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[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

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>> IT'S 7:00. WE'RE CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY FEBRUARY 19TH, 2026 TO ORDER. START WITH ROLL CALL.

NEXT RISE FOR INVOCATION. IT WILL BE LED BY ARTHUR SPENCE WITH EBENEEZER BAPTIST CHURCH.

>> GOOD EVENING. HEAVENLYFATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME COMING TOGETHER.

WE ASK BLESS THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCILMEMBERS. BLESS THE MAYOR AND ALL HIS STAFF. KEEP HIM IN YOUR HANDS AND PROTECTION AND GIVE HIM WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU WANT HIM TO DO. CONTINUE TO MOLD AND SHAPE WHICH YOU HAVE THEM TO BE. WE THANK YOU FOR CITY OF HUTTO AND MAKE US TO BE.

LET US BE BLESSING TO SOMEONE ELSE. WE COME TO CITY OF HUTTO TO BE A BLESSING. LET US HAVE OVERFLOW UPON OVERFLOW.

WE GIVE ALL AT HONOR AND PRAISE IN PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS. -IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I DIDN'T SEE ANY.

MOVE ON TO -- >> WE GOT ONE E-MAIL. >> WE DID.

[6.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

ITEM 6.1.

>> THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS SUBCOMMITTEE MET THIS WEEK. WE HAVE ONE NAME TO NOMINATE FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE AND ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

NAME IS JOEL DAN. I LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPOINT HER.

>> SECOND. >> WHAT WAS THE NAME AGAIN? >> JOEL DAN.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SUBCOMMITTEE. >> NEXT ITEM 6.2.

WITH DID NOT MEET ON HISD. 7.1.

[7.1. Capital Improvement Transportation Projects (CIP) Updates and Presentations (Patricia Davis)]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, PATRICIA DAVIS, INTERIM CITY ENGINEER.

THIS IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECT UPDATE FOR ONLY THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

THIS IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL UPDATE. JUST FOCUSING ON TRANSPORTATION.

THE LAST QUARTER REPORT WAS PRESENTED DECEMBER 2025. >> AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

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UPDATE, WE PRESENTED TONIGHT A VERY HIGH LEVEL ACROSS CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR TRANSPORTATION, LOOKING AT THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL SCHEDULE FOR QUARTER BASED ON CALENDAR YEAR IS HOW WE REPORT CONSTRUCTION AND JUST PROJECTS FOR DELIVERY. QUARTER ONE REPRESENTS CALENDAR YEAR '26, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH. FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO FISCAL YEAR, THIS IS QUARTER TWO BECAUSE WE START CITY OF HUTTO IN OCTOBER 1.

WE TRACK PROJECTS AND FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO TRACK PROJECTS AND MONITOR THEM, RED, YELLOW AND GREEN. FOR THE COLOR CODING, FOR THE TRACKING OF THE PROJECTS, RED REPRESENTS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE WE'RE CALLING AT-RISK. THERE'S SOMETHING IN THAT PROJECT THAT IS AT RISK. THE GREEN ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON SCHEDULE.

THE YELLOW ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON HOLD OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT GOTTEN STARTED WITH THE PROJECT. AS I WALK THROUGH THE SLIDES OF EACH PROJECT, I'LL PRESENT THAT INFORMATION. THE ANNUAL SIDEWALK PROJECT IS A COMPONENT THAT FISCAL YEAR WE'RE GONG TO INCORPORATE THE ADA TRANSITION MAN FUNDING FOR THE PROJECTS.

FOR T4, WHICH IS FM1660 SOUTH AT U.S. 79. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE RED COLOR CODING ON THIS PROJECT DOES REPRESENT -- THIS PROJECT IS BEING COORDINATED THROUGH MULTIPLE AGENCIES.

IT HAS THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD AS WELL AS THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THEIR TRAFFIC DIVISION.

THE CITY WAS ON TRACK WITH PRESENTING THIS PROJECT FOR BIDDING.

WE HAD PRESENTED AND PROVIDED THE INFORMATION TO UPRR FOR THEIR PREEMPTION.

THIS PROJECT IS STILL AT RISK BECAUSE IT'S STILL BEING COLLABORATED AND COORDINATED WITH UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE PARTIES TO DISCUSS HOW WE MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND CONTINUE ON TRACK WITH WHAT THE CITY OF HUTTO HAD PROJECTED THAT WE WILL BE READY TO BID IN QUARTER TWO OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. OUR CONSULTANT HAS PROVIDED AND PRESENTED THE INFORMATION. IT IS STILL DELAYED BY TXDOT AND UPRR.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READ IT RIGHT. THE Q2, 2026 IN RED, THAT'S THE

DAY IT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. IT COULD SLIP TO Q3? >> YES.

WITH COUNTY ROAD 137, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAD A COORDINATION WITH TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AT THEIR DISTRICT LEVEL AT THE GEORGETOWN AREA OFFICE AS WELL AS THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE USING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM PORTION TO BID AND CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT ON CITY FUND. IT DID REQUIRE COORDINATION WE HAD AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE CITY OF HUTTO WE DID MOVE THE AT RISK AHEAD OF TXDOT.

WE BID THE PROJECT WITHOUT THE APPROVALS. THAT IS ALLOWING US TO STAY LITTLE ON TRACK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER 26 DETAIL Q2. WE ALREADY OPENED BIDS BUT WE'RE IN THE EVALUATION PERIOD. WE HAVE MEETING AND SUBMIT OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT -- WE'RE HOPEFUL WE CAN PRESENT THIS

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PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION AWARD IN APRIL. HAD WE WAITED FOR THE TXDOT AUTHORITY, WE WOULD NOT BE BIDDING OR SENDING THIS PROJECT OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR ANOTHER MONTH. LIVE OAK. THIS PROJECT IS A PART OF CLOSEOUT FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. WE HAVE DETERMINEDDED IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS CURRENTLY WORKING ON INSTALLING RIBBON CURB AND PAVEMENT UNDERWAY ON LIVE OAK FOR THE PROJECT.

WE STILL HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND UTILITY COORDINATION WILL BE A PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED. THIS PROJECT I WOULD CONSIDER THE AT RISK IN TERMS OF IT'S TBD BUT WE STILL HAVE THE SPENDING RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE'LL HAVE TO BE REACTIVATED WITH THAT COORDINATION. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS THE

FULL RECONSTRUCTION AS PLAN. NOT THE TEMPORARY OVERLAY? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN LIKE A YEAR WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEED OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. DO WE KNOW HOW LONG WE IDENTIFIED WE NEED THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY ON LIVE OAK? >> IT HAS BEEN A YEAR. >> SEEM LIKE OUR PROJECTS ARE EITHER WAITING ON RIGHT-OF-WAY OR WE GO AHEAD AND KICK THEM OFF IN CONSTRUCTION AND DEMAND THEM TO KEEP ON SCHEDULE. HOW DO WE MOVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PROCESS UP?

>> WHAT I SEE BEING THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD CONSTRUCTIONS AND/OR UTILITY WORK. IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION OCCURS AFTER DESIGN IS COMPLETE.

THAT'S A DESIRE TO MET GAIT RISK IN THE SENSE OF YOU'RE NOT FROM PROCURE TOO MUCH EASEMENT.

IF WE WISH TO HAVE THEM RUN CONCURRENTLY, WE WOULD BEGIN EASEMENT ACQUISITION AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION BEFORE COMPLETION OF DESIGN. WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THERE ARE GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE SOMETHING

DIFFERENT. >> I THINK THEY'RE AN EASIER WAY.

WE OVER COMPLICATE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW OTHER CITIES FIGURED OUT HOW MUCH ROUGH THEY NEED. IS THERE NOT A LEGAL AGREEMENT THAT CAN BE MADE THAT SAYS WE NEED UP TO FIVE BEING CONSERVATIVE, MAYBE THREE FEET. SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

WE AGREE TO THE PRICE AND THEY SIGN IT TO BE DETERMINED. LAND CONTRACTS ARE PURCHASED ALL THE TIME BASED ON THE SURVEY. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING ALL IN SOMEONE'S YARD OR FRONT DOOR. IF WE'RE TALKING A FEW FEET LIKE LIVE OAK.

IT SEEMS TO ME WE ALWAYS WAIT. IT'S LIKE WE'RE DRAGGING A PROJECT OUT.

I WOULD THINK MOST ENGINEERS KNOW APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET. TO WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT 99 OUT OF 100 TIMES TO BE THAT WAY AND GO TO RIGHT-OF-WAY TO GET TO 20 FEET.

IT SEEM WE WOULD SAY TO THE LANDOWNERS WE NEED 20 TO 25 FEET.

EVERYTHING IS BASED ON THIS DEAL FINAL DESIGN. IS THERE NOT AN EASIER WAY -- PEOPLE JUST WANT THE DAMN ROAD BUILT. HE'S TWO OR THREE MONTHS AWAY FROM TERM LIMIT. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF A ROAD.

THEY TOOK THE SIGN DOWN. I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT HERE.

WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COUNCIL? >> IF YOU ARE WILLING TO -- >> WE HAVE TO BUY AN EXTRA FOOT.

WE'RE NOT TALKING BIG TIME MONEY RIGHT? >> IT DEPENDS.

BUT YEAH. IT CAN REALLY DEPENDS. >> THESE PEOPLE THEY SHOULD GIVE

IT TO US AND WE BUILT A ROAD THEY WERE PROMISED IN 2018. >> THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY WAS THE

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RIGHT-OF-WAY AMOUNT INCREASED IN TERMS OF THE INITIAL DESIGN STARTED I BELIEVE IN '21 BEFORE ME. THERE WAS NO RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION BECAUSE THE DESIGN WAS TRYING TO MAINTAIN IN THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHEN THE PROJECT SCOPE ADDED TO TAKE ALL THE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND, THAT REQUIRED ENCORE AND ALL THE OTHER UTILITIES TO COLLABORATE DUCK BANK. EACH UTILITY PROVIDER IT WIDEN TO WHERE THE UTILITY COORDINATION WITH ENCORE REQUIRES A LOT MORE.

THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY COMPONENT IS NEEDING TO GO TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER AND PREPARE EXHIBITS AND DOCUMENTS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT BETWEEN 50 OR 100 SEPARATE RIGHT-OF-WAY EASEMENT DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE COLLABORATING NOW ON LIVE OAK THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL

SCOPE OVER THAT YEAR OF 2022 TO 2024. >> IT'S ON EACH SIDE.

>> I BELIEVE THERE'S LIKE 25. PARCELS. >> WE HEAR FROM THOSE PEOPLE.

WHATEVER THE COMMUNICATION IS, SOME OF US -- WE'D BE A HERO IF WE SAY CAN YOU SIGN THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE IF WE CAN GET ALL THIS DONE. IF IT'S THIRD-PARTY AND THEY'RE DOWN TALKING TO PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO HAVE A LIVE OAK COMMUNITY MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOT TO DO. I HOPE THIS THING GETS BUILT BEFORE WHOLE NEW COUNCIL IS UP.

>> I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. >> TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, THE ITEMS THAT CAN FACTOR INTO PROJECTS BEING AT RISK OR DELAYS WILL BE THE UTILITY COORDINATION RIGHT-OF-WAY.

TXDOT APPROVALS OR ANY OTHER COORDINATION. >> I SHOULD PRESS THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR FOURTH CITY ENGINEER. IT'S BEEN A PROCESS.

>> THIS CAPITAL PROJECT IS ACTUALLY IT'S IN CONSTRUCTION. IT ACTUALLY HAS TWO PROJECTS IN CONSTRUCTION. ONE IS THE SIDEWALKS YOU SEE THAT IN RED.

THAT COMPONENT IS AT RISK AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN NOTIFIED.

THE PORTION FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT ED SCHMIDT IS TRACKING TO BE COMPLETED IN THAT

COMPONENT. >> IS THAT NOTICE TO PUBLIC RECORD?

>> YES. >> FOR OUR T13, THIS PROJECT AT RISK THE PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. THERE'S A SIGNAL. LEAVE IT AT THAT.

FOR EXCHANGE BOULEVARD. THIS PROJECT IS ON TRACK FOR QUARTER TWO.

ACTUALLY, BIDDING IS GOING TO BE QUARTER TWO. I SHOULD HAVE UPDATED THIS ONE ACTUALLY. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT YOU ALL APPROVED SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE K3S. MAIN HIPPO WAY AND FM1660. THIS PROJECT WAS ADDED PART OF FISCAL YEAR '26. WE ANTICIPATE TO COME TO YOU FOR AWARD DESIGN CONTRACT IN QUARTER ONE OF 26. BECAUSE THERE'S STILL DISCUSSIONS AND COLLABORATION OF HISD BUILDING AND DESIGNING THIS SIGNAL THIS COMPONENT IS FURTHER DELAYED.

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>> QUESTION. ISD HAS NO HAD APPROVAL FROM TXDOT FROM THAT INTERSECTION?

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. >> THEY ANNOUNCED IN A BOND OVERSIGHT.

>> I'M NOT FAULTING YOU AT ALL. I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT IT WAS BOND OVERSIGHT GROUP.

I COULD BE WRONG, TXDOT APPROVED IT. IT WAS ON A PRESENTATION.

TXDOT APPROVED THAT HIPPO WAY 1660 NORTH INTERSECTION? THEY'RE NOT TELLING THE CITY?

>> WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN THEY SUBMIT. >> THEY ARE COORDINATING WITH US ON THAT WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PART OF THAT

OF THE DESIGN. >> I'M NOT ANYTHING DISPARAGING ISD OR STAFF.

>> THEY NEED THE APPROVE. THEN THEY GET TO BUILDING PERMIT.

>> YES. THAT IS CORRECT. THEY ARE BUILDING PERMIT.

I WANT TO SAY CAN YOU CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GOT THEIR BUILDING PERMIT DELIVERED? I BELIEVE THEY DID GET IT DELIVERED.

>> IN ORDER TO THAT, I THOUGHT THE HOLD UP WAS THIS INTERSECTION.

>> IT WAS THE TIA BEING THE INTERSECTION TIA BEING ACCEPTED BY TXDOT.

IT MAY BE THAT SHE DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW. THE EVIDENCE MAY HAVE BEEN

PROVIDED SO THOSE THINGS CAN GET CLEARED OUT. >> WHAT BOTHERS ME WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO DO THE TAI. WE'RE WAIT ON THEN TO NEGOTIATE WITH TXDOT.

THEY TELL EVERYBODY IT'S THE CITY SLOWING THEM DOWN. LESSON IT'S NOT OUR FAULT, WE'RE STANDING AROUND WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE AT THE ISD TO DO THEIR JOB, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD PARTNERSHIP TO TELL EVERYBODY IT'S YOU GUYS FAILING. WHEN IN REALITY THEY GOT TO START THE PROCESS SOONER. THEY ARE ONES BUILDING THE SCHOOL NOT HAVING BUILDING PERMITS. I'M UNITING JAMES -- I'M WRITING JAMES EVERY WEEK WHERE WE'RE AT.

PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I WOULDN'T HAVE BUILT A SCHOOL WITHOUT A SIGNAL. ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN GIVE US ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE AT SO WE CAN

HELP THE PUBLIC KNOW. >> OKAY. COUNTY ROAD 163.

THIS PROJECT HAD TWO COMPONENT PART IN THEIR DESIGN WAS TO DELIVER A SCHEMATIC AS WELL AS A PSNE FOR INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS. THE SCHEMATIC IS NOT COMPLETE. WE CAME TO YOU ALL IN AUGUST FOR PRESENTATION OF THE SCHEMATIC. THE GOAL WAS TO TRY TO PRESERVE SIX LANE IN THE CORRIDOR.

THE COLLABORATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR IN THIS SEGMENT IS STILL TAKING SOME TIME. WE ARE AT RISK THAT WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED THAT COMPONENT.

COUNTY ROAD 199. THIS JUST AN UPDATE. YOU ALL APPROVED A SUPPLEMENTAL.

THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE THAT THE ANTICIPATED CALENDAR YEAR QUARTER THREE WHICH IS BY END OF SEPTEMBER, TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT WHERE THE UTILITY AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITIONS WILL CONTINUE INTO 2027. BEFORE THIS PROJECT WILL BE CONSTRUCTION. WE ANTICIPATING IN THE FIVE-YEAR CIP FOR CONSTRUCTION IN '27.

FOR THE ALLIANCE BOULEVARD PROJECT, THIS PROJECT IS CATEGORIZED AT RISK.

THERE ARE SOME DESIGN OR DISCUSSIONS AND COLLABORATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL SCOPE THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY TEAM AND THE CONSULTANTS ON THIS PROJECT.

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THE ALLIANCE BOULEVARD PROJECT THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE DESIGN BY IN FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FM YEAR IN '27, WILL BE THE POTENTIAL FOR IN THE FIVE-YEAR CIP FOR THIS PROJECT FOR

CONSTRUCTION. >> YOU SAY ADDITIONAL SCOPE. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN WHEN THIS IS PRIOR TO PATRICIA. WE GET PITCHED A ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

COUNCIL VOTES. GO START THE DESIGN. HERE WE ARE A YEAR LATER, THERE'S ANOTHER SCOPE CREEK. WHICH I IMAGINE SOME ENGINEERS GOING TO COME BY AND WASN'T MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE A SCOPE. IS BECAUSE WE KICK IT OFF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING GOOD ENOUGH JOB WITH WHAT WE WANT. WHAT'S CAUSING THE SCOPE CREEK ON.

>> WITH THIS PROJECT, THE DRAINAGE AND THE PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE VOLUME -- THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'LL BE MANEUVERING IS POTENTIALLY ADDING THE SCOPE.

THE CONSULTANT IN THE DRAINAGE DESIGN, WE WERE ANTICIPATING YUTE UTILIZING EXISTING DETENTION PONDS. WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE -- WE WEREN'T SNAILING CURVING DE W-- WITHVOLUMES AND THE TRAFFICY THAT WAS PERFORM, THERE'S MORE NEED FOR TURN LANES WITHIN THE CROSS SECTION NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND AT THE CROSS STREETS THAT WE'RE NEED TO WIDEN LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND WE DO HAVE TO INCLUDE SOME DRAINAGE. THE DISCUSSIONS OF ADDED TRAINAGE WHICH IS INCREASED COST AND SCOPE. WE COLLABORATED WITH TXDOT BECAUSE THERE'S AN INTERSECTION AND WIDENING THAT HAPPENED OFF 79 TXDOT APPROVED THERE WAS MORE TRAFFIC ADDED. WE KNOW THAT TXDOT DID NOT APPROVE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ADD INTERSECTION WITH TURN LANES, THAT WAS NOT AWARE AT THE TIME OF SCOPING.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> I THINK WE NEED TO STOP ANY NEW PROJECTS UNTIL WE TOGETHER OUT A PROCESS. WE'RE PUTTING STUFF IN DESIGN AND GETTING 90% AND COME BACK AROUND AND START OVER. IT'S LIKE A RECURRING NIGHTMARE. THIS IS LIKE -- I THINK WE BUDGET $500,000. I THINK HALF MILLIONS WE DIDN'T KNOW TXDOT WILL DO A WIDENING.

WE ALLOWS SICK HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL REBUILD.

WE WANTED TURN LANES AND DRAINAGE. I'M LIKE WE GET THIS FAR IN A PROJECT ONLY TO REALIZE -- WE CAN'T EVEN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE STILL FIXES THIS STUFF.

I KNOW THIS WASN'T YOU. I CAN'T EVEN VOTE FOR ROAD PROJECTS ANYMORE.

I GOT TO SEE THE PLANS AND HAVE A DETAILED ANALYSIS SO WE COME -- WE GET TO STRAP THOSE PLANS

AND MOVE OVER. >> INNOVATION BOULEVARD. THIS PROJECT IS PROJECT THAT WAS ADDED IN UNTIL YEAR 26 DUE TO STAFFING CHANGES. WE HAVE IN THE BEEN ABLE TO

CONSULT WITH THAT CONSULTANT. >> ARE WE PUTTING SO MUCH IN TO WHERE WE'RE JUST SPENDING

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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THEN SPEND MILLIONS? IS IT 40 SAY, LO -- IS IT BETTET

SAY, LOOK WE'RE GOKE TO COME BACK HERE A YEAR FROM NOW. >> THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS.

I COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION. NOT FOR THE SAME REASON FOR DIFFERENT REASONS BUT THE SAME CONCLUSION. AT LEAST TEMPORARILY I HAVE TOLD THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE NOT STARTING ANY NEW PROJECTS EXCEPT FOR THE CRITICAL PATH ONE.

I INTENDED FOR THAT TO BE TEMPORARY UNTIL WE GET STAFF BACK UP AND TO REASSESS IT.

FROM I'M SEEING, YES, WE HAVE TO MOVE PROJECTS ALONG. >> YOU GUYS FEEL THAT WAY?

>> YES. >> I THINK PEOPLE RATHER SEE ONE PROBABLE GET DONE A YEAR ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW WHY MATT LEFT. I DON'T WANT PATRICIA LEAVING BECAUSE SHE'S LIKE, I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE. MAYBE WE'LL DO CIP UPDATE.

>> SURE. >> WAS IT OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR MEETING.

I WAS DISCUSSING THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF PROJECTS PER PROJECT MANAGER LIKE EIGHT?

WE'RE LIKE 20? >> I THINK THE INDUSTRY IS MORE LIKE EIGHT.

WE'RE RUNNING MORE LIKE 20 PROJECTS PER PROJECT MANAGER. >> THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> THEY'RE NOT SMALL SIMPLE PROJECTS EITHER. >> SH130.

THIS PROJECT IS ON TRACK. COUNTY ROAD 132. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE STILL ON TRACK AND THIS PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED FOR BIDDING THIS FISCAL YEAR IN QUARTER THREE.

LIMMER LOOP. JUST WEST OF THE PRIOR SEGMENT. THIS PROJECT ALSO HAS SCHEMATIC COMPONENT THAT IS STILL COLLABORATING WITH DEVELOPMENT AND HAS NOT -- WE HAVE NOT CONFIRMED WHAT THE SCHEMATIC FOOTPRINT IS ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

>> ETHOUGHT WE NEEDED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THIS. >> DEVELOPER CAME BACK.

THEY MADE MODIFICATIONS. WE REACHED RESOLUTION WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE GAS STATION.

THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE STILL COLLABORATING FOR THE FOOTPRINT.

>> WE'RE STILL DOING STUDIES ON THE INTERSECTIONS ON THIS? >> YES.

TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. BY THE CONSULTANTS. BECAUSE THE ICE STUDY WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE. THOSE ARE ADDED SCOPE DESIGN COMPONENTS.

>> THAT'S ON US. WE VOTED FOR THAT ONE. TAKE THAT ONE.

IF WE DO IT, WE MAY NOT NEED TO WIDEN THE ROAD AS MUCH. >> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

>> FOUR LANES WILL BE TWO LANES AND SUICIDE LANE WHICH WILL HELP TO THE EAST SIDE TOWARDS 1660 WHERE WE JUST BUILT THE INTERSECTION FOR TWO LANES INSTEAD OF TEARING IT UP AND

BACK TO FOUR. >> CORRECT. EACH OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT WILL BE JMT AND WSB IN THE CONSIDERATION IF THEY NEED TO DO FURTHER ANALYSIS, THOSE WILL BE SUPPLEMENTS A THAT NEED TO BRING BACK TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL.

LIMMER LOOP IS ALSO A SEGMENT EAST OF THE DESIGN. THIS ONE ALSO IS THE CORRIDOR COMPONENT. THE SAME IN COORDINATING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

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WE APPLYING FOR THE ICE ANALYSIS THAT WILL BE ADDITIONAL SCOPE FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL AS WELL.

CARL STERN AT CHRIS KELLEY. KNOWN AS FM685. YOU ALL AWARDED DESIGN CONTRACT WITH LJA. THIS PROJECT STILL ON TRACK ON SCHEDULE.

LIVE OAK AT ED SCHMIDT. THIS PROJECT WAS ADDED IN FISCAL YEAR '26.

HAS NOT BEEN INITIATED DUE TO STAFFING CHANGES AS WELL. THIS PROJECT WE'LL TALK WITH JAMES I GUESS. WE'LL HAVE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD.

I THINK THIS ONE HAS DISCUSSIONS OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR OTHERS INSTALLING THIS, MAKING

THESE IMPROVEMENTS. >> DOES IT SAVE YOU GUYS TIME IF A DEVELOPER DESIGNS IT, BUILDS IT? IS THAT EASIER ON YOU ALL TO REVIEW WHAT THEIR CONSULTANT OR

IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TEEM? >> AT THIS POINTER IT WILL BE EASIER.

>> WE CAN REIMBURSE THEM FOR BUILDING THE ROAD? I SEE ANOTHER CITIES IN MY DAY JOB, YOU WALK IN, THEY'RE LIKE THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE. IF YOU DO ALL THAT, WE THINK WE'RE OKAY. YOU GO BACK AND YOU RUN YOUR NUMBERS.

WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED. WE HAVE TO SUCK IT UP AND EAT IT.

IF IT'S A PARTNERSHIP TO WHERE WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS, WE HAVE THE MONEY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER. YOU GUYS DO THIS WE'LL REIMBURSE YOU.

THAT'S EASIER ON YOU GUYS, I THINK AT SOME POINT THE PREVENT SECTOR IS GOING TO COME IN OR YOU WILL PAY THE CONSULTANTS. TO ME, IT WILL BE BETTER USE PRIVATE PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.

NOT FOR STAFFING BUT FOR ACTUAL -- WHEN THEY MISS A DEADLINE IT HURTS THEM.

>> MAYOR, ON THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, I REALLY THINK THAT WHOEVER ENDS UP BUILDING THE EXTENSION OF L LIVE OAK THEY SHOULD TAKE THIS INTERSECTION AND IMPROVE IT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> I AGREE. >> WE NEED TO GET THE DESIGN GOING BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE THE ROAD PLANS POTENTIALLY COMING UP BUT WE STILL HAVE --AWAY IT TAKE TO DO SIGNAL ON THE SIDE?

>> ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WITH NO ISSUES. >> THANK GOD IT'S INTERSECTION AND CITY ROAD AND A CITY ROAD. THERE'S NO RAILROAD AND NO TXDOT IN THE AREA IN THE COUNTY.

>> OVERALL, THE TRANSPORTATION CIP IS PROGRESSING. THERE ARE COMPONENTS AT RISK.

WE ARE MONITORING AND TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT RISK. WE WILL MAKE PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES WITH THE NEW PROCESS OF REQUESTING CHANGE ORDERS FOR SCHEDULES.

WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THAT THE NEXT UPDATE. >> QUESTION OR COMMENTS FROM

COUNCIL? >> APPRECIATE IT. THANK STAFF AND CITY ENGINEER

CAUGHT IN DIFFICULT PLACE NOW. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. >> WE CAN HIRE BUNCH OF STAFF.

YOU GOT HUNDRED AND MILLIONS I WOULD IMAGINE TO KEEP THEM BUSY. AFTER A YEAR OR TWO, WE GOT TO DO THAT. WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE CIP PLAN, YOU GUYS WORK CAN BE VERY UP FRONT WITH US IN TERMS BASED ON MONEY THAT YOU HAVE AND THE STAFFING.

IF YOU WANT TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS. THERE WAS TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE FOR DRAINAGE DITCHES. IF YOU HIRE FOUR PEOPLE THEY RUN OUT OF WORK IN SIX MONTHS WHY YOU DO THAT. MAYBE IN OUR CIP PLAN, INSTEAD

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OF BEING EXCITED WE JUST FOCUS ON THE TOP 15 AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEM FUNDED AND ALL THAT.

DON'T BE AFRAID TO TELL US WE'RE BEING CRAZY. >> POINT TAKEN.

THANK YOU. >> THEY WON'T TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE CRAZY.

THEY'LL BE LIKE, OKAY, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S

HAPPENING. WE WANT MORE AND MORE. >> I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT MYSELF.

[7.2. Presentation, discussion, and possible action related to the provision of wastewater service to ATX Legacy Park formerly known as ATX Capital. (Amanda Brown, HD Brown Consulting)]

BROWN CONSULTING. IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING, AGAIN, WITH THE PROJECT I THINK MANY OF YOU WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH. CALLED LEGACY PARK HUTTO.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY COME TO COUNCIL WITH A PREVIOUS PROJECT AND WE'RE GIVEN FEEDBACK.

WE GOTTEN BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE NEW PROPOSAL AS WE'VE ADDRESSED THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL COMMENTS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A REVIEW OF OUR SCR AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS PROPERTY IS -- THIS IS A JURISDICTIONAL MAP. IT'S GOT AN ODD JURISDICTION. WE'RE IN THE HUTTO ETJ.

WE ARE IN JONAS WATER CCN. WE ARE NOT IN ANYBODY'S WASTEWATER CCN.

THIS IS A QUICK TIMELINE WE'VE BEEN KIND OF CHEWING ON THIS PROJECT FOR OUR WHEEL.

WE INITIALLY APPROACHED THE CITY IN SEPTEMBER 2023. SINCE THEN IN 2024, WE SUBMITTED A BUDD AND ANNEXATION APPLICATION AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THAT APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL IN 2025. THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL INCLUDED INCORPORATION INTO THE CITY OF HUTTO WATER AND WASTEWATER CCN. OBVIOUSLY ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL THEN WAS BASICALLY YES, WE ARE HAPPY TO SERVE YOU WASTEWATER. POLICE GO BACK TO JONAH AND WORK OUT A WATER SOLUTION WITH THEM. WE DON'T WANT TO INCORPORATE YOU IN THE WATER CCN.

