[00:00:01]
RIGHT.[(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on March 9, 2026.]
TO ORDER THE CITY OF HU HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING.TODAY IS MAR DAY MONDAY, MARCH 9TH, 2026.
UM, ROLL CALL, VICE CHAIR MORALES PRESENT.
MY PLEASURE, LEE, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH TURE.
I JUSTICE, HONOR, TO TEXAS PLEDGE.
TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.
OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MOVING ON TO, UH, SECTION FIVE PRESENTATIONS 5.1.
RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CORPORATION.
HU DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
MY NAME IS DAVID AMSLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
TONIGHT, I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE, UH, DRAFT VERSION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING THROUGH.
UM, AMANDA IS PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW, UH, SO THAT IT WILL POP UP ON YOUR SCREENS, BUT I ALSO SENT AN EMAIL, I BELIEVE FRIDAY EVENING, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AS WELL.
YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT? SURE.
SO TONIGHT I WILL BE WALKING THROUGH, UH, THIS PLAN.
UH, THIS PLAN IS MEANT TO, UH, SET THE PRIORITIES FOR THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UH, WE'LL START WITH THE MISSION AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN WALKING THROUGH THE PILLARS, UM, AND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF ON HOW THIS BOARD COULD MEASURE PROGRESS.
SO THE DRAFT MISSION STATEMENT READS AS TO BUILD A BETTER HUDDLE BY ATTRACTING AND RETAINING STRONG BUSINESSES, SUPPORTING HIGH VALUE PROJECTS TO CREATE QUALITY JOBS, REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN, AND ENHANCE THE, AND ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
AT ITS CORE, THE EDC IS, UM, TO HELP BUILD AND RETAIN BUSINESSES HERE AT THE CITY OF HUDU.
AND PART OF THAT MISSION ALSO, SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF THAT IS GOING TO BE BETTER PLAYING JOBS, REDUCING THE TAX BURDEN, AND ENHANCING OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT IS HOW THE MISSION STATEMENT IS DRAFTED.
WOULD THE BOARD PREFER TO, TO ASK QUESTIONS ON EACH PAGE, OR WOULD YOU PREFER FOR ME TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING AND THEN HAVE QUESTIONS? I'M, I'M OPEN TO EITHER.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WERE GOOD WITH GOING THROUGH AND THEN HAVING QUESTIONS AT THE END.
SO THE NEXT SECTION IS THE MESSAGE FROM THE BOARD.
UM, THIS IS OUR DRAFT, OF COURSE, BUT THIS SECTION IS TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR THE EDC AND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU ALL ARE MOVING.
UH, SOME OF THE KEY THEMES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS, PREPARING KEY SITES FOR DEVELOPMENT, SUPPORTING EXISTING BUSINESSES, AND MAKING SURE GROWTH, UH, STRENGTHENS THE COMMUNITY FINANCIALLY, NOT HARMS IT.
UH, ALSO YOU WILL SEE THE MEGA SITE DOWNTOWN AND LONG-TERM ECONOMIC RESILIENCE, UH, ADDRESSED HERE, UH, FROM OUR PREVIOUS WORK SESSION.
THOSE WERE THREE AREAS THAT WERE MENTIONED QUITE A FEW TIMES.
THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HER MISSION STATEMENT.
[00:05:03]
THEN WE GO INTO THE PLAN.SO THE PLAN IS A DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK FOR THIS BOARD AND STAFF, UM, THAT HELPS GUIDES BUSINESS ATTRACTION, INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS, OUR INCENTIVE USE, UH, AND PROGRAM PRIORITIES.
UH, THE PLAN IS NOT A SPECIFIC LIST OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, THE BOARD IS LOOKING TO GET DONE OR INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, ALL OF THOSE WILL STILL DEPEND ON MARKET CONDITIONS, PARTNERSHIPS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CITY APPROVALS.
THIS PLAN IS REALLY A STRUCTURE OR, OR A GUARDRAIL, IS ITS INTENTION OF, HEY, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MENTIONED HERE OR COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE HERE, UH, IT IS A REMINDER OF, HEY, LET'S REFOCUS ON OUR ACTUAL PRIORITIES NEXT.
SO THE FOUR PILLARS THAT I WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY FROM THE, THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND YOUR PREVIOUS PLANS IS INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS AND STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION, BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RECRUITMENT, AND THEN ECONOMIC RESILIENCE, SORRY.
AND EACH OF THOSE HAVE A FEW MISSION INITIATIVES, UH, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY.
ONE, WE HAVE POSITION, WE'RE STILL ON THE SAME PAGE, SORRY.
UH, POSITION PRIORITY SITES FOR NEAR AND MIDTERM DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ENSURE PRIORITY RETAIL, MIXED USE, AND EMPLOYMENT SITES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE READY AND COMPLETELY, UH, COMPETITIVELY POSITIONED TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT.
UH, COTTON, WOOD AND MEGA SITE ARE DEFINITELY THE TWO BIGGEST SITES THAT I CAN THINK OF.
UM, COTTON WOOD, MORE SO ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.
BUT MEGASITE NEEDS TO CONTINUE STRATEGICALLY DEVELOPING, UH, SUPPORT, STRATEGIC ACCELERATION OF CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
RECENTLY, THE, UH, HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS TAKEN ON SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE CITY PROJECTS, UH, IN THE EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE GETTING DONE TIMELY.
AND SO THIS IS TO, UH, BE AN EXTRA HAND OR AN EXTRA OVERSIGHT ON TIMELY COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS.
NEXT, WE HAVE BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RECRUITMENT.
UH, TWO A IS TO FOCUS ON RETIRE, UH, RECRUITMENT ON RETAIL AND DESTINATION BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE SALES TAX.
SO THIS IS THE OBJECTIVE THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT YOUR RE RECENT WISHLIST SURVEY, WHICH HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT RETAIL, UH, OPTIONS THERE AND, AND LISTED SEVERAL, BUT THEY PRIORITIZE DINING, ENTERTAINMENT, AND FAMILY ORIENTED USES, UH, AS WELL AS ANCHOR RETAIL, UH, SUCH AS A LARGE GROCERY STORE, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
THIS OBJECTIVE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON RAISING THE SALES TAX IN THE HOPES OF PRODUCING THE OVERALL BURDEN OF TAXPAYER RESIDENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
USE INCENTIVES STRATEGICALLY TO SUPPORT LONG-TERM ECONOMIC RETURN, UH, LEVERAGE INCENTIVES AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT SUPPORT CLUSTERING CO-TENANCY, AND LONG-TERM PERFORMANCE, UH, RATHER THAN MAYBE IN THE MOMENT WINS OR, HEY, THIS, THIS IS A REALLY BIG NAME, THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR US.
BUT IF IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY, UH, THIS IS STATING TO, TO AVOID THAT, UH, COMPLETE THE RIGHT PROJECTS THROUGH CLARITY, PREPARATION, AND DISCIPLINE APPROACH.
THIS IS MORE ON THE, UH, STAFF SIDE, BUT TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE, UH, EXPECTATIONS, SITE LOCATION SPECIFICS, AND INSTEAD OF GUIDELINES, SO DEVELOPERS CAN QUICKLY DETERMINE WHETHER HUTTO IS THE RIGHT FIT.
UH, SO YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, THE WORD QUICKLY THERE IS MENTIONED.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE A DEVELOPER OR AN INTERESTED PARTY REACHING OUT TO 'EM, THAT THAT PROCESS OF KICKING TIRES IS, IS IDENTIFIED QUICKLY AND MOVING INTO THE NEXT STEPS, WHETHER THAT'S TALKING SERIOUS ABOUT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS OR, HEY, HOWTO IS JUST NOT RIGHT FOR US.
UH, NEXT IS BUSINESS RETENTION AND ITS, UH, EXPANSION.
WE WANT TO IDENTIFY EXISTING INTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT IMPACT BUSINESS SUCCESS.
UH, SO SOMETHING THIS BOARD DEFINITELY HAS AN INTEREST IN IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEING THE VOICE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH THINGS LIKE UDC EDCS OR PERMIT PROCESSES OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
EDC IS MEANT TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SO IF THERE IS AN INTERNAL POLICY THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPEDING ANY BUSINESS, UH, FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY THAT AND, AND WORK THROUGH A SOLUTION, NEXT IS, AND WITH A GROWING COMMUNITY, THOSE, THOSE POLICIES ARE GONNA CHANGE, RIGHT? SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF MAKING SURE ANYTIME WE ADOPT A NEW POLICY
[00:10:01]
THAT IT, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.BUSINESS EXPANSION THROUGH TARGETED COORDINATION.
UH, THIS IS A OVERARCHING OBJECTIVE, UH, THAT ALLOWS, UH, STAFF TO CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH, UH, RELEVANT PARTNERS AS NEEDED TO ADDRESS COMMON EXTERNAL CONSTRAINT CONSTRAINTS, EXCUSE ME, UH, IMPACTING BUSINESS GROWTH SUCH AS WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY OR, OR SITE LIMITATIONS.
THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE ECONOMIC RESILIENCE.
FOR THE FIRST ONE, WE HAVE USE ECONOMIC DATA TO GUIDE DECISIONS.
WE SHOULD BE MONITOR MONITORING ECONOMIC TRENDS AND PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO INFORM RECRUITMENT PRIORITIES, INCENTIVE USE, AND STRATEGIC ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY SETTING A, AN OVERARCHING PRIORITY, BUT IN THE HOPES OF THE MORE WE CONTINUE TO MATURE AS A CITY, WHEN THIS BOARD IS SEEING PRODUCTS, THAT THERE IS A LOT OF DATA BACKING THOSE PRODUCTS UP INSTEAD OF MORE NARRATIVE BASE.
SO MOVING THINGS TOWARDS HARD DATA RATHER THAN, UH, SOFT DATA.
MAINTAIN A BALANCE OF MIXED INDUSTRIES AND REVENUE SOURCES, UH, PURSUE ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION THAT LIMITS OVER, OVER RELIANCE ON ANY SINGLE SINGLE INDUSTRY OR REVENUE STREAM WHILE SUPPORTING SOUND ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE.
UM, MOST CITIES IN AMERICA, UH, REALLY PLACE AN EMPHASIS ON THIS.
UM, EVER SINCE THE AUTO INDUSTRY IN DETROIT, UH, WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET, DETROIT IS A FAMOUS EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT OUTCOME CAN BE, BECAUSE ECONOMICS ALWAYS CHANGE.
AND WHAT THE CONSUMER IS LOOKING FOR ALWAYS CHANGES.
SO HAVING A DIVERSE PORTFOLIO, UH, MAKES YOU HARDER OR MORE RECESSION PROOF.
OR IF ONE INDUSTRY GOES UNDER FOR SOME REASON THAT WE CANNOT PREDICT, UH, IT IS NOT CATASTROPHIC, REGULARLY REVIEW AND ADJUST, UH, HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PROGRAMS. SO EVALUATE THE EDC PROGRAM AND IN INITIATIVE OUTCOMES TO ASSURE ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH BOARD PRIORITIES, COMMUNITY DEMAND, AND MEASURABLE RESULTS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OBJECTIVE WHEN, WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM.
I THINK ONE THAT, UH, THE BOARD RECENTLY HAS STARTED IS A LOT OF DOWNTOWN FACADE GRANTS OR DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THIS WOULD JUST SAY, HEY, ANNUALLY OR BI-ANNUALLY, WE NEED TO BE REVIEWING HOW EFFECTIVE THIS PROGRAM IS AND, AND ACTUALLY ATTACHING METRICS TO IT.
ALRIGHT, SO THESE ARE RECOMMENDED, UH, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT THE BOARD COULD HAVE REPORTED TO THEM.
UH, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A A TIME BASIS IF IT SHOULD BE MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, ANNUALLY, BI-ANNUALLY.
THESE, THESE ARE THINGS FOR THE BOARD TO DECIDE AS WELL AS IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON HERE OR NOT ON HERE THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO SEE ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN ADD IT.
BUT FOR PILLAR ONE, WE HAVE PRIORITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CI PROJECTS DELIVERED ON OR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
UH, SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN INTERESTING KPI FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITY PROJECT EFFICIENCY VERSUS EDC PROJECT EFFICIENCY, THAT WOULD BE AN OVERALL OUTCOME TO TELL YOU, UH, IF MOVING PROJECTS TO EDC IS ACTUALLY HAVING THE DESIRED OUTCOME, RIGHT? YOU COULD COME BACK A YEAR LATER AND EDC PROJECTS ARE GOING AT THE SAME PACE AS CITY PROJECTS.
SO THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, IS THIS PROGRAM WORTH THE EFFORT OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING? UH, NEXT IS SALES TAX GROWTH ATTRIBUTED ATTRIBUTED TO NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESSES IS AN OPTION.
THEN WE GO TO BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RECRUITMENT RECRUITED PROJECTS ALIGNED WITH BOARD DEFINED PRIORITY CATEGORIES.
SO THE BOARD, UH, RECENTLY CONDUCTED A WISHLIST SURVEY.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALSO WORKING THROUGH YOUR INCENTIVE POLICY TO CLEARLY DEFINE A TARGETED APPROACH.
SO EVERY TIME WE RECRUIT A NEW BUSINESS, ESSENTIALLY THIS WOULD BE, UH, MEASURING IF IT WAS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE PLAN WAS, AND THEN YEAR OVER YEAR SALES TAX REVENUE GROWTH.
LIKE WE'RE GOING TO THE NEXT PAGE.
THERE ARE RECURRENT RECURRING DEVELOPMENT ARE PROCESS BARRIERS IDENTIFIED AND RESOLVED.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THIS WOULD BE A REPORT MAYBE ON A YEARLY BASIS.
HEY, WE IDENTIFIED, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A BARRIER FOR, FOR A BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY OF HU.
AND WE'VE RESOLVED THREE OF THEM, RIGHT? SO YOU COULD BE MEASURING BOTH THERE, UH, RATIO OF, UH, COMMERCIAL
[00:15:01]
AND SALES TAX REVENUE COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.THIS IS PROBABLY THE MAIN DRIVER IN MY OPINION, OF REDUCING THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
SO INCREASING THAT RATIO TO WHERE OUR OVERALL REVENUE, UH, MORE OF IT IS COMING FROM THE COMMERCIAL AND SALES TAX SIDE WOULD BE A GREAT METRIC THAT I BELIEVE RESIDENTS WOULD FEEL AND FI AND IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, RIGHT? AND BE ABLE TO REPORT ON THAT.
