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ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS SIX.[Special (EDC) Board Meeting on September 2, 2025.]
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. I HAVE ONE ASK FOR THIS EVENING IS I NEED TO BE OUT OF HERE. AND 90 MINUTES.MY WIFE JUST HAD SURGERY TODAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK HOME TO HER AND BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH HER AND MAKE SURE THAT HER NEEDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT BUDGET, BUT MY ONE ASK, SO WE GOTTA KEEP IT IN THAT TIME ALLOTMENT.
BEYOND THAT CALLED THE SPECIAL CALLED.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE B SPECIAL CALLED.
BOARD MEETING TO ORDER TODAY, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND AT 6 P.M..
ROLL CALL PLEASE PRESENT SECRETARY MORALES, PRESENT.
BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD HERE.
BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS. I DO HAVE QUORUM.
DO I WANT TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.
OKAY. HE'S GOTTA BE OUT OF HERE IN 90 MINUTES, SO. NO, I WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO ITEM FOUR ONE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FISCAL 20 YEAR OR FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET OF THE CORPORATION. THANK YOU.
CHAIR. SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE EDC BOARD AT THAT TIME APPROVED A BUDGET FOR FY 26 AND SUBMITTED THAT TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THEIR OVERALL CITY FY 26 BUDGET APPROVAL PROCESSES.
IN THAT PROCESS, COUNCIL HAD MADE SOME CUTS TO THE EDC BUDGET.
SO TONIGHT THOSE CUTS ARE HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SPREADSHEET WAS SENT OUT AHEAD OF TIME HIGHLIGHTING THE CUTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, THE DECREASES THAT HAD BEEN MADE, AND THEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR SEVERAL ITEMS AS WELL. SO UP TO YOU HOW YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED.
YOU KNOW, DO LINE BY LINE, YOU WANT TO DO JUST THE THINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED AS CUTS OR FOR CONSIDERATION.
WHAT WHATEVER AVENUE YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT IN.
WELL, I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO GO OVER EVERY SINGLE LINE. I LIKE LINE BY LINE.
OKAY. AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF HERE IN AN HOUR AND A HALF? YEAH, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK. OKAY, I GOT NOTES. OKAY, GREAT. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST LINE ON THAT SPREADSHEET IS THE LAS VEGAS ICSE BOARD REGISTRATION TRAVEL HOTEL.
THOSE ARE ZEROED OUT. SO THOSE WERE THOSE ARE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THINGS IN HERE JUST FOR CLARITY THAT WERE IN LAST OR THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET. SO THEY AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFER.
CORRECT. BUT WE HAD TO ZERO THEM OUT SO THAT IT CAN CALCULATE THE PERCENT CHANGE IN DOLLAR AMOUNT CHANGE, ETC., ETC..
OKAY. SO THE FIRST ACTUAL EXPENDITURE YOU'RE JUST WAY TOO FAR.
IS THE. IS ICY RED RIVER PRINTING, CORRECT? SO THAT'S $100. THAT HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT PREVIOUS YEARS.
TYPICALLY JUST FLIERS, FOLDERS, VARIOUS REPORTS THAT WE TAKE.
AND SO WE'RE SAYING IF WE KEEP THE IS ICE OH MY GOSH, ICY RED RIVER WE WOULD KEEP THE BOARD REGISTRATION THE TRAVEL AND THE PRINTING.
CORRECT. BUT THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM LET ME FIND IT.
THERE WAS ONE FOR A LINE 70 I CSC FOR BOARD MEMBERS.
AND YOU HAD A NOTE ABOUT THE RED RIVER.
SAID IF THE RED RIVER ATTENDANCE IS KEPT, THEN THE MEMBERSHIP PAYS FOR ITSELF.
SO WE WOULDN'T NEED THAT $400 LINE ITEM THEN.
NO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE $400 MEMBERSHIP IS EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THE DISCOUNTED REGISTRATION AMOUNT, SO IT OFFSETS.
SO WE EITHER PAY MORE IN REGISTRATION OR WE PAY THE MEMBERSHIP FEE.
BUT THE MEMBERSHIP FEE, AT LEAST IN YEARS PAST, HAS COVERED ITSELF AND THEN SOME.
SO IT'S SMARTER TO DO THE REGISTRATION WITH THE MEMBERSHIP PRICING BECAUSE IT IT NETS A BENEFIT. OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THE THE RED RIVER ONE.
IT'S CLOSE. YEAH. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
YES. SO REMEMBER THE MATERIALS THAT WE HAD TO SHARE WITH OUR POTENTIAL CLIENTS? YES. PROSPECTS. DO YOU THINK WE HAD ENOUGH? I EVERYBODY LOVES THE LITTLE HIPPOS.
THEY LOVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE POPULATION AND ALL THE BENEFITS OF ENGAGING WITH US.
YEAH. I FELT LIKE WE HAD ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING.
RED RIVER IS SMALLER, BUT THEY'RE STILL A GOOD AMOUNT OF RETAILERS PRESENT AND BROKERS, ETC.
EXCUSE ME, SIR. NEXT IS THE SELECT USA THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CUT.
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STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CUT IT BACK.WAIT. HOLD ON. LET US SAY THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS.
YEAH. I THINK THE STAY AT ZERO.
OH, YEAH. SORRY, THERE I AM. YEP.
GOOD. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THE ZERO.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT MY NOTES ARE, AND YOU ALL CAN FORGIVE ME, BUT IT SAYS THIS IS A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. IT SOUNDS LIKE GOVERNMENT CIRCLE JERK.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE.
WHAT WHAT THIS WHAT THIS EVENT IS.
I LOOKED IT UP. I'LL BE HONEST, IT JUST LOOKS POINTLESS TO ME.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT.
WELL, WE HAVEN'T ATTENDED PREVIOUSLY, SO TO BE PERFECTLY BLUE, IT'S NEW. YEAH, YEAH. GOT IT. I COULD NOT TELL YOU WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF IT. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT SEVERAL, IF NOT ALL OF THE OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY ATTEND, AND IT RESULTS IN US BEING ABLE TO HAVE SPIN OFF EVENTS, WHICH ARE LOCAL EVENTS.
IT HAS PROVEN, AT LEAST FOR THEM, TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO GO AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN SITE VISITS DIRECTLY FROM THAT RECRUITMENT ACTIVITY.
SO, WELL, EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOCUSING HERE'S HERE'S HOW I SEE US.
AND I WAS TELLING US BEFORE WE GO LIKE THIS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TAKE PROJECT MAESTRO, THEY'RE HERE, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON CONTRACTS AND WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S SIX MONTHS IN THE MAKING.
AND SO TO ME, IF WE CAN'T EVEN GET THE PEOPLE LANDED THAT ARE LOCAL, THAT'S THAT'S HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE TAKING COMPANIES IN FROM OTHER, OTHER PLACES? WE'VE HAD COMPANIES FROM KOREA THAT WANT TO COME IN HERE.
AND THIS WASN'T AN EDC, BUT THE CITY STARTS JERKING THEM AROUND TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A VARIANCE PROCESS FOR THEM TO PUT PHOSPHORUS IN THE WATER.
AND THE KOREANS, THESE GUYS COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.
AND IT TURNED OUT WE WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM TO THEN AFTER WE DEVELOP IT, WE WERE THEN GOING TO MAKE THEM GO BACK AND GET A VARIANCE TO THE PROGRAM.
AND FOR SIX MONTHS, THESE GUYS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO A VARIANCE TO A PROGRAM THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED. IT TURNED OUT IT DIDN'T EXIST. SO TO ME, ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS WE'RE DOING, IT DOESN'T HELP US BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A BAD REPUTATION OF, WE CAN GET YOU TO COME HERE, BUT WE CAN'T LAND YOU BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR ROADS.
THE SPINE ROAD WAS 18 MONTHS OR WHATEVER BEHIND SCHEDULE.
WE CAN'T GET THE ROADS BUILT ON TIME.
WE DON'T HAVE WATER CAPACITY READY.
WE DON'T HAVE WASTEWATER CAPACITY.
AND TO ME, WE OUGHT TO BE FOCUSED ON ONE THING WHICH OFFERED TO CUT OUT THE SALES TAX TRAINING WHEN YOU GO THROUGH SALES TAX TRAINING, THEY TELL YOU THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THING IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND IF WE JUST FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, I CAN GUARANTEE PEOPLE WILL BE LINED UP WHEN TO COME TO HUTTO. BUT THERE'S NO SENSE IN SPENDING MONEY TO GET PEOPLE TO LINE UP WHEN WE DON'T HAVE WATER READY. WE DON'T HAVE WASTEWATER READY, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE ANSWERING EMAILS.
WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ENGAGING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO MAKE EVERYTHING BE ZERO.
WHEN I TOLD THE CITY COUNCIL WAS AND THE STAFF THEN WAS, I THINK IT IT I'M TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS AND NOT BE CONCERNED WITH GOING TO THIS EVENT HERE, WHICH WE'VE NEVER GONE TO, AND OTHER EDC ARE GOING TO.
THAT'S GREAT. WE THE 13TH FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE NATION, AND WE'RE OUT TRYING TO LAND MORE BUSINESSES.
AND WE CAN'T EVEN LAND THE ONES WE GOT COMING IN. SO I KNOW IT'S ONLY 4000.
FOR ME, IT'S MORE PRINCIPLE. BUT YEAH, I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE SOME CAUTION ABOUT THE SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE WHAT WE HAVE, ETC. AND I UNDERSTAND THE MAESTRO SITUATION IS VERY SPECIFIC, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT IN FULL CONTEXT, HAPPY TO DO SO, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DELAYS WERE NOT ON THE PART OF THE CITY OR EDC.
ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN LET'S TAKE HAVE WE CLOSED? SO WE HAD LAND DEALS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO WHY DIDN'T THEY CLOSE DUE TO ENCORE DELAYS AND SPINE ROAD COMPLETION. OKAY. SO SPINE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS 100% IN THE HANDS OF THE EDC AND CITY STAFF.
RIGHT. IN TERMS OF STAFF, EDC DESIGNED IT, BORROWED THE MONEY FOR IT, PUT IT INTO CONSTRUCTION.
THAT WAS US, RIGHT? AND THERE'S MY POINT.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BASICS DONE.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER SPINE ROAD INSTANCE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED OUT THERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT THAT I GET YOUR SWEEPING THING WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, MAKING EVERYTHING ZERO. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO LOOK THROUGH THE LENS OF ARE WE COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES? BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN DEALS LOST EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE THE EDC IN ANOTHER CITY WAS MORE AGGRESSIVE EXCLUSIVELY AND NOT FOR ANY OTHER REASON.
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SO I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF THIS I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN EVENTS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING THE FUNDS ON AND SELECT USA. I'M NOT SURE IS ONE OF THEM.SO I WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT YOU KNOW.
I'M OKAY WITH NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON THAT ONE, BUT THERE ARE SOME WHERE I CERTAINLY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PRESENCE IN ORDER TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IF WE DESIRE TO BRING THESE GROUPS HERE. IF WE DON'T, THEN COOL.
BUT I THINK WE DO. SO THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL LENS I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON EACH OF THESE DECISIONS. IF I CAN JUST THROW IT OUT THERE NOW ON LINE FIVE.
AND I AGREE, THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T OFFER THE CUT RED RIVER.
WE DIDN'T OFFER TO CUT RETAIL LIVE LOCAL THINGS.
IT WAS MORE BASICALLY NEW THINGS WE HAD NEVER BEEN A PART OF.
THAT WAS THE THINGS WE REALLY PUSHED BACK ON. BUT I WOULD ALSO JUST OFFER THE THINGS THAT WERE KEPT AS FAR AS RECRUITMENT PERSPECTIVE, ARE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON RETAIL.
AND I WOULD JUST REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE CHARGE OF AN EDC IS ALSO INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY GET THAT ELEMENT IF WE ONLY FOCUS ON RETAIL. SO I THINK THAT THERE CAN BE A BALANCE, BUT ALSO OFFER THAT RECRUITMENT AS A PROCESS.
AND DEVELOPMENT DEALS CAN TAKE YEARS TO COME TO FRUITION.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS WISE OR EVEN FEASIBLE TO SAY, WELL, WE SPENT $4,000 ON THIS TRIP.
WHERE'S OUR RESULT? YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
SO I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY TAKES TO RECRUIT, ATTRACT, RECRUIT AND RETAIN, ETC.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALL CHARGES OF AN EDC AS WELL.
RIGHT. BUT THE 4000 IS A NEW EXPENDITURE, RIGHT.
OKAY. SO WE'RE CUTTING NEW EXPENDITURES WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WELL I'D BE CAREFUL CUTTING BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO DO DEALS.
BUT WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE IS WE DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES IN THE OFFICE. THEY'RE GONE EXTRAORDINARILY AMOUNT.
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I GET AN EMAIL.
CHENEY'S GONE AGAIN. I'M LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE COMP TIME AND WE HAVE COUNCILMAN UNTIL 2 A.M., AND WE HAVE THIS CONFERENCE AND THAT CONFERENCE AND THIS THING OVER HERE.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE.
IF YOU DON'T ANSWER YOUR PHONE IN REAL ESTATE, THAT ONE PHONE CALL YOU MISSED COULD HAVE BEEN THE DEAL YOU'RE WAITING FOR. BECAUSE YOU DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE, THEY CALL THE NEXT PERSON.
AND THE NEXT PERSON, AS CAITLIN SAID, IS GEARED UP AND READY TO GO.
AND THEY ANSWER AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU MISSED SOMETHING.
BUT WE CAN KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE 4000.
I MEAN, UNLESS SOMEONE'S GOT A GOOD REASON TO ADD IT.
SO I'LL ASK LEGAL DO THEY NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON EVERYTHING INDIVIDUALLY, OR CAN WE JUST GET CONSENSUS AND THEN AT THE END DO A OKAY.
