OKAY. TIME IS 632 AND I CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED.
[(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on October 8, 2025.]
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HOW DO I DO CORPORATION TYPE A AND TYPE B TO ORDER.ROLL CALL PLEASE. CHAIR. CARLSON. PRESIDENT. SECRETARY.
MORALES. PRESENT. BOARD MEMBER. SNIDER HERE. BOARD MEMBER.
GONZALEZ HERE. BOARD MEMBER. THORNTON HERE. BOARD MEMBER.
PORTERFIELD HERE. BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS, HERE.
ALL ARE PRESENT. MY BAD, MY BAD. YEAH. WE ARE GOING TO SKIP THE PLEDGE.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A FLAG UP HERE. THAT'LL TAKE US ON TO ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO, SIR. GREAT. WE'LL TAKE ITEM FIVE ONE.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT? YES, PLEASE. I'M NOT READY YET. SO THIS ITEM IS COMING FORWARD BECAUSE AS WE'RE CONSIDERING, DURING THE BEST PATH FORWARD ON DEVELOPMENT ON THE OF THE EDC OWN PROPERTY.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THE CURRENT UTILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, PLANNED UTILITIES, STUFF THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT TO SEE ON BOTH THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES AND THE MEGA SITE.
SO GETTING A STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE THEY'RE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THOSE COUPLE OF ITEMS AS WELL.
SO MATT, TAKE IT AWAY. SO CAN I. YES. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO JOIN IT TO THE TABLE? YEAH. YOU CAN SHARE IF YOU WANT.
OH, LOOK, YOU EVEN HAVE MY NAME DOWN. YEAH. SORRY.
YOU HAVE TO SIT BY ME. THAT'S RIGHT. WE CAN PEEK OVER AND SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN DOWN.
IT. IT SHOULD BE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
HECTOR. SEE YOU ON THE TEAM. YES. WHAT? RECORD. NEED ONE? YEAH. YOU'RE ON THERE. THAT'S PART OF OUR STREAMLINING ATTEMPT, OF ALL THINGS.
IT'S A DISASTER THAT WE JUST YELL AT ONE GUY INSTEAD OF THREE, THAT SOMETHING'S NOT GOING RIGHT, AND HE ALREADY GETS YELLED OUT EVERY TIME HE COMES TO COUNCIL. SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE AN EASY PICK, RIGHT? YEAH, I ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATED. YOU'RE ALREADY YOU ALREADY GOT THE CROSSHAIRS ON YOU, SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST SIGN UP FOR MORE PEOPLE.
LITERALLY STAY IN LINE. THERE'S NOT A ATTACHMENT DOCUMENT FOR THIS.
OKAY. THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO JOIN THE TEAMS AND PUT UP A MAP.
SO IT'S EASIER TO TALK ABOUT. YES. THAT WAY. WHEN I'M OUT HERE.
LIKE. THAT. SO YOU WANT TO DO A COTTONWOOD FIRST, OR YOU WANT TO DO WHEREVER YOU'RE LOCATED. SO FOR THE COTTONWOOD LAND WILL YOU JUST OUTLINE IT WITH YOUR CURSOR TO JUST SO BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LINES.
YEAH. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY HERE.
TRACE IT. AND SO NONE OF THOSE GREEN LINES HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED YET.
I'M GONNA JUMP OVER TO. CAN YOU SEE IT? OKAY.
CAN YOU DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT NUMBERS FOR THOSE ARE? WE DON'T HAVE THESE HAVE NUMBERS YET. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE CIP NUMBERS.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CHANGE IS DUE TO MOVE THOSE PEOPLE UP.
IT WOULD FULL SCREEN. IS IT UP THERE? GOOD. I'M ON FULL SCREEN.
IF YOU CLICK ON VIEW, IT'LL GET US OUT OF THERE AND IT'LL JUST BE YOUR SCREEN.
VERY TALL. YEAH IT IS. HE IS FULL SCREEN. SO HE DIDN'T.
YEAH. HE'S NOT THE ONE THAT CAN GET THE VIEW THAT IT'S IT'S TEAMS RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT THERE. THAT'S IT. LET ME SEE IF YOU JUST PUT THE CONTENT.
THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO WHERE IT SAYS 17. PARENTHESES HERE.
HERE AND THEN 19 HERE. WE DO HAVE CIP PROJECTS.
I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
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I CAN PULL THAT UP FOR YOU AND GET YOU AN ANSWER, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT FIVE YEAR PLAN.YEAH. NO, I WAS JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE COST OF THIS.
BECAUSE I LIKE THE EDC TO BEAR THE COST OF THIS.
NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO DESIGN AND BUILD THE WATER TOWER, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY NEED TO HOLD THAT LAND FOR US SO THAT WE HAVE THE LAND STILL AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED THAT TWO ACRES.
THAT WATER TOWER ONLY SUPPLY THE GREEN. ALL THE GREEN? NO. NOT ALL. IT WOULD CONNECT INTO THE 60 THE EXISTING 16 INCH AS WELL.
BUT ALL THAT GROWTH IS JUST THE GREEN LINES. FOR THE MOST PART.
YEAH. I MEAN, WE WE DO HAVE SOME STUFF OVER HERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YES.
IT'S ALL I'M GOING WITH THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK WHENEVER WE PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL WE OUGHT TO SAY THAT THE PRO RATA SHARE OF THE TOWER IS SAY 90% OF IT FEEDS JUST EDC LAND. AND THEN THAT WAY THE EDC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OLD MEGA SITE AND WE PROBABLY PUT IN 60 MILLION BETWEEN WATER, WASTEWATER AND ROAD, BUT THE EDC DIDN'T PAY FOR ANY OF THAT.
PUBLIC PAID FOR THAT FOR EDC LAND. AND I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ON THE COUNCIL IN ORDER TO KEEP THE WATER RATES FROM GOING UP ANYMORE OR TO ACTUALLY DECREASE THEM. IS PUS LIKE THAT? THAT NEEDS TO BE.
HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR IT? ALL THAT TO WHERE THE RATEPAYERS DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT.
IT'S ALL DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THE COUNCIL MAY VOTE AGAINST THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT DISCUSSION IS COMING.
OKAY, SO WHILE I DON'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO THE WASTEWATER SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME CHUNK OF LAND, AND THEN WE CAN JUMP TO IF YOU WANT, WE CAN GO TO THE ESSER THAT MEDWAY'S ALREADY DONE HERE, OR WE CAN JUMP TO MEGA SITE AND THEN COME BACK.
I DON'T, I DON'T I WOULD JUST STICK WITH COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES AND LET'S EXECUTE THAT.
OKAY, SO YOU CAN SEE I'VE COVERED UP THIS LINE HERE, THIS 15 AND 21 INCH LINE WITH PURPLE, AND THEN THIS PIECE HERE WITH YELLOW THAT INDICATES THAT THIS.
I NEED TO UPDATE THIS. ACTUALLY, THIS IS WAS IN CONSTRUCTION. IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED BY LENNAR TO FEED THEIR PROJECT, WHICH IS. UP HERE, NORTH OF LIMMER LOOP. AND SO BUT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO CONVEY TO CONSTRUCT THE LINE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COTTONWOOD LAND PARALLEL TO 79. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START THE BORING TO GO UNDER 79 AND UNDER THE RAILROAD, SO THAT THEY CAN THEN CONNECT INTO THE CENTRAL TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THIS PURPLE STUFF IS ALL IN THE GROUND AS WE SIT TODAY.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S SHOWN IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE COTTONWOOD LAND.
SO DEVELOPER PAID FOR THAT. THE WELL PAID FOR THE UPSIZE.
LENNAR PAID FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. AND WE HAVE A COST SHARE AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR THE UPSIZING, PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL COST THAT INCURRED BECAUSE OF THE BORING UNDER 79.
SO HERE'S THE ESSER THAT WAS DONE. AND I'LL GO TO WATER FIRST.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE ON THE UPRR APPROVAL? YES, SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR LIKE NINE MONTHS NOW, I THINK WE'RE FINALLY, LIKE, RIGHT THERE. IN FACT, THEY TOLD US THAT WE WERE GOOD TO GO.
WE JUST NEEDED TO. BECAUSE. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE CITY WAS DOING ALL THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE UPR, AND SO UPR WOULD ASK ME FOR SOMETHING. THEN I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO LENNAR AND ASK THEM FOR SOMETHING, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SEND IT BACK TO ME. AND THEN I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO UBER. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS RIDICULOUS. WE'RE CUTTING OUT THE MIDDLEMAN.
EVERYBODY KEEP ME IN THE LOOP. BUT UPRR, HERE'S THE INTRODUCTION TO LEONARD.
LEONARD, HERE'S THE INTRODUCTION TO UPRR. YOU GUYS TALK DIRECTLY TO EACH OTHER.
JUST KEEP ME COPIED. SO WE STARTED ALL THAT BACK IN, LIKE, JANUARY.
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AND THE CITY HAD EXPEDITED EVERYTHING. WE GOT ALL THE BASIC APPROVALS IN PLACE, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN UPRR AND LEONARD'S ENGINEER.BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY ENTERED TO BACK IN JANUARY EXPIRED IN OCTOBER.
SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE THE CITY IS EXTENDING THAT TIMELINE WITH UPRR.
AND PART OF THAT EXTENSION PROCESS IS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $1,000, 1000, $1,000.
AND SO THAT CHECK WAS CUT TODAY. ACH. TODAY? YEAH.
SO WE DID AN ACH TODAY. SO THAT WAS THE LAST HURDLE.
I'VE HAD PROJECTS GET CANCELED BECAUSE UPR WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE.
AND I TALKED TO LEONARD AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO THEIR PROJECT MANAGER, AND SHE TOLD ME THAT ONCE THEY HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT FROM UPRR TWO MONTHS AND THEY'LL BE DONE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. SO IS IT USABLE IN TWO MONTHS? CAN WE TAP INTO THAT WASTEWATER LINE? THEY CAN FLUSH TOILETS AND DRAIN SINKS AND WASH CLOTHES AND ALL THINGS KIND OF OKAY.
THE LINE'S GOING TO BE FUNCTIONAL. AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE FLUSHING TOILETS WITHIN THE CAPACITY OF THE CENTRAL PLANT, WE'RE FINE. OKAY. ANSWER I'VE EVER HEARD. THAT'S DONE.
THE CENTRAL PARTS. DONE. DONE. THE CENTRAL PART.
OKAY. YEAH, BASICALLY. ALRIGHT. THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IN BETWEEN THERE.
BUT YEAH. SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE MAP THAT WE GAVE MIDWAY FOR THE WATER PLAN IN THERE.
ESSER. AND SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE PURPLE LINES, PURPLISH COLORED LINES.
THAT CAME FROM PAPE PAVED AUSTIN, WHICH IS MIDWAY'S ENGINEER.
SO THIS IS WHAT THEIR SCR IS GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO GO DO.
ANY QUESTION ABOUT WATER BEFORE I JUMP THE WASTEWATER? MOST OF YOU KNOW THE ESTIMATED COST OF THAT, BECAUSE DEVELOPERS ARE JUST GOING TO PAY LESS MONEY FOR THE LAND THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.
OKAY. SO HERE IS THE WASTEWATER MAP. AND AGAIN, THIS RED LINE IS ALREADY IN THE GROUND TODAY. AND SO ALL OF THESE GREEN LINES IS US WORKING WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO FLOW THEIR WASTEWATER FROM ALL OF THE LAND PARCELS THAT THEY CREATED.
