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SO LET'S CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 2ND, 2026 AT 7:00 PM TO ORDER.
I AM YOUR CHAIR, HUDSON, UH, VICE CHAIR TZ HERE.
AND COMMISSIONER KENARD HERE, SIR.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.1, CONSIDERATION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 5TH, 2026.
OH, I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR WORTZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL CALL FOR VOTE.
UH, NEXT IS 5.1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE LIDELL WALKER.
PHASE FIVE, FINAL PLAT, 36.574 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND 172, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF CR 1 32 AND WEST OF CR 1 33.
UH, FOREST WILLIAMS PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PROPOSED LIDO WALKER PHASE FIVE FINAL PLAT.
UM, AS STATED, THIS IS 36, UH, ACRES AND IS APPROXIMATELY 172 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO, UM, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE, UH, COUNTY ROAD 1 32 AND WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
AND THE SUBDIVISION WAS ANNEXED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
AND IT IS ZONED WITH A BASE ZONING OF SF ONE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD, MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
UM, THE PHASE FIVE IS PART OF A LARGER, UH, MULTI-PHASE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE FINAL PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN THE TOTAL BUILD OUT IS A HUNDRED AND, UH, OR 1097 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 24 OPEN SPACE DRAINAGE LOTS, AND THEN TWO AMENITY LOTS.
UM, PHASE FIVE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH OF PHASE TWO AND WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 1 33.
AND, UM, IS APPROXIMATELY PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 9,377 LINEAR FEET OF PUBLIC ROADWAY.
AND PHASE ONE AND TWO ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO THE SURROUNDING USES ARE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS SF ONE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NORTH SF ONE RESIDENTIAL EAST SF ONE RESIDENTIAL AND SOUTH SF ONE RESIDENTIAL.
AND IT'S ALL ADJACENT TO THE LIDLE WALKER.
UH, OTHER PHASES HERE IS THE PLAT EXHIBIT AND THERE WAS SOME OUTSTANDING ITEMS CALLED OUT BY ENGINEERING.
SO, UM, ONE WAS THE DRAINAGE REPORT BEING OUTDATED AND IT DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT CITY'S ADOPTED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT STANDARDS.
UM, IT ALSO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE, UH, USE OF THE ATLAS 14 RAINFALL DATA AND ROUND ROCK DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL THAT IS ADOPTED AND USED BY THE CITY.
UM, THEY NEED TO UPDATE THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY FLOODPLAIN MAPPING, AND THEY INDICATE THE ATLAS 14, UH, 100 FLOOD 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN ENCROACHES INTO THE SITE.
AND SO IT'S CREATING A NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE UDC.
THERE'S NO DETENTION PROPOSED DESPITE THE INCREASE TO IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UM, AND SO THE SUBMITTAL LACKS THE REQUIRED NO ADVERSE IMPACT JUSTIFICATION FOR THE FLOODPLAIN IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIRED FOR THE UDC AND THE HE RAZ, WHICH IS THE MODELING THAT'S PRODUCED FOR THE FLOODPLAIN MODELS, UM, OF THE AFFECTED CREEK REACH IS REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT NO RISE OF THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED.
AND THEN THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO THE REGIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEE, WHICH, UM, IS APPLICABLE FOR DEVELOPMENTS INCREASING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
UM, WHEN WE GOT THE INFORMATION TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR THE MEETING, WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THE FEE HAD ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED BY, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
SO THAT FEE HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AND
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THEY HAVE MADE THAT PAYMENT.UM, AND THEN THE MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE PLAT DOCUMENT REMAIN OUTSTANDING, PREVENTING COMPLIANCE WITH THE FINAL PLATS STANDARDS.
SO THIS IS UNDER THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HOUSE BILL 31 67 RULE.
SO THAT IS WHY IT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU FOR, UM, REVIEW AND DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
UM, ULTIMATELY THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THE, UH, DEFICIENCIES THAT WERE CALLED OUT, AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO DO THEIR RESUBMITTAL.
UM, SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE FINAL PLAT UNTIL THEY RESOLVED THE ENGINEERING ISSUES, UM, THAT WERE CALLED OUT.
UM, ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I WOULD SAY THE DEVELOPER'S WASTING THEIR TIME UNTIL THEY MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WE CALL THEM TO MEET.
IN MY OPINION, NOT PROVIDING DETENTION OF WATER IS JUST NOPE.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR NO DETENTION? I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE, UM, IF THEY PROVIDED ANY REASONING.
I THINK THEY'RE BASING IT ALL OFF OF THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL FROM THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED YEARS AGO.
AND SINCE OUR STANDARDS HAVE BEEN UPDATED, THE FINAL PLAT WOULD NEED TO BECOME COMPLIANT WITH SOME OF THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE IN IMPLEMENTED AT PREVIOUS.
AT PREVIOUS PHASES NOT INCLUDED AT DETENTION.
I HAVE JUST STARTED, SO I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I, I BELIEVE THE, THE PHASE ONE AND TWO WERE DONE UNDER THE OLD STANDARD.
UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THREE AND FOUR.
THAT ONE, I'M, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO MEET AT LAST 14 STANDARDS.
SO THE, THE OLD ONES ARE NOT GRANDFATHERED IN.
THEY, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE TO PROVIDE DETENTION MM-HMM
THAT WHAT I SEE ON THE PLAQUE MM-HMM
SO THAT'S NO QUESTION THE THE FRONT UPPER AREA WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.
ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS, UH, 172 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND NO PARKLAND.
WHY? SO I, I WANNA SAY THAT THIS WAS ALL PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND SO THERE'S STIPULATIONS THAT WERE CALLED OUT UNDER THAT PARKLAND, UM, DEDICATION THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I'LL BE CERTAIN IT'S IN A PARK.
IT'S IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR BE JUST GUESSING.
NO, I KNOW THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I JUST HAVEN'T READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE PARKLAND, ARE THEY PROVIDING FEE IN LIEU OF, SO LET US KNOW NEXT TIME.
UM, ONE, ONE CONCERN I HAVE REGARDING THIS IS THE CONNECTION TO, UH, CR 1 33 MM-HMM
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED AND IS CONTINUING TO OCCUR ON THAT ROAD.
I'M WONDERING ABOUT WHAT SORT OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION OR TRAFFIC CONTROL THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN PLACE, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE ON THE REST OF THE CITY TO FUND? GOTCHA.
SO IF WE CAN CHECK INTO THAT FOR THE, WHEN I ASSUME WHEN THIS COMES BACK MM-HMM
SO I KNOW AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEY WOULD'VE DONE THE TIA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS DONE.
SO WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THAT AND SEE YEAH.
IF ONE'S BEEN DONE, THAT'S FINE, BUT IF ONE HASN'T BEEN DONE, I WOULD, UH, REALLY LIKE TO SEE ONE.
OH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A-T-I-A-T-I-A AND WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO ABOUT TRAFFIC? RIGHT.
WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF A TIA WAS DONE, WHEN WAS IT DONE? EXACTLY, MM-HMM
WAS IT A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO? MM-HMM
IF SO, THAN A NEW TIAI WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST A NEW TIA TO BE DONE BECAUSE WE'VE GROWN.
HAZEL, DID YOU CLARIFY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE PARKS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT? I DID.
THEY NEED TO PROVIDE PARK LAND, I BELIEVE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT MANY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
YOU HAVE PLENTY OF, UH, OF LAND THERE STILL.
WILL YOU BRING THE PLAT BACK UP? THANK YOU.
SO THE LARGE VACANT PROPERTY BETWEEN THE TWO PHASES IS THAT, UM, IN A FLOODPLAIN?
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AMEN.I WISH I COULD ZOOM IN A PURPLE.
WHAT'S, WHAT IS THAT SHOWING FLOODPLAIN? YEAH, SO THE, THE LITTLE SMALL IMAGE UP THERE.
WITH THE AERIAL SATELLITE VIEW.
BUT THAT DOES SHOW LIKE THE ATLAS 14 FLOODPLAIN LAYER.
SO THAT WAS THE COMMENT FROM ENGINEERING.
THAT'S THE MAP THAT HE PUT IN THERE TO REFERENCE THE ATLAS 14 DATA.
I STILL THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, PARK AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE.
WE'LL CHECK BACK ON THE DA AND SEE WHAT THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS WERE FOR THAT PARKLAND.
I WAS READING THE PLATS JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS PROPER EMS PASSAGE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, IT'S PRETTY WIDE, IT'S WHEN I DID SOME MEASURING.
IS THAT, IS THAT WE SURE THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THE FIRETRUCKS EMS CAN GET THROUGH THERE WITH PARKED CARS ON EITHER SIDE.
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT'S A 32 FOOT MINIMUM.
I DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN, I'M NOT SEEING ANY, YOU KNOW, 15 FOOT ALLEYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THERE.
SO, SO I, I THINK THEY'RE GOOD AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING NEFARIOUS ON THE HIGHLAND SIDE.
YOU GOT CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU, YOU CAN'T GET EMS THROUGH THERE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE CORRECTED THAT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS A 55 FEET.
SO GIVEN WHAT, UH, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ON EACH SIDE? YEAH.
SO WE'RE DOWN TO 45 FEET OF USABLE SPACE.
SO IT SHOULD BE 35 FROM CURB TO CURB.
IF THEY'VE GOT A STANDARD FIVE FOOT GREEN BUFFER BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK.
AND THEN ALSO, IS THAT CORRECT RIGHT AWAYS THAT WE REQUIRE FOR THE CITY? SORRY.