WE REALLY WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND HAVE A NEW PROPOSAL FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

THIS IS OUR LAND USE PLAN. IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO BE KIND OF A COHESIVE BUSINESS PARK THAT PROVIDES SORT OF A MIX OF USES BUT A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.

SMALLER SCALE. KIND OF A BUSINESS PARK, OFFICE PARK.

IN FRONT OF YOU ARE TWO SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS FOR WATER. THE WATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST ON THE LEFT IS THE JONAH SCR AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE HUTTO SCR.

WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK TO JOAN IN AND FIND A WATER SOLUTION. IT INCLUDED REDUCING OUR REQUIRED LUES. THE LINE THAT YOU SEE OUTLINED CIRCLED IN RED WILL REQUIRE AN UPGRADE. THAT'S CURRENTLY FOUR INCH. WE'LL BE UPGRADING THAT TO 12 INCHES. THIS SOLUTION WORKS WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

THAT IS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT.

JONAH CANNOT PROVIDE YOU WITH FIRE FLOW SERVICE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE US WITH THE NECESSARY PRESSURE. PART OF OUR REQUEST IS TO ALLOW US TO USE CITY OF HUTTO WATER FOR FIRE FLOW ONLY. THAT MEANS WE WON'T BE USING WATER REGULARLY. IT WILL BE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY OR A FIRE THAT WE HAVE TO USE THOSE HYDRANTS. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC WATER LEAN THAT WILL HAVE FIRE HYDRANTS ATTACHED TO IT IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE CITY OF

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HUTTO'S LUE ABILITY TO PROVIDE WATER TO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CCN.

I KNOW THAT'S A BIG PROPERTY TO SERVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE WATER CCN.

THIS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THOSE LUE ALLOCATIONS. THIS IS THE PREVIOUS WASTE WEATHER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST FROM HUTTO. WE HOPE TO GET A NEW ONE.

HOPEFULLY, IF STAFF IS DIRECTED TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROCESS A NEW WASTEWATER SCR. OUR LUES HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO 216 FROM THE 650.

OUR UNDERSTANDING THERE IS NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. SOUTH OF STEINTH -- SOUTH OF 79 THROUGH THE MEGA SITE. WE'RE HOPING TO GET NEW SERVICE EXTENSION SUCCESS AND INCORPORATE INTO THE CITY OF HUTTO WASTEWATER CCN. THE THIRD COMPONENT OF THIS REQUEST IS THE EXTENSION OF LI AMERICA MER LOOP. ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. IN OUR SITES IN RED AND THE LIMMER LOOP EXTENSION GOING HERE. THAT'S THE CITY OF HUTTO.

THIS IS THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY MASTER TRANSPORTATION THAT SHOWS LIMMER LOOP GOING JUST NORTH OF OUR SITE. OUR REQUEST IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR WILLIAMSON COUNTY. OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THESE LINES ARE FAIRLY ARBITRARY AT THIS HIGH LEVEL. THIS WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT THIS SITE. FIRST ONE WE HAVE A COHESIVE, BUSINESS PARK AND INDUSTRIAL PARK. HAVING A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY OVER THE UTILITY EASEMENT WOULD CREATE A HUGE BARRIER BETWEEN WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

THE SECOND REASON SUSPECT THAT LIMMER HAS NO PLAN BEING CONSTRUCTED.

IT'S AT LEAST 20 YEARS AWAY FROM BEING CONTEMPLATED. IF THE PLAN WAS FOR THIS TO BE CONSTRUCTED INTO THE NEAR FUTURE, WOE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE IT.

FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE A LARGE VACANT LAND. OUR REQUEST HERE -- THIS IS OUR SOLUTION IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IN THE COUNTY IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN PINE COMMIT TO ANNEXING INTO THE CITY AFTER IT'S BEEN DEVELOP.

WE WANT TO PART OF THE CITY ON THAT. THIS IS PRETTY CRUCIAL FOR THIS PROJECT. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WILLIAMSON DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS MAY NOT ALIGN PERFECTLY WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO INCORPORATE CITY OF HUTTO REQUIREMENT INTO A -- MAKING SURE IT'S BUILT INTO CITY OF HUTTO STANDARDS. IT'S STILL A HIGH QUALITY PROJECT AND HAVING THAT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY TO THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE PROPERTY TAXES AND SALE TAXES AND ALL THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS THAT COME HAVING A PROJECT LIKE THIS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

>> IS THAT SO YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE COUNTY? >> YES.

>> CAN THAT NOT BE FIXED? CAN WE NOT HAVE ANNEX THEM AND US FOLLOW THE COUNTY?

>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HOLD OUR OWN MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN OVER WILLCO THEY ADOPT THEIR. IT'S NOT REALLY THAT FAR OFF. IT WILL BE HAVING -- WE THODE TO LOOK AT JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. THIS IS IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION AND CROSS CONNECTION. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GREEN LINE COLOR IS.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH WILLIAMSON COUNTY DESIGN IS AND OUR YELLOW IS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER CUTTING THROUGH THEIR PROJECT. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ONE COULD SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE. I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET IT LOCKED

IN BEFORE THEY ANNEX. >> THESE ARE JUST ARBITRARY LINE ON A PIECE OF PAPER TO ME.

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WE HIRE CONSULTANT. THEY THROW SOME DOTTED LINES ON A PIECE OF PAPER ON LAND THAT'S NOT EVEN IN OUR CITY'S JURISDICTION. THEN THE COUNTY THEY GO AND THEY PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE SAME THING. THEY GOT A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT. SINCE NOBODY -- COUNTY NOT BUILDING ANY ROAD OUT HERE.

SOUTHEAST LOOP. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY'RE NOT BUILDING ANY ROAD.

I DON'T SEE THEM BUILDING ROADS ON THEIR PLAN. THAT WOULD TAKE THEM -- THAT WOULD BE A BIG CHANGE. IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST FIGURE OUT.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING ALL THIS. TO ME IT'S A WHOLE REASON IS TO WAIT ON ANNEXATION AND FOLLOW EVERYTHING. TRY TO SIMPLIFY THING.

TO ME THE WHOLE REASON YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COUNTY PLAN AN THIS IS JUST FARMLAND.

TO ME IT WILL BE BETTER FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND ANNEX NOW, TAX AND REGULATE AND FRUSTRATE YOU AND SHOW YOU THAT WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES. YOU DON'T SEE THAT ROAD COMING

TEN YEARS CIP. WE CAN'T EVEN GET THROUGH. >> IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE REROUTE? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUES.

DOES THAT COMPLICATE THE MATTER? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IT'S A VERY ARBITRARY LINE AT THIS POINT. THERE'S NO PLANS TO BUILD IT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS LIKE IN MAYBE 20 YEARS THEY'LL START THINKING ABOUT IT. I THINK ALSO THIS ONE AFTER TALKING TO THE COUNTY AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS THAT THE ALIGNMENTSLY BIT BETTER IN TERMS

OF CONNECTING TO CR395 CROSS -- ACROSS FROM 101 BEEN >> FOR LIMMER LOOP NOW, THE BLUE

IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL ROAD. >> I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION.

>> ON THE SOUTHERN END, YOU HAVE THE SQUARE IS THE CURRENT LIMMER LOOP THAT FOLLOWS PART OF THE

ORIGINAL. >> JUST TO SUMMARIZE. WE HAVE THREE REQUESTS.

HUTTO, WE'RE ABLE TO COME INTO CITY OF HUTTO WASTEWATER CCN AND TIE TO Y'ALL UTILITIES.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK OUT SOLUTION WITH JONAH, OUR PROPOSAL WAS ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. IT SOUND LEAK IS TO DO AGREEMENT TO MODIFY THAT ROAD.

WE REQUEST THAT STAFF DIRECTED TO ALLOW US TO START SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS.

>> IS THAT PERMANENT WATER FLOW OR JUST TELL JONAH? >> IT'S JUST UNTIL JONAH HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE IT. WE DID ASK FOR TIMELINE ON THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.

NOT PERMANENT, THERE'S UNKNOWN TIMELINE. >> I THOUGHT IT WILL BE WEIRD IF

IT WAS JONAH. AND WE HAD TO FLUSH LINES. >> WE'LL HAVE TO ASSESS THAT.

EVEN IF IT IS TEMPORARY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FLUSH BECAUSE IT'S ONLY USED FOR FIRE FLOW.

THEN WE'RE GOING -- THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOSS OF WATER. >> IF YOU PAY ENOUGH PROPERTY

TAX, WE'LL JUST DUMP IT IN THE DITCH. >> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE

CAN DO. >> THERE'S ALWAYS WAYS AROUND THINGS.

I KNOW BEFORE IT WAS MULTIFAMILY. YOU GUYS NOT THAT IT'S MARKET

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BASED, YOU GUYS LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS THAT MULTIFAMILY, OUR CITIZENS WIND UP ABOUT IT.

PHYSICAL AND INDUSTRIAL. I THINK SOME PEOPLE HERE WILL BE A LOT HAPPIER.

YOU GUYS WORK WITH JONAH TO EASE OUR CONCERNS IN TERMS OF -- >> WE HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA WATER STARTING LATER THIS MONTH. THAT DRIES UP IN A FEW YEARS. THIS IS A WAY IT SOUNDS LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH WATER THAT WE HAVE TODAY. MATTER OF TIME IN THE FUTURE WE CAN PULL THAT BACK AND THESE GUYS SEEM FLEXIBLE. WE DON'T LIKE IT WHEN IT COMES TO WATER USE. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND REDESIGN OF THE PLAN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF START DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES THE ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY. THE ROAD-IN A MANNER THAT LINES WITH COUNTY PLAN.

WE BRING THEM IN OUR WASTEWATER CCN. WE PROVIDE THEM WATER FLOW FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE LIKE SOMETHING THREE FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE WE'VE DONE OTHER

PEOPLE. DOES THAT HIT EVERYTHING? >> THAT'S IT.

>> SECOND. >> YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, JAMES, THEY HAVE THREE TO

FIVE YEARS OF WATER FLOW OR FIRE FLOW? >> NO.

WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. >> MOTIONED BY MAYOR SNYDER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[7.3. 2025 Annual Racial Profiling Presentation (Chief Jeffrey Yarbrough)]

HAVE A GOT A. NEXT WE ITEM 7.3.

>> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. JEFFREY YARBROUGH. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE THE RACIAL PROFILE DATA REPORT. WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL PROFILE, IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT INITIATED ACTION BASED ON AN INDIVIDUAL'S RACE, ETHNICITY OR RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL'S BEHAVIOR OR IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUAL AS HAVING ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THIS IS WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR US AS A GUIDELINE ON WHAT RACIAL FROM PROFILING IS AND WHO PER NOT TO DO.

THIS TYPE OF ACTION IS PROHIBITED. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED PROCESSES FOR CITIZENS TO FILE COMPLAINTS. WE HAVE PROCESSES AND POLICIES THAT REQUIRE SHIFT SUPERVISORS TO REVIEW AT RANDOM BODY CAM FOOTAGE, VIDEO FOOTAGE AND AUDIO RECORDINGS TO SEE IF THERE'S OUTLIER OR MAYBE THAT MAY BE OCCURRING WHERE OFFICERS DONE SOMETHING THAT'S CONTRARY.

WE HAVE DISCIPLINARY GUIDELINES SET UP IN OUR POLICY FOR ANY ACTIONS THAT DO NOT CONFORM TO THE POLICIES OR THE STATE LAW REGARDING RACIAL PROFILING. THE DATA THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO COLLECT BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE AND CAUSE OF THE DESIGNATION, IT'S COMPREHENSIVE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THE NUMBER OF STOPS THAT RESULT IN ARRESTS.

CITATIONS, WARNINGS GIVEN. THE GENDER. WE'RE LOOKING AT DURATION THAT THE STOP TAKE TAKES AS FAR AS AN OFFICER BEING OUT ON THAT CALL. ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE LOCATION. THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR TRAFFIC STOPS HAPPEN INSIDE OF OUR CITY STREET. NOT JUST ON THE HIGHWAYS. I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY

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IMPORTANT. IT SHOWS THAT HOUR OFFICERS ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDING THAT PROACTIVE POLICING AND RESPONSE TO CONCERNS THAT OUR COMMUNITY MAY RAISE.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU'LL SEE THE ETHNICITY BREAKDOWN AND THE RACE OF INDIVIDUAL STOP.

SOME PEOPLE MAY THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF YOUR CITY MAYBE X. YOU MAY HAVE THIS PERCENTAGE, WHY ARE THE NUMBERS DIFFERENT? WHEN YOU CONSIDER MOTORISTS, THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE PERCENTAGES WILL NOT BE A REFLECTION OF YOUR CITY DEMOGRAPHICS PER SE.

IT'S A REFLECTION OF THE MOTORISTS THAT DRIVE THROUGH YOUR CITY.

THE TRAFFIC STOPS ARE REFLECTION OF THE MOTORISTS THAT COME THROUGH THAT WE HAD ENCOUNTERED WITH WHEN IT COMES OTRAFFIC STOPS. THE GENDER.

THIS SLIDE IS ONE THAT I ALWAYS USE TO SAY WHO'S THE SAFEST DRIVER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. THE WOMEN ARE THE SAFER. >> THEY ARE TICKING UP

>> IT TICKED UP BIT. IT REALLY HAS. THAT JUST LET'S US KNOW THAT WE GOT TO DO BETTER AS THE MALE GENDER. THE FEMALE DRIVERS THE BETTER DRIVERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. JUST LIKE THEY ARE IF I OTHER COMMUNITY.

-- THEYARE IN OTHER COMMUNITY. HERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE I WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF.

OVER 11,000, ALMOST 12,000 STUDENTS WAS RACE KNOWN ON THOSE STOPS? OUT OF THE 11,000 -- ON 15 WERE KNOWN. SOMETIMES DURING THE DAY, YOU MAYBE AT JIM CAGE AND FRONT STREET. YOU GOT PEOPLE PARK OUT IN THE X. YOU'RE GOC SEE WHO'S THERE OR YOU MAY HAVE AT A STOP SIGN AND SOMEONE DRIVING AND FAILED TO HEAL. WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THE RACE OF THAT INDIVIDUAL. WHAT THAT DOES IT SHOWS THAT IT'S A GREAT INDICATION THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT OUT STOPPING PEOPLE FOR THE BASIS OF RACE. WE HAVE TO DOCUMENT WHERE THE RACE WAS -- SPEEDING IS A MOVING VIOLATION. HAVING A HEADLIGHT OUT IS A VEHICLE TRAFFIC VIOLATION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, WE HAVE AN EVEN MIX OF VIOLATIONS WHERE IT'S MOVING VIOLATION OR VEHICLE TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS IN OUR CITY.

