13.2. Consideration and possible action electing a Mayor Pro Tem pursuant to Hutto City Charter Section 3.05. (City Council)

[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

8.1. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, RE-APPOINTMENTS AND/OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. .

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, I AM A RESIDENT OF HUTTO. I WANTED TO PUT THIS ONE FORWARD BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION LAST WEEK ABOUT CHANGES. ONE THAT I HAD A QUESTION ON, THAT IS WHY I AM DOING IT IN FRONT OF THE ITEM. THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT BEING ON THREE OR FOUR BOARDS WAS NOT DESIRED. MY QUESTION IS THAT APPLIES TO TWO PEOPLE AS OF 4:30 THIS AFTERNOON ONE PERSON WAS ON THREE BOARDS, ONE WAS ON FOUR, THIS GUY. SO, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE YOU GOING TO DECIDE WHAT BOARDS I GET TO PARTICIPATE IN AS A MEMBER? OR DO I MAKE THAT

DECISION? THAT IS MY QUESTION. >> I WOULD SAY, ONE, WE HAVE NOT DECIDED ON THAT. IT IS JUST A DISCUSSION POINT. I WOULD SAY THAT MY OPINION IS THAT IF IT WAS DECIDED TO BE TWO WAS THE LIMIT I WOULD SAY THAT DECISION WOULD BE YOURS.

>> ACTUALLY, I THINK WE WOULD BE FORCING OURSELVES TO MAKE THE

DECISION. >> JUST MY OPINION ON IT. THERE ARE MORE THAN A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON TWO. WE HAD QUITE A FEW APPLICATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO SERVE ON THREE OR FOUR. NOT THAT THEY ARE IN THAT POSITION. FOR ME IT WAS JUST A MIND SET OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING A DIVERSE THOUGHT. YOU IN PARTICULAR YOU DEFINITELY GIVE GREAT INPUT FOR THE BOARDS THAT YOU SERVE. I PERSONALLY WAS NOT PINPOINTING ANYONE IN PARTICULAR BUT JUST SEEING IT AS A WHOLE FROM A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE INPUT FROM MORE PEOPLE. SO, IF WE, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU

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FORCE THAT AND NOT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO PICK WHO GOES WEAR NECESSARILY, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DO WHAT -- WE WILL DO WHAT WE DO NOW, GO TO THE BOARD CHAIR. OBVIOUSLY GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND OF COURSE WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER METRICS. IT REALLY JUST FROM THAT STANDPOINT IT IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SERVE, CREATING THE OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE HAD BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WERE A LITTLE LIGHT AND THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE DID EXLEAPT WORK TO GET THAT BACK IN ON TRACK. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS A SIGNED TO A SUBCOMMITTEE AND CHAIR SUBSEQUENTLY. FOR ME IT IS JUST A MATTER OF KEEPING FRESH INPUT. YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IN MY OPINION, PEOPLE FEEL BAD. I HAVE TIME, I CAN DO IT. THAT IS GREAT, I APPRECIATE THAT, I LOVE THE COMMITMENT BUT, FOR ME IT IS LIKE IF WE CAN FORCE THAT AND REALLY GET PEOPLE, HAVE A PUSH TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE AS A HIGHER CAPACITY WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT IS REALLY WHERE

I WAS GOING WITH IT. >> AND TO YOUR POINT ONE OF THE BOARDS THAT I AM ON I HAPPEN TO BE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN HEY, WHO WANTS TO BE ON THE BOARD? AND THEY JUST POINTED THEIR FINGER AT ME. SURE. OKAY. BUT, I GET YOUR POINT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON IS IT GOING TO BE A COUNCIL DECISION OR IS IT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MY INPUT? I THINK I AM THE ONLY ONE NOW WHO IS ON MORE THAN TWO.

>> I WOULD ALSO SAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT APPLIES TO. THERE ARE FEW BOARDS THAT MEET RARELY FOR AN AS-NEEDED BASIS AND WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW UP EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS NOT BEEN A MEETING IN SIX MONTHS. THAT CUTS ON THAT. THAT WILL APPLY TO SOME OF YOUR BOARDS. YOU ARE ON A BOARD A

WHILE. >> YES, YES.

>> I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM THAT, YES, I WANT TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON AND NO, I DON'T WANT ONE PERSON TO SERVE ON SIX BOARDS IF WE CAN AVOID IT. BUT, THERE IS A LITTLE REALITY TO IT.

>> GREAT. THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS IT FOR 8.1. >> FORMER MEMBER CLARK HAS NOT BEEN ATTENDING LGC AND MEETINGS THAT I KNOW OF THAT I HAVE ATTENDED MYSELF. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE RANDALL CLARK FROM THE COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND RIVER CREEK, CHURCH BOARD NUMBER TWO AND THREE AND NOMINATE COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS FOR THOSE SAME POSITIONS.

>> OH, LUCKIY YOU. COTTONWOOD, RIVER CREEK, AND THE SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND, MOTION BY THORNTON.

ANY DISCUSSION? DO YOU ACCEPT? >> YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. CALL THE VOTE.

QUESTION PASSES, 5-0. >> ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION. LUMP IT ALL HERE IN ONE THE FIRST ONE IS, WE DID DO INTERVIEW THE OTHER EVENING AND WE HAVE INTERVIEWED PEOPLE IN THE PAST. SO, FOR PNJ TO REPLACE MORRIS I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NORMAN DELAY. HE WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVE FRIDAY A BOARD FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR PNZ -- HE WAS INTERVIEWED PREVIOUSLY.

>> WHAT WAS HAD ON, THE OTHER ONE?

>> ZBA. CURRENTLY. HE WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT ONE AND MOVED OVER TO PNZ. AND THEN WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TWO OPENINGS FOR THE ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION, INTERVIEWED THREE PEOPLE, SELECTED TWO. TO REPLACE, AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JANE WRINKLE, SHE WAS THE THIRD INTERVIEWER WHO WAS NOT SELECTED AT THAT TIME BUT STILL WILLING

TO SERVE. >> OKAY. AND LASTLY, WE INTERVIEWED MORALES AND MITTENS TERM ENDS THIS MONTH HERE IN A

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FEW DAYS AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND HER TO TAKE THE PLACE

OF MITTENS ON EZ. >> OKAY IS THAT IT?

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> A SECOND.

>> I SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL JUST SAY THIS. I DON'T KNOW, NORMAN, I KNOW JANE. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HER BEING ON IT. SHE WILL CALL ANYBODY OUT IF SHE THINKS THEY ARE DOING WRONG. AND THEN, PERSONALLY I AM EXCITED FOR MORALES. I DO KNOW SHE LIVES IN HUTTO, SHE IS ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, A COMMERCIAL BROKER. AND WHEN I MET WITH HER AND THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED ARE YOU OKAY NOT DOING ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL DEALS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO? BECAUSE QUICKLY FIND THAT TO BE A HOT CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. SHE LOVED HUTTO MORE THAN DEALS IN HUTTO. SO, WHAT MAKES ME EXCITED ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM IS SOME EXPERIENCE. AND HER KNOWING THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR I THINK IT WILL HELP US A LOT WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO ATTRACT DIFFERENT CLIENTS IF IT BE IN THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE OR COMMERCIAL SPACE. HAVING SOMEONE WHO KNOWS KIND OF THE INSIDE. WE HAD THAT ONCE BEFORE WITH VICTOR, HENRY, A VERY BIG ASSET. I AM HOPING SHE MAKES THIS. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

. >> PASSES 5-0. AND OTHER ITEMS

[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD).]

FOR 8 .1. OKAY.

8.2. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS OR UPDATES FROM CITY COUNCIL SUB-COMMITTEES. .

>> ONE WAS CANCELED LAST WEDNESDAY. WE DID NOT MEET.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE HERE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

[9.1. Presentation and discussion related to the proposed Epitome Public Improvement Development Agreement project. (Sara Cervantes)]

9.1. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED EPITOME PUBLIC NEXT. IMPROVEMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROJECT.

>> MAYOR, SARA CAVANTES FOR THE RECORD. WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE REDUCING THEMSELVES ON THE RECORD REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A SECOND PRESENTATION, THERE IS A SECOND ITEM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORY, HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY POP UP AND NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE WILL PUSH IT TO THE NEXT MEETING SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON HAND BUT FOR NOW WE WILL GIVE YOU THE PRESENTATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. WE ARE THE OWNER OF A 40ER ACRE TRACK OF LAND ON 130.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN -- THE BIG BUTTON. THERE WE GO. AS I SAID IT IS A 40 ACRE TRACK. NOT CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY. SO WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU ALL IS THE PRESENTATION AND REQUEST TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INVOLVES ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN IT IS THE LOCATION OF THE TRACK. NORTH OF THE LOOP ON THE EAST SIDE OF 130. AGAIN, IT IS CURRENTLY NOT IN THE CITY.

AGAIN, WHAT WE PRESENTED AND WORKING WITH STAFF FOR SOME TIME IS THE AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES MATTERS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN. I AM HITTING THE WRONG BUTTON. I AM SORRY. SO, RIGHT NOW WE ARE CONTEMPLATING AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH NUMEROUS INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS BUILT OVER PHASES AND TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT IS JUST A SAMPLING HERE. THIS IS THE OLD VERSION, NONETHELESS, YOU CAN SEE A SAMPLING OF THE TYPES OF THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT WE ENVISION BEING BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY. WE DON'T ENVISION IT TO BE A FAMILY SITE. ONE POINT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING THAT. THIS IS HERE. THERE IS A PROVISION AS A POTENTIAL LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE A USE. THAT IS NOT OUR ONGOING PLAN OF ATTACK, AT THE MOMENT. MY GOODNESS THIS IS THE WRONG ONE. THAT IS OKAY.

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THIS IS KIND OF A VISION OF THE SITE HERE IT IS THE WRONG IMAGE, THOUGH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT NONETHELESS, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AGAIN, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT NOT ONLY CONTEMPLATES LAND USE AND ANNEXATION AND CREATION OF FID IS PART OF THAT REQUEST AS WELL AND THE EXTENSION OF CITY SERVICES THAT WE WOULD DO AS PART OF THE PROJECT. SO, WE HAVE BASICALLY A BIG PART OF THE AGREEMENT INVOLVES THE EXTENSION OF THE SANITARY SEWER LINE OR WASTE WATERLINE UP TO THE SITE.

