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CALL SESSION ORDER[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
SIX OH TWO.ROLL CALL COUNCILOR THOMPSON MORRIS HERE THAT FOR GORDON COURTFIELD.
[3.1. Discussion and possible action about a potential Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) along Texas State Highway (SH) 130 corridor through parts of Hutto City limits. (Mayor Snyder)]
SHADOW HERE.UH, FIRST ITEM IS THREE ONE DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ABOUT A POTENTIAL TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TERMS ALONG TEXAS STATE, SH ONE 30 CORRIDOR, FEW PARTS OF HU CITY LIMITS COPIES OF COPY.
SO TALKING TO MATT WHEN, ASK YOU ABOUT ONE 30, AND I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL US, OR I CAN SAY WHAT I THINK I KNOW ABOUT EARTH.
YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, HOW YOU WANNA DO IT.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT EARTH YOU GUYS ARE NEW, IS IT'S A BOUNDARY THAT WE, WE MAKE THE BOUNDARY LINES TODAY AND THEY ASSESS THE PROPERTY AT TODAY'S UNDEVELOPED VALUE AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO USE WHATEVER WE DETERMINE THE PORTION OF THE INCREASED VALUE AND THE TAXES THAT COME FROM THAT TO HELP FUND THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT ARE FOR BONDS THAT ARE SOLD FOR IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN THAT BOUNDARY.
IF, IF BONDS ARE SOLD, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.
OTHERWISE YOU CAN DO, UH, REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH, UM, A DEVELOPER WITHIN THE PURSE THAT'S BEEN BUILT
SO WHERE THIS CAME FROM WAS WITH ONE 30 CORRIDOR BLOWING UP.
WE'RE WANTING THIS NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE CIP TO START THE DESIGN OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY.
UM, EPITOME JUST GOT A QUOTE BACK ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT'S LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A LINEAR FOOT TO BUILD A FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND SO THEY'RE BUILDING WHATEVER, IT'S 1500 FEET AND WE HAVE TWO OR 3000 ON EACH SIDE PLUS DESIGN.
THE SOUTH SIDE OF SEVEN NINE, YOU HAVE BRIDGES OVER BRUSHY CREEK.
SO WHAT I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IS ESTABLISHING A TOUR BOUNDARY THAT INCLUDED THE PARTS, THE UNDEVELOPED PARTS OF, UH, STAR RANCH.
THERE'S A FUNCTION THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR MUD BONDS AND IT MAY BE AFTER, BUT YOU SET THE, YOU'RE SETTING THE VALUE TODAY SO THAT IF IT DEVELOPS IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, UH, ANYWAY, UM, FROM THE BOTTOM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TEX MIX, UH, IT DIDN'T WORK ALL THE WAY NORTH THROUGH, UH, THE AVERY FARM.
THE EAST SIDE OF ONE 30 FOR ANYTHING THAT DEVELOPS.
UH, AND THE, UH, THE, THE RED DIDN'T, DIDN'T PRINT.
OH REALLY? THE EAST SIDE OF, UH, YEAH, SURE.
THE E THE EAST SIDE OF ONE 30 WHERE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT'S COMING, LIKE IN TERMS OF TOYOTA ALL THE WAY EAST TO THE, UM, TSTC TEMPLE COLLEGE LAND, THEN WEST ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE AVERY, BUT NOT THE ISD BECAUSE THAT'LL BE NON-TAX AND THEN IT GOES UP, WE IT HAS TO BE CHANGED ON THE TOP RIGHT.
THAT'S NOW TSTC LAND WHERE IT SAYS PARIS SOMETHING.
SO THAT COULD BE IN THERE, BUT THE CORRIDOR UP THERE.
AND THEN THE NORTH SIDE WOULD BE, UM, THE PEARL OF STATES WOULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL AS EPITOME AND EVERYTHING ELSE DEVELOPS.
AND SO I THINKING WAS IF WE SET IT NOW BEFORE ALL THIS STUFF KICKS OFF, IT'LL HELP WITH THE TAX RATE IN TERMS OF THAT MONEY WON'T GO WHATEVER WE DECIDE IF IT'S 50% OR WHATEVER, THAT MONEY WON'T GO INTO TAX CALCULATIONS, BUT THAT MONEY WILL BE SITTING THERE SO THAT WE CAN START THE DESIGN OF THE ROADS TODAY, REIMBURSE OURSELVES THAT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUILDING NO SPREAD ROADS ON THE NORTH SIDE, THAT'S EASY.
THEN WE CAN START THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND STUFF ON THE SOUTH.
AND THEN I MET WITH THE JUDGE TODAY.
I MET WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER.
I MET WITH THE JUDGE TODAY THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO THROW MONEY IN AND BORROW MONEY FOR US, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE ONES PUSHING A LOT OF THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALONG HERE.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE THEM TO DO IS AT LEAST GIVE A PORTION OF THEIR TAXES, WHETHER IT BE 50 OR 75% THAT'S GONNA COME IN ON THAT TO THE S DISTRICT SO WE CAN BUILD OUT THE FRONTAGE ROADS.
