15.1. Receive legal advice pursuant to Texas Government Code Sec. 551.071, (Consultation with Attorney), related to: a) possible amendments to the Sales Tax Sharing Agreement with Emergency Services District (ESD) 3..

[15.1. Receive legal advice pursuant to Texas Government Code Sec. 551.071, (Consultation with Attorney), related to: a) possible amendments to the Sales Tax Sharing Agreement with Emergency Services District (ESD) 3..]

MAYOR PRO TEM , YES IF THERE'S NO COME OBJECTIONS FROM COUNCIL THAT WE MOVE ITEM 15 ONE UP NEXT AND HOLD IT IN OPEN SESSION.

HEARING NO OBJECTIONS , WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 15.1, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5.11 071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY , RELATED TO A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO THE SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT YESTERDAY THREE. GOOD

AFTERNOON, SIR. >> COUNSELING MAYOR, I'M HERE BE AT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY ESD THREE, WE SERVE THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY , AS WE HAVE SINCE 2000. PRIOR TO THAT YOU ARE SERVED BY THE HUTTO COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. ESD WAS SURPRISED AND CONCERNED THAT THERE WILL -- THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THE SHARED SALES TAX BETWEEN ESD AND THE CITY. TRUE COMMUNITY PARTNERS WOULD'VE NOTIFIED US THAT THIS WAS GOING ON. ESD IS ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE SALES TAX AGREEMENT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION , THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THAT THERE IS NO LAW THAT REQUIRES THE ESD TO SHARE SALES TAX WITH YOU. LET ME REPEAT THAT. THERE IS NO LAW THAT REQUIRES THE ESD TO SHARE SALES TAX WITH YOU. THE ESD IS DOING THIS BECAUSE IT IS SEES THE BENEFIT TO BOTH THE ESD AND THE CITY OF HUTTO. I WILL REMIND COUNCIL ALSO THAT THE SALES TAX WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF HUTTO IN 2016 , MY OVER 70%. THAT VOTE OCCURRED BEFORE SOME OF YOU EVEN LIVED IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. ESD PROMISED TO USE THE MONEY TO BUILD FIRE STATIONS , PURCHASE FIRE TRUCKS AND HIRE FIREFIGHTERS. THIS IS WHAT THE ESD HAS DONE. THIS IS HOW THE CITY OF HUTTO BENEFITS FROM AN ISO , AN ISO ONE RATING. SO, TO PUT IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITHOUT NOTIFICATION, AN AGENDA ITEM ON SALES TAX SHARING IS QUITE DISAPPOINTING. IT MAKES THE ESD QUESTION WHETHER PARTNERSHIP IN THESE AGREEMENTS ARE STILL THE RIGHT THING. I WILL ALSO REMIND COUNCIL THAT IT WAS THE ACTIONS OF A PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL TO DEFUND FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO HAD AGREED TO FUND AND THAT IS NOW WHY THE ESD HAS THE SALES TAX. WILLIAMSON COUNTY , ESD NUMBER THREE WAS TOLD BY THE CITY OF HUTTO, GO FIND YOUR OWN MONEY, SO, WE DID. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO WILL BE WORKING WITH THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE IN THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR ESD TO GIVE SALES TAX MONEY TO THE CITY. JUST SO THIS ESD IS TOTALLY TRANSPARENT , EXCUSE ME, JUST SO THE ESD IS TOTALLY TRANSPARENT , WE WILL BE WORKING TO STOP ANY OF THIS LEGISLATION . WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR DISTRICT 52 REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR STATE LOBBYIST TO KILL ANY BILL ABROAD BEFORE THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE , REQUIRING ESD SALES AND USE TAX TO GO TO A CITY. AGAIN, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, ESD NUMBER THREE HAS AGREED TO SHARE THE SALES TAX , BUT NOW THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THIS WAS THE PRUDENT THING TO DO , WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE SALES TAX IN THE PAST AND WILL WORK WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO , IN GOOD FAITH TO REACH FUTURE AGREEMENTS WHERE IT BENEFITS THE ESD.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> FOR THIS ITEM HERE, CITY MANAGER OR I DON'T KNOW IF OUR EDC REP IS HERE, I THINK I SEE HER IN THE BACK. MAYBE ONE OF YOU CAN GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL OF WHY IT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, SO WE CAN HELP MAYBE CLEAR THE AIR WITH ESD. I THINK THERE ARE

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SOME ASSUMPTIONS BEING MADE THAT MAYBE WE CAN JUST KIND OF , KIND OF DISCUSS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, -- DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE RECORD. THIS ITEM IS BEING DISCUSSED BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THE ESD SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL THERE WAS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THAT WE ALSO EXPLORE AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO GRANDFATHER IN EXISTING INCENTIVES ON AFFECTED PROPERTIES. THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN ONGOING WITH CHIEF AND ASSISTANT CHIEF AND A FEW MEETINGS, AT THIS POINT STAFF FEELS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ABOUT ANY OTHER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS MADE , BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH ESD THREE LEADERSHIP AND SO , THAT IS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS . WE WERE ADVISED BY LEGAL COUNCIL THAT BECAUSE IT IS A NEGOTIATION IT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ABOUT WHICH ROUTE TO PURSUE AS FAR AS THE SALES TAX SHARING STRUCTURE PERCENTAGES , THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND AREAS OF TOWN PERHAPS, ALL OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE COVERED UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THAT DIRECTION WILL BE EXECUTED STEP-BY-STEP IN PARTNERSHIP

WITH ESD THREE. >> IF I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN IT IS THAT , A YEAR OR TWO AGO THE AGREEMENT, GUESTS EXPIRED , IF I REMEMBER RIGHT THE POSITION NONE OF ESD WAS , I THINK WE GOT A LETTER THAT SAID THE AGREEMENT HAS EXPIRED AND WE ARE NOT SHARING SALES TAX ANYMORE, OR SOMETHING, IS THAT

SOMEWHAT CLOSE? >> THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME BUT I WILL DEFER TO COUNCIL. YOU ALL WERE A PART OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AT THAT TIME AND I WAS NOT.

>> I THINK THE ONLY CONCERN OF THE COUNCIL WAS THAT IF WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WHEN WE SAID, HEY , WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 100% OF YOUR SALES TAX BACK AND WE ENTERED INTO THAT AGREEMENT WHEN THERE WAS A SHARE AGREEMENT IN PLACE , THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS IN THE PAST AND THE FUTURE , WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF WE DON'T WANT TO PROMISE SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY AND THEN AN AGREEMENT CHANGES OR SOMETHING HAPPENS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GO BACK TO SAY, I KNOW WE SAID WERE GOING TO SHARE IT BUT 60% OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER, WE CANNOT GIVE ANY MORE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING, RIGHT?

>> YES. THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH ESD THREE AND THEIR LEADERSHIP TEAM TO DISCUSS WHAT THOSE POSSIBILITIES WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW COULD WE ACCOMMODATE THOSE EXISTING AGREEMENTS OR POTENTIAL FUTURE AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE THE COMMITMENTS THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ED BEUSE EDC PARTICIPATES IN THE SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT COMPONENT OF ANY INCENTIVE, HOW COULD WE ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO EXECUTE AND FULFILL THOSE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE PARTIES THAT WOULD ALSO BE IMPACTED BY THE SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT , IN SUMMARY, YES.

>> ANY MEETINGS YOU'VE HAD WITH ANYBODY, HAVE YOU OR JAMES MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUNDING OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT?

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. >> THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING, TO HEAR THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT , PEOPLE GET CONFUSED ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER IS DOING AND SO, WE HEAR THAT SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT DEFUNDING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION, SETTING

THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. >> CORRECT AND THE CHIEF SPOKE

TO THAT. >> AND THE CHIEF IS RIGHT, I DID NOT LIVE HERE WHEN WHOEVER WAS TRYING TO DEFUND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THEY DON'T WANT SIGNS POPPING UP EVERYWHERE ABOUT EVERYONE TRYING TO DEFUND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE NOT. OKAY.

>> IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE CORRECT INFORMATION. TALK ABOUT AN AGREEMENT THAT EXPIRED AND THE ESD SAID WE ARE OUT OF THE AGREEMENT, WE ARE NOT DOING IT. THAT IS INCORRECT INFORMATION.

HAD SOMEONE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED AND SAID, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? I AM THERE EVERY DAY , THE BOARD PRESIDENT WAS THERE AND WE COULD HAVE ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS . SO, THERE IS CURRENTLY , LET ME BACK UP. WHEN ALL OF THIS STARTED THERE WAS ONE LEGALLY ADOPTED SALES AND USE TAX AGREEMENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE OTHER TWO AGREEMENTS , THE FIRST ONE WAS FOR THE PERFECT GAME PROJECT, THAT PROJECT WENT

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AWAY , SO, AS A RESULT OF THAT THE SALES AND USE TAX WENT AWAY. THE THIRD ONE WAS EXECUTED BY YOUR CITY MANAGER , THIS IS PRIOR TO JAMES , IT NEVER CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, IT WAS STUCK IN A DESK DRAWER AND ASSUMED THAT COUNCIL HAD APPROVED. OUR ATTORNEY SPENT TIME WORKING WITH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH LEGAL FIRM , WHEN WE FOUND ALL OF THIS OUT. SO, THE LETTER THAT WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH I THINK WAS LIKE HIS THIRD DAY ON THE JOB WAS AT THOSE TWO AGREEMENTS DO NOT EXIST, THEY WERE NEVER LEGALLY EXECUTED BY COUNCIL . ESD DID BUT COUNCIL DID NOT. BUT ALSO, THE ESD WAS WILLING TO RE-ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS, THAT IS WHERE THE CURRENT, OTHER THAN TITAN , THAT IS WHERE THE OTHER CURRENT SALES AND USE TAX

AGREEMENT CAME INTO PLACE. >> SIR, I AGREE, COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE BETTER AND WHEN THE LETTER CAME OUT IF WE HAD QUESTIONS WE COULD'VE CALLED AS YOU SUGGESTED.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> BUT I PROPOSE THIS, BEFORE YOU SEND A LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER ON HIS THIRD DAY OF THE JOB, WOULDN'T IT BEHOOVE YOU TO HAVE MAYBE REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM OR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SAY, WE HAVE THIS SITUATION, CAN WE ADDRESS IT? COMMUNICATION WORKS BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? WE COULD COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH YOU AND YOU COULD ALSO MAYBE COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH US AND SAY, HEY, MIKE, DID YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE THIS ISSUE? BECAUSE I CANNOT PUT MYSELF IN THE CITY MANAGER'S SHOES ON THE THIRD DAY OF HIS JOB, HE GETS A LETTER AND IT IS LIKE, HEY, THIS AGREEMENT IS INVALID AND SO FORTH, HERE'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN, WE ARE OPEN TO NEGOTIATIONS. 30 ON THE JOB, IT IS ALMOST LIKE YOU HAVE A NINE ALARM FIRE , HE'S GOING TO GO DOWN ONE ROUTE, I THINK THE LESSON LEARNED HERE IS THAT WE ALL GOT TO WORK TO COMMUNICATE.

>> WE DO BUT ACTUALLY, MAYOR, THAT LETTER WAS DRAFTED BY OUR ATTORNEY TO GO TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH OUR ATTORNEY WE FELT THAT IT WAS BEST TO JUST PUT MY SIGNATURE ON IT AND GO FROM ADMINISTRATOR TO ADMINISTRATOR.

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY IN ANY FUTURE LETTERS TO COME, WE CAN HAVE IT COME STRAIGHT FROM OUR ATTORNEY AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING COMING OUT OF OUR OFFICE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR PARTNERS TO WORK. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO DIG TO GET THE INFORMATION ON THE SALES AND USE TAX AGREEMENTS. LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE STUCK IN DRAWERS. THEY WERE NEVER EXECUTED AND WHEN OUR ATTORNEY WENT RESEARCHING IT HE KEPT HITTING ROADBLOCK AFTER ROADBLOCK. SO, YES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO IT TWO WAYS BUT IT HAS TO TRULY BE TWO WAYS.

>> SO, THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH ESD THREE, WHAT IS THE EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE RECENTLY ADDRESSED BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES AMICABLY ? WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS TO JUST CONTINUE ON OR IS THERE AN END DATE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A LEGAL

QUESTION OR MAYBE YOU KNOW. >> THERE IS, THERE IS AN END

DATE OF 10 YEARS. ALSO . >> THAT WAS RECENTLY RENEWED?

>> NO, THERE IS NOTHING WE HAD TO RENEW BECAUSE TITAN WAS ALREADY IN PLACE. THIS OTHER SALES TAX AGREEMENT WAS RE-DONE AND THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY SIGNED AND WE HAVE NOT REACHED

ANY EXPIRATION >> THE CITY AND ESD THREE WERE CONTINUING TO SHARE SALES TAX, AS NEGOTIATED INITIALLY IS WHAT WAS VOTED ON AS THE AGREEMENT , CORRECT?

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED THE LETTER , CHIEF? IS

THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? >> WHICH PART, SIR?

>> THIS IS COMING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE OUTSET THAT SAID THAT WE WOULD CEASE TO BE DOING THAT SALES TAX SHARING AND BECAUSE OF THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING

NEGOTIATION? >> NO. WE DID NOT GET A LETTER FROM THE CITY . WHAT WE TRIED TO GET WAS THE STATUS OF ALL THE SALES TAX AGREEMENTS. THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL CHANGES AND SEVERAL CHANGES IN CHIEF EXECUTIVES AND WE NEEDED

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TO HANDLE ON WHAT WAS GOING ON OF THESE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE I'M SURE SOME OF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS IN THERE, I'M SURE I'M SURE CITY MANAGER -- DOES NOW BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS DUG DOWN INTO THE WEEDS TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THEM? WE HAD A ROADBLOCK WITH THE LAW FIRM BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT WE TURNED IT OVER TO THE ATTORNEY.

THE ATTORNEY RAN INTO A ROADBLOCK AND CAME TO THE BOARD AND SAID, WE ONLY HAVE ONE LEGALLY ACTIVE AGREEMENT. THE OTHER TWO THAT YOU NEGOTIATED WAS NEVER ACTED ON.

>> BUT SINCE THEN WE DID ENACT A NEW ONE AND THAT IS IN PLACE.

AND THE ONLY THING AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC , YOU IDENTIFIED THAT AND THEN OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE GOT THAT DONE AND THAT GOT EXECUTED. THE ONLY THING IT WAS, HEY, WE ALSO WANT TO GO BACK BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS TO CREATE AN AMENDMENT TO COVER SOME OF THESE OTHER LARGER AGREEMENTS THAT THE EDC AND THE CITY HAS MADE BECAUSE OF THE EXPIRATION DATE, THEY COULD OVERLAP AND WE WANT UNDERSTANDING ON THAT AND IT SEEMS LIKE AS WE HAVE DIRECTED STAFF, AS COUNCIL , WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT HAS THE FINAL SAY. WHEN IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE ADMINISTRATORS ARE COMING UP AND ASKING, WHICH WAY DO YOU WANT ME TO GO, SHE WAS JUST COMING TO ASK, YOU KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IS AN INAPPROPRIATE THING TO GET HER SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING DONE OUT HERE AND IT IS NOT DETERMINING AN AGREEMENT, THAT WAS NEVER ON THE WINDOW OF COUNCIL. IT WAS, CAN WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT SO WE ARE PROTECT DID? AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED EARLIER ON SOMEBODY'S TENURE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE ON MEGA SITES AND OTHER LOCATIONS THAT MAY BE COMING UP OR ALREADY BEING

EXECUTED. >> COUNCILMEMBER, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE YOU CAN WITH THE IDEA THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT. SOMEWHERE IN ALL OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT IS A NEW IDEA THAT CAME UP. LET ME ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CHENEY, WE WORKED AT AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL BUT BEFORE ANYTHING WAS TO GO TO COUNCIL , OR THE ESD BOARD, WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT FINAL THINGS THAT WE COULD AGREE ON. SO, WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE SAME VOICE .

CHENEY DID NOT DO THAT . I'M SORRY, SHE NEVER GOT BACK WITH US AND SAID, HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE, ARE YOU GUYS IN AGREEMENT WITH IT? AND WE GO, YES, LET'S GO FORWARD TO BOTH ENTITIES.

AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO THAT COMMUNICATION PIECE.

>> BUT AT SOME POINT IF SHE WANTS TO GET GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL BEFORE SHE SAYS THESE ARE THE POINTS REALLY REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, CAN YOU GET HERE AND GO BACK IN A NEGOTIATION LEVEL TO YOU, I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN

INAPPROPRIATE STATEMENT, SIR. >> I LIKE TO SECOND COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, STAFF WORKS FOR US, THE CITY MANAGER WORKS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE AT ESD AND MAYBE A DIFFERENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT BUT ON THIS SIDE I CAN ASSURE YOU AND THE PUBLIC THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MINUTE ANYBODY WRITES A LEGAL LETTER AND SEND IT FROM ONE ATTORNEY TO ANOTHER, YOU'VE JUST MADE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. IF YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT HE SHOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE ELECTED PEOPLE. LIVE IN HUTTO, WE SEE IN RESTAURANTS AND STUFF, YOU SHOULD COMMUNICATE WITH US BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THE MINUTE YOU EVER SEND A LEGAL DEMAND FOR ANY KIND OF LEGAL NOTICE WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO UNDERSTAND FROM OUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT IS OUR OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT WORKS AND OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT MAY WORK DIFFERENTLY THAN ESD'S BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE SENT TO THEM UNTIL WE GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DON'T KNOW THE CONVERSATION THAT CHENEY IS GOING TO HAVE UNTIL WE GO BACK AND SHE IS LOOKING FOR NEGOTIATING AND POSSIBLE LEGAL ADVICE. THAT IS WHERE CITY ATTORNEY COMES EVERY MEETING. I DO NOT THINK ANYBODY IS TRYING TO FOOL ANYBODY, WE COULD COMMUNICATE BETTER DEFINITELY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, CHIEF KERR WOOD, THE ESD BOARD , WE ARE AT A POINT IN NEGOTIATIONS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT IS A LESSON LEARNED THERE BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT CHENEY DID ANYTHING WRONG AND I AM THE FIRST ONE TO FOLLOW AN EMPLOYEE OVER ANYTHING BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK THE EMPLOYER DID EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TASKED THEM TO DO. AND NEGOTIATE UNDER PARAMETERS , COME BACK WITH UPDATES BECAUSE WE MAY CHANGE, WE ARE NOT

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INTERESTED IN SOME THINGS LIKE WE WERE OR WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE, ANOTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THING, CHENEY MAY WANT TO TELL US THE REASON IS ONE PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE AGREEMENT IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE PROJECT ABC OVER HERE IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT BUT YOU CANNOT KNOW ABOUT PROJECT ABC BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC CANNOT HEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE MIGHT ASSIGN NDAS LOSS TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN PUBLIC AND NOW WE HAVE DONE IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET CHENEY TO EXPLAIN TO US WHY PARTICULAR ITEM IS IMPORTANT WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TELL US ANY INFORMATION TO TELLS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT. NOBODY'S TRYING TO DO ANYTHING UNDERHANDED OR ANYTHING. WE JUST MET WITH ONE OF YOUR ESD BOARD MEMBERS, HE IS ON THE EDC AND I THINK WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME GOAL, PLEASE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE ANYTHING YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON. WE ARE PROUD OF THE WORK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES. WE ARE PROUD OF THE ISO RATING YOU'VE DONE, HER INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC.

