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DOWN? I CAN WANDER.DO YOU WANNA OPEN THE MEETING? AND THEN DO
[Planning and Zoning on June 03, 2025]
YOU WANNA WANDER REALLY QUICK AND JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DOWN THERE? OKAY.IT IS 7 0 2 AND WE WILL OPEN THIS MEETING OF THE CITY OF PDO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD, 2025.
AND WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT COMMISSIONER STEWART.
IS ONE DOOR OPEN? I'LL GO CHECK.
BUT IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND IT.
I WILL WAIT TILL THEY GET BACK.
SO THAT WE WILL HAVE, HON IF YOU'RE SEEING MY EMAIL, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.
'CAUSE I'M GOING TO SEND YOU THIS.
I AM JUST GONNA SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU.
WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE, BUT EVERYBODY'S GONNA SEE BUILDING AND STANDARDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
AND I'M JUST SENDING IT TO EVERYBODY.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GET A LANCE HERE TONIGHT TOO.
WHAT? I THOUGHT LANCE WAS GONNA BE HERE WITH YOU FROM KIMLEY.
IS THAT WE WERE ALSO GONNA GET LANCE FROM KIMLEY.
DID Y'ALL SEE THAT MATT ALISTAIR'S IS HIRING? THEY'RE TRYING TO FINALLY GET DONE.
I TALKED TO THE MANAGER IN GEORGETOWN ON SUNDAY OR LAST WEDNESDAY.
THEY HAD A THING IN FACE ON FACEBOOK ABOUT IT.
OH, NOBODY THERE? UM, AND SHE MAY NOT BE DOWN.
SHE, I DIDN'T SEE THE RSVP LIST, BUT SHE MAY NOT BE HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE HER SON WAS COMING ON LEAVE.
SO POTENTIALLY WE'LL COUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER STEWART AS ABSENT TONIGHT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? WE DO NOT.
SO WE WILL OPEN AND CLOSE IT AT 7:05 PM ITEM NUMBER 4.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING HELD ON MAY 6TH, 2025.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FURTHER MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WETZ, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, WE WILL VOTE.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO ITEM 5.1.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 2059 LIMMER LOOP TO ALLOW AN OFFICE PROFESSIONAL AS THE MAIN USE, PARDON ME IN THE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD.
ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
UM, THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU IS JUST UNDER FIVE ACRES.
IT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER LOOP AND COUNTY ROAD 1 0 8.
UM, AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ALSO, UM, IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS IT ALSO BEING THEN LABELED AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
SO THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, YOU KINDA SEE THERE'S ETJ OR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION TO THE NORTH WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, REALLY IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE IN LIEU OF ANNEXATIONS THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING.
EAST IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR B TWO, WHICH IS OUR LARGER COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
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RIGHT OF WAY, BUT ALSO THEN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THAT GATEWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT WEST IS ALSO ETJ WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT GATEWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.SO WITH THE PROPERTY BEING ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CURRENTLY, THAT USUALLY ALLOWS FOR MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING, ASSEMBLY, WAREHOUSE, THINGS LIKE THAT DO THAT REALLY DON'T GENERATE ANY NUISANCES, UM, AND OPERATE WITH INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, AND BECAUSE THE FLU ALSO DESIGNATES AS THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, UM, THAT'S REALLY FOR BUSINESS CENTERS WITH EASY ACCESS TO THOSE MAJOR ROADWAYS, WHICH OF COURSE YOU HAVE BEING AT LIME AT ONE 30.
UM, I WILL POINT OUT ONE THING THAT THE PRIMARY USE IS FOR THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER BECAUSE THE UDC IS OLDER THAN OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ACTUALLY OPENED THOSE AREAS FOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS TO HAVE SOME LIGHT MANUFACTURING, SOME OFFICE PARKS AND A SUPPORTIVE RETAIL.
SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT IS THE ZONING NOW AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING IT IS IN THE FUTURE.
SO RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE TWO BUILDINGS.
