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          THE MEETING OF THE BULLET BOARD LOCATED 
          [Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Belonging Commission on March 10, 2025]
THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE CITY HALL BUILDING AT 500 WEST LIVE OAK. 
          SO THE MEETING OF THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND BELONGING COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER ON MONDAY, MARCH 7TH AT SIX OH THREE. 
          SO CALL SESSION TO ORDER. 
          AND NOW WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL. 
          COMMISSIONER JONES? NOT HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER LEWIS. 
          NOT HERE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER COLEMAN? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER BELL. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER . 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER DINA HERE. 
          SO, UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          UM, COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF? UH, THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS A REMINDER, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN TOMORROW, THAT, UM, MONDAY, MARCH 24TH, THERE IS A DINNER THAT YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO. 
          OH,  MARCH 24TH BECAUSE OF YOU ALL SHOWING UP FOR THE MEETING, YOU GOTTA REWARD FOR I GOTTA PULL UP MY CALENDAR ON THAT ONE. 
          IT'S ON, IT SHOULD BE ON YOUR CALENDAR. 
          AND ARE THEY GOING SOMEPLACE GOOD? YES. 
          IT GOES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WE GOT A NICE JOINT WITH YOUR FELLOW, UM, LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL. 
          WE COULD HANG OUT WITH THE COOL KIDS. 
          MAKE THEM UP WITH ALL THE COOL STUFF. 
          THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S THE 24TH? 24TH AT FIVE 30? YES, MA'AM. 
          AT FIVE 30? YES. 
          I THINK I SAID SIX, BUT IT'S FIVE 30. 
          YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          WAS KEN COMING TO THIS MEETING? COOL. 
          UM, DAN? SORRY. 
          NO, DAN, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY LIAISON THING ANYMORE, CORRECT? NO, BUT USUALLY HE COMES, BUT I KNOW HE WAS BUSY WITH SOME THINGS, BUT I'LL BASE WITH HIM. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          ANY COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES? NO. 
          NO COMMENTS FROM ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS? SO, OKAY. 
          SO NOW FOR THIS MEETING IS ITEM 7.1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DEIB COMMISSION STRATEGIC PLAN WITH STAN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M VERY GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU IN PERSON. 
          IT'S GOOD TO BRING YOUR IN PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I HOPE THAT YOU'VE BEEN LIKE, KIND OF THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN EXECUTE IN TERMS OF TURNING THE STRATEGY NOW INTO AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WITH ACTUAL THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, AND THEN THINGS THAT WE CAN MEASURE AND REPORT OUT, UH, OVER TIME. 
          AND I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I HAD THE MEETING WITH THE SENIOR LEADERS TODAY, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK ON THEIR OWN, UH, DEIB PLANS FOR HOW IT IMPACTS THEIR DEPARTMENT. 
          AND WE CAN SHARE SOME IDEAS THERE AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING 'EM WITH YOU. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DID THIS RECORDED SESSION WITH THEM GOING OVER THE BUSINESS STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UH, AND THEN TODAY WE WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EXPLORING THEIR OWN DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF, OKAY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE STAFF IS DIVERSE AND UNIQUE AND HAS SOMETHING SPECIAL TO BRING TO THE TABLE, RIGHT? AND IF EVERYBODY WAS FULLY EMPOWERED TO BRING THEIR FULL SELVES AND ALL THEY HAD TO OFFER WITH THEIR DIVERSITY AND THEIR DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING AND DOING THINGS TO THE TABLE AND WAS, AND THAT COULD BE LISTENED TO, THAT EVERYBODY COULD BE MORE PRODUCTIVE, MORE EFFECTIVE, MORE EXCITED ABOUT THEIR WORK. 
          AND I THINK THAT, AND WE ALSO WENT THROUGH, UH, EXPLORING BIAS AS A MAJOR ROBOT TO DEIB, UH, SESSION ON HOW THEY CAN BECOME MORE INCLUSIVE LEADERS. 
          AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A, LIKE A 30 MINUTE, UH, ACTION PLANNING PROCESS WHERE THEY STARTED TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT MY FUNCTION? AND WHAT KIND OF THINGS CAN I START PUTTING IN PLACE? AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE FOLLOW ON MEETINGS WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WILL START PEOPLE TO CRYSTALLIZE AND BRING TOGETHER THEIR PLANS. 
          AND THEN WE WENT, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOUR FOUNDATIONAL CONCEPTS OF THE PLAN AND THE FIVE PRIORITY AREAS. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TODAY IS TO GO THROUGH THESE FIVE AREAS AND COME UP WITH WHAT ARE CONCRETE ACTIONS THAT CAN BE DONE IN EACH OF THESE AREAS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE PUT TOGETHER LIKE A TIMETABLE, LIKE A QUARTER OR A MONTH WHERE WE'RE GONNA TARGET THAT TO BE DONE AND WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? AND A LOT OF IT AREAS THAT MIGHT BE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THIS ROOM. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS THAT FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, I'LL TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH EVERYTHING WE DISCUSS AND 
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CREATE A TEMPLATE LIKE THIS THAT WILL LIST, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SAYING GOAL ONE, IT'LL SAY PRIORITY ONE, BOOM, AND A LIST, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS. IT'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT? A LITTLE BIT OF A DESCRIPTION, THEN WAYS THAT WE CAN TELL OR MEASURE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE PROGRESS ON IT. 
          AND, AND THEN WE CAN, AND THEN WE CAN USE THIS AS A REPORT CARD, YOU KNOW, TO REPORT OUT, UH, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN NEEDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE CITIZENS ON, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO REALLY ADVANCE DEIB. 
          AND HMM. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS NOW AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS I WANT YOU TO BE THINKING ABOUT FOR YOURSELF PERSONALLY. 
          YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSION MEMBERS. 
          ARE THERE ANY ITEMS IN THE ACTION PLAN ONCE WE GET IT DEVELOPED THAT REALLY EXCITE ME, THAT I WANT TO BE THE POINT PERSON FOR MM-HMM . 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SOMETHING, ARE THERE ITEMS IN THIS PLAN THAT REALLY GET ME EXCITED? AND ALSO, ARE THERE ITEMS IN THE PLAN? I HAVE SKILLS THAT I CAN OFFER AS A COMMISSION MEMBER TO KIND OF BE THE COMMISSION POINT PERSON TO HELP THIS INITIATIVE ALONG, OR THIS ACTION ITEM ALONG AND THAT WAY. 
          AND, UH, YEAH. 
          SO WE CAN BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS I'LL CREATE A, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY I'LL CREATE A DRAFT DOCUMENT LIKE THIS ONE FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW. 
          YOU KNOW, PROBABLY YOU COULD BE REVIEWED AT THE NEXT MEETING MM-HMM . 
          THAT YOU HAVE IN, IN APRIL. 
          AND THEN ALSO IN THIS DISCUSSION, I WANT US ALL TO BRAINSTORM AND THROW OUT IDEAS. 
          I HAVE A STARTER SET OF IDEAS FOR EACH AREA. 
          AND THEN WE CAN EXPAND AND DISCUSS EACH OF THOSE IDEAS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE TABLE. 
          AND THEN SEE WHAT OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU WANNA THROW OUT. 
          AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NOT GET THROUGH ALL FIVE TODAY, BUT IF WE GET THROUGH ALL FIVE TODAY, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE CAN GO THROUGH FIVE AGAIN TOMORROW AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD LIKE, THOUGHTS THAT POPPED IN OUR HEAD WHILE WE WERE SLEEPING OR IN THE SHOWER, KNOWS HOW IT HAPPENS. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE, YOU KNOW, IS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE WROTE THIS INTO THE YEAH. 
          PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, FILL ALL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN ON HAVING AN ONGOING SUSTAINABLE STRUCTURE FOR THIS WORK TO CONTINUE. 
          THERE HAS TO BE STRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FILLED ALL CURRENT COMMISSION POSITIONS, DONE, UH, YOU KNOW, RENAMING IT AND INCLUDING BELONGING IN THERE. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF NEW KEY WORD. 
          AND BELONGING IS WHERE REALLY NO ONE CAN ARGUE ABOUT EVERYBODY SHOULD BELONG. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND THAT WE, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATING AN EXPANDED WORKING GROUP. 
          YOU KNOW, WELL, THE CITY STAFF WANT TO HAVE A DIVERSITY COUNCIL OR WORKING GROUP. 
          HOW DO WE ENGAGE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY? HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE IN, UH, EDUCATION COMMUNITY? HOW DO WE ADD GENERATIONAL VOICES? UH, HOW DO WE USE SURVEYS THAT MIGHT BE COMING UP IN THE FUTURE TO MEASURE, UH, THE OVERALL CITIZEN FEELINGS TOWARD DEIB? AND, UH, AND SHOULD WE ESTABLISH LIKE AN ONGOING SYSTEM OF ANNUAL REVIEW OR PROGRESS? LIKE WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME THAT, HEY, LET'S SET A TIME WHERE WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE DEIB ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN NOW START PUTTING INTO THAT TEMPLATE IN TERMS OF AN ACTION ITEM. 
          AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL WRITE DOWN, I'LL START WRITING DOWN A FEW THINGS, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, AND THEN, UH, WE, I CAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE THIS STUFF AND START CREATING THE ACTION PLAN. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO ACTUALLY ESTABLISH AN EXECUTION PLAN WITH METRICS MM-HMM . 
          SO I'LL JUST CALL BULLET ONE BECAUSE I KNOW IT, WE HAVE IT ON THE CHART THERE. 
          SO, UH, WHAT SHOULD, WHAT DO WE WANNA SET AS THE TARGET DATE TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENT AND EVERYTHING DONE? MAY, MAY, MAY. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST THE END OF, MAY BE GIVEN THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT OF THE CITY, ET CETERA. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YEAH. 
          WHAT IS GOING ON, AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO MAKE A PLAN 
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THAT ACTUALLY IS WORKABLE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE DAN DID SAY HE THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD WAIT A LITTLE BIT UNTIL ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY AFTER THE ELECTIONS WERE FINISHED. 
          YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK HE SUGGESTED JUNE, RIGHT? JUNE. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE WE SAID OKAY, JUNE OR JULY, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO YOUR TRIP TO AUSTRALIA OR WHEREVER? AFRICA. 
          THAT'S MAY AFRICA. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, ONE PLAN END OF JUNE, AND IT CAN BE, UH, THE DEIB COMMISSION WITH, WITH STAND MM-HMM . 
          SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WE SHOULD HAVE A DOCUMENT IN PLACE THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IN TERMS OF HAVING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SPELLED OUT. 
          NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT CREATING THESE EXPANDED WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND THEY CAN COME IN, IN, UH, THEY CAN COME IN SEVERAL FLAVORS. 
          UH, NOW FIRST IS TO HAVE SOME CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS MM-HMM . 
          AND WHO PUT TOGETHER THAT DOCUMENT. 
          THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. 
          OH, THE ROLE DESCRIPTIONS? YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT, PUT TOGETHER A DESCRIPTION OF FOUR POSSIBLE WORK GROUPS, VETERANS WORK GROUP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          A SENIOR CITIZENS WORK GROUP, A SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT WORK GROUP, WHICH I REAL, I LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          AND YOUTH RESOURCES WORK GROUP. 
          AND WE HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE YOUTH ONE SEPARATELY BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PROPOSAL OUT THERE MM-HMM . 
          TO DO, UH, A YOUTH WORK GROUP. 
          SO WE CAN HOLD THAT ONE ASIDE FOR NOW. 
          UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE THOUGHT THEN OF STARTING TO WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, DO WE FEEL THAT THAT'S A GOOD FOUR TO BEGIN WITH? I THINK THAT, THAT SOME OF THEM CAN BE BROKEN DOWN EVEN MORE THAN, THAN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, A WOMEN'S WORK GROUP, YOU KNOW, FOR SMALL BUSINESS FOR WOMEN. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH SEEMS TO ME THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER A LITTLE MORE SERIOUSLY. 
          THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK ARE, ARE IMPORTANT. 
          AND LIKE FOR YOUTH RESOURCES, THAT HAS TO BE BROKEN DOWN BASED ON GROUPINGS, AGE GROUPINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO WITHIN THOSE, THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, AND YOU, YOU NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN OR MAKE SURE THAT THE GROUPS ARE DIVERSE. 
          WELL, YEAH. 
          BECAUSE GROUPS ARE DIVERSE, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO HAVE, HAVE CERTAIN AGE RANGES, ET CETERA. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONE THING THAT IS GOOD THOUGH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE CONCERN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. 
          YEAH. 
          THE REASON THAT VETERANS, SMALL BUSINESS, YOUTH AND OLDER ARE GOOD, IS THEY INTERSECT ALL OTHER AREAS OF DIVERSITY. 
          AND THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T SAY, OH, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING JUST FOR BLACK PEOPLE, OR YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING JUST FOR LGBT. 
          PEOPLE CAN SAY, OH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT FOR EVERYBODY, UH, IT ACTUALLY REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THAT THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAVE TO LOOK. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          BUT FOR UNDERSTANDING FOR LIKE YOUTH SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE MM-HMM . 
          A 5-YEAR-OLD AND A 18-YEAR-OLD, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, CERTAIN, UM, GROUPS. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THE WAY WE CAN MEET THAT IS THAT WE SAY, OKAY, FOR THE YOUTH GROUP, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE RECRUITING FOR THAT GROUP, THAT THOSE SUBGROUPS ARE REPRESENTED WITHIN THAT GROUP. 
          AND ALSO, I WANNA STAY AWAY FROM THE DANGER OF SPLINTERING TOO MUCH. 
          'CAUSE THEN WE WON'T HAVE, IT'S HARD TO MANAGE. 
          AND, UM, WE WANNA HAVE THEM, WE WANNA GIVE ALL OF THESE GROUPS LEADERSHIP STRUCTURE, REPORTING REPORTABLE METRICS AND MEASURES. 
          WE DON'T WANNA SPLINTER THEM TOO MUCH. 
          WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU WENT WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, K THROUGH SIXTH AND THEN A MIDDLE SCHOOL SEVENTH THROUGH NINTH, AND THEN 10TH THROUGH 12TH, THOSE ARE THREE RELATIVELY STRUCTURED GROUPS THAT YOU COULD HAVE. 
          WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS OF KIDS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ARE NOT GONNA BE THE SAME AS THE CONCERNS 
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FOR A 18-YEAR-OLD. 
          IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY. 
          'CAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ADVISORY COUNCILS. 
          SURE. 
          THEY'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR THEIR INPUT. 
          IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          WE ASK SIX AND SEVEN YEAR OLDS, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR INPUT AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE CITY. 
          THAT COULD END UP . 
          WE COULD ASK THIRD GUARDIANS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, BECAUSE THEY WILL TELL YOU HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE CITY, AND THEY'LL TELL YOU IN THE TERMS OF, WHEN DO I LIKE IT? BECAUSE THERE'S A PARK OR THERE'S A PLACE TO GO FISHING OR THERE'S WHATEVER, YOU KNOW. 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR K THROUGH, YOU KNOW, K THROUGH SEVEN. 
          YEAH. 