AND, UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID NO WAS THE COUNTY ENGINEER, BUT
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YOU CAN INCLUDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF YOU WANT TO.EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T PAY, DO THE, JUST IF YOU WANT THEM IN BOUNDARIES, YOU CAN DO THAT.
I DID, I JUST, I DIDN'T WANT TO COMPLICATE A DEAL WITH SOMEONE THAT HAD NO, NO PAYMENT.
BUT IF, IF THERE'S A BENEFIT TO IT, I, I DON'T REALLY CARE AS LONG AS WE, FOR ME, AS LONG AS WE GET THE BOUNDARIES SET TODAY, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY, I THINK, EPITOME ONCE IT BREAK ROUND, UM, STARTED NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN TOYOTA IS READY TO BREAK GROUND, BUT IF ALL THESE GUYS START BREAKING GROUND, UM, IT'S GONNA RUIN OUR BUILDING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS, LIKE, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO APPRAIS IT FIRST PLACE PRIOR TO THE, SO DOES THAT GO NORTH TO THE END OF OR ETJ? WHERE, WHERE IS THE
TO OUR ETJ THAT THE EDGE, EDGE OF THE ETJ.
WHEN YOU GO FURTHER EAST, WE'D GO NORTH OF CHANDLER, UH, PAST THE DUMP, BUT RIGHT HERE NO, NO, BUT IT'S JUST TO GET THE ONE 30 CORRIDOR IN THAT'S IN OUR ETJ THE ENTIRE THING BASICALLY.
ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79.
NOW, AND WITH THE, WITH THE, THE MUD, WHEN I TALKED TO THOSE GUYS, UM, WHAT THEY SAID WAS IS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISM EXACTLY BECAUSE IT CAN AFFECT THEIR MUD BONDS.
BUT PFLUGERVILLE HAS DONE SOMETHING WHERE THEY DID A T AND INCLUDED ONE OF THEIR MUDS IN IT AND, BUT I THINK WE'RE TAKING OVER STAR RANCH OR WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT OVER IN LIKE EIGHT YEARS OR SOMETHING.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT JAMES? YEAH.
SO THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT AREA DEVELOPING EIGHT YEARS MAY NOT BE THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH GOING AHEAD AND ASSESS GETTING THE APPRAISED VALUE TODAY, LOW IS CORN, THEN IN EIGHT YEARS, IF IT BUILDS UP INTO APARTMENTS, THEN WE STILL REALIZE ALL THAT GAIN.
COUPLE OF GENERAL QUESTIONS ARE ALL TURS 10 YEARS OR THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE LENGTH OF TIME.
AND WHEN DOES THAT SET AT THE TIME YOU SET THE BOUNDARIES? TYPICALLY IT DOESN'T GO DOWN 40 YEARS.
'CAUSE IN TEXAS YOU CAN ONLY BOND FOR 40 YEARS.
SO YOU DON'T, BUT MOST HERS IS, I BELIEVE 20 OR 30 YEARS.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT WE ALWAYS AMEN HER TO EXTEND THE TIME TO OH, OKAY.
SO DOES THAT TIME WINDOW OR THE, DOES THAT SET WHEN WE SET THE BOUNDARIES OR CAN THAT BE SET AT A LATER DATE? DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY AS WELL? THE TERMS OF THE TERMS, WHAT, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS JUST PROVIDE SOME SORT OF DIRECTION SO THAT STAFF CAN FIGURE OUT, CREATE SOMETHING.
WELL COULD BE IF WE HAVE RIGHT? ACTUALLY NO, WE DON'T.
SO IF WE GET A FIFTH PERSON IN HERE, WE COULD RIGHT NOW, IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, I MEAN WE COULD SAY INITIALLY WE WANNA BUILD FRONTAGE ROADS ON THE NORTH SIDE,
AND THEN LET'S SAY EVERYTHING BLOWS UP.
THE DEBT SERVICE IS EASILY COVERED BY THE INCREASED TAX VALUE THAT WE'RE GETTING, OUR TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GETTING EITHER THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'RE ABLE TO FUND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE TS BOUNDARY THAT BENEFIT THE TS DISTRICT.
AS LONG AS YOU PUT THAT IN THE FINANCING PLAN THAT THET PROJECTS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST GET LIKE SIDEWALKS.
PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ROADS, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT REALLY WIDE OPEN ONLY SO THAT WHEN ALL THIS IS GROWING, WE CAN COME BACK IN.
WE GOT A HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING TO THE WEST, WE CAN THEN SITE, MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON TO PUT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THERE IS SO WE CAN YEAH.
WORK IN AGREEMENT OUT WITH THEM AND FILLED SIDEWALKS, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE INTERCHANGE OF LIMBER IF IT EVER NEEDS TO BE REDONE IN THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS.