WHEN WE HAD A POLICE DEPARTMENT , BEFORE THE MAN I LOVE THAT WE HAVE NOW, THE OLD POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT EVEN ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT ESD THREE WAS ALWAYS THERE WITH YOUR BOUNCE HOUSE AND THE STUFF YOU TAUGHT KIDS AND INTERACTIONS AND I THINK THERE IS A GREAT UNDERSTANDING AND A GREAT WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, WE GET SUED A LOT FOR DOING THINGS WITHOUT GETTING PROPER CONSULTATION. AND I THINK WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY AGREEMENTS WE ARE DOING, WE GOT SOME BIG ONES COMING AND WE DO NOT WANT TO SCREW IT UP AND FIND OURSELVES IN THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER. I THINK THAT IS ALL WE ARE

TRYING TO DO. >> THAT IS A LOT TO UNPACK AND

ADDRESS. >> THAT IS A COUNCIL MEETING.

>> WE OR POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS WHAT YOU ALL DO. I ANSWER TO A BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS , THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ARE THOSE COMMISSIONERS ARE APPOINTED AS OPPOSED TO ELECTED BY STATE LAW. THERE WAS NEVER NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON. THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH CHENEY WAS , HERE IS AN ISSUE, WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. NEGOTIATIONS WOULD NEVER GO ON BETWEEN JUST MYSELF AND CHENEY, OR MICE HEALTH AND THE CITY MANAGER. THAT IS AT THE LEVEL OF THE ESD BOARD AND THE

COUNCIL. >> NOT INTERRUPT YOU BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS. WE TELL STAFF WHAT WE WANT AND THEY NEGOTIATE. WE DON'T SIT DOWN BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR US TO NEGOTIATE WITH ESD WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL A JOINT MEETING AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE LAWS ARE DIFFERENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN BACK ME UP OR TELL ME I'M WRONG BUT IF WE ARE NEGOTIATING, I SAY ADVERSE PARTY, NOT THAT WE ARE AT ODDS BUT YOU ARE AN ADVERSE PARTY AND BY OUR LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO OPERATE, WE CANNOT BRING AN ADVERSE PARTY INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL. YOU HAVE TO BE OUT HERE AND WE HAVE TO CONSULT BACK HERE AND WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING UP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANY CLUE ARE COMING DOWN AND, AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THAT?

>> CORRECT. >> THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE REPS, WHEN YOU GUYS NEGOTIATE TO USE YOUR BOARD AND WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WE USE OUR STAFF AND IF WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE BOARD AND NOT WITH YOU THEN THAT IS AN EASY VOTE WE CAN DO THIS WE DON'T WANT TO RUFFLE YOUR FEATHERS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT GET HAULED INTO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR VIOLATING OPEN MEETING SECTOR BECAUSE WE HAD LUNCH PEOPLE IN A BACK ROOM DISCUSSED THE DEAL, I DON'T MEAN INTERRUPT YOU BUT I THINK THAT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ESD RULES, LIKE THE ICE-T HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT RULES. WE HAVE OURS AND WE LEARNED OURS THE HARD WAY BY VIOLATING MOST OF THEM A FEW YEARS AGO.

>> AGAIN, MAYOR, A LOT OF THIS HAPPENED BEFORE YOU LIVED IN THE CITY. THERE WERE JOINT MEETINGS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND ESD, THEY HAPPENED IN 2015 AT THE FIRE STATION, THEY WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS , WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES. SO, THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE ESD BOARD TO GET TOGETHER. NOT VIOLATING RULES.

>> I THINK YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT, IT IS NOT MEETING, WE ARE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU GUYS TO TALK , IN PUBLIC, TO TALK ABOUT THE REASONS WE NEED THINGS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOP PRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC WE HAVE SIGNED NDAS FOR.

I PERSONALLY SIGNED AN NDA FOR MAJOR PROJECT, WE WILL NOT DO

THAT. >> NOR DO WE ASK YOU TO.

>> -- FROM BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH YOUR BOARD UNTIL WE CAN DISCUSS HOW IT IMPACTS BASED ON THESE NDA THINGS AND WE CANNOT

DO THAT OUT HERE, PERIOD. >> BUT YOU CAN ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHETHER IT IS A 60% SPLIT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

>> THAT WAS NOT THE ARGUMENT, WE HAD THAT AGREEMENT THE

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AMENDMENT IS HOW IT APPLIES TO OUR ECONOMIC DEALS IN FUTURE PROJECTS BASED ON THE TIMEFRAME OF THOSE. BY DEFINITION THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO IN CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE THE TERMS OF THOSE DEALS , WE CANNOT HAVE OUT IN THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE NDAS ON THEM, SIR. AND THAT IS WHY CLARIFIED WITH YOU, YOU CAME UP VERY ANIMATED AND MY POINT WAS, THE AGREEMENT AS IT STANDS, THE TIMEFRAME AND THE 6040 SPLIT OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, HOW DO WE IMPACT ECONOMIC DEALS AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT? BY DEFINITION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE PORTION OF WHERE WE CAN GIVE TO WHERE ESD IS COMFORTABLE , FOR THESE ECONOMIC DEALS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH OUR BOARD AND ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE HAVE AGREEMENT AT NDAS IN PLACE THAT WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT IT OUT HERE AND WE CANNOT KNOW WHERE WE CAN GIVE ON THAT AMENDMENT, YOU IS NOW PROBABLY HAVE SHARED SOME INFORMATION WITH CHENEY ON WHERE YOU THINK THE ES D BOARD AND YOURSELF ARE COMFORTABLE AND SHE NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE AT , THIS WORKS FOR US OR NOT AND IF IT DOES WORK, ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? BECAUSE IT WILL ALSO IMPACT THESE DEALS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE, NOT JOINTLY. ONCE YOU'VE HAMMERED ALL THE DEALS IF YOU WANT TO COME TO A BIG SIGNING TOGETHER AND HAVE A MEETING TO SAY THIS IS THE AGREEMENT AND WE CAN CALL THAT JOINT SESSION TO DO THAT BUT NOT FOR THE PORTION TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT PORTIONS RELATED TO THE ECONOMIC DEALS THAT WE

HAVE NDAS ON. >> AND WE AGREE ON ABOUT 2% OF THINGS, SO, THIS ONE HERE, WE ARE ALIGNED, THAT IS RARE. RARE

JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP. >> LET ME ASK SOMETHING FOR CLARIFICATION. SO, BACK ON WE KIND OF FIXED THE ISSUE THAT WAS FOUND FOR YOUR ATTORNEY SAID WE CANNOT FIND THAT THESE WERE EXECUTED AND WE GOT THE LETTER THAT SAID WHATEVER IT SAID, THAT WE WENT THROUGH, RE-NEGOTIATED, FIGURED OUT THE CURRENT DEAL ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO. AT THAT TIME WE DID, HAS BEEN MENTIONED, WE DID GIVE CHENEY SOME GENERAL PARAMETERS OF HERE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT DEAL, MAINLY, WHAT IS THE DEAL THAT WE GIVE , EXAMPLES HAVE BEEN SHARED, OUTLIVES THE AGREEMENT? WE COULD BE IN TROUBLE, WE WANT TO BRING A SAMSUNG IN AND GIVE THEM A 30 YEAR DEAL IN THE STILL ONLY LAST 10 YEARS, THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT OVERCOMMIT WHAT OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT SAYS, RIGHT? WE GIVE CHENEY SOME GENERAL GUIDELINES AS FAR AS HERE'S WHAT, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK TO THE ESD ABOUT, AND IT SOUND LIKE SHE HAS BEEN DOING, YOU TWO HAVE BEEN WORKING IN MEETING SEVERAL TIMES AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALSO NIGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WAS TO SAY HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AT SO FAR, AM I GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH? AM I GOING ON THE RIGHT PATH? HERE ARE SOME THINGS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. COUNCIL, I WANT YOU TO MAYBE BRING THE GUARDRAILS IN A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE ME SOME BOUNDARIES OF WHERE I CAN TALK. I THINK THE LAST THING WE WANT, THE LAST THING SHE WANTS AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS FOR HER TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF ASSUMPTION OF THAT I THINK COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT. YOU WORK SOMETHING OUT AND BRINGS IT BACK TO US AND WE SAY THAT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL. AND THEN YOU GOT A GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I THINK TONIGHT AND MAYBE CHENEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THINK TONIGHT WAS JUST, HEY, HERE'S WHERE I AM AT , WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THINGS AND TALKING WITH ESD AND THINGS ARE GOING GOOD. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE MY BOUNDARIES ARE STILL, HAVE THEY CHANGED? DOES THAT KIND OF, IS THAT ACCURATE , CHENEY?

>> YES, MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT IS EFFECTIVELY THE PURPOSE BECAUSE AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP AND I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT THIS BODY, ESPECIALLY WITH SUCH A CRITICAL PARTNER AND COLLABORATION, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR PLACING THAT ON THE AGENDA AND GETTING YELLS GUIDANCE TONIGHT.

>> AND AGAIN, LESSON LEARNED, SOME HE COULD'VE REACHED OUT TO YOU TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING, IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA AND THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF IT AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE SOLVED A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS, I AM

GUESSING, DOES THAT HELP >> JUST OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION, THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED ME TO LET THE BOARD KNOW, THIS IS ON, THIS IS WHAT IS TAKING PLACE. TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE YOU STATED COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE YOUR ISO ONE RATING WITH THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE, THAT ISO RATING IS AN ATTRACTION TO BRING BUSINESSES IN. THE SALES

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TAX THAT WE COLLECT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF HUTTO WAS AN IMPORTANT WAY FOR US TO GET THAT ISO ONE RATING FOR YOU. I GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID IN MY STATEMENT, THERE IS NO LAW THAT REQUIRES US TO DO THAT. NO LAW WHATSOEVER. BUT WE SEE IT AS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, WE SEE IT AS A BENEFIT TO THE ESD TO DO

THAT. >> CHIEF IF I COULD. I SAW YOU

THIS MORNING. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I NOT SAY HEY, MAYOR, WHAT IS THIS? BECAUSE I TELL YOU, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME ADVICE, AND ASKED FOR , FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE DIRECT AND MAYBE COULD GO ABOUT THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT WHEN YOU COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU START OFF WITH , WE ARE DOING YOU A FAVOR, WE DON'T HAVE TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH YOU AND WE'RE DOING THAT OUT OF THE BLESSING OF OUR HEART , THAT IS NOT GOOD NEGOTIATING AND THAT IS NOT GOOD PARTNERSHIP, THAT IS LIKE YOU WANT AN ARGUMENT, IT IS LIKE YOU WANT TO START A PROBLEM. CHENEY WAS HERE THIS MORNING, MAYOR PRO TEM AS OF THIS MORNING, YOU SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE AND YOU TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION BUT YOU ARE NOT COMMUNICATING IN LIKE THREE TIMES YOU SAID,, WE SAID, OUR BADLY LOOKING TO GET BETTER AND YOU COME BACK TO SAY TO SHARE STUFF WITH YOU BUT WE ARE DOING A FAVOR AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS GONE WELL WITH EVERYBODY APPEAR. IT IS MORE WHAT GOES WELL WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, IT IS MORE OF A GUYS, LOOK, I WILL DO BETTER TO COMMUNICATE IF YOU WILL DO BETTER TO COMMUNICATE, WE ALL OF HUTTO BUT WE KEEP GOING TO THIS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS, THERE IS NO LAW, THERE ARE OTHER LAWS OUT THERE WE CAN START QUOTING THAT COULD CHANGE EVERYTHING, OKAY? THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS OUT THERE AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE LAWS PROPOSED, THAT IS JUST NOT, FROM A GUY THAT DOES NOT APPROACH ISSUES THE RIGHT WAY ALWAYS, IT JUST DOES NOT WORK THAT WELL AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO JUST LEAVE HERE WITH WILL DO BETTER TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU BUT ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE DON'T SCREW UP WITH SOME THESE MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AS I SAID YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. WE HAVE NOT DONE A GREAT JOB ON THE CITY SIDE BUT WE ARE WORKING HARD AND WE HAVE A LOT BETTER PERSONNEL THAN IN THE PAST, AS YOU ARE PROBABLY WELL AWARE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO BETTER. WE HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF, HE JOKES AROUND WITH YOU ABOUT DRIVING A FIRE TRUCK AND WHATEVER AND I THINK WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO OR, I JUST FEEL LIKE , I DON'T KNOW THAT IS JUST

NOT GOOD . >> LET ME ADDRESS ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT IS WHY I STATED IT TWICE, THAT THE ESD DOES NOT HAVE TO SHARE THE SALES TAX. WE SEE IT, OR THE BOARD SEES IT AND HAS SINCE WE PASSED THAT , SINCE THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR IT, THAT IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE ESD AS WELL AS THE CITY OF HUTTO. BUT THERE IS ALSO, WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT YOU FEEL THAT THE ESD, I DON'T PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH BUT THAT THERE IS A THOUGHT OR BELIEF THAT ESD MAY HAVE ONE THOUGHT AND COUNCIL HAS ANOTHER, THAT ALSO GOES WITH WHAT THE ESD BOARD THINKS. SO YOU SAID WE CANNOT HAVE JOINT MEETINGS , WE CAN, THAT IS WHY RE-EMPHASIZE THAT. WHEN WE STARTED THIS ENTIRE PROCESS BACK IN 2016 WE HAD JOINT MEETINGS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT WHY THE CITY WAS DEFUNDING THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAD WITH THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME. >> I'M NOT SAYING WE CANNOT HAVE JOINT MEETINGS AND COUNCILMEMBER CLARK IS NOTHING WE CANNOT HAVE A JOINT MEETINGS. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ARTICULATE TO YOU IS YOU CANNOT HAVE A JOINT MEETING OF NEGOTIATIONS WHEN IT DEALS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND WE NEED ATTORNEY REPRESENTATION. JOINT MEETINGS, YES WE JUST HAD ONE WITH EDC IN THE PUBLIC. IF EDC WANTS TO BRING UP AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IT IS NO LONGER PUBLIC COMMENT IS GOING IN THE BACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT ANY MORE CLEAR. WE CAN HAVE JOINT MEETINGS, NO, WE CANNOT HAVE JOINT NEGOTIATION MEETINGS THAT INVOLVE LEGAL THINGS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. IN OUR MIND OR AT LEAST IN MINE THAT IS TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS, WE CAN HAVE A QUARTERLY MEETING WITH YOU GUYS AND MEET WHEREVER YOU WANT TO MEET, WE HAVE TO POST 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE BUT WE ARE TALKING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR ANY KIND OF LEGAL AMENDMENT TO LEGAL DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING THIS AND NOT DOING THIS, THAT WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE YOU'RE AN ADVERSE PARTY AND OUR RULES , MAYBE

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THEY ARE THE SAME AS YOURS, I DON'T KNOW, THEY DON'T ALLOW THAT. THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, 2016, CHIEF, WE BROKE SO MONEY ROLES IN 20 18 AND 2017, THE AG WASN'T LETTING US USE BOND MONEY , I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND SAY BECAUSE WE DID SOMETHING IN 2016 AND THERE HAS BEEN THREE LEGISLATIVE SESSION SENSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWS WERE BACK THEN , I WASN'T IN OFFICE, ALL I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM 2017 ON, AND WERE GOING TO DO BETTER TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, WE WILL DO BETTER, IF THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T DO BETTER , TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, WHEN I SAT DOWN AND I SAW YOUR COMMENT I LOOKED OVER , I THINK IT WAS A COUNCILMAN THORTON AND I SAID, WHAT IS THIS ITEM ABOUT? I MISSED IT AND HE SAID, THERE WAS A LEGAL MEMO ON IT, SO, WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY, MADE A LEGAL MEMO. I WAS LIKE I MUST'VE MISSED IT SO, I'M JUST GETTING HERE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET TOLD SOME OF THIS STUFF AND IT IS NOT LIKE A CONCERTED EFFORT, IT IS LITERALLY WHAT EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO TELL YOU, IT IS JUST AN UPDATE , WE MAY HAVE A QUESTION, WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE BECAUSE WE ARE AMENDING A LEGAL DOCUMENT , KIND OF LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLARK IS AND BY DEFINITION , THAT IS EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE GENERALLY DON'T NEGOTIATE LEGAL DOCUMENTS IN THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE IN THE PAST BUT ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO PROVE A POINT, THAT IS ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO. WE WILL DO BETTER ON COMMUNICATION. IF I SEE YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM, I'M NOT THAT SCARY OF AN INDIVIDUAL , TO SEE ME BREAKFAST, YELL AT ME TO SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE, MY FIRST THING WOULD BE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT , LET ME GET A HOLD OF THE CITY MANAGER OR

CHENEY . >> FOR THE RECORD, I WILL

CONTINUE TO YELL AT YOU. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> BUT ALSO FOR THE RECORD, MR. -- HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH, MUCH MORE RECEPTIVE AND SOME IN THE PAST. BUT WE NEVER SEE THIS, WE DON'T SEE THIS NOW, ANY TYPE OF NEGOTIATION , WE DON'T SEE IT NOW IS ANY TYPE OF AN AMENDMENT. WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. THE WORK THAT WE WERE DOING WITH CHENEY, BASED UPON CITY MANAGER FIRST BRINGING UP THE ISSUE. IT WENT TO CHENEY FOR THE ISSUE AND IT WAS, LET'S COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS THAT WE HAVE TO BRING THOSE IDEAS TO YOU ALL AND TO THE ESD BOARD , PRETTY WELL AT THE SAME TIME , PRETTY WELL THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DOCUMENT THAT GOES BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM. WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO INVOLVE OUR ATTORNEY WITH YOUR LEGAL COUNCIL ON THESE ITEMS . I DON'T NEGOTIATE ANY OF THE THINGS. THE BOARD DOESN'T NEGOTIATE ANY OF THE THINGS BUT

THE BOARD TALKS ABOUT IT. >> I AM CONFUSED, BEFORE YOU SAID YOUR BOARD WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH US OR NEGOTIATE, WHO NEGOTIATE ON YOUR SIDE? SO WE KNOW WE ARE

TALKING TO THE RIGHT PERSON. >> DEFINED NEGOTIATION , IN HER

MIND. >> WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT AND WE PROPOSE AN IDEA AND THEN YOU GUYS COUNTER POSE ANOTHER IDEA AND WE COME BACK WITH A, WHAT ABOUT THIS? AND YOU COME BACK WITH IF WE DO THIS WILL YOU DO THAT? I MEAN IT GOES BACK AND FORTH UNTIL EVENTUALLY BUT HE SAYS, BY GOLLY I THINK WE HAVE A DEAL, WHO DOES THAT IN YOUR END? SO WE KNOW.