ONE THING, WHILE I'M HERE ON THIS ESSER TO POINT OUT TO YOU GUYS, JUST SO YOU'RE IN THE LOOP, IS NOW KEEP IN MIND WE WROTE THIS ESSER I'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
SO WE WROTE IN HERE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THEIR FULL DEVELOPMENT UNTIL DECEMBER 2029, AFTER WE THOUGHT WE COULD FINISH THE EXPANSION OF THE CENTRAL PLANT.
CITY COUNCIL HAS SINCE DECIDED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPAND THE CENTRAL PLANT. INSTEAD, WE'RE GOING TO DIVERT FLOWS AROUND IT. SO WE THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE FASTER. BUT I HAVEN'T UPDATED THE CR SINCE THE NEW DIRECTION.
WE JUST GOT THAT CONTRACT APPROVED, I THINK IN LIKE THE LAST 1 OR 2 COUNCIL MEETINGS.
LOUIS COULDN'T COME ONLINE UNTIL JANUARY 2028.
NOW, KEEP IN MIND THOSE ARE THE BEST DATES THAT I CAN PROJECT.
EVERYTHING IS DYNAMIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR WATER AND OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM, BECAUSE AS THESE SCARS COME ON AND OTHERS EXPIRE, EVERYTHING IS CHANGING PRETTY MUCH DAILY. AND SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THIS AS BEST I CAN.
WORST CASE IS 2020 8TH JANUARY. YES. MAYBE SIX MONTHS TOO FAR BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A YEAR OF PERMITTING.
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AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIX MONTH BUILD. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT TOO FAR AWAY, AS LONG AS THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF BEING TOO FAR OFF OF WHAT SOMEONE WOULD NEED, I WOULD THINK, YEAH. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, SO OUR SCARS ARE ONLY GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS UNLESS UNLESS THE DEVELOPER PULLS SOME OTHER SORT OF PERMIT TO KEEP THEM GOING. SO THIS WAS DONE JULY 28TH, 2025.SO THAT MEANS THAT JANUARY ROUGHLY 28 OF 2026, THIS SER EXPIRES AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A NEW ONE.
I WASN'T HERE FOR ANY OF THAT. THAT PREDATES ME.
BUT WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CENTRAL PLANT, I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT HOW MUCH WASTEWATER WE SHOULD RESERVE FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY. THAT ORIGINAL SCR WAS LIKE 2000.
LOUISE. THIS NEW SCR IS ALMOST 4000 LOUISE. SO I JUST KIND OF PUT ALL THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT UTILITIES. IT'S DYNAMIC. AND EVERY TIME WE CHANGE THE SCR, THERE'S A CHANCE THEY'RE GOING TO COME ASK US FOR MORE CAPACITY.
AND WE'RE NOT BUILDING WE'RE NOT BUILDING CAPACITY.
WHEREAS BEFORE IT WOULD JUST EXPIRE YOU START ALL OVER AGAIN.
NOW THEY CAN GET IN, START MOVING, RESERVE IT.
BUT THEN SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING IT, THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY THE RESERVATION FEE BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TAKING 4000 OFFLINE WAITING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COTTONWOOD BEFORE I JUMP TO MEGA SITE? ALL THE EXCITING STUFF, Y'ALL. ALL THE THINGS YOU DON'T SEE BUT ARE SO NECESSARY.
ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE THIS IS THE MEGA SITE.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO THIS IS THE 79 WATER PLAN.
OUR WATER LINE THAT IS NOW DONE. IT'S 100% DONE AND ACCEPTED.
AND WE PUT WATER LINE UNDER THAT AS WELL. THAT IS DONE.
AND WE DO HAVE CIP SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE CIP FOR THESE LINES, BUT THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.
BUT I CAN GET YOU GUYS COST NUMBERS. NOW, THIS LINE HERE MARKED IN YELLOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO IS BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING THIS TOWER AND THE PROJECT THAT WAS IN PROGRESS WHEN I GOT HERE.
SO WE'VE COMBINED THIS PROJECT IN WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT THOSE ARE STILL IN DESIGN.
SO THEY'RE IN DESIGN, NOT IN CONSTRUCTION. I SAID ALL THAT REALLY FAST WITH THEIR QUESTIONS.
OKAY. I'LL JUMP TO WASTEWATER. SEE, JIM, WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE ALL THE COST WE'VE SUNK IN ALL THIS LAND THAT THAT'S WHY WE GOT IN THE WATER RATE INCREASES IS BECAUSE.
IF WE SELL THIS LAND TO CHEAP, WE'VE BASICALLY JACKED EVERYBODY'S PRICES UP AND SUBSIDIZED THE LAND TO WHERE AT SOME POINT, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER COMES IN PROVIDES ENOUGH OF A BENEFIT FOR THE INVESTMENT.
BUT YEAH, WE KIND OF SET NOT NOT NOT SET UP FOR A FAILURE.
BUT IT'S SET UP FOR DIFFICULTY. YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A PERSON COME IN AND GO.
SO IT'S LIKE AT SOME POINT WE I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AND GO.
THE MINIMUM WE CAN SPEND OR THE MINIMUM WE CAN SELL IS X PRICE BECAUSE WE FACTOR THE ROAD, THE WATER, THE WASTEWATER, ALL THAT IN. I MEAN, ANYTHING UNDER WHAT WE HAVE IN IT, WE EITHER SCREWED UP AND DO A BUNCH OF MONEY AT SOMETHING THAT THE MARKET WON'T SUPPORT, OR WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE LAND AND GIVING IT AWAY TOO CHEAP.
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OKAY, SO BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT HERE AND SEE THE NOT SO GOOD NEWS.SO THIS FIRST PURPLE LINE RIGHT HERE IS UNDER THE SPINE ROAD.
IT IS DONE. OKAY. THE THIS SECOND PURPLE LINE THAT IS UNDER HERE.
AND THEN IT COMES OVER AND DOWN AND ALL THIS.
SO THAT'S THE WAY I'M JUST KEEPING THE MAP. BUT BASICALLY INSTEAD OF THAT, THIS PURPLE LINE NOW FOLLOWS THIS CREEK TO HERE FOLLOWS COUNTY ROAD 132 AND THEN COMES UP INTO THE MEGA SITE LAND WHERE WE HAVE A LIFT STATION.
THAT PIPELINE IS ALL IN THE GROUND. WE'VE DONE START UP ON THE LIFT STATION.
SO WE'RE JUST DOING FINAL TESTING AND CALIBRATING PUMPS AND MAKING SURE THAT ENCORE IS HAPPY, AND THEN THE LIFT STATION WILL BE FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
SO ALL OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE 100% DONE AND BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
NOW THIS IS WHERE I GET TO BE SOMEWHAT THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS.
SO JUST FOR. I SEE. I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, I THINK.
AND SO WE CONTINUED FORWARD WITH THAT DESIGN.
THE ONLY REASON WHY THE LIFT STATION WAS NEEDED TO HANDLE ALL THIS WASTEWATER FLOW IS THAT ROUGHLY IN THIS AREA, THERE'S A GRADE BREAK. SO EVERYTHING FROM HERE DRAINS EAST AND EVERYTHING FROM HERE DRAINS WEST.
SO THE LIFT STATION WILL BE IN PLACE. IT'LL BE FUNCTIONAL AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER LINE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONLINE.
I BELIEVE THE SCHEDULE IS LATE 26, SO THAT LIFT STATION WILL ONLY BE USED FOR MAYBE, MAYBE A YEAR, AND THEN WE WILL DECOMMISSION IT AND GET RID OF IT. SO WHEN YOU SAY DECOMMISSION, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PHYSICALLY TAKE OUT THE STRUCTURE.
THIS NEW INTERCEPTOR. BUT, YEAH, ALL OF THE PUMPS, ALL THAT ELECTRICAL, ALL THAT STUFF WOULD COME.
THAT'S KIND OF MY WHERE I WAS GOING TO IS WHAT CAN WE SALVAGE OUT OF THAT? AND. WELL, SO WHAT I SAID IS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ALL THE PUMPS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT MONEY SO THAT WE CAN USE THOSE MOTORS AND PUMPS IN OTHER PLACES. RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE IN MIND RIGHT NOW TO USE THOSE, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE THEM ON HAND TO RECOUP SOME OF THE RECOUP SOME OF THE BEST.
BUT YOU CAN REUSE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A SCHEDULED FAILURE THAT HAPPENS.
COUNCILWOMAN HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN WASTED ON THAT? OKAY. I MEAN, I CAN GIVE YOU THE DESIGN AND COST THAT MADE SENSE BACK WHEN ALL THESE DEALS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, BUT THEN WHEN THE SPINE ROAD GOT BEHIND. THIS IS HOW I REMEMBER IT.
IN MY VIEW, ONCE THE SPINE GOT BEHIND, EVERY OTHER PROJECT GOT BEHIND AND BECAUSE THE SPINE GOT BEHIND, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GET 2 OR 3 YEARS, AND NOW IT'S GETTING BASICALLY HARDLY ANYTHING, BECAUSE IT WON'T EVEN GET USED BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING READY TO BREAK GROUND.
AND SO BY THE TIME THAT STUFF BREAKS GROUND AND GETS BUILT AND COMES ONLINE, THE OTHER ONE'S IN.
SO. LIKE 300 GRAND. TYPICALLY. WHAT? CONTRACTS FOR SCUPPER BATTLE WITH HIGH WATER COSTS. AND IT'S EVERY DOLLAR.
IT'S. SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S GOING TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'LL GET US ALL READY TO GO THURSDAY NIGHT.
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YOU GOTTA KNOW WHEN TO PULL A TRIGGER. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITH THE ROADS. YOU CAN'T BUILD THREE ROADS AT THE SAME TIME. THEY'RE ALL IMPACTING THE SAME PEOPLE. YOU GOTTA DO ONE AND THEN YOU DON'T GO START BUILDING ANOTHER ROAD WHEN YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU BUILD THAT ONE, YOU'VE CHANGED ALL THE FLOWS, AND IT'S WHEN WE GET INTO A HURRY AND START DOING ALL THIS. THEN YOU COME BACK TWO YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE LIKE, JESUS.I MEAN, WE'RE I'LL JUST I'LL JUST START SHOPPING AND DINING IN OTHER PLACES.
I JUST WON'T SHOW MY. YEAH, THIS WON'T BE ON YOU.
YEAH. GO DO THESE EIGHT PROJECTS ALL AT ONCE.
AND SOME OF US ARE LIKE, WELL, TIME OUT OF IT.
AND THEN WE VOTE TO GO DO IT, AND THEN WE CAN'T COME BACK AND COMPLAIN WITH YOU.
WE GOTTA COME BACK AND PLAY WITH OURSELVES. SO WE GOTTA DO FREAKING BETTER JOB.
SO THAT WAS A QUICK RUNDOWN. I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED ME TO COVER.
I KNOW I THREW A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT I'M.
I'M HERE ALL NIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CAN YOU EMAIL THIS TO US JUST FOR THAT DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY? YEAH. LIKE I SAID, IT. WASN'T AS SCARY AS I THOUGHT IT WAS.
NO, NO. LIKE THIS WASTEWATER LINE IS IN THE GROUND.
SKYBOX HAS ALREADY, LIKE, WE'VE ALREADY PUT STUB OUTS TO THEM.
