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[Planning and Zoning on January 7, 2025.]
IS SEVEN O'CLOCK, SO WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, JANUARY 7TH AT 7:00 PM TO ORDER.COMMISSIONER LEE, COMMISSIONER BOYER AND COMMISSIONER SHERROD ARE ABSENT ALL.
UH, NEXT UP IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DID NOT.
ALRIGHT, THEN MOVING ON FROM THAT, WE'LL MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEMS. AGENDA ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE SPECIAL CALL TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2024.
UH, I WILL SAY OTHER THAN THE, UH, MULTIPLE TYPOS THAT, UH, THIS LOOKS GOOD.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, CHAIR CHAI BRIAN LEE
SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.1.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT 4.1 WITH THE NOTATION THAT THERE'S SOME TYPOS.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WORTZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART TO ACCEPT 4.1 WITH CORRECTION OF TYPOS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
NEXT IS ITEM 4.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.
TYPOS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT LOOKS ACCURATE TO ME.
YEAH, THE VOTE, THE VOTE COUNTS LOOK ACCURATE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 4.2? THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.2.
MOTION TO ACCEPT 4.2 AS WRITTEN, BUT CORRECT ALL TYPOS.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WORTZ TO ACCEPT 4.2 WITH CORRECTION OF TYPOS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED TITAN INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK, PHASE THREE, PRELIMINARY PLAT 51.260 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND THREE LOTS LOCATED ON LIMMER LOOP AND TO THE EAST OF VAC INNOVATION BOULEVARD.
UH, SO THIS TRACT OF LAND'S, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 51 ACRES OF LAND.
UH, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF INNOVATION BOULEVARD AT THE LIMMER LOOP INTERSECTION.
SO IT'S THERE JUST SOUTH OF LIMMER LOOP.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAT IS TO, UM, HAVE THREE INDUSTRIAL LOTS.
THE SITE WAS ANNEXED AND ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN MAY OF 2021.
THE, UH, SURROUNDING ZONINGS YOU CAN SEE TO THE WEST IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH SINGLE FAMILY AND, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR B TWO.
UH, TO THE EAST YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY AND TO THE SOUTH AGAIN, THAT, UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AGAIN, THREE INDUSTRIAL LOTS.
UM, HERE IS A, UH, IMAGE OF THE PLAT.
ALL THOSE COMMENTS ON THERE HAVE BEEN CLEARED.
UM, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO HAVE THE ENTIRE, UH, PRELIMINARY PLAT,
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UM, OR THE PLAT WITH YOU.UM, SHOCK CLOCK WAS, UM, VOLUNTARILY WAIVED.
UH, STAFF SENT OUT NOTICES TO 46 SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN A 200 FOOT BUFFER.
UH, TODAY WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES FOR THIS ONE.
UM, SO STAFF REVIEWED THIS PLAT, UM, AND FOUND THAT, UM, IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UDC.
SO THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE, UM, PLAT AS PRESENTED.
ALRIGHT, THIS DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:06 PM IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN ZERO 7:06 PM AND OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION FROM THE DAIS.
I, I'D LIKE TO LEAD OFF WITH A QUESTION.
IF WE CAN GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO THE SITE MAP.
UH, THE ONE PREVIOUS, THAT ONE, WHAT IS NINE 50? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ANY REASON FOR THAT TO BE CALLED OUT AS A SEPARATE LOT.
OH, IT'S, THAT'S ON A SEPARATE LOT.
IT'S JUST A SEPARATE TRACK WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE TAX PARCELS.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THE ORIGINAL HOMESTEAD FOR THEIR ACRE.
BECAUSE YEAH, LOOK, LOOKING AT THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, PAGE 14, KIND OF AERIAL MAP.
UM, I BELIEVE I WAS LOOKING AT IT LIKE THAT OLD, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
UM, THAT WAS THE FORMER MALDONADO HOMESTEAD THAT WAS OUT THERE, AND I BELIEVE THAT HOUSE HAS SINCE EITHER BEEN MOVED OFF OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT'S JUST THE OLD, UH, HOMESTEAD.
I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE THREE LOTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE USE WILL BE? UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT RIGHT, BUT LIKE WHAT TYPE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DO WE KNOW? IT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE THE SAME TYPE OF BUILDINGS THEY'RE BUILT THERE NOW.
BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING THERE? IT'S JUST OTHER BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED A WAREHOUSE BASICALLY, LIKE WAREHOUSES NEXT TO, IT'LL BE ST.
IT SHOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THE REST OF TITAN.
IT'S LIKE A STRIP MALL FOR INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES.
THEY CAN ALL RENT AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE CITY.
REQUIREMENTS AND PERMIT ARE, ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, WHAT AM I TRYING TO THINK OF? UM, THE WAY THE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE PLACED ON THERE, THAT THE DRIVES ARE NOT GOING TO BE FACING THE, THE, THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THERE ARE THINGS WITHIN THE UDC JUST BASED ON THE, UM, EXISTING WORDS, WHAT IS UP WITH 2025 WORDS
THAT THOSE THINGS WILL, UM, THERE WERE AMENDMENTS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL HAD APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO HELP FURTHER BUFFER, UH, THOSE, ALL THOSE, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER.
IT WAS, AND I THINK PART OF THAT WAS ALSO, UM, TO BE FRANK, IT WAS ALSO THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SAID DURING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT THERE WEREN'T GOING TO BE THE BAY DOORS FACING, BUT IT WAS STILL ALLOWED BY CODE TO BE FACING.
IT JUST HAD TO BE MORE THAN, I THINK 200 FEET AWAY.
AND THEY ARE SO IT DOES MEET CODE, BUT TO BE TOLD YOU WON'T SEE BAY DOORS AND THEN TO SEA BAY DOORS IS, UM, OF, SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL STILL DOES MEET THE CODE AS IT WAS WRITTEN AT THE TIME OF THOSE SITE PLANS.
BUT NO, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION.
SO, UM, STAFF HAD COME BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WE HAD DONE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THAT TO HELP WITH THAT BUFFERING ALSO, IS THERE GOING TO BE, UH, AN INCREASE IN TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED? 'CAUSE I KNOW WITH THE OTHER ONES THERE IS THAT BUFFER OR TREES BETWEEN, THERE IS, UM, ON THIS ONE, I KNOW THAT WE, THERE WILL BE BUFFERING REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MUCH, IF THIS COMES IN WITH THE CURRENT UDC, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE FEE AND LIE FOR TREES, WHICH THEN GOES INTO THE PARK VAN FUND SO WE CAN GO PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES SOMEWHERE.
