[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
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. >>> ALL RIGHT. IT IS 7:02. I CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 20TH, 2005 TO ORDER.
WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL. THE MAYOR IS YEAR.
>> LOOKING FOR MY SHEETS. ONE SECOND.
I APOLOGIZE. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS LOSING, AND I ALMOST LOST TRACK OF TIME. OKAY.
NEXT, IF YOU WILL RISE, THE INVOCATION WILL BE
LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AND COMING TOGETHER.
COUNCIL MEETING WE HAVE ON TODAY.
AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE, LORD, HELP US TO GET TO OUR DESTINATION AND MAKE IT BETTER. LORD, WE THANK YOU AS WE GROW IN HIM. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OVERFLOWING BLESSINGS. WE GIVE YOU ALL THE HONOR.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE TO ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE
[5.1. Amplify Wilco Days (Kylie Sinai) ]
STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.>>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT, IF COUNSEL WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT FOR A PROCLAMATION FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATION OR OTHER NONPROFITS. PLEASE COME UP.
>>> ALL Râ– IGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING. WHEREAS THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FILL PHILANTHROPY IS A CHERISHED VALUE IN HUTTO. IT EMERGED AS A POWERFUL PLATFORM FOR LOCAL NONPROFITS TO CONNECT WITH DONORS AND IMPLIFY THEIR IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY. WHEREAS THE CITIZENS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT DILIGENTLY ADDRESS NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY SPANNING EDUCATION, HEALTH, THE ARTS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AND WHEREAS AMPLIFY WILCO DAY WILL CREATE A COLLECTIVE FORCE FOR POSITIVE CHANGE, FOSTERING A CULTURE OF GIVING AND MAKING A LASTING DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.
WHERE THE CITY PROUDLY PARTICIPATED IN AMPLIFY WILCO DAY TO SUPPORT THE CAUSES THAT MATTER MOST TO THEM AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY AND WELL- BEING OF OUR STATE. WE PROCLAIM MARCH 5TH THROUGH THE 6TH, 2005 AS AMPLIFY WILCO DAYS AND URGE ALL TO SHOWCASE THE GENEROSITY AND COMPASSION THAT DEFINE HUTTO.
AND I URGE BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DAY EITHER BY DONATING TO THEIR FAVORITE CAUSES OR VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO SUPPORT THE INCREDIBLE WORK OF OUR LOCAL NONPROFITS.
>> YES, MA'AM. AND WITH US. , WE HAVE?
>> TELL US MORE ABOUT IT, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T -- I THINK I
KNOW. >> YOU DID -- YOU DID GREAT, ACTUALLY. IT IS A 24- HOUR GIVING DAY.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A COMMUNITY IS COMING TOGETHER AND SAYING THESE NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE DOING THE WORK THAT SERVE OUR LANDS, THAT SERVE OUR PETS, THAT SERVE OUR KIDS, THAT SERVE OUR PARENTS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO
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SUCCEED. SO ON THAT 24 HOURS, WE JUST ALL GIVE BACK, $5 OR $5 MILLION, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO GIVE IN THAT 24 HOURS TO SHOW THAT COMMUNITY HOW MUCH WE CARE.>> WE HAVE A FEW MATCHES. WE HAVE MATCHES.
WE HAVE PRIZES. EVERY HOUR THERE IS A PRIZE FOR THE ORGANIZATION THAT GETS THE MOST DONORS OR THE MOST DOLLARS. WE AS AN ORGANIZATION RAISE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT BACK INTO THE NONPROFITS AS WELL. WE ARE ALSO A NONPROFIT.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
>> I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE FOR THE NONPROFITS.
I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE IS BUSY.
MY NAME IS SANDRA. I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR THAT SERVES GRADES 6 THROUGH 12 AND WE HAVE KIDS THAT COME FROM EVERYWHERE. ANYONE AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN 6 THROUGH 12 GRADE. WE ARE PARTICIPATING.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, GO TO THEIR WEBSITE.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO DONATE, LIKE SHE SAID, $5 TO $5 MILLION. BUT EVERYTHING WE GET GOES INTO PROVIDING DINNER FOR THEM, KEEPING THIS CONTINUED AND GOING AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A SAFE PLACE FOR KIDS JUST TO COME BE THEMSELVES AND HANG OUT. AND, AGAIN, HERE YOU GO.
>> NO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND YOU WANT ME TO --
[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
>>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER
COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT IN THE COLD TO BE HERE.
I APPRECIATE THAT. LOOK FORWARD TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. FIRST AND FOREMOST, NOTICE OF ROAD CLOSURE IN 1660. JOE BLAND CONSTRUCTION WILL BE SETTING UP NIGHTLY LANE CLOSURES BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 P.M. AND 5:00 A.M. STARTING SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD THROUGH WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH.
THEY WILL BE REMOVING THE CONCRETE TRAFFIC BARRIERS AND ALSO PUTTING IN THE PAINTS DROPPING OF THE LANES.
WE'RE KICKING OFF BUDGET SEASON, AND YOUR INPUT IS ESSENTIAL. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU ABOUT THE QR CODES THAT ARE AROUND THE ROOM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU CLICK ON YOUR CAMERA ON YOUR PHONE, YOU CAN TAKE THE QR CODE. IT WILL TAKE YOU TO A PAGE THAT COVERS THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I'M MAKING. BUT WE KICKED OFF A NEW FORMAT FOR A BUDGET SURVEY THIS WEEK, AND WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO GO AND ENGAGE WITH THAT SURVEY.
IT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO TAKE YOUR TIME, YOUR COMMITMENT BECAUSE IN EACH DEPARTMENT YOU WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH, THERE IS VIDEOS. A SHORT VIDEO FOR THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, KIND OF INTRODUCES THE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN IT SOLICITS IDEAS, FEEDBACK AND THAT SORT OF STUFF FROM THAT DEPARTMENT THAT WE WILL THEN TAKE THAT DATA AND USE THAT TO INFORM BUILDING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET AND HOW WE MANAGE OPERATIONS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR GROWING COMMUNITY AND WE'RE MAKING THE OPPORTUNITY AS WIDELY SPREAD AS POSSIBLE AND AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO ENGAGE WITH US TO GIVE US FEEDBACK AND IDEAS. AFTER WE COLLECT THE INFORMATION FROM THE BUDGET SURVEY THAT'S LIVE RIGHT NOW, WE WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE PRIORITIZATION EXERCISE THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ATTENDED, IT IS THE ONES WHERE YOU USE THE DOTS, AND THEN YOU DECIDE WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT AND LEAST IMPORTANT. IT ALSO SHOWS THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PROPOSED DURING THIS SURVEY AND WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WOULD COST TO THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IN TOWN IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE WITH THE NEW TAX DOLLARS. THAT GIVES EVERYONE A WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE COST AND THE VALUE PROPOSITION.
THAT EXERCISE WHERE WE TAKE AND DO THE PRIORITIZATION IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, MARCH 22ND.
SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT DAY, OR IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY, YOU WANT TO COME OUT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HOPE.
IF YOU ARE ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSION, THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE. OR THE HUTTO CITIZENS
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UNIVERSITY, THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE, YOU COME ON OUT MARCH 22ND. THIS IS A REMINDER, CITY HALL OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR ALL STAFF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE CITY OF HUTTO IS HOSTING AN OPEN HOUSE TO DISCUSS PROPOSED PLANS FOR OLD TOWN STREETS AND PARKING. THIS IS GOING TO BE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH, 6:30 P.M. HERE AT CITY HALL. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS, ALL INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE DOWNTOWN. IT WILL BE DEALING WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ONE- WAY STREETS, AND THERE ALSO BE SOLICITING INPUT ON THE PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN. SO BOTH OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE SAME SPACE HERE IN CITY HALL. FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT ATTEND, WE WILL HAVE A SURVEY THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE THAT WILL GO LIVE AND BE RELEASED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE EVENT, AND THAT WILL BE UP FOR LIKE TWO WEEKS FOR ANYONE TO BE ABLE TO CIPATE IN CASE THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT.CALLING ALL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR INSPIRING ENTREPRENEURS, COME OWN OUR SESSION ON FINANCING AND TAXES FOR SMALL BUSINESS SUCCESS ON TUESDAY, MARCH 4TH AT 6:00 P.M. HERE AT CITY HALL.
WE ARE ASKING FOR RSVPS, WHICH YOU CAN GET THROUGH THE QR CODE.
THE HUTTO PUBLIC LIBRARY WILL BE OFFERING FREE CLASSES AT THE LIBRARY -- THREE FREE CLASSES ON MARCH 8TH DURING THE CENTRAL TEXAS LEARNING FESTIVAL, WHICH OFFERS FREE VIRTUAL CLASSES ALL OVER THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA MASTERING CHATGPT.
THAT'S MARCH 5TH THROUGH 9TH 1:00 TO 2:00 P.M. AND ALSO -- I'M SORRY, 1:00 TO 2:00 P.M. IS MASTERING CHATGPT.
2:00 TO 3:00 P.M. IS REFRESH AND RESTYLE, HOW TO MAKE ANY ROOM FEEL NEW. YOU CAN ATTEND VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON TO THESE CLASSES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED THROUGH THE LIBRARY. THE WINE BAR IS PARTNERING TO OFFER LADIES NIGHT WITH TRIVIA AND A SPECIAL WINE PAIRING ON MARCH 14TH 6:00 TO 8:00 P.M.
WHERE PROCEEDS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE DONATED TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
THE HUTTO MARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS HOSTING ITS SPRING ADAPTIVE DANCE AT 7:00 P.M.
AT CITY HALL. THIS IS OPEN TO ALL INDIVIDUALS WITH ABILITIES. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES
[7. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
MY COMMENTS FOR THIS MEETING.>> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE KATHLEEN COOK. WE DID RECEIVE YOUR COMMENT ONLINE. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, AND THE LIGHT BE START OFF GREEN WHEN THERE IS 30 SECONDS LEFT. THEN IT GOES TO YELLOW AND THEN RED. FIRST UP, WE HAVE LUCAS EVANS.
>> HOWDY, CITY COUNCIL CITY OF HUTTO.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STICKING THROUGH IT. FOR EVERYONE THAT IS RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S GREAT. WE NEED AS MANY PEOPLE RUNNING AS POSSIBLE. WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS.
MAINLY, FIRST, IS THE 80 ACRES IN THE COTTON BOOK DEVELOPMENT JUST SOUTH OF STERN. I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I KNOW IT IS NOT ZONED FOR ANYTHING REALLY.
THEY SAID THAT I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO OFFER THAT TO THE CITY AND THAT PERHAPS I HAD HEARD AT ONE POINT THE CITY DIDN'T WANT IT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS BUDGET RELATED OR JUST OVERSIGHT.
BUT THAT 80 ACRES AND REALLY ALL ALONG COTTONWOOD CREEK, I KNOW WE SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY JUST CUTTING DEAD GRASS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND WE COULD SAVE MONEY IF WE RESTORE TALL GRASS PRAIRIE. YOU COULD GET PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD TO SEE THE BIODIVERSITY THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP WITH YOU ALL IF THE CITY CAN'T AFFORD THAT OR THE OVERSIGHT IF WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE NATURE CONSERVATORY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DONATE MY TIME TO DO THAT. THE SECOND THING THAT'S BUDGET RELATED BUT ALSO JUST ABOUT ROADS. I THINK I READ IN THE COMMUNITY IMPACT, $450 MILLION FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO FOR ROADS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THAT'S PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS, AND I'M SURE THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO ANY CITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, 1% TO 2% GOING TO
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ACTUALLY A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO BE RATHER THAN THE NEED TO GO ELSEWHERE AND IN AND OUT OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, COTTONWOOD CREEK.IT IS RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
THERE IS NO NEED TO GO TO SAN GABRIELLE PARK FOR WHEREVER WE NEED TO GO IF WE JUST INVESTED IN THE CITY ITSELF.
PART OF THAT ROADS IS CONNECTING 132 TO 1660.
AND I JUST ASKED THAT I GET A LETTER OR SOMETHING BEFORE I GET AN EMINENT DOMAIN LETTER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE AWARE.
I HAVE SEEN A FEW PATHS DRAWN, BUT OUR HOUSE AND PROPERTY IS IN BETWEEN 132 AND 1660.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. AND ALSO JUST THE FUTURE OF CARL STERN, TOO, SO JUST PLEASE KEEP ME LOOPED IN ON THAT.
IT IS KIND OF MIND BOGGLING WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE BETWEEN HUTTO AND TAYLOR. I DON'T THINK THIS HAS HAPPENED PROBABLY ANYWHERE, I THINK, SINCE LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG, BUT THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IS MONUMENTAL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE SUBURBAN HOUSTON OR SOMETHING. SO, YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT TO GO.
I'M HAPPY TO HELP, NATURE CONSERVATORY, WHATEVER WE CAN
[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments. (Part 1 of 2)]
ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. FACING POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT ZONE BOARDS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.
>> NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T -- THAT'S --
>> YOU HAVE TO SPEAK WITH YOUR MICROPHONE
MEET. >> I THINK THERE IS LIKE THREE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE APPLIED RECENTLY. MAYBE MORE.
>> WELL, I ASK BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH MEANS TWO MONTHS HAVE GONE BY. YOU GUYS HAVEN'T MET YET.
>> THERE IS NOT A CHAIR FOR IT, THAT WE APPOINTED ANYBODY.
DID YOU GUYS MEET TO APPOINT A CHAIR?
>> I HAVE BEEN THERE THE LAST TWO TIMES.
I STEPPED BACK SO SOMEONE ELSE COULD DO IT.
>> RUNNING THE BOARD, THE MEETING OF IT SO THAT
SOMEONE ELSE COULD TAKE OVER. >> OKAY.
SPEECHLESS. NOT SURE WHAT TO SAY.
OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO ADD? OKAY.
[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations from City Council sub-committees (i.e. Legislative, HISD). (Part 1 of 2)]
ON THAT, ITEM 82, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY COUNCILSUBCOMMITTEES? >> MAYOR, THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS NOT MET SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
THE BILLS ARE STILL BEING FILED. SOME GOOD ONES, A LOT OF BAD ONES, RIGHT? ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON AND MAYOR PRO TEM P GORDON HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH ABOUT LEGISLATIVE CLARIFICATION AND FIXES TO CITIES ALLOCATING TAX DOLLARS FOR BENEFITS OF A SURVIVING SPOUSE.
>> MOVE ON TO ITEM 91, MY FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING.
>> OH, SIR? CAN I MOVE UP 11-1?
[11.1 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-059 of the City Council of the City of Hutto, Texas, approving the form and authorizing the distribution of a Preliminary Limited Offering Memorandum for "City of Hutto, Texas Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Prairie Winds Public Improvement District Area #1). (Alberta Barrett) ]
>> YOU CAN MAKE THE CHIEF WAIT. ALL RIGHT.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, 11- 1, CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION R-2025- 059 OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF HUTTO TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025 FOR THE PRAIRIE WINDS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AREA NUMBER
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM ON THE
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PREVIEW ED DISTRICT ONE.TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US JIM SABONIS AND ANGELA.
SO THEY ARE HERE. SO IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN PROCEED WITH THAT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT AS THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISER. FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS A NEW PROJECT, PRAIRIE WINDS. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST IMPROVEMENT AREA THAT'S FUNDED WITH A PROJECTED VALUE OF ABOUT $450 MILLION.
CURRENTLY IT IS PROJECTED THAT AT FULL BUILD- OUT, IT WILL BE OVER $2 MILLION BASED ON THE CITY'S CURRENT RATE.
THE DEVELOPER IS GREEN BRIDGE. THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FUNDING IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE BONDS, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 280 HOMES TOTALING ABOUT 113 MILLION OF A TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE, $450,000 IN ANNUAL TAXES. ALSO, THEY WILL PAY A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE OF $3,500 PER LOT, WHICH WOULD BE $980,000. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED ON OCTOBER 2021, JULY OF '23 WE CREATED THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT -- PRAIRIE WOODS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BY RESOLUTION. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT DONE ON AUGUST OF 2023.
WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE FINAL STEP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY ISSUE BONDS AND DO THE LEVY ASSESSMENT. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY OFFERING MEMORANDUM THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY THE CITY STAFF, BOND COUNCIL, FINANCIAL ADVISER AND THE UNDERWRITER WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED TO INVESTORS.
THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE FOR RELEASE.
WE WILL BE BACK ON MARCH 6TH WITH A PRICING, PRESENTATION OF THE FINAL PRICING AND AT THAT TIME A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN OR LEVY ASSESSMENTS AND FOLLOW WITH ISSUING PUBLIC BONDS.
THE BOND CLOSING IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE PLACE AFTER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL APPROVES THE TRANSACTION, WHICH WILL BE MARCH 27TH.
AND THEN THE FEE PAID TO THE CITY WOULD BE DONE BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE DAYS BETWEEN THE FIRST PARTICIPANT OF OCCUPANCY. $10. 1 BILLION OF BONDS FUNDED TOTALING $8. 2 MILLION. ON THIS PROJECT, THE AMORTIZATION IS ABOUT 35 YEARS AND TOTALING ABOUT $24. 2 MILLION. THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICED, A TOTAL OF $36,000 PER PARCEL FOR LIFE OF THE TRANSACTION.
THE LEAN ON EACH PARCEL WILL BE A 45 FOOT FRONT LOTS, $32,700 FOR THE 50- FOOT 36.7. AND FOR THE 60S ABOUT $41,200.
THE LEVERAGE ON THIS TRANSACTION ISSUANCE BASED ON OUR APPRAISAL WILL BE A VERY POSITIVE TRANSACTION. IT IS EXPECTED THAT THE VALUE LOTS WILL BE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE.
THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE FOR YOU AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT YOU WILL BE LEVYING AS THE ASSESSMENT RATE IS ABOUT 69 CENTS.
AND, SO, THE 45- FOOT FRONT LOTS, WHICH WILL BE EXPECTED TO HAVE A BUILDUP VALUE OF $365,000, THEY WILL HAVE AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OF $2,519.