MY THOUGHT IS, IS IT'S SO UNDEVELOPED NOW THAT, AND THEN WE CAN PUT AN ASTERISK JAMES MAYBE BY EVERY PROJECT THAT'S OVER THERE THAT THIS IS, I MEAN, EVEN IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
IF WE SET THIS BOUNDARY BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF A WASTEWATER LINE, COULD THE DISTRICT AT SOME POINT IN TIME PAY THE CITY BACK FOR THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT WAS INSTALLED AFTER THE DISTRICT WAS FORMED? SINCE WE'VE ONLY DESIGNED IT SO FAR, YOU CAN PUT IT IN AS A PROJECT AND UM, WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD PAY REIMBURSED FOR COST FOR EXTENDED.
BUT I DUNNO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER PAID THE SIGN.
BUT IF WE, IF WE SET THIS UP BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN JANUARY, WE COULD REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS
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OF THE WASTE OUR LAND.IT, IT IS PROVIDED THAT TO PROJECT IN
IF THIS IS KICKING OFF A LOT OF MONEY, YOU COULD SOMEHOW SAY SINCE THIS WASTEWATER FLOWS TO THE, THE NEW PLANT BEING DONE, THEY CAN PAY A PRO RATA SHARE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO, UH, ONE AREA OF DISCUSSION IS THE PART HERE THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE BOUNDARIES THAT'S IN BLUE, THAT'S ONLY IN THE ETJ AND DOES NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN LIEU OF ANNEXATION IN PLACE.
UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO FORCE THEM TO ANNEX AND THEREFORE A, I DON'T KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE CREATE A TURS IN OUR EJ BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANYTHING ANYWAY ON YEAH, THE MEGA SITE IS LARGELY IN THE ETJ AND I THINK AS LONG AS YOU HAVE 75% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU COULD, YOU, YOU COULD HAVE PROPERTY THAT ALL ALSO BECOMES PART OF THE TOURS.
ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT WANT IT, BUT 75% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE BOUNDARY SAID YES TO IT.
75% OF THE LAND OR SENT BY THE PEOPLE.
BUT IF THERE'S THE LAND, BUT IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANY PROPERTY TAX, THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO PUT BACK INTO THE TURS.
EVEN IF THE PROPERTY'S IN THE TURS NOT YET.
SO ONLY IF THE ANNEXES, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH, IT WOULD'VE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
SO, SO THE AREA THAT'S BLUE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY EVER BE ABLE TO ANNEX 'EM, BUT IF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES, YOU COULD STILL GET COUNTY TAX, YOU COULD GET THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE AND YOU WOULD NEED THE COUNTY TO HELP FORM THE THE TURS.
THERE'S ALWAYS THAT RISK, BUT THE MEGA SIDE TAR AND THAT, THAT HAS A LOT OF LAND THAT'S IN THE ETJ AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON IT THAT GOES FROM SKYBOX ALL THE WAY TO 33 40.
BUT WE BOUGHT THAT LAND AND WE CONTROL IT.
WHAT LAND DO WE NOT CONTROL THAT'S IN THE MEGA SITE? MOST OF IT, THE WHOLE MIDDLE OF IT.
WE OWN, WE OWN A COUPLE, A FEW HUNDRED ACRES.
AT 33 49 YOU MEAN THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH WE DON'T OWN AND THEN THERE'S SKYBOX ALL THAT PURPLE.
BUT THIS IS ALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN LIEU OF ANNEXATION.
THIS IS THE ONLY PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, BUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY MAY NEVER DEVELOP, BUT IF THEY DO, THEY THEY FORCE THEY'RE FORCED ANNEXATION AT THAT POINT.
I I THINK OVER THERE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY, WE'RE GONNA FORCE EM TO ANNEX ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE SEWER, BLOOD, WATER.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT SURE.
ACTUALLY CAN'T MAKE THEM ANNEX.
BUT YES, LIKELINESS LIKELIHOOD IS IT'S PROBABLE.
IT'S PROBABLE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED.
SO I HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE BOUNDARIES.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE AT THE, AT THE SOUTHERN PART? THAT'S, UH, CARAMEL CREEK, ISN'T IT? CAR CREEK? NO, NO.
HOW FAR DOWN ARE WE GOING WITH THIS? I THINK HE'S STOPPING RIGHT HERE.
WHERE THE NO, NO, IT GOES, IT GOES DOWN, UH, DOWN WHERE 6 85 CROSSES.
UH, THAT'S WHERE STAR BOULEVARD IS, RIGHT? OH, DOWN THERE.
LEMME GO BACK OVER TO THAT CONVENTION.
OKAY, THAT'S NORTH, THAT'S DOWN TO 79.
'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THE WAY I SAW THAT WAS, THAT'S THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT DOWN THERE.
BECAUSE THERE IS THE LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF ONE 30 BETWEEN WHERE 6 85 SPLITS OFF DOWN TO CATZ LANE, THAT'S IN THE CITY ALREADY AND IT'S UNDEVELOPED.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT HOTELS THERE.