THEY CAN CONNECT IN. THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS SIDE THAT'S HOLDING SKYBOX UP.
THE ONLY THING ON THIS WHOLE PROJECT THAT WOULD HOLD ANYBODY UP IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE JUST NOW DOING START UP ON THE LIFT STATION, BUT WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH THE LIFT STATION UNTIL HALLOWEEN. AND SO.
AND THERE'S NOBODY OVER HERE WHO WOULD USE IT. SO WE'RE NOT HOLDING ANYBODY UP.
NO BAD NEWS OR JUST NEWS. WELL, JAMES MAY BE THE RESULT OF THE NEWS BEING BAD, BUT FOR US, IT'S JUST I MEAN, I GET TO BE THE BEARER OF ALL KINDS OF NEWS.
AND SO I'M LIKE THIS IN MY MIND. I DON'T LIKE WASTING MONEY EVEN IF IT'S NOT MY MONEY.
AND SO, LIKE WHEN I SEE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN A LIFT STATION AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RIP IT RIGHT BACK OUT IN TEN MONTHS, EVEN THOUGH I'M SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SALVAGE AS MUCH OF THE OF THE EQUIPMENT AS POSSIBLE. I STILL KNOW THAT THERE'S LOST MONEY THERE.
CAN I MAKE A REQUEST WHEN YOU SEND THE MAPS OUT, CAN WE GET THE CIP NUMBERS FOR THOSE WATER PROJECTS INCLUDED SO WE KNOW WHAT'S WHAT? MIGHT AS WELL PUT THAT ALL IN ONE EMAIL VERSUS.
THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR. DIRECTOR. OKAY.
THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. MR.. PREVIOUS EDC WAS LIKE, HEY, WE ONLY SPENT 20 MILLION ON A MEGA SITE.
AND I'M LIKE, I TOLD AARON, THEN I'M LIKE, NO, NO, NO, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU FORGOT THE I FORGOT THE STUFF IN THE GROUND THAT WAS EXPENSIVE. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT $40 MILLION.
SO I'M LIKE, WE'RE ABOUT 60 OR 70 MILLION INTO THIS THING.
BACK TO YOU, JENNY. YEAH. THANK YOU. MATT. I'LL TAKE US.
I GUESS IT COULD BE A FIRST. THAT WAY SHE CAN GO HOME.
I DON'T, I DON'T MIND. I'M GOING TO. OKAY, WELL, CHRISTINA DON'T CARE THEN.
YEAH, I'M GOING TO STAY FOR 7.2 AS WELL, SO. OH, OKAY.
WELL, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. OH, YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S DEBATABLE.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ALRIGHT.
THAT'LL TAKE US SIX ONE TO STAFF WILL PROVIDE UPDATES ON CRITICAL PROJECTS FOR THE MEGA SITES PROJECT, WINDSOR COUNTY ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE RECAPS AND UPCOMING EVENTS. THANK YOU.
SO SOME EVENT RECAPS FOR Y'ALL. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT ON THE SPINE ROAD OR MEGA SITE.
SOME OF THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT LOTS OF EVENTS GOING ON.
SO WE HAD THE HEART OF EVENT ONE BACK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.
SO RIGHT AFTER THE LAST MEETING OF THE BOARD GOT SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND LOTS OF QUESTIONS AROUND CITY SUPPORT FOR DOWNTOWN PROGRESS. SO HOW THAT WAS REFLECTIVE OF PRETTY ENGAGED AUDIENCE.
THE BOARD PRESIDENT WAS IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.
AND SHE'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN PART TWO FOR THAT.
THEN DAY AFTER THAT, ON THE 10TH, WE HAD THE CHAMBER LUNCHEON AND THE TSTC EXPANSION RIBBON CUTTING.
SO THEY ADDED THEY WERE ABLE TO DOUBLE THE CAPACITY FOR THEIR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING PROGRAMS. OVER HERE AT THE, THE EXISTING FACILITY. SO WE WERE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THAT ON THE SAME DAY.
WHAT WAS THE FACILITY? IT'S AT TSTC. IT'S AT UCEC.
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THERE ARE, I DON'T KNOW ON THAT, THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM, LIKE TWICE THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM.IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE A MAMMOTH, BUT.
YES. YEAH, I'D SAY THERE'S PROBABLY AT LEAST 20, MAYBE TWO DOZEN STATIONS, BUT THEY'RE MIXED USE SOME PLUMBING, SOME MECHANICAL, SOME AC ELECTRICAL. THERE, THERE IS A, AN ITEM COMING UP IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION THAT WOULD IF PASSED, IT WOULD PROVIDE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO TSTC.
SO IF THAT GOES THROUGH, I'M SURE WE'LL BE IMPACTED.
RIGHT NOW, BOTH SIDES OF. WELL THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY, NINE OVER 11, WE HAD THE POWER BREAKFAST, AND IT WAS A SPECIAL NINE OVER 11 CEREMONY. POWERFUL WAY TO START THE DAY.
REALLY IMPACTFUL. THE 15TH, WE HAD THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
MEETING. AND THE 18TH, WE HAD OUR DELEGATION FROM SOUTH KOREA.
WE HOSTED TEN BUSINESSES, THEIR CEO AND C LEVEL LEADERSHIP.
AND THEN THEY DID A TOUR OF SOY ON AWA OVER IN INNOVATION PARK.
THAT'S A SOUTH KOREAN AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIER. AUTOMOTIVE COMPONENT SUPPLIER.
19TH. WE HAD THE WILCO EDP BOARD MEETING. OUR INTERNATIONAL DIRECTOR, IG IS NO LONGER WITH WILCO EDP. SHE HAS STARTED HER OWN CONSULTING BUSINESS.
SO THERE WAS A FAREWELL TO HER. AND THEN ALSO AN OVERVIEW OF THE CRM THAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED BY WILCO, EDP TO BETTER MANAGE OUR LEAD FLOW AND FOLLOW UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
23RD, WE HAD OUR FINAL BIZ THRIVE EVENT THAT HAD A MARKETING FOCUS.
OUR STAFF RECEIVED A THANK YOU CARD FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS ALSO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY IMPACTFUL THING. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS QUICK TO CRITICIZE AND GIVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT IT TAKES QUITE A BIT TO GET SOMEBODY TO GIVE YOU POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD. ON THE 25TH, WE HAD OUR I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE CENTRAL TEXAS COMMUNITY FOUNDATION LEGACY LUNCHEON AS A GUEST OF ANYONE DOESN'T KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE OCCUPYING PART OF THE MULTITENANT BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT ACROSS FROM SO THEY'LL BE MOVING INTO THAT. I BELIEVE THEY'RE PLANNING ON SPRING OPENING.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. ACROSS FROM WHERE? ACROSS FROM HOOKY ENTERTAINMENT. THERE'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING THERE, SO THEY'LL BE ON THE SOUTH END OF THAT BUILDING.
SO THERE WAS A GREAT LIST OF PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES AND AWARD NOMINEES.
SO IT WAS REALLY GREAT NETWORKING OPPORTUNITY.
AND TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH A AN UPCOMING NEW BUSINESS.
IN SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE HAD PANERA BREADS GRAND OPENING OVER IN HANSON'S CORNER.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE YET, PLEASE DO. IT WAS A GREAT SHOWING.
THERE WAS A LADY THAT DROVE 20 MINUTES, SO I'M GUESSING AROUND GEORGETOWN? POSSIBLY. I WOULD NOT THINK THEY HAVE ONE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
SO SHE SAID SHE DROVE 20 MINUTES TO COME PICK UP FOOD FOR HER ENTIRE OFFICE.
SO IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE HAVING A VERY SUCCESSFUL FIRST WEEK, ACTUALLY.
SO IT WAS A HARD OPEN. I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE OPEN FULL, FULL SCHEDULE.
BROKE BREAD AT 9 A.M., 6 A.M. AND BROKE, BUT WE BROKE THE BREAD AT 9 A.M.
SO THEY DON'T GET UP AS EARLY AS THE PUBLIC DOES.
HE'S A BREAD GOOD. I DIDN'T EAT IT. THERE'S LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT TOUCHED IT BY THE TIME WE BROKE IT, SO. OCTOBER 1ST AND SECOND. I ATTENDED THE AUSTIN REGIONAL MANUFACTURING ASSOCIATES ASSOCIATION STATE OF MANUFACTURING CONFERENCE AND EXPO. THANKS TO KEVIN FINCHER.
OVER AT ARMA, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND AS A VIP AND GOT TO MEET THEM NEW BUSINESSES, NEW TO ME CONTACTS AT BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD SESSIONS AND GOOD CONNECTIONS THERE.
IT'S ON THE CORNER OF LIVE OAK AND EAST STREET.
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WE'LL ALSO BE LEVERAGING OR PROMOTING HALL OF FAME FOR THE CATERING COMPONENT.AND THEN ON OCTOBER 29TH THROUGH THE 30TH, WE HAVE THE TDC ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I WILL BE COMPLETING THE FUTURE LEADERS TRAINING PROGRAM AT THAT SESSION.
SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THAT DONE. OCTOBER 5TH, WE HAVE A CAREER EXPLORATION DAY EVENT THAT'S BEING LED BY THE CHAMBER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EDC AND HUTTO ISD, AS WELL AS OUR HIGHER ED PARTNERS.
PLANNING TO HAVE 50 INDUSTRY PARTNERS REPRESENTED THERE WITH SOME ENGAGING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE EIGHTH GRADERS TO GET THEM INTERESTED IN THE CTE PATHWAYS IN HIGH SCHOOL. YOU KNOW WHO THOSE INDUSTRY PARTNERS ARE? WE HAVE A BIG SPREADSHEET. I CAN SHARE WHAT WE'VE GOT SO FAR.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE. WHAT'S THAT? YOU HAVE A DATE? NO. NOT YET. I NEED TO CHECK WITH, LIKE, MOMS, AND THEY CAN GET IT OUT, BUT ALSO WANT TO AVAILABLE STAKEHOLDERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE TALKING REALLY LOW OVER THERE. IT'S A BIG TABLE.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO RAISE THE VOLUME. NO, MIKE'S IN HERE.
EARTH, I CAN. I CAN TALK LOUDER. IF YOU NEED TO MOVE DOWN HERE, WILL THAT BE YOUR INVITE? THAT GOES DOWN? YES. YEAH. AS SOON AS WE HAVE A DATE FIRMED UP, WE'LL BE SURE TO SHARE THAT OUT, BECAUSE I THINK THE EXPECTATION WAS OCTOBER TO DATE.
WITH ALL THE. WHEN DID IT GET COMPLETED? IT WAS ACCEPTED BY COUNCIL IN JULY.
I GUESS FOR ME, I'M LIKE, I. FOR ONE, I'M THANKFUL I DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THAT.
YEAH. THAT TAYLOR NO, I GOT THAT. I'M JUST LIKE, WE'RE WAITING ON WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
LIKE WHO'S A COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT WE'RE WAITING ON TO. WE'RE WE'RE A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
THE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE LAND UNDER CONTRACT TYPICALLY LIKE TO BE OUT THERE.
SO, I MEAN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO PICK A DATE TO GET ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON BOARD, WHY DON'T WE JUST PICK A DATE AND THEN THEY'LL I'M SURE LIVE OAK AND THOSE GUYS CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO. YEAH, I'M SURE THEY WILL. OCTOBER.
NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER. DECEMBER. AND PRETTY SOON WE'RE LIKE, HEY, A YEAR AGO WE COMPLETED THIS ROAD AND EVERYBODY, WE'RE HAPPY. I MEAN, THE THE ROAD DELAY TOOK TWO YEARS.
NOW WE'RE DELAYING THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA. WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING SUIT.
IT'S FINE. WE'RE FOLLOWING SUIT. IT'S ALL GOOD.
BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GET OUT THERE WHEN IT'S 105 DEGREES AND DIG UP A FIRST.
SO I'LL SHARE THAT OUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT UP.
AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. YEP. ITEM SEVEN ONE DISCUSS.
CONSIDER. ACTION. APPROVE THE CORPORATION FINANCIAL REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 2025.
I'LL SIT OVER HERE SO EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO TURN AROUND.
EVERYONE, I SENT THE FINANCIALS OUT YESTERDAY.
IT WAS A TIGHT MONTH ON CLOTHES FOR US, SO I APOLOGIZE THAT IT WAS SHORT NOTICE.
YOUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE ENDING THE YEAR IS 8.5 MILLION.
THAT CAME TO ABOUT $16,000 THIS YEAR. OTHER THAN PAYMENT.
SO WE MADE 16 GRAND OFF THE CO-OP EDC DID? YES.
LOSING MONEY. THAT'S A TOUGH PROJECT. THANK YOU.
THE AUDITORS COME OUT IN DECEMBER THIS YEAR. I THINK THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENT THAT IS NOT REFLECTED ON HERE IS THERE IS ONE SALES TAX INCENTIVE PAYMENT THAT'S KIND OF IN LIMBO RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHICH BUSINESSES ARE PART OF THAT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT.
SO THE 8.5 MILLION FUND BALANCE YOU'RE LOOKING AT WILL BE REDUCED BY ABOUT 140,000.
AND WE'LL SEE. ONCE WE FIND OUT HOW THAT SHAKES OUT, WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HEARING NONE. WE ARE ON ITEM 72. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
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OH, YEAH. SORRY. WELL, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE DID IT.AND, I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, DO WE REALLY NEED TO APPROVE THEM? IT'S. IT'S FOR ACCEPTANCE, BASICALLY. ACCEPTING MOTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 2025.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY SECRETARY PERALEZ, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS.
OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL.
BOARD MEMBER. GONZALEZ. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER. CARTON.
OKAY. CHAIR. CARLSON. HI. SECRETARY MORALES, A BOARD MEMBER.
SNIDER. A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS, A BOARD MEMBER.
PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. NOW SEVEN.
EXCUSE ME. DISCUSS IT. CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HDC DASH 2025, DASH 144 TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE POLICIES OF THE CORPORATION, INCLUDING CORPORATE CREDIT CARD USE POLICY AND ACH PAYMENT POLICY.
SO THIS ONE'S COMING BACK TO Y'ALL. IT WAS UP FOR REVIEW AT THE LAST MEETING.
THE DIRECTION WAS TO HAVE THE CITY POLICIES INCORPORATED INTO THE EXISTING EDC POLICIES, BRING BACK THE RED LINE FOR COMPARISON AND CONSIDERATION FOR ACCEPTANCE OR APPROVE.
SO WE LIMITED IT TO ONE PERSON WHO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO'S GOING TO HOLD THE CREDIT CARD.
WE ADDED. ACH, WE TOOK WE MODIFIED THE ACH TO TAKE AWAY THE FIVE DAY REVIEW PROCESS, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST EVERYWHERE WHERE THE POLICIES WERE INCONSISTENT.
WE REPLACED THE NEW POLICY LANGUAGE. ANYWHERE WHERE THEY WERE SILENT, WE ADDED ANY POLICY LANGUAGE.
THERE'S A BLACK LINE COMPARISON. ALSO, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO MAKE TO POLICIES, WE CAN DO IT NOW UNDER THE SAME LANGUAGE, BUT OTHERWISE. OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 2025 144 AS PRESENTED. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY SECRETARY MORALES, TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER. SNYDER. BOARD MEMBER.
MORRIS. A BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD. CHAIR. CARLSON.
A FORMER MEMBER. HORTON A SECRETARY. MORALES A BOARD MEMBER.
GONZALEZ. HI. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU.
THAT WASN'T CONTENTIOUS ENOUGH, BY THE WAY. NORMALLY WE GO AFTER FINANCE OR SOMETHING.
OH, ENGINEERING'S BACK UP. WE'LL GO AHEAD. WE'LL SAVE IT FOR THAT.
THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT, THAT'LL TAKE US TO SEVEN.
THREE DISCUSSING. CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESTAURANT AND RETAIL INCENTIVES POLICY.
I DID PROVIDE A FORM THAT I VAGUELY REFERENCED AT THAT JOINT MEETING.
IT'S THE ACTUAL APPLICATION DRAFT. SO THERE WERE SOME YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREAS IN THERE.
SEEKING FEEDBACK ON THOSE SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN.
THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED PROGRAM PARAMETERS AROUND TARGET INDUSTRY SECTORS AS WELL AS MORE SPECIFIC USE TYPES FOR RESTAURANT AND RETAIL. THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROPOSALS COME FROM OBVIOUSLY OUR REALLY SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH THAT IS SOCIAL MEDIA LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY ON THAT. BUT THEN ALSO PARTIALLY OUR VOID ANALYSIS THAT WE USE AND PLACE OUR AI TO SHOW US WHERE RESIDENTS ARE LEAVING TO GO SEEK ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANTS, SHOPPING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT HELPS INFORM THAT DECISION AS WELL. SO ANY FEEDBACK.
I WILL ALSO SHARE THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE JOINT MEETING AROUND AN INDUSTRIAL.
WE WOULD HAVE A RESTAURANT RETAIL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, SMALL BUSINESS.
AND THEN I DO THINK PROBABLY SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL AND WORKFORCE, WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE EXPANSION AS WELL, KIND OF WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS OR TRIGGERS WOULD BE QUALIFIERS.
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AND THEN CAITLIN AND I. SORRY. 60 MORALES AND I WERE TASKED WITH WORKING TOGETHER ON KIND OF CREATING A FIRST DRAFT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE FULL BOARD FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT.I THINK THAT WHAT THE WHY WE HAD TO SORT OF COMPARTMENTALIZE THESE THINGS IS THAT YOU WANT TO ASK VERY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS OF AN INDUSTRIAL USER RATHER THAN A RETAIL USER. WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONCERNS IN DIFFERENT SECTORS.
SO I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THE FORM IS GOING TO WORK IS THAT IT'S SORT OF A CONCEPT OR A.
IF THEN KIND OF SITUATION. YES. NO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
AND SO BASED ON WHAT THEIR ANSWER, WHAT TYPE OF USER THEY ARE, THEY'LL GET DIFFERENT QUESTIONS RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT EVERYBODY ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER FORMS. YEAH.
AND SO OUR TASK I THINK IS GOING TO BE MORE WHAT ARE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ASK TO THAT THOSE PEOPLE AND DECIDE IF IT'S A USE THAT WE REALLY WANT, AND THEN PUT THAT TOGETHER WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, TOO, OF DOING A FORMAL COMMUNITY SURVEY TO GET VERY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK.
SO I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE TEAM ABOUT HOW TO POSE THOSE QUESTIONS IN A WAY SO THAT WE'RE GETTING REAL SPECIFIC FEEDBACK, NOT JUST, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT? BUT VERY SPECIFICALLY, WHAT RESTAURANTS DO YOU WANT? WHAT RETAILERS DO YOU WANT? WHAT ENTERTAINMENT VENUES DO YOU WANT? AND WRITING EXAMPLES. SO YOU WISH WE HAD AVAILABLE.
YEAH. SO WOULD YOU VERY SPECIFIC THROUGH A FOCUS GROUP OR ARE WE PROBABLY POST IT ON OUR WEBSITE? SORRY. CITY WEBSITE, EDC WEBSITE AND THEN ALSO SOCIALS AND THEN INCLUDE IT IN THE NEWSLETTER THAT COMES OUT THE NEWS EMAIL.
SO I THINK ANYTHING INVOLVING DINING WILL SOLICIT A LOT OF RESPONSES.
IT SEEMS LIKE IF IT'S FOOD RELATED OR ALCOHOL, THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT FROM EVERYBODY.
BUT IF YOU GO OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT TAILS OFF PRETTY QUICKLY.
LIKE IF WE ASK FOR A ROAD, WE GET LIKE 30 RESPONSES.
BUT I HAVE A FEELING IF WE ASK LIKE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, BUFFALO WILD WINGS IS COMING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MIX WAS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY WAS POSITIVE ON BUFFALO WILD WINGS.
IT'S TRASH NOW, BUT PLUCKERS IS THE PLACE TO GO TO.
AND SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IN A MEETING THAT I FORGOT THE CITY AND IN NORTH DALLAS, BUT THEY DID A DEAL TO WHERE IT WAS LIKE, LOOK, WE DON'T JUST WANT ITALIAN. THERE'S ONLY ONE ITALIAN PLACE WE WANT AND BOOM, WE WANT THIS ONE.
AND SO THEN THEY JUST KIND OF FOCUSED ON GETTING THAT ONE USE.
KNOWING 80%, ONE AT 20% ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN ANYWAY.
THEY WENT FOR THAT INSTEAD OF HEY, WE WANT ITALIAN.
AND THEN WE BRING ITALIAN. AND EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, THAT THAT PLACE IS TERRIBLE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED. WE WANTED THIS OVER HERE. IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE CAN'T MAKE YOU HAPPY, SO YOU STILL WON'T MAKE ANYBODY HAPPY. BUT I THINK IT'S A WAY FOR US TO HANG OUR HAT THAT YOU SAID YOU WANTED STEAK AND YOU SAID LONGHORNS OR TEXAS ROADHOUSE, AND YOU GOT ONE OF THEM. SORRY YOU DIDN'T GET THE OTHER ONE. BUT LIKE, WE KNOW THE THING WITH GROCERY STORES, IT'S GOT TO BE HEAVY OR NOTHING. BUT IF IT'S NOTHING, THEN WE'LL TAKE AN OLDIES.
BUT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT A TRADER JOE'S. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRADER JOE'S AS LONG AS WE HAVE THIS. SO I THINK TO GET THE RESPONSES THAT AREN'T FOOD RELATED, I THINK CAITLIN'S SUGGESTION WAS ABOUT FOCUSING ON JOBS I THINK IS A GOOD ONE, ESPECIALLY IN THE CURRENT ECONOMY.
I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT. I THINK INSTEAD OF SAYING, WHAT TYPE OF USERS DO YOU WANT TO SEE? WHAT KIND OF JOBS DO YOU WANT AVAILABLE HERE? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO WORK? THAT'S THE IDEA, BECAUSE IF YOU ANSWER THIS, YOU GET A FOOD QUESTION. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE WE TALKED TO IN THE MEETING ABOUT LIKE OKAY, WE SAY INDUSTRIAL.
WHAT TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL DO WE WANT TO BE MAKING LEAD BATTERIES BECAUSE THAT'S AN INDUSTRIAL JOB. OR DO WE WANT MORE LIKE HIGH TECH TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE WEARING SHORTS AND POLOS? IT'S AIR CONDITIONED AND THEY'RE THEY'RE OPERATING MILLION DOLLAR MACHINES.
