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[Planning and Zoning on May 7, 2025.]
UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING THE CITY OF HUTTO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER FOR TUESDAY, MAY 6TH, 2025.AND COMMISSIONER SHERROD HERE.
AND I'M COMMISSIONER BOYER AND I'M HERE.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM.
HEARING NONE OPEN AND CLOSE AT 7:00 PM ALL RIGHT.
THERE WAS, UH, I MADE AN ERROR.
IT DID NOT SAVE IN THE PACKET.
HERITAGE MILL IS ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL, BUT THE STAFF REPORT STILL SAID DISAPPROVE.
THE AGENDA LANGUAGE IS CORRECT.
IT DIDN'T SAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED HERITAGE MILL NORTH FINAL PLAT 38.163 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 142 LOTS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FM 1660 EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 63.
ITEM 4.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED GO OF PHASE FOUR FINAL PLAT 24.052 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 133 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FOUR OPEN SPACE LOTS LOCATED ON FM 1660 SOUTH.
ITEM 4.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED STROMBERG PRELIMINARY PLAT 327.14 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND CONSISTING OF RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL, AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES LOCATED SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 1 32, APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE WEST OF FM 33 49.
OKAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHERAD TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STEWART.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL TAKE A VOTE.
AGENDA ITEM 5.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD, PARDON ME, COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 8TH, 2025.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM APRIL 8TH, 2025.
I'LL SECOND IT SECOND YOU TELL ME.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WETZ TO ACCEPT ITEM 5.1, THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO.
HEARING NONE WILL TAKE A VOTE.
ITEM 5.2 CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE PROPOSED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR HOME DEPOT IN THE HANSON'S CORNER DEVELOPMENT AT 600 US 79 WEST 12.99 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED NORTH OF US 79 AND EAST OF ED SCHMIDT BOULEVARD.
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THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A PUD AMENDMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR STAFF REPORT.THIS IS THE, UM, SECOND TIME THAT THIS HAS COME FORWARD TO BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.
UM, IT IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, KNOWN AS THAT HOME DEPOT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND IT HAS THE BASE ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR B TWO IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
UM, IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE HU SO, AND FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.
UM, BUT WE WILL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, UM, THE REQUEST.
UM, SO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2014, WAS TO ALLEVIATE A CODE VIOLATION.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE CODE VIOLATION WAS FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND SALES.
THEY HAVE NOW EXCEEDED WHAT THEY WERE APPROVED FOR IN 2014.
THERE WAS ANOTHER CODE VIOLATION CITED.
SO THEY WANT TO UPDATE THE PUD TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT AREA AGAIN.
UM, MAINLY THE CONCERN IS THAT PART OF THAT CODE VIOLATION, UM, AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE A LANDSCAPING VIOLATION BECAUSE, UM, THE LANDSCAPING HAS DIED SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND WE NEED TO GET THAT BACK UP TO A CODE STANDARD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED IN THE, UM, IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE HERE'S JUST THAT TRACT.
IT IS, UM, SURROUNDED ESSENTIALLY BY COMMERCIAL EXCEPT FOR TO THE NORTH.
THERE IS THAT NORTH STAR PUD AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER BEING ON PNZ THAT IS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH.
BUT THERE IS A DRAINAGE CHANNEL BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
YOU CAN, UH, SEE HERE AS WELL.
WE HAVE THE ZONING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN AND WE'VE GOT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH OF THOSE.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S JUST THE GENERAL THAT WE HAD A CODE VIOLATION 2014.
THAT'S WHERE THE ORIGINAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT CAME FROM.
UM, THIS ONE IS NOW REQUESTING TO FURTHER EXPAND BEYOND WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014 WITH RENTAL SALES OF THE POWER EQUIPMENT AND THEN ALSO MORE TRUCKS OUT THERE SO THE PENSKE TRUCKS WOULD BE EXPANDED AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, YOU DO HAVE THE REST OF THE INFORMATION IN YOUR ORDINANCE.
THE ONE THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT, THIS DOES MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ESSENTIALLY OF THE PUD.
THE ONE THING THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HAVE TO CONDITION THIS, THAT BECAUSE THE SITE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT LANDSCAPING BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
UM, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THAT CODE VIOLATION, UNFORTUNATELY, IT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH, BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT PART OF OUR TEAM, BUT WE ARE AWARE THAT THAT IS A CURRENT ISSUE.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE IN THERE IT DOES, UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO CALL IT THAT ALTHOUGH EXHIBIT B IS IN THERE, SHOULD THIS REQUIRE ANY SITE PLAN REVISIONS, THE PUD OR ANY RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL OF THE PUD DOES NOT.
THEN GRANT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
IF THEY ACTUALLY NEED A SITE PLAN FOR ANYTHING THAT'S OCCURRING ON SITE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SEPARATE PROCESS.
SO EXHIBIT B IS JUST AN EXHIBIT, IT'S CONCEPTUAL NATURE ONLY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PUD AMENDMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? WE'LL OPEN IT AT 7 0 8 AND HEARING NO ONE COMING FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE IT AT 7 0 8.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THIS AS IS IT DESCRIBED AS, UM, TO ALLOW FOR COMPACT POWER EQUIPMENT RENTAL UP TO 12,000 POUNDS, SIX TONS, EXPAND THE TRUCK RENTAL TO ALLOW FOR MORE VERSATILE TRUCK SIZES AND MORE STALLS FOR THE PENSKE TRUCK R RENTALS.
ADD SIX NEW LOAD AND GO PICK UP TRUCK RENTAL STALLS AND PROVIDE OUTDOOR SERVICE.
WHERE'S DID THEY HAVE A A SITE PLAN? I IT'S IN HERE.
I HAVE THIS, UH, THIS ONE, I HAVE THIS ONE ON PAGE 1 58.
UH, NO, IT'S NOT THE FULL COLOR ONE.
IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4 PAGES PAST THAT.
AND CHERYL, IF YOU HAVE THE SMALLER VERSION, IF YOU WANNA SHARE THAT OVER WITH COMMISSIONER MORRIS AS WELL, THERE'S OH, THAT, SO, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
THE NEXT PAGE IS A BIGGER, UH, COLOR.
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THANK YOU.SO, UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S PAGE 180 2 IN HERE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE DIGITAL.
IF YOU PAGE FIND PAGE 180 4, THEN IT'S THIS PAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER ON IT.
SO JUST, I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH HOME DEPOT
SO, UM, I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PARKING LOT IS, IS IS LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO EX ACCESS THIS AND BE ABLE TO, THERE IS SOME TRAFFIC THINGS THAT ARE GOING EAST, WEST.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT AS A THOROUGHFARE, WHICH IS NOT THE, THE BEST THING FOR THAT.
UM, I, I DON'T ARE THERE HOME DEPOT REPRESENTATIVES HERE? NO.
UM, I, I'VE HEARD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO INSTITUTE PAID PARKING TO, UM, AND I DON'T, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF THIS, IF, HOW SUBSTANTIATE IF THEY COULD SUBSTANTIATE THIS TO HAVE THE OVERFLOW FROM THE BREWERY ON THE, UM, SOUTH SOUTHWEST.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE PARKING.
I, I GUESS THAT'S NOT IN THIS PUD, BUT NO, IT'S NOT IN THE PED BUT WITH NO HOME DEPOT REPRESENTATIVES, I HAVE NO ANSWER FOR YOU.
THAT'S ON MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE ACCOMMODATE THIS FOR PARKING IN THE CUSTOMERS? ALSO KNOWING THAT'S A MAJOR EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE FOR PRIMARILY THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING FROM THE LOW SIDE OVER TO, UM, EXCHANGE, UM, MAYBE AS MUCH AS 10 OR 15% OF THE TRAFFIC IS JUST THROUGH, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THE PARKING GONNA, IS THIS EXPANDED PARKING GONNA CAUSE ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES AS WE START TO FILL UP THE HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW ON A BUSY, BUSY DAY, IT'S PROBABLY ONLY THREE QUARTERS FULL AT THE MOST.
SO ARE WE GONNA LOSE A QUARTER OF THE SPACE, UM, FOR THIS EXPANDED SALES? AND OBVIOUSLY HOME DEPOT GONNA DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I I DON'T HAVE ANY, I I'M NOT GONNA, I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO DISPROVE THIS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS GOING FURTHER FORWARD.
NOT NECESSARILY TO ANSWER IT TONIGHT OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
CAN ANY OTHER, YEAH, I, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING AS FAR AS WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE, WHAT WAS LOST.
I ASSUME THAT WAS PROBABLY LOST DUE TO, UH, ICE EVENTS, ET CETERA.
BUT IF IT WAS DUE TO LACK OF IRRIGATION, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND, UH, WITH NO REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I PERSONALLY, UH, WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS NEXT MONTH.
AND MAYBE THEY'LL SHOW UP AND CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
EITHER THAT OR WE COULD APPROVE, APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE LAND LANDSCAPING DOES HAVE IRRIGATION.
BUT IF IT ALREADY HAS IRRIGATION AND THEY'RE STILL DYING OFF, THEN NEED TO MODIFY THAT CONDITION, I WOULD THINK.
BUT THE STAFF CALL LETTER CHECK, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S INSTALLED CORRECTLY.
AND WE ALSO CONCURRENT, SO ANY, ANY CODE VIOLATION, WE WOULD GET A CONCURRENCE LETTER THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.
BUT FOR SOME LOW WATER USES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IRRIGATION.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CORRECT IT STAFF WOULD, UM, ENSURE THAT IT WAS CORRECTED AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OFF.
IF, IF THEY PLANTED A BUNCH OF AGAVE OUT THERE, LIKE, UH, I'VE SEEN IT SOME HEBS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THEY FROZE AND DIED, WELL THEN IRRIGATION'S NOT SUCH AN ISSUE.
PLUS I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING OF STUFF.
IT'S JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LOT OUT.
THERE IS
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10, UH, PARKING SPOTS.BUT YOU'VE GOT THE SEASONAL SALES, THE SHED SALES, THE EQUIPMENT.
I KNOW A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS ALREADY OUT THERE, BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY COVERING UP THE ENTIRE FRONT, WELL, NOT THE ENTIRE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE ROUGHLY 50 TO 60% OF THE STORE FRONTAGE IS VISIBLE.
SO, SO ARE THEY WANTING TO, WHERE THE STORAGE SHEDS ARE, ARE THEY WANTING TO EXPAND THAT INTO THEIR GARDENING AREA TO SO THEY CAN, CAN PUT THE MULCH AND STUFF IN THAT AREA? I, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S GONNA BE A SMALL EXPANSION ON THAT FAR WEST SIDE AND THEN THERE WOULD BE EXPANSION, UM, WITHIN THE PENSKE AND THE CON ON THE, UM, FURTHER EAST SIDE FOR THE CONTRACTOR.
IT'S ON PAGE AND WITH THAT, SORRY, PAGE 1 69 TELLS WHERE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND PUT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'RE MM-HMM
AND WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, ASHLEY, THEY'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR PARKING STALL REQUIREMENT, ESSENTIALLY.
I MEAN THIS IS DEFINITELY, THIS IS AN OLDER SITE PLAN.
SO THIS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE BACK IN 2004 WHERE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE, THIS IS DEFINITELY AT THE HIGHER END OF PARKING IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN SAY NO TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO DO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR ANSWER REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING WOULD HAVE ANY ULTIMATE BEARING ON THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE TO APPROVE.
LIKE IF THEY CAME AND SAID WE WEREN'T HANDLING OUR LANDSCAPING AND WE WILL GOING FORWARD, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE VOTE? OR IF THEY SAID WE WEREN'T HANDLING OUR, LIKE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE LANDSCAPING.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE IT EITHER WAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW POSTPONING THIS TO NEXT MONTH, THERE'S REALLY WOULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S JUST THE TREES KIND OF AT THE, YOU'VE GOT TREES UP TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE, SO SOUTHEAST CORNER YEAH.
VIOLENCE WITH SOME, AND THEY ADDRESS ALL OF THAT IN HERE.
I WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
WELL IF, WILL YOU DO THAT? HAVE THEY EVER BEEN APPROACHED TO MOVING THEIR, THEIR SHEDS? THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO OVER EVERYBODY'S HEAD, BUT, UM, FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE STORE ON, ON THE STORE SIDE UP BY THE STORE ON THE WEST SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE THE EXISTING AREAS ARE.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S WHERE THEY STORE A BUNCH OF THEIR, THEY HAVE A, A BUNCH OF STORAGE RACKS THAT RIGHT.
