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DR.[Planning and Zoning on February 3, 2026.]
IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK.SO WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD AT 7:00 PM TO ORDER.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS 4.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 6TH, 2025.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.
I'LL SECOND IT ALL SO I HAVE A MOTION COURT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.
REAL, DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE, UH, ON THE MINUTES, LIKE ON THIS ONE WE HAD THE DEVELOPER FOR THE BLACK HAWK BLUFFS HERE, UH, IN THE MINUTES SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T, I, UNLESS I'M BLIND AND I'M NOT SEEING IT SAYING THAT HE WAS HERE AND TOOK QUESTIONS.
JUST SO THERE'S A RECORD THAT WE DID TALK TO THE, UH, DEVELOPER.
UH, BUT THE PERSON WHO IS DICTATING THE MINUTES, I KNOW I'M, I'M JUST, JUST TO BE MADE AWARE OF.
I'M JUST ASKING IF THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE JUST TO PUT A, A NOTE IN THERE.
SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? I DO THAT ON THE MINUTES FOR 4.2.
WE ADD THAT I, I'M BLANKING ON, ON HIS NAME, BUT WE ADD THAT THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE, UH, WAS PRESENT IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MY MOTION.
THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR 4.2 BLUFFS AT BLACKHAWK PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT BE, UH, NOTED THAT HE WAS PRESENT AND DID ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO WE WILL DO THE AMENDMENT FIRST UNLESS WE WANT TO JUST DO IT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
ALL RIGHT THEN IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
NEXT IS ITEM 4.2 CONSIDERATION, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DURANGO FARMS PHASE ONE LOT TWO, A BLOCK, A REPL, 1.226 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ME LANE AND 1660.
UM, MANNY HERNANDEZ FOR THE RECORD, THE REPL OF LOT TWO A BLOCK, A DURANGO FARMS. PHASE ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.226 ACRES AND INCLUDES TWO LOTS, UH, DURANGO FARMS. PHASE ONE WAS ORIGINALLY PLANTED IN 2020 AND LATER REPLANTED IN 2021 TO DEDICATE DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALK EASEMENTS.
THE PROPOSED REPL CONSISTS OF ONE EXISTING COMMERCIAL LOT AND A LANDSCAPE SLASH COMMON AREA LOT.
THAT'S HOW THE, UH, DEVELOPERS LABELED IT ON THE PLAT.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PUD.
THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS ARE, UH, APARTMENTS.
UH, IT'S A PUD, BUT IT'S APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH.
UM, AS WELL AS MAN LANE TO THE EAST.
WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL OLD TOWN OT THREE AND TO THE WEST.
WE ALSO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY PART OF THAT DURANGO FARMS, ALSO A PUD.
SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PUD AS THAT WAS STATED EARLIER, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO SUBDIVIDE LOT TWO A TO ESTABLISH OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE MONUMENT SIGN AND LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION.
UH, LOT TWO A CURRENTLY HOUSES A DAYCARE.
UH, THIS WILL BECOME LOT TWO A ONE AND THE SIGN ALONG WITH THE LANDSCAPE SCA LANDSCAPING WILL BE BECOME LOT TWO.
UH, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE A, THE PLAT IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I INCLUDED A ZOOMED IN VERSION HERE ON THE SCREEN SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN VIEW IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EASILY.
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YOU'LL SEE ON THAT, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER THAT LOT TWO A TWO.THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THAT, UH, MONUMENT SIGN AND LANDSCAPING IS.
IT'LL JUST ESTABLISH THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AS THE OWNER AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
SO THIS IS A REVIEWED AND IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THEIR UDC.
UM, AND THEY DID WAIVE THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL.
UM, AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE KIND OF TECHNICAL.
UM, THE FIRST ONE THAT I SEE HERE IS A THREE FOOT SIDEWALK EASEMENT.
I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR DURANGO FARMS, BUT I THINK OUR UDC SAYS FIVE FOOT.
THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DEDICATED IN THAT 2021.
UH, SO THAT WAS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SOME SORT OF EXCEPTION WHERE THEY ONLY NEED TO PUT THREE FEET OF SIDEWALKING INSTEAD OF THE UDC IS FIVE IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
DON'T GO THERE, HUH? YEAH, I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE.
UM, THERE'S A 10 FOOT PUE ON MEGA LANE, AND THEN I SEE A THREE FOOT PUE CUTTING BETWEEN LOT TWO A DASH ONE AND LOT TWO A DASH TWO.
IS THERE NOT A PUE ON 1660 IN THAT SAME LOCATION? OR IS THERE A REASON THAT IT HAS TO CUT THROUGH LIKE THAT? SEE IT RUNNING KIND OF DIAGONALLY? YEAH.
THERE'S A PUE ON, IS IT, ARE YOU REFERENCING THIS? UH, IF YOU LOOK JUST TO THE LEFT OF LOT TWO A, THERE'S A DIAGONAL LINE RUNNING NO NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST AND IT SAYS THREE FOOT PUE ON IT.
COULD, COULD THERE BE LIGHT POLES THERE? AND THAT'S THE UNDERGROUND FEED FORM RIGHT THERE.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE ISN'T A PUE ALREADY ON LIMMER OR ON 1660.
THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING WHERE IS THAT PUE IF IT'S NOT RUNNING ALONG LOT TWO A ONE.
CAN YOU PULL THIS UP ON GOOGLE EARTH OR SOMETHING? WHAT IS IN IT? ACTUALLY, I THINK THERE'S A SIGN RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SORT OF ELECTRICAL THAT TRYING, THERE'S, THERE'S A SIGN RIGHT THERE FOR THE CHILDCARE.
I, I JUST FIND IT VERY ODD THAT THERE'S A THREE FOOT PUE WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO SUFFER THROUGH A FIVE OR A 10 YEAH.
AND IT'S CUTTING DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE LOT.
MOST PE UES RUN ALONG THE STREETS OR THE SIDEWALKS.
SO JUST WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
COULD IT, COULD IT HAVE BEEN THAT BEFORE THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS EVEN THOUGHT OF AND IT WAS A VACANT LAND THAT THIS PUE WAS PUT IN FOR FUTURE, I GUESS DEVELOPMENT AND IT COULD, IT'S JUST THERE AND IT COULD BE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
BUT BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SIX, IT'S LIKE THREE FOOT ON BOTH PROPERTY LINES.
BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK AT MER JUST TO THE LEFT OF WHERE THAT P OE INTERSECTS WITH MER 10 FOOT.
WELL, THERE'S A 20 FOOT, THERE'S A 20 FOOT ELECTRIC EASEMENT ALSO THERE.
THAT'S TO NORTH, ISN'T IT? NOPE.
THERE'S A ALONG THAT LINE RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S A 20 FOOT RIGHT THERE.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT IT, THAT'S WHY BECAUSE OF THAT 20, THAT 10 FOOT, THAT 20 FOOT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, WHY ARE THEY CUTTING THE CORNER OR WHY ARE WE CUTTING THE CORNER? CAN SOMEONE, MY GUESS IS THAT THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING UNDERGROUND THERE.
MANNY, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT PUE THAT THREE FOOT? WELL, IF THIS WAS ONE LOT, THEY PROBABLY TRENCHED THAT WAY TO THE SIGN.
'CAUSE IT WAS A SHORTER TRENCH.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
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OKAY.I THINK IF IT WAS THERE WHEN THEY DECIDED TO SPLIT IT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEDICATE IT.
SO, WELL, WE, WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS IN OLD TOWN, NOT NECESSARILY GERMANE TO THIS, BUT RELATED TO THIS, WHERE THERE ARE LINES AND PIPES AND ELECTRICAL CONDUITS THAT AREN'T MAPPED.
AND IF WE CAN PREVENT THAT FROM OCCURRING AND PUT THEM, OH, I DON'T KNOW, IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS,
WELL, LET, LET ME ASK THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT COULD THEY VACATE THAT UTIL THAT THREE FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ON THAT PROPERTY? COULD THEY REQUEST THAT THING? IF THERE'S NOTHING, IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
THAT'S WHY I WANT KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING THERE? 'CAUSE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THERE, TO YOUR POINT, THEN YES, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE A PUE OVER IT.
BUT IF THERE ISN'T, CAN WE LOOK AT GIS AND SEE, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF EASEMENT ON THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY TO GIS.
RIGHT? YOU GOT, YOU GOT IT DOWN ON ME LANE.
YOU GOT IT ON 1660 PLUS THEN THE, THE THREE, THAT'S WHAT IT TO WHAT IS THERE'S A SIGN RIGHT THERE? NO, IT'S A, OH, IT'S LIKE THEIR LITTLE DEVELOPED.
THERE'S A SIGN THERE FOR THE, FOR THE CHILDCARE.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS AT.
SO IS THAT'S WHERE P'S HEADED.
OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT THEIR ENTRANCE AND WHERE THEY, THEY'RE COMING IN AT WHY CUT ACROSS, BRING IT UP? NO, I'M GONNA DRIVE TO THE ONLY OTHER THING COULD BE IS THAT CORNER OR THE TWO A ONE IS OR TWO A TWO, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA BE.
THAT'S THE BIG SIGN FOR DURANGO FARMS. IT IS.
SO DID THEY CUT BEHIND THIS? THEY'RE CUTTING BEHIND IT.
IT'S PROBABLY LIKE THEIR LANDSCAPE LIGHTING, THEIR SPRINKLER LINES.
SO AGAIN, YEAH, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PUE.
BUT WHY, WHY COULD A CROSS WHEN YOU SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT, THAT ONE IS, HUH? THAT'S OUTTA THE ORDINARY.
SO I, I I, LOOKING AT THIS ON GOOGLE, I THINK THAT PAY UE SHOULD BE VACATED.
WHERE IS WHERE AND THE DAYCARE SITE BE RELOCATED IF THAT'S THE CASE.
YOU HAVE THE MONUMENT SIGN MM-HMM.
THE DURANGO FARMS, AND HERE'S A DAYCARE SIGN RIGHT BEHIND IT.
BUT IF IT'S BEING PROVIDED BY ELECTRICAL FROM THE SITE, THAT WOULDN'T BE, THAT SHOULDN'T BE COMING DIRECTLY OFF THE PUE.
THAT SHOULD BE COMING OFF OF THEIR BOX ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN RUNNING OUT TO THEIR SIDE, NOT COMING OFF OF THE UTILITY DIRECTLY.
BUT UNTIL STAFF HAS CONFIRMED WHAT EXACTLY IS IN THAT PUE, UM, WE CANNOT ASK TO DO ANYTHING
AND AND WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THEM WANTING TO DO THIS? THAT'S THE CORNER.
THEY'RE SEPARATING THE CORNER OUT TO SEPARATE THAT CORNER OUT SO THAT THE 5,300 SQUARE FEET IS THEN HOA PROPERTY AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA CHICKEN OUT.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR MAYBE NOT.
IS IS THAT CORRECT? THEY, THE REASON THEY'RE DOING THIS IS TO HAVE THAT 5,300 SQUARE FEET MAINTAINED BY THE HOA OWNED BY THE HOA AND NOT PART OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THAT IS TWO A DASH ONE IS RIGHT HERE.
IT'S RIGHT IN THE VICINITY OF THIS SOMEWHERE.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHY THEY'RE, IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THAT POE WELL, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT'S IN THE PUE.
I MEAN, FARMER HAD THAT BEFORE THEY YEAH.
BUT THEY'RE USING THE PROPERTY NOW, SO THAT WHY IS IT IT CUT UP LIKE THAT? WE DO NOT HAVE A SHOT CLOCK ON THIS ITEM.
MY THOUGHT, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I HAD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT.
I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION ASK FORGIVENESS.
CAN I ASK, WHAT WAS THE MOTION? CAN I ASK THAT YOU SET A DATE OF MARCH 3RD? SURE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL MARCH 3RD, THE NEXT PNC REGULAR MEETING.
UH, WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT'S IN THE THREE FOOT PUE.
WHAT IS GOING ON THERE? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY FROM WHAT DURANGO FARMS, UH, WHATEVER, COME AND, AND EXPLAIN THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW ME, I'M ALWAYS GOING ASK IT WAS ENGINEER, RIGHT? SO I'M, I'M OKAY WITH DURANGO FARMS SHOWING UP OR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER SHOWING THAT THERE IS OR ISN'T SOMETHING IN THERE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS SCHRODINGER'S P OE
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MY, MY QUESTION IS THEY DO IT NOT ASK PERMISSION AND THEN GONNA SAY ASK FORGIVENESS LATER.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THERE BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED IN THE PLOT NOTES FOR WHAT'S IN THAT THREE FOOT PUE AND IT DOES NOT STATE EXACTLY.
UM, OR WHAT, WHAT, I MEAN, COULD WE GET THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, AND LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SEE WHAT'S IN THERE? OR THE ENGINEERING DESIGNS FOR THE, FOR THE LAYING OF THE UTILITIES OR WHATEVER SHOULD I BELIEVE THAT STAFF HAS ON FILE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED SPEAK, APPEAL IN ORDER TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
WELL, WITH ALL THOSE EASEMENTS, THAT'S NOT A VERY BUILDABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY ANYWAY.
THREE FOOT AND A SIX FOOT FOOT.
OR WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, APPARENTLY THEY KNOW OF ALL THESE P UES AND AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I'M I'M NOT GOING WITH THEY KNOW AND WE'LL APPROVE I 15 AT THREE 15.
I'M NOT OKAY WITH NO, I I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT OKAY WITH THAT.
WELL, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
AND THEY HAD TO GET A PERMIT TO PUT THAT IN AND START WITH, I MEAN YEAH.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, HOW, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THERE? THAT'S THE QUESTION.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT HAS BEEN THERE.
WELL, FARMER, LESS THAN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
A FARMER'S NOT GONNA LET SOMEBODY TEAR CROP UP TO PUT A TRENCH AND PUT UTILITY IN.
WELL, MAYBE THEY WOULD, BUT MY POINT IS, IT'S BEEN THERE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
WE KNOW THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A RECORD OF IT SOMEWHERE IN A DA IN AN ENGINEERING SCHEMATIC, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IN THERE.
WELL, HAS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CITY? I SHOULD ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CITY BEFORE THEY DEVELOP IT.
DID DID THEY AGREE TO COME INTO THE CITY? WAS IT IN YES.
DURANGO, EJ BEFORE DURANGO FARMS AGREED TO COME INTO THE CITY.
AND WHO KNOWS BACK THEN WHAT HAPPENED.
SO I'M LIKE, WHAT? IT'S NOT THE POLICY.
WELL, I, I STILL LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF TRYING TO GET SOMEONE THAT HAS SOME TYPE OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS TO COME AND TALK TO US SURE.
AND I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S THE IDEA.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE DURANGO FARMS DEVELOPER.
SOME OF IT HAS ANY KNOWLEDGE IF CITY STAFF, IF CITY STAFF HAS IT.
EVEN IF IT'S ON LIKE A PREVIOUS SURVEY.
JUST, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.
TON OF GOLD BURIED THERE, RIGHT?
I'M GONNA GO BE DIGGING TONIGHT.
EIGHT THUMB DRIVES FULL OF BITCOIN.
NO, I'M TAKING A LOOK HERE AT OUR PLAT NOTES.
I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE REFERENCING FOR THE PUE, BUT I'M TAKING A LOOK AT OUR REQUIRED PLAT NOTES HERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS A THREE FOOT PUE IS HEREBY DEDICATED ON EACH SIDE OF ALL INTERIOR SIDE LOT LINES FOR UTILITIES OTHER THAN WASTE WATER UTILITIES.
I MEAN, OTHER THAN WATER, SEWER AND STORM SEWER LINES.
SO THAT WOULD, SO WE'RE JUST, THAT WOULD BE A PLATE NOTE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE, OUR PLATE NOTES.
WHY? THAT'S HERE, THAT'S THE $64,000 QUESTION.
WHY DID THEY DO IT LIKE THAT? RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT HOW THE UDC IS WRITTEN.
AND THIS IS A POSITIVE MEMBER.
I, I, I KNOW IT'S NOT HOW THE UDC IS WRITTEN.
AND FOR THEM TO HAVE AN A NONSTANDARD PUE SIZE IS DIFFERENT.
THAT'S ON OUR, UM, C CHECK, LIKE OUR PLAT CHECKLIST.
UH, WHENEVER WE ISSUE COMMENTS, THAT'S THE CHECKLIST WE USE TO REFERENCE.
AND THAT'LL BE LIKE THE PLATE NOTES WE REQUIRE OF THEM.
SO THEY, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD'VE COME FROM.
THERE'S ALREADY A 10 FOOT PUE RUNNING ALONG 1660 ANYWAY.
IS THERE ONE ON 1660? YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T, YEAH, IF YOU LOOK REAL CLOSE RIGHT THERE, YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF WHERE THE CORNER IS, IT SHOWS JUST BELOW THOSE GRID COORDINATES.
THERE'S A 10 FOOT PUE RIGHT THERE THAT RUNS ALL ALONG 1660.
ALONG WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER EASEMENT AND UHHUH
SO IF THERE'S IT'S FULL PUE ALREADY THERE, WHY DID THEY CUT ACROSS? EXACTLY.
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WE'RE SAYING, OH, WE NEED A THREE FOOT PUE BETWEEN LOTS, BUT WE DID AWAY WITH THAT IN THE UDC.SO WHY ARE WE REQUIRING IT ON THIS? IT, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, SENSE TO ME.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ADDED IT BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD 'EM THEY HAD TO ADD IT COULD BE.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? YES.
THEY ADDED IT BECAUSE IT SAYS TO ADD IT.
BUT THEN IT, WELL, BEST CASE THEN, OH, SURVEY WOULD SHOW IT.
BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE.
WELL, BASED ON WHAT MANNY SAID, THOSE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ADDED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO THE STAFF NOTES.
AND, BUT THE QUESTION I'M LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUSLY 20.
UHHUH THAT THERE WAS NO PUE THERE AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING.
SO THERE WASN'T A PUE AND NOW THERE IS YEAH.
'CAUSE STAFF REQUIRED IT BECAUSE STAFF REQUIRED IT.
BUT WHY DID STAFF REQUIREMENT REQUIRE A THREE FOOT WHEN THE UDC DOESN'T HAVE A THREE FOOT? NO, IT'S GOT A FIVE.
BUT YOU SAID THAT ON PLANT NOTES THERE, YOU GUYS, IT REQUIRES THREE FOOT.
THIS IS THAT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE? THE CHECKLIST I WAS GIVEN FOR WHILE REVIEWING PLANS THAT HAS, THAT HAS THAT ON THERE.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WOULD IT BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO WHENEVER I REVIEW ANY PLAT, THAT'S THE CHECKLIST I USE.
SO YOU'RE, I'M JUST TRYING TO YEAH.
SO YOUR CHECKLIST REQUIRES A THREE FOOT, A FIVE FOOT, AND A 10 FOOT.
'CAUSE THE CHECKLIST I THOUGHT REQUIRED A FIVE COMMISSIONER HUDSON ON THE, A 10 FOOT HOLD ON.
ALONG AND ADJACENT TO ALL STREET SIDE PROPERTY LINES, A FIVE FOOT ALONG AND ADJACENT TO ALL STREET SIDE PROPERTY LINES AND A THREE FOOT ON EACH SIDE OF ALL INTERIOR SIDE LOT LINES.
AND THAT'S SIX FEET TOTAL? YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY GET, THAT'S HOW THIS WAS COMING FROM.
THREE FOOT ON EACH SIDE OF THE LOT LINE.
IT DOESN'T, BUT UP AGAINST THE STREET.
I, YEAH, I, I STILL WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THOUGH.
THERE MAY NOT BE ANYTHING IN THERE AT ALL.
THERE WASN'T ANYTHING IN 2021.
I WOULD JUST LIKE CONFIRMATION ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN SO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALK EASEMENT WAS AT THREE FOOT ONE ALONG 1660 UHHUH
THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON FOR A THREE FOOT SIDEWALK IN THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR IN THEIR PUD AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT JUST, YEAH,
IT'LL LAND RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THAT PROPERTY TOO.
'CAUSE SOUTH OF THAT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SIDE WITH NO SIDEWALK.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAFE WALK TO SCHOOLS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, STUFF, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE SOUTH FROM TEA, THEN THEY CROSS 1660 AND THEY'RE ONTO AN EIGHT FOOT OR A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK.
WELL, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ME.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE, BUT YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS TO TH MARCH 3RD.
MOTION PASSES SIX ONE A LITTLE NOTE.
AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MOVE ITEM FIVE IN FRONT OF ITEM 4.3.
SO WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTIONS.
WE'LL MOVE ITEM FIVE UP NEXT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
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EVENING EVERYONE.I KNOW WE'VE NOT MET OTHER THAN THE CHAIR.
I AM THE NEW DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HERE FOR THE CITY OF HUDU.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE MY INTRODUCTIONS.
UM, I HAVE TWO THINGS FOR YOU TONIGHT.
AND, UM, THE REPORT, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW ALL OF YOU BETTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE CHAIR ABOUT WANTING TO MEET WITH HIM.
AND AS SOON AS I SAID ANYTHING TO HIM, MY CALENDAR FILLED UP WALL TO WALL, TO WALL
SO I'M, I WALK FROM MEETING TO MEETINGS, PATRICIA'S OUT THERE LAUGHING 'CAUSE SHE KNOWS SAME THING FOR HER.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LUNCH OR AT SOME POINT IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SHOP AND PHILOSOPHY.
UM, I, MY EMAIL IS ON THE WEBSITE, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT AND, AND MAKE CONTACT.
AND WE'LL SET UP A TIME FOR THAT.
AND ANOTHER REASON THAT I WANT YOU TO REACH OUT IS THE, THE SECOND PART OF MY, UM, MY, MY POINT TONIGHT.
UM, I AM A HUGE, HUGE PROPONENT OF CONTINUING EDUCATION AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE CLASSES AND GO TO SEMINARS.
UM, AND WHEN WE GET THAT OPPORTUNITY, I LIKE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE ARE, UM, IN THE MIDST OF OUR BUDGET SEASON HERE.
AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE CM AND THE CITY MANAGER BOTH.
AND, UM, ASKED THEM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF NOT ONLY MY STAFF ATTENDING THE STATE PLANNING CONFERENCE, BUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE, AND COUNCIL.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO, UM, AS IT IS FOR THE STAFF ITSELF.
SO, UM, I DO NOT NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET YOURSELF IN A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD IMAGINE GOING TO AMARILLO THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, THE CONFERENCES IN TEXAS, ALTHOUGH THE DATES FOR THIS YEAR HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED YET.
UM, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS AROUND THE LAST WEEK IN OCTOBER.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE LIMITED FUNDS.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE EVERY ONE 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ENOUGH MONEY.
WHAT WITH THE, THE DISTANCE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO TRAVEL.
I LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S LIKE 483 MILES OR SOMETHING TO DRIVE FROM HUDU TO AMARILLO.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO CONSIDER A FLIGHT.
I LOOKED AT FLIGHTS, THEY WERE ABOUT $325 PER PERSON ROUND TRIP.
AND THOSE AVAILABLE TICKETS, 'CAUSE I LOOKED IN OCTOBER, THOSE ARE GONNA START TO FILL UP AS ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES IN CENTRAL TEXAS ALL DECIDE TO GET ON THAT TOO.
SO, UM, LONG STORY SHORT, WE HAVE MONEY BUDGETED IN 2026 AND THE LAST WEEK IN OCTOBER IS BUDGET YEAR 2027.
BUT THE, UM, THE SIGNUP AND EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN THIS BUDGET YEAR.
SO, UM, UH, WE'LL BE MAKING RESERVATIONS PROBABLY WHEN THEY OPEN AROUND AUGUST.
SO YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN PUT SOME BUDGET MONEY IN FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE NATIONAL A PA CONFERENCE, WHICH IS IN HOUSTON THIS YEAR.
HOUSTON WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR APRIL OF 2020, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WERE PAYING ATTENTION IN 2020, BUT THE WORLD STOPPED SPINNING FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF MM-HMM
IT WAS HELD VIRTUALLY, BUT IT WAS CANCELED.
SO, UM, THEY'RE GETTING ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE AND ANOTHER SHOT IN IT.
SO IN MORE THAN LIKELY APRIL IS KIND OF THE TIMEFRAME WHEN THEY HOLD THAT IT CAN BE AS LATE AS MAY OR EARLY APRIL.
BUT, UM, APRIL, MAY, 2027, UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND PUT TOGETHER A DELEGATION TO GO TO THAT ONE AS WELL.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GO, I GET A LOT OF UTILITY OUT OF THESE, THESE MEETINGS.
UM, IT'S NOT JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO NETWORK BECAUSE THERE'S A COMPLETE TRACK THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW WHERE YOU JUST GO FROM SESSION TO SESSION AND IT'S CURATED FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSION CHAIR MEMBERS SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE ABSOLUTE MOST OUT OF THE EVENTS.
YOU'RE FREE TO GO TO ANY OF THE SESSIONS THAT HAPPEN TO INTEREST YOU, WHETHER IT BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DARK SKIES OR PARKS OR TRANSPORTATION OR JUST ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE.
BUT IF YOU JUST FOLLOW THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S TRACK THE LOAN, YOU'LL GET A LOT OUT OF IT AS WELL.
SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AGAIN, HOWARD DOT KUNZ@HUTEXAS.GOV IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED TO SEND ME AN EMAIL.
UM, AND, UM, I GUESS WE'LL TALK SOON.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANYTHING YOU WANNA GO OVER? YES, SIR.
UH, YEAH, SO, UM, REGARDING THE A PA CONFERENCE, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ANY, I, I WENT TO THE LAST ONE IN, UH, BRIAN COLLEGE STATION.
I WANTED TO SAY MCALLEN AND I'M LIKE, NO, THAT'S WRONG.
UH, PULLED A LOT OF GOOD STUFF.
UH, COUPLE OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE REPORTS THAT I, AND THE HANDOUTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
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HIGHLY, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT.UM, I KNOW THAT MONEY IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.
UM, IF WE CAN, IF THEY, IF THEY ARE OFFERING ANY SORT OF VIRTUAL OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN A SLIDE PACK MM-HMM
THING, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING MM-HMM
UM, SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.
I KNOW THE COSTS ARE GREATLY REDUCED IF IT'S, UH, VIRTUAL.
BUT THE REGISTRATION IS REDUCED.
BUT SO TOO IS THE TRAVEL AND RIGHT.
THAT'S THE BIG, THAT'S THE BIG SAVINGS THAT, THAT SAVES MONEY.
UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A BIG ONE.
UH, ON THE FIRST ITEM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GETTING TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAD RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM, UH, CITY SECRETARY REGARDING FEBRUARY 28TH, HAVING THE YES.
OUR ANNUAL ALL BOARDS MEETING TYPE THING.
UM, IF YOU CAN ATTEND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
I WILL ABSOLUTELY BE IN ATTENDANCE.
WE SIT DOWN AT A TABLE AND EAT OUR LUNCH.
I WILL BACK UP RICK, WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE CONFERENCE.
I WENT WHEN IT WAS IN GALVESTON.
OH MY GOD, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO.
2023? UH, NO, IT WAS, OH, I WENT TO THAT ONE.
IT WAS LATER, EARLIER THAN THAT.
BUT I WILL, I WILL SAY IF YOU CAN GO, GO IT, YOU WILL LEARN A TON.
UH, IT WAS WELL WORTH THE MONEY.
AND IT'S A, IT'S TYPICALLY A WEDNESDAY NIGHT OR UH, THURSDAY MORNING UNTIL SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY MORNING TYPE THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY OURS MONEY, WASN'T IT, THEY END ON FRIDAYS.