FINALLY, DISTRIBUTE DISTRIBUTION OF TAX REVENUE ACROSS MAJOR INDUSTRIES, INDUSTRY CATEGORIES RELATED TO HEDC PROJECTS.
THAT'S BACK TO ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION, AS WELL AS AN ANNUAL REVIEW AND ADJUSTMENT OF PROGRAMS BASED ON PERFORMANCE.
SO POTENTIALLY THIS COULD BE, UH, IMPLEMENTED INTO YOUR BUDGET SEASON.
YOU COULD ASSIGN METRICS OR PERFORMANCE RATINGS TO EVERY PROJECT THAT THE EDC DOES, UH, AND TAKE A MERIT-BASED APPROACH TO BUDGETING.
AND THEN FINALLY, AS YEAR OVER YEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE VERSUS COMMERCIAL TAX REVENUE.
THIS WOULD BE SHOWING ESSENTIALLY IF THAT PIE IS, IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION EACH YEAR.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WE, WE WOULD NEED A PICTURE OF THIS BOARD, UH, TO PUT ON HERE.
AND YOU DO HAVE ONE MEMBER VACANT CURRENTLY.
SO, UH, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR TONIGHT, UH, FROM THE BOARD IS CONFIRMATION OR CORRECTION OF THE PILLARS, UH, REFLECTING THE DIRECTION THAT THE EDC WANTS TO FOCUS ON OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THEN ANY KPI RECOMMENDATIONS OR APPROVAL OF KPI RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IN THE FUTURE, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, DAVID, SO WHAT WE SEE UP HERE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR KPIS.
AND WE USE THESE SOMEWHAT TO MEASURE PROGRESS YEAR OVER YEAR.
AND JAMES IS TELLING ME, COMING FROM RYAN, JAMES HAS, HAS TOLD ME BEFORE, I'M NEW TO THE KPI THING, I DIDN'T TAKE THIS IN COLLEGE, THE KPIS ARE A ONE WAY TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE EMPLOYEES WE INTERACT WITH TO WHERE IF CHENEY'S HITTING THEM, GREAT JOB.
IF SHE'S MISSING THEM, WHY IS SHE MISSING 'EM? IS IT WHAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S ONE WAY OF MEASURING SUCCESS.
I GOT ALL THOSE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO MY ONLY ISSUE IS, OKAY, AND I SAY THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I FEEL LIKE THE KPIS ARE EXTREMELY VAGUE TO WHERE ANYBODY COULD DO ANYTHING AND THEY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, I WAS A SUCCESS.
AND THE EXAMPLES I'LL HAVE IS SAY, PILLAR, UM, TWO YEAR OVER YEAR SALES TAX REVENUE GROWTH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE TREND BEEN? AND DOES THAT MEAN 1% OF SUCCESS EVEN THOUGH THE CITY'S UP 5% OR SOMETHING, OR HAS BEEN UP FIVE? AND SO TO ME THAT KPI SHOULD BE MORE LIKE YEAR OVER YEAR SALES TAX GROWTH EXCEEDING X PERCENT.
THAT WAY WE CAN SAY, LOOK, EVERY YEAR WE AVERAGE 8% INFLATION'S THREE.
AND SO FOR ME, NOT JUST IF WE'RE GONNA USE THIS AS MEASUREMENT OF SUCCESS, UM, ANOTHER ONE IS SAY PILLAR THREE, RATIO OF COMMERCIAL AND SALES TAX REVENUE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
WHAT IS THAT NOW? WHAT IS IT? DO WE WANT IT, HAVE IT BE AT? BECAUSE WHEN I READ EDGES RATIO, YOU COULD SAY, WELL, IT'S 40 TO 60.
THE WAY I READ THAT, AND WE JUST GOT TRAINED SATURDAY, BUT THE WAY I READ THAT IS VIRTUALLY ANY RATIO WE HAVE IS NOW A SUCCESS.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE WANNA GO, AND THEN MAYBE WE WANT LIKE GO FROM A 40% COMMERCIAL TO A 60%, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT IN ONE YEAR.
SO MAYBE WE WANNA SAY, LOOK, WE'RE AT 40 AND 60 AND NOW WE WANNA GO TO 50 50 OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN THE LAST EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS, UM, PILLAR FOUR YEAR OVER YEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE VERSUS COMMERCIAL TAX REVENUE.
AGAIN, THAT DIDN'T EVEN SAY GROWTH.
AND SO I READ THAT AND I GO, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, IS A SUCCESS AND WHAT I'M HOPING TO GET, AND MAYBE I THE MEAN SIDE OF ME AND, UH, AND THE WHOLE KPI THING, MAYBE I MIGHT BE USING THIS FOR THE BAD REASONS, BUT I'M WANTING THIS TO WHERE LIKE WHEN, WHEN CHENEY OR STAFF BRINGS US PROJECTS, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, UH, THIS IS GONNA GO TOWARDS THIS AND HELP US MEET THIS GOAL.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, A KPI WOULD BRING UP IS THAT WHATEVER RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WHATEVER THAT SHEET IS WE DO, WHAT
[00:20:01]
IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WE WANT? THAT'S A KPI, SO THAT THEN WE CAN SAY, CHENEY, THE KPI IS 15.WHY ARE YOU, WHY DO YOU WANT THIS SO BAD AT 8%? WELL, BECAUSE I THINK IN THIS IS GONNA HELP ANOTHER ONE, IT'S GONNA BE 20%.
LIKE IF IT'S AN ACADEMY THAT COMES, WE SAY, OKAY, LOOK, WE'RE OKAY WITH NO RATE OF RETURN HERE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING BETTER.
THAT WAS MY INITIAL THING, IS I'D LIKE US TO, AFTER WE GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT, TO REALLY DIG DOWN AND GO, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO? HOW DO WE SET THE GOALS BACK INTO THE KPIS TO WHERE WE'RE SWEATING ON PROJECTS, STAFF SWEATING WHEN PROJECTS WERE HAPPENING AND THE PUBLIC IS SITTING BACK SLEEPING SOUNDLY AT NIGHT THAT ALL THE REST OF US ARE LOSING SLEEP BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT MISSING A KPI, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING KPIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEFINITION IS IN THE NAME.
IT'S, IT'S A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR, RIGHT? SO WHAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO DO IS, AS, AS STAFF, I NORMALLY PRESENT THESE TYPES OF OPTIONS WITHOUT TARGETS.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY JOB TO SET THE TARGET, RIGHT? THE, THE BOARD OR THE CITY MANAGER OR CEO, THEIR, THEIR POSITION IS TO, TO SET THE TARGET.
SO GIVING TARGETS FOR ALL OF THESE, I THINK, UH, WOULD BE WISE, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN TELL HOW THE CORPORATION IS PERFORMING AS A WHOLE.
SO, IT, IT, IT MAY ALSO BE WISE, UM, AND I'M, I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT MAY ALSO BE WISE TO COME TO A WORK SESSION WITH ALL OF THE DATA IN HAND OF THE KPIS THAT THIS BOARD IS INTERESTED IN MEASURING SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A REALISTIC APPROACH ON WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE AND YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGES.
WHAT I MIGHT ADD IS THAT WHAT WE COULD DO, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT MIKE IS SAYING ABOUT MAKING IT QUANTIFIABLE, BECAUSE HOW DO YOU MEASURE IT? IT WOULD BE TOO, IT'S A SOFT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
BUT IF WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING A SHOT IN THE DARK, OH, THIS IS A GOOD PERCENTAGE, 10% GROWTH, WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
WHAT HAVE WE DONE THE LAST FEW YEARS? AND AT LEAST WE CAN BUILD ON THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, GUESSING TO SOME EXTENT.
I ALSO AM A BIG PROPONENT OF LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO US, MAYBE A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF US AND SEE HOW THEY HAVE, UH, GROWN AND FOR PERHAPS USING THESE KPIS AND, UM, AND THEN MODIFYING IT TO OUR NEEDS.
UM, QUANTIFI QUANTIFYING OUR TARGETS.
YEAH, I, I HAVE A COMMENTARY JUST ON GOALS IN GENERAL.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF GETTING A MINUTIAE HERE.
IS ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH SMART GOALS? MM-HMM
UM, AND, AND DO USE SMART GOALS BEING SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE.
I DON'T HAVE TO MEMORIZED, ACHIEVABLE AND RELEVANT AND TIME BOUND.
AND THEN THERE'S A NUMBER OF PAPERS THAT HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES ABOUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN, YOU KNOW, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KPIS AND GOALS AND TARGETS.
SO WHAT, SO A, A GOAL ISN'T AS A, THE KPIS A METRIC, THE GOAL IS WHAT YOUR OUTCOMES ACHIEVE.
SO HOW DO WE DEFINE GOALS, TARGETS, AND KPIS, AND HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT? SO I, I'M NOT GETTING ON EDC ON ANYTHING.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAVING A WORKSHOP AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, BUT BEING ABLE TO FIND A SMART GOAL AND WHAT THOSE TARGETS ARE AND WHAT THOSE KPIS ARE AND HOW THAT WAS ALL MESHED TOGETHER.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THESE ONE-ON-ONE IDENTIFYING, GETTING SPECIFICS, FOLLOWING OTHER PEOPLE'S LEADS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE GOALS, THE TASK AND THE KPIS TOGETHER AS A STRATEGY AND, AND WHAT THAT METRIC LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITY OF HU AND IT MAY DIFFER FOR EDC, IT MAY DIFFER FOR CIPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST THROWING OUT KPIS AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO, THAT'S A METRIC, IT'S NOT A GOAL.
SO IF OUR GOAL IS TO DO SOME TYPE OF GROWTH OR YEAR OVER YEAR OR THIS OR THAT, THEN WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE GOAL, A SMART GOAL FIRST, AND THEN DEFINE THE METRICS, WHICH IS THE KPIS.
AND THEN THE SPECIFIC TASKS FOR THAT, SO IS THE GOALS, THE PRIMARY FOCUS, I FORGOT SHE CALLED IT DOC, UH, UM, GALI.
THERE WAS A FEW NAMES WE WERE GIVING HER.
SO THE, THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF A BOARD OR A COUNCIL, PRIVATE SECTOR OR PUBLIC SECTOR IS TO DEFINE THE, THE WHAT AND THE WHY.
SO YES, YOUR, YOUR POSITIONS WOULD BE
[00:25:01]
DEFINING WHAT YOUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE WITHIN THE NEXT TO TWO TO THREE YEARS.IS THAT THE PRIMARY FOCUS? LIKE IS OUR GOAL SPEED AND PROJECT READINESS? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I WOULD SET UP TODAY.
SO I THINK, I THINK THE GOAL, LIKE ON PILLAR TWO OF ONE, TO ME THE GOAL IS SALES, TAX, GROWTH AND DISCIPLINE.
AND THEN BASED ON THAT YOU'VE GOT KPIS, RIGHT? TO HELP YOU GET TO SALES TAX GROWTH AND DISCIPLINE.
CORRECT? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE.
I DO THINK THEY'RE MAYBE A LITTLE TOO VAGUE, BUT MAYBE THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION THAT'S NOT BUILT INTO THE, TO THE DOCUMENT OR THE PRESENTATION.
BUT, UM, LIKE MIKE WAS SAYING, LIKE A BASELINE OF METRICS OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD DO THIS WITH EVERY CATEGORY, BUT ALSO, UM, THAT GROWTH, I DUNNO IF YOU'D CALL IT COMPOUNDING GROWTH, BUT LET'S SAY WE'RE AT 10%, WE WANNA BE AT 15, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR WE HIT 15, THEN THE YEAR AFTER THAT WE DON'T, OUR BASELINE IS NO, NO LONGER, IN MY OPINION, OUR BASELINE, UH, BASELINE IS NO LONGER 10, IT'S NOW 15.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, VARIABLES THAT, THAT PLAY INTO THAT.
BUT YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED A BASELINE OF METRICS, OF, OF INFORMATION AND TO, TO GET THERE.
'CAUSE UM, WHAT WAS THE ONE I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UM, LIKE THE ANNUAL REVIEW AND ADJUSTMENT OF PROGRAMS BASED ON PERFORMANCE.
WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT BASELINE OF PERFORMANCE TO GO OFF OF, THEN A KPI ISN'T REALLY ANYTHING.
SO, AND AGAIN, THAT MAY BE ASSUMED.
MAYBE YOU HAVE OR YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AND, AND THIS IS THE, THE GENERAL, UM, OVERARCHING VIEW OF THAT.
BUT, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE TO, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A STANDARD OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
OTHERWISE YOU DON'T HAVE A KPI MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, WHEN I DO KPIS IN MY DAY JOB, IT'S, IT'S ALL BASED ON WHAT DID YOU DO YESTERDAY AND HOW DID YOU IMPROVE FROM YESTERDAY OR LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH OR LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THEN THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL MEASURED OUT JUST TO ANNOYING, ANNOYING DEGREES AT SOMETIMES.
SO, UM, WHICH IS WHY I STILL DON'T LIKE KPIS, BUT I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
I'M TRYING TO, THIS, UM, THIS REPORT OR THAT YOU'RE JUST PRESENTED, UM, WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE POSTED? LIKE WHERE WOULD IT BE ACCESSIBLE TO SOMEONE TYPICALLY? UM, AND, AND THIS IS GETTING INTO SOME FUTURE TALK, BUT MM-HMM
FOR THE CITY, WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLANNING PAGE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WOULD DO THE SAME FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND PLACING IT BOTH ON THE EDC WEBSITE AND THE CITY WEBSITE.
JUST TO CAPTURE DIFFERENT FOLKS MM-HMM
UM, BUT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UM, ONE OF THE SOFTWARES THAT COUNCIL BUDGETED FOR QUALTRICS IS HELPING US ESSENTIALLY, UH, STANDARDIZE AND PUT A LOT OF THESE METRICS INTO ONE PLACE AND CREATE, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT.
CREATE DATA VISUALIZATION AND CREATE DASHBOARDS.
UM, SO BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
UM, TO WHERE ANY RESIDENT CAN, CAN LOG ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND SEE HOW THE CITY IS PERFORMING OVERALL.
