7.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.

[7.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments. ]

>> WITH THAT, ITEM SEVEN 1, THE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND FORCES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX REINVESTMENTS AND AREA

GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. >> THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE DID NOT GET INTERVIEWS OR NOT RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. I WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THIS COMMITTEE CHANGES ON JANUARY 1. THIS WOULD ROLL OVER TO SEATS ONE,

3, 5 STARTING IN JANUARY. >> THANK YOU. ANY ELSE FROM

[7.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations from City Council sub-committees (i.e. Legislative). ]

COUNSEL? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS

FROM CITY COUNCIL SCOTT . >> THE LEGISLATIVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS NOT MET SINCE THE LAST COUNSEL MEETING WHEN WE PROPOSED THE RESOLUTIONS TO BE DRAFTED. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST WAITING ON THOSE TO COME FROM STAFF TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

>> THE VETERAN SUBCOMMITTEE PERHAPS ON PLAN FOR JANUARY.

THERE IS ONE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE.

>> THE WATER , WE HAVE NOT MET ON THAT YET. ITEM 7 .

[7.3. Consideration and possible action for the Mayor to create a sub-committee of Council to help address concerns raised by the Durango Farms HOA and residents regarding HOA and Developer responsibilities. (Peter Gordon) ]

CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE MAYOR TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNSEL TO ADDRESS CONCERNS RAISED BY HOH AND RESIDENTS REGARDING AGE AWAY AND DEVELOPER

RESPONSIBILITIES. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. AS YOU ARE AWARE I SENT YOU AN EMAIL LAST WEEK. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEND OUT MY APPRECIATION TO PETER FOR HIS WELL AND THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK AS A FORMALITY, NOT NECESSARILY THAT I HAD TO BE HERE. I WANTED TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMITTING THIS SUBCOMMITTEE IS EXTREMELY CRUCIAL. I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT OF CITY OF HUTTO. MANY OF US THAT ARE COMING FROM AND NEWER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BUILT IN THE HUTTO COMMUNITY FEEL AS SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS . BECAUSE WE MOVED HERE OR NOT A FORMER MAYOR OR NOT A LONG TIME RESIDENTS THAT OUR VOICES DO NOT MATTER. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE MOVEMENT OF THIS ACTION OF ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS. NOT ALLOWING DEVELOPERS JUST GET AWAY WITH NOT TAKING DUE DILIGENCE ON THE THINGS THEY SAID AND PROMISED THAT WAS MEANT TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND AGREED UPON WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO TO BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THAT PROMISE WAS NOT UPHELD BY THE DEVELOPER. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO STAND HERE ALONG WITH A FEW OF MY HOMEOWNERS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE . DEVELOPING THIS SUBCOMMITTEE IS VERY, VERY PERSONAL TO ME AND ALSO TO OUR HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE 200 HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD BENEFIT AS WELL AS OUR AGE AWAY BUDGET FROM NOT HAVING TO TAKE THE PROBLEMS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS INTENTIONALLY LEFT US. ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE SKIRTED THE LINES OF LEGALITY, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THIS SKIRTING OF THE LINE OF LEGALITY WAS NOT DONE TO BE KIND OR ETHICAL. EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE NOT BEEN AWARE OF THE TIMELINE AND THE DETAILS HAS BEEN VERY UNETHICAL IN PRACTICE. I BELIEVE THAT A

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SUBCOMMITTEE HAS TO BE MADE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU THAT THIS PASS THIS SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE CAN TAKE ACTION AND GET OUR COMMUNITY TO BEAT WHAT WAS PROMISED FOR US. WE CAN REMOVE SOME OF THIS BURDEN, OVER $100,000 AND CONTINUES TO PILE UP EVERY DAY AS WE LEARN MORE AND MORE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE PASS AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE ACTION HAPPEN

ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE REASON I RECOMMENDED THIS IS JUST TO HELP US PREVENT VIOLATING . THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO WORK WITH THESE CITIZENS AND HELP THEM FIGURE IT OUT. I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT IF THERE ARE FOUR OR MORE THAT WOULD START WORKING ON THIS ISSUE , IF WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH STATE LAW. PERHAPS THERE COULD BE SOME THAT ARE ALREADY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THEM OR OTHER INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WILL WORK WITH THE CITIZENS. IF WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT EACH OF US IS DOING, IT COULD RUN INTO FOUL BALLS . I THOUGHT CELEBRATING - SELECTING A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD ALSO HELP THE CITIZENS KNOW WHO THEIR CONTACTS ARE BIG RIGHT NOW, SHE JUST EMAILED ALL SEVEN OF US AND LOOKING FOR A RESPONSE. BUT AT LEAST THEY WOULD KNOW THESE ARE THE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED. I DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHO WOULD SERVE BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE

THE WISE MOVE. >> LET ME DISAGREE. AND I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN BACK TO YOU YET. PLANNING FOR A MEETING WITH ANY DEVELOPERS WITH THE MONEY BEHIND THE DEVELOPERS. ALSO, MATT IF YOU ARE ON A LOOP ON WHAT YOU HAVE HAD WITH RESEARCH. THAT IS WHY A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE GOOD.

STAFF HAS GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THE RETENTION PONDS AND THE REPORT WITH A FOLLOW-UP. WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM WYATT HENDERSON FROM MA DEVELOPMENT . IF THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE, TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT WORKING WITH THE SAME PATH. DO YOU KNOW , MATT , IN TERMS ON STAFF WHO

SENT THE REPORT OUT. >> IT WAS ENGINEERING.

>> I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE IS NEEDED AND THERE ARE THREE PHASES THEY SHOULD LOOK AT. WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AS THEY EXIST TODAY TO HELP MOVE THOSE TO RESOLUTIONS . WHATEVER THAT RESOLUTION MAY BE. THE SECOND PART IS WE, DID WE MISS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN EXISTING PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IF ANYTHING. I KNOW THINGS HAVE BEEN STATED AND WE HAVE NOT TOTALLY LOOKED AT IT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND FULLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND THE THIRD PART IS WHAT SHOULD WE BE CHANGING TO MAKE THIS BETTER IN THE FUTURE SO THERE ARE LESS CRACKS FOR THINGS TO FALL THROUGH. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE SOME OVERLAP WITH EACH PHASE. A SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD BE JUMPING IN ON THE PROBLEMS TODAY AND WORKING THROUGH THE OTHER TWO AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

>> I AGREE. >> YES .

>> IS THERE ANOTHER PERSON ? >> I WILL JUMP ON.

>> BRIAN THOMPSON, SNYDER, AND I MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION I HAVE FROM JAMES AND I WILL GET THE MEETING TIME WITH MATT HARRIS. HE IS WITH THE BUTLER FAMILY ,

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SO WE CAN START WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH THE MONEY AND WORKING DOWN. HE IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND WE WILL ALSO WORK TO FIND AND COMMUNICATE . WE WILL BRING YOU IN ON THE MEETING TOO. IN MY MIND BECAUSE A SUBCOMMITTEE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE COUNCILMEMBERS. IF YOU ARE OKAY WE WILL STAY IN CONTACT WITH YOU SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. IS THERE SOMETHING THE STAFF CAN SHARE WITH THEM, THE FINDINGS OF THE PONDS AND THE TREES. WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE ISSUES WITH THE TREES AND THE PONDS AND NOW OTHER OBLIGATIONS. WE WILL GET

THAT . WE ARE WORKING . >> THIS BRINGS US UP TO THE

[8.1. Hutto Chamber of Commerce Quarterly Update (Joe Gonzalez) ]

HUTTO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE QUARTERLY UPDATE , JOE. HOW ARE

YOU? >> GOOD, AND I SAW SOME OF YOU YESTERDAY. I DO NOT KNOW IF ALL OF YOU ATTENDED BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT. WE WERE WELL REPRESENTED. IT IS THAT THE TIME OF THE YEAR IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER NEARING THE END OF 2024. I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE LAST HUTTO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REPORT FOR 2024. AS YOU KNOW, THIS REPORT HIGHLIGHTS OUR RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS , OUR ONGOING INITIATIVES AND STRATEGIC PLANS TO BOLSTER OUR BUSINESSES. OF COURSE TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AS ALWAYS, I START WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP GROWTH. AS WE CLOSE OUT DECEMBER, 2024, THE HUTTO CHAMBER HAS GROWN BY 284 MEMBERS. WE WELCOMED 51 NEW BUSINESSES INTO OUR CHAMBER UNDERSCORING THE JOINT RECOGNITION OF THE VALUE AND THE SUPPORT AND FOSTERING A VIBRANT LOCAL LANDSCAPE. I HAVE BEEN UP HERE FOR TIMES THIS YEAR , I AM NOT QUITE SURE IF YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I WAS HERE WHICH WAS THE END OF 2023. I REMEMBER GOING OVER THE MEMBERSHIP GROWTH . I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT WE STARTED ROUGHLY AT 300. BASICALLY IN ONE YEAR, WE HAVE GROWN BY 300 WHICH IN A SMALL COMMITTEE LIKE THIS IS A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT. I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY. EVERYTHING THE CITY IS DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. BUT I ATTRIBUTE OUR GROWTH TO THAT AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR US.

AS I MENTIONED IN OUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND UPDATES, WE ARE A VERY EVENT DRIVEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THIS LAST QUARTER, WE ORGANIZED 19 DIFFERENT NETWORKING EVENTS WHICH INCLUDE OUR MONTHLY LUNCHEONS, POWER BREAKFAST AND MIXERS. THIS LAST QUARTER , WE DECIDED TO START EXPERIMENTING WITH SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF NETWORKING EVENTS. ONE IN PARTICULAR AND I KNOW I HAVE SEEN YOU THERE FOR THE LAST TWO IN PARTICULAR WAS OUR DEVELOPERS NETWORKING MIXER. WE INTRODUCE THE DEVELOPERS NETWORKING EVENT WHICH IS GEARED TOWARDS ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS IN HUTTO AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES. THE EVENT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER PROFESSIONALS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY WHICH HAS CREATED A PLATFORM FOR VALUABLE INTERACTION AND COLLABORATION. THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL. WE ARE AVERAGING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 40 TO 60 ATTENDEES PER MIXER. WE HAVE SEEN THAT INCREASE AND IT HAS MOTIVATED US TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT OTHER TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH AND EXTEND OUR NETWORKING EVENT WITH. IN PARTICULAR, IN THE FUTURE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE HISPANIC AND ASIAN CHAMBERS AND THE OTHER LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFIT IN AUSTIN. BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR AT LEAST THREE TO FIVE NEW TYPE OF MIXERS FOR

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2025 WHICH WILL BE COUPLED WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE, THUS FAR. KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR THE EMAIL AND THE NEWSLETTER. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW. THIS LAST QUARTER WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN A BLOOD DRIVE.

