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[(EDC) Board Meeting/(CDC) Board Meeting on April 13, 2026.]
YEAH.I SHALL CALL THIS SESSION TO ORDER.
CITY OF HUDU, HUDU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING MONDAY, APRIL 13TH.
THE TIME IS NOW SIX THIRTY ONE.
WE, I'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DUE TO THE PUBLIC.
FOR RICHARD STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IS IVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR FLAG.
MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR. BRANDON DELEON.
GOT A THREE MINUTE TIMER FOR YOU, SIR.
UM, SO JUST REAL QUICK, ON THE JUSTICE CENTER, ON YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THE SITE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CO UM, SOME CONCERN THAT IT'S NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SOUND AND THE LIGHTS LATE AT NIGHT MIGHT BE A CONCERN AS WELL AS IT BEING, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE AGENDA PACKET.
I THINK IT BEING NEXT, SO CLOSE TO, UH, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SOME CONCERNS THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, AS WE START, UH, DOING DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT, UH, LOWER PRESSURE PLANE AT THAT BEGINNING OF THAT, I KNOW WATER AT MEGA MEADOWS THAT WATER PRESSURE HAS BEEN LOW, AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WATER PRESSURE IS NOT AN ISSUE AS WE DO DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I THINK THAT'S JUST IT, RIGHT? OKAY.
MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS 5.1, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PRESENTATION REGARDING A PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS GATEWAY.
UH, MY NAME IS DEREK POMPE AND I'M WITH KAPLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS ALONG WITH, UH, STEVEN WOLF, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROJECT, KNOWN AS THE GATEWAY HU AND WITH ME TONIGHT, WE HAVE JAKE STRUB FROM OUR TEAM, STEPHEN WOLF, AS WELL AS PATRICK BOURNE FROM SUNDANCE ANALYTICS.
UM, SO THE GATEWAY HU, UH, FOR THOSE ON COUNCIL, OR THOSE WHO'VE RECENTLY BEEN ATTENDING COUNCIL MEETINGS MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, FROM THE TWO WORKSHOPS WE DID LAST YEAR.
UM, BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, GATEWAY HU HIS PLAN IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ALONG THE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY, UH, AND CANYON ROAD 1 37, JUST ACROSS FROM THE BRUSHY CREEK AMPHITHEATER.
THERE'S THE SITE THERE JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN MM-HMM
AND SO AS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE GATEWAY IS PLANNED TO INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ALONG ITS PERIMETER, TWO MULTIFAMILY SITES, AND UPWARDS OF 600,000 FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ AND IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH STAFF.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? AND WHY, WHY AM I STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING THE EDC TO TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO TAKE ANY ACTION.
UM, HOWEVER, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR MAYOR, UH, WHO'S WRAPPING UP HIS GOLF TOURNAMENT RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT WE KEEP THE EDC IN THE LOOP ON OUR PROJECT, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, UH, WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT CAN BE A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER WITH ITS NEARLY 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, WHICH INCLUDES RETAIL OFFICE AND A HOTEL WITH A CONFERENCE CENTER.
AND WE'D LIKE TO BE TOP OF MIND, UH, WITH THE EDC AND IN THE COMMUNITY, AS
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WE WILL SOON BE LOOKING FOR QUALITY TENANTS AND USERS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.AND SECONDLY, WE ARE PURSUING A TOURS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT VIABLE AND WANNA KEEP THE EDC APPRISED OF THE ECONOMIC TOOLS USED TO DRIVE THIS PROJECT AHEAD.
AS I MENTIONED, WE PRESENTED TWICE LAST YEAR AT COUNCIL TO A WARM RECEPTION, INCLUDING THE CONCEPT OF OUR TOURS.
AND HOPE YOU'LL ECHO SOME OF THAT SAME SENTIMENT, BUT ALSO SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK, ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OUR DA AND VARIOUS ENTITLEMENTS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE RETAIL COMPONENT OF OUR SITE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN HERE, LOCATED FRONTING ALONG THE EAST WILCO HIGHWAY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT RETAIL PORTIONS, AN OFFICE SITE, AS WELL AS A HOTEL CONFERENCE SITE.
THIS TAKES A PEEK AT WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT LOOKS LIKE.
WE STRATEGICALLY PLACED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE OUTSIDE AS A TRANSITION FROM THE EXISTING EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS INTO MORE DENSITY AS WE MOVE TO CLOSER TO THAT RETAIL WITH SOME TOWN HOMES AND MULTIFAMILY.
AND THE PIECE THAT KIND OF HOLDS IT ALL TOGETHER IS THE OPEN SPACE THAT CONNECTS IT ALL.
WE'RE BLESSED WITH THE BEAUTIFUL LAKE THROUGHOUT THE CENTER.
AND SO OUR INTENT IS TO CONNECT EVERYBODY THROUGH WALKING TRAILS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LAKE VIEWS AND, UH, THE LITTLE BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY THAT WE HAVE THAT MAKES THIS SITE UNIQUE, UH, TO HUDU.
BUT THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT ALL THESE PIECES WORK TOGETHER, BOTH FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT AND AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT IN ORDER, I MEAN, EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE PHRASE ROOFTOPS BRING RETAIL.
AND SO WE NEED EVERY PIECE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT GO.
YOU KNOW, THE ROOFTOPS WILL BRING THE RETAIL, HAVING THE, THE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES WILL ASSIST WITH THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER AND ALL THOSE.
I MEAN, I HATE TO THROW OUT THE WORD SYNERGY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE REALITY, IS THEY ALL FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER.
AND SO WE THINK THAT IN ORDER TO UNLOCK THESE PIECES, KEEP TAX RATES REASONABLE, THAT A TOURS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THIS PIECE.
UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO PATRICK BOURNE OF SUNDANCE ANALYTICS, WHO IS OURT SPECIALIST TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED POINTS OF THE TOURS AND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT, UH, IN JUST A SECOND HERE.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I CAN ANSWER 'EM NOW OR AT THE END OF, UH, PATRICK'S, UM, PRESENTATION.
BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING, HEARING ME OUT SO FAR.
I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION.
AND, AND GOOD EVENING, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME TO ALLOW US TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.
I, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE PROPOSED TURS.
THE IDEA, THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO CREATE A TURS BOUNDARY, AND THAT ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE PROJECT, THE ENTIRE 270 ACRES THAT WOULD BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
ALTHOUGH THE GOAL WOULD BE TO CREATE THE TOURS AROUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THE INCREMENTAL REVENUE WOULD ONLY BE USED TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BENEFITING THAT COMMERCIAL PORTION.
SO INCREMENTS GENERATED BY RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL, BUT THOSE DOLLARS, THAT INCREMENT THAT WOULD BE RAISED WOULD BE USED TO FUND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS DIRECTLY BRINGING AND ATTRACTING THAT, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE PROJECT AND INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE WIDENING TURN LANES ON CR 1 37.
THE GOAL OF THIS IS WE'RE GONNA BY ANNING THE PROJECT INTO THE CITY, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THOSE TAX RATES AS LOW AS POSSIBLE ON THOSE COMMERCIAL TENANTS SO THAT WE CAN ATTRACT THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE, THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THIS PROJECT.
WE WANT QUALITY TENANTS IN THERE, WE WANT QUALITY COMMERCIAL.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THOSE PROPERTY TAX RATES COMPETITIVE, BRINGING IT INTO THE CITY ADDS A BURDEN TO THOSE PROPERTIES.
WE WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT BY USING SOME OF THAT INCREMENTAL, UM, REVENUE.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THIS, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, WE'D BE LOOKING TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF THAT INCREMENT GENERATED BY THE ENTIRE PROJECT BOUNDARIES.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE HERE, IF WE LOOK AT SOME
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OF THE KEY TERMS HERE, THE IDEA WOULD BE, AS I MENTIONED, TURS OVER THE 270 ACRES.WE WOULD, WE'RE PROPOSING A 35 YEAR TERM OF THE TURS WITH 50%, UM, PARTICIPATION, MEANING THAT THE CITY WOULD RETAIN 50% OF ALL THE INCREMENTAL REVENUE.
THE OTHER 50% WOULD BE USED FOR THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AFTER THE 35 YEAR TERM.
100% OF THAT INCREMENTAL REVENUE WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY.
UM, WE WOULD ALSO BE REQUESTING THE, THAT TURS BONDS BE ISSUED IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE ANY, UM, INTEREST PAYMENT BEING USED TO REIMBURSE THIS OVER TIME, KIND OF ACCELERATE THAT.
SOME OF THE KEY BENEFITS TO THE CITY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WOULD BE ANNEXATION OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CITY BOUNDARIES AND THAT TAX INCREMENT, THAT TAX REVENUE THAT'D BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, HE MENTIONED THE 600,000, UH, SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND THE SALES AND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH THAT.
UM, THAT RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL UNLOCKS THAT ABILITY TO BRING IN THE HOTEL AND ADDITIONAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAX REVENUES TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE CITY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN ANY THREE 80 AGREEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING AT A LATER DATE, DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF TENANTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT.
THE IDEA IS HERE, WE'D BE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS HAND IN HAND, THE ENTIRE PROCESS HERE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TENANTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AND TRYING TO STRUCTURE THIS.
YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE, UH, ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO THE CITY THAT ALL OF US CAN BE PROUD OF.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I, I SEE YOU'RE REFERRING TO A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT IN ADDITION.
UM, SO I, I DO SEE IN YOUR, IN, IN YOUR PROGRAM YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT FOR THE CIVIC USE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT IS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DETAILS AT THIS POINT.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THIS PROVIDES THAT ABILITY TO BRING IN A CONFERENCE CENTER, RIGHT.
BRING IN THESE TENANTS SO THAT WE CAN THEN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AT A FUTURE DATE.
BUT I'LL DEFER DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT? YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D MENTION IS THAT, UM, THE MAYOR, UNFORTUNATELY HE'S NOT HERE, HE HAD MENTIONED THAT HE FELT A NEED THERE WAS, OR THERE WAS A NEED FOR SOME CIVIC USE OF A CONFERENCE CENTER.
AND SO HE HAD PROPOSED TO US, HEY, LET'S STAY IN TOUCH.
LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A REALITY.
BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO THE CITY BEING ABLE TO USE THE CONFERENCE CENTER, WHETHER FOR EDC EVENTS OR EVEN JUST FOR, I, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT PROMS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD KEEP CIVIC FUNCTIONS IN THE CITY RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO TO ADJACENT CITIES.
UH, DO DO YOU HAVE ANY SCALING IDEA RIGHT NOW? JUST WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT? NOT JUST YET.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT COMPARABLE, UM, COMPARABLE HOTELS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TRYING TO RIGHTSIZE IT.
BUT AT THIS, LIKE, LIKE THE ONE IN SAN MARCO, FOR INSTANCE, THE THAT'S OF THEM, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WE'VE LOOKED AT.
I MEAN THERE'S, OR KALARI KALAHARI, EXACTLY.
AND SO REALLY IT'S A MATTER OF WE NEED TO FIND THE OPERATOR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO IT'S TRYING TO FIND, THREAD THAT NEEDLE OF WHAT WORKS TODAY, WHAT WORKS 20 YEARS FROM NOW, AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE, THERE IS, IF YOU HAVE A, A CIVIC CENTER, UM, THERE IS A METHOD BY WHICH YOU CAN MODIFY THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT CENTER.
AND SO THAT MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO ACTUALLY A THREE 80 AGREEMENT IN THAT, THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE, ARE COLLECTED BY THE HOTELS AND, AND THEN ARE EXPENDED BY PERCENTAGE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT CON CONFERENCE CENTER.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING SALES TAX OR, OR SALES TAX.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A DEDICATED, UM, IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF CENTS THAT YOU CAN ADD TO YOUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, UM, IN ORDER TO FUND A CONFERENCE CENTER IF IT MEETS THAT CIVIC CENTER STANDARD.
