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[Library Advisory Board on August 4, 2025.]
VOLUME IS WORKING BECAUSE IT IS HEAR OVER THERE.SO LET'S LET HER LOG OUT AND LOG IN.
SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT WHILE AWAY.
WERE THERE ANY PROGRAMS YOU SAW IN AUGUST THAT YOU'RE KIND OF THINKING, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ME? I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN.
I THINK I KNOW WHAT THE GIFT OF ADVANCE CARE PLANNING IS.
UM, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? SAY, BENEFIT IS, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT ONE, THAT SAME ONE IN JUNE, AND IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
AND THEN WE HAD A LOT OF CALLS AND EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC AFTERWARDS TO ASK, WE GONNA DO IT AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T ATTEND THAT ONE.
UH, WELL WE HAD AUSTIN HOSPICE COME AND THEY NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THESE PACKETS THAT THEY HAD PREPARED.
THEY WENT THROUGH DIFFERENT, NOT JUST YOUR, YOU KNOW, DO NOT RESUSCITATE, BUT LIKE ALL OF THE PAPERWORK THAT WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE IN ORDER, UM, AT END OF LIFE.
BUT ALSO THEY, THEY WERE GREAT AT DEFINING THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LIKE PALLIATIVE CARE AND HOSPICE CARE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, UM, NOTARY.
SO IF ANYBODY BROUGHT ANYTHING WITH THEM, THEY WERE ABLE TO SIGN OFF AS WITNESSES ON THINGS.
UM, IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, TO PROMOTE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY.
IT WAS TYPICAL WITH AWARENESS, UM, MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UM, AND I ATTENDED IT MYSELF AND I FOUND IT INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE.
UM, AND WHAT WE FOUND BASED ON THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE IS THE REASON THAT THEY CHOSE TO ATTEND IS BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY, UM, LOST SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE THEIR THINGS IN ORDER AND THEY NOW THEY'RE THINKING, I BETTER GET MY STUFF.
SO, UM, WE'RE HAVING A SECOND ONE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
WOULD THAT ALSO BE APPROPRIATE FOR, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE, UM, LIKE A, AN ALMOST ADULT CHILD THAT'S ABOUT TO AGE OUT, LIKE BEING ABLE TO DO TRANSFER RIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES.
BUT THEY CAN ANSWER ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND, AND THE WAY THAT THEY HAD IT SET UP TOO IS THEY HAD A PRESENTATION THAT THEY DID, BUT THE LAST, I WANT TO SAY 30 ISH MINUTES WAS REALLY Q AND A AND IT WAS, IT COULD BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR SITUATION.
THEY WERE ALSO WILLING TO GO INTO ONE OF THE STUDY ROOMS PRIVATELY IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA ASK IN FRONT OF THE GROUP.
THIS MAY BE SOMETHING GOOD TO TAKE TO THE CA PARENTS IN CASE THAT'S OF INTEREST.
SO THERE'S, OR I THINK SPECIAL EDUCATION, PARENT ADVISORY YES.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? UM, SO MAYBE REACHING OUT TO THE SPECIAL EDUCATION DIRECTOR, LETTING HER KNOW THAT THIS IS BEING OFFERED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE ISD DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I COULD SEE THAT BEING A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST THE END OF LIFE CARE.
WHAT TIME IS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE BOARD? THE TIME? 7:00 PM SEVEN AND WE'LL BE OUT BY SEVEN 30.
HAVE GREEN THUMB UP ON THE 20
WE, WE HAD LAST FRIDAY, OUR, UH, SUMMER READING WRAP UP PARTY THAT HAS GONE REALLY, REALLY WELL.
UM, I DON'T HAVE FINAL NUMBERS YET BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE BLOGS THROUGH THE NINTH
MAYBE WE'RE ON VACATION AND THEY'RE JUST COMING BACK.
UM, BUT I'LL SEND THOSE OUT TOO WITH THE EMAIL WITH ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, DATA.
WHAT? THE SQUAD, I CAN'T SAY THAT.
UM, AND REALLY, UM, WE DID THAT 'CAUSE WHAT WE WERE FINDING IS, UM, IF WE DIDN'T SEPARATE IT, IT WAS HARD TO FIND A CRAFT THAT BOTH AGE GROUPS WOULD REALLY ENJOY.
UM, BUT THE, OUR RULE OF THUMB WITH ALL LIBRARY PROGRAMS IS WE DON'T TURN PEOPLE AWAY.
SO IF SOMEONE MESSED UP AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE COMING TO ONE AND THEY COME TO THE OTHER, WE ARE GONNA LET THEM IN.
OH, UM, I'M SURPRIS YOU DIDN'T ASK ABOUT SPEED FRIENDING.
DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT SPEED FRIENDING IS? OH, IT'S MORE, ALRIGHT,
SO I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT SPEED DATING IS, RIGHT? EVERYONE HEARD ABOUT THAT? SO, UM, WE HAD A SPEED FRIENDING EVENT ACTUALLY IN JANUARY, AND IT WENT REALLY WELL.
UM, IN FACT, THE, THE FAMILIES THAT CAME, IT WAS MOMS WITH, UM, EITHER NEWBORNS UP TO THE TODDLERS WHO WERE NOT SCHOOL AGED YET.
AND IT WAS, IT'S JUST A PLACE FOR THEM TO, WE LITERALLY HAVE IT SET UP VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
AND YOU GO THE, THE OUTER CIRCLE USUALLY STAYS PUT IN THE INNER CIRCLE TRAVELS AND YOU GO UP TO EACH PERSON AND YOU, YOU HAVE A, I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, LAMINATED LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT COULD HELP YOU START OUT.
NOW, OF COURSE, ONCE THEY STARTED TALKING, THEY WEREN'T USING THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, BUT IT ALSO SHOWED THE KIDDOS HOW TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE PERSON TOO.
AND SO THEY, THEY WOULD INTRODUCE THEIR KIDS TO, AND THEY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN HOUR LONG.
WE, WE WERE HAVING TO KIND OF ASK THEM TO
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FIND ANOTHER LOCATION ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.AND THEY MADE PLANS TO MEET UP DIRECTLY RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
AND SO WE THOUGHT WITH SCHOOL STARTING THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, MOMS AND DADS THAT WHOSE KIDS HAVE STARTED SCHOOL, THE OLDER KIDS HAVE STARTED, AND, UH, THEY CAN COME AND DO THIS SPEED RUNNING EVENT AND MAYBE MEET SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, DO PLAY DATES WITH AND STUFF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S BEING OFFERED IN AUGUST? TAKE A MAKE ROUND KIT.
YES, THAT, UM, WE PUT OUT, UM, TODAY IT'S ALMOST GONE.
UH, WE KEEP MAKING MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
I THINK THEY STARTED OFF MAKING ABOUT 40 TO 50 AND WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO LIKE 75 TO A HUNDRED.
AND THEY'RE USUALLY GONE THE VERY FIRST DAY THEY COME OUT.
IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE WAITING AT 10 WHEN WE OPEN TO COME IN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CRAFT KIT.
SO, UM, YEAH, AND IT'S A REALLY FUN ONE THIS, UM, AROUND, 'CAUSE IT, IT WAS JELLYFISH, JELLYFISH, FUN LITTLE TENTACLES, THOSE LEAVING THE, UM, ADULT CLUB YELLOW THINGS.
UH, THE ADULT CLUB THAT MEETS HERE ON THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH IS ACTUALLY RUN BY ITSELF.
SO THAT'S BEEN GOING FOR YEARS HERE.
IT'S THE SAME GROUP PLACE THAT I, I BELIEVE THEY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THEY INVITED NEW PEOPLE IN, BUT THEY'VE BEEN MEETING HERE ON THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH FOR YEARS.
THAT LAST THING, I WANTED TO JUST SPEAK TO THE LIBRARY FEASIBILITY STUDY, UM, AND, AND OFFICE, SOME CLARIFICATIONS.
UM, SO THERE, UM, THE LIBRARY FEASIBILITY STUDY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, STARTED BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, UM, HAS BEEN UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL DURING BUDGET SEASON.
UM, THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH YEAR AND THE LAST THREE YEARS IT HAS BEEN, UM, TAKEN OFF, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, HOWEVER YOU WANNA SAY THAT, UM, WITHOUT CONVERSATION.
AND SO I, I, UM, WANTED TO AT LEAST TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LIBRARY FEASIBILITY STUDY IS, UM, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT YOU KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN SAID.
SO FIRST OF ALL, LIBRARY FEASIBILITY IS NOT, IS NOT ASKING FOR A NEW LIBRARY RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO TAKE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE ALSO ARE INCREDIBLY AWARE THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS SO MANY THINGS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH OUR PD, ALL OF THE THINGS GOING ON.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE FIRST IN LINE FOR ANYTHING.
UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TO HAVE A LIBRARY FEASIBILITY STUDY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ACTUAL EXPERTS ASSESS THAT NEED.
SO IT'S NOT JUST, NOW, OF COURSE I'M THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR, SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NO STAKE IN THE LIBRARY OR YOU KNOW, ME OR ANYWHERE HERE THAT CAN ASSESS IT.
AND THEY CAN COME BACK WITH THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE AND THEIR DATA MIGHT COME BACK THAT, NO, WE CAN WAIT X AMOUNT OF YEARS.
OR THEIR DATA MIGHT SAY WE NEED IT, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE MORE.
BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF FEASIBILITY STUDIES THAT ARE UP KIND OF, UM, TO BE DISCUSSED.
AN AQUATIC CENTER, A COMMUNITY CENTER, THE PARKS AND REC OFFICES.
AND OF COURSE, UM, PD IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, THEY'VE DONE THE FEASIBILITY SETTING AND THEN PUBLIC WORK.
UM, I LOOKED UP ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I, I GOT AT OUR SATURDAY, UM, BUDGET.
WHAT WAS IT? A QUESTION? IT WAS A COMMENT ABOUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THESE, UH, FEASIBILITY STUDIES ARE GOOD FOR.
AND THE WAY THAT IT'S BROKEN DOWN IS ACTUALLY, UM, BY SHELF LIFE IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS INFORMATION BEFORE I LOOKED FOR IT, AND SO YOU MAY, YOU MAY KNOW ALL OF THIS, BUT I'M GONNA SHARE IT OUT, UM, BECAUSE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE A QUESTION THAT'S ASKED OF ME EVEN, UM, AT THURSDAYS, UH, BUDGET MEETING WITH, UM, COUNSEL.
SO THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE COMMUNITY GROWTH IS GOOD FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
AND SO IT BEEN AT A PLACE LIKE CUDO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FIT ON THAT THREE TO FIVE YEAR SCALE, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ALSO ARE GROWING INCREDIBLY RAPIDLY.
SO IF I HAD TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION, IT WOULD BE ON THE, ON THE CLOSER TO THE THREE YEARS.
UM, THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT, WHICH THEY DO, THE BUILDING, THE SITES, ALL OF THAT, UM, IS FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY GOES ALONG
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WITH BUILDING CODES, YOU KNOW, THAT MARKET AND HOW THAT, HOW IT, UM, CHANGES, UM, FOR LIBRARY USAGE AND SERVICES ANALYSIS THAT HAS A TWO TO FOUR YEAR SHELF LIFE.AND THAT'S BECAUSE PATRON UH, BEHAVIOR CAN DEPEND ON POPULATION GROWTH.
