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FIVE, 6:00. CALL THE JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR MONDAY,

[(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on November 24, 2025.]

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NOVEMBER 24TH, 2005, TO ORDER, AND WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR SANDERS HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON HERE. MAYOR THOMPSON NOT HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS HERE. COUNCILMEMBER GORDON'S NOT HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD HERE. COUNCILMEMBER KING HERE.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR OF THE HCDC. ALRIGHT.

CHAIR CARLSON IS PRESENT. VICE CHAIR MORALES HERE.

GORDON. SNYDER HERE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD HERE.

SECRETARY GONZALEZ IS ABSENT. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON HERE.

AND BOARD MEMBER MORRIS HERE. AWESOME. WE HAVE EDC SIDE.

MISTER CHAIR, I THINK I THINK SHE HAS TO HAVE HER CAMERA ON.

YES. IT'S GETTING READY TO SAY. CAITLIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

OH, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS. YOU CAN BLUR THE BEHIND THE SCENES.

OKAY.

THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM 31. CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 344 TO DELEGATE BRUSHY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR PHASE FOUR PROJECT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 2025 344 AS PRESENTED.

THIS IS, FOR CLARIFICATION SAKES, AS WHAT THE EDC OR THE CITY COUNCIL SAID CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THIS IS 310. GOOD POINT. ALRIGHT I SEE HOW YOU DID THIS.

GOOD. YOU GOT CITY COUNCIL OR YOU MADE IT GOOD.

YOU MADE IT DUMMY PROOF FOR US. I APPRECIATE THAT.

NOT FOR ME. ALMOST. ALMOST. ALMOST. GOT IT. I FEEL OPPORTUNITY.

YOU'RE A MAN. MOTION BY PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY MAURICE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE.

SEE? THIS IS.

MAURICE. I. KNOW. THOMPSON. KING. HI. PORTERFIELD.

HI. THORNTON. AYE. SNYDER. AYE. ALRIGHT. NEXT WE'LL GO TO.

SO HOW DO WE DO THIS? DO I READ ALL OF THEM? AND THEN DON TAKES OVER, OR DOES HE READ? I'LL READ THE. HE'S GOING TO DO THE EDC. ALRIGHT.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER RADKE 2025 150 TO APPROVE BRUSHY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR PHASE FOUR PROJECT.

OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY. GRACIAS. MOTION TO APPROVE R DC 2025 150 AS PRESENTED FOR THE EDC.

I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY CHAIR CARLSON TO APPROVE 3.2 AS PRESENTED.

OPEN UP. DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. CHAIR CARLSON AS I VICE CHAIR MORALES.

I BOARD MEMBER SNYDER A BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD I ABSENT BOARD MEMBER.

THORNTON A BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS. AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

AND AN ITEM 33 HDC DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R, HDC 2025 151 TO APPROVE UNDER CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT FOR THE BRUSHY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR PHASE FOUR PROJECT.

AS PRESENTED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. VICE CHAIR MORALES.

I CHAIR CARLSON, I BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD A BOARD MEMBER.

MORRIS I SNYDER AND BOARD MEMBER THORNTON. AYE.

MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM THREE FOR HDC DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R,

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HDC 2025 152 TO APPROVE A CHAPTER 380 FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WHICH THE CITY HAS OR WILL DESIGNATE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. MOTION TO APPROVE OUR HDC 2025 152 AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND. OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE FOR NUMBER SNYDER.

BORDER MORRIS A CHAIR. CARLSON'S I BOARD MEMBER.

PORTERFIELD. I VICE CHAIR. MORALES II, BOARD MEMBER.

THORNTON. AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. NO, THAT'S THREE FIVE.

THAT'S US. STILL THREE FIVE. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE USE OF HDC LAND TO SCOUTS OF AMERICA FOR USE AS A CAMPING SITE FOR THE 2026 DISTRICT.

CAMPOREE. CHAIRMAN BROUGHT THIS UP. WE HAD A REQUEST SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT WAS BOY SCOUTS WERE LOOKING OR I SAY BOY SCOUTS IS SCOUTS.

NOW, BOYS AND GIRLS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO DO A CAMPOREE.