AND THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PROGRAM WE LIKE TO EXPLORE AND GET OFF THE GROUND IF WE CAN GET TO THAT NEXT STEP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY MOVE ON? ARE Y'ALL ABLE TO TALK TO THE TIMING OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHICH COMPONENTS ARE ANTICIPATED AT WHAT POINT IN TIME AS WELL? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL FOR CONTEXT? SURE.
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I DEFER TO YOU ON THE DEVELOPMENT ASPECT.UM, I'LL GIVE, I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET THE CRYSTAL BALL OUT, UM, AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE.
I THINK, I THINK RIGHT NOW THE MOST VIABLE PIECES WOULD BE SOME RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO FINISH OUR ENTITLEMENTS, OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GET OUR LAND USES IN.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A PROCESS TO GET OUR CIVIL CONSTRUCTION PLANS IN PLACE.
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UTILITY WORK THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED TO, TO GET THIS, THIS PROJECT OFF THE GROUND.
SO I WOULD SAY BEST CASE SCENARIO, A GROUNDBREAKING WOULD BE 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
UM, JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT GOES INTO IT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE MORE INTEREST WE HAVE FROM THOSE RETAIL USERS, I, I THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL REALLY MOVE THINGS ALONG QUICKER.
SO YOU SAID 12 TO 18 MONTHS? YEAH.
A QUESTION, UM, AGAIN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PHASES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO IN NECESSARY DETAIL.
SO HAVE YOU NOT RECEIVED, BUT HAVE YOU SECURED ALL THE FUNDING THAT YOU NEEDED IN THESE EARLY PHASES? NO, NOT YET.
I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE SUCH AN EARLY STAGE, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, THE PRO THE PROJECT'S STILL IN THE COUNTY, UM, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO UNTIL WE HAVE LAND USES, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GO OUT.
TO SECURE YOUR FINANCING IS RIGHT, IS THE SHORT ANSWER.
YOU KNOW, WE FIELD CALLS WEEKLY, I WOULD SAY, FROM DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE SITE.
AND I JUST TELL 'EM, I'LL KEEP YOUR NAME AND NUMBER, BUT FOR NOW, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO SELL YOU OTHER THAN, UH, THIS VISION THAT WE'RE PURSUING.
BUT UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DONE, UM, THE, THE TIMELINE'S A LITTLE MURKY AS YOU SAW MY ANSWER HERE.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A LITTLES A LITTLE TOUGH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY MOVE ON? OKAY.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, THE TENANTS, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TYPES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ALL ACROSS THE BOARD? UM, I MEAN, I GUESS I COULD TELL YOU MAYBE WHAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, I FIELD CALLS FROM A, A GAS STATION WHO WOULD LOVE TO GO ON THE CORNER THERE, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE AFTER.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME ON THE NORTH SIDE.
TO ME, THE WAY THAT LAYS OUT IS PERFECT FOR SOME RESTAURANTS AND SOME RETAIL THERE FOR SMALLER FOOTPRINT COULD BE LOCAL OR REGIONAL TYPE USERS.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SPACE.
AND SO WE COULD MAYBE HAVE MORE OF A REGIONAL CENTER THERE.
UM, BUT AT THIS, AT THIS STAGE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO, TO PREDICT THAT FUTURE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING A GROCER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AGAIN, UNTIL WE CAN GET A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE PROCESS WITH OUR LAND USE APPROVALS.
IT MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO PROMISE ANYTHING TO A TENANT OR A FUTURE USER ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
BUT IT'S GOOD TO START THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A SURVEY, WE CONDUCTED A SURVEY OF WHAT PEOPLE IN HU WANT AND WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO LOOK AT AND ABSOLUTELY.
AND ALSO, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY OVERLAP, THAT THAT'S STILL STRATEGIC.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, IS AS PEOPLE COME OR COMING TO YOU LOOKING FOR PLACES, WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THIS.
AND WE'D LOVE TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE OPEN WITH YOU TO WHERE WE CAN SHARE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE RECEIVING AND THEN YOU CAN SHARE WITH US WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF SPACE AND LOCATION.
AND THEN ONE LAST THING IS THAT, UH, WE ATTENDED THE ICSC CONFERENCE LAST YEAR AND WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HOW THEY WERE TRYING TO ALSO TAP INTO THE HISTORIC, UH, IMAGE OF THOSE CITIES.
AND THAT DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THIS PART OF TEXAS AND THIS IN THIS CITY AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAME FROM AND WHERE WE WANNA GO.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE ALL OF THAT BEING THAT YOU'RE STILL AT THE, UH, EARLY STAGES, THAT THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
'CAUSE THEN HUDA COULD BECOME QUITE UNIQUE IN THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ABOUT, IS COMING UP WITH COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT RESPECT HUDA'S HISTORY AND ITS CHARACTER.
AND SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEVELOPING THOSE STANDARDS TO COME UP WITH A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT ALSO, RIGHT.
WE DON'T WANT COOKIE CUTTER, RIGHT.
WE DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE ROUND ROCK.
WE DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE GEORGETOWN.
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LIKE HU BUT BUT ALSO CAN WORK FOR THE WHOLE SITE.THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY VERY GLAD THAT THE MAYOR SUGGESTED YOU, UM, BRING THIS TO US BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS INTERSECTION IS A HUGE CURIOSITY POINT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ALL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
AND, UM, EVENTUALLY THIS IS GONNA BE THE WAY EVERYBODY GETS TO TAILOR AND IT'S JUST A HUGE, UM, GATEWAY IS THE PERFECT NAME FOR IT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE TWO.
BOARD MEMBER SNYDER HAS ENTERED AT 6 52 WITH SOME SUN
ITEM FIVE TWO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL SITE SELECTION FOR THE FUTURE HU JUSTICE CENTER.
MR. AMSLER, GOOD EVENING, UH, HU.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UH, MY NAME IS DAVID AMER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
TONIGHT I AM HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, SOME UPDATES THAT ARE, UH, HAPPENING WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE, THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE JUSTICE CENTER JUSTICE CENTER IS PROPOSED TO BE.
AS WELL AS, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DO HAVE, UM, JESSICA AND I MALTER I JUST FORGOT YOUR LAST NAME, UH, JESSICA MALTER UH, FROM B-B-P-B-K ARCHITECTS, UH, TO ANSWER ANY ARCHITECTURAL QUESTIONS OR DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER, UH, BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD.
I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE UNORTHODOX, BUT I I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M THOROUGH TONIGHT.
UM, WAS THE AGENDA INFORMATION REPORT ATTACHED IN THE PRESENTATIONS? 'CAUSE SOMETIMES IF IT'S A PRESENTATION THAT DOESN'T GO INTO YOUR PACKET, SO, OKAY.
SO THIS IS, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING THE, UH, COTTONWOOD SITE IN ITS TOTAL EXISTENCE.
I THOUGHT IT PRUDENT TO INCLUDE THIS, UH, SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHICH AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THIS SITE, UH, NEXT TO LIMMER AND COUNTY ROAD 1 32, ARE THE POTENTIAL PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING OUT THERE FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER LOCATION.
AND HOW THAT LOOKS IN A, IN A ZOOMED IN FORMAT IS HERE.
SO YOU HAVE PARCEL 11, PARCEL 12, 16, AND 15 ALL, UH, AS LOCATIONS THAT CITY STAFF AND PBK HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AS POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THIS AS WELL.
AS YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PHOTO, UH, IT HAS PARCEL 11, UH, LISTED AS THE, UH, LOCATION FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.
THAT, UH, PHOTO COMES FROM AN ORIGINAL, UM, EARLY STAGES PLANNING, UH, WITH OUR, UH, PLANNING, UH, SURVEYOR, UH, BSW BRINKLEY SERGEANT WEST, OR YEAH, BRINKLEY SERGEANT WEST.
AND THEY, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNSEL TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF THEIR SCOPE OF WORK, A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WHICH WAS OVER BY PARCEL 16.
AT THAT TIME, UH, STAFF SHOULD HAVE CAME TO THE HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BEFORE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT CHANGE AS THIS IS TECHNICALLY, WELL, THIS IS LITERALLY LAND THAT THE EDC OWNS.
SO THIS IS US ATTEMPTING TO RECTIFY THAT AND ALLOW THE, UH, CORPORATION TO FINALIZE A DECISION ON A PARCEL.
THIS SHOWS A, UH, POWER EASEMENT THAT, UH, GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PARCELS THERE.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS, UM, SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE JUSTICE CENTER COULD LOOK LIKE ON PARCEL 15 AND PARCEL 16.
UH, THEY'RE KIND OF INVERSES OF EACH OTHER.
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, CURRENTLY THE PREFERRED, I BELIEVE,
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LOCATION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER.AND YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT IN THE NORTH SIDE, THAT ROAD THAT'S LABELED NEW ROAD, THAT THAT IS A ROAD THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH CITY DEVELOPER OR UH, EDC.
THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED, BUT THERE, THERE WOULD BE A NEED FOR A ROAD TO BE CONSTRUCTED THERE.
AND THEN IN PHASE ONE B TO HAVE THAT ROAD CONNECT ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO LIMMER LOOP.
AND THEN HERE IS, UM, PHASE TWO, WHICH WHICH ADDS ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKING, UH, TRAINING FACILITY.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE HERE THERE HAVE BEEN TALKS OF COURTHOUSE, UH, POTENTIALLY BEING AN ADDITIONAL PHASE, NOT THIS, THIS ORIGINAL PHASE THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR RIGHT NOW.
SO THE CURRENT DIRECTION IS, IS THERE IS A, A LARGE SPACE, UH, THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT OR FITTED OUT FOR A POTENTIAL FUTURE DISPATCH CENTER FOR THE CITY OF HU.
HOWEVER, IN THE INTERIM, WHEN THERE IS NOT A COURTHOUSE, IT WOULD BE DESIGNED SO THAT COURT CAN TAKE PLACE IN THAT, IN THAT SAME SPACE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW, UH, WITH THE COURTHOUSE ON WHAT THE FULL, UH, FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND, AND WHERE THE PLANNED BUILDINGS ARE.
AND THEN THIS IS A, UH, NORTHWEST AERIAL VIEW OF, OF WHAT THE COURTHOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND IF I GO BACK HERE, 'CAUSE I KIND OF SKIPPED OVER IT, I DON'T, THERE IT IS.
UH, WHEN DISCUSSING WITH PBK, WE STAFF MENTIONED, HEY, THESE WERE ORIGINALLY ON 11 AND 12, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VIABILITY OF KEEPING IT ON 11 AND 12.
UH, BUT WHAT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR FOR THE CURRENT SITE IS, UH, A RE RECONFIGURATION OF ME LANE, UM, BEFORE THEY WERE ABLE TO REALISTICALLY BUILD, UH, THE JUSTICE CENTER IN THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED IN THOSE TWO PARCELS.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, AT THIS JUNCTURE IS STAFF, UM, CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE BETWEEN VIABLE SITES.
UH, BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE THE OPERATIONAL AND TIMING ADVANTAGES ASSOCIATED WITH MINIMIZING, UH, THE REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS THE ROAD.
UM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, SITES THAT ALLOW IMMEDIATE ACCESS AND DO NOT REQUIRE ROADWAY REALIGNMENT OR SIGNIFICANT PRE-CONSTRUCTION INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PRESENT A MORE EFFICIENT PATH FORWARD AND REDUCE, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECT DELAYS.