I WILL, I WILL ALSO MENTION KPIS ARE, UM, ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU GET TO, TO THIS HIGH LEVEL OF KPI, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN LIKE AN INTERNAL KPI, AN INTERNAL KP, I COULD BE RESPOND TO REQUESTS FOR INFORMATIONS OR RFIS WITHIN 24 HOURS MM-HMM
RIGHT? THAT THAT'S ONE THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HIT, YOU KNOW, 98%, 99% OF THE TIME.
SOME OF THESE SHOULD BE ASPIRATIONAL IN NATURE TO WHERE IF WE, IF WE MISS IT, THAT'S, THAT'S A DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD AND STAFF ON HOW TO GET CLOSER.
BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO GO DIRECTLY INTO PUNITIVE SOMETIMES, UM, DEPENDING ON THE KPI.
AND THEN ALSO IF ALL METRICS AND ALL YOUR KPIS ARE BEING HIT CONSISTENTLY, UH, MY OPINION WOULD BE THAT YOUR KPIS ARE TOO WEAK BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO INDICATE PERFORMANCE AND MM-HMM
NOT EVERY ORGANIZATION IS, UH, ACHIEVING A HUNDRED PERCENT PERFORMANCE.
MY, UM, MY THOUGHT IS THAT WHEN I READ THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS
BUT PERHAPS WE USE 2025 AS, YOU KNOW, A GUINEA PIG YEAR AND TRY TO FILL IN SOME OF THESE METRICS MM-HMM
TO SEE WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN HOW WOULD WE PRESENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THIS PLATFORM HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
UM, BECAUSE FOR ME, I READ THAT AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL SHOW ME WHAT THAT MEANS.
I DON'T, I SEE THE WORDS AND I, IT SOUNDS REALLY NICE, BUT AG AGAIN,
[00:30:01]
LIKE GIVING THEM SUBSTANCE IN A, IN A REAL METRIC THAT MATCHES UP TO EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS.YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE JUST ADD A COLUMN AND SAY HOW WE DID IN 25, OR HOW WE DID IN 26 OR WHATEVER.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE, IT'S GREAT TO PUT NUMBERS IN THERE, BUT WE CAN'T GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS BECAUSE THEN SOMEONE WILL LOOK AT IT AND GO CROSS-EYED, NOT WANNA READ IT.
AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE INTERESTED AND HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT, JUST MAKING SURE WE KEEP A BALANCE BETWEEN THE WRITTEN WORD AND THE NUMBERS, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE, AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU SAID INTERNAL KPIS, SO, AND OBVIOUSLY OUR STAFF'S GONNA HAVE INTERNAL KPIS THAT THEY, THAT'S GONNA GO ALONG WITH THIS, BUT IS THAT INCORPORATED INTO THIS AS WELL? OR, OR HOW DO WE KNOW, HOW DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT, HEY, WE ANSWERED THE PHONE 98% OF THE TIME, KIND OF AS AN EXAMPLE? YEAH, SO, SO WE DO TRACK THAT NOW.
UH, FUNNY YOU SAID 98% THAT THAT IS THE AVERAGE.
UM, OVER THE PAST THREE MONTHS, WE'VE HAD 12,000 PHONE CALLS AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE ANSWERED 98% OF THE TIME.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A WAY WITH OUR NEW PHONE SYSTEM, EVERY TIME THAT PHONE RINGS IS NOT ANSWERED, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY, YOU'RE TELLING ME 98% OF ALL PHONE CALLS TO THIS CITY ARE ANSWERED.
WHEN ARE THEY ANSWERED? THAT'S THE QUESTION.
SO THERE IS ROLLOVER, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
ARE THEY ANSWERED THE MINUTE THEY'RE CALLING OR ARE THEY ANSWERED LIKE IT'S RETURN CALL ANSWER.
SO IT IS BASED OFF THE, THE WORKFLOW, RIGHT? LIKE THE, THE OVERFLOW WHERE, SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP IF I RING.
ACTUALLY, HE BROUGHT IT UP
I FEEL LIKE WHERE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CONGRESS THING IF A PERSON CALLS YEAH.
ARE YOU TELLING ME 90% OF THE TIME THAT PHONE CALL GETS ANSWERED AT SOME POINT WHILE IT IS RINGING? YES.
THAT, THAT IS WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE SAYING.
NOW, WHEN YOU TAKE IN THE AMOUNT OF, UH, ROLLOVERS THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH, IT DOES DROP DOWN.
UM, LIKE IF YOU'RE, LIKE, IF YOU STAY ON FOR 30 MINUTES AND IT FINALLY GOES AROUND TO SOMEBODY THAT ANSWERS, I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE NUMBER.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT IT'S EXTREME.
I'M BEING A LITTLE FACETIOUS, BUT YEAH.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE POINTS WHERE IT'S NOT ANSWERED, WHICH WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO TRACK NOW.
WELL, HERE'S WHAT I'M HOPING IS, I'M HOPING WE GET, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE WRONG WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, WE ADOPT A STRATEGIC PLAN IN TIME, OR AS PART OF THE BUDGET MM-HMM
BECAUSE I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S ONE ISSUE WE'RE HAVING ON CITY COUNCIL IS THAT WE ADOPT THIS STUFF AND THEN THE BUDGET HALF THE YEAR IS NOT EVEN FOCUSED ON THAT.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN SPEND THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS REALLY COMING UP.
THINGS LIKE, FOR BUSINESS ATTRACTION RECRUITMENT, TO ME, A KPI IS LAND A GROCERY STORE, LIKE A, A COMMITMENT OF A NEW GROCERY STORE, DOESN'T MATTER WHICH ONE, BUT STUFF LIKE THAT.
OR WE WANT TO LAND ONE NATIONAL, UM, SIT DOWN CASUAL RESTAURANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I LIKE TO SEE AS KIND OF ADD IN TO WHERE THERE'S LIKE GOALS THAT WE SAY, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO THAT THEN WHENEVER WE COME UP, WHEN ONE OF US COMES UP WITH SOMETHING, THEN CHENEY OR WHOEVER, AS STAFF CAN SAY, WELL GUYS, THAT'S NOT EVEN ON YOUR PLAN.
WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WHY ARE YOU PROPOSING A GROCERY STORE WHEN WE HAVE SIX OF THEM IN TOWN? THAT'S NOT EVEN A STRATEGIC THING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
BUT I'M THINKING AS WE TALK MORE, MAYBE EACH MEETING WE CAN HAVE LIKE 10, 15 MINUTES OF, HEY, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS YOU GUYS WANNA SEE? AND LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
NO, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT ONE.
AND GET IT TO WHERE IT'S ROBUST SO THAT AFTER THREE TO SAY TWO TO THREE YEARS, WE CAN LOOK BACK ON IT AND GO, MAN, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, LOT OF MEAT ON THERE, BUT WE FOCUSED FOR THREE YEARS AND WE GOT IT DONE.
OR WE GOT 70% DONE OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF, AND I AGREE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DETAILED, BUT TOO DETAILED, BUT SOMETHING LIKE SALES TAX GENERATION GROWTH OF 10% A YEAR, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN AT, BUT A NUMBER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN GO, YEAH, OKAY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
THIS IS GONNA HELP US HIT OUR GOAL.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'D NECESSARILY HAVE TO KNOW LIKE, HEY, 8% THIS YEAR AND 9.5 NEXT YEAR TYPE STUFF.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED PERCENT TO TOUCH ON.
ONE, MY UNDERSTANDING AND CONVERSATION WITH DAVID IS THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MEASURE, NOT WHAT WE WANT THE MEASUREMENT TO BE.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA PAY ATTENTION TO AS A CORPORATION.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GATHERING DATA ON AND REPORTING ON SO THAT WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.
THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT A LOT OF THESE ARE MEASURING THINGS IN AGGREGATE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA SEE THIS DEAL DECISION IS GONNA HAVE, HAVE AN IMPACT THIS YEAR.
IT MAY BE 2, 3, 4, 5 YEARS FROM NOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT.
AND SO SOME OF THAT FLUCTUATION AND JUST THAT NATURAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE.
AND SO IT IS GOING TO IMPACT WHAT
[00:35:01]
WE, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AS FAR AS WE GET INTO THE, THE GRANULAR THE GOALS.I SEE THESE AS WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MEASURE SO THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN INFORM OUR DECISIONS AND WE CAN INFORM OUR GOALS YEAR OVER YEAR AND OUR PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN AFFECT THESE THINGS THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO.
ALSO, THERE'S NINE ON HERE AND WE WERE HOPING TO GET PAIRED DOWN TO FIVE.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MANY ON THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID PIVOTED AND SAID, HEY, WE'LL JUST DO ALL NINE.
I STARTED READING IN AND I LIKED HIM.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF THING YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, THEN TO ME, I, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN A CITY, AND DAVID, I TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU READ EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL'S KPIS, I MEAN, EVERYBODY CAN PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK.
AND THEN YOU GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC, HOW ARE WE DOING? AND THEY WANNA THROW US ALL OUTTA CITY HALL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING GETTING DONE.
THEY'RE SEEING THEIR COSTS GOING UP.
AND I'M LIKE, AGAIN, I'M NOT A EXPERT IN THIS BY ANY MEANS, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A MIDDLE GROUND TO WHERE AT SOME POINT WE CAN SAY, 'CAUSE EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES TO US IS A SALES TAX GROWTH.
BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY? SO HOW ARE WE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS IF EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS SO I GET YOUR POINT, BUT TO ME THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING IN THERE TO WHERE WE CAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER PROBLEM.
WE GOTTA COME BACK AT SOME POINT.
WE GOTTA GRADE YOU, WE GOTTA GRADE OTHER STAFF.
AND IF ALL THE THINGS ARE EASILY MET EVERY YEAR, IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE'RE DOING GREAT.
SEE, I I WHY ARE PEOPLE MISERABLE? DAVID, TELL ME IF I'M THINKING OUTTA LINE HERE, BUT WHEN, BECAUSE I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT MY DAY JOB, RIGHT? BUT LIKE A KPI IS IS SOMETHING THAT HELPS YOU MEASURE CORRECT.
AND, AND IT, IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR ROOT CAUSE, YOUR ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS YES.
TO FIND OUT GOOD OR BAD WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT IS TO, BUT TO ME, THERE HAS TO BE MEASUREMENTS IN THERE.
THERE HAS TO BE GOALS THAT YOU CAN, SO, SO I, I THINK A METRIC, I THINK, RIGHT? I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GAMBOA, I THINK BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS ALL NEW TO THE CITY.
THE CITY HAS NOT HAD KPIS, THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN RAN THAT WAY.
THAT STRATEGIC OPERATION HAS SLOWLY GOTTEN THE CULTURE INCLUDING, UH, COUNCIL AND ORGANIZATION AND STAFF AND CITY MANAGER TO, TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND WE, WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY ROLLING THIS OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE USUALLY IF YOU JUST FLIP A SWITCH, IT, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S ANY, ANY KPI IMPLEMENTATION CONSULTANT WILL, WILL TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS PUSHBACK.
WHAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THE INITIAL KEY, UH, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR IS WE ARE ESTABLISHING A BASELINE, LIKE THIS, THIS BOARD MENTIONED YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BASELINE BEFORE YOU CAN SET SMART GOALS OF HEY, THIS IS WHAT THIS SHOULD BE AND HERE'S SOME GOALS THAT WE THINK WILL AFFECT US IN A POSITIVE WAY.
UM, SO WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING THAT BASE BASELINE, BUT WE ALSO, WE ALSO NEED TO USE THEM TO MEASURE HOW WE'RE DOING.
AND, AND THEY SHOULD NOT ALL BE EASILY ACHIEVABLE.
SOME SHOULD BE DIFFICULT AND WE WILL 100% NOT MEET EVERY KPI.
AND WHAT IS, WHAT IS A GOOD NUMBER OF, LIKE, WE DO THESE, WE DO THESE EVALS AT WORK.
AND IF YOU GET LIKE, 60% IS CONSIDERED GOOD BECAUSE WHEN YOU EVAL 40 PEOPLE, THEY'VE FIGURED OUT THAT IF YOU'RE DOING A CERTAIN, IF YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE ON THIS, THERE'S GOTTA BE A, A PERCENTAGE, AND MAYBE IT'S EVERY BOARD IN AND CITY HAS TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT WHAT PERCENTAGE IS OKAY TO MISS? BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE SETTING IT UP FOR SUCCESS EVERY TIME AND A HUNDRED IS A GOAL, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY MISSING A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
BUT OBVIOUSLY TOO, IF YOU SET IT TOO HARD AND YOU SAY, WELL, HEY, IT'S OKAY TO MISS HALF OF 'EM, THAT CAN ALSO CREATE SOMEWHAT OF A, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WOULD'VE CREATE SOME SORT OF A, UM, ISSUE WITH MORALE TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M ALWAYS FAILING 'CAUSE I EXPERIENCED THAT WHEN 60% IS GOOD, YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S A D WHERE I COME FROM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS BAD.
BUT WHAT IS A GOOD PERCENTAGE? IF YOU DO, IF IN A PERFECT WORLD WHAT PERCENT OF KPIS WOULD GET MISSED? WELL, IT'S ALSO TO THE, THE DEGREE THEY'RE BEING MISSED.
RIGHT? UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IT'S A WORLD OF A MISS IS A MISS.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU DO A KPI, AND IT'S LIKE THE GOLD OR NOT THE GOAL, THE KPI IS 5% GROWTH.
AND YOU COME IN AT THREE, YOU MISS IF THEN BY 2%.
IF THEN IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ARGUE
[00:40:01]
HOW CLOSE YOU GOT TO EACH ONE OF 'EM, WELL THEN AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, WELL THEN WHY'D YOU HAVE IT? WELL, SO, SO THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU ARE HITTING 80% OF YOUR KPIS, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS SALES, SALES GROWTH TAX.AND THE SALES TAX ONLY GREW BY 1%.
THE BOARD WOULD RIGHTFULLY PLACE A LITTLE BIT MORE EMPHASIS ON THAT BECAUSE OF HOW, UH, BADLY IT WAS MISSED.
I I WOULD ALSO SAY IN GOVERNMENT, THERE'S, THERE'S A KEY QUALIFIER HERE.
IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, IT'S EASY TO SET KPIS AND SET AMBITIOUS GOALS BECAUSE THE, THE GOAL OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS TO IMPROVE, MAKE MORE CAPITAL, MAKE MORE INVESTMENTS.
ON THE PUBLIC SECTOR SIDE, WE'RE ANSWERING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
SO I HAVE NOTICED A TENDENCY BY GOVERNMENTS TO SET THEM KIND OF EASY, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE PUTTING OUT A REPORT THAT, HEY, WE GOT 60% OF THINGS DONE, THAT'S NOT GOOD TO THE PUBLIC, WE NEED TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT DONE.
SO I HAVE NOTICED A TENDENCY TO, TO GO A LITTLE LIGHTER ON THEM.
I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT BECAUSE I THINK QTO IS IN A PRIME POSITION TO REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE AND, AND PUSH THINGS.
I, I THINK 75 TO 80% COMPLETION RATE IS, IS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC COULD DIGEST WHILE ALSO BEING EDUCATED THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, IF YOU GET OUT OF THAT C PLUS RANGE, THEY, THEY WOULD THINK D FAILING GRADE FOR SURE.
'CAUSE THE PUBLIC'S OPERATING ON A PRIVATE MINDSET, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO YOU'D SAY A 60 IS GOOD AND THEY'RE GOING, NO, NO, NO, NO.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE TOO.
IT'S JUST WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THE A, B, C, D THING.
IF YOU START OFF AT 80, 85 AND YOU HAVE GREAT IMPROVEMENT, YOU MIGHT GO FROM 85 TO 87 MM-HMM
BUT IF YOU STARTED AT 65 OR 70, AND NOW YOU'VE GONE FROM 70 TO 80, BUT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CHANGING THE MEASUREMENT THING, I'D RATHER SEE YEAR OVER YEAR WE JUMPED FROM 70 TO 80 MM-HMM
SO IT'S, IT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT THE CURVE SO IT'S ALL ON THE END, YOU REALLY CAN'T DIFFERENTIATE WHERE THINGS ARE NOT REAL ACCEPTABLE AND SOME BARELY ACCEPTABLE.
AND SOME ARE ACCEPTABLE 'CAUSE YOU'VE CRUSHED THE LINE TOGETHER.
BUT IF YOU WIDEN THAT DISTRIBUTION OUT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE BARELY PERFORMING, JUST ADEQUATELY FORM PERFORMING, OKAY, PERFORMING BETTER THAN AVERAGE PERFORMING AND THEN OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE.
YOU, YOU, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, YOU GOTTA, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE, IF YOU'RE STARTING OUT FIRST TIME, YOU DON'T WANT TO START OUT WITH, OH, WE'RE AT 55%.
YOU WANT TO, YOU DO WANNA HAVE THAT PSYCHOLOGY.
SO MAYBE IT CHANGES OVER TIME.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOUR PER WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE ON WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR GOAL FOR THE GOALS? YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S A METADATA THING HERE.
IT'S LIKE, SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SEE WHERE YOU NEED THE MOST HELP, THEN YOU WANT TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 50 AND 60%.
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING'S ABOVE 50%.
SO YOU JUST KIND OF CUT THAT OFF AND, AND, AND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO JUST EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAR OVER YEAR WE WERE AT 30%.
WE'VE HAD A, YOU KNOW, 60% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR OR PAST TO PRESENT TYPE OF THING.
SO THERE'S SOME PR AND MARKETING STUFF THAT GOES WITH THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET BETTER AND THEREFORE HIGHLIGHT WHAT YOU'RE NOT DOING WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE STRICTER, I THINK.
BUT STARTING, SO YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN I WAS, I WAS JUST THINKING YOU WOULD SET YOUR KPIS BASED ON KNOWING, LIKE AT WORK, WE ARGUE EVERYTHING.
THERE'S, YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY SEEING WHERE I GET THIS FROM.
SO THERE'S A GOAL, OR YOU'VE GOT YOUR QUOTAS AND WE'RE ALL LIKE, HEY, THAT'S
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO? AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, BUT THIS IS KIND OF EASY.
SO I WAS LOOKING AT THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU, I WAS LOOKING AT IT LIKE, SOME OF THESE KPIS ARE GONNA BE LIKE HONESTLY, UH, SALES TAX GROWTH IS PROBABLY OUT OF YEAH.
BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY A ECONOMIC, AND IT IS A TWO OR THREE YEAR A DEAL DONE TODAY.
WE DON'T GET FOR THREE YEARS, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL THE GOAL THAT WE'RE MAKING, RIGHT? DECISIONS.
SO I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT IT LIKE, WE HAVE A GOAL TO HIT 75 TO 80 AND WE'RE GONNA GONNA HAVE KPIS THAT ARE GONNA SOMEWHAT BE THAT SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE REALLY TOUGH TO HIT.
AND SOME OF 'EM WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE MAYBE EASIER TO HIT WITH THE GOAL BEING EACH YEAR WE TWEAK 'EM, OR EVERY STRATEGIC PLAN, I GUESS WE WOULD TWEAK, TWEAK THEM IN AN EFFORT TO LIKE, HEY, WE'RE SETTING TOO AGGRESSIVE OF A GOALS.
WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE GRADING ON A CURVE.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN GRADUATE COURSES WHERE A 50 WAS PASSING, BUT THE THING IS, IT SEPARATED THE A'S AND THE B'S.
[00:45:01]
ONLY ONE OR TWO.'CAUSE AFTER THE CURVE I WAS STILL AT LIKE 48.
BUT, BUT YOU COULD SIT THERE AND HAVE ALL THESE ON THE UPPER END OF THAT.
BUT WHEN SOMEONE, IF SOMETHING IS REALLY DIFFICULT, IF IT'S A GRADUATE LEVEL DISSERTATION MATERIAL OR WHATEVER, THAT COULD BE USED BY THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, YOU WANT TO SEPARATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXEMPLARY AS OPPOSED TO WILL MAKE, WILL MOVE YOUR PROFIT MARGIN.
AND THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SET THE WORLD ON FIRE AND DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY.
IRMA, YOU DOING KPIS? WELL, I'VE ALREADY VOICED MY, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.
I WAS AGREEING THAT IT SHOULD BE QUANTIFIED.
I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE OUR GOALS AND SAY WE NEED TO IMPROVE IN THESE AREAS, BUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE IT? YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE IT.
AND I THINK THAT WILL ENTAIL ANOTHER, UM, SESSION THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT'S REALISTIC.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE PUTTING, WE WOULD BE PULLING NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES OUT OF THE AIR, AND WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT EITHER IF WE'RE TRYING TO APPEASE OR AT LEAST REFLECT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S GOTTA BE PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
IT CAN'T BE ALL THIS VERBOSE KIND OF VERBIAGE THAT DOESN'T REALLY SAY ANYTHING.
IF, IF, IF THIS CORPORATION WAS ABLE TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC, HEY, UH, THE TOTAL CITY REVENUE ON COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX, UH, WE'VE LOWERED THE PERCENTAGE THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX MAKES UP OUR REVENUE BY 10% OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE THAN, HEY, WE'RE DOING A 10 YEAR INCENTIVE PROGRAM OR AGREEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY AND WE DID OUR PRO FORMA AND IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA MAKE SENSE IN THE FUTURE.
RIGHT? SO, SO SHOWING THOSE HARD, EASILY IDENTIFY MEASURABLES, UM, IS, IS WISE FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER WORK SESSION, ANOTHER MORE MEETINGS ON, ON THIS.
SO JUST KINDA LOOKING AT THE, THE SMART GOAL, THE, THE M AND THE, THE SMART GOAL, THE MEASURABLE ASPECT OF IT, WHICH IS, I, I KIND OF JUST, YEAH, I SEE THIS AS A SKELETON.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT HIS JOB TO DECIDE WHAT THOSE MEASURABLE NUMBERS ARE THAT WE WANNA PUT IN HERE, BUT IT DEFINITELY GIVES US PLENTY TO WORK WITH.
SO CAN I GET A HIGHER LEVEL VIEW HERE, BACK ON, UH, THE PLAN OR IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE, THE PLAN, WHAT THE PLAN IS, WHAT THE PLAN IS NOT.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE FIRST THREE ARE KIND OF THE SAME STATEMENT.
IN FACT, WHAT THE PLAN IS NOT IS ONLY TELLING US WHAT IT IS.
UM, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GET THE ANSWER OUTTA YOU WHAT THOSE, THOSE THINGS ARE.
UM, BUT THEY ALL KIND OF SEEM TO BE THE SAME THING.
THE, THE THE OPENING SENTENCE OR PARAGRAPH AND THEN THE, WHAT THE PLAN IS, IS ALL TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK GUIDE TO FUTURE DECISION MAKING.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, SO JUST A NOTE ON THAT, NOT TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT'S IN THOSE, WHAT THE CONTENT IS
AND THEN THE, THE OTHER THING WAS A PLANNING HORIZON WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT TWO TO THREE PERIOD AND MAYBE GOING FULL, I MEAN INITIALLY HAVING A, YOU KNOW, A TWO TO THREE PERIOD, BUT IS EVER LOOKING AT HAVING TIERS T IERS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ONE YEAR OUT, WHAT IS THREE YEARS OUT? WHAT IS FIVE YEARS OUT? I'M NOT TRYING TO SPECIFY WHAT THOSE TIMEFRAMES ARE, AND MAYBE IT'S ONLY TWO TIERS AND, AND INITIALLY MAY NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT IS THIS STRATEGY, UM, OR STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, DIRECTOR, IS THIS KIND OF LOOKING AT LONGER TERM OR, OR WE JUST WANNA FIX IT ON THE TWO TO THREE YEAR? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, JUST DO THE DYNAMIC, OH, THIS ISN'T ON, SORRY.
UH, JUST DUE TO THE DYNAMIC NATURE OF HU, I THINK TRYING TO GET A FIVE OR 10 YEAR IS AT THIS TIME UNREALISTIC AT THIS TIME.
I THINK ONCE WE GET A LITTLE MORE STABLE, I WOULD SAY MAYBE IN FIVE YEARS WE COULD HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN MM-HMM
UH, BUT FOR NOW THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING REALISTIC.
AND THEN I THINK WE'D BE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR FAILURE AND DISAPPOINTMENT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE CERTAIN THINGS.
WELL, AS IT GO OUT, IT'D BE MORE AMBIGUOUS, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
WELL, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO TO THREE YEAR BEING FEASIBLE.
AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE TYPICAL CONTRACT AND DEVELOPMENT CYCLE, ALSO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IMPACT THIS PLAN WITH DECISIONS MADE IN THE FIRST YEAR.
WE'LL HOPEFULLY SEE SOME OF THOSE COME TO FRUITION BY YEAR TWO AND THREE.
SO THEN WE'RE ABLE TO REASSESS.
IF I HAVE A DIFFERING, UH, OPINION, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN, EVEN A 10 YEAR PLAN.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUPER AMBITIOUS, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A TARGET THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, WE'RE GONNA MISS EVERY TIME.
AND HUDU HAS A SITUATION THAT OVER THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN KIND OF MISFIRING FOR WHATEVER REASON, PERSONNEL OR, UH, ECONOMIC SITUATIONS OR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE INITIALLY.
AND THEN, SO UNFORTUNATELY WE DO HAVE THAT KIND OF A CHECKERED PAST.
BUT I THINK PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH NOT HAVING
[00:50:01]
A LONG-TERM GOAL.AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER HAVING A LONG-TERM GOAL, NOT JUST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT ANY, UH, SMALL BUSINESS, MEDIUM SIZED BUSINESS, LARGE BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE LONG-TERM GOALS.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LONG-TERM GOAL, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET YOUR FORCES TO, TO ACHIEVE, UM, WHAT YOU WANNA DO, NOT JUST FOR THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS.
AND WE'RE RIGHT AT THE PRECIPICE.
WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF SAMSUNG AND TESLA AND ALL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE MOVING HERE AND AROUND US, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME REALLY FOR HUDA TO CAPTURE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE BUSINESS.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT HURO NOW.
I GO TO TAYLOR, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HURO AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
I TALK WITH PEOPLE FROM GEORGETOWN.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HURO, ROUND ROCK, HURO.
SO, UH, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON, ON WHAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IS TO TAKE, UM, A LONG-TERM LOOK AS WELL.
CAN YOU NOT PUT SOME IN THIS? CAN YOU NOT PUT IN SOME FIVE TO 10 YEAR, UM, KPIS TO WHERE, LIKE, SAY THE COTTONWOOD LAND MM-HMM
'CAUSE ANY DECISION WE MAKE TODAY, WE WON'T, WE COULD APPROVE SOMETHING TODAY.
WE'LL BE LUCKY IF WE EVEN SEE THE DIRT MOVING IN THREE YEARS MM-HMM
BUT IF IT'S MORE OF A FIVE TO 10 YEAR, THEN WE CAN YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I DO, I, I AGREE WITH BOTH.
I AGREE THAT YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME SHORT TERM TO MAKE SURE YOU CHUGGING ALONG, BUT THEN YOU ALSO GOTTA HAVE SOME LONGER TERM STUFF TO WHERE YOU MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKING SHORTSIGHTED DECISIONS.
ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH LIKE COMING BACK, LIKE IN A MEETING, LIKE THE NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS, LIKE US BRINGING BACK SOME THINGS WE WANNA HAVE ADDED TO IT AND THEN WE CAN 15 MINUTES OR SO EACH MEETING KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT IT WORDED AND MM-HMM
THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE FOR EACH ONE, BUT YOU CAN MAYBE TELL US THROUGH MESSAGE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE EMAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, OR NO, YOU GUYS ARE, YOU GUYS ARE SCREWING UP.
IF, IF IT, IF WE'RE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS TO REALLY LIKE, TAKE TIME WITH IT, I, I DO NOT MIND BEING HERE 15, 20 MINUTES TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING.
WE CAN GET TOWARDS THE BEGINNING THAT WAY.
YEAH, YOU'D BETTER, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHOOSE THE BEGINNING.
