[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

REMOVAL TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSION, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARD AND

APPOINTMENTS. >> YES, THE BOARD TOOK A MISSION SUPPLEMENTING THAT THIS WEEKEND ANNULATES WEEK. WE HAVE TWO NAMES TO SUBMIT. JASON PAUL RAMIREZ AND CAMILLE

BAPTISTE FOR THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. >> SECOND.

>> MOTIONED BY CONGRESSMAN MORRIS, SECONDED BY CONGRESSMAN GORDON.

ANY DISCUSSION? FOR JASON PAUL RAMIREZ TO ZBA AND CAMILLE BAPTISTE TO PARKS.

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WE STILL -- THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ONES THAT HAVE APPLIED.

HE DIDN'T HAVE A POSITION OPEN FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND ALL THE CITIZENS STEPPING UP AND DOING THE CITY REALLY NEED YOU GUYS.

GREATLY APPRECIATIVE. WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL OPENINGS. THREE ALTERNATIVES ON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. CONGRESSMAN GORDON, DON'T WE HAVE ONE OPENING FOR ZBA STILL?

>> ONE REGULAR SEAT PLUS THE THREE ALTERNATES, YES. >> THANK YOU.

STEP UP TO THE PLATE. APPRECIATE IT. >> ONE FOR DEIB.

WE HAVE AN OPENING DEIB. WE HAVE AN OPENING OR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD).]

>> THAT'S ALL. OUR NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 8.2.

WE DID MEET THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND I WITH HISD. ONE WAS THE PERMITTING OF THE SECOND HIGH SCHOOL AND THE STATUS OF THEM GETTING THEIR PERMITS FOR THAT.

THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS WE WENT OVER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I THINK AFTER THEY READ IT, THE

TERMS THEY USED IT WAS KIND OF A FLUFF AGREEMENT? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SOMETHING MAY COME UP TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WE -- I GUESS EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FEEL IN AGREEMENT. I WASN'T REALLY SEEING ANYTHING THAT WARRANTS HAVING AN

AGREEMENT. >> THE CONVERSATION WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE AGREEMENTS FOR.

>> OUR CONVERSATION, IS THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE CITY THAT'S NOT WORKING, A POLICY OR SOMETHING, AN ORDINANCE. DON'T JUST DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

TELL US WHAT IT IS SO WE CAN AS A COUNCIL WE CAN ACT ON IT. IT MAY BE WE SAY WE NEED THAT BECAUSE STAFF SAYS THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM OR IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF DEAL AND WE AMEND OUR

ORDINANCES FOR THAT. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. WAS THERE ANYTHING DISCUSSED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS ONE, WHICH IS NOT ENACTED NOW ABOUT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE ISD AND CITY OF HUTTO FOR THE SCOPE OF IT WAS FOR PROPERTIES, FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE

INVESTMENTS? >> THERE WAS BRIEFLY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK WE AGREE THEY'RE NOT IN POSITION. THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING WITH US THE LAND THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO PUT UNDER CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

PREVIOUSLY, THEY HAD SAID WE HAD PUSHED YOU'RE NOT TELLING THE CITY MANAGER WHEN PROPERTY IS

BEING PURCHASED. >> THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS FOR FACILITIES AND TRAFFIC.

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WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HOW -- DO WE GET ENOUGH HEADS UP TO START PLANNING AND CIP PROGRAM TO ADDRESS, FACILITATE THEIR NEEDS FOR TRAFFIC EXPANSION, PEDESTRIAN, VEHICULAR.

IS THAT ENOUGH TIME RIGHT BEFORE CLOSING, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO CONVENIENTLY GET IT IN OUR

PROJECT? >> WE'VE TALKED SOME. NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THAT.

IT'S A TIGHT TIMELINE. I THINK IT GIVE US US A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO DESIGN IT. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND BRING UP TO THEM.

[9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEMS 9.1-9.11.

ANY ITEMS COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> ELIKE TO PULL 9.1, PLEASE.

>> I LIKE TO PULL 9.2 AND 9.3 PLEASE. >> ANYONE TO MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 9.4 THROUGH 9.11 IS AMENDED. SO MOVED.

SECOND. MOTIONED BY COUNCILMAN PORTERFIELD AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MORRIS. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2006-034 authorizing the City Manager to execute an Agreement with PBK Architects, Inc., in the amount of $1,564,150 for the Design of the New Justice Center Facility project (CIP F02-2024). (Patricia Davis)]

7-0. ITEM 9.1. >> I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS.

>> HOLD ON. RESOLUTION NUMBER, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH PBK ARCHITECTS INCORPORATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,564,150 FOR THE DESIGN OF NEW

JUSTICE FACILITY PROJECT. CIPF02-2024. >> NOW I CAN GO.

I WANTED TO ASK. WE HAVE PBK ARCHITECT. ARE THEY ON LIKE A LIST? THAT WAS THE LIST WE HAD. I'M ASKING HOW WE ENDED UP WITH PBK.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. FOR THE RECORD PATRICIA DAVIS.

PBK IS ON OUR ROTATION LIST OF ARCHITECTS. >> OKAY.

>> THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING POLICE FACILITIES? >> OKAY.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. >> PATRICIA SAID THE NAME FIVE AND SOME CHANGE. THAT WILL GET US A DESIGN THAT WE CAN THEN BUILD A BUILDING ON

IT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THE PBK TEAM HAS PUT TOGETHER PROPOSAL THAT WILL PUT US THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE. THEY WILL PROVIDE SUPPORT.

THEY ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING NOVEMBER 2026 BOND ELECTION IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. >> WHAT'S OUR GUIDELINE FOR THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE? I KNOW THE LAST ONE WE WOULD ASK QUESTIONS AND THREE MONTHS LATER WE'D GET AN ANSWER. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR A DEADLINE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE

THIS THING READY TO GO? >> IN YOUR PACKET, THERE'S A SCHEDULE AND WE HAVE OUR KICKOFF MEETING NEXT WEEK. PBK IS A FULLY AWARE OF THE SPEED AND THE AGILITY THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO EXPECTS FOR THIS PROJECT. IF WE NEED TO ACCELERATE BASED ON THE SCHEDULE. THEY ARE ANTICIPATING TO DELIVER PLANS AND PRODUCTS READY FOR THE

BOND BY NOVEMBER OR PRIOR TO NOVEMBER. >> LAST QUESTION.

ARE WE COMFORTABLE, THIS IS ABOUT $3 MILLION CHEAPER THAN THE LAST ARCHITECT, ARE WE COMFORTABLE THAT THESE GUYS ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE WE NEED WITH IT BEING SO MUCH CHEAPER? WASN'T IT LIKE $4.8 MILLION THE PREVIOUS PERSON WANTED.

THEY WANTED HALF MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO DESIGN A ROOM? >> IN THE PACKET, YOU ALSO WILL NOTICE THAT THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE STRUCTURE HAS COME DOWN. IT'S NOT $55 MILLION PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME. PERCENTAGE WISE IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS.