UH, IN ADDITION, THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THAT PARCELS 11 AND 12 REPRESENT A MORE COMMERCIALLY ADVANTAGEOUS LOCATION WITHIN THE ENTIRETY COTTONWOOD CORRIDOR.
UH, SO PRESERVING THESE SITES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MAY BETTER SUPPORT LONG-TERM SALES TAX GENERATION AND ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE IS NOT, UH, A STRONG POSITION OTHER THAN THE REASONS MENTIONED THERE ON WHICH PARCEL IT NEEDS TO BE.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT PBK, UH, IS NEEDING, UH, TO CONTINUE PLANNING IS A, A FINAL LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN, UM, GEOTECH SURVEYING AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, IN THE NEXT STEPS.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS JESSICA.
UH, SO DAVID, SO IF I'M HEARING THIS RIGHT, SO WE LIKE PARCELS, UH, 15 OR 16, I GUESS PREFERABLY 16 MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE, THE MEGA LANE AND THE TIMING OF THAT.
IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THAT'S CORRECT.
I, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING WITH THE EASEMENT AS WELL, THE POWER EASEMENT.
OH, I THINK IT WAS JUST VACATING THE EASEMENTS THAT, UM,
DAVID, CAN YOU CONFIRM REAL QUICK? 'CAUSE YOU'RE THE, UM, A IR SAYS SITE 15? YES.
SO, SO I, I NOTICED THAT THAT WAS A, A MISTAKE AS WELL.
SO SITE 15 OR PARCEL 15, THE, THE NORTHERN MOST PARCEL IS TECHNICALLY THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE IT, IT, IT IS RIGHT AGAINST SLIMMER AS WELL.
SO, SO IT GIVES YOU, UH, MORE OPTIONS TO ENTER AND EXIT THE JUSTICE CENTER, UM, THAN THAN 16.
BUT 16 IS, IS A PERFECTLY VIABLE OPTION AS WELL.
OH, SO THE SIXTEEN'S NOT NECESSARILY PREFERRED, THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU
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SHOWED.I WAS GONNA SAY ONE MORE THING.
SO I DON'T, I'LL JUST THINK OUT LOUD.
I UNDERSTAND THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF BEING RIGHT THERE ON 1 32, UM, WITH MORE DIRECT ACCESS OFF 79, BUT, UM, JUST WHERE I'M SITTING RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, 11 AND 12 SEEM BETTER TO ME BECAUSE YOU'RE ACROSS FROM SAY THAT AS A HOSPITAL, UM, TO ME THE POLICE WOULD HAVE A LOT EASIER ACCESS TO GET IN AND OUT OFF OF MER AND 1 32 FROM 11 AND 12.
UM, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TIMING OF MELINK? DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMING ON MOVING THAT, IS THAT KIND OF LIKE UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW? IS THAT THE CRYSTAL BALL ONE TOO? IT IS A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TIMING OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THE JUSTICE CENTER ENDS UP, THAT WILL INFORM THE TIMELINE FOR MER AS WILL ANY PENDING, UM, HOSPITAL OR MEDICAL USE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MER.
IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE TIMING, BUT MER LANE REALIGNMENT AND RECONSTRUCTION IS ON THE MASTER MOBILITY PLAN.
SO THAT IS PLANNED TO OCCUR REGARDLESS.
SO IT'S JUST REALLY THE TIMING WILL BE TRIGGERED BY THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF, IF WE, IF WE OR COUNSELOR WHOEVER DECIDE THAT ON THE ME LANE, IF THAT GOT MOVED QUICKER, WOULD THAT HAVE A A, A BETTER RESULT FOR THE PROPOSED HOSPITAL MEDICAL OFFICE AREAS? WOULD THAT HELP SPEED THAT UP? LIKELY.
SO AS WE KNOW, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE BRINGS DEVELOPMENT SO THE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE SET UP, SUCH AS ROADS AND ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UTILITIES, UH, IT ALWAYS MAKES A SITE MORE ATTRACTIVE AND EASIER TO MOVE FORWARD ON 'CAUSE IT'S LESS THINGS THAT THAT POTENTIAL TENANT NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF.
OH, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, WELL, I MEAN 11 AND 12 I JUST THINK ARE, AND IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER.
AND, AND LOOKING ON YOUR SUMMARY REQUEST ON PAGE FOUR, IT'S THE LAR SITE 15 IS THE LARGEST WITH THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY.
AND YOU ALSO WANTED THE LONGEST FRONTAGE ROAD ON AN EXISTING ROADWAY WITH IT SAYS TWO ACCESS POINTS, BUT THE, UM, IF WE DID THE UH, S 15, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE ACCESS POINTS, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ACCESS POINTS.
THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT IT, BESIDE IT BEING THE LARGEST AS WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S FURTHEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IN THAT, THAT CLOSEST TO THAT CORNER OF THE DETENTION POND.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PUTS A, AND THEN ABOVE THAT IS JUST A PARKING LOT.
AND THEN BELOW THAT WHERE WHERE IT SAYS FUTURE TRAINING AREA, THERE'S A LARGE BUFFER BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE BACKS OF THOSE HOMES ARE THE SIDES OF THOSE HOMES AS OPPOSED TO UH, 16, WHICH EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH ABUTS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LESS HOMES AFFECTED, BUT MY FIRST THOUGHT IS LARGER AREA, MORE EGRESS POINTS, LARGER OR GREATER DEPTH OF BUFFERING TO EXISTING HOUSEHOLDS.
AND UH, IT'S ON LIMMER VERSUS BEING ON MER.
SO, AND I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE LIMMER EXPANSION, BUT I WOULD THINK LIMMER, SINCE IT'S A MAJOR EAST, WEST, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL THOSE, THE COLLECTORS AND THINGS, I MEAN, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A BIGGER ROAD IN THE FUTURE AT SOMETIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING IS AS OPPOSED TO MER SO JUST OFF THOSE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU HAVE ON FLIGHT 15 PREFERRED, I KINDA LIKE THAT AS WELL.
I MEAN JUST, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT A VOTE, BUT I LIKE THAT PREFERRED, BUT, BUT BY THE POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP ON YOUR, YOUR SUMMARY, SO THANK YOU
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE I CAN COME UP WITH MORE MOVE FORWARD? OH YEAH, WE, YEAH, I DIDN'T BRING THE BELL, JILL.
I HAVE QUESTIONS BUT IT'S A LITTLE EARLIER.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT, UM, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT DETENTION AND THEN, BECAUSE I THINK ON THE NEIGHBORING SITES THERE, THERE WAS A ROUGH PLAN FOR SOME, I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME LARGER DETENTION OVER THERE.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE DETENTION IS SO SMALL, UM, FOR THE SITE.
BUT MAYBE I'M OVERTHINKING IT, IS THAT THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT AT THE BOTTOM AND THEN A LITTLE ON THE, I CAN'T SAY WESTERN BORDER.
I'M, UH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY TO HAVE THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW, BUT I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS LOCATION BECAUSE AS FAR AS ACCESS IS CONCERNED, COMING FROM THE LI LOOP SIDE SEEMS A LOT LESS STRESSFUL THAN COMING FROM THE 79 SIDE OR YOU KNOW, FROM THE SOUTH OF THAT TO ME.
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ALL, THAT WAS MY ONLY INPUT.I I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, THE SOUND CONCERN WITH IT BEING RIGHT NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WE, WE THINK THAT'S A, A REASONABLE CONCERN AND SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS BEEN TALKING THROUGH ON, UH, WHAT SOUND MITIGATION TOOLS ARE WE GOING TO BE USING AND, AND WE WILL BE USING SOME, BUT, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UH, THE POLICE VEHICLES ARE NOT TYPICALLY RUNNING THEIR SIRENS INSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO A QUICK CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WORKING BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE SITE, BUT THAT THERE'S NOT, IT'S NOT SIMILAR TO A FIRE HYDRANT LEAVING OR, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A QUICK BEEP AND THEN, AND THEN THEY MOVE ON.
AND TO OUR RECOLLECTION, CURRENTLY THE JUSTICE CENTER IS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEIR CURRENT STATION IS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVE ABOUT SOUND TODAY.
IS THAT THE ONLY SOUND CONCERN OR THE SIRENS? THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY FOR, FOR GENUINE SOUND CONCERN.
SO THIS LOCATION, I'M JUST CURIOUS, IT HAS A AN AREA FOR PRISONERS FOR JAIL? NO, WE, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A HOLDING CENTER OR DETENTION CENTER HERE IN HU COUNTY.
YEAH, WE, WE TAKE EVERYONE TO WILLIAMSON ON, ON THE, AS FAR AS SOUND MITIGATION, THAT THAT WHOLE, YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF, IT'S LIKE THERE'S AN UPPER PORTION AND THEN IT NARROWS TO THAT LOWER PORTION.
ARE THERE ANY MEDIC SOUND MEDICATIONS LIKE EITHER SOLID CINDER BLACK WALLS WITH, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 20 FEET TALL TREES AND VEGETATION YOU MIND ANSWERING LANDSCAPING? 'CAUSE THOSE WOULD ALL HELP ON THE SOUND SOUND MITIGATION QUESTION.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THOSE AS WELL AND AS, AS WELL WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT, WITH YOUR, YOUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR SOLID MASONRY WALLS, UM, TO NOT JUST PROVIDE PRIVACY BUT ALSO SOUND MITIGATION.
UM, AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ABOUT EIGHT FEET TALL.
UM, WE CAN LOOK AT OTHERS, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN REVIEWING, UM, SOME DRAFT GUIDELINES THAT YOU HAVE, UM, IN YOUR CITY NOW FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODES AND THERE'S A, A MUCH LARGER BUFFER NOW REQUIRED BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AS WELL TO, UM, HAVE PLANTINGS AND OTHER YEAH.
YOU KNOW, ITEMS BETWEEN THE TWO.
YEAH, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT TO OUT TO 10 FOOT MM-HMM
SOLID WALL AND THEN TREES THAT ARE PRUNED HIGH.
SO THEY'RE GOING FROM EIGHT TO 15, EIGHT TO 20 FEET MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, IN THREE TO FIVE YEAR MATURITY.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A NICE VISUAL BARRIER AND IT'S AS WELL AS A, A SOUND BARRIER AND UH, I THINK IT WOULD SEPARATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I THINK THAT, I MEAN I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OF THESE NEIGHBORS, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD LIKE THAT TO SEE THAT TREE LINE OF SOME TALL NARROW TREES.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OUTBUILDINGS, UM, USING THEM AS BUFFERING AS WELL.
SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE SOME SOLID THERE THAT IS ALSO BUILDING.
I MEAN THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THIS CHUNK UP HERE WAS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES AND THEN MEDICAL SLASH HOSPITAL.
SO FOR ME, THIS ACTUALLY ENDS UP BEING BETTER FOR THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THEM AND THE HOSPITAL WHERE YOU HAVE AN ER AND THEY WILL BE RUNNING THEIR SIRENS IN THERE ALL THE WAY TO THE DOOR.
SO I MEAN THEY MAY NOT ON THE, YOU KNOW, UM, CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER SITE.
UM, SO IT ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP THE RESIDENTS MORE THAN, UM, BECAUSE IF WE HAD PUT TOWN HOMES THERE INSTEAD, THEN WE WOULD HAVE CERTAINLY RESIDENTIAL BACKING UP TO A VERY NOISY, UM, PARCEL WITH THE HOSPITAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I KNOW, I HOPE YOU GUYS DIDN'T THINK I WAS FREAKING OUT WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT.
I THINK IN AN EMAIL THAT, HEY, THIS STILL WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE THIS IS GONNA GO.