WE ALSO HAVE THE RACIAL BREAKDOWN. WRITTEN CITATIONS VERSUS TRAFFIC SIGH SITUATIONS -- CITATION. I AM A FAN OF EDUCATING A COMMUNITY.

I'M FAN OF POLICING OUR COMMUNITY AS IF THEY WERE MORE THAN A COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE OUR FAMILY. IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO EDUCATE A PERSON, OR WE COME ACROSS A SITUATION WHERE WE STOP PERSON AND WE KNOW THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT GOING ON THIS PERSON TRYING GET FROM POINT A OR POINT B OR WHATEVER. WE POLICE WITH LEVEL OF GRACE.

SOMETIME WE WILL GIVE STUTIONS. OUR OFFICERS WANT OUR COMMENT TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT HERE AS A

HAMMER. >> IT LOOKS LIKE SNAPSHOT, IF YOU GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE.

RIGHT NOW WHITE PEOPLE ARE GETTING PULLED OVER FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC VIOLATION. THEY ARE GETTING TICKETED LESS THAN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

SOMEONE WERE TO TAKE, THIS SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE MORE TICKETS FOR WHITE PEOPLE.

DO WE EVER TRACK TO GO YEAR-TO-YEAR TO SEE THE TREND? FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS WE PULL OVER WHITE PEOPLE AND WE GIVE THEM LESS TICKETS AS COMPARED TO HISPANIC PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. THAT'S SOMETHING WITH OUR DATA ANALYST AND GETTING INDIVIDUALS IN THAT CAN ACTUALLY EXTRAPOLATE THAT DATA FOR US WE CAN EXAMINE IT MORE THOROUGHLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE -- I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST TREG TO -- JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT IN LIFE. THERE MAYBE CERTAIN SITUATIONS

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WHERE WE HAVE THE CHOICE WHAT WE CAN EXCUSE AND WHAT WE CAN'T. YOU GOT SOMEONE WITH NO DRIVER'S LICENSE AND NO INSURANCE AND THE VEHICLE EXPIRED. IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE TRIGGERS THE RESPONSE IN THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS THAT ARE GIVEN.

>> HOW FAR BACK -- OBVIOUSLY THE STATE REQUIRES THIS. WE HAVE MANY YEARS, DECADES

WORTH OF THIS DATA TO PROVIDE THE DATA SET? >> SINCE I STARTED, WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE OUR OWN IN-HOUSE DATA. TO COLLECT THIS DATA. THEY DONE THAT FOR THIS DEPARTMENT FOR YEARS. THIS SLIDE WILL TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS.

THOSE THAT WERE PENAL CODE VIOLATIONS. WHERE A PERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE IT'S DWI. THIS BREAK DOWN THAT. IT SHOWS YOU THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'RE REQUIRED AS A TIER TWO REPORTING AGENCY TO TRACK. NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING TEXAS RACIAL OFFICIALING. WE RECEIVED ONE FORMAL COMP COMPLAINTS ALLEGING LAIRM RACIAL PROFILING. WE -- WHEN THE VEHICLE PULLED OVER, THE INDIVIDUAL, THE MOTORISTS OPEN HIS DOOR PARTIALLY AND IT APPEARED THAT HE WAS DOING SOMETHING AROUND THE FLOORBOARD. THE OFFICER WALKED UP AND CLOSED THE DOOR.

MOTORIST DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE OFFICERS PUTTING HIS HASN'T HAND ON THE VEHICLE.

THERE WAS QUESTION THAT WAS INTEREST -- WE CAKE ANY COMPLAINT SERIOUS AND WE TOOK THAT COMPLAINT TO OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARD UNIT. SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE ENCOUNTERS PEOPLE FEEL A CERTAIN WAY AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANYTHING RELATED TO NOT IN THIS SITUATION IT WAS FOUND TO BE UNSUSTAINED.

THAT CONCLUDINGS THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR THIS YEAR. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 8-.1-TO 8.13

[8. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> FIX PULL 8.1 -- IF I CAN PULL 8.1 AND 8.5. >> 9 PLEASE AND 10.

>> I'LL MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 8.2, 8.3, 8.4, 1112 AND 30.

SECOND. IF >> YOU TWO OKAY WITH THAT? O

[8.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-044 authorizing the City Manager to execute an Individual Project Order (IPO) with WSB, in the amount of $95,000, for Owner's Representative services to support construction project management for City Capital Improvement Program (CIP) projects. (Patricia Davis)]

NEXT ITEM IS TIM 8- 8 -- >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M REFERRING TO PAGE 19 OF THE

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RACKET BEEN. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE SPLIP SLIP TARNAL -- HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW IS THIS BETTER TO MAKE US GET BACK ON PROJECTS?

>> I'LL START AND -- WAVE A NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT ARE NOW RAY CAN'T WE DID TALK EARLIER ABOUT NUMBER FOR FOR THIS IS ME RESPONDING TO THE THREATS I SEE GOING ON.

THIS ALLOWS US USE A THIRD-PARTY OSUN SETT SETTLEMENT. -- I LIKE THAT A GREAT DEAL.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS ON OUR ROTATION DO WE? >> WE HAVE THIS CONSULTANT AS

OWNER REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVE THER-- >> THE ONLY SMALL TYPE OF IT SAYS THIS IS ON PAGE 20. SAY BUDGET AMOUNT UP. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> WE DECIDE TO APPROVE WSB, THEY WON'TING COMING BACK.

WE DON'T SEE CONTRACTS COMING THROUGH WHERE THEY WANT TO DESIGN PROJECTS?

>> GASH BER WAS OUR CITY MANAGER. HELP, WOULD YOU PICK FIX INCOME I FEEL LIKE THERE A FUTURE CONFLICT. I THINK ITEME IT'S --

>> IF YOU WILL NET IN THE PACKET, WSB IS AN OUR A THEY WEE SELECTED FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ROTATION LIST. THERE'S BEN BERNANKE THEY HAVE FOR -- THEY HAVE STEINDESIGN PRT THEY ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING IT WITH THEM.

>> TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE POSITIONS WHERE THEY GET TO DRIVE MASTER PLANS THEN CREATE PROJECTS TO GET DONE. THIS IS THEM ACTING ON OUR

BEHALF TO MANAGE THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE. >> I DON'T WANT CONTRACTORS TO

BE USING WSB. >> THEY CAN'T TO THAT. WE CAN'T ASSIGN THEM AND THEY CAN'T ACCEPT TO BE ON ARON THAT T-- ON A PROJECT THAT THEY DESIGNED.

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>> AUTHORING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PROJECT ORDER WITH WSB IN THE AMOUNT OF $95,000.

>> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY COUNCILMAN MORRIS AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-0. ITEM 8.5.

[8.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-048 accepting and acknowledging the dedication of parkland in a residential community known as Emory Crossing. (Jeff White)]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. BACK IN FEBRUARY 20, 2025, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OR ISSUES WITH THE MAINTENANCE MANUAL OF THIS 22 ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN.

DEDICATED FOR THE PARK. THEN THROUGH APRIL 2025 THROUGH JANUARY 2026 STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR THE PROPERTY. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE OTHER WASN'T? WHAT ARE MAJOR CHANGES TO IT THAT NOW CORRECTED?

>> SURE, JEFF WHITE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION IN IN FEBRUARY 2025, THERE WAS NO MAINTENANCE MANUAL. THEY MADE THOSE CORRECTIONS GOING FORWARD WE ASKED THEM TO CREATE A MANUAL. WE WORKED TOGETHER OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS GETTING THAT

PERFECTED. >> THE SECOND THING, I LIVE IN HUTTO PARK.

I KNOW ALONG THAT CREEK, THAT'S DEDICATED PARKLAND. IS THAT KIND OF MERGES IN WITH THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THIS DEDICATED PARKLAND? IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT.

>> ULTIMATELY, THE CONNECTION TO GO TO CHANDLER ROAD. THIS IS A MAJOR CORRIDOR THAT GETS US THERE. IT'S ALREADY PUT IN. THIS IS WIN FOR THE CITY.

IT'S ADDITIONAL PARKLAND THAT WE GET TO CLAIM. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE LAST ONE, LOOKING AT THE MANUAL AND HOW DOES THE CITY ENFORCE -- WE GOT A MAINTENANCE MANUAL AND THINGS HOA HAS TO DO. HOW DO WE ENFORCE THESE RULES? WHAT KIND OF PENALTIES OR WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO IF THINGS AREN'T FOLLOWED? IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DONE

ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? >> I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MANUAL.

WE'LL SPOTLIGHT THEM PERIODICALLY. I WILL DO THAT PART OF MY DUTY.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING WITHIN THE MANUAL THAT SPECIFIES HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

HOW OFTEN THAT'S GOING TO BE? IS IT JUST -- DO YOU CHECK THEM? THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION, I THINK IF IT'S IN WRITING, GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO FULFILLING THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

>> THEY HAVE A CALENDAR AND A CHECKLIST THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DUTIES THAT WILL DUE MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, SEMI ANNUALLY.

THEY HAVE TO MODE TO CERTAIN HEIGHT AND STANDARD. THEY HAVE TO DOCUMENT THROUGH PICTURES. IF THEY'RE GOING TO CUT TREES THEY HAVE CUT THIS AMOUNT BACK OR DO THEIR NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS. THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DEBRIS CLEAN. IT'S STEPS THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A

CHECKLIST TO US. >> TO ADD TO THAT. I SEE THERE ON PAGE 492, IT DOES SHOW THIS DIFFERENT THINGS FOR MONTHLY, QUARTERLY SEMIANNUALLY. JUST DIDN'T READ IT.

>> YOU SPOT CHECK THAT TO MAKE SURE THEREAT AD-- SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ADHERING TO THE

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GUIDELINES? >> ONCE THEY BRING IN THE CHECKLIST, WE GO AND MAKE SURE AND VERIFY. IT'S SOMETHING -- THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME DOING THIS EVENT.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE IT GET THROUGH THE WRINKLES. ANY TIME I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY MAINTAIN IT TO MY STANDARD.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT 8.5. ACCEPTING ACKNOWLEDGING PARKLAND AND RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY KNOWN

AS EMORY CROSS. >> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE.

[8.9. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-049 authorizing the use of Community Benefit Fee Funds (CBFF) for the purchase of design plans for the Live Oak Extension project and directing staff to evaluate reimbursement from TIRZ No. 1. (Cheney Gamboa)]

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ITEM 8.9.

>> STAFF IS RECOMMENDING USING THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE FUND TO MOVE QUICKLY WHILE THE LETTER REQUEST THAT FUNDS BE USED DIRECTLY. CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THE URGENCY

BEHIND USING THE CBFF INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH TERSE? >> THE EDC IT WRITTEN LETTER OF SUPPORT INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET SUPPORTING USE OF THE FUNDS. WE FOUND A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE FUNDS WILL BE APPROVED USE AND WOULD BE SPENDED SOONER. IF THE PLAN OR THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL LOVE TO HAVE TIRZ FUND. WE CAN PURSUE THAT. IT WILL GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO

PURSUE THE PURCHASE OF THE DESIGN PLANS MORE QUICKLY. >> HOW DOES THE CBFF GET THE

MONEY BACK? >> THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TIRZ.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTS THE TIRZ TO REIMBURSE THAT THOSE HOW WE WILL STRUCTURE THAT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. WE EXTEND THE FEE FUND NOW TO PURCHASE THE DESIGN PLANS.

IF DIRECTED, WE WOULD PURSUE THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TIRZ. >> DOES THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT

WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE PLACE AND HAPPEN THE REIMBURSEMENT? >> CANDIDLY IT'S UP TO THE TIRZ ONE BOARD. THE LETTER THAT WAS INCLUDED WAS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE TIRZ ONE BOARD FROM THE EDC SAYING WE SUPPORT THIS USE OF YOUR FUND SHOULD YOU FIND THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE. WE CAN'T GUARANTEEING IN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE GOVERNING BODY FOR

THE TIRZ. >> THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE I WANT TO BE SURE IF WE

CAN TAKE MONEY FROM TIRZ, WE CAN REIMBURSE IT THROUGH THE TIRZ. >> WE CAN'T BE CERTAIN THE TIRZ WILL BE REIMBURSED UNTIL THE TIRZ BOARD MEET. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE

SURE. >> THIS WILL GET GEORGE. HE'S LOOKING IT UP.

WE APPOINT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THE TIRZ BOARD. THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL. YOU GUYS STRONGLY THINK ABOUT DOING THIS, I WOULD THINK THE PEOPLE WE APPOINTED, IT DOES FALL WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. IT IS EVEN SOME OF US ON THAT BOARD. I MAYBE ONE OF THEM. I'M NOT SURE.

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I WOULD GIVE YOU THAT LEVEL OF COMFORT. IT'S LEAK THE PARKS BOARD.

IF YOU WENT TO PARKS BOARD TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE CAN PUT PEOPLE ON THE PARKS BOARD THAT ADVISE US.

>> THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WE SECURED THAT FOR A VARIETY OF REQUEST AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EDC AND COUNCIL. THAT'S JUST AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH COMFORT AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES AND EXPENDITURE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WITHOUT BEING

THE GOVERNING BODY ITSELF. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. AUTHORIZING USE OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE FUNDS FOR THE LIVE OAK EXPLANATION PROJECT AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE REIMBURSEMENT FROM TIRZ ONE SPENDING APPROVAL FROM THAT BOARD.

>> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[8.10. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. 0-2026-008 amending the budget for FY 2026 for expenditures of the Hutto Economic Development Corporation and the Capital Improvement Fund. (Alberta Barrett)]

THESE PROJECTS TO EDC. I JUST PULLED IT FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO VOICE THAT. VOTE NO. THANK YOU.

I NEED TO DO BETTER ON MY NOTE TAKING. I HAVE A NOTE THAT SAYS NUMBERS ARE OFF. $74 MILLION NUMBER AT SOME POINT I THINK IT'S MORE IN THE A.I.R.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. $370 MILLION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION

FOR THIS? MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS.

ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-051 updating the City's Personnel Policy, Section 6.6. (Recording Time) to clarify timekeeping requirements for exempt and non-exempt employees. (Kristiana Spencer)]

MOTION PASSES 6-1. ITEM 9.1 COUNCIL I'M KRISTIANA SPENCER, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. THIS ITEM IS A PROPOSED UPDATE TO PERSONNEL POLICY SECTION 6.6. RECORDING TIME AT YOUR JANUARY 8, 2026 MEETING.

YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK REVISIONS REQU REQUIRE EMPLOYEEO RECORD TIME.

WE REPAIRED VISION AND STANDARDIZED TIME KEEP FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES.