DOLLAR WISE IT'S A LOT LESS BECAUSE THE COST OF THE PROJECT. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN YOUR PACKET, THERE IS EXPLANATION IN THE PROPOSALS. THERE ARE SOME -- THERE'S A ROAD. THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION COMING OFF MEGER THAT WILL NEED TO BE

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CONTEMPLATED IF ANY ADDITIONAL DESIGN NECESSARY FOR THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

>> VERY EXCITED TO SEE THE PRICE. IT WAS DRAMATICALLY LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE. IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY ON THIS ONE.

>> OF A QUESTION -- I HAVE A QUESTION. WE HAD A MILESTONES IN APRIL AND IN JUNE. THEN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS BACK IN DECEMBER YEAR FROM NOW.

HOW IS THE COUNCIL GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ON THESE MILESTONES? I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL APRIL TO GET SCHEMATIC DESIGN. LIKE TO HEAR SOMETHING ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IT COULD BE SOMETHING IN E-MAIL OR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT IN OCTOBER? >> WE MISSED APRIL DESIGN.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM. I LIKE THE COUNCIL TO BE NOTIFIED OF KIND OF ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THERE MAYBE -- I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT TIME, I LIKE TO SEE MORE UPDATES THAN JUST APRIL, JUNE AND THEN DECEMBER.

SOME OF THESE FIRST PHASES OF THE PROJECT. >> WE'LL TAKE THAT NOTE.

WE WILL INCORPORATE. WE HAVE OUR KICKOFF MEETING NEXT WEEK.

OUR PBK REPRESENTATIVES HERE. THEY ARE HEARING THE SAME THING. WE WILL BRING BACK, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE RENDERINGS WERE PUT TOGETHER THIS TEAM DID NOT DO THAT PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

WE'LL COME BACK TO CONFIRM WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH ALL THE PARTIES AND WE'LL INCORPORATE

THAT IN THE SCHEDULE. >> THANKS. >> THEY HAVE THEIR RUNNING SHOES

ON. >> WE GOT TO HIT THE DATE.

AWESOME. ANY DISCUSSION OR ACTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY COUNCILMAN PORTERFIELD SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORTON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-035 authorizing the City Manager to execute an Individual Project Order (IPO) with Alfred Benesch & Company to perform preliminary engineering design for the SH 130 NB Frontage Road Project (CIP T26-2026) in the amount of $486,689.01. (Patricia Davis)]

PREEMPT IT WAS IT'S ON THE ROTATION LIST. I WANT TO ENSURE THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE ROTATION LIST, THEY'RE NEXT IN LINE DOESN'T NECESSARILY QUALIFY THEM TO DO THIS JOB. HOW DO YOU VET WHETHER THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO PERFORM THIS AGENDA

ITEM? >> GOOD QUESTION. FOR THE RECORD, PATRICIA DAVIS, INTERIM CITY ENGINEER. THEY ARE ON THE APPROVED LIST FOR FISCAL YEAR '26.

WE ARE REVIEWING ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE ON THE TRANSPORTATION ROTATION LIST.

WE DID CONSIDER THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE COORDINATION WITH THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, POSSIBLY WILLIAMS COUNTY AND OTHER JURISDICTIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. THE TEAM, FERNANDO, THE PROJECT MANAGER, HE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE ON TOLL PROJECTS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND HE ALSO HAS COORDINATED PROJECTS WITH TXDOT. THEY INCLUDEDDED THAT IN THEIR SCOPE.

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WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR A FIRM THAT COULD EXPEDITE AND MOVE THROUGH THE TXDOT PROCESS WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS ALL THE COORDINATION FOR THE TRAFFIC AND ANTICIPATING THOSE

COORDINATION. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. >> ARE THEY HERE?

>> THEY ARE HERE. >> CAN WE ASK YOU A QUESTION? THANK YOU, SIR.

WE GOT HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO GET THE PROJECT DONE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.

YOU GUYS SUPPOSED TO HAVE EXPERTISE ACCORDING TO TXDOT. I WANT MAKE SURE YOU WILL BE DONE BY THAT DATE. WE YET TO GET A PROJECT REMOTELY IN THE SAME CALENDAR YEAR DONE.

THE CONSULTANTS PROMISE US ONE THING AND THEY HAD THIS GUY QUIT.

I'M THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING HERE. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY EXCUSES. NOT 30% OR 60 OR 90. YOU'RE ABLE TO COMMIT TO THE

PUBLIC THAT YOU'LL GET AT LEAST 99% MARK BY END OF SEPTEMBER? >> YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR. WE ARE DOING THE PRELIMINARY. WE'RE NOT DOING TRUE DESIGN.

WE WILL BE DOING WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. WE DO HAVE THE EXPERTISE.

WE STARTED COORDINATING WITH CCTS, TXDOT TO FIND OUT THE PROCESS.

THAT IS THE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WILL TAKE THE LONGEST IS THE COORDINATION.

WE ALREADY STARTED THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE A VERY SMOOTH PROCESS FROM USING OUR RELATIONSHIP AND EXPERTISE WORKING WITH THEM IN THE PAST. THAT WILL GO SMOOTHLY.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

PRELIMINARY PLAN SET AND SOMETHING WE CAN BID OUT? >> WE'RE DOING THE PRELIMINARY WHICH WILL GO THROUGH THE CONCEPT AND GET THIS APPROVED. I APOLOGIZE, PATRICIA IF I OVERSPEAK, BASICALLY GETTING IT UP TO -- TEEING IT UP FOR THE NEXT PHASE.

WHICH WILL BE THE ASK MAT I CAN PHASE -- SCHEMATIC PHASE OR THE DESIGN PLANS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC. IT IS A SIMPLE PROJECT.

IT MAY NOT REQUIRE A FULL SCHEMATIC. WE WILL GET THAT APPROVED BY THE POWERS OF THE CCTS AND TXDOT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT TIME FRAME. TO GET THAT READY TO GO.

>> IS IT MORE SKEPTICAL. -- CONCEPTUAL.

INI WANT TO MAKE -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE BEEN MISUNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS IN THE PAST. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING.

>> WE'RE DOING LOT OF THE STEPS AND THE FUTURE PROCESS IN THIS PART.

>> IN A PRELIMINARY STUDY, ANY TOLL OR COORDINATION WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUIRES SINCE WE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY CHANGING OR IMPACTING TRAVEL ON THE FRONTAGE ROADS OF SH130. THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT WILL GIVE US FEEDBACK FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, CTS AND CTRMA OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY OF HUTTO WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO A TOLL REVENUE STUDY THAT TOLL REVENUE STUDY WOULD GENERATE A PRICE OF LOSS IN THEIR REVENUES OF US PUTTING OR INSTALLING A FRONTAGE ROAD SEGMENT.