>> I WILL CARRY IT TO THE BOARD, PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AT THEIR MEETING AND SAY , THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO DO. THEN THE BOARD WILL SAY, YES WE AGREE, OR NO, WE DO NOT

AGREE. >> WHO NEGOTIATES? WHO ARE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS. I MEAN, WHO IS SITTING DOWN TO

NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT? >> WE HAVE NEVER NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT, OTHER THAN THE BOARD SAID THAT WE WILL GIVE SALES

TAX TO THE CITY. >> ALL GREAT PARTNERSHIPS INCLUDE NEGOTIATIONS, MAYBE THAT IS PART OF THE COMMUNICATION PROBLEM, WE DID NOT KNOW YOU GUYS DIDN'T NEGOTIATE, WE THOUGHT YOU GUYS NEGOTIATED THINGS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T DO THAT AND SO, I GUESS WE NEED TO GIVE A FINAL AND BEST OFFER, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT, SEND IT TO YOUR BOARD, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. JUST SEND SOMETHING I GUESS THROUGH EMAIL, PDFS , THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING THEN?

>> YES. >> AND THAT IS ANOTHER THING ON OUR PART, RIGHT? WITHOUT NEGOTIATING WITH SITTING DOWN AND TALKING, WE DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME BY TALKING TO YOU ABOUT OUR ISSUES AND WE KNOW CHENEY IS BUSY AND BE DON'T

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WANT TO WASTE HER TIME TALKING TO YOU ABOUT OUR ISSUES. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO TELL CHENEY, HERE IS OUR ISSUES, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN DRAFT IT AND SEND IT OVER AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS I GUESS. ACTUALLY THIS HAS BEEN A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

>> GNOME I'M CONFUSED. HOW WILL YOU BE PRODUCTIVE GOING

FORWARD. >> SO , IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE TWO OF YOU ALL ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER, U OF ALBAN UNDERGOING MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS THAT THE CITY MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE ON, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> YES MA'AM.

>> OKAY. AND YOU WANTED IT TO BE ON YOUR RADAR AND THE CITY ALSO NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION ON OUR SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY CLARIFICATION BUT JUST MAYBE SOME STABILITY SO THAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS CAN OCCUR ON THE CITY'S BEHALF, IS THAT A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING?

>> YES. >> IS IT ALSO CORRECT THAT YOUR BOARD HAS MET AND EXPLORED SOME REASONABLE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS THAT THE CITY

IS CURRENTLY UNDER? >> THE BOARD HAS BEEN ADVISED, AS WE CAN, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE AGREEMENTS THAT WE CANNOT KNOW ABOUT, THAT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS GOING ON THAT THE CITY MAY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES BUT UNTIL WE KNOW, BASED UPON THE TALKS THAT WE HAVE, THAT THESE WILL GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR YES OR NO AND THEN TO THE ESD BOARD FOR YES OR NO.

>> SO , BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE GENERAL , I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE JUST IN GENERAL DISCUSSION OF GETTING ON THE SAME PAGE , SO THAT THERE IS COVERAGE ON THAT

SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> HOW LONG HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS BEEN GOING ON BETWEEN YOURSELF, THE CITY STAFF , ABOUT THIS? LET'S GET EVERYTHING STRAIGHT. HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN HAPPENING?

>> PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER, SO IT WAS COOL LATE SUMMER BECAUSE THEN I WENT ON A MEDICAL POINT

>> OKAY. WHAT SAY 4 TO 6 MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS FOR GOOD MEASURE. SO, YOUR BOARD MAYBE HAS SOME IDEAS THAT ARE AMOCO -- AMONGST THEMSELVES TO THEN BRING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN POTENTIALLY WE COULD BE DISCUSSING, I GUESS, WHERE YOU ARE AT WITH WHERE THE BOARD AND ESD IS AT, IS THAT CORRECT,

JANIE? OR NOT. >> EFFECTIVELY YES. I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO THE CLARIFICATION EARLIER. TONIGHT IS AN UP DATE TO COUNCIL ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND TO SEEK GUIDANCE ON WHICH PATH TO PURSUE, OTHER OPTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE SO THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAN CONTINUE, SO WE CAN GET TO A PLACE OF AGREEMENTS ON ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS.

>> BUT WE DON'T NEED TO DO CONVERSATIONS WE TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT TO PUT ON A PIECE OF PAPER GET A VOTE FROM THE BOARD IT SOUNDS LIKE. BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR 4 TO

6 MONTHS >> WE HAVE NOT MET THAT WHOLE

TIME. >> BUT WE MAY HAVE A PROJECT WAITING ON THIS. IT COULD GO ON ANOTHER YEAR AND WE CAN ONLY PUT PEOPLE OUT SO LONG AND IT SOUNDS LIKE HEARING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT WE JUST NEED TO PUT WHAT IT IS WE WANT AND ASK FOR IT, SUBMIT THAT AND SEE IF THE BOARD WILL APPROVE.

>> YES AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

>> WE SOUGHT TO GO TO EXECUTIVE TONIGHT TO DO THAT. WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ANYMORE ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC AT THIS POINT.

>> THAT'S MY STATUS PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW THE PROCESS, LESS DISCUSSION AND MORE PAPER PUSHING I GUESS. I

DON'T HAVE AN IMPORTANT . >> I'M GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WITH NO OBJECTION WE WILL RECALL THIS LATER IN EXECUTIVE.

[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS 8.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTMENTS, RE-APPOINTED AND REMOVALS OF CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES , ECONOMIC DEVELOP IN CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX RE-INVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS AND AREA GOVERNMENT . DID PLACE 135 HAVE TIME TO MEET YET?

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>> BRIAN? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? RELATED TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? NO, WE DIDN'T MEET AND IT CHANGED OVER AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM WAS IN REACH OUT

AND HANDED OVER TO CHAIR. >> I'M HAPPY TO SHARE LIKE HOW WE RAN IT, HOW WE KIND OF , THE PROCEDURAL , HOW WE DID IT, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE WITH YOU GUYS AS FAR AS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP DOING IT THE SAME WAY OR CHANGED UP. SEEMED TO WORK WELL THIS PAST YEAR. I CAN DO THAT THIS NEXT WEEK.

[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations from City Council subcommittees (i.e. Legislative).]

>> ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 8.2. ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES.

>> MAYOR, I HAVE NOTHING FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE .

TONIGHT WE HAVE SOME RESOLUTIONS THAT LEGAL HAS WRITTEN FOR US THAT WE REQUESTED, THAT IS A FOLLOW-UP.

SO, WE WILL BRING BACK ANY OTHER ITEMS AS WE MEET.

>> SAID THE LEGAL PEOPLE ROLL THEM UP.

>> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE AMOUNT?

>> WE DO HAVE THE DURANGO SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN MEETING , JUST GIVE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AN UPDATE. WE HAD ONE MEETING WITH THE HLA FOLKS AND WE GOT ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED FOR ONE WEEK FROM TONIGHT, NEXT THURSDAY, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING WITH DURANGO FOLKS AND WITH ANY PARTNERS AND WITH CITY STAFF TO GO OVER THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. AND THEN WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLE FLOODING ISSUES FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON 1660 NORTH INTO THE SUBCOMMITTEE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN KEEP THAT STEP. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ONE-ON-ONE AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WORK WITH THEM. SOME LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A SOLUTION PROPOSED AND THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE DESIGN TO FIX THE FLOODING.

>> COOL. THANK YOU, SIR. WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.1,

[9.1. Presentation of the Texas Recreation and Park Society Photography Award. (Jeff White)]

PRESENTATION OF THE TEXAS RECREATION PARK SOCIETY

PHOTOGRAPHY AWARD. >> GOOD EVENING , MAYOR AND COUNCIL, -- OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT AN AWARD TO MICHELLE KELLY, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED A PHOTO THAT THEY TOOK FOR THE ANNUAL CHRIS KELLY 5K FOR THIS PHOTOGRAPHY AWARD AND WE WON AND WE ARE PROUD OF AS A COMPLIMENT AND I WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO MICHELLE, WE CAN GET A PICTURE AFTER SHE HAS A CHANCE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. IT IS HEAVY, SORRY.

>> AWESOME. >> ALL GOOD WORDS SHOULD BE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY, ARE HUTTO COMMUNITY . WHEN CHRIS KELLY DIED, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW HE DIED IN 2015, HE WAS MY LATE HUSBAND. HE DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AS A HUTTO POLICE OFFICER AND IN 2017 THE INCEPTION OF THE CHRIS KELLY FOUNDATION WAS FORMED AND SINCE THEN OUR GOAL IS TO NOT LET POLICE , FIRE, EMS, AND MILITARY GO UNNOTICED FOR THE SUPPORT TO STAY IN HUTTO AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. WHEN CHRIS DIED WE HAD A TON OF SUPPORT AS MY FAMILY AND THE POLICE COMMUNITY AND WE JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT TO HAPPEN. THIS PAST YEAR, FOR 2024 THE FOUNDATION DONATED ALMOST $50,000 TO POLICE, FIRE, EMS, MILITARY, FAMILIES IN NEED AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR MISSION OF SUPPORTING THESE AGENCIES. SO WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WE HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL COME FOR THE 10TH ANNUAL NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS JUNE 21ST AND THAT IS OUR FIRST EVENING RUN AND IT WILL BE REALLY FUN.

THANK YOU, ALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE ?

>> JEFF, I HAVE A QUESTION, CAN WE SEE THE PHOTO?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS ATTACHED IN THE PRESENTATION BUT IT WAS NOT AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY.

>> OKAY. THE PHOTOGRAPHY FOR THE RACE WAS AMAZING, BY THE WAY, WHOEVER DID THAT DID GREAT. JUST FROM THE PHOTOS YOU

SHARED. >> WATCH OUT.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT, THE PHOTOGRAPHER WAS SUPPOSED TO COME TONIGHT BUT HE LIVES IN -- AND BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER BUT BILL PIPER IS AMAZING.

>> YES, IT WAS GREAT.

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>> THREE, TWO, ONE . THANK YOU, GUYS.

[9.2. Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Update. (Matt Rector)]

>> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 9.2, -- IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CIP UPDATE.

>> BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE AGENDA, MAYOR, SORRY.

INAUDIBLE ] OKAY, I JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF EVERYONE WHO IS HERE IN CITY HALL I KNOW IT IS STILL RAINING OUT THERE AND IT IS GETTING PRETTY COLD, I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PUSH UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT SO WE ARE NOT HERE UNTIL 1:00 IN THE MORNING LIKE WE TYPICALLY ARE, IF WE DON'T THINK IT WILL BE THAT LONG THAT IS FINE BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE HERE UNTIL

PAST MIDNIGHT. >> I THINK IT WILL BE DONE BY

10:00. >> BUT EVERY TIME YOU SAY THAT

THOUGH. >> RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT, MATT. >> MATT IS READY TO GO HOME. HE

IS LIKE SURE, LET'S GO. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY ENGINEER , I'M HAPPY TO PUSH THIS TO SOME FUTURE MEETING IF YOU GUYS WANT. IF THAT GETS US OUT OF

HERE ANY FASTER. >> THE GROUND WILL FOR YOU IS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUSH ANYTHING.

>> EARLIER WE CAN LET YOU GO MAYBE.

>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. JUST FOR EVERYONE'S AWARENESS AND JUST REFRESHING YOUR MEMORY, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF THE CIP IN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WE ARE ON THE QUARTER. SO, TYPICALLY THAT IS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE BUT SINCE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT ALL IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WE GOT EVEN MORE OF THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO FLY THROUGH IT QUICKLY. I'M GOING TO HIT THE HIGH POINTS THE WAY I SEE THEM AND THAT WAY I CAN FLY THROUGH THIS STUFF AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS JUST STOP ME AS WE GO. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ONE , NO REAL UPDATE HERE. THIS IS THE SIDEWALK PROJECT. YOU SEE THE MAP, THAT IS THE GAP ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE, WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO PRIORITIZE WE WANT TO PUT THE $550,000. 6060 -- UNDER CONSTRUCTION. MOVING ALONG WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNDER CONSENT TONIGHT, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THE TIMELINE GETS PUSHED OUT FROM THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR TO THE NEXT QUARTER .

>> WHICH MONTH IN QUARTER TWO, ORIGINALLY THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO

BE DONE IN SEPTEMBER. >> RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT

MARCH, THE END OF MARCH. >> IS A WAY WE CAN HAVE LIKE AN AFTER PROJECT , I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT. BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE 6 TO 8 MONTHS BEHIND JUST TO KNOW LIKE, WHAT WE LEARNED, WHAT CAN CITY COUNCIL GIVE YOU GUYS OR

WHATEVER. >> OKAY. 6060 SOUTH AND 79, AS YOU GUYS KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DELIGHTED BECAUSE TXDOT CAME IN AND WANTED TO ADD AN EXTRA SIGNAL TO THE SIGNAL PROJECT.

IT IS IN 90% REVIEW RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE WAITING FOR TXDOT TO FINISH THE REVIEWS OF THE CONSOLE CAN FINISH THE DESIGN.

THAT IS WHY WE UPDATED ALL THE DATES DOWN THERE TO SAY WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL ACTUALLY START. 137 1660, AS I SAID LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE ARE WORKING THE REVIEW PROCESSES WITH TXDOT AND AT THIS POINT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHEN THEY WILL LET US GO FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION AND

GETTING COMPLETION. >> ON THAT ONE, MATT . WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ON THAT AGAIN? WE JUST MET WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE PERSON FOR TXDOT AND WHAT IS IT THAT

IS HOLDING THIS UP? >> SO, THIS ONE , THEY CAME IN

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AND SAID WE NEEDED TO DO A WHOLE RIGHT-OF-WAY DONATION AGREEMENT, WE WORKED THROUGH A LOT OF THAT WITH THEM AND WE THINK WE HAVE IT OFF OF HIGH CENTER AND THEY SAID WE NEED TO DO ALL OF THIS MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTATION FOR UTILITIES AND WE ARE NOW WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM BUT IT HAS SLOWED DOWN THE REVIEW PROCESS AS WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM , THAT IS THE ISSUE, TRYING TO GET THROUGH THEIR

BUREAUCRACY. >> SO, THE ONE ARM WILL NOT REVIEW THE PLANS LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD BECAUSE THE OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT RUNS THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS DOES NOT

HAVE IT IN HAND? >> RIGHT. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT WITH BOTH GROUPS.

>> BUT ONE DOESN'T AFFECT THE OTHER , RIGHT? THE DESIGN IS ONE THING AND THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IS ANOTHER, RIGHT?

>> YES , EXCEPT WE CANNOT PROGRESS THE DESIGN FORWARD TO GET FINAL APPROVAL UNTIL THE OTHER PEOPLE SIGN OFF. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

>> DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THAT ?

>> SO , WE HAVE MOST OF THE RIGHT AWAY, THERE ARE TWO LITTLE SNIPPETS WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DO THE WHOLE RIGHT-OF-WAY DONATION AGREEMENT, AS YOU REMEMBER THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TXDOT PUSHING FOR A SIGNAL HERE AND WE SAID WE WANT TO AROUND ABOUT HIM HE HAD TO GO TO THE WHOLE PROCESS. THEY CAME THROUGH WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, MADE THINGS WHITER, BIGGER , FOR SAFETY CONCERNS AND TRUCKS AND ALL THAT STUFF. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. SO, THIS IS PHASE THREE , THE ISSUE ON THAT ONE IS WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING RIGHT OF ENTRY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE DATES GETTING PUSHED IS BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE LEGAL TEAM TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PUSH PEOPLE TO GIVE US RIGHTS OF ENTRY. IF WE DON'T GET RIGHTS OF ENTRY THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PATH FORWARD IS OTHER THAN MAYBE WE WANT TO COMPLETELY RE-DESIGN THE PROJECT OR MAYBE WE JUST SAY WE ARE NOT DOING THE

PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW. >> HAS THIS BEEN AN ISSUE

BEFORE? >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS A LETTER SENT BY THE CITY FROM OUR ATTORNEYS OR SOMEONE MAKING IT SOUND LIKE THAT THE CITY WAS NOT GOING TO FIX ANYTHING IF THEY BROKE ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. AND I BROUGHT THAT UP WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND FROM WHAT I REMEMBER SHE SAID THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THE LETTER BUT THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE AND I THINK MAYOR IS AWARE OF THIS AS WELL AND SO I THOUGHT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS WORKING TO CLARIFY THAT AND GET A MODIFIED LETTER TO SEND IT TO THE CITIZENS BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE CITY MANAGER KNOWS, WAS NEVER TO SAY, WERE TO COME IN AND TEAR. YARD AND TOUGH LUCK, IT WAS ALWAYS THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK TO THE CONDITION IT

WAS BEFORE WE STARTED. >> AND WE DID THAT IN PHASE ONE

AND TWO. >> RIGHT, THINK IT WAS CONFUSION WITH THE LETTER THAT WENT OUT. I THINK THAT IS THE

ISSUE. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT MAYOR PRO

TEM IS SAYING. >> PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, YOU ME TO AGREE TO LET ME TEAR UP MY YARD? NO, I DON'T AGREE TO THAT AND THEY WERE THINKING THAT WAY BEFORE BUT NOW THEY

ARE. >> BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF ENTRY IS ON THEIR PROPERTY, NOT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> WE DON'T NEED RIGHT OF ENTRY FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE ONLY NEED IT BECAUSE SOME OF THE WORK, THE WAY WE DO THE GRADING AND ALL OF THAT STUFF TO MEET A.D.A. TO GET THE TLR CERTIFICATIONS MEANS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO WORK OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO TIE IN PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS TO GET IT ALL BACK THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. TO MATCH UP WITH THE SIDEWALK SO THAT IS NOT A WEIRD, BUMPY TRANSITION AND SO, THE OPTION IS EITHER WE COMPLETELY CHANGE THE DESIGN AND PUSH THE SIDEWALK UP AGAINST THE CURVE TO NOT GO INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS AT ALL, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO RE-DESIGN EVERYTHING OR WE GET THE RIGHT OF ENTRY TO KEEP THE TREE LINE IN PLACE AND PUSH THE SIDEWALK BACK TO RE-GRADE SOME

OF THE DRIVEWAY. >> THEIRS IS OPTION THREE AND I THINK , IS THE FIRST ON THE LETTER WENT OUT, RIGHT?