HAPPY TO THROW IT IN THAT FLOODPLAIN OR THE SOUTH SOUTH OF THERE.
SOUTH THAT, SOUTH OF THAT GREEN? NO, KEEP GOING SOUTH.
THAT YELLOW BELOW THE GREEN THAT'S UNDEVELOPED.
IS THAT YEAH, BECAUSE THIS UP HERE IS IN THE MUD, RIGHT? YEAH, WHICH IS IN THE MUD.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL THE MUD GREENS IN THE MUD.
SO, BUT NOT ALL THE GREEN, IT STOPS SOMEWHERE UP THERE AT THE TOP, BUT NOW YOU'RE GETTING IN WHERE THE ISD BOUGHT THAT LAND LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION.
SO PRETTY WELL THE, THE ISD BOUGHT THE LAND THAT IS RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY ADD THAT, I WOULD SAY BASICALLY I WOULD SAY ADD EVERYTHING EVEN THAT ISD LAND ADD IT ALL.
UH, YOU JUST, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING JUST CAPTURE THAT WHOLE ONE 30 CORRIDOR SO WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON THE, ON THE GROWTH BASICALLY.
WELL, SETTING THE RATES LOW BEFORE THE SUCCESSION, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL YOU'RE STARTING IT BEFORE IT GETS, I KNOW THE NEGATIVE PARTS OF THIS ARE THAT IF IT GROWS, IT'S
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WORTH WHATEVER, A BILLION DOLLARS THAT THAT'S ON THERE.AND WE SAY, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY WE SAY TO, IF I'M WRONG IN THIS JAMES, IF WE SAY WE WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MONEY COMING IN TO GO TO THE TURS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL BILLION DEVELOPED, THAT'S VALUED, WE'RE NEVER SEEN A TAX RATE.
SO WE'LL ADJUST THAT, BUT THAT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO USE FOR OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS.
AND UNTIL THE TURS, THE PURPOSE OF THE TURS IS, IS, IS, IS DONE AT WHICH POINT THEN THAT REVENUE WOULD COME OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUNCTION JUST A MATTER OF HOW MUCH YEAH.
WHAT PERCENT WE WANNA SET IT UP.
I MEAN, GENERALLY I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY YOU TYPICALLY LOOK AT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND $500 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS, WELL THEN YOU USE THAT AND THEN YOU CALCULATE OUT, OKAY, WELL HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US TO TO, TO FUND THAT IF THIS DEVELOPS A CERTAIN WAY.
THE THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT TOO IS, IS UM, WHAT'S THE DEMAND ON SERVICES FOR THAT AREA, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF POLICING OR THAT SORT OF STUFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S YOU BRING IN RETAILERS AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WELL THEN YOU MAY WANT TO THEN CONSIDER, OKAY, WHAT IF WE DO 70? WHAT IF WE A HUNDRED PERCENT 75 50? GENERALLY I DON'T SEE THERE WOULD BE MUCH VALUE GOING BELOW 50 UNLESS YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO USE IT TO LIKE UPGRADE THINGS.
NOT ACTUALLY BUILD LIKE HARD INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THE FRONTAGE ROADS ARE CERTAINLY NOT, UH, ANYTHING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER AS CHEAP.
SO I WOULD START AT 50 AND GO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND A HUNDRED DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TIMELINE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS STUFF BUILT AND HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST WE PROJECT AND HOW LONG WE WANT THIS TO BE ABLE TO PAY, PAY FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR MUCH LONGER THAN 30 YEARS.
YOU CAN ISSUE DEBT AGAINST THE TURFS.
I WAS THINKING 75%, BUT NOT ONE THING TO SERVICE.
BUT I KNOW THE BRIDGE IS OVER BRUSHY CREEK THAT WAS SOLD ABOUT A CAN A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
THAT'S GONNA BE SO EXPENSIVE THEY'LL NEVER GET AROUND TO IT.
AND I THOUGHT, WELL THAT REALLY WOULD BE A HUGE HELP IN MAKING, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO TRAVEL FROM NORTH SIDE OF TOWN TO SOUTH SIDE WITHOUT HAVING TO GET THEM ON THE TOLL ROADS.
AND TO ME, THAT BRIDGE, IT'S LIKE I TOLD THE JUDGE TODAY, WE COULD WIDEN CHRIS KELLY AND SAY SPEND 30 OR $40 MILLION WIPING THAT.
BUT WHY IS CHRIS KELLY SO BUSY? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FRONTAGE ROADS ON ONE 30 AND PEOPLE ARE USING THAT AS A ROUTE NORTH.
AND SO ALMOST IF YOU BUILT A FRONTAGE ROAD BEFORE YOU WHITE CHRIS KELLY, YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY TAKE ENOUGH TRAFFIC OFF OF SOME OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO, LIKE I LIVE NORTH OF TOWN, I HAVE TO EXIT CHRIS KELLY TO GO HOME IF I LIVE UNLESS I LIVE UP OFF LIMBER, UM, TO GET UP AND LIKE IF I WANNA GO TO HOME DEPOT, I HAVE TEXAS.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE, THAT THE BRIDGE ACROSS BRUSHY CREEK IS PROBABLY LIKE THE, THE LEAST IMPORTANT PART, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ARE THE ACCESS ROADS THAT ARE NORTH OF 79.