WE NEED TO GO TO EDC JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, FOR SOME REASON WE DON'T VOTE AGAINST IT AND 15 IS THE PREFERRED.
AND SO I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.
IN FACT, UM, AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, WHEN I FIRST STARTED SEEING THIS UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, YOU MADE MENTION TO IT, AND I'VE BEEN OPERATING A BUSINESS NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION NOW AND THE ONLY TIME I HEAR LIGHTS AND SIRENS IS WHEN THEY'RE ON 79 AND WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY BACK RIGHT UP.
SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING FROM A PERCEPTION STANDPOINT MM-HMM
THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, UM, QUESTION.
I ALSO THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF CRIME, BUT HAVING A POLICE STATION NEXT DOOR, THERE'S A LOT LESS THAT GOES ON AROUND OUR POLICE STATION THAN MAYBE WOULD HAPPEN IN OTHER PLACES BECAUSE THERE ARE POLICE COMING AND GOING, THEY'RE PARKING AND ALL THAT.
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I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IF THERE'S A CONCERN, I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THAT IN TERMS OF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING.I DO THINK LIKE THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AS THIS GOES INTO DESIGN WITH OUR CODE, I THINK THE COUNCIL'S PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO ANY USE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, HOW TO MITIGATE THAT.
AND I ALSO THINK AN EIGHT FOOT WOULD BE GREAT FOR SECURITY OF THE POLICE STATION BECAUSE AGAIN, NOT THAT WE HAVE ISSUES NOW, BUT AS WE GET TO BE BIGGER, I WOULD IMAGINE OUR CHANCES OF ISSUES, UM, WOULD RISE, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE COURT.
I ALSO LIKE A LONG LIMBER LOOP BECAUSE WHEN IT'S ON MER, AND, AND THIS IS A QUESTION I GOT FOR YOU CHIEF SINCE YOU'RE HERE, UM, HATE TO HATE TO HAVE YOU GET ALL DRESSED UP AND
BUT, UM, PERSONALLY I LIKE 11 AND 12 'CAUSE IT'S OFF 1 32.
BUT THEN I STARTED THINKING, WELL THEY REALLY DON'T, YOU REALLY DON'T SEE 'EM RUNNING HOT OUT OF A POLICE STATION.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY OUT THERE SO IT'S NOT LIKE A FIRE STATION WHERE THEY'RE AT THE STATION WAITING FOR A CALL AND THEY COME OUT.
SO THEN I THOUGHT, WELL THEN THAT DOES MAKE SENSE TO FREE UP 11 AND 12 FOR A COMMERCIAL AND TUCK IT BACK A LITTLE BIT AS LONG AS FOR ME, I THINK IT'S, UH, AND REASON I THINK LIMMER IS BETTER THAN MER IS WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE HOW TO GET TO THE COURT EVENTUALLY OR HOW TO GET TO THE POLICE STATION.
AND SO IF YOU TUCK IT TOO FAR INTO RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT I HATE TO HAVE AS PEOPLE GO, HEY, I'VE BEEN LOOKING ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE HECK IS MEGA LANE AT LIMBER COMMON, IT'LL BE AN EXIT OFF THE HIGHWAY.
UM, I'M SURE WE DON'T WRITE TOO MANY TICKETS TO HUDDLE PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY KNOW DON'T SPEED, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF HU THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND THIS PLACE.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THERE.
UM, AND THEN I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID WHEN IT COME, WHEN YOU'RE UP AGAINST MEDICAL AND HOSPITAL, IT IS A BUFFER TO THAT THAT WILL BE POTENTIAL A BIT NOISIER.
ALTHOUGH I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT EVER BEING LIKE A, LIKE A HUGE, IF YOU GO BY UNIVERSITY, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN AN AMBULANCE GO IN OUT OF THEIR, IT'S, I THINK A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS MORE TV RELATED TO WHERE YOU JUST USED TO THE STUFF.
AND THEN, UM, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT TOWN HOMES WOULD BE LESS DESIRABLE.
BUT AFTER SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS RECENTLY,
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF I BACKED UP TO A POLICE STATION, UM, I THINK, I MEAN, I'M NOT DOING NOTHING ILLEGAL IN MY BACKYARD, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT I WOULD THINK THERE'S A ALMOST A, A SENSE OF CALMNESS THAT I HAVE THE POLICE BEHIND ME.
SO, UM, I GUESS FOR CHIEF, IF, IF YOU THINK 15 IS THE BEST, THEN I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S MY, WHERE I'M GOING.
IF YOU SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF REALLY PREFER ONE THING, BUT I GOTTA RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THIS OR A DEPARTMENT, THEN I'M GONNA GO WITH THAT.
SO I MEAN, YOU'RE GOOD WITH 15 BEING WHERE IT'S AT.
BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT DAVID PROVIDED AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD REGARDING THESE OPTIONS, FOR US, THAT IS THE MOST IDEAL, UM, LOCATION FOR, UM, THE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND THE LAST THING I'D SAY, WHEN I LOOK AT 11 AND 12, IT DOES LOOK A LITTLE COMPACT.
UM, WHAT I SAW WITH 15 AND 16 IS THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OVER TIME.
WHAT I, WHAT I HATE TO DO IS BE SHORTSIGHTED AND THEN GO, UM, LIKE 11 MAKES SENSE.
LET'S GET IT IN THERE AND IT WORKS.
AND THEN IN 10 YEARS DO IT AGAIN.
CHIEF YARBOROUGH COMES BACKGROUND AND GOES, HEY, I'M SORRY, BUT YOU GOTTA GO BUY SOME MORE LAND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 85 OFFICERS OUTTA HERE AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACK RACKED TO BEING PACKED.
SO I WAS GONNA SAY 16 ACRES IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN SIX, BUT
UM, AND JUST TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU'RE COMMENTING ON, BUT ALSO BOARD MEMBER MORRIS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU JUST SHOWS PARCEL 11 FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, BUT WE DID REVISE THAT TO ENCAPSULATE 11 AND 12.
UM, IT JUST, WE DIDN'T GET THE SITE PLAN UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT.
SO IT WOULD JUST REVERT BACK TO AVAILABLE.
SO IT'D BE 15 AND A HALF TIMES FOR DEVELOPMENT, NOT COMMERCIAL OR FUTURE MULTIFAMILY OR WHATEVER'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
AND DAVID, CAN I HAVE YOU CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME OF, BECAUSE OF COURSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CORRECT PARCEL.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THAT THE PREFERRED PARCEL IS 15 OR 16 BECAUSE THE A IR SAYS ONE THING, BUT THE COMMENTS DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU AND THE PRESENTATION WAS ON 16 IS RECOMMENDING, IT'S ONE SLIDE THAT HAS BOTH, BUT SO IT SAYS IN THE A IR IT SAYS SITE 15 IS PREFERRED.
SO WHICH IS THE LIMMER LOOP TO TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR
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SITE 15 IS THE PREFERRED PARCEL.PARCEL 16 IS THE PARCEL THAT WAS PRESENTED AS PART OF THE FINAL DELIVERABLE TO COUNSEL A A A FEW MONTHS AGO.
SO WE'VE MOVED BECAUSE I HAD NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE, SO I CORRECT.
SO 15, UH, AS WE WERE DIS DISCUSSING ALL THESE, 'CAUSE WE WERE WORKING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS PARCEL 16.
THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THIS WORK IS ON PARCEL 16.
UH, AS WE WERE HAVING THE DISCUSSION OF, HEY, WE NEED TO FINALIZE PARCELS, UM, PBK HELPED SHOWED US HOW PARCEL 15 IS ACTUALLY THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS IN THE AREA.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS PREFERRED 16 IS PERFECTLY FINE, 11 AND 12.
AGAIN, STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A HEAVY PRE UH, PREFERENCE, BUT THERE, UH, WOULD BE NEEDED RECONFIGURATION BEFORE WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION.
MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT OF, I HOPE THIS COMES ACROSS AS CONSTRUCTIVE.
UM, CRITICISM THAT'S FINE IS WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE A WAY BEFORE WE'RE GETTING PRESENTATIONS THAT, HEY, THIS IS OUR PREFERRED.
BECAUSE IF WE GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND TIME, ORIGINALLY WE WERE 11 AND 12, THEN WE DID SOME MORE WORK, WE THINK IT'S 16 AND THEN, THEN MAYBE WE DID SOME MORE WORK AND IT'S 15, IT'S BEFORE WE SPEND $50 MILLION.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS BREED THE MOST CONFIDENCE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IF IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE'VE EXHAUSTED THIS AND MAYBE WE HAVE A, LIKE A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING, THEN TO ME WE, WE GET THAT.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND PART OF THIS IS WE HAD ONE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING, BUT IT WAS EXTREMELY, UM, COST PROHIBITIVE.
AND SO PART OF THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL KIND OF DID NOT LIKE THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE AND, AND THEIR DEAL.
SO THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I GOT AND, AND THIS ISN'T REALLY YOU GUYS, BUT IT'S JUST MORE OF JUST A COMMENT, REALLY NOT A QUESTION.
IT'S ODD TO ME THAT ROADS AROUND HERE, DON'T GO NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST.
WHEN I SEE LIKE WHATEVER THE ROAD THAT'S GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, THERE IS GONNA BE, IT JUST HAS TO HAVE A BEND IN IT,
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE A, A, A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE, BUT, AND THEN YOU GOT ME LANE, WHICH IS KIND OF ALMOST GOING EAST, WEST AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GONNA LOOP IT UP AND HIT AND, AND IT JUST THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I ALWAYS LOOK AT.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM AN EDC STANDPOINT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS MONEY SPENT.
UM, AND THEN OTHER CITIES JUST SEEM TO HAVE A, THE ROAD JUST GOES EAST AND WEST AND THAT'S IT.
BUT HERE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BIG CHUNK OF RAW LAND AND WE'RE JUST WAVING ROADS AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A THING THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW
AND SIXTEEN'S THE TOP ONE, NO, NO, 15 IS THE TOP ONE.
I, I KNOW THE ONE YOU WANT IS THE TOP ONE.
FIFTEEN'S THE NORTHERN SITE AND 16 IS THE SOUTHERN SITE.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EDC APPROVES PARCEL 15.
I WANNA SAY I'M ALL HERE, BUT I'M, I AM PARCEL 15 FOR THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, CALL TO VOTE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REPRESENTATION REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CORPORATION.
GOOD EVENING, HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD.
DAVID AMSLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, TODAY I AM ATTENDING YOUR MEETING UNDER THE
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ASSUMPTION THAT THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER, UH, PILLAR ONE AND DISCUSS THAT MORE IN DEPTH TO DISCUSS THEIR KPIS TO DISCUSS, UH, IF THE GOALS ARE IN LINE, UM, BECAUSE PRIOR DIRECTION WAS, HEY, LET'S, LET'S HAVE A FEW MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE GOING PILLAR BY PILLAR.UH, IN ANTICIPATION FOR THIS MEETING, I DID SEND OUT, UM, A SLEW OF FINANCIAL DATA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE FROM OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO HELP GIVE A CLEARER PICTURE ON WHAT SOME REALISTIC TARGETS MAY BE, UH, VERSUS UNREALISTIC TARGETS.
WE WENT BACK TO 2019, UH, TO GIVE SOME HISTORICAL DATA AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TAKE ANY DIRECTION ON, UH, WHAT STEPS THIS BOARD IS LOOKING FOR FROM HERE FOR THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST.
I, I I WILL SHARE SOME OF THESE, THESE NUMBERS ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE.