>> THE LETTER ORIGINALLY WENT OUT IN AUGUST.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE IT WENT OUT, RIGHT?

>> PHASE ONE WAS BEFORE I GOT HERE AND I BELIEVE THE CONSULTANT THAT WE HAD ON BOARD ACTUALLY WENT AND DID DOOR HANGERS DOOR-TO-DOOR KIND OF A THING, THEY HAD WRITTEN UP THEIR OWN DOCUMENT THAT SAME CONSOLE AND IT PHASE TWO , WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT FOR PHASE THREE AND THAT CONSULTANT WAS GOING TO CHARGE US EXTRA, SO, THE CITY PUT OUT THE LETTERS THEMSELVES, US AND LEGAL WROTE THE LETTERS AND

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MAIL THEM TO ALL OF THE RESIDENCE AND SENT THEM TO THE H AWAY SO THEY COULD COMMUNICATE TO THE RESIDENCE

AND THAT STUFF. >> I THINK WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM IS SAYING, THAT OPTION THREE IS THAT WE NEED TO DRAFT A NEW LETTER AND MAYBE NOW WE WILL HAVE TO GO DOOR-TO-DOOR BECAUSE NO OFFENSE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT IT MAKES IT LEGAL AND PEOPLE SEE THE FIRST THING THEY SEE IT IS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE COMING TO MY PROPERTY AND BUSTING MY SEWER LINE AND MAKING ME PAY FOR IT, THE CITY NEEDS TO PAY FOR THAT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SIMPLIFY IT , TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AND REDO YOUR DRIVEWAY AND WE WILL PUT EVERYTHING BACK. IF WE BUST A WATER LINE OR ANYTHING THAT IS ALL ON US. I THINK THAT IS OPTION THREE AND THINK YOU'RE OFF TO THE RACES BUT EVERYONE TO SAY NO TO THAT LEGAL LETTER BECAUSE THAT IS THE FIRST THING EVERYBODY DOES, THEY SAY NO.

>> CAN WE GET THE TEMPLATE FROM PHASE ONE AND TWO?

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WERE ASKED TO DO A RIGHT OF ENTRY AGREEMENT BASICALLY AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NEEDED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS GOING AND IT IS A LITTLE SECTION THAT VARIES FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY BASED ON I GUESS THE HEIGHT OF THE DRIVEWAY POSSIBLY , HOW MUCH AREA THEY NEED ALONG THE DRIVEWAY IT IS JUST LIKE SECTION OF DRIVEWAY FROM THE MAP I SAW. THERE IS JUST A LITTLE SECTION AND I THINK IT WASN'T CLEAR BECAUSE IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED LOOKING AT IT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT FOLKS WERE THINKING WAS NEEDED ON THEIR PROPERTIES BUT IT IS REALLY JUST A SMALL AREA TO TAPER THE DRIVEWAY DOWN.

>> MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO DIG UP THE LETTER BECAUSE I READ THE LETTER, I SAW AND I WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT EITHER BECAUSE THE WAY THE LETTER READ IT WAS , WERE GOING TO COME TEAR UP YARD AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FIX ANYTHING, THAT'S HOW IT CAME

ACROSS. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF TO GET SOMETHING BACK OUT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR BUT THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED AND I KNOW THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE STAFF ABOUT THIS THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GO TO THE H AWAY TO HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS NEEDED BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED THE SIDEWALKS TO START AND THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE IN PHASE

THREE OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT. >> THAT IS LUMBER YARDS TAKEN

CARE OF THAT IS ALL IT IS. >> I DON'T THINK IT IS YARDS

IT IS THE DRIVEWAY. >> THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALL THE RIGHTS OF ENTRY WILL BE DRIVEWAY RELATED.

>> OKAY, STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE LEGAL TEAM TO REVISE THOSE LETTERS AND GET THEM SENT BACK OUT. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS ONE GOING. GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. 132 OVERPASS, YOU ARE AWARE THIS WAS CAUSE I PUT ON HOLD, WE HAD THAT KIND OF KICKOFF MEETING YESTERDAY WITH GARVER, EDC, MIDWAY , -- AND CITY STAFF ARE ALL ON THE CALL. I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE CALL, THEY DID NOT SLAM THE DOOR IN HER FACE WHICH IS GOOD.

THEY ASKED SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND THEY DID RE-ITERATE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE OTHER CALL CENTERS IN THE CITY AND THINK WORKING WITH THE EDC WERE GOING TO PUT A GAME PLAN TOGETHER. WE HAVE A TXDOT COORDINATION MEETING TOMORROW TO GET TEXT ON BOARD WITH THE WHOLE IDEA WITH THIS NEW MIDWEIGHT TYPE CONCEPT AND WE ARE PUSHING THAT FORWARD AS QUICK AS WE CAN. OBVIOUS THE DATES ARE ALL TBD BECAUSE WE

NEED THE REVISED CONCEPT GOING. >> THE MIDWAY CONCEPT DOES NOT INCLUDE A BRIDGE OVERPASS, CORRECT?

>> IT DOES INCLUDE A BRIDGE, IT IS JUST A PHASED APPROACH. THE FIRST THING IS TURN LANES, WHICH IS EXPANDING THE AT GRADE CROSSING OF THE RAILROAD. AND THEN LATER ON IT BASICALLY LEAVES A GAP BETWEEN ALL OF THE TURN LANES NORTH/SOUTH SO LATER ON YOU CAN COME BACK TO PUT IN A GRADE SEPARATING TO GET OVER THE RAILROAD ON 79, IT IS KIND OF A MULTI-PHASED APPROACH.

>> EAST/WEST SPINE ROAD IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE EXPECTING IT DONE IN QUARTER TWO OF THIS YEAR.

LIVE OAK, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH ENCORE TO GET THAT RESOLVED SO THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT AND I THINK WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE NOW TO THAT BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HAS PUSHED OUR DATES OUT A LITTLE BIT. -- ALL OF OUR DATES ARE GETTING PUSHED OUT, THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SOME EXTRA, AGAIN WE HAVE SOME RIGHT OF ENTRY STUFF ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE WE ARE DOING THE SIDEWALK AND SOME EXTRA RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION ON THE NORTH SIDE WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. BEFORE WE FINISH THE DESIGN. EMORY FARMS,

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CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT THAT , THAT IS GOING TO CONSTRUCTION HE WILL SEE ROAD CLOSURES. I THINK THE SIGNS ARE BUT THEY HAVE NOT CLOSE THE ROAD YET BECAUSE YOU WANT TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THEM TIME TO ADJUST FIRST. INNOVATION -- PLANS ARE COMPLETE AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT THIS OUT FOR BIDDING. THE SIGNAL PROJECT WOULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIRST QUARTER '25 AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. EXCHANGE, THAT ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. EXCHANGE BOULEVARD, 60% DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE NEXT QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, SO WE CAN BID IT OUT AND GET IT INTO CONSTRUCTION AND REMEMBER, WE SHRUNK THAT ONE DOWN TO JUST BE THE INTERSECTION OF LIVE OAK.

>> MATT, ON THAT CAN YOU GUYS MEET WITH THE ESD AND THERE IS A CONCERN ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER I GUESS GOING WESTBOUND AND TURNING RIGHT , A RADIUS OR SUCH TO WHERE I GUESS THEIR EQUIPMENT IS HOPPING THE CURBS AND IS THERE A WAY YOU GUYS CAN , LIKE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION NOW BUT LIKE WHEN IT IS RE-DESIGNED TO SET UP SO A BIG FIRE TRUCK CAN MAKE A TURN WITHOUT HOPPING THE CURB? LIKE THAT WILL TEAR UP OUR SIDEWALK.

>> EASTBOUND ? >> I THINK IT IS WESTBOUND GOING NORTH BACK TO THE STATION AND THEN YOU MAKE A RIGHT.

>> I WILL JUST TELL YOU, PART OF THE PROJECT IS TO REDO THAT ENTIRE NORTH CORNER THE POST OFFICES. BECAUSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND WIDENING THAT WHOLE THING. WE WILL MAKE SURE WE ACCOUNT FOR FIRE TRUCKS TURNING IN ALL THAT KIND OF

STUFF. >> OKAY.

>> COUNTY ROAD 163, NEW PRODUCT FOR 2025, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE WORKING TO GET CONSULTANTS ON BOARD TO GET THAT GOING. 199 REFTON CONSTRUCTION, AN OLDER PROJECT. WE ARE AT 90% COMPLETE, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE DATES ARE PUSHED OUT BUT WE ARE WORKING FORWARD TO GET THE DESIGN COMPLETE AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY

LOCKED DOWN. >> SO, THAT IS ONE WHERE COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO RE-CONSTRUCT BUT INSTEAD DO THE

OVERLAY, CORRECT? >> WE ARE TO DO THE OVERLAYING COUNCIL THAT INSTEAD OF DOING THE RE-CONSTRUCTION NOW, WE JUST DID THE OVERLAY, LET'S PUSH IT OUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY NEED TO RE-BUILD IT, HAVE THE DESIGN DONE, LET THEM SIT ON THE SHELF AND WHEN IT STARTS FAMILY AGAIN THEN WE ARE READY

TO GO RE-CONSTRUCT. >> THE DESIGN WILL BE DONE AND JUST WHENEVER WE ARE READY TO REDO IT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THE OVERLAY WAS LITTLE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION CORRECT?

>> NO, SIR. THAT WAS BASICALLY FROM WEST OF THE BRIDGE TO JUST

PAST THE FIRST CURVE. >> THE TOP PART OF THE Z.

>> 3349 OVERPASS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COUNTY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE -- WITH, THAT IS THE WELCOME THE HUTTO, THANK YOU FOR VISITING HUTTO ON THE OVERPASS I WAS IN THE COUNTY IS STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE OVERPASS UP. I HAD A MEETING WITH THEM TODAY AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY TO START HAVING LANE CLOSURES SO THEY CAN GET THE STEAL GRID UP THERE, THEY'VE ORDERED EVERYTHING AND HAVE THE CLEARANCE FROM TXDOT NOW. TO DO THAT LAST SECTION THAT YOU SEE A GAP. THAT SHOULD START HAPPENING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS YOU WILL START SEEING LANE CLOSURES ON 79 SO THEY CAN DO THAT WORK. ALLIANCE IS STILL IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE CONSULTANT, NEW PROJECT WE ADDED THIS YEAR. CR 132, THAT IS ON TONIGHT FOR AWARD. FOR CLARIFICATION THE 132 YOU SEE THERE, IT IS NOT GOING ALL THE WAY FROM SLIMMER TO CHANDLER , THAT IS AN ERROR , IT IS ACTUALLY GOING FROM JUST SOUTH OF THAT 45 DEGREE BEND UP TO WHERE IT BASICALLY TIES BACK IN TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF 133. THEN YOU HAVE LIMBER LOOP , THIS IS IN DESIGN. THERE ARE TWO LIMBER LOOPS, SHOULD'VE CLARIFIED. FROM INNOVATION EDGE IS IN DESIGN AND THEN LIMBER LOOP FROM ED SMITH TO 1660 IS IN DESIGN, ALL AWARDED IN DECEMBER. ALL RIGHT. NOW I CAN START GOING REALLY FAST. WATER, SHILOH PUMP STATION ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN MARCH. FRAME SWITCH ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN MARCH. NORTHWEST IS FATED TO BE COMPLETED IN AUGUST. MEGA SITE WATERLINES, THEY ARE BASICALLY DONE, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH SOME FINAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT COMPLIANCE ISSUES. BUT THAT ONE SHOULD BE CLOSED OUT BY THE END

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OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. 1660 WATER LINE, A COST APPROACH THE PATIENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS , THE NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS STILL IN DESIGN. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM. DOWNTOWN ELEVATED TANK, BASICALLY DONE.

A FEW CHANGES HAD TO HAPPEN AND THAT IS ACTUALLY ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. WASTEWATER, SO, GLENWOOD, GLENWOOD IS NOT JUST TO GLENWOOD, IT IS GLENWOOD INTERCEPT THEIR CENTRAL STATION, SOUTH LOW STATION. SO THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR AND THE CENTRAL LIFT STATION ARE ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION , THEY ARE ALL ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR. THE SOUTH LIFT STATION IS 90% DESIGNED AND THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT TO ADD BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THAT PRODUCT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THERE.

THE SOUTH FINAL DESIGN IS COMPLETE . WE KNOW THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE IN 2026. MEGA SITE WASTEWATER LINE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR. BRUSH CREEK INTERCEPTOR THREE, COST PARTICIPATION PART ONE IS ALREADY DONE AND IT IS IN THE GROUND. PART TWO IS FINALIZING DESIGN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEY SHOULD BE WRAPPING THAT , I THINK WE HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN UNDER REVIEW NOW. ASSUMING THEY ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM OFF TO THE RACES AND CONSTRUCTED. SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER LINE NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE ANTICIPATING COMPLETION ON THAT AT THE END OF '26. BRUSH CREEK FOUR, WE AWARDED THAT IN DECEMBER, WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM AND SO, WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT FIRST LINE OF ANALYSIS HERE IN A FEW WEEKS AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE STARTING IN EARLY '26 AND DONE BY MID-'27. -- PHASE ONE THE KASHI WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU CAN SEE AVERY LAKE ONE IS THE BLUE LINE ON THE MAP HERE. THEY ARE IN DESIGN AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPERS LEAD ON THAT ONE. IRONWOOD IS A COST PARTICIPATION. WE ARE WAITING FOR THEM TO BILL IS THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT IN DESIGN AWARDED IN DECEMBER. WE HAD THE KICKOFF MEETING TODAY AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A SITE VISIT SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS MONTH. YOU CAN SEE THE COMPLETION IS SET SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE BUT THAT IS PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE DID THE FUNDING IN THE CIP . AVERY LAKE PHASE TWO I TALKED ABOUT IT, THE YELLOW LINE ON THIS MAP. DEVELOPERS DESIGNING IT, WE WILL FOLLOW THEIR LEAD WHEN THEY ARE READY TO START DOING BIDDING. THEY ARE DESIGNING BOTH LINES BUT WHEN THEY ARE DONE WITH THE DESIGN THEY WILL HAND IT TO US AND WE WILL BID IT AND CONSTRUCTED. THEN THEY WILL

COST PARTICIPATE WITH US. >> PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO IS NOT DETERMINED AT THIS POINT, RIGHT?

>> THE PLAN IS TO DO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO BECAUSE PHASE TWO IS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE STATE DEVELOPMENT, PHASE ONE IS THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF 79 ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE

STATION. >> PHASE TWO BEING THE PART THAT IS PEARL STATE OF A STAY ON THE COURSE OF STAYING OUT OF THE CITY, WE MAY NEED TO BRING THAT BACK AROUND FOR A VOTE IF WE WANT TO BRING A WASTEWATER LINE IN THAT COUNTY.

>> IF ALL OF THE TALKS WE HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH THEM FALL THROUGH THEN WE WOULD WANT TO REVISIT THIS. I WOULD THINK.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> 132.79 , AND OTHER COST PARTS THE PATIENT, RELATED TO THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY IN THE PROJECT NORTH OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY. WE HAVE GOT UPR SIGN OFF, TXDOT FINANCE, CITY HAS APPROVED THE PLANS , WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER , THEY HAVE THEIR CONTRACTOR SELECTED. WE ARE JUST WAITING ON SOME FINAL PAPERWORK THAT UPR REQUIRES WHICH HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF EITHER CONTRACTOR , THE DEVELOPER'S CONTRACTOR. ONCE WE GET THAT WE SHOULD BE OFF TO THE RACES TO GET CONSTRUCTED.

>> HAS EDC SIGNED OFF ON -- NEEDED FOR THE --?

>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE EDC SIGN OFF ON THE PERMANENT EASEMENT AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE NOW AT CITY LEGAL FOR REVIEW. THE EDC IS SUPPOSED TO SIGN OFF I THINK THIS MONTH ON THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS WHICH WOULD THEN GO OVER TO LEGAL REVIEW. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY.

>> WANTED TO TAKE SO LONG FOR THE CITY TO GET AN AGREEMENT WITH AN ENTITY WITH THE CITY? DOESN'T IT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD

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BE LIKE YOU GUYS ABLE TO GET SIGN OFF ON THE UPR BEFORE YOU COULD GET AN ENTITY OF THE CITY TO AGREE, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU WOULD THINK WE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONES, LIKE SLAM DUNK, WE NEED THE LINE, LET'S GO. SO.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THAT FULLY BECAUSE I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT.

I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY, EDC ON NOT ONLY THE EASEMENT ON THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY BUT ALSO EASEMENTS RELATED TO ANOTHER MEGA SITE PROJECT. AND THEY DO WERE SUPPOSED HAVE A LAND SWAP AND THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE VARIOUS GROUPS THERE. I KNOW THAT RIGHT BEFORE I LEFT FOR CHRISTMAS BREAK THE QUESTION CAME FROM -- ASKING ME TO GET SIGN OFF ON THE RIGHT OF ENTRY AND I SAID I CANNOT BECAUSE I DON'T OWN THE LAND. THE EDC DOES AND THE EDC HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THE RIGHT OF ENTRY. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS THE

CITY ENGINEER. >> YOU'RE TELLING ME THE EDC IS THE HOLD UP ON THIS ? I MEAN IT IS A RIGHT OF ENTRY AND IT IS FUNNY, WE GOT A SIDEWALK PROJECT AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET A RIGHT OF ENTRY FROM PRIVATE CITIZENS AND WE RUN INTO A ROADBLOCK AND WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO NEEDS A RIGHT OF ENTRY TO START DOING WORK THAT WE ONLY DONE AND THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING A RIGHT OF ENTRY FROM THE EDC.

