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          THERE YOU GO. 
          [(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on February 10, 2025.]
HELLO. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          UM, THE TIME IS NOW SIX THIRTY NINE AND I CALL THIS HATO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS INTO ORDER. 
          MAY I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR CLANCY. 
          HERE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN. 
          HERE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS. 
          HERE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON. 
          HERE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          HERE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN. 
          HERE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TWO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR. 
          UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY? NO, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          MOVING ON TO ITEM 5.1, PRESENTATIONS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING A PRESENTATION FROM MIDWAY ON THE UPDATE FOR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME'S DAVID HIGHTOWER. 
          I AM WITH MIDWAY. 
          UH, WE ARE THE FIRM THAT, UH, IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH CHENEY AND OTHER STAFF WITH REGARD TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY. 
          AS YOU WELL KNOW, UH, I, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY LONG AGENDA TONIGHT, I DECIDED TO MAKE THIS PRETTY QUICK, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, DAVID, YOU, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT IF YOU WANNA TRY IT OUT FOR ME. 
          IT MIGHT TAKE A SECOND. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THIS IS THE, IF YOU'LL RECALL FROM OUR LAST PRESENTATION, THIS WAS THE LAND PLAN, UH, LAND USE DIAGRAM THAT WE HAD PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. 
          UH, IT INCLUDED BASICALLY THE STARTING FROM THE TOP RIGHT AND WORKING KIND OF CLOCKWISE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THAT NORTHERN 84 ACRES NORTH OF MAJOR LANE, UH, RETAIL ON THE CORNER, RETAIL ALONG THE 75, UH, I'M SORRY, 79 FRONTAGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS IS THE LIGHT BLUE AND, UH, FALL FIELDS AND OTHER, UH, RECREATIONAL AREAS IN THE LIGHT GREEN, WHICH IS ALSO RIGHT ALONG COTTONWOOD CREEK. 
          A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED PLAN. 
          UM, MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THE MORE DETAILED ON YOUR, YOUR, YOUR DEVICES. 
          BUT, UH, AS THIS PLAN SHOWS SOME, UH, BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND HOW WE SAW THAT PROPERTY LAYING OUT AT THE TIME. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU CAN NOTICE THE TRAILS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A MAIN, UH, A THEME THAT WE WILL CONTINUE WITH. 
          BUT SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SEVERAL THINGS. 
          ONE IS THIS INTERSECTION OF 79 AND 1 32, WHICH CONTINUES TO BE A, UH, BIG QUESTION MARK, LARGE QUESTION MARK. 
          UH, AND A CHALLENGE ALSO. 
          WE'VE BEEN DIVING INTO THE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES AND HAVE ACTUALLY BEGUN WORKING WITH A FIRM, ANOTHER FIRM IN HOUSTON THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH ON THE RETAIL ON THE CORNER. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE A NATIONAL FIRM THAT ONE OF THE BEST, WE'VE KNOWN 'EM FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          WE'VE DONE OTHER BUSINESS WITH THEM, AND WE'VE COME UP WITH AN UPDATED PLAN. 
          SO MORE OF A, UH, LARGE RETAIL PRESENCE ON THAT HARD CORNER, ASSUMING THE INTERSECTION WORKS OUT SATISFACTORILY. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT CAME TO LIGHT VERY RECENTLY IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, UH, TWO OR MORE POTENTIAL MEDICAL USERS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN BEING IN NORTHEAST WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THIS AT THE BOARD AT THE PRESENTATION IN, UH, JULY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENT OF SEVERAL MEDICAL COMPLEX, UH, PROPERTIES. 
          AND SO, UM, IT, IT WAS MY, UH, IT'S MY IMPRESSION BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE THE DESIRE OF THIS BOARD NOT TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ON THAT TRACK, BUT RATHER PRESERVE IT FOR A MEDICAL USE. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAKES AWFUL LOT OF SENSE. 
          UM, I WOULD DO THAT IF I WERE YOU, , . 
          UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN ALSO INCORPORATE THAT USE INTO THIS PROJECT VERY EASILY. 
          UM, AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN, I'VE MASTER PLANNED, UH, WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT MEDICAL, UH, IN HOUSTON, IN HOUSTON MARKET, BUT LARGE MEDICAL COMPLEXES. 
          AND WE SEE NOW THAT NORTHERN TRACK PRESERVING THAT EASTERN PORTION OF IT FOR, UH, ME, A MEDICAL CAMPUS. 
          THE LIGHT GREEN WOULD BE TOWNHOUSES. 
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WE STILL HAVE THE RETAIL THAT WOULD BE, UM, ALONG THE CORNER. 
          AND THEN MORE MIXED USE IN THE CENTER. 
          AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF THIS PLAN HERE. 
          AGAIN, MEDICAL TOWNHOUSES, WHICH GIVES US SOME OF THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAT WE NEED. 
          ACTS ALSO IS A, A REALLY GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF THAT TRACT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND THE MORE COMMERCIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT A HOSPITAL COMPLEX WOULD BE. 
          WE'VE ALSO BEEN, UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH CHENEY AND OTHERS ABOUT, UH, THE OTHER DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY, LISTENING TO YOUR PLANNING AND DISCUSSION EARLIER DURING YOUR WORKSHOP, LISTENING AND REVIEWING THE, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE PUBLIC JUSTICE CENTER. 
          AND WE'VE INCORPORATED, IF THE NUMBER 12 OVER THERE, UH, IS A LOCATION THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST MIGHT WORK FOR YOUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER. 
          AGAIN, THE RETAIL ON THE CORNER, MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE, LITTLE BIT LARGER SPACE FOR BALL FIELDS, TRAIL HIKE, TRAIL HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS THROUGH THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, A LIBRARY. 
          'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOUR LIBRARY IS LIKE MM-HMM . 
          WAY OVER CAPACITY OR UN UNDER CAPACITY FOR WHAT THEY'VE GOT. 
          UH, AND A RECREATIONAL CENTER, THE RECREATIONAL CENTER BEING ORIENTED RIGHT NEXT TO THE BALL FIELDS. 
          THAT SEEMED TO MAKE AN AWFUL LOT OF SENSE FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT. 
          AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE A HOTEL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A HOTEL, AND THAT WOULD BE NEXT TO THE BALL FIELDS ALSO. 
          SO PEOPLE WHO COME TO TOWN FOR TOURNAMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. 
          THEY'RE NOT CROSSING STREETS TO GET TO THE BALL FIELDS. 
          UM, THE MIXED USE WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF SOME RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, OFFICE AND RE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE SPECIALIZE IN. 
          AND THAT'S THE MIXED USE, MULTI-USE AND THE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT AND THE TRAIL. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO TELL ON THIS EXHIBIT. 
          THE NEXT ONE WE PRESENT WILL NEXT TIME WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, OBVIOUS. 
          THE TRAIL SYSTEM WEAVES ITS WAY THROUGH THERE AND ACTUALLY CONNECTS UP TO THE TRACKS ON THE NORTH SIDE. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS OVERPASS PROJECT IS, UM, PROGRESSING. 
          MIGHT BE A WAY TO POLITELY SAY IT. 
          UH, WE HAD A CONVERSATION, I SAY WE, AMY AND I, MATT RECTOR, UM, AND OTHERS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UP RAILROAD AND T STOCK, UH, ON THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY. 
          AND WE'RE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE STILL HAVE NOT HAD THE FEEDBACK THAT WE REQUESTED ON THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS THE INTERSECTION, UH, THAT WE'VE PROPOSED. 
          UM, IT'S BASICALLY, AND THIS WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE INTERSECTION. 
          THE, UH, IT'D BE SIX LANES, UH, ON 79 WITH LEFT TURN LANES. 
          IT'D BE AN AT GREAT INTERSECTION. 
          AND THE LIGHT BLUE THAT YOU SEE KIND OF DALLY CROSSING THROUGH IT WOULD BE TWO LANES, UH, TWO-WAY, UH, OVERPASS THAT IN THE CENTER THAT GOES OVER THE RAILROAD AND OVER THE FREEWAY COMES BACK DOWN TO INTERSECT WITH MAJOR. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S BEING EVALUATED BY UP AND BY THE RAILROAD RIGHT NOW. 
          AND AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THEM, BUT WE ARE PROGRESSING WITH PLANNING BECAUSE THE LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU DEDICATED TO THE CITY SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS ALONG WHAT WAS WOULD'VE BEEN THE GARVER RIGHT OF WAY BASED ON THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN, WHICH IS BASICALLY THAT YELLOW, UM, DASH LINE THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE TOP LEFT, THAT'S THE CORNER OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF THAT SANITARY SEWER, THAT KIND OF GIVES US A PRETTY GOOD OF IDEA OF WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE GONNA BE NOW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN PROGRESS WITH THAT. 
          BUT THE, SO THE, THE SITE PLANNING CAN PROGRESS, THE QUESTION IS WHAT CAN WE GET APPROVED WITH UP AND THE, AND, UH, TXDOT ON THAT OVERPASS, OUR PARTNER, UH, ON THE RETAIL, UH, PRESENTED THEIR LAYOUT TO A NUMBER OF RETAILERS AT THE, UH, TEXAS ICSC TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          IT WAS EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED. 
          UM, THEY ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A, A PRO FORMA THAT WILL GENERATE THE FORECASTED SALES TAX THAT COULD BE GENERATED FROM THAT. 
          AND IT'S A PRETTY SIZABLE NUMBER FROM WHAT THEY TELL ME, I SHOULD HAVE IT NEXT WEEK. 
          THE, UM, BUT THE RETAILERS TO A MAN, A WOMAN BASICALLY SAID, IF YOU'VE GOT THAT OVERPASS WITH THE BIG WALLS IN FRONT, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. 
          WE'RE NOT COMING HERE. 
          YOU CAN'T SEE US AND YOU CAN'T GET TO US. 
          SO IT'S, UH, IT'S KIND OF CRITICAL THAT WE GET THAT WORKED OUT AND THE SOONER THE BETTER, AND I CAN'T EVEN READ THIS FROM HERE , BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S BASICALLY THE SUMMATION OF WHERE WE ARE. 
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UM, SO QUESTIONS, COULD YOU, SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE AND JUST HAVE THAT UP FOR DURING THE QUESTIONS PLEASE. 
          IF, IF I CAN FIGURE OUT THIS TECHNOLOGY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          . 
          SO IS THERE, WAS THERE ANY FEEDBACK FROM UP AND T DOT ON WHEN YOU WOULD RECEIVE COMMUNICATION FROM THEM? UM, AS I RECALL FROM THAT CONVERSATION, IT PROBABLY WILL BE NEXT WEEK BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US AT THREE, THREE TO FOUR WEEKS, WHICH IN TXDOT SPEAK, IS SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS MY EXPERIENCE, NUMBER OF DECADES DOING THIS. 
          AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I, I WILL TELL YOU, AND I BELIEVE CHANEY CAN SPEAK TO THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. 
          UH, WE ARE REACHING OUT TO SAY, HEY, WHEN, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT RESPONSE MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE WE NEED TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS WHAT'S HINDERING A MASTER PLAN AND A SITE PLAN. 
          IS THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE? I'M SORRY? IS THAT WHAT'S HINDERING CREATING A, A MASTER PLAN AND A SITE PLAN DEPENDING ON, UM, THE OUTCOME OF THAT INTERSECTION? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT INTERSECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S PRETTY CRITICAL THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND IT, AND IT'S NOT THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING, IT'S JUST THAT WE NEED TO KNOW, AND OUR RETAILER TENANTS ARE GONNA WANNA KNOW IF WE BUILD THIS CENTER TWO YEARS FROM NOW, TEXTILES NOT GONNA COME IN OR, OR WHOEVER'S GONNA COME IN AND PUT THESE BIG WALLS RIGHT UP IN FRONT OF 'EM MM-HMM . 
          AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT. 
          I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE A RIGHT CENTER THAT GOES DARK, SO TO SPEAK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UM, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, PHASES IN THE PAST, SO, UM, WITH THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU PROVIDED TO US, WHAT PHASE WOULD BE PHASE ONE? I THINK THAT THE FIRST PHASE, AND, UH, WE SPOKE, I SPOKE WITH CHENEY, UH, SARAH AND ASHLEY, IF I'M GOT THE NAMES CORRECT MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE MET IN A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND TALKED ABOUT PHASING TO THE EXTENT THAT MAJOR LANE AND THE REALIGNMENT OF MAJOR IS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO THIS MASTER PLAN MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN GET THAT, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE FIRST PHASE. 
          BUT I THINK THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOP VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE THE RETAIL AND THE TOWNHOUSES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO RIGHT ALONG 79 AND THEN NUMBER 13 ON THIS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE MAJOR LANE, THE NUMBER 13 WITH THE PUBLIC STREET BETWEEN, UH, THE TOWNHOUSE SITE AND THE MEDICAL SITE, AND THEN POSSIBLY A MINOR STREET THAT WOULD BE FROM MAJOR DOWN TO 79 THERE ON THE WESTERN END OF THE RETAIL SITE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE, UH, CAN'T, AGAIN, CAN'T READ MY OWN NUMBERS FROM HERE, BUT THERE'S A SURFACE PARK, UH, MULTIFAMILY UNIT JUST TO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAJOR FROM THE TOWNHOUSES THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY COULD GO PRETTY QUICK TOO. 
          I'VE HAD, UH, CALLS FROM SEVERAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS WHO'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S ITEM FIVE. 
          AND SO THIS IS PROBABLY TO GENERATE REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON NEXT PHASE. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN HAS THERE ANY, BEEN THERE BEEN ANY DEVELOPMENT ON A CONTRACT, UM, OR PSA? WELL, YES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND, UH, I WOULD REQUEST SOME KIND OF INDICATION FROM, UH, THE BOARD THAT, UH, THAT THIS PARTICULAR LAYOUT, UH, IS ACCEPTABLE AND THEN I CAN START FINALIZING A DOCUMENT USING THIS AS THE FRAMEWORK. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE MUCH, MANY MORE CHANGES FROM A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL OF COURSE, THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE? SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IS, IS GONNA, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FROM THAT 30,000. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH. 
          OKAY. 
          ASSUMING WE CAN ALL, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT. 
          AS FAR AS THE, UH, MIXED USE, UH, LIKE THE TOWNHOUSES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT JUST WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          WHAT KIND OF END PRODUCT IS IT GONNA BE MID RANGE, HIGH END RANGE? JUST WHAT DO YOU FORESEE IN IN THAT? I, I WOULD PRO I WOULD SAY IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MID RANGE TRYING TO HIT THAT, THAT MIDDLE RANGE MARKET, WHICH IS THE LARGER MARKET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW DO YOU ENVISION THE MEDICAL SECTION OF THIS UNFOLDING? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY START OFF WITH SOME KIND OF A SMALLER, UM, EMERGENCY CARE FACILITY. 
          PROBABLY ONE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. 
          UH, ST. 
          DAVID'S BOUGHT A SITE ABOUT 50 ACRES IN SIZE IN LEANDER A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, 2016, I THINK. 
          2015. 
          AND THEY, THEIR 
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FIRST PHASE WAS A EMERGENCY CENTER BUILDING, UH, AND THEN A, UH, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, SMALL BUT RESPECTABLE IN SIZE. 
          SURE. 
          AND THEN OVER TIME THEY START ADDING TO IT, AND THEN, THEN THE BIG HOSPITAL COMES, AND THEN THESE, THESE THINGS JUST KIND OF EVOLVE OVER TIME AS THE POPULATION GROWS AND DEMAND GROWS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE SEEING THIS WITH BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE DOWN IN FLU. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY'RE EXPANDING THEIR, THEIR FOOTPRINT AND CAPACITY. 
          I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UM, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT OWN HOSPITALS FOR THAT PURPOSE ARE NOT, UH, A VALOREM SALES TAX. 
          I MEAN, UH, PROPERTY TAX PAYERS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THE, THE HOSPITAL WOULD NOT BE THAT AL OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD BE. 
          RIGHT? I MEAN, IF YOU ARE, UM, UH, IF YOU'RE THE, THE WAY THESE ARE TYPICALLY ARE DESIGNED, I'VE DONE ONE, ACTUALLY, IT WAS IN A MUD, WE HAD TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE TAX BASES. 
          BUT, UM, IF YOU PUT THE HOSPITAL IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN YOU SURROUND IT WITH POTENTIAL, UM, MEDICAL BUILDINGS, NOT ONLY ARE THE MEDICAL MEDICAL BUILDINGS TAXABLE, BUT THE SIGNIFICANTLY COST MEDICAL EQUIPMENT IS IN ALSO INSIDE THOSE, WHICH IS ALSO TAXABLE. 
          AND SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AN MRI AREA OR CT SCAN, THO, THOSE KIND OF MATERIALS ARE, ARE SIGNIFICANTLY EXPER, UH, EX UH, EXPENSIVE AND, AND BRING, UH, UM, BRING TAX TO THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I GUESS FOR ME, JUST, UM, IT HITS THAT QUALITY OF LIFE, RIGHT? BRINGING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA FRACK QUALITY FOR THE MM-HMM . 
          FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CHANGE THE QUESTION. 
          I HAVE, MATT'S LOOKED AT THIS. 
          SO FROM A CIVIL ENGINEERING LENS, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AS FAR AS THE FLOODPLAIN, WHERE THE BALL FIELDS ARE LOCATED, UM, WE'RE KIND OF COMFORTABLE WITH THE MIX OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA BE PUT IN THERE. 
          THERE WASN'T ANY ISSUES FROM HIS LENS. 
          UH, WE'VE NOT VETTED IT TO THAT LEVEL WITH ENGINEERING YET. 
          HE SAW, I BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT COMMUNICATIONS. 
          I BELIEVE HE SAW THE EARLIER CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH HAD IT KIND OF ZONED OUT AS FAR AS THE TYPES OF USES. 
          BUT HE HAS NOT SEEN THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL ON THE PROPERTY YET. 
          AND I WAS GONNA SAY, I REALIZE THIS IS A, A SCHEMATIC, SO I'M ASSUMING THERE WILL BE SOME ONSITE DETENTION AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND, AND OUR ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A, A PLAN TO WORK IS THAT ATLAS 14 PUSHES THAT, THAT COTTONWOOD CREEK YEAH. 
          FURTHER INTO THAT PROPERTY THAN HAD PREVIOUS, AT LEAST BEFORE 2014. 
          THAT WAS MORE DEVELOPABLE THAN IT IS NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          PAIN FI AM PAINFULLY FAMILIAR WITH ATLAS 14 AND I, AND AS FAR AS THE UTILITY, UH, AND AND STUFF, WE DID SUBMIT A, A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST THAT ACTUALLY YOU SUBMITTED IT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, YOU OWN THE PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE TO OWN THE PROPERTY TO SUBMIT ONE. 
          IT HAS BEEN THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE SENT IT BACK, UH, REQUESTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          AND SO WE'RE REVISING IT BASED ON THIS PLAN NOW. 
          'CAUSE THE, SOME OF THE USES HAVE CHANGED, WHICH MEANS THE DENSITY HAS CHANGED AND THE WATER AND WASTEWATER DEMAND NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. 
          WHAT AREA, WHAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, STARTS TO HAPPEN WITH EMERGENCY, UH, SERVICES BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY IF THERE'S LIKE AMBULANCE OR THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, FIRE TRUCKS, UH, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WE LIKE THE JUSTICE CENTER UP THERE AT THE INTER WHAT WILL BE A, A SIGNALED INTERSECTION OF MAJOR LANE AND 1 32 IS THAT, THAT PUTS 'EM RIGHT THERE ON THAT ROADWAY JUST OFF OF 79. 
          SO THEY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY IN THAT CONGESTION. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH SEC PLANNING TO BASICALLY PUT IN A MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS TOGETHER, UM, THAT WOULD CONFORM WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR PLANNING, ZONING, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND THERE, AND I GOT IT LATE FRIDAY, SO I APOLOGIZE, IT'S NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT ACTUALLY TAKES MAJOR AND, AND CONSISTENT WITH YOUR LONG TERM TRANSPORTATION PLAN, MOBILITY PLAN TAKES IT OVER AND INTERSECTS TO LEMUR LOOP TO THE EAST. 
          MM. 
          SO WE SEE THAT AS BEING A PRETTY CRITICAL INTERSECTION. 
          AND THE REASON MAJOR HAS ALSO PUSHED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF A CON OVERPASS CONNECTION LIKE WE ARE, HAVE SUGGESTED WITH OUR ALTERNATIVE DESIGN, THEN YOU, YOUR EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES CAN GET OVER THE HIGHWAY AND OVER THE RAILROAD WITHOUT GETTING STOPPED. 
          AND THAT WAS VEHICLE. 
          AND I, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT 'CAUSE I HAVE A PROJECT IN HOUSTON AND A NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE GOT A, IT'S A RAIL CROSSING REAL CLOSE TO US, AND I'VE SEEN RAIL TRAIN STOP AND FIRETRUCK OVER THERE WITH THE LIGHTS GOING AND THEY CAN'T GET ANYWHERE MM-HMM . 
          SO I'M, I'M PAINFULLY AWARE OF THAT. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE 20, 24 YEARS AND I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS AND THEY HAD TO SIT AT THAT LIKE THERE, SO. 
          I AGREE. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHO IS OVERSEEING OR WHO HAS OVERSEEN ANY GEOTECHNICAL SURVEYS? THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK WAS SUBBED THROUGH A PAP DAWSON, 
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OUR ENGINEERING FIRM. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS TERRA CON. 
          I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE. 
          AND THAT WAS DONE HOW LONG AGO? COUPLE MONTHS AGO AT LEAST. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND I'VE ALSO AUTHORIZED 'EM TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK TO GET THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE IF THE, IF THE THE ARRANGEMENT HAS CHANGED, THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS AND SPECS HAVE SHIFTED SOME, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU'D WANT TO HAVE THAT DONE. 
          WELL, THE, THE THING THAT I FO I'M FOCUSING ON, I SAY I'M THE LAND DEVELOPER, RIGHT. 
          UH, AND I'M FOCUSING ON GEOTECH AS IT RELATES TO THE UTILITIES AND THE STREETS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET THOSE, UH, DONE PROPERLY. 
          THE, EACH INDIVIDUAL BUILDING WILL HAVE A GEOTECH ANALYSIS DONE AS PART OF THE DESIGN WORK OF THAT. 
          SO THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF GEOTECH STUDIES DONE ON THIS PROJECT OVER TIME. 
          AND I WOULD IMAGINE TEXDOT HAS DONE THEIR OWN AS WELL. 
          I WOULD ASSUME SO, BUT I, I NEVER MAKE ASSURANCES WITH TEXDOT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I LIKE THIS MASTER PLAN, HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE, UM, GREAT TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS OR THAT ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOALS JUST SO THAT WE HAVE SOME IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, THESE SAME OBJECTIVES BUT REARRANGE IN DIFFERENT, IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET LIKE ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MASTER PLAN, AND I, AGAIN, I HOPE IT'S NOT LIKE TOO MUCH WORK, BUT JUST SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER, NOT JUST THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR, BUT UM, SOMETHING TO LIKE OTHER OPTIONS TO WORK WITH THESE. 
          SURE. 
          THAT'S EASY. 
          AND WE WOULD DO THAT AS PART OF OUR ZONING PREPARATION ANYWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE WHAT WE'LL BE COMING IN WITH IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TYPE ZONING APPLICATION THAT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY. 
          WE DON'T WANNA SUBMIT A PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WE WANT A PLAN THAT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THE MARKET DEMAND WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GETTING THOSE SAME USES IN THE SAME PROXIMITY LIKE WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO YOU HAVE A WALKABLE TYPE MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MONEY WELL SPENT, BUT WE COULD GIVE YOU THE GO AHEAD TONIGHT. 
          GENERALLY, IS THAT A BOAT OR IS THAT JUST CONSENSUS SO THEY CAN START WORKING ON THAT CONTRACT? WELL, I THOUGHT IT, WE WERE WAITING ON FOR UP AND TDOT BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          IS THAT TRUE? AM PUSHING FORWARD WITH MY PLANNING. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M NOT WAITING ON THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE WILL GET TO A POINT SOONER THAN LATER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY, WE, WE'VE GOTTA KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS INTERSECTION BEFORE WE CAN START ADVANCING CON, YOU KNOW, DESIGN DOLLARS ON CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          HMM. 
          WE'RE, I'VE GOTTA DESIGN A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH OUR RETAIL PLANNERS AND OUR MASTER PLANS, UH, ARCHITECT TO WORK ON MAKING SURE THAT THE RETAIL SITE LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABSOLUTELY PART OF AND WAS TOTALLY PART FROM DAY ONE, PART OF THE MIXED USE STUFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE DON'T WANT TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WANT IT ALL TO BE THE SAME. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          SO WE'RE DOING THAT NEXT MONDAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DAVID, HI. 
          IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU. 
          UM, THANKS FOR COMING AND DOING ALL OF THIS. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, BEFORE I WAS ON THIS BOARD AND I JUST WAS IN THE AUDIENCE THERE WATCHING A PRESENTATION WHERE THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT TRAILS AND CONNECTIVITY TO OTHER WALKABLE AREAS. 
          UM, AND I'M JUST, JUST LOOK, AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS PLAN, IT LOOKS VERY THOUGHTFUL. 
          UM, THE, THE BLUE 1, 2, 3, 4, AND 12 ARE ON THE END OF WHERE THOSE TRAILS MIGHT MEET OTHER CONDUCTIVITY. 
          IS, AM I LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY? WELL, IT, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE THAT THE TRAIL DOESN'T REALLY LEAP OUT AT YOU ON THIS ONE, BUT THE TRAIL DOES COME UP, UH, PAST, UH, THE CARROLL DRIVE AND THE OTHER, UH, NORTH, SOUTH STREET IN, IN KIND OF A LARGE, UM, GREEN OPEN SPACE BEHIND THE RETAIL CENTER. 
          UM, AND THEN TIES OR COMES UP INTO IT KIND OF INTO WHERE 14 IS. 
          YOU KIND OF SEE THAT KIND OF LITTLE ORANGE LINE IN THERE. 
          MASTER PLANNING, THE MEDICAL COMPLEX WOULD INCLUDE TAKING THAT TRAIL FURTHER NORTH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON WHERE DO WE INTERSECT THAT TRAIL AT LEMUR BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE IS PROTECTED MM-HMM . 
          AND WHETHER THE TRAIL NEEDS TO SOMEHOW WORK ITS WAY OVER TO THE INTERSECTION OF LEMUR 1 32, WHICH WILL BE SIGNALED AT SOME POINT. 
          DO WE BRING IT OVER TO THE EAST TO THE NORTH, SOUTH STREET THAT'S DIVIDES 13 AND 14. 
          THAT'S JUST PLANNING 
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DETAILS. 
          BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY PLAN TO BRING THAT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL UP THROUGH THERE. 
          UH, SEVERAL OF THE OFF MEDICAL COMPLEXES, I'VE WORKED WITH THEM IN THE PAST, THEY ALL HAVE TRAILS AROUND THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR PATIENTS TO GET OUT AND WALK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GET FRESH AIR, GET EXERCISE, MOVE. 
          AND SO WE WOULD INCLUDE DEFINITELY INCLUDE TRAIL, UH, CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THAT COMPLEX. 
          AND I'M SURE THE TOWNHOUSE COMPLEX WOULD DO THE SAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WITH THE TOWNHOUSE AND THE, UM, MEDICAL COMPLEX BEING ALIGNED RIGHT THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO SOMETHING, UM, THAT WOULD SERVE POTENTIALLY BOTH, UM, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          BUT TO THE NORTHWEST, YOU ALSO HAVE WHERE COTTONWOOD CREEK COMES DOWN, YOU HAVE THE OTHER BALL FIELDS FROM THE CITY'S CURRENT PARK ALONG WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S LOCATED THERE. 
          SO THE TWO QUESTIONS THEN THE CONNECTIVITY ACROSS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMEHOW HOW OR ANOTHER BRIDGE HEAD OVER THAT DRAINAGE BASIN. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IS MER GOING TO BE IMPROVED ALL THE WAY BACK THROUGH TOWN IN ANY WAY? IS THAT PART OF THIS? OR IS IT ONLY ANTICIPATING GOING TO LIMMER? IT, IT MAJOR'S ONLY. 
          OUR PLAN IS ONLY FOR REALIGNMENT OF IT AND WIDENING IT, UH, WHICH IS WHAT OUR TAI IS GONNA REQUIRE. 
          THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ON MER THAT TAKE YOU IN FRONT OF THE ELEMENTARY. 
          OF COURSE THE ELEMENTARY HAS SIDEWALKS. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ACROSS THE STREET, YOU GOT A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS SIDEWALKS MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE'S CONNECTIVITY TO THE NORTHWEST THAT WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE, YEAH. 
          AND I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS ARE, ARE COLLABORATING WITH PARKS AND YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THINGS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CONTIGUOUS. 
          AND AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD PLAN FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WHERE OUR TRAIL COMES TO COTTONWOOD CREEK TO GET OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT YOU, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT WE'RE PRESERVING AN ALIGNMENT FOR LIVE OAK THROUGH HERE TOO. 
          NOW WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD LIVE OAK 'CAUSE THAT BRIDGE IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT AT SOME POINT THAT CONNECTION IS PROBABLY GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. 
          SO, AND THAT'S LIKE BETWEEN THE THREE AND FOUR FOUR WE'RE THAT ALIGNMENT FOR THE STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR IS WHERE THAT PRESERVED ALIGNMENT IS. 
          IS THAT THE WAY? AM I LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY? OR IS IT BETWEEN, IT'S BETWEEN TWO AND THREE. 
          YES. 
          IT'S BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR. 
          YOU SEE THAT DASH LINE IN THERE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE PRESERVATION FOR LIVE OAK. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          PRETTY COOL FOR CONNECTIVITY TO OLD TOWN AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO THE CO-OP SO THAT, THAT WAY IT'S NEW PARK BEING BUILT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY ALSO YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          THAT'LL RUN THROUGH THE PARK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          COOL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          MY PLEASURE. 
          HAVING GUESS, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, DAVID. 
          THANK YOU DAVID. 
          REAL QUICK, BEFORE, UH, THERE IS AN OPTION FOR ACTION ON THIS ITEM BOARD, UM, DAVID, COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT TYPE OF ACTION YOU WOULD REQUEST FROM THE BOARD IN ORDER TO PROCEED? DO YOU WANT FORMAL ACTION SAYING THAT YOU APPROVE OF THE INITIAL CONCEPT AND TO PROCEED WITH YOUR PLANNING AND THE CONTRACT? VERY NICE TO HAVE ALONG WITH ANOTHER EXTENSION OF OUR MOU. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE, UH, EXTENSION DATE HERE, I THINK NEXT MONTH. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY DRAFT LANGUAGE? I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE FOR AN EXTENSION OF MOU. 
          NO, THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. 
          WE CAN SUBMIT THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT CAN BE DIRECTION ALSO BECAUSE WE CAN'T TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXTENSION THAT MOU PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE DESIGN OF THE INTERSECTION. 
          NO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH THE CURRENT PLAN. 
          CORRECT. 
          I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          WE'VE COME BACK WITH A COUPLE OTHER OPTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AND THEN, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, DRAFT LANGUAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MIDWAY FOR AN EXTENSION ON AN MOU. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AND SECONDED BY MCGOUGH BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          UM, CAN YOU CALL VOTE PLEASE? TREASURER? GIDEON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN? AYE. 
          VOTE PASSES. 
          SEVEN. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU DAVID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY, 5.2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING, UH, PRESENTATION FROM S VERANDA CINEMAS LLC OF ANY UPDATE ON PROJECT V. 
          HELLO, I'M KIT SHEFFIELD. 
          THIS IS CHARLIE TEVI AND THIS IS CHRIS KLEIN. 
          SO WE'RE HERE WITH VERA CINEMAS REPRESENTING THE NEW FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT'S BEING BUILT CURRENTLY. 
          AND, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS WITH IT AND SOME CLARIFICATIONS 
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THAT WE SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO CLEAR UP WITH EVERYONE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          AND SO WE'VE UM, BROUGHT A PRESENTATION HERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT'S BEING BUILT, UH, CONTAINS AND, AND WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS. 
          AND LET YOU LET YOU ALL SEE IT FOR YOURSELVES AND, AND WE CAN DISCUSS MM-HMM . 
          SO WE CAN WALK THROUGH THIS PLAN. 
          THE CLICKER UP THERE? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          OH YEAH. 
          SHOULD BE GOOD. 
          SO THIS IS THE FOOTPRINT AND UH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM AN OVERALL VIEW, UM, THE BOWLING LANES UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER WITH THE LARGE KITCHEN, UH, OUR LARGE SCRATCH KITCHEN TO THE LEFT, UM, STRAIGHT DOWN ON THE RIGHT PLAN SOUTH TO THE RIGHT IS THE GAME ROOM. 
          AND THEN YOU GO AS YOU START HEADING INTO THE AUDITORIUMS, AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS IN THE PRE IN IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, YOU'VE GOT THE IMAX AUDITORIUM THERE, THAT FIRST LARGE AUDITORIUM ON THE UPPER MIDDLE. 
          UM, NEXT TO IT IS THE DOLBY ATMOS AUDITORIUM, WHICH IS OUR OTHER PLF. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER SIX AUDITORIUMS WILL BE DOLBY, UH, UH, SOUND AS WELL ALL DOLBY SOUND. 
          SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED. 
          UH, AND WE ARE, THIS IS EVERYTHING IS STATE OF THE ART. 
          YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE DO ONE OF THESE, IT IS THE, IT IS THE NEWEST OF THE NEW AND THE GREATEST OF THE GREAT. 
          SO WE WORK WITH ALL THE, WE WORK WITH DOLBY, WE WORK WITH BARCO, WE WORK WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS TO BRING YOU LITERALLY THE BEST OF THE BEST. 
          SO LET'S WALK THROUGH THIS. 
          UH, UM, SO THIS IS ENTERING THE BUILDING AND I'M SORRY THAT THESE ARE, UH, KIND OF BLACK AND WHITE AND THEY DON'T REALLY REPRESENT WHAT THE COLOR PALETTE'S GONNA BE, BUT, UM, I HAD THE ARCHITECT PUT THIS TOGETHER SO WE COULD WALK THROUGH IT. 
          THIS IS BASICALLY ENTERING THE LOBBY. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE. 
          YOU'VE GOT YOUR BOWLING ALLEY TO THE RIGHT AND YOUR GAME ROOM TO THE RIGHT. 
          YOU'VE GOT YOUR GUEST SERVICE THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          GOT YOUR KIOSKS, UH, TO THE LEFT WHERE YOU'D PURCHASE TICKETS. 
          AND STRAIGHT AHEAD IS YOUR, IS YOUR CONCESSION AREA. 
          UM, ANOTHER VIEW WHERE YOU KIND OF PAN TO THE RIGHT, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE BOWLING AND MORE OF THE GAME SPACE. 
          THIS IS YOUR GRAB AND GO AND YOUR CONCESSION AREA. 
          SO YOU CAN BASICALLY, YOU'LL GO UP TO THE COUNTER AND YOU'LL ORDER YOUR FOOD. 
          UM, YOU CAN, UH, YOU FILL YOUR OWN SODAS, YOU CAN REFILL YOUR OWN SODAS, YOU CAN REFILL YOUR OWN POPCORN. 
          AND UH, YOU CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS IS, IS WE HAVE QR CODES EVERYWHERE AND, AND MOBILE APP STORE. 
          YOU CAN ORDER FOOD ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING, INCLUDING THE AUDITORIUMS. WE WILL DELIVER IT TO YOU. 
          THIS SHOWS GOING INTO THE, UH, ENTRY AUDITORIUM. 
          THIS IS, UH, EVENT ROOM A AND B. 
          THESE ARE PARTY ROOMS THAT ARE NEXT TO THE, UH, IMAX AUDITORIUM. 
          THIS PANS US AROUND. 
          WE WON'T GO INTO THE AUDITORIUMS IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          UM, THIS IS LOOKING BACK FROM THE AUDITORIUMS AS YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THE AUDITORIUMS. THIS IS WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. 
          THERE'S A REDEMPTION ROOM WHERE IT SAYS WIN-WIN, WIN. 
          AND THEN THAT'S THE, UH, LARGE GAME ROOM. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THE, UH, THE BOWLING ALLEY THERE TO THE LEFT. 
          ANOTHER VIEW, THIS IS SORT OF TO THE RIGHT, LOOKING FROM ALMOST THE REDEMPTION ROOM, UM, TOWARDS THE BAR. 
          THERE'S A BAR DOWN THERE WHERE THOSE, THOSE THREE, UH, UH, DISPLAYS ARE THAT ARE PINK. 
          THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THAT'S THE BAR AND A LARGE SEATING AREA THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          AND WE WILL HAVE SOME, UH, UM, SOME HIGH END GAMES AND, YOU KNOW, INTERACTION THERE IN THAT SPACE AS WELL. 
          UH, THIS IS THE BAR. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER SHOT OF THE BAR. 
          UM, THE BAR AREA. 
          THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE BAR, FROM THE SIDE OF THE BAR, UH, BASICALLY THROUGH THE BAR TO THE BOWLING ALLEY. 
          AND THIS, LOOKING FROM THE BOWLING ALLEY BASICALLY OUT TO THE FRONT DOOR. 
          THIS IS, THAT'S YOUR REDEMPTION CENTER THERE TO THE LEFT. 
          UH, GUEST SERVICE AND BOWLING CHECK-IN ARE THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THIS LOOKS FROM THE CORNER OF THE GAME ROOM, THE BACK CORNER, KIND OF LOOKING INTO THE LOBBY, INTO THE BOWLING. 
          UM, THE EXCITING THING, AND, AND KIT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS ON THE, UH, THOSE, THOSE LARGE, THAT LARGE PINK SCREEN THAT YOU SEE ON THE BOWLING ALLEY THERE. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA DO PROJECTORS NOW WE'RE BRINGING IN A LARGE LED SCREEN. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE A, A GIANT LED SCREEN THERE. 
          A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PERSPECTIVE THERE. 
          UM, THE SCREEN IS VERY, VERY LARGE. 
          IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY TWO LARGE SCREENS ASPECT RATIO WISE, IT'S 68 FEET WIDE AND, UM, 18 FEET TALL. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          I MEAN, YOU GUYS JUST FIELD ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE AND BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE. 
          UM, ONCE IT'S FULLY BUILT, WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT'S THE NUMBER STAFF THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TO FULLY OPERATE IT? WE HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 60 TO 80. 
          OKAY. 
          DEPENDING ON THE SEASON. 
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AS THE HOLIDAYS COME, THE SUMMER COMES, WE'LL STAFF UP SEASONAL AND THEN WE'LL FLEX DOWN AS NEEDED. 
          BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY NOT. 
          70 IS A, IS A GOOD NUMBER THAT WE'LL HAVE AT ALL TIME. 
          HEY CHARLIE, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC? 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ON A RECORDING. 
          SORRY. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          60 TO 80 . 
          OUT OF THOSE, UM, FTES, ARE YOU GONNA BE RELOCATING SOME OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPERATION STAFF FROM OTHER LOCATIONS OR ARE YOU HOPING TO HIRE THOSE PEOPLE LOCALLY AND TRAIN THEM UP? WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THAT? WE WILL, UH, HAVE TRAINERS FROM OUR OTHER LOCATIONS TO COME TRAIN, BUT WE IDEALLY WANNA HIRE FROM THE CITY AND BRING PEOPLE HERE. 
          WE WANNA HAVE OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM LIVE HERE, AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN. 
          UM, SO AS MUCH LOCAL AS WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M, UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ASK THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM QUESTION. 
          UM, OH WAIT, HIP, THE HIPPO IN THE ROOM. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT CORRECTION. 
          TREASURE. 
          UM,  THAT BANDAID OFF . 
          UH, WHEN DO YOU GUYS EXPECT TO RELEASE A BRAND AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT AND IN, IN DEALING WITH THAT? AND THEN JUST KIND OF PART B OF THAT QUESTION IS HOW MANY OTHER NEW PRO PROJECTS ARE YOU CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO BE GIFTED WITH THIS FANTASTIC BRAND THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE DELIVERING? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH A LOCAL, UH, MARKETING FIRM ON THE BRANDING. 
          THEY'RE PUTTING THE SCHEDULE AND TIMING TOGETHER. 
          I SHOULD HAVE AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LAUNCH LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, ONCE WE LAUNCH, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IT IS A LOUD MESSAGE. 
          WE WANT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND NOISE BEHIND IT. 
          UM, I'VE TALKED ABOUT, I WANT SO MANY BILLBOARDS HERE. 
          I WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT COMING. 
          I WANT PEOPLE TO GET EXCITED FOR IT. 
          SO I COULD PROBABLY PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN A COUPLE WEEKS ONCE I SEE THE SCHEDULE AND THAT WE'RE ALL SIGNED OFF ON THE SCHEDULE. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH WE'LL BE LAUNCHING THE PLAN IS WE WILL HAVE, UM, ABOUT 10 TO 12 UNDER THIS BRAND. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE BUILDING THIS LOCATION NOW. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE OPENING IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE THAT WILL OPEN IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'LL LEAD WITH, UH, THREE LOCATIONS IN DALLAS. 
          AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THIS LOCATION HERE IN MAY. 
          AND THEN WE WILL FOCUS ON OUR EAST COAST LOCATIONS, ONE TO TWO, DEPENDING ON HOW FAST WE CAN GO. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA OPEN NASHVILLE IN JULY. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A NICE LITTLE SEASONAL BREAK WHERE THE MOVIES KIND OF SLOW DOWN, UH, SCHOOLS BACK IN AND THEN WE CAN READDRESS THE REMAINING EAST COAST LOCATIONS, LOCATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE CURRENT LOCATIONS UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME HERE IN THIS MARKET AREA THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING TO THE NEW BRAND? THE CLOSEST ONE IS, UM, IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. 
          IT'S A VIOLET CROWN. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S MORE OF AN URBAN LOCATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE IT ONLY HAS FOUR AUDITORIUMS, IT HAS REALLY SMALL SEATS. 
          SO THAT'S THE, UM, DOWNTOWN BRAND IF YOU WILL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE CHANGING. 
          THE CLOSEST ONE TO BE HERE WILL BE IN WAXAHATCHEE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. 
          SO YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD THREE LOCATIONS IN DALLAS. 
          ARE THEY NOT BRANDED YET? LIKE THEY DON'T, ARE THEY ALREADY OPEN OR ARE THEY IN THE PROCESS? THEY'RE BRANDED UNDER EVO ENTERTAINMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE REBRANDING THOSE TO THE NEW NAME. 
          SO HAVE YOU EVER BUILT A SUCCESSFUL ENTERTAINMENT CENTER LIKE THIS BEFORE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SAME LIKE BOWLING ALLEY, SQUARE FOOTAGE, ALL OF THAT. 
          YEP. 
          AND SO YOU'RE NOT USING THE BRANDING NAME THAT YOU'VE USED FOR OTHER FACILITIES FOR THIS ONE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHERE ARE THOSE SUCCESSFUL ONES LOCATED? THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA REBRAND IN, UM, APRIL. 
          SO THE THREE IN DALLAS ARE UNDER EVO. 
          WE'RE REBRANDING THOSE TO THIS NEW BRAND. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, CHARLIE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING? I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO, UH, THE LOCAL MARKETING FIRM AND THEN END OF NEXT WEEK YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE AN UPDATE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT IS YOUR GUYS' VISION FOR GETTING THE COMMUNITY REENGAGED IN THIS NEW BRAND? UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY AND SO I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PUBLIC TO, UM, NOT ONLY GET, NOT ONLY GET ENGAGED, BUT ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THEIR, WHAT'S THE DESIRE YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT TO THIS, TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE THEM WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THIS? IS IT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, DISCOUNT MOVIE TICKETS? IS IT GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, FREE GAMES FOR A SET AMOUNT OF TIME? I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT YOU DO 
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NEED TO GET WITH YOUR MARKETING FIRM, BUT JUST ON THE OUTSET, WHAT IS SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING TO, TO REENGAGE THE THE HU COMMUNITY? WELL, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, MOVIES IN THE PARK. 