UM, AND ONE OF THEM WILL BE FOR MATERIAL STORAGE AND THE OTHER IS MAINTENANCE OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT.
AND SO THE REASON THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS SUP IS THAT PROFESSIONAL OFFICES AS A PRIMARY USE ARE CONSIDERED ONLY SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMITS BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE DOING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WE REALLY WANTED IT TO BE MORE OF THAT EMPLOYMENT BASE.
WE'VE OBVIOUSLY OPENED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS.
UM, BECAUSE REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS CODE RIGHT NOW IS THAT OFFICE IS REALLY JUST PERMITTED, UM, AS AN ACCESSORY TO THAT MAIN USE.
AND THIS OFFICE IS GONNA BE A LITTLE LARGER.
AND THERE IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO FOR 20% OF THE GROSS AREA.
THIS IS JUST OVER THAT, BUT IT STILL FITS IN WITH THE AREA AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UM, IN OUR FUTURE.
UM, SO HERE YOU GO WITH OUR MAPS.
UM, AND THOSE ARE ALSO IN YOUR PACKET.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S PURPLE ALL AROUND IT.
UM, WHICH IS THAT EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THAT IS OUR EXISTING ZONING MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN WE HAVE THAT LITTLE AREA OF RED, WHICH IS THAT B TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ALSO STILL ALLOWED IN THAT EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD THERE.
UH, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE SURVEY.
YOU CAN SEE A NICE LITTLE BOX AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LIMMER AND 1 0 8.
UM, WE NOTIFIED SEVEN PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT 600 FOOT DISTANCE.
UM, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A RESPONSE IN FAVOR, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IN THERE.
UM, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES HELP FURTHER WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR IN HOW TO SOAR, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS AT THIS POINT.
SO WITH THAT, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND THEN STAFF CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:10 PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.
I CLOSE THAT AT 7:10 PM ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING? UH, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK JOR JORDAN FOSTER FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A LETTER THAT PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY FOR ME.
THE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDATION DIDN'T REALLY CLARIFY WHY WE WERE DOING THE SUP THIS OH, THIS REQUIREMENT FOR THE 20%.
THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE DOING AN S-O-S-U-P.
I THOUGHT WE INCLUDED THE UDC SECTION, BUT I COULD BE DONE.
YEAH, YOU DID, BUT IT YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT.
WHY ARE THEY, WHY ARE THEY DOING AN SP? OKAY.
IT WAS JUST, OH, IT'S, THANK YOU FOR THE LETTER DOWN.
I WAS LIKE, USUALLY JOHN'S SUPER THOROUGH, BUT I MEAN, IT IS HELPFUL TO ALWAYS HAVE THAT LOI THAT WE REQUEST.
SOMETIMES THE APPLICANTS ARE VERY THOROUGH AS IS THIS ONE SOMETIMES NOT SO MUCH.
YEAH, THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CODE.
HE'S SAYING BECAUSE OF THE CODE, WE'RE DOING THIS.
WE JUST GIVE OUT THE YEAH, THEY GIVE THE WHY.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ROADS.
UM, WHERE'S THE ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY GONNA BE? IT GONNA BE OFF OF LEMAR LOOP OR IS IT GONNA BE OFF OF THE, UH, SIDE STREET? THERE'S, UH, ONE OFF OF BOTH.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT LEMUR LOOP.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING IN A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF LEMER ROAD NEXT TO, YOU KNOW HOW THEY DO A LOT OF PLACES, THEY'LL HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO YOUR PROPERTY.
THE PLANS RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT, UH,
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I KNOW THERE'S OBVIOUSLY PLANS TO EXPAND LEER LOOP RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF WORKING AROUND.YEAH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SUPER HIGH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, NOT YET.
WELL, WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE THE TRAFFIC EXPECTATIONS, THE TYPE OF VEHICLE TONNAGE, FREQUENCY? YEAH.