I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON IS THE FIRST SESSION, LIKE AT ONE AND THEN THEY END USUALLY ABOUT FRIDAY AT THREE OR FIVE.
NO, WE, WE HAD SATURDAY ONES UP AT, UH, REALLY? AND ALLEN DID YOU REALLY? YEAH.
I WAS THERE ON SATURDAY AND WE, WE LEFT, I LEFT SATURDAY AFTERNOON.
I LEFT ABOUT, I GUESS I LEFT ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.
JUST STAY UNTIL SATURDAY MORNING.
HOUSTON SUNDAY PROBABLY WOULD BE YOUR BEST.
UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.
YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY 28TH, AS I GET MORE INFORMATION, I'LL PUSH IT OUT TO YOU.
UM, I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THE NATIONAL CHAPTER IS PUSHING THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY KEEPING MOST OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATE CONFERENCES PROBABLY SUPPRESSED UNTIL THAT'S OVER.
TELL ME ABOUT IT WHEN YOU GET BACK.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO THAT ONE NOTICE I GO TO DETROIT A LITTLE, LITTLE COLD STILL IN APRIL, SO YEAH.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE TO COME SOUTH TO GO TO CANADA.
AND IF IT WAS IN CANADA, I WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST ONE IN LINE TO GO.
YOU CAN RIGHT ACROSS THE BRIDGE.
I'LL TELL MY WIFE I'M NOT COMING BACK.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO ANYTHING ELSE, UH, FOR OUR NEW DIRECTOR? WELCOME AWARD.
ALRIGHT, WELL THEN I THINK WE CAN CUT YOU LOOSE AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.3.
UH, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND UPDATING OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROJECTS.
CAN I, YOU SEE THIRSTY? PATRICIA, YOU WANNA COME UP HERE? YES, WE GOT MISS PATRICIA'S.
I KNOW HE'S ALREADY GOT IT WARM FOR ME, SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE A HANDOUT FOR THEM? HAND THAT OUT.
I IN PATRICIA DAVIS BY THE WAY.
SO WE HAD A CANCELLATION OF OUR MEETING, UH, ON THE 20, THE 22ND.
SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DO A, A LIGHTNING ROUND TONIGHT.
SO, UH, WE'RE STILL, UM, REVIEWING AND DEVELOPING A FIVE YEAR CIP AND TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.
WE'RE GONNA REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT FROM THE TEAM FOR THE FIVE YEAR 2026 THROUGH 2030.
WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON PARKS AND JUST GO BACK AND WRAP UP THE TRAILS THAT WERE ADJACENT TO.
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DRAINAGE AND THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.UH, THESE ARE, AGAIN, THEY'RE FOR GROWTH AND SUPPORT OF THE, UH, SAFETY, MOBILITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR, UH, CITIZENS.
AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP HIGH LEVEL IN THE PLANNING FOR TONIGHT.
I'LL TRY TO DO A INTRODUCTION FOR EACH OF THE SECTIONS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND TARGET FOR, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION OF QUESTIONS TO WRAP UP AND, UM, SUMMARIZE, UH, FOR TONIGHT.
SO WE'LL START WITH, UM, PARK CIP WITH THE TRAILS.
I'LL COME UP
DRAINAGE ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR.
WATER, CIP MAYBE 45 TO 50 MINUTES.
AND THEN, UH, SUMMARIZING, HOPING WE CAN GET OUTTA HERE BY 10 45, 11 O'CLOCK
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, IT IS HIGH LEVEL ON TRYING TO STAY FOCUSED.
UM, THESE ARE JUST TIME BLOCKS THAT ARE TARGETED AND, UM, HELP US GET US THROUGH THE PROJECTS TONIGHT AND FOR THE DISCUSSION.
SO LET'S PULL UP THE TRAILS PROJECTS AND THE STREETS FIRST WHILE, AND JUST AN UPDATE.
LAST TIME YOU GUYS ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT, BUT I, WHEN IT'S READY, I'LL SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
DO EXCEL SHEET? YEAH, THE ONE TRAILS.
I'M PULLING IT UP FOR SOME REASON THE SCREEN SHARING IS BEING WEIRD.
WHERE CAN I SEND THE, UH, WERE YOU LOOKING FOR OFF STREET OR ON STREET? IT'S THE ON STREET.
DID YOU PULL THAT FROM THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN? MAP EXHIBIT? NO, THIS IS STRAIGHT OFF THE PARK.
DID YOU HAVE THIS ONE PAGE? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET UP AT THREE O'CLOCK EVERY DAY, YOU GOTTA STAY SHOOK UP.
THIS WHAT? YOU JUST, YOU NEED ME TO PULL THIS UP? YES, PLEASE.
UH, I DO, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LIST.
WELL, THE RE THE REASON I SAY I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO IS THE ON STREET WE, UNLESS, UNLESS I'M MISREMEMBERING THE ON STREET, WE SAID THAT SHOULD BE ROLLED INTO THE STREET IMPROVEMENT AND NOT A SEPARATE PROJECT IN A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO ALL OF THE ON STREET SHOULD BE REMOVED.
AND JUST GONE BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE PART OF THAT STREET WIDENING OR STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
WE DISCUSSED IN DETAIL FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AM AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK? IS THAT YEAH, NO, THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO INITIALLY, SO MAYBE, UM, COMMISSIONER SHERA CAN HAVE THE VISUAL OF WHICH ACTUAL ROADWAYS WE'RE GOING TO TIE EACH ONE WITH.
BASED ON THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.
SO LET'S ASSOCIATE THE TRAILS WITH THE ROADWAY AND THEN WE CAN PRIORITIZE FROM THERE IF DO THOSE FIRST AND THEN GO WITH THE OTHER ROADWAY.
IF WE WANNA MARRY UP THE TRAIL PROJECT WITH THE STREET PROJECT.
I'M
UM, YOU COULD EITHER RANK THE TRANSPORTATION BASED ON THE TRAIL ITSELF OR WE JUST LINK THEM AND THEN WE GO THROUGH AND RANK AFTER THAT.
I, I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER LINK THEM AND THEN GO THROUGH AND RANK RATHER THAN TRYING TO PUT A TRAIL BEFORE A STREET IMPROVEMENT AND JUST MM-HMM
MUCH EASIER TRAIL BEFORE THE ROAD.
MUCH EASIER TO DO IT THOUGH WAY.
DID YOU FIND IT? FIND WHAT? THIS DOCUMENT? IT WAS IN THE PARKS TRAILERS.
SO WE JUST NEED TO, WHAT WAS THAT? I REQUESTED THAT WE PUT IT UP.
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WELL I'MI'M GONNA TURN THIS OFF AND TURN IT BACK ON SO FOR A SECOND.
OH THERE IT, THAT'S WHEN I GO INTO POWERPOINT, BUT AS SOON AS I EXIT POWERPOINT YOU'RE THREE THOSE.
THEY SAID THEY WERE PRETTY GOOD.
I BOUGHT BY, THIS IS MY FAVORITE FAST FOOD PROGRAM.
I USED TO, THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.
WE UP WHERE I WENT TO SCHOOL AT UP IN KANSAS TO HAD A TACO CUT STUDY ON THAT CLASSES AND IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE A TACO BELL BUT IT WAS MORE ALL THE WAY DOWN FAMILY.
SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO IN AND THE WAITRESSES AND ALL THAT.
IT WAS STILL THE SAME TYPE WAS FOR FAST MEXICAN TEX OR THE COLLEGE, WHOEVER.
YES, THEY DO WITH A BUSINESS PLAN OR SOMETHING.
I REMEMBER GODFATHERS WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED
THIS IS, I'M SAYING WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHO'S, WELL LAST YEAR YOUR VISION WAS BIT NO S**T.
LET SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE GUY IS THE CONE OF TACO BELL IS COMPLETED RIGHT? COST? UH, NO, YELLOW IS YELLOW IS COMPLETED.
UH, I THINK PURPLE IS CONTRACTED.
HAS UM, GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO THE CITIES TO, I GUESS I'M STUCK IN THE WAY WE'LL GET A REFRESHER ABOUT NOPE, NOPE.
DAIRY QUEEN IS, I WALKED INTO MCDONALD'S ONE DAY AT LUNCHTIME.
SUMMARY MARIA BOND SALE PRICES PROCESS.
I'M TELLING YOU TACO BELL IS, BUT NOT AT THIS TIME.
YOU WALK IN, SPEND $5 OR $6 AND WALK OUT, WALK OUT WITH A PRETTY GOOD SIZED MEAL.
LIKE I SAID, I WENT TO MCDONALDS AND ORDERED A DOUBLE CHEESE, UH, MEAL AND ENDED UP LIKE $24 WHILE THE TIME 'EM, I GOT DONE.
IN TOWN, I TRAVEL TWICE A DAY, LIKE A DOLLAR TO $2 A THAN ONE BY EACH.
BUT YES, BUY FAR, IT'S WAY MORE EXPENSIVE DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LIKE'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR.
THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, AMY'S ICE CREAM OPENS TOMORROW BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE IS IT THE SLAB? DOES IT HAVE THE SLAB? UH OH NO, THAT'S COLD STONE.
THEY, THEY, SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THEY ON JUST, I, I WENT THROUGH THE ONE IN ROUND ROCK, THEY CUT IT AND THEY'RE GIVING FREE ICE CREAM BY OH, OKAY.
WHO IS THIS? AMY? AND THEY'RE JUST, WHERE'S THAT GONNA BE OUT BY HOOKY? YEAH, THAT'S YOURS.
I DON'T WANT IT IN THAT SAME LIKE BUILDING PAGE 57 BECAUSE THEY HAVE HOOKY, THEY HAVE BITES AND BASIL.
AMY'S AND THEN, UH, PART OF THE POTBELLY OKAY BAGEL.
I HAD THE ONE OF THE RICE DISHES THAT SO GOOD.
HEY, THAT LOOKS FAMILIAR, CORRECT? IS THAT, IS THAT THE ON STREET? YES.
CAN I STEAL MY PAPER BACK THEN? YES.
SO DO WE WANNA PUT UP THE NATIONAL PLAN AT THE SAME TIME TOO? UH, ARIZONA STATE, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT UP AT THE, THE SAME TIME TOOL.
I'VE ALSO GOT IT ON THE SPREADSHEET HERE.
SO I'M GONNA START MATCHING THEIR PROJECT IDS WITH THE MOBILITY.
YOU KNOW, KEY WHATEVER, WHAT TYPE DEGREES
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OR YEAH, KEY TRANSPORTATION.SPECIALIZE IN, UH, ENVIRONMENT HAZARD.
OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT ENGINEERING, UH, A 26 IS THE FIRST ONE.
SO WE'RE START, WE'RE STARTING WITH ON STREET? YES.
NOW A LOT OF OUR MOBILITY PLAN IS TIED BACK TO THE STATE, STATE AND COUNTY.
WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE WANT BUT IN UNLESS STATE AND COUNTY COMING ALONG, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. I MEAN THAT TIME IT WON'T MATTER IF FISCAL SEE POPULATION'S GONNA BE SO 1 0 1 SCH INNOVATION, JUST COMPARING IT TO DOING SOME THE MAP PASS RAIL.
WHICH SEAT DID YOU WANT ME TO PULL UP ON THE MAP? ON THE MONTHLY MASTER PLAN WAS ALSO, HE'S TRYING TO MATCH THE, OKAY, GOT IT.
SO THERE SOME, A 26 IS GOING TO MATCH UP WITH T 37, BUT T WHAT? YEP.
SO LIMMER LOOP CAROL DRIVE TO CITY LIMIT IS GOING TO FALL WITHIN T 37, WHICH IS LIMMER LOOP FROM 1660 TO 1 32.
UH, NEXT I'M GONNA SKIP DOWN TO THE NEXT LIMMER LOOP ONE SINCE I'M ON LIMMER LOOP STUFF.
WE'VE GOT ED SCHMIDT TO COTTONWOOD ELEMENTARY.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE T 48 LIMMER LOOP FROM ED SCHMIDT TO 1660.
SO A 32 TO A 23 IS GOING TO LINK UP TO T 48.
A WHAT? A 23 IS GONNA BE LINKED WITH T 48.
SO T 48, THEY'RE GONNA EXPAND THAT.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY IN, IT'S THE SCHEMATIC IS BEING DEVELOPED INSTEAD OF HAVING IT TWO DIFFERENT, IT'S THE FIRST PAYING FOR IT TWICE PHASE OF A DESIGN FOR MAYBE AN INTERIM IMPROVEMENT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.
SO START BY THAT ONE OF, UH, WE COULD EITHER ADD THE FUNDING TO THAT TRAIL FOR NEXT FISCAL.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, OKAY, GOTCHA.
SO, SO A 23 ISN'T IN SCHEMATIC RIGHT NOW? YES.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER OR ALTER THE SCOPE, ALTER THE CONTRACT, WHATEVER SPREADSHEET, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
BUT I DEFINITELY DO NOT THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER PROJECT ON THAT SAME PIECE OF ROAD HOLD THE TOP BUTTON.
A 25 RIGHT BELOW THAT, THAT ALSO CONNECTS TO T 37.
I CAN'T SPELL MY, HIS T 37 IS LIMMER LOOP FROM 1660 TO 1 32.
SO THAT INCLUDES 1660 TO CAROL.
IS THAT DOING BOTH SIDES? IT TOOK THREE MEETINGS FROM MY, WELL THIS IS THE ROAD MESS IT UP THERE AND THEY MESS IT UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAIL PROJECT INTENDED
I KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT BROKEN UP INTO SECTIONS WELL ON THE TRAILS PART AND WE'RE INTEGRATING THE TRAILS INTO THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
OKAY, SO WHAT WAS THAT ONE? RIGHT? 25.
25 TO WHAT? SO 25 MATCHES UP WITH T 37.
SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE LIMMER LOOP STUFF I THINK
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AS WELL AS 8 26, 26, 23 AND 25.5.'CAUSE THOSE ARE ALL, WHY IS, WHY IS THAT ON THERE? WHICH ONE? 25 5.
OH 'CAUSE IT'S TRAIL, NEVERMIND IT'S, YEAH.
LET'S PUT THAT IN T 37 AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALREADY PARKED THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COMPLETED AT LIMMER AND 1660 NORTH.
WHICH, WHICH ONE IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S GOT RAMPS ON ALL FOUR.
IT'S GOT 80 DA RAMPS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS, ET CETERA BECAUSE THEY'RE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS TRAIL PROJECT NEEDS TO GET SCRAPPED.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ENOUGH TO KNOW.
OR IF WE NEED TO INTEGRATE IT INTO T 37.
I ESTIMATE AND I COULDN'T GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER FROM, I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH, JUST I'M NOT SURE ON THAT ONE.
WOULD THAT BE THE MIDDLE SIDE OF 16? 16 IS THAT THEY'VE GOT THE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THEY GOT THE SIDEWALK ON THE YEAH, THERE'S A SIDE BIT OF A GAP.
I'M JUST NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT 25 FIVE'S SCOPE IS.
I'M JUST GONNA PUT A QUESTION MARK.
WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT 49? 49? THAT'S CR 1 63.
LIKE I SAID, I, I JUST HIT THE LIMMER LOOPS 'CAUSE I WAS ON THE LIMMER LOOP THING.
YEAH, I WAS JUST KICKING ON LIMMER.
UH, A 30 IS EXCHANGE 79 TO LIVE OAK PROJECT THAT'S GOING IN.
SO IS THAT T 15? THAT A 37 WITH TT A 30.
E 15 IS EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AT LIVE OAK.
SO IS THAT, ISN'T THAT THE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT? IS THAT, THAT'S THE ROUNDABOUT.
THEN I'LL LOOK FOR ANOTHER EXCHANGE.
NOPE, THAT'S EXCHANGE IN LIMMER LOOP.
IT IS T 84 AND THAT IS EXCHANGE BOULEVARD FROM US 79 TO LIVE OAK AND FROM LIVE OAK TO HOLLAND.
A 32 EDGE SCHMIDT 79 TO LIMMER EDGE SCHMIDT.
EDGE SCHMIDT WIDENING AND SAFETY S 79 TO LIMMER.
OH THESE ARE SO SMALL SO, OKAY.
HMM? YOU TALKING EMORY CROSSING BELOW, THAT'S ALSO WILCO HIGHWAY.
AFTER WORKING ON THE SIP, I NEED TO DRIVE MORE.
NOW AFTER WORKING ON THE SIP, I NEED TO DRIVE MORE OF THE CITY.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO GO THERE,
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RIGHT? YOU GOTTA GO THERE TO SEE IT.IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO GO DURING THE OFF TIME OF THE DAY.
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OFF TIME IS.
PLAN 30 MINUTES TO GET ACROSS THE CITY.
I THINK THAT TELLING ME IT BILL DUNNO WHAT TIME I'LL SEE 8 45 CONNECTING TO ANYTHING.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT ONE AS IS LITTLE LIGHT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LITTLE LIGHT TO DANA? YEAH.
I JUST, I DON'T SEE ANY ROAD STUFF.
I SEE A 1 37 EXPANSION, BUT NO.
1 38 IN IN 1 38 IN THE COUNTY.
HOW IS IT OUR RIGHT OF WAY? CAN'T BE.
BUT THE SUBDIVISION IS IN THE CITY.
IT'S AN ORPHAN, UH, T 22 INNOVATION TO, UH, FROM SCHNEIDER TO LIMMER.
THAT COULD BE T 22, WHICH IS INNOVATION EXPANSION.
I MEAN THE PROJECTS MATCH UP AND I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER INNOVATION ON HERE.
X 15, THAT'S CR ONE 19 FROM UNIVERSITY TO EMORY CROSSING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A ROAD PROJECT ON THAT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A ROAD PROJECT.
THAT'S FM 1660 FROM BLANCO DRIVE TO CR 1 32.
ONCE AGAIN, I THINK YOU NEED TO DESIGNATE IF THAT'S NORTH OR SOUTH.
ON 1660 BECAUSE THAT FM 1660 BLANCO DRIVE TO COUNTY ROAD 1 32.
THAT'S GONNA BE MAP NORTH BECAUSE 1 32 DOESN'T COME OUT ON 1660 SOUTH.
1 32 COMES OUT AT 79 AND ALSO COMES UP 1660 NORTH.
WHERE'S 1 32 NORTH? WHERE'S BLANCO DRIVE? LIKE THAT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE COUNTY'S TRYING TO REROUTE 1 32.
WELL THEY'RE GOING TO UP NORTH BLANCO.
WHAT? THEY'RE GOING, AREN'T THEY GOING TO, UH, AREN'T THEY COMBINING 1 32 AND 1 33 TOGETHER? YEAH.
UM, CAN WE GO TO THE EAST SIDE UP? NO, YOU UH, BACK TO MAPS.
CAN WE GO TO THE EAST SIDE OF BLANCO DRIVE? SEE WHERE THAT ENDS UP? OKAY.
THERE'S, OKAY, GET THAT ENDS AT BLANCO DRIVE 1 32 AND AT 1660.
SO FROM BLANC BLANCO DRIVE'S NOT VERY LONG AT ALL.
AND BLANCO DRIVE DOESN'T EMPTY OUT ONTO 1660.
THAT'S WHAT WAS THROWING ME OFF.
UH, LET'S JUST ACQUIRE SOME LAND.
IS THAT MUSTANG? NO, IT'S UH, OH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? IS IT THE, UM, YEAH, MUSTANG'S JUST NORTH OF THERE.
SO IT'S THE, IT'S IT'S RIO RIO GRANDE.
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TO RED RIVER, RIO GRANDE, WHATEVER.IT'S UH, UH YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY.
THOSE ARE THE LARGE LOT HOMES.
I COULDN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS TRAIL IS GOING.
SORRY, I WAS GONNA PULL UP THE MAP AND SEE IF THAT GAVE US ANY FURTHER RIVER'S CROSSING.
RIGHT, ITS IT'S RUBBER CROSSING DRIVE IS FROM THAT SUB.
AND IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO 1660.
IT'S A CIRCLE REAL BRAND DOES.
SO WHY IT'S SO WHY A BLANCO HERE IT IS ON A MAP.
YEAH, BUT THE STREET DOESN'T LOOSE ON THERE.
SO A 16 IS OKAY, THAT IS 1 32.
IT'S NOT YEAH, IT'S REAL GRAND.
SO IT GOES UP TO RIO GRANDE AND 1 32.
SO IT'S NOT BLANCO, IT'S RIO GRAND.
AND NOW WE JUST GOTTA FIND 1660 NORTH 1 33 AT CHANDLER.
SO A 16 IS GONNA FALL INTO T 38.
MM-HMM
UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IF THERE IS ANOTHER TRAIL SEGMENT ON 1660, EVEN IF IT WAS THE HIBISCUS AND THEN YOU COULD RIGHT.
NO COME IN HERE THIS WAY ON WILEY.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YES, WE SHOULD EXPAND THIS TRAIL TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY DOWN TO C**K RAIL, NOT TO 1 32.
BUT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN PROJECT T 38.
THE STATE'S GONNA BLOW UP 1660.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT RE BE REDONE OR IS THE STATE GONNA PAY FOR IT? DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, STATE MOVES UP THEIR STALE PACE, THEIR AND THEIR TIMING.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S NO, BUT BEING THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT CITY LIMIT STUFF ON BOTH SIDES.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME COUNTY STUFF ON BOTH SIDES.
BUT BEING THAT WE'VE GOT CITY LIMIT STUFF, I COULD SEE THEM SAYING, YEAH, WE WILL PAY, YOU KNOW, A THIRD OR WHATEVER.
'CAUSE THEY'LL DO FIREFLY 'CAUSE THAT'S COUNTY.
AND THEY'LL PROBABLY DO UH, WHAT IS IT, RIO GRANDE OR RED RIVER.
'CAUSE THAT'S COUNTY AND THEY'LL DO THE LITTLE PINK FARMHOUSE 'CAUSE THAT'S COUNTY.
BUT YOU KNOW, HUDDLE PARK, THAT'S OURS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY TWICE TO HAVE IT DONE.
MY QUESTION, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
NOW YOU'RE SAYING COUNTY ROAD 100, BUT GUS COUNTY ROAD 1 32 100 IS WAY UP NORTH BY THE WATER TOWER.
SO THAT ENTIRE SECTION FROM ER LOOP ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WATER TOWER IS PROJECT T 38.
SO WE WOULD INCLUDE A 16 IN THAT.
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IS CR 1 38.AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY CR 1 38 STUFF.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THESE AS ORPHANS.
THIS IS BETTER THAN ONE X 97 X 96 AND X 97.
I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THOSE AS ORPHANS 'CAUSE YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROAD PROJECTS OUT THERE.
RIGHT? SAID FOR THE REMAINING ONES.
YOU SAID FOR THE REMAINING PROJECTS ON THIS LIST? NO, NO.
I THINK HAVE TO BE ORPHANS 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROAD PROJECTS ON CR 1 38.
A 49 CR 1 63 LIMMER LOOP TO BRUSHY CREEK FOR THE LIFE OF ME.
I THOUGHT 1 63 WAS LIMMER LOOP.
SO THE BOOK STOPS WITH YOU? YEAH.
IS THAT IT? JUST THIS, WHAT? THAT SEEMS NOT RIGHT.
WELL, WELL IT'S, IT'S FROM LIMMER LOOP TO BRUSHY CREEK.
SO THAT'S, I I IT'S GOTTA BE A NORTH SOUTH.
I CAN'T PICTURE THAT TOUCHING, TOUCHING LIMMER LOOP, BUT I CAN'T PICTURE THAT ROAD AT ALL.
IT'S JUST, UH, EAST OF ADAM MARCA.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR LIER LOOP.
SO WHERE'S 1 63? TRYING TO GO THIS TRAIL? GO BACK TO THE MAPS.
'CAUSE IT'S ONLY SIX 10, NOT SIX TENTHS.
WHAT? YEAH, WHERE ARE WE KEEP GOING IS AT THE IT CENTRAL BECHER CREEK CENTRAL.
A 49 IS, YEAH, IT'S IT'S UNDER PRESSURE CREEK CENTRAL, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.
WELL WHERE, WHERE? WELL IT'S ALSO ON, THAT'S ALSO ON WHICH ONE? THAT'S BY BROOKLYNS CENTRAL CREEK.
OH NO, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OFF TO THE 37 VERY FAR.
RIGHT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE WHAT THAT CURRENT GRAVEL ROAD IS, I BELIEVE.
AND SO THEY'RE BANKING ON THE BRUSHY CREEK EXPANDING.
BUT IT CAN'T GO TO, I MEAN THIS IS 0.06 MILES.
THAT'S LIKE 300 FEET IN THE NARROWS APARTMENTS RIGHT THERE.
UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE? NO OTHER SIDE SIDE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 49, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT EDGE.
THAT WELL, THAT'S THE BROOKLYNS THERE.
THAT'S THE BACKSIDE OF THE BROOKLYNS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT IT CAN'T BE THAT A 49 CANNOT BE THAT, THAT IS WAY MORE THAN 300 FEET.
SO SOMETHING ABOUT A 49 PROJECT IS WRONG.
EITHER THE SIZE OF IT, THE LOCATION OF IT.
THERE'S, THIS ONE'S JUST JACKED UP.
WELL, SORRY, I'M WHAT'S THAT OTHER DOT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THERE? JUST ABOVE WHERE IT SAYS A 49.
UH, IF YOU GO DOWN AND SAY, WAS THERE ANOTHER PAGE THAT SHOWS THAT, THAT MAYBE IT HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR A CERTAIN SECTION? THERE IT IS.
SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER NUMBER.
YEAH, THAT'S THE ROAD THAT COMES OFF OF 1660 SOUTH.
THE DOTS REPRESENT NEIGHBORHOOD CROSSINGS.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST A GRAVEL ROAD RIGHT THERE.
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A GRAVEL ROAD.THIS, THIS ONE CAN'T BE RIGHT.
SO 8 49, WE'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH PARTS.
I MEAN THE, THE ORANGE LINE MIGHT BE CORRECT, BUT WHAT THEY HAVE LISTED ON HERE IS NOT 'CAUSE IT'S LIMMER LOOP TO BRUSHY CREEK.
NO, THAT'S, DO THEY MEAN 1660 SOUTH TO BRUSHY CREEK, SAME THING, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WAY MORE THAN 300 FEET.
SO THEIR COST ESTIMATE OF 210,000 IS OUT THE WINDOW AS WELL.
SO LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON TRANSPORTATION FOR 1 63.
I DON'T BELIEVE I SAW ANYTHING, BUT LEMME DOUBLE CHECK.
NOPE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON TRANSPORTATION.
SO A 49, I'M GONNA PUT A BIG OLD QUESTION MARK NEXT TO YEAH.
'CAUSE THAT'S MORE THAN 300 FEET, THAT'S FOR SURE.
A 51 FM 1660 GRISHAM TO AUSTIN.
THAT'S GOTTA BE RIGHT UP CLOSE TO 79.
UM, FROM FRONT TO CARL STERN, THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS IT, WOULDN'T IT? UH, WHAT'S, WHERE, WHERE DOES IT, UH, GO TO AGAIN? GRISHAM OF WHAT? A 51 SHOULD BE, PROBABLY A PAGE OR TWO UP ON THIS.
THAT'S F THAT SHOULD BE FM 1660 SOUTH, SOUTH.
GRISHAM DRIVE TO AUSTIN AVENUE.
IT IT'S JUST SOUTH OF 79, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S THE GAS STATION TO RIGHT.
SO T 40 IS FROM SIX IS 16TH 60 SOUTH FROM FRONT TO CARL STERN.
A 51 GOES INTO WHAT? T 40, T 40 ROAD PROJECT.
SEE IT LINE 1 43 ON THE RIGHT? YEAH.