I NOTICED WE HAD RIGHT OF AWAYS IS THAT THE CORRECT RIGHT AWAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL? I BELIEVE IT IS 55 FEET.
OR THEN I NOTICED ALSO FROM THEY'RE GONNA BE A FIRE LANE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET GOING AWAY FROM THE STREET VIEW, THERE WAS RIDE AWAYS FOR UTILITIES AND SUCH.
IS THAT CORRECT? EASEMENTS FOR UTILITIES EASEMENT? YES.
SO WE, WE HAVE ALL THAT IN PLACE THEN MM-HMM
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT, WHERE IT WAS NEEDED TO BE ON THE, ON THE DOCUMENTARY.
THE, THE BIG I'M GONNA SAY MISS IS THE DETENTION AND THE FLOODING ISSUES AND THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE, THE TWO HUGE MISSES.
AND I'M, I'M JUST NOT INCLINED TO LET PEOPLE DEVELOP IN A RIVER BED.
OH NO, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE SLEEPING IN A, IN A POOL PUDDLE OF WATER.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? NO.
THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.1.
OKAY, WELL I WILL AGREE WITH STAFF AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UM, DUE TO THE DRAINAGE, THE FLOODPLAINS, UH, WE NEED CONFIRMATION ON THE PARKLAND ALSO, UM, THAT I QUESTIONED FOR THOSE THINGS.
UH, I'LL SECOND, CAN WE ADD THE TRAFFIC ONTO THAT? AND WE NEED A TIA, UH, UPDATE.
WHEN WAS IT LAST DONE AND, UH, IF IT'S, I THINK IF IT'S WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE MIGHT NEED ANOTHER ONE DONE.
DO WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING? I SECONDED MY BAD EACH.
DO WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING? IT'S, IF THE TIA COMES IN THAT WE NEED SOME, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND SOMETHING THROUGH THAT, THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA COVER THAT.
UH, IT AGAIN, THAT DEPENDS ON THE TIA.
IF ONE HASN'T BEEN DONE THEN YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CARDS TO PLAY WITH.
IF ONE WAS DONE FOUR YEARS AND 11 MONTHS AGO, WE PROBABLY CAN'T MAKE THEM GO BACK AND DO A NEW ONE.
BUT IF IT WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, IN THE 2000 TENS, SURE.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SORRY, I HAVE A, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCHAD AND A SECOND BY MYSELF TO DENY 5.1.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, THEN I WILL CALL FOR VOTE.
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ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.NEXT IS 5.2 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MEADOWBROOK PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT, 47.7 ACRES MORE OR LESS OF LAND 127, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, 20 DUPLEX LOTS AND APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES OF PASSIVE PARKS AND 4.6 ACRES OF ACTIVE PARK SPACE.
GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF FM 1660 AND WEST OF THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY SOUTHEAST LOOP.
DID THAT COMMISSIONERS FOREST WILLIAMS PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, UM, THIS IS THE MEADOWBROOK SUBDIVISION PHASE ONE.
UM, THIS CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 47.7 ACRES UNDEVELOPED LAND.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS IN A PUD SO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2024.
AND IT INCLUDES A PIT, SO A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALONG WITH THAT.
THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2024 AS WELL.
AND THIS IS PHASE ONE, SO IT'S ONLY GONNA CONSIST OF 127 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 20 DUPLEX LOTS, 15 ACRES OF PASSIVE PARKS, UH, 4.6 ACRES OF ACTIVE PARK SPACE.
AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT ALSO INCLUDES NINE ACRES OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, 70 FOOT AND 54 FOOT STREET SECTIONS.
AND THEN PRIMARY ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED FROM FM 1660 AND THEN A SECONDARY FUTURE CONNECTION TO, UH, ANOTHER ARTERIAL STREET, UM, OUT AS SHOWN IN THE MASTER MOBILITY PLAN.
UM, WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS ETJ PER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
EAST IS IT ETJ DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THEN SOUTH IS ANOTHER ETJ DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THE BASE ZONING FOR THE PUD IS SF TWO RESIDENTIAL.
SO SOME OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT WE STILL HAVE FOR THIS IS RELATED TO PARKS.
UM, AND SO WE AS STAFF DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, UH, ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE CONSTITUTED FOR THEM TO BE DENIED TONIGHT THAT THEY COULD PROCEED WITH THIS ITEM BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS DIRECTOR HAS MADE, UM, MADE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE IN COORDINATION WITH HIM ON THESE ITEMS. UM, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SO THAT IS WHY, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS WOULD BE APPROVED, UM, THAT THEY CAN JUST CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THESE ITEMS. UM, WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, I GUESS IF Y'ALL WANTED TO PUT KIND OF A TIMELINE IN PLACE, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD, Y'ALL COULD SAY CHECK BACK IN WITHIN 90 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE OUTSTANDING ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AND SO, UM, JEFF WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
UM, AND THEN WE WERE WAITING FOR SOME GUIDANCE FROM LEGAL, BUT WE HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM THEM ON UM, IF THEY HAD ANY ISSUES WITH US GOING AHEAD WITH THE APPROVAL.
BUT, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S SUBJECT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN ITEMS, UH, OUTLINED FOR THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION IN THERE, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD NECESSARILY DENY THEM FOR.
SO, UM, WELL I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THIS IS JUST, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM
I RECALL THAT THERE WAS COMMERCIAL THAT WAS GOING TO BE PLACED DOWN HERE IN THE BLOCK A, WHICH IS NOW THE PARK OPEN SPACE.
I'M JUST WANTING TO CONFIRM THAT THAT COMMERCIAL IS NO LONGER BEING DEVELOPED.
IT IS BEING CONVERTED OVER TO PARK OPEN SPACE AND PARKS IS OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS OUR UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED, UM, THEY ARE CONVERTING IT TO THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN CONVEYED OVER TO UM, PARKS AND STAFF.
UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMERCIAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
UM, SINCE THEY HAVE THAT PROPOSED ARTERIAL, THAT'S UH, GONNA BE A FUTURE CONNECTION THAT THEY MIGHT BE USING AS THAT POTENTIAL NEW COMMERCIAL SPACE IN FUTURE PHASES.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH 1660 IS GONNA BE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC.
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WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT COMING ONLINE ON 1660? THIS IS GONNA ADD A LOT OF TRAFFIC.SO I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE STATE STANDPOINT.
UM, AND BECAUSE THIS WAS SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE ANY REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO AS FAR AS LIKE TRAFFIC CONTROL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THERE IS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S FOR THE FUTURE ARTERIAL TO CONNECT MM-HMM
UP TO, UH, US 79, UM, WHICH I THINK IS THE REROUTE FOR 1660 TO GO, UH, NORTH INSTEAD OF CUTTING THROUGH TOWN.
SO THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE FUTURE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THE SECOND PART IS I WOULD RATHER PUT A, UH, A STOP GAP IN THERE.
90 DAYS, GET YOUR PARK STUFF TOGETHER BEFORE WE JUST GIVE A BLANK CHECK AND SAVE.
YOU CAN DO IT SO THAT YOU COME BACK AND CHECK THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING NECESSARY THAT WE'VE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO BY 90 DAYS FOR PARKS, 90 DAYS IMAGINARY NUMBER, WHATEVER IS ALLOWABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER'S DOING WHAT THEY'RE SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO AND, AND THEN DON'T WANNA COME BACK A YEAR LATER AND SAY YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
WELL, I, I THINK THAT THE STAFF NOTES THAT INCLUDED THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT BEING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, A POD, A PI, AND THE 90 DAYS FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT IT MM-HMM
AND THEN THEY'LL DO THE RECORDATION.
WERE JUST AT THIS POINT, SINCE WE'RE THE FINAL PAT PLAT APPROVAL, IT DOESN'T GO TO COUNCIL.
WE'RE TELLING STAFF WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.
ONCE THEY CHECK ALL THE BOXES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND RECORD.
I I THINK THAT'S, AS LONG AS THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA YEAH.
IF IF STAFF DOESN'T GET WHAT THEY NEED, THEY'LL RECORD IT THEN, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALESE OF IT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
TO MAKE SURE THAT CITY, THE CITIZENS ARE, HAVE SOMETHING TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU DIDN'T GIVE US WHAT WE WANT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE RETENTION SLASH DETENTION AREA IS OR ARE THEY JUST GOING TO DRAIN INTO THE CREEK? SO BASED ON THE PLAT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF IT IS JUST GONNA BE DETAINED LIKE AS PART OF THE NATURAL FLOODPLAIN AREA.
UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE PROVIDING ANY ADDITIONAL DETENTION AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE ENGINEER HERE TO COMMENT ON
SO IF WE MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, GRANTED THAT THEY SHOW YOU WHERE RETAIN RETENTION AND THE DETENTION FACILITY WILL BE LOCATED AND IF THE CREEK IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR THAT.
I MEAN, I'M GONNA SAY BECAUSE WE ARE PRESENTING IT OKAY.
AS AN APPROVAL THAT ENGINEERING HAS LOOKED AT THE STORMWATER DETENTION REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THAT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY NOTES IN HERE THAT STATED YEAH.
ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THAT MM-HMM
IS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT A LIGHT, I'M SORRY, A LIGHT AT 1660 AND WHAT IS THIS CALLED AGAIN? MEADOWBROOK, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN, UM, AS I SAID I JUST STARTED, SO I'M STILL FIGURING OUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH THEM.
BUT, UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE, IF THERE WAS A TIA DONE, WE CAN SEE IF THERE WAS ANY TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE THAT NEEDED TO BE A PART OF THAT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK ON THAT.
