMALLY DO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 9.3. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESERVATION NUMBER R-2024- 262 APPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF THE 2401 LEMMER LOOP, URBANA AT LIMMER LOOP 20.343 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, OF LAND, LOCATED ALONG LIMMER LOOP WEST OF REDFISH LANE.
>> THIS IT ATTACHES THE SAR. WE HAD SWAPPED OUT ONE FOR A MORE RECENT ONE. SO WITH THAT, HERE IS THE TRACT, IT IS JUST NORTH OF LIMMER LOOP. THERE IS A SMALL DRIVEWAY OR FLAG TO THE PROPERTY. YOU MAY ALSO RECALL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED ABOUT A MONTH AGO BY COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOR RENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ANNEX. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE VOLUNTEER
ANNEXATION. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R-2024- 262 AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. >> FOR THE PUBLIC SITE, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL RELATED, AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THE LANE IS ORIGINALLY -- IT IS IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. THEY HAD THE POTENTIAL TO BUILD TO COUNTY RAGS AND SPECS AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL. SHOULD THE MEASURE PASS AND IT BECOMES ANNEXED IN, HE THEN ARE THEN BROUGHT INTO THE CITY, THEY WILL PAY FOR PROPERTY TAXES IN THE CITY, THEY WILL PAY FOR IMPACT FEES IN THE CITY AND HAVE TO FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE CITY. OTHERWISE, WITHOUT DOING THIS THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
>> THAT IS CORRECT, HERE. GREAT POINTS.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING ON. PLEASE CALL THE
[9.4. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-069 Approving the Annexation of the 2401 Limmer Loop — Urbana at Limmer Loop Annexation tract, 20.343 acres, more or less, of land located along Limmer Loop, west of Redfish Lane and to Establish the Base Zoning of Multi-Family (MF) District (Ashley Bailey) ]
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 9.4. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2024- 069, APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF THE 2401 LIMMER LOOP , OR BOHNE AT LIMMER LOOP ANNEXATION TRACT, 20.343 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, OF LAND LOCATED ALONG LIMMER LOOP, WEST OF REDFISH LANE AND TO ESTABLISH THE BASE ZONING OF MULTIFAMILY
>> THAT WAS NOT ME. >> THIS IS JUST NORTH OF LIMMER LOOP. I WANTED TO SHOW TWO ADDITIONAL MAPS THAT ARE IN THE PACKET AS WELL BUT WANTED TO POINT OUT INSTEAD OF JUST BULLET POINTS. THE 20 ACRES WAS ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT TO BE PART OF EMPLOYMENT. PART OF THE DISTRICT IS ALSO TO BRING IN SOME SUPPORT USES. WHAT WE SAW WITH THE ANNEXATION REQUEST IS THAT THIS REALLY WOULD BE A GOOD IN BETWEEN INTERIM LAND-USE. AND USE FOR THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE SINGLE
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FAMILY HOMES ALREADY EXISTING WITHIN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ANY FUTURE EMPLOYMENT THAT COULD HAPPEN OR EMPLOYMENT USES THAT COULD HAPPEN FURTHER WEST. WITH THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED, WE WERE LOOKING TO ANNEX THIS VOLUNTARILY WITH THE BASE ZONING MULTIFAMILY ALLOWING FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY FOR RENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY.>> OKAY WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:06 P.M. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THIS ANNEXATION? SEEING NO ONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE HEARING AT 8:06 P.M. WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR
ACTION. >> MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE O-2024- 069 INCLUDING THE APPROVING OF ANNEXATION OF THE 2401 LIMMER LOOP AS PRESENTED.
>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> TO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
>> I WILL JUST SAY I PERSONALLY LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY RENTAL VERSUS -- THERE IS TWO CATEGORIES OF MULTIFAMILY AND YOU HAD TO PICK ONE. FOR ME SINGLE-FAMILY RENTAL IS GOING TO BE HORIZONTAL . I LOOK AT IT AS LESS DENSE USE ON THE LAND VERSUS GOING VERTICAL. AND PACKING THE SAME UNITS ON MAYBE FIVE ACRES . WE ARE GOING TO SPREAD THE SAME THING OVER 20 ACRES. I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY BETTER. WOULD I LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES? YES, THAT WOULD BE BETTER, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THE HOMES. I ALSO THINK THIS HELPS TO FILL IN A SECTION OF HOUSING THAT IS HOT RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT IS HOT BECAUSE IT IS MORE AFFORDABLE THAN PAYING $500,000 FOR A HOUSE, OR 400, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A STARTER HOME FOR RENT. AND YOU ARE ABLE TO MOVE UP TO OWNING A HOME. OR ANOTHER HOUSING OPTION. SO I THINK IT IS A GOOD FIT.
BEING I AM HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE CALL THE
[14.1. Discussion and possible action regarding Solid Waste Services Agreement Options (Matt Wojnowski) ]
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO
REQUEST WE MOVE UP 14.1. >> ANY OBJECTIONS TO MOVING 14.1 UP? HEARING NONE. WE WILL GO TO ITEM 14.1. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SOLID WASTE AGREEMENT OPTIONS.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MATT WOJONWSKI. HERE TO PRESENT ON THE SOLID WASTE AGREEMENT OPTIONS. GO AHEAD, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OH. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC, THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WE HAD WITH AC DI IS FROM FEBRUARY 2016 UNTIL 2023, THE SEVEN YEAR AGREEMENT. IN THE AGREEMENT IT DOES ALLOW 32 YEAR EXTENSIONS, CITY COUNCIL UTILIZE THE FIRST EXTENSION ROUGHLY TWO YEARS AGO, FEBRUARY OF 2023, TO FEBRUARY OF 2025. THERE ARE TWO MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE. THE AGREEMENT HAS A FRANCHISE FEE, 10% OF THE -- WHICH IS ABOUT $75,000-$85,000 A YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT LEVELS, ONE TIME A WEEK PICKET.
-- PICKUP. THERE ARE NO LIMITS WHEN THERE IS A MOVE OUT OR MOVE IN OR AFTER A HOLIDAY. OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR NO CHARGE OR 15 ROLOFF CONTAINERS AS NEEDED TO THE CITY, THEY ALSO SUPPORT UP TO 10 CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.
THEY CONTRIBUTE ONE DOLLAR PER ACTIVE ACCOUNT TO KEEP HUTTO BEAUTIFUL. AND THEY DO THE BILLING AND THE COLLECTING FOR THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS. SO WHEN AND HOW OUR RATES CHANGED, ACDI MUST REQUEST THESE BY AUGUST 1ST FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR ENDED IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL ORDINANCE. THEY DO BASE IT ON 80% OF THE CPI FOR THE NELSON AREA AND A 20% DIESEL FUEL INDEX BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. CURRENTLY THE ACDI RATES ARE NOTED HERE ABOVE , FOR 295 GALLONS, THAT IS
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RESIDENTIAL AND SOLID WASTE, 95 GALLONS GARBAGE, 65 GALLON RECYCLE, 65 GALLON, AND BOTH CURRENT A MONTH. OTHER SERVICES AND RATES.EVERY TWO YEARS. THESE ARE THE RESULTS FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS. 2022 AND 2024, IN REGARDS TO SATISFACTION OF COLLECTION OF TRASH, RECYCLE, YARD WASTE, BULKY WASTE. YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A SLIGHT DECLINE HERE. ALL OF THE RESULTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR THE PUBLIC. SO, OPPORTUNITIES, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO A NEW AGREEMENT, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLY A THIRD CART FOR GRASS, YARD WASTE, BRUSH AGREEMENT, CITYWIDE CLEANUP EVENT, TREE DONATIONS, HOUSEHOLD WASTE DROP-OFF, OR PRESENTED THIS TO COUNCIL ROUGHLY TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE SAME SLIDES. JUST FOR YOUR AWARENESS. SO WHAT OPTIONS DOES THE CITY HAVE? AS THE CONTRACT IS UP IN FEBRUARY WE COULD DO A TWO YEAR EXTENSION VIA ORDINANCE WHICH IS WHAT COUNCIL DECIDED LAST TIME. WITH THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WE COULD MODIFY THESE EXISTING AGREEMENTS WITH ACDI, THE ESTIMATE WOULD BE 1 TO 3 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON HOW COMPLICATED THE NEGOTIATIONS OR MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE. WE COULD ALSO GO OUT FOR A NEW BID AND ASK ANY COMPANY FAR AND WIDE TO BID ON THE SERVICES, INCLUDING ACDI AGAIN. THIS WOULD TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON HOW COMP LOCATED IT IS WITHIN THE BID DOCUMENTS. AND IF NEEDED WE COULD GO MONTH-TO-MONTH WITH ACDI AS A TEMPORARY OPTION. IF WE WENT OUT FOR A NEW BID AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE NEW SERVICE IN PLACE BY FEBRUARY. SO, TWO YEARS AGO THIS WAS A WORK SESSION ITEM. THIS YEAR IT IS BEING PRESENTED AS AN ITEM AT THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ACDI HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND I AM GLAD TO HELP IN ANY OTHER WAY. AGAIN, EXCUSE ME, THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR IS WHICH ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD. ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A NEW BID, THAT WILL TAKE ADEQUATE TIME. THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW THE MOST. IF THERE IS THE EXTENSION WE WOULD BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING TO
EXTEND THAT. >> THANK YOU PAIR QUESTIONS
FROM COUNCIL? >> THE OPPORTUNITY SLIDE, WAS THAT PRESENTED TO ACDI? DID THEY HAVE ANY HESITATIONS?
>> YES, NO, THEY ARE AWARE. >> SO THOSE ARE UP ON THE TABLE
FOR POTENTIAL -- >> YES, IT IS OUR DECISION AND NOT THEIRS. BUT THEY ARE AWARE OF THE OPTIONS.
>> OKAY. >> MATT, I AM NOT A SPECIALIST BUT IT WOULD TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS? LIKE YOU PUT OUT THERE THAT WE WANT TO OPEN UP TRASH SERVICE, WHAT WOULD TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS? WHEN YOU PUT IT OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE 30 TO 45 DAYS TO RESPOND AND THEN YOU WILL LOOK AT IT AND WITHIN 90
DAYS WE MAKE A DECISION? >> YES.
>> SO IT REALLY WILL NOT TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS?
>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW DETAILED COUNCIL WANTS TO GET INTO, ARE WE DOING RECYCLING AGAIN, BULK WASTE? YARD WASTE, THE OPTIONS I MENTIONED EARLIER. IF WE TRY TO INCLUDE THAT AND MAKE IT COMPLICATED, THE BID COULD TAKE A WHILE TO CRAFT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND PRESENT OR TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY SLIDE AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS ON COUNCIL AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING TO ADD OR TO SUBTRACT FROM THAT. I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY SLIDE AND LOOK AT THE CONTRACT WITH ACDI TO SEE IF WE COULD ADD IN SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE PRESENTED ON THIS SLIDE, INTO
THE CONTRACT. >> COUNCILMEMBER? SO THE MOTION IS YOU WANT TO ADD CERTAIN ONES?
>> RIGHT, BUT I AM NOT SURE IF YOU COULD JUST SAY I WANT TO
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ADD A, B, C, AND WE ALL VOTE ON THAT. THERE COULD BE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WANT TO ADD DIFFERENT THINGS INTO IT. I AM NOT SURE HOW TO WORD IT, YOU KNOW, TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO BACK IN AND TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCILAND NEGOTIATE THAT WITH ACDI. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, IS THERE A
SECOND? >> SO IS YOUR MOTION -- LET'S GO BACK TO THE OPTIONS. THEY GO. SO YOUR MOTION IS THE
>> SO IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO DO BULLET NUMBER TWO, PROPOSE TO MODIFY THE EXISTING AND WORK OUT THE MODIFICATION OVER THE
NEXT 1 TO 3 MONTHS? >> CORRECT. WITH RECOMMENDATION
FROM COUNCIL. >> ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO MODIFY THE EXISTING AGREEMENTS. AND THEN COME BACK WITH I GUESS A COST ESTIMATE OF WHAT THOSE COST. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
>> CORRECT. >> WE COULD THEN DECIDE TO LEAVE IT AS IS OR MAKE NOTIFICATIONS, AND THAT WOULD
START THE PROCESS. >> CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE?
>> WHEN IT SAYS SMALL ENGINE REPAIR, RESALE, WHAT IS THAT
MEAN? >> I GUESS AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GET RID OF THEIR LAWNMOWER OR SOME OTHER SMALL ENGINE THING , IF IT COULD BE REPAIRED AND THEN RESOLD. RATHER THAN JUST THROWN AWAY.
>> THEY DIG IT OUT OF THE TRASH AND JUST REPAIR IT?
>> IT WOULD BE SET ON THE SIDE, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS. BUT
THEY COULD ANSWER FURTHER. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER
DISCUSSION OR MOTION? >> SO MY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW, UNLESS WE ARE JUST GOING TO RUSH THROUGH IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE , IF WE GO TO MODIFIED AGREEMENT, WE COULD STILL EXTEND THE TWO YEAR AGREEMENT TO WHAT DATE? WE STILL HAVE UNTIL JANUARY, WHAT, 16? AND THEN OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO GET -- THAT IS MY CONCERN ON THE OPEN MODIFICATION OF IT. AND THEN BESIDES ADDING THESE THINGS, ONE THING I HAVE TO LOOK AT IS ACDI HAS BEEN A PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND THE NON-PARTNER SIGNIFICANTLY, MORE THAN JUST TRASH PICKUP IS WHAT THEY DO IN THE CITY. AND THAT, I THINK, THAT IS THE REASON THAT I VOTED FOR THE EXTENSION LAST TIME. YOU KNOW? AND I THINK PERSONALLY, I WOULD RATHER STAY AT THIS ONE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS AND THEN SEE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK YOU WANT TO
GO OUT AND -- >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM. I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE GO OUT FOR A BID AT ALL. I AM SIMPLY SUGGESTING THAT , I MEAN SPECIFICALLY IF WE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM, THERE IS A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE THAT CHOP UP THEIR GRASS, CUT LIMBS, PUT IT IN THE TRASH. THAT IS NOT PREFERRED BY TRASH PICKUP. SO LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY SLIDE, IF YOU COULD GO BACK, THE THIRD R FOR GRASS YARD WASTE, THAT IS PRETTY ATTRACTIVE TO ME. AND I THINK THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF HEADACHE FOR ACDI, BUT ALSO A LOT OF, CLEAR UP A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING FOR HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE WANTING TO GET RID OF YARD WASTE AND BRASS WASTE.
THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM SPECIFICALLY WITH THE
MODIFICATION. >> SO RIGHT NOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PUT YARD WASTE AND CLIPPINGS INTO A GALLON. I THINK WHEN YOU DON'T PUT IT IN THERE, YOU PUT IT BESIDE THE TRASHCAN, YOU HAVE TO BUNDLE IT. I DO NOT SEE HOW THAT WOULD GO AWAY IN THE AGREEMENT, THEY STILL NEED THAT TO PICK IT UP.
JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN PUT YARD CLIPPINGS IN YOUR TRASHCAN
NOW. >> I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. TO ME, I THINK WE COULD, I AM ALMOST POSITIVE THE COST OF THIS IS NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT. THEY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT BASED ON THEIR DEAL. SO MY GUESS IS IN TWO WEEKS THEY WILL BRING A BALLPARK OF WHAT IT WILL COST AT EACH ITEM AND BY THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER THE COUNCIL COULD BRING IT BACK UP, LOOK AT IT, GO DO WE WANT TO AT THIS? EVERYTHING WE HAD LED TO THE BILL. THEN WE CAN
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LOOK AT IT AND DOES IT COST US ANYTHING? I ALSO HAVE, I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THEY ARE EXTREMELY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE BEEN. IT IS NOT THE EMPLOYEES INVOLVED, THE OWNERS OF THE COMPANY WHO ARE OUT THERE DOING THE WORK. BUT SAYING THAT I ALSO DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, I THINK WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK IT IS RIGHT BY THE TAXPAYER TO BRING IT UP FOR A BID. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BRING THIS UP AT BUDGET TIME, AUGUST, 2026. JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THAT, OR SOME OF IT BUT IT WILL COST THIS. AND I THINK THAT IS JUST THE PROPER WAY TO DO THINGS, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS TIME, UNFORTUNATELY NOW TO DO IT. WE ONLY HAVE TWO MONTHS AND IT IS THE HOLIDAYS. AND I FORGET THAT THERE IS THREE OR FOUR WEEKS WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A MEETING AT THE END OF THE YEAR.SO I DON'T MIND THE COST COMING BACK IN US HAVING IT ON THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER AND MAKING THE DECISION. BUT ALSO HAVING YOU GUYS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SIX OR NINE MONTHS THE NEXT TIME AROUND SO WE CAN COMPETITIVELY BID IT AND MAKE SURE WE SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE DOING.
>> I AGREE WITH SOME STATEMENTS THE MAYOR IS MAKING. I GUESS FOR BETTERING THE SERVICES I FEEL LIKE THE TIMEFRAME IS JUST TOO SHORT. I HAVE LEARNED THIS NOW, AT LEAST IN MY POSITION AS A COUNCILMEMBER, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET SEASON. ESPECIALLY RECENTLY. ALREADY STARTING TO TALK ABOUT NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER, WITH ACDI, AND DISCUSSING SOME OF THESE THINGS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THEM. IF THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO IT. WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE COST, THE CHARGE OF THE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW FOR THEM TO SERVICE THAT.
I FEEL THAT THE CONVERSATION ON THESE OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE WORKS. SO THEN ONCE FEBRUARY COMES UP, THEY CAN COMMIT TO IT OR NOT AND WE CAN RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH SOME UPDATES. SO, UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST THINK TIME HAS RUN OUT. BUT IF THEY CAN SUPPLY MAYBE SOME ON-THE-FLY OR QUICK INFORMATION ON THESE THINGS, ON OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP, I AM OKAY WITH THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A LAPSE IN THAT. AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID IN THE LAST, IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS WE NEED TO GET STARTED ASAP GOING OUT TO BID AND HAVING A FAIR PROCESS. AGAIN, TO SHOW COMPARING CONTRASTING , BUT NOT RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SERVICE, CONSISTENCY, OR THE RESIDENTS. AND ALSO GREAT SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE COMMUNITY. NOT IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY BUT FURTHER BEYOND THAT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
>> I AGREE THAT TIMING IS NOT RIGHT BUT DEFINITELY LOVE THE IDEA OF SHARPENING PENCILS. SO I AM OKAY WITH COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON'S -- YOU KNOW IF WE LOOK AT ADDING SOME THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, CITIZENS ARE WANTING, THAT IS GREAT. WHEN IT COMES TO GOING OUT FOR A NEW BID I THINK THE TIMING HAS TO BE RIGHT AND
THEN I AM ALL FOR IT. >> MATT, YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ACDI HERE. TO BE MINDFUL OF THE HESITANCY'S OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF WE CAN GET THOSE OPPORTUNITIES PRICED OUT BY THE NEXT MEETING, CAN THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ACDI COME UP AND SPEAK TO, IF THEY CAN GET THAT. IS THAT LIKE A SUITABLE AMOUNT OF TIME? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
FEASIBLE? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM TROY, THE VP OF ACDI. ONE THINK I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT THIS LIST WAS MADE WHEN WE HAD DONE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. OPTIONS THAT THEY CONSIDERED THEN. AND AS YOU KNOW COUNCIL HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD RATHER SEE THAN SOME OF THESE.
I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. ALSO, WE LOVE COMPETITION. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS CONTRACT. IT HAS TWO THREE-YEAR EXTENSIONS. AND THE PRICE OF THINGS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF, AS Y'ALL KNOW. I DO NOT COME IN HERE EVERY YEAR AND ASK FOR MY CPI INDEX. I SHARPEN MY PENCIL, I MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST FOR YOU. AND I ALSO TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT BACK INTO YOUR COMMUNITY. I WAS BORN RIGHT HERE AND I BELIEVE
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IN THE COUNTY. SO I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE MONEY I MAKE WILL BE SPENT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SO, WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS JUST A TWO YEAR EXTENSION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE. THE PRICE OF TRUCKS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE STARTED THIS CONTRACT WERE $225,000. THE TRUCK THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN NEXT YEAR FOR YOUR COMMUNITY IS $450,000. SO, THE PRICE OF GARBAGE EVERYWHERE IS GOING TO GO UP . BUT I DO NOT COME IN HERE, LIKE I SAID EVERY YEAR AND ASK FOR MY CPI. I DO MY PART FIRST AND THEN WHEN I CANNOT DO ANYMORE I COME AND ASK YOU. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME OF THE CHEAPEST RATES OF ANYWHERE. AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR PROXIMITY AND WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT. WHEN YOU START MOVING IT FURTHER OUT OF THE COUNTY OR GET IT TO ANOTHER FACILITY, THESE TRUCKS GET THREE MILES PER GALLON. THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IS HARSH WHEN WE START TRYING TO TRACK THIS STUFF A LONG WAY AWAY. I THINK YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD DEAL HERE. I HAVE MADE SOME LONG-TERM COMMITMENTS WITH THE COUNTY. WITH THE LANDFILL. I ALSO HAVE TWO FACILITIES WHERE WE TAKE OUR RECYCLING, AND IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ONE WE HAVE ANOTHER. WHAT I WOULD ASK TONIGHT AS I WANT TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, BUT WE ARE IN A TIME CRUNCH RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE COULD GET OUR TWO YEAR EXTENSION, WE COULD START HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO GO FOUR YEARS AND GIVE ME THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, BECAUSE I ALSO NEED TO PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT I AM BRINGING IN. THAT IS A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT I AM MAKING.AND I AM MAKING ON MYSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FIFTH YEAR THAT THE TRUCK WILL GET PAID FOR. BECAUSE I WILL COME IN AND GIVE YOU THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT MY SERVICE IS UNMATCHED. IN THE 40 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WE HAVE NEVER LOST A CONTRACT. OKAY? WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY SINCE YOU ARE 990 RESIDENTS. THAT IS WHERE WE STARTED. WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT BROUGHT ME IN. I PLAYED FOOTBALL RIGHT HERE ON YOUR FIELD. I PLAYED FOR THE OTHER
>> DID YOU BEAT US? >> I DID NOT WIN. MY KIDS THINK IT IS FUNNY, WHEN I TOLD THEM THAT I PLAYED FOOTBALL OVER THERE. AND THEY SAY DAD, THAT IS A BASEBALL FIELD. BUT THAT IS WHERE THE FIELDS WERE BACK THEN. SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE. THERE IS -- I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE TASTE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. THERE IS A NEW TRUCK COMING OUT THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT. IT IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER THAN ALL THE OTHER TRUCKS ON THE MARKET TODAY. WHEN THAT TRUCK HITS THE MARKET I THINK IT WILL REVOLUTIONIZE OUR INDUSTRY AND GIVE US SOME MORE -- THAT WE CAN BRING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE A FAMILY RUN COMPANY, A PRIVATELY HELD HAPPENING, BUT ALSO ONE OF THE TOP 100 IN THE NATION. WE AVERAGE, WE STAY IN THE REALM OF ABOUT 50 TO 75 IN WHAT WE DO IN THE COUNTRY. SO WE DO NOT TOOT OUR OWN HORN AND WE DO NOT HAVE A LARGE STAFF, WE BELIEVE IN A HIERARCHY AS FLAT AS KANSAS. THERE IS US, THERE IS THE MANAGERS, THEN THERE IS THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND THAT IS IT. THERE IS NO SALES TEAMS, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT. SO IF YOU WANT TO HELP ME PAY FOR THESE TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS, TONIGHT I ASK YOU FOR THE FOUR YEAR EXTENSION AND LET'S GO AHEAD. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATES TOO AND YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS EVERY TWO YEARS. THEN THAT WILL GET US TO THE VERY END AND THEN I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT WE CAN DO AGAINST EVERYONE ELSE. TONIGHT, IF FOUR YEARS IS TOO MUCH AND YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, I WILL JUST ASK FOR THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION. I DO HAVE A NEW TRUCK COMING TO YOUR AREA NEXT
YEAR. >> I THINK WHAT THEY ARE WANTING IS, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE WANTING TO EXTEND IT BUT THEY MAY WANT TO DO SOME ADD-ONS. WHICH WILL PROBABLY CAUSE A CHANGE IN PRICING. BUT WOULD YOU ALL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE STAFF, THE PRICING FOR THESE THINGS, SO THEN WE CAN COME BACK IN THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER AND VOTE TO EXTEND YOUR CONTRACT WITH POTENTIAL ADD-ONS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DO THE ADD-ONS. UNDERSTAND THOUGH THAT THE EQUIPMENT IS TOUGH TO MY R MANUFACTURER IS IN NORTH CAROLINA. THE TORNADO IN THE HURRICANE, THAT PUT HIM A
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LITTLE BEHIND. BUT IF YOU GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME, TO ROLL OUT IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO ANY OF THIS. THANK>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.
>> CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION?
>> YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
>> AND WE GO BACK TO THE OPTIONS?
>> I MIGHT ALSO SHARE THAT WE CAN ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THE
CONTRACT AT ANY TIME. >> OKAY. SO MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION AND TO BEGIN DISCUSSIONS WITH ACDI ON ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND
IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR CONTRACT. >> SECOND.
>> SO A TWO YEAR EXTENSION AND DISCUSS ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
>> I WILL ACCEPT THAT AS THE MOTION, MAYOR. AS THE FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. SO THOMPSON AND GORDON AGREE WITH THE CHANGE. IT WILL BE A TWO YEAR EXTENSION. WILL THAT BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SINCE IT CHANGE THE THING FROM THE AMENDMENT? ARE WE OKAY?
>> AS LONG AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION --
>> IS OKAY WITH IT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I AM HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. AND BRAXTON, IS THERE A WAY, YOU CAN TELL WE KIND OF GOT BEHIND. MAYBE HAD YOU NOT EVEN BROUGHT THIS UP IT WOULD NOT BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT COULD YOU JUST MAKE A CALENDAR THING, LIKE SAY MARCH OF 2026, WHERE YOU CAN COME UP? I THINK EVERYBODY IS OKAY FOR A BIT. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND GO SIDEWAYS FOR PEOPLE. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL
[11. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ]
RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEMS 11.1 THROUGH 11.29. ANYONE THAT ANYONE WISHES TOPULL? >> MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO PULL
11.9. THROUGH 11.25. PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ITEMS?
>> ALL OF THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT.
>> I DISAGREE WITH PULLING ALL OF THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT. WHAT WE DO, DO WE CALL THE ROLE?
>> OKAY, WE WILL VOTE TO NOT TO PULL OUT 11.9 THROUGH 11.25.
DOES THAT NEED A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
KOLAR. SECOND ON THE MOTION. >> THE REASON I DO WANT THESE PULLED OUT, WE ALREADY AGREED ON THE MASTER, EACH ONE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE. AND IT IS FOR CHANGE ORDERS LESS THAN 50,000. AND IT IS THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENTS, IT IS THE BLOCK FORM THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERYONE AT THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED EVERY YEAR AFTER WE APPROVE THE ROTATING SYSTEM. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT EACH ONE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING AFTER BUDGET , SINCE WE WENT THROUGH THE ROTATING SYSTEM. I THINK THIS IS NOW THE THIRD YEAR WE ARE DOING THIS. SO THAT IS A QUESTION, IF YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE AGREEMENTS OR WHATEVER, THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN ASK OF THE CITY MANAGER.
THAT THEY ARE ALL HERE. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE MAYOR, I GUESS, AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT HE LIKES TO BRING UP, WHICH IS VERY VALID. PREVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENTS LACKED THE 1295 FORM. AND SOME OF THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW. AND IT IS GREAT TO SEE ALL OF THESE NSA THAT COME THROUGH AND HAVE ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR DOING THAT. IT IS REQUIRED. IT IS NEEDED. AND HE GOT DONE.
>> SO THIS BRINGS UP A COUPLE CONCERNS. YOU ARE ASSUMING WE
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WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. THAT WE CAN INTO DEBATING WHERE WE ARE NOT ASKING. A, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PULL THOSE? THEN WE JUST ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. AND THEN WE MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT-- >> I JUST MADE MY STATEMENT !
>> WE MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT IT, MAYBE TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER.
I FOR ONE, TYPICALLY I POLICE OUT BECAUSE I DO NOT VOTE TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER CARTE BLANCHE TO SPEND UP TO 50,000.
ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WOULD AGREE THAT THIS IS JUST MY PERSONALITY, I'D LIKE TO SEE EACH AGREEMENT THAT COMES UP . FOR INSTANCE, 11.9, WE MAY GO OUT AND THEY MAY SAY IT IS ONLY 35,000. SO THEN WE SAY YOU CAN SPEND UP TO 85,000 BUT IT IS UP TO 50,000 ALL THE WAY THROUGH. FOR ME THAT LACKS TRANSPARENCY, THAT LACKS SOME DETAIL. AND THIS IS NOT COMMON. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS IN OTHER CITIES. IN THE CITY WE TEND TO DO EVERYTHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND GO. AND FOR ME IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF ACCOUNTABILITY WHERE I JUST LIKE TO SEE EACH THING. AND NOT THAT I WANT TO OVER MANAGE, BUT YOU KNOW, $50,000 APIECE, 11.9, .25, WHAT IS 16 TIMES 50,000. NOW WE ARE TALKING REAL MONEY. FOR ME IT IS TRANSPARENCY. WHAT HAPPENS IS BY NOT PULLING THESE, THEN WE MAKE A SPECTACLE OF THE WHOLE CONSENT. AND THEN I CANNOT VOTE FOR THAT. SO THEN I AM NOT VOTING FOR STUFF I WANT TO VOTE FOR. AND YOU KNOW, ANYWAY. IT IS VERY UNUSUAL TO NOT LET SOMEONE PULL AN ITEM AND ASKED THEM WHY. BUT WE TEND TO RUSH THROUGH THINGS. LIKE I SAID IN THE WORKSHOP, IF YOU RUSH TO THE BUDGET SO QUICK NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON WHAT ALL THE BUDGET ITEMS MEAN. HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THINGS AND THE FIRST THING WE DO IS OBJECT TO SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THEM AND I JUST WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE. ANYWAY.