NEXT IS T 21, WHICH DOES NOT MATCH T 21 ON ROADS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR HAY BARN.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR HAYBURN.
SO FOR THE, HMM, FOR THE TRAILS THAT ARE IN THE ETJ, UM, PARKS, COULD LOOK AT THOSE FOR ANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE ETJ AND TIE THOSE WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND CURRENTLY LIMMER SQUARE IS GOING IN THERE.
SO THAT SHOULD BE PUT INTO THE DA OR OKAY.
AND THAT'S, UH, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A NOTE HERE THAT, THAT THEIR PROJECT T 21 IS PART OF LIMMER SQUARE, OR AT LEAST IT APPEARS TO BE PART OF LIMMER SQUARE.
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ALL RIGHT.SO I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF THE ON STREETS.
WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4 ORPHANS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ON CITY ROADS.
WHAT WERE THE OTHER? I HAD 96 AND 97 WERE THE OTHER TWO? YEAH.
THEY'VE GOTTA BE DOWN SOUTH ALONG 1 38.
YOU SAID YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT T 21? UH, NO, X 96 AND X 97.
UH, WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? UH, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOUTHWEST CORNER.
WHAT WAS NINE SIX? THERE WE GO.
THERE'S X 93 IN THE LOWER RIGHT.
WE'RE BACK WHERE WE WERE EARLIER.
UH, IT SAYS, UH, X 96 IS DANA DRIVE TO EAST WILCO HIGHWAY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1 38, RIGHT? YES.
WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT TRAIL ON THE MASTER TRAILS PLAN? NOPE.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE COVER THAT.
I MEAN, THE CLOSEST ONE WE ALREADY LOOKED AT.
I, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE CLOSEST ONE.
THIS LITTLE, THIS IS A LITTLE LAKE HERE WHERE MY MOUTH IS THIS DOWN.
YOU NEED TO GO DOWN FURTHER, BUT THEN BOOM.
YEAH, BUT IT'S, I NEED TO BE OVER HERE.
IT'S GOT, YEAH, IT'S GOT THAT CHOPPED OFF.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY ORPHANS.
AND WHERE ARE THE OTHER TWO? UH, A 45 IS THAT SAME AREA.
AND THEN X 96 IS DANA TO EAST WILCO.
AND X 97 IS LITTLE LAKE TO 6 85.
SO ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE CONNECTED.
AND THEN X 15 ALSO DIDN'T HAVE A PARTNER.
AND X 15 IS JUST WAY UP NORTH WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROADS.
WHICH IS ALSO NOT SHOWN HERE ON THESE, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE OFF OF, UH, EDGE SCHMIDT, NORTH OF LIMMER, NORTH OF EMERY CROSSING, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THOSE BEING ORPHANS BECAUSE, SO YEAH.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
I MEAN, IT SAYS RIGHT AWAY, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT, UH, THAT'S NOT OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
SO, UH, DO WE WANNA MATCH? NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA MATCH UP ANYTHING ON THE OFF STREET.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO COVER ON THE ON STREET? THAT'S ALL WE WERE DOING.
UH, WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? YOU'VE GOT THE SCHEDULE
WE, WE DID IT AND WE GOT 10 MINUTES TO SPARE ON THAT ONE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO, UH, NOW, WELL, LET ME CLARIFY.
REMEMBER WITH THE A DA TRANSITION PLAN, AND WE CAN DO THAT ONE SEPARATE AFTER STREETS, THE A DA TRANSITION PLAN.
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UM, AS PART OF THE, UM, JANUARY 22ND CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE HAD THE CONSULTANT THAT PRESENTED ON THE A DA TRANSITION PLAN.BUT IT WAS STREETS, IT WAS, UH, STREETS, MAINTENANCE TRAILS.
UM, AND WE CAN DO THAT AFTER WE DO THE STREETS.
'CAUSE THEN THAT WAS COMPONENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE STREETS PROJECTS.
WE'RE GOING TO BY MANDATE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM A DA COMPLIANT, ANY OF THEIR ACCESS POINTS.
SO YEAH, I, WE CAN MOVE TO THE STREET.
AND NOW LET'S PRIORITIZE THE CAPITAL PROJECT.
SO REMEMBER, YELLOW IS ALREADY EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR DESIGN IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS.
WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING T ZERO ONE.
SO IS, AND THIS KIND OF CAME UP ON THE JANUARY 22ND COUNCIL, ARE WE DOING SIDEWALK, IS THAT SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, THE 550,000? IS THAT PART OF THE A DA COMPLIANCE OR ARE THEY TWO SEPARATE BUDGET LINES? ONE IS SIDEWALK AND ONE IS A DA COMPLIANCE.
SO CURRENTLY THE, THE FUNDING IN THAT TO ONE ANNUALLY IS REPRESENTED FOR, UM, UH, PROBABLY FILLING GAPS OF INSTALLING NEW SIDEWALK.
AND IT'S NOT MAINTENANCE DOLLARS.
AND STREETS CREWS HAVE A SEPARATE RIGHT.
A PART OF THEIR DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE.
BUT IF, IF WE'RE BRINGING BUT LET, YES.
SO THAT'S THE DECISION IS, UM, SO THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR 26, UM, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WE WERE, AND OUR PLANS, WE'VE HAD SOME KIND OF STAFF CHANGES.
SO OUR PLAN WAS TO DO INSTALLATION OF A FIELD INSTALLED FOR NEW SIDEWALKS ALONG EDGE SCHMIDT IS TO, UH, TAKE A SET OF, UH, SOME STANDARDS AND, AND DETAILS AND HAVE A CONTRACTOR TO BUILD THEM IN THE FIELD AND NOT HAVE A SET OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THEN GO CONSTRUCT THEM TO TRY TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
SO WE STILL, UH, HAVE THAT INTENTION FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THE, THE COMMISSION CAN KIND OF MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WE CAN REALLOCATE THE FUNDING TOWARD THE A DA COMPONENT.
BUT I, I WOULD SAY MAYBE WE LEAVE THAT AS A SEPARATE TOPIC FOR JUST THAT ONE ITEM.
WELL, THE, THE REASON I ASKED IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A DA COMPLIANCE WITH SIDEWALKS MM-HMM
AND TO ME THAT IS A RETROFIT, THAT'S A MAINTENANCE TYPE THING.
WHEREAS WE, AND WE CAN'T USE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR MAINTENANCE.
THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS PUT ON THE CIP YEARS AGO FOR THE LAKESIDE STATES SIDEWALKS THAT WERE PROMISED 17 YEARS AGO AND WERE NEVER PUT IN.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THERE, AND AS A RESULT, THE PROJECT HAS STALLED.
BUT LAST, LAST YEAR, WE SAID LET'S KEEP FUNDING IT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY THAT NEED SIDEWALKS.
SO I'M, I'M, THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.
I'M JUST KIND OF REEMPHASIZING AND TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS ON THIS ONE.
DO WE NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS A SEPARATE BUDGET LINE ITEM.
THIS IS NOT MAKING THINGS A ADA A COMPLIANT.
THIS IS PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE ARE NONE.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY DID TALK ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ITEM FOR THIS AMOUNT BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
'CAUSE THERE, THERE WAS, THERE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AT COUNCIL.
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MAINTENANCE? IS THIS FOR NEW SIDEWALKS? WELL, AND I THINK AND THEY HAD A MOTION FOR THE EXACT AMOUNT TOO, I BELIEVE.AND SO I, I THINK, 'CAUSE ME AND YOU LEFT THINKING, WERE THEY THINKING OF ONLY A 500,000 RIGHT.
OR ARE THEY THINKING OF AN ADDITIONAL 500,000? RIGHT.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO COUNCIL, HERE'S 500,000, 550,000 FOR NEW SIDEWALKS AND HERE'S 500,000 FOR THE NEVER ENDING PROJECT OF GETTING EVERYTHING IN THE CITY ADA A COMPLIANT.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED CLEARLY.
COULD BE, CAN YOU CLICK ON IT? BUT THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
EARLIER, COUNCIL DIDN'T, UH, REQUEST THE DEVELOPER TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN.
WELL, IT WAS ORIGINALLY LAKESIDE ESTATES WAS NOT PART OF THE CITY.
IT WAS NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
THEREFORE, IT DIDN'T FALL UNDER THE CITY REGULATIONS.
AND THEY WERE PROMISED A SIDEWALK.
AND THAT PROMISE WAS NEVER DELIVERED UNTIL THREE YEARS AGO WHEN IT FINALLY STARTED.
I JUST DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER IF THEIR FOCUS WAS ON NEW.
AND THAT COULD BE WHAT THEY USE, LIKE NEW SIDEWALKS THAT ARE A DA COMPLIANT.
WELL, I THINK IF WE SPLIT IT OUT, IT MAY ACTUALLY HELP SPEED THE TIMELINE ON A DA COMPLIANCE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT PUTTING DOWN FRESH CONCRETE FOR A SIDEWALK WHERE THERE WASN'T ONE.
NOW THEY'RE JUST FIXING WHERE THIS IS A CURB STEP INSTEAD OF A RAMP.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE RETROFITTING.
LIKE I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT DISCUSSION WAS.
WE DO THE NEW ONES WE FOCUS ON WITH THE 500,000 TO MEET THE SUFFICE THE, UH, PE I DON'T KNOW THE REQUIREMENT.
U USING THE 550,000 FOR THE, TO MAKE THEM A DA COMPLIANT IN OR AT LEAST SHOW PROGRESS.
WELL, IN MY OPINION, AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT IN MY OPINION, THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS RIPPING OUT AN EXISTING SIDEWALK AND PUTTING A RETROFIT IN.
WHICH IS A BIG NO-NO ON CIPI THINK THAT ONE NEEDS JUST, WE NEED TO GET CLEAR ALIGNMENT ON THAT.
SO LET'S, LET'S KEEP, UH, T ZERO ONE AS IS.
THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY IN MY BOOK.
I FORGET WHAT THE COLOR CODES MEAN.
THE PURPLE ONES WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE'VE EITHER PAID OR IT'S IN CLOSEOUT.
AND JUST PAYING THE CONTRACTOR YELLOW IS, UM, DESIGN AND OR BIDDING TOWARD CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN PURPLE YELLOW IS DESIGN.
I DID, WE DID PURPLE AND BLUE.
BLUE, UH, HAS DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION.
BUT THEY'RE NOT BUILDING ANYMORE IN LAKE SIDE OF STATES DEV PARK.
NOW CAN WE HAVE A BUILDER? ARE THEY YEAH.
I'M, I'M, SO WHAT, UH, AND THEN LIKE, THERE'S A TAN COLOR, BUT THOSE ARE DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS, WHY IS T SIX AND T ONE SEPARATED OUT? WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO GO, IS I THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE OUT T SIX.
SO THEY'RE JUST TAKING FROM T SIX AND PUTTING IT IN T ONE.
WELL, SOMETIMES THE DEVELOPER WOULD PUT MONEY, UM, HELP FUND PART OF THE SIDEWALK RIGHT ALONG THE CITY.
SO ON T 6 0 6, UH, THE TOTAL PRICE TAG ON IT WAS OKAY.
A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION IN 25 FY 25.
THEY HAD A $67,000 CONTRIBUTION AND NO CONTRIBUTIONS IN ANY YEAR AFTER THAT.
SO I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT T OH SIX IS DONE RIGHT.
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PURPLE RATHER THAN BLUE.SO THEY'RE USING COMMUNITY T OH ONE KEEPS GOING.
THEY'RE USING COMMUNITY BENEFIT FUNDS FOR THIS.
I GUESS I'D, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE A 17-YEAR-OLD COMMUNITY.
WHERE'S THE DEVELOPER FUNDING
AND WE CAN HAVE THE, THE FINANCE, UM, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE SECTIONS TONIGHT.
FINANCE WHEN THEY COME NEXT WEEK, CAN CLARIFY ON THAT.
SO, UH, YEAH, LIKE TO TWO IS GONE.
IT'S OFF THE CIP LIST, CORRECT.
UH, TO THREE SHOULD BE DROPPING OFF.
UH, TO FOUR, WELL, NO, 1660 SOUTH AT 79 IS STILL UNDER DESIGN.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S TO FOUR TO THREE IS COMPLETE.
TO THREE SHOULD BE DROPPING OFF.
I, I WOULD SAY NO CHANGES TO OH FOUR OR OH FIVE.
WELL, T OH FIVE IS ACTUALLY OUT FORBID, WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT ONE WILL START CONSTRUCTION APRIL OR MAY OF THIS YEAR.
UM, OH SIX, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT OH 7 1 32 OVERPASS.
WHO KNOWS HOW LONG, UM, IS THAT STILL GONNA BE AN OVERPASS? T OH SEVEN? YEAH.
WE HAVE, UM, REQUESTED TO CANCEL THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH TDOT FOR THAT ONE.
SO PROBABLY THE FUNDING'S BEEN REALLOCATED TO OTHER TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
IF, IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF T OH SEVEN TO MAKE IT CR 1 32 SLASH US 79 INTERSECTION, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
IF THE OVERPASS PART IS SCARY TO SOME PEOPLE MM-HMM
PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WEREN'T, WE TOLD THAT TDOT DIDN'T WANNA OVERPASS THERE NO.
MIDWAY DIDN'T WANT AN OVERPASS.
SO WE DEALING WITH SO MANY PAIN.
UN UNTIL, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE UNTIL KIND OF PULL OUR HEAD OUT HERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT ON THERE.
WELL 'CAUSE IF OVERPASS IS SCARY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT CAN WE CAN TAKE IT OFF OR WE CAN'T PUT IT BACK ON THE CIP IF WE DO, IF WE TAKE IT OFF.
I THOUGHT IT WAS ALSO A WIDENING OF THAT INTERSECTION FOR OH YEAH.
IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
DID YOU, I MEAN, 1 32 AND 79, I GO THROUGH THERE A LOT.
IT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WORK.
AND WHETHER IT'S AN OVERPASS OR AN AT GRADE INTERSECTION, THAT'S THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
THE LONGEST IN CONSTRUCTION INTERSECTION.
EXCEPT IT'S NOT IN CONSTRUCTION.
IN DESIGN, IT KEEPS GETTING PUNTED.
WE NEED TO KEEP, SO ARE YOU ALL WANTING TO REQUEST SOME FUNDING? GO BACK TO THAT PROJECT IN A PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR? SO, UM, CAN YOU MOVE, CAN YOU MOVE THIS SPREADSHEET OVER AND REMOVE THAT RED YEAH, RED STUFF.
WHAT? SO WE PUT IT IN DESIGN SO MANY TIMES MONEY.
AND IT'S ONLY BEEN IN A PRELIMINARY, HAD THE ACTUAL RIGHT.
WELL, WE PASSED THE PHONE IN 20 MOST EXPENSIVE NON YES, EXACTLY.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH TO SEVEN? YEAH.
WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH T OH SEVEN? T WHAT? T OH SEVEN OVERPASS.
WELL, SINCE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE OVERPASS, WE GOTTA LEAVE IT.
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SHOULD MAKE IT A ROAD WIDENING SLASH INTERSECTION WITH LIGHTS OR SOMETHING.IT'S GOTTA BE SAFER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
DO WE WANT TO RENAME IT? FIRST OF ALL, CR 1 32 AND US 79.
THAT WAY IF THEY DECIDE TO PUT AN OVERPASS IN OR AN UNDERPASS OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, THEY'RE NOT AFRAID OF PUT HIGHWAY 79, TAKE OUT OVERPASS.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THIS GONNA BE AN OVERPASS ANYTIME SOON.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DELAY.
SO, SO THE NEXT QUESTION THEN IS DO WE WANT, DO WE WANT TO PUT ANYTHING IN FY 27 TO GET THIS BALL ROLLING? 27 MAYBE TOO SOON? I THINK WE SHOULD 27 SOON.
WE'RE GROWING AND YEAH, IT, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA, I DON'T DISAGREE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS 122 TALKING.
YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS WAS.
I JUST LOOKED UP WHERE IT IS AND I DIDN'T KNOW THE ONE 30.
THAT IS A TERRIBLE, THAT IS A TERRIBLE SPOT TO, IT'S ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IN NURSING TOO.
IT'S BECAUSE CON THERE'S COTTONWOOD DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.
IF YOU TRY TO ACCELERATE FROM THERE, BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING.
UHHUH, IT'S GRAVEL AND KIND OF DIRT.
TRY TRY TO ACCELERATE ON THAT AND HAVE CARS COME.
SO IN 2027, NOW HERE'S, HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
THAT $122,118,390 FOR PROJECT COST, TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COST.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT CAME FROM BECAUSE AS ADVERTISED IN 2018, IT WAS 31 MILLION IN 2025.
IT'S PROBABLY FOR AN OVERPASS.
SO REMEMBER THAT CAME FROM THE, UM, COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, WHICH WAS MIDWAY.
AND THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT GARVER TO REANALYZE WITH ALL THE COORDINATION REQUIRED WITH UPRR.
AND AS PART OF THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, REMEMBER WE HAD TO GO BACK AND REDETERMINE THOSE IMPACT FEES BASED ON THE HIGHER COST OF THE 122 MILLION.
SO DESIGN IS TYPICALLY 10% OF ESTIMATED PROJECT COST.
SO THAT MEANS WE WOULD BE PUTTING 12.2 MILLION IN 2027.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK AS A ACTUAL DESIGN? UM, IT, IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED WHAT THE INTERSECTION, SO WE REALLY WOULD BE ASKING FOR ANOTHER CONFIRMATION OF A PRELIMINARY STUDY OR COUNCIL DIRECTION OF WHAT DESIGN THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
IN ORDER TO MOVE AND MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
IF WE NEED TO HOOK 'EM UP TO SHOCK COLLARS TO GET AN ACTUAL DECISION, THEN SO BE IT.
MAKE THEM, MAKE THEM MAKE, IT'S GONNA BRUTAL.
SO WITH THE EDC, IF THEY, UM, I GUESS IN TALKING WITH MATT RECTOR, THE, UH, EDC WAS STILL GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING THAT PARCEL AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER MM-HMM
UM, AND THEY WERE GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WERE WE REQUIRING THEM TO INCORPORATE THE FULL INTERSECTION SOUTH AT, OF 79 WITH COUNTER AT 1 32? I THINK THEY WERE FOCUSING ON NORTH AND PUTTING A LIGHT THERE TOO.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AN OVERPASS.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AT GRADE, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT JUG HANDLES.
THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BATTERED AROUND HALF A DIFF, HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT DESIGN IDEAS FOR THIS THING OVER, BUT I THINK OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS AND THEY NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE HOW THAT INTERSECTION IS, AND IT GOES UP LIKE THAT, IT WAS REAL TOUGH FOR THEM TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHEN THEY GO UPGRADE AND TRYING TO WORK WITH UNION PACIFIC.
THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH THAT, SO.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, SO THAT WAS, I REMEMBER THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS MM-HMM
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IF WE PUT IT AT 27, THEN WHEN I, WHEN I GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL END OF THIS MONTH AND SAY THE 19TH, THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SHEET ON THIS.
OH, I'M ON, I'M ON IT A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH ON THAT.
SO ARE WE LOOKING AT 27 DROPPING 12.2? YES.
MILLION INTO 20 INTO 27, 12 0.2.
AND THEN THE REST, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A PRETTY BIG PROJECT.
DO WE WANT TO DO IT 29? AND WILL THEY DO IT 27? IT'LL TAKE 'EM ONE A YEAR TO DO THAT.
WHY CAN'T WE GET THE COUNTY AND GIVE SOME FISCAL, THAT SHIP HAS SAILED.
WE, WE TRIED, WE, UH, KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TOO MUCH AND NOW THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE.
I WAS GONNA SAY, WHY CAN'T WE GET THE COUNTY TO GIVE US SOME CASH? THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT AND NOW THEY'RE NOT ANYMORE.
WHO DO WE P**S OFF? WHO DO WE GOTTA GO KISS TAYLOR? I DON'T KNOW YET.
SO DO YOU WANNA RENAME IT CR 31, 32 AND 70 US 79 AND TAKE THE WORD OVERPASS OR TAKE ALL THAT OFF? YEP.
KNOWING AGAIN, MY GO LOWER SAFETY KNOWING IT'S OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE COVERED.
IT'S, YEAH, IT MIGHT GO LOWER.
AND THEN IN 29 PUT THE 112 OR 110 TH MILLION WHATEVER LEFT OVER IN 29.
IT MAY NOT COST THAT MUCH MONEY.
BUT DIDN'T THEY DESIGN THE
AND THEN THEY HAD TO MOVE IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T LINE UP THE WAY UPRR WANTED IT.
AND THEN THEY HAD TO GO AND, AND ADD IN A JUG HANDLE AND THEN THEY HAD TO GO AND DO THIS, AND THEN THEY HAD TO CHANGE IT OVER TO AT GRADE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN HALF A DOZEN DESIGNS OF THIS.
I KNOW THEY'VE DONE THAT AND FIGURE IT OUT AND DO IT.
SINCE WE'RE CROSSING THE STATE ROAD.
WOULD THE STATE GIVE US ANY MONIES FOR THIS TO MAKE IT SAFER? UH, I BELIEVE THE STATE WAS CONTRIBUTING, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH.
AND UPRR PROBABLY NOT CONTRIBUTING? NO, THEY'RE THE, YOU KNOW, THE GORILLA, THE ONLY THING THEY'LL CONTRIBUTE IS PROBLEMS. PROBABLY.
SO MOVING ON FROM T OH SEVEN THEN.
WELL, I, SO, SO WE GOT T OH SEVEN STRAIGHTENED OUT 10.
I THINK SHE HAVE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT ON THE UPCOMING FEBRUARY 19TH IS THE AGENDA ITEM TO REQUEST THE AMENDMENT OF THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH T.TO COUNSEL.
THAT AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTER ROAD 1 32 AT US 79 OVERPASS.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TERMINATING REMEMBER BECAUSE WE TOUCH 79, WE HAD THE, THAT ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT.
IF WE SAY THAT WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING IN 2027, THE DESIGNER WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AN AGREEMENT AGAIN.
AND THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE WAS TIED TO MIDWAYS, RIGHT? AT GRADE CROSSING? YES.
SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING WITH THAT ONE, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT GOES AWAY AS WELL.
THE STUDY'S STILL GONNA BE CURRENT IF WE'VE ALREADY DONE A STUDY.
IS IT STILL GONNA BE CURRENT TIME? 29 COMES AROUND? ARE WE STILL GONNA BE THAT'S, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN AND A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND, UH, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW STUDY AND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE STUFF THAT THEY DO ON S 79 TO FIGURE OUT LIGHT TIMINGS AND, AND CONGESTION AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
I'M HOPING THAT THEY DO THE SAME THING AS PART OF A $12 MILLION DESIGN.
LET'S BUILD AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, BUT WE'RE GOING SET THE MONEY FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE GET THERE.
SO I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF OH SEVEN.
WE GOT THE NUMBERS FOR 27 AND 29.
RIGHT? SO 12.2 AND 27 AND THE REST IN 29.
AND MAYBE THAT GETS SPREAD OUT.
WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT WITH FINANCING.
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ONE'S DONE T OH NINE LIVE OAK RECONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY.I'VE GOT THAT AT 10000009.6 WAS IN 26.
THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR POUND SIGNS THERE.
SO THAT PROJECT HAS THE COMBINATION.
WE STILL HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN ORDER FOR THOSE UTILITIES TO BE RELOCATED.
SO THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS NOT BEEN ACQUIRED JUST YET NOR STARTED.
SO THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS PERFORMING THE DESIGN, WE HAVE SAID GOODBYE TO THEM
WE, AND WE WILL, IF, IF WE SHOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, SHOW THIS PROJECT ON 27, THEN WE CAN, WE'LL NEED TO ADD SOME MONEY FOR THE DESIGN TO BE COMPLETED AND FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S PUT 1 MILLION IN 27.
THAT'LL COVER THE 10% DESIGN AND THEN THE 8.6 MILLION REMAINING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, IT WON'T BE DONE NEXT YEAR.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK WE CAN, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT COST IS THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN PART OF THIS.
SO THAT $1 MILLION WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE COMPLETE THE DESIGN AND DO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
THE UTILITIES WILL BE RELOCATED AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, T 10 IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
CAN YOU GO BACK OVER, GO BACK OVER PLEASE.
THE ONE RIGHT BELOW IT, T 10 ETCH MUTUAL MEANT SIDEWALKS.
THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY CHURCH.
AND IT HAS A TWO PHASE COMPONENT.
SO THERE IS, THERE'S SIDEWALKS GOING IN FROM 79 JUST NORTH AND THERE'S ALSO INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT SCHMIDT.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ON THAT ONE IS IT'S GOT A 3.7 PROJECTED CO 3.7 MILLION PROJECTED COST.
UH, 2.2 WAS SPENT ACCORDING TO THIS, IN 25.
AND THE REMAINING 1.4 WOULD BE 26.
I DON'T THINK WE HIT THOSE NUMBERS THOSE YEARS.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY 26, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TOTALLY FUNDED IN 26.
SO THAT PROJECT DID GET AWARDED.
WE DID GO OVER A LITTLE, SO, OKAY.
UM, THE, THE FUNDING, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED THIS SPRING.
THEN WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS TELL ME IF YOU DON'T, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FY 2025 FOR THAT PROJECT BLANK.
SINCE WE DID NOT SPEND 20, $25 AND PUT THE 3.7 IN FY 26 SINCE WE DID FUND IT THEN.
AND WE'LL GET, SO DESIGN DOLLARS WERE SPENT IN 25.
BUT IT WASN'T 2 MILLION IN DESIGN.
SO WE CAN, WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE FINANCE UPDATE THAT WITH THE ACTUAL YEAH.
IF YOU WANT TO PUT, YEAH, IF YOU WANNA PUT A PLACEHOLDER OF 370,000 IN THERE, THAT'S FINE.
AND THEN YOU WANNA MOVE REST 2026.
SO 370,000, WHICH WOULD MEAN 3.34 GOES IN 26.
UH, EMORY FARMS ARCH, THAT'S COMPLETE.
UH, T 13 TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT INNOVATION AND LIMMER NOT COMPLETE
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YES.EVERY CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE STRUGGLES.
ALL, UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE ITS BIRTHDAY, SO YEAH.
CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO YELLOW INSTEAD OF PURPLE? T 13? IT'S INNOVATION AND LIME.
YOU WANNA CHANGE? IT AIN'T DONE.
I DON'T SEE A BLINKING LIGHT YET.
WHAT ARE THEY JUST HAVING TROUBLE WITH? THEY'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE THE LIGHT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE LIGHT DOESN'T WORK WORK.
LA LAST WEEK THEY WERE HANGING THE STREET SIGNS ON THE ARMS. THERE'S ALWAYS, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING STUFF.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING, UH, THIS MORNING WHEN I DROVE BY, THEY WERE DOING ELECTRICAL.
WAS IT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION BY END OF THE YEAR? UH UH, THEY'VE COMPLETELY BLOWN THEIR SCHEDULE OUT OF THE WATER.
AND TOLD THAT'S NOT UNDERST, BUT WHAT'S A COMPLETION DATE? NOT TELL.
BUT WE'VE PAID, WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
THEN THERE WAS A DELAY COMPLETION DATE THERE.
WE PASSED THE COMPLETION DATE.
THEY WERE THE INITIAL, THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BEFORE SCHOOL IN AUGUST.
THEN IT WENT TO OCTOBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY.
SO T 13, LET'S CHANGE IT TO YELLOW AND LET'S NOT ADJUST ANY OF THE NUMBERS.
'CAUSE WE'VE PAID, WE'RE NOT PAYING ANY MORE MONEY TO THESE GUYS.
COUNSEL HAD NOTHING TO DO ABOUT, CORRECT.