IT IS, AGAIN, NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY. THIS IMAGE GIVES YOU VERY BASIC OVERVIEW OF THE LINK AND THE ROUTE OF THAT SANITARY SEWER LINE. ONE OF THE REASONS THIS PROJECT HAS TAKEN SO LONG WAS TO SECURE THE EAVESMENT TO BUILD THE LINE. WE NOW HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WHICH IS NOW TSTC. THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PRIOR OWNERS THEY WENT UNDER CONTRACT WHICH DELAYED THE ACQUISITION OF IT FOR AWHILE. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE THE EAVESMENT. THAT IS WHY IT IS COMING TO YOU ALL NOW VERSUS A YEAR AGO. THIS WOULD BE FUNDED BY US AND OR THE FID. THIS EXTENSION OF THE SANITARY SEWER LINE. I THINK FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IT WOULD OPEN UP OTHER USES. IT HAS BEEN EFFECTIVELY DESIGNED AND REVIEWED BY THE CITY. IT WAS JUST NOT APPROVED PENDING THE EASEMENT, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET STARTED BUILDING THAT. THIS PROJECT IS SERVED BY JONO WATER NOT THE CITY OF HUTTO FOR WATER SERVICES, SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO GET THE NECESSARY WATER FOR THE PROPERTY. ANOTHER BIG PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAYS.

THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY ROADWAYS THAT ARE ON THE CITY'S MASTER MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO BUILD. ONE IS THE MISSING LINK, I CALL IT THE MISSING LINK HERE. HIGHWAY 130 FEEDER ROAD. THERE IS A GAP LITERALLY IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY. SO, WE ARE ENDEAVORING TO BUILD THAT. THAT IS A MINOR COLLECTOR HERE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD THAT THROUGH.

EFFECTIVELY DIVIDES OUR PROJECT INTO TWO PARCELS. AGAIN, THERE IS ALL BEING DONE THROUGH US, THE CITY; SORRY, NOT THE CITY, AND HOPEFULLY OVER TIME WHEN WE HAVE THE BUILT OUT THE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THE PROPERTY AND THE TAXES THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT. AS OF TODAY YOU ARE GETTING NONE. AGAIN, NOT IN THE CITY. WE WOULD BASICALLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION AND COOPERATION AND ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT VIA THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ANNEXING INTO THE CITY. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT OR US

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?

. >> I WILL START IT. IT GETS

PEOPLE GOING. >> SIR.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES. ONE MORE. ONE MORE.

RIGHT THERE. SO, FOR ME, I THINK UP IN THAT AREA THIS IS A GOOD USE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT, NOTHING CREATES TRAFFIC MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, 1,000 HOMES. SO, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE WANTING PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK HERE. WILL WANTING TO SEE JOBS ADDED, VALUE ADDED. YOU GUYS ARE, I UNDERSTAND, YOU ARE LOOKING TO FUND THE WASTE WATER EXTENSION ON YOUR DIME. THAT IS EVERYBODY'S WISH. SO WE GOT THAT.

>> RIGHT >>AND YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE ON YOUR DIME, THAT IS A PLUS. WE PUSHED FOR THAT AND YOU GUYS DON'T NEED HUTTO WATER, THAT IS A PLUS. YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

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>> YES, SIR. >> AND THERE IS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WHERE WE ARE GETTING 10% BACK THAT WE CAN REINVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS THERE.

>> YES, SIR. >> FOR ME I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I HOPE WE GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT QUICKLY.

IT IS STANDARD WHERE IT IS, YOU GUYS TAKE WHAT WE GIVE YOU. AS LONG AS WE HIT BULLET POINTS WE COME TO TERMS QUICKLY.

>> YES, SIR. >> EXCITED FOR THIS. ESPECIALLY HAVING THE ROAD EXTENSIONS, ROADS PUT IN, INFRASTRUCTURE WE

ARE NOT PAYING FOR. >> THIS ONE FEELS LIKE $1 BILLION FOR US. A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE 48 ACRE TRACK. THAT IS THE NEED AND THE HEALTH OF THE BID.

>> WHEN THE AGREEMENT COMES UP, PROBABLY WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO

HITCH ON THERE. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> HOPEFULLY THAT IS VERY SOON. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT SOON. WE ARE EAGER TO GET IT DONE. WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME. WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE AGREE. WE THINK THAT IT IS FAIRLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY. HOPEFULLY IT IS A WIN/WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

>> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> FOR ME, LOOKING AT THE FOURTH BULLET DOWN IT SAYS USE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL

DEVELOPMENTS. >> YES, SO, WHEN WE DRAFTED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IT IS GOING TO BE, THE PLAN IS WHEN IT GETS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IT WILL BE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

WE JUST HAD IN THEIR THE ABILITY TO USE DIFFERENT LAND USES TO CREATE FLEXIBILITY FOR OURSELVES IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, MARKETS CHANGE, CONDITIONS CHANGE, SENTIMENTS CHANGE, BUT RIGHT NOW OUR INTENT, WE BELIEVE IT IS BETTER SUITED FOR INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN, THAT IS THE MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON DESIGN AND SO FORTH.

THAT IS THE PATH WE ARE HEADED DOWN TODAY.

>> OKAY. FOR ME, PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, HUTTO IS THE 13TH FASTEST-GROWING CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. YOU KNOW, I FEEL WE NEED TO PUMP THE BRAKES ON HOW FAST WE ARE GROWING. AND LET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR ROADS CATCH UP. MY CONCERN WAS ALSO WITH THE WATER AND WASTE WATER. THAT IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.

WHAT IS ATTRACTIVE TO ME, THOUGH, IS THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF IT. BY BRINGING INDUSTRIAL IN IT IS GIVING MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS WITH JOBS. THEY CAN WORK HERE LOCALLY AND NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, OUT FAR.

THAT IS JUST MY PERSPECTIVE. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE CERTAINLY AGREE ON THE EMPLOYMENT BASE. THAT IS NEEDED AND WE THINK IT IS GREAT FOR THE CITY. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. WE FEEL WE ARE HELPING SOLVE THOSE BY EXTENDING ROADS ON OUR NICKEL AND ON OUR DIME TO BUILD THOSE, CERTAINLY THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY.

I THINK IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE IN HELPING MOBILITY INCREASE OVER TIME. AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT A BIG LINE. IT A LONG LINE THAT WE ARE OFFERING TO FUND. SO, WE THINK THAT HELPS THE CITY AS WELL. ALLEVIATES THE BURDEN. WE HAVE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF QUITE A BIT ON THE UTILITY CAPACITY ISSUES. WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THE ONGOINGS WITH SEWER CAPACITY.

THAT HAS BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP NOT HURT. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> THE QUESTION, IF WE CAME BACK AND SAID WE ARE OKAY BUT IT HAS TO BE INDUSTRIAL AND MARKET CHANGE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US, DOES THAT CAUSE YOU GUYS .

>> IT ALWAYS GIVES US A LITTLE HEARTBURN BECAUSE WE HAVE A HEAVY INVESTMENT HERE AND WE NEED TO SELL TO THE MARKET. AND AS THE MARKET SHIFTS, YOU KNOW, JUST TWO YEARS AGO MULTIFAMILY WAS IT, RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE NEEDED AND WANTED AND DESIRED. THAT HAS WANED. WE DO BELIEVE, JUST NATURALLY, WHERE IT IS SUITED WE THINK THE MARKET WILL ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO INDUSTRIAL OR SOME COMMERCIAL USE WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER ALLOWED PROPOSED LAND USE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. NOT JUST

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MULTIFAMILY OR INDUSTRIAL IT IS ALSO COMMERCIAL, JUST GIVING US THAT FLEXIBILITY. AGAIN, DEVELOPED IN TIME AND PHASES AT LEAST THAT IS HOW WE ENVISION IT NOW. WE PLAN TO START ON THE FIRST FACE WITH AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. AS A DEVELOPER WHO SINKS IN A LOT OF MONEY INTO A PROJECT OBVIOUSLY WE PREFER TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE ASSET. WE UNDERSTAND AND HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH HEARTBURN? A LITTLE BIT OR NOT GOING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT? WE LIKE IT WHEN DEVELOPERS DON'T SLEEP

WELL. >> TRUST US, WE ARE NOT SLEEPING WELL. WE HAVE A LOT TIED UP IN THIS, WE NEED, WE NEED SOME AGREEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT. CERTAINLY, LOOK, WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER. WE WANT TO TAKE IN YOUR FEEDBACK. WE WILL CONSIDER ANYTHING YOU GUYS TELL US, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALLEVIATE

CONCERNS YOU GUYS HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[9.1. (a) Presentation and discussion related to the proposed Epitome Public Improvement District. (Sara Cervantes)]

>> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THE TERM.

>> WE ARE GOING TO PUSH THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING. I WANT TO POINT OUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS IN FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF THAT. JULY 10TH WE WILL MOVE IT

TO THE NEXT PHASE. >> AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T SEE WHERE WE GOT ANY EXHIBITS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT WILL BE HARD FOR THE COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE THOSE EXHIBITS TO PRINT THOSE OUT.

[9.2. Presentation on recommended updates to Code of Ordinances for pothole mitigation. (Ronee Huerta)]

>> PERFECT. I WILL HAVE THEM READY FOR Y'ALL.

>> NEXT 9.1. (A) PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED EPITOME PUBLIC 9.2. PRESENTATION ON RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR POTHOLE MITIGATION. .

>> I KNOW THAT PART OF THE BACK BUILDING. --

. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS RONEE HUETA, I HAVE BEEN WITH THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME HERE TONIGHT. WE WERE ASKED TO REVISIT OUR CURRENT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE WITH POTHOLES ON PRIVATE PARKING LOTS. UPDATING WORDING AND ENFORCEMENT. THE UPDATE WILL GIVE MITIGATION CHANGES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. THERE IS OUR CURRENT CODE THAT WE USE TO ENFORCE SIDEWALKS. WALKWAYS, STAIRS, DRIVEWAYS, PARKING SPACES AND SIMILAR AREAS TO KEEP THEM IN PROPER STATE OF REPAIR AND PLAIN TAIN FROM HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR POTHOLES IS, ONCE A HAZARD IS REPORTED OR ONE IS OBSERVED ONE OF OUR INSPECTORS WILL GO OUT, OBSERVE IT, SEND A NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. THEY ARE GIVEN 10-14 DAYS TO COME INTO VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE UNLESS THEY HAVE MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE COSTLY REPAIRS. IF THE VIOLATION REMAINS A CITATION IS ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND MOVED TO MUNICIPAL COURT. THE NEW PROPOSED AMENDMENT WORDING WILL REWORD THE CODE IN A WAY THAT WILL GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS FOUR DAYS TO COME INTO A TEMPORARY COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEMPORARY FILLER. THAT WAY IT GIVES THEM MORE TIME TO GET A PERMANENT FILLER PUT IN TO PROPERLY FIX THE POTHOLE. IT ALLEVIATES THE HAZARD CONDITION IN A TIMELY MANNER. NEW PROPOSED WORDING GIVING OWNERS 96 HOURS TO COMPLETE A FIX, TEMPORARY FIX IS THE USE OF A HOT MIX, ASPHALT OR HMAC OR A COLD PATCH TO MITIGATE FURTHER HAZARDS. GIVING THE PROPERTY OWNER 30-DAYS TO COMPLETE A PERMANENT FIX BEFORE A CITATION IS ISSUED. I AM SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE POTHOLE BEHIND CHASE BANK LIKE YOU MENTIONED, I BELIEVE THAT IS LAST YEAR. THAT IS WHAT A PERMANENT FIX LOOKS LIKE. DEEPER

PROCESS THAN A TEMPORARY FILLER. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

COUNCIL? >> THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WHEN I REQUESTED THIS. WE HAD THE SITUATIONS THAT SOME OF THEM DRAGGED ON FOR WELL OVER A MONTH. AND, I KNOW SOMETIMES IT WAS PEOPLE WAITING TO GET A CONTRACTOR IN TO DO THE FIX.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE PUBLIC IN THE MEANTIME SO PEOPLE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, LOSING TIRES IN A PARKING LOT

THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH. >> RIGHT.

