OH, YEAH. CALL SESSION ORDER 602.
[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
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ROLL CALL. COUNCILOR THOMPSON.COUNCILOR GORDON ESSER PORTERFIELD.
[3.1. Discussion and possible action about a potential Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) along Texas State Highway (SH) 130 corridor through parts of Hutto City limits. (Mayor Snyder)]
HERE. OUR FIRST ITEM IS THREE ONE.DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ABOUT A POTENTIAL TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE ALONG TEXAS STATE. SH 130 CORRIDOR.
OKAY. SO HE'S TALKING TO MALINOWSKI ABOUT 130.
AND I THINK THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL US.
OR I CAN SAY WHAT I THINK I KNOW ABOUT HER.
SHE CAN TELL ME WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG. HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? OKAY, SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TURF YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS IT'S A BOUNDARY THAT WE WE MAKE THE BOUNDARY LINES TODAY AND THEY ASSESS THE PROPERTY AT TODAY'S UNDEVELOPED VALUE.
AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO USE WHATEVER WE DETERMINE, THE PORTION OF THE INCREASED VALUE AND THE TAXES THAT COME FROM THAT TO HELP FUND THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT ARE FOR BONDS THAT ARE SOLD FOR IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN THAT BOUNDARY. IS THAT THE.
YEAH, IF BONDS ARE SOLD, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
OTHERWISE YOU CAN DO REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH A DEVELOPER WITHIN THE CURVES THAT'S BEEN BUILT AND REIMBURSE THEM ACCORDING TO REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AS LONG AS IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE FIRST.
RIGHT. SO WHERE THIS CAME FROM WAS WITH 130 CORRIDOR BLOWING UP, WE'RE WANTING IN THIS NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE CIP TO START THE DESIGN OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY.
EPITOME JUST GOT A QUOTE BACK ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT'S LIKE $1,000, A LINEAR FOOT TO BUILD A FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND SO THEY'RE BUILDING WHATEVER IT IS, 1500 FEET.
WE HAVE 2 OR 3000 ON EACH SIDE, PLUS DESIGN THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79.
YOU HAVE BRIDGES OVER BRUSHY CREEK.
SO WHAT I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IS ESTABLISHING A TOURIST BOUNDARY THAT INCLUDED THE PARKS, THE UNDEVELOPED PARTS OF STAR RANCH.
TALK TO THEM. THEY'RE OKAY DOING IT.
THERE'S A FUNCTION THAT CAN BE DONE THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR BONDS, AND IT MAY BE AFTER. BUT YOU SET THE YOU'RE SETTING THE VALUE TODAY SO THAT IF IT DEVELOPS IN 5 OR 6 YEARS BUT ANYWAY WHEN THE BOTTOM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TEX-MEX IT DIDN'T WORK ALL THE WAY NORTH THROUGH THE AVERY FARM.
ON THE EAST SIDE OF 130 FOR ANYTHING THAT DEVELOPS IN THE THAT THE READ DIDN'T, DIDN'T PRINT FOR US. IT'S ON THIS RIGHT HERE.
OH, REALLY? THE EAST SIDE OF YEAH, THE THE EAST SIDE OF 130 WHERE ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING LIKE IN TERMS OF TOYOTA ALL THE WAY EAST TO THE TSTC TEMPLE COLLEGE LAND, THEN WEST ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
SEE, THAT INCLUDES THE AVERY, BUT NOT THE ISD, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE NON TAX.
AND THEN IT GOES UP. IT HAS TO BE CHANGED ON THE TOP RIGHT.
THAT'S NOW TSTC LAND WHERE IT SAYS PARIS SOMETHING.
YEAH. RIGHT HERE. YEAH THAT'S TCC.
BUT THE CORRIDOR UP THERE AND THEN THE NORTH SIDE WOULD BE THE PEARLAND ESTATES WOULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL AS EPITOME AND EVERYTHING ELSE DEVELOPS.
AND SO I THINK IT WAS IF WE SET IT NOW BEFORE ALL THIS STUFF KICKS OFF.
IN TERMS OF THAT, MONEY WILL GO WHENEVER WE DECIDE IF IT'S 50% OR WHATEVER.
THAT MONEY WON'T GO INTO TAX CALCULATIONS, BUT THAT MONEY WILL BE SITTING THERE SO THAT WE CAN START THE DESIGN OF THE ROADS TODAY, REIMBURSE OURSELVES THAT.
AND THEN ALSO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUILD THOSE FRONTAGE ROADS ON THE NORTH SIDE, THAT'S EASY. THEN WE CAN START THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND STUFF ON THE SOUTH.
AND THEN I MET WITH THE JUDGE TODAY.
I MET WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER, AND WITH THE JUDGE TODAY, THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO THROW MONEY IN AND BORROW MONEY FOR US, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE ONES PUSHING A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALONG HERE.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE THEM TO DO IS AT LEAST GIVE A PORTION OF THEIR TAXES, WHETHER IT BE 50 OR 75% THAT'S GOING TO COME IN ON THAT TO THE TOURIST DISTRICT, SO WE CAN BUILD OUT THE FRONTAGE ROADS.