THOSE GENERATORS MAY REQUIRE THAT WE PAY THAT FEE BEFORE WE PROCEED TO DESIGN.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT COORDINATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WHICH IS IN THAT PHASE FOR THE SCHEMATIC BEFORE YOU GO INTO THAT FOOTPRINT. THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR LOSSES ARE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, ADJACENT TO THE TOLL FACILITY THERE IS THAT WEST SIDE. THEY COULD COME BACK AND SAY, CITY OF HUTTO, WE WANT YOU TO INCLUDE THE WEST SIDE AS WELL. IT'S UP TO THE CITY TO EITHER ENTERTAIN, ADDING THAT NEGOTIATING WITH TXDOT TO FUND THAT PORTION. WE WILL REQUIRE AND EXPECT

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BEFINISH TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. OUR INTEREST IS ON THE EAST SIDE

BECAUSE OUR CITY LIMITS ARE ONLY ONLY ON THE EAST SIDE. >> IT'S ENOUGH TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND GET THE PRELIMINARY APPROVALS TO THOSE AGENCIES TO WHERE WE KNOW THEN IF WE HAVE TO GET INTO A STUDY THAT PAY FUTURE LOSS REVENUE. ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT BY END OF THE YEAR, STARTING IN '27, WE CAN LOOK AT ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS.

>> YOUR DESIGN WILL STILL -- THAT REALLY STAGE -- THAT PRELIMINARY STAGE IS JUST THIS

STUDY. >> THIS IS THE STUDY OF IF WE HAVE PAY MONEY.

>> YES. THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN YOU CAN GET THE FOOTPRINT.

WE'RE DOING ON LEMUR LOOP. WE LOOK AT SR2040. WE LOOK AT THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN. WE LOOK AT THE WHAT THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS AND WHAT RIGHT-OF-WAY TAKES WILL BE REQUIRED. THAT WILL STILL REQUIRED IN THE SCHEMATIC TO COORDINATE BACK WITH TXDOT TO DETERMINE THE WIDTH OF THE FRONT ALL ROAD.

TXDOT WILL REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WITH SCHEMATIC. USUALLY WITH SCHEMATIC DESIGN WITH TXDOT, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES, PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE STEP TOO. ONCE THAT SCHEMATIC IS APPROVED AND YOU HAVE A FOOT PRESENT, THEN YOU CAN MOVE INTO DESIGN. 500 GRAND TO FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE MORE MONEY.

>> THAT'S WHAT OUR BUDGET WAS. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION WAS HOW DO WE FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE OWE. THIS IS IT. BECAUSE, I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING TOLD THAT ANY TIME YOU BYPASS A TOLLWAY, YOU HAVE TO PAY SOME KIND OF FEE.

DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO BYPASS OR NOT. I THINK MOST PEOPLE USING THIS WOULDN'T GET ON THE TOLL ANYWAY. THEY WILL GET ON LEMUR. MY OTHER QUESTION WILL THIS TELL US WHETHER A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS WARRANTED ON LEMUR WHERE IT CONNECTS IN WITH THAT CURRENT

FEEDER ROAD? >> THIS PRELIMINARY STUDY WILL NOT TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A SEPARATE ANALYSIS THAT HAS TO BE PERFORMED. THAT WILL BE PERFORMED AS PART OF THE SCHEMATIC WHICH IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ANALYSIS. YOU HAVE TO COLLECT TRAFFIC

DATA. >> WE'RE NOT DOING FRONTAGE ROADS ANY TIME SOON.

>> JUST COMMENT ON MAYOR'S COMMENT. THIS IS MORE THAN JUST -- IF YOU LOOK -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE THIS IS. PAGE 203.

ANOTHER GANT CHART. THERE'S THE SURVEY AND ENVIRONMENTAL, COST AND RISK WHICH PART OF THAT IS THE CCTS TOLL REVENUE STUDY ALSO AND REPORTING APPROVAL.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST HOW MUCH MORE MONEY WE'LL OWE. BACK TO THE ENGINEER REPRESENTING. IT WAS SAID THAT Y'ALL HAVE HISTORY WORKING WITH TXDOT ON THESE FRONTAGE ROADS IN THE PAST. CAN YOU NAME THE TIME FRAME FOR THE LAST THREE WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF THAT BEFORE SCHEDULE AFTER SCHEDULE, ON TIME?

>> FIRST, YES, THERE ARE SEVERAL ELEMENTS IN THERE FOR THE FUNNEL PROJECT.

EARLY ON, WE'RE DOING THE SURVEY, GEOTECH. THAT'S DOLLAR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SEQUENCE OF THE PROJECT. FERNANDO AND I WORKED ON IT FOR 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE AND FERNANDO WORKED ON SEGMENT, 1-4 I BELIEVE THREE YEARS. THIS IS UNIQUE SCENARIO.

YOU'RE GETTING THIS FRONTAGE ROAD APPROVED. I KNOW WE'RE SAYING THERE'S A

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POTENTIAL FOR REIMBURSING THEM. THERE'S A POTENTIAL ZERO REIMBURSEMENT.

WHICH IS EARLY CONVERSATIONS IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S LEANING TOWARDS THAT WAY.

>> YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS UNIQUE. YOU CAN'T GIVE EXAMPLES WHERE Y'ALL HAVE MET SCHEDULE, EXCEEDED SCHEDULE OR DELINQUENT ON SCHEDULE? IT CAN'T BE APPLES TO APPLES.

>> THERE'S FEW SCENARIOS. >> BACK ON PAGE 203, THE GANT CHART.

SAME QUESTION I HAVE BEFORE. WE HAVE MILESTONES IN APRIL EARLY APRIL AND THEN SOME MORE IN JULY, A COUPLE OF THEM IN JULY. ONE INTO APRIL.

AGAIN, I THINK IN THE PAST, CITY COUNCIL, I'M GOING BACK 10, 12, NOT JUST ANYTHING RECENT.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK COUNCIL, THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO DO A BETTER JOB AT, UNDERSTANDING THE SCHEDULES AND NOT JUST WAITING THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS, KIND OF, ESPECIALLY THINGS ARE CRITICAL TO THE CITY. WE'RE GETTING A MONTHLY OR 6 TO 8 WEEKS UPDATE. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM JUST UPDATING THIS HOW THIS GOING. SOME OF THESE ARE VERY CRITICAL. I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL -- I WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON NOT JUST THE GANT CHART.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION FOR THIS ITEM?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTIONED COUNCILMAN PORTERFIELD AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MORRIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-036 authorizing the City Manager to execute an Individual Project Order (IPO) with LJA Engineering in the amount of $355,596.44 for design services on the Carl Stern at FM 685 project (CIP T73-2026). (Patricia Davis)]

>> IT PASSES 7-0. ITEM 9.3.

>> HI, PATRICIA. SAME QUESTION.