          WE WANT TO DO A MOVIES IN THE PARK EVENT BEFORE, UM, THE BUILDING ACTUALLY OPENS ONCE WE HAVE. 
          AND THE KEY WITH ALL OF THIS IS HIRING OUR GENERAL MANAGER. 
          AND, UH, THAT IS IN PROCESS. 
          WE'VE HAD INTERVIEWS ALL THIS PAST MONTH. 
          UM, WE, WE GO THROUGH A VERY DETAILED PROCESS BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION WHO THE MANAGER IS. 
          BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT MANAGER HIRED, THEY THEN CAN HIRE THEIR OWN TEAM. 
          THEY'LL HAVE, UH, EVENT SALES, UH, KITCHEN MANAGER, HOSPITALITY, CINEMA, ENTERTAINMENT, ALL THESE OTHER SALARY MANAGERS IN ADDITION TO THE 60 TO 80 EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THEN WE WILL DO A, HOPEFULLY IN THE MOVIES IN THE PARK, WE WANNA BE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, ONCE YOU GUYS ARE ESTABLISHED HERE, IS THERE A ARM OF YOUR NEW ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY TRIES TO EMBED THEMSELVES INTO THE COMMUNITY? I'M SORRY, EMBED THEMSELVES INTO THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF JUST THE CINEMA IN TERMS OF ORGANIZATIONS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ALL ALL OF THAT. 
          WE, THAT IS, SO, SO A BIG PIVOT IS I'M A BIG FAN OF BEING LOCAL AND UM, LOCAL FOOD, LOCAL MENU BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE OPERATING PROCEDURE AND THAT'S STARTING TO CHANGE. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL, WHETHER IT'S, UH, HERE IN HUDU OR IN NASHVILLE OR HONESTLY IN HATCHIE, PEOPLE GO TO HATCHIE AND THEY CALL IT WAX AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET. 
          IT'S NOT WAX, IT'S HATCHY. 
          . 
          AND SO, UH, BEING A PART OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND BRIGHT AND FINISH. 
          WE WILL HAVE SOME OFFERINGS THAT WILL ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND GET THEM EXCITED. 
          UM, THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME O OFFERINGS THAT ARE DISCOUNTED, BUT IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY WANT TO COME IN, EXPERIENCE IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GAMES OR BOWLING OR FOOD. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'S GONNA BE ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HICCUPS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT HAS TO BE EXPECTED TO, TO SAY THAT'S NOT, UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. 
          SURE. 
          AND SO, UM, UNDERSTAND THE HICCUPS, BUT ALSO FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR STANDPOINT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME HEALTHY OPTUS HEALTHY OPTICS THAT NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, REASSESSED, RE RE YOU KNOW, THAT TRUST NEEDS TO BE RE REESTABLISHED. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO COMMIT TO, YOU KNOW, C COMMUNITY EVENTS, BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, NOT JUST ON A HIGH LEVEL BUT YOU KNOW, ENDS THE COMMUNITY AT EVENTS, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE KEY IN MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS BRAND IS STRONG AND IT HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE HIPPO NATION, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LIFETIME THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE. 
          SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE PLANNING THAT AND EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OF THAT. 
          YEAH, WE'RE DEFINITELY WHAT I WANT, AND I, I'LL SAY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IT PUBLICLY SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT THE EDC, THE CITY WE'RE WHAT 20% PARTNERS IN THIS. 
          SO WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS MUCH AS YOU. 
          I GUESS MY ONE QUESTION IS, I I WENT THROUGH A, UH, SIMILAR SITUATION IN TOWN OF BASTROP. 
          UH, WE'RE A MOVIE THEATER COMPLEX. 
          CAME IN, DIDN'T DO FIRST RUNS, FAILED SEVEN OR EIGHT VOTERS. 
          I MEAN, SEVEN OR EIGHT OWNERS LATER. 
          UM, THEY STILL ARE STRUGGLING. 
          YOU'RE NOT THAT FAR FROM PFLUGERVILLE, YOU'RE NOT THAT FAR FROM SOME OTHER FIRST RUN THEATERS. 
          SO WHAT ASSURANCES ARE, HOW DOES MOVIE DISTRIBUTION WORK? 'CAUSE I'D HATE FOR YOU TO OPEN THIS INVESTMENT AND Y'ALL ARE, YOU, YOU WAIT UNTIL SIX MONTHS AFTER A MOVIE OPENS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY BUSINESS 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL GONNA GO DOWN THE ROAD. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S 45 DAYS NOW. 
          ONCE IT'S RELEASED IN THE THEATERS, THEY CAN GO STREAMING. 
          YEP. 
          THAT, THAT WINDOW SHRANK. 
          UM, POST COVID. 
          SO, UH, WE USE A FILM BUYER, UH, THAT HAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SCREENS HE HAS, BUT HE'S OUT OF ATLANTA. 
          THOUSANDS. 
          THOUSANDS OF SCREENS THAT HE BUYS FOR. 
          UM, THE NICE PIECE ABOUT IT IS WE GET ALL THE FIRST RUNS MOVIES AND WITH THE, THE AMOUNT OF SCREENS THAT HE BUYS FOR, WE GET A NICE RATE WITH THE STUDIOS. 
          THAT HELPS. 
          UM, SO IT IS GONNA BE A FIRST RUN, UH, THEATER, ALL FIRST RUN MOVIES. 
          AND THE IMAX PIECE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THE LAST THREE YEARS, I'M SORRY, TWO YEARS POST PANDEMIC, WHEN THE MOVIES STARTED COMING BACK, EIGHT TO 10 MOVIES MAKE UP 80% OF THE BOX OFFICE. 
          SO IN 2018 WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE INDUSTRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AT 12 BILLION. 
          AND SINCE COVID, IT'S KIND OF CLIMBED BACK. 
          LAST YEAR WAS JUST OVER, IT WAS EIGHT AND A HALF, I'M SORRY, EIGHT, NINE, AND 10 MOVIES MADE UP THE WHOLE LIKE 80% OF THE BOX OFFICE. 
          SO YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          FIRST RUN MOVIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          HAVING AN IMAX IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          HAVING A SECOND 
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PREMIUM LARGE FORMAT SCREEN IS ALSO IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY. 
          'CAUSE LIKE IMAGINE THIS LAST, UH, WINTER WHEN MOANA WAS OUT, LION KING'S COMING WAKE, IT'S COMING. 
          ALL THESE MOVIES ARE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          PEOPLE WANNA SEE IT IN A LARGE FORMAT 'CAUSE OR I CAN WAIT 45 DAYS AND WATCH IT AT HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT IMAX EXPERIENCE AT HOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          UH, JUST TO, TO TERRANCE'S POINT AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, UH, YOU KNOW, HU DOES HAVE A VERY ROBUST NONPROFIT COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, ANY PLANS TO INTEGRATE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, UM, TO ASSIST THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IN PROVIDING FOR THE COMMUNITY? ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR GENERAL MANAGER IS GONNA DO OR WOULD YOU HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF TO BEING A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PERSON? LIKE WHAT'S KIND OF YOUR PLAN FOR THAT ASPECT OF IT? SO WE WILL HAVE AN EVENTS PERSON, UM, ON SITE, HOPEFULLY LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY WITH A SUPPORT TEAM WHO WILL DO A LOT OF THAT OUTREACH. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          I WAS THINKING, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I, I FORMERLY WORK FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO SPECIAL ED, SPECIAL OLYMPICS ARE A VERY BIG THING IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THOSE KIDS DO TRAVEL QUITE A BIT FOR BOWLING. 
          HAVE WE MADE A CONNECTION WITH OUR SCHOOL? NOT YET AS FAR AS THAT'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE KIDDOS CAN COME IN AT NON-PEAK HOURS AND IT'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. 
          BUT THAT'S, IT'S A PRETTY VIBRANT, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS POP THAT, THAT, UH, GETS TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE THINGS. 
          WE DO THAT IN OUR HOUSTON LOCATIONS NOW. 
          SO WE, WE ARE VERY, VERY, WE'RE VERY VERSED ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY WIFE'S A SPECIAL ED TEACHER, SO I FULLY, I'M, YES, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          IF I MAY MM-HMM . 
          UM, WITH THE REPRESENTATIONS, I'M, I'M GEORGE HYDE. 
          I'M THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE, UH, HEDC. 
          UM, THE REPRESENTATIONS HERE ARE, UM, UH, INTERESTING AND, AND IDENTIFIED. 
          WOULD YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH SUPPLEMENTING OUR EXISTING AGREEMENT TO, UH, BETTER CLARIFY THESE MATERIALS BY ADDING THEM TO THE, UH, UH, TO OUR AGREEMENT AS, UH, RENDITIONS OF, OF WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT? I THINK THAT'S FINE. 
          WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK THROUGH IT. 
          UM, THE BUILDING IS UP AND WE ARE TWO MONTHS, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAY 1ST IS TURNOVER. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE REALLY FAST. 
          AND IF THAT MAKES EVERYBODY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT, I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND THAT IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          NO, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THAT A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. 
          SURE. 
          SO HAVING PHOTOGRAPHS AND HAVING THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT, UM, IN THOSE ARE JUST, UM, UH, FURTHER IN, UM, CONSOLIDATING THE, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE TABLES WILL LOOK MUCH BETTER. 
          YEAH. 
           AND THE SCREENS, I HOPE IT'LL BE MUCH SOFTER THAN IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW. 
          AND ON THAT NOTE, UM, AND I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION ABOUT THINGS, BUT, UM, WE DRAFTED OUR INCENTIVES AROUND IT BEING AN EVO AND THAT EVO MONTHS BEFORE IS NOT PROVIDED TO US. 
          SO IN THE STEWARDSHIP OF BEING A GOOD PARTNER WITH US, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AGAIN. 
          AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN WHICH PIECE, I'M SORRY. 
          IN OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAMS FOR YOU, UM, UNDER THE, UM, NOTION THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EVO AND WE FOUND OUT MONTHS BEFORE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH YOU GUYS FOR YEARS. 
          CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? MM-HMM . 
          YEAH, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE, UM, REALLY THIS IS, THIS WAS NEWS TO ME AS WELL THAT YOU GUYS ASSUMED THAT THIS WAS IN PLACE BECAUSE AS THE OWNERS OF, OF THE PROJECT, WE ASSUMED THAT THE AGREEMENT WAS WITH US, WHICH, WHICH IT IS. 
          AND IT WAS DRAFTED WITH US. 
          AND SO WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH OUR OBLIGATION TO YOU THROUGH THE LETTER AND WE'RE STILL DOING THAT. 
          AND SO FOR THE NAME NOT TO BE EVO, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE AND IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL, BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO YOU THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH. 
          UM, BUT THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE AN EVO, I'M SORRY, I I MEAN WE PUT MARKETING AROUND IT. 
          WE HAD LIKE A DIG AND WE ALL LIKE OUR HATS AND SHOVELS WITH E MARKET INTO, SO WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IT BEING AN EVO AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING TO US FROM NOT ONLY THE DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FROM COUNCIL. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING, WHAT HAPPENED, WHEREAS THIS NAME BRAND THAT PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          UH, SO TO HER POINT, I THINK, AND TO, AND TO COUNCIL'S POINT, LET'S CAPTURE SOME OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          IT'S GONNA BE ON THE RECORDING SO WE CAN KIND OF GO BACK AND PINPOINT THAT AND THEN WE MIGHT SIT DOWN AND, AND PASS SOME VERBIAGE BACK AND FORTH. 
          BUT I, I ALSO DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE TEAM. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE GET OUT IN FRONT 
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OF THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM COUNCIL AND WHAT WE CAN SAY PUBLICLY, BUT FOR YOUR BENEFIT, BUT ALSO THE BENEFIT OF OUR FIDUCIARY DUTIES THAT OUR PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS. 
          THIS IS ALL ON THE UP AND UP. 
          RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          IT'S A BUSINESS DEAL AND IT'S WORTH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET STUCK WITH A, A LEMON AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BUSINESS IS RISKY, RIGHT? BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO BE THE FACE OF THAT, UH, THAT, THAT PR MOVE WITH US. 
          IF WE CAN HELP, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A, A LEGAL WAY FOR US TO HELP COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS, TO JUST PUT PEOPLE'S MINDS AT EASE. 
          WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, US BEING HERE IS EVIDENCE TO THAT SURE, SURE. 
          TO START. 
          SURE. 
          BUT I HAVEN'T STOOD UP IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS BEFORE AND YOU DON'T KNOW ME MM-HMM . 
          AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK ME QUESTIONS AND YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW ME BETTER. 
          I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BE UP HERE MORE. 
          I LIVE IN AUSTIN. 
          I'M, I'M HERE. 
          ALL I I'M HERE ALL THE TIME. 
          I'VE BEEN UP HERE THE LAST TWO WEEKS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT WITH CHRIS. 
          I'VE WALKED IT, GOTTEN MY SHOES DIRTY. 
          IT'S, IT'S GREAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOING AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL PROJECT. 
          AND SO I, I DIDN'T, I GUESS I DIDN'T FULLY APPRECIATE THE, THE CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAD AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 
          IN, IN OUR MIND THERE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT WOULD EVER EVEN CROSS THROUGH OUR MINDS THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE RUNNING FIRST RUN MOVIES. 
          SO THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT THAT UP SHOWS ME THAT, OKAY, WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT, VERY FIRST CLASS. 
          AND IF YOU, IF YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN WAXAHATCHEE, A SIMILAR TYPE OF COMMUNITY, I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU'D RUN SECOND RUN MOVIES THERE. 
          . 
          AND THIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER, THIS THIS BOWLING AREA RIGHT HERE WITH THE LED SCREEN THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE. 
          THIS COULD QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE BIGGEST BLOCK OF LED SCREEN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OF ANY BOWLING AREA IN THE COUNTRY. 
          IT'S PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE SOME BOWLING AREAS HAVE LIKE 70 OR 80 AND THEY HAVE LIKE A NICE LED SCREEN THAT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS. 
          BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE WITH THIS HEIGHT. 
          THE, THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THIS HAS NEVER DONE ONE. 
          THIS HEIGHT, THEY'VE DONE IT STRETCHED OUT LONG. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND YOU'RE STAYING ON YOUR TIMELINE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT, UM, TO OUR POINT, WE DID GIVE INCENTIVES BASED ON IT BEING AN EVO. 
          AND THEN FURTHERMORE, UM, BRAND BRANDING DOES MATTER. 
          SO LIKE, IF YOU ARE GONNA GO TO A CITY AND ASK FOR INCENTIVES, BUT YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME IS GONNA BE, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEIR CONCEPT IS AND WE'RE GONNA GO BUILD, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME IS. 
          THAT SEEMS, UM, UN LIKE YOU'RE JUST PRESENTING AN IDEA AND UNSURE OF THE ACTUAL NAME OF IT IS LIKE, IT'S NOT FULL, IT'S NOT LIKE A, A FULL PROJECT YET. 
          I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO LEAD WITH A NAME THAT'S THE WHOLE PART OF THE BRANDING. 
          AND, AND THEN TOWARDS THE END, WE'RE NOW LIKE RESTRUCTURING EVERYTHING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EVEN A NAME. 
          IT SEEMS BACKWARDS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, TO ME, I FEEL, IT FEELS LIKE YOU PUT A NAME OUT THERE FOR US THAT WE ALL KNOW AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD, IT'S IN KYLE, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT. 
          AND THEN MONTHS BEFORE YOU OPEN, YOU TAKE THAT NAME AWAY AND THAT BRAND THAT, THAT HYPE THAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS AND THEN TO WHAT, LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. 
          I THINK FOR ME, UH, SPEAKING JUST FOR MYSELF, UM, THINGS HAPPEN AND I GET IT. 
          AND, UM, I THINK HOPEFULLY YOU ARE HEARING, UH, US CONVEY FROM WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE BEING TOLD, UH, WHAT SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE PUT OUT THERE, UM, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS RIGHT FOR US AND STUFF. 
          AND SO, AND I WASN'T NOT, I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE CONTRACTS WERE SIGNED, NEGOTIATED OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. 
          SO, UM, I I THINK, I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT A SENSE OF URGENCY OH ABSOLUTELY. 
          OF THE P THE PR THE NAMING AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          SO WHEN WE FIRST CAME INTO THIS MARKET, WE KNEW ABOUT THE PRIOR OPERATOR THAT DIDN'T BUILD THE MOVIE THEATER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A VERY SOURCE SUBJECT. 
          AND SO WE ARE CONSCIENTIOUS OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE VERY SURE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THIS THING COMES OUT OF THE GROUND SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE. 
          WE, WE ARE VERTICAL, WE ARE DRIED IN, WE HAVE HVAC GOING IN. 
          WE, WE HAVE DRYWALL GOING IN AND IT'S, IT'S WELL UNDERWAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WE, WE GET ELECTRICITY, LIKE, I MEAN TO THAT LIKE TODAY OR TOMORROW. 
          YEAH. 
          TO THAT POINT, IS IT, WELL, GOING WITH WHAT THE CHAIR IS SAYING, UM, CAN WE REQUEST OF YOU GUYS WE MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS UNTIL THIS PROJECT OPENS FULLY, WE HAVE GRAND OPENING. 
          CAN WE REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE A PRESENCE AT OUR 
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MEETINGS TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, MONTH BY MONTH PROGRESS SO THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW IT'S RECORDED, LIKE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          UM, AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF, 'CAUSE THIS WORKS OUT FOR BOTH PARTIES, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          WE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE SAYING ANYTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MISCONSTRUED. 
          YOU GUYS WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT REPUTATION 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE EMBEDDED IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO I THINK THIS KILLS TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE, SO TO SPEAK, WHERE IF YOU GUYS WERE TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS, WE HAVE A RUNNING AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU GUYS TO PRESENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'VE MADE THAT CLEARS UP ANY SORT OF MISUNDERSTANDING THAT HEY, THEY'RE NOT COMING, THEY ARE COMING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MEETING THEIR DEADLINES, THEY'RE NOT MEETING THEIR DEADLINES. 
          I THINK THIS COULD REALLY HELP OUT TO, YOU KNOW, EASE ANY SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, APPREHENSIVENESS THAT'S, THAT'S GOING ON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK ALSO IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PHOTOS AND PUT PHOTOS TO THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO CAN WE COMMIT EVEN GET MORE PEOPLE EXCITED? SORRY ABOUT, UM, THE PROJECT. 
          I THINK WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. 
          AND I HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          YES. 
          , THANK YOU, CHARLIE. 
          SPEAK TO THE NAME. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A NAME FIRST AND, AND MAKING THAT A PRIORITY OF SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BUILD AROUND AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. 
          UM, I WILL SAY THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE MANAGE THIS IN-HOUSE WITH OUR OWN TEAM IS SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THIS. 
          UM, WE HAVE OPENED MULTIPLE OTHER LOCATIONS UNDER THE EBO NAME MM-HMM . 
          AND WE WOULD LIKE THOSE OPEN THIS OPENING TO BE STRONGER THAN THOSE WERE MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WITH OUR TEAM, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCING OUR MARKETING TO A, A MUCH BROADER MARKET THAT WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN TAP, UM, THAT PRIOR TO THAT WE, OUR, OUR ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS WERE MANAGED BY A COMPANY THAT HAD IN-HOUSE MARKETING. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT, AND WE THINK THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. 
          AND THIS ONE MOST CERTAINLY WILL BE BETTER. 
          WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT THE, YOU WERE NOT GONNA GO FORWARD WITH THE EVO BRAND? IT IS VERY RECENT. 
          LIKE WITHIN THIS, WE TRIED MONTH, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE A COHESIVE, UM, AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN BE ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, IT WASN'T UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, LESS THAN TWO MONTHS AGO, THAT, THAT WE KNEW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO YOU THINK THAT YOU NOTIFIED OUR, THIS BOARD OR, OKAY. 
          YES. 
          YOU GUYS KNEW WITHIN, I MEAN, HOURS, I THINK. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO THE MARKETING, UH, COMPANY OR FIRM THAT YOU'RE USING, YOU SAID LOCAL. 
          DOES THAT MEAN AUSTIN OR DOES THAT MEAN YES, THEY'RE LOCAL TO AUSTIN. 
          WE'RE, UM, IN AUSTIN, SO IT'S HELM'S WORKSHOP THEY WORKED WITH, UM, THEY DID KOVAS. 
          THEY'VE DONE SOME OTHER BRANDING COMPANIES AS WELL. 
          SO WHAT WAS THE NAME? KOVAS KOVA, THE BOOT COMPANY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE HELM, THE, IT'S HELM'S WORKSHOP IS WHO'S DOING THE MARKETING. 
          AND SO DID YOU SAY THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS TYPE OF A LAUNCH FOR THEY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          YOU, SO WE'VE BEEN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, WE'VE, I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT, WITH WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED SO FAR IN TERMS OF, UM, THE PLAN. 
          I'M A LEANER AND I SHOULDN'T BE, BUT, UH, THE PLANS, AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE JUST NEED THE SCHEDULE OF LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW WE DO IT IN HATO. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN DALLAS. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          THIS IS THE CADENCE. 
          SO ARE THEY WORKING ALL THOSE LOCATIONS TOO? THEY ARE, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU GUYS, UM, JUST TELL US ONE MORE TIME, LIKE, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP, UM, SOME SHIFTS FROM, YOU KNOW, THIS COMPANY TO THAT COMPANY AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ARTICLES AND PRESS RELEASES AND STUFF. 
          UM, CAN YOU JUST, LIKE, FOR ELEMENTARY LEVEL, JUST KIND OF GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON LEFT IT HERE AND WHAT'S HERE NOW THIS IS US AND WE'RE HERE AND HERE'S ALL THE PEOPLE AND HERE'S WHERE THEY WERE AND HERE'S WHERE THEY ARE NOW. 
          SO, UM, AS V VERA HAS ALWAYS OWNED ALL THESE LOCATIONS, THEY OUTSOURCE MANAGEMENT OF THE VENUES AND THE THEATERS FROM NOT ONLY LIKE IN THE LOCATIONS, BUT ALSO FROM A SPORT STANDPOINT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SHARED SERVICES. 
          AND SO, UH, THEY WANNA DO IT THEMSELVES IN HOUSE AND BRING THEIR OWN TEAM ON. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND SO THAT ALL OF THE, UH, LOCATIONS THAT WE, WE OWN, UM, ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE HIRED ON AND SAME EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, AND THAT TRANSITION IS IN PROCESS MM-HMM . 
          AND THERE'S SOME LIKE SENIOR MANAGEMENT STUFF THAT'S KIND OF SHIFTED AROUND AS WELL? YES. 
          SO I'M THE CEO AND CHRIS IS IN CHARGE OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          HE'S OUR HEAD OF DEVELOPMENT. 
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AND, UM, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR, UH, A WHILE IN HOSPITALITY BEFORE THIS, BUT ALSO, UM, PREVIOUSLY WITH EVO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'VE READ THE PRESS RELEASES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT ON PUBLIC RECORD. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. 
          IN THE, UH, INTEREST OF HOPEFULLY AVOIDING FUTURE HICCUPS. 
          DO YOU SEE ANY, DO YOU FORESEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM OPENING UP IN MAY? I, THAT WOULD BE, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          , WE ARE, WE ARE REALLY LOOKING GOOD. 
          AND, UH, I'VE BUILT LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THESE AND I'VE BUILT, UH, 20 ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS MYSELF. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE. 
          EVERYTHING'S LOOKING GOOD. 
          ALSO DEAL WITH ALL THE VENDORS. 
          SO LIKE WE SAID, UH, WHEN WE TALKED TO CHENEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT IMAX ON BOARD, EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD, SO EVERYBODY'S EXCITED FOR US AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA BRING A FIRST CLASS, UH, ENTERTAINMENT CENTER HERE TO HATO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH YOUR MARKETING, UH, SCHEDULE SO THAT THAT WAY WE'RE, WE'RE PREPARED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATE YOU AT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT SO THAT THIS BOARD CAN PLAN MONTHLY AT THE, AT THE MEETINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'LL SEE YOU EVERY MONTH AS, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE SCHEDULE , I WILL SHARE THE SCHEDULE AND WE'LL BE HERE MONTHLY TO TALK WITH YOU GUYS AND TO CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU UPDATES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THE, UH, LAST MINUTE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT OUR COMMITMENT IS THE SAME FIRST CLASS ENTERTAINMENT CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS ONE OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH, UH, Y'ALL WORKING WITH, UM, CHENEY, UM, FOR COMMUNICATION PURPOSES, BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS A HUGE ISSUE THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, MOST TOWNS AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND WITH YOU GUYS, AND YOU'RE PUTTING PRESS RELEASES OUT, WE'RE PUTTING PRESS RELEASES OUT. 
          SO LIKE, IT'D BE REALLY GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE, RELEASING THINGS THE SAME TIME. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE DOING ONE THING, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER THING, AND IT'S, PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED, YOU KNOW? SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER. 
          YES. 
          THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNICATION TO THE CITIZENS WORKING WITH CHANEY'S. 
          GREAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE HAVE NOT PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE THAT WE HAVE NOT COLLABORATED WITH YOUR TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER PRESS RELEASES HAVE GONE OUT, NOT FROM US. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO SET UP A REOCCURRING, UH, PRESENTATION UPDATE WITH THE ESPED TEAM, UM, UNTIL THEIR OPENING I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          CLARIFYING. 
          THIS IS AT OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          NOT IN ADDITION TO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION, UM, BY BOARD MEMBER BRENT THOMPSON, AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS. 
          AYE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN? MINTON AYE. 
          CHAIR. 
          CLANCY AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          TREASURER. 
          GIDEON AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES SEVEN. 
          OH, THANKS FOR BEING HERE, GUYS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YEAH, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANKS GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, WHERE ARE WE AT? WHERE ARE WE AT? WE ARE FIVE THREE. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A PRESENTATION FROM HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB ON THEIR EXPANSION AND REQUEST FOR INCENTIVES. 
          HI. 
          UM, UM, YOU COULD PUT IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE HIPPO SOCIAL ANIMALS ? OKAY. 
          NO, SIR, WE TRAIN LIKE ANIMALS. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          GET AFTER IT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          LET ME, I'M NOT USED TO TALKING ON A MICROPHONE. 
          CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          YES, YOU CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOVE IT CLOSER TO YOU. 
          I'LL GRAB IT. 
          YEAH, SORRY. 
          IT'S, IT'S MOBILE. 
          LET'S THE SITE FISH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'LL TRY AND GAUGE THE ROOM. 
          UH, GO EAGLES. 
          OOH. 
          TRYING TO, TRYING TO GAUGE THE ROOM. 
          OKAY. 
          , GLES. 
          THANKS FOR COMING IN. 
          APPRECIATE IT, . 
          DARN IT. 
          AH, S**T. 
          ALL RIGHTY. 
          UH, BACK TO BUSINESS. 
          UH, I'M TRACY JANOWITZ. 
          UH, SOME OF YOU KNOW ME, SOME OF YOU DON'T. 
          SO I SHOULD FORMALLY INTRODUCE MYSELF. 
          UM, I'M CREATOR AND VISIONARY OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT, THE HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB. 
          UM, ALSO 
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A CO-FOUNDER IN HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB. 
          I BROUGHT MY PARTNERS WITH ME, THEY'RE SCATTERED AROUND THE ROOM. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, WANTED TO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU, UH, A GROWTH AND EXPANSION, UH, PROPOSAL. 
          UM, EVO OR EVOKE MAY BE BRINGING, BRINGING A FIRST CLASS ENTERTAINMENT, UH, CAMPUS, BUT HOPEFULLY WILL BE THE FIRST, UH, WORLD CLASS, UH, WELLNESS CAMPUS. 
          SO, WITH THAT SAID, HUDDLES ON THE RISE. 
          UH, INDUSTRIES ARE EXPANDING. 
          UH, BUSINESSES ARE THRIVING IN THE CITY, IS EVOLVING INTO A MAJOR HUB FOR COMMERCE AND TECHNOLOGY. 
          BUT HERE'S A QUESTION. 
          WHAT KEEPS A CITY FEELING LIKE HOME? WHAT MAKES PEOPLE NOT JUST WORK HERE, BUT WANNA LIVE HERE, RAISE FAMILIES HERE AND INVEST THEIR WELLBEING HERE? IT'S WRITTEN ON YOUR WALL. 
          ONE OF YOUR PILLARS IS CREATING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND THE ANSWER ISN'T JUST IN INDUSTRY, IT'S IN COMMUNITY, IT'S IN CULTURE, AND IT'S IN QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB COMES IN. 
          UM, HIPA SOCIAL CLUB, OH, SORRY. 
          HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB IS A MULTIPURPOSE WELLNESS FACILITY, UH, SPANNING ACROSS 36 ACRES HERE IN HU DESIGNED TO PROMOTE HOLISTIC WELLBEING, COMMUNITY CONNECTION, AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IN HU TEXAS. 
          AS HUDU EXPERIENCES RAPID INDUSTRIALIZATION, THERE'S A CRITICAL NEED FOR SPACES THAT FOSTER HEALTH, CULTURE, AND COMMUNITY. 
          THE HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB ADDRESSES THIS GAP BY OFFERING A UNIQUE BLEND OF WELLNESS SERVICES, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, ALL WHILE CONTRIBUTING TO HUDDLE'S, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH SALES, TAX, REVENUE, TOURISM, AND LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE PILLARS AS WELL. 
          SO OUR FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS ARE BASED ON OUR THREE PILLARS OF FUEL MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION. 
          YEAR ONE. 
          SO WE'RE HEADED INTO YEAR TWO. 
          SO YEAR ONE, HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB WAS JUST ABOUT ESSENTIALLY LAYING THE FILL FOR THE FOOTPRINT, BUILDING THE CAMPUS, GIVING, UH, PLANTING SEEDS AND BEING ABLE TO GET PROOF OF CONCEPT. 
          YEAR TWO, WHILE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, IS ALL ABOUT EXPANSION AND GROWTH. 
          OUR PILLARS ARE BASED ON FUEL, MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION, AND I LIKE TO PLAY ON SIMPLICITY AND PRESENTATION. 
          AND FOR WHAT I'M LACKING IN HIGH LEVEL PHOTOGRAPHY THIS EVENING, I'M HOPEFULLY GONNA MAKE UP AN ENTHUSIASM AND VIBRANCY THAT I CAN GIVE TO YOU HERE. 
          BUT OUR PILLARS OF FUEL MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION. 
          SO YEAR ONE, WE'VE ALREADY EXPANDED UPON FUEL. 
          FUEL AS IN OBVIOUSLY THE GAS WE PUT IN OUR CARS, BUT NOT IN RELATION TO US. 
          IT'S BASED IN WELLNESS. 
          FUEL IS MORE THAN JUST THE FOOD THAT WE PUT INTO OUR BODIES. 
          IT'S HOW IT TRAVELS IN AND THROUGH OUR BODIES AND MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE. 
          SO OUR WHOLE CONCEPT IS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MAKE WELLNESS ACCESSIBLE, UM, PRACTICAL, AND BRINGING THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S ROOTED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO THROUGH WELLNESS. 
          UM, YEAR ONE, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE LOTS OF COL OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS, SUCH AS PARTNERING WITH LOCAL RANCHERS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BRING HIGH QUALITY LOCAL, LOCAL, LOCAL AS IN HU DO, AND IN, UH, K-N-C-K-C THERE OUTTA LULING LULING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO KEEPING IT SUPER LOCAL HERE, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE BETTER FOOD AND ACCESSIBILITY TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND DWELL IN HU. 
          UM, WE ARE BUILDING AND CONTINUING TO CURATE MARKETPLACES IN YEAR TWO THAT WILL FEATURE MORE LOCAL FARMERS, RANCHERS AND HEALTH CONSCIOUS BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE REAL NUTRITIOUS FOOD. 
          ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT JIM MORRIS IS A PART OF OUR WELLNESS AFFILIATE NETWORK. 
          SO THAT'S A COLLABORATION OF ABOUT 30 BUSINESS OWNERS THAT LIVE AND DWELL IN HUDU OR BE AROUND HUDU, AND THEY SERVE HUDU. 
          AND THESE ARE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE LIKE-MINDED, UH, LIKE-MINDED IN THE FACT THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE A BUSINESS THAT REVOLVES AROUND HEALTH AND WELLNESS OR FITNESS, BUT THEY SURE DO REPRESENT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO LIVE WELL, A MIND AND BODY. 
          THAT'S A, AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WHAT WE'RE PLANTING IS ROOTED IN OUR, OUR VALUES THAT, UH, EVOLVE AROUND FILM MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION. 
          MOVING ON TO PILLAR TWO MOVEMENT. 
          WE EMPHASIZE ALL FORMS OF MOVEMENT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN IN THE HEALTH AND FITNESS INDUSTRY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, UM, RUNNING BUSINESSES, UM, SINCE, SORRY, I'M MARRIED TO THAT ONE SINCE NICK AND I WORKED, UH, MARRIED. 
          WE'VE BEEN, UH, RUNNING BUSINESSES , BUT NOT JUST MOVEMENT THROUGH, NOT JUST MOVEMENT THROUGH EXERCISE. 
          THIS IS WHERE YOU HEAR THE CONVERSATION CHANGE. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW ME, I'LL TALK ABOUT EXERCISE, BUT ANYTIME I TALK ABOUT HIPPO SOCIAL CLUBS, IT'S IN TERMS OF MOVEMENT. 
          BECAUSE MOVEMENT COMES IN ALL MODALITIES AND AS OPPOSED TO RECREATIONAL CENTERS. 
          SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THOSE EITHER. 
          WE'RE IN BUSINESS IN THOSE AS WELL. 
          YOU KIND OF CUT OUT THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH. 
          A LOT OF THE TIMES, PEOPLE THAT ALREADY EXERCISE, THEY PLAY SPORTS, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN SPORTS AND REC CENTERS. 
          THEY ALREADY KINDA LEAN IN. 
          THEY ALREADY EXERCISE. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VALUED IN THEIR HOMES. 
          WHEN WE SWITCH TO MOVEMENT, IT'S MORE THAN TEAM SPORTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE KIDS, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT PLAY SPORTS. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO ENGAGE THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          SO, UH, STEP ONE IS CREATING THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          BEING ABLE TO SURROUND OURSELVES AND BRING PEOPLE TO US THAT BELIEVE IN OUR CULTURE AND WHAT WE DO THROUGH WELLNESS, KNOWING THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DO, UM, STEMS AT THE FOUNDATION OF OUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, BEING ABLE TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT MOVEMENT IS SOMETIMES JUST WALKING ALONG THE TRAIL, BEING, UH, IMMERSED IN NATURE, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT, FIND RESTORATION, TO BREATHE TO CENTER, UM, TO FIND CONNECTION. 
          THIS IS PART OF OUR MOVEMENT PILLAR. 
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AND THEN CONNECTION IS THE THIRD, IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE. 
          AND BECAUSE WELLNESS IS NOT JUST PERSONAL, IT'S COMMUNAL, IT'S OUR CAMPUS WILL OFFER, AND WE DO ALREADY OFFER, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HOSTED PLENTY OF SUCCESSFUL EVENTS. 
          UM, EVEN MANY WORKSHOPS, RETREATS, AND BIGGER WELLNESS EVENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR TO STRENGTHEN OUR INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE WELLBEING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. 
          A HEALTHY CITER CITY IS A PRODUCTIVE ONE, AND INVESTING IN MENTAL AND PHYSICAL WELLBEING LEADS TO HIGHER HAPPINESS, BETTER PRODUCTIVITY, AND LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH. 
          SO, WITH THAT SAID, IS, UH, JUST TO REITERATE, UH, WE ARE DESIGNED TO PROMOTE HOLISTIC WELLBEING, COMMUNITY CONNECTION, AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. 
          IN HU WE'RE BASED ON OUR THREE PILLARS OF FUEL MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION. 
          AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO, UH, ASK, AND SERGIO'S GONNA LAY OUT FOR YOU FURTHER THAT THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A TWO PHASE EXPANSION STRATEGY SUPPORTED BY A FUNDING REQUEST OF 75 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE HU OEDC. 
          THE EXPANSION WILL ENHANCE THE CLUB'S INFRASTRUCTURE, PROGRAMMING, AND ECONOMIC IMPACT POSITIONING HATO AS A LEADER IN WELLNESS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN CENTRAL TEXAS. 
          AND WHY WOULD THIS FUNDING MATTER? UM, HUDDLE WAS GROWING AT AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE, RAPIDLY BECOMING AN INDUSTRIAL HUB. 
          BUT TO CREATE A TRULY SUSTAINABLE AND DESIRABLE CITY, WE MUST INVEST IN THE SPACES THAT WE FOSTER, WELLBEING, CONNECTION, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB IS NOT JUST A GYM OR A WELLNESS CENTER. 
          IT'S A DESTINATION. 
          IT'S AN ECOSYSTEM, AND IT'S AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE MOVEMENT, COMMUNITY AND HEALTH ARE SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATED INTO EVERYDAY LIFE. 
          UH, WITH THIS FUNDING, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THE, THE UNIQUE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO SCALE. 
          UM, EVEN WELLNESS TOURISM IN HU FIRST OF ITS KIND OUTDOOR WELLNESS CAMPUS DESIGNED AROUND MOVEMENT, CONNECTION AND RESTORATION. 
          BY UTILIZING REPURPOSED SHIPPING CONTAINERS, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT FOOTPRINT LAID. 
          UM, WE WILL HAVE, UH, CONTINUED TO LAY UPON THAT FOOTPRINT TO EXPAND, ADDING ONTO OUR MODULAR ADA ADAPTIVE SPACE THAT EMBRACES NATURE, SUSTAINABILITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UH, MOVING ON, WE ARE, UH, MOVING ON. 
          WE'RE HERE TO BE PRESSING FUNDING THAT ALLOW US TO BUILD OUT OUR UNIQUE PHYSICAL CAMPUS AND SCALE OUR OFFERINGS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL HEAD INTO, UH, KIND OF THE BREAD AND BUTTER, UH, CONTINUING THAT. 
          WE ARE A WELLNESS CAMPUS OFFERING A RANGE OF SERVICES INCLUDING FITNESS RECOVERY THERAPIES, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, CO-WORKING SPACES, AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          OUR CURRENT AMENITIES INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM A SONIC COAL PLUNGE, A COLLABORATIVE WORKSPACE CONTAINER. 
          UM, AND THEN FOR MEMBERS, WE DO HAVE OUR, UM, FIVE MILES OF, UH, NATURE TRAILS. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, UH, UH, AN AMAZING, UH, COLLABORATION, A RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE, UH, WITH HUDDLE TOWN SQUARE, UH, THAT OUR TARGET MARKET HERE IS OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS, OUR, OUR TOURISTS, OUR CORPORATE CLIENTS SUCH AS OUR, UH, SAMSUNG AND, AND TESLAS AND OTHER, UH, BIG TO MID TO SMALL SIZE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE KIND OF LEANING MORE TOWARDS, UH, TECH-BASED, UM, COMPANIES SEEKING WELLNESS FOCUSED RETREATS, TEAM BUILDING EVENTS AND COWORKING SPACES. 
          UM, HUS, UH, GROWTH AND ECONOMIC TRENDS WE'RE EXPERIENCING, UH, RAPID GROWTH DRIVEN BY INDUSTRY, TECHNOLOGY AND COMMERCE. 
          THIS EXPANSION CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR WELLNESS FOCUSED BUSINESSES AS OURSELVES TO PRIORITIZE PARKS, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND COMMUNITY SPACES. 
          THE CITY'S ECONOMIC GOALS ALIGN WITH PROJECTS THAT ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE, ATTRACT TOURISM PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES, AND GENERATE, UH, ADDITIONAL SALES TECH REVENUE. 
          UM, WHILE HUDU HAS LIMITED DIRECT COMPETITORS IN WELLNESS SPACE, THE HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB'S, UNIQUE COMPENSA COMBINATION OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FACILITIES, UH, NATURE FOCUSED PROGRAMMING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SETS IT APART. 
          UH, COMPETITORS MAY INCLUDE TRADITIONAL GYMS, YOGA STUDIOS AND EVENT VENUES, BUT NOT OFFER THE HOLISTIC MULTIPURPOSE EXPERIENCE PROVIDED BY THE HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB. 
          AND WITH THE EXPANSION OF OUR CONTINUED BUSINESS WELLNESS NETWORK, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ESSENTIALLY BE LIKE AN INCUBATOR, A HYBRID MODEL WHERE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH, UM, SPACE THAT WHERE WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AS A COLLECTIVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BRING THESE AMAZING EXPERIENCES IN AND THROUGHOUT HUDU. 
          UM, UH, AND THEN JUST WITH, UH, MARKET DEMANDS AND WELLNESS TRENDS, UM, ESPECIALLY HITTING ON THE WELLNESS TOURISM, I KNOW THAT THAT AS FAR AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT IS HAD SET TO HIT, I THINK, OH MY GOSH, IN THE TRILLIONS BY 2030. 
          SO BEING ABLE TO, UH, POSITION OURSELVES AS A CITY, UM, WORKING WITH PRIVATE COMPANIES SUCH AS US AND BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH CITIES, UM, SUCH AS HUDA KIND OF PUTS US IN A REALLY UNIQUE CAPACITY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE IN OTHER WAYS. 
          UM, AND THEN ONE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE MINERAL WEALTH, TEXAS. 
          UM, IF YOU VISIT THEIR CITY PAGE, UM, ON THEIR CITY, EVERYTHING IS ROOTED IN WELLNESS. 
          IT'S KIND OF THE CENTER OF WHAT THEY DO. 
          UM, SO THAT IS JUST KIND OF ONE WAY. 
          I JUST HAPPEN TO DRINK THAT ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER THAT THEY HAVE, BUT WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE, UH, SHIPPING CONTAINER CONCEPT THAT'S VERY UNIQUE TO, I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANY, UH, CONCEPT AROUND THIS AREA. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE, 
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UM, LOSE ON HAVING, YOU KNOW, GREAT MINERAL WATER, UM, WE CAN MAKE UP FOR BY CREATING THIS REALLY GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WITH OUR ASK TONIGHT. 
          UM, I'M HERE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO SERGIO 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO KNOW AS FAR AS WHAT THE ASK ENTAILS AND WHAT WE'RE GEARING IT TOWARDS. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M GONNA PASS IT ON OVER TO SERGIO. 
          I KNOW I SKIPPED SOME THINGS AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US, SO I'LL LET SERGIO TAKE THE NUMBERS. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, TRACY. 
          YEAH, SO IN REGARDS TO OUR ASS HERE, HOW WE MENTIONED, UH, 75 TO A HUNDRED K, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE WHAT OUR REVENUE TAX PROJECTIONS LOOK LIKE FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS. 
          AND SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE, THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO OUR MEMBERSHIP GROWTH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10% MONTHLY INCREASE IN COWORKING AND WELLNESS MEMBERSHIPS. 
          UH, OUR EVENTS THAT WE HOST OUR ATTENDANCE, WE EXPECT BETWEEN TWO TO 500 ATTENDANCES, ATTENDEES, PARTIC EVENTS. 
          AND WE HAD PLANNED TO HAVE FOUR TO SIX EVENTS A YEAR. 
          OUR RETAIL SALES, 20% OF VISITORS PURCHASE WELLNESS PRODUCTS, OUR WELLNESS PRODUCTS THAT WE SELL THERE ON SITE TOO. 