THAT WOULD BE I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, I HOPE. IS IT THAT WE JUST VOTE TO DO WHAT THE COUNCIL ASKED THE EDC TO DO AND JUST ACCEPT THE BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED? WELL, I WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW I AM.
I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP YOU HELD BACK.
SO THEN WE HAVE THE SO I'M GUESSING CONSENSUS IT SOUNDS LIKE IS TO GO AHEAD AND CUT THE SELECT USA CONFERENCE TRADE SHOW.
YES. OKAY. ICSE RED RIVER BOARD REGISTRATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THE RETAIL LIVE. IT'S JUST ONE DAY, RIGHT? THAT'S IN TWO DAYS. THAT'S TOMORROW.
SO I THINK EVEN ICSC LAS VEGAS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE REASON I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT IT IN IS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IN THE PAST I CAN'T SPEAK FOR LAST YEAR. IN THE PAST, WE WE HAD PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP THE SECOND DAY, AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GO TALK TO THE RETAILERS.
TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND ASK THEM WHY ARE YOU NOT THINKING OF WHAT COULD DO DIFFERENTLY? WHAT ARE SOME THINGS OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO? AND INSTEAD, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE WE SPENT OUR TIME WORKING ON THINGS THAT I JUST WAS LIKE, THAT'S I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING IT. AND SO THEN WHEN WE CUT IT OUT, I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I TRIED FOR TWO YEARS AND I KNOW, I THINK LAST YEAR TALKING TO IRMA, IT WAS DONE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I THINK RETAIL RED RIVER IS IMPORTANT.
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THAT'S A LOT OF YOUR RETAILERS, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW AND THAT WE STRUGGLE TO ATTRACT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO HUTTO IS.AND THEN THE RETAIL LIVE, IF YOU WERE TO SEE IT TOMORROW, IT'D BE A MADHOUSE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO KNOW PEOPLE, UNDERSTAND WHO'S DOING WHAT.
WHICH DEVELOPER ARE YOU GOING? NO. YEAH. LUCKY. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF PRESENCE, IF ANYTHING. IS THAT WHAT CHANGE IS PRESENTING TOMORROW? NO, THAT'S A CHAMBER EVENT TOMORROW NIGHT.
TO THE TO THE RETAIL, THE AUSTIN, WHATEVER IT IS.
RETAIL LIFE. YEAH. SO I HOPE WE KEEP THAT IN THERE.
OKAY. THE BIO INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION.
THIS WAS A NEW ITEM. THE REASON THIS WAS ADDED WAS BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN AN UPTICK IN INTEREST FROM PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING, IN PARTICULAR, OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND THEN ALSO TO HELP DIVERSIFY THE TYPES OF INDUSTRY THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON AND WANT TO ATTRACT, SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO ALL THE ECONOMIES THAT ARE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE VARIOUS MARKET CHANGES OVER TIME AND NOT PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN THE DATA CENTER, SEMICONDUCTOR BASKETS MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE REASON I RECOMMEND TO CUT THIS AT THE CITY COUNCIL IS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A PHARMACEUTICAL USE. LOOKING AT HUTO AND PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING TAKES AN EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER.
AND DUE TO THAT WE KIND OF STOPPED PURSUING THEM AND THEIR PERSON WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE DUE TO AN ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT JONAH COULD PROVIDE WATER.
AND SO I DON'T SEE HOW TO IN A POSITION TO SUPPLY A BUNCH OF WATER FOR MANUFACTURING.
SO I DIDN'T SEE A REASON TO GO AFTER SOMETHING THAT ONCE WE GOT THEM INTERESTED, WE WOULD THEN TELL THEM WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR WHAT THEY NEED. WELL, I THINK YOU'RE SPEAKING OF ACTUAL PHARMACEUTICAL, LIKE DRUG, RIGHT? SO THERE'S OTHER COMPONENTS OF BIOSCIENCE THAT MAY NOT BE AS WATER INTENSIVE AS WELL. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED IN WHAT WE CLASSIFY AS BIOSCIENCE.
SO THERE'S EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURING THAT WOULD STILL ALIGN WITH THAT.
THERE'S LASER MANUFACTURING I'VE SEEN COME THROUGH.
SO I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE DIVERSE AVENUES THAN JUST ACTUAL PHARMACEUTICAL DRUG MANUFACTURING THAT, YES, THE DATE REQUIRES.
THOSE ARE CONSIDERED BIO INDUSTRY USES.
WHAT ABOUT PHARMACEUTICALS THAT ARE JUST PACKAGING? IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE THE CHEMISTRY GOES FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S PORTED HERE, AND THEN IT'S PUT IN DISPENSERS OR PACKAGING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THAT CONSIDERED? SO THAT WAS PART OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS LOOKING HERE, IS THAT THEY WERE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO MANUFACTURE THE DRUG COMPONENT, BUT THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS WOULD COME HERE AND THEN BE ALL ASSEMBLED EFFECTIVELY AND THEN PACKAGED. AND THERE WAS A POTENTIAL FOR A LOGISTICS WAREHOUSING COMPONENT ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL MANUFACTURING AS WELL.
I SORT OF THINK THAT IF IT IF IT ALIGNS WITH ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IN ANY WAY, INCLUDING WHICH WOULD INCLUDE BIO INDUSTRY, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ONLY BECAUSE OF THE CORRIDOR WE ARE ON.
THE WILCO EDP REPEATEDLY CALLS IT THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING CORRIDOR.
I HEAR NOTHING BUT THAT ABOUT THE 79 CORRIDOR JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO SPEND OUR MONEY ON RETAIL STUFF LIKE ICSC BECAUSE, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS COMING UP, THOSE DEVELOPERS ALREADY HAVE THE CONNECTIONS THEY NEED TO GET RETAILERS HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE SPENDING AS MUCH TO ATTRACT THEM HERE.
AND I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF CONNECTIONS. BUT MANY OF THESE MANUFACTURERS ARE COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. AND SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET INTO A ROOM WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS, IT MAY TAKE GOING TO ONE OF THESE.
EVENTS TO DO SO I MEAN, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE.
I'M GOING TO CONSTANTLY PROBABLY ASK ABOUT ROI, BUT AN INDUSTRY LIKE THIS, WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S THE TAX REVENUE OFF OF THAT? IS IT, IS IT IS IT SIGNIFICANT OR IS IT DEPEND ON WHAT THEY DO OR.
YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY GO AND WHAT THEY DO.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE THE MORE EXPENSIVE THEIR MACHINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE HIGHER THE BPP FOR PROPERTY TAX IS THE BIGGER FACILITY THEY HAVE TO BUILD, THE MORE INVESTMENT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY TAX VALUE.
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AND THEN IF THEY ARE DISTRIBUTING OR MAKING ANY SORT OF SALES, AND THERE COULD BE A SALES TAX COMPONENT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING INSIDE THAT FACILITY.
SO DO WE HAVE A MAP OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES? WE HAVE A LIST OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED INDUSTRIES, AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IS ON THAT LIST.
SO YOU GUYS GO TO ICSC LAST YEAR AND YOU MET WITH ALL THEM PEOPLE.
HOW MANY OF THOSE COMPANIES ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT LOCATING IN OUR CITY? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY. 80%.
YOU HAVE TO ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW LOOK AT THE RETAILERS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR CITY LIKE ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP.
RIGHT. SORRY. SO INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING OR ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
SO EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS INTERESTED WHEN YOU GO NO IS NOT AN ANSWER.
MOST PEOPLE HERE IN REAL ESTATE IT'S ALWAYS LIKE, YEAH, YEAH, LET ME LET ME LOOK AT IT.
LET ME GET BACK. HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU TALK TO ARE ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW.
NOT INTERESTED. WORKING SOMETHING A YEAR LATER WORKING SOMETHING IN OUR CITY.
GOT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHO EVERYBODY TALK TO.
ACTIVE. WELL, I KNOW THE ACTIVE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW AND NONE OF THEM RIGHT CAME FROM THERE.
I MEAN, THERE'D BE A PROJECT, RIGHT? NOT HARVEST. NOT I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS ALSO DEVELOPERS THERE LIKE NEWQUEST WAS THERE.
SO YOU HAVE A NEW QUESTION ALREADY HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TENANTS. AND SO IF WE'RE TALKING TO A TENANT, WE SAY, HEY, THAT'D BE GREAT.
NEWQUEST IS HERE, THEY HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
OR LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU COULD GO.
AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND HOLD THAT ACTUAL INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE STILL VALID. SO SECRETARY MORALES, ARE YOU PROPOSING TO CUT THE RETAIL AND REALLOCATE TO INDUSTRIAL RECRUITMENT OR.
TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AROUND THAT OR.
THE CONVERSATION PIECE I WOULD PROPOSE IS JUST DO WE WANT STREET SIGNS FOR OUT THERE BECAUSE THE EDC IS A STREET IS STREET SIGNS, RIGHT.
WE GO PLACES TO REPRESENT THE FACT THAT HUTTO'S HERE.
WE'RE HERE TO INFORM AND EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHERE HUTTO IS.
MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT TAYLOR.
MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT ROUND ROCK, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE SOMETIMES FORGET THAT HUTTO IS IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
SO IT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S UNNECESSARY, BUT I THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO ALLOCATE FUNDS TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT WE WANT TO COME HERE. SO WHAT DO WE WANT IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUR MONEY.
AND BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL FIND US.
I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN STILL FIND US WITHOUT IT.
OF COURSE. CERTAINLY. AND DEVELOPERS ARE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE, TOO. BUT WHAT DO WE WANT IN JUDO AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO ATTRACT? THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR MONEY. AND IT DOES ACTUALLY WORK.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT RIGHT AWAY, IT MAKES SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF US AND WHERE WE ARE. SO. I AGREE, IT WORKS.
YOU JUST WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF ABILITY RIGHT NOW OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ABILITY OR THAT WHEN THEY DO COME HERE, THAT'S THE MOST FRUSTRATING PART.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE A KOREAN BANK THAT DIDN'T LOCATE OVER HERE, BUT THEY LOCATE IN CEDAR PARK.
BUT ALL THE BUSINESS FOR THE KOREANS ARE ALL ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND WHEN YOU START TALKING TO THEM, MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED WITH HUTTO AND TAYLOR IN TERMS OF THE MANUFACTURING THAT THEY NEED TO BRING TO SUPPORT SAMSUNG, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH US FOR NOW. TWO YEARS AND TAYLOR'S NOT MUCH BETTER.
SO AT SOME POINT, I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS.
BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ATTRACTING PEOPLE WHEN I MEAN PHYSICALLY, WE'RE JUST UNABLE TO CLOSE DEALS.
WE DO STILL HAVE LAND AVAILABLE.
AND IN ORDER FOR THIS CORPORATION TO BE ABLE TO REINVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITY AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO. LAND SALES SHOULD, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD BE TOP PRIORITY.
SO THAT AND PART OF THAT IS RECRUITING INDUSTRY THAT WANTS TO BUY THAT LAND AND BUILD ON IT. SO THEN I WOULD SAY ADVANCED MANUFACTURING OR MANUFACTURING ADJACENT.
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PLACES ARE WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE COUNTRIES WHERE THOSE ARE THE CULTURES THAT WISH TO BUY RATHER THAN LEASE.RETAILERS DON'T TYPICALLY CARE TO BUY UNLESS THEY'RE A COFFEE SHOP.
GETTING A RETAIL PAD OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT MANUFACTURING GROUPS A LOT OF TIMES PREFER TO BUY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
THEN THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD PUT A LITTLE MONEY. HOW MANY DEALS? YOU NEVER KNOW. WELL I'M TRYING I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO GET OUT OF HERE QUICKER.
WE KEEP EXTENDING OUR LAND DEALS.
IT'S BEEN UNDER CONTRACT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN STUFF.
IT GOES BACK TO THE SPINE ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
SO WE'RE. CAN WE JUST GET THE GUYS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP? YOU WANT LAND DEALS CLOSED? LET'S JUST GET THE ONES WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT CLOSE.
BUT WE CAN'T. WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S LIKE BEFORE WE FINISH A DEAL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE DEALS AND LET'S GET MORE DEALS BECAUSE WE NEED LAND SALES TO FUND THE COMPANY.
AND IT'S LIKE, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN GET THE ONES WE HAVE SIGNED UP DONE.
WELL FROM LIKE A MARKETING AND SALES PERSPECTIVE, IT'S YOUR PIPELINE. LIKE YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE THREE DEALS THAT WE HAVE AND THEN SIT THERE AND BE LIKE, ALRIGHT, WELL, I GUESS NOW WE'LL GO GET SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE ALSO WASTING TIME.
SO I THINK TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A BALANCE TO BE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO BETTER DEFINE OUR, OUR EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'RE SETTING OUT THERE TO THESE GROUPS LIKE YOU CAN COME BUT I WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS FOR ANOTHER FEW YEARS. ARE YOU GOING TO COME IN A FEW YEARS OR ARE YOU COMING NEXT YEAR? BECAUSE THEN WE CAN JUST STOP TALKING NOW. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT EXPECTATIONS WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE BEFORE WE TALK TO THESE GROUPS. BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING TO SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO IS THERE ANY HEARTBURN OVER SAYING NO TO EITHER OR AND RETAIL LIVE AND ICSC RED RIVER AND SWAPPING THAT COST FOR SOMETHING ELSE, WHETHER THAT BE THE BIO WE SELECT USA OR THE KOREA TRIP.
YEAH, THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY INDUSTRIAL RECRUITMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE BUDGET.
WE'VE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS AND HENRY KOREA COMPANIES HAVE WE LOCATED NOW YOUR NOTES SAY LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR. BUT I WOULD ARGUE TWO YEARS AGO WE WENT TO KOREA TO ON THE EDC. SO I WOULD SAY LAST YEAR WAS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE GONE TO.