AND WHAT IT SAID, NO, WAS THE COUNTY ENGINEER, BUT HE DIDN'T VOTE. YOU CAN INCLUDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF YOU WANT TO,
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EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T PAY VISITORS.JUST IF YOU WANT THEM IN BOUNDARIES, YOU CAN DO THAT.
YEAH. ALL I DID IS I JUST I DIDN'T WANT TO COMPLICATE A DEAL WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAD NO REALLY NO PAYMENT. BUT IF THERE'S A BENEFIT TO IT, I DON'T REALLY CARE AS LONG AS WE.
FOR ME, AS LONG AS WE GET THE BOUNDARY SET TODAY WE'RE PROBABLY.
I THINK EPITOME WANTS TO BREAK GROUND STARTING NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN TOYOTA IS READY TO BREAK GROUND, BUT IF ALL THESE GUYS START BREAKING GROUND IT'S GOING TO RUIN OUR ABILITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO APPRAISE IT FIRST, LIKE PRIOR APPROVAL. SO DOES THAT GO NORTH TO THE END OF OUR ETJ? WHERE DOES IT END? AND I RUN TO THE NORTH, TO OUR EDGE OF THE EDGE.
OKAY. YEAH. WHEN YOU GO FURTHER EAST, WE GO NORTH OF CHANDLER, UP PAST THE DUMP. BUT RIGHT HERE.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST TO GET THE 130 CORRIDOR AND THAT'S IN ETJ.
THE ENTIRE THING, BASICALLY. YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH. BUT ON THE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79, IT'S ON THE WEST.
YEAH. BECAUSE THE EAST IS ALREADY OKAY NOW.
AND WITH THE, WITH THE, THE MUD.
WHEN I TALKED TO THOSE GUYS WHAT THEY SAID WAS, IS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISM EXACTLY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFECT THEIR MUD BONDS. BUT PFLUGERVILLE HAS DONE SOMETHING WHERE THEY DID A TOURIST AND INCLUDED ONE OF THEIR MUDS IN IT. AND BUT I THINK WE'RE TAKING OVER STAR RANCH OR WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT OVER IN LIKE EIGHT YEARS OR SOMETHING. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT, JAMES? YEAH. SO THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT AREA DEVELOP IN EIGHT YEARS MAY NOT BE THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH GOING AHEAD AND ASSESS GETTING THE APPRAISED VALUE TODAY LOW AS CORN, THEN IN EIGHT YEARS IF IT BUILDS UP INTO APARTMENTS THEN WE STILL REALIZE ALL THAT.
GABE. A COUPLE OF GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR ALL TOURS.
TEN YEARS. ARE THEY GOING TO BE BIG CHANGES, THE LENGTH OF TIME? CORRECT. AND WHEN DOES THAT SET? AT THE TIME YOU SET THE BOUNDARIES.
IT DOESN'T GO BEYOND 40 YEARS BECAUSE IN TEXAS YOU CAN ONLY BOND FOR 40 YEARS.
OKAY. SO YOU DON'T. BUT MOST NURSES I BELIEVE 20 OR 30 YEARS DOES THAT.
DOES THAT ALWAYS AMENDED TO EXTEND THE TIME TO.
OKAY, GOOD. SO DOES THAT TIME WINDOW ARE THAT IS THAT SET WHEN WE SET THE BOUNDARIES OR CAN THAT BE SET AT A LATER DATE. DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY AS WELL.
THE TERMS OF THE TOURS WHAT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS JUST PROVIDE SOME SORT OF DIRECTION SO THAT STAFF CAN FIGURE OUT THE BOUNDARIES.
THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS AN APPROVAL. NO ACTION. THANK YOU.
YEAH. IT IS POSSIBLE. ACTION. SO IF WE GET A FIFTH PERSON IN HERE, WE COULD RIGHT NOW, IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, WE COULD SAY INITIALLY WE WANT TO BUILD FRONTAGE ROADS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN LET'S SAY EVERYTHING BLOWS UP. THE DEBT SERVICE IS EASILY COVERED BY THE INCREASED TAX VALUE THAT WE'RE GETTING, OUR TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GETTING EITHER THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS OR SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE ABLE TO FUND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE BOUNDARY THAT BENEFIT THE DISTRICT.
RIGHT? CORRECT. AS LONG AS YOU PUT THAT IN THE FINANCING PLAN THAT THE TOURIST PROJECTS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST GET LIKE SIDEWALKS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH. SO YOU GUYS ARE I LIKE TO KEEP IT REALLY WIDE OPEN ONLY SO THAT WHEN ALL THIS IS GROWING, WE CAN COME BACK IN. WE GOT A HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING TO THE WEST. WE CAN THEN MAYBE THAT'S A REASON TO PUT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THERE. IS THAT WE CAN. YEAH.
WORK IN AGREEMENT OUT WITH THEM, AND THEY'LL SIDEWALKS ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE INTERCHANGE OF LINEAR IF IT EVER NEEDS TO BE REDONE IN NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS.
MY THOUGHT IS, IS IT'S SO UNDEVELOPED NOW THAT.