WE HOSTED A SUCCESSFUL BLOOD DRIVE AND IT COLLECTED 19 UNITS OF BLOOD. WE ESTIMATE THAT 19 UNITS OF BLOOD WOULD REACH AND IMPACT THE LIVES OF 57 INDIVIDUALS. WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE COMMUNITY THAT PARTICIPATED. THEY CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND WE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY DO THIS NEXT YEAR, ONCE OR TWICE.

WE WANT TO IT TWICE OR THREE TIMES NEXT YEAR AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU PARTICIPATE. IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WE GATHERED OUR LUNCHEON WHICH WE HAD 80 ATTENDEES. IT WAS DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING TENANT LOCAL NONPROFITS . THIS FOSTERED COMMITTEES. AND INSPIRED SIGNIFICANT DONATIONS TO EACH ONE OF THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE AT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND CONTRIBUTING TO THIS LUNCHEON.

THIS LAST QUARTER, WE DEFINITELY WERE VERY BUSY IN REFERENCE TO RIBBON-CUTTING. AS A COMMUNITY, WE SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHED 22 NEW BUSINESSES THROUGH A RIBBON CUTTING. THESE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY SHOWCASE THE VIBRANT GROWTH WITHIN CITY OF HUTTO AND THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT THAT IS FORAGING HERE. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE EMAILS OR NEWSLETTER , BUT THUS FAR FOR NEXT YEAR WE ALREADY HAVE FIVE RIBBON CUTTINGS SET UP. IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH COMING AND IT IS JUST GROWING MORE AND MORE. THESE NEW BUSINESSES ARE COMING IN AND FOR US , WE HEARD THAT IT IS JUST BEEN PHENOMENAL. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. IN LAST QUARTER WE HAD OUR 39TH ANNUAL OLD-TIME DAYS. THIS YEAR, IT IS OUR SIGNATURE EVENT AND WE ATTRACTED OVER 6000 VISITORS.

IT CULMINATED INTO A SOLD-OUT VENDOR BOOTH EXPERIENCE. WHEN WE HAVE 6000 VISITORS AND WE SELL OUT, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE CHAMBER IS DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO GIVE THESE NUMBERS OUT AND TO SEE THIS MANY VISITORS COME OUT FOR AN EVENT IN OUR DOWNTOWN.

IT IS PHENOMENAL TO SEE THIS AND WE THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THE SUPPORT AND THE ENGAGEMENT. WE OF COURSE LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR'S EVENT AS WELL. WE DO A LOT OF MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION. WE DO NOT HAVE MUCH TO SHARE IN REFERENCE TO THIS SEGMENT. LET ME SAY THIS LAST QUARTER WE WERE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THE COMPLETION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE FINALLY HAVE THAT DONE AND WILL BE SOON BE DISTRIBUTED TO LOCAL BUSINESSES. THIS INITIATIVE AIMS TO ENHANCE VISIBILITY FOR OUR MEMBERS AND PROVIDES A RESOURCES FOR RESIDENCES AND VISITORS. WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT COMES OUT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. WE WILL HAVE THEM AND BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISTRIBUTE THEM IN AND OF COURSE GOING INTO 2025, WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS. OUR MOST RECENT EVENT TO CLOSE OUT PARTICIPATION AS FAR AS THE LEAD HUTTO PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE OUR GOAL IN THIS YEAR , WE ARE TRYING TO GET UP TO 15 PERHAPS 20. RIGHT NOW WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE 10 AND WE WANT TO REACH OUR GOAL. IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED, PLEASE LET US KNOW. TAKE A LOOK AT IT AT THE WEBSITE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. MIKE WAS THERE LAST YEAR AND IT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, FIVE MONTHS. WE WILL HAVE NINE SESSIONS BUT ADDITIONALLY EXPENDED THOSE SESSIONS TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF AREAS. WE HAVE MORE COLLABORATION THIS YEAR, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE CHIEF IS GOING TO BRING A TEAM TO TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND THE COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS SKILLS. HOW HE LOOKS AT THE LEADERSHIP FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO THIS WILL BE THE 2025, A LEGISLATIVE YEAR. WE ARE EXCITED BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE LEGISLATIVE DAY . WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR LEAD

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HUTTO ATTENDEES AND PARTICIPANTS TO THE STATE CAPITAL. WE WILL SPEND THREE HOURS TO FOUR HOURS WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, AND STATE SENATORS. WE WERE FORTUNATE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAD RESERVED THE OLD SUPREME COURT BUILDING FOR US. WE HAVE SAMPLE DASHES SEVERAL SPEAKERS COMING IN. WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT WITHIN THIS LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE WILL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE EVENT.

COMING UP AND WE ARE PREPARING FOR IT IS OUR ANNUAL GALA. THIS WILL BE HELD FEBRUARY 1ST, 2025 AND EVERYBODY IS INVITED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW AND WE ARE PROMOTING IT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE ARE ANTICIPATING IT TO BE BIGGER THAN LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR WE AR PARTICIPATING BIGGER WITH 40 TO 500. THE EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES INSIDE THE GALA WILL BE MORE ROBUST THIS YEAR. AS I MENTIONED WE ARE ANTICIPATING MORE THIS YEAR AND ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU THERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW. THIS NEXT YEAR WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING DIFFERENT . I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU KNOW BUT I AM THE NEW CHAIRMAN OF THE HUTTO BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I HAVE TAKEN THAT ABOUT 1 1/2 MONTHS AGO OR SO. ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS TO INCLUDE THE CITY, THE COMMITTEE, THE CHAMBER AND OF COURSE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF HUTTO. I HAVE TAKEN AN IDEA FROM OTHER CHAMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO CREATE COFFEE WITH THE CHAIRMAN. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A NETWORKING EVENT AT THE END OF EACH QUARTER. WE ARE RESERVING AN AREA WITH THE CHAIRMAN. THAT IS GOING TO BE A NETWORKING EVENT WHERE I WILL BE THERE, OF COURSE. AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THE CITY OF HUTTO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I WILL GIVE THEM AN UPDATE OF WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE HUTTO AREA OF COMMERCE. WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND ANTICIPATING. WE ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE THE CITY , THE COUNCIL AND ANYBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE TO COME IN. WE WANT TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW IS WHAT IS GOING ON THE CITY OF HUTTO AS WELL. I WANTED TO BE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE, Q&A INTO MAINLY NETWORKING. IT IS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HUTTO . YOU WILL BE RECEIVING AN EMAIL AND I HOPE I CAN SEE YOU THERE. WE WILL WORK ON AGENDAS FOR PARTICIPATION AND REACH OUT TO SEE IF ANYBODY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE PARTICIPATION. I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. EVERY ONE OF OUR NETWORKING EVENTS AND GALAS ARE GETTING SO MUCH PARTICIPATION IN SO MANY PEOPLE COMING INTO HUTTO. I HAD SOME PEOPLE TELL ME YESTERDAY AND TODAY THAT HUTTO GOT SO MUCH LOVE, IT WAS CRAZY. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE HIGHWAY 79 THAT ALSO GOT A LOT OF LOVE. THERE WAS A BOARD MEETING AND WE HAD A LOVE THERE AS WELL. IT IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. EVERYBODY IS INTRIGUED AND THEY WANT TO BE HERE AND WHAT IS GOING ON AND BE A PART OF IT.

THIS WILL BE A PART OF EXTENDING SOME OF OUR NETWORKING EVENTS AND TO GET INFORMATION OUT. WITH THAT SAID, THAT IS GOING TO WRAP IT UP FOR 2024. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE COMING UP THIS YEAR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT NEXT YEAR AND IS SEEING ALL OF YOU AT OUR EVENTS. HOPEFULLY I WILL SEE YOU AT THE GALA. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT AND LET US KNOW. WE ARE HERE TO

SERVE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, JOE AND

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER AND I THINK THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE CHAMBER AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT. THANK YOU. AND IF I DO NOT SEE YOU BEFORE THE HOLIDAY , MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ]

>> THIS IS BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 9.1 TO 9 .

10 . ARE THERE ANY THAT WE SHOULD PULL?

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>> 94 3, NINE . 8, 94 9 WITH NO OTHER ITEMS , WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> AND SO MOVED. >> SECOND..

>> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING ON, CALL THE VOTE.

CALLED ] THIS PASSION IS - PASSES 7-0 AND RESOLUTION OF

[9.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No.R-2024-322 accepting the infrastructure improvements for the subdivision known as Cottonwood Creek Phase 5. (Rick Coronado) ]

ACCEPTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION AS THIS COTTONWOOD CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT .

>> GOOD EVENING . PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, RICK CORONADO.

>> I HAD MORE OF A GENERALIZED QUESTION AND IT IS SMART. WHEN WE ACCEPT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AN ISSUE WE HAD WAS THAT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE STREETS AND THE DRAINAGE WAS NOT SET UP APPROPRIATELY. IT COST NEXT DOOR FLOODING AND THEY WERE NOT BUILT QUITE RIGHT. WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO VERIFY THAT THE INLETS ARE GOING TO BE WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE, AND IF THAT IS CORRECT BEFORE WE TAKE ON MORE?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN FOR ACCEPTANCE ASIDE FROM THE DOCUMENTATION. THERE NEEDS TO BE SIGNED OFF NOT ONLY FROM THE ENGINEER OF RECORD BUT THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION AND TEAM INCLUDING ANY OTHER TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC WORKS SUCH AS STREETS, UTILITIES. THEY WILL TYPICALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PUNCH LIST ITEMS THAT COMPARE ANY DEFICIENCIES THAT ARE COMPARED AGAINST THE PLAN SETS. WHEN THAT COMES TO FRUITION, THEY WILL PREPARE A PUNCH LIST ITEM AND MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ADDRESSED . THEY WILL ALSO SIGN OFF FROM THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, AS WELL. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CHECKS AND BALANCES. THE LAST CHECKLIST WAS WHAT COUNSEL WANTED TO SEE THAT WAS MATERIALIZED BY THE TEAM . IT HAS BEEN INCLUDED SINCE ONE OF THE LAST INFRASTRUCTURE ACCEPTANCES. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. AS YOU SEE MORE AND MORE OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCEPTANCES FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU WILL SEE ADDITIONAL CHECKS AND BALANCES OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE FROM THE FIELD. IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAN SETS AND MAKING SURE IT IS DESIGNED NOT ONLY THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS BUT ALSO AS THEY ARE DESIGNED AND BUILT. AT TIMES WE WILL SEE DEFICIENCIES LIKE A STREET LIGHT THAT IS NOT FAIR - NOT QUITE THERE OR IN THE DESIGN PACKET BUT WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE STREETLIGHT IS INSTALLED. THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES INCLUDING ANYTHING FROM DRAINAGES TO STREETS TO WATER AND WASTEWATER. THAT IS THE TYPICAL PROCESS. IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFICS, WE WILL ADDRESS THROWS THROUGH COUNSEL OR EVEN THE TEAM. I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES

THE GENERALIZED PROCESS. >> YES, I NEEDED A REFRESHER.