I MEAN THEY SHOULD, RIGHT? THEY HAVE SOME ON THAT SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT NO, WHERE THEY WANT THEIR, WE DON'T REALLY GET INTO PRESCRIBING WHERE THEY SHOULD PUT THEIR OUTSIDE SALES BEYOND WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY APPROVED TO DO.
AND ACCORDING TO THIS, THEY'RE GONNA PUT SHED SALES IN 15 OF THE PARKING SPACES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT NEAR THE GARDEN CENTER.
WELL THEY, THE, THE SHEDS ARE ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT PART WILL EXPAND SOMEWHAT AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR SIDE WHERE THEY RENT EQUIPMENT WILL ALSO BE EXPANDING.
SO IF THEORETICALLY THEY'RE NOT LOSING ANY PARKING SPACES FOR YOU AND I, I WOULD SAY WITH THE CODE VIOLATION, BECAUSE THEY'D ALREADY EXPANDED BEYOND WHAT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
THEY'RE NOT, YOU WON'T SEE ANY CHANGES OUT THERE.
'CAUSE IT JUST GETS THEM BACK INTO COMPLIANCE.
IT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS.
THEY'RE GOING FROM HAVING 12 FOOT PENSKE TRUCKS TO ADDING 26 FOOT PENSKE TRUCKS AND THAT MIGHT TAKE UP AN ADDITIONAL PARKING STOP.
BUT BEYOND THAT, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL ON THEIR SITE PLAN, TO ASHLEY'S POINT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY LOSING MUCH PARKING BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST EXPANDING WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON EACH END.
SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH THE TRUCKS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, UM, THEY WERE ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE PUD, THIS GETS THEM BACK INTO COMPLIANCE IF THAT WAS TO BE RECOMMENDED.
SO YOU WON'T SEE A MAJOR CHANGE ON THE, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY BECAUSE THEY HAVE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
THIS JUST SAYS, OKAY, YOU'RE GETTING APPROVAL FOR WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, UM, AND YOU CAN EXPAND BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE PARKING, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN TAKING UP THOSE SPACES.
SO REALLY THE MAIN ISSUE IS THEN THE LANDSCAPING.
WELL, I, I DO HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RESEARCH A LITTLE FURTHER.
AND THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR SALES.
WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH THIS FURTHER LOOKING AT THE UDC, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUTDOOR SALES ARE PROHIBITED IN THIS ZONE.
IT WAS ALLOWED THROUGH THE PUD.
OH, IT WAS ALLOWED THROUGH THE UD YEAH, IT WAS A, AN ORIGINAL VIOLATION IN 2014.
THEY HAVE EXPANDED BEYOND THE ALLOWANCE.
UM, WE WOULD NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT BASED ON THEIR OWN ZONING, WHICH IS WHY THEY WENT TO A PED BECAUSE LOWE'S WAS ALLOWED, WHICH IS WHY HOME DEPOT THAT WENT TO A PED.
YOU WOULD NOT HAVE OUTSIDE STORAGE OR SALES IN THAT ZONING.
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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 5.2.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 5.2 AS PRESENTED.
WILL YOU ADD TO THAT THE, UH, WITH THE RECOMME, UH, WAIT A MINUTE.
LANDSCAPING WITH THE FOLLOWING WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THE LANGUAGE IN 15.4 IS EDITED TO ALLOW FOR A TOTAL OF 10 PARKING SPOT STALLS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING RIGHT THERE FROM THE STAFF.
I AGREE TO YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
DO YOU, DO YOU, WILL YOU MAKE, MAKE THAT PART? YEAH.
AND THEN ALSO WITH THE, UH, A SECOND CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS BRINGING THE SITE LANDSCAPING INTO COMPLIANCE AS STATED IN IT JUST WENT AWAY.
I, I, HAZEL, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL? I DO, YES.
THOSE BOTH INCLUDED IN WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED THOUGH? YES.
THEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AMEND.
SO MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE AS STAFF RECOMMENDS.
IF YOU WANT PUT IT THAT WAY, THAT'S FINE TOO.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD, DO YOU NEED ME TO RESTATE ANYTHING OR WE GOOD? PLEASE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 5.2 WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS SECOND MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STEWART AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD TO APPROVE ITEM 5.2 AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.
THAT PASSES FIVE TO ONE ITEM 5.3 CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE HU INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AT 3 0 1 DESTINY LANE.
HU HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER 2 76 0.135 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT CODES FOR THE FOLLOWING.
10.40, 3.2 BULK SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, 10 POINT SIDEWALKS, 10 POINT PARKING, 10.40 5.9 AND FIVE MOTORCYCLE AND BICYCLE PARKING, 10.40 6.6 THROUGH 10.0 6.6 0.7.
ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND MATERIALS, 10.7 LANDSCAPE AND 10.7 0.2 PARKING LOT AND VEHICULAR SCREENING.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THIS A FEW TIMES NOW.
THE ISD HAS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT APPROVED BY BOTH PARTIES IN 2019 AND THEN AMENDED IN 20 UH, 23.
SO THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOLLOWS THAT STANDARD PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING TO PROVIDE, UM, HOW DO ISD, THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THEIR SCHOOL SITES, UM, KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING ON SITE AND JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS ONE, THIS IS A LARGE MASTER PLAN COMPLEX.
SO WE JUST NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE SO THAT IT ALL WORKS OUT IN THE END FOR BOTH PARTIES.
UM, THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR IS ABOUT 159 ACRES.
IT IS STILL HOME TO THE NINTH GRADE CENTER.
UM, THERE IS ALSO THE AG BORNE AND THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND THEN THE UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NUMBER EIGHT IS ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION OVER THERE.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE LAST, UM, ITEM THAT THE COMMISSIONER SAW WOULD BE THAT, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NUMBER EIGHT THAT ALSO HAS THAT DAYCARE ATTACHED TO IT.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS SURROUNDED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF UM, ETJ TO THE WEST.
WE DO HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT IS ALSO IN THE ETJ INTO THE SOUTH.
WE HAVE UM, MAIN HIPAA WAY, BUT THEN ALSO MUSTANG CREEK OR A CITY, UM, SUBDIVISION.
SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY.
THESE ARE ALL VERY STANDARD AND, AND WE TRY TO KEEP THE SAME FORMAT AS WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.
SO THE FIRST UM, REQUEST IS TO HAVE THE BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, VARIATION AND WITH THE NINTH GRADE CENTER AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE.
UM, WE HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH THAT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ELEVATIONS AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED WITH YOUR PACKET.
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IT LOOKS GOOD.UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING THAT YOU WOULD'VE SEEN WHEN WE DID THE HU HIGH SCHOOL EXPANSION AS WELL.
SO STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THIS REQUEST AS PRESENTED BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
WE'RE ESSENTIALLY JUST GRANTING SOME EXTRA HEIGHT FOR A HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, THE SECOND IS SIDEWALKS AND CONFORMANCE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE UDC WRITES.
UM, AND FOR ANY SIDEWALKS WE WERE LOOKING AT IT.
UM, THE ISD KNOWS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AS FAR AS THEIR INTERNAL CIRCULATION.
THERE IS AN EXHIBIT TO SHOW THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION.
UM, AND THEY HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WHERE THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE BE LOCATED AND HOW UM, EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS WITHIN THAT MASTER PLAN COMPLEX.
UM, SO WITH THAT ILA, AGAIN, WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND STAFF DOES NOT HAVE CONCERNS WITH THIS REQUEST EITHER WITH, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS STOPPING YOU OR DO YOU WANNA JUST GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE PARTS WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON? LET'S JUST COME BACK.
UM, I MEAN ESSENTIALLY WE COULD SPEED THROUGH IT.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE OTHERS, WE HAVE THE SIDEWALKS, WE HAVE MOTORCYCLE PARKING.
OBVIOUSLY STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE BICYCLE PARKING, THAT ALSO MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE EXISTING RACKS.
WE DON'T REALLY NEED THEM EXPANDED.
THEY KNOW WHICH STUDENTS ARE GONNA BE UTILIZING THOSE.
AND SO WE ARE GOOD WITH THIS DEVIATION AS WELL.
UM, WE DON'T WANNA REQUIRE SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT IS THE SAME STAFF IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVIATION.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EXPANSION, BUT WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO CONTINUALLY RECREATE WHAT IS ALREADY OUT THERE AS FAR AS THOSE, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE PARKING LOTS OUT THERE NOW.
UM, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE LANGUAGE MATERIALS, YOU'VE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
UM, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE ADOPTED CODES.
THE ISD, UM, ALWAYS HIRES, WELL THEY HAVE GREAT ARCHITECTS.
UM, WE HAVE THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY WOULD BE MAYBE SOME OF THE MASSING AND THE LONG FEATURES, BUT AGAIN, WITH THE PROGRAMMING INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF.
THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WHERE WE SAW A LITTLE BIT.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE UM, SEEN IS A REDUCTION OF 70%.
UM, THE, WHAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT, BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY ONLY DO A 30% REDUCTION, IS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE ONE CONDITION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INCHES BETWEEN JUST FOR THAT 10% JUST ADDED TO ANY OF THE TREES THAT ARE GOING ON SITE.
BECAUSE IF YOU SEE THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET ALSO LOOKS REALLY GOOD, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A FEW OF THOSE INCHES.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE, UM, THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST THAT WE HAD COMING FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AT THE LAST.
SO WE FIGURED WE WOULD UM, STICK WITH HOW WE HAD SAID IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TREES, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE INCHES OF TREES.
IF THE 30% REDUCTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN APPROVED, THEN LET'S STICK WITH ESSENTIALLY THE 30% REDUCTION.
BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF TREE INCHES.
UM, WE FEEL THAT THAT WOULD STILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE ILA BUT NOT PENALIZE ANYBODY BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE REDUCED LANDSCAPING.
SO WITH THAT, YOU'LL SEE SOME PICTURES HERE.
UM, THIS IS ALSO WHAT STAFF HAD REVIEWED.
UM, WE ARE GOOD WITH HOW THIS BUILDING LOOKS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH UM, MORE OF THE FRONT ENTRY.
AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR SITE PLAN WITH WHERE THEY ARE PLANNING, UM, TO HAVE ITEMS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THAT LARGE 159 ACRE CAMPUS.
UM, AND I CAN FLIP BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT THIS ONE STILL HAS, IT'S JUST NOT AS FUN TO LOOK AT AS THAT PRIOR UM, PAGE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE WITH THEIR, THE SIDEWALK EXHIBIT THAT THEY HAVE, THEY ARE PROVIDING UM, AMPLE, SORRY, AMPLE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THAT CAMPUS.
UM, TO KEEP THE STUDENTS SAFE BUT ALSO JUST REQUIRE THE CONNECTIVITY AND THEN ALSO TO THE SOUTH.
SO THERE IS CONNECTIVITY TO THAT, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE SOUTH.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE DID NOTIFY EVERYBODY WITHIN 600 FEET.
UM, WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES, WHICH THAT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS AS PRESENTED TO GO FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? 5.3 REGARDING HURO HIGH SCHOOL.
NUMBER TWO, HEARING NONE, WE'LL OPEN AND CLOSE IT AT 7:29 PM I WANNA COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, SO WHERE IT IS POTENTIAL MID-BLOCK PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, ARE WE GOING TO ASK THAT DAY, PUT THAT IN OR WE GOING TO LEAVE IT
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UP TO THEM? 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PUT IN MIDBLOCK.SO WHAT WE'VE ALLOWED IS BASED ON THIS EXHIBIT, UM, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH DRIVERS AND THOSE LONG DRIVE AISLES, WE DID NOT WANT MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS JUST ANYWHERE.
WE WERE GOING TO LET YEAH, JUST FOR THE OWN SAFETY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CROSSING ON SOME OF THOSE MAIN DRIVE AISLES THAT THEY ARE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CROSSING GUARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR ANY HELP THAT THE STUDENTS ARE REALLY JUST IN ONE LOCATION, JUST NOT CROSSING WHEREVER THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
BECAUSE I LIKE THE WAY THEY HAVE THE CROSSWALK, UH, BY CVS, UH, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WHICH ALLOWS THE KIDS TO CROSS.
SO THEY'RE NOT JAYWALKING TRYING TO DODGE THAT BUSY TRAFFIC THERE.
THIS, AND I COULD SEE THIS HAPPENING.
SO THIS IS TO THE SCHOOL SITE.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT.