YOU NEED ME TO REPEAT IT? >> THEY'RE ON THE ROTATION LIST. JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ROTATION

LIST, MAYBE NEXT IN LINE, DOES IT NECESSARILY QUALIFY THEM? >> FOR THE RECORD, PATRICIA DAVIS INTERIM CITY ENGINEER. THIS PROJECT IS UNIQUE. THIS CONSULTANT IS ON THE TRANSPORTATION LIST ROTATION AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS OR TRAFFIC ROTATION LIST THAT WE HAVE FROM FISCAL YEAR '25. WAS RENEWED FOR FISCAL YEAR '26. LAJ ENGINEERING HAS THE EXPERTISE FOR NOT ONLY TRAFFIC OPERATIONS BUT ALSO FOR DESIGN SO THEY HAVE IN-HOUSE TEAM THAT CAN DO BOTH. THEY WILL COLLECT TRAFFIC DATA. OUR UNDERSTANDING AS CITY STAFF THAT WE RELAY TO LJJ WE NEED OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR CONGESTION MOSTLY DURING THE PEAK PERIOD FOR THE SCHOOL OF A RIGHT TURN LANE ON TO 685 FROM CAUSE STERN.

THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THEY ARE ON OUR ROTATION LIST. >> I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT DESIGNING THE INTERSECTION. IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ISD, ONE OF MY COMPLAINTS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SUPPOSED TO CONDUCT AND THEY SUPPOSED TO GET COS BEFORE ALL THE

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IMPROVEMENTS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT.

WE'VE SEEN LIKE A VERSION OF ONE. WHEN I WAS PRESSING THEIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON THIS, THEIR ANSWER WAS WHEN THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL COMES UP, 40% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOL AREN'T GOING TO BE HERE ANYMORE. I SAID WHY ARE WE LOOKING BUILDING AN INTERSECTION IF YOU TELLING ME -- THEY ARE TELLING ME TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO AWAY ONCE THEY BUILD THE SCHOOL. I BRING THAT UP HERE TO SAY I DON'T MIND AT SOME POINT HAS TO BE DESIGNED. I DON'T MIND DOING IT NOW SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU CAN WORK ON.

FROM ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, IF THE ISD THINKS THAT MANY STUDENTS LEAVE THAT SCHOOL AND GO TO THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS WHERE COUNCILMAN MORRIS'S POINT, WE HAVE NO COMMUNICATION. IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THAT MANY STUDENTS, HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT SPENDING HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DESIGN IT. I THINK IT WILL BEHOOVE US TO MAKE SURE -- NOT ALL INFORMATION WE GET IS FACTUAL. WE OUGHT TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY EXPECTED ENROLLMENT TO DROP AND CHANGE. BASED ON THAT AND IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE TAI, WE HAVE TON AN AGENDA ITEM. THEIR SUP WAS ESPECIALLY CONTINGENT DOING A TIA. THEY HAVE HABIT JUST DOING STUFF AND HAVING FOR FORGIVENESS LATER. WE NEED TO COORDINATE THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT DO WE PUT THIS ON THE CIP PLAN TO BUILD NEXT YEAR? DO WE SAY WE GOT THIS DESIGN. WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP IN AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. MAYBE THIS PLAN GOES ON TO CIP FOR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN I HAD IMAGINE ENROLLMENT MOVES TO THE NORTH CAMPUS AND PICK BACK UP OVERTIME.

THEN WE HAVE IT. I DON'T MIND THE DESIGN. IT'S GOOD WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF THE SCHEDULE. I AM CAUTIONED BY WHAT THEY ARE TELLING ME.

IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BUSES COMING THROUGH WITH THE POTENTIAL BUS BARN, IT'S OVER BLOWN FEAR THEY ARE TAKING OUGHT STUDENTS AWAY. THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS TRAFFIC HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED EFFECTIVELY TO US.

>> THAT IS THE POTENTIAL. >> WE'RE TALKING $4 MILLION MAYBE TO BUILD AN INTERSECTION THAT ISD SAYING WE MIGHT NOT NEED. I WILL BRING THAT UP UNTIL WE

PLAN FOR IT. >> MY COMMENT IS CERTAINLY NOT MEANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT THERE IS NECESSARY ONLY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL BEING THERE. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A SINGLE LANE OF TRAFFIC FOR RIGHT-HAND TURN. CARL STERN GOES TO 130.

IT END UP BEING A MAJOR EAST WEST CORRIDOR FOR US AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE RELEASE OF PRESSURE WITH THE RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE CAUSES THE TRAFFIC TO STAY BACKED UP.

KIND OF LIKE, I GUESS, 1660 SOUTH DID. WHILE I DO HEAR YOU, I THINK THAT'S RELEVANT WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THE TIA. I DON'T THINK THIS WAS PROJECT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL AND SCHOOL TRAFFIC. THEY IT'S MEANT FOR EVERYDAY HUTTO USERS WHO ARE PARTICULARLY LEAVING ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS GOING TO WORK,

THAT SORT OF STUFF. >> IT WAS BROUGHT UP AS A SCHOOL PROJECT.

THAT'S WHY SOME OF US PUSH VERY STRENUOUSLY FOR ISD. WHEN YOU BUILD A SCHOOL YOU HAVE TO DO A TIA. HOW DO WE KNOW HOW TO MITIGATE IMPACTS WHEN WE'RE NOT GOING THE BASIC THINGS TO GET THE -- DOES IT NEED TO BE A DOUBLE RIGHT LANE.

WHEN YOU UNLOAD 20,000 PEOPLE OUT OF THE FOOTBALL STADIUM, HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN A MANNER THAT DOESN'T JAM UP THE WHOLE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE CITY. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT.

WE ALWAYS SEEM LIKE WE GOT A HAND TIED BEHIND OUR BACK. WE ASK EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO THESE THINGS. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY IF WE'RE REQUIRING IT.

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>> CARL STERN WESTBOUND IS THEN ONE LANE. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

IT'S RIGHT TURN ONLY INTO 130 NORTH. >> IT'S TWO LANES UP UNTIL YOU

GET TO ONE OF THE APARTMENTS THERE. >> RIGHT.

WESTBOUND FROM CHRIS KELLY, EVEN IF IT'S TWO LANES AT THE BEGINNING, IT GOES DOWN TO ONE LANE, -- ONE LANE AND TWO LANES EACH WAY TO GET ON TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

THERE'S ONE LANE THERE. IF WE CAN DUMP MORE INTO THE WESTBOUND CARL STERN.

IT'S STILL ONE LANE OVER LANDLOCK. IT CAN NEVER BE EXPANDED.

>> THE TURN LANE IS ON THE EAST SIDE. >> GOING EASTBOUND.

>> IT'S WESTBOUND. >> EAST SIDE OF 65 GOING WESTBOUND.

IT WOULD BE A RIGHT TURN LANE THAT LET G GET PEOPLE TO TURN NORTH.

>> RIGHT NOW TRAFFIC BACKS UP. TRAFFIC BACKS UP FROM 79 CARL STERN.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD RIGHT TURN LANE IN. WE FIX THAT PROBLEM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUSH MORE TRAFFIC ON THE 675. TO ME, IT'S A DESIGN ISSUE TODAY. YOU DESIGN IT AND YOU WOULDN'T BUILD IT TODAY BECAUSE 675 CAN'T

SUPPORT MORE TRAFFIC. >> IT TOOK ME 20 MINUTES TO GET TO SHOPPING CENTER OVER ON FRONT STREET TO THE MY HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LOWE'S. IT TOOK 20 MINUTES.

IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED. >> IF WE DESIGN IT TODAY, IS THE DESIGN STILL APPLICABLE IN FIVE,

SIX, SEVEN YEARS? >> WHEN YOU COLLECT TRAFFIC DATA, YOU CAN GO UP TO FIVE YEARS. IT IS A PROJECTION. THE LJ18 WILL TAKE TRAFFIC

COUNTS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT DESIGN WILL BE. >> LIKE HIGH FUNCTIONING CITY.

YOU WILL HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS DESIGN AND PUT ON THE SHELF. THEN OKAY THIS DEVELOPMENT FINAL GOT GOING. LET GO CONSTRUCT IT. IT'S BEEN THE DEVELOPERS COMING.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIX A ROAD AND DESIGN A ROAD FROM FOUR YEARS AGO.

NOW WE'RE SO FAR BEHIND THAT LIKE THE SOUTHEAST LOOP IS GOING TO CHANGE THE TRAFFIC HERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL DO. THEN YOU HAVE 79 THAT WILL CHANGE TRAFFIC.

WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING DESIGNED IN A MANNER WHEN PATRICIA SAYS THIS IS THE NEW

THING TO HIT. WE CAN HOLD OFF AND BID IT. >> YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC WILL BE LIKE WHEN THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL OPENS YOU.

WE SPEND THE MONEY NOW TO DESIGN THE INTERSECTION AND THEN FIND OUT YOU DON'T NEED IT.

SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, IT'S DIFFERENT, NOW YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY.

>> TIA SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. >> WE WILL COORDINATE.

ISD IS A STAKEHOLDER IN THIS PROJECT. WE WILL TAKE THEIR TIA DATA FOR THE INPUTS ALSO WITH THE TRAFFIC COLLECTION DATA THAT WE WILL TAKE FOR THE PROJECT.

THEN, REMEMBER THAT THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN DOES HAVE CARL STERN FROM CHRIS KELLY EASTWARD.

IT IS A CAPITAL PROJECT AS WELL FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THE DESIGN COULD STILL FACILITATE

FOR THAT FUTURE DESIGN FOOTPRINT AS WELL. >> JUST ONE CLARIFICATION.

SOME OF US WERE ON THE LONG RANGE FACILITY PLANNING AT THE ISD.

THEIR PLAN IS ONLY MOVE ONE GRADE PER YEAR. WHEN IT OPENS IN THE FALL THEY ONLY MOVED THE TENTH GRADE. THE NINTH ALREADY THERE. THEY ONLY MOVING THE TENTH GRADE FROM THE CURRENT HIGH SCHOOL. THEN IN 2027 IT WILL BE THE 11TH GRADE.

THEN 2028 WILL BE THE FULL HIGH SCHOOL, 9, 10, 11 AND 12. I DON'T THINK WHEN THIS OPENS IT'S GOING TO CHANGE MUCH -- ISD WILL CHANGE UP. I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER

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ISSUES. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM SOONER THAN LATER.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LIMITED DATA WITHOUT THE TIA. >> I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE TALKING WITH ISD. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT DEDICATING THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT'S ALL THEIRS. MAYBE COST PARTICIPATING AND PAYING TO MOVE THAT FENCE AND BUILD THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK WE SHOULD TALK TO THEM TO MAKE THIS INTERSECTION GOOD AND PICK UP SOME OF THAT COST LIMIT.

>> WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED. >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GORDON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.1.

[10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-XXX of the City Council of the City of Hutto, Texas determining costs and calling a public hearing to consider levying assessments on property located within the Prairie Winds Public Improvement District Area #2; including a presentation of service and assessment plan for said area; directing the publication and mailing of notice of such public hearing; and take appropriate action. (Alberta Barrett)]

>> ALBERTA BARRETT FINANCE DIRECTOR. FOR TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM, WE HAVE KYLE WITH P3 TO TALK THROUGH OUR SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

ALSO, BART FOWLER WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT A MINOR CHANGE ON THE RESOLUTION AS FAR AS THE

TIMELINE THAT'S COMING UP. I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO KYLE. >> WELCOME, WE HEARD JOHN

RETIRED. >> YES. HE DID.

HE'S OFF ENJOYING RETIREMENT NOW. YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS PRAIRIE WINDS IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPER TEAM AND THE CITY STAFF AND CONSULTANTS HAVE PREPARED THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION. JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, PRAIRIE WINDS. IA2 IS APPROXIMATELY 62.67 ACRES WITHIN THE PRAIRIE WINDS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THE ANTICIPATED TO CONTAIN 192 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THERE WILL BE THREE DIFFERENT LOT TYPES 45, 50-FOOT AND 60-FOOT LOT TYPES.

THERE'S A MAP TO IDENTIFYING THE AREA. PRETTY LARGE DOCUMENT.

I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MAIN DON' DON'T -- COMPOS OF THE DOCUMENT.

WE IDENTIFY THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FUNDED FROM THE IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO ASSESSMENTS AND BONDS RUBBER ISSUED. THEY INCLUDE THE IA2'S PORTION OF THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS OF THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT VERSUS THE IMPROVEMENT, TO IMPROVEMENTS IDENTIFIED BENEFIT ONLY THAT SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENT AREA.

WE ALSO HAVE ESTIMATES OF THE ANTICIPATED BOND ISSUANCE COST ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THE IMPROVEMENT AREA TO BONDS AS WELL AS THE FIRST YEAR ADMINISTRATION EXPENSES.

THE AUTHORIZATION -- $9.34 MILLION IS JUST THE COST FOR THE IA2 INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S $198,110, MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED BASED OFF THE ESTIMATED VALUE FOR THAT AREA. HILLTOP SECURITIES.

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THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND UNDERWRITER PREPARED PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF THE BONDING CAPACITY FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT AREA. THESE NUMBERS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE ON FINAL PRICING.

BASED ON PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS, THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO IS $6,947,000. WE ESTIMATE THAT THE AVERAGE ANNUAL INSTALLMENT FOR THE LOT TYPE 4. WHICH THE 45-FOOT LOTS TO $41,909 FOR THE 60-FOOT LOTS.

THAT'S BASED ON THOSE ILEDUCATED BASED ON ESTIMATE BUILD UP VALUES.

YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT BUILD UP VALUES FOR EACH LOT TYPE. IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS, THOSE ARE CONSISTENT WHAT WAS DONE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE AT THE TIME THOSE ASSESSMENTS WERE LEVIED. THE INSTALLMENTS WILL BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT IMPROVEMENT AREA 1 AND IMPROVEMENT AREA 2. WE ALSO PREPARED A PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT ROLLS. FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO, YOU WILL FIND THE UPDATED ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT.