AND I KNOW IT IS MORE IN-DEPTH TODAY THAN JUST A FEW YEARS

AGO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. .

[9.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-327 authorizing participation with the latest global opioid settlement with Kroger, approving settlement participation form submission to the Attorney General's office, and authorizing the City Manager to execute all related documents. (Legal) ]

>> 7-0 AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION WITH THE LATEST

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GLOBAL OPIOID SETTLEMENT WITH KROGER , APPROVING SETTLEMENT PARTICIPATION FORM SUBMISSION TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL RELATED DOCUMENTS. I ASKED THIS TO BE POLLED. AS I UNDERSTAND IT , THIS SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT WITH KROGER.

>> THERE IS A LIST OF THE AUTHORIZED USES THAT YOU CAN

USE THE MONEY FOR. >> SINCE THERE IS NO KROGER

AROUND HERE. >> ANYBODY THAT WAS IMPACTED THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A CITIZEN OF HUTTO THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO A KROGER. IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE A CITIZEN FROM SUING , BUT THE CITY FROM TAKING THAT ON.

>> THE REASON I CANNOT VOTE FOR IT IS BECAUSE IT IS ALMOST LIKE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN WRONGED BY A COMPANY . IF YOU FILL OUT A FORM, YOU CAN ALSO GET PAID. I'M JUST NOT WANTING TO DO THAT. IF WE HAVE KROGER OR IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. THEY COULD JUST COME FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT. WHILE IT IS 15% OF WHATEVER THE NUMBERS WERE , THEY COULD COME BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITY. BY THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU SUE A COMPANY, BUT IF YOU DO IT FOR MONEY. ALL THEY DO IS RAISE THE PRICES FOR EVERYBODY. I PERSONALLY AM QUESTIONING .

>> THE REASON WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NOTIFIED US THE GREAT PARTICIPATED IN PREVIOUS OPIOID SETTLEMENTS. WE WERE ENTITLED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ONE TOO.

>> WE ALSO DID WALGREENS AND WALMART . IT IS JUST PERSONAL.

>> FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY THIS IS RELEVANT TO TO A FEDERAL LAWSUIT THAT OCCURRED, GENERALLY SPEAKING OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO OPIOID.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIZENS OF HUTTO THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS THAT PERHAPS WENT TO A KROGER 10 YEARS AGO IN HOUSTON OR OTHER PLACES. THEY COULD STILL GET SUPPORT WHICH IS WHY IT IS A FEDERAL LEVEL CASE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED. IT MAKES SENSE AS YOU SAY , THE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP REGARDLESS IF YOU VOTE FOR IT OR NOT. THE SETTLEMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE GET THE MONEY.

THERE ARE CITIZENS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AFFECTED THAT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THEM IN OUR CITY AS WELL.

>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. THE SETTLEMENT IS ALREADY A DONE DEAL BUT IF WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. IF WE DO NOT OR TO PARTICIPATE, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. THEY HAVE CALCULATED THE PERCENTAGE THAT

HUTTO WOULD GET . >> THANK YOU.

>> AND MORE MONEY WOULD GO TO THE CITY THAT HAVE A KROGER AND

PEOPLE IMPACTED. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION. >> SECOND..

>> ANY DISCUSSION?

[9.9. Consideration and possible action on acceptance of the November 2024 financial report. (Alberta Barrett) ]

>> THIS MOTION PASSES, 6-1 >> FOR THE RECORD, ALBERTA

BARRETT . >> WE WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SALES TAX IS DOWN COMPARED TO BUDGET. IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT? IF IT IS NOTHING CONCERNING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS ABOUT $100,000 OFF.

>> YES, WE ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I DO NOT THINK THAT I'M

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TOO ALARMED BY IT. WHEN THE FEBRUARY HITS, IT IS GOING TO BE THE OVERALL LARGE FOR THE YEAR AMOUNT. THAT PICKS UP ALL OF THE TAXPAYERS IN YOUR MONTHLY, QUARTERLY AND OF COURSE YOUR ANNUAL BUSINESSES. AFTER FEBRUARY COMES IN , I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA. IF WE ARE WAY OFF OR IF THAT IS NOT GOING TO MEET OUR BUDGET, WE CAN AMEND IT IN

MIDYEAR. >> TO YOU, THANK YOU. WE DO NOT

NEED TO ACT ON THAT. >> IT IS JUST FOR INFORMATION.

[10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-325 approving the Kirk Tract Development Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Nason Garett Hengst, Trustee of the Hengst Family Trust, related to the development of a single-family residential community and commercial tract. (Sara Cervantes) ]

>> NUMBER 10, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVING THE TRACT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE

HENGST FAMILY TRUST. >> AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS APPROVING THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC UP THERE, THERE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THE MIDDLE IS WHERE THE HIGHWAY IS GOING TO BE IN A COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEVELOPER TO GIVE YOU A SHORT PRESENTATION. AS A REMINDER THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FLOATING AROUND SINCE BEFORE MY 10 YEAR. I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN AT LEAST TWO AND HALF YEARS IF NOT LONGER. LET ME HAVE THE DEVELOPER, WITH THE SLIDESHOW.

>> A GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME FOR BEING HERE.

I AM RYAN QUINN, ONE OF THE ENGINEERS AND I REPRESENT MY CLIENT WHO IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AT THE MOMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY NOT SINCE INCEPTION. THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEFORE BUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT . WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE AGREEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S SOUTH SIDE OF HUTTO. IT IS NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO 1660. IT IS ALSO WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 24 AND IT IS IN THE CITY'S WASTEWATER CCN . ALONG OUR DUE DILIGENCE WE APPLIED FOR THE CITY AND WE RECEIVED WORD BACK THAT STATED WE COULD RECEIVE SERVICE THROUGH THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR. ONCE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND ULTIMATELY THE SALTWATER FACILITY AND WE ALSO WERE ASKED TO BUILD A 15 FEET FROM THE PROJECT FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH PART OF THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT ALSO CURRENTLY SITS IN JONAH'S WATER . WE DID APPEAL TO THEM FOR SERVICE AT THE EDGE OF THEIR BOUNDARIES. BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE AREA IT WAS COST PROHIBITIVE TO RECEIVE SERVICES FROM THEM. WE APPLIED FOR SERVICE FROM THE CITY AND RECEIVED WORD BACK THAT THE CITY COULD PROVIDE WATER THROUGH 1660. THERE IS ALSO A PLANNED 16 INCH WATER LINE TO THE END OF THE CCN . WE WOULD TAP INTO THAT WITH A 12 INCH LINE AS IT IS CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATING IT. WE WOULD EXTEND THAT 3/10 OF A MILE FOR THE TRACT. THAT WATER LINE WOULD BE IN A TEXTILE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS NOTED. JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION, YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTH EAST LOOP CUTS THROUGH THE TRACT . WE HAVE ALSO ADDED A PARCEL TO THE EAST SIDE TO CONNECT US TO COUNTY ROAD 134 TO PROVIDE ACCESS. THE REMAINING TRACK ON 66 ACRES WHICH WE ARE PLANNING 272 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THAT WILL BE ALSO FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACCESS WILL BE TAKEN OFF OF 1660. ULTIMATELY, THE FRONTAGE ROADS FOR THE SOUTH EAST LOOP.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO AND TO DISCUSS ACCESS AND

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WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF FORMING A TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT. THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL NECESSARY MITIGATIONS ARE MADE. JUST A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN REQUESTING ANNEXATION FROM THE CITY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF HUTTO. THE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT WOULD BE SINGLE-FAMILY ON THE NORTH SIDE. COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTH, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR UTILITY SERVICE ONCE THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN COMPLETED TO SERVE THE PROJECT. WE ARE ASKING FOR COST SHARING ON THE UP SHARING OF THE WATER LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES A - AN EIGHT INCH LINE AND NECESSITATES IT. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CREDITS ON TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS. WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE AND WE ARE FORMING AN TIA. ANY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE DEDICATED FOR THAT TO BE OFFSET FOR THE IMPACT FEES. WE ARE ASKING THE PUMP AND HALL BE ALLOWED AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT IN THE EVENT THAT THE INTERCEPTOR IS NOT COMPLETE BY THE TIME TO DEVELOP HAS BEEN BUILT. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE CASE. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IN THE EVENT, THAT IT IS NEEDED. WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR SUPPORT IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED AN EASEMENT TO EXTEND THE WATER LINE . WE PLAN TO BE IN THIS CONTRACT AS I MENTIONED. BUT IN THE EVENT, WE WOULD YOU SUPPORT US IN OBTAINING THAT. A COUPLE OF NOTES ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THE LOTS WILL BE 50 BY 120 , THERE WILL BE SEVEN DISTINCT DESIGN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ASKING THE GARAGE WITH BE INCREASED BY 5% FROM WHAT THE CURRENT MEASUREMENTS ALLOW FOR. A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, AS WE SEE IT , OBVIOUSLY THE EXTENSION OF PUBLIC UTILITY IS IMPORTANT. WE ARE GLAD TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT TO BRING IT THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS NO REQUESTED ON THIS PROJECT WERE ANY FINANCING MECHANISM. WE ARE FOR THAT AFFORDABILITY WILL BE MAINTAINED AT A HIGHER LEVEL. WE WILL BE COMPLETING THE TIA AND CONDUCTING ANY TYPE OF MEDICATIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS PART OF THIS. HOPEFULLY, IT DOES NOT BURDEN ANY OF THE EXISTING ROADWAYS. WHERE ASKING FOR LAND TO SUPPORT AND DEDICATED LAND TO SUPPORT THE SOUTH EAST LOOP .