          AS YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT YOU HEAR FROM AN 18-YEAR-OLD IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE, OH, WE HATE THESE PEOPLE. 
          OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A GROUP BASED ON A CERTAIN AGE RANGE YEAH. 
          TO MAKE IT REASONABLE, WHICH WE WILL DEFINITELY DO. 
          BUT ONE THING WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE START, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TAKING OUR INITIAL STEPS. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, HOLD YOUR CONCERNS AND THAT WE MM-HMM . 
          AND WE WILL ADDRESS THEM. 
          BUT AT THE STARTING POINT, 'CAUSE WE, WE DON'T WANT THESE GROUPS TO DISSOLVE. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A CREATIVE PLATFORM YES. 
          CREATIVE PLATFORM. 
          PERFECT. 
          WHERE THEIR VOICES CAN BE HEARD. 
          THAT'S PERFECT. 
          BUT I, I STILL THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT YES. 
          BASED ON OH YEAH. 
          AGE RANGES. 
          BECAUSE WHAT'S IMPORTANT YEAH. 
          TO SOMEBODY THAT'S 10 IS NOT GONNA BE THE SAME AS SOMEBODY THAT'S 18. 
          AND THE INITIAL PROPOSAL THAT'S OUT THERE IS TO START WITH ONE THAT IS LIKE HIGH SCHOOL AGE START. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT. 
          UH, NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SMALL BUSINESS AND THE, UH, OLDER ADULT, UH, THESE ARE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE CURRENTLY AREN'T PROPOSALS OUT IN PLACE AND THAT WE CAN KIND OF TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR STARTING THOSE ONES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE YOUTH ONE, BECAUSE THERE ALREADY HAS BEEN A PROPOSAL OUT THERE FLOATING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS THERE'S ALSO SOME, SOME INFORMAL GROUPS THAT ALREADY EXIST, LIKE THE BLACK FAMILIES TOGETHER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SAYING, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA PROVIDE INVITATION OR AN OUTLET FOR THAT GROUP TO PROVIDE THE DEIB UH, COMMISSION THEIR FEEDBACK IF THEY WANNA PROVIDE FEEDBACK MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THAT WILL, WILL ANSWER ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT LISTENING POSTS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, UH, IN FACT MAYBE THAT CAN BE LISTENING POSTS CAN BE, WE GET TO THE LISTENING POST FOR NUMBER TWO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE LISTENING POSTS, WE CAN TEAM WITH THOSE GROUPS AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANNA DO A LISTENING POST WITH THE BLACK FAMILIES OF HUDDLE TOGETHER MM-HMM . 
          AND LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, THAT GROUP. 
          AND MAYBE IT'S LIKE A HISPANIC GROUP. 
          YEAH. 
          WE WANT NOW GET TOGETHER WITH THAT GROUP AND LISTEN TO THEM AND DO LISTEN. 
          HOW MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF GROUPS ARE THERE LIKE THAT CURRENTLY? THERE'S FORMAL AND INFORMAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BLACK FAMILIES OF HUDDLE. 
          THERE'S OLA, WHICH IS HISPANIC ORGANIZATION. 
          LATINO ADVOCACY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THERE, I KNOW THERE'S ENOUGH FOR, UH, GAY LESBIAN GROUP. 
          PRIDE. 
          YES. 
          PRIDE. 
          PRIDE. 
          UM, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. 
          WE MM-HMM . 
          WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE ASIAN COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S A SMALL SUB OF A PAPPA HERE, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY BIG IN AUSTIN. 
          I KNOW WILLIAMSON COUNTY HAS A REPRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE IN HUDDLE SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO WE CAN, WE CAN HOLD THAT TO GET, WHEN WE GET NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS LISTENING, WHICH IS INCLUDING EVERYONE. 
          THIS ONE MORE IS FOCUSED ON STRUCTURE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          YOU KNOW, HAVING A STRUCTURE THAT'S AN ONGOING FORMALIZED STRUCTURE. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER TWO THAT'S LISTENING TO ALL VOICES AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S INCLUDED. 
          SO IF WE TALK ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE AND STARTING WITH THESE THREE, UH, DO WE WANT, UH, SET A TARGET LIKE FOR WHEN WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM DEFINED, HAVE THEM ANNOUNCED HOW, HOW WE ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS AND THEN GET THEM TRAINED AND GOING, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE STEPS. 
          WE WANNA HAVE 'EM DEFINED AND READY TO GO. 
          WHEN YOU SAY, LIKE, BY THE END OF MAY, LIKE AFTER THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A SHORT RUNWAY TO JUNE. 
          WE HAVE ALL THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, UM, FORMALIZED. 
          OR CAN WE, OR DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE SETTING THIS PART OF IT UP SOONER? APRIL. 
          APRIL IS NEXT. 
          I KNOW LIKE 
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END OF APRIL, WE MIGHT NOT WANNA DEFINE TOO MUCH STUFF BEFORE THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF IS PUBLISHED AND AFFIRMED. 
          I AGREE THAT WE CAN DO SOME WORK. 
          I THINK, I THINK THAT YOU CAN DEFINE THE GROUPS BETTER. 
          AN ACTUAL DEFINITION OF THE GROUPS CAN COME IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. 
          BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, ANNOUNCING THE GROUPS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU, YOU'RE SAYING FOR THOSE GROUPS IS ACTUALLY WORKABLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT PEOPLE WILL, PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH. 
          I THINK THAT THE WORKING GROUPS ARE GONNA DEFINE A LOT OF OUR WORK GOING FORWARD. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE REALLY, I MEAN, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL VOICES, THOSE WORK GROUPS ARE GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LOT AS WE TRY TO RECRUIT FORM AND TRAIN THEM. 
          AND HE IS GONNA BE FOUNDATIONAL. 
          DOES THIS LOOK A REASON, LIKE A REASONABLE PLAN? MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO FIND IN MAY DO THE ANNOUNCING AND RECRUITING LIKE IN JUNE AND JULY AFTER EVERYTHING IS PUBLISHED IN JUNE AND END OF MAY WITH THE NEW AFTER THE ELECTION, AND THEN TRAIN AND PICK THEM OFF LIKE IN THE FALL IN SEPTEMBER. 
          ACTUALLY, TO ME, THAT SOUNDS GOOD BECAUSE OCTOBER IS THE START OF THE, IS THAT RIGHT? THE FISCAL YEAR? THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING. 
          THAT'S PERFECT. 
          SO ALL THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING. 
          AND SEPTEMBER IS NORMALLY JULY. 
          SEPTEMBER IS NORMALLY WHEN YOU GET BUDGET. 
          YES, EXACTLY. 
          SO I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IN MY HEAD. 
          SEE, AND THE PLAN, WE CAN SET THIS AS METRICS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, BY THE END OF MAY, WE CAN SAY, OKAY, HERE WE HAVE THE GROUPS DEFINED. 
          HERE'S HERE'S THE YES DEFINITION. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, DID WE ANNOUNCE THEM IN JUNE AND AUGUST AND START RE JULY AND AUGUST AND START, YOU KNOW, START RECRUITING FOR THEM. 
          SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN MEASURE AND SAY, YES, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          STAN, I'M, I'M, AND THIS IS JUST MY CRITICAL MIND THINKING IN YOUR CAREER, BECAUSE WHEN I'M, I'M, I'M LISTENING TO THIS, I'M READING THIS AND I'M KIND OF GOING BACK IN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          SO AS, AS US, AS THIS BODY, AS THIS COMMISSION, AS WE COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS AND BUILD THESE GROUPS, WE'RE GOING TO, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WHAT TYPE OF SYNERGY ARE WE BUILDING INTO THIS? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS GROUP HERE, THIS BODY HERE ARE EXPERTS THAT WERE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS NOW TAKING THESE IDEAS. 
          HOW CAN THIS BE TRANSCENDED WHERE IT IS? UM, WHAT THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? 'CAUSE I, I, I KEEP LOOKING AT KEY CITY STAFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF, AND THE WAY YOU KEEP THINGS GOING. 
          YOU BUILD A FOUNDATION, BUT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT GOING. 
          'CAUSE YOU WANT TO INCLUDE KEY STAFF MEMBERS OF THE CITY. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF ENVISIONING MYSELF LIKE, OKAY, AS A, AS A COMMISSION MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA, BUT SOME OF THE HEAVY LIFTING, OH YEAH. 
          HOW CAN WE TAKE THIS SYNERGY TO KIND OF TRANSITION INTO KEY STAFF MEMBERS? SO IT'S A PARTNERSHIP MM-HMM . 
          AND NOT JUST US. 
          IS THAT, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START DEFINING THE GROUPS MM-HMM . 
          THEN YOU DEFINE A LEAD FROM THE CITY. 
          YES. 
          YOU, YOU DEFINE SOMEBODY THAT IS YOUR CONNECTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ET CETERA, IF THEY'LL GO FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE TRICKY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OLDER, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS AND THE FEEDBACK COULD TRANSCEND SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          LIKE IT COULD HIT PARKS AND RECREATION IN TERMS OF MAKING PARKS ACCESSIBLE AND, AND THINGS FOR OLDER ADULTS TO DO. 
          IT COULD IMPACT LIBRARY PROGRAMS. AND THEN THERE'S SOME, SO IT MIGHT, YOU, THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE LIKE A LIAISON WHERE WE SHARE, AND IT GETS TO SEVERAL CITY STAFF. 
          WHERE ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE LOOK AT SMALL BUSINESS ONE, YOU CAN CLEARLY SAY, OH, THE KEY PERSON ON THE CITY, UH, TO WORK WITH WOULD BE CHENEY, GA UH, CHA CHENEY BECAUSE SHE'S DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THESE WILL BE EASY TO SAY, OH, THERE THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO'S CLEARLY, YEAH. 
          SO HOW MANY WORKING GROUPS ARE YOU PROJECTING THAT THERE SHOULD BE? WE'RE, SO YOU SAY, ESTABLISH X NUMBER, WE'RE GONNA, I THINK THAT, THAT, SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE'VE AGREED THAT WE MIGHT WANNA START WITH THESE THREE AND POSSIBLY YOUTH. 
          WE HAVE TO, WE ARE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT ONE SEPARATELY BECAUSE OF THE NUANCE OF A PROPOSAL 
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BEING OUT THERE. 
          SO NOT FAITH. 
          SO NOT FAITH AND NOT WOMEN. 
          NO. 
          WE JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST THREW OUT A BUNCH OF IDEAS MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE, THE, THE ISSUE, AND WE BE CAREFUL IS, YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, UH, THESE GROUPS WE'RE STARTING WITH ARE ALL INTERSECTIONAL. 
          EVERY ASPECT OF DIVERSITY IS REPRESENTED IN THESE GROUPS WHERE IF YOU PICK WOMEN THAT CAN EXCLUDE MEN, IF YOU MEN THAT CAN EXCLUDE WOMEN. 
          IF YOU SAY PEOPLE OF COLOR, THAT EXCLUDES WHITE PEOPLE. 
          BUT THEN IF YOU PICK VETS THAT IT EX YOU KNOW, EXCLUDES EVERYBODY THAT ISN'T. 
          BUT EVERY SINGLE OTHER AREA, WHAT I CALL IMMU. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IS, OKAY, THERE IS TWO PARTS OF DIVERSITY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE FIRST TYPE OF DIVERSITY ARE YOUR INBORN IN INBORN THINGS THAT YOU DO NOT CONTROL. 
          YOU DO NOT CONTROL YOUR GENDER. 
          YOU DON'T CONTROL YOUR RACE. 
          YOU DON'T CONTROL YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. 
          THESE ARE YOUR IMMUTABLE CHARACTERISTICS. 
          THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ELEMENTS OF DIVERSITY THAT ARE THE WAY YOU WERE RAISED, OR CHOICES THAT YOU MADE. 
          DID I GO TO COLLEGE OR NOT MY EDUCATIONAL LEVEL, DO I HAVE A FAMILY? MY MARITAL STATUS IS PART OF YOUR DIVERSITY. 
          YOU'RE NOT BORN WITH THAT. 
          YOU DETERMINE YOURSELF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOUR PARENTAL STATUS, UH, OR IF YOU JOIN THE MILITARY OR NOT. 
          IF YOU DECIDED TO START YOUR OWN SMALL BUSINESS OR WORK FOR A BIG CORPORATION, THESE ARE PARTS OF ADVERSITY THAT ARE NOT INBORN AND IMMUTABLE. 
          . 
          I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M STILL THINKING THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN JUST THREE. 
          WELL, YOU CAN GROW IT. 
          WE'RE JUST, WELL, I KNOW YOU CAN, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE 30, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT TODAY'S CLIMATE AS FAR AS THE POLITICAL, UM, AGENDA THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, AND, AND, AND WITH, I'M GONNA JUST CALL IT THAT IDIOT VETERANS ARE PROTECTED. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN THING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SMALL BUSINESS IS PROTECTED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S THE CAPITALISM OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, SENIOR, WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY IN THE NATIONAL PLATFORM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SENIOR CITIZENS ARE PROTECTED BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE FACTOR OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          SO THESE THINGS THAT HE'S POINTING OUT RIGHT HERE AS WE AS A, UH, WE WE'RE STILL GOVERNMENTAL . 
          WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN DC THAT HAPPENS IN THE STATE THAT COMES DOWN TO THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          THESE ARE THREE THINGS I CAN THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD. 
           AMERICA, APPLE PIE. 
          SOMEBODY CAN'T COME IN AND SAY, OH, Y'ALL DOING DEIB. 
          NO, WE'RE NOT. 
          WE'RE WE'RE TENDING TO BETTER SMALL BUSINESS IN OUR SENIOR CITIZENS. 
          YEAH. 
          GO PICK ROCK. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I, I, I WOULD, UM, ONE THING IS WE DON'T WANNA BITE OFF MORE THAN WE CAN CHOOSE. 
          I WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          BUT PART OF THE TRAINING OF THESE GROUPS, AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          YES. 
          PART, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE TRAINING, THEY'LL GET BASIC TRAINING AROUND DEIB. 
          SO WE SAY TO THE VETERANS GROUP, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE INCLUDING YOUR WOMEN VETERANS AND YOUR VETERANS OF COLOR TO THE OLDER ADULTS. 
          MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S DIVERSITY AMONG THE SENIOR CITIZEN GROUP THAT'S NOT LIKE ALL, ALL OLD WHITE WOMEN WHO ARE IN THIS GROUP. 
          SMALL BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, AND SMALL BUSINESSES, MAKING SURE THAT HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING A VOICES OF, OF DIVERSE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE TRAINING THAT IN RUNNING THESE GROUPS. 
          YOU NEED TO DO IT THROUGH A DEI LENS TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S INCLUDED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN LIKE YOU WERE, YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE OLDER, THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A NATURAL LINK LINKAGE TO PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE, UH, OTHER ABILITIES. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, SO OH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          PEOPLE, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT AND VETERANS TOO. 
          VETERANS TOO. 
          THE REASON THEY DIDN'T, I THINK IS BECAUSE IT ALREADY INTERSECTED SO MANY OTHER AREAS. 
          IT DOES SOMEBODY, BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE SURE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF BEING DIVERSE, INCLUSIVE, AND BELONGING, IS THAT WOULD'VE TO ME, IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES. 