THE EDC CANNOT DEVELOP THE LAND UNTIL THIS IS DONE AND AT LIKE $100,000 A MONTH GIVE OR TAKE A FEW GRAND, I AM SITTING HERE LIKE, I KNOW IT IS NOT YOU BUT AS $100,000 A MONTH AND THE SOONER WE GET PEOPLE INTO THE GROCERY STORE, THEY CANNOT GO WITHOUT A WASTEWATER LINE IN THE CANNOT GET THAT WITHOUT THE EDC SETTING OFF ON THE RIGHT OF ENTRY. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER IN MY MIND. I'M IMPATIENT, WE VOTED FOR TWO YEARS. AT THIS POINT I AM LIKE IT IS TIME TO PUTT OR GET OFF THE GREEN AND WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED FOR US WITH THE AGENDA ITEM AND HAVE

ADDED BECAUSE ANYWAY. >> SO, FRITZ PARK , PHASE TWO IS IN CONSTRUCTION. THE TRAIL LIGHTING, ACTUALLY PHASE ONE IS ALMOST ALREADY DONE. VETERANS MEMORIAL WE HAVE AWARDED CONSTRUCTION AND ARE GOING THROUGH PRE-SUBMITTALS AND ALL THAT STUFF. THE YMCA. THE COST PER DISSIPATION YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THIS ONE. CROSS CREEK TRAIL, THIS IS BASICALLY DONE WE JUST HAVE NOT GOT THE FINAL, ACTUALLY THINK IT WILL BE ON YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING COMING FORWARD FOR ACCEPTANCE.

WE WERE WAITING ON THE FINAL LETTER WHICH WE GOT THIS WEEK.

ADAM R. GREEN TRAIL, THAT WAS PUSHED AS A PART OF THE CONVERSATION THE SUMMER YOU GUYS SAID IF IT IS A TRAIL PROJECT WE WANT YOU TO FIND THE FUNDING, YOU BEING THE CITY STAFF TO FIND THE FUNDING RATHER THAN AS A BORROWING DEBT TO PAY FOR THAT. SO WE ALREADY STARTED THE DESIGN. THE DESIGN IS PRETTY FAR ALONG BUT WE HAVE DELAYED EVERYTHING ELSE ON BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION AND THAT STUFF UNTIL AN ADDITIONAL

FUNDING SOURCES FOUND. >> THAT ITEM WAS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK , WE WERE BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO FUND THAT THE ALTERNATE SOURCES, ARE WE CLOSE TO HAVING A

PRESENTATION? >> YES, CHENEY'S DEPARTMENT HAS THAT AND ARE SLATED TO BRING IT BACK.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> PARK SECURITY CAMERA, BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECT THAT YOU SEE THE PD WAS WORKING ON WITH THEIR CAMERA SYSTEM. I THINK THEY WERE JUST FINALIZING SOME CONTRACT ISSUES THERE AND THEN WE ARE READY TO GET IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BAKER FIELD -- STAND, ALREADY APPROVED, WE KNOW WERE GOING TO INSTALL IT WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE WEATHER TO IMPROVE SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY POUR THE CONCRETE BUT THE THING UP. PICKLE BAR CHORDS ARE IN DESIGN. THE -- DESIGN WAS COMPLETE, HOWEVER WHEN WE GOT TO DESIGN COMPLETE THERE WERE SOME NEW INFORMATION THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US BY THE DESIGN TEAM AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM TODAY AND WE ARE GOING TO TREAT THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT WHICH MEANS WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS A BIT AND THAT'S WHY SEE EVERYTHING PUSHED OUT A BIT. HUTTO LAKE PARK, THIS IS ONE WE SLATED THIS YEAR FOR THE C.A.P., YOU CAN SEE I GOT UP THERE, PENDING -- , THIS IS ONE I BELIEVE IT WAS , I BELIEVE WE SAID WE WOULD HAVE A $400,000 ON THIS

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ONE BUT WE DID NOT ALLOCATE ANY FUNDING SOURCE. TALKING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THIS ONE IS ON HOLD, WAITING FOR A '25 -'26 PARKING ORDINANCE IF CITY COUNCILS ISSUE THAT OUT OF THE REMAINING GEO BOND THAT WE HAD APPROVED. HUTTO LAKE PARK TRAIL, WAITING FOR A FUNDING SOURCE BECAUSE IT IS A TRAIL PROJECT. HUTTO LAKE PARK PLAYGROUND. I'M THING WAITING FOR FUNDING BUT THAT IS BECAUSE WE THINK WE WILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE PARK MONEY THAT WE ISSUED FOR FRITZ PARK ENOUGH STUFF LAST YEAR. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE DUST TO SETTLE ON SOME OF THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TO SAY WE HAVE THE MONEY, LET'S GO. THIS WAS ONE THAT CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIZE THE SUMMER THING WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE PLAYGROUND.

CARMEL CREEK TRAIL, AGAIN A TRAIL PROJECT , WAITING ON A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT ONE. PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, YOU I SAW THAT ONE FOR THE LAST TIME I THINK IN DECEMBER, NOW THAT IS JUST GOING TO BE SITTING ON THE SHELF UNTIL WE DECIDE, WE GOING TO GEO BONDED, DEBT ON, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THAT AND THAT YOU WILL SEE THE JUSTICE CENTER. DRAINAGE, LEGENDS OF HUTTO PHASE ONE DESIGN, YOU AWARDED THAT IN NOVEMBER AND THEIR FULL SPEED AHEAD OF DOING THE DESIGN ON PHASE ONE AND I WILL NOT BORE YOU WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OR ALL OF THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY PROJECTS. I KNOW I SUITED UP PRETTY QUICK, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> YOU DID GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? >> WHERE CAN WE FIND THIS PRESENTATION? IT WILL BE POSTED IN THE CITY COUNCIL TEAMS FOLDER TOMORROW. THE CITY SECRETARY PUTS THE PRESENTATIONS AFTER THEY HAPPEN IN THE FOLDER.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK WE ALSO POSTED THIS

ONLINE. >> THINK ONCE IT GETS POSTED THE COMMUNICATION TEAM PUTS IT ONLINE SO EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS

TO IT. >> ANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ARE

AVAILABLE ON --, CORRECT? >> YES.

>> IS THE MAP UPDATED, THE C.A.P. MAP? WITH THE LATEST ITERATIONS OF THE DESIGNS AND THINGS?

>> I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE. >> SL AN EMORY FARMS ONE THAT HAD THE OLD , LIKE IT TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A TRUCK STOP INSTEAD OF , I COULD BE WRONG. I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

>> I WILL CHECK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO MAKE SURE I HAVE NOT MISSED ANYTHING.

[9.3. Presentation and update on the Justice Center Facility (CIP F02-2024) Planning and Programming Update. (Jeffrey Yarbrough)]

>> OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT IS ITEM 9.3, PRESENTATION UPDATE ON THE JUSTICE CENTER FACILITY, CIP FO TO DASH 024 PLANNING AND PROGRAMMING UPDATE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MR. JEFF YARBOROUGH CHIEF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IN RESPONSE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED FACILITY STUDY TO ASSESS THE CITY PROVOST FUTURE NEEDS ANTICIPATED GROWTH AND INCREASED SERVICE EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. AND BRIEFLY SERGEANT WIGINGTON WAS SELECTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE .

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL , STAFF, CITY STAFF . THIS WILL BE ONE OF OTHER PRESENTATIONS , WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHERE WE ARE ON THE STUDY. TO RECEIVE INPUT AS NEEDED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO, A LITTLE BIT OF DOUBT SERGEANT WIGINGTON. I GUESS I AM IN CHARGE.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. WE'VE GOT OFFICES ALL THROUGH TEXAS. ONE THING ABOUT OUR FIRM IS THAT WE SPECIALIZE IN THE PUBLIC REALM AND A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS PORTS AND POLICE. A LARGE PORTION OF OUR WORK FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THESE ENTITIES. AND THIS ARE SOME OF OUR RECENT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF BOTH STATEWIDE AND YOU WILL SEE QUITE A FEW LOCAL , TEXAS CITIES WE WORK WITH HERE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHO WE ARE. SO, WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE WORKING WITH BOTH THE

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POLICE AND PORTS TO GO THROUGH THEIR NEEDS , WHAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE AND PROJECTING THAT OUT . PART OF THIS IS PROJECTING OUT THEIR STAFFING NEEDS FOR THE NEXT FIVE, 10 AND 20 YEARS. THAT IS WHERE YOU START. WHAT THEIR STAFFING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. FROM THAT WE START TO BEGIN , HOW DOES THAT AFFECT SQUARE FOOTAGE , PARKING , LOT SIZE , SITE SIZE , FOR THE VARIOUS ENTITIES OF THIS. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. AND WE WILL GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. WE WILL TAKE INFORMATION RECEIVED TONIGHT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COURTS AND POLICE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. AND AGAIN , MASTER PLANNING, PHASING , START TO CRAFT THIS PROJECT AND SITE OPTIONS , PART OF OUR ASSIGNMENT WITH THIS STUDY IS TO IDENTIFY, PART OF THE SITE AND MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, TO HELP IDENTIFY, THE CITY IDENTIFY THE LAND REQUIREMENTS , THE SIZE OF THE NATURE OF THE SITE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF BOTH POLICE AND COURTS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. WE WILL BEGIN THAT PROCESS AS WELL AND FROM THAT, FROM A MORE FINALIZATION SCOPE WE WILL START PUTTING NUMBERS TO THIS AND PIECE IT OUT. SO WE CAN COME BACK AND GIVE YOU INPUT, GET YOUR INPUT ON HOW THIS IS IMPACTING THE STUDY. AGAIN, PART OF THIS IS GOING TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF BOTH COURT AND POLICE. PART OF THE COURT IS THAT THEY SHARE A LOBBY , WHICH IS CONGESTED QUITE A BIT ON COURT DAYS AND IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR JUST RECEIVING AND INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC. NO FUTURE EXPANSION FOR THE COURT, THE JUDGES DON'T HAVE APPROPRIATE WORKSPACE, MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS VERSUS KIND OF DEDICATED ROOMS THAT ARE BETTER SUITED FOR A FACILITY AND OF COURSE THE COURT OF RECORD WHICH PROVIDES OR HAS DIFFERENT DEMANDS, ON WHAT THE COURTS NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. ON THE POLICE, THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL LOBBY AND THEY CAN GET QUITE BUSY. THE POLICE HAVE VERY UNIQUE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS, BOTH IN VARIETY AND SIZE AND THEY ARE USING PORTABLES FOR THEIR STORAGE AND EVIDENCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEIR WHOLE BUILDING IS TIGHT, INCLUDING PATROL.

PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE IS OUT OF SPACE , BOTH CURRENTLY AND FOR THE FUTURE AND PART OF PROPERTY EVIDENCE IS PROPERLY VENTILATING IT AND THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ACCOMMODATED FOR FOR DRUGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. CRIME LAB , A CRIME LAB HAS SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT WITH SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT IS NOT ACCOMMODATED. PARKING IS NOT ADEQUATE , IT IS NOT SECURE . AS YOU ALL KNOW IT IS NEXT TO A RAILROAD WHICH IS NOT IDEAL FOR ACCESS AT TIMES IN CRITICAL SITUATIONS. AND WHERE THEY TRAIN IS WHERE THEY CAN FIND SPACE. EMPTY PARKING LOTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. SO, PART OF THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR FUTURE TRAININGS. SO, PART OF THIS, TO HELP GIVE US A ROAD MAP TO THEIR NEEDS IS IDENTIFYING FUTURE GROWTH AND WE ARE JUST FOLLOWING SUIT WITH THE RECENT PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THEM TALKING ABOUT GROWTH IN THE FUTURE AT MILESTONE TIMES, SINCE WE GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM. WE HAVE MET WITH BOTH COURT AND POLICE SEVERAL TIMES . AT LEAST 3 TO 5 TIMES AND WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THEM MORE AS WE CONTINUE TO REFINE THE PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO SEEK EFFICIENCIES IN HOW THE BUILDING WANTS TO WORK AND THE SITE WANTS TO WORK AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT. PART OF THIS IS PROJECTING STAFF FOR BOTH CITY AND COURT AND FROM THAT YOU GET PARKING NEEDS, YOUR GROSS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE

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BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU START. PART OF THAT IS, WE LOOK AT COMPARABLE CITIES, SISTER CITIES, THAT ARE COMPARABLE WITH BOTH GROWTH PATTERNS AND YOU WILL SEE HERE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE USED, SOME SHOW WHERE HUTTO WILL BE IN FIVE, 10 AND 20 YEARS FOR SOME OF THE CITIES AND POPULATIONS. WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND SOME WE HAVE WORKED WITH AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT INFORMATION IS. AS WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THIS WE CAN ASK APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS AND ON STAFFING, STAFFING RATIOS .

AND THAT WE ARE IN LINE AND AT TIMES UNCERTAINTY PERMITS HAVE UNIQUE NEEDS AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE. THIS IS JUMPING AHEAD HERE AND TALKING ABOUT COMPARING CITIES IN POPULATION GROWTH. STAFFING AND PROJECTIONS FOR POLICING COURT.

STANDARDS IN IRWIN WHO HAS A SENIOR PRINCIPAL AT PSW AS WELL. SHE HAS IN WORKING WITH US AND SHE WILL GO IN MORE DETAIL ON THIS. WE LOOK AT FUNCTIONALITY , BOTH WHAT IS NOT WORKING NOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE AND OF COURSE PARKING. THESE FACILITIES HAVE UNIQUE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. HERE ARE SOME POPULATION GROWTHS. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAIN THING TO TAKE FROM HERE IS YOU SEE THE BLUE, THE HUTTO PROJECTIONS AND YOU CAN SEE FOR 2044 , BASICALLY WERE ROUND ROCK IS NOW, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA , LOOK AT ROUND ROCK NOW AND HUTTO IS PROJECTED TO BE APPROXIMATELY IN THAT SAME AREA AND YOU ALSO HAVE ALLEN, WHICH WE ARE WORKING WITH AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN 2023 THEY ARE GOING TO BE , YOU KNOW THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL BE IN 2044. WE USES OF THE BAROMETER TO LOOK AT THEM , DOESN'T MAKE SENSE? WHERE DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE? THIS HELPS GUIDE US AND GIVE US A GOOD ROAD MAP. SO , THIS IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT LAND GROWTH, POTENTIAL LAND GROWTH . DJS, WE KNOW THAT IS A FLUID SITUATION BUT THIS YEAR TELLS YOU THAT FROM WHERE YOU ARE NOW, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GROW QUITE A BIT, COMPARED TO EVEN THE OTHER CITIES WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO , THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT AND JUST PART OF THE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE LOOK AT TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS. GINA SORRY I DID NOT INTRODUCE YOU FIRST.

>> THAT'S OKAY. I AM GINA IRWIN , I'VE BEEN PLEASED TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT , POLICE AND COURT ON THIS PROJECT. SWITCHING OVER TO SPEAKING DIRECTLY ABOUT COURT AND THEIR STAFFING AND JUDGE WILSON BEING YOUR CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL, BUT LOOKING AT THE FACTORS THAT WERE JUST COVERED ABOUT STAFFING, IT WAS REALLY IN RESPONSE TO HOW BUSY THEY ARE NOW AND THEIR ANTICIPATION OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE COMING DOWN THE PIPE. A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH, OF COURSE, SOME NEW INVOLVEMENT WITH POLICE AND I KNOW ONE OF THE VOLUME CHANGES FOR THEM IN THE LAST YEAR HAS BEEN A TRAFFIC UNIT BEING INSTALLED IN THEIR CITATION NUMBERS OF GONE UP. THEY HAVE DOUBLED AND AS THIS CRITERIA , SOMETHING THAT THE JUDGE FELT WAS MUCH MORE TELLING ABOUT THE VOLUME OF BUSINESS WAS COMPARING THE CASE IS FILED. SO, WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMPARISON CITIES AND HOW BUSY ARE THEY COMPARED TO WHAT HUTTO IS DEALING WITH AND REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE MATCHING IN THE AMOUNT OF WORK GOING ON IS THE CITY OF ROLLA AT AND THEIR AMOUNT OF CASES THAT WE PULLED FROM OUR COMPARABLE CITIES. IN THAT REGARD IT FELT LIKE WE WERE IN JUSTIFICATION OF HOW MUCH WORK WAS COMING THROUGH FOR THE COURT IN THE FUTURE. AND ALSO LOOKING AT POLICE STAFFING AND SUPPORT FOR THE POTENTIAL POPULATION GROWTH AND ALSO THE EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THEIR WORKLOAD AND SERVICES PROVIDED TO CITIZENS WAS A CREATIVE DISCUSSION AND WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME REFINEMENT OF

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THIS, THESE NUMBERS THAT THE CHIEF CAN ALSO SPEAK TO IF NEEDED BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE GOT SWORN IN CIVILIAN TOTAL TOGETHER AND AS THOSE NUMBERS SHOW THERE IS AN UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE POPULATIONS ARE AT THESE POINTS FOR OUR COMPARABLES AND WHAT MAY BE MORE CONSISTENTLY OR EASY TO SEE IS THE SWORN RATIO, WHICH IS ONE OFFICER PER THOUSAND AND WHERE THEY SIT TODAY IS AT 1.24 OFFICERS. LOOKING AT THE FUTURE ADDITION TO BUMP THEM JUST ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE DETERMINED IS AN AVERAGE FROM THESE COLLECTED CITIES , FOR SAY THE INTERIM PERIOD OF PLANNING BUT ULTIMATELY IT COMES BACK DOWN TO A MEASURE THAT IS IN LINE WITH AND BELOW WITH THE AVERAGES. AND IT IS A CONSISTENT GROWTH WITH JUST A MODIFICATION TO GIVE THEM MORE ACCESS TO THE SERVICES THEY WANT TO PROVIDE AND SOME OF THE UNITS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH THEM, SPECIALIZED UNITS LIKE CRIME LAB, CRIME SCENE, GIVING THEM SOME BOLSTERED EFFECTIVENESS TO THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS TRAINING COMPONENTS.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT , ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE TRAINING CAPABILITIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY COULD ALSO SHARE WITH THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES AND REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. ONCE WE TALK ABOUT POLICE AND COURT STAFFING , THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROJECT AND WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THOSE OPERATE IN DAILY FASHION AND THAT GOES INTO THESE OFFICE STANDARDS AND WE REALLY WORKED WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND, DOES THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITY REQUIRE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE COLLABORATIVE , WITH A WORKSTATION, AND THEY NEED TO BE IN A PRIVATE OFFICE? THEY ARE SENSITIVE MATERIAL AND ITEMS THAT THEY DEAL WITH AND TALK ABOUT AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SUPPORT SPACES IN THE CASE OF POLICE AND OF COURSE THERE ARE SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE INTERVIEW ROOMS, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT CONFERENCE SPACES AND STORAGE ROOMS WITH THE COURT. OF COURSE JURY ROOMS AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. AS A DISCUSSION POINT AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH CITY STAFF, WE WANTED TO SHOW A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE ARE IN DETERMINING THOSE SPACE STANDARDS FOR THIS PROJECT AND HOW THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT THIS BUILDING HAS PROVIDED, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT BUILD PROJECT FOR THE CITY. SO, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WORKSTATION SIZES, A VARIETY PROVIDED IN THIS BUILDING, VERSUS WHAT WE WERE CONSIDERING AND HAVE INCLUDED IN HOURS.