OBVIOUSLY IT IS INCREASING THE CITY TAX BASE FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SINGLE-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL. WE WILL BE PAYING IMPACT FEES AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY. AND IF YOU BEEN TO THIS AREA, I AM SURE YOU ARE FAMILIAR THAT IT IS FLAT FARMLAND. THERE IS A LARGE LOCALIZED FLOODPLAIN THAT IS NOT FEMA . BUT IT RUNS NORTH OF THE TRACT AND THREW IT TO THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE EAST OF OUR PROJECT. WE WILL BE CAPTURING ALL OF THAT AND REROUTING IT THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION JUST AS PART OF OUR WORK WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY BENEFIT . I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? >> MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE WATER. WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SCARCITY OF WATER IN THIS AREA. WE REALIZE WHY JONAH IS RELUCTANT BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUT THEY ARE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH GETTING CAPACITY. IF I REMEMBER, AS A COUNSEL ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CCN WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT AS A SECOND DECISION AND FOCUS ON THE FIRST THAT ARE IN THERE. YOU SAID YOU HAD AN SCR THAT WAS DONE A WHILE AGO. HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT DONE?

>> THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS CONTEMPLATED.

>> THE WATER IS WHAT SPURRED THAT DISCUSSION. WHEN I MET WITH STAFF AND MATT SAID THAT THEY JUST DID THAT. WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE WATER, PERHAPS IT WAS THIS

SUMMER. >> I CAN LOOK UP THE DATE FOR

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SURE. >> I THINK IT IS IN THE VA -- DA . WE HAVE APPLIED FOR DECERTIFICATION FROM JONAH AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ADJOURN TO THE CITIES CCN.

>> WAS AT 300, OR 333? >> 333.

>> HAS JONAH RESPONDED TO THAT REQUEST?

>> YES . BUT OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS WITH THEIR SUGGESTION.

>> HOW FAR IS THIS PROPERTY AWAY FROM THE CCN CONNECTION?

>> THE CLOSEST LINE, I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEY CCN IN BOUNDARY IS BUT HOW FOR WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND.

>> YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULD PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TO CONNECT. IN ORDER TO GET TO YOUR PROPERTY.

>> OUR WATER IS CCN IT DOES RUN ALONG THE SOUTH PART OF THE

TRACT, THE SMALLER SECTION. >> WE CAN SEE THAT IN EXHIBIT E. THE SOUTH PART IS PART OF OUR CCN AND THERE IS A PARCEL IN BETWEEN THE TRACT AND THE NEXT PARCEL TO THE LEFT. THAT ONE PARCEL OVER IS CONSIDERED WITHIN OUR PARCEL. IT BORDERS

ON THE SELL SIDE. >> I GUESS AS FAR AS THE HIGHWAY , THIS IS PHASE TWO, CORRECT? IS THIS PART OF PHASE TWO? IS THIS GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND LEVEL, OR IS THIS ELEVATED? THE FUTURE WOULD BE ELEVATED.

>> HONESTLY, I AM NOT SURE. WE ARE CONNECTED TO FRONTAGE ROADS

. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS , VISUALLY HOW IT WOULD WORK WITH SCHEMATICS WITH ENTRY POINTS INTO THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL.

>> I BELIEVE THERE ARE GOING TO BE FRONTAGE ROADS ON EITHER

SIDE. >> I THINK WHAT THEY ARE BUILDING IS THE SAME THEY HAVE ON EITHER END. IT IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE ONE FRONTAGE ROAD FOR AN ELEVATED HIGHWAY, ASSUMING THEY GET THERE. WE'LL GO FROM ONE ROAD AND A DIVIDER ROAD. WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT IS IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE 20 YEARS BRIEF TEST BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT.

>> SOMETIMES I ASK THESE QUESTIONS . IF THIS LAND AND IF WE SAY NO TO THIS , WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THIS LAND? WHAT IS

YOUR PLAN B ? >> IT IS GOING TO SET.

>> THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES JONAH HAS WATER CAPACITY. I PERSONALLY FEEL OBLIGATED THAT I DO NOT WANT HOMES THAT AN AREA THAT CANNOT HANDLE IT. IF I VOTE YES FOR IT BECAUSE THEY WILL DO A PACKAGE PLAN. BUT WHEN THEY CANNOT GET WATER I LOOK AT IT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF I SAY NO TO THIS. THERE IS NO WATER UNLESS YOU DIG A WELL . SO IT CHANGES MY OUTLOOK. HOW IMPORTANT -- WATER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY. WE CAN PRINT MORE MONEY.

YESTERDAY YOU HEARD ABOUT THE GROWTH SUMMIT AND ONE YEAR AGO WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS PLENTY OF WATER. BUT YESTERDAY THAT WATER IS A BIG DEAL. WE HAVE AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ABOUT SOME WATER STUFF. IT IS NOT EXACTLY GOING REAL WELL FOR US. WITH ALL THAT SAID, YOU ARE ASKING FOR SOME TRAFFIC FEE, CREDITS AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR SOME UPSIZE REIMBURSEMENTS. HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT TO YOU? IS WATER MORE IMPORTANT? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE WATER , YOU GET A DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE COUNSEL SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU CREDITS ON ANYTHING. YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FULL FREIGHT. IF WE GIVE YOU WATER, WE ARE TAKING WATER FROM SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE CITY TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE AND JOIN THE CITY. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS THE

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MOST POLITICALLY POPULAR THING. HOW IMPORTANT ARE FEE CREDITS? DO YOU WANT TO JUST WALK AWAY AND PAY THE IMPROVEMENTS AND PAY FOR THE 18 INCH LINE AND DO ANYTHING TO GET WATER OR IS

THAT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. >> WE ARE HAPPY TO NEGOTIATE. I AM NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CLIENT. BUT I THINK WE COULD SPEAK TO THE STAFF AT LENGTH ABOUT THESE ITEMS. THIS CAN BE FAIR IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY IMPROVED. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT COMPLETELY. WE MET WITH JONAH AND IT IS NOT COMING IN WITH ONE MONTH OR ONE YEAR. IT WAS $40 MILLION JUST TO GET WATER FROM 3349 AND 79 TO THIS TRACT.

>> WE ARE AT NEARLY $1 BILLION AND THAT ONLY COVERS FIVE

YEARS. >> WE ARE ALSO PAYING THE RESERVATION FEES THAT ARE BEEN ASKED TO PUT ON TO THE PROJECT.

WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THOSE AS WELL. I FEEL WE ARE HAPPY TO BE A PART OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH STAFF AND WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR.

>> I FEEL YOU CAME IN AND HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF IN A VERY PRODEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT WHERE NOT NECESSARILY ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. BUT SPECIFICALLY WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO GROW THE WATER CCN UNNECESSARILY. WE ARE LOOKING TO SERVE THE CCN THAT WE HAVE WE DO NOT WANT TO KICK YOU OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE BORED BEEN WORKING WITH US. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A BALANCE AND HOW THIS CAN WORK OUT.

>> THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAPPY TO PAY INTO THE RESERVATION. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR ABILITY TO SECURE MORE WATER AND THE FUNDS , IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIABLE.

>> I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. I BROUGHT THAT UP WITH THE WATER DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. DEVELOPERS ARE PUTTING MONEY ON THE TABLE AND HELPING THE CITY ACQUIRE FUTURE WATER RESOURCES WITH THE RESERVATION FEE. BECAUSE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR 2 1/2 YEARS ON THIS AGREEMENT , DEVELOPERS HAVE GIVEN THE SITE THE OPPORTUNITY. IN YOUR SITUATION, IT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION BUT YOU ARE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING FOR MULTIPLE YEARS ON THIS.

EVEN THOUGH WATER WAS NOT PART OF THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED. BUT AS YOU HAVE PROGRESSED, IT HAS BECOME A CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATED AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. IT IS A FACTOR AND WE WANT TO TAKE CARE WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS AND THE PEOPLE AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO COME INSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS. WE ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THINGS LIKE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. I APPRECIATE THAT, WITH THE WATER RESERVATION FEES . AS FAR AS THE FEE CREDITS , TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. CURRENTLY IT IS IN THE ET J AND YOU ARE WILLING TO ANNEX IN. WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD THAT INCLUDE , SO 1660 IS STATE ROAD . 134 IS A COUNTY ROAD SO WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE OR WOULD THAT GO INTO OUR POOL OF MONEY WITH QUADRANTS OF HOW WE RECENTLY DID OUR FEES? IS THAT A QUESTION FOR YOU SARAH?

>> FOR IMPROVEMENTS ARE YOU REFERENCING ANY WINDING ROADS ?

>> HOW WOULD THAT ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE CITY OF HUTTO RESIDENTS . IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AS OTHER

THINGS COME UP. >> THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS ONGOING AND WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE GOING IN TO BE EFFICIENT FOR THE CAPACITY OF WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE ENGINEERS. THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WOULD OUTLINE ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. THAT COULD BE AN EXPANSION OF ADDING MEDIANS AND LANES BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE AT THIS POINT. IF THE DA GOES THROUGH AND THAT

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WOULD BE CITY OF HUTTO CITIZENS AND THEY BENEFITING TO THAT EXTENT. WE ALSO HAVE A COMMERCIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE

THAT WOULD ALSO BE SALES TAX. >> I AM JUST CURIOUS BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING IMPROVEMENTS.

JUST VISUALLY SEEING IT ON THE MAP, WE DO NOT SEE IT YET . AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS , THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE

PUT IN WOULD BENEFIT >> I ALSO WANTED TO OFFER THIS DATE, WHICH WAS FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. WE WERE STILL NAVIGATING WHAT OUR POLICY WAS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF WATER.

I DID SPEAK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER BEFORE HE LEFT FOR THE HOLIDAY. WE HAVE A POOL OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THIS TYPE OF GRAY AREA WITH THE S CR. THEY PUT IN GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO NEGOTIATE. POLICIES HAVE CHANGED AND DIRECTIVES HAVE CHANGED. FOR YOU, AS A COUNSEL IS MAKING SURE THAT THE STAFF HAVE THE DIRECTION AND THE CUTOFF DATES FOR THE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE KNOW WHEN TO SWITCH LANES AND DIVERT OUR COURSE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AND EVALUATING.

>> I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION WITH AMBERLEY KOLAR. IF WE WANTED TO APPROVE THOSE ROADS?

>> YES AND NO. IF YOU AS A COUNSEL AND GUIDED BY THE CITY ENGINEER THAT WE WANT THESE ROADS IMPROVED, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THE TIA WILL INDICATE TO US WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED ON THE ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING. THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT. I'VE BEEN A PART OF CERTAIN DOCUMENTS WHERE WE REQUIRE EXPANSIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE TIA BUT THIS ONE HAS A TIA THAT IS PENDING. THAT IS THE ROUTE THAT WE ARE GOING AND THE MAJORITY STEMMED FROM SOME TYPE OF STUDY. THAT IS WHY THIS ANALYSIS IS ONGOING.