YOU CAN NOT NECESSARILY GUARANTEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
IS THAT WHAT WE WANT GOING FORWARD? BECAUSE FIVE YEARS AGO WE WOULD TAKE ANYTHING.
NOW MAYBE THERE'S A THERE'S A THOUGHT THAT WE DON'T WE'RE NOT WE DON'T WANT TO CHASE AFTER ALL THE LOW SKILLED JOBS WHO WANT HIGHER PAYING, HIGH SKILLED. SO I THINK OUR CITY ENGINEER TO GET MORE BAD NEWS.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY. I THINK LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT TYPE OF JOBS DO YOU WANT? AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE WORKING THERE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO EAT? YEAH. THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. ORDER YOUR LUNCH. I GET THIS JOB BASED ON THAT.
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YOUR HIGH PAYING JOB. IT COULD ALSO GO TO ENTERTAINMENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT REALLY CAN SPAN OUT, BRANCH OUT TO ALL THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW.NO. I THINK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT DAYCARE IS ACTUALLY, I THINK, A PRETTY SOLID ONE WHERE IT'S A FOCUS ON WHAT ARE INSTEAD OF ASKING PEOPLE WHAT BUSINESSES THEY WANT, WHAT THAT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE REALLY LIMITED TO SOMETHING LIKE FOOD THAT THEY THINK ABOUT REGULARLY. JUST WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR FAMILY NEEDS ARE? AND RATHER HAVE A DAYCARE NEXT TO MY WORK? I'D RATHER HAVE A DAYCARE NEXT TO MY WORK, SO I'M FIVE MINUTES AWAY, AS OPPOSED TO BEING 20 MINUTES AWAY OR LONGER AND HAVING SOMEONE ELSE TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
DO WE HAVE A DAYCARE? AND I THINK HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, THOUGH.
LIKE IT'S IT'S EASY TO THROW OUT ALL THESE THINGS.
AND DAYCARES AREN'T GOING TO BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO NOT JOHNSON DAYCARES. YOU CAN STILL INCENTIVIZE.
I THINK DAYCARES ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ONE THAT HAS TEN PEOPLE, LIKE A LA PETITE OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO NOW, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GO TO A JOB BECAUSE NAVIGATING THROUGH TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT.
AND SO AND THE DAYCARE MAY BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS LOOKED AT THINGS THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, FOR INSTANCE. AND THEY HAVE FOUND THAT IF IF THIS IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT HOUSE A SHORTAGE IN HOUSING IS PREVENTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM OCCURRING, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AS AN EXAMPLE TO BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT LINK TO SHOW THAT.
SO IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THE SAME THING WOULD APPLY TO, SAY, A DAY CARE OR SOME OTHER.
OTHER YOU SERVICE. RIGHT. IF THE CIRCUMSTANCES IS THAT WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO WORK OVER HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PLACES FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO GO, AND SO THAT THOSE WOULD BE THE KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT I THINK WE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION AS TO BEING APPROPRIATE WAYS TO USE THE FUNDS. AND ONE THING I THINK HE BROUGHT UP, I DON'T KNOW, IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE MONEY INVOLVED IN IT.
LIKE I ALWAYS GIVE YOU MONEY. ONE THING ABOUT IF IT'S MAYBE THE EDC CAN THEN WORK WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF OKAY, THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR EDC, CAN YOU GUYS CAN WE STREAMLINE THIS AND GET THIS PROJECT THROUGH AND TO POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SHAVING OFF 6 OR 9 MONTHS OF PERMITTING? THAT ALONE COULD SAY, LIKE, IF YOU'RE RUNNING A BUILDING, YOU MAY GET LIKE 4 OR 5 MONTHS OF FREE RENT, BUT IF IT TAKES YOU NINE MONTHS TO PERMIT, YOU COULD BE MAKING 5 OR 6 OR $10,000 A MONTH RENTAL PAYMENTS WAITING TO GET PERMITTED.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SAVE YOU $50,000 JUST BY SAYING TO THE STAFF, WE'RE SENDING A RESOLUTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PRIORITIZE THIS PROJECT ABOVE WHATEVER, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN WHEN MATT AND HIS TEAM IS LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF TIME.
AND THE RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT. AND SO THEN WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GET ALL UPSET, WE CAN JUST SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY RIGHT NOW OF US. AND SO STAFF'S WORKING ON THE DAYCARE AND THEN SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS WRITE A CHECK TO EVERYBODY. BECAUSE AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE WRITE A CHECK TO SOMEBODY, WE'RE JUST TAKING OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS POCKET AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
HOW DO WE WHAT'S OTHER INCENTIVES OR WHATEVER? WE BRING THE JOBS OKAY. SO AND WE WANT YOUNGER POPULATION AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVING BABIES.
SO IT ALL LINKS TOGETHER. AND IT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO A QUESTION I ASKED A FEW MEETINGS AGO.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT I'VE BEEN READING WHERE THE SENIOR HOUSING.
THEY'RE COUPLING THAT WITH DAYCARES AND THEY'RE HAVING HUGE SUCCESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE AN OPTION TO COME BACK TO US YET ON THAT ONE.
YEAH. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATE FROM THAT GROUP.
SO IF YEAH, THAT AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL THINKING THAT I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO SOMEONE AT, AT A RETIREMENT DEAL THAT I WAS LIKE, IF THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS, HOW DO WE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, HOW DO WE MAKE CHEAPER WATER, HOW DO WE LOWER, OR HOW DO WE PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE? IF THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS WE JUST RAISE RATES? THAT'S THE EASY WAY.
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ALTERNATE ROUTE. WELL, IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, YOU COULD SAY, WELL, THE WITH SENIORS, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY THERE.THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING FOR TEN HOUR DAYS.
THEY CAN'T DRIVE TO AUSTIN. BUT IF THEY WORK FOUR HOUR SHIFTS AND THEY HAD A DAYCARE AND THE DAYCARE WAS SUBSIDIZED, WE HAVE THAT WITH OUR WHAT THEY CALL IT SWAT.
THEY HELP OUT THE POLICE STATION. AND SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT TO STAY ACTIVE. THEY WANT TO BE AROUND PEOPLE.
AND IT'S A WAY TO KIND OF KEEP THE SENIOR POPULATION NOT JUST SITTING THERE, BUT TO GET OUT, MOVE AROUND. I THINK IT'S IDEAS LIKE THAT THAT HOW WE CAN THEN WORK ON WITH SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BE ABLE TO HELP SUPPLY CHEAPER DAYCARE AND ALSO ENGAGE A SENIOR POPULATION THAT I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMART PEOPLE. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST HAVING YOUR PARENTS TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN WHILE YOU WORK.
YEAH, HEALTH CARE AND CHILDCARE. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S YOUR PARENTS.
NO, I TRUST THEM. IT HELPS THEM, TOO, YOU KNOW.
IT GIVES THEM PURPOSE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE CAPABLE PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE ENERGY, THEY HAVE THOUGHT PROCESSES.
SO PUT IT TO WORK. AND IT HELPS THE CHILDREN AND HELPS THE OLDER ADULTS AS WELL.
SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER DIRECTION OR CLARIFICATION FOR MYSELF OR SECRETARY MORALES? AS WE ENGAGE ON THIS ENDEAVOR TOGETHER THE PLAN IS TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE NOVEMBER EDC MEETING AND THEN WHICHEVER COUNCIL MEETING WE CAN DO AFTER THAT, BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY, WE WANT THERE TO BE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN BOTH BODIES.
COUNCIL AND EDC BECAUSE MANY OF OUR INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS USE BOTH BODIES, SO WE SHOULD BE IN AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT THE PROGRAMS ARE AND ANY SPECIFIC THRESHOLDS OR MAXIMUMS REGARDING AVAILABLE INCENTIVES.
VACUUM THE VACUUM INTERFERING TO. GOOD GOD. WHAT TYPE OF VACUUM CLEANER ARE THEY USING? I MEAN, IT'S WET, RIGHT? YEAH. NO, I JUST THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE BUDGET, SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
I HAVEN'T USED USED EQUIPMENT FROM THE 50S. YEAH.
ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT AS WE PROCEED.
THROW OUT THE T WORD. YOU GUYS TRUST US TO GO AHEAD? NO, BUT. KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND IT'S GOING.
IT'S GOING, YOU KNOW. WELL, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK ON THE EVAN, THAT'S RED LINE.
SO THE RED LINE PORTION OF THIS DOCUMENT, IF YOU'VE RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK YET? I HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY. I TOLD MATT I CAN'T GET INTO MINE BECAUSE THE LINK BRINGS UP A CALENDAR APPOINTMENT.
HAD SOME PROBLEMS EARLIER, BUT IT WAS ON MY PHONE.
SO I'D SAY IF YOU LIKE THE LINKS, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPEN UP THE LINKS TO THE PHONE, SO JUST ATTACHMENTS IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR ME WITH THE PDF.
YEAH, OKAY. IT'S A SIZE ISSUE THEN. YEAH, AT THAT POINT TOO, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE DONE THE LINKS BECAUSE ONE ORGANIZE AND THAT WAY LIKE THE FILE NAMES ALWAYS DON'T ALWAYS ALIGN WITH WHAT THE ITEM IS.
AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHICH ATTACHMENTS DON'T PUT A FOLDER STRUCTURE ON IT.
IF THEY RENAME IT OR MOVE IT ANYWHERE, THEN THE LINK IS BROKEN AND IT IS FOR AT LEAST FOR US ON COUNCIL IT IS DIAL THINGS DOWN TO THE POINT TO WHERE, LIKE YOU NEED AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF US FOLLOW THE RULES BEFORE THE RULES WERE GENERATED, BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE RULES WERE COMING WELL. BUT SOME OF US AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH ALL THAT.
CAN YOU USE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL? THERE'S A ON THE ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PER MEETING.
THERE'S A SET OF ALL THE FILES THERE. THEY'RE ALREADY POPULATED.
I WONDER IF WE COULD HAVE A ANOTHER FOLDER LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL DOES FOR ITS BY MONTH, AND THEN BY MEETING IT JUST DUMPS EVERYTHING IN THERE, INCLUDING THIRD PARTY PRESENTATIONS IF THEY'RE THERE USING SHAREPOINT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEAMS. SO WE HAVE TEAMS CHANNELS THAT EVERYTHING'S IN.
AND THEN YOU CAN GET LINKS FROM THE TEAMS AND THEN YOU CAN SHARE THE LINKS.
BECAUSE I WOULD JUST I THINK IT STILL POINTS TO THE SHAREPOINT THOUGH.
YEAH I CAN'T I CAN'T USE TEAMS ON THIS. I CAN ONLY OPEN MY OUTLOOK OKAY.
SO. APPLE DEVICES. THERE WE GO. YOU GAVE ME TO GIVE THEM AN APPLE.
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SO I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU GUYS, CAITLIN AND YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER.ARE YOU ARE YOU USING AI AT ALL TO TRY TO FRAME THIS? WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, SO I TYPICALLY LEAN ON AI FOR A FRAMEWORK.
YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE WE MAY BE OVERLOOKING SOMETHING, BUT MAYBE IF WE USE 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT AI VERSIONS, THE AI FOR REFINING, I DON'T USE IT FOR CREATING.
SO I'LL CREATE A THING AND THEN I'LL USE AI TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T FORGET ANYTHING.