BUT WHAT THEY REALLY LOOKED AT, UM, AND WHAT THEY WORKED WITH STAFF ON IS THAT THIS IS JUST GOING TO CONNECT INTERNALLY TO EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THE COLORS FOR ME? SO WE'RE SAYING, THEY ARE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA DO THE, WHAT IS THAT ORANGE? MM-HMM
THEY'RE NOT DOING THE BLUE AND THEY'RE NOT DOING THE YELLOW.
THE BLUE WOULD STILL BE THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY SIDEWALK.
BUT THAT THE GREEN, SORRY, THE GREEN, THE ORANGE IS TO SHOW THE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY.
WE'RE SAYING THAT PART OF THIS IS FOR THEM TO DO JUST THE ORANGE? NO, IT WOULD BE ALL OF THOSE, BUT THE INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY WAS THE MAIN STICKING POINT.
SO THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY SIDEWALK, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S STILL A LABEL FOR THAT BLUE THAT IT IS PROPOSED.
'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO VERIFY SOME FOR SIDEWALK.
I'M GETTING RESIDENTIAL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
CALEB MILLI WITH DUNAWAY HERE REPRESENTING SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE EXHIBIT.
SO THE ORANGE IS THE INTERNAL ROUTING OF THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS.
WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT THE RECORDING MAY NOT.
UH, ORANGE IS THE INTERNAL WALKWAYS.
UM, THOSE WOULD BE, UH, CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE BLUE WOULD ALSO BE CONSTRUCTED THAT IS AROUND THE PERIMETER.
UH, GENERALLY ON THE WESTERN, UH, SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG FM 1660.
THE YELLOW IS A LONG MAIN HIPPO ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THOSE STREETS.
AND THAT IS EXISTING SIDEWALK IN PLACE TODAY.
SO IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, THAT OTHER LITTLE TINY BLUE, SO THERE'S A CROSSWALK THERE AND ONE AT THE END, RIGHT? THE BLUE IN THE MIDDLE THAT CROSSES MAIN HIPPO KIND OF UM, RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE WESTERN DRIVEWAY OF LEE MARTINEZ ELEMENTARY.
THAT'S A POTENTIAL MIDBLOCK CROSSING.
SO THAT'S TO BE FURTHER STUDIED BEYOND WITH OUR TEAM, BUT WE WANTED TO AT LEAST ILLUSTRATE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL CROSSING THERE AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE OVERALL CAMPUS FROM THAT SOUTHERN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING BOTH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.
IT'S THE SCHOOL AND UH, Y'ALL BEEN TALKING TO, UH, THE COUNTY ABOUT POSSIBLY EN ENLARGING, WIDENING THE ROAD THERE BECAUSE AS IT LOOKS NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON, WHAT IS THAT HIPPO ROAD, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, MAIN.
AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE ONE UP FURTHER UP AND THERE'S A BIG SUBDIVISION GOING IN THERE.
THAT IS A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THE ROAD RIGHT NOW FOR THE NINTH GRADE CENTER IS WIDE ENOUGH AS IT IS 'CAUSE IT'S A TRAFFIC JAM.
UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE, HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE COUNTY OR OR WHOEVER TO WIDEN THAT ROAD.
AND WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING LIGHTS PUT UP THERE? UH, YES SIR.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THAT.
UH, SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN CLOSED COLLABORATION WITH BOTH THE CITY OF HU TXDOT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
UH, WE HAVE A MEETING THAT'S FORTHCOMING, UH, THIS WEEK ACTUALLY ON THURSDAY.
UH, WITH ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
THERE HAS BEEN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THOSE PARTIES.
UH, A TIA ANALYSIS HAS, HAS BEEN PERFORMED.
IT WAS AN UPDATE TO THE 2019 MASTER TIA FOR THE OVERALL CAMPUS THAT HAS SINCE BEEN UPDATED WITH MORE RECENT COUNTS THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF SOME OF THE BUILT OUT RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE ON THE WEST AND UH, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.
UH, WHICH THOSE WERE NOT OF COURSE THERE IN THE PREVIOUS 2019.
SO WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE GROWTH AND THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC ALONG FM 1660 AND MAIN HIPPO, UH, DRIVE.
AND SO THE ANALYSIS, UH, SHOWS THE POTENTIAL MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH, UM, THOSE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ABOUT, UH, PROPOSED,
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UM, IMPROVEMENTS AND WHEN THOSE MAY BE PHASED IN OVER TIME.WILL YOU BE TALKING TO 'EM ABOUT LIGHTS? UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE IN CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THAT, UH, MITIGATION MEASURES.
SO IS IT PREMATURE FOR US TO BE TALKING SIDEWALKS IF THEY'RE GONNA EXPAND THE ROAD? YOU SPEAK UP OR I'M JUST QUESTIONING ARE WE, IS IT PREMATURE FOR US TO BE TALKING SIDEWALKS? IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THAT ROAD POTENTIALLY LIKE SIDEWALKS I'M HOPING WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT PLAN.
UM, UH, RIGHT AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE'S UH, THE ANALYSIS DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A ROAD WIDENING OR LANES ADDED ALONG FM 1660.
UM, ONLY THAT POTENTIAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS WOULD BE, UH, ALONG FM 1616 AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, UH, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT FIREFLY POINT DRIVE.
AND THEN SOUTHERN, UH, SOUTH OF THAT THE, UH, MAIN HIPPO INTERSECTION WITH THE FUTURE EXTENSION TO THE WEST OF COUNTY ROAD ONE 18.
UM, THAT SAID, THE PROPOSED BLUE SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY INSIDE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
SO, UM, IT IS BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR TXDOT.
UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE INSIDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY.
AND AM I SEEING CORRECTLY THAT THERE IS A DESAL LANE TO TURN RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY? UH, YES MA'AM.
THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE MITIGATION, UM, AS PART OF THE TIA AND WE'RE WORKING WITH TXDOT FOR APPROVAL OF THAT.
YEAH, I'LL ENGINEER WILL IF THE MI MITIGATION EFFORTS, UH, DO NOT BEAR FRUIT AT FIREFLY POINT DRIVE, WOULD YOU CLOSE THAT? WOULD YOU OR ARE, IS THAT GOING TO BE DUMPING ONTO 1660 NO MATTER WHAT? UM, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IN SUPPORT OF THAT INTERSECTION, UH, CONDUCIVE OF A SIGNAL BEING PROPOSED.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA WORK WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES TO GET THEM TO ALLOW FOR THAT.
UH, GIVEN OUR ENGINEERING ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN PERFORMED, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER FIREFLY POINT DRIVE IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE TRYING TO DO ON OUR SIDE OF THE, THE ROAD, UM, NOW PROVIDED IF THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS NOT APPROVED, ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY REVISIT OTHER MEASURES, UM, AND HOW WE WOULD ROUTE TRAFFIC IN AND FROM THE SITE.
BUT SINCE IT GOES RIGHT INTO A HUGE PARKING LOT, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN JUST GET RID OF THAT ROAD.
NO, WELL THE ROAD HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT I MEAN THAT'S A HUGE PARKING LOT.
SO YEAH, SO, SO YEAH, SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF AND, AND WITH THE DESIGN TEAM, WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH CITY OF HU AND AS I MENTIONED WITH T DOT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
SO, UM, PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN HAD AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IN THE, THE MEETING THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL PARTIES INVOLVED THIS THURSDAY, THAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MITIGATIONS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED.
I'M JUST SAYING IF THE MITIGATION FAILS, WE NOW HAVE 17-YEAR-OLD DRIVERS WITH SIX MONTHS OF EXPERIENCE TRYING TO TURN OFF OF A 55 MILE AN HOUR CURVE.
WELL HOPEFULLY TEXT DOT WILL HOPEFULLY AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
HOPEFULLY, BUT NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
BUT IF NOT, I WANNA KNOW IF, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO RE-LOOK AT HOW TO GET IN THERE.
YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE TO BECAUSE YEAH, I WELL IF, IF THEY DON'T, IF YOU LOOK COMING OFF OF THAT PARKING LOT, IT'S COMING DOWN SOUTH, GOING UP THROUGH THE OTHER PARKING LOT, COMING BACK DOWN HERE AND ALL THE TRAFFIC WOULD COME THEN BE PUT ON TO UM, IS THAT MAIN HIPPO? MAIN HIPPO, YEAH.
WHICH WOULD MEAN THEN THEY WOULD BE TAKING A RIGHT TO GET TO 1660 SOUTH, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A LIGHT AT MAIN HIPPO.
BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA CREATE THE TRAFFIC JAM ALSO TOO WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND THE CORNER IN 1660 TRYING TO GO OUT OF THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN.
THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SAFE, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING OUT THROUGH.
IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THOUGH, I DON'T WANT THE, THE ISD SAYING, WELL IT'S IN THE PLANS, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN THERE ANYHOW.
WHAT IF YOU MOVE THAT RO MOVE THAT ROAD AT FIREFLY TO THE SOUTH, MOVE IT, THAT'S NOT THEIRS.
THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS LIKELY BETWEEN FIREFLY
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AND TWILIGHT, WHICH IS WHY THEY'VE TRIED TO LINE THAT UP.'CAUSE FIREFLY IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS REQUIRED.
WELL, FIREFLY'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY, BUT WE DON'T WANNA HAVE OFF MIDBLOCK.
IT JUST MAKES IT THAT MUCH WORSE.
UM, BUT YEAH, ONCE UM, ENGINEERING IS ABLE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE'LL KNOW MORE ONCE WE GET INTO SITE PLANNING, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, OBVIOUSLY SAFETY.
UH, OTHERWISE THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I AM LOOKING AT, UH, IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGING INCREASE IN INCHES ON THE TREES.
THAT WORKED VERY NICELY I THINK FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE TREES.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A AMAZING LOOKING PRODUCT BECAUSE OF THAT COMPROMISE BETWEEN A BUNCH OF TWO INCH TREES AND GETTING MORE MATURE TREES IN THERE.
AND IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THIS ONE, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU COULD ADD? YES MA'AM.
I'M THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF OPERATIONS AND JUST ONE POINT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, CURRENTLY LEE MARTINEZ IS GOING TO BE FINISH UP IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAVE PLANS TO TAKE OUR OWN PRIVATE ROAD THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF LEE MARTINEZ AND THEN RUN IT ALL THE WAY TO 1660.
SO IT WILL GO FROM THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP AND EXIT OUT THE MAINTENANCE TRANSPORTATION HIGHWAY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING A SECONDARY EXIT THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO, INSTEAD OF ALL TRAFFIC HAVING TO LEAVE ON MAIN HIPPO, IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO EXIT NORTH AND TRAVEL ALL THE WAY UP TO 1660.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS ROAD? NO, SIR.
NO, KEEP WAY TO THE RIGHT, TO THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT HERE.
NO, THE ROAD THAT'S THE LEFT, THE RIGHT, THE OTHER RIGHT.
I DUG ON MY RIGHTS FROM MY LEFT TODAY.
MILITARY RIGHT
LOOK FOR THE, LOOKS LIKE A POOL.
SO RIGHT THERE AT THE TENSION POND WE'LL HAVE A, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A ROAD THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF LEE MARTINEZ, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO AN EXTENSION THAT WILL RUN NORTH ALL THE WAY TO 1660.
SO WE'RE PLANNING IN ADVANCE TO ASSIST ON GETTING TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF LEE MARTINEZ AS A SECONDARY EXIT ALONG WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THE HIGH SCHOOL IS PROPOSED FOR OPENING IN 2027.
SO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 26 MONTHS BEFORE WE ANTICIPATE IF ALL THINGS GO WELL TO OPEN UP THE HUS SCHOOL.
THAT ROAD, IS IT TWO LANES AND DOES IT HAVE SIDEWALKS? UH, IT'S TWO LANES.
WE HAVE NOT PROPOSED SIDEWALKS AT THIS POINT, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SUBDIVISIONS CURRENTLY.
THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE WALKING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO PUT SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THERE WILL BE EVENTUAL HOMES AS WELL.
THERE'S A, THERE IS A SIDEWALK THAT, UM, THERE IS A SIDEWALK, UM, PROPOSED ON THE WEST SIDE THERE.
WHAT THE, THE ROAD THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY WILL BE CREATING, THE ONE THAT HE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT GOES FROM LEE MARTINEZ UP NORTH TO 1660 MM-HMM
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR SIDEWALKS AND I'M SAYING I THINK THEY NEED TO INCLUDE THEM IN THAT PLAN.
SO I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, ITERATE THAT THERE IS PROPOSED SIDEWALK ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT PLANNED ROAD AND THAT'S AN INTERNAL PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, BUT IT IS TWO LANES.