CORRECT. BUT IF YOU'LL RECALL, THAT STAFF MEMBER LEFT THE WEEK AFTER HE GOT BACK. DOES IT MATTER YOUR NOTES? YOUR NOTES SAY LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE WENT TO KOREA, AND I'M SAYING WE WENT THERE TWO YEARS AGO.
WHETHER OR NOT THE EMPLOYEE LEFT AFTERWARDS DOESN'T MEAN WE GET TO START OVER THE TIMER.
SO WE GOT NOTHING OUT OF THAT YEAR.
AND I UNDERSTAND THINGS I UNDERSTAND MORE THAN ANYBODY.
ALONG WITH CAITLIN AND PROBABLY EVEN DON.
THINGS TAKE TIME. YOU JUST DON'T DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO GO MOVE AND DO SOMETHING.
I GUESS WHAT, I JUST AGREED TO A BOARD.
OVERALL, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR? BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BOGGED DOWN ON, I THINK, ON THESE DIFFERENT LITTLE DO YOU THINK WE JUST NEED A BREAK? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? KIND OF CATCH UP ON WHERE WE'RE AT, I THINK.
YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR, IS. YEAH.
BUT DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S NOT THE THING THAT GETS LIVE UP TO CLOSE.
RIGHT? IT'S THE SPINE ROAD AND ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM THAT'S NOT ON SCHEDULE.
AND ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON, RIGHT. WATER, WASTEWATER, JUST THE WASTEWATER I BELIEVE THAT'S PLANNED FOR OCTOBER.
SO THEY'RE PLANNING THEIR CLOSING FOR NOVEMBER. SO YEAH, FOR ME, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE THING I SAID AT THE COUNCIL WAS I'D LIKE TO SEE A YEAR OF COMPLETE FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PEOPLE ARE HOWLING.
WE WE NAME A BUSINESS COMING IN.
THEY'RE ALL UPSET. THEY DON'T CARE.
THE ONLY THING THEY WANT IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, OTHER THAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAND WILL RAT ON THE LAND PIECES BECAUSE I'M. I'M GETTING CONFUSED ON THE ONES THAT ARE EXTENDING, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO DROP, THE ONES THAT ARE THREATENING TO DROP, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO CLOSE IN A MONTH.
I MEAN, TO ME, THE PEOPLE NEED SERVICES HERE THAT LIVE HERE.
JOB GROWTH IS GOING TO BE COMING WITH ONCE WE GET TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE DETENTION AND WATER AND WASTEWATER AND BUSINESSES CAN LOCATE.
I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THERE'S 600,000FT² OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE BUILT READY TO GO WHEN PEOPLE ARE READY TO COME.
I GUESS WE PROBABLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT WE WANT TO DO AS A BOARD AND THEN THEN BUDGET TOWARDS THAT GOAL. BUT HOW MUCH CONTROL DO WE HAVE OVER THE AVAILABILITY OF,
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SAY, WASTEWATER? DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE GROUPS AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOUR FORECASTS? WHAT CAN WE ANTICIPATE WHEN WE'RE INVITING THESE COMPANIES TO MOVE INTO HUDDLE? I MEAN, DO WE SAY WE'RE AT 100% CONTROL AS AN AGENCY? WE HAVE ZERO LIMITED. WELL SAID.WE'RE ALL WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP HERE. SO I MEAN I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. YEAH. I MEAN, WE'RE BEHIND ON STUFF NOW. IF IT'S SUCH AN ISSUE, WHAT PART OF IT CAN WE INFLUENCE? HEY, WE NEED THE WATER.
WE NEED IT. YOU KNOW, WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
WHAT ARE THE TIME? CAN WE DO THAT? WELL, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SECURING A LARGE WATER USER AT THE RIGHT TIME IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING BILLED FOR THE WATER THAT'S COMING, WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT.
WHO'S HAD THAT DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE YOU HAVE, BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, I HOPE THIS GROWTH IS RIGHT, BECAUSE WE JUST UPPED EVERYBODY'S WATER BILLS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT LARGE WATER USER. DO YOU REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT.
NOT NO NOT IN LARGE WASTEWATER USER.
NO. IN FACT, ALL OF OUR DEBATES ON COUNCIL TO WHERE WE'RE AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS IS WHEN SOMEONE WANTS STAFF WANTS TO RECOMMEND BRINGING IN SOMEONE IN OUR WATER, CCN AND WE'RE VOTING AGAINST IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER.
I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO, FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, IS WE DEBATE AND DEBATE AND DEBATE ABOUT NOT GIVING WATERWAY AND THEN THEIR STAFF MEMBERS WHO THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR LARGE WATER USERS WHEN IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE, IT'S WE DON'T HAVE WATER.
OKAY. SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WE PICK ONE BECAUSE 2026 IS GOING TO BE A RECOVERY YEAR FOR MANY INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING MY OWN. BECAUSE NOW THE FLOODGATES ARE STARTING TO OPEN WITH MANUFACTURING USERS COMING TO THE AREA, THE ACTIVITY HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN THERE.
SAMSUNG IS GOING TO BE FULLY OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF 2026.
2027 IS SUPPOSED TO ABSOLUTELY BLOW EVERYONE'S MIND ACCORDING TO EVERY SINGLE ECONOMIST, EVERY SINGLE ANALYST THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO.
2027 IS GOING TO BE HUMONGOUS YEAR FOR COMPANIES COMING TO THIS AREA.
THAT'S WHAT EVERY RESEARCH REPORT I HAVE COME UP WITH IS SAYING.
SO I THINK THAT OKAY, LET'S PICK MAYBE ONE NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE REALLY AND MAYBE THAT'LL GIVE US SOME TIME TO CATCH UP TO MIKE'S POINT ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. BUT ABSOLUTELY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MONEY ON BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.
YOU REALLY HAVE TO. AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ANOTHER WAY.
OTHER THAN GOING TO SOME OF THESE EVENTS.
IT'S IT SEEMS REALLY FRUSTRATING, BUT AND IT IS I SPEND MONEY ON STUFF THAT I DON'T WANT TO EVERY MONTH, BUT IT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE. I THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO THINK OF YOU FIRST.
I THINK MORE LOCAL STUFF, I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. MORE LOCAL STUFF. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR KOREA.
I DON'T I'M OKAY. IF WE SWAPPED OUT THE THE ICSC, BUT WE STILL WE DO STILL NEED RETAIL.
BUT I SEE YOUR POINT ABOUT THE BIO WHATEVER THAT'S CALLED RETAIL, BIO PHARMA AND KOREA. AND YOU'RE SAYING PICK ONE.
WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PICK? I THINK.
THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION, I THINK.
I'LL SECOND THAT. I DON'T MIND GIVING GIVEN ON SOME.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE ARGUMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT WE GOTTA KEEP THINGS GOING. ANYBODY WHO DOES SITE SELECTION KNOWS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PIPELINE.
AND THESE EVENTS ARE HOW WE PUT THINGS INTO IT.
SO BUT THIS SO THE LINE ITEM IS THE $759.
AND THE RETAIL LIVE IS THE 452.
SO IF WE'RE CUTTING $4,000 FROM SOME SELECT USA AND $4,500 FOR BIO, CAN WE JUST HAVE BOTH RETAIL LIVE AND ARMA TWO? THAT WAY WE'RE COVERING TWO INDUSTRIES WITH MINIMAL COST, NOT COVERING EVERYTHING. BUT SO THEN, ARE WE CUTTING THE ICY RED RIVER? SOUNDS LIKE IT. OKAY. SO THEN WE ALSO WOULD NOT NEED THE ICC
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MEMBERSHIP THEN EITHER.SO SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP TO GO TO RETAIL LIFE ICC EVENT? I THINK IT IS IS IT NOT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT I THINK IT IS.
WELL, IF YOU BUT IT'S NOT THAT MUCH IF YOU'RE A NON MEMBER.
YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY WE'D HAVE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD OFFSET.
I CAN SIGN US UP FOR IT BY THE GOVERNMENT RATE.
WE CAN CARRY THAT OUT THEN AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH I GUESS, YEAH, WE WOULD STILL HAVE PRINTING NEEDS FOR WE WOULD JUST BASICALLY REPURPOSE THAT FOR THE RETAIL.
BELIEVE THE PRINTING SELECT USA IS ZEROED OUT.
ICSC RED RIVER BOARD REGISTRATION FOR 1300 IS ZEROED OUT.
ICSE RED RIVER BOARD TRAVEL FOR 890 IS ZEROED OUT.
RETAIL LIVE FOR FOUR 5250 IS KEPT.
BIO INTERNATIONAL FOR 4587 IS ZEROED OUT.
ARMA STATE OF MANUFACTURING AND EXPO IS KEPT FOR 759.
AND JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WHEN YOU SAY ZERO OUT, IT'S ALREADY GOT ZEROED OUT BY THE COUNCIL.
CORRECT? I'M JUST SAYING FROM THE PROPOSED. YES.
FROM THE EDC STANDPOINT REMAINS ZEROED OUT.
IS THAT BETTER? FROM THE EDC PERSPECTIVE? ZERO. SO THEN I SHOW THE NEXT LINE ITEM IS THE EDC ECONOMIC EXCELLENCE AWARD.
NOW WE'RE INTO SPECIAL EVENTS AND AWARDS SECTION.
YES. WHAT'S THE SORE SPOT? SO. CORRECT. SO THAT WAS NOT PROPOSED TO BE CUT.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT IT BE CUT PENDING THE TDC MEMBERSHIP AND SALES TAX TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S A SCORE SHEET.
AND SO IT IS LARGELY BASED ON EDC MEMBERSHIPS WITH TDC AS WELL AS TRAININGS, ETC.. SO IF THIS BOARD DOES NOT SEE VALUE IN THE TDC MEMBERSHIP, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO POINT IN APPLYING FOR THE AWARD BECAUSE WE WON'T GET IT.
SO THERE'S IT'S 100 POINT MINIMUM.
WERE YOU ON THERE LAST YEAR DON.
FOR THE THE THE SALES TAX TRAINING? I WAS AT ONE POINT IN TIME OR ANOTHER.
BUT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT MY BACKGROUND IN SALES TAX FAR EXCEEDS WHAT TDC IS GOING TO DO.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. OH, YEAH. DAN, WERE YOU AT THAT MEETING, THAT TRAINING, THE ONE WHERE THEY WERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS? YEAH, WE WALKED OUT EARLY.
WELL, I DIDN'T WALK OUT EARLY, BUT ME, PETER AND SOMEONE ELSE.
IT LITERALLY IT THE SALES TAX.
IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. IT IS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GO TO THE IN PERSON TRAINING LIKE THE REGIONAL TRAINING, BECAUSE I WENT TO THAT ONE TWO YEARS AGO, WE LITERALLY IN PERSON TRAINING TWICE.
YEAH, WE WE LEFT THAT TRAINING EARLY BECAUSE IT GOT TO BE MORE AND MORE OF A POLITICAL THING THAN IT WAS. THE SALES TAX TRAINING PROBABLY TOOK 30 MINUTES AND THEN IT GOT INTO POLITICS, NATIONAL AND WHAT THE STATE'S DOING TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND YOU GUYS MAY NOT KNOW PETER REAL WELL FOR PETER TO WALK OUT OF THERE EARLY, I THINK SENT A STATEMENT.
ME, I JUST GOT FED UP WAS LIKE, I'M GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE AND SAYING SOMETHING I SHOULDN'T SAY. AND THEN HE LEFT AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? BUT WE STILL NEED CHENEY.
SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAILY ADMINISTRATION.
YOU'RE BOTH THOSE PEOPLE. SO SHE STILL NEEDS TRAINING. WE JUST DID IT LAST YEAR, THOUGH. SHE DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR. I DID IT TWO YEARS AGO AND SHE SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CITY SIDE NEEDS TO HAVE PEOPLE, BUT IT SPECIFIES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THE PERSON WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAILY ADMINISTRATION OF THE EDC, WHICH IS STILL RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND THE LAW CERTIFIED TRAINING.
THAT GUY DIDN'T COME LAST YEAR. THAT GUY CAME TWO YEARS AGO. NO, THAT GUY CAME LAST YEAR.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME. THAT'S NOT THE SAME. CERTIFIED, RIGHT? WHAT WAS THAT WE DID THAT WAS JUST A FOR YOUR EDIFICATION LIKE INFORMED.
THANK YOU. YEAH. SO FOR THE FOR THE ONE THAT'S STATE REQUIRED.
IT IS. WELL YOU CAN DO ONLINE.
IT'S TERRIBLE. YEAH. BUT IN PERSON IT IS A 6 TO 8 HOUR ALL DAY.
SO THAT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THEN. THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT.
YEAH. I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR TIME I DON'T AWARDS I'M NOT A I'M NOT A FAN OF PAYING $125 FOR AN AWARD.
I DON'T SEE A POINT OF THAT, BUT.
YEAH, BUT YOU CAN ALSO MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT LIKE PD DOESN'T NEED TO BE ACCREDITED OR, YOU KNOW, ST3 DOESN'T NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, CERTIFIED, YOU KNOW, OR ANY OTHER NUMBER OF THINGS.
I THINK THOSE ARE DIFFERENT. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S AN ACCREDITATION NOT A EXCELLENCE.
WHAT THESE ARE. WELL IT KIND LIKE I I'M I'M NOT.
YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE SIMILAR ISH. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IT IS THE EFFECT OF STANDARD.
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WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE EDC STUFF, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT. BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT IS THE STANDARD OUT THERE WITH RESPECT TO EDC $125. I'M NOT GOING TO FRET ABOUT IT.IT'S SILLY TO ME, BUT SO I WOULD ZERO IT OUT JUST BECAUSE IF THE IF THE BOARD IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THE SALES TAX TRAINING AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE MEMBERSHIPS, WE CAN'T QUALIFY FOR IT, QUALIFY FOR IT ANYWAY.
SO THERE'S THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO BE ARGUING ABOUT.
I DON'T FEEL SO THEN KOREA TRIP WAS ZEROED OUT.