EACH PROPERTY WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO IS IDENTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY I.D. AND IDENTIFIES THE LOT TYPE PRELIMINARY, OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENT AND PRELIMINARY ANNUAL INSTALLMENT DUE. WE HAVE FORMS OF THE BUYER DISCLOSURES FOR EACH LOT TYPE IN IMPROVEMENT AREA TWO. WE ARE NOT ADMINISTERING THE BUYER DISCLOSURES.

THAT'S RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER OR HOMEOWNERS TO ADMINISTRATOR.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE IA2 OR THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE

ASSESSMENT PLAN. >> QUESTIONS? YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR FROM BART

ON THE CHANGE? >> I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE DISCLOSURE PAGE. I WAS CONTACTED THIS PAST WEEK BY A REAL FOR FOR -- REALTOR FOR PHASE ONE WHO TRYING TO PURCHASE A HOME. THEY WERE REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THE DISCLOSURE INFORMATION FROM A CERTAIN BUILDER.

THERE WAS CHALLENGE THERE TO WHERE THEY WERE GIVEN DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT HAD DIFFERENT PAYOFF AMOUNTS FOR THE LOT AND WHEN THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT HOW DO I PAY THIS OFF EARLY, WHAT'S THE TOTAL PAYOFF. THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

THAT WAS REALLY CONCERNING ME. I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE DEVELOPED A VERY STRINGENT FINANCING AGREEMENT THAT SAID WE WANT TO BE ULTRA TRANSPARENT TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING HOMES HERE. THEY ARE PAYING EQUIVALENT TAX RATE OF 3X.

I KNOW THE STAFF KIND OF WORKING WITH -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE WORKING WITH P3 OR THE HOME BUILDER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING VERY DILIGENT IN FOLLOWING UP WITH THESE HOME BUILDERS THAT THEY ARE BEING SUPER TRANSPARENT WITH THESE HOMEBUYERS OF EXACTLY

WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO. >> FOR OUR SIDE AS ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE ACTUALLY THEY CAN GO IN AND SEARCH FOR BY ADDRESS OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

EVENT CAN GO ON AND PULL AND LOOK UP ANY SPECIFIC PROPERTY WITHIN THE PIT AND PULL THE LATEST ASSESSMENT PLAN AND BUYER DISCLOSURES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR LOT TYPES.

THAT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. THEY CAN ALSO REACH OUT TO OUR ADMINISTRATION LINE THE NUMBER AND E-MAIL IS ON WEBSITE TOO IF THE REALTOR STRUGGLING TO GET THE DOCUMENT FROM THE HOME BUILDER. THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO OUR WEBSITE AND GET IT FROM THEM.

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WE DON'T ADMINISTER THE BUYER DISCLOSURE. WE PREPARE A FORM THE BUYER DISCLOSURE THAT'S PART OF OUR ASSESSMENT PLAN. WE'RE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE TRAINING WITH HOME BUILDERS OR DEVELOPERS IF THEY NEED TRAINING ON DOING ADMINISTERING THE BUYER DISCLOSURE OR WHERE THEY CAN GET THOSE FORMS HOW THEY CAN FIND THEM.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE INVOLVED IN. >> I WANTED TO BRING IT UP HERE.

IT CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK IT'S ON P3. IT'S THE BUILDER.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE CAN DO IF YOU CAN PROVIDE TRAINING IF THAT CAN BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY OR IF THE CITY ASKED YOU IF YOU WILLING TO DO THAT MAYBE THIS OR THE CITY NEEDS TO TRAIN THESE BUILDERS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE -- THAT THE HOMEOWNERS KNOW EXACTLY THE INFORMATION THEY ARE GETTING THEY THEY WHERE TO --

THEY KNOW WHERE TO FIT IT. -- GET IT. >> DO WE KNOW THE BUILDER?

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> I WAS HERE LAST MEETING. GAVE YOU OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPER UPDATE. WE ARE THE MANAGING DEVELOPER. YOU MAY KNOW THIS.

TROPHY SIGNATURE HOMES IS BUILDER AFFILIATE OF OURS. WE ARE ONE IN THE SAME.

WE ARE THE SAME COMPANY. WE KIND OF BRAND IT THAT WAY. ONE OF THE BILLERS IS TROPHY SIGNATURES. I FULLY HEAR YOU. IT'S NOT A SIMPLE OF A TRANSACTION WHEN GET IN THESE DISTRICTS. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU WE DO TRAIN OURSELVES TO KNOW THESE THINGS I HEARD YOU. WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.

WE WILL. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE THIRD-PARTY REALTORS WHO COME IN WITH BUYERS. THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT OUR INTERNAL SALES FOLKS HAVE GOTTEN. THAT CAN SOMETIMES BE A POINT OF CONFUSION.

WE DO OUR BEST TO REFER OUR BUYERS TO P3'S WEBSITE TO HAND THEM THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION AT CONTRACT AND SEE IT AGAIN AT CLOSING WHEN THEY SIGN EVERYTHING.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU. WE DO THE TRAINING.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER AND WE CAN MAKE AN EFFORT. >> AN EXHIBIT TO THE FINANCE AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED. YOU HAVE ISSUE IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE BONDS. IN ADDITION TO AREA TWO BONDS THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE PIT FINANCE AGREEMENT. YOU PROBABLY NEED THE DEVELOPER TO REPORT BACK THAT THEY GOT THE CORRECT FORM FROM THE PFA, MAYBE REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR THE COUNCIL.

>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN BE MISUNDERSTOOD.

IF YOU GUYS JUST COMMIT TO FOR ME, COMMIT TO MAKING SURE IT'S DONE.

I THINK TO HAVE A SIGN, A SIGN OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING IT'S PIT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS LONG AS THAT'S BEING DONE I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN REAL QUICK IF WE FIND OUT POTENTIALLY SOMEONE CIRCUMVENTED THE RULES. I WOULDN'T WANT TO HOLD IT UP.

JUST TO SUBMIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REINFORCE WITH OUR PEOPLE AND ALL THAT.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. >> I DON'T THINK IT REALLY INTENTIONAL.

IT WAS PROBABLY LACK OF TRAINING AND LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. >> ALL RIGHT, BART IS UP.

>> I'M BART FOWLER. PLEASURE TO SERVE THE CITY BOND COUNCIL.

ONE CHANGE IS IN YOUR PACKET HAVE TO DO WITH THE HEARING FOR THE LEVY OF THE ASSESSMENTS.

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ONE OF THE ACTIONS IS AUTHORIZE PUBLICATIONS THAT OCCUR BEFORE YOU LEVY THE ASSESSMENT.

THIS WEEK WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER AND HIS TEAM. DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT TO YOUR MARCH 12TH MEETING. THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE. MARCH 5TH TO MARCH 12TH.

WE'LL BE BACK ON MARCH 5TH TO AUTHORIZE AND MARKET THE BONDS AND BACK ON MARCH 12TH TO SELL THE DEBT AT THAT TIME. IT'S A RESOLUTION WHERE THE ONE CHANGE HEARING FROM MARCH 5TH

TO MARCH 12TH. >> DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RESOLUTION IN THE LAST ARE.