IT'S COMBINED. SO WOULD BE IT WOULD BE KIDS FROM ROUND ROCK, HUTTO AND TAYLOR.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN HOST OUR ANNUAL DISTRICT CAMPOREE. AND THEY SAID THAT THEY KNEW THAT THE CITY DIDN'T ALLOW CAMPING AT REGAIN OR BRUSHY CREEK AMPHITHEATER, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS SOME OTHER PLACE TO RENT SOMETHING.

LOOKING FOR ABOUT 200 SCOUTS. SO THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED IN MY MIND IS WE DO HAVE A BRAND NEW ROAD SO PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OUT EASY.

AND SO I THOUGHT THE MEGA SITE, THEY JUST NEED A PLACE THAT'S FLAT AND THAT THEY CAN BASICALLY PITCH TENTS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT THEY INCLUDED THE EDC AS ADDITIONAL INSURED ON OUR INSURANCE POLICY THAT WE WOULD ALLOW THEM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE CLOSED ON ANY LAND. THERE'S STUFF UNDER CONTRACT.

BUT I DON'T THINK USING IT FOR CAMPING WOULD VIOLATE ANY OF OUR CONTRACTS.

SO I THOUGHT MAYBE WE WOULD LOOK AT LETTING THEM CAMP THERE ONE TIME.

AND SO I BROUGHT YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL THOUGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE LOCATION. WE CAN DETERMINE IF IT'S DECIDED TO DO IT.

WE CAN DETERMINE IT LATER. IT WOULD BE APRIL 10TH TO THE 12TH TO DEPEND ON THE LAND CLOSING.

I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE, IF WE WERE TO LOOK FAVORABLY AT DOING THIS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE, I WOULD IMAGINE, FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE SPINE ROAD AND THEN UP IN THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

IT DOESN'T VIOLATE ANY OF YOUR CONTRACTS. AND YOU ALREADY SAID YOU WANTED THEM ON THE INSURANCE. YOU WANTED THEM TO ADD THE EDC ON THE INSURANCE. SO THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT TWO HOMES AND A GENERAL LIABILITY WAIVER. OF LIABILITY IS ACCOUNTED FOR.

IT'S GREAT. OKAY. DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES, CITY MANAGER? NO, SIR, I DON'T. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW THE USE OF THE LAND TO BE COORDINATED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CAMPOREE. AS LONG AS WE HAVE ADDITIONALLY INSURED.

WHAT WAS IT? A GENERAL LIABILITY WAIVER. GENERAL LIABILITY? YEP. THOSE THOSE THREE THINGS THERE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER THORNTON.

ALRIGHT, OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE.

BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD. AYE. ABSENT. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.

SHERIFF CARLSON I. BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS. AYE.

VICE CHAIR. MORALES. I. THORNTON. AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

I'M HAPPY WITH IT. ARE YOU A GIRL SCOUT? YEAH, BUT I LOVE CAMPING, SO.

HE LIKES BOYS BACK THEN. OH, KINSEY CAN I. GET YOU.

HOLD ON. CLARIFICATION ON THREE. FIVE. OKAY. YEAH.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HANDLE, OR DO YOU WANT STAFF TO I'LL JUST SIT TIGHT FOR THE MAYOR.

I'LL JUST EMAIL CHENEY AND JUST SAY, WE DID THIS AND I'LL COPY YOU ON IT.

BUT OH, WE HAVE ITEM THREE SIX CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R, DASH 2025 345 TO APPROVE OWNER CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT FOR THE BRUSHY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR PHASE FOUR PROJECT.

MOTION TO APPROVE R 2025 345 AS PRESENTED. SECOND DESPITE COUNCILMAN PORTOFINO SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KEANE.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? THAT YOU TWO GUYS ARE DOWN THERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WRITING, Y'ALL.

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MAKE SURE ALL THIS GOES SUPER SMOOTH BECAUSE WE WANT TO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE POWER OF EXECUTE OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE. ALL THIS IS TIED TO, THE ONE THAT'S BASICALLY THE TRUNK LINE FOR THE 130 THAT ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UP THERE HAS TO BE DONE IN ORDER FOR ALL THAT TO KICK OFF, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT WOULD CONNECT INTO THAT ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YES. THIS IS THE ONE. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT POINTS.