          AVERAGING ABOUT $50 PER TRANSACTION. 
          TOURISM IMPACT THREE TO 6,000 ANNUAL VISITORS FOR RETREATS, EVENTS, AND CON THOSE CONTRIBUTE TO LOCAL HOTEL STAYS, THE DINING, THE RESTAURANTS, ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS. 
          THE SALES TAX RATE AT EIGHT AND A QUARTER. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HELP WITH. 
          SALES TAX RATES. 
          AS FAR AS OUR REVENUE STREAMS, WE HAVE A WELLNESS COWORKING EVENT, SPACE RENTALS. 
          RIGHT NOW, OUR MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS ARE $150 A MEMBER. 
          WE PROJECT 50 MEMBERS BY THE END OF, UH, OUR FIRST YEAR OF MONTH, 12 OF THE 24 MONTH PROJECTION. 
          AND A HUNDRED BY MONTH 24, UH, EVENT RENTALS. 
          500 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS EVENT. 
          AGAIN, ABOUT FOUR EVENTS, UH, UH, A MONTH. 
          OUR TICKET EVENTS, OUR TICKET PRICE RANGES BETWEEN 25 TO $50, 75 ATTENDEES, FOUR EVENTS A MONTH. 
          RETAIL SALES, AGAIN, WELLNESS PRODUCTS, $50 TRANSACTIONS. 
          WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT A HUNDRED TRANSACTIONS A MONTH. 
          FARMER'S MARKETS AND POPUP MARKETS. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA HOST, WE HAVE A BIG LAND AREA, WE CAN HOST THAT. 
          AND WE EXPECT VENDOR FEES BETWEEN 50 TO A HUNDRED. 
          UH, AND THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT A HUNDRED VENDORS AT THOSE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A PROJECTION ABOUT 20 VENDORS EVERY FOUR MARKETS PER YEAR. 
          SO THOSE VARY, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE DATA TELLS US. 
          CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, TOURISM AND LODGING, THE HOT TAX ELIGIBILITY RETREATS AND EVENT EXPERIENCES. 
          AGAIN, THREE TO 6,000 VISITORS A YEAR CONTRIBUTING ON AVERAGE A HUNDRED BUCKS IN VISITOR, VISITOR AND LOCAL SPENDING. 
          AND WE WANT TO EXPLORE A REVENUE SHARING MODEL WITH YOU GUYS, A DC AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL TAX MODELS. 
          WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. 
          SO WE WANNA EXPLORE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH YOU GUYS. 
          SO IN OUR FIRST 12 MONTH REVENUE PROJECTION, WE PROJECT REVENUE AT ABOUT 250,000. 
          THAT INCLUDES MEMBERSHIPS OF 90,000. 
          OUR EVENT REVENUE AT 60,000 RETAIL SELLS AT 60,000. 
          OUR MARKETS, OUR FARMER'S MARKETS AT 4,000 AND TOURISM GENERATING 36,000. 
          SO TELL, UH, SALES TAX GENERATED ESTIMATE ABOUT 12 20,625 FOR YEAR ONE OF OUR 24 MONTH REJECTION PLAN. 
          SO FOR THE SECOND YEAR, OUR TOTAL REVENUE RAN ANTICIPATING 500 K MEMBERSHIPS TO DOUBLE TO 180 K. 
          EVERYTHING'S DOUBLING, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE CAN PRODUCE AND PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE EXPECT EVENTS TO BE AT 120 K RETO AT 120 K, OUR FARMER'S MARKET, AK AND TOURISM TO GENERATE 70 2K, WHICH GIVES US AN ESTIMATED SALES TAX GENERATED FOR THE CITY AT 41,250. 
          SO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR THE HU FOR THE CITY HERE IS GONNA BE THE SALES TAX REVENUE. 
          THE CLUB WILL GENERATE SIGNIFICANT SALES TAX, SALES TAX TO RETAIL EVENTS, MARKETS DIRECTLY BENEFITING THE HU BASE TAX BASE, THE TOURISM IMPACT, THE JOB CREATION. 
          WE ANTICIPATE CREATING 10 TO 15 NEW LOCAL JOBS TO STAFF, LOCAL PEOPLE FOR OUR BIG EVENTS AND OUR RETAIL AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          THE CLUB WILL STRENGTHEN HUDDLE SOCIAL FABRIC BY PROVIDING SPACES FOR CONNECTION, HEALTH AND LOCAL CULTURE. 
          SO THAT FUNDING REQUEST OF THE 75 TO A HUNDRED K REQUESTING FROM THE EDC, IT INCLUDES $50,000 IN INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS MAINLY FOR OUR, UH, LET ME SEE HERE. 
          WHERE WAS OUR BARN? THE BARN. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          THE BARN. 
          WE HAVE A 60 BY 60 FOOT COVERED MULTIPURPOSE VENUE. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A POLE BARN. 
          IT'S A GIANT POLE BARN WHERE WE CAN HAVE EVENTS FOR WEDDINGS, RETREATS. 
          AND THIS SPACE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FUNDS WILL GO TO. 
          UM, CAN I ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION? DO Y'ALL OWN THAT SIDE OR ARE Y'ALL LEASING THAT PROPERTY? WE'RE LEASING THAT SIDE FROM, FROM THE CHURCH, YES, SIR. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THEN OF THAT, THE REST OF THE FUNDS, WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE 10,000 TOWARDS MARKETING AND 40,000 TOWARDS DEBT CONSOLIDATION. 
          SO THIS ALLOWS US TO RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY AND GENERATE MORE CASH FLOW, WHICH ALLOWS US TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE AND CREATE MORE EVENTS. 
          IT'S JUST GONNA SNOWBALL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IN CONCLUSION, THE HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB WE'RE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO MEET HUD'S GROWING NEED FOR WELLNESS SPACES WHILE DRIVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          BY INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT, THE HU EDC WILL SUPPORT A SUSTAINABLE 
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COMMUNITY-FOCUSED BUSINESS THAT ENHANCES HU'S QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          WE ATTRACT TOURISM, WE GENERATE LONG TERM ECONOMIC BENEFITS. 
          THIS INITIATIVE ALIGNS WITH HUDDLE POSITIONS FOR BALANCED GROWTH AND POSITIONS THE CITY AS A LEADER IN WELLNESS WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE STRIVE FOR. 
          SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU GUYS A QUICK BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, TRACING, I DEFINITELY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. 
          HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL VISITED THE LOCATION? HENRY? YOU? I DON'T. 
          I KNOW THERE, I'VE NEVER VISITED. 
          YOU'VE BEEN BY, BUT I'VE BEEN BY THERE. 
          I'M FROM HERE AND I KNOW THERE WAS A PATRIOT. 
          UM, YEAH, WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO. 
          I DIDN'T WANNA CONFUSE ANYONE. 
          SO WE ALSO OWN, LIKE NICK AND I, MY BROTHER, MY HUSBANDS WERE TOGETHER IN RELATIONSHIP, ERIC TWO LIFE, ALL THINGS. 
          NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          SORRY. 
          TOUGH CROWD. 
          . 
          NO, WE, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, OPENED OUR FIRST GYM. 
          THIS'LL BE OUR 15TH YEAR OF OPERATION. 
          SO, UM, IN HU WE INTRODUCED A CONTAINER CONCEPT, UH, DURING COVID. 
          OUR FIRST SHIPPING CONTAINER CONCEPT IS IN ROUND DROP BRUSHY CREEK. 
          UM, SO IT'S A SIMILAR CONCEPT. 
          UH, SHIPPING CONTAINERS, UH, IN INDOOR OUTDOOR FACILITY. 
          AGAIN, ROOTED IN COMMUNITY, UH, HEALTH AND FITNESS. 
          AND THEN WE OPENED TUTTLE. 
          I THINK THIS WILL BE GOING ON OUR SECOND YEAR HERE, RIGHT NICK? I THINK WE'RE GOING ON THIRD OF OUR THIRD YEAR ALREADY. 
          OH, JIM WOULD KNOW. 
          YEAH, WE HAD TO GO SEE HIM TOO. 
          SO, UM, SO THIS REALLY, UM, LIKE IF YOU WERE TO VISIT US, LIKE, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? EVERYTHING CHANGES, LIKE HEALTH AND FITNESS EVOLVES, RIGHT? LIKE JUST TRENDS AND THINGS GO UP, THINGS GO DOWN. 
          AND ESPECIALLY PULLING FIGURES ON WELLNESS TOURISM. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH TODAY, IN THIS MOMENT WHAT I SAY THAT WE'RE PULLING PEOPLE IN FROM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CITIES AND EVEN DIFFERENT STATES TO COME AND COME TO OUR RETREATS AND THINGS, NO, BUT THAT'S KNOWING WHERE HEALTH AND FITNESS IS GOING. 
          PEOPLE ARE SEEKING OUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE IN COMMUNITY AND THAT IS ROOTED A LOT IN WELLNESS. 
          SO RATHER THAN HAVING TO TRAVEL TO FAR AWAY PLACES, AGAIN, ACCESSIBILITY, THEY CAN JUST DRIVE DOWN THE STREET OR THEY CAN ACCESS IT FROM THEIR HOME AND JUST WALK INTO OUR FACILITY, UM, BASED UPON THE EXPANSION PLAN TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THESE REALLY AMAZING EXPERIENCES FOR OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, BUT YET STILL APPEAL TO THE OUTSIDERS. 
          SO COMING IN, UM, TO, TO COME AND PATRON OUR EVENTS. 
          SO THE, UH, HIPPO SOCIAL CLUB ESSENTIALLY IS JUST CASTING A BEER NET KNOWING THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS COMING TO US JUST FOR EXERCISE AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I HAVE KIDS. 
          UM, I ALSO, UH, LIVE AND DWELL IN, IN, IN THE SPA IN THIS SPACE OVER HERE. 
          I'M IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          I'M A MENTOR. 
          I WORK WITH FAMILIES AND KIDS. 
          UM, UH, I BELIEVE TERRANCE 'CAUSE I LOOKED YOU ALL UP. 
          I KNOW A LITTLE BIT. 
          I KNOW HE SITS ON ISDI BELIEVE HE'S ALSO AN ADVOCATE OR SITS WITH MADELINE SANDBOX. 
          IT'S MENTAL HEALTH IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I HAVE A TEEN, I HAVE A 14-YEAR-OLD, I HAVE 11 YEAR OLDS. 
          I KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE PERSONALLY AND, AND AROUND THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM REALLY BAD MENTAL SUICIDE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          DO I FEEL THAT OUR FACILITY AND WHAT WE'RE OFFERING AND FEEL MOVEMENT AND CONNECTION AND BEING OUTDOORS, IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S WHY PEOPLE UNDERVALUE IT. 
          UM, I'M NOT THROWING SHADE AT EVIL AT ALL. 
          I'M JUST SAYING IT'S KIND OF A REALLY GREAT SEGUE FOR ME. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          PEOPLE LOVE THOSE BIG ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS. 
          THEY'RE HUGE. 
          AND, AND PEOPLE WILL GO TO THOSE. 
          AND THAT IS A PLACE TO FIND COMMUNITY. 
          BUT ALSO YOU'RE INDOORS ON A SCREEN UNDER FLUORESCENT LIGHTS. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT. 
          I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE BIG LED THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE BRINGING ALL THAT. 
          I'M NOT, WE NEED BOTH. 
          WE NEED BALANCE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL THINGS COMING. 
          UM, I LISTEN, I OBSERVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M, I'M IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND SO FOR US, THIS IS A WAY TO INTRODUCE SOMETHING THAT IS SIMPLE, BUT IT'S VERY INNOVATIVE IN HOW WE ARE APPROACHING THAT. 
          SO IT'S OUR CHALLENGE AND OUR OPPORTUNITY AND WE THINK THAT HURO IS READY TO TAKE A CHANCE AND TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED, GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE IT BACK IN THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. 
          AND FOR A REAL EXPERIENCE. 
          I DID HAVE ERIN, SHE CAME TO AN EVENT WITH US IN FEBRUARY. 
          UM, ON THE 25 DEGREE MORNING, ERIN CAME AS A GUEST, 25 DEGREES. 
          THERE WAS ABOUT 30 TO 50 OF US THAT WERE OUTSIDE DUO, SUNRISE CIRCLE, WOMEN'S CIRCLE. 
          AND ERIN WAS THERE. 
          IT WASN'T ANYTHING CRAZY CRAZIER OVER THE TOP, BUT THAT WAS JUST ON PUTTING ONE LITTLE POST, A LITTLE EVENT, REVIVE AND THRIVE IN 25 DEGREES. 
          I'M NOT KIDDING. 
          I WOULDN'T SHARE THAT PICTURE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE BEST 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL HOLDING HANDS AND WE'VE GOT IT. 
          JUST, IT, I THOUGHT IT LOOKED LIKE AMAZING. 
          UM, AND IT WAS, BUT IT JUST, I HOPE, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST CALL ERIN OUT THAT MAYBE SHE FELT THE ENERGY OF WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE TO BE IN COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST READY TO CONNECT, THAT MAYBE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT THEY SHOW UP AND, AND WE HAVE THAT SPECIAL SAUCE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BRING PEOPLE TO US IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND, AND CONNECT OUR COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CREATING THE ENVIRONMENT 
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WITHOUT EVER STEPPING FOOT ON IT. 
          BUT YES, HENRY, YOU SAID HE'S PASSED THROUGH IT. 
          IT'S NOTHING SPECIAL IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW AND IT WASN'T OPEN, IT LOOKS LIKE, OH, IS THAT THE CHURCH? DO THEY HAVE STORAGE CONTAINERS? BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S LIKE, IT'S COMMUNITY. 
          IT COMES ALIVE WHEN YOU'RE CONNECTED AND ENGAGED IN IT. 
          AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT. 
          AND UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GIVE A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UH, HOW WE CAN FIT AND MAKE A PLACE THROUGH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          ESSENTIALLY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION AND YOUR PASSIONATE DELIVERY ABOUT WHAT YOU DO THINK IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. 
          UM, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT YOUR LEASE. 
          UHHUH . 
          SO YOUR LEASE, UM, FROM THE CHURCH OFF FOR THE LAND, UM, THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, I THINK YOU HAVE 50,000 IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET FOR THE ASK, HAVE YOU ALREADY RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, PLANS AND BUILD OUT COSTS FOR THAT 50,000? AND WHAT ARE THE TERMS OF YOUR LEASE? SHOULD THAT END THEN, IS THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LOST MONEY, LOST OPPORTUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? JUST FOR, UH, I CAN INTRODUCE NICK. 
          HE CAN SPEAK TO THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          , I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ATTIRE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS LAST MINUTE. 
          I HAD NO CLOSE AND IT CAME FROM THE GYM. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE, WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY MEMBERS OF, OF THE CHURCH AS WELL. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A LONG-TERM LEASE THERE. 
          AND THEN WE, UH, LICENSE THE LAND, THE 26 ACRES IN THE BACK FROM THE HOA AND UM, AND, AND SO BASICALLY WE, WE DEVELOPED THE TRAILS BACK THERE. 
          SO WE PUT IN THE TRAILS THERE, THEY LICENSE US THE LAND IN ORDER TO DO IT WHERE, UM, THE HOA CAN USE IT AND ALL THEIR, UH, PEOPLE CAN USE THE TRAILS FOR FREE. 
          AND THEN OUR, UH, LEASE WITH THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY, IT'S, THEY'RE LIKE 10 YEAR LEASES. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN ALL OF THE CONTAINERS, THEY'RE MOBILE, SO ANY OF 'EM COULD BE PICKED UP OR MOVED OR STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S BRILLIANT IDEA. 
          UM, MY CONCERN IS JUST FOR THE, THE THE POLE BARN. 
          AND THAT'S, YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE AS WELL. 
          RIGHT? UM, AND, AND, AND THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS THAT, UM, WE, WE'VE LIKE WENT OFF OF THAT, LIKE, UM, WHEN WE WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO BASICALLY, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO FOUNDATION, UM, IT'S GONNA BE TURFED. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TURF IT WHERE IT'S LIKE POROUS AND THEN THE RAIN AND ALL THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I, UH, IT, IT GETS CON UM, IT GET GETS APPROVED LIKE THAT. 
          SO, SO THE 50,000 IS FOR HOLES? THE YEAH, THE, THE ROOF FOR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT AND, AND TO RE LIKE A, A GOOD PORTION OF IT'S TO REDO THE AESTHETICS OF OUR CURRENT SHIPPING CONTAINERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, LIKE WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO INSULATE THEM SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ALL WEATHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          'CAUSE AS WE'VE NOTICED, WE'RE, OKAY. 
          SO PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASK IS ALSO FOR UPGRADING THE CURRENT CORRECT. 
          100%. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN WINDOWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND DO Y'ALL HAVE THE, DO Y'ALL HAVE, UH, CONTRACTOR ESTIMATES FOR THE POLE BARN? I AM A CONTRACTOR THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE. 
          I AM A CONTRACTOR. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA BUILD IT? I'M THE, YEAH, I BUILT IT ALL. 
          SO YOU'VE ALREADY BUILT IT? NO, NO, I, I MEAN, I BUILD YOU MEAN BUILD THE POLE BARN? RIGHT. 
          SO THE POLE BARN IS ACTUALLY, UM, UM, WE'VE BEEN, UM, WE, THE CHURCH BUILDERS FOR CHRIST WHO BUILT THE CHURCH WOULD ACTUALLY BE BUILDING THE POLE BARN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY, AND THEN THE CHURCH WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S OUR PLAN IS THAT BUILDERS FOR CHRIST WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE ONES BUILDING THE POLE BARN. 
          OKAY. 
          IT COMES IN. 
          SO THE CHURCH WOULD ALSO BE THEN USING THAT? YEAH, THEY WOULD, LIKE, IF THEY DID A WEDDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT, IT WOULD BE, ANYBODY CAN USE IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE OPEN TO LIKE, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO RENT IT OR UTILIZE IT, YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF OUR THING. 
          IT'S ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, THE YEAH. 
          THE WAY WE'RE KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS WITH IT, BUT, OKAY. 
          UH, JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THE 10 YEAR LEASE THAT YOU DO HAVE WITH THEM IS, IT'S ALREADY SIGNED AND YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A LEASE. 
          I GOTTA GO BACK ON IT. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS 10 YEARS IN, IN THE BEGINNING, SO MAYBE IT'S EIGHT YEARS LEFT. 
          BUT I MEAN, I CAN, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT I COULD GO GET A LONGER TERM ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN, BECAUSE WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, IT'S, YEAH. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, THERE'S ALSO THE, THIS 40,000 IN DEBT CONSOLIDATION AS PART OF THE FUNDING REQUEST. 
          SO CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DETAILS AROUND THAT? JUST FOR , BEFORE WE ASK THAT QUESTION, COULD WE ASK COUNSEL IF THERE'S ANY TEDC RESTRICTIONS AS TO WHETHER THAT CAN EVEN BE ON THE TABLE? YEAH. 
          ANYTHING IN STATUTE WITH DEBT CONSOLIDATION WITH RESPECT TO, IN INCENTIVIZING? WELL, UM, I'M SORRY, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION IN PUBLIC. 
          OH, WELL THEN I, THE, THIS IS THE, THE CONCERN IS THAT, SO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION CAN ONLY SUPPORT AUTHORIZED PROJECTS. 
          AN AUTHORIZED PROJECTS ARE DEFINED IN THE STATUTE. 
          AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE KIND OF, UH, UH, PROJECT YOU HAVE, THE CLOSEST THING THAT I FIND THAT FITS IT 
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IS CALLED, UH, 5 0 5 1 5 2 PROJECTS RELATED TO RECREATIONAL OR COMMUNITY FACILITIES. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          EXCEPT THAT IT SAYS PROJECT INCLUDES LAND, BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT, FACILITIES SET FOUND BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE REQUIRED OR SUITABLE FOR USE FOR PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO FIT, THAT'LL FIT WELL, WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          OH, OH, HOLD ON. 
          AND THEN IT SAYS, AND PUBLIC PARK PURPOSES AND EVENTS. 
          SO, AND IT'S NOT PUBLIC, IS IT? YOU, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A MEMBERSHIP FEE TO PARTICIPATE. 
          IT, IT'S A, IT'S A LAYERED THING. 
          SO AS I SAID, I, I WAIT FOR QUESTIONS TO KIND OF ADD THOSE LAYERS. 
          SO THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH HUDDLE TOWN SQUARE TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND, AND THAT WAS BASED ON THIS, THAT'S GREEN SPACE THAT WAS LOCATED BEHIND US. 
          AND WHO OWNS THIS LAND? SO, UM, I KNOW, UH, YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH HUDDLE TOWN SQUARE, THE MIC. 
          OH, SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, SO YEAH, SO I REACHED OUT TO, UM, WELL, PETER GORDON HAPPENS TO LIVE THERE AND HE SITS ON THEIR BOARD. 
          AND SO THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL COLLABORATION THAT WE HAD WITH, WITH HUDDLE TOWN SQUARE. 
          SO THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS TO, TO ENSURE, UM, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF LIABILITY AND TO ENSURE THAT THE HOA FEELS SAFE, THAT THERE'S NOT LIKE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE JUST RUNNING ON THEIR TRAILS. 
          UM, WHICH, WHICH THERE'S NOT, IT'S MEMBER BASED. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE A SERVICE BASED, LIKE OUR GYMS AND HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB IS ESSENTIALLY A MEMBER BASED, UH, MEANING IT'S, IT'S S YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY COME, YOU'RE A MEMBER WITH US AND THAT CAN LOOK LIKE MANY THINGS. 
          SO YOU CAN BE A MEMBER AT OUR GYM, YOU CAN BE A MEMBER THROUGH HIPAA SOCIAL CLUB, YOU CAN BE A MEMBER AND COME FOR THE DAY. 
          YOU COULD BE JUST A TRAIL MEMBER. 
          SO, UM, I THINK A LOT OF IT, UH, AGAIN, HAS TO DO WITH INSURANCE AND LIABILITY THINGS. 
          SO AT SOME OF THESE, UM, IT COULD BE FOR THE POLE BARN THAT'S ON THE 10 ACRES THAT CHRIST THE ROCK OWNS, RIGHT? WHERE OUR PHYSICAL CAMPUSES. 
          SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY EVENT, AND THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE DO WHERE IT'S HAPPENING ON THE 10 ACRES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF OUR FACILITY. 
          SO, SPEAKING TO, IF THIS HELPS A BIT, AND THIS IS WHERE CHENEY WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL WE'VE NEVER REALLY FUNDED A PROJECT, REALLY THAT FALLS UNDER THIS. 
          SO IT'S YOUR CHALLENGE AND YOUR OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, SO UNDER OUR GYM, LIKE I SAID, MY HUSBAND, HE IS A PROFESSIONAL MIXED MARTIAL ARTS MAR MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FIGHTER. 
          SO WE DO A LOT OF AMATEUR AND, UH, PROFESSIONAL COMBATIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY FROM BEGINNER THROUGH, UH, PROFESSIONAL. 
          SO I THINK WE WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA UNDER THAT NUMBER SECTION. 
          SPEAKING TO PROFESSIONAL AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. 
          WELL, YEAH, THE, THE, WELL PROBABLY THE MAIN ONE THAT WE DO IS, UM, AND I, I THROW, I'M ON THE BOARD FOR USA WRESTLING AND, UM, I'M IN CHARGE OF ALL THE EVENTS. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO HOST YOUTH WRESTLING TOURNAMENTS, WHICH I PROBABLY HOST AROUND A DOZEN A YEAR. 
          UM, AND THAT, THAT THEY, THEY'RE USUALLY, UM, LIKE ON FRIDAYS OR, WELL SATURDAYS, I THINK THIS NEXT ONE I JUST DID ONE, TWO WEEKS AGO AND IT WAS LIKE 150 YOUTH KIDS FROM THE AGES OF LIKE FIVE TO, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          SO WE DO THAT FOR LIKE FOUR MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. 
          DO THEY SPEND THE NIGHT OR THOSE OVERNIGHT? WELL, SOME OF 'EM. 
          SO LIKE, WELL, NOT AT YOUR SITE FACILITY. 
          SAME. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW WE, WE DO PULL PEOPLE FROM DALLAS. 
          IT DEPENDS ON THE, ON THE WEEKEND OF IT. 
          AND ONCE WE CAN GET OUR OWN FACILITY. 
          'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING A REAL TOUGH TIME, UH, WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          LIKE ACTUALLY I WAS SUPPOSED TO, UH, DO ONE OVER, UM, MLK WEEKEND. 
          UH, WE FIRST WANTED TO DO IT, WE, WE'VE THROWN TWO AT HU HIGH SCHOOL, BUT WE COULDN'T DO IT THIS YEAR BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT WAS WAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO THEY KIND OF TURNED US DOWN TO GO THERE. 
          THEN WE WENT TO CEDAR RIDGE. 
          THEY FIRST INITIALLY SAID YES, AND THEN THEY SAID NO. 
          AND WE ENDED UP, UH, THEN CEDAR PARK, YOU KNOW, FIRST TOLD US YES, THEN NO. 
          AND THEN FINALLY WESTWOOD ALLOWED US TO, TO THROW, UH, TWO TOURNAMENTS THERE THIS YEAR. 
          BUT THE PLAN IS TO NOW WE CAN CONTROL THAT AND HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE KIDS TO COMPETE IN SPORTS. 
          SURE. 
          MOSTLY WRESTLING. 
          AND, AND SO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, TO THE BOARD IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND, UM, THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS FOUND BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE REQUIRED OR SUITABLE FOR USE FOR AMATEUR SPORTS. 
          AND SO IF, IF THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SUFFICIENT MATERIAL, IT WOULD BE A PROJECT. 
          YOU COULD, YOU COULD ACTUALLY FUND. 
          HOWEVER, IT IS BUILDING LAND EQUIPMENT, FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IT'S, UM, OPEN SPACE IMPROVEMENTS, MUSEUMS, EXHIBITION, FACILITIES AND RELATED STORE RESTAURANT CONCESSION AND AUTOMOBILE PARKING FACILITIES AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND ROADS, STREETS AND WATER, NOT DEBT CONSOLIDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          THE TWO POINTS THAT FIRST WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE FOR THE, THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT IT IS SUITABLE FOR ATHLETIC AMATEUR ATHLETIC EVENTS. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I, I COULD GET ALL THAT STUFF FOR SURE. 
          BUT THEN THE, 
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ANY FUNDS THAT THE BOARD WOULD PROVIDE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THESE ITEMS ONLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN $40,000 THAT YOU COULD USE TO CONSOLIDATE YOUR DEBT, YOU'D HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO ALSO REQUIRE PROOF OF HOW THE MONEY WAS PAID OR SPENT SO THAT THAT WAY THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WERE, SO WE JUST KIND OF THREW EVERYTHING IN THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A END ALL OR BE ALL FOR THE, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO DO, IS TO LET, I, I, THE BIGGEST THING IS THE EXPANSION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, WE ALREADY MM-HMM . 
          BUT, OKAY. 
          HEY CHANEY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR BUDGET LOAN ITEM? FOR, FOR SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVES? YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU GUYS TYPICALLY, WELL THIS YEAR IS APPROVED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND THEN IT WOULD BE LESS THE HAPPY PANINI 30,000. 
          SO YOU HAVE A $70,000 BALANCE AT THIS TIME AND BUDGET GOES THROUGH, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30. 
          YOU COULD, UH, SET IT UP WHERE YOU MAKE A PAYMENT NOW AND A PAYMENT LATER. 
          YOU COULD MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND SEE IF THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED BY THE, BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FUNDING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO. 
          NOW THIS, THIS WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          AFTER WE MAKE A DECISION. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WILL BE A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT UNDER, UH, CHAPTER 5 0 5, WHICH WILL NEED YOUR APPROVAL, TWO READINGS AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL AND THEIR APPROVAL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          JUST A REAL QUICK COUPLE OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S ALL, IT'S UM, I'M ASSUMING THE CHURCH PARKING OFF SUNDAY ACCOMMODATES ANY REQUIREMENTS THE CITY HAS AS FAR AS PARKING ACCESS, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          THAT WE ALREADY KNEW THAT WAS GONNA COME UP, BUT COULD WE, WE LISTEN, WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WHEN EVENTS GET A CERTAIN SIZE. 
          UM, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH COTTONWOOD CREEK TO BE ABLE TO, OUR ELEMENTARY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, UM, A, UH, THEIR PARKING LOTS AS WELL, WHICH THEY JUST PUT A LIGHT UP, UM, ACROSS. 
          SO IT'S JUST TURNED OUT AT THE PERFECT TIME. 
          AND THEN IT'D BE GREAT TO PUT A WALK CROSSWALK THERE AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE A BIG PART OF THIS IS THE COLLABORATION. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, I DO A LOT INSIDE THE SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S HARD TO BE ABLE TO, UM, DO, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH HUDDLE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          'CAUSE I, I, UH, DO A LOT WITH DR. WHITFIELD THAT I HAVE. 
          I LOVE, UH, DR. WHITFIELD AND BEING WITH HER, BUT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE, WE WORKED ON A WELLNESS GRANT WITH THE SCHOOL, WITH THE ID BUT IT DIDN'T GET CONSIDERED OR APPROVED OR UH, SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS. 
          THE ISDS LIKE THIS ISN'T JUST LIKE OUR CAMPUS IS JUST LIKE THE BREEDING GROUND, LIKE THE NUCLEUS, RIGHT? WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GROWING THE ECOSYSTEM AND THEN BEING ABLE TO, AND INCLUDE EVERYONE IN, IN THE SCHOOLS, THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE NONPROFITS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU PROOF OF CONCEPT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS TO SUPPORT ANY OF THOSE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE TRUE TO HUDU. 
          UM, THOSE ARE VERY, UH, NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS 'CAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE EVER SINCE WE'VE OPENED OUR FIRST BUSINESS IS FIND WAYS TO GIVE BACK AND COMMUNITY IMPACT. 
          UM, SO FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT PROOF OF CONCEPT EVENTS WE'VE DONE TO SUPPORT ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONABLES THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          UM, ALSO TOO, I LOOKED UP I MORE QUESTION OH, BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING IS IT'S ALL GONNA GO BACK TO THE CITY. 
          SO PARKING'S ADDRESSED YES. 
          AND RESTROOMS. YEAH. 
          WELL, YES, WE UTIL YES. 
          SO WELL THAT, THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF 'EM OF IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO, SO WE DO HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE, UH, CHURCH FOR THE RESTROOMS, BUT WE, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT THAT IS TO GET ONE OF OUR OWN MOBILE, UM, CONTAINERS. 
          THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, ADDED IN BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN POTTY CODES. 
          POTTY, YEAH, I MEAN THESE ARE, THESE ARE PORTABLE ONCE AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'D BE THE SAME THING. 
          THERE'S, UM, UM, WE, OUR, OUR ROUND ROCK LOCATION, THAT'S HOW IT IS. 
          IT'S UM, THEY COME EVERY, UH, WEEK TO UH, PUMP THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          SO WE, WE ARE, WE WANNA GET OUR OWN, UM, LIKE PRIVATE ONE, LIKE A 10 BY 10 WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T ALWAYS BE DEPENDENT UPON THE CHURCH. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. 
          UH, AS FAR AS EXPANSION, NOT THAT IT'S FAR AWAY OR ANYTHING, IT'S ON THE SAME GROUNDS, BUT IT'S KIND OF ANNOYING TO WALK FOR SOME PEOPLE A HUNDRED YARDS MOVEMENT KEY PILLAR. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          MAKE IT A RACE. 
          ONE OTHER THING, LIKE, SO THIS IS REALLY LIKE OUR FIRST YEAR, BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR, LIKE ALL OF LAST YEAR WAS BUILDING, UM, I MEAN WE LITERALLY PUT IN FIVE MILES OF NATURE TRAILS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING, SO WE, WE KINDA HAD OUR FIRST LIKE SMALL LITTLE RACE, OH, ON, ON THANKSGIVING, WHICH IS WAS TURKEY TROTT. 
          I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 140 PARTICIPANTS. 
          OUR REAL BIG ONE IS COMING UP MARCH 22ND, 22ND. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE THE FIRST MARATHON EVER HELD. 
          UM, IN HUDU, WE, WE'VE COLLABORATED WITH TEJAS TRAILS, WHICH IS REALLY THE PREMIER, UH, TRAIL RUNNING COMPANY. 
          AND WE HAVE TWO RACES ALREADY SCHEDULED WITH THEM. 
          ONE IN MARCH AND ONE IN APRIL. 
          UM, 
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COMING UP THERE'S UH, I THINK WE HAVE A HALF MARATHON, A FULL MARATHON. 
          UH, THERE'S LIKE LAST MAN STANDING, LAST MAN STANDING THING. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE A HIPPO, HIPPO HALL, A HIPPO HALL. 
          YOU GOTTA CARRY A HIPPO, UM, DURING YOUR RACE, WHICH I THINK IS A 5K. 
          SO, UH, A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS COMING UP. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT WAS, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY COMING WITH OUR, OUR 12 MONTH PROJECTIONS. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE FOUR, UH, PRETTY BIG EVENTS THAT WE THINK ARE GONNA BE, UH, PRETTY GOOD. 
          AND WE LIKE OUR TURKEY CHOP WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS JUST ALMOST JUST WORD OF MOUTH THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT MEMBERS AND YEAH, I THINK WE HAD A 135 OR SOMETHING. 
          140. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO TOO, LIKE I SAID, UM, EVEN THOUGH THE BUSINESS SOCIAL CLUB IS NEW, IT'S LIKE OUR FIRST YEAR, RIGHT? WE TRY LIKE INAUGURAL EVENTS, SO WE KEEP 'EM SIMPLE PROOF OF CONCEPT. 
          SO LAST YEAR OUR TURKEY TROT, EVERY YEAR WE AMPLIFY. 
          SO WE HAD 67 PEOPLE LAST YEAR, AND THEN THIS YEAR WE DOUBLED THAT WE HAD 120. 
          SO THEN WE TALK ABOUT AMPLIFYING, BRINGING THE COMMUNITY IMPACT IN. 
          SO THAT WAS ALSO PARTNERING WITH, UH, THE PAJAMA PROGRAM, WHICH IS A NATIONAL 5 0 1 C, UM, NONPROFIT THAT, UH, ESSENTIALLY GIVES, UH, GOOD NIGHTS TO FOSTER BOYS AND GIRLS IN, IN, IN LIKE CENTRAL AUSTIN AREA. 
          SO LIKE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING COMMUNITY, UM, AND THAT IS A BIG PART THAT HAS SERVED US WELL IN OUR BUSINESS. 
          IT'S PEOPLE SOMETIMES WANNA HELP, THEY WANNA CONTRIBUTE, THEY WANNA VOLUNTEER, BUT NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND IN THE, IN THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN, NOT EVERYBODY CAN WRITE A CHECK. 
          AND SO IT'S ABOUT BEING ABLE TO COME OUT TO VOLUNTEER, TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO TAKE, TO ENGAGE AND COME TOGETHER. 
          SO HIPAA TRAIL FEST, AGAIN, THIS IS A, A BIGGER COLLABORATION. 
          UM, TEJAS TRAILS, THEY DO BIG TIME EVENTS. 
          I DON'T WANNA MAKE MAKE YOU NERVOUS, WE'RE NOT DRAWING INTERNATIONAL RUNNERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITIES. 
          THEY DO DRAW ULTRA RUNNERS AND SOME OF THEIR PLACES IN AND THROUGHOUT TEXAS. 
          SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING THING. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'RE KEEPING IT SIMPLE. 
          THESE ARE RACES THAT WE CAN EASILY DOWNSCALE, BUT IT'S ABOUT CREATING THIS EXPERIENCE. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME REALLY COOL THINGS THAT, UM, COME OUT OF THAT. 
          UM, AND EVERYTHING WE DO IS ROOTED IN COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S MOSTLY EVERYTHING IS FAMILY FRIENDLY, SO THAT'S A VERY EASY BOX FOR US TO CHECK. 
          I WAS SWEATING, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA COME WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S LIKE DONE AND DONE . 
          UM, SORRY, AGAIN, SERIOUS. 
          SO I, I'VE OBVIOUSLY VISITED YOUR FACILITY OUT THERE AND THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT CONCEPT AND YOU DO BRING A LOT OF COMMUNITY AROUND AND I LOVE THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE BRINGING DIFFERENT, UM, BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH THE FOOD AND IF THERE'S A MASSEUSE OUT THERE AND MUSIC AND, AND IT'S A REALLY UNIQUE WAY TO GET TOGETHER WITH EVERYONE ON A, A SATURDAY MORNING. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. 
          UM, AS FAR AS, UM, FUNDING GOES, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK WITH THE BOARD AND SEE HOW EVERYONE FEELS ABOUT THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAVEN'T REALLY FOCUSED ON STRUCTURE. 
          I KNOW SOME BUILDINGS NEEDED SOME WORK DOWNTOWN AND WE WEREN'T REALLY ON BOARD WITH PUTTING FUNDS TOWARDS THE STRUCTURE PART OF THINGS BECAUSE WE JUST, THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EVENT CENTER IN HUDA, I SAW THAT ON YOUR ITEM AFTER WE LEAVE. 
          SO YES, LET US BE THAT PRIVATE PARTNER. 
          UM, AND THAT'S A BIG THING TOO. 
          PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          YOU HAVE TO DO IT TOGETHER. 
          AND SO WHILE YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE BIG CITY THINGS, WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AND TURN THEM AROUND A LOT QUICKER. 
          AND, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, SO YEAH, YOU CAN PLAY AND COME BACK TO US LIKE AGAIN, SHANIE WAS SO GREAT, SHE CAME OUT, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL BRING HER ON SITE FOR HER FLORAL AND UH, FLOWER. 
          AND IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, SHE'S A FLORIST AND SHE DOES ALL KINDS OF THINGS. 
          YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT. 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S AGAIN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE ON OUR CAMPUS MAGIC, YOU KNOW, YOU LEARN THINGS. 
          BUT UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, WE ARE ABLE TO LIKE BE FLUID AND, AND KIND OF, I KNOW WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, A CAMPUS LIKE THIS IS NEEDED IN HUDU. 
          I I DON'T THINK IT COULD COME AT A BETTER TIME. 
          UM, AND IF YOU CAN TELL US WHAT THE NUMBERS NEED TO LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THE ITEMS NEED TO LOOK LIKE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS TO MAKE IT LOOK, MAKE IT MAKE SENSE ON PAPER, THAT'S THE EASY PART. 
          UM, THAT'S THE EASY PART. 
          BRINGING COMMUNITY IS THE EASY PART FOR, FOR US. 
          UM, AND UH, THAT'S HAP HAPPENED TO BE WHAT I LOVE TO DO. 
          SO, AND THEN ALSO JOE, I WAS GONNA GIVE, UH, WE KNOW KE WE KNOW GREG GOODMAN AGAIN, ANOTHER BUSINESS WE PARTNER WITH. 
          HE'S FANTA FANTASTIC, HE'S FABULOUS. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT HIS WAS SOMETHING LIKE CONTINGENT UPON LIKE GIVING PAINT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? CONTINGENT UPON THIS A, B, C. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COMFORTABLE, LIKE THAT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, I, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO THE WORDS WE SAY, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO EASILY FOLLOW THROUGH AND EXECUTE. 
          SO I KNOW THAT HIS BUS, UH, HIS WAS A LITTLE BIT STRUCTURED THAT WAY, SO KNOW THAT WE'RE, THIS ISN'T LIKE A ONE 
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SIZE FITS ALL ITSELF. 
          HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU GUYS GONE TO, UH, DISCUSS HOT TAX? I WANNA TALK ABOUT IT. 
          I I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE RIGHT, UH, WHAT'S THAT? NO, I, OH, ARE YOU TELLING ME TO STOP? NO, I'M JUST SAYING. 
          OH, I WAS NO STOP. 
          ARE THEY SAYING NO? NO, I, THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO DIP IN KNOWING THAT I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT THERE AT THIS MOMENT TONIGHT, BUT I KNOW A LITTLE BIT, LIKE A VERY LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOT WHATEVER THE TAX. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF WELLNESS TOURISM, LIKE IF YOU RESEARCH SOME OF THIS WELLNESS TOURISM THAT IS HAPPENING IN AND AROUND AND MINERAL, WELL TEXAS IS, IS THE, UH, NUMBER ONE AND THE CLOSEST ONE. 
          THEY'RE KNOWN AS THE WELLNESS, UH, DESTINATION IN ALL OF TEXAS. 
          BUT THAT IS SET TO BE LIKE IN THE TRILLIONS BY 2030. 
          SO IT JUST TELLS YOU LIKE THE CURRENT STATE, THE CURRENT CULTURE, UM, THE THINGS LIKE, I DUNNO IF I'M BEING RECORDED, YOUR EVILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THOSE ARE NEEDED AND IT'S GREAT FOR BUSINESSES BRINGS MONEY INTO THE CITY. 
          BUT WE ALSO NEED PLACES AND CAMPUSES LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH PLACES LIKE MADELINE SANDBOX TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS TOGETHER AND TO SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE AND HOW TO CONNECT AND HOW TO ENGAGE AND BE SOCIAL. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          AND THAT GOES FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. 
          SO AS MUCH AS THIS FOR THE KIDS, IT'S FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT LIVES IN DWELLS IN AND AROUND CENTRAL TEXAS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT IS THAT IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE ARE THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO HUDU. 
          AND IF I MAY REAL QUICK, JUST TO ADDRESS, UH, SECRETARY OWENS'S QUESTION OR, OR COMMENT. 
          I'LL MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU. 
          GUESS WHO YOUR POINT OF CONTACT IS FOR HOT FUNDS? YOU YEAH, SHAY. 
          YES. 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT OPTION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I WAS LIKE TRYING TO LOOK IT UP AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THEY'RE GONNA ASK ME THE HARD QUESTIONS . 
          BUT YES, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR HOT TAX. 
          HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN YOUR YEAR ONE YEAR TWO PRODUCT PROJECTIONS? OH, FANTASTIC. 
          JUST BECAUSE, OH SORRY. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          IT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S PHENOMENAL. 
          UM, NO, JUST BECAUSE, UM, WE JUST HAVE LIKE NICK AND I PERSONALLY, WE HAVE 15 YEARS OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP BEHIND US. 
          UM, UH, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SAY THIS 'CAUSE I'M NOT A WASN'T BORN AND RAISED HERE. 
          HOWEVER, WE MOVED HERE FROM CHICAGO DURING COVID AND ESSENTIALLY WE KNEW NO ONE HERE AND WE BUILT TWO MORE BUSINESSES ON A SHIPPING CONTAINER CONCEPT, KNOWING, NOT KNOWING ANYONE, A SHIPPING CONTAINER CONCEPT RUNNING OUTDOORS. 
          AND WE'VE BUILT TWO VIBRANT BUSINESSES AND NOW A THIRD MATTHEW, I'M CONFIDENT. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY CONFIDENT. 
          WE, WE'VE MET SO MANY PEOPLE OVER THE PAST, LIKE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. 
          LIKE I'M ALREADY SITTING ON A COUPLE OF BOARDS, ESPECIALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPORTS. 
          SO, UM, UM, I'M, I'M AN OFFICIAL FOR, UM, UH, UIL AND I'M PRETTY SURE I'M GONNA BE IN A PRETTY BIG POSITION THERE OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE A BOARD POSITION OPENED THERE, UM, FOR THE PRESIDENCY AND A COUPLE PEOPLE ASKED ME TO, UM, UM, RUN FOR IT, WHICH I, I'M PRETTY SURE I'LL GET. 
          AND I ALSO SIT ON THE BOARD FOR USA WRESTLING, UH, FOR TEXAS. 
          AND I'M THE EVENTS DIRECTOR FOR, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS USA WRESTLING. 