>> 042. >> BART IF WE WANTED TO PASS THIS WE WOULD PASS RESOLUTION

042 WITH THE ONE CHANGE? >> YES, IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOUR CITY.

I BELIEVE THE CITY SECRETARY HAS IT. YOU DO HAVE THE COMPLETE FORM.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION OF THIS ITEM? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE CORRECTED DATE TO MARCH 12TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

>> SECOND. MOTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER GORDON SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[11.1. Discussion and possible action on extending the City's Wastewater Certificate of Convenience and Necessity (CCN) to its extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) borders. (Mayor Snyder)]

HE PROVIDED YOU LEGAL INFORMATION. >> HOW YOU DOING SIR?

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERRINGS. COUNCILMEMBER -- COUNCILMEMBERS I GAVE YOU A MEMO ABOUT WHERE YOU SHOULD EXTEND TO ETJ BOUND RIS.

GIVEN THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION VIEW ON ISSUING CCNS, THERE'S NO WAY YOU WOULD GET IT ALL THE WAY TO THE ETJ BOUNDARY. CURRENTLY UNDER PUC, INTERPRETATIONS, YOU CAN ONLY GET A CCN ON AREAS WHICH YOU HAVE A DETAILED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT GOES DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE CONNECTION AND A PLAN FOR THE FINANCING OF THOSE FACILITIES. NOT ONLY YOUR FACILITIES WHICH IS SHOWN IN YOUR MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS SHOW THAT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COME IN AND SHOW EVERY DEVELOPMENT WHETHER IT'S CURRENTLY EXIST OR NOT AND WHAT IT WOULD LIKE INSIDE EACH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. WHICH IS AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK FOR ANYBODY TO PUT CCN APPLICATION TOGETHER TO SHOW THAT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT NEEDING TO PROTECT WASTEWATER INVESTMENT, PARTICULARLY THE INTERCEPTER LINE COMING DOWN EXPANSION TO THE SOUTH, WASTEWATER PLANT. WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO PROTECT THAT SERVICE AREA SO THAT WILL BE HUDDLE SERVICE AREA GOING FORWARD. CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE CCN NOW.

I FILED A BRIEF ON MONDAY WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION TO GET THEM OFF OF THIS POSITION THEY HAVE TAKEN RECENTLY AND MAYBE GIVEN US A LITTLE MORE SPACE WHERE YOU CAN GO IN AND SEEK AN APPLICATION, AT LEAST OUT TO AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE PIPES IN THE GROUND.

YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENT IN THE GROUND. IT WILL PROBABLY BE THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS BEFORE I GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION ON WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BACK OFF IT OR NOT. I SUSPECT THAT THEY WON'T. WHICH WOULD MEAN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO GIVE THEM LITTLE NUDGE TO GO BACK TO THE

WAY THEY WERE DOING IT BEFORE. >> CAN WE PULL UP A MAP OF OUR CURRENT WASTEWATER CCN?

>> THERE ARE INTERACTIVE MAPS ON THE CCN WEBSITE. >> I WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR US TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE ETJ. TO YOUR POINT, WE DO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE PRETTY CLOSE TO

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WHERE IT'S NOT WE DON'T HAVE A CCN. NO ONE HAS IT.

IT SEEM TO ME, WE CAN'T DO IT WE START CONTEMPLATING WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO THAT POINT TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOOK BACK IN 20 YEARS AND GO WOW, BIG CHUNK OF OUR CITY IS BEING SERVED BY SOMEBODY ELSE OR PACKAGE PLANT WHERE VARIOUS THINGS LIKE PUTTING IN ALL OUR

-- >> MAYOR SNYDER, IN 2005, SAN ANTONIO FILED CCN APPLICATIONS TO GET ADD 270,000 ACRES INTO ITS WASTEWATER CCN. TCQ EVENTUALLY ISSUED THAT IN 2013. TOOK US EIGHT YEARS TO GET THOSE.

>> THAT MAYBE IT. >> I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN APPLICATION FOR SAN ANTONIO FOR 50,000 ACRES. THAT'S THE ONE WHERE WE HAVE JUST STALLED OUT COMPLETELY.

>> THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE -- YOU CAN SEE ETJ LIMITS IN BLUE. THE CITY LIMITS ARE IN RED.

THEN YOU SEE LIKE RIGHT UP ALONG THE CITY LIMITS WE'RE ESSENTIALLY --

>> THAT AREA ON THE EASTERN EDGE, SOUTH OF 79 IS ONE THAT YOU NEED TO PROTECT AND THEN

THAT AREA JUST NORTH OF 79 AS WELL. >> NORTH OF 79, WHICH IS EAST OF COTTONWOOD OVER THERE BY CULVERT. TO ME THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE WE HAVE THE CITY, WE HAVE CITY LIMITS UP IN THERE. THEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S COMING IN, POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN. WE DON'T HAVE A CCN THERE.

SOUND LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS RIGHT NOW THE PUC IS STUCK IN A MODE WHERE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANY KIND OF EXPANSION. WE'LL KNOW MID-SUMMER HOW THAT TURNS OUT.

IF IT'S NOT GOING IN OUR DIRECTION WE NEED TO APPROACH OUR STATE LAWMAKERS.

>> WE CAN FIND SOME OTHER TRADE ASSOCIATION TO PUSH THAT. >> I GUESS THIS CONVERSATION TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I WAS TOLD TO JAMES IT'S A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. DOES THE COUNCIL FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO WORK ON WAYS TO ADD --

MAKE THE GRAY TURN BLUE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. EVEN BEYOND CCN, THERE ARE PROBABLY STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO MAKE IT LESS ATTRACTIVE FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO COME IN AND TRY TO SERVE IN THOSE AREAS. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

>> ONE OF OUR ISSUES WEST OF 130 THE NORTH SIDE, I BELIEVE WEST OF 130, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OR NORTH, IT WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR CCN.

THEY WANT TO DO A PACKAGE PLANT. IN MY MIND, WHEN YOU GET TO THE NORTH SIDE, YOU GUYS SEE THIS AS

AN ISSUE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. MAKING SURE HE'S STAYING ON IT. >> IF YOU RECALL, WE HAVE FOUGHT OFF THREE OR FOUR MAYBE FIVE PACKAGE PLANTS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

>> I THINK TWO THINGS WE DON'T WANT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE OVERBUILT ON CAPACITY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SERVING ENOUGH AREAS TO USE OUR CAPACITY. WE DON'T WANT PACKAGE PLANTS. WE WANT TO AVOID THAT.

THOSE TWO THINGS SAY, YES, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT IT.

>> I GUESS WE'LL JUST TRY TO GET YOU BACK HERE IN 3 TO 6 MONTHS, GET AN UPDATE.

IF NOT WE CAN START PRESSING OUR LUCK TO PEOPLE TO REPRESENT US AND HELP US WITH THIS.