UM, THAT IS ONE THING I, MOST OF YOU, I BELIEVE WERE AT THE MEETING, UH, THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A TREE FEE AND LIE, WE SAID, HEY, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU PUT THOSE TREES IN THIS SPECIFIC PLACE, IF THAT WAS CHEAPER THAN THEM TO AND LIE, UM, JUST TO GO AHEAD AND PLANT THEM, UM, TO GIVE THAT APPLICANT OPTIONS.
SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR THIS, BUT OUR STANDARDS RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THE UDC READS,
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IT'S USUALLY PRETTY TREE HEAVY.EVEN WITH THE, IF IT'S A WEIRD HOUSE, I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
ASHLEY, HOW, ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS THAT WE PULLED THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR REGARDING THE NOISE? IF I HAVE MY HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND THERE'S 18 WHEELERS ALL DAY? NO, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, SO THERE IS, WE DO HAVE, RIGHT NOW THE UDC, THERE IS A PARAGRAPH ABOUT NOISE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IF IT GOT TO BE MORE THAN WHAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN THE CITY CODE, NOT THE A C MM-HMM.
IF IT WAS ABOVE THAT DECIBEL, UM, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE.
I WILL TELL YOU, MOST OF THE TIME TRAFFIC DOES NOT EXCEED THAT DURING THE HOURS.
UM, EVEN AFTER 10:00 PM UNLESS IT'S OKAY.
UM, A NUMBER OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WERE TO BE CORRECTED OR ANSWERED ON PAGE 16, THERE'S MENTION OF A TIA IN THE, IN THE MAP IN THE RED, UM, PROVIDE ACCEPTED TIA TO CLEAR THE TIA REQUIREMENTS DURING PLATTING PROCESS.
SO CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GATING ITEM HERE OR NOT.
PROBABLY NOT, BUT IS THERE A T WHAT'S THE STATUS OF A TIA? UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY PENDING.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH ENGINEERING, SO IT'S, I BELIEVE STILL IN REVIEW THEY WERE GOING AROUND AND ROUND.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SECTIONS OF TITAN AND INCLUDE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY REALLY JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PIECEMEAL JUST THIS AND WHAT ENGINEERING CAME BACK WITH WAS NO, DO ALL OF IT BECAUSE IT, YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY LARGE INDUSTRIAL TEAM.
SO I BELIEVE THAT'S IN PLAY RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, I, I GUESS WE CAN, IF WE ACCEPT IT, THEN WE WOULD BE, UM, ASSUMING THE, THE, THE FUTURE TIA PASSES OR, OR IS ACCEPTED.
WELL, IS THE TIAA GATING ITEM FOR OUR AGENDA ITEM TODAY? NO.
THE TIA WOULD REALLY ONLY COME INTO PLAY LIKELY WITH, UM, ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION AT INNOVATION AND LIMMER.
AND POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION, I WOULD THINK IN THAT LIGHT, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE.
UM, WHERE THIS IS, THERE WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, FEE PAYMENTS, AND THEN POTENTIAL OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
WELL, MY, MY OPINION AS A, A SINGLE, AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER IS THAT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TIA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
I GUESS I'VE GOT, UH, TWO MORE COMMENTS.
AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE 14 KIND OF OVERHEAD MOCK-UP.
UM, FIRST CONCERN IS BUILDING 11.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE BAYS ARE FACING THE HOUSES.
SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BY CODE, THEY ARE, THERE'S A FURTHER SETBACK AND SOME BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, I I CAN SEE THE 185 FOOT SETBACK.
I'M JUST WORRIED THAT WITH THE BAYS THERE, THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO NOISE FROM TRUCKS BACKING INTO BAYS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UH, THE OTHER ONE IS KIND OF A, A DESIGN QUESTION.
WE'VE GOT THE CIRCLE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, OR NOT TRAFFIC CIRCLE, THE CUL-DE-SAC.
THERE WE GO IN KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.
SO YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU HAVE TO GET ONTO INNOVATION AND ONTO LIMMER TO GET INTO THIS AREA, INTO THE NORTH SIDE.
THERE'S NO DIRECT ACCESS BETWEEN THESE TWO PARTS.
IS THAT BY DESIGN? IS THAT INTENTIONAL? DOES IT MAKES ME QUESTION THE DESIGN?
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THIS ONE.
UM, THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, WELL, ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE PAPER MM-HMM
WHERE IT'S FACING NORTH, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A THROUGH STREET.
UM, THE CITY ENGINEER THAT WE HAVE NOW, THAT WAS HERE AT THE TIME OF THIS, WHO LEFT BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION CAME BACK AND WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK THAT IT DID NOT OCCUR THE WAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED.
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BE A WAY TO RECTIFY THAT, ALTHOUGH THERE IS THAT INTERVENING PARKING LOT.SO WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE, NOT WE, I WILL FULLY ADMIT, I'M NOT THAT CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, SO THE CITY ENGINEER IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY WORK INTO THIS.
THIS LAYOUT HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED.
THERE ARE SOME APPROVED BUILDINGS ON THIS LAYOUT.
BUT THE SIDE THAT'S, UM, CLOSEST TO THE UPPER RIGHT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE NORTH ARROW FACING MM-HMM
UM, ESSENTIALLY, UM, IT'S REALLY JUST THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED.
SO THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE CHURCH AND THE HOUSE IS OKAY, BUT AGAIN, THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN SITE PLANNED.
I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT THAT WOULD REALLY APPROVABLE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GONNA GO INTO THAT REVIEW ONCE WE GET THERE.
THERE'S SIMPLY JUST SHOWING THAT IT CAN'T FIT AND THIS IS WHAT THE USE IS.
I'M, I'M THINKING WHILE WE'RE TURNING DIRT AND LAYING OUT THESE BUILDINGS AND THESE PAVING THESE ROADS AND SO ON, LET'S NOT DO WHAT STAR RANCH HAD TO DO AND CONVERT A TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR A CUL-DE-SAC INTO A THROUGH STREET.
YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT PAY THAT KIND OF MONEY.
SO YEAH, I'M, I'M THINKING THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GRADE SEPARATION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IDEA HAD COME FROM.
I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY AND IT'S TURNED INTO MORE PERMANENT.
SO LEMME SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
COULD WE NOT REQUIRE THAT? EXCUSE ME.
COULD WE NOT REQUIRE THAT TO BE DONE? NOT AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WOULD GO THROUGH THE BACK PARKING LOT OF BUILDING SEVEN, WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE, THIS SECTION MM-HMM
THIS IS ON THIS PLAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE.
AND, AND IF WE COULD CONNECT, LET'S SAY, UH, ANYWHERE IN BUILDING NINE, BUILDING 10 TO BUILDING FOURS PAVEMENT, THAT COULD BE A SOLUTION.
BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF I'M GOING FROM BUILDING ONE TO BUILDING SEVEN, I HAVE TO GET OUT ON THE PUBLIC STREETS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YOU KNOW, AND WITH UPS, OTHER DELIVERY SERVICES, ET CETERA.
BUILDING FOUR THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THERE, THAT'S ALREADY THERE, UM, THEY SHOULD HAVE CONNECTIVITY OVER TO BUILDING THREE THROUGH THEIR PARKING LOT, SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONNECTIVITY, BUT WITH THAT NORTH SOUTH, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
AND, AND THEY DO HAVE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR.
I'VE BEEN IN THERE AND THEY DO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
IT'S JUST THE NORTH SOUTH THAT'S MISSING.
CAN WE ENCOURAGE, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, RECOMMEND WE CAN FYI, WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT IN A PLAT, AS LONG AS IT'S THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN EITHER APPROVE OR WELL, YOU COULD DENY, BUT THEN WE GET SUED.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE OPTION, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A NOTE OF IT.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST PASS ALONG BACK TO THE CITY ENGINEER MM-HMM
AS THEY ARE, AS HIS TEAM HAS DOING.
A ASIDE FROM THE CONNECTIVITY NORTH SOUTH AND BUILDING 11 BAYS, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, THEN? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.3.
I, UH, MAKE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM 4.3 TO APPROVE AS PROVIDED BY STAFF.
AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRISON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WIRTZ TO APPROVE ITEM 4.3 AS PRESENTED.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 2 24 BROWN STREET TO ALLOW AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN THE SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS.
THIS, UH, SUBJECT LOT IS PLOTTED WITHIN THE HU PARK SECTION FIVE FINAL PLAT THAT WAS RECORDED BACK IN, UH,
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2004.CURRENTLY ZONED SF ONE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY.
SO THAT DOES ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, UM, AS WELL AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROVED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UH, THE LOT IS, UH, 7,800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE VERY MINIMUM REQUIRED, UH, LOT SIZE FOR AN A DU.
SO THIS CAME TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH WHAT STARTED AS A CO A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS TRYING TO, UH, BRING THE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO THE FIRST STEP TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO, UM, OF COURSE GET A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE ALREADY EXISTING A DU.
IF THE SEP WERE TO BE, UM, APPROVED, THEN UM, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS WOULD HAVE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY APPROVE SOME VARIANCES FOR THE SITE.
UM, THIS PROJECT WILL NEED HOA APPROVAL.
UM, OF COURSE THE HOA REVIEW IS DIFFERENT FROM A CITY REVIEW AND DIFFERENT APPROVALS, UH, AND STAFFS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON, ON GATHERING ALL THAT INFORMATION.
THE LEFT MAP IS A MAP OF OUR CURRENT ZONING.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS BOXED OFF IN THAT LIME GREEN COLOR.
AND AGAIN, THAT SF ONE ZONING.
AND ON THE RIGHT IN THE DARKER YELLOW IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, SHOWING AS A SUBURBAN SUBDIVISION.
HERE WE HAVE THE, UH, SURVEY, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MAIN STRUCTURE MAIN HOUSE IS.
UM, AND THEN IN THE BACK RIGHT CORNER IS THIS, UM, A DU.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, UM, IF APPROVED, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UM, FOR THAT VARI OR THE SET.
UH, THE BACK SETBACK, UM, AS IT ENCROACHES HERE IS A IMAGE OF DWELLING ACCESSORY UNITS AS STATED OUT IN IN OUR UDC.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, OF COURSE, THE SUP WERE TO BE APPROVED.
AND THEN THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN 10.30 6.5 0.3, UM, WOULD EITHER BE MET OR AGAIN, WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT.
UM, AT THE, UM, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE CASE, THE FOLLOWING DATES WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS, THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UM, BUT IS LACKING PERMITS.
UH, SO THERE WAS A GARAGE REMODEL BACK IN APRIL OF 2009, A HOUSE EXTENSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2010.
THE GUEST HOUSE IN AUGUST OF 2010.
UH, THERE WAS SOME FLAT WORK ON THE REAR PATIO IN MAY OF 2021, AND THEN A GAZEBO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THAT EXISTING, UM, A DU, JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA OF, UM, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN HERE ARE SOME SIDE IMAGES, UM, JUST THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT A DU.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, THIS REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE A DU, UM, ALIGNS WITH THE SOAR 2040 PLAN, UM, WHICH WOULD INTEGRATE THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSE INTO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, OF COURSE, UM, STILL, UM, PRESERVING THE CULTURE AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUT INCLUDING MORE, UM, OF THOSE OPTIONS.
UM, AS STATED OUT IN, IN OUR NEW COMP PLAN, STAFF NOTIFIED 160 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 600 FOOT BUFFER, UM, DATE.
WELL, AT THE TIME OF THIS, UM, WHEN THIS WAS COMPLETED, WE HAD THREE.
YOU'VE RECEIVED A COUPLE MORE AND WE'VE PUT THEM UP.
UM, THEY ALL DO OBJECT TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF HAD RECEIVED, UM, I GUESS THEY, MAYBE SOME OF THE CITIZENS THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE GOING IN.
UM, SO WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT IT, IT WAS FOR, UM, THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, WE DID RECEIVE THOSE OBJECTIONS AND YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.
ALRIGHT, WELL, THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:25 PM IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NO ONE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF, IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, THEN, UH, AND THEN WE'LL AFTER THAT WE HAVE A FORM THAT IF YOU CAN JUST SIGN YEP.
UM, MY, I, I'M IN THE 600 FOOT BUFFER.
AND, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT, UM, AS HOMEOWNERS,
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WE COULD BUILD THESE TYPE OF DWELLINGS IN OUR BACKYARD, BUT WE MUST SEEK PERMITS FIRST.SO IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE.
IT IS, IT JUST WAS DONE BACKWARDS.
SO, UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE OBJECTION SO I CAN WEIGH IN.
LIKE, WHY ARE, WHY WOULD WE, WHY ARE PEOPLE OBJECTING TO IT? IS IT BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE RENTING IT OUT TO PEOPLE? ARE THEY USING IT FOR PERSONAL USE? UM, IS IT A AIRBNB? UNDERSTOOD.
I THINK WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, FROM WHAT WE RECEIVED, JUST CLARIFICATION, ARE THERE FOUR TOTAL RESPONSES? THERE'S FIVE.
ONE FROM BLANCA IBARRA, A DU IS A POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES AND FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
UH, SECOND IS FROM MS. THOMAS.
UH, THIRD IS, OH, I THIRD IS FROM, UH, MS. U ZOO THAT'S ON THE BACK OF THOMAS.