          SO MY PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE A, A BIG STAPLE OF WHAT WE DO, UM, IS HOSTING THE WRESTLING TOURNAMENTS AND SCRIMMAGES AND ALL THAT FOR, UM, KIDS. 
          SO I KNOW YOU GUYS DUNNO A LOT ABOUT WRESTLING, BUT IT'S BLOWING UP  AND MY DAUGHTER JUST MADE THE, UH, STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS LAST, UH, ON SATURDAY. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY PROUD. 
          SHE'S ONLY A FRESHMAN. 
          LITTLE BRAGGING RIGHTS THERE. 
          YEAH, SHE HAD A GOOD COACH. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS FOR COMING. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, I KNOW. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          BEING AN ENTREPRENEUR IS VERY HARD. 
          IT'S VERY HARD WORK. 
          TAKES A LOT OF DEDICATION AND SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANKS FOR THE WARM WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          ANY ACTION FROM THE BOARD? THIS IS POSTED FOR ACTION IF YOU SO CHOOSE. 
          UM, I THINK FURTHER DISCUSSION ON TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          HOW TO STRUCTURE IT. 
          HOW TO STRUCTURE IT, YEAH. 
          WOULD BE IDEAL. 
          AND DO WE WANNA PUT THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING OR AN AGENDA ITEM OR WOULD IT BE BEST TO DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? I DON'T THINK IT'S POSTED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT. 
          NOT TONIGHT, BUT FOR FUTURE. 
          OH, MAYBE SHE CAN WORK ON I DO, DO WE, DO WE NEED, DO I DO HAVE A COUPLE LEGAL QUESTIONS. 
          SO IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION NEXT, NEXT SESSION. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT DIRECTION THE BOARD HAS AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING WE WOULD HAVE A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          WE CAN'T DO, WE CAN'T DO LIKE, UH, ASK STAFF TO REQUEST FURTHER DOCUMENTATION AROUND AMATEUR SPORTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE CAN'T. 
          SURE. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD, WHAT ARE, WHAT DOCUMENTATION WOULD YOU LIKE? WOULD WE, WOULD WE DIRECT STAFF TO REQUEST DOCUMENTATION REGARDING THE AMATEUR SPORTS REQUIREMENT? 
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THE ELIGIBLE, SO THAT WE HAVE PROJECT CRITERIA? WHAT'S THAT? THE ELIGIBLE PROJECT CRITERIA. 
          RIGHT? YES. 
          BECAUSE THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE MORE ROOM TO MOVE IN THERE AND SEE WHAT ELSE I CAN FIND. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT'S GOOD SPEAKING. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. 
          SPEAKING TO THAT. 
          WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL OR HELP FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CRITERIA? WOULD YOU FEEL MORE CONFIDENT IN US IF WE WERE TO WRITE OUT, LIKE, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? IT WOULDN'T JUST BE WRESTLING, BUT WE COULD ESSENTIALLY GIVE YOU LIKE A FORECAST OF EVENTS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, TRANSPIRE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS. 
          AND YEAH. 
          I, I MEAN, UH, PO BOTH YOUR PAST EVENTS, THE, THE RUNNING EVENTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY HELD THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AS WELL AS ANY FUTURE EVENTS OF WHICH YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THOSE WILL BE HELPFUL INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE. 
          AND ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE FROM THOSE, IF YOU HAVE FLYERS FROM LAST YEAR OR ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS, IF YOU WOULD ADD THOSE INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, WE HAVE ALL THAT FROM OUR, UM, WE CALL 'EM OUR, OUR, OUR SHOWCASE NIGHTS, WHICH WE RUN, UH, TWO OF THEM. 
          THEY'RE LIKE BELT TESTINGS AND, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE HOLD, LIKE, BOXING AND JUUJITSU AND, AND WRESTLING. 
          UH, JUST, THAT'S JUST THROUGH OUR STUDENTS, THAT THAT WASN'T EVEN FOR OUT AND THAT DRAWS LIKE, UH, A HUNDRED, 150 PEOPLE AND WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THOSE FLYERS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR. 
          SURE. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD INDICATE ON THAT, WHICH ONES, UM, YOU BELIEVE, UM, HAD OVERNIGHT STAYS IN THE AREA? WELL, THOSE, THE, THE OVERNIGHT STAYS ONES WILL BE THE ACTUAL WRESTLING TOURNAMENTS THAT, UH, WE, WE WOULD HOST THROUGH USA WRESTLING. 
          WE CAN MAYBE GET THAT WITH TEJAS TRAILS FOR YEAH. 
          AND TESS TRAILS. 
          SO THEY COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. 
          EVEN, UH, FOR THESE TRAIL RUNS, THESE, UH, THESE ULTRA, UH, TRAIL RUNNERS ARE, IS CRAZY THE RIGHT WORD? OR LITTLE. 
          WELL, AND MAYBE THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY TOUGH. 
          SO THEY TRAVEL PRETTY FAR DISTANCES. 
          THESE, UH, THESE, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE GET THE TEJAS TRAIL? OH, OF COURSE. 
          COURSE. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING WITH HIM TOMORROW. 
          HE'LL, SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          HE'LL BE AT OUR CAMPUS TOMORROW SO WE CAN, UH, CAN YOU MAYBE REQUEST SOME YEAH. 
          NUMBERS FROM OTHER TYPES OF EVENTS, UH, IN SIMILAR SIZED TOWNS, OR JUST FOR SURE. 
          SO THAT WE CAN JUST TRY TO GET AN IDEA FOR SCALABILITY. 
          YEAH, WE COULD GET THAT FROM TEJAS TRAILS AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          5.4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING A STAFF PRESENTATION ON DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATION STRATEGY AND PROCEDURES RELATING TO THE PRESS RELEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING, HU. 
          ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          UH, FOR THE RECORD, DAVID AMSLER, DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS. 
          I'M HERE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES JUST TO CLARIFY OUR PRESS RELEASE PROCESS AND HOW WE ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, UM, ACCURACY AND CONSISTENCY IN OUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. 
          AS PART OF MY ROLE AS DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS, I DO OVERSEE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY OF HUDU. 
          UH, WE WORK DIRECTLY, UH, WITH AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS TO GATHER NECESSARY FACTS FOR EACH PRESS RELEASE. 
          AND OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE WHAT WE SHARE ALIGNS WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS, UH, VISION STATEMENT, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH TRANSPARENT, TIMELY, AND CONSISTENT INFORMATION FROM CITY HALL WHILE FOSTERING AN OPEN DIALOGUE THAT STRENGTHENS COMMUNITY TRUSTS. 
          OUR STANDARD PROCEDURE ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOLLOWS THIS STRUCTURE. 
          WE GATHER THE FACTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. 
          WE THEN DRAFT A RELEASE THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCURACY. 
          AND THEN WE NOTIFY CITY COUNCIL AS A COURTESY BEFORE PUBLICATION IN CASE, UM, THEY ARE TO RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS OR MEDIA INQUIRIES. 
          UH, WHEN WE SEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS NOT FOR APPROVAL. 
          THIS, THIS IS A COURTESY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WHEN A PRESS RELEASE IS NECESSARY, THAT ALONE SIGNALS THAT SPEED IS A TOP PRIORITY. 
          WHETHER RESPONDING TO A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE, CLARIFYING INFORMATION, OR UPDATING THE PUBLIC ON AN URGENT MATTER THAT DELAYS, UH, ON AN URGENT MATTER DELAYS CAN CREATE CONFUSION OR ALLOW MISINFORMATION TO SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THAT'S WHY OUR PROCESS IS DESIGNED TO BE BOTH THOROUGH AND EFFICIENT, UH, BALANCING ACCURACY WITH THE URGENCY OF GETTING INFORMATION OUT QUICKLY. 
          FOR EDC SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF REVIEW. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED AS A CITY TO RELEASE ANY MEDIA PRESS RELEASES OR COMMUNICATIONS WITHOUT THE HU DDO, UH, UH, HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, UH, CHENEY GAMBOA. 
          UH, FORTUNATELY, 
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CHENEY IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR HIGHLY ENGAGED, UH, DIRECTORS, AND SHE IS, UH, EXTREMELY ENGAGED IN ANYTHING, UH, THAT RELATES TO THE EDC, ENSURING THAT IT IS ACCURATELY REPRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND THIS STEP IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING TRUST AND CREDIBILITY IN THE, IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS. 
          OUR APPROACH IS DESIGNED TO BE EFFICIENT, TRANSPARENT, AND INCLUSIVE. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE PUBLIC WELL INFORMED WHILE ENSURING ALL DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING EDC, HAVE A VOICE IN SHAPING THE MESSAGE. 
          UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THIS, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, FOR MY QUESTION, JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION THAT HAPPENED FOR LAST WEEK WAS THAT WE HAD MET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SPOKEN ABOUT SOMETHING, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE SPOKEN INTO THE PUBLIC OR ANYTHING. 
          UM, AND SO TWO DAYS LATER AFTER WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WE'RE, IT'S OUT TO IN THE PUBLIC. 
          SO FOR ME, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AS CHAIR, THAT WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION HAS PRIVILEGES, AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THAT OUT IN PUBLIC. 
          AND SO IT WAS UNEXPECTED AND, UM, A SURPRISE TO ME TO SEE TWO DAYS LATER THAT WHAT WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT, LIKE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT INTO THE PUBLIC. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN, TWO DAYS LATER, IT'S OUT IN THE PUBLIC. 
          AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I I, AND I THINK THAT YOU DO A GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY, THE ARTICLE SOUNDED GREAT, BUT FOR ME, ON THE COMMUNICATIONS ON OUR SIDE, I WAS JUST, I'M, I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAPPENED FROM MONDAY TO WEDNESDAY. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. 
          UH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, UH, THE DIRECTION THAT I HAD OUT OF THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH. 
          UH, ONE WAS TO GATHER THE INFORMATION AND, AND PLEASE STOP ME WHERE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK AND WHAT I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON. 
          STOP. 
          I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WELL, I, I HAD A QUESTION. 
          LEGAL IS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THEIR STRATEGY AND PROCEDURE. 
          I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK THAT THIS WAS GETTING INTO ACTUAL DISCREPANCIES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? WELL, I THINK THAT THE USE OF THE MOST RECENT PRESENTATION AS AN EXAMPLE TO DISCUSS THEIR PROCEDURES IS WITHIN THE REALM. 
          BUT IF IT GETS TOO FAR OUT OF THE OFF TRACK OF THAT PORTION, THEN UM, I'LL RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TRACK. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          BEFORE YOU ANSWER, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF I CAN EXPLAIN CONTEXT. 
          SO WE AS A BOARD MET ON A MATTER THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT REQUIRED SOME, SOME GUIDANCE FROM US. 
          BUT AT THAT DISCUSSION POINT, WHATEVER THAT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR WE WERE GOING TO TAKE SOME STEPS WITH THE CORRESPONDING PARTY FOR WHICH WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MM-HMM . 
          TO GET ANSWERS SO THAT WE COULD GO WHEN APPROPRIATE PUBLIC. 
          SO WHERE DID THE DIRECTION COME? 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T COME FROM EDC THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ANYBODY ON HERE DIDN'T SPEAK. 
          UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE SPOKE. 
          AND WHERE DID THE DIRECTION COME FOR THEN A PRESS RELEASE TO HAVE HAPPENED? CAN I OFFER SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY AND CONTEXT? THE CONVERSATIONS THAT OCCURRED AT MONDAY NIGHT'S JOINT MEETING WERE PRIOR TO AN INDEPENDENT OF THE SEPARATION OF VERA AND EVO BEING PUBLIC. 
          TO THIS TIME, WE WERE ADVISED TO NOT SAY ANYTHING PUBLICLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS HEARSAY. 
          WE HAD NOTHING IN WRITING. 
          WE HAD NOTHING THAT THEY HAD PUBLICLY SHARED TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE PARTED WAYS AND THERE'S GONNA BE CHANGES TO THE HU PROJECT. 
          WE HAD NOTHING. 
          HOWEVER, THAT ALL CHANGED WHEN THE EBJ ARTICLE WENT PUBLIC FROM EVO. 
          SO THEN THAT IS WHAT CHANGED. 
          THAT IS THE CATALYST FOR RELEASING A PRESS RELEASE. 
          AND SO I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT NOTHING CHANGED FROM MONDAY NIGHT. 
          WE EXECUTED ON BOTH THINGS BECAUSE SOME OF THE DIRECTION WAS ALSO TO COLLABORATE WITH S FEDRA ON PR AND MARKETING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE DID THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WENT, OR THE A BJ ARTICLE RATHER, THAT WENT OUT FROM EVO. 
          SO, WELL, WE WEREN'T UNAWARE OF THAT. 
          SO I THOUGHT THAT MO I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          'CAUSE HE, WE WERE JUST ASKING ABOUT, I'M JUST KIND TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE PRESS RELEASE AND HOW THAT TRANSPIRED. 
          WELL, AND WE ARE, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR, UM, FOR 7.1 TO, TO DISCUSS THAT ASPECT OF IT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT I 
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WAS AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE PRESS RELEASE WAS OUT BECAUSE I DID SEE THE A BJ ARTICLE. 
          UM, SO I, I WAS FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESS RELEASE GOING OUT WHEN IT DID. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, THAT I GO ON RECORD OF SAYING THAT BEFORE IT WENT OUT, YOU KNEW BEFORE IT WENT OUT, I, I READ THE EVO PRESS RELEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          OR THE A BJ ARTICLE. 
          I READ THAT IT WAS SHARED ON THE MAYOR'S PAGE. 
          AND SO I READ THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT TO ME WAS WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING AND THE PRESS RELEASE GOING OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT I FEEL LIKE WE AS A ORGANIZATION WITH FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED, AND I THINK THAT STAFF DID THE JOB CORRECTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IN THE WEEDS ABOUT THAT AT THE MOMENT. 
          WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, LIKE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AND TIMELINESS AND GATHERING FACTS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOU WRITE VERY ELOQUENTLY. 
          SO, UM, THERE'S NO CONCERN THERE. 
          I JUST WAS WONDERING ABOUT LIKE THE AUTHORIZATION AND HOW THAT TRANSPIRED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO FOR, FOR MY DEPARTMENT, I WOULD TAKE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SIMILAR TO CITY COUNCIL, MY POSITION SPECIFICALLY TAKES AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER, NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY FROM CITY COUNCIL. 
          NOW, THE WAY THAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO FLOW IS ITS CITY COUNCIL, DIRECT CITY MANAGER, AND THEN CITY MANAGER, DIRECT STAFF. 
          ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A VERY SIMILAR RELATIONSHIP WHERE CHENEY WOULD BE IN THE CITY MANAGER POSITION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, SO MY DIRECTION COMES FROM HER. 
          OKAY. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU IF I MAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WAS THE A BJ ARTICLE, THE TRIGGER THAT CREATED THE URGENCY WITH REGARDS TO, TO ENSURING THAT THE CITY HAD A, UH, HAD A VOICE IN THAT DISCUSSION SINCE IT HAD ALREADY GONE OUT ON A BJ? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WAS THERE OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED? WAS, WAS THAT JUST THE TRIGGER? THAT WAS ONE OF THE TRIGGERS. 
          ANOTHER TRIGGER WAS, UM, IN WORKING WITH CHENEY, THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SORRY, FOR, FOR USING THE NAME, UM, WAS BEING ABLE TO GATHER THE INFORMATION AND GATHER A STATEMENT FROM VERA, WHICH, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO DO IN THE PRESS RELEASE. 
          WE, WE USE A DIRECT QUOTE, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE PRESS RELEASE MM-HMM . 
          AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE WAY IT WAS POSTED FOR EXECUTIVE WAS PROJECT VEVO BECAME A TOPIC ON SOCIAL MEDIA BEFORE THE A BJ MM-HMM . 
          ARTICLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS YES. 
          WHO WERE IN OUR CLOSED SESSION. 
          SO I'LL LAY IT THERE. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA STEP ON ANYTHING THAT WOULD CREATE LEGAL JEOPARDY FOR THIS TEAM. 
          WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          AND DAVID, LEMME SAY, I, YOU'RE IN THE CROSS AIRS, SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. 
          AND SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE FEELING AS THOUGH YOU HAVE TO BE DEFENSIVE. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS. 
          YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I, I JUST TRY TO PROVIDE THE FACTS THAT I HAVE AND, AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          IN LIGHT OF THAT, I, OR THAT PRESENTATION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL UP ITEM SEVEN ONE SINCE WE, WHILE THAT'S FRESH ON THE BRAIN? WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS, UM, I BELIEVE SEVEN THREE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING UP BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE HERE WAITING. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO SEVEN THREE, IS THAT OKAY THAT WE BRING UP TO TOPIC? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM 7.3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR JANUARY, 2025. 
          ARE YOU TRYING TO GET SYMPATHY FROM US? , YOU'RE OKAY. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING BOARD. 
          CHRISTINA BISHOP, CITY CONTROLLER. 
          I SENT OUT THE MONTHLY FINANCIALS TO YOU ON FRIDAY. 
          I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. 
          UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT TO NOTE THIS MONTH, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA MENTION. 
          UH, JANUARY, SALES TAX RECEIPTS. 
          WERE ACTUALLY DOWN OVER, UH, LAST JANUARY, SALES TAX RECEIPTS BY, UM, ABOUT ABOUT $15,000. 
          UM, I HAVE SUSPICIONS ON WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE COMPTROLLER'S MONTHLY REPORT TO, UH, MAKE SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA BE AN ONGOING TREND. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, YOUR SALES TAXES ARE STILL RIGHT IN LINE WITH YOUR BUDGET AT 33%, FOUR MONTHS THROUGH THE YEAR, AND $65,000 
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OVER LAST YEAR'S TOTALS. 
          UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION IS THAT YOU HAVE PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS COMING UP IN FEBRUARY, UH, OF JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WITH THE ALLIANCE BANK LOAN. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LARGE CASH OUTFLOW AS WELL AS AN INTEREST PAYMENT FOR YOUR 2018 BONDS FOR ABOUT, UH, 200, $240,000. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. 
          UM, UNDER, UM, CAPITAL OUTLAY, IT SAYS NEGATIVE 18 POINT 10%. 
          OH, YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE, UM, OF COURSE, UH, JORDAN FOSTER, EAST, WEST PINE ROAD AND FIRE ROAD EXPENSES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I'M NOT TERRIBLY ALARMED AT THIS. 
          UH, IT'S OVER BUDGET BECAUSE JUST THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT, UH, IT'S MOVING A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN WE ANTICIPATED WHEN WE CREATED THE BUDGET. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WILL HAVE OFFSETTING REVENUES FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT OF TERRIBLE CONCERN TO ME. 
          HOWEVER, WE CAN, UH, JUSTICE WITH MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          A ACTUALLY, IF IT'S THE SPINE ROAD RELATED PROJECT, THE, THOSE FUNDS WERE ALREADY APPROVED, SO THAT WOULD JUST BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT, THAT APPROVED FUND. 
          I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR 25TH OF JANUARY SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW ABOUT FIRST BY, OR, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN. 
          UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN. 
          AYE. 
          VICE CHAIR? MINTON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, CHRISTINA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR MOVING THAT CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          UM, AND DID YOU WANT TO, INSTEAD OF 6.1, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 7.1 RIGHT NOW? UH, THAT WAS MY PROPOSAL JUST SINCE THE PRESENTATION ON, UH, RELATED MATERIAL WAS JUST PROVIDED. 
          WELL, IT'S FRESH IN EVERYBODY'S BRAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY STAFF UPDATES OR MY DIRECTOR REPORT TAKES A WHILE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AGENDA ITEM 7.1. 
          UM, NO MENTION OF HOW TO EDC AND ANY CITY PRESS RELEASE UNLESS IT IS APPROVED BY THE EDC BOARD. 
          IF A PRESS RELEASE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED QUICKLY, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE EMAILED TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN CONFIRM OR DENY APPROVAL. 
          AND THIS IS IN LIGHT OF DISCUSSION, MORE SO THAT HAPPENS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THINGS THAT, AND PRESS RELEASES THAT GO OUT ALL THE TIME THAT I DON'T THINK IS NECESSARY THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE EVERY SINGLE ONE. 
          BUT IF A PRESS RELEASE GOES OUT BETWEEN THE TIME OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND, UM, THE NEXT, UH, NEXT, UM, MEETING AND THERE'S NEW INFORMATION OR NEW THINGS OR PRESSING MATTERS THAT, UM, IF THERE'S A PIVOT IN THE DIRECTION FOR THE CITY STAFF, THEN I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE AN IDEA ON WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, INSTEAD OF NOT KNOWING AND THEN A PRESS RELEASE. 
          SO THAT'S JUST MY WHAT I, WHY I BROUGHT THIS TO ATTENTION AND SO THAT WE ALL COULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR COMMUNICATION REASONS. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? I DO, YES. 
          IF I CAN. 
          I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD, UH, OF THE, THE POWERS OF PRESIDENT UNDER SECTION 3.2 OF YOUR BYLAWS THAT, UH, SHOWS THE PRESIDENT ALSO REFERRED TO CHAIRPERSON. 
          THE CHAIRPERSON SHALL BE THE EXECUTIVE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE CORPORATION AND SUBJECT TO THE CONTROL OF THE BOARD, THE CHAIRPERSON GENERALLY SHALL BE IN CHARGE OF THE PROPERTIES AND AFFAIRS OF THE CORPORATION. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY WHEN THIS CORPORATION CANNOT MEET AS A BOARD, THE, IF THERE HAS TO BE A DECISION, UH, YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE TYPE OF DECISION TO BE MADE, THEN IT'S, IT FALLS TO THE CHAIR. 
          AND IF THE CHAIR IS UNAVAILABLE, THE VICE CHAIR TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, UM, IF THERE 
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IS, UM, UH, FOR INSTANCE, TYPICALLY THOSE WOULD, WOULD LIKELY GO THROUGH MY OFFICE AS WELL TO DISCUSS THAT ROLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CON UH, HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED. 
          UM, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS URGENT, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OR CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AFTERWARD, UM, IN ORDER TO, UH, FURTHER DISCUSS THAT. 
          AND THEN, UH, IF THE BOARD WISHES TO RATIFY THAT OR TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WAS GONNA, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, GEORGE. 
          THE WAY THIS AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN, THIS COULD EASILY BE A WALKING QUORUM. 
          WE, I DON'T THINK, AND I'M PRETTY SURE, UM, IT'S PROHIBITED THAT EVERY BOARD MEMBER GETS A COPY AND WE FIGURE OUT VIA EMAIL ON THE BEST WAY TO PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE. 
          I THINK THAT IS WITH THE POWERS OF THE CHAIR. 
          UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SITUATION WITH IT BEING A CLOSED SESSION, UH, DISCUSSION POINT, UM, WE JUST HEARD A, A PRESENTATION THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, WHENEVER A PRESS RELEASE IS COMING OUT, THAT MEANS SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED, WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT. 
          AND SO I WOULD EXPECT, UM, AND I WOULD HOPE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WOULD EXPECT ANY SORT OF PRESS RELEASE TO GO THROUGH THE DIRECTOR OF THE EDC, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE ONE. 
          UM, AND THEN THROUGH THE CHAIR, AND THEN BE PUSHED OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WAY THE RESPONSE CAN BE, UM, OBTAINED BY THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, THE WAY, AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS WRITTEN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST ADDING MORE KINKS INTO A CHAIN THAT, UH, WE DON'T NEED. 
          AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE THAT IF THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE NEED TO GET A PRESS RELEASE OUT, THAT WOULD FALL WITH, UM, THE CHAIR AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          AND I CAN AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME WORDSMITHING THAT COULD BE HELD FOR THIS, UM, THIS LINE ITEM. 
          I JUST THINK THAT WITH THE MOST RECENT, UM, YOU KNOW, SESSION WITH EVERYTHING WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN LEARNING ABOUT IT RIGHT WHEN IT'S RELEASED IS, UM, KIND OF BACKWARDS FOR THE BOARD AS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE NOTIFIED. 
          I GOT THE EMAIL AT SIX 15 AT NIGHT AND IT WAS ALSO, UM, FOUND ON THE, OUR WEBSITE. 
          AND SO IF WE COULD GET IT OUT TO ME AND THE BOARD BEFOREHAND AND SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, LIKE COMMUNICATION, THERE'S NOT A BREAK IN COMMUNICATION. 
          AND SO, BUT I THINK AS COUNCIL HAS SAID, YOU'RE AUTHORIZED MM-HMM . 
          IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, AND WE ALL KIND OF KNEW SOMETHING NEEDED TO GET, WELL, I'M GONNA BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY ABOUT CLOSED SESSION. 
          WE WOULD'VE, I I, WE MIGHT HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS LATER ON, BUT YOU'RE BY, BY STATUTE IT APPEARS YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO ACT ON OUR BEHALF IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO GO OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH OKAY. 
          THE CHAIN OF CALLS. 
          SO THEN JUST MAKING SURE THAT, THAT I'M AWARE THAT YOU'RE IN THE LOOP. 
          THAT I'M IN THE LOOP. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I WOULD ALSO, OKAY. 
          UM, IF I MAY CHAIR THE, UM, IS IF THE CITY COUNCIL GETS COURTESY NOTICE ABOUT THEIR ITEMS, PERHAPS THIS BOARD SHOULD ALSO GET COURTESY NOTICE WHEN THEY DID. 
          THEY DID. 
          THEY DID, DID THEY? YEAH, WE DID. 
          WE GOT SIX 15 THE DAY BEFORE. 
          WELL, I DIDN'T, AND I'M NOT PART OF THE BOARD, BUT  STILL. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          I, I, UM, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME YEAH. 
          COMMUNICATION WENT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO THE EDC BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THAT, THAT WAS ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? I MEAN, IF, IF COUNCIL, IF, YOU KNOW, IF ALL COUNCIL GETS IS IS COURTESY AND THE, UH, CITY MANAGER HAS THE, YOU KNOW, IS DOING HIS JOB AND THEN WE HAVE A, A COMPETENT, UH, EXPERIENCED COMMS DEPARTMENT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, US AS A BOARD JUST THROWING MORE WALLS UP BETWEEN OUR DIRECTOR AND THE PUBLIC AND THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO GO OUT. 
          UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY A GOOD IDEA. 
          I THINK IT'S ALREADY IN OUR BYLAWS FOR CHAIR TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE. 
          SO IS THERE REALLY ANY NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, IS MY QUESTION? NO, I THINK THIS, THERE'S NO NEED TO EVEN DO A MOTIONAL NOTICE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS PRESS RELEASE WAS NOT GIVEN OUT ON WEDNESDAY, WASN'T IT GIVEN OUT WEDNESDAY? SHOULD HAVE BEEN, YEAH. 
          IT CAME OUT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SIX 15 MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN DID IT GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE AFTER COUNCIL AND BOARD WERE NOTIFIED THAT SAME NIGHT AFTER 6:15 PM BECAUSE I LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE AND IT WAS UP WHEN I WAS READING THAT EMAIL, SO MAYBE I READ THAT EMAIL A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE 
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COMMS DEPARTMENT AND STRAT OPS FOLLOWED PROCEDURE FOR THE CITY PER THEIR PRESS RELEASE PROCEDURE THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING WAS CHANT. 
          AARON WASN'T INVOLVED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING. 
          WELL, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN, LET'S JUST TAKE ME OUT OF IT. 
          I'M SAYING IF ANYTHING HAPPENS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE GIVE A DIRECTION AS A WHOLE BOARD, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS LATER A PRESS RELEASE OF ANY KIND GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION IS RELEASED AND THE BOARD'S NOT AWARE OF IT, OR THERE'S NO TOPIC OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'RE LEARNING OF, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD IN THE PAST OR WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          IT FEELS VERY, UM, LIKE DISCOMBOBULATED. 
          LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND YOU'RE GIVEN DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THEN I THINK THAT THE BOARD SHOULD GET A COURTESY EMAIL OF LIKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND WHY IT'S NEEDED RIGHT NOW. 
          BECAUSE THE LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WAS, IT WASN'T LIKE, IT IS, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, BUT IT WASN'T LIKE, WE HAVE TO DO IT TOMORROW. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR WE HAVE TO DO IT IN TWO DAYS. 
          AND SOMETHING HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES THAT I'M UNAWARE OF THAT MADE IT NEEDING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY, MORE QUICKLY THAN WHAT WE HAD PRIOR DISCUSSED. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, A BJ YOU KNOW, PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE THAT WE KNOW EVO PUT OUT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT ANYTHING THAT WE HAD CONTROL OVER. 
          AND I THINK, I MEAN, THEY'RE A PUBLIC COMPANY, THEY CAN, OR THEY'RE A PRIVATE COMPANY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER COMMUNICATION THEY WANT, BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOES OUT TO A BJ AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A POLITICIANS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THAT UP THE, THE FLAGPOLE TO CITIZENS AND THERE'S ALL THIS BANTER BACK AND FORTH AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING WHAT WE WANT AGAIN, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THEN I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US AS A BOARD FROM A FIDUCIARY STANDPOINT TO NOT COMMUNICATE BACK QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY THE FACTS. 
          BECAUSE IF SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN WITH VERA AND THEIR, MAYBE IF THEY WERE UNABLE, UNABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF SOME OF THIS, COULD THAT COME BACK THEN ON OUR BOARD? WE DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE DISAGREE. 
          I THINK, AS I STATED EARLIER, THE, THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT MADE WAS BY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ABOUT A TOPIC NOT SPECIFIED AS WE DISCUSSED IT IN CLOSED SESSION, NOT EVEN BY NAME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE A BJT OR WHATEVER, IS IT AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL MM-HMM . 
          REPORT CAME OUT LATER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I CAN SEE HOW A COLLISION OF PERFECT STORM WOULD'VE RESULTED IN SOME INSTRUCTION THAT WAS GIVEN IN EDC, BUT IT GOT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION PRIOR TO THE NEED TO THEN COMMUNICATE IT. 
          GOT IT. 
          IT, IT, IN MY OPINION, GOT OUTTA CLOSED SESSION IN ERROR. 
          AND OUR CONCERN IN CLOSED SESSION HAS TO DO WITH A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION WE HAVE WITH A DEVELOPER MM-HMM . 
          AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DISA DON'T, DON'T AGREE THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO OUR PUBLIC. 
          OUR PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AUTHORIZE THAT RELEASE PERFECT COLLISION OF COINCIDENCES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I TAKE ISSUE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT YOU'RE GETTING, I ISSUE WITH, WITH, WITH POSTS THAT WERE MADE AT A CLOSED SESSION THAT IDENTIFIED WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM . 
          TO SOME EXTENT RESPECTFULLY. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S AN ELECTED POSITION. 
          OFFICIAL'S PREROGATIVE. 
          NOT NOT OUR PREROGATIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU GET IT, WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE FUZZY. 
          WE AS A BOARD DON'T NEED TO APPROVE THE COMMUNICATION THAT IS GOING OUT FROM THE CITY, NOT EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND SAY, THIS IS CORRECT, SEND THIS OUT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THIS IS A COURTESY FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT THIS IS GOING OUT SO WE CAN SPEAK TO IT. 
          AND SO TO SAY THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE AWARE, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          THE EMAIL WENT OUT AND THE BOARD WAS MADE AWARE THAT WAY. 
          BUT TO SAY THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE OF COMMUNICATIONS, I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS, WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE A VOTE, BRIAN. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          I'M NOT SAYING RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT I, I'M HEARING, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE SAYING, I'M JUST HEARING THE LANGUAGE THAT WE AS A BOARD NEED TO BE, I THINK I WAS TRYING TO PROTECT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, LIKE ALL OF US ARE TRYING TO DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S OUR JOB. 
          THAT'S OUR FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          RIGHT. 
          CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, DIRECTOR, UH, THOMPSON, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          HOWEVER, UM, WHAT CHAPTER 22, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE JUST TO, SO TO, TO LET YOU KNOW YEAH. 
          PLEASE EDUCATE ME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE CITY IS A HOME, RURAL CITY WITH A CITY MANAGER COUNCIL 
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FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 
          YOU'RE A CHAPTER 22 BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS NONPROFIT CORPORATION. 
          AND SO THE RULES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO. 
          BUT YOU'VE RESOLVED THAT ISSUE BY PROVIDING THE PRESIDENT OR IN, IN THE PRESIDENT'S ABSENCE, THE VICE PRESIDENT, THE AUTHORITY WHEN YOU ARE NOT ON, WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN SESSION. 
          CORRECT. 
          TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND THAT RIGHT. 
          IS TO, UH, AUTHORIZE THAT OFFICER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO IS WE AS A BOARD CAN'T FORE VOTE. 
          SURE. 
          SIT THERE AND SAY, THIS IS CORRECT, SEND IT OUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE GIVE TO THE CHAIR AS WELL AS TO THE DIRECTOR TO SAY, HEY, COLLABORATE ON THIS. 
          AND LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, ONCE WE GET BACK INTO SESSION, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WENT OUT, THIS IS THE IDEA BEHIND IT, THIS IS WHY IT WENT OUT SO QUICKLY. 
          UM, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, LET ME START TO FIELD THEM, BUT SURE. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY POINT, IS THAT PERHAPS WHEN, UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY DECIDES THEY'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING OUT AND THEY COME TO, UM, CHENEY TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT OUT, MAYBE THAT'S THE TIME THAT THEY PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR. 
          THAT WAY, WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, IF THE CHAIR DOESN'T ANSWER RIGHT AWAY, THE VICE CHAIR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO DO SO. 
          UM, WOULD, WOULD HELP AT LEAST GET, GET THE OFFICERS IN, IN POSITION TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND BE ABLE TO, TO COMMENT ON, ON WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE HAPPEN, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 22 OF THE BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS COULD. 
          RIGHT. 
          ONLY THING I WOULD HESITATE IS TO BE DEPENDENT ON HEARING BACK FROM THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR. 
          THAT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY, AND THAT'S JUST ME. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY HESITATION ON THAT IS THE COMMUNICATION ISN'T DEPENDENT ON HEARING FROM THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR BECAUSE THE DIRECTOR, WE EMPOWER THE DIRECTOR TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEED FOR A DIRECTOR IF A DIRECTOR CAN'T PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE. 
          WELL, UH, I, I LOVE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A NEW TOPIC, RIGHT. 
          SO FOR ME ANYWAYS, LIKE I'VE NEVER HAD WHERE IT, AT LEAST FROM MY TIME HERE WHERE WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN SOMETHING HAD TO GET OUT, LIKE A PRESS RELEASE HAD TO GET OUT BECAUSE OF TIMELINESS. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT AT THE TIME I HAD NO IDEA. 
          SO LOOKING BACK AND LOOKING AT THIS, LIKE MAYBE WE CAN REWORD IT TO WHERE I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME MORE COMMUNICATION IS REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. 
          AND, AND BETWEEN A EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THIS THING, AND THEN TWO DAYS LATER I'M, I'M READING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE POSTING TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE AND SETTING IT OUT THERE. 
          SO TO BRIDGE THAT GAP SOMEHOW, AND ME NOT HAVING TO READ IT AS IN A PRESS RELEASE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD WORD SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE IT HAP BEFORE IT GETS OUT THERE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND I'M NOT SAYING LIKE, HEY, LET'S ALL VOTE ON IT. 
          CLEARLY THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA THAT, THAT WE ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON A PRESS RELEASE. 
          BUT ALSO, CAN WE NOT BRIDGE THE GAP OF COMMUNICATIONS THAT I EVEN KNOW THAT, THAT WE NEED TO DO A PRESS RELEASE. 
          BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, I DON'T FOLLOW FACEBOOK STUFF ALL THE TIME. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE MY JOB IS VERY DEMANDING AND I'M LIKE FLYING ALL DAY AND LIKE I HAVE GAPS AND STUFF. 
          SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT AFFECT OUR BOARD ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT I, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA BE THE LIKE DECIDING FACTOR AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND I WANNA TRUST THAT, YOU KNOW, CHENEY'S, UM, WATCHING THINGS AND AWARE OF THINGS MORE SO THAN I AM. 
          BUT ALSO HOW CAN WE BRIDGE THAT COMMUNICATION WHERE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT CHENEY FEELS THAT WE NEED TO GO DO, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO BE ON TOP OF SOMETHING AND ADDRESS AN ISSUE OR WHATEVER, THAT, THAT'S ALSO COMMUNICATED TO ALL OF US. 
          WE, WE KNOW TOO. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST SO WHAT, YEAH, JUST A QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT WAS THE EMAIL? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE EMAIL SOLVED THAT, THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT WELL THE DIRECTION IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS TO GET WITH, I THOUGHT IT WAS TO DRAFT A LETTER TO PUSH BACK TO TRY AND GET MORE, UH, CLARIFI LIKE TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN AT LEAST BRING VO IN AND TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS. 
          BUT CAN WE, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW? ISN'T THIS KIND OF GOING INTO WHAT WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH. 
          I WAS ABOUT TO, TO COMMENT THAT ONCE, ONCE WE GET INTO THE UNDERLYING REASONS THAT IT'S REALLY KIND OF DISCUSSED AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT STILL SHOULD BE EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. 
          SO THEN LET'S NOT, I, I'M, LET'S TAKE THAT OFF. 
          LET'S TAKE OFF 7.1 AS WRITTEN. 
          THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT, UM, MY INTENT, MY INTENT IS JUST TO 
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BRING MORE, UM, TO BRIDGE THE GAP WITH COMMUNICATION. 
          AND SO CAN YOU HOW THAT WELL, I REQUEST, I I THINK THAT, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN THAT NOW THAT, AND JUST 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WERE FULLY AWARE THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZATION. 
          UH, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO US. 
          YOU TALK TO CHENEY, Y'ALL WORK IT OUT AND THEN PUSH IT OUT AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT LATER. 
          SO WE WE'RE GIVING YOU THAT AUTHORIZATION MOVING FORWARD THAT AND CHENEY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO HER JOB TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO GO THERE AND WHATNOT. 
          THIS WAS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THINGS WERE DONE ON MONDAY AND THINGS WERE POSTED ON TUESDAY. 
          AND THEN BY WEDNESDAY I DIDN'T FEEL PERSONALLY THAT WE COULD WAIT TILL TONIGHT MM-HMM . 
          TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHEN WE WERE GONNA PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE. 
          YEP. 
          I AGREE. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA CONTINUE, UM, TO GET, GET LEGS AND KEEP GOING. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD IS THAT WE COME BACK WITH A, A RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH A VERY SIMPLE POLICY THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GONNA GO DOWN THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR WILL BE CONTACTED SO MUCH TIME WILL PASS. 
          IF YOU DON'T GET HEAR FROM THE THEM, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU MOVE FORWARD AND DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT IT CLARIFIED AND THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THAT. 
          SO THEN THAT DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY IS, IS IN WRITING. 
          WELL, THIS ISN'T POSTED FOR ACTION. 
          SO CAN, SO YEAH. 
          DO WE NEED TO DO THAT AT THE END OF MEETING FUTURE GENDER? WELL, IT WAS JUST A DIRECTION TO ME, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IS ALL. 
          SO WE DON'T, I DON'T NEED ACTION. 
          JUST IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          YEAH, I, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          I THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE TO WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION IN OUR BYLAWS. 
          UM, WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION WITHIN THE WAY CITY STAFF RUNS. 
          I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS THINK WE NEED A RESOLUTION TO DON'T? HE WOULD. 
          WELL THAT DIDN'T, THAT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT. 
          YEAH. 
          BE I I'M WITH HIM 'CAUSE JUST IT, IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE ALREADY THE POLICY THAT WE SHOULD BOTH BE NOTIFIED BEFORE A PRESS RELEASE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO MAYBE, WELL WE WERE ALL NOTIFIED. 
          WE JUST, THERE JUST, THERE WAS NO WAITING PERIOD. 
          SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WERE ALL NOTIFIED BEFORE IT WENT OUT. 
          WELL THAT'S AS COURTESY, THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING IN THE, HOLD ON. 
          NO, I, HOLD ON. 
          CAN I JUST CLARIFY, THE PRESS RELEASE WAS FROM THE CITY OF HUDU. 
          IT IS NOT FROM THE HU EDC. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A RESOLUTION OR MAKE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS ON WHO NEEDS TO APPROVE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE IT TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE IT PUTS ME IN A VERY PRECARIOUS SITUATION. 
          IF THE CITY IS TRYING TO RELEASE A PRESS RELEASE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A PROJECT THAT THE CORPORATION IS INVOLVED IN, I THAT PUTS ME, I'M LOSE LOSE BECAUSE I CAN'T HOLD THAT UP ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. 
          BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO, OR THE CORPORATION WOULD LIKE TO AUTHORIZE A PRESS RELEASE, OR IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE MENTIONED AS IN THIS ONE, THE EDC WAS INCLUDED IN A COMMENT. 
          SO PERHAPS IF IT IS CITY ONLY AND THEY REFER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOT THE CORPORATION, THEN THAT'S THE SAFE ZONE AND THEY CAN PROCEED ACCORDINGLY. 
          HOWEVER, IF THEY REFER TO THE CORPORATION OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMING FROM THE CORPORATION, THEN THAT FOLLOWS THE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT DISTINCTION 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE GETTING THINGS CONFUSED OR, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD DO, IS JUST CLARIFY THAT AS WELL AS CLARIFY THE AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE BAR OR WITHOUT THE CHAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          AND I THINK IT ALSO JUST HELPS WITH TRANSPARENCY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          SO DO WE WANNA GO BACK TO ECONOMIC DIRECTOR'S REPORT? OH LORD, Y'ALL WANNA HEAR ME TALK A BUNCH. 
          6.1 STAFF WILL PROVIDE UPDATES ON CRITICAL PROJECTS INCLUDING THE MEGASITE SPINE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, HIGHWAY 79 AND COUNTRY ROAD 1 32 INTERSECTION PROJECT WILLIAMSON COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PAR OR PARTNERSHIP INCENTIVE SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION EVENT RECAPS AND UPCOMING EVENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE SOME PHOTOS FOR Y'ALL THIS TIME. 
          SO ONE OF THE UPDATES IS ON THE SPINE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND VISIT PA THE SITE ON THE 28TH. 
          GOD, IT ALWAYS DOES THAT. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME PHOTOS WITH Y'ALL. 
          UM, THE ENTRANCE IS CUT, THERE'S CURB, THERE'S CEMENT, LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE A REAL ENTRANCE TO A MAIN ROAD. 
          UM, IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO SHARE SOME, SOME CURRENT PHOTOS WITH Y'ALL. 
          UH, AND ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS IF YOU, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO OUT TO THE SITE, JORDAN FOSTER'S ALWAYS HAPPY TO SHOW OFF THEIR WORK. 
          THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD FOR MONTHS UPON MONTHS AND HAVE BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNER AS WE'VE NAVIGATED SEVERAL CHANGES TO THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. 
          UM, BUT IT, IT IS MIND BLOWING THE EXPANSE OF THIS PROJECT. 
          AND 
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TO SEE IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT'S EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 AND OH, THERE'S THE SPINE ROAD. 
          NO, NOT EVEN CLOSE. 
          THIS THING IS INCREDIBLE. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS, BUT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY, UM, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU REAL QUICK? YEAH. 
          IS ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN, IN WALKING THE PROJECT? YES, I'D LOVE TO. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LOVE TO TOO. 
          SO IF YOU COULD SPEARHEAD THAT, UM, YEAH. 
          AND THEN SEND OUT DATES POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE. 
          SEE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR EVERYONE. 
          I'D LOVE TO GO TO YEAH, IT WAS, IT'S IMPRESS IT TAKES A WHILE. 
          'CAUSE THEY TAKE YOU AROUND THE WHOLE SITE AND IT'S, IT'S A ROUGH CONSTRUCTION SITE, SO IT'S REAL BUMPY. 