SO I'M THINKING WHEN I HEAR A PRIVATE DRIVE, I'M THINKING QUOTE UNQUOTE EXCHANGE FROM LIMMER TO WHAT IS IT? TO EXCHANGE.
EXCHANGE WHERE IT ENDS AT HOLLAND EXCHANGE.
FROM LIMMER TO HOLLAND IS ISDS ROAD.
WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO MAKE THAT WORK AS A CITY ROAD.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK OUT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS THE SAME SORT OF SITUATION WHERE THERE WILL BE AN ISD PRIVATE ROAD GOING FROM MAIN HIPPO UP TO, AT THAT POINT IT'S EASTBOUND 1660, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM
BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC.
WELL, CURRENTLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 95% OF THE POPULATION DOESN'T LIVE NORTH OF THIS.
WELL IT DEPENDS TOO ON HOW THEY ZONE THE SCHOOL.
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FIGURED THAT PART OUT YET.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY NINTH GRADERS.
BUT TO HIS POINT, IT WILL BE BUILT OUT IN 27 IF EVERYTHING HAPPENS.
LIKE IF THEY'RE WANTING IT TO, IT'LL, IT WILL BE A PHASED,
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WE WON'T OPEN IT FULL CAPACITY.SO YOU'LL EITHER OPEN IT AS A NINTH AND A 10TH GRADE OR, OR AT NINTH AND 11.
IT DEPENDS ON THE CAPACITY AT HUDDLE HIGH SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.
SO I'M ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR BOUNDARIES AND ASSIGNMENT OF STUDENTS UNDER MY CAPACITY, SO I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH.
SO TO THAT POINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHO FROM, DEPENDING UPON WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT END UP GOING THERE, BUT YOU COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY, JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THEY ZONE IT.
STUDENTS WHO LIVE SOUTH OF 79 TRAVELING UP THERE.
WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT 1660 EAST.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO THE, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE, UM, THE BICYCLE RACKS.
SO IT'S SAID IN HERE THAT THERE'S AN, THAT IT'S BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, THE NUMBER OF BICYCLE RACKS, BUT WHEN THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, WAS THAT BASED OFF OF IT BEING A NINTH GRADE CENTER ONLY OR DID THAT CONSIDER THE FULL BUILD OUT AND THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL NEED FOR MORE BICYCLE RACKS AND I'M NOT THINKING BASED OFF OF, UM, PARKING SPACES AND ALL OF THAT.
I'M THINKING ABOUT STUDENTS AND THOSE WHO MIGHT USE THEIR BIKE.
LIKE ARE THERE ENOUGH FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT? SO HONESTLY, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON A PRACTICALITY.
FROM A SCHOOL BUILDING STANDPOINT, WE PUT AS MANY BIKE RACKS AS NEEDED.
WE WILL NOT ALLOW STUDENTS TO COME AND JUST LAY THEIR BIKES HERE OR THERE.
SO IN MY, IN PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WHERE THERE'S NOT LIMITATIONS, WE ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE AND THEN WE ADJUST THE BIKE RACKS, ADIDAS TO ACCOUNT FOR STUDENT TRANSPORTATION THROUGH BICYCLES.
MAY I ADD TO COMMISSIONER STEWART OF, OF THE BIKE RACKS YOU HAVE NOW, WHAT ARE THEIR CAPACITY? ARE WE AT HALF CAPACITY, 90% CAPACITY? I, I HAVE NOT DONE A STUDY ON THAT.
ON THE BIKE RACKS, YOUR MIC PER SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING, HOW MANY BIKE RACKS ARE REQUIRED? IT'S NOT PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN.
IT'S FOR EVERY 20 VEHICLE BASE.
SO THE, THE BIKE RACK, UH, RATIO IS BASED OFF, UM, PARKING.
AND SO THAT WE DID DO A CALCULATION AS PART OF THE EXPANSION.
AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS, WE WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 50 SPOTS.
THAT'S, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S RACKS THAT WILL MAKE UP ESSENTIALLY 50 THE CAPACITY OF 50 BICYCLES ESSENTIALLY.
HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE NOW OR ESTIMATE? I WANNA SAY THERE'S A COUPLE OF RACKS OUT THERE.
PROBABLY FIVE OR 10 CAPACITY EACH.
SO IT WAS RATIO OF THE NI ESSENTIALLY THE NINTH GRADE POPULATION IN THE PARKING THAT WAS THERE.
SO, SO YOU'RE GOING FROM 20 TO TO 70, UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? RIGHT.
YEAH, JUST ESTIMATE NOT HOLDING.
CAN YOU READ, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF SWITCH SUBJECT IF I MAY, IF Y'ALL FINISH WITH THAT.
UM, MY CONCERN IS WITH THE ILA IN GENERAL, IT'S BEEN A STICKING POINT IN THE PAST, SO I DON'T WANNA START OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT WITH THE OR, UH, IS THAT I LOOK, I FIND THE LILA AND IT'S 11 PAGES SIGNED THE 25TH OF JANUARY, 2024.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, NOWHERE IN IT DOES IT HAVE THE WORD SIDEWALKS.
NOWHERE IN IT DOES IT HAVE THE WORD LANDSCAPING? NOWHERE IN IT DOES IT HAVE PARKING.
SO WHEN IT SAYS LIKE SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, THIS IS UNDER, UM, UH, ITEM ONE FOR MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT.
IT SAYS, UH, UNDER THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUDU AND HUCUL, WE ARE REQUESTING A, A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR DEVIATIONS TO THIS PORTION OF THE UDC.
I DON'T FIND ANY OF THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
SO YOU'LL SEE IT IN ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS THAT SAYS, UM, THERE ARE GONNA BE AREAS THAT WE WORK BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
IT DOESN'T GO INTO SPECIFICS ON WHAT'S REQUIRED, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER SECTION THAT SAYS THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW THE MAJORITY OF OUR AND AND IS THIS TEXT LOCATED IN THE ILA IN THE IT SHOULD BE THE AGENDA SHOULD BE, YEAH.
MY RECOLLECTION, I DON'T HAVE THE ILA IN FRONT OF ME.
YEAH, I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
I'VE SEARCHED FOR THOSE WORDS AND THEY'RE NOT THERE.
WE DON'T, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS.
IT REFERENCES BACK TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE AND TAKE WITH THOSE AFTER A MEETING WITH STAFF.
SO IF I LOOK UP UDC, THEN I THINK THEY KEEP IT VAGUE ON PURPOSE.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE CAN ADJUST THE UDC, WHAT'S NOT WHERE THE, THE LETTERS UDC OR I THINK IT SAYS DEVELOPMENT CODES OR ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING.
I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND MAKE IT.
WELL, AND AND I'M NOT ASKING IT TO BE ANSWERED RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE ILA 'CAUSE OF THE HISTORY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISPARAGE ONE PARTY OR ANOTHER.
WE JUST, WE, WE, WE WRITE THE CONTRACT, WE FOLLOW THE CONTRACT AND IF THERE'S
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SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE CONTRACT, WE CHANGE THE CONTRACT.UM, IT'S JUST, I, I JUST DON'T SEE SPECIFIC REFERENCES THAT I CAN FIND AND MAYBE MY OWN MISADVENTURES THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OR DEVIATING FROM THE ILA SAYS WE CAN, I CAN'T FIND THAT IN THE ILA THAT SAYS WE CAN'T.
I'M NOT SAYING IT ISN'T THERE.
I JUST, WE CAN SHOW YOU AFTER THE MEETING.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT ON SOMETHING? HOW MANY TREES ARE YOU PLANNING AND PLANTING THERE? IT'S HARD FOR ME TO READ THIS
I'M OLD AND EVEN WITH GLASSES, I STILL CAN'T READ IT.
HI, MY NAME IS OLIVIA PIT PEREZ.
I'M WITH COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT.
UM, WE HAVE A CURRENTLY A TOTAL OF 228 TREES, UM, ON THE SITE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THAT'S AT THE 80% DEDUCTION OF THE LANDSCAPED AREA FOR THE SITE.
UM, I THINK I HEARD A COMMENT ABOUT TWO INCH TREES WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING THREE INCH TREES ON THIS SITE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT THE 20 TO 30% THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, BY ADDING ANOTHER 27 TREES ON SITE.
I DID THE CALCULATIONS THIS MORNING WHEN WE SAW SOME OF THE COMMENTS.
UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD 27 4 INCH TREES ON SITE TO MEET THAT MITIGATION COUNT.
UM, BUT IN THE PLAN YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE PRIORITIZED, BUFFERING THE PERIMETER AND THEN ADDING A LOT IN THE USE AREAS FOR THE STUDENTS AND THE TEACHERS OF THIS SITE.
SO IN THE COURTYARDS PUBLIC AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE GATHERING.
SO THEY ARE, UM, PROMOTING SHADE FOR THOSE OUTDOOR USES.
AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY DID YOU SAY AGAIN? 200 AND WHAT? 2 28.
YEAH, AND THAT'S ONLY 20%, WHICH IS KIND OF THE WILD PART BECAUSE I THINK THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE OVER CLOSE TO 1200 TREES, WHICH WOULD HONESTLY BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO PACK INTO THE SITE EVEN WITH HOW LARGE IT'S, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH 200.
SEEING HOW THERE'S NO TREES THERE NOW ANYWAY.
YEAH, ACTUALLY I WAS HOPING TO CONFIRM I'M KIND OF CHEATING AND USING MAGNIFICATION ON THIS
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT 11 TEXAS RED BUD, 61 TEXAS MOUNTAIN LAUREL MM-HMM
UM, SO, OH, I DIDN'T PRINT THAT OFF THE TOTAL COUNT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING THE PLANS WHILE THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN IN FOR CITY REVIEW.
SO AS OF THIS MORNING, OUR LATEST, UM, DOCUMENTATION, I WAS SHOWING THAT WE HAD 75 2 AND A HALF INCH CALIPER ORNAMENTAL TREES, 21 3 INCH ORNAMENTAL TREES FOR A TOTAL OF, UM, 96 ORNAMENTAL TREES ON SITE AND THEN 228 SHADE TREES.
UM, VARYING WITHIN I THINK NINE DIFFERENT SPECIES OF TREES THAT WE'RE USING.
I DON'T KNOW THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I, YEAH, THE, I'M PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT THAT GOOD.
THIS, THIS ONE IS, LET'S SEE, 180 2, 219 SHADE TREES.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, BUT SHE, ON THIS FIRST SHEET ON L 1 0 0, THE EXHIBIT, THERE'S A OVERALL LANDSCAPE KEY.
THIS IS PRETTY CLOSE, NOT JUST CRATE MYRTLE, TEXAS, MOUNT LAUREL.
I KNOW WE ADDED SOME DESERT WILLOWS AT THE FRONT JUST FOR NICE ORNAMENTAL APPROACH.
MEXICANS, ANDMORE, CHIN PIN, OAK SCA, OAK, SHAMAR OAKS, SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS AND CEDAR ELMS. SO A NICE VARIETY THAT WORK HERE IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION.
YOU'RE STILL GONNA PUT CEDAR ELM IN THERE.
DO I STILL WANT IT IN THERE? CEDAR ELM? IT, IT'S JUST MORE UPRIGHT AND A VERTICAL SO IT DOESN'T GROW OUT.
SO IT'S BETTER NEXT TO THE BUILDING.
I JUST CAN'T STAND THEM, BUT, OH, SORRY.
THEY'RE BETTER FOR PEDESTRIAN USE.
I GOT SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU THERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, REAL, REAL, REAL, REAL QUICK ON THE SCREENING OF THE PARKING LOT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL IS THAT GONNA BE? SO, SO WE ARE AT A DEFICIT ON THE SCREENING.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, BUT IT'S A MIX OF SHADE TREES AND ORNAMENTAL TREES.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING SHRUB BUFFERING AROUND THE PARKING LOT TO SCREEN THE VEHICULAR PARKING.
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FIVE GALLON SHRUBS.UM, I THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK WE DID, UM, TEXAS SAGE, MAYBE DWARF WAX MYRTLE OR DWARF BURFORD.
SOMETHING WITH HEIGHT THAT WILL GET THAT BUFFERING AND SCREENING THAT'S REQUESTED IN THE CODE.
I I JUST WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS PLANTS OR IF IT WAS A IT'S A MIX THE WAY YOU TYPICAL.
THE WAY WE HAVE TO MEET THE CODE, IT'S A MIX OF THEM.