          YES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY THE INTERSEXUALITY OF THESE THINGS DO MATTER A LOT. 
          BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING HAD WITH AGE GROUPS, WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DIFFERENTLY ABLED, PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          EVEN WITHIN SMALL BUSINESS, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A MASTER'S IN BUSINESS. 
          SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST SCRAPPY. 
          LIKE MY DAD HAD A SMALL BUSINESS, HE JUST WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE A LANDSCAPER THAT GOES OUT AND CUT GRASS IS A SMALL BUSINESS. 
          HE'S GOT HIS OWN BUSINESS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE HE DIDN'T GO TO UNIVERSITY. 
          HE DIDN'T HAVE TO. 
          HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN ENGLISH. 
          YEAH. 
          HE DECIDED TO HAVE THIS OTHER GOES IN THE DIRECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEY'RE ALL EQUALLY, UM, IMPORTANT RIGHT. 
          TO THINK 
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ABOUT. 
          SO I THINK, I THINK THIS IS, UM, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT. 
          SO, AND THEN WE'LL GO, WE'LL TALK ABOUT LISTENING POSTS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SURVEYS IN, IN, UH, PRIORITY AREA TOO. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          DO WE WANT TO, AT SOME POINT CONSIDER HAVING LIKE AN EXPANDED WORKING GROUP THAT INCLUDES A FEW KEY CITY STAFF, A FEW KEY, YOU KNOW, KEY COMMISSION MEMBERS, MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. 
          THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING. 
          IF YOU CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. 
          IT MIGHT BE HAVING LIKE A PERIODIC MEETING OF LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRS OF EACH OF THESE WORKING GROUP, OF THESE WORKING GROUPS. 
          ONE OR TWO, TWO OR THREE KEY PEOPLE FROM CITY STAFF, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO REPS FROM, AND THEN MAYBE THIS IS, UH, COMMISSION OR TWO OR THREE BEDS FROM THIS COMMISSION TO FORM. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THERE'S INTERSECTIONS BETWEEN ALL THE BODIES. 
          BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IS GONNA BE DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL. 
          AND WE HAVE TO HAVE CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS GROUP, WHAT THE CITY STAFF IS DOING. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, CHRISTIE'S A GREAT INTERFACE FACE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I TALK ABOUT WHEN I SAY SYNERGY. 
          YEAH. 
          OF, OF, OF THIS GROUP. 
          AND MAKING SURE WE LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE KEY CITY STAFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S GOING TO, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE THE HEAVY, THE HEAVY LIFT. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I'M SAYING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHO THE CASE SAID. 
          I DON'T WANNA PILE ANYTHING ON ANY ONE PERSON, BUT THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND, THE WAY I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT, IS WE NEED TO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS, ECONOMICS, CULTURE, AND LEGISLATIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO ELECTED OFFICIALS THINK TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THOSES, THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT MANY PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES. 
          OH, WELL, THAT'S TRUE FOR ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOT ALWAYS GONNA GET EVERYTHING. 
          I THINK I'M, I THINK IF YOU CAN AIM FOR TWO OF THE FOUR MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOUR, WHAT, TWO OF THE FOUR, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, OF PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE IN YOUR MEETINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA EVERY CITY STAFF PERSON, WE'RE NOT, WE PROBABLY NEED LIKE ONE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE MAYOR OR ONE MEMBER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TWO OR THREE REPS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SENIOR STAFF. 
          ONE PERSON FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. 
          LIKE ONE FROM LEGISLATIVE, ONE FROM ECONOMICS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CHENEY. 
          IT COULD BE CHENEY'S PERSON. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'S RIGHT BY THAT. 
          SOMEBODY FROM CULTURE. 
          WAIT, ARE YOU THE ONLY CULTURE PERSON? DO YOU HAVE A, LIKE A TEAM? WE WE'RE A TEAM OR TWO. 
          OH, YOU'RE ALREADY HERE. 
          SO WE GOT THAT COVERED. 
          I'M LIKE, SHE'S ALREADY SERVING, SHE'S ALREADY HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMEBODY FROM, UM, COMMUNICATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, UNLESS SHE'S ONLY BY HERSELF TOO. 
          I STILL THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TROUBLE GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO DO THAT. 
          OH, WELL, OF COURSE THEN WE'RE NOT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA ALL MEET AT THE SAME TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE LIKE LIAISON WITH THEIR, WELL, I THINK, WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SRU SOME KIND OF OVERRIDING STRUCTURE, LIKE A QUARTERLY MEETING OF MM-HMM . 
          OF THE KEY OF THE KEY PLAYERS ACROSS ALL THESE BODIES. 
          SO YOU, I WANT YOU TO THINK OF IT LIKE THIS. 
          LIKE I SAID, AS AS THIS COMMISSION IS PUT TOGETHER, WE WERE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE COME OUT OF THIS AND PRESENT TO THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEN THAT'S THEIR ROLE TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. 
          THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE CONSIDERING, CONSIDERING THAT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK. 
          THAT IT DOESN'T. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR MOST CITIES I WORK IN, WHEN YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TELL YOUR CITY MANAGER, THIS IS WHAT I WON'T MM-HMM . 
          IT HAPPENS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, SO, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHAT DOES THIS GROUP LOOK LIKE? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. 
          WELL, SEE, THE THING IS, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA KIND OF BE OPTIMISTIC. 
          POLLYANNA HERE, INSTEAD OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAVING, INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, SELLING COUNCIL, GOING TO THE CITY MANAGER THING, YOU NEED TO DO THESE DIVERSITY EFFORTS. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE EMPLOYEES AND THE CITY MANAGER ARE ALWAYS SO FIRED UP ABOUT DIB DO THAT. 
          THEY WANNA DO IT. 
          WE WANNA DO IT. 
          AND WE'RE ALL A TEAM WORKING TOGETHER. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FORCE SOMEONE TO FORCE SOMEONE TO DO ANYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S TRUE. 
          BOTH TO THAT. 
          WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE, AUSTIN, I'M SORRY, , BECAUSE YOU WORKING. 
          I'M TOO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAME TO US. 
          YEAH. 
          CAME POLICE, POLICE PARK ARE DOING GREAT. 
          AND THEY GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          DO WE DO WHAT WE CAN EVEN CALL 
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IT LIKE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A CALL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN ASSEMBLY GETTING, YOU KNOW, A KIND OF A FORUM OR CONFERENCE, LIKE MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR. 
          FOUR. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          SAY THREE, FOUR. 
          FOUR, FEED THEM AND THEY WILL COME, I THINK. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVING A SUPER MEETING OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND BODIES THAT ARE GONNA BE INVOLVED TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT KEY ISSUES, TALK ABOUT PROGRESS. 
          I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO TRY TO SAY, CAN WE DO THIS THREE TIMES A YEAR? MM-HMM . 
          I THINK THAT'S PRETTY FAIR. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          I THOUGHT WE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAD THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING THAT WE SEEN. 
          WE'VE ALREADY YEAH. 
          AND THEY, AND YEAH. 
          SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS YEAH. 
          SAID THAT YEAH. 
          SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO MEET. 
          OH YEAH. 
          WE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS ALL AROUND YEAH. 
          COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S PRETTY MUCH OF A, THERE'S A SYSTEMIC FAILURE OF COMMUNICATION, I THINK, EVERYWHERE. 
          I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO DEFINE WHAT THIS IS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, UH, GET APPROVED, SIGN OFF FROM THE, YOU KNOW, SIGN OFF FROM LIKE THE CITY HOUSE OF CITY AND THEN HAVE THE FIRST ONE. 
          SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEFINE IT. 
          MAYBE DEFINE IT BY MAYBE JULY. 
          AND THIS IS FOR, FOR THE INCLUSION OF THE CITY STAFF LIAISON, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND EVERYBODY, YEAH. 
          UH, SIGN OFF IN AUGUST AND, AND HAVE THE HAVE THE FIRST ONE IN FOURTH QUARTER SOMETIME. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, DOES IT, DOES THOSE DATES ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE GROUPS DEFINED? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THOSE BE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT, THIS WILL BE BEHIND, I THINK THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THAT. 
          THAT OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD TIMELINE THEN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN JUST TO GIVE IT A COOL NAME, WHEN YOU SAY FORUM, THEY'RE LIKE, UGH, ANOTHER REPORTING MEETING ONCE, DOES IT COME UP WITH A COOL NAME TO PART OF YEAH. 
           OJS AND CALL IT A FAMILY REUNION. 
          . 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UH, PREPARE A YEAR END REVIEW WITH METRICS AND MEASUREMENTS. 
          WHEN IS THE TIME THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEST TO GO FORWARD, UH, WITH A REPORT OF THIS IS WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH IN THE YEAR, AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS I WOULD ASK TOPHER, WHERE ARE WE GETTING, GETTING THE METRICS AND MAJOR THAT , WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY ESTABLISH THIS PLAN BY THE END OF JUNE. 
          THAT INCLUDES METRICS. 
          BUT WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE METRICS? WE'RE CREATING THE METRICS. 
          WE'RE CREATING THE METRICS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT IN MY GRID THAT I'M GONNA CREATE FROM ALL THIS. 
          THE WINDOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A YEAR IN REVIEW. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, WE HAD THE SECOND, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING IN JANUARY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I DID PREPARE A YEAR IN REVIEW, WHICH FROM ONE, FROM, IT WAS A CAL CALENDAR YEAR TO CALENDAR YEAR MM-HMM. 
          YEAR. 
          AND THEY SEEM TO LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY. 
          I WAS THINKING OF METRICS ON, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          SO FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, HOW MANY SENIOR CITIZENS DO WE HAVE? OH, YEAH. 
          IN HU HOW MANY VETERANS DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN HU? THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THESE ARE METRICS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE GROUPS. 
          SO BEFORE YOU CAN CREATE A SET OF METRICS FOR US, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE METRICS FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT GROUPS, WHERE ARE WE GETTING THOSE METRICS? BUT WE'RE LOOKING NOW AT THE OVERALL STRUCTURE. 
          RIGHT? SO, RIGHT. 
          BUT, AND THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THAT MM-HMM. 
          TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THESE METRICS. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UM, BUT ANYWAY, I WAS, WHAT ABOUT FROM JANUARY TO JANUARY? SO THE REASON I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, JACQUELINE MM-HMM. 
          IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH OUR FISCAL YEAR YES. 
          OCTOBER WITH THE BUDGET, 'CAUSE IT'S SO CRAZY DURING THAT TIME AND THINGS ARE, UM, UH, APPROVED. 
          SO LIKE A FEW MONTHS LEADING UP TO, AND A FEW MONTHS AFTER OCTOBER, NORMALLY THINGS CAN GET LOST IN THE SAUCE. 
          SO JANUARY TENDS TO BE MORE OF A, A QUIET TIME WHERE, UM, PRESENTING YOUR INFORMATION MAY HOLD, UH, MORE CLOUD THAT WAY. 
          SO ACTUALLY DAN MENTIONED THAT TO ME TOO. 
          HE SAID, BECAUSE 
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HE SAID, BECAUSE OCTOBER TO YOU HAVEN'T EVEN RECEIVED ANY FUNDING MONEY YET. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, HE SAID IT'S BEST TO START THAT JANUARY. 
          AND, UH, WE, WHEN WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE DEFINING METRICS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT METRICS ON HOW WE MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THIS GROUP. 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS SO, AND WHICH IS LIKE YOU, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO GET STATISTICS, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT THOSE ARE NOT METRICS. 
          THOSE ARE STATISTICS. 
          METRICS IS, OKAY. 
          DID WE, YOU KNOW, WE SET A GOAL OF ESTABLISHING THESE THREE GROUPS, AND WE DID IT. 
          WE SAID, A METRIC IS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FIRST REPORT BY JANUARY 26TH. 
          YES OR NO, WE CHECKED THE BOX. 
          YES. 
          WE DID OUR FIRST REPORT SHARING. 
          THIS IS ALL THE GOOD STUFF WE DID. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE, THESE ARE THE COMMITMENTS AND PLANS WE'RE MAKING AS A COMMISSION, AND THEN WE REPORT OUT ON DID WE DELIVER THESE THINGS? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, SAYING, OKAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA START, WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS PLAN DEFINED BY THE END OF JUNE, AND THEN IN JANUARY WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR FIRST REPORT OUT. 
          HERE'S THE PLAN THAT WE LAID IN PLACE, AND YES, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE MET, AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE MISSED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THESE ARE THE THINGS WE EXCEEDED AND DID BETTER ON. 
          AND THEN ALSO, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT ONCE THOSE, UM, CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS FORM, THEY ARE ALSO GONNA BE EMPOWERED ONCE THEY GO THROUGH TRAINING TO SET METRICS THAT MATTER TO THEM. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THAT COMMUNITY THAT REPRESENT THAT COMMUNITY. 
          SO THEY MAY COME UP WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT METRICS THEY WANNA MEASURE THAN WE WOULD COME UP WITH. 
          I, I'M JUST THINKING, I, I STARTED BEGINNING AND I'M THINKING OF THE GROUPS THEMSELVES AND PLANNING FOR THE GROUPS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BY THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING BASED ON THE GROUPS THAT, LIKE SENIOR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE 10,000 SENIOR CITIZENS? AND, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT, THAT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A GROUP. 
          YEAH, DEFINITELY. 
          AND WE HAVE THOSE STATISTICS. 
          I KNOW WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OR WE CAN GET THEM, WE DON'T HAVE 'EM IN FRONT OF US, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, I ALREADY, I ALREADY, YOU KNOW, I ALREADY HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE THE PERCENTAGE OF HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE IS BLACK, HOW MANY ASIAN, HOW MANY ARE UNDER 65 WITH A DISABILITY, WHAT PERCENT IS, YOU KNOW, UH, VETERANS, WHAT PERCENT IS FOREIGN BORN? AND THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY PUBLISH THESE STATISTICS, THE CENSUS DEPARTMENT, WE CAN GET PERCENTAGE OVER 65. 
          SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS DATA IS OUT THERE AND NOT UP TO DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING REFLECTED IN THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE AMOUNT OF NEW BUSINESS, ET CETERA, THAT'S COMING IN. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STATISTICS THAT ARE OKAY, BUT NOT ACCURATE. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S A GREAT THING ABOUT WORKING WITH, UM, STAFF, AND ESPECIALLY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THEY ARE PULLING THESE SPECIFIC, UM, ITEMS. AND EVEN THEN THOUGH, RIGHT. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME, YES. 
          GONNA BE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LAG, BUT YOU CAN, UM, USE THAT TO HELP MAYBE AND PROJECTING MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED FOR STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF, OUR FIRST GOAL IS, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE, THE, BASICALLY THIS FIRST GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH THIS SUSTAINABLE ONGOING STRUCTURE, SO THAT THIS WORK WILL CONTINUE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S PART OF A STRATEGY IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A GROUP THAT FORUMS AND NEXT YEAR IT'S DONE. 