I THINK WE CAN ONLY USE ONE AI NOW TO THERE'S A BIG POLICY WE JUST WENT THROUGH.
WHICH ONE? DIFFERENT ONES HAVE DIFFERENT SECURITY ISSUES AND SO IT'S VERY RESTRICTED, LIKE MY COMPANY, A GENERAL THING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET REAL INTO THE CITIES ITSELF WHERE CITY STAFF.
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU PUT IN THERE. AND THERE'S A WHOLE POLICY.
THERE'S THEY'RE LEARNING OFF THE DATA. YOU GIVE IT PRIVACY EMAIL ADDRESS.
CAN I PLEASE CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE ME A COPY OF THE SUCH AND SUCH? AND IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, IT WAS JUST UPLOADED YESTERDAY.
HERE YOU GO. YEAH. WESTLAW. WESTLAW PUT OUT A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM TO AVOID THAT.
AND SO IT IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR, ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE SECURITY PROCESSES.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE AND IT DOESN'T LEARN FROM OUTSIDE.
YEAH YEAH YEAH. OVER HUMANS. SO YOU KNOW YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE RED LINES BACK AND AND YEAH WE'RE JUST GOING TO FINALIZE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
SCROLL. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS NO ACTION ON SEVEN THREE.
THAT TAKES US TO ITEM SEVEN FOUR. DISCUSS CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION SPECIAL BOARD MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025, AND OUR REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025.
DOCS ARE PROVIDED. ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. DO WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, WARFIELD, SECONDED BY SECRETARY MORALES, PRESENTED. OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE.
ROLL CALL. I'M SORRY, CHAIR CARLSON. I REMEMBER PORTERFIELD.
SECRETARY MORALES, A BOARD MEMBER. HORTON. BOARD MEMBER.
SNIDER. BOARD MEMBER. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
ITEM SEVEN FIVE. DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION REGARDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROJECTS TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE HEAD OF ECONOMIC CORPORATION. SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SEVERAL CIP PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER WERE MENTIONED AS POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR THIS CORPORATION TO MANAGE. SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S A I DIDN'T CATCH THIS, BUT PER THE NOTES FROM THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THERE WAS A WASTEWATER PROJECT, A BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR.
HAVE THAT ONE WRITTEN DOWN. BUT AND THEN THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT AT 137 137, THAT IS AND THEN ROAD PROJECT FROM KR 137 OR SORRY FROM 16 60 AT 137 TO BRUSHY CREEK.
AND THEN THE LIVE OAK EXTENSION AND HE HAS ROUNDABOUT ON HERE, I DON'T YEAH, YEAH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN ICE. YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN ICE EVALUATION ON EVERY SINGLE.
OKAY. YEAH. THE ROUNDABOUTS PLAN TO WRITE AN EXCHANGE.
BUT THIS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS ONE WAS THE LIVE OAK EXTENSION TO ED SCHMIDT.
AS FAR AS UNDERTAKING CIP PROJECTS. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR SPEARHEADING BY THE CORPORATION. ALSO NEED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS TO MANAGE THE PROJECT.
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THE THE GENERAL. YES. CONSTANT AROUND THE CONVERSATION FROM COUNCIL WAS ABOUT EXPEDITING. SO THE CORPORATION, FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW, DOES NOT HAVE TO ADHERE TO MUNICIPAL PROCUREMENT POLICY.SO WE DON'T HAVE TO POST IN THE PAPER. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF BIDS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC BID OPENING AT ALL.
AND THEN ALSO THE CORPORATION IS ALSO ABLE TO IMPLEMENT DAMAGES IN FROM A PUNITIVE STANDPOINT, WHICH MUNICIPALITIES ARE NOT. SO THERE'S SOME AGAIN, LIKELY EFFICIENCIES ON THAT END TOO, BECAUSE DEADLINES ARE DEADLINES AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE COSTS THAT ARE INCURRED IF THEY MISS THEM.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY RUN IT LIKE A BUSINESS WITHOUT THE BUREAUCRATIC BS.
YES. BEAUTIFUL. SO TO BE CLEAR, DEADLINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THIS. I STARTED THIS ON THE COUNCIL AFTER JIM AND I WERE IN A SOME SORT OF ATTORNEY MEETING WITH AN ATTORNEY SPECIFICALLY ON WHAT WAS THAT GUY? NOT HIS NAME, BUT HE WAS LIKE, FOR A CONTRACTUAL ATTORNEY.
YEAH, WE HAD A BOND. YEAH, A BONDED ITEM. YEAH.
CHAPMAN I THINK. CHAPMAN. YEAH, WE HAD A BONDED ITEM GO SOUTH IN A DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE IF THAT CONTRACTS IT'S THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL HOW COME I DON'T DEAL WITH THIS AT WORK.
HOW COME PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS BEHIND? AND IT WAS LIKE, WELL, HE KEPT SAYING, WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE PUBLIC, YOU'RE LIMITED TO YOUR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. AND REALLY THEY'RE NOT EVEN REALLY ENFORCEABLE.
AND SO I'M LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY WE KEPT GOING THROUGH.
AND FINALLY IT DAWNED ON ME, HE'S TALKING PUBLIC.
AND I WAS LIKE, SO A PRIVATE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE STATE LAWS.
AND HE WAS LIKE, YEAH, SO WE DON'T WANT TO NOT BID.
WE STILL WANT TO BID AS I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT.
BUT I THINK THE INTENT IS WE STILL BID, WE STILL DO EVERYTHING, BUT WE USE THE CHAPMAN FIRM TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF OUR CONTRACTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PEOPLE LITERALLY ARE LAYING AWAKE AT NIGHT SWEATING BULLETS WHEN A ROAD'S NOT ON SCHEDULE.
EVERY PROJECT HERE IS MONTHS PAST DUE. AND SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT I THINK DEPENDING THE, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE DDC, LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THIS WASTEWATER LINES DIRECTLY IMPACTS SPROUTS AND THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT THESE ROADS AND BE ABLE TO GO, OKAY, CAN WE BID IT OUT WITH THE TEETH IN IT TO WHERE, WHEN, WHEN REPUTABLE PEOPLE BID ON IT? BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF OUR PROBLEM. YOU TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE MOST REPUTABLE PEOPLE, THE BIG GUYS BIDDING.
AND SO THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO GET MORE OF THOSE GUYS IN AND THEN BE ABLE TO IN SOME INSTANCES, WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THEM AS A PRIVATE CORPORATION TO BEAT A DEADLINE, WHICH WE CAN'T ON A CITY SIDE.
WE CAN REALLY TIME UP AND KEEP THE RETAINAGE OR WHATEVER IT IS WHEN THEY MISS DEADLINES AND GO, LOOK, THIS ISN'T DONE. THE CITY HAS TO PROVE A DAMAGE, WHICH WE CAN'T PROVE A DAMAGE WHEN A ROAD DOESN'T GET WIDENED BECAUSE IT JUST TRAFFIC ON A PRIVATE SIDE, WE CAN JUST SAY EVERY DAY IT'S WHATEVER'S $10,000, AND THEN WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT FORCE MAJEURE INSTANCES, BUT IT'S LIKE, HEY, IT HAD RAIN FOR THREE MONTHS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PART SHORTAGES. WE'D HAVE STRIKES, RIOTS AND ALL THAT.
YOU OWE US $450,000 FOR BEING LATE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE IDEA AGAIN FOR THE COUNCIL IS SHIFT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS OVER.
SEE IF THE ENTITY. RIGHT. OKAY. THEY'LL PAY. WE'LL HAVE TO DO AN INTERLOCAL.
THEY'RE GOING TO PAY. THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT FULLY IN SUPPORT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, USE THE CHAPMAN LAW FIRM. I THINK HE SAID HE'D GIVE US LIKE TWO WHEN IT LIKE TWO LOOKS TO A CONTRACT, PUT THE TEETH IN AND RUN IT THROUGH AND THEN DRIVE THE PEOPLE TO WHERE WE GET PROJECTS LIKE A PRIVATE COMPANY DOES TO KIND OF HE'S ALREADY ON ON CONTRACT, RETAINER OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S MINIMAL COSTS.
I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID. IT WASN'T SO MUCH BAD CONTRACTS.
AND ALSO THE EDC HAS THE PRIVATE CAPABILITIES.
AND THEN PICK THEM BASED ON THE PRIORITY THAT WE GENERATE, NOT TO CREATE NOW AND THEN GO IN.
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BECAUSE OUR CIP IS DOWN TO ABOUT 70, 75 LINE ITEMS. SO I KNOW A LOT OF THESE ARE IN SIX YEAR BUCKET.BUT I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT WHAT ARE THE 2 OR 3? AND FIRST OFF, JUST START WITH ONE TO SEE WHAT'S ONE THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE AND GET IT GOING QUICKER THAN WE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY.
WITH THE, WITH THE OLD PROCESS. SO I THINK THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ISSUES THAT I, I HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH EDC DOING CIP STUFF AT A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT I THINK WHERE, LIKE, NO BID.
I THINK THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY BAD LOOK. AND I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.
SHE DOES NOT WORK IN A SIP WORLD ON A DAILY BASIS.
HER JOB IS TO INTERACT WITH BUSINESSES AND HELP ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT CAN'T BE. OH, EDC IS MANAGING THE SIP PROJECT AND IT'S JUST CRICKETS, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MEGA SITE AND NO FAULT OF ANYONE IN THIS ROOM OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
WE DIDN'T KNOW. WE DIDN'T KNOW. BUT I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THAT.
THE IDEA IS JUST A NAME CHANGE, NOT THE PROCESS CHANGE INSTEAD OF NOW THE CITY BIDDING WITH THE CITY'S NAME, THE CITY WILL BE BIDDING WITH THE EDC'S NAME, AND THE CONTRACTS WILL BE WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN BASED ON PUBLIC PROCUREMENT. YOU CAN DO ALL THAT STUFF.
WE JUST USE THAT WITH A CONTRACT THAT WORKS FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES, AND THEN THE CITY'S ABLE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN CONTRACT WITH THE CITY FOR THEM TO DO ALL OF OUR WORK.
THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING. MATT'S STILL DOING THE SAME INSPECTIONS.
HIS PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME CIP WORK. IT'S JUST NOW WHEN HE ROLLS UP, HE SLAPS ON.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I PLAN TO BRING UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT WE'RE JUST SWAPPING ENTITIES.
IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, COOL. BUT I JUST I WANT IT PAPERED UP.
I WANT IT CRYSTAL FREAKING CLEAR BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THERE'S AMBIGUITIES.
WELL, THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY AND THE ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP HAVE.
WE ENDED UP DOING IT ON A PER PROJECT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S NOT GOING TO BE.
I'M HOPING THE WHOLE COUNCIL GETS ON BOARD. I THINK IN ORDER TO GET THEM ON BOARD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THE COUNCIL FINDS, BLAH BLAH BLAH. THE COUNCIL REIMBURSE THE EDC AND IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, JUST BE A FLOW THROUGH.
AND SO WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE IN EACH ONE.
THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT, NOT TECHNICALLY INTERLOCAL BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY IS. BUT CAN WE, CAN WE JUST DO LIKE EFFECTIVELY A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT OR, OR SOME EFFECT? YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT BASICALLY, HEY, HERE'S, YOU KNOW, MEAT AND POTATOES OF IT.