          SO YOU NEED TO PLAN PROBABLY A FULL HOUR FOR IT. 
          THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS EITHER GO IN LESS NUMBERS THAN FOUR EACH . 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OR, BUT IF, IF MORE THAN FOUR OF YOU GO, THEN WE CAN DO A NOTICE OF TRYING TO GET FOUR OF THESE FOLKS TOGETHER OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS. 
          COME ON GEORGE. 
          . 
          ANYWAY, I, THERE WAY I GOT MY CYA IS THERE YOU GO. 
          ON THE RECORD. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS KIND OF STARTING OFF ON THE ROAD AND IT JUST GOES AND GOES AND GOES. 
          Y'ALL LIKE IT'S CUT FOR AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE. 
          UM, TOOK A PICTURE OF, UM, ONE OF THE BOX CULVERTS INSTALL INSTALLED, AND THEN THAT THIRD PICTURE THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROUND KIND OF TOWARDS THE MIDDLE, THAT IS THE ROW OF BOX CULVERTS THAT WAS INSTALLED, UM, AS PART OF THE DRAINAGE REDESIGN. 
          AND SO THEY, THOSE ARE IN, AND THEN ALL THE BOX CULVERTS THERE ON THE RIGHT THAT ARE STILL, UH, WELL THEY'RE PROBABLY IN NOW, BUT AT THAT TIME WERE, WERE READY TO BE PUT IN. 
          AND THOSE WERE THE BIG EXPENSES, THE BIG LONG LEAD ITEMS. SO REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE IN THE GROUND. 
          UM, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT THERE IS, UH, ONE OF THE DRAINAGE DITCHES. 
          I THINK Y'ALL WILL BE, UH, ASTOUNDED AT HOW DEEP SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE DITCHES ARE. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT IN DESIGN, WE'RE LIKE, OH, 15 FOOT DRAINAGE DITCH. 
          AND YOU THINK, OH, OKAY. 
          NO, WHEN YOU GO SEE IT, IT IS CAVERNOUS . 
          IT'S HUGE. 
          UM, AND THE MIDDLE PICTURE, THERE IS A SHOT OF THE DETENTION POND, UM, THAT IS COMPLETED EFFECTIVELY, UH, JUST WAITING FOR VEGETATION TO GROW BACK. 
          AND THEN THE LAST PICTURE THERE ON THE RIGHT IS THE OUTFALL, UH, WHERE IT'S HEADED KIND OF OVER BY 33 49 BACK AGAIN. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE PHOTOS WITH Y'ALL SO YOU CAN SEE SOME PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF YOUR PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. 
          UH, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO, UM, ARRANGE THOSE SITE VISITS FOR Y'ALL. 
          SO ALL THOSE MILLION DOLLAR CHECKS WE'RE SIGNING ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE. 
          IT, IT'S A VERY ACTIVE SITE. 
          THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE OUT THERE WORKING, CUTTING STUFF HERE, DIGGING STUFF THERE, PUTTING STUFF IN THE GROUND ELSEWHERE. 
          IT'S VERY, VERY ACTIVE. 
          SO IT WAS REALLY FUN TO SEE. 
          SO I DEFINITELY EXCITED FOR Y'ALL TO GO SEE IT. 
          UH, HIGHWAY 79 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 32 INTERSECTION PROJECT THAT IS PROCEEDING WE HEARD FROM, UH, DAVID WITH, UH, MIDWAY EARLIER. 
          THAT IS A CRITICAL INTERSECTION. 
          UM, STAFF IS TREATING IT AS SUCH AND PUSHING FOR WEEKLY UPDATES ON THAT. 
          SO, UM, OUR REGULAR MEETINGS WITH GARVER HAVE STALLED, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET THOSE RESTARTED SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT URGENCY AND MOMENTUM. 
          UM, AND JUST WANNA REITERATE MIDWAYS, UM, STATEMENTS EARLIER, THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THAT PROJECT, THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THEIR SITE PLANNING LIKE THEY SHARED, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING COMMITMENTS FROM THOSE RETAILERS, THOSE RETAILERS ARE NOT GONNA COMMIT WITHOUT FIRM DESIGN PLANS OR A COMMITMENT TO THOSE DESIGN PLANS. 
          UM, SO THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THAT CRITICAL INTERSECTION FOR THEIR PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? JAMIE IS, IS THE GEORGETOWN ENGINEER WITH TDOT INVOLVED OR IS IT, IS IT AUSTIN? IS IT BA IS IT THE AUSTIN ENGINEER? UH, I BELIEVE IT'S THEIR GEORGETOWN OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY WHO WE'VE MET WITH ON OTHER PROJECTS. 
          AND I WANNA SAY IT'S THE SAME TEAM SINCE IT'S THAT'VE MET BEFORE US. 
          I WASN'T SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WILLIAMSON COUNTY, EDP, UM, WE HOSTED THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING, SO THAT WAS FUN TO HAVE THEM HERE IN HU AND GOT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE COOL THINGS GOING ON OUT HERE. 
          AND THEY GOT TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES SOME OF THE CO-OP DEVELOPMENT GOING ON. 
          UM, THERE IS A DELEGATION IN SOUTH KOREA RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE FOR SEMICON. 
          UH, THERE'S ANOTHER TRIP PLANNED FOR JUNE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IN THE FALL OR SOMETIME BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          UH, I JUST WENT TODAY AND GOT A PASSPORT ORDERED. 
          SO, UM, THERE WERE SOME DOCUMENTATION CHALLENGES WITH THAT. 
          IF ANYONE'S GOTTEN A PASSPORT RECENTLY, YOU CAN PROBABLY RELATE. 
          UM, SO I'M EXCITED TO GET THAT TRIP ON THE BOOKS AS SOON AS MY PASSPORT IS IN HAND. 
          SO, UH, I'LL KEEP YOU GUYS POSTED ON THAT. 
          UM, INCENTIVE SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          WE HAVE CIVIC SERVE. 
          UM, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES. 
          THE TS THREE APPLICATION IS IN THE FINAL STAGES AND WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH THAT NEXT WEEK, UM, BECAUSE WE 
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DO HAVE, UH, A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WANTING TO SUBMIT A PROJECT AND THEN THE INFORMATION WE GET BACK FROM Y'ALL ON THE ITEM LATER IN THE AGENDA ON THE INCENTIVE APPLICATION FORM, THAT'LL HELP US PROGRESS THAT ASPECT AS WELL. 
          AND SO WE WILL, UH, BASED ON THE, THE FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL, IF WE FEEL CONFIDENT MOVING FORWARD, THEN WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT ON THE SITE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, THAT WILL ALSO REQUIRE COUNCIL REVIEW BECAUSE THAT INCENTIVE APPLICATION IS FOR ALL THREE S AND SOME OF THOSE DON'T, UH, INCLUDE THE BOARD, THE CORPORATION. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SINGLE FORM FOR ALL OF THAT. 
          THAT WAY PEOPLE AREN'T TRYING TO FILL OUT FIVE DIFFERENT FORMS. AND WHAT PRO, UM, SOFTWARE PROGRAM IS THAT? IT'S CALLED CIVIC SERVE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S PART OF THE CIVIC UMBRELLA OF, UM, PLATFORMS THAT WE USE AT THE CITY. 
          SO WE HAVE CIVIC PLUS AND CIVIC CLERK THAT WE USE FOR, UM, OUR CITY WEBSITE AND OUR AGENDA SOFTWARE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE CIVIC REC THAT WE USE FOR OUR PARKS AND REC, UM, CAMP REGISTRATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. 
          SO, UH, IT PLAYS NICELY. 
          YOU USED CIVIC GOV FOR P PPIS? WHAT'S THAT? CIVIC GOV FOR THE, I DON'T THINK WE DID THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          UM, I FORGET WHAT, WHAT OTHER SOFTWARE WE USED. 
          14 . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE BIG ONE EVENT RECAPS SO MUCH HAPPENING SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. 
          SO I WENT TO THE STEEL BEAM SIGNING AT THE NEW LEE MARTINEZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON JANUARY 17TH. 
          IT WAS VERY COLD, BUT WE DID IT AND MARTINEZ'S FAMILY SHOWED UP IN, IN GREAT NUMBERS, SO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE. 
          YEAH, IT WAS GOOD. 
          UM, I ALSO WENT TO CHEWY'S GRAND OPENING VIP NIGHT ON JANUARY 20TH. 
          UM, THEN JANUARY 25TH WE HAD OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PLANNING SESSION. 
          SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ, SECRETARY OWENS AND TREASURER GIDEON FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE. 
          KELLY, I CANNOT REMEMBER WHICH OF THE SATURDAY STUFF. 
          HAVE YOU ATTENDED THE SA SOME OF THE SATURDAY STUFF ALSO? YOU KNOW, I DID NOT, THIS TIME I HAVE BEFORE. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'VE JUST SEEN YOU SO MUCH OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS BEEN AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I THINK I HAD, I'VE HAD A LOT OF NON-PROFIT VOLUNTEER STUFF THAT I'VE, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          I DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE YOU OUT, BUT I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN MY NOTES. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN, UH, THE SPINE ROAD VISIT HAPPENED ON THE 28TH AND THEN WE HAD OUR CIP WORKSHOP WITH CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          AND THANKS AGAIN GO TO SECRETARY OWENS AND BOARD MEMBER GIDEON FOR ATTENDING THAT TO REPRESENT THE BOARD. 
          IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT AND PRESENCE FROM THIS CORPORATION. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAD, THAT WAS A DOUBLE HEADER. 
          WE HAD THE CHAMBER GALA THAT NIGHT ALSO. 
          UM, SO WE WERE REALLY PROUD TO HOST A FULL TABLE. 
          WE HAD A BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ THERE, BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AND HIS LOVELY WIFE WERE THERE AS WELL. 
          WE ALSO HOSTED THE TSTC WORKFORCE DIRECTOR, CORINA ZEPEDA, UM, AND ALSO THE DYNAMIC DUO BEHIND HAPPY PANINI, UH, CHRIS AND GINA AUDITORY, AND THEN TWO STAFF MEMBERS FROM THE EDC FOR THE ED TEAM. 
          UH, THEN TST EXPANSION GROUNDBREAKING JUST HAPPENED, UH, LAST WEEK ON THE FIFTH, SO THAT'S EXCITING. 
          UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE TEMPLE COLLEGES EXPANDING THEIR U CHECK LOCATION AS WELL. 
          SO AS SOON AS THOSE DETAILS ARE AVAILABLE, I'M SURE THAT'LL BE PUBLICIZED. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY THIS PAST SATURDAY WE HAD OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, NOT A LOT CAME OUT OF THAT AS FAR AS THINGS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING OF THIS CORPORATION. 
          I THINK, UM, THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY. 
          SO ONCE THOSE ARE MORE FINELY DEFINED, UH, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE COMING UP WITH, HERE'S WHERE COUNCIL IS. 
          UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ALIGN, UH, FOR EASE OF IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN UPCOMING EVENTS. 
          SO CHAMBER LUNCHEON IS TOMORROW, POWER BREAKFAST IS ON THURSDAY. 
          UH, ALSO THIS FRIDAY THERE'S COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS RESOURCE FAIR. 
          SO IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE NONPROFITS IN HURO AND THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT SERVE HURO, UH, THAT'LL BE AT THE GIN BUILDING THIS FRIDAY EVENING. 
          ALL THE DETAILS ARE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO BEEN SHARING ON THEIR SOCIALS, UM, TEXAS STATE ROUND ROCK MASTER PLAN. 
          OPEN HOUSE IS ON THE 19TH OVER HERE AT THEIR ROUND ROCK CAMPUS. 
          UH, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THAT, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN SEND YOU THE CALENDAR INVITE. 
          BUT I WILL BE ATTENDING, UH, THEN OUR BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION PROGRAM. 
          BIZ THRIVE HAS THEIR FIRST EVENT OF 2025 THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 4TH, SIX TO SEVEN 30 HERE IN, UH, CITY HALL. 
          UM, AND THEN HU DO ISD IS ALSO HOSTING, IS THIS THEIR THIRD ANNUAL WOMEN'S CONFERENCE? YES, IT IS THIRD. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THIRD ANNUAL WOMEN'S CONFERENCE ON MARCH 5TH. 
          I MAY BE PRESENTING, I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW. 
          UH, BUT THEY ARE TAKING, UH, INTERESTED PARTIES. 
          ANY LADIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PRESENTING, UH, AT THAT CONFERENCE, 
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I CAN SHARE THE CONTACT INFORMATION WITH YOU. 
          AND I, I WAS A PRESENTER ON EMERGENCY OPERATIONS ONE YEAR, BUT IT'S VERY GOOD. 
          AND I THINK THE, THE LADIES THAT ATTENDED, THERE'S TOPICS OF, OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS. 
          I PRESENTED THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY DID IT. 
          JANNEY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MARCH DATE THAT THE YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT ON MY CALENDAR. 
          MARCH 4TH, SIX TO SEVEN 30 CITY HALL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN IT'S SIX TO SEVEN 30 MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN WHAT WAS THE, THE, THE NEXT DATE THOUGH LADIES DATE? THE ISD WOMEN'S CONFERENCE IS ON THE FIFTH, SO THE VERY NEXT DAY. 
          AND THAT, WHAT'S THE TIME ON THAT ONE? UM, IT'S IN THE EVENING. 
          I'LL HAVE TO LOOK. 
          I JUST GOT COMMUNICATION ABOUT IT AS EARLY AS FIVE 30 AND GOES TO LIKE 7 38. 
          I HAVE A FUNDRAISER THAT NIGHT. 
          IT'S COME AND GO. 
          I MEAN, IS IT GO, THERE'S SESSIONS, THERE'S A GENERAL SESSION AND THEN THERE'S SESSIONS. 
          YEAH, THERE'S BREAKOUT. 
          HOW DID SIGN UP FOR THAT? IS IT LIKE A ON THE ISD WEBSITE? SO I GOT AN EMAIL AND IT SAID, HEY, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED, SO I CAN FORWARD THAT TO YOU. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED. 
          COOL. 
          I INTERESTED. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH THING. 
          UH, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, IT IS BUDGET SEASON FOR THE CITY IN CASE THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION ABOUT THAT. 
          SO BUDGET WORKSHOPS, UH, STARTING ON SATURDAYS, I THINK START IN MARCH. 
          SO ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          IF YOU GO TO THEIR EVENTS CALENDAR AND JUST GO TO MARCH AND, AND IT'S UNDER THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND EVENTS. 
          SO THE FIRST PART IS KIND OF ALL LIKE THE MAR FARMER'S MARKETS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT RELATE TO CITY BUSINESS THAT ARE KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN AND IT STARTS THE CALENDAR OVER. 
          SO, UH, I LEARNED THAT TODAY, SO I I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT ON THERE, BUT IT IS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL PUBLICLY POSTED FOR YOU. 
          UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          AWESOME. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU, CHANEY. 
          OKAY, SO MOVING ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM 7.2, UH, CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY LISTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU TABLE THAT ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE TABLING ITEM 7.2. 
          GEORGE. 
          I THINK THIS WAS SEPARATE ITEMS. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LISTED TWICE. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS ABOUT, FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION IS SPECIFIC TO A CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          THIS IS MORE GENERAL KNOWLEDGE FOR THE BOARD. 
          WELL, THE ITEM IS WRITTEN AS VIOLATIONS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION PROTECTIONS AND POSSIBLE ASSOCIATED LITIGATION. 
          NO, ASSOCIATED. 
          SO THAT WOULD CALL, I'M SORRY, THE AGENDA ITEM IS NO, I'M, I'M READING OUTTA THE EXEC. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO IT'S BROAD ENOUGH TO ENCOMPASS THE, UM, OPEN MEETING, ZACH EXECUTIVE SESSION PROTECTIONS. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE OH SEVEN ONE IS ONE OF THOSE PROTECTIONS. 
          SO WE COULD TAKE BOTH OF THEM. 
          SO YEAH, SO I'M, I'M JUST CONSOLIDATING THEM IN THE ONE THAT'S BROADEST, WHICH IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          YEAH. 
          THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE THIS IN PUBLIC THOUGH, WAS THE PURPOSE SEVEN POINT 0.2, THAT'S UP, THAT'S UP TO THE CITY CA OR THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS. 
          IT IS JUST THAT, UM, I MEAN, I WOULD BE LIMITED SINCE IT'S HIS LEGAL BESIDE IT, UM, TO, UM, PROVIDE LIKE EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION ONLY I, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET INTO SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT  NO. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND I, I CONSULTED WITH MATTHEW ON THAT AHEAD OF TIME, SO HE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTOOD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO GO AHEAD AND CALL SEVEN TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          7.2 DISCUSSED TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND EXECUTIVE SESSION PROTECTIONS INCLUDING REPORTING VIOLATIONS AND ASSOCIATED CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATIONS. 
          IS THERE A PARTICULAR COMMENT OR DO YOU JUST WANT ME TO GENERALIZE IT? WELL, NO, I, I DIDN'T PREP THIS ITEM WITH YOU, GEORGE, SO I, I KNOW YOU'RE FEELING A LITTLE BIT OFF GUARD, BUT I DID DISCUSS IT WITH SURE. 
          IT'S MR. WESTIN GENERAL, WHAT YOU TALKED. 
          YEAH, SO, UM, THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION, I'M SORRY, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS A PROVISION WHICH IS TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE AND, UH, DICTATE WITH REGARDS TO A LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH YOU CAN, UH, PARTICIPATE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE THE PUBLIC CANNOT SEE IT. 
          AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE DISCUSSION THAT IT SHOULD BE KEPT FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          UH, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT ITSELF DOES NOT, I MEAN, I KEEP ON SAYING THAT, I'M SORRY, TOMA. 
          THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ITSELF DOES NOT, UM, CREATE ANY PROTECTION, SO TO SPEAK, WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE SET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND VERSUS THOSE COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WHAT CREATES THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE OTHER LAWS THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE TO THE, TO THE DISCUSSION. 
          SAY FOR INSTANCE, THAT, UM, YOU 
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HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT TAKES YOU INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER OH SEVEN FOUR, THE PERSONNEL ITEM TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, TO EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD THAT THEY HAVE SOME MATERIAL ILLNESS OF WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE FIGHTING. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE TEMPORARILY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE. 
          WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S PHI THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH INFORMATION THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND SO THE BOARD WOULD HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION NOT TO DISCLOSE THAT MEDICAL CONDITION OF YOUR EMPLOYEE OR YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, UM, OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          NOT BECAUSE YOU HAD IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS. 
          UM, AS LIKEWISE AND UNDER OH SEVEN ONE, UH, YOU ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR ATTORNEY, UH, THAT IS UNDER THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED, UH, UH, CONFIDENTIALITY REQUIREMENT. 
          AND SO ANY TIME YOU'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, WHERE YOU'RE HAVING, UH, EITHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LAW OR THAT YOU'RE BEING PROVIDED WITH A LEGAL ANALYSIS AS TO THE LAW, UM, THOSE ARE ALSO CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE OTHERWISE A MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD TO APPROVE THE WAIVER OF THE BOARD'S EXECUTIVE OR, UH, CONFIDENTIALITY RULE FOR THAT TO BE DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC. 
          UH, SO THE VIOLATIONS FOR THE VIOLATION OF THE, UM, OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL DEPEND ON WHAT RULE IS APPLICABLE TO THE INFORMATION. 
          UM, ON THAT. 
          UH, IF IT'S PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION, FOR INSTANCE, THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SEEK A DECLARATION, UH, BUT FROM A COURT THAT SAID THAT THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE, THEN IF THERE WERE DAMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, MENTAL ANGUISH ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OR WHATEVER, THOSE WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL TYPES OF, OF DAMAGES IN THAT, IN THAT SITUATION. 
          UM, BUT ALSO THEY WOULD ORDER THE BOARD NOT TO RELEASE THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, THE, UM, IF THERE'S, UH, OR A RELEASE OF, UH, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION, UH, SIMILARLY THE BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ITS CONFIDENTIALITY AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL WHO, UM, WHO SPOKE OUT. 
          UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT DO THAT. 
          ONE IS TO RECOMMEND THAT THAT PERSON BE REMOVED UNDER YOUR EXISTING BYLAWS. 
          SECONDLY, IS TO SEEK A COURT ORDER WITH REGARDS TO, UM, REQUIRING THAT LANGUAGE TO BE CO OR TO BE MAINTAINED AND BE, UH, BASICALLY A GAG OR, OR A GAG ORDER, UH, IN, IN, UH, ESSENCE. 
          UH, SO THAT WHAT THEY WOULD NOT SPEAK ABOUT THOSE PRIVATE ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS AGAIN. 
          UM, ULTIMATELY, IF, IF THERE IS A, A DISCUSSION THAT GOES BEYOND THE, UM, THE SCOPE OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AS IT'S WRITTEN, UH, THAT PARTICIPATION IN THAT ILLEGAL MEETING WOULD BE A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR UNDER TEXAS PENAL CODE. 
          AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE UP TO SIX MONTHS IN JAIL AND UP TO A $2,000 FINE FOR ANYONE WHO IS CONVICTED OF THAT OFFENSE. 
          UM, THOSE ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY US OR BY YOUR, YOUR ATTORNEY. 
          THEY'RE CONTROLLED BY THE PROSECUTORIAL AUTHORITY IN THE AREA THAT YOU LIVE. 
          SO WHAT WOULD THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY COUNTY ATTORNEY DO? OR WHAT WOULD THE WILLIAMS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY DO? UM, WHEN I TEACH THIS IN, IN LIKE TML PROGRAMS, I SAY, HOW CRAZY IS YOUR DA? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF IF THEY'RE OUT TO GET YOU, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A POLITICAL PROBLEM. 
          IF YOU DON'T, THEN USUALLY AS LONG AS THERE'S NO PECUNIARY GAIN BY THE VIOLATION, UM, MOST JURISDICTIONS HAVE NOT, UM, TAKEN ACTION ON VIOLATIONS IN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          AND SO THERE'S, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD SUMMARY. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JEANNIE? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPORTING VIOLATIONS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU FEEL THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION PRIVILEGE HAS BEEN VIOLATED, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO REPORT THAT OR QUESTION THAT? YEAH. 
          IF, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING WHETHER THERE IS AN OPEN MEETINGS VIOLATION, UM, YOU SHOULD SEND THAT TO MY OFFICE, AND THEN WE WOULD EVALUATE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING WITH THE LAW THAT APPLIES TO IT, AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH A LEGAL OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION. 
          UM, IF, UM, UH, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE, AND THE REASON WHY I SAY BRING IT TO ME FIRST, IS THAT UNDER YOUR, UM, DUTY OF GOOD FAITH TO, TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ORGANIZATION, IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ORGANIZATION TO PUBLICIZE THAT THERE WAS SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD VIOLATING CRIMINAL OFFENSE. 
          UM, SO WE TRIED TO, 
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UM, MY OBLIGATION THERE UNDER, UH, 1.13 OF THE TEXAS RULES OF DISCIPLINARY CONDUCT WOULD REQUIRE ME TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. 
          AND, UM, AS LONG AS THE BOARD TOOK, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NECESSARY ACTION THERE WAS TO REMEDY THE ISSUE, THEN I'M, I'M ALLEVIATED, UM, IF I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE, THAT LANGUAGE, THAT THAT ISSUE IS NOT COVERED UNDER THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. 
          'CAUSE IF I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME, I, I DON'T HAVE AN, UH, I CAN REPORT THAT CRIME. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, TO COMMIT OFFENSES ON THE BOARD, THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE BOARD'S BEST INTEREST TO GET YOU OFF THE BOARD . 
          UM, SO, UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S THE LIMITED SITUATION THAT TYPICALLY OCCURS, UM, WHERE THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IS LOST. 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING, YOU'VE, YOU'VE TOLD ME YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TELL ME THAT, DON'T TELL ME THAT, BUT IF YOU DO TELL ME THAT, THEN IT'S NOT PRIVILEGED YOU. 
          I THINK THE OTHER, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, THE OTHER SCENARIO THAT I, UH, WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE IS CLEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER ABOUT A WALKING QUORUM AND, UM, NOT TALKING TO CERTAIN, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE ABOUT CERTAIN TOPICS, ET CETERA. 
          SO I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR YEP. 
          ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, SO IN 2001, UM, IN A CASE CALLED ESPERANZA VERSUS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS ON A DUE PROCESS ISSUE. 
          THE COURT EVALUATED THE, UH, TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND FOUND IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WAS HAVING COUNCIL MEMBERS COME IN ONE BY ONE TO SIGN OFF ON A ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO THE, UH, AN AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER ONE WOULD COME IN, SIGN OFF, COUNCIL MEMBER TWO WOULD COME IN, SIGN OFF, COUNCIL MEMBER THREE COMES IN. 
          BUT THEN COUNCIL MEMBER FOUR COMES IN, WHAT DOES COUNCIL MEMBER FOUR KNOW THAT THOSE OTHER THREE JUST APPROVED IT? BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE THE SIGNATURES ON THE SAME PIECE OF PAPER. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNICATION OCCURS BETWEEN A QUORUM OF THE GOVERNING BODY AND BECOMES A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. 
          THAT'S A WALKING QUORUM. 
          UM, THE, THERE WAS A, A PROHIBITION UNDER THE LAW UNTIL 2019 WHEN A, UH, MAYOR FROM THE, UH, WOODLANDS AREA, UM, WAS PROSECUTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE TEXAS COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS FOR A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. 
          AND THAT VERSION OF THE ACT WAS FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONALLY VAGUE BY THE TEXAS COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS. 
          AND SO THAT CASE WAS DISMISSED. 
          SO THE, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE BROUGHT IN A NEW LAW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN THE OLD LAW THAT WAS FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 
          AND THAT ONE IS NOW CALLED THE SERIES OF COMMUNICATIONS, UH, PROVISION IN THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. 
          WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN A COMMUNICATION THAT IS THEN GOING TO BE SHARED WITH OTHERS OUTSIDE OF A QUORUM IN NUMBERS THAT CONSTITUTE A QUORUM OR MORE, THAT THAT ULTIMATELY BECOMES A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN NEEDS ACT. 
          SO WHAT, UM, I'VE GENERALLY, UH, RECOMMENDED IS THAT IF, IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION BY AND BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBER OR BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO KEEP BLINDERS ON. 
          KEEP YOUR DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHER PERSON ONLY. 
          DON'T SHARE THAT, OH, I TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND BRIAN THINKS THIS BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE BECOME THE BATON IN THE RELAY RACE OF OPEN MEETINGS VIOLATIONS. 
          OKAY? UM, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'VE NOT SHARED WHAT ANYBODY ELSE HAS TOLD YOU AND THEY DON'T SHARE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE TOLD THEM, UM, THEN YOU'VE NOT HAD THAT DELIBERATION BETWEEN, BETWEEN ONE OR MORE PEOPLE, UM, TO, TO C COMMIT A VIOLATION. 
          UNLESS, ONCE YOU GET TO THE, TO THIS MEETING, THEN YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION HERE IN THE MEETING WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU DISCUSSED OVER THERE, UM, WITH YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY, THEN THAT KIND OF RELEASES IT AND WAVES IT BECAUSE YOU'VE PUT IT OUT IN THE OPEN IN AN OPEN MEETING. 
          UM, THE, UM, DOES THAT, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WAS THE INTENT. 
          'CAUSE I JUST FEEL LIKE SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE BIT GRAY AND JUST GIVEN IT'S HARD, SOME RECENT COMMUNICATIONS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PROTECTING OURSELVES. 
          THANK YOU, GEORGE. 
          ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? CHANEY ON THAT? NO THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER OR AGENDA ITEM 7.4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CORPORATE FOR THE PURCHASE ALCOHOL FOR THE BIZ THRIVE EVENT ON MARCH 4TH, 2025 IN SUPPORT OF THE SMALL BUSINESS EVENT SERIES 
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IN THE BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION PROGRAM. 
          YEP. 
          TYPO. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE SHOULD BE FUNDS AFTER CORPORATE . 
          IT'S JUST FUNDS SHOULD BE. 
          YEAH. 
          OR YEAH. 
          SHOULD BE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR THE PURCHASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THIS ALREADY BUDGETED MONEY? IT'S, UH, YES. 
          SO IT IS, UM, THIS IS REALLY A POLICY ISSUE. 
          THE CORPORATION I CHECKED WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL. 
          UM, IT'S JUST MORE, I'M REALLY TRYING TO COVER OURSELVES AND GET VERY CLEAR PUBLIC APPROVAL FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURCHASE. 
          FOR THIS SPECIFIC EVENT, UM, WE HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO SERVE THE ALCOHOL. 
          HERE AT CITY HALL. 
          WE HAVE TABC CERTIFIED SERVER. 
          SO WE ARE COVERED, WE HAVE AN EVENT PERMIT. 
          SO WE'VE DONE ALL THE THINGS. 
          THIS IS JUST A VERY FORMAL WAY OF ENSURING THAT THIS BOARD IS, UH, IN FAVOR OF, OF THE ALCOHOL COMPONENT AND SPENDING THE CORPORATION FUNDS. 
          I LIKE MOVE TO APPROVE THE USE SECOND. 
          AND IT'S BEING PULLED OUTTA MARKETING. 
          IS THAT WHAT THE FUND THAT WOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS? UH, IT'S WHATEVER THE SMALL BUSINESS OR THE BIZ THRIVE EVENT SERIES IS ALREADY APPROVED IN. 
          'CAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT COMPONENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY TREASURER HENRY GIDEON AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? JUST MAKE SURE THAT FUNDS IS ADDED INTO MOTION. 
          OH, YES. 
          UM, AND THE FIRST SENTENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AFTER CORPORATE FUNDS. 
          I COULD READ IT OUT IF YOU WANT ME TO. 
          DO WE NEED TO READ IT FULL? DO WE NEED TO REREAD IT? YOU COULD JUST SAY, AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          7.4 AS PRESENTED WITH FUNDS AFTER CORPORATE IN THE FIRST LINE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? CHAIR CLANCY AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN? MINTON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          7 0 7 0.5. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING A CREDIT CARD USE POLICY FOR THE CORPORATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE CITY'S, UH, CREDIT CARD USE POLICY WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OBTAINING A CORPORATE CREDIT CARD FOR STAFF USE FOR APPROVED BUDGET ITEMS. UM, A CREDIT CARD USE POLICY HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AND I THOUGHT JUST ADHERING TO THE CITY'S POLICY MIGHT BE THE EASIEST OR AT LEAST USING THAT AS A JUMPING OFF POINT. 
          SHOULD THE BOARD WANT TO, UM, MAKE ANY EDITS OR CHANGES TO THAT, THEN WE WOULD, UM, DRAFT THAT POLICY FOR A FUTURE MEETING. 
          BUT JUST WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK ON THE CITY'S VERSION IF THAT'S THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ON IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHEN REVIEWING IS, UH, JP MORGAN CHASE IS THE ISSUER, IS THERE, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE TYPE OF PURCHASE, LIKE WOULD IT BE AN INCENTIVE TYPE CREDIT CARD THAT WOULD PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR PURCHASES? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO? WOULD THAT BE BENEFICIAL? IN ORDER TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST AROUND THE POLICY SUPPORTING THE CREDIT CARD USE ITSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE CORPORATIONS BANK AS WELLS FARGO. 
          SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE CHANGED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING IS, IS THERE, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE COULD SELECT THAT WOULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, BETTER, BETTER DEALS AND, AND WITH PURCHASES THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS BOARD. 
          LIKE A CASHBACK RIGHT. 
          INCENTIVE OR SOME, SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OR TRAVEL MILES OR SOMETHING TO COVER CHENEY'S TRIP. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. 
          I WOULD HATE TO JUST GET SNEAK, I WOULD HATE TO JUST GET A REGULAR CARD AND WE MISS OUT ON, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL INCENTIVES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE'LL BE, UM, WE'LL LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, WE'VE, I'VE RECENTLY BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, H UH, ANOTHER EDC, NOT WITH THE H IT'S DIFFERENT INITIAL AT THE TOP. 
          UM, BUT, UH, UM, THE DIRECTOR HAD BEEN USING, UM, HIS OWN PERSONAL CREDIT CARD FOR, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL CHARGES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IN DOING SO, UM, WHILE POINTS AND, AND MILES AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE NOT TRANSFERRABLE, UM, HE BECAME AN ELITE AMERICAN AIRLINES NO, YOU KNOW, PERSON AND , UH, HAD, YOU KNOW, OVER, YOU KNOW, 300,000 POINTS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON. 
          AND 
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SO THEY HAD TO FIX THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, SINCE I JUST DID THAT, IT'LL BE A LOT EASIER TO PUT THAT INTO YOURS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, USE OF PRIVATE REIMBURSEMENTS, HOW THAT WOULD HANDLE OR BE HANDLED. 
          'CAUSE IF THE PCARD DOESN'T WORK AND YOU GOTTA GET OUT OF THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER AND YOU GOTTA PAY YOUR, YOUR TECH OR YOUR, UH, PARKING TICKET, YOU GOTTA PAY WITH SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CHALLENGES REALLY COME AT LEAST FOR STAFF WHEN IT'S TIME TO RENEW Y'ALL'S MEMBERSHIPS FOR TEDC. 
          I MEAN, THOSE ARE OVER $500 A PIECE. 
          SO MY TRANSACTION LIMIT ON MY PCARD, I MIGHT BE MAXED OUT FOR THE MONTH BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY BOOKED HOTELS FOR TRAINING AND REGISTRATION FOR TRAINING FOR STAFF. 
          AND SO IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE CARDS BECAUSE THEN THERE'S TWO SEPARATE POOLS OF MONEY AND I'M NOT HAVING TO TRY TO BALANCE THAT AND ACCOMMODATE AND THEN END UP USING MY OWN CARD BECAUSE I CAN'T DO IT ANY OTHER WAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT IS HELPFUL IS BECAUSE THERE'S TWO SEPARATE POOLS OF MONEY ONCE WE, I THINK HOLIDAYS AND HU I GUESS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE BECAUSE THERE WERE APPROVED PURCHASES ON THE EDC SIDE AND THE CITY SIDE. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE SPENDING LIMITS PER VENDOR ON THE CITY SIDE. 
          SO ONCE YOU HIT THOSE, THEN AGAIN, I'M USING MY PERSONAL CARD BECAUSE I CAN'T, I CAN'T CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES ON THE CITY CARD. 
          SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS BY ONLY HAVING ONE CARD, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO VERY ROUTINE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED IN Y'ALL'S BUDGET. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS POLICY WOULD ADHERE TO. 
          SO IF IT'S NOT ALREADY APPROVED IN A LINE ITEM, THAT CARD WOULDN'T BE USED FOR IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR AN APPROVAL. 
          SO ARE WE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS, IN THE CITY'S POLICY THAT THE WAY THE CITY IS RUN VERSUS THE WAY WE ARE RUN AS A CORPORATION, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS POLICY THAT WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR CORPORATION? YEAH. 
          IF, IF YOU WERE TO, TO APPROVE THIS, THIS FORM, UM, YOU SHOULD DO IT BY RESOLUTION. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS IT, IS THERE A RESOLUTION FOR TONIGHT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE DIRECTION. 
          WE WOULD USE THIS AS DIRECTION, AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT, MAKE WHATEVER TWEAKS ARE NECESSARY, BRING IT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. 
          ARE WHAT THRESHOLD AMOUNTS ARE YOU THINKING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? CHANEY. 
          UM, SO THAT ALSO VARIES WITH STAFF. 
          SO THERE'S CERTAIN LEVELS OF STAFF THAT HAVE DIFFERENT APPROVALS. 
          UM, I BELIEVE MINE IS NO LONGER A TRANSACTION LIMIT. 
          IT IS A MONTHLY LIMIT, WHICH IS ALSO VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE AGAIN, I CAN PUT BOOK ONE TRAINING FOR ONE TEAM MEMBER AND THAT TRANSACTION LIMIT WOULD'VE BEEN EXCEEDED. 
          AND SIMILARLY, IF I CAN JUST BUY ALL Y'ALL'S MEMBERSHIPS IN ONE INVOICE, THEN I WOULD PREFER TO DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S REALLY MORE OF A CARRYING BALANCE, I BELIEVE MINUS 10,000 IS MY LIMIT PER MONTH. 
          DO YOU FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE? YEAH. 
          IT'S BEEN GOOD SO FAR TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS CORPORATION. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT? AND YEAH. 
          AND THE, THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING, LIKE IF I FORESEE THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS TRAINING AND THESE MEMBERSHIPS ARE DUE, AND THIS EVENT REGISTRATION'S COMING UP AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE GONNA HIT IN THE SAME MONTH, THEN THAT'S ON ME TO COME TO Y'ALL THE, THE PRIOR MEETING AND SAY, HEY, I'M REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN MY LIMIT. 
          AND THEN FINANCE WOULD TAKE THAT DIRECTION AND INCREASE THAT TEMPORARILY. 
          LIKE THE WAY WE DO IT AT THE CITY IS IF I NEED AN INCREASE, I HAVE TO REQUEST THAT FROM MY DIRECT SUPERVISOR AND THE PURCHASING MANAGER. 
          AND THEY GO IN AND I HAVE TO TELL THEM FOR HOW LONG I NEED THAT LIFTED AND FOR WHAT REASON. 
          SO I WOULD DO THE SAME FOR THE BOARD. 
          I WOULD COME AND SAY, HEY, BECAUSE OF X, Y, AND Z, I'M REQUESTING THIS INCREASE FOR THIS AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          AND THEN FINANCE JUST SETS THOSE PARAMETERS AND IT AUTO RESETS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S AGAIN, ANOTHER REALLY EASY WAY TO, IF, IF IN THE EVENT THIS OCCURS BE BETWEEN MEETINGS OR SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE THIS, THEN PERHAPS YOU COULD IDENTIFY TWO OF THE OFFICERS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT AUTHORIZATION FROM. 
          AND THEN WE'D BRING IT FOR RATIFICATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, ALSO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CREDIT CARD AND NOT A DEBIT CARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, IF THERE WAS A INAPPROPRIATE UNAUTHORIZED USE, THEN YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO DISPUTE THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY IT AS SOMETHING THAT WAS UNAUTHORIZED, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. 
          SHE GOES OUT AND RENTS A LAMBORGHINI FOR A WEEKEND. 
          , UH, WHAT, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME THE BUILT IN SAFEGUARDS FOR, FOR THAT THAT CREDIT CARD WILL PROVIDE THE, THE BOARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE CREDIT CARD RECONCILIATION WOULD JUST BE PART OF YOUR MONTHLY FINANCIALS THERE AS WELL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          SO WE'LL GET A RECONCILI, OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT. 
          YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE CHARGES WERE, THE GL CODE THAT IT WENT TO IN A BRIEF DESCRIPTION, JUST LIKE OUR FINANCE TEAM GETS. 
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SO WE DON'T REALLY MAKE A MOTION, WE JUST GIVE DIRECTION AT THIS POINT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CORRECT. 
          CREATES A SOLUTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, IT, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE HE IS GOTTA COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION, RIGHT? IT IT, YOU COULD JUST CONSIDER ACTION. 
          AND SO YOU COULD JUST MAKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          WELL, I MEAN, YOU COULD STILL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT, UH, BOARD MEMBER MITTEN, EVEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE COULD STILL MAKE A MOTION AND THEN GET OH, SURE. 
          AND THEN GET THE SECOND AND THEN YOU CAN STILL SURE. 
          NO, ASK YOUR QUESTION. 
          SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE, ARE, ARE WE, IS THERE A MOTION TO MAKE HERE OR IS THIS JUST GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO GO DEVELOP A RESOLUTION? WELL, IF THE, WELL, IF, IF THE BOARD PREFERS, YOU CAN DO IT BY MOTION AND VOTE STAFF WOULD PREFER. 
          I ALWAYS LIKE A MOTION TO DIRECT BECAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS CAN KIND OF FIZZLE AND GO. 
          AND I, I LIKE TO HAVE IT TO LOOK BACK ON. 
          SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO CREATE A CREDIT CARD, USE POLICY RESOLUTION, UM, IN, IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND HAVE THAT APPROVED BY LEGAL AND BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR, UM, VOTE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN MINTON AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          WE WANNA JUST ADJOURN FOR FIVE MINUTES? YES. 
          ADJOURN. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN WE TAKE A RECESS? SURE. 
          FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          UM, IT'S 9 46 AND WE'RE ADJOURNING FOR A RECESS. 
          FIVE MINUTE RECESS. 
          NINE 40. 
          GOOD. 
          I COULD USE A, 
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OKAY. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 9 49 AND THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORP TYPE A TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING IS BACK IN ORDER IN SESSION. 
          SO WE ARE ON DISCUSSION OR DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OR 7.6 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE CORPORATION'S 50,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE HOLIDAYS AND HUDDLE EVENT SERIES. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS ITEM IS REALLY A DISCUSSION AND STAFF IS SEEKING SOME CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, THERE IS A ROUTINE EXPENSE IN THE CORPORATION'S BUDGET THAT IS A 55 0 $50,000, UM, CONTRIBUTION TO THE HOLIDAYS IN HURO. 
          AND THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. 
          SO, UM, THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OVERSAW SUM OF THOSE EVENTS IN THAT SERIES. 
          AND SO IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE BUDGETING SIDE, THE ACTUAL COST OF EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND SO I'D NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY NOT BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN HOW THOSE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED OR ALLOCATED, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO WHERE THOSE FUNDS ACTUALLY GO. 
          'CAUSE 50,000 IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE BOARD. 
          IS YOUR INTENT WITH THAT $50,000 BECAUSE WE KNOW THE HOLIDAYS AND HU DO EVENTS SERIES IS, UM, I THINK IT'S FIVE EVENTS NOW. 
          SO IT COVERS THE TREE LIGHTING AND DRONE SHOW, THE SHOP SMALL SATURDAY INITIATIVE. 
          THOSE OCCUR ON THE SAME DAY. 
          THAT'S THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING. 
          THEN IT ALSO INCLUDES THE CRAWL EVENT, UH, HOLIDAY MARKET, AND THEN THIS YEAR ALSO THE TRAIL OF LIGHTS. 
          SO YAY. 
          FIVE. 
          UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, IN YEARS PAST THOSE EVENTS, EVEN IN ABSENCE OF, OF OUR NEW TRAIL OF LIGHTS WAS BEYOND $50,000. 
          SO IN PREVIOUS YEARS, EFFECTIVELY THAT LUMP SUM JUST GOT BROUGHT OVER AND APPLIED TO THAT LINE ITEM IN THE CITY. 
          WELL, NOW THAT LINE ITEM LIVES IN PARKS AND REC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY BENEFIT FUND. 
          SO , IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS HIT WHERE THEY SHOULD. 
          AND I'M TRYING TO HELP FINANCE TO KIND OF STREAMLINE SOME THINGS AS WELL AS HOW WE REPORT AND WHAT GL CODES WE, UM, CODE EXPENSES TO. 
          AND SO THE ASK IS, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE JUST THE LUMP SUM $50,000? DO YOU WANT TO SPECIFY CERTAIN EVENTS THAT YOU WANT THAT TO GO TO? DO YOU WANT ANY ADDITIONAL REPORTING BACK ON WHAT THOSE FUNDS COVERED? OR IS JUST THE FACT THAT, LET'S JUST SAY THE WHOLE SERIES COSTS $150,000, YOU'RE FINE WITH YOUR $50,000 CONTRIBUTION. 