THE ONES THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT WE PUT UP THERE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHITMAN AND SANCHEZ WERE THE, THE TWO ADDS MM-HMM
UM, SO, UH, JUST KIND OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION, UH, LET'S SEE.
IT, UH, I SEE A PRIVACY PROPERTY VALUE CONCERN AND A, UH, OBJECTION STATING THAT IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE ENOUGH WITH ALL OF THESE INVESTORS RENTING HOMES TO MULTI-FAMILIES LIVING IN THE HOMES.
AND NO COMMENT ON THE OBJECTION.
SO THE, THE, THE DWELLINGS, I FORGOT THE ADUS MM-HMM
UM, ARE THEY MIN FOR LIKE AIRBNB USE AND FOR RENTAL? THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING GOVERNING THE USE OF THEM.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS AS FAR AS THE USE OF, AS AN AIRBNB, I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT YOU'RE, UM, YOU HAVE AN HOA THERE MM-HMM
UH, WHAT'S YOUR, UH, CC AND R STATE ABOUT THAT? I KNOW I LIVE IN A HOA AND R SAYS YOU CANNOT RUN A BUSINESS, WHICH AN AIRBNB IS A BUSINESS.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THAT.
AND THEN IT ALSO IS GONNA DEPEND ON HOW GOOD YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS.
UH, IF, IF AN AIRBNB IS THERE AND, AND THEY'RE ILLEGAL, THEN SOMEBODY CAN REPORT IT AND THEN THEY CAN DO THE PROCESS.
SO PUTTING THAT ASIDE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IF IT WERE ME, IF, AND I HAVE PARENTS THAT WANTED TO AGE IN PLACE AND I DECIDED TO BUILD THIS A DU IN MY BACKYARD, I WOULD NEED TO SEEK PERMITS FIRST.
BUT IT WOULD BE OKAY TO BUILD AN A DU IN MY BACKYARD WITH THESE PERMITS.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY HOA IF I SAID, WELL, PARENTS ARE OUT, I'M GONNA DO A AIRBNB MM-HMM
I HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY HOA MM-HMM
AND I WANTED MY PARENTS TO BE IN THE DWELLING.
OR WHOEVER I WANT TO BE IN THE DWELLING OR, OR COLLEGE STUDENTS OR YEAH.
ANY, ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
IS THERE A LIMIT ON HOW TALL THEY ARE? OR DO THEY ALL HAVE TO BE THE SAME HEIGHT? THERE'S A HEIGHT RESTRICTION.
THERE'S A HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN ALL OF THE UNIVERSITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THIS IS JUST A-S-U-P-A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO AS, AS FAR AS THE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND FOR CITY STAFF THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND REVIEWED AND COMPARED TO THE UDC AND ALL THOSE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
NOW, AS FAR AS A SPECIAL USE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A ZONING ISSUE.
SO THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY ONE DWELLING.
A RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING, WHICH IS A DU, THEN YOU MUST GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
LIKE A GROCERY, A CONVENIENCE STORE, HAVING A CONVENIENCE STORE.
BUT IF THEY WANT TO SELL PETROLEUM PRODUCTS OR GASOLINE, THEY HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS GOING ON TODAY.
IS US TO, TO NOT LOOK AT THE, THE, THE BUILDING OF IT.
IT'S BEEN MET BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CULINARY, OUR CITY STAFF GOING THROUGH, THROUGH THAT.
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OFF.NOW I WILL, MY NAME IS JIM MORRIS.
I AM A BOARD COMMISSIONER, BUT I'M ALSO A CITIZEN.
I AM A RESIDENT OF HU PARK MM-HMM
ON PHILLIPS STREET AND BEEN THERE SINCE 2008, 2009 TIMEFRAME.
I WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE HOA FROM BASICALLY 2012 THROUGH 2008.
YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE APPROVED THINGS.
I DO UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN, UH, CORRECT ME, BUT PER TEXAS STATUTES AND HOA IS OVERWRITTEN OVERRULED.
IF A, IF A SOMETHING OUT OF COMPLIANCE THAT BEATS CITY CODE IS GRANDFATHERED IN AFTER FOUR YEARS.
SO IF THIS WAS BUILT IN 2010, THERE'S NOTHING A HOA CAN DO ABOUT IT LEGALLY.
UH, THEY, IF IT WAS WITHIN THOSE FOUR YEARS, THEY COULD PUT SOME PENALTIES OR LIEN OR SOME PROCESSING ON THAT.
AND I HAVEN'T VISITED THESE TEXAS STATUTES IN MANY YEARS NOW.
IS THAT IT'S GRANDFATHERED AFTER FOUR YEARS.
UM, AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I WAS ON OUR A CC COMMITTEE IN MY SUBDIVISION UHHUH, UH, AND I JUST GOT OFF OF IT A YEAR AGO.
UH, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT LAW.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
I, I, I JUST, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT LAW, SO I, I, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT A, IT'S CHAPTER 2 0 9, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FAMILIAR.
2 0 9 IS SO
BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THIS AS A P AND Z MEMBER.
JUST CLARK CLARIFY, THIS IS MY HAT AS A RESIDENT OF H AUTO PARK AND BEING ON THE HOA THERE MM-HMM
AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAWS.
I'M NOT A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PER PERSON, BUT I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS DONE BEFOREHAND.
AND THEN ASK FOR PERMITS OR PERMISSIONS AFTERWARDS.
AND THAT'S AS A P AND Z PERSON DO.
MY LAST QUESTION, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
DO YOU KNOW IF, LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH, WHEN YOU HAVE A A DU, ARE YOU EXPECTED TO GET ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS OR IS IT JUST CONSIDERED THAT ONE HOME? WELL, THAT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A SEPARATE ADDRESS, DOES IT? ASHLEY? IT'S THE SAME ADDRESS.
SO, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE AUTHORIZED AN ADDITIONAL SET.
THEY'D HAVE TO PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL SET FOR RECYCLING AND TRASH.
IF THEY NEED, EVERY RESIDENT NEED MORE GET, THEY NEED AS MANY BINS AS THEY WANT.
SO IF IT'S OVERFLOWING, CLAWSON WON'T PICK IT UP.
SOMETIMES THEY DO OUT GRACE, BUT FOR 9 1 1 PURPOSES, IT'S ONE HOME.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE, UH, WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:34 PM AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
OH, WHERE DO WE START?
WELL, I MEAN, CAN YOU PUT THE, UH, THE, UH, SURVEY BACK UP THERE TO BE ON PAGE? WHAT IS THAT? 36? 36.
UM, I'VE GOT A MAJOR CONCERN BASED ON THIS, UH, SURVEY.
THE ONE STORY, UH, SIDING BUILDING IS BUILT OVER THE BUILDING LINE, UM, WHICH IS ILLEGAL.