NONEXEMPT REQUIREMENTS ARE REMAIN THE SAME. THEY WILL RECORD ALL HOURS WORKED, CERTIFY ACCURACY. RECORD ANY CORRECTIONS RESPONSIVELY.

THE KEY CHANGE IS THAT THE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES WILL ALSO RECORD TIME FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND ACCOUNTABILITY PURPOSES ONLY. THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR EXEMPT STATUS OR SALARY PAY PRACTICES. IF IMPROVED TONIGHT, THE REVISED POLICY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> ARE THEY GOING TO BE ALSO

ENTERING INTO A PROGRAM WITH THEIR TIME? >> CORRECT.

THEY WILL USE THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE USE THE EMPLOYEE SELF-SERVICE PORTAL THAT WE USE

FOR TIME KEEPING FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. >> ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T FEEL LEAK AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE DOCUMENTING THEIR TIME. AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE IS HIRED TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK. WHETHER IT TAKES 10 HOURS OR 40 HOURS THEN THEY GET THEIR JOB DONE. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE IT THEY SHOULD BE METRICS THEY SHOULD BE FOLLOWING. THEY SHOULD HAVE TASKS SET ASIDE.

I DON'T CARE IF THIS TAKES FIVE FIVE HOUR OR 100 HOUR. THEY NEED TO GET THEIR TASK DONE ON TIME. ITS TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. I'M AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE.

I BEEN NONEXEMPT EMPLOYEE. I HATE DOCUMENTING MY TIME BUT I GET MY STUFF DONE.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. THE ISSUE FOR ME IS THAT IN MY JOB, AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE I DON'T TRACK MY TIME. I DON'T GET OVERTIME OR COMP TIM.

OUR EMPLOYEES ARE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. THEY DO GET COMP TIME.

THEY HAVE A BENT THAT I DON'T GET. THAT'S I FELT THE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY ARE GETTING IT. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING THOSE 100 HOUR AND 80 HOUR WORKWEEK. I LOOK AT MORE AS A MEASURE, HOW GOOD JAMES IS DOING HIS JOB? IS HE UNDERSTAFFING DEPARTMENTS OR HAVING TO WORK 80 HOUR.

ON THE COUNCIL SIDE. NO MORE FTES. WE FEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIMPLIFY OUR PROCESSES. I'M WITH YOU. I'M LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT

ANGLE. >> AT MY DAYTIME JOB, WHEN YOU PUT IN SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, THEY WILL NOT DO IT. YOU KNOW WHAT, INC., GOING TO DO 40 HOURS, THAT'S IT. I'M OUT. I WORK DURING THE DAY.

I LEAVE HALF THE DAY. I'M GOING TO GET MY JOB DONE NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.

IF IT TAKES 40 HOURS. I'M GETTING IT DONE ON TIME. THAT WAS JUST IT.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE FEEL THE EXTRA PRESSURE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE IN THE

BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. >> I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMEMBER WARNER.

THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME WEEKS I'M GOING TO PUT IN LOT MORE HOURS AND SOMETIMES I WILL PUT MORE HOURS IN CITY COUNCIL. I ALWAYS GET MY JOB DONE. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OFFICIAL COMP TIME. IF IT'S IMPLIED YOU NEED TO TAKE CUKIA COUPLE OF HOURS OFF.

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GET YOUR JOB DONE. I THINK IT DOES -- I OUTLINED A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS WHY I THINK THIS IS A BAD IDEA. I'M NOT BEGINNING TO REHASH IT AGAIN.

>> REPERCUSSIONS IF THEY DON'T ENTER THEIR TEEM? >> THEY'LL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

FOR NOT ENTERING TIME. YES. >> I WANT TO READ FROM PAGE 661 WHICH IS THE RECORDING TEEM 6.6. DISCLAIMER HERE AT THE BOTTOM. THESE ARE ALL IN READ.

TIME RECORDED BY EXEMPT EMPLOYEES IS NOT USED TO CALCULATE PAY, DETERMINE MINIMUM WORK HOURS OR OTHERWISE EFFECT EXEMPT STATUS. JUST ABOVE THAT, SOME OF THE REASONS ADMINISTRATION COMPENSATORY TIME POLICY, REMOTE OR FLEXIBLE WORK ARRANGEMENT.

WORKLOAD ANALYSIS, OPERATIONAL PLANNING AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

MY PERSONAL EXAMPLE I BEEN ON MANUFACTURING LINES. MY BOSSES AND SUPERIORS AND RESEARCHER, THEY WOULD SAY, WE NEED MORE BODIES OVER HERE. JUST LOOKING AT MY DAY DO DAY WORK AND SEEING WHAT'S GONE ON IN THE MANUFACTURING, IN TIMES WHERE YOU NEED CRITICAL TIME, HAVING A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATEMENT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK OUT WHAT'S INTENDED. I DON'T THINK WHAT'S INTENDED EXCEPT FOR THESE THREE THINGS. IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED HERE IN THE CHANGES IN THE MANUAL.

I LIKE IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. WE DO AFTER COVID, THERE'S DIFFERENT TIME WITH FLEX WORK SCHEDULES. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE GOT STAFF WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS AND LATE AT NIGHT AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M OKAY WITH IT. THANK YOU.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.2. Consideration and possible action on directing staff on the adjusted scope for inclusion of the Certified Autism Center design elements and Resolution No. R-2026-052 authorizing the City Manager to execute Amendment No. 1, for design professional services with MWMDesignGroup, Inc. to increase original timeline by adding a period of 102 Days on the Hutto Lake Park Playground Project at no cost (CIP P34-2025). (Patricia Davis)]

INTERIM CITY ENGINEER. THIS RESOLUTION REQUEST IS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT THE CHANGE ORDER TO BRING THE SCHEDULE UP TO DATE FOR THE TIME THAT WAS ADDED TO THE CONTRACT FOR THE CONSULTANT. IN ADDITION, THAT WE ARE ASKING IF WE ARE -- CAN PROCEED WITH THE INCLUDING THE AUTISTIC CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS THE

PLAYGROUND THAT WAS SELECTED FOR THIS PROJECT. >> MY MAIN QUESTION ON HERE IT SAYS NO ADDITIONAL COST. I THOUGHT I REMEMBER HEARING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET KIND OF SENSE THE AUTISTIC PLAYGROUND IS SCALED DOWN WHAT WE'RE GETTING. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH -- ARE

[01:40:04]

WE GETTING FEWER PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? MAYBE THEY ARE DIFFERENT

DESIGNS. WHAT'S THE CHANGE IN SCOPE? >> CHANGE IN SCOPE WASN'T NECESSARILY FEWER EQUIPMENT. IT'S JUST THE SELECTION OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE AGES 2 TO 5 AND 5 TO 12 WAS GOING TO INCLUDE A COMPONENT SO IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE FOR THE STUDENT AUDIENCES THAT MAY REQUIRE OR NEED THAT COMPONENT FOR PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUND.

>> WE'RE STILL GETTING ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF PLAY SCAPES OR THINGS FOR THE KIDS TO DO.

IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY. I WAS FEARFUL THAT WE WERE GOING

TO GET LIKE HALF OF WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY GETTING. >> LET ME ADDRESS THAT.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR. IT DOES COST MORE TO BUY INCLUSIVE EQUIPMENT THAN DOES EQUIVALENT TYPE THING THAT'S NONINCLUSIVE. EVEN THOUGH THE ZONE, YOU'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING OUT BECAUSE THE DESIGN WAS FOR CERTIFIED AUTISM CENTER STUFF.

YOU WILL EFFECTIVELY HAVE MORE BUDGET DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO BUY OTHER THINGS OR TO DO OTHER THINGS IN PARK. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ALL INCLUSIVE STUFF. WE NOT MISSING OUT ON SCOPE. THEY DIDN'T SCOPE IT FOR NONCERTIFIED AUTISM. IF YOU SPENDING $100,000 IN MIESES -- FIVE PIECES OF

EQUIPMENT. >> THIS WAS A ONE LIKE A YEAR AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THE TIME DELAY AND THE CERTIFIED AUTISM CENTER EFFECTIVELY GOT BROUGHT INTO THE SCOPING AT THE BEGINNING. IT'S BEEN RUNNING THIS WAY THE WHOLE TIME.

>> WHAT IN THE AIRR. -- WE'RE GIVING 102 DAYS. MY RECOLLECTION 102 DAYS, THE PROJECT STILL BEHIND. THIS SHOULD ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD BE FINISHING CONSTRUCTION. IF YOU ADD 102 DAYS, YOU'RE STILL BEHIND.

>> IT'S 102 DAYS FOR DESIGN. >> DESIGN SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN SEPTEMBER.

YOU ADD 102 DAYS, WE'RE NOT ADDING 102 DAYS FROM TODAY, WE'RE ADDING 102 DAYS TO THE SCHEDULE. WHICH IS STILL DECEMBER AND YOU STILL TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

YOU NEED 160 DAYS JUST TO GET CAUGHT TO TODAY. >> AS FAR AS THE MATH GOES, OF TO RELY ON THEM TO TELL ME. I DO KNOW THIS WAS READY TO BID FOR CONSTRUCTION.

ALL WE'RE EFFECTIVELY DOING IS ASKING COUNCIL TO SAY YES, WE WANT TO DO THE INCLUSIVE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE AGAIN, LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE SAID IT WAS STAFF THAT DIVERTED THAT TRAIN.

I NEED YOU TO CONFIRM THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO OR NOT. THEN WE NEED TO EXTEND THEIR PROJECT. MAY BE THAT THEY STILL OUT OF COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THERE'S

REASONS THEY ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. >> WE CAN DO 102 DAYS PATRICIA,

WE'RE READY TO KICK THIS OFF TOMORROW. >> WE'RE READY TO BID.

YES, WE ARE. >> YOU WANT US TO 102 GETS CAUGHT UP TO WHERE IT NEED TO BE ASSUMING, YOU WANTING US TO APPROVE GOING THE ROUTE OF THE AUTISTIC.

I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE ANTICIPATED COST. IS THAT HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR

$100,000. >> GOOD EVENING, JEFF WHITE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND

RECREATION, I BELIEVE THE WHOLE PLAYGROUND WAS AROUND $226,000. >> YOU WANT US TO ADD OR AGREE

TO US. >> WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE BUDGET.

THE MATH -- >> WE HAD PAIGES AND STUFF AND WHAT'S GETTING CUT?

YOU CAN'T ADD WITHOUT TAKING AWAY. >> FROM THE PLAYGROUND?

>> WHAT ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO? >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE A PLAYGROUND DESIGN 11 MONTHS AGO.

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>> THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHEN DID WE DO THIS? LAST MARCH.

WE'RE SELLING THE PUBLIC ON ONE PLAN A AND WE END UP GIVING THEM PLAN B.

>> I BELIEVE IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, WE JUST PROVIDEDDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO UPGRADE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT APPROPRIATE FOR TWO AGE GROUPS FROM WHAT THE EXISTING OR CURRENT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS. IT DOESN'T HAVE PLAY SCAPES AND THINGS TO DO. WE'RE INSTALLING FOR THAT THE AGE APPROPRIATE AND SELECTED THE

TYPE OF EQUIPMENT >> I THINK I HAD PICTURES. I REMEMBER ASKING THEN DON'T WE

HAVE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY. >> I CAN'T BELIEVE REMEMBER WHAT I DID LAST WEEK LET ALONE WE

APPROVED. DOWN KING, THAT WAS REMARKS? >> YES, I BELIEVE IT WAS.

>> MARCH 27TH, WE KICKED OFF THE SIGNAL. >> PROBLEM IS, YOU WANT US TO DO THIS. WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. YOU GUYS DIDN'T GIVE USE PLAN.

LIKE A CATALOG YOU PULL THIS STUFF OUT OF? HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THERE? NOW IT'S GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FOR $200,000 AND WHATEVER PLUS DESIGN.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN ANYTHING. YOU GUYS SEEN SOMETHING? I DID WALK IT. I DID TO A WALK. IT WAS A SLIDE THAT WAS COVERED UP IN DIRT. THEY IT WAS A CONCRETE SLIDE. I DO REMEMBER WE WOULD TAKE THAT

OUT. >> WE DID TAKE THAT OUT? >> ARE THEY LEVELING THAT HILL?

>> THEY ARE DOING TO DO SOME GRADING -- >> THE DERT IS ERODE -- THE DIRT

EERODING INTO THE MULCH. >> THEY ARE DOING SOME GRADING ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUSHING WATER AND WE'RE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND ALSO MAKING SURE EVERYTHING DRAINS PROPERLY. THE PLAYGROUND VENDOR PROVIDED SOME RENDERINGS FOR WHAT THE PLAYGROUND WOULD LOOK LIKE, PROVIDED WITH US. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL

FOR FINAL APPROVAL. >> YOU WANT US TO APPROVE IT AND THEN YOU WILL TELL US WHAT WE APPROVE. EVERY TIME WE DO THAT WE GET SCREWED.

WE APPROVE A ROAD THIS ROAD OUT HERE, LIVE OAK. IT DOESN'T MATCHUP.

PATRICIA, WE DIDN'T CATCH IT ON TIME. BY THE TIME WE SAY IT IT WAS LIKE THIS. I'M GOING TO VOTE NO OR AT LEAST I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING ON.

I FEEL LIKE I VOTE TO SPEND MONEY. >> THE PLAYGROUND IS ONE

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COMPONENT OF THE PARK RENOVATION. >> YOU GUYS SAID YOU WILL GET THAT TO US IN MARCH. HERE WE ARE. NOW YOU'RE ADDING IN AUTISTIC THING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LEAK.

WE DON'T HAVE A RENDERING OR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. YOU JUST NEED A VOTE FOR US TO

SPEND QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS AT THIS POINT. >> IT WOULD HAVE GONE TO CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT THIS. WHENEVER THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS CAME IN OR THE BID CAME IN FOR CONSTRUCTION, WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. I FORCED THEM TO COME TO YOU TO GET PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AUTISM CENTER. NOW ARGUABLY, I THINK LAST MEETING THEY HAD PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS A PART OF OPTIONS. JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT THEY LOOK

LIKE CONCEPTUALLY. >> WHAT IS A AUTISM CENTER? >> IT REQUIRES PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ARE ABLE TO BE PLAYED WITH BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SENSORY LEARNING.

YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT IN IN PILE. I DID FIND THE ITEM.

>> LOOK FOR P34. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND IT. >> I SEE FROM MARCH 27TH, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION WHICH SHOWS TWO TO FIVE PLAYGROUNDS, SWING, SHRUBS.

>> WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE SOMETHING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.

WE KNOW IT'S HERE BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS. WHAT'S CHANGING?

>> AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE DID HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT. CAN WE PROVIDE THIS AS THE HANDOUT? IT DOES INCLUDE -- THE EXISTING CURRENT PLAYGROUND IS LIMITED IN WHAT IS PROVIDED FOR THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S A SMALL PAVILION TYPE WITH SMALL PLAY CENTER IN THE LOWER LEVEL AND THEN IN THE UPPER LEVEL, THERE'S A PROPOSED -- THERE'S A CURRENT.

