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THANK YOU PUTTING THAT OUT.[ (EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on June 9. 2025]
AND I CALL THIS HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING INTO ORDER.MAY I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR CLANCY.
GIDEON BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN HERE.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM.
MOVING TO 5.1 PRESENTATIONS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A PRESENTATION REGARDING AN INCENTIVE REQUEST FROM JIMMY PIERCE DESIGNS.
I BELIEVE, I THOUGHT I SAW HIM IN THERE EARLIER.
JIMMY PIERCE IS HERE TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL, UH, REGARDING HIS REQUEST FOR AN INCENTIVE FOR JIMMY PIERCE DESIGNS A LOCAL CUSTOM HAT SHOP HERE IN, UH, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
SO IN THAT FOLDER THERE, AS I'VE BEEN TOLD, MORE INFORMATION WAS NEEDED.
UM, MY THREE PROPOSALS THAT I SUBMITTED WHEN I KEPT GETTING ASKED TO ALTER THEM, UH, 12 MONTHS OF SALES TAX THAT I PAID THAT Y'ALL ASKED FOR, UH, MAY NO, JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, I DID NOT HAVE ANY EVENTS OUTSIDE OF IDAHO.
THEREFORE, THOSE TAXES ARE PAID CORRECTLY.
UM, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS HERE IN TOWN.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A COPY OF MY VARIANCE FROM THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE THAT PERTAINED TO MY PROPERTY.
UM, AND I MEAN, JUST TO GO OVER THE TIMELINE, UH, I THINK I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE FOR 14 OR 15 MONTHS NOW.
UM, IT TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO ACTUALLY GET ON A MEETING.
UM, AFTER THE FIRST ONE, WELL, ONCE I WAS TOLD IT WAS APPROVED, I WENT AHEAD AND DID THE EXPANSION ON THE SHOP, UH, AND SPENT THE MONEY DOING THAT OUTTA MY OWN POCKET, TAKING OUT A LOAN BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THE MONEY WAS COMING THROUGH.
UH, AFTER THAT IT WENT TO COUNCIL.
I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT WAS JUST A FORMALITY.
UM, AND TWO QUESTIONS WERE RAISED.
THREE ACTUALLY, BUT ONE OF THEM I COULDN'T FIND THE REFERENCE FOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PERTINENT, SO FIRST ONE WAS, UH, DWELLING LIVED WORK.
DWELLINGS WERE LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE OPERATED BY A MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD THAT LIVES IN THE HOU THE HOME.
UH, IT WAS CALLED TO SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION THAT THIS, YOU MEANT THAT I COULDN'T HIRE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T LIVE IN MY HOUSE.
UH, MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THAT'S WRONG.
THIS MEANS THAT I HAVE TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS THAT'S THERE AND I CAN HIRE OTHER PEOPLE TO COME WORK FOR ME.
OPERATOR IS NOT THE PERSON WORKING THE COUNTER.
IT'S THE MANAGER, THE THE PERSON THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE BUSINESS.
UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THAT I COULD NOT EXPAND MY SHOP.
THE REGULATION THAT TALKS ABOUT USING RESIDENTIAL SPACE FOR COMMERCIAL USE REFERS TO, I CAN'T DO MY BUSINESS WORK IN MY KITCHEN.
I CAN, HOWEVER, TAKE PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND REWORK IT AND TURN IT INTO MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UH, ANOTHER REGULATION HERE SAYS THAT THE LIVE WORK MAY OCCUPY NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE GROUND FLOOR AREA.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S LESS THAN HALF OF THE SPACE, I CAN EXPAND.
SECONDLY, WHEN I DID EXPAND, I DIDN'T USE ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE AS A GARAGE, DOESN'T COUNT AS RESIDENTIAL.
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THAT HAPPENED, THEN I WAS ASKED FOR ALL MY SALES TAX RETURNS AND Y'ALL DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY I WAS PAYING MY TAXES, WHICH ACCORDING TO THE STATE AS OF A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MAY NOT MATTER ANYWAYS.BUT, UM, NOW THERE'S 12 MONTHS THAT ARE PAID.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKED FOR.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF A OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENED UP TO THIS POINT.
UM, MOST OF MY BUSINESS COMES FROM OUTSIDE OF HUDU, AND IT'S PEOPLE COMING TO HUDU, SPENDING MONEY AND THEN LEAVING.
THEY ALSO GO GET SOMETHING TO EAT.
UM, AND IT, LIKE, I, I HAVE PEOPLE FLY IN FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO COME PICK UP HATS.
I HAVE GROUPS OF FIVE OR SIX GUYS, THEY COME DOWN FROM FORT WORTH OR HOUSTON, AND THEY, UH, MAKE A ROAD TRIP OUT OF IT, AND THEY GET THEIR HATS AND THEY GO EAT ALTOGETHER.
AND THEY, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST MY BUSINESS AND MY SALES TAX HERE.
UM, AND THE WHOLE POINT OF GETTING THE GRANT WAS TO USE IT TO EXPAND THE SHOP, WHICH I'M DID NOW IN DEBT FOR DOING.
UM, AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME TO TOWN AND DO LESS EVENTS OUTSIDE OF HURO.
MAKE MY SHOP MORE OF A DESTINATION FOR THAT.
I NEED SOME MORE EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE FASTER PRODUCTION.
UM, AND, AND IT'S TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT REPUTATION WHERE MORE PEOPLE COME TO TOWN, THEY COME, THEY SPEND MONEY, THEY LEAVE, AND THAT UPS YOUR SALES TAX WAY MORE THAN ANY OF YOUR HOUSING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO, UM, I GUESS I WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR Y'ALL TO ASK QUESTIONS AND SEE WHAT MORE INFORMATION WAS NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO, WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND, UM, TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS.
UM, LEGAL, CAN WE GET SOME ADVICE ON, HE SPOKE OF TWO THINGS THAT, THAT WE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T EXPAND HIS SHOP AND HE'S SAYING THAT HE COULD.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH, I THINK SOME PROOF OF SALES TAX OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
WELL, IT WAS, I KNOW WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT SOME THINGS, LIKE WE PUSHED IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL WANTED SOME MORE INFORMATION.
AND SO WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND SO I WAS JUST HOPING THAT LEGAL CAN, UM, GIVE US SOME ADVICE ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT REASONING FOR SOME OF THAT.
I WAS EVEN TOLD BY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OTHER EDCS THAT ARE FRIENDS OF MINE, UM, THAT IT GOING TO COUNCIL AND THEN THEM KICKING IT BACK AND SAYING, BASICALLY SAYING NO, ASKING FOR MORE INFO MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ILLEGAL'S NOT WELL, WE GET OUR FUNDING FROM, UM, CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS, SAY THAT THEY APPROVE YOUR BUDGET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND THEN Y'ALL GET TO SPEND IT HOW YOU WANT.
AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE FROM COUNCIL.
5 0 1 0.073 A REQUIRES ALL EXPENDITURES OF THIS APPROVED BOARD TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND ANY PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IS ALSO REQUIRED UNDER 0.060.
WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANT AS A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO GET INCENTIVES HAS TO BE ALSO APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON, BY SEPARATE STATUTE.
SO, UM, THERE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING, UM, IMPROPER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL GIVING ITS OKAY.
UM, RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE DOING HAT MANUFACTURING MM-HMM
SO BEING A MANUFACTURING, UH, ORGANIZATION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE, UH, K KOMBUCHA, UM, COMPANY.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE, THE, UM, THE MANUFACTURING OF THE, THE DRINKS MM-HMM
FROM YEARS AGO THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THIS? YEAH.
IT'S, AND SO IT, IT WOULD BE MANUFACTURING AND RETAIL AND YEAH.
SAY IT'S A SIMILAR MANUFACTURING PROJECT.
SO IT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE, UH, UH, 5 0 1 AS A PROJECT, THE, UM, ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO WHETHER THE EXPANSION IS, IS LEGAL OR WHETHER THE HIRING OF, OF INDIVIDUALS OR LEGAL REALLY IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CONTROLS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR ORDINANCES.
AND SO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO INTERPRET THEM.
UM, DID YOU GET A BUILDING PERMIT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE YOUR EXPANSION? NOT THE EXPANSION.
I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT REQUIRED ONE.
I MOVED SOME PLUGS THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT.
ADDING NEW CIRCUITS WOULD HAVE, I DIDN'T DO THAT.