IT DEPENDS IF WE'RE MAD AT, SO THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL BUMP IT TO THE END FAIR AND YOU CAN BE WITH US TILL MIDNIGHT
UM, AND THEN JUST, JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON A, A 10 YEAR LONG-TERM GOAL OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I, I THINK HAVING A GOAL IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT TO HAVING A STRATEGIC PLAN, LIKE AN OVERARCHING 10 YEAR VISION OF WHAT THE BOARD WANTS THE CITY OF HU TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT CHANGES THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, PLANNING AND EXECUTING, UM, DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE TENURE LONG-TERM GOAL ARE SOMETIMES HARDER TO MEASURE, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED, RIGHT? WE, WE WON'T EVEN SEE DIRT MOVING ON ON SEVERAL PROJECTS FOR THREE YEARS.
SO, I MEAN, TRYING TO PREDICT WHAT THAT SALES TAX GROWTH WILL BE IS, IS, IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING LIKE A GUIDING LIGHT FOR THE BOARD TO BE REACHING TOWARDS.
I DON'T THINK THE LIST HAS TO BE TOO LONG FOR THE 10 YEAR PLAN.
AND THEN IT COULD JUST BE A SEPARATE VISUAL REPRESENTATION.
OKAY, HERE ARE THE FOUR THINGS WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
HERE ARE THE THINGS WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT GOAL.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WE ACHIEVED THE GOAL, BUT JUST THAT WE ARE BEING, WE MINDFUL OF IT AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY MOVING IT THROUGH THE PIPELINE IS ALL THAT REALLY.
I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MEASURE TOO MUCH.
JUST STATING WHAT WE HAVE DONE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THAT A UTILITY WAS COMPLETE ON COTTONWOOD.
BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE HURDLE,
LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE HURDLE TO ANYONE BREAKING GROUND THERE.
SO IT'S LIKE THE ANALOGY THAT I'M SURE ALL OF US HAVE HEARD BEFORE, IF YOU HAVE A SHIP CROSSING THE ATLANTIC, IT HAS A GOAL WHERE IT WANTS TO LAND, RIGHT? BUT IT'S CONSTANTLY MAKING ADJUSTMENTS MM-HMM
AS IT GOES BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE STORMS, THE WAVES, A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, IMPACTS, BUT YOU ADJUST AS YOU GO.
AND THAT HAVING, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, A GUIDING LIGHT MM-HMM
WE KNOW WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND, UH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU CAITLIN.
I THINK IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC KPIS LIKE YOU WOULD FOR TWO, THREE YEARS, BUT AT LEAST, UH, A MEASUREMENT OF SOME SORT TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
[00:55:02]
I MEAN, IF WE JUST THINK ABOUT IT, JUST IMAGINE WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK HURO SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS? COULD BE GREAT.I MEAN, IT WOULD BE AWESOME, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE CAN SEE, I CAN SEE BIG THINGS, AND I'M NOT EVEN HALF AS INVOLVED IN AS MANY OF YOU ARE, BUT I CAN SEE THE OVERPASS OVER THE RAILROAD.
I CAN SEE MAJOR ANCHOR STORES ALL OVER.
I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, LEADING EDGE MEDICAL CENTERS HERE.
I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON, OR JUST A, A FUTURE USE LAND MAP MIGHT BE ENOUGH TO JUST DESCRIBE VISUALLY THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISION HAPPENING AND, AND WHAT KIND OF STEPS HAVE WE TAKEN.
SO HAS, HAS THIS BOARD REVIEWED THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S ONE AVAILABLE.
SO IN THIS DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY SORT OF, UM, TARGETED DIRECTION WE NEED FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS TO FOCUS ON SO THAT WE'RE NOT SHOTGUNNING IT EVERY TIME? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, WE CAN JUST BRING IT BACK UP AND WE CAN, HERE'S OUR IDEA.
UM, OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP YOU, DAVID, AS WE FORMULATE THIS OVER THE NEXT HOWEVER LONG? SO, SO WHAT, WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS GETTING THE BOARD, THE BASELINE IS LIKE MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, SO THAT YOU HAVE HARD NUMBERS TO WORK FROM.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS FROM NOW UNTIL YOUR NEXT MEETING, UH, THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO THAT WE COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A WAY TO MEASURE THIS CORRECTLY YET.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND AS, AS THE FIRST PRIMARY GOAL.
I THINK REVIEWING THE OBJECTIVES, ONCE YOU HAVE THOSE BASELINES, MAYBE YOU WANT TO REWORD SOME OF THESE OBJECTIVES AS, AS THE TYPE OF GOALS THIS COUNCIL IS DISCUSSING RATHER THAN, UM, HOW SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE GENERIC.
UM, AND THEN REWORDING THE KPIS OR REMOVING SOME KPIS THAT WHILE THE MEASUREMENT'S HELPFUL IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PRIORITIES OBJECTIVES, MEANING THE ONE UNDER THE STRATEGIC PILLARS.
HOW ABOUT WE COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND JUST WORK ON, UH, NUMBER ONE AND TWO AND THAT WAY THE FOLLOWING MEETING? WE DO THREE AND FOUR, AND THEN IT SHOULD BE READY TO KIND OF DIG IN ON ADOPT, I'D SAY JUST ONE EACH MEETING.
BUT SINCE WE MEET ONCE A MONTH, I DON'T WANNA MEET SPECIALISTS FOR THIS.
AND, AND WHEN IS THAT NEXT MEETING? JUST SO I KNOW MY, MY DEADLINE.
AND WOULD IT BE HELPFUL AT ALL TO LOOK AT THE, THE PROPOSED KPIS? AND IF THERE'S ANY THAT Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO MONITOR OR MEASURE, THEN WE CAN BEAT THOSE OUT SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING TIME COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TO JUST TELL US YOU DON'T WANT THE INFORMATION
SO IF WE, IF THERE'S ANY, I JUST WANNA GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT WITH OUR, OUR TIME AND DATA COLLECTION.
WELL, I THINK YOUR DATA COLLECTION IS WHAT'S GONNA STEER US ON IF WE WANT IT OR NOT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, AGAIN, TO ME, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VAGUE ENOUGH TO WHERE I COULD SAY SCRAP 'EM ALL ALMOST.
AND THEN I COULD SAY KEEP 'EM ALL, UM, WITH SOME TWEAKING.
BUT IT'S ALL GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON DATA THAT WE HAVE.
I MEAN, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO USE THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE WANT, AND THEN FOR THAT THIRD MEETING, WE HAVE THAT COLLECTED, AND THEN THAT WAY WE'VE PAIRED IT DOWN TO ONLY WHAT WE DO WANT TO, OR IS THAT NOT ENOUGH TIME? I MEAN, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE ORGANIZATION, I THINK SEEING THE DATA, UM, WHILE IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAVIER LIFT FOR STAFF, UH, IS, IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN HELPING YOU DETERMINE, SO I, I, I WOULD STICK WITH MY DEADLINE OF GATHERING AS MUCH DATA AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BEFORE THAT NEXT MEETING.
AND I THINK, AND I'D PUSH ON CHENEY, SO, SORRY.
I'D PUSH ON CHENEY TO COME UP WITH WHAT TYPES OF DATA SHE WANTS TO SHOW.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GOOD JOB, THERE'S THREE PEOPLE THERE, HALF A MILLION IN SALARIES A YEAR, HOW DO THEY WANT TO BE MEASURED AND BY THE PUBLIC? 'CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE GONNA WANT SOME SOFTBALL THINGS, AND THEY'RE GONNA WANT SOME GOALS TO SHOW THAT, HEY, WE NEED MORE TRAINING AND WE NEED MORE INVESTMENT.
BUT I WOULD THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT SOME STUFF SHOWN OUT THERE TOO, TO WHERE LIKE, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE'RE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S THE, THE PROFESSIONALS.
SO WE MAY BE SAYING, WE WANT THIS OVER HERE.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, REALLY, IF YOU DO DO THIS OVER HERE, YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU WANT.
SO, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES, I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, DAVID, IF THEY, IF THERE ARE SOME BEST PRACTICES AVAILABLE
[01:00:01]
TO USE, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A FIRST TIME AN EDC STAFF MEASURES THEIR PERFORMANCE, AND SURELY WE CAN, UH, NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT USE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN USED AND PROVEN IN TIMES PAST.CAN I TAKE THIS REAL QUICK? YEAH.
UM, SO I ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED A STRATEGIC PLANNING COURSE WITH OU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE.
AND WE HAD, I MEAN, DOZENS OF STRATEGIC PLANS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, COUNTIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, KIND OF METRO AREAS, ALL OF THAT.
SOME GOOD EXAMPLES, SOME NOT GOOD EXAMPLES, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LEVERAGE THE ONES THAT WERE THE GOOD EXAMPLES AND GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT WHAT THEIR GOALS LOOKED LIKE, WHAT THINGS THEY WERE MEASURING, THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH THEY WERE MEASURING THOSE THINGS, AND KIND OF WHAT THEY, WHAT TRENDS THEY WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD POINTS OF REFERENCE TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OR, OR THE TYPE OF GOAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OH, NO, MA'AM.
I APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.
UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEMS SIX ONE, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 1 9, APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT OF THE CORPORATION FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON THE ALLIANCE BANK LOAN PAYMENT.
LADIES FIRST
CHRISTINA BISHOP, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO BUDGET AMENDMENTS I'M BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT.
THIS ONE IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM RELATED TO THE ALLIANCE BANK RENEWAL THAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH.
WE WOULD BE INCREASING BANK AND FINANCE CHARGES BY A VERY MODEST AMOUNT.
WE HAD SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE WOULD BE DECREASING YOUR PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS BY ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT INTENDING TO PAY OFF THAT LOAN THIS YEAR.
AND FINALLY, WE BE INCREASING YOUR LOAN INTEREST PAYMENTS BY ABOUT $500,000, UM, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ONE FINAL INTEREST PAYMENT IN NOT FINAL INTEREST PAYMENT, ONE INTEREST PAYMENT IN AUGUST FOR THIS, UH, THIS AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE YOUR BUDGETED FUND BALANCE BY $8 MILLION.
ANY QUESTIONS?
AND SO THE DROP WAS WHAT? WHAT CAUSED THE DROP? OH, SO ORIGINALLY, THE ENTIRE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT WAS EXPECTED TO BE MADE THIS YEAR, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT $12 MILLION.
UM, SO A, THE ENTIRE BALANCE ISN'T DUE THIS YEAR.
AND B UH, THE NEW TERMS OF THE LOAN ONLY REQUIRE 10% OF LAND, UH, PROCEEDS FROM LAND SALES TO BE PUT TOWARDS PRINCIPAL IS OPPOSED TO, I THINK 100%.
AND YOU NEGOTIATED THAT THE DROP I'M GONNA GIVE CHANEY THAT CREDIT.
UH, THAT'S ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE A MOTION
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX TWO.
SORRY, I AM DOING THE SCROLLING THING.
AGENDA ITEM SIX TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 20.
TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET IN SUPPORT OF THE CR 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT.
UH, THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT IS RELATED TO THE COUNTY ROAD 1 37 FM 1660 PROJECT.
LATER IN THIS AGENDA, YOU HAVE A FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND EDC TO FUND THE 1 37 16 60 PROJECT, UH, IT WOULD INCREASE EXPENDITURES BY $11.2 MILLION.
UM, AND THAT, UM, AND THERE WOULD BE A CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN REVENUES OF THE SAME AMOUNT.
IT WOULD BE A NET EFFECT OF ZERO ON YOUR FUND BALANCE.
UH, JUST KIND OF ANOTHER HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
UH, IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS AMENDMENT, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE RELATED AGREEMENTS AND FUNDING, REMAINS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL BEFORE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE.
[01:05:03]
FROM ME? MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PRESENTED.SECOND MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
SECONDED BY SECRETARY GONZALEZ.
BOARD MEMBER PORT OF FILM? AYE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX THREE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FEBRUARY, 2026.
MY FINAL AGENDA ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
UH, YOUR FEBRUARY, 2026 FINANCIAL REPORT WAS IN THE BOARD PACKET.
UM, HIGHLIGHTS, FEBRUARY 28TH.
REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENSES BY $409,000 FOR YOUR FISCAL YEAR.
SO FAR, UH, CURRENT CASH BALANCES ARE $6.7 MILLION, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 1.1 MILLION AVAILABLE IN THE ALLIANCE BANK ESCROW ACCOUNT, WHICH CAN BE DRAWN DOWN BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT IS NEEDED.
UH, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL EVENT IS WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT TWO AGENDA ITEMS AGO WAS THE RENEWAL OF THE ALLIANCE BANK LOAN THAT, UM, INVOLVED A $1 MILLION OUTFLOW FOR YOUR ANNUAL PRINCIPAL PAYMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE RESTRUCTURED THE LOAN.
SO INSTEAD OF MONTHLY INTEREST PAYMENTS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SEMI-ANNUAL PAYMENTS, WHICH ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S DEBT SCHEDULES.
SO THE NEXT PAYMENT FOR INTEREST WILL BE MADE IN AUGUST.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MONTHLY FINANCIALS.
I JUST HAD ONE FOR THE TAX SALES TAX PAYMENT.
WAS THAT, THAT WAS A BIG MISS.
IS THAT, UM, DOES THAT CORRELATE WITH THE CITY SIDE? 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN INFORMATION ON THE CITY SIDE YET, OR IS THAT JUST OUR BUDGET? WE BUMPED IT TOO MUCH.
YEAH, IT DOES CORRELATE WITH THE CITY SIDE, HOWEVER IT DOES.
SO, UM, IT DOES CORRELATE WITH THE CITY SIDE.
ONE THING THAT'S KIND OF COMMINGLED IN YOUR SALES TAX BUDGET THOUGH, IS YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR INCENTIVE PAYMENTS, WHICH, UM, SO THE HU WINE BAR, UH, UH, NQ TWO, THOSE THINGS ALL KIND OF OFFSET YOUR SALES TAX REVENUES.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE NEXT MEETING, LIKE TO BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT SO WE CAN ISOLATE THEM SO YOU CAN SEE MORE CLEARLY WHAT IS ACTUAL GROSS SALES TAX REVENUE VERSUS, UM, THE INCENTIVE PAYMENTS.
AND IN ADDITION, WE CAN BRING BACK A REVISED ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE THINK YOUR SALES TAX REVENUE SHOULD BE AFTER THIS MID-YEAR.
OH, SO THE NUMBERS WE SEE AS ACTUAL, THAT'S, THAT'S NET THAT'S NOT THE GROSS SALES TAX? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
OH, I DON'T THINK I EVER KNEW THAT.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE HOW WE DO ON THE CITY SIDE.
