* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. UM, CALLING [(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on December 8, 2025.] TO ORDER HATO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING MONDAY, DECEMBER 8TH, 2025. THE TIME IS SIX THIRTY THREE. UM, ROLL CALL CHAIR. CARLSON VICE CHAIR MORALES. HERE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. HERE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. HERE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON. HERE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD. HERE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS HERE. ALL RIGHT. I RISE FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE P THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO DO WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. LIBERTY OF JUSTICE? HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGED P TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE. OH MY GOD. OPENING FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. NO MA'AM. HEARING NONE. MOVING ON. UH, ECONOMIC DIRECTOR'S REPORT. ITEM 5.1. ALRIGHT, LOTS OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON. IT'S A BUSY TIME OF YEAR. UM, FIRST OF ALL, WANTED TO THANK THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE RIBBON CUTTING AND NAMING CEREMONY FOR THE SPINE ROAD NOW OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS KRUGER BOULEVARD. SO THANK YOU, UH, FOR THAT SUPPORT. THAT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY, THE 21ST OF NOVEMBER. UM, STAYING WITH THE SPINE ROAD, UH, THE ONLY OUTSTANDING ITEM NOW IS RELATED TO WASTEWATER. SO PER CITY ENGINEER, WE DO HAVE SOME PERSISTING PUMP ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WITH PLANS TO TAKE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ACCEPTANCE IN JANUARY. AND THAT FULFILLS THE LAST REQUIREMENT FOR OUR STRAT THREE CONTRACTS SO WE CAN PROCEED WITH CLOSING. UM, WANTED TO SHARE A FEW EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD GOING ON. UM, I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE CHAMBERS DEVELOPER NETWORKING EVENT ON THE 13TH. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. LOTS OF GOOD CONNECTIONS, MADE LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS. I WAS ABLE TO SHARE WITH THEM, UM, PROJECT UPDATES, FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY CAN FIND, UH, DETAILS ABOUT THOSE UPCOMING OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN SOME PENDING POLICIES THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING DOWN THE LINE WITH REGARD TO PERMITTING REVIEW TIMES, AND THEN, UH, THE EDC TAKING ON SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS. SO, UM, I THINK OVERALL IT WAS A REALLY GOOD EVENT, SO I WAS HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT IN THE CHAMBER. UM, AND THEN ON THE 19TH WE HAD THE YMCA INSPIRATIONAL LUNCHEON AND WE WERE ABLE TO ATTEND WITH LOT BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION. SO APPRECIATE THE INVITATION THERE. THAT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE A BRE UPDATE. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A YEAR OR SO TO GET THE RIGHT PERSON AT HE ONE WAY OVER IN INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK. AND BY WAY OF IT'S ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW. SO WE ACTUALLY GOT COPIED ON AN EMAIL WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS A CONTACT AT HEERA ONE WAY ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND CONNECT AND WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR FIRST BRE VISIT WITH 'EM, UM, ON THE 19TH. SO WE WERE REALLY HAPPY TO, TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. SO WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IN THE BUILDING, AND THEN ALSO SOME UPDATES ABOUT SOME FUTURE EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES AND ALSO SOME VERTICAL INTEGRATION OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING DIFFERENT COMPANIES IN THEIR SUPPLY NETWORK, UM, PEER TO HUDDLE. SO IT'S REALLY SUCCESSFUL INITIAL VISIT. SO HAPPY TO SHARE THAT. UM, WILCO EDP. WE HAD OUR BOARD MEETING ON FRIDAY. JUDGE SNELL WAS IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL. AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND WATER AND ELECTRICITY NEEDS AND PLANS. UM, THE COUNTY'S HAVING A MEETING, I BELIEVE THIS WEDNESDAY TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS, UM, PLAN AND, UM, STUDY IS GOING TO ENTAIL, UM, THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT WILCO IS ENGAGING IN A WATER STUDY AND WATER CON CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UH, MORE TO COME ON THAT. BUT THE BOARD ALSO DISCUSSED INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR SPACEPORT DESIGNATION THAT WILCO HAS. SO WE ARE SEEING SOME REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION COME THROUGH FOR THE SPACE INDUSTRY. AND, UM, CENTRAL TEXAS SPACEPORT DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAD THEIR FIRST BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT THE COUNTY IS PUTTING SOME MORE FOCUS ON. UM, AND WE ARE SEEING SOME INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THAT, LIKE I SHARED. SO ONE OTHER SECTOR THAT, UM, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WILCO EDP SHARED THAT HE THINKS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A GROWTH SECTOR IS AG TECH. UM, SO JUST VERY BASELINE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE COMING THROUGH FOR THAT. BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT AS [00:05:01] A POSSIBLE SECTOR OF INTEREST FOR THE BOARD. UM, THEY'RE ALSO COMPLETING A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN SPRING OF 2026. SO I'LL SHARE THAT, UH, WHEN IT'S COMPLETED AND, AND SHARED OUT WITH US. UM, WE'RE ALSO STARTING THE PLANNING FOR OUR OFFICIAL SPINOFF EVENT FOR SELECT USA NEXT SPRING. UM, THAT WAS A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL EVENT LAST YEAR. WE HAD 10 DECISION MAKING FOLKS FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COME AND TOUR WILCO AND VISIT WITH EACH OF THE CITIES. AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHARE ALL OF THE AVAILABLE SITES THAT WE HAVE AND, UH, PERTINENT INFORMATION AND, AND GET KIND OF THEIR PRIORITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE NEEDING AND LOOKING FOR. SO, UM, THEN ALSO WE HAD OUR HOLIDAYS AND HURO MARKET AND DRONE SHOW. THIS LAST WEEKEND. WE HAD OVER 3,500 ATTENDEES AND CLOSE TO 50 VENDORS. SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT CAME OUT AND VOLUNTEERED. I KNOW A BOARD MEMBER, SNYDER AND BOARD MEMBER MORRIS WERE AT THE CITY OF HU BOOTH FOR SEVERAL HOURS. HELPING US OUT, GREETING PEOPLE, ANSWERING QUESTIONS, ENGAGING, UH, AND THEN THANKING PEOPLE FOR COMING OUT. SO THAT WAS REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT SHOW OF SUPPORT. SO IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED. UM, UPCOMING. WE HAVE THE HIPPO CLAUSE CRAWL ON SATURDAY THE 13TH. WE HAVE LESS THAN A HUNDRED TICKETS LEFT FOR GENERAL ADMISSION AND WE HAVE SOLD OUT OF THE VIP COMPONENT. WE HAVE MORE STOPS AND MORE ACTIVATIONS, UH, THIS YEAR THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR. SO WE CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THAT EVENT. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE GOT THE AFTER PARTY AND COSTUME CONTEST DOWN AT HALL OF FAME ALSO. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ATTEND GENERAL ADMISSION GOING FAST. UH, DOWNTOWN HUDDLE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION HAS THEIR NEXT QUARTERLY MEETING ON MONDAY THE 15TH HERE AT CITY HALL. SO I'LL BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THAT. UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THEIR UPDATES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT ON THE 18TH AND THE CHAMBER GALA ON FEBRUARY 24TH. SO THOSE ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED AT AN UPCOMING ITEM TONIGHT. SO I WILL SAVE THAT FOR THAT ITEM. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU, JENNY. THANK YOU. YEAH. HOW MANY, EXCUSE ME. HOW MANY TOTAL TICKETS ARE BEING SOLD FOR THE UH, SANTA CLAUS CRAWL? UH, WE HAVE 800. ALRIGHT. AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT? THE BRE COMPANY THAT YOU GUYS GOT AHOLD OF? ERO. ONE WAY. NARRO? MM-HMM . HANR. OH MAN, I HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN. H-A-N-A-R-O. AND YOU GUYS WERE TRYING SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET AHOLD OF HIM. MM-HMM . THEY JUST, I DON'T, NOT TRYING TO BE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY, BUT LIKE WHEN WE WENT OVER TO THE BUSINESS, THEY JUST NEVER ANSWERED THE DOOR. SO THEY DID, BUT THERE WAS, UM, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LANGUAGE BARRIER. AND SO THEY THANKED US FOR STOPPING BY AND THERE WASN'T REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE A CONVERSATION WITHOUT HAVING THE APPROPRIATE POINT OF CONTACT TO ASK FOR. SO I MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. IT'S KOREAN. CORRECT. WE KNOW SOMEBODY THAT SPEAKS KOREAN MM-HMM . THAT. I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN'T GET AHOLD OF A COMPANY BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE BARRIER, I THINK WE OUGHT TO USE THE RESOURCE IN OUR HAND AND WE CAN ALWAYS ASK OTHER PEOPLE WE WORK WITH THAT, HEY, CAN WE BORROW YOU FOR A DAY? UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THERE ARE, THERE ARE ON DEMAND TRANSLATION SERVICES THAT CAN BE ACCESSED. THAT MIGHT BE LIKE ON THE SPOT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH SOMEONE OUT. YEAH, I MEAN WE, WE JUST, YEAH, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PERSON THAT SPEAKS, UH, KOREAN. YEAH. BUT I JUST THOUGHT OUT THERE THAT I DON'T THINK SHE'D MIND. I THINK SHE ALSO SPEAKS JAPANESE TOO. AND SPANISH AND ENGLISH . YES. YEAH, SHE WAS VERY, I I JUST, I BRING UP ONLY 'CAUSE I WOULD HATE TO LOSE OUT ON SOMETHING THAT'S AN ISSUE AND WE'RE LIKE, HOW DO WE GET AHOLD OF THEM OR HOW DO WE, UM, I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO TRY TO, UM, FIGURE OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAR COMPANIES COMING FROM KOREA, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO WORK ON, UM, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DO SPEAK SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ANYWAY. ARE THEY LOCATED HERE OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN SOUTH KOREA? THEY HAVE A LOCATION HERE IN HURO, BUT THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED. WELL, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT WOULD SPEAK ENGLISH IF THEY'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS HERE. YEAH. THEY JUST AT THE FRONT HAD TROUBLE FINDING THEM. . I JUST HAD SOME, I SAID WE HAD TROUBLE FINDING THEM, I GUESS THAT PERSON. OKAY. UM, THAT CONCLUDES ITEM FIVE ONE. MOVING ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM 6.1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, 2025. HI, GOOD EVENING BOARD. CHRISTINA BISHOP, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR. AS USUAL. UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A FINANCIAL REPORT FRIDAY AFTERNOON. IT WAS A PRETTY CUT AND DRY MONTH. NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY. UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES ARE $550,000. THE ONLY THING I WANNA DRAW ATTENTION TO IS AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS A REQUEST TO INCLUDE A SCHEDULE AT THE END WITH THE [00:10:01] EDCS CURRENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS. UH, I INCLUDED ONE. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. I INCLUDED EVERYTHING THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD TO FIT ON ONE PAGE, BUT I'M ALSO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THE SCHEDULE. THANKS, CHRISTINA. UM, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. I CANNOT REMEMBER FOR LIFE ME THIS ENTITY, BUT THERE WAS A CHECK FOR 404,000 THAT WENT TO A DASH S 64 CR ONE 19. THAT'S NQ TWO. THE, UM, SALES TAX. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THE, UM, THE DEAL AT THE END. THAT IS VERY HELPFUL. I, I THINK FOR ME, IF WE COULD JUST EACH MONTH MAYBE, UM, ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE STUFF TO IT AND, UM, WHAT I'M THINKING IS MORE LIKE FOR THE, UM, O VVA ONE, I'M TRYING TO ZOOM THIS UP. THE O VVA ONE OH O VVA SAYS AFTER THE GRANT IS EXHAUSTED OR 10 YEARS AFTER CONSTRUCTION. BUT MAYBE JUST A LITTLE DETAIL IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO. IF IT'S JUST LIKE A, UH, IF IT'S A GRANT, LIKE SAY WITH VERA OR IF IT'S A, A REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE RECENT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO BROUGHT UP, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ME. IT WAS MORE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP AND WE THEN WE ALSO KNOW WHAT'S EXPIRING. ESPECIALLY AS WE GET MORE AND MORE THINGS. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD START IN TERMS OF LIKE, HU A WINE BAR IS EARLIEST OF FOUR YEARS AT THE EFFECTIVE DATE. 300, 380 PAYMENTS. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NTE IS, BUT, OR TERMINATION AND A ACCORDANCE TO OTHER PROVISIONS. BUT I SEE, I THOUGHT THEY JUST HAD A GRANT. IS THAT A REIMBURSEMENT? THEY DO? NO. THEY ALSO HAVE A SALES TAX, UH, REIMBURSEMENT AS WELL. OH, THEY DO? YEAH. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ONE THAT IS THE HU WINE BAR. A SO THE A IS THE, UM, REIMBURSEMENT AND THEN THE REGULAR HU WINE BAR, THAT'S AN NTE IS NOT TO EXCEED NOT TO EXCEED. CORRECT. OKAY. OH, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE. NOT THAT EASY. YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME. I'M PRETTY QUICK TO RESPOND TO THOSE . I KNOW. I NEED THAT . I WAS JUST TELLING THE SAME MANAGER. I NEED TO GET IN THAT WHERE I'M EMAILING YOU GUYS . UM, YEAH, SHARON, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN ON THE SPREADSHEET. I CUT IT OFF JUST FOR THIS ONE 'CAUSE IT WAS SO, I GUESS ROBUST. UM, BUT IT HAS LIKE NOTES ON THE SIDE WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE ALL THE DELIVERABLES. UM, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE ON THE, UH, KETONIC ONE, THERE'S $10,000 REMAINING. REALLY THAT PIECE OF THE, UM, UH, GRANTS THAT LAST $10,000 IS JUST IF THEY SUBMIT FOR EMPLOYEES LIVING INSIDE OF HUDU, UM, THEY CAN SUBMIT SOMETHING AND THOSE DOLLARS WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES. SO I CAN INCLUDE, IF IT DOESN'T FIT ON A PRONOUNCED SHEET, I CAN JUST SEND THE EXCEL WORKBOOK TOO SO YOU CAN OH, OKAY. YEAH. SEE, SEE ALL THOSE EXPANDED NOTES AS LIKE ALL THE CONTINGENCIES FOR, OKAY. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. COOL. ANYTHING ELSE OR ANY DISCUSSION ACTION ITEMS. MOTION TO APPROVE FINANCIAL REPORT. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MORALES. SECONDED BY COUNCIL . UH, BOARD MEMBER MORRIS. SORRY, I FORGOT WHERE I WAS. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WHAT DO I SAY AGAIN? CALL TO VOTE. VOTE CALL TO VOTE. . BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER? MORRIS AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD. AYE. MOTION PASSES. WHAT ARE WE? 7 0 6 0. SORRY. ER IN SPIRIT. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6.2. UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING PROJECT TRACKING AND EXPECTATIONS OF PROJECTS SUBMITTED. UH, BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MS. VICE CHAIR. I BROUGHT THIS UP. I WANTED TO, FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE AS A BOARD HAD OUR EXPECTATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT PROJECTS WE WANNA KNOW THAT COME TO US. AND DO WE WANT EVERY PROJECT THAT STAFF HEARS ABOUT THAT WE SOMEWHERE TRACKING AND WE HEAR ABOUT DO WE WANT CERTAIN THINGS AND THEN BASED ON WHAT WE WANT, HOW DO WE WANT THAT GIVEN TO US SO THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE EXPECTATION [00:15:01] IS IN CASE THERE'S DISCREPANCIES? WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW IT'S CURRENTLY BEING FILTERED OR PRESENTED? YES. AS A BASELINE. OKAY. SO EFFECTIVELY WHAT THE BOARD IS, WHAT GETS COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD ARE PROJECTS THAT EITHER ARE ASKING FOR INCENTIVES, ARE, UM, REQUESTING OR HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE LOCATED ON EDC OWNED PROPERTY. UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY KIND OF THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE BEING USED RIGHT NOW TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE A LARGE EMPLOYER, UM, OR WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE INCENTIVES REQUESTED DUE TO THE SIZE, WHETHER THAT BE EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, CAPITAL INVESTMENT, SALES, TAX REVENUE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE BEEN USING THUS FAR. UM, FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE JUST GET INQUIRIES AS PART OF A BLANKET RFI EMAIL FOR RESPONSE, LIKE FROM OA GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, WE'LL GO EDP. THOSE TYPICALLY WE DON'T BRING TO THE BOARD SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY GO TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KNOW WHAT'S REAL, WHAT'S NOT REAL. SO WE TYPICALLY WON'T BRING THOSE UNTIL THERE'S SOME SORT OF INDICATION THAT HUDU IS AN ACTUAL OPTION FOR THAT COMPANY VETTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. YEAH. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF LONG AND SHORT OF IT. BOARD MEMBER, UH, SNYDER, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFICATION. SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT NOT ONLY WHAT THE, WHAT THE DETAILS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, BUT WHAT'S SCOPE OF PROJECTS WE WANNA LOOK AT? YEAH. OR SEE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, ON THE, ON THE OPPORTUNITY, AUSTIN. SO YOU, YOU BRING, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE WAITING UNTIL HUDDLE GETS KIND OF NARROWED DOWN TO THE SEARCH BEFORE. SO THAT CAUSES ME SOME GREAT CONCERN BECAUSE WHEN IT, WHEN THE EMAILS COME OUT, THEY'RE ASKING FOR WHO HAS A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING? MM-HMM . WE'RE GONNA DO A, B, C, D, WE NEED IT IN BY A WEEK. IF WE'RE NOT RESPONDING TO THOSE UNTIL THEY SAY, HEY, YOU'VE MADE THE FINAL THREE, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE FINAL THREE. WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TYPICALLY, UNLESS THAT COMPANY HAS ALREADY DONE THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE AND DECIDED THEY WANT TO LOOK AT HURO KIND OF ON THEIR OWN. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE OA, KIND OF THOSE LARGER, UM, GROUP RESPONSES, WE RESPOND TO THOSE. AND THEN EITHER OA, GOVERNOR, WHOEVER'S LEADING KIND OF THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT AND, AND COMPILING ALL THAT INFORMATION, THEY'RE ENGAGING WITH THE CLIENT TEAM AND SUBMITTING ALL OF THOSE. AND THEN THAT CLIENT TEAM THEN RESPONDS WITH, OKAY, HERE'S THE 15 THAT WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM. AND THEN IF WE GET THAT, THEN WE RESPOND AGAIN. AND THEN USUALLY WE DON'T BRING IT TO Y'ALL UNTIL THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO ENGAGE, LIKE COME FOR A SITE VISIT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. SO IS THERE A TRACKING THAT YOU GUYS DO ON ALL THE OA PROJECTS THAT ARE SENT AND THEN WHICH ONES WE RESPOND TO AND BACK AND FORTH? YES. SO HERE'S WHAT BROUGHT, MADE ME BRING THIS UP. I DON'T KNOW OF A PROJECT THAT HASN'T ORIGINATED FROM HUDA BASED ON OUR OWN. AND SO I GET ALL THESE EMAILS FROM OA AND I START THINKING, MAN, THERE'S LIKE, EVERY DAY THERE'S A PROJECT AND I'M LIKE, NOT ONE OF THESE ARE EVER COMING TO THE EDC IN TERMS OF ANYTHING. AND SO IT MAYBE START WONDERING HOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT DO WE WANNA SEE DONE? DO WE WANNA KNOW AS A BOARD, YOU KNOW, PROJECT, UM, PROJECT MIDNIGHT TIDE MM-HMM . AND DO WE WANNA KNOW THAT THAT WAS A DEAL AND THAT THEY'RE WANTING A SUCH AND SUCH BUILDING AND, AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE 700,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE JUST SITTING THERE VACANT. MM-HMM . WE'VE HAD DEALS FALL THROUGH BECAUSE OF NOT BEING DONE. AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SHARE ALL THIS OBVIOUSLY WITH, UM, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, INDUSTRIAL PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY, SOMEHOW WE'RE TRY AGAIN, I, FROM A BOARD STANDPOINT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE WANT SO THAT WE CAN THEN TELL SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPACE THAT, HEY, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND COMING IN AND, AND THEN ARE WE SHARING WITH THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT WE DO HAVE 600? SO I, I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND THEN I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WANTED, BUT WE GET PROBABLY DAY NEAR PROJECT A DAY JUST FROM OPPORTUNITY AUSTIN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING. YEAH. . UM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE, HEY, WE WANNA LIKE MAKE, YOU KNOW, ALKALINE BATTERIES AND, AND SMELT LEAD. UM, CAN YOU HAVE THIS BACK IN LIKE A WEEK? AND I COULD SEE US SAYING, NO, THANK YOU. UM, BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT AEROSPACE IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING AND MM-HMM . I'M LOOKING AT ONE NOW FOR A DEFENSE INDUSTRY, AEROSPACE, AVIATION. AND SO THEY, THEY HAVE [00:20:01] REQUISITES OR REQUIREMENTS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING. EXACTLY. YEAH. I THINK ONE, ONE THING IS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT WE DO WANT, WHAT WE DON'T WANT. AND THAT, I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING SOME OF THAT TONIGHT AND THEN A BETTER WAY TO FILTER THOSE THINGS COMING IN. SO WE ARE THROWING THE HAT IN THE RING AND WE'RE JUST WAITING UNTIL WE GET SHORTLISTED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS. AND IS THAT OKAY? I THINK THE MORE CLARITY THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE CORPORATION, THE BETTER. AND THEN ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT NOT ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE RELEVANT TO THIS CORPORATION WITH REGARD TO BEING ON YOUR LAND AND YOU GUYS BEING A DECISION MAKING BODY OR INCENTIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SOME OF THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE SOME ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNCIL AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THE CITY WHAT TYPE OF DISCHARGE ELEMENTS THEY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT AT WHAT LEVELS. AND TYPICALLY THAT'S GONNA COME THROUGH OUR INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK COUNCIL GOT A PRESENTATION ON TWO WORKSHOPS AGO, TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO THAT WILL BECOME ONE OF OUR FILTERS, UH, THROUGH WHICH WE WOULD SAY, HEY, NO THANKS, THAT'S, THAT LEVEL'S TOO HIGH. OR THAT'S A SPECIFIC DISCHARGE ELEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT IT. NO WAY. NO HOW. SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW ARE WHEN THEY NEED WATER AND WASTEWATER AND HOW MUCH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EXTREMELY HIGH WASTEWATER DISCHARGE WATER USERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING TO GET AS GOOD OF A GUESS ON WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHEN, SO THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE THINGS THAT WE CAN. AND THEN THINGS THAT ARE JUST WAY TOO FAR OUTSIDE THE REALM OF, OF POSSIBILITY FROM THOSE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WE'RE SAYING NO THANKS TO, OR, OR THINGS LIKE WHERE THEY NEED A THOUSAND ACRES. I'M LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO WE ARE FILTERING SOME OF THAT. AND WE ALSO, UH, TO ADDRESS BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER'S COMMENTS ABOUT ARE WE SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS AND, AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HURO, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE. UM, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO OWN LAND AND HAVE BUILDINGS, UM, ALREADY UP AND READY TO GO OR HAVE ADDITIONAL, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE INNOVATION BUSINESS PARK. THEY'VE GOT SOME SPACE THERE, BUT THEY'VE GOT PLANS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS SO THEY CAN BUILD QUICKLY. IRON WOOD'S GOT EXISTING BUILDINGS UP. WE'VE GOT TITAN OUT AT THE MEGA SITE WHO HAS LAND AND A FAIR, FAIR AMOUNT. SO WE, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THEM AND THEY'VE GIVEN US THEIR BLESSING TO GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT ON THEIR BEHALF AS WELL. SO WE, WE DO RESPOND WITH EVERY POSSIBILITY THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IN ORDER TO, TO GIVE HUDA THE BEST OPPORTUNITY AT LANDING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. SO JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS SOUNDS LIKE PROJECTS THAT COME TO HURO, RIGHT? AND THAT WE'RE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA CONSIDER THEM. WHAT, DO WE NOT HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE INITIATE AND WE REACH OUT TO, UM, INVITE, UH, COMPANIES TO PARTICIPATE? UH, WE MINIMALLY, YES. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT WILL BE FURTHER CLARIFIED AS THIS BOARD STARTS TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS YOU WANT ACTUAL RECRUITMENT EFFORTS TO GO INTO, TO DATE THAT HASN'T BEEN CLARIFIED. SO, AND ALSO I WILL SHARE CANDIDLY, HU'S BEEN IN A REALLY GREAT POSITION WHERE IT'S JUST DRINKING OUTTA THE FIRE HOSE. THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH GROWTH AND ACTIVITY THAT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH COMING IN. WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE GAP THERE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE WITH, THEY HAVE TO GO AFTER EVERY SINGLE THING ALL THE TIME. SO I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE CONCERTED EFFORTS SO THAT WE'RE ALIGNING WITH PRIORITIES, BUT TO DATE WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T ENGAGED THAT WAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANNA BE REACTIVE MM-HMM . RIGHT. AGREED. AND WE WANNA HAVE A PLAN, THE TYPES OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW GOOD BALANCE, YOU KNOW, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, EDUCATION, MEDICAL, ET CETERA. SO WOULD THAT BE WHAT THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR FROM WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD LEAVE IT TO BOARD MEMBER SNYDER TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY WHAT INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE BOARD TO DECIDE ON, SINCE THIS WAS YOUR WELL ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING IT. I THIS WAY I DON'T GET THE SENSE WE'RE RESPONDING TO VERY MANY OF THESE. AND I THINK SOME OF IT IS WE'RE BUSY, BUT ARE WE BUSY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? ARE WE BUSY WITH, AND NOT KNOCKING THIS, BUT LIKE WHEN WE'RE AT THE PRAYER BREAKFAST, I'M BEING TOUGH HERE, BUT TO ME IT'S LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF DOES A PRAYER BREAKFAST ADD TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN WE GO TO THE PRAYER BREAKFAST. IF THE ANSWER IS NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT I WAS INVITED BY SOMEBODY, BUT WE'RE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE. AND IN THAT HOUR AND A HALF WE COULD HAVE HIT THREE EMAILS THAT POTENTIALLY WERE, PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE 'CAUSE THESE ARE ALL LIKE, NEED IT NEXT WEEK, NEED IT NEXT WEEK. THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. SO IF YOU COMPILE ALL THESE, YOU'VE GOT LIKE, UM, THIS [00:25:01] GUY NEEDS 400 KILOWATTS OF POWER, NATURAL GAS, NOT USE WATER TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT'S AN INORDINATE AMOUNT. SOMEONE ELSE WILL SAY, I NEED 600 GALLONS. AND SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH ALL THESE, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GO TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM AND SUBMIT, BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU HAVE A SHEET, LIKE, LOOK, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE 600,000 SQUARE FEET, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. AND THEN, THEN ALL YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS, OH, THEY ASKED A QUESTION WE HADN'T ASKED BEFORE. SO IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD UPDATE THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF INFORMATION, ADD IT, AND THEN JUST, I'M REPLYING EVERY SINGLE THING BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CITIES OUT THERE, UM, THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, LIKE, SAY ROUND ROCK IN GEORGETOWN, THEY'RE RESPONDING TO EVERY SINGLE THING. NOW, DO I EXPECT SOMEONE TO GO THROUGH AND SPEND 45 MINUTES EVERY TIME AN EMAIL COMES OUT? NO. BUT IF WE TAKE THE SAME INFORMATION INSTEAD OF MM-HMM . REDOING IT EACH TIME, AND WE GO, THERE'S GOTTA BE AN EASIER WAY. THEY'RE LITERALLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TEMPLATE OF SORTS. YEAH. LIKE, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. I MEAN, THERE'S A TEMPLATE. WHAT'S THAT THERE? I MEAN, IS THERE A TEMPLATE? WELL, I THINK THERE COULD BE, 'CAUSE THE, THE SALES SPREADSHEET IS PRETTY, IT IS PRETTY BASIC STUFF AT THIS POINT. UM, BUT LIKE THIS ONE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 ACRES. INTERSTATE HIGHWAY WITH CLEAR ENTRY EXIT ACCESS WITHIN 10 TO 15 MILES. PREFERABLY I 35 WE'RE 10 POINT, LIKE TWO MILES FROM 35. THEY HAVE A SITE VISIT DECEMBER 25. WELL, THIS EMAIL CAME OUT LITERALLY FIVE DAYS AGO. DECEMBER 25. THEY WANNA MEET THIS MONTH, FINAL SITE SELECTION THIS MONTH. THEY WANNA ACQUIRE STAR CONSTRUCTION IN 26 AND THEY NEED FIVE MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRICITY. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT TO ME. BUT, UM, AND THEN DUAL REDUNDANT GRIDS. SO THINGS LIKE THAT. DO I EXPECT US NECESSARILY TO WANT THAT? NO, NOT NECESSARILY. BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND SO THIS MAY BE A DATA CENTER, IT MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEONE WANTING TO MAKE BATTERIES AGAIN. SO HOW COME? BUT IF WE HAVE JUST A SHEET WE CAN FIRE OFF TO PEOPLE. RIGHT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT'S A SMART IDEA, BUT I'M STILL NOT CLEAR. HOW DO THESE GET FUNNELED IN? DO THEY ALL COME TO YOU CHENEY, OR DO THEY GO TO YOUR STAFF? OR HOW DO, HOW DO THEY COME IN? THE ONES FROM OPPORTUNITY AUSTIN COME TO MYSELF AND JENNIFER, WHO'S OUR MARKETING SPECIALIST. SO SHE'S THE ONE THAT IS CHARGED WITH RESPONDING TO ALL OF THESE. UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO WEIGH IN ON FOR SOME REASON. BUT SHE HANDLES THAT RESPONSE. UM, THE ONES FROM WILCO, EDP COME DIRECTLY TO ME, UH, AS DO THE STATE. AND SO IS THERE, WOULD IT BE TOO OVERWHELMING TO HAVE, UM, LIKE A LIST OF ALL THAT COMES IN AND MAYBE PRIORITIZE THEM SO WE KNOW THE TYPE A OR THE TOP WHATEVER'S 10, AND THEN THE TYPE B AND THEN TYPE C. IS IT POSSIBLE TO AGGREGATE THEM THAT WAY? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IF, IF STAFF IS AWARE OF WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE, THEN WE CAN PRIORITIZE ACCORDINGLY. SO THEN WE COULD DEVELOP A TEMPLATE. LIKE, UM, YOU SUGGEST, THAT'S THE THING. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO VAGUE. HERE'S ONE THAT CAME IN THIS MORNING. THEY WON A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A MONTH. I DON'T SEE THE CITY COUNCIL VOTING FOR THAT, NO MATTER HOW BAD WE WANT IT. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WATER. UM, BUT IF IT'S, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I DO AT WORK. I WORK, I'M NOT THE FASTEST RESPONDING ON EVERYTHING. OKAY. I WORK EVERY SITE THAT'S BROUGHT TO ME, IF ANYTHING, TO KNOW HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS ON SOMETHING? UNLESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF HIGH WATER USERS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'RE DOING? IS THAT PHARMACEUTICAL? MM-HMM . IS THAT SOME KIND OF NEW TECH THAT'S COMING THROUGH? WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE SEEING? AND WE MAY NOT WANT IT, BUT HEY, AT LEAST WE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE BROKERS THAT I'VE EVER DEALT WITH, THE ONES THAT RESPOND TO YOU, I RESPOND BACK. MM-HMM . THE ONES YOU NEVER HEAR FROM THAT NEVER RESPOND TO YOU, I NEVER CALL THEM BACK. AND SO I NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM. MM-HMM . AND SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A ASKING QUESTIONS, ASKING THEM QUESTIONS. AND IT MAY BE YOU COULD GET A PIECE OF IT. YEAH. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A VERY TIME CONSUMING, JUST WHAT'S THE FASTEST WAY WE CAN HAVE AN EAR TO THE GROUND KNOW ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN SOME WAY TO KIND OF TRACK IT TO KIND OF KNOW, LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE START GETTING ON THEIR DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO, WELL, LOOK, YOU GUYS SAID NOT HIGH WATER USERS. HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE COMING THROUGH FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS, HAS ALL BEEN X. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING, BUT AS WE FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE, WE'RE NOT PURSUING 'EM ANYMORE. UM, OR IT COULD BE LIKE, HEY, WE, WE WANT DATA CENTERS. OH, OKAY, WELL THIS GROUP HERE WANTS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE FILTRATION WILL HAPPEN WITH THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER'S LIKE, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU ANYTHING UNTIL YOU TELL ME WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO. AND THAT DEVELOPER'S ALSO GONNA KNOW WHAT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE CITY ARE BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE HAD DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. HMM. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S [00:30:01] SOME WORK THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE TWICE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY'RE COMING TO YOU SAYING THEY WANT A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A MONTH, THEY BETTER TELL YOU WHY. , I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, THEY JUST DON'T YEAH. WE, WE WORKED ON ONE. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T, WHAT WAS THAT? WAS THAT GARDEN? MM-HMM . THAT WAS LIKE, UH, I'M GONNA THROW OUT A NUMBER. I THINK IT WAS LIKE 5 MILLION. WAS IT NOT LIKE 5 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER OR SOMETHING A MONTH? IT WAS LIKE MASSIVE. AND WE, UH, I THINK YOU DON'T KNOW. THAT'S NOT NO, THAT'S NOT AS MASSIVE AS YOU THINK IT IS. A MILLION GALLONS A MONTH IS 33,000 GALLONS A DAY. WE'RE GETTING 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S 1.7%. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT OF THE 2 MILLION GALLONS. SEE, HE'S THE MATH GUY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. . SO THAT IS, THAT IS A BIG USER IN TERMS OF ONE USER, BUT IT'S NOT A BIG USER IN TERMS OF OUR SUPPLY. WELL, NO, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT THE, THAT'S THE DEBATES WE SHOULD BE HAVING, I GUESS IN A WAY THAT'S THE SIZE USER WE'D ACTUALLY LIKE RIGHT NOW, I THINK BECAUSE IT, IT, IT HELPS. SO GOOD TO KNOW. A MILLION A DAY. NO, A MILLION A MONTH. YEAH. YEAH. BUT TO MY POINT, LET'S, WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THEY DON'T TELL YOU . YEAH. THEY JUST SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. AND THEN LITERALLY, I THINK WE MADE IT TO THE TOP THREE MM-HMM . SITES, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAME IN, THEN THEY DID A SLIDESHOW, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. BUT THAT DIDN'T COME TO US FROM OA THAT CAME TO US FROM THE DEVELOPER. UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAD THE WATER LOCKED UP. UH, KIND OF SORTA. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING ELSE THAT GOES ON DOWN THERE. WE, WE ON THAT PROPERTY FOUR TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS. BUT, UM, SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE BEFORE THEY GET TO THE DEVELOPER? NO. SO IN MY, IF I WAS JUST A ONE MAN PERSON, I WOULD SAY THIS. WE HAD A SPREADSHEET. EVERYONE THAT CAME IN, WE HAD, WE, WE HAD TWO THINGS. WE TRACKED EVERYBODY THAT CAME IN AND THE BIG THINGS, THE WATER, THE ELECTRICITY AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, FOOTPRINT. OH, THAT. YEAH. SO AT LEAST WE KNOW LIKE, HEY, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS. OKAY, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INCENTIVIZE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ONES. BUT IF EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS, LET'S NOT GO INCENTIVIZE HALF A MILLION ONES. THAT'S ONE SIDE. THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS, UM, WE, WE ANSWER 'EM ALL. AND THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS WE HAVE SOME KINDA LIKE TOP 200 FACTS IN OUR CITY THAT HAS THE BULK OF THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN JUST GET IT, SEND IT, GET IT, SEND IT, ADJUST IT. UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE CHENEY DOING ALL THE WORK BECAUSE SHE'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PERSON WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT. BUT IF THE INFORMATION'S THERE AND SOMEBODY ELSE CAN RESPOND EACH TIME, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO KNOW WHAT ALL OF IT MEANS. THEY JUST KNOW, HEY, POWER SAYS 2000, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE. UM, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW. AND THE OTHER THING IS I'VE MET WITH, WITH SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, I DON'T WANNA SAY THEY LIE, BUT THEY'RE VERY MISLEADING. THEY SAY THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK, BUT THIS ONE PARTICULAR COMPANY, NOT ONE PERSON HAD A NEW YORK ACCENT, BUT THEY ALL WERE, THEY, THEY WOULD ONLY TELL YOU THEIR FIRST NAME. THEY WOULDN'T TELL A COMPANY THEY WERE WITH, BUT THEY ALL WORE NEW YORK GIANT STUFF THAT TOLD ME THEY'RE NOT FROM NEW YORK. THEY'RE PLAYING A GAME. AND UH, I DON'T EVEN CARE WHERE THEY'RE FROM, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ILLUSION. THEY'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO THAT'S LITERALLY THE, THE WORK THAT THEY GO TO TRY TO CLOUD. BUT DON'T WE CHECK ON THESE, ON THE COMPANIES THAT WANNA ESTABLISH THEMSELVES? DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE. EVENTUALLY, YES. I MEAN, THEY'LL TELL YOU, BUT DON'T WE OURSELVES OUT NOT EARLY ENOUGH FOR US TO DISCUSS THEY'RE PROJECT NAMES. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT GETS TO LEGAL. WE DO SOS REVIEW AND SO FORTH. AND WE HAD A PROJECT YEARS AGO, I THINK DAN WOULD REMEMBER IT, IT WAS AN AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER WHO DIDN'T SIGN THE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A, UH, ACTUAL COMPANY THAT COULD DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS. AND SO, AND THAT, THAT THAT ONE FAILED YEARS AGO. BUT, UM, SO YES, WE, WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE, THE, UM, THE LEGAL CAPACITY TO OPERATE AND DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS ARE, ARE IN PLACE BEFORE WE DO A CONTRACT. SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MUCH FARTHER DOWN BECAUSE RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT AND MANY TIMES THOUGH, AFTER HOW MANY DEVELOPERS, THOUSANDS OF HOURS HAVE BEEN, RIGHT. EXACTLY. INVESTED. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING THOUGH, MANY, MANY DEVELOPERS THOUGH, IS THAT EVERYTHING IS A SINGLE, SINGLE PURPOSE LLC. AND SO THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE IT CREATED YET WHEN THEY'RE NEGOTIATING MM-HMM . AND THEN THEY'LL SET IT OFTENTIMES THEY'LL 30 DAYS BEFORE CLOSURE. YEAH. THEY'LL PUT IT UNDER CONTRACT UNDER ONE ENTITY WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO GET THEIR OTHER ONE. AND THEN THEY ASSIGN IT IN THE MIDDLE ONE. WELL, WITH AI NOWADAYS AND WHAT SYSTEMS WE HAVE, CAN WE NOT RUN AN INITIAL CHECK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS? WHAT, WHAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THERE'S NOTHING TO CHECK BECAUSE YES. 'CAUSE THEY'RE CREATING A NEW, UM, OR I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT LAND UNDER CONTRACT, BUT YOU CAN INVESTIGATE THE PERSON THAT'S YOU, YOU MAYBE, BUT I MEAN, YOU'D BE SURPRISED IF WHEN MIKE STEINERS ARE OUT THERE, YOU'LL NEVER, NEVER KNOW. IT'S THE HUNT FAMILY UNTIL ALREADY USUALLY THE PERSON. YEAH. USUALLY THE PERSON THAT'S TALKING TO YOU IS NOT THE DECISION MAKER. THEY'RE THE, THE BOOTS IN THE GROUND PERSON WHO'S JUST THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE DECISION MAKER AND, AND THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY OBFUSCATE [00:35:01] THE STAKEHOLDERS. REALLY, THE PROCESS IS, IS REAL. ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL OR NOT, BUT I KNOW IN MY PAST, I'VE USED A FAKE NAME WITH A FAKE COMPANY, GONE TO A MARKET, PUT SEVERAL SITES UNDER CONTRACT, AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE CLOSING, I MADE SURE I HAD A SIGNABLE LANGUAGE. AND RIGHT BEFORE CLOSING, I SIGNED IT TO A REAL ENTITY WITH A REAL PERSON THAT HAD AUTHORITY TO SIGN AND CLOSE WITH THE INTENT. NOBODY, WE DID NOT WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO JUST GET ON THIS THING IS, IS THERE A WAY, IS A BOARD INTERESTED IN A HIT SHEET AT THE TOP, WHATEVER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, HOW MUCH SOME OF THESE WANT SQUARE FOOTAGE IMMEDIATELY TO MOVE IN. SO WE SHOULD KNOW THAT PROBABLY WE HAVE X AMOUNT AND THEN WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS PROBABLY PERMITTED. LIKE WITH STRAT THREE HAS PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY PERMITTED SOME HAVE ALL THAT DOWN. AND THEN WHEN THESE, WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME IN, WE CAN JUST FIRE IT OFF. AND THEN WE KEEP TRACK, WE HIT THIS PERSON, WE HIT THIS PERSON, WE DID THIS ONE. UM, AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, JUST SO WE COULD LOOK BACK QUARTERLY MAYBE, AND GO, MAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BIG USERS RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING PEOPLE, WHICH TELLS ME, IN MY MIND, MAYBE THE MARKET'S SOFTENING. AND SO THE BIG GUYS ARE ON THE SIDELINES AND THE SMALL GUYS ARE LIKE, I'LL TAKE THE BARE MINIMUM. UM, BUT MONTHS. BUT I DON'T KNOW. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MARKET TR LIKE THE BROKERS, I WOULD IMAGINE, I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT, BUT THEY'RE TRACKING EVERYTHING AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND PUT OUT REPORTS ABOUT INDUSTRIAL SPACE, OCCUPANCY RATES AND ALL THAT. AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR IS WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA SEE. I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TALKING ABOUT THIS CHECKLIST IS WHAT I THINK OF IT, OR TEMPLATE OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE EDC WOULD WANT TO LIST THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING. LIKE WE GOT MILLIONS OF SQUARE FOOT. SO THAT'S TO BE ON THE INDICES THAT WE ENCOURAGE, BUT ALSO PUT ON THERE THE INDICES THAT WE DISCOURAGE, HEY, WE CAN'T DO 10 MILLION, DO 10 MILLION GALLONS A MONTH, WHATEVER IT IS. I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE. AND JUST SAY, WE, WE, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS HERE. SO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS THAT WE WANT, BUT ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS WE DON'T WANT. AND THAT BECOMES JUST THE BASIC ONE PAGE CHECKLIST. AND THEN THEY CAN WRITE THE DETAILS IN LATER. BUT I'M NOT HERE TO CREATE THE DOCUMENT, BUT JUST KIND OF WITH THE SCOPE OR THE INTENTION OF THE DOCUMENT. YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE DECIDE, HEY, WE DON'T WANT, WELL, WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY IS FOR LIKE SMELTING BATTERIES OR SO NO REASON I USE THAT AS WE HAVE TOXIC A PROJECT COME TO US. IT WAS LIKE, I THINK IT WAS A, UM, WHAT WAS THAT? LUCAS BROUGHT IT UP. WHAT WAS THAT BATTERY COMPANY THAT CAME HERE? UH, THEY MAKE, UH, LITHIUM BATTERIES, RIGHT? YEAH, LITHIUM. HE BROUGHT IT, HE SAID, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE WATER IF IT LEAKS OR ANY OF THAT? I'M LIKE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. WE WERE ALL EXCITED FOR THE INVESTMENT. AND HE STARTED SAYING THAT. I SAID, WELL, MAYBE WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. AND SO I THINK, YEAH, THAT MAKES A GOOD THING TO WHERE YOU COME IN AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY USES X AMOUNT OF WATER MORE PER DAY. UM, BECAUSE, BUT IF , IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A SHOWSTOPPER, BUT IT'S TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON WATER. HEY, WE HAVE LIMITATION ON, ON, UH, MAYBE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING AN, SOME TYPE OF EXCAVATION OR QUARRY OR, UM, CONCRETE PLANT SOMETHING. THERE'S, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT RUNOFF, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, SOIL GETTING INTO THE, UH, TO THE, THE CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHATEVER OUR LIMITATIONS ARE, WHATEVER OUR ENCOURAGEMENT ARE, I THINK THAT THAT ONE CHECKLIST, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, JUST ENCOURAGE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT AND DISCOURAGE THE THINGS WE WANT. BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT SHOWSTOPPERS. THEY'RE NOT LIKE, X YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT WISH. COULD STAFF MAKE A RECOMMENDATION JUST BASED ON CONVERSATION? YEAH. UM, HOW WOULD BOARD FEEL ABOUT STAFF BRINGING BACK A PROPOSED TRACKER WITH SOME OF THESE, UM, IDENTIFIERS THAT WE WANNA TRACK SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TRENDS, BUT THEN ALSO SOME THINGS THAT BASED ON TALKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING ARE SOME LIMITATIONS THAT WE ANTICIPATE OR ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING SO THAT THE BOARD CAN THEN SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE, WE AGREE WITH THIS. OR HEY, AS LONG AS IT'S, IT'S ABLE TO BE HANDLED BY OUR INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT PROGRAM, WHEN THAT'S UP AND RUNNING, IT'S FINE. 'CAUSE ESSENTIALLY APPROVAL OF THAT IS COUNSEL SAYING, YES, WE APPROVE OF, OF THESE DISCHARGE AMOUNTS AND, AND CHEMICALS BEING PUT INTO OUR WASTEWATER TO BE TREATED AT OUR TREATMENT PLANT. AND THAT WAY THE BOARD CAN WEIGH IN IN JANUARY AT THE MEETING AND SAY, YES, THESE ARE THE METRICS THAT WE WANT TO TRACK SO THAT WE CAN REFLECT BACK AND PIVOT IF WE NEED TO. AND THEN WE ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY WE AREN'T RESPONDING TO CERTAIN THINGS AND WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT. AND IF WE ARE RESPONDING TO THINGS, WHAT'S THE OUTCOME OF THAT? DOES THAT, I LIKE THAT A LOT. EXCEPT FOR THE, I'D BE HESITANT ON, I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AND ALL THAT SAID, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARM. MM-HMM . AND TO ME, WE SHOULD JUST BE PUSHING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. [00:40:01] THE COUNCIL SIDE, THE STAFF SIDE'S GONNA COME BACK. AND I THINK FROM THEIR POINT, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, OKAY, IF YOU GUYS WANT X, THEN PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA COME BACK AND SAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO Y AND THEN I THINK THEN THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR US TO MAKE IN TERMS OF DO WE WANT THAT INVESTMENT. UM, TO ME WE SHOULD JUST BE ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE IT'S GOING. BECAUSE THE MORE WE HAVE, THEN WE CAN PULL BACK ON THE INCENTIVES AND THEN WE CAN SAY, HEY GUYS, THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE THAT WANT THE SAME BUILDING. YOU WANT FIRST ONE THAT SIGNS A DEAL AND IS DONE, CAN BUY IT, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING INCENTIVES, WE'RE NOT DOING INFRASTRUCTURE. OR YOU KNOW WHAT, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT I, I DO LIKE THAT, THAT IDEA. YEAH, I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. UH, ALSO, AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INTO THE MINUTIAE OF HOW YOU DO THIS, BUT I MEAN, LOOKING AT TREND, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS? AND IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THESE INITIAL, UM, INQUIRIES. INQUIRIES, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN THE PATTERN THAT WE SEE? AND I KNOW MARKET CHANGE WELL IN MY HEAD, BUT WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE, ARE THEY ASKING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? AND JUST LOOK PAST, LOOK BACK THE LAST SIX, 12 MONTHS MAYBE THAT THAT'S A TOO LARGE OF A NUMBER, BUT TAKE SOME SAMPLINGS OF WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN ASKING ABOUT? AND THEN MAYBE, AND THAT, AND THAT CAN CHANGE OVER TIME AS THE MARKET SWITCHES SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. MAYBE NOT EVEN POST MAYBE SOME OF THE OBSOLETE, BUT LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN GO, WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN ASKING AND THEN TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT GOING FORWARD. YEAH, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT. ALSO, SOMETHING TO ALSO INCLUDE IN THE, UH, PROPOSED SPREADSHEET FOR TRACKING IS KIND OF WHAT SECTOR. SO THEN THAT WAY WE'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING AT HOW MUCH ACREAGE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OR HOW MUCH WATER OR WASTEWATER OR WHAT CHEMICALS OR WHATEVER. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT SECTORS SEEM TO BE TRENDING UP OR DOWN. SO THEN THAT CAN HELP INFORM ANY POTENTIAL RECRUITMENT EFFORTS OR REPRIORITIZATION OF TARGET SECTORS. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I'LL ADD THAT. AND WHILE THERE'S VALUE IN LOOKING BACKWARDS FROM NOW, THE MOST VALUE IS NOT HAVING TO DO THAT WORK IN THE FUTURE. MM-HMM. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE SYSTEM IN PLACE. YEAH. AND SO I WOULD FOCUS ON THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY WORRY ABOUT, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN 2025. LET'S MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN 2026, AND IF WE HAVE TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT 2025 AND IT'S USEFUL, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF NOT, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN 2026. OKAY. GOOD POINT. DID YOU BRING THIS SOMETHING BACK TO THE JANUARY MEETING TO LOOK AT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE. WE SHOULD, THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, I THINK. OKAY. UNLESS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE IT SOONER JUST VIA EMAIL TO RESPOND BACK WITH ANY EDITS IN THE MEANTIME. AND THEN MAYBE, NO, THE ONLY OTHER THING I, I WOULD SAY IS WHERE DID THE LEAD COME FROM? THAT WAY WE NOW SOURCED. YEP. YEAH. THAT WAY WE NOW IS, YEAH. GOOD CALL WILCO, EDPA GOOD VALUE FOR THE MONEY IS OA. A GOOD VALUE IS THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. AND THEN IF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS GIVEN US SMELTING BATTERIES ALL THE TIME, WE, WE KNOW NOT TO PICK UP THE PHONE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST MESSING WITH US. BUT, AND SOMETIMES THEY COME FROM ALL THREE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT JUST TO HAVE A SINGLE SOURCE, BUT HAVE EACH ONE OF OUR TYPICAL SOURCES AND THEN KIND OF AN INTERNAL TO WHERE IF WE IDENTIFY SOMETHING, OR IT'S BROUGHT TO US BY, YOU KNOW, VICE CHAIR MORALES, IF SHE HEARS SOMETHING AND THAT'S AN INTERNALLY GENERATED LEAD, SO WE'LL, WE'LL IDENTIFY THOSE. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT'LL HIT MORE THAN ONE. THAT WAY WE CAN CLEARLY SEE, HEY, WE'RE DUPLICATING EFFORTS HERE BY HAVING THIS MEMBERSHIP AND THIS MEMBERSHIP, OR RESPONDING THREE TIMES TO THE SAME, SAME LEAD. SO YEAH, MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, I'D LIKE SOME INITIAL PRELIMINARY STUFF WHEN IT COMES AVAILABLE. OKAY. AS, AS WE DEEM AS YOU, AS YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE. YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE OR IS THAT JUST A ACTION ITEM FOR FUTURE? IT'S JUST AN ACTION ITEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS SIX, STA THREE I DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 53 TO APPROVE AN INCENTIVE POLICY CORRESPONDING PROGRAMS AND ASSOCIATED PROCEDURES. THANK YOU. UM, SO THIS ITEM, UM, STAFF HAS BEEN COLLABORATING WITH VICE CHAIR MORALES, UH, AS WAS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD. SO THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE IN YOUR ITEM FOLDER, OUR FLOW CHART THAT REPRESENTS SORT OF THE THREE APPLICATION PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE, WE DID OUR BEST TO HAVE THAT FLOW CHART KIND OF INCORPORATE WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT IN THE ONLINE APPLICATION. 'CAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIGITAL APPLICATION. SO IT WILL HAVE A IF THEN CLICK THROUGH PATH. AND SO CERTAIN THINGS, ONCE THEY SELECT WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY ARE, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE THE RELEVANT QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S A LITTLE HARD TO CAPTURE ON PAPER , BUT WE DID OUR BEST. UM, AND SO, UM, [00:45:01] WE HAD BROUGHT A DRAFT APPLICATION TO Y'ALL. UM, AT THE OCTOBER MEETING. UH, WE DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT, UM, ANYTHING THAT NEEDED CHANGING. SO I EFFECTIVELY INCORPORATED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT, UM, INTO THE DRAFT. THE ONE AREA THAT I DO WANT TO GET CONFIRMATION OF OR DIRECTION ON IS WITH REGARD TO IMPACT FEES, UM, PREVIOUS BOARD DIRECTION WAS THAT IMPACT FEES SHALL NOT BE REIMBURSABLE. HOWEVER, IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE, UM, SUGGESTED PROGRAM INFORMATION STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT GRANTS BE MAXED OUT AT WHATEVER IMPACT FEES WERE PAID. THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE IMPACT FEE WOULD BE REIMBURSABLE, JUST THAT THE PERFORMANCE GRANT WOULD BE MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED WHATEVER THOSE THE TOTAL IMPACT FEES WERE THAT WERE PAID. THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. BUT I DID WANNA GET FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD ON KIND OF BOTH OF THOSE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OR REQUESTS AS WELL AS ANYTHING ELSE. BUT THAT IN PARTICULAR, SO PERSONALLY, I NEVER SAY NEVER ON ANYTHING. EVEN IF IT'S THE CRAZIEST THING, I WANT TO HEAR THE IDEA. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER SAY NEVER ON ANY OF IT, BECAUSE THE RIGHT DEAL MAY COME THROUGH AND THEY DON'T WANT INCENTIVES. THEY JUST WANT 500,000 IMPACT FEES WAIVED AND WE CAN SAY NO, AND THEN THEY GO AWAY. BUT THE SAME COMPANY WOULD'VE PAID THEIR, POSSIBLY PAID THEIR IMPACT FEES AND ASKED FOR A $500,000 IN GRANT OR A THREE 80. I THINK THAT AT LEAST GIVES US A CONVERSATION STARTER TO THEN GO, WE WON'T WAIVE 'EM, BUT WE CAN DO A REIMBURSEMENT, WE CAN DO SOME OTHER AGREEMENT. BUT YEAH, THE, THE FLOW CHART THAT WE PUT TOGETHER ONLY HAS TWO INSTANCES CURRENTLY OF WHERE THE APPLICATION WOULD JUST TERMINATE IMMEDIATELY. MM-HMM . UM, AND ONE IS IF THEY HAVE TWO OR MORE LOCATIONS IN HUDU ALREADY. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER IS THAT ARE THEY APPROVED TO OPERATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? THE ANSWER IS NO. THEN COME BACK LATER. YEAH. UM, SAVE SOME LEGAL BILLS, ALL THE REST OF IT REMAINS OPEN AND, UM, TO WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO FILL OUT THE INFORMATION ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY END. SO TWO OR MORE, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE, TWO OR MORE LOCATIONS OR ARE THEY NOT APPROVED TO OPERATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE EITHER ONE, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE APPLYING IF THEY WEREN'T, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST GO FOR IT ANYWAY. NEVER KNOW. . WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? APPROVED TO OPERATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? BECAUSE LET'S SAY I'M MOVING A COMPANY HERE FROM JAPAN, I MAY BE LOOKING FOR A SITE THINKING IT TAKES A WEEK TO GET YOUR COMPANY LEGAL IN THIS CITY. OR I MEAN, IN A STATE, IF YOU FILED ON A MONDAY, YOU'D HAVE THE, YOU'D BE LEGAL BY FRIDAY. SO IF I FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK ON MONDAY, I AM NOT LEGAL. MM-HMM . GOES BACK TO THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE INTENDING TO CREATE A SITE SPECIFIC LLC THAT WILL BE AUTHORIZED, BUT THE PARENT COMPANY IS NOT. MM-HMM . COULD WE REPHRASE THE QUESTION PERHAPS? ARE YOU CURRENTLY, OR ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING APPROVAL TO OPERATE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? ARE YOU CURRENTLY OR WILL YOU BE? YEAH, TEXAS. WHAT WAS THE CONCERN? LIKE IT'S A CHINESE COMPANY OR NORTH KOREAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OR IT'S, IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. THAT'S MY, SORRY, I NEED TO INTERRUPT. . OUR CONVERSATIONS IS THAT IF PEOPLE AREN'T, WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET ALL THE PAPERWORK IN IN PLACE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU CAN GET AS MUCH INFORMATION EARLY. AND SO IT'S A WASTE OF TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESS AND THEN HAVE THEM NOT EVEN ACTUALLY HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO GET PROPER DOCUMENTATION IN. BUT IF YOU SAY, DO YOU PLAN ON, I'LL ALWAYS SAY YES. I WOULD SAY THIS REAL ESTATE IS WHAT PERCENT OF IT IS WASTED TIME. DON'T ASK ME THAT QUESTION . SO IT HURTS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT AN EFFICIENT DEAL. I MEAN, PEOPLE WILL WORK LIKE FIVE SITES IN AN AREA MM-HMM . AND THEY'LL MAKE EVERYBODY THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY PERSON IN EACH SITE AND THEY'VE WASTED FOUR PEOPLE'S TIME AND THEN THEY COME UP, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE BANK FINANCING AND THEY LOSE THE ONE THAT THEY WANTED. UM, 'CAUSE BROKERS TYPICALLY, UM, PROBABLY WORK ON IT, I DON'T KNOW, A WHOLE LOT MORE DEALS THAN THEY CLOSE ON IN A YEAR. SO BLESS YOU. I I WOULD JUST ADD TO EVERYBODY. IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WASTED TIME AND, BUT I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO DO IT. PUT JUST A NOTICE ON THERE. IF THE ANSWER'S NO, THEY COULD HAVE A TEXT RESPONSE, LIKE AN EXPLANATION, AND THEN THEY CAN FILL OUT THE REST, BUT THEN WE FLAG IT LESS IN THE END. YOU ARE MM-HMM. THE, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU ARE FACING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NQ TWO PROGRAMS THAT BECOME AS 64 DASH LTD, WHATEVER, THAT, THAT [00:50:01] NUMBER, THAT NAME DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL A WEEK BEFORE THAT CONTRACT WAS DONE. RIGHT. UM, BUT, AND THAT'S IF IT WAS DONE WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS DONE, BUT THE ORGANIZATION HAD A REPUTATION IN PERFORMING THESE KIND OF SERVICES IN TEXAS. AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD COULD RELY ON, IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE REAL. IT'S NOT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UH, CRAPSHOOT. YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S REALLY THE CONCERN THAT YOU NEED TO DO IS, IS, IS EVALUATE A PROSPECT ON THEIR RELIABILITY OR THEIR, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU EXPECT THEM TO, TO PERFORM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WHETHER THEY'RE LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS, YET, WHETHER THEY ARE AN ENTITY THAT THAT IS DOING BUSINESS IN TEXAS OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT HOW, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? IF YOU HAVE COMPANIES COME IN FROM ASIA, HOW DO YOU, YOU HAVE NO WAY TO VET THEM. NOW IF IT'S SAMSUNG, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ONE THING, BUT EVEN THEN PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT DOING THE BEST JOB. BUT I, I WOULD MAYBE WORD IT IN A MANNER, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU FOLLOWING WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THE SERIES OF LAWS FROM TEXAS IN TERMS OF COUNTRIES YOU CAN'T BE FROM, BUT WORDED IN A WAY TO WHERE MAYBE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, HEY, THEY CAN PUT SOMETHING DOWN THERE. LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE A TEXT BOX, TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS, . WELL, YOU CAN ARGUE, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE ARGUING IF THEY'RE TERRORIST STATES OR NOT, BUT UM, SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY CAN PUT A TEXT BOX TO WHERE THEY CAN SAY, YES, I'M GONNA COMPLY WITH TEXAS LAW WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOREIGN OWNERSHIP. MM-HMM . AND SOME ANSWER TO WHERE WE CAN GO. OKAY. SOME LITTLE PIECE. 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S EVER GONNA TELL YOU THE TRUTH IF THEY DON'T WANNA KNOW. RIGHT. THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SECTION, SO LIKE, I UNDERSTAND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL CONTINGENT UPON FURTHER REVIEW BY THE EDC BOARD AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION. SO I WONDER IF TO AUDREY'S POINT, WE COULD TAKE THAT PIECE AND PUT IT UNDER THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. SO THEY'RE SIGNING OFF THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TO, AT THE TIME OF ANY AWARD CONSIDERATION OR AT THE TIME OF AWARD, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD THAT THEY HAVE TO BE X, Y, Z APPROVED TO WORK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND NOT FROM YEAH. THESE COUNTRIES, ET CETERA. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO CAPTURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE SPOT. YES. JUST CREATE A DEADLINE BY WHICH THEY HAVE TO DO THAT BASED ON NEGOTIATIONS. IF WE'RE GONNA START DOING DOCUMENTS, WE OUGHT TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BIND MM-HMM . THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YEAH. LIKE, BUT YEAH, LIKE YOU ACKNOWLEDGE BEFORE YOU APPLY, BEFORE THE BOARD WILL, UM, REVIEW YOUR APPLICATION. YOU'LL BE DULY WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEN THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE THEY APPLY, UM, PRIOR TO EXECUTING ANY AGREEMENTS OR, YEAH. WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOME WE HAVE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT. OKAY. I'M ASSUMING NO ACTIONS OR MOTIONS ON THAT. WELL, HERE. ARE YOU MAKING DIFFERENT OTHER CHANGES AS WELL? I'D SAY THAT'S ALWAYS ARGUE THAT WE NEED TO BE MAKING MOTIONS AND EVERYTHING AND THEN WE START NOT DOING THAT. UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED WITH THE CHANGE DISCUSSED ABOUT MOVING THE, THE FORMATION TIME TO THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TIMELINE. UM, AND THEN THIS BE BROUGHT BACK JUST FOR A QUICK APPROVAL. WITH THAT, THE RESOLUTION SAYS APPROVED IN A FORM SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR AS AMENDED AND APPROVED BY LEGAL ANYWAY. SO YOU CAN PICK IT BACK, YOU CAN MAKE THE LANGUAGE AND WE CAN ADJUST IT AND BRING IT BACK. OKAY. THEN. OKAY. EVERYTHING I JUST SAID, BUT THEY HAVE TO THAT LANGUAGE AT THE, AS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THAT IT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UM, WE WON'T START THE LEGAL PROCESS UNTIL THEY BECOME LEGALLY ENTITLED TO DO BUSINESS. YEAH. LEGAL ENTITLED, I LIKE, YOU SHOULD BE ATTORNEY. SO WE DON'T DO THAT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE THAT SORT OF, UM, FILTER TODAY. WE DO, BUT THIS IS FOR THE ACTUAL INCENTIVE APPLICATION ITSELF. SO WHEN SOMEONE GOES ON AND SAYS, OOH, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME INCENTIVES FOR MY PROJECT, AND THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, THIS IS, WHAT THAT'S FOR IS TO, TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE REVIEW. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE AN APPROVED APPLICATION PROCESS. SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THEY REACH OUT VIA EMAIL AND, AND EFFECTIVELY SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT INCENTIVES. AND THEN THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE FIGURE OUT WHAT COMPANY IT IS AND THEN ENGAGE LEGAL TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING. OKAY. UH, THERE'S A MOTION BY, UH, BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER, UH, PORTERFIELD, I THINK. RIGHT? . I THOUGHT [00:55:01] I HEARD YOU. HE HE ANSWERS TO A LOT. SO I HEARD YOU JUST CALL WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL HIM. , I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU . UM, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE, UH, CALL FOR VOTE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM 6.4, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 1 54 TO APPROVE FUNDING OF THE CITY OF HU'S FACADE GRANT INCENTIVE PROGRAM USING THE APPROVED FUNDS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET IN THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT LINE ITEM. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. SO THIS ITEM IS LITERALLY JUST SAYING THE APPROVED FUNDS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT EDC BUDGET FOR FY 2026, YOU ALL ARE SAYING YES, PLEASE USE THOSE FUNDS AS THE SOURCE TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM. AND HOW, HOW MUCH WAS THAT? IT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL REVISES THE ORDINANCE ON THE FACADE GRANT PROGRAM. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY A BOARD MEMBER. PORTERFIELD. ANY DIS I BRING THAT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, OUR COUNCILING THE WAY IT KINDA IS NOW, THERE'S TWO BIG ONES. YOU CAN DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK. YOU GET $5,000, YOU CAN PAINT YOUR HOUSE, GET $2,500. YOU, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS YOUR INVESTMENT IN YOUR FACADE HAS TO BE LIKE 20% OF THE VALUE OF THE DWELLING. AND SO WE DIDN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY PUT 80,000 IN. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS POTENTIALLY, UM, THAT BLUE BUILDING ON THE CORNER HAS LIKE MDF FOR WOOD, FOR THE TRIM. IT'S ALL SWOLLEN UP. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA GO SPEND MONEY, WE'RE PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEND SUBSTANTIAL MONEY. IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND SUBSTANTIAL MONEY, SHOULD WE NOT REQUIRE CERTAIN BUILDING MATERIALS BE USED ON THE OUTSIDE TO WHERE MM-HMM . IT IS GONNA LAST 10, 20 YEARS. AND WHAT I KIND OF ENVISION ULTIMATELY FROM THE COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY, IS THAT THE CITY WILL PRETTY MUCH PAY FOR THE MATERIALS AND THE BUILDING OWNERS WILL PAY FOR THE LABOR. IS WHAT I, IN MY MIND, I HOPE IT TURNS OUT TO THAT WAY WE BASE YOUR DICTATING EVERYTHING ON THE OUTSIDE HAS TO BE X TO GET THE MONEY BACK. AND IF YOU DO ALL, IF YOU DO THAT, WE'LL PAY FOR IT, YOUR PERSON INSTALL IT. AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY FOR IT TO LAST A LONG TIME. BUT I JUST THINK IF WE WAIT TILL THEY GET DONE, UM, IT'D PROBABLY BE EASIER. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY. CALL FOR VOTE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6.5, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HC DASH 2025 DASH 55 TO APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON APRIL 14TH, 2025. THANK YOU. UH, SO AS THE AGENDA ITEM STATES, THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS SHARED IN THE ITEM FOLDER FOR Y'ALL WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED ON APRIL 14TH. WE DID BRING IT BACK TO THE CURRENT BOARD ON AUGUST 11TH. UM, AND THAT INCLUDED AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRIORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF. UH, NO CHANGES WERE PROPOSED AT THAT TIME, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO OFFER ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNS WITH AND REFLECTS WHAT THIS BOARD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UH, AND SO ASKING FOR AN OFFICIAL RATIFICATION OF THAT AND APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD, UM, OF THAT STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S IN THE MADAM CHAIR. HELLO? CAN I BE RECOGNIZED? YES. FOR THE RECORD. JAMES IP, CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. MERRY CHRISTMAS. UM, I'D LIKE TO THROW A LITTLE BIT OF A WRENCH INTO THIS. UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT BOARD. IT'S DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ISN'T STILL THE, THE RIGHT STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT I REALLY THINK WHAT WOULD BE WOULD BENEFIT YOU ALL IS TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON GOING THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN NEXT MONTH BETWEEN [01:00:01] NOW AND THEN THINK ABOUT IT. GO DOWN EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE AND ASK YOURSELF, IS THIS THE PRIORITY OF OUR BOARD? THROW OUT WHAT DOESN'T BELONG, ADD IN. WHAT DOES, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HER STAFF DO IS THEY DEPLOY RESOURCES BASED OFF OF STRATEGIC PLAN. SO IF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN DOES REFLECT WHAT THE PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD ARE, THAT'S PERFECTLY GREAT, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE ALIGNMENT WITH THE WAY THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING RESOURCES. BUT IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE'RE DEPLOYING RESOURCES IN A WAY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE BOARD THAT CAUSES FRICTION, IT CAUSES, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS AND ALL THOSE OTHER SORTS OF THINGS. AND THEN WE START HAVING A BUTTING OF HEADS. SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE GO THROUGH WITH CITY COUNCIL, WHERE EACH YEAR WE ASK THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH THEN DEFINES OUR BUDGET AND HOW WE BUILD BUDGET. AND ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE DO MONETARY WISE AND, UM, ACTIVITY AND PROGRAM AND PROJECT WISE TIES BACK TO THAT PLAN. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I, I DON'T WANT TO JUST GLOSS OVER AND IT JUST GET APPROVED UNLESS IT IS ENDORSED BY EVERYONE WHO IS SITTING ON THIS BOARD AS THIS IS OUR PROGRAM OF WORK AND THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO, WHICH PROBABLY MEANS Y'ALL NEED TO HAVE SPECIFIC TIME SET ASIDE TO TALK ABOUT IT, TO CUT IT ALL OUT, THROW IT ONTO THE FLOOR, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOUR CUTTING ROOM FLOOR STUFF, AND THEN TO NEGOTIATE AND TO PUT THINGS IN, TAKE THINGS OUT, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT. BUT MAYBE Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT AND YOU'RE TO THE POINT WHERE LIKE, NOPE, THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WILL EMBRACE THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, DEPLOY RESOURCES BASED OFF OF THAT. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, I HAD JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT IT. I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME FAIRLY INTENSE DISCUSSION ABOUT THINGS WE DID OR DID NOT WANNA CONTINUE DOING. WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON MM-HMM . IF WE RECALL THAT CONVERSATION. IS THIS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT OR IS THIS, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAD, THAT WAS A PRETTY LENGTHY AND DETAILED DISCUSSION AND I THINK THAT WE HASHED OUT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WE COULD THERE. YEAH. AND I WASN'T SURE IF, I MEAN, I'M, I READ THE WORDS AND A LOT OF IT SOUNDS VERY, UM, MORE GENERAL GENERALIZED TO ME. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH HOW WE HAD KIND OF LEFT THINGS PREVIOUSLY. I THINK YOU COULD BRING UP A GREAT POINT. ANOTHER WAY THAT STAFF INTERPRETS PRIORITIES IS WHAT THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL CHOOSE TO FUND, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY ARE WILLING TO INVEST SHOWS US WHERE WE SHOULD PUT OUR TIME AND RESOURCES. SO, UM, I HAVE NOT REVIEWED IT SINCE THE BUDGET WAS CUT. WHAT I RECALL IS, UM, THE THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, MOST OF THEM ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO A MONETARY INVESTMENT. AND SO MM-HMM . UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THIS TIME FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION IF THE BOARD AGREES TO GO THROUGH AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE BUDGET. 'CAUSE, UM, AS SHARED, THIS WAS APPROVED IN APRIL, BUDGET WAS APPROVED OBVIOUSLY IN SEPTEMBER. MM-HMM . SO THERE WAS A, A TIME CHANGE TIME DIFFERENCE THERE AS WELL, OR, OR TIME THAT HAD LAPSED. UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO, TO REVIEW FOR ALIGNMENT FOR THAT. I ALSO ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO DO THE SAME. IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO, TO TAKE THAT TIME, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED ALIGNS WITH THE STRAP PLAN THAT WOULD MM-HMM . BEST REPRESENT THOSE PRIORITIES. YEAH. I, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW TO QUANTIFY IT BECAUSE I SEE, FOR INSTANCE, IT SAYS GOAL INCREASE PARTICIPATION AT QUARTERLY BIZ THRIVE EVENTS BY 25%. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, LIKE AS A LINE ITEM, I GUESS. WELL, I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. OKAY. SO BIZ THRIVE EVENTS WERE CUT. SO FOR FY 26, THAT'S NO LONGER IN PLACE IN THE SPRING IT WAS BECAUSE RIGHT. WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A A FISCAL YEAR. SO, AND A STRATEGIC PLAN DOESN'T BRING THOSE SPECIFICS. YOU'RE TALKING MORE OF A TACTICAL THAN INTO THE DETAIL. OKAY. THAT'S THE PART I STRUGGLE WITH IS WITH STRATEGIC PLANS. JAMES HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I'M NOT ACCUSTOMED TO THESE IN, IN MY LINE OF WORK. IT'S LIKE, YOU GOT EIGHT THINGS TO DO, GO GET IT DONE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS WHOLE PLAN ON HOW, FOR ME TO DO MY JOB, WHAT I LIKE IS SOME SORT OF WAY TO BE LIKE, KNOW WE DID SOMETHING WELL. AND SO I WOULD LIKE US, I'M ALMOST THINKING, AND BOY, I HATE SPECIAL MEETINGS , BUT ALMOST LIKE A TIME WE CAN SIT DOWN BECAUSE LIKE, HERE'S ONE I SEE GOAL INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUSTAINABILITY REQUIREMENTS IN EV IN EVERY INCENTIVE AWARDED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND AGAIN, WE'RE DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO TO ME, HOW DO YOU EVEN MEASURE THAT? AND WHAT IS A SUSTAINABILITY [01:05:01] REQUIREMENT? AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK KILLS DEALS IS STAFF THINKING WE WANT ONE THING. AND SO THEY'RE PUSHING SOLAR PANELS AND WINDMILLS AND THE BUSINESS IS LIKE, WELL, HOLD ON. YOU KNOW, IIII PUT IN SPECIAL LIGHTING THAT'S GONNA REDUCE ENERGY COSTS AND ALL THAT. AND STAFF'S LIKE, NO, WE WANT ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND WE HAVEN'T. WE GAVE THEM A BROAD UMBRELLA AND THEY FELL UNDER IT. AND THE ONE ABOVE IT WAS ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY INCLUDES SUSTAINABLE FEATURES AND PRACTICES AND ENCOURAGED ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS LAND EFFICIENCY, CLIMATE RESILIENCE, AND HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. THE POLITICALLY CORRECT WORD I HAVE FOR THAT IS IT, IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S LIKE COLLEGE WORDING. IT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORDS THAT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NO WAY TO DEFINE WHAT, WHAT THE HELL THAT EVEN MEANS. IT WOULD BE HARDER DEFINE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON HERE ON THIS BOARD THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THAT. SO WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY UM, OUR CITY MANAGER, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WHAT YOU PERCEIVE WAS QUITE DIFFERENT IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE ENTIRE BOARD, UH, PERCEIVED BACK THEN. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LET'S SAY IT'S THE SAME BOARD THAT COMMENT, WHAT IS A, THIS IS GONNA BE POSTED. SO WHAT IS A MARKET WHEN THEY READ THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST IZED OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR COTTONWOOD BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COMPANIES WHO ARE LIKE INTO LIKE, YES, THERE'S GONNA BE ALL THESE THINGS AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE COMPANIES THAT ARE GONNA SKIP AND GO, MAN, WE'RE NOT PLAYING THAT GAME. AND SO I THINK IF WE DO THIS, HOPEFULLY WE DO TAKE THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROACH. WE LOOK AT IT, AND I'M NOT SAYING GET IT DOWN TO LIKE, YOU HAVE TO DO THREE THINGS. IT'S GOTTA BE EXACT, BUT SOMEHOW, INSTEAD OF MAKING AN UMBRELLA LIKE THIS, DIAL IT DOWN TO WHERE WE GOT SOMETHING TO WHERE WE CAN GRADE. I ASSUME THIS IS, IF WE DO IT LIKE THE CITY DOES, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GRADE WE GRADE THE CITY MANAGER ON AND WE DO THE SAME THING. MM-HMM . THE ONE IN THE CITY SEEMS VERY TO WHERE JAMES COULD ALMOST SAY ANYTHING AND IT'S LIKE, I DID IT. AND SOME OF US ARE LIKE, NO, YOU DIDN'T. AND OTHERS ARE LIKE, OH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A HAPPY MIDDLE BETWEEN A SMALL ENOUGH UMBRELLA TO WHERE SOMEONE CAN OPERATE, BUT NOT SO LARGE TO WHERE EVERYBODY'S SUCCESSFUL EVERY DAY. BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS RIGHT, I WOULD IMAGINE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL SUCCEED IN SEVERAL AREAS. THEY WILL MISS IN OTHERS AND THEY'LL BE WORKING ON OTHERS. BUT IF WE DO IT WRONG, EVERYTHING THEY DO IS A SUCCESS. AND WE WIND UP, WE TALK A LOT. AM I KIND OF SAYING THAT RIGHT? FOR A PERSON WHO'S NEVER BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS? LIKE OTHER THAN THE CITY? SORRY. NO, I, I THINK SO, UH, I TO THE, THE, THE, THE, THE BIGGEST VALUE THAT, THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN PLAYS IS IT IS A, IT IS A GUIDANCE FROM THIS BOARD TO THE STAFF ON WHAT YOU WANT THE STAFF TO VALUE WHEN MAKING DECISIONS. NOW THAT COULD BE VERY BROAD, COULD BE VERY LOOSE AND WARM AND FUZZY, OR IT COULD BE VERY DIRECT, NOT TACTICAL, BUT VERY DIRECT. AND ALL OF THOSE ARE OKAY, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT IF THIS BOARD HASN'T ENDORSED THIS PLAN AND BOUGHT INTO IT, THEN IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PLAN. AND WE ARE AS STAFF TRAINED , FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE TO WORK OFF OF, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CYCLES OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO THAT'S THE LAST DIRECTION THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS IS FROM APRIL IS TO GO DO THESE THINGS. SO IF THAT HAS CHANGED AND PIVOTED, IF IT IS NOT REFLECTIVE, THEN THIS BOARD AND MY ESTIMATION NEEDS TO CONVEY AND ARTICULATE WHAT STRATEGIC PLANNING LOOKS LIKE FOR YOU. HOW YOU WANT STAFF TO PRIORITIZE THEIR TIME AND WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO DEPLOY RESOURCES. YEAH, I MEAN, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT, UM, PLAN AS PRESENTED BY, UM, YOU AND BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. SO I THINK PROBABLY WE JUST NEED TO SEPARATELY GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED IN A SEPARATE MEETING OF TYPES AND, UM, THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND JUST COMPARE CONTRAST WITH WHAT WE'VE, WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THIS WAS LAST, UM, BROUGHT UP IN APRIL. BECAUSE I MEAN, I READ THROUGH IT, BUT I THOUGHT I RAN INTO SOME THINGS. I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T DOING THAT ANYMORE. OR SO, UM, THAT WAS REALLY MY QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA ORGANIZE THESE ADJUSTMENTS AND, AND FUNNEL THAT IF, IF Y'ALL FEEL LIKE YOU NEED LIKE A THIRD PARTY FACILITATOR TO HELP ASSIST Y'ALL, LET, JUST LET STAFF KNOW IN SOME SORT OF DIRECTION THAT Y'ALL GIVE. BUT MY, WHAT I WOULD THINK THAT YOU [01:10:01] WOULD DO IS EFFECTIVELY EITHER SCRAP THE WHOLE THING AND START FROM SCRATCH, WHICH IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. OR I WOULD GO ONE SENTENCE AT A TIME. DO WE STILL BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRUE? MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, DOES THIS STILL REFLECT OUR PRIORITIES? AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THIS REFLECT OUR PRIORITIES? AND MAYBE THAT MEANS REMOVING IT, MAYBE IT MEANS CHANGING THE WORDING. UH, ONE EXAMPLE THAT I'LL THROW UP AS A, AS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IS SHOULD THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY WAY BE INVOLVED IN, UM, EVENTS? LIKE SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EVEN DOES? SHOULD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RUNNING THE HIPAA CLAW CRAWL? BECAUSE THAT TAKES RESOURCES AND IT TAKES TIME, ENERGY, AND EFFORT AWAY FROM RESPONDING TO OPPORTUNITY AUSTIN AND OTHER THINGS, WHICH IN YOUR GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, YOU MAY BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVENTS ARE NICE, BUT WE WANNA FOCUS ON THIS PART OVER HERE. BUT Y'ALL HAVE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT DIRECTION. SO THEREFORE STAFF IS STILL CHUGGING AWAY DOING ALL THE THINGS. NOW, I WILL SAY THE REASON I'M USING THAT AS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB IS BECAUSE, UM, I'M GONNA BE ANNOUNCING AT THE END OF JANUARY THAT I'M BASICALLY CALLING A, UM, A POWWOW OF ALL THE NONPROFITS THAT I CAN MUSTER. AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY PUTS ON, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PUTS ON. AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK NONPROFIT PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY IF THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN TAKING OVER OR OTHERWISE TRANSITIONING THE EVENT TO THEM. WE DID THIS ALREADY A LITTLE BIT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DID IN PARKS BY TRANSITIONING THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING TO THE DOWNTOWN HU BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. SO THEY DID, UM, COCO AND CAROL'S AND THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AND THE DHBA HELPED FACILITATE THAT. NOW WE STILL PROVIDED SUPPORT, BUT IT WASN'T LIKE IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. AND I WOULD SUSPECT MAYBE NEXT YEAR, LIKE WE'VE DIALED IT BACK EVEN MORE. NOW I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT THE ULTIMATE END GOAL IS TO COMPLETELY CUT EVENT PLANNING, BUDGETING OUT OF THE CITY. ULTIMATELY THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL DECISION. BUT LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY WE SPEND $200,000 A YEAR DOING EVENTS AND MAYBE THREE FOURTHS OF THOSE GET PICKED UP BY NONPROFITS. SO NOW COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE DO WE TAKE THE $150,000 THAT WE FREED UP AND CUT THE BUDGET OR DO WE TAKE THE $150,000 AND USE IT TO AS SEED MONEY TO START NEW THINGS THAT WE PROP UP AND DO AND THEN PASS OFF. I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL DETERMINE AND DECIDE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES HAVE RIPPLE IMPLICATIONS. BECAUSE IF Y'ALL COME BACK AND SAY, ABSOLUTELY NOT, WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE HIPAA CLAUSE CRAWL, THEN THAT WILL NOT MAKE IT ONTO MY LIST THE END OF JANUARY AS A POTENTIAL EVENT FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE OVER. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S, IT'S EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT THAT Y'ALL FIGURE OUT HOW TO ARTICULATE WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. SO WE THEN IN TURN KNOW HOW TO, UM, HOW TO SUPPORT THOSE THE BEST WAY THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN. THANK YOU. YEAH, I APPRECIATE BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I'M MORE OF THE DIRECT, TO ME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THOSE OTHER EVENTS ARE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK SOMETIMES THE EDC CAN HELP FUND A LITTLE BIT. BUT IF, IF OUR STAFF IS SO BUSY PUTTING ON EVENTS THAT THEN THEY CAN'T DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND GO, OKAY, THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. THAT MAYBE, MAYBE THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SAY, OKAY, WE STILL WANNA DO THAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PARK RESPONSIBILITY. AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER WILL COME UP AND SAY, WELL, BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT'S A PARKS RESPONSIBILITY, I NEED TWO MORE BODIES. AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL MAY SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT AT ALL. WE WANT A NONPROFIT TO DO IT 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HIRE. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS KIND OF BEEN GOING TO, IS MAKING SURE ALL THE ROLES ARE IN THE RIGHT AREA. 