UM, YOU CAN GET A VARIANCE ON IT.
UH, THEY GO TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH SELL FOR THEM TO DO IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN EXEMPTION FROM IT.
'CAUSE THE TITLE COMPANY WILL HAVE TO DO, UH, A SPECIAL, UH, PROCEDURE.
AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UH, THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE ON A VERY SMALL, WELL, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT SMALL, BUT, UH, A SEVEN, 800 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
IT, THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE WATER FLOWS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE WATER FLOWS ON THIS PROPERTY.
IF IT FLOWS TO THE SIDE, TO THE NORTH, TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WHICH, WHICHEVER SIDE.
ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES ON PAGE 34, THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.
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IT JUST, IT THE, THE PRIVACY FENCE ON.CAN YOU BRING UP 34 PAGE 34? I JUST RIGHT THERE.
UM, THE BOTTOM, THE, THIS ONE MM-HMM
IT'S, IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO ME.
THE OTHER PICTURE UP THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND THE PRIVACY FENCE GOES UP TO THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT, BUT IT, IT, THAT OR IT, HUH.
IT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE THAT, THAT GUEST HOUSE THAT THEY'RE TALKING MM-HMM
I'M TALKING WITHOUT THIS HOUSE.
AND THAT'S, I'M TALKING ABOUT USED TO BE A PATIO.
SO THIS IS THE ONE STORY GUEST HOUSE THERE, RIGHT? YES.
WELL THEN IT'S THIS BUILDING THAT'S BUILT OVER THE, UH, BUILDING LINE.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS IS I'M REALLY AFRAID THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THAT BEFORE LONG THERE'S GONNA BE TWO OR 300 HOMES OVER THERE THAT HAS THE SAME THING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS 100%.
JUST TO COMMENT ON THAT, UM, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN IN THAT, THAT HUDDLE PARK SINCE 2008, 2009.
UM, IT'S BEEN UNDER VERY POOR MANAGEMENT IN A LOT OF WAYS.
BUT A CC HAS HAD ZERO CONTROL.
UM, THERE'S PROBABLY ALREADY 200 PLUS THINGS OF THIS OCCURRING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY GAZEBOS WAY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES.
NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY WAIVERS FROM THE HOAI DO NOT KNOW ABOUT CITY PERMITTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I'VE JUST DRIVEN THIS PROPERTY A LOT OF TIMES.
THE CO CONCERN I HAVE IS, YES, THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THAT COIN.
IF WE ALLOW THIS UNABATED TYPE OF JUST LACK OF CONTROL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT'S IN THERE, BUT THE LACK OF CONTROL OF WHAT'S GOES IN THERE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, ASSUMING MY, MY MY, WHAT I THINK IS TRUE ABOUT THE GRANDFATHERING AFTER FOUR YEARS, THESE ARE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING AWAY.
SO HOW CAN WE SAY ONE HOUSE HAS GOT ALL THESE A CC INFRACTIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THIS A CC INFRACTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN, UM, THIS IS ALL ALREADY OCCURRING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S BEEN THIS, I THINK PLATTED IN 2004, SEVEN PHASES ON.
UM, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT LAW, THE ACC, UHHUH
SO I AGREE IF, IF, IF THEY'RE CHARGING OR NOT CHARGING, THAT'S ON THEM.
SO I WAS READING ONE OF THE, THE, WELL ALL, ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AND ONE OF THE, UM, RESIDENTS MENTIONED LIGHTING.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VALID CONCERN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTING IS LIKE OF THAT STRUCTURE.
UM, IF I LIVED NEXT TO THEM AND THE LIGHTING OF THAT, IF IT'S LIKE A PORCH LIGHT ON THAT THING, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT THAT BEAMING INTO MY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT, THE PICTURES ARE GOOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT GREAT, UM, TO GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
I ALSO SHARE THE SAME CONCERN AS COMMISSIONER WORTZ RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE.
NOTHING THAT I SEE HERE SHOWS THAT THERE'S ANY TYPE OF APPROPRIATE DRAINAGE OF THAT CONCRETE.
UM, AND FINALLY, I THINK THAT WE SET A PRECEDENCE.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME HERE RECENTLY, UM, REQUESTING AN A DU AND THEY PRIOR TO THE BUILD, AND THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO TAKE.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO START A TREND OF APPROVING THESE RETROSPECTIVELY, UM, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
SO I ADDITIONALLY DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO APPROVE.
WELL, UM, AS FAR AS A TREND OR A, A, UH, SETTING A PRECEDENT, UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A SOMEWHAT SIMILAR SITUATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
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WHERE SOMEONE HAD BUILT WITHOUT PERMIT AND THEN THEY WANTED US TO APPROVE THE CHANGES.THE SUP FOR AN AN A DU AFTER THE FACT.
I VOTED NO, I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS AS WELL.
NEXT QUESTION IS FOR, MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.
UH, THERE WERE FIVE IMPROVEMENTS LISTED.
DO WE HAVE A PERMIT? IT'S NOT PART OF THE SUP.
UH, BUT THE GUEST HOUSE IS ONLY THE GUEST HOUSE.
THIS IS A 7,800 SQUARE FOOT LOT, UH, LEAVING OFF THE INCHES ON THE PAGE 36 SHEET.
THAT ONE, UH, I SEE IT'S 18, 18 FEET ONE INCH AND 25 9.
IF WE JUST TAKE 18 BY 25, THAT'S 450 SQUARE FEET.
IS THAT WITHIN, I THOUGHT IT WAS A 400 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT FOR A 7,800 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
SO IT WOULD BE 400 SQUARE FEET TO 800 SQUARE FEET, OR 400 SQUARE FEET TO 33% OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE, WHICHEVER IS SMALLER.
AND DO WE HAVE MAIN STRUCTURE SQUARE FOOTAGE? UH, UH, WE CHECKED THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
I'M SURE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 20, 2800 SQUARE FOOT.
SO IT WOULD BE LESS THAN 33% IF IT'S 2,800.
I'M, I'M GUESSING I'LL LOOK UP, UH, DEBBIE CAT.
I KNOW WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE PACKET.
UM, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, IT WAS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2,500 AND UNDER 3000 SQUARE FEET.
BUT, BUT ALSO IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ALSO MM-HMM
WHERE THE SINGLE STORY IS, AND IT'S BUILT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRO I I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S BUILT OVER THE, A BUILDING LINE, BUT ALSO THEY'VE POURED CONCRETE AROUND THAT.
WHICH IS, HAS EVEN TAKEN IT FURTHER OUT INTO THE EASEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.
WELL, I, I SHOULD SAY THE HOUSE WAS BUILT WITHIN THE, IT GOES OVER THE EASEMENT OR THE BUILT, WELL, IT'S THE BUILDING LINE.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF CONCRETE.