ALL T 15 EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AT LIVE OAK RECONSTRUCTION FOR SOME REASON THAT GOT REDLINED OR TANNED, OR I GUESS IT'S TAN.
WHAT IS THAT? SO THAT PROJECT, UH, ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AS EXCHANGE BOULEVARD RECONSTRUCTION FROM 79 TO, UH, TWO LIVE OAK.
NO, IT WAS A STREET FURTHER NORTH.
AND COUNCIL, UH, RE RE-DEFINED THE SCOPE AND ONLY WANTED THE INTERSECTION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS SWITCHED AND CONVERTED TO EXCHANGE AT LIVE OAK.
AND AS WE WERE COORDINATING WITH THE, UH, USPS POST OFFICE, UH, LOCATION AND THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DESIGN.
SO AN AMENDMENT WENT FORWARD AND WE HAD TO ADD MONEY TO THE BUDGET FOR THE DESIGN CONSULTANT TO COMPLETE THOSE MODIFICATIONS.
AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN HAVE THAT PROJECT OUT FORBID, MAY, JUNE, AND START CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE WILL LEAVE THE 2.9 MILLION, UH, IN 26.
THEN I'M GONNA CHANGE THIS TO T 15.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S TAN.
IT'S IN, IS IT IN DESIGN? IT IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.
SO LET'S CHANGE T 15 TO YELLOW AND CHANGE THAT ORANGE OR RED OR WHATEVER TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COST CHANGE IT BLACK.
'CAUSE RED IS AUTOMATICALLY, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS BAD PROBLEM? RED IS BAD.
UH, T 16 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE'VE GOT A $9.4 MILLION PROJECT.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S DESIGN COST OF 600.
AND, UH, YOU'RE TOO FAR DOWN UP.
I WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT.
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SO, UH, ON THAT PROJECT, THE SIX, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE WHERE, UH, IT WAS THE EXTENSION.
UH, THEY GOING TO DO, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO THAT INTERSECTION? THEY'RE GONNA PUT A LIGHT IN THERE AND MAKE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT 50 MILES AN HOUR TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN AGAINST TRAFFIC.
BUT WHAT IS IT? HAVE WE SPENT SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX HUNDRED THIRTY $3,000 IN 2026? WAS THAT BUDGETED? I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS NO.
SO, SO THE, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
THERE WAS A DEVELOPER THAT WAS GOING TO DESIGN THAT.
AND FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WE HAVE NOT CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT IT WAS APPROVED IN 26.
BUT NO, NO MONIES HAVE BEEN SPENT YET.
AND SO MONEY WAS BUDGETED IN 26, THEN WE LEAVE 6 33 AND 26.
WHAT IS THAT IN 28 FOR CONSTRUCTION? UH, REAL QUICK.
WHEN IS THE HIGH SCHOOL SUPPOSED TO OPEN UP? 20.
SO
AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WILL BE A FULL YEAR.
SO THAT, THAT'LL BE FISCAL YEAR, ESSENTIALLY FISCAL YEAR 28.
SO IT'LL ESSENTIALLY BE FISCAL YEAR 28 WHEN IT OPENS UP TO JUNIORS AND FISCAL YEAR 29 WHEN IT OPENS UP TO SENIORS.
WHY DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS OFF INTO 28? WHY DON'T WE WANT TO PUT IT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT I WAS ASKING.
NO, I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE.
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE SCHOOL.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PRAIRIE WINDS AND FLORIDA.
AND YOU HAVE THE PRESCHOOL AT THE CHURCH.
'CAUSE THAT WAS BUDGETED THE 8.8.
8.8 IS CURRENTLY PARKED IN 28.
CANDY? HMM? ARE YOU REWARDING HIM WITH CANDY? NO.
THAT'S HOW I KEEP HIS ATTENTION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA KEEP 2026 AS IS.
WE'RE MOVING 20, 27 AMOUNT AND IT SAYS DEBT.
WE'RE MOVING THE 2028 AMOUNT INTO 2027.
THAT CUTTING IT REAL CLOSE, PUTTING PRESSURE ON THEM BECAUSE IT, LIKE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A DESIGN YET.
LIKE IT, THE DEVELOP, LIKE, NOT EVEN CONFIRMED.
SO THERE, REMEMBER THERE'S COORDINATION WITH THE SCHOOL MM-HMM
AND THEY HAVE THEIR CONSULTANT THAT COULD EX EXPEDITE THE DESIGN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
BUT YEAH, SUPPOSEDLY THEY'RE IN TALKS WITH TECH STOP.
I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.
T 17 LIMMER LOOP AND HAY BARN INTERSECTION.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN E-T-J-I-I SAY WE LEAVE IT IN 2030 OR PUSH IT TO 2031.
LEAVE IT JUST, I SAY LEAVE IT.
AND ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHEN, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR COMPLETION OF THE, THE WATER LINES, SEWER LINES THAT ARE GOING IN OUT THERE AND THE DEVELOPER COMING IN AND STARTING TO GO VERTICAL.
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ABOUT THE ROAD.POSSIBLE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION.
THAT SHOULD BE A BLUE, NOT, NOT A YELLOW.
AND THAT 5 MILLION LOOKS FAKE.
DID WE DO DESIGN IN 25 ON T 18? OKAY.
SO T 18 IS CURRENTLY, DESIGN IS UNDERWAY.
THE CONSULTANT IS ASKING FOR SUPPLEMENTAL, LIKE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
UM, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETE, ALTHOUGH COUNCIL, AS PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE, UH, THEY HAD ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD GO TO CONSTRUCTION IN 27 FOR THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, THEN LET'S MOVE THE, SO IT HASN'T BEEN BUDGETED FOR 26? NO, NO.
THE, THE FUNDING FOR THAT ONE WAS IN 25.
AND SO WE ARE STILL UTILIZING THOSE 20, 25, UM, DOLLARS AND MM-HMM
WE EITHER WERE GOING TO TRY TO GO LATE, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR OR EARLY FISCAL YEAR 27 FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UM, WELL, IF IT'S NOT IN THE 26TH BUDGET, THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT THIS YEAR.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT 2026 NUMBER MM-HMM
LET'S GO AHEAD AND SLIDE THAT RIGHT OVER TO 27.
AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT FOR COUNTER ROAD 1 63 IS WE WANTED TO NOT HAVE CONSTRUCTION FOR COUNTER ROAD 1 37 AND 1 63 AT THE SAME TIME.
WE WANT TO COMPLETELY COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION ON COUNTY ROAD 1 37 AND THEN BRING IN AND START CONSTRUCTION ON COUNTY ROAD 1 63.
BUT WE, BUT WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED 1 37, CORRECT.
WHAT ARE THEY BUILDING? 1 37 IS MORE IMPORTANT.
1 37 IS MORE IMPORTANT, BUT I DON'T IF, IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO SAY, OOH, THAT'S TOO MUCH MONEY IN 27 OR 20 OR 28 OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S THEIR CALL WITHOUT DOUBT.
AND THEY CAN SHIFT IT, BUT DO ONE, DO 1 63 OR 1 37? THE BID OPENING.
THE OPENING OF THE BIDS FROM CONTRACTORS IS NEXT WEEK FOR 1 37 RIGHT HERE.
UH, T 19 CR 1 99 RECONSTRUCTION.
MAN, THAT IS, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I, UH, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS 28.
1660 SOUTH AT THE RAIL AT THE RAILROAD AND US 79.
WE WE'RE NOT SURE WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE COMPLETED.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING, WE SHOULD NOT BE STARTING 1 99 WHILE THAT CONSTRUCTION'S GOING ON.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A REALLY BAD IDEA.
SO TEXT DOTS AND, UH, UPR UPDATE IS, UH, NOVEMBER OF 26.
THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE SAYING HE'LL BE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION? NO, THAT WE WOULD START LIKE, OH, OKAY.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO THAT INTERSECTION? HUH? WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO THAT INTERSECTION? REVAMPING IT, DO EVERYTHING.
THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD PUT AN OVERPASS.
JUST LAUNCH PEOPLE INTO THE STRATOSPHERE.
AS LONG AS YOU COME BACK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 79, IT DOESN'T MATTER, DUKE, JUST DO THE DUKES OF HAZARD SITE.
JUST GIVE 'EM AN ON-RAMP AND SHOOT 'EM OVER AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
CAN WE, CAN WE GET WAYLON JENNINGS TO NARRATE IT? IT WOULD PROBABLY TO IT.
UH, YEAH, SO T 19, I'M GOOD WITH T 20
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IS COMPLETE.UH, SO THAT'S IN, THAT ONE'S UNDER DESIGN CURRENTLY.
THAT ONE IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.
UM, THEY'RE SHOWING 2.2, 2.25 MILLION IN 27.
I'VE GOT A DIFFERENT NUMBER ON MINE.
ARE, ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? THAT TO EXPAND THE WHOLE ROAD, UH, THAT, THAT'S TO EXPAND IT FROM US.
I THINK IT MIGHT JUST BE UP TO THE Y.
BUT THAT'S THE ROAD RUNNING BEHIND HOOKY AND CHEWY'S AND EVERYTHING.
SO THEY'RE JUST, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE SCHNEIDER IS.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THAT? SCHNEIDER IS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STARTS? NO, NO, THAT'S UP WHERE THE, UH, TITAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, TITAN BUSINESS PARK STARTS.
OH, WHERE ALL THE WAREHOUSES THIS TEES INTO? WAY UP TO, THEY'RE SO THEY'RE WIDENING, RIGHT? NO.
NO, IT GOES UP TO, IT JUST GOES UP TO EMORY FARMS SLASH SCHNEIDER.
SO IT'S WHERE THOSE WAREHOUSES THAT TEASE INTO THE WAREHOUSES SIDE, YOU GOT IT.
A LITTLE ROUNDABOUT TYPE THING IN THERE, ED, THERE USED TO BE THERE, ISN'T THAT? YEAH, THEY TOOK IT OUT.
YOU, YOU GO OUT THERE NOW, YOU HAVE ALL THE, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.
YOU, YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH THERE.
WELL, I, I DON'T SEE IT OF GREAT IMPORTANCE AT THE MOMENT, BUT I DO SEE, I DO SEE IT OF GREAT IMPORTANCE BY THE END OF 27, BECAUSE THOSE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS YEAH.
WHICH WAS MORE ON THE WEST SIDE OF ALLIANCE.
UH, IS THAT THE ONE PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RED LIGHT ON FACEBOOK ALL THE TIME? WHAT? RED LIGHT.
THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT, I GUESS THEY COMPLAIN THAT THERE'S NO RED LIGHT THERE.
NO, THAT'S LIMMER AND INNOVATION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COLLEGE.
IT'LL ALSO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOYOTA.
SO THE $500, 500,000 THAT WAS SHOWN.
OH NO, THAT'S, SO 20 TT 22 WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED IN 2026.
THAT 500,000 OR THE WHOLE THING? ONLY 500,000.
THEN LET'S FOR DESIGN, AND WE HAVE THAT PROPOSED FOR CITY COUNCIL, EITHER THE FEBRUARY 19TH OR MARCH, UM, FIFTH COUNCIL AGENDA.
THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE 500,000 INTO FY 26 AND LET'S CHANGE T 22 TO, IT'S NOT INDESIGN YET, IS IT? NO, WE HAVEN'T.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL MOVE THE 500,000 FROM 27 TO 26.
UM, IS WE GONNA TALK ABOUT DEVELOP DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS ON THAT? OH, THERE'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION.
THERE BETTER BE, WE BETTER NOT BE FOOTING THE BILL FOR THIS WHOLE THING.
THINK WE SHOULD, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TWO MAJOR DEVELOPERS GOING IN SPROUTS AND TOYOTA.
DOES THAT NEW TURS REACH ALL OVER THERE OR NO? I'M NOT SURE THE TURS BOUNDARIES, BUT IF IT DOES, YEAH.
YEAH, IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S ON THE CIP.
YOU GUYS NEED TO PONY UP SOME BUCKS.
UH, T 23 16 60 NORTH FARLEY TO LIMMER.
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HUH? FARLEY.WHY FARLEY, WHY, WHY CHOOSE FARLEY? OH.
'CAUSE THEY ALREADY DID THE RIGHT TURN LANE.
THEY'VE ALREADY DONE, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE 1660 AT 79 THERE.
ON THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA BE WIPING OUT A LOT OF FRONT YARDS.
IT DEPENDS ON, IT DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
BUT I THOUGHT THE, I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, I THOUGHT THE GOOD IDEA FERRY WAS SETTLING ON CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WERE DOING ALL THE EAST WEST ROADS THROUGH OLD TOWN FIRST.
AND THEY WERE DOING EAST AND AND WEST FIRST.
AND CHANGING THE DIRECTIONS AND CHANGING THE STRIPINGS AND ALL OF THIS STUFF.
SO I THINK THIS 1660 NORTH EXPANSION IS TOO EARLY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND 1660 THROUGH THAT AREA.
THOSE HOUSES ARE, MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY THAT LAND, BUT I GUESS IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM FOR SETBACK FROM A HOUSE TO THE ROAD THEN, OR IS THE WHOLE HOUSE GONNA HAVE TO GO? NO.
SO LIKE I SAID, IT DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF THE WORK.
THE EXPANSION IS TO REFURBISH CURBS AND PUT IN A CURBSIDE SIDEWALK.
THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE PURCHASING.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER LANE MM-HMM
THAT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE COMPLEX.
IT'LL BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TICKET.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF THE WORK HOUSE AT POINT, I'M, I'M NOT SURE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, BUT BEING THAT THEY, THAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT EAST AND MAIN AND WEST FIRST, AND THEN FARLEY AND PECAN AND LIVE OAK AND METCALF AND HU BUSINESSES NEXT.
THEN 1660 HAS GOTTA BE WAY LATER.
SO YOU'RE REALLY GONNA TURN THE APPLE CARTT OVER BY, ON THE EAST AND WEST TAKING, RIGHT.
THEN YOU SAY, OH, I WANT THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT TOO.
THERE'S REALLY GONNA BE P****D OFF PEOPLE.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M MOVED OUT, WHAT I'M THINKING FOR T 23 IS WE JUST PUT THE WHOLE THING IN 31, 31 OR 30, AND THEY CAN DECIDE WHEN THEY WANT TO SCHEDULE IT AS PART OF THEIR OLD TOWN DESIGNED STREETS.
THEY HAVEN'T REALLY COME UP A PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN THE STREETS DOWN.
SO ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THAT, IS O TOWN CONSIDERED HISTORIC HISTORIC DISTRICT? YES, IT IS.
THEN YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH HISTORIC COMMISSION.
BUT 1660 IS CURRENTLY COUNTY OWNED.
SO EVERYONE GOOD WITH MOVING 9.1 MILLION INTO 31? YEP.
UH, T 24 CR 1 37 EXPANSION FROM FARLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL TO CR 1 38.
AND IS THAT THE ONE THAT IS GOING OUT FOR BID SOON OR IS IT JUST THE ROUNDABOUT AT 1660 SOUTH AND 1 37? I THINK IT'S JUST THE ROUNDABOUT.
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE WHOLE ROAD.
RIGHT? IT'S FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THAT ONE SAYS FROM FARLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INCLUDING THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND THEY'VE GOT 15, $16 MILLION IN, THEY'VE GOTTA WORK WITH THE BRIDGE.
T 24 IS NOT A PART OF THAT OTHER COUNTER AT 1 37.
AND T 24 I HAD IN 2030 LAST YEAR.
UH, WHERE, LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK.
WHERE IS 1 63? IS THAT 27 AND 28?
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UH, SORRY.SEE, THE NUMBERS HAVEN'T MOVED ON HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT TO 30? WHAT? WELL, NO, IF ALL, ALL I'M LOOKING AT DOING IS IF WE'RE DOING 1 63 AND 28, THEN WE DO 1, 1 37 IN EITHER 27 OR 29.
I THINK 1 37 SHOULD BE DONE FIRST.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT, BUT WAS THERE ANY DESIGN BUDGETED FOR 1 37 IN FY 26? NOT ACCORDING TO THIS.
NOT ACCORDING TO THIS, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD'VE TO DO DESIGN IN 27 AND THEN WE'D BE DOING CONSTRUCTION IN 28.
AND WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON DESIGN FOR 1 63.
SO THEY BOTH GET DELAYED IF YOU DON'T CONTINUE IN THE PATH THAT THEY'RE ALREADY SCHEDULED BY FLIP.
I THINK T 24, WE SHOULD PUT THE, UH, WE SHOULD PUT 1.6 MILLION FOR DESIGN IN 27.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER, BECAUSE WE HAVE A BRIDGE IN THERE.
WE, WE BUILT IN BRIDGE COMPLICATIONS, THEN WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION IN 29, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S SET UP FOR NOW.
25, UH, 1 32, UH, WAIT FROM 1 1 32.
AND THAT THE ROAD, WHEN 1 32 GOES OUT TO THE SOUTH, I, IT TAKES A RIGHT.
I THINK THEY'RE TALK, NO, I THINK THAT'S NOT 1 33 EXPANSION.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? 1 32, UM, 3 49.
IS THAT, WHICH ONE RUNS BY THE SANDPOINT HIGHWAY? NORTH.
WHAT DOES MEGA SITE, BUT 1 32 DOESN'T RUN INTO THAT 30, DOES IT? YEAH.
OR 1 32 MAKES A TURN TO THE LEFT.
1 32 MAKES THAT EAST TURN DOWN THERE.
UH, SO IS THAT THE, UM, SO, SO THEY'RE TALKING EVERYTHING FROM THE NORTH SOUTH 1 32.
EVERYTHING FROM NORTH SOUTH 1 32 TO 33 49.
JUST 3 49 IS THE ONE THAT GOES EAST.
YEAH, IT'S THAT, THAT WHOLE SECTION BETWEEN GOING EAST, WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S GONNA BE RENAMED UHHUH
IT'S ALREADY ONE THIRTY TWO UP THERE.
OH, THEY'RE MAKING THAT ALL 1 32.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S ALL 1 32 NOW.
SO FOR CLARITY, GONNA RENAME IT.
SAMSUNG HIGHWAY FOR CLARITY, LET'S CHANGE T 25, 20 29 CR 1 32 FROM US.
ABLE TO GET SOME, DO YOU WANT ME TO RENAME IT TOO? UH, 79 TO, SO CHANGE, IT SAYS CR 1 32 FROM CR 1 32 TO FM 33 49.
CHANGE IT TO CR 1 32 FROM US 79 TO FM 33 49.
79, 1 32, BECAUSE IT'LL GO BASICALLY FROM THE INTERSECTION THAT IS DEVELOPED OFF OF THE US 79 1 32.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY OVER.
AND WHERE'S THAT ONE? THERE WE GO.
LET'S, IT'S ALL THE WAY OUT IN 30.
WE GOOD WITH LEAVING IT THERE.
SOME DEVELOPER GONNA COME ALONG AND SAY, I WANT THIS.
PONY OPEN SOME MONEY, SO, YEP.
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ONE 30 NORTHBOUND.IS THIS THE FRONTAGE ROAD? THAT'S THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
THAT IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT'S GOING, THAT'S THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 79 UP TO LIMMER.
SO YOU, YOU'RE TALKING 54TH? YEAH.
OR IS IT 2025? I PERSONALLY TO, I THINK IT'S 26.
T 26 IS 26 ON THE CONSENT FOR THE FIFTH IT 20, MAYBE 19TH FOR TOMORROW.
IT'S ON, ON COUNSEL OR THE FIFTH CONSENT FOR WHAT? SO THE DESIGN FOR A BUDGET OR NOT DESIGN, ADDING IT INTO THE BUDGET.
IT'S, IT'S IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET ALREADY.
SO WE GOT IT AND THEY'VE GOT IT SLATED.
OH, CURRENTLY I SEE IT SLATED FOR 2030 FOR CONSTRUCTION.
OH, THAT'S, THAT'S TOO FAR OUT.
WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S COORDINATION WITH T STOP COORDIN.
AND THAT'S COORDINATION WITH TEXDOT HAVING PEN SEND YOU TEXAS REGIONAL.
IT MAY TAKE STOP HAVING PENSKE TOYOTA AND SPROUTS COME IN AND THROW THEIR MONEY AT IT.
IS A PENSKE GOING, YOU'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH PENSKE.
WELL, DID THIS DISCUSS THAT LAST YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE LAST DEAL WITH COLLEGE.
DISCUSS THAT PROPERTY ALL THE WAY THURSDAY AND IF THEY WANT TO MOVE IT UP, THEY CAN MOVE IT UP.
SO LET'S LEAVE IT AS IT'S, I THINK THE ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GONNA THROW, THROW SO MUCH MONEY AT IT.
T 28 FROM A COLLEGE BACKGROUND.
T 28 CR 1 32, CR 1 33 EXPANSION.
ALL OF THAT IN OUR ETJ, I MEAN IN THE CITY, OR IS THAT IN THE ETJ FOR THAT? IT'S THREE TWO TO 1 33.
IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, 1 32 DOES A LEFT HAND TURN.
SO 1 32 HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATED MM-HMM
AND THEN IT NEEDS TO ALIGN AND MATCH UP WITH 1 33.
SO, SO IT'S, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE LAND MM-HMM
SO THAT'S IN YELLOW, RIGHT? NO, IT'S NOT IN YELLOW.
T 28, UH, IS CURRENTLY, UH, ON, ON MY SHEET IT'S FY 30, WHICH I THINK IS FINE.
THAT WILL GIVE US TIME TO BEG AND PLEAD FOR COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE AGAIN.
SO I HAVE A DEVELOPER DROP SOME MONEY.
WELL, WE, NO, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPERS ALL THROUGH THERE.
THEY'RE NOT THROWING MONEY AT IT.
'CAUSE YOU GOT FLORA AND PRAIRIE WINDS RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE NOT THROWING MONEY IN HEAD.
T 29, CARL STERN FROM END, DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
AH, I ASSUME IT'S FROM THE CURRENT END OF IT.
CARL STERN RIGHT AT DEAD ENDS.
AND DEAD ENDS TALKING ABOUT AT THE ONE 30, NO, 1 32.
ISN'T IT? WAIT, WHAT? WAIT A MINUTE.
YEAH, IT RUNS RIGHT ALONG THAT.
WE GET CARL STERN AND JUST GO THAT WAY.
NOW THIS POOR FARMER OUT THERE.
THEN ONE 30, THIS ONE IS ALSO SCHEDULED FOR 2030.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SPOT FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE DON'T WANT CARL STERN EXTENDED TO 1 32 UNTIL THE 1 32 79 INTERSECTION IS AT LEAST CONCEPTUALIZED
UH, T 30 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT FM 1660 SOUTH AND CARL STERN, THAT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE CHURCH.
AH, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
ONE OF THE FEW THAT I DON'T TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.
OF COURSE, THAT ONE NEVER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME YOU GO THROUGH IT, BUT
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SO I OTHERWISE, TONY, I SHOW THAT IN 28 AND HERE THEY GOT IT IN 29.BETTER, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GOT FROM 79 WORKING, WORKING OUR WAY SOUTH.
WE'VE GOT THE INTERSECTION AND WE'VE GOT 1 99, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.
LET'S NOT PUT 'EM ALL IN THE SAME YEAR.
LET'S MAKE IT, WE'RE GONNA GO FROM ONE TRAFFIC JAM TO THE NEXT.
LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT, LET'S STAGGER IT OUT.
WE WERE GONNA DO COUNTY ROAD 1 37 1 YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN 1660 SOUTH.
1 37 TO CARL STERN, WIDEN CARL STERN'S INTERSECTION.
UH, WE WERE GOING TO WIDEN, UH, CARL STERNS.
AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO DO CARL STERN'S TO 79.
I DON'T, THAT'S FINE WITH, I'M FINE WITH ALL OF THAT.
WELL, I THINK CURRENTLY 29 CONFLICTS WITH DOESN'T CURRENT, DOESN'T 29 CURRENTLY CONFLICT WITH 1 37.
ISN'T 1 37 SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2029? DIDN'T, DIDN'T WE JUST DO THAT? THE EXPANSION TO GO BACK? YEAH.
T 24 ONE'S CONSTRUCTION ON T 24 20 29.
WELL THEN WE DON'T WANT TO DO AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AT CARL STERN IN 2029.
SO 2031, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING FROM CONSTRUCTION TO CONSTRUCTION AND RIVER WALK.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IS THE TURNABOUT ON 1 37 SCHEDULED? WHEN WE, WHEN DO WE SCHEDULE THAT? THAT WAS, THAT'S GONNA BE DONE STARTING SOON.
AND THAT WAS 27, I BELIEVE IS COMPLETION WOULD BE 12TH, 26.
SO WHY, IF WE'RE DOING 1 37, THAT'S THE ROAD.
THAT INTERSECTION, UH, WILL ALREADY BE DONE AT 1 37 60, THE INTERSECTION, INTER THE INTERSECTION WILL BE DONE.
AGAIN, BUT IF CARL STERN'S IS VERY, UH, A GR PRETTY DECENT DISTANCE AWAY FROM 1 7 7.
NOW, IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE OFF OF CARL STERN EAST MM-HMM
AND CARL STERN AND 1660 SOUTH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND BACKED UP.
YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK FOR A WAY TO GET SOUTH TO THE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY.
SO YOU CAN GO WEST AND IF CARL STERN AND 1 37 OR BOTH UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME, YOUR ONLY CHOICE IS TO GO NORTH TO 1 32 AND 79, WHICH IS NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IS A DEATH TRAP.
SO IF WE STAGGER THESE TWO, THEN AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN GET OUT SOME WAY.
OR THEY CUT THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHICH YEAH, 90% OF 'EM GONNA DO THEIR CUTS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE GONNA CUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE GONNA CUT THROUGH, DO WE WANT TO DO CARL STERN IN 30? UH, YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
T 31 MEGASITE, NORTH, SOUTH ARTERIAL.
EDGE SCHMITT WIDENING AND SAFETY S 79 TO LIMMER LOOP.
THAT'S GOTTA BE THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT PROJECT, RIGHT? OR NO? WE, WE GOT THE SIDEWALKS.
I DIDN'T SEE THE INTERSECTION YET.
SO IS THIS THE OTHER HALF OF THAT? THAT'S THE INTERSECTION AND THE WIDENING AND ALL THAT GOODNESS.
BASICALLY FROM, WHAT IS IT? UH, TACO CASA NORTH.
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WIDENING OF EDGE MID, UM, BETWEEN, FOR THE FULL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IN THE STUDY COMPLETED BY GARVER IN 2023 HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, INCORPORATED.SO WE HAVE KIND OF THE FIRST PASS OF THE HIGH PRIORITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IN THE, UH, FINAL REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY GARVER.
SO THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE A WIDENING OF EDGE SCHMIDT OVERALL.
WE'RE JUST MAKING THOSE, THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN THE SIDEWALKS IN T 10, RIGHT.
NOW IS T TEN'S AMOUNT OF 3.7 MILLION COMING OFF OF T 32? NO, IT'S SEPARATE.
UM, IS THERE ANY CHANGES WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THAT LIVE OAK BEING EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO EDGEMONT? I THOUGHT THERE WAS A INTERSECTION CHANGE OR SOMETHING THERE.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PROJECT T 46.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT OR IF ANY WAY, OR IT, IT POTENTIALLY COULD.
UM, BUT TT 46 IS ACTUALLY, SO THERE'S A DEVELOPER AND THEIR ENGINEERS, KIMLEY HORN AND, UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE KIMLEY HORN TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN.
THEY GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WE REIMBURSE THEM WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE ALLOCATED.
'CAUSE THERE IS FUNDING, I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN 2026.
BUT THAT DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE JUST YET.