>> THE OTHERS THAT ARE FAMILIAR ARE USED TO SWERVING AROUND ALL

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OF THE POTHOLES AND IT MIGHT CREATE OTHER PROBLEMS, SO. THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. SOMETHING TO ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT WAS NOT GOING TO PUT A HUGE BURDEN ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT MAKE THEM BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING COSTLY THAT WOULD MITIGATE IT UNTIL THEY CAN FIX

IT. >> THIS WOULD EFFECT EVERY BUSINESS THE SAME FROM HOME DEPOT TO LOWES DOWN TO THE PRIVATE OWNER. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ENOUGH TIME, REASONABLY FOR THEM TO GET A TEMPORARY FIX.

>> WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PERSON HAD TO DO A

TEMPORARY FIX? >> BEFORE WE DID NOT HAVE TEMPORARY FIX. JUST COME INTO COMPLIANCE. THE WAY THE CODE WAS WORDED ANY TYPE OF FILLER THEY PUT IN WOULD ALLEVIATE THE HAZARD AND I WOULD HAVE TO CLOSEOUT THE CASE AS IN COMPLIANCE. THIS WOULD DRAW OUT AN EXACT FIX, WHAT WILL BE

EXPECTED. >> BEFORE. OKAY, SERGEANT DAVIS, PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THEY COULD FILL IT WITH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. THEY WOULD CLOSE IT, LIKE SAND.

>> PUT A TRAFFIC CONE IN THERE AND SAND.

>> EXACTLY. >> IT GIVES US BEEFIER --

>> MORE TEETH. >> FOR THE CODE THAT MAKES IT WHAT A TEMPORARY FIX IS. WHAT YOU CAN USE FOR A TEMPORARY FIX.

>> MY CONCERN IS 96 HOURS, ONE, IS THAT BUSINESS DAYS OR JUST 96

HOURS? >> I WOULD SAY BUSINESS DAYS, ESPECIALLY SINCE CODE IS NOT HERE ON THE WEEKEND. I WOULD SAY

BUSINESS DAYS. >> OKAY. WE WOULD WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. I WORK FOR A LARGE CORPORATION. YOU SENT A NOTICE IT GOES TO AN ENTIRE DIFFERENT CITY AND DEPARTMENT. AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY GET IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CHECK THEIR P.O.

BOX EVERY DAY. THEY GET IT, CYCLES BACK THROUGH WE LOST A DAY OR TWO AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO GET ASPHALT, LIKE AN ASPHALT PATCH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MORE 7-10 DAYS. I WANT THE TEMPORARY FIX BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING I AM OUT BIDDING IT. AND THE OTHER THING IS A PROJECT LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT PICTURE THAT MIGHT NOT GET DONE IN 30-DAYS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE BID IT OUT. AND, SO, I LIKE THE POLICY IF WE CAN EXTEND THE TIMING A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT NOW, I WOULD NOT BE, I THINK WE ARE ASKING PRIVATE BUSINESS TO MOVE FASTER THAN THE CITY CAN EVEN MOVE. AND, SO, WE SHOULD BE ON THE SAME LEVEL TO WHERE I AM NOT SAYING JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE 30-DAYS WE HAVE TO BID, BUT, A BIG PROJECT LIKE THAT MAY TAKE, IT MAY TAKE A MONTH OR TWO TO GET A COMPANY TO DO IT.

ESPECIALLY LIKE ON A BUSINESS WITH LANDLORDS LIKE IN BEVERLY HILLS, I HAVE TO TRACK THEM DOWN, THAT IS IF THEY DID NOT GET IT. AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT. SO, OUTSIDE OF THAT, MAYBE, A 7 DAY WINDOW FOR TEMPORARY FIX AND MAYBE. OR IF IT IS A 30-DAY WITH YOUR DISCRETION. THEY AT LEAST HAVE TO CONSULT YOU AND TELL YOU THE PLAN OF ACTION. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE SCREWING AROUND AND WAITING 60 DAYS. I WOULD RATHER LIKE, I NEED TO CALL AND PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL Y'ALL AND SAY THIS IS THE SITUATION. WE WANT TO FIX IT. HERE IS WHAT WE

GOT TO DO. >> WE CAN REWORD IT TO ADD IT.

ADDITIONAL TIME. >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS PLAY NOT SHARE THAT SAME CONCERN?

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. REASONABLE TO SAY 96 MIGHT BE TIGHT, SOMETIMES. SO, MAYBE SEVEN-DAYS, 10 DAYS, WHATEVER, YOU WANT A SHORT TERM FIX AND THEN I THINK LEAVING IT AT 30 BUT ADDING IN SOMETHING WHERE IF IT IS GOING TO BE BEYOND 30 THEY CAN ASK PERMISSION TO EXTEND IT AND THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPORARY PATCH DURING THAT TIME. WHATEVER IT IS. AND THEY CAN GET THAT SIGNED OFF. IF THERE IS A WAY THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT DEFAULT STILL 30-DAYS. MOST OF THE TIME STILL APPROPRIATE.

THAT SITUATION WAS KIND OF EXTREME.

>> YOU DID A HECK OF A JOB. I THOUGHT WE WOULD NEVER GET HOME DEPOT TO FIX OR THEIR LANDLORD IN SOME INCIDENTS TO FIX A POTHOLE LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS HOME DEPOT.

>> IT WASN'T. >> THE SHOPPING CENTER OWNER.

SURE ENOUGH, THEY ARE OUT THERE DIGGING IT ALL UP. SOME FROM

HUTTO GOT AHOLD OF THEM QUICK. >> THE REASON THAT TOOK AS LONG AS IT DID IS HOW THRONG TOOK TO TRACK DOWN THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER. A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ARE JUST RENTERS AND THAT IS A LOT OF PARCELS IN HOME DEPOT'S PARKING LOT. NOT JUST OWNED BY HOME DEPOT. FIGURING OUT WHICH IS WHICH AND WHO IS THE

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RENTER'S LANDLORD, IT TOOK SOME TIME.

>> MAYOR? >> YES.

>> I WORKED WITH PD ON THIS BASED ON COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON'S CONCERNS, THIS IS JUST DRAFT WORDING. I WOULD SUGGEST COUNCIL THROWS UP THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE PROPOSED WORDING AND COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION ON WHAT THEY WANT CHANGED. A FORMAL PROCESS IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH TO BE AMENDED COMPLETELY. THERE IS JUST FOR YOU ALL TO SEE IT AT FIRST GLANCE AND GO THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS TO BE CHANGED

OFFICIALLY. >> OKAY. I JUST HAD A COMMENT.

YOU SPOKE IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO FIND WHO IS THE OWNER.

>> IT DID. >> ANYTHING THE CITY OR STAFF CAN DO TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS TO ALLEVIATE THE DELAY

IN THE FUTURE? >> WE LOOKED INTO OTHER AVENUES.

WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE SOFTWARE AND DATA BASE. SOME OF IT IS THROUGH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER'S AND BUSINESS OWNERS THAT OWN THE PARCELS. IT SHOWS JIFFY LUBE AS THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. I COULD NOT FIND OUT WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF IT. WE

LOOKED AT OTHER AVENUESES. >> IT IS NOT TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING BUT ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OR COUNTY CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE IT IN THE FUTURE. NOT SAYING ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW BUT LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU. ANY ACTION ON

THIS? [INAUDIBLE] >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT Y'ALL TO BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE CHANGES, TEMPORARY FIX WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS AND A PERMANENT FIX HAS TO BE DONE WITHIN 30-DAYS UNLESS OTHERWISE, WHATEVER THE LEGAL WORDING NEEDS TO BE, OTHERWISE ALLOWED BY

Y'ALL TO EXTEND IT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT.

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS WAS NOT POSTED AS AN AGENDA, AS AN ACTION ITEM. IS THIS ACTION OKAY? THAT IS TRUE. IT IS. GOOD CATCH. SO YOU GUYS HEARD IT.

[10.1. Planning and Zoning Commission - Call to Order & Roll Call]

GOOD CATCH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT 10.1. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> WE POSTED A MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, A SEPARATE POSTING FOR THIS MEETING SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CHAIR HAS GOT THE CALL FOR HER COMMISSION TO ORDER. CALL IT TO ORDER AS WELL? I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS COMMISSION - CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL: I WILL BE PLANNING THE PLANNING AND COUNTY COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 8:01 A.M.

ROLL CALL.

SUSANNA BOYER, VICE CHAIR HAZEL SHERROD CHERYL STEWART RICHARD

HUDSON . >> WELCOME, EVERYONE.

[10.1. (a) Conduct a Joint Public Hearing and consider a recommendation to City Council for the adoption of the Unified Development Code. (Ashley Bailey)]

10.1. (A) CONDUCT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED

DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> GOOD EVENING, ASHLEY BAILEY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR. THIS IS ONE YOU HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING AND A FEW OTHER MEETINGS PLUS A WORK SESSION. I CAN GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION, WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE AS WELL. BUT, THERE IS LOOKING FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A COPY OF THAT I BELIEVE FOR THE LAST THREE MEETINGS JUST TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. LET ME KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

>> WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO SET THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING TO SATISFY THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO OPEN THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING, TAKE THE COMMENTS AND THEN CLOSE THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING. THAT WILL

SATISFY THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. >> OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COME UP

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AND SPEAK REGARDING CHANGES TO OUR UDC? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE IT AT 8:03. IS 10.1B PART OF THE APPROVAL PROS?