BECAUSE FRANKLY YOU, YOUR BANG FOR THE BUCK TO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN GET, YOU CAN GET OFF GOING NORTH AND THEN, AND THEN GO UNDERNEATH THE RAIL AND GET BACK ONTO THE TOLL ROAD.
IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH ON ONE 30, YOU DON'T NEED THE ACCESS ROAD.
BUT IF YOU'RE AT STAR RANCH AND YOU WANT TO GO, YOU WANT TO GO TO 79, YOU'RE GONNA COME UP CHRIS KELLY.
GENERALLY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO GET ON THE TOLL ROAD FOR ONE EXIT TO GET BACK OFF UNLESS YOU'RE JUST IN A SUPER RUSH.
SO YOU, YOU'D BE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE.
BUT IS THAT WORTH, YOU KNOW, THE COST, YOU KNOW, IS THE, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE, SO TO SPEAK ON THAT? WHEREAS IF YOU CONNECT THE EXCESS ROADS ON THE NORTH AND YOU GIVE PEOPLE WASTE TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF AND GET BACK ON, 'CAUSE IT'S TRUE GOING NORTH TOO.
LIKE YOU CAN'T GET ON AT LEER, I DON'T THINK.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO CHANDLER NORTH.
LEMME ASK GO NORTH, WHICH YOU CAN'T GO SOUTH.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AND YOU CAN EXIT, YOU CAN EXIT SOUTHBOUND TO LEER, BUT YOU CAN'T EXIT LEER NORTHBOUND.
TO ME, THE FRONT, THE, THE FRONT ROADS ON THE NORTH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
BUT THEN I THINK AT SOME POINT
BUT ONCE THAT ALL DEVELOPS, WE'VE ALMOST HAD LIKE 600 APARTMENTS.
UM, IT'S ALL CHRIS KELLY CAN'T HANDLE EVERYTHING 'CAUSE EVERYTHING FLOWS UP TO, UM, CARL STERN.
BUT TO ME THAT'S A, THAT'S, I MEAN THE ENGINEERING ALONE, THAT WOULD BE IN THE MILLIONS.
THE PURPOSE OF IT FIRST IS TO TAKE THE UNDEVELOPED AREA AND PUT A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENCOURAGE, DEVELOP.
AND THIS SECTION OF BLUE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE, THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY.
BUT REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD BE IN QUESTION ARE IS IS WEST OF ONE 30,
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NORTH OF UH, IS THAT LEER? YEAH, NORTH OF LEER.EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE PARCEL LIKE THAT.
THAT BLUE AREA RIGHT THERE NORTH, THE EAST SIDE ALREADY ANNEXED IN.
'CAUSE THE EPI ME'S RIGHT UP HERE.
YEAH, EPIS JUST NORTH OF THAT PURPLE RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY JUST GOT THAT SECTION BECAUSE THEY WERE WANTING TO BUILD THE REST OF THE FRONT ROAD ON THE SIDE UP TO CONNECT.
THAT'S WHERE I FIGURED IT'S A PRETTY GOOD QUOTE.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A YEAH, THAT SOMEBODY JUST BID OUT.
AND THEN I THINK DONNA SAID THEN I WAS THINKING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT DEVELOP, IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO BUILD, IF WE GET, IF WE GET IT DESIGNED AND THEY GO TO BUILD IT, IF WE HAVE A WAY TO FUND IT AND REIMBURSE THEM FOR EM, YOU CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS TO THE TURS TO THEN REIMBURSE PEOPLE TO WHERE AGAIN, UH, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET DEVELOPMENT EVEN FASTER KNOWING THAT THE TOURS WILL BE PAYING THEM BACK.
PERSON, AARON'S ON HIS WAY BACK, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD UH, RECESS THE WORKSHOP, GO INTO A REGULAR SESSION WHEN EVERYBODY'S HERE AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO VOTE, THEN BRING THIS BACK UP.
MAKE YOUR VOTE, GIVE YOUR DIRECTION DOWNSTAIRS.
OH, I SAY WE GOT EARLIER RECESS.
SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE, YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE LOCATION WHEN WE COME BACK.
OH, BECAUSE YOU'RE MEETING UP HERE.
SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK UP HERE TO YEAH.
WE'RE COMING UP FOR EXECUTIVE.
SO WE COULD RECESS DOWNSTAIRS.
GET OUT OF EXECUTIVE REOPEN OUR WORKSHOP.
UH, YOU
YOU'D HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO RECORD.
I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN GET THE MEETING BACK UP AND AGAIN, YOU COULD DO THAT.