RIGHT? WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT WITH DATA IS THAT AS THE POPULATION HAS GROWN, OUR, UM, ACTIVE CARD USAGES HAVE GONE UP, OUR PARTICIPATION HAS GONE UP, OUR PROGRAMS HAVE GONE UP, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT THIS WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO, UM, COMMUNITY WIDE.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE LIBRARY FOCUS, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE A SURVEY THAT I DID OR THAT THE LIBRARY WAS DOING.
UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, LIKE FA TWO FOCUS GROUPS, WHICH OFTEN THEY WILL DO ALONGSIDE WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SENTIMENT COULD SHIFT QUICKLY DEPENDING UPON THE CURRENT CLIMATE.
WE WE'RE SEEING A BIG SHIFT RIGHT NOW.
SO JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE A YEAR FROM NOW BASED ON WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UM, AND THEN THE COST ESTIMATES, THOSE ARE ONE TO THREE YEARS.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT WE KNOW EVERYTHING'S EXPONENTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GO UP.
SO I EXPECTED THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE.
SO, UM, IN SAYING THAT WE WOULD LOVE, WHAT I'M ASKING COUNSEL FOR IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ESSENTIALLY ABOUT THE LIBRARY USABILITY STUDY.
I'M GONNA SHARE ALL THE SAME INFORMATION WITH THEM THAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE'LL DO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, UM, DECIDES THAT WE WILL DO, WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE GET THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OR NOT.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, TELL Y'ALL THAT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, LET'S SEE, WITH PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR.
I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED BECAUSE WE HAVE, WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER BEING LIKE A SEPARATE, UM, FEASIBILITY STUDY.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THE LIBRARY IS ESSENTIALLY, IT'S NOT A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A STANDING HUB.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CITIES, THERE'S ONE IN PARKER HEIGHTS, UM, THAT HAVE BUILT A LIBRARY SLASH COMMUNITY CENTER IN ONE PLACE WITH THE LIBRARY BEING ON THE LEFT, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY CENTER BEING ON THE RIGHT.
AND THEN PARSON REC LIBRARY ARE ABLE TO COLLABORATE EVEN MORE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE SAME SPACE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE TO THEM, AND WHAT, WHAT I'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WITH A COUPLE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHEN THEY DECIDE TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, IT BE A JOINT FEASIBILITY STUDY BECAUSE THEN IT'S JUST ONE STUDY.
UM, I ALSO THINK IT'D BE A MUCH BETTER USE OF RESOURCES TO HAVE IT ALL IN ONE BUILDING, A ONE STOP SHOP.
UM, JUST THINK, I MEAN, LIKE SOMEONE FAMILY IS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY WOULD DRIVE FROM TEMPLE WHERE I LIVED TO HARPER HEIGHTS TO USE IT.
AND MY OLDER ONE WOULD GO OVER TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER 'CAUSE THEY HAD LIKE TEEN KIND OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON OVER THERE.
AND THEN I WENT WITH THE YOUNGER ONE OVER TO THE LIBRARY.
SO FAMILIES CAN USE THE SAME SPACE FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT.
UM, UH, WHEN I TALKED TO, UM, JEFF, ROBERT PARKS AND MARQUI WAS REALLY INTERESTED, UM, IN, IN THAT DISCUSSION ING.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, JUST SO YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING IN CONVERSATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO SAY, UM, THAT WHEN WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FEASIBILITY.
SO YEAH, I DO THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD, UM, OPTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, I MEAN, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, LIKE OF ANY AND VERY FEW PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE IN LARGE ENOUGH AREAS, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME REGARDS, WE ALREADY ARE ACTING AS A COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DOING A LOT OF SENIOR PROGRAMMING NOW, WHICH WE FOUND THE NICHE.
AND OF COURSE WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT HERE, THEY'RE COMING OUT MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
UM, SO TRANSPORTATION MIGHT BE NOT BE AS MUCH OF A HINDRANCE AS IT WAS WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION NOW IN 2024.
UM, BUT WE, WE HEAR FROM SENIORS ALL THE TIME, WE DON'T HAVE A SENIOR CENTER.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THAT, THAT NICHE, THAT NICHE.
WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER THEM SPACE WHERE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE TO TRAILS OF CARMEL CREEK TO OFFER THE PROGRAMMING AS WELL, SO THAT THEY HAVE OPTIONS, UH, FOR WHERE TO HAVE IT.
BUT YES, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THE NEED, BUT OF COURSE, EVERYTHING WE DO SPACE CAN BE AN ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY CREATIVE, UM, INNOVATIVE WAYS TO USE OUTSIDE SPACES, UM, WHICH WE LOVE PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS FEASIBLE WITH OUR BUDGET.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD TO USE THE DISCOVERY CENTER EVENT CENTER
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FOR, UM, LAST WEEK'S CHEMISTRY ROAD SHOW.AND IT WAS HUGELY ATTENDED TO, IT WAS LIKE ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR THINGS OVER THE SUMMER, BUT WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA OUTGROW COUNCIL CHAMBERS BASED ON THE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR.
AND SO THEN WE HAD TO PAY FOR, UM, THE USE OF THAT SPACE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WE CAN'T, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, IT'S JUST, AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP PAYING FOR THOSE KINDS OF SPACES.
WE'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY LUCKY, UM, TO, TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT DON'T CHARGE US TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY BENEFIT TOO WITH AN UPTICK IN BUSINESS.
UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT, UM, SPACE ALWAYS IS A CONSIDERATION IN EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE DO HERE.
ONE THING I REALLY APPRECIATE, AND I THINK, UM, TO ME IT SEEMS VERY APPARENT IN THE PROGRAMMING WE'RE OFFERING, IF YOU GUYS CAN SLASH BACK TO TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE UPSTAIRS MEETING, TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE, UM, AS A LIBRARY, HOW DO WE ALIGN OUR EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE, YOU KNOW, EFFORTS OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS AND LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SURVEY THAT WE, WE DUG THROUGH REALLY DEEPLY.
WE DID SOME, YOU WEREN'T ON THE BOARD YET, BUT WE DID SOME REALLY BIG DEEP DIVE WORKING BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT, UM, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY PRIORITIES IN FLIGHT.
SO WHILE WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY THE CAPITAL TO DO LIKE THIS MASSIVE OUT BUILD, SO IN THE INTERIM, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR TURN, HOW WE SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THE OTHER GROUPS, AND WE CAME UP, THERE WAS THREE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS AREAS OF NEED.
AND I, I LOVE SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE REALLY LEANED INTO THAT BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THERE CLEARLY IS A NEED FOR IT AND, AND WE'RE MEETING MORE SENIORS THAT HADN'T COME ANYWAY.
AND SO SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT SOME SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WAS APPARENT ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AT THE TIME, WHICH I THINK THAT SENTIMENT HAS CHANGED, WAS THAT THERE WAS AT ONE POINT SOME OF A, A WONDERING OR CONCERN ABOUT BUILDING STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS WITH FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND SO I WAS REALLY PROUD OF, YOU KNOW, OUR ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO, TO KIND OF OFFER THAT PROGRAM AT THE TIME JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT VERY LONG.
THERE WAS A LOT OF STAFF TRANSITION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE A REALLY GOOD TEAMMATE IN THE COMMUNITY IS TO, WHILE WE'RE WAITING OUR TURN PATIENTLY AND RESPECTFULLY THINKING ABOUT HOW ARE THE NEEDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY, HOW CAN WE MEET THOSE NEEDS WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE BEING THE STEWARDS, THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO BUILDING COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY ON AND IT IS SO CLEAR.
AND THE THIRD AREA WAS TEEN PROGRAMMING.
AND YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, WE STILL SEE THAT PREVALENCE OF TEEN PROGRAMMING AS WELL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TEEN CENTER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK I'VE SPOKEN TO THE TEAM ADVISORY BOARD A FEW TIMES, UH, BUT JUST A QUICK UPDATE.
THEY, UM, DESIGNED SHIRTS ON THEIR OWN.
THEY'RE A VERY CREATIVE GROUP.
UM, AND THEN THEY BROUGHT CONSULT TO OUR
THE GROUP WAS THAT THEY VOTED TO PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, AND SO THEY HAVE THE SHIRTS.
AND THEN LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE MAYBE, MAYBE IT WAS WEEK BEFORE LAST, UM, WE HAD, WE HAVE A CRICKET HERE IN THE LIBRARY AND WE PULLED THAT OUT AND WE GOT SOME SUPPLIES AND THEY PERSONALIZED, UM, WHETHER IT WAS THEIR NAME OR SOME SAYING OR WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO ON THEIR, ON THEIR SHIRT.
UM, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN A, A WONDERFUL, UM, PROGRAM.
UM, WE, WE CONTINUE TO GROW IN THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND A LOT OF OUR TEAM ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, WE EITHER VOLUNTEERS, FIRST THEY COME TO GET HOURS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, THEY COME TO UHT ADVISORY BOARD AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, I CAN VOLUNTEER, VOLUNTEER HERE TOO.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF BEEN, UM, A GOOD, UH, KIND OF CONNECTION THERE.
UM, BUT THEY ARE CREATING THEIR OWN PROGRAMS AND WE'RE JUST FACILITATING 'EM.
UM, THEY ARE CREATING A, A MAKER FAIR AND WE, WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING USE THE GIN FOR THIS, WHERE THEY INVITE OTHER ENTREPRENEURS, OTHER TEEN ENTREPRENEURS TO COME SELL THEIR GOODS.
UM, AND, UH, THEY'RE ALSO PUTTING TOGETHER FOR THE FALL A COLLEGE AND, UH, CAREER READINESS EXPO, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN AT ECHECK, BUT THEY WANNA DO IT, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR TEENS.
SO WE'RE GONNA PARTNER, UM, WITH THE ISD LIBRARIANS AND REALLY PROMOTE THAT AND INVITE KIDS TO COME OUT.
AND IT'S GOING BE JUST US HELPING THEM, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WITH ALL THE IDEAS.
THEY COME UP WITH THEIR OWN GRAPHICS FOR, UM, ADVERTISING AND EVERYTHING.
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FOR THE MAKER FAIR, YOU MAY WANNA REACH OUT TO THE CHAMBER BECAUSE THEY HAVE STARTED AN INITIATIVE THROUGH THEUM, AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO COLLABORATE THERE.
UM, SO AS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK, UM, KRISTEN WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLARIFIED ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE LIBRARY FEASIBILITY STUDY.
UM, THAT WAY IF YOU WERE ASKED THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT FOR, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? AND ALSO, AGAIN, THE REALIZATION THAT LIKE, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THE LIBRARY A NEW BIG BUILDING TOMORROW, LIKE THIS TELLS US DO WE EVEN NEED THAT? YEAH.
HOW CAN WE EVEN BETTER UTILIZE THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US NOW? AND SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP US INFORM NEXT STEPS, IF ANY, OR HOW DO WE STREAMLINE RESOURCES TO MEET THE, THE NEEDS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UM, JUST THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT RESEARCH AND HAVING THAT READY, GIVING THE LAB A PREVIEW OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN ALSO BE GOOD ADVOCATES AND STEWARD WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING US.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A HOT TOPIC AND I JUST, I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS AROUND THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY SETTING? UM, NO.