THEY ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE, THEY'RE REALLY NOT ANY THAT ARE OVERSIZE ARE OVER SCALED BUT THERE IS SOME VALIDITY AS TO WHY IT IS IN CITY HALL AND NOT POLICE BECAUSE YOU GOT SOMEONE WHO'S DOING A LOT MORE DESK WORK AND PLANNING ELEMENTS THAT GO ON WITH THAT. SO, NOT A BIG SURPRISE. AND THE SAME THING IS REALLY TRUE ACROSS THE BOARD. I BELIEVE WE ARE STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THIS BUILDING AND IN SOME CASES WE ARE MORE MODERATE WITH OUR SIZING. THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL PRIVATE OFFICE TO THE LEFT AND THEN 10 BY 12 AND 12 BY 12 OFFICES IS THE MAJORITY OF ANY PRIVATE OFFICE THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH STAFF FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER. AGAIN, YOU MOVE UP TO THE HIGHER, SAY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CHIEF LEVEL, VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE. THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS HAVING A CONFERENCE ROOM FOR FOUR PEOPLE, JUST KIND OF THEIR IMMEDIATE LEADERSHIP TEAM CAN COME IN AND SPEAK WITHOUT TAKING OVER A CONFERENCE ROOM.

AND THEN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE, VERY SIMILAR SET UP JUST SLIGHTLY LARGER AND MORE FORMALIZED. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT SENSE, AS FAR AS OUR PLANNING PROCESS AND THOSE PERSPECTIVES , WE ARE BEING MODERATE WITH WHAT THE SPACES ARE BUT THEY WILL STILL BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WITH CARRYING OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND I WILL LET DENNY TAKE OVER TO TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER INHERENT DEFICIENCIES, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING?

OKAY. >> SO, TALKING WITH THE COURTS , JUST SOME THINGS THAT MOVING FORWARD, A DEDICATED LOBBY WITH A PROPER WAITING AREA TO HANDLE CROWDS, ESPECIALLY ON DAYS WHEN

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YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE INTO THE COURTROOM LIKE DOCKET DAYS. A COURT ROOM THAT SEATS 100 FOR DOCKET DAYS AND SO, A COURTROOM WITH AN AUDIENCE TO SEE 100.

DELIBERATION ROOMS , DUE TO THEIR DEMAND , LOOKING AT TWO JURY POOLS, SO THEY CAN HAVE MULTIPLE INJURIES GOING ON AT ONE TIME DURING THE DAY. SPACE FOR PROSECUTORS WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE NOW AND THEN SOME CONFERENCE ROOMS FOR RETURNING CLIENTS FOR PRIVACY REASONS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS A SECURED PARKING FOR THE JUDGES AND COURT STAFF. ON THE POLICE SIDE, MULTIPLE PURPOSE ROOMS ARE VERY VALUABLE AND WE COMBINE THESE WITH -- AND EOC , TO MAKE THAT A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM AND MAKE THAT EFFICIENT FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT. COMMUNITY SUPPORT AREAS , ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOBBY BECAUSE WE ARE WANTING TO HAVE A PUBLIC REALM AND A SECURE STAFF ROOM AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN A POLICE FACILITY IS CIRCULATION, FOR SECURITY REASONS. YOU CAN INTERACT PROPERLY WITH THE PUBLIC THAT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR STAFF SECURE AND THE BUILDING SECURE. ADDITIONAL INTERVIEW ROOMS FOR VICTIMS AND CHILDREN AND CRIME LAB WE TALKED ABOUT.

SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT , STORING BULKY ITEMS. AGAIN THEIR STORAGE REQUIREMENTS ARE NEVER-ENDING. A TRAINING FACILITY , THIS CAN BE BOTH INCORPORATED INTO THE FACILITY, WE TALKED ABOUT A POTENTIAL SEPARATE TRAINING FACILITY BUT WE ARE SEEING THIS ACROSS AS WE COME CIRCLE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, WE ARE SEEING TRAINING FACILITIES, TRAINING ROOMS, TRAINING FUNCTIONS JUST EXPLODE. AND PART OF THIS IS THE NEED FOR THEM AND HAS TO DO WITH THE COST OF TRANSPORTING , OF POLICE OFTEN TO GO LARGE DISTANCES, LONG DISTANCES , THE TIME, THE COST, PER DIEM'S, OVERNIGHT AND OVER THE COURSE OF PROVIDING YOUR OWN TRAINING FACILITY IT REALLY CUTS INTO THAT COST. WE ARE SEEING THAT TO BE VERY COMMON IN POLICE FACILITIES , GETTING BACK TO HANDS-ON TRAINING. LOCKERS, APPROPRIATE LOCKER SPACES AND EXERCISE ROOMS, QUIET ROOMS , LOOKING TO INCORPORATE AND ALSO A DISPATCH 911 CENTER. SO, SOME OF THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING WE TALKED ABOUT IS ONE OF THE ASSIGNMENTS WE WERE GIVEN IS ABOUT THE SITE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS LOOKING TO ACCOMMODATE NOW AND FOR FUTURE FUNCTIONS FOR THE POLICE AND COURTS. SO THAT THE CITY CAN IDENTIFY AN APPROPRIATE SITE, THE SIZE AND NATURE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS LOOK AT A TRAINING CENTER. THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN INDOOR FIRING RANGE, DEDICATED OR DEFENSE TACTICS AND AGAIN, THESE CAN BE DEPARTMENTAL AND TRACK OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. AND A LOT OF CLASSROOM SPACE. CLASSROOMS ARE EXPLODING IN ALL FACILITIES WE ARE DEALING WITH. ONCE YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A BASIC COMPONENT, THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND WE HAVE ASSET BUILDINGS , STORAGE, VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN BREAK OUT TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES ARE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES SO IT IS MORE COST EFFICIENT AND ALSO THE MUNICIPAL COURT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE AT A 2044 PROJECTION AT 67,877 SQUARE FEET AND OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE WITH THOSE INCORPORATE, BOTH FROM THE POLICE SIDE, AND ALSO IN THIS CASE , FOR REVIEW WE ALSO LOOKED AT A SEPARATE TRAINING CENTER BUT THE TRAINING COMPONENTS ARE BOTH PHYSICAL, SIMULATIONS, FIRING RANGE OF THAT NATURE, YOU ARE SEEING THAT AT ABOUT 46,002 96 AND THIS BACK CENTER AT 4159 WHICH GIVES YOU AN ADDITIONAL 50,455. SPEECH IS THE DISPATCH CENTER ALSO INCLUDE TRAFFIC

CONTROL FOR THE LIGHTS? >> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER, DISPATCH DOESN'T USUALLY DO THAT.

GENERALLY YOU HAVE AN EOC, THAT IS WHERE YOU WORK IN THE

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TRAFFIC CONTROL INTO THE EOC ASPECT, THAT IS GENERALLY WHERE

IT GOES. >> RIGHT, I SAW THE 911 CENTER.

YOU ARE SEEING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE , ARE YOU ANTICIPATING

THAT BEING A PART OF IT? >> PART OF THE EOC? NO. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED PART OF THE EOC IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY. THIS IS STRICTLY DISPATCH.

>> OKAY. >> IF COUNCIL WANTS TO INCLUDE AN EOC IN THE FACILITY, THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD ADD IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL BECAUSE THAT IS MONITORED 24 SEVEN. IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR IT TO BE THERE REGULARLY AND USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN EOC THAT NEEDS TO SPOOL UP, TRAFFIC CONTROL IS ONE OF THE MAIN CATEGORIES YOU WANT TO

HAVE AVAILABLE THERE. >> THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO GET THIS INPUT, CLARIFICATION AND INPUT, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THESE COMMENTS AND GO TO THE NEXT STEP. PARKING, POLICE FACILITIES AND COURTS HAVE UNIQUE PARKING DEMANDS WHEN YOU HAVE DEPARTMENTS IN FOR TRAINING, COURT DAYS AND YOU'VE GOT VEHICLES FROM HOME DURING SHIFT CHANGES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF 382 WHEN YOU COMBINE ALL OF THAT. PUBLIC SIDE DEMAND AND STAFF SIDE DEMAND. AND OF COURSE TRAILERS NEED TO BE ACCOMMODATED FOR AS WELL. SO , WE ARE AT STEPS ONE, TWO AND THREE AND AS YOU ARE SEE WE ARE UP FOUR, FIVE AND SIX TO KEEP REFINING THIS, START DEVELOPING SOME CONCEPTUAL PLANS. PARKING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND SO, WE WANT TO START , HELP TO DEVELOP COSTS AND START TO IDENTIFIED SITE ELEMENTS. WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO AND WE WILL BE BACK AT OTHER TIMES FOR UPDATES AND INPUT BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN

TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. >> I ALWAYS HAVE ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PHASING AND LIQUOR OFFICERS NEED A FACILITY THAT WARNS THINGS TO HELP WITH RETENTION AND THINGS BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY I WILL ALWAYS BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WILL BRING THE PEOPLE THE MOST ? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE A GREAT FACILITY AND GREAT PAY AND GREAT BENEFITS. SO, CAN WE HAVE GREAT PAY, GREAT BENEFITS, AND GOOD FACILITIES? WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE TOOK A TOUR, ONCE A OF THE CITY BUT EVEN SOME OF THE POLICE WITH ME WERE KIND OF LIKE, THIS IS EXCESSIVE, SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, PUBLIC WORKS, THE LIBRARY IS STRETCHED, THE POLICE ARE STRETCHED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WAY TO HAVE IT PHASED AND ALSO MAYBE A WAY WHERE WE CAN COME BACK LATER WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS BUBBLE OF PROJECTS BECAUSE IF WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY , I'M A GUESS YOU'RE TALKING LIKE $80 MILLION BECAUSE OF PUBLIC WORKS I THINK WAS LIKE 60. IF WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY WE NEED 80 MILLION AND THEN WE SAY WE NEED 60 MILLION OVER HERE WE GET INTO THIS PROBLEM OR WE CANNOT AFFORD IT ALL. THE OTHER THING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE LONG-TERM TO SEE THE CURRENT POLICE STATION SOMEHOW REDONE AS A SUBSTATION FOR THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, YOU BROUGHT UP EARLY ON ABOUT THE LONG TRAIN IN THE MORNING STOPPING AND WALKING THE MAJOR EXITS. TO ME THERE OUGHT TO BE WAY TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE . I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CITY JUST GO SELL THE FACILITY AND THEN COME UP LATER GO, WE NEED TWO ACRES. OTHERWISE I'VE BEEN TO THE POLICE STATION, IT WAS OUR CITY HALL SIX YEARS AGO I THINK.

>> AS WE PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER , WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU FOR INPUT BUT , YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH AND IT IS HARD TO CHOKE THAT DOWN ALL AT ONCE. WE HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.

AS WE START DEVELOPING NUMBERS AND WHAT THOSE ARE THAT WILL SHAKE OUT AND WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE OR WHERE WE ARE NOT AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE PHASE AND THAT CAN GIVE US DIRECTION ON HOW

THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER. >> THAT WE KNOW WE OWN SO MUCH LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN BY HAVING THIS AND WE WILL KNOW

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, POTENTIALLY, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES WE NEED BUT NOW WE KNOW AND WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

>> WE WILL BE BACK FOR THAT. >> I LIKE TO ADD ONE THING, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US . AND SHOWING THE REALITY OF WHAT OUR POLICE STATION IS CURRENTLY AT. OF COURSE THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS WITH IT BEING CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS. JUST IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE RAIL ENTER ANY KIND OF CONTAMINATION PRODUCTS OR WHATEVER , THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO AND MAY BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT. ALSO JUST THE REALITY THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE OFFICE SPACE AND THAT -- ARE BEING USED FOR EVIDENCE I THINK THIS BUDGET YEAR WE EVEN APPROVED FUNDING FOR OFFICES TO BE IN A CON XBOX. IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THIS IS WHERE OUR POLICE OFFICERS, PEOPLE THAT KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE, YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE WORKING OUT OF AND THEY HAVE NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE A TRUE INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO BUT IT WILL BE A LONG TERM AND ALMOST A LIFELONG INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY AND ALSO TO HOUSE AND PROVIDE THE PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE AND GIVE THEM THE PROFESSIONAL WORKSPACE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE EFFICIENTLY OUT OF, HAVE LACES TO PARK AND TO HAVE THEIR EVIDENCE IN A SECURE LOCATION AND TO BE HOUSED IN A LOCATION TOO. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD TO HOW WE CAN GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY ARE MAKING IT WORK RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.

>> YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED OF THE FACILITIES WE HAVE BEEN IN

. >> THEY MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE THERE ON THE ROADS AND YOU KNOW , THEY ARE MOBILE BUT AT THE SAME TIME , MAINTAINING THAT PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE.

>> WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE UP AGAINST.

>> THANK YOU, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION AND

COLLABORATION. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT PROVIDE A TIMEFRAME OF WHEN YOU GET TO THE ADDITIONAL PHASES TO COME TO COUNCIL WITH OPTIONS , FROM A GOING TO THE PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW WHAT WE NEED ARE THE OPTIONS PRESENTED EARLIER SO WE CAN HAVE TIME TO PUT THEM IN AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION WITH THE PHASED OPTIONS THAT COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO FOR , THEY WILL NEEDS TO BE TIME TO DROP THAT AND HAVE A CAMPAIGN TO THE PUBLIC, SO, THAT IS A TIMEFRAME I WANT TO SEE FOR THIS FIFTH YEAR SO WE CAN START SEEING THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL FOR THE POLICE AND THAT IS THAT COMMITMENT I WANT.

>> I WOULD SEND 2 TO 3 MONTHS , THE NEXT ROUND, WE SHOULD BUILD UP IN THE OVERALL BIG PICTURE TO YOU . THAT'S WHEN WE WILL START SEEING THE MONIES AND THAT WILL GIVE US DIRECTION ON THE PHASING AND WHAT IS REALISTIC AND WHAT IS NOT. SOME REFINEMENT AGAIN BUT AS FAR AS BOTH GETTING OUT EARLY ENOUGH THE FIRST PUBLIC INPUT, EDUCATION , WE ARE TRACKING ON

THAT SCHEDULE. >> WHILE YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT, YOU SHOWED A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT YOU HAVE WORKED WITH, WITH SIMILAR ISSUES, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING A POLICE STATION /JUSTICE CENTER, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE US, WHILE YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT WITH SOME SORT OF , A CITY SIMILAR TO OURS , WHAT THE PHASING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, HOW MUCH IT COST , WHAT THE TIMING WAS, THAT WAY , EXCUSE ME, WE CAN BEGIN TO DIGEST WHAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INSTEAD OF , NOT THING YOU WOULD SPRING IT ON US BUT WHENEVER YOU COME, ALL THE SUDDEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS IN THE PHASING, I MEAN JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR ANOTHER CITY SIMILAR TO OURS WOULD

HELP. A CASE STUDY, THANK YOU. >> WE JUST GOT THROUGH WITH ONE, IT IS ALL PHASING BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME THING, THEIR GROWTH IS THROUGH THE ROOF AND THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT ALL. WE CAN DEFINITELY GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

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>> THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO SET EXPECTATIONS FOR US AND WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WE CAN SEE, WE NEED TO FIT IN THIS , WE CAN EXPECT THIS COMING OUT AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STRATEGY THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH OF THAT PLAN WE WANT TO PUT INTO A BOND PROPOSAL FOR THE VOTERS TO VOTE IN ONE CHUNK AND OBVIOUSLY THE REST LEFT

DEPEND ON THE LINE. >> WE WILL LOOK AT THIS FROM THE BIG PICTURE AND THEN GO BACK AGAIN.

>> GREAT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT,

[9.4. Presentation and related matters in reference to the Cottonwood PID Improvement Area #2 Plan of Finance. (Alberta Barrett)]

NEXT IS ITEM 9.4, PRESENTATION AND RELATED MATTERS IN REFERENCE TO THE COTTONWOOD PET IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO ,

PLANNING FINANCE. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THIS EVENING BUT FIRST I WANT TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE IN TWO 2019 . IN OCTOBER OF '21 WE ISSUED THE SERIES 21 FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE AND IN AUGUST OF 2024 WE APPROVED AN UPDATED SERVICE PLAN. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PLAN OF FINANCE, WHICH I WILL TURN OVER TO JIM IN A FEW MINUTES TO GO THROUGH. WE WILL ALSO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO DETERMINE THE COST FOR IMPROVEMENT. FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO AND IN FUTURE MEETINGS, THE NEXT MEETING ON JANUARY 23RD WE WILL DO AN APPROVAL OF A FORM OF THE PUBLICATION FOR THE PRELIMINARY OFFERING AND FROM THERE AT THE FEBRUARY 6TH MEETING WE WILL HAVE THE PRICING OF THE ISSUANCE AND THEN ORDINANCES AUTHORIZING THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS AND THEN AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE SERIES 25 REVENUE BONDS AND THEN THE CLOSING WILL HAPPEN FEBRUARY 27TH. WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO JIM AS HE WILL TALK THROUGH THE PLAN OF FINANCE.

>> BEFORE HE DOES THAT CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE THIS IS. EVERY TIME I SEE COTTONWOOD I THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT I KNOW

THIS ISN'T. WHERE IS THIS? >> I PROBABLY CAN ADDRESS THAT.