YOU WANT THE PUBLIC RECORD FOR THE ACTION? I MEAN, Y'ALL WOULD DO IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAD THE FIFTH VOTE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
SO THERE'S A MECHANISM TO DO IT TONIGHT.
OR YOU CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS OR YOU CAN WAIT NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN DO IT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT THURSDAY.
I NEED Y'ALL TO ADD THAT ALL TO MY CALENDAR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS, THAT'S NOT ON THE CALENDAR.
ANY IDEA? ALBERTA? WE HAVE THE AGENDA OPEN FOR IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DIDN'T MAKE THEIR CALENDAR ALSO.
YEAH, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A THING THOUGH.
THEIR CALENDAR SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ALL THE MEETINGS ON.
Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND WE PROBABLY CAN'T HOLD IT.
I GOT THE COUNCIL MEETING AT 6:00 PM ON THE 14TH.
LOOK AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 14TH.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S IN MY CALENDAR.
YEAH, THE TEAMS ACCESS, TEAM ACCESS AT 6:00 PM BUT THE COUNCIL'S MEETINGS AREN'T ON THERE.
UH, AND USUALLY THEY START AT 6 34, 7 O'CLOCK MEETING.
BUT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AREN'T ON THE CALENDAR.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TEAM ACCESS, THE CALL INTO THE TEAMS MEETING, ALL THE BACK BEHIND THE SCENES MAKING COLOR CARTOONS OF YOU TECH GUYS? I DON'T KNOW MAN.
I'M WELL THAT'S, BUT THERE'S NO BUDGET MEETING ON LIKE MY CITY CALENDAR.
BUT I HAVE PROBLEMS CALENDAR 6:00 PM YOU SAID, UM, GIVE DIRECTION WHEN YOU ARE REALLY, UM, SO ABOUT BOUNDARIES, BECAUSE I'M GONNA DO ALL THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE BOUNDARIES AND THE EFFECTIVE PROPERTY.
WELL I THINK WE ADD IN THE SCHOOL AND WE ADD IN THE PROPERTIES, DAN SAID, AND THAT PUTS YOU RIGHT UP ALONG ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND THAT GETS YOU ALL THE WAY WEST TO WHAT'S LEFT OF THE, WHAT'S LEFT OF WHAT? ON THE LEASE ON THE STAR RANCH THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO.
YEAH, I THINK YOU JUST DO IT ANYWAY.
RIGHT? BECAUSE STAR RANCH WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE UNTIL WE'RE COLLECTING PROPERTY TAX OVER THERE ANYWAY.
SO YOU JUST DO THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY FROM THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
AS LONG AS THEY'LL APPROVE IT, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN OR LIKE WHAT DO THEY GET? LIKE ONE GO PER LOT OR SOMETHING? YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, WHEN IF YOU CREATE THE HERD AND EJ
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CAN, AND IT INCLUDES MUD, UM, YOU WOULDN'T COLLECT ANY TAX INCREMENT UNTIL YOU WOULD COOK UNTIL YOU ASKED THE MONEY, UNTIL THE, UM, PROBLEM EXAM.WHICH IS ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE BASE.
BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BUILD A BRIDGE DOWN THERE ANYWAY.
'CAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT BASE.
UNLESS, UH, UNLESS THEY, THEY WERE PARTICIPATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WHICH I THINK COULD BE EIGHT.
YOUR, OKAY, SO WE'LL RECESS AND THEN DO YOU WANT THE COME, UM, WANT RECESS UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH, WE'LL, RECESS UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THIRD TIME IS RECONVENE THE WORK SESSION AT 12:49 AM WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE AGENDAS.
SO YOU GOT PAPER
SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, ROLE PAUL, MAYOR SNYDER AND EVAN PORTERFIELD, AARON KING, JIM MORRIS
WE DISCUSSED THE TOURS ALONG ONE 30.
UH, THE IDEA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS ALL THE LAND PETER ALONG ONE 30 TO THE WEST, THAT INCLUDES THE ISD LAND, EVERYTHING THAT'S LEFT IN THE CITY ON THE WEST AND THEN ON THE EAST, ALL THE UNDEVELOPED LAND ON THE EAST UP AND DOWN ONE 30 FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR ETJ TO THE VERY NORTHERN WE ADDED.
YEAH, WE ADDED SD AND LIKE FOUR PARCELS DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THAT ARE, UH, YEAH, BASICALLY EVERYTHING DOWN TO CAT'S LANE.
YEAH, THAT'S BEEN, THAT, THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN ANNEXED IN, BUT IT IS UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE TURS? WELL, LIKE WHAT, WHY WOULD WE DO A TUR SITE? I WASN'T AT THE MEETING SO I DIDN'T, SO THE, THE CONCEPT WAS TO ASSESS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY TODAY IS UNDEVELOPED AND THEN AS IT DEVELOPS IT, IT WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, PAY THE CITY BACK FOR THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN ON THE WEST SIDE OF ONE 30.