WHAT I WANTED TO ADD WAS, UH, I, I DO THINK THAT THE IDEAL OF, UM, KIND OF GOING, LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE PERSPECTIVE OF TY IT INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER, BECAUSE WE HAD A MEETING, I FORGET WHICH SCHOOL IT WAS MAYBE A YEAR AGO OR SO, AND WE WERE LISTING ALL THE RESOURCES THAT THE LIBRARY PROVIDES.
AND AFTER KIND OF STEPPING BACK, IT WAS REALLY MORE OF WHAT DOES THE LIBRARY NOT PROVIDE, RIGHT? UH, THAT WAS KIND OF A HARDER QUESTION.
THE PROGRAMMING TO, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.
IT REALLY IS OUR, THIS IS THE HUDDLE COMMUNITY CENTER, REALLY.
AND SO, UH, TO TIE THAT IN TO, TO, IF THEY ARE GONNA DO ONE THAT MAY BE OUR OUR BEST BET.
ANY OTHER LAST COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE THE AGENDA ITEMS? OH, AND I JUST WANNA NOTE, UM, IT'S 6 37.
TANYA WARD IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, AND I BELIEVE I ANNOUNCED THIS EARLIER AT BEGINNING THE MEETING, BUT MELLY LINAS IS ALSO ONLINE VIRTUALLY FOR ATTENDANCES PURPOSES.
THANK YOU LADIES FOR JOINING US.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S LISTENING IN ALSO.
UM, I'M SO, UM, INSPIRED, EXCITED, JUST LIKE JAZZED THAT THERE'S SO MANY INTERESTING THINGS HAPPENING CURRENTLY.
SO, UM, AND I'M, SOME OF MY COMMENTS, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND, AND SHARE, ANGELA AND I ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE LEARNING THAT WE DID TOGETHER THAT I THOUGHT WAS INCREDIBLE.
UM, SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
SO KRISTEN HAS INVITED US TO KIND OF, SHE, SHE BROUGHT US A SECTION ITEMS, SHE BROUGHT US CALENDARS, SO, SO THAT WE COULD MAYBE COMMIT TO ONE OR TWO ITEMS HERE.
UM, ALSO, LIKE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FRIENDS OF, OR THE HU PUBLIC, HU FRIENDS, HPL FRIENDS.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE WAS A FRIEND TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY ORGANIZATION.
UM, EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REFRESH PAPERWORK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT ORGANIZATION IS GOING THROUGH TRANSITION.
IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT A, A NEW 5 0 1 C3 FEE FORM.
UM, AND SO THE HBL FRIENDS IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT.
AND, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, TWO, TWO YEARS AGO, UPSTAIRS IN THE OTHER ROOM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD AND THE PURPOSE OF A FRIENDS ORGANIZATION.
SO THE FRIENDS ORGANIZATION'S PURPOSE IS TO BE THE FUNDRAISING ARM, THE KIND OF LIKE THE, THE RIGHT HAND PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THE, THE LIBRARY EFFORTS.
SOMETIMES WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED TO, UM, KIND OF, UH, DO FUNDRAISING TO DO EXTRA THINGS LIKE THE, THE SEED LIBRARY THAT WE HAVE NOW, OR A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT HERE IN THIS LIBRARY WAS FUNDED AND DONATED BY THAT OTHER FRIENDS GROUP.
AND SO, UM, WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU HEAR OF SOMEONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY, THE, UM, HBL FRIENDS IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET THEIR FOUNDING BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN FINISH UP THE 5 0 1 C3 APPLICATION STATUS.
SO A LOT OF THE PAPERWORK IS DONE, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A FOUNDING BOARD.
I THINK THE BYLAWS ARE CLOSE TO DONE.
UM, AND SO I'M ALSO MEETING WITH SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS.
THERE'S NOT REALLY A BOARD IN PLACE, IT'S JUST A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS, UM, TO HELP WITH, UM, PUTTING SOME THINGS ONLINE AS FAR AS APPLICATIONS JUST TO KIND OF MAKE THINGS EASIER, PUT SOME MARKETING STUFF TOGETHER.
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KNOW OF SOMEBODY THEY ARE AND SOMEBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN BOARD SERVICE IN A YOUNG BOARD, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THEIR THUMBPRINT ON THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.UM, I DON'T THINK LIKE TIME INTENSITY, UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE LIFT, AND EVEN IF IT'S, UM, THIS ISN'T IDEAL, BUT I THINK EVEN IF THEY CAN TEMPORARILY SAY, I CAN BE ON YOUR BOARD FOR SIX MONTHS JUST TO GET THE, THE STATUS GOING.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE WANNA START DOING IS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE ARE INITIATIVES THAT CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT THE FRIENDS ORGANIZATION COULD HELP FUND, UM, IT IS BETTER TO HAVE A 5 0 1 C3 SO PEOPLE CAN DONATE FREELY AND ALSO GET THAT TAX, UM, BENEFIT FROM IT TOO.
SO, UM, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
CAN I JUST, JESSICA MONITORING TIME THIS COMMENT, UHHUH
AND SO THEY HAVE A MEETING COMING UP, I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST THE 11TH, CURRENT AT ROCK BUILDING.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, INVITE THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE MEMBERS OF OUR HPL FRIENDS GROUP, TRY TO BRAINSTORM SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
UM, AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS A, UM, A REALLY AWESOME THING TANYA, UH, TO DO TO KIND OF HELP US WITH THE
AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, TANYA.
ALSO, IF THERE'S ANY TIME, SO I ALWAYS TRY TO THINK OF LIKE, HOW CAN WE BETTER LEVERAGE THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE IN THE COMMUNITY? THERE'S NO SENSE IN DUPLICATING EFFORTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE MAKER FAIR, I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON MORE BUILDING OUT THAT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO ANYTIME YOU SEE WASTE THAT'S HIGH IN OTHER EFFORTS WHERE WE CAN EITHER HELP LIFT THAT LOAD OR IF THEY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT AND THEY NEED SOMEONE TO KIND OF CO-SPONSOR AND PLAY FOR THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN, UM, KIND OF THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS AND PERHAPS, UM, RATHER THAN DUPLICATING EFFORTS OR EXPENDING THE SAME RESOURCES THAT WE CAN TEAM UP, UM, YOU CAN MAKE OF MUCH GREATER IMPACT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, EXHAUSTING RESOURCES.
SO I BE THINKING OF WAYS TO DO THAT IN ADDITION TO COMING TO AN EVENT.
THIS, THIS, UH, NOT, UM, DO WE KNOW WHEN THE NEXT FRIENDS MEETING AT LEAST? YES.
IT, UM, ACTUALLY WE MEET MONTHLY.
WE MEET ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY EVENING FROM FIVE TO SIX.
UM, BUT IF WE HAVE A FUNDRAISER, WE DON'T DO A MEETING AND A FUNDRAISER.
SO IN AUGUST, WE'RE GOING TO MEET IN OUR BIG FUNDRAISER BLIND DATE WITH BOOK, UM, WHICH IS HAPPENING AT, UM, THE HAWAIIAN BAR ON AUGUST THE 20TH FROM FIVE TO SEVEN.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DO IT TWICE IN ONE MONTH.
AND IF YOU HAVE NOT GONE TO THE BLIND DATE WITH THE BOOK, AND I'M JUST GONNA HONEST, I HAVEN'T, BUT I'VE HEARD RAVE REVIEWS.
SO PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO WITH YOUR GIRLFRIENDS OR GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER.
UM, YOU GO IN, YOU, YOU KNOW, PERUSE THE, THE COVERED BOOKS.
IT JUST HAS KIND OF LIKE A, A SMALL DESCRIPTION OF THE TYPE OF BOOKS, ANGELA'S BOOKS.
SHE DECORATED THEM WITH LIKE OLD LIBRARY CARDS AND STICKERS AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, I ALMOST LIKE WANNA JUST KEEP THEM ALL FOR MYSELF,
THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR PREVIOUS TWO THAT WE HAD, BECAUSE THIS ONE WILL HAVE CHILDREN'S AND TWO YEAR BOOKS AS WELL.
UM, WE, UH, SAW IN THE LAST MONDAY WITH THE BOOK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMING AS FAMILIES, WHETHER IT WAS CASINO, THEY WERE GETTING OFF AND THEY, THEY CAME TOGETHER.
THE HUDDLE LIBRARY IS A FAMILY PLACE.
UM, AND SO THE KIDDOS THAT WERE THERE, I COULD SEE THEY WERE JUST, LIKE I SAID, IF WE DO THIS AGAIN, WOULD YOU WANNA, UM, HAVE BOOKS FOR YOUR AGE TOO? SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE BOOKS FOR KIDS, UM, AS WELL, JUST A ANOTHER WAY TO FIND WAYS TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO LOVE OF LEARNING AND LOVE OF READING.
AND I THINK THAT'S SUCH A FUN THING.
UM, WHAT A GREAT PARTNERSHIP THEY HAVE ALSO WITH HEAD OF WINE BAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH, UM, SHARING OF SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO I, I THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT THE EVENTS LIKE THAT ONE WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN MORE REGULARLY BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN PFLUGERVILLE.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE COMING TO THESE EVENTS,
BUT, SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY FUNNY.
SO, UM, OUR, OUR REACH IS, IS ENDLESS.
AND, AND ALSO JUST TO CAVEAT TO THAT, UM, OUR PROGRAMS ARE FREE TO ANYONE.
IT'S NOT JUST THE HO COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LIBRARY CARD TO COME TO PROGRAM.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE FINDING A LOT OF, UH, VILLE FRIENDS AND TAYLOR FRIENDS AND
UM, AS FAR AS OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF BE ON THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW THAT,
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UM, I ATTENDED THE, THE FIRST, UM, WORKSHOP FOR THE FINANCE, UH, FOR THE BUDGET, EXCUSE ME, IT WAS LAST SATURDAY, UH, HERE AT CITY HALL.UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST FORMAL PRESENTATION, MORE OF A DEEP DIVE THIS THURSDAY, UM, FOR CITY COUNCIL.
I SUSPECT THAT MEETINGS GONNA RUN KIND OF LONG.
UM, AND SO IF, IF YOU'RE A NERD ABOUT MEETINGS, LIKE I'M, UH, COME, YOU CAN SIT WITH ME AND LISTEN IN.
UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION SHARED THERE.
I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE OF ALL OF THE, THE COMPETING NEEDS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T ALSO SHARE, YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS OF THE LIBRARY IS LOOKING TO FILL.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE, THE SEVEN OF US, IT'S NOT FOR US.
IT'S, THESE ARE THE THINGS BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID THROUGH SURVEYS, THE FORMAL CITY SURVEY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING LIKE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE, IF THEY ASK LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR? KRISTEN HAS BEEN, SINCE ACTUALLY SHE GOT HERE, AND I'M IN CREDIT JAMES WITH THIS, HE HAD REALLY ENCOURAGED HER TO DO THINGS LIKE, LET'S PUT UP THESE QR CODES.
ANYTIME SOMEONE COMES TO THE LIBRARY, WE GET A SENSE OF WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE.