SO THE, THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT EDGE SCHMIDT AND THE EXTENSION OF WHAT WOULD BE LIVE OAK WAS TO SHOW A SIGNAL OR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT SIX, UH, EDGE MID, UM, WHICH COULD BE TURN LANES OFF OF EDGEMONT ONTO WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW LIVE OAK.
AND THE SAME A DECELERATION OR ACCELERATION LANE AS YOU TURN OFF OF THE WESTBOUND LIVE OAK ONTO NORTHBOUND EDGE SCHMIDT.
BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED.
SO I KNOW I'M JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT LET'S COMBINE OR NOT COMBINE, LET'S SCHEDULE DESIGN FOR T 32 AND T 46 IN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR.
DESIGN YOUR INTERSECTION AND THE WIDENING OF LIMMER LOOP AT THE SAME TIME.
EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN 20, SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO ON 32 MM-HMM
UM, WHAT ARE WE SEEING FOR 32? UH, 20? I DON'T THINK IT WAS BUDGETED IN 26.
WAS IT ANY SORT OF DESIGN OR ANYTHING? 15 MILLION BUDGETED IN 26.
I, I KNOW THE DON'T INTERSECTION IN THE SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS APPROVED.
BUT THAT, THAT EXCEL SPREADSHEET IS WHAT, OKAY.
UH, ALBERTA AND MATT TOOK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO LET, AND THAT DOESN'T SHOW THE IMPROVEMENT.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT 1.5 MILLION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS SHEET IS FOR.
DID YOU GUYS CATCH THAT? MM-HMM
1.5 MILLION FOR DESIGN T 32 IN FY 2027.
UM, YEAH, LET'S DO 28 AND THEN, AND THEN T 46.
NOW T 46 DID RECEIVE 500,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
BECAUSE THAT'S IN EDC, RIGHT? GOING TO EDC.
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UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW.UM, DID YOU SAY KIMLEY HORN WAS GONNA DO THE DESIGN IN THAT? SO, KIM KIMLEY HORN WAS THE DESIGN CONSULTANT FOR THE DEVELOPER.
AND WE WANTED AND REQUESTED THAT SINCE THEY HAD ALREADY COMPLETE, WE THOUGHT THEY COMPLETED THE DESIGN AND WE WANTED THEM TO SHOW FINAL PLANS.
AND WE COULD EITHER TAKE THOSE PLANS AND WE THE CITY MOVE FORWARD IN A POSSIBLE COLLABORATION WITH EDC TO, UM, FAST TRACK THAT PROJECT.
UM, BUT KIMBERLY HORN CAME BACK AND GAVE US A PRICE PROPOSAL FOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AT A ASTRONOMICAL NUMBER.
SO, DO YOU KNOW WHO IT WAS BY CHANCE? FROM KIMBERLY HORN? YEAH.
SO EDC MAY BE CONTRIBUTING ED C'S NOT DOING THIS CIP.
SO UNLESS THEY'VE GOT A CHECK SITTING IN FRONT OF US.
I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT.
I'M SAYING, UM, MORE OF THE TIMELINE.
I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY BE IRONED OUT WHERE I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MOVED UP.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S UP TO EDC AND COUNCIL, I GUESS.
LET'S PUT THEIR, WHAT? LET'S PUT 1 MILLION FOR DESIGN.
'CAUSE THAT'S ONE 10TH THE COST, 1 MILLION FOR DESIGN AND FY 2027.
THAT WAY THE DESIGNS OF ED SCHMIDT AND LIVE OAK ARE SYNCED.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER, WE CAN PUT THAT, WE CAN PUT THE REMAINDER OF T 46, THE 9.1 MILLION.
LET THE DEVELOPER DECIDE WHEN THEY BUILD IT.
MAKE SENSE? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UH, NEXT UP IS T 35 EMERY CROSSING BOULEVARD EXTENSION.
I HATE TO THROW A MONKEY IN THE WRENCH.
WHAT DO YOU GOT? SO ON THAT T UH, 46 PROJECT UHHUH IN THE, AS PART OF THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, THEY COMBINED T 49 FOR SOME REASON.
WHAT, WHICH IT, IT HAS T 46, T 49 FOR THE 500,000.
IT SAYS EDGE, EDGE SCHMIDT TO FM 1660 THOUGH.
IT DON'T, THAT SCHMIDT DOESN'T GO TO 1660.
NO, IT SAYS 1660 SOUTH FROM COUNTY ROAD 1 37 TO EAST WILCO HIGHWAY HIGHWAY.
AND THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR LIVE OAK.
I I DON'T KNOW WHY IN THE, IN THE APPROVED BUDGET, IT HAS T 49 NEXT TO T 46.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
WHEN FINANCE COMES AND BRIEFS US, THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT, LET'S JUST PUT A NOTE FOR CLARIFICATION.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WHY T 49 IS COMBINED WITH T 46, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS GATEWAY IS GOING RIGHT THERE.
GATEWAY IS GOING RIGHT WHERE? 1660 SOUTH FROM 1 30 70 EAST WILCO.
YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING, YEAH, THAT'S GATEWAY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING 1 37, WE'RE TALKING 1660 GOING FROM EAST WILCO OR GOING FROM 1 37 EAST TO WILCO TO EAST WILCO.
IT'S NOT, THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, THOSE TWO DON'T MATCH UP WHATSOEVER.
I MEAN, IF IT SAID ONE MILES, IF IT SAID 1 37 FROM 1660 SOUTH, YES.
BUT IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE IS OKAY, ONE.
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ANYHOW, WE'LL LET FINANCE FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING FOR THAT WRENCH.UH, T 35 EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD EXTENSION, THAT IS GOTTA BE CONNECTING OUT TO 1660 NORTH OVER BY MUSTANG CREEK.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I DON'T KNOW.
EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD EXTENSION.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT FROM NOW? WAIT A MINUTE.
WE LOOKED AT EM, WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A BODY A FEW MONTHS AGO ON THE PHASING OF EMORY CROSSING.
YEAH, BUT EMORY, EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD IS AT EMORY FARMS RIGHT HERE.
IT IT IS THE ONE THAT'S NORTH.
IS THAT EMORY? EMORY CROSSING IS THE, IT'S ERY CROSSING.
YEAH, THAT'S EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD.
IS THE ONE ACROSS FROM LIVE OAK.
BUT I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALREADY MOVED OUT, RIGHT? THIS IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED? NO, NO.
THE, THE EX THEY'RE JUST WAITING ON THIS LAST PART RIGHT HERE.
BUT IT'S LIKE, JUST LITERALLY LIKE A LITTLE RECTANGLE LIKE THIS.
AND I, THEY'RE SAYING 9 MILLION FOR THAT.
BUT, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE IT IN 2030 ON MINE, OR IF THE DEVELOPER MADE IT.
ISN'T THAT WEIRD? SO I AM PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THIS BEING IN 2030.
BUT THE DEVELOPER, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THE SPREADSHEET? HAVEN'T THEY ALREADY STARTED THAT? YEAH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T CONNECTED IT TO 1660 NORTH.
SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENSION, BUT QUESTION I HAVE IS, I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S, WHAT YEAR IS IT ON THE SPREADSHEET FOR CONSTRUCTION? I'M CURIOUS.
I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S LIKE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE DEVELOPER DID IT, BUT IT'S NOT DONE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LET'S, LET'S PARK IT.
IF IT'S IN 29, LET'S MOVE IT TO 31.
IF IT'S IN 30, LET'S MOVE IT TO 31.
THE DEVELOPER CAN THEN SET THE PACE FOR THAT ONE.
THAT'S FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY SITS OUT TO 1 33.
IT IS NOT GOING WEST TOWARDS 1660.
I THINK THIS, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, WHAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW? DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE DRIVING THAT ONE.
IS THIS OUT TOWARD FLORA? OUT TOWARDS FLORA? YES.
SO I, I THINK IT'S NOT CONNECTED ALL THE WAY.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE DRIVING THAT ONE.
I SAY WE PARK IT IN 31 AND LET THE DEVELOPER MOVE IT.
THAT'S GONNA GET RID OF CONGESTED OUT THERE WITH ALL INSTALLING LIKE TWO YEP.
TWO ACCESS TO TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
UH, T 37 LIMMER LOOP FROM 1660 NORTH TO CR 1 32.
HOLD ON A SECOND, BECAUSE WE, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.
UH, WHERE'S THE OTHER LIMMER LOOP INNOVATION TO ED SCHMIDT? EDGE SCHMIDT TO 1660.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE T 48 AND T 47, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR, WE'RE GONNA START AT ONE END AND WORK OUR WAY TOWARDS THE OTHER.
AND THIS IS THE SECOND TO LAST PIECE.
T 38, T 39 IS THE LAST PIECE, RIGHT? THREE SEVEN.
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2030 SO THAT WE GET OUR SEQUENCING DOWN.BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 48 AND 47 SEQUENCED ON MY SHEET.
WHAT WE DOING WITH THAT ONE? 37? MM-HMM
UH, ARE WE LEAVING IT? THEY'VE GOT IT ON 29 IN HERE, DON'T THEY? OH YEAH.
AND THEN GOING BACK, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT T 38, AND THAT'S FROM LIMMER TO CR 116 60 NORTH.
SO FROM LIMMER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WATER TOWER THAT'S IN 31.
IS THAT WHERE WE PARKED? I YOU, IS THAT WHERE WE PARKED THE, UH, EMORY CROSSING BOULEVARD EXTENSION? DID WE PARK THAT IN 31? WHICH NUMBER IS THAT? UH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN T 35.
YOU TOLD ME TO MOVE IT FORWARD IN HERE.
SO WHEREVER THAT WAS, UH, 29, DIDN'T IT? 35 IS 1 38.
SO IS THAT T 38 AND FY 31? IS IT FY 31 FOR 35 MM-HMM
BUT THAT, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT THOSE TO GO TOGETHER IN CASE, RIGHT.
WE WANT THOSE TWO TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING AN INTERSECTION, PROBABLY A SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT, AT EMORY CROSSING AND WIDENING 1660 NORTH.
WELL, HOW DO WE, BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE POTENTIALLY COULD GET MOVED IN BY EMERY CROSSING IF WE IT COULD GET MOVED IN.
BUT I THINK THE DESIGNS NEED TO OCCUR AT THE SAME TIME.
MUCH LIKE, MUCH LIKE LIVE OAK AND ED SCHMIDT DESIGN IT AT THE, AT THE SAME TIME EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
WE DON'T WIDEN IT FOR TWO WIDEN 16, 16 NORTH FOR TWO YEARS, BUT AT LEAST WE GOT THE DESIGN AND THEY DESIGNED THE INTERSECTION TO MATCH.
YOU'RE NOT REBUILDING HALF THE INTERSECTION LATER.
AND WHAT ABOUT T 37? UH, FY 30? YES.
31 40 T 40 16, 60 SOUTH FROM FRONT TO CARL STERN.
SO IF THEY'RE DOING 1660 AT 79, AND THEN CARL STERN AT 1660, THIS ALMOST NEEDS TO BE PHASED SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THEM, HOWEVER THAT WORKS OUT.
SO I'VE, THAT'S ON THE SIDEWALK.
I'M SEEING, I'M SEEING IT IN 29 ON MY OLD SHEET.
YEAH, I THINK WE LINED IT UP WITH THE SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING.
SO WE'VE GOT, YEAH, WE DID, WE'VE GOT 79 RAILROAD AND IT, THEY'RE EXPECTING NOVEMBER 26TH COMPLETION ON THAT.
STARTING STARTING NOVEMBER 26TH.
SO LET'S CALL IT END OF 27, JUST BARELY INTO FY 28 ON THAT.
SO IT WOULD THEN MAKE SENSE FOR THIS PORTION DOWN TO CARL STERN TO GO IN AT 28, 29.
WE TAKE A BREAK FROM THAT AND GO DOWN TO 1 30, 7 30.
WE COME BACK AND WE FINISH UP THE INTERSECTION NOW, WHICH I BELIEVE WE PUT THE INTERSECTION AT 30.
SO THIS, I THINK WOULD NEED TO GO TO 28.
UH, BUT YEAH, IT'S CURRENTLY IN 29.
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GO 28.WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I LIKE IT.
SO I'M SEEING A, ON 40, I'M SEEING, UH, 800, 12,027.
THEY'RE CONSULTING OVER HERE ON SOMETHING ELSE.
OH, 28? NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, ON MY SHEET IT IS 27 AND 28.
THEY HAVE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
BUT I, I, I CAN'T SCROLL OVER TO SEE WHERE THE ACTUALLY FUNDING IS.
AND THEN ON, ON MINE, I'VE GOT 7.3 AND 28.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE, WE DID THAT LAST YEAR.
SO T 40, I THINK WE LEAVE AS IS.
T 41, CR 1 32 REALIGNMENT BETWEEN IT, IT'S ALREADY, REMEMBER IT'S YELLOW, SO IT'S ALREADY, UH, DESIGN CONTRACT.
UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO DO THE SAME FOR T 47 AND T 48, BUT I AM SORRY, AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
CR 1 32 REALIGNMENT BETWEEN CR 1 32 AND 1 33.
UM, SO COUNTY ROUTE 1 32 IS, UM, GOING, THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NORTHWARD AND WE'RE REALIGNING THE ROADWAY.
SHIFTING IT TO THE WEST IN THE, IN THE GREEN SPACE THERE.
IT'S JUST THE REALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE ROAD.
WELL, SO IF YOU ZOOM BACK IN, IF, IF I'M, I THINK IT'S THE, IT IS A, THE ACTUAL, YOU'RE NOT HERE AND I'M NOT HERE AND HE'S NOT HERE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO, WHAT? LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR THAT'S, IT'S ON, IT'S ON ACTUALLY THE ROADWAY.
TOTAL, TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING WHERE IT IS.
AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS HERE.
T 42, FM 1660 NORTH FROM CR 100 TO CR 1 33.
THAT'S OUT PAST THE NINTH GRADE CENTER.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I AGREE.
ED SCHMIDT FROM LIMMER TO CHANDLER.
WHO, THAT'S A LONG WAYS TO GO.
YOU COULD TELL BY THE, THE NUMBER IN THE NEXT COLUMN.
THAT, THAT AGAIN IS OUT IN A LOT OF THAT'S OUT.
I'D MOVE IT TO 31 ON, I DUNNO, I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT IN 30 AND WE CAN MOVE TO 31 IF WE NEED TO NEXT YEAR.
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PRETTY WIDE.
IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LOOKING ROAD.
SO IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LOOKING ROAD.
ONLY, THE ONLY THING IS TO BE THERE THOUGH, IS THAT THEY'RE GOING 60 AND THERE'S A LOT OF LEFT, SOME LEFT TURNS WHERE I, THAT'S WHERE I'VE SEEN THE COMPLAINTS, WHERE IT GETS KIND OF SCARY.
'CAUSE THERE'S A APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING OUT THERE.
BUT IF WE PUT IT IN 30 AND THERE'S A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO PUSH, THEY CAN MOVE IT.
UH, T 44, 16 16 NORTH FROM CR 1 33 TO CHANDLER.
20, UH, T 45, 16 60 SOUTH FROM CARL STERN TO CR 1 37.
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SEE DOWN HERE T 49.OH, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONE WE WERE FIGURING OUT.
AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING THE PHASING.
SO WE GOT 27 TO 28 CARL STERN TO, WE TALKED ABOUT 46 EARLIER.
MAKING IT THE SAME TIME AS T 32.
BUT THEN ALSO WE'RE GONNA ASK WHY T 46 AND T 49 WERE COMBINED IN THE BUDGET.
BUT T 49, I'M ASKING FOR WHAT YEAR WE'VE GOT THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT CARL STERN TO 79 ESSENTIALLY FOR 28, LIKE 20 30, 20 30.
THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT 45 CARL STERN TO 1 37 AS 29.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT, SORRY, WHICH ONE ARE YOU WANTING TO MOVE? T 48.
T 45 CURRENTLY HAS THEIR MONEY ALLOCATED FOR 25, 26, 27.
SO WE HAVE RAILROAD IN 27 DOWN TO CARL STERN IN 28.
CARL STERN DOWN TO 1 37 AND 29, 1 37 DOWN TO EAST WILCO IN 31, 2, 3, 4 STACK.
IS THERE ONE ON HERE THAT'S GONNA TAKE US TO ROW LANE NEXT? BECAUSE I, THAT'S THE NEXT LEG.
THAT'S THE NEXT LEG ON THERE, ISN'T IT? KEEP CONNECTING IT.
THAT'S WAY ETJ, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY, I'M GONNA SAY 35.
I WAS, I WAS SAYING DID WE PUT THAT AS 32? YEAH, 37 AND A HALF.
WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY TALKED T 47.
I HAVE, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, IT'S ALREADY, IT'S BEEN GOING GO TO 49.
WAIT, INNOVATION TO ED SCHMIDT EDGE.
MINE WERE, MINE'S THE OLD ONE.
SO YEAH, WE'VE GOT INNOVATION TO ED SCHMIDT AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT'S ED SCHMIDT TO 1660 AGAIN.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE 50 MAIN HIPPO.
HUH? DIDN'T WE JUST DO, WAIT A MINUTE.
WHAT IS MAIN HIPPO FROM 1660 NORTH.
SO THAT'S RIGHT BELOW THE NINTH GRADE CENTER.
SIX FROM 1660 NORTH TO SEE 100.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S UP BY THE WATER TOWER.
THAT'S THAT CURVE OUT THERE BY THE WATER TOWER NUMBER PEOPLE.
BUT IT ALSO GOES EAST FROM THE, OR WEST FROM THE WATER TOWER.
SO NO, IT GOES EAST FROM WATER TOWER AND 100.
THERE'S THAT LITTLE DIP AND ROUND BEHIND IT THERE.
DO YOU? SO THE O FROM MAIN HIPPO AND 1660, IT'S GOTTA BE GOING ACROSS THE OPEN FIELD AND THEN CONNECTING UP TO 100.
SO HE'S SHOWING IT ON THE BUILDING.
THAT WATER TOWER SITS RIGHT IN, IN THAT CORNER.
THAT BASICALLY THE GREEN DOT I THINK.
IS THAT RIGHT AREA, RIGHT? YEP.
THE WATER TOWER'S RIGHT IN THERE.
SO YEAH, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SEGMENT 52 HERE.
THEY'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT REALIGNING THAT THEN, ARE THEY? YEAH.
NO, THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REALIGNING IT.
THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S NOTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF 16 60, 50 SEGMENT 52 HERE, WHICH IS PROJECT T 50.
IS THAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST GOING UP THERE? UH, NOPE, NOPE, NOPE.
DOWN A LITTLE DOWN A LITTLE DOWN A LITTLE.
THERE'S THE INTERSECTION AND IT'S GOING
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DOWN.IT'S GOING WEST AND THEN IT'S GOING TO CURVE UP TO SEE OUR 100.
OH, IT'S GONNA GO AROUND? YES.
THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE, BUT OKAY.
WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE FOR PURPOSES OF CONNECTING INTO EMORY CROSSING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOES RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT DIVISION UP THERE THAT YEAH.
'CAUSE THERE'S STUBBING OUT RIGHT THERE, SO MM-HMM
I LEAVE IT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
T 51 LIMMER LOOP FROM COVERT TWO CR 1 0 1.
WHERE IS CR 1 0 1? I CAN'T, I CAN'T PLACE THAT.
THAT'S, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRAND NEW.
'CAUSE 1 0 1 IS RIGHT ABOVE THE 79 BADGE.
SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LIMBER LOOP, NOT TOUCHING 79 AND GOING TO 1 0 1 AND CONTINUING EAST TO THE RIGHT TO 1 0 1.
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT AS A PARALLEL TO 79? BUT YEAH, BUT STILL, YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S CHOPPING UP ALL THAT LAND IN THERE.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO THE, PROBABLY THE HOAX PROBABLY DID CHOP THAT LAND UP AND CREATE LOTS ALONG 79 FOR SOMEONE TO DEVELOP ON AND HAVE ACCESS.
THAT AND THAT JUG HANDLE PART.
I BET THAT JUG HANDLE CURVE PART RIGHT THERE.
JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE ARROW.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO PLUG IN.
'CAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT CLOSER TO THE BRIDGE, THE 33 49 BRIDGE.
WELL, DO YOU THINK THEY'LL TAKE IT FURTHER NORTH ACTUALLY GO? NO, ACTUALLY GO STRAIGHT ACROSS, OFF OF THERE.
I WOULD SAY LET'S PUNT IT TO 31.
I DON'T SEE NO NEED TO RUSH IT.
T 52 MEGASITE, NORTH SOUTH EXTENSION FROM CR 1 32 TO EAST WILCO HIGHWAY.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 30, 31 PROJECT.
THIS IS SCHNEIDER BOULEVARD FROM INNOVATION TO SH ONE 30.
I DON'T THINK THIS ONE'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WHAT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA CUT THROUGH OR BETWEEN THE COLLEGE AND THE TOYOTA DEALERSHIP.
YEAH, THEY, AND GO OUT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD NEITHER.
OH, IT'S GONNA GO, IT'S BETWEEN THE COLLEGE AND TOYOTA.
ISN'T TOYOTA GONNA BE FARTHER NORTH? ISN'T IT GONNA BE NORTH OF SNYDER? A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IF I, I DON'T KNOW IF NORTH OF SCHNEIDER, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF INNOVATION IS COLLEGE LAND OR NOT.
I KNOW THAT THE LAND NORTH OF THE COLLEGE IS COLLEGE LAND.
ALL THE WAY UP TO LIMMER, BUT, OR WHATEVER.
I, SO I DON'T KNOW THE PRECISE ALIGNMENT, BUT OOH, SCHNEIDER GOING FROM INNOVATION TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
WHOOPTY DO, WOULD IT GIVE ACCESS TO, WELL, ANYTHING OFF INNOVATION TO THE HIGHWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S KEEP 'EM OFF 79 OR KEEP 'EM OFF 79.
BUT ALL THE TRUCKS THAT BE COMING THROUGH THERE, THEY DID.
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING ROAD DOWN SOUTH THAT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO, UH, ONE 30 TO ONE 30.
'CAUSE YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND ACTUALLY GET ON THE RAMP HEADING NORTH.
AND THEN IF YOU HEAD NORTH ON INNOVATION, YOU'LL HIT THE LIGHT AT LIMMER.
AND IF YOU TAKE A LEFT ON LIMMER, THEN YOU SNAKE OVER AND YOU CAN ALSO HIT ONE 30.
MAYBE THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MORE DIRECT ROUTE.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO THE, YOU'RE DUMPING IT OUT
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TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PROB THERE'S GONNA BE A SNAR OF TRAFFIC.
SO IF THAT'S THE, I DON'T SEE IT AS A PRIORITY IS WHERE I'M GOING.
I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT IN 31 AND BE SAFE.
TOYOTA COLLEGE, FIGURE IT OUT.
ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT THIS CUTTING, RIGHT? YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING 30 FROM ONE 30 ONTO SCHNEIDER.
YOU SHOVE IT CLEAR OUT TO 35 40 SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET ONTO ONE 30 FROM THERE.
SO WE'RE COOL WITH PUTTING IT TO 31.
WELL, THERE'S TOYOTA AND THE COLLEGE IS TRYING TO BRING TRAFFIC INTO AND FROM THAT AREA.
UH, T 54 1 THAT THEN THEY CAN BRING IT FORWARD.
MEGASITE, EAST WEST EXTENSION FROM END 1 32.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DEVELOPER THING.
CARL STERN EXTENSION FROM CARMA GU.
CAM ARGUE IT MUST BE WAY EAST TO MEGASITE.
WHERE DOES CARL? YEAH, CARL STERN DOESN'T EVEN REACH IT YET.
OH, IT DOESN'T, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THAT STERN GOING EAST.
THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 31 PROJECT.
T 56 CR ONE 18 FROM SH ONE 30 TO EDGE SCHMIDT, UM,
I'M THINKING 31 ON THAT ONE WITHOUT A DOUBT.
T 57 CR 100 FROM ED SCHMIDT TO 1660 NORTH.
DOES 100 EVEN GO THERE? I THOUGHT 100 CURVED UP AND HIT CHANDLER.
I THINK IT'S GOT THAT DOG LEG COMING THROUGH THERE.
CHANDLER NEVER TOUCHES ED SCHMIDT.
ONE 19 IS IS ONE 18 IS, UH MM-HMM
RUNS PARALLEL TO ED SCHMIDT, SO.
THAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD 31 PROJECT.
IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE THEN.
MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA REALIGN THEN SCHMIDT OR SOMETHING.
T 58, 16 60 NORTH FROM CHANDLER TO THE ETJ LIMIT.
THAT'S A 31 THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT.
59 IS EAST WILCO HIGHWAY TO ETJ.
UH, T 60 CR ONE 30 FROM WHAT, 100? IT'S BACK IN THAT CORNER AGAIN, ISN'T IT? 100 TO CHANDLER CR ONE 30.
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BUT IT DOESN'T HIT.I I WAS, I WAS READING IT BACKWARDS.
THAT'S THAT STRETCH FROM, THAT'S CHANDLER DOWN TO THE WATER TOWER.
IT'S, UH, I USE IT ALL THE TIME TOO, BUT I USED TO, BUT NOW I GO 1660 OVER TO THE LIGHT TO GET ON CHANDLER.
NO, I MEAN, COMING, COMING OFF CHANDLER.
IF YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LOCK, YOUR HANDS CAN'T GO OUT.
UM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I THINK IF WE DO ED SCHMIDT AT CHANDLER, THAT'LL TAKE A LOT OF THAT SHORTCUT OFF OF 1 30, 1 30 IN CHANDLER.
SO I, I THINK I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH ONE 30 STAYING OUT IN 31.
BUT ISN'T THERE, ISN'T THERE A, ISN'T THERE A, A, A TRUCKING FIRM OR SOMETHING RIGHT OUT THERE ON, ON ONE 30 JUST TO THE, ON THE SOUTH END OF THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA? UH, THERE'S, I THINK, SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF TRUCKS IN A, IN A FOOD TRUCK PARKED THERE ALL THE TIME.
I JUST REMEMBER THERE BEING A BUNCH OF BIG RIGS PARKED ALONG THERE ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S THE PARKING STORAGE? IS THAT WHAT THAT OKAY.
AND THEN IF YOU GO SOUTH, YEAH, THERE'S THE PARKING CUT UP SOUTH.
RIGHT UNDER, RIGHT UNDER JONAH.
HERE, SEE THE TRUCKS ON ONE 30 OVER THERE TO UP AND TO THE LEFT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY A BUSINESS OR IT WAS JUST A PARKING LOT.
I THINK IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE CLEANING THEIR TRUCKS THERE.
BUT YES, THERE IS A FOOD TRUCK OUT THERE TOO.
BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS 'CAUSE I DON'T RECALL SEEING IT ED SCHMIDT OR ONE 19 AT CHANDLER.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ONE AT ALL.
THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS, THEY WERE GONNA WIDEN IT OR SOMETHING.
THEY WERE GONNA WIDEN, UH, ED SCHMIDT SCH FROM LIMMER TO CHANDLER, RIGHT? YES.
SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH DOING ONE 30 CR ONE 30.
UH, T 65, 1 32 TO 16 61, 32 TO 1660 SOUTH.
AND THAT IS A DEVELOPER PROJECT, RIGHT? YES.
QUIET ZONE IMPROVEMENTS AT JIM CAGE.
LIKE WE DON'T IT GOT WHAT? I HEARD IT GOT KILLED.
LIKE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO TO JIM CAGE.
SO IF WE CAN GET CONFIRMATION ON T 66, WE MAY JUST HAVE TO REMOVE THAT.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO CHANGE IT.
'CAUSE THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY MAY, THEY MAY DECIDE THAT IT'S OKAY.