AS FAR AS THE TIA GOES WITH MEADOWBROOK OPENING UP ONTO 1660 IN THE VERY, VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE SOUTHEAST LOOP MM-HMM
I THINK THAT TIA IS GONNA BE WORTH ABOUT AS MUCH AS THE PAPER IT'S WRITTEN ON BECAUSE YEAH.
AS IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF EXIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM
TRAFFIC IS GONNA SHOOT THROUGH THE ROOF AND THAT WASN'T ANTICIPATED.
AND THE TIA THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER DID IT'S COUNTY
COUNTY'S MESSING UP THE TIA NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EVEN PRESS FOR FROM THE DEVELOPER SAYING, HEY, UM,
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EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC COUNT IS.'CAUSE THE COUNTY IS GONNA MESS WITH IT.
WELL, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PHASE ONE HERE.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF CARS ONCE AGAIN OUT ON POSSIBILITY ON 1660 MM-HMM
AND, UH, I MEAN THEY'RE WORKING ON 1 37 WITH THE, WITH THEIR TURNAROUND OR TURNABOUT.
AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE GONNA EXPAND IT OUT FURTHER GOING EAST AND WEST.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IN PROXIMITY THIS IS TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO END, BUT IT'S, I'M JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
I MEAN IT'S BAD NOW AND THERE'S JUST TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES OVER THERE AND SOME HOUSES MM-HMM
WE'RE ADDING A WHOLE BUNCH MORE HOUSES THATWHERE IN THAT AREA AND COULD CAN WE GO, THERE'S ONLY ONE LIGHT ON 1660 AT, WHICH IS AT 1 37 AND WHEN THEY PUT THE TURN AROUND IN THE LOT LIGHT'S GONNA GO WHITE PROBABLY.
WELL GENTLEMEN, LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL GOING OUT THERE AS WELL AND THAT TRAFFIC BACKING UP? NO, THAT'S NEW.
WAIT ON, CAN WE BACK UP ONE? UM, OOH, MAYBE NOT.
THERE WAS ONE SHOWING, OH THERE IT IS.
IT'S IN THE INSET, THE CIRCULAR INSET.
KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT E-T-J-E-T-J-E-T-J-E TJ, E TJ ETJ AND THEN THE, THE ROUNDOUT CITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN IF WE WERE TO DICTATE, HEY, YOU NEED TO DO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DEAD SPACE BETWEEN THAT ROUNDABOUT AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE A, A, A BIT OF HEARTBURN IF I WERE THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY CAME ALONG AND SAID, YOU NEED TO IMPROVE THIS ROAD, BUT OH YEAH.
300 FEET THAT DIRECTION IT'S GONNA BE TORE UP.
NON MAINTAINED COUNTY ROAD AGAIN.
WELL I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ASKING A DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR A LIGHT WHEN THE DEVELOPER IS THE REASON WHY ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE PUT ONTO THAT ROAD.
SO IN MY OPINION, THE DEVELOPER BEARS SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO HELP CONTROL TRAFFIC SOMEHOW OR HOWEVER IN A, A LIGHT.
IF THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT, THEN, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD PUSH TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM THEM TO EITHER, WELL PAY FOR HALF OF IT.
I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE IS FOR MM-HMM
AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WAIVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE PUD OR THE PI, BUT THAT'S HOW WE CAN KIND OF ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY BOUGHT THIS LAND, THEY'RE DEVELOPING THIS LAND AND COUNTY COMES ALONG AND SAYS, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PUT AN EXIT HERE YEAH.
OFF THE FREEWAY, HAVE FUN'S NOT GREAT.
BUT IF THEY'RE PAYING A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE TO THE CITY, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN A LIGHT OR SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.
AND THAT'S TYPICALLY PART OF THE ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
UM, FOR THEM TO DO A-A-A-T-I-A AND GET TRAFFIC COUNT.
UM, SO THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY HERE SO HE CAN HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OKAY.
THAT Y'ALL HAVE, IF THAT IS OKAY.
I'M WITH 5 1 2 CIVIL WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THE PROJECT.
UM, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ON A FEW THINGS.
ONE, THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL PIECE AND WE GOT RID OF IT BECAUSE IT COST SO MUCH MONEY JUST TO GET WASTEWATER TO IT.
IT'S NOT COMING BACK, IT'S NOT BEING USED ANYWHERE ELSE.
UM, REGARDING THE TIA, THERE WAS A TIA DONE.
AND IT WAS APPROVED BACK WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE I WAS WORKING ON IT, BUT IT WAS DONE ALREADY AND IT WAS APPROVED AND IT WAS PART OF THE, UH, I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THE PUD OR THE PUD.
DO YOU RECALL HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS? IF I HAD TO GUESS? UM, THREE YEARS.
MAYBE IT WAS PROBABLY DONE IN 2023 'CAUSE THE
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PUD WAS APPROVED IN 2024.SO THE ACTUAL LIKE TRAFFIC DATA WOULD'VE BEEN PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 5.2.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHERROD AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR WORTZ.
ANY QUESTION OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR VOTE.
NEXT UP IS 6.1 DISCUSSION ONLY.
COMMISSION, DIALOGUE AND DELIBERATION ABOUT INCLUSIONARY MEASURES THE CITY OF HURO CAN IMPLEMENT TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE HER CITIZENS OF ALL APTITUDES AND ABILITIES.
SUBJECT MAY INCLUDE BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO CODE, AMENDMENTS AND ALTERATIONS, STAFF POLICIES, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, EMPOWERMENT AND TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATIONS OF THE EFFORTS TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER KENARD, UH, BROUGHT THIS TO ME, UH, AS, HEY, IS THIS SOMETHING P AND Z SHOULD DO? I WANNA SAY ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO MM-HMM
AND I SAID, THIS IS PERFECT TO TAKE TO DEIB AND GET THEIR EXPERTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS BECAUSE I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON ANY SORT OF A DA NEURO DIVER, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH TRAINING.
SO HE WENT AND TALKED TO THEM AND THEN HE CAME ALONG AND DEVELOPED AN 86 PAGE
THIS COVERS EVERYTHING FROM CITY COUNCIL AND BUDGETING DOWN TO THE COMMUNICATIONS STAFF.
DOWN TO DEIB, BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING PARKS, HPC, EVERYBODY,
SO I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE CITY'S GOT A PIECE THAT THEY CAN PULL OUT OF THIS DOCUMENT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO EAT THE WHOLE 86 PAGE ELEPHANT, BUT THERE ARE PIECES THAT CERTAINLY LOOK TASTY TO ME.
SO JUST WANTED TO PREFACE IT WITH THAT.
AND YOU HONCHO YOU HONCHO THIS.
WELL, I WROTE A LITTLE, WROTE A LITTLE SUMMARY OF THE 86 PAGE DOCUMENT.
IF YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE LIBERTY, I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND IT KIND OF GIVES SOME HIGH LEVEL AREA OF IT.
AND WHAT I THINK WOULD DO FOR THE CITY, EXCUSE ME.
I'VE RESEARCHED WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR HUDDLE TO BECOME A NEUROD DIVERSION INCLUSIVE AND BIO DIVERSION CERTIFIED COMMUNITY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REFERENCE THE NEURODIVERSITY DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE CITY AND REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
THE DOCUMENT OUTLINES PRACTICAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDENTIFIES OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE ACCESSIBLE, WELCOMING AND FUNCTIONAL GENERAL DIVERGENT RESIDENTS, FAMILIES, EMPLOYEES, AND VISITORS.
THE BENEFITS OF IMPLE IMPLEMENTING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS EXTEND BEYOND THE NEURODIVERGENT COMMUNITY.
NEURO INCLUSIVE DESIGN AND PLANNING PRACTICES CAN IMPROVE WAY FINDING, REDUCE SENSORY BARRIERS, INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY, ENHANCE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, CREATE AND CREATE A MORE USER FRIENDLY PUBLIC SPACES FOR EVERYONE.
THESE IMPROVEMENTS CAN ALSO STRENGTHEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY ATTRACTING FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND VISITORS WHO VALUE INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES.
I ALSO ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY.
COMMUNITIES THAT PRIORITIZE ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION ARE OFTEN MORE ATTRACTIVE TO EMPLOYERS, DEVELOPERS, RESIDENTS, AND VISITORS.
NEURO INCLUSIVE PLANNING CAN ALSO SUPPORT WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION, INCREASE ENGAGEMENT IN COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, ENHANCE TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES, AND STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S REPUTATION IS A FORWARD THINKING AND WELCOMING PLACE TO LIVE AND DO BUSINESS.
MANY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO FUTURE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PUBLIC FACILITIES,
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PARKS, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITH MINIMAL ADDITIONAL COSTS WHEN CONSIDERED EARLY IN DESIGN PROCESS.BUT PLANNING INCLUSIVE INCLUSIVELY FROM THE OUTSET, THE CITY CAN AVOID MORE EXPENSIVE RETROFITS IN THE FUTURE WHILE CREATING LASTING VALUE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND ITS BUSINESSES ALIKE.
AS THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AND ZONING DECISIONS COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENT AND INCORPORATE NEURO INCLUSIVE DESIGN PRINCIPLES WHEREVER FEASIBLE.
BY TAKING THESE STEPS, OUR CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A RE REGIONAL LEADER IN ACCESSIBILITY, INCLUSION, INNOVATION AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
ONE THING, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS, LAST NIGHT I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH, UH, COUPLE CITIZENS AND I SAID, AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON NEURODIVERGENT AT ALL, BUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE TO ME WOULD MAKE HARO MORE COMFORTABLE.