AND THEN WE CAN PUT AN ASTERISK. JAMES, MAYBE BY EVERY PROJECT THAT'S OVER THERE THAT THIS IS I MEAN, EVEN IF I UNDERSTAND IT.
IF WE SET THIS BOUNDARY BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF A WASTEWATER LINE FOR THE DISTRICT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, PAID THE CITY BACK FOR THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT WAS INSTALLED AFTER THE DISTRICT WAS FORMED.
SINCE WE'VE ONLY DESIGNED IT SO FAR, YOU CAN PUT IT IN AS A PROJECT.
AND WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD PAY REIMBURSEMENT FOR COSTS OR EXPENSES.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I MIGHT NOT EVEN CARE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER PAID THE DESIGN. RIGHT, JAMES? BUT IF WE IF WE SET THIS UP BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN JANUARY.
WE COULD REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE WASTEWATER LINE.
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RIGHT? RIGHT. IT IS PROVIDED AS A PROJECT, AND IT COVERS.AND IT BENEFITS THE EITHER BENEFIT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OR YOU CAN BENEFIT AS LONG AS YOU CAN SHOW SOME SORT OF BENEFIT.
OH THAT'S RIGHT. IF THIS IS KICKING OFF A LOT OF MONEY, YOU COULD SOMEHOW SAY SINCE THIS WASTEWATER FLOWS TO THE THE NEW PLANT BEING DONE, THEY CAN PAY A PRO RATA SHARE OF THAT AS WELL.
EXPANSION. YEAH. SO ONE AREA OF DISCUSSION IS THE PART HERE THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE BOUNDARIES. THAT'S IN BLUE.
THAT'S ONLY IN THE ETJ AND DOES NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN LIEU OF ANNEXATION IN PLACE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO FORCE THEM TO ANNEX AND THEREFORE A I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE CREATE A TOURIST IN OUR EJ? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANYTHING ANYWAY. YEAH, YEAH.
THE SITE IS LARGELY IN THE ETJ, AND I THINK AS LONG AS YOU HAVE 75% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER YOU COULD YOU COULD HAVE PROPERTY THAT ALSO BECOMES PART OF THE TOURS, ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT WANT IT.
BUT 75% OF PEOPLE IN THE BOUNDARY SAID YES TO THAT.
75% OF THE LAND OR 75 OF THE PEOPLE.
BUT IF THERE'S NO LAND, IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANY PROPERTY TAX, THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO PUT BACK INTO THE TOURS, EVEN IF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE TOURS. NOT YET, BUT IT COULD BE. SO ONLY IF IT ANNEXES.
I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'D HAVE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY EVER BE ABLE TO ANNEX THEM.
BUT IF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES, YOU COULD STILL GET COUNTY. YOU COULD GET THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE, AND YOU WOULD NEED THE COUNTY TO HELP FORM THE TOURS. THAT I SEE YOUR POINT.
THERE'S ALWAYS THAT RISK THAT TOURS AND THAT.
THAT HAS A LOT OF LAND THAT'S IN THE ETJ AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON IT.
THAT GOES FROM SKYBOX ALL THE WAY TO 33.
BUT WE BOUGHT THAT LAND AND WE CONTROLLED IT. WE DIDN'T. WHAT LAND DID WE NOT CONTROL? THAT'S IN THE MEGA SITE.
THE MOST OF IT. THE WHOLE MIDDLE OF IT.
WE OWN WE OWN A COUPLE A FEW HUNDRED ACRES, RIGHT? AT 33, 49. THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH WE DON'T OWN.
AND THEN THERE'S SKYBOX. ALL THAT PURPLE WE DON'T OWN.
YEAH, BUT THIS IS ALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN LIEU OF ANNEXATION.
THIS IS THE ONLY PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY MAY NEVER DEVELOP. BUT IF THEY DO, THEY THEY FORCE THEIR FORCED ANNEXATION AT THAT ONE.
SURE, SURE. I THINK OVER THERE, IF YOU IF YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY, WE'RE GOING TO FORCE THEM TO ANNEX ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE SEWER WATER.
I'M NOT I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT SURE, IF THEY CAN'T MAKE THEM ANNEX.
BUT YES, LIKELINESS LIKELIHOOD IS IT'S PROBABLE.
IT'S PROBABLE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED.
SO I HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE BOUNDARIES.
WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE AT THE AT THE SOUTHERN PART? THAT'S A CARAMEL CREEK IN CARAMEL CREEK.
NO, NO. FURTHER DOWN. FURTHER DOWN.
HOW FAR DOWN ARE WE GOING WITH THIS? I THINK HE'S STOPPING RIGHT HERE. WHERE THE.
NO, NO, IT GOES IT GOES DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.
THAT'S WHERE STURBRIDGE BOULEVARD IS. RIGHT DOWN THERE. OKAY, LET ME GO BACK OVER TO THAT DIMENSION. OKAY. THAT'S MORE.
THAT'S DOWN TO 79. THERE YOU GO.