MAYBE WE CHANGE THE SCOPE IS, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT IT OUT ON 31.
LOOKING AT A DECIMAL REDUCTION.
NO QUIET ZONE SO THAT IT, THE TRAIN DOES NOT BLOW THE HORN.
BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT, UH, ED SCHMIDT MM-HMM
WHICH IS DESIGNED TO BE A QUIET ZONE.
IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S DESIGNED THAT WAY.
THEN WE'VE GOT JIM CAGE AIN'T GONNA BE A QUIET ZONE, THE WORST ROAD IN HUDA
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GOT 1660 SOUTH, WHICH WITH THE DESIGNS THAT WE'RE DOING AND THE CONSTRUCTION WE'RE DOING WILL BE PREPPED FOR QUIET ZONE.THEN IF WE DO 1 32, THAT'S ENOUGH.
IF WE WERE TO CLOSE JIM CAGE TO HAVE HURO AS A QUIET ZONE, THEY WON'T CLOSE JIM CAGE THOUGH.
THEY WON'T, THE RAILROAD WILL NOT CLOSE IT.
WE DON'T NEED THE RAILROAD TO CLOSE IT.
THEY CONTROL THAT ROAD RIGHT THERE.
BUT IF IT GOES ACROSS THE TRACKS, BUT IF WE PUT CONCRETE BARRIERS ON 79 AND WE PUT CONCRETE BARRIERS ON FRONT STREET, TELLING YOU WHAT I KNOW, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AND EVERYTHING THAT, UH, THE RAILROAD NOT, I'M SAYING IT CAN BE A NON-FUNCTIONING ROAD.
WHAT THEN YOU'RE GOING HAM FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MY SUBDIVISION JIM CAGE.
16 60 16 GETS GO O GO GO OUT THERE AT SEVEN 30 IN THE, IN THE MORNING.
IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT'S STILL NOT, I'M, I'M GONNA TELL YOU IT'S GONNA HAPPEN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
ALL I WAS THROWING OUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO MAKE IT A QUIET ZONE.
WELL, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT THOSE, THE RAIL RAILROAD WILL NOT DO THAT.
OKAY, WELL LET'S LEAVE IT ON THERE AS 2031, T 67 FM 1660, SELF QUIET ZONE.
I MEAN THAT WHAT IS MAKING IT A QUIET ZONE? THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORN.
BUT WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE SO THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORN? SO IT HAS TO HAVE THE CORRECT KIND OF SIGNALS, THE CORRECT KIND OF ARMS, THE CORRECT KIND OF.
THEY GOTTA COMPLETELY REDO THE CROSS CROSSING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND THEY'RE NEVER GONNA ALLOW THAT AT JIM CAGE.
SO IF WE JUST SAID, FINE, WE'RE RIPPING UP THE PAVEMENT.
THEN THEY DON'T BLOW THEIR HORN THERE
THERE'S NO CROSSING BECAUSE THERE'S NO CROSSING
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I I KNOW I USE THAT SECTION ROAD ALL THE TIME.
I, I HAVE, I'VE USED IT MANY, MANY TIMES MYSELF.
AND, BUT THAT'S THE FASTEST WAY FOR ME TO COME DOWN 1660, JUMP IT AND THEN GO EAST OR WEST.
UH, THE NEXT ONE I'VE GOT, UH, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72 LINED OUT.
CAN I ASK ABOUT THAT? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED THERE? WELL, THO THOSE WERE INDIVIDUAL SIDEWALK PROJECTS, WHICH WERE THEN ROLLED UP INTO, UH, T ZERO ONE.
AND HOW DOES SIDEWALKS, WHO DETERMINES WHAT T ZERO ONE GOES TO OUT OF ALL THE STREETS IN COUNCIL, THEY DECIDE WHERE THEY WANNA SPEND THAT MONEY.
DON'T NEED SIDEWALKS AND CAGE THOSE ALL.
ONLY CHURCH STREET, JIM CAGE, AUSTIN AVENUE.
BUT THAT'S, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE 550,000 FOR THE SIDEWALKS PER YEAR, RIGHT.
SO WHICHEVER A SIDEWALK IS NEEDED THE MOST YEAH.
WHATEVER ONE'S COUNCIL DECIDES ON.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THAT MONEY.
AND SO AS A BOARD, Y'ALL DON'T GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT? IT'S JUST AS FAR AS 2 0 1 GOES.
HOW DID IT COME UP WITH 1.5 MILLION FOR A SIDEWALK THAT THEY LINED UP? WELL, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN, IN THE 2023 CIP.
WELL, IT ALSO CAME FROM, THERE WAS A, UH, PAVEMENT CONDITIONING ASSESSMENT.
AND IN THAT ASSESSMENT YOU HAVE HOW MANY ROADWAYS ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR.
YOU COME UP WITH AN AVERAGE, TRY TO HAVE A ANNUAL COST APPROPRIATION TO TRY TO BRING ALL THOSE ROADWAYS INTO THE GREEN.
'CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE RED AND YELLOW.
AND SO IT JUST WASN'T NOTATED FOR YEAH.
AND WITH ME SEEING IT AS A T LIKE T 68, 20 29 MM-HMM
THAT TELLS ME THAT IT WAS PROBABLY PUT ON THE CIP IN 2024.
AND THEN IT WAS KICKED OUT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
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AND THEN THEY DID THE PAVEMENT STUDY AND WE KIND OF CHANGED THE DIRECTION AND SAID WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SIDEWALKS EVERY YEAR.WE'LL JUST DO A RECURRING OKAY.
I DON'T THINK THEY'LL ACTUALLY DROP OFF UNTIL 2029, BUT THERE WE GO.
THEY KEEP ADDING FUNDING TO IT EVERY YEAR, SO MM-HMM
UH, SO T 73 CARL STERN FM 6 85 INTERSECTION, TWO FRONT STREET, THAT'S THAT FUNKY CORNER.
SO THAT'S THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST CORNER HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S, THAT'S ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THAT ONE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE YOU, IT'S ON WEST SIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
NO, NO, IT'S TWO FRONT STREET.
AND THEN CARL STARTS IS THAT SOUTH OF SOUTH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL? YES.
SO, UM, PROJECT T 73 IS, UM, IT WILL PROBABLY BE ON THE MARCH 5TH COUNCIL AGENDA.
IT WAS A PROJECT THAT COUNCIL BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE 6 85 AT CARL STERN.
IT, IT WON'T HAVE FRONT STREET.
THEY, THEY WANT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS OR INVESTIGATE TO DETERMINE A RIGHT TURN LANE BEING ADDED WESTBOUND FROM THE SCHOOL INTERSECTION, UH, FOR TRAFFIC TO MAKE A RIGHT ONTO NORTHBOUND 79.
OH GOD, THEY NEED THAT SO BAD.
IS TRAFFIC IS BACKING UP RIGHT THERE.
IS THAT GONNA BE, BECAUSE KIDS COME OUT OF THAT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THAT ACROSS THERE, THAT IS THEIR CROSSING POINT.
SO THE, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WILL EVALUATE AND THE GRASSY AREA.
PLUS PART OF THE SIDEWALK AND THE FENCE WILL PROBABLY, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOME INNOVATIVE DESIGN TO GET ALL THAT, BECAUSE WHEN THEY JUST DO LIKE A ISLAND THERE OR SOMETHING, OR I DON'T KNOW.
OH, FOR THE KITCHEN FENCE? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S A BAD CROSSING FOR THOSE KIDS ANYWAY.
'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE TIMES I WATCHED FOLKS.
IT'S DEFINITELY A TURN FIVE, A CROSS TURN THAT NEEDS TO IT IS A RIGHT TURN THAT IS NEEDED WHEN, WHEN THE LIGHT CHANGES IT'S YEP.
THEY NEED, THEY NEED AN OVERPASS TO ACROSS.
THE KIDS I WANTED, WELL, THEY DO.
SO, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS I SEE 2026, 500,020 27, 2 MILLION.
BUT YOU NEED THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS.
SO WAS THAT 2026 BUDGETED? IT WAS IT, UH, SO FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED IN 2026.
LET ME LOOK AND SEE IF THE AMOUNT, LET'S SEE WHAT PROJECT NUMBER.
UH, IT WAS AN ALLOCATION OF 500,000 IN 2026.
THAT'S JUST FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE.
IT'S JUST FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE.
KEEP IN MIND THAT BECAUSE UH, CARL STERN TO TOUCHES T DOT ROADWAY, IT PROBABLY WILL REQUIRE, UH, T DOT COORDINATION OF AN AGREEMENT, PLUS THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WILL HAVE TO BE MODIFIED AND RELOCATED.
PLUS THE SCHOOL COORDINATION, UH, TEXT THAT WILL REQUIRE A DRIVEWAY PERMIT, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT.
AND, UM, THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE TURNING ONTO 6 85 OR AT SCHMIDT MAY ALSO REQUIRE A ACCELERATION LANE SO THAT THEY CAN GET UP TO SPEED.
IF ANYONE MAKES A RIGHT TURN OFF OF CARL STERN WHILE THE LIGHT IS RED OKAY.
SO YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THAT.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS.
BUT IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO 1660 NORTH AT 79.
CAN WE PULL THOSE NUMBERS FOR 1660 NORTH AT 79? THE RIGHT TURN LANE THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE.
BECAUSE IF THAT COMES IN AT 1.1 MILLION LIKE I THINK
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IT DID, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY TOUGH SELL FOR 2.5 FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE.I THINK IT WAS AROUND THAT, AROUND THAT WAY.
TOO EXPENSIVE FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA, THEY DIDN'T HAVE DOUBLE THE COST WHOLE ON
BUT DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY HAD TO RELOCATE THE, THE ACTUAL MAED ARM WITH THAT PROJECT.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THE WHOLE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ARM WILL HAVE TO BE SHIFTED FURTHER TO THE NORTH.
SO THAT WILL INCREASE THE COST.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A QUESTION.
WHEN, HEY, WE JUST DID ONE FOR 1.1 MILLION.
WHY IS THIS ONE, TWO AND A HALF? LET ME PULL THAT.
SO INFLATION
SO THAT WE CAN THEN SAY, YES, BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO COST MORE BECAUSE OF X, Y, AND Z BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
AND I'D RATHER HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TO GIVE THEM.
THAT'S WHY IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.
WELL, THAT, THAT TURNING SESSION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THEY HAVE THE SAME AMENDMENTS AS THE, THE ONE THAT WE WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSING THAT COST 0.1.
PLUS ON TOP OF THAT, ARE WE TALKING THE SAME DISTANCE, THE ACCELERATION LANES? PROBABLY ACCELERATION IS GONNA BE A MILLION.
YOU HAVE TO GET THE LAND FROM THE ISD THAT THE ROAD'S GONNA GO ON.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY, THAT'S THE APPROACH WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE THE SAME AS WE DID WITH EXCHANGING LIMMER IS REQUEST FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
THE SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
T 74 HAVE JUSTIFICATION TO COUNCIL.
CHAIR'S GONNA HAVE JUSTIFICATION TO COUNCIL.
SO IF I CAN GET NUMBERS FROM THE 16, 60, 79 RIGHT TURN LANE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, 85, UH, T 74 CONAN DRIVE, CONSTRUCTION COUNTY ESTATES TO REAGAN WELLS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S OVER IN, UH, UH OH, DAMMIT.
BACK IN THAT SUBDIVISION THERE.
THAT'S THE ROAD THAT, UH, MATT WAS SAYING.
UM, THEY DISCOVERED THEY PUT THE ROAD IN WRONG.
AND THE WHOLE ROAD HAS TO BE REDONE.
THAT'S WHAT HE YOU'RE NOT GETTING MUCH ROAD.
THEY BUDGETED 250,000 FOR 26 SOMETHING.
WELL, HOW DO YOU PUT A ROAD? IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FROM, UM, IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE ROAD.
IT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.
IT'S, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE INSPECTORS CALLED ITAC A HALF CUL-DE-SAC? YOU CAN GO.
SO THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT THERE.
THREE STATES DOWN THREE STATES DOWN TO THE CUL-DE-SAC.
THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IS THAT A ROAD, THIS ROAD IS, WAS PUT IN ENGINEERED OR PUT IN WRONG OR SOMETHING.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT POSSIBLE.
BUT 250,000, I HAVE NO IDEA
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD A ROAD FOR $250,000.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER HIM TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE I DRIVE THAT A WHOLE LOT.
AND I KEEP SAYING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHERE I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO THIS WAY.
'CAUSE I'M, I MEAN, UH, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS THERE'S SOME SORT OF ROAD FAILURE IN THERE.
JUST SAY IT'S, AND IT, IT'S A PATCH.
ITS NOT JUST SAY THEY'RE PROBABLY PAVING OVER TOP.
IT MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW, MILLING IT AND JUST RE ASPHALT OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, DO WE LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S AT? 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PLANNED FOR 26 OR YEAH.
WAS ANYTHING BUDGETED IN 26? IF NOT, WE CAN KICK IT TO 27.
WE WOULD ON HERE IT'S BUDGETED TO 26, BUT IT, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY, WE DON'T KNOW.
I I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN BUDGETED.
I MEAN, IF IT HASN'T, I WOULD JUST PUSH IT A YEAR.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS P 74 HOMEOWNER.
ONE OF THE RISK BUDGET DON'T THINK.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S, IT WAS NOT BUDGETED.
LET'S, UH, LET'S KICK IT TO, UH, 27 THEN.
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UH, T 75 WEST METCALF RECONSTRUCTION.FOR COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH THEIR DOWNTOWN PLAN.
UH, T 76 CARL STERN WIDENING FROM FRONT STREET TO FM 1660 SOUTH.
SO THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL TO THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
SO FROM FRONT STREET THERE AT NADINE JOHNSON, I THINK.
NADINE JOHNSON TO THE CHURCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CHURCH.
I WOULD SAY 31 IF THE SCHEDULE YEAH.
I THINK 30 ONE'S THE WAY TO GO.
WELL, PART OF IT, I THINK IS ALREADY, THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THE WEIRDEST STREETS.
SOME, SOME OF IT'S WIDE, SOME OF IT ISN'T.
THAT'S A WEIRD STREET SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE.
CARL STERN WIDENING FROM 1660 TO END.
THAT'S BASICALLY THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION THROUGH, WHICH IS EVEN SMALLER THAN YEAH.
BUT THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE LAND SET ASIDE.
I WOULD ALMOST SAY PUT THAT AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY JUST BLAST THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION WILL BE DONE BY THEN AND THEN JUST EXTEND IT OUT.
UH, T 78 SCHOOL DRIVE SLASH EXCHANGE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT ISN'T THAT, ISN'T THAT THE ROAD THERE AT THE, AT THE OLD SCHOOL? YEAH.
THAT'S THE ROAD THAT THEY, THAT'S THE ROAD WITH ALL THE SPEED.
THAT'S THE ROAD WITH ALL THE SPEED BUMPS.
THAT'S TECHNICALLY A DRIVEWAY, BUT EXACTLY.
THEY WANT THE CITY TO TAKE IT OVER.
THAT'S WHERE IT GOES UP TO THE FIRE STATION? UH, NO, IT GOES FROM LIMMER LOOP ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN KIND OF AROUND BENDS AROUND THE SOUTH OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
OH, I WAS THINKING OTHER SCHOOL.
I KNOW WHERE THE, I KNOW WHERE THE, OKAY, I GOTCHA.
AND IT'S GOT 8,000 SPEED BUMPS AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO TURN.
I WAS THINKING THE WRONG SCHOOL.
I WOULD, I WOULD GO WITH THAT ALL DAY LONG.
SO, UM, WELL AGAIN, I'M SEEING A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUDGETED IN 26.
WE HAD REQUESTED THEY DO A STUDY TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE WORTH THE CITY TAKING IT OVER.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS DONE.
DO THAT GET BUDGETED? NO, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN HERE FOR.
THE LAST THING OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, THE LAST THING THAT WAS BUDGETED WAS, UH, WHERE DID IT GO? I AM NOT SURE IF THESE ARE IN THE SAME ORDER.
ARE THESE IN THE SAME ORDER? YEAH.
SO EVERYTHING AFTER THAT ON OUR LIST HAS BEEN NOT FUNDED.
SO, SO YEAH, I GUESS NEVERMIND THEN.
BECAUSE 70 IS CARL STERN AND 6 85.
AND THAT WAS ALSO NOT MATCHING UP.
UH, YEAH, THAT'D BE T 71 OR T 73.
OH, I DIDN'T MOVE EVERYTHING UP.
WELL WANNA TAKE A BREAK? UH OH, WE HAVEN'T FINISHED STREETS.
WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH STREETS.
I SAY LET'S PUT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND 'CAUSE IT'S A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN 27.
SEE IF THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL HAS ANY INTEREST IN MAKING THAT A THROUGH STREET RATHER THAN SPEED BUMPS.
SO THAT MONEY WASN'T BUDGETED.
UH, T 79 LIVE OAK FROM END TO ED SCHMIDT.
WHERE? OH, THAT, THAT'S GOTTA BE EXCHANGE.
WHAT'S I WAS GONNA SAY, WHERE'S
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END? THAT'S GOTTA BE EXCHANGE UNLESS, COULD IT, COULD IT BE, WOULD THAT NOT BE WHERE IT ENDS? RIGHT NOW? LIVE OAK WEST.THAT'S, THAT'S GOTTA BE EXCHANGE LIVE OAK AT EXCHANGE IS WHERE IT ENDS.
'CAUSE IT ENDS FURTHER IN LIKE YOU KEEP GOING.
SO IT ENDS EQUIVALENTLY WITH THE REAR PROPERTY LINE OF THE CHURCH.
SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NEW, FAIRLY NEW ROAD THEY JUST PUT IN FROM EXCHANGE OUT TO ED SMITH? YEAH.
THE ONE THAT'S NOT LINED UP PROPERLY.
BUT THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT OF FIXING.
YEAH, THAT'S THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S GONNA FIX THAT.
SO THIS ONE, T 79, I'M SEEING THAT AS 2030.
WHY IS IT IN RED? I HAVE NO IDEA.
PROBABLY IF I HAD TO GUESS THAT IT'S HELD UP BECAUSE OF DEVELOPER.
UM, I GUESS COUNCIL HAS STAGGERED THESE UP THE WAY THEY WANT IT.
DIDN'T WE DO THAT? DIDN'T WE WHEN WE DIVIDED OLD TOWN UP THAT WE DIVIDED IT UP LIKE THAT? OH, OH GOD.
SO THEY COULD DO ONE SECTION, RIGHT? WE DID FOUR.
SO I WOULD SAY FOR OLD TOWN STREETS, PHASE 1, 2, 3, 4 MM-HMM
WE PUSH ALL OF THAT OUT TO 31.
SO THAT COUNCIL CAN THEN GO, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH THEY SAID IN THEIR QUADRANT PLAN, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT THESE THREE NORTH SOUTH STREETS.
AND THEN WE WANT TO DO THESE STREETS AND THEY WANT TO DO IT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER, DIFFERENT SEQUENCE, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCOPE.
RIGHT? BECAUSE WE, WE JUST GUESSED RIGHT.
SO LET'S HANG ONTO THOSE PROJECTS, PUSH IT ALL OUT TO 31 AND THEN THEY CAN REALLOCATE, RENAME THEM, WHATEVER.
AND THEY CAN MOVE THEM UP IF THEY WANNA MOVE 'EM UP.
AND, AND THEN THEY CAN MOVE IT TO FIT HOW THEY WANT TO DO OLD TOWN, AND THEY'RE NOT BUSTING IT INTO THE QUARTERS LIKE WE DID.
WELL, I SENSE ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR THEY ASKED IF THEY SAID THEY WANTED US TO DIVIDE IT UP.
AND THEN I, I KNOW GET THAT, YEAH.
IN THE, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, THEY'VE HAD MEETINGS ABOUT ONE WAY AND RES STRIPING.
AND IT'S LIKE PARALLEL PARKING.
T 84 EXCHANGE BOULEVARD FROM US 79 TO LIVE OAK AND FROM LIVE OAK TO HOLLAND.
THAT'S GOTTA BE, I'M SHOWING THAT IN 29.
NOW HE'S HAULING DOWN BY THE, THAT'S THE LAST ONE BEFORE THE SCHOOL.
WELL, I THOUGHT I'M OKAY WITH THOSE.
AND JUST REAL QUICKLY, WHAT DID Y'ALL SAY WITH T 79 KI AS IS, UH, 20 30 79 WAS GONNA BE 2030.
UH, T 85 WESTBOUND TURN LANE, US 79 AT 1660 NORTH.
OH YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR YEARS.
THE PAWN SHOP DIDN'T LIKE THE PAWN SHOP.
DIDN'T LIKE IT CURRENTLY WE'RE IT'S PARKED IN 2030.
WANNA LEAVE IT THERE? YEAH, I WOULD, WHERE'S THAT? YEAH, THAT FARM SHOP.
I KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT, BUT WHAT, WHATEVER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING, PUTTING A WESTBOUND TURN.
THAT IT, I DIDN'T READ THAT AWAY TO ME.
WHY DOESN'T THE PAWN SHOP LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM OUT.
ARE GONNA BE TOO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING NEXT, RYAN.
YEAH, BUT IT'S BASICALLY GONNA TAKE OUT THE WHOLE SOUTH SIDE OF THEIR, THEIR LOT.
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EVEN THERE'S LIKE NOTHING THERE.IT'S JUST PAVED AND THEY STICK BICYCLES OUT THERE OR SOMETHING.
UM, T 86 INTERSECTION STUDY AT CHRIS KELLY, ED SCHMIDT AND US 79.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT FOR? THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO A STUDY, I HOPE THEY'RE GONNA STUDY AND ASK TO PUT A BRIDGE OVER IT OR SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT, UH, BRIDGE WHEN INTERSECTION AT CHRIS COUNTY.
WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT? UH, WHAT YEAR IS THAT FOR? I, I'VE GOT IT FOR 2030 ON HERE.
IT'S XX ON THE SPREADSHEET ON, RIGHT, RIGHT.
NO, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE IN 2030 ON MINE.
WELL, YOU HAVE THE TRYING TRACK THAT GOES THROUGH THERE AND THAT INTERSECTION IS JUST ALL DOWN.
I, I THINK IT'S A NEW STUDY IS WARRANTED FOR THAT AREA THOUGH.
I, I THINK A NEW STUDY IS WARRANTED, BUT I KNOW WITHOUT ANY SORT OF MY VOTE ALREADY PLAN FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, I, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA DO A KENNY FORT AND GO UNDER THE TRACKS, RIGHT? NO.
SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS ON A WISHLIST OR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT.
DO THEY WANT, WELL, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT EVENTUALLY.
SAY YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT A STUDY OF HOW MANY ACCIDENTS ARE THERE.
JUST GO PARK, GO SIT THERE AND YOU'LL SEE IT
WILL THEY ARE, WILL THEY NOT BE, I I WOULD GO FOR THIS SOONER THAN LATER.
I, THE, UH, INTERSECTION STUDY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE, OR THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY IS.
I I'M ASSUMING THAT IF THEY'RE DOING AN A STUDY ON IT, IT'D BE FOR SAFETY.
LIKE WHAT ELSE ARE YOU STUDYING AT THAT POINT? EXACTLY.
THE ABILITY TO GET FIRST RESPONDERS ACROSS.
WELL, I THINK THIS IS A PRIORITY ON, ON ALL DAY LONG.
AND ALSO TOO, BECAUSE WHERE THE, YOU MOVED TO THEATER ONE, THEY PUT THAT, UM, THOSE TURN LANES, UHHUH CROSSING 79, UHHUH,
THEY, YEAH, I THINK WE REALLY DO.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THAT ONE OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER BECAUSE I, THAT IS CAUSING A PROBLEM.
I THOUGHT COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, NOT GOING ON 79, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SLOWED DOWN TO MAKE THAT TURN THERE.
UM, BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD CIP WORKSHOPS, SO NOT A YEAR IN THE LOBBY.
AND THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
AND, AND THAT IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN OVERPASS OR NOT.
BUT, WELL, HERE, HERE'S THE PART THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT IT.
I GET, I GET THAT THEY WANT TO DO AN INTERSECTION STUDY, BUT SERIOUSLY, $4 MILLION FOR AN INTERSECTION STUDY.
SEE, LIKE LAST YEAR THE COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT IT THAT THEY HAD A PROBLEM WITH U UP, HAD A PROBLEM PUTTING AN OVERPASS THROUGH THERE.
BUT IF IT'S A SAFETY STUDY, THEN IT SHOULD BE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SAFER? MAKE IT BETTER.
NOT A DESIGN PROCESS FOR $4 MILLION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A $40 MILLION PROJECT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.
THAT PRICE TAG IS WHY I'M LIKE WHOLE LOT.
I IMAGINE IT'S GONNA BE MORE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING REGULAR INTERSECTION, YOU'RE ADDING A RAILROAD TO IT.
TO, TO DO ANY SORT OF CONSTRUCTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE DOING A STUDY, WHICH IS CIP IS THAT'S A LOT MONEY.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A STUDY.
I CAN GO OUT AND STUDY IT FOR A MILLION
I DON'T, I I I AGREE THAT THE STUDY SHOULD BE MOVED UP.
WHAT I, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE PRICE TAG.
THAT THAT SOUNDS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HIGH.
BECAUSE NONE OF OUR OTHER FEASIBILITY STUDIES OR ANY, I MEAN, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER CAME IN UNDER THAT.
SO WHAT WAS THE DECISION? SO ON THE LAST ONE, T 86 MM-HMM
I THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED UP.
I WAS GONNA SAY 27, BUT I CAN HANDLE, BUT THAT PRICE TAG IS JUST,
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HUH? I HAVE A, I'D TO KNOW.I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S GETTING US.
YEAH, THAT WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE? YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY.
WHAT'S THAT GONNA INCLUDE? THAT'S MY ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, ARE WE, I AGREE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE SOONER THAN LATER, BUT YEAH.
CAN WE PULL THAT PROJECT UP, UP ON THE OUT IT HAS, YEAH.
IF THEY'RE GONNA FOUR, THREE, AND 59, GO OUT THERE AND SIT OUT THERE AND COUNT CARS.
THEY DID A FLOW STUDY OF, AND THE SIGNAL TIMINGS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF ON 79 THROUGH HUDU.
I THINK I, SO WE'RE GONNA PULL UP THE MAP THAT SHOWS THERE'S THREE ROAD, THOSE THREE ROADWAYS ARE CONNECTED OR, UH, ASSOCIATED, UM, PROJECTS NUMBER FOUR, THREE AND 59 UHHUH.
UM, SO ON THE MAP, ANY PROJECT THAT REQUIRES YEP.
IT GOES FROM WHERE TO WHERE, AGAIN, CARL STERN NORTH TO 79.
SO FROM WHERE THE CVS IS, THAT'S MAYBE A HALF A MILE.
THE RAILROAD, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT WHERE WE RIGHT HAND TURN.
WHAT ARE THEY STUDYING? I, I DON'T THINK THE $4 MILLION IS THE STUDY.
$4 MILLION IS THE, THAT WOULD BE IN INCLUDING THE, THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S THE THING.
WE JUST, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST 10 MINUTES.
WHAT IS, WHAT DOES $4 MILLION INCLUDE? BECAUSE IT SAYS, SO LET'S PUT IT, LET'S PULL UP THAT LOCATION UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.
AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT INTERSECTION HAS A LOT OF, UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST OPPOSITE THE PROJECT FROM THE SCHOOL.
IT IT GOES INTO THE, OR COMING OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? NO, NO.
IT'S COMING FROM CARL STERN NORTH.
WHICH STREET IS IT? GO DOWN TO THE, THERE YOU GO.
RIGHT THERE IT GOES FROM CARL STERN UP TO 79.