I LEFT THAT ZEROED OUT AS WELL FROM STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROI IS.
WE HAVE PLANNED FOLLOW UPS LATER THIS MONTH AND IN OCTOBER.
SO IF THIS BOARD FEELS DIFFERENTLY, THE EDP GOES FOUR TIMES A YEAR RIGHT NOW.
SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD DOES SEE VALUE IN, THEN THAT CAN BE REVISITED AT A FUTURE DATE.
SO THAT WAS MY JUST HAVE A FEW EXTRA LUNCHES WITH DAVE PORTER WILL BE FINE.
WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT. SO STAFF IS PROPOSING TO ZERO THIS OUT, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR IF PEOPLE.
WELL, AND THIS IS PREVIOUS BOARD, AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS DIFFICULT TO.
BECAUSE IN ESSENCE OF TIME, I'M THE SAME WAY.
I'M TELLING YOU, MY EXPERIENCE IS THE WILCO EDP WAS STARTED BY GRAVEL IN AN EFFORT TO COMPETE AGAINST EVENT THE WILLOW GROVE SUMMIT.
NATHANIEL THE BABE PUTS ON WEIGHT.
YOU ZEROED IT OUT. SO I'M GOOD. WE GOOD? WELL, I WOULD SAY THE SAME. I WOULD SAY ALMOST THE SAME THING THEN.
I MEAN, IT'S IT'S I'M JUMPING AHEAD.
YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
BUT IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING WHEN YOU GO TO THOSE EVENTS.
DON YOU'VE BEEN TO EVERY YEAR FOR TEN YEARS OR FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS THEY'VE BEEN HAVING IT. IT IS THERE YOU GO.
ALL RIGHT. I TEND TO AGREE IT'S MORE YOU GO BECAUSE THEY EXPECT TO GET A MEAL AND LOOK AT SOME SLIDES, AND THEN YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE SLIDES, WHICH I TWO YEARS AGO WOULD HAVE KIND OF TELL US.
I WILL GET THE SLIDES FOR YOU.
YEAH. WHAT WHAT DID WHAT DID COUNTY TELL US TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THE COMMISSIONER WAS UP THERE. HE SAID WE DO NOT HAVE A WATER ISSUE.
AND WE'RE ALL SITTING THERE GOING, THAT WAS IS THIS DUDE HERE FROM HE REPRESENTS US IN HIS DISTRICT OUT HERE.
I'LL TELL YOU THIS. HERE'S MY HERE'S MY HOPE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE EDC.
IS THAT A LOT OF THESE THINGS TO GET IT.
IT'S DIFFERENT TAKING SOME AWAY.
EVERYBODY'S DOING IT, BUT EVERYBODY'S DOING IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO IT. AND THERE'S SOME OF THESE THINGS.
I THINK IF WE REIMAGINE THIS STUFF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER PEOPLE. I TELL THE CITY MANAGER ALL THE TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SCRATCHING THEIR HEAD AND GOING, WAIT A MINUTE, HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS GETTING ALL THIS STUFF DONE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING DIFFERENTLY? BECAUSE GEORGETOWN IS COMPLAINING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT FIREFIGHTERS IF IF THE STATE PASSES A LAW. MEANWHILE, THE CITY COUNCIL'S LIKE, EVERYBODY'S GETTING A 2.5% WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? ALBERTA, A A MERIT RAISE.
AND WE WERE DEBATING MERIT OR COLA, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING POLICE, AND OUR POLICE ARE NOW IN THE TOP PAID.
AND I'M LIKE, EVERYBODY'S STRUGGLING BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS OUT HERE, NOT ON CORE. AND I THINK IF WE WORK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GOING LIKE, I WANT TO GO TO HUTTO BECAUSE IT'S CHENEY. AND I TALKED.
IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED, SOME OF THE CHANGES TO THE UDC WILL BE THE MOST PRIMED BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO WALK IN AND GO, WE CAN PERMIT YOU IN 90 DAYS, OR YOU CAN SPEND 18 MONTHS IN ANOTHER CITY AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO. I'LL TAKE A GUESS.
WHO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THAT? HE'LL GROW OUT OF IT.
SO WE DON'T JUST FOR AWARENESS.
WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH OUR TIME AND ONE THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH THE LINE. LET'S GO. IT'S GOING TO GO QUICK. SO THE WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT BORDER STATION FOR 450 HAS BEEN ZEROED OUT.
BOARD CONSENSUS AND AGREEMENT, QUARTERLY EDITOR EVENTS.
THIS IS PART OF OUR BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION.
IT'S PRIMARILY FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.
IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED THUS FAR.
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD THEM REGULARLY.
IT WAS A $3,000 EXPENSE FOR THE YEAR, THE GOLD NOSE FOR IT.
SO PFLUGERVILLE IS HAVING A WOMEN'S ENTREPRENEURIAL COUPLE OF WEEKS EVENTS THAT ARE FREE. YES, THESE ARE FREE, BUT SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S PAYING FOR THEM. OKAY, SO HERE'S MY TAKE ON THESE BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED ON THIS.
I'M GOING TO ASK WHO DID YOU SURVEY? SO WE DO TAKE FEEDBACK WHILE WE'RE THERE. USUALLY THERE'S STAFF THERE AND WE ENGAGE IN THE NETWORKING. SO WE TAKE FEEDBACK THERE. AND THEN WE DO SEND OUT A SURVEY AFTERWARDS.
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AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SURVEY RESPONSES PERCENTAGE WISE ARE NOT SPECTACULAR.BUT THE RESPONSES THAT WE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ATTEND, WHAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE THEY FROM? THEY'RE TYPICALLY BUSINESSES.
SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN, SOME OF THEM ARE HOME BASED MAKERS THAT ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN AMPLIFY THEIR BUSINESS, MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT GETTING INTO A BRICK AND MORTAR. I KNOW WE'VE HAD MEG HAS BEEN THERE FROM WINE BAR.
THE BLUEBONNET FREEZE PLACE DOWN AT THE HEB HASN'T BEEN IN ATTENDANCE.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T AGAIN, ROI. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS WORTH IT, BECAUSE I SEE AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A LOT OF I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MEETING IS.
WHICH ONE? THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
PLANNING AND ZONING. IT'S DOWNSTAIRS IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
OKAY. YEP. IT STARTS AT SEVEN.
BE THERE. SO IT'S LIKE THEY'RE STILL HERE.
ANYWAY, WHEN I SEE THE PEOPLE ATTENDING, IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME.
MORE OR LESS PEOPLE, THE SAME CORE PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OUTREACH WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS, TO BE HONEST.
I'M, I'M GOING TO LEAN ON THE CHOP IT FOR NOW AND THEN LET'S MAYBE THIS TO ME IS A GOOD THING, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, IN MY OPINION.
IT NEEDS TO BE HONED IN AND MAYBE KIND OF REEVALUATED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT KEPT, BUT I THINK MAYBE RIGHT NOW MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO WAIT ON IT AND NOT SPEND THE MONEY.
HERE'S WHAT I TRIED TO PUT SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT IT TO.
I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO ENGAGE OUR CURRENT RESIDENT BUSINESS RESIDENTS AND SHARE WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENGAGED WITH YOU.
WE WANT TO HELP YOU. THESE ARE SOME PROFESSIONALS WITH GREAT IDEAS THAT YOU MIGHT GLEAN FROM INSTEAD OF LEAVING THEM ISOLATED.
THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION OF HAVING THOSE SORTS OF YEAH, A LOT OF THE TIMES, THOUGH, THESE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE WORKING BECAUSE THEY WORK 120 HOURS A WEEK.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT INTERNALLY ABOUT RECORDING THOSE SO THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS THAT CAN'T ATTEND OR TO REFER BACK TO LATER, SHOULD THEY FORGET? SO I THINK IN MY OPINION, WHICH MAY NOT BE VALID, BUT YOU GET A LOT OF THE SAME PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S THE IT'S IT'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF BUSINESS THAT ALLOWS THEM TO NOT WORK 120 HOURS A WEEK.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT THERE'S REPEAT PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC EVERY TIME. SO IT DOES.
IT'S A SEQUENCE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YEAH, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FROM THOSE PEOPLE THOUGH? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S JUST IT BECOMES AN ECHO CHAMBER AT SOME POINT. HERE'S MY MY ISSUE.
WE HAVE A WEAK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THE CHAMBER STRUGGLES TO DO THE CHAMBER JOB.
NOW PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, YEAH, BUT THESE AREN'T FOR THESE ARE THE CHAMBER DOES MEMBER EVENTS AND THESE ARE NON MEMBER EVENTS.
THE PROBLEM IS THE CHAMBER HAS MOVED AND ALSO MOST OF THEIR EVENTS ARE MEMBER AND NON MEMBERS ARE BOTH WELCOME.
AND SO WE'RE COMPETING WITH THE CHAMBER.
WE ACTUALLY HIRED A PERSON WHOSE WHOLE JOB ESSENTIALLY IS I LOOK AT IT IS TO COMPETE WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS ONE OF THE MAJOR DRIVERS OF BUSINESSES LOCATING IN THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER BE THAT WAY HERE. WHAT'S THAT? THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IN GEORGETOWN IS IN.
YEAH. SO WHAT I'VE BEEN HOPING TO DO IS, AND AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, STARVE THE GOVERNMENT TO WHERE YOU ARE FORCED TO DO THINGS.
BUT THE CITY HISTORICALLY DOES NOT WORK WELL WITH THE CHAMBER.
THE CHAMBER IS REALLY TRYING TO CHANGE.
AND A YEAR AGO, BEFORE THIS MONEY GOT ADDED IN, WE SAT DOWN TO HIRE. THEY WERE GOING TO HIRE A POSITION.
I SAID, MAN, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE COMPETING WITH THE CHAMBER. CAN WE GIVE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO THE CHAMBER WITH STIPULATIONS? WE WANT QUESTIONS ASKED, THE WHOLE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID AS A CITY? WE CHANGED THE JOB FUNCTIONS OF THAT POSITION.
SO NO LONGER ALIGN WITH THE CHAMBER, WHICH REALLY FRUSTRATED ME BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE CITY DOING ONE BUSINESS THING, THE CHAMBER DOING ANOTHER BUSINESS THING, SAYING SOMEHOW US WORKING TOGETHER, WE GOTTA WORK WITH THEM.
BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO SAY WHAT WE WANT AND TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY. I THINK IT'S JUST COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PEOPLE AND THEIR PEOPLE. BUT THAT'S COMING FROM A GUY THAT LITERALLY GOT INTO OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CHAMBER.
THAT WAS A PRIMARY REASON I RAN.
OKAY, SO CONSENSUS ON THE QUARTERLY EDITOR BIZ THRIVE EVENTS.
BUT AND HAVE YOU GUYS WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE CHAMBER IN TERMS OF I HEAR YOU PART
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OF THIS THOUGH THAT ROLE.STRONGLY DISAGREE. I KNOW, SO TAKE THE WEEK YOU SAVED ON NOT GOING TO THE BIOMEDICAL DEAL. AND THAT JUST FREED YOU ONE WEEK UP TO POWWOW AND GET CHUMMY WITH THE CHAMBER ON HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER.
YOU CAN EVEN OFFER TO BUY THEM LUNCH.
AND I THINK SOME OF US ON THE COUNCIL SIDE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SIT THERE AND HELP GET IT TOGETHER, BECAUSE WHAT THEY ALWAYS SAY IS THE CITY'S DOING STUFF AGAINST US, THEY'RE WORKING AGAINST US, AND THE CITY ALWAYS HAS A REASON WHY THE CHAMBER DOESN'T DO WELL. AND AT SOME POINT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOCK EVERYBODY IN A ROOM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, YOU GOTTA GET ALONG, BECAUSE WE CAN'T BOTH BE WORKING FOR HUTTO IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
THAT'S SUPER INTERESTING, BECAUSE THAT FEEDBACK HAS NOT MADE ITS WAY BACK TO STAFF. IN FACT, I JUST TALKED TO TIM LAST WEEK AND HE HAD NOTHING BUT NICE THINGS TO SAY, SO I'M SURE THEY'RE OKAY.
STATE OF THE CITY WAS ZEROED OUT.
THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
MANUFACTURING. THAT WAS ALSO NOT PROPOSED TO BE CUT.
IT'S A PRETTY MINIMAL INVESTMENT AND ALIGNS WITH THE MANUFACTURING FOCUS THAT SEEMS TO BE COMING TO FRUITION. FOOD AND MEALS WAS CUT FROM 1500 TO 750 BASED ON THE THE YEAR TO DATE. THAT SHOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
CAN YOU GO TOO FAR TO RUN BACK THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENT? REAL QUICK JUST TO CONFIRM WHICH ONES YOU HAVE? SO I HAVE THE TDC ECONOMIC EXCELLENCE AWARD ZEROED OUT.
I HAVE THE PRE-TRIP ZEROED OUT.
I HAVE WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT BOARD REGISTRATION ZEROED OUT.
I HAVE THE QUARTERLY ED EVENTS FOR BIZ THRIVE ZEROED OUT.
RED RIVER, THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON IT.
SHOW SECTION. SO WHAT'S LEFT IN THAT ONE IS THE 347 FOR SPECIAL.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ON THERE.
MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GETTING CAPTURED. FOOD AND MEALS, I SAID. YEAH, THAT GOT CUT TO 750.
I THINK THAT'S FINE. ATTORNEY SERVICES.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ATTORNEYS.
WOW. OKAY. I WAS JUST GETTING THIS.
OH, THERE IS ONE THING I WILL SAY ON THE ATTORNEY SERVICE SIDE.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TIME I TOOK OVER AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD AGAIN, WE I'VE INSTRUCTED GEORGE TO BUILD DIFFERENTLY IN THE SENSE OF PAY LITIGATION AND DEALING WITH THAT, THAT IS, OR LAND SALES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS FULLY INDEPENDENT OF DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AND OTHER LACK OF BETTER TERM BS, BUT JUST DIVIDING THEM.