79 DOWN TO HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE WAY I SAW THAT WAS.
THAT'S THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT DOWN THERE, BECAUSE THERE IS THE LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF 130 BETWEEN WHERE 65 SPLITS OFF DOWN TO CATS LANE.
THAT'S IN THE CITY ALREADY, AND IT'S UNDEVELOPED.
SOMEBODY WANTED TO PUT HOTELS THERE, REMEMBER? WELL, BACK. HAPPY TO THROW IT IN THAT FLOODPLAIN FURTHER SOUTH.
SOUTH OF THERE. SO THE SOUTH OF THAT GREEN? NO, KEEP GOING SOUTH. THAT YELLOW BELOW THE GREEN THAT'S UNDEVELOPED THERE.
THROW ALL THAT IN THERE TOO. I MISSED THAT BECAUSE DISAPPEARS IN THE MUD RIGHT OVER.
YEAH. WHICH IS IN THE THE GREEN.
THIS GREEN OKAY. ALL THAT GREENS IN THE.
YEAH. THAT'S ALL THE GREENS IN THE MUD OKAY.
IT STOPS SOMEWHERE UP THERE AT THE TOP BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GETTING IN WITH THE ISD BOUGHT THAT LAND WITH THE PURPOSE ANNEXATION.
SO PRETTY WELL THAT THE ISD BOUGHT THE LAND THAT IS RIGHT HERE.
YEAH. YEAH, I WOULD SAY ADD THAT.
I WOULD SAY BASICALLY I WOULD SAY ADD EVERYTHING, EVEN THAT ISD LAND. ADD IT ALL UP.
YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE YOU'RE THINKING JUST CAPTURE THAT WHOLE 130 CORRIDOR SO WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON THE, ON THE GROWTH BASICALLY.
WELL AND SETTING THE RATES LOW BEFORE THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE STARTING IT, BEFORE IT GETS. I KNOW THE NEGATIVE PARTS OF THIS ARE THAT IF IT GROWS, IT'S WORTH WHATEVER $1 BILLION THAT THAT'S ON
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THERE. AND WE SAY, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY SAY, JAMES, IF WE SAY WE WANT 100% OF THE MONEY COMING IN TO GO TO THE TOURS, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL BILLION DEVELOPMENT THAT'S VALUED, WE'LL NEVER SEE THE TAX RATE. SO WE'LL ADJUST THAT. BUT THAT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS UNTIL THE TOURS.THE PURPOSE OF THE TOURS IS, IS, IS IS DONE, AT WHICH POINT THEN THAT REVENUE WOULD COME OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND, JUST A MATTER OF HOW MUCH, WHAT PERCENT WE WANT TO SET IT UP.
I MEAN, GENERALLY I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY YOU TYPICALLY LOOK AT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND $500 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS, WELL, THEN YOU USE THAT AND THEN YOU CALCULATE OUT, OKAY, WELL, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US TO, TO, TO FUND THAT IF THIS DEVELOPS A CERTAIN WAY.
THE THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT TOO IS, IS WHAT'S THE DEMAND ON SERVICES FOR THAT AREA? RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF POLICING OR THAT SORT OF STUFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU BRING IN RETAILERS AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WELL THEN YOU MAY WANT TO THEN CONSIDER, OKAY, WHAT IF WE DO 70. WHAT IF WE 100% 7550.
GENERALLY I DON'T SEE THERE BEING MUCH VALUE GOING BELOW 50 UNLESS YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO USE IT TO LIKE UPGRADE THINGS, NOT ACTUALLY BUILD LIKE HARD INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THE FRONTAGE ROADS ARE CERTAINLY NOT NOT ANYTHING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER AS CHEAP.
SO I WOULD START AT 50 AND GO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 100, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TIMELINE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS STUFF BUILT AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST WE PROJECT AND HOW LONG WE WANT THIS TO BE ABLE TO PAY, PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR MUCH LONGER THAN 30 YEARS. YOU CAN ISSUE DEBT AGAINST THE TURFS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN DO THAT TOO.
I WOULD SAY 75% FOR THAT ONE THING TO SERVICE, BUT I KNOW THE BRIDGES OVER BRUSHY CREEK ALSO ABOUT A CAN A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT'S GOING TO BE SO EXPENSIVE THEY'LL NEVER GET AROUND TO IT.
AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT REALLY WOULD BE A HUGE HELP IN MAKING ALLOWING PEOPLE TO TRAVEL FROM NORTH SIDE OF TOWN TO SOUTH SIDE WITHOUT HAVING TO GET THEM ON THE TOLL ROADS.
AND TO ME, THAT BRIDGE, IT'S LIKE I TOLD THE JUDGE TODAY, WE COULD WIDEN CHRIS KELLY AND SAY, SPEND 30 OR $40 MILLION WIDENING IT.
BUT WHY IS CHRIS KELLY SO BUSY? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FRONTAGE ROADS ON 130 AND PEOPLE ARE USING THAT AS A ROUTE NORTH.