UH, I HAD BUILT A COUPLE OF WALLS, ADDED A DOOR, CUT A HOLE IN A WALL, LAID NEW FLOOR PAINTED.
UM, IT WAS NOTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE
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A PERMIT.SO, UM, HAVE YOU BEEN CONTACTED BY ANY, UH, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL REGARDING ANY CONCERNS? NO.
WITH YOUR CHANGE? UM, SO THE, UH, I MEAN, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATUTE ITSELF.
UH, I'M, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT THIS, UH, TODAY.
UH, BUT IT, IT APPEARS THAT THE, THE WORK WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CODE COMPLIANCE FOR PURPOSES OF THE APPROVAL.
AND WHAT ARE THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE FOLDER OVER THERE? IT'S ALL OF THE SAME ONES.
AND ALL OF YOUR, YOUR, YOU HAVE 12, THE 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF TAX REPORTING MM-HMM
AND LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SALES OUTSIDE THE CITY FROM JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANY BIG EVENTS OUTSIDE.
EVERYTHING WAS PEOPLE COMING TO ME TO GET HATS.
SUMMER'S A SLOW TIME FOR OUTDOOR EVENTS.
I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOUR SHOP, LIKE, DO THEY, THEY GENERALLY STAY OVERNIGHT.
DO THEY COME FOR THE DAY AND GO BACK? UH, IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAR THEY'RE TRAVELING.
I HAVE, I USUALLY GET ONE OR TWO A MONTH THAT ARE ACTUALLY PLAN A, A WEEKEND TRIP TO AUSTIN AND HU AND ROUND ROCK OR GEORGETOWN, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA AND COME GET THEIR HAT AT THAT TIME.
LIKE, THEY PLAN THAT TRIP AROUND.
THIS IS WHEN THEY'RE HAT'S READY AND THEY COME PICK IT UP AND THEN THEY GO TO, YOU KNOW, UH, JACK ALLEN'S OR THAT'S WHERE I TELL 'EM TO GO, OR THE UH, UH, CASA JCO OR, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A FEW PLACES THAT I RECOMMEND, SO MM-HMM
UM, BUT THEY'LL COME IN, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD OLD TIME THERE IN THE HAT SHOP, AND THEN THEY'LL GO GET SOMETHING TO EAT.
AND SOME OF THEM STAY HERE IN TOWN.
SOME STAY OTHER PLACES 'CAUSE THEY GO INTO ROUND ROCK OR AUSTIN OR WHATEVER.
UM, THE GUYS THAT HAVE COME FROM FORT WORTH AND HOUSTON, I KNOW THAT THEY STAYED HERE IN TOWN, UH,
'CAUSE IT WAS AN INTERESTING NIGHT.
SO DO YOU DO CUSTOM ORDERS? THAT'S ALL I DO.
LIKE, I HAVE SOME THAT ARE READY TO GO, BUT ALMOST EVERYTHING I DO IS MADE TO ORDER.
I MEAN, I'D SAY 85% IS SOMEBODY PLACING AN ORDER AND THEN THEY COME BACK IN A MONTH AND PICK IT UP.
SO THEY USUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
OH, WELL, EITHER THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT OR THEY'VE REALLY WANTED A HAT AND DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT TO GET.
UM, AND I WORK WITH BOTH OF THEM.
EITHER WAY BE, WHAT I TELL PEOPLE A LOT OF TIMES IS WHAT MO HATS IN MOVIES DO YOU LIKE, GIMME THREE HATS IN THREE DIFFERENT MOVIES ON THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY LIKE.
AND I WILL MAKE YOU SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN ALL THREE OF 'EM AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
SO DO YOU EVER LIKE, UH, PARTNER UP WITH SOMEONE WHO MAYBE MAKES BOOTS? NO.
UM, OR BELTS OR, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF WESTERN WEAR? THE, THE LEATHER WORKERS THAT I KNOW THAT I, THAT DO WORK FOR ME, THEY'RE NOT SET UP TO DO BIGGER STUFF.
THEY'RE HOBBYISTS THAT DO THINGS ON THE SIDE, AND I'M BUYING FROM 'EM AND HOPING THEY GET BIGGER.
LIKE I HAVE, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
UM, THE COUPLE OF BOOT GUYS, I KNOW THEY'RE BIGGER THAN I AM.
THEY'RE DOING OTHER EVENTS AND THEY'LL, YEAH.
THEY'LL HAVE ME GO DO STUFF EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE FRIEND THAT DOES VINTAGE BOOTS.
I'M JUST REALLY KIND OF DON'T LIKE CALLING HIM BECAUSE HE IS NOT REAL RELIABLE.
SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE DEALS IN, IS VINTAGE BOOTS AND STUFF.
SO IF I AM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, THAT'S WHO I GO TO, BUT OH, THAT'S GOOD.
BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S A COBBLER.
AND HE DOES THAT, BUT NOT AS HIS MAIN BUSINESS.
SO IS IS YOUR, UM, YOU'RE USING YOUR HOME AS THE, THE DWELLING? IT'S DIVIDED FROM THE HOUSE.
IT'S ABOUT 30% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WHOLE BUILDING.
AND SO IS IT AN ACCESSORY BUILDING OR IS IT CONNECTED? NO, IT'S, IT'S ONE WHOLE BUILDING.
IT'S JUST, IT'S SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
AND AND ADJACENT TO YOU OR WHAT HOMES? UH, ON MY BLOCK IS HOLMES AND THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, UH, BLOCK OVER, IT'S THOSE, THAT BIG HOUSE THAT'S GETTING REDONE TO SOMETHING COMMERCIAL ON 1660.
AND THEN TWO BLOCKS BEHIND ME IS TAYLOR STREET.
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ZONED OLD TOWN? IT IS ZONED OLD TOWN.IT'S TECHNIC THE OLD TOWN IS OLD.
OLD TOWN THREE, WHICH IS MIXED USE, I THINK.
AND THEN IN THIS FOLDER IS MY VARIANCE FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED FOR MY AND SO YOU'RE IN OLD TOWN THREE NOT SF ONE.
SO YOUR POSITION IS THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND HEIGHT AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING CONDITIONS DON'T APPLY TO YOU? 'CAUSE THAT'S FOR PEOPLE.
NOBODY'S EVER ASKED, LIKE, WHEN I BUILT THE HOUSE, I WAS GIVEN WHAT THE LANDSCAPE NEEDED TO HAVE AND I DID IT ALL WHEN IT WAS BUILT.
UH, NOBODY'S EVER COME BACK TO ME ON ANYTHING SINCE.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, UM, THAT'S CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LOCAL ORDINANCES AS THEY WERE PRESENTED.
AND THIS LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THE HU DC SO, UM, THE COMMERCIAL USE AND THE LIVE WORK, WELL, WE MAY OCCUPY NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE GROUND FLOOR.
UM, WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT A SITE PLAN THAT JUST IDENTIFIES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, OF THE PROPERTY VERSUS, OR THE BUILDING VERSUS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, JUST TO SHOW THAT THAT IS MET.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, LIVEWORK DWELLING, UH, LIMITED COMMERCIAL USE OPERATED BY A MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD THAT LIVES IN THE UNIT IS PERMITTED.
UM, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE USE OF OPERATION DOES NOT LIMITED LIMIT, UM, THE NUMBER OF, OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN'T RENT IT TO A THIRD PARTY NO.
TO RUN A BUSINESS IN YOUR HOME? NO.
IF I GET BIG ENOUGH, THEN THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY TO HAVE THE WHOLE LOT REZONED COMMERCIAL AND RENT OUT THE REST OF THE HOUSE TO OTHER CRAFTSPEOPLE.
BECAUSE THE WAY THE HOUSE IS LAID OUT IS THERE'S TWO BEDROOMS THAT FACE THE FRONT PORCH AND THEN THE MAIN BIG LIVING ROOM, KITCHEN AND DINING ROOM.
UM, AND THIS MAY BE 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT MAY NEVER HAPPEN.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING I'VE THOUGHT OF IS THAT IF I GET BIG ENOUGH, I WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE OUT, HAVE THE WHOLE LOT REZONED COMMERCIAL, RENT THOSE FRONT TWO BEDROOMS TO TWO OTHER CRAFTSPEOPLE AND PUT DOORS IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE CENTER ROOM DO SOME KIND OF LIKE POP-UP BISTRO, HAVE CHEFS COME IN AND DO THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, BUT THE WHOLE PLACE WOULD BE REZONED COMMERCIAL BEFORE THAT THE DOORS WOULD BE ADDED.