          UM, THEN TO THROW AN EXTRA MONKEY WRENCH IN THE THE MIX, WE ARE ALSO STARTING A SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM FOR THE CITY AND THE HOLIDAYS AND HUDDLE EVENT SERIES IS INCLUDED IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          SO AS THOSE EVENTS EITHER ELEVATE WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, SO WE'RE OFFERING MORE, WE'RE DOING IT BIGGER, BETTER, UH, THAN EVER BEFORE OR WE'RE ABLE TO OFFSET EXISTING COSTS, HOW DOES THIS CORPORATION WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT? CAN I, DO Y'ALL HAVE THE BRAIN CAPACITY FOR THIS? I REALIZE IT'S 10 O'CLOCK. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF FINANCIAL. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION PARTS ABOUT ONE OF THE EVENTS AND NOT TO BE A GOODY TWO SHOE, BUT I STUMBLED INTO THE SANTA CRAWL IN NEW YORK CITY ONE TIME. 
          MM. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE ON AN EVENT. 
          NOW, I WASN'T HERE FOR THE BUDGET AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SANTA CRAWL HERE LOCALLY IS, BUT IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE NEW YORK CITY, DO WE SPONSOR AN EVENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE DELIBERATELY AND OBVIOUSLY GOING BAR HOPPING? AND IS THERE LIABILITY ON US? WHILE I ALSO REALIZE PEOPLE CAN BE GROWNUPS AND ADULTS, I WORRY IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME BACK ON US NEGATIVELY IF SOMEBODY WAS OVERSERVED GOT ON THE HIGHWAY? GEORGE, DO WE WANT OUR NAME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? YEP. 
          UM, SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, UM, I WOULD NOT, UM, FIND ANY LEGITIMATE CLAIM THAT 
          [03:15:01]
WOULD BE BROUGHT AGAINST YOU. 
          UH, YOU HAVE TORT IMMUNITY AND SO THE, THE NEGLIGENCE AND INTENTIONAL ACTS THAT RESULT IN HARM, THEY DON'T APPLY TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS BY LAW. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE DEFINED. 
          UM, AND ALSO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE ALCOHOL AVAILABLE. 
          YOU'RE NOT SERVING THE ALCOHOL, YOU'RE NOT SUPERVISING THE EVENT. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING AN ACT, UH, OR HAVE A DUTY TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU, YOU DON'T DO, UM, WHICH WOULD OTHERWISE ESTABLISH A LIABILITY FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK YOU'RE GOOD THERE NOW. 
          WELL, AND ALSO PERCEPTION WISE THOUGH, IS IS 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE LAST THING YOU SAID, RIGHT? THAT'S MORE UP TO Y'ALL. 
          IT'S A POLICY ISSUE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO REALLY WEIGH IN ON A MORAL ISSUE, JUST AN EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD. 
          RIGHT? WELL, IT DOESN'T, HERE'S THE THING. 
          OMG, THAT, THAT SANTARA DOESN'T GO FROM BAR TO BAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BASICALLY EACH SMALL BUSINESS THAT IS AN OLD TOWN, AND I THINK THIS YEAR THERE WERE BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T SEATED NECESSARILY IN OLD TOWN, BUT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE TRAFFIC AND GET THE EXPOSURE, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE CREATIVE COCKTAIL. 
          AND THEY'RE ABOUT THIS BIG IN A LITTLE CUP. 
          I WENT LAST YEAR, I WENT THIS YEAR, IT WAS A BLAST. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS IN, IN NO WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPAIRED IMPAIRED FROM THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL THAT WAS PROVIDED. 
          OKAY. 
          I MAY HAVE MADE DIS DIFFERENT DECISIONS WHEN I GOT HOME, BUT NO, IT'S JUST KIDDING. 
          BUT IT'S VERY, IT'S A, I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT EVENT FOR BRINGING TRAFFIC TO OLD TOWN AND SUPPORTING THOSE BUSINESSES AND ALSO HAVING, YOU KNOW, WE, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GROWING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS, ET CETERA, THAT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO, YOU KNOW, AND NOW NOT EVERYONE IS GONNA PARTICIPATE, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, BRING YOUR YOUNG CHILDREN TO THE, TO THE, YOU KNOW, 21 AND OVER, UM, WHAT, IT'S 21 AND OVER. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S 21 AND OVER. 
          SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AS A, WE, AS A CITY, AS A EDC, IF WE CAN KEEP OUR PROGRAMMING TO INCLUDE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE AN EMPTY NESTER OR YOU'RE, OUR DEMOGRAPHIC IN THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, MID THIRTIES. 
          UM, SO A LOT OF TIME, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT EVENT PERSONALLY, IT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A MORAL, I JUST WE'RE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PARTICIPATE IN, 'CAUSE I SUPPORT ALL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE WINTERTIME FOR THOSE ECONOMIC STIMULUSES MM-HMM . 
          I JUST WANT TO, LET'S KEEP AN EYE ON STUFF LIKE THAT AND SEE, SEE THAT IT DOESN'T GO SOMEWHERE. 
          AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN LIKE, IF YOU GO TO SIXTH STREET AND YOU GO FROM BAR TO BAR TO BAR TO BAR OR IF YOU'RE IN NEW YORK CITY AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 30 PEOPLE ALL WEARING SANTA CLA SUITS GOING FROM, I MEAN, I STUMBLED ON A FEW OF THOSE, UH, SANTA CRAWL SITUATIONS, UH, DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. 
          NEVER BEEN ACED BY SANTA CLAUS BEFORE I WENT TO NEW YORK OR A REINDEER, YOU KNOW, SO A BIG REINDEER COSTUME THAT HAPPENS TOO. 
          I DID REMOVE HIS BEER. 
          , WHO IS CURRENTLY HOSTING THESE? IS IT THE CITY OR IS IT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT? SO IT'S A VARIETY. 
          SO THIS YEAR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOSTED THE, UM, SHOP SMALL SATURDAY INITIATIVE, THE HOLIDAY MARKET AND THE CRAWL AND PARKS AND REC DOES THE DRONE SHOW AND TREE LIGHTING AND THEIR TRAIL OF LIGHTS. 
          UM, UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FUNDING AND LIKE WHERE THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED TO IS BECOMING THE ISSUE. 
          UH, IT'S JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION. 
          AGAIN, THIS WAS MY FIRST YEAR BEING EXPOSED TO ANY OF THE EVENTS IN THIS CAPACITY AND HAVING THAT MUCH OVERSIGHT AND KIND OF SEEING WHAT THE EXPENSES LOOK LIKE. 
          NOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE PARKS AND RECS ITEMS. I KNOW THAT IT'S WELL OVER $50,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS NOT ARE YOUR FUNDS BEING APPLIED TO WHAT WE SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE? IT'S MORE OF ARE THEY GOING TO THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE GOING TO? BECAUSE IF MY EVENT, I'LL SAY MY EVENT, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. 
          IF ONE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EVENTS IS OVER $50,000, DOES THAT GO TO THAT EVENT? DOES IT, IS IT ALREADY SPENT? BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME BUCKET OF FUNDS. 
          SO WE AREN'T JUST CHARGING ALL HOLIDAYS AND HU ITEMS AND EXPENSES TO THE SAME LINE ITEM. 
          BECAUSE I HAVE SOME IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FUND, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME THAT ARE PARKS AND RECS. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S BECOMING A LITTLE DISJOINTED. 
          I THINK THAT IT SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, UM, WHERE THESE OTHER, LIKE WHERE THE TREE LIGHTING AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS GET FUNDED, LIKE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND YOU SAID SAYING IT'S PULLING FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES MM-HMM . 
          BUT ALSO I DON'T WANT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE TREE LIGHTING ANYMORE. 
          AND THEN THEY WERE RELYING ON OUR FUNDING RIGHT. 
          TO DO THAT. 
          SO I DON'T WANT THAT, OR I DON'T WANT LIKE, THE MISCOMMUNICATION THERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE GOT SOME MORE, UM, I MORE 
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UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEIR FUNDING IS AND WHAT THEIR, WHAT THE CITIES ASK, OR WHAT THE PARKS AND REC IS ASKING OF US, OR WHAT THEY EXPECT OR HELP, LIKE OUR FINANCIAL, JUDICIARY FINANCIAL, UM, RESPONSIBILITY TO THEM IS THEN WE CAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE WE CAN LIKE APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR YOU AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO, FOR THE EDC, MAYBE BRING BACK A FORM OF A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IF Y'ALL ARE ALL WORKING COLLABORATIVELY, THEN YOU BRING US A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WE CAN MM-HMM . 
          CONSIDER IT AND THEN YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, THE TREE LIGHTING, THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT 40,000 'CAUSE THEY'RE PULLING FROM X, Y, AND Z. 
          WE DON'T WANNA GIVE THEM LIKE 10,000 OR SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T REALLY NEED ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY'LL JUST USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT, RIGHT. 
          SO I GUESS JUST MORE INFORMATION ON EACH YEAH, WE'LL LOOP IN FINANCE TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY'VE BEEN FUNDED FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SO I, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A, A CONSEQUENTIAL DIFFERENCE FOR THEIR PROCESS TOO. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA PROPOSE ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE THINGS MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I WANNA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THEIR POSITION AND THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEIR PROCESSES AS WELL. 
          SO. 
          PERFECT. 
          WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S JUST MM-HMM . 
          WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE. 
          SO WE'LL GO UP TO GO TO 7.7, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION REGARDING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, FY 25 TO REALLOCATE FUNDS TO SUPPORT OF THE IN SUPPORT OF SMALL BUSINESS WEEK EVENTS AND QUARTERLY SMALL BUSINESS EVENTS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT $2,000 BE REALLOCATED FROM THE MARKETING SERVICES LINE ITEM, UM, SUBLINE ADDITIONAL MARKETING SERVICES, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS, UM, $10,000 IN APPROVED FUNDS. 
          THE REALLOCATION WOULD GO TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS SLASH AWARDS LINE ITEM WITH THE SUBLINE ITEM QUARTERLY EVENTS, UH, TO SUPPORT BIZ THRIVE, WHICH IS THAT EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON THE FOURTH. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE $2,000 FOR THE YEAR, WHICH IS ONLY $500 PER EVENT. 
          AND IN OUR PLANNING FOR THIS INITIAL EVENT, WE'RE QUICKLY RECOGNIZING THAT INFLATION IS REAL AND  THINGS ARE COSTING MORE. 
          AND WE ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANNA GO TO THEM ALL THE TIME ASKING FOR SOME HUGE DISCOUNT OR DONATION BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP THEIR BUSINESS. 
          THEY NEED SALES. 
          UM, SO WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT. 
          SO AT ANY RATE, THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PANELISTS THAT ARE DOING THIS PRO BONO. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM SOME, YOU KNOW, ELEVATED SWAG OR SOME GIFT CARD OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE TO HELP COMPENSATE THEM FOR THEIR TIME 'CAUSE THEY ARE TRAVELING AND TAKING TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY AND HOBBIES AND ALL OF THAT. 
          AND POTENTIALLY THEIR WORK TIME TO COME PARTICIPATE. 
          SO WE WERE AMOUNT, YEAH, SO THE AMOUNT WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS, ADDITIONAL A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GO TO THE QUARTERLY BIZ THRIVE EVENTS. 
          AND THEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUDGETED FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK. 
          WE'VE ALREADY STARTED PLANNING THAT, THAT'S IN MAY. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF LOCAL BUSINESSES TO DO APPRECIATION EVENTS. 
          UM, SO IT'LL BE A MARKET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, THE BIZ THRIVE, WHICH IS MORE OF A SMALL BUSINESS EDUCATION SERIES VERSUS A SMALL BUSINESS WEEK EVENT, WHICH IS REALLY JUST FOCUSED ON APPRECIATING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          UM, FOR, FOR BEING HERE IN HURO. 
          SO THE TOTAL IS 2000, IT'D BE A THOUSAND FOR EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT EACH QUARTERLY EVENT BE INCREASED FROM $500 TO $750 AND THAT, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AS PRESENTED. 
          WELL, DOES, DO WE NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THIS IF WE, IF WE DO THIS REALLOCATION? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          IT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE REQUESTING A, AN INCREASE, I BELIEVE GEORGE, BUT I'LL LET LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE EXPENDITURE. 
          SO IF THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED WITHIN THE SAME SCOPE OF EXPENDITURE THAT THEY WERE ALLOCATED TO, THEN YOU DON'T NEED BOARD. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THESE FROM ONE TYPE OF EXPENDITURE TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISC DIS UH, EXPENDITURE, YOU WOULD NEED APPROVAL FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TO PUT IT MORE PLAINLY, IF THE, IF THE LINE ITEM NUMBER IS CHANGING, WE WOULD NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          WELL, SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE ALLOCATION CURRENTLY FOR? SO ONE OF THEM IS, WELL, THEY'RE IN SPECIAL EVENTS AND AWARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL BE REALLOCATING $2,000 FROM MARKETING SERVICES TO THE LINE ITEM SPECIAL EVENTS AND AWARDS SUBLINE MM-HMM . 
          QUARTERLY ED EVENTS. 
          SO IT'S EVENTS AND MARKETING IS A CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, AS LONG AS THERE IS A MARKETING ELEMENT TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AT EVENTS, IT'S SIGNIFICANT, IT'S FINE. 
          AND YOU DON'T REALLY EVEN HAVE TO MOVE. 
          THAT WAS, YOU CAN JUST PAY $2,000 OUTTA YOUR MARKETING FOR THE 
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MARKETING STUFF AND PAY THE REST OUTTA THE OTHER ONE. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT GL CODES THOUGH, SO I GET A LITTLE PARTICULAR ABOUT THAT, THAT . 
          OKAY. 
          MAKE SURE THAT'S NO MONEY WILLY-NILLY AROUND HERE. 
          THAT'S WITHIN THE SAME SCOPE OF PROJECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ALSO WE DO HAVE THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION NUMBER. 
          IT'S R 2025 DASH 0 5 2. 
          JUST FOR THE RECORD AND FOR BOARD'S AWARENESS. 
          I'LL REPEAT MY MOTION, WHICH IS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY TREASURER HENRY GIDEON AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          TREASURER. 
          GIDEON AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          VICE CHAIR? MINTON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          7 0 7 0.8. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO THE CORPORATION'S TYPE A AND TYPE B BYLAWS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. 
          SIGNATURE AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CORPORATION CORPORATE CREDIT CARD AND USE POLICY AGENDA PROCEDURES, AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REGARDING THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD AUTHORIZATION TO EXPEND FUNDS FOR EXPENSES AS APPROVED IN THE, IN THE CORPORATION'S BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS HAS BEEN A FEW MEETINGS IN THE MAKING. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CHANGING IN YOUR BYLAWS. 
          SO THE BYLAWS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS NOW, BUT THESE WERE SOME SPECIFICS THAT CAME TO LIGHT OUT OF Y'ALL'S DISCUSSIONS AND THEN FROM SOME OTHER TOPICS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS MONTH'S AGENDA. 
          SO SIGNATURE AUTHORITY, I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST. 
          SIGNATURE AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CORPORATION. 
          I KNOW WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY, LEGAL WAS GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT, AT WHAT CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY IS WITH REGARD TO THE CITY BUDGET AND OPERATIONS. 
          I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SIGNING, UM, RIGHTS OF ENTRY MM-HMM . 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE. 
          'CAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE POLICY. 
          I SENT IT TO LEGAL  FOR REVIEW OR THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IT. 
          SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF, UM, LEGAL COUNSEL HAD ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS OR IDEAS FROM THE CITY'S STRUCTURE THAT THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY STRUCTURE COMPARED HERE AGAIN, IS THAT YOU'RE A NONPROFIT CORPORATION UNDER CHAPTER 22 VERSUS A HOME RULE CITY. 
          AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES THAT APPLY TO THOSE. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE THE, THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY HAS TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE, I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD OR, UH, EXERCISE THIS BUDGET YEAR TO REALLY DIG INTO THE ROUTINE EXPENDITURE IDENTIFIERS IN YOUR BUDGET. 
          SO THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PRE-APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, THE, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE ANTICIPATED COSTS THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR, TYPICALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE CAN GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO BE ROUTINE. 
          AND THEN IT'S JUST THAT, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND SO FORTH, THAT WOULD BE, UM, QUESTION OR HAVE TO GO UP THE, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS CORPORATION AUTHORITY, I THINK THAT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE, THE, UH, THE BOARD'S DISCRETION SO LONG AS IT MEETS THE CONDITIONS OF AN EXPENDITURE THAT'S BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THEY USE TYPICALLY $50,000 IS THE TYPICAL AMOUNT FOR, FOR COUNCIL OR CITY, UH, MANAGERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE, UH, BIGGER CITIES HAVE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AS, AS THE LIMITATION IF YOU'RE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN POPULATION FOR CITY MANAGERS, THAT'S JUST A RECENT CHANGE. 
          UH, AND SO IT'S REALLY WHAT YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FEELS IS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT AND WHAT THE BOARD AGREES OR DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT NUMBER AND WANTS A PARTICULAR NUMBER FOR THAT AMOUNT. 
          BUT IF IT'S A, IT HAS TO BE A ROUTINE EXPENDITURE THAT BOTH THE BOARD IS APPROVED AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVED FOR, FOR THAT EXPENDITURE TO BE THERE. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE SAME THING WITH A CREDIT CARD IS THAT IT'S JUST ANOTHER FORM OF PAIN THAT IT'S GONNA BE, IT, IT HAS TO BE AN APPROVED EXPENDITURE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK, GEORGE, FOR THIS ITEM WE WERE LOOKING AT SIGNATURE AUTHORITY OUTSIDE OF FINANCIAL, SO DOCUMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I THINK WE'RE, I HOPE WE'RE KIND OF MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE, THE EXPENDITURE PIECE AND WITH THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. 
          AND THEN, SO THERE'S THE BUDGET, BUT THERE'S A LIMITATION TO THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY THAT YOU 
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CAN PROVIDE IF THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY TO THE BOARD, I MEAN, TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS ONE TO CARRY OUT A PARTICULAR TASK, UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY FINE IF THE OBLIGATION THAT SHE'S PUT, IF SHE'S PUTTING AN OBLIGATION ON THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM. 
          SO IF SHE'S BROUGHT SOMETHING TO YOU AND SAID, LISTEN, WE'VE GOT THESE EASEMENTS COMING UP, UM, I'D LIKE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE ME TO EXECUTE THOSE EASEMENTS TODAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD DO IT IN BASKETS, YOU KNOW, KNOW, APPROVE A BUNCH OF BASKETS THIS QUARTER, ANTICIPATE WITH THE THINGS COMING UP, AND THEN SHE CAN BRING IT UP IN ANOTHER QUARTER AND BRING THOSE TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SHOULD DEFINE THESE OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, I THINK THAT THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT IN UP, UM, IN LIGHT OF KEEPING PROJECTS GOING OR MM-HMM . 
          KEEPING PROJECTS FROM NOT STOPPING AND WAITING FOR OUR APPROVAL. 
          AND SO SOMETIMES I THINK THINGS COME UP, UM, THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT OR THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, IS THERE A WAY THAT, AND SO YES, IN BUCKETS IT WOULD BE IDEAL, RIGHT? SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THINGS MOVING ALONG, BUT IN THE LIGHT OF SOMETHING, NOT THAT WE LIKE, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, NO FORESIGHT, IT WAS JUST KIND OF SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T, UM, ADDRESS IN A PRIOR MEETING. 
          ARE THERE LIKE LIMITATIONS, UM, AND RIGHTS WE CAN GIVE CHENEY THAT SHE CAN GO AHEAD AND SIGN OFF? I THINK OUR, THE PARTICULAR ONE WAS LIKE RIGHT OF ENTRY MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN, UH, EXPAND ON THAT TOPIC? YEAH. 
          SO THAT IS THE EXAMPLE THAT THE CHAIR IS REFERRING TO, THAT KIND OF WAS THE CATALYST FOR THIS DISCUSSION. 
          UM, WE HAD A, WE HAD APPROVED EASEMENTS BUT NOT APPROVED A RIGHT OF ENTRY. 
          AND SO EFFECTIVELY THEY HAD THE EASEMENTS AND THOSE WERE ASSIGNED, BUT THEY HAD NO RIGHT OF ENTRY TO THE EASEMENTS BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ON OUR PROPERTY TO GET TO THE EASEMENTS, . 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT JUST MAKE SENSE, BUT I DON'T WANNA JUST DO THEM BECAUSE THEY MAKE SENSE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ACTUAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. 
          SO THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, OH, IS THAT SIGNATURE AUTHORIZED OR APPROVED BECAUSE NOW THAT DOCUMENT'S NOT VALID BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A BOARD VOTE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE VERY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. 
          AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, GEORGE, OUR PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED, THOSE EASEMENTS WERE APPROVED. 
          THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE PROJECT THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THOSE EASEMENTS, THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS AND, AND KNOWS ABOUT. 
          SO WHILE IT MAKES SENSE THAT OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED A RIVE ENTRY, WE, I'LL JUST SIGN IT. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADJACENT OR SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT WOULD JUST MAKE THINGS MUCH EASIER RATHER THAN TO CHAIR'S POINT, HAVING TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING AND GET ANOTHER RESOLUTION AND DO THE WHOLE SONG AND DANCE. 
          WELL, I THINK IT'S, IT'S LIKE, AND I'LL USE THE, THE, UM, THE SPINE ROAD AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          IF, IF WE, UH, BROADEN THE LANGUAGE IN OUR TEMPLATE ORDINANCE FOR AUTHORIZATION THAT IT AUTHORIZES YOU TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND ANY OTHER EXPENDITURES, NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE AMOUNT IN FURTHERANCE OF THIS PROJECT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE DECISIONS FINANCIALLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW, NOW WE COULD ALSO SAY AND EXECUTE DOCUMENTS WHICH DO NOT RESULT IN THE, THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE HER THE STATUTORY OR THE, THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY TO SIGN EASEMENTS OF THOSE TYPE. 
          IT'S A BETTER UMBRELLA. 
          CHENEY? YES. 
          BECAUSE IN, IN MY WORLD, MY OLD WORLD OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF A, IF, IF THE CITY WERE TO COME TO ME ASKING FOR AN EASEMENT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST WE WANT, WE WANT A, WE WANT A RIGHT AWAY EASEMENT, THAT'S A BOARD APPROVAL. 
          I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION, BUT IF I'M DEVELOPING A PIECE OF PROPERTY AS I DID, I HAD AUTHORIZATIONS TO DO RIGHT. 
          OF ENTRIES AND DO MY OWN, YOU KNOW, DO EASEMENTS AND, AND AND WHATNOT. 
          SO, BUT I THINK WHAT GEORGE JUST ARTICULATED WOULD COVER YOU A LOT MORE FLEXIBLY MM-HMM . 
          AFTER WE SEE THE RESOLUTION AND WE AGREE TO IT, AND THEN YOU KNOCK OUT ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN OF THESE, THESE EXAMPLES WHERE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO US MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          EVERY TIME THEY APPROVE A GENERAL, LIKE THE SPINE ROAD MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, YOU GOT $18 MILLION AND IF YOU CAN SPEND THAT MONEY IN FURTHERANCE OF THE PROJECT WITH, TO AN, UH, AMOUNT OF 15% OVER THE CURRENT AMOUNT, SO THAT WAY IF YOU SPEND OVER $2 MILLION, YOU GOTTA COME BACK TO GET MORE MM-HMM . 
          STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF HOW IT WOULD WORK ON EASEMENTS. 
          JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU GIVE AN EASEMENT THAT THEY CAN'T GET TO, 
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THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT BY NECESSITY BY LAW, SO THEY CAN GO ON YOUR PROPERTY TO GET ON AND OFF THEIR EASEMENT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED. 
          OTHERWISE THE EASEMENT WOULD HAVE NO VALUE AND, AND THEY COULDN'T GET TO IT. 
          IT'D BE LANDLINE. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO , SO, SO CALL ME AND I'D GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          BUT, UM, BUT OTHERWISE, UH, EASEMENTS FOR INSTANCE, ARE NOT A LAND TRANSFER, THEY'RE NOT A TRANSFER OF LAND. 
          IT, THEY'RE ONLY A RIGHT TO USE A PART OF THE LAND THAT RUNS WITH THE, WITH THE, THE LAND. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT STAYS WITHIN THE DEED RECORDS, IT GOES TO THE NEXT PERSON, NEXT PERSON, NEXT PERSON. 
          YOU JUST CAN'T BUILD ON IT. 
          UM, WELL IT, IT DEPENDS. 
          I MEAN IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE EASEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT I'VE DONE WITH OTHER, UM, BOARDS IS WE'VE DEVELOPED A RULE THAT SAYS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SCOPE OF EASEMENTS WILL BE DONE AT WITH, WITH THIS AMOUNT OF, OF LEEWAY. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE APPROVABLE BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WANTS, THEY'RE APPROVED TO FORM BY LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          AND THEN THAT WAY MOST OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ROUTINE WE CAN JUST TAKE CARE OF WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL IT OTHER MEETING. 
          UM, BUT IF IT'S, LIKE YOU SAID A A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING, WE WANT TO GET A EASEMENT TO, YOU KNOW, RUN, UM, HIPPOS ACROSS THE, THE, UM, MEGA SIDE EVERY THREE YEARS THAT NEEDS TO COME TO COUNCIL OR COME TO THE BOARD. 
          WELL, TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE CHENEY, UM, A RIGHT TO SIGN UP TO $2 MILLION. 
          THAT WOULD BE 10% OF THE PROJECT. 
          THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. 
          YOU COULD DO 25% OVER THE GMP OR 5% OVER THE GMP. 
          A BIG PROJECT LIKE THAT, YOU MAY ONLY WANNA DO FIVE MM-HMM . 
          WHICH WOULD'VE ONLY BEEN 900,000, LIKE 1%, WHICH I THINK THAT THAT'S A LOT TO HAND OVER. 
          I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE, I'VE SEEN AS MUCH AS 25%. 
          OH MY GOD. 
          I HAD THE AUTHORITY TO GO OVER PROJECTS BY 25%, BUT I ALWAYS STILL WENT TO THE BOARD AS A COURTESY MM-HMM . 
          UH, NOW I NEVER DID THAT. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE, SO ALL MY CAN AND WHAT TYPE OF TYPE WE USE FOR TO, FOR CHENEY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECTS THAT SHE NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD ON WITHOUT ASKING FOR PERMISSION FROM US AS FAR AS EASEMENTS GO. 
          AND WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED? EASEMENTS RIGHT OF ENTRY, I FEEL LIKE, UM, ADJACENT TO THE SPINE ROAD, KIND OF NEGOTIATING THOSE EASEMENTS. 
          I KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS, I KNOW WHAT WE CAN SPEND. 
          OBVIOUSLY I'M GONNA HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CORPORATION AND THE CITY AT HEART, SO START LOW AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN GET. 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE I'M NOT GOING OVER BUDGET ON ANYTHING. 
          I'M NOT SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS , IT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S JUST TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING I THINK IS REALLY HELPFUL. 
          AND YOU WOULD VET IT WITH YOUR ENGINE, THE CITY ENGINEER IN MOST CASES ANYWAY. 
          YES. 
          TO MAKE SURE A 65 FOOT EASEMENT  DOESN'T GET APPROVED WHEN WE ONLY NEED A 10 FOOT ENCORE EASEMENT. 
          YES. 
          OR FOR EXAMPLE, WE APPROVED THE 50 FOOT PERMANENT EASEMENTS, BUT DID NOT APPROVE THE FULL A HUNDRED FOOT TEMPORARY EASEMENT THAT'S REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY OH, CONSTRUCTION. 
          CONSTRUCTION. 
          CONSTRUCTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF THAT, IF THAT HAPPENED AGAIN, I CAN APPROVE THAT TEMPORARY EASEMENT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT PROJECT. 
          IT'S TEMPORARY, IT'S NOT IMPEDING ON Y'ALLS PROPERTY. 
          I THINK GEORGE'S IN PERPETUITY IS JUST STAB IS GONNA COVER YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE CAN TAKE ANY CURRENT PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY ON AND DO A MASTER RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES HER ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR TEMPLATE SO THAT EVERY FUTURE PROJECT THAT YOU APPROVE WILL GIVE, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT AUTHORITY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE, UM, WE'RE DISCUSSING 7.8, SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN OUR BYLAWS OR CAN THAT BE AMENDMENT TO THE BYLAWS? OR HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT, UM, AS A POLICY OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN ALL, ALL I THINK YOU NEED TO DO IS, IS PASS A RESOLUTION AND NOT HAVE TO AMEND TO YOUR BYLAWS AND THEN HAVE THAT GO UP TO APPROVAL AND TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS UNTIL WE GET IT DONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE COULD DO A RESOLUTION BY NEXT MEETING AND, AND HAVE IT DONE. 
          AND THEN THE RESOLUTIONS IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL ALL HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN IT. 
          UM, AND JUST AS AN ASIDE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE PERCENTAGES EITHER. 
          IF YOU JUST WANNA SAY THE $18 MILLION PROJECT, IF SHE HAS A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, AUTHORITY BEFORE COMING BACK, YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. 
          IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS UP TO THE BOARD AND THE PROJECT MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, A $50,000 CHANGE ORDER ON A DESIGN ISSUE SO YOU CAN KEEP MOVING, UH, WITH THE CONTRACTOR. 
          THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          MAYBE WE MATCH WHAT THE CITY DOES. 
          DAN, CAN I ASK YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT AUTHORIZATION YOU GIVE MATT AS FAR AS LEEWAY 
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TO APPROVE BEFORE HE COMES BACK TO Y'ALL? PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET? WELL, MM-HMM. 
          HOLD ON. 
          I CAN ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. 
          SO THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS ONLY ALLOWS FOR CHANGE ORDERS UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT BEFORE THEY HAVE TO GO BACK FOR APPROVAL. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE CORPORATION DIFFERENT IS ABLE TO DO. 
          SO THAT'S ONE COMPONENT. 
          BRIAN CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT MATT IS NECESSARILY AUTHORIZED, IT'S CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED OKAY. 
          TO APPROVE. 
          AND THOSE ARE UP TO, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE STIPULATED IN, IN THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND THE, THE LANGUAGE FOR THE INITIAL APPROVAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, STATE LAW RELATED TO CITIES CAN GO UP TO 25% OF THE, OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE CO PROJECT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BEFORE YOU NEED TO GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          BUT I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CITIES NOT GIVE 25%, IT'S BEEN 10 OR 15%, UM, LEEWAY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDERS ON A PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          AND TYPICALLY THAT'S BUILT INTO THE BID TOO, THAT YOU HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO BE, UH, FOR CHANGE ORDERS. 
          SO DOES THIS BOARD FEEL THAT WE WANT TO PUT A SPECIFIC NUMBER TO THIS OR DO WE WANT TO JUST HAVE, UH, THE DIRECTION OF CHENEY GET WITH LEGAL AND CREATE A RESOLUTION TO BRING TO THE EDC BOARD NEXT MEETING. 
          SECOND THAT, YEAH. 
          YEAH, I THINK THE SECOND ITEM, YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO RESOLUTION FOR BOARD AUTHORITY, UM, I'LL CREATE A MOTION TO CREATE A RESOLUTION FOR EDC DIRECTOR TO YEP. 
          UM, GET WITH LEGAL AND BRING, UH, AGENDA ON THEM FOR ACTION ON THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY ME PRESIDENT, UM, AARON CLANCY, AND THEN SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          CAN I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MM-HMM. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN MINTON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN. 
          AYE. 
          TREASURER. 
          GIDEON AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS ON CORPORATE CREDIT CARD USE AND WE'VE ALREADY HANDLED THAT ON A PRE, THE PRIOR ITEM TO, UH, DO A POLICY AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I THINK THE NEXT ITEM WITHIN SEVEN EIGHT WOULD BE AGENDA PROCEDURES. 
          UH, I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN OUR BYLAWS ABOUT AGENDA PROCEDURES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WANNA CREATE OUR OWN POLICY, BUT, UM, I KNOW THE CITY RECENTLY REDID THEIR AGENDA PROCEDURES AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO ALLOW TIME FOR FINANCE AND LEGAL REVIEW. 
          AND WHILE WE DON'T HAVE QUITE THE SAME WORKLOAD FOR THOSE TWO AREAS IN PARTICULAR, I DID THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO REVIEW ONE WHO'S ABLE TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL DOES IT ONE WAY, IS THAT THE SAME FOR THE BOARD OR NOT? SO I JUST WANTED LEGAL TO WEIGH IN AND JUST REITERATE WHAT THE AGENDA PRACTICES ARE OF THE CORPORATION RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN I CAN PROVIDE SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL CONTEXT OF WHAT THE, THE CITY IS DOING JUST TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR PREPARATION. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CITY'S DEADLINE TO EVEN PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA IS TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE 48 HOURS AFTER THAT TO HAVE ALL OF YOUR MATERIALS INCLUDED. 
          AND THEN I THINK 48 HOURS AFTER THAT, LEGAL AND FINANCE HAVE TO HAVE REVIEWS AND IT HAS TO BE FINALIZED. 
          SO IT'S, WE'RE OPERATING LIKE ALMOST A MONTH AHEAD, ? UH, MOST OF THE TIME. 
          ABOUT THREE WEEKS, I GUESS. 
          SO. 
          UM, AGAIN, WHILE OUR AGENDAS TYPICALLY ARE NOT AS LONG AS COUNCIL, I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME KIND OF EXPECTATION ABOUT WHAT'S REASONABLE WITH REGARD TO PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA TO ALLOW STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE ADEQUATELY. 
          UM, AND ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S NOT JUST MYSELF OR MY TEAM. 
          SOMETIMES I NEED TO LEVERAGE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND SO THERE'S ITEMS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SET SOME EXPECTATIONS AROUND THAT AND GET SOME CONSENSUS AROUND WHAT, WHAT'S EFFECTIVE. 
          UM, THERE IT IS IN OUR BYLAWS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO SECTION 2.2 JUST SAYS MEETINGS OF THE DIRECTORS IN GENERAL, THE BOARD SHALL MEET AT LEAST ONCE EACH MONTH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          AND ANY DIRECTOR MAY REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY PROVIDING SAME IN WRITING TO THE CHAIRPERSON NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE BOARD MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BY THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CHAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THEY AREN'T ABLE TO JUST TELL ME THEY WANT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. 
          SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT PREPARES THE AGENDA. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW IF LIKE ERIN SHARED EARLIER, SHE'S SUPER BUSY AND LIKE HER 
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SCHEDULES INTENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT LANGUAGE, LANGUAGE INTENSE. 
          SO MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED. 
          I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT IT MAYBE DIDN'T NEED TO BE CHANGED. 
          I JUST WAS TELLING YOU THAT THERE IS LANGUAGE THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WHAT, SO THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THAT UNDER THE POWERS OF THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR IS THE PRESIDING O OFFICER OVER ALL MEETINGS. 
          AND ONE OF THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS TO APPROVE AND PREPARE THE AGENDA. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THE, IT'S DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR. 
          NOW THE CHAIR HAS DELEGATED THAT WORK TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO PREPARE THE AGENDA AND DO THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF THE CHAIR LOOKED AT THE AGENDA BEFORE IT WAS POSTED AND SAID, WELL WE, THIS IS GONNA TAKE US TILL MIDNIGHT. 
          I'M GONNA CUT THIS ONE, THIS ONE AND THIS ONE UNTIL NEXT MEETING. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE AUTHORITY THE CHAIR HAS. 
          AND IN THE ABSENCE THE VICE CHAIR. 
          SO THE 10 DAY, UM, PERIOD BASICALLY GIVES, UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THIS SOMETIMES ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE POSTING YET 5:55 PM  SOMETIMES ON SATURDAY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET DOCUMENTS. 
          YEP. 
          SO, UM, I MEAN WE, WE TRY TO GET THINGS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT SOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS CHANGE, LIKE WE'VE SEEN THINGS MOVE PRETTY QUICK, UM, AT TIMES. 
          SO WE DO THAT. 
          SO THE 10 BUSINESS DAYS REALLY, I MEAN THE 10 DAYS IS, UM, WOULD BE SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS. 
          AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DAYS FOR THE CHAIR TO GET IT TO CHENEY IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF SHE GOT IT, IF IT TOOK FOUR DAYS FOR IT TO GET TO CHENEY, THAT WOULD STILL BE SIX DAYS BEFORE WE WOULD BE DOING THE AGENDA POSTING. 
          SO, SO ARE YOU, I'M SORRY, ARE YOU SAYING 10 DAYS PRIOR TO AGENDA POSTING OR 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING DATE OF THE MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE BOARD MEETING. 
          THE BOARD MEETING, YEAH. 
          AND SO FOUR DAYS WOULD BE SIX DAYS. 
          SIX DAYS WOULD STILL BE LIKE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY. 
          AND AGAIN, IF IT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T GET ON THE BOARD BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED THE, THE AGENDA, THEN IT WAS JUST TOO LATE. 
          TOO LATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GO TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SAY OUR MEETING IS ON MONDAY, OBVIOUSLY, AND SO THE PRIOR, BEFORE THE PRIOR WEDNESDAY WOULD BE BEST PRACTICES OR LIKE PRIOR MONDAY. 
          SO IT, I MEAN, BEST PRACTICES WOULD BE AS MUCH, I MEAN, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT YEAH. 
          BUT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PUT IT ON THE CHARTER IF I MEAN, ON THE, ON THE AGENDA. 
          IF IT WAS NOT TURNED INTO YOU BY THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE POSTING, THE MEETING. 
          RIGHT. 
          10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T TELL YOU, WELL, NOBODY'S TOLD ME SO FAR, LIKE NO ITEMS HAVE GONE TO ME YET. 
          SO HAS, IT HASN'T BEEN THAT IT HASN'T BEEN DIRECTED THAT WAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP WAS LIKE, THINGS AREN'T, HASN'T GOING THAT WAY. 
          GOING TO HER. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S NO LIKE, REVIEW AHEAD OF TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          I JUST JUMPED RIGHT INTO HOW IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN. 
          SO I'M GLAD WE'RE  REVISITING. 
          WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT 90% OF WHAT'S GONNA COME BEFORE US IS GONNA BE DRIVEN BY STAFF BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR UNIQUE ROLE ARE OUT THERE WORKING ON OUR BEHALF, AND THEN YOU'RE BRINGING MATTERS TO OUR ATTENTION FOR DISCUSSION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE ONLY THING I WOULD RECOMMEND IS YOU AND CH AND, AND, AND AARON, UM, BUILD THE, AND, AND THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE MAYBE ONE OF US WILL ASK FOR AN ITEM, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WHEN YOU COME, THAT IT'S NOT JUST A, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO? COME WITH, IF YOU'VE PUT THE WORK IN, COME WITH MAYBE A, A, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND SOME SUGGESTED MOTION LANGUAGE FOR DEBATE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT SHIFT DONE. 
          CAN WE SHIFT LIKE 14 DAYS? WHAT I MEAN RIGHT NOW IT'S SAY THAT'S, THAT JUST SEEMS HIGHLY UNREALISTIC, ESPECIALLY WITH DOES WELL WE, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT YOU NEED FROM HER TEAM, AS WELL AS GOING TO OTHER TEAMS. I MEAN, SHE'S NOT A TOP PRIORITY IN OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND SO TO SAY 10 DAYS, THAT JUST SEEMS HIGHLY UNREALISTIC. 
          I MEAN, IT SHOULD AT LEAST BE 14 DAYS PRIOR. 
          BUT THEN I, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TOPIC. 
          IF YOU WANT. 
          I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE WORKING TO ON IT TO LIKE THE FRIDAY BEFORE OR SATURDAY BEFORE. 
          I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TOPIC. 
          LIKE IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE OTHER, UM, PEOPLE WEIGHING, WEIGHING IN ON IT, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S OKAY. 
          BUT IF IT IS LIKE A HEAVY ITEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO INVOLVE OTHER PEOPLE, THEN YEAH. 
          MAYBE A LOT MORE. 
          AND I WOULD TIME PRIOR. 
          YEAH. 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT LEAVES A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY BECAUSE YOU COULD SAY, HEY, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS ITEM, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE A LOT. 
          AND THAT COULD BE WHAT OTHER SOMEONE ELSE THINKS. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT. 
          SO 14 COULD BE LIKE A GOOD, JUST BAROMETER THAT WAY THERE. 
          IT, IT ELIMINATES THE SUBJECTIVITY BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T 
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SEE HOW, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE RIGHT AND YOU WANT THE FULL INFORMATION, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO GIVE TIME FOR THAT TO COME VERSUS JUST, HEY, LET'S THROW IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS A LOT. 
          SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I JUSTT THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHAT WE COULD, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BLEND THAT A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE IF WE SAY IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, AGENDA ITEMS ARE DUE 14 DAYS PRIOR. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EVERY MONTH. 
          THAT'S THE IDEAL TIME, RIGHT? GIVE ME AS MUCH RUNWAY AS YOU CAN. 
          THAT'S IDEAL. 
          BUT IF THERE'S A 14 DAY PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, CUT OFF, AND THEN THINGS ARE JUST, IF WE CAN, WE WILL BASED ON HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS REQUIRED, BUT IT STILL GIVES DISCRETION TO THE CHAIR AND STAFF TO CONFER ON THAT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS, IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A HEAVY LIFT TO YOU, BUT THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO DO ON THE BACK END, SO I'M NOT GONNA BE PREPARED FOR THAT. 
          AT LEAST IT GIVES THAT DISCRETION. 
          AND, BUT THEN WE'RE NOT SAYING HERE'S THE LINE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE IT'S A LITTLE, HERE'S A COUPLE OPTIONS OF A BLEND. 
          ONE IS IF YOU WANT 14 DAYS, THEN USUALLY THERE'S AT LEAST 14 DAYS BETWEEN OUR MEETINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE COULD ADD JUST AN ITEM FOR FUTURE COUNCIL OR FU FUTURE BOARD AGENDAS AS ONE OF THE LAST THINGS ON THE, ON THE AGENDA FOR EACH MEETING. 
          WE HAVE THAT. 
          AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GIVE NOTICE OF SOMETHING YOU WANT, YOU WOULD DO IT THAT NIGHT. 
          AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS AND, AND YOU'RE, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS, UH, TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT ITEM AND OTHER PEOPLE WOULD KNOW THAT IT'S COMING. 
          UM, THE, UM, UM, THE OTHER PART IS, IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CHAIRPERSON THAT WE PREPARE, WHAT I'LL CALL AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT IS THE DELEGATION, THE, OF THAT AUTHORITY TO, TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THEN WOULD ALSO BE THE PERSON WHO COULD RECEIVE THE REQUESTS FOR AGENDA ITEMS, UH, ON HER, ON THE, UM, ON THE PRESIDENT'S BEHALF TO PREPARE THE AGENDA. 
          SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE BYLAWS THEN? MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE IT SAYS, I, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT WHERE NEEDS TO GO NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS PRIOR. 
          AND SO IT, IT SAYS THE BOARD SHALL MEET AT LEAST ONCE EACH MONTH AND ANY DIRECTOR MAY REQUEST AN ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY PROVIDING SAME IN WRITING TO THE CHAIRPERSON NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE BOARD MEETING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THE CHAIRPERSON. 
          AND SO SHOULD THINGS BE EMAILED TO ME AND THEN I EMAIL CHENEY? OR IS IT OKAY THAT I GIVE THAT AUTHORITY TO CHENEY THAT PEOPLE DELIVER THAT INFORMATION? OR WHAT THEY WANTED THE TOPICS TO CHENEY IT, IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION AS TO HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER. 
          OKAY. 
          I, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT I LIKE THE FLOW OF WHERE IT'S GO OR WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. 
          DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S TOO HEAVY FOR YOU TO NO. 