AND SO ALMOST IF YOU BUILT THE FRONTAGE ROADS BEFORE YOU WIDEN, CHRIS KELLY, YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY TAKE ENOUGH TRAFFIC OFF OF SOME OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO LIKE I LIVE NORTH OF TOWN, I HAVE TO EXIT CHRIS KELLY TO GO HOME.
IF I LIVE UNLESS I LIVE UP OFF LENOIR TO GET UP IN, LIKE, IF I WANT TO GO TO HOME DEPOT, I HAVE TO ASK CHRIS.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE THAT THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE BRUSHY CREEK IS PROBABLY LIKE THE THE LEAST IMPORTANT PART, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ARE THE ACCESS ROADS THAT ARE NORTH OF 79. YEAH.
BECAUSE FRANKLY, YOU'RE YOU'RE BANG FOR THE BUCK TO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN GET YOU CAN GET OFF GOING NORTH AND THEN AND THEN GO UNDERNEATH THE RAIL AND GET BACK ON TO THE TOLL ROAD. SO YOU CAN GET TO 79.
IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH ON 130, YOU DON'T NEED THE ACCESS ROAD.
BUT IF YOU'RE AT STAR RANCH AND YOU WANT TO GO, YOU WANT TO GO TO 79, YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP CHRIS KELLY.
GENERALLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO GET ON THE TOLL ROAD FOR ONE EXIT TO GET BACK OFF UNLESS YOU'RE IN A SUPER RUSH.
SO YOU YOU'D BE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE.
BUT IS THAT WORTH YOU KNOW, THE COST, YOU KNOW, IS THE IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE SO TO SPEAK, ON THAT.
WHEREAS IF YOU CONNECT THE ACCESS ROADS ON THE NORTH AND YOU GIVE PEOPLE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF AND GET BACK ON BECAUSE IT'S TRUE, GOING NORTH TO LIKE YOU CAN'T GET ON AT LAMAR, I DON'T THINK I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO CHANDLER, LET ME ASK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
YOU CAN EXIT. YOU CAN EXIT SOUTHBOUND TO LIMA, BUT YOU CAN'T EXIT LIMA NORTHBOUND.
RIGHT. THAT'S THAT. YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
TO ME, THE FRONT, THE THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON THE NORTH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. BUT THEN I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU GOTTA GO TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T SEE ISSUES BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THERE. BUT ONCE THAT ALL DEVELOPS WE'VE ALMOST HAD LIKE 600 APARTMENTS. IT'S ALL CHRIS KELLY CAN'T HANDLE EVERYTHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING FLOWS UP TO CARL STERN. BUT TO ME THAT'S A, THAT'S, I MEAN THE ENGINEERING THAT'LL BE IN THE MILLIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THE TOURS IS TO TAKE THE UNDEVELOPED AREA AND PUT A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT.
IN THIS SECTION OF BLUE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE THE THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY. SO THAT ONE DOESN'T MATTER. SO REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD BE IN QUESTION ARE IS IS WEST OF 130 NORTH OF IS THAT LEMMER?
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YEAH, NORTH OF LEMMER.AND THE EAST SIDE. EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE PARCEL LIKE THAT.
YEAH. THAT BLUE AREA RIGHT THERE.
THE EAST SIDE OR THE ANNEXED IN.
OH, YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT IS RIGHT UP HERE. YEAH.
JUST NORTH OF THAT PURPLE RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT THERE. YEP. SO THEY JUST GOT THAT SECTION CUZ THEY WERE WANTING TO BUILD THE REST OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD ON THIS SIDE UP TO CONNECT ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THAT'S WHERE I FIGURE IT'S A PRETTY GOOD QUOTE BECAUSE THAT WAS A YEAH. THAT WAS SOMEBODY JUST BIT OUT.
YEAH. AND THEN I THINK I SAID THEN I WAS THINKING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT DEVELOP, IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO BUILD, IF WE GET IF WE GET IT DESIGNED AND THEY GO TO BUILD IT, IF WE HAVE A WAY TO FUND IT, REIMBURSEMENT FOR IT, WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS THROUGH THE TOURS TO THEN REIMBURSE PEOPLE TO WEAR AGAIN.
WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET DEVELOPMENT EVEN FASTER KNOWING THAT THE TOURISTS WILL BE PAYING THEM BACK.
I DON'T KNOW. IF AARON'S ON HIS WAY BACK.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD RECESS THE WORKSHOP, GO INTO REGULAR SESSION WHEN EVERYBODY'S HEARING YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO VOTE, THEN BRING THIS BACK UP.
MAKE YOUR VOTE. GIVE YOUR DIRECTION DOWNSTAIRS. WE CAN DO THAT.
YEAH. OH, LET'S SAY WE GOT EARLY.
TO SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING THAT THERE. YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE LOCATION WHEN WE COME BACK. OH, BECAUSE YOU'RE MEETING UP HERE.
SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK UP HERE TO. YEAH. ANYWAY.
YEAH. OH, YEAH. WE'RE COMING UP FOR EXECUTIVE.
SO WE COULD RECESS DOWNSTAIRS.
SO RECESS UP HERE. GO DOWN HERE FOR EXECUTIVE, GET OUT OF EXECUTIVE, REOPEN OUR WORKSHOP UP AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA YOU'D HAVE TO PUT ON IT.