'CAUSE GEORGE HAD PUT ON AN EVENT, IF WE PAID HIM TO DO IT, HE WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT IT ON. BUT WE'D SAY WE JUST WANT GEORGE AND HIS FIRM TO WORRY ABOUT LEGAL AND NOT TO WORRY ABOUT OUTSIDE. AND SO I THINK MAYBE IF THERE'S A WAY, IF JANUARY'S USUALLY PRETTY SLOW, MAYBE MID-JANUARY WE JUST HAVE A MAYBE A MEETING JUST ON THIS. YES. AND THEN AFTER THAT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A, OUR NEXT MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE DID OR WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD DO. AND THAT WAY THAT'S THE OTHER THING. I THINK BEFORE THE EDCI FELT LIKE WAS DOING ONE VISION MISSION AND ALL THAT, THE COUNCIL'S OVER ANOTHER ONE AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE DOING THIS. AND TO ME IT OUGHT TO BE LIKE THIS NEED DO A LINE IN LOCKSTEP. SHE'S JUST GONNA SAY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, I THINK THAT THE SUGGESTION MADE ABOUT GETTING A FACILITATOR WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN GET BOGGED OUT IN [01:15:01] THE DETAILS AND HAVING A FACILITATOR WOULD HELP MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TRACK AND ACHIEVE ALL THAT WE WANNA ACHIEVE. YEAH. MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THE FACILITATOR IS THEY'RE NOT GONNA HELP YOU GET IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNCIL. I THINK THE FACILITATOR IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA SEND YOU OFF ON THIS SIDE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING. IF YOU LISA, HOW WORKS IN THE CITY, EVERYTHING YOU SAY THEY WRITE ON A BOARD AND THEY KIND OF MOVE YOU AND THEN THEY, OKAY, SO YOU GUYS ARE THINKING THIS. I HONESTLY THINK THEY'RE ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE, UM, I GOTTA REACH YOU ONE OTHER ONE I SAW, WHERE WAS IT AND I WAS JUST LIKE, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACTED FACILITATOR? I THOUGHT IT WAS A PERSON THAT WAS WITHIN THE, UH, CITY STAFF. UM, JAMES, WOULD IT BE UH, A THIRD PARTY OR WOULD IT BE DAVID OR SOMEBODY? MATT? I'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING INTERNALLY, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. UH, USUALLY LIKE A, A PAID PROFESSIONAL FACILITATOR IS GONNA NEED MORE THAN A 30 DAY NOTICE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THEIR CALENDAR, BUT, BUT I JUST MEANT LIKE ANOTHER PERSON IN THE ROOM BESIDES Y'ALL AND CHENEY. YEAH, YEAH. TO KIND OF HELP, YOU KNOW, BALANCE IT. OKAY. JAMES AND I TALK A LOT ABOUT STUFF BECAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE OBJECTIVES SAYS CREATE AND MAINTAIN A DYNAMIC DATABASE. IN MY WORLD, YOUR JOB'S TO CREATE A DATABASE, BUT YOU BRING FACILITATORS IN AND THEN A COLLEGE HIT. AND TO ME, I I, I DON'T KNOW THE BETTER TERM, BUT WE START ADDING IN ALL THESE WORDS AND I SIT BACK AND GO, WHAT IS A DYNAMIC DATABASE COMPARED TO A DATABASE? A PIVOT TABLE. HUH? I'M JUST KIDDING. . . AND SO, WELL, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A FACILITATOR, YOU GET A CONSULTANT, FORGET IT. YEAH. BUT I THINK IF HE BRINGS LIKE ONE OF HIS PEOPLE, THE INTERNAL PERSON IS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE, WHAT WE WANNA ACCOMPLISH OVERALL. YEAH. DAVID. AND THAT'S MUCH BETTER. DAVID BE GOOD FOR THAT, HUH? POTENTIALLY. YEAH. AND NOT ONLY THAT, AGAIN, WE GET CAUGHT UP IN THE DETAILS AND 'CAUSE EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION, BUT IF WE GET SOMEONE WHO IS INTERNAL, IT'S A FACILITATOR THAT CAN PUSH US ON AND WRAP THINGS UP. OKAY. IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT? AND SOMETIMES GETTING SOMEONE DETACHED OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD MAKES IT HAPPEN. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. ONE, ONE QUICK POINT, AMIT. UH, THE OTHER ISSUE I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES OR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY CONTINUE TO FUND CERTAIN PROJECTS WHICH YOU THINK ARE MARKETABLE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO BE SEEN AND HEARD ABOUT, BUT NOT OPERATE THEM. RIGHT. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT INVESTING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LABOR INTO NON-ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, BUT YOU ARE STILL PARTICIPATING IN ORGANIZATIONAL PROJECTS WHERE YOU HAVE A NON-PROFIT OR SOMEBODY ELSE OF WHAT YOU'RE LETTING THEM DO THE WORK, BUT YOU'RE HELPING FUND IT. LIKE, WE MAY GIVE FIVE, LIKE A SPONSORSHIP, WE MAY GIVE $5,000 TO HAVE OUR NAME ON THE SANTA CLAUS CRAWL AND IT GOES OUT EVERYWHERE. BUT YEAH, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY TIME OTHER THAN LOTS OF EYEBALLS OR SEEING SO, SO TACTICAL DETAILS, WHICH ARE NOT GONNA HELP YOU UNTIL YOU'RE HAVING YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN CONVERSATION NEXT MONTH. SO DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, STAFF WORKS TO SCHEDULE A MEETING MID-JANUARY WITH THE PERSON FROM CITY HALL TO HELP FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION AND REWRITE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT THE BOARD HAVE GONE THROUGH AND HAVE PREPARATION FOR IT. I SECOND THAT. OKAY. MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GONZALEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK? SO THERE WAS TALK OF ALIGNING THAT WITH THE NEXT QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING WITH COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE JANUARY ONE OF THE JANUARY MEETINGS FOR COUNCIL. SO JUST IF WE'RE LOOKING AT MID-JANUARY, THEN THE NEXT SCHEDULED QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING WOULDN'T BE UNTIL APRIL. SO WE COULD TRY TO DO EARLY JANUARY, WHICH REALLY GIVES US ONLY LIKE TWO WEEKS. , WHAT ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT? JUST IF THERE'S ALREADY STANDING QUARTERLY JOINT MEETINGS BETWEEN EDC AND COUNCIL. MM-HMM . AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO ALIGN WHEN THIS STRATEGIC PLAN WAS BEING FINALIZED WITH, WHEN THAT QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING OCCURS TO GAIN ADDITIONAL ALIGNMENT. SO THAT IS SCHEDULED TO OCCUR IN JANUARY. SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THIS IN MID-JANUARY, THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULDN'T BE UNTIL APRIL. I I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM. WE'LL JUST FIX THE WORKSHOP AND HAVE A JOINT MEETING IN FEBRUARY. THAT'S FINE. WELL, COUNCIL'S GONNA BE DOING YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN FEBRUARY. SO IF THIS BOARD DOES THEIRS THAT THEN IN TURN CAN JUST GET SHARED WITH COUNCIL AND DRAFT FORM OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THEN COUNCIL GOES INTO THEIR STRATEGIC [01:20:01] PLAN AND THEN ONCE BOTH PARTIES ARE DONE, THEN EFFECTIVELY, I GUESS THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION FOR YOUR JOINT MEETING WOULD BE LET'S, LET'S SHARE EACH OTHER'S STRATEGIC PLAN, I GUESS. YEAH, SO THAT SEEMS LINE LINES OF WILL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY CALL OF VOTE BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SUCCESS MATRIX. MADAM VICE CHAIR, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. AGAIN, JAMES, OUR CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS IS, UH, MY REQUEST AND THIS IS ALSO IN AN EFFORT. Y'ALL, I THINK Y'ALL STARTING TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF A THEME FOR TONIGHT. . UH, THIS IS ABOUT GAINING CLARITY ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS FROM BOARD TO STAFF ARE. UM, NOW WHAT'S IN THE PACKET FOR SUCCESS MATRIX? THESE ARE EXAMPLES. THIS IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF LIKE THE FORMAT, THE, THE FLAVOR OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SUGGESTING. UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE BOARD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, CHANEY AND STAFF SHOULD BE DOING THIS, OR CHANEY AND STAFF SHOULD BE DOING THAT. WELL, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE BASICALLY IS RESPONDING TO SEVEN VOICES. AND JUST LIKE ME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SEVEN PEOPLE, ULTIMATELY I NEED THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A STANCE AND TO TELL ME AS A BODY WHAT THEY WANT ME DOING. IF I TRY TO RUN AND APPEASE EVERY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER SEPARATELY, IT BECOMES VERY PROBLEMATIC AND SOMETIMES IT BECOMES WORKING AGAINST MYSELF. BECAUSE WHAT ONE MEMBER MAY WANT, ANOTHER MEMBER MAY NOT. SO SUCCESS MATRIXES ARE EFFECTIVELY REPLACING OUR JOB EVALUATION PROTOCOLS. AND WHAT THEY ARE IS, UM, YOU IDENTIFY A PARTICULAR ITEM. SO LET'S SAY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREPARATION, POSTING AND, UM, DELIVERY OF THE PACKET. YOU KNOW, JUST FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE AN ITEM THAT WOULD BE IN A JOB DESCRIPTION. WHAT I AM ASKING THE BOARD TO DO IS TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS ARE THAT THE BOARD IS ASKING OF CHENEY. THIS HAS NO, AND, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NOT HER STAFF, NOT ANYONE ELSE, JUST FOR HER. NOW, ULTIMATELY, YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DO THIS FOR YOUR FINANCE SUPPORT STAFF TOO, BUT WE'RE JUST STARTING WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THIS TIME. IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE BULLET POINTS ARE THAT ARE UNIQUELY THE BOARD, BECAUSE THE REST OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS ME. LIKE THE, THE CITY TAKES CARE OF THE REST OF IT. SO I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO A DEEP DIVE ON JOB DESCRIPTIONS OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF STUFF. I'M ASKING YOU TO IDENTIFY THE 5, 10, 15 THINGS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT Y'ALL REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT, THAT SHE SHOULD BE DOING. AND I'VE HEARD SOME OF THEM TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, UH, TRACKING THE OPPORTUNITY, AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S A THING, RIGHT? THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, OKAY, IF YOU DO THAT AND YOU DO IT WELL, AND YOU MEET MY EXPECTATIONS, HERE'S WHAT DOING IT WELL LOOKS LIKE IE SUCCESS. HERE'S WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU'RE DOING THAT THE WAY THAT I EXPECT YOU TO BE DOING IT, AND I BEING THE BOARD, RIGHT? NOT ONE BOARD MEMBER OR ANOTHER, JUST I BEING THE BOARD, THAT WILL THEN IN TURN ALLOW HER TO KNOW, OKAY, IF THE EXPECTATION IS ON THE PACKET THAT IT BE POSTED, NOT 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE, BUT 96 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND THERE'S CONSTERNATION AMONGST MY BOARD BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT BEING DONE AT 96 AS BEING AT 72 OR WHATEVER IT IS. I'M JUST GONNA STICK WITH MY SAME EXAMPLE SO I CAN DRIVE IT HOME. THEN Y'ALL ARTICULATE THAT AND NOW SHE KNOWS I NEED TO BE DELIVERING THE PACKET AT 96 HOURS INSTEAD OF 72 HOURS OR FOUR BUSINESS DAYS INSTEAD OF THREE BUSINESS DAYS. HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO CUT THE, THE MATH. SO I'M ASKING Y'ALL ALSO, WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING, IT WOULD BE A NATURAL OUTCROPPING AND NATURAL OUTCOME FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THEN TO TURN IT INTO SOME TACTICAL DELIVERABLES OF THINGS THAT YOU THINK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS A BOARD MEMBER. AND THEN DEFINING IF SHE'S DOING THAT THE WAY THAT Y'ALL, THAT MEETS YOUR EXPECTATIONS, WHAT DOES THAT SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? THEN I WILL TAKE THAT AND I WILL ROLL IT INTO HER EVALUATION AND INTO HER JOB DESCRIPTION. SO EFFECTIVELY I'M ASKING YOU TO BE A PARTIAL CONTRIBUTOR, NOT A FULL CONTROLLER, A PARTIAL CONTRIBUTOR OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WILL DEFINE WHETHER OR NOT SHE'S BEING SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. TO ME, THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY AS THE BOARDS CHANGE AND AS PERSONALITIES [01:25:01] CHANGE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO WHERE IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE STAFF. SO, UH, I DO EXPECT THAT Y'ALL WILL, AFTER YOU GET DONE WITH THIS ONE, THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY WANT TO ROLL INTO EXPECTATIONS FOR YOUR FINANCE SUPPORT STAFF. THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE. IT'S JUST I'M STARTING WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BECAUSE THAT'S, TO ME IS LIKE THE CRITICAL, YOU KNOW, POINT OF THE SPEAR. UM, HAPPY TO ASK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT PHILOSOPHIC, YOU KNOW, PHILOSO PHILOSOPHIES AROUND THIS OR KIND OF HOW IT LOOKS. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS TONIGHT. I'M PUTTING IT ON YOUR RADAR. SO AS YOU'RE MOVING INTO SETTING THE VISION FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BOARD SETTING, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR STAFF THAT YOU THEN ARTICULATE WHAT DOING THAT, THOSE THINGS WELL LOOKS LIKE. SO THEREFORE IT'S VERY, I DON'T WANNA SAY EASY 'CAUSE IT MAY NOT BE EASY, BUT IT IS AT LEAST, IT'S AT LEAST CLEAR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE SO WE CAN, WE CAN STRIVE TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS. OKAY. UH, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD, IT'S GONNA REALLY ALIGN WITH THE, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN. SO GETTING THAT DONE FIRST IS COMPLETELY VITAL AND, UM, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A NATURAL DERIVATIVE OF THAT AFTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE DIRECTING ALL OF THE ACTIONS IN THAT PLAN. SO, UM, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY DISCUSS IN TANDEM WHEN WE GO OVER THE STRATEGIC PLAN. MM-HMM . TO ME, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP, CERTAINLY, AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN SHOULD DRIVE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM, THAT I AM WAITING IN ON IS I'M DIRECTING HER TO START ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH Y'ALL JUST LIKE I DO WITH CITY COUNCIL. NOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN EVERY SINGLE WEEK OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE TIME WHERE SHE IS COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS ON A REGULAR BASIS BETWEEN MEETINGS TO HELP FOR ALIGNMENT, TO HELP WITH BRIEFING ON ITEMS TO HELP, YOU KNOW, GET, GET, UH, PULSE CHECKS AND THOSE SORT OF STUFF. AND THE LAST THING IS, IS THAT WITHOUT THIS STRUCTURE, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS YOU GUYS ARE PING OR PING PONGING HER, YOU KNOW, SHE'S TRYING TO RESPOND TO, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE OF Y'ALL INDIVIDUALLY, AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN SAYS OR WHAT MAYBE OTHER EVEN MEMBERS ARE ASKING FOR. SO THAT'S NOT FAIR TO HER. AND THEN SHE ENDS UP LETTING YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE PERSON DOWN TO PLEASE ANOTHER OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT A, A, A, AN OUTCOME THAT IS DESIRABLE FOR ANY PERSON WHO'S IN A STAFF POSITION LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS A WAY TO ALSO HOLD YOU ALL ACCOUNTABLE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE AND SHE'S DOING IT, THEN I SHOULDN'T BE HEARING FROM YOU THAT YOU'RE UNHAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE'S DOING. YOU KNOW, LIKEWISE, IT GOES BOTH WAYS. IF, IF YOUR EXPECTATIONS CHANGE AS A BOARD, THEN YOU CHANGE WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE IN THE MATRIX. SO IT, IT IS AN ACCOUNTABILITY ASPECT, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTABILITIES THAT GOES BOTH WAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I THINK STRATEGIC PLAN DRIVES SOME OF IT. MM-HMM . BUT LIKE, SOME OF IT TOO WOULD BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL SIDE, WHEN WE GET, UM, WHEN WE GET AN AGENDA ITEM, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE ASKED OR WE'RE TOLD THIS MEETS THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIC ITEMS OF THE PLAN OR THE PILLARS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND THEN IT GIVES LIKE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND PART OF THIS, UM, FOR ME IS INTERESTING IN THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED TO JAMES ABOUT IS THE PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVED THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS THAT CONTRACTUALLY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO, WE MAYBE SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE DONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING, WELL, WHO APPROVED THIS? WELL, THE BOARD DID WELL, DID STAFF SAY IT WAS OKAY? SO LIKE ONE OF MY EXPECTATIONS IS, IS THAT TO ME, FINANCE AND THE ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF UNDERSTANDS THE AGREEMENTS BETTER THAN WE EVER WANT TO BECAUSE WE MEET ONCE A MONTH. THEY LIVE IN IT EVERY DAY. SO WHEN THEY BRING SOMETHING TO US, TO ME, MY EXPECTATION IS THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AGREEMENT TOP TO BOTTOM AND THEY GO, THIS WAS A REQUEST. WE RECOMMEND DENIAL BECAUSE OF X. BECAUSE IF THEY SAY YES, AND WE VOTE YES, AND THEN LEGAL COMES AROUND AND SAYS, YOU GUYS, THAT THE AGREEMENT DIDN'T SAY TO DO THAT ON THE CITY SIDE. WE ACTUALLY HAD A DEAL THURSDAY WHERE THERE WAS A MIX UP ON EXHIBIT, AND I, I WOULD SAY I KIND OF GAVE AN EXPECTATION RIGHT THERE. I WAS LIKE, DON'T PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN MY MIND, UNLESS WE ARE READY TO ADOPT IT, VOTE YES OR NO ON IT. INSTEAD, WE WERE LIKE NEGOTIATING AN EXHIBIT IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING AND IT WAS JUST DRIVING ME CRAZY BECAUSE I'M LIKE, LET'S GET THIS, LET'S GET IT GOING. SO THAT'S LIKE A THING FOR ME IS THAT STAFF'S ALWAYS, [01:30:01] YOU KNOW, NOT THAT CHRISTINA HAS TO KNOW OR, AND, UM, WE'RE CONFLATING THEM, BUT NOT THAT STAFF HAS TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE ITEM, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE LIKE, LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, YES KNOW, AND THE WAY THEY KNOW WHEN THE AGREEMENTS ARE GONNA EXPIRE, OR, HEY, LET ME GET, LET ME GET THAT TO YOU IF WE'RE GONNA TALK, HERE'S NO ONE IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AN AGREEMENT OR A DEAL LIKE NQ TWO, TO ME, STAFF OUGHT TO HAVE THE AGREEMENT, AT LEAST HAVE READ IT WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE DAYS, UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING WAS IN THERE, HAVE IT WITH THEM PREPARED FOR ANY QUESTION THAT MAY COME UP. BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE GOTTA REMEMBER, WELL, THAT AGREEMENT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, AND SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX. ANOTHER, UM, EXPECTATION MINUS WHEN WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'VE SEEN THIS IN THE PAST. WE'LL TALK ABOUT AMENDING AN AGREEMENT, BUT WE'VE NEVER BEEN GIVEN THE AGREEMENT AND WE CAN'T FIND THE AGREEMENT SOMETIMES. AND SO THEN WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON AMENDING AN AGREEMENT. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE AMENDING. WE'RE JUST THERE TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT. WELL, THAT'S BIT US IN A BUT BEFORE, BECAUSE THEN WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT ONLY TO FIND OUT LATER. WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT BECAUSE IF THE AGREEMENT KIND OF CONFLICTED, AND SO LEGAL IN MY MIND, THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA TELL YOU IF IT'S LEGAL OR NOT. NOT IF IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION. , IT JUST IS ILLEGAL. AND THEN STAFF'S JOB IS IN MY MIND, IS TO SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. AND I ALWAYS PUSH BACK WHENEVER LEGAL STARTS TALKING DEAL POINTS, I'M ALWAYS LIKE, HEY, IF IT'S LEGAL, WE DO WANT SOME EXPERIENCE BASED ON OTHER, YOU KNOW, DEALS. AND THEN TO ME, I WANT STAFF AND FINANCE TO ALL BE LIKE, HEY, IF YOU GUYS ARE REALLY TRYING, YOU GOT THIS GOAL OUT HERE AND NOT TO BE RAISING TAXES AND FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS DEAL HERE MAY NOT BE THE ONE YOU WANNA DO BECAUSE WE'VE RAN A PERFORMANCE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. UM, SO I WOULD SAY THE PACKETS WHERE WE'VE GOT SOMETHING, WE CAN, WE CAN KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, EVEN IF IT'S ON FINANCE, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE, THE FINANCES THIS MONTH. THAT WAY IF WE LOOK AT IT, WE GO, CHRISTINA, LIKE, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS? OH YEAH, NO, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT. OKAY, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO JAMES AND SAY, HEY, YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMEND APPROVING THESE THINGS, BUT ONCE WE GOT DONE, STAFF DOESN'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT ANYMORE. TO ME, THAT'S HOW YOU MM-HMM . I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU AND YOU'RE ABLE TO WATCH THE MEETINGS AND GO, HEY, WE GOTTA HAVE A TALK BECAUSE, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST SOME THINGS I SEE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF STRATEGIC PLAN THAT, UM, IT'S LIKE A SAFETY NET IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY THAT SOMEBODY MAY OR THE BOARD MAY HAVE MISSED, BUT FINANCE CATCHES IT, THEN THEY CAN COME BACK TO US. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE, UM, ALWAYS TRY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. EXACTLY, YEAH. I'S SAY HE KNOWS THE WORD. WE'RE THE, NOT THE SME, RIGHT. WE'RE JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, AND I EXPECT EVERYBODY AS A MAYOR OR AS A BOARD MEMBER, I EXPECT EVERYBODY THAT COMES UP TO BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. AND IF THEY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, AND I, AND, AND OVER THE YEARS WE FOUND PEOPLE THAT JUST KIND OF SNOWED AN ANSWER THROUGH, AND THEN I, I GET REALLY, UM, I GET REALLY FRUSTRATED BY THAT. I'D RATHER HEAR, I DON'T KNOW, LET ME GET, LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T KNOW IT ALL. UM, BUT AT LEAST BE PREPARED FOR THE BASIC STUFF. LIKE IF, IF JAMES IS GONNA PRESENT TO US ON A WASTEWATER LINE AND IT'S A CIP THING AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED BY, IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE? LIKE, YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED. YOU SHOULD KNOW. NOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS TO THAT, BUT Y'ALL OUGHT KNOW THE START DATE, THE END DATE WHERE WHAT WE SPENT TO DATE, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YEAH. AND I'M PROBABLY ROUGHER, IT'S SAFE TO SAY I'M PROBABLY MORE, UM, YOU'RE MORE COMBATIVE. YES. WELL, I WASN'T GONNA SAY THAT, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY I'M MORE, UH, I WOULD SAY I'M MORE DIRECT. I HAVE A HIGHER EXPECTATION OF EMPLOYEES SURE, SURE. OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR. AND I THINK WE'VE COME A, A REALLY LONG WAY MM-HMM . FROM WHERE WE WERE MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. TOTALLY AGREE TO THAT. UM, I WOULD SAY IN THE, IN THE ASPECT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT YOUR SUCCESS MATRIX, THAT, THAT YOU ALL IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE STUFF THAT'S IN THERE, THAT'S JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET YOUR MIND UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU KNOW, THE FLOW OF HOW THINGS ARE MEANT TO GO. YOU SHOULD IDENTIFY YOUR OWN ITEMS. SO IF I JUST TOOK A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, IT'S IS THAT WE BELIEVE STAFF SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. OKAY. THAT'S LIKE THE THING THAT WOULD BE IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. THEN YOU WOULD DEFINE WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE IF YOU ARE DOING THAT WELL, AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU'VE READ IT WITHIN THE LAST WEEK, YOU'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN IN THE PACKET, LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THAT ARE LIKE, MAN, IF THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING, I FEEL REALLY GOOD. RIGHT? WITH, WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEING PRODUCED, THAT'S THE STUFF THAT YOU DEFINE. IT CAN BE THAT GRANULAR. I'VE MADE SOME OF THE ONES THAT I'VE CREATED FOR MY STAFF, EXCEPTIONALLY GRANULAR TOO. LIKE, I EXPECT WITHIN 72 HOURS, YOU DO THIS WITHIN 48 HOURS, YOU DO THAT [01:35:01] WITHIN 24 HOURS, YOU DO THIS. SO THE POINT IS, IS THAT IF I'M SITTING THERE GETTING AGITATED BY SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE'S DOING AND THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR UNLESS I ARTICULATE THAT THEY'RE NOT MEETING MY EXPECTATIONS. BUT JUST YOU'RE NOT MEETING MY EXPECTATIONS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. UM, I HAD A, I HAD ONE THAT'S JUST REALLY SILLY, BUT IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. UH, AND I KNOW THE MAYOR'S GONNA LOVE THIS ONE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH STOCKING THE REFRIGERATOR IN THE BREAK ROOM . BUT, BUT I ASKED FOR STAFF TO STOCK THE REFRIGERATOR IN THE BREAK ROOM DAILY. SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE RESPONSE. OR I ASKED HIM TO STOCK THE REFRIGERATOR. I DIDN'T START OUT WITH DAILY, I SAID, STOCK THE REFRIGERATOR. SO THEN LIKE THREE DAYS PASS AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS STOCKED AND THREE DAYS PASS AND I GO IN THERE, WE HAVE A MEETING AND IT'S STRIPPED. THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. SO I ASKED THAT. I WAS LIKE, I THOUGHT I ASKED YOU TO STOCK THE REFRIGERATOR. OH, WELL, WELL I DID, BUT I DO THAT ON MONDAYS. I WAS LIKE, WELL THAT DOESN'T WORK. OKAY. SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU STOCK IT DAILY. SO THEN WE ROLL INTO CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THE, THE, THE THING IS CHIRPING BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN EMPTY ALL THE DAY BEFORE AND ALL THE REST OF THE DAY, AND IT'S CHIRPING BECAUSE ALL THE HOT DRINKS WERE PUT IN THERE AND IT COULDN'T COOL IT OFF FAST ENOUGH. SO NOW I WAS LIKE, LOOK, THE DRINKS NEED TO BE COOL BY THE TIME THE NEXT DAY STARTS, SO THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO BE STOCKING IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THOSE THINGS WERE ANNOYING ME, BUT THE PERSON THAT WAS DOING IT THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THEIR JOB. SO THAT'S MY POINT. I KNOW IT'S A SILLY LITTLE THING, BUT IT'S LIKE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS DOING THAT'S BOTHERSOME OR IS NOT MEETING YOUR EXPECTATION, THIS IS HOW YOU CLARIFY IT. SO YOU GO PUT IT IN AND IF IT IS WHATEVER IT IS TO DO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANNA SEE, YOU PUT IN, THIS IS WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO GET INTO ACTUAL LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, STATISTICS AND STUFF IF YOU REALLY WANT TO. BUT THE GOAL IS, IS FOR Y'ALL AS A BODY TO ARTICULATE TO YOUR STAFF WHAT IT IS THAT SHE NEEDS TO BE DOING IN ORDER TO SATISFY WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND THEN IF THERE ARE DELTAS OR IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN WHAT Y'ALL EXPECT AND WHAT WE CAN PERFORM, THEN I KNOW THAT, AND THEN I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO SCAFFOLD THAT UP OR DO WHATEVER NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THOSE EXPECTATIONS MET. THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR. I APOLOGIZE. UH, I JUST HAVE ONE, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENT. SO IN ADDITION TO FEELING LIKE THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A GOOD HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, UM, TRICKLE DOWN STEP TO, TO REALLY BE GETTING GRANULAR AT ALL, UM, I ALMOST KIND OF THINK THAT THE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS YOU WERE DISCUSSING WOULD BE ALSO IMPORTANT TO HAVE BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I JUST STARTED DOING THIS THIS YEAR. I'M STILL LEARNING SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT SHE EVEN DOES BECAUSE THERE'S SO, I MEAN, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON. I'M INCREDIBLY HAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW WE'VE BEEN GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND, AND I CAN TELL SHE WORKS SUPER HARD AND SO, BUT I'M STILL LEARNING HER WHAT SHE DOES, SO I COULD, IF YOU ASK ME TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT. MM-HMM . SO I WOULD LOVE TO REALLY GET TO KNOW HER MORE AND, UM, HAVE THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH I'M STILL LEARNING. IT'S VERY WORDY. UM, AND SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO TRANSLATE IT FOR MYSELF STILL AS WELL. SO ALSO I, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE US GETTING TO THAT POINT. I DON'T, BUT IS THERE SOME TIME IN WITHIN WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? WELL, I FIND THAT THINGS DON'T GET DONE IF I DON'T PUT TIMELINES ON THEM. TAKE GRANULAR ON ME, . YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO, UH, UM, SO IDEALLY BY THE BEGINNING OF MARCH YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE ARTICULATED, 'CAUSE THAT'S EFFECTIVELY THREE MORE MEETINGS. MM-HMM . UM, OR YOUR THIRD MEETING FROM NOW. YOU SHOULD HAVE ARTICULATED, FRANKLY, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT ARE CAUSING AGITATION FOR Y'ALL, IT CAN'T GO ON MUCH LONGER. Y Y'ALL HAVE TO GET THAT RESOLVED AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT RESOLVED IS TO ARTICULATE IT. SO. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. THAT WOULD BE MY RESPONSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM SIX? SIX? ALRIGHT, SO MOVING ON. UM, ITEM SIX SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 15 SIX TO APPROVE A RIGHT OF ENTRY FOR DUE DILIGENCE. INSPECTION RELATED TO THE RESIDENCE LOCATED ON CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY AT THE HUD OMEGA SITE. THANK YOU. SO, UM, THIS ITEM MIRRORS AN ITEM THAT THIS BOARD, UH, TOOK UP LAST YEAR. WE HAVE A HOME THAT IS LOCATED RIGHT ON 79, BUT ON EDC PROPERTY. UM, AND SOMEONE REACHED [01:40:01] OUT TO US LAST MONTH, IT WAS AFTER THE DEADLINE FOR, FOR THAT MEETING, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT I DID LET THEM KNOW I'D PUT IT ON FOR THIS ONE. BUT THEY ARE WANTING TO ACCESS THAT HOME SITE TO INVESTIGATE IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT, UM, AND USE IT FOR A NONPROFIT. UM, IS THIS WHERE THAT LITTLE QUO HUT BUILDING WAS NEXT TO IT? LIKE BEHIND IT OR IS, AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE? NO, IT, UM, IT'S THE, IT'S THE WHITE FARMHOUSE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM 79. OH YES. ON THE MEGA SITE. IT'S THE ONE CLOSEST TO 79. THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ONE ON EDC PROPERTY ALSO, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S UP AGAINST THE RAIL, THE WRONG ONE IN 79. SO THIS IS JUST A STANDARD RIGHT OF ENTRY, UM, ACCESS SO THAT THEY CAN GO INVESTIGATE THE PROPERTY WITH THEIR POTENTIAL MOVING COMPANY TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. OKAY. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE BOARD HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SIMILAR REQUESTS. WHERE'S THIS HOUSE OUT COM IN CONJUNCTION TO KRUGER, WHAT IS IT? KRUGER PARKWAY. KRUGER BOULEVARD. KRUGER BOULEVARD. WELL, THIS IS RIGHT ON 79, SO IT'S IT'S A FAIR JAUNT. IT'S, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS. HAVE EVER SEEN THAT? HAVE WE BEEN IN IT BEFORE? I DON'T BEEN BEEN IN IT. YEAH. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. ISN'T IT RIGHT NEXT TO THE OVERPASS? IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THE BRIDGE. RIGHT BEFORE THE OVERPASS. UM, NO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, FURTHER DOWN, FURTHER. WE, WE HAD A DEAL FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT GETTING IT MOVED MM-HMM . AND THEN IT JUST NEVER HAPPENED AND, AND YEAH, THAT TERM EXPIRED YEAR AND A HALF AGO. MM-HMM . THIS MIGHT BE PART OF THE SUCCESS MATRIX. THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND 'CAUSE LIKE I I MAP IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WELL, YEAH, LIKE LOCATION OR LIKE, I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO IN IT AND LOOK AT IT FIRST. WE MAY GO IN THERE AND IT'S JUST, I MEAN, BEFORE WE GIVE SOMEONE TO WRITE TO ENTER, WE, WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND GO, THERE'S NO WAY THIS THING'S EVEN, IT'S, IT'S SCRAP WOOD OR SOMETHING. BUT, UM, THE ONLY THING I'D SAY IS WE GIVE IT TO 'EM. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT THEY GUN HAD TO HAVE AN INSURANCE. THEY NEED TO. RIGHT. I THINK IT WHO COVERS THE LIABILITY OF ANY INJURY YOU'RE HOLDING THE OWNER HARMLESS. UM, YEAH, BUT IT'S ON EDC, BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING ON THE PROPERTY TO LOOK AT IT. IT DOESN'T, IT'S JUST FOR DUE DILIGENCE. IT'S NOT FOR THE ACTUAL ACTION OF MOVING IT. I KNOW, BUT THEY COULD STILL TRIP AND FALL. THERE'S AN A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT HOLDS THE OWNER HARMLESS, UH, FOR ANY OKAY. LIABILITY. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THERE'S NO REASON TO, TO ALSO SAY, HEY, IN ORDER TO ADD ANOTHER PROPERTY, YOU NEED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF $2 MILLION INSURANCE POLICY. I MEAN, IT IS AN APPRAISER THAT'S COMING ON. SO IT'S STANDARD. IT'S NOT TYPICALLY STANDARD THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GET AN INSURANCE POLICY TO HAVE AN APPRAISER COME ON. USUALLY IF THEY'RE GONNA DO BIGGER INSPECTIONS, UM, IT'S A THING WE CAN ADD THOUGH, IF YOU PREFER. YEAH. TYPICALLY IF THE PERSON IS IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THEIR DUTIES IN EMPLOYMENT AND THEY GET HURT OH, THEY GET COVERED. IT BECOMES A WORKERS' COMPENSATION ISSUE. YEAH. THEY USUALLY ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN PREVENTS THIRD PARTY CLAIMS. AND THEN IF THERE WAS A THIRD PARTY CLAIM, THAT'S WHERE THE DUE DILIGENCE COMES IN FOR PURPOSES OF THE INDEMNITY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CALL ON ANY INSURANCE COMPANY THAT MAY BE INVOLVED IN THAT, UM, IN THAT EMPLOYER RELATIONSHIP. BUT WE CAN, WE, WE CAN ADD MAKE THEM ADDITIONALLY INSURED ACCOUNT WOULD LIKE, WOULD LIKE ADD ALL OF THESE ARE DRAFTED WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE PROVING IT IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORM, YOU KNOW, CONFORMITY. WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW PEOPLE TO DRIVE BY OUR PROPERTY WITHOUT BEING ADDITIONALLY INSURED. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I ALWAYS SAY STILL OVERKILL, BUT SOME TWIST HER ANKLE AND YEAH, I JUST KNOW THAT IT SEEMS LIKE ANYMORE GO GOING TO COURT, UH, GET EXPENSIVE, ADD AN INSURANCE REQUIREMENT. I'M JUST GOING OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WANNA PUT IT OFF ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT FIRST. PERSONALLY, I THINK WE, SOMEONE OUGHT TO LOOK AT IT TO EVEN KNOW WHAT WE EVEN HAVE THERE. UM, YEAH, IT COULD BE REALLY NICE INSIDE AND WE, THE CITY MIGHT WANT IT TO LO RELOCATE IT SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW. PUT IT BACK IN THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. THIS IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN APPRAISAL AND YOU'RE ONLY GIVING 'EM TWO WEEKS TO DO IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT AN INSURANCE POLICY IS NECESSARY. IF, I MEAN THIS, IT'S LIKE IF YOU WERE SELLING A HOUSE, YOU WOULDN'T MAKE THEM GET AN INSURANCE POLICY NO MATTER HOW OLD THE HOUSE TO GO SEE THE HOUSE AND HAVE AN APPRAISER COME IN THERE. UM, IF NO ONE WAS LIVING IT, I, AND I OWNED IT AS A, I MAY AS A PIECE OF INVESTMENT PROPERTY ONLY BECAUSE, AND HERE'S WHY I SAY LOOK AT IT. IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT, I MEAN, I I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IT, I GUESS IS IT VACANT? IS THERE STUFF [01:45:01] IN IT? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT. AND THEN, THEN YEAH. WHAT THE CONDITION IS AND THEN MOST PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT MY PROPERTY KNOW I'M POOR, SO THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT SUING ME. BUT THEN THEY WALK ONTO THIS LAND. WOULD THEY THEN, I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS ARE CONFIDENT THAT HEY, WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY, THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL FOR ME. I JUST ALWAYS LOOK ANYMORE. EVERYBODY THAT COMES ONTO INVOLVES WITH A CITY'S ALWAYS GOT THEIR HAND OUT. YOU MAY NOT SEE IT OUT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT IT ALWAYS ENDS UP POPPING OUT AT SOME POINT. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TYPICAL FOR JUST AN APPRAISAL, BUT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO ADD IT. SO IT'S REALLY WHAT THE BOARD WANTS. THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I PUT THAT IN FOR A QUARRY OR A, A REVIEW FOR A CONDEMNATION CASE ONCE. SO I MEAN IT'S NOT, I MEAN, I LIKE THE APPRAISAL 'CAUSE WE COULD SELL THIS HOUSE. WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON GIVING IT AWAY. RIGHT. WELL TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT FOR AN APPRAISAL. THIS IS FOR THEM TO COME ON SITE AND INSPECT THE PROPERTY, SEE IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE, MOVE, RELOCATING IT. OH, WELL THIS SAYS APPRAISAL. APPLICANT SEEKS ANOTHER PROPERTY FOR SURVEY ASSESSMENT FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WANT TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED. MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS SECOND. WHAT? WHAT'D YOU SAY SECOND? SORRY. MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD. AND WHAT'S THE PROPER LANGUAGE? UH, POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. POSTPONED INDEFINITELY OR TO A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD? YEAH, IF IT'S INDEFINITE, THEN IT WON'T COME BACK. IF IT'S SPECIFIC TIME, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A REQUEST FOR IT TO COME BACK. OH, THE, TO THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN HAVE THE ANSWERS. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. YEAH. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. YEAH. OKAY. YOU GOOD WITH THAT? COUNCIL? OR SEE I'M DOING IT TOO. . BOARD MEMBER. BOARD FIELD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? YOU PASS IT AROUND. ALL RIGHT. CALL A VOTE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. BOARD MEMBER? MORRIS AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX EIGHT. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING BOARD MEMBER ATTENDANCE AT UPCOMING EVENTS, INCLUDING THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY GROWTH SUMMIT AND HU AREA CHAMBER. CHAMBER GALA. THANK YOU. SO, AS I MENTIONED IN MY, UH, DIRECTOR'S REPORT, WE DO HAVE SOME UPCOMING TICKETED EVENTS. UH, WHILE THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE, UH, FUNDING APPROVED FOR THE WILCO GROWTH SUMMIT ATTENDANCE, WE HAVE HAD ONE COMPANY ALREADY REACH OUT AND OFFER A TICKET. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE BOARD WHO'S AVAILABLE, WHO'S INTERESTED, SO THAT IF AND WHEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARISE, I CAN CONNECT THOSE BOARD MEMBERS TO THAT. I ALREADY HAVE A TICKET TO BOTH. OKAY. EXCELLENT. I'D LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED. OKAY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED OKAY. FOR BOTH, FOR ONE, SORRY. I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THE DATES AND TIMES THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL. , UH, THE GROWTH SUMMIT IS ON DECEMBER 18TH FROM 11 TO ONE, AND THE CHAMBER GALA IS ON FEBRUARY 24TH. IT STARTS AT 4:00 PM YES. TO BOTH. OKAY. MINE, JUST FOR THE DECEMBER 18TH. OKAY. KIND OF A SIDE NOTE, YOU SAID THAT THE, UH, THE WILCO, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS HAD A MEETING LAST FRIDAY. MM-HMM . I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE A NOTICE IN THE CITY EMAIL. I, I'D LIKE TO ATTEND THOSE JUST GOING FORWARD. THEY'RE BOARD MEMBERS ONLY. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . OR SPEAKERS, IF WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING THEM, JUST TO SPEAKING, BE CLEAR, BOARD MEMBERS OF WILCO? YES. WILCO, EDP BOARD MEMBERS, CORRECT? I PLAN ON GOING TO BOTH, BUT I, ARE THOSE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? THE WILCO EDP BOARD? NO, THEY'RE CLOSED MEETINGS. IF THEY WERE OPEN, IT'D BE LIKE AN EDC MEETING. MOST OF THE ACTION WOULD BE IN THE BACK. PROBABLY WE'RE TO AN ACTION UP HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO THE GROWTH SUMMIT AND I THINK TYPICALLY I BUY A TICKET TO THE CHAMBER GALA ONLY. MM-HMM . UM, BECAUSE I'VE KIND OF TRIED TO GET THE CITY TO NOT, NOT PAY FOR THAT. SO THE, I, BUT I, I PLAN ON GOING TO THAT TOO. OKAY. SO FOR THE, FOR THE GROWTH SUMMIT, WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE TICKETS. THIS IS JUST WHEN COMPANIES, IF AND WHEN COMPANIES REACH OUT AND OFFER THOSE, I'M HAPPY TO, TO CONNECT Y'ALL WITH THE THOSE SOURCES FOR THE CHAMBER GALA. THE EDC DOES PURCHASE A TABLE OF 10. SO WE HAVE 10 TICKETS. SO I WAS JUST SEEKING DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. WE'VE HAD A MIXTURE OF BOARD MEMBERS, STAFF MEMBERS, AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE PAST. SO JUST SOME DIRECTION ON [01:50:01] WHO, HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THEN IF WE, IF WE HAVE EXTRAS OR IF WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE, UM, INCLUDING BUSINESS MEMBERS AND OR BUSINESS OWNERS, THEN HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO. I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE SO MANY TICKETS. I'LL ADD MY NAME TO THE GALA AS WELL. OKAY. , MAYBE ATTENDING TO ANOTHER ENTITY. IT'S REALLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BUSINESS OWNERS. THAT'S WHAT I'VE, UH, EXPERIENCED WHEN I ATTENDED LAST YEAR. YEAH. MM-HMM . THAT WAS NICE. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST TIME GOING TO THAT ONE, SO. MM-HMM . ANY DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ON THE GALA IN PARTICULAR? WHO YOU WANNA INCLUDE AT THE TABLE? OH, I'LL, I'M GONNA BUY A TICKET SOMEWHERE SO THAT OPEN UP FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT OTHERS AND YEAH, IF I ATTEND, I'LL BUY MY OWN TICKET. SO. OKAY. BUT YOU COULD INCLUDE SOME OF THE, UH, LARGER BUSINESSES, MAYBE EVEN POTENTIAL CLIENTS. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SOCIALIZE AND ENGAGE WITH OUR BUSINESSES. I THINK IN A, UH, ON A MORE PERSONAL LEVEL, MAYBE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE OPENED THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HU TO LIKE COOKIE OR PANERA DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, BUT IF CHEWY THE BOOKSTORE. MM-HMM . OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM SIX, EIGHT? NOPE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE GOOD WITH ME JUST DOING A MIXTURE OF BUSINESS FOLKS, SEEING IF THEY WANT TO COME. I DON'T TYPICALLY BRING A SPOUSE, YOU, 'CAUSE I'M ALWAYS OUT TALKING TO EVERYBODY, SO WE GETS LEFT BEHIND ANYWAY. SO , IT'S USUALLY JUST ME, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M ALIGNING 'CAUSE THAT IS A PAID RESOURCE FOR THIS, OR PAID EVENT FOR THIS BOARD. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND AND THEN MYSELF, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE OPENED THIS YEAR. IS THAT WELL, I WOULD SAY ALSO, I MEAN, WHOEVER YOU HAVE ON YOUR STAFF THAT GOES AND DOES THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE BRE, THE MM-HMM . I WOULD SAY THOSE PEOPLE, UM, BUSINESSES TOO. BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD INCLUDE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER. THAT WAY THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE PEOPLE MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THE WORK HOURS. MM-HMM . I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH LIKE, THE ETIQUETTE OF WHO WE WOULD BRING . SO, I DUNNO, I WISH I COULD BE MORE HELPFUL. . YEAH. I'D GO BOARD FIRST. FOLLOWED BY STAFF. FOLLOWED BY IF YOU HAVE ANY SPOTS LEFT OVER LIKE I'M A NO. NAH, I ALREADY HAVE A TICKET. ALREADY HAVE A TICKET. MM. YOU'RE GOING, DOES IT END DAN'S BUYING? JIM WILL GO WITH MIA PROBABLY. NO. NO. SO THAT'S THREE. SO YOU GOT THREE TICKETS UP HERE. PLUS SHE'S FOUR. MM-HMM . SO IF IT WAS ME, I'D SAY THE NEXT SIX GOES TO YOUR STAFF FIRST. MM-HMM . THEY WANNA BRING SOMEBODY BECAUSE WE ARE, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION. YOU GUYS ARE JUST WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK. AND SO IT OUGHT BE ONE NIGHT EVEN CHRISTINA. 'CAUSE SHE'S GRINDING ON STUFF THAT SHE ATTENDED WITH US I THINK THE YEAR BEFORE. RIGHT. AGAIN, TO ME IT'S LIKE, REALLY? I THOUGHT EVERY YEAR. OH MY BAD. I THOUGHT YOU CAME WITH US ONE YEAR. . NO, THANKS. YOU THERE. SHE GETS ENOUGH OF ME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SHE'S LIKE, I DON'T WANNA HANG OUT WITH YOU. . YEAH. THINGS LIKE THAT TO WHERE YEAH. IF CHRISTINA WANTS AGO, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION WHEN SHE'S, WHEN WE'RE MEETING WITH BUSINESSES, SHE'S HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF 'EM TOO IN TERMS OF FINANCING AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO WHERE THESE PEOPLE PUT NAMES AND FACES. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OVER AFTER OH SIX, IF THERE'S A BOOK EMPORIUM WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO, UM, AND, AND MI MS. KIMBA, I, I MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH ANOTHER ENTITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW YET. SO IF THERE'S A STAFF THAT YOU, I'D GIVE UP MY SEAT FOR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IF THEY WANTED TO GO OR ANY OTHER, HE'LL GIVE UP TO THE PERSON WHO JUST SAID, I'M NOT GOING , BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. RESPECTFULLY. SHE DECLINES. I'M JUST KIDDING. . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX NINE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE CORPORATION SPECIAL CALL JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 24TH, 2025 AND THEIR REGULAR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. SO MOVED SECOND. OH, WE GOT IT. . MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER [01:55:01] SCHNEIDER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, I THINK NO. BOARD MEMBER. MORRIS . SOUNDS GOOD. CALL THE VOTE. OH, EXCUSE ME. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD. AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. SO DO I VOTE SINCE I DIDN'T ATTEND THAT MEETING? THAT IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ABSTAIN, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. OKAY, I'LL ABSTAIN. OKAY. VICE CHAIR MORALES. AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. FIVE. DO I SAY ONE ZERO. 1 0 0. ONE. FIVE. ZERO. FIVE ZERO. ONE. 5 0 1. THANK YOU . SORRY. OKAY, WE WILL NOW, UM, THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS THE OPEN MEETING AND RECONVENE AND EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION 5 5 1 0 8 7 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 5 5 1 0 7 2 REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. PROJECT SQL PROJECT STRAT. THREE, THE MEGASITE PROJECT, PROJECT ORCHARD PROJECT CORE PROJECT LAKE PROJECT FOOTBALL PROJECT, AIR AND PROJECT SOLAR POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS. THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR HU HOSPITALITY, THE LOAN FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES AND ANY RELATED INCENTIVES. THE CLOSING OF RAILROAD CROSSINGS AND CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY, AND THE EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR INCENTIVES. THE TIME IS NOW EIGHT 30. OKAY. ALRIGHT. B, NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN MEETING. UM, THE TIME IS NOW. HOLD ON. 10 17. YES. 17. 10 17. NO ACTION MISTAKE . WE'RE ALL HELPING . UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 8.1. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 1 57 TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD FOR THE HURO HOSPITALITY INCENTIVE. UH, MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IS THAT YES. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UH, MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MORALES. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. UH, CALL FOR VOTE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. MOTION PASSES 6 0 8 0.2, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 15 8 2. APPROVE THE REFINANCING OF THE LOAN FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES. SO MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. UH, MOTION. UH, CAN YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK INTO YOUR MIC? THIS ONE WE WERE, I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL SOME DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE BETWEEN THE PARTIES OR WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO APPROVE. OKAY. SORRY. RESEND, UH, MOTION JUST TO RESPOND WITH WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. RIGHT. OKAY. WAIT. SECOND. THANK YOU. UM, MOTION PRESENTED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES AND SECONDED BY, UH, BOARD MEMBER THORNTON. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM 8.3. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2025 DASH 1 59 TO APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF THE CLOSURE OF TWO RAILROAD CROSSINGS LOCATED ON CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY AT THE HU OMEGA SITE CHAIR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD DENY RESOLUTION. R-H-E-D-C DASH 2025 DASH 15 NINE. REFUSING TO CLOSE TWO RAILROAD CROSSINGS LOCATED ON CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY AT THE HU OMEGA SITE. SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL A VOTE BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER [02:00:01] AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ITEM 8.4. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION REDC DASH 2025 DASH 60 TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE OPTION AND PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT SEQUEL. UM, I THINK IT WAS JUST MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S YES. YES. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES. SECONDED BY BOARD MIN STEINER. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ AYE. BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO ITEM 8.5 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE. UM, MS. VICE CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO HIRE AN APPRAISAL NOT TO EXCEED $4,000 FOR PROJECT ERROR AND TO BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING MEETING. SECOND. MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE. BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE. SECRETARY GONZALEZ. AYE. BOARD MEMBER SNYDER. AYE. VICE CHAIR MORALES AYE. BOARD MEMBER THORNTON AYE. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON. ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? CAN WE, UH, DISCUSS THAT, UH, PROPERTY THAT I THINK IT'S SECTION EIGHT THAT IS OFF OF, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. OH, THE CROMA CREEK? RIGHT ACROSS. BRING THAT BACK UP FOR A MEETING. YEAH. JUST TO SEE, I MEAN, IT'S, IF IT'S ALIVE, IS IT DEAD? ARE WE HAVING SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT? MM-HMM . OKAY. ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA? AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. UH, TIME IS 10 22. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.