CAN BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY, SORRY, WHAT'S THE, UM, THE BAND PRACTICE AREA, WHAT TYPE OF FOUNDATION IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR THEM? CONCRETE.
WELL I KNOW THAT WE JUST PAINTED THE ONE AT HU HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREMELY HOT FOR THE BAND TO BE PRACTICING AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN FOR IT TO BE THE BLACK, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD TO USE.
CONCRETE WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN ASPHALT.
AS LONG AS IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK THE BAND WILL BE HAPPY.
SO
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS USED IN THE SUMMER AS WELL, BUT IT'S GONNA GET HOT.
YEAH, THEY START BAND PRACTICE VERY SOLID.
I PLAY THE SAXOPHONE AND I MADE IT THROUGH IT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK IT'S, THANK YOU FOR GOOD THIS TIME.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, THE PART, JUST THE PART, GOING BACK TO SIDEWALKS, THIS IS WHERE I'M JUST NOT CLEAR.
ASK HER IN CASE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE WAIT, YOU WANT SIDEWALKS AGAIN? YEAH.
WHAT WOULD THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT OF THEM BE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ILA? UM, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY BECAUSE OF THE ZONING.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST SAY FOR ANY NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, IT'S USUALLY SIDEWALKS LIKE THIS.
SO THE THINK OF, UM, THE ONE THAT WE JUST DID WITH HOME DEPOT, ALTHOUGH THAT ONE IS SIGNIFICANTLY OLDER, YOU DO TRY TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ASKED HERE.
AND THE ISD KNOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROGRAMMING.
SO THIS WORKS FOR US AND I THINK IT HAS TO HAVE A PERIMETER SIDEWALK.
IS THAT CORRECT? TYPICALLY BY ALL THE PLATS.
NOW KEEP IN MIND THIS WAS PLATTED IN THE COUNTY.
UM, SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT AGAIN FOR, UM, THE 1660 SIDE WOULD BE THE, UM, THE MAIN ONE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE THOSE BOUNDARY SIDEWALKS ON THE SOUTH WHEN MAIN HIPPO WENT IN, THOSE SIDEWALKS WERE INCLUDED.
UM, SO TYPICALLY YOU DO HAVE THE BOUNDARY SIDEWALKS, BUT CERTAINLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST ADDING SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY WON'T BE UTILIZED OR WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THEIR PHASING SCHEDULE.
AND KIND OF GOING WITH YOUR, UH, COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM THE, UH, THE NORTH ENTRANCE MM-HMM
WOULD THEY, WOULD THE ISD BE REQUIRED TO LAY DOWN SIDEWALKS IF THAT WAS WARRANTED? FOR INSTANCE, IF THE, IF THE LAND ACROSS 1660 BECAME RESIDENTIAL YEAH, WHERE IT ALREADY IS, IT'S NOT BUILT RE NO, NORTH, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NORTH.
OH YEAH, RIGHT AFTER THE CURVE.
THAT, IF THAT BECOMES RESIDENTIAL.
ARE, IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT IN THE ILA OR ANY IN ANYWHERE? I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT THE ISD THEN PUTS IN THE SIDEWALK ON JUST A, JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
JONAH WILL OWN APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES IN BETWEEN OUR MAINTENANCE, TRANSPORTATION, MAINTENANCE, TRANSPORTATION AND THAT TOP FOOTBALL FIELD.
SO WE DON'T, WE, THEY'LL OWN 2.5 ACRES, WHICH WILL BE A PORTION OF THAT SECTION.
SOON AS YOU PASS THE CURVE, THEY HAVE ACQUIRED TWO POINT.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ONE ACRE AND HAVE ACQUIRED ONE POINT MORE, 1.5 ACRES FROM US.
SO EAST OF THE, UH, THE BUS BARN.
SO YOU TAKE THEIR CURRENT, THAT ONE GIANT WATER TOWER AND THEN IN BETWEEN THE WATER TOWER AND THE HUMP MM-HMM
SO WE'LL, WE'LL IN BETWEEN THE HUMP AND THEN WE'LL TAKE, THEN WHEN THE BUS BARN AREA KICKS IN, THEN THAT'S OUR PROPERTY ALSO.
SO THE OTHER, I'M STILL STUCK ON THE WHOLE FIRE FLY POINT DRIVE DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO IF I'M, IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY, I'M GONNA STAND UP AND POINT AT THE THANK GOSH, CAN YOU REACH IT? NO, I CAN'T
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SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF I LIVE HERE AND I JUST WANNA WALK TO SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT.ARE THERE ANY PLANS RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A CROSSING GUARD OR ANYTHING? BECAUSE TO, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, NO.
SO I'M GONNA PLAY CHICKEN TO GET TO SCHOOL AND BACK HOME EVERY DAY.
THAT'S, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.
SO CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME CONNECT THOSE DOTS? THAT'S GOOD POINT.
I THINK THEY WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE A SCHOOL CROSSING GUARD THERE.
UH, SO ON THE WEST SIDE OF 1660, THAT IS ALL ETGA.
SO UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT HELD TO THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE.
UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE, UH, PROPOSING SIDEWALKS ALONG FM 1660 ON THE WEST SIDE.
THEY DO HAVE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THOSE WOULD END WHEN THEY COME TO FM 1660.
UM, BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THEIR PROPERTY IS PROPOSING THE BLUE LINE, WHICH WOULD INDICATE CONNECTING THE TWO INTERSECTIONS, UM, ON, ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS OF ESSENTIALLY THE SCHOOL USE.
AND SO ONCE THEY CROSSED 1660 AT THE PROPOSED INTERSECTIONS, WHICH WE HAVE SUPPORTED AS BEING SIGNALED, UM, FOR A SAFE CROSSING.
SO ONCE THEY'RE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE BLUE ROUTE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT AS PART OF OUR PROJECT.
WOULD IT BE THE, IN THE HI, THE I ISS D'S PURVIEW TO, TO PETITION TXDOT TO CROSS FROM CAMPUS WEST TO FIREFLY? HAVE WE WERE TO ACROSS 1660.
AS PART OF OUR MITIGATION, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AT FIRE AT THE MAIN DRIVEWAY TO THE NORTH, WHICH ALIGNS WITH FIREFLY POINT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WILL BE MEETING WITH TXDOT.
UH, TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE.
SO FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS.
FOR ME, IT FEELS A LITTLE EARLY.
AND THE REASON IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT INTERSECTION.
AND IF I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE THAT THE KIDS ARE GONNA BE SAFE WITH A WAY TO CROSS OVER 1660 IT, AS A PARENT, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE PLAN IS.
SO FOR, FOR ME, IT'S TOO EARLY AND I'M VOTING NO ON THIS.
UM, I, I DO HAVE A, UH, ANOTHER SIDEWALK QUESTION.
UH, LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ARE THERE ANY SIDEWALKS FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO MAIN HIPPO? UH, YES.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS THAT GO FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH ONE, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY ROUTE INTERNALLY ALONG THAT MAIN DRIVEWAY, UM, TO THE WEST, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAIN, UM, HIPPO.
AND THAT'S, CAN'T, CAN'T SEE IT ON THE RIGHT.
THE, SINCE THOSE ARE ALREADY DONE, THEY AREN'T A PART OF THIS SUP APPLICATION? NO, NO.
I'M, I'M ASKING, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE, WHAT IS IT, MIDBLOCK CROSSING? YEAH.
BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ELEMENTARY KIDS HEADING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1660 AND THEN HEADING ALL THE WAY BACK IF THEY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, I'M GOOD WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN HERE EXCEPT THE 1660 ACCESS FROM THAT PARKING LOT THAT, THAT JUST IMMEDIATELY RAISES A RED FLAG FOR ME.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN CONDITION THAT FOR MITIGATION? YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE IN TALKS FOR MITIGATION, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN CONDITION THAT TO SAY, HEY, IF THE MITIGATION GOES THROUGH, THEN WE'RE GOOD? OR IS THERE A WAY TO PULL THAT, THAT, UH, CHANGE TO THE SUP? IS THERE A WAY TO PULL THAT OUT? NO, YOU CAN CONDITION, UM, OKAY.
AND THEN THAT WOULD GO TO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A CONCERN AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, AND THEN YOU COULD ALSO CONDITION, I'M HEARING THE MIDBLOCK, THE SMALLER BLUE LINE ON THE SOUTH BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THAT TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, YOU ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR RECOMMENDING BODY POWERS TO, UM, ALSO SUGGEST A
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CONDITION THAT, THAT MITIGATION IS IN PRIOR TO SOMETHING.SOME, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER DATE, UM, YEAH.
PRIOR, PRIOR TO THAT, HAVING ACCESS TO, OR IF IT, OR IT NEEDS TO CHANGE, IT WOULD COME BACK FOR MODIFICATION OF THE SUP MM-HMM
UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE SUP TYPICALLY.
I, I DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT ACCESS UNLESS THAT IS MITIGATED, BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S JUST A SCREAMING RED FLAG.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
THE HEIGHT CHANGE SOUNDS GOOD.
THE SIDEWALKS, AGAIN, AS LONG AS THE BLUE CROSSWALK GOES IN ACROSS MAIN HIPPO, I THINK THE SIDEWALKS ARE GOOD.
I THINK THE LANDSCAPING'S GOOD.
IT'S JUST DUMPING OUT ONTO 1660 RIGHT THERE.
I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT, SO I DON'T WANNA HOLD UP THE ENTIRE SUP BECAUSE OF THAT ONE ISSUE.
I DON'T WANNA HOLD IT UP EITHER, BUT I AGREE WITH, WITH CHERYL TOO, TO A POINT MM-HMM
IT WOULD MAKE IT A WHOLE LOT NICER TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE.
BUT LIKE WE CAN DO THE, THE, UM, CONDITION OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, AND IT TIE IT, IT FREES UP THE SCHOOLS START DOING THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO.
BECAUSE WE, WE NEED THE SCHOOL AB ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE DON'T NEED THE SCHOOL IF THE KIDS ARE GONNA GET HURT GOING THERE THOUGH.
WHAT WAS THAT? SO WE DON'T NEED THE SCHOOL IF OUR KIDS ARE GONNA BE HURT GETTING THERE.
I THINK THAT HU HIGH SCHOOL IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE NINTH GRADE CENTER ALREADY.
SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL.
I'M JUST YEAH, I WE'RE, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
WELL, I THINK, I THINK THOUGH, IF WE, IF WE APPROVE IT WITH THAT CONDITION THAT GIVES THE SCHOOL THE OPPORTUNITY TO START, IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, THEN THE SCHOOL WILL HAVE TO WORK AROUND IT SOMEHOW.
THEY WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
I MEAN, THEY WILL, I MEAN,
THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK WHERE IT'S GONNA SATISFY US AND THEM.
AND I DON'T AG I WANT THAT TO BE IN WRITING.
THAT'S, I NEED IT TO, TO BE FINE.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT SHOULD, BUT I, I, WHAT MY ISSUE IS, THEY'RE GONNA WITH YOU SAYING THEY'RE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT.
THAT'S VERY VAGUE AND THAT'S LEAVING IT INTO THE ISD AND WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH HOW THEY FIGURE IT OUT.
AND SO FOR ME, I DON'T FULLY AG CAN WE NOT MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO US.
SO IF AN SUP CHANGES, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY, THEN YES, IT DOES HAVE TO COME BACK IF IT DOESN'T, SO THAT THERE, YOU COULD JUST HAVE THE CONDITION THAT IF THAT INTERSECTION IS NOT MITIGATED OR IF IT NEEDS TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND THAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION TO COUNSEL.
IT WOULD BE UP TO COUNSEL FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE WORDING OR DO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND I, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE LANGUAGE THAT I WAS GONNA PUT IN THERE, THAT IF MITIGATION ON THE INTERSECTION OF FIREFLY POINT 1660 NORTH AND THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT ACCESS, IF THAT MITIGATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL, THEN THERE WILL NOT BE ACCESS FROM THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT TO 1660.
AND WHEN YOU SAY MITIGATION, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ADD VERY CLEARLY THAT THERE MUST BE A CROSSWALK WITH A SIGNAL OKAY.
LIKE I, AND NOW I'M GETTING, OKAY, NOW YOU'VE GOT A THIRD ONE,
WELL, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE POINT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND GET APPROVED TONIGHT.
SO MY NAME IS ALEX NELSON, I'M A VLK ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, WE, WE OBVIOUSLY HEAR YOUR POINTS LOUD AND CLEAR AND LIKE CALEB MENTIONED, UM, WE DO HAVE A MEETING SET WITH TEXDOT TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES.