THE 50- FOOT FRONT LOTS WILL HAVE A BUILD- UP VALUE OF $410,000. THEIR ANNUAL ASSESSMENT WOULD BE ABOUT $2,830. AND THE 60- FOOT FRONT LOTS WILL HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUILD- UP VALUE OF $460,000 FOR AN AVERAGE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OF $3,075. THOSE ARE THE ASSESSMENTS THE COUNCIL PUT ON THEM EVERY YEAR.
IN GENERAL, THIS IS A VERY CREDIT WORTHY TRANSACTION.
WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL HERE IN HUTTO AND OTHER AREAS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THIS IS LOWLY LEVERAGED, AND WE EXPECT A POSITIVE SALE GOING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMENTS I HAVE, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND OFFER THE DOCUMENT. WE REVIEWED IT.
WE BELIEVE IT'S BOTH ACCURATE AND COMPREHENSIVE AND PROVIDES ALL THE INFORMATION INVESTORS NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION.
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>> QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
>> MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO PUT THIS RESOLUTION AS
PRESENTED. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
>> I'LL JUST SAY WE DON'T EXPLAIN A LOT USUALLY ON THESE, WHAT THIS MEANS TO THE PUBLIC.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT IN FAVOR OF PITS.
I LOOK AS IT AS A PAY TO PAY FOR DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF -- YOU TELL ME WHEN I'M WRONG, JIM, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR THE ROADS, WASTE WATER EXTENSION, THEY'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS ALLOWS THEM WHEN THEY SELL THESE BONDS TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT INVESTMENT AND THEN THE BURDEN OF THAT INVESTMENT THEN GOES ON TO THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THE HOMES.
WE HAVE MADE AN ATTEMPT AS A COUNCIL, I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN SIZE SIGNAGE SAYING THIS IS A PID NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO PAY $2,000 MORE A YEAR. THE REASON I LIKE IT IS FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN HUTTO, THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN ARE PAYING FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT FOR HELPING TO FACILITATE THIS TRANSACTION, WE GET A BENEFIT FEE OF ALMOST $1 MILLION THAT WE CAN USE IT ON SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PAYS FOR ITSELF, ADDS VALUE AND WE WALK AWAY WITH MONEY THAT ALLOWS US TO ADD VALUE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. SO, YEAH, DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> LET ME FOLLOW UP. THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT IN A PERFECT WORLD WE WOULD HAVE DISTRICTS OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS DISTRICTS AND WE COULD JUST ASK THE CITY AND BUILD THE PROJECTS. BUT THE REALITY IS IN THE UTILITY DISTRICTS FOR THE CITIZENS, THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE A SPECIAL DISTRICT OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
THEY WOULD PAY TAXES TO THE CITY AND THE CITY WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE INPUT IN WHAT WE DEVELOP.
THEY WOULD USE YOUR ROADS AND YOUR PARKS, IMPACTING YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEY WOULD BUILD THE COUNTY STANDARDS, NOT THE CITY STANDARDS.
SO THE PROCESS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH THE CITY INCENTIVE TO FACILITATE IN CITY LIMIT DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THIS PROJECT, THIS IS GO NEGOTIATION, A PROJECT THAT WHERE THE CITIZENS, THESE PEOPLE COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS. THEY WILL PAY FULL TAXES.
THEY PAY A FEE OF $3,500 THAT THE CITY CAN USE FOR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THE CITIZENS BENEFIT FROM THAT PROCESS, VERSUS THE COST AND LACK OF REVENUE THAT WE HAD IN MUD.
AND THE PEOPLE ALSO BENEFIT. AGAIN, THERE WILL BE AN ASSESSMENT CHARGE ON THEM. THE FACT IS IS IT A PIT OR A MUD. IF THEY HAVE MUD, IT WOULD BE AN EXISTENCE UNTIL THE DEVELOPER RECEIVED ALL THEIR CAPITAL RECOVERY, 40 OR 50 YEARS.
AND THEN THE OTHER UNIQUE THING ABOUT IT IS WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT, WE'RE FIXED.
A HOME THAT MIGHT BE $375,000 TODAY MIGHT BE $450,000. THEIR ANNUAL PAYMENT AND DOLLAR AMOUNT DOESN'T GO UP FOR MUD. THEY APPLY THE TAX RATE AND IT GOES UP. SO IT ACTUALLY BENEFITS THE HOMEOWNER VERSUS THE ALTERNATIVE, THE REAL ALTERNATIVE TO MUD. SO IT IS A STRONG -- CITIES THAT USE THIS ACTUALLY BENEFIT THEIR CITIZENS AND BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN IT AND IT IS A WIN- WIN BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER RECOVERS CAPITAL.
NOT AS MUCH AS THE MUD, BUT HE GETS SOME.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
AND IN THIS CASE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A REALLY GOOD NEGOTIATION. NO OUT-OF- POCKET COSTS TO CITY, BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND CONTROL OF THE PROJECT WITH THE
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, TAKE A VOTE.
[9.1. Racial Profiling Presentation and Police Department Quarterly Update (Jeffrey Yarbrough) ]
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, RACIAL PROFILING PRESENTATION AND POLICE DEPARTMENT UPDATE.
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>> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND TONIGHT I'M COMING TO YOU TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE, THE FIRST QUARTERLY UPDATE OF THIS YEAR AND OUR ANNUAL POLICE REPORTING THAT WE'RE STATE MANDATED TO PROVIDE. SO SOME OF THE KEY AREAS THAT I WANTED TO HIT FIRST, I WANTED TO DO THE QUARTERLY UPDATE.
I WILL TALK ABOUT OUR PERSONNEL AND STAFFING, AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS, COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND THEN I WILL GO INTO THE RACIAL PROFILING DATA. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 51 PEACE OFFICER POSITIONS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 47 SWORN, AND WE HAVE 4 LATERAL POSITIONS THAT THE COUNCIL WORKED WITH US TO PROVIDE THIS BUDGET YEAR.
AND WITH THOSE, WE HAVE -- WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A COUPLE POSITIONS SHORT, AND WE FIELD ONE POSITION RECENTLY WITH AN OFFICE FROM ROUND ROCK POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE AN OFFICER STARTING NEXT MONTH FROM KELLER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ABOUT FOUR LATERAL POSITIONS.
WE HAVE ONE THAT'S PENDING THE CHIEFS INTERVIEW, WHICH IS THE LAST STEP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY OFFER THEM A JOB WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE COMPLETING THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION. SO OUT OF THOSE FOUR, WE'VE GOT THREE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE FUNNEL TO ONBOARD WITH OUR DEPARTMENT. WITH THE REMAINING, WE HAVE PERSONAL STATEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND SCHEDULING THEM FOR THE INTERVIEW AND THE PHYSICAL AGILITY PROCESSES SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF HIRE.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING HAVING THOSE POSITIONS FIELD, EVERY POSITION FILLED IN OUR DEPARTMENT BY LATE MARCH. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 13 NON- SWORN AND ONE VACANT POSITION, WHICH IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL POSITION. AND THAT INTERVIEW IS SCHEDULED THIS MONTH. HOPEFULLY, WE COULD HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED AND HAVE SOME WELL- NEEDED RELIEF TO OUR ONE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER.
THE NEW POSITIONS THAT WE BROUGHT TO OUR DEPARTMENT ARE OUR CRIME ANALYST. WE HAVE A CRISIS SUPPORT SPECIALIST AND A VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE THAT RECENTLY STARTED WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'RE SEEING THE MASSIVE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENTS FOR THOSE.
THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL, FOR THOSE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME RECOGNITIONS.
KYLE WAS THE FIRST VICTIMS ASSISTANT COORDINATOR THAT WE HIRED FOR THE DEPARTMENT. AND SHE'S BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND SHE RECENTLY WON THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTERS VICTIMS' ADVOCATE OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR ALL OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY. IT IS A VERY PRESTIGIOUS HONOR, AND SHE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB IN OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTY, AND WE COULD NOT BE HAPPIER FOR THE WORK SHE'S DOING. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE SHE IS OUR HOMELESS LIAISON AS WELL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND SHE'S PROVIDING A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO OUR DEPARTMENT WE CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF. WE'RE THANKFUL TO YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT NEED TO THE DEPARTMENT AND OUR CITY.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE LIEUTENANT JOSH B. WHO WORKED EXTREMELY HARD OVER THE LAST YEAR AND GOT HIS MASTERS IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM WESTERN GOVERNORS UNIVERSITY. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HIM.
I HAVE TO POINT OUT KEATON, THE IT ANALYST OR TECH THAT YOU GOT THE POSITION FOR US LAST YEAR.
WOW. HE HAS DONE AN ABSOLUTE AMAZING JOB IN GETTING OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND OUR SERVERS AND THE WIRING, ALL OF THAT INSIDE OUR FACILITY UPDATED AND GETTING OUR VEHICLES INSTALLED AND EQUIPPED AND PREPARED SO THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT HAVING TO EXPERIENCE TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF DOWN TIME BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF FUNCTIONALITY OF OUR TECHNOLOGY.
SO HE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR DEPARTMENT. I CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF THEM AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE STARTED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE, OUR STAFFING.
WE WERE ABLE TO REESTABLISH SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE COLLAPSED LIKE OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE UNIT WAS ONE WE COLLAPSED AND USED THOSE POSITIONS TO PROVIDE THE CORE FUNCTION, WHICH WAS PATROL. OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE UNIT HAS DONE INCREDIBLE WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES LIKE THE U.S. MARSHALLS AND RECAPTURED A PERSON THAT ABSCONDED FROM COMMITTING MAJOR CRIMES HERE IN HUTTO.
THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND HIM, WORK WITH THE U.S. MARSHALLS OFFICE AND LOCATE THAT INDIVIDUAL IN ARKANSAS AND BRING HIM BACK TO TEXAS. THEY ARE ALSO A MEMBER OF A NEW REGIONAL BURGLARY OF MOTOR VEHICLE TASK FORCE.
EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE BURGLARIES HAPPENING AROUND THE AREA.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING AND SEEING THE THINGS THAT OTHERS ARE SEEING, BUT WE'RE A PART OF THIS TASK FORCE SO THAT WE CAN SHARE INFORMATION AND INTEL SO THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THOSE
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THINGS HAPPENING IN OTHER PLACES SO WE DON'T GET THE SPILLOVER HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF IS WITH THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE OFFICERS GO INTO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIVE DIVISION, AND WE HAVE SEEN A MAJOR RETURN ON INVESTMENT. IN FACT, WE HAD A HOMICIDE LAST YEAR, AND WE RECENTLY HAD A GUILTY PLEA IN ONE OF THE MURDER CASES, THE MURDER CASE FROM LAST YEAR AND THE OTHER CASE AGAINST THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL IS STILL SPENDING. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN 84% CLEARANCE RATE ON CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS. THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STAFFING TO DEDICATE THAT TIME AND WE'RE NOT TRIAGING CASES. SO WE'RE SEEING THE UPWARD TREND OF POSITIVITY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR INVESTIGATIONS. OUR K- 9 ROCKET, EVERYONE KNOWS ROCKET AND ROCKET HAS DONE SOME TREMENDOUS WORK.IN FACT, ROCKET WAS INVOLVED IN GETTING, I THINK, 27 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA WITH ANOTHER AGENCY THAT CALLED TO ASSIST, AND THEY ALSO FOUND $13,000 IN CASH IN ONE VEHICLE, $16,000 IN CASH IN ANOTHER VEHICLE. WE HAVE HAD THEM GO OUT AND HE SUCCESSFULLY LOCATED A WEAPON OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT COMMITTED A CRIME AND RAN THROUGH THE WEAPON. SO ROCKET WAS ABLE TO GO AND RETRIEVE AND LOCATE THAT WEAPON.
HE'S BEEN SO EFFECTIVE IN TRAINING ALONGSIDE OTHERS, WE RECENTLY HAD, I THINK IT WAS APD REACH OUT TO US AND ASK IF ROCKET COULD COME ASSIST THEM ON A SEARCH BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT HE'S DOING IN THIS DEPARTMENT. I'M TELLING YOU, IT IS JUST -- SEEING THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING THE STAFFING THAT YOU GRANTED US TO START TO REBUILD WHERE WE ONCE WERE AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE BECAUSE THE CITY IS GROWING IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
PREVIOUSLY, THE K- 9 OFFICER WAS NOT HAVING -- DIDN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WORKING JUST AS A K- 9 OFFICER. HE WAS ANSWERING CALLS AND GOING FROM CALL TO CALL AND ON OCCASION IF SOMEONE NEEDED A VEHICLE SEARCH, HE WAS DOING IT.
NOW WE GOT HIM DEDICATED AND HE'S WORKING ON THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS WHERE HE'S ABLE TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY WORK IN THE CAPACITY THAT HE'S DESIGNATED.
WE'RE ALSO STARTING AN HONOR GUARD FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
IT IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE AN HONOR GUARD.
AND THEY WILL BE PRESENT AT CERTAIN CEREMONIES AND EVENTS, AND THEY WILL REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT.
ANY TIME YOU HAVE FORMER OFFICERS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT HAVE PASSED AWAY, THEY WILL GO AND REPRESENT THEM.
THEY WILL REPRESENT THEM AT GAMES ANDGRADUATIONS.
WE ALSO STARTED A PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM.
WE'VE GOT -- I WANT TO SAY THERE WERE TEN OFFICERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT WANTING TO BE A PART OF THIS TO BE THAT SUPPORT, THAT SOCIAL- EMOTIONAL SUPPORT AND ADVOCATE FOR OFFICERS IN A DEPARTMENT. YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU WOULD GO OUT ON A MAJOR CRIME, IT MAY BE TRAUMATIC AND YOU CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING TO RE-LIVE WHAT YOU ARE SEEING. SERGEANTS USUALLY GO AND SAY, HEY, AFTER YOU ARE SOBER THEY SAY, HEY, MEET ME AT THE 7- ELEVEN, I WILL BUY YOU A SODA. THAT WAS THE BEST WE'VE GOT.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED. WE HAVE OFFICERS TO HELP EACH OTHER NAVIGATE SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO BE CARRYING THAT BURDEN ALONE.
RECENTLY OVER THE -- SINCE THE LAST PRESENTATION, WE HAD SIX CPR LIVE- SAVING ATTEMPTS IN OUR CITY. ACTUALLY, WE HAD SEVEN.
ONE RECENTLY. OF THOSE SEVEN, OUR OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE CARE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY RESUSCITATE FIVE OF THOSE SEVEN, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE HOSPITAL ALIVE.
SO THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO WHO WE ARE AS FAR AS THE TRAINING AND THE CARE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. OUR DEPARTMENT HAS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE ONE EMT ON STAFF WHO IS A POLICE OFFICER WHO IS WORKING TO ESTABLISH THAT, EXPAND THAT TO WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LIFE SAVING MEASURES TO OUR CITIZENS WHO ARE IN NEED.
WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS PURSUED TWO GRANTS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE OUR RIFLE RESISTANCE BODY ARMOR, AND THAT GRANT WAS LIKE $26,000.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT ONE TO GET ADDITIONAL BODY ARMOR -- RIFLE RESISTANT, RIFLE RATINGS FOR ALL OF OUR OFFICERS. SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. WE ALSO CURRENTLY A GRANT FOR $30,300 FOR SIX RIFLE BALLISTIC SHIELDS. THOSE ARE USED BY PATROL OFFICERS, A SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAM IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO A HIGH- RISK ENTRY.
AND, SO, WE BROUGHT THOSE PROPOSALS TO THE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING US WITH THOSE.
COMMUNITY CONCERNS. ARE WE PERFECT?
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NO. DO WE TRY TO BE? YES. DO WE MICK MISTAKES? YES. AND WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES, WE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CORRECT, CLARIFY, TRAIN AND BUILD CONFIDENCE THROUGH COMPETENCE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COMPETENT OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE COMMUNITY FEEL SAFE WITH THE RESPONSE WE'RE PROVIDING AND WITH THE OFFICERS WE'RE PROVIDING. WE HAD A SITUATION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAD AN HOA THAT WAS CONCERNED THE THINGS GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY.WE HAD A CITY HALL AND HAD MEMBERS COME UP AND ASK QUESTIONS. WE GAVE THEM FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO, SOME INITIATIVES. SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC CRIMES, AND WE WANT TO TELL -- SOMETIMES WE WANT TO TELL PEOPLE SO MUCH, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'VE GOT THIS, BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT WILL COMPROMISE THE INVESTIGATIONS. SO WE -- THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SEE AND HAVE ALREADY SEEN FROM THE MEETING HOW RESPONSIVE WE WANT TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT AND OVERSIGHT AND CARE THAT WE CAN TO THEM. SO THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE EFFORTS BY OUR DEPARTMENT. AND AS WE WORK THROUGH SOME CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING TO OUR SECTORS OF THE CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE EVEN MORE VISIBILITY OF OUR OFFICERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
WE HAD A CALL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A CALL.
A PERSON REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEAD'S UP. I'M SURE IT WAS NOTHING, BUT WE SAW A POLICE VEHICLE DRIVING THROUGH THE AREA AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELDS. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY WERE TAKING CARE OF SOMETHING, BUT THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND THEY MAY HAVE SEEN THAT AND THEY MAY BE CONCERNED WHY THEY WERE DRIVING AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD AREA.
WHEN I GOT THAT INFORMATION, I WANT TO KNOW WHY ARE WE DRIVING AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD? I REACHED OUT AND FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY AROUND THE WOODED AREAS LOOKING FOR A JUVENILE WHO WAS IN CRISIS AND THEY WERE TRYING TO SAVE THIS PERSON'S LIFE. SO SOMETIMES WE'LL SEE THINGS, AND IT IS LIKE, THAT AIN'T RIGHT. BUT THERE IS SO MUCH THAT GOES ON THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY TIME THERE IS A QUESTION THAT PEOPLE CAN REACH OUT AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARITY IF WE CAN. SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT AND WE HEAR THAT.
WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THAT? WE FINALLY HAVE A FULL- TIME TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THEM TO MAXIMIZE OUR EFFORTS IN REDUCING THE FRUSTRATIONS, REDUCING THE MOVING VEHICLE OR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS IN OUR CITY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY SERVICE AND THE SAFEST AREA THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
LAST THING, WE TALK ABOUT PURSUITS.
WE HAD A PURSUIT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS PEOPLE THINK, OH, MAN, THIS PERSON GOT AWAY FROM US. YEAH, THEY DID.