>> WOULD IT BE , OR IS IT BETTER FOR THE TIA TO COME BACK BEFORE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY ARE RECOMMENDING AND ADD THAT INTO

THIS? >> NOT NECESSARILY. I AM NOT SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OR RESULTS WILL CHANGE THE CONVERSATION AND DECISION-MAKING FOR YOU AS A COUNSEL ON THE EXPANSION OF THE WATER CCN. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR CREDITS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS . IT COULD CHANGE THE CONVERSATION TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. WE ARE LOOKING AT NOT ALLOWING CERTAIN CREDITS FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. I THINK THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY TO WORK THOSE CREDITS ON THE BACK AND WITH THE TIA BUT THAT IS A POLICY DECISION THAT YOU WILL HALF TO MAKE IT. I CANNOT SPEAK TO HOW FAR THE TIA OUT IS. THAT IS A DIRECTOR QUESTION.

>> THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS THAT WE WILL WORK IT OUT ON THE BACK END. WHEREAS WE HAVE EVERYTHING BUTTONED UP NOW BUT WE DO NOT

HAVE THE BACK END . >> DEFINITELY, AND I CAN SEE THE CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES. IF WE WANT THEM TO AGREE TO NO CREDITS AT ALL AND THE TIA COMES BACK AND HAS AN ABSORBENT AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS. IF WE GO TO THE DEVELOPER OR THEY ACCEPT THAT WE WILL NOT CREDIT ANY OF THOSE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MINIMAL. I CAN SEE WHERE THE NEGOTIATION CHESS PIECES ARE NOT EXISTED ON THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE IN THERE FOR US TO LOOK AT. IF THAT IS A COUNSEL PREFERENCE, I CAN REACH OUT TO MATT AND VERIFY WHEN THE TA IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED.

>> JUST A BALLPARK FOR THAT. >> IF THE TA IS NOT APPROVED .

>> COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

>> IF THE TIA IS NOT APPROVED OR AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE ENGINEERING, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN CANNOT BE APPROVED AND THAT THE FINAL PLAT CAN ALSO NOT TO BE APPROVED. THIS IS A GRAIN IN PRINCIPLE BUT IF THE CITY ENGINEER HAS FULL AUTONOMY BASED ON WHAT WE PRESENT TO MAKE SURE THE NECESSARY MEDICATIONS FOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MET.

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THIS WOULD BASED ON THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FROM THIS. HIS WHY NOT JUST WAIT FOR THE TIA?

>> ARE YOU ASKING HIM? >> WHY NOT WAIT?

>> YES. THAT -- I DO NOT WANT TO PUT THE ENGINEER IN A DIFFICULT SPOT. WHY NOT JUST WAIT AND GET THAT INFORMATION

AND BRING THIS BACK? >> IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME TO PROCEED WITH THE TIA IF WE DID NOT HAVE A GOOD-FAITH UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT COULD BE SERVED BY THE CITY

FROM UTILITY STANDPOINT. >> YOU WOULD NOT DESIGN THE ROADS AND PAY THE MONEY TO DO THAT IF YOU CANNOT EVEN GET THE WATER APPROVED BECAUSE YOU KNOW PROJECT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT FROM CREDITS, THE TIA WOULD SAY THEY NEED TO DO THESE THINGS.

AND MATT WOULD COME IN AND SAY OKAY. THIS IS AN UPSIDE FOR YOU AND WE WILL GIVE YOU THE PROJECT IS $1 MILLION BUT WE WOULD GIVE $1 MILLION OF CREDIT TO THE ROAD IMPACT FEE. THEY ARE STILL GOING TO PAY THE FULL FEE BUT THEY WOULD GET A CREDIT FOR THE PERCENTAGE. THE TIA IS UNDER THE AMOUNT OF THE FEE AND THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE GOING TO THE CITY FUND. THAT WOULD IMPROVE OTHER ROADS IN THE CITY, THAT IS THE PROCESS WE HAVE FOLLOWED. WE ARE GETTING HUNG UP ON SOME SOMATIC THAT DID NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THE TYPICAL BUSINESS OF HOW WE DO

THINGS IN THE CITY. >> I THINK IT IS A VERY VALID

QUESTION. >> WE HAVE NEVER SAID THAT BEFORE YOU DO WATER, YOU NEED TO DO A FULL BUILDOUT OF YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.

>> IT IS MY TURN TO TALK. I HAD MY SECOND QUESTION WHICH WAS WHEN THE DIRECTOR FOR WATER , FROM ENGINEERING FROM THE CITY.

AND THEY SAY HOW MUCH THEY INCLUDED FOR WATER INSIDE OUR CCN THAT IS GOING TO BE USED. WE HAD A PERCENTAGE THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN. THIS HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN FEBRUARY. WHERE WAS THIS SLOTTED IN THAT MAP? IF IT WAS ALREADY ACCUMULATED AS BEING IN OUR WATER CCN AS FAR AS MATT WAS CONCERNED WHEN THEY SHARE THE DATA TWO WEEKS AGO. GETTING HUNG UP NOT BEING IN OUR CCN IS NOW BECAUSE THE DATA THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT HAD IT IN OUR CCN. THAT IS THE QUESTION I

WANT ANSWERED. >> DID YOU SAVE THE PAPERWORK

FROM LAST MEETING? >> THEY DID NOT BREAK IT DOWN.

>> OUR CCN, AND THEY HAD FUTURE CCN AND THAT THE FUTURE FUTURE

CCN. THEY HAD EVERYTHING. >> THEY JUST GIVE US A TOTAL

NUMBER. >> DID YOU SAVE THE PAPERWORK? I HAVE A COPY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY

THE IMPROVING AGREEMENT. >> SECOND..

>> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR WITH THIS? IN ALL RESPECT I

WOULD JUST UNDERSTAND. >> MAKING A MOTION TO DENY.

>> TO BE QUITE HONEST WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. I HAVE VOTED TO ANNEX PLACES IN THAT BRINGS RESIDENTIAL WHEN THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PACKAGE PLAN POSSIBILITY. THERE WAS ANOTHER TRACT THAT WAS ON 685 AND I WAS WOUND UP ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET WATER FROM THAT ENTITY. AND I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE OUR WATER TO THEM. IT IS NOT LIKE I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH YOU GUYS OR RESIDENTIAL. BUT NOBODY IN HUTTO IS ASKING FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL. OUR SCHOOLS ARE STRAPPED, THE ROADS ARE STRAPPED. UTILITIES ARE AT FULL CAPACITY AND WE ARE RAISING RATES EVERYWHERE. IF I DO NOT HAVE TO PERSONALLY BOW TO BRING MORE HOMES INTO THE CITY. AND THERE IS NO ILL EFFECTS FOR THAT DECISION, IT IS EASY FOR ME. IF YOU DO NOT VOTE YES, WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A PACKAGE PLAN AND WE ARE COMING WITH YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. TO BE QUITE HONEST IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

IT IS REALLY OUT OF YOUR CONTROL AND WHEN WE COME BACK OUT TONIGHT. THIS COULD BE PREMATURE TO EVEN VOTE. TONIGHT WE COULD HAVE BAD NEWS. AGAIN, WITH US GETTING WATER HAS NOT BEEN EASY BUT THAT IS JUST ME. OTHER PEOPLE ARE BIG ABOUT

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GROWTH. SOMETIMES WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT LATER.

>> FOR ME, THE REASON I AM HESITANT ON THIS IS TO THE POINT OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM . WE JUST GOT DONE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO IMPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAD TO SAY WHILE BACK. ALL AT THE SAME TIME, YOU COULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE US EARLIER.

UNDERSTANDING THAT WE JUST CAME UP WITH THAT LITERALLY ON THE LAST MEETING. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT AS A COUNSEL? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY THAT WE DID THIS. I GET TO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS WILLING TO DO THIS SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ON THE BURDEN. WE JUST CAME TO THIS AGREEMENT LAST MEETING. THAT IS WHY I WOULD BE AT LEAST WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL

WE GET THE TIA STUDY. >> I AM STRUGGLING WITH HOW THE TIA WOULD HELP WITH THE WATER SUPPLY.

>> THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME TIME TO MUNCH ON THIS BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT NOT PROVIDING OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN. I AM SAYING THE TIA WOULD GIVE US MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND. CAN WE ACTUALLY DO THIS AND WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT IS SMART OR WITH THIS OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO OTHER DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND SAYING IT. WE WILL DO X AND Y AND Z OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN TO WE EVEN GOING TO ABIDE BY THE POLICY THAT WE JUST MADE LAST

MEETING. >> I SHARE THE CONCERNS ON THE WATER BUT LET ME ASK A DIFFERENT ANGLE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I HAVE SEEN A LOT THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING THE CURRENT SITUATION ON THE GROUND AND NOT ALWAYS THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE THE SOUTHEAST LOOP IS COMING IN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING COMMITMENTS TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND WE DO NOT GET A TIA THAT ADDRESSES IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE TEMPORARY CONNECTION TO 1660. THE COUNTY WILL BUILD A SOUTH LOOP AND WE ARE TOLD BY THE COUNTY THAT THIS IS ANNEXED IN THE CITY . YOU HAVE TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY TO CONNECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS SOMEHOW ADDRESSED AND THE TIA IS GOING TO COVER THAT EVENTUALITY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMING

FORWARD. >> THE REQUIREMENT FOR DRIVEWAY

CONNECTIONS . >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE TIA IS DONE, THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS DONE REQUIRING THE TIA TO ADDRESS ANYTHING FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS TO THE SOUTHEAST LOOP THAT DOES NOT FALL ON THE CITY. NOT TO LET THE COUNTY WHAT THE COUNTY DOES WHICH IS GREAT.

>> I HOPE THAT IS NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THERE IS FRONTAGE. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD THE TIA WOULD SAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS. AND YOU WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON 1660 AND ONE AND 38 TO THE WEST . YOU WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT AND QUITE HONESTLY WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT IN 1660 AND 79 OR 1660 AND CARL STERN AND 685. YOUR PEOPLE HAVE TO GO SHOPPING SOMEWHERE. ALL OF THE SHOPPING IS ALL THE WAY UP 1660 TO 79 DOWN. EVERY HOUSE YOU ADD IN ON THE FAR EAST IS INCREASING THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON 685 AND 130. WHAT'S THE IMPACT AND WE HAD TO PAY ON THAT IS

FOR THE ENGINEERS. >> THE TIA WILL ADDRESS ALL OF

THOSE ITEMS. >> IF YOU SAY --

>> IF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP WAS ON THE GROUND, THERE IS A HUGE ROAD THAT WOULD REMEDY MORE TRAFFIC THAN THIS SUBDIVISION.