POTENTIALLY IT CAN PAY FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON ONE 30 AND UH, IT CAN PAY FOR THE BRIDGES OVER IF WE CHOOSE TO EVER, UH, BRUSH YOUR CREEK ONE DAY.
BUT BY HAVING IT ALL ASSESSED NOW, AND STAR RANGE BEING INCLUDED, WHEN WE TAKE STAR RANCH OVER IN, I THINK IT'S EIGHT YEARS, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, TAKE ALL THAT VALUE THAT WE DECIDE WE GOTTA COME UP WITH ANOTHER MEETING TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THE VALUE WE WANNA PUT TO THE TURS.
THIS IS JUST THE BOUNDARY, BUT THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, FUND IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR BECAUSE WE COULD FUND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ANYWAY WITHOUT THE TURS.
IT IS JUST GUARANTEEING THAT YOU'LL DO THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHY IT'S TWO THINGS.
IT TAKES IT OUT OF THE TAX CALCULATION SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR TAX RATES LIKE WE DID WITH THE DATA CENTERS.
AND THEN, UM, THE DEBT DOESN'T, THE DEBT IT TAKES OUT DOESN'T IMPACT THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY, UH, TAXPAYERS.
AND IT ALSO GIVES AN OPTION THAT A DEVELOPER CAN PUT IN FRONTAGE ROAD AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE GETTING REIMBURSED THROUGH THE TURFS SO THEY CAN HAVE KIND OF A GUARANTEED PAYBACK THAT WAY THAT DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET.
SO IT'S JUST, AND ALL THAT WOULD BE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR, FOR THEM THAT WOULD BE DOCUMENTED IN, IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN.
THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT YOU NEED TO LET THEM KNOW IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE, WHICH THEN LEVERAGES YOUR DOLLARS.
BOB DAY IS NOT A BIG FAN OF THIS, BUT LIKE WE SAID BOB DAY, WHY DIDN'T HE WANT IT? HE JUST SAYS THE COUNTY'S NOT REALLY KEEN ON SUPPORTING ROAD PROJECTS.
AND SO WE GOTTA BE VERY SELECTIVE.
SO I TALKED, MET WITH THE JUDGE THIS MORNING, UH, YESTERDAY MORNING NOW.
AND LIKE, LOOK, WE'RE TRYING TO GET DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ANYBODY SELLING BONDS, WITHOUT ANYBODY ADJUSTING BUDGETS AND RAISING TAX RATES.
SO I, I SAID WE JUST WANT THE COUNTY TO BE INVOLVED AT SOME AT SOME POINT TO HELP WITH ALL THIS.
WE CAN'T GET OUR MONEY BACK FOR THE NOT THAT WE'RE PAYING.
I THINK THE DEVELOPER'S PAYING, BUT WE CAN'T REIMBURSE THE DESIGN OF THE WASTE BAR LINE LINE ALONG 1 32.
I'M SORRY, ALONG ONE 30, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
BUT ALL THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE WANNA FIX, UM, YOU CAN MOST SET AS A PROJECT AND, AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DESIGN THAT, YOU KNOW YEAH.
IF WE NEED TO FIX GLIMMER BECAUSE THE THIRD HIGH SCHOOL COMES IN, IN 15 YEARS, THAT DISTRICT MAY HAVE MONEY
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TO DO THAT TO WHERE THE DISTRICT WANNA PARTICIPATE OR THE CAN CAN THEY EVEN PARTICIPATE IN NO.THE FIRST DISTRICT? NO, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
LIKE IF THE COUNTY CAN PAY IN, CAN A, CAN A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR ARE THEY NOT PERMITTED? I DON'T THINK THEY CAN, THEY DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NO BENEFITS TO THE SCHOOLS THERE BASED ON THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
THERE'S, BUT THEY'RE GONNA YEAH, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT.
SO, WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN ANYWAY, BECAUSE THE 1 32 TURS, THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ISD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A STATUTORY RIGHT.
BUT YOU CAN INCLUDE THEIR PROPERTY IF YOU WANT TO, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE YOU MAY WANNA DO SIDEWALKS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BENEFIT THE SCHOOL.
WELL, AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS THE RANDOM CHANCE THAT THEY SELL THAT LAND IN THE FUTURE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT.
SO THEY SUFFER FROM APARTMENTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS? WELL, I MEAN, AFTER HEARING THE PROPOSAL, IF THERE'S EVEN AN INKLING OF A CHANCE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT 25% OR 50%, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU CREATE THIS DISTRICT EVERY SINGLE TIME IF THAT'S THE CASE.
BECAUSE EVERY EV YOU'RE GETTING DOLLARS FROM THEM FOR THESE PROJECTS.
AND IF YOU CAN GET THAT, EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU WOULD'VE SPENT IS NOW COSTING YOU 50 CENTS.
YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU CAN GET THE COUNTY, THEN I SAY THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.
HANDS DOWN IF YOU CAN'T GET THE COUNTY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WISDOM TO DOING IT BECAUSE WE COULD ARGUABLY, YOU KNOW, USE THE, THE TAX INCREMENT, UM, TO, TO GUARANTEE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS WHO SPEND THE MONEY HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET REIMBURSED OVER TIME.