AND I THINK A MORE COMFORTABLE HARO KIND OF HELPS TO RECAPTURE THAT, THAT SMALL TOWN CHARM THAT EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT, BUT NO ONE CAN REALLY QUANTIFY.
AND I THINK THIS HELPS TO QUANTIFY THAT ALSO HAVING A, AN ADOPTED SON WHO IS AUTISTIC.
UH, VERY HIGH FUNCTIONING ON THE SPECTRUM.
UH, MY NEIGHBOR NEXT TO US ALSO HAS A 40-YEAR-OLD SON WHO IS AUTISTIC, IS ON THE SPECTRUM.
AND EVERY FLAVOR AUTISM'S DIFFERENT JUST 'CAUSE YOU THINK YOU KNOW AUTISM, YOU DO NOT KNOW AUTISM BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE'S AUTISM IS DIFFERENT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH AS A FAMILY IS HAVING THE ACCESSIBILITY.
ACCESSIBILITY IS A BIG PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THEY NEED TO SIDEWALKS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOT BEATING US UP.
'CAUSE WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THOSE SIDEWALKS THERE IN THE SIP PROJECT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CONTINUE NEED TO PUSH AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO WALK THE CITY, TO BE ABLE TO GO PLACES AND FEEL SECURE IF THEY NEED HELP, BE ABLE TO FEEL CONFIDENT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY, A BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA HELP 'EM.
AND WHEN EMS OR FIRE OR POLICE SHOW UP, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE SCARED OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN WHICH I BELIEVE WE ALREADY DO A GOOD JOB IN THAT AS A COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
I DID SPEAK TO, UH, ASSISTANT DWAYNE, EXCUSE ME, ASSISTANT CHIEF DWAYNE.
AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT ALREADY.
UH, I ALSO BELIEVE WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE TASKING THEM TO DO A LOT ABOVE THAN WHAT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT ALREADY.
UH, LAST YEAR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAD A INCIDENT IN THE HIGHLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS A MENTAL HEALTH BREAKDOWN.
UNFORTUNATELY, POLICE HAD TO NEUTRALIZE THE SITUATION.
AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED HU AND I LIKE TO SEE LESS OF NEUTRALIZATION WHEN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS TAKES PLACE.
AND LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT PREEMPTIVELY BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT.
NOW THE GENTLEMAN LOST HIS JOB.
I WORK IN TECH BACK WHEN I USED TO DO THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN TECH ARE ON THE SPECTRUM.
THEY EITHER KNOW OR THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT HE WORKED IN TECH AND HE LOST HIS JOB.
AND IT SAID POLICE HAD AN LICENSE SITUATION.
AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT'S HAPPENED IN HU I PROPOSE WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
AND SO THE, THE THE PAGE SPEAKS, MY, MY DOCUMENT SPEAKS ABOUT TOURISM, IT SPEAKS ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT WE'LL BRING IN FOR A COMMUNITY, FOR COMMERCIAL CITIZENS, UH, THAT WANT TO COME HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH THINGS IN PLAY.
AND THEY'LL GO AGAIN, PARKS HAVING GOOD PARKS.
THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING ABOUT PARKS, HAVING GOOD PARKS TO COME IN.
UH, THERE'S TRAINING WITHIN THE CITY, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OF HOW TO HANDLE SUCH CITIZENS.
AND WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THE UDC IN SOME AREAS TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT.
ONE, ONE OF MY, MY THOUGHTS, AND THIS IS KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT WITH THE COMFORT IS WE'RE A SUBURB OF AUSTIN, BUT I, MY GIRLFRIEND IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT AND SHE DOESN'T LIKE TO GO DOWN
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TO AUSTIN ANYMORE.AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HAVING ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THEIR TOURISM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF WE CAN KIND OF FLIP THE SCRIPT AS A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW WHAT, YEAH, MAYBE WE ARE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, MAYBE WE ARE A SUBURB, BUT WE'RE COMFORTABLE, WE'RE ACCOMMODATING AND THIS ISN'T A BAD PLACE TO BE.
AND THEN GO FIGHT TRAFFIC AND GO TO FIGHT THE CROWDS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF FOR THE EVENT IN AUSTIN.
BUT COME BACK TO HU SO I CAN REALLY SEE WHERE IT WOULD DRIVE TOURISM.
YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN YOUR TAX BASE AND I DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I KNOW MONEY TAKES TO OPERATE THE CITY, BUT LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE DO THIS.
WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT MONEY.
REMEMBER WE'RE DOING THIS FOR 15 TO 20% OF THE CITIZENS.
AND I WAS SUPPOSED SPEAKING WITH ONE OF THE EXPERTS THAT SAID THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST 20% STUDENT POPULATION WHO IS ON THE SPECTRUM.
THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE OTHER ADULT CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT BEING COUNTED IN THAT POPULATION.
AND SO THEN YOU'D HAVE SPECIAL DISTRICTS CREATED FROM THIS, UM, UH, SAID THE ROI FOR THE CITY, FOR ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR MONEY BACK AND THEN SOME, AND IT JUST TAKES PLANNING.
IT TAKES THE CITIZENS GET INVOLVED.
THAT'S HOW WE MAINTAIN OUR CITY, IS THE CITIZENS STAY INVOLVED AND SAY, THIS IS WHO WE ARE.
WE'RE OPEN, WE'RE FRIENDLY, WE HAVE EVENTS DOWNTOWN, AND WE'RE A SMALL TOWN FEEL.
I HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND INCORPORATE EVERYBODY AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
THERE'S MANY GRANTS OUT THERE THAT THE CITY CAN PROPOSE TO GO GET THE MONEY TO DO THIS.
UH, THE TAXPAYER IS NOT ON THE HOOK.
THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT.
UM, BY NO MEANS BY SAYING, LET'S GO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY AND WHERE'S OUR MONEY GOING? HOW DO WE GET THAT MONEY? HOW DO WE GET THAT MONEY BACK? I'M ABOUT BEING FINANCIAL CONSERVATIVE HERE.
AND, UH, SO I DON'T HAVE MY DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME AGAIN.
I DON'T WANNA BE HERE TILL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE THEN IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE? HOPEFULLY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHERE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GET TOGETHER WITH THE CITY STAFF SECTIONS TO PIECE OUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD COMMUNICATIONS PIECE.
THIS IS A GOOD PIECE FOR PARKS, THIS IS A GOOD PIECE FOR PLANNING.
AND WE START KIND OF PIECING OUT, UH, I'LL CALL IT AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE'VE GOT A BASE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING OFF OF.
WE'RE ALL WORKING OFF THE SAME SHEET.
WE'RE JUST PLAYING DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS.
AND THERE'S OTHER CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE DONE THIS.
AR MESA, ARIZONA HAS DONE THIS.
NEW YORK CITY HAS DONE THIS, AND EACH HAVE DONE IT ACCORDING TO THEIR, WHO THEY ARE AS A FABRIC OF THEIR CITIZENS.
AND WE'D BE THE FIRST TEXAS CITY IF WE DID THIS AND WAS CERTIFIED BY THE ORGANIZATION, WE'D BE THE FIRST CITY IN TEXAS TO BE CERTIFIED COMPLETELY.
THEY TRY, BUT THEY'VE MISSED THE MARK WHEN I'VE RESEARCHED THEIR MM-HMM
THEIR CERTIFIED CITY AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, AGAIN, THEY'RE TRYING TO BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE.
AND I TIP MY HAT TO THEM, BUT THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT THAT AUSTIN COULD DO THERE.
AND WE'RE AT A GROWING POINT AT THE JUNCTURE WHERE WE COULD DO THIS.
WE'RE AT 40,000 POPULATION AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THAT, THAT FINAL STEP, THAT BIG STEP, THAT FIRST INITIAL STEP THAT WHERE WE COULD REALLY COME IN AND SHOW THE REST OF TEXAS, HEY, HUDDLES ON THE MAP, WE DID THIS AND THIS IS HOW WE DID IT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE COULD BE THE, THE CONSULTANT FOR THE REST OF THE CITIES OUTSIDE OF TEXAS.
SO I'LL ASK P AND Z, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A WORK SESSION? WELL, ACTUALLY, YEAH, HERE WE GO.
I I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS EITHER, BUT I THINK THE QUESTIONS AT LEAST CAN, WE CAN HELP YOU SORT, SORT OF FORMULATE, I THINK ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO REFINE THIS SO THAT WE CAN DEFINE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I, I'VE TRIED TO, I'VE TRIED TO BREAK THIS DOWN INTO SOME QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO WRITE
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THESE DOWN OR I CAN REPEAT THEM AS NECESSARY.BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, DOES, DOES P AND Z LEAD THIS THIS EFFORT OR DOES PNZ FACILITATE THIS EFFORT? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, I, I THINK YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CHARGE, YOUR YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES GIVE YOU QUITE A BIT OF AUTHORITY AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A LITTLE BIT OF GATEKEEPING FOR WHAT DOES AND DOESN'T OCCUR IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF THE CITY.
SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BRING THE PRODUCT OF THEIR EFFORTS TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OR PERMISSION, OR TO MOVE THEIR MISSION FORWARD SO THAT SOMETHING CAN BECOME CODE, OR SOMETHING CAN BECOME POLICY IN, IN THE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE, UM, THE, THE DESTINATION FOR OTHERS' PRODUCT AND AT LEAST A STEP ON THEIR TRAIL, OR DO WE ACTUALLY DEVELOP THAT ORGANICALLY FROM START TO FINISH? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO CAN, CAN I, I HAVE MORE, BUT YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UM, I THINK FROM THE P AND Z STANDPOINT, SO MUCH OF THIS IS REGARDING THE FUTURE, KIND OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND IF WE CAN START BAKING THAT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN OTHER STAFF SECTIONS, OTHER BOARDS CAN TAKE THEIR MARCHING ORDERS FROM THE CONS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALL PLAYING DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS, BUT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
AND YEAH, THERE'S, I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF IT BECAUSE THERE ARE BUDGETARY ITEMS IN HERE AND WE DON'T DO BUDGET.