THE, SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A SMALL STRIP CENTER.
LIKE IT'D STILL BE THE HOUSE, BUT IT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL DOORS ACROSS THE FRONT FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES AND YEAH.
IT'S TINY BUSINESSES, I GUESS BECAUSE, WELL, IT KIND OF LIKE NEED LOOKS SMALL PLACES GET, I MEAN, THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT.
LIKE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU DRIVE UP THE STREET AND YOU SEE IT, YOU LOOK OVER THERE AND IT SAYS HAT SHOP AND IT'S GOT THE DOUBLE GLASS DOORS.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE.
I MEAN, I ASSUMED THAT IT WAS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THAT AREA BEING, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE OLD TOWN.
THAT, THAT, UH, OH THREE, UM, I JUST ASSUMED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILDINGS ARE AROUND THE CORNER.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S A VERY MIXED AREA IN TERMS OF USE.
SO, SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ANY ILLEGALITIES UH, FACIALLY ON THIS PROJECT.
CAN WE REVISIT THE EXACT ASK? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN TALK ABOUT A POSSIBLE 0% INTEREST LOAN THAT WOULD BE FORGIVEN IF CERTAIN PERFORMANCE METRICS WERE NO, I WAS JUST, I WAS OFFERED THE, THE 20%, NO, 20,000 AS A GRANT.
PLUS 30,000 AT A LOAN AT, UH, 4% INTEREST.
UM, AND I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE LOAN BECAUSE I CAN GET ONE FOR LOWER INTEREST THAN THAT, BUT I WANTED THE GRANT.
SO IT'S THE 20, THE 20 K IS STILL THE ASK.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR ANYMORE.
UH, UH, COUNSEL, CAN WE MOVE ON THIS OR ASK FOR A MOTION ON THIS? OR DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS IN EXECUTIVE BEFORE WE, WHAT'S, WELL, IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, THIS IS A PRESENTATION.
I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE NEEDED IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO FORWARD.
THEN WE WOULD PREPARE A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT MM-HMM
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, GATHER UP ALL THE MATERIALS FOR THAT TO BE A, A, A, UH, READY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY MAKE A MOVE ON IT.
AND THE, THE WHOLE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING IS 3,200 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE BUSINESS PORTION IS 1,280, SO IT'S WELL BELOW THE 50%.
WE'LL JUST NEED SOME DOCUMENTATION TO GO WITH THE AGREEMENT.
I CAN, SHOULD THEY SAY TO GO FORWARD AND BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD HAS STRUGGLED WITH IN THE PAST, IS WHAT DOES THAT PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE?
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'CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TOSSED THIS AROUND NOW FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR.UM, AND WE, WE'VE NEVER REALLY BEEN ABLE TO SATISFACTORY COME UP WITH A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT MEETS HIS NEEDS AND PROTECTS THIS BOARD.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE STICKY WICKET HERE IS WHAT DOES THAT PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT LOOK LIKE? WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE WINE BAR.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAD A, CAN I TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT'S A GRANT, UM, AND IT WAS DISPERSED IN THREE DIFFERENT INCREMENTS.
UM, AND IT WAS BASED ON SALES VOLUME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A STANDARD IN PLACE FOR BUSINESSES THAT ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT DO, THAT SELL COOL THINGS THAT MAKE OUR TOWN FUN.
YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN HAVE NICE THINGS HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, UH, SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT BEARS A LOT MORE DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, UM, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. PIERCE HAS BEEN, UH, KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE RINGER HERE AND, AND ASKED TO COME BACK AND BRING THINGS.
AND HE'S SATISFIED ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS.
HE'S SATISFIED ALL OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY REQUIREMENTS.
SO I, I THINK IT DOES BEAR, UH, SERIOUS CONSIDERATION IN, IN MOVEMENT MOVING FORWARD.
OR IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
SO THE, UH, PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IS TYPICALLY BASED ON AN IMPACT DATA ANALYSIS THAT'S RUN.
AND SO HAVING ACCURATE SALES INFORMATION AND PROJECTIONS IS CRITICAL.
SO IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, AND WHILE WE WERE, UM, WAITING ON THE LIST FILER SUBMISSIONS THAT CHANGES THE SALES TAX THAT THE CITY EARNS.
UM, AND SO I WOULD NEED TO RERUN THAT REPORT, UH, AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AS FAR AS WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND PAYBACK PERIOD WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AS I'VE DONE WITH THE OTHER PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS THAT THE BOARD HAS AUTHORIZED.
I HAVE A COMMENT, JUST AN OBSERVATION, SINCE I'M A NEW BOARD MEMBER MM-HMM
I KNOW THAT IN AUSTIN THERE ARE A LOT OF COTTAGE, UH MM-HMM
BUSINESSES A LOT, AND THEY'RE VERY PROFITABLE.
AND THEY, THEY SELL PRODUCT, THEY MAKE PRODUCT IN THEIR HOMES AND THEY SELL PRODUCT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, DIFFERENT STATES.
AND IT'S, UH, FAIRLY SIMPLE PROCESS IS MY IMPRESSION.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT HUDU ALSO WOULD BE A FRIENDLY TYPE OF MUNICIPALITY TO WELCOME THAT SORT OF THING AND NOT TREAT IT AS THOUGH YOU WERE A SAMSUNG OR OTHERWISE, BUT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR AREA AND OUR REGION SO ATTRACTIVE THAT WE HAVE THOSE UNIQUE TYPE BUSINESSES AND WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME FROM OTHER PLACES AND, AND, UM, OBTAIN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
I MEAN, I PARTICULARLY LIKE CATS FOR WOMEN
SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S MY, I BOTH MY COMMENT BOTH, I THINK THAT, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO CONSIDER WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR FUTURE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THE SAME THING.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE MAKING, I KNOW THERE WAS A SITUATION, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT A GAL WHO WAS MAKING SOURDOUGH BREAD, I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEM EVERYWHERE.
I BUY SOURDOUGH BREAD FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE AREA.
HEY, I KNOW THE DEAL WITH HERS WAS THAT SHE WASN'T PERMITTED, SHE WASN'T PERMITTED FOR FOOD AND SHE WAS KEEPING SET HOURS.
AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
LIKE, YOU CAN, SOMEBODY CAN CALL YOU AND ASK, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? CAN I COME BY AND PICK UP A LOAF? AND YES, THAT WORKS EVEN WITHOUT HAVING A PERMIT.
BUT IF YOU POST HOURS IS WHERE THAT SHE MADE A MISTAKE.
SHE WAS, SHE VIOLATED THE CODE.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR CODES TOO.
ANYWAY, THAT'S MY OBSERVATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M, I'M ON TRACK TO DO 20% MORE THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR TO DATE RIGHT NOW.
SO IT KEEPS GROWING EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO IT WAS ONE QUARTER OF WHAT I DID LAST YEAR, SO.
WELL, WHEN YOU DO A GOOD JOB, THE WORD GETS AROUND, RIGHT,
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YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR US? OKAY, THANK YOU.UH, IF THIS IS NOT CURRENTLY LISTED ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR 8.2 UHHUH, HOWEVER, UNDER OUR, UH, RESERVATION OF RIGHTS, UM, THAT WE CAN CALL ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA, UM, UNDER 5 5 1 0 7 1 OR 5 5 1 0 8 7, UM, IF THE, THE, UH, BOARD WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TO, UH, ADD THIS, THIS ITEM TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, A MAJORITY VOTE UNDER THE RESERVATION WOULD ALLOW IT FOR THIS EVENING.
IT'S BOTTOM, BOTTOM LEFT ON THE PARAGRAPH.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL CORRECT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
ECONOMIC DIRECTORS REPORT, 6.1 STAFF WILL PROVIDE UPDATES ON CRITICAL PROJECTS INCLUDING THE MEGA SITES, SPINE ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, HIGHWAY 79, AND CO COUNTY ROAD 1 3 2 INTERSECTION PROJECT, WILLIAMSON COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP EVENT RECAPS AND UPCOMING EVENTS.
UM, ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, YOU HAVE IN THE FINANCIAL PACKET, THE FINAL PAY APP FROM JORDAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTION PAY APP NUMBER 18.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES THAT PROJECT AND CLOSES IT OUT FROM A PAYMENT STANDPOINT.