YOU HAVE PHASE TWO WHICH IS ALREADY IN THE GROUND, BRUSHY CREEK PHASE THREE WHICH IS IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR IS IN BIDDING RIGHT NOW.

AND IT WOULD TAKE US FROM BASICALLY ALMOST THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ALL THE WAY TO THE ENCLAVE LIST.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AVERY LAKE PHASE ONE AND AVERY LAKE PHASE TWO, WHICH ARE BOTH IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW BY A PRIVATE ENTITY.

BUT THE CITY IS GOING TO BID THOSE OUT. THEY WOULD COME ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM UP BY LIMMER ON THE WEST SIDE OF 130, AND THEN CROSS UNDER 130 AND TIE INTO THAT SAME ENCLAVE.

WHICH ONE? WHICH PHASE IS THE TUNNEL CREEK PHASE FOR? THAT'S WHEN IT'S UP FOR BID. YES, SIR. OKAY. DO YOU I MEAN OBVIOUSLY CRYSTAL BALL, BUT ARE YOU ANTICIPATE I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS OF TUNNELING, OR IS THAT MORE OF A SIX, EIGHT MONTHS KIND OF GETTING THIS RIGHT UP TO THE END? WE ARE RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND DID IT OUT.

BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW. IN ORDER FOR US TO HIT THE OCTOBER TIMELINE THAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO WITH THAT DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE TO PUT THIS OUT FOR BID RIGHT NOW, AND THEY HAVE TO START WORK IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS WE AWARD THE CONTRACT.

SO AGAIN, NOT THE WHOLE THING, BUT THIS CONCEIVABLY COULD BE THE GATING ITEM EITHER.

YOU GET THIS. ALL RIGHT. YES. MY LAST QUESTION BY US DOING ALL THESE CHANGES WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACTOR SAYS, KNOCK THIS OUT. IN EIGHT MONTHS, WE GO THROUGH, WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, YOU SAY EIGHT MONTHS.

YOU SURE? ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS. OH YEAH. EIGHT MONTHS.

NO PROBLEM. OKAY. THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OVER HERE ARE PRETTY STEEP.

YOU STILL HAVE EIGHT MONTHS AND 900% THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ECONOMIC SETBACK.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE CITY'S EDC AND IT'S HOLDING UP ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO. YEAH, I MEAN, SO LET ME JUST CLARIFY THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE HAS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES INCLUDED IN IT, AND THEY ARE THE STEEPEST LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN A CONTRACT THAT I HAD THE ENGINEER GO THROUGH THE PROCESS RUNNING ALL THE NUMBERS SO THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY ALL OF THOSE.

BUT THIS VERSION OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE OUT FORBIDDING RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE, I GUESS, PRIVATE VERSION THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE CHAPMAN FIRM LOOK AT.

AND SO AND I WAS TRYING TO SCROLL THROUGH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHICH IS WHY WE HAD THIS MEETING.

SO YOU CAN YOU CAN ADD IT. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDENDUM OR SOMETHING TO THAT ONE.

YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL I'M HOPING FOR.

THIS WHOLE THING IS, IS THE EDC. NOT EVERYBODY'S HEARD IT.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS. I WANT A CONTRACTOR TO STAY AWAKE AT NIGHT, CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE BEHIND SCHEDULE, JUST LIKE STAFF IS GOING TO BE THAT WAY OR HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS TO WHERE, HEY, I GOT ALL THESE PROJECTS PUMPING HOLES AND ALL THIS, THIS GUY, THIS COMPANY HAS GOT TO HIT THIS DEADLINE.

UNLESS WE GOT SOME KIND OF SERIOUS FORCE MAJEURE ITEM.

ANY OTHER COMMENTARY? ALRIGHT. PORTOFINO.

SECOND. ROLL CALL. THOMAS IS NOT HERE. PORTERFIELD.

RIGHT HERE. I GORDON IS NOT HERE. CUSTOMER A CUSTOMER MORRIS I MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON A MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM THREE SEVEN. CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 346.

TO APPROVE A CHAPTER 380 FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND THE HUTTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WHICH THE CITY HAS OR WILL DELEGATE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 2025 346 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMAN. PORTOFINO.

COUNCILMAN. KING. A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

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HEARING NONE. WINJE. NOT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KING.