>> YES. UNDER STATE LAW FORWARD A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE YOU CAN ACT AS THE CITY COUNCIL. SO, THIS WOULD BE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S ITEM 10.1, B.

. >> CALL THE, READ THE AGENDA ITEM AND THEN CALL FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

[10.1. (b) Consideration and possible action by the Planning and Zoning Commission relating to a recommendation for an ordinance for the adoption of the Unified Development Code and the Engineering Criteria Manual by reference. (Ashley Bailey)]

>> OKAY. 10.1. (B) CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RELATING TO A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ORDINANCE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ENGINEERING CRITERIA MANUAL BY REFERENCE.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD. THE ENGINEER CRITERIA MANUAL IS ON CONSENT FOR RESOLUTION. YOU CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF YOUR DELIBERATION.

>> OKAY. IT IS NOT PART OF THE ORDINANCE, ADOPTING THE CODE.

>> OKAY. I AM SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID?

>> THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATION IT IS THE ORDINANCE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. THEN, THE ENGINEERING CRITERIA MANUAL THAT IS MENTIONED IN 10, B., IT IS FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA TO ADOPT BY RESOLUTION.

>> OKAY. SO THAT IS WHAT I NEED TO SAY.

OKAY. THE ENGINEERING CRITERIA MANUAL WOULD BE LOOKED AT

FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA. >> CORRECT.

>> YES. >> ITEM 10.3.

>> I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS A MOTION, A SECOND AND THEN VOTE ON RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE UDC AND THE ENGINEER CRITERIA MANUAL, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE CODE. >> YES. ENGINEERING CRITERIA MANUAL HAS BEEN SEPARATED OUT BY RESOLUTION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO CITY COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.

>> AS PRESENTED. >> AS PRESENTED. NOW YOU HAVE TO

VOTE. >> DISCUSSION.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE TAKE A VOTE. >> YES.

>> OKAY. SORRY. THIS IS, OUR FIRST TIME DOING A U D C.

>> WE WILL TAKE A VOTE.

>> ALL RIGHT, THEN YOU HAVE ITEM 10.1, C 10.1. (C) PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ADJOURN. AT 8:07.

>> LONGEST MEETING EVER. >> IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO DO A MEETING WITHIN A MEETING. YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

[10.2. Consideration and possible action by the City Council on Ordinance No. O-2025-021 adopting the Unified Development Code. (Ashley Bailey)]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU PNJZ.

>> THANK YOU. >>> NOW.

>>10.2. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON ORDINANCE NO. O-2025-021 ADOPTING THE UNIFIED

DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> ASHLEY BAILEY, AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS ITEM SEVERAL TIMES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT COULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS ITEM THAT AS THE CITY OF HUTTO THAT WE DID

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JUST GET RANKED 13TH FASTEST CITY. WE ARE STREAMLINING THE PROCESS AND PROTECTING PROPERTY. IT REMAINS A CITY OF CHOICE. WE WANT TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, EASY, MEET STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS, BUT, CERTAINLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED STANDARDS FOR LAND USE. OUR BUILDING DESIGN AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE SETTING THOSE STANDARDS FORWARD SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS WHEN YOU COME TO HUTTO AND HOW WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK SO THAT WE HAVE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. YOU DO, AGAIN, HAVE THE FULL UDC IN YOUR PACKET. IT HAS BEEN POSTED ON LINE. MINOR CHANGES, THERE WAS A FEW THINGS WITH PARKING RATIO ADDED IN DIFFERENT AREAS. THOSE HAVE BEEN ONLINE MOSTLY IN THE FORM YOU HAVE HAD IN YOUR PACKET SINCE MID-DECEMBER. YOU DID HAVE ONE PUBLIC THAT CAME IN AFTER ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ONE OF THE BUILDERS THEY WERE DISCUSSING STREET TREES, OTHER THAN THAT, WE DO HAVE THE CONSULTANT HERE IF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS ON WHAT YOU WANTED TO GO OVER IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS SINCE THE LAST TWO TIMES WE HAVE MET.

>> OKAY. TAKING QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, COMMENTS?

. >> HAS ANYBODY READ ALL 400?

>> THE BULK OF IT. I HAVE READ IT SEVERAL TIMES. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS HAS. WE HAVE HAD FIVE OR SIX SEPARATE MEETINGS ON IT TO GO AFTER CHAPTER BY CHAPTER, WELL VERSED NOT ONLY IN THE ISSUES WITH WE HAD SEEN IN THE ORIGINAL THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2010 BUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS HOW TO STREAMLINE IT. THE MAIN ONE, I THINK, I KNOW COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH WAS GOING TO BE THE LANDSCAPING SESSION. WE REVIEWED PRIOR SECTIONS OF THE CODE TO MAKE SURE WE WERE STILL GETTING SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE AND STILL MET WHAT WE HAD HEARD IN COMMENTS DURING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2023. OR JUST COMMUNITY, SURVEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE HUTTO LOOK LIKE. WE WERE STILL GETTING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, GETTING TREES, NOT AN OVER ABUNDANCE OF TREES, LOOKING AT DOING A PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT JUST TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL READ IT

AT ALL. >> OH.

>> JIM READ IT ALL. COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS.

>> OVER MANY MONTHS. >> I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THAT LINE BY LINE. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS MADE A VERY GOOD U D C. I DO THINK WE CHANGED SOME THINGS. SINGLE FAMILY, S/F GOES TO R OR N, LEGACY, NOT THAT IT IS A BIG CHANGE AND THEN N, IS A NEIGHBORHOOD HAMLET DISTRICT. I HAD TO LOOK AT A HAMLET. AS I GO THROUGH HERE SOME OF IT I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE MAKE CHANGES TO MAKE CHANGES. NOW IT IS NOT SF, SINGLE FAMILY IT IS HAMLET OR LEGACY DISTRICT. DISTRICT R. OR N., AND THEN JUST LITTLE CHANGES LIKE THAT TO WHERE WHATEVER SF2 IS NOW N1 HAMLET DISTRICT AND SOME C, SOME DO B, NOW WE ARE N2. NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE DISTRICT. ALL OF THESE LITTLE NAMES. IF I AM BEING HONEST. NOT TRYING TO BE MEAN. WE TRY TO THROW IN TERMS LIKE HAMLET, LEGACY, VILLAGE AND I AM LIKE THIS IS HUTTO. SO, WHAT IS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, BUSINESS DISTRICT, SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY. AS YOU GO THROUGH THERE, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO LOOK AT IT AND REALLY GO WHAT PROBLEMS ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE.

THEN WHAT PROBLEMS ARE WE POSSIBLY CREATING BECAUSE WE SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME IT SEEM LIKE IN CITIES THAT TRY TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT THE CODE MEANS, MOST DEVELOPERS CAN NOT FIGURE IT OUT OR THERE WOULD NOT BE SO MANY SUBMITTALS AND THEN WE PLEAD A VARIANCE, LANDSCAPE I HAVE BEEN UP HERE FOR SIX YEARS LAWYER LANDSCAPE, FOR ME, I WILL VOTE NO UNTIL MAYBE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP NOT AN HOUR ONE, TO WHERE WE GO THROUGH AND GO,

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OKAY, A SCHOOL, FOR ME, I BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE. I DON'T WANT, I DON'T LIKE THE ILA WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A ZONING CODE. I DON'T WANT TO TELL THE SCHOOL HOW TO BUILD A SCHOOL. WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A FOUR STORIES THEY HAVE AN ELECTED BOARD. THEY WILL GET YELLED AT. IT BECOMES A POLITICAL THING TO ME. WE NEED TO HOWEVER IT WAS WORDED, I WAS TALKING IT THAT ONE TIME ABOUT IF IT IS FOR ANY PUBLICLY FUNDED EDUCATIONAL FACILITY OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET THAT IS THE ZONING. I AM LOOKING TO TAKE WORK AWAY FROM WHAT WE DO INSIDE OF THE CITY AND REALLY GO TO LIKE EVERYTHING FROM WHAT KIND OF TREES? I MEAN, WE MAKE PEOPLE PUT TREES, IN THE PAST, WE MADE PEOPLE PUT TREES IN YARDS THAT WE HAVE NO BUSINESS PUTTING TREES IN THOSE YARDS.

>> THE AND THE LANDSCAPING THIS TIME FIXES A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD BEFORE AS FAR AS YOUR COMMENT ABOUT OUR LEGACY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ZONING IT ANYMORE. IT IS ALL BASED ON THE 20/40 PLAN. DO WE WANT VILLAGE ON VILLAGE CONCEPT SO EVERYBODY DOES NOT HAVE TO GET IN THEIR CARS EVERY DAY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. YOU BUILD WITHIN THAT WALKABILITY. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE CREATING THE SEPARATE DISTRICTS TO HAVE THE ABILITY OF HAVING DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES IN THERE BY RIGHT NOT A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. YES, DEVELOPER, GO FORWARD, ALL OF THE USES YOU CAN DO INCLUDING SOME COMMERCIAL SO THEY CAN GO FORWARD AND START BUILDING INSTEAD OF GOING, WELL, I WANT TO MIX, NOW YOU HAVE TO DO THIS AND THIS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THERE. IT REALLY SAYS HERE IS YOUR BLACK AND WHITE, TAKE IT AND RUN IT AND RUN WITH IT.

>> AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT. FOR ME, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGES WE CAN MAKE TO REALLY CHANGE WHAT WE ARE DOING. IT IS LIKE BE, I DID NOT LOOK AT A LOT OF THIS. I GET THROUGH 15 PAGES OF THIS, I CAN NOT READ 400 PAGES BECAUSE WE GET STUCK ON THINGS CALLED HAMLETS AND ALL OF THAT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THAT. WHEN WE GET IN THE CODES YOU HAVE CITIES, FUNDAMENTAL THING WITH ME. CITIES DICTATING TO HOME BUILDERS, LEONARD, BUILD 15,000 HOMES A YEAR WE ARE TELLING THEM HOW TO BUILD A HOME. WE ARE TELLING THEM WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. I THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS. TO ME WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FROM THE STREET AND ONCE YOU CROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALL IT SHOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER. IF THEY BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS TERRIBLE LOOKING, HERE IS WHAT PEOPLE TELL ME. THEY WANT A TOWN THAT LOOKS, SMALL TOWN FEEL. DRIVE THROUGH ANY SMALL TOWN IN TEXAS AND YOU HAVE MANY TYPES OF BUSINESSES FROM THE ICONIC DAIRY QUEEN, WHAT DO YOU GET WHETHER YOU RUN INTO A BIG CITY? ALL OF THE BUILDINGS LOOK ALIKE. A DIFFERENT SIGN. AND TO ME PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME THEY WANT AUSTIN WITHOUT THE HOMELESS AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE POLITICS. THEY WANT A FOOD TRUCK HERE, THEY WANT A CONTAINER PARK HERE, ALL OF THESE LITTLE THINGS WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CODE IS DOING WHAT THE BIG CITIES DO. MAKING EVERYBODY CONFORM, THIS IS HOW YOU WANT TO BE. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE SURVEY RESULTS, BUT THE PUBLIC THAT I HAVE TALKED TO HAS NOT TOLD ME THAT I HATE THE WAY THE WELLS FARGO LOOKS, NEXT TIME CAN IT BE A BEIGE BUILDING WITH A SMALLER SIGN. NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT SIGNS BUT BUILDERS, NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT ARCHITECTURE BUT THE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET PASSED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOUR JOB AND OUR JOBS EASIER. MY DESIRE IS FOCUS ON WHAT PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT. I WILL FINISH WITH THIS, YOU GO DOWN TO THE VALLEY, OBVIOUSLY I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. GO DOWN TO THE VALLEY AND THEY HAVE DAMN NEAR NO REGULATIONS THAT I CAN TELL.

THEY ARE BUILDING A NICE BURGER, THE CHICK-FIL-A THEY ARE NICE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT TREES BUT THEY ARE PUTTING TREES IN BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE WANTING, DEVELOPERS, THEY HAVE TO SELL IT TO THE SECONDARY MARKET. EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING WITH IS THAT THE CITIES GET N DRIVE UP THE COST BECAUSE WE START DOING THINGS THAT THEY ARE NOT WANTING. FOR ME, I HOPE WE HAVE MORE TIME TO DIGEST THIS. IF WE DO GET IT PASSED AND I GUESS WE CAN SPEND THE NEXT THREE YEARS AMENDING IT CHAPTER BY CHAPTER. HOPEFULLY TO KIND OF, EVERY TIME IT COMES UP, WHY DO YOU HAVE A PUD. MADE A SIMPLE 450 PAGE DOCUMENT JUST FOLLOW THAT. VOTE NO ON THEM GOING FORWARD.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT THIS CODE, WE WILL NOT SEE AS MANY COME THROUGH, FRANKLY, WITH THE CODE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE PLAYED. WE GAVE IT TO THE ONES THAT WERE SUBMITTING IT. THERE

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WERE SOME TYPOGRAPHICAL COMMENTS. SENDING IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS WE NORMALLY WORK WITH SUBMITTING FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WERE COMING BACK

SAYING THERE WORKS FOR US. >> AFRAID TO MAKE YOU MAD.

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE TELLING ME SAY IT IS BETTER THAN IT WAS, BUT WE STILL HAVE HOPES AND DESIRES FOR OTHER THINGS.

>> I WOULD OF HOPED THEY WOULD OF GIVEN PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DID NOT GET ANY. A LOT OF OPEN COMMENTS, EVEN OPEN HOUSES WHERE

NOBODY SHOWED UP. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

PEOPLE THAT DEVELOP WILL NOT COME TO A CITY AND START FILLING OUT IDEAS AND RATTLE CAGES AND COME BACK 30-DAYS LATER AND SUBMIT PLANS, THEY DO NOT DO THAT. THEY TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.

LIKE I HAD A CONSULTANT REACH OUT TO ME. THEY SENT A LETTER LIKE A MONTH AGO AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS NOTHING GOT

CHANGED. >> THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT DID COME IN AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS CLOSED IT WAS A MONTH AFTERWARDS. THAT WAS NOT A CONSULTANT. THAT WAS TYPOGRAPHICAL. WE STILL ACCEPTED THE COMMENTS AND MADE SOME OF THE CHANGES. BUT WE ALSO STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEADLINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE CHANGES WERE STILL ACCEPTED AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE FROM A BUILDER WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS RUNNING INTO STREET TREES, HEY, GIVE US THE INFORMATION YOU WANT TO SEE AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL. CERTAINLY AMENDABLE. THAT IS WHY WE ARE SENDING IT OUT TO LANDSCAPE ON THE PROJECTS WE WORKED WITH THAT HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE. DO YOU THINK IT WORKS WHAT DOES IT DO FOR YOU? DID WE GET IT RIGHT? DID WE GET IT WRONG?

>> SO, FIRST OFF. I AM WISHING ALL PNZ WERE HERE. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOURS, AS YOU Y'ALL DISCUSSED. PERSONALLY I HAVE NOT READ ALL OF IT. I HAVE GONE THROUGH 10 OR 15 PAGES AT A TIME. PICKING OUT WHAT I FIND RELEVANT OR IMPORTANT IF I TALKED TO A DEVELOPER, HEY, WHAT DO YOU SEE AND I PICK THAT SECTION AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH. PERSONALLY, FOR ME, YES, IT HAS BEEN ON THE DOCKET FOR SEVERAL MEETINGS NOW. FOR ME IT IS NOT, FOR ME I AM UNCOMFORTABLE ACCEPTING IT THE WAY IT IS AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE EDUCATION. PUTTING IT ON PAPER FOR ME IS NOT ENOUGH. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A JOINT SATURDAY WITH A COOLER IN HAND, WITH TEA AND GET AN EDUCATION AND DISCUSS AND REALLY SEE, I WANT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT, YES THEY WANT TO PASS IT BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DO BELIEVE IN IT AND EVERYTHING IS RIGHT BUT IS THERE AREAS MAYBE THEY WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENT? DID THEY HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON ALL OF THIS? YOU KNOW, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT IT IS 400 SOMETHING PAGES, I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE PUT A LOT OF WORDS IN THERE IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. IF WE CAN SIMPLIFY IT, THAT IS GREAT. I DO SOMEWHAT AGREE WE ARE TRYING TO AUSTINIZE EVERYTHING. WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THE BIG GUY TO THE SOUTH.

WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN THING AND TRY TO FIGHT OFF THE BIG GUY FROM THE SOUTH, SO TO SPEAK, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DEVELOP HERE. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, NECESSARILY, WITH EVERYTHING IN IT. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PIN POINT. I DO NOT HAVE MY NOTES ON MY DRIVE. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN STRESSFUL, A LOT OF HOURS. DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM

THERE. >> I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY. I DO A LOT OF WORK. INCLUDING WORK IN THE VALLEY. WHEN WE SET UP ON THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE WE HAD A SPECIFIC TARGET IN MIND. THIS TO NOT BE AN AUSTIN CODE. FOR PERSPECTIVE THE AUSTIN DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS OVER 3,000 COMBINATIONS OF ZONING DISTRICTS. YOURS HAS 10. IT IS MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT. THE REASON FOR THE KIND OF UNUSUAL ZONING NAMING IS YOUR SCREENING DISTRICTS ARE RESTRUCTURED FOR FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT PATHS THEY CAN GO DOWN. AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH DISCRETIONARY APPROVALS TO GET TO THEM. WHAT WE SET OUT WITH THAT, WE WANTED TO AVOID CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE PROJECTS HAVE TO COME BEFORE A COMMISSION OR A COUNCIL UNNECESSARILY. SO, CREATING A LOT OF DIFFERENT PATHS AND OPTIONS. THAT IS THE WHOLE

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REASON WHY THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS SHIFTED TO A POINTS BASED SYSTEM. IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF WAYS TO GET THERE. WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY WORKED OUT WITH THAT FOR EXAMPLE IS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS WE HEARD ABOUT. THEY ENDED UP WITH UNUSUAL TREE PLACEMENTS. IT RESULTED FROM YOUR OR CURRENT CODE AND UNUSUAL LANDSCAPE PLACEMENT. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE OPTIONS TO DO THINGS THAT MADE SENSE. WHEN WE DO THAT WE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY THAT WORKED IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO SAY HOW DO WE WRITE IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE ON THAT. REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OURSELVES AS WELL. FOR EXAMPLE, WE MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE AUSTIN HOME BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION FOR EXAMPLE. AND, I FORGET THE ONE THAT HAS ALL OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT OR THE COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL, I AM GOING BLANK ON THEIR NAME RIGHT NOW FOR AUSTIN. THE AUSTIN REGION. WE TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE YOUR NEEDS, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AND THOSE TYPES OF EFFORTS. PARTLY WHY YOU SEE THE UNUSUAL NAMING ZONING DISTRICT CAN DO A LOT. PICK A LOT OF PATHWAYS, FLEXIBILITY. OUR APPROACH, CERTAINTY. YOU HAVE REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET AT THE END IN TERMS OF THE BASE QUALITY. THE DEVELOPER GETS THE DISCRETION ON WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING ON THE SITE. AND, HOW THEY GO ABOUT REACHING THAT LEVEL OF QUALITY. SO, THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR THIS EFFORT. PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY, PROVIDE OPTIONS, A PATHWAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WONDER WHAT THEIR OUT COME IS GOING TO BE. ENTER INTO IT WITH CERTAINTY. ENTER INTO IT IN A WAY YOU CAN OPERATE OFF OF A SIMPLE CHECK LIST FROM THIS CODE AND GET THROUGH THIS IN A COUPLE OF REVIEWS ASSUMING THEY ARE SUBMITTING 100% DRAWINGS TO START WITH. THAT IS WHAT WE WERE AFTER. WHILE Y'ALL HAVE A PERSPECTIVE IT FEELS AUSTIN-LIKE IT IS REALLY NOT. IT IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE. I DON'T KNOW IF

THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> FOR ME I STARTED READING THIS AND MY QUESTION INITIALLY WAS, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TAKE A SATURDAY AND REALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND DIGEST THIS. WHEN IT CAME TO THE CHANGING OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY, SF, TO R-1 OR N-1, FOR ME IT IS, WHY NOT JUST LEAVE IT AS IS? IT IS LIKE THE OLD ADAGE. IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT KIND OF A DEAL. ARE WE MAKING THESE CHANGES JUST FOR MAKING CHANGES DO THE CODES, ACCORDING TO THIS, FIT TODAY? AS THEY DID WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY WRITTEN? IN ORDER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND BE ON BOARD WITH IT I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO TAKE A SATURDAY IF WE CAN EVEN CRAM ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN ON A SATURDAY, EXCUSE ME. AND, REALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND DIGEST IT AND TRY TO SEE IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BASED ON WHAT I READ SO FAR. I CAN NOT BE ON BOARD WITH THIS AND I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT UNTIL I UNDERSTAND IT.