          I FEEL LIKE IF YOU'RE FINE WITH IT, YP THROUGH IT, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NO SENSE IN IT GOING TO YOU JUST TO REBOUND TO ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WOULD RATHER, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PUTTING EXTRA BURDEN ON YOU AND EVERYONE'S KIND OF ALREADY USED TO, AND I'M USED TO IT JUST COMING TO ME 'CAUSE I PREP THE AGENDAS ANYWAY. 
           JUST MAKES SENSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT JUST SEEMS EFFICIENT IN MY MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT IF, UM, IF THERE IS A TOPIC THAT SOMEONE WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT AND YOU COULDN'T ADDRESS IT THIS, THIS TIME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST SO IF, IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING AND THEN WE CAN'T THEN MAKING SURE THAT IT IS ADDRESSED THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND I REALIZE THAT'S THE, I PERSONALLY PREFER IF I HAD SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT I STATED PUBLICLY AT THE END OF OUR MEETINGS MM-HMM . 
          HEY MADAM CLANCY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE CONSIDER HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE TOOTHPASTE WE USE IN THE BATHROOMS HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHATEVER, SOMETHING SILLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          RATHER THAN, THAN GOING THROUGH I, I, I THINK I OWE IT TO YOU AND THE, AND MY TEAM TO, TO PUBLICLY SAY WHEN I'VE GOT A REQUEST MM-HMM . 
          BUT AGAIN, 90% OF THE STUFF THAT'S GONNA COME TO US IS BUILT BY HER. 
          RIGHT. 
          REVIEWED BY YOU, OF COURSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN YOU COME NOT ONLY WITH AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND POSSIBLY SOME MOTION LANGUAGE THAT THEN BE, THAT THEN GETS DEBATED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAVE ON, WE HAVE, THAT MAKES IT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, IN MY OPINION. 
          NOT TO KNOCK WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE HAVE THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ON OUR PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA EVERY MONTH. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          SO IF WE HAVE STUFF WE WANNA BRING, THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT THEN, THEN GIVE HER 30 DAYS OR HOWEVER MANY DAYS, 28 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          TILL OUR NEXT MEETING NOTICE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY 14 TO 21 DAYS MM-HMM . 
          EVERY THREE MONTHS THERE'S AN EXTRA WEEK. 
          SO AS OUR BYLAWS ARE STATED NOW, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE ON THEM? OR IS IT OKAY, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, I SAY 14 CHANGE 10 TO 14. 
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NOW THAT'S GONNA GO UPSTAIRS FOR APPROVAL AS WELL, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          IF IT CHANGES BYLAWS, IT WILL. 
          AND THERE'S STILL OTHER THINGS ON THERE TO DISCUSS. 
          SO IF WE, IF WE'RE GONNA SEND SOMETHING, THEN WE CAN SEND IT ALL AT ONCE. 
          AGREED. 
          LET'S GO THROUGH ALL OF IT FIRST. 
          BUT, UM, LET'S JUST MAKE NOTE, RIGHT, THAT WE WANNA CHANGE 10 TO 14 DAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE NEED TO MAKE A SEPARATE RESOLUTION FOR THAT NOW? I MEAN A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THAT NOW? NO. 
          MAYBE WE CAN MAKE ONE. 
          WE CAN MAKE ALL ENCOMPASSING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN ANY OTHER, I ANY OTHER TOPICS ABOUT AND AROUND AGENDA PROCEDURES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHENEY? NO, THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS THE NEXT IS AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REGARDING PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. 
          I THINK WE CLEARED THAT UP. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I FEEL GOOD. 
          WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. 
          WHAT IS YOUR ROLE?  BRIAN? I LIKE MY ROLE. 
           . 
          I MEAN, WHAT NO CHANGES. 
          I, YEAH, I MEAN, THE ONLY THING REALLY IS THAT THEY'RE, UM, EXCLUDED FROM BEING ABLE TO BE AN OFFICER, UM, OF THE BOARD UNDER YOUR BYLAWS. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE WHEN THEY STARTED PUTTING COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE, UH, THE BOARD. 
          AND THERE WAS A, UM, A THOUGHT OR A, A PREFACE THAT IF THERE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE, OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND IT WAS THE, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM, THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH POWER IN ONE PERSON'S HANDS. 
          UM, THAT, THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE, UM, ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          I GET. 
          AND SO, GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY, GEORGE. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO THAT'S, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS, THAT THAT WAS THE RATIONALE THAT WAS USED BACK THEN WHEN THEY DID IT. 
          UM, THAT IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD, HOWEVER THEY'D LIKE TO DO IT. 
          I GUESS MY ONLY THING WITH THAT IS IF THERE IS COMMUNICATION THAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S WHY I'M ON THE BOARD. 
          I DON'T SIT UP HERE ON MONDAYS JUST TO WASTE TIME. 
          I'M ON THE BOARD TO RELAY TO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH CHENEY AND VICE VERSA. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS EMAILS BEING COMMUNICATED, UH, ANY SORT OF CITY COUNCIL NEED OR DESIRE THAT SHOULD GO TO ME VIA EMAIL OR ME VIA CHENEY BACK TO ME. 
          IT SHOULDN'T GO TO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. 
          'CAUSE THEN YOU START TO CREATE THIS, OR SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          'CAUSE THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO CREATE POTENTIALLY A WALKING QUORUM. 
          IF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER KNOWS ONE THING. 
          I KNOW ONE THING, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TELLS ANOTHER PERSON. 
          YOU'RE STARTING TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, THIS GRAY AREA WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND SO I'M THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS BOARD. 
          WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT TO JUST ME. 
          AND WHENEVER I'M OFF THE BOARD, WHOEVER'S SITTING HERE, JUST THEM. 
          BUT I WOULD DISCOURAGE THE BOARD FROM GOING TO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BUT IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EDC, IT SHOULD GO TO ME SINCE I SIT ON THE BOARD. 
          WOULD YOU AGREE, GEORGE? I MEAN THAT HOWEVER, THE, THE, THE BOARD PREFERS IT. 
          UM, I MEAN THERE IS A, A, THERE'S VERY, I MEAN, IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD TURN TO, TO, UM, FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AT THE MEETINGS OR IF THERE'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE, UH, SINCE YOU WERE HERE. 
          THE, UM, BUT AS TO PROHIBITING, IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO PROHIBIT THOSE, UM, DISCUSSIONS, THEN THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BYLAWS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'VE ALWAYS SEEN YOUR ROLE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SAT IN THIS CHAIR, THAT CHAIR BEFORE YOU IS, IS YOU'RE HERE TO BRING THE SENSE OF THE COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          SENSE MAKING BOTH WAYS. 
          IT'S YEAH. 
          BRING THE SENSE OF THE COUNCIL ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES TO US, FOR US TO CONSIDER AND THEN FOR YOU TO GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH, HEY, HERE'S WHAT THE EDC THINKS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, THAT WOULD ALL, ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS TO ADD IN THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ON THE, THE BOARD IS THE LIAISON OF THE BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO IT NOT WRITTEN AS LIAISON NOW? NO. 
          OH, LET'S GET FURTHER, UM, YEAH. 
          INFORMATION AROUND THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          'CAUSE I SEE SOME PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEADS OUT THERE. 
          SO LET'S CIRCLE BACK WITH THAT. 
          THE, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR REGARDING PUBLIC COMMUNITY OR NO, NO, NO. 
          THE 
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ROLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE BOARD, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. 
          THAT, THAT'S HOW IT ALL SHOULD PLAY OUT. 
          IS THERE, UM, IS, IS THE CITY COUNCIL THAT'S MEMBER THAT'S ON THE EDC BOARD, DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING IN LIKE OUR CITY CHARTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT LAYS OUT ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THAT ROLE WORKS? NO. 
          IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW UP TO FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER EMPLOYEES OR ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE CITY TO BE ON THE BOARD. 
          TO BE ON THE BOARD. 
          SO WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE THREE MORE. 
          I THINK YOUR BYLAWS, WELL, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LIMITED KEPT AT TWO, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE LIMITED TO, TO UP TO TWO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CURRENTLY UNDER YOUR BYLAWS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT USED TO SAY NONE. 
          AND THEN, UM, WHAT WAS IT, DO YOU REMEMBER DAN? I DON'T, WERE, WERE YOU, YOU WERE I THINK ON THE BOARD WHEN THEY CHANGED IT, OR YOU HAD JUST GONE ON COUNCIL WHEN THEY, THEY SAID THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD BE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURT. 
          I THINK THAT'S LIKE 21 OR 20, LATE 20 IS WHEN THAT CHANGED. 
          'CAUSE BEFORE IT, IT PROHIBITED COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM BEING ON THE, ON THE BOARD. 
          SO, UM, SO CHAIR, YOU SAID LET'S GET MORE CLARIFICATION. 
          I MEAN, WHAT YES. 
          OTHER CLARIFICATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM, WELL, JUST LEGAL OR FROM STAFF? 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED THEN AS TO WHAT MY ROLE IS. 
          I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS CHIME IN ON EDC MATTERS, WHO ESSENTIALLY AREN'T EVEN HERE, THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING TO ME AS TO WHAT MY ROLE IS. 
          WHAT AM I DOING HERE? MM-HMM . 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION, UM, ON IF THAT IS WHAT CITY CITY COUNCIL IS, EXPECT EXPECTATIONS OF YOU AS WELL AS TO, UM, BE THE LIAISON BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THAT BOARD. 
          WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS OF HIM ARE. 
          WELL, THEY'VE GOTTA APPROVE YOUR BYLAWS. 
          IF, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, AGREE WITH, THEN YOU'RE TAKING THAT RISK. 
          'CAUSE IT HAS TO GO UP THERE AND GET APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. 
          SURE. 
          IT SHOULD. 
          WE, WE MUST MAINTAIN THE INDEPENDENCE, BUT GIVE DEFERENCE TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL HOW WE CAN BEST ASSIST THEM. 
          BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO MAINTAIN ITS INDEPENDENCE. 
          HOWEVER, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AS I'VE SEEN IT HERE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO THEN CAN GO BACK AND MAKE SENSE WHEN HE CAN TALK PUBLICLY ABOUT OUR DISCUSSIONS AND THEN BRING TO US THE FEELINGS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          AND I SUPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD COME UP HERE AND DO OPEN MIC, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? I MEAN, MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO CONSIDER THAT SEPARATELY AS AN ITEM WHERE WE LAY OUT THE TERMS OF THAT LIAISON RELATIONSHIP AND MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR FOR EVERYONE, FOR BOTH US AND CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT AND HOW THAT LOOKS. 
          THAT WAY WE, WE CAN MAYBE AVOID SOME OVER, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OVERREACH MM-HMM . 
          OR SOME POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, QUORUM ISSUES. 
          CAN THE MAYOR CALL AN EDC MEETING? NO. 
          SO, BUT THE, THE, SO WITHOUT, WITHOUT OUR CHAIR AGREEING TO IT, SO SOME OF THE THINGS I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU INFRINGING ON SOMEBODY'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? IF YOU PROHIBIT THEM FROM TALKING TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT EDC BUSINESS? AND THE ANSWER IS NO, FOR TWO REASONS. 
          ONE IS WE'RE NOT A GOVERNMENT ACTOR. 
          WE'RE A NONPROFIT CORPORATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND TWO IS THAT, UM, YOU CAN CREATE LIMITATIONS ON, UM, THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR. 
          AND SO SOME, JUST LIKE, WE DON'T LET YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT GO ON IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT ARE OTHERWISE CONFIDENTIAL. 
          SAME. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE ANOTHER RULE OF CONFIDENTIALITY THAT, THAT OCCURS. 
          UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO, TO, AS A SIGNAL TO, WITHOUT HAVING TO LIMIT EVERYONE HERE, BUT AS A SIGNAL OF THE BOARD, YOU COULD PASS A RESOLUTION THAT DESIGNATES, UH, BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AS THE OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO THAT WAY WHEN WHILE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD ATTEND HERE OR WATCH THE VIDEO OR DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO KNOW, OR IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THEM, FINE, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL CITIZENS HERE. 
          BUT HE WOULD BE OUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT, UM, HE WOULD HAVE THAT RECOGNITION, UM, WHEN HE SPEAKS AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YEAH. 
          I'D RATHER GO THAT ROUTE. 
          AND, BUT BY VIRTUE OF HIM BEING A VOTING MEMBER AND ASSIGNED TO US, HE'S ALSO NOW HAS TO FOLLOW THE FIDUCIARY RULES OF THE, THE SENSITIVITY OF THE MATERIAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO HE CAN'T SPEAK OUT, UH, OUTSIDE OF PROTECTING OUR INTEREST AND THE, AND THE INTERESTS OF THIS BOARD. 
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SO I LIKE, I LIKED THE RESOLUTION BETTER THAN A WELL, AND, AND ABSOLUTELY. 
          WELL, ISN'T THAT WHAT CHENEY'S DOING THOUGH? ISN'T SHE? SHE ALSO GIVES LIAISON TO GO TO, SHE GOES TO THE MEETINGS AND SHE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND TALKS TO THEM PERSON, BUT, BUT HE CAN, BUT SHE, SHE CAN'T GO INTO OUR EXECUTIVE IF THERE'S NOT LIKE A JOINT MEETING JOINT. 
          YEAH, NO, I CAN GO IT'S, WELL, NO, LIKE, IF THERE'S NOT LIKE A, AN ITEM, LIKE A EDC ITEM, BUT ALSO SHE'S OUR, SHE'S OUR ED AND THEY'RE ED TOO. 
          HE IS A VOTING MEMBER, UM, BOARD MEMBER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SORRY. 
          I, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S SOME SENSITIVITIES AROUND WHEN THE BOARD FEELS LIKE THERE ARE ISSUES THAT REQUIRE COUNCIL ATTENTION OR COUNCIL MUSCLE  FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. 
          AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN HOW WE LEVERAGE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS CORPORATION BOARD AND COUNCIL. 
          SINCE WE DO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER, AS A BOARD MEMBER, TO EVERYONE'S POINT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT SHOULD THIS BOARD FEEL LIKE WE NEED COUNSEL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS, WE NEED COUNSEL TO HELP US WITH THIS. 
          WE NEED COUNSEL TO WEIGH IN AND LEAN IN ON THIS ITEM OR THAT ISSUE. 
          IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THAT BE FUNNELED WHO THROUGH WHOMEVER, 1, 2, 3, 4, IN THE FUTURE, WHO KNOWS? COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THIS BOARD. 
          RIGHT? IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? YEP. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON OFFICIALS. 
          SO BACK WHEN I STARTED, THE BOARD HAD ITS OWN EMPLOYEE AND THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE CITY WAS VERY SPARSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THERE WAS A, UM, A, A, UM, BELIEF THAT THERE WOULD BE A, AN ABSOLUTE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          IF THEY PUT A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE BOARD, UM, AND THEN THEY PUT TWO. 
          SO THAT WAY IF ONE'S GONE, THE OTHER ONE'S THERE. 
          SO, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, IS THAT THERE WAS A POOR COMMUNICATION ISSUE. 
          NOW WITH CHENEY IN POSITION AND YOUR OTHERS, THERE'S A MUCH MORE ROBUST COMMUNICATION, UH, BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE, AND THE, YOU'RE HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, THE, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S JUST THE BACKGROUND THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO, TO KNOW WHY THERE'S BOARD MEETING COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO, VIA RESOLUTION AS OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE BYLAWS AND JUST IDENTIFY IT AS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE. 
          A REPRESENTATIVE MM-HMM . 
          JUST TO CODIFY IT THAT WAY. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT GIVES THE, THAT GIVES FUTURE. 
          WE'RE NOT HOLDING HOSTAGE FUTURE EDC BOARD MEMBERS FROM MAKING IT A BYLAW CHANGE OR REVOKING IF WE WANTED TO. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE THE RESOLUTION SHOULD JUST BE AMENDED A LOT EASIER IF THEY WANNA MAKE CHANGE. 
          AND I CAN INCLUDE THAT, THAT HE'S THE DESIGNATED COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE. 
          AND THEN WE COULD ALSO CLARIFY THAT CHENEY AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS OUR, UH, STAFF, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE BOARD. 
          THAT'LL WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON HERE FOR 7.8 IS AUTHORIZATION TO EXPAND FUNDS FOR EXPENSES AS APPROVED IN THE CORPORATION'S BUDGET. 
          DID WE ALREADY TALK ABOUT THAT? NO. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, I THINK. 
          UM, SO THIS CAME FROM, WELL, ACTUALLY, I THINK MAYBE COUNCIL DID ADDRESS THIS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS AND DESIGNATING THINGS AS ROUTINE OR DISCRETIONARY. 
          I THINK I, SINCE I PREPARE THE BUDGET, I JUST NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT CONSTITUTES SOMETHING THAT IS ROUTINE VERSUS DISCRETIONARY. 
          BECAUSE ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SPECIFICALLY IS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE LINE ITEM. 
          EVERY DOLLAR IN Y'ALL'S BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          SO YOUR TOTAL AMOUNT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          SO THE THOUGHT IS, WELL THEN WHY DOES THIS BOARD NEED TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL TO EXPEND THE FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL? SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE CHALLENGE CLEAR IS THAT THAT, UM, THE, THE LAW 5 0 1 0 7 3 A SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT ALL EXPENDITURES OF THIS CORPORATION HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO IF I PUT IN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY WHAT'S CALLED AN APPROPRIATION, IT'S JUST AN EARMARK. 
          I'M GONNA HOLD THIS OVER FOR MY MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. 
          I'M GONNA HOLD THIS OVER FOR, YOU KNOW, MY GAS FUEL. 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET IS. 
          IT'S AN APPROPRIATION. 
          IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN, UH, AN AUTHORIZATION TO USE THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND, AND SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CA, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ALLOCATE, YOU KNOW, $6 MILLION TO CIP, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE, 
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UM, THEY CAN GO SPEND THE $6 MILLION ON CIP WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND THAT SAME THING KIND OF THAT GOES HERE IS THAT, UM, THEY STILL HAVE TO COME OVER AND I WANT 2 MILLION FOR THIS ROAD AND 3 MILLION FOR THIS ROAD. 
          THEY CAN'T JUST GO DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT, THAT MONEY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED AN APPROPRIATION. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE, I, I TRIED TO DO WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE TO MAKE IT EASIER, IS THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GET APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, MOTHER MAY I, FOR EVERY SINGLE THING IS THAT WE COULD IDENTIFY THE ROUTINE EXPENDITURES AND DISCUSS WHAT THOSE ARE IN OUR BUDGET. 
          AND THEN THE DISCRETIONARY ITEMS, THE $6 MILLION FOR INCENTIVES IS A DISCRETIONARY ITEM THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE, HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY OR, OR WHERE IT'S GONNA GO. 
          BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND $65,000 OF OFFICE SUPPLIES, AND WE DO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY FOR THIS SERV THIS PROCESS AND FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE, BECAUSE WE DO IT EVERY YEAR. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND, $50,000 FOR THE HOLIDAY PROGRAM AND, AND MARKETING OR PROMOTIONS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS YOU CAN PUT IN THERE. 
          AND IF WE TELL THEM WHAT IT IS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND IT ON, THEN THEY'VE MADE A KNOWING CHOICE TO APPROVE IT BOTH AS AN APPROPRIATION AND AN EXPENDITURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE AS MONEY FOR. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THOSE ARE DISCRETIONARY. 
          AND SO THOSE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE THE MONEY FOR. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT, THAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN EXPENDITURES AND APPROPRIATIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO NO, GO ON THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SMALL BUSINESS. 
          WE GOTTA TAKE THAT BACK EVERY TIME. 
          WELL, IF, IF YOU, I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM. 
          I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. 
          SO THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. 
          IT'S LIKE THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE FUNDS ARE NOT APPROVED, YOU CAN'T SPEND THEM. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE A $16 BILLION, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL BUDGET, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED FOR THOSE EXPENDITURES TO OCCUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS A REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN TAXATION WITH OR TO AVOID TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU WERE SPENDING SALES TAX MONEY, THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. 
          WITHOUT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO IS SAYING, THIS IS OKAY FOR MY CITIZENS, FOR YOU TO SPEND THIS TAX MONEY THIS WAY, THEN YOU WOULD BE U USING TAX DOLLARS WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, THERE WOULD BE NO CONNECTION WITH YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS BOARD. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THE LEGISLATURE PUT THIS PROVISION IN THERE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAX MONEY THAT'S BEING SPENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY HAVE THAT ROLE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. 
          IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS AROUND THAT? CHANEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          UHUH, THAT WAS, I THINK AS LONG AS Y'ALL ARE GOOD, I THINK GO BEFORE COUNSEL. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WHEN YOU GO BEFORE COUNCIL, I WOULD REPEAT WHAT GEORGE JUST SAID AS A REMINDER OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          YOU HAVE THE DUTY. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET , I TRIED LAST YEAR BECAUSE THERE WERE THINGS THAT HAD CHANGED FROM THE, BECAUSE Y'ALL'S BUDGET HAS TO GET APPROVED, WHAT? 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PLANNED ADOPTION DATE OF THE COUNCIL BUDGET. 
          YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT. 
          SO WHEN WE THINK THEY'RE GONNA APPROVE THE BUDGET, WE BACK INTO THAT 60 DAYS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I USUALLY DO 90 JUST 'CAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GONNA END UP DOING. 
          UM, SO THERE WERE THINGS THAT HAD CHANGED THAT I HAD ASKED THIS CORPORATION FOR FUNDS FOR. 
          AND THEN ONCE I WENT AND GOT CONTRACTS AND NEGOTIATED THINGS DOWN, THOSE AMOUNTS CHANGED. 
          BUT I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL. 
          SO , I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S THEN YOU INTERESTING. 
          GOTTA GO BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TOO. 
          I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT. 
          IF, IF WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT MOST OF THEM, BUT THEN YOU FIND OUT OVER THE FIRST QUARTER THAT THERE'S A HALF A DOZEN OF 'EM THAT WE DIDN'T GET APPROVED AS A, AS ROUTINE, WE CAN MAKE A A A, WE CAN MAKE A REQUEST FOR EXPENDITURE APPROVAL AND GET THOSE SIX APPROVED. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TRANSPARENCY PIECE TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S OUT THERE. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T GET A LOT OF, LOT OF ATTENTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON 7.8 CHAIR? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SUMMARIZE THE TWO OR YOU GOT IT? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A, SO WE HAVE THE, THE 10 DAYS TO 14 DAYS, AND THEN THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATION MM-HMM . 
          REP. 
          IS THAT THE TWO? YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          'CAUSE YOU GUYS ALREADY DID A SEPARATE MOTION RESOLUTION FOR THE DESIGNATED, UH, REPRESENTATION REPRESENTATIVES, AND THEN THE BYLAW CHANGE. 
          BYLAW CHANGE 10 TO 14 DAYS. 
          MM-HMM . 
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YOU CAN DO 'EM SEPARATE UNLESS IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION TO THEM GOING THE SAME, UH, BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER, THEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE THAT, BECAUSE IF, IF THEY'RE TOGETHER, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE ONE OR YOU HAVE APPROVE, NOT, YOU CAN'T SPLIT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THERE IS NOT AN OBJECTION, THEN YOU CAN TAKE BOTH ITEMS ON ONE VOTE. 
          IF, IF NO OBJECTIONS, THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR, FOR BOTH ON ONE VOTE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, I, ONE WILL BE A RESOLUTION CHANGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND THEN GO UPSTAIRS. 
          THE OTHER WILL BE A RESOLUTION TO DESIGNATE BRIAN, OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AND ARE, UM, BUT IF THERE'S OBJECTIONS REPRESENTATIVE AND Y'ALL WANNA SEPARATE IT, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT THAT WAS MY MOTION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE THEM. 
          IT DIES WITHOUT A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE IN THE, WELL NO, WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE ABILITY TO, TO VOTE. 
          UM, IF ANYBODY OBJECTS, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE 'EM SEPARATELY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE 10 DAY TO 14 DAY CHANGE TO THE BYLAWS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          . 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
           FIRST BY, UH, TREASURER HENRY G GIDEON. 
          AND THEN SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN. 
          UM, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MM. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY NAY. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN. 
          MINTON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN? AYE. 
          NOT EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          UH, SIX ONE. 
          AND THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE, UM, RESOLUTION FOR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES OF COUNCIL AND STAFF REPRESENTATIVES. 
          SO, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, IS THIS, UM, DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, IS THIS GONNA BE ADDED TO OUR BYLAWS OR IS THIS A ADDED TO A RESOLUTION? THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WILL COME BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS JUST A MOTION TO DIRECT YOUR OKAY. 
          LEGAL COUNSEL TO DEVELOP THE RESOLUTION CHAIR. 
          I, I MOVE, WE DIRECT, UH, STAFF TO DEVELOP A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE SITTING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE BOARD AS THE DESIGNATED COUNCIL LIAISON. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A FIRST, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY, UH, VICE CHAIR MATTMAN. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND IT. 
          SECOND IRMA. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER IRMA GONZALEZ. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ME? I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          7.9. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF A SUB SUBCOMMITTEE TO EVALUATE ALTERNATIVE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE CORPORATION AFTER. 
          SO IF I MAY, AFTER FURTHER DIS OR CONSIDERATION, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND WE'LL PUT ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS EXPECTATIONS. 
          THIS IS 7.9 AND BECAUSE THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE, UM, COMMITTEES OR SUB OR, OR AD HOC COMMITTEES IS SOLELY WITH THE, THE CHAIR, UH, THIS ITEM WOULD BE TABLED. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ALONG TO SEVEN POINT 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE DRAFT INCENTIVES APPLICATION FORM. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THIS ITEM IS BACK FROM LAST TIME, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE EXTRA TIME TO REVIEW. 
          UM, STAFF PROVIDED SOME COMMENTARY ON IT, UM, WITH REGARD TO WHAT EXACTLY STAFF IS NEEDING INPUT ON. 
          SO, UM, THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREAS IN THERE IS REALLY WHAT I NEED SOME CLARITY ON. 
          UM, WHAT YOU WANT INCLUDED AND IN WHAT CAPACITY. 
          AND THEN THE, THE BULK OF THE FORM IS REALLY JUST FOR YOUR REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION FROM AN APPLICANT IS INCLUDED. 
          LIKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SOMEONE APPLYING FOR AN INCENTIVE IS INCLUDED IN THERE. 
          UM, ANY 
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INPUT YOU HAVE ON THE FLOW AND KIND OF SEQUENCE OF QUESTIONS, ET CETERA, UH, HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, UH, BACK AS WELL. 
          UM, SO BASED ON YOUR INPUT, THEN WE WOULD PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION FORM AND GET IT READY FOR PUBLICATION ON THE WEBSITE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, AS I SHARED EARLIER, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE COUNSEL INPUT AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS. 
          AND ONE APPLICATION FOR ALL THE THREE EIGHTIES WOULD BE SUPREME AS A FIRST DRAFT. 
          I THINK YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, . 
          THANKS. 
          BUT WHAT YOU GOT? OH, I MEAN I, OH, THAT'S IT. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN, I, I'M SPEAKING MORE TO MY OWN INEXPERIENCE HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD CHANGE THIS TO IMPROVE IT ANY, LIKE, I I CAN YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE, YOU, YOU MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, HEY, DO WE NEED SOME BULLET POINTS HERE? WE MADE THIS SHORTER. 
          I'M LIKE, UH, SOME PROS IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          I WOULD THINK TO FULLY EXPLAIN WHAT WE EXPECT OF APPLICANTS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          UM, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I READ THROUGH IT A FEW TIMES. 
          IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THAT AND SAY, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED THIS. 
          OR HEY, LET'S ADD THIS THING UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET IT. 
          USE, GET IT, START USING IT. 
          USE MM-HMM . 
          GET USING IT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          AND THEN I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR FEEDBACK. 
          YOU WANT, IT'S THE APPLICANT'S FEEDBACK THAT YOU WANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LIKE, MAN, THIS IS, THIS IS ONEROUS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I HATE USING THIS, THIS IS CRAP. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL THEN MAYBE THAT'S A SIGNAL THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THE PEOPLE USING THIS FORM, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          IT'S GONNA BE THE PEOPLE APPLYING FOR, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, INCENTIVE AND YOU MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO SOMETIMES I THINK THAT SOME BUSINESSES, IF THEY'RE NEW, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO SOME OF THIS, THIS WAS TO ENCAPSULATE EVERYTHING THAT WOULD, THAT COULD BE ASKED. 
          SO WHEN WE FORMAT IT FOR THE WEBSITE, IF THEY SELECT THAT THERE A NEW BUSINESS, THEN THAT WILL SKIP SKIP IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IS THAT CALLED? SMART SOMETHING OR OTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'LL SKIP TO THE APPROPRIATE SECTIONS. 
          AND THEN CONVERSELY, IF THEY'RE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, IT'S GONNA ASK ABOUT EXPANSION. 
          WELL, IF IT'S A FIRST TIME BUSINESS, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK ABOUT EXPANSION STUFF LINK THROUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'LL, IT'LL HOP THROUGH SO IT'LL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. 
          THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO EITHER TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THE QUESTION APPLIES TO THEM OR TRY TO PUT NA IN 10 DIFFERENT SPOTS. 
          CAN I, IF, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          CAN I JUST, SORRY. 
          IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THIS LOOKS GREAT AND I WOULD LOVE FOR, IF IT'S OKAY IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH WORK, BUT IF YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FIRST PERSONS THAT'S USING THIS, THEIR FIRST BUSINESS OR WHATEVER, UM, IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LIKE EASY FOR THEM ON THE, ON THE, ON THE USER SIDE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THIS AND, AND THERE'S HICCUPS THAT THE, THAT WE MIGHT NOT KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF FOR THEM YEAH. 
          IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. 
          WE'RE, YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE TURS APPLICATION THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          WE HAVE OUR, OUR GUINEA PIG PROJECT, OUR GUA PIG APPLICANT. 
          THIS A COUPLE EARLIER WOULD BE GOOD GUINEA PIGS ON THIS ONE. 
          UM, I, I DO NOTIF OR NOTICE THAT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO, UH, INCORPORATE A FEW THINGS THAT RESERVE YOUR DISCRETION ON ANY PROJECT SO THAT IF IT DOESN'T MEET A PARTICULAR CRITERIA, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU FEEL THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY NEEDS AND YOU CAN DO IT, THEN, THEN YOU CAN, YOU HAVE THAT EXCEPTION. 
          UM, ALSO, UM, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME ATTACHMENTS. 
          FOR INSTANCE, I, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY NON-BUSINESS ENTITIES THAT HAVE LLC BUT HAVE NEVER BEEN CREATED IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. 
          AND YOU WILL SPEND, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO ON THIS WEBSITE, PULL THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S INFORMATION, IDENTIFY WHETHER THEY'RE A FOREIGN CORPORATION OR NOT. 
          IF THEY ARE, ARE THEY, UH, ABLE TO DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS OR ULTIMATELY WE STOP A PROJECT BECAUSE THERE IS NO BUSINESS CALLED SUCH AND SUCH LLC. 
          AND SO WE SAY YOU NEED TO GO GET YOUR LLC BEFORE WE SIGN THIS AGREEMENT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH A COMPANY THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          UH, AND SO IF, IF THEY WERE JUST TO ADD THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION FROM THE, UH, SECRETARY OF STATE, THAT'LL SAVE US AN HOUR OF REVIEW. 
          YEAH. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNDER SECTION FIVE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, CHENEY? WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF THEY HAVE A W NINE, WOULDN'T THEY BE WELL, AND THEN NUMBER THREE SAYS PROOF OF BUSINESS REGISTRATION SLASH FORMATION DOCUMENTS. 
          WOULD THAT, THAT WOULD, WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH? THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE I JUST, I JUST HAVEN'T NOT HAD. 
          YOU SHOULD BE REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT THOUGH. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR STATE 
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AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR EIN YEAH. 
          AND SO YOUR EIN WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD PUT ON YOUR W NINE. 
          SO YEAH, SO MAYBE, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FEDERAL EIN DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION FROM STATE MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S COVERED UNDER THREE WHAT SHE'S SAYING. 
          SO I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE W NINE, WHICH IS THE EI THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT MM-HMM . 
          CHAIR CLANCY'S REFERRING TO NUMBER THREE UNDER THERE THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS PROOF OF BUSINESS REGISTRATION SLASH FORMATION DOCUMENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO SH SHOULD WE BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT? I'M JUST SAYING, SHOULD WE SAY FROM THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE FORMATION? JUST 'CAUSE IF YOU, YOU'RE A NEW BUSINESS OR ABILITY TO DO BUSINESS, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, 'CAUSE UH, IF YOU'RE A FOREIGN CORPORATION AND YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS IN TEXAS, YOUR FORMATION ISN'T IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S THE CERTIFICATE OF AUTHORIZATION TO DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUSINESS RES RE RESIDENT OR REGISTRATION, UH, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE, IF HU HAS A RULE THAT SAYS EVERY BUSINESS HAS TO PAY 25 BUCKS TO BE HERE AND THEY'VE NEVER SPENT ANY TIME IN, IN HUDU YET BECAUSE THE, OR THE LLC IS BEING CREATED FOR THE PROJECT, THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ONE OF THOSE. 
          UM, SO I, A LITTLE BIT OF FINESSE I GUESS, OR TWEAKING OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, A GREAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL EVEN CALL IT A FINAL DRAFT. 
          IT JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF TWEAKS. 
          IT'S, I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION IN IT. 
          I HAVE TWO, TWO OTHER THINGS, UM, IF I MAY. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK IF THEY ARE, IF THEY'RE, AND MAYBE THIS WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION, BUT IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT ON, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR BUSINESS THAT WE KNOW IF THEY LEASE OR OWN THE PROPERTY AND IF THEY, AND WHAT THOSE TERMS ARE, IF THEY LEASE AND MAYBE EVEN COPIES OF, YOU KNOW, THOSE DOCUMENTS, JUST TO VERIFY THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THINGS THAT WE MIGHT FUND. 
          UM, POTENTIALLY. 
          AND THEN ALSO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE A, A CLICK OUT LINK TO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TYPE A TYPE B RULES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO FUND. 
          UM, MAYBE SOME, YOU KNOW, LINKS OUT TO WHERE THAT LAW IS WRITTEN OR IF THERE'S SOME OTHER USER FRIENDLY, UM, WHERE SOMEONE COULD LOOK AND SAY, OH, OKAY, WELL I DON'T REALLY QUALIFY FOR THAT. 
          SO THEN WE DON'T END UP WITH ALL THESE APPLICATIONS TO VET AND, AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING MAD BECAUSE NOBODY GETS TO, YOU KNOW, GET ANYTHING. 
          BUT BASICALLY LIKE A SETTING EXPECTATIONS DOCUMENT, RIGHT? LIKE ON TOP OF THIS, THIS HERE BY LAW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO FUND. 
          BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO WANT IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT WHAT THE FUND, LIKE WHAT THE CORPORATION'S LIMIT IS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT EXPECTATION COMING TO US. 
          OH, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. 
          THIS MAY OR MAY NOT GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. 
          WE MAY NEED TO REPRIORITIZE AND DO THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          JUST, I MEAN THAT MIGHT ADD SOME URGENCY IN GETTING APPLICATIONS, BUT THAT MAY ALSO, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          HELP PEOPLE TO PRIORITIZE COMING TO US. 
          I'LL NEVER FORGET MY TOILET REBATE ONLY GOT UP UNTIL THE MONEY WAS GONE. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION LIKE IN NEXT STEPS, UM, IT DOES DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR TALK ABOUT THAT THE VETTING PROCESS. 
          IT SAYS THE APPLICATION WILL ALSO BE VETTED BY KEY DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS FINANCE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, AND REAL ESTATE SERVICES. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF VETTING PROCESS THAT GOES ON. 
          AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS BOARD TO KNOW WHAT THAT VETTING PROCESS IS AND UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING BEFORE IT COMES TO US. 
          WOULD YOU, WOULD, WOULD EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT VETTING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE OR, I THINK IT'S A CASE BY CASE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE SET PROCESS, BUT I DEFER TO STAFF BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ARE KIND OF INVOLVED, RIGHT? IT SAYS THE FINANCE, DEVELOPMENT, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, REAL ESTATE SERVICES, ARE THOSE ALL, IS IT VETTED THROUGH ALL OF THOSE? IS EVERY PROJECT VETTED THROUGH ALL OF THAT? OR IS IT NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC? SO LIKE HU WINE BAR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE VETTED THROUGH ENGINEERING NECESSARILY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT THEY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR PROCESS, THEY MAY BE VETTED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE THEY APPLIED FOR THEIR PERMITS? UM, RIGHT. 
          WE NEED TO, IF THEY WERE THE BUILDING OWNER, THEY MAY BE VETTED THROUGH FINANCE. 
          ARE THEY ON ZACK TAX? DO THEY, ARE THEY APPROVED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE? ARE THEY REPORTING SALES TAX ANYWHERE ELSE? SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT IS APPLICABLE TO THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          NOW WHAT DOES THE BOARD THINK ABOUT HAVING UH, SOME METHOD OF A DETERMINATION OF AN APPLICATION FEE? UM, ALL OF THOSE PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING YOUR LEGAL, 
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UM, IS, GETS INVOLVED IN THESE. 
          UM, I WAS WORKING WITH A, ANOTHER NEARBY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ABOUT A DECADE AGO. 
          AND UM, WHEN, WHENEVER SOMEBODY ASKED FOR MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS IN INCENTIVES, WE WANTED A $50,000 UM, UH, APPLICATION FEE. 
          AND THAT WAS TO COVER THOSE THINGS LIKE ENGINEERING WHICH WOULD WENT OUT OF THE CITY. 
          SO IT WAS A COST LEGAL THAT WENT OUT TO THE CITY 'CAUSE IT WAS A COST. 
          SO THAT IN VETTING THESE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS A MILLION OR $2 MILLION, IF THEY DON'T HAVE 50 GRAND TO PUT UP FOR 2 MILLION BUCKS, THEN DO YOU, ARE THEY REALLY GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT PERSON TO BE ABLE TO DO WORK? BUT WITH OUR, WITH OUR LIMIT AND PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING, LIKE HOW MUCH MORE WE HAVE IN THE BANK, I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE A SET AMOUNT WOULD BE, WOULD BE SMART BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT GET ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE RAN OUTTA MONEY. 
          THEY MAY GET, YOU KNOW, HALF OR, YOU KNOW, SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MORE MONEY. 
          SO THEN PUTTING LIKE A, A CAP ON IT, I WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT DOING THAT PERCENT. 
          WELL I, I JUST, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU DO ON THE INITIAL APPLICATION IS, IS THAT UM, IF A FEE FOR PURPOSES OF PROCESSING YOUR APPLICATION IS NECESSARY ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, YOUR, YOUR PROJECT AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS MUCH MONEY, IT'S GONNA TAKE THESE THINGS. 
          IF IT'S JUST THE WINE BAR, YOU MAY NOT HAVE MUCH OF AN APPLICATION. 
          I WANT TO HEAR FROM STEP. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          TWO THINGS ON THAT ONE, AGAIN, REMINDER, THIS APPLICATION IS FOR ALL THREE 80 INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS. 
          AND SO TO YOUR POINT, UH, BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE LINE ITEM. 
          SO THIS COULD BE ANOTHER LIKE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES THAT RETAIL CENTER DEVELOPMENT MAY COME FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S OUR PRO FORMA, HERE'S OUR PROJECTIONS. 
          WE WANT $8 MILLION. 
          THAT'S NOT BUDGETED FOR, BUT THAT'S WHERE OUR CASH FLOWS AND FINANCE CAN COME IN AND SAY, OKAY, YES YOU CAN HANDLE THAT. 
          OR THAT'S GONNA BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY COUNCIL WITH THEIR SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE COMPONENTS OF THE INCENTIVE OR PERFORMANCE BASED. 
          RIGHT? AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH TOO NARROW OF A LENS. 
          'CAUSE THEN WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE SITUATION OF HAVING AN APPLICATION FOR EVERYTHING. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THING. 
          THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO, UM, BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN'S IDEA ABOUT PUTTING SOME KIND OF, WHAT ARE WE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE? SO THAT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE, ON THE INCENTIVES PAGE ABOVE WHERE THE LINK IS TO APPLY. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE SOME CONTEXT BEFORE THEY, WELL HOPEFULLY IF THEY READ  RIGHT BEFORE THEY CLICK. 
          SO THAT WILL BE THERE. 
          THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS ONCE YOU GET INTO THE APPLICATION, WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT EXTERNAL SITES WE CAN LINK TO BECAUSE THE APPLICATION FORM IS HOUSED ON CIVIC SERVE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES, I WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BE LIKE NEXT TO THE, NEXT TO THE APPLICATION LINK. 
          NOT IN THE APPLICATION. 
          GOT YOU. 
          YES. 
          BUT I MEAN, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DIRECT STAFF TO GET MORE, UM, SORT OF INDUSTRY STANDARD, UM, APPLICATION FEES, MAYBE JUST RESEARCH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, LIKE A FEE SCHEDULE OR SOMETHING? I THINK THAT WE CAN, YEAH. 
          BEFORE WE EVEN GET THERE, I THINK I NEED TO CHECK WITH FINANCE TO SEE WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE FOR CHARGING FEES ON AN APPLICATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WHO GETS THOSE FEES? BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THREE EIGHTIES, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETIMES ONLY THE CORPORATION, SOMETIMES ONLY CITY AND SOMETIMES BOTH OF YOU. 
          AND SO WHERE DO THOSE FEES GO? RIGHT? UH, AND HOW ARE WE PROCESSING THOSE? BECAUSE THAT ADDS AGAIN, ANOTHER ELEMENT TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          AND I WOULD BET THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA DELAY OURSELVES ABOUT SIX MONTHS JUST BY ADDING THAT FEATURE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT CIVIC SERVICE IS CAPABLE OF AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE INSIDE THE CITY THAT WE COULD ALIGN THIS. 
          BUT IS IT NOT SOMETHING WE COULD JUST LOOK AT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? I MEAN, WE DON'T JUST BECAUSE WE LOOK INTO IT AND WE SEE YEAH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT IT LIKE RIGHT AWAY. 
          HAPPY. 
          YES. 
          HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT. 
          JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT OUT THERE THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DEFINITELY WANT INCLUDED, WE'RE GONNA PUSH THIS BACK. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S PHASE TWO OF THE APPLICATION OR PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR. 
          BUT I JUST THINK THAT IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE SITTING THERE, IF WE'RE SITTING ON $0 WHERE WE COULD BE SITTING ON APPLICATION FEES TO COVER LEGAL AND COVER SOME OF THESE EXPENSES AND OTHER CITIES ARE ALREADY GETTING, WHY ARE WE NOT, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY WOULDN'T WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO PURSUE THAT AS WELL? HU DOES DOING IT. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF YOU WANT A, IF YOU WANT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THEN THERE IS A LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FEE THAT'S, THAT IS REQUIRED TO GET A 14 POINT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS 
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BID. 
          RIGHT? UM, AND, AND SO THE CITY'S DOING IT RIGHT NOW WITH OTHER TYPES OF LAND USE RELATED APPLICATIONS. 
          PUBLIC, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE ALL THE OUTSIDE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THE ENGINEERING AND DOING THE LEGAL IS GETTING PAID BY THE APPLICANT MM-HMM . 
          UM, IN A FORM OF AN APPLICATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO ALL THIS REAL ESTATE, SO I'M, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PULLING FROM THAT PART, MOVE IT OVER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT COST ON YOUR OWN. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          GEORGE. 
          YOU JUST LOOKING INTO IT AGAIN, LIKE IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE EDC. 
          SO THEN HOW ARE WE DESIGNATING IN THE APPLICATION? LIKE, YOU GET THIS MUCH OF THE FEE OR IF YOU SELECT THIS IN THE APPLICATION, THEN IT KICKS OVER TO THIS. 