AND AGAIN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT IS, IS ACTUALLY BROKEN GROUND, BUT, UM, STILL WELL UNDERWAY TO, UH, RESOLVING THOSE ISSUES.
BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT WITH THIS SUP PERMIT THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, THE ONLY ACTION ITEM ON THAT AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE SIDEWALK, UM, CONDITIONS.
ON THE SUP, THE, THE SEVEN ITEMS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED DEVIATES FROM THE UDC WHEN IT COMES TO INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE SITE AND WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING LOTS ON THE SITE.
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I HAVE A QUESTION.WHAT'S THE NAME OF THIS HIGH SCHOOL GONNA BE? MEADOW HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER TWO.
WE HAVE NOT, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO SELECT THE NAME.
JUST TRY A COUPLE OF KEY, A COUPLE OF KEY FACTORS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES INVOLVED AND THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A SAY AT WHAT TDOT WILL ALLOW OR WHAT THE COUNTY WILL ALLOW.
AND SO IF YOU SET CONDITIONS BASED UPON THAT AND WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR IT, BUT IT'S NOT APPROVED, THEN YOU KNOW THAT GETTING A LOT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS.
AND SO ANY DELAYS OR NOT ALLOWING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEN WOULD HAVE MAJOR CONSEQUENCES ON THE DISTRICT AND CAUSE SEVERE OVERCROWDING, THE DISTRICT'S INABILITY TO PROVIDE QUALITY EDUCATIONAL SERVICES TO OUR STUDENTS IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
ASHLEY, DO YOU HAVE THE NEXT PICTURE? OR MAYBE IT'S PREVIOUS? THAT ONE? YES.
SO KIND OF AS A COUNTER TO THAT, I SEE STUDENT PARKING TO THE EAST AND WEST OF THE NORTH FIELD HOUSE.
I SEE A ROAD PROPOSED BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT SCHOOL OPERATIONS WOULD BE IMPACTED BY PUTTING A BARRIER BETWEEN THE STUDENT PARKING LOT ON THE WEST SIDE AND FM 1660 UNTIL MITIGATION IS ACCOMPLISHED.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
STUDENT PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE NORTH FIELD HOUSE EMPTIES OUT ONTO 1660, PUTTING A BARRICADE IN BETWEEN THAT PARKING LOT AND 1660 UNTIL MITIGATION IS ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THAT BECOMES A SAFE INTERSECTION WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT SCHOOL OPERATIONS.
AS DESIGNED BY OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEER, THE AMOUNT OF SPACE NEEDED TO SUP ADEQUATELY SUPPORT STA UH, STUDENT PARKING IS DESIGNED AS SUCH.
AND SO THAT IS OUR CURRENT PLAN.
WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY STUDENT PARKING.
YOU'RE INDICATING THAT WE WOULD ACCESS STUDENT PARKING FROM THE ROAD THAT CONNECTED FROM DESTINY LANE, LIKE THE OTHER STUDENT PARKING IS ACCESSED.
SO I WOULD'VE TO REFER TO OUR ENGINEER BASED ON A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE EFFECT THAT WOULD HAVE THAT YOU WOULD BE FUNNELING TRAFFIC EITHER NORTH THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AROUND THE MAINTENANCE TRANSPORTATION, OR YOU'LL BE FUNDING ON ALL PROPERTY DOWN TO DOWN TO MAIN HIPPO TO EXIT ON 1660, BOTH OF WHICH ARE SAFER OPTIONS AND COMING OFF OF 1660 IN MY OPINION.
SO I THINK THE PLAN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED HERE IS AN OPTIMUM LAYOUT AND THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE SAFEST NATURE FOR THE ROUTING OF STUDENT DRIVERS AND ALL DRIVERS GOING TO AND FROM THIS SITE.
SO WE'RE CERTAINLY HERE YOUR CONCERNS.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU ADVOCATE ON OUR BEHALF TO TEXT DOT BECAUSE AS DUSTIN MENTIONED, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS SUPPORT OF THAT, BUT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
AND SO WE ARE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO PLEAD OUR CASE.
WE'RE GONNA AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT PROVE OUT THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE PREPARED AND THAT IS WHERE WE WILL MAKE OUR CASE EXACT, UH, I'M, I'M TRYING TO A, MAKE IT SAFE UNTIL MITIGATION IS IN PLACE, BUT ALSO PUT PRESSURE ON TXDOT TO MAKE SOME MITIGATION CHOICES.
LET'S GET THE CROSSWALK IN THERE.
I KNOW IT'S A COUNTY ROAD OR A FARM TO MARKET ROAD.
SO WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR, UH, THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE AT THAT DRIVEWAY.
UM, AS WELL AS WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR WITH TXDOT TO DO A SPEED ANALYSIS AND ACTUALLY INSTALL A SCHOOL ZONE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR PROPOSED MITIGATION.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
WE'RE MEETING WITH THE OTHER JURISDICTIONAL ENTITIES, UH, WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND TXDOT TO MAKE THAT CASE AS WELL.
AND IF, AND IF THAT'S PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS ON THE, AND AND, AND JUST TO, YEAH, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN TIA WITH THE CITY OF OF JUDO.
SO WE HAVE AN OPEN CASE TIA, SO THAT'S IN ENGINEERING MM-HMM
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S OPEN, IT'S BEEN THROUGH, UM, REVIEW AND WE
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HAVE ESSENTIALLY PENDING COMMENT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE MEETING WITH TEXT DOTS.SO IT'S TO GET ALL PARTIES IN THE SAME ROOM AND HOPEFULLY YOU ARRIVE AT, UM, YOU KNOW, AN AGREED TO SOLUTION.
SO THE TIA THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, THAT'S JUST EVALUATING CURRENT TRAFFIC? CORRECT.
SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT EVALUATES CURRENT TRAFFIC, BUT IT ALSO PROJECTS A GROWTH RATE BASED OFF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USING HISTORICAL DATA, WE KIND OF SEE HOW MUCH VOLUMES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
WE THEN TAKE THAT GROWTH WEIGHT AND WE PROJECT THAT OUT.
WE PROJECTED IT OUT TWO YEARS FOR WHEN THE SCHOOL IS OPENING.
SO THEN WE LOOK AT A CCA SCENARIO OF SCHOOL OPENING DATE, WHAT THE SURROUNDING, UH, NETWORK FROM A TRAFFIC VOLUME AND CONGESTION STANDPOINT WOULD BE.
WE STUDY A LEVEL ANALYSIS AT EACH OF THE KEY INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE STUDY LIMITS, AND THEN WE PROJECT OUT A FIVE YEAR HORIZON.
SO ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER FIVE YEARS WITH THE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM THIS LAND USE.
SO THE ADDED VOLUME THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD GENERATE THAT GETS ADDED ONTO THAT.
AND THEN YOU GROW THAT FOR THE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THAT CASE TO SEE IF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS STILL SUFFICIENT FOR ALL OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
HOW DOES THE FUTURE FIRE STATION THAT'S ON THE MAP PLAY INTO YOUR TIA, UM, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR PLAN AS A WHOLE? BECAUSE HAVING A FIRE STATION RIGHT THERE IS, IN MY OPINION NOT IDEAL.
UM, IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES USING THE SAME ROAD.
SO AT THIS TIME, THE F THE FIRE STATION WAS NOT FACTORED INTO OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BASED OFF OUR KNOWLEDGE.
THE ESD HAS PLANS FOR THAT, BUT IT'S BEYOND A FIVE YEAR HORIZON RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NOT KIND OF WITHIN OUR STUDY BOUNDARY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.
THAT, THAT'S JUST A, YOU'RE GONNA CREATE AN EMERGENCY, GOING TO AN EMERGENCY, POTENTIALLY HAVING THAT RIGHT THERE ON A HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I HAVE TEENAGERS WHO DRIVE TRUST ME, I
SO HOW WOULD Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT TABLING THIS TO NEXT MONTH UNTIL AFTER THEY'VE HAD THEIR MEETING WITH TXDOT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY ON THURSDAY? THEY'LL HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND THEY CAN ADD THAT INFORMATION TO THIS FOR US TO BRING BACK AND HAVE A BIGGER PICTURE.
I WOULD RATHER NOT HOLD UP THE SUP, I'D RATHER NOT HOLD UP THE SUP PERMIT.
UM, WHAT IF WE COME BACK, LET'S SAY AFTER THEY HAVE THEIR MEETING AND HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SO WE COULD GET THE WE NOT HAVE TIME FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING? NO CALL MEETING.
I, I DON'T AGREE TO POSTPONING THIS.
WE CAN HAVE CONDITIONS AND WE CAN HAVE FOLLOW UP, BUT, UH, YEAH.
AND THEN THE BUT ISD IS ABLE TO ALSO PRESENT THE UPDATED INFORMATION AT THE, UM, COUNCIL MEETING THAT WOULD STILL OCCUR THAT IF THERE ARE UPDATES, WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL IF THAT HELPS ALLEVIATE ANY OF THOSE CONDITIONS.
THE, THE PROVERBIAL BALL IS ROLLING.
I, I PERSONALLY NOT, I PERSONALLY SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TWO CONDITIONS.
IF ANY OF THE ENTITIES DO NOT AGREE TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT FIREFLY POINT DRIVE IN THE ENTRANCE OF THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT, CAN WE MAKE THAT A RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY ON FM 1660? SO THERE ARE NO LEFT TURNS GOING OUT OF THE SCHOOL ON FM 1660 FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
I THINK THEY'RE WANTING US TO NOT SOLUTION IT TODAY.
I THINK HE'S ONLY WANTING US TO STICK TO SIDEWALKS.
AND I, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT BECAUSE IF IT IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP TO THE FLIP AROUND RIGHT BELOW THE WATER TOWER, TAKE A LEFT ACROSS TRAFFIC ANYHOW.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE FURTHER POINT AGAIN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UH, TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THAT SIDEWALK DEVIATION.
UM, ASHLEY, IF YOU'LL, UM, FLIP BACK OVER TO THE SIDEWALK EXHIBIT.
UM, JUST SO FOR YOUR POINT OF REFERENCE, WHAT IS TRULY DEVIATING FROM THE SIDEWALK CO CODE IS, SO THAT BLUE LINE THERE THAT YOU SEE THAT STOPS THAT FIREFLY.
UM, AS WRITTEN IN THE UDC, IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW THAT LINE FOR LINE, ESSENTIALLY THAT SIDEWALK WOULD WRAP ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CURVE OF 1660.
RIGHT? THAT IS THE ONLY PORTION THAT DEVIATES FROM, FROM THE UDC.
AND WHY ARE YOU CHOOSING NOT TO DO THAT? REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS A COUPLE FACTORS.
SAFETY BEING ONE AND TWO, LIKE DUSTIN MENTIONED, WE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE OR SEE THAT GROWTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1660 AS MUCH AS WE DO FROM THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH.
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I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, COULD YOU EXPAND ON WHY IT'S SAFER NOT TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK? MY OPINION IS IF YOU SEE A SIDEWALK THERE, THEN YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GONNA GO TO THAT SIDEWALK AND UM, ANTICIPATE THAT IT IS UNDER SAFE USE.
SO IF THERE IS NOT A SIDEWALK THERE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE, I GUESS ANTICIPATED TO USE THE NEAREST CROSSING.
YEAH, I WASN'T TRYING TO QUESTION JUST CLARIFICATION.
SO, SO AM I UNDERSTANDING YOU ALL YOU REALLY WANT US TO DO IS GIVE YOU THE SUP FOR THE SIDEWALKS TONIGHT? DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK FOR THE REST OF IT AT ANOTHER DATE? NO, JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THE SUP IS ONLY FOR THE DEVIATIONS FROM THE UDC, WHICH IS THAT ONE SIDEWALK ITEM JUST TO SHOW THE INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY AND THE OTHER SIDEWALK.
UM, ANYTHING THAT MEETS THE UDC WOULD STILL JUST BE APPROVED BY STAFF THROUGH OUR FULL REVIEW PROCESS AS WE DO FOR EVERY OTHER SITE.
I JUST WANT TO GET THAT CLARIFIED.
SO WE'RE MAKING THIS HARDER THAN IT'S
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 5.3 AS PRESENTED, UH, BY CITY STAFF.
UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS AS FAR AS CONDITIONS OR FOLLOW UPS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
WELL JUST, JUST MAKE YOUR MOTION WITH THE, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE STIPULATION WE TALKED ABOUT.
SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS AND I DIDN'T WRITE 'EM DOWN.