>> UNDERSTANDABLE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. TO CLARIFY I HAVE BEEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THREE YEARS, MAYBE MORE, I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. LEGISLATION REQUIRES US TO REVIEW THE UDC AND THEN WE CAN NOT CHANGE IT TOO OFTEN. I DO THINK IT IS A BETTER PRODUCT THAN WHAT WE HAD.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE. IS IT GETTING IN THE WAY? THAT IS, I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE A WEEK, EIGHT DAYS, SO, I WOULD SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, A MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL, INCLUDING MYSELF TO GET MORE ON BOARD AND MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. BUT, I THINK NUMBER ONE IT IS A BETTER PRODUCT THAN WHAT WE SOUGHT OUT TO DO. I THINK WE HAVE ACHIEVED THE FUNDAMENTAL GOALS IN NOT EXCEEDED THOSE. I APPLAUD THAT. PLANNING, ZONING, CONSULTANTS FOR THAT. I DON'T WANT THE TIMING TO GET IN THE WAY OF INTRODUCING THIS NEW PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, IF IT TAKES

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MONTHS TO FLUSH OUT OR WHATEVER, NOT SAYING IT WOULD BUT, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE A NEW PRODUCT TO HELP DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. IF WE ARE NIT PICKING IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS DELAYING GETTING THE NEW PRODUCT OUT AND DEVELOPMENT, I FROWN ON THAT. THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT IS MY CONCERN. I THINK WE, AS A COUNCIL, CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION OR A POSITION TO PASS THERE WITH MINOR CHANGES AS WELL. NUMBER ONE A I GOOD PRODUCT. BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE AND WE NEED IT INTRODUCED AS TIMELY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. >> I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO UPDATE IT. THERE WERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE OLD VERSION. DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE THINGS IN THE NEW VERSION. WE WILL HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT. IT IS CLEAR THERE IS NOT FOUR VOTES TO VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES TO PASS. WE CAN NOT DRAG IT OUT. DO YOU WANT A SATURDAY TO HASH IT OUT, THEN WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH AND GET IT DONE AND KNOCK IT OUT AND COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING

AFTER THAT IS PASS IT. >> IS THERE A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT IT HAS TO BE DONE BY A CERTAIN DATE? TAKE DATA CENTERS, THE ONLY REASON I PROPOSE IT FOR THE DATA CENTERS NOT BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID OF IT BEING IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA, ONCE YOU APPROVE IT THEN THEY GO TO ENCORE AND THEY STRING TRANSMISSION LINES TO IT AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF IMMINENT DOMAIN. THIS MAKES IT PERMANENT BY RIGHT IN THE DISTRICT. MY CONCERN IS NOT WHERE THE DATA CENTER IS, NECESSARILY, AS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET POWER? ENCORE ANSMISON THROUGH SOMEBO'S NEIGHBORHOOD. THROUGH OUR MAIN DRAINAGE DITCHES. THAT IS, IT IS LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE LITTLE CHANGES ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOW -- THERE IS ALWAYS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES I DON'T CARE HOW MANY TIMES WE GO THROUGH IT. WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. ARE WE RUSHING TO GET SOMETHING NEW IN AN EFFORT FOR A DEADLINE WE SELF-IMPOSED OR THAT THE STATE

IMPOSED? >> IT IS NOT STATE IMPOSED.

CONTRACT HAS BEEN UP FOR A BIT, I WANT TO SAY. WE ARE NOW OUT OF CONTRACT PERIOD. WORKING ON IT FOR 18 MONTHS. SEVERAL UPDATES HERE. PRESENTING SOMETHING STAFF AND PNZ FELT COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE WE LOOKED THROUGH THEM. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES WE CAN. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMENTS, I HAVE NOT SEEN COMMENTS COME BACK FROM ANYBODY ON COUNCIL TO SAY HERE IS SOME OF MY CONCERNS OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM.

>> I WOULD SAY THIS, IF WE HAD A WORD DOC, I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB TO WHERE IT TWEAKS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A CONSULTANT TO HIRE THEM TO CHANGE THE WORD. I THINK WE NEED A WORD DOC AND SAY THERE IS NOW DONE WITH THE, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT? IF WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES. COMMENTS SIMPLE OF THAT NATURE AND CERTAINLY WE CAN GET INTO THE WHY, WHY ARE WE CHANGES THE NAMES, PART OF IT IS THAT OUR CURRENT DISTRICTS DON'T WORK. SF1 BUT SIX DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES SO YOU CAN NOT GET THE ONE YOU ARE HOPING FOR.

>> BUT WE CHANGED INDUSTRIAL. >> WE BROADENED IT

>> IT IS V OR . >> YEP.

>> I AM JUST SAYING IT IS WEIRD STUFF. AGAIN, EVERY CITY HAS THEIR OWN THING. TAYLOR WENT THROUGH, REDID THEIR WHOLE CODE, EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED IT WAS GOING TO BE THE FUTURE. AND THEN DEVELOPMENT CAME TO A HALT. EVERYBODY WAS LIKE WHAT THE HELL DID WE JUST DO HERE. I THINK IT IS THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, SOUNDED GOOD ON PAPER. I CAN READ IT AND GIVE YOU THE

COMMENTS. >> I AM NOT GOING TO READ 400 PAGES AND READ ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND HAVE FOUR PEOPLE

PASS IT. >> YES, MAYOR PRO-TEM'S POINT,

LET'S GET SOMETHING SCHEDULED. >> I SAY, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. I AM PICKY AND VERY SENSITIVE TO DEVELOPMENT, EXTREMELY SENSITIVE. AND I DON'T WANT COMPLETE ANARCHY BUT, AS I TALKED TO MATT, A LOT ABOUT THIS OVER THE PAST MONTH, I WANT US TO CONSIDER WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE WHEN WE ARE DOING THIS. IF WE ARE THE ONLY CITY -- WHEN I WAS IN SOUTH

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CAROLINA YOU CAN SUBMIT PLANS, SOMETIMES YOU SUBMIT PLANS IT WAS SO EASY THERE. SUBMIT PLANS AND STAMPED AND APPROVED BY NOON BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE COMPLICATED CODES. HOME DEPOT BUILT, HOMES BUILT. PEOPLE ARE NOT DYING, IT IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL AREA IF YOU NEVER BEEN OUT THERE, GO OUT THERE. COME TO CENTRAL TEXAS AND IT IS LIKE, OH, YOU CAN NOT BUILD A HOUSE UNTIL WE TELL YOU, NOT SAYING THE CODE DOES IT HERE, YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE KNOW MORE THAN THE PERSON BUILDING THE RETAIL CENTER, WE KNOW MORE THAN ANYBODY. I AM LIKE LET'S REALLY TAKE A LOOK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE PASSING AND THEN FROM THERE, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A BUNCH OF THIS.

MAYBE IT CAN BE SIMPLIFIED. WE ARE PROTECTING LIFE, SAFETY, AND, YOU KNOW, CURB APPEAL. IF YOU ARE AN AN INDUSTRIAL PLACE AND YOU WANT TO PUT A LIGHT 14 FEET UP IN THE AIR, WHO CARES, 400 ACRES, YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF 400 ACRES, IN OUR CODE SOME OF THESE THINGS DON'T MATTER. I WANT TO CARVE OUT THE SCHOOL AND IF IT GETS A MAGNET SCHOOL IN THERE AND MAGNET SCHOOL BUILDS AN 80,000 BUILDING THAT IS PUBLICLY FUNDED THEY SHOULD GET THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES AS THE NEXT HIGH SCHOOL. ANY WAY. I AM HAPPY TO MEET DANG NEAR ANY SATURDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BRING A COOLER WITH COLA.

>> TEA. >> I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT WHERE MAYBE WE ARE NOT BOTHERING YOU FOR THE WHOLE SATURDAY.

MAYBE WE CAN HIT YOU UP AHEAD OF TIME WITH SOME OF IT AND DEBATE, HEY, DO WE WANT THIS FOR THAT OR CARE ABOUT THIS AND US READ IT TOGETHER AND TALK THROUGH IT. IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS OR UNDERSTAND IT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN APPROVE IT.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST STAFF IS THERE TO HELP EXPLAIN THOSE.

>> YOU ARE LOOKING TO VOLUNTEER TO COME.

>> I HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR 23 YEARS, GREW UP IN THIS. I KNOW

THIS STUFF. IF YOU WANT TO COME. >> WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE HAVE

TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. >> ONCE YOU DIG INTO IT AND SEE THE FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO IT. AND GETTING MANY THINGS THROUGH.

STAFF APPROVAL ON SOME PARTS. WE CERTAINLY, WE DON'T WANT ALL OF IT WE WANTED PNZ TO LOOK AT SOME OF IT. MEETING THE PRELIM, LET'S GET IT APPROVED. THINGS LIKE THAT, FIX TO SPEED THINGS UP. I WILL SAY THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS WITH EIGHT SUBMITTALS F WE CAN GET THE DEVELOPER SIDE TO ALSO, THEN, DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND SUBMIT THE PLANS AND READ THE CHECK LIST WE PROVIDE PROACTIVELY AND GO THROUGH THE CHECK LIST. WE CAN EXPLAIN IT OR GIVE YOU THE LANGUAGE. THAT IS

WHAT WE USUALLY GET. >> YOU GUYS, ALLOW ME TO TALK

ONE MORE THING. >> I WANT TO CHANGE OUR -- [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS. WHEN YOU BUY LAND YOU CAN NOT CLOSE ON THE LAND TO GET A LEGAL LOT. IF YOU NEED A LEGAL LOT YOU NEED A PLAT. IF I WANT TO BUY TWO ACRES I HAVE TO PLAT THE PROPERTY. TO DO THAT I HAVE TO DO A TREE SUFAY, FLOOD STUDY, TIA, AND THERE IS LIKE TWO OTHER THINGS I CAN NOT REMEMBER THE LIST. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS BUY TWO ACRES. THAT IS ALL I AM TRYING TO DO, BUY TWO ACRES, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CLOSING ON MEETS AND BOUNDS BECAUSE, IT IS A YEAR PROCESS FOR THAT LITTLE 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK. WE MADE A LIST, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MOVE A BOUNDARY. ALL I UNDERSTAND BY LAW IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS

TO IT. >> SO, I WILL SAY THERE ARE TIMES YOU HEAR THE HORROR STORIES, TYPICALLY THEY ARE MEETING WITH STAFF. I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT WE DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED A TREE SURVEY, THERE ARE NO TREES, THAT IS USUALLY A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF. THERE ARE TIMES WE SAY IN THE CODE IF IT IS ZONING YES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SERVE YOU, ZONING YOU NEED YOUR TIA. PARTS IN THE CODE WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO PLAT AND IT IS ZONED WE MIGHT NEED A TIA OR A WAIVER FOR IT.