AND THEN IT GETS TO, OH, HEY, WE WANT TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE THERE NEEDS TO BE WIDENED.
AND WE'VE ALL AGREED UPON THAT. OKAY. HEY, AS LONG AS EDC AGREES AND THEN COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE OUR EDC, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES RESOLUTION COUNCIL APPROVES OFF ON IT, WHATEVER.
YOU'RE DONE. YEAH. I THINK EITHER ONE WE COULD DEVELOP A KIND OF A POLICY ON HOW THAT WORKS OR TWO, WE CAN DO ADMINISTRATIVE AGREEMENTS THAT COME WITH EACH PROJECT SO THAT IF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE WORKED LIKE DO $75 MILLION, YOU KNOW WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSIONS OR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS EXPANSIONS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT A SPECIALIZED PROJECT MANAGER TO DO THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS AND BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE OUT THERE FOR SIX HOURS EVERY DAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CITY ENGINEER.
IF YOUR CITY ENGINEERS OUT THERE 4 TO 6 HOURS EVERY DAY.
SO IT WOULD JUST MATTER ON THE PROJECT. BUT HOWEVER, BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK ON ON DOCUMENTATION. I LIKE THAT SECRETARY MORALES SAID.
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THE OTHER, WHICH IS YOU SAID ABOUT PERFORMANCE IT'S JUST A WAY TO FORCE PERFORMANCE, FORCE PERFORMANCE, MONITOR PERFORMANCE AND LEGISLATE. THE OTHER THING THAT CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE IS THE PERFORMANCE OF THESE PEOPLE CAN BE USED AS A BASIS UPON WHICH REENGAGING WITH THEM.AND SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE EXTRA POINTS IF YOU'VE HAD THREE PRIOR JOBS THAT THEY'VE DONE, BOTH UNDER BUDGET AND AND BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
OR ALTERNATIVELY, YOU COULD EXCLUDE SOMEBODY THAT BLEW IT.
AND YOU COULDN'T NECESSARILY DO THAT IN THE CITY SIDE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS TO BID, YOU BID OUT AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE LIKE THE LOWEST BID, THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE. WE KEEP GETTING SCREWED BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS DRIVE THROUGH INNOVATION AND WE APPROVE THAT BID IN MARCH.
HERE IT IS. STARTED MARCH. YEAH. NO, WE APPROVED IT IN MARCH.
AND I THINK IT'S MORE OF IF ALL OF A SUDDEN WE START REALLY COOKING AND GETTING THE STUFF DONE, IT'S STILL HIS STAFF DOING IT, BUT IT MAYBE WASN'T HIS IDEA TO GET IT DONE.
WHERE JIM AND I ARE MEETING WITH AN ATTORNEY GOING, HERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.
AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THAT'S FIXABLE AS LONG AS WE GET THE VOTES. MAKES SENSE. YEAH.
BECAUSE YEAH. THEN WE CAN SIT THERE. SO WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THEN FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF ACTION WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO. OH NEXT STEP OKAY I'M SORRY. YEAH I'M NOT FOR BYPASSING BIDDING. I THINK WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE COMPETING TO DO THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN GET THE BEST DEAL ON IT.
SO I'M NOT FOR THAT AT ALL. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO USE EDC TO BYPASS ANY OF THOSE.
YEAH, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. MATT WAS PRETTY LONELY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO DOING A LOT OF WORK.
SO HE WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO MANAGE IT THAN WHAT WE HAD WHEN WE WENT INTO THE SPINE ROAD.
I LIKE THAT. DO A COUPLE ONE OFFS. YEAH, THEY'RE ALL LIVING DOCUMENTS.
EVERY EVERY PROJECT. YOU'LL FIND SOMETHING. BUT ONCE WE'VE DONE A COUPLE, THEN. THEN IT JUST BECOMES TURNING THE CRANK AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO YEAH, I WOULD ALSO PROBABLY RECOMMEND JUST BASED OFF, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NO CITY ENGINEER, SO I DON'T KNOW YOUR DAY JOB, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND JUST PROOF OF CONCEPT THINGS AT LEAST.
YOU KNOW, IN MY WORLD IN TECH OR WHATEVER ELSE, IT'S SMALL, SIMPLE THINGS.
YOU DON'T GO FOR THE HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S A COMPLICATED THING. NO. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WASTEWATER LINE THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE ENGINEERING WORK ON.
SO THAT'S DONE. BUT IT'S ABOUT THE SAME THING.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE MOST OF THE PLANNING BUT SIMPLE THINGS AND OKAY COOL.
GREAT. BUT YEAH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAS TO BE BOUGHT INTO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND HAVE BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE YOUR OWN INPUTS AND OUTPUTS THAT NEED TO BE MET. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AS WELL. AND NOT JUST GOING, HEY, HERE'S THIS GREAT IDEA, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. WELL, GET INTO REALITY. AND IT'S MAYBE NOT I'LL JUST SAY THAT WHAT WE WOULD NEED PROBABLY FROM YOU WOULD BE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE PUT IN THIS ROUNDABOUT, HOW IS THAT GOING TO INCREASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? IT'S GOING TO GROW, YOU KNOW, GROW. I MEAN, SAY, SAY THAT THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION NODE.
IT'S A LIKE A COLLECTOR FOR FOR THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO OUR INDUSTRIAL SYSTEM.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE TO TO SUPPORT YOUR FINDING THAT IT'S IT WILL GROW, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF IT'S A ROUNDABOUT IN FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO BE A HARDER TO DO THAT THAN SO.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS KIND OF LOOKED AT WITH THAT.
WE LOOKED AT SEWER LINE BECAUSE THAT, THAT FEEDS SPROUTS.
WE DID WHAT WAS THE OTHER ROAD? OH 137 AND 16 60 THAT'S GOT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALL AROUND IT.
AND SO THE FIRST. SO THIS IS 137 HERE. THIS IS 1660.
THIS IS THE THE ROUNDABOUT. IT'S NOT JUST THE ROUNDABOUT.
OBVIOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK THIS WAY ON 1660, BACK THIS WAY ON 1660 AND COME DOWN 137.
THIS WHOLE AREA ABOVE THE SCHOOL IS ALL GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL, PRETTY MUCH.
AND THEN THIS THIS WHOLE LAND UP HERE WAS ORIGINALLY WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, SUPPOSED TO BE,
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LIKE, SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT KIND OF STUFF, BUT THAT WHOLE THING HAS GONE AWAY.AND SO IT WOULD OPEN UP THAT WHOLE LAND FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE OTHER PROJECTS ON ROADS THAT WERE MENTIONED IS SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NO ROAD RIGHT HERE TO GET FROM EXCHANGE TO EDGE SCHMIDT. AND SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY CORRECT BECAUSE PART OF THE ROAD IS BUILT, THERE'S JUST LIKE A DEAD END BACK HERE.
AND SO PUTTING THIS ROAD IN AND CONNECTING ED SCHMIDT TO EXCHANGE AND THE REST OF THE CITY WOULD OPEN UP AN ENTIRELY NEW DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR FOR THE CITY. TED SCHMIDT IS OUR PRIMARY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY EASY ARGUMENT TO SAY THAT THAT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE IS THE OTHER ONE THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THIS IS LIVE OAK, THIS IS EXCHANGE. THIS INTERSECTION IS, IN MY TERMINOLOGY, AND AND SO WE'RE PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT HERE TO TRY TO FIX IT. AND FOR THE OFFSET, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE OFFSET.
AND LIKE THERE'S THE POST OFFICE HERE. ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE CO-OP DOWN HERE.
THIS IS A COMMERCIAL CORNER. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL CORNER.
AND THIS IS ALL OF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BECOME COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, THE LINE THAT WAS MENTIONED IS THIS MASSIVE YELLOW LINE THAT GOES ALL ALONG HERE AND ALL THE WAY UP TO HERE, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THIS LIFT STATION, IT'S CALLED THE ENCLAVE LIFT STATION IS AT CAPACITY.
AND TO EXPAND IT REALLY MEANS WE HAVE TO RIP IT OUT AND REDO THE ENTIRE THING.
ONLY THERE WERE ANOTHER ONE BEING RIPPED UP. GEORGE.
QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. COULD YOU ARGUE IT'S LIKE 137? IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE EXAMPLE WHERE IT'S LIKE IT YOU CAN ARGUE AND PROBABLY KIND OF GET THERE.
I THINK IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE HARDER THAN SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND LIVE OAK FROM, YOU KNOW, EXCHANGE OVER TO, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE.
I THINK THAT'S AN EASY SELL. COULD YOU ALSO THROW IN THERE EMERGENCY SERVICES IMPACTING THE OVERALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF STATION TWO THERE? IF YOU HAVE GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW ON 137 AND 1660.
NOW FIRE IS ABLE TO RESPOND MORE FASTER. YEAH.
I MEAN THE THE ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE A, SAY, A MANUFACTURER TO COME IN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS POINT WE ARE X MILES AWAY FROM A FIRE RESPONSE OR THOSE KIND OF ISSUES AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO ALL OF THAT GOES IN BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO DEMONSTRATE A FACTUAL BASIS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT THIS BOARD ADOPTS OPS AS TO WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND ABSENT ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS BEHAVIOR.
A REASONABLE AS ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THAT CONNECTION.
SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT STAFF AND LEGAL REVIEW THE ENTIRE CIP LIST AND EVALUATE FOR FIT FOR EDI QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN PRIORITIZE THAT WAY AND THEN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.
OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT TIME.
AND SO IF IF WE DON'T CHOOSE THOSE, THEN THE CITY'S GOING TO DO IT.
THE YELLOW WASTEWATER LINE, YOU CAN'T EVEN DEVELOP 130 UNTIL THAT'S DONE.
AND SO WE HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTS NOW TOYOTA CAN'T BUILD.
NOBODY CAN BUILD ON 130 UNTIL THAT'S DONE. YEAH.
TIME SENSITIVE PRIORITY. OKAY. AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION.
BUT WE STILL NEED TO SAY OKAY, HERE GET LET'S LET'S GET THOSE FINDINGS PUT IN PLACE SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN PUT, PUT THOSE MEN FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THE, THE SECOND PART IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOME LAND SALES MOVE FORWARD
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THERE MAY BE A WAY TO, TO USE THOSE FUNDS AS A MEANS BY WHICH TO ISSUE A LARGE BOND AND THEN USE THOSE FUNDS AS A MEANS BY WHICH TO PAY FOR THAT OVER TIME, WHICH THEN GIVES YOU A LOT MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT CONTROL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. BECAUSE IF YOU HAD 50 OR $60 MILLION, YOU COULD GET MAYBE THAT WHOLE LINE DONE AND OTHER PROJECTS DONE. EVEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY IT OFF OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS ON BOND THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU CAN PAY IT OFF NOW FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS OFF OF THE X, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YOU HAVE FROM THE LAND. AND THEN BY THAT TIME, ALL THE ALL THE COSTS ARE INCREASED.AND NOW YOU HAVE THE, THE CASH FLOW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO PAY THOSE LOANS OFF.
BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT EDC ATTORNEY PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT ON THE TERMS WE'RE DISCUSSING BACK HERE. WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY WOULD PAY THE EDC LIKE AS THE CHECKS COME IN, NOT A LUMP SUM, BUT AS THE MONEY COMES IN. BUT AN AGREEMENT WOULD BE SET UP LIKE THAT.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION? A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD TO DIRECT EDC LEGAL TO WORK ON DOCKS FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL OR SUBJECT TO.