WE JUST DO THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN GET THE MEETING BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN. YOU CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN TAKE ACTION. THE PUBLIC RECORD FOR THE ACTION.
I MEAN, Y'ALL WOULD DO IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAD THE FIFTH VOTE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
YEAH. SO ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S A MECHANISM TO DO IT TONIGHT.
YEAH. OR YOU CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS OR YOU CAN WAIT NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN DO IT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT THURSDAY.
PUT IT OVER TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
NEXT. YEAH. IN THE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
WORKSHOP ON THURSDAY, 14TH, 14.
I NEED Y'ALL TO ADD THAT ALL TO MY CALENDAR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE CALENDAR OR ANY IDEA.
ALBERTA. WE HAVE THE AGENDA OPEN FOR IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT DIDN'T MAKE THEIR CALENDAR. YEAH, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A THING, THOUGH.
THEIR CALENDAR SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ALL THE MEETINGS ON IT. YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER. WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. THEN I'M. WE PROBABLY CAN'T HOLD IT. THAT'S TOO SHORT A NOTICE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I GOT THE COUNCIL MEETING AT 6 P.M.
ON THE 14TH. OKAY, LOOK AT THAT.
THIS IS WHAT IS IN MY CALENDAR.
THE TEAMS ACCESS TEAM ACCESS IS 6 P.M., BUT THE COUNCIL'S MEETINGS AREN'T ON THERE.
USUALLY THEY START AT 630 OR 7:00 MEETING, BUT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AREN'T ON THE CALENDAR. ON THE TEAM ACCESS THE CALL INTO THE TEAMS MEETING, ALL OF THAT BEHIND THE SCENES.
OH, YOU'RE MAKING COLORED CARTOONS OF YOU? YEAH. YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW, MAN.
I'M WELL, THAT'S. BUT THERE'S NO BUDGET MEETING ON, LIKE, MY CITY CALENDAR.
YOU SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION WHEN YOU ARE REALLY CERTAIN BOUNDARIES.
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO ALL THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE BOUNDARIES AND THE AFFECTED PROPERTY.
WELL, I THINK WE HAD IN THE SCHOOL AND WE HAD IN THE PROPERTY, AS DAN SAID.
AND THAT PUTS YOU RIGHT UP ALONG ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, AND THAT GETS YOU ALL THE WAY WEST TO WHAT'S LEFT OF THE.
WHAT'S LEFT OF WHAT? ON THE LEASE ON THE STAR RANCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO? YEAH. I THINK YOU JUST DO IT ANYWAY. RIGHT.
BECAUSE STAR RANCH WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE UNTIL WE'RE COLLECTING PROPERTY TAX OVER THERE ANYWAY. YEAH. SO YOU JUST DO THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY FROM THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY? YEAH, AS LONG AS THEY'LL APPROVE IT. RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN. ORACLE.
LIKE, WHAT DO THEY GET? LIKE ONE VOTE PER LOT OR SOMETHING. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU CREATE THE CURVE IN JAPAN AND IT INCLUDES THE MUD YOU WOULDN'T COLLECT ANY
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TAX INCREMENT UNTIL YOU WOULD, UNTIL YOU ANNEX THE MONEY, UNTIL THE PROBABLY. BUT YOU'D HAVE YOUR BASE, RIGHT? WHICH IS ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE BASE, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BUILD A BRIDGE DOWN THERE ANYWAY. BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT BASS.UNLESS UNLESS THEY THEY WERE PARTICIPATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WHICH I THINK COULD BE. EIGHT YEARS.
AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO COME RECESS UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH. WE'LL RECESS UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THIRD TIME RECONVENING THE WORK SESSION AT 12:49 A.M..
WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE AGENDAS I NEVER GOT ONE.
AUGUST 8TH LEFT MINE DOWNSTAIRS.
OKAY, THERE YOU GO. IT'S JUST ONE ITEM.
THERE YOU GO. I WANT TO WRITE NOTES.
SO YOU GOT PAPER. PROCESS, DAN? GOOD. SO WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL.
MAYOR SNYDER AND EVAN PORTERFIELD.
AARON KING, JIM MORRIS, GARY THOMPSON, PETER GORDON, DAN HARMON. EVERYBODY'S HERE.
WE DISCUSSED THE TOURISM ON 130.
THE IDEA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS ALL THE LAND ALONG 130 TO THE WEST.
THAT INCLUDES THE ISD LAND, EVERYTHING THAT'S LEFT IN THE CITY ON THE WEST, AND THEN ON THE EAST, ALL THE UNDEVELOPED LAND ON THE EAST, UP AND DOWN 130 FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR ETJ TJ TO THE VERY NORTHERN.
YEAH, WE ADDED THE ISD AND LIKE FOUR PARCELS DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT THAT ARE.
YEAH BASICALLY EVERYTHING DOWN TO CAT'S LANE.
THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN ANNEXED IN BUT IS UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE TOURS.
LIKE WHAT. WHY WOULD WE DO A TOUR. LIKE I WASN'T AT THE MEETING SO I DIDN'T KNOW.