SO WE HAVE GENERAL COUNSEL, WHICH IS ALL THE DAY TO DAY STUFF IN THE MEETINGS, AND WE HAVE THE PROJECTS SEPARATE BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU JUST SEE A BIG NUMBER AND GO, OH MY GOD, IT'S ALL OF THIS.
WELL, IF YOU HAVE 30 LAND SALES GOING ON, YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO HAVE LEGAL SERVICES. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YEAH. GOOD IDEA. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
SO FIRST SUB LINE ITEM THERE IS THE CITY OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WAS UNTOUCHED. SO THAT REMAINS THE CONCEPT DESIGN WAS ALSO LEFT AT 10,000 HOURS CONSULTING ALSO LEFT I WILL SAY STAFF HAD PUT THE CONCEPT DESIGN CONSULTING UP FOR DISCUSSION. THIS IS LIKELY ONLY NEEDED AT THIS POINT FOR THE RETAIL AND MIXED USE PORTION OF THE MEGA SITE.
WE'VE WE'VE GOT MIDWAY CURRENTLY PLANNING THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED $10,000.
I THINK THE RETAIL MIXED USE PROJECT OUT OF THE MEGA SITE COULD BE REVISITED AT A FUTURE TIME, SHOULD THE NEED ARISE.
SHOULD WE HAVE AN INTERESTED PARTY THAT SAYS, HEY, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE ALSO HAVE A VERY ROUGH DRAFT CONCEPT DESIGN THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY FROM GF OUT OF THE DALLAS AREA. SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO KIND OF GO OFF OF WHAT COULD EXIST OUT THERE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT $10,000 NEEDS TO BE SET ASIDE FOR THAT AT THIS POINT.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ZERO THAT OUT AT THIS TIME AND REVISIT IF THE NEED ARISES. CONCEPT DESIGN CONSULTING.
PUSH BACK ON THAT. WE GET TO ZERO OUT.
OKAY. CONSULTING STAFF LEAVING $10,000 IN THERE.
HONESTLY, THAT MAY NEED TO GO UP DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SERVICES THE CITY APPROVES IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. BUT AGAIN, SINCE WE JUST CUT 10,000 OUT OF CONCEPT DESIGN, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK AROUND AND HAS A NET ZERO IMPACT.
Y'ALL HAD PREVIOUSLY DIRECTED.
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SO THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS JUST THE BALANCE OF WHAT WAS AGREED TO THAT MOU.SO WE PAID THAT MONEY TO MIDWAY.
WE HAVEN'T YET. THAT IS THE BALANCE THAT WAS NOT TO EXCEED 125.
SO I TOOK THE 125 MINUS WHAT WE HAD PAID AND THAT WAS THE BALANCE.
SO SO YOU'VE PAID $43,000 TO MIDWAY.
WHAT DO WE PAY MIDWAY FOR? THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN? WE HAVE A LIST. IT WAS IN IN A PREVIOUS EDC MEETING.
I CAN SHARE THAT. THAT WAS THE BALANCE.
SO. SO WE'RE PAYING THEM MONEY FOR ENGINEERING, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT A SITE PLAN OR ELEVATIONS OR ANYTHING YET FOR THE QUARTER.
OH, I MEAN, YEAH, IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS WE STARTED RAISING HELL.
BEFORE THAT WE HADN'T GOT ANYTHING.
USUALLY LANDOWNERS DON'T PAY MONEY WHEN THEY'RE DOING DEALS.
USUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO DO THE DEAL, KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES SPENDING MONEY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I WAS LIKE, WE'RE WE'RE PAYING. ANYWAY, I'M CONFUSED ON HOW THIS WORKS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE MONEY OFF THEM.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE ENGINEERING.
IT'S SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE REPORTS.
SO, LIKE THE GEOTECH AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT, THAT WE WOULD OWN THE REPORTS THAT THEY WERE PAYING TO GET DONE.
IF AT THE END OF THAT MOU, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE GOT TO KEEP OWNERSHIP OF ANY PROGRESS THEY MADE.
YEAH. IS THIS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU MAPPED OUT WHAT HOW MUCH YOU HAD TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR? LIKE OUR EXPENSES? YEAH. SO SO THEY DID ANOTHER GEO.
THE ONE THAT WE ALREADY DID. DO WE HAVE.
THIS IS THE. LET'S GO OFFLINE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE PAID MONEY FOR. BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR GEO. WE JUST SETTLED WITH IT.
GEO SERVICES COMPANY MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AGO.
TARA. YEAH. FOR GEO SERVICES THAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR.
SO FOR. SO IF WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN, WE. HAVE THAT LIST IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT.
SO PUT AN ASTERISK ON THAT LINE ITEM.
I MADE A NOTE PAYING MIDWAY MONEY.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE PAYING US MONEY. HEY, LOOK, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD TELL Y'ALL.
I THINK THIS ITEM IS IF IT'S IF THE THOUGHT IS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE UNTIL.
AND BASICALLY GO ASK AGAIN LATER.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
I'M SITTING IN THE ROOM. THEN YOU STRIKE THE WHOLE FREAKING THING.
WHY? BECAUSE WE TORE UP THE MOU WITH MIDWAY.
RIGHT. SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, RIGHT NOW, UNTIL WE REENGAGE THEM OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT MONEY CAN'T BE SPENT.
NO, I'M SAYING THAT STRIP THE WHOLE AMOUNT OFF.
RIGHT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT RIGHT. YEAH I LIKE THAT.
82 SEVEN 1116. I AGREE WITH THAT.
SO ALBERTA. THAT WAS THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR 82 SEVEN 1116. IT'LL COME BACK.
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
AND A LOT OF THIS IS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T BUDGET IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T SPEND IT LATER. AND THE MOU EXPIRED DID IT NOT? YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH. SIMILARLY THE GRANT CONSULTING SERVICES.
SO THE POSITION THAT WAS CUT FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS PLANNED TO MANAGE GRANTS.
SO WITHOUT THAT PERSON, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE RESOURCES TO MANAGE GRANT PROJECTS AND DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO PURSUE ANY GRANT FUNDING AT THIS TIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR GRANT CONSULTING SERVICES AGAIN AT THIS TIME.
SHOULD SOMETHING COME UP LIKE THAT, SOMEBODY YOU KNOW MAKES US AWARE OF AMAZING GRANT, OR WE HAPPEN UPON ONE, THEN WE CAN REVISIT IF WE NEED CONSULTING SERVICES. ARE THESE GRANTS FROM THE STATE OR WHAT? THEY'RE SO GRANT CONSULTING SERVICES, TYPICALLY BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A GRANT WRITER ON STAFF.
TYPICALLY, MUNICIPALITIES CORPORATIONS WILL ENGAGE A GRANT WRITING SERVICE TO HELP THEM WITH. THE PROCESS WAS ARDUOUS.
AND THEY'RE USUALLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND THEN ALSO THE COMPLIANCE SIDE ON THE BACK END.
REALLY? YEAH, I KNOW IT'S QUITE INVOLVED, BUT WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? SO THEY COULD BE A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS. IT JUST DEPENDS. COULD BE FEDERAL, COULD BE STATE, COULD BE A LOWE'S COMMUNITY GRANT.
GOT IT. YEAH. HERE'S A POSITION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PAYING SOMEONE LIKE 100,000 TO THEN GO RAISE MONEY.
AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD ON THE COUNCIL WAS YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IN 100 GRAND JUST TO BREAK EVEN ON A DEAL. AND SOME OF US STRUGGLED WITH THAT.
SO ANY PUSHBACK ON ZEROING THE ITEM OUT? NO. IF NEEDED IT, SOMEBODY COULD BE CONTRACTED.
RIGHT. WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO BE A FULL TIME? WELL, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE I'VE SEEN GRANT WRITERS WHO DO IT AND THEY GET A THEY GET A
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PORTION OF THE GRANT AS THEIR THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THOSE GRANT SERVICES ARE STRUCTURED. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.TYPICALLY WE CAN THINK OF THAT WHENEVER THOSE ARE.
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES OPEN UP AGAIN.
ALRIGHT. HIGHWAY 78 CORRIDORS IS ZERO.
THAT WAS A CARRY OVER FROM LAST YEAR.
MARKETING SERVICES LINE COMMUNITY IMPACT ADS WAS 7500 COUNCIL CUT TO ZERO.
STAFF RECOMMENDS PUTTING THAT BACK IN.
REASON BEING AGAIN, TELLING OUR STORY, MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF HOW EVEN IN CENTRAL TEXAS, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE ARE WELL SERVED SPECIFICALLY FOR HOLIDAYS.
AND SO WE ARE PRETTY STRATEGIC ABOUT WHICH ISSUES WE ADVERTISE IN.
SO WHEN THEY DO LIKE THEIR BIG COMMUNITY CALENDAR, WE TRY TO PUT EVENTS IN THERE WHEN THEY DO THEIR HOLIDAY STUFF.
WE PUT HOLIDAYS IN WITH OUR FLIER INSERTED IN THERE AS WELL.
WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE, WE TRY TO PUT OUR AVAILABLE REAL ESTATE IN THERE. SO I THINK WE KEEP THIS.
IT DOES NOTHING TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO.
NO, NONE OF OUR WATER TO PUT THOSE ADS IN? NO. FOR ME, I'M LIKE, DO YOU GUYS READ COMMUNITY IMPACT? YES. YES. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A ROUND ROCK AD PUT IN THERE? A PFLUGERVILLE AD? YES, YES.
NOT NOT DON'T SEE THE INSERTS.
OKAY. I SEE A LOT OF ADVERTISING LINKEDIN.
MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS WE HAVE AN ENTIRE MARKETING ARM IN THE CITY OF HUTTO.
WE HAVE LIKE, FIVE FACEBOOK PAGES.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO MARKETING.
IS IT IS IT MAYBE AS EFFECTIVE IN FACEBOOK VERSUS A BUSINESS ORIENTED.
I JUST THINK EVERYTHING WE DO IS IS WEIRD.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU GO TO MAKE A FACEBOOK POST, IT'LL TELL YOU THIS IS WHEN MOST OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE ACTIVE AND IS OUT POSTING STUFF AT LIKE 3:00 IN THE MORNING ABOUT AN EVENT COMING UP, OR THEY POSTED AFTER THINGS HAPPEN.
AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE DEALS TO WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE.
I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE OF OUR MARKETING, BUT IT SURPRISES ME.
YEAH, BUT YEAH, LET'S KEEP THIS ON GRANER. SO WHOM IS PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION? COMMUNITY IMPACT SO THAT IT NOW IS WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO WE DESIGN THOSE ADS, WE PULL THAT DATA AND WE AND IT SAYS HERE THAT IT COULD REDUCE THAT LINE ITEM TO $3,000.
YEAH. SO WHAT I WOULD THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY WAS TO SHIFT THE TO THE HOLIDAYS AND MARKETING COMPONENT DOWN INTO THE 50,000 CONTRIBUTION ANNUALLY.
SO BASICALLY EARMARK THOSE FUNDS LIKE PAY A PORTION OF THAT NEEDS TO BE FOR A COMMUNITY IMPACT AD AND FLIER LIKE WE TYPICALLY DONE.
SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLOCATE THAT.
SO REALLOCATING HALF OF IT TO THE HOLIDAY.
CORRECT. SO WE WOULD SHIFT 4500 OF IT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT $50,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS HOLIDAY PHOTO, IF THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THIS LINE ITEM TO 3000, IT WOULD JUST BE THE SINGLE AD FOR ALL ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT HOLIDAY AHEAD OF HOLIDAY AND THOSE EXPENSES AND HOLIDAY AND HUDDLES. YES.
OKAY. YEAH. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
OKAY. SO WE WILL REDUCE THE COMMUNITY IMPACT ADS TO 3000 AND REALLOCATE OR I GUESS LINE OUT HOLIDAYS AND HOW TO.
SHOW THE CAN WE SKIP STRAIGHT I DID WE OH, SORRY.
THAT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL I KNOW.
SORRY, SORRY I'M SORRY I'M IT'S ZERO NOW.
SO IF YOU SKIP IT, IT'S NOT THERE.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET. NO, WE PASSED IT.
IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA.
IT'S WHEN I CLICK ON MY THING, IT DOES IT.
COME ON GUYS, WE HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT ON THIS NUMBER.
IS THAT BECAUSE. NOT SERIOUSLY.
KEEP SCROLLING. AND IT LIKE I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE AGAIN BECAUSE WE STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO PLACE YOUR AI SOFTWARE 30,000 FOR 29 WAS ZEROED OUT BY COUNCIL.
WE USE THIS PLATFORM A LOT, AND IT HAS A LOT OF CAPABILITIES THAT WE ALSO SHARE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WE ALSO SHARE WITH THE CHAMBER.
THIS IS ALSO MY LENS OF COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES.
THIS IS A THIS IS LIKE PARAMOUNT IN COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES, BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES OUT THERE, LIKE ESRI AND MOODY'S ANALYTICS AND THE TEXAS A&M REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENTS, THEY ALL HAVE WILDLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
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PLACER AI IS ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT I'VE SEEN ACTUALLY VERIFIED TO BE ALMOST LIKE 100% CORRECT. SO IT'S VERY LIKE VERY TRUSTWORTHY INFORMATION.ONLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PUT IN CHARGE OF FINDING OF COMPARING ALL THE THINGS, AND THAT ONE SEEMS TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT.
DO DO DEVELOPERS COME IN? DO THEY ALSO USE PLACER AI? IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF DEVELOPER OR EQUIVALENT SOFTWARE.
THEY HAVE SOME THEIR SITE TO DO BUSINESS.
ESRI IS A BIG ONE. BUT THEY THEY ALSO USE IT THOUGH.
SO WAIT, I HAVE A POINT OF ASKING.
I'M ASKING YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE. I TRUST YOU IN THAT IT.