>> SINCE I ASKED FOR IT, IT IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I GUESS SOMEWHAT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, YOU KNOW, 50,000 IS BECAUSE UNLESS I UNDERSTAND THIS WRONG, THAT IS THE THRESHOLD. IF IT WAS 35,000, ALL OF THESE WOULD BE ON HERE AND SAY 35,000 AND I WOULD STILL US TO PULL THEM. NO OFFENSE TO THE CITY MANAGER, I LIKE THE GUY. BUT I DO NOT MEET WITH HIM WEEKLY ANYMORE. THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT. THE REASON IS BECAUSE IF I HAVE A QUESTION I WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR ABOUT IT. I AM NOT HAVING SIDE CONVERSATIONS. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY AN UNDERSTANDING. I DO HAVE SOME WESTERNS AS A WHOLE, MAYBE ONE OR TWO I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION ABOUT, BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING. JUST WANT CLARIFICATION
FOR THE PUBLIC. >> BUT I WAS SAYING IT IS A FORM AGREEMENT OF A LIST WE TOOK ACTION AND APPROVED OF. SO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD QUESTION THE FORM AGREEMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FORM AGREEMENT. BUT THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM THAT SAYS I WANT . YOU ARE CREATING INEFFICIENCY AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE FORM AGREEMENT THAT WE ADOPTED. THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THE ADOPTED FORM AGREEMENT AND YOU TOOK THE ACTION TO VOTE , THE ENGINEERING SERVICE GROUPS THAT WILL USE THE AGREEMENT ON A LIST, THAT WE VOTED FOR IS A COUNCIL, THEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE AGREEMENT AND SAY WE ATTACH NAMES AND THIS IS THE STANDARD FORM AND THE LIST THAT WE APPLIED THE FORM TO, THAT IS WHY IT IS ON CONSENT. THAT IS WHY I SAID YOU EITHER ASK EVERY SCHOOL ONE, THEY ARE ALL IDENTICAL. THEY ARE FORM
AGREEMENTS. >> ALTHOUGH I RESPECT BE TRANSPARENCY AND WANTING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, I KEPT THE CONVERSATION IN PUBLIC, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM IS. THE CITY MANAGER HAS AUTHORITY TO, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED OF FOR HIM TO EXPEND UP TO $50,000, ON EACH OF THESE MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT. SO EACH OF THESE ON THE AGENDA LIST RIGHT HERE IS HIM BEING TRANSPARENT AND SAYING HEY, WITH ATRIUM AND THESE OTHER ONES WITH THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IS RESTRICTING ME TO THIS COMPANY THAT WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITY. SO THIS IS TRANSPARENCY, ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL THAT AN EXPENDITURE WILL BE MADE. WHETHER IT IS $10,000, $2500, OR $35,000.
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BECAUSE IF IT WERE A $2500 OR $35,000, HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO NECESSARILY BRING IT TO COUNCIL. BUT HE AND STAFF DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY VISION OF HOW THIS IS. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AND THIS IS ALL BEEN VETTED THROUGH WITH THE CITY ENGINEER ENDS -- AND STAFF. WE WILL CB CONTRACTORS WITH THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, WE WILL SEE THE ITEMS IN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WITH THE APPROPRIATE EXPENDITURE. WEATHERBY 2500, 15,000, 35,000.WE WILL SEE THOSE IN THE FUTURE. SO JUST TO CLARIFY OR I GUESS PUT IT OUT THERE, WHAT , HOW I SEE THIS. AND I THINK THIS IS VERY TRANSPARENT AND THE CITY MANAGER ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO EXPEND WHAT HE IS AUTHORIZED TO DO. AND WE
WILL SEE THIS IN THE FUTURE. >> SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IN AN EFFORT TO PREVENT CMV PORTERFIELD EIGHT WE HAVE PROBABLY SPENT MORE TIME TRYING TO JUSTIFY NOT ALLOWING HIM TO ASK HIS QUESTIONS AND IF A COUNCILMEMBER WANTS TO PULL OUT AN ITEM WE SHOULD LET THEM PULL IT OUT. WHETHER IT IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OR VOTE DIFFERENTLY FROM THE REST OF THE AGENDA. WHATEVER IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE TRYING TO SHUT THAT DOWN. IT IS JUST NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD BE
OPERATING AS A COUNCIL. >> OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I'M FINE WITH ANYONE PULLING ANYTHING OFF CONSENT. I HAVE ALWAYS VOTED WITH LETTING PEOPLE PULL SOMETHING OFF. SOMETIMES I DO AND WANT TO VOTE DIFFERENTLY. WE DON'T KNOW THE REASONS. I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION. YOU SAID "NOT." I GET CONFUSED. A VOTE FOR AYE IS TO NOT LET THE ITEMS PEOPLED. A VOTE WITH NAY MAKES IT TO WHERE YOU CANNOT. OKAY. I AM RIGHT. RIGHT?
>> WAS AT HOW THE MOTION WAS WORDED?
>> THAT IS WHAT I REMEMBER. YES.
>> I AM CONFUSED ENOUGH. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MOTION FAILS, 2-5. ALL RIGHT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 11.3, FIVE, SIX, EIGHT, 27, 29, AS PRESENT.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT BRINGS US TO ITEM 11.1.
[11.1. Consideration and possible action to approve Resolution No. R-2024-263 to award the Veterans Memorial Project to Millis Development & Construction, LLC - Austin in the amount of $556,853.06 and authorizing the City Manager to execute the construction contract with Millis Development & Construction, LLC - Austin (CIP Project PO6-2024) (Matt Rector) ]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON R-2024- 63 IN THE AMOUNT OF $556,853 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH MILLIS DEVELOPMENT & CONSTRUCTION, LLC AUSTIN. I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL CITY ATTORNEY CAN BRING BACK THE LEGAL MEMO ON WHAT WE CAN USE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE FOR.>> SECOND. >> SECONDED. MY REASONING FOR THIS IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE CAN , IT HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR TO ME PERSONALLY, MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY, BUT THE VETERANS OF THE AMERICAN LEGION, I KNOW THAT THEY DO NOT REPRESENT EVERY VETERAN IN HUTTO BUT THEY DO REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. THEY WOULD RATHER SEE THE ORDER OF PRIORITY, THE FACILITY, EVEN IF SHARED WITH OTHER AGENCIES, THEY WOULD RATHER SEE A FACILITY BEFORE WE BUILD A MEMORIAL. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE MONEY IS COMING FROM A COUNTY TIPPING FUND. WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND I'M SURE THEY CAN MOVE IT AROUND. AS I READ THE PACKET THERE IS $500,000 COMING FROM A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT
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WE HAVE GOT TO DO TO TRY TO USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD A FACILITY THAT CAN HOUSE IT MAY BE THE AMERICAN LEGION, CAN HOUSE THE HUTTO RESEARCH CENTER, AND BE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND SOLVE SOME THINGS. YOU MAY COME BACK AND SAY THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. BUT THE VETERANS HAVE SAID IF YOU BUILD US A FACILITY THAT WE CAN FUN RACE TO BUILD THE MEMORIAL. AND IF YOU BUILD THE MEMORIAL YOU MAY NOT HAVE A VETERANS GROUP HERE. THE LAST THING IS THAT THE VETERANS GROUP IS NOT TECHNICALLY MEETING HERE NOW BECAUSE THE SHOPS, WHATEVER IT IS CALLED, THE SHOPS AT 119 IS RIGHT IT ROUND ROCK AND THEY ARE BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY. WHICH I THINK IS SAD. THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING TOTABLE IT UNTIL THAT TIME COMES. >> QUESTION CLARIFICATION, YOU ARE NOT QUESTIONING THE LEGALITY OF US BEING ABLE TO USE THIS FOR THIS. YOU ARE JUST ASKING IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN USE IT FOR, THE MONEY?
>> YES. WE MAY COME BACK AND FIND OUT WE CAN BUILD THE FACILITY OR WE CAN PUT HALF 1 MILLION TOWARDS IT IF WE DO A CERTAIN THING TO MAKE IT. IT CAN BE DONE.
>> OKAY. IF YOU BRING THAT BACK THEN FULL DISCLOSURE, THEN I WILL PROBABLY PUSH HAVE $1 MILLION TO BUILD THAT BUILDING BEFORE BUILDING THE MEMORIAL. AND THEN IF THAT PASSES, THAT MAY COVER THE WHOLE COST AND THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT --
>> SPECIFIC. I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE FUNDS
>> OKAY. WELL, SO I HAVE A QUESTION DISTAFF. THIS CONTRACT PRICE, WHEN DO WE NEED TO ALLOCATE TO NOT LOSE THE BIDDING?
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. CITY ENGINEER. SO THIS PRICE, THIS BID IS GENERALLY GOOD FOR 45 DAYS. WHICH MEANS WE WOULD HAVE TO AWARDED AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT THE LATEST.
OR ELSE WE WOULD HAVE TO REBID THE PROJECT.
>> BASED ON THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. ODDS ARE WE WILL NOT GET THOSE ANSWERED BY NEXT MEETING. AND THEN MAKE A DECISION. AND THEN WE HAVE TO REBID THIS AND IT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MEMORIAL, THIS IS FOR EVERYONE.
WHETHER THEY CAN, WHETHER THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WAS A VETERAN OR NOT. YOU KNOW, OR THEY WERE A VETERAN THEMSELVES.
THEY CAN GO TO THE MEMORIAL, HERE AT CITY HALL IT MAKES IT ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING SPACE. TO TIE IN EVERYTHING. I GUESS THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THIS. I GUESS WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE 1ST AND YOU CANNOT DO AN AMENDMENT COUNTERED THAT. OR CAN WE, TONY? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND AWARD THE CONTRACT AND THE RESOLUTION R-2024- 263, AS
>> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT?
>> AMENDMENT TO NOW APPROVE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEMORIAL. IT HAS GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THOUGHT AND PLANNING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, WITH THE VETERANS, WITH THE CLARIFY THAT THE COST FOR THIS IS THAT THERE ARE COUNTY DOLLARS AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT DOLLARS THAT ARE NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THE MAJORITY OF THE COST IS NOT A TAX BURDEN. IT IS DEVELOPER DOLLARS AND COUNTY DOLLARS. AND SO THIS IS A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER. LITTLE TO NO COST.
>> THANK YOU MATT FOR BRINGING THAT INFORMATION. I THINK WITH THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ACT APPROPRIATE, NOT APPROPRIATELY BUT ACT IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T ADD MORE TO WHAT IS ALREADY
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BEING SPENT ON THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THATINFORMATION. >> I AM NOT SURE WHY WE COULD NOT GET AN ANSWER BY THE NEXT MEETING AND MAKE A DECISION THEN. IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS JUST A MATTER OF A MEMO.
>> I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF THIS FAILS YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO
GET THAT INFORMATION. RIGHT? >> WELL, I AM JUST STATING MY OPINION THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE MEETING TO GET IT DONE, THE NEXT MEETING, TO GET THE FINAL
DECISION. >> BUT IF YOU ARE READY TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION TONIGHT THEN WHY DO WE NEED TO WAIT A WEEK
OR TWO WEEKS? >> IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY, IT AFFECTS OUR ABILITY TO SPEND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AND IF WE HAVE THE DESIRE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE WE GET THE MONEY FOR IT. SO BEING ABLE TO
MAKE THAT DECISION. >> YOU ARE NOT BUILDING A COMMUNITY BUILDING FOR $500,000. I AM SORRY.
>> NO, BUT IT IS A MAJOR PORTION OF THE PRICE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, YOU MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS. THAT WE WILL NOT GET THE INFORMATION BACK IN THE MEETING AND THEN THE COST WILL GO UP. AND YOU CANNOT DO THIS FOR 500. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE DON'T GET ANY, THAT IS WHEN THE PUBLIC WANTS TO MEET THEY HAVE TO MEET OUTSIDE THE CITY OF HUTTO AND GO TO ANOTHER CITY. SO WE WILL HAVE A GREAT MONUMENT AND NO PLACE TO MEET IN THE CITY. WHATEVER BUT HE SAYS IS WHERE YOU GO TO MEET IN THE CITY? WE DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING BECAUSE WE KEEP -- >> WE HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. DON'T WE, SIR?
>> I HEAR YOU. THAT IS WHY WE WILL RUSH TO THIS AND THEN APPROVE THIS AND TALK ABOUT THE OTHER DEAL. IS A PATTERN OF RUSHING AND THE PUBLIC WISHES WE DIDN'T RUSH SO MUCH ON THIS AND LISTENED TO THEIR CONCERNS. BUT IT IS FINE.
>> I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT AND I DO NOT SEE US RUSHING ANYTHING ON THIS. I THINK THE PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HOPING FOR AND WANTING THIS. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN IT WITH THE DESIGN AND WITH THE LOCATION AND ALL OF THAT. I THINK PERSONALLY FOR ME IT IS TIME TO MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED TO, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO QUIT STOPPING THINGS AND TRYING TO HALT THINGS AND YOU KNOW, KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DO THINGS LATER. BECAUSE I AM ALSO IN AGREEMENT THAT EVEN IF WE FREED UP THIS ENTIRE $500,000, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BUILD A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE $500,000 SITTING IN A BANK , JUST SITTING THERE AND NOT BEING USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE. WHICH SOMEONE HAS SAID THAT THEY DON'T LIKE MONEY JUST BEING SITTING IN THE BANK AND WHY DON'T WE USE IT. AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE A MEMORIAL AND WE ONE OF A COMMUNITY CENTER ANYWAY. SO COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR AND I HAVE MET WITH SOME OF THE VETERANS IN TOWN. HE WILL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THAT ITEM LATER ON IN THE MEETING. BUT FOR ME I AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK WE HAVE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD LONG ENOUGH AND WE ARE READY TO DO IT, ON THE CUSP OF IT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE VETERANS AND GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN WORK ON THE OTHER ONE IN THE MEANTIME. THAT IS IT FOR ME.
>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
>> AMENDMENT PASSES 4-3. NOW THE ITEM UP FOR VOTE IS PRESENTED. AND NOW THAT IT IS AMENDED, IF IT PASSES THAT GOES UNDER MY NAME FOR MAKING EMOTION. RIGHT? SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY ME THAT MADE THE MOTION.
>> NAME ON IT. RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. -- MOTION.