THEY CRASHED OUT IN A FIELD AND RAN INTO SOME WOODS.
WE DIDN'T CATCH HIM THAT NIGHT. BUT THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS A WANTED FEDERAL PAROLEE, AND HE LATER TURNED HIMSELF IN BECAUSE HUTTO WAS LOOKING FOR HIM. SO I'M TELLING YOU, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY, OH, YEAH. IT'S DIFFERENT.
THIS PLACE IS NOT LIKE ANY OTHER PLACE. THIS PERSON TURNED HIMSELF IN, JUST A PERFECT EXAMPLE, I TALKED ABOUT ONCE BEFORE ABOUT HOW WE HAD A TASK FORCE OF OFFICERS FOLLOWING THIS VEHICLE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN SOME BURGLARIES, AND THOSE PEOPLE GOT AFRAID BECAUSE THE VEHICLE WAS FOLLOWING THEM.
THEY HAD WARRANTS. THEY PULLED INTO THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP THEM BECAUSE OF THE SUSPICION VEHICLE PROBLEM.
WE DID HELP THEM. WE GAVE THEM SOME CIVIL BRACELETS. WE GAVE THEM AN UBER RIDE.
THEY GOT SOME PICTURES TAKEN. WE DID TAKE CARE OF THEM.
I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEAR. I MENTIONED THAT WE HAD -- WHAT WAS AHEAD WAS A FULL- TIME TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE.
WE IMPROVED THE CID CLEARANCE CASE RATES, AND WE HAVE REESTABLISHED OUR SPECIALIZED UNITS. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OPPOSITION THAT'S NOT QUITE THERE YET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THAT POSITION FILLED BY LATE MARCH. SORRY, EARLY MARCH.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF -- WE HAVE REDRAWN OUR PATROL SECTOR MAPS BUT WE HAVEN'T FULLY ESTABLISHED. WE HAVE DRAWN IT FROM THE TWO SECTORS WE HAVE NOW TO FOUR SECTORS TO PROVIDE OFFICER RESPONSES TO EVERY AREA. THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS WHEN YOU DRAW IT INTO FOUR AND YOU HAVE GOT FIVE OFFICERS AND YOU HAVE GOT TWO SUPERVISORS, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT TWO OFFICERS IN EVERY SECTOR. SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT TO MAXIMIZE OUR RESPONSE EFFORTS AND OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PART? ALL RIGHT.>> COULD YOU GO BACK? ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT THERE. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF STUDIES THAT HAVE COME OUT JUST IN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF THAT'S GOT US EITHER SECOND SAFEST SMALL CITY IN TEXAS. I WAS LOOKING HERE AT ANOTHER ONE WHERE I THINK WE'RE FIFTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CITIES THERE ARE IN TEXAS.
BUT WITH ALL THE DRUGS AND THE WAY WE'RE SLAMMING HOMES IN HERE, I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME SORT OF RECOGNITION SHOWN TO YOU ALL FOR EVERYONE BEING THE TOP TEN.
IT IS NOT NUMBER ONE. WE'LL GET YOU SOME MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND CAMERAS AND ALL THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND HANDLING THAT. I KNOW PEOPLE SAY, BUT MY CAR STILL GOT BROKEN INTO. WE'RE NOT NUMBER ONE BUT NUMBER TWO. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO BE NUMBER ONE.
>> YES, SIR. >> SOME OF THE GREATEST MOTIVATORS IS SECOND PLACE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.
THAT'S WHERE WE WERE. WE WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW, ESPECIALLY OUR CRIMINALS, THAT THIS AIN'T THE PLACE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- FEAR IS A GREAT MOTIVATOR. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT PEOPLE AFRAID TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND HURT ANYBODY HERE OR TAKE ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM.
>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO INTO OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. SO THE STATE REQUIRES US TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR ACTIONS AND OUR PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND TRAFFIC STOPS AND INTERACTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS. AND, SO, WHEN YOU CONSIDER RACIAL PROFILING, THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE SAYS IT IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT INITIATED ACTION BASED UPON AN INDIVIDUAL'S RACE, ETHNICITY OR ORIGIN INSTEAD OF ON THEIR BEHAVIOR. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE FOCUS ON. WE DON'T FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL. WE FOCUS ON THE OFFENSE.
IF THAT OFFENSE OCCURS IN FRONT OF AN OFFICER OR THAT IS REPORTED, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PERSON'S IDENTITY.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OBJECTIVES, THEY'RE SIMPLE. WE WANT TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, REDUCE UNSAFE DRIVING INCIDENTS AND TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND OUR GOAL IS TO OBTAIN VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. WE WANT TO DETER PEOPLE FROM VISIBILITY. SO WHEN YOU SEE OFFICERS, THERE IS AN INNATE RESPONSE FOR US TO SAY, I'M GOING TO SLOW DOWN. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE MORE OFFICERS WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, THE MORE WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND VISIBLE, THE INCREASED LIKELIHOOD THAT PEOPLE WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAWS.
SO WE DO HAVE A POLICY WITH THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT COVERS OUR BIAS POLICING GUIDELINES.
WE ALSO HAVE PROTOCOLS AND SYSTEMS ESTABLISHED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLAINTS THAT CAN FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY WERE RACIALLY PROFILED DURING A TRAFFIC ENCOUNTER.
WE ALSO HAVE DISCIPLINARY GUIDELINES FOR ANY OFFICER THAT'S FOUND TO HAVE VIOLATED THIS RACIAL PROFILING LAW. WE WILL ADDRESS THAT ACCORDINGLY IF WE EVER HAVE THAT. ALSO, WE DO RANDOM SEARCHES OF THE -- AND ASSESSMENTS OF THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE OF OFFICERS TO SEE -- TO LISTEN TO AND HEAR THE AUDIO AND VIDEO OF THE TRAFFIC STOPS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SEEING THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN REPORTED.
SO I WANT TO POINT THIS OUT. LAST YEAR, WE HAD 10,117 TRAFFIC STOPS. THAT IS UP FROM LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD ABOUT 7,000, A LITTLE OVER 7,000 TRAFFIC STOPS.
WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IN THIS CITY TREMENDOUSLY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT COLUMN, LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STOPS WE'RE MAKING ON OUR CITY STREETS.
THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR PATROLLING INSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND AROUND OUR BUSINESSES.
U.S. HIGHWAY IS 79. SO YOU WILL SEE WE MAKE MANY TRAFFIC STOPS THERE AS WELL.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT BREAKS DOWN THE RACE AND THE ETHNICITY BASED UPON THOSE 10,117 TRAFFIC STOPS.
LAST YEAR I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT UP WHO IS THE BEST DRIVER WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE CITY. LAST YEAR, FEMALES WERE THE BEST DRIVERS. THEY WERE THE BEST DRIVERS.
SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHO WAS THE BEST DRIVER THIS YEAR. FEMALES.
FEMALES GOT 3,440 TICKETS AND MEN GOT 6,667.
BEFORE PEOPLE GET EXCITED AND THINK THAT'S AWESOME THAT WOMEN ARE THE WINNERS, THOSE 3,440 TICKETS WEREN'T TO THE
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SUPER BOWL.THOSE WERE -- THOSE TICKETS -- SO THAT'S STILL A LOT OF TICKETS. SO, BUT I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE I'M IN THE LOSER CATEGORY.
I KNOW NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO MOTIVATE OUR MEN TO MAKE SURE WE CAN COME IN A LITTLE BETTER THAN FEMALES NEXT YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STOPS WE MADE, LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SEARCHES. OUT OF THE 10,000, OVER 10,000 TRAFFIC STOPS, WE ONLY SEARCHED 322 OF THOSE VEHICLES. AND SEARCHES ARE GENERALLY RELATE TO CONSENT GRANTED OR IF THERE IS CONTRABAND SEEN IN PLAIN VIEW, PROBABLY CAUSE THAT JUSTIFIED THEM SEARCHING THE VEHICLE, VEHICLE INVENTORY OR INCIDENT TO ARREST, THOSE ARE THE CATEGORIES WE USE WHEN WE'RE SEARCHING A WEEK. OUT OF THE TRAFFIC STOPS WE MADE, VERY FEW OF THOSE RESULT IN VEHICLES BEING SEARCHED. SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK THAT, WELL, HUTTO IS A SPEED TRAP. WE'RE REALLY NOT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF WRITTEN WARNINGS WE GIVE COMPARED TO CITATIONS, LAST YEAR WE GAVE 6,032 WARNINGS COMPARED TO 3,900 TRAFFIC CITATIONS.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. OUR GOAL IS TO EDUCATE.
I HOPE PEOPLE CAN COMPLY MOVING FORWARD.
OUT OF THE TRAFFIC STOPS WE MADE, WE HAD 37 ARRESTS THAT WERE RELATED TO PENAL CODE VIOLATIONS.
THAT MEANS LAW VIOLATIONS OTHER THAN A TRAFFIC -- TRAFFIC INFRACTION.
MEANS YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S HIT THE WHITE LINE A COUPLE TIMES.
IT'S A DWI. SO THAT PERSON GETS ARRESTED FOR THAT PENAL CODE VIOLATION. VIOLATION.
THIS BREAKS DOWN TO RACE AND DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. ARRESTS FOR CITY ORDINANCES.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T ARREST FOR CITY ORDINANCES.
WE DID MAKE ARRESTS FOR OUTSTANDING WARRANTS.
AND OUT OF THE 10,117 TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND ARRESTS RELATED TO THAT, WE ONLY HAD ONE INCIDENT WHERE OFFICERS HAD TO USE FORCE AND THAT RESULTED IN BODILY INJURY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN WE PICKED THEM UP AND SLAMMED THEM? NO.
BODY INJURY IS ANYONE FEELING PAIN, INCLUDING PAIN FROM YOUR HANDCUFFS.
WE HAD ONE INCIDENT WHERE OUR OFFICERS REPORTED AND HAD TO REPORT THAT WE HAD A PERP SON RESISTING.
THAT'S THAT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LAST THING. THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FILED FOR POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF RACIAL PROFILING OUT OF THE OVER 10,000 TRAFFIC STOPS WE MADE.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE RECEIVED NO OFFICIAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANY MOTORIST FEELING LIKE OR THINKING THAT THEY WERE RACIALLY PROFILED BY THE TRAFFIC STOP IN HUTTO. SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE AND EVEN BEFORE I GOT HERE, THAT WAS NOT A CONCERN THAT HAS EVER BEEN BROUGHT UP, THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO US RELATED TO SOMEONE FEELING LIKE THEY WERE PULLED OVER SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE.
AND WITH THAT, HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS RACIAL PROFILING LAWS. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO ARRESTS? I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION KNOWING WE HAVE CITY DEMOGRAPHICS AND MAKEUP OF EVERYTHING, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE THAT PASS THROUGH THE CITY.
>> ONE MORE? I DIDN'T WANT TO STOP YOU WHEN YOU WERE ON A ROLL. OKAY.
IF YOU COULD GO FORWARD. THERE IS ONE WHERE -- IT IS NOT THAT ONE.
IT IS NOT THAT ONE. IT IS NOT THAT ONE.
>> YEAH, SORRY. I'LL STOP YOU WHEN YOU GET THERE. OKAY.
I SEE THAT. WHEN THERE IS A SEARCH CONDUCTED AND RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES POPS UP WHAT I'M SEEING. 4,277 STOPS WHERE THE PERSON WAS DEEMED TO BE WHITE. THE FIRST THING I SEE IS IT LOOKS LIKE ALMOST A THIRD OF THE STOPS WERE BY SOMEONE CLASSIFIED AS A BLACK MOTORIST.
YET, THEY HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF SEARCHES.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD -- AND, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I KNOW WE HAVE OUR DEMOGRAPHIC AND THE PASSING THROUGH OUR CITY DEMOGRAPHIC AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS ALIGN.
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IS THERE ANYTHING ON THERE WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF SEARCHES AND THIS BEING DISPROPORTIONATE, I WOULD -->> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THE CHALLENGE YOU HAVE WITH DATA IS THERE IS SO MANY VARIABLES. LIKE YOU ARE SAYING, YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S PASSED THROUGH.
THESE ARE TRAFFIC STOPS. YOU WILL HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT PASSES THROUGH. SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY HAVE A VEHICLE AND YOU PULL THE PERSON OVER, JUST LIKE A FEW MONTHS BACK WE HAD A PERSON THAT WAS PULLED OVER, AND IT WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN GENTLEMAN AS A PASSENGER, AND THEY WERE PULLED OVER OUT EAST OF TOWN.
AND I HEARD IT COME OVER THE RADIO THAT THE VEHICLE THAT WAS PULLED OVER WAS WANTED IN AN AGGRAVATED ROBBERY OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO I PULLED UP AND STARTED TALKING WITH HIM.
WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE HAD AN ACTUAL WARRANT OUT OF SAN ANTONIO. THE PASSENGER DIDN'T.
SO IT'S THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DETERMINE WHO GETS A CITATION, WHO GETS THE -- WHO GETS ARRESTED. SO WE HAVE LITTLE TO NO CONTROL OVER A SITUATION WHERE A PERSON HAS AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT OR A PERSON IS SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU LET THE WINDOW DOWN AND YOU'VE GOT MARIJUANA AND DRUGS IN PLANE VIEW.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT RACE THAT PERSON IS. THEY WILL BE ARRESTED.
THE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE BY DIFFERENT VARIABLES.
BUT WE'RE TALKING NOT ONLY ABOUT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE PASSING THROUGH, PEOPLE GOING NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND ON THE TOLL.
SO THERE IS SO MANY VARIABLES TO WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PER CAPITA, THE SIZE IS TYPICALLY SO SMALL TO WHERE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DATA THERE TO SAY, WELL, IS THERE ANY DISPROPORTIONALITY. A LARGE NUMBER WHEN YOU LOOK AND SEE, DO WE KNOW THE RACE OF THE INDIVIDUAL BEFORE THE TRAFFIC STOP, THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER IS VERY, VERY, VERY LOW.
>> THANK YOU. I LOOKED AT THIS AS A SNAPSHOT, BUT ALSO SNOW PEOPLE LIKE SNAPSHOTS, AS YOU ARE AWARE AND TRY TO EXTRAPOLATE ISSUES.
GO TO THE SECOND-TO- LAST SIDE WHERE THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS. SO SOMETHING I JUST HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT. IF IT'S CONCERNING THE PUBLIC, WILL THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOU?
>> YES, SIR. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS, TOO, IS EVEN ON OUR CITATIONS, WHEN THE CITATIONS ARE ISSUED, THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ON RACIAL PROFILING AND HOW TO FILE A COMPLAINT. EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF THE VEHICLES SEARCHED AND THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS, WE'RE NOT GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU HAVE GOT A PERSON YOU ARE PULLING OVER, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A DWI, YOU ARE WRITING THEM A CITATION OR YOU ARE WRITING THEM A WARNING BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR PROBABLY CAUSE FOR THE STOP IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO EVERYONE IS GETTING THAT INFORMATION.
>> IF NO ONE HAS DOWN A RIDE- ALONG, THEY SHOULD.
BY DOING THEM, IT IS AMAZING. YOUR OFFICERS PULL PEOPLE OVER, AND PEOPLE ARE THANKING YOUR OFFICERS FOR PULLING THEM OVER. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GETTING A TICKET OR A WARNING, BUT THEY'RE LAUGHING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME. THAT'S PRETTY COOL WHEN YOU CAN PULL SOMEBODY OVER, STOP THEM AND YOU HEAR, ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
AND THE OFFICERS COME BACK AND SAY, THEY JUST THANKED YOU FOR STOPPING THEM. GOOD STUFF.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. THE DEPARTMENT DOES A GOOD JOB WITH BEING PROACTIVE IN TRAINING AND TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH SO THAT THEY CAN REACT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE SO PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. PLEASE KEEP IT UP.
PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED RESOURCES TO DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT BETTER.
YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO IT ALL THE TIME, JUST THE UPDATES AND STORIES. BUT, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIANCE AND ALSO CONTINUING TO, YOU KNOW, SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY, KEEPING THE COMMUNITY SAFE AND, YEAH, JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[9.2. Presentation to discuss the development known as Hutto Gateway on a parcel of land labeled the Wolfe Tract. (Sara Cervantes) ]
>> NEXT WE HAVE 9- 2, PRESENTATION TO DISCUSS THE DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS HUTTO GATEWAY ON A PARTIAL OF LAND LABELED THE WOLF TRACT.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, EVERYTHING I BRING YOU IS NOT AS COOL AS THE CHIEF'S.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST DIRECTIVE WE RECEIVED FROM U.S. COUNCIL WANTING DEVELOPERS TO COME TO YOU PRELIMINARILY IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP LAND OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT CCM.
THIS IS THE FIRST FIRST DEVELOPER WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU. I WILL CALL THEM UP TO PRESENT, AND WE WILL LET THE DISCUSSION FLOW FROM THERE.
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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS ROBERT DEACON.
I'M WITH REALTO STUDIO. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, HOPEFULLY ONE OF US WILL BE ABLE TO FIELD THOSE QUESTIONS. SO WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? PRIMARILY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THIS GREAT PROJECT WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT. THE NEW COMMUNITY THAT COULD BE A GATEWAY AND A DESTINATION FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO BUILD, HOW IT WILL BENEFIT THE CITY AND WHAT WE NEED FROM THE CITY TO MAKE THIS VISION HAPPEN. AND THEN WE WANT TO LISTEN.
WE WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK, YOUR IDEAS, YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY SOME INDICATION OF YOUR SUPPORT, SOME INDICATION OF HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO REALITY.
AS I SAID, WE'RE CALLING THIS PROJECT THE GATEWAY AT HUTTO. IT IS A VERY GOOD REASON FOR THAT. YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT IS LOCATED, AT THE CORNER OF THE HIGHWAY AND 137.
THIS IS A STRATEGIC LOCATION ALONG THE NEW EAST HIGHWAY.
BUT WITH THIS PROJECT YOU PUT AN ANCHOR THERE ON THE PROJECT THAT WELCOMES THEM, GIVES THE CITY REAL PRESENCE ALONG THAT NEW HIGHWAY.
AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL SAW THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU DID YOUR 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU PROPOSED THE FUTURE ACTIVITY CENTER AT THIS VERY LOCATION.
OUR PROJECT ALIGNS VERY WELL WITH THAT. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT TO CREATE AN ACTIVITY CENTER ALONG THAT HIGHWAY. THIS IS OUR OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. THIS PLAN IS REALLY MORE OF A CONCEPT PLAN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE USES WILL BE AND WHERE THEY WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE OVERALL PROJECT. SO YOU CAN SEE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT.
137 IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A TRUE MIXED USE COMMUNITY, WITH A WIDE RANGE OF USES, COMMERCIAL USES CLUSTERED AROUND THAT KEY INTERSECTION AND THEN FEATHERING OUT TO MORE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT CLUSTER TOWARDS THE COMMERCIAL AND REDUCE TO SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRANSITIONING AND BUFFERING. OF COURSE, YOU SEE THE REALLY BIG GREEN AND BLUE BLOB RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WHOLE THING. THIS IS BUILT AROUND OPEN SPACE AND AROUND THAT EXISTING LAKE.
MORE THAN A QUARTER OF THE COMMUNITY WILL BE OPEN SPACE. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE HERE IN A MOMENT. THERE IS AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND IN USE AS IT IS, AND THEN JUST NOTING THAT ALMOST 40 ACRES OF THE SITE HAS ALREADY BEEN CONTRIBUTED RIGHT AWAY FOR THE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN REALITY? LET'S START TO PUT SOME MEAT ON THOSE BONES AND SEE WHAT THIS COMMUNITY MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY PROPOSING HERE A RESIDENT, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED MIXED USE COMMUNITY WITH A REAL SMALL TOWN CHARM. REAL WALKABLE AND ORIENTED AROUND THAT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE.
ONE OF THE PIECES WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS THE BRIDGE OVER THE LAKE THAT WILL REALLY PROVIDE THAT GATEWAY MOMENT WITHIN THE PROJECT. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM THE HIGHWAY. A LOT OF COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS DO A BIG MONUMENT SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE SEE THAT AS A WAY TO CREATE THE GATEWAY UNIT AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES REAL UTILITY FOR THE PARK USERS WHO WILL BE CIRCLING THAT LAKE AND REALLY ENJOYING THAT PARK.
LET'S ZOOM IN ON THAT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON THE CORNER OF EAST WILCO HIGHWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 137. THIS AREA IS REALLY CLUSTERED INTO THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY WHERE WE PICTURE A SMALL TOWN MAIN STREET FEEL, LEADING INTO A COUPLE OF HIGH- END RESTAURANTS THAT WOULD BE OVERLOOKING THE LAKE.
WE WANT TO DELIVER AN EXCEPTIONAL RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE WITH PATIOS AND FAMILY- ORIENTED ATMOSPHERE. WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A HOTEL AND CONFERENCE CENTER IN THIS PART OF THE PROJECT. THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL WELL- WOODED LAND OVER THE LAKE THAT WE THINK WOULD BE A REALLY PERFECT SITE FOR THIS KIND OF USE AND RETAIL CLUSTER ALONG THAT STREET.
AND THEN SOUTH OF THE HIGHWAY WE SEE THE REGIONAL FOCUS FOR THE RETAIL THERE AS WELL AS SOME OFFICE USES. OUR HOPE IS TO WORK TO ATTRACT A GROCER TO THE SITE. WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD SITE FOR A GROCER BUT REALLY PROVIDING REGIONAL RETAIL USES THERE.
THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THE FIRST PHASE OF THE RESIDENTIAL, REALLY FEATHERS FROM THE
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MULTIFAMILY OVERLOOKING THE LAKE AND NEAR THE HIGHWAY, OUT TO TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO THE NEIGHBORING HOMES.THIS DIVISION HERE, AGAIN, IS A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AROUND PORCHES THAT OPEN ON TO PLEASANT STREETS AND OPEN SPACE AND REALLY CREATE A COMPLETE COMMUNITY FEEL WITH HOUSING OPTIONS THAT SUIT A WIDE RANGE OF AGES AND LIFE STAGES.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE IS THE OPEN SPACE.
THAT REALLY IS THE CORE OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT, ORIENTED AROUND THE EXISTING LAKES THAT WILL PROVIDE A GREAT RECREATIONAL RESOURCE FOR THE PROJECT.
WE WILL BUILD TRAILS, CAPITALIZING ON THE LARGE LIVE OAKS YOU WILL FIND WITHIN THAT OPEN SPACE THERE. WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A LARGE SORT OF COMMUNITY PARK AREA WHERE YOU SEE THE OVAL JUST NORTHWEST OF THE LAKE. THERE IS AN EXISTING RANCH HOUSE THERE THAT CAN BE REFURBISHED AS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND A LARGE LAWN TO HOST COMMUNITY EVENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. THE INTENT IS FOR THIS TO BE A PUBLIC PARK OPEN FOR THE CITIZENRY BUT MAINTAINED AND OPERATED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE IS LOTS OF OTHER OPEN SPACE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, INCLUDING GREENBELTS TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE BUFFERS IN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
THE GOAL HERE IS EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE A FEW STEPS AWAY FROM WONDERFUL OPEN SPACE THAT WILL PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. GOING BACK TO THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN HERE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO BUILD HERE? AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS OVER A THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL UNITS PROPOSED, OVER 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN OVER 73 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHICH WOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE TO CITIZENS OF HUTTO. A REALLY MONUMENTAL PROJECT, A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO.
AT THIS LOCATION, IT IS A REALLY GREAT FIT FOR THE SITE AND I THINK COULD BE A REALLY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. WE GO BACK TO THE RENDERING THAT WE STARTED, THE PRESENTATION WITH NOW THAT YOU HAVE GOT YOURSELF OR NOTED TO THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE. THIS IS THE VIEW TRAVELING EAST LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, THAT ICONIC BRIDGE CROSSING THE LAKE, RESTAURANTS BEYOND THE BRIDGE WITH PATIOS OVERLOOKING THE LAKE, MAIN STREET BEHIND THAT, AND THEN A CONFERENCE HOTEL ANCHORING THAT BACK IN THE WOODS APPROPRIATELY BUFFERED IN SURROUNDING USES. SO THIS IS THE VISION THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT AND A VISION THAT I HOPE THAT YOU ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO ASK FOR.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE OR ANYTHING TONIGHT.
WE JUST WANT TO LAY OUT THE BROAD PARAMETERS OF WHAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO INSTALL A SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 137 AND EAST WILCO HIGHWAY AND TO COMPLETE THE -- THE DESIGNATED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 137 ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF OUR PROJECT WHICH WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU ARE ALREADY DESIGNING NORTH OF OUR PROJECT TO 1660, WOULD BASICALLY GIVE YOU A FULLY IMPROVED COUNTY ROAD 137 ALL THE WAY UP TO 138 UP TO 1660. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THAT AT THE DEVELOPMENT'S COST. ALL WE WOULD ASK IS THAT THAT -- THOSE IMPROVEMENTS COUNT AS OUR TRANSPORTATION FEES FOR THE CITY. THE SECOND IS, OF COURSE, WATER WASTE AND WATER SERVICE.
WE'RE ASKING THE CITY FOR WATER WASTE AND WATER SERVICE FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT WOULD BUILD A NEW WATER LOOP OVERSIZED FOR FUTURE USERS AS WELL AS A WASTE WATER STATION TO ALLOW THIS TO BE CONNECTED TO YOUR WATER SYSTEM. ALL THAT WOULD BE AT THE COST OF THE PROJECT. ADDITIONALLY THE PROJECT WOULD OF COURSE PAY THE APPROPRIATE IMPACT FEES FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO.
WE'RE PROVIDING ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET WATER SERVICE FROM THE CITY. AND THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS WE ARE PROPOSING TO FULLY ANNEX OUR PROJECT INTO THE CITY OF HUTTO.
A LOT OF PROJECTS GO THE OTHER WAY AND DEVELOP ON THEIR OWN. WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO BRING THIS MISSION TO REALITY, SO WE WOULD BE FULLY ANNEXING TO THE CITY OF HUTTO, PARTNERING TO DEVELOP A ZONING AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD NOT ONLY ALLOW US TO DELIVER THIS SUPERIOR VISION FOR THE PROJECT BUT GIVE YOU CERTAINTY THAT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO UNDER YOUR ZONING ORDINANCES.
IT WOULD BRING US INTO YOUR TAX BASE BOTH WITH SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL. AND WE DELIVER THESE INCREDIBLE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. OF COURSE, WE USE SOME FINANCING TOOLS TO DO THAT. SO WE ALL TALK ABOUT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALREADY TONIGHT.
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PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT COMBINED TOGETHER TO ALLOW US TO FUND THIS WIDE RANGE OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS TO WORLD CLASS PARK THAT WILL BE A RESOURCE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO JUST THE QUALITY MIXED USE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY IS THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED VISION FOR THIS LOCATION AND I THINK WOULD BE A REAL ASSET TO THE CITY AND ALLOW YOU TO MAKE USEFUL WILCO HIGHWAY A REAL ASSET FOR THE CITY AND NOT JUST A BYPASS.SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AS I SAID, WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE TO ANSWER DETAILED QUESTIONS IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM.
BUT I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR FEEDBACK AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
>> SO ONE OF MINE THAT I SEE THE HIGH NUMBER OF VALUE REQUIREMENTS. BUT MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE TAKEDOWN OF THOSE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THEM TODAY AND WE'RE WORKING TO DO THAT.
SO WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME? EVEN IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THIS, WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU WERE ENVISIONING TO NEED THOSE CONNECTIONS?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S ESTABLISHED IN STONE BY ANY MEANS AT THIS POINT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE EAGER TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS THE CITY IS READY TO MOVE. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME WATER SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH YOU.
I THINK WE WOULD EVEN ASK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WHILE WE WORK ON THE WATER COMMITMENTS.
SO IF THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THIS ARE ACCEPTABLE AND DESIRABLE TO THE CITY, ET CETERA, WE WOULD LOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PIECES AND GET THOSE AGREEMENTS SETTLED, FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR DEAL IS THERE AND HAVE THAT READY TO GO WHEN THE WATER PIECE GETS FIGURED OUT.
>> CAN YOU GO OVER HOW THE DEVELOPMENT'S PARTICIPATION IN IMPROVING 137 UP TO 1660, IS THAT RIGHT? CAN YOU JUST GO OVER THAT AGAIN SO I'M CLEAR ON
SO CURRENTLY THE CITY IS ALREADY WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT EXTENDS FROM THE CREEK CROSSING THERE UP TO 1660 AND IMPROVES 137 ALONG THAT STRETCH.
SO WE WOULD BE IMPROVING THE STRETCH THAT EXTENDS ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF OUR PROPERTY, IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION AND WIDENING THE ROAD ALONG THAT ENTIRE FRONTAGE.
>> ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CREEK AND UP THE
PROPERTY. >> IT IS A CITY PROJECT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALREADY
UNDERWAY. >> OR THE SOUTH SIDE, SORRY.
>> CORRECT. DOWN TO 138 WOULD BE WHAT WE ARE WIDENING, EXPANDING AND
IMPROVING. >> I DO LIKE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PUT A SIGNAL THERE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A CHALLENGE EVEN TODAY.
SO OBVIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE, IT WILL JUST BECOME MORE OF A CHALLENGE. I DO LIKE THAT.
WE KNOW THAT'S A STRONG NEED. AND THAT'S WHY THE COMMITMENT WE'RE READY TO MAKE IS TO MAKE THAT SIGNAL PART OF OUR FIRST PHASE, NOT TO WAIT UNTIL OUR GENERATION TRIGGERS IT, BUT TO MAKE THAT A PART OF OUR FIST PHASE. WE PUT THAT SIGNAL IN AS SOON AS WE HAD THE VOTE THAT YOU HAD EARLIER TONIGHT TO APPROVE THE PIT BOND, THAT SIGNAL IS THE FIRST
PRIORITY. >> AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION.
WOULD YOUR PROJECT HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST?
>> YES, THERE WOULD BE CONNECTIVITY WHERE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS STEPPED OUT TO OUR PROJECT.
>> AND YOU CAN -- YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS PLAN.
THERE ARE TWO STEPS, THE BASE OF THE PROJECT.
THAT IS THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.
THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH ALSO HAS A STUB THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT CONNECTING AS WELL.
>> COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD,
PLEASE. >> ROBERT DEGAN WITH REALTO STUDIO.
>> ROBERT, WHAT IS STOPPING YOU GUYS FROM CONTINUING -- BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT YOU DO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO 138.
WHAT IS STOPPING YOU GUYS FROM GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ROW LANE? BECAUSE I GOT TO IMAGINE THAT'S GOT TO BE AN ENTRANCE INTO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY GOING ALL THE WAY.
AND, SO, UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL BE DOING ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT IS STOPPING YOU FROM GOING ALL THAT WAY?
>> I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE STUDIED THAT YET.
I WOULD IMAGINE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE A CONSTRAINT.
WE WILL BE DONATING WHAT IS NECESSARY TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
ONCE WE GET AWAY FROM OUR FRONTAGE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE CONTROL ANYMORE, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
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CITY TO GET THAT RIGHT AWAY CONDEMNED. TYPICALLY IT'S MORE STANDARD TO WAIT UNTIL THAT LAND DEVELOPS AND HAVE THAT LAND IMPROVEMENT THE ROADWAY THERE UNLESS THE CITY CREATES THEIR OWN PROJECT TO DO IT.AGAIN, I HAVE NOT STUDIED THAT. THIS IS -- I'M JUST SPECULATING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WITH OUR TEAM HAS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
>> YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT AFTER, YOU KNOW, YOU DEVELOP WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT HERE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT?
>> I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, ALL -- WHATEVER COMMUNITY BENEFITS WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE PROJECT, ALL THAT COMES BACK TO KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT WORKS WITHIN THE PROJECT AND THE FINANCING STRUCTURES. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRIORITY FOR THE CITY, IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT AND BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT, TO HEAR WHAT PRIORITIES DO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND DIG IN ON THE STUDY.
>> AND THEN THAT EAST WILCO HIGHWAY, HAVE YOU ALREADY BEGUN CONVERSATIONS TO UNDERSTAND HOW BIG IT IS, HOW WIDE IT IS, IT WON'T INTERFERE WITH WHAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING TO DO IN THAT AREA?
>> YES, WE HAVE BEGUN SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THAT'S THE FULL BUILD- OUT DEPICTED ON THE PLAN HERE, NOT JUST WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.
>> TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON, 137, THAT'S THE COUNTY'S ROAD RIGHT THERE THAT CONTINUES SOUTH. AND THEN IT TURNS INTO TRAVIS COUNTY AS WELL. SO ME PERSONALLY, IT'S NOT A CITY INTEREST.
>> YOU KNOW, ALSO, WE RECENTLY UPDATED OUR -- WE WENT THIS ROUTE. WE UPDATED OUR TRAFFIC AND TECH FEES. WHEN YOU LOOK TO CALCULATE YOURS, YOU WOULD ALSO BE PUTTING IN -- I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT YOU DO THIS IN LIEU OF THE OTHER.
IT WOULD BE A CREDIT TOWARDS BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE THAT THE IMPACT FEE IS GREATER THAN JUST THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IN WHICH CASE, YOU DON'T GET THAT REFUNDED. IT WOULD BE A CREDIT TOWARDS -- THAT WOULD BE A MINIMUM LEVEL PLUS IF THE FEE IS SUCH THAT IT WOULD BE A CREDIT -- THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE A CREDIT TOWARD THAT FEE IF THERE IS ANY LEFTOVER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> SO, I MEAN, THE MAIN REASON YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE CURRENTLY NOT IN OUR WATER CCM, RIGHT? AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR US TO -- TO BRING YOU IN.
WHAT IS THE REASON THAT MANVILLE CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR WATER TODAY?
>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER IN WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE WATER SUPPLY. OUR DESIRE IS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO. WE THINK THIS PROJECT BRINGS A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF HUTTO.
WE THINK WE'RE OFFERING A LOT OF BENEFITS THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO REALITY. AS MUCH AS WE COULD MAKE EVERY ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, THAT WOULD BE OUR PREFERENCE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE WE WORK TO DELIVER WATER AND WORK WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT. BUT OUR HOPE IS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO ON ALL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT REALITY.
>> BUT WHAT'S THE REASON? WHY -- WHY DO YOU WANT TO GET WATER FROM HUTTO? IS IT MORE COST- EFFECTIVE FOR YOU TO DO IT THAT WAY? IS IT -- I MEAN --
>> I'M GOING TO LET OUR CIVIL ENGINEER FIELD THIS QUESTION.
>> YEAH, SO CLOSE. GOOD EVENING.
I'M SETH WITH GRANGE ENGINEERING.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH MANVILLE REGARDING WATER. THEY ARE WORKING ON LARGE- SCALE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO BRING MORE WATER TO THIS AREA.
THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE FAR EDGE OF THEIR CCM.
SO IT'S -- YOU MIGHT CALL IT SOMETHING OF A NO MAN'S LAND IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE WORKED WITH MATT TO GET ANALYSIS, AND WE HAVE HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION WITH MANVILLE. THEIR TIME LINES ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE CITY OF HUTTO'S TIME LINE IN TERMS OF GETTING WATER TO THE PROJECT.
IT IS -- MAYBE IT IS NOT SIX ONE, HALF A DOZEN OF THE OTHER.
MIGHT BE FIVE AND SEVEN WHERE IT IS EASIER TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO AS THEY'RE WORKING ON BRINGING INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE AREA.
>> OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU COULD POSSIBLY GET WATER FROM MANVILLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS EASIER AND PREFERABLE TO GET IT FROM HUTTO. IF WE WERE TO SAY NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THIS, WE DON'T WANT TO INCREASE OUR CCN,
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IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT?>> CORRECT. IT IS JUST THE PREFERENCE OF THE PROJECT. ONE UTILITY PROVIDER GIVE PEOPLE ONE STRUCTURE, IT IS PROBABLY EASIEST THAT WAY. BUT, NO, IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE DEAL BREAKER.
>> HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, STARTING THE CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE D.A.
>> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A YEAR IN TERMS OF THE FIRST TIME WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO THE STAFF.