THERE'S SOME ROCK FORMATIONS WITH SLIDES. >> PATRICIA, YOU HAD THAT IN YOUR SLIDE SHOW FOR LAST MEETING IT'S IN THE FOLDER. SHE CAN LOAD IT UP.

OH, YOU CAN'T? >> WE HAVE IT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE IT.

IT ALSO SHOWS SO THE COMPONENTS FOR ADDING ARE INCLUDING THE AUTISTIC INTO THE PLAY COMPONENTS IS LOOKING AT THE SENSORY, THE MOTOR COGNITIVE COMPONENTS ON THE EQUIPMENT SO THAT SOMEONE THAT MAYBE VISUALLY IMPAIRED FOR A CHILD THEY DO HAVE COMPONENTS THAT THEY CAN PLAY. WE HAVE THE CAFETERIA LIST OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE ARE SELECTING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN STANDARD, REGULAR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

WE ADDED COMPONENT SO IT CAN ADD ALL INCLUSIVE COMPONENT FOR THE PLAYGROUND.

WE'RE ADDING A LARGER COMPONENT THAT HAS CANOPIES AND MORE VARIETY OF PLAY FOR ALL STUDENTS ON BOTH LEVELS. THE RETAINING WALL IS TO SEPARATE THE AREAS SO YOU WON'T HAVE A HILL. YOU ACTUALLY WILL GO TO THE LOWER LEVEL YOU CAN SEE THAT'S FOR THAT AGE APPROPRIATE FIVE AND BELOW AND YOU HAVE THE FIVE AND 12 LEVELS THAT CAN PLAY IN IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM. THE PARENTS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

THERE'S TREE AND SHADING. WE HAVE THAT IN THE POWERPOINT. >> I LIKE TO MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM SO WE CAN HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND SEE IT ALL AT ONCE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT AND WASTE TIME. LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TIME LINE 102 DAYS.

AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT START? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED SO WE'RE NOT CLICKING AND

SEARCHING. >> JUST TO NOTE FOR THE SCHEDULE, THOUGH, THE PROJECT IS

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READY TO BID. IT'S READY TO BID. >> THE CHART ON HAS 102 DAYS IN

IT. IT'S REALLY EASY TO SEE. >> TABLING IT TO THE MARCH 5TH, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING BACK ANOTHER AMENDMENT. BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING CONTRACT TIME DAYS TO THE CONTRACT. THE BIDDING PERIOD ALSO WOULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

>> YOU HAVE TO REVISE AMENDMENT THAT YOU BROUGHT. >> YES.

>> IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF PICTURE WE CAN HAVE, MAKE SURE JEFF, HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO

BUILD DOUBLE BATHROOM. >> WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT. >> I GOT A QUESTION.

WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY ASKING FOR TONIGHT, DO YOU WANT AUTISM PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, YES OR NO?

ARE YOU OKAY ADDING 102 DAYS? THAT WAS YOUR RIGHT? >> YES.

>> IF WE VOTE ON THAT AND APPROVE IT TONIGHT, ARE YOU SAYING YOU STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT

EQUIPMENT THEY WOULD BUY? >> WE DO KNOW. >> YOU DO KNOW THE EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S JUST THE PIECE THAT'S MISSING. I WANT TO SEE IT.

THAT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN.

HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD HAVE LIKED BEFORE WE DID AUTISM AND NOW AND BEFORE AND AFTER.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THERE WAS NO BEFORE. YOU NEVER WENT DOWN THAT PATH.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, I REALIZED THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME FRUSTRATION ON THIS.

THIS STEP THAT YOU'RE SEEING DOESN'T NOT NORMALLY HAPPEN. NORMALLY, Y'ALL AUTHORIZE IT TO GO TO DESIGN. THEN WE POST IT TO BID. NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK WITH THE BIDS AND MAETZS I DID KIND OF FORCE THEM TO BRING THIS TO MAKE THEM GET A DECISION FROM Y'ALL ON WHETHER THIS WAS AN OKAY PATH OR NOT. THE FACT THAT WE'RE

DISCOMBOBULATED. IT'S MORE TO DO WITH THAT. >> I SEE YOU TALKING ABOUT A ROADWAY. WE MAKE DEVELOPERS COME UP HERE TO SHOW US WHAT ELEVATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE. A HABIT, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT.

IT'S LIKE WE PICKED A PICKLEBALL COURT. WE DESIGN IT AND WE COME BACK THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. AT THAT TIME, I WAS LEAK WE GOT TO HAVE THIS STUFF FLUSHED OUT.

I'M LOOKING TO GAIN CHARTER CHART FROM JULY. TRIP PREPARE YOU BUILD AN ITEM IT TAKES SIX MONTHS. YOU GOT TO WORK MIDNIGHT AND YOU GET IT DONE.

ON THIS ONE, THE BID PHASE SUPPOSED SO START SEPTEMBER 30TH.

THE BID WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH, YOU ADD 102 DAYS TO THE ORIGINAL, ISN'T THE BID 2/24/26.

THAT BIWAS SUPPOSED OSTART SEPTEMBER 30TH AND FINISH DECEMBER 1ST.

IF YOU ADD 102 DAYS, SHOULD HAVE BEEN BIDDING IT AT THE END OF DECEMBER AND EARLY JANUARY.

WHICH PUTS US TWO MONTHS BEHIND. IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THESE GANT CHARTS WE'RE NOT MAKING NUMBER UP AND CHANGING THEM SAYING WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ONE.

SOMETHING GOOFED UP. GOT TO GET THE JOB DONE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION

TABLING THIS FIRST MEETING IN MARCH? >> ONE QUESTION.

IF WE WERE TO COUNCILMEMBER GORDON SAID, WE TOOK THAT THE EXTRA DAYS, WOULD THERE BE MORE

MONEY NEEDED? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. EVENT HAVEN'T BIDDED.

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WE HAVE TO BID -- THIS PROJECT DOES HAVE BASE BID COMPONENT. IT ALSO HAVE ALTERNATE BID ITEMS TO SELECT FROM IT IF WE ARE IN BUDGET. IF THE CONTRACTOR'S BID COMES IN

ABOVE THE BUDGET WE'LL MAKE THE CONSIDER IF THE AWARD. >> THERE WHAT NO BID YET.

THE FISCAL NOTES SEES THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT. IF THE PERFORM, NOW WE ARE ADD

AUTISM COMPONENT. >> IT'S ALREADY SET. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE GOT TO CUT SOMETHING OUT? >> EGUESS I'M NOT EXPLAINING IT RIGHT.

YOU HAVE BUDGET $500,000. , YOU BUY O -- WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SWITCH THE SCOPE. I WANT TO KNOW AM I GETTING DAY HUNDRED OR 400.

WE'RE GOING TO SHARE IT BETWEEN 500 PEOPLE. THAT'S THAT'S MY --

>> WHAT I'M HEARING, THE PICTURE I SAW FROM MARCH, EVERYTHING STILL WILL BE THERE.

NOW IT'S GOING TO BE AUTISM CERTIFIED. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

BUT STILL GOING TO BE THERE. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. >> THEY HAVEN'T BID IT OUT YET.

>> YOU'RE STILL GETTING SAME THING. HAVING THREE TIER PLAYGROUND FOR

5-112. >> I UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE ASKING US TO PRESERVE THIS.

WE DON'T SEE WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. ACCORDING TO THE GANT CHART, I'M

PSALMING THE SCAN. -- >> THE DESIGN PHASE IS DONE.

I STOPPED THEM FOR PUTTING THIS OUT FOR BID LAST WEEK. >> WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO

LOOK LIKE. >> WE JUST DON'T KNOW. GOT IT.

>> CALL THE VOTE.

[10.1. Discussion and possible action regarding a Request for Proposal from rideshare companies for on-demand PPP (Public Private Partnership) service to Hutto including but not limited to TRIPPP, Ztrip, Via and any other micro transit providers. (Mayor Snyder)]

[02:05:07]

ITEM 10.1.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGET MONEY. POTENTIALLY STARTED AND IT'S BUDGET BUCKETED.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO GET FORECAST BE. WE AUNT TO TURN TO PEOPLE WITH LIMITED ACCESSIBILITY TO GET AROUND SENIORS AND ADA AND THAT SORT OF THINGS.

I LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PEP WE DON'T KNOW WITH --

>> THESE ARE THE THREE THAT EVERYBODY IS USING. IT WIT WERE --

>> WE HAD WORKSHOP ON THIS LIKE YEAR AND A HALF AGO. I KNOW THAT THE -- I WOULD LIKEO

SEE WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE? >> THIS IS IF THE IF THE -- I MA MOTION TO ISSUE AN RFP.

>> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY MAYOR SNYDER SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM

THORNTON. >> >> I THITESLA AUSTIN ANNOUNCED R FIRST CARS RALEIGH 3 30 -- ROLLG 30K A PIECE. YEAH, SABER TAXI.

>>

[10.2. Consideration and possible action regarding Police overtime including but not limited to special events, unplanned events, and other times where overtime is required. (Councilmember Porterfield)]

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.2.

USE US ABOUT ESTIMATED HOUR. BY MISSIONEST QUESTION, I WILL E-MAIL JAMES ABOUT THIS.

HOW DO YOU BUDGET THAT? WHAT DOES OUR POLICE OVERTIME LOOK LIKE?

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>> BEST WAY TO RESPOND IS DESCRIBE WHAT BUDGET REALLY IS. IT'S A MANAGEMENT GUIDANCE DOCUMENT. I KNOW WE PUT EMPHASIS ON IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS DESIGNED WITH FLEXIBILITY IN MIND FOR THOSE EXACT TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

SAY YOU HAVE A BIG EVENT THAT POPS YOUR OVERTIME. I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT PD.

THEY HAVE A PRETTY HEALTHY OVERTIME BUDGET. LET'S SAY THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF OVERTIME BUDGET. FIRST THING WE DO TO COST PROTECT.

ONCE THE EVENT IS OVER IT, IT'S LIKE WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE UP TO COVER THAT OVERAGE.

THAT'S TYPICAL BUDGET MANAGEMENT. I KNOW IT'S TYPICAL HANDLED WITH BUDGET TRANSFERS. THAT'S HOW IT GETS HANDLED. VERY SELDOMLY WE GET OURSELVES IN FINANCIAL BIND WHERE WE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE MECHANISMS THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR US TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN BEFORE GOING TO PD.

THERE'S A LOT OF TURNOVER IN PD. THERE WAS A LOT OF OVERTIME AND IT WAS WAY OVER BEYOND WHAT THE BUDGET OF WE HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WHERE TO CUT EXPENDITURES. THERE'S COST CONTAINMENT IN THE EVENT ITSELF. AFTERWARDS WHERE WE SEE IF WE'RE TRENDING, WE EATEN UP BUDGET WHERE WE USE THREE FOURTH OF OUR BUDGET. WE START TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

MAKE UP THAT OVERAGE. >> FOR POLICE OVERTIME YOU SAID THERE WAS A HEALTHY OVERTIME BUDGET. MY THOUGHT IS IF WE HAVE CERTAIN POLICE OFFICERS WORKING MORE OVERTIME THAN LOOKING AT MORE FTES WHICH MAYOR WILL WRING ON THAT ONE.

WE DON'T WANT THESE GUYS TO GET EXHAUSTED. HOW MUCH OVERTIME ARE WE SPENDING? MAYBE I NEED TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHO'S GETTING IT AND WHY WE'RE GETTING IT. THEY MAY GET A SIGNED COURT.

THAT MAYBE ON THEIR OFF DAY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT LIKE A STANDARD PART BEING A POLICE OFFICER TO GET BUILT INTO OVERTIME. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE RUNNING THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT RUN OVERTIME BECAUSE OF MEN STAFFING? I DON'T THINK THAT'S A WHOLE LOT. THE CHIEF IS HERE.

HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE GENERATE A LOT OF OVERTIME MEN STAFF -- MINIMUM STAFF. IT'S FOR SOMEONE OUT ON VACATION OR TRAINING OR SOMEONE IS AT COURT. THOSE ARE KIND OF THE MORE STANDARD TEACH STUFF.

THERE'S LIKE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN THAT ARE AUTOMATIC.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING STRESSED OR STRAINED BECAUSE THERE'S

OVERTIME BEING GENERATED. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY MANAGER YOU'RE ON TOP OF ALL

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THAT. THE HEADLINES COME OUT OF AUSTIN ARE POTENTIALLY SOME PEOPLE WORKING SO MUCH OVERTIME THEY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S MORE OVERTIME BEING DONE IN A WORKWEEK NEARLY IN A WEEK. YOU HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE SALARIED 130, MAKING 300.

THEY HAVE LIEUTENANTS OUT WORKING OVERTIME. IT GOT ME THINKING.

WHEN I SAW THIS ITEM WHAT IS OUR OVERTIME BREAKDOWN? IS IT THE PATROL OFFICER, LT OR THE ASSISTANT CHIEF. I DON'T KNOW. SOMEHOW THEY GOT THEMSELVES IN A PICKLE IN AUSTIN IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC ALL OVER THEM AND IT LOOKS LEAK BIG FORCE.

SOME PEOPLE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT MADE ME THINK, ME MICROMANAGE THE BUDGETS EVERY DEPARTMENT BUT THE POLICE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE POLICE DOING ANYTHING WRONG. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE USING IF IT'S OVERTIME AND IT'S FOR AN EVENT, THAT WE'RE NOT USING THE TOP PAY PERSON. WE'RE USING LOWER PAY PERSON BECAUSE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS YOU'RE RUNNING, YOU WOULDN'T USE YOUR STORE MANAGER TO GO WORK ALL THE EXTRA HOURS WE HAVE ALL THE LEVELS BELOW THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF ALL THAT. ALSO GET -- I AGREE WITH YOUR DEFINITION HOW MUNICIPAL BUDGETING WORKS. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE UP HERE WOULD DISAGREE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY. I NEVER ENCOUNTERED AND WORKED FOR A COMPANY THAT HAD LAYOFFS.

SOME PEOPLE JUST DO THAT. IN MY WORLD, YOU HIT A BUDGET AND IF YOU MISS THAT BUDGET PLUS ORMINUS, YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT. THERE'S ALWAYS -- IT'S NOT ALWAYS YOU THROW A NUMBER DOWN.

WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHERE EACH NICKEL IS GOING. THAT GOES FOR EVERYTHING WE DO.

YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING. I THINK SOMETIMES MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT IT'S -- WE JUST MOVE 100 GRAND FROM HERE AND THERE WE'RE DONE. I UNDERSTAND THE FLUID BUDGETS ARE MEANT TO BE AMENDED. I THINK WHAT WE DON'T GOOD JOB OF, WE DO A GREAT JOB NOW OF THE BUDGET. WE'RE CHECKING EVERY LINE ITEM. I DON'T THINK WE DO A REAL GOOD JOB QUESTIONING WHY WE MOVE STUFF AROUND WE JUST MOVING STUFF AROUND.

THAT LAST BUDGET AMENDMENT PROBABLY HAD 60 ITEM. 5000 HERE, 10,000 HERE AND 80.

I TALKED TO AC JONES ABOUT THIS. PROBABLY AS A COUNCIL SET DOWN AND BUDGET SEASON AND TALK TO THE POLICE. TALK TO THE CHIEF AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONE ON SO IF WE ARE ASKED WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, WE ASK THE QUESTIONS, THAT SHOW US THE INFORMATION.

WE GOT A GOOD GRASP. THAT WAY, WE NEVER HAVE TO GET CAUGHT.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF YOUR ITEM. >> I DID ASK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS EVENT. I DON'T KNOW I GOT THE ANSWER. I DID GET AN ANSWER.

I'LL REVIEW THE BUDGET AND SEE AND LOOK AT THAT. IF I HAVE A QUESTION, I'LL ASK YOU JAMES AND CHIEF IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC. JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS. I DON'T HAVE ANY ACTIONABLE ITEMS.

[10.3. Consideration and possible action on disapproving of the City Manager accepting outside employment and/or contractual performance until subsequently approved by vote of City Council (taken from Section 12 of the 2nd Amended CM contract dated Aug 2023). (Councilmember Porterfield)]

>> ANYBODY ELSE? 10.3.

>> I BROUGHT THIS UP JUST GOING THROUGH STUFF. QUITE HONESTLY, THIS IS PROBABLY CAUGHT JAMES AND MY SURPRISE. I'M ONLY COUNCILMEMBER THAT DOESN'T MEET WITH HIM ON A WEEKLY BASIS. I FEEL LIKE CAN E-MAIL HIM AND TALK ABOUT IT HERE.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS VERY EVEN WITH DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT, VERY MOTIVATED TO BE FOCUSED AND

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TO GET PROJECTS DONE. MAYOR ASK CAN WE GET A ROAD DONE? I'M NOT INSANE -- INSINUATING ANYTHING NEGATIVE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF IS FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND. I'LL TELL YOU QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SERVE ON COUNCIL AND WORK 80 PLUS HOURS A WEEK AT MY DAYTIME JOB.

IF SOMEONE HERE HAVING TO WORK 60 TO 80 HOURS A WEEK AND HAVE SOMETHING ELSE ON THE SIDE, IT CAN TAKE AWAY. MY DAY JOB TAKES AWAY FROM THIS AND IT TAKES AWAY FROM MY DAY JOB. IT'S NOT EASY TO DO. I'M NOT ENSIGN -- IN INSINUATING THAT WE LOST PRODUCTIVITY. JUST LOOKING AT YOUR CONTRACT. THAT WAS IN THERE.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE SOME THINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL DOING THOSE THING OR NOT. I KNOW IT WAS AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR FLEX TIME AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. WITH THAT, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE CITY MANAGER ACCEPTING OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT OR CONTRACTUAL PERFORMANCE UNTIL APPROVED BY A

VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

YOU PROBABLY NOT SURPRISED I WOULD SECOND IT. IT'S MORE -- LAST YEAR WE THIS 13,000 GROWING CITY. WE TALKED BEFORE, COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WHEN I DO GO, I'M DOING CONFERENCE CALLS AND I'M UP THERE AN AND IN ARLINGTON AND IM ON LAPTOP AND STUFF. I APPRECIATE THAT.

FOR ME, WITH US MISSING DEADLINES WHEN THINGS NOT MOVING, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INSTEAD OF YOU'RE ON A CONFERENCE CALL ASKING ARE YOU GUYS DOING YOUR JOB? YOU'RE NOT OFFICE AND CAR AND RIDING WITH RICK GOING WHY ISN'T HUTTO SOLVES BLOWN UP RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE THERE. CONFERENCE CALLS, I'M EXTREMELY OLD SCHOOL.

I STILL READ THE NEWSPAPER. EVERYBODY I WORK BELOW ME IS TEXT AND E-MAIL.

I GOT TO SEE YOU IN-PERSON. TO ME, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON HERE THAT NEED LIKE 100% LIKE ZEROED IN. WE GOT TO GET STUFF DONE THIS YEAR.

PEOPLE ARE MAD. ONLY THING THEY WANT IS CURB, AND ASSAULT BEING LAID.

YOU MADE A COMMENT, -- FOR ME IT'S MORE LIKE I DON'T MIND IF YOU FINISH UP YOUR -- ARE YOU

DOING SOMETHING NOW? >> MY ENGAGEMENT HASN'T CHANGED. >> WHEN THAT BE?

>> IT'S JUST LIKE A PERMANENT TYPE THING. ONLY TIME THEY GENERALLY CHANGE IT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGES WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES.

>> IS THERE A SEMESTER ON THESE THINGS? >> IT'S COHORTS.

THEY START EVERY JANUARY AND THEY RUN JUST CONSTANTLY. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU ACTUALLY SPEND DOING THIS? IS IT EVERY WEEK?

IS IT EVERY MONTH? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? >> FOR THE NEWER COUNCILMEMBERS, PARTICULARLY, Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST. I DO THINK IT WAS IN '23.

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IT'S BEEN A WHILE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF NEW COUNCILMEMBERS.

I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT KIND OF REQUIRES BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION STRAIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ANSWER. THE JOB THAT I DO IS NOT A PART-TIME JOB. I WANT TO -- IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SAID CAN YOU HELP OUT WITH THIS PROJECT. IT'S NOT A PART TIME JOB I DON'T WORK 20 HOURS WEEK AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AT SOME PLAY PLACE. IT'S LIKE CONSULTING CONTRACTOR.

IT'S HOWEVER MANY HOURS TAKES YOU TO GET IT DONE. BUT THE REALITY IS, I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR IS REFERRING TO IS I SPEND ONE DAY, ONE WORK DAY A MONTH FIVE TIMES A YEAR.

BASICALLY EVERY OTHER MONTH EXCEPT FOR ONE WE DON'T TRAVEL. FIVE DAYS OUT OF THE ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR I TRAVEL UP TO THE CITY OF ARLINGTON WHERE I FACILITATE FOR A CERTIFIED PUBLIC MANAGER PROGRAM. IT'S CONTINUING EDUCATION, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THAT PROGRAM TARGETS CITY EMPLOYEES, SOME STATE EMPLOYEES ARGUABLY. THEY ARE WORKING FOR CITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS HEAVILY SITUATED IN THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA. GENERALLY, WE'LL PULL FROM SOUTH AND NORTH. IT'S BASICALLY CITY EMPLOYEES, CITY ADMINISTRATORS FINANCE DIRECTORS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE TIME THAT I'M PHYSICALLY OUT OF HUTTO. ONE DAY A MONTH, FIVE DAYS OUT

OF THE YEAR. THAT'S IT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE DAYS THAT --

>> I SAID OUT OF HUTTO. I'M TRYING DIFFERENTIATE. I HEARD THIS ARTICULATED DIFFERENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE. I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR TO WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

THEN WE HAVE VIRTUAL CLASS THAT ARE THREE HOUR CLASSES AND THOSE HAPPEN TWO TIMES A MONTH EVERY OTHER MONTH. ONE DAY, AFTER THE DAY WE TRAVEL SO IT'S TRAVEL AND THREE HOURS AND FOLLOWING MONTHS IT'S TWO OR THREE HOURS VISUAL MEANS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAXIMUM OF 11 HOURS IN THE MONTH THAT I TRAVEL. THAT'S ALL THE TIME I'M PUTTING IN THE WORK. WE DON'T DO THE SIX -- THERE'S ONE OF THOSE MONTHS WE DON'T TRAVEL FOR THAT EXTRA IN-PERSON WE DO SPIRITUAL. -- I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING

ELSE. THAT'S IT. >> YOU SAID IT WAS CONSULTING

WORK THAT KIND OF WHATEVER A TAKES TO GET IT DONE. >> THIS IS THAT.

I'M NOT A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. I'M A CONTRACTOR. >> DID I SAY THAT?

>> NO. I WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD.

NOT A PART TIME EMPLOYEE. THAT'S THE TIME THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN '23 THAT I WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO USE FLEX TIME OR WHATEVER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE.

FOR THAT. I HAVE TO DO SOME GRADING. THAT'S NOT NEARLY WHAT IT WAS IN '23. THEY ADDED A CODE DIRECTOR. THE CODE DIRECTOR IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE UNITED STATES. UNIVERSITY -- UNIVERSITY. I FACILITATE.

THAT'S THE EFFORT I PUT IN THIS. HOW MANY HOUR I PUT IN OUTSIDE OF THOSE CLASS TIME HOURS, PROBABLY ANOTHER FOUR OR FIVE HHOURS A MONTH. OTHER THING THAT I WOULD NOTE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROGRAM. I WENT THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION

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MYSELF IN 2005. STARTING IN 2009 I STARTED TO GET ASKED TO TEACH REGULARLY.

BY REGULAR I MEAN ONCE A YEAR I TEACH A CLASS. 2017 THEY ASK ME IF I WOULD TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE AND BE A DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH REGION.

THE PERSON WHO WAS THE DIRECTOR WAS STARTING TO GET READY TO RETIRE.

I DISCLOSE THAT I WOULD EFFECTIVELY CHOOSE TO DO THE CPM REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH TIME I WAS PUTTING IN HERE AT THE OFFICE. THOSE ARE THE WORDS THAT I USED BACK THEN. THAT'S WHY IT GOT INCLUDED IN MY CONTRACT.

WAS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SO I CAN CONTINUE. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP A AS A SURPRISE.

FOR ME, LIKE I HAVE A FUNCTIONALLY BEEN WORKING AND GIVING MY ALL TO THIS COMMUNITY THIS WHOLE TIME. THIS IS THE THING I DO MORE MYSELF.

THIS IS THE THING THAT I DO FOR THE PROFESSION. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN PEOPLE CHOOSING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME OR TO WORK SIDEWAYS WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

ON THE SAID WITH OTHER PEOPLE. I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. I ENUMERATED IT IN MY CONTRACT.

I HAVE APPROVE. I HAVE DISCLOSED IT. WE'VE MODIFIED MY CONTRACT.

OF SO I CAN DO IT PRO APPROPRIA. THE CONTRACTING LANGUAGE IN SECTION 12 OF MY CONTRACT, A LOT OF CITY MANAGERS TO SIDE CONTRACTING WORK WHERE THEY GO WORK FOR ANOTHER CITY AND HELP THEM WITH PROJECTS. THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR THAT. ONLY IF I DISCLOSE TO YOU ALL FIRST, TEN DAYS BEFORE YOU YOUR MEETING. GUYS ELECT TO ALLOW ME TO DO THAT. I HAVEN'T ASKED TO DO THAT. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ON THIS DEAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE LIKE MAYOR SAID, YOU'RE NOT PHYSICALLY HERE. I BUT I AM PHYSICALLY HERE SO MUCH MORE THAN 8:00 TO 5:00. I'M WORKING 60, 70, 80 REGULARLY FOR YOU AND FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE GETTING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR AND MORE. I GUARANTEE THAT YOU ARE.

THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT NOT GETTING DONE IS FRUSTRATING.

IT'S FRUSTRATING ME, IT'S FRUSTRATING THE COMMUNITY. I DO GET THAT.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I DON'T CARE, I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.

THE REALITY IS IS THAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH. THIS IS THE MOST RECENT PROBLEM. IT IS BEST AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LEAK I DISCLOSED. IT HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE OTHER INSIGHT.

I KNOW THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING IS APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT TO COUNCIL.

I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A FRUSTRATION THAT WHEN THINGS ARE SLIPPING IS ARE YOU OUT THERE DURING YOUR TIME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR WHATEVER, DO YOU TRAVEL? DO YOU PUT YOUR EYES ON IT? DO YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? IS WHAT YOU JUST DETAILED TO US

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HINDERING YOU FROM DOING THAT? I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION HERE ABOUT -- YOU SAID HOW MANY DAYS

YOU SPEND PER YEAR COMES TO FIVE -- >> THAT I TRAVEL

>> THAT YOU TRAVEL AND SIX THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING ONLINE. HOW MANY HOURS A YEAR ARE YOU ACTUALLY SPENDING DOING THAT OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL? IF YOU EVEN KNOW THAT?

>> HOW MANY HOURS TOTAL IN THE CLASS? IT WOULD BE THREE TIMES SIX,

THAT'S 18 AND THEN 6 TIMES 6, THAT'S 36. >> 40 HOURS A YEAR.

>> 94 HOURS A YEAR. >> OKAY. >> TCMA IS MY PROFESSIONAL

ORGANIZATION. >> YOU CAN TAKE THE DAY OFF AND COUNTY NEEDS TO BE OFF THIS WEEK. WE'LL GET AN E-MAIL ON A MONDAY NIGHT.

SOMETIMES EVEN TUESDAY NIGHT. I'M GONE REST OF THE WEEK. CITY MANAGER OUT OF OFFICE.

I GOT WHATEVER THIS CONFERENCE IS. I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME AT 9:00 AT NIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

THEN DECEMBER, IT'S I NEED TO RECHARGE AND GET LVIVUATED. UATE -- REJUVENATED AND THEY TAKE OFF FOUR WEEKS IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT TAKES A MONTH OFF EVERY YEAR. >> EVENT TRAVELED FOR CONFERENCE

IN TWO YEARS. >> IT'S THREE WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS.

YOU TAKE OFF THREE WEEKS AT A TIME THE CITY -- YOUR JOB IS 40 HOURS A WEEK.

I'M NOT GOING TO RELITIGATE THE AMOUNTS WHERE YOU GET COMP TIME. IT COME DOWN TO WE'RE NOT GETTING STUFF DONE. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IN CITY MANAGER.

I DONE THAT BEFORE. IT DOESN'T HELP YOU. IT DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER.

I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB WHEN YOU GETTING WORN DOWN AND YOU GOT TO TAKE THREE WEEKS OFF.

YOU HAVE THE CLASSES. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR AGENDA ITEM IN A BIT TO HAVE A STREET SWEEPER TO COME THROUGH DOWNTOWN. I CAN'T MAKE THEM COME DOWN THERE. ONLY YOU CAN DO THAT. ONLY WAY TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN, IS TO FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT. MY MIND IS TELLING ME, JAMES HAS A LOT GOING ON WITH THE CITY, 13 FASTEST GROWING BUT ALSO WITH OTHER THINGS. ALL THEE PEOPLE YOU'D BE LYING IF YOU TOLD ME ONE PEOPLE CALLING ON MONDAY. HEY, LET ME RUN THIS BY YOU.