I, FOR ONE, WOULD WANT A DRAINAGE STUDY DONE ON THIS BEFORE I APPROVE IT.
PAGE 32, HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM, DO A DRAINAGE STUDY.
COMMISSIONERS, JUST, UH, FOR AWARENESS.
IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 32, THAT INFORMATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
OH, IN THE PACKET, IS IT UHHUH?
AND 33% OF THAT MAIN LOT SITE, OR SORRY, THE MAIN HOUSE AREA THAT'S JUST OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET IS GOING TO BE 665 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT IT'S, IT'S IN THAT 33%.
IT ALSO, IT'S LIKE I KNEW IT WAS IN THERE.
THAT SAYS ON THAT SAME PAGE, TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA, LIVING AREA IN CONCRETE IS 68.7%.
IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER? MM-HMM
68.7% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE LOSS.
I'M JUST READING FROM THE DOCUMENT.
AND I GUESS MY FINAL COMMENT IS, UH, REGARDING THE ONE WE LOOKED AT LAST MONTH, MY OPINION, THEY DID IT RIGHT.
THEY ASKED PERMISSION, THEY GOT EVERYTHING, THEY GOT ALL THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, AND THEN THEY ASKED FOR THE SUP.
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THE OTHER WAY AROUND, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM THEN? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.4.
WELL, I WILL MOVE TO DISAPPROVE.
RECOMMEND DISAPPROVING, RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM 4.4.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? REAL, REAL, REAL QUICK.
UM, I, I'M, I GUESS I'M HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ZBA ITEMS AND THIS SUP, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A PERMIT I SAW IN THIS PACKET.
MAYBE I'M CONFUSING AGENDA ITEMS. THERE WAS NO SUP IN HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, STAFF? CORRECT? MM-HMM
WHAT? ASHLEY SAID THERE'S NO PERMIT.
WELL, ON, ON 4.4, THERE'S NO SUP PERMIT LISTED IN THE PACKET IS, IT'S THE SUP REQUEST.
BUT DID THERE, IS THERE ANY PERMIT REQUESTS FROM THE HOMEOWNER? NO.
I I, I'M GETTING SOMETHING CONFUSED WITH ANOTHER ENGINE ITEM.
UM, NO, NO, NO FURTHER QUESTION.
SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM OR ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
NEXT IS ITEM 4.5 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE FIVE, FINAL PLAT, 36.574 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 172 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.
THIS PROPOSED FINAL PLAT IS OUT OF, UH, DALE WALKER, PHASE FIVE.
IT CONSISTS OF 172 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS.
UH, AGAIN IS AND IS LOCATED WITHIN, UH, LYDELL WALKER SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 1 32 AND WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT CONSISTS OF JUST A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL LOTS, 24 OPEN SPACE DRAINAGE LOTS, UH, AND TWO AMENITY LOTS.
UH, THIS TRACK WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021 AND WAS ZONED SF ONE, UH, VILLAGE ZONING.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, IT'S ALL DALE WALKER, WHICH IS THAT SF ONE OR SINGLE FAMILY, UM, VILLAGE ZONING.
THE SITE'S LOCATED WITHIN THE MUSTANG CREEK SUB WATERSHED AND BRUSHY CREEK WATERSHED.
UH, WASTEWATER SERVICE IS TO BE PROVIDED, UH, BY THE CITY OF HODO.
IT'S ANTICIPATED, UM, THAT THE WATERSHED WILL CONVEY TO THE EXISTING MUSTANG CREEK LIFT STATION, THEN TO THE SOUTH REGIONAL, UH, WASTEWATER TREAT PLANT.
AND THE WATER SERVICE IS GONNA BE PROVIDED BY JONAH.
UM, THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS, UM, APPROVED AT THE FIRST READING IN SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2021, WHICH ALLOWED FOR, UM, REDUCTIONS IN WAIVERS.
UH, THE FINAL PLOT IS SUBJECT TO HOUSE BILL 31 67 APPROVAL, OR THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL.
UM, THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS, UH, REMAINING, UH, OF COURSE WITH THE APPLICANT NOT, UM, WAIVING THE SHOT CLOCK.
UM, IT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL TO TONIGHT IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU DO HAVE, UM, THE ENTIRE, UM, PLOT THERE FOR YOUR VIEWING.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, SINCE IT, IT IS SUBJECT TO THE SHOT CLOCK, UH, STAFF IS RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL PER STATE LAW.
I HAVE A, A, A, UH, GENERAL QUESTION.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK, UH, ALA UH, UH, ANOTHER ONE? THERE
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YOU GO.IT SAYS, UH, WASTEWATER SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF HU.
IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT WA WASTEWATER WILL CONVEY TO THE EXISTING MUSTANG CREEK LIFT STATION AND THEN BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
IS THE MUSTANG CREEK LIFT STATION LARGE ENOUGH OR CAPABLE EXACTLY RIGHT TO HANDLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? IF IT'S NOT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE WILLING TO PAY TO INCREASE IT TO WHERE IT WILL BE? THEY WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE IT.
I'VE NE I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S ALL THINGS AT ENGINEERING TRACKS WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PILOT VIEW IS HOW MANY LU ARE GOING THROUGH THAT, UM, FOR ANY LIFT STATION AND ARE THEY AT CAPACITY? ARE THEY UNDER CAPACITY OR ARE THERE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN OKAY.
TO THOSE LIFT STATIONS TO BE ABLE TO PUMP THROUGH THE SYSTEM? I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
UM, FIRST ONE IS THEY WAIVED THE TIA THAT WE CAN'T UNDO.
I I KNOW IT'S WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT, BUT OKAY, WHATEVER.
SO NOW IT'S LEFT TO THE CITY TO UNSCREW WHATEVER THEY DO.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY JUST, UH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT PAGE, UH, 61, THE LOVELY COLOR MAP.
AND IT LOOKS FROM, LOOKS LIKE FROM THE CITY'S COMMENTS THAT THEY LIKE ADDING POIS AND ADDING SOME ACREAGE, WHICH MEANS, UH, UP AT THE TOP IT SAYS NEW POIS HAVE BEEN ADDED.
WHAT'S POI? IS THAT THE ACRONYM? POINT OF POINT, POINT OF WHAT'S POI, THE ACRONYM.
POI FOUR, PO POINT OF P OI, I FI INTERSECTION.
I DON'T KNOW
I DON'T EITHER POINT AS PART OF THE DRAINAGE INFORMATION.
'CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS PART OF THE OVERALL, UM, DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO THIS IS JUST ONE MORE THING THAT HAD COMMENTS ON IT.