AND ANY OTHER KEY HIGHLIGHTS. FUNDING AGREEMENT.
YEAH. FUNDING AGREEMENT. YEAH. IT SHOULD BE ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT WE DID FOR THE SPINE, TO BE HONEST, EXCEPT FOR SOME COUNCIL MEMBER GOT CUT OUT OF THAT A LITTLE BIT, WHICH RESULTED IN A LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUES ON MY PART TO WHERE WHAT I WANT CHANGED IS WHEN WE DO THE AGREEMENTS, THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENTS.
YOU BID ON THE AGREEMENT ONCE YOU WIN THE AWARD AND YOU SIGN A CONTRACT, THAT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, AND THEN THE COUNCIL HAS A RIGHT TO GET INTO IT. AND THE COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY.
WE GOT TO MAKE SURE I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF.
WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE NOT SKIRTING BIDDING LAWS.
WE'RE NOT DOING. JAMES BROUGHT UP IT COULD BE BIDDING ON PROJECTS TO FRIENDS AND THINGS.
IT'S LIKE, NO, WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT. WE WANT IT TO BE SO ABOVE BOARD.
I WANT THEM AFRAID OF MATH, NOT DODGING HIS PHONE CALLS.
WOULDN'T THAT JUST BE A POLICY THING FOR US, SAYING, HEY, WE'RE OPEN AND WILLING TO RELEASE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION? WHAT WOULD I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE CREATED IN IN MY OPINION, THIS NEEDS TO BE A PROGRAM.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE CITY CITY COUNCIL HAS THE CONTROL.
AND THOSE APPROVALS WOULD BE CONDITIONED ON THE MATERIALS THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD THE CONCERNS. YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE'S CONCERNS? YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS, JUST BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP AT THAT TIME.
BUT TO ME, IT'S JUST ASSURING. WHILE THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THIS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE CITIZENS OF HUTTO, THAT THIS IS TRANSPARENT.
AND IT'D BE A GOOD PRODUCT. GOOD, A GOOD A GOOD PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE FOR FOR GETTING INFRASTRUCTURE QUICKER, BETTER PERFORMANCE. YEAH. I MEAN I JUST LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WAY WE CAN LOOK AT, AT A, A BID, FOR INSTANCE, THAT THE CITY WOULD USE PULL OUT THE 252 AND THE STUFF OUT OF IT.
IT WOULD BE ANYBODY WHO BID ON IT IF THEY WANTED TO.
SO ONE THING THAT WE DID TO HER OR HAVE DONE BEFORE IS ITS INVITATION TO BID.
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CONSTRUCTION FOLKS TO BID. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROCESS.AT WHAT POINT IS THE EDC GETTING INVOLVED? ARE WE DOING PROJECTS WHEN THEY ARE GOING OUT FOR DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN ALSO LEVERAGE THESE SAME BENEFITS? ARE WE DOING THEM ONLY AT CONSTRUCTION? ARE WE ENTERTAINING BOTH? LIKE WHAT ARE WE? MY OPINION IS IT'S JUST CONSTRUCTION ONLY BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT DESIGN WE WE SHOULD ON THE CITY SIDE BE DESIGNING PROJECTS THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS OUT AND HAVE THEM SITTING ON A SHELF READY, READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
BUT ONCE WE PULL THE TRIGGER ON CONSTRUCTION, WE NEED TO NOT BE SCREWING AROUND.
SO TO ME, THE DESIGN, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH DESIGN.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE ISSUE HAS BEEN MORE.
ONCE WE BID IT OUT, IT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE SIX MONTHS.
THEY COME BACK 18 MONTHS LATER WITH EXCUSES. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF US SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT IT START OFF SMALL, YOU KNOW, JUST GET THE CONSTRUCTION GOING, WORK ON TARGET THREE, BUT JUST WORK ON ONE, SEE HOW IT'S GOING. AND THEN I WOULD JUST TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ADVICE AND EXPERTISE OF OUR CITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES HE WANT.
WHAT WHAT WHAT DOES THAT THAT GROUP, THAT TEAM, LIKE MAYBE THEY COME IN AND SAY, HEY, THIS PROJECT, WE GOT SIX DESIGNS OUT RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE WE DO NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT THAT'S ABOVE MY HEAD. BUT I REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS AND ENGINEERING.
SO I ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP YOU KNOW, THEM IN THE LOOP.
SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT. I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF BE BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IT. YEAH. ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT CONTROLS MANAGES ONE PERSON AT SOME POINT.
IT'S LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL THE PUBLIC IS BAD MANAGEMENT.
AND SO TO ME, WE GOTTA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING EVERY TOOL, EVERY OPPORTUNITY.
BUT AT SOME POINT, PROJECTS HAVE GOT TO START GETTING DONE. WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS STUFF DONE.
WE'VE GOT $300 MILLION SITTING THERE. I THINK 134 MILLION IS UNRESTRICTED.
I DON'T THINK AT A AT A CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT OTHER EFFICIENCIES BEFORE WE THEN GO, OKAY, WE'VE GIVEN EVERY SINGLE OPTION. WE'VE WITH CRITICALLY ON EVERYTHING THE EDC SITE.
CRITICALLY. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN IN TALKING TO CHAPMAN. AND THEN MATT MAY COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND SAY, OKAY, YOU GUYS HAVE GOT SO MUCH STUFF IN THE PIPELINE NOW I NEED ONE MORE BODY, AND.
OKAY, THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S MOVING ALONG FINE, OR WE CAN SLOW IT DOWN. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT GUMMED UP IN THE DESIGN AND WE'RE NOT GUMMED UP ON LETTING THE PROJECTS WE'RE JUST GUMMED UP IN.
IN MY OPINION, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS LOWEST COST, WE'RE JUST ATTRACTING SOME DEADBEAT CONTRACTORS WHO JUST CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PROJECT DONE. I MEAN, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, FOR CITIES.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I CAN COLLABORATE WITH JEFF AS WELL.
AND AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER CONTRACTS HE'S DOING WILL WILL FIT CLEANLY INTO YOUR PROGRAM.
YOU'VE GOT 80% OF IT OR 90% OF IT. NOW TELL US THE LAST LITTLE BIT TO GET IN THERE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT HANGING SIGNS UP, LIKE LITERALLY FOR BAIT SIGNS, LIKE, IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT, CALL THIS NUMBER HERE AND THIS CONTRACTOR AND BASICALLY SHAMING THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE EVERY DAMN THING WE START IS TAKING FOREVER.
AND I'M JUST JUST AN IMPATIENT PERSON AT THE HEART OF IT ALL.
SO SIGNS HOW MANY DELAYS? I KID YOU NOT. GUYS, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED.
SO WE'VE BY PORTERFIELD. SO WE'VE JUMPED AROUND.
THAT'S FINE, BUT WE NEED TO REIN IT BACK ON WHAT? WE WHERE WE WERE. SO MOTION WAS FOR LITTLE COUNSEL TO GO THROUGH AND START DEVELOPING SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS, REALLY ALMOST IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE SPINAL CORD WAS.
ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
ROLL CALL PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER A CHAIR.
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CARLSON A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS. AYE. SECRETARY.MORALES A BOARD MEMBER. GONZALEZ. BOARD MEMBER.
THORNTON A BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
AYE. YOU GOTTA MAKE IT WORK. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES.
TRYING TO. IT'S HARD WITH FOUR KITTENS. YES. I'M GLAD YOU FIGURED THAT ONE OUT.
OKAY. ALRIGHT, THAT TAKES US ON TO ITEM EIGHT, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS THE OPEN MEETING AND RECOMMENDING EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT. EXCUSE ME. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551071 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION 551087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 51072 REAL PROPERTY DELIVERY ADVICE REGARDING THE ECONOMIC PROJECTS.
PROJECT. PROJECT. PROJECT. PROJECT. PROJECT. YOU CAN DO A PROJECT.
LIBRA PROJECT. ORCHARD. PROJECT. PROJECT. PROJECT IN Q2.
PROJECT. FOOTBALL PROJECT. AIR PROJECT. BLUEBIRD PROJECT 2007 AND PROJECT AMP.
POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS. APPROVAL. INVESTMENTS. BOND, THE LOAN FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES, THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES AND ANY RELATED INCENTIVES AND THE EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR INCENTIVES. THE TIME IS 808.
YES. ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 1022 AND WE ARE RECONVENING INTO REGULAR SESSION.
CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DIRECT STAFF TO PAY THE PENDING INCENTIVE FOR PROJECT IN Q2 IN AN AMOUNT TO CALCULATED USING ONLY THE SALES TAX WHICH IS RECEIVED RECEIVED FROM THE BUSINESSES DEFINED AS WITHIN THE PROJECT AND NOT THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SHOWN IN THE ATTACHED PROPERTY EXHIBIT.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
AND YOU HAVE ACTUAL TEXT COPY OF THE MOTION ITSELF.
SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. I'M ON MY WAY. SO EVERYONE HEARING THAT OR OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL. CHAIR. CARLSON. AYE.
SECRETARY. MORALES I BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS, A BOARD MEMBER.
SNYDER, A BOARD MEMBER. GONZALEZ, A BOARD MEMBER.
THORNTON, A BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO NOT SELL ANY PROPERTY IN THE COTTONWOOD KNOWN AS THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY, TO RESIDENTIAL USES MULTIFAMILY OR INDOOR SINGLE FAMILY.
I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY CHAIR CARLSON, FOR NO LAND SALES OUTSIDE OF EFFECTIVELY INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL USE. NO RESIDENTIAL.
OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
SECRETARY MORALES, A BOARD MEMBER. SNYDER A CHAIR.
CARLSON, A BOARD MEMBER. THORNTON, A FORMER MEMBER.
GONZALEZ, A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS, A BOARD MEMBER.
PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE ONE MORE. I WROTE DOWN DIRECT. MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO APPROVE THE RFP LANGUAGE AS PRESENTED TO US FOR LAND PLANNING FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY AS IT WAS PRESENTED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
BOARD MEMBER. THORNTON, A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS, A BOARD MEMBER.
PORTERFIELD, A BOARD MEMBER. GONZALEZ, A BOARD MEMBER.
SNYDER, A CHAIR. CARLSON, A SECRETARY. MORALES A MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
SECOND, WE HAVE MORRIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR CARLSON, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS.
YOU HAVE THE TEXT. CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU SEND IT TO ME? THEN I HAVE IT. FANTASTIC. OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER.
PORTERFIELD. A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS. CHAIR. CARLSON.
A BOARD SOLID A BOARD MEMBER A BOARD MEMBER. SNYDER A SECRETARY.
MORALE HIGH. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM NINE TO DISCUSS.
CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE AND PROCESS FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES. THIS IS ACTUALLY TIED BACK TO MIDWAY'S PROPOSAL. AND SINCE WE HAVE MOVED TO TERMINATE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, EFFECTIVELY,
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THERE IS NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FROM LEGAL ABOUT NINE ONE, THE EMAILS WE TALKED ABOUT.I WAS ABLE TO BE SHARED PUBLICLY. RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE ACTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CONDEMNATION, BUT IT'S OKAY IF IT'S SHARED PUBLICLY, RIGHT? SHARE EMAILS. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM TEN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? HEARING NONE. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM 11.
WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 1027.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.