IF THEY HAVE THAT AND THEY'RE USING IT, THEN WHATEVER WE GIVE THEM, THEY WOULD TECHNICALLY ALREADY HAVE.
OR IF THEY'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 50, THEY'RE USING IT.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND THEY'RE ASKING US FOR IT OR THEY'RE USING BUXTON.
HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS A LOT OF DEVELOPERS ARE NOT UNDER THE AGE OF 50. IT'S NOT A GOVERNMENT THING.
IT'S JUST NOT A GOVERNMENT THING.
IT'S INFORMATION THAT HERE'S WHAT I SAY, CAITLIN.
IN MY MIND, THIS IS INFORMATION WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
IT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE OUT GOING.
WELL, I THINK THIS THIS BUSINESS IS TOO CLOSE TO THAT ONE.
WELL, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR BUSINESS OPERATION IS.
SO WE'RE USING THE INFORMATION IN A MANNER TO WHERE IT'S LIKE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. AND SO WE START I'VE HEARD THE CONVERSATIONS I THINK THIS IS TOO CLOSE.
THAT'S IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S JOB TO DO THAT.
AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE YOU'RE COMING HERE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE USED BY ANY OF THE I'M ALMOST POSITIVE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED BY THE MANUFACTURING PEOPLE.
THE BIOMETRIC PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO GET THIS IS PREDOMINANTLY USED BY, SORRY, THERE'S A WHOLE WORKFORCE COMPONENT TO THIS TOO.
LIKE IT'S NOT JUST TRAFFIC STUDIES.
IT'S GET ALL THAT. I GET ALL THAT WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A RETAIL BUILDING, WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING RETAIL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, I CAN ALMOST TELL YOU THE GUY BUILDING THE BUILDING ISN'T USING THIS, TRYING TO LOCATE THE PEOPLE THERE.
THOSE PEOPLE MAY BE LOOKING, BUT ARE THEY GETTING INFORMATION FROM US OR ARE THEY GETTING IT FROM THEIR BROKER? AND I WOULD ARGUE THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THEIR BROKER, JLLS, THE CBRE PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT IN YOUR JOB IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE USING INFORMATION, RIGHT? WE DON'T USE PLACER AI.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, YOU HAVE TO BE OF A CERTAIN COMPANY SIZE TO TO WARRANT THE COST.
THANK YOU. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THESE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LIKE INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT PAYING FOR PLACE OR AI.
THEY RELY ON EDCS TO HELP THEM.
AND I, I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE INFORMATION GARNERED FROM PLACER AI I'VE SEEN TURN A NO INTO A YES AND A YES INTO A NO.
JUST TO IT'S LIKE ANALYZE THIS SITE WITH THESE FROM THESE THREE VANTAGE POINTS.
THIS WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE PURSUE THE SITE AND.
JUST WHO ARE WE GOING FOR THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHY I STARTED. WE WANT TO OFFER THAT AS SOME AS PART OF OUR. I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.
YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU WE SHARE THIS WITH OTHER ENTITIES.
YOU YOU MENTIONED THE CHAMBER AND SOMEONE ELSE.
YEAH. WE USE WE'VE SHARED THIS WITH PARKS, SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT USES IT.
WE SHARE CERTAIN REPORTS WITH CHAMBERS.
PARKS IS INTERNAL. INTERNAL? I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE SHARING IT WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES, WHY AREN'T THEY BURYING SOME OF THE COSTS? THEY'RE NOT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLATFORM.
WE SHARE TWO REPORTS WITH THEM A YEAR FOLLOWING OLD TIME DAYS AND CRAWFISH FEST.
AND IF THEY WENT OUTSIDE TO GET THAT, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? THE CHAMBER. I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. THEY WOULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T GET THE INFORMATION. RIGHT.
THEY WOULDN'T PAY FOR NOT TELLING YOU IS WE HAVE THEY HAVE AN ESTIMATION BASED ON CELL PHONE USE. RIGHT. AND A GEO GRIDDED AREA.
THEY GO THROUGH AN ALGORITHM AND SAY 8000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
AND SO THE INFORMATION WE'RE SHARING IS 8000 PEOPLE WENT TO YOUR EVENT.
AND IN MY MIND, ONE LINE, THERE'S NO THERE'S MORE INFORMATION.
IT SHOWS YOU WHAT ZIP CODES THEY CAME FROM.
IT SHOWS YOU WHERE THEY WENT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE AND AFTER THE EVENT, SO THAT YOU CAN TAILOR YOUR MARKETING EFFORTS MORE SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
IT SHOWS YOU DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.
REMIND ME TO LEAVE MY CELL PHONE AT HOME. MY POINT IS, IS THAT IF WE'RE PAYING X AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE'RE SHARING WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT PAYING FOR IT, I THINK THEY SHOULD PAY FOR IT SOMEHOW.
MAYBE IT'S $500 ON A $30,000 BILL, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.
BUT STILL, IT'S JUST MY POINT.
WELL, ARE WE CHANGING OUR MARKETING BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING? YEAH.
ARE WE CHANGING IT? WE HAVE ACTIVELY PURSUED OTHER LIKE FACEBOOK GROUPS THAT ARE IN OTHER
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AREAS. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO POSITION IN OUR EVENTS AND WHEN COM HAS IS THAT ALL YOU LIKE PAY TO PUMP UP? LIKE, HEY, LIKE, HEY, SEO IS LIKE, IS ORGANIC? IT'S LIKE PAY PER CLICK TYPE STUFF.IT'S SO WE'RE PAYING FOR DONE THAT.
THEY'VE DONE THAT BASED ON THE MARKETING FEEDBACK THAT WE SEE FROM THESE REPORTS.
I JUST THINK IT'S A COMPETITION PIECE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, I GET THAT IT'S A HUGE NUMBER.
IT JUST GIVES US A. CONNECTION BACK TO OUR SIN.
FOR WHO ARE WE TRYING TO GET? WELL, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO AS AN EDC? I THINK WE'RE BACK TO GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE BECAUSE EARLIER WE WERE SAYING WE WANT TO THE BIG MANUFACTURERS, WE WANT THE BIOMED PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT USING US.
IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO, BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT DOES IS IT ANALYZES WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING WORKS. IT ANALYZES THINGS AFTER THE FACT.
SO LIKE, OKAY, WE BROUGHT IRONWOOD HERE.
HOW DID THINGS CHANGE AFTER THAT? DID PEOPLE LEAVE US? DID PEOPLE MOVE AWAY FROM US BECAUSE THEY'RE MAD ABOUT IT? OR DID PEOPLE? ARE MORE PEOPLE MOVING HERE BECAUSE THEY GOT JOBS THERE? LIKE WHAT? WHAT HAVE WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING? I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT. WHAT I'VE SEEN TO DO IS IT'S AGAIN, IT'S AN ALGORITHM. SO WHAT I'VE SEEN IT DO IS, IS YOU CAN COMPARE THIS RETAIL PLACE TO ANOTHER RETAIL PLACE AND GO BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT BASED ON TRIPS AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO GOING BASED ON THE STATE OF TEXAS OR A 15 MILE AREA WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PLACE HOW IT COMPARES TO OTHER LIKE PLACES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHO'S COMING, WHO'S GOING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT GETS INTO THAT, BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT, I JUST TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE'RE CHANGING OUR MARKETING, BECAUSE I HAVE A I HAVE SEVERE CONCERNS ON OUR MARKETING.
WE HAVE A WHOLE DEPARTMENT OF MARKETING.
AND SO. OKAY, SO A DEVELOPER COMES TO YOU GUYS AND SAYS, I WANT DEMOGRAPHICS REPORT, SAY PLACE OR AI DOESN'T EXIST.
I WANT DEMOGRAPHICS REPORT OF THE INTERSECTION OF LOOP AND 1660.
WHAT ARE YOU USING THAT PLACE FOR AI? WHAT WERE YOU USING BEFORE? I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PLACER FOR I THINK THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN ON.
SO I WOULD SAY WHAT BROKERS COME IN AND DOING THAT, BECAUSE BEFORE MY COMPANY GOT PROGRAMS, WE JUST ASKED THE BROKER, HEY, CAN YOU RUN A REPORT? THEY RAN A REPORT. OKAY.
YOU WOULD ASK THE BROKERS. THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. CAN WE SEE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING IN THE PAST THAT WE DID THIS, THIS EVENT OR THIS OCCURRED? HERE'S THE DATA FROM IT.
AND THEN HERE'S WHAT WE EITHER DID OR PLANNING TO DO BASED ON THIS REPORT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT PROJECT LAKE, WE'VE LEVERAGED PLACER SIGNIFICANTLY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S A CATCH 22 HERE.
YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THEY CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. WELL, THAT PARTICULAR RETAILER SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT YET THEY'RE ASKING THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. BUT PROJECT LAKE IS ASKING FOR HOW MANY LOTS DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY HOMES DO YOU HAVE IN CONSTRUCTION? HOW MANY NEW NEIGHBORHOODS DO YOU HAVE? THE STUFF THAT PLACER AI DOESN'T HAVE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THEIR 30 MINUTE DRIVE TIME AND 60 MINUTE DRIVE TIME.
SO THEIR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MARKETS WHERE BUT WE DON'T THEY CAN GET THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS COMING ON.
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF ROCKDALE, WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF TAYLOR.
THEY WANT TO KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE FUTURE IN THOSE AREAS, NOT WHAT CURRENTLY IS, BECAUSE WHAT CURRENTLY IS.
THEY CAN GET THAT. THAT'S WHAT THESE COMPANIES THAT I FIND ARE WANTING IS THEY WANT TO KNOW THE STUFF THAT ONLY WE KNOW, AND WE'RE USING INFORMATION THAT EVERYBODY CAN CAN GET. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GET IT, LET'S BUY IT.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE, NONE OF THIS INFORMATION, WE HAVE NONE OF THIS GREAT VALUABLE INFORMATION WE HAVE IS ON THE WEBSITE.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, BECAUSE WE ASKED PROJECT LAKE ASSETS FOR INFORMATION, AND FOR TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN COMPILING INFORMATION THAT IF IT'S SO EASY TO GET, BUT WHAT THEY WANT IS THE FUTURE.
THEY WANT TO KNOW THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING.
WHAT DO YOU SEE IN PLACE OR II DOESN'T DO THAT.
OKAY. SO MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION AND I WHY DID YOU WHY DID WE DECIDE TO GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT WAS IF EFFECTIVELY THE.
SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO SURMISE FROM THE VARIOUS REPORTS, NOT JUST EVENTS, BUT ALSO THEIR ANALYSIS AND LEAKAGE REPORT, WHICH IS MY EXPERIENCE.
I MEAN, IF Y'ALL THINK THAT ASKING THE BROKER IS GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION,
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I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT TESTED OUT.IN SPROUTS. WELL, WE CAN DO IT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START PERFORMING. THE THE STAFF ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE HAVE GOT TO START USING INFORMATION AND PERFORM SAYING THERE'S 8000 PEOPLE CAME TO AN EVENT AND THEY CAME FROM WHAT ZIP CODES. HOW IS THAT HELPING ANYBODY IN HUTTO? AND YOU SAY THERE'S A CHANGE IN MARKETING.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
MARKETING HAS CHANGED OVER TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE DO THE SAME ADS, WE DO THE SAME THING. AND THE THING I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT TO DAVID IS, IS WE HAVE ALL THIS FIREPOWER AND THERE'S YOU GUYS ARE GETTING NO TRACTION ON ANYTHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SO WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT'S NOT WORKING.
AND PEOPLE KEEP SAYING, I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD AN EVENT. I'M LIKE, WELL, IT'S CRAZY. WE HAVE LIKE FOUR PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IS TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE LIKE FIVE FACEBOOK PAGES.
WE HAVE SOME PLACE FOR AI THING WE'RE DOING WITH PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT'S WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IS NOT WORKING. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO IT ANOTHER YEAR, DO IT A YEAR. BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START SHOWING US YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, I GOT SOME INFORMATION FOR PROJECT LAKE.
HOW DID TO HIS POINT, WHAT'S THE ROI ON IT? WHAT DID WE ACTUALLY LAND? WE HAVEN'T LANDED A BUSINESS ON ANYTHING WE'VE DONE FOR TWO YEARS. THAT I CAN THINK OF.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN TWO YEARS AGO, RIGHT? THE WINE BAR DOESN'T COUNT. SHE WAS ALREADY GOING THERE. HAPPY PANINI DOESN'T COUNT.
SHE WAS ALREADY GOING THERE. EVA WAS ALREADY HERE.
POTBELLY DIDN'T COME BECAUSE OF US.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ANYBODY.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND ENERGY.
WE'RE NOT GETTING. THEY'RE WANTING SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO WE GOT 13 MINUTES. WELL, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASK TO SHOW THE MISS 43. IT'S SO EXPENSIVE.
HER FIRM IS A FAIRLY LARGE FIRM.
THEY DON'T EVEN THEY THEY IT'S NOT EVEN AFFORDABLE TO THEM. BUT IT'S GOVERNMENT MONEY AND IT'S A LOT EASIER.
THAT'S WHY I SAID WE HAVE 11 AGENTS.
IT'S NOT LARGE AT ALL. BUT YOU GUYS ARE BIGGER THAN THAT AS FAR AS VOLUME IS CONCERNED. YES, BUT WE ARE 11.
IT'S JUST BETTER THAN AVERAGE, RIGHT? SO CHEAPER CUT. LET'S KEEP IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW US. I MEAN, WE CAN CUT IT. WE CAN CUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME. WE CAN CUT IT. YEAH, I'LL SAY KEEP IT.
BUT WE I, WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE'RE USING IT.
I THINK THE WEBSITE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED WITH PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE SOFTWARE. YEAH, I'M I'M GOOD WITH KEEPING IT, BUT WHAT IS THE 30,000 BIAS? IS IT A ONE YEAR LICENSE? IS IT. AND HOW MANY HOW MANY USERS I BELIEVE WE HAVE WE HAVE UNLIMITED USERS.