UM, THIS IS SLATED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ACCEPTANCE AS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 26TH.
UM, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM THE EMAIL TRAFFIC TRAFFIC I'VE SEEN, WE ARE ON TRACK TO DO SO.
UH, AND THAT DOES SATISFY THE OBLIGATIONS BETWEEN THE EDC AND TITAN AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE, UM, REQUIREMENTS ON CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE FOR THE ROAD PROJECT.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT OF A CUSHION THERE.
SO IF FOR SOME REASON I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON VEGETATION REESTABLISHMENT, THAT'S ALWAYS THE THING WE'RE WAITING ON
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER IN THERE, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT TO THE JULY 10TH MEETING AS WELL IF NEEDED.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF WE CAN TAKE IT, IF IT'S READY FOR THE 26TH, THAT'S OUR PREFERENCE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE HIGHWAY 79 AND 1 32 INTERSECTION AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THAT INTERCHANGE AND GAVE VERY CLEAR DIRECTION, UM, TO STAFF THAT THAT INTERSECTION PROJECT EFFECTIVELY, UM, GET PAUSED FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND LET THE DEVELOPMENT LEAD ANY, UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO PRIORITIZE AND PROTECT ACCESS TO THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES IN SUPPORT OF THE RE UH, RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PLANNED THERE.
UH, MIDWAY AND THEIR RETAIL PARTNER ARE VERY EXCITED AND THEY ARE ENGAGING THEIR ENGINEERS IMMEDIATELY TO START, UH, WORKING ON DESIGN THERE.
THEY'RE ALSO SUBMITTING AN SER AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, THAT WILL INFORM THE, THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
SO REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE THAT, UH, CLARITY, SO THANKFUL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR PROVIDING THAT.
SO WE HAVE A TRIP TO SOUTH KOREA COMING UP, UH, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I LEAVE ON THE 22ND AND COME BACK ON THE 28TH.
I RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY WITH A WHOLE LIST OF MEETINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET, UH, AND MORE TO COME.
SO I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT AS I'M TECHNICALLY OUT OF THE OFFICE TODAY,
UM, BUT WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT COME THROUGH AND APPRECIATE THEIR, UM, EFFORTS TO GET THAT SQUARED AWAY AND MAKE IT A PRODUCTIVE TRIP.
SO, UM, EVENTS COMING UP, OR I GUESS PAST EVENTS, ICSC, SO I ATTENDED THAT WITH ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER, UH, AS WELL AS BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ AND BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN.
UH, WE WILL PREPARE A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR THE JULY BOARD MEETING, UM, BUT WANTED TO OPEN IT UP IF, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ANY OF THEIR COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, KEY TAKEAWAYS.
NOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
IF YOU WANNA SAVE IT FOR THE JULY MEETING, THAT'S FINE TOO.
SEE, UM, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU.
WELL, WHILE SHE'S LOOKING FOR THAT, MY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE WE DID MEET, UM, THAT FELLOW CHENEY, REMEMBER THE FELLOW THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW HE HELPS, UH, MUNICIPALITIES REALLY CHANGE
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INTO A CULTURAL, UM, TYPE, UM, UM, AREA TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME TO IT AS A DESTINATION.AND THE FELLOW THAT, UM, AUTOGRAPHED THE BOOK THAT HE WROTE, REMEMBER HIM MM-HMM
AND SO HE AT THAT TIME INDICATED HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING TO SEE IF WE WANTED TO BRING HIM IN TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND I DON'T, I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO HIM, BUT I HAVE BEEN READING HIS BOOK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT, TO SEE IF HE'D DO THAT, MAYBE ON ONE OF HIS TRAVELS WHERE HE WOULD, UH, BE WILLING TO COME IN AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT AND VISION OF HOW HE WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT AND HELPING US.
SO, YEAH, I THINK IF THE, GO AHEAD.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A BOARD DECISION 'CAUSE I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FE FIND OUT THOSE DETAILS FIRST IF THE BOARD'S INTERESTED.
UH, AND THEN NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR, UH, EITHER STAFF OR BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ, IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT ON, REACHING OUT TO THE GENTLEMAN TO FIGURE OUT HIS SCHEDULING, AND THEN ALSO COSTS ASSOCIATED SO THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER FURTHER.
SO SUNDAY, UM, KENDRA SCOTT WAS THE, UH, THE, UH, THANK YOU.
I COULDN'T THINK OF THE WORD KEYNOTE, KEYNOTE SPEAKER.
AND IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE A BUSINESS, A VERY SMALL BUSINESS THAT ORIGINATED HERE IN AUSTIN AND TAUGHT SHE STARTS HATS AND HER, YEAH, SHE STARTED OFF SELLING HATS AND HER TALKING ABOUT HER EXPANSION AND, UM, HOW SHE'S DONATED LIKE OVER $7 MILLION TO HER FOUNDATION.
UM, AND IT IS AMAZING HOW SOMETHING LIKE A PIECE OF JEWELRY OR A HAT OR WHATEVER CAN, UM, CAN REALLY EXPAND, UH, WITH THE RIGHT LEADER AT, AT THE HELM.
UM, WE ALSO, I WENT TO A PROPERTY TECH INNOVATION SESSION, A NEGOTIATING STRATEGY SESSION, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PANEL DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING.
UM, SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT THAT WE WILL PUT IN OUR PRESENTATION FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
UM, AND THEN THAT EVENING WRAPPED UP WITH GREG NORMAN DOING HIS KEYNOTE AND TALKING ABOUT GOLF AND HOW IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL, UM, AND HOW IT HAS BEEN AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL FOR WHERE HE'S PUT HIS GOLF COURSES.
AND THAT WAS VERY, UM, IMPACTFUL I THOUGHT.
UM, AND THEN MONDAY, UH, WE, THERE WAS A RETAIL INNOVATION PANEL, UM, A RETAIL REAL ESTATE INSIGHTS PANEL, ALSO AN URBAN DE URBAN DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES PANEL, WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING.
UM, AND THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW, UM, MUNICIPALITIES CAN PLAY A KEY ROLE IN MAKING AFFORDABLE PROJECTS, PENCIL AND, UH, HOW THE URBAN INFILL, UH, THEME IS SORT OF TRANSFERRING TO SUBURBAN AREAS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT MORE WALKABILITY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE MIDWAY PROJECT.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS PRETTY EXCITING TO HEAR.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ON TUESDAY, UH, CHANEY AND I STAYED BEHIND TO SEE THE LAST AI IN RETAIL PANEL DISCUSSION.
AND THE AI IN RETAIL WAS, WAS VERY INTERESTING AS WELL.
SO KEY TAKEAWAYS, EXPERIENCE IS EVERYTHING IN A RETAIL ENVIRONMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT RETAILERS, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE EXPERIENCE THEY'RE PROVIDING? AND NOT JUST IN THE BUILDING, BUT AROUND THE BUILDING, RIGHT? UM, AI IS A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
NOT ONLY RETAIL EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO IN REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
THAT SEEMED TO BE A THEME JUST THROUGHOUT, UM, PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE AND HOW IT'S DESIGNED, UH, BALANCING WORK, PLAY, AND LIVE, UM, HELPS TO CREATE MORE SUSTAINABLE ECOSYSTEMS. I MEAN, THIS SEEMS OBVIOUSLY LIKE KIND OF A NO-BRAINER, BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO SPRAWL WITH OUR, ALL OF OUR HOME BUILD DEVELOPMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAY AND WORK ASPECT I THINK ALSO NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSIDERED.
THERE'S CERTAIN DE THERE'S DEMAND FOR URBANIZATION OF SUBURBAN SPACES FOR BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE DENSITY, ESPECIALLY IN SUBURBAN CITIES WITH YOUNGER POPULATIONS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY INTERESTING, CONSIDERING THAT HUDU HAS A, UH, AVERAGE AGE OF WHAT, 35, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 35, 36, UM, MIDDLE INCOME HOME PURCHASE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AT AN ALL TIME LOW IN THE US WITH INCREASING DEMAND.
I THINK CERTAINLY WE SEE THAT HERE IN HETO AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, MUNICIPALITIES CAN PLAY A KEY ROLE IN MAKING AFFORDABLE PROJECTS PENCIL.
SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD, WE WERE, UH, RUNNING, UH, FROM THING TO THING AND EXHAUSTED AND, UH, BUT IT WAS, WE LEARNED A LOT, PICKED UP A LOT OF BROCHURES, TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS, AND, UM, YEAH, IT WAS, I THINK A REALLY PRODUCTIVE TIME.