YOU DON'T NEED ONE RIGHT NOW. BUT, THOSE ARE ALL BUILT INTO THE APPLICATION RIGHT NOW. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THINGS IN OUR APPLICATION TO SAY, WE NEED THIS. BUT ASK US IF WE DON'T THINK SO. GO THROUGH IT ALL. SHE HAD A LIST OF EIGHT QUESTIONS,

YEP. WAIVED, WAIVED, WAIVED. >> I WANT TO SEE ALL OF THAT

DONE IN A SEPARATE PROCESS. >> WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT.

>> NO, I WANT THE PLAT TO BE SUBMITTED AND RECORDED IN

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30-DAYS. THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE STATE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT NOT WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO IT THAT FAST BUT WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT THAT FAST. THE TREE SURVEY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VOTE TO COUNCIL I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO TREE SURVEYS. AGAIN, IT IS YOUR TREE ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU ARE PAYING TAXES FOR IT. IF YOU WANT TO CUT IT DOWN, CUT IT DOWN. A LANDSCAPE CODE THAT CAN ADDRESS IT BY CUTTING DOWN WHEN YOU DEVELOP YOU WILL NEED A TREE CREDIT OR WHATEVER TO MAINTAIN IT. IT IS LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, EVEN IF I DID IT. NOT WAIVED, NOT WAIVED. I CAN BE $200,000 TO $300,000 IN TO DO A STUDY TO BUY TWO ACRES. I DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE TO DO A TREE SURVEY BECAUSE IT IS AT A BUSY CORNER.

PERSONALLY I THINK ALL OF THAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO DO AN SR REQUEST TO MOVE THE BOUNDARY LINE. THAT IS PART OF THE MEETING. WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO CLOSE. STATE LAW, ACCESS, I GET IT. IF IT IS WE DON'T WANT TO SUPPLY A WATER WASTE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, IS THERE A LAW? IT MAY BE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO BUT MAYBE WE NEED A BETTER PLAN OR A TRIGGER OR SOME OTHER MEASURE. TO ME, FOR PEOPLE TO CLOSE ON PROPERTY YOU GOT TO HAVE A LEGAL LOT. WE ARE FASTER THAN MOST PLACES, GOD FORBID GO TO ANOTHER CITY, I WILL NOT SAY THEIR NAME, IT CAN BE 18 MONTHS AND STILL ONGOING.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE AND THEN FIX IT TO WHERE YOU GUYS, YOU GET A PLAT AND YOU ARE MOVING IT OVER.

WHAT I PROPOSE IS THIS IDEA, PEOPLE, IF YOU WOULD PAY THREE TO FOUR TIMES THE PRICE AND IT WENT FASTER WOULD YOU PAY THAT? THE ANSWER WAS, YES. KNOWING THEY MAY HAVE TO DO A TREE SURVEY LATER IN THE PROCESS. INSTEAD OF CHARGING $1800 WE CAN CHARGE 7500, IT IS THREE TIMES THE MONEY. NOT STOPPING THE WORK

JUST MOVING IT DOWN. >> THOSE ARE ALL THINGS TO DISCUSS. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE SATURDAY MORNING YOU FOCUS ON THE U D.C. PGH THE THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE PROCESS.

SEPARATE DOCUMENTS TO TWEAK. OFF OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I DON'T THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE COVERED UNDER UDC, APPLICATION THAT IS HOW YOU DEAL WITH THOSE.

TWEAKS WE CAN DO THAT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH THOSE THINGS. WHILE WE ARE IN A SATURDAY SESSION WE CAN GO THROUGH WHAT IS A PLAT, WHY IS A PLAT, WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING? VERY IMPORTANT LINES ON A PIECE OF PAPER, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS. LESS THAN FIVE ACRES YOU HAVE TO PLAT. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING IT

RIGHT AND THE LANGUAGE. >> ALL RIGHT. SO, MAYBE NO ACTION AND WE WILL SCHEDULE, WORK ON THE MESSAGE BOARD TO COME UP WITH A SATURDAY TO GET COUNCILMEMBER THOMPSON AND

COUNCILMEMBER GORDON ON IT >> SOONER THAN LATER.

>> I THINK SOONER IS BETTER. THIS WORK JUST HAS BEEN DONE. IT IS READY TO GO. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT READY TO APPROVE IT. WE SHOULD NOT JUST PUT THE ON THE SHELF AND SIX MONTHS TRY TO

REMEMBER IT. >> CLARIFICATION DO YOU WANT IT TO BE A JOINT MEETING WITH, TO INVITE PNZ, HELPFUL OR JUST DISCUSS AS A BOARD? I WOULD ASSUME, WE MIGHT HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THEM OR LET THEM KNOW THE CHANGES.

>> WHY DON'T WE INVITE THEM AND HAVE THEM POSTED AS POSSIBLE QUORUM AND THEY CAN BE THERE IF THEY WANT TO.

>> WE DON'T NEED THEM AND STAFF MAD AT US.

>> STARTING AFTER 9:00, I CAN RUN, I WILL NOT BE RUN.

>> SHE SAID IT WITH A LOOK. >> JUST LET ME GET IN FIVE

MILES. >> I SUPPORT THAT.

[10.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-151 adopting the Hutto Engineering Criteria Manual and setting an effective date. (Matt Rector)]

>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS, ASHLEY. >> YEP.

>> THANK YOU. >>> NEXT,10.3. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. R-2025-151 ADOPTING THE HUTTO ITEMENGINEERING CRITERIA MANUAL AND SETTING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. . >> OUR SATURDAYS ARE GETTING

FILLED UP. SUNDAY. >> I CAN'T, SORRY.

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>>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO THIS IS IN LINE -- WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE OUR FIRST EVER CRITERIA MANUAL AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE. WE CURRENTLY OPERATE ON A, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMINOLOGY, HODGEPODGE OF ENGINEERING MANUALS. WE DEFER TO ROUND ROCK FOR MOST THINGS. WE HAVE OUR OWN WATER CRITERIA WE USE FOR STREETS, DRAINAGE AND ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT MANUAL. WE DEFER TO ROUND ROCK. WE USE DETAILS FROM ROUND ROCK OR OTHERS THAT WE CREATED OURSELVES BY LOOKING AT THE OTHER CITIES, FOR OUR STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS WE USE GEORGETOWN'S MANUAL. SO, A LOT OF CONFLICTS CURRENTLY BETWEEN THAT COMBINATION OF ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS AND THE UDC TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEW MANUAL AND THE UDC TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT SAYING ONE THING IN THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AND SAYING SOMETHING OPPOSITE IN THE UDC OR, REQUIRING SOME MEASUREMENT IN ONE AND NOT IN THE OTHER. SO, GENERALLY WHAT WE DID IS WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT TO REMOVE A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL STUFF OUT OF THE UDC AND PUT TECHNICAL IN THE MANUAL WHERE IT BELONGS IN MY OPINION AND FOCUS ON DEVELOPMENT, MORE AESTHETIC, MORE TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL WHERE ENGINEERING GUIDANCE AND THE MATH AND THE SCIENCE AND ALL OF THAT IS IN THE ENGINEERING MANUAL.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I AM AFRAID TO SAY THIS.

>> WANT TO DO A SATURDAY MEETING?

>> DO YOU WANT ANOTHER SATURDAY MEETING?

>> NOT NECESSARILY. I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE CONCURRENTLY APPROVED WITH U D.C. PGH CHANGES U D.C. PGH UDC AND I WANT TO CHECK TO SEE HOW TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER AND I DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS AND GO BACK AND MAKE THE CHANGES IN IT, WE NEED TO CONQUER. IT IS COMPLICATED WHEN YOU GO TO ROUND ROCK AND THEY DO NOT UPDATE THEIR ITEMS IN A TIMELY MANNER ONLINE AND THEN YOU SUBMIT SOMETHING BUT YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE. SO, IMMEDIATELY YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON PLANS YOU DID NOT KNOW IT. AND THEN, YEAH, SOMETIMES GEORGETOWN MAKES A CHANGE THAT CONFLICTS WITH ROUND ROCK AND YOU ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK IT IS A WAY OF US GROWING UP AND BEING A BIGGER CITY TO HAVE THIS.

>> I PERSONALLY LIKE, LIKE YOUR APPROACH, MATT. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT SUCCESS BREEDS SUCCESS AND SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT, THAT THESE CODES HAVE WORKED FOR, WE CAN TAILOR MAKE IT FOR HUTTO I THINK WE WILL BE ALL THE BETTER FOR IT. I DO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING SO WE ARE ALL MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND HEARING THE SAME THING. BUT, I THINK

THIS IS GREAT. >> DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ISSUES ACCEPTING THIS AT THE SAME TIME THE UDC HOWEVER IT COMES OUT?

>> NO. >> HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED TO

CALL YOU ON A SATURDAY. >> JUST, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT THIS TO DRAG OUT, WE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT. I AGREE WITH THE ENGINEER THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE, UDC AND THE MANUAL MADE IT BETTER. MORE STREAMLINED FOR STAFF AND DEVELOPERS. IT IS A BETTER PRODUCT, A BETTER PRODUCT TOGETHER. I DON'T WANT IT TO GET IN THE WAY. SATURDAY FOR THE UDC GOING AND THEN WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON FOR THE ENGINEERING MANUAL. I AM HOPING TO GET IT DONE IN A MONTH, DEFINITELY THREE TO SIX WEEKS, ANYTHING LONGER THAN THAT WE ARE KEEPING A GOOD PRODUCT OFF OF THE

STREETS. >> SO, COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS ARE

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YOU SAYING WE LOOK AT THE UDC SEPARATE FROM THE MANUAL OR

BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER? >> I AM JUST SAYING HOWEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REVIEW THE UDC AND THE ENGINEERING MANUAL I AM FOR I JUST DON'T WANT THE TIME LINE TO DRAG OUT OVER NOT IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING THAT IS A BETTER PRODUCT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND JUST ON THE TIME LINE PART, PART OF THE REASON FOR SAYING WITHIN A MONTH, AFTER THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE ALL BUDGET, ALL OF THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL THE BUDGET IS APPROVED. THEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT OCTOBER BEFORE YOU CAN GET TO ANYTHING ELSE.

>> I AGREE. BY THEN WE FORGET WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN JUNE. I

AGREE. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR CITY MANAGER, ARE THESE, WHAT IS IN THE PACKET ARE THERE RED LINES IN THE PACKET? FOR WHAT EXACTLY WAS CHANGED?

>> THE ENGINEERING MANUAL IS HARD BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE.

>> ALL BRAND-NEW. >> NOT TO GO BACK, UDC REDLINED?