SO, UM, FROM 2019 TO 2025, THE CITY OF HUDU, THAT'S THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY, NOT JUST THE HUDU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
OUR REVENUE HAS INCREASED, UH, FROM 16.8 MILLION TO 35.5 MILLION ROUGHLY THE HU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SALES TAX INCREASED FROM APPROXIMATELY 1.4 MILLION TO 3.8 MILLION IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME.
AND OUR APPRAISED VALUE, UH, FOR THE CITY OF HU HAS INCREASED FROM 2.1 BILLION TO 6.3 BILLION.
UM, SOME INTERESTING NUMBERS OF NOTE IS OUR ESSENTIALLY PIE OF, OF OR RATIO OF WHERE WE GET THE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE.
80% OF IT, UH, IS COMING FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, WHILE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, UH, IN THAT TIME PERIOD RANGED FROM 13 TO 16%.
UH, WHEN SPEAKING WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CHENEY GAMBOA, UH, SHE KIND OF ENLIGHTENED ME THAT THAT IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL EXPANSION WE'VE HAD IN THAT TIMEFRAME FOR OUR COMMERCIAL TO NOT COMPLETELY DIP.
UM, AND, AND I AGREE ANOTHER WAY TO TO LOOK AT IT IS THAT DURING THIS TIME OF GROWTH, WE HAVEN'T TECHNICALLY, UH, EASED THE OVERALL BURDEN OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, YET.
AND SO A LOT OF THIS DATA IS SHOWING THAT COMMERCIAL, UH, AND FOCUSING ON COMMERCIAL IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND INCREASING THAT RATIO, UH, TO A, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
AND, AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS SUCH AS SKYBOX, THAT, THAT ARE NOT FULLY ONLINE THAT WILL CHANGE THESE NUMBERS.
UM, WE LOOKED AT SOME EVENT ACTIVITY AS WELL, SO, UH, THAT, THAT INCLUDES SOME OF OUR PARKS.
BUT THE EDC UM, CONTRIBUTES ABOUT 50,000 TO, TO THE HOLIDAY EVENTS HERE.
UH, SO THAT'S TRAIL OF LIGHTS, HOLIDAY MARKET, AND THE HIPPO CLAW CRAWL.
UM, THEY REPRESENT A SMALLER BUT VISIBLE COMPONENT OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
CURRENTLY, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DRAW ANY COMPARISONS OR CORRELATIONS THAT, THAT THESE EVENTS ARE UPTICK ECONOMIC ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
SO IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT FROM A PURELY FISCAL PERSPECTIVE AND NOT AS A AMENITY OR NICE THING FOR THE CITY TO HAVE, UH, WE COULD NOT FIND A CORRELATION.
AND THEN, UM, SOME RECOMMENDED KPIS, UH, TO LOOK AT AS A CORPORATION WOULD BE HEDC SALES TAX GROWTH ATTRIBUTABLE TO NEW AND EXISTING BUSINESSES, ECONOMIC IMPACT OF RECRUITED PROJECTS AND IN AND INITIATIVES, UH, RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR INCENTIVES AND PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MORE DATA THAT I'M WORKING THROUGH THE FINANCE RIGHT NOW TO, TO GET TO THIS, UH, BOARD IS, OF ALL THE INCENTIVES OUT THERE, HOW MUCH IS STILL REMAINING? WHAT HAS THE RETURN BEEN? WHAT HAS BEEN THE EFFECT? UM, SO WHAT IS THE REAL ROI ON THE INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE? AND THEN, UH, BALANCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.
NOW I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND DIRECTIONS.
IF I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT, YOU, YOU'RE WANTING, I GUESS, IDEAS FOR KPIS OR WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY? SO FROM FROM THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM, IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR, FOR
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THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BOARD WAS GOING TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON SPECIFIC PILLARS, UH, FOR STAFF TO, TO CORRECT OR CHANGE, UH, FOR WHEN IT COMES TO KPIS OR THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE.
SO MY INTENTION WAS, I CAN'T ZOOM IN, BUT IT WOULD BE TO GO OVER PILLAR ONE AND, AND IF THE BOARD HAS TIME TONIGHT, ALSO PILLAR TWO TO SEE, UH, IF THE KPIS THAT ARE CURRENTLY RECOMMENDED ARE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT ONES.
UM, AND THEN TO SET, UH, SPECIFIC GOALS.
SO IF I REMEMBER, WE'RE DOING PILLAR ONE TONIGHT.
WE DO PILLAR TWO, OR WE WERE DOING ONE AND TWO TONIGHT.
HOW DID THAT GO? I THI I THINK IT WAS ONE AND TWO TONIGHT AND THREE AND FOUR.
PILLAR ONE, I ACTUALLY LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS.
I THINK IT'S SUCCINCT AND IT COVERS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.
UM, PILLAR TWO, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT WAS, UM, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, A LITTLE LESS GENERAL, BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS GENERAL SENSE, WE COULD AL SAY WE'RE ALWAYS WINNING AND ALWAYS ACHIEVING THESE THINGS.
BUT IF WE REALLY WANNA LIKE, GET IT DOWN TO A KIND OF A SCIENCE OF ARE WE ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO ACHIEVE, I FEEL LIKE PILLAR TWO IS, UM, A LITTLE BIT GENERAL.
I THINK THAT WAS THE OPINION LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT, BUT I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THAT ONE.
YEAH, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.
I'M ALSO OKAY WITH ONE AND TWO, AS LONG AS I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE SYSTEM, THAT REALLY WHERE WE DIAL IN IS GONNA BE THE KPIS TO WHERE IT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS.
TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT LIKE FOCUS RECRUITMENT ON RETAIL AND DESTINATION BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE SALES TAX.
IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE PROCESS, THE KPI IS GONNA BE WHAT, THIS IS A BROAD THING, THE UMBRELLA.
AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE KPIS THAT'S REALLY GONNA HONE IN TO GIVE YOU GUYS ALMOST IN A WAY, DIRECTION AND WAYS FOR US TO MEASURE HOW WELL WE DID.
IS THAT, AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? UH, YOU, YOU WOULD SET A GOAL UNDER THERE AND THEN MY RECOMMENDATION OR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOUR KPIS SHOULD BE MORE ASPIRATIONAL IN NATURE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO STRIVE TOWARDS.
I MEAN, AT AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE SETTING KPIS FOR THE CORPORATION, THEN THAT IS, HEY, THIS IS HOW WE CAN TELL AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, ONCE A NEW MEMBER COMES ON OR, OR THE BOARD SWITCHES OVER OR THE PUBLIC CAN TELL IF WE'RE BEING SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, THROUGH, THROUGH LEAD LEADING INDICATORS AND THEN SOME LAGGING INDICATORS.
IF THE INTENTION IS, HEY, WE WANT TO ENSURE STAFF DOES X, Y AND ZI WOULD REFER TO THOSE MORE AS PERFORMANCE METRICS, WHICH IN SOME COMPANIES OR ACROSS AMERICA, THOSE TWO WORDS ARE ENTERTAINED, INTERCHANGEABLE.
BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED TO HIT A HUNDRED CALLS A DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT A PERFORMANCE METRIC VERSUS A KPI WOULD BE, UM, PERCENTAGE OF, OF CLOSED DEALS.
AND THEN YOU COULD SET A GOAL OF, HEY, WE NEED 30% OF OUR DEALS CLOSED, JUST KIND OF QUALITATIVE VERSUS QUANTITATIVE.
NO, THEY, THEY CAN BOTH BE QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE IN NATURE, BUT, UM, BUT MAKE IT NUMERIC OR MAKE IT QUANTIFIABLE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS.
SO OTHERWISE WE'RE THEN FALLING BACK INTO THE SAME RUT OF MAKING IT SOUND GOOD, BUT HOW DO WE MEASURE THE GROWTH OR THE ACHIEVEMENT OR THE SUCCESS MM-HMM
IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF MEASUREMENT.
I'M OKAY WITH ONE THE WAY IT IS.
I DON'T, I WASN'T SURE IF ANYBODY ELSE, I MEAN KPIS, ARE WE YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
SO YEAH, SO THEN WE'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS AND STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT.
SPEED AND PROJECT READINESS IS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.
AND THE KPIS ARE PRIORITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CIP PROJECT DELIVERED ON ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND SALES TAX GROWTH, ATTRI TO NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS.
UM, SO IF IT, IF IT'S, IF IT SIMPLY SAYS SALES TAX GROWTH, SALES TAX GROWTH ATTRIBUTABLE, I CAN'T READ THAT TO NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESSES, WHERE DO, AT WHAT POINT DO WE PUT THE NUMBER IN WHERE WE KNOW, RIGHT? SO IN,
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IN YOUR DATA TODAY, UH, THAT WAS SENT OUT LAST WEEK, IT DID NOT INCLUDE THAT NUMBER, BUT LET'S PRETEND IT DID.THEN I WOULD LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL AND THEN THE BOARD COULD MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON IF THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN WHAT THAT HISTORICAL NUMBER IS, IF THEY WANT AN INCREASE ABOVE 3% OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FROM FROM YEAR OVER YEAR.
AND, AND THEN ONCE YOU ARE AT THE END OF THAT FISCAL YEAR, YOU CAN THEN REVISIT AND SEE IF THAT GOAL WAS TOO ASPIRATIONAL OR IF YOU'RE NOT ASPIRATIONAL ENOUGH.
BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE DIFFERENTIATING, IT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO NEW OR EXPANDED.
IT'S JUST NOT LIKE A ACADEMY IS NOW SELLING THOUSANDS OF MORE SHOES MM-HMM
BECAUSE THERE'S NO REALLY EXPANSION THERE.
THERE'S SALES TAX, BUT YOU WANNA SEE SALES TAX THAT'S, THAT'S FROM NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS.
SO ACADEMY ADDS ON ANOTHER 50% SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT NEW SALES TAX.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE KPIS IS THAT WE'RE ATTRIBUTING IT TO THE NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESSES.
SO WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FROM REGULAR SALES TAX 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST SELLING MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE FOOD OR MORE ALCOHOL OR MORE ENTERTAINMENT, WHATEVER.
BUT THAT KPI IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE, THAT THOSE METRICS THAT WE NEED YES.
CAN YOU SCAN DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE? YES.
OH, YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT? NO, IT'S OKAY.
IS IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SALES TAX GROWTH ATTRIBUTABLE TO NEWER, EXPANDED BUSINESSES GOES IN PILLAR ONE.
TO ME, WE REALLY SAY NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS, AND THEN PILLAR TWO IS BUSINESS ATTRACTION RECRUITMENT, AND THEN THERE WE HAVE PRIMARY FOCUS, SALES, TAX, GROWTH AND DISCIPLINE.
SO I SAY I THINK THE SALES TAX GROWTH ATTRIBUTABLE TO NEWER EXPANDED BUSINESS WOULD GO DOWN TO PILLAR TWO BECAUSE PILLAR ONE TO ME IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS AND STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT AND MAYBE MM-HMM
WE NEED SOMETHING THERE FOR STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF, UM, LIKE THE CIP PROJECT.
CIP PROJECT, LIKE IN ONE OR THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE DO A TARGETED, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UH, I, FOR ME, A KPI OF LIKE, WE ATTRACT A GROCERY RELATED USER.
I DON'T REALLY CARE WHO THAT IS, BUT TO ME, SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THERE'S STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND MAYBE THIS NEXT YEAR WE, WE DON'T DO IT, BUT WE CAME CLOSE OR WE DO DO IT.
AND THE NEXT YEAR WE GO, OKAY, WE HAVE TWO OTHER OR THREE OTHER ONES.
I, MAYBE NOT A GROCERY, BUT MAYBE LIKE JUNIOR ANCHOR OR ANCHOR, OH, LEVEL RETAIL BUSINESS, SOMETHING.