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MANY EXPRESSED INTEREST, A LOT OF INTEREST IN HURO, SO THAT WAS INTERESTING.ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY UPDATE
UH, I KNOW THE BOARD HAD ASKED FOR TEAM BUILDING OVER AT HOOKY, SO I'M WORKING WITH, UH, CHARLIE AND HIS EVENTS PERSON OVER THERE TO, UM, GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.
SO I'LL BE REACHING OUT AGAIN, UM, NOT AGAIN, BUT I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO GET THAT SCHEDULED.
UM, SO I WILL PROBABLY ALSO BE REACHING OUT TO THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT YOUR AVAILABILITY LOOKS LIKE, IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE TRYING TO DO DURING THE WEEK AND THE EVENING ON A WEEKEND, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN GET ANY ASSOCIATED COSTS WITH THAT AS WELL SO THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER, UM, FURTHER.
SO, UH, I SHOULD HAVE THAT FOR YOU GUYS FOR JULY, SO WE CAN GET THAT SCHEDULED FOR Y'ALL.
UM, I THINK, UH, I DID WANNA ALSO ADD A REMINDER AS FAR AS UPCOMING EVENTS, I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT AN EVENT.
SO, UH, SEVERAL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TERMS ARE EXPIRING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO STAFF OR CITY SECRETARY, UH, LETTING US KNOW IF YOU ARE CON INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO SERVE, UH, OR NOT, SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE, UH, NOMINATING COMMITTEE.
OTHERWISE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE THIRD MEMBER WILL BE AS THAT PLACE HAS A NEW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOINING CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE ADDED TO THAT TEAM, TEAM OR NOT.
SO AT THIS TIME, THE CHAIR IS COUNCIL MEMBER PORTER PORTERFIELD.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND REACHING OUT TO HIM DIRECTLY IF YOU WOULD PREFER.
UM, I BELIEVE, UM, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING YOUR SERVICE, I BELIEVE YOU ALSO NEED TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION ONLINE, BUT I WILL CONFIRM THAT.
'CAUSE I THINK THE PROCESS MAY HAVE CHANGED A, A LITTLE BIT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE IN CASE IT IS A REQUIREMENT, SO IT WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE HEARING IT WHEN WE SHOOT YOU THE EMAIL WITH THE LINK.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
SO CHENEY, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR INVITING US TO JOIN YOU AT THE ICSC CONFERENCE.
IT WAS REALLY A QUITE A EX, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR US.
YES, IT, IT IS QUITE THE EXPERIENCE.
I KNOW, UH, CHAIR CLANCY HAS BEEN AND CAN
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO, TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND, AND THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD.
CHENEY, ARE THERE ANY O UPCOMING EVENTS? UM, OUTSIDE OF, WELL, I MEAN OUTSIDE OF THE STANDARD CHAMBER, UH, LUNCHEON AND POWER BREAKFAST THAT ARE MONTHLY, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ON MY RADAR.
UM, I'LL BE AT TEDC NEXT WEEK, UH, FOR A FEW DAYS, AND THEN I LEAVE FOR SOUTH KOREA.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH TAKES UP THE REST OF MY JUNE AND WHAT WE'LL BE, I WILL BE ATTENDING, BUT I KNOW MY STAFF WILL BE AT VARIOUS RIBBON CUTTINGS WITH THE CHAMBER.
UM, I KNOW THE LIBRARY HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF EVENTS IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN, IN THAT, AS WELL AS OUR PARKS AND REC.
AND THOSE ARE FOUND ON THE CITY'S CALENDAR ON THE WEBSITE, IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THOSE.
YEAH, THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION HAS A, HAS A, UM, I THINK IT'S CALLED LIKE BLUES, BLUES, BOOZE AND CREWS OR SOMETHING.
UH, BUT IT'S, I THINK IT'S, OH, THE RED WHITES AND BRUISE.
WITH THE TWIST? YES, WITH THE TWIST.
THE, IT'S THE FUNDRAISER FOR THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION.
THAT'S, UH, IT'S IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR JANIE ABOUT HER REPORT? NO.
AGENDA ITEMS 7.1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR MAY, 2025.
UM, CHRISTINA BISHOP, CITY CONTROLLER.
UM, I EMAILED OUT THE FINANCIALS, UH, FRIDAY EVENING, UM, ALONG WITH THE INVOICES FOR APPROVAL.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO
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NOTE THIS MONTH.IT WAS A PRETTY STANDARD SALES TAX MONTH.
YOU START HAVING YOUR, UM, UH, GRANT PAYMENTS COMING THROUGH FOR THE, UH, BIG INCENTIVE PAYMENTS, UH, WHICH IS, UH, UM, NQ TWO AND, UH, PROJECT V.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT LIKE I SAID, A PRETTY, UH, ROUTINE MONTH HERE.
UM, THE VERY LAST PAGE OF THE FINANCIAL REPORT, UM, FOR MAY, 2025, IT SAYS SALES TAX DUE BY CITY TO EDC AND THEN, UM, AND THEN DUE TO CITY FOR EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT WAS LIKE 7,500.
AND THEN THE AMOUNT DUE TO EDC TO SETTLE ENTER FUNDS WAS 3 37, 7 1 9 0.93.
I WAS LOOKING, I COULDN'T FIND THAT IN THE BUDGET.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE IT WAS REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET.
SO THE SALES TAX, EVERY MONTH THE, UH, CITY GETS THE SALES TAX OR THE EDC SHARE THE SALES TAX FROM THE COP TROLLER.
RIGHT? AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH, WE, UM, REMIT THAT TO THE, UH, EDC, WHATEVER WE TAKE OUT OF THAT, OUR EXPENSES THAT THE CITY HAS PAID ON BEHALF OF THE EDC MM-HMM
SO, UM, IN THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGETS, UM, THEY HAVE A, A LINE AUDIT SERVICES FOR 7,500.
THAT'S WHAT THE EDC AGREES TO CONTRIBUTE WHEN THEY ADOPT THEIR BUDGET.
SO, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING, PROBABLY TOMORROW WE WILL, UH, THE CITY WILL TRANSFER THE 337,719.
AND THAT'S JUST, UM, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON, UM, IF THE CITY, USUALLY IT'S THE SALES TAXES ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD, IT'S USUALLY THE EXPENSES THE CITY PAYS FOR THAT WAS WITH THE WHOLE P CARD THING.
UM, THAT, WHICH IS WHY CHENEY REQUESTED A CREDIT CARD.
'CAUSE IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE EDC SIDE.
OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE JUST CHARGING THINGS ON THE CITY'S CREDIT CARD AND SAYING, EDC, YOU OWE US.
THAT'S, UH, SO IS THAT REALLY WHAT THIS LAST PAGE IS FOR? OH, OKAY.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON FIXING THAT OR GETTING SHAY A CREDIT CARD, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
WHEN IS THAT? DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN? OOH, I'M HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
AND SO IT SAYS AUDIT SERVICE REIMBURSEMENT, $7,500 DUE TO CITY FOR EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT.
SO THAT'S JUST THE ARROW BRINGING IT DOWN THERE.
THAT'S JUST, YOU'RE JUST POINTING IT UP TO THE, THE, THE ITEM AND THEN IT'S DESCRIBED TO THE RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, WERE YOU DONE? OH, GO FOR IT, CHRISTINA, ON THE OTHER LIABILITIES, WHAT IS THAT? 50,000? OKAY.
SO I WAS ACTUALLY JUST THINKING OF THIS.
SO THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT, I WANNA SAY IT WAS MAYBE THE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE AGREEMENTS WHERE THEY HAD DEPOSITED $50,000 WITH THE CITY TO COVER ANY LEGAL EXPENSES WE INCUR, UM, IN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A YEAR OR TWO, SO I MIGHT NEED TO VISIT WITH GEORGE AND SEE, UM, IF WE'RE EVER GONNA DRAW ON THOSE FUNDS.
'CAUSE YEAH, THE, I MEAN, 50,000 OTHER LIABILITIES, IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE LIKE A, A, UH, FOOTNOTE TO IT.
AND SO JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT IS, HOW IT CONTRIBUTES, UM, WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND ONCE YOU GET THAT, IF YOU COULD JUST EMAIL THAT OUT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IT'S KIND OF CASH WE'RE HOLDING ON DUE TO COVER SOME LEGAL EXPENSES.