>> THERE IS NO MAP POINT. >> SOMEONE FROM THE , OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> -- , COTTONWOOD IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF 79 AT THE INTERSECTION , I BELIEVE OF 130. THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. 132. WHERE THE MEGA SITE IS GOING. SOUTHWEST OF THE MEGA SITE.

>> THAT IS HELPFUL, THANK YOU. >> OKAY, I BELIEVE JIM IS ONLINE. WE CAN HAVE HIM TAKE IT FROM HERE.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JIM?

>> NO. >> CAN THE PEOPLE ONLINE HERE

IS? >> WE ARE PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD,

IT IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD HIT. >> I THINK SO. I CAN GO THROUGH IT AND ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> WE PROBABLY DONE 10 OF THESE.

>> IT IS UP TO YOU. WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

>> JUST GIVE US THE HIGHLIGHTS AND IF THERE SOME DIFFERENT WE HAVE NOT DONE BEFORE, OTHERWISE.

>> I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS BUT FOR THIS ONE, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO INCLUDES 262 LOTS. THE ACTUAL FEES PER LOT IS ABOUT $2035. WHEN YOU GENERATE THAT, THE ACTUAL FEE AMOUNT IS , THERE IS A CORRECTION ON THAT ONE. 533,063 . ON THE SLIDE IT IS INCORRECT. OKAY. WITH THAT THE ANNUAL TAXES 432,008 92 AND

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THE TOTAL IMPROVEMENT AREA IS OVER HUNDRED 8,000,003 44 AND IN THERE IS ALSO THE TIMELINE THAT I KIND OF WENT THROUGH

WITH YOU AT THE VERY BEGINNING. >> THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE WAS A LITTLE OVER HALF 1 MILLION? TWO YES. 533,000 , WHAT WE ARE ESTIMATING IT AND THEN THE CITY SHOULD RECEIVE THAT ABOUT 10 DAYS AFTER THE CLOSING. SOMETIME IN THE FIRST

PART OF MARCH. ANYTHING ELSE? >> SOUND LIKE HOW IT USUALLY

IS. >> OKAY, GOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM 9.4 A. CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER ARE DASHED 25 001, DETERMINING COST IN PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER LIVING ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE COTTONWOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AREA NUMBER TWO VARIED DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION MAILING OF A NOTICE OF SUCH PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER ARE DASHED

2501 IS PRESENTED. >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER

CLARK, DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GORDON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

[9.4. (a) Consider approving Resolution No. R-2025-001 determining costs and calling a public hearing to consider levying assessments on property located within the Cottonwood Public Improvement District Area No. 2; directing the publication and mailing of notice of such public hearing; and take appropriate action. (Alberta Barrett))]

HEARING NONE.

DETERMINING COST TO CONSIDER LIVING ASSESSMENTS ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN A COTTONWOOD APPROVING DISTRICT,

AREA NUMBER TWO. >> IT IS GROUNDHOG DAY. ALL

RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD.

>> AYE. MAYOR SNYDER. >> 11.

>> >> THORN.

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES, ITEM 10.1,

[10.1. Conduct a public hearing and consider action on Ordinance No. O-2025-001 for a Specific Use Permit request for the property known as 2725 Limmer Loop, to allow a car wash in the B-2 (General Commercial) zoning district, as an accessory use to a gas station (Unified Development Code 10.304.6). (Ashley Bailey)]

CAN PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-001 -25 FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 2725 LEMMER LOOP TO ALLOW A CAR WASH IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AS AN ASSESSOR USED TO A GAS STATION, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE 10.4..6.

>> FOR THE RECORD, ASHLEY BAILEY, THE BELLMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR. THE ITEM AVOIDS NIGHT WAS BEFORE YOU BACK IN MARCH AND THE DIRECTION GIVEN AT THAT TIME TO THE APPLICANT WAS TO CREATE A PROVABLE SITE PLAN AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT AND THAT'S WHY THE ITEM IS BACK BEFORE YOU. THE SITE PLAN IS IN IN A PROVABLE STATE AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THAT IS ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET. FOR CLARIFICATIONS THAT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF -- AND IT IS REQUESTING A CAR WASH WHICH REQUIRES THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE WITH A STORE AND GAS STATION.

>> ASHLEY, I SEE THAT THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ORIGINALLY DENIED , IF THEY DENIED IT AGAIN IT IS NOT GOING FORWARD. MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT BEING BROUGHT HERE BEFORE IT IS GOING TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT?

>> NOW THEY DO NOT NEED THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

THEY WENT TO ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SEE THEY COULD GET A VARIANCE AND IT WAS A NO, WE WENT TO P&G TO GET THE APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. WE BROUGHT THAT TO COUNCIL BACK IN MARCH AND THE REQUEST HERE WAS TO ESSENTIALLY POSTPONE AND GET YOU IN A PROVABLE SITE PLAN SO WE KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED ON SITE AND NOW WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK.

>> OKAY. CAN YOU REMIND ME, SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE BECAUSE, THE SITE PLAN WE ARE SEEING IS GOOD TO GO?

>> YES. THERE GO. NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST TIME COUNSELS ALL THIS, CORRECT?

>> THE MAIN CHANGES THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF WHERE THIS WOULD BE LAID OUT. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN A PROVABLE SITE PLAN THAT IF IT IS APPROVED WE CAN ACTUALLY STAMP TOMORROW AND THEY COULD BE OFF WITH BUILDING PERMITS TO ACTUALLY BUILD WHAT YOU SEE IN THE SITE PLAN. IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD THE CAR WASH.

>> WHY DID ZONING BOARD , WHAT WAS THEIR HESITATION WITH IT?

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>> THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT , ORIGINALLY BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VARIANCE THAT WAS REQUESTED, OTHERWISE THEY SAID YES. SO, THEY WENT TO ZBA, THEY SAID NO TO SOME VARIANCES, THEY REMOVE THE VARIANCES AND CAME BACK JUST FOR THE USE AND THEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> OKAY. IN MARCH THEY CAME AS I REMEMBER THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE FROM THE CAR WASH IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND THEN COUNCIL NUMBER KOLAR , THEY'VE COME BACK WITH A FINALIZED PLAN BUT DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING , FOR SOME PEOPLE THE CONCERN OF THE NOISE IS STILL THERE. I MEAN THEY HAVE NOT ANYTHING TO MITIGATE IT?

>> I ALSO REMEMBER IN THE MEETING THAT WE ALSO SPECIFY THE OTHER TWO CAR WASHES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO HOUSES IN THIS ONE AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT, THE OTHER CAR WASHES IN THE CITY ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER THAN THIS ONE AND THIS DOES MEET OUR UDC. I THINK WHY IT IS OKAY TO BRING IT UP IS IT IS NOT NECESSARILY --

>> LET ME ASK SOMETHING, YOU ARE SAYING THERE ARE COUPLE OF OTHER CAR WASHES IN THE CITY THAT ARE CLOSE TO RESIDENCES,

RIGHT? >> CLOSER, YES.

>> BECAUSE OF THAT WE SHOULD SAY YES?

>> KNOW I'M SAYING THIS MATCHES THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING AND THAT IS EVEN GREATER THAN WHAT IT NEEDS AND I DON'T THINK THE OTHER ONES WOULD HAVE PASSED THE CURRENT UDC WHERE THEY ARE TODAY IN THE OTHER LOCATIONS AND THIS ONE DOES AND WE SET THE SETBACKS BASED ON THAT. AND THEY HAVE PUT A RECOMMENDATIONS THEY CANNOT HAVE LOUD BEAKERS OR BEEPING, BUSES OR BELLS THAT ARE AUDIBLE OFF-SITE , I THINK THEY HAVE COVERED AS MUCH AS THEY CAN BASED ON WHAT IT IS

ZONE FOR AND SUCH. >> THE ONLY PARTY DISAGREE WITH HIS THAT IS ALL WE HAVE AN SU P, THEY DO NOT MEET THE UDC AND THAT IS WHY THERE'S AN SUV. THE SUV PROCESS IS BECAUSE, I WOULD ASSUME, MOST CITIES DO SO BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN USES AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY , OTHERWISE WE SHOULD SCRAP THE SUB PROCESS BECAUSE ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS MEET THE SETBACK AND IT IS GOOD TO GO. I HAVE STOOD OUT IN A DITCH ACROSS FROM, WHATEVER THAT CAR WASHES, WHITE WATER , YOU CAN HEAR THAT THING PLAIN AS DAY. TO ME THIS IS 100 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENCE. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE IN A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE STORE BUT T KNOW THAT THE CAR WASH, AND I THINK THE CAR WASH WILL MAKE OR BREAK IT AND THAT IS JUST ANOTHER NOISY THING PEOPLE HAVE TO LISTEN TO. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY LIVE HERE AND TO SUPPLY THEM AND NOBODY HAS HIT ME UP FOR ANOTHER CAR WASH. NO ONE IS SAYING HEY, YOU'RE BEING TOO TOUGH, LET THE CAR WASHES GO. I THINK THE STORE WOULD BE GREAT I THINK THE OTHER TWO OF CAR WASHES , ONE ON CHRIS KELLY, ONE ON 685, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO IMPACT PEOPLE WITH NOISE JUST

TO BUILD A CAR WASH . >> I HAVE A QUESTION. UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS COULD A C STORE BUILD A CAR WASH WITHOUT

GETTING AN SUB? >> DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT.

>> THE ZONING DISTRICT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

>> THE C STORE AT GASOLINE SALES IS PERMITTED BUT IT IS ONCE YOU GET INTO THE CAR WASH THAT IS NOT PERMITTED.

>> UNDER WHAT ZONING IS CAR WASH ALLOWED? COME ON, YOU KNOW

ALL THESE. >> I BELIEVE IT IS BE ONE ,

HAVE YOUR COMMERCIAL AREA. >> IS A TYPICALLY FURTHER WAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY , WITH

A 5-2 VOTE? >> A 5-2 VOTE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED FOR CAR WASHES, THE SETBACKS, THE NOISE, THE HOURS .

>> ARE THE SETBACKS BASED ON B 1? OKAY. SO IF THIS WAS P.1 THEY WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE SAME SETBACKS.

>> THEY WOULD BUT THIS IS MORE OF A USE QUESTION. IT IS THE

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USE QUESTION . >> THANK YOU.

>> NO OBJECTIONS, I WILL OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING ON 32. IF THERE IS ANYONE YOU WISH TO COME SPEAK ON THIS ORDINANCE, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

SEEING NONE. >> SOMEBODY'S COMING.

>> THERE WE GO. >> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND ADAM HUGHES AND I'M WITH THE -- DESIGN FROM THE PRODUCE THE SITE PLAN IS IN FRONT OF YOU. I WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS I'VE HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION. THE ZBA PROCESS WAS A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT WE PURSUED TO ALLOW THE CAR WASH TO BE CLOSER THAN THE 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. IN THIS CASE WE CHANGE THE SITE PLAN, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW BACK IN MARCH. THIS IS NOW MORE THAN 30 FEET, IT IS ACTUALLY CLOSE TO DOUBLE THE CODE REQUIREMENT OF THE 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM A SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. ONE THAT HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE AND TWO THE CONDITION OF THE MASONRY FENCE WILL JUST ABOUT HALF THE NOISE THAT COMES FROM THIS AREA, FROM THE CAR WASH. I BELIEVE THE EURO VAC SPECIFICATIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR VACUUM AND CAR WASH PUT IT LESS THAN THE ROADWAY, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A 50 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT THERE ON THAT ROAD AND THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE MID-70 DECIBELS THAT ARE PRODUCED FROM THE CAR WASH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ZBA WAS FOR PRODUCING THE SETBACK BUT WAS NOT RELATED TO THE CODE COMPLIANCE POSITION OF

THE CAR WASH. >> HOW FAR IS IT? TRYING TO SCROLL THROUGH ALL OF THESE POINT

>> 96. >> FROM RESIDENTIAL?

>> FROM SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING, IT IS ACTUALLY A CUL-DE-SAC.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 20 TO 30 FEET TO THE FIRST INHABITED RESIDENCE. TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT .

>> QUESTION. HE SAID THERE IS A EURO VAC OR SOMETHING?

>> EURO VAC. WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP AND SAYS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NOISE, ORGAN HAVE X PIECE OF EQUIPMENT , I ALWAYS LIKE TO THEN SAY, OKAY, HEART OF THE PROCESSES YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THERE BECAUSE I THINK IF WE DON'T DO THAT YOU TELL US ONE THING AND TWO YEARS LATER IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE ASK WHERE IS THE EURO VAC? AND IT IS LIKE, WE DIDN'T DO IT. STAFF SAYS YOU GUYS DID NOT REQUIRE IT, IS THIS, I DON'T KNOW VACUUMS AND ALL OF THAT OR ANYTHING BUT ARE YOU GUYS CONFIDENT IN THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT IF WE SAID IT PASSES AND YOU HAD TO PUT THAT IN THERE THAT YOU WILL COME BACK UP AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE

ON EQUIPMENT? >> THAT IS THE MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFICATION OF THE DEVELOPER , IT WAS REALLY JUST A REPRESENTATION TO SHOW THE NOISE LEVELS AT CERTAIN DISTANCES, SO JUST REPRESENTED --

>> BUT YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEEING YOU TO PUT IT IN. DO YOU SEE

WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS? >> YOU CAN PUT THE SPECIFICATION THAT NEEDS TO MEET OR EXCEED THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD , THAT WAY IT IS NOT A BRAND. BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO REPLACE IT IN 10 YEARS AND THE COMPANY DOESN'T EXIST THEN

THAT'S RIDICULOUS. >> THAT'S FAIR. WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANOTHER THING WE ARE HAVING THIS, OVER NOISE THAT YOU AND I CANNOT HEAR IT SOME PEOPLE CAN. BUT I LIKE THAT

IDEA. >> OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO

ADD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THINKS, SIR. SEEING NO ONE ELSE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 936 P.M. WE WILL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS OR ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

>> I THE QUESTION. YOU ACTUALLY MEANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. MIGHT JUST BE ME COMPLAINING AT THIS POINT BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE LEGAL WHATEVER TO MAKE THIS WORK BUT WE'VE GOT FOUR RESPONSES THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION AND SOUNDS TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PNC VOTED ON OR WHAT WE VOTE ON, WE HAVE FOUR RESPONDENTS THAT DON'T WANT IT. REALLY ARE DOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IS KIND

OF POINTLESS. >> ON THE FIRST ONE TO SAY,

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VOTER TURNOUT IN HUTTO IS NOT WHAT ANY OF US WANTED TO BE.

SO, FOUR RESPONSES MAY NOT CARE ANYWAY BUT TO MY POINT I DON'T

SEE ANYBODY ASKING FOR THIS. >> BUT THEY MAY BE OPPOSING NOT BECAUSE OF THE CAR WASH BUT BECAUSE OF THE C STATION IS THERE LARGELY BY RIGHT REGARDLESS, YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT WAS ONE THING BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SAY I DON'T WANT ANYTHING BEHIND MY HOUSE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD ALWAYS BE A GREEN FIELD AND IF THAT WAS THE CASE IN YOU WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING BUILT IN THE CITY. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COMPLAINT WAS ABOUT, WAS THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING BUILT BEHIND THE CUL-DE-SAC? THAT IS JUST NEVER GOING TO

HAPPEN. >> VALID POINT. OR IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE, WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITH THE DECIBEL LIMIT IN OUR MOTION IF WE DO THAT, THAT CAN SOLVE , I REMEMBER READING SOME COMPLAINTS AND I THINK TWO OR THREE WERE WORRIED ABOUT IT BEING REALLY LOUD.

>> TO PULL THEM BACK UP TO SEE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A REASON BUT SINCE COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAID THERE WASN'T.

>> I DID SAY THERE WAS OR WASN'T , WE HAVE TO LOOK.

>> FROM MY MEMORY ONE OF THE FOUR DO NOT WANT ANY COMMERCIAL USE BUT THE OTHERS SEEMED MORE SPECIFIC TO THE NOISE FROM A

CAR WASH. >> THE FIRST TWO ARE ABOUT THE

CAR WASH. >> MAYBE WE ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE BUT ANYBODY WHO SERVES THE CITY SERVES THE PUBLIC AND IF THEY ARE SAYING NO THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO DISCUSS HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, WE ARE BEING TOLD THEY DO NOT WANT

THIS. >> BUT ONE PERSON DOESN'T DETERMINE WHAT GETS BUILT IN THE CITY, SIR.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> BUT IF EVERYONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WANT THE CAR WASH SPLIT UP ACROSS SOUTH OF THAT LOOP AND YOU GOT 1000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CAR WASH AND THE GAS STATION, YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE ONE PERSON THAT DOESN'T WANT IT SAYS NO YOU ARE LIKE NO, CANNOT BUILD IT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER AND THAT'S WHY YOUR REPRESENTATIVE GROUP, YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE GROWTH OF THE CITY OVERALL, NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL. YES, YOU TAKE THEM ALL INTO ACCOUNT.

>> FOUR INDIVIDUALS, SIR. EVERYBODY'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA WATCHING, I KNOW EVERYBODY WATCHES ME , BECAUSE I LIKE TO IRRITATE EVERYBODY, HAS ANYBODY SEEN ANYBODY OUT THERE ASK , LIKE WHEN IS THE NEXT CAR WASH COMING TO TOWN? CAR WASHES, NAIL SALONS, CHICKEN RESTAURANTS, BURGER PLACES, I'M TELLING YOU, I KNOW WE DISAGREE ON SU PEAS BECAUSE OF HER BUT HE HAS A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT ON THEIR PROPERTY BUT THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE SU P SO THAT YOU CAN START CONTROLLING I MEAN HOW MANY CAR WASHES TO THE CITY OF 45,000 NEED? THINK ABOUT, IF YOU ARE REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR? IN THERE WANTING US TO BE MORE COGNIZANT OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN TOWN, THEY WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT NOISE, TRAFFIC, IS ADDRESSED I DON'T THINK THIS CAUSES THAT FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT BUT IF YOU WANT TO HUNDRED PEOPLE TO COME UP , THAT IS THE EXPECTATION I CAN GET MORE ACTIVE AND OTHERS CAN GET MORE ACTIVE, WE CAN PACK THE CITY HALL FOR EVERY SINGLE SUP OR WE CAN USE OUR COMMON SENSE AND GO, BASED ON OUR FREQUENT MEETINGS WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, BASED ON FREQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR HOAS, WHAT ARE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR? WHAT ARE THEIR EXPECTATIONS? AND I THINK YOU GO FROM THERE BUT I WOULD NOT HAMMER ON FOUR PEOPLE SAID SOMETHING BECAUSE THE IDEAS THAT YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, I MEAN WE CAN MAKE A PUBLIC HEARING LAST THREE HOURS AND WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, OR YOU CAN JUST USE COMMON SENSE AND LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE

SAYING. >> I AGREE. WE HAVE FOUR , ALSO I'M STILL VERY UNEASY ABOUT THIS BEING DENIED BY A VOLUNTEER BODY AND WITH THAT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

>> >> IT WASN'T DENIED.