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 11.1 AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, MAYOR PRO-TEM GORDON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. WE WILL TO SAY THIS, THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO BIDE ALL THE GROUPS OUT THERE THAT ARE WILLING TO BETTER THINGS FOR VETERANS, IF YOU BUY THE SUPPLIES, WHICH DRAMATICALLY CUTS THE COST DOWN. WE ARE NOT BUYING A HOUSE HERE WHEN YOU GET TO GO IN AND PICK
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EVERYTHING. YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE MONEY SOMEWHERE. I AGREE IT DOES NOT NEED TO SIT IN THE BANK DOING NOTHING. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ZERO IN THE BANK AND KEEP GETTING NOTHING DONE, I HAVE BEEN UP HERE SIX YEARS AND I THINK IT IS A LITTLE MISLEADING. THIS HAS NOT BEEN WORKED ON FOR YEARS. THIS ONLY CAME ABOUT WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WAS RUNNING FOR REELECTION 18 MONTHS AGO AND OFFERED 50,000 AND WE WOULD BUILD A $100,000 MEMORIAL. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IT IS UP TO ALMOST $600,000. IT HAS CHANGED OVER 18 MONTHS, BUT -- ANYWAY.[11.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-264 authorizing the City Manager to execute a task order with Arias in the amount of $15,325 for construction materials observation and testing services related to the Veterans Memorial project (CIP P06-2024) (Matt Rector) ]
>> MOTION PASSES, 4-3. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11.2. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2024- 264 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A TASK ORDER WITH ARIAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,325 FOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS OBSERVATION AND TESTING SERVICES RELATED TO THE
VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT. >> I MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION R-2024- 264, AS PRESENTED.
>> SECONDED. >> ANY DISCUSSION?
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARIAS, WITH THE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR APPROVAL.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE
[Items 11.9. - 11.25.]
>> MOTION PASSES, 5-2. THAT BRINGS US TO, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT WE CAN DO ITEMS 11.9 THROUGH 11.25 TOGETHER?
>> YES. >> WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 11.9 THROUGH 11.25.
>> SO MOVED. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE
MOTION? >> WAIT, I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE
DISCUSSING THE ITEMS? >> TO DISCUSS FIRST YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MOTION. SO NOW WE CAN DISCUSS.
>> MY APOLOGIES. >> TO APPROVE 11.9 THROUGH
11.25. >> IN THE MOVEMENT AND THE SECOND IS CORRECT? MOTION BY MAYOR PRO-TEM GORDON AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. IS THAT CORRECT? I WAS JUST VERIFYING
[11.28. Consideration and possible action on the acceptance of the September 2024 financial report (Alberta Barrett) ]
>> OKAY. THE FIRST ONE, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, EXPENDITURES WITH 0.2 MILLION LESS? ON PAGE 1152 OF THE
PACKET. PAGE I THINK FIVE. >> I THINK IT'S ON THAT ONE.
>> PAGE FIVE OF THE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
>> I'M SORRY. I DON'T SEE THE NUMBER YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
SMACK DOWN WHERE SAYS GENERAL REFERRAL -- AND WE HAVE THEM
COME IN AT 27. >> SO AGAIN. THIS IS STILL VERY
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PRELIMINARY. WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES RECORDED AT THIS POINT. IT USUALLY TAKES 4-6 WEEKS TO GET THE INVOICES IN AND PAY. THOUGH SOME OF THEM ARE IN, THAT BALANCE, THE EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO INCREASE WHEN IT'S ALL FUNNELED. SMITH ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST ASSUME IT WAS EXACTLY LIKE THIS, AUDITED IN MARCH. IS THAT ADDED MONEY? OR IS IT ALREADY FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET? DO THEY COME IN LESS THAN BUDGETED? OR IF WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, IT WENT OFF THE ASSUMPTION OF THE EXPENDITURE.>> KIND OF NEITHER. WHAT WE BASED OUR BUDGET ON WAS THE PROJECTION TO WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHAT WE PROJECTED THOSE TO BE. WHICH IS NOT THE ACTUALS AT THIS POINT, AND THAT WILL WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.
>> SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE? >> YES.
>> AND WHAT WAS IT A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? THE CITY ATTORNEY BILLS. IT'S ONLY LIKE 50 SOMETHING THOUSAND SO FAR, YEAR TO DATE. THEY ANTICIPATE BILLS COMING IN TO THAT.
>> IF I CAN CLARIFY, WE DID BUDGET 875,000 YEAR TO DATE IS 781,002 97. SO WE ARE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 89% AT THIS POINT.
AGAIN, NOT SURE THAT ALL OF SEPTEMBER HAS POSTED.
>> OKAY. SO ON PAGE 15, 76-100-00-6401.
>> OKAY. THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
>> OKAY. THANKS. WE DON'T NEED TO ACTUALLY ACT ON THIS, RIGHT
QUICK >> WELL, Y'ALL DO VOTE ON IT
AS A CONSENT ITEM. >> IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
>> OKAY. >> IT'S PART OF OUR EFFORT TO
[12.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2024-071 authorizing the City Manager to accept an easement in lieu of a warranty deed for the Alta Ed Schmidt property for parkland dedication. ]
IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY. >> ALL RIGHT. SO GOING ON TO ITEM 12.1. POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER -- AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE EASEMENT IN LIEU OF
WARRANTY DEED. >> THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF PARKLAND DEDICATION ON THE EMORY CROSSING AT THE ALTAR PROPERTY. 15 ACRES, TWO PICKLEBALL COURSES. IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND ANTICIPATED IT WILL BE READY BY Q3 2026. EXCUSE ME THERE. PARKLAND DEDICATION DOES REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE A GENERAL WARRANTY DEED. WE ARE ASKING FOR A ONE-TIME EXCEPTION. I'M SORRY. SORRY. AND THAT WOULD BE NOTED. THE DEVELOPER WILL CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN AND REPAIR ALL PARK LAND IMPROVEMENTS. IF IT MATCHES WITH THE MASTER PLAN OF ADDING PICKLEBALL COURTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. INCREASES THE PARKLAND BY 2030. 728 ACRES, THAT'S OUR GOAL. AND TO ACCEPT THIS ON THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPER TEAM ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL,
OR ACTION? >> YES, I MAKE A MOVE TO
APPROVE O-2024-071. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> I WILL SECOND. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THIS TO WORK NOT ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING, NOT ON THE HOOK FOR BUILDING IT. IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE IN
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THE PUBLIC. I GUESS THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCERN, THE DEVELOPER WILL MAINTAIN THE REPAIR. IS THIS GOING TO BECOME HLA?>> OR JUST SCREAM REALLY, REALLY LOUD.
>> GOOD QUESTION. THE EASEMENT DOCUMENT ITSELF STATES THAT IT IS THE GRAND TOUR. SO THE OWNER THAT HAS TO MAINTAIN, WHICH IS USUALLY WHAT THE CITY WOULD WANT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ENTITY IT CAN GO AFTER. BUT THEY CAN ESTABLISH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, GIVEN THAT THIS IS MULTIFAMILY FOR RENT. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE OWNER IF FOREVER CHANGED, AND THE OWNERSHIP BECAME DIFFERENT. IT WILL BE AN ASSOCIATION. AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
SPENT FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE?
>> I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER. >> BECAUSE IT IS FOR RENT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TIED INTO THIS, THAT'S THE REASON THEY
WOULD REMAIN? >> YOU WOULD WANT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN LIABLE, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATION.
LIKELY, THE ASSOCIATION WILL MANAGE IT. BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE OWNER ON THE HOOK IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG.
>> THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING
THIS CORRECTLY, >> IT'S AN EASEMENT. THAT'S
THE WHOLE ISSUE. >> OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[13.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-288 seeking an amendment to the Hotel Occupancy Tax policy for the 2024 Trail of Lights (Jeff White) ]
13.1. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2024-288 SEEKING AN AMENDMENT TO THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX POLICY FORTHE 2024 TRAIL OF LIGHTS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. JEFF WHITE. THE HOT POLICY FOR OUR TRAIL OF LIGHTS THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FY '25 BUDGET. IT WILL BE HOLIDAY THEMED LIGHTS. IT WILL TAKE PLACE OVER 18 NIGHTS IN THE COURSE OF DECEMBER. 125 THEMED LIGHT DISPLAYS. AND THERE'S $45,000 APPROVED IN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUND. WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND SECTION 5 THAT BASICALLY EXEMPTS THE CITY FROM COMPLETING THIS OCCUPATION PROCESS. AND IT WILL BRING THIS BACK IN FEBRUARY FOR THE RENEWAL REVIEW OF IT. AND THEY DO ALLOW THE HOT FUNDS TO BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
>> IS THIS GOING TO BE A WALKING TRAIL?
>> IT WILL BE A WALKING TRAIL PARTY --.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R-2024-288 AS APPOINTED AND ASKED THEM TO COME BACK TO MODIFY THE TAX POLICY.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[13.2. Consideration and possible action regarding Resolution No. R-2024-289 authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Workforce Solutions Rural Capital Area. (Irene Talioaga) ]
13-2. POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING R-2024-289 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH WORKFORCE SOLUTION RURALCAPITAL AREA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.
DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. IN FRONT OF YOU ALONG WITH THE OTHER ATTACHMENTS YOU SHOULD HAVE IS ALSO THE AGREEMENT FOR THE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. SO REALLY, THE INTENT IS TO APPLY THE WORKERS FOR THE SHORT-TERM ROLES. THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW THE CITY TO MANAGE STAFFING LEVELS WITHOUT THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT, OR ASSOCIATED WITH FULL-TIME HIRING. IT'S ALSO
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DESIGNED TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS WHILE REMAINING COMPLIANT WITH EMPLOYMENT REGULATIONS. THIS WILL ALSO HELP US TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGREEMENT, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME THIS EVENING.>> SO MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE ASKING US TO APPROVE THIS WITHOUT AN ESTIMATE. ALREADY WITH THE RISK PULL WE WOULD ADOPT WITH THIS. IT'S $1000 MORE TO OUR ANNUAL PREMIUM. NO BIG DEAL. HALF $1 MILLION, THAT'S A BIGGER DISCUSSION. YES, THEY WILL PAY HALF $1 MILLION FOR THAT. I CAN'T ADOPT THIS UNTIL WE HAVE THAT ANSWER. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY WILL HAVE THAT? OR THE BALLPARK THAT THEY PRECLUDED
YOU? >> YES SIR, WE ALREADY SENT AN EMAIL TO THEM ASKING FOR THAT, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE ANSWER, WE WILL SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE.
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND TO TABLE THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IRENE, DO WE KNOW ANY BALLPARK ON HOW
MANY TEMPS WE WOULD NEED? >> WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. WE ARE THINKING MAYBE BETWEEN 3-5 RIGHT NOW. WE CAN GET A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. HOW MANY WE NEED. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EVERY NEED WE HAVE IN THE CITY. BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIMITED SKILLS.
>> OKAY. >> YEAH. WE WILL CHECK, C, AND COORDINATE. WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH EVERYONE.
>> DO WE ALREADY KNOW THE TIME PERIOD FOR HOW LONG THEY WOULD
>> AND WOULD IT BE ROTATING? OR WHAT THAT STOP FOR THREE
MONTHS, TWO MONTHS? >> IT'S NOT A RETAINING THINK.
WE WILL HAVE AN ACTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROGRAM.
IF THEY DON'T WORK OUT, OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE TO REPORT WHY THEY DIDN'T WORK OUT. THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S REALLY SIMILAR TO MAYBE OUR SUMMER PROGRAM KIND OF THING. YES. AT LEAST I DON'T REMEMBER READING THAT PART. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT IF IT'S A CONTINUOUS THING. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE FOR US, THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD GET.
>> OKAY. I JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMING.
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THERE CERTAIN JOBS WE ARE TARGETING FOR THIS? OR IS IT ACROSS THE BOARD. OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE? OR IS IT A SPECIFIC CREW WORK, JUST
WHAT THIS WOULD ENTAIL. >> YEAH. FOR THE RECORD, AND, ANSWER I WILL GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP EFFECTIVELY WITH THE WORKFORCE COMMISSION THAT ENDS UP GOING TO THIS AGENCY. THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO WORKFORCE TRAINING FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THEIR PROGRAM, OR ON UNEMPLOYMENT. TRANSITIONING TO A DIFFERENT CAREER, WHAT HAVE YOU. I DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WITH THE JOB CORPS, WHICH IS KIND OF A UNIQUE DEAL IN AND OF ITSELF.
GENERALLY WHAT YOU END UP WITH, LABOR TYPE POSITIONS.
WATERWAYS, STREETS. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU END UP WITH.
AND USUALLY, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR ADMIN TYPE WORK. SOME OF THEM HAVE NEVER SAT IN AN OFFICE BEFORE. OTHERS HAVE SOME EXPOSURE AND EXPERIENCE. YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE. AND THEN IT'S A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN MAKE A MATCH, OR NOT. SO YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE, OR ANY INDIVIDUAL PERSON. YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU DON'T GET TO DICTATE. AND THEN THEY KNOW THEY WON'T SEND US ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T MEET THAT PROFILE. AND GENERALLY, THEIR SHORT TERM. GENERALLY, THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED TO AREAS WHERE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO CERTAIN DATA. THERE IS A NUMBER OF RESTRICTIONS WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ANYWAY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO HELP AND TO TRY AND
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LEVERAGE A PROGRAM THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME LABOR WITH NO EXPENSE TO US BEYOND HAVING TO PAY FOR WORKERS COMP. YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL LIABILITY TYPE THINGS.>> THANK YOU. >> WE DON'T PAY SALARY, WE
JUST PAY BENEFITS. >> WE DON'T PAY BENEFITS
EITHER. >> WORKERS COMP, IF THEY GET HURT WHILE THEY ARE HERE, IT'S INSURANCE.
>> BUT THAT'S NOT A BENEFIT. SO WHAT'S THAT?
>> IT'S LIKE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR WORKERS COMP. YOU'VE GOT SALARY, BENEFITS.
>> THE NEXT TIER WOULD BE LEGALLY REQUIRED ITEMS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY, FICA, WORKERS COMP. THE ONLY THING THAT ENDS UP ON OUR SIDE IS THE WORKERS COMP AND THE LIABILITY IN CASE
THEY GET HURT ON THE JOB. >> THAT'S WHY A LIMIT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
>> AND WE WILL GET THAT. >> THAT'S TRUE.
>> IT'S A WHOLE THING ABOUT, WELL, SOME WOULD BE MICROMANAGING. AND YOU COULD TO ANOTHER ITEM. HERE I AM GETTING CONFUSED. I NEED TO KNOW WHO IS $1500, OR $1142. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE CONSISTENT FOR YOU GUYS ON WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. SOMETIMES YOU GET UP TO 50 GRAND TO SPEND. THEN IT WOULD BE FRUSTRATING FOR ME AS AN EMPLOYEE. YOU AND I TALK ALL THE TIME. THAT'S JUST THE WAY MY MIND IS. I DON'T THINK I FRUSTRATE YOU AS MUCH AS I USED TO BE
>> NOT YET. >> I WILL ADD TO THE POOL OF KNOWLEDGE, WORKERS COMP IS USUALLY ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF AN EMPLOYEE. SO IF IT'S THIS CLASSIFICATION, THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RISK THAT THEY WILL BE INJURED ON THE JOB. IS JUST DEFINED. IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.