I CAN, I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL TITAN DEALS, UH, TITAN PROVIDED AN, UH, $50,000, UH, ESCROW FOR USE IN, UH, THE EVENT THAT THEY NEEDED OUR ASSISTANCE IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS.
THE, WHETHER IT WAS, UH, LAND USE ISSUES OR OTHERS, UM, THAT REQUEST HAD NEVER COME.
AND SO THOSE FUNDS HAVE REMAINED THERE SINCE THE ORIGINAL TITAN PROJECT.
UM, THERE'S NOT BEEN A REQUEST FOR THEM.
SO IF THE CITY CAL OR THE BOARD WANTS TO, UH, UH, REFUND THOSE FUNDS, THEY CAN.
UH, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE CURRENTLY JUST ESCROWED WITH, WITH THE, THE BOARD.
AND TITAN, TITAN HASN'T LIKE REQUESTED THOSE BACK AT ALL? I DON'T, I'VE, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING, SO THAT'S INTERESTING.
WOULDN'T WE WANT TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM? WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, I MEAN, I, I WOULD DEFER TO CHENEY AND YEAH, I THINK WE SEE NEED, IF THERE'S ANY FINANCIAL BACK AND FORTH THAT WE NEED TO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, SET THOSE ASIDE OR SET OFF MM-HMM
ANY COSTS OR THAT TITAN MAY OWE US.
UM, SO WE ARE TO DATE NOT QUITE 2.6 MILLION IN SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE YEAR AND WE'RE BUDGETED 3.6 OR WE, OR DO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT? ARE WE GONNA EXCEED IT FOR THE YEAR? WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA LAND ON? SALES TAX REVENUE? OKAY, GOOD QUESTION.
SO, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD I CAN TRY AND BREAK OUT.
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I THINK WE WILL HIT SALES TAXES FOR THE YEAR.ONE THING THAT WHEN WE BUILD THE SALES TAX BUDGET, THERE'S ACTUALLY NEGATIVES UNDER, SO IT'S OUR GROSS RECEIPTS, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, THE NQ TWO SALES TAX REIMBURSEMENT SORT OF SUBTRACTS FROM THERE.
THAT'S NOT BEING PAID TILL NEXT MONTH WHEN CHA CHENEY AND I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK TO SORT OF DISCUSS TIMING, AGREEING ON DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER UN A BETTER PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA FALL NET NEXT MONTH.
UM, AND WE CAN SHARE DETAILS OF WHAT WE AGREE TO, WHAT THE PAYMENT, UM, WHEN WE FIND THAT OUT, WE WON'T WAIT UNTIL NEXT MEETING TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE LOAN INTEREST PAYMENT.
UM, JUST WONDERING WHERE OR DO ARE WE GONNA MOVE? I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, INTEREST PAYMENT IS BEING PAID BY A COMPANY, SO, UM, IS THAT BEING ACCRUED? ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORIGINAL TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT? YEAH, WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THAT.
THE REASON IT'S OVER BUDGET RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE, UH, WE, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED TO, FOR OUR LAND SALES THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE THOUGHT SOME OF THEM WOULD OCCUR EARLIER.
WE'D PAY OFF THE ALLIANCE BANK LOAN EARLIER AND THEREFORE STOP, UH, INCURRING INTEREST WITH THAT.
SO WE WILL DO AN END OF YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT WITH THAT, UM, TO GET ALL OF THESE LINE ITEMS, UM, SORT OF EVENED OUT.
I KNOW WE HAD ALREADY DONE THE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE, UM, CAPITAL OUTLAY ACCOUNT AND THE CONTRIBUTION FROM CITI, BUT WE'RE WAITING TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE END OF THE YEAR AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, THE INTEREST PAYMENT ON THAT, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT WILL GO UP? LIKE IS THERE A DATE, I THINK, WAS IT MARCH OR ANY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN, SO, UH, THE INTEREST PAYMENTS SHOULD ACTUALLY BE DECREASING AS TIME GOES ON AS WE PAY DOWN THE PRINCIPAL.
HOWEVER, THE BIG BALLOON PRIN PRINCIPAL PAYMENT IS DUE NEXT FEBRUARY.
SO, UM, WE'LL REALLY COME TO A HEAD THEN.
BUT WE ARE HOPING WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF, UH, LAND SALES COMPLETED BY THEN BEFORE THAT EVEN BECOMES AN ISSUE.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD BRING THAT TO, UM, OUR ATTENTION, LET'S SAY LIKE OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER THIS YEAR, SO THAT WE COULD START THINKING ABOUT CREATIVE WAYS IF THE LAND SALE DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I, SIRENS WILL BE GOING OFF WELL BEFORE THEN FOR ME, IF THAT'S
THANK WE WANNA GET DO IT BEFORE THEN.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET? UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR MAY OF 2025, PLEASE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN AND SECOND BY ADVICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO.
CAN I CALL OR CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AYE.
OKAY, 7.2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE MIN THE MINUTES FROM CORPORATIONS REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 12TH, 2025.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER BRIAN THOMPSON AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ.
5 0 7 0.3, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION, H-E-D-D-C-R DASH 2025 DASH ONE THREE APPROVING A FACADE, A FACADE GRANT PROGRAM TO SUPPORT THE CORRESPONDING LINE ITEM IN THE CORPORATION'S FISCAL YEAR 2026, PROPOSED BUDGET.
UM, Y'ALL HAD THE PROPOSED PROGRAM DOCUMENTS IN YOUR LINK TO REVIEW, UM, AND
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THAT WAS PREPARED BY LEGAL.SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, I WOULD DEFER TO LEGAL AND IF LEGAL WANTS TO POINT OUT ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR IN THE PROGRAM, UH, FEEL FREE.
UM, SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT SECTION FIVE, THE SELECTION PROC PROCESS, A APPLICATION.
UM, SO WHERE IT SAYS THE, FOR THE APPLICATION, ARE THEY GONNA, COULD WE, WE PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON LIKE, DO WE, ARE WE GOING TO E DO THEY EMAIL IT? DO THEY UPLOAD THE DOCUMENTS? DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED AND PRINTED? DOES IT PRINTED IN WRITING? DOES IT MATTER? JUST MORE DETAILS THERE.
SO IT JUST LIMITS THE CONFUSION FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WELL, THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE A PROCEDURAL ISSUE FOR CHENEY TO HANDLE.
UH, BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE US TO, TO NAIL IT DOWN, WE CAN, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE, SO IS THIS DOCUMENT GONNA BE INTERNAL OR IS THIS GONNA BE A DOCUMENT THAT IF SOMEONE WAS TO APPLY FOR THIS FACADE GRANT THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD? BOTH.
SO THAT, SO THAT'S MY, JUST MY QUESTION IS LIKE, IF, IF I WAS GONNA APPLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MAKE IT EASY TO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHERE YOU EMAIL, HERE'S WHAT YOU DO, HERE'S WHAT YOU SUBMIT.
IF WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A PROCEDURAL MANNER AND WE DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY PUT IT IN THIS DOCUMENT, THEN I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR.
CHANEY DO, DO YOU, GEORGE, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MIC TOWARDS YOUR MOUTH COURSE? 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR IT ON THE RECORDING OF THANK YOU.
OF, UM, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
UM, DO YOU DO A COVER SHEET ON THESE THAT, THAT PROVIDE THE POTENTIAL APPLICANTS WHAT THE PROCESS IS? OR DO YOU JUST PROVIDE THEM WITH THE INFORMATION TO, UH, APPLY FOR THE FACADE GRANT? SO THIS IS THE FIRST FACADE GRANT PROGRAM THAT THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CONTAINED IN THE POLICY ITSELF.
FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD EXPECT THIS PROGRAM TO BE MANAGED WITH THE CIVIC SERVE SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN TO MANAGE OUR OTHER INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. UM, SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO, UH, FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURE.
THE DATES MAY CHANGE EACH YEAR.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING THEIR BUDGET FOR THE, THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD COMMIT TO EXACT DATES EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
'CAUSE AS WE KNOW, CALENDAR SHIFTS, THE DATES, EVEN IF WE SAID THIS DATE AND THAT DATE, ONE OF 'EM MIGHT BE ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, AND THAT DOESN'T, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS CONDUCIVE TO BUSINESS.