AT SOME POINT, THAT COULD CONSUME A PERSON TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S HOURS AND HOURS SPENT DONE THIS. IT'S HOW PEOPLE BURN UP SO MUCH TIME.

WE'RE NOT TRACKING HOURS FULL-TIME PEOPLE. PEOPLE START DEMANDING WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING STUFF DONE. I DON'T HAVE THEY WAY TELLING ANYBODY THAT.

I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN HIRE MORE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW.

AT SOME POINT, SOMEWHERE WE GOT TO MAKE A CHANGE. WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING FROM YOU AND TO THE PEOPLE SITTING BACK THERE TO THE PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE.

THIS CITY GOT TO START GETTING SOMETHING DONE. YOU SAY IT'S FRUSTRATING WE'RE NOT GETTING PROJECTS DONE. I DON'T THINK WE CAN LIST A PROJECT THAT HAPPENED ON TIME.

YOU BEEN HERE THREE AND A HALF YEARS. WE HAVE TO TOP TALKING WHAT HAPPENED THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO. YOU HAD THREE AND A HALF YEARS TO FIX IT. NOW THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TODAY WITH ENGINEERING, TO ME THAT IS ON YOU. YOU KNEW THIS WHEN YOU CAME IN. NOW WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF

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THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WE GOT TO GET FOCUSED AND GET EVERYBODY LASERRED IN ON GETTING

SOMETHING DONE IN THE CITY. >> I'M NOT INSINUATING YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

I THINK YOU DO A FINE JOB. I DON'T WANT YOU TO LEAVE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. IT SEEMS EXHAUSTING. MY THING IS IT'S DOUBLING DOWN.

WE'RE FRUSTRATED. OBVIOUSLIER YOU STATED THAT YOU'RE FRUSTRATED.

FOR ME IT'S JUST -- IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A PERMANENT THING.

FOR ME NOW IT'S A HYPER FOCUS. MAKING SURE -- I DUET GET THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ENJOY. YOU ENJOY YOUR PROFESSION AND YOU LOVER WHAT YOU DO.

YO-- YOU LOVEWHAT YOU DO. I WANT TO FOCUS. I REALLY WANT TO HAVE THAT

EXPECTATION SET FOR MY STAND POINT. >> I GOT SOME THINGS I LIKE TO SHARE. I WAS HERE. I WAS ONE OF CITY COUNCILMEMBERS THAT HIRED JAMES. I REMEMBER HIM TELLING US HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS TO HIM.

IN FACT, IT WAS -- YOU MAY WANT TO NOT CONSIDER HIRING ME IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET ME DO THIS. THAT WAS THE TAKEAWAY. THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO ME. I SEE HIS WORK DOING THAT AS A WAY FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE PROFESSION BUT ALSO STAY CONNECTED TO THE PROFESSION TO WHERE WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM HIS NETWORKING AND CONNECTIONS UP TO THERE. THERE'S OTHER CONTEXT THAT HE HAS THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO WHERE HE'S KNOWN VERY WELL. THERE WAS A FEW YEARS AGO I WENT TO TML TRAINING AND THE CONFERENCE. I WAS JUST AMAZED.

YOU'RE PUT TOE. HOW MANY PEOPLE KIND OF KNOW YOUR CITY MANAGER.

WE AS A CITY BENEFIT FROM THAT. I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY BENEFIT FROM AN EMPLOYER WHO'S WILLING TO ALLOW ME TO TRULY HAVE A SIDE JOB TO BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. I DO A LOT MORE WORK DURING THE WEEK, DOING CITY COUNCIL STUFF THAT JAMES CAN EVEN TOUCH TO WHAT HE IS DOING ON HIS.

I PUT IN A TON OF WORK ON CITY COUNCIL STUFF MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

I THINK MOST OF US UP HERE PROBABLY DO. I THINK EVERY ONE OF US HAS A FULL-TIME JOB EXCEPT FOR COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. AL OF OUR EMPLOYERS RECOGNIZE THE BENT THAT COMES FROM ALLOWING US TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

I RECOGNIZE T OF HIM ALLOWING HM TO SERVE HIS COMMUNITY. THE BENEFIT OF THAT FAR OUTWEIGHS THE FIVE DAYS A YEAR THAT HE'S PHYSICALLY NOT IN THE TOWN BUT HE'S STILL ON HIS LAPTOP STILL WORKING AND STILL CONNECTED. I THINK MAYBE SOMETIMES WE AS A COUNCIL STRUGGLE TO QUANTIFY THOSE INTANGIBLES THE EXCITES THEY WE THE NET.

FOR ME IT V -- I THINK THERE'S SUCH A BENEFIT. MY QUESTION, THIS MOTION AS IT'S WORDED. WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED YOU IF YOUR CONTRACT, IT SAYS -- I WENT THROUGH AND REREAD IT THE WAY IT'S WORDED. IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU ASK PERMISSION FROM CITY COUNCIL UNLESS WE DENY IT. WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN

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2023 WHEN UP FIRST HIRED. YOU ASKED, CAN I CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

WE ALL SAID YES. ABSOLUTELY. NOBODY PUT IT TO A VOTE.

>> WE PUT IT TO VOTE. THAT WAS AMENDING HIS CONTRACT. IT WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I THINK JAMES -- I'VE BEEN A JERK THE WHOLE TIME. >> I THINK WE'RE GETTING LOST ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. MY ESTIMATION, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE TRYING TO FIX AS A COUNCIL, IS HAVING THE OPPOSITE EFFECT OF WHAT WE SAY WE TRYING TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON. I WANTED TO SAY THAT.

IT WORRIES ME THAT -- BASICALLY GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION IS, THE WAY THIS WORDED.

>> YOU CAN AT SOME POINT DISAPPROVE IT. >> ARGUMENT BEING MADE IS WE APPROVED IT. WE TOOK AND AMENDMENT AND OUT IT THIS THERE.

THE AMENDMENT SAYS THAT WE MUST DISAPPROVE. >> I WANT TO SAY, I GOT A COPY OF THE CONTRACT I'M LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL. I THINK THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS CHANGED. ORIGINAL ONE SAID THE -- THE SAME SENTENCE IN THE EMIT AMEND -- 12 HOURS WAS TAKEN OUT. IT WAS JUST TALKED ABOUT COMP TIME.

>> IT WAS -- THERE WAS A QUESTION.-- I SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, CHANGING

FROM NO MORE THAN 12 BUT THEN USE OTHER FLEXIBLE -- >> THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS THAT HE WOULD USE LEAVE WHICH APPLIES FOR VACATION TIME THAT KIND OF TIME.

NOT COMP TIME OR FLEX TIME. IT OF TO CLARIFY WHAT KIND OF LEAVE HE COULD USE FOR THE

OUTSIDE. >> MY COMMENT ON THIS MOTION IS THAT WITHOUT -- REALLY START READING THIS CONTRACT RECENTLY. TO ME WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING CITY MANAGER'S PROFESSIONAL, ACADEMIC AND PERSONAL COMMITMENTS, AT THIS TIME, I'M RELUCTANT TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE COMMENTS ARE. HE'S SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MONTH. DOES THAT GIVE HIM ENOUGH TIME TO GET REPLACEMENTS OR WHOEVER YOU'RE WORKING WITH. BEYOND -- PERSONAL FEELING IS PEOPLE AT WORK SHOULD BE AT WORK. ANYTHING I DO OUTSIDE SHOULD BE ON MY OWN TIME.

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IT'S MY TIME. THAT'S JUST MY -- CONTRACT EXIST.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. >> IS THAT SEPTEMBER 30TH?

>> OUR FISCAL YEAR IS THE END OF SEPTEMBER 30TH. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. >> SERIOUSLY, I HAD TO BUY THIS LAST NIGHT.

INNOCENT. >> JIM, I WOULD SAY WHATEVER TIMELINE IS FOR BY END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR. EFFECTIVE --

>> THERE WOULDN'T PRECLUDE H&M AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, RENEWING HIS REQUEST THE.

HE COULD TURN THE CITY AROUND AND HAVE EVERY PROJECT DONE ON TIME.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SAY, I WANT JAMES TO TAKE CARE OF IT. I DON'T WANT JAMES TO BE BURNT OUT. I KNOW ANOTHER CITY MANAGER. THAT COUNCIL FORCES THAT GUY TO TAKE TIME OFF. HE REFUSE TO TAKE TIME OFF. I WANT TO FIND A WAY TO WHERE WE'RE NOT BURNED OUT. WE'RE NOT TAKING THREE WEEK OFF AT A TIME.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF PERCEPTION OURS.

IF GONE ONE DAY NOT WORKING. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER GORDON.

A LOT OF US ARE ALLOWED TO THINGS IN OUR JOB. WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS.

WE STARTED STRUGGLING AT WORK, WE STARTED MISTAKING OUR -- STARTING MISSING OUR TIMELINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE TIMELINES WILL BE THE SAME WAY. AT SOME POINT -- WE GOT TO FOCUS. LOTS CHANGED IN THREE YEARS. WE WERE NOT GONE LIKE WE ARE NOW. YOU PROBABLY KNOW I HAVE NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM ANYTHING TO ANYBODY. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO WORK 80 HOURS A WEEK BUT NOT COVERAGE TIME EITHER. I LIKE TO SEE A GUY COB HERE THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

I DO THINK WE HAVE A PERCEPTION ISSUE WITH THE PUBLIC. >> I THINK THE PERCEPTION WE'RE NOT BEING ACCURATE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY MANAGER CLARIFYING TO US AND THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS REALLY IS ABOUT. I SEEN THAT.

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A PUBLIC ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE ASSUMING A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE.

IF WE THINK THAT NOT ALLOWING HIM TO DO THIS IS PHONE TO MAKE ALL OUR PROJECTS ON TIME.

WE'RE ALL FOOLING OURSELVES. I THINK THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MASSIVE TURNOVER, MAINLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ENGINEER. THAT'S NOT JAMES' FAULT.

>> WHO'S FAULT IS THAT? >> I HAVE AN IDEA WHO'S FAULT IT IS.

>> YOU'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION. >> YES, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION.

>> WHEN YOU START MAKING ASSUMPTIONS? >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYONE'S NAME.

WHEN YOU HAVE MASSIVE TURNOVER THAT'S RESPONSIBLE TO GET ALL THE PROJECTS DONE, THAT'S NOT THE CITY MANAGER'S FAULT. WE NEED TO HIRE A NEW CITY ENGINEER.

WE JUST BARELY GOT A NEW CITY DEVELOPMENT PERSON ON BOARD. OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL PUT HIS NOTICE IN. HE'S ONLY BEEN HERE A FEW MONTHS.

THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. IF THEY WE THIS DISTRACTION OF TELLING THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE CAN'T GO TO ARLINGTON FIVE TIMES A YEAR AND STILL DO HIS WORK AND GET THE WORK DONE.

IF WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO FIX WHAT WE SAY THE PROBLEM IS, WE'RE FOOLING OURSELVES.

THAT'S MY OPINION. >> I THINK THIS PROFESSIONAL BODY LOWERS ITSELF INTELLECTUALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY TO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT SAID. SECOND THING IS PERCEPTIONS IS NOT WHAT I READ SOMETHING ONLINE. I HAVE PEOPLE TALKING TO ME.

I HAVE PEEP CALLING ME. I HAVE TEXT MESSAGES AND E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS.

PEOPLE I KNOW AND DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY NOT GETTING PROJECTS DONE. IT'S NOT IN THE LAST 6 TO 9 MONTHS OR 18 MONTHS WITH THE TURNOVER IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. YEARS AND YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S S SYSTEMATC PROBLEM. I THINK WE HAVE GREAT TEAM. WE'RE ARCHING 20 PROJECTS PER PROJECT MANAGER. JUST MANAGING OUR RESOURCES. WE'RE ON ALL HANDS ON DECK TIME.

WE NEED TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE AND JOINING. THAT MEANS I HAVE TO WORK ANOTHER EXTRA 10 OR 15 HOURS, I'M DRIVING SITES NOW. ESPECIALLY LIMMER LOOP LINE.

IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ONE INDIVIDUAL ITEM IS GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING. I AGREE WITH YOU. 100%.

I THINK THE ACCUMULATION OF ALL THESE THINGS AND ALL US WORKING TOGETHER SHOULD HAVE AN EFFECT.

WHAT ARE THOSE EXACT INDIVIDUAL ITEMS? I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

WE RELY ON STAFF AND WE RELY ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND WE RELY ON EACH OTHER AND MARKING THE PROJECTS -- I GET CONFER WITH CITY MANAGER WHERE IT'S TRUE OR NOT I STILL WANT TO SHARE TO UNDERSTAND. I'M KNOW GOING TO FACEBOOK. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. IF PEOPLE ARE WORKING, THEY'RE WORKING AT THIS LIFE.

I WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE NOT THERE. SIX DAYS LAYER THEY ARE WORKING AT THE LIGHT AGAIN.

I DONE THAT. I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

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>> EVERYBODY ELSE SPOKEN ABOUT THREE TIMES. I GOT ONE SHOT.

I WAS HERE. I WAS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE THREE WHO WERE HERE WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED. WE KNEW WE WERE GETTING. WE KNEW WHAT UP DOING.

THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT EVERYBODY WAS EITHER OKAY WITH IT OR THOUGHT IT WAS A NET BENEFIT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS NET BENEFIT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU CONTINUING TO DO THIS.

I THINK IT'S A MISTAKE FOR US TO TRICEP -- I DON'T KNOW YOU SAVING TEN HOURS A MONTH IS GOING TO CHANGE THE AM OF TIME YOU PUT IN HERE. EVERYBODY HAS TO PUT TIME IN ON OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR JOB. WE ALL DO.

>> AS THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, JUST LEARNED ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF.

I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIOUS SAY THAT FIVE, TEN HOURS A MONTH GOING TO AFFECT HOW WORK IS GETTING DONE OR NOT. I CAN'T PUT THAT ALL ON THE CITY MANAGER.

I CAN'T SIT HERE AND DISAPPROVE HIS -- IN MY OPINION WHAT'S GOING TO HELP THE ASK -- CITY KPIS. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT TO GET DONE.

THAT'S WHAT I SEE AS A PERSON HERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING.

HONEST, 80% OF MY TIME HAS TO BE SPENT ON WORK. OTHER 20% IS ADMINISTRATIVE, E-MAILS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. EVERY STAFF SHOULD HAVE THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS SET UP.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT, THEN YOU NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE.

THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. >> I SEE THIS ALMOST EMPLOYEE EVALUATION.

>> AND US. >> THAT INCLUDES US AS WELL. >> CAN YOU REREAD THE MOTION?

>> MOTION FAILS 3-4. NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. TIME IS 10:04.

[11. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE HAVE ITEM 11.1.

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11.4.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.