>> AT THE OUTSET. >> THEY DENIED THE VARIANCE TO SAY THEY ONLY HAD TO BE 50 FEET AWAY IN THE VARIANCE WAS

REMOVED. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I STILL THINK , THE CONCERN WAS WARRANTED AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN ORDER TO APPEASE THAT , STILL THE COMMENTS. THAT WEIGHS A LOT WITH ME. BECAUSE OF THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY

THIS. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. DISCUSSION ON THE

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MOTION? >> JUST MY GENERAL COMMENTS IS THAT THIS LOT WILL BE DRASTICALLY IMPROVED WITH JUST THE C STORE, WITH OR WITHOUT THE CAR WASH. RIGHT NOW I THINK THERE'S JUST LIKE A HOUSE THAT WAS USED FOR FIRE TRAINING PREVIOUSLY , SO, IT WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS ON THIS LOT WITH OR WITHOUT THE CAR WASH AND JUST IN WATER CONSERVATION IN GENERAL IN OUR AREA, OBVIOUSLY IT IS LIKELY NOT THE CITY OF HUTTO WATER RESPONSIBLY, NOT QUITE SURE ON THE MAP, IT IS LIKELY JONAH'S BUT JUST IN WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES TOO, I KNOW THEY RECYCLE, REUSE AND FILTER AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF BUT JUST OVERARCHING CONCERNS THAT TOO AND OTHER, YOU KNOW , JUST YES, THOSE ARE ALL THE COMMENTS.

>> HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORN. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER GORDON ? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER GORDON. >> TRAN 13. NAY.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> MOTION PASSES, 6-1. NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, ANY ITEMS ANYONE WISHES TO PULL, IF NOT I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO IMPROVE CONSENT AS PRESENTED .

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KOLAR , ANY DISCUSSION? ONE QUESTION FOR

THE CITY MANAGER. >> YES, SIR.

>> HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED TO CHANGE ORDERS IS KIND OF THE WAY TO BID LOW AND GET IT BACK LATER, WE GOT FOUR EAR , WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE DO THE CHANGE ORDERS TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT LIKE A BAD BID? AND THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CHANGED OR SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE FIELD THAT IS UNEXPECTED AND

OUT OF THEIR CONTROL. >> BETWEEN THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE CIP ENGINEER, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY WATCHING THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING ON THESE PROJECTS AND IF WE IDENTIFY THE TYPE OF BEHAVIOR THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT THEN IN TURN AFFECTS WHETHER WE OFFER WORDS TO THOSE CONTRACTORS OR CONSULTANTS IN THE FUTURE AGAIN.

>> TO USE ONE EXAMPLE, WO THE $200,000 CHANGE ORDER FOR THE LIFT STATION, WOULD THEY HAVE ENCOUNTERED THAT WOULD THEN

REQUIRE A $200,000 CHANGE? >> I WILL LET MATT TELL YOU, IT IS IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL BUT I WILL LET HIM EXPLAIN.

>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CITY ENGINEER. I BELIEVE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ITEM 11.7 . OKAY. WHAT THEY ENCOUNTER THERE WAS ACTUALLY MULTIPLE THINGS. THE FIRST THING WAS, AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE DOING A LOT OF CIP PROJECTS. WHEN I GOT TO THE CITY WE HAD THE PROJECT ON 1660 THAT WAS TRYING TO GET INTO CONSTRUCTION AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE WORKING WITH DCS TO GET THE DESIGN DONE AND FINISHED ON THE GLENWOOD INTERCEPTOR. SO , THERE IS OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THEY -- PROJECT DID WAS THEY PAVED OVER AN OLD COUNTY ROAD AND MADE IT CEDAR FORK ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, NEVER THE EXACT NAME. I MISSED IT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THE DESIGN WELL I WAS TRYING TO DO THE SUBDIVISION REVIEWS AND I DID NOT CATCH THE FACT THAT THE INTERCEPTOR GOES RIGHT UNDER THAT ROAD AND SO , SINCE THE ROAD IS ALREADY PAVED IT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, IT IS UNDER THE TWO YEAR WARRANTY AND I TOLD THE CONTRACTOR YOU CANNOT CUT OUR BRAND-NEW ROAD, INSTEAD YOU WILL GO UNDER IT AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE OTHER THING IS PART OF THE -- PROJECT, THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING A 48 INCH LINE THAT GOES TOWARDS THE SOUTH TREATMENT PLANT, WHERE WE HAVE TO TIRE

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INTERCEPTOR AT THE SAME ELEVATION OF THEIR INTERCEPTOR FOR THE LIFT STATION PROJECT. SO THERE WAS A CHANGE DURING CONSTRUCTION THAT CHANGE THE ELEVATION OF THE WASTEWATER LINE AND IT WAS LIKE A NO COST CHANGE THAT THEY DID ON THEIR SIDE, IT WAS NOT SUBSTANTIAL FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE IT DIDN'T GET CAUGHT UNTIL WE WERE ALREADY AWARDING A CONTRACT AND SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS NOW FOUND THIS ISSUE. IT WAS NOT A BIDDING ISSUE, IT'S JUST WE'RE DOING SO MANY PROJECTS SO FAST, HONESTLY I JUST MISSED A COUPLE OF THINGS OF, HEY, THIS PRODUCT OVER HERE WILL IMPACT THIS PRODUCT OVER HERE, HOW DO I TIME THAT OUT? JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANAGE 60 PROJECTS WITH 40 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AT THE

SAME TIME. >> I WOULD SAY THIS, MATT, I'M IMPRESSED YOU'RE WILLING TO SAY YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND THEY MISSED SOMETHING BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES , NOT YOU BUT IN MY TIME UP HERE, PEOPLE KIND OF LOW SMOKE AND TELL ME THAT IT IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S DEAL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GO AND SEE ALL THE DETAILED PLANS AND CATCH ALL OF THAT AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED AS YOU KNOW, IN THINGS WHERE TWO THINGS DON'T QUITE LINE UP. SO, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR INTEGRITY. >> QUITE FRANKLY, I CANNOT CATCH AT ALL, I JUST CANNOT. I MISSED THIS AND NOW IT IS COMING BACK TO HIT US IN THE POCKETBOOK A LITTLE.

>> IF HE WOULD'VE CAUGHT IT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE COST ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE BEEN BENCHED AND GONE UNDER A ROAD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND YOU'RE NOT STICKING IT ON THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS, LOT OF CITIES LIKE TO SAY IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE,

PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORN.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD .

[12.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2025-002 adopting juvenile diversion operations as well as creating a fee and a Local Youth Diversion Administrative Fund. (Legal)]

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM HELP ONE, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-0 DASH ZERO 0.2, ADOPTING JUVENILE DIVERSION OPERATIONS AS WELL AS CREATING A FEE AND LOCAL YOUTH DIVERSION ADMINISTRATION FUN -- FUND .

>> I MAKE A MOTION, OH, WAIT . >> YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE.

>> MIGHT AS WELL. HE IS HERE. >> HE'S HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING , LUCAS WILSON, PRESIDING JUDGE FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS REALLY A CHECKBOOK ITEM, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS THE STATE LEGISLATOR CAME UP WITH A YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAM.

THAT IS BASICALLY A PROGRAM THAT CODIFIED WHAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE. I ACTUALLY WAS DOING YOUTH DIVERSION WHEN I STARTED AS A PROSECUTOR BACK IN 1996 BUT THE STATE KIND OF CAUGHT UP TO US AND DECIDED, OKAY, WE NEED TO HAVE A YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAM FOR THOSE YOUTHS WHO ARE NOT IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THERE ARE CERTAIN CHARGES THAT ARE CLASS C MISDEMEANORS THAT ARE NOT HANDLED BY WILLIAMSON COUNTY JUVENILE SERVICES. THINGS LIKE POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA , PUBLIC INTOXICATION, SOME ALCOHOL OFFENSES , CLASSY ASSAULT AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND THOSE HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH COURTS FOREVER. BUT THE STATE LEGISLATOR DECIDED THAT IT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO TRY TO GIVE YOUTH THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE DIVERTED FROM A CRIMINAL CASE OR A CRIMINAL CONVICTION, IF IT WAS THEIR FIRST TIME, IF IT WAS A RELATIVELY MINOR OFFENSE, THEY PASSED A WHOLE NEW STATUTE THAT FORMALLY ALLOWED US TO DO WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING. THIS IS KIND OF A CHECKBOOK ITEM. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS US, IF NECESSARY, TO CHARGE A $50 FEE, IF ANY OF THESE YOUTHS ENTER INTO A JUVENILE DIVERSION PROGRAM AND THAT WOULD BE A FEE THAT THEIR PARENTS WOULD PAY. IT WOULD GO INTO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT THAT WOULD FUND ANY YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAMS , ACTIVITIES , OR PAYMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO HELP MAKE THOSE

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YOUTHS SUCCESSFUL, SO WE HAVE A LOWER RATE OF RECIDIVISM. IT IS NOT REALLY A BIG ISSUE BUT I WANTED TO BE HERE IN CASE YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM OR WHERE THE MONEY

WOULD BE GOING. >> APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-25

DASH 02 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, IS THERE ANOTHER FUND THE MONEY CAN GO TO? I ONLY ASK BECAUSE IF IT IS 50 BUCKS PER TIME, IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF CASES OR A LOT OF TIME BEFORE THERE IS ACTUALLY MONEY SUBSTANTIAL TO DO ANYTHING.

>> YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 125 250 OF THESE CASES A YEAR. EVEN IF WE WERE TO CHARGE EVERYBODY THE $50 AND TO BE HONEST, A LOT OF OUR YOUTH AND A LOT OF THE PARENTS ARE INDIGENT OR HAVE MONEY ISSUES ANYWAY AND SO, WE MAY BE WAIVING THE FEE IF WE GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, ALTERNATELY THE LEGISLATOR MADE IT SO THAT THE MONEY HAS TO GO TO THE YOUTH DIVERSION FUN AND IT HAS TO TO BE USED FOR YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAMS. IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR WHAT IS CALLED A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER, WHICH IS A SPECIAL POSITION THAT IS SET UP WITH IN A COURT , WHO KIND OF MONITORS YOUTH IN DIVERSION PROGRAMS OR IF YOU HAVE JUVENILES WHO ARE ON SOME SORT OF A DEFERRAL PROBATION, THAT JUVENILE CASE MANAGER CAN BE PAID OUT OF THOSE FUNDS BUT THEN WE GET INTO A WHOLE OTHER CAN OF WORMS WHICH IS SETTING UP A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE, FUNDING THAT AND IT IS JUST SO MUCH MORE THAN WITH THE USE DIVERSION FUND COVERS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE CANNOT PUT IT ANYWHERE ELSE. IT HAS TO TO GO TO THIS ACCOUNT, THAT HELPS ANYTHING, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THIS AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT OUR PROSECUTOR USES ALL THE TIME AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A HANDLE ON THIS BUT LEGALLY THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID , WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PASS AN ORDINANCE, SO THAT IF YOU DO CHARGE THAT FEE IT GOES INTO THAT SPECIAL

ACCOUNT. >> IS ONE OF THE SITUATIONS A LEGISLATOR TOLD US THAT WE HAVE TO.

>> ALIGNED ON THE BOOKS BASICALLY.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE,

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORN.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER --

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[12.2. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2025-003 amending Section 18.02.002 (c) of the City of Hutto Park and Recreation Ordinances related to Public Fishing. (Jeff White)]

>> I HOPED ONLY SEE YOU IN THE COUNCIL.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM, ITEM 12.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION IN ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-25 -03. AMENDING SECTION 18.02, .0 02C OF THE CITY OF HUTTO PARKS AND RECREATION ORDINANCES RELATED

TO PUBLIC FISHING. >> GOOD EVENING , MAYOR, -- PARKS AND RECREATION, THIS IS RELATED TO PUBLIC FISHING, THERE ARE CHANGES THAT WE PROPOSE , CURRENTLY THE ORDINANCE SAYS HUTTO LAKE PARKS WILL REPLACE HUTTO LAKE PARK ALL-CITY PROPERLY AND ADDING FISHING LICENSE GUIDELINES AND EXEMPTIONS. ADDING BAIT GUIDELINES, ONLY ENCOURAGING AND ALLOWING PULL FISHING, NO NETS, TRAPS OR OTHER NON-FISHING, NON- -ROD FISHING METHODS. MAKING SURE PEOPLE DO NOT LEAVE TRASH OR DEBRIS NEAR OR DUMP INTO THE WATER AND THAT FISHING IS ONLY ALLOWED DURING PARK HOURS. AND THIS IS, WE WOULD COMMUNICATE THIS THROUGH SIGNAGE, THIS IS JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE WITH YOU TOGETHER OF EVIDENCES WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> WILL THIS SUPPLY TO THE POND OUT HERE?

>> IF IT IS CITY PROPERTY, YES. RIGHT NOW I THINK IT IS CITY PROPERTY BUT , YOU KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER FUTURE

DISCUSSIONS I'M NOT AWARE OF. >> JEFF, ARE THE GUIDELINES

ENFORCEABLE? >> YES. ONCE IT GETS ADOPTED

THIS GOES INTO EFFECT. >> SO THERE WILL BE WAY BEHIND

THE GUIDELINES? >> I BELIEVE , DO NOT HOLD ME TO THIS BUT I BELIEVE THE POLICE CAN ISSUE A CITATION FOR A VIOLATION OF THIS. I THINK IT IS LIKE , THINK THE NORMAL ON

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THE ISSUE IS LIKE , WHATEVER NORMAL CITATION THE ISSUE FOR

THIS STUFF. >> IT JUST SAYS GUIDELINES AND I FEEL LIKE GUIDELINES ARE MORE LIKE SUGGESTIONS.

>> THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, IT WILL BE IN THE ORDINANCE.

>> ENFORCEABLE TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

>> OKAY. >> THEY'RE STILL BOUND BY PARKS AND WILDLIFE FISHING REGULATIONS ANYWAY.

>> WE TOOK SOME OF THE THINGS FROM THAT AND APPLY THEM HERE AND SOME THAT DON'T BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT BODIES OF WATER AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON A COUPLE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON, THE FINE IS NOT LESS THAN $1.00 AND

NO MORE THAN $500. >> THANK YOU. WITHOUT A LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 12.2 AS PRESENTED POINT

>> SECOND. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS WE DID A NO PARKING ORDINANCE LIKE A MONTH AGO, A MONTH AND A HALF AGO THEY PUT UP THE SIGNS LIKE EVERY EIGHT FEET AND IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A JOKE. IF WE COULD JUST HAVE THEM OUT THERE, I DON'T WANT TO JUNK UP, IT LOOKS REALLY NICE, JUST HOWEVER TO SET UP, SO PEOPLE DON'T WALK BY AND START CRACKING UP THAT YOU KNOW, WE OVERDID IT BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. I KNOW I CAUGHT THE DEVELOPER A LITTLE OFF GUARD WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT FISH AROUND HERE FOR PLEASURE AND HOW WOUND UP THEY GOT. I THINK THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO LIKE, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD FISH

IN SOME OF THESE PONDS. >> CHANGING IT TO CITY OF HUTTO PROPERTY ALLOWS US, WHATEVER BODIES OF WATER WE HAD IN THE FUTURE WE ARE COVERED UNDER IT AND I DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT

BACK. >> SMART.

>> OH, THERE YOU GO. >> PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER COLOR. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORN. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR -- >> MOTION PASSES, 3-0. NEXT IS

[13.1. Consideration and possible action relating to Resolutions for the 89th Legislative Session as follows: R-2025-015 - Legislation that reduces or eliminates the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ); R-2025-016 - Legislation mandating Emergency Service Districts (ESDs) to enter sales and land use tax agreements with cities upon annexation, with binding arbitration or mediation if negotiations fail; R-2025-017 - Legislation barring TxDOT from requiring cities to fund toll road revenue losses or maintenance; R-2025-018 - Legislation requiring city consent before TCEQ authorizes a permit for a wastewater package plant permit. (David Amsler)]

ITEM 13.1, TRYING TO GO FAST. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO RESOLUTIONS FOR THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS FOLLOWS. LEGISLATION THAT REDUCES OR ELIMINATES EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. ARE -25-16 , LEGISLATION MANDATING EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS ESD'S TO ENTER SALES AND LANE USE TAX AGREEMENTS WITH CITIES UPON ANNEXATION WITH BINDING ARBITRATION OR MEANING -- IF NEGOTIATIONS FAIL. LEGISLATION, BARRING TXDOT FROM REQUIRING CITIES TO FUND WHOLE ROAD REVENUE LOSSES ARE MAINTENANCE AND FINALLY, OUR DASH 25 DASH 28, LEGISLATION REQUIRING CITY CONSENT BEFORE -- AUTHORIZES A PERMIT FOR A WASTEWATER PACKAGE PLAN PERMIT. OPENING UP FOR QUESTIONS OR ACTION FROM COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTIONED BY MAYOR SNYDER IN SECOND AND DIVIDE COUNCILMEMBER THORN. IN DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. MAYOR PROGRAM GORDON. COUNCILMEMBER CLARK.

COUNCILMEMBER COLOR. COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD.

[15. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. NEXT WE ARE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IF THERE ARE NO COMPLAINTS WILL BRING 15-1 BACK. -- CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY RELATED TO EIGHT POSSIBLE MEMBERS OF THE SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENT WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT ESD THREE. ITEM 15.2, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE --, ATTORNEY CONSULTATION IN SECTION 51-72, REAL ESTATE TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION , INCLUDED BY USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN IF NECESSARY , REAL PROPERTY INTEREST IS A PART OF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP INTERCEPTOR PROJECTS, CIP, W 10 DASH 23 , EVIDENCE PROPERTY LP PARCEL NINE, -- PARTIAL 10, NICK LLOYD, PARCEL ONE, D, PARCELS TWO THROUGH SIX, E, HUTTO 390, D LLC, PARCELS SEVEN THROUGH EIGHT AND F, 3349 BUSINESS HOLDINGS LLC, PARCELS 11

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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jan 09, 2025 City Council

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