SO WE ALWAYS ATTACH IT, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR STATUTORY APPROVAL BECAUSE THESE COMMENTS WERE DUE THE SAME DAY THAT THE PACKET WENT OUT.
THIS WOULD'VE TO BE RESUBMITTED AND THEN CLEAR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
AND, AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I, I AM VERY CONCERNED WITH IS THE BOTTOM COMMENT.
UH, PROPERTY SHAPE HAS CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS APPROVED REPORT AND APPEARS TO BE ADDITIONAL ACRES.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT? AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE? RED.
IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR BOUNDARIES RIGHT.
I'M NOT INCLINED TO APPROVE, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ME.
COULD, COULD THEY HAVE POSSIBLY PURCHASED MORELAND FROM THE LAST TIME? BUT THEY SHOULD DEFINITELY GO THROUGH THE CITY TO WELL, THEY SHOULD, BUT, SO YEAH.
HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? ANYTHING? WELL, I JUST, I GUESS I JUST HAVE A GENERAL SHOT CLOCK QUESTION.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE BILL.
I, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? 13 63, 1 67 MM-HMM
BUT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF INCOMPLETENESS OR ERRORS OR WHATEVER, EXCUSE ME, IN THIS, UH, ITEM.
BUT IT'S A SHOCK CLOCK THERE TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE ALL TAKEN CARE OF IN A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEN THEY HAVE TIME TO GO BACK AND FIX IT.
I JUST DON'T UNDER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, JUST A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE SHOCK CLOCK.
US BEING RECOMMENDED TO DENY THIS AT THIS TIME.
SO THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO BY STATE LAW.
IT WAS H HOUSE BILL 30, 31 67.
31 67, AND THEN THE REDONE BY 34 3 6 9 9 36 9 9.
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SO ESSENTIALLY WE JUST CALL THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL.WHAT IT BASICALLY SAID IS FOUR PLATS.
YOU EITHER HAVE TO APPROVE, DENY, OR APPROVE OF CONDITIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS.
THOSE ARE YOUR ONLY OPTIONS, RIGHT? IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WAIVE THAT PROVISION AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE FOR DENIAL, RIGHT? UM, ESSENTIALLY STAFF REVIEWS.
IF WE HAVE TOO MANY CONCERNS TO BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, WE RECOMMEND DENIAL.
RIGHT? AND IT'S ALL JUST BASED ON, SO IT'S BASICALLY TO KEEP THINGS GOING EFFICIENTLY.
AND IF THINGS ARE REALLY, THERE WAS A COMPLAIN STATE THAT WE NEED TO STOP THIS AND START OVER OR GET THINGS GOING RIGHT, WHICH I AGREE WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4.5.
MOTION TO ACCEPT AGENDA ITEM 4.5 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF SECOND.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT IS TO DENY, DENY DISAPPROVE.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SHEET.
SHE'S, SHE'S READY TO GO HOME HERE.
SO, UH, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART TO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OR TO DISAPPROVE THE, UH, DISAPPROVE ITEM 4.5.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DISAPPROVE 4.5 SAYS TO DENY.
SO IF WE'RE DISAPPROVING THE DENY NO, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MAKE YOUR MOTION TO ACCEPT 4.5? THAT'S WHAT I DID AS, AS WRITTEN.
THAT'S WHAT I DID TO NOT, OKAY.
I WANT A MOTION FOR 4.5, LET AS PRESENTED.
COMMISSIONER MORRIS MADE THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER STEWART SECONDED THE MOTION TO ACCEPT 4.5 AS PRESENTED.
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTOOD IT WAS A DISAPPROVAL.
THAT WOULD BE DURING THE DISCUSSION.
THAT WOULD BE DURING DISCUSSION.
OKAY, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE TO, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
THE COMMISSIONERS, THIS WILL, UM, END UP HAVING TO GO OFF IN AN EMAIL JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE POSTED.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CODES OF ENGINEERING MANUAL ARE POSTED ONLINE UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION OF THE WEBSITE FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THAT SAID, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK.
WE ARE LOOKING WITH A CONSULTANT AT A DIFFERENT, UM, POSTING FORMAT SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GAIN ALL THOSE.
WE ARE LEAVING THAT OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK.
IT HAS BEEN SENT UP TO, UM, A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES THAT HAVE ASKED TO SEE A COPY OF IT AS WELL AS LIKE THE HOME VILLAGE ASSOCIATION AND SOME REALTORS AND OTHER THINGS.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT ALSO IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE EMMANUEL OR MANNY HERNANDEZ.
HE IS OUR NEWEST PLANNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT FILLING OUT THE TEAM AND HE'S
YEAH, WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.
MY, MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU SAY BOTH THE BILLING, THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AND THE UDC? YES.
WE ARE GOING TO BE PROBABLY PULLING IT OFF HOURS AND REDIRECTING TO THE CONSULTANTS PAGE THAT THEY'RE SETTING UP, JUST SO THAT THEY CAN TRACK THOSE, UM, COMMENTS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT IT'S, TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING AND WE PUT THOSE UP.
AND THAT'S ON THE, THE, THE, THE MAIN PAGE.
UM, IT IS ON THE, IF YOU GO INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UNDER DEVELOPMENT CODES, YOU'LL SEE IT.
OR YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE
UM, OTHERWISE WE DO HAVE ALL OF OUR CALENDARS ONLINE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND THOSE OUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY BUSY YEAR.
UH, WE JUST GOT THE CALENDAR YEAR REVENUES.
WE WERE OVER A MILLION MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE FOR THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR IN REVENUES.
SO YOU'RE JUST MAKING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE CITY, AREN'T YOU? CALL ME MONEYMAKERS.
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS EVERYONE'S GOING TO A PH
RIGHT? SO CERTAINLY, UM, JUST EXPECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES AND THEN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT UDC.
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IS IN THERE.
THE LANDSCAPING SECTION LOOKS REALLY
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GOOD.UH, WE DID SOME CALCULATIONS BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD HEARD THAT WERE CONCERNS ON THAT LANDSCAPING CHAPTER THAT'S AS ADOPTED RIGHT NOW IN COMPARISON.
AND IT DOES REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WE HAVE.
SO EVEN FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND SOME OF THE EXISTING, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK CAVAL WAS ONE OF THEM.
IT LOOKED LIKE POTENTIALLY THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY JUST DO THE TREES BY CODE.
AND UM, IT ALSO HAS SOME REALLY INTERESTING KIND OF POINT SYSTEM ITEMS IN THERE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE WITH IT.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE EXPERIMENTING WITH WITH INCHES OF TREES.