THAT WAS MY ONLY POINT. >> THE INITIAL PHASE OF THIS AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY'S

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SCHEDULE WILL TIE INTO 1660 AND TO 134. THESE ARE ALL NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED . WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SAFE AND MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE IMPACTED.

>> THE COUNTY HAS MADE A LOT OF HEADWIND. IF YOU ASK THE PEOPLE THAT USE 138 AND 130, IT STACKS UP ALMOST BEYOND THE INTERSECTION. THE COUNTY IS ONLY BUILDING A TWO LANE ROAD WITH A TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT IS THREE LANES BUT ONE EACH WAY. I DO NOT EVEN KNOW THAT WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND. EVEN WHEN THEY BUILD THAT, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED THE OTHER SIDE WHICH WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BUILD THE FIRST FRONTAGE ROAD. FOR 20 OR 25 YEARS FROM HAVING SOME REAL IMPACT. AGAIN THE 300 HOMES, IS THAT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE? IN MY MIND, NO. BUT 300 HERE AND 1000 OVER HERE BEFORE LONG, YOU ARE TALKING

REAL NUMBERS. >> THE MAYOR DID NOT HAVE THE

DATA, DO YOU HAVE IT? >> I DO NOT. I WOULD HAVE TO GET THE CITY ENGINEER BUT WHAT A GREAT QUESTION.

>> I CANNOT VOTE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT THAT DATA.

>> WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL QUESTION?

>> I FOUND IT. >> WHAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL

QUESTION? >> WAS THIS TRACT OF LAND , WE HAD OUR ORIGINAL ANALYSIS FROM THAT FOR THE LAST MEETING WAS THIS CONSIDERED FOR THE FUTURE ? WHERE WAS THIS TRACT OF LAND?

>> FOR ME, WHILE I RESPECT EVERYBODY. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THEY ARE HESITANT TO APPROVE THIS. DO YOU KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE RESERVATION FEES TO GET WATER SERVICE?

>> THE RESERVATION ARE $70 TIMES 333. THAT IS FOR THE INITIAL. FOR THE RESERVATION. $24,000 AND AT THE RENEWAL OF THAT AGREEMENT, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT BEEN CONNECTED AT THE ONE-YEAR MARKET. THEY WOULD PAY $70 AGAIN.

>> WITHIN THE AGREEMENT WITHIN THE WATER RESERVATION AGREEMENT , I GUESS THE CONTRACT IS THREE YEARS. AFTER THREE YEARS IF THEY ARE NOT UTILIZED, THEY GO BACK ONLINE TO BE AVAILABLE FOR

OTHERS. >> CORRECT.

>> CAN WE GET SOME ORDER? >> I AM SORRY.

>> THIS DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PAY $23,000 PER YEAR IN ORDER TO RESERVE WATER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HOUSES ON THIS LAND IN ONE YEAR. THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE HOUSES ON THIS LAND IN TWO YEARS. IF THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UTILIZE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THESE ONLINE BY THE THIRD YEAR. IT IS LIKE USE IT OR USE IT. THE CITY IS GOING TO GET AT LEAST $46,000 IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO ACQUIRE FUTURE WATER RESOURCES.

IN ORDER FOR US TO SERVE THEM AND THE HOMES WILL BE PUT ONLINE AND PAY INTO THE UTILITY FUND TO CREATE SUSTAINABILITY .

I AM NOT QUITE SURE BUT I GET IT THAT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF DRAWING A HARD LINE ON EXPANDING OUR CCN. WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS AND ALSO DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PAYING THIS WATER RESERVATION FEE. IT WILL BE

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PARTICIPATING OTHERWISE, THIS CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ON ITS OWN 100%. AND THAT WOULD MEAN THE RATE USERS AND WHO WE SERVICE, THE WATER RESIDENTS OF HUTTO WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT FUTURE WATER USE. THEY ARE ALREADY KIND OF PAYING FOR THE PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON THAT PROPERTY. THEY ARE PUTTING SOME MONEY DOWN FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE ON PARTICIPATING IN OUR UTILITY FUND. I GET IT. WATER IS SCARCE. THE ISSUE IS INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT IS EXPENSIVE. DEVELOPERS LIKE THIS ONE COMING IN BEING WILLING TO RESERVE THE WATER FOR UP TO THREE YEARS AND PAYING $23,000 PER YEAR FOR UP TO THREE YEARS WOULD HELP OUR CURRENT WATER USERS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO TO ACQUIRE THAT FUTURE WATER. THAT IS JUST SOME INPUT FROM ME . I KNOW WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST COUNCIL MEETING AS A HARD STOP. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DANCING CORRECTLY AND NOT FREEZING. OH MY GOSH, I AM SCARED THAT THE CITY ENGINEER WAS UP HERE. WHENEVER HE EVEN SAID THAT IF HE PUTS IT IN, HE'S A MATH A NUMBERS PERSON. IF YOU WERE IN THE WORKS I THINK THAT WE ARE AT THIS POINT. PERHAPS IN FIVE YEARS, IT COULD GET DIFFICULT.

I DO NOT THINK THAT WE ARE THAT AT THAT POINT.

>> THIS IS JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT GET TO THAT WATER? IF THEY ARE RESERVING THE WATER FOR 3 YEARS AND THEY ARE DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PUTS A BURDEN ON PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT GET TO THAT WATER? THAT IS WHY WE DO THE LAST HARD-LINE.

>> WE WOULD REIMBURSE THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

>> IS THE WATER RESERVATION FEE IN QUESTION.

>> FOR THE WATER RESERVATION FEE FOR CITY OF HUTTO BECAUSE OUR CITY LIMITS AND BOUNDARIES ARE NOT COMPLETE. THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM TO GROW. WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT. THIS IS JUST AN AVENUE , A FINANCIAL AVENUE TO HELP PAY FOR THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT, REGARDLESS. WHETHER THEY ARE A PLAYER OR NOT, WE ARE GOING TO NEED THAT MONEY. IT IS ONLY GOING TO GO UP MORE AND MORE AS THE YEARS GO BY. RIGHT? SO WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT EVEN IF THIS DOES NOT GET PAST WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. THE CURRENT WATER USERS IN THE WATER CCN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FUTURE WATER. THIS IS AN OUTSIDE PLAYER, I GET IT. BUT AT LEAST THEY WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN IT. YES, THEY WILL GET SERVICE. BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE FINANCIALLY HELPING TO ACQUIRE THAT.

>> THE PLACE WITH THAT LOGIC FALLS APART IS THAT THEY WILL NEED WATER. THEY WILL NEED THIS WATER AND MORE WATER FOR THIS DEVELOPER. WE NEED WATER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE GRID ALREADY.

THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH THIS TODAY IS THAT WE DID DRAW A LINE. IF YOU WALKED INTO OUR OFFICES THIS PAST WEEK AND ASKED FOR A CCR. WE DO NOT DO THAT BECAUSE WE CHANGED OUR POLICY. THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU CAME IN 10 MONTHS AGO AND YOU BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH FOR 10 MONTHS. I AM STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN SAY NO. WE CAN SAY NO. BUT ALSO THAT IS PART OF MY CONSIDERATION. YOU BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH FOR 10 MONTHS. WE TOLD YOU SO I AM TRYING AND

STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

YOU FEEL TRAPPED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> YES, THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION. NOBODY'S GOING TO FEEL GREAT ABOUT TELLING HIM NO. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE DO

NOT TELL HIM NO. >> HERE IS MY QUESTION. THE STAFF THAT DID THAT SAID THAT YOU COULD HAVE THIS AND THE

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STAFF SAID THAT YOU COULD HAVE UP TO 2000 BECAUSE IT IS JUST MATH AND WE FIGURED IT OUT. WOULD YOU STILL FEEL OBLIGATED?

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE THING THAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK IS ASKING. WE NEED A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM OF WHAT ARE THE WATER COMMITMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND WHERE ARE THOSE IN THE PROCESS AND DO WE WANT TO REJECT SOME OF THOSE? STAFF HAS TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD BE SERVED BUT THAT IS NOT A COMMITMENT UNTIL WE AGREE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. IT IS NOT A COMMITMENT BUT I AM JUST SAYING. THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS AND NOT JUST WAIT FOR EACH TO COME IN.

>> MY ONE QUESTION BECAUSE MY OPINION IS WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT DENIAL VERSUS TABLING OR POSTPONING. IF WE DO NOT, IT GOES INTO SOME PROCESS WITH 60 DAYS TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANT. WHAT I NEED IS ANSWERS FROM STAFF OF WHERE THE WATER HAS ALREADY BEEN CALCULATED. IF IT IS ALREADY BEEN BASED ON WHAT WE ARE DECIDED ON OR APPROVED .

BUT WHAT I DO NOT IS THAT WAS IT ALREADY CALCULATED AS THE SCR AND MATT SAID THIS WAS AT SEPTEMBER . BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, THE MAYOR AND I WERE LOOKING AT IT. IT SHOWS THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CCN AND IT SHOWS SCR BUT IT IS DIFFICULT. I DO NOT WANT TO DENY AND CREATE SOME LONG PROCESS THAT WE JUST CREATED AGAIN OF THEM TO REDO THE APPLICATION OR WHATEVER. I CANNOT GIVE AN ANSWER BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE DIRECTOR ENGINEERING TONIGHT. I CANNOT DO IT. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I WANT TO VOTE FROM TONIGHT. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE FOR DENIAL? ARE THEY JUST PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA OR IF THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. I WANT TO VOTE NO ON DENIAL BUT WE ARE GOING TO TABLE IT FOR NOW.

>> FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT WE CAN BRING THIS BACK AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I WANT TO GO TO DOTTIE .

>> WE ARE NOT UNDER ANY TRIGGERS FROM A DEVELOPMENTAL STANDPOINT. BUT LET ME MENTION THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE REGULATION THAT IS IMPACTED THE TIME. AND UTILITY CONNECTIONS CAN BE IMPOSED ON PEOPLE AFTER. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE FOR UTILITY CONNECTIONS TO BE YOUR REGULATION POLICIES OR WHATEVER ONE WEEK AGO. WHEN YOU CHANGED , THOSE SHOULD BE APPLIED OR

CAN BE APPLIED. >> RETROACTIVE.

>> IT IS NOT RETROACTIVE. WHEN YOU CHANGE IT, THE UTILITY CONNECTION IN AN ORDINANCE OR POLICY . AND THIS PERSON COMES IN AND YOU WANT TO APPLY IT, YOU CAN APPLY IT. THEY HAVE NO

CLAIM. >> EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> COUNCILMAN DAN THORNTON SAID THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH FOR THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 2 1/2 YEARS UPWARDS OF TRYING TO WORK WITH IT. WE DID MAKE A DECISION AT THE LAST MEETING YOU. FOR ME, I HAVE A HARD TIME PULLING THE TRIGGER AND SAYING THAT WE MADE THE DECISION TWO WEEKS AGO. SO THAT IS NOT MY PERSONALITY OR HOW I FUNCTION. THAT IS ONE OF THE THEORIES I AM STRUGGLING WITH. THE OTHER AREA THAT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THESE IS NOT JUST A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. THERE IS A COMMERCIAL ASPECT.