THE CONCEPT WAS TO ASSESS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
TODAY IS UNDEVELOPED. AND THEN AS IT DEVELOPS IT, IT WILL BE ABLE TO PAY THE CITY BACK FOR THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN ON THE WEST SIDE OF 130. POTENTIALLY IT CAN PAY FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON 130, AND IT CAN PAY FOR THE BRIDGES OVER IF WE CHOOSE TO OVER BRUSHY CREEK ONE DAY.
BUT BY HAVING IT ALL ASSESSED NOW AND STAR RANCH BEING INCLUDED WHEN WE TAKE STAR RANCH OVER IN, I THINK IT'S EIGHT YEARS WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THAT VALUE YOU AND ME.
WE GOTTA COME UP WITH ANOTHER MEETING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THE VALUE WE WANT TO PUT TO THE TOURS. THIS IS JUST A BOUNDARY, BUT THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR BECAUSE WE COULD FUND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ANYWAY WITHOUT THE TOURS.
RIGHT. IT'S JUST GUARANTEEING THAT YOU'LL DO THAT.
IS THAT IS THAT WHY TWO THINGS.
IT TAKES IT OUT OF THE TAX CALCULATION SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR TAX RATES LIKE WE DID WITH THE DATA CENTERS. AND THEN THE DEBT DOESN'T.
THE DEBT IT TAKES OUT DOESN'T IMPACT THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY TAXPAYERS. AND IT ALSO GIVES AN OPTION THAT A DEVELOPER CAN PUT IN FRONTAGE ROAD AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING REIMBURSED THROUGH THE TOURS, SO THEY CAN HAVE KIND OF A GUARANTEED PAYBACK THAT WAY. THAT DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET.
SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR FOR THAT IN, IN THE PROJECT FINANCING PLAN.
OTHER COMPONENT THAT YOU NEED TO LET THEM KNOW IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE, WHICH THEN LEVERAGES YOUR DOLLARS.
YEAH. OKAY. I TALKED TO BOWLES BOB DAVIS.
NOT A BIG FAN OF THIS, BUT LIKE WE SAID, BOB DAY.
I KNOW HE WANTED. HE JUST SAYS THE COUNTY IS NOT REALLY KEEN ON SUPPORTING ROAD PROJECTS.
EXTRA ROAD PROJECTS. AND SO WE GOT TO BE VERY SELECTIVE.
SO I TALKED I MET WITH THE JUDGE THIS MORNING. YESTERDAY MORNING NOW.
AND, LIKE, LOOK, WE'RE TRYING TO GET DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ANYBODY SELLING BONDS, WITHOUT ANYBODY ADJUSTING BUDGETS AND RAISING TAX RATES. SO I SAID, WE JUST WANT THE COUNTY TO BE INVOLVED AT SOME, AT SOME POINT TO HELP WITH ALL THIS.
WE CAN'T GET OUR MONEY BACK FOR THE NOT THAT WE'RE PAYING.
I THINK THE DEVELOPERS PAYING, BUT WE CAN'T REIMBURSE THE DESIGN OF THE WASTEWATER LINE LINE ALONG 132 I'M SORRY, ALONG 130.
BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. BUT ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE WANT TO FIX YOU CAN LIST THAT AS A PROJECT.
AND THEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DESIGN THAT, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, IF WE NEED TO FIX DELIVER BECAUSE THE THIRD HIGH SCHOOL COMES IN IN 15 YEARS, THAT DISTRICT MAY HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT TO WHERE THE DISTRICT WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR
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THEY CAN THEY EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.FIRST DISTRICT? NO, I MEAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
LIKE IF THE COUNTY CAN PAY IN, CAN A CAN A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR ARE THEY NOT PERMITTED? I DON'T THINK THEY CAN.
THEY DON'T. THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THE SCHOOLS THERE BASED ON THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING LIKE. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO.
YEAH. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT. SO I DON'T THINK THEY CAN'T ANYWAY BECAUSE THE 132 TOURS THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE ISD, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A STATUTORY RIGHT TO GET INVOLVED IN IT.
BUT YOU CAN INCLUDE THEIR PROPERTY IF YOU WANT TO, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE, BECAUSE YOU MAY WANT TO DO SIDEWALKS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BENEFIT THE SCHOOL.
YEAH. YEAH. AND AND THEN THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS THE RANDOM CHANCE THAT THEY SAW THAT LAND IN THE FUTURE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT. SO DIFFERENT PARTNERS.
YEAH. STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.
WELL, I MEAN, AFTER HEARING THE PROPOSAL.
IF THERE'S EVEN AN INKLING OF A CHANCE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT 25% OR 50%, I THINK YOU I THINK YOU CREATE THIS DISTRICT EVERY SINGLE TIME, IF THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE EVERY YOU'RE GETTING DOLLARS FROM THEM FOR THESE PROJECTS.
AND IF YOU CAN GET THAT, EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SPENT IS NOW COSTING YOU $0.50, YOU KNOW.