BECAUSE THAT COULD BE BALANCING, BALANCING THE WHOLE, TO ME THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS LIKE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEN AT LEAST CHENEY OR STAFF CAN GO, HEY LOOK, CAN SIT, I LOOK AT THIS WHERE, AND AGAIN THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME, BUT IF I WAS IN YOUR GUYS' SHOES, I'D WANNA SIT DOWN WITH A DEVELOPER AND GO, LOOK, I GOT THESE KPI THINGS, THESE PEOPLE ARE PASSING ON ME AND THEY'RE WANTING, THEY'RE WANTING WHAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING US.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME IN AND ASK FOR INCENTIVES, THEN YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT AND GO, LOOK, THIS IS REALLY NOT A FOCUS.
NOT THAT I WON'T BRING IT UP, BUT DON'T BE, DON'T BE UPSET IF THEY, YOU KNOW, SLAM THE DOOR.
WHEREAS FLIP SIDE, YOU CAN MEET WITH SOMEONE AT, SAY A REAL ESTATE CONFERENCE AND GO, LOOK, THIS IS, THIS IS A MAJOR THING.
I MEAN, IT'S IN, IT'S IN OUR PILLAR.
BUT, UM, AND THEN FOR PILLAR TWO, AGAIN, BUSINESS ATTRACTION RECRUITMENT TO ME, SALES TAX GROWTH AND, AND DISCIPLINE.
AND MAYBE THEY'RE, UM, YOU GOT RECRUITED JOBS LINE WITH BOARD DEFINED PRIORITY CATEGORIES.
I'D HAVE TO WORD THAT TO MAYBE THERE'S MORE KPIS THERE.
UM, IT'S LIKE THE BUSINESSES WE TALK ABOUT WANTING, LIKE THE ONES WE REALLY WANNA BRING HERE, AS LONG AS OUR, THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALIGNING WITH THOSE DESIRES, RIGHT.
IS WHAT WE'RE, AND THEN I'D BE PUTTING YEAR OVER YEAR SALES TAX REVENUE GROWTH OF, I'D PUT A PERCENT, WHATEVER FINANCE SAYS IS GONNA BE KIND OF PUSHING A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE IT'S LIKE 8% OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW AS NOT THAT YOU MADE IT THIS WAY ON PURPOSE, BUT $1 IS, HEY, I HIT IT.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN MAYBE FROM RECRUITMENT, MAYBE THERE'S A JOB NUMBER IN THERE.
AND, AND AGAIN, I HAVEN'T EVER BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF LOOKING AT JOBS AS PART OF EDC GROWTH.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE, THERE ARE METRICS WE NEED TO USE AND, AND MAYBE THERE WE MIGHT BE THAT WE'RE RECRUITING NOT JUST, HEY, THIS GUY THAT'S MAKING 20 NEW JOBS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, A 300 TO 500 TO RE RECRUIT, UM, SOME KIND OF CORPORATION THAT'S A THOUSAND PERSON BUSINESS WITH JOBS THAT ARE AT OR ABOVE THE, THE COUNTY MEETING INCOME OR SOMETHING.
SOMETHING TO WHERE THEN AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAKES SENSE, BUT TO ME IT, IT'D BE NICE WHEN WE SIT IN MEETINGS FOR, YOU KNOW, RECRUITMENTS AND WE'RE GOING LIKE,
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WHAT ARE YOU GUYS PAYING? IT'S LIKE, GUYS, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING INCENTIVES AND YET YOUR PAY IS BELOW THE MEDIAN OR THE AVERAGE OF THE COUNTY THAT THAT'S NOT CHECKING BOXES.OR WE COULD SIT DOWN AND GO, OKAY, WE CAN TALK INCENTIVES BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE IS CHECKING.
IT'S HITTING A THOUSAND PERSON JOB.
IT'S, IT'S HITTING A, AN INCOME BECAUSE I MEAN, WHAT'S OUR MEETING INCOME NOW? IT'S LIKE 1 39 OR SOMETHING HOUSEHOLD I WOULD'VE TO CHECK.
WE JUST GOT OUR NEW NUMBERS, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO, BUT IT'S HIGH LIKE THAT, RIGHT? IT'S SOMEWHERE UP THERE.
FOR THE E TJ IS USUALLY WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THAT'S MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EMPLOYMENT POPULATION.
SO I COULD SEE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, I LOOK AT THIS AS WE'RE GONNA BE EVALUATING SOMEBODY ON THIS THE WAY JAMES TALKS, BUT THEN ALSO I DON'T THINK THE OUGHT TO BE SO TOUGH THAT YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, LOOK, I'M NOT GONNA GET A RAISE THIS YEAR.
I MIGHT AS WELL QUIT THIS JOB.
I WANT IT TO BE LIKE, LOOK, PUSH YOU A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE TO BE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE YOU GUYS CAN COME TO US AND SAY, UM, YOU GUYS SET THESE GOALS AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS I'M NEVER GONNA HIT THIS NUMBER IF YOU GUYS APPROVE A LEAD BATTERY PLANT, NO MATTER HOW GREAT THEY SAY IT IS.
UM, BUT THEN I THINK KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE COUNCIL IS WE PASSED RESOLUTION SAYING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON PROJECTS THAT DON'T USE A LOT OF WATER AND HELP OUT WITH OUR WATER SYSTEM.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON PROJECTS THAT BRING IN INCOME IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US NOT TO RAISE TAXES ON PEOPLE TO KIND OF HAVE STAFF AND COUNSEL ALL ALIGNED THAT THESE ARE PRIORITIES.
AND SO, UM, I JUST ADD A COUPLE THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK WE'RE, SO THE NOTES ON PILLAR ONE AND PILLAR TWO, SO FOR PILLAR ONE, WE'RE SORT OF TAKING THAT SECOND KPI AND BLENDING IT WITH THE SALES TECH SALES TAX KPI OF PILLAR TWO.
AND THEN INSTEAD OF IT IN PILLAR ONE, WE PUT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF ATTRACTING A, YOU KNOW, ANCHOR LEVEL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, RETAIL BUSINESS.
I WAS GONNA SAY, IF WE MOVE THE SECOND POINT FROM PILLAR ONE DOWN, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THE SEPARATION BETWEEN NEW AND EXPANDED AND THEN YEAR OVER YEAR OF, OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ARE EXISTING.
I WOULDN'T PUT THE, NECESSARILY THE NEW BUSINESS UP THERE ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A, ANYTHING BUSINESS COMMERCIAL IS GONNA BE A PILLAR TWO, I'M READING ONE TO BE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT MAYBE, RIGHT.
WE'RE SAYING PULL THAT ONE DOWN INTO PILLAR TWO, RIGHT.
AND THEN ADD ANOTHER KPI MM-HMM
SOMETHING TO DO WITH, UM, I KNOW I SAID LIKE A GROCERY STORE, BUT I THINK THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE PROBABLY PILLAR TWO, RIGHT DAVID AS A BUSINESS ATTRACTION.
AND PILLAR ONE IS MORE SO STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT MAY BE LIKE, UM, A BRIDGE OVER 1 32 OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE WORKING ON MORE HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE.
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE KPI ON PILLAR ONE? YOU NO, I SORT, I MEAN I JUST REALLY LIKE THAT FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE AND I THINK THAT IT ENCOMPASSES ALL WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IN THAT PILLAR.
I AGREE WITH THAT ALSO BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR PROBABLY BIGGEST HEADACHES.
SO IF IT WAS LIKE, LOOK, WE JUST GOT ONE PRIORITY YES.
OR PILLAR ONE HIT THE TIMELINES YEP.
AND THEN IF WE HIT THAT NEXT YEAR, WE CAN ADD 15 MORE KPIS TO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY OVERBURDEN A SMALLER BITE FIRST AND THEN THERE'S A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND THEN GROW FROM THERE.
SO I HAVE A, A COMMENT ABOUT THIS.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, THIS CAN'T BE NEW TO ANY MUNICIPALITY.
THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE GROWN THAT GONE BEYOND US.
ARE WE, ARE WE TRYING TO GET BEST PRACTICES? YEAH, THE MAJORITY.
THE MAJORITY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CIP PROJECTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT PORTION HAS BECOME HU UNIQUE OF, HEY, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS AS A CITY.
THERE'S, THERE'S EVEN, WE'RE PRESENTING THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 16TH.
I HAVE ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH CIP PROJECTS IN THERE AS WELL, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A, A BIG AREA THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DELIVERING CORRECTLY.
BUT THE MA THE MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THESE ARE TYPICAL HUDU OR NOT HUDU, EDC KPIS, RIGHT? UM, NOT NOTHING ON HERE OTHER THAN THE CIP WOULD YOU NOT SEE IN ANOTHER CORPORATION.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY I'M NOT ONE TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR STAFF.
I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE WHOLE KIND OF AREA IN, IN SOME CASES, TEXAS IN GENERAL, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY REALLY HAS A GOOD GRASP OUT THERE ON A BEST PRACTICE FOR THE, THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE HAVE.
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IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE PEOPLE ARE SLAPPING DOWN ROADS AND YOU SEE A CITY FIVE YEARS LATER.I MEAN, THERE'S BRIDGE THAT TDOT RIPPED OUT THAT WASN'T EVEN 10 YEARS OLD AND EXPANDED IT.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND I THINK THEY'VE GOT BEST PRACTICES HERE AND THERE, BUT THEY'RE FAILING IN OTHER AREAS ALSO.
AND IT'S JUST, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, CENTRAL TEXAS KIND OF JUST SCREWED UP.
AND THEN THE GUYS THAT GOT IT RIGHT, I, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE IT RIGHT TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE KPR, THEY HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING, IT'S JUST THEY FOUGHT THROUGH IT FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS AND NOW THEY'RE KIND OF GETTING CLOSE TO THE BUILD OUT.
AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF DONE AND IT'S EASY TO MAINTAIN ONCE YOU'RE DONE.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOBODY HAS THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE RUN ACROSS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GROW YOUR, HOW DO YOU GROW YOUR RESIDENTIAL BY 15% A YEAR, YEAR AFTER YEAR? UM, MOST OF THESE GUYS HAD EXPERIENCE OF LIKE TWO TO 3% ANEMIC GROWTH AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND THAT DOES THAT KIND OF SOUND PART OF OUR, I I I DAVID WANNA COMMENT ON CENTRAL TEXAS AS A WHOLE, HE'S TIGHTENING AN EMAIL RIGHT NOW GOING, HEY MAN, WE'RE GETTING SOME
BUT AS SOMEONE WHO GREW UP IN DFW THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES FOR SURE.
I MEAN THE USE OF KPIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS HAD DIDN'T REALLY OCCUR UNTIL ABOUT 2022.
2023 IS WHEN YOU STARTED SEEING C CITIES LIKE MCKINNEY CITIES, UH, SOUTH TEXAS, UH, SOME COGS STARTED USING KPIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INDICATORS.
AND SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS RATHER NEW, UH, TO THE INDUSTRY.
YOU'RE SETTING THE BEST PRACTICE.
I MEAN, WHY NOT? I WASN'T GONNA TOOT MY HORN.
PRACTICES THAT WE CAN TAP INTO, LET'S CREATE SOME THAT OTHER CITIES CAN FOLLOW.
WHY NOT BE THE LEADER IN THIS AREA? OKAY.
SO, BUT OUR, OUR OBJECTIVE RIGHT NOW IS PILLAR ONE AND PILLAR TWO.
SO I JUST KINDA LIKE WANNA BRING US BACK TO OUR GOAL HERE IN THIS CONVERSATION.
THIS IS FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND.
UH, PILLAR ONE, WE'RE ELIMINATING THE SECOND KPI AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NOTE FOR NOW, UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE WERE TO COME UP ON PILLAR TWO.