          BUT HAVING THESE, THIS KIND OF STRUCTURE, WHEN YOU HAVE A, A YEARLY PLAN, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR REALLY  METRICS, IF YOU HAVE THESE WORKING GROUPS, IF YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT TO DO THIS, SYNERGISTIC GETTING TOGETHER, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE NOW HAVE A STRUCTURE TO ENSURE THAT THIS WORK CONTINUES TO GO ON. 
          RIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS? WELL, ONE THING THAT I WAS THINKING THAT WE, WE, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THAT FOR THIS WHOLE FISCAL YEAR WE HAD, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY QUORUM PROBLEMS. SO ATTENDANCE. 
          [00:45:01]
YEAH. 
           WHAT? BIG DEAL APART. 
          BIG DEAL. 
          YEAH. 
          BEFORE I CAME, THERE WERE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN MEETINGS WERE NOT HELD IN THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK WE, IF WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMMITMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE ABOUT ONE. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK IS GOING WELL IS THE PROCLAMATIONS AND WE, AND ATTENDANCE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THAT, UM, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND COMPLIMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, COMMISSION BEING THERE AND THAT, SO THO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, DO WE WANT TO SET ANOTHER METRIC OF EVERY COMMISSION MEMBER ATTENDING AT LEAST THREE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS A YEAR? THAT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          OH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD ONE. 
          THAT'S VERY DOABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, JACQUELINE GOES TO MANY OF THEM, THEM ALL OF, BUT WE, BUT WE NEED MORE THAN JUST ONE PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I WANT TO BE D ALL OF YOU, TO SEE WHAT GOES ON AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING. 
          AND WHEN, ESPECIALLY DURING LATE , THEY, THEY LIKE IT. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR NAMES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY WAVE, THEY TALK, THEY SIT NEXT TO ME AND THEY WHISPER STUFF. 
          THEY WANNA TALK, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GOOD. 
          WHAT DO WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT BUDGET ON THIS STUFF? MM-HMM . 
          UM, LATER, LATER ON. 
          BUT NOT THESE, THESE THINGS. 
          NO. 
          BUT BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE COME UP WITH A, WE SEE WHEN WE COME UP WITH AN ADOPTED PLAN, THAT'S GONNA LEAD TO A BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE BUDGET DONE. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE, WE GOT AN INTEREST IN TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WE WERE GONNA, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE AHEAD ON THAT. 
          WHY DON'T WE ADD THAT THEN AS TO WHATEVER BUDGET. 
          YES. 
          THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SUBMIT AN ANNUAL BUDGET REQUEST. 
          WHEN SHOULD WE BE SUBMITTING THAT? IDEALLY. 
          SO, UM, AROUND JULY'S PROBABLY WHEN YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PACKAGED PROPOSAL THAT I CAN THEN WORK IN FOR. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR GOALS. 
          OH, GOOD. 
          ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD, ANOTHER GOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, GOAL THAT WE CAN SET AND SOMETHING WE CAN MEASURE. 
          WE EITHER DID IT OR NOT. 
          AND, AND, AND FORMULATING THAT BUDGET, WILL WE ALSO WANT TO, UH, INVOLVE INPUT FROM WORKING GROUPS AS WELL AS YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          ONCE, I THINK NEXT YEAR WE WILL WON'T BE A FORM YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY WON'T BE THE FORM. 
          THEY'LL BE FINE. 
          YOU KNOW. 
          BUT THE THING IS, IS WE CAN PUT IN THE BUDGET REQUEST, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAINING BUDGET FOR TRAINING THE WORKING GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS ADOPTING THIS PLAN, WE'LL LEAD US TO MAKING A BUDGET REQUEST FOR FISCAL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE ALSO GETTING INPUT FROM THESE WORKING GROUPS. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND IT JUST BUILD FROM THERE. 
          BUILD FROM THERE. 
          YES. 
          THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE, WELL, WE NEED TO DO AN OUTREACH EVENT. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WANNA HAVE A BANNER. 
          WE NEED A NEW BANNER. 
          . 
          WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN A BUNCH, BUT WE NEED A BANNER FOR WHEN WE ARE OUT THERE IN PUBLIC AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING REPRESENTED. 
          UM, AND THOSE  GONNA COME UP WITH THAT TOO. 
          LIKE, GOOD. 
          THEY WANNA BUY A BUNCH OF WATER BOTTLES TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT AND HANG OUT OR WHATEVER, BUT YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU GAVE US ONE THERE. 
          GO LAYING THAT FOUNDATIONAL PIECE. 
          YEAH. 
          OUR BANNERS. 
          THAT'S LONG AS THE VENDORS IN HU AND BUY WATER BOTTLES. 
          AS LONG AS THE, I'M SURE TO DO THAT FOR FREE. 
          , JUST DON'T WANNA BUILD A BUDGET AROUND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHERE, WHERE IS THE PIECE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD A, SOME SORT OF, UH, COMMUNICATION, UH, SYSTEM, NETWORK? I THINK IT'S FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WEBSITE AND ALL THAT. 
          WELL, NO, I MEAN, UH, TWO, THAT'S GONNA BE PRIORITY AREA FIVE BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL, ET CETERA, IS THAT OH, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. 
          BUT YOU MEAN A FORMAL, WELL, WITHOUT A LIAISON, THINGS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I MM-HMM. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU MEAN, BECAUSE DAN DOESN'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE LIAISON LIKE DAN. 
          WELL STILL CONSIDER DAN OUR LIAISON. 
          HE TOLD ME. 
          HE, HE TOLD US THAT HE, HE ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, SO I'LL JUST REACH OUT TO HIM AND JUST TO VERIFY THAT MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HE WAS DOING SOME THINGS IN TWO YEARS, HE'LL BE GONE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT WE WANT , WE WANT ESTABLISHED, WE MENTIONED THAT STRATEGIC. 
          SO WHAT IF WE ESTABLISH SOMETHING IN A, IN A PIECE OF LIKE HAVING, IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO ATTEND ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, AT LEAST ONE, AT LEAST IS LIKE FIVE, AND PROBABLY LIKE HAVING 'EM ROTATE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, AND IT WOULD BE A, A VITAL ONE FOR THEM TO 
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ATTEND WOULD BE THE ONE WHERE WE FINALIZE OUR YEAR END REVIEW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WOULD PROBABLY BE, BUT, BUT I, AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ALL THE COMMISSIONS WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH WITHOUT HAVING LIAISONS. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE TAKE PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          SOME OTHER SYSTEM, SOME OTHER, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT AT LEAST, AT LEAST, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, 12 MONTHS IN A, IN A YEAR, THERE'S, UH, FOUR QUARTERS IN A, IN A YEAR, AT LEAST EVERY QUARTER, UH, WE INVITE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A MECHANISM THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          DID THEY MAKE A, I KNOW WE PRESENTED ON THAT AT THE STRATEGIC, AT THE, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETING, BUT DID THEY MAKE A DEFINITE DECISION ON THAT? MM-HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR, UM, SUNSETTING THE LIAISON PROGRAM OR INITIATIVE? THAT WAS PROBABLY INTERNAL CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST STOP. 
          I'LL JUST PUT THAT UP AS A QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I WANNA, BECAUSE WE, WE SPENT ALMOST AN HOUR IN THE FIRST ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WE CAN SEND AN HOUR AND FIVE HOURS. 
          WE HAVE AN HOUR FOR EACH ONE, BASICALLY , BUT, AND THEN, AND THE STRUCTURE'S NOT EVEN, OKAY. 
          PARTY AREA TWO IS ASSURING FULL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF TAKING THE NEXT STEP. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE PUT INTO THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO USE, YOU KNOW, GENERAL, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN SURVEYS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN SLICE THE DATA BY, BY DEMOGRAPHIC. 
          AND THEN PUBLISH RESULTS AND ACTION PLANS, UH, HOLD FOCUS GROUPS WITH VARIOUS DIVERSE GROUPS OR LIST AND LISTENING POSTS. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING TO THE INFORMAL, UH, YOU KNOW, GROUPS THAT ARE AROUND, UH, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS, OH, WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THE YOUTH. 
          WE, WE WILL GET, WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO, WE'LL GET BACK TO THE YOUTH, BUT THIS ONE KIND OF OVERLAPS WITH THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 
          UH, AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT OUR, THIS IS WHERE THE COMMUNICATIONS PARTNER HAS TO HELP US WITH THIS WORK. 
          THANKS. 
          AND ALSO, WHEN WE GET TO NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS MORE ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS, I HAVE THE, I BASICALLY, THAT'S GONNA BE THE KEY ONE FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS PERSON IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT. 
          UH, AND THEN SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANNA HAVE IMPACT ON THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT GENERAL CITIZEN SURVEY THAT GOES OUT AND, AND, AND THE NEXT AND GENERAL EMPLOYEE SURVEY, PUBLIC RESULT, PUBLISH RESULTS AND ACTION PLANS. 
          MAYBE SAY IF THERE'S DIVERSITY ASPECTS THAT COME THROUGH THE SURVEY, WE CAN SAY, WE AS A GROUP WILL COMMIT TO MAYBE PUBLISHING A-D-E-I-B ACTION PLAN THREE MONTHS LATER AS A RESULT OF THIS SURVEY HOLDING X NUMBER OF FOCUS GROUPS OR X NUMBER OF LISTENING POSTS A YEAR. 
          UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE ADVISORY COUNCILS IN PRIORITY ONE, BUT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND VISIT THE ONE WHICH WE FORGOT TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLISHING THE D UH, HAVING A PUBLISHED DEIB COMMUNICATIONS PLAN CAN BE A KEY THING TO DO. 
          AND X NUMBER OF DEIB UPDATES ON THE CITY OF HU WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY BE CELEBRATING A CERTAIN CONSTITUENCY OR GIVING AN UPDATE ON WHAT THIS GROUP IS DOING, BUT HAVING SOME KIND OF MEASUREMENT OF, THERE ARE GONNA BE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE A-D-E-I-B FLAVOR ON OUR WEBSITE PER YEAR. 
          SO HOW OF ALL THE SURVEYS THAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY RESPOND, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE RESPOND TO THOSE SURVEYS? WELL, WE CAN FIND THAT ANSWER OUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THE ORGANIZATION, I DID TALK WITH THEM AND THEY DID SAY THAT IT WAS STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT MM-HMM . 
          WHATEVER THEY DID. 
          AND SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          IS THERE ONE SCHEDULED FOR 2026, CORRECT. 
          YEAH, IT'S EVERY OTHER YEAR. 
          AND WHO OWNS THAT? ETC OR THE CI? THE CITY OF HU STAFF WORKING WITH EGCI BELIEVE IS THE NAME OF THE YEAH. 
          BUT WHO, LIKE, WHO IS LIKE THE MAIN INTERFACE TO DETERMINE THE QUESTIONS. 
          AND, UH, SO THOSE QUESTIONS WERE, UM, DEVELOPED IN PART WITH THE, THE COMPANY AND THEN ALSO AT THAT TIME. 
          AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SPOONS ISN'T HERE, BUT THERE WAS A WHOLE SECTION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE DNI COMMISSION AT THE TIME MM-HMM . 
          AND ASKED FOR INPUT AND FEEDBACK FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          BUT WHEN THAT COMES BACK UP AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EXACTLY, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS YES. 
          IS LIKE WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD BE THE PERSON THAT WOULD, 
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YOU KNOW, WHO IS THE CITY STAFF PERSON WHO BASICALLY IS THE INTERFACE FOR THE SURVEY, WHO'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGED MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          TO PROVIDE INPUT. 
          WELL, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS REPRESENTED AND KIND OF FUNNELED THROUGH. 
          BUT AS FAR AS OVERALL OWNERSHIP OF, OF HOW THAT'S PRESENTED, THAT WAS, THAT USED TO BE OUR FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. 
          I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE OUR STRATEGIC OPERATIONS DIRECTOR NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, WHEN DO YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN IN 2006? SIX? I DON'T, I WOULD, I WOULD GAUGE, UM, LATER MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S, THAT'S TOO FAR. 
          BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SET A GOAL THAT WE CAN REVIEW. 
          I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE SURVEY FROM THE LAST TIME. 
          UH, WERE THEY ABLE TO SLICE AND DICE THE DATA BY DEMOGRAPHICS ON SOME, BUT NOT, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE A FEW THAT WERE NOT AS DETAILED AS I THINK THE COMMISSION LIKED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE LAST ONE, BECAUSE I, I WAS ON THE SURVEYS AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT ASKED ABOUT AGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T THINK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WAS, BUT PERHAPS, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REVISITED BY THE COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY CAN UNDER, UNDER, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, GIVE PEOPLE LIKE THREE AGE GROUPS, UH, YOU KNOW, RACE, UH, GENDER SEXUAL ORIENTATION, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU CAN LOOK AT ANSWERS AND IF, SEE IF THERE'S STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. 
          LIKE IF YOU SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, UH, WHITE CITIZENS, 85% SAY THEY FEEL INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY OF OTHER THINGS AND ONLY AND 50. 
          AND THEN FOR, FOR BLACK PEOPLE, THEY SAID ONLY 30% SAY THEY FEEL INCLUDED. 
          BINGO. 
          THAT'S A HUGE STATIST STATISTICAL DIFFERENCE. 
          AND YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT, OKAY, THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE, BUT THE, IS, IF THE ANSWERS ARE REALLY CLOSE WHEN YOU SLICE AND DICE THE DATA, THEN YOU SAY, WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO ASK A QUESTION LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IB, UH, HUS, UH, DEIB EFFORTS MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND YOU MAYBE INCLUDE ONE QUESTION LIKE THAT. 
          SO YOU, THE TWO THINGS ARE, THE TWO WAY PLACE OF INPUT IS REVIEWING THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ALSO DETERMINING HOW THEY'RE GONNA SLICE AND DICE THE DATA SO WE CAN ANALYZE THE DATA TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN HOW DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC PEOPLE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE SURVEY THE LAST TIME? I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP ALL THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND, AND THERE'S, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT SURVEYS. 
          ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXTERNAL ONE, THE RESIDENT? ARE WE ALSO TALKING ABOUT INTERNAL? WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT ONE NEXT. 
          YEAH. 
          OR ACTUALLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, BECAUSE THIS ONE IS, IS FULL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN NUMBER THREE TALKS ABOUT THE, THE CITY STAFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO FOR NUMBER TWO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, SO REVIEWING QUESTIONS. 
          SO WE CAN SET A GOAL THAT WE CAN'T REALLY PUT DATES ON THIS YET BECAUSE IT'S OUT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT WE CAN MAKE IT PART OF OUR EXECUTION PLAN. 
          WE WANT TO REVIEW THE PROVIDE QUESTION, WE PROVIDE INPUT ON THE QUESTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, INPUT ON DATA SLICING, AND THEN LATER, YOU KNOW, KNOW, ANALYZE, YOU KNOW, RESULTS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP ACTION PLANS BASED UPON THOSE. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING, HEY, ARE WE DOING ALL, ARE WE COLLECTIVELY, ARE WE DOING A GOOD JOB? MM-HMM . 
          WHEN YOU SEE THOSE SURVEY RESULTS. 
          AND THEN JUST, UM, AS AN ASIDE, THIS GROUP, WE CAN ALSO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO TAKE IT YES. 