AND YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THIS IS MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT IF A BOARD OR A STAFF SECTION WANTS TO, I'M GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, BORROW OUR HORSEPOWER BECAUSE WE ARE FAIRLY POWERFUL.
IF THEY WANNA BORROW OUR HORSEPOWER, GO FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN HELP PUSH THIS.
I MEAN, JUST, JUST LIKE BRIAN WENT TO DEIB 'CAUSE NOT OUR LANE TO TALK ABOUT NEURODIVERGENCY, BUT TO INCORPORATE NEURODIVERGENCY ACCOMMODATIONS AND PLANS IS DEFINITELY OUR LANE.
THAT, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE IT.
JUST THAT AS WE FURTHER REFINE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEELING OF THE SENTIMENT OF, OF THIS ITEM, UM, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, ALMOST CREATE SYLLABUS, SORT AN OUTLINE MM-HMM
BASICALLY JUST SOME TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND MM-HMM
UM, SO THE SECOND QUESTION I COME UP WITH IS, IS WHO TO INCLUDE.
AND LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU SAID DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND BELONGING, I THINK IT'S BAKED RIGHT INTO THE NAME AND, AND HOW THEY'RE CHARTERED AND WHAT THEY DO IS, IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
IT IS THERE LANE, I, I I I THINK THAT IF I WERE GOING TO APPROACH SOMEWHAT OF AN, AN ORACLE OF AUTHORITY, I, I WOULD GO TO THEM WITH MY, MY QUESTIONS OR MY INTEREST OR, OR WHATEVER I CAN OFFER MM-HMM
UM, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE, THE PLACE THAT WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE MAKE THEM A PART OF THIS.
UM, THE THIRD I HAVE, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, IS TONIGHT'S EFFORT ONE OFF OR ONGOING? MEANING ARE ARE WE WORKING TOWARDS A PROJECT OR A PROCESS? UM, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
AND I THINK THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO REFINE THAT.
BUT I THINK BEFORE TONIGHT THERE WAS NOT AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
BY THE END OF TONIGHT, THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN EFFORT, BUT THERE'LL BE MORE THOUGHT THAT GOES INTO IT.
AND BEFORE I GET TOO MUCH FURTHER, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T FORGET THAT OUR, OUR GUESTS THAT WE'VE INVITED TONIGHT, I'M SURE THEY WANNA GIVE US A LOT OF INPUT, SO MM-HMM
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THEM AS WELL.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY CAN HELP REFINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ONE-OFF ONGOING OR ONGOING SESSIONS OF, YOU KNOW, ONE-OFF PRODUCTS THAT WE, THAT WE WORK TOWARDS.
UM, THE, THE, WHAT IS THE, THE PRODUCT OF THE DISCUSSION.
AND I THINK IT GOES A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, DELIVERY OF THAT PRODUCT OR PROCESS WOULD BE, WOULD BE THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS HOW, HOW WILL TONIGHT'S PRODUCT DIRECT STAFF, 'CAUSE AT THE, AT THE END OF ALL THIS, WE DO SERVE AS, YOU KNOW, SERVICE TO OUR BOARDS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS SERVICE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE'S AN ACTION ITEM FOR US WITH, YOU KNOW, TIME METRICS AND PERSONNEL METRICS AND, YOU KNOW, DESTINATION METRICS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN, UM, PUT TOGETHER SO THAT WE'RE, OUR EFFORTS ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT JUST SENTIMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY ACTIONS.
SO, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I PUT TOGETHER, UM, THAT I, I'D LIKE TO USE THAT TO FRAME TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION.
AND THERE ARE OTHERS I'M SURE WHO ARE
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WAY FURTHER ALONG IN THIS THOUGHT PROCESS THAN I AM WHO CAN PROBABLY ANSWER SOME AND THEN ACTUALLY OFFER YOU SOME MORE QUESTIONS.SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD.
UM, WELL, IS THERE, UM, SOMETHING WE DO IF WE DECIDE WE WANNA MAKE A COMMENT? OKAY.
I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE WE BEAT IT TO DEATH WITH OUR COMMENTS.
I, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY, PROBABLY JUST DO A LITTLE PUBLIC COMMENT SIGN UP.
IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? A LITTLE PUBLIC COMMENT SIGN UP? WELL, THAT WAY WE'VE GOT NAME AND SUBJECT AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF.
JUST RICK, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS CREATED, THAT THE BOARD HAD REVIEWED MM-HMM
WAS CREATED TO HELP GIVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE CITY FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.
SO DURING ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN THE DECIPHERING OF EVERYTHING.
SO IT DID NOT GET LOST FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND BUILD AT THE END THAT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE WANTED AT THE END OF THIS, THAT WE GET A PRODUCT THAT WE WANT.
SO, UH, I THOUGHT THOSE WERE VERY SOLID THOUGHT PROVOKING QUESTIONS.
UM, MY FIRST ONE, MY, ON, ON THE QUESTION TOO IS I THINK, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I THINK AT ALMOST EVERY BOARD COMMISSION AND STAFF SECTION IN THE CITY HAS A PIECE THAT PERTAINS TO THEM GREAT.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHO WOULDN'T, AND I'M, I'M JUST COMING UP EMPTY.
I BELIEVE THE CHAMBER ALSO HAS A PIECE HERE.
BUT NOT BEING A CITY ORGANIZATION, WE CAN'T REALLY DIRECT THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EDC, UH, POLICE, I THINK COMMUNICATIONS, UH, EVERYBODY, MAYBE UTILITIES DOESN'T, MAYBE
AND, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK EVERYONE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, A BITE TO TAKE OUT OF THIS.
AND FOR, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT ROLE IS, WHAT THAT AGENCY IS, IT COULD BE A PROCESS OR IT COULD BE A PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS MAKING ALL OF THE STREET STREET SIGNS UNIFORM, THAT'S A PROJECT.
SO I, I THINK AS, AS WE DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, WHO'S DOING WHAT, I THINK WE CAN START TO DEVELOP PROJECTS AND PROCESSES.
ONE OF THE MAJOR PROCESSES WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH INVOLVES A LOT OF TRAINING OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
AND JUST SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
'CAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T DO SOMETHING INTO DARK.
WELL, WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE TO TALK.
SO LET'S BRING UP, UH, IDA WEAVER.
I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED.
UM, BUT I WANT TO YOU TO CONSIDER THE NON FOR SURE.
INPUT FROM THE NON-PROFITS WHO IN THE CITY WHO ARE ALREADY WORKING IN THIS AREA.
AND I CAN RECOMMEND AT LEAST ONE FOR SURE.
AND ALSO, UH, I HAVE A GOOD FRIEND WHO IS NEURODIVERGENT, UH, DUE TO A REALLY BAD CAR ACCIDENT, BUT SHE IS CERTIFIED IN THIS AREA, NOT IN THE STATE.
BUT, UH, SHE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL WITH THIS AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE HER INVOLVED.
HE'S, SHE'S ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UH, BRIAN ABOUT IT.
SO THAT'S ALL I WELL, THANK YOU.
IF, IF WE CAN, AGAIN, MY OPINION YEAH.
IF WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A WORKSHOP TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET COMMUNICATIONS TO START REACHING OUT TO THE NONPROFITS AND TO JUST COM GENERAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS MM-HMM
WE COULD TURN THIS INTO A REAL COMMUNITY INPUT SESSION.
UH, PROCESS AND, AND REALLY MAKE SOMETHING GOOD.
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NOT, NOT NECESSARILY THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.I THINK THIS COULD BE A GENERATOR, BRING THE C COMMUNITY BACK TOGETHER TO FRAGMENT IT, PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO NEXT UP WE'VE GOT, UH, MORGAN HUBBARD.
FIRST, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TOPIC FORWARD.
I THINK, UM, YOU WILL FIND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NEURODIVERGENCE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY THINK ABOUT CHILDREN WITH AUTISM, BUT THEY'RE ADULTS WITH AUTISM.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WENT AND SERVED THEIR COUNTRY AND DUE TO UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WAR, THEY CAME HOME WITH, YOU KNOW, TBIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAN WE EVEN REALIZE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THIS IDEA OF CREATING COMFORT IS SUCH A, A GENIUS PHRASING TO IT BECAUSE THE, THE SENSORY ELEMENTS DO IMPACT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER KENARD IN THE, IN THE FOYER, UM, I JUST WAS STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHO ARE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE PIECES TO THIS PUZZLE? BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON.
YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WITH ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF EXPERTISE THAT COULD LEND THEIR, UM, EFFORTS.
BUT ALSO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF THIS WERE TO BECOME A COMMUNITY-WIDE EDUCATION EFFORT, I KNOW DEIB HAVE ALREADY HAS ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO LOOK UP JUST ONE LEVEL ABOVE WHAT IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALREADY DOING? WHAT ARE OUR JPS DOING? AND SO I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF CONNECTED AGENCIES THAT ARE MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF HUDU, BUT OVERLAY THE CITY OF HUDU IN GETTING ALL THOSE PEOPLE TO THE TABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
NOT NECESSARILY COMMITTING TO ONE CERTAIN THING, BUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL THE EDUCATION PIECES IN PLACE.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO HELP THE COMMUNITY LEARN HOW TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE, UM, NEURODIVERGENCE ELEMENTS.
BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WORDS TO DISCUSS IT, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY OR HOW TO SAY IT IN A RESPECTFUL WAY.
AND SO I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED AND EXCITED, UM, THAT THIS TOPIC CAME FORWARD.
AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL FIND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'D BE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING SOME OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN THIS SPACE.
AND I KNOW, UM, WE HAVE THE ASSISTANT SPECIAL EDUCATION DIRECTOR HERE FROM HU DO ISD, AND SHE IS ALREADY, UM, GRACIE MCINTOSH.
UM, SHE'S ALREADY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN HAVING THE DISTRICT BE INVOLVED.
UM, I'M CERTAIN THAT, UM, THE AREA FIREFIGHTERS WOULD BE INVOLVED.
LIKE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND IF WE ALL GOT IN THE SAME SPACE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, HOW POWERFUL COULD THAT BE FOR THIS COMMUNITY? SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
SO ONE, ONE THING I'D KIND OF LIKE TO ADD ON TO THAT EDUCATION, AND I'M GONNA SAY OUTREACH.
I THINK YOUR WHITE PAPER HERE GOES ONE STEP FURTHER AND STARTS ADDRESSING ACTION ITEMS. YES SIR.
ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE AS A COMMUNITY BEYOND JUST EDUCATING PEOPLE, THIS IS ACTUALLY MAKING CHANGES IN THE COMMUNITY.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
DID WE WANT DIB TO SPEAK? UH, SORRY, I CAN'T READ IT.
I'M AT E I'M ACTUALLY A COMMISSIONER FOR THE DEIB, UM, OR ON THE DEIB COMMISSION.
UM, SO I THINK A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HEARD HAS BEEN GREAT.
UM, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ, UM, THE, THE PAPER YET.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY WHAT THIS COMMISSION CAN DO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT OR I GUESS WOULD INTRODUCE INTO THE CONVERSATION IS LOOKING AT, UM, NEURODIVERGENCE THE SAME WAY WE LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
AND, AND THEY HAVE, UM, WHAT ARE CALLED, UM, SORRY, I WROTE IT DOWN HERE.
UM,
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE BUILDING THE CITY, INCORPORATING THAT INTO WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES, AND I THINK THAT THE, THE GREATER COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY HAVE A, A SENSE OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT, WHAT TARGETS WE WANT TO HIT, RIGHT.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE, ORDINANCES, DECIBELS, LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD INTO THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL EVERY SINGLE TIME.
SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF BRING INTO THE CONVERSATION
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ABOUT KIND OF WHO OWNS WHAT, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS COMMISSION, WE THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIRECTION THAT WOULD KIND OF SUIT YOUR EXPERTISE IS THESE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN, DO THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT? YOU KNOW, ARE THEY BEING REQUESTED TO DO THAT IN OTHER CITIES OR IN OTHER PROJECTS? AND IF NOT, ARE WE THE FIRST ONES ASKING THEM FOR THAT? AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE COULD BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF KIND OF CREATING THAT AND BAKING THAT INTO HOW THIS, THIS CITY GROWS AND, AND BUILDS.SO YEAH, COMMISSIONER, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS OF THAT, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID THAT'S A GOOD TITLE TO CALL THAT.
AND IT'S ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, I'VE ALSO ADDRESSED SOME OF THE DB THAT THIS FALSE AND SENSORY IN THAT, IN THAT PAPER.
KIND OF DOVETAILING ON THAT, UH, I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DATA CENTER AND ALL OF THAT, AND A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT CAME UP MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, FALL UNDER THE BIG UMBRELLA OF ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, BUT A LOT OF THEM I THOUGHT WERE SENSORY FACTORS.
AND I'VE BEEN NECK DEEP IN THE UDC FOR A WHILE AND I NOTICED THAT YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND WE JUST KIND OF FALL BACK ON THE STATE.
WELL, IF WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE STATE IS DOING, WE SHOULD BAKE THAT IN.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THAT'S AN ACTION ITEM FOR US AS THE PNZ TO PUT THAT KIND OF THING IN, MAKE THAT INTO OUR CODE FOR THE FUTURE.
I MOST CERTAINLY AGREE AND SENSORY IS A BIG PART OF WHAT PEOPLE ON THE SPECTRUM AND WHO ARE NEURODIVERGENT DEAL WITH.
MY SON, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN HE GOES, WE GO TUESDAY, TREAT DAY IS THE NIGHT THAT WE GO OUT.
HE'S BEEN DOING IT SINCE HE'S FOUR YEARS OLD.
SO ANYBODY KNOWS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE AUTISTIC, THEY LIKE REGULARITY, THEY LIKE EVERYTHING TO BE JUST THE SAME, WHETHER IT STARTED THE DAY OR 20 YEARS AGO.
AND WHEN WE GO TO A RESTAURANT, SOMETIMES HE JUST HAS TO GO OUTSIDE BECAUSE THE, THE CHILDREN GET SCREAMING OR IT'S THE LIGHTS, IT SET THE KIDS OFF.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE NOT SAYING KICK THE KICK THE PARENTS OR THE KIDS OUT OF THE RESTAURANT, BUT WE CAN CREATE IN A UDC THAT THE RESTAURANTS NEED TO CREATE A SENSORY SPACE FOR, UH, SUCH THINGS.
AND THAT'S ALSO IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I WROTE SOME, SOME IDEAS ABOUT THAT.
AND I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO SO FAR AS TO MANDATE MM-HMM
HOW A, UH, BUSINESS, INDEPENDENT BUSINESS OPERATES OR IS BUILT.
BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS BAKE INTO CODE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IF YOU TAKE THESE STEPS, THEN YOU GET THIS, IT KINDA LIKE THE, UH, TRANSPARENCY STARS THAT THE CITY GETS.
IF YOU DO THIS, THE CITY WILL COME ALONG AND CERTIFY YOU AS A, I DON'T KNOW, SENSORY SAFE PLACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU DON'T DO IT, THAT'S ON YOU.
YOU'RE NO PENALTY NO HARM, NO FALL.
BUT IF YOU DO IT, YOU CAN HANG THIS IN YOUR WINDOW IN THE DOVETAIL WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT RICK, I DID A LITTLE LEGAL RESEARCH AND WE'RE NOT, THE CITY WOULD NOT BE IN A, IN A LAWSUIT TYPE AREA.
WHEN I DID SOME RESEARCH, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS, ON THE CERTIFICATION SIDE WOULD NOT CREATE A LEGAL LEGALITY FOR THE CITY TO BE IN TROUBLE.
AND, UH, NEXT UP WE'VE GOT, UH, GRACE MACINTOSH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS GRACE MCINTOSH, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EDUCATION.
AND HOW DO ISD UM, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THIS ENDEAVOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR, UM, BIG, BIG INITIATIVES THIS YEAR IS WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
AND, UM, ONE OF OUR HIGHLIGHTS IS WE HAVE OUR 18 PLUS PROGRAM THAT COMES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND DOES WORK AND, UM, LEARNS HOW TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, TO KIND OF BE IN THE FOREFRONT.
AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE OUR FULL SUPPORT AND WE'RE READY TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN TO OFFER EXPERTISE, TO OFFER GUIDANCE.
AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO PUSH THIS TEAM EVEN FURTHER TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE WORD COMFORT IS WONDERFUL, BUT ALSO THE VALUE THAT OUR, UM, STUDENTS AND OUR ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES ADD TO THE COMMUNITY BY GIVING THEM THESE RESOURCES AND TOOLS
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TO BE, UM, TO BE WITH THEIR PEERS.AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT VALUE ADDED BY WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY BY GIVING THEM ACCESSIBLE TOOLS.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY, UM, WE'RE READY TO PARTNER WHEN WHEN YOU ARE.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UH, 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
ARE YOU PARTNERING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM WITH U CHECK AND TSTC? WE DO, YES.
BECAUSE IT, MY, TO MY MIND IT'S, YOU KNOW, 18 YEARS OLD.
YOU'RE GRADUATED, YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR AND YOU'RE KIND OF SENT INTO THE WILD.
YEAH, WE HAVE, BUT, BUT IF WE'RE PARTNERING WITH HIGHER EDUCATION AS WELL, YES.
THEN THAT'S KIND OF A, UH, A BRIDGE IF YOU WILL.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT PROJECT SEARCH? I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY MEANINGFUL.
SO WE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL KIND OF LAYERS OF OUR CONTINUUM SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES TO HELP THEM PREPARE THEM FOR THE WORKFORCE.
SO WE HAVE OUR VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR 18 PLUS PROGRAMS. UM, WE HAVE TWO.
ONE IS HIPPOS CONNECT THAT THEY WORK ON JUST REFINING JOB SKILLS, LIFE SKILLS.
AND THEN WE HAVE PROJECT SEARCH WHERE THIS YEAR WE PARTNERED WITH TWO AGENCIES.
WE'VE PARTNERED WITH A HOSPITAL AND KALAHARI AND STUDENTS GO OUT AND PERFORM INTERNSHIPS.
UM, AND THEY, A LOT OF STUDENTS ACTUALLY WILL GET HIRED.