>> IS BASED ON REVENUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT MUCH. NOT EXPECTING YOU GUYS TO COME BACK AND BREAK THE BANK ON THIS ONE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO SEE HOW CLOSE I CAN GET? DO YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME? ALL RIGHT. 13 WEEKS WOULD BE THREE MONTHS ROUGHLY.
I BET IT'S GOING TO BE NO MORE THAN EIGHT DOLLARS A MONTH.
>> IT'S AN UNDERSTANDABLE QUESTION. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION AS COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT, YOU KNOW? BRINGING THESE PEOPLE ON, MY ABILITY, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. YEAH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I MESSED UP. WAS THERE A
MOTION ON THIS? >> YES SIR. WE WILL SHARE THAT.
>> AND WHO SECONDED THAT? >> I DID.
>> I DID SAY IT BEFORE WE STARTED TALKING.
>> TABLE UNTIL THEY HAVE THE RATES.
>> YEAH. >> AND THAT'S CONSISTENT. THIS
ONE HAS NO NUMBER. >> IF YOU SAID NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT
>> ANYTHING ELSE. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[13.3. Consideration and possible action regarding Resolution No. R-2024-290 adopting the Covered Applications and Prohibited Technology Policy. (David Amsler) ]
13-3, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION R-2024-290 . ADOPTING THE COVERED APPLICATIONS AND PROHIBITED TECHNOLOGY POLICY.[02:20:01]
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DAVID AMSLER FOR THE RECORD. TONIGHT, A BRING YOU A POLICY IN RESPONSE TO -- RICHWOOD CRIERS LOCAL GOVERNMENT -- WHICH REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND AGENCIES TO BAN CERTAIN SOFTWARES AND HARDWARE'S FROM SPECIFIC COMPANIES TO BE USED BY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES. THE POLICY ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS PUTTING US IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> QUESTIONS HER ACTIONS FROM COUNSEL?
>> A MOTION TO IMPROVE RESOLUTION R-2024-290 .
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT MAYBE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, IT'S REFERRING TO TIKTOK. AND IT CAN'T BE A PART OF ANY UNITED DATES, YOU KNOW, STATE OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE ARE JUST FOLLOWING THAT. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, JUST FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. SO IS IT CORRECT THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR CITY DEVICES? I GUESS THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. CITY
DEVICES -- >> CORRECT. SENATE BILL 1893 IS WHAT APPLIES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL REGULATION THAT IS THE GOVERNOR'S DIRECTIVE. BUT THAT ONLY APPLIES TO STATE AGENCIES. THE WAY THIS POLICY READS, THE GOVERNMENT DEVICES CANNOT HAVE SPECIFIC SOFTWARE BY BREAK-DANCE, WHICH IS THE PARENT COMPANY OF TIKTOK.
>> AND THEN FOR MY SECOND QUESTION, SO YOU HAVE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE ON YOU HERE IN CITY HALL. YOU HAVE TIKTOK IN YOUR PHONE. BUT YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK. HOW
DOES THAT PLAY OUT? >> SO FOR STATE AGENCIES, IT IS MUCH MORE COMPLEX. THEY ARE POLICING THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. CURRENTLY, THE WAY THAT THE MODEL POLICY, WHICH WAS SENT OUT BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES, IT DOES NOT HAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AIMING TO OBLIGE BY THAT. INDIVIDUALS COULD HAVE TIKTOK, BUT WE ARE TAKING EXTRA MEASURES SUCH AS
OUR NETWORK BLOCKS TIKTOK. >> YEAH. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWLEDGE, SO THIS POLICY WOODEN BAR A, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENT FROM HAVING GET ON THEIR PERSONAL PHONE. IT WOULD BE BLOCKED, RIGHT? SO, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS POLICY, AND FOR BRINGING IT TO COUNSEL TO IMPLEMENT BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 20TH, WHICH IS AMAZING. USUALLY WE ARE KIND OF BEHIND THE CURVE ON THE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT POLICY. I DO AGREE THAT JUST IN GENERAL, TIKTOK, THE APP IS A NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN. AND ALTHOUGH GOVERNMENT IN THE U.S., YOU KNOW, IT'S TRANSPARENT. THERE IS A PUSH TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT WITH INFORMATION.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE NATIONS AND OTHER
ENTITIES, AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND ALSO CITY EMPLOYEES. THEY CAN GET ON THE WEB BROWSER AND USING THEIR LOGIN. THEY CAN HAVE TIKTOK ON THAT COMPUTER. DOES THAT ALSO VIOLATE POLICY QUICK IS THAT AN ISSUE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD GO BACK TO IF YOU ARE COUNCILMEMBER, THEY MAY HAVE ACCESS TO THE EMAIL.
>> IF YOU ARE LOGGING INTO A GOVERNMENT OWNED DEVICE, THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE POLICY.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE MAYOR OFF
TIKTOK. >> NO. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC. SMITH AGES HERE BAN TIKTOK.
>> TRYING TO OVER TALK THE GUY THAT WAS TALKING. AM I STILL ABLE TO BE ON TIKTOK ON MY OWN PERSONAL DEVICE?
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>> FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T KNOW THE WI-FI IS. YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY TRACK ME. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT BEING
TRACKED BY THE GOVERNMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S SO MUCH
BETTER. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[13.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-291 authorizing the City Manager to execute the Wastewater Infrastructure Oversizing Reimbursement Agreement with Ed Schmidt Apartments Phase 1, LP, facilitating the reimbursement of certain allowable costs necessary to complete certain wastewater infrastructure. (Sara Cervantes) ]
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2024-291 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE OVERSIZING REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH ED SCHMIDT APARTMENTS PHASE ONE, LP, FACILITATING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF CERTAIN ALLOWABLE CAUSE NECESSARY TO COMPLETE CERTAIN WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, SARA CERVANTES FOR THE RECORD. THIS DIRECTLY CORRELATES WITH ITEM 12.1. THE PARKLAND THAT Y'ALL JUST APPROVED. FACILITATING THE ABILITY AND THE COST FOR SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW THAT MATH IS A LITTLE SMALL THERE. I BELIEVE IT IS LABELED AS NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE TO THE RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE SECOND LARGER LINE. THAT SUBJECT TO BEING BUILT BY OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA AS THEY COME ONLINE. THAT WILL FACILITATE THE SMALLER PORTION OF THAT AND THE GOOD TALK OF THAT PROPERTY.
>> ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS AND COUNSEL?
>> SO DO WE NEED TONIGHT, NEED TO ALSO DICTATE WHERE THE
$60,000 WOULD COME FROM? >> FISCAL NOTE.
>> IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. SO IF COUNSEL DESIRES THIS, IT CAN BE TAKEN FROM THE 3.3 MILLION BALANCE?
>> RIGHT. >> IT WOULD CLEAR IT UP IF HE DID. THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT LATER. CORRECT, ALBERTO? WANTING TO SCREAM QUESTIONS FROM THE BACK OF THE ROOM, MAYOR.
>> IN THIS CASE, CUTS IT IN HALF.
>> THE AGREEMENT ALREADY ALLOWS FOR A CHOICE BY THE CITY FOR THE WAY TO REIMBURSE, WHICH IS EITHER THROUGH CASH, OR THROUGH AN OFFSET OF WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES, OR I BELIEVE COLLECTION OF IMPACT FEES FOR THE THIRD PARTY.
>> THEY WOULD NEED TO AMEND OUR BUDGET TO ALLOW US TO MAKE THE
PAYMENT. >> I'M SORRY. YUM I DO HAVE THE OPTION. MATT WAS STARTED TALKING 60,000. ALL RIGHT. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS? >> SO, CLARIFYING QUESTION. IF WE DID APPROVE IT, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT? BECAUSE OF OUR OTHER POLICY? CORRECT?
>> CAN YOU PHRASE THAT AGAIN, I'M SORRY?
>> WE UPDATED OUR POLICY SO THAT WHEN WE OVERSIZED SOMETHING, AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.
>> YEAH, CAPITAL RECOVERY. >> RIGHT. EVEN IF WE DO THE
60,000. >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-2024-291 AND FOR STAFF TO TAKE THE -- OF THE 3.3 MILLION.
>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. AND HAVE A DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[14.2. Discussion and possible action on directing staff to research available property in Hutto and the Hutto ETJ to be used as a community center space for the City of Hutto. (Peter Gordon, Amberley Kolar) ]
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 14.2. DISCUSSION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO RESEARCH THE PROPERTY IN HUTTO AND THE
HUTTO ETJ. >> I WILL START. I GUESS KIND
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OF REITERATING WHAT I KIND OF SPOKE TO EARLIER. I AM STARTING TO FIND THAT I AM DOING A LOT MORE WORK IN THE INTERIM, LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET CYCLE IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. I FELT LIKE THE COUNCIL, THE CITY, WE ARE STARTING TO BE PROACTIVE WITH ITEMS, BUDGETING, FORESIGHT INTO THE FUTURE. WHETHER IT IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, OR 10 YEAR. THE SPAZ BUDGET, WE MOVED OUT OUR WRECK STUDY TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED. AND JUST WITH THE CONVERSATION ON THE DAIS, REALISTICALLY, A COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE THAT WOULD BE NEW WOULD LIKELY BE IN THE FIVE TO 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME. THE COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT SENIORS ARE WANTING. ALSO BUSINESSES. GROUPS THAT WANT TO COME TO HUTTO. JUST IN DISCUSSING WITH MEETING FOLKS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE LIKE AN INTERIM SOLUTION TO THIS TO OUR GROWING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE NEED A MEETING SPACE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BEGIN THE DISCUSSION ON SEEKING OUT PROPERTY THAT ALREADY EXISTS. WHETHER WE WANT TO LEASE, OR PURCHASE. WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE MARKET TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE TO ADD THIS TO THE CITY OF HUTTO . POTENTIALLY THE INVENTORY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO USE THE ORGANIZATIONS, SOMETHING LIKE THE AMERICAN LEGION, THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER AND POSSIBLY EXPANDING. BECAUSE THEY SERVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEKEND, AND YEAR AFTER YEAR.INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN FIVE YEARS, OR 10 YEARS, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INTERIM OPTION. AND I FEEL LIKE JUST GETTING STAFF TO LOOK AT AVAILABLE PROPERTY THAT'S OUT THERE, LIKE I SAID, THE CITY COULD LEASE, OR PURCHASE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ASSET. I GUESS MAYOR PRO TEM CAN SPEAK. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE TEAM LEGION, AND ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN HUTTO. THAT IS A SOMETHING TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION, AND TO HELP MOVE
THIS FORWARD. >> YEAH. GREAT SUMMARY. I REACHED OUT TO THE AMERICAN LEGION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO WE MET LAST WEEK, I GUESS. I GUESS IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO.
JUST TALKING WITH THEM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEY ARE AT, WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE, THEIR CONCERN. ONE THING THAT WAS NEW INFORMATION TO ME WHICH I HAD NEVER KNOWN, UNDERSTOOD, OR REALIZED, THE ORIGINAL LOCATION WHERE THEY WERE WAS RENT-FREE. AND THEN THE NEW LOCATION THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE TO IS NOT RENT-FREE. THEY ARE PAYING UPWARDS OF 1900 A MONTH OR SOMETHING FOR RENT. SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR THEM. THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH THAT. THEY WERE JUST AGAIN ASKING US IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE INTERIM. WHAT I PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH PEOPLE. WE BUILD A REC CENTER SOMEWHERE ELSE IN TOWN THAT'S LARGER, BIGGER, AND THEN WE USE THE EXISTING YMCA FACILITY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY. BUT YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY I THINK FIVE YEARS OUT. NOW THAT WE PUSHED OUT THE STUDY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID WE NEED AN INTERIM SOLUTION. WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT CAN BE LOOKED AT? TOTALLY OPEN TO WHAT OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE. IF THERE IS A FACILITY THAT CAN BE LEASED, RENTED, PURCHASED, WHATEVER. WE ALSO TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT FUNDRAISING. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANT TO DO, DO MORE FUNDRAISING. THEY SAID THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER IF THEY HAD A FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR FUNDRAISING. THEY GAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW
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THAT COULD BE DONE. SO THEY WERE OPEN TO THE IDEA. IF THEY HAD A FACILITY, A SIMILAR AGREEMENT LIKE WE HAD WITH THE YMCA. PEOPLE WOULD USE OUR FACILITIES. THEY WOULD PAY SOME KIND OF RENT, PAYING THE BILLS FOR THE UPKEEP, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THINKING ABOUT THAT.THEY WOULD BE INVESTED IN IT, THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN IT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MOVING FOR THE OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE AREA.
THAT'S KIND OF THE GENESIS OF WHERE IT CAME FROM. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE DONE?
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A GUY THAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING US TO GO TO DIRECT STAFF TO START LOOKING FOR.
>> THERE'S JUST NO TIME TO BUILD AND TO FUND IT. JUST EXISTING FACILITIES. YEAH. EITHER ONE. WHATEVER IS ON THE
MARKET. >> LET'S SAY WE VOTE TO DO
THAT. >> YEAH. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS US BEGINNING THE CONVERSATION. WHETHER COUNSEL WANTS TO DO IT, OR NOT. OBVIOUSLY, IF COUNSEL DOES APPROVE THIS, THEN THIS WOULD GIVE STAFF SOME TIME TO GO OUT, DO THEIR RESEARCH, HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND THEN LEADING INTO IT. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT FURTHER. WHAT DOES THAT INVESTMENT LOOK LIKE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO INVEST IN QUICK IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T? IT ONLY MAKES IT THAT FAR AMONGST COUNCILMEMBERS. I MEAN, OR HOPEFULLY, MY HOPE IS THAT IT CONTINUES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SEND STAFF ON A WILD GOOSE CHASE AND SAY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR FACILITY THESE PEOPLE CAN USE. THEN THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY IN A MONTH AND A HALF, WE FOUND ONE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR IT. WE DIDN'T BUDGET
ANYTHING FORWARD. >> RIGHT. I AM OPEN TO ANYTHING. BUT IF YOU ASKED THEM TO FIND FACILITIES TODAY AND WE CAN FUND IT UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST OF NEXT YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD HAVE THEM DO THAT TODAY. I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE MONEY FIRST TO THEN SAY, OKAY, NOW I HAVE SOME MONEY. PLEASE GO FIND US A FACILITY, WHATEVER. OTHERWISE, YOU WILL WORK. AND THEN BIAS OVER FIRST, IT'S LIKELY TO BE GONE. I THINK THIS GOES INTO WHY -- NOT THAT IT WOULD BE SITTING THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING. I'M OKAY TO GET YOU GUYS GOING, BUT PLEASE DON'T GET FRUSTRATED WHEN YOU COME BACK AND THERE'S A SMOKING HOT DEAL FOR $900,000 AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY UNTIL OCTOBER.