          TO TAKE THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          AND I WAS JUST THINKING OF WHO I WOULD ASK TO TAKE THE SURVEY. 
          YEAH. 
          OR LET THEM KNOW ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, HOW ABOUT DO WE WANT TO DO, UH, VARIOUS LISTENING POSTS SLASH FOCUS GROUPS? IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE ORGANIZED WELL, THEY CAN TURN INTO, OH, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO ONE IN PFLUGERVILLE AND DISASTER WAS A DISASTER. 
          WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU ATTENDED? IT WAS A LISTENING GROUP. 
          IT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS A, UH, YOU KNOW, HEY, EIB COMMISSION WANTS TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          COME AND TALK TO US. 
          PEOPLE LOVE TO DO THEIR GRIEVANCES, AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR AGENDAS. 
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YEAH. 
          I WAS THINKING MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BECAUSE I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME  IS THAT MAYBE WE, THE GROUP MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH AN AGENDA. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          WE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST TALK TO YOU, YOU ABOUT MM-HMM . 
          FIRST OF ALL, HERE'S A GOING TO THEIR MEETINGS. 
          YES. 
          GO TO THEIR MEETINGS. 
          WHAT WE'RE DOING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND THEN WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          WHAT, WHAT THINGS, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? WELL, ALSO I'D LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, I, LIKE, I START, USUALLY START WITH THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU START WITH THAT? MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HUDDLE? WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING? AND, AND THEN WHERE CAN WE IMPROVE? AND WHAT'S, AND THEN WHERE AND THEN WHAT SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S CONSTRUCTIVE SYSTEM?  SUGGESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I WAS ONCE, ONCE IN AN, I, YOU KNOW, ONCE I WAS IN AN I BM MEETING AND YOU KNOW, SOMEONE BROUGHT MY DIRECTOR, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THE DIRECTOR WENT AND, AND OKAY, YOU BROUGHT ME AN ISSUE. 
          WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS? YEAH. 
          WHAT DO HAVE, YEAH. 
          SOLUTIONS, YOU KNOW, I LOVE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HERE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING WELL? WHAT ARE AREAS WE CAN IMPROVE? WHAT ARE SOME NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE? AND DO YOU HAVE SOME POSITIVE SUGGESTIONS ON THINGS THAT WE CAN DO? YOU? SO IT HAS TO BE WELL STRUCTURED, BUT OKAY, WE'RE HAVING A SESSION. 
          EVERYONE COME AND B***H AT US . 
          SO YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE TO ASK CORY, BUT YES, HE DID SAY THAT, THAT PEOPLE, THEY WERE, IT WAS OUTTA CONTROL. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE TWO APPROACHES. 
          ONE, BECAUSE SOME GROUPS WILL MEET, LIKE I KNOW MY OLA GROUP WILL MEET, AND IF WE'RE GIVEN A SURVEY, LIKE RIGHT THEN, AND THEN WHEN WE MEET ON THAT SATURDAY, HEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND FILL THIS OUT WITH THE DIB COMMISSION. 
          AND WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY, BUT WE'D ALSO BE OPEN TO HAVING SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMISSION BESIDES ME, ATTEND THE MEETING. 
          SO GROUPS ARE GONNA RESPOND DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? YES. 
          IF THEY'RE ALREADY MEETING REGULARLY, THEN THAT COULD BE ONE WAY THAT THEY DO IT IN THEIR OWN PRIVACY OF THEIR GROUP. 
          AND THERE COULD ALSO BE THE OPTION, LIKE IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMISSION THAT'S NOT ALREADY REPRESENTED TO COME AND TALK ON AND FACILITATE THAT QUICK, IT WON'T BE YOUR WHOLE MEETING. 
          WE WANT, YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME WITH YOUR MEMBERS SO WE CAN GET THIS DATA FROM THEM. 
          AND THEN SOME ARE GONNA SAY, WELL, YEAH, COME, YOU KNOW, COME AND TALK TO US. 
          LIKE MAYBE THE SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE WOULD WANT THAT. 
          OR MAYBE, UM, A WOMAN'S GROUP MIGHT WANT THAT. 
          AND SOME GROUPS ARE JUST GONNA SAY, LEAVE THAT WITH US AND WE'LL TURN IT BACK INTO YOU. 
          SO THERE COULD BE TWO WAYS OF COLLECTING THAT DATA, UM, FROM THE FO YOU KNOW, IT, IT HASN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUCH A STRUCTURED FOCUS GROUP. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF THAT MAKE SENSE. 
          NO, I, YEAH. 
          I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULD NOT, I WOULD NOT AT THIS, IN THIS CLIMATE, I WOULD NOT DO A STRUCTURED FOCUS GROUP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          INVITE, INVITE EVERYBODY INTO PUBLIC, BUT STILL GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          JUST DO IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          LIKE YOU GO TO GO TO THE GROUP AND YES. 
          AND AHEAD OF TIME SHARE. 
          THIS IS LIKE THE FOUR QUESTIONS WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND GET INFORMATION FROM YOU. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC STR AND EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME QUESTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S ALL THE SAME. 
          I STILL THINK THAT THE NAME SHOULD BE CHANGED, WHICH I KNOW YOU TOO. 
          I KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE CLIMATE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NAME THAT THEY WORRY ABOUT. 
          NOT WHAT WE DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DEIB? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT'S ALL WE, IT IS ALL IN THE DELIVERY. 
          I'M GONNA, I'M JUST, IT'LL CHANGE AGAIN IN TWO YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'LL CHANGE AGAIN TWO YEARS. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS STARTED NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          CONGRESS AND THE HOUSE ARE GONNA FLIP. 
          YEAH. 
          I LIKE YOUR POINT OF WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP. 
          ONE OF YOU KNOW IT, I WOULD ATTEND YOUR MEETING THAT YOU AND KIND OF INTRODUCED A SURVEY. 
          I JUST NEED 10 MINUTE, WE GOT BREAKFAST, TOGGLES AND COFFEE. 
          THAT'S, YOU HAD ME. 
          WE LOVE TO BE PEOPLE. 
          WAIT, I ALREADY KNOW. 
          I SAY, OKAY, I'LL SHOW UP. 
          BUT SEE, THAT'S THAT. 
          I LIKE THAT APPROACH BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GENUINE. 
          JUST, HEY, WE'RE, IF WE'RE, IF WE WERE TO DO A SURVEY YEAH. 
          AND A GOOD THING IS TO HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT AFFINITY GROUPS THAT ARE, UH, IN THE CITY OF HUDDLE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST HAVE ALL OF THEM. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, US AS A COMMISSION. 
          LOOK AT THOSE, LOOK AT THOSE GROUPS AND SEE WHEN DO THEY MEET MM-HMM . 
          AND IF WE WERE TO PUT TOGETHER LIKE A SURVEY OKAY. 
          WHICH MEETING WOULD Y'ALL GO TO? WHICH MEETING WOULD YOU GO TO? AND DO LIKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE, WELL, 10 TO 15 MINUTES. 
          I LIKE TO TALK. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, AND, AND, AND JUST TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. 
          BUT IT'S ALL IN THE DELIVERY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SOME GROUPS NEED A FACILITATOR AND SOME GROUPS PREFER NOT TO HAVE ONE. 
          SO WE WANNA ASK THEM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR GROUP, IT DEPENDS WHO SHOWS UP THAT, THAT SATURDAY MORNING. 
          BUT WE DO VERY WELL WITH FACILITATOR. 
          WE DO REALLY WELL ON OUR OWN TOO. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS. 
          SO WE WANNA GIVE PEOPLE AN OPTION OF THOSE GROUPS, HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT INFORMATION. 
          WE WANT TO GATHER. 
          DO WE WANNA SET A TARGET OF HOW MANY OF THOSE WE MIGHT WANNA DO 
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BY A CERTAIN, BY A CERTAIN DATE? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHO DO, WE CAN PROBABLY RATTLE OFF THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE KIND OF DID THAT EARLIER AND WE COULD SET A GOAL AROUND THAT. 
          THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN WE WERE TALKING IT WOULD SOUND LIKE, WHAT, SIX OR SEVEN? YEAH. 
          WE THOUGHT ABOUT BLACK FAMILIES PET. 
          UM, THE VE WELL, WITH THE VETERANS, THERE'S SEVERAL POCKETS. 
          WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE REACH THEM, WOULDN'T WE MM-HMM . 
          LIKE WHEN DO THEY GATHER, WHEN DO THEY MENU A BUNCH OF 'EM. 
          BUT WE, WE CAN, THAT'S EASY FIGURE OUT. 
          AND WE MIGHT NOT NEED TO DO THE BEST ONE 'CAUSE WE'RE SETTING UP THE OH YEAH. 
          HOW DO SENIOR CITIZENS, OTHER THAN YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT DO IT. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE, YEAH, I, YEAH. 
          AGAIN, THE THREE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING UP THE WORKING GROUPS, ARE THE, ARE THE VETERANS, THE SMALL BUSINESS AND SENIOR CITIZENS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE GROUPS THAT LIKE ARE ALREADY EXISTING TODAY MM-HMM . 
          THAT ARE MEETING INFORMALLY, THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE OFFICIAL CITY STRUCTURE. 
          AND GOING TO THEM SAYING, HEY, WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE GATHERING. 
          WE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE KNOW WE HAVE LIKE THE PRIDE BLACK, HISPANIC. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, IS IT AN ASIAN, THERE'S A SUB CHAPTER OF THE GREATER AUSTIN ASIAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT'S OKAY. 
          MAYBE JUST TWO OTHERS TO KNOW TBD SAY SIX. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S LIKE ONE EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY MANAGEABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS ONE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DEFINING OR, YOU KNOW, WRITING THE FOUR QUESTIONS, WE CAN SAY, LET'S DO THAT BY SEPTEMBER. 
          AND THEN DO SIX FROM LIKE OCTOBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OF ONE, ONE EVERY TWO MONTHS. 
          RIGHT. 
          HAVE, DO SIX OF THEM FROM OCTOBER TO SEPTEMBER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT COULD BE A GOOD ACTION PLAN. 
          THAT'S QUITE A LOT. 
          NOT REALLY. 
          NO. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR TO SEPTEMBER OF 2026. 
          RIGHT. 
          12 MONTHS. 
          SIX. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE 12 MONTHS. 
          YEAH. 
          DO SIX. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S LESS THAN ONE PER PER MEMBER . 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THOUGH, I PROBABLY WANT TWO PEOPLE TO GO. 
          YEAH. 
          TWO PEOPLE. 
          YOU WANT TWO TO GO. 
          'CAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOOD FOR TO SEE TWO PEOPLE AND YOU HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE AS, AS MEMBERS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GIVEN THE SAME INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          EVERYBODY IS THE SAME. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A COMMISSION, WHEN WE GO TO DIFFERENT GROUPS, IF WE GO PAIR UP, WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR SCRIPT IS THE SAME MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? YES. 
          YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S, YEAH. 
          PUBLISHING A-D-E-I-B COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AS, UH, HOW DID THIS DISCUSSION GO WITH YOUR COMMUNICATIONS PERSON? IT WENT EXCELLENT. 
          I THINK. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I, WE HAD BEEN TALKING, CHRISTIE AND I HAD ALREADY TALKED TO HER BEFORE. 
          AND WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE LIKE, WELL, WHAT THINGS ARE YOU PASSIONATE ABOUT? I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE SHE'S VERY, VERY, VERY HELPFUL. 
          AND, UM, ONE THING SHE MENTIONED IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF DEFINITELY WILL WORK. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT DOWN EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CAPTURED SO THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH US ON IT. 
          DO YOU THINK SHE, SHE WANTS TO HAVE LIKE, AN ACTUAL COMMUNICATIONS PLAN OR JUST KINDA, OKAY, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WORKS FOR US AND WE'LL JUST DO THIS AS WE GO, TYPE OF THING? I THINK THAT IT, WELL, ME, THIS IS JUST ME SPEAKING. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE, AND, AND WE, AND MAYBE IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH. 
          WE ALSO CAPTURE WHAT WE'RE DOING, LIKE WITH LISTENING GROUPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE, IN MY MIND, I'VE STARTED LIKE, SAY WITH THE PROCLAMATION, SOMEONE MENTIONED, OR SOMEONE HAD COMPLAINED THAT, OH, IT'S JUST PROCLAMATION. 
          SOMETHING WAS DONE. 
          SO WE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE DO PROCLAMATIONS. 
          THIS IS WHY WE DO THIS. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO. 
          THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE. 
          THIS IS HOW WE DO OUTREACH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DO WE HAVE LIKE A, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE LIKE A-D-E-I-B CORNER, YOU KNOW, UH, 
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ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING WHERE WE PUT SOMETHING UPDATE WHERE PEOPLE CAN EASILY FIND IT. 
          NO, I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE REDEFINING THE WHOLE, AH, WEBSITE. 
          WEBSITE. 
          SO WE WOULD WORK WITH, UM, SHA ON THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LANDING PAGE. 
          OR IS IT THE, I I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S THAT'S THE, THAT'S A, THE FORMAL NAME OF LANDING PAGE. 
          OH, LANDING PAGE. 
          I DON'T, THERE'S A LANDING PAGE. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A LANDING PAGE NOW IT'S SPECIFIC PAGE UPDATE. 
          SO, SO THAT'S, IT'S A STATIC PAGE, RIGHT? ISN'T IT? OH, YEAH. 
          BUT WE WANT SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN CLICK ON LIKE, LATEST NEWS AND IT GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, SO THE WEBSITE REFRESH, UM, IS IN THEORY SUPPOSED TO MAKE THINGS A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE. 
          WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE 100% COMPLIANT WITH ADA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NEW RULES AND UPDATES, AND ALSO THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY LAW, BUT WE'RE DOING THEM TO MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP, SUE, WERE THE, THE BUTTONS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING INCORPORATED. 
          SO A LOT OF INPUT WAS TAKEN FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS, IT'S GOING, GOING TO WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE A FEW, UM, YES. 
          ITERATIONS FOR THAT TO FINALIZE IT. 
          YOU WANT TO JUST PUT, PUT TOGETHER THIS LIKE A TARGET OF HAVING A KIND A LIKE FORMAL, A WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON WITH SHAY AT A CERTAIN TIME. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S, THAT COULD BE DOABLE. 
          AND WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD TARGET FOR THAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT ALL DEPENDS ON, UM, YOU AND WHAT YOU THINK IS REALISTIC. 
          I THINK ALSO AS WE GET DOWN TO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WHAT ARE WE GONNA INCLUDE? YEAH. 
          IN THE PLAN? FOURTH QUARTER? YEAH. 
          THAT'S, I MEAN, THIS FOURTH QUARTER, RIGHT? WHICH WOULD BE, YEAH, FOURTH QUARTER IS JUNE. 
          OH, I, I WAS FROM FOURTH QUARTER. 
          FOURTH QUARTER FISCAL FOURTH QUARTER. 
          FISCAL FOURTH QUARTER. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, AUGUST, JULY 4TH. 
          FOURTH QUARTER IS, FOURTH QUARTER IS OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER 4TH QUARTER OF CALENDAR. 
          THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M FISCAL YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE WE, TO LET ALL THIS STUFF GET SETTLED AND ALL THAT. 