SO, AND I'VE GOT A LITTLE SIDE PLAN IF I'M GONNA SEE IT, BUT BASICALLY UP FRONT IS OUR OFFICE BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S ONE THAT'S, IT'S JUST SHY OF 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THAT'LL PROBABLY BE HOUSING.
IT'S GONNA START OFF PROBABLY AROUND 15 PEOPLE OR SO.
AND, YOU KNOW, COULD GROW TO 40, UH, AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN THE BACK IS OUR SHOP.
SO WE'RE A, A ROAD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, HEAVY STEEL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
SO BESIDES OFFICE, THIS WILL ALL BE FENCED OFF AND THEN THIS WILL KIND OF BE LIKE, UH, YARD STORAGE EQUIPMENT, UH, SHOP TO WORK ON THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
SO LIKE OUR MAIN, UH, HAUL TRUCK AND STUFF THAT'S HAULING THE, YOU KNOW, BIG EXCAVATORS AND LOADERS AND EVERYTHING.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME IN OFF OF 1 0 8 TO GET IT BACK HERE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME OFF LI LOOP.
SO WHAT IS THE DISTANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TO THIS ENTRANCE FROM THE INTERSECTION AND, AND THEN THE ENTRANCE AT LEAST 200? WELL, I THEN KEEP IN MIND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SITE PLAN'S APPROVED YET.
SO ALL THAT WAS, IT'S, IT'S NOT, YEAH.
SO IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE FULL REVIEW FOR STAFF.
IT'S NOT, YEAH, I DON'T, IF YOU WERE FINISHED TELLING ME I WAS GONNA ADD ON.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE WORRYING ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE SUP.
IT'S JUST THE USE ON, IF WE THINK THAT THE 20% SHOULD BE GRANTED BECAUSE THEY WANT A LARGER OFFICE THAN WOULD TYPICALLY BE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NOW MM-HMM
SO WE DON'T WANT TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH WHAT THAT INTERSECTION'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, SO THAT'S, TONY WAS FINISHED.
I WAS GONNA ADD ON KIND OF THE SAME THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING ALL THAT, THAT INTERSECTION MM-HMM
AND I'LL MAKE CAN ANSWER BETTER THAN I WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STARTING THAT AT 27 POTENTIALLY.
SO WE GOT, AND, AND, AND THERE'S ALL THE MODIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, ON
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING OF THAT IS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S MORE, IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS A REQUEST OR REQUIREMENT IS A, A HEADS UP.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THIS GOING ON AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MY QUESTION NOT TO BE ANSWERED NOW IS, IS IS THE NUMBER OF AXLES, THE TONNAGE, THE FREQUENCY, THE ENTRANCES, HOW THAT DISTANCE IS MM-HMM
AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO BE ANSWERED NOW.
THAT'S MY CONCERN IS, IS WHAT THAT, WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE MM-HMM
AND HOW ARE WE GONNA KIND OF COORDINATE THAT ACTIVITY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER MM-HMM
AND THEN THE LI LOOP INSPECTION AND EXPANSION AND THEN THE INNOVATION OR CR 1 0 8 LI LOOP INTERSECTION, WHICH IS STUNNING, BUT IT'S OUT OF, IT'S NOT OUT OF DESIGN YET.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD.
WELL, WELL THE GOOD THING IS, IS THERE'RE GONNA BE A, THERE'S GONNA BE A LIGHT AT INNOVATION IN LOO MM-HMM
AND HE JUST SAID THAT THE BIG TRUCKS OR HIS HEAVY EQUIPMENT'S GONNA COME IN OFF OF THE, UH, COUNTY, WHAT IS IT? COUNTY ROAD ONE ONE INNOVATION AND NOT OFF OF LANE MARY LOOP.
THE SIGNALS, I THINK THE CITY ALREADY BID OUT THE SIGNAL PROJECT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO IF NOT SUPPOSED TO START ON IT THIS SUMMER.
I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO START THIS SUMMER ON IT, SO IT'S NOT 27TH.