BUT CAN THOSE STIPULATIONS EVEN BE CONSIDERED? BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING ABOUT IS UDC ADJUSTMENTS, RIGHT? SO THE ONLY THING WE'RE DISCUSSING IS SIDEWALK.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT TWEAKING THIS AND MODIFYING THAT, THAT HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
SO YOU HAVE TO SCRATCH THAT AND IT'S SOLELY THIS SIDEWALK PIECE IS WHAT THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE ABOUT.
AND CERTAINLY WE WILL STILL STAFF DOES, UM, LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION FROM THAT MEETING THAT THEY WILL BE HAVING TO ENSURE.
I MEAN THE STAFF IS ALWAYS GONNA LOOK AT THE SAFETY.
THE ISD IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE SAFETY.
UM, IF THE, LET'S SAY THAT THAT CONNECTION DOES NOT HAPPEN, THEN I, I COULD SEE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU THAT, HEY, THAT SIDEWALK IS NOT GONNA GO IN OR IT'S NOT GONNA BE AT THAT LENGTH OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CHANGES, UM, FOR CONNECTIVITY.
AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T WANNA HINDER THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL PROCESS IF THAT IS THE ONLY ITEM THAT DEVIATES FROM THE UDC.
OTHERWISE, UM, WHAT IS OUTLINED IN THAT UDC WILL BE CAUGHT DURING THE STANDARD BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO TO REPEAT THE MOTION IS, UH, I, UH, PRESENTED PRESENT TO, TO RECOMMEND ACCEPTING 5.3 AS PRESENTED BY CITY STAFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A AMENDMENT FRIENDLY OR, OR AS A MOTION EITHER WAY.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT THERE WILL BE A CROSSWALK AT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE TO, UH, LEE MARTINEZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACROSS MAIN HIPPO.
AND THAT THERE WILL BE A SAFE CROSSING ACROSS 1660 AT THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE AND FIREFLY POINT DISCUSSED WITH CONCERNED ENTITIES PRIOR TO OPENING THAT PARKING LOT.
I HAVE, UH, FROM OPENING THAT PARKING LOT ACCESS FROM 1660.
IF THERE'S NO SAFE PEDESTRIAN, I DON'T WANT IT.
AND FOR TODAY, FOR THE UDC DISCUSSION, I I, TO MY WHAT I'M HEARING THEM SAY, WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR, WELL, FOR ONE AT MAIN HIPAA WAY THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR ON WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING US.
BUT THE OTHER ONE ON 1660 THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.
SO YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER IT AND TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT, UM, ISN'T LIKE YOU, YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT DOESN'T APPLY, I GUESS BASED OFF OF WHAT I'M HEARING THEM SAY.
BECAUSE SO BE, BUT I'M WITH YOU RICK.
I'M, I'M STILL VOTING NO MYSELF BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH THE SIDE THE SIDEWALKS IN AND OF THEMSELVES.
JUST FOR ME FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A HUGE SIDEWALK PLAN IN PLACE WHERE WE HAVE A REOCCURRING LINE ITEM ON OUR CIP TO
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DO SIDEWALKS.AND I CAN FORESEE THAT THIS WILL BE IN THE FUTURE CIP LIST TO DO SIDEWALKS HERE.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT BE A FUTURE LINE ITEM, LET'S ACCOUNT FOR IT NOW, NOT ONLY ON THE CURVE, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT ON LEE MAR THE ROAD BEHIND LEE MARTINEZ ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO FOR ME, I'M STILL VOTING NO, BUT THAT'S WHY.
OKAY, SO THE REASON I INCLUDED THE, UH, CROSSWALK ON MAIN HIPPO, FIRST WORD IN THAT LITTLE BLOCK IS POTENTIAL.
I WANNA REMOVE THAT FIRST WORD.
IT WILL BE, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
I'LL AMEND MY MOTION WITH THE POTENTIAL SIDEWALK TO READ.
BUT, UH, I MEAN UNFORTUNATELY I WOULD, WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ANYTHING BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE IS NOT, UM, INCLUSIVE OF THE SUP REQUEST.
SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE REQUEST IN THE SUP IS TO DEVIATE FROM THE CODE LINE ITEMS THAT WE'VE PRESENTED, UH, WHEREIN IT IS ALL HELD WITHIN, UH, THE PROPERTY AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.
AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF THROUGH THE FORMAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.
UM, AS I'LL SAY TO THE MIDBLOCK CROSSING, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S HEAVILY CONSIDERED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THAT.
BUT FURTHER ENGINEERING ANALYSIS NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TO BE SUPPORT THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WARRANTED.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE WOULD BE, AGAIN FOR MAINE HIPPO BE PROPOSING, UM, AND ADVOCATING FOR A SPEED, UM, SCHOOL ZONED, UM, WHICH WOULD INSTALL THE, UM, NE NECESSARY FLASHERS AND BEACONS AND SIGNAGE.
UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD ALSO BE APPLIED WITH THAT MIDBLOCK CROSSING.
BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD THEN NEED TO WORK WITH CITY, UM, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WITHIN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WHILE WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND PROPOSE IT AS PART OF OUR POTENTIAL PLAN, WE WOULD NEED TO THEN GET THAT, UM, ULTIMATELY REVIEWED AND APPROVED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS BEYOND THE PURVIEW OF THIS SUP AT THIS MOMENT.
CAN I GO BACK TO THE MOTION? UH, CAN I CLARIFY THE, YOU SAID DO WE WANTED TO REMOVE THE WORD POTENTIAL? WHERE IN THE, THE DIAGRAM THAT THAT DIAGRAM.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
NONE OF THIS AMENDMENTS IS WITHIN THE VIEW.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT 5.3 AS YES.
AND I, I WITHDRAW ANY AMENDMENT DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MORRIS TO ACCEPT ITEM 5.3 AS PRESENTED BY CITY STAFF AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION FIRST
HAVE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE? OKAY.
YEAH, I THINK WE BEAT THAT ONE TO DEATH.
ITEM 5.4, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
YOU WOULD'VE SEEN SOME OTHER EMAILS COMING OUT.
THIS IS THE FINALIZED DOCUMENT.
WE NEED TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY FINAL COMMENTS, CONCERNS, ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKET.
WE DID NOT PRINT THE ENTIRE THING OUT.
THAT WAS ALMOST A THOUSAND PAGES
UM, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO COST THE CITY A TON OF PRINTING, BUT WE DO HAVE ALL OF 'EM ONLINE AND THEY ARE IN THE PACKET, THE DIGITAL PACKET.
IT, AS FAR AS WE CAN READ, IT HAS EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN ALL OF OUR NUMEROUS MEETINGS.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL ON SIX FIVE AT 6:00 PM I KNOW ANGEL AND THE CITY SECRETARY HAD STARTED SENDING THINGS OUT 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT JOINT SESSION, UM, TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THIS.
UM, SO THIS IS REALLY JUST A LAST PLEA.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, LET ME KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE OVER AS RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, AGAIN IN OUR REVIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING FROM ANY OF THOSE LONGER MEETINGS THAT WE HAD GOING OVER EACH OF THOSE CHAPTERS.
UM, BUT IF YOU STILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, I WILL SAY ONE MAJOR POINT IN THIS IS, AND YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IS THAT, OH MY GOSH, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
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WE WEREN'T TAKING AWAY THOSE USES BECAUSE STATE LAW HAD SAID IF YOU'RE TAKING AWAY A USE OUT OF A DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT STICKIER.UM, WE DIDN'T TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE USES.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S RIGHTS TO USE THEIR PROPERTY EVEN AS THEY'RE USING IT TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS JUST OPENING UP THE DISTRICTS TO ALLOW FOR EVEN MORE USES BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THOSE FIRST CHAPTERS, SF ONE GOES TO A DIFFERENT DISTRICT, WHICH THEN ALLOWS FOR A MYRIAD OF USES.
SO WHEN WE'RE ZONING THINGS AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS LITTLE SECTION COULD BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THIS LITTLE SECTION COULD BE MULTIFAMILY AND THEN WE HAVE SOME TOWN HOMES INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO A PUD FOR THAT, THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO IT BY RIGHT AND JUST MEET THE CODE.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP FOSTER DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO TAKE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS TIME SO THAT WE DO GET A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MIX OF USES THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL APPLICATIONS.
IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO OPEN IT UP, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE.
UM, I THINK THE SIGN CODE DEFINITELY IS AN IMPROVEMENT.
IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
THE LANDSCAPING, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, THE LANDSCAPING SECTION AND I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND THEN REVIEWED SOME OF THE SITE PLANS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT HEAVY ON LANDSCAPING PREVIOUSLY.
IT STILL LOOKED LIKE A GREAT NUMBER.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DONE IS REDUCED IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S NOT EGREGIOUS.
I MEAN, YOU EVEN HEARD WITH THE ISD ITEM TONIGHT, IT'S A LOT OF TREES IN OUR CURRENT CODE.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS KIND OF GIVE THEM A MENU OF OPTIONS OF HEY, HERE'S A POINT SYSTEM AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO MEET THIS? LET THEM HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVITY.
LET THEM KIND OF PICK THEIR OWN ADVENTURE AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD.
UM, BUT ALSO HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN ACTUALLY TO KEEP TRACK OF AND GO, OKAY, WELL HERE'S OUR CHART AND HOW DID YOU MEET THIS? AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO JUSTIFY THAT.
UM, BUT TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HEARING AS MUCH OF, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW IT WAS THE INDUSTRIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.
IT WAS, IT'S ALLOWED BUT PLANT US A TREE FARM.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND THEN ALSO ENCOURAGE THE LOW WATER USAGE, KNOWING WHERE WE ARE WITH WATER RIGHT NOW.
UM, EVEN ENCOURAGING SOME DIFFERENT ENGINEERED ASPECTS OF THAT.
SO YOU COULD HAVE STORM WATER WATERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO ACTUALLY USE THAT RAIN GARDENS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT WITHIN THEIR SITE PLAN TO HELP SAVE WATER AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS POTABLE WATER BEING PLACED ON OUR LANDSCAPED UM, AREAS.
I WAS TRYING TO READ THROUGH THE, UH, THE ONLINE DIGITAL VERSION AND I WAS HAVING TROUBLE DETERMINING THE SIDE COMMENTS.
WERE THOSE INCORPORATED IN? SO THEY, WE DO HAVE SOME SIDE COMMENTS AND I THINK IT WAS ON CHAPTER TWO AND THREE.
WE JUST HAD A FEW I CAN SEND THAT OUT AGAIN 'CAUSE I WAS HAVING THE SAME ISSUE AND MOVING THEM OVER.
SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT SMALLER WHEN TO FIT.
UM, I CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT OVER AGAIN.
I JUST COULDN'T, COULDN'T TELL IF THE COMMENTS HAD BEEN INCORPORATED OR IF THEY WERE JUST COMMENTS.
THEY WERE JUST STILL COMMENTS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM WERE COMMENTS OF LIKE, WELL I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO WOULD ENFORCE THIS ON LIKE THE TREE REMOVAL.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE THAT STUCK OUT TO ME.
AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMENTS.
UM, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE WERE GETTING WAS BASED ON CELL TOWERS AND WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHANGE THIS.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, BUT WE DON'T REALLY WANT ALL THE CELL TOWERS.
AND SO THAT WAS JUST UM, SOMETHING, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT OUT IN THE MORNING.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT I WAS LIKE, WAIT, THE COMMENTS? BUT THE COMMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN INCORPORATED INTO IT.
IT WAS JUST HERE WERE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE GOT ON IT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ENOUGH TO REALLY WARRANT.
UM, SOME OF THEM WERE JUST MORE OF A QUESTION OF COURSE.
AND THEN A FEW OF THEM I WAS LIKE, I'M, I'M SATISFIED WITH WHERE WE ARE ON THE CELL TOWER.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THE NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE HAD A CELL TOWER, UM, USER WHO HAD QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I I JUST COULDN'T TELL WHAT THE CONTENT OF, OF THE, THEY WERE NOT INCORPORATED.
UM, I THINK THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE COR INCORPORATED, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE WERE ANYTHING THAT WE GOT BEFORE THAT CUTOFF.
'CAUSE THIS HAS AGAIN BEEN ONLINE SINCE DECEMBER, UM, OF THE KIND OF CUTOFF AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.
AND THEN OF COURSE LEGAL'S COMMENTS HAD BEEN INCORPORATED 'CAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH AND THEY DID A SCRUB OF THAT.