BUT THERE ARE, THERE'S A SCHOOL, REMEMBER? SO THAT USED TO BE THE OLD 6 85.
AND TDOT HAS SOME CONDUIT AND OTHER UTILITIES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE RELOCATED AND EITHER OKAY.
BUT AGAIN, BUT AGAIN, RELOCATED FOR WHAT, WHAT IS BEING BUILT IN THAT CORRIDOR MM-HMM
SO REMEMBER THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES FOR THE RIGHT TURN LANE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE RIGHT TURN LANE COST.
THAT'S WHY IT'S 2.5 MILLION INSTEAD OF 1.1.
SO THIS IS A 4 MILLION FOR A STUDY, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE STUDYING.
THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO COLLECT TRAFFIC AND STUDY THAT.
THEY NEED TO WIDEN THAT PART OF THE ROAD.
OR THEY COME BACK AND SAY, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE WE JUST, UM, ASK ALBERTA TO YES.
I MEAN WE, WE REDUCE THE FUNDS.
WE, WE WANT, WE WANT THE STUDY MOVED UP.
BUT BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE $4 MILLION? I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S FOUR.
WE DON'T, THE ONLY THING IT COULD BE STUDYING THERE, WE ASK TECH.TO HELP PIPELINE.
THE ONLY TWO, THE ONLY TWO THINGS THEY COULD BE STUDYING ALONG THAT SECTION ARE THE TWO ENTRANCES INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY'VE GOT ONE OF 'EM BLOCKED.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING ALONG THERE THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANYTHING TO BE STUDIED IS THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
AND THAT COULD BE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK.
SO HEY, ALSO CREATE PART OR ALLOCATE FOR PARKING DESIGN.
WE'LL FIND OUT AGAIN, WE'LL FIND OUT.
WE, LET'S JUST GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT.
THAT, THAT ONE AT 50 MILES AN HOUR.
ONE NOT PUT WAY OUTTA LEFT FIELD, LET ACROSS THERE.
BECAUSE THE WAY I READ IT IS THAT, LET'S WAIT.
INTERSECTION OF 79 ALBERT EVERY STOPS ON THAT YELLOW.
SO WE WANNA MOVE IT INTO 28 WAITING ON THE ALBERTA.
SO T 86 MOVES TO 28, PUT A ROUNDABOUT ON 79
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THEY MOVE IT TO, THEY'RE GONNA MOVE IT TO 28.
YOU DON'T, WHAT DO, I CAN TAKE YOU TO KANSAS AND SHOW YOU WHERE THEY'VE DONE THAT ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
WHAT TEXT STEP MIGHT LET US, HOW'D THAT TURN OUT THERE? LET, LET'S, HOW'D THAT TURN OUT? SEMI-TRUCKS.
LET, LET'S, SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MOVE T 86 TO 2028 AND CONSIDERATION FOR REDUCING THE FUNDING.
AND CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT'S STEPS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN, WE CAN, THEY COULD PROVE THE FUNDING.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR.
YEAH, BOTH, I GUESS IN THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, LET'S, LET'S GET THE, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AT, AT THE BREAK TIME, BUT BEFORE WE TAKE BREAK, UM, WE'RE GONNA JUST SHOW THE, UM, A DA TRANSITION PLAN.
AND JUST PUT, ALLOCATE THOSE, THAT FUNDING AS A PART OF THE STREET.
SO IN THE PRESENTATION FOR CITY COUNCIL, THE, UH, CONSULTANT, WHICH WAS KIMBERLY HORNE, UHHUH
BUT THE, IN THIS, UH, APPROVED COUNCIL ITEM, THEY REMOVE THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT.
SO THESE DOLLARS FOR SIDEWALK CORRIDORS, THE 500,000 IS NOT MAINTENANCE TYPE SIDEWALKS.
WELL THEN, AND SEE THIS, THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAD.
WELL, WELL, THAT'S THE DECISION TO MAKE IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE T OH ONE.
AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR, 27, 28, AND 29 OF THE 650, 2,713,000 EACH YEAR AFTER THAT.
BUT THAT'S FOR BUILDINGS, TRAIL PARKS.
SO IF WE PUT THAT ON THE CIP UNDER SIDEWALKS, THEN THE TEXAS AG IS GONNA COME DOWN AND GIVE US ALL SHINY BRACELETS.
AND WHY, WHY ARE YOU, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT? BUT YOU'RE SAYING BUT FOR THE SIDEWALK, BUT THE OTHER COMPONENTS, THE BUILDING AND TRAIL.
YEAH, THE BUILDING AND TRAILS HAS TO BE A SEPARATE LINE ON THE CIP P.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT, SO SINCE THIS CAME IN, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO THE FACILITIES FOR THE BUILDING MM-HMM
AND THE PARKS FOR THE PARK COMPONENTS.
IN THOSE APPROPRIATE FISCAL YEARS.
AND APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS ACCORDINGLY.
AND THEN THE TRAIL AND THE SIDEWALK COMPONENTS WE CAN DO WITH THIS STREET COMPONENT.
RIGHT? NOW, THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, I GUESS FOR LEGAL WOULD THEN BE, CAN WE DO IMPROVEMENTS OR MAINTENANCE OFF OF CIP? BECAUSE IF THIS IS $500,000 TO PUT A CURB CUT ON A CORNER THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE, ISN'T THAT RENOVATION NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION? NO.
SO, UM, UNDER, UNDER TITLE TWO, UH, THE A DA, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE TO PROVIDE THESE, UH, FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS.
SO AT EVERY TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THE CURB RAMPS WERE REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO AUDIBLE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS.
SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED, UH, MAINTENANCE WHEN YOU HAVE EITHER RECONSTRUCTION OR REHABILITATION.
THOSE CAN BE, UH, YOU CAN ALLOCATE FUNDING FROM YOUR CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR THOSE.
WHEN THE EXPENDITURES MEET THAT, UH, OKAY.
DOLLAR AMOUNT AS YOU ALLOCATE UNDER CIP, WHICH IS 50,000 OR MORE.
SO IF WE DO, IF WE DO THE SIDEWALK UPGRADES TO ADA A COMPLIANCE MM-HMM
OR, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE'RE FORCING COUNSEL TO SAY, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO DO 500,000 FOR SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE AREN'T SIDEWALKS? OR DO YOU WANT TO DO 500,000 FOR A DA COMPLIANCE AND THEY'RE GONNA PICK THE ADA COMPLIANCE.
COURSE THEY'RE GONNA PICK THE AADA A COMPLIANCE, WHICH MEANS THOSE SIDEWALKS THAT AREN'T THERE AREN'T EVER GONNA GET BUILT OR GET PUSHED BACK FURTHER.
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THE OR, OR YOU CAN, SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND, HAVING SEEN THIS AT COUNCIL, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT AN A DA COMPLIANCE LINE IN THE CIP AND WE PUT A DA IN THERE.WE PUT A DA PARKS COMPLIANCE, WE PUT A DA TRAILS COMPLIANCE, AND THEN WE'RE GETTING POLITICAL GUYS.
AND THEN, SO YOU'RE MAKING THEM CHOOSE, AND THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO FUND ON ALL OF THESE THINGS.
THEY'RE GONNA GETTING WITHOUT, THEY'RE GONNA LIKE, TAKE CRAP OFF.
OH, WE'LL DO 500 FOR A DA AND THEN NO NEW SIDEWALKS GET BUILT.
BUT IT'S NOT A SINGLE LINE ITEM.
THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND TAKE THE TWO BACK TOGETHER.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SAID, SO THEN THEY COULD, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO OF THE, UM, FISCAL YEAR 27.
THEY ALLOCATE, THEY COULD DO, UH, SIX, 600,000 ON BUILDINGS TRAIL AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON SIDEWALK CORRIDORS FOR A DA.
BUT THEY COULD STILL THEN DO, DO THE SIDEWALKS.
SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE AREN'T ONE.
SUB OR THEY MIGHT JUST SAY SALE.
EITHER WAY THEY COULD YOU MAKE THEM CHOOSE.
SO, SO FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR, THEN, LET'S HEAR A RECOMMENDATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, 28, AND 29 FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, I THINK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? PUT IT IN UNDER BUILDINGS, UNDER FACILITIES.
SO WE WOULD ADD WHAT IT, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? F ZERO NINE? YEAH, F ZERO NINE.
SO THAT NUMBER WOULD BE F ZERO NINE DASH 2027 A DA, UH, A DA COMPLIANCE.
AND YOU WOULD CUT DASH BUILDINGS AND YOU CUT IT IN HALF.
UH, YOU KNOW WHAT DO AADA, A COMPLIANCE DASH BUILDING SLASH TRAIL.
THAT WAY IT MATCHES UP WITH WHAT THEY APPROVED.
SO WE CAN LEAVE THAT AT 6 52 AND 27.
AND THEN WE PUT 6 52 IN 27 FOR THAT LINE.
AND THEN WE DO T OH ONE, I'M SORRY.
THEN WE DO P UH, P 74 DASH 2028 A DA COMPLIANCE DASH PARKS.
AND WE DO THE SEVEN 13 AND 28 AND THE SEVEN, 13 AND 29.
AND THEN WE GO TO T 87 DASH 2027.
AND THAT WOULD BE A DA COMPLIANCE DASH SIDEWALK, CORRIDORS.
AND THEN WE PUT, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT LAST ONE? UH, SO THAT WOULD BE T 87 DASH 2027 AADA, A COMPLIANCE DASH SIDEWALK CORRIDORS.
AND THEN WE PUT 500,000 IN 27 AND IN 28 AND IN 29 500,000 EACH YEAR.
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A BREAK? UH, JUST A SHORT BREAK.WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK OR 10 MINUTE BREAK.
WHICH FIVE? MAKE A FIVE? YEAH.
WE DID THE PARKS, UM, OFF, OFF ON STREET TRAILS.
WE DID THE TREAT STREETS AND A DA AND WE'RE MOVING TO, UH, DRAINAGE.
SO, UH, WITH THE, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER DRAIN OFF, UM, AND RUNOFF, WE COMPLETED THE MASTER PLAN IN 2024.
THE PROJECTS THAT MANNY HAS UP THAT ARE ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET ARE FOR DRAINAGE ONLY ONE OF THEM MOVED FORWARD, WHICH STARTED OUT AS A STUDY, UM, FOR CITIZENS.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF TAN PROJECT.
IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THERE ARE NO OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS, UM, IN THE QUEUE.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, CORRELATE THESE WITH, THERE'S A MAP EXHIBIT.
SO WE HAVE A MAP EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS WHERE ALL OF THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS ARE.
THERE IS ALSO IN THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, A REGIONAL, REGIONAL PONDS THAT IF THE, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE REGIONAL PONDS FOR THE CITY, WE REALLY SHOULD TRY TO GET THEM IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE DEVELOPERS START DEVELOP, UH, DEDICATING THE LAND FOR THOSE AS WE RECEIVE, UH, WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND THE
WE HAVE FUNDING THAT COMES FROM, UH, DEVELOPERS THAT CAN PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE REPORT TO PROVIDE FUNDING TOWARDS THE REGIONAL DETENTION, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE AND, UM, WE CAN DO DRAINAGE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO WATER AFTER THAT.
I SHOULD HAVE DID THIS WHILE I WAS ON THE BREAK.
LET'S GO TO THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO YOU GET THAT? HOW MANY YEARS DID TEAMS YOU GET THAT? FOUND HIM? FOUND HIM NINE AND A HALF YEARS.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA TAKE NINE AND A HALF YEARS TO DO IT OFF WITH THE PHONE.
HUH? I FOUGHT THE C SHOULD I DO THIS SIDE BY SIDE ON YOUR MORALS? THE EXCEL SHEET AND THE YEAH.
OR JUST GO BACK AND FORTH? YEP.
SO DO ONE, YOU SAID HE IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, SO D TWO.
DO ONE IS, THAT DOESN'T, SO THAT DRAINAGE, THAT DOESN'T THE DRAIN THE DO ONE IS FROM A, UM, MULTIPLE CITIZEN CONCERNS.
AND IT STARTED OUT AS A STUDY IN 2024.
AND THE CONSULTANT, UM, DID SOME INVESTIGATION AND FIELD STUDY TO DETERMINE THERE WERE THREE, UH, THREE PHASED APPROACH THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE REPAIRS IN THE LEGENDS.
AND IN 2025, THEY COMPLETED THE DESIGN.
AND THEN WE WENT TO CONSTRUCTION LATTER PART OF 2025 S.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT IN THE, UH, DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
IT WAS ALREADY A PROJECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.
SO DO YOU SEE WHERE DO ONE IS ON THIS MAP? IT, IT WON'T BE SHOWN ON THERE.
ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS A DO ONE ON THIS MAP AND THAT'S, OH, THAT'S NOT LEGENDS OR HU THAT'S NOT LEGENDS OR HUDDLE.
I WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT REALLY, I, I BELIEVE DO ONE IS REALLY DO
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TWO.UH, I DON'T THINK SO OVER HERE.
SO DO TWO IS A SOUTH ORK MUSTANG CREEK.
THAT DOESN'T MATCH THIS TABLE.
THE, THE STARS ON THE MAP ARE DESIGNATED AS DS AND THEY DO NOT MATCH THE SPREADSHEET.
IT DOESN'T, SO THEY'RE ALL REGIONAL DETENTION.
SO I, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, EVERYONE LOOKING AT THIS MAP, EVERYONE LOOKING AT THIS MAP SHOULD IGNORE THE, THE NUMBER D OH FOUR D OH THREE.
YEAH, THE RED STARS IGNORE 'EM.
UM, THAT WILL HAVE THE MAP NUMBER, THE CORRECT NUMBER, BUT IT'LL ALSO HAVE SOME CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT EXPLAINS THE PROJECTS.
I THINK THIS DOES HAVE THE RIGHT MAP NUMBERS.
'CAUSE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN SOME MORE, YOU'LL SEE CO FOUR, WHICH IS PROJECT DO TWO, WHICH IF YOU EXPAND YEAH, EXPAND THAT OUT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP MM-HMM
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE RED STAR DS ON THE MAP, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO IGNORE THOSE.
I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE SMALL D THE BIG DS ARE THOSE DETENTION PONDS, I BELIEVE.
STORMWATER PONDS, THEY DON'T MATCH UP WITH PROJECT DO ONE.
BUT CO FOUR IS PROJECT D ZERO TWO.
LET DROP THIS IN HERE IN CASE YOU NEED IT.
WHAT IS PROJECT LIKE IN CASE THEY TWO? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS WHERE'S THE SCOPE IS IN HERE? CO FOUR IS BRUSHY CREEK, TRIBUTARY 7.1.
PRIMARY CONVEYANCE IMPROVEMENT.
AND AS I REMEMBER, THIS WAS CONSIDERED A LOW HANGING FRUIT DRAINAGE PROJECT.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT FOR YOU GUYS? WHO DID THIS LAST YEAR? DO WE RECALL WHY? SAY THAT AGAIN? IT WAS LOW HANGING FRUIT DRAINAGE PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THAT IT WASN'T LIKE THE, UH, COTTONWOOD CREEK ONE WHERE YOU HAD TO DO ALL THE DIFFERENT PHASES.
RIGHT? THAT, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND I THINK COTTONWOOD CREEK WE DID IN WHAT, THREE STAGES? UH, AT LEAST.
YEAH, I SEE THE THREE OR FOUR.
AND, AND THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR APP IS WEIRD.
WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE DARK PURPLE, DARK BLUE, WHATEVER IT IS, LINES RIGHT NOW.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS CO FOUR, WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR YES.
CO FOUR IS THE FIRST ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THAT'S BEHIND THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, WHAT YEAR IS THAT FOR? WELL, WE HAVE 5.3 MILLION SCHEDULED FOR 26.
IF THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUDGETED, THEN WE SHOULD PUSH IT TO 2027.
WHY WAS THAT MOVED IN? HUH? WHY, WHY WAS THAT MOVED IN FOR 2026? I'M SAYING LAST, I'VE GOT LAST YEAR'S SPREADSHEET AND IT WAS 2026.
IF IT WASN'T BUDGETED BY COUNSEL, THEN WE TRIED TO PUT IT ON 2027 BUDGET.
NOW WE'RE GOING OVER TO COTTONWOOD.
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A, B, AND C.AND THIS HAS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 PROJECTS.
I DON'T REMEMBER US DOING THAT DETAIL.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT MANY EITHER.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
SO, UH, DO THREE IS DESIGN OF THE COTTONWOOD CREEK PRIMARY CONVEYANCE SOUTHERN IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT DASHED LINE.
UH, CAN WE SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT? HERE COMES C3 B.
YEAH, THERE'S CO THREE B AND THEN CO THREE A.
SO HE DID PUT THE DASH LINES IN THERE TO SHOW WHERE A ANDS B BEGINS.
DO YOU SEE THE DASH LINES? TONY? BASICALLY NORTH OF LIER.
YOU TALKING ABOUT GROOVY? ALL RIGHT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE CALLING ME OUT.
OKAY, SO THIS HAS 8 MILLION IN DESIGN FOR DO THREE.
UH, PROJECT DO THREE, WHICH IS CO THREE C.
AND WHAT, WHICH IS SOUTH OF 79.
RIGHT? SO YOU'LL NOTICE DO THREE IN THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, THE TOTAL PROJECTED CONSTRUCTION COST WILL BE CONSTRUCTION PLUS DESIGN WILL BE 46 MILLION.
THEN IT'S, YEAH, AT THESE SEVEN POINT THREES.
SO GETTING THIS THING STARTED IN 27 FOR DESIGN, BUT 8 MILLION FOR DESIGN.
THAT'S A LITTLE IN THE, THAT'S A, FROM THIS TABLE, THEY ALL THE, UM, CONSULTANT PUT ENGINEERING AND SURVEY AT 3.9 MILLION.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO, UH, INCREASE THE COST.
OKAY, SO INSTEAD OF 8.1, 3, 3, 5, 8, 4, AND 27, LET'S PUT 4 8, 3, 4, 0, 0, 0.
3, 5, 8, 4, 2, 4, 8, 3, 4, 0, 0, 0.
SO YOU WANT TO MAKE REDUCE IT? YEP.
WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT TO 4 8 3 4 0 0 0 4 8, 3 4.
AND THAT SAME NUMBER WILL GO IN 27.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, THESE DRAINAGE, UM, ESPECIALLY THE DETENTION PONDS WILL REQUIRE RIGHT AWAY.
SO IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE DON'T, UH, RECEIVE IT AS A DEDICATION, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME PURCHASES.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME OF THOSE COSTS TOO, IS RIGHT AWAY.
WELL, IF, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT ON THE, THE C OH THREE PROJECT, A, B, AND C, WE DIDN'T NEED TO NEED TO ACQUIRE ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS FLOODPLAIN AND IT WAS ALREADY PART OF OUR WHAT? WATERSHED MANAGEMENT OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT.
I THINK I, I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY FROM OVER A YEAR AGO.
SO YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN IN 28, AND THEN THE FIRST PROJECT IS DO FOUR,
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WHICH IS PHASE ONE.DO FIVE, FIVE IS IN 30 D, SIX IS IN 31.
CARRY THAT TREND OUT FACE BY FACE.
AND THEN D 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 13 WOULD ALL BE IN 31 BECAUSE WE CAN'T PROJECT OUT FURTHER.
I MEAN, WE CAN, BUT ON HERE THEY HAVE IT TO 37.
THEY HAVE IT ONE YEAR AT A TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MATT DID.
MATT, MATT WENT IN AND HE TOLD ME, OH YEAH, I'VE GOT IT PROJECTED OUT AS LONG AS THESE PROJECTS TAKE.
OKAY, SO D SEVEN THROUGH OH 13 IS WHAT YEAR? FOR THE LAST 31.
HE HAD LIKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HE WAS WITH.
MANNY, CAN YOU MOVE IT UP? LEMME THINK.
SO I'M SORRY GUYS, I THINK I MISSED IT.
SO D THREE THROUGH D, DO THREE THROUGH D 13.
I THOUGHT YOU HAD ME REDUCE THAT TO 4.88.
DOESN'T SHOW IT ON HERE, BUT, AND THEN D FOUR.
DO SIX THROUGH D 13, ALL GOING 31.
THAT IS THE RED STAR ON THE MAP, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, THAT'S A $21 MILLION PRICE TAG.
AND IT'S, I DON'T SEE IT YEARED OUT.
IT'LL BE DEVELOPER MAYBE RIGHT AWAY, ET CETERA.
UH, DID YOU GET D 14? YEAH, D 14 IS FY 31.
THAT ONE I SEE IN 29 AND 30 ON MINE.
29 FOR DESIGN, 30 FOR CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY REALISTIC.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP AND YEP.
SO WE'RE LOOKING, THIS IS PROJECT CO THREE B.
AND WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH CO THREE C.
'CAUSE CO THREE C, WE'VE GOT 13 PHASES.
SO 2031, I'M THINKING 2031
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BECAUSE AS THEY BUILD MORE S**T, MORE WATER'S GONNA START.WORKS BETTER GO SOMEWHERE IS PROJECT C ZERO TWO.
ENTER STUFF'S GONNA, SO THAT'S NORTH OF SCROLLING UP WATER SOMEWHERE.
'CAUSE YOU'RE MOVING THE NATURAL FLOW.
WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
IT'S NOT GOING RIGHT INTO THE GROUND.
THAT ONE SPOTS THAT ARE ALREADY GETTING FED THIS ONE.
THAT'S C ZERO TWO NATURAL CREEKS AND STUFF START TO FLOOD OUT OVER, THAT'S LIKE RIGHT WHERE THAT THE CHURCHES CUTTING RIGHT BEHIND IT.
CUTTING THROUGH MUSTANG CREEK.
OKAY, WELL THAT IS 2.5 MILLION.
AND I SEE THIS AS 2.5 MILLION IN 26.
WAS THAT BUDGETED? NO, NO DRAINAGE BUDGET.
OKAY, THEN LET'S PUSH THAT TO 27.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BUDGETED ANYTHING FOR, ALL RIGHT.
NEXT IS HAVE NOT D 17 COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.
THAT WILL NOT BE SHOWN ON THE MAP.
I DO HAVE SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IT FOR NEXT YEAR SINCE NONE OF THE DRAINAGE GOT APPROVED.
I HAVE, WE MIGHT NEED THAT SOONER THAN WELL THEN LATER.
IT, I'VE GOT IT SCHEDULED IN 27.
THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE, THE THING THAT GETS APPROVED.
WE GET ANOTHER RUBY, A FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM FLOODS, LIKE THE AMOUNT WOULD BE THAT KIND OF LOOKING AT THREE, WHAT KIND OF FLOODING WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? DUNNO, WHAT IF THEY DON'T APPROVE ANY OF THE DRAIN INSTEAD OF 570 FLOOD.
SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY ALERT EVERYBODY I'M SHOWING GET LITERALLY EVERY TOWN HAD, I'M SORRY.
WHAT AMOUNT ARE YOU SHOWING? I'M SHOWING 1.3075.
MISS MISSISSIPPI, BACK TO FAULT.
WELL, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE IN GOING WORK.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.
TAKE THAT COST AND INCREASE IT.
I THINK WE DID BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE AT ONE GOING ACROSS, YOU SAID 1.3.
GO OUT AND LOOK FOR DEVELOPER.
D 18, OLD TOWN HUDDLE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TWO.
WILL YOU PUT THE SPREAD STRAIGHT BACK PLEASE? UH, THANK YOU THINK, I THINK WE NEED THE MAP.
OH, WELL WE MAY NEED THE MAP NOW.
IT'S THE GREEN SECTION DOWN THERE.
THE GREEN SECTION RIGHT THERE.
OH, SO THAT'S JUST THE REGION.
UH, THAT IS 1.7 AND I'M SHOWING IT IN 29.
AND WHAT IS IT A STUDY OR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? I REALLY THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOONER.
I REALLY THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE STREETS.
WHICH WOULD, I CAN DO THE STREETS AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, THE STREETS WOULD BE INCLUDING THE DRAINAGE.
WE THINK, WE THINK WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE SCOPE OF IT.
WE HAVE TO DO THE STUDY TO KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS.
WELL I WAS JUST THINKING OLD TOWN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROMISED SO MUCH FOR SO LONG.
IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO SEE SOMETHING FINALLY HAPPEN OVER IN, IN.
I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THAT I, I SAID, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A DRAINAGE PROJECT WHEN WE'RE PUTTING IN SEWER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, CURB AND GUTTER, UH, LET'S SAY WE HOPE THEY DO THAT.
IF WE DO THAT, THEN THIS ENTIRE DRAINAGE PROJECT CAN GO AWAY.
'CAUSE OVER BY THE GIN, IT GETS REAL FLOODED BACK THERE.
AND SO MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER CAN HELP WITH SOME OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
IT DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF THE STREET PROJECT, WHICH WE'RE NOT PRIVY TO.
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NO, I AGREE.YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA, IF THEY'RE GONNA LAY IN DRAINAGE, CURB AND GUTTER RELOCATE, UTILITIES, GAS LINES, ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF AND PUT NEW STREET SURFACE LOGICAL THAT THEY WOULD DO.
SO YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD DO IT, BUT YEP.
I'M NOT GOING TO COUNT, COUNT ON ANYTHING.
WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP IT, BUT HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF 29, WE PUSH IT TO 31 AND THEN THEY CAN PULL IT FORWARD IF NEED BE.
THAT DO ITT 18, PUSH IT TO 31.
REAL AGREEABLE RIGHT NOW,
UH, D 19, THERE'S YOUR SMALLER NUMBER.
INSTALL FLOOD MONITORING GAUGES AT DETENTION PONDS.
UM, DO WE HAVE THE PONDS YET, OR DO WE GOTTA BUILD THEM FIRST? UH, I THINK THEY'RE EXISTING DETENTION PONDS.
CAN I, CAN I ASK WHAT DO THESE ACTUALLY DO AND WHY DO WE NEED 'EM? THE FLOOD GAUGES? YEAH.
I WOULD IMAGINE, WELL, I KNOW THE, THE FLOOD, BUT LIKE, DOES IT GET LIKE, SENT TO JAKE AND HE SENDS OUT AN ALERT OR WHAT? I BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE POINT OF 'EM IS, YOU KNOW, HEY, UH, THERE'S FLOODING IN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S, I IMAGINE THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T FUND IT BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A LOW RISK.
IS THAT WHY I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL THESE BEING ON ANY DRAINAGE MA UH, DRAINAGE PLANS PRIOR TO LAST YEAR.
SO I THINK THESE ARE NEW AND THEY WERE, LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT THAT 6 27, WHICH APPEARS TO BE THE INCREASE THAT 6 27, UH, SHOULD PROBABLY GO WITH THE OTHER FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.
IS THIS BECAUSE THE BIG FLOOD WE HAD LAST YEAR IN RESPONSE TO THAT? I DON'T THINK SO.
'CAUSE THIS, THIS CAME OUT BEFORE THE 4TH OF JULY FLOODS.
I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS GONNA GIVE REAL WORLD DATA OF HOW STUFF WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK.
BECAUSE YOU COULD DO EVERY DRAINAGE STUDY OUT THERE AND REAL WORLD DATA WHEN IT RAINS IS GONNA BE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE.
I I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT LIKE, WE'RE SO FAR DOWN, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T TRUST AN ENGINEER.
SO I TOLD HIM TO COVER HIS EARS.
SO THE, THE REASON I SAY I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE IT TO 27 IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN D 17, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM GOES IN.
LET'S, LET'S PUT 'EM ALL IN AT THE SAME TIME.
27, 27 DRAINAGE CHUNK GETS APPROVED.
THIS DOES, AT LEAST WE GOT SOMETHING.