TO ME, THEY ARE THE ONES PUSHING THIS UNFETTERED GROWTH. EVERYBODY WANTS TEXAS TO BE THE FASTEST GROWING STATE. BUT THEY ARE FORGETTING ABOUT US AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOUTHERLY THESE PROBLEM -- SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS THAT THE GROWTH IS CAUSING. IT'S KIND OF TOUGHER EACH TIME THEY DO ONE.

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I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CITY THAT WILL INCORPORATE EVERYTHING BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MIKE'S PACKAGE PLANT CAUSING PROBLEMS IT WILL BE ALL BUZZ OF DECISIONS MADE BY

PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS AND THINGS. >> MAYOR COUNCIL.

DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PRESERVE HUTTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM?

EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEM 12.1H. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION READING THAT? WE'LL DO ITEM 12.1. RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE.

>> PRESERVE HUTTO IS TRACK WEST 130. IT APPLIED FOR A PACKAGE PLANT DISCHARGE FROM INSIDE HUTTO'S CCN. STAR RANCH DISTRICT PROTESTED THAT PERMIT APPLICATION. THAT WE HAD A HEARING ON THAT LAST YEAR.

WE GOT A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS LAST WEDNESDAY. THE TCQ COMMISSIONERS OVERTURNED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES FROM THE STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS.

MEANING THAT TCQ, COMMISSIONERS ARE RECOMMENDING THE ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT TO PRESERVE HUTTO TO BUILD THIS WASTEWATER PACKAGE PLANT TO SERVE WHAT IT PLANS I THINK IT'S CURRENT PLAN IS ABOUT 310 BUILT TO LEASE TINY HOMES ON THAT TRACK. WE'LL NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER TO APPEAL TCQ'S DECISION. I VISIT WITH THE DISTRICT'S LAWYER JUST BEFORE I GOT HERE.

THEY HAVEN'T ACTED ON THAT YET BECAUSE TCQ HASN'T ACTUALLY ISSUED THE FINAL ORDER.

BUT 25 DAYS DAYS FROM TCQ ISSUET ORDER TO FILE A MOTION. THAT'S THE TCQ SIDE ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS INSIDE HUTTO'S CCN WE FILED CEASE AND DESIST PETITION ASKING PUC TO ORDER PRESERVE HUTTO TO NOT PROVIDE RETAIL SEWER UTILITY SERVICE INSIDE HUTTO'S CCN. THAT DOCKET IS STILL HUNG UP AT THE PUC BECAUSE AFTER WE FILED THAT THE DEVELOPER WENT IN AND FILED A STREAMLINE EXPEDITED RELEASE PETITION WHICH MEANS IF YOU OWN 25 ACRES OR MORE, YOU'RE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, YOU CAN FILE A PETITION WITH THE PUC TO HAVE YOUR PROPERTY REMOVED FROM THE CCN. IF IT'S NOT RECEIVING SERVICE.

THEY FILED THAT. WE ASKED THAT THE CEASE AND DESIST MATTER BE ABATED.

IF THEY GET THEIR PROPERTY REMOVED FROM YOUR CCN OUR CASE AND DESIST ACTION IS MOOT.

THAT'S BEEN HUNG UP IN THE PUC ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR MONTHS NOW.

IT WAS FINALLY DEEMED ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE LAST WEEK, MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO WHICH MEANS IN MID-MARCH MAYBE LATE MARCH, THAT AREA WILL BE REMOVED FROM YOUR CCN.

ONCE IT'S REMOVED, THAT STARTS A TIME CLOCK ON COMPENSATION. WHICH IS THEY HAVE TO PAY THE CITY -- THEY HAVE TO COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR CERTAIN STANDARDS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE PROPERTY FROM YOUR CCN. THAT IS SORT OF WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.

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WE NEED TO -- CITY MANAGER AND I DISCUSSED SOME PRELIMINARY TERMS REGARDING A SETTLEMENT OFFER.

MONETARY AMOUNT TO ASK THE DEVELOPER FOR COMPENSATION SINCE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PUC COMPENSATION PROCEEDING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN

GO INTO -- >> THAT NUMBER WAS DISCLOSED IN THE MEMO.

SOME OF THE ACTIONS YOU CAN TAKE IS TO HAVE THE PRESERVE HUTTO MATTER BROUGHT BACK WHEN HE HEARS MORE FROM THE STAR RANCH ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN A MOTION FOR REHEARINGS.

WE CAN BRING THAT BACK ON THE 19TH. THEN THE SECOND PART WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE MR. FREELAND AND THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE THE OFFER. SETTLEMENT AS REQUESTED IN THEIR

MEMO. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNSEL? I GUESS WE'LL SEE YOU UPSTAIRS.

WE GOT LEGAL QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. >> NEXT ITEM, 11.2.

[11.2. Discussion and possible action on the design of Hutto Lake Park Playground project (CIP P34-2025) with MWM DesignGroup, Inc. (Mayor Snyder)]

DISCUSS IT. IT WAS TWO DAYS AGO. >> I THINK IT WAS TODAY.

>> THE ONE FROM PATRICIA. FROM MY STANDPOINT, I APPRECIATE PATRICIA PUTTING ALL THIS OUT IN WRITING. CITY MANAGER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT.

FROM WHAT I READ ON THIS, BASICALLY, STAFF CONSULTANTS WENT OPPOSITE WAY AND I THINK HER SENTENCE MONITOR CHANGES BINED WITH SCOPE CONDITION WITH APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.

I ALWAYS GET ACCUSED GETTING INTO THE WEEDS. ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HIT DATES. I HEAR THIS STUFF AND IT'S STUFF I ALWAYS KIND OF THOUGHT.

I'M LIKE MAN. WHAT DO WE GOT TO DO -- WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS HAPPENING? IS THAT YOU ULTIMATELY? IS IT SOMEBODY ELSE? EVERYBODY PROJECT WE HAVE IS NOT HITTING DEADLINES. I SEE THIS, I'M LIKE OKAY. I'M GETTING A CLEARER PICTURE.

I'M JUST LIKE, MAN, SO FRUSTRATED. TRYING TO BE VERY PROFESSIONAL.

>> YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I GUESS, ULTIMATELY, HOW DID

THIS HAPPEN? >> FOR THE RECORD. I'M THE CITY MANAGER.

THIS TIES INTO 11.3 SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCILMEMBER KING WILL BE LOOKING AT TOO.

NOT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH. SOME OF THIS STUFF I MAY SAY NOW MAY CARRY OVER INTO THAT ITEM AS WELL. IN IDENTIFYING HOW THIS HAPPENS SPECIFICALLY.

I SHARED SOME OF THIS WITH YOU IN E-MAIL EARLIER TODAY. FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE AND THE PUBLIC. THERE'S A FUNCTIONAL BUILT-IN DISCONNECT RIGHT NOW IN OUR SYSTEMS THAT ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. HERE'S WHAT IT IS.

WHENEVER THE CITY GOES TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT YET COMPLETELY KNOWN.