FOR ME, IT KIND OF TIPS THE SCALE . MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE WE WILL GET COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SOME SALES TAX. I AM GUESSING THIS WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD

COMMERCIAL. >> I DO NOT THINK THERE IS BEEN ANY PLAN UP UNTIL THIS POINT. WE HAVE JUST BEEN WORKING ON THE DESIRE TO KEEP IT COMMERCIAL FOR THE CITY.

>> GAS STATIONS, RESTAURANTS. >> THERE ARE OTHER FAMILY

PLACES IN THE AREA. >> IF IT WAS PURELY RESIDENTIAL, I THINK I WOULD HAVE ONE THOUGHT. BUT IF THERE IS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL, THAT IS ANOTHER THOUGHT. ALSO AGREEING WITH COUNCILMEMBER RANDAL CLARK. MY PROPOSAL WAS

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GOING TO BE OFFER AN AMENDMENT. LET US POSTPONE THIS UNTIL JANUARY SO WE CAN GET THE ANSWERS BACK FROM CITY STAFF ON WHERE ARE THESE SCR'S? WE COULD GET THAT BECAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WANTING TO DENY IT TONIGHT BUT I DO NOT WANT TO PASS IT TONIGHT. I WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

>> YOU BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 2 YEARS. THAT IS NOT JUST THE WATERSIDE, RIGHT? THE CONCERN HERE IS WATER.

>> I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE WATER DISCUSSION CAME UP, IF IT WAS

MORE RECENT. >> THAT WAS FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE TURNAROUND TIME SO I WOULD

SAY JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. >> THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET WATER FROM JONAH. THE FRONT JANUARY, FEBRUARY WAS ONE OF JONAH SAID WAS LOOKING ELSEWHERE.

>> WE GOT AN MODIFICATION THAT WE MET WITH THEM . IT WAS INFEASIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

>> THAT WAS THE END OF 2022 ? >> THAT WAS THE END OF 2023. A

LITTLE OVER ONE YEAR. >> I KNOW DEVELOPERS AND KNOW WHAT HE IS OUT TRYING TO DEVELOP WITH WATER IS GOING TO BE EASY. IN THE BACK OF EVERYBODY'S MIND, YOU HAVE ANOTHER TIA. THERE IS A WATER ISSUE AND EVERY IN CENTRAL TEXAS IS STRUGGLING IN THE WEST, THE CENTRAL SO WE DO NOT WANT TO PULL THE RUG OUT. IF THIS IS DENIED, YOU CAN WALK AWAY. ANYBODY PAYING ATTENTION AT LEAST ON THE EAST SIDE OF I-35 WOULD SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE A BATTLE. TAYLOR HAS OTHER PROBLEMS, GEORGETOWN IS OUT OF WATER. WE ARE FIGHTING WITH PEOPLE . AND MY LAST QUESTION FOR STAFF , WE STILL IN WATER

RESTRICTION ? >> THAT IS THE QUESTION FROM

DIRECTOR CORONADO. YES. >> WE ARE IN WATER RESTRICTIONS IN DECEMBER. LAST YEAR I WANTED TO SAY WE WERE IN AND RESTRICTIONS UNTIL OCTOBER. IT IS INCREASING BECAUSE EVERY DAY WE HAVE THREE NEW FAMILIES MOVE IN ON AVERAGE INTO OUR CITY.

THESE ARE THE SAME SMALL WATERWAYS. I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH $64,000 WHY WE MAKE MORE HOMES COME IN. THE ROOT OF THIS IS NOT TO RUN OUT. I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN STAGE TWO IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE EVENTUALLY , MY H AWAY ONCE MY GRASS GREEN.

THEY WANT ME TO KEEP IT MANICURED. WE PEEPED TELLING PEOPLE TO PLANT TREES IN THE CITY. AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT. I DO NOT FEEL FOR YOU AS MUCH AS I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE IN HUTTO RIGHT NOW . THEY ARE ALREADY AT STAGE TWO.

>> WAS THE REASON THAT YOU BROUGHT UP -- IF YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY THAT WE WERE NOT ASKED FOR ANY FEE CREDITS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A PRICE TO WHERE YOU COULD SAY IF YOU DO NOT TO HAVE ANY FEES WAIVED? I COULD APPROVE THIS BECAUSE THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH OFFERING WATER.

>> YOU KNOW ME WELL AFTER FIVE YEARS. IF THEY TOLD YOU $40 MILLION, IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND THAT BALLPARK FOR ME. WE CANNOT GUARANTEE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WATER IN THREE YEARS. IT IS A LIE. WE HAVE A WATER LINE THAT WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE GALLONS WE CAN PUMP THROUGH. WE'RE STILL TESTING IT. WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO WORK A DEAL OUT AND BUILD IMPROVEMENTS 38 MILES AWAY TO PUSH THROUGH WATER THROUGH THE SAME LINE. AFTER THAT IN TWO YEARS, WE HAVE NO PLAN THAT ANYBODY COULD TELL ME WITH A STRAIGHT FACE WHAT IS GUARANTEED. EVERY TIME WE ADD SOMETHING ON, WE ARE JUST SHOWING A LITTLE BIT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE STRAW IS BUT I WOULD DO A MORATORIUM ON RESIDENTIAL IF WE COULD DO. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. WE ARE AT CAPACITY. I DO NOT HAVE ONE A SINGLE SCHOOLTEACHER TELLING ME THEY HAVE A EMPTY SCHOOL CHAIR. THEY ARE NOT COMING TO ME TOO ASKED TO BUILD MORE HOMES. IT IS NOT OUR TASK TO SOLVE THE HOUSING INDUSTRY. AND $40 MILLION WAS TOO HIGH FOR JONAH

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. WE HAD TO EXPAND THE WATER BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOING TO COST. BUT HOLY SMOKES, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FROM

THAT GRAPH FROM LAST WEEK. >> THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL

COMPONENT TO THIS? >> YES. IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE EDC 60%? IS THAT OUR AGREEMENT FOR SALES TAX?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.

>> THAT IS ANOTHER PROBLEM WE ARE WORKING THROUGH.

>> WE GET 40% OF THE TAX REVENUE THAT WE WOULD'VE

GOTTEN. >> THANK YOU. WE GET 40% , WE

GET 60%. >> LET ME OFFER ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION. EXHIBIT E SHOWS THE LINE THE DEVELOPER IS BUILDING WILL ESSENTIALLY TRACK OUR WATER ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARCEL. I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT WATER LINE FURTHER. THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN BORDER OF 1660 IS THAT THE CCN.

I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS WORTH EXPLORING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER "WE DO HAVE CUSTOMERS ON THAT SOUTHSIDE. I COULD TRY TO PULL UP A MAP BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW IT IS GOING TO PROJECT. THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE. PERHAPS IT IS AN OPTION WORTH CONSIDERING.

>> WHERE IS THE MIND? >> MOST ARE FURTHER'S MOUTH - FURTHER SOUTH AND FURTHER EAST. SPECTERS DEVELOPMENT GOING UP ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 1660. WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS IN

RELATION TO THAT? >> I WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

>> E TJ , I WONDER WHERE THEY ARE GETTING THEIR WATER FROM?

>> IF IT IS ON THE SOUTH OF 1660 CLOSER TO THE ELEMENTARY

SCHOOL. IT WOULD BE IN OUR CCN. >> I DO NOT KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON THE NAMES OF THE TRACKS, MY APOLOGIES.

>> LET US OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS

ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 16. >> SECOND.

>> CAN WE CLARIFY THE DATA WE ARE WANTING?

>> SHOULD THAT BE PART OF THE MOTION.

>> DIRECTING STAFF FOR OUR CURRENT CAPACITY, WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT THE FUTURE SCR THAT HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE PROCESS.

>> WHAT THEY HAVE IMPROVED OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN AND WHERE WERE THEY WHEN THEIR PRESENTATION AND WEAR DID THEY FALL UNDER? IF THEY ARE ALREADY INCLUDED, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT. THAT CHANGES THE CALCULUS FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE SHOWED THE GRAPH . >> TO HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER COME BACK WITH A SIMILAR PRESENTATION FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER OR THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER. IT WAS AS NEEDED, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND HAVE HIM BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK ON WATER.

>> YOU WANT MATT TO COME BACK AND GIVE HIS PRESENTATION

AGAIN? >> THE PRESENTATION TO CLARIFY WHERE THE SCR LIVE IN HIS DATA.

>> BUT YOU DID NOT MAKE THE MOTION. YOU WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO CLARIFY SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY .

>> THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

>> THE QUESTION THAT I AM WANTING ANSWERED , THERE IS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS , OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT WATER CCN THAT WE HAVE GIVEN SCR FOR. I WANT TO KNOW THAT ENTIRE LIST AND WHERE THIS ONE IS, IF IT IS IN THE PRESENTATION AND SAID YES. THIS

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IS THE ONE OF THE SCR THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR. OR, IF IT IS NOT. THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN MY DECISION. ARE WE ACCOUNTING FOR THIS, 333 OR IS THAT FOR THE FUTURE JONAH ? THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. ALSO TO THE POINT OF COUNCILMEMBER DAN THORNTON. HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE, LIKE YOU ARE IN THIS NOTE , THAT BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEY ARE EXPECTING TO COME TO US. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT LIST .

>> WHAT HE KNOW IF THERE IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH IT, AS WELL THAT COMES WITH THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS?

>> YES, THE SCR WOULD CAN DO - CONTAINING THE ZONING AND IT

WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN. >> THERE IS ALSO A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT GOING THROUGH THAT LIST OF PROJECTS.

IT IS A JOINT THING BECAUSE MATT HAS THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF IT. YOU WOULD HAVE THE SUMMARY ON THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. SO WE WOULD HAVE SOME LIGHT VIA BECAUSE WE COULD EVEN SHOOT THEM ALL DOWN . OR CONSIDER SOME OF THESE FORWARD AND NOT ALL OF THEM. BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

>> DEFINITELY A GRAY AREA. >> THAT ON THE 16TH AND THIS AGENDA ITEM BE FAIRBURY SIXTH. YOU COULD GET THOSE ANSWERS AND

WE GO THROUGH THAT LIST. >> WE CAN KEEP THIS ON THE 16TH. IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN, WE CAN.