IT'S THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE EXPANSION OF LI LOOP WOULD NOT BE THIS YEAR.
I JUST MEANT THE INTERSECTION.
THE LIGHT, I BELIEVE IS GOING IN THIS SUMMER 26TH.
HOW SOON ARE YOU LOOKING TO, TO BUILD, START HOPEFULLY START END OF, YOU KNOW, AUGUST TIMEFRAME, START CONSTRUCTION AND THEN FIGURE IN EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS.
SO I'VE GOT TWO THINGS, AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT, UH, NECESSARILY PERTINENT TO THE SEP.
FIRST IS THE DRIVEWAY ALIGNMENT KIND OF FOR THE SITE PLAN MM-HMM
UM, THERE IS A DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, LEADING INTO THE BUSINESS PARK THERE INTO ALL THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK THE DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE BEST, THE BEST PRACTICE WOULD PROBABLY BE TO ALIGN THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS.
UH, I'M THINKING MAINLY FOR DELIVERIES AND SO ON.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF DELIVERY TRUCKS TRYING TO MAKE SOME WEIRD LEFTS AND RIGHTS ON LIMMER.
SO I DON'T THINK WE GO THAT FAR EAST.
I THINK OUR PROPERTY LINE STOPS.
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START OF THAT DRIVEWAY.WE'RE JUST, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT, THAT, UH, CULVERT THERE.
OR THAT CREEK THERE WE'RE RIGHT.
WE STOPPED KIND OF RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THAT.
UH, THE SECOND ONE IS, UH, WITH ALL OF YOUR, I'M GONNA SAY CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IN, UH, FENCED IN AREA AND EVERYTHING, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF SCREENING FROM 1 0 8 SO THAT AS PEOPLE ARE DRIVING BY TO OTHER BUSINESSES, ET CETERA, THEY DON'T SEE A CONSTRUCTION YARD? MM-HMM
LOOKING THING IS, IS THERE A PLAN FOR SCREENING OF THAT FROM 1 0 8? I KNOW THE OFFICE BUILDING'S GONNA SCREEN IT FROM LIMMER.
BUT I'M WONDERING ABOUT 1 0 8.
THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS, IS, UH, SIX OR EIGHT FOOT TALL WR IRON FENCE.
AROUND, SO, SO IT WOULD BE A, A VISIBLE SOME OF IT.
SOME OF IT'LL GET PARKED ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SHOP AS WELL.
BUT THERE MAY BE SOME STUFF RIGHT ALONG.
ONE, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, IS IT? IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
BUT, BUT THIS, BUT THIS AESTHETICS IS AN SUP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, JUST SAY MM-HMM
AND I'VE GOT, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA SEE MORE OF GUT LITTLE RENDERINGS AND ELEVATIONS.
SOME WE DON'T LIKE, WE DON'T LIKE IT.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN TOWARDS ROUND ROCK, YOU CAN SEE AN EQUIPMENT YARD WITH ALL THE RENTALS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, SO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW SCREEN THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BY LOCATION OF THE, UH, THE, THE BUILDING, THE 6,000 FOOT, UH, 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, MAYBE BY MOVING THAT CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE OR SOME, OR SOME SORT OF SCREENING.
AND I DIDN'T PRINT OUR LANDSCAPING PLANS, BUT THERE'S LIKE A TON OF TREES ALONG.
YES, I WAS, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
HOW MANY TREES? THAT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED IT, BUT THAT'S ODD.
THERE'S LIKE MORE TREES THAN I THOUGHT WAS WHAT NECESSARY.
I WANNA SAY IT'S LIKE 50 50 SOMETHING.
TREES, YOUR EQUIPMENT AND PERSONNEL, LIKE THAT SHADE WEST SIDE.
SO YEAH, MAINLY THAT, THOSE WERE MY TWO CONCERNS IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE ALIGN THE DRIVEWAY? SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO BECAUSE OF THE CREEK.
AND THEN SCREENING FROM 1 0 8 WOULD BE MY OTHER.