          BUT WE, AND WE HAVE A GOOD CONNECTION THERE, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT THE STATE RIGHT. 
          BEFORE AND, AND, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW I, I HELD BACK ON THE, UH, YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT SOMEBODY HAD SUBMITTED, BUT THE PERSON IS NO LONGER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS OUT BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD WORK HE HAD DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DID HAVE ISSUES WITH IT. 
           . 
          I KNOW. 
          AND, AND, AND WHAT I, I TALKED WITH, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND HE, HE WAS WORKING WITH JAMES ON IT, AND, AND JAMES SAID, TOLD HIM TO COME TO US, WHICH HE DID. 
          AND THEN, AND AT THE TIME WE WERE NOT READY. 
          AND I SAID, WELL, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE ON. 
          BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA MAKE IT ONE OF THE FOUR OR DID THEY SAY IT WAS GONNA BE A SEPARATE THING THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL? AND THAT'S WHAT HAS TO BE DECIDED. 
          AND I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING SPLIT IT OUT. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER THING, AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT ALL UNDER, I DON'T THINK I'M, I'M FOLLOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE YOUTH GROUP. 
          THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL WAS. 
          SOMEONE'S MADE A PROPOSAL, SOMEONE MADE A PRO, ALREADY MADE A PROPOSAL ON STAFF. 
          ON STAFF ABOUT HAVING A YOUTH GROUP, BUT THEN HAVING IT BE SEPARATE FROM OUR COMMISSION. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN COMMISSIONER OWN THAT'S THAT, THAT'S SIMILAR TO CITY OF BOSTON. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THEY HAVE LIKE A SEPARATE, LIKE THEY A SEPARATE ONE. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THEY HAVE, WE YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL YOUTH COUNCIL, THE CITY POLICY. 
          OH. 
          BUT I THINK THE INTENT BEHIND THAT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND UM, THE PERSON WHO IS NO LONGER HERE IS ACTUALLY WORKING FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN NOW. 
          UM, OH, MAYBE I DON'T  GREAT. 
          HE IS A FANTASTIC, SO THE, BUT THE ORIGINAL INTENT REALLY WAS NOT CENTERED AROUND THE CONDITION. 
          IT WAS MORE MM-HMM . 
          UM, HE WAS LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD'VE WANTED IF I WERE IN YEAH. 
          THEIR SHOES. 
          AND THIS WOULD'VE HELPED GET A LEG UP IN OTHER AREAS. 
          AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, WELL COMMISSION. 
          THAT WAS RIGHT WHEN Y'ALL STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION. 
          I'M ACTUALLY PART OF THE, I NOW THAT I KNOW BECAUSE I GET THE, I GET THE MESSAGES EVERY, BUT THEY DID A NICE JOB OF LIKE FINDING IT IN DEPTH IN THE BUSINESS CASE. 
          BUT THE ONE CONCERN THAT I HAD IS THAT THERE REALLY DOES NEED TO BE A DIVERSITY ASPECT 
          [01:15:01]
TO IT. 
          AND IT SAID LIKE, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE ISD SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO WHAT ABOUT KIDS THAT ARE HOMESCHOOLED OR KIDS THAT GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL, THEY'RE EXCLUDED. 
          THAT'S LEAVING THEM OUT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT SO YOU HAVE VOICES OF ALL KIDS. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          NOT JUST ONES THAT ARE IN THE ISD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO DO A YOUTH GROUP, AND I THINK IT SHOULD FALL WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE, AGAIN, IN GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY MEETING. 
          SO WE WOULD LOOK LIKE KIDS IN THE I WITHIN THE ISD THERE ARE, UH, STUDENT ATHLETE LEADERS. 
          LIKE IT'S A WHOLE LITTLE GROUP OF JUST STUDENT ATHLETES WHO ARE ALSO LEADERS WHO GO AND TALK TO THE YOUNGER KIDS. 
          IT'S FOR RECRUITMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. 
          THERE'S SCOUTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO DEFINITELY APPOINT SOMEBODY AND THEY BRING WITH THEM A WEALTH OF LEADERSHIP KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION GIRL SCOUTS AND BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA. 
          THERE'S ALREADY A LIBRARY ADVISORY GROUP WHO ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS. 
          THE LIBRARY BOARD. 
          SO ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, UM, THEY HAVE STUDENT, THEIR STUDENT COUNCILS WHO HAVE LEADERS ALREADY BUILT IN. 
          SO I THINK WOULD BE, IN ORDER TO MEET ALL THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS NEEDS WITH, I MEAN THE FFA HAS THEIR LEADERSHIP, THE FUTURE. 
          I MEAN THERE'S SO MANY ALREADY MM-HMM . 
          THAT WE COULD TAP INTO. 
          AND THE HOMESCHOOL GROUPS ALSO HAVE THEIR AFFINITY GROUPS. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          AH, WOW. 
          THAT WE WOULD TAP INTO TO BE PART OF THE BROADER YOUTH GROUP. 
          SO DO WE WANNA LIKE HAVE A YOUTH COUNCIL WHERE WE GET LIKE A REP FROM EACH OF THOSE AREAS AND THAT KIND OF BUILDS A DIVERSE COUNCIL. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, OR THAT COULD BE THE WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, FOR UNDER DIB. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU COULD JUST FALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. 
          'CAUSE THOSE PEOPLE THEN CAN BE DIB AMBASSADORS IN THEIR PARTICULAR GROUPS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT MY, MY ALLERGIST BEEN BOTHERING ME. 
          OH NO. 
          THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE THAT'S REALLY GETTING NOT COOPERATING WITH YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT FEELING WELL. 
          MY ALLERGIES. 
          I'M GONNA TRY TO CATCH UP WITH Y'ALL TOMORROW. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ONE OF THE BIGGER ROOM IT IS. 
          SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ALL LESS ALLERGIES THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          I LIKE THE POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT CARINA ABOUT EXISTING TOO. 
          IT IS JUST, WE'RE REALLY JUST PULLING EVERYONE TOGETHER MM-HMM . 
          UM, AS OPPOSED TO RECREATING. 
          YEAH. 
          OR TRYING TO INVITE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY INVOLVED INTO ONE MORE THING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I'VE JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PULLING THIS, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES YOU KIND OF THING . 
          SO WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE KIND OF FLIP AND, AND WHAT IF WE GO TO THEM AND JUST LISTEN TO IT? JUST HAVE A, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SINCE THEY ALREADY GOT THESE GROUPS ALREADY FORMED, MAYBE US SHOWING UP AS A REPRESENTATIVE BEING INVITED TO LISTEN. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, AND WE SHOULD, WHENEVER WE ARE INVITED, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE INVITED TO EVERY GROUP THOUGH. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          DO WE? BUT THE THING IS, DO WE WANNA FORM SOME KIND OF YOUTH COUNCIL OR WE JUST WANNA SAY FOR NOW, LET'S JUST GO TO THE VARIOUS YOUTH GROUPS AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SHARE WITH US. 
          I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A MORE FORMALIZED YEAH, I AGREE. 
          THAT COMES FROM THOSE GROUPS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LIKE THE LIAISONS. 
          UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PERSPECTIVES AND THEY'RE GONNA REPRESENT DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS TOO, TO SUE'S POINT. 
          AND THEY'RE GONNA REPRESENT DIFFERENT PRIORITIES LIKE OUTDOOR ACCESS, SPACE, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, CONTINUING EDUCATION THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UM, REPRESENTATION. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE WITHIN THE SCHOOL THERE'S GONNA BE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT UP. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A GROUP, YOUTH GROUP UNDER THE DIV UMBRELLA BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ALL FOCUSED ON ACCESS TO RESOURCES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU AND YOUNG PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO, I GET IT. 
          BUT WE COULD INVITE, WE'LL PULL THEM, WE'LL, WE'LL INVITE THEM TO HAVE A, TO FORM THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN HIPPO POD OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT, A HERD BLOAT. 
          ALL THOSE DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CALL HIPPO GROUPS, SCRIPTS OF HIPPOS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'LL ADD THAT TO THE, ONE OF THE FOUR. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          VERY INTERESTING. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER ACTIONS THAT WE WANNA PUT IN THE PLAN UNDER GETTING THE PUBLIC FULLY ENGAGED IN THIS WORK THAT'S MISSING RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FALL UNDER THIS, BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW WE SHOW UP IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF CALL UNDER THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LIKE HAVING PRESENCE IN EXISTING COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE MOVED ON FROM? OR DO WE STILL WANNA TRY TO DO THAT BESIDES THAT CITY COUNCIL? BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST STARTED THERE WAS WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY EVENTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE WHAT, WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE GROUP WAS LIKE, DO WE HAVE A PRESENCE AT LIKE CRAWFISH FESTIVAL? DO WE HAVE A PRESENCE AT, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PART OF OUTREACH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FOR THIS OR IF THAT'S FUTURE YEARS. 
          WE'RE JUST KIND OF GETTING TOGETHER NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE. 
          I THINK IT WAS, WAS THE CONCERN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TO YOUR 
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POINT, JUST SHOWING UP AND REPRESENTING, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THIS COMMISSION IN DIFFERENT, I MEAN, I ATTENDED THE HOLIDAY PARTY. 
          I, IT WAS GREAT TOO. 
          QU WHAT IS THE GIRLS, THE EMPLOYEE OR EMPLOYEE I ATTENDED IT, HAD A GREAT TIME. 
          AND YOU HAVE A NAME TAG THAT SAYS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          YOU KNOW YOUR NAME AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, DDIV COMMISSION ON IT SO PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE THERE. 
          THEY HAVE ALL THAT. 
          BUT STICKER, I DON'T HAD A GOOD TIME. 
          IT'S A GOOD BARBECUE. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          BUT I DO LIKE THAT IDEA OF DIFFERENT, UH, EVENTS THAT GO ON IN CITY OF HUNT. 
          I, I'LL PUT THAT AS A FUTURE ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THEN WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT THE GROUPS THAT WE WANT. 
          LIKE FOR INSTANCE, CORINA AND I WENT TO THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE GROUP, SO WE WANNA CONTINUE. 
          AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO LIKE, WE WANNA PUT THE THINGS THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO US AND THEN CONTINUE TO, TO GO. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE, UM, TARA HAS, SHE LIKES BEING, UM, NIGHT OUT. 
          OH, THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, NATIONAL NIGHT, NIGHT OUT. 
          AND THAT, AND NORMALLY AUTO HAS LIKE A AUTO SHOW OR SOME MOTORCYCLE. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS SOME COOL STUFF GOING ON. 
          WELL, I ALWAYS, I RIDE MOTOR, MOTORCYCLE, SO I TRY TO GO TO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUSH THROUGH ONE MORE OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE GO HOME. 
          HOW'S THAT? YES. 
          KEEP US MOVING THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT ONE. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE THE TOUGH ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE MUCH LESS CONTROL OVER IT. 
          UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY AREA THREE IS WE MIGHT NEED TO  MIGHT NEED TO EDIT THIS AS PER THE DIRECTION OF OUR YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CITY MANAGER, CITY MANAGER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, HE DOESN'T LIKE THE WORD ALL BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WHERE DIVERSITY IS TOTALLY UNRELATED. 
          LIKE HOW DO YOU CUT A CHECK? YEAH. 
          SO JUST SAY ENSURE DIB ENGAGEMENT IN INTERNAL CITY PRACTICES. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'LL START UPDATING SLIDES. 
          . 
          UH, SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF, AND WE, I WENT TO TRAINING WITH THIS SENIOR STAFF OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMPELLING BUSINESS CASE THAT ALL CITY STAFF SHOULD BE DOING THEIR WORK THROUGH A DIB LENS AND SAY, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT MY AREA? YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT PARK AND REGS? HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE POLICE PUBLIC WORKS, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS AND THINGS WE CAME UP WITH IS, YOU KNOW, HAVE INITIAL TRAINING HELD WITH THAT. 
          WE ACCOMPLISHED ONE THING ALREADY. 
          UH, EACH SENIOR STAFF MEMBER ESTABLISHED A-D-E-I-V STRATEGY AND PLAN FOR THEIR AREA. 
          AND YOU HOW FEES DO, DO WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE FOLLOW UP AND THAT JAMES WILL BE DRIVING THIS? UH, SO THE GROUP THAT MET TODAY IS, UM, OUR, WE CALL IT THE ELD GROUP 'CAUSE THAT'S THE EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT GROUP. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A, UM, CONSISTENT MEETING TIME EVERY OTHER WEEK. 
          AND THEN WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER SLOT OF TIME. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK UP AND WE, UM, WILL REVISIT IT, UM, PROBABLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          COOL. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS WHAT GETS REALLY HARD BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE ESTABLISHING, YOU KNOW, A-D-E-I-B THING, METRICS AND MEASUREMENTS THAT REALLY THIS GROUP DOES NOT CONTROL WHEN IT COMES UNDER THE CITY MANAGER PURVIEW, BUT WE CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN I, LET'S SEE IF I HAVE THAT. 
          WHEN I DID HAVE THE MEETING WITH THE CITY, UH, KEY KEY LEADERS, I, WE HAD A ACTION PLANNING DOCUMENT AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE THINGS TO PUT IN AN ACTION PLAN AND TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT SOME POINT HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITY MANAGER PRESENT TO THE DIB COMMISSION, THE INTERNAL DIB PLAN FOR THE CITY STAFF. 
          HMM MM-HMM . 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND I'M LOOKING AT RECRUITING, ONBOARDING, BRINGING, AND THE VERY BEST EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT, TALENT PRODUCTIVITY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THAT. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND MY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AS 
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FAR AS IT COMES TO DBI. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SEVERAL THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THIS MM-HMM . 
          SO WITH THE, UH, TALENT, PRODUCTIVE PRODUCTIVITY, RETENTION AND DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT AND EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THOSE BY IDENTIFYING COMPETENCIES MM-HMM . 
          AND WHEN YOU IDENTIFY THE COMPETENCIES OF THE POSITION OF WHAT THE POSITION SUCCESSFUL FUNCTIONS ARE DOING, AND YOU DIVIDE, YOU DEVELOP YOUR INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, AND YOU DEVELOP THOSE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS IN A WAY. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE VETTING I NEED, THAT'S, I NEED, I NEED, I'LL BILL HUDDLE FOR THIS , THIS IS WHAT I DO. 
          SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS TO MEET THE COMPETENCIES, YOU ALSO DEVELOP THE KEY INDICATORS AS FAR AS THE RESPONSE THAT YOU WANT TO GET IN ORDER TO SEE IF THAT PERSON IS COMING IN WITH THAT MINDSET OF BEING DEIB. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT, IT IS A SYSTEMATIC WAY YOU COULD DO IT, BUT IT'S MORE, UH, IT'S MORE IN DEPTH. 
          THE HR MANAGER OR HR RECRUITER, WHOEVER THE TALENT ACQUISITION IS, IF THEY UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE CONCEPT OF, UH, DEIP, THEY WILL LOOK AT THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, LOOK AT THE ESSENTIAL FUNCTION OF THE POSITIONS, AND CREATE COMPETENCY QUESTIONS WITH KEY INDICATORS IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE NO, IT'S EVEN, IT'S EQUAL. 