WE'LL BRING THAT BACK NEXT MEETING.
SO IT'S DOWN 15% BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE HAD A PAYMENT THAT CAME OUT.
MOTION TO APPROVE FUTURE AMENDMENT.
MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, FINANCIAL REPORT.
ANY MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MORALES.
SECONDED BY SECRETARY GONZALEZ.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX FOUR.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 12.
TO APPROVE FUNDING OF THE CITY OF HA'S FACADE GRANT INCENTIVE PROGRAM USING THE APPROVED FUNDS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET IN THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT LINE ITEM.
SO THIS ITEM IS COMING BACK TO Y'ALL.
Y'ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY, UH, CONSIDERED THIS ITEM PRIOR TO THE UPDATED DOWNTOWN INCENTIVE ORDINANCE AND CORRESPONDING PROGRAMS POLICY AND, UH, APPLICATION DOCUMENTS.
UH, AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD CHOSE TO POSTPONE UNTIL AFTER THE CITY HAD APPROVED THAT PROGRAM THAT HAPPENED.
AND SO NOW THIS IS BACK FOR Y'ALL.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS APPROVED IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR FACADE IMPROVEMENT.
GRANT, I WOULD LIKE TO STIPULATE THAT THOSE FUNDS BE USED ONLY FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS, NOT RESIDENTIAL, AS I FEEL THAT MORE ALIGNS WITH THE INTENT AND THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CORPORATION AS WELL TO SUPPORT COMMERCIAL PROJECTS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.
THAT IS THE CURRENT WORDING OF
[01:10:01]
THE RESOLUTION.SO IF YOU PASS IT AS IT STANDS NOW, IT SPECIFIES THAT IT CAN ONLY BE APPLIED TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
SO IF YOU WANT IT TO APPLY MORE BROADLY THAN THAT, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN AMEND THE RESOLUTION.
I THINK FOR US, IT NEEDS TO BE STICK TO COMMERCIAL.
BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOT THAT I DON'T WANNA HELP SOMEONE IN A HOUSE THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT OCCUR, I DON'T THINK, BY A HOME.
IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WITH SPECIFIC FINDINGS BY THE BOARD.
WHAT IT'S MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026.
SECOND, YOU HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD SECONDED BY SECONDARY GONZALEZ.
CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX FIVE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 13 TO APPROVE THE PECAN STREET DESIGN AS A PROJECT TO BE WHOLLY MANAGED BY THE ATO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, HEDC.
UH, SO PREVIOUSLY THIS CORPORATION APPROVED A $500,000 BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH WAS ALSO THEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DESIGN OF PECAN STREET IMPROVEMENT.
UH, AT THE TIME, THE CORPORATION ALSO INCLUDED TWO SEGMENTS, TWO ADDITIONAL SEGMENTS OF ROAD TO HAVE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, UM, INCLUDED.
AND THAT WAS MAIN STREET AND WEST STREET BETWEEN HIGHWAY 79 AND PECAN.
UM, WE RECENTLY WALKED THAT PROJECT WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DOWNTOWN TITLE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION JUST TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT REALLY ENTAILS.
UH, GET SOME IDEAS ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL EFFICIENCIES TO BE CREATED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS THAT BECAUSE WE ADDED THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL SEGMENTS AND BECAUSE OF THE, UH, LARGE AMOUNT OF UTILITY RELOCATES THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR PECAN STREET, UH, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT TO ONLY RUN FROM, FOR PECAN STREET.
FROM WEST TO 1660, THE CURRENT PROJECT AS IT STANDS, IS FROM WEST STREET ALL THE WAY OVER TO COLLEGE STREET FOR PECAN MM-HMM
UH, SO THAT'S A PRETTY HEFTY SEGMENT OF ROAD.
AND THEN ADDING IN THE, THE TWO ADDITIONAL SEGMENTS, UH, ON MAIN AND WEST.
SO THAT WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE OTHER PART IS TO HAVE IT WHOLLY MANAGED BY THE EDC.
SO AT PRESENT, THIS IS NOT REALLY ON THE CITY'S RADAR AS, UH, A PROJECT IN OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, UH, ONE GOAL THAT WE, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE, UH, SEEK TO HAVE DESIGN COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
AND THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE THE CORPORATION EFFECTIVELY BID OUT THE PROJECT, AWARD IT, AND GET IT GOING.
SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST PART YOU SAID ABOUT THE, THE, THE AREA? FROM WHERE TO WHERE? TO WHERE TO WHERE? SURE.
SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE PECAN STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WAS TO RUN FROM WEST STREET ALL THE WAY TO COLLEGE STREET.
WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT IT STOPPED AT 1660 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE MAIN STREET AND WEST STREET.
OH, IT WAS GOING YOU'RE FURTHER EAST.
YOU'RE SAYING, SO YOU'RE REDUCING THE EAST WEST TRAVEL WEST, UH, EAST OF 1660 NORTH, BUT YOU'RE ADDING ON THE WEST AND MAIN NORTHBOUND ISSUES.
SO, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A TRADE OFF THAT'LL BE STILL WITHIN THE 500 K.
THE ENGINEERING FIRM FELT LIKE THAT WAS MORE ACHIEVABLE AND THEY HAD IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER COST SAVINGS WITH RELOCATING, UH, CERTAIN POLES DOWNTOWN, UH, ELECTRIC POLES TO RELOCATE SOME OF THE, THE CURRENT UTILITIES UTIL TRANSMISSION LINES TO WEST MAIN.
I DON'T MIND, THE ONLY THING I'D SUGGEST IS WHEN IT SAYS WE'RE PROPOSING A PROCESS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS USED FOR THE MEGASITE SPINE ROAD
IT'S LIKE WE WANT TO, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
THAT PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS, UH, COMPLETED PROJECTS,
YEAH, BUT I DO LIKE THE HCDC WHOLLY.
'CAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT, WHAT I WANT TO FIGURE OUT IS, IS WHERE ARE THE DELAYS HAPPENING AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? AND IF IT'S WHOLLY WITH THE EDC, IT'S TRAINING ON YOUR PART, OR THIS ISN'T WORKING, IF IT'S EDC IN THE CITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA SAY,
[01:15:01]
WELL, THE CITY'S THE ONE THAT HELD US UP, AND THE CITY'S GONNA GO, NO, IT WAS THOSE GUYS.AND SO THEN WE END UP WITH A PROJECT THAT MISSES DEADLINES.
AND SO TO ME, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IT ON, YOU TAKE IT ON COMPLETELY.
UM, I THINK, UH, GEORGE AND AUDREY SHOWED THAT, UM, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE, THE, UM, THE PROLOGIS DEAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BUCKLED DOWN, WE GOT SOMETHING OUT.
SO WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT WHENEVER WE NEED TO.
UM, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I WOULD LIKE US TO KIND OF, WHEN WE'RE KICKING OFF THE DESIGN, THAT'S THE NEXT MEETING IS WHEN WE ACTUALLY HIRE THE ENGINEER.
I'D LIKE US TO THEN KIND OF GO, WHAT ARE WE ENVISIONING FOR THIS? BECAUSE LIKE MY ENVISION OF MAINE AND WEST IS TO LOOK IDENTICAL TO EAST STREET WHERE IT'S WIDER SIDEWALKS, ANGLED PARKING ON BOTH SIDES ALL THE WAY UP.
AND AS LONG AS WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT AND THEY GET THAT.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING ON THE CITY SIDE IS I KID YOU NOT, WE APPROVE A BID WITH SOME PICTURES AND WE THINK THAT'S IT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NINE MONTHS LATER, AND WE'VE GOT TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PICTURE THAT WE'RE BEING NOW THAT WE'RE BIDDING OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE BID OUT FOR DESIGN.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS IN A MEETING AND I'M LIKE, MAN, AT SOME POINT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING ON EDC SIDE IS WE CAN SIT THERE AND GO, WE WANT PLAN A, WE GET PLAN A, WE BUILD PLAN A, AND WE DID IT FASTER THAN THE OTHER REST OF THE ORGANIZATION.
'CAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE ALSO HAVING ON A CITY IS OUR ENGINEER.
WE HAVE A NEW ENGINEER HAS TOLD US, I GUESS LACK OF BETTER TERM, UH, STAFF CREEP COUNCIL APPROVES THE PROJECT AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE START MAKING CHANGES OUTSIDE OF THAT.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A PROJECT COME BEFORE US THAT I THINK IS ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEHIND.
AND IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
AND THEY ATTRIBUTE IT TO STAFF CREEP WITH HERE WE CAN JUST TELL CHENEY, WE GOT ONE STAFF MEMBER, NO CREEP.
AND WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY ENGINEER WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT'S REALLY NOT YOUR PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO CONTROL TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE VARIABLES ARE, BUT MM-HMM
SO A QUESTION IN THIS RESOLUTION, DO WE NEED TO, FOR, FOR A MOTION, DO, WOULD WE NEED TO ADD THAT SCOPE AREA IN WITH THIS RESOLUTION? OR IS IT, I'M READING IT.
I DON'T SEE IT LIKE, CALLED OUT NECESSARILY.
YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF LIKE PARKING AND ALL THAT? WELL, THE PARKING, BUT ALSO THE NOT GOING DOWN SCOPE TO NOT GOING DOWN TO COLLEGE, STOPPING AT 1660.
ADDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE WIDENING OF THE STREETS.
IF I WOULD APPRECIATE IN THE MOTION LANGUAGE AND THEN WE CAN MM-HMM
MAKE THAT QUICK UPDATE TO THE RESOLUTION.
THE, THE SCOPE WAS ALREADY CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WHEN YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY APPROVED THE $500.
THAT OLD, THE $500,000, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDED THOSE TWO SEGMENTS MM-HMM.
SO NOW ALL WE NEED IS THE, THE CHANGE IN THE SCOPE TO TRUNCATED TO STOP AT 16.
YOU SAID THAT YOU WALKED IT WITH, UH, AN ENGINEER.
WHAT ENGINEER FIRM DID YOU USE? WE HAD HALF ASSOCIATES WITH US.
THEY WERE, UM, PART OF THE HEART OF HUDDLE SERIES.
SO THEY'VE KIND OF BEEN ALONG FOR THE, THE DURATION.
SO WE FELT THEY HAD THE BEST PERSPECTIVE BASED ON WHAT WAS SHARED WITH, WITH THEM IN THOSE MEETINGS AND FROM THE DHBA AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO WE FELT LIKE THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST INSIGHT IN THOSE EXPERIENCE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE READY MM-HMM
BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR SOMEONE IN THREE MONTHS TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAD SOME TURNOVER AND THEY GOT SOME ISSUES AND IT'S GONNA BE LIKE MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.
NO, I, I, UH, I PRIMED THE PUMP WITH THE TIMELINE THAT WE WERE EXPECTING, AND THEY SAID THAT IF THE EBC COULD WHOLLY MANAGE IT AND IT, IT COULD TRUNCATE SOME OF THE, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT THEY FELT THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY TURN IT AROUND BY THAT YEAR.
BECAUSE THIS SAYS GOAL OF DESIGN END, UH, COMPLETING DESIGN PHASE BY THE END OF 2026.
WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 S 0 1 3.
AND YOU'RE SAYING AS PRESENTED THAT THAT COVERS NOT GOING EAST OF, UH, 1616.
I NEED, SO NO, YOU NEED SAY THAT.
SO YOU NEED TO SAY THAT ON THE WIDENING REDUCE PE CON STREET SCOPE FROM WEST STREET TO 1660 NORTH.
THAT AND THEN I, AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAIN AND WEST TO BE PARKING IN BOTH SIDES.
SIDEWALKS TO RESEMBLE E STREET ALL THE WAY TO PECAN.
ALL THE WAY TO PECAN AND PECAN THE SAME.
CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? SO I, YEAH.
SO, SO THE RESOLUTION REDUCE PECAN, SO THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED IN REDUCING THE SCOPE ON FOR
[01:20:01]
PECAN TO ONLY GO FROM WEST TO 1660 NORTH 1660 NORTH.AND THEN TO HAVE, UH, PECAN WEST AND MAINE ALL TO HAVE SIDEWALKS AND, UM, ANGLED PARKING ON EACH SIDE TO RESEMBLE THE SAME AS E STREET SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX SIX, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION AND RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO FOUR TO APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CORPORATION AND THE CITY OF HU HURO.
SO THIS IS A MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
THIS WAS TO, UH, RATIFY THAT DOCUMENT TO BE IN PLACE, UH, TO EFFECTIVELY EXIST WHERE IT DID NOT BETWEEN WHEN THE, THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT EXPIRED AND THIS NEW ONE TOOK PLACE.
SO THE APPROPRIATE, UM, FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS AND PAYMENTS BETWEEN THE DC AND THE CITY HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE IN ADHERENCE WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, CONTRACT, WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME AS THE CURRENT ONE AS FAR AS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO THIS IS REALLY JUST TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BACKTRACK THIS TO THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 1 4.
MOTION PRESENTED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 15 TO APPROVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CORPORATION.
SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE PRESENTATION AND FEEDBACK EARLIER, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD PATH FORWARD.
SO I RECOMMEND POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM UNTIL, I GUESS THE FIRST CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THE APRIL MEETING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BREAK UP INTO TWO.
SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT WOULD BE THE MAIN MEETING THAT THIS WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AS A, AS A RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL.
WELL, DO WE NEED TO, DO WE HAVE TO MOTION THAT ONE OR IS IT GOOD? DO YOU'RE JUST TAKING THE ACTION ON IT, SO, NO, IT'S FINE.
NO ACTION ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX SEVEN.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THEIR QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 8TH, 2026.
THE REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026, AND THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026.
SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY SECRETARY GONZALEZ.
HEARING NONE, CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX NINE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 16 TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THIS COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT AND TO AWARD TO CAPITAL EXCAVATION LLC PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CORRESPONDING FUNDING AGREEMENT BY THE CORPORATION AND CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY, SO THIS IS THE SECOND OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE EDC.
UH, THE CONTRACT WAS PROVIDED IN THE TEAMS, UH, FOLDERS FOR Y'ALL.
UM, THOSE CONTRACTS FOR EDC ARE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY EXECUTED.