IT GIVES YOU A, A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE'S DEFINITELY LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY TREES OR YOU GET A POINT FOR EACH TREE, BUT YOU ALSO CAN GET EXTRA POINTS FOR MORE STORM WATER COLLECTION, UM, TO AVOID MORE POTABLE WATER IRRIGATION.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A REUSE SYSTEM, THERE WERE A LOT OF OPTIONS WITHIN THAT LIST.
ONCE WE GET THAT OTHER LINK, I WILL BE SENDING THAT OUT.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS ALREADY ONLINE.
UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO SEND IT OUT AGAIN AND WE ARE LEAVING IT OPEN SO IT IS A LITTLE DELAYED.
BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GIVEN, UM, RESIDENTS IN ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, THE ABILITY TO SEE THIS AND ACTUALLY COMMENT AND DIGEST SUCH LARGE DOCUMENTS.
I I, OFF MY MEMORY, I THINK IT WAS FIRST OR END OF, TOWARDS THE END OF THE FIRST WEEK OR MAYBE EVEN THE SECOND WEEK OF DECEMBER WHEN I SAW THE EMAIL COME ACROSS, I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'M OVER.
AND THAT'S, I'M OVERWHELMED BY EVENTS AT THIS POINT.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT IT IS OUT THERE.
UM, SO HOPING THAT WE WOULD BE BACK THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO STILL HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE.
UM, SO THAT REALLY PUTS US INTO END OF FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH FOR THE ACTUAL FORMAL RECOMMENDATION.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'LL GET ALL OF THIS IN EMAIL AND THAT'S ALL I GOT FROM YOU.
ARE WE UP AGAINST THE TIME FOR ANYTHING PRESSING REALLY BAD? JUST MY OWN DESIRE TO GET THIS THING TALKED TO
I MEAN IT REALLY IS JUST, I'D LIKE TO GET IT DONE.
I THINK THE CONSULTANTS WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DONE, BUT WE WANNA DO IT FAIRLY.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAVE THE FINALS COMING THROUGH AT THE HOLIDAYS, WE WERE NOT GOING TO JUST GO, OH, WELL NOBODY MADE A COMMENT AND LET'S JUST GO FORWARD.
OH, ASHLEY, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS FOR YOU.
UM, I RECEIVED A MEETING INVITE FOR THIS THURSDAY, JANUARY 9TH TO ATTEND A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH STEEPLECHASE VENTURES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENDED TO COME TO ME OR NOT.
NO, WE SHOULD HAVE INVITED SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO YEAH, SOMEBODY'S MISSING FROM YOUR INVITE.
IF I'M ON IT, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE, UM, WHERE I GET EMAILS FROM THE CITY THAT I'M NOT INTENDED TO GET.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I, THEY'RE IN THE SYSTEM.
SO SOMEBODY IS MEANING SOMEBODY ELSE NAMED CHERYL STEWART NEEDS TO GET THESE ADVICE
SO YEAH, IF YOU COULD GET THAT FIXED, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, ARE Y'ALL ATTENDING THAT EVENT ON THE, I THINK IT'S THE 25TH IF SATURDAY'S THE 25TH? YES.
WITH THE BUILD WITH THE BOARDING COMMISSIONS THAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME LIKE I GOT THREE HEADS.
RICK, YOU DON'T REMEMBER THIS? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING EITHER.
I GOT AN, I GOT A, I GOT AN INVITE.
I GOT, I DON'T REMEMBER CALENDAR INVITE WHO SENT IT? I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL SEEING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT WE HAD AT NA.
THIS, IT'S AT COTTONWOOD CREEK ELEMENTARY ON THE 25TH.
THE ONLY INVITEES ARE EDWARD VILLE.
KYLE J PARKINSON, LORI BROWN DUNCAN.
THE REASON WHY WE GOT IT, THE REASON WHY JIM AND I GOT IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO ON ETHICS AND I THINK WE RECEIVED IT FROM THE CITY SECRETARY, LAURIE BROWN'S ON ETHICS.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE KNOW ABOUT IT.
BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE SAME THING WHERE THERE'S LITTLE TABLES LIKE BEFORE.
OH, WELL, SO AT COTTONWOOD CREEK THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATE BEFORE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT.
SO I SEE THAT IT, IT CAME OUT FROM THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH KATE IF WE ARE MISSING ANYTHING ON BOARD.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT US THERE.
I THAT'S DOESN'T COST TOO MUCH TROUBLE.
YOU'RE NOT STARTING THAT WITH THE NUMBER OF BOARDS THAT I'M ON.
I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT FROM SOMEONE.
UM, COMMISSIONER STEWART? YES, MA'AM.
DID YOU SAY IT WAS ON THE NINTH? THE, THE NINTH IS THE MEETING INVITE THAT I GOT IN AIR AND IT IS, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
MEETING IT IS AT 9:00 AM A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH STEEPLECHASE VENTURES.
WHAT TIME IS IT? 9:00 AM THAT'S INTERESTING.
YOU ARE NOT SHOWN ON THE INVITE LIST.
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ME SHOW YOU WHAT I HAVE.REALLY? BUT NOT ANY OF YOU THREE.
THIS IS THE EX-WIFE CHROMOSOMES.
LOOK, ANGEL DIDN'T, AND THEN SHE INVITED.
NO, THEY JUST KNEW INVITING ME WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.
OH, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
I DON'T, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING SHE'S, SHE'S NOT ACTUALLY SENDING IT.
DID Y'ALL, DID Y'ALL WHAT? DID Y'ALL FIND IT WEIRD THAT THE WEIRD HOMEOWNER DIDN'T SPEAK? CAN YOU FORWARD THAT? THAT WASN'T HOLD, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
WE'RE EVEN SHOWING UP ON OUR CALENDARS.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.
UM, THE, UH, NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED THE FOURTH, FIRST TUESDAY OF FEBRUARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY, DO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING? NO, NOT YET.
ON THE 21ST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE KNOW OF.
UM, SO THE 25TH IS THE ALL BOARDS MEETING THAT? YES.
AND I THINK, LET ME PULL UP THE EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED.
I THINK IT'S STARTING AT 9:00 AM AND IT GOES, IT'S NINE TO NOON IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT I, LET ME FIND THAT EMAIL.
IS THAT COTTONWOOD CREEK? EL COTTONWOOD ELEMENTARY? YEAH.
I'M PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW, Y'ALL.
YEAH, BUT I GOT, YEAH, IT'S STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT COTTONWOOD CREEK ELEMENTARY, SATURDAY, JANUARY 25TH FROM NINE TO NOON.
AND YOU'RE GONNA DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
YEAH, THAT I FIGURED ONE OF, ONE OF MY BOARDS WOULD'VE WELL, YEAH.
I'M ON THE OTHER, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE OTHER BOARD I'M ON RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, IS, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ALRIGHT THEN LET US ADJOURN THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:08 PM GAVEL.