HEY, KEEP THIS IN MIND TYPE THING.
ARE YOU JUST WANTING THE, THE, YOU'RE NOT WANTING WHERE THE OFFICE IS GOING TO BE SCREENED.
YOU WANT JUST WHERE THE EQUIPMENT'S GONNA BE LEFT? WELL, THERE, YEAH.
THERE'S A FENCE BETWEEN THE OFFICE AND THE CONSTRUCTION YARD, I'LL CALL IT.
BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING BETWEEN 1 0 8 AND THE CONSTRUCTION YARD.
AND I WANTED MAKE SURE THE FENCE, THE FENCE IS ALONG 1 0 8 TO THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
BROAD IRON FENCE BESIDES THE OFFICE IS GONNA BE AND TREES.
THAT'S ALL I WAS LOOKING AT IS OKAY.
AS, AS FAR AS AN OFFICE BUILDING.
WITH THE NEW LAWS COMING IN, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO STOP THEM.
COMMISSIONER MORRIS, I HEARD YOU FIRST AS CLOSE AS THE SOUND.
COMMISSIONER RO UH, MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 5.1 AS PRESENTED.
AND COMMISSIONER MORRIS SECONDED THAT.
WE CHOSE Y'ALL SEVEN YEARS AGO.
I WANNA KNOW THE STORY AND THANK, THANK YOU.
IT'S NOT, NOT A GOOD STORY EITHER.
WE'RE GONNA GET HU WASTEWATER FOR JONAH WATER.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORTS.
SO THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO GIVE YOU, UM, IS GOING TO BE, DON'T FORGET, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL FOR THE CIP.
WE WERE TRYING TO SLOW THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A RUNOFF.
WE DIDN'T WANNA SHOVE EVERYTHING IN ALL AT ONCE ON YOU.
UM, SO WE HAVE THAT SPECIAL CALLED, IT WILL BE A
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LONGER MEETING.ANGEL'S GONNA BE SENDING OUT MORE INFORMATION.
THAT WAS THE DATE EVERYBODY AGREED TO WHEN WE STARTED TO RESCHEDULE TO AVOID THE UM, THE VOTING AND THE REST.
WE GOT A, UH, WHAT IS THE MEETING MESSAGE YESTERDAY? ABOUT A MEETING DAY AFTER TOMORROW? YEP.
THAT WAS THE, THAT'S THE JOINT MEETING.
IF YOU COULD, UM, FOR THE UDC RECOMMENDATION THAT I WARNED YOU ABOUT AT THE LAST PNC MEETING.
BUT THAT'S AT 6:00 PM AND THEN YOU'RE FREE TO GO, IT'S AT SIX, RIGHT? AND IT, IT IS THE WORK SESSION.
IT'S JUST, IT IS A WORK SESSION WITH COUNSEL 'CAUSE WE NEEDED THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, ARE WE GONNA MEET UP HERE OR ARE WE GONNA MEET DOWN THERE? HERE? TYPICALLY, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT BECAUSE WE MAY GET MOVED DOWNSTAIRS JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UM, 'CAUSE I THINK TO HAVE BOTH COUNCIL AND P AND Z, IT'S GONNA BE TWO CRAMPED IN HERE.
I CAN DOUBLE CHECK HOW MANY CHAIRS ARE HERE.
BUT THEN YOU INCLUDE STAFF AND WELL THEN STAFF.
AND THEN IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SHOW UP FOR PUBLIC NOTICE, WE DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE WE'RE PRECLUDING ANYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO, PLUS HALF OF THE BOARD IS GONNA BE DOWN THERE ANYWAY.
SO IT GIVES US EXTRA FIVE MINUTES, MAYBE MORE.
SO ON JUNE 10TH AT SEVEN, I'M THINKING JUNE 10TH, PROBABLY AT THREE OR FOUR.
THREE OR FOUR BECAUSE THAT'S THE REALLY LONG OVERVIEW THAT WE WANTED TO DO.