          AND, AND ACTUALLY THAT, THAT'S SORT OF BEEN CONTRACTED. 
          I'LL BE DOING THAT WORK. 
          OH. 
          WITH, WITH IRENE. 
          DO WE NEED TO TALK STATE YOU YEAH, WE CAN, I CAN GO SIDE WORK. 
          BECAUSE THE THING IS I HAVE OKAY. 
          FOR THE PROPOSAL I PUT TOGETHER THAT I THINK, UH, JACQUELINE CIRCULATED TO EVERYBODY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR, IS I HAVE A FOUR HOUR WORKSHOP THAT IS FOCUSED ON, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE RECRUITING STRATEGY. 
          TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EVERYTHING SOUP, THE NUTS IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, HOW YOU WRITE THE JOB DESCRIPTION, YOU KNOW, DOING A LANGUAGE ANALYSIS OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION. 
          IT DOES IT, YOU KNOW, WILL IT TURN OFF MEN OR WOMEN OR PEOPLE OF COLOR IN TERMS OF, UH, COMING UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AND MAKING SURE THERE'S NO, UH, IN EMBEDDED BIAS IN THE, IN THE QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A, THAT'S A FOUR HOUR VERSION THAT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH DEVELOPING AN INCLUSIVE RECRUITING STRATEGY FOR IRENE AND THE PEOPLE THAT OWN RECRUITING. 
          THEN THERE'S A TWO HOUR VERSION FOR ANYBODY INVOLVED IN DOING IN RECRUITING. 
          SO ANYBODY INVOLVED IN THE INTERVIEWING PROCESS OR THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A MANAGER WRITING A JOB DESCRIPTION LANGUAGE TO USE AND NOT USE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU ANALYZE RESUMES AND DOING THINGS LIKE TAKING OFF NAMES AND JUST LOOKING AT THE SKILLS ON THE RESUME. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DOING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS EVERY CANDIDATE HAVING A, UH, DIVERSE INTERVIEW PANEL. 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TWO HOURS OF, FOR THE, FOR THE MANAGERS INVOLVED IN, IN HOW TO DO THIS WITH AN INCLUSIVE MINDSET. 
          AND THE KEY THING, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT. 
          THE KEY THING THAT I ALWAYS PREACH ON MM-HMM . 
          IS THE RETENTION. 
          AH, YES. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE RECRUITING YOUR TALENT WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, AND I GET MY HIRING AUTHORITIES TO THINK ABOUT THIS, WHEN YOU'RE WRITING AN INTERVIEW QUESTION, YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THE EMPLOYEE, YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THE TENTION EMPLOYEE HOW THEY CAN FIT THE ORGANIZATION MM-HMM . 
          THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS SHOULD RELATE TO THOSE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AS FAR AS THOSE COMPETENCIES. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT FULL CIRCLE. 
          THEN THE DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF IT IS YOU KIND OF FIND OUT WHAT GAPS THEY HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN SO YOU CAN DO THE TRAINING AND GET THEM THE CORRECT TRAINING. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU KEEP YOUR, UH, YOUR TALENT RETENTION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAKING, YOU KNOW, AND MAKING SURE YOU'RE EQUITABLE IN TERMS OF EVERYBODY HAVING ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES TO GROW THEIR CAREERS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, AND, AND TRAINING MANAGERS ON, ON THAT. 
          UM, AND ALSO THIS IS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, RETENTION STUDIES SHOW MM-HMM . 
          THAT THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT DETERMINES THAT, NUMBER ONE RELATIONSHIPS IS RELATIONSHIPS WITH COWORKERS. 
          YES. 
          IF YOUR CO, IF YOUR COWORKERS ARE NOT TREATING YOU WITH RESPECT, HR CAN BE SAYING GREAT THINGS. 
          THE SENIOR EXECUTIVES BE SAYING GREAT THINGS, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE IF YOUR COWORKERS ARE DISRESPECTING YOU. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, ROLLING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, STARTING WITH DEB IB TRAINING TO EVERYONE IN A SUPERVISORY ROLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ROLLING OUT TO ALL EMPLOYEES, MAYBE HAVING A CITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOCUSED ON UNDERSERVED YOUTH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND FOCUSING ON THAT, UH, EMPLOYEE MENTORSHIP PROGRAM, HELPING ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, DISENFRANCHISED GROUPS OF, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING, MENTORING AND TOOLS TO HELP GROW THEIR CAREERS. 
          YOU KNOW, MULTIS FOCUSED ADS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PROMOTING A HU AND THEN 
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IF YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ANALYZING YOUR CITY EMPLOYEE DATA, UH, AND DATA VIS-A-VIS RESIDENT DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, DOES THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE HERE WORK THE CITY REFLECT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY? THAT SO HU DOES IT HAVE THAT STUFF NOW? ? YEAH. 
          WE HAVE SOME, I MEAN, YEAH, HR, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, AND SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE COULD BE ENHANCED OR LOOKED AT FURTHER MM-HMM . 
          SO, AND WITHIN THAT TRAINING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDE, UM, DO YOU DO A LOT, DO YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRAINING ON, UM, LIKE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS? I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT WORD, . 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE CAN'T GO, BUT I'M LIKE, BECAUSE IT COMES UP UNCONSCIOUS BIAS. 
          THE UNCONSCIOUS BIAS. 
          THAT'S A GOOD TRAIN. 
          IT'S A, IT IS A . 
          I LOVE TO DO UNCONSCIOUS ING, BUT THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT DOES NOT LIKE THE TERM IT  IT IS HARD UP THAT, THAT TRAINING THERE. 
          I'VE GONE THROUGH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT, NOT JUST PROFESSIONALLY, BUT ALSO THROUGH, LIKE, I USED TO BE THE VP OF OUR BEING IN GROUP IN AUSTIN. 
          IT'S A WAKE UP GUY, AND IT'S LIKE, THEY DO, WE DELIVERED, IT WAS ALREADY WRITTEN UP FOR US, BUT WE WOULD DELIVER IMPLICIT OR UNCONSCIOUS BIAS TRAINING, DISCUSSION. 
          THE SENIOR STAFF. 
          I'VE HAD DISCUSSION LIKE, WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE TO CALL UNCONSCIOUS BIAS? IT'S JUST BIAS. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S BIAS. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, THEY MAY NOT GET, SOME PEOPLE LACK AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF SELF, SELF-AWARENESS . 
          SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          LIKE, I CAN'T GET A JOB BECAUSE I'M TOO OLD. 
          BUT THEY SAY THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE THEY'LL TAKE ANYBODY IN THE JOB ANY AGE, ANY RACE OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT UNCONSCIOUSLY THEY'RE SAYING, RIGHT. 
          IT IS THAT IT IS THIS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THIS IS THE PICTURE I HAVE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S CONSIDERED UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, EVEN THOUGH THE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF, OR MAYBE THEY DO REALIZE IT, BUT IT'S KIND OF, THEY SAY ANYTHING, BUT IT'S KIND OF LEARNED BEHAVIOR THAT HAPPENS, HAPPENED AS YOU EXPERIENCED. 
          OKAY. 
          HOLLY, OVER MY, OVER MY GROWING UP YEARS, I'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, OLDER PEOPLE ARE SLOW. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS. 
          NOW I'VE MET A COUPLE OF OLD PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF NOT TOTALLY WITH IT. 
          SO NOW THAT'S KIND OF IN MY BRAIN, RIGHT? SO NOW WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THE JOB, I'M JUST GONNA APPLY THAT TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, I'M NOT GONNA INTERVIEW HER. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CALL IT UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, OR JUST BIAS HAVING UN BIAS. 
          RIGHT? I KNOW, BUT REALLY THERE'S TWO TYPES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DELIVERABLE BIAS, I THINK. 
          OKAY, HERE, HERE'S A GOOD WAY OF WORDING IT. 
          UNINTENTIONAL BIAS AND INTENTIONAL BIAS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S MAYBE HOW WE CAN COUCH IT. 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, INSTEAD SAYING UN UNCONSCIOUS THING, UN IS UNINTENTIONAL. 
          UN IT'S, AND WE CALL THE CONCEPT NAIVE OFFENDER THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A GOOD MIND, THAT YOU'RE GONNA ACCIDENTALLY SAY THE WRONG THING, USE THE WRONG WORD, THE GROUP, AND YOU'RE NOT MEANING HARM. 
          YOU JUST ACCIDENTALLY SAY THE WRONG THING. 
          AND THAT ACTUALLY, I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEN IT TAKES OFF, OFF THE, LIKE, YOU INTENTIONALLY DID THIS. 
          WELL, YOU CAN'T, YEAH. 
          YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY THAT NONE OF US HAVE BEEN THAT WAY BECAUSE WE PROBABLY ALL YOU LIKE THAT. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU LIVE IN TEXAS AND YOU NOT A DALLAS COWBOY, MAN, I DON'T EVEN HOOK HORN. 
          I'M AG THAT'S GONNA STICK WITH A DIFFERENT TEAM. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT SEE, I'VE LET SEE, BUT SEE, I'M, I, I HAVEN'T SHARED THESE, I'M AWARE OF MY BIAS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO GEORGIA TECH, I THINK IT'S THE BEST SCHOOL IN THE WHOLE WORLD. 
          YOU KNOW, IF I'M INTERVIEWING SOMEONE AND THERE'S A PERSON FROM GEORGIA TECH IN THE SLATE OF SIX PEOPLE, I KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE NUMBER ONE. 
          SO I HAVE TO, SO I HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, I'M AWARE I HAVE THIS BIAS, SO I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF IN THIS DISCUSSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M NOT GONNA PUSH MY, I'M NOT GONNA PUSH THIS ON PEOPLE. 
          I'M GONNA MAKE THE, LET THE GROUP MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE I KNOW I'M TOO BIASED TO CONTRIBUTE IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S HOW YOU MITIGATE IT WHEN YOU'RE AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THIS BIAS , YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GUY'S COMING IN AND HE'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT, WHO'S THE, WHO'S YOUR BIG RIVAL? WELL, I WENT TO CHARLESTON STATE. 
          OH. 
          SO IF YOU WENT TO WEST TEXAS A AND M, I CAN'T STAND . 
          RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IF I SEE WEST TEXAS A AND M OR ANYTHING, I'M LIKE, YEAH. 
          SO YOU, OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAD TO SAY, OKAY, I'M NOT GONNA EVEN WEIGH IN ON THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SO BIASED. 
          IT, IT IS THE SAME WAY WITH PHILADELPHIA EAGLE FANS. 
          I, IT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF. 
          LIKE, PEOPLE THAT JUST BELIEVE MEN ARE BETTER LEADERS THAN WOMEN. 
          THEY DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIAS. 
          THEY KNOW THAT THEY, HER. 
          SO IT COMES A RESUME WITH THE EXACT SAME SKILL. 
          THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO CHOOSE THE ONE THAT HAS A, A MALE SOUNDING NAME OR A FEMINIST NAME. 
          BUT THEY DON'T CLAIM THAT AS A BIAS. 
          IT'S LIKE, LET'S JUST CLAIM THAT AS A TRUTH. 
          RIGHT? THEY'RE LIKE, BETTER LEADERS. 
          SEE, OH, BUT SEE, NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL NOW THAT'S CALLED PREJUDICE AND STEREOTYPE. 
          THAT'S A STEP BEYOND BIAS. 
          WELL, 
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HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT BIASES WHERE SOMEBODY IS A MANAGER SOMEPLACE THEY DON'T HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, BUT THEY CAN'T GET A JOB HERE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS OF POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. 
          THAT'S CONSIDERED BIAS TOO. 
          THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU, AND I'VE ACTUALLY, WE'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THAT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED US TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          SO IT'S AT, AT ONE POINT, THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES A, UH, MARKET STUDY, UH, EVERY TWO YEARS ON DIFFERENT POSITION TITLES OF DIFFERENT FAMILIES. 
          SO WE HAD TO CHANGE OUR I FAMILY BECAUSE, AND SEE, AND THEN WHEN I DO MY, I, I DO MY JOB DESCRIPTION WRITEUPS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I I SAY VERY RARELY SHOULD YOU USE THE WORD REQUIRED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE WHAT? BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY SAY, HERE ARE THE, YOU SEE THAT, YOU SEE, BUT HERE, HERE'S WHAT I DO. 
          SOMEONE SAYS THESE ARE THE REQUIRED THINGS AND THEY LIST 10 THINGS. 
          THEN I SAY TO THE PERSON, LET'S SAY THIS PERSON IS PERFECT AND ONE THROUGH NINE, BUT THEY HAVE NUMBER 10 MISSING. 
          WOULD YOU WANNA INTERVIEW THEM? OH YEAH, WE PROBABLY WOULD. 
          THEN. 
          IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. 
          SO I SAY ALL JOB DESCRIPTION SHOULD START WITH DESIRED SKILLS AND COMPETENCIES INCLUDE DESIRED INCLUDE MEANS, HEY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE PREFER TO HAVE A LOT OF THESE. 
          AND THE MORE YOU HAVE THE BETTER. 
          BUT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED. 
          ONLY USE THE WORD REQUIRED WHEN IT'S AN ABSOLUTE HARD, LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA BE THE CORPORATE LAWYER, YOU NEED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BAR. 
          NOT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE THE ACCOUNTANT, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE THE LEAD ACCOUNTANT, YOU NEED TO BE A CPA. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, ONLY YOU KNOW, AND THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEAR COLLEGE DEGREE REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT IF THIS PERSON HAS TWO YEARS, BUT THIS GREAT WORK EXPERIENCE THAT EVEN MAKES UP FOR, THEN YOU SHOULD, YOU CAN SAY FOUR YEAR DEGREE PREFERRED. 
          YES. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT IT'S JUST SO MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DON'T UP FOR THAT. 
          YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN A LOT OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS. 
          YOU SEE MUST HAVES, HEY, EXCEPT MY, MY CLIENTS. 
          YOU DON'T SEE IT ANYMORE. 
          YEAH. 
          MY CLIENTS DON'T USE THAT LANGUAGE IN THEIR, IN THEIR JOB POSTS. 
          'CAUSE I TRAINED SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN'T RETIRE SO MUCH WORK TO DO. 
          SO I HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THEM. 
          I, I SAY, I GO, I GO THROUGH THIS AND SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE THESE 10 REQUIREMENTS. 
          WHAT IF THEY HAVE NUMBER ONE THROUGH NINE, DON'T HAVE 10? AND THEY SAY, YEAH, I BROUGHT AN INTERVIEW. 
          AND THEY SAY, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT THEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE IT ALSO STUDIES SHOW THAT EVEN WHEN IT SAYS REQUIRED SKILLS, MEN, WE ARE LOOSE GOOSEY GENERALLY. 
          HEY, I HAVE SEVEN OF THE 10 REQUIRED. 
          THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. 
          I'M GONNA APPLY WOMEN AND RACIAL MINORITIES. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          JUDGE THEMSELVES MORE HARSHLY. 
          I ONLY HAVE NINE OF THE 10. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO APPLY. 
          SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU USE THE WORDS REQUIRED, YOU'RE A LOT MORE MALE APPLICANTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          AND SO IT MEN ARE VERY CONFIDENT. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          SO THESE ARE THE THINGS I GO THROUGH AND I GO THROUGH WHEN I GO THROUGH THE RECRUITING TRAINING. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THEY, OH YEAH. 
          THERE'S ONE THING I WANNA SAY. 
          I LIKE HOW JAMES HAS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PROMOTED AND ARE NEW, THEY COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I, YOU COULD TELL THE ENERGY AND THEN HE HAS THE FAMILY'S CAR. 
          OH, HE HAS THAT SENSE OF PRIDE. 
          YES. 
          SO GOOD. 
          BECAUSE STAFF AT THE CITY OF TOWN, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ATTENDING, I SEE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE DIVERSITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DIFFERENT AREAS, EVERYTHING. 
          SO, AND THEY COULD SEE, I LOVE THAT THEIR CHILDREN ALL PROUD OF THEIR YEAH. 
          I LOVE THAT LESSON. 
          HE WAS LIKE, MAYBE THERE, THAT'S, AND RIGHT AWAY THERE'S THAT SENSE OF PRIDE AND OWNER THAT THEY NOW ARE PART OF THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S QUITE SURPRISING. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS STANDING. 
          YOU HAD TO STAND UP AND YEAH. 
          I, I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS IT FUNNY? YEAH. 
          FINDING THOSE GOOD PLACES BECAUSE SHE LIKE, YOU KNOW, AUNT IS LIKE TURNING 72 AND SHE JUST GOT ANOTHER BIG PROMOTION WITH NYU HOSPITAL. 
          WOW. 
          A BIG IT POSITION. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          AGE, SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE LOVES HER WORK. 
          SHE DOES GREAT WORK. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          HEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY, OH YEAH, WE'RE ONLY GONNA PROMOTE SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE 45 OR YOUNGER. 
          YOU KNOW, SHE DESERVED A PROMOTION. 
          SHE'S 72, SHE DOESN'T PLAN ON RETIRING SOON. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GO AHEAD AND PROMOTE HER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          UH, AND ENGLISH IS NOT HER NATIVE LANGUAGE EITHER. 
          , YOU KNOW, DO YOU THINK WE GOT THROUGH FULLY ENOUGH ON LET'S TALK ABOUT, LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT CAN WE PUT ESTABLISH IN THE PLAN? IS THAT MAYBE WE JUST HAVE TO ASK WHAT COULD BE A REASONABLE DATE TO MAYBE ASK THIS CITY, UH, CITY MANAGER TO COME FORWARD A INTERNAL EMPLOYEE, DEIB PLAN AND SHARE IT WITH? I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT. 
          YOU CAN'T ANSWER FOR THEM, BUT, OH, YOU'RE PUTTING ME ON THE SPOT. 
          UM, WELL, BASED ON HOW THIS MORNING WENT AND HOW YOU JUST ASKED THAT QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF 
          [01:40:01]
IT WOULD BE A PLAN THAT IS PRESENTED, RATHER THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING IN OUR CURRENT PRACTICES. 
          GOOD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND HERE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ENHANCE AH, PRACTICES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD, I LIKE THAT HERE'S A PLAN, BUT MORE LIKE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO INTEGRATE. 
          AH. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH SEVERAL YEAH. 
          AREAS. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          UM, LIKE POLICE MM-HMM . 
          UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN PART IN PARTS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF, THEY THEN THEY HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND THEY JUST WANT, WHAT WAS THAT? THEY JUST WON THE AUTISM. 
          YES. 
          UHHUH. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          FOR HOW THEY'RE DESIGNING THE PLAYGROUNDS. 
          AND I LIKE THAT THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON FOR KIDS OF DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS. 
          YES. 
          AND FOR ADULTS, ADULT LEAGUE YOUTH LEADS, AND THERE'S SO MUCH THINGS GOING ALL THE TIME. 
          I'M LIKE, I DON'T HAVE TIME. 
          I WANNA DO ALL OF THEM . 
          LIKE I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ALL OF THEM. 
          AND THEY, YEAH, THEY DO THE ING THING. 
          THEY DO A LOT OF COOL STUFF. 
          YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER AREAS LIKE 1, 2, 4, AND FIVE, WHICH ARE MORE OWNED BY THIS GROUP. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF MAYBE HAVE A MEETING WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF SHARE YOUR PLAN AND THEN ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO SHARE, HEY, WHAT ARE WE DOING ALREADY? DEIB WISE, AND WHAT ARE WE ADDING? MM-HMM . 
          COULD BE A GOOD APPROACH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          AND ASK FOR LIKE A JOINT MEETING? IT COULD BE, IT COULD JUST BE, I MEAN IT COULD BE, YEAH, THE CITY MANAGER COMING OR THE CITY MANAGER AND SOME KEY STAFF COMING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          'CAUSE THERE COULD BE PARTS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE COMMUNICATION MANAGER. 
          PARKS AND REGS MIGHT WANNA SHARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND UH, CHENEY MIGHT WANNA SHARE WHAT SHE'S DOING IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          OF COURSE, IRENE, UH, OWNS A LOT OF THE HR THINGS THAT ARE AROUND THIS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A TIMELINE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, UM, SIMILAR TO THE QUARTER FOUR, LIKE RIGHT BEFORE THE ANNUAL REPORT MAYBE IS A REALISTIC TIMEFRAME. 
          I THINK MONTH I HAVE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT PERCEPTION. 
          WHAT QUARTER IS NO, NOT IN A MONTH. 
          NO, BECAUSE, SO WE'RE IN BUDGET PLANNING SEASON RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO AS THINGS ARE INTEGRATED, IT CAN BE A LOOK BACK AND PULLING ALL THOSE THINGS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH. 
          SO I WAS, I WAS PROPOSING LIKE NOVEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT I THOUGHT LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE, AFTER FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AND ANSWER WELL ACTUALLY, BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING YOUR PLAN TO THE, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          BUT IT CAN ALSO BE PRESENTED TO THE STAFF KNOW IN THE JULY, AUGUST TIMEFRAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO SEE, WHAT DID WE SAY, UH, HOW WAS DURING THE END OF JUNE? YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE PRESENT THIS, WE PRESENT OUR PLAN TOWARD THE END OF JUNE, AND THEN THEY SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU CAN COME BACK IN NOVEMBER AND SHARE WHAT WE ARE DOING, BUT WE'RE ADDING, WE CAN ALL INTEGRATE THIS IN. 
          AND I SHARED, YOU KNOW, AND I SHARED THESE SLIDES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UH, IN THE RECORDED SESSION WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE KEY, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, KEY LEADERS. 
          I BETTER MAKE SURE I'M NOT LYING HERE. 
          SENIOR STAFF. 
          OH, HERE IT IS. 
          THIS IS RECORDED SESSIONS. 
          I DON'T THINK I, YEAH, I JUST WENT, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH WITH SUGGESTIONS ON THAT. 
          I JUST WENT THROUGH THE, THE ACTUAL, I PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, I DID PRESENT SOME OF THESE IDEAS IN THE MEETING TODAY. 
          JUST FEBRUARY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY WAS. 
          OKAY. 
          [01:45:04]
OKAY. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN TODAY'S MEETING, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL CAN USE SOME OF THESE IDEAS. 
          WHEN IS THE, UH, EMPLOYEE, IS THERE GONNA BE LIKE AN INTERNAL EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY DONE? YES. 
          AND THAT'S ANNUAL. 
          SO WE TOOK, UM, IT'S UH, THROUGH GALLUP UHHUH AND WE TOOK OUR FIRST SURVEY LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE TAKING OUR SECOND SURVEY IN MAY. 
          TOWARD THE END OF MAY IS WHEN THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. 
          AND SO THEY GONNA USE THE SAME QUESTIONS AND SEE IF THERE'S IMPROVEMENT OR DECLINE. 
          YEP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, ARE THERE ANY DIVERSITY QUESTIONS IN IT? UM, NOT EXPLICITLY. 
          UM, SO WE'RE USING QUESTIONS PROVIDED BY GALLUP THAT ALL HAVE A PARTICULAR DATA SCIENCE BEHIND IT. 
          AHA. 
          THE WAY THAT THEY USE IT. 
          HOWEVER, I DO THINK THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY IN, IN THE WAY IN WHICH THEY'RE WORDED, THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL LIKE, DO I BELONG HERE? RIGHT. 
          THAT'S KIND OF RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ONE WHICH, 'CAUSE I, I WORKED WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT USED THE GALLUP. 
          UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TOO. 
          I HAVE A BEST FRIEND AT WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND THAT BRINGS UP TO THE POINT THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT IS IF YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR COWORKERS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO STAY WITH THE ORGANIZATION MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT TIES IN WITH THAT. 
          AND DO THEY ACTUALLY ADD, ASK DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS SO THEY CAN CUT AND SLICE THE DATA BY DEMOGRAPHICS? NO. 
          HOW MANY, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DOES THE CITY OF HAVE? OH GOSH. 
          UM, APPROXIMATELY INCLUDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S JUST UNDER 200. 
          YEAH, THERE COULD BE AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE CRITICAL MASS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS AN ISSUE. 
          BUT LIKE AT IBM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY EMPLOYEES, EVEN IN YOUR DIVISION, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 6,000 EMPLOYEES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE BLACK EMPLOYEES, HISPANIC EMPLOYEES, GAY EMPLOYEES, ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, SIGNIFI, STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE ONLY, UM, DATA THAT WE DO COLLECT ARE, IS BY DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THAT IF, IF NEEDED, SO LIKE THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE DONE FACILITATED, UM, ACTION PLANNING WITH, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A TEAM OF LIKE FIVE OF US THAT WILL GO TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND FACILITATE, UM, HEY, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS, YOU GUYS SCORE REALLY LOW ON THIS ONE. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY AND HOW WE CAN HELP IMPROVE AND GIVE THEM OWNERSHIP AND, UM, EMPOWER. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO, TO CHANGE BY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HAVEN'T BROKEN IT OUT IN ANY OTHER YEAH. 
          SUBGROUP. 
          I'VE ACTUALLY DONE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE I HAVE ONE, UH, BUSINESS, I'VE WORKED A BUSINESS PARTNER. 
          WE DID, UH, A SURVEY AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND ALL, IT'S ONLY 12 QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE ALL WORDED, THEY'RE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS. 
          SO THEY ANALYZE THE LANGUAGE AND CAN TELL, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S ATTITUDES AND, AND WAS INTERESTING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE, THEY HAD LIKE 12 WAREHOUSES AND LIKE ONE WAREHOUSE, THE SCORES WERE JUST THROUGH THE ROOF. 
          IT WAS LIKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WAS HAPPY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WE CAN ANALYZE WHAT ARE THEY DOING EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO DO? WHY IS EVERYBODY AT THIS WAREHOUSE LIKE SUPER HAPPY? THEN WE FOUND THINGS LIKE, WE FOUND SOMETHING LIKE THE HIGHEST AREA OF CUS OF SET OF DISSATISFACTION WAS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND YOU THINK ABOUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING THE COMPLAINTS ALL DAY ON THE PHONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY'RE GETTING ALL THE PEOPLE CALLING UP THE YELLING AT THEM. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THEIR MORALE IS LOW. 
          SO, HEY, IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO LIKE MAYBE JUST UPLIFT THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM AND, AND SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE WORST JOB. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET A LOT OF DATA FROM THESE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          I WAS GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS THE CITY OF AUTO'S EXIT INTERVIEW PREVIOUS? I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HR. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          OH, DO THEY EVEN DO EXIT INTERVIEWS? THEY DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY DO. 
          YEAH. 
          OR HOW ABOUT STAY INTERVIEWS? STAY INTERVIEWS. 
          WHY, WHY YOU WANT TO STAY HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BEFORE THEY LEAVE, IT'S TOO LATE. 
          IT'D BE AMAZING IF MORE ORGANIZATIONS DID THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE SUCH A GOLDEN THING TO IMPLEMENT. 
          A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS, THEY STAY, I WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? WHAT ARE YOU GETTING OUT OF IT? AND IT'S MORE PERSONAL THAN THE GENERIC JUST EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION SURVEY THAT GOES OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE A FEELING THAT OVERALL, THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A BIG ISSUE HERE. 
          THAT THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THE RIGHT THING AROUND DIVERSITY IN THIS CITY. 
          WHEN YOU I SEE THAT WHAT THE PARK AND REX IS DOING, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO IRENE AND SOME OF THE THINGS SHE'S DOING AROUND RECRUITING. 
          SO IT'S NOT REALLY A BIG CONCERN. 
          IT'S JUST, HEY, IT'S GOOD FOR US TO CONTINUE TO LIKE, ENCOURAGE THIS UH, RIGHT. 
          CITY 
          [01:50:01]
EMPLOYEES TO CONTINUE TO DO THESE THINGS AND WE CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER. 
          BECAUSE I SENSE THE, THE, THE, UH, CITY STAFF HAS, UH, HERE AT HUDDLE HAS A HIGH MORALE. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          I CAN REALLY SENSE THAT. 
          I AGREE. 
          I SENSE WHEN THEY HAVE HOW HIGH MORALE THEY'RE GONNA BE TREATING ALL THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RESPECT. 
          RESPECT, YEAH. 
          JOBS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I HAD TO SAY THE SAME THING WITH RALEIGH. 
          WHEN I CALL UP, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CALL UP SOMEONE IN MY CITY WITH SOME KIND OF QUESTION, EVERYBODY JUST SEEMS SO HELPFUL AND NICE. 
          LIKE IN A GOOD MOOD. 
          IN A GOOD MOOD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M CALLING UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GARBAGE TRUCKS HAVE SKIPPED OUR STREET NOW TWO WEEKS IN A ROW. 
          , , WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY TRY TO HELP AND THEY CALL BACK AND IT'S STILL SMALL TOWN COMMUNITY REALLY, EVEN THOUGH THE, WE'RE UP TO LIKE 46,000 PEOPLE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S STILL SMALL TOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, IT STILL HAS THAT ATTITUDE. 
          IT'S GROWING REAL FAST. 
          SO I KNOW IT. 
          , WE THINK WE'RE KIND OF WINDING DOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GOOD. 
          SO THIS, WE'RE GONNA TALK TO WHERE TOMORROW WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH FOUR, WHICH IS ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EMPOWERMENT THROUGHOUT SOME IDEAS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, UH, CONTINUING TO GROW THIS CULTURE OF COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING FOR THIS GROUP TO HELP DRIVE TOO. 
          AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO THESE TWO, WE'LL GO BACK AND CIRCLE BACK AND REVISIT ONE, TWO, AND THREE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY NEW THOUGHTS TO ADD. 
          AND THEN I'M GOING TO USE ALL THIS TO CREATE THAT BIG PLANNED GRID. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN START SAYING, WELL, HOW, WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT? YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS A FUN GROUP TO WORK IN. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE'RE AT THE END. 
          NUMBER EIGHT. 
          UH, ADJOURN. 
          WOULD SOMEONE MOVE? MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN MEETING SECOND. 
          AND THAT IS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT ARE YOU STILL.
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