I THINK I'D HAVE TO CHECK, BUT I BET NOT.
I'D ALSO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SHARING THE INFORMATION.
I AGREE, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU WE HAD TO SIGN SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NOT USE THE INFORMATION OUTSIDE AND SHARE IT WITH ANYBODY.
VERY WELL SCRUBBED, EXTREMELY PARTICULAR.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE OUT TALKING ABOUT SHARING WITH EVERYBODY, JUST KNOW I MAYBE WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT ALRIGHT, SO KEEP IT FOR NOW.
OKAY, ONE OTHER LAST QUESTION ACTUALLY PROMPTING ME IS THAT DO THEY HAVE ANY OFFER? IS THAT 30,000 GIVE US ANY CONSULTANT OR ASSISTANCE IN SOME SPECIFIC REPORTING AND OR TRAINING? YES. SO THERE'S WE HAVE AN ASSIGNED CUSTOMER SERVICE AGENT THAT WE CAN MEET WITH AS MANY TIMES AS WE WANT.
SO WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THAT? IS IT GOOD QUICK RESPONSE. GOOD RESPONSE.
YEAH. THERE IS SOME CHANGEOVER EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT KIND OF CAUSED A COUPLE WRINKLES AND SOME THINGS. BUT WE'VE HAD A CONSISTENT GAL NOW FOR THE LAST PROBABLY 4 TO 6 MONTHS.
SO IT'S BEEN MUCH BETTER, MUCH MORE STEADY.
BUT IT WAS AN ISSUE IN THE PAST.
IT HAS BEEN BUT AGAIN, TURNOVER IT HAPPENS.
SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY HAVE THE NOOKS AND CRANNIES AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO USE AN ANALYTIC.
YEAH. AND THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF WEBINARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO, ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW MODULES AS THEY ROLL THEM OUT OR UPDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THAT STAFF IS ABLE TO TAKE.
IT'S ALSO A QUICK TURN. I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS DATA, WE HAVE THIS POWERHOUSE, WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE THE ENGINE THERE.
BUT IF IT TAKES US SIX MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS TO KIND OF PERCOLATE THROUGH OUR SYSTEM TO MODIFY OUR MARKETING OR WHATEVER, IF THEY CAN ACCELERATE THAT, AT LEAST INITIALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO TARGET.
YEAH. SO I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE THAT I REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS.
OKAY. JUST FOR ME THE, THE INCENTIVES MANAGEMENT CIVIC SERVE AND THE DIGITAL TOURING SOFTWARE, THE DIGITAL TOURING SOFTWARE.
MY NOTES ON THAT IS LINE 57 OR 58, I THINK.
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YEAH. IS THAT THAT'S A NICE LUXURY ITEM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT THIS YEAR. CAN YOU SAY THOSE AGAIN? THE DIGITAL DIGITAL SUPPORTING THE DIGITAL TOURING SOFTWARE LINE 58.IT'S $5,000. THEY GOT AS A RESULT OF HOLIDAYS, AND IT'S LIKE A PASSPORT DEAL TO ME, THAT'S A LUXURY ITEM.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD SKIP THAT FOR RIGHT NOW. I DON'T I DON'T SEE I MEAN, IS IT NICE? YES. IS IT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENT? YES. BUT I THINK WE COULD CUT THAT.
AND THEN THE THE INCENTIVES MANAGEMENT, THE CIVIC SERV.
I'M NOT SURE WHY WHAT THAT IS OR WHY IT'S NEEDED SPECIFICALLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ON THAT REALLY QUICKLY, BUT I THOUGHT JAMES SAID THAT WAS GOING TO FINANCE. SO I DON'T THINK THE THE SOFTWARE ITSELF IS GOING TO FINANCE, BUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF HELPING MANAGE THAT STUFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO FINANCE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE POSITION THAT WAS CUT FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE TO FARM SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE EFFECTIVE COMPLIANCE FOR INCENTIVES.
SO HOW MANY INCENTIVE PROGRAMS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? SO WE HAVE AGREEMENTS OR PROGRAMS BECAUSE PROGRAMS HAVE 311 312, 380. TECHNICALLY I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TALKING LIKE WAS IT EVO? WE HAD THE ACADEMY. HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE? I THINK WE ARE PUSHING CLOSE TO 20 OR SO RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE VERSES THAT REQUIRE MANAGEMENT.
THE CHAPTER 312 PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE COMPLIANCE MANAGEMENT MOVING FORWARD.
I HONESTLY I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A WIN FOR 16 GRAND.
YOU CAN GET A PLATFORM THAT HELPS AUTOMATE THAT ENTIRE SYSTEM AS FAR AS HAVING CONSISTENT APPLICATIONS, AND THEN ALSO AN INTERFACE WHERE BOTH THE CITY SIDE CAN COMMUNICATE OUT TO WHATEVER ENTITY IS ENGAGED IN THAT INCENTIVE, THEY CAN GET PROMPTS TO SUBMIT THEIR STUFF, LIKE WE CAN REVIEW IT AND COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH. IT'S ALL IN ONE PORTAL.
I THINK HONESTLY, FOR THE PRICE, ESPECIALLY WITH SOFTWARE CONCERNS, THAT'S THAT'S A WIN. SO WHAT DOES EDC? IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A FINANCE ISSUE.
WELL, BECAUSE THE EDC IS THE ONE THAT ADMINISTERS ALL OF THE INCENTIVES.
PLEASE FORGET THE 20 ITEMS, BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS CAN HANDLE TRACKING 20 THINGS ON YOUR OWN.
BUT TOURS ISN'T ALL THAT THE EDC IS HANDLING THAT.
SO THE EDC IS THE THEY RECEIVE THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE TOURS AND APPROVE AND RECOMMEND TO THE TOURIST BOARD.
WHAT APPLICATIONS ARE IS THE EDC GETTING FOR TOURS? WELL, SO FAR WE'VE JUST GOT ONE FROM SKYBOX THAT WAS RECEIVED AND THEN AND SAME THING FOR CHAPTER 312. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RECEIVING BODY OR REVIEWING BODY FOR THE 312 12.
PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT WHICH AGAIN, SO FAR WE JUST HAVE THE ONE FOR THE DATA CENTER. BUT OKAY, SO WE GOT IN HERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF MAKE IT OUT TO BE MORE IN MY MIND MORE LIKE WELL IT'S FOR CHURCHES AND 312.
SO HOW MANY DO YOU GOT. WELL WE GOT ONE. BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING MORE.
YES. BUT EVERY TIME YOU GO TO THIS IS WHY I'LL BE HONEST.
THIS IS WHY I TOLD JAMES JUST WHY I DON'T LIKE SEMINARS. EVERY TIME YOU GO TO A CINEMA, THERE'S A GREAT PIECE OF SOFTWARE OR A GREAT TOOL THAT'S LIFE CHANGING, BUT YOU CAN'T BUY THEM ALL.
AND YOU GO, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS LIKE, THAT WOULD BE COOL TO BE HAVING. THAT'D BE COOL TO HAVE, AND I'D BE COOL TO HAVE. BUT THIS WASN'T FROM A SEMINAR FOR AWARENESS.
THIS WAS HOW CAN WE BE MORE EFFICIENT? AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING IN COMPLIANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SENDING MONEY OUT THE DOOR WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENTS BEING MET AND VICE VERSA? SO THE OTHER THING IS IT DOES HAVE CAPABILITIES TO INCLUDE THE HOT PROGRAM SPONSORSHIPS PROGRAM GRANT PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD WE DECIDE TO ADD THOSE COMPONENTS THERE? IT'S ABLE TO SUPPORT ALL OF THAT IN ONE SPOT.
WE ALSO, I WILL NOTE, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE A CRM.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO NET ABOUT $1,500 IN SAVINGS BY ENDING OUR BLUE DOT CONTRACT AND ADDING THE CRM COMPONENT HERE.
WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF THAT, AND FEEL LIKE THE CRM IS ADEQUATE FOR WHAT WE WOULD NEED AND COMPARABLE TO BLUE DOT.
SO WE WOULD WANT TO GO AHEAD AND COMBINE THOSE FOR NET 1500 A YEAR SAVINGS FOR THAT AS WELL. SO I CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IN THIS ONE.
IT SAYS IN THE NOTES I GET IT'S IN THE NOTES.
BUT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT YOU'RE DOING BLUE DOT AND YOU'RE DOING THIS WELL BECAUSE WE CAN'T. OUR CONTRACT WITH BLUE DOT GOES UNTIL JULY.
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SO WE CAN'T IT'LL BE LIKE A MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT IF YOU WILL, BUT I WOULDN'T. WE CAN'T.WHY WOULDN'T YOU SAY OKAY, SO I'M CONFUSED.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE IN JULY? WE WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ACCOUNTING COME BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN JULY, RIGHT.
TO THEN ADD TO THIS AND TAKE AWAY FROM BLUE DOT.
WHAT IF WE JUST CHANGE THE LINE ITEM? WELL, IF WE DON'T PUT MONEY IN THIS FOR THE TAKEOVER, BLUE DOT AND 1575 ISN'T THE NUMBER, THEN AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD MONEY TO THAT LINE ITEM, RIGHT? TO GET YOU THROUGH AUGUST.
SEPTEMBER? NO, I'M WITH YOU. SO THE BLUE DOT CONTRACT IS IN JULY.
SO WE JUST FOUND THIS OUT LIKE THE WEEK BEFORE LAST.
SO NO I DID NOT GO BACK AND CHANGE THE LINE ITEM BECAUSE I HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY LINE ITEMS UNTIL AFTER WE GET DIRECTION.
SO IF YOU WANT THAT CHANGE WE CAN CHANGE IT, ARTICULATE IT CORRECTLY.
THERE'S A CRM COMPONENT THAT WOULD TRANSITION FROM THE CURRENT PLATFORM BLUE DOT, WHICH WOULD BE A NET SAVINGS OF 1500.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHY IS IT THAT CHANGE IN HERE? BECAUSE IF WE ACCEPT THIS AS IT IS, THEN NEXT JULY, YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO NEED MONEY FOR BLUE DOT, WHICH YOU HAVE 7400 IN THERE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO EXTEND BLUE DOT.
BUT IN REALITY THAT NUMBER SHOULDN'T BE THERE. SO WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER TO SEE IS AN ADDITIONAL 6000 ON THIS LINE ITEM AND ZERO OUT THE TOP SO THAT YOU CAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. IT'S IN THERE TO WHERE NEXT YEAR IN JULY WE DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE HEY GUYS, I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THIS AND SAVE US MONEY.
I MEAN. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE GOT ALL THESE PROGRAMS DOING EVERYTHING. AND AT THE END, I MEAN, WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF PROGRAMS. AND SOME OF THEM, I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AND SOME OF THEM, I THINK ARE NICE TO HAVES.
BUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY'S LIFE EASIER.
IF IT INCREASES EFFICIENCY, I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER.
YEAH, I'M WILLING TO KEEP THIS ONE. AND THEN THE AND REDUCE THE REDUCE THE BLUE DOT NET.
OKAY. NO. ON THE DIGITAL TOURING SOFTWARE.
WHAT'S THE COST FOR THAT GIFT CARD? WE DO IF WE DON'T HAVE A COST FOR THAT? THE PURCHASER PAYS THE THE FEE.
SO WHEN I GO BUY A GIFT CARD, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU BUY. IS THAT LIKE THE VANILLA? YEAH. HE'S LIKE CHARGE OR WHATEVER.
YEAH. WELL, I THINK WE PROBABLY CAN'T.
MAYBE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE EDP.
BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE COST OF IT.
LOWEST? OPTION. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD REALLY, THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT BIG A DEAL, I GUESS. IS THE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP? IS IS THAT WHAT IT COSTS TO BE FRIENDLY WITH THEM? IS 2500 OR CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO SPARK AT 550.
I MEAN THAT'S UP TO THIS BOARD.
I KNOW PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL HAD REDUCED FROM THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY PROSPER MEMBERS AND REDUCED DOWN TO WHATEVER IN I FORGET WHAT THEIR THE NEXT ONE IS CATEGORY.
YEAH. THE NEXT ONE DOWN IS 1500 AND THEN THE SPARK IS 550 AND THEN GENERIC IS 300.
I KNOW THAT THE PROSPER MEMBERSHIP DOES GET A DISCOUNTED GALA TABLE WHICH TRADITIONALLY THIS BOARD HAS PURCHASED.
IT ALSO GETS WHAT IS THAT DISCOUNT IF IT'S $250, BUT IT'S $1,500 EXTRA.
WELL, NO SAVE $200. IT'S NOT THE 500 THAT HE'S TALKING.
I'M SAYING GO TO THE TO THE LEVEL BELOW THAT IS 550.
I'M NOT SAYING SUGGESTING. I'M SAYING THAT'S THE SAYING WE'RE ADVERSE FOR SAVING $200, BUT SPENDING $250 TO GET IT.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I SUPPORT THE THAT'S CORRECT.
I'D SUPPORT THE CHAMBER LIKE IT'S IN HERE, ONLY FOR THE REASON.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A STRONG CHAMBER, THERE'S A LOT OF BIG BUSINESSES THAT SIGN UP BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA HAVE A CHAMBER THAT IS HELPING US.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED, WHAT'S THE I MEAN, I'M I'M FINE WITH IT. I JUST PUT A NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT GET US? IS IT WORTH PAYING? IS IT, IS IT IF IF IF IT HELPS RELATIONS PR THEN WE'RE GOOD. YES. IT ALSO GETS TWO TICKETS EVERY MONTH TO THE LUNCHEON, WHICH TYPICALLY WE DO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER.
IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO GO OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THOSE ARE $15, I THINK FOR NONMEMBERS OR 20 FOR NONMEMBERS.
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SO TWO OF THOSE TIMES, 12 MONTHS.LIKE JUST TO BE AT THAT LEVEL FOR ME.