          I JUST, I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD, HOW, HOW DO THEY DO IT RIGHT NOW? IT ALL GOES TO ONE. 
          WELL IT'S KIND OF LIKE CHENEY. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE $50,000 IN FUNDS MM-HMM . 
          THE EVENTS AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL WE KNOW IT'S BEEN 150,000 AND NOW THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SO WHERE DOES IT GO, BLAH BLAH BLAH. 
          AND SO I THINK AS WE GROW AS A CITY, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE UP TO STAFF TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOLUTIONS. 
          LIKE IF, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T, THE, THE DIFFICULTNESS OF IT SHOULDN'T BE A REASON FOR US TO NOT CONSIDER IT AS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WE MAY WANNA DO IN THE FUTURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          BUT I THINK IF ONE OF YOUR ARGUMENTS IS THAT WE'RE PAYING ALL THIS STAFF TIME TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS, WELL YOU'RE ALSO PAYING ALL THIS STAFF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SORT THAT STUFF OUT AND COME UP WITH THOSE SOLUTIONS TOO, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO THINK BUT THERE MAY BE ROI ON THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, SO WHEN IT IS A FEE FROM A CITY, IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN THE ACTUAL COST OF TAX, OTHERWISE IT BECOMES AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL TAX. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE NOT A CITY, SO WE CAN SET AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDS. 
          NOW, THE CITY ITSELF, YOU MAY WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GOING TO PAY $500 TO LAND OR TO ENGINEERING FOR THEIR REVIEW AND $500 FOR THIS OR THAT. 
          AND THO THOSE ARE ALLOCATIONS. 
          AND THEN IF YOU'RE USING OUTSIDE ENGINEERS OR OUTSIDE LEGAL, THEN YOU CHARGE 'EM FOR, YOU TAKE A A, AN ESCROW AMOUNT AND YOU CHARGE 'EM FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I DO IN OTHER CITIES WHERE I'M CITY ATTORNEY. 
          YEAH. 
          I I THINK WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CAPTURE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE FEE TO PAY FOR PEOPLE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN THEY RIGHT. 
          NOT UPFRONT, BUT WE DO GET TO CAPTURE IF WE WANT 0.5% FEE FOR A A, SOME, SOMEBODY LIKE THAT SMALL BUSINESS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A, YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY IN THE GAME, IT'S A FEE. 
          IT'LL GO INTO THE EDCS COFFERS AND IT'LL GO THROUGH THE, THE THE, THE REVIEW PROCESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I DON'T, I JUST THINK THAT RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT, IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          ESPECIALLY OUR SIZE AND, AND BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL DIRECTION OTHER EDCS ARE DOING JUST TO SEE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE COMPETITIVE. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BE LIKE, WE COST $50,000 TO, YOU KNOW, FILE AN APPLICATION HERE IF THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF OTHER CITIES ARE, ARE TAKING ON SOME LEVEL, THEN I THINK MAYBE IT WOULDN'T HURT FOR US TO ASK AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND FIND OUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, FOR INSTANCE, PROLOGIS PAID 50 GRAND 'CAUSE WE, WE NEGOTIATED THAT IN THE CONTRACT WHEN WE GAVE, GOT THEM THE OPTION TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY FOR THE, FOR SKYBOX. 
          THAT'S AN EXAMPLE, REAL LIFE HERE WHERE THE, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME WE DID IT THROUGH NEGOTIATE THE NEGOTIATION PHASE AND HAD THAT PAID OFF. 
          SO OKAY. 
          SO MAYBE THAT CAN BE A FUTURE I AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION OF UM, APPLICATION FEES, APPLICATION APPLIC FEES. 
          YEAH. 
          GET MORE RESEARCH. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          BUT AT LEAST GIVE HER DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD AT LEAST ON THE, YEAH. 
          DID EVERYONE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AROUND IT OR ANY OTHER, UM, SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING TO THE TABLE? I THINK THE SOONER SHE CAN GO, LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT A FANTASTIC JOB AND THEN WE'LL INCLUDE THE CERTIFICATE TO BUSINESS IN TEXAS AND DOCTOR THEN DO THEY LEASE OR OWN THEIR PROPERTY. 
          LIKE IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO THAT WITHOUT IT BEING LIKE SCREWING UP THE FORM? AND I USED TO BE, I USED TO GET ON THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE WEBSITE, THAT IS THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE THING TO NAVIGATE. 
          SO I KNOW WHAT HE MEANS WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT'S BAD. 
          I CAN'T, I HAD AN LLC FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, I COULDN'T EVEN CANCEL IT. 
          SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH, UH, THE DRAFT INCENTIVE APPLICATION FORM WITH THE DISCUSS CHANGES IN OUR DISCUSSION. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT BACK OR AM I AUTHORIZED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT EVERYONE FELT FINE ABOUT MOVING AUTHORIZED FORWARD, AUTHORIZED TO MAKE, MAKE CHA AUTHORIZED, MOVE FORWARD 
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CHANGES AUTHORIZED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          ALTIMETERS SECOND. 
          OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BRIAN THOMPSON, BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON AND SECONDED BY TREASURER, I MEAN SECRETARY, UM, TERRENCE OWENS. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? OKAY, MAY I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? YES, AS SOON AS I FIND IT. 
          SO MANY NOTES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN MINTON AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          7 0 7 POINT 11. 
          SORRY, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT ITEM? UH, THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED ACTION, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM DETAILS. 
          THAT WAS THE VERY LAST PAGE. 
          UM, AND I THINK GOING BACK TO HAVING SOME LANGUAGE AROUND WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE, IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL FOR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TARGETING AND MAYBE FOR THE CORPORATION TO ALSO HAVE CONSENSUS AMONG THE TYPES OF INDUSTRY OR BUSINESSES. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT I PUT TOGETHER BASED ON SOME REPORTS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING KIND OF GAPS IN OUR CURRENT SERVICES. 
          UM, AND, AND OPTIONS AROUND DINING AND SHOPPING AND QUALITY OF LIFE THINGS, UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE ANCIENT ART OF FACEBOOK SEARCHING, UM, , LOTS OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT, UM, COMMUNITY PAGES, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ON HERE THAT IS OUT OF BOUNDS? AND THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO INCENTIVIZE OR THE ONLY THINGS THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER, BUT IT DOES GIVE SOME KIND OF ARMS AROUND OR SOME BUMPERS AROUND PEOPLE BRINGING STUFF THAT'S OUTTA LINE OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE TO THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING. 
          LIKE, OH HU DO WANTS A BEAUTY SUPPLY STORE. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          WELL I'VE BEEN DOING THAT OVER IN PFLUGERVILLE AND MAYBE I'LL EXPAND TO HUDDLE NEXT, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO I THINK IT JUST HELPS INFORM A POTENTIAL APPLICANT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WOULD CONSIDER INCENTIVIZING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DO WE HAVE NAIL SALONS ON THE LIST? YES. 
          ALL OVER THE PLACE ALONG WITH DENTISTS AND CHIROPRACTORS. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          . 
          YEAH, I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS LIST LOOKS GOOD. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT US TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION AROUND IT OR JUST GIVE DIRECTION THAT THIS IS IT OUR CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE? I FEEL I FEEL FINE WITH DIRECTION IF THE BOARD'S FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A POLICY AND IT'S NOT AS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EASY TO, LIKE, IS IT, IT'S GONNA BE ON THE WEBSITE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EASY IF WE, AFTER WE GET THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING, SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S ADD THIS, LET'S TAKE THAT OFF, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T, IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE AN ACT OF GOD TO CHANGE IT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND AS WE GET SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE GONNA WANNA REVISE IT TOO. 
          OR AS WE GET OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THEN WE CAN MASSAGE THE LIST. 
          I JUST WANNA PUT SOMETHING UP THERE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK IT'S GREAT. 
          I THINK IT'S, THANK YOU. 
          IN THE FUTURE YOU MAY WANNA WRITE THAT. 
          YEAH, I, IT LOOKS GREAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, WELL, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S LY IT'S THE THREE 80 YEAH. 
          APPLICATION. 
          'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THE FORM ALSO, SO IT'LL ALL GO THERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA ADD SOME STUFF TO THAT TOO, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SEVEN POINT 11? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN EVENT VENUE IN THE CITY OF HUDU. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS IS JUST TO PRIME THE PUMP FOR Y'ALL. 
          THERE'S NO, NOT NECESSARILY ANY FORMAL ACTION, BUT, UM, IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN, UH, PAYING ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS FOR A FEW MONTHS, UM, AROUND SOME OF OUR NONPROFITS NOT HAVING ADEQUATE SPACE FOR THEIR EVENTS, UM, I GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE SEVENTH ANNUAL SUPER BOWL WITH HRC THIS LAST WEEKEND, THAT THEY'RE KIND OF RUNNING OUTTA SPACE THERE TOO. 
          SO, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO HELP GIVE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS THAT THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS MAY WANT TO, OR BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN A LARGER SPACE, BUT ALSO TO CREATE SOME REVENUE GENERATION AND TOURISM CATALYSTS. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE AN EVENT VENUE OUT ON ADAM MORGAN. 
          WE HAVE LAND THERE, THERE'S 
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PLENTY OF PARKING. 
          IT'S BEAUTIFUL SCENERY. 
          SO IT LENDS ITSELF WELL TO PHOTOGRAPHY, WHICH IS ALWAYS A PART OF BIG CELEBRATIONS, WEDDINGS, QUINCEANERAS, ANNIVERSARIES, UM, EVEN CORPORATE MEETING RETREATS OR CORPORATE, UH, RETREATS RATHER. 
          UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN EXPLORING, UH, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY HOT FUNDS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN EVENT VENUE THUS SPRINGING IN TOURISM AND OVERNIGHT GUESTS. 
          SO THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT ONLY THE BOARD WOULD BE SPEARHEADING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS BEING DISCUSSED, AND I THINK THERE'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. 
          I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ABOUT, UM, SOME BARNDOMINIUM STYLE THAT WOULD KIND OF FIT THE AESTHETICS OUT THERE AT THE PARK. 
          UM, THEY HAVE SOME PREFAB LIKE KITS THAT YOU CAN GET, SO THEN WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PAYING, UH, IN TIME AND MONEY FOR EXTENSIVE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          WE WOULD REALLY BE MORE ON THE TWEAKING THE CURRENT DESIGN AND THEN GETTING IT DELIVERED AND THEN SECURING ACTUAL LABOR TO CONSTRUCT IT. 
          UM, SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          ISN'T MOST OF THAT FLOOD BASIN? MM-HMM. 
          YOU SURE? YEAH. 
          I'M SURE WE HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE OUT THERE. 
          WELL, JUST BECAUSE IT'S OUT THERE, LIKE THE, THE, THE CONCERT THAT THAT CAN SURVIVE A FLOOD. 
          THE OLD BARN OR THE OLD HOMESTEAD WAS THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S IN FLOODPLAIN ATLAS 14 IS THIS. 
          THANKS TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THIS, THANKS TO ATLAS 14. 
          SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF PRELIMINARY VETTING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THIS, AND WE LOOK LIKE WE HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT. 
          WOULD WE GO CLOSER TO BROOKLYN'S OR MAYBE STR IT'D BE GREAT IF IT COULD OVERLOOK BRUSHY CREEK. 
          I MEAN, BUT THERE, AND THERE'S ALREADY A BUILDING OUT THERE. 
          YOU WANT PLANE OR YOU WANT IN THE CREEK, LIKE . 
          WELL, THAT, THAT WAS THERE HISTORICALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I MEAN, THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE, LIKE, COULD THAT JUST BE EXPANDED INTO SOMETHING BIGGER? I THAT'S PROBABLY THE HIGHEST GROUND RIGHT THERE, ISN'T IT? THINK PROBABLY TO COME DOWN. 
          JUST, YEAH. 
          IT'S, YOU GOTTA ADD A STRUCTURE TO SOMETHING THAT OLD DO. 
          YOU SCRAPE IT AND JUST PUT SOMETHING NEW THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          FEEL SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE SUITABLE, YOU LEAVE THAT FAIR AND YOU JUST BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. 
          I, I MEAN, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT I HEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 
          I KNOW COUNCIL HAS SHARED BEFORE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE HUDU EVENTS THAT HAVE TO GO TO PFLUGERVILLE OR ROUND ROCK OR SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH EVENT SPACE TO HOST THEIR EVENTS. 
          I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE LOVE TO HAVE IN HUDU. 
          I KNOW THE CHAMBER'S BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE OUR EVENTS IN IN HURO. 
          WE'D LOVE TO HAVE OUR GALA IN HURO. 
          WE'D HAVE LOVE TO HAVE MORE OTHER EVENTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A SPACE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE ON A MAYBE A DESIGN DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT WHEELHOUSE, THIS THING NEEDS TO BE A SPILL OUT. 
          THIS THING NEEDS TO BE, UH, MULTIPURPOSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND FLEXIBLE. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND VOLUNTEERING IF IT, IF IT COMES TO THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          MAYBE SOME KIND OF A COMMITTEE, LIKE A JOINT COMMITTEE LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH MIDWAY, UM, WITH D WITH PARKS AND PUBLIC WORK, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          WITH JUST SEEING AND MAYBE A CITY COUNCIL OR CITY COUNCIL. 
          WELL, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE GROUND ROCK AND VILLE DON'T ALREADY HAVE THESE SORTS OF SPACES IN THEIR PARKS AND RECS. 
          LIKE YOU GO TO, UH, OLD SETTLERS, I KNOW THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF EVENT VENUES THERE, AND IT'S NOT JUST OLD SETTLERS, BUT THERE'S OTHER PARKS THAT HAVE EVENT VENUES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR AND DO A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO DO YEAH. 
          TO FIND. 
          AND WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS NICE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT POINTS OF REFERENCE TO, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY THE HU COMMUNITY. 
          CELLINO HAS BEEN USED BY THE ISD AND THE HU EDUCATION FOUNDATION MANY TIMES. 
          UH, IT IS CLOSED NOW, BUT, UH, L OAK BARN JUST INTO ROUND ROCK'S. 
          ETJ OVER THERE, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HU UH, IS A, WAS A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AND, YOU KNOW, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? UH, BAR BARN, OUR DOMINION BARN. 
          BARN BARN. 
          PREFAB BUILDING. 
          I'VE BEEN TO A, AN A VENUE THAT WAS A BIG BARN AND THEY FIXED IT UP. 
          IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS LIKE, GOT A WHOLE BOARD ON TABLES, THE MEAL. 
          IT WAS LIKE CATERED. 
          IT WAS AMAZING. 
          I COULD SEE HOW THAT COULD WORK HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, CHANEY, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID EARLIER, LIKE HRC, YOU KNOW, IN MY DEALINGS WITH SOME OF THE NONPROFITS, I THINK A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S NOT DESIGNATED FOR ONE PARTICULAR RIGHT. 
          CAN BE GREAT. 
          WELL, AND I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL. 
          THIS IS NOT A COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          NO, NO, I'M, IT'S NOT A REC REC CENTER. 
          THIS IS AN VENUE. 
          THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT HUDDLE, EDUCATION FOUNDATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, ALWAYS, ALWAYS GOING TO ROUND ROCK. 
          ALWAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALWAYS TRYING TO CELEBRATE OUR TEACHERS WITH DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          I JUST THINK, YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          I LOVE THIS 
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IDEA. 
          AND I THINK IT, IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED IN OUR CITY. 
          AND I THINK THAT MULTIPLE BOARDS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          HOWEVER, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, ARE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE, WE ASKED, UM, TO BRING TO THE TABLE, LIKE, WHAT'S GOING, HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND LIKE THE EVENTS OR PRO OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE, OR INITIATIVES THEY'RE GOING AFTER, AND HOW CAN WE FACILITATE THAT WITH OUR BUDGET AS WELL? AND SO IF THIS IS LIKE A PROJECT THAT, LIKE, WE'RE WONDERING WHY THIS PROJECT IS ON THE, UM, THE AGENDA INSTEAD OF ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE KI WE COULD BE PARTNERING WITH, WITH THE CITY. 
          JUST THE TIMELINESS OF IT. 
          IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED PRETTY PUBLICLY, PRETTY REGULARLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO AS A CITY ASKED THE FACT THAT LEVERAGES MANY OTHER WELL DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY FUNDING SOURCES. 
          SO IF Y'ALL WEREN'T INTERESTED IN IT, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE IT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK THERE'S INTEREST. 
          SO JUST TRYING TO GAUGE INTEREST AND DIRECTION, LIKE YES, PURSUE IT, EXPLORE FURTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALSO, IS THERE OTHER, ARE THERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON? I KNOW THAT WE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, UH, THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'LL BE RECEIVING AS THEY WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO . 
          OUCH. 
          OUCH. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          I, NO, BUT WE, I MEAN, WITH THE MISSION AND VISION AND EVERYTHING YOU WERE WORKING ON TOGETHER. 
          YES. 
          SO THERE'S, YES. 
          SO INCLUDED IN, UH, THE PRESENTATION FROM THE WORKSHOP, WE DIDN'T GET THROUGH ALL THE SLIDES, BUT THERE'S A DOWNTOWN STREETS SLIDE. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT HAD STARTED LAST FALL ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING IN DOWNTOWN? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THE STREETS? HOW IS THAT IMPACTING OR POTENTIALLY IMPACTING RESIDENTS VERSUS BUSINESSES, CURRENT AND FUTURE, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO, UH, ENGINEERING PUT TOGETHER A SLIDE OF ALL THE STREET PROJECTS, UH, IN DOWNTOWN. 
          AND SO, UH, I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE BOARD THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER PECAN STREET, UH, AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT TO TAKE ON. 
          UH, REASON BEING, IT CONNECTS DIRECTLY FROM WHERE A MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS. 
          THE SURFACE PARKING AT HU BIBLE, WE USE IT FOR ALL THE EVENTS DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, IT DIRECTS, IT CONNECTS DIRECTLY FROM THERE STRAIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, I THINK THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN THING NEEDS A BIGGER DISCUSSION RATHER THAN RANDOM ACTS OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          I, I DON'T MIND THE PECAN STREET IDEA, BUT YOU KNOW, MIKE FOWLER BROUGHT UP, WHY NOT MAKE A TURS DOWN THERE? AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A BIGGER STRATEGIC DISCUSSION THAT IS DRIVEN BY SOME PROP PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          SOME BUSINESSES MAYBE WE COME AND LISTEN TO WHAT CH WHAT COUNCIL IS WILLING TO LOOK AT. 
          BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIX ALL THOSE DOWNTOWN PROBLEMS ON THE BACKS OF THOSE SMALLER BUSINESSES. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE A, A, AN AWFUL LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE OLD TOWN E STREET, WEST STREET PECAN FARLEY WORK THE WAY EVERYBODY DREAMS IT NEEDS TO WORK. 
          AND THEN YOU THROW PARKING IN THERE, YOU THROW LIVE OAK STREET IN THERE. 
          THAT THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION. 
          AND I COMPLETELY AGREE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THEN JUST USSING EITHER SIDE, THE CON STREET, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK, I THINK JUST US DOING A SIDEWALK PROJECT, I MEAN, IT'D BE GREAT. 
          UM, AND WE NEED THAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE OF ALL THE PARKING ISSUES, BUT YOU CAN'T DO A SIDEWALK PROJECT UNTIL YOU RELOCATE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          BUT IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE  AND IT AIN'T CHEAP. 
          IT'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE. 
          I JUST, I JUST LIKE THE IDEA BECAUSE, UH, PART OF OUR PILLARS ARE, UH, THEIRS IS CREATE THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND SO QUALITY OF LIFE IS, IS THE ESSENCE OF THESE NONPROFITS THAT DO SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          BACK TO THE EVENT CENTER. 
          OH, YOU'RE BACK TO THE EVENT CENTER. 
          I'M BACK TO THE CENTER. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO SEE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE, WE NOT THE CITY MAY BE ENGAGED IN, BUT WHERE'S THE BIGGEST IMPACT? AND YOU'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT SOME COST ANALYSIS, HAVEN'T YOU? MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY, IT'S NOT LIKE $20 MILLION BILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD, UM, I LOVE THE PROJECT AND HONESTLY, I WOULD LOVE AN EVENT CENTER. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER PERSPECTIVE THOUGH, ON ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE COULD, OR NOT THE EVENTS, BUT, UM, PROJECTS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONNECT WITH THE CITY, UH, WITH. 
          UM, I HAVE THE CI THINK A LOT OF THE CIP PROJECTS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THOUGH, IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH, AND SO PART OF THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS IS LEVERAGING THE IMPACT THAT THIS CORPORATION CAN MAKE IN WHAT AREAS. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA SUPPORT ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE CREATION, LIMMER LOOP IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, BECAUSE THAT CORRIDOR IS GONNA BE INSANE. 
          WELL, I WOULD, IF YOU WANNA SUPPORT DOWNTOWN, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PROJECTS. 
          I 
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WOULD LOVE. 
          SO IT JUST, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO PRIORITIZE. 
          RIGHT? WELL, I WOULD LOVE, WITH OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION AND EVERYTHING, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND BRING THEM TO THE BOARD, LIKE GOOD SUGGESTIONS. 
          AND THEN WE COULD, AS A BOARD FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES ARE LIKE MORE OF A PRIORITY AND THEN GO THROUGH IT THAT WAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, SO THAT WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THIS, SPENDING ALL THIS TIME ON STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, WHICH PROJECTS MEET THE GOALS? WHICH PROJECTS ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE THINGS? BECAUSE THEN I THINK IF WE, IF IT IS SOMETHING WE DECIDE TO GO TO GO FORWARD WITH, NOT ONLY WOULD WE HAVE HOPEFULLY CITY COUNCIL'S BUY-IN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'D ALWAYS ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY'S BUY-IN AS WELL. 
          I JUST THINK THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE THAT EVEN STILL WOULD ALIGN WITH THE DIRECTION YOU GUYS ARE GOING. 
          AND ALREADY THERE'S MIXED EMOTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS AROUND THINGS THAT WOULD ALIGN. 
          BUT I JUST, I DON'T REALLY GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THE BOARD WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO UNDERTAKE. 
          SO I'M GONNA END UP SPENDING A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH PROJECT, SO OVER A HUNDRED PROJECT. 
          SO I CAN GO THROUGH AND I CAN BRING A LIST AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT. 
          I, I'LL DO BRINGING A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO, OR, WELL, I MEAN, I COULD GO THROUGH THE LIST AND BRING A LIST, A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT I THINK WOULD ALIGN WITH OUR, OUR BOARD. 
          IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO TACKLE, I CAN DO THAT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, WE ALL COULD DO THAT. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND DOING THAT HOMEWORK. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL AS WELL. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE, OR MAYBE WE JUST DISCUSS IT. 
          WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE DETAIL OF, I MEAN, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, RIGHT. 
          POTENTIAL PROJECTS. 
          AND IF WE GO TACKLING LITTLE BITTY PROJECTS HERE AND THERE, WE'RE JUST WAGGING THE DOG. 
          RIGHT? SO IF WE'RE GONNA TACKLE SOMETHING, IT NEEDS TO GO INTO WHERE, WHEN CITY COUNCIL FINALLY DECIDES WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE THEM, THEN WE COME ALONGSIDE AND WE IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN HELP. 
          BUT JUST THE TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE DEBT IN FISCAL 2029 IS $151 MILLION FOR SOME OF THESE CAPITAL OUTLAYS. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS A, OUR NONPROFITS RIGHT NOW NEEDING A SPACE TO MM-HMM. 
          HAVE COMMUNITY. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN 2029 AND ALL THAT DEBT? YEAH. 
          AND WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW TO, TO HELP. 
          WELL, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A LITTLE OFF TRACK. 
          IF I COULD BRING IT BACK IN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME WITH YOU GUYS WANTING TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PRIORITIZATION IS EXACTLY. 
          AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, COST SHARING AS FAR AS PUTTING THINGS OFF, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR MONEY WISE TO DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS BRINGING AND ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THAT COULD HELP US IN DOING OUR PRIORITIZATION. 
          SO I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS GOING THROUGH THE CIP IS GONNA HELP US. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING TO HELP US OUT WITH, BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO DO OUR OWN PLANNING THAT WAY. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF, IF YOU GUYS LOOKED AT WHAT STAFF IS BRINGING YOU, MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEN IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE WILL COME TO YOU AND ASK YOU. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, THE THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE EVENT CENTER, SO MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A COST ANALYSIS FOR, UM, FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN EVENT CENTER, EVENT VENUE IN THE CITY OF HU. 
          AND THE, THE REASON BEHIND THE MOTION IS IF WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PROJECTS, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT. 
          WHETHER IT GETS DONE NOW OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO, IF WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER IT, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE COSTS. 
          JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE COST WITH THE CIPS. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          YEP. 
          I SEC. 
          YEAH. 
          I SECOND DID YOU SECOND IT ALREADY? YOU CAN HAVE IT. 
          YOU WANT A THIRD? NO, YOU CAN HAVE, IT'S OKAY. 
          WE'RE FIGHTING FOR IT. 
          NO . 
          I'LL WIN THOUGH. 
          I CAN PUT A THIRD IN THE MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          KELLY, SO YOU CAN WHAT? I SAID I CAN PUT A THIRD IN THE MINUTES IF YOU WANT. 
          NO, IT'S OKAY. 
          NO, THAT, THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY SECRETARY TO OR TERRANCE OWENS, AND THEN SECOND IN BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN. 
          OR DID I, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S FINE. 
          WHATEVER. 
          I THINK IT WAS HENRY, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          . 
          OH, YOU WERE SECONDING IT? NO, NO, I'M GOOD. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, SECOND IN BY HENRY, I MEAN, UH, TREASURER HENRY GIDEON. 
          SORRY, IT'S 
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LATE. 
          YEAH, IT IS GETTING LATE. 
          THAT'S PEOPLE THAT'S TALKING SQUIRRELS ALREADY GETTING MY ATTENTION. 
          YEAH, SAME SQUIRRELS. 
          UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PROJECTS THEY'RE WORKING ON, UM, BEFORE WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, AN EVENT CENTER OR EVENT CENTER. 
          UM, AND SO I'LL BE, UM, NOT VOTING FOR THIS, BUT, UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA. 
          I JUST WOULD RATHER UNDERSTAND, HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY AND THEIR PROJECTS FIRST BEFORE WE DECIDE TO TACKLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THE MOTION THAT, UH, THIS COULD EASILY BE A JOINT PROJECT WITH THE CITY ALSO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? CAN YOU CALL VOTE PLEASE? TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CLANCY. 
          NAY. 
          VICE CHAIR? MINTON AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SIX ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SEVEN 12. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE AN UM, OR INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN OF THE HIGHWAY 79 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 32 INTERSECTION. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS ITEM IS, UH, IN REGARD TO THE VERY CRITICAL PROJECT THAT MIDWAY SHARED AND WE ALL KNOW IS, UH, LU AND LARGE ON THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, UM, WE, AS PART OF THE PROCESS, UH, IN DESIGN, THE DESIGN ENGINEER DOES A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SO THAT THEY CAN DESIGN THAT INTERSECTION TO ACCOMMODATE CURRENT AND ANTICIPATED FUTURE TRAFFIC FLOWS. 
          I FELT LIKE IT IS IN THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER SEEKING AN INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. 
          BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS THAT IF THE DESIGN ENGINEER IS THE ONE CONDUCTING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO THEN DECIDE WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE, I FELT LIKE WE MIGHT WANNA DOUBLE CHECK THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, UNNECESSARILY BUILDING A LARGER PROJECT THAN WHAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR, UM, FOR THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SO, SO I NEED TO CLAR GET CLARIFICATION. 
          SURE. 
          WE HAVE MIDWAY WHO SHOULD BE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THAT GROUP OF DESIGNERS TO ACHIEVE MAXIMUM ACCESSIBILITY FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, THE COTTON DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT AS A SIDEBAR IMPROVES THE SAFETY OF THAT OVERPASS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR NORTH SOUTH TRAVEL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S, WHY WOULD WE SPEND MONEY TWICE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE GAVE MIDWAY TO? BECAUSE MIDWAY IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. 
          MIDWAY REPORT COULD BENEFIT THEM, OUR REPORT COULD BENEFIT US. 
          WE KIND OF NEED OUR OWN ADVICE. 
          WHAT ABOUT SHE'S ON THE HOOK FOR THE, FOR THE OVERPASS. 
          MM. 
          AND SHOULDN'T THEY BE THAT FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN MM-HMM. 
          DECIDED. 
          OH REALLY? MM-HMM . 
          WELL THEN THAT, THAT COULD SLOW THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE DOWN THE WHOLE PROJECT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO THIS, THIS IS, THIS CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH CITY COUNCIL THAT THE EDC IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          HOW MUCH IS IT? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA GO GET A BUNCH OF BIDS. 
          I JUST NEED AUTHORIZATION TO EXPLORE IT BECAUSE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A-T-I-A-A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? NO, BECAUSE THAT'LL COME FROM THE, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL-BLOWN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS OF A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGE. 
          WELL, IF IT SAVES US $20 MILLION OFF THE PROJECT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT. 
          THIS, THIS COULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PRICE TAG. 
          I DUNNO. 
          BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE BIDS. 
          SO YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR DIRECTION TO GO GET THE BIDS MM-HMM. 
          TO JUST JUST GO GET THE BIDS NOT TO EXECUTE? MM-HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I AGREE WITH THE, WITH THE FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION THERE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A RF IN THE PAST IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA MOVING FORWARD THAT WE ARE BEING A GOOD, BE MAKING SURE THAT WE COVER ALL OF OUR BASES. 
          YEAH. 
          BEING RFQ TO GET THE ENGINEER AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE ENGINEER. 
          WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME PROCUREMENT PROCESSES AS THE CITY. 
          SO IT'S, IT CAN BE MUCH FASTER. 
          YOU COULD HIRE AN ENGINEER DIRECTLY IF WE WANT. 
          IF Y'ALL WANTED TO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THEY WOULD, Y'ALL WOULD GIVE THEM THE, WHO'S GONNA GIVE 'EM THE SCOPE IN DIRECTION, IN THE DIRECTION? 
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GARVER AND MIDWAY? WHO? GARVER AND MIDWAY YOU'RE GONNA LET A CONTRACTOR DEVELOP THE SCOPE? YOU NO, THEY'RE NOT A WHO'S A CONTRACTOR? GARVER, AREN'T THEY THE CONSTRUC? NO, THEY'RE DESIGN ENGINEER. 
          THEY'RE THE DESIGN ENGINEER. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO INSTEAD OF GARVER NOT DOING THE WORK, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO OUT AND DO IT OURSELVES BECAUSE YEAH. 
          AND IT'S EITHER GONNA CONFIRM WHAT'S IN THERE AND Y'ALL CAN MOVE FORWARD CONFIDENTLY WITH THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AS IS. 
          OR IT'S GONNA COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T THINK WE PROBABLY NEED X, Y, AND Z COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT. 
          SO LET'S SCALE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU'LL RECALL, SCALE IT BACK LIKE SIX LANE, THREE LANES IN EITHER DIRECTION PLUS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT HAD TO GET REDUCED FOUR LANES OVER THE OVER 79 METER. 
          WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIGNIFICANT INTERSECTION THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THAT AREA'S GONNA BECOME 45 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC. 
          CORRECT. 
          EAST WAY. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE SO IT IT, I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S IN THIS BOARD'S BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE WE DOUBLE CHECK THEIR WORK. 
          HOW MUCH, UH, WE'RE WE'RE, HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR IT? WELL, WE GOTTA GET THE BIDS FIRST. 
          IF WE HAVE TO GO GET A, A BUDGET AMENDMENT FROM THE CITY, AT LEAST THIS TELLS THE CITY, HEY, THE BOARD IS REALLY THE CITY, THE THE CITY COUNCIL SAID MAKE COTTONWOOD HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION? YEAH. 
          BUT WHERE'S THE WHAT? I I GET THAT, BUT YEAH, BUT WHAT FUNDING SOURCE ARE WE GONNA PULL IT FROM? IF WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT, THEN WE DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          BUT BUDGET AMENDMENT TO WHAT? FROM WHAT? WELL, I THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BID AMOUNT IS FIRST BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY FROM. 
          WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE. 
          YEAH, NO. 
          BUT DO WE HAVE FUND BALANCE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? WELL, YEAH. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE FUN BALANCE FOR A LOT OF THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN THEN I'LL, THE CASH FROM THE CASH FLOWS THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST MEETING. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT, OKAY. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          I JUST THINK GOT FUN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S KIND OF ODD. 
          SO BY DOING THIS, WHAT, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT FOR, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE COULD THEN MIDWAY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WITHOUT, SO MIDWAY'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD REGARDLESS? I THINK THE INTENT HERE IS THE SCOPE OF THAT INTERSECTION. 
          THAT PROJECT WAS QUOTED LAST FALL OR MAY, WAS IT THE FALL BEFORE? I DON'T EVEN KNOW NOW. 
          I THINK IT WAS 2 23. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S 80 TO $90 MILLION PROJECT BY THE TIME THAT ACTUALLY GETS CONSTRUCTED. 
          I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT TO BE OVER 150 MILLION, 8% ESCALATION AT LEAST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO BACKING THAT DOWN, BECAUSE Y'ALL AND COUNCIL AGREED TO PIVOT TO A MUCH SMALLER SCALED DESIGN MM-HMM . 
          HOWEVER, DESIGN ENGINEERS GO OUT AND GET ALL THE TRAFFIC INFORMATION AND THEY USE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FUTURE TRAFFIC IS GONNA LOOK LIKE BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ANTICIPATED. 
          DEPENDING ON WHICH VARIABLES THEY TURN ON AND OFF AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THEIR ANALYSIS, IT CAN PRODUCE DIFFERENT RESULTS. 
          IT'S A VERY DEFINITION OF VARIABLES. 
          SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE EXPLORE THE OPTION OF HAVING AN INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SO THAT THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE VERSUS WHAT SOMEONE MAY WANT IT TO BE. 
          SO WOULD THIS, WOULD THIS BE A SIGN OF NO, NO CONFIDENCE? NO. 
          I MEAN IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN LIKE, I'M JUST, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, JUST ASKING QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU CAN HAVE AN APPRAISAL AND YOU CAN SAY, HEY BANK, LOOK I HAVE APPRAISAL. 
          AND, AND THAT APPRAISER WAS JUST AS QUALIFIED TO DO THAT APPRAISAL AS ANY OTHER ARAI WAS. 
          BUT THE BANK IS STILL GOING TO GET THEIR OWN APPRAISAL. 
          GOTCHA. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE A LOAN IN THE MONEY. 
          SO BASICALLY THEY'RE GONNA DO THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY, THEY'RE GONNA DO ALL THEIR THINGS AND THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT'S WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW. 
          THEIR CONTRACTOR HAS TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE WORK. 
          CITY HAS TO DO THE WORK, BUT ALSO LIKE WE SHOULDN'T MAYBE BE JUST RELYING ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S WORK. 
          MAYBE WE NEED OUR OWN APPRAISAL. 
          GOTCHA, GOTCHA. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? DO YOU THINK THAT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT IF WE GOT OUR OWN APPRAISAL? OR DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD CREATE MORE CONTENTION WITH WHO CARE WITH GARBER, YOU HAVE A GARBER. 
          I MEAN IT'S A VERY GOOD, UH, EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          NO APPRAISER THAT I'VE EVER KNOWN HAS EVER MAD AT ANOTHER APPRAISER FOR APPRAISING THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          THEY'RE STILL GETTING BA BOTH PAID TO DO THE JOB. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MAD BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE NEVER CAME. 
          JUST GIVING OUT, GIVING US MORE INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S A PROFESSIONAL RESPECT THING. 
          AND NO ONE'S TAKING THE CONTRACT AWAY FROM GARVER. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          IT'S JUST, HEY, WE WANNA DOUBLE CHECK THIS. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS A HUGE TICKET ITEM AND IT'S A PRETTY LONG CON, IT'S A LONG PROJECT. 
          SO IF WE CAN PULL THE SCOPE BACK, IF WE GET NUMBERS THAT SHOW, HEY, THESE CONFLICT HERE, WHAT ARE Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS? LET'S TRY TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE OR WHATEVER ONE OF THEIR STUDY WAS THEN TWO YEARS AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE COULD BE NEW VARIABLES AND NEW TECHNOLOGY OR NEW INFORMATION THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE THEN WELL IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TWO YEARS AGO THAN WHAT WE NEED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE IS LIKE MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THE ROAD. 
          I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, GETTING EMERGENCY SERVICES ACROSS THE ROAD MM-HMM . 
          AND NOW WE HAVE THAT ACCESS, UM, FURTHER DOWN 79. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SATISFIES THAT NEED OR NOT. 
          OR, OR IF THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. 
          I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE'S GONNA WANT ACCESS OVER THE RAIL AS OFTEN AS 
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THEY CAN GET IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          PASS IT. 
          BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE STATIONS ARE, LIKE WHEN MIDWAY WAS PRESENTING, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY PROPOSED THAT LOCATION FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER WAS BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS RIGHT. 
          ONTO 1 32. 
          AND IF THERE'S A FUTURE OVERPASS, THEN THAT PROVIDES THAT QUICK NORTH SOUTH CONNECTIVITY. 
          AND SIMILARLY FOR AMBULANCE IF FOR THAT HOSPITAL USE. 
          SO DOES IT COST US A LOT OF CASH FOR US TO GO GET ESTIMATES ON HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST FOR A BID? NO, IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. 
          SO WHY DON'T DON DO STAFF TIME? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE BY DOING THAT? NO, NO. 
          I, I'M SORRY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A COUPLE LIKE A HUNDRED GRAND . 
          NO. 
          SO TO JUST TO GO GET BIDS IS IS FREE. 
          NO, I THINK WE SHOULD AN EMAIL. 
          THE BID IS JUST STAFF TIME TO REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, CAN, CAN YOU DO THIS? HOW FAST CAN YOU DO IT? AND HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE? AND HERE'S THE STORY CHAIR. 
          I MOVE, WE DIRECT STAFF TO GO OUT AND, UH, GET SOME BIDS FOR AN INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AT 79 AND 1 32 SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET'S STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS . 
          UM, SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO. 
          MAY I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIR CLANCY. 
          AYE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          VICE CHAIR MINTON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE. 
          SECRETARY OWENS AYE. 
          TREASURER GIDEON AYE. 
          BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN OH MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          IT BEING 11:50 PM YES. 
          UM, I WOULD ASK THAT THE BOARD LOOK AT THE REST OF THE AGENDA AND DETERMINE WHAT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE MOVED OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE HANDLED. 
          UM, I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, MAY BE QUESTIONS THAT SOMEONE WITH 16 OR 18 HOURS WITHOUT SLEEP MAY NOT NEED TO BE MAKING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO THE BOARD. 
          IT IT'S UP TO YOU. 
          I'M, I'M HERE TILL WE'RE DONE. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE MISTAKEN DECISIONS MADE BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S A LITTLE TIRED AND MAYBE NOT UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN, 17, I MEAN SEVEN POINT 13, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BOARD TO VOLUNTEER. 
          I THINK THIS, UM, SEVEN 13 AND SEVEN POINT 14 CAN BE COMBINED. 
          IT WAS WHAT I PROPOSED THIS, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE HOW CAN WE DO A TEAM BUILDING, CREATE A TEAM BUILDING OPPORTUNITY AND THAT WAS EITHER VOLUNTEERING OR JUST AN EVENT WE GO TO TOGETHER OR SOMETHING. 
          SO THAT WAS LIKE ALL, OOPS, SORRY. 
          ALL ENCOMPASSING UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. 
          I DIDN'T REALLY WANT IT TO BE ONE ITEM. 
          CAN WE PUSH THAT TO NEXT MEETING SO THAT WAY WE COULD GET IDEAS AND DISCUSS IT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THEN I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. 
          I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION. 
          SEVEN 15, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION MINUTES FROM THEIR QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING WITH HEAD OF CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2024. 
          REGULAR MEETING ON JANUARY 9TH, 2025 AND SPECIAL CALL JOINT MEETING WITH HU CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WAS FIRST BY TREASURER GIDEON. 
          UM, AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MITTEN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE 1.1 IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FEBRUARY 3RD, 20, 25 MINUTES ARE READY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN THE PACKET. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND THE JANUARY 9TH, 2025 SHOULD REFLECT JANUARY 13TH AS, AND THAT WAS NOTED IN YOUR EMAIL YESTERDAY. 
          I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, YEAH, SO THAT, SO SHOULD WE TABLE THIS FOR NEXT? IT IT'S UP TO, UM, WITH THOSE CHANGES YOU CAN'T, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE, YOU'D BE APPROVING DECEMBER 9TH AND THE JANUARY 13TH. 
          IT'D BE JANUARY 9TH. 
          RIGHT? I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, WE NEED TO MOVE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE, THE DATES WRONG AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 9TH OR FEBRUARY 13. 
          WE DO. 
          WE'LL TABLE THIS WHOLE, UM, ACT OR THIS ADD, UH, AGENDA. 
          WE JUST HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE JUST APPROVE, SIT AND APPROVE MINUTES, PUT 'EM ON CONSENT. 
          WE DO HAVE THEM. 
          MAYBE YOU COULD DO A SPECIAL CALL OR SOMETHING. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO DID SOMEBODY WITHDRAW THE MOTION THEN, OR LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL MOVE SEVEN POINT 15 TO NEXT OR THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. 
          CAN I ASK LEGAL COUNSEL, IS THERE ANY, UM, TIME CLOCK ON WHEN MINUTES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPLOADED OR SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC? I MEAN, THEY, THEY'RE, NO, I MEAN THE, FOR REGULAR OCCURRING MEETINGS, I SHOULDN'T STIPULATE. 
          THERE'S, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PREPARED PROMPTLY, BUT OKAY. 
          THAT'S IN THE EYE. 
          THE BE HOLDER. 
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OKAY. 
          SO ITEM EIGHT, EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS THE OPEN MEETING AND RECONVENE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 5 51 0.072 REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE LITIGATION PERTAINING TO JRS COMPANY INC. 
          THE LITIGATION PERTAINING TO THE FARM LEASE AT THE MEGA SITE, VIOLATIONS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION PROTECTIONS AND POSSIBLE ASSOCIATED LITIGATION PROJECT FEE AND RELATED COMMUNICATIONS PROJECT. 
          HU HOLLOW PROJECT, MAESTRO SPINE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE MEGASITE PROJECT, PROJECT TITAN, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 1155. 
          ARE WE THERE? OKAY. 
          UM, THE TIME IS NOW 1 31 AND WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE'RE GOING ON TO ITEM NINE. 
          NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          OH, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UM, ITEM NINE, ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION 9.1, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          I AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE, UM, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          UM, ITEM 10, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK THAT WE MENTIONED A COUPLE. 
          13 OR SEVEN. 
          SEVEN 13 OR SEVEN, 14 AND 15 WE BUILDING, OR 13 AND 14. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          TEAM BUILDING. 
          7 13, 7 15. 
          OH YEAH, WE GOTTA BRING THE MINUTES. 
          BETTER THE MINUTES. 
          AND THEN THOUGHT THAT WAS, DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE WORKSHOP? THE WORKSHOP TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN? DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT ON A, AS A AGENDA ITEM? YES. 
          I THINK THAT WE WERE GONNA TALK, WE WERE GONNA PUT THAT AS A SPECIAL, SPECIAL CALL MEETING. 
          MEETING SPECIAL CALL, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IN THAT SAME SPECIAL CALL, CAN WE DISCUSS PROJECT B AND COMMUNICATIONS? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, WHAT ABOUT, OKAY. 
          NEVER. 
          I, I THINK WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 1 33 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD NIGHT.
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