AND IT MAY GIVE A STATE TO SAY WHAT NEEDS DONE FIRST.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS D 20 BRUSHY CREEK TRIBUTARY SEVEN SECONDARY CONVEYANCE IMPROVEMENTS.
LET'S LOOK AT THE MAP WORKING ON IT.
PRETTY MUCH A LONG INNOVATION, HUH? SO ARE THEY GONNA GO UNDER THOSE EXISTING, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ALREADY THERE.
I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE PROBABLY WIDENING IT AND THEY CAN WIDEN DOING SOMETHING THERE.
WHERE THE ROADS WHOOP, IT'S IN HERE.
SHE'S JUST TELLING ME TO SHOW YOU THAT.
IT'S TO THE IT'S TO THE RIGHT ON PAGE TWO.
SO THE ROAD SAYS LIVE OAK ON THE MAP.
THAT'S ACTUALLY SCHNEIDER BOULEVARD.
THERE IS A BRIDGE WHERE THIS GOES UNDER.
THERE'S AN EXISTING BRIDGE THERE, AND THEN YOU SEE THE PART AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE MO FIVE PURPLE PATH.
THAT IS IRONWOOD DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE BIG BUILDINGS BEHIND HOOKY AND CHEWY AND ALL THAT.
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OKAY.THEY ALREADY HAVE THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL IN THERE.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 5 MILLION.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN BUDGETED FOR 26, BUT DO WE PUT IT IN 27 OR 28? I WAS THINKING 27.
TONY, I'D LIKE YOU TO CHOOSE THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE PICKED.
WHAT WAS THAT? I'D LIKE YOU TO CHOOSE THE NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S FARM DETENTION POND.
DOWN A LITTLE DOWN RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT THERE ON THE GREEN STAR.
WHERE IS THAT? NO, SCROLL DOWN.
UH, IT'S ON THE OTHER, THAT'S THE CORRECT PROJECT.
BUT WHERE IS THAT? OH, THAT'S BEHIND YMCA.
THAT'S THE DETENTION POND BEHIND YMCA.
IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR EACH.
BUT THE BASINS, UM, THE COLORS CORRESPOND TO THE BASIN THAT THE WATER WORKS.
AND THAT'S GOT A PROJECTED COST, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A YEAR FLOW TO THAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK MUST BE THAT BIG EMPTY LOG YEAR? YEAH, IT'S NOT, THERE IS NO YEAR.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, TONY? THE, THE DETENTION POND'S ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YEP.
29 IY
YOU ING GO, UH, D 22 HU EXCHANGE BOULEVARD CULVERT AND CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S THAT ONE THAT GOES BEHIND HOME DEPOT AND AND STUFF.
WHY WOULD YOU DO IN 2019 ALSO
NOW, PATRICIA, I AM CURIOUS WHY SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT, OH, THEY GOT A BAD, I'M SURE THEY DEVELOPED OR HELPED DEVELOP THOSE DRAINAGE, UH, EASEMENTS BACK THERE.
WHY AREN'T THEY FUNDING SOME OF THIS? WHAT THAT MEAN? IF THEY DETAIN THEIR OWN WATER? I WONDER.
'CAUSE IF THIS IS CITY DRAINAGE, THIS, THEIR WATER MIGHT NOT CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
WELL, THEY, IT GUESS PROBABLY HAVE ON SITE.
I NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A CREEK ON ONSITE DETENTION.
BECAUSE THAT BEHIND THE, THAT'S BEHIND DEPOT.
BEHIND THE HOME DEPOT BECAUSE, SO, UM, UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, OBTAINING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AS AN AFTER EFFECT, WE'RE IMMINENT DOMAINING THAT ONE RIGHT.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT AND IT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS. MM-HMM
WE'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TAKING IT.
SO THAT'S THEIR WATER THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING IN THERE, THOUGH, I'M SURE ACTUALLY IT IS.
BUT ALSO FROM THE VACANT FIELD TO THE NORTH, THE BUSINESS PARKING LOT, ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS KIND OF WHAT THEY DID WITH LEGENDS AND SAID, WHY ARE, WHY ARE, THERE'S NO HOA THERE'S NOTHING HERE.
IT'S A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
WE SHOULD BE RUNNING THIS EMINENT DOMAIN.
WE'RE GONNA RUN IT, BUT THE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES MOVE THAT DIRT.
THEY ALL EQUALLY HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL, THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH DIDN'T MOVE THE DIRT.
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A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT THEY DON'T NEED? WELL, JUDGING GOING PAST THAT, SO, ALL RIGHT.WHAT YEAR IS IT ON CURRENTLY? UH, IT'S CURRENTLY NO YEAR.
YOU CAN TELL WE NEED TO GO HOME.
PRIMARY CONVENIENCE, NORTHERN IMPROVEMENTS.
HEY, THIS, THIS IS THE RIGHT MAP.
WHAT IS IT? HOW MUCH YOU HAVE? DETENTION POND.
THAT IS AN EXPENSIVE MUD HOLE.
ARE YOU KIDDING? HOW MUCH HOW ID IS IT RIGHT THERE? UP, DOWN, DOWN RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S DO THREE, HOW WE CREEK PRODUCE 25 ACRE WHAT? 46, 15 FOOT HIGH ENGINEERING SURVEY.
THEY'RE NOT BUILDING A DETENTION POND.
THEY'RE BUILDING AN OLYMPIC POOL.
WELL, HOW MUCH ARE THEY TAKING IN UP THERE? THEY'RE TAKING IN ALL THE COTTONWOOD UP THERE.
HOW BIG IS IT? ACRES? YEAH, BUT THEY'RE TAKING IN ALL OF COTTONWOOD 25 ACRES.
EVERYTHING IS FLOWN THROUGH COTTONWOOD.
IT'S GONNA BE DUMPING INTO THERE.
AND YOU'RE TAKING OUT 15 FOOT OF DIRT.
THAT'S, THAT'S MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DIRT TO BE HAULED OFF.
NO, THAT'S YOU TALKING IN MINE, SUE, WE GOT A LOT OF LIVES.
40 BUCKS A YOU KNOW, EVERY 10 CUBIC YARDS OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO IN THERE AND PUT SOME FISH IN IT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO PREP, HOLD WATER PIPE FOR HIMSELF OVER HALF THAT TRUCK.
UH, SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE A YEAR.
WE'LL TRY TO FIND SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO BUY THE DIRT BEFORE THEN.
DO YOU NEED DIRT,
I THINK THAT'S IT FOR DRAINAGE.
WHICH MEANS ALL WE'VE GOT LEFT, UNLESS I'M WRONG, IS WASTEWATER AND WATER.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO, IS THAT RIGHT? I THOUGHT WE DID WASTEWATER ALREADY.
DID WE? I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID IT.
I THOUGHT WE DID IT ON THE FIRST.
OKAY THEN WATER IS, IS IS THE ONLY ONE.
WATER, WATER'S THE ONLY THING WE GOT LEFT.
SO FINALLY WE'LL MOVED INTO THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THESE, UM, UM, HONESTLY, IT IS ALMOST MIDNIGHT.
I THINK WE'RE GET, WE'RE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE PUNCHY, BUT WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? DRIVE ON.
THIS IS THE LAST, THIS IS THE LAST SECTION, RIGHT? WATER.
IS IT? I'LL USE THE WORD FINALLY.
SO, SO AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE FINANCIALS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE PROJECTS WITH THE, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SHE'LL WALK THROUGH WHAT THAT PROJECTION EACH FISCAL YEAR.
IT WILL, WHAT DO YOU SAY? CHARGE THROUGH.
I THINK THIS HAD, UM, MOVE THEM ALL.
THE MOVE THIS, THIS DOWN RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TOMORROW.
OH, SEE, IT'S IN THIS SPREADSHEET.
SO THE LAST TIME, THERE WE GO.
SOMEBODY GAVE A GOOD, THERE WE GO.
BUT SOMEBODY GAVE A GOOD, UM, CUE TO, IN, IT WAS EITHER HIDE OR, OH, YES.
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ROSE ONE THROUGH WHATEVER.UH, PUT THE CURSOR ON THE ONE.
YOU COULD ALSO MINIMIZE THE CELL SIZE AND IT WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
BUT RETAIN YOUR COLUMN HEADERS, WHICH YOU LOST.
OH, THOSE, THESE ARE WASTEWATER.
OH FIVE W OH FIVE INTERCONNECTION.
NEXT TO IT THOUGH, IT SAYS 2030 ON IT.
WELL, LET, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
IS THIS THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT WITH JONAH? IS IT THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT WITH MANVILLE? OR IS IT THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT WITH TAYLOR? SO WAIT, WHAT PROJECT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? WW OH FIVE.
GO BACK MORE WATER IF WE NEED IT.
LET'S HURRY UP JUST 2030 ABOUT.
I KNOW I'VE SEEN 2023 ON SOME, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL PUBLIC WORK.
YOU CAN GET ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
WHERE THE HELL? SO FIVE GO TO THE WATER, THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE ORDERS, DROP ANOTHER MAP.
MAYBE IT WAS TO PREVENT THE BACKFLOW.
BY THE TIME THE WATER, WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE'LL FIND OUT DIFFERENT FIELD CHANGES.
WHAT DO WE DO? SHE'S PULLING UP MAP.
WHY IF WE CALL IT AT MIDNIGHT, I'LL GET FIVE HOURS, SIX HOURS.
HOW DO I TAKE THIS? STARTING MY NEW JOBING.
ALL I DO IS COMPLIANCE TRAINING.
I KNOW A LOT ABOUT HITA CLICKING TEXTBOOK OR HIT THE X DON AT THE BOTTOM.
HAVE FUN YET, HUH? HMM? YOU HIT THE PHONE YET? UH, I'M JUST CHECKING.
PHI LETTING YOUR WIFE KNOW YOU'RE STILL ALIVE.
YOU WANT ME TO PULL UP BOTH OF THEM? DO THIS? UM, I WOULD LOOK AT THE MAP FIRST.
I THINK FIVE IS ASSOCIATED WITH, ALL RIGHT.
THE W OH FIVE IS THE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT RIGHT THERE.
I I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS WITH, THAT'S THE EXHIBITION.
AND SO FIVE, I THINK IT'S WITH MANVILLE.
WHAT'S OVER THERE TO THE EAST? LET, LET ME, I'M GONNA LOOK IN THE MASTER PLAN.
WELL, THAT WOULD, WO FIVE WAS SCHEDULED OUT IN 2030.
THAT'S A DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION.
SO THAT, THAT ONE WE'RE, WE ARE PAYING, UH, ONCE THE DEVELOPER COMPLETES? NO, IT, THE DEVELOPER IS PARTICIPATING, UH, WITH $1.2 MILLION
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ON THAT ONE.SO, AND, AND THEY RECEIVED, OR IT IS ALLOCATED? IT WAS UNDER FISCAL YEAR 26.
SO LET'S, UH, LET'S REFLECT THOSE NUMBERS IN 26.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE 1.3 MILLION WAS, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THE 1.2 AND 26 THEN.
THAT WAS, THIS IS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 26.
AND THEN DELETE THE, OR LEAVE LEAVE THE 25.
'CAUSE THAT'LL, THAT'LL ADD UP THEN.
W OH SEVEN, UH, NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
SO THAT PROJECT IS, UM, IT'S TWOFOLD.
SO WE HAVE A ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND A, UH, WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN.
BOTH PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK WILL GO TO CONSTRUCTION, UM, BUYER BEFORE MARCH.
AND THEN THE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN WILL GO INTO BIDDING MAY, APRIL, OR MAY LATTER PART OF APRIL OR MAY START CONSTRUCTION IN JULY.
SO WHAT PROJECT IS THAT TRANSMISSION LINE? IT, IT'S ALL UNDER THAT W OH SEVEN.
WE SHOULD SKIP THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S UNDER DESIGN.
AND W 12, WE GOT MONEY GOING IN.
THEY LOOK LIKE 12 AND 13 ARE TOGETHER.
AND THEY'RE FOR THE SAME AMOUNTS, WHICH FOR 26 AND 27, THEY PROJECTED, I'M GUESSING THE DEVELOPER PAGE ONE, UH, IN CASE THE OTHER ONE.
YEAH, THAT'S ITEM FIVE ON THE MAP.
SO BACK TO THE SPREADSHEET, I THINK.
CAN WE, CAN WE SCROLL OUT TO WHAT, 27? I THINK? IRON REMOVAL? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT HIGHLIGHTED.
WANNA SEE THE NEXT TWO COLUMNS? YEP.
LOOKS LIKE ONE AFTER THE OTHER DEVELOPER DOES THE NEXT.
UH, MEGASITE WATER LINES PHASE TWO.
AND THAT'S PROJECT EIGHT D ON THE MAP RIGHT THERE.
UH, W 15 FM 1660 SOUTH WATERLINE.
THAT'S GOTTA BE WAY DOWN THERE.
I WOULD LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S AT.
AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION FOLKS, UM, ROADS OVER THERE IN 2030.
WE ALSO, THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK, THEY FOLLOW A ROAD NECESSARILY.
NO, THEY DON'T, BUT THEY'RE GOING, UH, AND SERVICING, UH, WHAT IS IT, GOLA? THERE'S,
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THERE'S AT LEAST TWO DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THERE.UM, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY AT 2030.
BECAUSE IF THE DEVELOPERS NEED IT, THEY CAN TALK TO COUNCIL AND GET IT MOVED FORWARD.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? UH, I'M, I'M THERE.
UH, W 17 IS HIGHWAY 79, WESTERN WATERLINE CROSSING THAT IS PROJECT 16 ON THE MAP UP.
WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE SPREADSHEET AGAIN? UH, THAT IS $3 MILLION.
WHAT'S THAT? LEAVE IT LIKE IT.
UH, W 19 CARL STERN WATERLINE REPLACEMENT.
I'LL LEAVE IT IN 2030 WHEN THE ROAD'S GETTING DONE.
WE'RE GETTING THERE TWO DAYS AGO.
W 21 COUNTY ROAD 1 32, WATERLINE NORTH.
THAT IS PROJECT 17 ON THE MAP.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ROAD.
W 24 WATER RECLAMATION EXPANSION.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED RECLAMATION, SO I WOULD, I WOULD KEEP IT IN 28.
WELL, IT, WHAT IS THAT THOUGH? NOT GETTING OFF TOPIC, BUT, SO RECLAIMED WATER.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, THE PROJECT SAYS 28, BUT IT'S NOT, THE MONEY'S NOT PLUGGED INTO 28, NOT ALLOCATED TO ANYTHING.
SO IT'S A 2030 RIGHT NOW? UH, I'D LEAVE IT THERE.
I, I JUST THINK 250 THOUSAND'S.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE APPROVED 26 BUDGET.
THE 250,000 WAS ALLOCATED IN 28.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE PRETTY QUICK.
WATER RECLAMATION, BASICALLY TAKING YOUR PLACE.
I DON'T DUNNO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT.
THAT'S PROJECT 19 D RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
OH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
WE DON'T NEED TO DO NOTHING
AREN'T THEY DEVELOPING THAT? MAYBE NOT.
THAT'S PROJECT 20 D ON THE MAP.
OH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF, WAIT A MINUTE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THAT NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX AREA.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST THIS SIDE OF IT.
THAT'S JUST MORE, BUT WHY IS 20 D IN 19 D 27.
SO WE UPDATE THAT NUMBER AND THEN THEY CAN WHY IS IT, YEAH.
WHY IS IT 18 MILLION? THE NEXT PROJECT, RIGHT.
20 D LOOKS LIKE IT GOES BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY'RE BRINGING TWO OFF THAT DELIVERY POINT.
SO THEY'RE RUNNING ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
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20 D IS 2 MILLION.19 D IS 18 MILLION
BUT YOU GOT, YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT AREAS ON 19 D THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
BUT WHAT ARE, THEY'RE NOT PUTTING AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK OR NOTHING IN THERE.
WAIT, SO 20 W 26, THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ON, RIGHT? YEAH.
LEAVE IT AT 2030 OR WE'RE KEEPING IT AS IS.
AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I, I HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING.
WE HAVEN'T MOVED ANYTHING SINCE W THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND WAS ALLOCATED IN 26.
AND THE REMAINING 18 OR 19.9 MILLION IS SHOWN IN 2030.
YEAH, THAT ONE I JUST UPDATED TO REFLECT THE HUNDRED THOUSAND NO.
AND THEN LEAVE THE REST AS IS, UH, I'M SORRY.
UPDATED TO REFLECT THE 100,000 THAT WAS ALLOCATED LAST YEAR AND THEN, YEAH.
SO, SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN FY 26 AND 19 AND 19.9 MILLION AND FY 31.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND REMEMBER LAST YEAR IT WAS, HEY, YOU'VE GOT BROWN WATER, RIGHT? I DON'T, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
LET'S GO FIND OUT IF WE NEED TO SPEND $20 MILLION CITYWIDE TO FIX THE BROWN WATER ISSUE.
BUT IF CERTAIN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE BROWN WATER AND CERTAIN PEOPLE DO NOT A WHOLE CITY PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A WHOLE CITY PROBLEM.
LET'S FIND THE PROBLEM BEFORE WE THROW $20 MILLION AT US.
AND IT WAS, I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL COMPLETELY N IT.
IT, IT WAS ONLY GONNA BE A TEMPORARY FIX.
IT WASN'T GONNA SOLVE THE ISSUE.
SO, BUT LET'S FIND OUT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS AND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BEFORE WE THROW 20 MILLION AT IT BECAUSE THE IRON COULD COME BACK.
BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
IT COULD COME BACK EVENTUALLY.
W 28 ALLIANCE BOULEVARD, WATERLINE.
I FEEL LIKE THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE THOSE.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY I THAT LEAVE IT IN 2030 OR 2031.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 30 OR A 31 ISSUE.
AND
THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT, THANK YOU FOR SAYING
IS THAT WHAT BUDGETED FOR? RIGHT.
SO THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, PER, PER THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WE ARE ALREADY IN PROGRESS FOR THAT SECONDARY LINE.
HE HAS IT AS A, UH, A CONTRACT AMOUNT.
I GUESS WE WOULDN'T START PAYING FOR THAT WATER.
UH, POTENTIALLY IN THE SPRING.
SO WE'VE GOT MONEY BUDGETED FOR 2026.
SO THEY JUST FOR THIS MM-HMM
FEW MONTHS AGO, THEY'RE GONNA WRITE AGAIN.
I'LL HAVE TO HAVE ALBERTA CLARIFY THAT ONE.
BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T SHOW IT ON HERE.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF THAT ONE.
SO, UM, CAN I SEE THE NEXT CO THE SCROLL RIGHT ON LINE 98? YEP.
AND WHEN IS THAT SCHEDULED FOR? SO IT'S 26.
WELL, 326, BUT WE GOTTA GET WITH ALBERTA FINANCE DIRECTOR TO KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER.
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UM, AND THEN 6.9 MIL LOOKS LIKE THE DESIGN FOR IT.UM, MATT AND I WERE IN AGREEMENT ON THIS ONE.
UM, WERENT OR WERE, WERE ON AGREEMENT IN THIS, ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A PHENOMENALLY BAD IDEA TO HAVE ONE SINGLE WATER SOURCE.
NO, IT'S THE, YOU NEED, WELL THAT'S ME.
WE WERE TOLD BY MATT LAST YEAR THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE WATER LINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO GET A MILLION GALLONS A DAY WHEN WE'RE USING CURRENTLY FOUR, 4 MILLION, 5 MILLION WATER.
THREE THREE TO FOUR, THREE TO 5 MILLION GALLONS.
SO BASICALLY WHAT MATT SAID IS WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WASH YOUR CAR, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WATER YOUR YARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO IS THIS LINE GONNA LIKE SHARE CAPACITY OR IS THIS LIKE NO, IN CASE ONE GOES DOWN WE HAVE.
UNDERSTAND IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
BUT AS FAST AS WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE GONNA USE THIS ONE UP.
SO WELL AT, AT SOME POINT IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST THE BACKUP, IT'S GONNA BE A SECONDARY SUPPLY.
IT'S GONNA BE A SECONDARY SUPPLY.
BOTH OF THEM ARE FEEDING US BECAUSE THE FASTEST WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE GONNA NEED IT PROBABLY IN 10, 20 YEARS.
SO THE ONE THAT SHE PROPOSED LAST FEEDING.
'CAUSE WE DON'T GET THE FINANCIAL THAT MANY GALLONS OF WATER FROM MANFIELD TAYLOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S, YOU KNOW, AND WE GET NOTHING FROM JONAH.
BUT THEY HAVE, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.
JONAH, IF SOMETHING, IF THEY WILL EVEN SUPPORT US, WIPE BACK THAT.
BUT IT'S ONLY LIKE A MILLION GALLONS TO SELL THE LATER IN THE FISCAL MINUTE.
SO LIKE THAT? NO, IT'S LESS THAN THAT.
SO THE UTILITY THAT SHE'S WAITING TO TRY TO GET PART OF THE ISSUE INTEREST RATE WITH THIS SECOND STRAW, I'LL CALL IT THE SECOND PIPELINE.
PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT CITY OF HU WATER.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXTRA CAPACITY GOING TO JONAH.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXTRA CAPACITY GOING TO MANVILLE.
WHICH EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA REAL ESTATE THAT NEEDS WATER.
THE, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF REAL ESTATE BEFORE THIS THING'S BUILT MAYBE.
BUT IF THERE IS ANY PROBLEM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW WHAT, 15,000 PEOPLE, 20,000 PEOPLE ON WITHOUT WATER.
OH, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT PROBABLY 30,000 NOW.
NAH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANARCHY.
WE GOT, WE GOT ALL THE JONAH AND ALL THE MANVILLE FOLKS.
WELL, I, I KNOW AT ONE POINT THAT WE WERE, UM, HE'S A, WE WERE AT 24,000 TO EXTEND CCC 25,000.
WHATEVER THIS IS THREE YEARS AGO.
IS THAT EXCLUDING THE MUDS AND THE SPUDS OR THE SUDS? THE WATER? SHE'S CN RIGHT? YEAH.
THERE THERE IS A DISCUSSION TO EXPAND THAT WATER.
BUT THAT, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
THAT'S GONNA TAKE WELL, I KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, BUT THAT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED THAT CAPACITY.
IN 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT AND WE DON'T NEED THAT EXTRA WATER CAPACITY.
BUT WE WILL ALWAYS, MY OPINION, ALWAYS NEED A DIFFERENT PIPE.
ONE PIPE IS JUST THE WRONG ANSWER.
I MEAN THE PIPELINE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WEARS OUT.
AND WE'RE JUST, WELL, MATT TOLD US THEY'VE ALREADY HAD TO DO REPAIRS ON IT.
SO, SO ARE WE READY? WE'RE READY TO, UM, SUMMARIZE.
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OKAY.UH, NOW, UH, DO YOU ALL WANT MANNY TO READ THROUGH? DID Y'ALL DECIDE WHAT YEAR THIS LOOKS? WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU OH, THE YEAR IS 2031.
UH, NO FOR, OH NO, THE YEARS ARE SHOWN.
I GUESS WE NEED A CLARIFICATION.
ALBERTA, THE YEAR, THE YEARS I THINK WE LEAVE AS IS.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MOVE IT, THEY CAN MOVE IT.
ALBERTA CAN PROVIDE CLARIFICATION AS PART OF THE FINANCIAL WRAP UP.
SO WE HAVE, UH, COMPLETED FACILITIES, WASTEWATER, PARKS, PARKS, TRAILS ALONG ADJACENT STREETS, STREETS, THE A DA TRANSITION PLAN, DRAINAGE AND WATER, WHICH OUR NEXT MEETING IS SLATED FOR FEBRUARY 10TH.
AND WE WERE GONNA HAVE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR COME AND WALK THROUGH THE FINANCIALS FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR.
AND, UH, MANNY AND I HAVE A, A HIGH TALL TASK TO, UM, TAKE ALL THE MEETING MINUTES AND MODIFY THE EXCEL SPREADSHEETS AND GET THOSE TO ALBERTA SO SHE CAN MAKE THE, UH, CHANGES AND BE READY FOR NEXT, NEXT TUESDAY.
AND THAT WOULD END OUR SERIES OF, UH, THE FIVE YEAR CIP AND THE, THE ANTICIPATION IS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FEBRUARY 19TH.
AND I'LL PLACE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE.
UM, BUT I DID NEED CLARIFICATION.
WHEN, UM, WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE, IS THAT A LETTER THAT YOU ALL PREPARE? OR HOW, HOW DID YOU DO IT LAST YEAR? I A HOW DO IT, DID YOU GIVE NOTES TO MATT? I, I THINK MATT, HE PREPARED A MEMO.
UM, ONE, ONE ADD-ON, UH, THE OFF STREET TRAILS.
WE DID DO THOSE, UH OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WITH, WE DID THE OFF STREET TRAILS.
SO SINCE WE'RE MEETING ON THE 10TH, BETWEEN THE 10TH AND THE 12TH, I'LL TRY TO GET IT TO YOU IN SUFFICIENT TIME.
UH, I, I'LL BE HERE ON THE 19TH.
SO, BUT, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO ATTACH, I BELIEVE THE MM-HMM
THE LETTER TO THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.
IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANT ME TO DO, I CAN CERTAINLY DO IT.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY RUN THROUGH A BUNCH OF OUR PRESENTATION STUFF.
SO WHAT DO WE GOT? SHOULD I GO DOWN THE LIST OF WHAT WE WENT OVER TODAY OR WOULD YOU RATHER ME EMAIL IT AND YOU CROSS REFERENCE WITH WHAT YOUR NOTES ARE AND YOU GET BACK TO ME EMAIL IT? YEAH.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A TON OF STUFF ON HERE OKAY.
AND THEN JUST BEFORE YOU GO, JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT, UM, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION T OH FOUR, T OH FIVE, AND T OH SIX, DID YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES ON THOSE? OH 4, 0 5 0 6 AND NO CHANGE UNTIL FOUR AND OH FIVE, RIGHT? UH, I THINK SIX WAS ALREADY ON THE WAY NOW.
WE NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER WE WERE DROPPING IT AND ROLLING IT INTO T OH ONE OH BECAUSE SIX IS LAKE SIDE OF STATE SIDEWALKS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN PAUSED, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ROLLED INTO TO ONE.
WELL, I'LL SEND THIS OVER TO YOU IN THE MORNING AND THEN JUST GET BACK TO ME.
SHOULD I SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU OR JUST YOU RICK? UH, SEND, SEND TO EVERYBODY.
THAT WAY THEY CAN LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH PAIR OF EYES THAT WILL HELP.
AND THEN JUST NO ARGUING AMONGST EACH OTHER.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD US ARGUE.
AND THEN, UH, SO IT'S A VIOLATION NEXT TUESDAY WE'RE, WE'RE GOING OVER THE FINANCIALS.
UM, I THINK AT THAT POINT WE'RE JUST TO KIND OF SET EXPECTATIONS.
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I THINK AT THAT POINT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT TOTALS ON FISCAL YEARS ON SOME STUFF.SO WE MAY BE SLIDING WHAT YEAR WE DO WHAT PROJECT ON SOME OF THESE, BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE LOOKED AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 'EM WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S $600 MILLION IN 26.
LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THIS STUFF AROUND A LITTLE 2031.
2030 ONE'S GONNA LOOK UGLY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE YEAH.
KICKING THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
SO, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, A DO OUT FOR THE SPREADSHEET.
WE GOT A DO OUT FOR THE, UH, FINANCIAL STUFF.
NEXT WEEK WE GOT A DO OUT FOR THE MEMO.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE DONE.
THE TABLE? NO, THE OH, MINUTES.
SO ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? NO, I THINK WE'RE SET.
WELL THEN WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 4TH AT 12:20 AM YEAH.