DID THEY, DID WE HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UM, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE? TRACKING HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WERE HAVING TO TURN AWAY FROM EVENTS TO, TO KIND OF TELL THAT STORY THAT THERE'S A DEMAND THERE.
UM, AGAIN, DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR NEEDS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE'S, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT THAT THIS, THIS IS NOT COMING OUTTA A VACUUM OF LIKE A LACK OF INFORMATION.
AND THEN, UM, ALSO WE, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAD SOME MORE TURNOVER.
SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANGELA AND JAMES HAVE REQUESTED TO GET THEIR TERMS, UH, RE-UPPED.
WE HAVE ONE POSITION THAT WAS LEFT TO FILL.
UM, SO THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW AND I THOUGHT, UM, I WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE PROCESS IS THE BOARD CHAIR GOES, UM, AND SITS IN AND ASKS LIKE RESOURCE QUESTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE MAY HAVE A NEW APPOINTEE ON THURSDAY, UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE EXCITING BECAUSE THEN WE GET BACK TO A FULL BOARD AGAIN.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE ONLY MEET QUARTERLY, BUT I JUST HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE THAT HOPEFULLY OUR VIRTUAL PARTICIPANTS HEAR THIS BECAUSE I MEAN IT SO HEARTFELT WHEN, UM, WHEN WE START ON THE BOARD, REALLY THE THREE OF US, WE WERE ALMOST LIKE A BRAND NEW BOARD AND KIND OF GETTING OUR LEGS UNDER US, FIGURING OUT WHERE THINGS WERE.
AND SO, UM, IT'S BEEN REALLY EXCITING TO SEE HOW STABLE AND HOW COHESIVE THIS GROUP HAS BEEN AND HOW LIKE, LASER FOCUSED AND PASSIONATE AND REALLY THOUGHTFUL AND NOT ONLY THEIR GIFTED TIME, BUT CONSIDERING LIKE, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BEST SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT WORK CONTINUE.
UM, WE ONLY MEET QUARTERLY, SO ATTENDANCE IS SO IMPORTANT.
UM, AND SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UM, HAVE NOVEMBER 3RD ON YOUR, UM, YOUR CALENDAR THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
UM, AND THEN LATER IN THE MEETING WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE, WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF MY OTHER STUFF WILL COME LATER ON THE AGENDA, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I ALSO WANTED TO BRAG ON KRISTEN.
KRISTEN HAS BEEN REALLY WORKING OVERTIME AND PROVIDING SOME CLARIFYING INFORMATION, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE INFORMED WITH SOME OF THE, ASK THE PURPOSE OF SOME OF THE REQUESTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I HAVE HEARD REALLY POSITIVE THINGS FROM SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME WITH QUESTIONS.
AND THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED, ESPECIALLY THE NEWER MEMBERS, EXCITED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT KIND OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING, BUT ALSO THE VALUE ADD.
UM, AND REALLY THE IMPRESSIVE JOB THAT HAS BEEN, UM, EXECUTED BY YOU GUYS WITH LIMITED STAFF, LIMITED RESOURCES, AND NOT, NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GRATEFUL FOR THE RESOURCES AND STAFF THAT WE HAVE, BUT LOOKING AT THE DEMAND THAT YOU GUYS ARE FILLING.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALSO YOUR ABILITY TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE, UM, KIND OF WHAT THOSE EFFORTS ARE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A, A REALLY GOOD CONTEXTUAL, AGAIN, A FULL PICTURE OF KIND OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
WE'RE SO HAPPY THAT YOU ARE STILL HERE.
UM, SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY CHAIR COMMENTS.
UM, I KNOW, SO KRISTEN HAD TOLD ME SOMETHING ABOUT FIVE TWO, AND I'M JUST GONNA, I LISTENED, BUT I DIDN'T ACTUALLY HEAR IT.
SO THEN AS FAR AS OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, YOU HAVE THEM IN THE BACK OF THE PACKET WE'RE APPROVING.
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SIGN THAT.I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT THEY WERE IN OUR PACKET.
SO WE HAVE TWO, UM, TWO MEETINGS APPROVE.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER JUNE 2ND WAS OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION TO KIND OF BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, AGAIN, SO THE LAST TIME WE DID SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT OUR DIRECTION WAS IN LINE WITH CITY DIRECTION AND CURRENT NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'LL GIVE EVERYONE A, A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK THAT OVER.
SEE IF I'LL PROBABLY FIX THAT BEFORE YOU SIGN.
SO DO YOU, YOU'RE ON THE TYPO BINDER, AREN'T YOU? YEAH.
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE MEETINGS FOR MINUTES FROM MAY 5TH AND JUNE 2ND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY JAMES MATLOW.
SECOND BY KYLE, ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? NOPE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED WITH THE EDITS.
UH, THE TITLE CORRECTED FOUR ZERO.
UM, SO WE ARE ALSO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE ALSO CONFIRMING WHEN OUR MEMBERS PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN VOTING.
UM, KRISTEN AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I BELIEVE AS LONG AS WE'RE IN FORUM IN A PHYSICAL LOCATION WHERE THE MEETING HASN'T HAPPENED, THEY CAN, UM, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME CLARIFYING INFORMATION, SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T REALLY HEAR, UM, THE VIRTUAL PARTICIPANTS CHIMING IN.
BUT WE'RE GONNA, UM, GET THAT CLARIFIED SO THAT WE KNOW THAT DEFINITIVELY.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A FORUM EITHER WAY, SO, OKAY.
SO ON LAST WEEK, UM, ANGELA AND I AND KRISTEN GOT TOGETHER AND WE PARTICIPATED IN SOME VIRTUAL TRAINING.
WE SAT TOGETHER AND LEARNED TOGETHER.
UM, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, IT IS, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DURING THE DAY DURING THE WORKDAY, SO PERHAPS NEXT YEAR IF YOU GUYS HAVE AVAILABILITY, WE CAN DO IT AS A WHOLE GROUP.
BUT WHEN I TELL YOU THERE WAS SOME REALLY INSPIRING, INTERESTING, UM, INFORMATION SHARED, I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT ENOUGH.
AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND JAMES KNOWS THIS ABOUT ME.
WHEN YOU'RE ON A BOARD WITH PEOPLE, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO LEARN TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARN IN THE CONTEXT OF THE, YOUR CURRENT BOARD FORMATION.
UM, SOME OF THESE BOARDS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WERE LIKE SUPER, LIKE NATIONAL BOARDS WE'RE NOT THAT, RIGHT? WE WE'RE A LOCAL BOARD.
AND SO EVERYONE IS COMPRISED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ORGANIZED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, THEIR BYLAWS LOOK DIFFERENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WE WALKED AWAY WITH SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND ALSO JUST REMEMBERING WHY WE ARE ON THIS BOARD, RIGHT? EVERYONE CAME IN HERE FOR A REASON.
HOPEFULLY YOU STILL HAVE THAT, THAT PASSION THAT YOU CAME TO THE, THE TABLE WITH STILL BEING MET AND, AND MAYBE EVEN GROWING.
UM, SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS JUST SHARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARN AND THEY GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ME QUESTIONS.
AND HOPEFULLY WE SELL IT SO HARD THAT NEXT YEAR YOU GUYS BE LEARNING WITH US.
UM, AND THEN CHRIST CAN BUY YOU A BREAKFAST TALK.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EXISTED UNTIL I WENT TO MY AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE AT THE END OF JUNE.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE SESSIONS ACTUALLY ATTENDED AN HPL SCHOOL.
IT'S NOT HPL FRIENDS, BUT A, A FRIENDS IN THE LIBRARY SESSION JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION WITH THAT.
AND THEN I ATTENDED A SESSION ON BOARDS, UM, AND COMMISSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIBRARY BOARDS, BUT, UM, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AS A TRAINING AND I WAS LIKE, SO I, I SENT IT OUT TO EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY UPON MY RETURN.
BUT I KNOW IT WAS A SUPER QUICK TURNAROUND.
AND NOW THAT WE KNOW IT EXISTS, I DO WANNA SAY, UM, AND WE,
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WE TRIED IT.UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, SO AS SOON I JOINED THEIR MAILING LIST AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE DATE FOR 2026, UM, THEN WE CAN MAYBE PLAN, UH, FOR THAT A LOT BETTER.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY, THE FUNDING THAT WE CAN REQUEST FROM COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE A, A BUDGET FOR TRAINING, I BELIEVE EVEN BY PARKS AND REC THAT THIS UPCOMING MEETING IS GOING.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, REQUESTING TRAINING FUNDS.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THIS TRAINING, UM, IS IF WE, EVEN IF ALL OF US CAME, WE COULD HAVE, IT WAS A GROUP RATE, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE WITH THE GROUP RATE, IT WAS, AND I'M, I KNOW I'M MISSPEAKING ON THE EXACT AMOUNT.
THERE WAS AROUND 200 TO $225 FOR EVERYBODY TO, TO ATTEND THIS FALL.
IT STARTED AT NINE 30 AND I THINK IT WENT ON UNTIL ABOUT THREE.
THERE WERE SOME OPTIONAL THINGS AT THE END.
THERE WAS A, LIKE AN AUTHOR'S TEA AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY RELATED TO BOARDS.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL ONCE I GET THE DATES MAYBE FOR US TO DISCUSS.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL WANT ON THE CALENDARS AND ATTENDANCE AND THAT'S REASONABLE FOR VERY MM-HMM
AND IT WAS REALLY GOOD TRAINING.
AND, AND I WILL BE THE, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, I AM NOT WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A LIBRARY PERSON.
I BECOME A LIBRARY PERSON BY BEING ON THE SPORTS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ORDER TO BE THIS, TO WORK WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD.
UM, SO FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME THAT IS NOT A LIBRARIAN, UM, AND DID NOT SPEND MEAN BESIDES LIKE IN COLLEGE AND GRAD SCHOOL, THAT'S WHEN I DID THE LIBRARY TIME.
UM, IT IS KIND OF, YEAH, BUT, UM, I MEAN, GRAD SCHOOL KILLED MY LOVE OF READING.
UM, BUT I THINK IT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE AWARE OF, LIKE SOME OF THE NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OF THEM.
AND ALSO, UM, JUST GETTING EXPOSED TO DIFFERENT WAYS TO ENGAGE YOUR, YOUR LIBRARY PATRONS AND, AND FIGURING OUT LIKE HOW CAN YOU ENGAGE THEM.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND TO BE REALLY INTERESTING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WITH US NEXT TIME WE COME TOGETHER IN NOVEMBER, THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR FULL BOARD, UM, IS THIS IDEA OF A COMMITMENT FORM.
SO WE ARE GOING TO, IT IS KIND OF LIKE A, A, A BOARD MEMBER AGREEMENT, BUT ALSO GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO SAY THIS, BUT THIS IS THE OTHER THING THAT I'M COMING FOR.
IT KIND OF GROUNDS US IN WHY WE'RE ON THE BOARD TOGETHER AND WHAT DOES THAT WORK THAT WE FEEL SO PASSIONATE ABOUT AND WHAT VALUE DO WE FEEL LIKE THIS BRINGS.
UM, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, WITH YOU.
MAYBE WE COULD DRAFT IT AND THEN BRING IT FORWARD.
AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO TOGETHER.
UM, JUST AGAIN TO KIND OF RECOMMIT OUR FOCUS AND KIND OF OUR, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.
I HAVE THAT MY LIST TOO FROM THE TRAINING AND ALSO THAT WE DO IT EVERY YEAR.
AND JUST LIKE STRATEGIC PLANNING SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU TOUCH UPON.
YOU CAN'T HAVE LIKE A WILD NEW PLAN EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE OF DIRECTION AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO FRAME IT.
AND THEN PERHAPS WE THINK ABOUT ANNUALLY, OH, SOMETHING ALSO THAT'S ALL PARTICULAR, BUT LIKE, NO, I'M SO WEIRD.
BUT BASICALLY LIKE YOU HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT HAPPEN ANNUAL, YOU WANT YOUR MEETINGS TO BE INTENTIONAL AND PURPOSEFUL AND, AND ALSO THAT YOUR BOARD MEMBERS WALK BY FEELING LIKE THAT WAS A GOOD USE OF MY TIME.
NOT THAT I'M JUST LIKE RUBBER STAMPING EVERYTHING.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IS LIKE, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPEN HAPPEN ANNUALLY? LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAP THOSE THINGS OUT ON OUR, OUR MEETINGS SO THAT WE DON'T EVER MISS IT.
LIKE WHEN IT IS TIME TO RECERTIFY FOR OUR, OUR, UH, LIBRARY CERTIFICATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN LIKE, WHEN SHOULD WE DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, BOARD OFFICERS AND LIKE HAVE THOSE THINGS BUILT OUT, BUT THEN THAT BUILDS OUT TIME.
LIKE WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE NEED DISCUSSION OR WE USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING AWARENESS TO THINGS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT YOU PROVIDED TIME FOR US TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE WE KNOW THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.
PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS COME IN, IN THE PUBLIC TO OUR MEETINGS.
BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHOWCASE THINGS TO, AGAIN, LIKE WE NOT TALKED ABOUT HERE, MAYBE PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THAT GIFTED ADVANCE CARE PLANNING AND WHAT VALUE THAT MIGHT BRING.
AND IT MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT COULD UTILIZE SOMEONE TO WALK THEM THROUGH HOW TO DO LIKE A-A-D-N-R OR STUFF LIKE THAT AND HAVE THE, THE, UM, IES HERE TO DO THAT.
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UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN SUPPORT AND THINK ABOUT FUTURE BOARD MEMBERS.SO WHERE WOULD THOSE PEOPLE COME FROM? COULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE A, UH, A MATRIX WHERE WE, WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD? ARE THERE ANY GAPS CURRENTLY? SO LET'S SAY JAMES WASN'T A FINANCE GROUP, BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A FINANCE PERSON AND WE DO THIS ASSESSMENT, WE'RE LIKE, OH GOSH, WHEN IT'S TIME TO START FILLING AND RECRUITING FOR POSITIONS, MAYBE WE NEED TO START RECRUITING FOR SOMEONE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A FINANCE MINDED THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO REALLY BEING, UM, THOUGHTFUL ABOUT DIVERSITY OF SKILL WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS SO THAT YOU DO HAVE A WELL-ROUNDED BOARD.
UM, AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS TOO WAS HAVING SOMEBODY FROM THE YOUNG ADULT COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FRESHLY 19 OR UM, 20, UM, TO JOIN AS WELL BECAUSE THEIR PERSPECTIVES ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
UM, THAT'S ABOUT WITH US, JUST FOR OUR TEAM PLAN, UH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING AND PLAN.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION TOO.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
OR MAYBE INCLUDING LIKE ALLOWING SOMEBODY FROM THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD TO COME AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT A VOTING MEMBER, BUT PERHAPS THEY HAVE A SETTING AGENDA ITEM WHERE THEY CAN SHARE THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO THAT HELPS US STAY GROUNDED IN THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.
BECAUSE AS YOUNG AS I LIKE TO THINK I'M, I'M NOT THAT YOUNG ANYMORE,
UM, AND SO IF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SAID WAS IMPORTANT TO US IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMMING FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY STAGE IN LIFE.
I THINK THAT WE CAN SAY WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME OLDER PERSPECTIVES PRESENT.
WE CAN PROBABLY TAP INTO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS BY THE PARTICIPANTS, BUT I THINK IT ALSO IS BUILDING A PIPELINE OF GETTING A VOICE AND SPACE FOR OUR YOUTH THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR THEM IN POSITIONS LIKE THIS.
AND SO PERHAPS THAT THE PERSON THAT'S COMING AS LIKE A, A RESOURCE EVENTUALLY CAN REV INTO BOARD MEMBER, YOU KNOW, RENEE TURNED 18, SO I COULD GO ON AND ON.
IT WAS REALLY A GOOD USE OF MY TIME.
IT WAS WELL WORTH TAKING THE DAY OFF.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR FINDING THAT.
SOMETHING I I NOTED WAS THAT THE 10 THINGS THAT EVERY BOARD MEMBER SHOULD KNOW, THEY TALKED TO HAVING A JOB DESCRIPTION MM-HMM
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I, I JUST SAID, YEAH, DO IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A MISTAKE.
SO IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC JOB DESCRIPTION, I, AND THEN I THINK, UM, ARE THEY ABLE TO GO ONLINE AND SEE THE ONLINE MODULES THAT WE SAW? UM, I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEM AND I, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF THE, THE MONEY THAT WE PAID FOR OUR WATCHING ALLOWS US TO SHARE IT.
SO LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT AND I'LL GET BACK TO Y'ALL.
I THOUGHT THAT WHOLE, UM, CHART ON THE TRUSTEE PROJECT WHERE THEY IDEAS WERE SUPPORTING, I JUST WERE COLLABORATING IDEAS FOR SELECTING MORE MEMBERS THAN I IDEAS
I THOUGHT THAT WAS FULL OF, SO, SO THERE'S SOMEBODY IN KENTUCKY THAT WAS DOING A RESEARCH PROJECT AND I FELT SO BAD FOR HER.
AND SO AS SHE WENT ON, SHE GOES, WELL, THIS IS TAKING LONGER.
UM, BUT SHE WAS TRYING TO DISCERN LIKE, UM, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGING FOR BOARDS, BUT SPECIFICALLY LOOKING EXCLUSIVELY AT LIBRARY BOARDS, ALL TYPES OF LIBRARY BOARDS.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL AND SHE, THAT'S WHERE WE LEARNED ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS TOO.
THAT OFTENTIMES THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE LIBRARY BOARDS, AGAIN, THE, THE SNAPSHOT THAT THEY WERE USING WAS KENTUCKY EXCLUSIVELY.
RIGHT? UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS, IT DID NOT AT ALL EVEN CLOSELY ALIGN TO THE WORK COMPOSITION.
'CAUSE GENERALLY IT WAS OLDER WHITE WOMEN, LIKE 65 OR OLDER, OR EVEN OLDER THAN THAT.
IT'S LIKE IN THEIR SEVENTIES MAYBE.
UM, AND SO WHEN YOU ASK YOURSELF ABOUT, LIKE, IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A BOARD COMPRISED OF A MORE REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLING, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER HOLDING YOUR MEETINGS AT NIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T GET OFF OF WORK ROOM DAY.
UM, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS I THOUGHT WERE INTERESTING AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE ONES, JUST BECAUSE SEEING HOW DO YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT PROBABLY ARE NOT BEING UN INTENTIONALLY, IT'S JUST THAT'S WE GO TO SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW? AND ALSO IN THAT STUDY, A LOT OF HERE'S HOW THE BOARD PERCEIVED OH YEAH.
THE DUTIES AND THE PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING, AND THEN HERE'S HOW THE BOARD MEMBERS PERCEIVE.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE REALLY RELATED.
I THINK THAT WOULD, I MEAN, IF WE'RE ABLE TO WATCH SOMETHING TOGETHER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY INSIGHTFUL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER, LIKE, WE LOVE OUR LIBRARY, BUT WE'RE NOT THE EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD, RIGHT? WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE GUARDIANS OF THE LIBRARY AND WE ENTRUST THE STAFF TO DO THE LIBRARY STAFF STUFF THAT THEY ARE TRAINED AND SKILLED AND
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KNOWLEDGEABLE IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.EVEN SAY, UH, THERE'S THE SLIDESHOW OF THAT MM-HMM
I KNOW IT WAS A LONG PRESENTATION.
I I I WOULD THINK THAT THEY, IT WOULD BE OKAY, BUT I, I WANT TO GET WRITTEN.
THERE WAS ALSO, UM, A SUGGESTION THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL BUSINESS, RIGHT? FOR THE MOST PART.
WE LIKE COME HERE FOUR TIMES A YEAR SOMETIMES, UH, FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS AS WELL.
BUT, UM, TO HAVE SORT OF JUST A, LIKE WE ENDED UP WITH THAT, UM, THAT DINNER THAT WE HAD IT MM-HMM
UH, CASA LEASE GOES, THAT WAS THE DEIB COMMISSION AND US, BECAUSE WE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT ATTENDANCE, REMEMBER AT THE, UM, THE WORKING COMMISSION.
UM, AND NOT EVERYBODY COULD ATTEND, BUT THOSE OF US THAT COULD, IT WAS SUCH A COOL LIKE WAY JUST TO BE CASUAL AND NOT, AND NOT, WE DID TALK SOME BUSINESS.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT HAVING THAT JOINT WORK SESSION, UM, BETWEEN OUR TWO BOARDS BECAUSE THERE ARE DEFINITELY, UM, SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE.
BUT IT WAS GREAT JUST TO KNOW, GET TO KNOW PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I SEE THEM AT MEETINGS, I SEE THEM AT
BUT JUST, JUST TO, TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
LIKE NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE KUMBAYA STYLE, BUT MORE JUST LIKE A, HAVE LIKE AN ANNUAL LITTLE, LIKE A LITTLE GET TOGETHER THAT'S, THAT'S CASUAL.
WE CAN KIND OF NOT BE, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL OF THIS, BUT JUST KIND OF USING NO.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE INTERACTIONS WHERE YOU FIND OUT KIND OF ACCIDENTALLY SOMETIMES LIKE THE THINGS THAT P AND D FOR EXAMPLE IS INTERESTED IN, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY GOT GOING OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL WE'RE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT UNSTRUCTURED TIME TOGETHER, THAT'S PURPOSEFUL AND INTENTIONAL, THOSE CONNECTIONS DON'T HAPPEN.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO MORE OF THAT.
AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN MY CHAIR COMMENTS IF I CAN.
UM, I WAS SPEAKING WITH RICK PENSON, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF, UM, P AND Z AND HE HAS EXPRESSED A STRONG INTEREST IN A PLANNING, LIKE A, A JOINT WORK SESSION TOGETHER.
AND YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK LATER TODAY ABOUT OUR JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE DEIB COMMISSION.
SO I JUST THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN ALL LEVERAGE OR, YOU KNOW, OUR EFFORTS IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY.
TALK ABOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TIME MANAGEMENT, BUT THEN I WOULD BE OVER.
ANYTHING ELSE THERE? ANYTHING ELSE I'LL FRAME? OH YEAH, THIS IS SO GOOD.