AND YOU CAN STILL DO THAT WITH THE THREE 80 OR SOME OTHER AGREEMENT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T OTHER WAYS THAT THE TURS DOESN'T GET CREATED.
LIKE THE EPITOME, I WOULDN'T WANNA REIMBURSE THAT GUY 'CAUSE HE'S DOING A PIT AND BUILDING THAT ROAD ON HIS OWN.
HE'S GETTING THE MONEY FROM THE PIT.
WE APPRECIATE HIM DOING THAT AND THE TUR MONEY THAT HE'S GONNA ADD THE VALUE TO THE TURS WE USE TO BUILD THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE OTHER DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT SAME BOAT, THEY MIGHT BE LIKE, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GET REIMBURSED SLOWLY OVER TIME.
WE WANT TO HAVE A PIT SO WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR MONEY UP FRONT.
AND WE ISSUED PIT BOND, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
AND SO, BUT I TALKED TO THE PEARL STATE GUYS, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE.
IT, I TALKED TO STAR RANCH TO SUPPORTIVE IT.
LOGAN AT TEX MIX IS SUPPORTIVE.
I DIDN'T TALK TO ISD 'CAUSE IT WOULD COST EM ANYTHING.
AND IF I THINK YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE 75% OF PROPERTY OWNERS HAD TO BE, UH, ON BOARD IN ORDER TO CREATE THE DISTRICT.
AND SO, UH, WITH THE EPITOME, UH, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT TOO.
WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE YOU HAVE, WELL WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO YOU, I MEAN, BUT ALL THE SAME.
IT'S NOT 75% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
IT'S 75% I THINK WOULD BE BY AREA.
SO YOU GET A COUPLE OF BIG ONES.
AND, AND MY OTHER CAVEAT WAS THAT IF IT'S LIKE, IF IT'S LIKE A 50% DEAL OR NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
'CAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF OUR TOWN COVERED UP IN TURS AND THAT'S, WHILE IT DOES KEEP IT OFF OUR TAX RATE, IT ALSO IS A, IT'S, IT'S ALSO A PROBLEM FOR THE, FOR THE O AND M BUDGET.
THERE IS A TOP UP PART ON THE TOP LEFT THAT JAMES HAD BRING UP THAT HEY, POTENTIALLY JUST THE BLUE AREA, UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE, THEY, THEY MAY NEVER ANNEX INTO THE CITY.
AND SO YOU MAY HAVE PART OF A TOUR THAT'S IN THE ETJ THAT'S NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
UH, BUT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE DID THAT WITH THE, UH, UH, THE MEGA SITE TOUR.
AND IN THE AREA THAT'S BLUE IS IN THE ETJ, BUT DOES NOT HAVE A, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, IN PLACE THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO ANNEX.
SO WE SHOULD, IF WE DO A TURS, WE SHOULD DO IT FROM NORTHERN TO SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES, NO DOUBT.
BUT THEN THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY HERE, SO THAT, THAT BLUE RIGHT THERE SCHOOL, BUT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, AND THEN THIS IS EPITOME RIGHT IN HERE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST THIS PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE AGENDA FOR A MINUTE? YEP.
SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE COUNCIL, THE, THE, THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED TO CREATE A THIRD BOUNDARY ZONE THAT ENCOMPASSES ONE 30 WEST TO THE EDGE OF OUR ETJ AND DEVELOPED EAST, UH, TO THE EDGE OF OUR UNDEVELOPED AREA, AND THEN TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH
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OF OUR ETJ.I YOU DO NOT MEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S IN OUR ETJ.
YOU MEAN WITHIN A CERTAIN BOUNDARY DISTANCE TO ONE 30? THE, THE UN WELL, THE UNDEVELOPED YOU HIT DEVELOPED PRETTY QUICKLY WHEN YOU GO THE, THE LOT'S BOUNDING ONE 30 ORDERING ON ONE 30.
GENERALLY FOLLOWING THIS, THIS EXHIBIT, ADDING THE PROPERTIES AT THE SOUTH BUMPS TO SOUTH AND THE ISD LAND AND THE ISD BUS, BUS DEPOT.
WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR, OH, SORRY.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.
IS IS TO THINK THAT DET BOUNDARY IS WAY OVER HERE? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING OR OVER HERE DOING THAT? YEAH.
NO, JUST INCORPORATING THE STUFF THAT'S GONNA BE ALONG THE WHEEL.
I I'M GONNA GO WITH LIKE, BASICALLY THE MAP THAT YOU PROVIDED PLUS THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES.
HOW FAR SOUTH DOES IT GO? ALL THE WAY TO WHERE IT GOES DOWN THE KAZ LANE.
RIGHT? WE'LL, UH, CALL IT A PORTERFIELD.
WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE ADJOURN THAT MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THE, UH, WORK SESSION AT