>> LET ME CLARIFY THAT THE CITY ENGINEER WILL NOT BE BACK UNTIL

JANUARY 6. >> THAT IS A LOT OF SUBMITTALS FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. YOU ARE KILLING ME. WHAT I KEEP HEARING IS THAT IF STAFF HAS BEEN OUT , WE COULD DO THIS OR THAT. AND NOW WE FEEL INCLINED THAT STAFF COULD HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WHY ARE WE UP HERE? >> I DID NOT FEEL INCLINED TO

VOTE YES, IT IS A FACTOR. >> WHY IS A FACTOR? BECAUSE EVERY TIME STAFF HAS A CONVERSATION AND YOU FEEL INCLINED TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE? WITH A BIG PROBLEM. HE WILL HAVE A DEVELOPER AFTER DEVELOPERS IN THE STAFF AND I HAD A CONVERSATION 18 MONTHS AGO. THEY WERE SAYING THIS AND NOW I FEEL INCLINED TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON. AT SOME POINT, WE ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF CAPACITY AND STUFF AND NOT BLAME STAFF. STAFF IS GOING TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS VOTED FOR IT ALL BUT WE JUST HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.

>> THAT IS THE SAME WITH IMPACT FEES PICK YOU ARE FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS THAT IF YOU CAN GET IT IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS , YOU CAN KEEP THE IMPACT FEE. IT IS SIMILAR.

>> NO, IT IS NOT. IMPACT AND WATER IS FINITE. IMPACT IS JUST MONEY IN THE BANK. WATER, ONCE YOU USE IT, YOU CANNOT JUST GET MORE. IN FACT, WHEN YOU COLLECT IMPACT FEES IT IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE ROADS TO WIDEN IT AND ADD SOME INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS DOES NOT ADD ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS ZERO BENEFIT. EVERYBODY HAS PUT US IN THESE SEATS BUT HOW DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BE QUITE HONEST. HOW DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT HELP ANYBODY IN THE CITY? IT DOES NOT. IT ADDS TRAFFIC AND VIEWED AS A TAX BASE. BUT WE ARE TOLD REGULARLY BY STAFF AT RESIDENTIAL COSTS MORE THAN COMMERCIAL. THIS IS COMMERCIAL LAND AND IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. IT IS WAY DOWN THERE. IT IS NOT GOING TO DEVELOP TO A REALLY GREAT USE OR BE A HOTEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ANYTIME SOON. HOW TO GO BACK TO YOUR PEOPLE AND SAY THAT YOU ARE IN A WATER STAGE.

I KNOW THAT WE ARE RAISING YOUR WATER BILL BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE THREE MORE PEOPLE TO HELP YOU BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT IT'S ADDING THE 300 PEOPLE IS WHY WE ARE HAVING TO RAISE THE WATER BILLS. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO SUPPLY YOU GUYS AND WE KEEP GIVING IT AWAY. THAT IS WHERE IT IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS A FINITE ISSUE AND TRAFFIC IMPACT PEOPLE WILL NOT KILL PEOPLE. WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF WATER AND CANNOT FLUSH YOUR TOILET, THAT IS A PROBLEM. POSTPONING THIS , AND

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IT IS LIKE KICKING A CANDIDATE DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO SAY NO BECAUSE WE HAVE A HABIT OF SAYING NO. THEY DO NOT WANT TO SAY YES EITHER BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO COME UNGLUED ON WE KEEP SAYING YES TO DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE HOPING THAT THE STAFF FOR COME BACK AND GIVE ENOUGH WHERE WE CAN HANG OUR HAT AND SAY SARAH AND MATT SAID BAD THINGS SO WE ARE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR US. HE WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.

>> FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IF MATT'S PRESENTATION WITH THE WATER CONSUMPTION FOR ONE YEAR . FROM WHAT WE JUST SAT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE HE KNEW THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING IN THROUGH STAFF FOR THE NEXT MEETING. HE COULD HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THE CCN OF THE CITY IN A TIMEFRAME THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE ARE OKAY WITH THOSE LUE'S COMING IN. OKAY, YOU ARE ALREADY CONSIDERED IN THAT PRESENTATION WE WERE GIVEN. IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, AND YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PRESENTATION, I AM SORRY. IT WILL BE A VOTE NO. THAT DOES MATTER AND IS NOT STAFF SAYING ONE THING OR THE OTHER. THAT IS WHAT CLARIFICATION STAFF PRESENTED TO ME. NOTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN BUT BECAUSE MATT WAS COMING TO COUNSEL. AND HE PUT THE DATA THAT HE GAVE US AS THIS ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR CCN BECAUSE HE ASSUMED IT WOULD BE. THAT IS A DIFFERENT AND VERY IMPORTANT VARIABLE THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MY MIND OF WHETHER I WOULD SAY YES. I CANNOT ANSWER THAT TONIGHT.

I'M AFRAID TO SAY NO IS NOT TRUE. I NEED TO KNOW THE

SUBTEXT. >> TO GRADE ANOTHER HYPOTHETICAL. OUR WATER DEAL DOES INDEED COME THROUGH IN 2026. RICK MAY HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THE TIMELINE. SO IF THE WATER DEAL COMES THROUGH AND IT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY REGARDLESS OF USAGE OF THE WATER CAPACITY THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING. WE CAN BE REALLY IN A BIND . REGARDLESS, WE ARE PAYING EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING WHAT WE HAVE ACQUIRED. THIS WOULD BE FORCING BILLS UP , AS WELL. I WOULD NOT SAY THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE IT. I DO NOT THINK THAT WE ARE AT THE RED BLINKING LIGHT, NUCLEAR OPTION. I DO NOT THINK WE ARE THERE, THE CITY ENGINEER HAS NOT INDICATED WE ARE THERE, YET. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD , MATHEMATICALLY AND ENGINEERING WISE HE WOULD SOUND THAT ALARM. WE DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THAT PEOPLE IN THIS SCARCITY MINDSET. WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT IN AN ABUNDANT SITUATION. THAT IS IN

THE MIX , AS WELL. >> I MET WITH HIM PERSONALLY.

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THOSE QUESTIONS FROM THE LAST MEETING AND LITERALLY WHAT SPURRED THAT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM. I WAS IN A MEETING. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING AT THIS TIME?

>> HE COLOR-CODED THIS AND THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING TO YOUR POINT. WITH HIM COLOR CODING THIS , IS THIS THE FINAL AS WHAT IS PLANNED AND WHAT IS NOT? IF IT IS PLANNED IN HERE, I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT HE WOULD HAVE COLOR-CODED IT ACCORDINGLY IF HE KNEW THIS WAS COMING IN HERE TO SAY. MY FINAL PLANS I'M GIVING TO COUNSEL THAT HAS THE FUTURE WATER USE, I WILL COLOR-CODED THAT TO INCORPORATE THIS RIGHT HERE.

>> MY POINT IS THAT YOU COULD NOT COLOR-CODED AS ONE OF TWO WAYS. IT IS IN THE JONAH CCN OR THEY WERE PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION TO GET OUT OF JONAH CCN.

>> HE PUT THE BOUNDARY OF CITY OF HUTTO ALL AROUND IT.

>> THE ORANGE WAS NOT DESIGNATED AS HUTTO FOR JONAH

OR NOT. >> IF HE OUTLINED THE CITY OF HUTTO WASTEWATER BOUNDARY . AND INSIDE THAT BOUNDARY IS THIS.

>> THIS MAP DOES NOT TELL YOU . THAT MAP DOES NOT TELL YOU

WHETHER HIS PROPERTY -- >> YOU ARE NOT DEBATING THE

MOTION OF POSTPONING. >> FOR ME, THE REASON I WANTED TO POSTPONE IS NOT BECAUSE I LIKE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I WANT TO MAKE HIM - AND INFORMED DECISIONS BUT I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT. I CANNOT MAKE A VOTE WHEN I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION OR TO APPROVE SOMETHING. TO CLARIFY,

THAT IS ALREADY IN MY MINDSET. >> LET US CALL THE VOTE TO POSTPONE.

THE 16TH. >> MAY I CLARIFY THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

>> NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

>> WHO IS SECOND ON THE ORIGINAL?

>> EVAN PORTERFIELD. >> IF YOU ARE POSTPONING , AND NOW YOU ARE ADMITTING THE MOTION TO NOT DENY BUT TO POSTPONE . IF THE PEOPLE MAKING THE MOTION WILL JUST ACCEPT IT

OR CALL THE VOTE. >> WE NEED A NEW MOTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION IDENTICAL. WE WILL POSTPONE UNTIL JANUARY 16TH AND ASK THE STAFF TO BRING MORE DETAILS ON THE USAGE.

VOTE BEING CALLED ] >> THIS PASSES, 5-2 ITEM 10 .

[10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2024-326 for the City of Hutto completing a nomination ballot for the board of Texas Coalition for Affordable Power (TCAP). (Kate Moriarty) ]

2, THE CONSIDERABLE ACTION FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO COMPLETING A TEXAS COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE COVERAGE .

>> GOOD EVENING, KATE MORIARTY, THE ASSISTANT. THIS IS IN RELATION TO THE ITEM THAT CAME TO YOU IN JANUARY 2 JOINT TCAP,

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NOW THAT WE REMEMBER WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE ANNUAL ELECTION OF THEIR BOARD. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE FOR ALL EXCEPT FOR HENRY D'ORDINADO AND AMY RAY FERGUSON. SO, VOTING FOR 7 OF THE NINE PEOPLE.

>> WE ARE SUPPOSED TO VOTE FOR 8 PEOPLE.

>> THOSE OF THE SEVEN THAT I WANTED TO VOTE FOR. IT IS ONE

OF THE OTHER TWO. >> A MOTION FROM RANDAL CLARK TO VOTE FOR ALL OF THE NOMINEES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES.

>> SECOND. >> IV CLARIFICATION, DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO EIGHT OR UP TO EIGHT PEOPLE.

>> SO CASTING THESE VOTES FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS , WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO?

>> SO, REGARDLESS OF WHO WE VOTE FOR, THEY ARE GOING TO FILL THE PLACES THAT ARE UP. IN TERMS OF WHAT IT MEANS FOR HUTTO , I GUESS THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE BOARD IS ACTIVELY CONSIDERING. THAT WOULD BE THEM REVIEWING THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH I BELIEVE INVOLVES SOME LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH OF THIS. THERE ARE TREASURE REPORTS AND ALSO EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS. AS A MEMBER , YOU CAN VIEW AND JOIN AND LEARN AS WELL FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS RELATING TO