KYLE OR JAMES, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, THEY DID DISCUSS LIKE THE NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT OF COURSE THERE'S FOR ALL DIFFERENT SIDES OF BOARDS MM-HMM
UH, DID THEY, WAS THERE SESSIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR LOCAL BOARDS OR WAS IT JUST KIND OF IN BETWEEN? YEAH, IT WAS KIND OF A BROAD, UM, THAT A LOT OF THEM PRESENTED IT IS THESE, THEY'RE, UH, BECAUSE SOME BOARDS ARE DECISION MAKING BOARDS, RIGHT? UM, AND SO THAT, THAT LEARNING WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEY DID GET LIKE MODIFIED VERSIONS BASED ON, UH, WHAT YOUR SITUATION IS.
SO THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT DIDN'T PERTAIN TO US, BUT IT STILL WAS GOOD.
LIKE WE STILL TALKED ABOUT IT.
LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, JUST EVEN KNOWING THAT WE DON'T DO THAT.
SO KNOWING WHERE LIKE THE LINES ARE, YEAH.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE BOARDS, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE CHARTERED, DO FINANCES, LIKE THERE WHOLE SEPARATE ENTITY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TAXING ENTITIES.
LIKE OURS IS NOT LIKE THAT OBVIOUSLY.
SO THEIR TRAINING WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT AND THE THINGS THAT THEY GRAPPLE WITH WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE DO AS AN ADVISORY BOARD VERSUS SAYING LIKE, WE'RE NOT REALLY A DECISION MAKING BOARD COLLECTIVELY, WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRING FORWARD, BUT ULTIMATELY THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
NOTHING ONLINE SAID YOU'RE GONNA CHECK AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN SHARE FROM THAT.
YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE, YEAH, I'LL JUST SEND ONE EMAIL PROBABLY WITHIN, BECAUSE WE WANNA SEE WHAT, WHAT THE COUNCIL SAYS TOO, OR
I WANTED, UM, I WANNA SEE WHAT THEY SAY, BUT I WANNA JUST SEND ONE EMAIL WITH EVERYTHING.
THAT WAY I'M NOT SENDING A BUNCH OF EMAILS, SO MIGHT BE A WEEK OR SO BEFORE I SEND IT.
BUT I WILL SEND, UM, AN UPDATE.
I DON'T EVEN THINK, UM, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO SHARE IN THEIR PORTAL BY SUNDAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE LIKE A MONTH OR SO TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE MATERIALS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
ONTO THE OTHER EXCITING THINGS.
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UM, TO REVIEW THE LAB ORDINANCE, UM, 10 DASH 0 0 4 DASH ZERO AND DISCUSS CREATING BYLAWS MOVING FORWARD.UM, SO YOU WANT ME TO START WITH THE BACKSTORY OR DO YOU WANNA START WITH MY KRISTEN? UH, WELL I'LL START WITH MY PART OF IT.
UM, SO ONE OF OUR FIRST, THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING.
IT WAS IN AUGUST, LIKE AUGUST 5TH.
AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED IN THAT MEETING WAS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE TERMINOLOGY BYLAWS WERE USED, BUT IT WAS ESSENTIALLY LIKE, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR POLICIES? LIKE WHAT FOR, FOR MEETING AND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, UM, I STARTED, UM, WITH, UM, CITY SECRETARY AND SHE FOUND, UM, THE DOCUMENT THAT I'M SHOWING TO YOU RIGHT NOW, THIS IS TOWARDS THE END OF OCTOBER, I MEAN, UH, AUGUST.
BUT SHE SAID THIS IS FROM LITERALLY, UM, MARCH 18TH, 2010, WHICH IS QUITE OLD.
AND SO, UM, SHE SAID, GIVE ME SOME TIME TO SEE WHAT ELSE I CAN FIND.
AND SO WITH THE TRAINING THAT WE, THAT WE DID, UM, THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, I WAS LIKE, I'M GONNA PULL UP ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I ALSO KNEW THAT COMING UP, LIKE THURSDAY'S MEETING THAT THE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE, THEY ARE HAVING NEW BYLAWS APPROVED.
SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, SO I REACHED BACK OUT, UM, LAST WEEK AND I SAID, HEY, DID YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING THAT WAS MORE RECENT? UM, SHE SAID, NO, THIS WAS IT.
AND THEN I SAID, OKAY, WELL TELL ME ABOUT OTHER BOARDS, UH, WHERE, WHO HAS UPDATED BYLAWS? AND SHE SAID IT WAS JUST THE HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
UM, AND SO I SHOULD PROBABLY WORDED THIS DIFFERENTLY ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GONNA DO ANY LIKE, UM, WE'RE JUST REVIEWING IT TODAY, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT SEEING WHAT IT SAYS BECAUSE THE REALITY IS WE'RE IN 2025.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISCUSSION ON SOME CHANGING.
I KNOW THAT, UM, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS IF WE WERE TO CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE WOULD APPROVE IT AT, AT THE BOARD LEVEL, THE VOTING MEMBERS, WE APPROVE IT HERE FIRST, AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL FOR THEM TO APPROVE ANY CHANGES.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND.
UM, REMEMBER HOW WE HAD THAT MYSTERIOUS NOTEBOOK THAT WAS NEVER FOUND
UM, BUT UM, THIS IS AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY HAS IN THEIR RECORDS, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT PAPERWORK THAT GOES ALONG WITH LIBRARY ADVISOR.
SO ALONG THE SAME VEIN, AGAIN, WE ARE GONNA KEEP REMEMBERING OUR TIME UPSTAIRS.
TWO YEARS AGO, IF YOU REMEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHY SOME PEOPLE'S TERMS ENDED IN SEPTEMBER AND STARTED IN JUNE, AND EVERYBODY HAD DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND UM, AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY I HAD ASKED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, NOT ALWAYS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WORD TERMS ARE
AND SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY WERE TO NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH OUT THEIR TERM, YOU WOULD APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE FOR THE, LIKE, THE REMAINDER OF THIS TERM.
AND THEN EVERYONE'S ROTATING AT KIND OF THE SAME TIME SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, EVERY, WELL NOT EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME GENERALLY SPEAKING THEIR STAGGER TERMS. AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE A, A TON OF TURNOVER ALL AT ONCE.
AND EVERYONE'S REALLY CLEAR ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY'RE TURNED IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO I THINK, UM, WITH THE COMBINATION OF, UM, THE, THE LAB ITSELF, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE PRACTICES CHANGED.
AND LIKE WHEN I WAS READING THIS, I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHEN WE STEPPED INTO IT, WE WERE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD LIKE UNIQUE QUARTERLY AND THERE'S SEVEN MEMBERS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER IS PERHAPS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO SIT DOWN, LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY, UM, IF THERE IS A TEMPLATE WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
OR IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS ANOTHER DOCUMENT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER.
SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE WE JUST HAVEN'T LOCATED IT YET, THAT IS MORE CURRENT THAN THIS.
BUT IN THE ACCENT OF ANYTHING ELSE NEW, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING ITSELF, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY REFRESH, USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO ASK OURSELVES LIKE, ARE THESE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING? UM, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE ARE NOT DOING THAT WE SHOULD? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT PERHAPS THE, THE LAB, UM, KIND OF TRANSITION A LITTLE BIT, UM, BECAUSE OF A VERY ACTIVE FRIENDS ORGANIZATION, PRE COVID, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE DON'T, LIKE WE SET VISION, VISION AND MISSION, BUT WE DON'T, UM, MAKE DECISIONS ON
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THE OPERATION OF THE LIBRARY.SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE WAS A FULL TIME LIBRARIAN AT THIS TIME OR IF THAT WAS A PART-TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME THINK THAT PERHAPS THESE MINUTES OR THIS ORDINANCE WOULD PROBABLY MADE A LOT OF SENSE BACK THEN, BUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE SIDE OF THE CITY AND THE STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, THERE AS WELL.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTED IS THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE, IT MENTIONS THAT THERE MONTHLY MEETINGS, WELL OBVIOUSLY WE THINK WE IT QUARTERLY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S POSTED ON THE COURSE AND COMMISSIONS WEBSITE.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER UPDATED DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEONE JUST DECIDED WE'RE NOT DOING IT THAT WAY.
I THINK THERE PROBABLY WAS SOMETHING AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S RECORDED AS A WHOLE OTHER STORY, BUT, UM, I THINK DOING THAT TOGETHER WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
AND AT THAT POINT, MY HOPE WOULD BE PERHAPS WE HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED.
AND SO THAT IS LIKE OUR, OUR FIRST BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING TOGETHER WITH OUR NEW BOARD.
ANYTIME YOU ADD EVEN ONE PERSON, IT'S A NEW SOURCE.
AND SO THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER.
UM, AND ALSO ASK OURSELVES LIKE CURRENTLY WITH LIKE WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING, IS IT IN LINE WITH THE MISSION AND VISION OF THE, THIS CURRENT CITY COUNCIL, THE CURRENT CITY CHARTER, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF LEADERSHIP CHANGES.
AND SO THAT THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST SEE THIS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND AGAIN, I DON'T, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, IF THIS IS THE ONLY DOCUMENT AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWING IT, I, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, AND THIS HAS NOT BEEN MALICIOUS OR INTENTIONAL.
UM, WE COULDN'T LOCATE IT UNTIL NOT THAT LONG AGO.
'CAUSE WE WERE THINKING THAT PERHAPS THERE WAS STILL MORE TO BE FOUND AND THEN TURNS OUT AT THIS POINT THERE ISN'T ANY.
SO, UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD THING FOR US TO KNOCK OUT TOGETHER AND THAT CAN BE KIND OF LIKE A, A TEAM BUILDING THING THAT WE DO.
SO IF ANYBODY HAPPENS TO FIND A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE THAT'S NEWER, IF YOU COULD, UH, NOTE I'LL HAVE, LOOK IT UP.
I'VE ALREADY FOUND A COUPLE AMENDED SOME OF THE THINGS CALLED OUT HERE.
UM, SO THEY HAD ONE FROM JANUARY OF 2015.
THERE WAS ONE IN APRIL OF 2018.
UH, AND IT'S BEEN, THAT'S IS THE CITY OF HU E ECO 360.
GENERALLY, IF YOU JUST LOOK UP PATO, UH, CITY OF, UH, CITY CODE ORDINANCES, IT'LL TAKE YOU THERE AND YOU CAN SEARCH BY, UH, SEARCH TERM.
AND IF YOU JUST TYPE IN LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, IT'LL BRING YOU TO ALL THE STUFF THAT'S IN THERE.
WHICH FUNNILY ENOUGH, THE CHAPTER, CHAPTER ONE, ARTICLE 1 0 3 IS NOT WHERE ANY OF THAT STUFF'S LOCATED ON THE E CODE ON THAT DIGITAL SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT, WHAT'S WRONG YEAH.
BUT IT IS ALL JUST SORT OF GOBBLY GOOD AROUND, UM, AND YEAH, THIS, THIS DOESN'T WHAT WHAT IT HAS LISTED HERE OR ACTUALLY PERTAINING TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD DOES NOT MENTION ANY OF THE, LIKE THE SHALL ELECTED CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIR, SECRETARY, LIKE THIS WAS ALL THESE LIKE BYLAWS THAT WERE FOLLOWED BY THE, ONE OF THE OLDER BOARDS AND NEVER ACTUALLY LIKE CODIFIED MAYBE.