AND THEN ROBERT AND HIS FIRM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE PROJECT FOR SIX MONTHS IN A MORE INTENSE FORMAT.
>> ALWAYS GOT COMMENTS ON THESE. I WILL GIVE YOU THE TOUGH ONES THAT PEOPLE WON'T APOLOGIZE FOR ME ON. THE WATER THING IS MY CONCERN.
I HAVEN'T BEEN A PROPONENT OF GIVING ANY KIND OF WATER.
IF THEY BROUGHT IN A GROCERY STORE, I COULD SEE GIVING WATER TO THE GROCERY STORE AND CUTTING IT OFF THERE. I UNDERSTAND THE PREDICAMENT YOU GUYS ARE IN. THAT'S THE BAD ONE.
GOING FROM THERE, I THINK THE PROJECT IS AWESOME.
YOU GUYS ARE GOOD DEVELOPERS. I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DEALINGS, YOU ARE NOT AFRAID TO PUT THE DETAILS IN THE AGREEMENTS. WHERE OTHERS SAY, HERE'S THE GREAT PICTURE. AND THEN YOU GO, WAIT A MINUTE.
I THINK I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. WHEREAS, WE'LL JUST DO THIS.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS HAS TO BE EXACTLY WHEN THE AGREEMENT COMES FOR US, BUT WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE DOING 730 MULTI- FAMILY, 285 RESIDENTIAL AND 665,000 COMMERCIAL. AS LONG AS WE'RE CLOSE TO THAT AND THAT'S ALL IN WRITING TO WHERE YOU COME BACK AND GO, HEY, THE MARKET CHANGED AND WE WILL NOW BUILD LIKE 8,000 APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T LIKE THAT.
WE DO HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT WILL COME BACK AND KIND OF TELL US KIND OF A SAD STORY AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ONE TO GO, THAT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS. SO I LIKE YOUR GUYS' PLAN FROM THAT STANDPOINT. IT IS, TO ME, IT LOOKS A LOT MORE HEAVILY INTO COMMERCIAL, WHICH I THINK THIS CORRIDOR, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY WHEN THIS HIGHWAY FIRST CAME OUT, IF YOU WILL HAVE THIS, THEN YOU NEED TO EXPECT TO HAVE COMMERCIAL AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL IS THAT ANYBODY THAT LIVES HERE AS TO GO NORTH FOR ANY KIND OF SERVICE. WITH ENOUGH COMMERCIAL DOWN HERE, I THINK THIS WILL BRING SERVICES TO WHERE BETWEEN US WORKING THE 1660, 137 DOWN SECTION, THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO GET SERVICES.
I CAN SEE MORE THINGS COMING. SO I LIKE THAT PART. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.
I DON'T MIND IF IT IS PUTTING IN SIGNALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF IT AKES AWAY TAX REVENUE, I'M NOT AGREEING WITH THAT. WHATEVER YOU SAID IN A MEETING, AS WE GET CLOSER TO, AGAIN, I LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM IN THERE WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO WHERE IT IS NOT EXACTLY 285. IT COULD BE 290.
BUT YOU CAN CHANGE THE NAME ON SOMETIMES NAME IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. OTHER TIMES IT IS NOT.
SO IT IS THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I THINK WHEN THE AGREEMENT COMES UP, YOU WILL KNOW. I LIKE GUYS WHO ARE FULLY ANNEXING. AGAIN, NO ONE -- YOU GUYS AREN'T IMMUNE TO THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF I WANT MORE HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL.
BUT I ALSO KNOW IF YOU GET WATER THROUGH MANVILLE AND GO THE PACKAGED PLAN ROUTE, THAT'S EASIER THAN JACKING WITH US AND ALL THAT. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE ANNEXING IN. THAT ASSURES YOU ARE UNDER OUR CODES AND OUR ORDINANCES AND THEN WE WORK WITH YOU.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE PIPES OVER YET.
BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC I DON'T THINK HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE WASTE WATER SIDE.
IT IS ALL WATER FOCUSED. THE WATER LOOP, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING ON THE WATER LOOP.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF REDUNDANCY IN THE CITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD WHERE SOMEHOW WE'RE WORKING A JOINT AGREEMENT TO WHERE THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE PUT INTO A LOOP.
THE WATER IS COMING FROM MANVILLE, BUT THEN ALSO, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE MAY NEED WATER DUE TO A BREAK OR
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SOMETHING. CAN WE USE WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE TO HELP HAVE THE REDUNDANT BACKUP IN THE SOUTH SIDE? THE TRANSPORTATION FEES, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CLARK. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WERE PROPOSING ANYWAY. BUT IT IS NOT LIKE, HEY, WE WILL BUILD THIS INTERSECTION.IN EXCHANGE, WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY $8 MILLION IN FEES.
IT IS SOME SORT OF CREDIT SYSTEM.
BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE OVERALL USED TO THAT.
THE SIGNAL I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS THIS DEVELOPS AND THERE IS A CONCERT, IT IS JUST SCREWED UP RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THE ROAD, BUT WHEN THEY GET THAT DONE, THERE IS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN. TO ME, THAT ALLEVIATES US HAVING TO SELL BONDS AND PEOPLE'S TAXES.
WE WILL MAKE YOU DO THE FUTURE BUILDOUT OF THINGS FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT. NOW WE TEND TO LET NEIGHBORHOODS COME IN AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HERE WE'RE MAKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT.
SO WE CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS KIND OF I THINK THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING.
I ALSO LIKE THE OPEN SPACE. THE MOST YOU CAN KEEP IT AT, THE BETTER. THAT'S A BIG THING FOR PEOPLE.
THE PID, TOTALLY OKAY WITH THE PID.
I LIKE THE ICONIC BRIDGE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MEMORIALIZE THAT IN A DOCUMENT TO WHERE, AGAIN, WE SO THAT.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NAME. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE AN EXACT SAME THING, BUT SOMETHING GETS PUT IN THERE, WHICH I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL, THIS IS MORE FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT JUST WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE PIECES OF PAPER AND COME BACK LATER WITH THE PLAN. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.
I NOTICE A QUARTER OF YOUR WHOLE THING IS GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS VERY UNUSUAL. SOME OF IT IS TOPOGRAPHY.
YOU GUYS ARE TAKING, I THINK, A LOT BETTER LOOK IN TERMS OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO LOOK. AND I ALREADY SAID SERVICES ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE PERCENT OF USES FAIRLY CLOSE, I THINK THAT KNOWING IT COULD CHANGE TIMES, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. I LIKE HOW YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL. IT TRANSITIONS INTO TOWNHOMES AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY. NOW YOU HAVE AGAIN, CON CONCEPTUALLY. BUT YOU HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY ON THE HIGHWAY AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING THE MULTIFAMILY A THOUSAND FEET BACK IN. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR COMMERCIAL RIGHT UP ON THE INTERSECTION OR THE CORNER, WHICH IS A FUTURE COMMERCIAL BEING. SO YOU GUYS TRYING TO BUILD APARTMENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU ARE TAKING A WHOLE LOT BETTER LOOK AT THIS THAN MOST PEOPLE. SETH, RIGHT?
>> MAYBE YOU NEED TO HELP SOME OF THE GUYS OUT WITH SOME OF THAT.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE STAFF COMES BACK BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE DEVIL WILL BE IN THE DETAILS.
IF THE AGREEMENT MATCHES UP AND THERE IS THINGS THAT WE CAN HOLD YOU GUYS TO CERTAIN THINGS, THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. BUT IF WE GET AN AGREEMENT AND IT STARTS GETTING VAGUE AND ALL THIS STUFF COULD CHANGE BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY START HATING ME. BUT ANYWAY, APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION.
>> I AGREE. MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN WITH THIS WAS THE WATER. TAKING 2,000 IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO COMMIT TO RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE FACT THAT SOME OF OUR PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON PEOPLE BRINGS US WATER THAT ISN'T HERE YET AND THINGS CAN GO WRONG. UNTIL WE HAVE THE WATER, WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF PAUSE.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MANVILLE, MANVILLE CURRENTLY PROVIDES SOME OF OUR WATER FOR OUR UTILITY. I WONDER IF THERE IS A WAY TO PARTNER WITH MANVILLE WHERE MAYBE THEY ARE USING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET IT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER IN THE BEGINNING OR FOREVER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM WHERE THEY WILL BE SUPPLYING THE WATER, BUT IT IS COMING THROUGH SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO DO THAT THAT STILL BENEFITS THE CITY.
MAYBE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. BUT WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO GIVE 2,000 OUT OF OUR LIMITED FUTURE SUPPLY IF MANVILLE CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU GUYS.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.
I WOULD ECHO A LOT OF THE MAYOR'S POINTS.
I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT EVERYBODY COMES IN AND GIVES US PRETTY PICTURES. AND THIS LOOKS REALLY GREAT.
AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T LOCK IN EVERY SINGLE USE HERE.
THAT DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW,
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YEARS AND YEARS TO BUILD OUT. BUT WE NEED TO LOCK IN SOME OF IT. LOCKING IN THE GREEN SPACE, YOU KNOW. AND YOU SAID YOU HAD TO MEMORIALIZE THE BRIDGE. IF THE BRIDGE IS THE CENTERPIECE, THE BRIDGE HAS TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? IF YOU DON'T BUILD THE BRIDGE, THEY SAY, OH, IT IS A BAIT AND SWITCH. SO IF YOU CAN COMMIT TO THE BRIDGE, YOU CAN COMMIT TO CERTAIN THINGS, ONE NO- BRAINER I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST ADD IN THAT SHOULD NOT BE VERY DIFFICULT IS JUST CONNECT YOUR TRAILS DIRECTLY TO THE THEME PARK AND GIVE THAT TO THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE ONE.IT IS A PRETTY SHORT DISTANCE, SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE A BIG CONCERN.
AND THEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR TRAIL PLAN OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WHAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE WEST THERE.
BUT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE SURE WE GET A GOOD CONNECTION THERE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE A BETTER PART OF OUR PLAN IN THE FUTURE, TO EXPAND THAT BACK OUT TOWARDS 130 AND NORTH FROM THERE.
SO MAKING IT BETTER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. YEAH.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THERE IS A WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE IT IS A REALLY -- LOOKS LIKE A REALLY QUALITY PRODUCT YOU HAVE PLANNED HERE.
BUT THE WATER IS THE BIG THING TO FIGURE OUT.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS A LOT OF THINKING AND MAYBE SOME CREATIVITY. IF WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT ADDING TO OUR COMMITMENT, THEN I HAVE A LOT LESS REASON TO SAY NO TO THIS RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF -- WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON HAS SAID, I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE HOTEL AND CONFERENCE CENTER THERE. I REALLY LIKE THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT. RIGHT NOW OUR HOTELS ARE KIND OF CLUSTERED IN ONE PART OF TOWN.
AND THIS KIND OF SEEMS KIND OF RESORT STYLE, LIKE A PRODUCT THAT YOU WOULD BRING. I DRIVE THIS ROAD EVERY OTHER DAY, MOST DAYS. AND, SO, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER IT IS NOT WINTER AND THE WIND IS BLOWING. BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS PRODUCT WOULD BE VERY NATURAL LOOKING AND I REALLY LIKE THAT CONFERENCE CENTER.
THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BY GROUPS, AND IT COULD BE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO, RIGHT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE A SPACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, LARGE GROUPS CAN GATHER FOR CONFERENCES OR EVEN JUST LIKE A SMALL WEDDING.
WE DO HAVE A LOCATION FOR THAT. BUT LIKE A LARGE WEDDING, RIGHT? BUT THIS WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE US ANOTHER AMENITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SERVE FOLKS IN HUTTO BUT ALSO OUTSIDE TO BRING THEM TO OUR CITY.
I GUESS A QUESTION FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, I SEE THERE IS TWO SECTIONS OF MULTIFAMILY. HAVE YOU ALL KIND OF HONED IN AS TO HOW MANY LUES THAT WOULD REQUIRE ON EACH OF THE TWO? OR HAVE Y'ALL NOT GOTTEN THERE YET? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE HOTEL WOULD LIKELY HAVE A LOT OF LUE USAGE, BUT MAYBE IF WE COULD CUT DOWN ON ONE OF THEM, I'M OKAY WITH ONE MULTIFAMILY, BUT IT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL TO CHANGE THE USAGE OF THE SECOND. BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THETHE IS REALLY IMPACTFUL, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT
WE HAVE THE UNIT COUNTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE PLANNING ONGOING THROUGH THE SLIDES.
THEY'RE RIGHT ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IN TERMS OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT COUNT VERSUS TOWNHOUSE AND RESIDENTIAL IN TERMS OF WHAT USE IS MORE INTENSE IN THE WATER. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CERTAIN COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, AND THAT COULD BE HIGHER INTENSITY IN TERMS OF WATER DEMANDS THAN THE FAMILY.
WE COULD MAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS A GUARANTEE THAT SWAPPING IT OUT --
>> NO, I TOTALLY AGREES. JUST A QUESTION WORTH ASKING. IF IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE, IF IT KNOCKS IT FROM 2,000 TO 1,500, RIGHT? YEAH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL.
IF NOT, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
>> A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS I REALLY LIKE THE HOTEL CONCEPT OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER. I MEAN, IT IS REALLY CLOSE TO OUR PARK AND OUR AMPHITHEATRE.
ONCE WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT THING PROGRAMMED AND GOING WELL, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPLIMENT.
I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO FINISH OFF THAT COUNTER AT 137 BETWEEN EAST LOCAL HIGHWAY AND WHERE WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE I HAVE TALKED TO THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO WIDEN THAT ROAD, SO WE WILL HAVE THIS NICE, BEAUTIFUL, WIDE SECTION FROM
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1660 TO THE CREEK AND THEN THIS BIG GAP AND THEN YOU GET TO EAST WILCO HIGHWAY, WHICH IS WHERE EVERYONE WILL BE GOING. SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN YOU SAID THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR PLAN, AS WELL AS THE LIGHT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND IT IS PRETTY DANGEROUS THERE ON THAT GAP. I TRIED IT A COUPLE TIMES.I DON'T DRIVE IT THAT OFTEN. BUT WHEN I DO, IT IS NOT FUN.
SO, YEAH, FOR ME, THE BIG THING LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS THE CONCERN. FOR ME, IT IS CAN WE WORK WITH YOU? IF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY AND WE WILL ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND GET ALL THE TRAFFIC, JUST GO IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET WATER FROM US KPER VERSUS HAVING THE TAX BENEFIT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO HELP FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S A BIG CONSIDERATION FOR ME. I REALLY LIKE HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL IS THERE. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL WAS GOING TO BE THERE.
THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN I WAS THINKING BEFORE THE PRESENTATION. I WAS GOING TO ASK, CAN WE GET A COPY OF THIS PULLED INTO OUR TEAM'S FOLDER OF THIS PRESENTATION?
>> SO I HAD ONE LAST THING. I ECHOED WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, I REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT. I TOLD YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE. I DO LIKE, I THINK IT IS AN INTERESTING IDEA, IF THERE IS SOME WAY WE COULD INTERCONNECT FOR A SHORT TIME THROUGH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR YOU GUYS AND ONCE WE OT LUES IN OUR FUTURE, WE COULD DIAL THAT BACK. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING WAY TO GO ABOUT THE PROBLEM. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE WANTING TO DEVELOP QUICKER. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BECAUSE YOU CAN BREAK IT OUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS WILL BE IN THE DETAILS, I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF FINALLY BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE KIND OF IN OUR AREA WHERE SOMEONE CAN GROW THEIR ENTIRE LIFE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IE, THEY'RE YOUNG, PROFESSIONAL, THEY HAVE BEEN IN A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT AND THEY'RE STILL IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, SAME AREA. THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO MOVE TO A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT MAYBE IT IS A THREE BEDROOM ON A 40 FOOT LOT. MAYBE THERE IS 50, 60 FOOT LOTS AS WELL, A LARGER HOME AS THEIR FAMILY GROWS.
AND THEY CAN GO BACK TO THE SMALLER HOME WHEN THEY'RE EMPTY NESTERS.
I LIKE THERE IS THAT TRANSITIONAL HOMEOWNER AS WELL. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE FIRST PART, THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME DUPLEX, WHATEVER.
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING THAT WOULD BE A UNIQUE THING FOR HUTTO.
>> YEAH. AND I DO SEE JUST FROM THIS CHART RIGHT HERE JUST KIND OF HOW THE CONNECTIVITY IS.
LIKE THIS WOULD BE ALL KIND OF -- BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPING IS VERY ROLLING OVER THERE, RIGHT? SO I LIKE THAT YOU CAN MOVE THROUGHOUT THE COMMERCIAL AND LIKELY THE RESIDENTIAL AS WELL UNDERNEATH THE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS RAISED UP AND THEN IT WILL GO EVEN MORE. SO I LIKE THAT IT DOESN'T GET PEOPLE OUT ON THE ROADS. IT WILL BE LIKE A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, JUST RESIDENTIAL -- NOT RESIDENTIAL BUT JUST LIKE A LOCAL ROOM, RIGHT? AND, SO, THAT'S GREAT.
YOUR ROUND- ABOUT RIGHT THERE, KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING.
I APPRECIATE THE DETAILS THAT YOU ALL PUT INSOFAR.
SO JUST SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE.
SEE YOU BACK, WHAT, ANOTHER MONTH?
[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
OKAY. NO SPECIAL MEETINGS NEXTNEXT UP CONSENT TO AGAIN TA ITEMS. AND I THINK IT WAS 10-2.
OH, WAIT, NO. 11- 2 TO PULL UP.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU PULL INTO CONCEPT 11- 2 AND THAT YOU PULL OUT OF CONCEPT 10-2.
AND THEN YOU REJECT 10-2. THAT'S MY PROPOSAL.
>> IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, I WILL PULL 10- 2 OUT.
10-4. AND THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL PULL 11- 2 INTO CONSENT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS 10- 1, 10- 3, 10- 5, 10- 6, 10- 7, 10- 9 AND 11-2.
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>> ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-054 authorizing the City Manager to execute an amendment to the Individual Project Order (IPO) with Sunland Group, LLC in the amount of $28,931.43 for design services to modify the design of the Adam Orgain Restroom project (CIP P19-2024). (Matt Rector)]
>> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10- 2, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBERER R-2025- 054, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ORDER IPO WITH SUMLIN GROUP LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,931. 43 FOR DESIGN SERVICES TO MODIFY THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT CIP P-19-2024.
>> HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS IN MY ONE-ON- ONE YESTERDAY.
I KNOW THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH IT HAVING BEEN PUT IN THE FLOODPLAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT WHAT
THIS IS ABOUT? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
THE REASON WE ASKED YOU TO PULL THIS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THAT WE NO LONGER NEED TO DO THIS. WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT. THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO MITIGATE EASEMENT AND FLOODPLAIN AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE MET WITH THEM AND HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THE EASEMENTS AND THE FLOODPLAIN AND HAVE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT SPENDING THE EXTRA
>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE
YOU CAN EITHER JUST SAY NO OR TAKE NO ACTION.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T VOTE YES TO APPROVE IT.
>> I WILL DO A MOTION TO DENY IT.
>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CULL THE
[10.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-056 authorizing the City Manager to execute an amendment to the Individual Project Order (IPO) with WSB, LLC. in the amount of $19,500 for the Legends of Hutto Drainage Improvements project (D01-2024) to add geotechnical evaluations. (Matt Rector) ]
SO CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2025- 056 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ORDER IPO WITH WSB LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,500 FOR HUTTO DRAINAGE PROJECT DO1- 2024 TECHNICAL.
>> THIS IS WHERE MY RESIDENCY AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS, SO I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I HAVE DONE THAT ON PREVIOUS SETTINGS, AS MY PLACE OF RESIDENCY.
I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE VOTE.
ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF POSTS ON FACEBOOK ABOUT --
>> YOU ARE GOING TO RECUSE YOURSELF FOR CONFLICT OF MOTION.
>> YOU CAN STILL TALK ON THE MOTION.
>> ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN POSTS ON THE HUTTO PAGE WANTING TO KNOW IF ANYTHING IS HAVING ON THIS PROJECT. BY HAVING A NONCONSENT, THEY CAN HEAR FROM EVERYONE ELSE WHAT'S GOING
ON. >> FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS LONG AS A PROJECT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY HELP JUST ONE PERSON, IF IT HELPS AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THAT STILL CONSIDERED A CONFLICT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK IN THIS SITUATION F THE COUNCILMEMBER BELIEVES HE HAS A CONFLICT, HE HAS TO ACT ON
THAT. >> IN GENERAL, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND IT DIDN'T JUST HELP ME BUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD I HAVE A CONFLICT? I'M ALL FOR A PERSON PLAYING IT SAFE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD OUR FAIR SHARE OF THINGS.
BUT JUST AS A TRAINING THING FOR US ALL, DO WE GENERALLY HAVE TO OR GENERALLY NOT? OR IS THIS BEING ON THE SAFE SIDE OR WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
>> I WOULD SAY BEING ON THE SAFE SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE I ALWAYS
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 10- 4 OR ACTION?
>> OH, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
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>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CULL THE VOTE.
[11.3 Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-061 accepting and acknowledging the dedication of parkland in a residential community known as Emory Crossing. (Sara Cervantes) ]
>> THAT BRINGS US TO CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION R-2025- 061, ACCEPTING AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND IN EMERY CROSSING.
>> THIS IS AN ITEM YOU WERE BRIEFED ON IN THE LAST EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS ACCEPTING THE DEDICATION OF I BELIEVE AROUND 22. 6 ACRES OF PARKLAND IN THE EMERY CROSSING SUBDIVISION. I HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS, JEFF WHITE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT IN THE MOTION YOU INCLUDE ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PARKLAND PRIOR TO PULLING THEIR PERMIT FOR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THAT THEY TAKE THAT TO OUR PARKS BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION.
>> ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE PARKLAND BE BROUGHT TO THE PARKS ORY
BOARD. >> CORRECT, FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION.
>> PRIOR TO THEIR ABILITY TO PULL ANY CONSTRUCTION PERMITS RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTALL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, TRAILS, LIGHTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
>> FULL CONSTRUCTION PERMITS OF
THOSE. >> IMPROVEMENTS, UH-HUH.
>> OKAY. SO LET'S SAY THEY COME UP AND THEY HAVE THIS GRAND IDEA, AND THEY THINK IT'S GREAT AND THEY GO TO THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD AND THEY SAY IT'S TERRIBLE. WE SAY NO.
THEN WHAT WOULD THEY DO? WOULD THEY THEN HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGURE OUT ANOTHER ROUTE, SOME OTHER DESIGN? OR WHAT WOULD THEY DO THEN?
>> THAT'S DEFINITELY A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR
WHITE. >> WELL, I'M LOOKING MORE FOR THE AGREEMENT, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT DOES THE AGREEMENT SAY? I'M NOT TRYING TO BE MEAN TO JEFF. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE SAYS.
SAYS. >> IT IS JUST ING THE DEDICATION OF THAT PARKLAND AND THE HOA AGREEING WITH IT.
JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF OUR GENERAL COMMUNITY AND OUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR PARKS BOARD IS IN THE LOOP FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS MADE.
>> RIGHT. SO THE AGREEMENT SAYS THEY WILL DEDICATE 22. 66 ACRES OF LAND TO THE PARKS SYSTEM. AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO BUILD SOME STUFF ON THERE BECAUSE IT HELPS.
AND, SO, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
LET'S SAY THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD GETS EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE AND THEY SAY NO TO EVERYTHING.
WHAT -- WHAT HAPPENS? BECAUSE I THINK THE AGREEMENT, IT IS EASY TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE
I'LL TAKE THE QUESTION, MAYOR. FOR THE RECORD, JAMES ERP, CITY MANAGER. SO THE PARKS BOARD IS A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE COUNCIL.
SO IF THEY RECOMMEND THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING BE DONE BE DONE, THEN COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO TAKE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE IT AND THEN THEY COULD PULL THEIR PERMIT. THE AGREEMENT DOES STATE THAT THEY WILL BUILD TRAILS AND THEY WILL BUILD A PLAYGROUND.
BUT WHAT IT DOES NOT SAY IS HOW MUCH TRAIL, WHERE, HOW -- WHAT ARE THE SPECS OF THE TRAIL, WHAT'S THE SPECS OF THE PLAYGROUND. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE PARKS BOARD REVIEW NOW KEEPS THEM FROM JUST GOING IN AND PUTTING IN A, YOU KNOW, DROPPING SOME GRAVEL AS THEY WALK AND SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED THE PARKLAND. HERE YOU GO.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD CHECK ON MAKING SURE THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THE TRAIL, THE PARKLAND, THE PLAYGROUND TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE WANT. AND IF THE PARKS BOARD DOESN'T AGREE, THEN THE COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS OVERRIDE.
>> WHAT IF THE PARKS BOARD AGREES? DOES IT STILL NEED TO GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL?
>> IT IS STILL A RECOMMENDING BODY.
IT WOULD STILL NEED TO COME TO
Y'ALL. >> EITHER WAY IT IS COMING BEFORE US. BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF -- WE GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS PROMISED A BUNCH OF STUFF RECENTLY. OF COURSE, THEY GET THE FINAL PRODUCT AND IT IS A BAIT AND SWITCH. THIS ISN'T WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING. I KNOW THESE ARE OLD AGREEMENTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE ORIENTED. IF YOU SAY, I'M GOING TO THE
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PLAYGROUND, I WANT A PICTURE OF IT, EXACT MODEL NUMBER.IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT MODEL.
>> THIS IS EFFECTIVELY THE BEST FIX THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD -- WE COULD DO WITHOUT THEM CONSENTING TO AMENDING THEIR AGREEMENT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE LIKE, I GUESS, ADMINISTRATIVELY, I GUESS, THE PROCESS TO -- TO RUN THIS THROUGH PARKS ADVISORY BOARD INITIALLY AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEDICATION? I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT --
>> YOU DIDN'T. THAT'S FOR THE REQUEST THAT THEY HAD.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR THEY DIDN'T.
WHAT I AM STATING IS THEY'RE GIVING THEM THE PARKLAND. OKAY? THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR AGREEMENT.
IT ALSO SAYS THEY WILL BUILD TRAILS AND THAT THEY WILL PUT IN PLAYGROUNDS AND THEY WILL MAINTAIN ALL OF THE PARKLAND.
OKAY? SO ALL I'M SAYING IS SINCE THEY'RE GIVING US THE LAND WITHOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON IT YET, THAT WHEN THEY DO GO TO DODO THE IMPROVEMENTS, IF THEY HAD DONE THAT IRS IF, THE PARKS BOARD WOULD HAVE REVIEWED THOSE. SO NOW WE WANT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET PERMITTED TO GO BUILD TO GO BEFORE THE PARKS BOARD TO GET CONSENT OR SIGN OFF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. ULTIMATELY, IT HAD COME TO COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THEY COULD GET THEIR PERMITS AND GO
BUILD. >> IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE PREEMPTIVELY DEDICATING THE LAND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE NORMAL TIME LINE? HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> YEAH. THIS SITUATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
>> OKAY. IS THAT WHAT THE HANG- UP IS?
>> WE AGREED TO THE AGREEMENT IN 2020. SO ALL OF THIS WAS DONE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY IN THE INCORRECT ORDER, BUT IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT ORDER GIVEN THE CONTENT OF THAT FIRST AGREEMENT AND HOW THAT AGREEMENT PROGRESSED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT. WE WILL ACCEPT THE PARKLAND TONIGHT POTENTIALLY.
>> AND THEN THEY GO BANKRUPT AND THEY NEVER COME BACK WITH ANY IMPROVEMENT.
THEN DO WE HAVE 22. 6 ACRES OF LAND THAT WE'RE KEEPING ON? THE AGREEMENT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS LONG AS THE PERSON HAS THE MONEY, RIGHT?
>> WELL, THE AGREEMENT, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE AGREEMENT, SO BUT THE WAY THAT THE AGREEMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS' ASSOCIATION TAKES OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE AGREEMENT.
SO IF IT'S POA MAINTENANCE, DEDICATION TO THE CITY, WE ACCEPT IT UNDER THOSE AUSPICES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THESE FOLKS GO BANKRUPT OR NOT. WHAT WOULD MATTER, ON THE MAINTENANCE, WHAT WOULD MATTER IS THE TRAIL DIDN'T GET BUILT. THE PLAYGROUND DIDN'T GET BUILT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> WOULD THE HOA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
>> AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY RECOURSE FOR THE CITY TO ENFORCE -- IT'S REALLY AN ATTORNEY QUESTION.
BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION ASSUMING THAT'S WHO IT WAS ASSIGNED TO.
>> UNLESS YOU GUYS GIVE ME SOME MAJOR REASON, MY OPINION WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS THEN.
>> THE DEVELOPER IS PROBABLY AN LLC.
IF YOU DEDICATE THE LAND, THEY DID THEIR DEAL, THEY SOLD THEIR HOMES AND THEN THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK WE WILL RESOLVE THIS COMPANY BECAUSE WE JUST RAN OUT OF MONEY AND THEN WE STUCK IT TO ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE.
AND THE CITY WILL COME DOWN AND GO, HEY, YOU OWE US A TRAIL, A PLAYGROUND, A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF.
TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR PERMITTING AND BUILDING. BUT FOR ME, YOU DEDICATE SOMETHING, IT IS ALMOST LIKE DEDICATING THE ROAD WITH THE CURBS BUILT BUT NOT THE ASPHALT LAID. TO ME, YOU DO IT ALL AT ONCE OR NOT AT ALL. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME MAJOR REASON WHY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS NOW, THEY NEED TO GO TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, PICK OUT THE SWING SET, THE PLAYGROUNDS AND THE TRAILS AND WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE.
WHEN THEY GET THAT DONE, THEY NEED TO GO GET KIDS AND BUILD IT.
FOR ME, AT THE POINT THEY POSTED FISCAL OR BUILT IT, THEN THEY COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND THIS IS LIKE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE SHOULD BE WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS. THIS ONE I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE THE VERY LAST VOTE AND NOT VOTE AND THEN HAVE IT GO BACK TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD AND THEN COME BACK TO US, BACK AND FORTH. BUT THAT'S JUST MY
THOUGHTS. >> THE ONLY RESPONSE I WOULD GIVE TO THAT IS THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THEM FROM FILING BANKRUPTCY AND DISSOLVING THEIR LLC NOW EVEN BEFORE THEY DEDICATE THE PARKLAND.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY -- DO WE WANT TO SECURE THE PARKLAND NOW OR DO WE NOT?
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THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK BOTH SCENARIOS COULD PLAY OUT WHETHER WE HAVE THE PARKLAND OR WHETHER WEDON'T. >> HAVE THEY BUILT THEIR HOMES YET?
>> I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE MOSTLY BUILT.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE MAPS, IT IS WELL UNDER
CONSTRUCTION. >> THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE PARKLAND BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY WAS SOMETHING WE AGREED UPON IN THOSE PRIOR AGREEMENTS, SO I KNOW IT IS A CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO AND WE ARE THINKING OF THINGS THE WAY THEY FLOW.
BUT I WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE IF THEY DID NOT ACCEPT THIS PARKLAND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGN AND APPROVE THAT AMENDED AGREEMENT WITH THE SAME TERMS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON OUR END.
THAT IS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL THEY HAVE TO EVALUATE.
>> SARA, WHAT I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS THAT THE PARKLAND ISN'T COMPLETE. SO, THEREFORE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCEPT IT. SO ONCE THEY COMPLETE THE TRAILS AND THEY COMPLETE THE PLAYGROUND, THEN IT IS COMPLETE.
AND THEN WE'RE OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT IT AT THAT POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE WILL MAINTAIN IT. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO COMPLETE IT, TOO, YEAH.
>> YEAH. WE JUST GOT TO SAY THAT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IF WE SAY THAT, THEY JUST VOTED TO DO IT. AND THEY DIDN'T BUILD THE STUFF. AS LONG AS THEY POSTED WHATEVER THE BOND IS THAT THEY GOT TO
DO. >> SO THERE IS KIND OF A CHICKEN AND EGG THING HERE BECAUSE HOW DO WE CONTROL WHAT THEY BUILD BEFORE THEY TELL US IT'S DONE AND GIVE IT TO US? AND CAN THEY BUILD SOMETHING SUBSTANDARD AND SAY, WELL, HERE IT IS.
>> I WILL INTERJECT HERE. ANY NEW TRAILSTRAILS BEING DEVELOPED OR DESIGNED WE'RE REQUIRING THEY ADHERE TO OUR NEW TRAIL STANDARD ADOPTED IN OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN. SO AS CLOSE AS THEY DO TO THAT WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS WITH
LIGHTING. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE BEEN BURNED BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT.
IT IS HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYS.
IF IT DOESN'T MENTION THE NEW STANDARD OR IT DOESN'T SAY IN THAT OLD AGREEMENT AND IN 2018 IT PROBABLY DOESN'T SAY THAT, ADOPT A CURRENT STANDARD. I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADOPT THIS OR WE WILL HAVE NO SAY ON ALL THE NEW STUFF WE HAVE ADOPTED IN THE LAST 18
MONTHS. >> WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? IS IT SOMEONE WE LIKE AND GETS ALONG WITH US OR IS IT ONE WE FIGHT WITH ALL THE TIME?
>> WE HAVE A SHORT LIST ON WHO WE FOUGHT WITH ALL THE TIME.
>> I THINK IF IT IS SOMEONE WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH --
>> WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY RESPONSIVE, VERY AMICABLE.
>> IF IT IS SOMEONE WE HAVE A CONSTANT ISSUE WITH, THEN THIS IS A PROBLEM, LIKE WHAT DO WE -- I KNOW THIS. I WOULD NEVER VOTE TO TAKE ON SOMETHING THAT IF THEY DON'T DO IT, IT FALLS BACK TO THE HOMEOWNER.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE IT IS LIKE, YEAH, WE DIDN'T ACCEPT IT SO THE HOMEOWNERS -- BECAUSE I COULD IMAGINE THE HOMEOWNERS GETTING STUCK WITH BUILDING A TRAIL SYSTEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE WE COULD JUST TABLE THIS. YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A TALK WITH THE ATTORNEY AND JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE A COST AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO FOLLOW THAT.
>> ANYBODY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?
>> NO, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT AND SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS OF DIFFERENT PATHS AND OPTIONS, AND WE WILL MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION IN TWO WEEKS.
>> I THINK WE HAVE JUST SO OVERCOMPLICATE THINGS SOMETIMES IT MAKES ME CRAZY. SO THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THEY WILL DEDICATE THE LAND TO US.
>> THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THEY WILL BUILD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
IT DOESN'T SAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
>> THE TYPES OF THE MANY. SO TRAILS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY, THEY HAVE TO DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS?
>> CORRECT. >> THEY HAVE TO DEDICATE THE LAND AND DO THOSE THINGS. STAFF IS SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO WE'RE GETTING THE BEST PRODUCT AVAILABLE.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE A SAY AND AT LEAST BE A PART OF THE PROCESS TO SAY, HEY, LET US REVIEW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IN THERE TO LET US KNOW SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A SAY WHETHER WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW. SO I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT'S THE CONCERN.
LIKE WHAT'S THE CONCERN? THAT THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO GO BANKRUPT TOMORROW?
>> YOU ALREADY WANT TO HAVE THE LAND SO WE'D OWN THE 22
ACRES. >> I THINK THE ISSUE FOR ME
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IS THAT WE HAVE OLD STANDARDS, 2018 AND 2020, LIKE I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH HISTORY OF ALL THE TIMES WE VOTED ON AGREEMENTS.I'M THE SAME WAY. I'M A JERK ON THESE THINGS.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT.
I THINK IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHERE IF THERE IS A WAY TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY, THEN I THINK THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
IF THERE IS NOT, IF LEGAL LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WHETHER YOU GUYS DO IT OR NOT, THEY COULD BASICALLY GET YOU ON THIS ONE, THEN YOU WOULD PROBABLY VOTE FOR
IT. >> SO BY NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT, WHAT ARE WE PROTECTING? WHAT'S BEING PROTECTED?
>> I'M ASKING SARA. I MEAN OR EVEN
YOU. >> IF WE VOTE NOT TO, THEN THE LAND IS STILL IN THE SAME PLACE THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW PRIOR TO THAT ACCEPTANCE.