UM, WE WANT TO COME WITH UP WITH A MORE NUMERIC DEFINITION OF WHAT THOSE THINGS MEAN IN THE KPI SECTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? MAYBE SOMETHING FINANCE CAN PROVIDE FOR US.
YEAH, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT ACTUAL PERCENT FOR THE YEAR, YEAR, YEAR ACTUAL PERCENT GROWTH YEAR.
AND THEN TO WHAT, UH, MEMBER PORTERFIELD SAID BRINGING THE SALES TAX GROWTH DOWN MM-HMM
AND, AND HAVING SOME KIND OF, SOME KIND OF NUMBER THERE.
I, AND THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGHER.
AND THEN, UM, THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST ADD A, A RECRUITMENT OF A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHETHER IT BE A GROCERY ANCHOR OR, UM, A BIG BOX OR EVEN, AND THEN PUT IN AND PUT IN SOMETHING THERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, AN EMPLOYMENT, I DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL IT, AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER OR SOME KIND OF EMPLOYER THAT IS OVER 700 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
SOMETHING THAT WOULD REPRESENT A BIG NUMBER MM-HMM
AND HAVE IT BENCHMARK AGAINST THE COUNTY.
SO THAT, UM, TO ME THOSE ALL FALL INTO BUSINESS ATTRACTION RECRUITMENT TO BE ABLE TO OF PREFERRED LIKE ANCHOR HEALTHCARE OR, UH, A ANCHOR OR INDUSTRY OR A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THEN MEDIAN.
I MEAN I MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE 10 THERE.
LIKE WHATEVER THOSE PREFERRED LIST, LIKE WE'RE ONE A HOSPITAL MIGHT CHANGE OVER TIME.
TO ME, HOSPITALS SHOULD GO IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S A RECRUITMENT THING AND ATTRACTION AND SO OKAY.
YEAH, WE'RE FOCUSED ON A HOSPITAL WITH LIKE, NOT LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE WHERE IT TURNS OUT TO BE AN IMMEDIATE CARE, BUT LIKE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HOSPITAL, SO MANY BEDS OR JUST SOME LITTLE NUMBER TO WHERE WE KNOW, ALL OF US KNOW THAT.
AND, AND THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT IT AND GO, OKAY, THEY'RE OVER A HUNDRED BEDS HOSPITAL MM-HMM
WHATEV, WHATEVER THE METRIC IS WHERE CHENEY, WHOEVER CAN LOOK AND GO, OKAY, THESE GUYS WANT A, A LEGIT HOSPITAL, NOT A, NOT A CENTER, JUST YEAH.
JUST FOR REFERENCE, FOR THE BOARD, FOR SALES TAX REVENUE, UM, I'M GONNA BE LISTING THESE FROM 2019 TO 2025, THE YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE MM-HMM
SO TO 19 TO 20 IT WAS 30%, THEN 31%, THEN 16%, THEN 18%, THEN 8%, THEN 12%.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT A FINANCIAL EXPERT, BUT, UM, WE COULD HAVE FINANCE GIVE YOU, GIVE THE BOARD A RECOMMENDED LIKE FINANCIAL FORECAST ESSENTIALLY MM-HMM
AND THEN THAT COULD BE WHAT THE BOARD ADOPTS, UM, AS THE KPI AND THEN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY IF, IF WE'RE HITTING IT OR, OR NOT.
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I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAD SOME BIG GROWTH IS BECAUSE WE, WE HAD SOME BUSINESSES COME SO NOW WE CAN LOOK AND GO, OKAY, WHAT DO WE REALLY HAVE? ECONOMICUM, BUT AGAIN, DON'T LET IT BE SO HIGH WHERE IT'S LIKE, LOOK, I MEAN THESE GUYS ARE WANTING SOMETHING THAT CAN'T PHYSICALLY HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THAT THE, THE TIMING OF THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH 2028 BY 2028, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, I THINK INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED ITEMS COMING TO THE SURFACE THAT WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR MORE THINGS.
AND SO IT'LL BE A PERFECT TIME TO ADJUST, YOU KNOW, THESE NUMBERS, UH, TO PROJECT BEYOND THAT POINT.
AND, AND I'LL SAY THIS, LET'S SEE, I, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE NUMBER BEING MM-HMM
LIKE, OH MAN, WE JUST GAVE IT TO 'EM.
SO AS WE GET NUMBERS AND WE START REFINING, I'M NOT EXPECTING THIS TO BE, IN MY MIND THE WAY THIS COULD WORK IN LIKE A HIGH PERFORMANCE GROUP.
I COULD SEE THIS BEING THREE TO FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE CLICKING LIKE A CLOCK.
WHEREAS RIGHT NOW IT'S GONNA BE SOME HIT AND MISSES AND MM-HMM
UM, BUT THEN I IMAGINE FIVE YEARS TO BE STANDING WHERE YOU'RE AT RAILING ON SOMEBODY FOR, HOW DID YOU MISS THIS KPI, COME ON MAN.
YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED RIGHT NOW.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE WE'RE ABLE TO QUITE GET THERE.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UH, APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING UP THE TIMELINE BECAUSE I'M WONDERING TOO, AND DAVID, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IF THERE'S A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPLIT THAT A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY SEE THE REAL IMPACT OF THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS, UM, I LIKE THE THREE YEAR 'CAUSE THAT, THAT GIVES US KIND OF THAT RUNWAY THAT WE NEED.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO TRACK LIKE THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, LIKE WHEN WE SIGN STUFF, SO THAT WAY WE WE'RE TRACKING OUR PIPELINE SO TO SPEAK AS WELL.
SO IF WE SIGN, UM, A GREAT ANCHOR AND THEY'RE PROJECTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, $20 MILLION IN ANNUAL SALES TAX REVENUE, UM, STARTING IN YEAR, WHATEVER, WE WE'RE TRACKING THAT.
SO WE KNOW WE'VE RECRUITED THAT IT IS COMING AND THEN WHEN IT ACTUALLY STARTS PERFORMING, WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE, HEY, DID THEY DELIVER ON WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO SO THAT MAYBE WE MODIFY OUR PRO PRO PROCESSES MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN BETTER, UM, ANALYZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A REAL MARKET.
LIKE A PERFORMA TRACKING CARD IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE, I DIDN'T KNOW, DAVID.
IS THAT SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TRACKING THE NOW, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO TRACKING THOSE THINGS AS THEY COME ONLINE TOO.
THE THE NEXT MAJOR PIECE THAT I'M WORKING WITH FINANCE TO GET IS ALL OF OUR EXISTING INCENTIVES AND FOR US TO DO AN ANALYSIS ON HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY PERFORMING.
SO THAT SHOULD GIVE, THAT'S PERFECT.
YOU GUYS A BASELINE OF HOW YOUR AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN PERFORMING IN THE PAST.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A KPI FROM THAT, RIGHT? HEY, WE WANT TO ONLY SIGN BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA BE WITHIN 80% OF WHAT THEY PROMISED.
RIGHT? AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 65 OR 70 I, I, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT THAT THAT'S THE NEXT MAJOR DATA PIECE THAT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO EVERYONE HERE.
I I, I LIKE, I LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE BOTH SAYING BECAUSE THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TOO IS LET'S SAY WE HAVE FIVE BUSINESSES AND THEY ALL SIGNED AGREEMENTS AND IF WE'RE NOT TRACKING THIS APPROPRIATELY, WE COULD BE OUT TRYING TO HELP BUSINESS A AND B WHO ARE OUTPERFORMING THEIR AGREEMENTS.
AND WE'RE NOT OUT SUPPORTING B AND C.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE A BIG COMPANY, THEY'RE FINE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU NOW LIKE ACADEMY I DON'T THINK IS DOING AS WELL AS ACADEMY THOUGHT THEY DO.
AND IS THAT ACADEMY'S FAULT OR IS THAT, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO? BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HUDDLE THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WE HAVE AN ACADEMY.
AND SO THERE'S THINGS I THINK WE COULD DO TOO, KNOWING THAT HEY, IF THEY'RE STRONG, THAT'S GREAT.
IF THEY GO OUTTA BUSINESS AND PULL OUT IN TWO YEARS, THAT SETS BACK RETAIL IN OUR CITY FOR YEARS.
SO I THINK YEAH, TRACKING'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO KNOW HOW DO WE DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES CORRECTLY.
AND THEN ALSO, NOT JUST THE BIG GUYS, BUT EVEN THE SMALL PEOPLE.
IF YOU'VE GOT A SMALL COFFEE SHOP THAT'S JUST MURDERING IT, UM, IS THAT WHERE YOU NEED TO SPEND YOUR RESOURCES OR DO YOU NEED TO SPEND IT MORE ON, HEY, WE REALLY NEED THIS OTHER BUSINESS THAT KIND OF FILLED A NICHE.
HOW DO WE HELP THEM OUT AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF COVERAGE OR WHATEVER.
AND SO I THINK TRACKING WOULD BE WHAT YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE GOOD TO, YEAH, THE
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ONLY THING, I MEAN, JUST COMBINE SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THEN ADD A LITTLE COLUMN FOR WHAT DID THE PERFORMER FROM THAT BUSINESS TO MM-HMMAND THEN YOU COULD SEE THE WHOLE YEP.
ONE, ONE OTHER POINT IS THAT THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS YOU, UH, YOU INCENTIVIZE TO BRING TO HATO MM-HMM
AND THOSE MAY NOT BE PERFORMERS BECAUSE YOU WANTED THEM HERE.
AND SO YOU MIGHT ALSO WANT TO INDICATE THOSE THAT YOU WERE USING AS A LOSS LEADER TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH WHAT WAS THE REASON THEY CAME VERSUS, VERSUS ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT IN AS A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RETAIL IN, YOU KNOW, PERFORMER.
BECAUSE, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU BOUGHT, LIKE THE SOURCE.
WHAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THEM COMING.
DID WE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEEDED, DAVID? YES.
SO, UM, A LOT OF TANGENTS TO GO ON ON THIS ONE.
SO I, I, I WOULD LIKE DIRECTION AND THE EFFECT OF, OR HOW, HOWEVER THE BOARD CHOOSES.
UM, BUT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING MY DIRECTION TO BE IS TO REMOVE THE SECOND KPI FROM PILLAR ONE.
UM, AND THEN FOR PILLAR TWO TO PROVIDE, UM, DATA ON THE INCENTIVES AND HOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY PERFORMING, AS WELL AS, UM, TO HAVE FINANCE WORK WITH ME TO CREATE A FINANCIAL FORECAST FOR THE SALES TAX REVENUE OVERALL.
AND THEN ON THE RECRUITED PROJECTS ALIGNED WITH BOARD DEFINED CATEGORIES.
UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT DIRECTLY STATED IN HERE.
UH, I, I MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION ON WHAT CATEGORIES THE BOARD EXACTLY WANTS.
SO COUNCILOR, BOARD MEMBER MORRIS WAS MENTIONING THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
IF THERE WAS DIRECTION ON HEY, THESE ARE THE FIVE CATEGORIES WE WANT TO BE SEEING OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
'CAUSE THEN WE COULD START CHECKING THAT BOX ON THAT KPI AND THAT'S, YEAH.
SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, HE MENTIONED ANCHOR INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT IS SAID INDUSTRY SUCH AS HOSPITAL INCOME AND ANCHOR AND THEN NUMBER EMPLOYEES.
BECAUSE THEN THAT, THAT GETS YOU HOSPITAL, THAT GETS YOU TO RETAIL BIG, SOME KIND OF BIG BOX RETAIL MM-HMM
AND THEN ALSO GETS YOU AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER THAT, NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T CELEBRATE THE 20 AND 30 PERSON GROUPS, BUT AS YOUR CITY GETS INTO THE SIX AND 10 BILLION RANGE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED A LOT OF THOSE.