THIS IS MORE LIKE A WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THIS AND IT'S LIKE THIS.
YOU'RE NOT SITTING THERE ANYWHERE.
SO WHAT DID I SAY? WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THIS TOGETHER.
YEAH, SORRY, I DO THIS, I'M ON THE ETHICS REVIEW MISSION UHHUH.
WE DO THIS STUFF EVERY MONTH, SO OH, THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.
I'VE GOTTEN USED TO LOOKING FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF.
I KNOW, I THINK I HAD HEARD MAYBE IT WAS HERE DOES SAY THE SEVEN MEMBERS.
I THINK, OKAY, WELL I'M GLAD DIDN'T EXIST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FINDING THAT.
BUT MAYBE, UM, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO STILL KIND OF GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T READ IT JUST YET, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A FEW THINGS THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED.
AND, OR MAYBE WE JUST LIKE THE WAY IT IS AND WELL, I WONDER TOO IF THERE IS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS MY TRAINING WITH DO THEY HAVE SOME BOILERPLATE BYLAWS TO START WITH THAT WE COULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND DO IT REALLY, REALLY WELL AND GET IT UP TO MODERN STANDARDS SO IT IS VERY CLEAR WHAT WE DO VERSUS LIKE B AND Z OR WHAT, LIKE A DECISION MAKING BOARD.
UM, SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD LIKE DOTY IN ON? I THINK SO, YES.
BECAUSE THEY'LL WANNA HAVE ON IT BEFORE WE YEAH.
BEFORE WE EVEN TAKE IT TO, UM, TO COUNCIL.
SO WHILE WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON ANYTHING, I DID WANT TO GET A GENERAL SENSE OF IF THERE WAS AN APPETITE TO, TO DO THIS WORK TOGETHER.
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EITHER DO IT JUST FOR FUN, KYLE.WELL 'CAUSE LIKE ON HERE, I'M, I'M JUST READING IT FOR NOW.
FROM FIRST TIME IT MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SHOWING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE CURRENT YEAR THAT SOMETHING MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER.
UM, JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, UM, IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE NEWER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
UM, AND SO, UH, I'M GONNA BE DOING A WORK SESSION.
BUT LIKE, UM, I'LL INVITE YOU ALL TO ATTEND THAT WORK SESSION.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU, IT'S, IT'S AN OPTIONAL KIND OF THING, BUT THEY MAY WANNA HEAR YOUR PERSPECTIVES TOO.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST MORE OF AN INFORMED INFORMATIONAL SESSION AND LESS OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE SUPER STRUCTURED AND REALLY A Q AND A.
LIKE WHAT DO YOU EACH KNOW? 'CAUSE WHAT I'VE FOUND, UM, IN THE LAST YEAR WORKING HERE IS THAT THE LIBRARY IS THIS
BUT, UM, INSTEAD OF MISINFORMATION GETTING OUT THERE, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE JUST TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE AND DATA AND PERSPECTIVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I DO LIKE THAT, THAT I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD KEEP INTO.
UM, UH, THERE'S THE QUORUM CHANGE TOO.
I WONDER NOW IF WE EVEN NEED THAT.
LIKE, BECAUSE REALLY IT'S NORMALLY HALF OF YOUR BOARD PLUS ONE IS A QUORUM, BUT BECAUSE THERE WERE, THEY WERE UNABLE TO MAKE QUORUM FOR SEVERAL, I THINK SEVERAL MEETINGS IN A ROW AND THEY ONLY MET QUARTERLY CITY COUNCIL.
IT SO THAT YOU ONLY NEEDED THREE PEOPLE FOR A QUORUM.
I FEEL LIKE NOW OUR BOARD IS ACTIVE ENOUGH, COULD PROBABLY CHANGE THAT BACK.
SO I, I WANNA ACTUALLY, LIKE, MY FIRST THING IS I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH DEFINITIONS BECAUSE THE DEFINITIONS HERE ARE VERY, VERY SPARSE.
WE HAVE TERMS LIKE CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON, SECRETARY, IT'S THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE FILLED UP.
WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THOSE ARE.
BOARD AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES LIKE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE EXTENDED TO EXPLAIN ALL THAT STUFF AND EVERYTHING TOO.
BUT THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA COME FROM YOU.
IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES,
UM, SO PARTICIPATING MIGHT LOOK LIKE JUST SUPPORTING, LIKE COMING OUT, BUT UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THIS BOARD IS FOCUSED ON DOING WELL AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PROBABLY EVEN SINCE THAT WAS DONE, THERE IS CURRENTLY A FUNDRAISING ORDINANCE AND THERE'S AN ORDINANCE ABOUT, UM, SPONSORSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND NOT THAT WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT HPL FRIENDS COULD DO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT OUR ROLE IS.
AND I THINK, UM, INADVERTENTLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO REALLY NICE THINGS NOT KNOWING, YOU KNOW, AND SO BEING VERY CAREFUL AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE A, UM, AN OVERVIEW AND A FUTURE MEETING ON THE SPONSORSHIP AND FUNDRAISING TER JUST SO WE'RE HOPEFUL ON THAT.
AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW INSTALLED BOARD AND SO IT'S A GOOD TIME TO GET REFRESH ON THAT.
AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT THE GRANT FUNDING AND THEN KIND OF THIRD PARTY DONATIONS THAT OF COURSE, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE OF A, UM, POLICY ON THAT KIND OF STUFF NOW.
BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION BEFORE ABOUT GRANT
UM, SO WE HAVE WRITTEN, UM, I'VE WRITTEN FOUR GRANTS AND WE'VE GOTTEN ALL FOUR.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND MS. HANNAH HAS WRITTEN TWO GRANTS AND SHE'S GOTTEN BOTH OF HER GRANTS AS WELL.
UM, THESE ARE, MOST OF THEM ARE VERY, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST MATCHING GRANTS FOR OUR PERFORMANCES OVER THE SUMMER.
UM, AND SO, AND WE, WE'VE ONLY GONE WITH LOCAL PEOPLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES OR OH, NICE DAYS OR FOOD OR ANYTHING.
UM, BUT, SO THESE ARE LIKE 200 TO $300 TYPE MATCHING GRANTS.
AND THEN THE $2,000 GRANT WAS THROUGH, UH, THE HEB, YOU KNOW HOW TIMES WHEN YOU CHECK OUT, THEY ASK IF YOU WANNA DONATE SOME MONEY TO WHATEVER ORGANIZATION THEY'RE SPONSORING.
AND FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, THEY WERE SPONSORING, UM, UH, TEXAS LIBRARIES.
AND SO IT WAS A SUMMER GRANT FOR THEM.
SO WHILE I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, BE AWARE THAT WE CAN'T WRITE GRANTS FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF, UM, TIME TO DO THOSE.
UM, MAYBE WE, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S ONE THAT YOU MIGHT HEAR ABOUT THAT WE CAN TALK TOGETHER AS A, AS A BOARD AS WELL.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MORE THIN OR, I DUNNO.
OR IT COULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WE LET HBL FRIENDS KNOW IF THEY HAVE SOMEBODY ON THEIR BOARD THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ADUC AT GRANT WRITING, IT COULD BE A WAY TO PARTNER WITH THEM AS WELL.
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QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WONDERINGS ABOUT, UM, THE ORDINANCE STUFF? I FEEL BETTER BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT SAY WE CAN HAVE QUARTER, THIS IS ONE YOU HAVE ANY THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT NOW.I'M GUESSING WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THERE'S A
I'M GUESSING AT SOME POINT IT WAS CHOPPED UP AND LED INTO THE CURRENT FORM.
UM, BECAUSE LIKE CALLING OUT THE MEANS CLAUSE HERE SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH OF THIS.
LIKE THIS WAS LIKE A LOT OF FLUFF THAT NO WONDER IT GOT TRIMED DOWN TO WHAT IT IS NOW.
UM, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS AND THE BOARD DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IS PROBABLY THE, ALL THIS ACTUALLY DEFINES MM-HMM
BECAUSE I THINK THE REST OF IT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY DEFINING CODE FOR LIKE COMPOSITION AND EMPLOYMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF, SO MM-HMM
REALLY ALL WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS THE DEFINITION SECTION BOARDS AND DUTIES AND RESPONS RELIEF.
AND THAT WAS SORT OF BE OUR FOCUS ON BYLAWS.
WE DON'T SORT OF BEAT AROUND THE BUSH AND DO A BUNCH OF WORK THAT GET, GET SEVERED IN 10 YEARS TIME.
WELL I WILL TELL YOU, I, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH BETTER I FEEL ABOUT LOT.
WELL ALSO
LAURA, MAYBE SHE HAD TO SEE THE SEARCH FEATURE.
SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND YOU ANYTHING.
WHY ISN'T ANYTHING IN HERE? ALRIGHT, WELL THE, THE LAST, ALMOST LAST ITEM FROM AGENDA, UM, IS TO TALK ABOUT LIST OF TOPICS TO DISCUSS WITH THE DID COMMISSION, UM, AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING.
SO FIRST IF YOU COULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SEPTEMBER 16TH DATE ON YOUR CALENDAR.
I KNOW THAT WE HAD IT SCHEDULED FOR, UM, LAST MONTH AND IT NEEDED TO GET RESCHEDULED.
SO THANKS FOR BEING FLEXIBLE ON THAT.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT AT THE, THE JOINT AWARDS AND COMMISSIONS WORKDAY.
THERE WAS A DESIRE TO GET TOGETHER TO AGAIN, SEE HOW WE CAN BEST SUPPORT EACH OTHER'S EFFORTS, UM, ALIGN RESOURCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THAT CERTAINLY WAS REKINDLED WHEN WE HAD OUR, OUR, UM, DINNER FOR THE PERFECT ATTENDANCE.
UM, SO I THINK KRISTEN HAD ASKED PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS.
YOU'RE NOT LIKE, THESE ARE NOT HARD AND FASHION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE MARRIED TO THIS IDEA.
BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE BEST UTILIZE THEIR TIME WITH THAT BOARD.
I DID GO TO THEIR APRIL MEETING, I THINK IT WAS, UM, AND JUST PULL 'EM IN PERSON OR HOW WE, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MEET WITH THEM, BUT THEN ALSO ASKING THEM, UH, FOR HELP WITH AWARENESS OF LIBRARY EVENTS.
'CAUSE WE DO A LOT OF CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS IN OUR LIBRARY TOO.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL DO THE PROCLAMATION OF BE OF THE MONTH AND I WANNA SCREAM, WE HAVE THIS GOING ON IN THE LIBRARY TOO.
SO JUST BRINGING AWARENESS TO THAT.
THEY WERE INCREDIBLY OPEN TO, UM, ANYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO THEM AND, AND TO DISCUSS.
WHAT IS THE TIME? SEPTEMBER 16TH? IT WOULD BE AT SIX O'CLOCK.
THEY GO UPSTAIRS WHERE USED TO DO IT.
WHERE WE GOT KICKED OUT THE EXECUTIVE MEETING ROOM.
I'M ACTUALLY THE TYPE OF PERSON, I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THAT WORK IN THE SPACE THAT YOU'RE SERVING IN.
SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AT RENTAL.
I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, UH, THE PREPARATION WAS, UH, I KNOW WE FOCUS KIND OF FROM THE LENS OF THE LIBRARY, BUT FROM THEIR LENS THAT THERE ARE ANY UNINTENDED BOUNDARIES OR BARRIERS THAT THEY SEE, UM, OR NEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS COMING IN.
LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.
UM, AS WELL AS, UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW, 40, 50 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SPOKEN AND HOW TO, UH, THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES THAT WE CAN OFFER.
I KNOW THAT, UM, I'VE TALKED TO CORINA ZEPEDA BEFORE AND SHE HAD, 'CAUSE SHE'S ON THE DEIB COMMISSION AND SHE HAD TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GETTING READY TO RAMP UP AND LAUNCH WHAT THEY'RE CALLING WORK GROUPS.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS OR SIMILAR LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, AS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET, NOT ONLY TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, BUT THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WHAT ARE THOSE BARRIERS TO ENTRY AND, AND A VARIETY OF THINGS.
AND SO WONDERING I HAD WAS, UM, HOW COULD WE EITHER THROUGH SPACE OR THROUGH OUR PATRONS OR PEOPLE THAT
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WE KNOW, HOW COULD WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THOSE WORK GROUPS RESOURCES.I KNOW, SORRY, I GOTTA SHIFT GEARS.
I GOTTA GO FROM ORDINANCES INTO MORE CREATIVE STUFF.
I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN THERE IS A, UM, PROCLAMATION, UH, THAT STILL CAN KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND WITH KIND OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE LIBRARY, BUT I WONDER IF THERE IS, I WONDER, I I I KNOW FOR A CERTAIN POPULATION OF THE COMMUNITY, SOMETIMES BEING QUIET CAN BE DIFFICULT.
RIGHT? UM, KIND OF TO HAVE THOSE INCLUSION DAYS, INCLUSION NIGHTS FOR SOME OF OUR, UH, MAYBE SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS WHO THEY WANT TO BE IN THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T FEEL REALLY WELCOME.
UM, SO HEY, WE HAVE A LOUD BOOK NIGHT OR READ LOUD OR SOMETHING.
AND MAYBE WHAT THEY SEE ON THEIR END.
SO BEING MORE OPEN TO THAT MM-HMM
SO SEEING THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY MM-HMM
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE PLACES THAT YOU GO IN IN PUBLIC, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE SENSORY SENSITIVE THAN OTHERS.
AND I THINK IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CHALLENGE, YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT, LIKE EVEN THIS ROOM, IT HAS KIND OF AN ECHO FOR SOME PEOPLE THIS WOULD BE A, AN ADVERSE SPACE BECAUSE OF THE SOUND REVERBERATION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, AN INTERESTING IDEA.
HOW CAN WE ALSO MEET THAT NEED? WE MEET IT THROUGH, I MEAN I JUST LIKE RECORD, BUT THAT'S IT.
THEY DO A, UM, AN INCLUSIVE DANCE.
UM, WE DO SUCH A FRIENDLY STORY TIME, BUT THERE'S, I MEAN, PROBABLY AWESOME.
LIKE ALL THREE OF US WILL WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THAT.
EVEN WITHIN THAT SPACE, THERE'S SUCH A, UM, I HATE TO USE THE WORD, THE SPECTRUM 'CAUSE IT SEEMS KIND OF CLICHE, BUT THERE'S SUCH A WIDE VARIETY OF, OF SENSORY SENSITIVITY.
SO BEING KIND OF MORE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WHAT ARE THOSE NEEDS MM-HMM
SO THAT WE DON'T OVER INDEX ON SOMETHING THAT'S MORE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE
UM, I THOUGHT THIS TOO MIGHT JUST BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, I THINK YOU KIND OF ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT TO SAY, I CAN WE HELP SUPPORT YOUR INITIATIVES? UM, MAYBE NOT JUST THROUGH I PROGRAMS, BUT AS PEOPLE LIKE MM-HMM
UH, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO, UM, TO SPREAD THE WORD OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
JUST BRING AWARENESS OF THE, THE WAYS THAT WE CAN, UH, HELP FILL SOME OF THEIR NEEDS.
AND I THINK I, MAYBE I MADE THIS UP, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S AN INITIATIVE CURRENTLY TO KIND OF CALENDAR OUT ALL OF LIKE THE ANNUAL PROCLAMATIONS.
AND SO PERHAPS WITH THAT IN PLACE WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF, UM, AND NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT DOING IT, BUT MAYBE WE COULD MAKE THAT AS PART OF OUR, OUR PROGRAMMING OR, YOU KNOW, DISPLAYS PUT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MONTH THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED.
AND SO THAT BECOMES PART OF THE ROTATION OF HOW DO WE PRESENT THOSE THINGS EITHER IN BOOK FORM OR PROGRAM FORMAT.
EVEN A PREVIEW FOR NEXT MONTH.
AND IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT? THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
JUST BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY
SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, IF THEY HAD ANYTHING IN MIND FOR US? UM, WE MET WITH THEM.
I THINK THEY WERE REALLY JUST, UM, IT WAS LIKE THE INITIAL JUST BRINGING AWARENESS BECAUSE MOST OF THEM WERE LIKE, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT IF SOME OF THEM HAVE BACKGROUNDS IN MARKETING OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY GIMME SOME TIPS FOR SPREADING THE WORD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY, UM, COMMITTED TO WAS TO WHEN THEY SEE OUR EVENTS ONLINE, SHARE THEM
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OUT, UH, TO, TO KEEP UP WITH THE CALENDARS SO THAT WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, MEET SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY OR SOMEBODY THEY ALREADY KNOW SAY, OH YOU LOVE GARDENING, RIGHT? WELL THE LIBRARY DOES THIS FOR ANYTHING.YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, SO THAT FIRST MEETING WAS LESS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN PARTNER AND MORE JUST ABOUT WHAT DOES THE LIBRARY EVEN HAVE TO OFFER.
SO I THINK, UM, I BET THEY WILL COME WITH, WITH, UM, SOME IDEAS AS WELL.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET TO SEE THOSE BEFOREHAND.
I THINK THAT, UM, I, I KNOW THAT IT IS CHALLENGING, BUT I, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE WALKING AWAY FROM THOSE JOINT BOYS AND BOARDS AND COMMISSION DAYS, SO EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER BOARDS.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GENERALLY THE SENSE, PERHAPS THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN MODEL LIKE A CLOSER ALIGNMENT WITH THAT PARTICULAR BOARD AND SHOW THAT LIKE WITH TIME AND SPACE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REALLY COMBINE EFFORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND PERHAPS WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR HAVING THIS FORCE AND COMMISSION DAY, UM, LIKE TWICE A YEAR WHERE THIS IS WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S ALREADY PREDETERMINED FOR US TO CHECK IN ON HOW THAT'S GOING.
BECAUSE HONESTLY, GETTING EVERYBODY ON SCHEDULES, 'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE POSTED AND SET.
IT IS LIKE, I KNOW THAT IT'S A BIG ORDEAL, BUT IF PERHAPS WE CAN USE THIS TO KIND OF PLANT THAT SEED AND SEE IF THAT, THAT WOULD BE MORE, I THINK THAT WOULD BENEFICIAL.
I GUESS, I MEAN, WE WEREN'T, EVEN THOUGH WE GET TO TALK TO OTHER BOARDS WHILE WE WERE THERE, IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY TO COLLABORATE, BUT IF WE HAVE ONE SESSION THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER CHILD BOARDS, EVERYONE WOULD BENEFIT.
BUT I KNOW THE, UM, I KNOW THIS IS NOT GGIV, BUT LIKE THE, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, THEY WANTED TO HAVE US PUBLISH THEIR BOOK AND IT'S, WE HAVE IT INDIVIDUALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN PRINT BECAUSE THEY KEEP, UM, UPDATING IT.
SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO UH, WELL THEY HAVE IT IN PRINT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
BUT, UH, WE JUST UPDATE AS THEY SEND US NEW, UM, NEW THINGS.
WE UPDATE IT ONLINE, SO WE HAVE TO APPLY THIS COPY.
HONESTLY, I THINK THE TOPIC IS HOW DO WE HELP EACH OTHER? YEAH.
AND THEN IT JUST TURNS INTO A PIT BALL SESSION.
I FEEL LIKE I'M TRYING TO SOLVE HALF AN EQUATION RIGHT NOW.
I'LL, I'LL, UM, ALSO IN THAT SAME EMAIL WITH LIKE ALL THE THINGS EMAIL, UM, I'LL HAVE THE, THE IDEAS THAT WE WROTE DOWN.
UM, JUST SO POPS INTO YOUR HEAD, ME NOW, AND THEN YOU WANNA ADD IT, LET ME KNOW AND THEN I'LL SEND IT OFF TO, UM, CHRISTIE BARNES WHO IS, UM, UH, WHO, WHO THE STAFF MEMBER THAT, THAT GETS TOGETHER WITH THE, UM, THE
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? I DO NOT THINK SO.
ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS? THE BYLAWS STUFF WILL BE BE THE FUTURE AGENDA.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING SEPARATELY.
UM, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE.
JUST LIKE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SAID, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TIME FOR IT.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY WE DO THAT AS A SEPARATE MEETING.
UM, AND WE CAN DO CALENDAR CHECKS AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, YEAH, SO THEN IF THERE ARE NO OTHER AGENDA REQUESTS, THEN I WOULD SAY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE, SEPTEMBER 16TH.
THEN OCTOBER 16TH FOR THE WORK SESSION, THE WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN NOVEMBER 3RD IS OUR NEXT MEETING, AND WE WILL LIKELY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SOMETIME POTENTIALLY IN OCTOBER TO DO THE BYLAWS WORK.
BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT, IT IS THE HOUR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT SEPTEMBER 4TH.
IS CITY COUNCIL, UH, LIBRARY CARD ON.
AND THEN THIS, THIS THURSDAY, AUGUST 7TH IS THE, THE BUDGET, UM, PRESENTATION.
THERE MAY BE SOME, I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO GO, UM, IN SUPPORT OR TO BE THERE AS A RESOURCE, I'M SURE KRISTEN WOULD NOT HATE THAT.
IT IS 7 39 AND WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
TIME TO BE HERE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD.
WE DIDN'T PUT ANY OF THE FUN HEARINGS THOUGH.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE DUMB QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID FOR THE, UM, THE TRAINING THAT WE DID, ARE WE DONE RECORDING? YES, MA'AM.
UM, ONE OF THE TRAININGS THAT THEY DID
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WAS, UM, NOT TRAININGS.THEY OPENED IT, AT FIRST WE WERE A LITTLE CONFUSED.
WE WERE LIKE, ARE WE AT THE RIGHT TRAINING? BUT THEY DID, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TRADITIONAL EVERYTHING, LIKE READING RAINBOW, WHERE THEY JUST TOPPED IT UP SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND GAVE LIKE A LITTLE SYNOPSIS, UM, UNTIL THEY READ THEM.
IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THEM READING OFF THE BACK OF THE BOOK.
UM, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL.
SO MAYBE NEXT TIME WHEN WE MEET WE CAN, UH.