BUT ONCE WE REALIZE WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA END UP IN RU ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
WE JUST NEEDED TO PAUSE FOR A MINUTE.
SO WE PAUSED FOR A MINUTE AND THAT'S WHEN WE SENT IT OUT AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS ONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING INTO RUNOFF SEASON.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D BE STUCK UP HERE.
IN THE LARGER ROOM WHERE WE NEED ALL THE SCREENS AND THE REST OF IT FOR YOU.
SO WHAT, TALK ABOUT THE NEW LAWS.
UM, I AM STILL WAITING ON, UM, INFO FROM LEGAL ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO AFFECT US AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING SIGNED AND WHAT'S NOT BEING SIGNED.
BUT WE KNEW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE COMING ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN.
SO SOME OF IT'S GONNA BE THE SMALLER LOTS.
SOME OF IT, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE ON NON-CONFORMING USES WHERE IT'S GONNA BE HARDER TO, UM, REMOVE A NON-CONFORMING USE.
UM, ONCE IT'S ALSO, I ALSO HEARD WHERE THEY'RE PASSED, SUPPOSEDLY PASSING A LAW WHERE A CITY CANNOT PREVENT HOUSES OR FROM BEING BUILT IN COMMERCIAL POTENTIALLY.
BUT WE'VE GOT A GREAT LEGAL TEAM THAT'S GONNA GIVE US THE RUNDOWN ON EVERYTHING.
THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PASSED OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PASSED EXACTLY HOW WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO BE.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE FALLOUT JUST TO SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY PASSED AND HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT US.
AND ALSO WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT WAS, AND IT SAID, IT BASICALLY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE LESS SAY IN HOUSES BEING BUILT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
HOW, WHAT LESS SAY ABOUT HOUSES BEING BUILT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES APARTMENT BEING BUILT.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THE WAY I READ IT WAS THEY'RE GONNA PUT A LOT MORE RESTRAINTS ON CITY COUNCILS, WHICH WILL HAVE A, AN EFFECT ON EVERYTHING FROM WHAT I'M READING.
SO, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT LEGAL COMES DOWN WITH.
'CAUSE WE USUALLY GET THE 1 0 1 FROM THEM OF THIS IS WHAT JUST GOT PASSED.
'CAUSE SOME OF THE RULES ARE NOT FOUR CITIES OUR SIZE, THEY'RE FOR LARGER CITIES.
BUT YOU'RE LIKE, WELL THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST NAMED YOUR BIG FOUR THAT YOU CAN'T STAND I DOWN.
WE COULD HAVE GONE DOWN THE LINE.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME, LIKE EVEN WITH THE ANNEXATION LAWS, 50,000 PEOPLE ARE MORE AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
BUT IT WAS LIKE A CERTAIN SIZE CITY PLUS A CERTAIN SIZE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, WELL OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE BIG, THE BIG ONES, BUT UM, EVEN SO IT COULD END UP AFFECTING US.
SO WE JUST WANNA SEE WHAT LEGAL COMES OUT WITH IT.
'CAUSE YEAH, THIS UM, OUR LEGAL GROUP ACTUALLY DOES REALLY GOOD WITH LETTING US KNOW.
'CAUSE THEY LET ALL OF THEIR CITIES KNOW.
I'M JUST HOPING HE SIGNS OFF ON THE NEW PROPERTY TAX BILL.
$200,000 EXEMPTION ON HOMESTEADS.
WHAT FOR SENIORS? $200,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR SENIORS.
ISD IS ALREADY USING AS, AS LEVERAGE IS.
OUR HIGHEST D PROPERTY TAXES AREN'T GONNA AFFECT YOU.
PLEASE VOTE FOR THESE EXTRA DOLLARS.
WELL, MY QUESTION IS, EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT OUR CITY TAXES, WHY THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT SCHOOL TAXES, WHICH ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN CITY TAXES.
SO, OH, WE DO THREE AND A HALF TIMES.