AND WHAT PEOPLE REALLY, I THINK WANT HERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MOVE THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM
AND SO MAYBE WHATEVER NUMBER YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THAT YOU FEEL CHALLENGING, YOU'LL KNOW THAT WE'LL ADD A FEW, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED TO IT, SO.
AND AS FAR AS THE, JUST A, AN OBSERVATION, UH, IN REGARDS TO DATA CENTERS, THE NORTHEAST PART OF AUSTIN OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY HAS THE MOST DATA CENTERS OF ALL THE AREA, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT, A LOT OF, UM, POSITIONS TO MANAGE THOSE CENTERS.
SO THOSE ARE THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE WE BALANCE AND, OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A PRESENTATION REGARDING A REQUEST FOR INCENTIVES FOR ALPHA GRAPHICS LOCATION IN HUDU.
THAT PRESENTATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE MAY MEETING.
MOVING ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR MARCH, 2026.
UH, NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT TONIGHT.
I'LL KEEP IT, UH, SHORT AND SWEET.
UM, I THINK YOUR MAIN PIECE OF FINANCIAL ACTIVITY WAS THE FINAL $10,000 PAYMENT TO THE HU OF WINE BAR, UH, THIS PAST MONTH.
YOUR REVENUES EXCEED EXPENSES RIGHT NOW BY $778,000.
YOU HAVE JUST OVER $7 MILLION IN CASH AND THERE IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TONIGHT BEING PROPOSED.
FOR THE LAST AGENDA ITEM WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST TIME, IT'S TO SEGREGATE OUT YOUR INCENTIVE PAYMENTS FROM THE SALES TAX LINE ITEM.
UM, IF THAT PASSES, UM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY WHERE YOUR BUDGETED GROSS SALES TAX REVENUES ARE.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S AT 47%.
SO HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR YOU SHOULD BE AT 50.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LOW, BUT NOTHING TERRIBLY ALARMING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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ME.ANY QUESTIONS OR JUST HAVE A GENERAL FINANCE QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ON PAGE 29 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THESE VARIANCES, UNFAVORABLE AND UNFAVORABLE.
I, I I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE, WHY ARE WE DOWN 85.7 MILLION? THAT CAN'T BE TRUE.
SO, UH, THAT'S PENDING LAND SALES.
UH, FOR, WE'RE EXPECTING $85 MILLION MORE IN, UM, REVENUES THIS YEAR, ALL CONTINGENT ON LAND SALES.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, I THINK A VARIANCE OF $51 MILLION.
I WAS LIKE, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME.
I THINK SHE LIKES IT 'CAUSE SHE KNOWS ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO SHE'S LIKE, SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE, LIKE, CHALLENGING ME A LITTLE BIT.
MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CORPORATION'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT AS PRESENTED.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
SECONDED BY SECRETARY GONZALEZ.
LET'S CALL A VOTE BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX TWO.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 21 TO APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER TO THE CONTRACT WITH CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY FOR THE SCHEDULE RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE FOR THIS COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 PROJECT.
SO THIS ITEM WAS PUT ON PROACTIVELY IN ANTICIPATION OF RECEIVING THE CHANGE ORDER.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT, SO WE'LL POSTPONE THIS TO AT LEAST THE MAIN MEETING.
JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHY DO, WHY DO WE THINK ONE'S COMING SINCE IT, WE HAD RECEIVED COMMUNICATION THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE ORDER COMING AND THEN THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPACTS FOUND AFTER THAT.
SO I HAD ALREADY PUBLISHED BY THE TIME WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO INCORPORATE INTO THE CHANGE ORDER.
AND WHAT ARE THEY SEEING THAT FOR GUYS THAT LITERALLY JUST PUT THE BARRELS OUT, WHAT ARE THEY ALREADY SEEING THAT THEY GO, OH MY GOD.
UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE ATMOS LOCATES FOR THE GAS LINES.
WHAT'S THAT MEAN? LIKE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE SOME OF THE LINES YET, SO IT'S IMPACTING THEIR TIMELINE ALREADY.
UM, AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, OR ATMOS OR THAT'S SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT'S OCCURRING.
WE'RE TRYING, I THINK THEY'RE CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE AS-BUILTS, UM, TO VERIFY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
BUT I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON SPECIFIC TO THE GAS LINES IN THE AREA.
SO ATMOS DOESN'T HAVE THE, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GAS LINE IS AS, AS A HYPOTHETICALLY, NOT OFFICIALLY.
WELL, IT'S, UH, IS IT A FERRIS, IS IT A NON FERRIS METAL? BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN'T FIND IT.
SO NO ACTION ON SIX TWO, BUT IF WE CAN PASS OUT, JUST SO WE HAVE IT, OUR FINAL CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED, JUST SO WE CAN ALL REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND FOR FUTURE CHANGES, WHO NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, AND THEN AT WHAT POINT IT NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING SO THAT WE DON'T KICK OFF A PROJECT AND IMMEDIATELY HIT A HIT A DELAY ONE WEEK LATER.
I MEAN, WE, WE LITERALLY JUST KICKED THIS OFF AND ALREADY PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE BEHIND.
SO NO, I, NO ACTION ON SIX TWO.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX THREE, DISCUSS, UH, DISCUSSION REGARDING AN UPDATE ON, ON THE STATUS OF THE SENIOR HOUSING COMMUNITY KNOWN AS THE TRAILS AT CARMEL CREEK.
UM, SO THIS UPDATE, UH, IS SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT WAS PROVIDED, UM, AT THE JANUARY MEETING.
I DID REACH OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP FOR THE TRAILS AT CARMEL CREEK, WHICH IS THE SENIOR LIVING, UM, DEVELOPMENT HERE IN HU.
AND, UM, THEY SHARED THAT THEY'RE STILL FOLLOWING THEIR SAME PATH.
THEY'RE INCREASING THE RENTS AND DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT BEING, UH, FIXED INCOME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRUCTURE, UH, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO INCREASE 5% YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO THAT'S THEIR PLAN IS TO INCREASE BY THE 5%.
AND WHAT IS THEIR OCCUPANCY? I DO NOT KNOW.
I WAS, YEAH, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THEY WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY FILLING, FILLING THAT COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON AGENDA ITEM SIX THREE.
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MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE QUARTERLY JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 2ND, 2026 AND THE REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 9TH, 2026.MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
UH, FROM BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY SECRETARY GONZALEZ.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX FIVE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 2 2 APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE CORPORATION RELATED TO THE ALLOCATION OF TAX, UH, SALES TAX INCENTIVES.
CHRISTINA BISHOP, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.
AGAIN, UH, THIS IS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT IN THE, UH, FINANCIAL REPORT A FEW ITEMS AGO.
UH, THIS IS JUST TO SEGREGATE OUT THE SALES TAX INCENTIVES FROM GROSS SALES TAX REVENUE.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS JUST THE SALES TAX PORTION OF YOUR AGREEMENTS.
ALL OF THE GRANT FUNDS ARE ALREADY IN AN EXPENSE LINE, UH, IN YOUR EXPENSES.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 22 AS PRESENTED SECOND.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE.
THE BOARD WILL NOW RECESS THE OPEN MEETING AND RECONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 ATTORNEY CONSULTATION 5 5 1 0 8 7 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 5 5 1 0 7 2 REAL PROPERTY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
PROJECT CORE PROJECT LAKE, THE MEGASITE PROJECT PROJECT BLUE HUB PROJECT HEARTBEAT PROJECT, HISTORIC BEAUTY PROJECT, ORCHARD PROJECT PROJECT, DYNAMITE PROJECT, WEST PROJECT SATELLITE PROJECT STRAT THREE, PRICING FOR COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT FOR HU HOSPITALITY, A POSSIBLE INCENTIVE FOR ALPHA GRAPHICS, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES IN ANY RELATED INCENTIVES.
POSSIBLE LITIGATION, UH, POSSIBLE LITIGATION WITH MIDWAY SALES TAX SHARING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUDU AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES.
DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IMPACTING CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY EASEMENTS AND OTHER USED RIGHTS OWNED ON CORPORATION OWNED PROPERTY AGREEMENTS FOR, UH, PROJECT BRUSHY CREEK WW AND PROJECT COUNTY ROAD 1 37 SLASH FM 1660 AND THE EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE CORPORATE FUNDS FOR INCENTIVES.
WILL NOW, UM, RECONVENE AND REGULAR SESSION, UH, TO DISCUSS ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 8.1.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION REGARDING THE LOCATION OF A JUSTICE CENTER FACILITY FOR THE CITY OF HU TO BE LOCATED ON THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES.
DIDN'T WE ALREADY, WE ADDRESS THAT ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF? UH, THAT ONE'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, UH, ITEM 8.2 WILL HAVE NO ACTION.
UM, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION UNDER THE RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 23 ON A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT.
UM, FIDELIS, UH, NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN AT THIS TIME.
ITEM EIGHT THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION AND RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 2 4 TO APPROVE A JOINT PROCUREMENT MANUAL PERTAINING TO THE CIP PROJECTS ASSIGNED TO THE HEDC.
WE'RE PUSHING THAT OFF, WE'RE PUSHING THAT, WE'RE RETAINING, POSTPONE THAT TO LIKELY A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
WE'RE POSTPONING THAT AS WELL.
ITEM EIGHT FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH HEDC DASH 2026 DASH 0 2 5 TO APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FORM DOCUMENT FOR THE CORPORATION.
IS THAT ALSO INCLUDED IN THATAM? THANK YOU.
AND THEN ITEM EIGHT FIVE, CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS, UH, LISTED ABOVE.
UH, MOTION FOR, UH, BOARD MEMBER SNYDER TO CONVEY REAL ESTATE PROPOSAL
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TO HU CHAMBER BOARD, UM, PROVIDING THE TERMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.UH, MOTION BY VICE CHAIR MORALES, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER REPORTER FIELD.
ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? OKAY.
HEARING NONE, CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
UM, MOTION TO PURSUE PROPERTY MENTIONED UNDER, UH, PROJECT HEARTBEAT AS DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SECOND MOTION PRESENTED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER MORRIS AYE.
AND A MOTION TO, UM, ESTABLISH A SPECIAL, SPECIAL CALLED HEDC BOARD MEETING FOR, UH, TO DISCUSS FIDELIS, UH, THE PROJECT MANUAL AND, UM, FORM FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND, UM, SORRY, THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.
IS IT PROCUREMENT MANUAL AND THEN CONSTRUCTION.
CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FORM, SORRY.
AND, UH, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND THEN THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AGREEMENT.
MOTION, UM, PRESENTED BY VICE CHAIR MORALES.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MORRIS.
HEARING NONE WILL CALL THE VOTE BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK WE HAD ONE FOR PROJECT SATELLITE.
A MOTION OR AN AGENDA ITEM? A MOTION BASED ON THE TERMS. OH, THAT WAS WITH THE TWINS? YEAH.
UH, SO A MOTION TO, UH, DIRECT TO CITY STAFF.
HOW, HOW WOULD YOU SAY THAT? TO UPDATE THE, TO SEND OUT A REVISED CONTRACT BASED ON THE TERMS SAYS RIGHT.
OFFER TERMS LETTER ON THE REVISED TERMS AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MOTION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER SNYDER.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PORTERFIELD.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL CALL A VOTE BOARD MEMBER.
ANY OTHER MOTIONS? ANYBODY? OKAY.
UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ANYBODY? ANYBODY? OKAY.