THEY WERE WANTING US TO APPROVE. >> SO, THE ORDINANCE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WAS GOING TO REPEAL THE PRIOR UDC AND REPLACE IT WITH THE NEW UDC, APPLY FOR PERIOD OF TIME, THE ORDINANCES WITH JUNE 30TH UNDER PROCESS OF THE OLD CODE. AND THEN, THERE WAS A HARD LINE JULY 1ST FOR THE NEW UDC TO GO INTO EFFECT. THE OTHER THING, YOU CAN CALL OUT ALL OF THE REFERENCES AND APPEAL THOSE AND ADOPT THE NEW MANUAL. WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK.

>> OKAY. >> SO, WE WILL BRING IT BACK.

[14.1. Pursuant to Texas Government Code section 551.071 (attorney consultation) to deliberate and seek legal advice regarding the following legal matters: (a) City of Hutto v. McGinnis Lockridge,LLP, et. al, pending in Williamson County District Court; (b) Hutto v. Brooklands, et. al, Cause No. 23-122-C395, pending in the 395th District Court of Williamson County, Texas; (c) The Hutto Preservation Commission’s request for the City of Hutto to pursue copyright protections for a recently published book; (d) Epitome Public Improvement District Development Agreement; (e) City of Hutto, Texas vs. Wolverine Interests, LLC; Cause No. 19-1080-C26, pending in the 26th Judicial District Court of Williamson County, Texas (f) First Amendment to Limmer Square Development Agreement between Limmer Holdings, LLC, and the City dated April 17, 2025.]

>> ALL RIGHT. >> NO OBJECTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 14.1, C, OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE HBC PERSON AND THEN WE WILL STILL BRING IT BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. SORRY, JOHN. I SAW YOU OVER

THERE. >> I AM HERE TO SERVE.

LAUGHTER ] >> OH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL DO 14.1, AND THE HUTTO PRESENTATION REQUESTS TO PURSUIT COPYRIGHT PROTECTIONS YOU ALL HAVE THE LEGAL MENU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH CHAPTER ONE? I HAVE NOT READ THAT YET. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE TABLE OF CONTENTS WOULD BE A GOOD START, PERHAPS. WE HAVE PLANS FOR CHAPTER TWO. BUT, WE ARE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE CITY'S INTEREST IS IN CHAPTER ONE. BEFORE PROCEEDING TO CHAPTER TWO.

>> IF WE WERE GOING TO COPYRIGHT IT AND ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE

UP YOUR ARTISTIC CONTROL OVER . >> YES.

>> IF OUR INTEREST, WE DID IT FOR THE CITY. SO -- OUR MAIN INTEREST IS THE CITY ADOPT IT AND THEN PROMOTE IT. THAT IS OUR MAIN INTEREST. WE LIKE TO SEE IT USED.

>> ALL RIGHT. I AM VERY HAPPY YOU DID THIS. WE COULD OF PAID TENS OF THOUSANDS FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT. YOU ALL VOLUNTEERS AND PUT THAT TOGETHER. FROM WHAT I READ PROBABLY 30 PAGES, EXTREMELY DETAILED. AND, SO, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR GUY'S WORK AND HOPEFULLY WE FIND A WAY TO ALMOST LIKE DISPLAY THAT TO PEOPLE IN A MANNER YOU GUYS WILL

BE PROUD OF AND WE PROTECT. >> WE LIKE TO SEE IT PROMOTED TO

THEN GO ON WITH CHAPTER TWO. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ANY OF

YOU? >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[10.4. Continue public hearing and consider possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-130 authorizing and creating the Limmer Square Public Improvement District within the City Of Hutto pursuant to Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code. (Legal)]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE. IS 10.4 CONTINUEAND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. R-2025-130 PUBLICAUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE LIMMER SQUARE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY HEARINGOF HUTTO PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 372, TEXAS LOCAL

GOVERNMENT CODE. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU ALSO HAVE IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION MEMOS AND AGENDA ITEMS THE REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN ALSO CONSIDERATION ON DEDICATING A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN HIS DISTRICT TO THE CITY. THEN ALSO THE ANNEXATION. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THE PUBLIC HEARING

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TO OPEN IT AND DO FINAL ADJOURNMENT AND CREATE THE DISTRICT. THE NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE OUT LINE OF THE DISTRICT WILL NOT CHANGE. AND IT CAN BE TAKEN AFTER YOU CREATE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:53 P.M. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THE LIMMER SQUARE PUBLIC

IMPROVEMENT. >> WILL YOU SAY FINAL

ADJOURNMENT. >> FINAL ADJOURNMENT AT 8:54.

>> THANK YOU, IT JUST MIRRORS THE STATUTE.

>> QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?

>> THE RESOLUTION IS IN YOUR PACKET. IT HAS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION. IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY BOND COUNCIL AND PREPARED BY BOND COUNCIL AND READY FOR COUNCIL ACTION.

>> I MOVE TO MOVE IT AS PRESENTED

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER

PORTERFIELD. >> TO CLARIFY YOU ARE REQUESTING

APPROVAL OF R-TWO 025-130. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PUT IT TO A VOTE.

[10.5. Continue public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2025-016 Approving the Annexation of the Limmer Square Annexation tract, 111.82 acres, more or less, of land located at the southwest corner of Limmer Loop and SH130 and to Establish the Base Zoning of MF (Multi-Family), SF-1 (single-family), and B-2 (Commercial) zoning districts. (Ashley Bailey) (Part 1 of 2)]

>> MOTION PASSES 5-0. 10.5. CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NO. O-2025-016 NEXT,APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF THE LIMMER SQUARE ANNEXATION TRACT, 111.82 ITEMACRES, MORE OR LESS, OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LIMMER LOOP AND SH130 AND TO ESTABLISH THE BASE ZONING OF MF (MULTI-FAMILY), SF-1 (SINGLE-FAMILY), AND B-2

(COMMERCIAL) ZONING DISTRICTS. >> I RECOMMEND THAT YOU OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU CONSIDER THE ANNEXATION, WE WANT TO BRIEF COUNCIL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THE DEDICATION OF LAND WITHIN THE SQUARE.

>> IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THE ANNEXATION. SEEING NONE. WE ARE CLOSED. FINAL ADJOURN AND BE

DONE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CLOSE THIS

[11. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> TO CONSIDER THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE

>> NEXT, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ANYTHING ANYONE WISHES TO PULL

OUT? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT

11.4. PULL OUT 11.6 >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS, WE

LOOK TO APPROVE 1, 3, 5 AND 7. >> SO MOVED.

>> A SECOND. >> .

>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-155 authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Gaston and Sheehan, Inc, to auction salvage vehicles and equipment owned by the City of Hutto. (Christina Bishop)]

PASSED 5-0. NEXT, ITEM 11.4. 11.4. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NO. R-2025-155 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH GASTON AND SHEEHAN, INC, TO AUCTION SALVAGE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT OWNED BY THE CITY OF

HUTTO. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> I AM CURIOUS. WE DID GET AN EMAIL ON THIS. SO IT MADE ME THINK. ARE WE HAVING TO PAY ANY EXTRA SERVICE FOR THIS? IS THIS PART OF SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING ON OR CURIOUS

HOW IT WORKS? >> SO, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THIS SERVICE. THE WAY THE COMPANY WILL MAKE A PREMIUM THEY WILL CHARGE IT TO THE BIDDER. ANY OTHER SERVICES WE PLEAD. DECAL REMOVAL OR TRANSPORT FOR INOPPERRABLE VEHICLES IT IN-OPERABLE, WE CAN TRANSFER IT AND DECAL REMOVAL WE

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THINK WE CAN DO IN HOUSE. AND IT IS MINIMAL COST IF ANY.

>> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. >> NOT EXPECTED TO GET MUCH

$30,000 OR SOMETHING? >> WE CAN HAVE THEM STOP THOSE GUYS THAT DRIVES DOWN THE HIGHWAY WITH ALL OF THE CARS IN TOW, WE HAVE A DEAL FOR YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. A MOTION OR ANYMORE QUESTIONS.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 11.4 THE WAY IT IS

PRESENTED. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE VOTE.

BEING CALLED ] >> MOTION PASSES, 5-0. NEXT ITEM

[11.6. Consideration and possible action on acceptance of the May 2025 financial report (Alberta Barrett)]

11.6 11.6. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ACCEPTANCE OF THE MAY

2025 FINANCIAL REPORT . >> IT IS MORE OF A STATEMENT. IF WE CAN GET THE IMPACT FEES AND IT SHOULD BE DOWN WITH BUDGET.

IF I REMEMBER, THE SPREADSHEET HAD ALL OF THE FEES COMING IN.

BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE OFF 60% WITH THREE MONTHS TO GO. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW CAN WE GET AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET WITH THE IMPACT FEES, CALCULATIONS WITH THE NEW RATES AND PROJECTIONS? MY FEAR IS THAT LIKE THE SALES TAX, HOW WE ADJUSTED IT. OFF $5 MILLION AND END THE YEAR $6 OR 7 IN THE HOLE WITH IMPACT FEES WHAT DOES IT DO THREE YEARS FROM NOW

[12.1. Discussion and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-156 adopting the Nature Trail Volunteer Policy and authorization for the re-opening of city-owned Nature Trails. (Jeff White)]

>> ADOPTING A NATURE TRAIL VOLUNTEER POLICY AND AUTHORIZATION FOR REOPENING OF CITY-OWNED NATURE TRAILS.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JEFF WEISE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. GET THIS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE. SO THIS PROJECT REQUEST DOES ALIGN WITH STRATEGIC PILLAR NUMBER FOUR, SPECIFICALLY FORWARD PARKS IMPROVEMENT AMENITIES AND ENSURE WELL-MAINTAINED, INCLUSIVE FACILITIES. THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED BY COUNSEL AT THE MAY 15TH AGENDA, ITEM 13.3, THE PROPOSED POLICY WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY LEGAL AS WELL AS PARKS BOARD. STAFF SOUGHT COUNCIL FOR THE BACK BY JUNE 2ND. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED. AND COORDINATION WITH THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE IN A RISK POOL THAT'S CONFIRMED THAT OUR EXISTING INSURANCE COVERS VOLUNTEERS . THE POLICY PURPOSE OF IMPACT IS BASICALLY IT GIVES US GUIDELINES FOR VOLUNTEER GROUPS, OUTLINES THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND OUTLINES RESPONSIBILITIES OF PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, PROMOTES SUSTAINABLE TRAIL PRACTICES AND POLICY, IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WOULD TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THEY ADOPT A POLICY AND OPEN UP THE NATURE TRAILS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.