UM, I, I ASSUME THERE'S STILL GONNA BE A FEW CHANGES THAT MATT IS DOING, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET AN EARLY LARGE FORMAT PRINT? I'LL CHECK WITH HIM AND I MEAN, JUST BEFORE, I JUST DON'T WANNA GET IT THE DAY OF.
IF I GET SOME TIME I'LL CHECK.
I YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS ON THAT ONE.
AND IF IT'S 99% COMPLETE AND OBVIOUSLY HE CAN CHANGE.
IT JUST HELPS ME UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE
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I'M SURE HE IS GONNA RED LINE.SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WERE, WHAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S REDLINING JUST BECAUSE I THINK HE STARTED FRESH BASED ON THE NOTES.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, WELL, WHERE HE HAS, IT'S JUST A LARGE FORMAT.
YEAH, WELL KIND OF LIKE WE DID YEAH.
COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT GREAT BIG WELL THE ONES THEY'VE BEEN DOING, CITY COUNCIL GETS SOME, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRINTED OUT SO NICE.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT CITY COUNCIL IF IT'S LIKE 11 BY 17, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING 'CAUSE I DON'T EVER SEE 'EM.
OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, I SEE WHEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME OF THESE SESSIONS THAT MIKE'S BEEN IN, HE'S GOT THESE LARGE SHEETS I DON'T REACH, BUT THEY'RE CIS AND THEY'RE 11 BY 17.
ANY SPECIAL REQUESTS? WHO'S GOING BEHIND YOUR, THEY'RE NICE.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S NOT MY TEAM, SO I KNOW.
WELL THEN, UH, I GUESS I'LL FINISH ASKING.
OKAY, YOU ALL, SO WE HAVE THE 20, THE 10TH, THE OKAY FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
RYAN LEE'S POSITION IS STILL VACANT.
MINE AND TONY'S POSITIONS END AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
I WILL NOT BE RENEWING BECAUSE I WILL BE MOVING TO GEORGETOWN IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
UH, TONY SAYS THAT HE DOES WANT TO STAY ON.
SO LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST TWO AND HAZEL IS THREE.
WELL, YOU'RE NOT UP FOR RENEWAL YET.
SO THEY'LL KEEP YOU FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
UH, SO YOU'LL NEED AT LEAST TWO MORE PEOPLE.
I THINK THEY'RE INTERVIEWING SOMEONE.
SO HAVE YOU HEARD NO, JUDE, THE COUNCIL OR COMMISSION? HE, HE INTERVIEWED ONE PERSON.
I INTERVIEWED, BUT I INTERVIEWED ONE FORTS AND ONE FOR P AND Z AND RIGHT.
AND, AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SELECTED, SAID THERE WERE NOT SO THEY WERE ALREADY CAN CANNED IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M JUST SAYING ON THURSDAY THERE'S AGENDA ITEM.
THEY COULD VOTE IN A NEW PLAIN P AND Z PERSON.
THEY COULD, BUT THEY SAID, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.
THEY, THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER, AFTER THE OH, THEY'RE WAITING FOR NEW.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ON OR NOT.
WELL THE OTHER REASON IS THEY WANT, THEY WANT NEW COUNSEL TO MAKE THE CHOICES, WHICH THAT'S THE REAL REASON IS SOMEWHAT UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO WE HAVE JUNE 10TH, YOU AND I DISCUSSED THIS RIGHT EARLIER,
SO WE HAVE JUNE 10TH AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS 20.
SEE WE'LL HAVE THURSDAY AND THEN JUNE 10TH.
AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO NORMAL SCHEDULE.
WE SHOULD BE BACK TO NORMAL SCHEDULE AFTER THAT.
I WAS ACTUALLY BEING FACETIOUS.
ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE CIP AND THE REST OF IT, THEN WE SHOULD BE BACK TO NORMAL SCHEDULE.
IF THERE'S NO ONE THAT CARES ABOUT IT, WE CAN ADJOURN AT AT SEVEN 30.