SO THERE WERE SOME, UM, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT CAME BACK ON SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CHAPTER NINE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO WE DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS LIKE THAT OF, OH IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MISSING AN AND OR SOMETHING.
AND OF COURSE YOUR COMMENTS HE HAD SENT OVER, UM, ORIGINALLY WERE ALL INCORPORATED AND SENT.
UM, BUT THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, I DON'T BELIEVE 'CAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T GET ANY AND THEY WEREN'T, UM, THEY WEREN'T SOMETHING, I MEAN I, I GAVE THEM TO YOU.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CONDITION OF LIKE, WELL LET, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE THAT IN THE SALT TOWER.
WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, UM, WHEN WE GET TO THAT MEETING TO MAKE THAT FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS, I NEED THEM.
UM, LEMME BRING UP A CALENDAR.
I NEED THOSE PREFERABLY BY MAY 23RD.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANYTHING FINAL, IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING FINAL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THOSE AS A RECOMMENDATION
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TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS DOCKET.SO THAT IS A CHANGE TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON FIVE FOUR WHERE IT SAYS STAFF REVIEW ITEM IS HEADED TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 15TH.
SO WE WILL STILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 15TH, JUST LIKE WE'RE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A PACKED HOUSE TONIGHT.
UM, BUT WE STILL WANT IT, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING ON SIX FIVE FOR THIS JOINT MEETING BECAUSE OF STATE LEGISLATURE CHANGES.
SO EVERYBODY WILL STILL BE HAVING, UM, ACTUALLY THE MAY 15TH, WE WILL JUST CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS A HOLDOVER 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T GET A SPECIAL CALLED.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT JUST STATUTORILY TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE COMPLIED WITH EVERY SINGLE THING.
UM, THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO ADOPT THIS AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE COME BACK AND QUESTION HOW IT WAS ADOPTED.
UM, SO CERTAINLY THAT'S EVEN WHY WE HAD THIS ONLINE FOR SO LONG.
'CAUSE WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE CLEARLY NOT BRINGING THIS FORWARD DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
LIKE THAT'S NOT GONNA BE MM-HMM
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, CERTAINLY STAFF IS STILL IN SUPPORT OF THE DOCUMENT.
UM, I THINK THIS COMMISSION AND STAFF HAS PUT IN A LOT OF WORK ON THIS ONE, UM, TO TRY TO GET IT TO REALLY OPEN UP BUT ALSO JUST MAKE SENSE UM, FOR WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR HUDU.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH WHERE STATE LAW IS THAT WE STILL CAN'T REQUEST SOME THINGS, UM, AS MUCH AS WE ALL WANT TO.
SO WE'RE CERTAINLY STILL CONSTRAINED WITH THAT.
BUT UM, JUST TRYING TO DO THIS LAST LITTLE PUSH SO WE CAN START TO GET THIS OVER THE HUMP AND GET THAT ADOPTED.
BUT LET US KNOW BY MAY 23RD IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS SO WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND YOU WILL SEE THAT AGENDA COME OUT BECAUSE I KNOW ANGEL'S WORKING ON IT.
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
LUCKILY DURING THOSE WORK SESSIONS WE'RE ALWAYS UPSTAIRS AND EXEC.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD BE AGAIN.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THAT ONE HOUR PRIOR TO UM, COUNSEL.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT? NO.
WE JUST NEED TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN JUST IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO UM, SUBMIT OVER, IF THERE'S ANY FINAL QUESTIONS THAT'LL GO INTO THAT RECOMMENDATION ON THAT JOINT MEETING.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 5.4 REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AT 8:37 PM SEEING NO ONE AND HEARING NO ONE TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL CLOSE IT AT 8:37 PM AM.
ITEM SIX DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECT REPORT.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH FOR YOU GUYS THIS TIME, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ALIGN A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON COUNCIL.
SO I REALLY ONLY HAVE THE ITEMS FOR YOU AFTER WE'VE GONE TO COUNCIL.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING GO TO COUNCIL 'CAUSE EVERYTHING HAS JUST BEEN P AND Z APPROVAL LATELY.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY OTHER THAN THE UDC ITEM.
AND YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THOSE UPDATES, UM, AND AGENDA'S COMING OUT 'CAUSE LAURA, THE CITY SECRETARY IS HELPING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU AT THIS POINT.
CAN YOU REMIND US OUR KIND OF OUR UPCOMING SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS? OH, I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
UM, WE STILL HAVE A MEETING ON FIVE 13 NEXT TUESDAY.
I'M PRETTY SURE BECAUSE SPECIAL THE RUNOFFS WON'T HAPPEN YET.
IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN LOCATION, IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT'S THE TOPIC? FIVE 30, TOPIC 13.
UM, IT'D BE SIX FOR ANY OF THE SPECIAL CALLS.
IT'S, YEAH, WATER'S THE LAST THING WE HAVEN'T COVERED AND NORMALLY WE GO BACK TO REGULAR SCHEDULE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE ON MAY 20TH AND THAT'S THE FINAL.
THAT'S GOOD FULL CIP FOR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON ALL OF THE OTHER MEETINGS.
UM, THAT ONE, IF WE CAN START EARLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO, I'LL HAVE ANGEL SENT OUT A HEY IS IT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF WE CAN START EARLY, WHICH MAY 20TH, I THINK WE'RE STILL IN THIS THAT GOOD SPACE WHERE WE CAN STILL BE IN HERE AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE UP IN EXEC OR SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF WE START EARLY WE WILL BE LIKE IF WE START AT FIVE LIKE WE DID FOR THE STREETS THING THAT WE WERE HERE I THINK TILL 11, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT MAIN CIP THING WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
IF WE CAN START EARLIER, OF COURSE WE WILL BE UM, HAVING DINNER AND REFRESHMENTS HERE FOR YOU SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY YEAH.
NOT THE ONLY REASON WE WANNA START EARLY, BUT UM, CERTAINLY I DON'T WANNA HAVE YOU ALL PUT OUT IF YOU'RE HAVING TO UM, COME HERE EARLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE GO BACK TO
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THOSE 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT JUST GETS BUSY DURING BUDGET SEASON.
WE WANT TO TRY TO LIMIT THOSE AS MUCH PUBLIC.
YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIME UP UNTIL JUNE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL
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AND I BELIEVE OUR P AND Z ON JUNE IS JUNE 3RD.I WANNA SAY IT'S THAT FIRST TUESDAY AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCIL ON SIX FIVE.
UM, RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SEEING A LOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE SIX THREE SO THAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY SIMPLE MEETING.
UM, BUT SO FOR THIS MONTH WE HAVE A FIVE 13, WE HAVE A FIVE 20.
UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND OUT THE REQUEST.
THE FIVE 13 WOULD JUST BE AT THAT NORMAL SIX O'CLOCK TIME, UM, FIVE 20.
IF WE CAN START EARLY WE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME SCHEDULING, UM, CONCERNS JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES HAVE A JOB TOO.
SO WE WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY PUT THAT IN WRITING AND IF YOU DO WANT RICK, THE, IF YOU DO WANT THAT CLARIFICATION ON THOSE COMMENTS, I CAN GET THOSE.
I CAN SEND THOSE OUT AND JUST SAY, HEY, JUST FY THESE WERE NOT, UM, INCORPORATED.
THE COMMENTS THOUGH WAS KIND OF SPARK A OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WE, WE DID LOOK AT THIS OR WE DID DO, YEAH.
REGARDING THE UH, JD UH, SPECIAL PERMIT AND THE ILA, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT NOW OR YOU CAN JUST SEND ME LINKS OR SOMETHING.
UM, I WILL GIVE YOU LINKS BECAUSE I KNOW LAURA HAS THE OFFICIAL OFFICIAL VERSION BUT I DO HAVE IT BROUGHT UP SO WE CAN STAY AFTER.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH ALL OF US? YEAH, CERTAINLY WHEN I GET THE OFFICIAL, 'CAUSE I HAVE AN UNSIGNED VERSION SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO SEND OUT TO YOU.
BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW BACK UP AND GO HEY, THIS IS WHERE IT IS AND THIS IS HOW IT IS.
UM, THIS IS HOW WE'RE READING IT BECAUSE WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS WHERE WE DECIDE ESSENTIALLY THE DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT ARE GONNA BE DEVIATED FROM FROM THE UDC.
UM, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH AND ESSENTIALLY THEIR LIST THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS WHAT WE'VE ALL AGREED WHAT STAFF AND THE ISD HAVE AGREED TO BASED ON OUR ILA OF WE HAVE TO AGREE TO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DEVIATE FROM.
AND PART OF MY REASON FOR THAT IS, ONE, JUST MY OWN CLARIFICATION AND BEING ON P AND Z, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE COUNCIL WILL BE PREPARED WITH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GOT A THOUSAND PAGE PACKET AND THIS COMES BEFORE THEM, MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC ILA AGREEMENT OR DEVIATION OR ACCEPTANCE THAT APPLIES TO THAT SPECIFIC YEAH.
'CAUSE THE ONLY DEVIATIONS ARE THE UDC DEVIATIONS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO AS PER THAT ILA.
SO GOING BACK TO THE MEETING ON MAY 20TH.
I KNOW I'M THE ONE WHO YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE IN ATTENDANCE.
WELL IT'S, IT SHOULD BE THERE.
YOUR IT'S MY BIRTHDAY AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE NOWHERE ELSE THEN WITH Y'ALL.
I'M NOT TAKING MY BIRTHDAY OFF OF MY JOB, BUT I COULD TRY TO NOT HAVE TO WORK THE FULL DAY ON MY BIRTHDAY IF THAT MEANS THAT WE START OUR MEETING EARLY.
SO FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO CAN COME EARLY, LIKE HOW EARLY IS EARLY THAT Y'ALL ARE ABLE TO COME FIVE O'CLOCK EARLY? FIVE O'CLOCK IS THE EARLIEST THAT YOU CAN BE HERE BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR THE LAST TIME, SO EARLIER I THINK STAFF CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
I WISH I HAD THAT FLEXIBILITY.
I'M LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? I SECOND THE MOTION 'CAUSE I'LL BE HERE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, I WILL HAVE MAKE SURE THAT MATT, UM, AND WE CAN SIT ON AN EMAIL AND JUST KIND OF POLL WITH, UM, AND JUST SEE HEY, HOW EARLY, BECAUSE I, I DON'T WANT, I KNOW FOR MY SCHEDULE, OBVIOUSLY I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN THAN THE, UM, CITY ENGINEER, BUT I DON'T WANNA PROMISE HIS TIME EITHER.
SO LET ME SEE HOW EARLY HE CAN OKAY.
BUT IF WE CAN MEET EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO UM, SO SHE WANTS, SHE WANTS TO MEET AT THREE, JOIN AT THREE 30.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE THAT OPTION STRAIGHT.
WOULD WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO RECEIVE THE PACKET ON FRIDAY AND MAKE COMMENTS AND SEND THEM BACK SO AT LEAST WE HAVE YOUR INPUT? NO, I, I DON'T WANNA MISS THE CONVERSATION.
IT JUST COINCIDENTALLY HAPPENS TO FOLLOW MY BIRTHDAY.
UM, SO YEAH, I WANNA BE HERE TO BE, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT COULD BE A LONG MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE NEEDING TO COME UP WITH HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR IT.
SO BECAUSE IT'S THE MONEY CONVERSATION, I CAN SEE THAT GOING LONGER.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING THAT EARLIER WE START THE BETTER IF, IF WE CAN ALL COME EARLIER.
SO ONLY IF WE HAVE CAKE FOR HER BIRTHDAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE AND WHAT'S YOUR CAKE? YEAH, BUT I, WHAT'S MY PREFERENCE OF CAKE? LET ME, CAKE CUR CAKE.
WHAT? GERMAN CHOCOLATE IS AMAZING TONY.
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THAT'S OKAY.
I REALLY DON'T CARE IF A CAKE.
SO YOU'LL SEND US AN EMAIL, ASHLEY, WITH, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT MATT COME, COME FROM ANGEL THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE IF WE'RE NOT IN HERE, THAT WE HAVE A ROOM AVAILABLE.
I'M NOT GONNA HAVE YOU GUYS SHOW UP AND OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU.
IT MIGHT JUST BE IN ONE FELL SWOOP KIND OF.
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JOHN WILL BE IN CHARGE ON THE 13TH 'CAUSE I HAVE, UM, KIDS IN SOCCER.UM, AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A PARENT BAND, UM, PERFORMANCE FOR MY, MY MIDDLE, FOR HER FIRST HIGH SCHOOL PERFORMANCE.
IF I HEAR NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING.