* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO [Diversity and Inclusion Meeting on March 10, 2026.] IT IS, UH, 6:06 PM ON MARCH THE 10TH. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING AND TO ORDER. UH, SO GO AHEAD AND START WITH OUR ROLL CALL. OKAY. DO WE HAVE, ARE OKAY, PROMISE BETTER AT STATUS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ZAPE PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LEWIS AB ABSENT. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON AB ABSENT. COMMISSIONER HOLLENSWORTH PRESENT. COMMISSIONER NAJI PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ANII. PRESENT ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. GENERAL ITEM FOUR, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF. UM, I, SO I HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS ON THE, UH, GOOGLE DRIVE. WE TALKED ABOUT. UM, I BELIEVE THE, WHERE WE LANDED WAS OKAY. BRIEFLY. AGAIN, THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A GOOGLE DRIVE TO HOUSE ALL PROCLAMATIONS, LIKE PAST PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE, THAT THE COMMISSION HAS DONE, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING. AND WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WANTED IN THAT? MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT IT WAS JUST EVERYTHING THAT IS DEIB, EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE PRODUCE, ANY CONTENT, ANY DOCUMENT THAT WOULD BE HOUSED THERE. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. THE BUDGET TRACKER WOULD'VE BEEN THERE TOO. YEAH. AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT LIKE THE HANDOUTS THAT I CREATED FOR THE TRAININGS MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, THE LISTENING POST DOCUMENT THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLISHED SOON. YOU POST THAT. YEAH. SO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE RESOURCE MATERIALS. YEAH. YEAH. SO THE ADVICE I GOT FROM CITY SECRETARY, WHICH WAS, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS JUST THAT, UM, WE CAN CREATE IT. IT JUST HAS TO BE, UH, ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS AND MYSELF HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT. AND, UM, YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT IT'S SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORD. MM-HMM . YEAH. THAT'S ALL. YEAH. I THINK WHERE WE KIND OF GOT STUCK A LITTLE BIT WAS, IS GONNA OWE IT. AND WE, HAVING THE CITY AS WE TRANSITION IN AND OUTTA ROLES WOULD THE BEST WAY, THAT WAY THAT STAYS CONSTANT FOR THE NEXT PEOPLE THAT COME IN. UM, SO YEAH. ANY OTHER, UH, SUGGESTIONS? OR, GO AHEAD. DO WE CREATE IT AND GIVE IT TO YOU? OR DO YOU CREATE IT AND KEEP IT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I WOULD SAY YOU ALL CREATE IT AND THEN JUST INVITE, UM, I WILL SEND THE GMAIL FOR YOU TO INVITE IT TOO. OKAY. I KNOW WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS ONE. I JUST WANT, BUT THAT WOULD MAKE THE, WHOEVER SETS IT UP. THE OWNER. YEAH. BUT I CAN MAKE IT SO YOU CAN GIVE EDITOR ACCESS, BUT THE OWNERSHIP WOULD STILL BE WITH WHOEVER BEHAVIOR. YEAH. I CANNOT TRANSFER OWNERSHIP. I DON'T THINK SO. NO, NOT WE . SO THEN WE CAN CREATE IT THEN. YEAH. THAT WAY THE OWNERSHIP STAYS WITH THE CITY. OKAY. BUT WE ALL HAVE EDIT, EDIT, EDIT, COURT ACCESS TO ACCESS, SHARE, DOWNLOAD, RESET, BACK UP. HE'S GOT INVITE US. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. WILL DO. THAT IS ALL I REALLY HAVE FOR THANK, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON, UM, THE UPDATED IN THE GOOGLE DRIVE FOR PROCLAMATION, THE PLAN, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, AND ALL THE CONTENT AND RESOURCES? YES, MA'AM. SORRY. THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS ARE OUT. I CAN'T SHARE THEM WITH YOU GUYS YET. THEY'RE GONNA BE, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED AT THIS THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING, SO IF YOU WANNA WATCH OR COME TO THAT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'LL BE THERE. UM, BUT I'LL BRING THEM TO THE NEXT MEETING TO KIND OF GO OVER MORE IN DEPTH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE OR GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TODAY. UM, ITEM SIX, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS. 6.1 REVIEW AND UPDATE ON THE BUDGET PROGRESS TRACKER AS IT RELATES TO THESE STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. START WITH COMMISSIONER AND THEN JOSH. SO I HAVE THE SENT ABBY, THE SNAP, IF YOU CAN YES. BRING IT. IT'S GONNA BE A SNAPSHOT OF, UH, INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED. UH, ONE THING TO, UH, JUST KEEP IN MIND ON THE BACKEND, I JUST HAVE WHAT, UH, YOU SENT OUT AS AN EMAIL THAT THESE ARE THE, UH, AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY [00:05:01] CHARGED THROUGH MARCH. OKAY. SO ON THE BACKEND, IT'S JUST ITEM, THERE'S NO KIND OF SUBDIVISION. SO 1.1 WOULD BE $800 IN EXPENSE. THAT'S IT. ITEM ONE. THAT'S HOW THAT'S ALL HAPPENING ON THE BACKEND. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DIVE INTO THIS, BARRY'S GONNA FIND THAT JUST A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS $800. NOW WE CAN GET MORE GRANULAR. IF I GET GET THAT INFORMATION, I CAN ADD THAT. BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UM, RIGHT ON TOP, YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH WE'VE LEFT, UH, WE'RE LEFT WITH AND HOW MUCH WE USED YET. AND ACTUALLY THOSE EXPENSES ARE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY BE BILLED UNTIL, UH, NEXT WEEK. 'CAUSE THAT, UH, EXPENSES WERE ALL THE THINGS, THE PROJECT I'M WORKING ON FOR THIS WEEK AND THIS MEETING. RIGHT. BUT I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PAID YET. I'LL BE DELAYED INVOICING. I DON'T HAVE THAT DIFFERENTIATION. RIGHT. SO IF YOU CAN SEND ME THAT, OR IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS THAT, I CAN ADD THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE I, I DID REQUEST A, A DETAILED BUDGET REPORT FROM MM-HMM . FINANCE, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT NOTHING HAD BEEN SENT YET. . OKAY. RIGHT. SO IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT THOSE ARE THOSE, ALL THAT 5, 750 IS GONNA BE INVOICED NEXT WEEK AT BREAK AT HOME. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS PREPARING FOR THIS TRIP. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ADD THAT RIGHT NOW. OR I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SHOULD I, SINCE THE ENTIRE BUDGET HAS BEEN SANCTIONED YEAH. MAYBE ADDING IT WHEN IT'S INVOICED MAKES MORE SENSE. UH, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T LIKE THE OFFICIAL LEDGER ANYWAY. RIGHT. SO PERSONALLY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A BAD IDEA TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S BEEN COMMITTED. YEAH, FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN THE RECONCILIATION WOULD COME FROM THE ACTUAL EXPENSE REPORT OR THE FINANCE REPORT, AND THEN WE WOULD AMEND THIS IF IT WAS LIKE LESS THAN THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF A MEETING LIKE TODAY OR ANY OTHER MEETING, IF WE WERE TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE KIND OF SITTING TO, TO PLAY WITH OR MOVE AROUND THIS WOULD WORK MM-HMM . YEAH. SO ANY COMMITTED FUNDS. YEAH. THIS IS GREAT. YEAH. AND, UH, AND ACTUALLY THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF DELIVERY OF THE IN-DEPTH DIB TRAINING. I'M ACTUALLY GONNA MEETING WITH THE HR DIRECTOR THURSDAY TO OKAY. GO THROUGH THE OUTLINES FOR THAT AND SEE HOW, WHEN, WHEN, AND HOW WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE. OKAY. YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO THE REASON WHY, UM, THE DATE COLUMN IS JUST NOTHING. IT'S KIND OF JUST WHATEVER. AND, UH, THEN THE RESOURCE GUIDE AND THE YOU BELONG IN HATO, THOSE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD NOT BE WORKING ON. YEAH. BUT THOSE WOULD BE OTHER RESOURCES. YOU MIGHT GET OTHER PEOPLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT OR, AND BUY COLLATERAL, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THE NUMBER FIVE AND SIX ARE TWO THINGS THAT WERE NOT IN MY PLAN. OKAY. WELL, AND MAYBE THE DATE IS, LIKE YOU SAID, IS NOT REALLY SPECIFIC, BUT MAYBE THAT DATE IS MORE OF LIKE A UPDATED DATE. LIKE WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED IT? YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT ONE BIG DATE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I CAN ADD A LAST UPDATED AND JUST TAKE OUT THE DATE, DATE COLUMN ALTOGETHER. 'CAUSE IN THE BACKEND I CAN ADD THE BASE LINE ITEMS. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE ALL WANNA SEE ON THE TRACKER SPECIFICALLY? NO, THIS IS GOOD. WHAT I, I THINK THIS IS, WE'RE ON TRACK. WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THE TRACKER BECAUSE WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE, TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS HOW FAST ARE WE BURNING THROUGH THE MONEY? WHERE IS IT GOING? SO THAT'S SHOWING IT. AND THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO ONCE WE RECONCILE, BECAUSE FOR, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UM, GENERAL CONSULTANTS SAY ITEM 1.1, HE ONLY ENDS UP ACTUALLY NEEDING TO SPEND A THOUSAND OF THE 3000. RIGHT. ONCE IT'S RECONCILED AFTER WHAT HE TURNS IN HIS RECEIPT, UM, OR THE INVOICE AND THE PAYMENT, THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS RECONCILED THAT CAN TURN IN DIFFERENT SHADE. THIS WILL KNOW WHAT'S RECONCILED. WE'LL SEE WHAT ITEMS ARE STILL OPEN, BUT IT'LL KEEP US ON TRACK ONTO, UM, JUST A REALLY QUICK SNAPSHOT. RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN RECONCILED, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK DOESN'T MATCH WITH THE CITY BECAUSE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THEN ANYBODY LOOKS AT OUR RECORDS, THEY SAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T QUITE LINE UP WITH WHAT THE CITY HAD. IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN COMMITTED, BUT WE'RE STILL SITTING WITH UNCOMMITTED DOLLARS. OKAY. RIGHT. SO THAT'LL HELP US ALSO DIFFERENTIATE A LOT OF QUICK, UH, ASTERISK RIGHT ON TOP SAYING THAT THIS MAY NOT REFLECT IN CASE SOMEONE LIKE GENERAL PUBLIC WATCHED THIS IN THE FUTURE. THEY'RE LIKE, THIS MAY NOT REFLECT THE ACTUAL OKAY. NO, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GREAT. THEN THAT'S THE FINAL WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SPENT, IT WAS ACTUALLY REMAINING. UM, OKAY. BUT, UH, I CAN LIKE LOOK INTO ADDING THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL GONNA BE LIKE ON THE BACK END. OKAY. SO I'LL SEE, UH, WHAT I CAN DO ABOUT THAT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER HALL, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T, YOU WERE, UM, [00:10:01] YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE IF THIS, SOME, THIS BUDGET TRACKER IS GOING TO BE ON EVERY SINGLE COMMISSION MEETING GOING FORWARD. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT EVERY SINGLE MEETING, WHETHER WE HAVE ANY EXPENSES OR NOT. LIKE I HAVEN'T TURNED IN MY EXPENSE FROM THE SOCIAL. RIGHT. UM, I STILL HAVE THAT RECEIPT. I HAVE IT IN THE, BUT I HAVE IT AN ENVELOPE WITH OTHER RECEIPTS. SO I KNOW WE TURNED THAT IN. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OUTSTANDING. BUT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT. UM, WELL, THIS IS ALMOST TRUE. EVERY MEETING. OKAY. I WAS JUST LOOKING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE DATES BECAUSE IT'S, OH YEAH. THE DATES ARE NOT RIGHT. YEAH. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, AND USUALLY HAVE THE DIGITAL COPY OF THE COMMISSION BUDGET REQUEST MM-HMM . UM, FROM THAT WE SET LAST YEAR FOR THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHERE THOSE THINGS COME FROM THAT ARE UP THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE GOT APPROVED WAS THE 17,050. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S A 16 8 50. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE WHAT THAT LIKE $200 DIFFERENCE. I WAS GONNA START GET OFF. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY MANUALLY THAT ALL ADDED MANUAL, SO I BET. BUT IT SHOULD BE 17 50, 17 0, 5 0. I'LL FIX THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, REQUESTS RE UM, VERIFICATIONS FOR ITEM 6.1? MAYBE MY MATH IS WRONG. THE 16 8 50 MIGHT BE CORRECT. DID WE ADD THIS WRONG? OH, THIS, YOU ADDED THIS . I WAS LIKE, WE DID THIS. SEE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE GOT APPROVED WAS THE 17. OH, WE GOT APPROVED FOR 1750 PROBABLY THEN YOU HAVE 200, YOU HAVE 200 BUFFER THAT YOU CAN THROW SOMEWHERE ELSE. . IT MAY JUST BE ROUNDING. I DON'T KNOW. 15 FOUR 5,017. 50 12. 24 3000. OKAY. SO I JUST COPIED YOU ADDED RIGHT. I DIDN'T CHECK. AND THAT'S EXCEL, SO I'M NOT GONNA DROP NO. DO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT IN ANY WAY? LIKE OFFICIALLY? I DON'T BELIEVE, WHERE ARE YOU PULLING THE 17 NUMBER FROM? SO THE 17 0 5 0 IS WHAT WE WERE TOTALED UP THAT WE WERE GONNA BE REQUESTING. YEAH. AND I'LL HAVE TO CHECK, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET. LIKE THE WHOLE CITY BUDGET. YOU CAN WRITE ADD 200 TO YOU BELONG IN HOT OUT. I KNOW. YEAH. FOR RECESSIONS AND THINGS. HUNDRED. SO WE HAVE 200. IT'S LIKE SAYING WE HAVE 200 UNCOMMITTED DOLLARS THAT WE'VE BEEN APPROVED FOR. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THE BELONGING HUDDLE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE BANNER CLOSE AND GIVEAWAYS. BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING WHATEVER PROCESS WE NEED TO MAKE ANY KIND OF AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS A $200 DISCREPANCY. YEAH. UM, WHO WOULD, WHO, WHO DO WE NEED TO GET APPROVAL THROUGH OR WHO, HOW DO WE, I'LL JUST HAVE TO CHECK WITH FINANCE ABOUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. I'LL JUST HAVE TO CHECK'S 17,000 HAS BEEN SANCTIONED. YEAH. THEY APPROVED MM-HMM . THEY DON'T REALLY, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU PUT IT. YEAH. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY ACCOUNT FOR BEFORE THEY TAKE THAT TOO. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST, YOU WANNA SPEND IT. YEAH, WE WANNA SEND IT OTHERWISE. I MEAN, AND THE THING IS TOO, WHEN YOU SEE OUR NEXT PLAN, IT'S MUCH LESS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED. UM, BUT YES, WE WANNA DO GOOD WITH WHAT WE DID. THE ONLY, I THINK THE, IT'S MORE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, THE ONE THING THAT I HAVE NOT, AND WE HAVE NOT AS A COMMISSION COME UP WITH, IS ON THE RESOURCE GUIDE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO CREATE A RESOURCE GUIDE? WE HAVE 1500 SET ASIDE FOR THAT SPECIFIC, UM, INITIATIVE, BUT WE HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT. WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF CREATE? HOW DO WE CREATE A GOOD RESOURCE GUIDE? UH, WELL, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY DECISIONS ON IT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO, UM, TACKLE VERY, VERY SOON. WE ADD THAT AS A LINE OUT OF THE NEXT THING, UH, NEXT MEETING. AND THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME IDEAS. YOU MAY COMMENT. WELL, WE CAN ALSO REVISIT IT WHEN WE GO TO 7.3. YEAH. THAT NEW PLAN. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A NOTE THAT WE HAVE $200 THAT WE WANNA PLUG IN, UM, PROBABLY TO THE YOU BELONGING TITLE, EXPENSE ITEM, AND SEE WHAT WE NEED THERE. UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A DIFFERENT REQUEST FOR THAT MONEY. AND WE'LL DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. WHATEVER PROCESS WE NEED, WE'LL GET THAT FROM ABBY. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW IT UP AND THEN WE'LL REVISIT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING. [00:15:02] BUT THE FINAL WORD IS CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE NOTHING ELSE ON THE, UM, REVIEW UPDATE? WELL, ITEM 6.1, REVIEW AND BUDGET PROGRESS TRACKER AS IT RELATES TO THE STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. OKAY. ITEM SEVEN. SO 7.1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? I MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I, SHE PASSES FOUR. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR LAST MONTH'S MEETING FROM FEBRUARY 17TH. WE'RE MOVING ON TO 7.2 PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE LOGO OPTION. THIS WAS REALLY FUN LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT THE UPDATED IDEAS ARE. YES. OKAY. LET ME SHARE AGAIN. STAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO, WERE YOU STILL ON THE CALL WITH US WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE LOOK? IT'D BE COOL TO LOOK AT. YEAH. YEAH, IT WAS PRETTY COOL. UM, OKAY. SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WE BRING BACK SOME COLORS. UM, SO WE BROUGHT TWO COLORS, ONE OF THEM BEING THE ORANGE THAT WE DEFINITELY WERE WANTING. AND, UM, WE ALSO ADDED THE, OKAY, THIS IS THE BLUE. WE WANTED A HIPPO. UM, AND WE WANTED TO ADD THE TAGLINE UNDERNEATH. SO THAT'S NICE. WE'VE GOT IT IN BLUE, WE'VE GOT IT IN ORANGE. UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT IT WITHOUT THE HIPPO IN ORANGE. AND WE'VE GOT IT WITH THE PARENTHESES. THAT'S THE BLUE OR THE ORANGE CONNOTE. ANYTHING IN HATO, LIKE, IT'S LIKE A SCHOOL COLORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ORANGE IS THE, YEAH. SCHOOL COLORS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE BLUE. I THINK THE BLUES JUST BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT. YEAH. YEAH. I WANTED ONE OPTION THAT WAS NEITHER A CITY OR A NOR SCHOOL COLOR. BUT I DO THINK, I MEAN, IT IS A SCHOOL COLOR, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF THE COLOR HERE. IT'S THE CITY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S THE CITY HIPPO AS THE SCHOOL MASCOT. IT'S A COMMUNITY MASCOT, RIGHT? SO MM-HMM . THAT'S HOW I SEE THE ORANGE. BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK. DO YOU LIKE THAT HIPPO? I, I YOU DO. IT'S KIND OF CATCHY. I LIKE THAT. I THINK THE HIPPO IS GREAT. UH, THE ONLY THING WOULD BE THAT MAYBE IF WE'RE GOING WITH THE ORANGE, THEN THE HIPPO NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF A COLOR CHANGE. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, THE HIPPO COLOR, HE IS GREAT. HE WANTED THE ORANGE. I WOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT COMPLIMENTS ORANGE. I'M NOT GONNA GO FOR ENTIRE SHIPPED AWAY FROM GRAY. MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BROWNISH OR OKAY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AT LEAST TO ME. HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THE PARENTES? WE THOUGHT THIS BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE IT. BECAUSE TO ME THAT READS LIKE, YEAH, YOU BELONG HU YOU BELONG IN HU IT IT BREAKS IT UP. I THINK IT'S PARENTHESES KIND OF NEEDED. MM-HMM . I AGREE. YEAH. THEIS WITH THE HIPPO. I DO LIKE THAT PARENTHESIS AND HIPPO. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TOO. YEAH. MAYBE A, A DARKER HIPPO. I LIKE, I MEAN I LIKE THE COLOR OF HIPPO . I LIKE BLUE, UH, AS WELL. I MEAN, SO I THINK YOU HAVE THE OPTION THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE GRAY, HE'S, HE'S LIKE A BLUE GRAY. BUT WE COULD MAKE IT MORE BLUE OR MORE GRAY. MAYBE EVEN A SOLID GRAY WITH ORANGE. NOT LET ME LOOK UP ORANGE HIP. BUT THE ORANGE ON ORANGE, ORANGE. IS IT BLEND TOO MUCH? YOU WANT TO STAND OUT? I LIKE THE HIPPO. THE HIPPO BEING THE BLUE GRAY OR THE GRAY PEEKING IN THERE. YEAH. SO WE COULD BRING THIS BACK WITH THIS SAME COLOR AND MAYBE A MORE OF A SOLID, A TRUE GRAY. SO WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT, WHEN IT GETS BRIGHTER, IT LOOKS BETTER WHEN YOU YEAH. YEAH. I LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE ONLY REASON I SAID ORANGE HIPPO IS JUST BECAUSE U IS ORANGE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BUT IT COULD BE ANYTHING ELSE. SOMETHING THAT COMPLIMENTS. YEAH. BUT FROM PART WAY IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE A MISSHAPEN U OH YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SO ORANGE, I'M NOT SAYING ORANGE. [00:20:01] I'M SAYING SOMETHING THAT COMPLIMENTS. OH YEAH. LIKE WE SEE IT LIKE SMALLER. YEAH. YEAH. YOU ARE GONNA KIND OF RUN INTO, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A U OR SOMETHING. IT'S CUTE. I LIKE HIM SITTING IN THE U LIKE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. MAYBE IF, IF, IF THERE IS A COLOR CHANGE, ALSO MAYBE LIKE A DARKER GRAY, BUT MM-HMM. SIDE OF THAT. I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD WITH THE PARENTHESIS. Y'ALL LIKE IT WITH THE PARENTHESIS BETTER. YEAH. IT MAKES BETTER. YEAH. THAT, YEAH. I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS. ALRIGHT. WE WILL BRING HIM BACK THE FINAL VERSION. I LIKE IT. THAT'S CUTE. GOOD JOB. YEAH. GREAT JOB ON PICKING THE HIPPO TOO. REALLY CUTE. YEAH. THAT'S ALL ZACH ON MY TEAM. I'LL SEE HIM. HE'S THE KID IN THE, UH, THE HIPAA COSTUME. OH YEAH. YEAH. AWESOME. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE OUR ONE. I MEAN, WE SAW IT PRETTY MUCH AS THE FINAL WORD. MAYBE A DIFFERENT SLIGHTLY DARKER COLOR. BUT THAT'S GONNA BE OUR, OUR NEW LOGO. OUR, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A LOGO. WE PUT SOMETHING ON, I CALL, I CALL IT A TAGLINE. OUR TAGLINE. ALSO A, IT'S A LOGO FOR YOUR TAGLINE. TAGLINE. YEAH. LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR, UM, POSSIBLE ACTION IDEAS IN DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE LOGO OPTIONS. ALL RIGHT. POSSIBLE MOVING ON. SO 7.3 DISCUSSION, REVIEW AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DEIB STRATEGIC PLAN. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON AND I ATTENDED THE, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION LAST WEEKEND, TWO WEEKS AGO. AND IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD. WE GOT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. ONE OF THE THEMES I DO WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE OF THAT I, THAT I WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT IS THAT WE WEREN'T THE ONLY COMMISSION WHO PUT IN THEIR PLAN THAT THEY WANNA DO MORE CROSS-COLLABORATIVE WORK WITH THE OTHER COMMISSION. THAT WAS A RECURRING THEME THAT, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE, SO EVERYBODY'S WILLING TO INVITE US INTO THEIR MEETINGS OR WE CAN ASK COMMISSIONERS. UM, AND WE'RE OF COURSE ALWAYS WANT TO STAY OPEN LIKE WE DID WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD, HAVING THEM COME AND SIT IN AND LISTEN OR COLLABORATE WITH US IN THE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT IMPORTANT AREAS OF THE CITY FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO PARKS AND REC. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW OUR COMMISSION, THE WORK THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH DOING OVERSEAS OR HAS A PLACE IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT THING THAT THEY ALL WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH US. AND THE LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY IS ALSO VERY POPULAR. UM, WHICH IS GREAT. SO THE WAY THAT WE TACKLED IT WAS I WENT THROUGH, SO I HAD THE COPY OF LAST WEEK, LAST YEAR'S PLAN, OR THIS GOING INTO THIS YEAR'S PLAN. AND WE WENT THROUGH WHAT DO WE WANNA CONTINUE? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DROP OFF ON? OR WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE WANNA MODIFY FROM THIS GOING INTO NEXT YEAR FROM THIS WEEK? SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS FINAL LIST. SO, UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN READ IT FROM HERE. YEAH. IT'S HARD TO READ. YOU WANT ME TO READ IT, PLEASE? MY, IT'S NOT THAT GREAT. OKAY. SO NUMBER ONE IS HAVE AT LEAST ONE COMMISSION MEMBER ATTEND EACH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANNA CONTINUE. LET'S GO THROUGH QUICKLY, BUT ALSO LET ME KNOW, Y'ALL WANNA STOP AND HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS A DRAFT, IT'S, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT EVERYBODY CAN AGREE TO COMMIT ON AND HAVE SOME OWNERSHIP OVER. UM, THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT MEANT TO BE LIKE, WE ALREADY DECIDED FOR EVERYBODY AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GONNA OWN A PIECE OF IT. SORRY. UM, YEAH. DON'T TO INTERRUPT, BUT GO AHEAD. BUT I DO HAVE NOTES ON IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY SOME THINGS WE DECIDED TO PUT DOWN CONTINUE OR, OR NOT CONTINUE. NUMBER TWO IS CONTINUE WORK SESSIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL. PRESENT OUR PLAN AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NUMBER THREE IS CONSIDER OR RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL FOCUSED WORKING GROUPS. YES. THAT ONE. I DO WANNA PAUSE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS FOR GOING IN THE FUTURE. 'CAUSE WE'RE STANDING UP OUR WORKING GROUPS THIS SEASON, WHICH AS OF TOMORROW WE'RE DOING ORIENTATION ABOUT RE UH, CONSIDERING OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE KIND OF COME UP, LIKE YOUTH GROUP, UM, OR A YOUTH WORKING GROUP. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER HOLLINS HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST EARLY ON ABOUT POTENTIALLY, UM, RUNNING WITH OUR SPONSORING THAT GROUP. IS THAT SOMETHING WE STILL WANNA YEAH, WE DO. I AM STILL INTERESTED IN CHARGING, GETTING THAT OFF THE GROUND. YEAH. BECAUSE IF WE DO, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE ADOPT FOR SURE IN NEXT YEAR'S PLAN, THEN WE WANNA SET A BUDGET FOR IT TOO. WHAT KIND OF RESOURCE? YEAH. TRAINING. YEAH. YEAH. LIKE ORIENTATION, UM, TRAINING AND SUPPORT FROM STAN. YOU'RE NOT LEAVING A STAND, RIGHT? NO. UM, CERTAINLY SUPPORT FOR A SCAN, UM, WHICH INCLUDES RESOURCES, TRAINING, IDEAS, UM, ONGOING SUPPORT, AVAILABILITY AND CHECK-INS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THIS YEAR. WE MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE WE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOW WITH THESE THREE GROUPS AND WE'RE GONNA LEARN FROM IT. YEAH. BUT BECAUSE IT'S YOUTH GROUPS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, AND I, I AM VERY GRATEFUL BY THE WAY THAT YOU ARE AN EDUCATOR [00:25:01] IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SO, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE RULES AROUND YOUTH AND ONE-ON-ONE COMMUNICATION AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE GOOD THINGS ALREADY IN PLACE. YEAH. YEAH. UM, SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANNA KEEP, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT OFF THE GROUND. YEAH. WE, I MEAN, IF THAT'S A, A TIMELINE OR SOMETHING THAT WE, WE, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT ALSO. YES. WE WOULD, UM, OFFICIALLY THIS NEW ONE KICKS OFF, WHAT IS THAT? OCTOBER? LET SEE. YEAH. THIS IN OCTOBER. YES. SEPTEMBER. IT IS OCTOBER, RIGHT? MM. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE LINKING AT, WE NEED, WE WANNA FINISH UP OUR INITIATIVES FROM THIS YEAR ON THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE. AND THEN OCTOBER OFFICIALLY STARTS THE NEW, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER. YEAH, YEAH. I'M JUST SAYING. YEAH. BUT, UM, THE NEW YEAR AS FAR AS THE BUDGET FOR ANYTHING YOU MIGHT NEED MM-HMM. WOULD BE PROPOSED AND APPROVED OCTOBER FORWARD. YES. TO THE NEXT YEAR. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM PROPOSE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HU PUBLIC LIBRARY. YES. SO THAT ONE I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY HAS DIGITAL COPY OF IT, BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM WHERE, WHAT DID I DO WITH THOSE NOTES? NOTES, SORRY. OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SENT OUT VIA EMAIL? YES, IT WAS. I DON'T KNOW. UM, KRISTA HAD THE COPY OF IT, BUT THIS ONE MIGHT NOT. I THINK I HAVE A DIGITAL COPY OF IT, BUT I CAN RESHARE IT WITH THE GROUP. UM, SO THIS IS THE RECAP NOTE. SO WHEN WE, SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS AN IDEA FLORIDA, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PEOPLE THAT ROLLED OFF THE COMMISSION OR ROLLED OFF BY OTHER COMMISSIONS OR HAD APPLIED BUT NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT ROUND. SO WE WERE, AND I MEAN THAT WAS ADDED ON LATER ON. BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT AS AMBASSADORS, UM, STEPPED OFF THE COMMISSION AND WANTED A LOWER LEVEL OF TIME COMMITMENT, THEY COULD STILL BE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WOULD BE RECRUITING, THEY WOULD HELP KEEP THE WORD OUT. THEY COULD MAYBE CROSS POLLINATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. AND THE IDEA WAS THAT BY YOU LEANING ON THE WORK THAT THE LIBRARY IS ALREADY DOING, HELP KEEP THE COMMUNICATION OUT THERE AND HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN POST THAT PROGRAM. AND THEN WE COULD CREATE MAYBE A BENCH A-A-A-A-A BENCH FOR PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WANNA SIT IN COMMISSIONS IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WANNA SIT ON OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 'CAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE GOOD VOLUNTEERS, YOU WANNA KEEP THEM ENGAGED IN SOMETHING WITH THE CITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE GIST OF HAVING THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. AND IF WE ADOPT THAT, WE WOULD WANNA THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF BUDGET WILL WE WANT TO PROMOTE THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM? UM, WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO, WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? AND WE WANNA ALSO REALLY SHARPLY CLARIFY THE PURPOSE OF AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. SO WHAT ARE Y'ALL THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? OH YEAH. THIS IS THE RECAP NOTES THAT WE HAD WITH MORGAN HUBBARD AFTERWARDS. AND I HAD A, WE NEVER WROTE A DESCRIPTION OF THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. IT WAS JUST, UM, SOMETHING THAT AS PEOPLE WERE WILLING ON, WE THOUGHT, WELL, THEY HAVE ALL THIS ENERGY, THEY HAVE THESE IDEAS, THEY HAVE THIS VALUE. HOW DO WE KEEP THEM ENGAGED, UM, TO HELP US RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I ACTUALLY, I HAD DONE A LITTLE, LIKE A LITTLE SHORT WRITEUP THAT I SENT TO JACQUELINE THAT I CAN SEND TO YOU. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. UH, THAT BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER COMMISSIONERS, OTHER INTERESTED CITIZENS WHO LIKE TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE IB INITIATIVES. IT, IT PROVIDES A, IT'S A STRUCTURE THAT RECOGNIZES THESE VOLUNTEERS AND PROVIDES THEM A WAY TO BE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED. AND SOME OF THE POTENTIAL ROLES WOULD BE ASSISTING WITH LEADING NEW FOCUSED WORKING GROUPS, ASSISTING WITH LISTENING POSTS. YES. UH, FOR GATHERING INPUT FROM CITY CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS, ASSISTING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MENTORING NEW BUSINESSES AND YOUTH ENTREPRENEURS. UH, BE PRESENT AND SUPPORT CITY PROCLAMATIONS AND IN GENERAL, BE A POSITIVE CATALYST WITHIN HU FOR INCLUSION OF ALL CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS. I LOVE THAT. I NEVER GOT THAT. SEND IT OUT. I'LL SEND IT. YEAH. YEAH'S A GOOD, SO WE CAN USE, WE CAN ADOPT ALL OF THAT, OR WE CAN USE SOME OF IT. BUT IT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, DESCRIPTION OF WHAT AN AMBASSADOR COULD DO. THIS IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT THE MORE IT CAN START TO FEEL, UM, LIKE DO WE WANNA TAKE THIS ON? DO WE HAVE TO LIKE GROW AND GROW WHAT WE'RE MANAGING AND WHAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH? RIGHT. HOWEVER, AT THE SAME TIME, I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF GIVING LOTS OF PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING. THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO FIT IN TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY. AND THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE, THE MORE INCLUSIVE WE'RE BEING, THE MORE THE BIGGER THE, THE GREATER DEPTH OF DIVERSITY OF VOICES AT THE TABLE WAS GONNA BE. UM, IT'S A WAY OF ANOTHER WAY OF MEETING PEOPLE [00:30:01] WHERE THEY ARE SO THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN TO STAY INVOLVED AND STAY ENGAGED. BUT WE DO WANNA BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR TIME. SO WE DO WANNA BE VERY INTENTIONAL IF WE ADOPT OFFICIALLY AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THAT'S SUPPORTED PRIMARILY THROUGH OUR COMMISSION, WHAT IS IT THAT WE EXPECT OUT OF IT? HOW DO WE REPORT ON THE OUTCOMES FROM IT? OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, INSTITUTE AS VERY, VERY, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY GENERIC, BUT VERY GENERAL. OH, WE ARE THE AMBASSADORS, BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING? RIGHT? THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROGRAM AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA ADOPT, DOES IT NEED A BUDGET? OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T NEED, MAYBE IT'S JUST PEOPLE SHOW UP. WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN EXPAND ON THE WRITE UP. YOU KNOW, I CAN END UP MAYBE MAKE A PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF EXPANDING THE WRITE UP, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS HALF A PAGE THING TO MORE LIKE A THREE PAGE THING. YEAH. PROVIDE TRAINING UP AND HAVE A REAL CLEAR DIFFERENTIATION. DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATE, I CAN'T SAY DIFFERENTIATION. YEAH, DIFFERENTIATION. I JUST SENT, I JUST, I JUST EMAILED IT TO YOU SO YOU'LL HAVE IT BETWEEN WHAT AN AMBASSADOR'S DOING, WHAT A COMMISSIONER IS DOING, WHAT THE WORKING GROUPS ARE DOING, AND THEN WHAT THE LISTENING POSTS ARE DOING. YEAH. AND HOW THEY INTERACT. YEAH. YEAH. HOW THEY INTERACT AND HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, CROSSPOLLINATE AND WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THAT. YEAH. SO WE WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR WITH THAT IF WE DECIDE TO ADOPT IT. BUT WHEN NIKKI AND I WERE GOING THROUGH THAT PRELIMINARY PORTION OF IT LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE STILL FELT THAT, UM, IT WAS A GREAT PROGRAM TO HAVE. AND IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE HUD OF PUBLIC LIBRARY AND USE THEIR RESOURCES AS FAR AS THEIR TIME, THE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET INFORMATION, WE CAN HOUSE INFORMATION, UM, THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL IN MAKING SURE THE PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? I KNOW IT'S EARLY ON WHEN THAT CONVERSATION STILL OH, YEAH. I GUESS FOR IDEAS. OKAY. I, THEY COULD RECOMMEND LIKE BOOKS. YEAH. LIKE THEY CAN RECOMMEND DIVERSE BOOKS FOR THE LIBRARY TO, YEAH. SO THEY HAD EVEN MENTIONED LIKE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN AMBASSADOR, UM, BOOK CLUB. I WAS LIKE, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? LIKE, JUST PEOPLE DON'T WANNA BE AMBASSADORS. THIS SOMETHING FOR THEM TO GATHER AND THINK OF IDEAS TO ADVOCACY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT STARTED COME BECOMING REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING AND REALLY COOL. BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT IF OUR COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY STEWARD STEWARDING OR SUPPORTING THAT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PURPOSE IS AND HOW DO WE CHECK IN ON ANY, ON THE OUTCOMES OF THEIR TIME. RIGHT. SO THE WAY I'M, THE WAY I'M HEARING THIS, THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT WE NEED AMBASSADORS TO DO. ONE IS ASSIST WITH ANY PROGRAMS, OUTREACH PROGRAMS, OR ANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT DEIB OR OTHER, UH, UH, COMMISSIONS PROPOSE OR WORK ON. SO THAT'S ONE. AND THEN TWO, JUST GENERAL AWARENESS, UH, IN THE CITY. SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, INITIATIVE. UH, BUT THE DEFINITION OF WHAT AN AMBASSADOR IS AND THE SCOPE OF THEIR WORK HAS TO BE PRETTY DEFINED. YEAH. PRETTY DEFINED. YOU CAN'T, I CAN ASSIST WITH THAT TOO. YEAH. BECAUSE I HAVE THE CONSULTING HOURS. AND ALSO I THINK ONE THING IS IT'S GOOD IS IT ALSO GETS, IT KEEPS PEOPLE ENGAGED BECAUSE LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, HEY, MY THREE YEARS IS UP. I DON'T WANNA BE ON THE COMMISSION ANY LONGER. AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS YOU PUT YEAH, THE PASTOR FORGET YOU EXIST. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE A MENTOR TO NEW NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS. YOU CAN VOLUNTEER TO HELP WITH ONE ACTIVITY. RIGHT. AND THAT IT PROVIDES A WAY TO KIND OF KEEP PEOPLE ENGAGED WHEN THEIR QUOTE, YOU KNOW, THEIR FINAL TIME IS UP PER SE. RIGHT. AND IT KIND OF BUILDS THIS POOL OF RESOURCES THAT KEEPS GROWING. ONE WAY I SEE THIS, UH, ACTUALLY COMING COME IN HANDY IS IF TWO COMMISSIONERS, TWO SITTING COMMISSIONERS CAN'T BE AT THE WORKING GROUP MEETING. YEAH. THEN WE CAN HAVE ONE OF THE AMBASSADORS, A COUPLE OF AMBASSADORS COME IN AND HELP. 'CAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, THE MEETING REQUIREMENT. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO INTEGRATE THAT. BUT THEY'LL BE JUST INFORMED ENOUGH TO BE RIGHT. ADD VALUE, BUT NOT BE PULLED INTO THE QUORUM ROLE. RIGHT. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE, UH, EX COMMISSIONERS. YEAH. THERE'S A SUPPORT ROLE. HAVE KNOWLEDGE. YEAH, EXACTLY. THEY FIT IN WITHOUT MUCH IN, UH, INITIATIONS. YEAH. ANOTHER IDEA THAT I HAD IS I THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE AMBASSADORS TO OTHER NATIONS, LIKE WHY DON'T WE USE THE AMBASSADORS? SAY WE HAVE A SPECIFIC AMBASSADOR THAT'S FOR PARKS AND REC AMBASSADOR. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE THAT FREES UP OUR TIME RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS. THAT'S EXTRA MEANS. AND US, AND WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND WE ALL HAVE JOBS THAT EXPANDS OUR REACH. BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ATTEND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN JUST ONE SPECIFIC THING, LIKE JUST [00:35:01] PARKS AND REC OR JUST MONITORING THE BUDGET OR JUST, UM, VERY SPECIFIC INTERESTED IN CIP PROJECTS. RIGHT. SO THAT ACTUALLY EXPANDS OUR CAPACITY TO BE INFORMED AND UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, ON AN ONGOING BASIS. AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE READY TO JOIN LIKE THIS COMMISSION. UH, IT CAN BE LIKE A TALENT POOL FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEMBERS TOO. SO AS BOTH, YOU KNOW, OLD COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN GO OFF AND DO THAT AND SERVE, BUT IT IT'S WAY OF, I'M GONNA BE, I'LL EXPAND ON THE WRITEUP THAT I SENT YOU. I'LL MAKE IT LONGER AND ADD MORE STUFF TO IT JUST FROM THIS DISCUSSION AND THE IDEAS PEOPLE ARE THROWING IN. RIGHT. AND I DO THINK IT NEEDS A BUDGET. AND THE BUDGET IS PRIMARILY T-SHIRTS. T-SHIRTS. YEAH. , I MEAN, IF, IF PART OF THE, UH, GOAL IS TO SPREAD AWARENESS. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WALK INTO AN HEB WITH A, OH, I'M A, YOU KNOW, AMBASSADOR FOR DIB AND HAVE THE LOCAL, THEY'LL HAVE, YEAH. THEY'LL HAVE EIB AMBASSADOR ON THE BACK AND THEY'LL HAVE THE, YOU BELONG IN HU NEW THING ON THE FRONT. RIGHT. AND MORE THAN ONCE VICE VERSA THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE SISTANCE UNIVERSITY MM-HMM. BECAUSE I WORE THAT T-SHIRT OUT IN THE PUBLIC. YES. I GET ASKED ABOUT THAT A LOT TOO. WE GOT T-SHIRTS FOR THAT ONE. OH YEAH. WE HAVE THAT IN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT IN CITIZENS UNIVERSITY. YEAH. THE OTHER THING, UM, POSSIBLY THAT WE WANNA INCLUDE THAT HE'S, SO DAN'S GONNA PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE IDEAS SO WE CAN WHITTLE IT DOWN. ANOTHER THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT IS WHEN WE HAVE, UM, RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, LIKE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO, UM, SENDING, IF IT'S NOT US, IT COULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT THE SCHOOL, UM, HAS LIKE STEM EVENTS AND ALL OF THESE COOL THINGS THAT WORK. SOME OF US ARE PARENTS, SOME ARE NOT. BUT IF WE CAN HAVE, AND ONE OF US OR AN AMBASSADOR ATTEND, THEN WE GET AN IDEA WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE, WITH THE KIDS, HOW ARE THEY BEING? SO WE GET A GREAT WAY TO, AGAIN, EXPAND OUR CAPACITY AND HELP KEEP A, UM, LIKE A PULSE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE BIG TIME COMMITMENT OF THEM HAVING TO BE A FULL-TIME COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, REPORT THEY COULD ATTEND A MEETING, HAVE 'EM COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, UPLOAD WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING. OR WE CAN, WE CAN JUST HAVE LINE ITEM SAYING, YEAH, WE JUST TALK ABOUT, AND SO AND SO, AND THEY JUST KIND OF GIVE THEIR, THEIR INPUT. MAYBE THEY'RE ATTENDING ALL THE, UM, PUBLIC EDC MEETINGS OR THEY'RE ALL THE PUBLIC PERSON REC MEETING, OR THEY'RE GOING TO THE EVENT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT I NOTICED IS THAT THEY HAVE THIS EVENT AND IT WASN'T VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR WHEELCHAIRS. WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LET OUR, OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT KNOW. LIKE, MAYBE WE'D WANNA HAVE THAT EVENT SOMEWHERE ELSE IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN REMEDY. ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS IS A GOOD WAY TO EXPAND OUR CAPACITY AS A COMMISSION. YEAH. I WANNA GO FORWARD SOMETHING WE WANNA GO FORWARD WITH THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. OKAY. THAT'S GONNA BE A NEW THING FOR NEXT YEAR. NEXT WAS CONTINUATION OF THE LISTENING POSTS, UM, TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH PROVIDING THEM WITH FOCUS QUESTIONS AND INCORPORATE FEEDBACK INTO THE PLAN. SO YOU ALREADY GAVE US THE GUIDES ON THAT. RIGHT. SO, UM, DID EVERYBODY RECEIVE THOSE? A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LISTENING POSTS? UH, GUIDE QUESTIONS? WHERE DID IT COME? JUST TO US? JUST CANDY. BUT, BUT I'M GONNA, BUT WE MADE COPIES FOR THE, UH, WE, WE MADE THE, WE MADE COPIES FOR THE TRAININGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TOMORROW AND THURSDAY. MM-HMM . WE CAN START, YOU CAN GIVE, WE MAKE COPY, GIVE SEND A COPY TO EVERYBODY HERE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, AFTER I SENT, I SENT EVERYTHING TO BOTH YOU AND CHRIS BECAUSE, UH, CHRISTIE HAD A, SHE FOUND A COUPLE LITTLE GRAMMAR ERRORS. OKAY. UH, YEAH, ACTUALLY I DID SEE THAT MESSAGE. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. THAT'S IT NOW. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'D BE THE FINAL COPY. OKAY. UH, AND IT INCLUDES, UH, YEAH. AND IT, IT INCLUDES LIKE, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS TO ASK, UH, HINTS AND TIPS FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW TO HANDLE A PERSON WHO DOMINATES THE CONVERSATION. UH, YOU KNOW, HOW TO HANDLE SOMEONE GIVES LIKE AN ANSWER THAT'S VERY VAGUE. YOU KNOW, HOW TO PRO PRO PROD FOR MORE RECOMMENDING THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON LEADING THE MEETING TAKE THE NOTES BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO LEAD A MEETING AND MODERATE A MEETING AND TAKE NOTES AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. SO SPLITTING THE RULES UP. SO IT HAS A LOT OF, AND ALSO TALKS ABOUT HOW TO PUBLICIZE IT AND, UH, SAMPLE INVITATION. YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS I, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, UM, SPEAK ON DAN, IS THE PURPOSE AND VALUE OF LISTENING POST BEYOND THE WORKING GROUPS. BECAUSE I'LL ADMIT, LIKE, I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT I STRUGGLE WITH EXPLAINING IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. SEE, THE, THE, THE WORKING GROUPS ARE FOCUSED ON A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC MM-HMM . IN THIS CASE, VETERANS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND SENIOR CITIZENS. MM-HMM . AND SO THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY WORKING JUST AROUND THAT PARTICULAR SET OF, OF CITIZENS. AND, UH, AND THEY ALSO NOT ONLY WILL HOLD, YOU KNOW, QUOTE LISTENING POSTS WITH THEM, BUT ALSO THINK OF ACTIVITIES [00:40:01] THEY CAN DO TO ASSIST THEM. 'CAUSE I'LL BE DOING, WE'LL BE DOING SOME BRAINSTORMING AND THE TRAINING, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY SETTING UP ACTIVITIES THAT SUPPORT THAT GROUP. UH, AND THE LISTENING POST IS BASICALLY INVITATION FOR ANY CITIZEN, ANY RESIDENT TO COME AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON LIFE AND HU SO IT'S MUCH MORE BROAD AND IT'S NOT JUST FOCUSED ON ONE PARTICULAR CONSTITUENCY. OKAY. SO I HAD UNDERSTOOD IT AS THAT PLUS A WAY TO ALREADY MEET WITH AFFILIATE WITH GROUPS THAT ALREADY HAVE, LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S A ROTARY CLUB MEETING AND WE GO AND ATTEND THEM. YES. AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO, YOU KNOW, A GENERAL LISTENING POST, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, OR YOU CAN TEAM WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN DO A LISTENING POST WITH YOU, THE ROTARY CLUB OR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, OR, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE SOME OF THE, THERE'S, I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A INFORMAL BLACK NETWORKING GROUP MM-HMM . AND MAYBE AN INFORMAL LGBT GROUP. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WANT A LISTENING POST. BUT YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL, THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS. OKAY. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT? HOW DO Y'ALL SEE THAT BEING IMPLEMENTED AND SUSTAINED ONCE WE LAUNCH THEM? I THINK IDENTIFYING AND PROBABLY GONNA BE THE MOST CHALLENGING AS WELL AS KIND OF ESTABLISHING, UM, THINK STAN, YOU MENTIONED KIND OF LIKE THE CONTENT OF THOSE, LIKE HOW DO YOU FACILITATE 'EM? YEAH. UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEED TO SOLVE ALL OF RIGHT. PROBLEMS TYPE OF EVENT, BUT IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION? YEAH. UM, HOW DO YOU KIND OF STEER THE CONVERSATION, UM, IN A WAY TO OBTAIN INFORMATION THAT'S ACTIONABLE WITHOUT KIND OF TURNING IT INTO A PSEUDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING? YEAH, RIGHT. SO I THINK KIND OF SETTING UP THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN ALSO THEN EXPLAINING AND GETTING ENOUGH ENERGY AROUND IT TO WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, KINDA LIKE A DIVERSITY IN PEOPLE WHO ATTEND IT. BECAUSE I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE, IT HAS TO BE A SAFE SPACE FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE. UM, AND THEN NOT TURN INTO KIND OF LIKE A DIVISIVE THING, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EXCLUSIVE TO ANYONE LIKE WHO ATTENDS IT. SO IT'S KINDA LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO A GOOD ENOUGH MARKETING AROUND IT TO KIND OF REALLY CLEARLY OUTLINE WHAT THE POINT OF IT IS. MM-HMM . SO SAY ALL THAT TO SAY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK, UM, AS THE PROBABLY THE CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS KIND OF GET UP AND GOING, THEN I THINK USING SOME OF THAT MOMENTUM INTO LISTENING POSTS. UH, SO THAT DOESN'T KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S DUPLICATING EFFORTS. YEAH, YEAH. OR KIND OF SPLITTING OR JUST TOO MANY HIRE THE FIRE. YEAH. YOU GET, YOU DON'T GET TO SAME PEOPLE AT BOTH OF THEM, RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY SERVE DIFFERENT PURPOSES. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA, LIKE WHEN WE, WHEN WE GIVE, WHEN WE SEND YOU THIS DOCUMENT, THE GUIDE FOR WORKING TEAM DISCUSSION SOLICITING POST, BECAUSE IT INCLUDES LIKE A SHORT TALK, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LITTLE TWO, ONE MINUTE TALK TO INTRODUCE THIS SESSION. AND THEN ALSO GIVES YOU SAMPLE QUESTIONS TO ASK. AND THEN ALSO, UH, I HAVE A DRAFT INVITATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE LIKE A GO ON THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF INVITING PEOPLE TO A LISTENING POST THAT BASICALLY EXPLAINS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS. UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE, THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF HU'S STRATEGIC PLAN INCLUDES CREATING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH INCLUDES CREATING A COMMUNITY THAT IS ENGAGED, TOLERANT, AND COMPASSIONATE, LEVERAGING EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND EXPERIENCES AND BUILDING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE CAN FEEL THEY BELONG AND HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD. AND THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO KICK US. UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HEAR IT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE, UH, SAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SOME QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN ASK, ANSWER VERY QUICKLY. LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS ONE WORD YOU WOULD USE TO DESCRIBE OUR COMMUNITY AND WHY IT WOULD BE LIKE AN ICEBREAKER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, QUESTION'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ARE ONE OR TWO MAJOR CHALLENGES THAT LIVING IN HUDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED? WHAT ARE ONE, ONE OR TWO THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOU FEEL MORE VALUED OR WELCOMED HERE AT HATO? UH, DO YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD MAKE HATO A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE? EITHER FOR EVERYONE OR FOR YOURSELF IN PARTICULAR? YOU KNOW, DO YOU FEEL THAT HATO IS TRULY PRACTICING MAKING EVERYONE FEEL WELCOMED INCLUDED IN VALUED? YEAH, I, I THINK SO GUYS, A DISCUSSION AND I, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ABBY, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CITIZEN SURVEY'S GONNA BE COMING OUT. OH YEAH. SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WILL BE IN THERE, WHICH I THINK AGAIN, GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO [00:45:01] PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT AND SAY, HEY, BASED OFF SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM THE SURVEY, WE WANNA SET UP SOME LISTENING POSTS TO KIND OF HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY. YEAH. MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT WAY IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. RIGHT. LIKE WE'RE, AND THEN IT JUST POINTS EVERYTHING BACK RIGHT. TOWARDS WHAT THE CITY'S ATTEMPTING TO DO. SO YEAH, I THINK TIMING IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THE MOST CRITICAL POINT OF THAT. AND ACTUALLY ITEM 2.2 IN THE OVERALL, UH, EXECUTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS LEVERAGE AND UTILIZE, UH, HU'S NEXT GENERAL CITIZEN SURVEY THAT IS NOW COMING OUT. AND BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DID ASSIST IN GETTING THE WORD OUT SO WE CAN INCREASE PARTICIPATION, PROVIDE ASSISTANCE, BUT THEN C AS REVIEW RESULTS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO DEIV PLAN BASED UPON FEEDBACK FROM THAT SURVEY. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, ON THAT NOTE AS FAR AS THE SURVEY GOES, THAT WE DID SEE, WE LEARNED AN UPTICK IN PARTICIPATION. I THINK IT WAS, I CAN'T READ MY SCRIBBLE SCRABBLE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. IS THAT WHAT I WROTE? PLUS TWO, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THERE WAST A, THERE WAS GOOD, UM, I THINK LIKE A HUNDRED MORE PEOPLE. YEAH. 'CAUSE THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE METRICS FOR THAT WAS PERCENT, UH, NUMBER OR PERCENT OF COMPLETED SURVEYS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PERCENT INCREASE SINCE THE PREVIOUS ONE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THAT MEANS YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUCCESS THERE. AND I PUT A DRINK CHECK MARK NEXT TOO. I SAID, WE DID IT AND I SAID YES. PLUS I THINK IT SAYS PLUS TWO PERCENTAGE POINTS. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHAT I SCRIBBLE SCRABBLE THERE. BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE DID GET AN INCREASE PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. AND THAT MIGHT ALSO GIVE YOU SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME QUESTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL THINGS TO POKE ON MM-HMM . IF YOU GET CERTAIN FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, IN THAT SURVEY. YEAH. UM, AND THEN, GOOD. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD THE LISTENING POST, WE WANNA THINK ABOUT, UM, FOR THE LISTENING POST SUPPORT BUDGET ITEM, HOW MUCH WE WANNA SET ASIDE FOR STAFF'S TIME FOR CONSULTATION, CONTINUING SUPPORT TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL. NEXT WE HAVE WORK WITH THE HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO REVIEW DEIB FOCUS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH AND ECONOMIC, OH, GOING BACK TO LISTENING POSTS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I, WE COULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO DO A COUPLE WHERE I'M ACTUALLY IN TOWN AND I HELP WITH THEM AND TAKE NOTES AND YEAH. OH, GET THEM DOING. YEAH. WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE CAN LOOK THAT. OKAY. GET 'EM OFF THE GROUND. YEAH. SO WORKING WITH THE HEDC TO REVIEW, DIB FOCUS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EMPOWERMENT. UM, I DUNNO THAT THAT'S, SO WE, ON, UM, THIS PAST WEEK, YEARS ONE, WE WITH SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON HERE, WE HAD NOT STARTED YET. UM, THAT WAS HAVING A PERSON WHO WAS GONNA BE ME WORKING WITH THE EDC. SO I HAD A MEETING WITH CHENEY, BUT THERE WAS NO, NO ACTION ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THERE. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP IT ON THERE AND PURSUE IT INTO NEXT YEAR. IF THE WHOLE COMMISSION AGREES, WHAT CAN THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE HAVE THAT TIME? WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP OR WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORTING THEM OR PROVIDING INPUT, FEEDBACK, GUIDANCE, UM, AND HOW DOES, BECAUSE WE WANNA THINK ABOUT WHEN THE IDEA BEHIND, UM, ECONOMIC EXPANSION IS SUPPOSED TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? SO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE, UM, ENSURE THE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EMPOWERMENT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. LIKE, I KNOW THAT MR. COMMISSIONER BELL, WHEN HE WAS HERE, HE WAS, HE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE DIVERSIFICATION OF, UM, VENDORS, RIGHT? WHO WAS GETTING OUR, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WASN'T KEEPING AN EYE ON MAKING SURE THAT, UM, UNDERSERVED OR MINORITY GROUPS WERE GETTING A FAIR SHOT AT BIDS, THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THE CITY. UM, SO HE'S NOT WITH US ANYMORE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS THE EXPERTISE. UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE WANNA BE THINKING ABOUT. WHAT ARE Y'ALL THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? AND ALSO THE, UH, BETTER THE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS WORKING GROUP CAN BE A BIG ASSISTANCE THERE BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR AREA. YEAH. AND WHEN I DO THE TRAINING, I'M GONNA ALSO SHARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GROUP THAT PARTICULAR, UH, STRATEGIC LINE ITEM. UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, DO SOME BRAINSTORMING WHEN WE DO THE TRAINING SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE SMALL BUSINESS WORKING GROUP ON THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY IN BUSINESS AND DIVERSE BUSINESSES. SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY COULD BE A REAL CATALYST AND ASSIST WITH THIS. OKAY. WELL, I'M IN, I'M SIGNED UP FOR THAT GROUP, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND WHO'S GONNA BE LEAD AND WHO'S THE OFFICIAL INTERFACE TO THAT ONE? JAVI LEWIS [00:50:01] COMMISSION. LEWIS, RIGHT. JAVI LEWIS. IS THAT ONE? MM-HMM . UH, I'M THE LIAISON FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS. RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER NIKKI WILLIAMSON. RIGHT. NIKKI IS THE VETERANS GOOD. I'LL MAKE SURE I MENTION THAT. THE TRAINING. YEAH. THEY WANNA BE CONNECTED TO THEIR LIAISONS. UM, WHAT OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? SO WE HAVE STAND HERE TODAY, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE, WHAT'S THE PROPER AND EFFECTIVE WAY OF WORKING WITH OUR HU EDC AS A COMMISSION? DO WE HAVE A WAY THAT WE, WELL ONE, DO WE HAVE A WAY THAT WE CONNECT ANY, UH, INITIATIVES THAT THE EDC HAS? AND, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT ARE SOME UNDERREPRESENTED, UH, POPULATIONS THAT LIVE IN HUDU OR MINORITY POPULATIONS THAT LIVE IN HUDU THAT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR PROGRAMS? UH, ARE THEY ABLE TO MARKET ALL THEIR INITIATIVES EQUALLY? AND, UH, LIKE ON WONDERING, LIKE, IS IT A QUESTION OF AWARENESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? LIKE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY PUTTING THE AWARENESS OF THE INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN FIND IT WITH THE WAY THAT THOSE GROUPS SEEK INFORMATION? RIGHT. THAT, AND THEN, UH, IS THERE A WAY FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT OR, I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M A LITTLE, UH, CONFUSED ON, NOT CONFUSED, BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE EDC ACTUALLY DOES. SO THAT'S WHY NOT ABLE TO FORMULATE A VERY STRICT, UH, IDEAS. BUT YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, THEY SHOULD COME TO, THEY, THEY CAN ATTEND A MEETING. SO IN A , I THINK THAT COULD BE ONE OF THAT, BECAUSE I YEAH. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE, YOU GONNA BE THE AMBASSADOR OFFICE? YEAH. AND ACTUALLY, AND ACTUALLY, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE PLAN WAS TO, LIKE, MAYBE FOR EACH CITY, FOR EACH OF THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS IS INVITE ONE CITY DEPARTMENT MM-HMM . TO KIND OF SHARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND DIVERSITY AND TO, AND TO LIKE BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF THEM. YES. ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT YOU REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO, TO, UH, YEAH. TO INVITE THEM INTO A FUTURE MEETING AND HAVE, DO A LITTLE BRIEFING WITH Y'ALL. YEP. THAT'S FAIR. YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE OUR EDC, WHICH IS OUR MM-HMM . UH, CORPORATION THAT IS THE BOARD. AND AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE BE ABLE TO BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO VERSUS WHAT THE CORPORATION DOES. IT'S ALL CONVOLUTED TO ME, BUT YEAH. IN A BIG NUTSHELL, THEY'RE THERE TO DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LIKE, LIKE MAKE SURE THAT, SO IT'S DIFFERENT HERE. NOT EVERY CITY IS THE SAME. OUR CORPORATION ACTUALLY OWNS ASSETS LIKE OWN LAND, LIKE THE CONWOOD PROPERTIES. MM-HMM . NOT EVERY EDC DOES THAT. AND ESPECIALLY THAT IT'S UNCOMMON, I THINK IN RURAL COMMUNITIES FOR THE EDC TO OWN LAND AND HAVE THOSE KIND OF ASSETS. MM-HMM . UM, BUT WHAT THEIR JOB IS TO BRING, UM, BIG, I MEAN, THE BIG DREAM IS TO BRING BIG THINGS LIKE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, COLLEGE EDUCATION, BIG, YOU KNOW, ROUTE SETTING THINGS TO A COMMUNITY SO WE CAN THRIVE. THINGS THAT REALLY SERVE. UM, AND IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAINMENT, RIGHT? THEY MIGHT PURSUE A GROCERY STORE, THEY MIGHT PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE COOKIE, UH, TO COME HERE. LIKE THAT'S THEIR, THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THIS COMMUNITY IS WHAT THEY'RE CHARGED WITH. AND THAT SHOWS UP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. RIGHT. ESPECIALLY IN OURS, WHICH IS A COMPLEX, I THINK A COMPLEX SYSTEM COMPARED TO SOME OTHER RURAL AREAS. YEAH. THEY KIND OF ANALYZE AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE NEED? AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE WISHLIST SURVEY. MM-HMM . AND WE PUT OUT, WE WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO LET US KNOW WHAT KIND OF, UH, RETAIL RESTAURANTS YOU WOULD WANT US TO EITHER TRY TO RECRUIT OR INCENTIVIZE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONE ACTUALLY. OKAY. OH NO. THE ONE IS THAT KIND OF SPEARHEADED. YES. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING THOSE . YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. I, YOU THINK ABOUT, SO THEN WHAT'S THE DECISION MAKING? BECAUSE I, BECAUSE, SO WHAT I, WHERE MY HEAD GOES WITH ANY KIND OF DECISION MAKING OR MM-HMM . ENTITY, UM, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION IS, YOU KNOW, WHO KIND OF PULLS THE LEVERAGE. SO IF WE'RE PROVIDING FEEDBACK, HOW MUCH OF THAT FEEDBACK MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THE ACTUAL DECISION IS? YEAH. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FORMAL PROCESS? IS IT STUFF THAT HAS TO GO UP TO CITY COUNCIL? IS THERE STUFF THAT HAS TO, LIKE, IS THAT GROUP KIND OF MAKING THOSE DECISIONS FROM, BECAUSE I KNOW I TOOK THE SURVEY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY WERE. RIGHT. SO IF I WANTED A, I DON'T KNOW, I [00:55:01] FORGOT. EVEN FORGOT WHAT I, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE PUT LIKE A HIGH END STAKE PLACE. RIGHT. AND WE GET LIKE ANOTHER CHIPOTLE, I'M GONNA WANT TO KNOW, WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THE CHIPOTLE? YEAH. VERSUS WHAT I HAD MET RUTH, CHRIS', CHRIS, NOT CHIPOTLE. SO TEXAS RED HOUSE WAS THE NUMBER ONE ANSWER RESTAURANT. THAT'S WHAT I LOOKING AND I'M, YEAH. SO I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE HEDC HAS GONE THROUGH, UM, THEY'RE REALLY SHIFTING HOW THEY OPERATE RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THEY ARE VERY OPEN TO, UM, ANY KIND OF OPINIONS A CHANGE. UM, THEY ARE USING THAT SURVEY DATA TO, SO IT'S, IT'S FUNNY HOW IT WORKS, AND I'M GONNA GIVE A VERY NON UH, OFFICIAL ANSWER ON THIS, BUT SOME THINGS JUST COME TO THE CITY BY, BY, UM, CHANCE FREE MAR, YOU KNOW, FREE ENTERPRISE. YEAH. UH, AND THEN SOME THINGS ARE ACTUALLY MY COOKIE ARE INVOLVED IN DEALS WITH THE CITY, LIKE THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE OWN THAT. WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT GOES ON IT. MM-HMM . A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE POP UP ALL OVER THE CITY IS, UH, DEVELOPER DRIVEN. YEAH. PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WAS SOLD TO A DEVELOPER AND THEY CAN PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT ON THAT. UM, SO AS AN EXAMPLE OF A DEVELOPER DRIVEN YEAH. THEY DECIDE WHAT IS IN THAT, THAT SPACE. YEAH. UM, AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE FAST FOOD PLACES. IT'S, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT ARE DRIVEN BY THE MARKET. UM, BUT SO THEY DECIDE ON, DECIDE ON THE BIG PROJECT. SO WHAT THAT SURVEY DID WAS TELL THEM, WE ALSO CAN'T VERY SUCCESSFULLY JUST RECRUIT PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM. WE CAN'T SAY, HEY, RUTH, CHRIS, YOU KNOW, COME ON OVER HERE. MM-HMM . BUT THAT TELLS THEM IF A TEXAS ROADHOUSE EXPRESSES INTEREST IN COMING HERE, THEY CAN COME BACK TO 'EM AND SAY, ALRIGHT, WELL THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER ONE ANSWER ON OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY. UM, A LOT OF RESIDENTS MUST WANT YOU HERE. WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THEM, OR, UM, WE CAN EVEN USE THAT AS A RECRUITING TOOL TO SAY, HEY, PEOPLE WANT YOU HERE. SEE Y'ALL SUCCEED, SO COME ON. YEAH. YEAH. UM, SO THEY ARE USING THAT DATA. UM, BUT YOU, ANYONE, ALL OF THEIR MEETINGS JUST LIKE THESE ARE PUBLIC. UM, AND THEY'RE IN THIS ROOM, SO IT'S NICE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, UM, AS SCARY, I THINK AS GOING TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND SPEAKING. UM, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO THEIR MEETINGS AND LISTEN, SPEAKING. YEAH. I HOPE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I NO, IT DOES. I, I, YEAH. I THINK IT JUST KIND OF, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT OUR, UM, PARTICIPATION IS OR KIND OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OR, UM, COMMENTARY ON DECISION MAKING THAT'S HAPPENING, UH, BASED OFF OF WHAT WE SEE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND LIKE, HOW DOES THIS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IS THIS DECISION MAKING PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THERE'S LESS INCLUSION OR IS THIS, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROPRIATE PULSE ON IT. 'CAUSE JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S THE COMMUNITY THOUGHT PROCESS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO DO WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO KIND OF EITHER SOURCE THE OPINION AND THEN REPRESENT THAT VOICE BACK TO THOSE? THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS, THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE THE DISCONNECT IS, IS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN PEOPLE WHO ALL HAVE DIFFERENT TIES IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE'RE BRINGING SOME OF OUR OWN PERSONAL YEAH. OUR OWN KIND OF CLOSE, CLOSELY HELD STUFF TO THAT VERSUS, HEY, I MEAN, I FEEL THIS WAY, BUT I'VE HEARD FROM ENOUGH PEOPLE, OR WE HAVE GATHERED ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BRING THIS TO THIS GROUP WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT FEEDBACK. I THINK THAT, WELL, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WORKING, BUILDING THESE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS, RIGHT? THEIR PURPOSE OF THEM IS TO WORK ON A SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC, BUT THEN THE LIAISON PORTION OF IT IS THAT BRIDGE BACK. SO THAT'S HOW WE, LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO GIVE, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT DECISION MAKERS WITH THE EDC, BUT WE CAN BE ADVISORY, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE WOULD SAY, THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR WORKING, OUR, OUR VETERANS WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN MEETING THIS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE POST? NOT EXACTLY, BUT IT WASN'T US. BUT, UM, WE'RE HEARING THAT THEY WANT A SPECIFIC, THEY NEED A PLACE, THEY NEED A MEETING PLACE, RIGHT? THAT COULD HAVE COME FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE ADVISING COMMISSION. BUT WE DON'T JUST SAY THAT WE BACK IT UP WITH THIS IS WHAT THIS GROUP, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY THE WORKING GROUP COULD. RIGHT? OR WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE FEEDBACK. LIKE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LONG TIME REQUEST IN THE CITY BASED ON SURVEYS AND PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK THAT WE WANT MORE ACTIVITIES FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. 'CAUSE THEY'RE TAXPAYERS HERE, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT FOR THEM TO DO. SAME THING WITH OUR, WITH OUR YOUTH, BUT NOW WE'VE [01:00:01] GOT COOKIE, RIGHT? SO THOSE KIND, UH, THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION THAT WE CAN BACK UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, S THAT SURVEY DATA, UM, CITIZEN SURVEY DATA, AND ALSO FROM WORKING WITH THESE WORKING GROUPS WHO ARE NOW GOING TO BE ORGANIZED INTO COHESION, UM, IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, IT'S NOT JUST ME. I DON'T EVEN LIKE RUTH CHRIS. I DON'T EVEN EAT ME, WHATEVER. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING, AND THIS IS THE GROUP THAT, UM, THIS IS WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. SO WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MYSELF AND MY HOUSEHOLD, MY NEIGHBORS, BUT IT'S COMING FROM US AS COMMISSIONERS WORKING WITH THE WORKING GROUPS. AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE GUARANTEEING OR ENSURING THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, GETTING ORGANIZED AROUND THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, AFFILIATION GROUP IS ACTUALLY BEING FUNNELED UP, WHICH WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO IS FUNNEL IT HERE, FUNNEL TO CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, HOW WE PRESENT. SO, SO THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY THEN IS I THINK WE HAVE TO, AND I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE CREATED THE WORKING GROUP, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE KIND OF LAND ON THOSE THREE, BUT I THINK ONE THING WE, WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THEN IS ARE WE CAPTURING ENOUGH OF THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL GROUPS OR VOICES? SO LIKE, WE'RE BRINGING CONCERNS FROM SMALL BUSINESS SENIOR CITIZENS AND VETERANS, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE LIKE THREE OR FOUR OTHER LARGELY REPRESENTED GROUPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T HAVE WORKING GROUPS THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS THOSE OTHER ONES. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE WALKING AWAY FROM THOSE WORKING GROUPS THINKING EVERYTHING'S GOOD. BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE NOTHER SET WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, ACTUALLY IF I'D HAD A, A SAY, AND MAYBE I DON'T IDENTIFY AS A VETERAN OR A SMALL BUSINESS, OR, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S TO ME, I THINK IS GONNA BE THE NEXT BIG HURDLE, IS HOW DO WE SOURCE INFORMATION THAT MAY NOT EXIST WITHIN ONE OF THOSE WORKING GROUPS, BUT ALSO HAS ENOUGH VALUE OR ENOUGH IMPACT THAT IT, IT SHOULD BE HEARD OR CONSIDERED. SO HOW DO WE KIND OF ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY? SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT. OH, NO, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING. I JUST, I JUST THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS IT GETTING INPUT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING TACTICS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, AS YOU KNOW, CAN, YOU KNOW, HOW SHOULD, HOW TO ESTABLISH A MINORITY SUPPLIER PROGRAM. UH, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS LIKE HOLDING WORKSHOPS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES ON HOW TO START RUN A SMALL BUSINESS, MAYBE, UH, STARTING A YOUTH ENTREPRENEUR PROGRAM, UH, AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, UN MAYBE UNDERSERVED YOUTH IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM RESOURCES TO START THEIR OWN LITTLE MICRO BUSINESSES. YOU CAN ALSO START THINKING LIKE, CREATIVELY NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING INPUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE PROACTIVE THINGS THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES AROUND FOSTERING, UH, ECONOMIC EQUITY FOR EVERYBODY. I MEAN, I, I EVEN THINK BACK TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE OLD SUGGESTION BOX YOU HAVE AT, YOU HAVE AT WORK, RIGHT? LIKE, HAVING A, A MEANS FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT, UM, THEIR CONCERNS OR INFORMATION. MAYBE IT'S NOT AS FORMAL AS LIKE A CITY COMPLAINT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE IS THERE A PLACE LIKE, HEY, I HAVE A QUESTION, A CONCERN AND ASK THAT I BELIEVE FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF EEIB. IS THERE A PLACE TO SUBMIT THAT MAYBE DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM TO COME TO A SUBMISSION MEETING? RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DROP IT IN THERE AND THEN US AS A COMMISSION CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WE DO OUR INVESTIGATION, OR WE DO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, OR WE SET UP A SPECIFIC LISTENING POST BECAUSE WE SEE A TREND, RIGHT? OR A CONCERN THAT COMES UP THAT'S JUST LIKE, HEY, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT, IT IS NOT LIKE IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY RAISE THE ISSUE, BUT WE GOTTA, WE GOT COMMENTARY ON THIS NOW. WE MIGHT NEED A, A CENTRAL FOCUSED LISTENING GROUP ON THIS ISSUE. AND THEN FROM THAT INFORMATION WE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR, YOUR KIND OF ASSESSMENT THERE, STAN, BUT, AND THAT, THAT KIND OF, AND YOU CAN ALSO GET FEED, YOU MIGHT IDENTIFY CERTAIN ISSUES WHEN THE RESULTS COME OUT FROM THE SURVEY. YEAH. UH, AND THEN SECONDLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, UH, TACTIC 5.5 DASH TWO AND CONTINUE TO GROW OUR CULTURE, COMMUNITY INCLUSION, BELONGING, UH, WE DID HAVE ADD A FEEDBACK LINK FOR COMMENTS THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE DEI COMMISSION, UH, AND ALSO PROVIDE A SHORT SURVEY TO GET INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM THOSE WHO ATTEND PROCLAMATIONS. BUT MAYBE WHEN ABBY COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, DID WE EVER ADD A FEEDBACK LINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE, LIKE ON THE DEIB COMMISSION WEBPAGE HAVE A, A LINK SAYING, YOU KNOW, UH, DO YOU WANNA PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO THE DIB COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT? AND JUST HAVE THAT ON THE WEBSITE? YEAH. IT'S ON THE ONGOING, UM, WITH THE COMMS TEAM. GOOD. GOOD. [01:05:01] I JUST LIKE, WE, WE, WE CAN ONLY BE SO MANY PLACES. RIGHT. SO EVEN WHEN THE, WITH THE LISTENING POST YEAH. BUT ALSO PROVIDING, HEY, JUST A LINK ON THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, ON THE DV COMMISSION, HEY, YOU WANNA FIND AN EXAMPLE? PREFER THAT THEY FEEL SAFER DOING ANONYMOUSLY ONLINE. YEAH. IT'S ANONYMOUS AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANONYMOUS. SOMETHING WE DID TALK ABOUT LAST YEAR IS 'CAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMING FROM SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN HURO BECAUSE WE THE HURO CITIZENS GROUP. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, GET THEIR INFORMATION. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GOT . 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, YOU CAN HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CALL SOME RANDOM PERSON ON THE INTERNET, YOU KNOW, NASTY TROLLS ON THE INTERNET. YEAH. KNOW. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT, ESPECIALLY ANTI THESE ANTI DID PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE. BUT, BUT, OKAY. SO THE ONLY, MY ONLY ON FACEBOOK, MY ONLY PUSHBACK ON THAT WOULD BE, EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, I THINK PART OF THE DISCERNMENT OF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THAT, RIGHT. LIKE, AND, AND KIND OF SAY LIKE, HEY, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF REALLY GO DOWN THE ROUTE. RIGHT. BUT AS SOMEONE WHO LIKE PASSED THROUGH, SO LIKE, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT MAY SPEND TIME IN HUDU, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE, BUT THEY'RE HERE ENOUGH TO COMMENT ON WHETHER IT FEELS INCLUSIVE. SO LIKE, IF THEY FELT THE NEED, LIKE WHAT IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO MOVE TO HU HU. RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. BUT IF I WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE AS A, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF, SO I DON'T KNOW. I I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GET LESS PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IF THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. I HEAR YOU AND I UNDERSTAND. UM, BUT THE PUSHBACK THAT WE GOT, OR THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WAS THAT PEOPLE FEEDBACK TEND TO, TO BE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT WHO GETS A SAY HERE. AND THEY WANNA SAY, WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT PAYING TAXES HERE, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A SAY HERE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THAT PUSHBACK AND BROUGHT FROM DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, VERY, IT'S A VERY VALID POINT. RENT. YEAH. PEOPLE WANNA KNOW. WELL, IF THEY'RE GETTING INPUT, THEN THEY NEED TO BE, THEY WANNA, THEY, THEY NEED TO BE PAYING CITIZENS HERE AND THEY NEED TO BE CITIZENS, PERIOD. RIGHT. THEY DIDN'T, THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF THAT SENSITIVITY AROUND IT. SO MAYBE, AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I ACTUALLY WOULD PREFER THAT IT COULD BE NOT, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE ENGAGEMENT. HOWEVER, IF THE POINT OF IT IS TO TAKE ACTION ITEMS, THEN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY INCLUDE A BUDGET AROUND THOSE ITEMS. THEN THOSE PEOPLE, THEN THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM HU TAX HU CITIZENS. I THINK, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE ETJ RIGHT. TOO. THAT KIND OF LEAVES ALL OF THOSE HU RESIDENTS OUT. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T EVEN GET TO VOTE IN CITY ELECTIONS. RIGHT? WELL, THE EEJ IS IN, UM, EXTRA TERRITORY. I CAN'T EVEN SAY LIKE, WELL, ANYONE IN CITY LIMITS MM-HMM . PAYS TAXES, BUT WE DO, WE HAVE A SALES TAX ETJ THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM CITY LIMITS. SO PEOPLE MIGHT, MAY PAY SALES TAXES, BUT NOT PROPERTY TAXES. YEAH. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT. WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT ONE WAY TO KIND OF TACKLE THAT SITUATION IS THAT WE OPEN IT UP TO ANONYMOUS, UH, FEEDBACK, BUT THEN WE KIND OF HAVE A BACKEND RATING OF OKAY, IF SOMEONE'S, UH, IF IT'S AN ACTUAL PERSON WITH THEIR NAME AND EVERYTHING, UM, THAT GETS TREATED SLIGHTLY WITH MORE LIKE A MORE QUALITY DATA. YEAH. AND THEN WE HAVE LESS QUALITY DATA. SO THEN YOU NEED A KIND OF, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE THE FILTER OF THAT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE COMMENTS ARE GOING SOMEWHERE. THEY'RE COMING INTO US AND WE SIFT THROUGH IT, AND THEN WE KIND OF DISTILL IT SOMETHING THAT'S ACTIONABLE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING GOOD. YOU JUST PUT A QUESTION THAT SAYS, ARE YOU, DO YOU LIVE IN HU MM-HMM . I MEAN, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS AND I DROP IT. LEAVE IT OPTIONAL NAME, OPTIONAL AND I'LL DROP IT. YEAH. IF I HAD TO PUT MY NAME ON, ON A COMPLAINT OR A, A COMMENT WHERE I AM INDICATING THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS CITY IS DIVERSE OR INCLUSIVE, I'M LESS WILLING TO DO IT. IF I FEEL LIKE THERE'S YOU ONE, YOU CAN IDENTIFY ME, OR TWO, THERE'S WAY FOR YOU TO TAKE RETRIBUTION AGAINST THE COMMENT THAT I'M SAYING MM-HMM . I UNDERSTAND. WHICH TO ME MAKES IT LESS INCLUSIVE. I'LL MAKE IT OPTIONAL FEEL TO ADD YOUR NAME IF YOU WANT. RIGHT. BUT I, BUT I, BUT I THINK I, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE ONCE WE DO THAT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE STANDING UP ON A TABLE AND TALKING VERSUS MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT FEEL MARGINALIZED BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON. AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ME AND LOOK ME UP AND POINT AT ME AND SAY, OH, WELL THIS PERSON FEELS THIS WAY, I'M NOT COMMENTING ANYMORE. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS, YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD LIKE ONE OR LIKE MAYBE ONE SENTENCE BEFORE THE COMMENT LINE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE TRULY VALUE DIVERSITY HERE. WE REALLY WANT [01:10:01] TO HEAR YOUR VOICE. LIKE, MAKE, MAKE THE INVITATION TO MAKE A COMMENT, SHOW HOW OPEN WE ARE. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THOUGH, I DON'T, I DO SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER ZEPEDA SAYING ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, IF WE'RE MOVING THINGS UP THE CHAIN AND ASKING FOR BUDGET FOR ITEMS, THEY DO WANT TO KNOW THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE BENEFITING TAX PAYING RESIDENTS. MM-HMM . BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF IT WAS, I DON'T REALLY FORESEE IT BEING AN ISSUE BEING AN ANONYMOUS, BECAUSE EVEN IF IT WASN'T THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO, UM, THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO, VE IF SOMEONE PUTS IN THEIR NAME, WE CAN'T VERIFY, OR THIS BOARD WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VERIFY WHETHER THEY WERE A CITIZEN OR NOT. YEAH. SO IT DOESN'T, YOU STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW. WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE SELF IDENTIFY AND, AND THE CHANCES THAT SOMEONE COME ONTO THE CITY OF HU'S WEBSITE ON THE DEIB PAGE TO MAKE A COMMENT, THE HIGH CHANCES ARE THEY'RE EITHER SOMEONE WHO COMES HERE A LOT THAT LIVE HERE THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT MOVING HERE. YEAH. AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TROLLING THAT BAD, THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LIKE THIS, BUT THIS, THIS CITY ISN'T THAT CITY. RIGHT. LIKE, SO I FEEL LIKE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE, YOU, YOU HAVE A HIGHER PROBABILITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET REAL PEOPLE COMMENTING THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MAYBE IN LIKE A BIGGER METROPOLITAN WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO LIKE SHIFT STUFF. OH, YEAH. NEW YORK CITY, EVERYONE'S GONNA, YEAH. LIKE I, I COULD SHOW UP ON NEW YORK CITY JUST BY BROWSING. RIGHT. LIKE, BUT WHEN I'M IN HU I'M IN HU. SO, LIKE, I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER. I'M NOT SAYING LIKE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT LINE ITEM WILL BE VERY IMPACTFUL IN KIND OF THE REST OF THESE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE LISTING POSTS AND THE WORKING GROUPS. SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS, UM, A GUIDE ON SOME GUARDRAILS, RIGHT? SO LET'S GET SOME GUIDANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO WE WILL GET THAT FROM IN THE CITY, BUT LET'S GET THEM OFFICIAL GUARDRAILS. SO THAT ONE, WE ARE MAKING IT ATTRACTIVE AND, AND, AND ENGAGING FOR ENGAGEMENT FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. AND IT FEELS SAFE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WHERE WE'RE ALSO BUILDING IN THE NECESSARY GUARDRAIL, THAT IF IT BECOMES AN ITEM THAT WE DO WANT TO MOVE UP THE CHAIN AND ASSIGN A BUDGET TO THAT IT IS FOR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE HERE AND ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM IT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING, UM, LIKE A REALLY, A FEEDBACK FORM ON THE WEBPAGE? YES. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE, UH, YEAH, IT'S IN THE STRATEGIC EXECUTION PLAN. OKAY. BUT IN, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS TOO, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF PU PROBABLY LESS THAN A HUNDRED. SO THE NUMBER ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY REAL LONG. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WHERE WERE WE? THAT ONE CONTINUE BUILDING ON THE YOU BELONG CAMPAIGN. MM-HMM . THINK WE'RE GOING GOOD. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE, THEY'LL BE REALLY LIKE THE LOGO. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE YOU BELONG CAMPAIGN? ANY OTHER PIECES THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT? BECAUSE WE CAN SET SO ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE WE'RE, IT YOU, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, ASSIGN A BUDGET FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR. MAYBE THAT'S WHEN WE SAY LET'S GET T-SHIRTS SO THAT WE CAN RECRUIT. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT. YEAH. WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET APPROVED FOR IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD IN THE, ON THE BUDGET REQUEST. AND YOU HAVE AND YOU HAVE, UH, FIVE, 1500 IN THE YEAH. ON THAT. YEAH. RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO, UM, NEXT ITEM. CONTINUE HAVING DEIB MEETINGS WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS. WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON A SUMMARY REPORT. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, DID YOU GIVE US AN OUTLINE FOR THAT? I CAN'T REMEMBER. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE SOMETHING WE WERE ALREADY DOING. SO AT THAT POINT WHEN WE STARTED THAT JACQUELINE, THE CHAIR WAS MEETING WITH A CITY MANAGER AND THE HR DEPARTMENT. BUT JUST LIKE, WE WANNA HAVE, MAYBE WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE USING AMBASSADORS TO SAY, HEY, THIS OUR AMBASSADOR FOR PARKS AND REC. 'CAUSE OUR AMBASSADOR FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD. UM, BUT OURSELVES ALSO AS COMMISSIONERS, WE CAN ATTEND ANY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MEETINGS. UM, SO THAT WE CAN SAY, WE CAN DO SOME, LEARN FROM THEM. WHAT ARE THEY STRUGGLING, HOW CAN WE BE OF VALUE? HOW CAN THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE DOING TO BRING MORE VOICES TO THE TABLE HELP THEIR EFFORTS AND THEIR PROGRAMS. UM, QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT. WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON A SUMMARY REPORT, BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO GATHER THAT, THAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND DO JUST APPLY A DIFFERENT LENS TO IT AND PROVIDE A REPORT. WE PUT WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE, WHAT HIS ASSIGN HIS TEAMS TO DO, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT REALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A SUMMARY REPORT OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED. UM, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD HELP US WITHAND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WHAT WE'RE PUTTING [01:15:01] TOGETHER IS VALUABLE. PUTTING IT TOGETHER, JUST HAVING A TEMPLATE FOR IT THAT WE CAN WORK WITH JAMES ON. BECAUSE WE'LL BE GETTING, HOPEFULLY WE DO THIS. WE'LL BE GETTING INFORMATION. YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOU, YOU HAVE CAN GET SEVERAL, YOU HAVE LIKE A GOOD LIKE 12 HOURS OF MY TIME LEFT. OKAY. OKAY. GOT, WE COULD DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF PROVIDE A TEMPLATE TO GUIDE US SO THAT IT'S VALUABLE AND NOT JUST MORE BUSY WORK. YEAH. UM, AND THE LAST ONE IS IMPLEMENTATION OF COMMISSION LEVEL BUDGET, TRUCKING CHECK. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR, YOU ACTUALLY INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT BUDGET TRACKER EXECUTE GETS TEAMWORK, Y'ALL. YEAH. I KIND OF RECOMMENDED IT. OH. AND YEAH, I WENT BACK, I'M GOING BACK TO THE ONE ABOUT, I'M SORRY, THE MEETING WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS. I LIST THE ONES THAT ARE PROBABLY HAVE A HIGH DIB IMPACT, PARKS AND RECREATION POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. THOSE ARE LIKE FOUR. LIKE GOT THE LIST OF LIKE MAJOR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SENIOR HEADS. MM-HMM . AND YOU KNOW, THOSE FOUR I COULD SEE OH, BEACH TO IT. YES. I JUST REALIZED HE WAS GONE TOO. MM-HMM . YOU NEED TO TAKE A, ARE YOU IN THE RESTROOM? BUT YOU WELCOME BACK. HE, ME TOO. HE'S FASTER THAN ME BECAUSE MY, THERE'S TWO OF THEM IN THERE HOBBLING WITH MY KNEE. ISN'T THERE JUST THIS ONE? NO, THERE'S TWO. THERE'S TWO. THERE'S ONE NEXT TO IT. OH MY GOD. YOU KNOW, MY, YOU KNOW THE BUILDING BETTER THAN WE DO. I'VE ONLY EVER LOOKED IN THE CENTER OF A WANDER. OKAY. START WATERING EVERYBODY'S OFFICE. A LITTLE TWO MINUTE BREAK. I HOPE NIKKI'S GONNA BE AT ONE OF THE TRAIN, UH, IS GONNA BE COMING TO THE SESSION TOMORROW EVENING FOR THE TRAINING. OH, I'M SURE. YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S FOR THE, ALL THE, YEAH. NEW COMM. THERE'S SO MANY NEW COMMISSIONERS AND NEW, UH, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. YEAH. IT SAID, YOU MEAN, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU A COUNCIL? I THINK I DID THE TRAINING TWO YEARS AGO. OKAY. BECAUSE SEE WHAT'S INTERESTING WHEN I WAS, HIS WHOLE HISTORY IS I CAME AND I DID TRAINING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL IS OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? YEAH. AND I SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE A DIB COMMISSION. YOU SHOULD CHALLENGE THEM TO BUILD A DIB STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THAT LED TO THIS TO THE NEXT YEAR WHERE I WAS BROUGHT IN TO HELP THE COMMISSION DEVELOP THAT. SO IT'S LIKE STARTED WITH TRAINING THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S GET SOME REAL MEAT YEAH. TO THE DIB COMMISSION. THAT WAS LIKE A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO. THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. AND I ALSO DID THE TRAINING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE A TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. SO PROBABLY CORINA MIGHT BE, MAYBE CORINA MIGHT BE ONLY, ONLY ONE WHO WAS THE . YEAH. UH, STAN, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. UHHUH , UH, THE EIGHTH EIGHTH, UH, WORKING WITH CITY MANAGER. IS IT SOMETHING THAT GOES FROM US TO THE CITY MANAGER OR SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM THE CITY MANAGER? BASICALLY IT COMES TO CITY MANAGER BECAUSE, UH, 3.1 IS HAVE THE CITY MANAGER REPORT OUT WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING. OKAY. DEIB WISE AND WHAT THEY PLAN TO ADD THE NEXT AND DO IT ONCE A YEAR. OKAY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH THE SCENE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE SENIOR STAFF LAST YEAR. I PROVIDED THEM A TRAINING ON DEIB AND YOU KNOW, AN ACTION ITEMS TO TAKE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO, TO EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THE SENIOR STAFF TO LOOK AT THEIR JOBS THROUGH A-D-E-I-B LENS, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I'M THE HEAD OF PARK AND RECS OR I'M THE HEAD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR WHETHER I'M THE HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, WHETHER I'M THE HEAD OF HR, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO MY JOB? TO, TO TO, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER THINGS THROUGH DEIB LENS. AND WE ALSO DID TRAINING. I DID TRAINING ON BIAS AND ALSO, UH, COMMUNICATION SKILLS. HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH DIVERSE PEOPLE. OKAY. SO THAT, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, UH, WORKING WITH. WE ARE GONNA WORK WITH YOU TO CREATE A TEMPLATE FOR RIGHT, RIGHT. TO GET, UH, THAT INFORMATION FROM THE CITY. YES. OKAY. WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN GO BACK TO THE TRAINING THAT I DID TO SEE WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS I MADE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE CERTAIN THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, DO EACH OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE, UH, DEIB ASPECTS OF THEIR OWN WORK PLAN? YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU BEEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S LIKE DATA AROUND RECRUITING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF FOCUSING ON EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DOING INCLUSIVE RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, DID THE, UH, THE THE HIRE, THE PEOPLE YOU'RE HIRING, DID THEY KIND OF REFLECT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF, OF THE CITY? OF THE CITY? SO, JUST TO GO BACK, 'CAUSE I DID MISS THE SUMO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EDC AND ALL THAT. I GUESS IT KIND OF FALLS INTO THAT PREVIEW I MOOD. I MADE A NOTE TO FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH, UM, CITY MANAGER CHAINS OR ABOUT ESTABLISH, HELP ESTABLISH SUPPLY DIVERSITY PROGRAM [01:20:01] TO BE DETERMINED. WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA CONTINUE THAT OR NOT. I THINK YOU STARTED KIND OF , KIND OF PUT THAT ONE MORE IN THE BACK BURNER COMPARED TO OTHER THINGS BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO LIKE, ENGAGE WITH, IS CHENEY STILL AROUND? YEAH, SHE'S STILL THE DIRECTOR. GOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE A MEETING WITH HER AND, AND TALK ABOUT ESTABLISHING A, UH, A LOT OF CITIES NOW DO THAT AS A BEST PRACTICE. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. UM, SO WE HAD ACTUALLY OUTLINED ALSO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. SO ONE INITIAL MEETING WITH PROCUREMENT TO REVIEW TRENDS. RIGHT. WE WORKED TO ASSIST IN SETTING A MORE FORMAL, LIKE FORMAL WORKING PROGRAM AND SEE WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO DO BUSINESS WITH HU TO INCLUDE SO RIGHT. POSTING YEAH. A GUIDE FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T EVER ENGAGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW. RIGHT. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, PEOPLE KIND OF JUST DO BUSINESS WITH THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YEAH. UH, AND PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH AND THAT THEY KNOW. AND SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE AN EQUAL FOOTING TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CHOOSE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW AND THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT KIND OF LOCKS PEOPLE OUT. SO KIND OF ESTABLISHING PROTOCOL FOR HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, DO THAT. AND THEN, AND THEN PROVIDING WAYS FOR ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO SUBMIT A BID TO THE CITY AND, AND GET ON AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD. MM-HMM . AND THAT WAS WHEN ALSO WENT INTO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS ITEM THREE ONE. THEY WANNA CONTINUE WITH, HAVE THE CITY MANAGER REPORT UP WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING, DIV WISE AND WHAT THEY . AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA PROVIDE. I'M GONNA CREATE A TEMPLATE FOR THAT. OKAY. AND KIND OF ALL GO TOGETHER. YEAH. MISSIONERS, THAT WOULD BE ME COORDINATE WITH, WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER. UM, OKAY. AND THEN FUNCTIONAL AREAS. SO YES. DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INCLUSIVE RECRUITING TEAM HAD QUESTION? YEP. WE ALREADY DID TRAINING. YEP. WE DID THE TRAINING. THAT WAS DONE. OKAY. WE DID THE TRAINING. NOW WE SAY, OKAY. HA HAS IT BEEN IT DEADLINE IT, IS IT DELIVERING RESULTS? YEAH. YEAH. WHEN W WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WAS THAT ONE DONE? LAST YEAR? YES. BECAUSE WE HAD APRIL, MAY, IT WAS HELD APRIL, 2020 FIRST AND MAY 1ST. OKAY. SO WE CAN HAVE A CHECK-IN ON THAT ONE YEAR. GIVE IT ONE GOOD YEAR. UM, UH, ONE THING, ANOTHER THING WE WROTE A QUESTION ON THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ON THE LIST, BUT WAS A QUESTION SAYS FEATURES HUDDLE. HUDDLE, SMALL BUSINESSES ON HUDDLE WEBSITE, PART OF A COMP PLAN COMMISSION CHAIR TO COMMS MANAGER. START AFTER PLAN ESTABLISHED IN QUARTER FOUR, THE FOURTH QUARTER. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, A NUMBER OF SMALL BUSINESSES STORES PER YEAR. THAT'S WHEN I ASKED YOU ABOUT YEAH. SPOTLIGHT AND THINGS LIKE, THERE WAS, AND I LEFT IT AS A QUESTION MARK. SO THE IDEA THAT WE HAD PUT IN THERE LAST YEAR IS TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES. UM, WHAT'S, WOULD IT BE PROPER TO DO, UM, LIKE A SPOTLIGHT OR COVER THEM? AND, AND THEN, UM, I HAD MENTIONED TO ABBY THAT THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, I, IT WAS LIKE CHAMBER MEAT OR SOMETHING, UM, WHERE THEY, WHERE I WAS APPROACHED ASKING WHY NOT EVERYBODY GOT THE SAME SPOTLIGHT THAT THE, THE AMY'S ICE CREAM HAD GOTTEN RECENTLY WITH THE CITY WAS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. AND SO THEY WONDER HOW DID THEY GET THEIR BUSINESS ON THERE? I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, I SAID, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M A, I'M A, I'M A ONE PERSON SHOW. UM, SO WHAT DID, WHAT WOULD, DID WE GET ANY DEFINITION IN, SO I TALKED TO MY TEAM ABOUT THIS, AND I MEAN, THE ANSWERS, WE DO IT REALLY KIND OF INFORMALLY, WHICH IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. SO WE DO NEED TO COME UP WITH KIND OF AN OFFICIAL POLICY. UM, IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK AS AN ADVERTISING. YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS ARE NOT FOR ADVERTISING BUSINESSES. WE'RE NOT REALLY LEGALLY ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE BUSINESSES. UM, BUT WE DO TRY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHEN NEW BUSINESSES OPEN IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO, BUT HOW WE DO THAT IS JUST IF WE BECOME AWARE OF IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT DOESN'T CATCH EVERYBODY. UM, WE TYPICALLY GET INVITED TO, UM, RIBBON CUTTINGS AND THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE CHAMBER. SO WE TRY TO COVER THOSE IF WE'RE AVAILABLE, BUT WE DON'T GET EVERYBODY. UM, SO WE DO GET A LOT OF, WE GET A LOT IN OUR DMS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASKING US TO COME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, POST ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. BUT WE CAN'T OPERATE THAT WAY. WE HAVE TO, OUR PURPOSES HAVE TO BE, UM, NOT ADVERTISING A BUSINESS, BUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHETHER IT'S OPENED OR UNLESS [01:25:01] IT'S SOME KIND OF SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY OR SOMETHING. BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL POLICY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT, WHICH IS HARD. FEW CITIES I'VE LIVED IN, THEY, THE CHAMBER, UM, THEY USUALLY HAVE LIKE A, UM, LIKE A MEMBERSHIP. RIGHT. AND THEN IF YOU'RE IN THE MEMBERSHIP, THEY LIST YOUR BUSINESS. RIGHT. ULTIMATELY THE ADVERTISING OF IT IS A CHAMBER. I'M A, I'M A CHAMBER MEMBER. YEAH. SO THEY DO THEY HAVE A PROGRAM. I KNOW CHAMBER'S PRETTY SIMILAR, BUT HOW DO YOU GET THE RIBBON CUTTING, GET THE, THE PROMOTION IN THE NEWSLETTER AND YOU GET A PRO, WE GET ONE PRO A YEAR IN THE NEWSLETTER THAT GETS WIDELY CIRCULATED. AND, UH, OF COURSE YOU'RE INVITED AND DISCOUNT ALL THE LUNCHEONS AND GOING, WE SPONSOR IN PARTICULAR LOT OF NETWORKING AGAIN LIKE THAT. AND HOW BUSINESS YOU, YOU GOING, YOU LEARN A FREE WORKSHOP BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT IS THERE LIKE A DIRECTORY? UM, YES. THEY HAVE A, A DIRECTORY OF ALL MEMBERS THAT YOU CAN FIND. YOU CAN ALSO OFFER MEMBER TO MEMBER DISCIP, THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. UM, SO OUR CHAMBERS, YEAH. REALLY, THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. LIKE THEY ARE, AND THIS IS ME SPEAKING AS A CHAMBER MEMBER, AND THAT THEY HAVE QUITE A BIT TO OFFER, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AS IT IS. YEAH. RIGHT? YEAH. TO ADDITION, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN PARK THAT WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS WORKING GROUP. YEAH. BECAUSE NOT EVERY SMALL BUSINESS IS GONNA BECOME A CHAMBER MEMBER. RIGHT. IT COULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE. THEY COULD JUST NOT KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW, TO KNOW TO JOIN. YEAH. A CHAMBER OF THE CHAMBER IS A GREAT RESOURCE. NOT EVERYBODY JOINS IT. BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENS TO THAT SMALL BUSINESS THEN? AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHERE THEY'RE SAYING, OH, WHY ISN'T THE HU CITY, YOU KNOW, HIGHLAND, WE'RE HERE AND IT'S NOT ONE, BUT IT'S JUST, THERE'S A PROPER WAY TO DO IT. YEAH. WELL, BUT, AND, BUT, BUT THEN MAYBE THAT'S THE QUESTION THOUGH, IS LIKE, SHOULD IT BE COST PROHIBITIVE? RIGHT? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE THE CHAMBER SET THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW. BUT YEAH, I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH. LIKE, LIKE THAT'S TO ME IS LIKE WE'RE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE INCLUSION, RIGHT? LIKE, WELL, DOES DEPEND THE PERSON, HOW DO THEY DEFINE COST PROHIBITIVE? SOME PEOPLE MIGHT FIND IT VERY AFFORDABLE, RIGHT? SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT. YEAH. SO , SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH, IS LIKE, THAT COULD BE AN ANGLE THAT WE LOOK AT IS LIKE, IS THERE ENOUGH INFORMATION GOING OUT ABOUT MAYBE THE BENEFITS, THE COSTS? IS THERE, ARE THERE REASONS WHY PEOPLE DON'T JOIN IT? RIGHT? LIKE, IF YOU'RE STARTING A BUSINESS, MAYBE YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE CASH OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD JUST BE AN EDUCATION THING, RIGHT? BECAUSE I PROBABLY WOULD'VE THOUGHT TOO, WITHOUT YOU EXPLAINING IT, LIKE, IF I'M A BUSINESS IN HU, WHY WOULDN'T YOU SHOUT ME OUT IF YOU WANT US TO SPEND OUR MONEY HERE? RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE TELL PEOPLE IS THAT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE CITY. IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE CHAMBER TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES IN MEADOW MM-HMM . UM, WE'RE REALLY JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW IF OUR AWARENESS, OF COURSE, BY, WE DO HAVE A BIG AUDIENCE. SO OF COURSE BY DEFAULT IT WORKS AS SOME SORT OF, UH, ADVERTISING. BUT WE CAN'T OUTRIGHT, UM, SAY, YOU KNOW, GO VISIT THIS BUSINESS. AND, AND IT WOULD ALSO, WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO KEEP UP. YOU KNOW, WHAT I, WHAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, JUST THINKING ABOUT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE OF TOURISM IN HUDU. RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SIT VERY NICELY UNDER THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. RIGHT. THEY WANNA SHOUT OUT ALL THE BUSINESSES TO ATTRACT TOURISM FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEND THEIR DOLLARS HERE. YEAH. YEAH. I, I JUST DID, I'LL SEND THIS TO YOU. I, I WAS, I DID A GOOGLE, LIKE KINDA CITY FEATURE LOCAL BUSINESSES ON ITS WEBSITE. AND THIS ARTICLE SAID YES, BUT MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T IMPLEMENT NEUTRAL POLICIES. WE DON'T SHOW FAVORITISM. MM-HMM . AND THEY SUGGEST SPOTLIGHT EVENTS AND TOURS. LIKE YOU MUNICIPAL WEBSITES OFTEN FEATURE LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH SPOTLIGHTS ON SPECIAL EVENTS, TOURISM OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES. MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND THEN ALSO WHEN, UH, WHEN WE MEET WITH THE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR THEM, LIKE HAVING A SMALL BUSINESS NETWORKING WHERE YOU INVITE BUSINESSES INTO A MEETING WITH EACH OTHER SO THEY CAN COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER AND SHARE THEIR RESOURCES. YEP. HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS DONATION DAY TO LOCAL NONPROFITS. MM-HMM . HAVE WORKSHOPS AND VARIOUS TOPICS ABOUT SUCCESSFULLY RUNNING A SMALL BUSINESS. MM-HMM . SO THERE'S THINGS THAT, THAT WE CAN DO AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ON OUR OWN. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE WORKING GROUP CAN HELP AS A CATALYST. MM-HMM . I MEAN, IT WILL CREATE SO MUCH BUZZ THAT THE CITY'S GONNA WANNA COVER IT YOU. AND YOU COULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A SUPPORT, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS DAY. RIGHT. IN HU WHICH I, A, A CITYWIDE FAN AND CITYWIDE EVENTS, SMALL SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BUSINESS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND ALL THIS LOCAL BUSINESS CAN HAVE LIKE, SPECIAL SALES AND MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE A BIG, LIKE A BIG, ALMOST LIKE A BIG FAIR. WE DO HAVE A SHOP SMALL SATURDAY. YEAH. UM, IN DECEMBER. BUT YEAH, AGAIN, WE CAN'T, THEY DON'T EXACTLY PROMOTE ANY ONE, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESSES [01:30:01] DOING. RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE JUST SAY MEAN TAKE THAT ONE OFF THE YEAH. OFF THE ACTION PLAN. IT'S REALLY HARD TO IMPLEMENT. YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE OFF. YEAH. WE TAKE THINGS OFF EVERY NOW AND THEN. NOT NECESSARILY PART OF OUR PURPOSE THAT JUST, WE DO ALSO HAVE, SORRY, UM, GAP IN OUR ABOUT IT NOW. UM, OUR, WE DO HAVE A BUSINESS RESOURCE SPECIALIST IN THAT WORKS IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. EMILY. YEAH. THAT'S ALSO KIND OF HER FUNCTION IS TO MEET WITH ANY BUSINESSES THAT COME TO HURO AND, AND SEE WHAT THEY NEED. UM, AND THEY HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS THEIR OWN FACEBOOK PAGES TOO. YEAH. UM, SO MAYBE SOMETHING THEY ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT BETTER. SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS TO GET, PARK IT UNDER SOMETHING THAT THE SMALL BUSINESS WORKING GROUP, WHICH I'M ALREADY PART OF ANYWAY, CAN TACKLE MM-HMM . WITH THAT'S HELP AND GUIDANCE. AND THEN WE, THE FIRST PLACE WE DO AS FAR AS A RESOURCE FOR US IS TO WORK WITH EMILY. YEAH. AND SEE WHAT, WHERE THAT GOES AND WHAT THAT CAN DO, UM, UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY, THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT RESOURCE. AND ALSO, UM, INFORMATION AND EDUCATION ABOUT THE CHAMBER FOR THOSE THAT MAYBE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VALUE. 'CAUSE ONE THING THAT I, UM, TALK A LOT ABOUT IS, CAN YOU AFFORD NOT TO? RIGHT. SO MAYBE PEOPLE JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF IT. RIGHT. AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, BUT JUST, IT'S AN INTER IT'S AN INTERESTING SLIDE NOW. 'CAUSE I'M KIND OF LYING TO MYSELF. WHAT? RALEIGH HAS A NONPROFIT CALLED SHOP LOCAL RALEIGH. MM. AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MADE SOME NASTY COMMENT ABOUT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. OH MY GOD. SO THE WHOLE THING BLEW UP AND PEOPLE ARE WITHDRAWING FROM IT. OH, WOW. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO THEY HAVE FORMED, PEOPLE NEED COALITION OF LIKE A GROUP AND THEN MAN. YEAH. SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TRAINING ON, YOU KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. DIP AVOID KEEPING HIS PERSONAL FEELINGS. I MEAN, HE COULD HAVE HEARD, SHE COULD HAVE KEPT HER PERSONAL FEELINGS IN THE INSIDE. NO, SHE WASN'T PUBLIC WITH IT. AND THEN ALL, NOW IT'S ALL THIS BACKLASH AND BACKLASH ON OH, YEAH. SOMETHING OUR FORMER CHAIRMAN, MS. JACKSON, ALWAYS TALK, TALK ABOUT WHEN GUIDING OUR CONVERSATIONS. YOU SAY YOU CAN CHANGE, YOU CAN'T CHANGE PEOPLE'S BELIEFS, BUT YOU CAN AFFECT THE ACTIONS. MM-HMM . RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. WELL, SEE, WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, EVEN WHEN YOU, WHEN I, WHEN YOU, WHEN I DO THE TRAINING, YOU'LL HEAR THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT CELEBRATING THE POSITIVES OF YOUR OWN DIVERSITY. AND YOU CAN DO THAT IN A WAY WHERE YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ANOTHER GROUP DOWN. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON CAN BRING TO THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE UNIQUE. YES. AND, UH, YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO OSTRACIZE OR SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANOTHER GROUP. THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF CROSS THE LINE. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR IDEAS AROUND, AND I'M TRYING TO TIE IT BACK TO ONE OF OUR IOS IT WAS, IT WAS NUMBER SIX. OR EDCI CAN'T READ FROM HERE. YEAH. IT WAS NUMBER SIX. OKAY. ANY MORE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS? AND ONE THAT DO COME ON HOLD IS THE, THE SUPPLIERS DIVERSITY PROGRAM WITH THE CITY MANAGERS AND WORKING ON ONGOING, ONGOING, DONE, DONE, SCHEDULED THESE ON TITLE CAMPAIGN. UM, HAVING CONTINUED TO MEET TWO TIMES, ONE FORUM TO MEET TWO TIMES PER YEAR. SO THIS WAS, WE PUT STAN, YOUR NAME ON HERE, SO ITEM ONE DASH FOUR, BECAUSE IT WASN'T PART OF THAT ONE. I PUT YOUR NAME ON IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. UM, ONE DASH FOUR SAYS DIB FORUM TO MEET TWO TIMES PER YEAR. OKAY. KICKOFF KEY STAFF LEADERS. YOU MAY HAVE TO TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT EARLIER. COUNCIL INTERFACES AND THE DIB COMMISSION AND B SECOND MEETING REPORT OUT ON PROGRESS. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S BASICALLY A COLLECTIVE MEETING OF, YOU KNOW, THIS GROUP AND THE CITY COUNCIL MM-HMM . AND, UH, AND, UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF BRINGING TOGETHER ALL THE PARTIES, LIKE IN A PUBLIC FORUM PER SE. MM-HMM. SO THIS WILL NOT WANNA, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN MAYBE DO IS MAYBE PUT THAT ON, UH, MAYBE SUGGEST WHERE WE START DOING THAT NEXT YEAR, AND I CAN PREPARE LIKE AN OUTLINE OF WHAT COULD BE COVERED, LIKE IN THAT MEETING. OKAY. IN TERMS OF WHO SHOULD BE INVITED. YEP. WHO, WHO SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THAT, BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU KIND OF HAVE A, IT IS KIND OF LIKE A, ALMOST LIKE A ALMOST WHAT YOU CALL LIKE A TOWN. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, A A, A TOWN MEETING WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING IN KEY STAFF, PEOPLE IN THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THIS COMMISSION TO, YOU KNOW, BRING ALL THE PARTIES TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEY INITIATIVES. PROGRESS. WE'RE DOING A LOT THIS YEAR. SO I THINK THAT PUTTING IT TO 2027 YEAH. MAYBE [01:35:01] MARCH OF 27 TO GIVE US A FULL YEAR. YEAH. AND LIKE A, JUST A BIG COMING TOGETHER AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE WELL ORGANIZED. AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE GET I CAN HELP IS I CAN HELP FIGURING OUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COVER IN THAT. WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD PRESENT WHAT AN OUTLINE. AND MAYBE EVEN, UM, I WANNA SAY NOT HIM SEE IT. . UM, YEAH. I COULD KIND OF LIKE MC IT, BUT WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? FACILITATE. FACILITATE. YEAH. FACILITATOR. YEAH. MAYBE ACT AS A FACILITATOR SO WE CAN ADD THAT. HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE? HAVING ALL, LIKE, MAYBE WHAT EVENTUALLY WOULD HAPPEN WOULD BE ONE REPRESENTATIVE OR TWO FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. YEAH. US AND CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. YEAH. ONCE A YEAR. ONE OR TWICE A YEAR WITH A GOOD MM-HMM. I THINK, BUT YEAH, I THINK TWICE A YEAR IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MUCH. RIGHT. I'D SAY EVEN A'S LIKE A CHECK-IN. YEAH. LIKE A CHECK-IN. LET'S DO THIS ONE. CE, LET'S DO IT ONE TIME A YEAR. YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GOOD DECISION TO KIND OF PUSH IT TO NEXT YEAR. YEAH. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING A LOT AND I DON'T WANNA GET STRETCHED TOO THIN AS A DEPARTMENT OR AS A COMMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE SAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT. WE NEED TO DO IT. RIGHT. LET KIND OF BUDGET TO IT. YEAH. I'M FOR ONE, FOR PRIORITIZING AND SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO, IF YOU HAVE AN ACTION PLAN OF 50 ITEMS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO 'EM ALL IN THE FIRST YEAR. RIGHT. AND SO, UM, YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY MY ONLY THOUGHT ON THAT. UM, I HAVE TO LEAVE. COULD YOU SEND ME YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY OVER TIME, BUT WE WENT, WE GOT, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON HERE. OH. BUT THEN WE HAVE THE ON THAT, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE REST OF THE AGENDA. YEAH. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON THIS. RIGHT. BUT THOSE BE QUICK, I THINK. UH, HOPEFULLY. SO WE'RE DONE WITH I'LL SEE TOMORROW THEN. YES. COOL. ITEM SEVEN POINT. I'LL GONNA BE A FUN SESSION. WE'RE DONE. AND THEN, THEN MOVING ON. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. GREAT MEETING. BUT, UH, THE MEETING'S STILL ON BY THE TIME I GET TO MY CAR. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 7.4. UH, DISCUSSION OF CITIZEN WORKERS REGARDING RECRUITMENT, PURPOSE, SUPPORT, AND TRAINING. SO WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT. I WAS ACTUALLY VERY SURPRISED AT HOW MANY TIMES I DID A LITTLE FACEBOOK POST. SO ABBY SENT OUT EMAILS TO EVERYBODY WHO MIGHT ALREADY REGISTERED. AND THEN I DID A COUPLE LITTLE FACEBOOK POSTS AND A LITTLE VIDEO THIS MORNING, UM, REALLY QUICKLY. AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SEE WHO YOU POSTED, BUT IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOTTEN REPOSTED A BUNCH OF TIMES WE SHARED. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. IT'S BEEN, UM, AND OF COURSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOCIAL LAST TIME IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. BUT DEFINITELY, UM, IN THE REMINDERS, SENDING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO RECRUIT THEIR FRIENDS, RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE INTO THOSE GROUPS THAT MIGHT RIGHT. UM, BE RELEVANT TO THEM. 'CAUSE WE REALLY, ONE THING WE STRESSED TO THEM WHEN WE MET WITH THEM IN THE SOCIAL GROUP IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA OWN THEIR WORKING GROUP. THIS IS NOT GONNA BE OWNED RIGHT BY US. WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT, PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND RESOURCES LIKE TRAINING AND ORIENTATION. MM-HMM . UM, BUT IT'S THEIRS. AND THEY'RE GONNA SET THEIR AGENDAS. THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. THEY'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COMMUNICATION CAN AND SHOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEY'LL HAVE AN ASSIGNED LIAISON FOR EACH GROUP. UM, AND WE ALREADY DID KICK OFF THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. WE DID THE SOCIAL LAST MONTH AT THAT. UM, THE ICE CREAM SHOP. LEMME CHECK. YEAH. HOW DID IT GO? IT WAS GOOD. WE HAD A GOOD TIME. UM, SAM GAVE US SOME KIND OF SOME IDEAS OF HOW TO WRITE IT. SO WE DIDN'T DO ANY DEEP WORK. YEAH. WE GET TO KNOW YOU GETTING TO KNOW YOU. AND WE PLAYED SOME GAMES ABOUT ASSIGNING SUPERPOWERS AND EVERYONE HAD A GOOD LAUGH ABOUT IT. IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY COOL. I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT WITH LEFT WITH REALLY GOOD SPIRITS AND EVERYONE GOT A SCUBA ICE CREAM AND A TREAT. SO THAT ACTUALLY ADDED TO THE PHONE. . YEAH. SO IT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT THE BUDGET WAS FOR THAT WE SET. UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD. AND PEOPLE LEFT WITH A LOT OF, UM, ENTHUSIASM. SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDED THAT INITIAL KICKOFF WILL, AND EVERYBODY'S THAT DID, SAID, WELL, THEY NEED, THEY, THEY KNEW AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERSON OR TWO, THEY WANTED TO BRING, LIKE THE LADY FROM THE RAAS TRAILER. SO SHE HAD A FRIEND WHO ALSO HAD A LITTLE VENDOR SHOP. SHE WANTED TO BRING HER FRIEND THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND WE HAD A COUPLE THAT WAS THERE AND THERE SAID, WE'RE GONNA BRING OUR ENTIRE LIKE, POKER GROUP. AND I SAID, OKAY. YEAH. WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO. SO IT WAS, IT WAS VERY WELL, UM, RECEIVED. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HELP HAVE GOOD ATTENDANCE AT BOTH SESSIONS, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ATTENDANCE YEAH. IN BOTH SESSIONS. I HOPE SO. ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE WORKING GROUPS? UH, 7.5 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROCLAMATION, SPONSORSHIPS. SO WE HAVE, WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING OUT? ANYTHING PRINT OUT OR NOT? NOPE. I DO NOT HAVE IT PRINTED OUT. THEN OPEN SCHEDULE. THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH YOU THINK WE ALREADY DID. LET'S SEE. PROCLAMATIONS. LET SEE, WE HAVE [01:40:01] THAT. DID WE EVER DECIDE ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE OLD ATIONS? YOU MEAN LIKE WHEN THE PRINTED ONES? YEAH. WELL, NO, GO AHEAD. I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING 'EM IN THE LIBRARY OR YES. I, THAT'S ON ME. THAT'S A, UM, I'VE MENTIONED IT TO OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR. WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD IT. I JUST KIND OF MENTIONED TO HER, WE WERE HAVING ACTUALLY A HUDDLE PUBLIC LIBRARY FRIEND MEETING. SO IT WAS UNRELATED TO THEIR AGENDA, BUT SHE AND I SAID, WE'RE GONNA SIT AND HAVE A MORE FOCUSED CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH IT. UM, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL THAT WE CAN, THEY'RE INTERESTED. WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE A SOLUTION THERE WHERE WE CAN HOUSE IT, ARCHIVE IT. I WOULD JUST KNOW WE HAVE CAME FOR IT. ACTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A DIGITAL, AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE A DIGITAL COPY OF THE PROCLAMATIONS. REMEMBER CHRISTIE HAD PROVIDED US A FORM, BUT IT WAS A PRINTED FORM. IF I HAVE A COPY, ACTUALLY NO, I DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME. THE ONES THAT WE HAD DONE BEFORE WOULD BE FOR APRIL. SO SOME OF THEM, I'M JUST DOING A SEARCH THAT COME UP ARE, UM, INFERTILITY AWARENESS, NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK. I THINK WE DID BECAUSE WE, THE RESOURCE FAIR IS COMING UP. MM. AT, UM, THE SAME TIME WE'RE TYING IT IN WITH THE SUNSET BLOCK PARTY. SUNSET BLOCK PARTY. CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE IS ON THAT? THAT'S IN MAY. THAT'S MAY, MM-HMM . SO NOT APRIL. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT, THE NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK IS APRIL 19TH THROUGH THE 25TH. WHAT MONTHS ARE YOU LOOKING AT? PARTICULARLY FOR APRIL. APRIL NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK, UH, PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS, WEEK AWARENESS MONTH, AND NEURODIVERSITY CELEBRATION. WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE. YOU GOT THOSE? OKAY. YEAH, WE WERE, WE ALREADY IS THAT, ISN'T THAT MARCH? NO, THAT'S APRIL. YEAH, MARCH. MARCH. MARCH IS WOMEN'S HISTORY. YEAH. WE DID THAT ONE. WE DID THAT ONE. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. YEAH. SO WE'RE COVERED FOR APRIL THEN. HEY, DID Y'ALL EVER DO ANYTHING WITH FUTURE APPRECIATION HERE? DO REMIND US. . I MEAN, IT'S COMING UP IN APRIL. OH, IT'S APRIL. UM, LET'S SEE. SEE, I'M OUT OF IT. I'M A PARENT. I FEEL BAD ABOUT IT. AND, AND I'M, I'M P TS A, UM, LET'S SEE. I JUST GET MY MONTH CROSSED. LET'S SEE, THAT'S IN APRIL. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE WE COULD, WHAT? WE COULD WAIT. I WISH WE WOULD STILL, WE HAVE WOULD BE THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL. OH, JUNE'S GONNA BE A FUN MONTH. IT'S USUALLY THE SAME WEEK AS NURSES APPRECIATION WEEK. WHAT? NURSES APPRECIATION WEEK. THEY'RE ALWAYS THE SAME WEEK. OH, JUNE. JUNE HAS TWO. UH, I CALL, UH, LIGHTNING RODS. L-G-B-T-Q AND NATIONAL IMMIGRANT. MM. HERITAGE ONE. THEY'RE BOTH IN JUNE. YEAH. FOR MEETING. GOSH. SO WE'RE GOOD FOR MARCH AND APRIL. SO FOR MAY, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA SPONSOR, YOU WANT FOR TEACHERS MAY I CAN, YES. THAT DAY THAT WE'RE JUST AS A CITY ACKNOWLEDGING, UM, THE ROLE OF EDUCATORS. YEAH. AND THEN ALSO THAT'S MAY IS ALSO ASIAN AMERICAN AND NATIVE AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER. SO WHAT ARE ALL, CAN WE GO BACK FROM THE TOP? WHAT ARE ALL THE ONES WE'RE DOING IN APRIL? UM, IT IS NEWER DIVERSITY. SOMEBODY'S ALREADY IS ALREADY DOING THAT. AND, UM, YES. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S READING IT. WAS THAT GONNA BE COMMISSIONER WILL? I DON'T WHO, WHO'S SPONSORING IT, BUT I KNOW THAT WE TALKED WITH CHRISTIE AT LENGTH ABOUT IT. UH, WE'LL HAVE TO WHEN I KNOW THE NOTES. OH, IN THE MINUTES I'VE SEEN. SO SEE, THAT WAS FOR, I BELIEVE, DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. OH, OKAY. WHICH IS LAST MONTH. OKAY. THAT ONE. AND WHAT'S THE ONES FOR MARCH THAT WE DOING? UH, WOMEN'S HISTORY. WOMEN'S HISTORY. YEAH. SO IN MARCH WE HAD WOMEN'S HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. MM-HMM . UM, BUT WE, I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED ANY THOUGHT WE HAD GONE INTO APRIL. MAYBE NOT APRIL. IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, SO YOU SAID TEACHER. YEAH, [01:45:01] I'LL DO THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN DO THAT ONE. WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. I THINK THAT'S COOL. WELL, WE SHOULD, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T. YEAH. I, I TEACH, BUT THAT'S ALL I YEAH. I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. SO I THINK WE THAT'S A GREAT ONE. AND IT'S, IT'S THE ONE WE HAVEN'T DONE, BUT I MEAN, I'LL SAY EVER. I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THAT LONG, BUT THAT WE'VE DONE. AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. THANKS. ALL OF US. ALL RIGHT. WE GOT APRIL. UM, DO Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT MAY? YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE SAME APRIL I THINK IT IS. APRIL IT IS. I'M ABOUT TO LOOK. THAT MAY. IT'S THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER MENTAL HEALTH. MENTAL HEALTH. MENTAL HEALTH TOO. MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS. IT IS OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK IS MAY THE FOURTH THROUGH MAY. OH, IT IS. MAY, OH, LATE IN THE YEAR. SO YOU GOT MAY FOR, FOR TEACHER APPRECIATION. YEAH. WELL, WE HAVE TO PRESENT, WILL WE PRESENT THAT AT THE MAY MEETING OR WOULD IT BE THE YEAH. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE AFTER TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEKS. AND WE ALWAYS DONE IT JUST FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S THAT MONTH, WHICH IS ACKNOWLEDGING YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. YEAH, BECAUSE THE MEETINGS, THE MEETING WILL PROBABLY BE AFTER THAT, BUT THAT'S FINE. SO ONE THAT, UM, YEAH. IS ON THERE FOR MAY IS OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. BUT WE CAN DO TEACHER PREP, APPRECIATION. WE CAN SUBMIT TWO. I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY GONNA GET APPROVED FOR ONE, PROBABLY. OR GET ONE READ THEY CAN BOTH GET SIGNED. BUT NOT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT BOTH WILL GET READ BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF TIME, UM, FOR THE, HOW MUCH TIME I SPENT ON PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY SPONSOR BOTH OLDER AMERICANS MONTH AND TEACHER APPRECIATION MONTH. AND SINCE I AM THE LIAISON FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS, I WILL SPONSOR THAT ONE IF WE DECIDE ON A SPONSOR FOR NEURODIVERSITY AWARENESS. NO. DO YOU WANNA SPONSOR ONE? THAT ONE? JAVI? I MEAN, JAVI VOTING? UM, THIS IS FOR MAY. UM, NO, IT'S APRIL. APRIL. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND THAT IS, UM, SO, AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 21ST. UM, SO ON THE RUNDOWN ON THE, UM, OPEN DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING ON APRIL 21ST, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PARKED ON THERE? ABBY? GIVE US A RECAP. YES. UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE LOGO. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN I THINK WHEN WILL, WHEN WILL THE, UH, ANALYSIS OF THE CITYWIDE SURVEY, WELL, THE SURVEY, RESULTS COMMISSION START LOOKING AT MM-HMM . YOU SAID NEXT WEEK AND I'LL LOOK AT IT. YEAH. SO I CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. OH, AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE CHECK-IN WITH THE, WE'LL HAVE KICKED OFF THE CITIZENS WORKING GROUPS, BUT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING RIGHT. AND SEE HOW THAT WENT. YEAH. HOW THEY'RE TRENDING, HOW THEY'RE GOING. UM, I'LL TRY TO INVITE A FEW PARTICIPANTS TO COME TO THE APRIL MEETING TOO, JUST TO GET THEIR FIRST TAKE. UM, TAKE, FIRST TAKE, TAKE IMPRESSIONS OF IT, HOW IT'S GOING. HAVE THEY BEEN MEETING, HAVE THEY STARTED MEETING? IF IT'S NOT MY SPECIFIC GROUP, UM, THERE WAS ONE MORE THAT I KNEW I DIDN'T. UM, UM, OH, WAS IT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, ADDING A YOUTH WORKING GROUP? YES. SO, UM, YEAH, JUST CONTINUE. SO PUT SOME, MAYBE SOME BULLET POINTS TOGETHER YEAH. OF WHAT YOU WANT THAT GROUP TO LOOK LIKE AND FORM. UM, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, WORK WITH THEM. YEAH. WE TRY SOME GUIDES TO YOU ACCOMPLISH, PROBABLY LOOK AT OTHER CITIES OR PEOPLE WORKING GROUPS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING. DOING, YEAH. KIND LIKE HOW WE CONNECT WITH SOMEBODY. WE CAN START LAYING THAT GROUNDWORK WITH YOU AND THEN WE, THEN, THEN THAT WAY IT'LL HELP INFORM WHAT TYPE OF BUDGET ARE WE GONNA NEED TO SUPPORT THAT INITIATIVE. YEAH. UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL. IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM [01:50:01] THE USUAL ASSESS, LIKE CAREER EXPLORATION, BUT ALSO DO SAVING WHATEVER IT IS. I, THAT'S REALLY COOL. SHE DOESN'T KNOW YET, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO GET HER OH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE HER ON THERE. MANY KIDS ON THERE. UM, LET'S SEE. I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL I HAD. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT. UPDATED. I BELONG. I'LL ACCESS THE CONTENT. OH, UM, THE GOOGLE DRIVE PROGRESS. YES. GETTING IT DONE AND, UM, OR SETTING IT UP AND SHARING IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED ARE IN THERE. UH, LET'S SEE. BUDGET REVISIT NEXT MEETING, BUDGET UPDATE. OH, AND, UH, FINAL GUIDELINES ON THE $200 FLOATING DOLLARS. YEAH. THAT WE CAN JUST USE THE, YOU LONG, JUST PUT A NOTE TO REVISIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, AND THEN THE OTHER GUIDE GUARDRAILS ON THE SURVEY. THE COMMIT LINK. YEAH. HAVING A SURVEY LINK ON THE WEBSITE. SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME GUIDELINES ON THAT. OUR FEEDBACK LINK. FEEDBACK LINK. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANNA DEFINITELY PARK ON OUR APRIL 21ST MEETING AGENDA THAT WE WANNA DEFINITELY DISCUSS? ANYBODY? NO. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. ALRIGHT. WELL IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7:58 PM AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STAN. YOU'RE THOROUGHLY WELCOME. I SAY, I THINK YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.