SO AT OUR HOSPITAL WE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS GET HIRED FOR JOBS, UM, FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, FOR OUR HIPPOS CONNECT WILL GO OUT AND PROVIDE, UM, SUPPORTS OF LIKE LEARNING HOW TO, UM, CLEAN TABLES, WASH DISHES, DO ALL SORTS OF LIFE SKILLS, PARTNERING WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO KIND OF LEARN THOSE SKILLS NECESSARY, NECESSARY TO APPLY FOR JOBS LATER.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE 18 PROGRAM, 18 PLUS PROGRAM.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN CREATING HOW WELL IS THAT COMBINE AND WORK WITH AND, AND MAKE THAT PROGRAM STRONGER? WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ABOUT THAT? HOW TO MAKE IT STRONGER? WOULD THE 18 PLUS PROGRAM BE ABLE TO BE INCORPORATED IN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY POTENTIAL FOR THAT, FOR SURE.
I WAS TALKING TO MORGAN EARLIER, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, WE SAY, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME UNLESS I'M THERE.
DON'T TALK ABOUT ME UNLESS I AM IN THE ROOM.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THESE EXACT THINGS, GIVE THEIR OPINION ON WHAT, UM, THEY FEEL LIKE WOULD BE HELPFUL AS THEY MOVE FORWARD TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS IN, IN HUDU.
UH, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE CONTEXT TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE IS, MY SON GRADUATED FROM CEDAR PARK.
UH, HE WAS THE FIRST AUTISTIC, UH, STUDENT AT LEANDER ISD.
AND THAT MOST OF THE, WHAT'S BASED IN TEXAS AND ON AUTISM IS BASED ON HIM.
THAT CAME FROM HIM FROM, UH, LEANER.
JUST WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS.
'CAUSE I USED TO TO WORK IN, IN LEANER AND I MAY MAY HAVE HEARD OF HIM.
UH, LET'S SEE, UH, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER FACES IN THE CROWD HERE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS OR CHAIRS.
UH, ANYTHING TO ADD? UM, WELL, UM, I'M THE CHAIR OF, UH, DEIB COMMISSION.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA APPLAUD, UM, MR. ARD RIGHT THERE FOR BRINGING THIS TO ATTENTION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, AS THE COMMISSION ARE, UM, MAKING THIS OUR TOP PRIORITY FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THE COMING YEAR, UH, NEURODIVERGENCE AND TALK ABOUT NEURODIVERGENCE.
AND THAT'S JUST GETTING STARTED.
SO I'M, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMISSION THERE'S OTHER EYES LOOKING AT THIS AND OTHER DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF DIFFERENT OTHER DIFFERENT, UH, DIRECTIONS AND VISIONS.
SO JUST EXCITED WHAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS.
UH, UH, FIRST OF FIRST, MY NAME IS JOSE DE LA CRUZ.
UH, I OWNED LA MIANA PLUS HERE IN HUDDLE.
WE OPENED IN 2024 AND UH, WHEN WE FIRST OPENED OUR FIRST YEAR, UH, WE GOT INVOLVED ALSO WITH, WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
FOR US, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AS, UH, BEING OPEN FOR, FOR ONE YEAR.
UM, BUT WE PARTNERED WITH NEW DAY CENTER THAT WAS DOWN HERE.
AND, UH, WE GAVE THESE KIDS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND HELP US.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS IN THE MORNING, IT WAS LIGHT DUTY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GIVE 'EM ICE CREAM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SO HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE THERE
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AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND TO DO SOMETHING.AND I FEEL LIKE, UH, THIS, THIS, UM, NEO DIVERGENT, UH, ACT AND, AND MOVEMENT THAT'S TRYING TO GET PUT ON, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY FOR THE DISABILITY PEOPLE, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME INTO MY BUSINESS WITH DISABILITY AND WE TRY OUR BEST TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY, ESPECIALLY IN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE IT'S ALWAYS JAM PACKED.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I TRY TO ALWAYS ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE CAN, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BRING A LOT OF DIFFERENT VIEWS, NOT ONLY FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES COMING INTO HUDDLE.
YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SYSTEM IN PLAY.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, DID I MISS ANYONE? OKAY.
SO I THINK, I THINK MOVING FORWARD WE SHOULD PROBABLY, I DUNNO, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, I'M JUST SPIT BALLING HERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT A, CALL IT A WORK SESSION, BUT IN ALL HANDS, NOT NECESSARILY TO PIECE OUT THIS DOCUMENT, BUT TO KIND OF GET EVERYONE'S IDEAS OF WHAT THEY THINK NEED.
WE NEED TO DO, HOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST ACTION OF THAT WOULD BE PUTTING A LIST TOGETHER OF WHO SHOULD BE SHOWING UP TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, ALSO, WE COULD PROBABLY REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE, UH, MESA, ARIZONA, UH, CITY OFFICIALS WHO INCORPORATED THIS, WHO HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORKINGS OF WHAT, WHAT THEY DID.
BECAUSE PART OF WHAT I DID, THE RESEARCH CAME FROM MESA AND THEN LOOKING AT THE OTHER CITIES, BUT MESA SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT REALLY KEYED IN ON HOW TO DO THIS.
I MEAN, HEARING FROM, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS AND, AND THE, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE ISD AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST KEEPS SPARKING IDEAS OF, OH YEAH, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON SHOWS UP OR THIS GROUP SHOWS UP AND ON AND ON AND ON AND YEAH.
I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50 PEOPLE AT A WORK SESSION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD THING.
YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S GET EVERYBODY'S IDEAS AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE UTILITY SAYS, YEAH, WE GOT NOTHING
START IT WITH WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
LIKE WHAT ARE THE DIB COMMISSION DOING, WHAT THE PARKS DOING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE PART OF IT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FIRST WE INVITE EVERYONE TO THE TABLE, RIGHT? I, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS GET EVERYONE TO THE SAME TABLE AND THEN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT ROLES, PROJECTS, UH, PROCESSES, ALL OF THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I THINK DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR FOCUS IS, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A PROCESS.
WE COULD BE LOOKING AT EDUCATION, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S ALL INCORPORATED.
AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE SOME INITIAL UNDERSTANDING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SUPPORT FROM FROM COUNCIL.
SO, UH, THIS IS DISCUSSION ONLY, SO THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS.
BUT, UH, I WOULD SAY BE ADVISED, UH, P AND Z ESPECIALLY, UH, WE MAY BE SEEING DISCUSSION FOR PLANNING FOR WORK SESSION AND SO FORTH IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
I, I HOPE, I HOPE THAT WOULD BE NICE.
AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO MAY BE LISTENING OR MAY BE IN THE GALLERY, LET'S MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.
I JUST WANNA THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
UH, I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY SUBJECT AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE WITH IT EVERY DAY.
UM, I SAID MY CHILD TURNED 30 AND HE HAD A BREAKDOWN 'CAUSE HE TURNED 30 YEARS OLD AND I WAS NOT AT MY LAST P AND Z MEETING 'CAUSE WE HAD TO GO TO THE COAST SWITCH.
WE HAD TO TWIST MY ARM TO GO TO THE OCEAN.
BUT WE WERE TRYING TO GET HIM RECENTERED AND IT WAS, HE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET HIM OUT AND TRYING TO GET HIM FOCUSED ON WHERE LIFE IS AND WHAT LIFE IS HAPPENING.
AND THAT TURNING 30 IS OKAY, JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT WHERE YOU THINK YOU WANT TO BE.
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THAT HANDLE THIS OR DEAL WITH THIS.AND WE REALLY WILL SEE IT COME ABOUT WHEN WE START TALKING AND THE COMMUNITY HAS INPUT.
AND I REALLY JUST WANNA THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
AND PLEASE TALK TO YOUR, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR FAMILY, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEIR INPUT.
AND IT'S 'CAUSE WE'RE A COMMUNITY IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S STAFF SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO, TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND, AND TO MAKE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE HAPPEN TO COME ABOUT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX ONE? NOPE.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO SEVEN ONE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR REPORT.
JUST TWO THINGS THAT I CAN THINK OF.
ONE, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED, UH, EDITS, AMENDMENTS AND REVISIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE UDC.
SO I HOPE YOU'VE LEAFED THROUGH IT.
MADE SOME NOTES, PREFERABLY ELECTRONIC NOTES THAT YOU CAN SEND TO US SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THEM INTO A DOCUMENT.
BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, THAT'S ALSO FINE.
'CAUSE I REALLY THINK IT'S JUST A TIME, UM, IT, IT'S JUST A CHECK IN.
IT'S JUST A MIDPOINT AND YOU SAY WHAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED AND YOU HEAR WHAT OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED AND YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR SIMILARITIES AND THE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENCES.
IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, IF YOU CAN OFFER ANY HELP, IT'S JUST THAT, JUST AN OPEN DIALOGUE BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OF THIS IS GONNA COME FROM THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN IT.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT IS NOT SOLITARY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND, AND TALK ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO THROUGH IT.
UM, SO THAT'S A WEEK FROM THIS EVENING UPSTAIRS IN THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, WHERE THEY USUALLY HAVE THE COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS.
IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER VENUE, BIG TABLE, LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AV OPPORTUNITIES UP THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR COMMISSIONER SHEARD, UH, FOR HER SERVICE.
JUNE IS THE, UH, END OF HER TERM.
I GUESS JULY ONE BEGINS A NEW, UH, TERM FOR A PERSON.
BUT, UM, I'VE WORKED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR OVER TWO DECADES AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH A A A SACRIFICE AND AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SERVE AND, AND TO VOLUNTEER.
AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, LO LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATE.
IT'S OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP.
AND, UM, TO PUT YOURSELF IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION, TO PUT YOURSELF IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION LIKE THAT IS NOT EASY.
SO BIG TIME COMPROMISE, UH, YOU MISS OUT ON SOME THINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THIS.
UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO EVEN PUT OUT A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR OWN MONEY AND YOUR OWN EFFORT.
UM, BUT IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FOLKS THAT YOU LIVE WITH AND THE FOLKS THAT YOU LIVE FOR.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE STATED, UM, ENOUGH.
SO APPRECIATE HER FOR BEING HERE AND HER EFFORTS.
AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOMEBODY IN THAT CHAIR WHO CAN DO AS MUCH FOR US AS SHE HAS.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE STATED.
I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO LOSE THAT.
AND, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
WELL, YOU STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT.
I WAS GOING TO, UH,
I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA FIND, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET, UH, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE TO REPLACE HER? OH MY GOD.
I DON'T THINK THE S IS BIG ENOUGH.
BIG SHOES TO FILL AND WELL, IT HELPED HAVING WORKED IN, UM, FOR A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY FOR 20 YEARS AND IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I MEAN, I'M, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS IN I THINK EVERY MEETING YOU WOULD BRING UP SOMETHING THAT I COMPLETELY MISSED AND IT'S JUST LIKE, THERE WE GO.
I'LL STOP BY AND BUG Y'ALL ONCE IN A WHILE.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE? UM, TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING COMING UP JUNE 9TH OR YES.
UM, JUST CONCERNED, I'M, I'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ OVER THE NEW UDC OR SINCE.
SO THE UDC AS WE RECEIVED IT, I BELIEVE WAS SEVEN PARTS.
SINCE I HAVE MY COMPUTER, I CAN TAKE A LOOK.
I DIDN'T BRING MINE WITH ME, BUT YEAH,
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YEAH.SO WE HAD, UH, THE UPDATED THROUGH MARCH 20, 24 AND THEN 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 CHAPTERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE UDC SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S SEVEN PIECES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MESH THAT I'M TRYING TO MESH TOGETHER.
IT STARTED OVER IN FEBRUARY, THEN REALIZED I'M NOT READING THE CORRECT UDC, THEN I STOPPED AND THOUGHT, WELL, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME REVIEW.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S BEING FLOWN AT US AND WE'VE NOT HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT.
AND, AND I BELIEVE IF, IF I, I'M, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THAT JUNE 7TH IS CHECKING IN, SEEING WHERE WE'RE AT.
JUNE 9TH IS CHECKING IN, SEEING WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THEN KIND OF MAPPING OUT ACTION FOR HOW DO WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A PRODUCT TO PRESENT BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES, BUT I, I STARTED HERE IN JANUARY AND KNOW, HAD THIS PROJECT THRUST UPON ME AND, AND IN GOING THROUGH OUR SHAREPOINT SHARED FILES, WHATEVER, UM, THERE ARE COUNTLESS VERSIONS AND EDITS OF THE UDC IN OUR COMPUTER HIERARCHY.
SOME OF THEM ARE CHAPTERS I CAN'T PUT TOGETHER NECESSARILY WHO HAS MADE CERTAIN EDITS WHEN I OPEN THE DOCUMENTS.
BUT I CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE STRIKE THROUGH AND UNDERLINED IN SOME, BUT NOT ALL.
I HAVE FOUND SOME INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T TRACK THEIR CHANGES.
THEY SIMPLY JUST MADE CHANGES
AND SO WHEN YOU COMPARE IT AGAINST WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE, I CALL IT THE GOSPEL, IS THE ONE THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WORK FROM BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WE PROJECT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT STAFF WILL USE AS WELL.
AND I'VE GONE THROUGH AND READ, YOU KNOW, COMPARISONS BETWEEN SAVED VERSIONS THAT WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, FORWARD FACING.
AND I'VE FOUND, OH, THIS IS DIFFERENT.
SO I HAD QUITE A BIT OF DIFFICULTY IN TRYING TO PROVIDE TO YOU THE SUMMATION OF ALL THE EDITS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL SOMETIME IN 2024 OKAY.
IS WHEN THIS PROCESS WAS, WAS BEGUN MM-HMM
UM, SO IN SPEAKING WITH OUR ATTORNEY, OUR LEGAL, I SAID, WHAT DO I DO?
IT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE A REPEAL AND REPLACE OKAY.
BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH IT BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY UNRECOGNIZABLE FROM WHAT WE STARTED WITH TO WHAT WE END WITH.
SO AT THAT POINT, IT'S JUST REPEAL EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE AND REPLACE IT WITH THE, THE NEW ONE.
AND TO THAT END, IT WILL BE INCUMBENT UPON STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YET, BUT I I KNOW WHAT NOT THE HOW THE WHAT WILL BE AN INCUMBENT UPON STAFF TO TAKE THE INPUT OF EVERYBODY WHO'S MADE INPUT AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT WILL GO FORWARD TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY LATER THIS SUMMER.
SO I'M NOT NOT PUSHING YOU HOWARD, I'M JUST OLD MILITARY.
I DO NOT LIKE TO SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT I SIGNED OFF ON.
WHAT AND READS BEFORE I SIGN OFF ON OH, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.
SO IT, WHAT I'M HEARING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DOCUMENT WE'RE WORKING ON TO REVISE TO OBJECT.
WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT IS, UM, APPROVED AS OF MARCH, 2024.
THE LATEST REVISION THAT'S FORWARD FACING TO THE PUBLIC IS, IS AS OF MARCH, 2024.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK, HOW DID, I'M APOLOGIZE.
HOW DID WE DISSEMINATE THAT? DID, WAS THAT AN ATTACHMENT IN A PACKET BACK IN MAYBE MARCH OR APRIL THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS? OR DID I SEND IT OUT TO PEOPLE AS A LINK? APRIL 12TH YOU SENT THAT OUT.
THAT'S WHEN WE ALSO RECEIVED THE UH, THE, THEY WERE A SERIES OF WHAT WERE THEY WERE, WERE THEY PDFS OR, OR WORD.
SO WAS THAT AN EMAIL THAT YOU ALL WOULD'VE RECEIVED FROM MAYBE ANGEL OR DID IT COME TO YOU FROM CIVIC PLUS? UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS AN EMAIL, YES.
SO LOOK BACK SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, EARLY FIRST TWO WEEKS OF APRIL OR AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY THAT HAD IT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW BIG IT WAS.
I MEAN, THAT HAD TO HAVE BEEN A HUGE EMAIL, VERY LARGE FILE.
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LOOKING 11,000 KILOBYTES JUST FOR THAT.SO IF, IF YOU FIND, START LOOKING BY LARGEST DOCUMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE YOU START FROM.
AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'LL BE WORKING FROM THE SAME THING THAT THE OTHER SIX ARE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SAME TIME, CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE PRINTED.
THE NEW YORK CITY WHITE PAGES RIGHT THERE.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE LAST MEETING? I WAS NOT HERE LAST TIME.
THE LAST, UH, I DON'T THINK SO.
AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE REWRITES GO, MY INTENT, UH, AND I LET HOWARD KNOW THIS, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, MY INTENT IS TO COMPLETE THE MERGING OF ALL OF THE UDC SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY BROKE IT INTO CHAPTERS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT WHAT, SIX FILES FROM THEM? SIX PDF FILES.
MY INTENT IS TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE.
I AM APPROXIMATELY TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DONE.
UH, MY INTENT IS TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE BY NEXT WEEK AND THEN HOPEFULLY AT THAT POINT I CAN HAND IT OFF.
AND IF YOU GUYS ARE DOING YOUR OWN EDITS, YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE AND CONTRAST FROM A SINGLE DOCUMENT, NOT SEVEN DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.
SEE I WOULD ALSO ADD RICK, THAT GOOGLE, GOOGLE DOCS HELPS DO A LOT TRACKING VERY METICULOUSLY AND WILL SHOW WHO'S MADE WHAT CHANGES AND SO ON.
JUST IN IT'S, IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL JUST TO HELP.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD DO IT AS A GOOGLE DOC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, OLD SCHOOL, MILITARY, I'M SIGNING MY NAME TO IT.
THAT I FOUND AND THAT I'VE INCORPORATED.
AND ANYBODY CAN GO AND DO THEIR OWN CHANGES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BASE, HERE IT IS.
AND THAT'S JUST HOW I OPERATE.
YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT'S NOT A, A MYSTERY AS TO IS THIS A DELETION OR NOT.
IT'S RED, IT'S GOT A LINE THROUGH IT, IT'S A DELETION.
MY MY INTENT IS TO HAVE THAT ALL TO YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK AVAILABLE FOR YOUR CONSUMPTION.
AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A BIG MONSTER.
I JUST APPRECIATE THE CLARITY.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE HAVING TO SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING WHAT WE WERE NOT, NOT SIGNING OFF YET.
UH, CIPI THOUGHT THERE WAS A WORK SESSION WITH COUNSEL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SCHEDULED OR DID THAT STOP? SURE.
I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT YET.
BECAUSE WE HAD A INTERVIEW OR WE HAD A EMAIL SENT OUT BY KATE, BUT NOTHING CAME FROM THAT.
I MEAN, IF IF KATE EMAILED YOU DIRECTLY, THEN I WOULD, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO ASK HER.
I I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE DETAILS ON IT YET.
I KNOW THERE WERE, WERE SOME DATES THEY WERE CHECKING AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE SETTLED ON ONE OR NOT YET.
SHE, SHE WAS ASKING FOR DATES.
AND SHE WAS LIKE, WE'LL GET IT TO YOU FRIDAY.
AND, AND NOTHING HAPPENED TWO FRIDAYS AGO.
SO ANYTHING FURTHER? I THINK WE ARE GOOD.
AND WE THAT WE WILL ADJOURN AT 8:29 PM COOL.