EVERYTHING BELOW. WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT LINE 58, I'M GOOD WITH HOW COUNCIL APPROVED.
THAT'S HOW I THAT'S MY TAKE ON THE REST.
OKAY, SO JUST HITTING THOSE THEN THAT COUNCIL HAD PROPOSED, EXCEPT FOR THE WILKO, BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS A MINIMUM.
SO THE SALES TAX TRAINING AS LEGAL SAID I WOULD BE REQUIRED TO TAKE THAT SO I CAN REDUCE THAT TO THE 825 VERSUS THE 1700.
YEP. OKAY. THEN ZEROED OUT REAL ESTATE ADS.
HOLD ON. YES, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT.
SO THIS WAS NOT PROPOSED BY COUNCIL, BUT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE TDC AND TML WEBINARS. AND SO IF YOU ARE TDC MEMBERS, THEN THAT TAKES AWAY THAT COMPONENT.
AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF INTEREST WOULD BE FOR TML.
LIKE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE COME THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN SENT AROUND.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW FROM THE RESIDENTS.
I KNOW COUNCIL HAS YOUR OWN BUDGET TO CREDIT TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WAS PROPOSED. THAT'S 1225.
OKAY. HOW ABOUT SELECTING THAT ONE? OKAY. SO YEAH. SO TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, SALES TAX TRAINING WENT FROM 1700 TO 825.
ADDITIONAL TRAINING WENT FROM 1225 TO 0.
AND THEN LEAD THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE CUT ALSO.
THAT WAS 825. I'M GOOD WITH CUTTING THAT ALSO.
THAT WAS FINE. OUR PROSPER MEMBERSHIP ACTUALLY GETS YOU GUYS A SEAT IN THAT PROGRAM. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE.
WE ZEROED OUT. AND WE'LL GO EDP.
YEAH. GREATER ASIAN CHAMBER WAS ANOTHER MEMBERSHIP THAT I WANTED TO POSE FOR CONSIDERATION. SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GAC EVENTS AND INITIATIVES DUE TO THEIR COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER AREA CHAMBERS OR THE EDP. SO STAFF WOULD SUPPORT CUTTING THAT UNLESS THERE SEEMS TO BE A PR OR RELATIONSHIP BENEFIT. OKAY, WHICH ONE WAS THAT? THE AUSTIN ASIAN CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP FOR 400 IS NOW ZERO.
AND THEN I THINK THAT WAS IT DOWN HERE.
OH. YES. SO WHY DON'T WE WANT THE AUSTIN THING FIRST? WE FOR YOU HOW WE DO. OKAY.
THANK YOU. DID YOU GET THROUGH 6417 AGAIN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OH. SO I KNOW ONE THING.
AND THE FIRE SUPPRESSION THING CAME UP, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME FACTS ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS FOR ME WITHIN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF YEARS, WHICH IS THAT I SPENT ON A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
I SPENT APPROXIMATELY $50,000.
AND THAT JUST OPEN AIR, BRAND NEW GROUND UP BUILDING, SUPER SIMPLE EXISTING, TYING OFF THE EXISTING SPRINKLER SYSTEM, EVERYTHING ELSE. THERE IS NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH YOU'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING DOWNTOWN AND PUT A DENT INTO ANYTHING.
WHY? BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN ACTUAL PUMP FOR SUPPRESSION, WHICH THEN ALSO MEANS YOU NEED A JOCKEY PUMP.
YOU'VE GOT ASBESTOS, POTENTIALLY IN SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH EXISTING ARCHITECTURE AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 6 AND $12 A SQUARE FOOT JUST TO PROVIDE SUPPRESSION.
SO IN A ROOM LIKE THIS, WHICH IS SORRY, I DIDN'T DO THE MATH.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 400FT², GIVE OR TAKE, MAYBE A LITTLE LARGER.
YOU'RE TALKING EVERY BIT OF PROBABLY $6,000 JUST FOR THIS ROOM.
THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING ANYTHING ELSE.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND CONCEPT, BUT I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVER, BECAUSE BEING IN AN OLDER BUILDING ALSO AFFORDS YOU WHAT CODE WAS BACK THEN.
THE SECOND YOU CHANGE ONE THING, IT'S LIKE MY BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2001.
I HAVE THE OLD FIRE CODE STANDARDS.
I DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING. OH, THE SECOND I DO NOW, I'M DROPPING IN, YOU KNOW, OVER A QUARTER PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.
I AGREE WITH DON. AND ANOTHER REASON I DON'T KNOW OF ANY PERSON DOWNTOWN HAS RUN THE BUSINESS THAT SAYS HEY, I GOT AN EXTRA 50 GRAND THIS YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO PUT A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IN IF YOU GUYS WILL KICK IN 50.
THEY JUST THEY JUST DON'T DO THAT 95, 25.
BUT WHATEVER IT IS. SO ARE WE GOOD TO ZERO THAT SET UP TO 50% ZERO 25.
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SO 20 YOU HAD RECOMMENDED ZERO ZERO BUT CITY COUNCIL HYPER.SO THEN I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK UP TO REAL ESTATE ADS.
MIKE, DO YOU HAVE THAT LINE NUMBER. BECAUSE EVERY TIME I CLICK, IT GIVES.
THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ISSUE HAS EVERYTHING BUT THE LINE THE THE LINE NUMBERS.
I JUST MEANT THE CELL NUMBER. OKAY.
SO THIS AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDED KEEPING AT THE FULL 66.
THIS IS AGAIN WE TRY TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ADVERTISING OR WHAT THAT SPECIAL ISSUE IS. SO THIS YEAR WE PUT AN AD IN THEIR INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE ISSUE? FOR THE MEGA SITE. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING TO ADVERTISE THE AVAILABLE LAND THAT WE HAVE AND TRY TO GET IT.
WHAT LINE ITEM ARE WE ON? IT'S SELF. IT'S ROW 50.
IT'S THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS ADS PEOPLE.
THIS HAS A BROADER REACH THAN THE COMMUNITY IMPACT AS WELL.
TO ME, MARKETING THAT KIND OF MARKETING IS, IS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH IT OR NOT.
YOU GOT SOME BUSINESSES THAT THEY JUST WHATEVER THE BUSINESS IS, THEY JUST DECIDE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHETHER WE SEE A RETURN OR NOT.
AND THEN AND THEN THEY DO IT. AND SOME PEOPLE TRACK IT AND THEY TRACK IT THE BEST THEY CAN.
ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF THE REAL ESTATE. WHAT WHAT'S THE VIEWERSHIP? I MEAN, IS IT IS IT 5000 NORMALLY.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S 25,000 EDITIONS FOR THIS.
IT'S A SPECIAL FINE PRINT SAYS SPECIAL EDITION.
I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE PRINT. SO IT'S A TWO PAGE AD FOR SPECIAL EDITIONS, PLURAL FOR THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS JOURNAL.
I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT IS THE CIRCULATION? IS THAT IS NORMAL? IS IT A 5000 CIRCULATION? AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BUMPS TO 25,000 ON SPECIAL EDITION? NO, IT'S JUST TYPICALLY LIKE IF YOU GET THE COMMUNITY IMPACT AND IT'S THE HEALTHCARE EDITION AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN, YOU MIGHT FLIP TO THAT SECTION AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT VERSUS THE OTHER STANDARD ISSUES WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, LET ME JUST KIND OF WHAT'S THE SALES LADY'S NAME THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING TO A COMMUNITY ABOUT? AND WHAT IS THE CIRCULATION OF THIS? IS IT COMMUNITY IMPACT? NO. HE WAS ASKING ABOUT COMMUNITY.
HE'S ASKING ABOUT WHO'S ASKING THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS JOURNAL.
I'D RATHER JUST PUT THE I HONESTLY, I'D RATHER PUT THE MONEY TO HAVE THE AD IN LOOPNET. LOOPNET. YEAH.
VERSUS AN AD. I JUST DON'T KNOW.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE UNDER 50.
YOU AGREE? DO YOU AGREE WITH SPEND $1,000 A MONTH FOR LOOPNET.
SORRY. JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION.
IS A SUBSCRIPTION REQUIRED TO PLACE AN AD, OR CAN WE JUST PLACE AN AD INDEPENDENTLY? I'M HAPPY TO REALLOCATE THE FUNDS IF YOU GUYS.
MY GUESS IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY HAVING TO HAVE A COSTAR ACCOUNT.
YOU CAN. THEY'RE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER NOW.
YOU CAN DO IT. I MEAN, COSTAR TECHNICALLY OWNS LOOPNET, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE. AS I SAID, IS THAT'S WHERE I TRY TO GO FOR FOR SALE BY OWNER SITUATION. OH, OKAY.
SO WE'D LIKE TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.
NO, THE ADS AREN'T FREE. OH, I THINK YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THIS. OH, THEY'RE NOT FREE.
OKAY, CAN WE ADD A BUDGET LINE FOR SOME NEW TECH, BY THE WAY? YES. IT'LL BE ON FOR THE MONDAY MEETING.
YOU DON'T WANT THE NEW TECH, I'M TELLING YOU NOW.
I STILL CAN'T EVEN GET IN MY FREAKING EMAIL.
AND I WANT TO GO THROW THIS THROUGH DAVID'S DOOR RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
DON'T TAKE THAT AS ANY ACT OF AGGRESSION FOR ANYONE IN THE ROOM.
SO ARE WE REDUCING THAT 6000 DOWN TO SOMETHING TO 0 TO 3 HOURS? FROM NOW. OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? WHERE ARE WE? THE SAME.
SAME. HOW MUCH? IT IS THE LINE 50.
OKAY. REAL ESTATE BUSINESS ADS.
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST FOR LOOPNET? 2000. SO WE'LL PUT 500, RIGHT? CAN YOU DO IT FOR 500? SO LET'S JUST ADD IT BACK IN WHEN WE HAVE A REAL NUMBER.
THERE YOU GO. OUR TIME WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. LET'S HAVE REAL NUMBERS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT QUOTES FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF.
LET ME ALSO PUT IN A RECOMMENDATION.
I SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS PUTTING LAND SALES ON THEIR PROPOSALS.
WELL I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FREE. IT'S FREE. I POST A LOT ON AND ON.
LOOPNET. YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR PROPERTY SHOW UP FIRST BEFORE ALL THE OTHER ONES. WHEN SOMEBODY SEARCHES FOR INDUSTRIAL NETWORKS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY. I SUSPECT IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN WELL, WE NEED. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE.
WHAT ARE WE EXITING OUT? CAN WE JUST MAKE A SUMMARY OF THAT.
SO YEAH I'M GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH.
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OKAY. SO FOR 6208 WHICH IS TRADE SHOWS AND CONFERENCES WE HAVE ZEROED OUT THE SELECT USA.SO WE KEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR THE CURRENT CUT I SHOULD SAY WE'VE ZEROED OUT SELECT.
YES. THE OTHER CHANGE WAS ZERO OUT BIO WHICH WAS IN LINE WITH THE COUNCIL CHANGES.
WE ZEROED OUT THE TDC ECONOMIC EXCELLENCE AWARD FROM 125 TO 0.
WE ZEROED OUT KOREA ZERO DOT WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT FROM 450 TO 0, ZEROED OUT QUARTERLY EDITOR EVENTS FROM 3000 TO 0.
HE WAS ALREADY THERE. GOING OVER THE THE CITY SAYING YEAH, CONCEPT DESIGN CONSULTING.
YEAH, I GOT THAT ONE. ROW 45, GRANT CONSULTING.
SORRY. ROW 44, COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
PLANNING, CONSULTING, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT ZEROED OUT. VICE CHAIR IS A PLACE.
THIS THING, I SWEAR. I KNOW YOU THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL. IT'S NOT. I KEEP ROLLING AND IT SKIPS IT. PLACE OR STAYED COMMUNITY IMPACT ADDS WAS REDUCED TO 3000 AND REALLOCATING THE HOLIDAYS AND MARKETING TO THE HOLIDAYS AND BUDGET LINE ITEM.
COMMUNITY BOOKS ZEROED OUT THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AT 49.
OKAY, DEAR. NOT THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AS TO COME BACK WITH FIGURES FOR LOOPNET AND POTENTIAL PAID ADVERTISEMENTS ON LINKEDIN, RIGHT? NINE 5857 WE KEPT THE INCENTIVE MANAGEMENT.
WE'LL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT WITH BLUE DOT SO THAT THAT NET SAVINGS IS IN THEIR DIGITAL TOURING SOFTWARE. ROW 58 WAS ZEROED OUT FROM 5000 SALES TAX TRAINING.
ROW 62 WAS CHANGED FROM 1700 TO 825 TO ACCOUNT FOR MY STATE REQUIREMENT.
ADDITIONAL TRAINING ROW 63 WAS ZEROED OUT FROM 1225 LEAD HUTTO AS PROPOSED FROM COUNCIL. THAT WAS ZEROED OUT.
ROSE, 71, ZEROED OUT FROM 1400.
WILCO EDP WENT BACK UP TO TEN FROM THE PROPOSED FIVE FROM COUNCIL UP.
ROW 75. GREATER AUSTIN ASIAN CHAMBER WAS ZEROED OUT FROM 400.
THE ROW 81 FIRE SUPPRESSION GRANT WAS ZEROED OUT FROM 100,000.
WE CAN GET TO THE SPONSOR SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, BUT WE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ZERO THAT OUT AS WELL.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE, GIVE US A GOOD AUDIENCE OR GOOD EXPOSURE, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. WE GET AN UPDATE.
WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM ANYONE REGARDING THIS BUDGET AND AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED.
HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL PLEASE.
BOARD MEMBER. THORNTON, A BOARD MEMBER.
CLOSING GAVEL. I MEAN, HEY, WE GOTTA MAKE IT WORK.
WE ALWAYS HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ON THERE, SO.
SPEAK NOW OR HOLD YOUR PIECE TILL MONDAY.
ALRIGHT, GOOD. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THE TIME IS 645.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.