>> LET'S SAY WE TABLE IT. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONCERN WITH WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
LET'S TABLE IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND, SO, THE AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE TODAY.
WE'RE NOT VOTING ON AN AGREEMENT WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE
LAND. >> YOU ARE VOTING ON THE DEDICATION OF THE LAND, YES.
>> WE VOTED TO ACCEPT IT. WE ALREADY APPROVED THE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS YOU WILL DEDICATE THE LAND.
THAT'S GONE THROUGH COUNCIL. WE HAVE APPROVED THAT.
SO THERE IS NO QUESTION ON WHETHER THEY WILL DEDICATE THE LAND. WE JUST HAVE TO OFFICIALLY ACCEPT IT.
REQUIREMENT. >> THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT SAYS YOU WILL BUILD TRAILS. YOU WILL BUILD SWING SETS OR WHATEVER IT SAYS. IT SAYS YOU WILL DO THAT.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS JUST LET US LOOK IT OVER FIRST AND MAKE SURE WE'RE HAPPY WITH IT.
>> TO ME, THIS IS AKIN TO ACCEPTING A ROAD THAT'S NOT BUILT YET.
>> BECAUSE YOU ARE ACCEPTING -- YOU ARE ACCEPTING PARKLAND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE IMPROVEMENTS ON IT AND SAYING WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT IT TODAY. WE DON'T APPROVE ROADS AND THEN HAVE PEOPLE BUILD THEM LATER.
WE ACCEPT THEM WHEN WE GET COMPLETELY BUILT AND PUBLIC WORKS OR ENGINEERING WILL GO OUT AND ACCEPT THEM AND SAY THAT'S DONE THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TYPE OF SWING SET THAT'S BUILT OR TYPE OF PLAYGROUND.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO CUT THE PARK PEOPLE OUT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PARK. THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
BUT FOR ME, I CAN'T VOTE TO ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT
>> THE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE.
>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE NEVER -- HOLD ON.
LET ME FINISH. BUT IF WE DON'T DEDICATE THE LAND -- OR IF WE DON'T ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE LAND -- I SEE AN ADVANTAGE.
AND I THINK COUNCILMAN THORNTON BROUGHT THIS UP, I SEE THE ADVANTAGE SO WE HAVE MORE OF A SAY OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
SO WE HAVE MORE OF A SAY BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THE LAND, AND THE LAND HAS BEEN DEDICATED.
YOU CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS OUR LAND AND WE HAVE A SAY ON WHAT'S GONG ON HERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE -- THE EXAMPLE OF ACCEPTING A ROAD WITHOUT IT BEING BUILT IS A VALID -- I DON'T ACCEPT THAT AS A -- AS -- AS MATCHING BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, IF WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, SO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DEDICATE LAND FOR US TO HAVE A ROAD AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE ROAD AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL GIVE US THE LAND FOR THE ROAD AND THEY WILL AGREE TO BUILD THE ROAD AND WE HAVE A SAY ON WHAT THE ROAD LOOKS LIKE, AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
CONCERN. >> SO, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS PROCEDURALLY, NORMALLY, IF THERE IS PARKLAND, THAT'S THE UNDERLYING LAND. AND THEN THERE ARE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE ON THAT PARKLAND. AND THEN THERE IS A DEDICATION TO THE PUBLIC FOR ACCESS OR USE OR MAINTENANCE SOMETIMES THAT GENERALLY THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS ARE BUILT UPON THE PARKLAND.
AND THEN IT IS DEDICATED AND TURNED OVER TO THE CITY FOR ACCEPTANCE, FOR EITHER PUBLIC USE AND/OR MAINTENANCE.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE SIDEWAYS ON THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL ACCEPT THE DONATION OF THE PARKLAND. IT SAYS THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD THESE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THERE IS REALLY NO MECHANISMS OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS, WHERE, WHEN, HOW MUCH.
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IT JUST SAYS THAT THE HOA WILL MAINTAIN THEM OR THE POA, WHATEVER. THE HOA WILL MAINTAIN THEM.SO IF A WAY, THE EXAMPLE OF A ROAD THAT'S PARTIALLY BUILT COULD BE APPLIED BECAUSE WE'RE ACCEPTING THE UNDERLYING LAND WHERE NORMALLY THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT ALREADY BEFORE WE ACCEPT THEM. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING THEM. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER THE TIME AS MUCH BUT FOR HOW DO YOU ENFORCE GETTING THE IMPROVEMENTS BUILT IF MAYBE THIS IS THE LAST THING THEY NEED TO BUTTON UP FINANCING OR SOMETHING ELSE.
THEY BUTTON UP, CLEAN UP SHOP AND THEY LEAVE.
THERE IS NO TRAILS OR IMPROVEMENT BUILT.
THE CITY COULD GO BUILD ON THAT PARKLAND BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED THE DEDICATION. WE COULD DO IT.
THE POA COULD BUILD ON THAT PARKLAND, BUT THERE ARE NO IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE ALTERNATIVE COULD BE WAIT LONG ENOUGH FOR LEGAL COUNCILS TO DISCUSS, HAVE THE EMERY CROSSING DEVELOPMENT TEAM DESIGN WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE BUILDING WHERE AND WHEN AND HOW MUCH THAT VALUE IS AND THEN PERFECT THAT BY DOING A BOND OR A FISCAL POST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SAY THAT EVEN IF WE DON'T BUILD IT, THE MONEY IS THERE FOR IT TO BE BUILT.
AND THEN WE ACCEPT THE PARKLAND, AND THEN THEY -- THEN WE CAN ACCEPT THE PARKLAND BEFORE THEY BUILD THE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THAT'S THE FULL WRAP- AROUND AS BEST AS I CAN LAY IT OUT.
I MEAN, THAT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND WAY BETTER BECAUSE THE BIGGEST CONCERN I GUESS I HAD WAS IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE LAND, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NOT GIVE IT TO US AND IT WON'T BE IN OUR CONTROL.
IF THAT'S OUR CONCERN AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT, THEN THAT HELPS ME.
>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR VOTING AGAINST ACCEPTING THE DONATION. I THINK I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR SCHEDULING IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER THAT AND GIVING THE LEGAL COUNCILS TIME TO WORK OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASPECT OF IT WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC
I THINK THIS IS JUST AN UNCONVENTIONAL ROUTE THAT WE'RE TAKING. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO STICK TO OUR PROCEDURAL STANDARDS OF, YOU KNOW, RUNNING IT BY THE ADVISORY BOARD AND THEN MOVING IT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEPING WITH THAT STANDARD. IT PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THINGS WILL GET DONE FOR THEM TO USE AND ULTIMATELY TO MAINTAIN. SO I THINK THAT WE JUST -- INSTEAD OF ING THE WHEEL OR READING IT AS- IS, HOW THE AGREEMENT IS, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PUT IT THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND NOT SWITCH THIS UP.
THIS IS JUST A ONE OFF, SO I'M OKAY WITH TABLING IT.
>> NO ACTION, YOU CAN JUST BRING IT BACK AND IT'S READY, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT? TRYING TO GET US OUT OF HERE BY 10:00. WE WILL MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> IF I COULD INTERJECT, I DON'T THINK WE COVERED 11-2.
>> WE DID. THEY APPROVED IT ON CONSENT.
[12. EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
>> ITEM 12- 1, 55- 1 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY RELATED TO THE AGREEMENT. 12-2, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO 551. 87 RELATING TO TAX
>>> IT'S MY FAULT WE'RE NOT DONE BY 10:00.
[13. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ALL RIGHT. IT IS 10:16.WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> NEXT WE HAVE 13.1. ANYTHING THERE?
[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments. (Part 2 of 2)]
ALL RIGHT. 14.1.>> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST WE RECALL 8.1.
>> NO OBJECTIONS. 8. 1, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTMENTS
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AND/OR REMOVALS. THE TASK FORCE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT BOARD ZONES.>> THANKS, LAURA, FOR SENDING OUT THIS ATTENDANCE REPORT. SO WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT WE HADN'T MET YET. SO I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY.
WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS WHO IS GOING TO BE REACHING OUT, SCHEDULING THESE INTERVIEWS, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN KOHLAR SAID, WE HAD SOME APPLICATIONS.
I THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING IT.
>> WELL, I SENT IT TO THE TWO OF
THEM. >> NOW THAT WE'RE NOT IN SESSION, WHAT DID THE E- MAIL SAY?
>> WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING OVER?
>> NOT REALLY, TO BE HONEST. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS BUSY. EVERYBODY HAS STUFF GOING ON, WHICH IS WHAT CLARK SAID IN THE E- MAIL, BASICALLY. I THINK THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT PERSONALLY IS SUBCOMMITTEES ARE TOO -- WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THEY'RE TOO AT RISK FOR A WALKING QUORUM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE TO BE DISSOLVED AND BRING IT BACK TO ALL CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AT A WORKSHOP AND THE SEVEN OF US CAN DECIDE. AS FAR AS SETTING INTERVIEWS AND THAT SORT OF THING, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE IS A LITTLE DANGEROUS.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE LAST SUBCOMMITTEE THAT I WAS IN, I WASN'T IMPRESSED ON HOW THAT -- HOW THAT WENT. SO I -- ME PERSONALLY, I THINK WE JUST -- THIS SORT OF THING, ESPECIALLY BEING THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE FILLED.
WE ONLY HAVE, I THINK, THREE OR FOUR OPENINGS RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE RESIGN FOR WHATEVER REASON. SO YOU GUYS WANT TO MEET, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN DO TEAMS CALLS.
I THINK ALL THREE OF US SHOULD DO IT ALL THE TIME TOGETHER OR ALL SEVEN OF US SHOULD DO IT ALL THE TIME TOGETHER. I WOULD PREFER ALL SEVEN IN THIS REGARD. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ALL OF US TO INTERVIEW EVERYBODY.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE DIFFICULT. AGAIN, IF IT IS A WORKSHOP OR HOWEVER THAT NEEDS TO LOOK, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS
SUBCOMMITTEE. >> WOULD YOU PROPOSE FOR US TO DO IT MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY?
>> ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE MOSTLY FILLED, WAY BETTER OFF THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. OBVIOUSLY, COMING IN AS A LUXURY THAT WE'RE NOT IN DIRE STRAITS OF TRYING TO FILL THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
>> YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BEFORE IT WAS NOT LIKE THAT.
>> WHY IT GOT FILLED IS BECAUSE PEOPLE APPLIED AND SHOWED INTEREST, NOT BECAUSE OF MY
SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I WOULD DISAGREE TO THAT.
I THINK THE PREVIOUS SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WORKED LAST YEAR PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT AND WE TOOK IT SERIOUS AND WE DID IT PER THE PROTOCOLS. IT WAS SET UP.
IT WAS A NIGHTMARE BEFORE WHEN WE DID IT JUST AS AN ENTIRE COUNCIL. NOTHING EVER GOT DONE.
NO ONE EVER GOT APPOINTED. PEOPLE -- WE HAD APPLICATIONS ON FILE. PEOPLE DIDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T INTERVIEWED.
WE WERE JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE SAYING, DO YOU WANT TO SERVE ON A BOARD? GREAT.
I WILL PUT YOUR NAME OUT IN A COUNCIL MEETING.
I THINK IT WORKS WELL IF YOU PUT IN THE EFFORT.
IN MY OPINION, YOU CAN'T DO IT AS A FULL COUNCIL UNLESS IT'S IN A COUNCIL MEETING. YOU CANNOT MEET MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE WITHOUT IT BEING AN OFFICIAL MEETING.
SO YOU JUST -- SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN
OPTION. >> THAT'S WHY I SAID THE WORKSHOP, BECAUSE WE CAN DISCUSS INTERVIEW AND TALK ABOUT THE WORKSHOP AND NO ACTION IS
TAKEN. >> THEN YOU WILL INTERVIEW PEOPLE IN PUBLIC? I MEAN, I -- I GUESS I
JUST. >> A REVAMP OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM MYSELF BECAUSE 45,000 PEOPLE LIVE IN HUTTO. I LOOK AT THE BOARDS.
WE GOT PEOPLE SERVING ON MULTIPLE BOARDS.
PEOPLE TELL ME THEY CAN'T GET IN.
WE TAKE PEOPLE OFF FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE --
>> -- IF WE GOT THE APPLICATION SENT TO US WITHOUT
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NAMES, GENDER, ANY KIND OF IDENTIFIER AND WE WENT BY EXPERIENCE OR EDUCATION OR SOMETHING AND WE WENT THAT WAY WITH PEOPLE MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS. AND I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE IN A -- I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE IN A DROP BOX.WE CAN LOOK AT IT. WE CAN COME TO A MEETING, AND WE CAN VOTE. I'LL BE HONEST.
I HAVE EXTREME CONCERNS WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME AND SAY, WELL, I GOT CALLED LAST NIGHT. I'M NOT -- CAN I REHASH A LITTLE BIT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION? I'M CONCERNED WHEN A PERSON THAT'S UP TO BE VOTED APPEARS AND I'M LIKE WHO IS TELLING THEM TO COME TO THE MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GET APPROVED OR NOT GET APPROVED. I THINK SOME OF THIS IS ALREADY CHOREOGRAPHED OUT AND TO GO BACK AND TAKE ALL THE IDENTIFIERS OFF AND GO BY EXPERIENCE, I THINK YOU WOULD SEE A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT TELL ME THAT THEY DON'T APPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A PART OF THE GROUP THAT GETS IN. WE ALL GET THE APPLICATIONS NOW.
>> YOU WANT THE APPLICATIONS TO BE NAMELESS? AND YOU DON'T INTERVIEW ANYONE AND JUST -- THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD
NOT. >> I THINK THAT'S CRAZY, CRAZY TALK.
>> THE PREVIOUS SUBCOMMITTEE --
>> I'M JUST PICKING FRIENDS? GOOD
NIGHT. >> WE WERE EFFECTIVE, IMPACTFUL WITH PEOPLE APPLYING THROUGH MAKING THIS SYSTEM ELECTRONIC. THE STAFF DID THAT.
THEN PEOPLE APPLIED. YES, WE DID -- MAYOR PRO TEM WAS LIKE THE CHAIR OR CHAIR OF IT BECAUSE HE TOOK ON THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE, BUT HE ALSO COMMUNICATED WITH COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON AND MYSELF, AND WE NEVER SPENT -- IT WASN'T THAT TIME-CONSUMING. WHENEVER WE DID HAVE TIME- CONSUMING MEETINGS, IT WAS WHENEVER WE HAD MULTIPLE APPLICANTS FOR A BOARD POSITION WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND WE ALWAYS HAD VERY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. SO THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO FOUR PEOPLE IN ONE NIGHT. ALSO DEIB HAD ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OPENINGS AND FOUR VERY QUALIFIED RESIDENTS OF HUTTO WANTED TO SERVE.
WE HAD TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE TIME TO REALLY MAKE THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, DECISION TO PUT FORTH TO THE COUNCIL. AND, SO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST LACK OF COMMUNICATION, UNWILLINGNESS TO STEP UP AND TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS WHO DO WANT TO ACTUALLY SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO -- IF SOME FOLKS WANT TO TOTALLY GET RID OF THIS, THAT'S GREAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE SOLUTION OR THE RESOLUTION TO THIS.
I THINK IT IS JUST MEMBERS ON THE CITY COUNCIL NEED TO COMMUNICATE AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO STEP UP TO LEAD THE WAY TO -- SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR BOARDS STACKED UP AND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DO WANT TO SERVE CAN SERVE.
>> SO TO THIS POINT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, JUST HEARING EVERYTHING, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. SO I'M GUESSING THAT'S GOING TO GET SORTED OUT. BUT UNTIL THEN, WE HAVE APPLICATIONS --
SYSTEM. >> WE HAVE APPLICATIONS, TO COUNCILMAN PORTERFIELD, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO
THAT. >> I DON'T WANT TO BE THE CHAIR, BUT I DO HAVE TIME TO MEET WITH YOU ON A TEAMS CALL TO GO OVER THE APPLICATIONS IN THE
>> SO, THEN, COUNCILMEMBER CLARK, DO YOU HAVE TIME TO SERVICE THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN TWO MEETINGS PREVIOUS.
WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WAITING. DO YOU HAVE THE TIME TO SET UP THE INTERVIEW SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT?
>> I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T, JUST SAY NO AND WE'LL GET SOMEBODY
ELSE. >> I ALREADY SAID I WILL NOT BE HERE ON THE COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH
>> I'LL DO IT. I'LL SET IT UP.
I'LL SEND YOU GUYS A TIME. I THINK IT IS RIDICULOUS THAT WE CAN'T SERVICE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO BRING UP.
>> THE OTHER COMMITTEE IN THE OFF YEARS, SOMETIMES WE DID VIRTUAL.
MOST TIMES WE DID IN PERSON. BUT SOMETIMES WE DID DO VIRTUAL OR SOMETIMES PEOPLE WERE SICK BUT COULD DO VIRTUAL. IT CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
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IT WAS A WEIRD OFF CHANCE. I GUESS I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT, BUT I WAS ABLE TO JUMP ON THE PHONE TO PARTICIPATE, NOT AS MUCH AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO, BUT LIKE AT MY SON'S SOCCER PRACTICE. BUT AT LEAST I STILL GOT A GOOD GRASP OF THE CANDIDATE AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, WILLINGNESS AND DESIRE TO SERVE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO BRING TO THE BOARD. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO, SO STRUCTURED. MOST OF OUR MEETINGS ABSOLUTELY WERE STRUCTURED. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT. PEOPLE IN HUTTO, THEY'RE BUSY, TOO.>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DID THAT FOR A YEAR, TOO.
I RAN IT AND SET UP ALL THE INTERVIEWS AND THE TIMES.
I'M JUST SAYING I WANT ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO DO IT THIS
TIME. >> THE MESSAGE I KIND OF GOT IS YOU PRETTY MUCH SAID --
>> THE MESSAGE I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE E- MAIL IS THAT YOU HAVE PRETTY MUCH SAID YOU GUYS FIGURE IT OUT. I HAVE ALREADY SERVE MY TIME AND I'M DONE. I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S THE MESSAGE I'M GETTING FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
IF I SEE THAT E- MAIL, YOU BETTER STEP OFF THAT COMMITTEE AND LET SOMEONE ELSE HANDLE
THAT IS NOT IT. THE WAY IT WORKS IS PLACE ONE, THREE AND FIVE RUN IT IN THE ODD YEARS. I WAS JUST SAYING, HEY, AFTER THE ELECTION, I WILL NOT BE ON HERE. SO ONE OF THE TWO WHO WILL BE FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR SHOULD BE THE PERSON RUNNING IT, AND I WILL ATTEND WHATEVER MEETING IT IS.