SO IF YOU CAN GET THE COUNTY THEN I SAY THIS IS A NO BRAINER HANDS DOWN.
IF YOU CAN'T GET THE COUNTY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WISDOM TO DOING IT BECAUSE WE COULD ARGUABLY, YOU KNOW, USE THE, THE TAX INCREMENT TO TO GUARANTEE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS WHO SPEND THE MONEY HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET REIMBURSED OVER TIME.
AND YOU CAN STILL DO THAT WITH A 380 OR SOME OTHER AGREEMENT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T OTHER WAYS THAT DETERS DOESN'T GET CREATED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO EITHER. LIKE THE EPITOME. I WOULDN'T WANT TO REIMBURSE THAT GUY BECAUSE HE'S DOING A BUILDING THAT ROAD ON HIS OWN.
YEAH, HE'S GETTING THE MONEY FROM THE PIT.
YES, WE APPRECIATE HIM DOING THAT.
AND THE TOURIST MONEY THAT HE'S GOING TO ADD THE VALUE TO THE TOURS WE'LL USE TO BUILD THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT SAME BOAT.
THEY MIGHT BE LIKE, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GET REIMBURSED SLOWLY OVER TIME. WE WANT TO HAVE A PIT SO WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR MONEY UP FRONT WHEN WE ISSUE THE PIT BOND, YOU KNOW. SO BUT I TALKED TO THE STATE GUYS, THEIR SUPPORT OF IT. I TALKED TO STAR RANCH.
THE SUPPORT OF IT. LOOKING AT TEX MEX IS SUPPORTIVE.
I THEN TALKED AT ISD BECAUSE IT WOULD COST THEM ANYTHING.
THEY. AND I THINK YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE 75% OF PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO BE ON BOARD IN ORDER TO CREATE THE DISTRICT.
AND SO WITH EPITOME, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT TOO.
WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE. YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO I MEAN BUT ALL THE SAME I 75% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, 75%, I THINK OF THE AREA AREA, THE LAND MASS.
YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU GET A COUPLE OF BIG ONES AND AND MY OTHER CAVEAT WAS, IS THAT IF IT'S LIKE IF IT'S LIKE A 50% DEAL OR NOT 100% BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF OUR TOWN COVERED UP IN TERS. AND THAT'S WHILE IT DOES KEEP IT OFF OUR TAX RATE, IT ALSO IS A IT'S ALSO A PROBLEM FOR THE FOR THE O AND M BUDGET.
YEAH. YEAH. THERE IS A TOP UP PART ON THE TOP LEFT THAT JAMES HAD BRING UP THAT HEY POTENTIALLY THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE, THEY, THEY MAY NEVER ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
SO YOU MAY HAVE PART OF A CHURCH THAT'S IN THE ETJ THAT'S NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
BUT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE DID THAT WITH THE THE MEGA CENTERS IN THE AREA THAT'S BLUE IS IN THE ETJ, BUT DOES NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO ANNEX.
SO WE SHOULD IF WE DO IT, WE SHOULD DO IT FROM NORTHERN TO SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES. NO DOUBT. BUT THEN THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY HERE.
SO THAT THAT BLUE OUT THERE SCHOOL.
BUT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS IS THE EPITOME RIGHT HERE.
YEAH. SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
YEP. YOU GO BACK TO THE AGENDA FOR A MINUTE.
YEP. RIGHT BACK TO IT. YES, SIR.
I LEFT ALL THESE SCREENS UP, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL THE THE THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED TO CREATE A THIRD BOUNDARY ZONE THAT ENCOMPASSES 130 WEST TO THE EDGE OF OUR ETJ AND DEVELOPED EAST TO THE EDGE OF OUR UNDEVELOPED AREA, AND THEN TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF OUR ETJ.
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IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? I YOU DO NOT MEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S IN OUR ETJ.YOU MEAN WITHIN A CERTAIN BOUNDARY DISTANCE TO 130? THE WELL, THE UNDEVELOPED YOU HIT DEVELOPED PRETTY QUICKLY WHEN YOU GO THE LOTS.
BOUNDING 130. YEAH, BORDERING ON 130.
YEAH, YEAH. SECOND, GENERALLY FOLLOWING THIS, THIS EXHIBIT ADDING THE PROPERTIES AT THE SOUTH TO SOUTH TO THE ISD LAND AND THE ISD BUS. BUS DEPOT. YEAH. I DON'T WANT IS FOR.
OH, SORRY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.
IS IS TO THINK THAT THE BOUNDARY IS WAY OVER HERE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING.
OR OVER HERE. I'M NOT DOING THAT.
YEAH, NO, JUST INCORPORATING THE STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE ALONG THE WAY.
I'M TRACKING. I MEAN, I'M GOING TO GO WITH LIKE BASICALLY THE MAP THAT YOU PROVIDED, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES.
YEAH. HOW FAR SOUTH DOES IT GO? ALL THE WAY TO WHERE IT GOES DOWN TO KATHLEEN KATZ.
YES. YEAH. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? RIGHT. WELL I CALL IT A PORTERFIELD.
WHAT'S UP IN THAT MEETING? YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION
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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.