SO, UM, I GUESS JUST MY CONCERN IS THAT THE WAY THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BUDGET FOR A FACADE GRANT, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD, IT, IT DOESN'T BEHOOVE ANYONE TO DO A, UH, MAKE A BUDGET ITEM FOR A FACADE GRANT AND OFFER A FACADE GRANT AND THEN NOT PAY IT, NOT GIVE IT OUT TO ANYBODY.
SO IF, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS VERY STREAMLINED AND EASY AND BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, UM, JUST REFERRING BACK TO SIMILAR LIKE WITH, UH, MR. PIERCE AND HIS APPLICATION PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE HAVE EVERYTHING REALLY INTUITIVE AT THE BE AT THE STARTING POINT, THEN IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, OKAY, I'VE COMPLETED ALL MY DOCUMENTS, I'VE UPLOADED ALL OF MY PICTURES AND MY PERMITS AND MY THIS AND MY THAT.
UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF IT'S OLD TOWN, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, P AND Z FIRST OR IS IT GONNA HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY, YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC COMMISSION? I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A, YOU KNOW, SOME MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT CONFUSING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.
UM, OR THEY DON'T SIT ON BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.
THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MAKE THE RED TAPE A LITTLE LESS RED, UM, IT JUST MIGHT BE MORE USER FRIENDLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE THIS RENDERINGS, ELEVATIONS, DRAWINGS, ET CETERA FOR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, ARE WE REQUIRING THOSE TO BE STAMPED? ARE WE NOT REQUIRING THOSE TO BE STAMPED, UH, PROOF OF CURRENT PROPERTY INSURANCE AND TAX COMPLIANCE? HOW ARE THEY GONNA APPROVE TAX COMPLIANCE? UM, YOU KNOW, THE, A RECEIPT THAT THEY PAID THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
I MEAN, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YEAH, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN THESE ITEMS SO THAT IT'S NOT CONFUSING FOR A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD, UM, DEVELOP THAT AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ATTACHED TO IT THAT, UM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING YOU NEED TAX COMPLIANCE, WHAT YOU NEED IS A COPY OF THE, UM, CAD DOCUMENT SHOWING THAT THE PAYMENT BILL'S BEEN PAID, RIGHT.
STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN DO TO, TO ASSIST, UH, THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH TO KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE IN ADDITION TO JUST WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS, RIGHT.
AND WHAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE AND ALSO HOW THEY NEED TO PROVIDE
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IT.SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE USING LIKE CIVIC SERVE AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WEBSITE WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, CLICK HERE TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT AND THEN THEY CAN UPLOAD THEIR DOCUMENTS JUST TO TRY TO STREAMLINE IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING, YOU KNOW, MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MEETINGS LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE INCOMPLETE OR FRUSTRATING CITIZENS THAT ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, USE THESE PROGRAMS. YEAH.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
OTHERWISE, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT.
I DON'T KNOW, UM, UH, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A NEW CO UM, SO FOR THE, AND FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY REQUEST FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT PORTION OF THE PROGRAM IN SECTION F, UM, WHERE IT SAYS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS REQUIRED.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HEARD THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A NEW CO.
SO WE WANNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOES IT REQUIRE A NEW CO YES OR NO? YES.
SKIP IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING.
OR DEFINE IT SO THEY KNOW, RIGHT? NO, BECAUSE BLAH, BLAH BLAH, LIKE WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING.
I JUST, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS USED MM-HMM
AND THAT WE MAKE THE PROCESSES STREAMLINED AS POSSIBLE.
UM, OTHERWISE I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC.
YEAH, THOSE ARE A LOT OF GREAT POINTS ARE, AND UM, CHENEY, DID YOU SAY THAT WE ARE ARE GONNA HAVE THIS IN THE SAME AREA AS OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAM ONLINE? WELL, SORT OF, SO IT'LL BE HOW IT WILL BE MANAGED BY THE CIVIC SERVE PLATFORM.
SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO AND USE THE ONLINE PLATFORM TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION, TO SUBMIT ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, SEND ANY COMMENTS OR RESPONSES BACK, LIKE IF SOMETHING'S MISSING OR, YOU KNOW, THE FILE TYPE DIDN'T COME THROUGH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THEM THROUGH THAT PLATFORM SO IT TRACKS EVERYTHING AND KEEP EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE.
UM, SO AS FAR AS WHERE THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE MARKETED, UM, I DON'T, I MEAN, I WOULD, IT TECHNICALLY IS AN INCENTIVE, SO I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE, UM, PLACED IN THE SAME AREA, UH, AS OUR OTHER INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S OTHER THOUGHTS ON WHERE AND HOW TO, TO MARKET THAT OR COMMUNICATE IT, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S DEFINITELY OPEN TO THOSE SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, AND CERTAINLY WITH OUR BUSINESS, UM, ERE BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION, THANK YOU.
OUR BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION PROGRAM, I THINK FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MM-HMM
SPEAK, SPEAK TO THOSE BUSINESSES DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS NEW PROGRAM, UM, JUST MORE VALUE ADD MM-HMM
AND IS THIS A LINE ITEM? LIKE, IT'S UP TO, I MEAN, IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE CAN GRANT UP TO 25,000 PER APPLICANT, BUT IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE GO UP TO? IT WAS A LINE ITEM BUDGET.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, I DON'T REMEMBER.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT, BUT IT WAS IN THE BUDGET.
YEAH, IN, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
IT'S A $100,000 LINE ITEM FOR THE SOD GRANT AND IT'S A 50% MATCH, UH, UP TO 25,000.
SO EFFECTIVELY A BUS, UH, A PROPERTY OWNER COULD SPEND $50,000 UP TO $50,000 AND GET 25,000 OF THAT REIMBURSED.
SO, UH, EFFECTIVELY IF, IF PROPERTY OWNERS MAX THIS OUT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT FOUR BUSINESSES THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY STRONG SHOWING, UH, THE FIRST GO ROUND.
AND IF IT'S WELL UTILIZED, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CONSIDERS, UM, FURTHER INVESTMENT IN OR WE GETTING FEEDBACK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, $200,000 JUST TO DO A FA FULL FACADE IMPROVEMENT, THEN, THEN THAT'S FEEDBACK THAT WE CAN TAKE IN AND WE CAN, UH, KIND OF EVOLVE THE PROGRAM TO MATCH THE NEEDS OF, OF OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM? CAN WE, UH, CAN WE MAKE A, CAN WE MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OR, UH, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER? OR WHAT'S THE, WELL, SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT, WE WOULD PREFER JUST THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE CHANGES AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL.
SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING THE DOCUMENT THAT THE SAME MANNER IN WHICH IT IS GOING TO BE DONE? SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF OR DO WE WANT TO, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF POLICY.
DO I I'M NOT TRYING TO LIKE STYMIE THIS AND MAKE US HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE NOTHER MONTH TO GET THIS DONE.
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YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, WE, WE CAN, CAN WE JUST GIVE FEEDBACK ON HOW THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO CHANGE IT IN THE SPECIFIC DOCUMENT? RIGHT.WE, WE COULD, WE COULD INCLUDE DIRECT INSTRUCTIONS IN THE APPLICATION THAT PROVIDES THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
UM, AND IT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF, BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE KINDA LIKE A, DON'T, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S NOT THIS COMPLICATED, BUT KINDA LIKE AN IR RSS DOCUMENT, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, HERE IT IS AND THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT.
IF THIS AND THAT IF THIS AND THAT.
SO THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY, I MEAN, I THINK THE DOCUMENT AS IT IS, IS GOOD, IS GOOD TO APPROVE MM-HMM
AS LONG AS WE GET THOSE OTHER THINGS.
UM, BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST ONE PERSON ON THE BOARD, SO, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? NO, I WOULD IF YOU, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, I'LL SECOND IT.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD THEN AND JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, HOLD ON.
APPROVE RESOLUTION, H-E-D-C-R 2025 DASH ONE 30 APPROVING THE FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM OR THE, UH, FACADE GRANT PROGRAM TO SUPPORT THE CORRESPONDING LINE ITEM IN THE CORPORATION'S FISCAL YEAR 2026.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN.
AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO.
CAN YOU CALL VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER THOMPSON AYE.
5 0 7 0.4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION, HEDC DASH R DASH 2025 DASH 1 31.