HOPEFULLY IT STAYS THERE. >> MY QUESTION IS, WE DID SOME UPDATES. WE ARE DOING SOME UPDATES, RIGHT? WHAT TIMEFRAME IS THAT GOING TO BE COMPLETED?
>> JAMES, FOR THE RECORD. ALL I'M WAITING FOR IS A SOLUTION FOR THE A.D.A. SPARKING -- PARKING PLACES.
>> IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. MR. TALK WITH ALL OF THE PLACES TO STORE SOMETHING. IT'S A STORAGE THING INSIDE OF IT. THEY CAN PULL IT OFF AND BE SECURED INSIDE THE BUILDING. THAT IS GRANITE OF THE POSITIONING.
>> OH YEAH. >> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE
>> YOU LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH. THAT BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE
WALLS. RIGHT? >> YEAH. WE WILL CALL IT A
METAL MESH ON THE EAST WALL. >> GOT BELOW 90 LIKE TWO DAYS
AGO. >> IF YOU ASKED ME, IT STILL
90. >> WE ARE TALKING 90 DEGREES AND UP IN A BUILDING THAT IF IT RAINS A CERTAIN WAY --
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S CONDUCIVE TO STORING ANYTHING.
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ESPECIALLY IF YOU WENT TO AMERICAN LEGION. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT IN THEIR 20S. SO YOU ARE ASKING THE SENIORS TO THEN BE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT IS 100 OUTSIDE. THAT WOULD BEMY OPINION ON IT. >> I'M JUST SAYING, WE TALK ABOUT THE COST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADD ONE OF THOSE SMALL COOLER THINGS THAT CAN GET INSIDE, IT CAN COOL THAT BUILDING DOWN. YOU CAN DO THAT FOR PROBABLY A LOT LESS THAN YOU CAN GO BUY SOMETHING. I'M JUST SAYING, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD JUST DO A SMALL UPGRADE? AND THEN IT WAS GOOD
THAT AT LEAST? >> WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. IT'S COURSE WALLS. IS NOT EVEN SOLID WALLS.
THE WIND BLOWS RIGHT THROUGH IT.
>> IT'S ENCLOSED. >> YEAH. IT'S A PAVILION.
IT'S NOT A BUILDING. THERE ARE NO RESTROOMS IN THERE.
>> YEAH. WITH SOME OF THE FUNDRAISING THINGS, LIKE A PANCAKE BREAKFAST, OR BARBECUE AND STUFF. JUST BECAUSE THERE IS NO WATER, THOSE KIND OF FACILITIES. THAT WOULD MEAN FOR, LIKE, SAFE FOOD HANDLING. THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT'S OFF
THE TABLE. >> NOT TO BE FUNNY, BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE UNTIL WE ADJOURNED THE MEETING. I'M JUST SAYING.
>> I'M NOT CHANGING MY VOTE ON THE OTHER.
>> WE JUST NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH. PROPERTY SITS ON THE MARKET LONGER THAN IT HAS BEEN. YOU KNOW, USUALLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, TOO. IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIAL. NOTHING HUGE. I GUESS I NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. I GUESS WHAT STAFF WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT FOR NONPROFITS TO DO FUNDRAISING EVENTS. YOU KNOW, THEY MENTIONED LIKE BINGO IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO. WHAT WAS ANOTHER THING? IT JUST KIND OF BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER. ALSO FOR THE SENIORS, TOO.
>> I MEAN, WE CAN ALMOST LITERALLY TALK RIGHT NOW AND FIGURE THIS OUT. THERE ARE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF VACANT BUILDINGS OUT THERE. EACH ONE HAS A DENTIST OFFICE. BUT IF YOU GO AROUND, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE -- THEY ARE JUST BUILDING IT JUST TO BUILD IT. IT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE HIT ME UP FOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO HUTTO, BUT I NEED SOME SPACE .
IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, YOU JUST LOOK AROUND. THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANYTHING.
>> I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OUT OF BASICALLY DOUBLE WIDE. PUTTING IT ON ONE OF THE PARKLANDS NOT DEVELOP AT ALL. I'M JUST SAYING. IT MIGHT EVEN BE LESS. AND I BET WE CAN FIND THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> VINCENT HE CAN GET SOMETHING ELSE BUILT AND DONE. AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE DURANGO AREA. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAIN BUILDING. WE DIDN'T TAKE OVER THAT BUILDING.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO LOOK FOR BUILDING SPACES. WE DON'T KNOW WE DON'T KNOW. WE CAN SIT HERE ALL NIGHT AND TALK ABOUT IT. ONCE THEY BRING BACK THE RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THAT WOULD PROVIDE MORE CLARITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.
>> HOLD ON, HE MADE A MOTION. >> I KNOW, I'M JUST ASKING FOR
CLARIFICATION. >> WHATEVER THEY WOULD COME BACK WITH. IF THEY CAME BACK WITH THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ALL OPTIONS. I'M NOT LIMITED TO ANYTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? >> I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT TO EXCLUDE LOOKING AT PROPERTY TWO. YES, IT TAKES LONGER TO BUILD THE BUILDING, FOR SURE. WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY NEW PROPERTY AROUND HERE. IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY
GOOD. IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. >> WELL, IF THE CITY WAS APPROVED, IT WILL PROBABLY GO FASTER, HYPOTHETICALLY. YOU COULD BUILD A BUILDING IN SIX MONTHS, JUST A REGULAR
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BUILDING, ASSUMING YOU HAD THE PLANS. IT MIGHT TAKE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS. I KNOW THAT TIMEWISE. AGAIN, UNTIL WE GET MONEY, YOU NEED TO COME BACK, TELL SOME OPTIONS. ALL RIGHT.PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> CAN I INTERRUPT? SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, I AM LOOKING FOR AN UNKNOWN SIZE OF PROPERTY, UNKNOWN SIZE OF BUILDING FOR AN UNKNOWN BUDGET?
>> NO, FOR NO BUDGET. >> SMALL, MEDIUM, OR LARGE
OPTIONS. >> SO AS SOON AS Y'ALL TAKE THE BOAT, I WILL GO TO A REALTOR, SEARCH FOR EVERYTHING FOR SALE, AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE THAT TO COUNSEL.
>> AND THAT'S WHY SAID, PLEASE DON'T GET FRUSTRATED.
>> YEAH. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WORK, GREAT. IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT YOU FEEL IS BETTER EQUIPPED.
>> Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING QUICK REALTOR.COM, JUST
PULL UP EVERYTHING FOR SALE. >> YEAH. WE CAN HAVE A CHEAPER
OPTION. >> YEAH, LOOKING AT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, GIVE US OPTIONS ON A SMALL, MEDIUM, OR LARGE SIZE BUSINESS. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T EXPECT US TO SIT HERE AND FILTER DOWN EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW TIDBIT THAT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT. I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY FRUSTRATE YOU. I WOULD TRUST THAT SHE WOULD UTILIZE WHAT YOU KNOW IS NEEDED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT IT'S COMING FROM, AND KIND OF FILTER THAT DOWN FROM OF SMALLER, MEDIUM-SIZE PROPERTY.
>> HOW BIG IS THIS? >> I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THAT IT CAN BE JUST BEFORE YOU GET UP TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SMITH IS NOT WHAT Y'ALL REALLY WANT.
>> HOW MUCH SPACE? >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL? IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT SIZE
SPACE THEY NEED? >> NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. THE REASON I WAS ASKING FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MI ACCOMMODATING AMERICAN LEGION, PLUS THE RESOURCE CENTER? MI ACCOMMODATING THE LEGION CENTER, PLUS WHATEVER ELSE?
>> MY INTENT WAS ONLY AMERICAN LEGION.
>> OKAY. THERE IS COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE. SO TO ME, THAT'S NOT JUST AMERICAN LEGION. IF IS JUST AMERICAN LEGION --
>> UNLESS ANYONE DISAGREES. FOR ME, THIS IS THE MEASURE FOR THEM. THEY ARE THE ONES HURTING THE MOST. IT WAS UNEXPECTED.
>> MY CONVERSATIONS THERE, THEY DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE A BUILDING FOR THAT. THEY WANT IT TO BE A COMMUNITY BUILDING, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A 100-YEAR-OLD BUILDING THAT'S FALLING APART. 20 DIFFERENT GROUPS USING THE BUILDING.
>> THEY BRINGS ME BACK TO MY PROBLEM OF TRYING TO DO RESEARCH. IN MY CAP AND GET A 5000? MI N GET AT 15,000?
>> I THINK YOU HAVE 10 OPTIONS.
>> THERE MIGHT JUST BE TWO. >> I WILL START WITH THE
AMERICAN LEGION. >> THAT'S USUALLY THE MINIMUM
SIZE. >> YEAH. AMERICAN LEGION IS THE MINIMUM. IF WE GO MAX, THAT WE CONCLUDE THE RESOURCE CENTER
AND OTHERS. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORTON?
>> RIGHT. BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE HAVE LEGAL QUESTIONS FOR A, B, C, D. WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION FOR MOST OF THESE.
>> FOR A, WE DO HAVE JOE FREELAND, EXCUSE ME. THEY WILL BRIEF YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS?
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>> C, WE BRIEF YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST TIME. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON 16.2 TO LAYOUT THE AGREEMENT.
>> LEGAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL PULL THAT ONE. D?
>> D IS JUST A LICENSED AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU A BRIEFING AND THE COPY OF THE LICENSED AGREEMENT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? >> AND THAT IS IN LIEU OF THE PROPOSAL OF THE COST SHARE AGREEMENT TO SPEND $3 MILLION TO BUILD THE ROAD. THIS IS DON'T SPEND MILLION DOLLARS,
[15. EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
GET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND ALLOW FOR THEM TO HAVE A -->> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY RELATED TO A ENCROACHMENT INTO CITIES EXCLUSIVE RETAIL SEWER SERVICE AREA BY RETAIL SEWER UTILITY, PRESERVE HUTTO LLC , POSSIBLE ACTION SEEKING AN ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS UNDER TEXAS WATER CODE SECTION 13.252 PROHIBITING SUCH ENCROACHMENT. B, CLAIM FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR WASTEWATER LINE REPAIR REQUIRED BY TCEQ SUBMITTED BY TOWNE PLACE SUITES.
>> MY QUESTION WAS ON B. >> THE TIME IS 9:52. UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS. WHAT ARE WE DOING?
>> IF WE ARE ON TEAMS, IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO
[16. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
>> IT'S 10:21. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTIONS TAKEN. NEXT UP, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION C. POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXTRICATE -- EXECUTE GOVERNING THE COMPLETION OF CERTAIN WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PROVISION OF THE DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS PROSTATE.
>> MAYOR COUNCIL, DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE RECORD.
THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS LISTED IN THE BLUE OUTLINE THERE, IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY 79 AND THE 130 INTERSECTION. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO WAY TO FACILITATE THIS OUT OF THAT DIRECTION. WHAT IT DOES, IT FACILITATES THE SCEPTER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THAT SERVICE TO COME FROM SOUTH OF 79 AND EAST OF 130. UNDER 130 UP TOWARD THIS PROPERTY, AND CONTINUING NORTH UNDERNEATH 79. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A MUD FORMATION REQUIREMENT IN THE AGREEMENT. THIS WILL BE RETAIL WASTEWATER SERVICES. THIS TRIGGERS CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTAINING THE MAINTENANCE ITSELF. YOU SHOULD HAVE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ERROR IN YOUR POCKET -- PACKET ONLINE. OH, THIS VIBRATES.
INTERESTING. THE ORANGE LINE HERE, IT'S THAT INTERCEPTOR.
LIKE I SAID, IT FACILITATES WASTEWATER SERVICE TO AN AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY COMPLETELY UNREACHABLE. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANNEX FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT DEVELOP. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> THIS ONE HAS A PRETTY LONG HISTORY. THIS STARTED OUT AS AN AGREEMENT, AND THEN TRYING TO FIND A WAY, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. WE LOOK FOR WHOLESALE WASTEWATER. THE EASIEST WAY TO GET THAT DONE IS TO HAVE THE MUD BE CREATED SO WE HAVE THAT TO CONTACT WITH. IT IS AN UNDERLYING CONDITION THAT HAS TO FORM IN ORDER FOR THIS AGREEMENT TO KICK IN AND BE ACTIVE. AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THE RETAIL SERVICE TO THE MUD. THE CITY STAFF WILL BE IN CHARGE OF OPERATION MAINTENANCE AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE MUD.
>> I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A BENEFIT.
OTHERWISE, THERE IS NO OTHER SEWER ALTERNATIVES. AND THE
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FUNDING OF THE INTERCEPTOR IS HUGE FOR THE CITY.>> THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO FUND THIS? LITERALLY THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IS FOR THEM TO FORM MUD.
>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO, MAYOR. IF WE DID THIS UP TO PROPERTY, THEN IT WOULD HAVE THE CONTRIBUTION. THAT WOULD BE THE EXTENT OF IT. SO IT WOULD ME CAPITAL COST RECOVERY.
>> HOW MUCH ARE YOU SAVING BY THERE BEING MUD THERE?
>> THE DESIGN OF THE INTERCEPTOR ITSELF, THEY HAVE
TAKEN IT ON COMPLETELY. >> THAT WAY YOU CAN GET SPECIFICS. THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
>> MY ISSUE, THEY ARE GONE, AND NO OFFENSE TO YOU GUYS. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT LIVING IN THE MUD IS. NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE CITY. FOR YEARS, WE'VE HAD STAR RANCH PEOPLE COME OVER HERE. EVERY ISSUE THEY HAVE OVER HERE, THEY WANTED TO BE OUR ISSUE. PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE OUR ISSUE. IT'S LIKE, YOU GUYS ARE DIFFERENT GOVERNING ENTITIES. IT SEEMS EVERY TIME, IT'S CREATING A HEADACHE FOR US. AND IT'S MANAGED BY A MUD BOARD. SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AREN'T ADDRESSED. THEY COME TO US WANTING US TO GET INVOLVED. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE GOTTEN INVOLVED ON SIENA BUSINESS? SO IF THERE'S A WAY, WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT MAYBE. BUT I'VE GOT BIG TIME RESERVATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD NEED THE MUD.
>> SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO BUILD
IT? >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. CAN YOU REITERATE? MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU. SO IT WILL BE FORMED AS A MUD, BUT THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE?
>> YES. WE WILL MAINTAIN ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE
>> JUST WASTEWATER. OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD WANT THERE TO BE SOMETHING IN THE FORMATION AGREEMENT THAT SAYS UPON COMPLETION OF THE MUD, THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO GET. AND WE WANT THAT DONE PRIOR. TRYING TO GET INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS TO DO ALL OF THAT.
>> RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD DO A LIMITED ANNOTATION.
>> IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE MUD DISTRICT. BUT THEN
THEY CAN COME INTO THE CITY. >> THEY WILL NEVER PAY IT OFF.
BUT I DO BELIEVE OUR MUD POLICY, YOU CAN HAVE ONE AFTER 20 YEARS. AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE THE OPTION.
>> CORRECT. AT ANY TIME WE WANT TO JUST TAKE OVER THEIR DEBT.
TYPICALLY, THE STANDARD IS 90% IS PAID FOR.
>> DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE LOOK, IN THESE INSTANCES -- IT'S A LOT EASIER. YOU GET YOUR SAME BENEFITS. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KICK OFF A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE. IT'S EXACTLY LIKE A MUD, ONLY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
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OF THE REQUIREMENTS . >> SO WITH THIS, THIS WOULD BE
>> YES, AND THERE ARE 2.2 MILLION CURRENTLY ESTIMATED.
TOWARD THE REST OF THE LINE. SO IF YOU REFER TO THAT AGENDA ITEM REPORT WE HAD SENT AROUND, THERE IS A BUDGET BREAKDOWN FOR WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GET AS A CITY TO BUDGET THIS ALL THE WAY OUT.
IT SAYS SERIES 2026 WOULD BE GOING EVEN FURTHER TO GET THIS ON OUR OWN. I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTRIBUTION NOW, HOW MUCH FURTHER THAT WOULD PUT THIS OUT
TIMEWISE? >> RIGHT NOW, IT'S 2028.
>> SO IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IT CAN GO OUT EVEN FURTHER?
>> YES. THAT TRIGGERS MORE IMPLICATIONS.
>> IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IT CAN BE BOUGHT BECAUSE OF A 2.2 MAY
IN DOLLAR -- >> AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DESIGN HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER. I DOUBT THEY WOULD JUST HAND THAT DESIGN OVER TO US. WE HAVE A SIMILAR ARGUMENT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR OTHER INTERCEPTORS FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. WE HAVE ACCESS STARTING BACK AT ZERO, HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND GOING BACK TO THE
START. >> SO THIS DESIGN HAS ALREADY
>> PRIOR DEALS THAT HAVE FALLEN THROUGH?
>> CORRECT. I WOULD NOT SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT I THINK THEY WERE CLOSE TO COMPLETION ON DESIGN, WALTER.
>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND TIMEWISE. I DON'T KNOW THE
EXTENT OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. >> THE DEVELOPER, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF LGA. HYPOTHETICALLY, OWING 250,000 EXTRA DOLLARS TO LET US FINISH IT UP. THAT'S UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE IN ANOTHER PREDICAMENT. THEN THE TAIL IS WAGGING THE DOG. AND IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, AM I WRONG ON THAT? IF YOU HAD TWO PARTIES WANTING TO TREAT THE COST OBLIGATIONS, YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO BRING IT JUST
BECAUSE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. IT'S MUCH MORE
SIGNIFICANT THAN THAT. >> SO THAT'S IF PEOPLE WERE IN
AGREEMENT. >> CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF
FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? >> YES SIR. WALTER, LGI
ENGINEER. >> FOR ME, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. THIS IS GOING TO ADD TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ON THAT SIDE OF 130 THAT IS VERY COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT TO DO. THE DESIGN IS ALREADY UNDERWAY TO THE DESIGN FOR THE PRIOR AGREEMENTS. OUR CITY ENGINEERING TEAM, HAVING TO START OVER AND DO IT, START WITH A CITY LEAD INITIATIVE, OR PROJECT. I THINK COST-SHARING WITH THIS IS GREAT. AND TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE MUD, IT IS IN THE E TJ. IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'S NORMALLY TYPICAL. IT IS IN THE SOUTHEAST HUTTO THAT WE RECENTLY ADDRESSED. THAT PROPERTY IS ALSO A MUD . AND THAT ALSO KIND OF DIVERTED THE WATER TREATMENT. SORRY, THE PACKAGE PLANT THERE DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS UP AND COMING BECAUSE WE ARE EXPANDING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND PUTTING THAT INTERCEPTOR LINE THERE, TOO. IT'S NOT COMPARABLE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO COMPARE THE TWO PROJECTS. BUT IS VERY SIMILAR.
WE HAVE APPROVED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS. IN SOUTHEAST
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HUTTO. THIS BEING ANOTHER MUD. BUT HERE, THE DESIGN IS FROM THE DEVELOPER. THE DESIGN WITH THE INTERCEPT THERE'S, THE INITIATIVE. I THINK IT'S COMPARABLE. YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CAUTIONARY AGREEMENT.>> WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> YEAH. THERE HAS BEEN. SEAN ADDED HERE ON BEHALF OF -- I WILL ADMIT, I'VE BEEN ENGAGED ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT 7 OR 8 MONTHS. THEY STARTED WITH THIS PROJECT, TRY TO GET THAT DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PREDATES YOUR TIME. PERHAPS THERE MIGHT BE MORE. THEY INITIALLY STARTED WITH THE KID. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY COULDN'T MAKE THAT WORK. SUBSEQUENT OF THAT, THE PERMIT WAS APPLIED FOR. THAT'S WHEN SOME OF THE TALKS SMOKED UP AND
THE IDEA CAME UP. >> SO LET ME CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT. SO IT STARTED BACK AT THE POINT WHERE SARA WAS DESCRIBING , THEY WERE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS WHEN WE WERE APPROACHING THE CEMENT FOLKS, THE AVERY'S, ALL ABOUT CONTRIBUTING THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO PUT FORWARD THE MONEY. THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE CITY GETTING TO THE POINT OF CHOOSING TO FUND THE LINE. AT THIS POINT, IT WAS STILL ON THE DEVELOPERS. I BELIEVE THEY RAN ALL THE TRAPS THEY COULD. ONCE THEY REALIZED THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET A PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S WHEN THEY ELECTED TO GO AND FILE THE PERMIT FOR THE DISCHARGE. TO FILE THE PERMIT, THEY NEED A FUNDING MECHANISM.
THEY NEED AN ABILITY TO TAX, ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO THE MUD GETS PROPOSED IN ORDER TO DO THE PACKAGE PLAN.
AND THEN ALL OF US RE-ENGAGE. THE RE-ENGAGEMENT AND THE NEGOTIATION, THE CITY NOW PAYING TO BUILD THE LINE THAT WOULD GO UP TO SERVE THEM GETS ADDED INTO THE EQUATION FOR THE FIRST TIME. THE MUD IS STILL THE ENTITY THAT WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. NOW THEY ARE PAYING FOR THEIR SHARE OF THE WASTEWATER LINE. THAT'S THE ITERATION. SO THE ONE THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THE CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIZE AND FUNDING, PUTTING THE BURDEN COMPLETELY ON THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE THE LINE. THAT HAS CHANGED THE DYNAMICS. AND THAT'S BEEN WITHIN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
>> SO WE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT, HEY, HOW DO WE NOT HAVE A MUD? TO ME, THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THAT'S AWAY FROM THE WHOLE CITY. THIS IS RIGHT UP WHERE WE HAVE NO CONTROL. FOR LITTLE BIT OF LIMITED PURPOSE. SO YOU DO HAVE SOME ALONG 130. HAS THERE BEEN NO MORE TALK TO THEM?
>> NOT HOW DO WE CONVINCE YOU, BUT THE QUESTION WAS RAISED.
AND SEAN, YOU CAN FILL THIS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. IF THEY GIVE UP THE MUD, THEY GIVE UP THEIR ABILITY FOR THE PACKAGE PLANT.
THAT IS OUT IN CASES DOESN'T WORK. LIKE WHERE YOU ARE SAYING, MAYBE WE JUST DO THE ONE PAGE, AND WITHOUT THAT AGREEMENT IN PLACE. FINANCIALLY, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE IF THEY HAVE THE ASSURANCE THIS LINE IS BEING BUILT. WITHOUT THAT, THEN THEY WILL NEED THE ABILITY TO GO BACK.
>> DOES THAT SUM IT UP? >> I THINK THAT IS FAIR. I CAN TELL YOU, SINCE I'VE BEEN ENGAGED PHILOSOPHICALLY, IT HASN'T BEEN ON THE TABLE. THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVEN'T
RESUMED, PER SE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I GOT
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THAT. IS THERE NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN GENERATE TO WHERE THESE GUYS WILL BE SAYING AWAKE AT NIGHT, SWEATING BULLETS? I MEAN, WE'VE DONE THIS WITH OTHER GROUPS TO WHERE THEY WILL BE THERE. THAT I THINK WHAT WE DID, WE THEN WORKED THE DEAL OUT WITH THE DEVELOPER. HE TOOK OVER THE PAYMENTS. WE TOOK THATOVER. AM I RIGHT? >> I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S L
JA, OR NOT. >> IT'S LIKE, GO, GO, GO. IN AN EFFORT FOR US TO NOT BE PENALIZED. I MEAN, IF IT'S NOT MOVING QUICK ENOUGH, THE COUNCIL HAS VOTED REGULARLY TO PUSH THAT, FOCUS ON THINGS. THAT WOULD RESOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES VERY QUICKLY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT, OTHER THAN -- I DON'T KNOW, MAN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONDUCIVE FOR US.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, PHILOSOPHICALLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND. JUST TO COMPLEMENT YOUR STAFF, THERE HAS BEEN NO DELAY. JUST TO SPEAK TO ONE POINT THAT CAME UP, IT IS ACTUALLY OCTOBER 26TH. SO THE WAY THAT IT'S ENVISIONED IN THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND I THINK 45 MONTHS OF DESIGN, AND THEN UNDERTAKEN BY THE CITY SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. AND THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION UP UNTIL THE INTERCEPT WILL CONTINUE FROM THERE. THEN IT TIES INTO THE CITY SYSTEM THERE.
>> YEAH, I AGREE. I WOULD RATHER US DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT SWITCH. IF THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PROVE THAT OUT, SO THAT IT'S COMFORTABLE TO MAKE THAT SWITCH, AND YOU GUYS DON'T FEEL THERE IS ANY RISK BECAUSE OF IT.
>> IF YOU GUYS CAN WAIT ONE MEETING. AND GO, I THINK JAMES, YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THE PRESSURE IS USUALLY ON YOU GUYS TO GO. AND THEN YOU CAN GET THROUGH THE ROADBLOCKS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND IF WE'VE GOT TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. I THINK THAT'S BETTER THAN HAVING A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. SAYING, HEY MAN, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE. THEY ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ROADS. IT'S LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN GO OUT THERE. BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE ME A VOTE. HEY, COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS, AND WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN. THEY'VE BEEN JERKED AROUND FOR A WHILE. FOCUS ON SOME OF THAT STUFF.
NOW WE ARE LASER FOCUSED. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
>> WE MET WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. THERE WERE ONLY FOUR HERE. EVERYBODY IS NOW IN ALIGNMENT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. MAYBE BECAUSE I'M TIRED AND IT'S LATE. BUT HOW DOES A KID IN THE E TJ WORK WHENEVER THEY ARE NOT NEXT INTO THIS? THEY ARE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS. DO THEY STILL MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS?
>> WE WOULD REQUIRE AN ANNEXATION AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. PART OF THAT WOULD BE THE TYPICAL PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THIS IS, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE ADJACENT ON ONE SIDE. AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE THE AREA ANNEXING TO THE CITY.
>> THIS PROPERTY, DOESN'T HAVE A CITY PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT?
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NOT TODAY? >> I BET MONEY ON THIS, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT ALL THE LAND THAT'S RIGHT BELOW THEM. I BET THEY WOULD LET US IN THE 10 FOOT STRIP TO LET US ACROSS. I CAN'T GUARANTEE, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMEONE IN THE CITY, THAT KIND OF CONTROL AND OVERSIGHT NORTH OF ALL THEIR LAND IN THEIR FARMING AREA. UNLESS YOU CAN DO THE
ANNEXATION VOLUNTARILY. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO IT. IT WAS JUST HAVE TO BE ADJACENT.
>> OKAY. >> SO IF THEY SAID, YEAH, WE WILL GIVE YOU 10 FEET, THEN THEY WENT ACROSS 130.
>> A LOT OF TIMES, YOU LOOK AT WHATEVER INSURANCE PRESSURE -- INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED. THEY DONATE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU NEXT THE REST OF IT.
>> THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF IT IS WHAT?
>> IS JUST VACANT, RIGHT? >> THAT SCREEN.
>> BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF HUTTO.
>> AM I CRAZY? >> YOU ARE CRAZY. ABOUT THIS,
>> THERE IS A WAY WE CAN DO THAT, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU ARE NEXT IN THE CITY. WE CAN STILL HAVE A PAYMENT MECHANISM. YEAH.
THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE IN THE CITY.
LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THE SYSTEMS WERE THERE. THERE IS A
WAY TO DO IT. >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
CERTAINLY, I HEAR EVERYTHING Y'ALL ARE SAYING. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE A DEAL HERE. BUT I REPRESENT MUD BOARDS EVERY DAY. I UNDERSTAND. CERTAINLY NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. I THINK WE CAN WORK TO COME BACK AS SOON AS WE CAN AND
SEE WHERE WE ARE AT. >> YEAH, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CUSS US LEAVING HERE. I WOULD SAY THE FIRST TIME WE SAT DOWN, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, -- AND BY THE END OF IT, IT WAS LIKE, OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE ARE BEST FRIENDS, BUT YOU'VE BEEN WITH THEM, IT'S A LOT BETTER RELATIONSHIP. GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND TELL YOUR CLIENT THAT THESE PEOPLE GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. I THINK IT HAS WORKED WELL HERE. WE ALL UNDERSTAND, AND HAVE NO ISSUES. THEY COME APPEAR. THEY WANT US TO FIX STUFF. LIKE, I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOUR HOME.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
>> I WANT TO OFFER ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WE'VE GOT A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW THIS PROPERTY WILL DEVELOP. THE BIGGEST PUSHBACK FROM THE DEVELOPER IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ANNEXATION, THEY WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO ALL OF OUR STANDARDS. THAT'S SOMETHING I SEE TRYING TO GO THE PIT ROUTE.
IF THAT IS DISCUSSED, BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO ADHERE TO ALL OF OUR DEVELOPER RULES AND REGULATIONS. THEY DO STILL HAVE THAT PERMIT GOING. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE STICKY POINT WE'VE SEEN WITH A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES. THEY'VE NOT GONE AWAY FROM IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE TRIGGER POINT FOR ONE OF THEM. AND WHAT THE PROPOSED DEAL LOOKS LIKE. DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MINDS. WILLING TO WORK WITH SEAN TO EXPLORE THE OPTION. THAT IMMEDIATELY IS GOING TO BE THE BIG DETERRENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. THEIR PACKAGE PLANT IS PROCESSING.