A MAYOR A COUNCILMAN MORRIS. A MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON A MR..

THOMPSON. NOT HERE, COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ITEM, LEGAL WISE? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ITEM.

UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING FOR ME TO SEE. IT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS, MAYOR, THAT YOU HAD REQUESTED BE ON THE AGENDA.

AND THIS IS THE WAY WE COULD DO IT. NO. THAT'S PERFECT.

I THINK SOMETHING CAME UP IN THE MEANTIME OF THAT.

I'LL CALL IT. I'LL JUST SAY WHAT IT WAS. WE'LL JUST PULL OUT THE REGULAR SESSION.

ITEM 41, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING LEGAL MATTERS.

CLOSURE OF THE RAILROAD CROSSINGS ON HCDC PROPERTY.

ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS I FORGOT WHO TOLD IT TO ME AND YOU GUYS MAY KNOW THIS.

IT WAS PART OF OUR ARPA AGREEMENT WITH ME. I POINTED IT OUT WITH THE COUNTY, WAS SENTENCED IN THE ARPA AGREEMENT FOR THE FUNDS THAT THE CITY ENDORSED, THE CLOSING OF THOSE SO CROSSINGS. SO FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WE ENDORSED IT.

I GUESS FROM EDC STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHERE THE LANDOWNER WOULD HAVE TO.

YEAH. THE EDC WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

EXACTLY. BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE WE ENDORSED IT, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE I HAD.

SO IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE BACK ON IT. EDC HOW MANY CROSSINGS ARE THERE TOTAL? I THINK THERE'S TWO. THE CITY ENDORSED, I THINK ONE, THOUGH THE AGES AGO THAT THE EDC HAD ALREADY APPROVED ON CLOSING, I FEEL LIKE. SO THERE MIGHT ONLY BE ONE. PROBABLY NEED TO GO BACK.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FURTHER FROM ONE OF THE SPURS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.

SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE I GOT DOCUMENTATION FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY FROM HNTB TECHNICALLY, BUT THEY MANAGED THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM AND THEY HAD DOCUMENTS, I THINK, FOR TWO CLOSURES SIGNED BY BOB BACK IN MAY OF 23.

OKAY, THEN WE'VE ALREADY ENDORSED IT. WELL, NO, BECAUSE SEE, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I THINK BOB NOT AN ATTORNEY.

BOB DOESN'T WORK FOR THE EDC. BOB WORKS FOR THE CITY.

HE WAS IT WASN'T IT? YEAH, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. I MEAN, THERE WAS PROBABLY ACTION BEHIND THAT, BUT, I MEAN, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. I'M NOT ABOUT TO EDC BECAUSE WE'VE FUMBLED EVERYTHING BACK THEN, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EDC EVER VOTED FOR SO THAT WE, THE CITY COUNCIL, MAY HAVE VOTED FROM THE ARPA STANDPOINT TO GET THE $10 MILLION, BUT, WELL, IT'S ON THE AGENDA. SO WE CAN JUST HAVE THE EDC VOTE ON IT TONIGHT AND JUST PUT IT TO BED.

THAT OVERCROSSINGS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO SUPPORT ARPA AND THE OTHER AND ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY IS THAT.

WELL, YOU MAY WANT A LEGAL THING BECAUSE ARTHUR ALREADY GOT THE MONEY AND CASH A CHECK.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FROM THE 132 ACCESS THAT WE NEED.

I'VE NOT HAD ANY INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THEN WE NEED TO WAIT ON IT, THEN. ALL RIGHT, BRING THAT BACK AT EDC LATER. YEAH. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. FIVE ONE CONSIDERATION POLICY RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE.

ANY THERE? WELL, YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND USE THAT TO DIRECT THE AGENDA ITEM.

SO THAT WAY IT'S PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE. YEAH.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. USE THE ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DIRECT THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE EDC.

SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY ACTED UPON AND IT'S IN THE MINUTES.

YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S A EDC CALL. YEAH. I THINK FOR THIS ONE SINCE WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK.

I DON'T THINK IT IT NEEDS OFFICIAL ACTION. YEAH.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN AT 6:19 P.M., AND THE EDC IS ADJOURNED AT 619 AS WELL.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.