APPROVING SIGNATURE AUTHORITY FOR ALL OFFICERS OF A CORPORATION FOR DOCUMENTS TO INCLUDE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, ANY OTHER APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS REQUIRED TO FACILITATE THE CONTINUED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
SO THIS REQUEST IS REALLY TO HELP FACILITATE, UM, AND EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE REQUESTS.
AS THE EDC IS THE LAND OWNER OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS KIND OF IN THIS DUE DILIGENCE AND PLANNING PROCESS THAT DO REQUIRE THE OWNERS, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE.
AND SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY ON WHO CAN SIGN THOSE DOCUMENTS, UH, AGAIN, TO HELP EXPEDITE, UM, I'VE REQUESTED THAT, UM, ALL OFFICERS BE AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THESE, UH, APPLICATIONS AND REQUESTS.
UM, ALSO JUST WANTED TO NOTATE THAT NONE OF THESE DOCUMENTS WOULD, UM, IMPACT THE LAND, LAND VALUE OR ANY OTHER ASSET OF THE CORPORATION, NOR WOULD THEY INCUR ANY EXPENSES.
WOULD YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YEAH, SO A COUPLE OF OF EXAMPLES WERE PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM LANGUAGE.
SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY UPDATE, UM, THE, UH, MIDWAY IS PLANNING TO SUBMIT THEIR SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, AND THAT'S GONNA BE BASED OFF OF, UM, THEIR PLANNED USES.
AND SO THAT TELLS THEM WHEN THE CITY FEELS THAT THEY COULD SERVE THAT SITE WITH UTILITIES SUCH AS WATER AND WASTEWATER.
UM, SO THAT HELPS THEM PLAN, UM, THEIR KIND OF TIMELINES AND PHASING OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS GIVEN IN THE, UH, AGENDA LANGUAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR PUD.
UM, THAT IS, UH, EFFECTIVELY LIKE A, A VARIANCE APPLICATION.
SO IT STILL HAS TO GET REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S MERELY THE APPLICATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
UH, AND THAT ALSO REQUIRES A, UM, A PROPERTY OWNER'S SIGNATURE.
IN, IN PARAGRAPH THREE OF THE RESOLUTION, THERE ARE, UM, A FEW EXAMPLES WHICH INCLUDE TEMPORARY RIGHTS OF ACCESS.
SO IF WE NEED TO ALLOW LIKE A SURVEYOR ON THE PROPERTY YEAH.
SERVICE EXTENSION, REQUEST PLANNING DEVELOPMENT, AND OTHER SIMILAR TYPES OF DOCUMENTS.
THE ONE THAT, UM, I JUST WANTED MORE CLARIFICATION ON, I GUESS WOULD BE WITH MIDWAY, UM, THAT THEY NEEDED OR WE NEEDED MORE TIME FOR THE, UM, WHAT IS IT TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION.
UM, WHAT, WHAT LANGUAGE DID YOU GUYS USE FOR MIDWAY EXTENSION? BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO CONTRACT WITH THEM, THAT WE JUST NEEDED MORE LIKE AN EXTENSION OF FIGURING OUT SQUARE FOOTAGE, WATER, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
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WELL, IT, I MEAN, WHATEVER THE DUE DILIGENCE DISCUSSION STOCK DOCUMENT IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, IT WOULD BE MM-HMMSOMETHING THAT DOES NOT MAKE A MATERIAL EXCHANGE OF VALUE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EXPENDITURE OF ANY NATURE.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE, UM, MECHANISMS BY WHICH TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS, DUE DILIGENCE TO GO FORWARD.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE NOT RELATED TO COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES? THAT'S CORRECT.
I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT OUT THERE.
I'M JUST
18 MONTHS TO GET DUE DILIGENCE DONE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, I HEAR YOU.
WAIT EVERY MONTH FOR OUR MEETING DONE, I LISTED NUMBER TWO UPFRONT TO FACILITATE THE COMPLETION OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ANYONE? ANYONE I MOVE, WE APPROVE, UH, RESOLUTION H-E-D-C-R 20 25 1 31, APPROVING SIGNATURE AUTHORITY FOR ALL OFFICERS OF THE CORPORATION FOR DOCUMENTS TO INCLUDE SERVICE EXTENSION, REQUEST PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT, APPLICATION, AND ANY OTHER APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS REQUIRED TO FACILITATE THE CONTINUED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER IRMA GONZALEZ.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO.
CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER MCLAUGHLIN AYE.
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO ITEM EIGHT, EXECUTIVE SESSION 8.1, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ATTENDANCE.
THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER ANY REQUESTS FROM ELIGIBLE PARTIES TO ATTEND ALL OR A PORTION OF THE FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE SESSION OTHER THAN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE CORPORATION'S LEGAL COUNSEL, AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CORPORATION TO BE ELIGIBLE, A PERSON ATTENDING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, ONE MUST HAVE INTERESTS THAT ARE NOT AVERSE TO THE CORPORATION, AND TWO, THEIR PARTICIPATION IS NECESSARY TO DELIBERATE ON THE MATTER TO BE CONSIDERED.
IF THE ITEM IS TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE.
THE BOARD MUST ALSO FIND THE PERSON'S PRESENCE WILL NOT WAIVE THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
THE BOARD WILL NOW ENTERTAIN ANY REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, OH, GO AHEAD.
UH, JIM MORRIS, UH, REQUESTS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ATTENDANCE.
MR. MOR, OR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT, OR IS IT? COUNCIL MEMBER.
SINCE YOU'RE A COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT, YOU'RE STILL A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND NOT PART OF THE GOVERNING BODY, AND SO YOU WOULD NOT BE, UH, ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE UNTIL YOU'RE A ACTUAL COUNCIL MEMBER.
I, I, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
GOOD EVENING, EVAN PORTERFIELD, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND, UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY CONCERN WITH REGARD TO ADVERSE, UM, POSITIONS, UH, AS TO FRONT, UH, CORPORATION ON THE ITEMS TO BE CONSIDERED? NO, SIR, I DO NOT.
AND SINCE HE'S A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY, UH, HE WOULD NOT VIOLATE, UM, THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND SO, UH, HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE MM-HMM
SO DO WE HAVE TO, UM, MOVE, WE NEED A MOTION, PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO INCLUDE EVAN PORTERFIELD? YES, PLEASE.
AND WE, I MOVE, WE PERMIT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD TO ATTEND EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MATTMAN AND SECONDED BY A BOARD MEMBER IRMA GONZALEZ.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO.
CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? VICE CHAIRMAN MINTON AYE.
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8.2.THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS TO THE OPEN MEETING AND RECONVENE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 5 5 1 0 7 2 REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE UPON AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING ONE ROVA VERSUS HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PENDING IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY COURT OR DISTRICT COURT AND THE FOLLOWING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, PROJECT MAESTRO, THE SPINE ROAD, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE MEGASITE PROJECT, PROJECT TITAN PROJECT STRAT THREE PROJECT FLEX PROJECT CUT HOSPITALITY PROJECT JPD, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES IN ANY RELATED INCENTIVES, CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY BY THE TYPE B CORPORATION AND THE EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR INCENTIVES.
AND WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM NINE, ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION 9.1.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R 2025 DASH 1 22 APPROVING A LAND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT MAESTRO.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RELU, OR SORRY, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH 2025 DASH 1 22 APPROVING A LAND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT MAESTRO AS WRITTEN.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN AND SECONDED IN BY BOARD MEMBER ERMA GONZALEZ.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN YOU CALL A VOTE PLEASE? CHAIR CLANCY AYE.
BOARD MEMBER MINTON, OR I'M SORRY, VICE CHAIRMAN MINTON.
CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO RECALL, UH, PROJECT JPD FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND THEN, UH, I MOVE, WE POSTPONE, UH, PROJECT JPD TO OCTOBER, 2025 TO ALLOW 12 MONTHS OF SALES TAX INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE INCENTIVE REQUESTED AND OBTAIN CLARIFICATION, UH, ON ENFORCEMENT OF LOCAL ORDINANCES RAISED FROM THE CITY.
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MATT MITTEN AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KELLY MCLAUGHLIN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CAN YOU PLEASE CALL A VOTE VICE CHAIR? MINTON AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 10, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? JUST THE ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT, YES, MA'AM.
THE TA DIDN'T WE, UH, DO WE NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UH, GETTING THE, A, A DRAFT FINANCIAL STATEMENT? NO.
THE TIME IS NOW AT 10 11 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.