THAT SEEMS DUMB THAT ONE OF THEM HAVE TO TAKE OVER FOR IT IN TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS.
WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD NOW AND DO IT? I HAVE DONE IT ALREADY. I CAN DO IT AGAIN.
BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TWO OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T CAPABLE OF DOING IT, TOO, SO THEY CAN CONTINUE IT FOR YEARS.
OKAY? >> I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SAYING YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
>> EXACTLY HE SAID HE COULDN'T DO IT.
>> HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE TIME, NOT THAT HE WOULDN'T.
>> WELL, THEN, COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD, SORRY ABOUT NOT HAVING TIME, BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT FOR THIS PERIOD, SETTING UP THE INTERVIEWS AND SENDING US THE
>> I JUST ASKED LAURA TO SEND THAT OUT.
I THINK SHE JUST DID. YEAH, THERE WE
GO. >> AND WHO ALL RECEIVED -- SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHO I SENT IT TO.
BRIAN. >> NO, YOU SENT IT TO ME AND --
>> KIND OF AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL OF, HEY, HERE IS HOW WE HAVE DONE IT. IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW SUIT, HERE IS AN EASY WAY TO DO IT. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A TEMPLATE OF HOW TO DO IT IN YOUR INBOXES. AND, AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE -- I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB LAST YEAR OF FILLING ALL THE -- I DON'T THINK WE HAD A SINGLE VACANCY AT THE END OF DECEMBER. WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF RESIGNATIONS SINCE THEN. IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY THIS YEAR WHERE YOU FILL A COUPLE VACANCIES THAT YOU HAVE GOT AND YOU GO THROUGH ALL THE EXPIRATIONS FOR JUNE AND YOU GET THOSE INTERVIEWS DONE OR YOU FIGURE OUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT AND YOU FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS. IS JUST ONCE A YEAR ANYWAY.
IT IS A ONCE A YEAR THING RIGHT AHEAD OF ALL BIG EXPIRATIONS, AND THEN YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, REAPPOINT AS NEEDED.
>> SO TO THE POINT OF WHAT I SAID BEFORE ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES, IT IS HARD FOR ME TO -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS -- MAYBE I DON'T REMEMBER.
WHEN YOU ARE UP HERE IN YOUR FIRST YEAR, YOU GET A LOT OF INFORMATION THROWN AT YOU. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO GO, CAN YOU TEACH ME HOW TO DO THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, MAN? GO TALK TO RYAN AND DAN AND I HAVE PRESENTED AN OPPORTUNITY -- NOT MALICIOUSLY. BUT I PRESENTED AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S DEFINITELY, FOR WHATEVER ASPECT WHATEVER IT IS, IS NOT WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF RANDAL, SINCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE TRAINED ME. YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHAT I DON'T KNOW ANYWAY.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO STEP
UP. >> I'M WILLING TO TEACH YOU IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. I'M JUST ASKING DO YOU WANT TO STOP RUNNING IT?
>> YOU GUYS HANDLED IT VERY WELL, BUT THE THREE OF YOU CAN'T TRAIN THE THREE OF US TO DO IT LIKE YOU GUYS DO IT. WE GOT TO DO THAT IN AN OPEN MEETING. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN
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AN OPEN MEETING, LET'S ALL DO IT IN AN OPEN MEETING. IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON ANYWAY, RIGHT? GOT TO DO IT ANYWAY.>> I HAVE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING -- THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, TO MEET, MEET WITH THOMPSON, PORTERFIELD AND MAYOR GORDON. YOU ALL MEET AND INTERVIEW THE THREE OR FOUR CANDIDATES WE HAVE.
HE WILL SHOW YOU THE PROTOCOLS AND HOW IT'S DONE.
YOU WILL LEARN ON THE SPOT HOW SIMPLE IT IS.
AND SORRY I MIGHT BE SIGNING YOU UP FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO, BUT JUST FOR ONE TIME TO SHOW YOU THE ROPES.
>> COULDN'T DO THAT, THOUGH, WITHOUT --
>> BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MAKING A DECISION, YOU ARE JUST
SHOWING. >> IT IS A RECOMMENDATION.
>> AND COUNCILMEMBER CLARK WILL NOT BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
>> A WALKING QUORUM IS WHEN YOU ARE DELIBERATING ABOUT THINGS. IF I'M JUST TRAINING YOU ON HOW TO DO A PROCEDURE, YOU ARE NOT VOTING ON THAT.
YOU ARE JUST LEARNING HOW TO DO --
>> I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING OUT HERE BECAUSE I DON'T -- I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT HAVING A QUORUM, EVEN THOUGH FOUR OF US ARE MEETING
TOGETHER. >> THE CITY'S RANKING
CONFIRMED. >> I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT INTERPRETATION BECAUSE IF FOUR OF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED CITY BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT IS TRAINING, YOU ARE NOT REALLY ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH A QUORUM ABOUT ITEMS. SO I THINK THERE COULD BE A TRAINING SET UP WHERE WE RECORD YOU OR SOMETHING.
>> YEAH, ABOUT ITEMS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE BODY FOR DELIBERATION. THAT'S THE KEY.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THAT'S
THE KEY. >> THAT'S NOT A WALKING
QUORUM. >> ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY WE KEPT THESE AS THREE MEMBERS INSTEAD OF FOUR, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO ERR
ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. >> HOW ABOUT A WORKSHOP? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE
DOING. >> THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST CONCERNED WITH DOING IT HAVE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS YOU PROBABLY HAVE LIKE I DON'T
UNDERSTAND. >> BACK TO MY ORIGINAL ASK, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP.
WORKSHOP. >> IF I HAVE TO BE PLAYING THAT ROLE, I KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> YOU COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP, BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE.
YOU STILL HAVE TO INTERVIEW THE
FOLKS. >> IT WILL BE LIVE AND RECORDED, AND I CAN TRAIN THE THREE OF YOU GUYS. ONLY FOUR OF US HAS TO SHOW UP.
IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO SHOW UP AND FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE COULD DO THAT. WE LEARN FROM THE THREE OF YOU THAT DID OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING LAST YEAR WHAT WAS YOUR --
>> YOU DON'T WANT TO TEACH ON THAT
ONE. >> YOU COULD TEACH US WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT. LOGS DON'T LIE, PEOPLE.
I LIKE THE WORKSHOP. THAT'S FINE.
BRIAN, YES, I WILL TAKE THE LEAD FOR RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT LATER AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AFTER MAY. THAT'S ALL I'LL
SAY. >> CAN WE DO IT ON THE 6TH? DO WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR THE 6TH ALREADY, A TOPIC?
>> I WOULD GUESS YOU DID. YOU SCHEDULE THEM OUT PRETTY FAR.
>> SO IF IT'S THE 6TH, THAT'S THE MEETING COUNCILMEMBER CLARK SAID HE WOULDN'T BE AT.
AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU COULD MEET AND BE TRAINED, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE UP THE WORKSHOP SLOT.
>> THE GUY THAT'S GOING TO CHAIR DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING? PETER, I'LL JUST MEET WITH YOU AND YOU CAN TELL ME
>> ALL RIGHT. JUST SO THAT'S ON
RECORD. >> AND I CAN MEET FOR INTERVIEWS ANY TIME NEXT WEEK, EXCEPT
[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations from City Council sub-committees (i.e. Legislative, HISD). (Part 2 of 2)]
NOT BETWEEN THE 3RD AND THE 7TH.>> OKAY. SO I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT NOW I NEED TO RECALL 8.2.
>> I THINK WE ARE. 8. 2, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES.
>> SO THE UPDATE WE GOT IN THE MEETING, THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. I'M NOT TRYING TO EXCLUDE
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PEOPLE FROM WORKING ON THIS, BUT THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING WAS TO REFER IT -- WAS TO REFER THE BENEFITS LEGISLATION ISSUE TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE. THE UPDATE WE GOT WAS THE SUBCOMMITTEE HASN'T MET, BUT WORKING ON IT.AND COUNCIL MEMBER KOHLER WAS AWARE OF IT.
AS SOON AS WE BRING IT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE'LL HAVE FOUR PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS NOW.
>> SO I WAS TOLD BY -- GO AHEAD.
>> SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS BRIAN, ME AND AMBER, RIGHT?
>> NO, IT'S DAN. I WAS TOLD BY DOTTIE THAT SHE SENT THE KELLY ANALYSIS TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL AS ME BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THE MOTION FORWARD. SO I ASKED HER, WOULD THAT BE A WALKING QUORUM? AND SHE SAID, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT FORWARD, NO. I'LL JUST CC -- OR I'LL SEND IT TO YOU SEPARATELY, YOU AND JAMES, WHICH SHE DID, AND THEN SHE WOULD SEND IT TO THE LEGAL TEAM, LEGAL LEGISLATIVE TEAM, WHATEVER YOU GUYS CALL YOURSELF, AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I WAS WORKING ON IT.
>> SO I THINK SENDING YOU AN UPDATE WAS NOT A VIOLATION BECAUSE CONTINUING TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE WORKING ON IT IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, THAT TO ME DOES PEOPLE LIKE IT IS A PROBLEM. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT AWAY.
>> ALL THE COMMUNICATION WAS SENT BY DOTTIE.
I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO HER BECAUSE I'M JUST GOING OFF WHAT SHE TOLD ME AS OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE.
>> SO THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU INVOLVED IN THIS IN AN ONGOING WAY, OR DID YOU JUST GET THE E-MAIL? I NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THIS?
>> I FEEL LIKE I'M INVOLVED IN AN ONGOING WAY BECAUSE I MADE THE MOTION, LIKE SHE DID. SHE DID NOT TELL ME ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE
SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I THOUGHT THE WORDING OF THE MOTION WAS TO REFER IT TO THE LEGISLATIVE
SUBCOMMITTEE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE WORDING, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
>> WE NEED TO RESOLVE THIS SOMEHOW.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I WANTED TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE. AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK I CAN AS FAR AS THE SUBCOMMITTEE GOES.
>> ASK DOTTIE WHAT YOUR INVOLVEMENT
BE. >> BUT IF WE ASK TO GO TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, THEN THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD
GO. >> THEN IT'S THE THREE OF US, AND BRIAN STEPS BACK.
>> THIS IS A GOOD ITEM THAT WE MAY BE MAKING ON BECAUSE THERE IS OTHER THINGS WE COULD BE TAXES AND FEES. INSTEAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPLIT HAIRS TOO MUCH, BUT I THINK ALL SEVEN OF YOU COULD BE WORKING ON SOMETHING INDEPENDENTLY.
WHAT BECOMES AN ISSUE IS WHO IS TALKING TO WHO ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY GETS TO A WALKING QUORUM.
SO IF THREE OF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND THE FOURTH ONE IS WORKING ON IT BUT NOT GETTING THAT INPUT FED TO YOU, THEN WOULD THAT -- WOULDN'T THAT STILL PRECLUDE YOU FROM VIOLATING THE WALKING QUORUM BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DISCUSSING THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING. THE PRODUCT WHICH COULD BE SHARED WITH ALL COUNSEL, THAT'S PERFECTLY OKAY.
WHAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IS IF A FOURTH ONE COMES IN.
IF THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, IF THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, MAYBE YOU ARE OKAY.
>> YEAH. AND NO OPINIONS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. IT IS JUST, HEY, HE'S WORKING ON IT. HE SENT IT.
GOT DOTTIE'S MEMO AND SENT IT. SAME THING WITH MAYOR GORDON.
HE HAS DOTTIE'S INFORMATION AND HE SENT IT TO THE LEGISLATURE, A
REPRESENTATIVE. >> THE IDEA IS TO HAVE ONE GROUP REPRESENTING THE CITY, NOT TO HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHY WE HAD THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
>> I MEAN, I HAVE TO GO LOOK BACK AT WHAT I SAID, BUT I
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REMEMBER SAYING LEGISLATIVE -- I'M NOT SURE IF I SAID LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT MY INTENTION WAS TO WORK ON THAT, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.>> WELL, THIS ONE OFF Y'ALL COULD WORK IN THE FORUM.
THEN THAT DOESN'T -- THEN IT IS NOT A WALKING
I GUESS WE COULD USE THE CHAT.
>> IF ALL INFORMATION IS SHARED THERE, THEN IT WOULD BE OKAY.
THERE IS NO REASON ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE
YOU ARE TRYING TO GO TO ANOTHER PUBLIC OFFICIAL TO GET ON THE BOARD. THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
>> ARE YOU GUYS OKAY COMMUNICATING ABOUT THIS ON THE FORUM?
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIX TO OUR
CONUNDRUM. >> SEE, WE'RE BANGING OUT SOME REAL STUFF HERE.
>> NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THE BOARD.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET AXED. IT'S GOING TO GET AXED.
SO IS THIS WHEN -- SO I DID FORGET ONE THING THAT -- AND I DON'T THINK IT IS AN OFFICIAL SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT THE MAYOR AND I MEET MONTHLY WITH THE HEAD OF THE SD BOARD PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT. WE TYPICALLY GIVE A REPORT ON OUR MEETING.
>> SHOULD WE DO THAT UNDER THIS?
>> NO, I -- I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS. BUT YOU GUYS HAD ASKED US TO DO THAT. YOU WANT TO START? YOU WANT ME TO GO?
>> YEAH. SO, I MEAN, I CAN START.
SO WE MET, WAS IT YESTERDAY? I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY.
I MEAN, FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT CAME UP FROM WHAT I RECALL WAS TALKING ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. BOARD PRESIDENT BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN AS IT RELATES TO WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY IN GENERAL ON SELECTING POTENTIAL SITES.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? CONCERNED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW TO KEEP THAT SECRET, HOW TO KEEP THAT CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE SITE IS PURCHASED BECAUSE ONCE WORD GETS OUT, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE COULD GO UP BECAUSE THEY FIND THE SCHOOLS WILL BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IT.
SO THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THERE.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WHY DON'T WE BRING UP THE ELA, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE HAD TO MODIFY IT. I THINK WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MUCH BUILD OUT THEY NEED TO DO IF THEIR SCHOOL IS NOT SURROUNDED BY HOUSES BUT IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY.
YOU KNOW? HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE DO THEY NEED TO PUT IN, SIDEWALKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THEY HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT. THAT SOUND RIGHT?
>> YEAH. ON THAT, IT'S BEEN -- THEY BROUGHT IT UP. I SAID, GUYS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE ILA. I REMEMBER THE ILA, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME TO THE CITY OF HUTTO TO TALK ABOUT A SCHOOL SIGHT. SITE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE ILA TO KNOW ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS.
AS I SAID BEFORE, TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN. YEAH, IT IS ON YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT JUST THEN.
AND ALL THIS STUFF IS SUPPOSED TO BE PUT IN WRITING AND MADE A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEY ARE STILL NOT ON THERE. I SAID, WHY DON'T WE BRING IT UP BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THERE AND YOU GUYS DON'T SHARE ANYTHING, THEN THAT'S FINE.
WE JUST VOTE TO DO IT. JAMES WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW.
WE JUST TAKE THAT OUT OF THERE. BUT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT, WE GOT TO FIND IT. I THINK THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT, BUT THEY DO SEE VALUE IN -- IF YOU BUILD THE NINTH GRADE CENTER BUT YOU DON'T ANNEX PROPERTY UP TO THERE, WHO IS GOING TO WORK TO WIDENING THE ROAD.
BUT YOU BUILD A MAJOR SCHOOL. SO I THINK THEY SEE SOME VALUE IN SOMEHOW WORKING TOGETHER. ONE THING THE MAYOR SAID IS WE NEED TO -- I'M PARAPHRASING. DO WE NEED TO BULK THE WHOLE PROCESS OR FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK ABOUT A SCHOOL ZONE SECRET? I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD SLIP OUT AND WOULD RUIN. BUT WE WOULD ALSO KNOW THAT WE COULD HELP THEM. SO I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A -- I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT GOES BACK TO BEFORE I WAS LIVING HERE, SOME TRUST ISSUE BASED ON SOME SCHOOL SITE YEARS AGO. BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT STAFF, DIFFERENT COUNCIL, DIFFERENT SCHOOL BOARDS AT SOME POINT. THAT WAS ONE.
AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER WAYS THAT PEOPLE -- COLLABORATING
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BETWEEN THE CITY ISD CHAMBER JUST IN GENERAL, GENERAL QUESTIONS ON THAT.I DON'T THINK IT GOT TOO CRAZY. PETER DIDN'T YELL AT ME FOR ANYTHING. RIGHT?
>> I WAS BEHAVING. THAT WAS IT, RIGHT?
[14. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]
14.1, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.
>> MY ONLY COMMENT IS I WILL BE TRAVELING FOR WORK TO OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR THE WEEK OF MARCH 1ST THROUGH THE
>> ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANT TO GIVE A THANKS TO JEFF WHITE, HIS GROUP. THERE WAS A PARADE SUNDAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, I THINK, A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE. RIGHT, CITY MANAGER? IT TURNED OUT TO BE LIKE A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
AND THEY HAD THE ROADS CLOSED DOWN ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND WE PARADED ALL THE WAY AROUND OLD TOWN AND THEY HAD TO COME OUT THERE AND WORK AND MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE GOT RAN OVER. AND, SO, I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR DAY OFF AND QUICKLY -- WE'RE LUCKY IT DIDN'T GET TO BE MORE THAN THAT. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
ALL RIGHT. 14. 2, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. 14. 3, FUTURE ADDITIONAL RESCHEDULED MEETINGS, ADDITIONAL RESCHEDULED MEETINGS.
>> THE ONLY THING I EVER MOVED IS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPRING BREAK OR HOLIDAYS.
>> THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, NEW YEAR'S EVE, HALLOWEEN. THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU KEEP A GOOD EYE ON THE SCHEDULE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT? ALL RIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.