SO, UM, WE CAN TAKE ACTION PUBLICLY OR YOU CAN PULL IT INTO EXEC IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER OR HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT ANY SPECIFICS IN THE CONTRACT.
SO HOW DO WE GET TO THE TEAMS? I DIDN'T, I, THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS WAS I DIDN'T SEE THE CONTRACT.
OKAY, SO IN YOUR TEAMS, YOU IN YOUR CHANNELS, YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE THAT SAYS HEE WORD FILES.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE A TEAMS THING ON HERE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT ON WHERE IT SAYS ONEDRIVE, I GOING TO TEAMS
[01:25:01]
AND THERE'S A ONEDRIVE A TEAMS APP ON THEIR RIGHT.CHAT CALENDAR CALLS, ONEDRIVE.
YEAH, I DON'T GET INTO THAT ONE EITHER.
SO HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I HOPE SO ONE DAY I JUST HOPE I CAN JUST CLICK A BUTTON AND GET TO IT.
'CAUSE WHEN I HAVE TO GO FIND STUFF, I REMEMBER THIS.
THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM, LIKE SOME OF US HAVE ON COUNCIL IS BETWEEN OUR PASSWORDS CHANGING AND ACCESS ISSUES INTO THESE THINGS, GO BOTTOM LEFT.
NOW CLICK ON, CLICK ON SHARED.
THIS IS, IT SHOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON SHAREPOINT IF NAVIGATING SHAREPOINT IS EASIER FOR ANY OF YOU.
SO IS IT UNDER HED BOARD GOVERNANCE, BOARD MEETINGS, FINANCE AND COMPLIANCE, OR REAL ESTATE AND PROJECTS? IT WOULD BE UNDER YOUR BOARD MEETINGS.
SEE, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT'D BE A REAL ESTATE PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, BUT YOU'RE, SO THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE IS IT'S IN YOUR MEETING BECAUSE IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION AT A MEETING, AND THEN ONCE APPROVED, THAT CONTRACT WILL MOVE TO A PROJECT NAME.
SO THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE FILES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN THAT PROJECT FOLDER.
SO WE WILL HAVE A FOLDER ON THERE THAT P-D-C-C-I-P PROJECT, AND YOU CAN GO IN AND FIND EVERY, EVERY DOCUMENT RELATED EACH OF THOSE.
OH, IT'S UNDER CONFIDENTIAL, BUT WHEN IT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR APPROVAL OR ACTION, IT WILL BE IN YOUR, YOUR BOARD MEETING FOLDER.
SO THIS OPENS UP INTO A PDF FILE WITHIN TEAMS, BUT NOT IN OUR REGULAR PDF.
I SEE A, IT'S A 10 PAGE DOCUMENT AND I SEE THE COST OF ITEMS. I SEE SOME PLANS.
DO YOU WANNA JUST PULL IT INTO EXEC AND I CAN PRINT IT FOR YOU GUYS? SURE.
WELL, SOMETHING, BECAUSE I GOTTA SEE LIKE HOW LONG ARE THEY SAYING IT'S GONNA TAKE? WHEN'S THE SUCKER GONNA START? UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE ARE GETTING IS I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ON A CITY PROJECT AS I SEE WHAT THE, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE
SO IF YOU'D LIKE, THEN MAYBE WE JUST PULL THIS INTO THAT SINCE THE PENDING CONTRACT.
AND I'LL JUST PRINT COPIES FOR YOU GUYS AND WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THE CONSTRUCTION AND, AND SEE THIS TO ME, I MEAN THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S A PDF FILE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE PDF TOOLS OF PRINTING OR SAVING OR ADDING NOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF I WAS USING MY, I BELIEVE IT'S SET UP AS A VIEW ONLY.
BUT I MEAN, IF IT WAS IN A FILE DIRECTORY, UM, LIKE YOU'VE SET UP, UM, FILE DIRECTORIES FOR EDC SPECIFIC MEETINGS AND THERE'S PRESENTATIONS, THERE'S ITEMS, AND THEN THERE'S LEGAL OR CONFIDENTIAL, THEN I CAN JUST CLICK ON THAT AND THAT'S, I'M NOW IN A ADOBE ACROBAT READER, SO I CAN DO WHATEVER.
AND I CAN'T DO THAT NOW WAY IT'S SET UP JUST FYI.
SO WE WERE DOING THAT BEFORE AND THEN WE SWITCHED TO THE AGENDA PACKET STYLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
WITH THE TEAMS CHANNEL SET UP FOR THE FILE.
I JUST WANT POSITORY I, THE PNZ AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND EDC BE ON THE SAME FORMAT RIGHT NOW.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS WORKED FOR YEARS.
I JUST WANT 'EM TO BE THE SAME.
I GUESS THE, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS.
AND SO, I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN SEND OUT A LEGAL MEMO FOR EACH OF THOSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD, I I THINK WE'RE OVERTHINKING IT.
YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN SEND IT OUT AND IT CAN, WE KNOW IT'S CONFIDENTIAL AND THERE'S, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT OCCURS IF YOU BREAK THAT.
IF I WANTED TO TAKE THIS AND YOU COULD PUT READ ONLY, I'LL TAKE A SCREENSHOT OF IT 10 TIMES AND NOW I'VE GOT THE EXACT ITEM YOU'RE TRYING TO STOP ME FROM GETTING.
SO I THINK IF THERE'S ONE OF US YOU DON'T TRUST, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT MEETING AND KICK THE PERSON OFF THE BOARD OR GET 'EM OUT OFFICE.
WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR US TO GET, I'M KIND OF WITH JIM ON THIS.
WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR US TO GET IT DONE, WE JUST GOTTA GET IT DONE.
AND IF SOMEONE BREAKS THE LAW, THEN LOOK AT THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE STUFF WE CALL CONFIDENTIAL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS THAT CONFIDENTIAL.
I MEAN, GEORGE IS GONNA SLAP ME, BUT THE GUY GAVE SOME PRICING ON CONCRETE AND REBAR AND SO I'M SURE THERE'S SOME KIND OF REASON WHY THAT WOULD BE CONFIDENTIAL TODAY.
UM, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S SO CONFIDENTIAL THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY THAT JIM MORRIS MAY GET THAT AND THEN GO OUT TO HOME DEPOT AND TYPE START PRICE SHOPPING REBAR.
BUT THE ONLY THING I I I'M WONDERING ON IS, SO DID WE, I I I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PROCESS.
[01:30:01]
WE BID THIS OUT OR WAS IT JUST WE SELECTED THESE PEOPLE? UH, THIS FOLLOWED THE CITY PROCUREMENT PROCESS.THIS PROJECT WAS ALSO ALREADY OUT TO BID BY THE TIME IT WAS ASSIGNED TO THE EDC.
SO IT HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH BID AND THE BID OPENING, VALUATION NEGOTIATION, EVERYTHING, UH, HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED ON THE CITY SIDE.
SO IT WAS SELECTED BASED ON THE, THE NEW PROCESS WE'RE WORKING ON.
THE, THE BEST VALUE, I BELIEVE IS THE TERM.
SO NOT THE CHEAPEST OR THE CORRECT.
THE ONE THAT, AND THIS IS, HAVE WE, GEORGE, HAVE WE FIGURED OUT AND COME TO ALIGNMENT ON THE, THE AGREEMENTS TO WHERE WE HAVE THE TEETH WE NEED IN THIS? OR ARE WE STILL WAITING FOR CHAPMAN AND THOSE GUYS TO, I THINK THIS IS DONE.
I JUST DON'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY KIND OF MEMO ON WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, BUT, UM, OKAY.
FOR ME, IF WE CAN JUST KIND OF GLANCE, AT LEAST WE KNOW LIKE IS THIS A 24 MONTH PROJECT OR IS THIS LIKE A, GONNA BE KNOCKED OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR? SO I DO HAVE THOSE DATES IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THE WHOLE, 'CAUSE WE JUST IRONED THAT OUT.
'CAUSE FOR ME, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME TO VOTE ON A CONTRACT I'VE NEVER SEEN AND NEVER EVEN OPENED UP, MAN, THAT WOULD BE A BREAKING IN SOME SERIOUS, UH, THINGS OF MINE.
I MAY NOT READ ALL 60 PAGES, BUT UNDERSTOOD.
I THOUGHT THE DOCUMENT THAT I LOADED IN THERE WAS THE FULL CONTRACT, NOT JUST THEIR UPDATED OFFER.
SO I'M HAPPY TO PRINT THOSE AND WE CAN PULL THAT INTO EXEC SO YOU GUYS CAN CONVERT.
SO WE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM, IS THAT YEAH, CORRECT.
WE HAVE TO SAY, SO WE'RE PULLING IN THE EXEC.
WE'LL BE PULLING, UM, AGENDA ITEM SIX NINE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SIX NINE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION THIS TIME.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX POINT 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 1 7 TO APPROVE A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HU FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660.
PROJECT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING THIS UP AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, AFTER THE CONTRACT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.
GROUPING THIS INTO EXECUTIVE AS WELL.
ON AGENDA ITEM SIX 10, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX 11, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 20 26 18 TO APPROVE A PROCEDURE MANUAL IN SUPPORT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ASSIGNED TO THE HUDU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, HEDC FROM THE CITY OF HUDU.
SO THIS WAS SENT OUT AND I DID SEND AN EMAIL TODAY, I BELIEVE IN MY A IR, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, WAS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL INPUT AND COMMENTS FROM EDC LEGAL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THOSE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE ANY THEY WOULD LIKE INTO THE PROPOSED MANUAL SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THAT.
SO NOT TECHNICALLY APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
IT WOULD BE APPROVED AS OR, UH, WITH THE CHANGES INCORPORATED AS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
YEAH, THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS A FEW, I MEAN, HONESTLY I MADE, I MADE A BUNCH OF CHANGES THROUGHOUT, BUT THEY WERE KIND OF FOLLOWING A FEW SIMPLE, UH, STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
ONE WAS THAT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS THAT THIS MANUAL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR CITY PROJECTS AND THEN PROJECTS OF THE CITY DELEGATES FOR ADMINISTRATION OVER TO HDC, NOT HDCS OWN INDIVIDUAL, PERSONALLY FUNDED TOTALLY SEPARATE PROJECTS.
UM, AND THE MANUAL WAS SORT OF PARTIALLY DRAFTED WITH THAT WORDING AND THEN ALSO REFERENCED HEDC FUNDED PROJECTS.
AND SO I MADE EDITS THAT MADE IT CONSISTENT WITH MY UNDERSTANDING, WHICH WAS TO REMOVE REFERENCE TO SOLELY PROJECTS SOLELY FUNDED BY HEDC AND THEN CLARIFY THAT IT WAS FOR A CITY OF HU PROJECTS.
AND THEN WHAT I COINED, UM, JOINT CIP PROJECTS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF VARIATION IN WORDING ABOUT REFERENCING THOSE PROJECTS.
AND SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER.
I HAVE A WHOLE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO JANIE, UM, ON THIS ONE AND THAT WAS SENT.
SO THEY HAVE THE, THE COMMENTS, I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE WHOLE THING.
UM, OKAY, SO I PUT IN ONE THING IS THAT THE MANUAL DOES PROVIDE, UM, SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF.
[01:35:01]
AND I'M, I WASN'T TRYING TO STOP THAT 'CAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT YOU GUYS WANNA FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS.UM, HOWEVER, THE HEDC IS A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION.
AND SO I JUST PUT, UH, REQUIREMENT IN THAT AND, AND MADE A PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE FUNDING AGREEMENTS AS WELL TO SAY THAT IN THAT AGREEMENT, THIS, THE HUDC WILL SPECIFICALLY DELEGATE THAT AUTHORITY.
UM, AND THEN IN THE MANUAL IT JUST SAYS, HEY, ALL OF THIS IS CONDITIONED ON THE FACT THAT THAT DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY OCCURRED.
UM, BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN JUST DELEGATING TO AN EMPLOYEE WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION.
THE HEDC AS AN ORGANIZATION IS DELEGATING ITS DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY TO AN EMPLOYEE OF A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION.
UM, SO IT'S STILL THERE, IT'S JUST A KIND OF A TWO STEP PROCESS NOW TO PROVIDE CLARITY.
UM, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA ADOPT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS MANUAL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LONG AND KIND OF CONVOLUTED, AND I FELT LIKE IT WASN'T LEGALLY CLEAR ENOUGH.
SO IT'S JUST ONE PARAGRAPH IN THE FUNDING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS IN THE TEMPLATE, AND THEN THE MANUAL SAYS, HEY, AS LONG AS THIS IS DONE, THIS APPLIES.
UM, I INCORPORATED A A BIT MORE REFERENCE TO JUST MAKING SURE THAT CHENEY WAS KEPT INFORMED.
SO JUST A FEW THINGS THAT SAY, HEY, MAKE SURE, UH, NOT CHANGING THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY FOR ANYBODY OR THE PROCESS, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, THERE'S A COUPLE PLACES WHERE I THOUGHT THAT THE, IT WAS DEFINITELY POSSIBLE THAT THE BOARD MIGHT NOT BE KEPT AS UP TO DATE AS THE CITY ABOUT PROGRESS AND THAT THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO BE KEPT UP, UP TO DATE, UM, AND BE ABLE TO SPOT YOUR OWN RED FLAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HAVE INPUT.
SO I JUST ADDED SOME THINGS TO SAY, HEY, NOTIFY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THESE POINTS.
ALSO, UM, DO, DO, DO, OH, AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER, UH, THING THAT BUGGED ME.
THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S REFERENCE TO THE FUNDING AGREEMENTS AND SOMETIMES THEY JUST HAD DIFFERENT NAMES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.
IN SOME PARTS IT'S CALLED THE JOINT RESOLUTION.
AND IT WOULD SAY THE JOINT RESOLUTION CAN ALSO BE CALLED THE A PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENT.
AND IT CAN ALSO BE CALLED THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
BUT THEN THERE WAS OTHER SECTIONS THAT REFERENCED THE PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENT AS IF IT WAS A SEPARATE THING THAN THE JOINT RESOLUTION.
BUT THEN THERE WAS ONLY ONE KIND OF FUNDING AGREEMENT IN THE WORKFLOW.
SO ALL I DID WAS MAKE THE PROPOSAL THAT WE JUST CALL THE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE SAKE OF THE MANUAL.
A PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENT, YOU CAN CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT OUTSIDE OF THE MANUAL.
FOR THE MANUAL, IT IS CALLED A PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENT.
AND I USED THAT TERM THROUGHOUT.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RESOLUTIONS THAT NEED TO BE PASSED AS PART OF THE FUNDING PROCESS, THEY ARE REFERENCED, THEY CAN BE REFERENCED SEPARATELY.
SO THAT WAS ME JUST CONCERNED HONESTLY THAT IT WAS UNCLEAR.
AND IN FACT, AT THE END IN THE EXHIBITS, THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN EXHIBIT THAT OUTLINED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JOINT RESOLUTION FOR FUNDING AND THEN A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENTS.
AND SO I PROPOSED THAT THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND PIECED TOGETHER FOR WHAT IS ACTUALLY INTENDED, UM, AND THEN HAVE ONE OF THOSE REMOVED.
UM, AGAIN, NOT CHANGING THE PROCESS, ACTUALLY JUST CLARIFYING THE WORDING.
AND THEN THERE WAS A FEW OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE UNNECESSARY THAT I JUST MADE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT.
HEY, THIS COULD BE CLEAR IF YOU WORD IT THIS WAY.
SO YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, DUPLICATED PROVISIONS, UNUSUAL ABBREVIATIONS DEFINITION MM-HMM
YEAH, THAT WAS GONNA SAYING A LOT OF THE, OKAY, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME COMMENTS AND THINGS IN THERE.
I DIDN'T PUT EVERY SINGLE PROPOSED CHANGE IN THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA GO BACK AND BE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL EDITS.
SO I PUT SOMETIMES JUST COMMENTS TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS, THIS IS HOW I, OKAY.
I PROPOSE IT'LL BE CLEAR FOR YOU IT THIS WAY, BUT I WAS TOLD TO LIMIT IT TO WHAT I THOUGHT WAS LEGALLY MOST RELEVANT, WHICH IS WHY SUMMER, JUST COMMENTS.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE CITY MANAGER PUT TOGETHER ON HIS OWN, AND I DON'T THINK IT, IT HAD LEGALIZED ON IT YET.
IS THAT RIGHT? HAS HE, HAS HE SEEN THE CHANGES THE DIRECTION
UH, THE DIRECTION WE HAD WAS TO TAKE THAT DRAFT AND HAVE EDC LEGAL REVIEW IT FOR THE LEGAL CHANGES.
HE HAS NOT SEEN THOSE, THOSE LEGAL WELL, NO, HE HAS NOT SEEN THOSE.
A CM HAS SEEN THEM AS PART OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE BOARD.
I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH HIM ON THE CHANGES.
WELL, I MEAN, I, THERE, I I'M WITH YOU ON A LOT OF THIS.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE CHANGING ANYTHING.
CLEANING IT UP, BEARING UP STUFF UP, SOME STUFF, AND HE, IT COULD BE RELEVANT HONESTLY, AT, IN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LATER.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT MATTER AND COULD, COULD WEIGH DOWN IN LAWSUITS AND JUST REMOVING SAMANTHA AMBIGUITY AND YEAH.
THESE ARE LEGALLY RELEVANT, EVEN THOUGH THEY SOUND, A LOT OF 'EM SOUND JUST LIKE DRAFTING, AND HE DIDN'T HAVE,
[01:40:01]
HE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT BEFORE.I, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE, WE SAY LIKE WE'RE OKAY WITH IT PENDING HIS APPROVAL, BUT WE KIND OF GIVE A MESSAGE LIKE, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING FOR SOME REASON YOU WANNA NAME A PROJECT FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS, LET'S STICK TO WHAT MAKES SENSE FROM A LEGAL ASPECT ON OUR SIDE.
AND, AND BARRING THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S GONNA HAVE, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING HE WOULD HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CITY LEGAL WOULD ALSO NEED TO APPROVE, SINCE THIS IS A JOINT PROCESS MM-HMM
THE EDC AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO APPROVE, UM, TOGETHER WHAT THIS PROCESS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THE EDC WOULD APPROVE IT, BUT THEN IT ALSO REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL BEFORE IT WOULD BECOME ACTIVE.
SO CITY ATTORNEY WOULD'VE TO REVIEW IT AS WELL.
AND I WOULD EXPECT CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW IT DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
SO ARE WE JUST APPROVING THE CHANGES MADE THUS FAR AND THEN MOVING IT TO THE NEXT PERSON DOWN THE LINE? IS THAT, YEAH, I THINK, UM, APPROVING IT WITH WHATEVER CHANGES YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE, AND THEN IT WILL JUST MOVE ON IN THE PROCESS.
AND IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.
UM, FOR JOINT CONCURRENCE, WERE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WE, WITH THE PROPOSALS OF LEGAL SUBJECT TO CITY MANAGER? SO LEGAL AND JAMES, RIGHT? YEAH.
I JUST SAY, SO THE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO SAY THIS.
ACCEPT THE, I'M NOT STATING IT NOW, BUT JUST SPITBALLING HERE, UH, APPROVE THE PROCEDURE MANUAL AS PRESENTED TODAY, GOING, BUT, AND THEN GOING FORWARD WITH, UH, EDC, LEGAL AND CITY MANAGER AND COME BACK WITH THOSE UPDATES.
AND CITY LEGAL WOULD SAY AS APPROVED BY LE I MEAN AS MODIFIED BY LEGAL, AND THEN WE COULD PUT IN WITH SUBSEQUENT AMENDED AND REVIEWED BY CITY MANAGER AND REVIEWED.
WE COULD SEE AS A MODIFIED BY HGDC LEGAL AND THEN ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY CITY LEGAL.
BUT CITY LEGAL, HOW ABOUT THIS? LOOK AT IT ANYWAY, HOW ABOUT THIS? WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ANYWAY.
HOW ABOUT I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE JUST SHARE THIS WITH THOSE TWO GROUPS.
AND WHEN THE THREE OF YOU, WHEN THE THREE GROUPS ALL COME TOGETHER, WE COME BACK TO APPROVE IT.
YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT, HUH? I MEAN, YOU CAN, BUT YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
COULD WE HELP EXPEDITE THAT THOUGH A LITTLE BIT? BECAUSE WHAT I, WHAT I'M TYING TO, TO MITIGATE IS PUSHING THIS OUT FURTHER BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
UM, SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO APPROVING WITH THE PROPOSED LEGAL CHANGES? UH, PENDING APPROVAL BY CITY LEGAL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL? OH, NO.
'CAUSE I, IT ONLY GOES TO ONE MORE MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE WE SEND IT TO THEM AND THEY GO, YEP, THAT'S GOOD.
I SEE A WORLD WHERE IT'S DOTTY'S GONNA KICK AROUND.
AND I WOULD SAY, IF YOU WANNA SPEED IT UP, WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE SENT IT TO THEM TO GET COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
AND THEN WE COULD AT LEAST HAD DOWN TO THE LAST COUPLE THINGS.
BUT THE, THE ONLY CAVEAT THAT IF THERE WERE MATERIAL CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT, NOT JUST SOME, SOME LEGALESE OR SOMETHING, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY.
YEAH, IT WOULD, IT JUST, WHEN I GET DEPOSED ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE AND THEY THROW THIS IN MY FACE AND GO, DID YOU, UH, DID YOU READ THIS BEFORE YOU VOTED ON IT? I WANNA BE TO SAY YES INSTEAD OF, WELL, I READ A VERSION OF ONE THAT THREE DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS AND THE CITY MANAGER MADE SOME CHANGES, BUT THEY WEREN'T MATERIAL.
UM, I'M A LITTLE GUN SHY FOR SOME REASON.
NO, I DON'T WANNA PO I MEAN, I, TO ME, I I, I'M OKAY WITH WHAT YOU, WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF VOTE FOR US TO LIKE, LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW THAT BASED ON THE MAKEUP OF THIS BOARD WE'RE COMFORTABLE.
UM, THAT'S, I MEAN, EFFECTIVELY YOU'D BE APPROVING WITH THE APPROVING IT AT THE BOARD LEVEL WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES BY EDC, LEGAL AND IT STILL HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL.
SO IF THEY MAKE MORE CHANGES, IT WOULD COME BACK.
IF THEY DON'T MAKE MORE CHANGES THAN ACCEPT IT, THAN IT'S DONE.
SO THERE'S NO CHANCE OF THEM MAKING CHANGES AND IT NOT COMING BACK TO US, RIGHT.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FIREPOWER WHEN, LIKE I SAID, THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD HAS GOT ONE WAY.
IT'S LIKE, IS IT, IS THIS WORTH A CHANGE? BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH? IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN I'LL SPEND THE LEGAL DOLLARS IF IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.
SO I GUESS THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE TO, TO APPROVE THIS IS PRESENTED AND TO SEND IT TO THE, UH, WITH THE, YEAH, WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, THE RED LINE PROPOSED CHANGES AND SEND IT OFF TO THE CITY.
SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
[01:45:01]
KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE HERE, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON SOME OF THESE WHERE IT SHOWS SIGNATURE FOR KAITLYN AND I I NOTICED THAT MY NAME IS MISS MISSPELLED.I I HAVE TO FIX IT TO HAVE THE Z BUT IT'S NOT JUST YOUR DOCUMENT, IT'S OTHERS.
SO THROUGHOUT THE 165 PAGES, SOME ARE SPELT CORRECTLY AND SOME ARE NOT.
SO I JUST WANT TO STATE IT AGAIN THAT MAYBE THEY CAN DO A WORD SEARCH AND CHANGE.
THAT IS IT, IS THIS THE CORRECT SPELLING RIGHT HERE? YES.
THEY'RE GETTING, IT'S NOT WITH AN S IT DOESN'T END WITH AN S, IT ENDS WITH A Z.
SO ANY, ANY, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO, DO WE NEED TO RESTATE THE MOTION OR I JUST, THE SECOND WAS, OH, UH, THE MOTION WAS PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE VOTE.
DID YOU SAY NAY OR YAY? NO, I SAID YAY.
IT WAS LIKE, YOU GUYS COULD BETTER SPELL HER NAME RIGHT.
WE'VE DONE THAT ON THE COUNCIL.
I'D BE LIKE, SOMETHING A LITTLE PETTY AND WE'RE LIKE, NOPE, I'M NOT VOTING FOR THIS.
IT'S JUST THAT EACH TIME IT'S THAT WAY.
I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE DONE PETTY STUFF.
THERE'S 10 ERRORS IN THE DOCUMENT.
THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS TO OPEN OR RECESS THE OPEN MEETING AND RECONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION SECTIONS 5 5 1 0.087, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 5 5 1 0.07.
TWO REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
PROJECT, CORE PROJECT LAKE PROJECT, SQL PROJECT, THE MEGA SITE, UH,
THREE POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR HU HOSPITALITY, THE LOAN FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES, AND ANY RELATED INCENTIVES.
POSSIBLE LITIGATION WITH MIDWAY SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUDU AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES.
DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IMPACTING CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY, AND THE EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR INCENTIVES.
THE BOARD WILL NOW RESUME OPEN SESSION.
MOVING ON TO, UH, ACTION RELA RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEM EIGHT ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 2 1.
TO ENGAGE HYDE KELLY, LLP AS LITIGATION COUNSEL FOR THE TYPE A AND TYPE B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS IN MIDWAY DEVELOPMENT GROUP LLC VERSUS HUDD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND AUTHOR AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR OF THE CORPORATIONS TO EXECUTE THE ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, MOTION BY, UH, BOARD MEMBER MORRIS, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES.
UM, EIGHT TWO, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION CONVERSATION, UM, THAT TOOK PLACE DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING, UM, FOR A CONTRACT SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, ED B MEMBER MORRIS, UH, TO WORK ON AND BRING BACK A CONTRACT FORM TO USE FOR HEDC CON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
DOES EVERYONE ACCEPT? I ACCEPT.
I ACCEPT, I ACCEPT BOARD MEMBER SCHNEIDER.
UM, AND THEN VICE CHAIR, WE ALSO, I'M SORRY.
ARE THERE MORE AFTER EXEC? 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE TWO, UH, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS TO BRING BACK AS WELL, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE
[01:50:01]
DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE.I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE OKAY.
THE, UM, IS THAT SIX NINE? CORRECT? YES.
SIX NINE AND SIX 10 STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
BOARD MEMBER, REPORTER FIELD, IF YOU HAD A MOTION FOR AFTER EXEC, LET'S KEEP GOING WITH THAT.
'CAUSE IT HELPS MY NOTES IF WE DON'T MIND.
I HAVE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE, OFFER AND NEGOTIATE ON THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AND AMOUNT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT WAS TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
UH, NO, I THINK JUST THE ONE WAS THERE.
THEN THEN MOTION TO AUTHORIZE OFFER AND NEGOTIATE ON THE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED AND AMOUNTS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TWO.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER IN DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, UH, REVISITING, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX NINE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 1 16 TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT AND AWARD TO CAPITAL EXCAVATION LLC PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CORRESPONDING FUNDING AGREEMENT BY THE CORPORATION AND CITY COUNCIL.
THE, UH, THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS ACTUALLY, UM, CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY AT LLC.
THAT WAS A CORRECTION MADE AFTER THE PUBLICATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESTATE PLEASE? OR XI USED TO MISSPELLED.
IT'S CORRECT IN THE, UH, CONTRACT AND IN THE RESOLUTION, JUST NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH ZERO 16.
TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT AND AWARD TWO, CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE CORRESPONDING FUNDING AGREEMENT BY THE CORPORATION AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO MOVE WITH THE, UH, UH, UH, ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS BY THE DIRECTOR OF EDC.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS, SECONDED BY BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
ANY CON UH, DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER SNYDER AYE.
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO AND THEN REVISITING AGENDA ITEM SIX 10.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 1 7 TO APPROVE A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTY OF 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
BELIEVE WE MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING THERE.
YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CARMEL CREEK OR WHICH YES.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THAT, THAT THEY WERE NOT PURSUING THE TAX RELIEF AND WERE GOING TO JUST RAISE RENTS.
I, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES, HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE MOVING IN.
JUST IDENTIFY FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IF YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE, SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A, AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT TIME REGARDING, UM,
[01:55:02]
ADVOCATE ACTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE NIGHT.
THE NIGHT AND NOT THE MORNING.