>> AND TO DO THAT FOR THE OTHER PROPERTY BEFORE, THERE WAS ALSO IN THE COUNTY. IT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE
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AGREEMENT. WE DIDN'T IMPOSE THIS.>> CORRECT. THEY WERE ALREADY SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS PROPERTY IS STILL VACANT LAND. I JUST WANT YOU AS A COUNSEL TO BE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THOSE IMPLICATIONS WILL BE AND HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE
URGENCY WE HAD WITH LENNAR. >> LEGALLY, CAN THIS COUNCIL VOTE? I HATE TO RUN HIM THROUGH THAT. LEGALLY, THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR US TO CHANGE THE STANCE FOR THIS?
>> CORRECT. IN THE AGREEMENT, YOU PUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY VARIANCES.
>> EASY PEASY. I THINK I FOLLOWED THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY GUIDELINES. IN THAT WAY, IF THAT IS HOW IT WORKS, YOU GUYS GET TO DO WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING IN THE COUNTY. AND THEN I COULD SELL THAT TO MY CONSTITUENTS. YOU GOT TWO CHOICES. YOU CAN LET THEM BUILD THE COUNTY AND DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, OR LET THEM GO TO THE CITY AND DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. THAT'S IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKING SURE THE ROADS ARE OF, PULLEY SAFETY, THINGS LIKE THAT. I AWAY SAY IT SHOULD BE A ONE PAGER. I DON'T KNOW. ONE PAGE TURNS INTO 35 PAGES. BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK THERE VERY QUICKLY. WE DO HAVE A HISTORY OF WORKING THIS. WE WORKED THROUGH THAT. SO I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO MAYBE MODIFY
IT A LITTLE BIT. >> WE WOULD JUST NEED TO -- I WOULD JUST NEED TO GET THE MAPS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ANNEX WITH THE ADJACENCY REQUIREMENT? WE COULD USE OUR TEMPLATE FOR ANNEXATION AND AGREEMENT, FIGURING OUT WHATEVER ELSE IT CAN PAY FOR THAT THEY WOULD TRADITIONALLY HAVE THE MUD PAY
FOR. >> ANYBODY OBJECT TO WAITING A
COUPLE WEEKS? >> ALL RIGHT. IF YOU GUYS DON'T HEAR BACK FROM THE CITY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, LET US
KNOW. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM.
>> YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE NO ACTION ON THAT ONE. YOU GUYS CAN JUST BRING IT BACK IN TWO
WEEKS. >> PERFECT. I WILL WORK WITH HIM TO GET SOME OF THAT ANNEXATION STUFF CLARIFIED.
>> AWESOME. I WILL CALL TOMORROW, AND WE WILL KNOW RIGHT AWAY. AND AS THEY SAY, YES, THEY OWN ENOUGH PROPERTY
] >> YEAH, I THINK SO. BECAUSE RIGHT ACROSS FROM YOU GUYS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 130. NOW IT'S
DEVELOPING DOWN. YEAH. OKAY. >> YEAH. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THINGS MOVING. I THINK JAMES SAYS I HAVE BEEN THE MOST IMPATIENT PERSON IN THE WORLD. WE'VE GOT TO EIGHT. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US UP TO D. THE EDUCATION -- EXECUTION OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE COMPLETION OF A CERTAIN ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO ACCESS THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> PERFECT. THIS IS FOR A LICENSE AGREEMENT. HE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. WHAT WE SAW THERE, THEIR EASEMENT EARLIER, AND THEN THE WATER AGREEMENT, AS WELL. THIS IS TO FACILITATE THE BUILDING OF A DRIVE THAT WILL ACCESS THEIR MULTIFAMILY FACILITIES AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN TO COUNSEL, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A ROW THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS FINANCIALLY ABLE TO PROVIDE, GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE WE ARE SENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW. I WAS WITH THEM, AND WORKED OUT A WAY FOR THEM TO CONNECT TO THE ROADS THEY NEED. AND THEN SAVE THE BUILDING OF
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THAT ENTIRE ROAD FOR ANOTHER PARTY FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.AND I HAVE A MAP, TOO THAT I CAN GIVE Y'ALL IF YOU NEED TO
LOOK AT IT, AS WELL. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO APARTMENTS PHASE RELATED TO THE COMPLETION AND CONSTRUCTION NECESSARY TO ACCESS THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> THE MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> THANK YOU. >> IS IT EAST OF ED SCHMIDT, OR
>> YES, CORRECT. >> OH, I REMEMBER THIS ONE.
>> YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT SIDEWAYS TO SEE THE COMPASS IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER. YOU ARE WEST OF ED SCHMIDT. THE RED OUTLINE WAS THE ROAD THEY WERE PROPOSING TO BUILD. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN $3 MILLION. THAT'S NOTHING THAT IS USABLE FOR THE CITY AT THIS TIME. THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN SPACE. THAT IS THE AREA WE ARE FACILITATING THE BUILD OF A DRIVE TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE
FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE. >> OKAY. SO THEY ARE BUILDING WITH THEIR MONEY THIS RIBBON ROAD RIGHT HERE.
>> CORRECT. >> THIS SHOULD BE LIKE A 25
FOOT ROAD. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FIRE
>> NO, 17 OVERALL MEETS FIRE CODE.
>> ALL RIGHT. AND THEY ARE IN THE CITY?
>> CORRECT. >> OKAY. AND THEY ARE BUILDING
THAT ROAD? >> THEY ARE BUILDING THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S THE GREEN SPACE, THE UN-SHADED SPACE WITHIN THAT RED RIBBON. CORRECT.
>> SO THAT WE DON'T RIP IT ALL UP, IS THAT HALF THE ROAD?
>> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BUILDING IT TO THE SPECS OF A ROAD. THEY ARE BUILDING IT TO BE A DRIVEWAY, I BELIEVE.
>> WELL, THEY HAVE TO IF THEY ARE IN THE CITY.
>> SO, THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EVEN. WE'VE ALREADY NEGOTIATED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN FORCE THEM TO BUILD ANYWAY OTHER THAN THE WAY THEY WANT TO. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE
CAN'T NEGOTIATE IT. >> THE COST SHARE HALF THE ROAD. I FEEL LIKE IF THEY BUILD A THIRD OF A ROAD, AND THEN WE COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS TO BUILD A ROAD, THEN WE WOULD DIG UP THE WHOLE ROLL THEY JUST DID. YOU WILL WANT A 40 FOOT WIDE ROAD. IS THERE WAY TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD HAVE? LIKE YOU SEE THE UNIVERSITY. THEY BUILT ONE ROAD, THEY CAME BACK YEARS LATER, AND IS THERE WAY TO DO THAT? KEEP TEARING STUFF OUT,
LETTING PEOPLE PUT IN. >> I MEAN, YES. THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT. WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK WHAT THE ACTUAL CAUSE DIFFERENT IS. TO MAKE IT TO WHERE THEIR DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY HALF THE WIDTH OF THE ACTUAL ROAD DESIGN.
>> IF WE GO TO BUILD THIS, HOW WHAT THEY GET OUT OF THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD? >> YOU WOULD BUILD ONE SIDE AT A TIME AND LEAVE THE OTHER OPEN FOR TRAFFIC.
>> RIGHT HERE? >> IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COMES OUT WITH THE ROAD SPLITS, AND THERE IS A MEDIAN. I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAP. IT'S EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD.
>> AND I WILL SAY, THE COMPLETION OF THE ROAD AND ITS ENTIRETY, THERE WAS A CALCULATION DONE BASED ON USAGE. IT WAS ESSENTIALLY COMING TO THE TABLE THAT THEY WOULD ONLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 7% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE ROAD. EVEN IF IT IS HALF THE ROAD BUDGETED AT 3 MILLION.
HALF OF THAT IS 1.5. IF THEY'RE GOING TO ARGUE THAT THEY ARE ONLY USING 7% IN THE LONG RUN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MATH WOULD BE FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE, GIVEN THE FINANCIALS AT THE TIME. WE CAN RUN THE NUMBERS, BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, GIVEN ALL THE
CIRCUMSTANCES. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
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>> MOTION PASSES 6-1. >> MAYOR, WE DIDN'T DO 16.1.
WE HAVE ACTION ON 15 1A AND 15 1B.
>> NEXT, ITEM 16.1 RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS
LISTED ABOVE. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE BRIEFED YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OUR ATTORNEY JOE FREELAND IS RECOMMENDING A CEASE AND DISMISS PETITION TO BE FILED. WE WOULD REQUEST A MOTION TO HAVE HIM PREPARE AND FILE THE PETITION AT THE PUC AT THE COST NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.
>> AND FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THE PRESERVED HUTTO CASE.
>> MI IN THE MEETING NOW? >> I WOULD ASSUME, SINCE YOU
LEFT THE DICE. >> WHO MADE THE MOTION?
>> I DID. >> LET ME WRITE THIS DOWN. OH,
HERE HE COMES. WE WILL WAIT. >> I APOLOGIZE. WITH THAT I
MISS? >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND PERIODS MOTION WAS TO HAVE JOE FREELAND PREPARE AND FILE THE -- TO EXCEED $10,000. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE PRESERVED HUTTO
>> RANDALL. >> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM B?
>> YES. >> 4B, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CLAIM FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF ADDITIONAL COST FOR LINE REPAIRED , NOT TO EXCEED
$75,236. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE DID PREPARE RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN PUT THAT AMOUNT IN.
>> DIRECTING A FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
>> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> THE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GORDON. SECONDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE
>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ANY OTHER EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS? ALL
[17. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS ]
RIGHT. 16.2. WE CAN SKIP THAT ONE, RIGHT? 17.1, GENERALCOMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? >> MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE CITIZENS WHO CAME TO OUR WORK SESSION THIS AFTERNOON. THIS EVENING AT 6:00, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ALLOWING SOME NUMBER OF NON-US CITIZENS TO SERVE ON OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION. ALL THE COUNCILS RECEIVED A BUNCH OF COMMENTS WITHIN THE MEETING. I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION. JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION. WE ULTIMATELY VOTED AGAINST TAKING ANY KIND OF AN ACTION RELATING TO THAT CONSIDERATION. IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING WILL BE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. I DID WANT TO ALSO OFFER A FEW CLARIFICATIONS. SOME OF THE COMMUNICATIONS I HAVE RECEIVED FROM CITIZENS ASKING ABOUT THE ITEM. AND I ALSO NOTICED THE
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ITEM WAS VAGUE ENOUGH TO WHERE IT WASN'T CLEAR AS TO WHAT IT WAS I WAS PROPOSING AND WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO ALLOW NON-US CITIZENS WHO HAVE PERMANENT RESIDENT, OR I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE LEGAL TERM IS. RESIDENT ALIEN STATUS, BASICALLY GREEN CARD HOLDERS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY OF HUTTO. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN ONE PERSON ON EACH OF THE BOARDS AND IT WAS ONLY LIMITED TO THREE BOARDS. PEOPLE NOT LIVING IN THE CITY OF HUTTO, AND PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HOLD GREEN CARDS, THAT KIND OF THING. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER CLARIFICATION ON THAT. AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR COMMENTS, EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, AND ATTENDING THE MEETING TODAY.>> I JUST WANT TO SAY I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A HAPPY AND SAFE HALLOWEEN. WE ARE GETTING INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON. WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF CITY EVENTS. PLEASE COME OUT FOR EVERYTHING. AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID BEFORE. AND ALSO, I HOPE EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO TAKE PART IN THEIR CIVIC DUTY THIS WEEK. THAT'S ALL WE
HAD TO SAY. THANKS. >> I GUESS ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I LIKE A GOOD 5K AND A GOOD 5K FOR A GOOD CAUSE. IT IS CALLED THE TWILIGHT TROT IN HUTTO.
IT'S NO CHARGE TO RUN THE 5K. IT WILL START AT WINFIELD.
IT'S A NIGHT RUN, TOO. NEXT SATURDAY. NEXT SATURDAY NIGHT
RUN, 5:30. >> NEXT SATURDAY MEETING THE
16TH? >> YES. NOVEMBER 16TH, YEAH. AT 5:30. YOU RUN THE TRAIL. AND DONATIONS ARE BEING ACCEPTED FOR THE PARKS FOUNDATION. ALSO, THIS RUN CAN HIGHLIGHT JUST SOME OF THE LIGHT INSTALLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED ON THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR. ALSO, IT'S KIND OF COOL TO RUN AT NIGHT.
DEFINITELY COME OUT FOR THAT. A QUICK 30 MINUTES, 45, AND YOU'RE DONE. THEN YOU CAN GO HAVE A COLD BEER. DEFINITELY COME OUT NEXT SATURDAY. 539 P.M., NOVEMBER 16TH.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I HAVE ONE. I WOULD JUST PUT IT BRIEFLY. AN ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE GYM USAGE.
>> MAYOR, I KNOW TECHNICALLY THIS ISN'T AN ITEM FOR ME. I HEARD WHAT COUNSEL HAS BEEN DISCUSSING, TRYING TO GET INTO BUDGET SOONER. I HAVE ASKED STAFF TO BRING THE CIP TO COUNSEL AT THE NEXT MEETING TO START HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. 17.3. FUTURE ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULE MEETINGS AS ALLOWED BY HUTTO CITY CODE SECTION 1.0 2.033 ADDITIONAL OR RESCHEDULE
MEETINGS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO EARLY, BUT WE DO HAVE IN JUNE A FEDERAL HOLIDAY OF JUNETEENTH.
THAT IS A COUNSEL NIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE 12, OR MOVE IT TO THE 26TH OF JUNE. BUT THAT 19TH MEETING IS A HOLIDAY. CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED.
>> YEAH. STAFF IS OFF. >> RIGHT. SO JUNE 12?
>> JUNE 19TH IS THE COUNSEL. >> SOMEONE WILL PROBABLY WANT THE THIRD OFF. SO THEN IF YOU DO THE 12, WE GO ANOTHER MONTH.
SO JULY 10TH, THAT MEETING TOO INSTEAD OF THE THIRD?
>> YEAH, I THINK SO. >> THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE
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A FOUR DAY WEEKEND. RIGHT? >> MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL WE GET CLOSER. THAT'S WHENEVER WE GET INTO BUDGET, RIGHT? AT
THE END OF JUNE. >> AND THEN WE HAVE ELECTIONS
IN MAY, AS WELL. >> IS AT THE END OF JUNE, OR JULY THAT WE START? THAT YOU PRESENTED US?
>> SO I PRESENT TO COUNSEL I THINK BY CHARTER IT HAS TO BE LIKE THE 15TH OF AUGUST. TRADITIONALLY, I'VE BEEN DOING IT AT THE END OF JULY. SO IF YOU MESS WITH THE EARLY PART OF JULY, THAT WILL NOT MESS UP ANYTHING.
>> I MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE MOVE TO THE 19TH MEETING, AND THE JUNE 3RD MEETING TO JULY 10TH.
>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> YEAH, I'LL SECOND.
>> AND A DISCUSSION? LET'S CALL THE VOTE.
>> WE MOVED THAT ONE. >> WHAT'S THE CONCERN?
>> SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT JANUARY 2ND. I SAID WE ALREADY MOVED THAT
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